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Former U.S. Interior Secretary Sally Jewell says the Trump White House is headed in the wrong direction. She joins host Joni Balter for a discussion of the administration's management of public lands, its push to open both coasts to oil exploration, cuts to clean energy and increased entrance fees to some of America's national parks - including Mount Rainier and Olympic national parks. Then, the region's top cops - Seattle's Interim Police Chief Carmen Best and King County Sheriff Mitzi Johanknecht - both new to their posts, weigh in on their priorities, police reform, de-escalation tactics, the youth detention debate, what it's like to work in a male-dominated field and more.