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-- GOOD MORNING. THE. SEPTEMBER 

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25th, 2026 SELECT BUDGET 

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COMMITTEE MEETING WILL COME TO 

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ORDER. IT IS 9:30 A.M.. I'M DAN

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STRAUSS, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

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WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE 

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ROLL? COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

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-- PRESENT COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA 

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-- PRESENT. 

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-- COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 

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COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. COUNCIL 

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PRESIDENT. HOLLINGSWORTH. 

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COUNCIL CHAMBER. COUNCILMEMBER 

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JUAREZ. HERE. COUNCILMEMBER 

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KETTLE. HERE. COUNCILMEMBER LIN 

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HERE. CHAIR STRAUSS SEVEN. 

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PRESENT. 

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-- THANK YOU. THOSE NOT PRESENT 

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ARE EXCUSED UNTIL THEY ARRIVE. 

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WE'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT INTO. 

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WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER 

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HERE NOW. WE'RE GOING TO GET 

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RIGHT INTO PRESENTATIONS. I 

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SHOULD FOLLOW THE ROBERT'S 

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RULES OF ORDER. SO WE WILL HAVE 

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THREE BUDGET BRIEFINGS TODAY ON 

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THE AGENDA. SEATTLE POLICE 

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DEPARTMENT. COMMUNITY ASSISTED 

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RESPONSE AND ENGAGEMENT 

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DEPARTMENT. SEATTLE FIRE 

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DEPARTMENT. I'LL CALL FOR A 

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BREAK. THIS AFTERNOON BETWEEN 

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THE CARE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE

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DEPARTMENT FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES.

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SO JUST TO BE AWARE, WE'RE GOING

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TO TRY TO ROLL RIGHT THROUGH 

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TODAY. AND SO BEFORE WE BEGIN, 

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IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE 

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AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING 

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NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS 

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ADOPTED. JUST AS PEOPLE GET 

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SETTLED. I'LL GIVE A COUPLE 

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POINTS, WHICH IS THAT WE WILL 

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ENDEAVOR TO TAKE 30 TO 1 HOUR 

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BREAKS FOR THE DAYS THAT WE ARE 

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ONLY TAKING 30 MINUTE BREAKS. IF

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YOU NEED TO STEP OFF THE DAIS 

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FOR A MOMENT, YOU CAN SEE AS 

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WE'RE WRAPPING UP AN ITEM, I'LL

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BE CALLING EASE BETWEEN EACH 

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ITEMS. BUT THAT EASE IS REALLY 

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ONLY GOING TO BE FOR 30s 45 

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SECONDS, HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES 

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THE NEXT DEPARTMENT TO PULL UP 

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THEIR PRESENTATIONS. SO IF YOU 

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WANT TO LEAVE JUST BEFORE THAT, 

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WE JUST NEED TO KEEP FIVE 

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COUNCILMEMBERS ON THE DAIS 

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THAT'S THE HOUSEKEEPING FOR 

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THIS MORNING WITH THAT CLERK. 

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WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE FIRST 

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ITEM INTO THE RECORD? AS PER 

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USUAL, WE WILL HAVE THE 

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DEPARTMENT ROLL THROUGH THE 

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A NATURAL STOPPING POINT. BUT 

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WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET GET 

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THROUGH THE SLIDES. AND THEN 

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COLLEAGUES, YOU CAN ASK 

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QUESTIONS FOR AS MUCH TIME AS 

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YOU WOULD LIKE. I'M TIME AND 

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MYSELF, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT

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FOR YOU TO GET YOUR QUESTIONS ON

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THE RECORD. THANK YOU. CLERK. 

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-- AGENDA ITEM ONE SEATTLE 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR BRIEFING 

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AND DISCUSSION. 

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-- THANK YOU. WITH THAT, CHIEF 

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SALES. MR. ETTER, DIRECTOR 

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PANUCCI. DIRECTOR. WHITSON. WE 

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HAVE COUNCILMEMBER SAKA WITH US.

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PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND 

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TAKE IT AWAY. GOOD MORNING. 

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-- ANDRE SAYLES INTERIM CHIEF OF

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POLICE. 

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-- INTERIM BUDGET DIRECTOR FOR 

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THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 

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-- ALY PENNUCCI CITY BUDGET 

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DIRECTOR. 

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-- WHITSON COUNCIL CENTRAL 

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STAFF. DIRECTOR 

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-- ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU, 

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EVERYONE, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY 

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THIS MORNING TO GO OVER OUR 

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PROPOSED 2027 2028 SEATTLE 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. JUST 

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WANTED TO FIRST START OFF BY 

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READING OUR SEATTLE POLICE 

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DEPARTMENT. OUR MISSION. THE 

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MISSION OF THE SEATTLE POLICE 

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DEPARTMENT IS TO PREVENT CRIME, 

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QUALITY PUBLIC SAFETY BY 

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DELIVERING RESPECTFUL, 

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POLICE SERVICE. AS YOU CAN SEE, 

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SOME OF OUR PILLARS IS CRIME 

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PREVENTION, COMMUNITY 

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RECRUITMENT OUR BEST PRACTICES 

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IN POLICING. WE WOULD LIKE TO 

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USE BEST PRACTICES THAT INCLUDES

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OFFICER SAFETY GUIDELINES AND 

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TO PROVIDE PROGRESSIVE AND 

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RESPONSIVE POLICE SERVICE TO 

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CRIME VICTIMS, WITNESSES AND ALL

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MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WE ALSO

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BELIEVE IN ETHICS AND INTEGRITY.

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FOSTER AND ORGANIZATIONAL 

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CULTURE WHERE FUNDAMENTAL VALUES

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ARE INTEGRITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, 

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TO SERVICE. THIS IS ALSO OUR 

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POLICY. WE ALSO LIKE TO 

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IDENTIFY, PRIORITIZE AND SOLVE 

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PROBLEM SOLVING APPROACHES AND 

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DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT. OUR 

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STRUCTURE AND THE ORGANIZATION 

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AND FIELD A WELL TRAINED, SWORN 

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AND NON-SWORN WORKFORCE THAT 

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STRATEGICALLY AND EFFECTIVELY. 

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NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DAN 

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EDER 

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-- THANK YOU, CHIEF, AND THANK 

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YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS, FOR THE 

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OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE SPD 

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PROPOSED BUDGET. THIS FIRST 

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SLIDE PROVIDES THE HIGHEST LEVEL

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OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET 

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FOR 27 AND 28. FOR MOST OF THESE

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2027. JUST BECAUSE IT'S IT'S AN

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ALREADY A LOT OF INFORMATION 

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PROPOSAL. SPD 2027 PROPOSED 

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BUDGET IS ABOUT $557 MILLION IN 

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TOTAL. THAT'S $550 MILLION OF 

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GENERAL FUND AND NEARLY $7 

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MILLION OF OTHER FUNDS THERE'S 

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OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE MORE 

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BUT THE KEY TAKEAWAYS I WANT TO 

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THAT THE THE 2027 PROPOSED 

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BUDGET INCLUDES ABOUT $12.5 

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FUND GROWS BY A TOTAL OF ABOUT 

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$66 MILLION, THE LARGEST REASON 

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INCREASED LABOR COSTS. FROM THE 

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THIS SLIDE BREAKS DOWN SPD'S 

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2027 PROPOSED BUDGET. A TOTAL OF

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$557 MILLION INTO FOUR 

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CATEGORIES OF SPENDING 

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CHARGES AND A BROAD CATEGORY OF 

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OTHER. 80% OF SPD'S ANNUAL 

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BUDGET IS FOR STAFFING. THAT'S 

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THE. THE BLUE. THE LARGEST WEDGE

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HERE IN BLUE FOR PERSONNEL AND 

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IN ORANGE OVERTIME. TOGETHER, 

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THAT TOTALS $447 MILLION OUT OF 

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THE $557 MILLION BUDGET 

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PROPOSAL. AN ADDITIONAL 15% IS 

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SHOWN IN GREEN. THOSE ARE 

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CENTRALLY ALLOCATED AND 

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TO SPD FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS, 

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RENT AND OTHER CENTRAL COSTS. IT

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CHARGES US FOR BASIC COMPUTER 

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INFRASTRUCTURE AND AND AND 

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SUPPORT. WE GET COSTS ALLOCATED 

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TO US FROM THE CENTRAL HR 

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DEPARTMENT AND OTHER SIMILAR 

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COSTS. AS A RESULT, 95% OR $530 

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MILLION OF SPD'S $557 MILLION 

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BUDGET IS FOR A COMBINATION OF 

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CENTRALLY ALLOCATED COSTS. THAT 

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LEAVES $26 MILLION, OR ABOUT 5%,

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FOR OTHER COSTS MOST OF WHICH 

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ARE ALSO NON-DISCRETIONARY. HERE

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 

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BREAKOUT. ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN 

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SEE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THE 

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LARGEST SHARE OF PROFESSIONAL 

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SERVICES IS ABOUT $7 MILLION FOR

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THE CITY'S COSTS FOR AUTOMATED 

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TO THE VENDOR WHO MANAGES THAT 

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PROGRAM FOR THE CITY. THERE ARE 

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ALSO ANOTHER CATEGORY IS 

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THEN ALSO NECESSARY EQUIPMENT 

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AND SUPPLIES FOR POLICE 

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BUDGET ABOUT $770,000 FOR TRAVEL

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AND TRAINING, AND A LITTLE OVER 

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$100,000 FOR CAPITAL. OKAY, I 

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MENTIONED THAT STAFFING IS THE 

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LARGEST SHARE OF OUR ANNUAL 

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BUDGET. THAT INCLUDES OVERTIME 

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AND AND PERSONNEL COSTS. I'M 

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GOING TO THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES

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WILL ADDRESS THOSE TWO 

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CATEGORIES. SO THIS SLIDE ON 

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OVERTIME SHOWS THE BUDGET FOR 

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HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON OVERTIME IN

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BLUE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE 

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SCREEN. IN. ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK 

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AT THAT IS HOW MANY HOURS OF 

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OVERTIME DO THOSE DOLLARS 

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PURCHASE? THAT'S SHOWN ON THE 

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RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN 

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IN RED. IN BRIEF, THE I'M SORRY,

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IN EACH OF THE SLIDES, THERE ARE

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THREE DATA POINTS. THERE'S THE 

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2025 ACTUALS ON THE LEFT OF EACH

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SLIDE. THE 2026 ADOPTED LEVELS 

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IN THE MIDDLE AND ON THE RIGHT 

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SIDE IS THE 2027 PROPOSED 

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BUDGET. SO WHAT I WANT TO LEAVE 

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YOU WITH IS THAT THE COST OF 

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OVERTIME DOLLARS HAS INCREASED 

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FROM 2026 ADOPTED BUDGET TO THE 

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2027 PROPOSED BUDGET. THIS IS 

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DUE TO HIGHER LABOR COSTS, BUT 

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THE AMOUNT OF FUNDED OVERTIME 

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SHOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE 

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REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM 2026. 

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ADOPTED BUDGET TO THE 2027 

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PROPOSED BUDGET. YOU'LL SEE 

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THAT'S AT 470 300 ZERO HOURS IN

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BOTH 26 AND THE PROPOSED 27. 

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THIS IS ANOTHER LOOK AT 

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OVERTIME, AND IT ANSWERS THE 

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QUESTION WHAT WHAT DO WE USE 

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OVERTIME FOR 70 I'M SORRY. AND 

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THIS THIS IS TAKING A LOOK AT 

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THE YEAR TO DATE SPENDING FOR 

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2026. WE THINK THIS IS A PRETTY 

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GOOD APPROXIMATION OF WHAT ALL 

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OF 2026 CATEGORIES WILL LOOK 

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LIKE ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS. AND 

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IT ALSO IS REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW

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WE PLAN TO SPEND THE MONEY IN 27

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AND 28. AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, 

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ABOUT 70% OF OVERTIME IS SPENT 

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FOR THE THREE CATEGORIES IN 

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BLUE, RED, AND GREEN. I'LL GO 

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THROUGH THEM ONE AT A TIME. THE 

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SINGLE LARGEST USE OF OVERTIME 

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IS SPECIAL EVENTS. THIS IS SHOWN

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IN BLUE SPD IS REIMBURSED EITHER

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DIRECTLY OR THROUGH PAYMENTS TO 

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THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND FOR 

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SOME OF THE OVERTIME WORK THAT 

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IT DOES. THE SECOND LARGEST USE 

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OF OVERTIME IS AUGMENTATION. 

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THAT'S SHOWN IN RED IN THE PIE 

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CHART. AUGMENTATION IS WHAT WE 

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CALL ASSIGNING OVERTIME HOURS TO

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MEET MINIMUM STAFFING 

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REQUIREMENTS. AS YOU KNOW, 

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DEPLOYING DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS, 

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WHICH IS OUR THE NUMBER OF FULLY

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TRAINED OFFICERS, LESS THOSE WHO

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ARE NOT ABLE TO WORK DUE TO LONG

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TERM DISABILITY OR ILLNESS, IS A

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KEY MEASURE FOR DETERMINING 

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WHETHER SPD CAN MEET MINIMUM 

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STAFFING ON REGULAR TIME. SPD 

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DEPLOYABLE OFFICER COUNT IS 

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ABOUT 25% LOWER IN 2026 THAN IT 

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WAS IN 2018. MEETING MINIMUM 

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STAFFING IS NECESSARY FOR A 

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NUMBER OF PURPOSES, NOT THE 

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LEAST OF WHICH IS ADDRESSING 

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OFFICER SAFETY NEEDS. IT'S ALSO

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AN EXPLICIT COMMITMENT IN THE 

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LABOR CONTRACTS, AND IT HELPS 

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SPD MEET GOALS FOR QUICK 

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RESPONSE TIMES ON PRIORITY NINE,

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ONE ONE CALLS THE LAST CATEGORY 

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IN THIS 70% CHUNK OF THE PIE 

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CHART IS IN GREEN. THAT'S 

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TRAINING, AND IT COVERS TRAINING

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FOR NEW RECRUITS. THE COST OF 

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FIELD TRAINING OFFICER TRAINERS.

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IT COVERS MANDATORY TRAINING FOR

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OFFICER CERTIFICATION, CROWD 

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CONTROL AND OTHER TYPES OF 

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TRAINING CONSISTENT WITH 

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COMMITMENTS FROM THE CONSENT 

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DECREE AND BEST PRACTICES. I 

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NOTE THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN

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TRAVEL AND TRAINING THAT I 

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MENTIONED IN THE EARLIER SLIDE, 

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WHICH WAS ABOUT CONFERENCES. 

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THIS IS NOT ABOUT CONFERENCES. 

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THAT LEAVES 30% IN DARK PURPLE 

347
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FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT COVERS

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A WIDE RANGE OF THINGS, 

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INCLUDING SWAT RESPONSES, 

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NARCOTICS, LEGAL INVESTIGATIONS 

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AND ARRESTS, COURT TIME AND 

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EMPHASIS PATROLS. OKAY. EXCUSE 

353
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ME. THANK YOU AS A REMINDER, THE

354
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SINGLE LARGEST CATEGORY OF SPD 

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SPENDING IS PERSONNEL AND 

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OFFICERS. THE COST OF HIRING AND

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AND HAVING OFFICERS IS BY FAR 

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THE BIGGEST SHARE OF OUR 

359
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PERSONNEL COSTS. THIS SLIDE IS 

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LOOKING AT OFFICER HIRING IN 

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2027 AND 2028. SPD USES A 

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STAFFING PLAN TO HELP OUR LARGE,

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COMPLEX ORGANIZATION ESTABLISH 

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GOALS FOR THE PACE OF HIRING. 

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THE DATA ON THIS CHART COMES 

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FROM THE STAFFING PLAN. THE 

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STAFFING PLAN MAPS OUT MONTHLY 

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HIRING, TRAINING AND ANTICIPATED

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SEPARATIONS BASED ON THE FUNDING

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THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE 

371
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PROPOSED BUDGET. I JUST WANT TO 

372
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NOTE MAYBE THIS HAS BEEN NOTED 

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IN PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THIS 

374
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PRESENTATION PAST YEARS, BUT 

375
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YOUR CENTRAL STAFF ANALYST, GREG

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DOSS, IS IS IN LARGE PART 

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RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STAFFING 

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MODEL CREATION AND FINE TUNING. 

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I THINK THAT DATES BACK TO 

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APPROXIMATELY 2012. WE STILL USE

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IT. IT'S STILL VERY HELPFUL. IN

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OUR INTERNAL PLANNING AND FOR 

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COMMUNICATION SUCH AS THIS 

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PRESENTATION. SO THE PREDICTED 

385
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NUMBERS ARE NOT EXACTLY GOING TO

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MATCH WHAT ACTUAL HIRING LOOKS 

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LIKE. IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A

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PERFECT CRYSTAL BALL. WE HAVE 

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SOME CONTROL, SOME MORE CONTROL 

390
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OVER SOME THINGS THAN OTHERS. 

391
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FOR INSTANCE, HIRING AND 

392
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TRAINING IS UP TO US. AND WE 

393
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MAKE PREDICTIONS ABOUT 

394
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SEPARATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO 

395
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HAPPEN, BUT WE HAVE LESS CONTROL

396
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OVER THAT. WE FINE TUNE THE 

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STAFFING PLAN THROUGHOUT THE 

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YEAR AS WE GET MORE DATA MONTH 

399
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BY MONTH. AND, AND MAKE 

400
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ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY. SO I'M

401
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SORRY, THAT WAS A LOT OF DRUM 

402
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ROLL TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S ON THIS 

403
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SLIDE. THE LIGHT BLUE LINE THAT 

404
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IS RISING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT 

405
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SHOWS OUR PLAN FOR MONTHLY 

406
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FILLED FTES THAT'S ALL 

407
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RECRUITS, ALL TRAINEES AND ALL 

408
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FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS. IT'S 

409
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AFTER ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT NEW 

410
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HIRES. THE TIME IT TAKES TO 

411
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COMPLETE VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF 

412
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TRAINING AND A, A AN 

413
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APPROXIMATION OF WHAT WHAT 

414
00:17:03,455 --> 00:17:04,990
SEPARATIONS WE WILL SEE. AND AS 

415
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YOU GET FARTHER AND FARTHER OUT 

416
00:17:06,825 --> 00:17:10,529
TO THE RIGHT INTO 2028, I WOULD 

417
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SAY THAT THE DATA IS, YOU KNOW, 

418
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A, A, A, A GUIDELINE AND A 

419
00:17:15,534 --> 00:17:18,003
PROJECTION. BUT THEY'LL 

420
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CERTAINLY BE CHANGES. THE BOTTOM

421
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LINE IS THAT SPD IS FUNDED TO 

422
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SUPPORT 1250 FTES IN BOTH 2027 

423
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AND 2028. THE HIRING MODEL 

424
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ANTICIPATES THAT AVERAGE FILLED 

425
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FTES THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE 

426
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DASHED RED LINE FOR 2027 AND IN 

427
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THE DASHED BLACK LINE IN 2028 

428
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ARE. I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE 

429
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SAID THE NUMBERS. IT'S 1229 

430
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EFTS IN 2027, SHOWN IN THE 

431
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DASHED RED LINE, AND THEN IT 

432
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RISES TO 1250 IN 2028. THE 

433
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DASHED BLACK LINE I IMAGINE 

434
00:18:04,349 --> 00:18:05,617
THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS ON A 

435
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NUMBER OF THESE SLIDES. I 

436
00:18:06,952 --> 00:18:08,120
UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING TO BE 

437
00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:11,123
WAITING UNTIL THE END. 

438
00:18:11,123 --> 00:18:13,058
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION. I'M 

439
00:18:13,058 --> 00:18:14,793
SORRY. WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO THE

440
00:18:14,793 --> 00:18:19,431
KEY CHANGES IN THE 2027 PROPOSED

441
00:18:19,431 --> 00:18:22,334
BUDGET FOR SPD. THE FIRST 

442
00:18:22,334 --> 00:18:24,837
CATEGORY IS RECRUITMENT. 

443
00:18:24,837 --> 00:18:25,437
RETENTION CHANGES. THESE FALL 

444
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INTO TWO BUCKETS MEDIA, 

445
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MARKETING AND HIRING INCENTIVES.

446
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I'LL TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME. 

447
00:18:32,711 --> 00:18:33,245
THE PROPOSED BUDGET WILL 

448
00:18:33,245 --> 00:18:37,583
ELIMINATE $1.95 MILLION ANNUALLY

449
00:18:37,583 --> 00:18:40,652
FOR SPD'S MEDIA MARKETING 

450
00:18:40,652 --> 00:18:42,287
CONSULTANT. THIS CONTRACT 

451
00:18:42,287 --> 00:18:44,690
ALLOWED SPD TO CREATE RECRUITING

452
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VIDEOS AND PROMOTE THEM, WHERE 

453
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,962
POTENTIAL APPLICANTS WOULD WOULD

454
00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:52,831
SEE THEM. SPD'S OVERALL 

455
00:18:52,831 --> 00:18:53,432
MARKETING BUDGET CONTINUES TO 

456
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INCLUDE MULTIPLE INITIATIVES, 

457
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EVEN WITHOUT THE. THE MEDIA 

458
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MARKETING BUDGET. MEDIA 

459
00:19:00,005 --> 00:19:03,041
MARKETING CONTRACT. I SHOULD SAY

460
00:19:03,041 --> 00:19:05,511
THOSE INCLUDE SOCIAL MEDIA, JOB 

461
00:19:05,511 --> 00:19:07,913
FAIRS, AND PROFESSIONAL 

462
00:19:07,913 --> 00:19:10,082
NETWORKING. TO SPREAD THE WORD 

463
00:19:10,082 --> 00:19:12,918
ABOUT BECOMING AN SPD OFFICER. 

464
00:19:12,918 --> 00:19:13,452
CONTRACTS WITH FIRMS THAT 

465
00:19:13,452 --> 00:19:15,053
STREAMLINE CASE MANAGEMENT AND 

466
00:19:15,053 --> 00:19:18,190
THE PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST AND 

467
00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:21,260
BACKGROUNDING BACKGROUND 

468
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SCREENING PROCESSES AND FIVE 

469
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FTES WHO MANAGE THIS WORK ATTEND

470
00:19:25,531 --> 00:19:26,698
JOB FAIRS AND GENERALLY DO WHAT 

471
00:19:26,698 --> 00:19:34,273
THEY CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT 

472
00:19:34,273 --> 00:19:34,840
ABOUT HIRING OPPORTUNITIES 

473
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WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. THE 

474
00:19:36,441 --> 00:19:36,975
SECOND CATEGORY IS HIRING 

475
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INCENTIVES. HIRING INCENTIVES 

476
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ARE FUNDED IN THE 2026 ADOPTED 

477
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BUDGET AT ABOUT $1.6 MILLION. 

478
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THE 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET REDUCES

479
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THIS AMOUNT BY NEARLY A HALF 

480
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MILLION DOLLARS. AND THE 2028 

481
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PROPOSED BUDGET REMOVES THE 

482
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REMAINING $1.1 MILLION. SPD HAS 

483
00:20:00,265 --> 00:20:02,401
ALREADY STOPPED OFFERING HIRING 

484
00:20:02,401 --> 00:20:04,169
INCENTIVES TO NEW RECRUITS AND 

485
00:20:04,169 --> 00:20:06,338
LATERALS, WHO APPLIED AFTER 

486
00:20:06,338 --> 00:20:08,807
AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, 2026. 

487
00:20:08,807 --> 00:20:12,044
HIRING INCENTIVES HAVE BEEN PAID

488
00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:15,647
IN TWO INSTALLMENTS WHEN WE HIRE

489
00:20:15,647 --> 00:20:18,317
PEOPLE. THE FIRST INSTALLMENT IS

490
00:20:18,317 --> 00:20:21,386
PAID UPON BECOMING AN SPD 

491
00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:22,821
EMPLOYMENT EMPLOYEE, AND THE 

492
00:20:22,821 --> 00:20:24,556
SECOND INSTALLMENT IS PAID ONE 

493
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YEAR LATER. SPD WILL CONTINUE TO

494
00:20:27,693 --> 00:20:29,861
PAY THE SECOND PAYMENTS TO ANY 

495
00:20:29,861 --> 00:20:30,996
INDIVIDUAL WHO QUALIFIED FOR A 

496
00:20:30,996 --> 00:20:34,733
FIRST PAYMENT. BUT AS I SAID, WE

497
00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:36,468
HAVE STOPPED QUALIFYING PEOPLE 

498
00:20:36,468 --> 00:20:38,003
FOR THE FIRST PAYMENT AS OF THE 

499
00:20:38,003 --> 00:20:48,547
END OF AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. THIS

500
00:20:49,581 --> 00:20:51,216
SLIDE COVERS A NUMBER OF 

501
00:20:51,216 --> 00:20:54,152
STAFFING CHANGES AND ALSO IN TWO

502
00:20:54,152 --> 00:20:58,156
CATEGORIES VACANT POSITIONS AND 

503
00:20:58,156 --> 00:21:00,325
REDUCED STAFFING. THE FIRST 

504
00:21:00,325 --> 00:21:02,894
CATEGORY VACANT POSITIONS. THE 

505
00:21:02,894 --> 00:21:05,163
GENERAL FUND DEFICIT CAUSED SPD 

506
00:21:05,163 --> 00:21:08,734
TO REDUCE PLANNED STAFFING BY 

507
00:21:08,734 --> 00:21:10,802
NOT FILLING ABOUT FIVE NEARLY $6

508
00:21:10,802 --> 00:21:13,672
MILLION OF FUNDED POSITIONS, AND

509
00:21:13,672 --> 00:21:16,341
THE PROPOSED BUDGET ELIMINATES 

510
00:21:16,341 --> 00:21:18,110
FUNDING FOR ALL OF THOSE 

511
00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:21,113
POSITIONS. I DO WANT TO MENTION 

512
00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:23,382
1 OR 2 THINGS ABOUT SOME OF 

513
00:21:23,382 --> 00:21:25,751
THESE POSITIONS, AND THEN I'LL 

514
00:21:25,751 --> 00:21:31,023
EXPECT ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND 

515
00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:33,358
DO MY BEST TO ADDRESS THOSE. THE

516
00:21:33,358 --> 00:21:39,831
2027. I'M SORRY, I'M JUST 

517
00:21:39,831 --> 00:21:41,700
GOING TO SKIP AHEAD HERE. SO 

518
00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:43,435
I'LL TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME. 

519
00:21:43,435 --> 00:21:46,004
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. 

520
00:21:46,004 --> 00:21:50,409
THE PROPOSED BUDGET DECREASES 

521
00:21:50,409 --> 00:21:53,145
NINE FUNDED POSITIONS. AND 

522
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:54,946
THAT'S ABOUT $3.1 MILLION FOR 

523
00:21:54,946 --> 00:21:56,782
THE POSITIONS. AND SOME 

524
00:21:56,782 --> 00:21:57,416
ADDITIONAL PROGRAM FUNDING THAT 

525
00:21:57,416 --> 00:22:02,054
WAS ALSO ELIMINATED. THE REAL 

526
00:22:02,054 --> 00:22:04,656
TIME CRIME CENTER, WE WILL MOVE 

527
00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:08,226
FORWARD WITH HIRING AN 

528
00:22:08,226 --> 00:22:10,595
ADDITIONAL SIX FTES THAT WERE 

529
00:22:10,595 --> 00:22:11,630
ORIGINALLY FUNDED IN THE 2026 

530
00:22:11,630 --> 00:22:13,465
ADOPTED BUDGET, BUT HAVE NOT TO 

531
00:22:13,465 --> 00:22:16,968
DATE BEEN FILLED. WE WILL 

532
00:22:16,968 --> 00:22:19,204
ELIMINATE FUNDING FOR THREE 

533
00:22:19,204 --> 00:22:20,839
POSITIONS, BUT THE POSITION 

534
00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:24,910
AUTHORITY REMAINS IN THE REAL 

535
00:22:24,910 --> 00:22:27,045
TIME CRIME CENTER. THIS WOULD 

536
00:22:27,045 --> 00:22:28,613
ALLOW THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER

537
00:22:28,613 --> 00:22:30,782
TO EXPAND TO 24/7. ALL OTHER 

538
00:22:30,782 --> 00:22:32,451
THINGS BEING EQUAL. AND I THINK 

539
00:22:32,451 --> 00:22:33,952
YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A STUDY 

540
00:22:33,952 --> 00:22:35,520
THAT IS ONGOING. I DON'T KNOW IF

541
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,489
IT'S FRAMED AS AN AUDIT OR A 

542
00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:39,524
STUDY, BUT THERE'S SOME WORK 

543
00:22:39,524 --> 00:22:40,959
THAT IS STILL TO BE DONE BEFORE 

544
00:22:40,959 --> 00:22:42,828
A DECISION IS MADE ABOUT WHETHER

545
00:22:42,828 --> 00:22:47,599
AND WHEN TO GO TO 24/7. THE NEXT

546
00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:51,103
CATEGORY IS THE CIVILIAN 

547
00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:51,737
INVESTIGATIVE SUPPORT POSITIONS.

548
00:22:51,737 --> 00:22:57,008
THE PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD REDUCE

549
00:22:57,008 --> 00:23:00,779
FUNDING BY $1.1 MILLION, AND AND

550
00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:04,483
UNFUND SEVEN FTE IN THAT IN THAT

551
00:23:04,483 --> 00:23:11,590
UNIT. WE USE RETIRED LAW 

552
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:13,592
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO ASSIST 

553
00:23:13,592 --> 00:23:17,529
WITH INVESTIGATIONS. WE STILL 

554
00:23:17,529 --> 00:23:19,765
HAVE FUNDING FOR SEVEN SUCH 

555
00:23:19,765 --> 00:23:22,934
FTES, AND ABOUT $1.1 MILLION OF 

556
00:23:22,934 --> 00:23:25,203
FUNDING FOR. FOR THESE 

557
00:23:25,203 --> 00:23:26,204
POSITIONS. SO THAT WILL 

558
00:23:26,204 --> 00:23:29,608
CONTINUE. WE JUST WON'T EXPAND 

559
00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:35,080
TO AN ADDITIONAL 7 IN 2027. HR 

560
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,348
POSITIONS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 

561
00:23:36,348 --> 00:23:39,251
EACH OF THESE ONE AT A TIME. 

562
00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:45,257
THEY'RE THEY ARE A DEI OFFICER 

563
00:23:45,257 --> 00:23:47,592
THAT WAS FUNDED AT $207,000 IN 

564
00:23:47,592 --> 00:23:49,094
THE ADOPT 26 ADOPTED BUDGET. 

565
00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:51,129
THAT FUNDING AND THE POSITION IS

566
00:23:51,129 --> 00:23:54,166
ELIMINATED IN THE. 27 PROPOSED. 

567
00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:58,937
THERE IS ALSO A 30 BY 30 

568
00:23:58,937 --> 00:23:59,571
WORKGROUP SUPPORT POSITION THAT 

569
00:23:59,571 --> 00:24:05,377
WAS ADDED BY COUNCIL, WITH THE 

570
00:24:05,377 --> 00:24:06,711
PROVISO TO FUND THE POSITION. WE

571
00:24:06,711 --> 00:24:08,580
HAVE NOT FILLED EITHER OF THOSE 

572
00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:09,281
POSITIONS AND THEY ARE BOTH 

573
00:24:09,281 --> 00:24:13,685
PROPOSED TO BE ELIMINATED. THE 

574
00:24:13,685 --> 00:24:16,154
CHIEF HAS TASKED SPD'S FULL HR 

575
00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:19,858
TEAM TO ADDRESS HIS PRIORITIES, 

576
00:24:19,858 --> 00:24:21,226
TO HAVE SPD HIRING REFLECT THE 

577
00:24:21,226 --> 00:24:22,461
COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE AND 

578
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:23,795
CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS TOWARD

579
00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:26,164
THE GOAL OF HAVING MORE WOMEN 

580
00:24:26,164 --> 00:24:28,400
SERVE AT ALL LEVELS OF THE 

581
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,136
POLICE FORCE. SOME EXAMPLES FROM

582
00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:33,705
2026 TO DATE, WE HAVE HAD A 30 

583
00:24:33,705 --> 00:24:37,008
BY 30 MARKETING CAMPAIGN 

584
00:24:37,008 --> 00:24:39,144
SPECIFICALLY GEARED TO 

585
00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:40,412
PROSPECTIVE WOMEN POLICE 

586
00:24:40,412 --> 00:24:42,747
OFFICERS THAT WAS THROUGH THE 

587
00:24:42,747 --> 00:24:45,483
MEDIA MARKETING CONTRACT. AND WE

588
00:24:45,483 --> 00:24:47,018
ALSO HAVE BUILT A PROCESS 

589
00:24:47,018 --> 00:24:49,087
INTENDED TO ENSURE THAT SPD 

590
00:24:49,087 --> 00:24:51,189
WOMEN OFFICERS ATTEND TRAINING 

591
00:24:51,189 --> 00:24:54,025
AND CONFERENCES, INCLUDING THE 

592
00:24:54,025 --> 00:24:55,360
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF WOMEN IN

593
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:59,764
LAW ENFORCEMENT THE LAST 

594
00:24:59,764 --> 00:25:01,266
CATEGORY IS IN VACANT POSITIONS,

595
00:25:01,266 --> 00:25:05,103
IS LONG TERM POSITION VACANCIES.

596
00:25:05,103 --> 00:25:08,273
THERE ARE THREE FTES THAT ARE 

597
00:25:08,273 --> 00:25:10,509
FUNDED BUT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR 

598
00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:13,879
OVER A YEAR. THERE ARE ALSO TWO 

599
00:25:13,879 --> 00:25:16,414
FTES THAT WERE UNFUNDED AND 

600
00:25:16,414 --> 00:25:18,216
SUNSETTING, THAT ARE THAT ARE 

601
00:25:18,216 --> 00:25:20,185
INCLUDED HERE, BUT HAVE NO 

602
00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:21,286
FINANCIAL EFFECT BECAUSE THERE 

603
00:25:21,286 --> 00:25:25,323
WAS NO BUDGET FOR THEM. MOVING 

604
00:25:25,323 --> 00:25:30,629
FORWARD. THE SECOND CATEGORY ON 

605
00:25:30,629 --> 00:25:33,031
THIS SLIDE IS STAFFING 

606
00:25:33,031 --> 00:25:36,034
REDUCTIONS. SPD, OF COURSE, 

607
00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:36,968
VALUES ALL OF ITS EMPLOYEES AND 

608
00:25:36,968 --> 00:25:39,504
THE WORK THAT THEY DO. HOWEVER, 

609
00:25:39,504 --> 00:25:41,806
IN LIGHT OF THE VERY CHALLENGING

610
00:25:41,806 --> 00:25:44,376
GENERAL FUND BUDGET DEFICIT, THE

611
00:25:44,376 --> 00:25:46,878
PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDED SOME 

612
00:25:46,878 --> 00:25:48,914
VERY DIFFICULT CHOICES AND IT. 

613
00:25:48,914 --> 00:25:50,949
THE PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD REDUCE

614
00:25:50,949 --> 00:25:52,284
STAFFING BY TWO POSITIONS THAT 

615
00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:57,188
ARE CURRENTLY FILLED. I'M 

616
00:25:57,188 --> 00:25:59,357
SHOWING ON THIS SLIDE THREE 

617
00:25:59,357 --> 00:26:02,460
POSITIONS. THE TOP POSITION IN 

618
00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:04,362
DATA ANALYTICS IS SUBSEQUENT TO 

619
00:26:04,362 --> 00:26:06,131
THIS DECK BEING FINALIZED IS 

620
00:26:06,131 --> 00:26:07,532
ACTUALLY A. NOW A VACANT 

621
00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:09,834
POSITION. SO THERE WOULD BE NO 

622
00:26:09,834 --> 00:26:10,402
LAYOFF IN THAT POSITION. WE 

623
00:26:10,402 --> 00:26:13,271
WOULD JUST LIKE THE VACANT 

624
00:26:13,271 --> 00:26:14,773
POSITIONS UP ABOVE. WE WOULD 

625
00:26:14,773 --> 00:26:15,941
JUST CONTINUE NOT TO BE ABLE TO 

626
00:26:15,941 --> 00:26:19,577
HIRE FOR THAT POSITION. THERE 

627
00:26:19,577 --> 00:26:21,379
ARE TWO POSITIONS THAT WILL LEAD

628
00:26:21,379 --> 00:26:24,149
TO LAYOFFS. ONE IS A 

629
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:26,217
WEYERHAEUSER, ONE POSITION. 

630
00:26:26,217 --> 00:26:32,223
IT'S SHOWN AS RECORDS SUPPORT 

631
00:26:32,223 --> 00:26:34,726
AND IT WOULD SAVE $126,000 IN 

632
00:26:34,726 --> 00:26:37,128
2027. THE OTHER POSITION IS AN 

633
00:26:37,128 --> 00:26:39,631
ADMIN SPECIALIST, ONE IN AUTO 

634
00:26:39,631 --> 00:26:42,867
RECORDS. ANOTHER RECORDS 

635
00:26:42,867 --> 00:26:44,069
POSITION. IN BOTH OF THESE 

636
00:26:44,069 --> 00:26:48,139
CASES, THE WORK WILL BE ABSORBED

637
00:26:48,139 --> 00:26:54,379
BY EXISTING STAFF. THIS SLIDE IS

638
00:26:54,379 --> 00:26:57,115
SHOWING THE PLANNED EXPANSION. 

639
00:26:57,115 --> 00:26:58,550
THE. THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE 

640
00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:01,720
PLANNED PROGRAM. EXPANSION OF 

641
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:07,258
THE AUTOMATED TRAFFIC SAFETY 

642
00:27:07,258 --> 00:27:09,961
CAMERA PROGRAM. WE ARE 

643
00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:11,796
ANTICIPATING INSTALLING SEVEN 

644
00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:13,698
NEW FULL TIME SPEED CAMERAS IN 

645
00:27:13,698 --> 00:27:15,967
2027, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO 

646
00:27:15,967 --> 00:27:18,336
DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF ANTICIPATED

647
00:27:18,336 --> 00:27:20,205
CITATIONS THAT NEED TO BE 

648
00:27:20,205 --> 00:27:23,375
REVIEWED BY STAFF. SO AS A 

649
00:27:23,375 --> 00:27:26,378
RESULT, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD 

650
00:27:26,378 --> 00:27:29,748
BOTH VENDOR COSTS TO PROCESS 

651
00:27:29,748 --> 00:27:34,419
THOSE THOSE CITATIONS AND ADD 

652
00:27:34,419 --> 00:27:36,755
FOUR FULL TIME POSITIONS FOR THE

653
00:27:36,755 --> 00:27:38,189
ADDED WORK, AND THAT BOTH OF 

654
00:27:38,189 --> 00:27:40,759
THOSE CATEGORIES WOULD BE FUNDED

655
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:43,328
BY THE AUTOMATED AUTOMATED 

656
00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:44,562
TRAFFIC SAFETY CAMERA FUND. IT 

657
00:27:44,562 --> 00:27:46,831
WOULD ALSO MAKE SOME TECHNICAL 

658
00:27:46,831 --> 00:27:48,533
CHANGES, SHIFTING COSTS, BOTH 

659
00:27:48,533 --> 00:27:51,202
STAFFING AND THE CAMERA COSTS 

660
00:27:51,202 --> 00:27:54,873
BETWEEN THE ATSC AND THE GENERAL

661
00:27:54,873 --> 00:28:00,712
FUND. AND THEN THE FINAL 

662
00:28:00,712 --> 00:28:01,646
SUBSTANTIVE SLIDE I HAVE TO 

663
00:28:01,646 --> 00:28:04,382
SHARE WITH YOU IS BASELINE WAGE 

664
00:28:04,382 --> 00:28:07,018
ADJUSTMENTS. THIS SLIDE IS 

665
00:28:07,018 --> 00:28:08,753
SHOWING TWO TECHNICAL BASELINE 

666
00:28:08,753 --> 00:28:11,523
ADJUSTMENTS THAT I THOUGHT WERE 

667
00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:13,825
NOTEWORTHY BECAUSE OF THE THE 

668
00:28:13,825 --> 00:28:18,430
MAGNITUDE OF THE COSTS. THE 2027

669
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:18,963
PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES 

670
00:28:18,963 --> 00:28:20,598
INCLUDES A NEARLY $58 MILLION 

671
00:28:20,598 --> 00:28:22,734
BASELINE INCREASE TO PAY FOR 

672
00:28:22,734 --> 00:28:29,674
COSTS IN THE LABOR CONTRACTS, 

673
00:28:29,674 --> 00:28:30,341
SPECIFICALLY, IT'S ABOUT $56.5 

674
00:28:30,341 --> 00:28:32,644
MILLION FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE 

675
00:28:32,644 --> 00:28:34,913
OFFICERS GUILD, OR SPAR, AND THE

676
00:28:34,913 --> 00:28:37,015
SEATTLE POLICE MANAGEMENT 

677
00:28:37,015 --> 00:28:40,852
ASSOCIATION. SPMA. FOR THEIR 

678
00:28:40,852 --> 00:28:44,389
ANNUAL WAGE INCREASE. AND ALSO 

679
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:46,524
FOR THE LANGUAGE AND EDUCATION 

680
00:28:46,524 --> 00:28:49,594
PREMIUMS. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL

681
00:28:49,594 --> 00:28:52,430
$1.2 MILLION FOR THE SEATTLE 

682
00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:55,567
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICER 

683
00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:58,837
GUILD. SPIAGGE. AND TOGETHER 

684
00:28:58,837 --> 00:29:01,506
THAT THAT'S ABOUT $58 MILLION. 

685
00:29:01,506 --> 00:29:04,476
THE 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET ALSO 

686
00:29:04,476 --> 00:29:06,244
INCLUDES ABOUT $12.5 MILLION TO 

687
00:29:06,244 --> 00:29:08,780
PAY FOR ADDITIONAL SWORN OFFICER

688
00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:15,620
COSTS. THERE IS A HIGHER COST 

689
00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:16,788
FOR OFFICERS HIRED IN 2027 

690
00:29:16,788 --> 00:29:18,523
BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST FULL 

691
00:29:18,523 --> 00:29:21,092
YEAR. SORRY FOR THE I MISSPOKE. 

692
00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:22,393
THERE'S A HIGHER COST FOR 

693
00:29:22,393 --> 00:29:26,097
OFFICERS HIRED IN 2026 BECAUSE 

694
00:29:26,097 --> 00:29:27,232
THEY WORKED FOR LESS THAN A FULL

695
00:29:27,232 --> 00:29:30,034
YEAR. IN 2027. IT WILL BE THEIR 

696
00:29:30,034 --> 00:29:31,870
FIRST FULL YEAR, AND IT WILL 

697
00:29:31,870 --> 00:29:33,037
COST MORE TO KEEP THEM EMPLOYED 

698
00:29:33,037 --> 00:29:33,938
FOR A WHOLE YEAR, WHICH 

699
00:29:33,938 --> 00:29:35,540
OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO DO. THERE 

700
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:37,909
ARE ALSO ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR 

701
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:39,844
NET NEW OFFICERS WHO WILL BE 

702
00:29:39,844 --> 00:29:41,012
HIRED IN 2027. AS I SHOWED IN AN

703
00:29:41,012 --> 00:29:44,849
EARLIER SLIDE. THAT IS THE END 

704
00:29:44,849 --> 00:29:46,484
OF MY PREPARED REMARKS AND 

705
00:29:46,484 --> 00:29:47,752
SLIDES. HAPPY TO ADDRESS 

706
00:29:47,752 --> 00:29:48,052
QUESTIONS. 

707
00:29:48,052 --> 00:29:50,355
-- THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF SALES 

708
00:29:50,355 --> 00:29:51,923
DIRECTOR. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD 

709
00:29:51,923 --> 00:29:55,026
AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU. 

710
00:29:55,026 --> 00:29:56,261
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE IS CHAIR OF

711
00:29:56,261 --> 00:29:56,861
THE COMMITTEE OVERSEEING THIS 

712
00:29:56,861 --> 00:29:57,962
DEPARTMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED 

713
00:29:57,962 --> 00:29:59,097
AND COLLEAGUES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO

714
00:29:59,097 --> 00:30:01,766
RAISE YOUR HANDS NOW, I WILL 

715
00:30:01,766 --> 00:30:03,401
SPEAK SECOND TO LAST. I'LL GIVE

716
00:30:03,401 --> 00:30:04,736
THE COMMITTEE TABLE A CHANCE TO 

717
00:30:04,736 --> 00:30:07,238
RESPOND AFTER I SPEAK, AND THEN 

718
00:30:07,238 --> 00:30:07,872
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE WILL HAVE 

719
00:30:07,872 --> 00:30:09,874
LAST WORD. THANK YOU. 

720
00:30:09,874 --> 00:30:11,543
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK YOU. 

721
00:30:11,543 --> 00:30:14,679
WELCOME, DIRECTOR. BACK. CHIEF 

722
00:30:14,679 --> 00:30:16,447
SALES, MR. ETTER AND OUR OWN 

723
00:30:16,447 --> 00:30:19,884
CENTRAL STAFF. MR. WHITSON. YOU 

724
00:30:19,884 --> 00:30:21,553
KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING GOING 

725
00:30:21,553 --> 00:30:22,854
THROUGH THIS BUDGET PROCESS. AND

726
00:30:22,854 --> 00:30:24,989
YESTERDAY WE HAD A LOT OF TALK 

727
00:30:24,989 --> 00:30:26,491
ABOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS, 

728
00:30:26,491 --> 00:30:28,393
TALKING ABOUT MY AMENDMENT FROM 

729
00:30:28,393 --> 00:30:29,527
LAST YEAR, WHICH KIND OF, IN MY 

730
00:30:29,527 --> 00:30:31,162
MIND CREATES SOME DISCIPLINE IN 

731
00:30:31,162 --> 00:30:33,031
TERMS OF THE OUT YEARS TO 2030 

732
00:30:33,031 --> 00:30:35,133
AND SO FORTH. IT HELPS US FOCUS 

733
00:30:35,133 --> 00:30:36,334
IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ON

734
00:30:36,334 --> 00:30:39,170
THE BUDGET FRONT. BUT I'M ALSO 

735
00:30:39,170 --> 00:30:41,406
THOUGHT, AND THIS CAME UP 

736
00:30:41,406 --> 00:30:41,940
YESTERDAY IN TERMS OF THE 

737
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:43,541
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE AS A 

738
00:30:43,541 --> 00:30:45,877
COUNCIL, WITH MY AMENDMENT, GOT 

739
00:30:45,877 --> 00:30:49,013
IN PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT INTO 

740
00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:50,381
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND 

741
00:30:50,381 --> 00:30:51,849
THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND IN FACT, 

742
00:30:51,849 --> 00:30:53,418
THE STATE. SO OCR SHOULD HAVE 

743
00:30:53,418 --> 00:30:56,087
THIS ON THEIR LIST. THE STATE 

744
00:30:56,087 --> 00:30:57,956
SHOULD ADOPT A LAW THAT 

745
00:30:57,956 --> 00:30:58,523
INCORPORATES PUBLIC SAFETY 

746
00:30:58,523 --> 00:31:00,725
ELEMENT PLANNING INTO THE 

747
00:31:00,725 --> 00:31:01,292
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THE 

748
00:31:01,292 --> 00:31:03,328
REASON WHY IS WE HAVE TO, WHEN 

749
00:31:03,328 --> 00:31:04,462
LOOKING AT PUBLIC SAFETY, LOOK 

750
00:31:04,462 --> 00:31:05,964
TO THE FUTURE. IF WE HAD 120 

751
00:31:05,964 --> 00:31:08,600
YEARS AGO, WE MIGHT HAVE A FIRE 

752
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,134
STATION ON ON LAKE UNION. MAYBE 

753
00:31:10,134 --> 00:31:11,169
WE WOULD HAVE A NEW NORTH 

754
00:31:11,169 --> 00:31:12,303
PRECINCT, MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE A 

755
00:31:12,303 --> 00:31:13,705
NORTHEAST AND THE NORTHWEST 

756
00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:14,873
PRECINCT. I MEAN, THERE'S 

757
00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:15,773
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD HAVE

758
00:31:15,773 --> 00:31:17,175
HAPPENED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO 

759
00:31:17,175 --> 00:31:20,178
LOOK TO THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF 

760
00:31:20,178 --> 00:31:23,047
20, 30, 40 AND 50. AND I HAVE A 

761
00:31:23,047 --> 00:31:25,316
LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ON THIS 

762
00:31:25,316 --> 00:31:26,017
FRONT AND RECENTLY WON AN EXPERT

763
00:31:26,017 --> 00:31:28,553
IN THE AREA. AND WE'RE HAVING 

764
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:29,754
THIS DISCUSSION. AND I WAS TOLD 

765
00:31:29,754 --> 00:31:33,558
IN 2050, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO

766
00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:35,126
HAVE TO HAVE 1800 OFFICERS IN 

767
00:31:35,126 --> 00:31:36,661
OUR CITY. WITH THE POPULATION 

768
00:31:36,661 --> 00:31:38,062
GROWTH AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IF 

769
00:31:38,062 --> 00:31:40,064
YOU LOOK AT OUR PEER CITIES, YOU

770
00:31:40,064 --> 00:31:41,599
KNOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE, 

771
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:42,667
YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO THE 

772
00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:44,168
RATIOS, BOSTON, YOU KNOW, THESE 

773
00:31:44,168 --> 00:31:45,169
DIFFERENT CITIES, YOU KNOW, IN 

774
00:31:45,169 --> 00:31:47,438
TERMS OF NUMBER OF OFFICERS PER 

775
00:31:47,438 --> 00:31:50,975
1000 PEOPLE, LIKE 1600 OFFICERS 

776
00:31:50,975 --> 00:31:54,445
ON THE FORCE. OUR GOAL THE 

777
00:31:54,445 --> 00:31:55,313
ENTIRE THREE YEARS THAT I'VE 

778
00:31:55,313 --> 00:31:57,882
BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN 

779
00:31:57,882 --> 00:32:01,586
OVER 1400 OFFICERS. THE NUMBER 

780
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:02,854
1258 THAT I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO

781
00:32:02,854 --> 00:32:04,689
AGAIN AND AGAIN THIS YEAR IS 

782
00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:06,124
INTERMEDIATE GOAL. AND IT'S A 

783
00:32:06,124 --> 00:32:07,692
GOAL TO KEEP THE MOMENTUM MOVING

784
00:32:07,692 --> 00:32:12,597
FORWARD IN TERMS OF POLICE 

785
00:32:12,597 --> 00:32:16,034
HIRING. UNFORTUNATELY THE 1250 

786
00:32:16,034 --> 00:32:17,935
NUMBER IS NOT GOING TO HELP US. 

787
00:32:17,935 --> 00:32:20,071
I'M SAD TO SAY IT WAS A ROUND 

788
00:32:20,071 --> 00:32:22,373
DOWN FROM 1258 INSTEAD OF 1260. 

789
00:32:22,373 --> 00:32:24,342
BUT IN TERMS OF BUDGET SPEAK, 

790
00:32:24,342 --> 00:32:25,877
OUR NUMBERS UP TO NOW WAS 1184. 

791
00:32:25,877 --> 00:32:27,512
AND WE HAVE THESE NUMBERS 

792
00:32:27,512 --> 00:32:29,714
BECAUSE WE CAN'T BUDGET AND HAVE

793
00:32:29,714 --> 00:32:32,016
ALL THAT MONEY SITTING OUT THERE

794
00:32:32,016 --> 00:32:32,850
FOR 1400 OFFICERS PLUS, YOU 

795
00:32:32,850 --> 00:32:33,985
KNOW, 1184 IS THE BUDGET NUMBER.

796
00:32:33,985 --> 00:32:35,586
AND IT MAKES SENSE FROM A BUDGET

797
00:32:35,586 --> 00:32:38,423
NUMBER. BUT THE ISSUE NOW, IF 

798
00:32:38,423 --> 00:32:41,092
YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS FROM 

799
00:32:41,092 --> 00:32:44,128
THE ADMINISTRATION AS IT RELATES

800
00:32:44,128 --> 00:32:48,466
TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, IS

801
00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:49,901
PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT SEEMS 

802
00:32:49,901 --> 00:32:50,668
LIKE WE'VE GIVEN UP ON THE GOAL

803
00:32:50,668 --> 00:32:53,738
OF REACHING 1400 PLUS, WHICH IS 

804
00:32:53,738 --> 00:32:54,539
REALLY THE MINIMUM THAT WE NEED 

805
00:32:54,539 --> 00:32:59,544
TO HAVE FOR OFFICERS. IN FACT, 

806
00:32:59,544 --> 00:33:01,379
THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2028 IS 

807
00:33:01,379 --> 00:33:04,382
A BUDGET THAT HAS ZERO NEW NET 

808
00:33:04,382 --> 00:33:05,883
HIRES. AND SHOULD WE, AS A 

809
00:33:05,883 --> 00:33:07,118
COUNCIL, INTERPRET THIS TO MEAN 

810
00:33:07,118 --> 00:33:08,519
THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE NO 

811
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,489
LONGER WISHES TO GROW THE SIZE 

812
00:33:11,489 --> 00:33:14,359
OF THE DEPARTMENT LONG TERM, IT 

813
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:15,693
TAKES A YEAR TO TRAIN THE POLICE

814
00:33:15,693 --> 00:33:17,895
OFFICER. I SAY GROW A COP. IT 

815
00:33:17,895 --> 00:33:19,597
TAKES A YEAR. THE STATEMENT 

816
00:33:19,597 --> 00:33:21,099
BUDGET IN 28 WILL SERIOUSLY SET 

817
00:33:21,099 --> 00:33:22,667
US BACK IN TERMS OF REACHING OUR

818
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:25,970
GOAL OF 1400 POLICE OFFICERS. SO

819
00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:27,538
MY QUESTION, WE COULD START WITH

820
00:33:27,538 --> 00:33:28,606
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS DOES THE 

821
00:33:28,606 --> 00:33:31,642
MAYOR SHARE WITH THE GOAL OF 

822
00:33:31,642 --> 00:33:33,444
GETTING TO OVER 1400 OFFICERS? 

823
00:33:33,444 --> 00:33:34,078
THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ARTICULATED 

824
00:33:34,078 --> 00:33:35,913
BY POLICE CHIEF'S FORMER 

825
00:33:35,913 --> 00:33:38,983
ADMINISTRATIONS. AND THIS 

826
00:33:38,983 --> 00:33:40,651
COUNCIL. IF NOT, HOW MANY 

827
00:33:40,651 --> 00:33:41,686
OFFICERS DOES THE MAYOR THINK WE

828
00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:50,728
NEED IN SEATTLE? 

829
00:33:50,728 --> 00:33:52,563
-- I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT 

830
00:33:52,563 --> 00:33:54,265
QUESTION FOR FURTHER FOLLOW UP 

831
00:33:54,265 --> 00:33:55,466
FROM OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORS.

832
00:33:55,466 --> 00:33:56,701
BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT 

833
00:33:56,701 --> 00:34:00,004
WHILE THAT WAS A GOAL, IT WAS 

834
00:34:00,004 --> 00:34:00,538
NOT GROUNDED IN FINANCIAL 

835
00:34:00,538 --> 00:34:03,207
REALITY. SO IF THAT IS THE GOAL,

836
00:34:03,207 --> 00:34:05,343
THERE NEEDS TO BE A STRATEGY FOR

837
00:34:05,343 --> 00:34:07,745
HOW TO PAY FOR THOSE OFFICERS. 

838
00:34:07,745 --> 00:34:09,647
AND WHAT THIS BUDGET DOES IS 

839
00:34:09,647 --> 00:34:11,816
REFLECT THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE 

840
00:34:11,816 --> 00:34:16,454
NOW TO FUND TO 1250 OFFICERS. 

841
00:34:16,454 --> 00:34:17,488
-- MY GOAL IS TO CREATE A SAFE 

842
00:34:17,488 --> 00:34:20,158
BASE IN OUR CITY. MY GOAL IS TO 

843
00:34:20,158 --> 00:34:21,626
CREATE A SAFER SEATTLE. YOU 

844
00:34:21,626 --> 00:34:23,127
KNOW, THE MAYOR COMES OUT WITH A

845
00:34:23,127 --> 00:34:24,929
GUN VIOLENCE PLAN. THAT WAS 

846
00:34:24,929 --> 00:34:25,696
REALLY INTERESTING. THERE'S ONE

847
00:34:25,696 --> 00:34:26,597
AREA THAT WAS GREAT OF INTEREST 

848
00:34:26,597 --> 00:34:27,665
TO ME, AND CHIEF BARDEN JUST 

849
00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:28,666
LEFT, AND IT'S RELATED TO HER 

850
00:34:28,666 --> 00:34:31,269
AND HER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 

851
00:34:31,269 --> 00:34:32,270
COMMUNITY SAFETY FOLKS AS IT 

852
00:34:32,270 --> 00:34:33,771
RELATES TO GUN VIOLENCE. 

853
00:34:33,771 --> 00:34:37,308
BUILDING ON WHAT SHE'S NOW DOING

854
00:34:37,308 --> 00:34:37,909
WITH DIVERSION. BUT WHEN THE 

855
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:41,612
MAYOR COMES OUT WITH A GUN 

856
00:34:41,612 --> 00:34:42,113
VIOLENCE PLAN THAT SAYS 

857
00:34:42,113 --> 00:34:42,847
DIFFERENT PIECES, OH, WE'RE 

858
00:34:42,847 --> 00:34:43,748
GOING TO HIRE MORE. WE'RE GOING

859
00:34:43,748 --> 00:34:45,583
TO HAVE MORE BIKE COPS. YOU 

860
00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:48,085
CANNOT HAVE MORE BIKE COPS FOR 

861
00:34:48,085 --> 00:34:49,187
GUN VIOLENCE. YOU CAN'T HAVE 

862
00:34:49,187 --> 00:34:51,522
MORE BIKE COPS FOR BELLTOWN IN 

863
00:34:51,522 --> 00:34:53,257
LITTLE SAIGON UNLESS YOU GROW 

864
00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:56,160
THE OVERALL NUMBER. SO WE CANNOT

865
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,094
HAVE THIS ONE PIECE WHERE, OH, 

866
00:34:57,094 --> 00:34:58,262
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TRUST ME, 

867
00:34:58,262 --> 00:34:59,263
HOW MANY GROUPS, HOW MANY 

868
00:34:59,263 --> 00:35:00,198
MEETINGS HAVE I HAD? OH, WE'RE 

869
00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:01,399
GOING TO HAVE MORE BIKE COPS IN 

870
00:35:01,399 --> 00:35:03,468
BELLTOWN. THE DEAL WITH THE DRUG

871
00:35:03,468 --> 00:35:04,469
MARKET. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 

872
00:35:04,469 --> 00:35:05,736
MORE BIKE COPS IN LITTLE SAIGON,

873
00:35:05,736 --> 00:35:07,438
90 DAYS. WE'RE GOING TO PRESS 

874
00:35:07,438 --> 00:35:08,573
FORWARD. I CAN GO THROUGH AN 

875
00:35:08,573 --> 00:35:09,373
ENTIRE CITY. I CAN GO DOWN THIS 

876
00:35:09,373 --> 00:35:10,641
ROAD AND TALK ABOUT EVERY PART 

877
00:35:10,641 --> 00:35:13,778
OF THE CITY WHERE PROMISES WERE 

878
00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:14,345
MADE TO NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH 

879
00:35:14,345 --> 00:35:16,781
SEATTLE, NORTH AURORA, OH, WE'RE

880
00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:18,516
GOING TO HAVE MORE BIKE COPS. IT

881
00:35:18,516 --> 00:35:20,451
BECOMES AN EMPTY PROMISE IF WE 

882
00:35:20,451 --> 00:35:22,854
DON'T DO THE WORK ON THE BUDGET

883
00:35:22,854 --> 00:35:23,488
SIDE AND MAKE THOSE HARD 

884
00:35:23,488 --> 00:35:25,056
DECISIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT 

885
00:35:25,056 --> 00:35:26,023
YESTERDAY, IF WE DON'T MAKE 

886
00:35:26,023 --> 00:35:27,291
THOSE HARD DECISIONS AS IT 

887
00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:28,759
RELATES TO PUBLIC SAFETY, 

888
00:35:28,759 --> 00:35:30,661
EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS APART. YOU

889
00:35:30,661 --> 00:35:32,497
KNOW, IN TERMS OF OPCD, THE 

890
00:35:32,497 --> 00:35:33,564
GREAT WORK THAT THEY'RE LOOKING

891
00:35:33,564 --> 00:35:35,666
TO DO, THAT'S NOT GOING TO 

892
00:35:35,666 --> 00:35:37,001
HAPPEN IN TERMS IF WE DON'T HAVE

893
00:35:37,001 --> 00:35:37,969
THE PUBLIC SAFETY, IF WE DO NOT 

894
00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:42,673
HAVE A SAFE BASE IN THE CITY, IT

895
00:35:42,673 --> 00:35:43,908
DOES NOT HAPPEN. SO THIS COMES 

896
00:35:43,908 --> 00:35:45,510
THIS IS A BUDGET MEETING, BUT IT

897
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:47,111
ALSO HAS TO BE ROOTED IN THE 

898
00:35:47,111 --> 00:35:48,946
REALITIES OF WHAT'S HAPPENING 

899
00:35:48,946 --> 00:35:51,349
ON THE GROUND THROUGHOUT OUR 

900
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:51,716
CITY. DIRECTOR. 

901
00:35:51,716 --> 00:35:52,917
-- COULD AYE. YEAH, I WOULD, YOU

902
00:35:52,917 --> 00:35:54,685
KNOW, I WILL JUST SAY AGAIN, THE

903
00:35:54,685 --> 00:35:56,687
THE PROPOSED BUDGET FUNDS, 1250 

904
00:35:56,687 --> 00:35:58,923
SWORN OFFICERS. I HEAR YOU THAT 

905
00:35:58,923 --> 00:35:59,590
YOU DON'T THINK THAT IS THE 

906
00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:01,659
RIGHT NUMBER, BUT IT'S LEAVING 

907
00:36:01,659 --> 00:36:03,327
GROWTH OPEN ENDED. IT ENDS SOME 

908
00:36:03,327 --> 00:36:04,762
OF THE FUNDING, BUT IT ALSO THE 

909
00:36:04,762 --> 00:36:06,797
BUDGET KEEPS MORE THAN $100 

910
00:36:06,797 --> 00:36:09,300
MILLION A YEAR OF INVESTMENTS IN

911
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:09,934
OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTMENTS 

912
00:36:09,934 --> 00:36:12,470
OUTSIDE OF TRADITIONAL POLICING.

913
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:14,672
SO IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT 

914
00:36:14,672 --> 00:36:16,374
CHOICE, YOU NEED TO REDUCE 

915
00:36:16,374 --> 00:36:18,976
SPENDING IN OTHER PLACES TO 

916
00:36:18,976 --> 00:36:20,912
CONTINUE TO GROW BEYOND THAT 

917
00:36:20,912 --> 00:36:21,145
NUMBER. 

918
00:36:21,145 --> 00:36:22,880
-- WELL, YES, THERE'S CHOICES. 

919
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,581
AND OBVIOUSLY THE MAYOR AND THE 

920
00:36:23,581 --> 00:36:25,883
TEAM HAS MADE A CHOICE TO GO 

921
00:36:25,883 --> 00:36:28,653
LOW. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GOAL 

922
00:36:28,653 --> 00:36:30,521
THIS NEW 1184 NUMBER, THE BUDGET

923
00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:32,256
GOAL, NOT A GOAL LIKE IN TERMS 

924
00:36:32,256 --> 00:36:33,824
OF GROWING THE NUMBERS, BUT A 

925
00:36:33,824 --> 00:36:36,193
BUDGET GOAL OF 1250, BASICALLY 

926
00:36:36,193 --> 00:36:42,400
IN 27 LEAVES US WITH ABOUT 1088 

927
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,135
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS. THAT'S 

928
00:36:44,135 --> 00:36:46,137
IT. AND IN 28 IT'S 1151. WE'LL

929
00:36:46,137 --> 00:36:47,772
ALWAYS HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW,

930
00:36:47,772 --> 00:36:49,674
IN THE PIPELINE OFFICERS AND 

931
00:36:49,674 --> 00:36:51,475
FIELD TRAINING RECRUITS AT THE 

932
00:36:51,475 --> 00:36:52,243
ACADEMY. THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS 

933
00:36:52,243 --> 00:36:53,277
THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR 

934
00:36:53,277 --> 00:36:56,314
OUR CITY AND THAT'S GOING TO 

935
00:36:56,314 --> 00:36:59,350
MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE GROUND 

936
00:36:59,350 --> 00:37:02,219
IN TERMS OF RECRUITMENT AND 

937
00:37:02,219 --> 00:37:03,354
RETENTION TO, YOU KNOW, I LOOK 

938
00:37:03,354 --> 00:37:04,855
AT THESE NUMBERS, I SUPPORT 

939
00:37:04,855 --> 00:37:06,023
CHANGING UP WHAT WE'RE DOING IN

940
00:37:06,023 --> 00:37:08,092
RECRUITMENT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE IN

941
00:37:08,092 --> 00:37:10,127
A CHANGE PLACE. WE NEED TO DO 

942
00:37:10,127 --> 00:37:11,963
THINGS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, 

943
00:37:11,963 --> 00:37:13,064
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE'VE

944
00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:16,601
DONE TO OUR MOMENTUM. LIKE THE 

945
00:37:16,601 --> 00:37:18,235
INCENTIVES PIECE, YES, WE SHOULD

946
00:37:18,235 --> 00:37:20,404
ADJUST IT, BUT LATERAL 

947
00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:21,906
TRANSFERS, IF WE GET LATERAL 

948
00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:24,008
TRANSFERS, ISN'T THAT A NET 

949
00:37:24,008 --> 00:37:25,743
POSITIVE FOR US? CHIEF SALES, IF

950
00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:28,145
WE BRING IN LATERAL TRANSFERS 

951
00:37:28,145 --> 00:37:29,146
USING AN INCENTIVE FOR THOSE NOT

952
00:37:29,146 --> 00:37:30,514
THE NEW HIRES, NOT SOMEBODY FROM

953
00:37:30,514 --> 00:37:32,383
THE STREET, BUT FROM ANOTHER 

954
00:37:32,383 --> 00:37:33,317
JURISDICTION WITH WASHINGTON 

955
00:37:33,317 --> 00:37:34,952
STATE, DOES THAT MAKE A 

956
00:37:34,952 --> 00:37:36,020
DIFFERENCE, CHIEF? 

957
00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:37,154
-- SO I'M GOING TO JUMP IN AND 

958
00:37:37,154 --> 00:37:38,255
FACILITATE A LITTLE BIT MORE 

959
00:37:38,255 --> 00:37:39,357
THAN I DID YESTERDAY. SO I'M 

960
00:37:39,357 --> 00:37:40,825
GOING TO BE DOING THE BACK AND 

961
00:37:40,825 --> 00:37:41,459
FORTH CHIEF OR ANYONE ELSE FROM 

962
00:37:41,459 --> 00:37:42,360
THE COMMITTEE TABLE. FEEL FREE 

963
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,928
TO ANSWER THE COUNCILMEMBERS 

964
00:37:43,928 --> 00:37:46,430
QUESTION. 

965
00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:48,633
-- YES, I BELIEVE LOOKING AT A 

966
00:37:48,633 --> 00:37:51,535
WAY TO PROVIDE THE INCENTIVE FOR

967
00:37:51,535 --> 00:37:52,436
LATERAL HIRES, SPECIFICALLY HERE

968
00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:54,905
IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON WOULD

969
00:37:54,905 --> 00:37:58,175
BE IDEAL. WE TYPICALLY GET 

970
00:37:58,175 --> 00:37:59,677
ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 20 

971
00:37:59,677 --> 00:38:01,612
LATERAL HIRES A YEAR. THAT WOULD

972
00:38:01,612 --> 00:38:03,314
GIVE US POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE

973
00:38:03,314 --> 00:38:07,051
READY, THAT HAVE DONE THE JOB, 

974
00:38:07,051 --> 00:38:08,786
THAT HAVE LEFT POLICE AGENCIES, 

975
00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:10,288
HOPEFULLY, WITH GOOD STANDING, 

976
00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:11,422
AND WE WOULDN'T LOWER ANY 

977
00:38:11,422 --> 00:38:12,456
STANDARDS TO HIRE A PERSON THAT 

978
00:38:12,456 --> 00:38:13,024
LEFT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 

979
00:38:13,024 --> 00:38:14,458
BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING FOR 

980
00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:16,394
SOMETHING. BUT WE WOULD GET 

981
00:38:16,394 --> 00:38:17,528
GOOD, QUALIFIED OFFICERS FROM 

982
00:38:17,528 --> 00:38:18,963
THE STATE OF WASHINGTON THAT ARE

983
00:38:18,963 --> 00:38:19,597
COMMISSIONED HERE IN THE STATE 

984
00:38:19,597 --> 00:38:22,133
OF WASHINGTON, THAT ARE READILY 

985
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:24,435
ABLE TO GO ON THE STREET AFTER A

986
00:38:24,435 --> 00:38:25,603
REDUCED FIELD TRAINING PERIOD 

987
00:38:25,603 --> 00:38:26,937
HERE WITH THE SEATTLE POLICE 

988
00:38:26,937 --> 00:38:27,238
DEPARTMENT. 

989
00:38:27,238 --> 00:38:28,205
-- THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE FROM

990
00:38:28,205 --> 00:38:29,740
THE COMMITTEE TABLE AT THIS 

991
00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:30,374
TIME? COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE YOU 

992
00:38:30,374 --> 00:38:30,941
STILL HAVE THE FLOOR? 

993
00:38:30,941 --> 00:38:33,377
-- THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS

994
00:38:33,377 --> 00:38:34,045
OF RECRUITMENT RETENTION, I JUST

995
00:38:34,045 --> 00:38:35,846
WANT TO NOTE, WE ESSENTIALLY HAD

996
00:38:35,846 --> 00:38:36,814
A WHISTLEBLOWER PIECE. I 

997
00:38:36,814 --> 00:38:37,882
RECOGNIZE THERE'S STILL PIECES 

998
00:38:37,882 --> 00:38:38,916
GOING ON IN TERMS OF RECRUITMENT

999
00:38:38,916 --> 00:38:41,419
AND SO FORTH. BUT THEN THERE'S 

1000
00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:42,086
ALSO SOME INDICATIONS THAT WE'RE

1001
00:38:42,086 --> 00:38:43,988
NOT DOING WHAT WE COULD IN 

1002
00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:45,556
CERTAIN AREAS. AND THIS GOES TO 

1003
00:38:45,556 --> 00:38:47,058
MOMENTUM. THIS GOES TO WHAT 

1004
00:38:47,058 --> 00:38:48,993
MESSAGE WE'RE SENDING. AND AS 

1005
00:38:48,993 --> 00:38:50,294
THE AS PEOPLE SAY, NOW, WHAT'S 

1006
00:38:50,294 --> 00:38:53,030
THE VIBES? AND THAT THAT IS OF 

1007
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:55,099
CONCERN TO ME. SHIFTING OVER 

1008
00:38:55,099 --> 00:38:57,234
JUST TWO MORE POINTS, CHAIR 

1009
00:38:57,234 --> 00:39:01,539
SHIFTING OVER TO PARKING 

1010
00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:03,040
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. WHY ARE WE

1011
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,342
ABROGATING PEOS? WHY ARE WE 

1012
00:39:05,342 --> 00:39:07,044
LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, DROP THIS 

1013
00:39:07,044 --> 00:39:09,246
NUMBER WHEN WE BARGAINED WITH 

1014
00:39:09,246 --> 00:39:10,715
SPVGG TO GET MORE FLEXIBILITY OF

1015
00:39:10,715 --> 00:39:12,483
USING PEOS PARKING ENFORCEMENT 

1016
00:39:12,483 --> 00:39:13,351
OFFICERS FOR THOSE IN THE 

1017
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:15,820
CHAMBER AND OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, 

1018
00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:17,321
TO DO THAT, LIKE WHY ARE WE 

1019
00:39:17,321 --> 00:39:20,024
MAKING DECISIONS RELATED TO 

1020
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:20,224
PEOS. 

1021
00:39:20,224 --> 00:39:24,562
-- DIRECTOR OR CHIEF SALES? 

1022
00:39:24,562 --> 00:39:27,331
-- THIS IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES 

1023
00:39:27,331 --> 00:39:29,433
OF AREAS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN 

1024
00:39:29,433 --> 00:39:31,335
PROPOSED EXPANSIONS OF LABOR 

1025
00:39:31,335 --> 00:39:33,037
COSTS THAT ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE 

1026
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:34,438
WITHIN OUR EXISTING RESOURCES. 

1027
00:39:34,438 --> 00:39:35,639
IT WON'T IMPACT OUR REVENUE 

1028
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:37,608
PROJECTIONS OF WHAT THE PARKING 

1029
00:39:37,608 --> 00:39:38,909
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WILL BRING 

1030
00:39:38,909 --> 00:39:42,446
IN. AND SO THIS IS A ONE OF THE 

1031
00:39:42,446 --> 00:39:44,648
STRATEGIES USED TO ADDRESS THE 

1032
00:39:44,648 --> 00:39:45,015
BUDGET DEFICIT. 

1033
00:39:45,015 --> 00:39:47,451
-- THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER, 

1034
00:39:47,451 --> 00:39:47,818
DIRECTOR ETTER? 

1035
00:39:47,818 --> 00:39:50,955
-- YEAH, WE HAVE CANDIDLY HAD 

1036
00:39:50,955 --> 00:39:52,389
TROUBLE FILLING THESE POSITIONS.

1037
00:39:52,389 --> 00:39:56,694
THEY HAVE BEEN FUNDED FOR I 

1038
00:39:56,694 --> 00:39:58,462
DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, BUT MORE 

1039
00:39:58,462 --> 00:40:00,765
THAN TWO YEARS. AND WE HAVE NOT 

1040
00:40:00,765 --> 00:40:04,001
BEEN ABLE TO MAKE PROGRESS 

1041
00:40:04,001 --> 00:40:06,237
HIRING THE THE POSITIONS WE 

1042
00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:08,372
CURRENTLY HAVE 17 VACANCIES. 

1043
00:40:08,372 --> 00:40:10,641
THAT'S IT'S HOVERED AROUND 

1044
00:40:10,641 --> 00:40:12,409
THAT LEVEL FOR MANY MONTHS, IF 

1045
00:40:12,409 --> 00:40:16,881
NOT AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS. 

1046
00:40:16,881 --> 00:40:20,084
WE DO EXPECT THAT WITH SOME 

1047
00:40:20,084 --> 00:40:21,585
CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN THE 

1048
00:40:21,585 --> 00:40:24,155
LABOR CONTRACT THAT CAME THROUGH

1049
00:40:24,155 --> 00:40:28,058
AND WAS APPROVED, I THINK LAST 

1050
00:40:28,058 --> 00:40:28,692
WEEK THROUGH THE FULL COUNCIL, 

1051
00:40:28,692 --> 00:40:31,295
THAT THERE IS ADDITIONAL 

1052
00:40:31,295 --> 00:40:32,663
ADDITIONAL PAY, WE MAY BE ABLE 

1053
00:40:32,663 --> 00:40:36,434
TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE AND AND 

1054
00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:40,171
RETAIN THE ONES WHO ARE THERE. 

1055
00:40:40,171 --> 00:40:42,540
WE EXPECT TO FILL SEVEN 

1056
00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:46,277
POSITIONS BY. I THINK IT'S BY 

1057
00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:48,445
THE MIDDLE OF 2027. THERE ARE, 

1058
00:40:48,445 --> 00:40:51,816
HOWEVER, NINE POSITIONS THAT WE 

1059
00:40:51,816 --> 00:40:53,984
WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FUND WITH THE

1060
00:40:53,984 --> 00:40:55,986
CURRENT RESOURCES. 

1061
00:40:55,986 --> 00:40:58,389
-- ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE 

1062
00:40:58,389 --> 00:40:59,023
COMMITTEE? COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE 

1063
00:40:59,023 --> 00:41:00,891
YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. 

1064
00:41:00,891 --> 00:41:01,926
-- SO ON THIS POINT, I 

1065
00:41:01,926 --> 00:41:03,127
RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE 

1066
00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:04,295
HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST 

1067
00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:05,830
PASSED THE LABOR AGREEMENT. I 

1068
00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:07,398
KNOW THERE'S BEEN CHALLENGES 

1069
00:41:07,398 --> 00:41:09,567
THERE, CHIEF SALES, YOU'RE MY 

1070
00:41:09,567 --> 00:41:11,669
FOURTH CHIEF. AND TO BE BLUNT, 

1071
00:41:11,669 --> 00:41:13,471
WORKING THE ISSUES RELATED TO 

1072
00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:15,039
PARKING ENFORCEMENT, IT COMES 

1073
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,007
DOWN TO LEADERSHIP. AND I 

1074
00:41:17,007 --> 00:41:18,943
RECOGNIZE IT'S LOWER AND LEVEL.

1075
00:41:18,943 --> 00:41:20,845
BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE 

1076
00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:22,313
EMPHASIS, THE LEADERSHIP, YOU 

1077
00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:23,848
KNOW, SHOWING SOME LOVE TO THE 

1078
00:41:23,848 --> 00:41:26,750
UNIT TO BE FRANK, HASN'T BEEN 

1079
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:28,619
THERE OVER THE THREE PREVIOUS 

1080
00:41:28,619 --> 00:41:29,753
CHIEFS. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A

1081
00:41:29,753 --> 00:41:31,255
CHALLENGE. THAT'S JUST THE 

1082
00:41:31,255 --> 00:41:33,724
BOTTOM LINE FACT IN TERMS OF 

1083
00:41:33,724 --> 00:41:34,825
IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS 

1084
00:41:34,825 --> 00:41:36,060
NOT GOTTEN THE ATTENTION THAT IT

1085
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:37,094
NEEDS FROM A LEADERSHIP 

1086
00:41:37,094 --> 00:41:38,062
PERSPECTIVE. I'M JUST SAYING 

1087
00:41:38,062 --> 00:41:39,230
THIS OUT LOUD SO YOU CAN LOOK AT

1088
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:41,432
IT AND MAYBE MAKE SOME 

1089
00:41:41,432 --> 00:41:43,234
ADJUSTMENTS THERE. CHAIR, MY 

1090
00:41:43,234 --> 00:41:45,102
LAST QUESTION RELATES TO THE 

1091
00:41:45,102 --> 00:41:48,372
REAL TIME CRIME CENTER 

1092
00:41:48,372 --> 00:41:50,040
COLLEAGUES AND FOR THE PEOPLE AT

1093
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,543
THE TABLE AND EVERYONE HERE, WE 

1094
00:41:52,543 --> 00:41:55,279
WORK THROUGH SO MANY BILLS 

1095
00:41:55,279 --> 00:41:57,381
RELATED TO OUR TECH PROGRAM AND 

1096
00:41:57,381 --> 00:41:59,216
TO INCLUDE THE REAL TIME CRIME 

1097
00:41:59,216 --> 00:42:00,784
CENTER. WE WALKED THROUGH ALL 

1098
00:42:00,784 --> 00:42:02,086
THE PIECES WE BUILT IN, ALL THE 

1099
00:42:02,086 --> 00:42:03,988
PROTOCOLS WE BUILT IN THE 

1100
00:42:03,988 --> 00:42:05,189
COMPUTER AUDITS, AND ALL THESE 

1101
00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:05,856
DIFFERENT PIECES THAT GO TO THE 

1102
00:42:05,856 --> 00:42:09,894
REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, THE REAL

1103
00:42:09,894 --> 00:42:12,062
TIME CRIME CENTER HELPS OFFICERS

1104
00:42:12,062 --> 00:42:15,432
BE BETTER, MORE EFFICIENT, MORE 

1105
00:42:15,432 --> 00:42:16,534
EFFECTIVE TO REALLY GET MORE OUT

1106
00:42:16,534 --> 00:42:17,601
OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING DAY TO 

1107
00:42:17,601 --> 00:42:19,470
DAY, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE IN

1108
00:42:19,470 --> 00:42:23,107
THIS UNDERSTAFFED SENSE. AND TO 

1109
00:42:23,107 --> 00:42:24,842
BE BLUNT, PEOPLE WONDER WHY WE 

1110
00:42:24,842 --> 00:42:26,310
STILL HAVE THE ISSUES IN OUR 

1111
00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:27,611
CHRONIC PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES. 

1112
00:42:27,611 --> 00:42:28,913
BECAUSE I'VE SAID THIS IN 

1113
00:42:28,913 --> 00:42:29,847
COMMITTEE AND PUBLIC SAFETY 

1114
00:42:29,847 --> 00:42:31,315
COMMITTEE, IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE A

1115
00:42:31,315 --> 00:42:32,816
CITY OF TWO MINDS. WE CAN'T MAKE

1116
00:42:32,816 --> 00:42:34,818
A DECISION AND MOVE FORWARD. WE 

1117
00:42:34,818 --> 00:42:37,454
MADE A DECISION ON THE REAL TIME

1118
00:42:37,454 --> 00:42:39,490
CRIME CENTER 2026. THE LAW SAYS 

1119
00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:40,958
THOSE NINE POSITIONS SHOULD HAVE

1120
00:42:40,958 --> 00:42:42,293
BEEN FILLED, AND THEY WEREN'T. 

1121
00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:43,694
AND THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME 

1122
00:42:43,694 --> 00:42:45,362
PREROGATIVES GIVEN TO THE 

1123
00:42:45,362 --> 00:42:46,597
EXECUTIVE, BUT THAT WAS A 

1124
00:42:46,597 --> 00:42:48,565
MISTAKE BECAUSE THE REAL TIME 

1125
00:42:48,565 --> 00:42:51,602
CRIME CENTER MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

1126
00:42:51,602 --> 00:42:56,340
AND BEING 24/7 MAKES A 

1127
00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:58,075
DIFFERENCE. THE REAL TIME CRIME 

1128
00:42:58,075 --> 00:42:59,777
CENTER FROM A CIVILIAN LAW 

1129
00:42:59,777 --> 00:43:00,344
ENFORCEMENT VIEW IS REALLY 

1130
00:43:00,344 --> 00:43:01,145
NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I 

1131
00:43:01,145 --> 00:43:03,147
DID IN MY CAREER. YOU KNOW, 92 

1132
00:43:03,147 --> 00:43:03,847
WHEN I DEPLOYED ON THE CARRIER 

1133
00:43:03,847 --> 00:43:07,351
OF BOSNIA AND YUGOSLAVIA AND THE

1134
00:43:07,351 --> 00:43:08,852
WATCH THAT I STOOD ON, OR THE 

1135
00:43:08,852 --> 00:43:10,487
WATCH THAT I OVERSAW AS THE HEAD

1136
00:43:10,487 --> 00:43:12,256
OF THE INTELLIGENCE DEPARTMENT 

1137
00:43:12,256 --> 00:43:12,890
ON A CARRIER STENNIS. WHEN WE 

1138
00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:14,124
DEPLOYED IN 2011 OUT OF 

1139
00:43:14,124 --> 00:43:15,659
BREMERTON IN SUPPORT OF IRAQ AND

1140
00:43:15,659 --> 00:43:16,694
AFGHANISTAN. AND I HAD THREE 

1141
00:43:16,694 --> 00:43:18,963
OTHER WATCH INSTANCES IN 

1142
00:43:18,963 --> 00:43:20,297
BETWEEN, VERY SIMILAR TO THE 

1143
00:43:20,297 --> 00:43:22,333
REAL TIME CRIME CENTER. IT'S 

1144
00:43:22,333 --> 00:43:24,535
ABOUT HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF

1145
00:43:24,535 --> 00:43:26,470
WHAT THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER 

1146
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:27,438
BRINGS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

1147
00:43:27,438 --> 00:43:29,373
AND TO BE FRANK, THE SEVENTH 

1148
00:43:29,373 --> 00:43:30,908
FLOOR DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT 

1149
00:43:30,908 --> 00:43:31,942
THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER 

1150
00:43:31,942 --> 00:43:33,777
BRINGS TO THE POLICE FORCE. THEY

1151
00:43:33,777 --> 00:43:35,913
DON'T HAVE THAT INTRINSIC 

1152
00:43:35,913 --> 00:43:37,715
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT MEANS. 

1153
00:43:37,715 --> 00:43:39,450
AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A LOST 

1154
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:42,419
OPPORTUNITY. AND AND TO DO THIS 

1155
00:43:42,419 --> 00:43:44,288
PIECE HERE WITH THE REAL TIME 

1156
00:43:44,288 --> 00:43:46,156
CRIME CENTER ON THE FTES IS A, 

1157
00:43:46,156 --> 00:43:50,027
AGAIN, A, A AN UNFORTUNATE 

1158
00:43:50,027 --> 00:43:51,662
DECISION THAT WAS MADE BY THE 

1159
00:43:51,662 --> 00:43:53,197
ADMINISTRATION. AND IT MAKES A 

1160
00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:55,132
DIFFERENCE. SO AGAIN, IF WE KEEP

1161
00:43:55,132 --> 00:43:56,567
WONDERING WHY WE HAVE THESE 

1162
00:43:56,567 --> 00:43:57,201
CHRONIC PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES ON 

1163
00:43:57,201 --> 00:43:58,502
OUR STREETS IS BECAUSE WE DON'T

1164
00:43:58,502 --> 00:44:00,204
HAVE THE FOLLOW THROUGH LAWS ARE

1165
00:44:00,204 --> 00:44:02,239
NOT IMPLEMENTED TO INCLUDE 

1166
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,707
BUDGET LAWS. AND THAT MAKES A 

1167
00:44:03,707 --> 00:44:07,011
BIG DIFFERENCE. AND CHAIR, JUST 

1168
00:44:07,011 --> 00:44:09,346
TO JUST TO CLOSE ON THIS, YOU 

1169
00:44:09,346 --> 00:44:10,881
KNOW, I MENTIONED ABOUT BEING 

1170
00:44:10,881 --> 00:44:13,951
INFLECTION POINTS, YOU KNOW, BY 

1171
00:44:13,951 --> 00:44:14,551
THE SEATTLE BEING INFLECTION 

1172
00:44:14,551 --> 00:44:17,087
POINT, YOU KNOW, THE REMOVAL, 

1173
00:44:17,087 --> 00:44:18,355
THE OF CHIEF BARNES AS CHIEF OF 

1174
00:44:18,355 --> 00:44:19,723
POLICE BEING AN INFLECTION 

1175
00:44:19,723 --> 00:44:21,091
POINT. AND THE BUDGET IS THE 

1176
00:44:21,091 --> 00:44:23,594
BIGGEST INFLECTION POINT. AND 

1177
00:44:23,594 --> 00:44:25,496
EACH TIME THERE WAS A BIT OF A 

1178
00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:26,497
ROSY STORY BY THE SEATTLE. OH, 

1179
00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:28,732
NO, NO, IT WAS OVER HERE. OH NO,

1180
00:44:28,732 --> 00:44:31,168
IT WAS A RESIGNATION. ACTUALLY, 

1181
00:44:31,168 --> 00:44:33,237
IT WAS REMOVAL FORCED. AND, YOU 

1182
00:44:33,237 --> 00:44:35,773
KNOW, ON TUESDAY, THE 

1183
00:44:35,773 --> 00:44:37,141
PRESENTATION AT THE LIBRARY WAS 

1184
00:44:37,141 --> 00:44:40,878
VERY POSITIVE. OH, WE'RE ADDING

1185
00:44:40,878 --> 00:44:42,980
POLICE OFFICERS. BUT THIS 

1186
00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:43,580
INFLECTION POINT, THIS PIECE 

1187
00:44:43,580 --> 00:44:50,988
RIGHT HERE SHOWS AGAIN THAT NOT 

1188
00:44:50,988 --> 00:44:53,457
SO. AND SPD IS KEY IN THIS. IT 

1189
00:44:53,457 --> 00:44:55,192
ALSO COMES UP, AS WE'LL SEE IN 

1190
00:44:55,192 --> 00:44:56,860
FIRE TO. THANK YOU CHAIR. 

1191
00:44:56,860 --> 00:44:58,495
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

1192
00:44:58,495 --> 00:45:00,864
KETTLE COMMITTEE TABLE. ANYTHING

1193
00:45:00,864 --> 00:45:01,598
THERE. NOPE. WE'RE GOING TO GO 

1194
00:45:01,598 --> 00:45:04,601
ON TO COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

1195
00:45:04,601 --> 00:45:06,637
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. YOU HAVE 

1196
00:45:06,637 --> 00:45:06,937
THE FLOOR. 

1197
00:45:06,937 --> 00:45:07,838
-- THANK YOU CHAIR STRAUSS. I 

1198
00:45:07,838 --> 00:45:09,573
WANT TO BEGIN WITH JUST A 

1199
00:45:09,573 --> 00:45:10,574
STATEMENT OF FACT THAT THE 

1200
00:45:10,574 --> 00:45:13,143
MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET 

1201
00:45:13,143 --> 00:45:15,479
INCLUDES RECORD SPENDING FOR 

1202
00:45:15,479 --> 00:45:20,584
SPD, WITH A PROPOSED BUDGET OF 

1203
00:45:20,584 --> 00:45:21,985
OVER HALF A BILLION 557 MILLION 

1204
00:45:21,985 --> 00:45:24,288
TO BE EXACT, AND THE PERVASIVE 

1205
00:45:24,288 --> 00:45:26,290
ISSUES THAT ARE WITHIN THE 

1206
00:45:26,290 --> 00:45:27,391
POLICE DEPARTMENT. I WILL JUST 

1207
00:45:27,391 --> 00:45:28,726
SAY I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS 

1208
00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:30,527
FOR TODAY, AND I THANK YOU IN 

1209
00:45:30,527 --> 00:45:31,495
ADVANCE FOR THE ANSWERS YOU'LL 

1210
00:45:31,495 --> 00:45:33,464
BE PROVIDING. AND TO KICK US 

1211
00:45:33,464 --> 00:45:36,200
OFF, I WANT TO START WITH THE 

1212
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,935
TRAINING BUDGET. AND SO COULD 

1213
00:45:37,935 --> 00:45:39,837
YOU PLEASE WALK THROUGH THE 

1214
00:45:39,837 --> 00:45:42,806
TRAININGS THAT ARE PLANNED FOR 

1215
00:45:42,806 --> 00:45:45,142
2027 WITH THESE FUNDS? I WANT TO

1216
00:45:45,142 --> 00:45:46,710
SPECIFICALLY UNDERSTAND, I KNOW 

1217
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:48,712
ABOUT EMPHASIS TRAININGS ON USE 

1218
00:45:48,712 --> 00:45:50,881
OF FORCE, LESS LETHAL TOOLS, 

1219
00:45:50,881 --> 00:45:52,449
CRISIS INTERVENTIONS, AND CROWD 

1220
00:45:52,449 --> 00:45:56,053
MANAGEMENT 

1221
00:45:56,053 --> 00:45:56,653
-- COMMITTEE TABLE CLOSURES. 

1222
00:45:56,653 --> 00:45:58,388
-- SO THE TRAINING BUDGET AND 

1223
00:45:58,388 --> 00:46:00,224
THE TRAININGS THAT WE PROVIDE 

1224
00:46:00,224 --> 00:46:02,259
OUR OFFICERS WITH YEARLY ARE 

1225
00:46:02,259 --> 00:46:03,494
STATE MANDATED TRAININGS. SO 

1226
00:46:03,494 --> 00:46:05,229
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE OUR 

1227
00:46:05,229 --> 00:46:07,030
QUALIFICATION OF FIREARMS, 

1228
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:10,300
MAKING SURE OUR OFFICERS ARE 

1229
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:12,035
CULTURALLY UNDERSTANDING OF THE 

1230
00:46:12,035 --> 00:46:13,837
CITY THAT WE CURRENTLY WORK IN. 

1231
00:46:13,837 --> 00:46:15,372
WE HAVE THOSE TRAININGS, 

1232
00:46:15,372 --> 00:46:16,673
THERE'S TRAININGS THAT OFFICERS

1233
00:46:16,673 --> 00:46:19,343
GET SENT TO, LIKE OUR ICAT 

1234
00:46:19,343 --> 00:46:19,843
INTERNET CRIMES AGAINST 

1235
00:46:19,843 --> 00:46:20,511
CHILDREN, THOSE TRAININGS THAT 

1236
00:46:20,511 --> 00:46:23,046
THEY GO TO ON A YEARLY BASIS. 

1237
00:46:23,046 --> 00:46:24,982
OUR SWAT TEAM NEEDS TO BE 

1238
00:46:24,982 --> 00:46:26,016
RECERTIFIED, AND THE TECHNIQUES 

1239
00:46:26,016 --> 00:46:27,151
AND THE TOOLS THAT THEY USE ON A

1240
00:46:27,151 --> 00:46:30,187
YEARLY BASIS, GOING THROUGH WITH

1241
00:46:30,187 --> 00:46:32,723
OUR OFFICERS, WE HAVE GAS MASK 

1242
00:46:32,723 --> 00:46:33,357
TRAINING THAT'S GOING TO BE 

1243
00:46:33,357 --> 00:46:34,291
COMING UP THAT WE'RE GOING TO 

1244
00:46:34,291 --> 00:46:36,860
HAVE TO USE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF

1245
00:46:36,860 --> 00:46:37,961
TRAININGS THAT PROVIDE IN THERE.

1246
00:46:37,961 --> 00:46:39,763
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAININGS THAT

1247
00:46:39,763 --> 00:46:40,397
OFFICERS GO THROUGHOUT THE STATE

1248
00:46:40,397 --> 00:46:41,198
AND OUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY 

1249
00:46:41,198 --> 00:46:42,633
THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH. WE

1250
00:46:42,633 --> 00:46:45,068
DO HAVE A SYSTEM SET UP FOR THAT

1251
00:46:45,068 --> 00:46:46,637
WHERE OUR 1.5 SYSTEM THAT WE DO 

1252
00:46:46,637 --> 00:46:48,205
LOOK THROUGH WITH A LOT OF THAT.

1253
00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:50,073
SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAININGS 

1254
00:46:50,073 --> 00:46:50,908
THAT WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE TO GO 

1255
00:46:50,908 --> 00:46:55,245
THROUGH YEARLY TO TRAIN THE 929 

1256
00:46:55,245 --> 00:46:57,080
DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE

1257
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,016
CURRENTLY, AND HOPEFULLY MOVING 

1258
00:46:59,016 --> 00:47:01,552
FORWARD MORE WITH THAT. DOES 

1259
00:47:01,552 --> 00:47:01,952
THAT ANSWER THAT? 

1260
00:47:01,952 --> 00:47:03,420
-- COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

1261
00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:04,988
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR STRAUSS A 

1262
00:47:04,988 --> 00:47:05,589
QUICK FOLLOW UP JUST TO THIS 

1263
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:08,458
POINT, THANK YOU FOR UNPACKING 

1264
00:47:08,458 --> 00:47:11,595
THAT PIECE ON SLIDE SIX. IN THE 

1265
00:47:11,595 --> 00:47:12,996
INFORMATION RELATED TO OVERTIME,

1266
00:47:12,996 --> 00:47:15,465
I'M SEEING HERE THAT THERE'S A

1267
00:47:15,465 --> 00:47:16,667
CHUNK OF OVERTIME SPENDING THAT 

1268
00:47:16,667 --> 00:47:19,836
GOES TOWARDS TRAINING. CAN YOU 

1269
00:47:19,836 --> 00:47:22,072
JUST UNPACK ARE ALL TRAININGS 

1270
00:47:22,072 --> 00:47:22,706
CONDUCTED USING OVERTIME OR IS 

1271
00:47:22,706 --> 00:47:25,709
THERE A PORTION THAT IS WHERE 

1272
00:47:25,709 --> 00:47:26,276
TRAININGS ARE USED THROUGH 

1273
00:47:26,276 --> 00:47:27,277
REGULAR STAFF TIME? 

1274
00:47:27,277 --> 00:47:28,312
-- CHIEF. 

1275
00:47:28,312 --> 00:47:30,180
-- IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE 

1276
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:31,548
OFFICER'S SCHEDULE. WITH SOME 

1277
00:47:31,548 --> 00:47:32,716
OF THE TRAININGS THAT WE HAVE, 

1278
00:47:32,716 --> 00:47:35,586
THEY DO RUN OVER. SO TAKE FOR 

1279
00:47:35,586 --> 00:47:38,088
INSTANCE OUR FIELD TRAINING 

1280
00:47:38,088 --> 00:47:39,423
PROGRAM. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 

1281
00:47:39,423 --> 00:47:41,191
SOMEWHAT OF A BACKLOG IN OUR 

1282
00:47:41,191 --> 00:47:42,392
POST. BAILEY. SO WE HAVE 

1283
00:47:42,392 --> 00:47:43,894
OFFICERS THAT ARE, ARE TRAINERS 

1284
00:47:43,894 --> 00:47:45,963
THAT ARE TRYING TO GET THE 

1285
00:47:45,963 --> 00:47:47,030
STUDENT OFFICERS THROUGH THE 

1286
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:48,999
POST SO THEY CAN GO TO THE FTO 

1287
00:47:48,999 --> 00:47:50,300
PROGRAM. SO TYPICALLY THEY WOULD

1288
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:52,502
WORK ON MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY,

1289
00:47:52,502 --> 00:47:54,171
TEN HOUR SCHEDULE TO TRAIN AND 

1290
00:47:54,171 --> 00:47:55,405
POST BALELA. BUT WITH THE 

1291
00:47:55,405 --> 00:47:56,807
NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY 

1292
00:47:56,807 --> 00:47:59,409
IN THE POST PROGRAM, WHICH I 

1293
00:47:59,409 --> 00:48:01,745
THINK IS 61 RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO

1294
00:48:01,745 --> 00:48:03,146
GET THOSE OFFICERS READY FOR 

1295
00:48:03,146 --> 00:48:07,851
FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS, IT IS 

1296
00:48:07,851 --> 00:48:08,452
INCURRING OVERTIME ON LIKE A 

1297
00:48:08,452 --> 00:48:09,052
FRIDAY OR SATURDAY. SO THOSE 

1298
00:48:09,052 --> 00:48:09,686
OFFICERS THAT ARE TRAINERS ARE 

1299
00:48:09,686 --> 00:48:11,088
COMING IN ON THEIR OFF DAYS TO 

1300
00:48:11,088 --> 00:48:15,959
TRAIN. SO THAT'S CREATING SOME 

1301
00:48:15,959 --> 00:48:16,326
OF THE OVERTIME 

1302
00:48:16,326 --> 00:48:16,827
-- COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

1303
00:48:16,827 --> 00:48:18,729
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR STRAUSS. 

1304
00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:20,264
THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. I'M 

1305
00:48:20,264 --> 00:48:24,301
GOING TO KEEP US MOVING AND ALSO

1306
00:48:24,301 --> 00:48:26,470
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE IN THE 

1307
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:29,106
AFTERMATH OF A RECENT INCIDENT, 

1308
00:48:29,106 --> 00:48:31,408
PARTICULARLY USE OF LETHAL FORCE

1309
00:48:31,408 --> 00:48:34,911
IN A CASE WHERE A WOMAN WAS SHOT

1310
00:48:34,911 --> 00:48:37,080
BY AN SPD OFFICER IN BEACON 

1311
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,383
HILL. THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE THAT 

1312
00:48:39,383 --> 00:48:41,151
WAS RELEASED BY THE DEPARTMENT, 

1313
00:48:41,151 --> 00:48:43,120
THERE WAS AN EXACT QUOTE FROM 

1314
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,389
THE OFFICER WHO WAS OUTSIDE THE 

1315
00:48:45,389 --> 00:48:47,724
DOOR OF THE INCIDENT, ASKING, DO

1316
00:48:47,724 --> 00:48:49,826
WE HAVE LESS LETHAL OR TASER? 

1317
00:48:49,826 --> 00:48:52,929
THE OFF SCREEN OFFICER ANSWERED,

1318
00:48:52,929 --> 00:48:55,966
YES, AND YET LETHAL FORCE WAS 

1319
00:48:55,966 --> 00:48:57,367
USED. THERE'S A $4 MILLION 

1320
00:48:57,367 --> 00:48:59,236
INCREASE IN THE SPECIAL 

1321
00:48:59,236 --> 00:49:00,037
OPERATIONS BUCKET OF THE SPD 

1322
00:49:00,037 --> 00:49:01,638
BUDGET, AND IT'S MY 

1323
00:49:01,638 --> 00:49:03,040
UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS THE 

1324
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,408
BUDGET THAT WOULD PROVIDE CROWD 

1325
00:49:04,408 --> 00:49:06,143
CONTROL, SPECIAL EVENT AND 

1326
00:49:06,143 --> 00:49:09,112
CRISIS SUPPORT FOR SPD. SO COULD

1327
00:49:09,112 --> 00:49:10,714
THE TABLE, WHOEVER IS MOST 

1328
00:49:10,714 --> 00:49:12,883
APPROPRIATE AT THE TABLE, PLEASE

1329
00:49:12,883 --> 00:49:16,019
TELL ME WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE 

1330
00:49:16,019 --> 00:49:16,653
SUFFICIENT LESS LETHAL EQUIPMENT

1331
00:49:16,653 --> 00:49:18,055
FOR ALL CALL RESPONDERS, PATROL 

1332
00:49:18,055 --> 00:49:20,190
AND SWAT. 

1333
00:49:20,190 --> 00:49:21,224
-- CHIEF. 

1334
00:49:21,224 --> 00:49:23,593
-- I DID CHECK THIS WEEK, WORKED

1335
00:49:23,593 --> 00:49:25,262
WITH DEPUTY CHIEF YVONNE 

1336
00:49:25,262 --> 00:49:25,862
UNDERWOOD IN REGARDS TO THIS, 

1337
00:49:25,862 --> 00:49:27,698
AND WE DO HAVE SUFFICIENT 

1338
00:49:27,698 --> 00:49:30,100
EQUIPMENT FOR OUR OFFICERS. I 

1339
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:31,468
WOULD LIKE TO SAY MORE, BUT 

1340
00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:33,570
UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THIS CASE 

1341
00:49:33,570 --> 00:49:35,539
BEING WITH THE KING COUNTY, I'M

1342
00:49:35,539 --> 00:49:36,540
LIMITED TO WHAT I CAN GO INTO 

1343
00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:38,709
ANY FURTHER DETAILS IN REGARDS 

1344
00:49:38,709 --> 00:49:40,978
TO THAT CASE. 

1345
00:49:40,978 --> 00:49:42,512
-- THANK YOU. 

1346
00:49:42,512 --> 00:49:43,714
-- COUNCILMEMBER RINCK THANK 

1347
00:49:43,714 --> 00:49:45,115
YOU. UNDERSTANDING LIMITED 

1348
00:49:45,115 --> 00:49:46,550
ABILITY TO SPEAK TO THIS 

1349
00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:47,951
PARTICULAR CASE AT THIS TIME. 

1350
00:49:47,951 --> 00:49:50,187
JUST A FOLLOW UP FOR THE PURPOSE

1351
00:49:50,187 --> 00:49:52,689
OF CLARIFICATION AND HAPPY TO 

1352
00:49:52,689 --> 00:49:54,791
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION 

1353
00:49:54,791 --> 00:49:55,392
OFFLINE. IF THIS INFORMATION 

1354
00:49:55,392 --> 00:49:56,026
ISN'T AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. 

1355
00:49:56,026 --> 00:49:56,593
BUT I DO WANT TO GET THIS 

1356
00:49:56,593 --> 00:49:59,229
QUESTION ON THE RECORD. IS SPD 

1357
00:49:59,229 --> 00:50:01,198
ABLE TO SEND AND DEPLOY OFFICERS

1358
00:50:01,198 --> 00:50:02,265
AND ENSURE THAT EACH ONE OF THEM

1359
00:50:02,265 --> 00:50:04,501
IS EQUIPPED WITH A TASER AND TO 

1360
00:50:04,501 --> 00:50:06,770
ENSURE ADEQUATE, LESS LETHAL 

1361
00:50:06,770 --> 00:50:07,037
RESPONSE. 

1362
00:50:07,037 --> 00:50:08,972
-- JUST TO GET AN ACCURATE 

1363
00:50:08,972 --> 00:50:10,140
RESPONSE FOR YOU, I WOULD HAVE 

1364
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:11,742
TO ASK OUR TRAINERS AND THEN WE 

1365
00:50:11,742 --> 00:50:14,845
CAN DO AN AUDIT TO ASSURE THAT 

1366
00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,179
THE NUMBERS AND THE RESPONSE 

1367
00:50:16,179 --> 00:50:17,214
I'M GIVING YOU IS ACCURATE. I 

1368
00:50:17,214 --> 00:50:19,516
DON'T WANT TO GIVE 

1369
00:50:19,516 --> 00:50:19,883
MISINFORMATION. 

1370
00:50:19,883 --> 00:50:21,184
-- THANK YOU. I LOOK FORWARD TO 

1371
00:50:21,184 --> 00:50:24,421
THAT FOLLOW UP THIS COUNCIL HAS 

1372
00:50:24,421 --> 00:50:26,690
HAD ROBUST DISCUSSION ON CROWD 

1373
00:50:26,690 --> 00:50:29,426
MANAGEMENT TRAINING, AND I'M 

1374
00:50:29,426 --> 00:50:30,727
SEEKING SOME CLARIFICATION ON 

1375
00:50:30,727 --> 00:50:32,662
ONE POINT BECAUSE IN 2027, CROWD

1376
00:50:32,662 --> 00:50:34,431
MANAGEMENT TRAININGS WILL 

1377
00:50:34,431 --> 00:50:36,566
CONSIST OF POLICY REVIEWS, SQUAD

1378
00:50:36,566 --> 00:50:38,602
FORMATIONS AND BATON USAGE. ARE 

1379
00:50:38,602 --> 00:50:39,703
THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES AT ALL 

1380
00:50:39,703 --> 00:50:41,038
FOR LIVE TRAININGS, ROLE PLAY, 

1381
00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:42,272
AND TO ENSURE THAT SWORN STAFF 

1382
00:50:42,272 --> 00:50:46,109
ARE UTILIZING ALL CMEK POLICIES?

1383
00:50:46,109 --> 00:50:48,378
-- YES, ACTUALLY, LEADING UP TO 

1384
00:50:48,378 --> 00:50:50,080
FIFA THIS YEAR, WE DID DO SOME 

1385
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,381
LIVE TRAINING, SO I'M NOT SURE 

1386
00:50:51,381 --> 00:50:53,583
WHY THAT WASN'T PUT IN THERE. 

1387
00:50:53,583 --> 00:50:54,918
OUR OFFICERS DID DO SOME 

1388
00:50:54,918 --> 00:50:56,286
TRAINING DOWN AT LUMEN FIELD IN 

1389
00:50:56,286 --> 00:50:56,887
REGARDS TO CROWD CONTROL AND 

1390
00:50:56,887 --> 00:50:59,623
CROWD MANAGEMENT. 

1391
00:50:59,623 --> 00:51:00,490
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK 

1392
00:51:00,490 --> 00:51:02,025
YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE. AND 

1393
00:51:02,025 --> 00:51:04,961
BUILDING ON THAT POINT, WHAT IS 

1394
00:51:04,961 --> 00:51:06,530
SP DOING TO PARDON ME? WHAT IS 

1395
00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:08,231
SPD DOING TO ENSURE THAT SWORN 

1396
00:51:08,231 --> 00:51:10,400
OFFICERS THROUGH THESE TRAININGS

1397
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,034
ARE COMPREHENDING AND UTILIZING 

1398
00:51:11,034 --> 00:51:12,068
LESS LETHAL OPTIONS WHEN 

1399
00:51:12,068 --> 00:51:14,137
ENCOUNTERED WITH SITUATIONS 

1400
00:51:14,137 --> 00:51:17,307
WHERE THEY ARE ENCOUNTERING 

1401
00:51:17,307 --> 00:51:17,908
INDIVIDUALS WITH NON-FIREARM 

1402
00:51:17,908 --> 00:51:19,443
MATERIALS. 

1403
00:51:19,443 --> 00:51:21,144
-- SCENARIO BASED TRAINING? YES.

1404
00:51:21,144 --> 00:51:23,713
AND OUR OUR INSTRUCTORS ARE 

1405
00:51:23,713 --> 00:51:24,281
PUTTING PEOPLE THROUGH LIVE 

1406
00:51:24,281 --> 00:51:26,516
SITUATIONS. I KNOW WE DO A GOOD 

1407
00:51:26,516 --> 00:51:27,117
JOB OF LOOKING THROUGHOUT THE 

1408
00:51:27,117 --> 00:51:29,152
COUNTRY TO SEE SOME SCENARIOS 

1409
00:51:29,152 --> 00:51:31,021
THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN DIFFERENT 

1410
00:51:31,021 --> 00:51:32,322
AREAS AND DIFFERENT REGIONS, AND

1411
00:51:32,322 --> 00:51:34,157
WE PROVIDE SCENARIO BASED 

1412
00:51:34,157 --> 00:51:35,659
TRAINING ON A PASS FAIL. AND IF 

1413
00:51:35,659 --> 00:51:37,194
THE OFFICERS ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL,

1414
00:51:37,194 --> 00:51:38,728
THEY'RE PUT THROUGH A REMEDIAL 

1415
00:51:38,728 --> 00:51:40,430
IN REGARDS TO THAT TRAINING. AND

1416
00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:41,932
WE'RE ASSURING THAT THEY'RE 

1417
00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:43,400
USING THE APPROPRIATE EQUIPMENT 

1418
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,936
THAT WE GIVE TO THEM AND THEIR 

1419
00:51:45,936 --> 00:51:46,470
APPROPRIATE DE-ESCALATION 

1420
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:48,138
TACTICS 

1421
00:51:48,138 --> 00:51:49,906
-- THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO 

1422
00:51:49,906 --> 00:51:51,541
CHANGE TOPICS TO TAKE US TO 

1423
00:51:51,541 --> 00:51:55,745
OVERTIME. SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE

1424
00:51:55,745 --> 00:51:56,947
OVERTIME SLIDE, WHICH I BELIEVE 

1425
00:51:56,947 --> 00:51:59,683
IS SLIDE SIX, THAT WOULD BE 

1426
00:51:59,683 --> 00:52:02,085
HELPFUL. I'M SEEING WE HAVE A 

1427
00:52:02,085 --> 00:52:04,488
PROPOSED OVERTIME BUDGET OF $62 

1428
00:52:04,488 --> 00:52:06,022
MILLION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING,

1429
00:52:06,022 --> 00:52:08,391
BASED ON PREVIOUS PRESENTATION 

1430
00:52:08,391 --> 00:52:10,060
FOR THAT, OUR CENTRAL STAFF GAVE

1431
00:52:10,060 --> 00:52:11,128
IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE 

1432
00:52:11,128 --> 00:52:13,263
THIS YEAR. THAT WAS ON JUNE 

1433
00:52:13,263 --> 00:52:16,600
23rd. THAT SPD, OVER TIME HAS 

1434
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,536
INCREASED OVER 29 MILLION SINCE 

1435
00:52:19,536 --> 00:52:22,706
2022, WHICH IS A 112% INCREASE. 

1436
00:52:22,706 --> 00:52:24,574
NOW, TAKING A LOOK AT THIS 

1437
00:52:24,574 --> 00:52:26,143
YEAR'S NUMBERS, AM I CORRECT IN

1438
00:52:26,143 --> 00:52:28,645
MY ASSESSMENT THAT THIS MEANS 

1439
00:52:28,645 --> 00:52:30,013
THAT SINCE 2022, WE ARE LOOKING 

1440
00:52:30,013 --> 00:52:33,383
AT, IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, A 

1441
00:52:33,383 --> 00:52:36,486
138% INCREASE IN SPD'S OVERTIME

1442
00:52:36,486 --> 00:52:41,558
BUDGET 

1443
00:52:41,558 --> 00:52:43,360
-- I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORICAL 

1444
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:43,960
INFORMATION AT MY FINGERTIPS. 

1445
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,829
I'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP AND 

1446
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:47,597
ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I WILL. I 

1447
00:52:47,597 --> 00:52:52,536
DO THINK THAT. SLIDE FIVE TELLS 

1448
00:52:52,536 --> 00:52:54,838
SOME OF THAT STORY, WHICH IS 

1449
00:52:54,838 --> 00:52:55,572
THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. 

1450
00:52:55,572 --> 00:52:57,374
WELL, I THINK I RECOMMEND 

1451
00:52:57,374 --> 00:52:58,875
LOOKING AT IT FROM BOTH THE 

1452
00:52:58,875 --> 00:53:00,744
PERSPECTIVE OF THE DOLLARS THAT 

1453
00:53:00,744 --> 00:53:02,812
ARE BEING SPENT AND WHAT THOSE 

1454
00:53:02,812 --> 00:53:04,080
DOLLARS PURCHASE IN TERMS OF THE

1455
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,450
NUMBER OF HOURS THAT ARE FUNDED,

1456
00:53:07,450 --> 00:53:09,252
AT LEAST IN THE IN THE TIME 

1457
00:53:09,252 --> 00:53:11,688
FRAME THAT'S LOOKED AT IN THIS 

1458
00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:15,926
SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT 2026 TO 

1459
00:53:15,926 --> 00:53:19,696
2027. THERE'S IT COSTS A GREAT 

1460
00:53:19,696 --> 00:53:21,798
DEAL MORE TO FUND THE SAME 

1461
00:53:21,798 --> 00:53:23,166
NUMBER OF HOURS. SO THE BUDGET 

1462
00:53:23,166 --> 00:53:25,035
WENT UP. BUT THE FUNDED HOURS 

1463
00:53:25,035 --> 00:53:28,538
STAYED THE SAME. AND THAT'S 

1464
00:53:28,538 --> 00:53:29,072
BECAUSE LABOR COSTS HAVE 

1465
00:53:29,072 --> 00:53:31,141
INCREASED THE COST PER HOUR OF 

1466
00:53:31,141 --> 00:53:33,643
OVERTIME HAS INCREASED EVEN AS 

1467
00:53:33,643 --> 00:53:36,646
THE SAME NUMBER OF HOURS ARE 

1468
00:53:36,646 --> 00:53:36,880
FUNDED. 

1469
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,949
-- THANK YOU FOR IMPACTING THAT.

1470
00:53:38,949 --> 00:53:40,917
DIRECTOR PETER. I HAVE TWO 

1471
00:53:40,917 --> 00:53:42,352
ADDITIONAL QUICK QUESTIONS AND 

1472
00:53:42,352 --> 00:53:43,987
HOPING THAT THESE HAVE SHORT 

1473
00:53:43,987 --> 00:53:45,956
ANSWERS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. 

1474
00:53:45,956 --> 00:53:49,092
COULD WE GET A BREAKDOWN OF THE 

1475
00:53:49,092 --> 00:53:49,693
TECHNICAL SERVICES PORTION OF 

1476
00:53:49,693 --> 00:53:52,796
SPD'S BUDGET? I'M NOTING THAT 

1477
00:53:52,796 --> 00:53:54,531
THIS 34 MILLION OF TECHNICAL 

1478
00:53:54,531 --> 00:53:55,131
SUPPORT INCLUDES DATA DRIVEN 

1479
00:53:55,131 --> 00:53:57,500
POLICING AND TECHNOLOGY 

1480
00:53:57,500 --> 00:53:58,868
PROGRAMS. I'M CURIOUS HOW MUCH 

1481
00:53:58,868 --> 00:54:01,571
OF THIS IS GOING TOWARDS THE TCC

1482
00:54:01,571 --> 00:54:03,840
AND CCTV PROGRAMS. I'D LIKE THE

1483
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,841
NUMBER OF HOW MUCH THIS PROGRAM 

1484
00:54:04,841 --> 00:54:10,680
IS CURRENTLY COSTING THE CITY ON

1485
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,047
A YEARLY BASIS. 

1486
00:54:11,047 --> 00:54:13,516
-- DIRECTOR CHIEF MINISTER, I'D.

1487
00:54:13,516 --> 00:54:15,418
-- BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH 

1488
00:54:15,418 --> 00:54:15,819
THAT INFORMATION. 

1489
00:54:15,819 --> 00:54:16,186
-- THANK YOU. 

1490
00:54:16,186 --> 00:54:17,454
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND MY LAST

1491
00:54:17,454 --> 00:54:18,989
QUESTION FOR TODAY. AND THANK 

1492
00:54:18,989 --> 00:54:21,391
YOU FOR INDULGING ME. I'M SEEING

1493
00:54:21,391 --> 00:54:23,159
THE REDUCTION OF 2.4 MILLION IN 

1494
00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:25,729
RECRUITMENT, MARKETING AND 

1495
00:54:25,729 --> 00:54:26,596
PAUSING HIRING INCENTIVES. JUST 

1496
00:54:26,596 --> 00:54:27,464
TO BE CLEAR ON THE RECORD, HOW 

1497
00:54:27,464 --> 00:54:29,432
MUCH MONEY IN RECRUITMENT AND 

1498
00:54:29,432 --> 00:54:30,433
MARKETING IS IN THE MAYOR'S 

1499
00:54:30,433 --> 00:54:36,206
BUDGET FOR SPD AFTER THIS 

1500
00:54:36,206 --> 00:54:36,640
PROPOSED REDUCTION. 

1501
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,574
-- UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T SEE 

1502
00:54:37,574 --> 00:54:45,415
THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE. THERE 

1503
00:54:45,415 --> 00:54:46,016
IS $2.893 MILLION FOR 

1504
00:54:46,016 --> 00:54:48,785
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION IN THE

1505
00:54:48,785 --> 00:54:54,524
27 PROPOSED BUDGET, AND $1.786 

1506
00:54:54,524 --> 00:54:59,929
MILLION IN 2028. PROPOSED. 

1507
00:54:59,929 --> 00:55:00,530
-- THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. THANK 

1508
00:55:00,530 --> 00:55:01,331
YOU, CHAIR. I APPRECIATE YOUR 

1509
00:55:01,331 --> 00:55:02,399
RESPONSES, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

1510
00:55:02,399 --> 00:55:03,466
THOSE FOLLOW UPS. THANK YOU. 

1511
00:55:03,466 --> 00:55:04,801
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

1512
00:55:04,801 --> 00:55:06,102
RINCK. WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER 

1513
00:55:06,102 --> 00:55:08,304
LIN. AND THEN I SAW ANOTHER 

1514
00:55:08,304 --> 00:55:10,907
HAND, BUT NO LONGER. 

1515
00:55:10,907 --> 00:55:11,341
COUNCILMEMBER LIN. 

1516
00:55:11,341 --> 00:55:12,809
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU 

1517
00:55:12,809 --> 00:55:15,712
TO OUR PRESENTERS AND 

1518
00:55:15,712 --> 00:55:18,782
COLLEAGUES. SORT OF A EASIER 

1519
00:55:18,782 --> 00:55:21,818
QUICK QUESTION. THE THE FIRING 

1520
00:55:21,818 --> 00:55:23,953
RANGE OR THE GUN RANGE, WHICH IS

1521
00:55:23,953 --> 00:55:26,256
TUKWILA ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET 

1522
00:55:26,256 --> 00:55:29,793
THAT COULD HELP ADDRESS NOISE 

1523
00:55:29,793 --> 00:55:31,528
MITIGATION CONCERNS. WE HEAR A 

1524
00:55:31,528 --> 00:55:33,663
LOT FROM FOLKS IN RAINIER BEACH 

1525
00:55:33,663 --> 00:55:36,433
WHO, DUE TO THE ONGOING, YOU 

1526
00:55:36,433 --> 00:55:38,201
KNOW, GUN VIOLENCE DOWN THERE, 

1527
00:55:38,201 --> 00:55:40,603
HEAR THE FIRING RANGE, CAN'T IT

1528
00:55:40,603 --> 00:55:42,405
CAN BE TRAUMATIC. SO JUST 

1529
00:55:42,405 --> 00:55:44,607
WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN

1530
00:55:44,607 --> 00:55:46,776
HERE THAT COULD HELP TO ADDRESS 

1531
00:55:46,776 --> 00:55:49,646
THOSE NOISE CONCERNS. 

1532
00:55:49,646 --> 00:55:51,147
-- CHIEF COMMITTEE TABLE. 

1533
00:55:51,147 --> 00:55:52,148
-- LOOKING THROUGH THE BUDGET, I

1534
00:55:52,148 --> 00:55:53,516
DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING 

1535
00:55:53,516 --> 00:55:55,719
IN THERE CURRENTLY FOR THE 

1536
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,921
SUPPRESSION OF THOSE SOUNDS 

1537
00:55:57,921 --> 00:56:00,223
AFFECTING THE SOUTH PRECINCT 

1538
00:56:00,223 --> 00:56:01,624
AREA, PARTICULARLY RAINIER 

1539
00:56:01,624 --> 00:56:01,858
BEACH. 

1540
00:56:01,858 --> 00:56:03,026
-- YEAH, OKAY. 

1541
00:56:03,026 --> 00:56:05,895
-- I CAN BACK THAT UP. THAT'S 

1542
00:56:05,895 --> 00:56:06,162
CORRECT. 

1543
00:56:06,162 --> 00:56:09,099
-- OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. 

1544
00:56:09,099 --> 00:56:11,434
CERTAINLY IS A PRIORITY FOR FOR 

1545
00:56:11,434 --> 00:56:12,635
MY DISTRICT TO TO BE ABLE TO 

1546
00:56:12,635 --> 00:56:15,238
ADDRESS THAT. SO LOOK FORWARD TO

1547
00:56:15,238 --> 00:56:17,040
FOLLOWING UP ON IF THERE'S ANY 

1548
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,176
WAY WE CAN GET THAT IN THERE. I 

1549
00:56:20,176 --> 00:56:24,214
GUESS THINKING ABOUT HIRING. AND

1550
00:56:24,214 --> 00:56:26,616
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TARGETS AND 

1551
00:56:26,616 --> 00:56:28,551
GOALS IN TERMS OF OUR NUMBERS, 

1552
00:56:28,551 --> 00:56:32,088
BUT JUST FROM A BIG PICTURE 

1553
00:56:32,088 --> 00:56:35,225
PERSPECTIVE, AS WE THINK ABOUT 

1554
00:56:35,225 --> 00:56:38,061
PUBLIC SAFETY MORE GENERALLY, 

1555
00:56:38,061 --> 00:56:40,029
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A 

1556
00:56:40,029 --> 00:56:42,665
MINIMUM AND AN IDEAL STAFFING 

1557
00:56:42,665 --> 00:56:45,201
LEVEL. I GUESS MY ONE OF MY 

1558
00:56:45,201 --> 00:56:48,138
QUESTIONS IS, HOW DO WE COMPARE 

1559
00:56:48,138 --> 00:56:50,607
TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN OUR 

1560
00:56:50,607 --> 00:56:53,643
SPENDING, WHETHER IT'S ITS 

1561
00:56:53,643 --> 00:56:54,277
POLICE DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY 

1562
00:56:54,277 --> 00:56:58,548
OR PUBLIC SAFETY MORE GENERALLY,

1563
00:56:58,548 --> 00:57:00,283
AND BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, HEAR 

1564
00:57:00,283 --> 00:57:02,786
COMPARISONS TO EXAMPLE, TO 

1565
00:57:02,786 --> 00:57:06,222
BOSTON THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND 

1566
00:57:06,222 --> 00:57:07,590
A LOT MORE PER OFFICER. AND I'M

1567
00:57:07,590 --> 00:57:08,625
JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT SURE IF 

1568
00:57:08,625 --> 00:57:09,893
THAT'S TRUE OR IF THERE'S A 

1569
00:57:09,893 --> 00:57:12,896
REASON FOR THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, 

1570
00:57:12,896 --> 00:57:13,563
THERE'S THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS,

1571
00:57:13,563 --> 00:57:15,899
BUT THEN THERE'S JUST SORT OF 

1572
00:57:15,899 --> 00:57:17,600
THE BUDGET. CAN CAN YOU SPEAK TO

1573
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,370
THAT GENERALLY? OR WE CAN DO 

1574
00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:20,804
THIS OFFLINE LATER. 

1575
00:57:20,804 --> 00:57:22,605
-- DIRECTOR CHIEF., 

1576
00:57:22,605 --> 00:57:24,808
-- TO MAKE THE COMPARISON IN 

1577
00:57:24,808 --> 00:57:26,042
REGARDS TO BOSTON, I THINK 

1578
00:57:26,042 --> 00:57:26,709
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE 

1579
00:57:26,709 --> 00:57:28,411
BIT OF TIME TO LOOK AT THAT. 

1580
00:57:28,411 --> 00:57:29,145
JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT

1581
00:57:29,145 --> 00:57:30,647
WHERE YOU'RE AT IN THE REGION, 

1582
00:57:30,647 --> 00:57:32,582
COST OF LIVING AND SO FORTH. BUT

1583
00:57:32,582 --> 00:57:34,984
I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS 

1584
00:57:34,984 --> 00:57:37,620
PUTTING EYES ON WHAT'S HAPPENING

1585
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:39,622
HERE REGIONALLY AND TRYING TO BE

1586
00:57:39,622 --> 00:57:42,258
COMPETITIVE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS 

1587
00:57:42,258 --> 00:57:44,994
AND REMOVING THE INCENTIVES 

1588
00:57:44,994 --> 00:57:47,197
SPECIFICALLY FOR LATERAL 

1589
00:57:47,197 --> 00:57:50,967
OFFICERS HAS A POTENTIAL TO PUT 

1590
00:57:50,967 --> 00:57:52,268
US BEHIND. AND WE'RE COMPETING 

1591
00:57:52,268 --> 00:57:54,771
FROM A VERY SMALL POOL OF 

1592
00:57:54,771 --> 00:57:56,272
CANDIDATES IN THIS AREA. SO WE 

1593
00:57:56,272 --> 00:57:57,807
HAVE TO BE AS COMPETITIVE AS WE 

1594
00:57:57,807 --> 00:58:00,476
POSSIBLY CAN. AND I'M LOOKING 

1595
00:58:00,476 --> 00:58:03,513
FORWARD TO LOOKING AT WAYS HOW 

1596
00:58:03,513 --> 00:58:03,980
WE CAN CONTINUE THAT, 

1597
00:58:03,980 --> 00:58:06,382
SPECIFICALLY FOR LATERAL HIRES. 

1598
00:58:06,382 --> 00:58:08,585
-- YEAH. THANK YOU. AND I 

1599
00:58:08,585 --> 00:58:11,087
CERTAINLY BE INTERESTED IF 

1600
00:58:11,087 --> 00:58:12,222
OBVIOUSLY SALARIES AND HIRING 

1601
00:58:12,222 --> 00:58:13,523
BONUSES AND SO ON ARE ONE WAY TO

1602
00:58:13,523 --> 00:58:14,958
BE COMPETITIVE. CERTAINLY WOULD 

1603
00:58:14,958 --> 00:58:16,526
BE CURIOUS IF THERE'S OTHER WAYS

1604
00:58:16,526 --> 00:58:19,362
THAT WE CAN ALSO EXPLORE TO BE 

1605
00:58:19,362 --> 00:58:23,733
COMPETITIVE AS A REGION. KIND OF

1606
00:58:23,733 --> 00:58:25,001
FINAL QUESTION. YOU KNOW, WE 

1607
00:58:25,001 --> 00:58:27,203
OFTEN TALK ABOUT SORT OF 

1608
00:58:27,203 --> 00:58:29,539
OUTCOMES BASED SORT OF 

1609
00:58:29,539 --> 00:58:30,306
BUDGETING. AND I'M JUST 

1610
00:58:30,306 --> 00:58:33,109
WONDERING FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY 

1611
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:36,579
PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I 

1612
00:58:36,579 --> 00:58:39,449
DO THINK WE NEED MORE OFFICERS, 

1613
00:58:39,449 --> 00:58:42,185
BUT MY BIGGER CONCERN IS THE 

1614
00:58:42,185 --> 00:58:43,419
OUTCOMES. YOU KNOW, WE 

1615
00:58:43,419 --> 00:58:45,655
ESPECIALLY REPRESENTING DISTRICT

1616
00:58:45,655 --> 00:58:46,356
TWO SOUTH SEATTLE, WHERE WE HAVE

1617
00:58:46,356 --> 00:58:49,759
SOME OF THE MOST INTENSE ISSUES 

1618
00:58:49,759 --> 00:58:51,928
IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, 

1619
00:58:51,928 --> 00:58:53,463
WHETHER IT'S GUN VIOLENCE IN 

1620
00:58:53,463 --> 00:58:55,431
MANY AREAS OF THE DISTRICT, 

1621
00:58:55,431 --> 00:58:57,200
WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE 

1622
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,668
OPEN AIR DRUG MARKETS AND OTHER 

1623
00:58:58,668 --> 00:59:00,637
SORT OF PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES. 

1624
00:59:00,637 --> 00:59:02,405
AND LITTLE SAIGON, NORTH BEACON 

1625
00:59:02,405 --> 00:59:06,743
HILL, NORTH RAINIER. FOR ME, 

1626
00:59:06,743 --> 00:59:08,745
I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING

1627
00:59:08,745 --> 00:59:10,413
A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO 

1628
00:59:10,413 --> 00:59:12,715
PUBLIC SAFETY, THINKING ABOUT 

1629
00:59:12,715 --> 00:59:13,349
COLLABORATION BETWEEN DIFFERENT 

1630
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:16,119
DEPARTMENTS, THE CARE 

1631
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:17,754
DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, STANDING 

1632
00:59:17,754 --> 00:59:20,757
UP OUR OUR SHELTER AND 

1633
00:59:20,757 --> 00:59:24,093
COLLABORATING WITH KING COUNTY 

1634
00:59:24,093 --> 00:59:27,096
JAIL AND, YOU KNOW, THE COURTS. 

1635
00:59:27,096 --> 00:59:30,667
BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN,

1636
00:59:30,667 --> 00:59:32,502
LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET FOR SPD, 

1637
00:59:32,502 --> 00:59:34,504
BUT ALSO JUST WONDERING FROM AN 

1638
00:59:34,504 --> 00:59:35,138
OUTCOMES BASED PERSPECTIVE, IS 

1639
00:59:35,138 --> 00:59:38,107
THERE SORT OF A STRATEGY, A 

1640
00:59:38,107 --> 00:59:39,475
TARGETED WAY THAT WE CAN GET 

1641
00:59:39,475 --> 00:59:41,911
BETTER OUTCOMES WITH OUR 

1642
00:59:41,911 --> 00:59:42,178
SPENDING? 

1643
00:59:42,178 --> 00:59:43,479
-- I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST 

1644
00:59:43,479 --> 00:59:45,248
THINGS OVER THE LAST 8 TO 9 

1645
00:59:45,248 --> 00:59:48,851
WEEKS IS BEING COLLABORATIVE 

1646
00:59:48,851 --> 00:59:49,519
WITH OUR INTERNAL PARTNERS HERE 

1647
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:51,454
AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE. EVERYONE

1648
00:59:51,454 --> 00:59:53,556
COMING TO THE TABLE TALKING 

1649
00:59:53,556 --> 00:59:55,291
ABOUT THE RESOURCES THAT WE 

1650
00:59:55,291 --> 00:59:56,793
HAVE, UNDERSTANDING THAT LAW 

1651
00:59:56,793 --> 00:59:59,095
ENFORCEMENT IS NOT JUST ONLY THE

1652
00:59:59,095 --> 01:00:00,797
POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT WORKING 

1653
01:00:00,797 --> 01:00:03,132
WITH OUR CARE, WORKING WITH 

1654
01:00:03,132 --> 01:00:04,267
OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE, 

1655
01:00:04,267 --> 01:00:05,635
WORKING WITH THE KING COUNTY 

1656
01:00:05,635 --> 01:00:07,937
SHERIFF'S OFFICE, POOLING OUR 

1657
01:00:07,937 --> 01:00:08,504
RESOURCES TOGETHER, COMING 

1658
01:00:08,504 --> 01:00:09,872
TOGETHER, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT

1659
01:00:09,872 --> 01:00:11,741
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHOSE NAME IS

1660
01:00:11,741 --> 01:00:12,342
IN THE HEADLINE, AS LONG AS 

1661
01:00:12,342 --> 01:00:13,443
WE'RE GETTING THE JOB DONE FOR 

1662
01:00:13,443 --> 01:00:15,345
THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF SEATTLE

1663
01:00:15,345 --> 01:00:16,913
AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE 

1664
01:00:16,913 --> 01:00:19,649
PROVIDING THAT SECURITY AND 

1665
01:00:19,649 --> 01:00:21,551
SAFETY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF 

1666
01:00:21,551 --> 01:00:22,151
SEATTLE AND OUR TOURISTS THAT 

1667
01:00:22,151 --> 01:00:25,054
COME IN AND VISIT ON A DAILY 

1668
01:00:25,054 --> 01:00:25,288
BASIS. 

1669
01:00:25,288 --> 01:00:27,056
-- THANK YOU DIRECTOR. 

1670
01:00:27,056 --> 01:00:29,025
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR STRAUSS 

1671
01:00:29,025 --> 01:00:30,259
COUNCILMEMBER LIN. I JUST WANT 

1672
01:00:30,259 --> 01:00:32,829
TO ADD TO THAT THAT THAT IS THE 

1673
01:00:32,829 --> 01:00:33,930
WORK THAT WE ARE HOPING TO 

1674
01:00:33,930 --> 01:00:35,131
UNDERTAKE. IF WE CAN GET OUT OF 

1675
01:00:35,131 --> 01:00:37,000
THIS KIND OF TRIAGE, BUDGETING 

1676
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,102
APPROACH AND FOCUS MORE ON 

1677
01:00:39,102 --> 01:00:42,338
OUTCOMES AND REALLY JUST WANT TO

1678
01:00:42,338 --> 01:00:43,773
EMPHASIZE THAT PART OF LOOKING 

1679
01:00:43,773 --> 01:00:44,974
AT THE OUTCOMES, WE REALLY ARE 

1680
01:00:44,974 --> 01:00:47,844
LOOKING AT A COMPREHENSIVE 

1681
01:00:47,844 --> 01:00:48,945
APPROACH TO PUBLIC SAFETY. AND 

1682
01:00:48,945 --> 01:00:51,114
SO THAT INCLUDES, OF COURSE, 

1683
01:00:51,114 --> 01:00:53,516
IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS IN LAW 

1684
01:00:53,516 --> 01:00:54,584
ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES. AND, YOU 

1685
01:00:54,584 --> 01:00:55,985
KNOW, FOCUS ON THAT FOR THE 

1686
01:00:55,985 --> 01:00:57,920
PEOPLE AND PLACES EXPERIENCING 

1687
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,421
THE GREATEST THREATS OF 

1688
01:00:58,421 --> 01:00:59,956
VIOLENCE, AS WELL AS INVESTING 

1689
01:00:59,956 --> 01:01:01,824
IN THE UPSTREAM SERVICES AND 

1690
01:01:01,824 --> 01:01:03,092
COMMUNITY PARTNERS. SO WE REALLY

1691
01:01:03,092 --> 01:01:04,994
NEED TO LOOK, LOOK AT THE ENTIRE

1692
01:01:04,994 --> 01:01:06,529
SYSTEM. AND I THINK PART OF THE 

1693
01:01:06,529 --> 01:01:07,730
OUTCOME IS IDEALLY, WE CAN 

1694
01:01:07,730 --> 01:01:10,800
PREVENT THE CRISES BEFORE THEY 

1695
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,702
OCCUR. AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE 

1696
01:01:12,702 --> 01:01:13,369
LOOKING AT THAT COMPREHENSIVE 

1697
01:01:13,369 --> 01:01:16,072
SYSTEM. AND THAT IS THE THE PART

1698
01:01:16,072 --> 01:01:18,574
OF THE GOAL OF THE EFFECTIVE 

1699
01:01:18,574 --> 01:01:19,542
GOVERNMENT IS EXECUTIVE ORDER 

1700
01:01:19,542 --> 01:01:21,844
ISSUED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO 

1701
01:01:21,844 --> 01:01:23,913
TRY TO PIVOT TOWARDS MOVING 

1702
01:01:23,913 --> 01:01:25,014
TOWARDS THAT THAT TYPE OF 

1703
01:01:25,014 --> 01:01:27,784
APPROACH IN FUTURE BUDGET 

1704
01:01:27,784 --> 01:01:28,084
PROCESSES. 

1705
01:01:28,084 --> 01:01:29,352
-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 

1706
01:01:29,352 --> 01:01:30,620
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU 

1707
01:01:30,620 --> 01:01:33,089
KNOW, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TO 

1708
01:01:33,089 --> 01:01:35,124
SUPPORT SORT OF THE WORK OF SPD 

1709
01:01:35,124 --> 01:01:37,693
AND THE OFFICERS AND SUPPORTING 

1710
01:01:37,693 --> 01:01:38,461
THAT COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH. YOU

1711
01:01:38,461 --> 01:01:40,163
KNOW, I KNOW THAT OUR OFFICERS 

1712
01:01:40,163 --> 01:01:41,297
ARE STRETCHED THIN AND HAVE A 

1713
01:01:41,297 --> 01:01:43,132
VERY HARD JOB. AND IF WE CAN 

1714
01:01:43,132 --> 01:01:46,002
WORK COLLABORATIVELY, 

1715
01:01:46,002 --> 01:01:46,569
COLLABORATIVELY TO MEET THE 

1716
01:01:46,569 --> 01:01:48,671
NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO

1717
01:01:48,671 --> 01:01:50,206
TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER 

1718
01:01:50,206 --> 01:01:51,507
FOR THAT HEAVY LIFT THAT OUR 

1719
01:01:51,507 --> 01:01:52,608
OFFICERS ARE DOING. CERTAINLY 

1720
01:01:52,608 --> 01:01:54,777
WANT TO SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU.

1721
01:01:54,777 --> 01:01:55,678
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER LIN 

1722
01:01:55,678 --> 01:01:56,312
COMMITTEE TABLE. ANYTHING ELSE 

1723
01:01:56,312 --> 01:01:59,515
TO ADD? WE'LL GO ON TO 

1724
01:01:59,515 --> 01:02:01,617
COUNCILMEMBER, COUNCIL. 

1725
01:02:01,617 --> 01:02:03,019
PRESIDENT EMERITUS. JUAREZ AND 

1726
01:02:03,019 --> 01:02:03,553
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER AND 

1727
01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:05,555
COLLEAGUES, THANK YOU FOR USING 

1728
01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:07,156
MY NONVERBAL CUES AS A AS A 

1729
01:02:07,156 --> 01:02:09,292
MEANS OF FACILITATION. OVER TO 

1730
01:02:09,292 --> 01:02:09,892
YOU. 

1731
01:02:09,892 --> 01:02:12,462
-- THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. I'M

1732
01:02:12,462 --> 01:02:14,363
GOING TO MAKE JUST A FEW 

1733
01:02:14,363 --> 01:02:15,565
COMMENTS AND HAVE A COUPLE 

1734
01:02:15,565 --> 01:02:16,199
QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE 

1735
01:02:16,199 --> 01:02:16,999
SURE I GET INTO THE RECORD. AND 

1736
01:02:16,999 --> 01:02:18,101
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS 

1737
01:02:18,101 --> 01:02:19,368
MORNING. IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL 

1738
01:02:19,368 --> 01:02:23,239
OF YOU AGAIN I BELIEVE THAT WHAT

1739
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:25,274
THE CHALLENGES THAT THE CITY IS 

1740
01:02:25,274 --> 01:02:27,276
HAVING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT 

1741
01:02:27,276 --> 01:02:27,910
THIS BUDGET DOESN'T PROPERLY 

1742
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:29,011
ADDRESS THE CURRENT AND FUTURE 

1743
01:02:29,011 --> 01:02:32,615
NEEDS TO KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE.

1744
01:02:32,615 --> 01:02:33,883
ON JUNE 9th, 2026, CHIEF BARNES 

1745
01:02:33,883 --> 01:02:34,917
STATED THAT THE CITY WAS ON 

1746
01:02:34,917 --> 01:02:36,986
TRACK TO HAVE 1250 OFFICERS BY 

1747
01:02:36,986 --> 01:02:39,989
THE END OF 2026, WITH AN OFFICER

1748
01:02:39,989 --> 01:02:44,894
GOAL OF 1400 BY 2029, WHICH IS 

1749
01:02:44,894 --> 01:02:46,295
WHERE THE CITY WAS POST COVID. 

1750
01:02:46,295 --> 01:02:49,332
BEFORE COVID, PRE COVID AGAIN, 

1751
01:02:49,332 --> 01:02:53,302
BECAUSE I WAS THERE. SO WHY? 

1752
01:02:53,302 --> 01:02:55,872
QUESTION ONE WHY IS 1250 THE 

1753
01:02:55,872 --> 01:02:58,007
NUMBER CHOSEN TO CAP OFFICERS AT

1754
01:02:58,007 --> 01:03:04,647
FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS? WHY? 

1755
01:03:04,647 --> 01:03:08,050
-- 1250 DIRECTOR. 

1756
01:03:08,050 --> 01:03:09,118
-- THE BUDGET FUNDS THE NUMBER 

1757
01:03:09,118 --> 01:03:09,819
AND THE STAFFING PLAN THAT WAS 

1758
01:03:09,819 --> 01:03:13,055
SET OUT LAST YEAR, BUT WASN'T 

1759
01:03:13,055 --> 01:03:14,557
FULLY FUNDED. RIGHT NOW WE ARE 

1760
01:03:14,557 --> 01:03:15,158
TRYING TO PUT THE BUDGET ON A 

1761
01:03:15,158 --> 01:03:17,994
MORE SUSTAINABLE PATH. SO IT 

1762
01:03:17,994 --> 01:03:19,829
ISN'T TO SAY THAT IF THERE ARE 

1763
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:22,365
RESOURCES AVAILABLE, THAT THAT 

1764
01:03:22,365 --> 01:03:23,065
WOULDN'T BE A DECISION THAT IS 

1765
01:03:23,065 --> 01:03:24,267
REVISITED. BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE 

1766
01:03:24,267 --> 01:03:27,637
TRYING TO FOCUS ON AND BE REAL. 

1767
01:03:27,637 --> 01:03:29,305
LIKE BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT 

1768
01:03:29,305 --> 01:03:31,073
THIS BUDGET CAN SUPPORT. 

1769
01:03:31,073 --> 01:03:32,809
-- OKAY. THANK YOU. A FEW 

1770
01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:34,243
STATISTICS THAT I THINK IS 

1771
01:03:34,243 --> 01:03:36,979
IMPORTANT. FOR THE RECORD, FROM 

1772
01:03:36,979 --> 01:03:41,484
2020 TO 2026, WE HAD A 10% 

1773
01:03:41,484 --> 01:03:44,487
POPULATION GROWTH FROM 737 TO 

1774
01:03:44,487 --> 01:03:48,257
816,000, ALMOST SIX 18,000 

1775
01:03:48,257 --> 01:03:51,194
816,600 PEOPLE. YET FROM 20 TO 

1776
01:03:51,194 --> 01:03:57,066
26, WE'VE HAD A 20% OFFICER 

1777
01:03:57,066 --> 01:03:59,535
DECREASE 1424 TO 1120. SO I'M 

1778
01:03:59,535 --> 01:04:00,670
I'M SHARING THESE FACTS BECAUSE

1779
01:04:00,670 --> 01:04:03,206
I WANT THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT 

1780
01:04:03,206 --> 01:04:04,473
THIS ISN'T AT LEAST I'M 

1781
01:04:04,473 --> 01:04:06,008
SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. I DON'T 

1782
01:04:06,008 --> 01:04:07,877
THINK THAT YOU CAN ARREST YOUR 

1783
01:04:07,877 --> 01:04:09,679
ARREST, ARREST YOUR WAY OUT OF 

1784
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:11,948
WHAT WE'RE SEEING. BUT I DO 

1785
01:04:11,948 --> 01:04:13,349
THINK THAT WE NEED MORE 

1786
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:14,984
OFFICERS. SO LET ME LEAVE YOU 

1787
01:04:14,984 --> 01:04:16,519
WITH SOME FACTS AND JUST SOME 

1788
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:18,054
ADDITIONS. THESE ARE 

1789
01:04:18,054 --> 01:04:19,455
APPROXIMATIONS THAT WE PULLED 

1790
01:04:19,455 --> 01:04:21,157
UP. AND I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE

1791
01:04:21,157 --> 01:04:24,227
DETAIL ON THE NORTH PRECINCT. 

1792
01:04:24,227 --> 01:04:25,661
SINCE THE CAMERAS WERE TURNED 

1793
01:04:25,661 --> 01:04:30,333
OFF IN MARCH 2026. CITYWIDE, 

1794
01:04:30,333 --> 01:04:32,134
WE'VE HAD 302 SHOTS FIRED AND 

1795
01:04:32,134 --> 01:04:34,670
12 FATAL INJURIES, AND 61 

1796
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:36,105
NONFATAL INJURIES IN THE NORTH 

1797
01:04:36,105 --> 01:04:40,076
PRECINCT. SHOTS FIRED, SHOTS 

1798
01:04:40,076 --> 01:04:43,546
FIRED, 5722 FATALITIES AND 12 

1799
01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:45,348
NONFATAL. IN THE SOUTH PRECINCT,

1800
01:04:45,348 --> 01:04:49,852
WE'VE HAD 67 SHOOTINGS, AND 

1801
01:04:49,852 --> 01:04:52,054
WE'VE HAD FOUR FATALITIES AND 

1802
01:04:52,054 --> 01:04:54,557
11 NONFATAL IN THE WEST 

1803
01:04:54,557 --> 01:04:57,426
PRECINCT. WE'VE HAD 46 SHOTS 

1804
01:04:57,426 --> 01:04:59,262
FIRED IN THE NONFATAL FIVE, OUR 

1805
01:04:59,262 --> 01:05:06,102
FIVE FATAL AND NONFATAL 13. SO 

1806
01:05:06,102 --> 01:05:07,069
THIS ISN'T ABOUT A POLITICAL 

1807
01:05:07,069 --> 01:05:09,872
IDEOLOGY OF DEFUND OR INCREASE. 

1808
01:05:09,872 --> 01:05:13,309
THIS IS ABOUT ON EARTH ONE IN 

1809
01:05:13,309 --> 01:05:15,745
THE REAL WORLD THAT WE ARE 

1810
01:05:15,745 --> 01:05:16,345
SEEING MORE CRIME BECAUSE WE 

1811
01:05:16,345 --> 01:05:20,449
HAVE LESS OFFICERS TO GO OUT AND

1812
01:05:20,449 --> 01:05:22,118
KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. I 

1813
01:05:22,118 --> 01:05:23,019
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 

1814
01:05:23,019 --> 01:05:26,922
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 1250 AND BEING 

1815
01:05:26,922 --> 01:05:28,791
REALISTIC, BUT I THINK THAT WHEN

1816
01:05:28,791 --> 01:05:29,458
WE'RE REALISTIC AND WE LOOK HOW

1817
01:05:29,458 --> 01:05:32,495
OUR CITY IS GROWING, THAT WE 

1818
01:05:32,495 --> 01:05:33,696
HAVE TO IF WE LOOK AT IF THE 

1819
01:05:33,696 --> 01:05:38,367
CITY IS ONLY GROWS BY 1%, 

1820
01:05:38,367 --> 01:05:39,001
APPROXIMATELY 8000 PEOPLE, THEN 

1821
01:05:39,001 --> 01:05:40,069
TO KEEP A SIMILAR RATIO, WE 

1822
01:05:40,069 --> 01:05:41,537
WOULD NEED AT LEAST 12 

1823
01:05:41,537 --> 01:05:42,905
ADDITIONAL OFFICERS THAT WOULD 

1824
01:05:42,905 --> 01:05:47,977
BE NEEDED. SO I THINK THAT, 

1825
01:05:47,977 --> 01:05:48,945
QUITE FRANKLY, THE PUBLIC SAFETY

1826
01:05:48,945 --> 01:05:50,079
PLAN, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW WHAT 

1827
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:51,914
I THINK ABOUT THE GUN VIOLENCE 

1828
01:05:51,914 --> 01:05:53,182
PREVENTION. I THINK WHAT WE'RE 

1829
01:05:53,182 --> 01:05:54,150
LOOKING AT IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS

1830
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:56,018
IS JUST SMOKE AND MIRRORS. I 

1831
01:05:56,018 --> 01:05:57,486
DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING

1832
01:05:57,486 --> 01:05:59,488
TO THE ISSUE. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT

1833
01:05:59,488 --> 01:06:00,723
SAYING THAT YOU NEED MORE 

1834
01:06:00,723 --> 01:06:02,558
OFFICERS TO JUST ARREST MORE 

1835
01:06:02,558 --> 01:06:03,659
PEOPLE. THOSE OF US THAT HAVE 

1836
01:06:03,659 --> 01:06:05,194
BEEN AROUND AND READ THE CONSENT

1837
01:06:05,194 --> 01:06:07,029
DECREE AND HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN

1838
01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:09,031
THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING 

1839
01:06:09,031 --> 01:06:11,300
AGREEMENTS WITH BOG AND 

1840
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:11,934
UNDERSTAND THE DEATHS THAT HAVE 

1841
01:06:11,934 --> 01:06:13,102
OCCURRED. AND AGAIN, I WILL 

1842
01:06:13,102 --> 01:06:14,203
SHARE THIS, AND I'M SURE THE 

1843
01:06:14,203 --> 01:06:15,871
MAYOR'S OFFICE IS LISTENING. 

1844
01:06:15,871 --> 01:06:17,106
I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS 

1845
01:06:17,106 --> 01:06:18,674
POLITICAL. I'M TRYING TO MAKE 

1846
01:06:18,674 --> 01:06:20,810
IT FACTUAL. PARTICULARLY FOR 

1847
01:06:20,810 --> 01:06:22,144
THOSE FOLKS. AND I'M NOW 

1848
01:06:22,144 --> 01:06:23,612
SPEAKING FOR THE DISTRICT UP IN 

1849
01:06:23,612 --> 01:06:24,780
D FIVE ON AURORA. AND WHAT WE'VE

1850
01:06:24,780 --> 01:06:26,515
BEEN SEEING. AND THIS ISN'T 

1851
01:06:26,515 --> 01:06:28,084
JUST. AND WHAT I'VE JUST SHARED

1852
01:06:28,084 --> 01:06:29,352
WITH YOU IS JUST THE SHOTS FIRED

1853
01:06:29,352 --> 01:06:31,420
AND FATALITIES AND NON-FATAL. I 

1854
01:06:31,420 --> 01:06:34,290
HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED SPOKEN 

1855
01:06:34,290 --> 01:06:35,925
ABOUT THE FELONIES AND THE 

1856
01:06:35,925 --> 01:06:37,960
CRIMES REGARDING SEX 

1857
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,463
TRAFFICKING, ET CETERA., OR 

1858
01:06:40,463 --> 01:06:41,030
ASSAULTS. I HAVEN'T EVEN 

1859
01:06:41,030 --> 01:06:42,898
BROUGHT THOSE NUMBERS UP. SO I 

1860
01:06:42,898 --> 01:06:43,666
JUST I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD 

1861
01:06:43,666 --> 01:06:46,535
WITH THAT, AND I WANT SPD TO 

1862
01:06:46,535 --> 01:06:47,837
KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT YOU AND THE

1863
01:06:47,837 --> 01:06:49,638
WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. I WANT 

1864
01:06:49,638 --> 01:06:50,940
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO KNOW THAT

1865
01:06:50,940 --> 01:06:52,608
WE WANT TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY 

1866
01:06:52,608 --> 01:06:54,777
WITH THEM TO BE AND NOT MAKE 

1867
01:06:54,777 --> 01:06:55,845
THIS POLITICAL AND TALK ABOUT 

1868
01:06:55,845 --> 01:06:57,046
THE CRIME THAT WE'RE SEEING AND

1869
01:06:57,046 --> 01:06:58,647
HOW WE CAN ADDRESS IT. AND YES, 

1870
01:06:58,647 --> 01:07:00,282
WE ALL INVESTED AND WILL 

1871
01:07:00,282 --> 01:07:01,851
CONTINUE TO INVEST AND SUPPORT 

1872
01:07:01,851 --> 01:07:04,019
ALL UPSTREAM PROGRAMS. IS 

1873
01:07:04,019 --> 01:07:08,391
DIVERSION. ABSOLUTELY. BUT 

1874
01:07:08,391 --> 01:07:09,825
AGAIN, I HAVE A HARD TIME 

1875
01:07:09,825 --> 01:07:12,094
BELIEVING, BECAUSE I WATCHED 

1876
01:07:12,094 --> 01:07:12,695
THIS MAYOR DURING DEFUND COME 

1877
01:07:12,695 --> 01:07:14,330
HERE AND HERE AND SCREAM, DEFUND

1878
01:07:14,330 --> 01:07:17,233
THE POLICE, ABOLISH THE POLICE. 

1879
01:07:17,233 --> 01:07:20,669
SO I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING 

1880
01:07:20,669 --> 01:07:23,105
THAT SOMEHOW SOME OF THIS ON THE

1881
01:07:23,105 --> 01:07:24,473
EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS NOT 

1882
01:07:24,473 --> 01:07:26,442
POLITICAL. AND I THINK THAT'S 

1883
01:07:26,442 --> 01:07:27,777
OFFENSIVE. AND IT'S NOT FAIR 

1884
01:07:27,777 --> 01:07:28,644
AND IT AIN'T RIGHT. SO I'LL 

1885
01:07:28,644 --> 01:07:30,713
LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. 

1886
01:07:30,713 --> 01:07:32,548
-- THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

1887
01:07:32,548 --> 01:07:33,682
EMERITUS. JUAREZ COUNCILMEMBER 

1888
01:07:33,682 --> 01:07:35,851
FOSTER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. 

1889
01:07:35,851 --> 01:07:37,019
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. AND

1890
01:07:37,019 --> 01:07:38,187
WE'LL JUST ALWAYS START OFF 

1891
01:07:38,187 --> 01:07:40,389
WITH MY APPRECIATION. THANK YOU 

1892
01:07:40,389 --> 01:07:42,625
SO MUCH, CHIEF SALES AND 

1893
01:07:42,625 --> 01:07:43,192
DIRECTOR PANUCCI. I REALLY 

1894
01:07:43,192 --> 01:07:44,260
APPRECIATE YOU BOTH AND BOTH OF 

1895
01:07:44,260 --> 01:07:47,296
YOU BEING HERE. I WANTED TO TURN

1896
01:07:47,296 --> 01:07:49,465
TO ONE OF THE OVERTIME SLIDES 

1897
01:07:49,465 --> 01:07:51,133
THAT YOU HAVE AND START THERE 

1898
01:07:51,133 --> 01:07:53,936
FIRST. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME 

1899
01:07:53,936 --> 01:07:55,604
QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY,

1900
01:07:55,604 --> 01:07:57,706
BUT ONE THING I HEARD YOU SAY, 

1901
01:07:57,706 --> 01:07:59,942
MR. ETTER, WAS THAT WE HAVE A 

1902
01:07:59,942 --> 01:08:02,044
CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF OUR 

1903
01:08:02,044 --> 01:08:03,979
OVERTIME COSTS ARE REIMBURSED. 

1904
01:08:03,979 --> 01:08:04,747
AND I WONDER IF YOU COULD SHED A

1905
01:08:04,747 --> 01:08:07,683
LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHT ON THAT IN

1906
01:08:07,683 --> 01:08:10,019
TERMS OF HOW MUCH OF OUR 

1907
01:08:10,019 --> 01:08:10,519
OVERTIME IS REIMBURSED, 

1908
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:12,321
PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE COVERING

1909
01:08:12,321 --> 01:08:14,757
OTHER LARGE EVENTS IN THE CITY? 

1910
01:08:14,757 --> 01:08:17,426
-- SURE. I, I WILL HAVE TO 

1911
01:08:17,426 --> 01:08:18,994
FOLLOW UP WITH A PRECISE SORT OF

1912
01:08:18,994 --> 01:08:20,296
BOTTOM LINE PERCENT OF HOW MUCH 

1913
01:08:20,296 --> 01:08:24,333
OF OUR OVERTIME IS REIMBURSED 

1914
01:08:24,333 --> 01:08:26,535
THROUGH CONTRACTS, PERMITS, AND 

1915
01:08:26,535 --> 01:08:29,205
SPECIAL EVENT ARRANGEMENTS. WE 

1916
01:08:29,205 --> 01:08:32,441
HAVE DIFFERENT I KNOW WE HAVE A 

1917
01:08:32,441 --> 01:08:35,177
RANGE OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF 

1918
01:08:35,177 --> 01:08:38,080
REIMBURSEMENT LEVELS ALL THE WAY

1919
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,316
FROM NOTHING FOR CERTAIN FREE 

1920
01:08:40,316 --> 01:08:42,551
SPEECH EVENTS AND, AND SOME 

1921
01:08:42,551 --> 01:08:44,687
PARADES ALL THE WAY UP TO FULL 

1922
01:08:44,687 --> 01:08:47,389
REIMBURSEMENT FOR SOME MAJOR 

1923
01:08:47,389 --> 01:08:49,658
SPORTING EVENTS WHERE WE HAVE 

1924
01:08:49,658 --> 01:08:50,259
CONTRACTS TO REIMBURSE US FOR 

1925
01:08:50,259 --> 01:08:53,929
OUR FULL COSTS. THERE ARE MANY 

1926
01:08:53,929 --> 01:08:57,132
IN THE MIDDLE WHERE WE HAVE 

1927
01:08:57,132 --> 01:08:59,835
SOME. THE SMC TELLS US THAT WE 

1928
01:08:59,835 --> 01:09:02,938
CAN SEEK REIMBURSEMENT AT 

1929
01:09:02,938 --> 01:09:04,673
SPECIFIC LEVELS FOR DIFFERENT 

1930
01:09:04,673 --> 01:09:06,075
KINDS OF EVENTS AT A, YOU KNOW, 

1931
01:09:06,075 --> 01:09:07,710
IN THE HALF TO THREE QUARTERS 

1932
01:09:07,710 --> 01:09:09,645
RANGE OF OUR FULL COSTS. AND 

1933
01:09:09,645 --> 01:09:11,847
THEN THERE ARE OTHER TYPES STILL

1934
01:09:11,847 --> 01:09:16,118
THAT ARE TO BE NEGOTIATED YEAR 

1935
01:09:16,118 --> 01:09:17,853
BY YEAR WITH WITH THE EVENT 

1936
01:09:17,853 --> 01:09:20,689
COORDINATOR, EVENT ORGANIZERS. 

1937
01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:22,358
SO THE BOTTOM LINE, I DON'T 

1938
01:09:22,358 --> 01:09:24,527
KNOW, BUT WE CAN FOLLOW UP AND 

1939
01:09:24,527 --> 01:09:25,194
GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. 

1940
01:09:25,194 --> 01:09:26,362
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'D 

1941
01:09:26,362 --> 01:09:27,429
APPRECIATE THAT FOLLOW UP. I 

1942
01:09:27,429 --> 01:09:28,264
THINK I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE 

1943
01:09:28,264 --> 01:09:30,065
THAT WE'RE WE'RE TRACKING THAT

1944
01:09:30,065 --> 01:09:31,534
AND THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE

1945
01:09:31,534 --> 01:09:35,371
APPROACH THERE, GIVEN, YOU KNOW,

1946
01:09:35,371 --> 01:09:35,971
GIVEN INCREASED COSTS AND THE 

1947
01:09:35,971 --> 01:09:37,006
IMPORTANT ROLE THAT OUR OFFICERS

1948
01:09:37,006 --> 01:09:38,941
PLAY COVERING THOSE EVENTS 

1949
01:09:38,941 --> 01:09:39,942
OUTSIDE OF THEIR REGULAR DUTIES.

1950
01:09:39,942 --> 01:09:42,111
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I 

1951
01:09:42,111 --> 01:09:42,745
BELIEVE THE SLIDE I WAS LOOKING 

1952
01:09:42,745 --> 01:09:44,947
AT WAS SLIDE SIX. BUT NEITHER 

1953
01:09:44,947 --> 01:09:47,216
HERE NOR THERE. AND THEN I WANT 

1954
01:09:47,216 --> 01:09:48,851
TO TURN TO SOME OF THE CHANGES 

1955
01:09:48,851 --> 01:09:51,754
THAT ARE MADE IN THE BUDGET. AND

1956
01:09:51,754 --> 01:09:53,889
I KNOW ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT

1957
01:09:53,889 --> 01:09:56,792
IS SET TO BE REMOVED IS WHICH IS

1958
01:09:56,792 --> 01:09:57,560
CURRENTLY VACANT. AND THIS IS ON

1959
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,764
SLIDE TEN, IS THE 30 BY 30 WORK 

1960
01:10:01,764 --> 01:10:03,432
GROUP SUPPORT. AND THE DEI 

1961
01:10:03,432 --> 01:10:04,166
OFFICER POSITION. AND I WILL 

1962
01:10:04,166 --> 01:10:06,268
SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATE 

1963
01:10:06,268 --> 01:10:07,203
OVERALL, I KNOW ONE OF THE 

1964
01:10:07,203 --> 01:10:09,004
THINGS THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 

1965
01:10:09,004 --> 01:10:11,807
WAS DOING WAS TRYING TO MINIMIZE

1966
01:10:11,807 --> 01:10:13,609
THE NUMBER OF FILLED POSITIONS 

1967
01:10:13,609 --> 01:10:15,611
THAT YOU WERE REMOVING IN THE 

1968
01:10:15,611 --> 01:10:16,979
BUDGET TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT 

1969
01:10:16,979 --> 01:10:19,982
ON, ON LABOR AND PEOPLE AND 

1970
01:10:19,982 --> 01:10:21,650
FAMILIES. AND I SINCERELY 

1971
01:10:21,650 --> 01:10:23,986
APPRECIATE THAT. MY QUESTION IS 

1972
01:10:23,986 --> 01:10:26,522
MORE ABOUT WHAT STRATEGIES WILL 

1973
01:10:26,522 --> 01:10:28,157
THE DEPARTMENT BE UNDERTAKING TO

1974
01:10:28,157 --> 01:10:28,824
ENSURE THAT THIS IMPORTANT WORK 

1975
01:10:28,824 --> 01:10:32,194
ON REACHING OUR 30 BY 30 GOALS 

1976
01:10:32,194 --> 01:10:34,763
AND ENSURING THAT OUR WORKFORCE 

1977
01:10:34,763 --> 01:10:36,065
REALLY REFLECTS OUR CITY. HOW 

1978
01:10:36,065 --> 01:10:37,132
WILL YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE 

1979
01:10:37,132 --> 01:10:39,201
THAT WE MAKE PROGRESS THERE AND 

1980
01:10:39,201 --> 01:10:40,636
THAT WE HIT THIS GOAL? WITHOUT 

1981
01:10:40,636 --> 01:10:44,239
THESE POSITIONS? 

1982
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:46,275
-- I KNOW PROBABLY SINCE LAST 

1983
01:10:46,275 --> 01:10:49,578
DECEMBER OR SO, I'VE BEEN 

1984
01:10:49,578 --> 01:10:51,580
PROBABLY QUARTERLY MEETING WITH 

1985
01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:53,949
CAPTAIN HEIDI TUTTLE AND CAPTAIN

1986
01:10:53,949 --> 01:10:55,651
KRISTA BEYER IN REGARDS TO THESE

1987
01:10:55,651 --> 01:10:58,253
EFFORTS. IRONICALLY, YESTERDAY 

1988
01:10:58,253 --> 01:10:59,088
SOMETHING CAME ACROSS MY EMAIL 

1989
01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:01,457
FROM CALIBER PRESS IN REGARDS TO

1990
01:11:01,457 --> 01:11:03,792
PLACING WOMEN IN COMMAND 

1991
01:11:03,792 --> 01:11:05,094
POSITIONS AND UPPING THAT 

1992
01:11:05,094 --> 01:11:06,595
TRAINING. I SENT THAT TO BOTH. 

1993
01:11:06,595 --> 01:11:08,530
WE HAD A BRIEF EMAIL EXCHANGE IN

1994
01:11:08,530 --> 01:11:09,298
REGARDS TO THAT, AND I KNOW NEXT

1995
01:11:09,298 --> 01:11:12,067
WEEK WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON 

1996
01:11:12,067 --> 01:11:13,836
IDENTIFYING PERSONNEL WITHIN OUR

1997
01:11:13,836 --> 01:11:14,470
POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE WANT 

1998
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:15,571
TO SEND TO THOSE SPECIFIC 

1999
01:11:15,571 --> 01:11:17,106
TRAININGS, AND THEN ALSO LOOKING

2000
01:11:17,106 --> 01:11:21,543
AT WAYS TO POTENTIALLY SEND OUR 

2001
01:11:21,543 --> 01:11:22,077
RECRUITMENT TEAM OVER TO 

2002
01:11:22,077 --> 01:11:24,546
HISTORICALLY, ONLY WOMEN SCHOOLS

2003
01:11:24,546 --> 01:11:29,385
TO DO THAT. RECRUITMENT EFFORTS.

2004
01:11:29,385 --> 01:11:31,587
I DO HAVE A FRIEND THAT IS THE 

2005
01:11:31,587 --> 01:11:33,322
WOMEN'S BASKETBALL COACH FOR 

2006
01:11:33,322 --> 01:11:35,224
SACRAMENTO STATE, AND I'VE BEEN

2007
01:11:35,224 --> 01:11:37,426
TEXTING HIM IN REGARDS TO SOME 

2008
01:11:37,426 --> 01:11:38,527
OF HIS PLAYERS ON HIS TEAM AND 

2009
01:11:38,527 --> 01:11:40,195
SAYING IF THEY WANT TO KEEP THE 

2010
01:11:40,195 --> 01:11:42,731
TEAM ATMOSPHERE, BEING AN EX 

2011
01:11:42,731 --> 01:11:43,265
COLLEGE BASKETBALL PLAYER 

2012
01:11:43,265 --> 01:11:44,700
MYSELF, TRYING TO DO SOME LITTLE

2013
01:11:44,700 --> 01:11:46,602
FREE RECRUITING ON THAT END. BUT

2014
01:11:46,602 --> 01:11:47,870
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT 

2015
01:11:47,870 --> 01:11:50,005
DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THINGS. I 

2016
01:11:50,005 --> 01:11:51,640
THINK YOU NEVER WANT TO DO MORE 

2017
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:52,608
WITH LESS. YOU WANT TO DO 

2018
01:11:52,608 --> 01:11:53,876
DIFFERENT WITH LESS. SO WE'RE 

2019
01:11:53,876 --> 01:11:55,244
TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME 

2020
01:11:55,244 --> 01:11:57,680
IDEAS OF OUR OWN HERE AT THE 

2021
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:58,280
POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE 

2022
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,417
THAT EFFORT AND PUSH THAT EFFORT

2023
01:12:01,417 --> 01:12:01,684
FORWARD. 

2024
01:12:01,684 --> 01:12:03,152
-- THANK YOU, CHIEF, I 

2025
01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:04,219
APPRECIATE THAT. AND I THINK 

2026
01:12:04,219 --> 01:12:05,587
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE I'LL 

2027
01:12:05,587 --> 01:12:07,022
CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP, BECAUSE 

2028
01:12:07,022 --> 01:12:10,059
TO ME, WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THE 

2029
01:12:10,059 --> 01:12:11,427
PROGRESS TOWARD THE GOAL. IT MAY

2030
01:12:11,427 --> 01:12:13,395
BE THAT THE STRATEGY HAS CHANGED

2031
01:12:13,395 --> 01:12:14,830
FROM HAVING ONE POSITION TO 

2032
01:12:14,830 --> 01:12:16,699
HAVING A SET OF STRATEGIES 

2033
01:12:16,699 --> 01:12:17,833
INSIDE THE DEPARTMENT, SOME OF 

2034
01:12:17,833 --> 01:12:18,634
WHICH YOU JUST MENTIONED. BUT 

2035
01:12:18,634 --> 01:12:20,269
WHAT I KNOW WE WANT TO LOOK FOR 

2036
01:12:20,269 --> 01:12:21,870
IS SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS TOWARDS 

2037
01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:22,805
THAT GOAL AND KEEPING US ON 

2038
01:12:22,805 --> 01:12:24,907
TRACK. AND SO IT MAY LOOK 

2039
01:12:24,907 --> 01:12:25,574
DIFFERENT WITHOUT THESE 

2040
01:12:25,574 --> 01:12:27,509
POSITIONS, BUT I AM LOOKING FOR 

2041
01:12:27,509 --> 01:12:30,045
SOME CONCRETE, CLEAR STRATEGIES 

2042
01:12:30,045 --> 01:12:31,747
AND FORWARD NEXT STEPS BECAUSE I

2043
01:12:31,747 --> 01:12:33,349
KNOW WE SHARE, AND I KNOW THAT 

2044
01:12:33,349 --> 01:12:34,283
YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT 

2045
01:12:34,283 --> 01:12:35,584
THIS. I KNOW WE SHARE THIS GOAL 

2046
01:12:35,584 --> 01:12:37,052
FOR OUR FOR OUR POLICE 

2047
01:12:37,052 --> 01:12:38,087
DEPARTMENT. SO I APPRECIATE 

2048
01:12:38,087 --> 01:12:39,755
THAT. CHAIR. I'VE JUST GOT ONE 

2049
01:12:39,755 --> 01:12:41,790
MORE, MAYBE TWO. WE'LL SEE IF. 

2050
01:12:41,790 --> 01:12:44,560
SO IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE 12 

2051
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,297
HERE, I JUST I APPRECIATE THE 

2052
01:12:48,297 --> 01:12:50,032
CONVERSATION AND I, I WILL JUST.

2053
01:12:50,032 --> 01:12:52,501
SECOND, COUNCILMEMBER LIN'S 

2054
01:12:52,501 --> 01:12:52,968
INTEREST AND SORT OF 

2055
01:12:52,968 --> 01:12:54,670
UNDERSTANDING OUR OVERALL BUDGET

2056
01:12:54,670 --> 01:12:55,704
INVESTMENTS. I KNOW WE'VE HEARD

2057
01:12:55,704 --> 01:12:57,940
OTHER COMPARISON OF SEATTLE TO 

2058
01:12:57,940 --> 01:12:58,974
BOSTON OR SEATTLE TO OTHER 

2059
01:12:58,974 --> 01:13:00,042
CITIES. SO I THINK THOSE ARE 

2060
01:13:00,042 --> 01:13:01,677
GREAT QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER 

2061
01:13:01,677 --> 01:13:02,444
LIN I SECOND THOSE ONE. ONE 

2062
01:13:02,444 --> 01:13:03,245
THING I JUST WANTED TO, YOU 

2063
01:13:03,245 --> 01:13:04,847
KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T HERE 

2064
01:13:04,847 --> 01:13:06,215
LAST FALL. SO I WANT TO MAKE 

2065
01:13:06,215 --> 01:13:07,382
SURE THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS 

2066
01:13:07,382 --> 01:13:08,250
THAT WE'RE JUST GETTING CLARITY

2067
01:13:08,250 --> 01:13:09,318
ON, ON, ON THE RECORD HERE IN 

2068
01:13:09,318 --> 01:13:11,587
TERMS OF THE OVERALL BUDGET AND 

2069
01:13:11,587 --> 01:13:12,988
JUST REFLECTING ON THE 

2070
01:13:12,988 --> 01:13:13,789
PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HAD 

2071
01:13:13,789 --> 01:13:14,423
YESTERDAY AND LOOKING AT SOME OF

2072
01:13:14,423 --> 01:13:17,926
THE REDUCTIONS. SO I KNOW WHILE 

2073
01:13:17,926 --> 01:13:20,295
THERE ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE 

2074
01:13:20,295 --> 01:13:21,430
REMOVED OR VACANT POSITIONS THAT

2075
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:23,999
ARE MOVED IN, I THINK FOR FILLED

2076
01:13:23,999 --> 01:13:26,201
POSITIONS THAT ARE REMOVED, AND 

2077
01:13:26,201 --> 01:13:28,303
I CAN YOU JUST WALK ME THROUGH 

2078
01:13:28,303 --> 01:13:31,473
THE OVERALL CHANGE IN SPD'S 

2079
01:13:31,473 --> 01:13:33,609
BUDGET AS A PERCENTAGE FROM THE 

2080
01:13:33,609 --> 01:13:35,077
ADOPTED BUDGET LAST YEAR TO THE 

2081
01:13:35,077 --> 01:13:38,280
PROPOSED BUDGET THIS YEAR? 

2082
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,084
-- SURE. I THINK THIS THIS 

2083
01:13:42,084 --> 01:13:44,319
SLIDE, THE FIRST SLIDE GIVES YOU

2084
01:13:44,319 --> 01:13:47,890
THAT KIND OF OVERVIEW I DON'T 

2085
01:13:47,890 --> 01:13:49,925
HAVE THE PERCENTS SHOWN HERE, 

2086
01:13:49,925 --> 01:13:52,494
BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUST 

2087
01:13:52,494 --> 01:13:53,495
LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND, 

2088
01:13:53,495 --> 01:13:56,732
WHICH IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF 

2089
01:13:56,732 --> 01:13:59,268
OUR FUNDING FROM 2026 ADOPTED TO

2090
01:13:59,268 --> 01:14:02,538
2027 PROPOSED, WE'VE INCREASED 

2091
01:14:02,538 --> 01:14:09,611
ABOUT $66 MILLION. THE. THE BIG.

2092
01:14:09,611 --> 01:14:11,413
AS I SAID IN MY OPENING REMARKS,

2093
01:14:11,413 --> 01:14:13,015
THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS THE CHANGE

2094
01:14:13,015 --> 01:14:14,650
FROM THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING 

2095
01:14:14,650 --> 01:14:18,187
AGREEMENTS. THAT'S ABOUT $58 

2096
01:14:18,187 --> 01:14:19,788
MILLION. THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES

2097
01:14:19,788 --> 01:14:22,691
AS WELL, INCLUDING THE $12.5 

2098
01:14:22,691 --> 01:14:25,227
MILLION FOR FUNDING ADDITIONAL 

2099
01:14:25,227 --> 01:14:27,663
OFFICERS AND SOME SMALLER MOVES 

2100
01:14:27,663 --> 01:14:35,871
THAT THAT HAVE INS AND OUTS 

2101
01:14:35,871 --> 01:14:36,371
-- THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. 

2102
01:14:36,371 --> 01:14:39,575
-- THANK YOU. I'LL JUST PUT THE

2103
01:14:39,575 --> 01:14:42,644
PERCENT ON IT. IT'S A OVERALL 

2104
01:14:42,644 --> 01:14:44,980
SPD BUDGET COMPARED TO THE 2026 

2105
01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:48,116
ADOPTED IS INCREASING BY 13.8%. 

2106
01:14:48,116 --> 01:14:50,285
IT'S A 68 MILLION NET INCREASE 

2107
01:14:50,285 --> 01:14:52,721
WHEN YOU INCLUDE ALL FUNDS AND 

2108
01:14:52,721 --> 01:14:54,690
CONTINUES TO BE THE LARGEST AREA

2109
01:14:54,690 --> 01:14:56,492
OF INVESTMENT FROM THE GENERAL 

2110
01:14:56,492 --> 01:14:56,692
FUND. 

2111
01:14:56,692 --> 01:14:57,326
-- THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S 

2112
01:14:57,326 --> 01:14:59,528
HELPFUL. AND I THINK AND I 

2113
01:14:59,528 --> 01:15:02,397
APPRECIATE YOU, DIRECTOR, FOR 

2114
01:15:02,397 --> 01:15:04,399
FOR POINTING ME TO THE DIFFERENT

2115
01:15:04,399 --> 01:15:05,167
SLIDE. I THINK FOR ME, I WAS 

2116
01:15:05,167 --> 01:15:06,301
LOOKING AT SLIDE 12 BECAUSE I 

2117
01:15:06,301 --> 01:15:08,303
KNOW OBVIOUSLY LAST YEAR WHEN 

2118
01:15:08,303 --> 01:15:11,940
THIS COUNCIL ADOPTED THE BUDGET,

2119
01:15:11,940 --> 01:15:13,742
THE NEW CONTRACTS HAD NOT BEEN 

2120
01:15:13,742 --> 01:15:14,776
COMPLETED. THEIR NEGOTIATION HAD

2121
01:15:14,776 --> 01:15:15,544
NOT BEEN COMPLETED AT THAT POINT

2122
01:15:15,544 --> 01:15:18,080
IN TIME. THEY WERE NEGOTIATED 

2123
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,182
AND THEN ADOPTED LATER. SO THE 

2124
01:15:20,182 --> 01:15:22,651
THE THOSE THEN NECESSITATED 

2125
01:15:22,651 --> 01:15:23,385
ADDITIONAL CHANGES IN THE SPD 

2126
01:15:23,385 --> 01:15:24,620
BUDGET. AS PART OF MY 

2127
01:15:24,620 --> 01:15:25,921
UNDERSTANDING, AND THAT THIS 

2128
01:15:25,921 --> 01:15:28,490
BUDGET FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 

2129
01:15:28,490 --> 01:15:31,460
REFLECTS THOSE CHANGES. DID WE 

2130
01:15:31,460 --> 01:15:32,728
MODEL JUST WHAT THE COST WOULD 

2131
01:15:32,728 --> 01:15:34,830
BE? I KNOW OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS 

2132
01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:36,431
WERE TALKING ABOUT SORT OF 

2133
01:15:36,431 --> 01:15:38,500
DIFFERENT GOAL NUMBERS. DID WE 

2134
01:15:38,500 --> 01:15:39,668
MODEL WHAT THAT WOULD BE IF WE 

2135
01:15:39,668 --> 01:15:44,172
WERE TO TO MAINTAIN THAT GOAL? 

2136
01:15:44,172 --> 01:15:46,542
-- DIRECTOR 

2137
01:15:46,542 --> 01:15:48,143
-- THANK YOU. I THINK THERE HAVE

2138
01:15:48,143 --> 01:15:49,545
BEEN SOME DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT 

2139
01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:51,813
MODELING I CAN OFFER AN EXAMPLE.

2140
01:15:51,813 --> 01:15:56,919
SO TO IT WOULD COST ABOUT $14 

2141
01:15:56,919 --> 01:15:59,288
MILLION IN 2028 AND $26 MILLION 

2142
01:15:59,288 --> 01:16:04,393
IN 2029 AND BEYOND TO FUND 1352 

2143
01:16:04,393 --> 01:16:05,894
FULL TIME OFFICERS. SO THAT IS 

2144
01:16:05,894 --> 01:16:07,829
ONE EXAMPLE. THERE CAN BE OTHER 

2145
01:16:07,829 --> 01:16:13,468
MODELS RUN. AND AS. DAN 

2146
01:16:13,468 --> 01:16:15,003
MENTIONED EARLIER, GREG, WHO 

2147
01:16:15,003 --> 01:16:16,071
HELPED DEVELOP THE STAFFING 

2148
01:16:16,071 --> 01:16:17,506
MODEL I'M SURE WILL BE RUNNING 

2149
01:16:17,506 --> 01:16:20,309
LOTS OF MODELS FOR YOU. ALL. 

2150
01:16:20,309 --> 01:16:21,610
-- I THANK HIM IN ADVANCE. OH 

2151
01:16:21,610 --> 01:16:22,811
PLEASE. 

2152
01:16:22,811 --> 01:16:25,047
-- I'M SORRY TO SPEAK OVER YOU.

2153
01:16:25,047 --> 01:16:26,915
AYE. IT COSTS ABOUT $200,000. 

2154
01:16:26,915 --> 01:16:29,384
IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 

2155
01:16:29,384 --> 01:16:31,353
THAT TO TO FUND AN AVERAGE 

2156
01:16:31,353 --> 01:16:32,888
FILLED FTE OVER THE COURSE OF 

2157
01:16:32,888 --> 01:16:36,892
THE YEAR. SO, YOU KNOW, ADDING 

2158
01:16:36,892 --> 01:16:38,026
TEN AVERAGE FILLED FTES OVER THE

2159
01:16:38,026 --> 01:16:39,161
COURSE OF THE YEAR IS ON THE 

2160
01:16:39,161 --> 01:16:41,763
ORDER OF $2 MILLION. 

2161
01:16:41,763 --> 01:16:42,898
-- THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THANK 

2162
01:16:42,898 --> 01:16:45,500
YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN I'LL 

2163
01:16:45,500 --> 01:16:46,902
JUST ASK YOU ON THIS LINE OF 

2164
01:16:46,902 --> 01:16:47,502
QUESTIONING HERE BECAUSE, YOU 

2165
01:16:47,502 --> 01:16:48,904
KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE IN OUR 

2166
01:16:48,904 --> 01:16:50,105
BUDGET PROCESS AND WE'RE 

2167
01:16:50,105 --> 01:16:51,440
THINKING ABOUT COST. BUT WHAT 

2168
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:52,541
AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING

2169
01:16:52,541 --> 01:16:54,376
TO DRIVE TOWARDS IS A CITY THAT 

2170
01:16:54,376 --> 01:16:56,078
WORKS FOR ALL OF US, A CITY THAT

2171
01:16:56,078 --> 01:16:58,213
IS SAFE FOR ALL OF US. AND SO IF

2172
01:16:58,213 --> 01:17:00,782
YOU COULD ALSO JUST SPEAK TO HOW

2173
01:17:00,782 --> 01:17:02,651
YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT 

2174
01:17:02,651 --> 01:17:04,553
METRICS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT

2175
01:17:04,553 --> 01:17:06,388
OF HIRING. SO I KNOW ONE THING I

2176
01:17:06,388 --> 01:17:07,556
HEAR A LOT ABOUT AND I CARE A 

2177
01:17:07,556 --> 01:17:09,825
LOT ABOUT IS RESPONSE TIMES, YOU

2178
01:17:09,825 --> 01:17:12,427
KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S GETTING TO

2179
01:17:12,427 --> 01:17:12,995
THE SEVEN MINUTES OR OTHER 

2180
01:17:12,995 --> 01:17:15,030
METRICS. SO CAN YOU JUST SPEAK 

2181
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:16,965
TO, AS YOU PROPOSE THE BUDGET 

2182
01:17:16,965 --> 01:17:19,101
WITH THIS INCREASE IN OFFICERS, 

2183
01:17:19,101 --> 01:17:21,136
HOW YOU'LL BE TRACKING THE 

2184
01:17:21,136 --> 01:17:23,105
IMPACT OF THESE, THESE REALLY 

2185
01:17:23,105 --> 01:17:25,640
IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS? 

2186
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,509
-- YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT, 

2187
01:17:27,509 --> 01:17:28,443
AT LEAST TO GET STARTED AT THE 

2188
01:17:28,443 --> 01:17:31,947
TABLE HERE. AS I MENTIONED, WHEN

2189
01:17:31,947 --> 01:17:34,716
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE STAFFING

2190
01:17:34,716 --> 01:17:36,852
PLAN, WE DO SORT OF UPDATE THE 

2191
01:17:36,852 --> 01:17:39,821
PLAN MONTHLY WITH ACTUAL 

2192
01:17:39,821 --> 01:17:41,923
INFORMATION TO REPLACE OUR 

2193
01:17:41,923 --> 01:17:42,524
PROJECTIONS, WHICH ARE, YOU 

2194
01:17:42,524 --> 01:17:45,594
KNOW, IN THIS CASE, MORE THAN 

2195
01:17:45,594 --> 01:17:46,762
TWO YEARS IN ADVANCE. SO WE WILL

2196
01:17:46,762 --> 01:17:48,730
HAVE MORE INFORMATION EVERY 

2197
01:17:48,730 --> 01:17:49,931
MONTH ABOUT HOW MANY NEW HIRES 

2198
01:17:49,931 --> 01:17:52,300
WE HAVE, HOW LONG IT'S TAKEN FOR

2199
01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:56,838
OFFICERS TO GET FROM THE ACADEMY

2200
01:17:56,838 --> 01:17:58,940
THROUGH TRAINING, TO BECOME 

2201
01:17:58,940 --> 01:18:00,976
FULLY TRAINED, DEPLOYABLE 

2202
01:18:00,976 --> 01:18:02,911
OFFICERS, AND THAT LAST 

2203
01:18:02,911 --> 01:18:05,414
STATISTIC IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

2204
01:18:05,414 --> 01:18:06,782
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE THE 

2205
01:18:06,782 --> 01:18:08,316
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WE CAN 

2206
01:18:08,316 --> 01:18:10,385
ACTUALLY PUT ON THE STREET AND 

2207
01:18:10,385 --> 01:18:11,286
DOING POLICE WORK, WHETHER 

2208
01:18:11,286 --> 01:18:13,922
THEY'RE ON PATROL OR OTHERWISE,

2209
01:18:13,922 --> 01:18:17,592
IS WHAT DRIVES EVERYTHING ELSE. 

2210
01:18:17,592 --> 01:18:20,695
WHAT WE CAN'T CONTROL, HOW MANY

2211
01:18:20,695 --> 01:18:22,397
OFFICERS ARE ON LONG TERM 

2212
01:18:22,397 --> 01:18:24,099
DISABILITY AND ILLNESS. THAT'S 

2213
01:18:24,099 --> 01:18:25,934
JUST A INFORMATION THAT WE 

2214
01:18:25,934 --> 01:18:28,737
RECEIVE. WE CAN'T CONTROL HOW 

2215
01:18:28,737 --> 01:18:29,371
MANY OFFICERS ULTIMATELY LEAVE 

2216
01:18:29,371 --> 01:18:31,940
THE FORCE EITHER BECAUSE FOR ONE

2217
01:18:31,940 --> 01:18:34,009
REASON OR ANOTHER. SO WHAT WE 

2218
01:18:34,009 --> 01:18:37,913
HAVE LEFT IS THE NUMBER OF 

2219
01:18:37,913 --> 01:18:40,749
OFFICERS WHO ARE ABLE TO BE 

2220
01:18:40,749 --> 01:18:41,283
DEPLOYED AS FULLY TRAINED 

2221
01:18:41,283 --> 01:18:44,219
OFFICERS. THAT NUMBER IS 

2222
01:18:44,219 --> 01:18:45,720
SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER ON A 

2223
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,023
PROJECTED BASIS AT THE END OF 

2224
01:18:48,023 --> 01:18:50,659
2026, COMPARED TO WHERE WE WERE 

2225
01:18:50,659 --> 01:18:52,728
IN 2018. BUT IT'S A LAGGING 

2226
01:18:52,728 --> 01:18:54,663
INDICATOR. IT TAKES MORE THAN A 

2227
01:18:54,663 --> 01:18:58,567
YEAR TO TRAIN A NEW RECRUIT AND 

2228
01:18:58,567 --> 01:18:59,468
GET THEM INTO THE POSITION OF 

2229
01:18:59,468 --> 01:19:02,137
BEING A FULLY TRAINED, 

2230
01:19:02,137 --> 01:19:04,139
DEPLOYABLE OFFICER. SO OUR 

2231
01:19:04,139 --> 01:19:06,742
PROJECTION IS THAT WE WILL HAVE 

2232
01:19:06,742 --> 01:19:09,044
MORE FULLY TRAINED, DEPLOYABLE 

2233
01:19:09,044 --> 01:19:12,714
OFFICERS IN 2027 THAN WE HAD IN 

2234
01:19:12,714 --> 01:19:14,583
26, AND STILL MORE IN 28 THAN WE

2235
01:19:14,583 --> 01:19:15,951
HAD, THAN WE WERE PROJECTING TO 

2236
01:19:15,951 --> 01:19:20,622
HAVE IN 27. SO THAT THAT LINE IS

2237
01:19:20,622 --> 01:19:23,558
INCREASING, WHICH IS A GOOD 

2238
01:19:23,558 --> 01:19:23,792
THING. 

2239
01:19:23,792 --> 01:19:24,593
-- THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANTED 

2240
01:19:24,593 --> 01:19:26,728
TO CLARIFY WHAT I'M ASKING, AND

2241
01:19:26,728 --> 01:19:28,296
THAT WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL. IT 

2242
01:19:28,296 --> 01:19:29,931
WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT

2243
01:19:29,931 --> 01:19:31,366
I WAS TRYING TO ASK, WHICH IS AS

2244
01:19:31,366 --> 01:19:32,768
WE CONTINUE TO STAFF UP AND EVEN

2245
01:19:32,768 --> 01:19:34,569
THOUGH THIS IS A LAGGING 

2246
01:19:34,569 --> 01:19:36,771
INDICATOR, HOW ARE WE TRACKING 

2247
01:19:36,771 --> 01:19:39,674
OUR OUR DELIVERY HERE IN TERMS 

2248
01:19:39,674 --> 01:19:41,143
OF THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE HAVING

2249
01:19:41,143 --> 01:19:42,010
ON PUBLIC SAFETY? SO TRACKING, 

2250
01:19:42,010 --> 01:19:43,845
YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET TO THE OUR

2251
01:19:43,845 --> 01:19:46,181
NEXT GOAL OF OFFICERS, WHAT 

2252
01:19:46,181 --> 01:19:47,616
IMPACT THAT'S HAVING ON OUR 

2253
01:19:47,616 --> 01:19:49,117
RESPONSE TIMES, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE

2254
01:19:49,117 --> 01:19:51,052
SEEING IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES FOR 

2255
01:19:51,052 --> 01:19:52,120
OUR RESIDENTS AND SOME OF THE 

2256
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,421
IMPORTANT THINGS THAT MY 

2257
01:19:53,421 --> 01:19:53,922
COLLEAGUES HAVE ALREADY 

2258
01:19:53,922 --> 01:19:55,056
MENTIONED TODAY. SO AND THAT 

2259
01:19:55,056 --> 01:19:58,894
WILL BE MY LAST QUESTION, CHAIR.

2260
01:19:58,894 --> 01:20:00,195
-- THE WAYS THAT WE TRACK OUR 

2261
01:20:00,195 --> 01:20:01,062
RESPONSE TIMES AND SO FORTH, WE 

2262
01:20:01,062 --> 01:20:03,331
DO THAT DURING OUR C STAT 

2263
01:20:03,331 --> 01:20:04,399
MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE ONCE A 

2264
01:20:04,399 --> 01:20:07,469
MONTH WITH OUR CAPTAINS OF EACH 

2265
01:20:07,469 --> 01:20:09,070
PRECINCT. WE LOOK AT THE 

2266
01:20:09,070 --> 01:20:10,305
RESPONSE TIMES FOR PRIORITY ONE,

2267
01:20:10,305 --> 01:20:13,875
TWO AND THREE CALLS. AND I THINK

2268
01:20:13,875 --> 01:20:16,711
AS WE GO FORTH, WE CAN START 

2269
01:20:16,711 --> 01:20:17,646
IMPLEMENTING THIS IS HOW MANY 

2270
01:20:17,646 --> 01:20:19,814
OFFICERS YOU HAD AT THIS TIME, 

2271
01:20:19,814 --> 01:20:22,083
MONTH THREE. YOU HAVE AN 

2272
01:20:22,083 --> 01:20:24,119
ADDITIONAL 3 OR 4 OFFICERS THAT 

2273
01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:25,554
HAVE GRADUATED FROM THE FTO 

2274
01:20:25,554 --> 01:20:26,188
PROGRAM. WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE 

2275
01:20:26,188 --> 01:20:27,522
TIME LOOKING LIKE THAT? SO I 

2276
01:20:27,522 --> 01:20:28,690
THINK THAT'S A TOOL THAT WE CAN

2277
01:20:28,690 --> 01:20:31,927
ADD INTO. PROBABLY NOT C STAT, 

2278
01:20:31,927 --> 01:20:33,695
BUT OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM MEETING 

2279
01:20:33,695 --> 01:20:36,131
TO START TRACKING THAT TO SEE 

2280
01:20:36,131 --> 01:20:37,632
ONCE WE START PUTTING STUDENT 

2281
01:20:37,632 --> 01:20:38,967
OFFICERS IN SEATS, NOT WITH 

2282
01:20:38,967 --> 01:20:40,969
FTOS, HOW DOES THAT BRING DOWN 

2283
01:20:40,969 --> 01:20:41,670
OUR RESPONSE TIME? SO WE CAN WE 

2284
01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:43,104
CAN ADD THAT. 

2285
01:20:43,104 --> 01:20:44,272
-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 

2286
01:20:44,272 --> 01:20:45,974
-- CHAIR THANK YOU, 

2287
01:20:45,974 --> 01:20:46,441
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. 

2288
01:20:46,441 --> 01:20:49,644
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. FOLLOWED 

2289
01:20:49,644 --> 01:20:50,145
BY COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 

2290
01:20:50,145 --> 01:20:52,948
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2291
01:20:52,948 --> 01:20:54,783
STRAUSS. I JUST WANT TO I HAVE A

2292
01:20:54,783 --> 01:20:56,384
FEW QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO 

2293
01:20:56,384 --> 01:20:58,954
MAKE A FEW COMMENTS RELATED TO 

2294
01:20:58,954 --> 01:21:01,323
OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET IN 

2295
01:21:01,323 --> 01:21:06,061
GENERAL. FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT 

2296
01:21:06,061 --> 01:21:07,462
TO SAY COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ, I 

2297
01:21:07,462 --> 01:21:08,296
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I 

2298
01:21:08,296 --> 01:21:10,298
AGREE WITH YOU. THIS ISN'T ABOUT

2299
01:21:10,298 --> 01:21:12,667
IDEOLOGY. THIS IS ABOUT POLITICS

2300
01:21:12,667 --> 01:21:14,469
AND RESPONDING TO OUR 

2301
01:21:14,469 --> 01:21:15,070
CONSTITUENTS AND MAKING SURE 

2302
01:21:15,070 --> 01:21:17,339
THAT WE HAVE A SAFE CITY FOR 

2303
01:21:17,339 --> 01:21:19,541
EVERYONE THAT LIVES IN THIS 

2304
01:21:19,541 --> 01:21:20,976
CITY, INCLUDING ALL OUR FAMILIES

2305
01:21:20,976 --> 01:21:22,844
AND ALL OUR KIDS. KIDS DESERVE 

2306
01:21:22,844 --> 01:21:25,580
TO LIVE IN A SAFE CITY FULL 

2307
01:21:25,580 --> 01:21:27,849
STOP. AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE 

2308
01:21:27,849 --> 01:21:35,257
AFRAID TO GO TO SCHOOL BECAUSE 

2309
01:21:35,257 --> 01:21:37,025
THEY FEAR THEIR SAFETY. I WILL 

2310
01:21:37,025 --> 01:21:40,695
SAY THIS IS POLICE FIRE AND 911 

2311
01:21:40,695 --> 01:21:44,733
ARE CHARTERED RESPONSIBILITIES. 

2312
01:21:44,733 --> 01:21:48,970
LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN. FIRE, 

2313
01:21:48,970 --> 01:21:52,807
POLICE AND 911 ARE CHARTERED 

2314
01:21:52,807 --> 01:21:53,408
RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITY. 

2315
01:21:53,408 --> 01:21:55,744
THEY NEED TO BE TREATED LIKE 

2316
01:21:55,744 --> 01:21:58,980
THAT IN OUR BUDGET. BUT THIS 

2317
01:21:58,980 --> 01:21:59,648
ISN'T A BUDGET THAT PRIORITIZES

2318
01:21:59,648 --> 01:22:06,154
OUR CHARTER RESPONSIBILITIES. I 

2319
01:22:06,154 --> 01:22:08,556
WILL SAY BECOMING A FULLY 

2320
01:22:08,556 --> 01:22:10,158
STAFFED POLICE DEPARTMENT 

2321
01:22:10,158 --> 01:22:11,693
COMPARABLE TO OTHER CITIES OF 

2322
01:22:11,693 --> 01:22:13,762
OUR SIZE IN THE UNITED STATES 

2323
01:22:13,762 --> 01:22:15,463
SHOULD NOT BE CONTROVERSIAL. 

2324
01:22:15,463 --> 01:22:17,599
THIS SHOULD NOT BE 

2325
01:22:17,599 --> 01:22:19,167
CONTROVERSIAL. TO HAVE ENOUGH 

2326
01:22:19,167 --> 01:22:21,336
OFFICERS SO THAT OUR RESPONSE 

2327
01:22:21,336 --> 01:22:22,904
TIMES SHOULD BE WHAT BEST 

2328
01:22:22,904 --> 01:22:24,973
PRACTICES ARE, AND SO THAT OUR 

2329
01:22:24,973 --> 01:22:27,242
CONSTITUENTS ON THE GROUND, ON 

2330
01:22:27,242 --> 01:22:29,311
THE GROUND ARE FEELING. BECAUSE 

2331
01:22:29,311 --> 01:22:31,846
WE HEAR ANECDOTALLY, THEY CALL 

2332
01:22:31,846 --> 01:22:33,181
AND POLICE DON'T SHOW UP FOR 

2333
01:22:33,181 --> 01:22:34,316
MANY HOURS LATER. AND I 

2334
01:22:34,316 --> 01:22:36,618
UNDERSTAND WHY, BECAUSE I'VE SAT

2335
01:22:36,618 --> 01:22:39,721
AT THE 911 CALL CENTER TO SEE 

2336
01:22:39,721 --> 01:22:41,923
FOR MYSELF WHAT IS HAPPENING. 

2337
01:22:41,923 --> 01:22:42,524
AND AS CALLS ARE PRIORITIZED, 

2338
01:22:42,524 --> 01:22:44,326
SOME OF THOSE LOWER PRIORITY. 

2339
01:22:44,326 --> 01:22:46,027
QUOTE UNQUOTE, LOWER PRIORITY 

2340
01:22:46,027 --> 01:22:47,495
CALLS, THEY DON'T FEEL LOWER 

2341
01:22:47,495 --> 01:22:49,698
PRIORITY TO THE PERSON WHO'S 

2342
01:22:49,698 --> 01:22:51,366
CALLED 911, BUT THOSE LOWER 

2343
01:22:51,366 --> 01:22:53,568
PRIORITY CALLS GO UNANSWERED 

2344
01:22:53,568 --> 01:22:55,737
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FULLY 

2345
01:22:55,737 --> 01:22:57,772
STAFFED POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT 

2346
01:22:57,772 --> 01:23:00,241
IS THE BOTTOM LINE AND WE CAN 

2347
01:23:00,241 --> 01:23:04,112
MAKE ALL THE THE, YOU KNOW, 

2348
01:23:04,112 --> 01:23:04,946
IDEOLOGICAL STATEMENTS THAT WE 

2349
01:23:04,946 --> 01:23:06,214
WANT TO MAKE. BUT AT THE END OF 

2350
01:23:06,214 --> 01:23:08,516
THE DAY, WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 911,

2351
01:23:08,516 --> 01:23:11,419
THEY WANT POLICE OFFICER TO SHOW

2352
01:23:11,419 --> 01:23:13,288
UP AND HELP THEM. AND WE CANNOT 

2353
01:23:13,288 --> 01:23:15,423
PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TODAY IN 

2354
01:23:15,423 --> 01:23:21,763
THE LEVEL THAT WE SHOULD. I WILL

2355
01:23:21,763 --> 01:23:26,501
SAY ON SLIDE NUMBER SEVEN, I WAS

2356
01:23:26,501 --> 01:23:28,503
LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS PIECE OF

2357
01:23:28,503 --> 01:23:30,338
HIRING CONVERSATIONS, AND 

2358
01:23:30,338 --> 01:23:31,940
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ ALSO, YOU 

2359
01:23:31,940 --> 01:23:32,574
MADE SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT

2360
01:23:32,574 --> 01:23:38,079
I WAS GOING TO MAKE IN 2019. WE 

2361
01:23:38,079 --> 01:23:40,648
HAD ABOUT 14 AND 24 SWORN 

2362
01:23:40,648 --> 01:23:42,384
OFFICERS, OF WHICH 1281 ABOUT 

2363
01:23:42,384 --> 01:23:43,651
WERE DEPLOYABLE, AND WE HAD 

2364
01:23:43,651 --> 01:23:47,255
ABOUT 753 THOUSAND PEOPLE. IN 

2365
01:23:47,255 --> 01:23:49,391
2026. WE NOW HAVE ALMOST I 

2366
01:23:49,391 --> 01:23:53,628
BELIEVE IT'S CLOSE TO YOU, SAID

2367
01:23:53,628 --> 01:23:54,262
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ 816. AND I 

2368
01:23:54,262 --> 01:23:55,430
THINK IT MIGHT BE EVEN A LITTLE 

2369
01:23:55,430 --> 01:24:01,403
MORE THAN THAT. AND WE HAVE AT 

2370
01:24:01,403 --> 01:24:04,639
THIS POINT, ABOUT 1197 SWORN 

2371
01:24:04,639 --> 01:24:05,140
OFFICERS WITH ONLY 927 

2372
01:24:05,140 --> 01:24:07,342
DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS. SO AT THE 

2373
01:24:07,342 --> 01:24:10,412
END OF THE DAY, WE DO NOT HAVE 

2374
01:24:10,412 --> 01:24:11,646
SUFFICIENT OFFICERS TO MEET THE 

2375
01:24:11,646 --> 01:24:14,616
NEEDS, EVEN THOUGH OUR 

2376
01:24:14,616 --> 01:24:16,384
CONSTITUENCY HAS INCREASED BY 

2377
01:24:16,384 --> 01:24:18,453
ABOUT 7000 PEOPLE. AND MY 

2378
01:24:18,453 --> 01:24:20,522
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE 

2379
01:24:20,522 --> 01:24:22,590
BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR 

2380
01:24:22,590 --> 01:24:25,593
RATIOS OF POLICE TO RESIDENTS. 

2381
01:24:25,593 --> 01:24:27,562
THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, I BELIEVE,

2382
01:24:27,562 --> 01:24:29,898
IS 26.5 PER 10,000 RESIDENTS. 

2383
01:24:29,898 --> 01:24:34,602
BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 18 PER 10,000 

2384
01:24:34,602 --> 01:24:37,072
RESIDENTS. AND JUST QUICKLY 

2385
01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:40,708
LOOKING UP, WASHINGTON, D.C. HAS

2386
01:24:40,708 --> 01:24:42,577
ABOUT 702,000 CONSTITUENTS OR 

2387
01:24:42,577 --> 01:24:45,013
RESIDENTS, AND THEIR STAFFING 

2388
01:24:45,013 --> 01:24:47,015
RATIO IS 54 PER 10,000. SO WHEN 

2389
01:24:47,015 --> 01:24:48,583
WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES 

2390
01:24:48,583 --> 01:24:51,686
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT OUR 

2391
01:24:51,686 --> 01:24:53,755
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT LOOKS LIKE, 

2392
01:24:53,755 --> 01:24:55,256
IT IS NOT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. 

2393
01:24:55,256 --> 01:24:57,192
AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER 

2394
01:24:57,192 --> 01:24:59,794
JUAREZ, I KEEP GOING TO YOU 

2395
01:24:59,794 --> 01:25:02,263
MOSTLY BECAUSE WE WERE BOTH HERE

2396
01:25:02,263 --> 01:25:04,666
DURING COVID, WE BOTH UNDERSTAND

2397
01:25:04,666 --> 01:25:09,704
WHEN THERE WAS A WANT TO 

2398
01:25:09,704 --> 01:25:12,874
DECREASE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 

2399
01:25:12,874 --> 01:25:13,408
PEOPLE ARGUE ABOUT DEFUND 

2400
01:25:13,408 --> 01:25:13,975
BECAUSE THEY SAY WE NEVER 

2401
01:25:13,975 --> 01:25:15,343
ACTUALLY DEFUND IT. WE DID 

2402
01:25:15,343 --> 01:25:19,981
DECREASE IT IN, IN, IN DOLLAR 

2403
01:25:19,981 --> 01:25:21,549
AMOUNTS. AND ALSO A LOT OF 

2404
01:25:21,549 --> 01:25:23,852
OFFICERS JUST LEFT BECAUSE THEY 

2405
01:25:23,852 --> 01:25:25,653
FELT UNSUPPORTED. SO THAT'S JUST

2406
01:25:25,653 --> 01:25:26,554
THE BOTTOM LINE. THOSE ARE 

2407
01:25:26,554 --> 01:25:28,656
FACTS, AS YOU LIKE TO SAY. 

2408
01:25:28,656 --> 01:25:31,860
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ THEN ON 

2409
01:25:31,860 --> 01:25:34,529
SLIDE TEN, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS

2410
01:25:34,529 --> 01:25:37,098
ABOUT THE STAFFING CHANGES. ONE 

2411
01:25:37,098 --> 01:25:39,734
THAT JUST STRUCK OUT ME STRUCK, 

2412
01:25:39,734 --> 01:25:41,736
STRUCK, EXCUSE ME, STUCK OUT TO 

2413
01:25:41,736 --> 01:25:44,372
ME WERE THIS RECORD SUPPORT AND 

2414
01:25:44,372 --> 01:25:48,042
DECREASING THE ONE FTE, BECAUSE 

2415
01:25:48,042 --> 01:25:48,643
I KNOW THAT HISTORICALLY THE 

2416
01:25:48,643 --> 01:25:51,646
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS 

2417
01:25:51,646 --> 01:25:52,447
HAD DIFFICULTIES GETTING OUT. 

2418
01:25:52,447 --> 01:25:54,382
THERE HAVE BEEN PUBLIC 

2419
01:25:54,382 --> 01:25:55,950
DISCLOSURE REQUESTS AND GETTING 

2420
01:25:55,950 --> 01:25:56,584
INFORMATION OUT AND WHETHER THEY

2421
01:25:56,584 --> 01:25:58,887
HAVE THE STAFFING AVAILABLE. 

2422
01:25:58,887 --> 01:26:01,322
THERE'S JUST SO MANY PUBLIC 

2423
01:26:01,322 --> 01:26:03,258
DISCLOSURE REQUESTS. SO WE 

2424
01:26:03,258 --> 01:26:06,594
DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT

2425
01:26:06,594 --> 01:26:07,228
THAT HAMPERS THE DEPARTMENT'S 

2426
01:26:07,228 --> 01:26:08,796
ABILITY TO RESPOND TO THOSE 

2427
01:26:08,796 --> 01:26:10,231
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUESTS. SO I

2428
01:26:10,231 --> 01:26:11,733
WANT TO MAKE SURE, WHAT IMPACT 

2429
01:26:11,733 --> 01:26:16,838
IS THIS GOING TO HAVE ON THAT? 

2430
01:26:16,838 --> 01:26:17,505
BECAUSE. DAN EDER, I KNOW THAT, 

2431
01:26:17,505 --> 01:26:19,274
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE

2432
01:26:19,274 --> 01:26:21,709
FOR THE DEPARTMENT HISTORICALLY.

2433
01:26:21,709 --> 01:26:23,578
-- SURE. I'D BE HAPPY TO. WOULD

2434
01:26:23,578 --> 01:26:24,546
YOU LIKE ME TO JUMP IN RIGHT 

2435
01:26:24,546 --> 01:26:28,383
NOW? I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT

2436
01:26:28,383 --> 01:26:30,018
THE TWO, THE TWO POSITIONS THAT 

2437
01:26:30,018 --> 01:26:31,653
WILL INVOLVE LAYOFFS, I DON'T 

2438
01:26:31,653 --> 01:26:33,521
THINK EITHER OF THEM ARE 

2439
01:26:33,521 --> 01:26:35,290
INVOLVED IN PUBLIC RECORDS 

2440
01:26:35,290 --> 01:26:36,658
REQUESTS. ONE OF THEM IS A 

2441
01:26:36,658 --> 01:26:38,660
WEYERHAEUSER ONE POSITION. THE 

2442
01:26:38,660 --> 01:26:40,161
JOB DUTIES ARE TO SUPPORT THE 

2443
01:26:40,161 --> 01:26:42,030
PHYSICAL TRANSFER OF RECORDS AND

2444
01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:44,566
RELATED SUPPLIES FROM ACROSS THE

2445
01:26:44,566 --> 01:26:47,635
DEPARTMENT, AND WE HAVE BEEN 

2446
01:26:47,635 --> 01:26:49,304
TRANSITIONING TO A DIGITIZED 

2447
01:26:49,304 --> 01:26:52,106
SYSTEM. AND SO THE NEED FOR THIS

2448
01:26:52,106 --> 01:26:56,077
WORK HAS CHANGED AND DIMINISHED.

2449
01:26:56,077 --> 01:26:57,879
THE OTHER RECORDS RELATED 

2450
01:26:57,879 --> 01:27:00,081
POSITION IS AN ADMIN SPECIALIST.

2451
01:27:00,081 --> 01:27:02,116
ONE, THE JOB DUTIES, THE PRIMARY

2452
01:27:02,116 --> 01:27:04,919
JOB DUTIES ARE IN AUTO RECORDS 

2453
01:27:04,919 --> 01:27:07,989
AND THEY WORK WITH POLICE 

2454
01:27:07,989 --> 01:27:10,558
OFFICERS AND DATA TECHS FOR 

2455
01:27:10,558 --> 01:27:12,460
TOWED STOLEN CARS. THEY 

2456
01:27:12,460 --> 01:27:13,094
COORDINATE BETWEEN TOW COMPANIES

2457
01:27:13,094 --> 01:27:14,929
AND POLICE OFFICERS, AND THEY'RE

2458
01:27:14,929 --> 01:27:16,998
FOR THAT POSITION. THERE ARE 

2459
01:27:16,998 --> 01:27:19,267
ABOUT 38 OTHER FOLKS WHO DO 

2460
01:27:19,267 --> 01:27:20,835
SIMILAR WORK. SO THAT THAT THAT 

2461
01:27:20,835 --> 01:27:23,037
WORK CAN BE ABSORBED BY THE 

2462
01:27:23,037 --> 01:27:24,238
EXISTING STAFF. 

2463
01:27:24,238 --> 01:27:25,974
-- WITHOUT IMPACT, YOU MEAN? 

2464
01:27:25,974 --> 01:27:28,276
THANK YOU. MY OTHER QUESTION IS 

2465
01:27:28,276 --> 01:27:29,911
ABOUT THE REAL TIME CRIME 

2466
01:27:29,911 --> 01:27:32,780
CENTER. DOES THIS DECREASE 

2467
01:27:32,780 --> 01:27:33,815
ELIMINATE THE REAL TIME CRIME 

2468
01:27:33,815 --> 01:27:36,551
CENTER? I CAN'T TELL FROM FROM 

2469
01:27:36,551 --> 01:27:39,354
THE BUDGET AND WHAT. AND THEN 

2470
01:27:39,354 --> 01:27:42,190
I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM INTERIM 

2471
01:27:42,190 --> 01:27:44,292
CHIEF SALES ABOUT THE IMPACTS TO

2472
01:27:44,292 --> 01:27:45,693
THIS REDUCTION TO THE REAL TIME 

2473
01:27:45,693 --> 01:27:48,663
CRIME CENTER. IF IT'S NOT 

2474
01:27:48,663 --> 01:27:49,030
ELIMINATING IT. 

2475
01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:51,399
-- WHAT DO YOU WANT TO START, 

2476
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:53,034
-- CHIEF SALES OR, OR AND IF YOU

2477
01:27:53,034 --> 01:27:53,768
COULD JUST GIVE ME AN EYE 

2478
01:27:53,768 --> 01:27:55,270
BECAUSE WE MISSED A STATEMENT 

2479
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:56,504
OVER HERE FROM DIRECTOR PANUCCI 

2480
01:27:56,504 --> 01:27:57,405
A SECOND AGO, WE'LL COME BACK TO

2481
01:27:57,405 --> 01:28:00,508
YOU IN A MINUTE, THOUGH, CHIEF. 

2482
01:28:00,508 --> 01:28:02,010
-- I'LL JUST KICK US OFF. SO 

2483
01:28:02,010 --> 01:28:04,612
THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO HIRE SIX 

2484
01:28:04,612 --> 01:28:06,881
FTES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY FUNDED

2485
01:28:06,881 --> 01:28:08,750
IN THE 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET. 

2486
01:28:08,750 --> 01:28:11,319
SORRY, ADOPTED BUDGET. THEY ARE 

2487
01:28:11,319 --> 01:28:13,888
ALSO TO BE FUNDED IN THE 2027 

2488
01:28:13,888 --> 01:28:15,590
PROPOSED BUDGET. THAT WOULD GIVE

2489
01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:20,161
US A TOTAL OF 21 FTE IN THE REAL

2490
01:28:20,161 --> 01:28:21,462
TIME CRIME CENTER AND FUND US AT

2491
01:28:21,462 --> 01:28:24,232
A LEVEL OF ABOUT $3 MILLION. 

2492
01:28:24,232 --> 01:28:29,137
-- AND WHAT ABOUT 2028? AND THEN

2493
01:28:29,137 --> 01:28:30,471
WHAT IMPACTS WILL THIS HAVE IN 

2494
01:28:30,471 --> 01:28:32,907
TERMS OF THE THE WORK AND THE 

2495
01:28:32,907 --> 01:28:34,275
ABILITY TO INVESTIGATE CRIME? 

2496
01:28:34,275 --> 01:28:36,544
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A 

2497
01:28:36,544 --> 01:28:37,645
HUGE REASON WHY WE HAVE THE REAL

2498
01:28:37,645 --> 01:28:39,314
TIME CRIME CENTER TO BEGIN WITH.

2499
01:28:39,314 --> 01:28:41,716
-- FUNDING CONTINUES INTO 2028 

2500
01:28:41,716 --> 01:28:43,518
AT THE SAME. TO FUND THE SAME 

2501
01:28:43,518 --> 01:28:47,522
NUMBER OF FTE 21 AS IN THE 

2502
01:28:47,522 --> 01:28:51,693
PROPOSED 2027 BUDGET. AND AS I 

2503
01:28:51,693 --> 01:28:53,861
MENTIONED IN MY REMARKS, WE 

2504
01:28:53,861 --> 01:28:57,165
WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO 247. IF 

2505
01:28:57,165 --> 01:28:58,933
THE DECISION IS MADE TO DO THAT.

2506
01:28:58,933 --> 01:29:00,134
-- DIRECTOR, DO YOU HAVE 

2507
01:29:00,134 --> 01:29:01,669
ANYTHING TO ADD HERE? NO, THANK 

2508
01:29:01,669 --> 01:29:04,138
YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA 

2509
01:29:04,138 --> 01:29:06,474
FLOOR'S STILL YOURS. 

2510
01:29:06,474 --> 01:29:09,110
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

2511
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:11,479
STRAUSS I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION 

2512
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,247
ABOUT THE POS. I KNOW THAT WE 

2513
01:29:13,247 --> 01:29:14,549
HAVE HAD ISSUES BEING ABLE TO 

2514
01:29:14,549 --> 01:29:18,019
FILL THESE POSITIONS, BUT WHAT 

2515
01:29:18,019 --> 01:29:18,686
RECRUITMENT EFFORTS HAVE WE HAD 

2516
01:29:18,686 --> 01:29:20,354
FOR P E Os THERE ARE AN 

2517
01:29:20,354 --> 01:29:21,989
IMPORTANT PART OF THE POLICE 

2518
01:29:21,989 --> 01:29:24,992
DEPARTMENT. WE KNOW WE'VE HAD 

2519
01:29:24,992 --> 01:29:30,264
ISSUES DEALING WITH EVEN RVS 

2520
01:29:30,264 --> 01:29:32,600
THAT ARE ENGAGED IN ILLEGAL 

2521
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,970
ACTIVITY AND THE ABILITY TO BE 

2522
01:29:35,970 --> 01:29:38,806
ABLE TO ENFORCE. WE RELY ON 

2523
01:29:38,806 --> 01:29:40,108
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR

2524
01:29:40,108 --> 01:29:41,376
THAT. SO WHAT IMPACT WILL THIS 

2525
01:29:41,376 --> 01:29:43,211
HAVE AND WHAT RECRUITMENT 

2526
01:29:43,211 --> 01:29:45,046
EFFORTS FIRST, WHAT RECRUITMENT 

2527
01:29:45,046 --> 01:29:46,781
EFFORTS HAVE BEEN DONE? BECAUSE 

2528
01:29:46,781 --> 01:29:47,982
WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE'RE NOT 

2529
01:29:47,982 --> 01:29:49,417
ABLE TO HIRE THEM. SO WE WE 

2530
01:29:49,417 --> 01:29:52,720
SHOULD ABROGATE THEM. AT THE 

2531
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,190
SAME TIME, WE NEED MORE PEOS. SO

2532
01:29:56,190 --> 01:29:58,326
WHAT HAVE THE RECRUITMENT 

2533
01:29:58,326 --> 01:30:00,161
EFFORTS HAVE BEEN THAT WE NOW 

2534
01:30:00,161 --> 01:30:01,462
HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO GIVE 

2535
01:30:01,462 --> 01:30:02,997
UP ON HIRING THEM? 

2536
01:30:02,997 --> 01:30:04,899
-- I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE

2537
01:30:04,899 --> 01:30:06,801
RECRUITMENT EFFORTS, BUT I KNOW 

2538
01:30:06,801 --> 01:30:08,770
SPEAKING WITH C O SMITH AND I 

2539
01:30:08,770 --> 01:30:12,607
OVER THE LAST WEEK, WE LOOKED AT

2540
01:30:12,607 --> 01:30:14,408
SOME WAYS TO FIX THAT PROBLEM 

2541
01:30:14,408 --> 01:30:15,409
WITH THE PEOS. THERE ARE SOME 

2542
01:30:15,409 --> 01:30:18,513
THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO 

2543
01:30:18,513 --> 01:30:20,081
LOOK AT. HISTORICALLY. IF WE HAD

2544
01:30:20,081 --> 01:30:23,217
TEN VACANCIES, WE WOULD GIVE OUT

2545
01:30:23,217 --> 01:30:26,954
TEN OFFERS TO PEOPLE AND THEN 

2546
01:30:26,954 --> 01:30:28,523
SAY FIVE OF THEM DIDN'T MAKE IT

2547
01:30:28,523 --> 01:30:29,323
THROUGH BACKGROUND. SO THERE'S 

2548
01:30:29,323 --> 01:30:30,291
WAYS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO 

2549
01:30:30,291 --> 01:30:32,093
INCREASE THAT IN REGARDS TO 

2550
01:30:32,093 --> 01:30:33,828
GIVING OUT MORE CONDITIONAL 

2551
01:30:33,828 --> 01:30:35,196
OFFERS. AND IF WE LOSE PEOPLE IN

2552
01:30:35,196 --> 01:30:36,297
THE BACKGROUND PROCESS, WE'RE 

2553
01:30:36,297 --> 01:30:37,331
NOT JUST STARTING BACK OVER AND 

2554
01:30:37,331 --> 01:30:38,966
TRYING TO RECRUIT MORE PEOPLE. 

2555
01:30:38,966 --> 01:30:40,101
SO THAT'S A WAY THAT WE CAN 

2556
01:30:40,101 --> 01:30:41,402
LOOK AT DOING THAT. BUT I WOULD 

2557
01:30:41,402 --> 01:30:42,904
HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING

2558
01:30:42,904 --> 01:30:44,405
FOR THE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS TO 

2559
01:30:44,405 --> 01:30:45,907
SEE IF WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH 

2560
01:30:45,907 --> 01:30:48,242
WHAT WE WANT TO DO AS A CITY. I 

2561
01:30:48,242 --> 01:30:50,244
THINK IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT 

2562
01:30:50,244 --> 01:30:51,345
WITH LOSING THOSE POSITIONS, BUT

2563
01:30:51,345 --> 01:30:53,214
A LOT OF THOSE POSITIONS HAVE 

2564
01:30:53,214 --> 01:30:54,682
BEEN VACANT FOR YEARS, SO IT WAS

2565
01:30:54,682 --> 01:30:55,616
SOMETHING WE LOOKED AT WAS LIKE,

2566
01:30:55,616 --> 01:30:57,919
IF WE'RE NOT FILLING THOSE 

2567
01:30:57,919 --> 01:30:59,287
SPOTS, WE'RE JUST MAINTAINING 

2568
01:30:59,287 --> 01:31:00,655
THINGS AND HAVING THINGS IN OUR 

2569
01:31:00,655 --> 01:31:04,358
BUDGET THAT APPEARS TO BE AN 

2570
01:31:04,358 --> 01:31:04,625
EASY FIX. 

2571
01:31:04,625 --> 01:31:06,093
-- THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. ANYTHING

2572
01:31:06,093 --> 01:31:09,897
TO ADD THERE? COUNCILMEMBER 

2573
01:31:09,897 --> 01:31:10,131
RIVERA. 

2574
01:31:10,131 --> 01:31:12,500
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

2575
01:31:12,500 --> 01:31:13,501
STRAUSS. SO, INTERIM CHIEF 

2576
01:31:13,501 --> 01:31:15,136
SAYLES, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT 

2577
01:31:15,136 --> 01:31:16,504
THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT TO 

2578
01:31:16,504 --> 01:31:17,872
LOSING THE POSITIONS, AND YOU'LL

2579
01:31:17,872 --> 01:31:19,974
HAVE TO GET BACK TO ME ON WHAT 

2580
01:31:19,974 --> 01:31:20,575
THE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS HAVE 

2581
01:31:20,575 --> 01:31:22,910
BEEN, IF ANY. YES, I THINK 

2582
01:31:22,910 --> 01:31:24,679
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE

2583
01:31:24,679 --> 01:31:29,116
OBVIOUSLY WE NEED THIS FUNCTION 

2584
01:31:29,116 --> 01:31:32,620
AT THE DEPARTMENT. THE DEI 

2585
01:31:32,620 --> 01:31:34,822
OFFICER AND 30 BY 30 POSITIONS 

2586
01:31:34,822 --> 01:31:36,757
THAT ARE BEING ABROGATED. 

2587
01:31:36,757 --> 01:31:38,159
OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED A POLICE 

2588
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:39,093
DEPARTMENT THAT LOOKS LIKE THE 

2589
01:31:39,093 --> 01:31:40,194
PEOPLE THEY ARE SERVING. SO I 

2590
01:31:40,194 --> 01:31:41,929
WANT TO KNOW WHAT IMPACTS THIS 

2591
01:31:41,929 --> 01:31:43,898
WILL HAVE, BECAUSE MY 

2592
01:31:43,898 --> 01:31:44,966
UNDERSTANDING IS, DESPITE THE 

2593
01:31:44,966 --> 01:31:48,769
FACT THAT THE THE POSITIONS WERE

2594
01:31:48,769 --> 01:31:50,371
IN THE PRIOR BUDGETS, THEY HAVE 

2595
01:31:50,371 --> 01:31:51,706
NOT BEEN HIRED. I DO NOT KNOW 

2596
01:31:51,706 --> 01:31:55,076
WHY THIS IS STILL AN IMPORTANT 

2597
01:31:55,076 --> 01:31:58,412
BODY OF WORK. AND SO WITH 

2598
01:31:58,412 --> 01:31:59,046
ABROGATING THESE TWO POSITIONS, 

2599
01:31:59,046 --> 01:32:01,048
HOW IS THE DEPARTMENT GOING TO 

2600
01:32:01,048 --> 01:32:04,218
ENGAGE IN THIS WORK TO ENSURE 

2601
01:32:04,218 --> 01:32:07,655
THAT WE'RE RECRUITING FOLKS IN 

2602
01:32:07,655 --> 01:32:08,122
BOTH THESE EFFORTS.? 

2603
01:32:08,122 --> 01:32:10,992
-- AS A PERSON THAT TRULY 

2604
01:32:10,992 --> 01:32:11,626
BELIEVES IN POLICE DEPARTMENTS, 

2605
01:32:11,626 --> 01:32:12,894
LOOKING AND REPRESENTING THE 

2606
01:32:12,894 --> 01:32:14,195
COMMUNITIES THAT THEY SERVE, I 

2607
01:32:14,195 --> 01:32:15,730
THINK THIS IS A GREAT 

2608
01:32:15,730 --> 01:32:19,233
OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR RECRUITMENT 

2609
01:32:19,233 --> 01:32:21,736
TEAM TO READJUST SOME OF OUR 

2610
01:32:21,736 --> 01:32:23,471
RECRUITMENT EFFORTS AND WHERE WE

2611
01:32:23,471 --> 01:32:24,338
GO LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS 

2612
01:32:24,338 --> 01:32:27,508
OF WHERE WE'RE GOING, GETTING IN

2613
01:32:27,508 --> 01:32:28,342
SPACES THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE NOT

2614
01:32:28,342 --> 01:32:30,711
BEEN IN BEFORE, AND REALLY 

2615
01:32:30,711 --> 01:32:31,679
PUTTING FORTH THAT EFFORT AND 

2616
01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:32,513
SAYING, LOOK AT SEATTLE, LOOK AT

2617
01:32:32,513 --> 01:32:35,249
WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER AS A 

2618
01:32:35,249 --> 01:32:36,183
POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING TO THESE

2619
01:32:36,183 --> 01:32:37,685
PLACES. LIKE I MENTIONED 

2620
01:32:37,685 --> 01:32:39,153
EARLIER, I SPOKE WITH MY GOOD 

2621
01:32:39,153 --> 01:32:41,355
FRIEND AARON KARLOFF, WHO'S THE

2622
01:32:41,355 --> 01:32:42,924
SACRAMENTO STATE WOMEN'S 

2623
01:32:42,924 --> 01:32:44,592
BASKETBALL COACH. I'M PRETTY 

2624
01:32:44,592 --> 01:32:46,127
SURE HE SAID HE'S NEVER BEEN 

2625
01:32:46,127 --> 01:32:47,728
CONTACTED. BUT AS A QUICK TEXT 

2626
01:32:47,728 --> 01:32:49,130
MESSAGE EXCHANGE FOR ME AND 

2627
01:32:49,130 --> 01:32:52,433
HE'S WAS GOING TO ALASKA TO 

2628
01:32:52,433 --> 01:32:54,168
RECRUIT, AND WE HAD DINNER LAST 

2629
01:32:54,168 --> 01:32:55,870
SUNDAY NIGHT WHEN HE CAME BACK 

2630
01:32:55,870 --> 01:32:57,038
AND TALKED ABOUT SOME STUFF AND 

2631
01:32:57,038 --> 01:32:58,839
WANT TO DO A TEAMS MEETING OR 

2632
01:32:58,839 --> 01:33:00,641
ZOOM MEETING WITH THAT GROUP. I 

2633
01:33:00,641 --> 01:33:03,077
DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THERE 

2634
01:33:03,077 --> 01:33:04,345
SPECIFICALLY, BUT NOW 

2635
01:33:04,345 --> 01:33:06,013
TRANSITIONING THAT OVER TO OUR 

2636
01:33:06,013 --> 01:33:06,614
RECRUITMENT TEAM AND GETTING 

2637
01:33:06,614 --> 01:33:09,450
DOWN THERE AND RECRUITING THOSE 

2638
01:33:09,450 --> 01:33:11,886
WOMEN WITH THE DEI STUFF GOING 

2639
01:33:11,886 --> 01:33:12,520
TO DIFFERENT HISTORICALLY BLACK 

2640
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,355
COLLEGES, SPECIFICALLY GOING 

2641
01:33:14,355 --> 01:33:15,790
INTO DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS THAT

2642
01:33:15,790 --> 01:33:17,391
WE PROBABLY HAVEN'T WENT INTO 

2643
01:33:17,391 --> 01:33:18,726
BEFORE, BEING A RECRUITER AND 

2644
01:33:18,726 --> 01:33:20,428
MYSELF IN THE PAST AT MY 

2645
01:33:20,428 --> 01:33:21,963
PREVIOUS AGENCY, GOING TO SOME 

2646
01:33:21,963 --> 01:33:24,198
OF OUR TWO YEAR COLLEGES AND 

2647
01:33:24,198 --> 01:33:25,700
LOOKING AT INDIVIDUALS THAT ONLY

2648
01:33:25,700 --> 01:33:27,835
WANT AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, 

2649
01:33:27,835 --> 01:33:30,905
GETTING THOSE SPACES, BUMPING UP

2650
01:33:30,905 --> 01:33:33,874
OUR EXPLORERS PROGRAM, WE MET 

2651
01:33:33,874 --> 01:33:34,508
WITH THE EAST AFRICAN COMMUNITY 

2652
01:33:34,508 --> 01:33:35,076
YESTERDAY. WE SEEN THAT WE 

2653
01:33:35,076 --> 01:33:36,210
DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF EAST 

2654
01:33:36,210 --> 01:33:37,645
AFRICAN STUDENTS AND OUR 

2655
01:33:37,645 --> 01:33:40,348
EXPLORERS PROGRAM. SO GETTING TO

2656
01:33:40,348 --> 01:33:41,916
SOME OF OUR KIDS HERE IN THE 

2657
01:33:41,916 --> 01:33:43,351
CITY AT AN EARLIER AGE AND 

2658
01:33:43,351 --> 01:33:44,785
GETTING THEM THROUGH THE 

2659
01:33:44,785 --> 01:33:45,753
PIPELINE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE 

2660
01:33:45,753 --> 01:33:47,355
ANOTHER AVENUE THAT WE CAN USE 

2661
01:33:47,355 --> 01:33:49,490
FOR RECRUITMENT. BUT LOOKING AT 

2662
01:33:49,490 --> 01:33:50,424
WAYS AND LOOKING AT PLACES WE 

2663
01:33:50,424 --> 01:33:52,760
HAVEN'T BEEN BEFORE AND PUTTING

2664
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,829
OUR, OUR, OUR LOGO OUT THERE IN 

2665
01:33:54,829 --> 01:33:57,631
THOSE SPACES AND HAVING OUR 

2666
01:33:57,631 --> 01:33:57,999
OFFICERS TALK. 

2667
01:33:57,999 --> 01:33:59,967
-- THANK YOU, INTERIM CHIEF 

2668
01:33:59,967 --> 01:34:01,168
SAYLES. I APPRECIATE ALL THOSE 

2669
01:34:01,168 --> 01:34:02,370
EFFORTS, I SUPPORT IT. I WILL 

2670
01:34:02,370 --> 01:34:04,739
SAY THAT WE PUT THESE POSITIONS 

2671
01:34:04,739 --> 01:34:06,907
IN HERE TO DO THE VERY THING 

2672
01:34:06,907 --> 01:34:08,442
THAT YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT.

2673
01:34:08,442 --> 01:34:10,578
SO WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE. I 

2674
01:34:10,578 --> 01:34:12,179
DON'T KNOW HOW WHAT ABILITY YOU

2675
01:34:12,179 --> 01:34:13,280
WILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT 

2676
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,950
YOU JUST SAID WITHOUT THESE TWO 

2677
01:34:15,950 --> 01:34:18,486
POSITIONS, BECAUSE AS I SAID, 

2678
01:34:18,486 --> 01:34:19,353
PRIOR CHIEFS HAD SAID SIMILAR TO

2679
01:34:19,353 --> 01:34:20,755
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND THAT'S

2680
01:34:20,755 --> 01:34:22,189
WHY THE POSITIONS WERE THERE TO 

2681
01:34:22,189 --> 01:34:24,091
HELP DO THAT WORK, BECAUSE WE 

2682
01:34:24,091 --> 01:34:26,627
UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T YOU CAN'T 

2683
01:34:26,627 --> 01:34:28,929
BE DO ALL THAT WORK BY YOURSELF.

2684
01:34:28,929 --> 01:34:31,565
AND AND THAT'S WHY. SO JUST 

2685
01:34:31,565 --> 01:34:34,168
WANT TO LEAVE THAT THERE AND 

2686
01:34:34,168 --> 01:34:35,736
THEN. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2687
01:34:35,736 --> 01:34:37,438
STRAUSS, FOR YOUR GRACE. I JUST 

2688
01:34:37,438 --> 01:34:41,609
HAVE ONE LAST THING I WANT TO 

2689
01:34:41,609 --> 01:34:43,177
SAY, WHICH IS WE CANNOT. IT IS 

2690
01:34:43,177 --> 01:34:45,246
TRUE. I AGREE COUNCILMEMBER 

2691
01:34:45,246 --> 01:34:46,247
JUAREZ WE CAN'T ARREST OUR WAY 

2692
01:34:46,247 --> 01:34:47,748
OUT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE 

2693
01:34:47,748 --> 01:34:49,583
SEEING, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO 

2694
01:34:49,583 --> 01:34:51,085
GUN VIOLENCE. WE ALSO CANNOT 

2695
01:34:51,085 --> 01:34:53,320
SERVICE OUR WAY RELATED TO THE 

2696
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,489
GUN VIOLENCE ISSUES EITHER. 

2697
01:34:55,489 --> 01:34:58,059
IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH, AND

2698
01:34:58,059 --> 01:34:58,859
THIS IS WHY COLLEAGUES, YOU 

2699
01:34:58,859 --> 01:35:00,461
KNOW, I FELT SO STRONGLY I'VE 

2700
01:35:00,461 --> 01:35:02,363
BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST YEAR 

2701
01:35:02,363 --> 01:35:05,366
ON THIS NATIONAL NETWORK FOR 

2702
01:35:05,366 --> 01:35:09,070
SAFE COMMUNITIES, GUN VIOLENCE 

2703
01:35:09,070 --> 01:35:10,137
FOCUSED DETERRENCE EFFORT. AS I 

2704
01:35:10,137 --> 01:35:12,807
KEEP SAYING, THEY'RE THE FOLKS 

2705
01:35:12,807 --> 01:35:14,141
THAT THAT THE THE PERSON THAT 

2706
01:35:14,141 --> 01:35:16,644
FOUNDED THAT ORGANIZATION 

2707
01:35:16,644 --> 01:35:19,146
ACTUALLY CREATED THE FOCUSED 

2708
01:35:19,146 --> 01:35:19,847
DETERRENCE STRATEGY. THAT'S WHY

2709
01:35:19,847 --> 01:35:21,482
I WANT TO BRING THEM TO SEATTLE.

2710
01:35:21,482 --> 01:35:24,385
I NOTICED THAT DESPITE THE FACT 

2711
01:35:24,385 --> 01:35:27,455
THAT WE DID PASS, COUNCIL PASSED

2712
01:35:27,455 --> 01:35:30,357
A RESOLUTION WITH A HIGH SUPPORT

2713
01:35:30,357 --> 01:35:32,660
FOR BRINGING THIS EFFORT TO 

2714
01:35:32,660 --> 01:35:36,497
SEATTLE. THE MAYOR DID NOT 

2715
01:35:36,497 --> 01:35:37,398
INCLUDE THE $418,000 OVER THE 

2716
01:35:37,398 --> 01:35:41,769
BIENNIUM, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER

2717
01:35:41,769 --> 01:35:43,771
200,000 EACH YEAR. IT'S A ONE 

2718
01:35:43,771 --> 01:35:46,073
TIME AD TO BRING THIS EFFORT 

2719
01:35:46,073 --> 01:35:47,108
HERE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE 

2720
01:35:47,108 --> 01:35:49,143
BUDGET. SO I WANT TO SAY THAT 

2721
01:35:49,143 --> 01:35:51,212
FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC'S FOR 

2722
01:35:51,212 --> 01:35:52,480
CONSTITUENTS WHO MAY BE 

2723
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:54,048
WATCHING. AND I ALSO WANT TO 

2724
01:35:54,048 --> 01:35:55,616
LEVEL SET SOMETHING BECAUSE I 

2725
01:35:55,616 --> 01:35:58,052
THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I 

2726
01:35:58,052 --> 01:36:00,788
UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAYOR HAS A 

2727
01:36:00,788 --> 01:36:05,092
GUN VIOLENCE PLAN THAT SHE'S 

2728
01:36:05,092 --> 01:36:06,894
REVEALED. AND I KNOW THAT MY 

2729
01:36:06,894 --> 01:36:08,262
COLLEAGUE COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE 

2730
01:36:08,262 --> 01:36:11,966
HAS SPOKEN TO IT TODAY. I WILL 

2731
01:36:11,966 --> 01:36:14,335
SAY IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT NOT 

2732
01:36:14,335 --> 01:36:17,138
TO KEEP USING THE TERM FOCUSED 

2733
01:36:17,138 --> 01:36:19,073
DETERRENCE FOR EFFORTS THAT ARE 

2734
01:36:19,073 --> 01:36:22,009
NOT ACTUALLY FOCUSED DETERRENCE.

2735
01:36:22,009 --> 01:36:23,811
AND THE REASON WHY IS THE 

2736
01:36:23,811 --> 01:36:25,312
NATIONAL NETWORK FOR SAFE 

2737
01:36:25,312 --> 01:36:27,815
COMMUNITIES HAS MADE IT VERY 

2738
01:36:27,815 --> 01:36:30,317
CLEAR THAT IF YOU DO NOT 

2739
01:36:30,317 --> 01:36:31,752
IMPLEMENT FOCUSED DETERRENCE, 

2740
01:36:31,752 --> 01:36:32,920
THE THE WAY THAT IT WAS MEANT TO

2741
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:37,992
BE IMPLEMENTED, SUCH AS THEIR 

2742
01:36:37,992 --> 01:36:40,628
EFFORT, THEN IT ACTUALLY CAN 

2743
01:36:40,628 --> 01:36:45,699
LEAD TO MORE HARM THAN GOOD. AND

2744
01:36:45,699 --> 01:36:47,401
SO I THINK, AND I, AND I 

2745
01:36:47,401 --> 01:36:48,836
APPRECIATE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT

2746
01:36:48,836 --> 01:36:53,474
FOLKS WANT TO TALK ABOUT FOCUSED

2747
01:36:53,474 --> 01:36:54,108
DETERRENCE AS THIS GENERIC THING

2748
01:36:54,108 --> 01:36:55,776
THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL THE THINGS 

2749
01:36:55,776 --> 01:36:58,979
THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT IT IS 

2750
01:36:58,979 --> 01:37:00,648
NOT. IT ALSO DOESN'T TAKE AWAY 

2751
01:37:00,648 --> 01:37:02,049
FROM ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE 

2752
01:37:02,049 --> 01:37:03,150
DOING. WE NEED ALL OF IT. WE 

2753
01:37:03,150 --> 01:37:07,254
NEED MORE TOOLS. WE NEED EVERY 

2754
01:37:07,254 --> 01:37:09,256
SINGLE TOOL, AND WE NEED THIS 

2755
01:37:09,256 --> 01:37:12,193
SPECIFIC TYPE OF FOCUSED 

2756
01:37:12,193 --> 01:37:14,728
DETERRENCE. SO IT IS, IN MY 

2757
01:37:14,728 --> 01:37:19,967
OPINION, REALLY IT IS NOT THE 

2758
01:37:19,967 --> 01:37:22,670
RIGHT APPROACH TO KEEP USING THE

2759
01:37:22,670 --> 01:37:24,638
TERM FOCUS DETERRENCE TO TALK 

2760
01:37:24,638 --> 01:37:25,940
ABOUT OTHER GENERIC THINGS THAT 

2761
01:37:25,940 --> 01:37:28,142
WE MIGHT BE DOING RELATED TO GUN

2762
01:37:28,142 --> 01:37:29,977
VIOLENCE. IT'S CONFUSING. AND 

2763
01:37:29,977 --> 01:37:32,947
THEN WHEN IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN

2764
01:37:32,947 --> 01:37:34,715
FOLKS ARE GOING TO SAY, OH, THAT

2765
01:37:34,715 --> 01:37:37,952
FOCUS DETERRENCE THING DIDN'T 

2766
01:37:37,952 --> 01:37:41,155
WORK. AND THAT'S NOT OKAY. SO 

2767
01:37:41,155 --> 01:37:43,290
WE CAN SAY, WE CAN KEEP TALKING 

2768
01:37:43,290 --> 01:37:44,625
ABOUT ALL THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE

2769
01:37:44,625 --> 01:37:46,160
CURRENTLY DOING. FOR YEARS, THE 

2770
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:47,995
CITY HAS BEEN FUNDING COMMUNITY 

2771
01:37:47,995 --> 01:37:51,532
SAFETY PROGRAMS. WE NEED THOSE. 

2772
01:37:51,532 --> 01:37:53,767
BUT THOSE PROGRAMS ARE NOT 

2773
01:37:53,767 --> 01:37:54,401
FOCUSED DETERRENCE. SO WE NEED 

2774
01:37:54,401 --> 01:37:56,537
TO ADD SOMETHING THAT WE 

2775
01:37:56,537 --> 01:37:57,938
HAVEN'T DONE. AND THAT'S WHY I

2776
01:37:57,938 --> 01:38:00,541
WAS VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THE 

2777
01:38:00,541 --> 01:38:01,976
NATIONAL NETWORK FOR SAFE 

2778
01:38:01,976 --> 01:38:05,479
COMMUNITIES, FOCUSED DETERRENCE 

2779
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:06,847
STRATEGY. IF IF THE MAYOR 

2780
01:38:06,847 --> 01:38:09,116
DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT AND SHE 

2781
01:38:09,116 --> 01:38:11,785
SHE HAS NOT COMMITTED TO DOING 

2782
01:38:11,785 --> 01:38:13,587
THIS, CLEARLY DIDN'T PUT IT IN 

2783
01:38:13,587 --> 01:38:15,689
THE BUDGET. SHE'S NOT COMMITTED

2784
01:38:15,689 --> 01:38:16,523
TO DOING THIS. THEN SHE JUST 

2785
01:38:16,523 --> 01:38:18,525
NEEDS TO SAY SO. BUT I DON'T 

2786
01:38:18,525 --> 01:38:21,295
THINK IT'S OKAY FOR HER TO KEEP

2787
01:38:21,295 --> 01:38:23,163
USING THE TERM FOCUSED 

2788
01:38:23,163 --> 01:38:25,099
DETERRENCE, WHEN THAT'S NOT 

2789
01:38:25,099 --> 01:38:30,604
REALLY WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT

2790
01:38:30,604 --> 01:38:32,473
THAT'S NOT OKAY. SO IN THIS 

2791
01:38:32,473 --> 01:38:34,675
BUDGET, THERE IS NO FOCUS 

2792
01:38:34,675 --> 01:38:35,676
DETERRENCE STRATEGY. AND I WANT 

2793
01:38:35,676 --> 01:38:39,613
TO SAY IT BECAUSE WE, I, I, I 

2794
01:38:39,613 --> 01:38:40,281
TRIED AND I'VE BEEN WORKING 

2795
01:38:40,281 --> 01:38:42,049
WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SINCE 

2796
01:38:42,049 --> 01:38:43,684
THEY GOT HERE TO TRY THIS 

2797
01:38:43,684 --> 01:38:47,488
STRATEGY HERE. SHE HASN'T 

2798
01:38:47,488 --> 01:38:49,189
WANTED TO DO IT, BUT I THINK THE

2799
01:38:49,189 --> 01:38:50,624
PUBLIC REALLY NEEDS TO KNOW AND 

2800
01:38:50,624 --> 01:38:52,860
THEY NEED TO KNOW IT'S NOT IN 

2801
01:38:52,860 --> 01:38:55,329
THE BUDGET. SO I WILL KEEP 

2802
01:38:55,329 --> 01:38:57,264
TRYING TO MAKE THIS EFFORT HERE 

2803
01:38:57,264 --> 01:38:58,299
IN SEATTLE HAPPEN BECAUSE I 

2804
01:38:58,299 --> 01:38:59,633
THINK IT'S NEEDED. IT'S 

2805
01:38:59,633 --> 01:39:01,268
IMPORTANT. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 

2806
01:39:01,268 --> 01:39:02,403
TOOL. WE NEED ALL THE TOOLS. 

2807
01:39:02,403 --> 01:39:03,671
THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

2808
01:39:03,671 --> 01:39:03,938
STRAUSS. 

2809
01:39:03,938 --> 01:39:06,006
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2810
01:39:06,006 --> 01:39:07,007
RIVERA. DIRECTOR PANUCCI. 

2811
01:39:07,007 --> 01:39:09,576
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR. STRAUSS. I 

2812
01:39:09,576 --> 01:39:10,177
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE 

2813
01:39:10,177 --> 01:39:10,778
RECORD, AND I THINK THIS 

2814
01:39:10,778 --> 01:39:12,379
CONVERSATION IS PROBABLY BETTER 

2815
01:39:12,379 --> 01:39:13,314
HAD WHEN CHIEF BARDEN IS AT THE 

2816
01:39:13,314 --> 01:39:15,716
TABLE FOR THE CARE DEPARTMENT'S

2817
01:39:15,716 --> 01:39:16,951
PRESENTATION. BUT FOR THE 

2818
01:39:16,951 --> 01:39:18,986
RECORD, THERE IS $1.2 MILLION 

2819
01:39:18,986 --> 01:39:20,321
BEING TRANSFERRED FROM THE HUMAN

2820
01:39:20,321 --> 01:39:21,622
SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO SUPPORT 

2821
01:39:21,622 --> 01:39:23,123
THE MAYOR'S GUN VIOLENCE PLAN. 

2822
01:39:23,123 --> 01:39:25,059
ABOUT HALF OF THAT IS TO FUND 

2823
01:39:25,059 --> 01:39:27,561
THREE NEW POSITIONS TO SUPPORT 

2824
01:39:27,561 --> 01:39:28,929
THAT WORK, $300,000 IS FOR CASE 

2825
01:39:28,929 --> 01:39:30,264
MANAGEMENT AND REFERRAL SYSTEM, 

2826
01:39:30,264 --> 01:39:32,366
AND THERE'S A BALANCE OF ABOUT 

2827
01:39:32,366 --> 01:39:34,335
$300,000 EACH YEAR FOR ONGOING 

2828
01:39:34,335 --> 01:39:36,970
PROGRAM EVALUATION. FOCUSED 

2829
01:39:36,970 --> 01:39:39,106
DETERRENCE PROGRAMS, DIRECT 

2830
01:39:39,106 --> 01:39:39,606
INVESTMENTS IN FOCUSED 

2831
01:39:39,606 --> 01:39:40,674
DETERRENCE STRATEGIES. SO THERE 

2832
01:39:40,674 --> 01:39:42,876
IS FUNDING IN THE BUDGET. AND 

2833
01:39:42,876 --> 01:39:45,546
ALSO JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT 

2834
01:39:45,546 --> 01:39:46,113
RESPECTFULLY, COUNCILMEMBER 

2835
01:39:46,113 --> 01:39:46,914
RIVERA, THE RESOLUTION WAS 

2836
01:39:46,914 --> 01:39:48,582
PASSED ON SEPTEMBER 15th. AND I 

2837
01:39:48,582 --> 01:39:49,283
KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT

2838
01:39:49,283 --> 01:39:50,751
THIS, YOU'VE BEEN ON THE 

2839
01:39:50,751 --> 01:39:53,354
EXECUTIVE SIDE FROM AYE FOR THE 

2840
01:39:53,354 --> 01:39:55,055
BUDGET OFFICE. THIS IS JUST 

2841
01:39:55,055 --> 01:39:56,557
PURELY A TECHNICAL THING. WE ARE

2842
01:39:56,557 --> 01:39:58,492
NOT MAKING CHANGES TO THE BUDGET

2843
01:39:58,492 --> 01:40:00,027
AT THAT POINT, BUT BEING AWARE 

2844
01:40:00,027 --> 01:40:02,229
OF THIS CONVERSATION THERE IS 

2845
01:40:02,229 --> 01:40:03,697
THAT FUNDING IN THE BUDGET. 

2846
01:40:03,697 --> 01:40:05,632
THANK YOU. 

2847
01:40:05,632 --> 01:40:07,668
-- COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA ANY LAST

2848
01:40:07,668 --> 01:40:07,935
COMMENTS? 

2849
01:40:07,935 --> 01:40:09,870
-- THANK YOU. SO ARE YOU SAYING 

2850
01:40:09,870 --> 01:40:10,938
THAT THERE'S FUNDING IN THE 

2851
01:40:10,938 --> 01:40:12,573
BUDGET FOR THE NATIONAL NETWORK 

2852
01:40:12,573 --> 01:40:14,975
FOR SAFE COMMUNITIES PARTNERSHIP

2853
01:40:14,975 --> 01:40:17,845
FOR THEIR FOCUS DETERRENCE 

2854
01:40:17,845 --> 01:40:18,112
STRATEGY? 

2855
01:40:18,112 --> 01:40:19,580
-- NO, I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S 

2856
01:40:19,580 --> 01:40:21,348
MONEY FOR A SPECIFIC EARMARKED 

2857
01:40:21,348 --> 01:40:22,649
ORGANIZATION. I'M SAYING 

2858
01:40:22,649 --> 01:40:23,417
THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE TO 

2859
01:40:23,417 --> 01:40:25,085
MAKE THAT TYPE OF AN INVESTMENT 

2860
01:40:25,085 --> 01:40:27,020
IN AN ORGANIZATION THAT COULD 

2861
01:40:27,020 --> 01:40:27,588
PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT TO THE 

2862
01:40:27,588 --> 01:40:30,057
CITY. IF THAT IS THE DECISION. 

2863
01:40:30,057 --> 01:40:31,024
BUT I THINK THAT COUNCIL, I 

2864
01:40:31,024 --> 01:40:32,126
WOULD LIKE CHIEF BARDEN TO TALK 

2865
01:40:32,126 --> 01:40:33,727
MORE ON THE SUBSTANCE BECAUSE 

2866
01:40:33,727 --> 01:40:35,596
THAT'S I'M TALKING THE BUDGET 

2867
01:40:35,596 --> 01:40:36,196
HERE, THE NUMBERS PART, BUT I 

2868
01:40:36,196 --> 01:40:38,065
THINK IT WOULD BE THE 

2869
01:40:38,065 --> 01:40:38,999
SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATION ON. 

2870
01:40:38,999 --> 01:40:42,236
THAT WOULD BE BETTER HELD WITH 

2871
01:40:42,236 --> 01:40:42,569
CHIEF BARDEN. 

2872
01:40:42,569 --> 01:40:45,839
-- THANK YOU. ALI. AGAIN, I WANT

2873
01:40:45,839 --> 01:40:47,875
TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT 

2874
01:40:47,875 --> 01:40:50,210
SAYING YOU'RE DOING FOCUSED 

2875
01:40:50,210 --> 01:40:50,911
DETERRENCE DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE

2876
01:40:50,911 --> 01:40:51,745
ACTUALLY DOING FOCUSED 

2877
01:40:51,745 --> 01:40:53,280
DETERRENCE. IT IS A STRATEGY. 

2878
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,683
IT'S A SPECIFIC STRATEGY. 

2879
01:40:56,683 --> 01:40:59,319
AGAIN, CREATED BY THE FOUNDER OF

2880
01:40:59,319 --> 01:41:01,355
THE NATIONAL NETWORK FOR SAFE 

2881
01:41:01,355 --> 01:41:03,624
COMMUNITIES, WHICH IS WHY I 

2882
01:41:03,624 --> 01:41:05,559
SPENT A YEAR WORKING ON THIS 

2883
01:41:05,559 --> 01:41:06,260
EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE

2884
01:41:06,260 --> 01:41:09,229
GOING TO GET THIS RIGHT. AND 

2885
01:41:09,229 --> 01:41:10,230
THAT'S WHY THAT IS WHAT I 

2886
01:41:10,230 --> 01:41:12,166
WANTED TO SEE IN THE BUDGET. AND

2887
01:41:12,166 --> 01:41:13,867
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE SAYING

2888
01:41:13,867 --> 01:41:17,237
THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN 

2889
01:41:17,237 --> 01:41:17,905
TALKING TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 

2890
01:41:17,905 --> 01:41:19,807
ABOUT THIS EFFORT FOR MOST OF 

2891
01:41:19,807 --> 01:41:22,142
THIS YEAR. SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN

2892
01:41:22,142 --> 01:41:22,676
INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET IF 

2893
01:41:22,676 --> 01:41:24,678
THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTED TO 

2894
01:41:24,678 --> 01:41:25,312
PRIORITIZE. AND THE LAST THING I

2895
01:41:25,312 --> 01:41:29,249
WILL SAY IS, UP UNTIL THE MAYOR 

2896
01:41:29,249 --> 01:41:30,150
SUBMITS, BECAUSE I DID WORK IN 

2897
01:41:30,150 --> 01:41:31,952
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND I WAS IN

2898
01:41:31,952 --> 01:41:34,455
OPERATIONS LEAD, I KNOW THAT UP 

2899
01:41:34,455 --> 01:41:38,058
TO THE POINT THAT THE MAYOR 

2900
01:41:38,058 --> 01:41:38,692
SUBMITS THE BUDGET TO COUNCIL, 

2901
01:41:38,692 --> 01:41:39,960
THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES IF THAT'S

2902
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,897
WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, 

2903
01:41:43,897 --> 01:41:44,465
PARTICULARLY FOR SOMETHING 

2904
01:41:44,465 --> 01:41:45,799
SMALL, AS THIS TYPE OF 

2905
01:41:45,799 --> 01:41:46,934
INVESTMENT. YOU COULD HAVE EVEN 

2906
01:41:46,934 --> 01:41:50,304
PUT IT INTO THE THE CARE, IF 

2907
01:41:50,304 --> 01:41:52,906
THAT'S WELL, REALLY YOU CAN'T 

2908
01:41:52,906 --> 01:41:54,108
BECAUSE IT IS A A CONTRACT THAT 

2909
01:41:54,108 --> 01:41:55,442
WOULD HAVE TO BE WITH THE 

2910
01:41:55,442 --> 01:41:56,777
MAYOR'S OFFICE. THAT'S THE 

2911
01:41:56,777 --> 01:41:58,912
EFFORT. BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE CAN

2912
01:41:58,912 --> 01:42:02,916
AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT. IF 

2913
01:42:02,916 --> 01:42:03,817
SHE HAD WANTED TO DO THIS, SHE 

2914
01:42:03,817 --> 01:42:06,520
COULD HAVE, BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT

2915
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:07,654
LAST MINUTE. THAT IS WHAT I'M 

2916
01:42:07,654 --> 01:42:08,789
TRYING TO SAY. I'VE BEEN TRYING

2917
01:42:08,789 --> 01:42:11,458
TO WORK WITH THEM ALL YEAR. SHE 

2918
01:42:11,458 --> 01:42:13,293
CHOSE TO DO DIFFERENTLY. THAT IS

2919
01:42:13,293 --> 01:42:14,962
HER PREROGATIVE, BUT I THINK THE

2920
01:42:14,962 --> 01:42:16,296
PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW. THANK 

2921
01:42:16,296 --> 01:42:16,497
YOU. 

2922
01:42:16,497 --> 01:42:18,732
-- THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO KEEP

2923
01:42:18,732 --> 01:42:19,366
US MOVING. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 

2924
01:42:19,366 --> 01:42:20,067
AYE. SEE YOU'VE GOT YOUR HAND. 

2925
01:42:20,067 --> 01:42:22,469
AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT AFTER. 

2926
01:42:22,469 --> 01:42:23,337
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK 

2927
01:42:23,337 --> 01:42:28,208
YOU, INTERIM CHIEF SALES. REALLY

2928
01:42:28,208 --> 01:42:28,842
APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND 

2929
01:42:28,842 --> 01:42:33,113
OVERVIEW HERE ALSO APPRECIATE 

2930
01:42:33,113 --> 01:42:34,348
THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND SHOUT OUT

2931
01:42:34,348 --> 01:42:36,917
TO CAPTAIN BEYER AND CAPTAIN 

2932
01:42:36,917 --> 01:42:40,821
HEIDI TUTTLE I TOO WANT TO SHOUT

2933
01:42:40,821 --> 01:42:42,589
OUT CAPTAIN BEYER AND CAPTAIN 

2934
01:42:42,589 --> 01:42:43,557
TUTTLE. CAPTAIN BEYER IS A 

2935
01:42:43,557 --> 01:42:46,226
SOUTHWEST PRECINCT COMMANDER. 

2936
01:42:46,226 --> 01:42:49,796
AND HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY 

2937
01:42:49,796 --> 01:42:51,265
HELPFUL PARTNER TO ME AND MY 

2938
01:42:51,265 --> 01:42:54,801
OFFICE. AND ADDRESSING PUBLIC 

2939
01:42:54,801 --> 01:42:56,537
SAFETY ISSUES, RESPONDING TO 

2940
01:42:56,537 --> 01:42:58,805
CONSTITUENTS, HAVING CANDID 

2941
01:42:58,805 --> 01:42:59,840
CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT'S 

2942
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:03,644
DOABLE IN SOME CASES, WHAT'S NOT

2943
01:43:03,644 --> 01:43:04,945
BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF LACK OF 

2944
01:43:04,945 --> 01:43:10,517
STAFFING, OFFICER STAFFING. BUT 

2945
01:43:10,517 --> 01:43:13,854
BOTH ARE TERRIFIC LEADERS IN THE

2946
01:43:13,854 --> 01:43:16,723
DEPARTMENT. AND YOU, INTERIM 

2947
01:43:16,723 --> 01:43:18,825
CHIEF AND EVERY CHIEF BEFORE AND

2948
01:43:18,825 --> 01:43:20,827
EVERY CHIEF AFTER ARE INCREDIBLY

2949
01:43:20,827 --> 01:43:22,930
LUCKY TO HAVE WOMEN LIKE CAPTAIN

2950
01:43:22,930 --> 01:43:25,299
BEYER AND CAPTAIN TUTTLE TO BE 

2951
01:43:25,299 --> 01:43:27,367
ABLE TO WORK ALONGSIDE WOMEN 

2952
01:43:27,367 --> 01:43:29,303
LIKE THAT. I ALSO WANT TO PLUS 

2953
01:43:29,303 --> 01:43:36,276
ONE TO A FEW OF MY. WELL EVERY 

2954
01:43:36,276 --> 01:43:37,644
EVERY LAST ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES,

2955
01:43:37,644 --> 01:43:40,314
I'VE AGREED WITH KEY ELEMENTS 

2956
01:43:40,314 --> 01:43:43,350
OF WHAT THEY'VE SAID. SO PLUS 

2957
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:44,518
ONE TO THE ESSENCE OF THAT, 

2958
01:43:44,518 --> 01:43:45,886
HIGHLIGHTING A COUPLE OF THINGS,

2959
01:43:45,886 --> 01:43:48,555
THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING 

2960
01:43:48,555 --> 01:43:49,923
OFFICER RECRUITMENT AND HIRING, 

2961
01:43:49,923 --> 01:43:52,759
MARKETING AND PROMOTIONAL BUDGET

2962
01:43:52,759 --> 01:43:58,498
ACTIVITIES OUR OUR BUDGET AND 

2963
01:43:58,498 --> 01:43:59,967
FORECASTING AND GOALS SHOULD BE,

2964
01:43:59,967 --> 01:44:00,667
AT LEAST INITIALLY IN NEXT 

2965
01:44:00,667 --> 01:44:02,936
PHASE, SHOULD BE MORE MAPPED 

2966
01:44:02,936 --> 01:44:05,872
TOWARDS A 1400 1450 TOTAL PLUS 

2967
01:44:05,872 --> 01:44:08,108
OFFICER MINIMUM, RATHER THAN 

2968
01:44:08,108 --> 01:44:10,010
1250. THE KEY IMPORTANCE OF THE 

2969
01:44:10,010 --> 01:44:14,314
30 BY 30 POSITIONS AND DIE 

2970
01:44:14,314 --> 01:44:17,384
POSITIONS. I MIGHT TAKE A. AS 

2971
01:44:17,384 --> 01:44:19,286
ONE OF ONE OF THE COUNCIL 

2972
01:44:19,286 --> 01:44:20,087
CHAMPIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE 

2973
01:44:20,087 --> 01:44:24,524
OF YEARS ON THAT ISSUE OF 

2974
01:44:24,524 --> 01:44:25,158
ADDRESSING CULTURAL REFORM AND 

2975
01:44:25,158 --> 01:44:28,862
30. BY 30. I HAPPEN TO THINK 

2976
01:44:28,862 --> 01:44:33,400
THAT THOSE KEY POSITIONS ARE A 

2977
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,202
CRITICAL COMPONENT OF A BROADER 

2978
01:44:35,202 --> 01:44:37,471
STRATEGY. THEY ARE AN EFFECTIVE 

2979
01:44:37,471 --> 01:44:39,339
STRATEGY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE 

2980
01:44:39,339 --> 01:44:40,907
SHARED CHALLENGES AND SHARED 

2981
01:44:40,907 --> 01:44:42,776
GOALS THAT WE'RE ALL DRIVING 

2982
01:44:42,776 --> 01:44:45,812
TOWARDS HERE BECAUSE I DON'T 

2983
01:44:45,812 --> 01:44:47,381
THINK THEY'RE THEY'RE IN 

2984
01:44:47,381 --> 01:44:48,915
COMPETITION WITH I DON'T THINK 

2985
01:44:48,915 --> 01:44:51,051
THEY'RE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH

2986
01:44:51,051 --> 01:44:53,720
ANY OTHER EFFORTS TO TO ADDRESS 

2987
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:54,888
THE THE SAME CHALLENGE. WHAT 

2988
01:44:54,888 --> 01:44:55,722
I'VE HEARD FROM THE DEPARTMENT 

2989
01:44:55,722 --> 01:44:57,691
SO FAR AND CHIEF, NOT A KNOCK ON

2990
01:44:57,691 --> 01:44:59,359
YOU PERSONALLY, BUT I'VE HEARD 

2991
01:44:59,359 --> 01:45:01,461
IT FROM EFFECTIVELY FOUR CHIEFS.

2992
01:45:01,461 --> 01:45:04,331
NOW, I'VE HEARD WHEN WHEN 

2993
01:45:04,331 --> 01:45:06,099
CONFRONTED DIRECTLY ABOUT THAT 

2994
01:45:06,099 --> 01:45:11,104
QUESTION, I'VE HEARD A LIST OF 

2995
01:45:11,104 --> 01:45:14,074
ACTIVITIES. I'VE HEARD A LIST 

2996
01:45:14,074 --> 01:45:15,409
OF TACTICS, BUT WHAT I HAVEN'T 

2997
01:45:15,409 --> 01:45:16,877
HEARD AND WHAT IS CRUCIALLY 

2998
01:45:16,877 --> 01:45:24,551
MISSING IS A A COMPREHENSIVE 

2999
01:45:24,551 --> 01:45:27,521
PLAN AND STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE

3000
01:45:27,521 --> 01:45:28,522
CULTURAL ISSUES THAT ARE WELL 

3001
01:45:28,522 --> 01:45:31,158
KNOWN, WELL PUBLICIZED, WELL 

3002
01:45:31,158 --> 01:45:32,125
DOCUMENTED, AND UNLESS AND UNTIL

3003
01:45:32,125 --> 01:45:38,131
I HEAR A CLEAR, CONSISTENT, 

3004
01:45:38,131 --> 01:45:42,569
COHERENT, ARTICULABLE STRATEGY 

3005
01:45:42,569 --> 01:45:43,937
THAT ADDRESSES THAT SAME THING. 

3006
01:45:43,937 --> 01:45:45,539
I DO THINK THAT OUR COUNCIL 

3007
01:45:45,539 --> 01:45:46,707
PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE BEEN 

3008
01:45:46,707 --> 01:45:47,341
CLEAR ON AND CONSISTENT ON FOR 

3009
01:45:47,341 --> 01:45:48,742
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND 

3010
01:45:48,742 --> 01:45:50,944
THESE CRITICAL 30 BY 30 

3011
01:45:50,944 --> 01:45:53,246
POSITIONS ARE A NECESSARY 

3012
01:45:53,246 --> 01:45:53,880
COMPONENT. SO STILL WAITING TO 

3013
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:58,652
HEAR FROM THAT. BUT WE'LL 

3014
01:45:58,652 --> 01:45:59,219
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. 

3015
01:45:59,219 --> 01:46:00,120
PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, 

3016
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:05,225
YES. NEED MORE. QUICK QUESTIONS 

3017
01:46:05,225 --> 01:46:08,829
FOR YOU, CHIEF. WOULD INSTALLING

3018
01:46:08,829 --> 01:46:10,397
AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

3019
01:46:10,397 --> 01:46:12,365
SECURITY CAMERAS YESTERDAY. CCTV

3020
01:46:12,365 --> 01:46:13,767
CAMERAS YESTERDAY AT THE SEATTLE

3021
01:46:13,767 --> 01:46:15,268
CENTER. BUT TRUTH BE TOLD THIS 

3022
01:46:15,268 --> 01:46:16,636
IS ACTUALLY A BETTER FORUM FOR 

3023
01:46:16,636 --> 01:46:20,907
THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE 

3024
01:46:20,907 --> 01:46:23,577
HISTORICALLY, MAINTENANCE AND 

3025
01:46:23,577 --> 01:46:26,346
DEPLOYMENT OF OF NEW CAMERA 

3026
01:46:26,346 --> 01:46:28,882
EXPANSIONS, THAT IS SOMETHING 

3027
01:46:28,882 --> 01:46:31,885
THAT COMES OUT OF SPD'S BUDGET.

3028
01:46:31,885 --> 01:46:33,587
AND SO I JUST WANT TO JUST WANT 

3029
01:46:33,587 --> 01:46:37,157
TO ASK YOU, I'M REALLY CURIOUS 

3030
01:46:37,157 --> 01:46:42,329
WHAT INSTALLING CCTV CAMERAS AT 

3031
01:46:42,329 --> 01:46:44,798
SEATTLE CENTER BE HELPFUL TO SPD

3032
01:46:44,798 --> 01:46:47,467
IN DETERRING AND INVESTIGATING 

3033
01:46:47,467 --> 01:46:48,835
CRIMES THAT OCCUR ON THE SEATTLE

3034
01:46:48,835 --> 01:46:50,337
CENTER CAMPUS, YES OR NO? 

3035
01:46:50,337 --> 01:46:52,305
-- YES 

3036
01:46:52,305 --> 01:46:57,778
-- THANK YOU. SO HAD RECENT 

3037
01:46:57,778 --> 01:47:01,681
TRAGEDY AT THE BITE AND 

3038
01:47:01,681 --> 01:47:04,284
INVESTIGATORS ARE HARD AT WORK 

3039
01:47:04,284 --> 01:47:06,219
FOLLOWING UP ON LEADS, CHASING 

3040
01:47:06,219 --> 01:47:09,456
DOWN EVIDENCE. BUT SECOND 

3041
01:47:09,456 --> 01:47:11,425
QUESTION IS, FOLLOWING THE JULY 

3042
01:47:11,425 --> 01:47:15,028
SHOOTING AT THE SEATTLE CENTER, 

3043
01:47:15,028 --> 01:47:17,764
DID SPD HAVE ANY CITY OPERATED 

3044
01:47:17,764 --> 01:47:20,467
CCTV FOOTAGE FROM THE IMMEDIATE 

3045
01:47:20,467 --> 01:47:25,806
AREA, OR DID INVESTIGATORS HAVE 

3046
01:47:25,806 --> 01:47:28,775
TO RELY ON VIDEO VOLUNTARILY 

3047
01:47:28,775 --> 01:47:31,211
PROVIDED BY SEATTLE CENTER 

3048
01:47:31,211 --> 01:47:33,447
TENANTS, BUSINESSES, EVENT 

3049
01:47:33,447 --> 01:47:33,980
ATTENDEES AND OTHER THIRD 

3050
01:47:33,980 --> 01:47:34,915
PARTIES? 

3051
01:47:34,915 --> 01:47:36,750
-- YES, A LOT OF THOSE CAMERAS 

3052
01:47:36,750 --> 01:47:37,918
IN THAT AREA ASSISTED US AT THAT

3053
01:47:37,918 --> 01:47:40,420
TIME. IF YOU LOOK AT IT REALLY 

3054
01:47:40,420 --> 01:47:42,456
NATIONALLY AND STATISTICALLY, 

3055
01:47:42,456 --> 01:47:43,390
WHEN YOU HAVE CAMERAS IN USE, IS

3056
01:47:43,390 --> 01:47:45,258
THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO 

3057
01:47:45,258 --> 01:47:47,027
ASSIST US IN INVESTIGATION AND 

3058
01:47:47,027 --> 01:47:49,596
SOLVE THOSE HEINOUS CRIMES 

3059
01:47:49,596 --> 01:47:52,065
SOONER. 

3060
01:47:52,065 --> 01:47:53,967
-- THANK YOU. VERY HELPFUL 

3061
01:47:53,967 --> 01:47:56,636
CHIEF, THAT BRINGS ME TO THE 

3062
01:47:56,636 --> 01:48:01,141
PROPOSED BUDGET BEFORE US. SEE, 

3063
01:48:01,141 --> 01:48:03,610
A BUDGET IS MORE THAN A 

3064
01:48:03,610 --> 01:48:06,179
SPREADSHEET. HERE'S HERE'S THE

3065
01:48:06,179 --> 01:48:07,848
BUDGET RIGHT HERE. THAT'S THE 

3066
01:48:07,848 --> 01:48:10,617
BUDGET RIGHT THERE. A BUDGET IS 

3067
01:48:10,617 --> 01:48:12,619
MORE THAN A SPREADSHEET, A SET 

3068
01:48:12,619 --> 01:48:14,221
OF BINDERS, DOCUMENTS. IT'S 

3069
01:48:14,221 --> 01:48:19,693
HUNDREDS OF PAGES LONG LINE 

3070
01:48:19,693 --> 01:48:21,862
ITEMS. A BUDGET TELLS THE PUBLIC

3071
01:48:21,862 --> 01:48:25,031
WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED, WHAT WE 

3072
01:48:25,031 --> 01:48:29,135
VALUE AND WHICH SPECIFIC RISKS 

3073
01:48:29,135 --> 01:48:32,072
WE ARE PREPARED TO ACCEPT OR 

3074
01:48:32,072 --> 01:48:34,007
NOT. AND AFTER THE TRAGEDY AT 

3075
01:48:34,007 --> 01:48:37,244
THE BITE, I EXPECTED THIS 

3076
01:48:37,244 --> 01:48:40,180
PROPOSED BUDGET TO INCLUDE 

3077
01:48:40,180 --> 01:48:42,048
FUNDING FOR CCTV CAMERAS AT THE 

3078
01:48:42,048 --> 01:48:46,887
SEATTLE CENTER. AS CURRENTLY 

3079
01:48:46,887 --> 01:48:49,556
PROPOSED, IT DOES NOT. I FIND 

3080
01:48:49,556 --> 01:48:55,028
THAT OMISSION EXTRAORDINARILY 

3081
01:48:55,028 --> 01:48:55,595
DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND AND 

3082
01:48:55,595 --> 01:49:00,233
INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTING. IT'S 

3083
01:49:00,233 --> 01:49:03,069
PAST TIME TO CENTER THE CRIME 

3084
01:49:03,069 --> 01:49:03,703
VICTIMS, INCLUDING ASHLEY WHITE 

3085
01:49:03,703 --> 01:49:09,576
AND HER FAMILY. THREE PEOPLE 

3086
01:49:09,576 --> 01:49:10,377
TRAGICALLY LOST THEIR LIFE AT 

3087
01:49:10,377 --> 01:49:11,978
THE SEATTLE CENTER SHOOTING IN 

3088
01:49:11,978 --> 01:49:13,713
JULY, WITH FIVE ADDITIONAL 

3089
01:49:13,713 --> 01:49:15,181
WOUNDED WOUNDED, INCLUDING A TWO

3090
01:49:15,181 --> 01:49:20,620
YEAR OLD ONE OF THOSE MURDER 

3091
01:49:20,620 --> 01:49:21,221
VICTIMS WAS ASHLEY WHITEHEAD. 

3092
01:49:21,221 --> 01:49:24,524
NOW ASHLEY WAS A 56 YEAR OLD. 

3093
01:49:24,524 --> 01:49:28,228
SHE WAS AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER 

3094
01:49:28,228 --> 01:49:31,264
WHO WENT TO A BELOVED COMMUNITY 

3095
01:49:31,264 --> 01:49:34,367
EVENT AND TRAGICALLY NEVER CAME 

3096
01:49:34,367 --> 01:49:36,436
HOME. SHE WAS WAITING IN LINE 

3097
01:49:36,436 --> 01:49:40,907
FOR COTTON CANDY. WHEN SHE WAS 

3098
01:49:40,907 --> 01:49:49,049
STRUCK DOWN BY GUN VIOLENCE. HER

3099
01:49:49,049 --> 01:49:52,052
COUSIN, MICHELLE WHITEHEAD, HAS 

3100
01:49:52,052 --> 01:49:54,521
PUBLICLY ASKED PLEADED WITH THE 

3101
01:49:54,521 --> 01:49:55,989
CITY TO INSTALL CAMERAS, AMONG 

3102
01:49:55,989 --> 01:50:01,995
OTHER SOLUTIONS. WE OWE IT TO 

3103
01:50:01,995 --> 01:50:03,630
ASHLEY. HER FAMILY AND EVERY 

3104
01:50:03,630 --> 01:50:06,066
PERSON WHO GATHERS AT THE 

3105
01:50:06,066 --> 01:50:08,969
SEATTLE CENTER MORE THAN OUR 

3106
01:50:08,969 --> 01:50:12,739
CONDOLENCES, MORE THAN THOUGHTS 

3107
01:50:12,739 --> 01:50:15,508
AND PRAYERS, WE OWE THEM AN 

3108
01:50:15,508 --> 01:50:18,178
HONEST EXAMINATION OF WHAT 

3109
01:50:18,178 --> 01:50:21,247
FAILED, WHAT POTENTIALLY 

3110
01:50:21,247 --> 01:50:21,915
HINDERED INVESTIGATIONS, AND 

3111
01:50:21,915 --> 01:50:25,652
WHAT COULD HELP. THE NEXT TIME. 

3112
01:50:25,652 --> 01:50:27,787
SOME BLATANT OPERATIONAL 

3113
01:50:27,787 --> 01:50:29,789
CONTRADICTIONS AT PLAY HERE IS 

3114
01:50:29,789 --> 01:50:34,627
THE KEY CONTRADICTION. AFTER A 

3115
01:50:34,627 --> 01:50:36,896
DEADLY SHOOTING AT ONE OF THE 

3116
01:50:36,896 --> 01:50:39,699
CITY'S MOST IMPORTANT CIVIC 

3117
01:50:39,699 --> 01:50:42,335
CAMPUSES, THE SEATTLE POLICE 

3118
01:50:42,335 --> 01:50:45,772
DEPARTMENT HAD TO TO SEEK VIDEO 

3119
01:50:45,772 --> 01:50:47,607
EVIDENCE FOOTAGE FROM TENANTS, 

3120
01:50:47,607 --> 01:50:49,376
BUSINESSES, VISITORS AND PEOPLE 

3121
01:50:49,376 --> 01:50:54,280
HOLDING CELL PHONES. WE'RE 

3122
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:54,848
ASKING OUR INVESTIGATORS TO 

3123
01:50:54,848 --> 01:50:57,017
ESSENTIALLY PASS THE HAT FOR 

3124
01:50:57,017 --> 01:51:01,821
SIMPLE VIDEO EVIDENCE AFTER 

3125
01:51:01,821 --> 01:51:04,357
TRAGEDY STRIKES, BEGGING, 

3126
01:51:04,357 --> 01:51:06,526
BORROWING, PLEADING, PASSING THE

3127
01:51:06,526 --> 01:51:10,196
COLLECTION PLATE FOR SIMPLE, 

3128
01:51:10,196 --> 01:51:13,299
SIMPLE EVIDENCE. APPARENTLY 

3129
01:51:13,299 --> 01:51:17,103
EVERYONE CAN HAVE A CAMERA IN 

3130
01:51:17,103 --> 01:51:17,937
THE CITY EXCEPT THE CITY ITSELF.

3131
01:51:17,937 --> 01:51:19,506
THE CITY GOVERNMENT ITSELF THAT 

3132
01:51:19,506 --> 01:51:22,042
IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR 

3133
01:51:22,042 --> 01:51:24,277
PUBLIC SAFETY. EVERYBODY GETS A 

3134
01:51:24,277 --> 01:51:26,513
CAMERA EXCEPT US. HOW IN THE 

3135
01:51:26,513 --> 01:51:29,983
WORLD DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE 

3136
01:51:29,983 --> 01:51:34,154
-- WHY DON'T YOU. 

3137
01:51:34,154 --> 01:51:34,788
-- TOTAL HEAD SCRATCHER. THAT IS

3138
01:51:34,788 --> 01:51:39,659
NOT A STRATEGY. THAT IS A HUGE 

3139
01:51:39,659 --> 01:51:42,562
AND GAPING VULNERABILITY AND WE 

3140
01:51:42,562 --> 01:51:45,398
HAVE CHOSEN TO PRESERVE AND 

3141
01:51:45,398 --> 01:51:49,402
ENSHRINE IN OUR BUDGET. WE NEED 

3142
01:51:49,402 --> 01:51:54,240
A MORE BALANCED, SENSIBLE 

3143
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:55,308
APPROACH. TRUTH BE TOLD, CAMERAS

3144
01:51:55,308 --> 01:52:00,713
ARE NOT MAGIC. THEY ARE NOT 100%

3145
01:52:00,713 --> 01:52:04,084
RISK FREE. BY THE WAY, MEMBERS 

3146
01:52:04,084 --> 01:52:06,720
OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD RIGHTFULLY 

3147
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:08,855
QUESTION ANY LEADER OR ELECTED 

3148
01:52:08,855 --> 01:52:10,690
OFFICIAL OR POLITICIAN WHO HAS 

3149
01:52:10,690 --> 01:52:13,526
STATED GOALS IS 100% RISK FREE. 

3150
01:52:13,526 --> 01:52:15,829
GUARANTEED TO LOCK IN STATUS 

3151
01:52:15,829 --> 01:52:19,566
QUO. GUARANTEED TO KEEP US IN 

3152
01:52:19,566 --> 01:52:22,068
THE SUNKEN PLACE. GUARANTEED TO 

3153
01:52:22,068 --> 01:52:27,107
KEEP US IN ANALYSIS PARALYSIS 

3154
01:52:27,107 --> 01:52:29,142
AND GUARANTEED. TO PUT US IN A 

3155
01:52:29,142 --> 01:52:32,579
PERPETUAL STATE OF STASIS. TIME 

3156
01:52:32,579 --> 01:52:38,685
TO SNAP OUT OF IT CAMERAS DO NOT

3157
01:52:38,685 --> 01:52:40,854
REPLACE OFFICERS VIOLENCE 

3158
01:52:40,854 --> 01:52:44,390
PREVENTION, GOOD LIGHTING, NITTY

3159
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:46,359
GRITTY SEPTET DESIGN REVIEWS, 

3160
01:52:46,359 --> 01:52:49,996
METAL DETECTORS AND WEAPONS 

3161
01:52:49,996 --> 01:52:52,232
SCREENING EQUIPMENT, NON-POLICE 

3162
01:52:52,232 --> 01:52:55,235
RESPONSES, EVENT SECURITY 

3163
01:52:55,235 --> 01:52:59,105
TRAINING, PROSECUTION OR 

3164
01:52:59,105 --> 01:52:59,739
RESPONSIBLE MANAGEMENT, PRIVACY 

3165
01:52:59,739 --> 01:53:02,008
AND CIVIL LIBERTIES CONCERNS 

3166
01:53:02,008 --> 01:53:04,544
DESERVE REAL SAFEGUARDS, 

3167
01:53:04,544 --> 01:53:06,079
INCLUDING LIMITED ACCESS, 

3168
01:53:06,079 --> 01:53:09,783
RETENTION RULES, AUDITING AND 

3169
01:53:09,783 --> 01:53:12,452
ACCOUNTABILITY. BUT SIMPLY 

3170
01:53:12,452 --> 01:53:17,157
REFUSING TO INSTALL CAMERAS 

3171
01:53:17,157 --> 01:53:19,792
CARRIES SIGNIFICANT RISK TO THE 

3172
01:53:19,792 --> 01:53:22,595
SECURITY BENEFITS AT A MAJOR 

3173
01:53:22,595 --> 01:53:23,196
EVENT CAMPUS GREATLY OUTWEIGH 

3174
01:53:23,196 --> 01:53:26,966
RISKS THAT CAN AND SHOULD BE 

3175
01:53:26,966 --> 01:53:29,669
MANAGED. CAMERAS CAN DETER SOME 

3176
01:53:29,669 --> 01:53:33,273
MISCONDUCT, IMPROVE SITUATIONAL 

3177
01:53:33,273 --> 01:53:35,975
AWARENESS, PRESERVE EVIDENCE, 

3178
01:53:35,975 --> 01:53:38,778
ACCELERATE INVESTIGATIONS AND 

3179
01:53:38,778 --> 01:53:42,549
HELP IDENTIFY PEOPLE INVOLVED 

3180
01:53:42,549 --> 01:53:44,450
BEFORE MORE HARM OCCURS. WE 

3181
01:53:44,450 --> 01:53:45,118
CAN'T SAY WE'RE ADVANCING A 

3182
01:53:45,118 --> 01:53:47,153
RESPONSIBLE BUDGET AND CARRYING 

3183
01:53:47,153 --> 01:53:48,755
OUT OUR CHARTER RESPONSIBILITY 

3184
01:53:48,755 --> 01:53:52,559
TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE WITHOUT 

3185
01:53:52,559 --> 01:53:55,161
FUNDING FOR CRITICAL CCTV 

3186
01:53:55,161 --> 01:53:57,163
CAMERAS AT THE SEATTLE CENTER. 

3187
01:53:57,163 --> 01:53:59,032
WELL, AT LEAST WE CAN'T SAY 

3188
01:53:59,032 --> 01:54:02,535
THAT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE WHEN 

3189
01:54:02,535 --> 01:54:04,070
WE DO THAT, THE PUBLIC 

3190
01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:05,538
UNDERSTANDABLY FEELS LIKE 

3191
01:54:05,538 --> 01:54:07,574
THEY'VE BEEN HOODWINKED. THEY 

3192
01:54:07,574 --> 01:54:11,144
FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN 

3193
01:54:11,144 --> 01:54:11,644
BAMBOOZLED, SNOOKERED, 

3194
01:54:11,644 --> 01:54:13,913
HORNSWOGGLED, DUPED, SWINDLED, 

3195
01:54:13,913 --> 01:54:16,049
PLAYED, HUSTLED, TRICKED, 

3196
01:54:16,049 --> 01:54:20,453
FOOLED, MISINFORMED, LEAD 

3197
01:54:20,453 --> 01:54:24,824
PUNKED. SOLD A BILL OF GOODS. SO

3198
01:54:24,824 --> 01:54:29,529
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF 

3199
01:54:29,529 --> 01:54:30,129
THEORETICAL CONSIDERATIONS AT 

3200
01:54:30,129 --> 01:54:33,333
PLAY. BUT MORE IMPORTANT, 

3201
01:54:33,333 --> 01:54:35,568
PRACTICAL REALITIES SHOULD 

3202
01:54:35,568 --> 01:54:38,872
SUPERSEDE AND GOVERN HERE. THIS 

3203
01:54:38,872 --> 01:54:40,740
IS SOMETIMES PRESENTED AS THOUGH

3204
01:54:40,740 --> 01:54:42,108
CCTV AT THE SEATTLE CENTER, 

3205
01:54:42,108 --> 01:54:43,977
WHERE A RADICAL IDEA. BUT A 

3206
01:54:43,977 --> 01:54:47,480
RECENT CHAMBER POLL FOUND THAT 

3207
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,082
75% OF SURVEYED SEATTLE VOTERS 

3208
01:54:49,082 --> 01:54:50,884
SUPPORTED CAMERAS AT THE SEATTLE

3209
01:54:50,884 --> 01:54:53,286
CENTER AND OTHER MAJOR EVENT 

3210
01:54:53,286 --> 01:54:56,222
VENUES. IRONICALLY, THIS 

3211
01:54:56,222 --> 01:54:56,756
SUPPOSEDLY CONTROVERSIAL 

3212
01:54:56,756 --> 01:55:00,393
TECHNOLOGY HAS UNUSUALLY 

3213
01:55:00,393 --> 01:55:02,662
LOPSIDED PUBLIC SUPPORT. THIS IS

3214
01:55:02,662 --> 01:55:07,000
NOT A FRINGE OR OR RADICAL 

3215
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:10,637
POSITION IN SEATTLE. EVEN IN THE

3216
01:55:10,637 --> 01:55:12,538
TRUMP 2.0 ERA, A MAJOR EVENT, 

3217
01:55:12,538 --> 01:55:14,073
ORGANIZERS AND VENUE OPERATORS, 

3218
01:55:14,073 --> 01:55:16,809
INCLUDING CLIMATE PLEDGE ARENA, 

3219
01:55:16,809 --> 01:55:18,411
THE SEATTLE CENTER, SEAFAIR AND 

3220
01:55:18,411 --> 01:55:21,047
OTHERS HAVE ALSO URGED THE CITY 

3221
01:55:21,047 --> 01:55:22,181
TO RESTORE CAMERAS AND SOTO AND 

3222
01:55:22,181 --> 01:55:25,418
EXPAND COVERAGE TO THE CENTER. 

3223
01:55:25,418 --> 01:55:26,953
THE PEOPLE WHO HOST BIG CROWDS 

3224
01:55:26,953 --> 01:55:29,589
ARE ASKING. THE PUBLIC IS 

3225
01:55:29,589 --> 01:55:33,226
ASKING. A VICTIM'S FAMILY IS 

3226
01:55:33,226 --> 01:55:35,962
ASKING. SPD EXPERTS HAVE 

3227
01:55:35,962 --> 01:55:37,096
EXPLAINED THE OPERATIONAL AND 

3228
01:55:37,096 --> 01:55:40,233
INVESTIGATIVE VALUE OF CAMERAS. 

3229
01:55:40,233 --> 01:55:43,303
YET CONFUSINGLY, THE PROPOSED 

3230
01:55:43,303 --> 01:55:45,338
BUDGET ANSWERS WITH SILENCE OR 

3231
01:55:45,338 --> 01:55:50,510
AT A BARE MINIMUM, INDIFFERENCE 

3232
01:55:50,510 --> 01:55:52,679
WE NEED TO STOP THINKING THAT 

3233
01:55:52,679 --> 01:55:54,280
WE'RE SMARTER THAN THE PEOPLE 

3234
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:57,817
HOSTING BIG CROWDS. WE NEED TO 

3235
01:55:57,817 --> 01:56:00,219
STOP THINKING WE'RE SMARTER THAN

3236
01:56:00,219 --> 01:56:02,522
THE PUBLIC, SMARTER THAN VICTIMS

3237
01:56:02,522 --> 01:56:05,825
AND IMPACTED FAMILIES, SMARTER 

3238
01:56:05,825 --> 01:56:07,660
THAN EXPERTS, SMARTER THAN THE 

3239
01:56:07,660 --> 01:56:11,431
PLAIN AND CLEAR COMMON SENSE. I 

3240
01:56:11,431 --> 01:56:13,366
UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT 

3241
01:56:13,366 --> 01:56:13,933
SURVEILLANCE TOOLS COULD BE 

3242
01:56:13,933 --> 01:56:15,168
MISUSED, INCLUDING BY THE 

3243
01:56:15,168 --> 01:56:16,869
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. BUT THE FEDS

3244
01:56:16,869 --> 01:56:19,339
HAVE VASTLY SUPERIOR RESOURCES 

3245
01:56:19,339 --> 01:56:20,573
AND THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE AND 

3246
01:56:20,573 --> 01:56:25,311
DEPLOY ITS OWN TOOLS, CHOOSING 

3247
01:56:25,311 --> 01:56:25,912
TO VOLUNTARILY BLIND SEATTLE 

3248
01:56:25,912 --> 01:56:30,583
DOES NOT BLIND WASHINGTON, D.C.,

3249
01:56:30,583 --> 01:56:31,150
THE RESPONSIBLE SOLUTION IS 

3250
01:56:31,150 --> 01:56:34,020
STRONG LOCAL SAFEGUARDS, NOT 

3251
01:56:34,020 --> 01:56:35,621
COMPLETELY SHUTTING DOWN AND 

3252
01:56:35,621 --> 01:56:37,824
DENYING OUR OWN INVESTIGATORS 

3253
01:56:37,824 --> 01:56:40,993
AND THE PUBLIC THE BASIC 

3254
01:56:40,993 --> 01:56:42,695
INFRASTRUCTURE EXPENDED AT A 

3255
01:56:42,695 --> 01:56:45,298
MAJOR CIVIC CULTURAL HUB LIKE 

3256
01:56:45,298 --> 01:56:47,667
THE CENTER, THE EXECUTIVE CLAIMS

3257
01:56:47,667 --> 01:56:49,736
THE PROPOSED BUDGET INVESTS IN 

3258
01:56:49,736 --> 01:56:51,971
PUBLIC SAFETY. YET THE PROPOSED 

3259
01:56:51,971 --> 01:56:55,375
BUDGET DOES NOT FUND A BASIC 

3260
01:56:55,375 --> 01:56:56,009
INVESTIGATIVE CAPABILITY. AT ONE

3261
01:56:56,009 --> 01:56:58,277
OF THE CITY'S LARGEST GATHERING

3262
01:56:58,277 --> 01:57:02,982
SPACES AGAIN, CAMERAS ARE NOT 

3263
01:57:02,982 --> 01:57:06,219
RISK FREE. NEITHER IS REFUSING 

3264
01:57:06,219 --> 01:57:08,254
TO HAVE THEM. DOING NOTHING ON 

3265
01:57:08,254 --> 01:57:10,957
CAMERAS IS ITSELF A PUBLIC 

3266
01:57:10,957 --> 01:57:12,658
SAFETY DECISION. SO I HAVE A 

3267
01:57:12,658 --> 01:57:15,228
FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTION 

3268
01:57:15,228 --> 01:57:18,431
FOR THE EXECUTIVE. AFTER JULY, 

3269
01:57:18,431 --> 01:57:20,299
WHAT ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE ARE WE 

3270
01:57:20,299 --> 01:57:25,938
WAITING FOR I'M OBVIOUSLY AN 

3271
01:57:25,938 --> 01:57:26,472
UNAPOLOGETIC SUPPORTER OF 

3272
01:57:26,472 --> 01:57:28,007
RESPONSIBLY GOVERNED CCTV AT THE

3273
01:57:28,007 --> 01:57:29,876
SEATTLE CENTER PRO CAMERA, IF 

3274
01:57:29,876 --> 01:57:33,046
YOU WILL, ESPECIALLY IN BIG 

3275
01:57:33,046 --> 01:57:35,381
EVENT SPACES. I'M ALSO PRO 

3276
01:57:35,381 --> 01:57:38,317
PRIVACY SAFEGUARDS, PRO 

3277
01:57:38,317 --> 01:57:41,754
ACCOUNTABILITY, PRO RESPONSIBLE 

3278
01:57:41,754 --> 01:57:42,288
IMPLEMENTATION, PRO REAL 

3279
01:57:42,288 --> 01:57:44,223
SOLUTIONS, AND I'LL ADD THAT 

3280
01:57:44,223 --> 01:57:50,430
I'M ANTI HYPOCRISY ANTI-PURITAN

3281
01:57:50,430 --> 01:57:53,332
PROGRESSIVE POLITICS, ANTI 

3282
01:57:53,332 --> 01:57:55,034
TOMFOOLERY AND ANTI STATUS QUO 

3283
01:57:55,034 --> 01:57:57,937
THIS IS NOT ABOUT FEAR. IT IS 

3284
01:57:57,937 --> 01:57:59,472
NOT ABOUT PRETENDING. ONE PROVEN

3285
01:57:59,472 --> 01:58:01,207
TOOL CAN SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM. IT

3286
01:58:01,207 --> 01:58:02,542
IS ABOUT REFUSING TO LEAVE A 

3287
01:58:02,542 --> 01:58:05,445
KNOWN GAP IN PLACE WHERE 

3288
01:58:05,445 --> 01:58:07,580
RESIDENTS, WORKERS, FAMILIES AND

3289
01:58:07,580 --> 01:58:11,584
VISITORS GATHER BY THE TENS OF 

3290
01:58:11,584 --> 01:58:13,386
THOUSANDS. THE COUNCIL AND THE 

3291
01:58:13,386 --> 01:58:14,787
EXECUTIVE SHARE THE SAME DUTY. 

3292
01:58:14,787 --> 01:58:18,057
KEEP THE SEATTLE CENTER SAFE, 

3293
01:58:18,057 --> 01:58:19,959
OPEN AND WELCOMING. WE NEED TO 

3294
01:58:19,959 --> 01:58:23,996
START TAKING PUBLIC SAFETY 

3295
01:58:23,996 --> 01:58:26,065
SERIOUSLY IN SEATTLE. THE GOOD 

3296
01:58:26,065 --> 01:58:27,834
NEWS, GOOD NEWS IT'S NOT ALL 

3297
01:58:27,834 --> 01:58:29,669
FIRE AND BRIMSTONE. THE GOOD 

3298
01:58:29,669 --> 01:58:31,237
NEWS IS THAT THERE'S STILL TIME

3299
01:58:31,237 --> 01:58:33,439
TO CORRECT THIS OMISSION. FUND 

3300
01:58:33,439 --> 01:58:35,842
THE CAMERAS, ADOPT STRONG 

3301
01:58:35,842 --> 01:58:38,377
SAFEGUARDS, AND MAKE THE 

3302
01:58:38,377 --> 01:58:43,082
RESPONSIBLE CHOICE TOGETHER. 

3303
01:58:43,082 --> 01:58:45,051
I'M NOT ANGRY. I AM, HOWEVER, 

3304
01:58:45,051 --> 01:58:48,754
TOTALLY CONFUSED AND UTTERLY 

3305
01:58:48,754 --> 01:58:50,990
DISAPPOINTED. I'LL BE REVIEWING

3306
01:58:50,990 --> 01:58:54,727
THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECTS OF THE

3307
01:58:54,727 --> 01:58:57,830
PROPOSED BUDGET. WITH A SENSE OF

3308
01:58:57,830 --> 01:59:01,701
INCREDULOUS SKEPTICISM, I THINK 

3309
01:59:01,701 --> 01:59:05,771
WE ALL SHOULD. THANK YOU AGAIN, 

3310
01:59:05,771 --> 01:59:06,405
CHIEF. APPRECIATE THE OVERVIEW. 

3311
01:59:06,405 --> 01:59:08,140
MORE WORK FOR US TO DO TOGETHER.

3312
01:59:08,140 --> 01:59:08,541
THANK YOU CHAIR. 

3313
01:59:08,541 --> 01:59:09,876
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA

3314
01:59:09,876 --> 01:59:13,613
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. AS

3315
01:59:13,613 --> 01:59:14,247
A REMINDER, VULGAR LANGUAGE IS 

3316
01:59:14,247 --> 01:59:16,082
NOT ALLOWED AT OUR MEETINGS 

3317
01:59:16,082 --> 01:59:17,250
COMMITTEE TABLE. DO YOU HAVE 

3318
01:59:17,250 --> 01:59:19,452
ANYTHING TO SHARE AT THIS TIME? 

3319
01:59:19,452 --> 01:59:20,653
SORRY, SORRY. NO. ALL RIGHT. 

3320
01:59:20,653 --> 01:59:24,790
WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL 

3321
01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:25,324
PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH. 

3322
01:59:25,324 --> 01:59:27,360
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND I WILL 

3323
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:28,594
I WILL BE QUICK. THANK YOU, 

3324
01:59:28,594 --> 01:59:30,596
CHIEF SALES FOR BEING HERE. 

3325
01:59:30,596 --> 01:59:32,665
APPRECIATE YOU. DAN EDER, ALI 

3326
01:59:32,665 --> 01:59:34,200
AND LISH, YOU ALL WILL BE HERE 

3327
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,269
ALL DAY, SO I'LL. IT'S A 

3328
01:59:36,269 --> 01:59:38,271
ROTATION RIGHT HERE. SO REAL 

3329
01:59:38,271 --> 01:59:42,808
QUICK I REALLY APPRECIATE 

3330
01:59:42,808 --> 01:59:43,476
APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. I 

3331
01:59:43,476 --> 01:59:44,010
KNOW I APPRECIATE ALL THE 

3332
01:59:44,010 --> 01:59:46,012
COMMENTS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE

3333
01:59:46,012 --> 01:59:49,282
MADE AS WELL. AND BECAUSE WE ALL

3334
01:59:49,282 --> 01:59:51,150
HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, ONE

3335
01:59:51,150 --> 01:59:52,485
OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD REALLY 

3336
01:59:52,485 --> 01:59:53,653
HELP ME HELP FOR ME AND WE CAN 

3337
01:59:53,653 --> 01:59:56,389
GO OFFLINE ON THIS, BUT I'LL 

3338
01:59:56,389 --> 01:59:59,058
JUST STATE IT IS HAVING ACTUAL 

3339
01:59:59,058 --> 02:00:01,127
DATA AND INFORMATION REGARDING 

3340
02:00:01,127 --> 02:00:02,995
IF WE ARE INCREASING BUDGETS OR 

3341
02:00:02,995 --> 02:00:05,097
DECREASING WHATEVER IT IS, HOW 

3342
02:00:05,097 --> 02:00:08,067
-- HOW DOES THAT IMPACT RESPONSE

3343
02:00:08,067 --> 02:00:09,068
TIMES? OFFICERS KEEPING DRUGS 

3344
02:00:09,068 --> 02:00:10,870
OFF THE STREETS. GUN. GUN. 

3345
02:00:10,870 --> 02:00:13,940
RETRIEVALS. CRIME SOLVES THE HOT

3346
02:00:13,940 --> 02:00:15,107
SPOTS IN SEATTLE. ARE WE GOING 

3347
02:00:15,107 --> 02:00:17,443
TO HAVE MORE OR LESS UNDERCOVER 

3348
02:00:17,443 --> 02:00:19,579
GROCERY RETAIL THEFT OPERATIONS?

3349
02:00:19,579 --> 02:00:20,479
DOES THIS INCREASE OUR BIKE? 

3350
02:00:20,479 --> 02:00:22,782
COPS. BEATS ON THE STREETS. 

3351
02:00:22,782 --> 02:00:25,685
OFFICER. OUTREACH. WHATEVER. ALL

3352
02:00:25,685 --> 02:00:27,486
THOSE PIECES THAT I KNOW THAT WE

3353
02:00:27,486 --> 02:00:29,889
JUDGE HOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT 

3354
02:00:29,889 --> 02:00:32,959
IS INTERACTING WITH OUR 

3355
02:00:32,959 --> 02:00:33,593
COMMUNITY. HOW DOES THIS IMPACT 

3356
02:00:33,593 --> 02:00:34,460
THAT? AND THAT WOULD BE SUPER 

3357
02:00:34,460 --> 02:00:38,064
HELPFUL. SO HEY JOY, WE ONLY 

3358
02:00:38,064 --> 02:00:39,799
HAVE THIS MANY OFFICERS ON 

3359
02:00:39,799 --> 02:00:41,534
SECOND WATCH AT THE EAST 

3360
02:00:41,534 --> 02:00:43,636
PRECINCT. THIS WOULD INCREASE OR

3361
02:00:43,636 --> 02:00:44,237
DECREASE THAT OPPORTUNITY OR 

3362
02:00:44,237 --> 02:00:45,471
THIS WOULD INCREASE. YOU KNOW, 1

3363
02:00:45,471 --> 02:00:47,506
OR 2 OFFICERS THAT WE COULD BE 

3364
02:00:47,506 --> 02:00:49,008
ABLE TO MOVE FROM WEST PRECINCT 

3365
02:00:49,008 --> 02:00:50,676
TO EAST PRECINCT OR WHATEVER IT 

3366
02:00:50,676 --> 02:00:52,945
IS THAT WOULD HELP ME GET AN 

3367
02:00:52,945 --> 02:00:55,481
IDEA ABOUT HOW THE BUDGET 

3368
02:00:55,481 --> 02:00:57,450
PROPOSAL THAT YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN

3369
02:00:57,450 --> 02:00:59,919
US TODAY WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST 

3370
02:00:59,919 --> 02:01:01,687
TO PUT AND LIKE COUNCILMEMBER 

3371
02:01:01,687 --> 02:01:04,256
LIN SAID, SOME OF THE OUTCOMES 

3372
02:01:04,256 --> 02:01:05,157
AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE 

3373
02:01:05,157 --> 02:01:07,693
OUTCOMES THAT I'M LOOKING 

3374
02:01:07,693 --> 02:01:10,096
LOOKING FOR. BECAUSE SINCE NINE 

3375
02:01:10,096 --> 02:01:12,265
EIGHT, EXCUSE ME, SINCE 910, WE 

3376
02:01:12,265 --> 02:01:15,234
HAD A SHOOTING AT WESTLAKE PARK,

3377
02:01:15,234 --> 02:01:16,469
ONE DEAD, NINE SIX BELLTOWN, ONE

3378
02:01:16,469 --> 02:01:19,238
DEAD, NINE FOUR ON THE BLOCK OF 

3379
02:01:19,238 --> 02:01:20,673
AURORA, ONE INJURED, NINE ONE IN

3380
02:01:20,673 --> 02:01:23,542
DELRIDGE, ONE INJURED, 819. WE 

3381
02:01:23,542 --> 02:01:25,711
HAD ONE INJURED, 819 THIS IS 

3382
02:01:25,711 --> 02:01:27,246
JUST FROM SHOTS ONE DEAD IN 

3383
02:01:27,246 --> 02:01:30,349
FIRST HILL. WE ALSO HAD IN 

3384
02:01:30,349 --> 02:01:32,184
PIONEER SQUARE 817, ONE INJURED,

3385
02:01:32,184 --> 02:01:33,853
812 IN SOUTH SEATTLE, ONE 

3386
02:01:33,853 --> 02:01:35,321
INJURED 810. HIGH POINT, ONE 

3387
02:01:35,321 --> 02:01:38,257
DEAD. THOSE ARE ACTUAL DATA 

3388
02:01:38,257 --> 02:01:40,793
POINTS THAT I CAN LOOK AT TO SEE

3389
02:01:40,793 --> 02:01:43,095
OKAY, HOW HOW ARE WE DOING IN 

3390
02:01:43,095 --> 02:01:45,398
OUR CITY? SO. OH, AND THAT'S 

3391
02:01:45,398 --> 02:01:46,666
JUST WHAT SHOTS FIRED. BECAUSE I

3392
02:01:46,666 --> 02:01:48,200
KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE 

3393
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:49,001
LISTENING FROM OUR CARE TEAM TO 

3394
02:01:49,001 --> 02:01:50,936
TALK ABOUT THE GUN VIOLENCE 

3395
02:01:50,936 --> 02:01:52,571
PREVENTION PLAN. SO EXCITED TO 

3396
02:01:52,571 --> 02:01:55,841
TALK ABOUT TALK ABOUT THAT. AND 

3397
02:01:55,841 --> 02:01:57,143
THEN ALSO TO, YOU KNOW, US GOING

3398
02:01:57,143 --> 02:01:58,344
WELL. JOY THE TOP FIVE ARRESTS 

3399
02:01:58,344 --> 02:02:01,147
IN OUR CITY, ARE ASSAULTS, 

3400
02:02:01,147 --> 02:02:02,014
THEFT, VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC 

3401
02:02:02,014 --> 02:02:03,115
CRIMES. WE HAVE WARRANTS AND 

3402
02:02:03,115 --> 02:02:04,583
NARCOTICS. THOSE ARE THE TOP 

3403
02:02:04,583 --> 02:02:06,285
FIVE. HOW WILL THAT IMPACT EAST 

3404
02:02:06,285 --> 02:02:07,787
PRECINCT? BECAUSE OURS ARE 

3405
02:02:07,787 --> 02:02:10,589
ASSAULTS, NARCOTICS, THEFT 

3406
02:02:10,589 --> 02:02:12,258
WARRANTS, AND VEHICLE AND 

3407
02:02:12,258 --> 02:02:14,994
TRAFFIC CRIMES IS NUMBER FIVE. 

3408
02:02:14,994 --> 02:02:16,796
AND HOW WILL THE BUDGET AND 

3409
02:02:16,796 --> 02:02:19,031
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IMPACT THOSE 

3410
02:02:19,031 --> 02:02:20,866
PIECES WILL IMPACT ARRESTS? WILL

3411
02:02:20,866 --> 02:02:23,436
IT IMPACT OFFICERS ON BIKES? AND

3412
02:02:23,436 --> 02:02:26,572
HOW MANY OF THOSE ASSAULTS WERE,

3413
02:02:26,572 --> 02:02:27,973
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW ARE 

3414
02:02:27,973 --> 02:02:30,776
THEY RESPONDED TO? LIKE, THAT'S,

3415
02:02:30,776 --> 02:02:31,344
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE 

3416
02:02:31,344 --> 02:02:34,447
INFORMATION FOR ME. THAT'S SUPER

3417
02:02:34,447 --> 02:02:36,716
HELPFUL. SO WHEN I AM MAKING A 

3418
02:02:36,716 --> 02:02:38,217
VOTE OR I AM TELLING THE 

3419
02:02:38,217 --> 02:02:39,385
CITIZENS, OUR CONSTITUENTS, THIS

3420
02:02:39,385 --> 02:02:41,587
IS WHY I VOTED ON THIS. THIS IS 

3421
02:02:41,587 --> 02:02:42,655
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE 

3422
02:02:42,655 --> 02:02:45,057
GOING TO GET FROM THAT. SO 

3423
02:02:45,057 --> 02:02:46,559
THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL FOR, FOR, 

3424
02:02:46,559 --> 02:02:47,760
FOR ME PERSONALLY. AND THEN REAL

3425
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,296
QUICK, I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED

3426
02:02:50,296 --> 02:02:52,431
ABOUT BALTIMORE AND BOSTON IN 

3427
02:02:52,431 --> 02:02:53,833
COMPARISON. I HAD THIS 

3428
02:02:53,833 --> 02:02:54,900
INFORMATION FROM A MINUTE AGO. 

3429
02:02:54,900 --> 02:02:57,136
SO I KNOW WE'RE ABOUT 800 000 

3430
02:02:57,136 --> 02:03:00,306
POPULATION. WE HAVE 1.4 OFFICERS

3431
02:03:00,306 --> 02:03:03,142
TO 1000 PEOPLE. BALTIMORE HAS 

3432
02:03:03,142 --> 02:03:07,313
3.6 TO 1000 PEOPLE. BOSTON HAS 

3433
02:03:07,313 --> 02:03:08,314
3.15 TO 1000 PEOPLE. SO THOSE 

3434
02:03:08,314 --> 02:03:10,449
ARE VERY I KNOW WE LIKE TO MAKE 

3435
02:03:10,449 --> 02:03:12,251
COMPARISONS WITH OTHER CITIES. I

3436
02:03:12,251 --> 02:03:14,720
THINK SEATTLE IS VERY UNIQUE. WE

3437
02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:16,589
CHERRY PICK STUFF, BUT SEATTLE 

3438
02:03:16,589 --> 02:03:17,790
IS VERY UNIQUE TO THINGS. AND 

3439
02:03:17,790 --> 02:03:20,559
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT

3440
02:03:20,559 --> 02:03:22,628
THE SUCCESS OF BALTIMORE, IS IT 

3441
02:03:22,628 --> 02:03:24,764
POLICE? IS IT THEIR CRIME 

3442
02:03:24,764 --> 02:03:26,766
DETERRENCE? IS IT WHAT IS IT? 

3443
02:03:26,766 --> 02:03:28,434
RIGHT. BUT IT'S HARD TO MAKE 

3444
02:03:28,434 --> 02:03:31,003
THAT COMPARISON WHEN YOU'RE 

3445
02:03:31,003 --> 02:03:32,638
LOOKING AT THE STATS, WHEN YOU 

3446
02:03:32,638 --> 02:03:35,274
HAVE THINGS LIKE THE POLICE, YOU

3447
02:03:35,274 --> 02:03:37,643
HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE, THEY HAVE 

3448
02:03:37,643 --> 02:03:39,044
DOUBLE MORE THE POLICE THAN WE 

3449
02:03:39,044 --> 02:03:41,514
DO HERE IN THE IN THE CITY OF 

3450
02:03:41,514 --> 02:03:43,416
SEATTLE. SO JUST WONDERING WHERE

3451
02:03:43,416 --> 02:03:44,450
THAT PLAYS INTO PART. AND LAST 

3452
02:03:44,450 --> 02:03:46,552
BUT NOT LEAST, I KNOW WE CAN 

3453
02:03:46,552 --> 02:03:49,155
TALK ABOUT CAMERAS ALL DAY. AND 

3454
02:03:49,155 --> 02:03:51,791
YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY WORK OR 

3455
02:03:51,791 --> 02:03:53,759
NOT. BUT HERE ARE THE FACTS. 

3456
02:03:53,759 --> 02:03:58,164
OKAY COUNCIL ADDED 65 CAMERAS IN

3457
02:03:58,164 --> 02:04:02,501
2025 AND WE ALLOWED SP-D TO HAVE

3458
02:04:02,501 --> 02:04:05,538
ACCESS TO 145 TRAFFIC CAMERAS IN

3459
02:04:05,538 --> 02:04:08,174
IN THE CITY. OUR TCC SUPPORTED 

3460
02:04:08,174 --> 02:04:09,775
17 HOMICIDES IN 2025. AND THIS 

3461
02:04:09,775 --> 02:04:12,344
IS ALL ONLINE, LEADING TO TEN 

3462
02:04:12,344 --> 02:04:14,980
ARRESTS, TEN ARRESTS, 17 

3463
02:04:14,980 --> 02:04:17,483
HOMICIDES. AND I CAN TELL YOU, I

3464
02:04:17,483 --> 02:04:20,052
HAVE TALKED ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE 

3465
02:04:20,052 --> 02:04:22,621
IN MY PERSONAL THING THIS MONTH.

3466
02:04:22,621 --> 02:04:24,690
FINALLY, TWO AND A HALF YEARS 

3467
02:04:24,690 --> 02:04:25,391
LATER, I HAD A BROTHER IN LAW, 

3468
02:04:25,391 --> 02:04:26,692
UNFORTUNATELY, WHO DIED OF OF 

3469
02:04:26,692 --> 02:04:28,194
GUN VIOLENCE WAS SHOT IN THE 

3470
02:04:28,194 --> 02:04:31,363
HEAD. AND THE TRIAL WILL GO THIS

3471
02:04:31,363 --> 02:04:32,998
MONTH TO KING COUNTY. IT WAS 

3472
02:04:32,998 --> 02:04:34,500
CAUGHT ON CAMERA AND THAT IS THE

3473
02:04:34,500 --> 02:04:37,636
ONLY WAY THAT WE THAT THEY WERE 

3474
02:04:37,636 --> 02:04:39,038
ABLE TO ARREST THE ASSAILANT. 

3475
02:04:39,038 --> 02:04:40,172
I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR I'M 

3476
02:04:40,172 --> 02:04:43,108
TELLING YOU, THIS IS THE ACTUAL 

3477
02:04:43,108 --> 02:04:44,677
THE ACTUAL FACTS. I HAD A COUSIN

3478
02:04:44,677 --> 02:04:49,381
WHO WAS SHOT THIS YEAR AND DIED.

3479
02:04:49,381 --> 02:04:50,549
HIS DAD WAS SHOT AS WELL. BEFORE

3480
02:04:50,549 --> 02:04:52,151
THAT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, 

3481
02:04:52,151 --> 02:04:54,153
AND IS PARALYZED FROM THE WAIST 

3482
02:04:54,153 --> 02:04:55,921
DOWN. HE'S NOW WORKING IN 

3483
02:04:55,921 --> 02:04:57,389
SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. HIS SON 

3484
02:04:57,389 --> 02:04:59,425
WAS MURDERED THIS YEAR ON 

3485
02:04:59,425 --> 02:05:00,526
RAINIER. THERE WAS NO CAMERA. HE

3486
02:05:00,526 --> 02:05:03,796
WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD AND DIED. 

3487
02:05:03,796 --> 02:05:04,930
UNFORTUNATELY. AND THAT'S JUST 

3488
02:05:04,930 --> 02:05:06,665
REALLY SAD THAT THAT TYPE OF GUN

3489
02:05:06,665 --> 02:05:09,268
VIOLENCE, NO ONE'S ADVOCATING, 

3490
02:05:09,268 --> 02:05:10,903
I BELIEVE, FOR FOR CAMERAS TO 

3491
02:05:10,903 --> 02:05:14,273
SAY, WILL THEY PREVENT CRIME? I 

3492
02:05:14,273 --> 02:05:16,509
AM TALKING ABOUT CAN THEY HELP 

3493
02:05:16,509 --> 02:05:18,410
GO AND SOLVE MURDERS, 

3494
02:05:18,410 --> 02:05:20,212
INVESTIGATIONS TO LEAD TO 

3495
02:05:20,212 --> 02:05:22,615
CLOSURES FOR THE FAMILY. I 

3496
02:05:22,615 --> 02:05:24,783
BELIEVE THE CAMERA TALKING POINT

3497
02:05:24,783 --> 02:05:26,719
HAS BEEN VERY POLITICAL, AND WE 

3498
02:05:26,719 --> 02:05:27,753
CAN'T EVEN GET PAST THE NOISE 

3499
02:05:27,753 --> 02:05:33,392
TO LOOK AT THE FACTS. CHICAGO 

3500
02:05:33,392 --> 02:05:37,763
PROGRESSIVE MAYOR, 4400 CAMERAS.

3501
02:05:37,763 --> 02:05:39,798
NEW YORK SOCIALIST MAYOR, 6600 

3502
02:05:39,798 --> 02:05:43,602
CAMERAS. BALTIMORE 861 CCTV 

3503
02:05:43,602 --> 02:05:45,437
CAMERAS. IF WE DON'T WANT 

3504
02:05:45,437 --> 02:05:47,373
CAMERAS, FINE. TAKE OUT THE 

3505
02:05:47,373 --> 02:05:49,842
POLICE CAMERAS, TAKE OUT TRAFFIC

3506
02:05:49,842 --> 02:05:51,277
CAMERAS, TAKE OUT CAMERAS IN OUR

3507
02:05:51,277 --> 02:05:52,845
CHAMBER. TAKE THEM ALL OUT. TAKE

3508
02:05:52,845 --> 02:05:54,880
OUT PARKS. DEPARTMENT HAS 

3509
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:57,950
CAMERAS FOR A LOT OF THEIR THEIR

3510
02:05:57,950 --> 02:05:59,685
THEIR PARKS. TAKE THEM OUT. 

3511
02:05:59,685 --> 02:06:02,521
OKAY, BUT WE CAN'T CHERRY PICK.

3512
02:06:02,521 --> 02:06:04,423
I'M TELLING YOU, WE CAN'T 

3513
02:06:04,423 --> 02:06:06,592
CHERRY PICK BASED ON POLITICAL 

3514
02:06:06,592 --> 02:06:08,160
IDEOLOGY. AND I'M TIRED OF IT 

3515
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:10,162
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING 

3516
02:06:10,162 --> 02:06:12,097
REALLY AFFECTED. SO WHILE I 

3517
02:06:12,097 --> 02:06:14,667
AGREE WITH PEOPLE, I HAD A A 

3518
02:06:14,667 --> 02:06:18,537
BUDGET ALLOCATION THAT REMOVED 

3519
02:06:18,537 --> 02:06:20,906
CAMERA MONEY AND PUT IT INTO 

3520
02:06:20,906 --> 02:06:24,977
PEOPLE THAT ARE GUN VIOLENCE 

3521
02:06:24,977 --> 02:06:26,011
PREVENTION FOLKS, I DID THAT 

3522
02:06:26,011 --> 02:06:26,845
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE 

3523
02:06:26,845 --> 02:06:27,947
TIME THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. 

3524
02:06:27,947 --> 02:06:29,148
AND I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE 

3525
02:06:29,148 --> 02:06:30,816
AND ARGUE IF CAMERAS ARE GOOD OR

3526
02:06:30,816 --> 02:06:32,785
NOT. I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE 

3527
02:06:32,785 --> 02:06:34,153
FACTS OF THE CRIMES THAT THEY 

3528
02:06:34,153 --> 02:06:37,489
HAVE LED TO SOLVING. THE ONES 

3529
02:06:37,489 --> 02:06:39,992
THAT ARE IN OTHER CITIES AS 

3530
02:06:39,992 --> 02:06:42,094
WELL. AND NOW WE'RE AT A REALLY

3531
02:06:42,094 --> 02:06:43,295
CRITICAL POINT WHERE WE SEE THAT

3532
02:06:43,295 --> 02:06:45,397
WE DON'T WE WON'T HAVE ENOUGH 

3533
02:06:45,397 --> 02:06:46,799
OFFICERS THAT ARE IN COMPARISON 

3534
02:06:46,799 --> 02:06:47,866
TO THE OTHER CITIES THAT PEOPLE 

3535
02:06:47,866 --> 02:06:49,535
LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AND SAY, 

3536
02:06:49,535 --> 02:06:50,736
WELL, THIS IS WORKING IN 

3537
02:06:50,736 --> 02:06:52,671
BALTIMORE AND LOOK AT NEW YORK 

3538
02:06:52,671 --> 02:06:54,239
AND LOOK HOW AMAZING CHICAGO IS.

3539
02:06:54,239 --> 02:06:57,876
FINE. BUT WE DO NEED TOOLS 

3540
02:06:57,876 --> 02:07:02,314
HOLISTICALLY IN ADDITION TO NOT 

3541
02:07:02,314 --> 02:07:05,784
ONLY CAMERAS, BUT ALSO THE GUN 

3542
02:07:05,784 --> 02:07:06,385
VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLAN, THE 

3543
02:07:06,385 --> 02:07:08,187
NATIONAL, THE NETWORK OF, OF 

3544
02:07:08,187 --> 02:07:10,923
SAFE COMMUNITIES. WE NEED IT 

3545
02:07:10,923 --> 02:07:12,191
ALL. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S 

3546
02:07:12,191 --> 02:07:14,026
THE ONE THING THAT IS MISSING 

3547
02:07:14,026 --> 02:07:15,227
BECAUSE WE JUST DRILL DOWN ON 

3548
02:07:15,227 --> 02:07:17,196
ONE THING THAT IS SO POLITICALLY

3549
02:07:17,196 --> 02:07:18,831
HOT AND NOT THE WHOLE PICTURE. 

3550
02:07:18,831 --> 02:07:21,166
WE LITERALLY NEED EVERYTHING. SO

3551
02:07:21,166 --> 02:07:23,969
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT 

3552
02:07:23,969 --> 02:07:25,270
BECAUSE AS I'M LOOKING THROUGH 

3553
02:07:25,270 --> 02:07:27,373
THIS BUDGET AND WHAT WOULD HELP 

3554
02:07:27,373 --> 02:07:28,974
ME AGAIN, WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT 

3555
02:07:28,974 --> 02:07:31,677
POINTS IN WHICH THE SEATTLE 

3556
02:07:31,677 --> 02:07:32,311
POLICE DEPARTMENT CHARACTERIZES 

3557
02:07:32,311 --> 02:07:35,681
SUCCESS FOR OUR CITY. AND THEN 

3558
02:07:35,681 --> 02:07:36,448
HOW DOES THIS BUDGET IMPACT 

3559
02:07:36,448 --> 02:07:38,784
RESPONSE TIMES AND AND SO FORTH.

3560
02:07:38,784 --> 02:07:40,619
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I 

3561
02:07:40,619 --> 02:07:43,589
WILL I WILL BE LOOKING FOR. I 

3562
02:07:43,589 --> 02:07:45,658
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND 

3563
02:07:45,658 --> 02:07:47,059
HELP. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MY

3564
02:07:47,059 --> 02:07:47,993
COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS. I'M NOT 

3565
02:07:47,993 --> 02:07:49,628
HERE TO ARGUE ABOUT CAMERAS IF 

3566
02:07:49,628 --> 02:07:50,829
THEY WORK OR IF THEY DON'T WORK.

3567
02:07:50,829 --> 02:07:52,331
I'M JUST HERE TELLING EVERYONE 

3568
02:07:52,331 --> 02:07:54,066
THE FACTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

3569
02:07:54,066 --> 02:07:55,667
AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS. THIS 

3570
02:07:55,667 --> 02:07:57,636
IS MY LAST THING. COUNCILMEMBER 

3571
02:07:57,636 --> 02:07:59,204
STRAUSS, I APOLOGIZE, BUDGET 

3572
02:07:59,204 --> 02:08:05,611
CHAIR, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHEN 

3573
02:08:05,611 --> 02:08:06,412
WE HAVE FOLKS THAT CAN JUST 

3574
02:08:06,412 --> 02:08:08,814
STRAIGHT JUST CAN ANSWER A 

3575
02:08:08,814 --> 02:08:11,383
QUESTION AND COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 

3576
02:08:11,383 --> 02:08:14,219
ASKED YOU, HEY, WILL A CAMERA 

3577
02:08:14,219 --> 02:08:15,888
HELP SOLVE A CRIME IF IT'S BEING

3578
02:08:15,888 --> 02:08:17,222
RECORDED, THAT IS A YES OR NO 

3579
02:08:17,222 --> 02:08:20,659
QUESTION. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE 

3580
02:08:20,659 --> 02:08:22,995
PEOPLE SILENCED ON TV WHEN THEY 

3581
02:08:22,995 --> 02:08:23,996
ARE SITTING NEXT TO A 

3582
02:08:23,996 --> 02:08:25,564
POLITICIAN. IF THEY CAN ANSWER A

3583
02:08:25,564 --> 02:08:27,666
STRAIGHT QUESTION, YES OR NO, 

3584
02:08:27,666 --> 02:08:30,035
BECAUSE IT THEN GOES AGAINST 

3585
02:08:30,035 --> 02:08:32,271
SOME OF THE CHARACTERS AND THE 

3586
02:08:32,271 --> 02:08:35,174
PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT WANT TO 

3587
02:08:35,174 --> 02:08:35,774
ANSWER CERTAIN QUESTIONS BUT 

3588
02:08:35,774 --> 02:08:37,076
CAN'T BECAUSE THEY FEEL 

3589
02:08:37,076 --> 02:08:39,378
SILENCED. AND IT'S JUST SO 

3590
02:08:39,378 --> 02:08:40,379
DISRESPECTFUL. SO I JUST WANT US

3591
02:08:40,379 --> 02:08:43,048
TO GET TO A PLACE OF COMMON 

3592
02:08:43,048 --> 02:08:45,884
SENSE WHERE WE CAN JUST ANSWER 

3593
02:08:45,884 --> 02:08:48,420
QUESTIONS VERY SIMPLY, OKAY, 

3594
02:08:48,420 --> 02:08:50,055
REGARDING DOES THIS TOOL HELP 

3595
02:08:50,055 --> 02:08:51,957
US? YES OR NO? THAT'S IT. I 

3596
02:08:51,957 --> 02:08:55,160
DON'T WANT TO HEAR A SPEECH OR 

3597
02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:58,564
A DISSERTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU,

3598
02:08:58,564 --> 02:08:58,897
CHIEF SALES. 

3599
02:08:58,897 --> 02:09:01,266
-- THANK YOU. CHIEF DIRECTOR 

3600
02:09:01,266 --> 02:09:03,068
TABLE. ANYTHING TO RESPOND 

3601
02:09:03,068 --> 02:09:05,137
THERE? NOPE. COUNCILMEMBER 

3602
02:09:05,137 --> 02:09:05,804
RIVERA HAS HER HAND UP BECAUSE 

3603
02:09:05,804 --> 02:09:07,606
EVERYONE OTHER THAN MYSELF HAS 

3604
02:09:07,606 --> 02:09:09,274
ALREADY SPOKEN. WE'LL RECOGNIZE

3605
02:09:09,274 --> 02:09:10,642
YOU FOR A BRIEF COMMENT OR 

3606
02:09:10,642 --> 02:09:10,909
QUESTION. 

3607
02:09:10,909 --> 02:09:13,112
-- THANK YOU. I JUST REALLY 

3608
02:09:13,112 --> 02:09:15,347
WANTED TO ADD TO WHAT MY 

3609
02:09:15,347 --> 02:09:17,916
COLLEAGUES COUNCILMEMBER SAKA 

3610
02:09:17,916 --> 02:09:19,818
AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAVE SAID 

3611
02:09:19,818 --> 02:09:21,220
ABOUT CAMERAS IS THAT ONE POINT 

3612
02:09:21,220 --> 02:09:22,054
THAT HASN'T COME UP IS THE FACT

3613
02:09:22,054 --> 02:09:25,524
THAT WE'VE RELIED ON PERSONAL 

3614
02:09:25,524 --> 02:09:26,692
CAMERAS WHEN SOMETHING HAS 

3615
02:09:26,692 --> 02:09:28,994
HAPPENED, WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE 

3616
02:09:28,994 --> 02:09:30,295
IF THEY'VE RECORDED. EVERYONE 

3617
02:09:30,295 --> 02:09:32,431
HAS A PHONE WITH A CAMERA ON IT,

3618
02:09:32,431 --> 02:09:35,000
AND WHEN THINGS HAPPEN, THEY'VE

3619
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:36,335
RECORDED THINGS OR BUSINESSES 

3620
02:09:36,335 --> 02:09:37,870
HAVE CAMERAS, AND THEN SPD IS 

3621
02:09:37,870 --> 02:09:40,339
ASKING BUSINESSES OR THE PUBLIC 

3622
02:09:40,339 --> 02:09:42,141
AT LARGE IF THEY'VE CAPTURED 

3623
02:09:42,141 --> 02:09:43,775
ANYTHING ON THEIR CAMERAS. SO 

3624
02:09:43,775 --> 02:09:45,644
THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT CAMERAS,

3625
02:09:45,644 --> 02:09:48,180
TO ME, THAT'S THAT'S 

3626
02:09:48,180 --> 02:09:49,314
EMBARRASSING THAT WE HAVE TO ASK

3627
02:09:49,314 --> 02:09:52,117
THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR CAMERA 

3628
02:09:52,117 --> 02:09:53,652
FOOTAGE BECAUSE WE'RE REFUSING 

3629
02:09:53,652 --> 02:09:55,621
TO PUT CAMERAS IN PLACES WHERE 

3630
02:09:55,621 --> 02:09:57,156
THEY NEED TO BE SO THAT WHEN 

3631
02:09:57,156 --> 02:10:00,459
CRIME DOES HAPPEN, WE'RE ABLE 

3632
02:10:00,459 --> 02:10:01,860
TO SOLVE CRIME AND PROVIDE 

3633
02:10:01,860 --> 02:10:04,796
ANSWERS TO THE FOLKS THAT HAVE 

3634
02:10:04,796 --> 02:10:07,533
BEEN HURT BY IN THESE CRIMES. SO

3635
02:10:07,533 --> 02:10:11,370
TO ME, THAT IS ANOTHER REASON 

3636
02:10:11,370 --> 02:10:13,405
WHY THIS WHOLE CAMERA PIECE AND 

3637
02:10:13,405 --> 02:10:13,906
COUNCILMEMBER, COUNCIL 

3638
02:10:13,906 --> 02:10:16,308
PRESIDENT, AND I AGREE WITH YOU,

3639
02:10:16,308 --> 02:10:17,709
THIS ISN'T A POLITICAL, IT'S A

3640
02:10:17,709 --> 02:10:20,445
FACTS. WE DO ASK PEOPLE FOR 

3641
02:10:20,445 --> 02:10:22,080
THEIR PERSONAL FOOTAGE IN ORDER 

3642
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:24,249
TO SOLVE CRIME. THAT DOES NOT 

3643
02:10:24,249 --> 02:10:26,285
MAKE ANY SENSE. THANK YOU, 

3644
02:10:26,285 --> 02:10:27,953
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. 

3645
02:10:27,953 --> 02:10:29,087
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

3646
02:10:29,087 --> 02:10:29,721
RIVERA. I'M GOING TO SHARE MY 

3647
02:10:29,721 --> 02:10:30,956
QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS, AND 

3648
02:10:30,956 --> 02:10:32,024
THEN WE WILL PASS IT BACK TO THE

3649
02:10:32,024 --> 02:10:33,392
COMMITTEE TABLE FOR FINAL 

3650
02:10:33,392 --> 02:10:34,293
COMMENTS, AND THEN WE WILL PASS 

3651
02:10:34,293 --> 02:10:36,228
IT BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.

3652
02:10:36,228 --> 02:10:37,162
AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE 

3653
02:10:37,162 --> 02:10:38,964
OVERSEEING THIS DEPARTMENT, WE 

3654
02:10:38,964 --> 02:10:42,000
WILL THEN TAKE AN ASSESSMENT OF 

3655
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,102
IF WE WILL GO TO LUNCH OR IF 

3656
02:10:44,102 --> 02:10:47,039
WE'LL JUST TAKE A BRIEF BREAK 

3657
02:10:47,039 --> 02:10:49,808
BETWEEN CARE AND SPD. SO THAT'S

3658
02:10:49,808 --> 02:10:53,178
WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND I DON'T

3659
02:10:53,178 --> 02:10:54,980
HAVE THE CORRECT SLIDES IN FRONT

3660
02:10:54,980 --> 02:10:56,748
OF ME BECAUSE I TOOK SOME NOTES.

3661
02:10:56,748 --> 02:10:57,349
BUT CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME THE 

3662
02:10:57,349 --> 02:10:59,151
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE INTERFUND

3663
02:10:59,151 --> 02:11:00,419
CHARGES AND THE PROFESSIONAL 

3664
02:11:00,419 --> 02:11:01,787
SERVICES? I KNOW THAT YOU 

3665
02:11:01,787 --> 02:11:03,855
TOUCHED ON THE PROFESSIONAL 

3666
02:11:03,855 --> 02:11:04,456
SERVICES. WHEN COUNCILMEMBER 

3667
02:11:04,456 --> 02:11:06,058
RINCK ASKED ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT

3668
02:11:06,058 --> 02:11:11,430
WAS ABOUT TWO HOURS AGO 

3669
02:11:11,430 --> 02:11:13,532
-- YEAH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO 

3670
02:11:13,532 --> 02:11:17,369
THAT. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS 

3671
02:11:17,369 --> 02:11:19,571
INTERFUND CHARGES ARE THE KINDS 

3672
02:11:19,571 --> 02:11:22,341
OF NON-DISCRETIONARY CENTRALLY 

3673
02:11:22,341 --> 02:11:24,710
ALLOCATED COSTS THAT COME TO 

3674
02:11:24,710 --> 02:11:27,246
MOST DEPARTMENTS FROM OUR 

3675
02:11:27,246 --> 02:11:27,813
FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE 

3676
02:11:27,813 --> 02:11:32,618
SERVICES, HR AND IT DEPARTMENTS,

3677
02:11:32,618 --> 02:11:35,621
THINGS LIKE RENT AND COMPUTERS 

3678
02:11:35,621 --> 02:11:38,690
AND CENTRAL HR FUNCTIONS 

3679
02:11:38,690 --> 02:11:40,225
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. THE MORE 

3680
02:11:40,225 --> 02:11:42,294
THAN HALF OF THE. SO THE. ON 

3681
02:11:42,294 --> 02:11:44,196
THIS SLIDE, INTERFUND CHARGES 

3682
02:11:44,196 --> 02:11:49,134
ARE THE GREEN WEDGE PROFESSIONAL

3683
02:11:49,134 --> 02:11:50,602
SERVICES IS A SUBSET OF THE 

3684
02:11:50,602 --> 02:11:53,538
OTHER. THAT BLACK WEDGE 

3685
02:11:53,538 --> 02:11:55,874
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IS ABOUT 

3686
02:11:55,874 --> 02:11:58,477
$12 MILLION. IT FUNDS A VARIETY 

3687
02:11:58,477 --> 02:12:02,547
OF THINGS. MORE THAN HALF OF IT 

3688
02:12:02,547 --> 02:12:05,684
IS FOR THE ATSC FUND. OUR 

3689
02:12:05,684 --> 02:12:07,819
CONTRACTOR VENDOR WHO. WHO 

3690
02:12:07,819 --> 02:12:09,821
MANAGES THAT PROGRAM FOR THE 

3691
02:12:09,821 --> 02:12:11,923
CITY. BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES A 

3692
02:12:11,923 --> 02:12:15,327
VARIETY OF CONSULTANT SERVICES 

3693
02:12:15,327 --> 02:12:18,397
THAT WE WE HIRE ON CONTRACT TO 

3694
02:12:18,397 --> 02:12:19,498
SUPPLEMENT WHAT OUR STAFF DOES. 

3695
02:12:19,498 --> 02:12:20,732
-- THANK YOU. YOU MAY HAVE JUST 

3696
02:12:20,732 --> 02:12:22,734
WALKED INTO A TRAP 

3697
02:12:22,734 --> 02:12:24,603
UNINTENTIONALLY. I WILL GO TO 

3698
02:12:24,603 --> 02:12:26,004
DIRECTOR PANUCCI AND THEN WE'LL

3699
02:12:26,004 --> 02:12:28,006
TALK ABOUT THE AUTOMATED 

3700
02:12:28,006 --> 02:12:29,574
AUTOMATED TRAFFIC SAFETY 

3701
02:12:29,574 --> 02:12:31,643
CAMERAS. OH. 

3702
02:12:31,643 --> 02:12:33,245
-- THAT TRAP. I'M NOT GOING TO 

3703
02:12:33,245 --> 02:12:37,182
TOUCH THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO

3704
02:12:37,182 --> 02:12:38,550
ALSO HIGHLIGHT. FOR THE 

3705
02:12:38,550 --> 02:12:40,786
INTERFUND CHARGES, BECAUSE 

3706
02:12:40,786 --> 02:12:41,720
SOMETIMES IT ISN'T CLEAR THAT 

3707
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:44,056
WHERE THE BUDGET IS FOR LARGE 

3708
02:12:44,056 --> 02:12:45,357
PURCHASES LIKE VEHICLES, 

3709
02:12:45,357 --> 02:12:46,558
FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE, THAT 

3710
02:12:46,558 --> 02:12:48,694
SORT OF THING THAT ARE IS 

3711
02:12:48,694 --> 02:12:49,394
MANAGED THROUGH OUR FAS 

3712
02:12:49,394 --> 02:12:50,262
DEPARTMENT. SO I JUST WANTED TO,

3713
02:12:50,262 --> 02:12:51,663
TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE 

3714
02:12:51,663 --> 02:12:54,700
OTHER VERY EXPENSIVE ITEMS THAT,

3715
02:12:54,700 --> 02:12:57,069
THAT DRIVE UP THAT, THAT COST 

3716
02:12:57,069 --> 02:12:58,036
FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC. 

3717
02:12:58,036 --> 02:12:59,738
-- THANK YOU. WE'RE SKIPPING TO

3718
02:12:59,738 --> 02:13:01,974
THE SPEED CAMERAS BECAUSE OF 

3719
02:13:01,974 --> 02:13:02,841
THIS LAST QUESTION. ARE YOU 

3720
02:13:02,841 --> 02:13:05,077
TELLING ME THAT WE ARE SPENDING 

3721
02:13:05,077 --> 02:13:06,278
$12 MILLION A YEAR TO HAVE ZERO 

3722
02:13:06,278 --> 02:13:09,114
SPEED CAMERAS ON OUR STREETS? 

3723
02:13:09,114 --> 02:13:11,917
-- IT'S ABOUT $7 MILLION IN THE

3724
02:13:11,917 --> 02:13:14,519
PROPOSED BUDGET. SO SEVEN OF THE

3725
02:13:14,519 --> 02:13:16,955
$12 MILLION IS FOR THE VENDOR 

3726
02:13:16,955 --> 02:13:18,724
COSTS FOR THE THE AUTOMATED 

3727
02:13:18,724 --> 02:13:20,659
TRAFFIC SAFETY CAMERAS. I DON'T

3728
02:13:20,659 --> 02:13:21,560
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SHARE OF THAT 

3729
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:24,296
IS FOR THE THE SEVEN NEW CAMERAS

3730
02:13:24,296 --> 02:13:28,100
THAT WILL BE INSTALLED IN 2027 

3731
02:13:28,100 --> 02:13:31,436
FOR DEDICATED SPEED CAMERAS. BUT

3732
02:13:31,436 --> 02:13:33,171
IT ALSO INCLUDES THE BLOCK THE 

3733
02:13:33,171 --> 02:13:34,706
BOX, TRANSIT LANES, RED LIGHT 

3734
02:13:34,706 --> 02:13:36,608
CAMERAS, SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS, 

3735
02:13:36,608 --> 02:13:36,942
AND THE LIKE. 

3736
02:13:36,942 --> 02:13:38,744
-- OKAY, I MAKE THAT POINT 

3737
02:13:38,744 --> 02:13:40,345
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 

3738
02:13:40,345 --> 02:13:42,080
TWO YEARS NOW FOR SPEED CAMERAS 

3739
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:43,815
TO BE ON THE STREETS. I HAVE 

3740
02:13:43,815 --> 02:13:48,387
FOLLOWED UP WITH SDOT REGULARLY.

3741
02:13:48,387 --> 02:13:49,654
IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE WE TOOK

3742
02:13:49,654 --> 02:13:51,456
A WALKING TOUR ON EIGHTH AVENUE 

3743
02:13:51,456 --> 02:13:53,492
NORTHWEST TWO YEARS AGO, AND 

3744
02:13:53,492 --> 02:13:55,727
MADE THE REQUEST FOR A SPEED 

3745
02:13:55,727 --> 02:13:57,262
CAMERA THAT HAD ALREADY PASSED 

3746
02:13:57,262 --> 02:13:57,896
THROUGH THE POLICE OFFICER'S 

3747
02:13:57,896 --> 02:13:58,997
GUILD CONTRACT THAT HAD ALREADY 

3748
02:13:58,997 --> 02:14:01,333
PASSED THROUGH COUNCIL, THAT HAD

3749
02:14:01,333 --> 02:14:03,435
ALREADY PASSED THROUGH THE STATE

3750
02:14:03,435 --> 02:14:04,936
LEGISLATURE. THIS HAS BEEN FOR 

3751
02:14:04,936 --> 02:14:06,638
SOME PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. I 

3752
02:14:06,638 --> 02:14:07,272
BELIEVE THEY THEY TESTIFIED TO 

3753
02:14:07,272 --> 02:14:11,476
THIS POLICY IN 2014. I CAN TELL 

3754
02:14:11,476 --> 02:14:13,045
YOU THAT IT WAS THAT SAME YEAR 

3755
02:14:13,045 --> 02:14:15,814
AND BEFORE THAT, I WAS WORKING 

3756
02:14:15,814 --> 02:14:19,051
ON IT FOR THE STATE SENATOR FROM

3757
02:14:19,051 --> 02:14:20,252
SEATTLE HERE IN OLYMPIA. THAT 

3758
02:14:20,252 --> 02:14:23,955
IS. AND SO WE ARE 16 YEARS INTO 

3759
02:14:23,955 --> 02:14:26,425
THIS DISCUSSION, WE'VE HAD TWO 

3760
02:14:26,425 --> 02:14:29,494
YEARS OF BOTH UNION ALLOWANCES 

3761
02:14:29,494 --> 02:14:31,296
AS WELL AS LEGISLATIVE 

3762
02:14:31,296 --> 02:14:32,664
ALLOWANCES, AS WELL AS FUNDING 

3763
02:14:32,664 --> 02:14:34,232
FOR THESE SPEED CAMERAS. AND TO 

3764
02:14:34,232 --> 02:14:39,871
DATE, WE HAVE ZERO ON OUR 

3765
02:14:39,871 --> 02:14:41,273
STREETS. AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS

3766
02:14:41,273 --> 02:14:46,578
THAT WE HAVE SEVEN IN THE WORKS.

3767
02:14:46,578 --> 02:14:49,214
AND WITH THAT'S JUST IT'S 

3768
02:14:49,214 --> 02:14:49,848
FUNDAMENTALLY NOT OKAY WITH ME 

3769
02:14:49,848 --> 02:14:51,049
THAT WE'RE SPENDING THIS MUCH 

3770
02:14:51,049 --> 02:14:54,986
AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET TO ZERO. 

3771
02:14:54,986 --> 02:14:56,955
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT SPEED 

3772
02:14:56,955 --> 02:14:58,590
CAMERAS ARE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN 

3773
02:14:58,590 --> 02:15:01,860
SPEED HUMPS OR SPEED CUSHIONS. 

3774
02:15:01,860 --> 02:15:03,962
WE KNOW THAT SPEED CAMERAS ARE 

3775
02:15:03,962 --> 02:15:07,065
MORE EFFECTIVE THAN ANY OF THE 

3776
02:15:07,065 --> 02:15:07,699
TRAFFIC ENGINEERING OPTIONS THAT

3777
02:15:07,699 --> 02:15:09,701
HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN THE PAST, 

3778
02:15:09,701 --> 02:15:10,368
WHETHER IT'S NARROWING OF LANES

3779
02:15:10,368 --> 02:15:12,971
OR WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM SDOT 

3780
02:15:12,971 --> 02:15:15,807
USING BIKE LANES TO TRY TO SLOW 

3781
02:15:15,807 --> 02:15:17,275
DOWN TRAFFIC. NINE OUT OF TEN 

3782
02:15:17,275 --> 02:15:18,643
PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE A SPEED 

3783
02:15:18,643 --> 02:15:20,212
TICKET OR RED LIGHT TICKET OR 

3784
02:15:20,212 --> 02:15:21,613
SCHOOL ZONE TICKET. NINE OUT OF 

3785
02:15:21,613 --> 02:15:23,815
TEN, DON'T DO IT AGAIN. THAT IS

3786
02:15:23,815 --> 02:15:28,153
MORE EFFECTIVE THAN THE F ONE 

3787
02:15:28,153 --> 02:15:30,422
50s THAT I SEE CAREENING OVER 

3788
02:15:30,422 --> 02:15:31,656
THESE SPEED CUSHIONS IN OUR 

3789
02:15:31,656 --> 02:15:32,924
STREETS. AND SO YOU'RE GETTING A

3790
02:15:32,924 --> 02:15:34,593
BIT OF SERIOUSNESS FROM ME IN A 

3791
02:15:34,593 --> 02:15:36,561
DIFFERENT CAMERA TYPE THAN MY 

3792
02:15:36,561 --> 02:15:39,097
COLLEAGUES, BUT IT'S BECAUSE WE

3793
02:15:39,097 --> 02:15:42,100
HAVE LITERALLY PAVED THE WAY. 

3794
02:15:42,100 --> 02:15:43,335
TWO YEARS AGO, AND I DON'T SEE 

3795
02:15:43,335 --> 02:15:47,005
ANY ON THE STREETS TODAY. SO IF 

3796
02:15:47,005 --> 02:15:47,939
THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO

3797
02:15:47,939 --> 02:15:48,907
SHARE THERE, THERE WASN'T A 

3798
02:15:48,907 --> 02:15:50,408
QUESTION, BUT I MADE A PRETTY 

3799
02:15:50,408 --> 02:15:51,409
INTENSE STATEMENT RIGHT NOW. SO 

3800
02:15:51,409 --> 02:15:53,044
IF YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND, YOU 

3801
02:15:53,044 --> 02:15:57,182
HAVE THE FLOOR 

3802
02:15:57,182 --> 02:15:59,417
-- I'LL JUST SAY THE MAYOR 

3803
02:15:59,417 --> 02:15:59,951
SHARES YOUR INTEREST AND 

3804
02:15:59,951 --> 02:16:00,685
PRIORITIES IN MOVING THIS. AND 

3805
02:16:00,685 --> 02:16:03,255
IT WAS NAMED IN THE EXECUTIVE 

3806
02:16:03,255 --> 02:16:04,723
ORDER. THIS BUDGET IS TRYING TO 

3807
02:16:04,723 --> 02:16:05,357
MOVE THESE THINGS QUICKLY. THERE

3808
02:16:05,357 --> 02:16:07,926
ARE SOME IMPLEMENTATION 

3809
02:16:07,926 --> 02:16:10,228
CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO

3810
02:16:10,228 --> 02:16:11,329
ACCELERATE THAT WE INHERITED TO 

3811
02:16:11,329 --> 02:16:12,330
SOME EXTENT. AND I'LL FOLLOW UP

3812
02:16:12,330 --> 02:16:13,198
WITH MORE INFORMATION, BECAUSE 

3813
02:16:13,198 --> 02:16:14,666
IT'S A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS 

3814
02:16:14,666 --> 02:16:15,734
THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS. BUT 

3815
02:16:15,734 --> 02:16:17,269
WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON OFF. EXCUSE 

3816
02:16:17,269 --> 02:16:20,105
ME. WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU 

3817
02:16:20,105 --> 02:16:20,539
WITH MORE DETAILS. 

3818
02:16:20,539 --> 02:16:22,707
-- THANK YOU FOR HISTORICAL 

3819
02:16:22,707 --> 02:16:24,276
CONTEXT. I THINK IT WAS GREG 

3820
02:16:24,276 --> 02:16:25,810
SPOTTS WHO WAS THE DIRECTOR OF 

3821
02:16:25,810 --> 02:16:27,612
SDOT WHEN THIS WAS PASSED. IF 

3822
02:16:27,612 --> 02:16:30,282
THAT PUTS ANY CLARITY INTO 

3823
02:16:30,282 --> 02:16:30,949
PERSPECTIVE. CHIEF SALES, I BET 

3824
02:16:30,949 --> 02:16:33,084
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO GREG 

3825
02:16:33,084 --> 02:16:34,586
SPOTTS IS. IT'S BEEN THAT LONG.

3826
02:16:34,586 --> 02:16:36,188
OH MY GOODNESS. WE'LL GET TO 

3827
02:16:36,188 --> 02:16:41,026
SDOT NEXT WEEK. I WANT TO FOCUS 

3828
02:16:41,026 --> 02:16:45,597
IN ON COMING BACK TO PAGE 345 OF

3829
02:16:45,597 --> 02:16:47,632
THE BUDGET BOOK. REFLECT CURRENT

3830
02:16:47,632 --> 02:16:50,168
STAFFING LEVELS OF CIVILIAN 

3831
02:16:50,168 --> 02:16:51,970
INVESTIGATIVE SUPPORT. I WANT TO

3832
02:16:51,970 --> 02:16:55,073
CHECK AND CONFIRM. IS THIS. 

3833
02:16:55,073 --> 02:16:56,174
IT'S MY RECOLLECTION THAT IN 

3834
02:16:56,174 --> 02:16:59,444
THE LAST POLICE OFFICER'S GUILD

3835
02:16:59,444 --> 02:17:02,113
CONTRACT, WE HAD AN ALLOWANCE 

3836
02:17:02,113 --> 02:17:04,049
FOR FORMER OFFICERS TO COME OUT 

3837
02:17:04,049 --> 02:17:05,383
OF RETIREMENT TO ASSIST IN 

3838
02:17:05,383 --> 02:17:08,353
GENERAL INVESTIGATIONS, BECAUSE 

3839
02:17:08,353 --> 02:17:10,322
WE HAD A SHORTAGE OF OFFICERS, 

3840
02:17:10,322 --> 02:17:12,090
WHICH MEANT THAT WE NEEDED TO 

3841
02:17:12,090 --> 02:17:13,992
TAKE DETECTIVES AND PUT THEM 

3842
02:17:13,992 --> 02:17:17,228
INTO PATROL. AND THIS MEANS WAS 

3843
02:17:17,228 --> 02:17:20,799
A WAY OF EFFECTIVELY BOLSTERING 

3844
02:17:20,799 --> 02:17:22,033
OUR ABILITY TO FOLLOW UP ON 

3845
02:17:22,033 --> 02:17:25,370
POLICE REPORTS, INVESTIGATE 

3846
02:17:25,370 --> 02:17:27,472
CRIMES AND MAKE THE CASE FOR 

3847
02:17:27,472 --> 02:17:29,941
PROSECUTORS TO TAKE TO COURT 

3848
02:17:29,941 --> 02:17:31,243
WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH. 

3849
02:17:31,243 --> 02:17:32,043
AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE 2 TO

3850
02:17:32,043 --> 02:17:33,478
3 YEAR PERIOD THAT IT TAKES TO 

3851
02:17:33,478 --> 02:17:35,880
GET AN OFFICER FROM THE FROM 

3852
02:17:35,880 --> 02:17:37,082
SUBMITTING THEIR APPLICATION OUT

3853
02:17:37,082 --> 02:17:39,317
TO THE STREET. BUT IS THIS THAT 

3854
02:17:39,317 --> 02:17:43,455
GROUP IS IS THIS ITEM ON PAGE 

3855
02:17:43,455 --> 02:17:46,925
345? IS THIS THAT GROUP? AND 

3856
02:17:46,925 --> 02:17:50,528
ANYONE. YES. AND SO ARE WE 

3857
02:17:50,528 --> 02:17:53,598
EFFECTIVELY SAYING THAT WE 

3858
02:17:53,598 --> 02:17:55,700
BARGAINED FOR THIS ABILITY TO 

3859
02:17:55,700 --> 02:17:57,168
HAVE BETTER INVESTIGATIONS? AND 

3860
02:17:57,168 --> 02:17:58,770
NOW WE ARE WALKING AWAY FROM IT?

3861
02:17:58,770 --> 02:18:01,940
OR I GUESS, WHAT'S THE STATEMENT

3862
02:18:01,940 --> 02:18:02,807
HERE? 

3863
02:18:02,807 --> 02:18:04,709
-- I WOULDN'T SAY THAT, 

3864
02:18:04,709 --> 02:18:06,077
COUNCILMEMBER. WE WE HAVE SEVEN 

3865
02:18:06,077 --> 02:18:09,180
FTES WHO HAVE BEEN HIRED TO DO 

3866
02:18:09,180 --> 02:18:11,016
THIS WORK AND WILL CONTINUE 

3867
02:18:11,016 --> 02:18:13,385
DOING THAT WORK. WE DID NOT HAVE

3868
02:18:13,385 --> 02:18:15,754
THE RESOURCES IN THE PROPOSED 

3869
02:18:15,754 --> 02:18:19,224
BUDGET TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF 

3870
02:18:19,224 --> 02:18:21,993
RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS, 

3871
02:18:21,993 --> 02:18:23,728
CIVILIAN SUPPORT STAFF TO HELP 

3872
02:18:23,728 --> 02:18:27,165
WITH INVESTIGATIONS. IT WOULD BE

3873
02:18:27,165 --> 02:18:29,701
GREAT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO 

3874
02:18:29,701 --> 02:18:31,636
EXPAND THE NUMBER OF CIVILIANS 

3875
02:18:31,636 --> 02:18:32,937
WHO ARE DOING THIS WORK, BUT 

3876
02:18:32,937 --> 02:18:34,673
THERE WERE TRADE OFFS THAT HAD 

3877
02:18:34,673 --> 02:18:36,675
TO HAPPEN IN THE GENERAL FUND. 

3878
02:18:36,675 --> 02:18:39,778
-- SO FOR THE FOR THE RESIDENTS 

3879
02:18:39,778 --> 02:18:41,046
OF MY DISTRICT AND THE ENTIRE 

3880
02:18:41,046 --> 02:18:42,113
CITY WHO I WORK WITH ON A 

3881
02:18:42,113 --> 02:18:43,748
REGULAR BASIS, WHO REPORT TO ME 

3882
02:18:43,748 --> 02:18:46,418
THAT THEY'VE MADE POLICE 

3883
02:18:46,418 --> 02:18:47,786
REPORTS ABOUT THE SAME 

3884
02:18:47,786 --> 02:18:49,354
INDIVIDUAL, SAME GROUPS OF 

3885
02:18:49,354 --> 02:18:51,156
INDIVIDUALS OR THE SAME TYPES OF

3886
02:18:51,156 --> 02:18:51,790
CRIMES HAPPENING REPEATEDLY, 

3887
02:18:51,790 --> 02:18:53,158
WHETHER IT'S OUR SMALL 

3888
02:18:53,158 --> 02:18:55,794
BUSINESSES BEING HIT WITH COPPER

3889
02:18:55,794 --> 02:18:58,363
THEFT, OUR RESTAURANTS ARE 

3890
02:18:58,363 --> 02:19:01,166
EXPERIENCING THIS AS RECENTLY AS

3891
02:19:01,166 --> 02:19:02,000
THIS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, 

3892
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:03,968
WHERE THEY WERE GOING INTO THE 

3893
02:19:03,968 --> 02:19:05,670
REFRIGERATION UNITS, PICKING THE

3894
02:19:05,670 --> 02:19:06,504
LOCKS, PUTTING THE LOCKS BACK ON

3895
02:19:06,504 --> 02:19:07,939
SO FOLKS WOULDN'T NOTICE. 

3896
02:19:07,939 --> 02:19:10,141
THAT'S NOT A FLY BY NIGHT. 

3897
02:19:10,141 --> 02:19:13,812
THAT'S A SOPHISTICATED CRIME. 

3898
02:19:13,812 --> 02:19:15,980
ARE WE SAYING THAT WE HAVE 

3899
02:19:15,980 --> 02:19:17,248
ENOUGH PEOPLE? BECAUSE WHAT I'M

3900
02:19:17,248 --> 02:19:19,351
HEARING FROM MY RESIDENTS IS 

3901
02:19:19,351 --> 02:19:20,819
THAT THEY AREN'T HAVING THESE 

3902
02:19:20,819 --> 02:19:22,987
CRIMES FOLLOWED UP UPON. AND SO 

3903
02:19:22,987 --> 02:19:27,759
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SAY TO

3904
02:19:27,759 --> 02:19:28,393
MY RESIDENTS AT THIS TIME ABOUT 

3905
02:19:28,393 --> 02:19:30,395
HOW WE ARE INVESTIGATING CRIMES?

3906
02:19:30,395 --> 02:19:33,598
-- I, AS A CHIEF OF POLICE, WE 

3907
02:19:33,598 --> 02:19:35,400
UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION. WE 

3908
02:19:35,400 --> 02:19:36,301
CLEARLY DO. WE HEAR IT WHEN WE 

3909
02:19:36,301 --> 02:19:39,704
SHOW UP TO THE CALLS A COUPLE 

3910
02:19:39,704 --> 02:19:41,172
DAYS LATER, WHEN WE GET THE 

3911
02:19:41,172 --> 02:19:43,508
VOICEMAILS AND EMAILS, WE 

3912
02:19:43,508 --> 02:19:45,643
CLEARLY AND WE UNDERSTAND THE 

3913
02:19:45,643 --> 02:19:47,379
FRUSTRATION OF THOSE COMMUNITY 

3914
02:19:47,379 --> 02:19:48,813
MEMBERS. BUT IN A TIME WHERE WE 

3915
02:19:48,813 --> 02:19:49,447
HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES RIGHT 

3916
02:19:49,447 --> 02:19:51,316
NOW, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND 

3917
02:19:51,316 --> 02:19:53,385
TRIAGE THESE CASES. WE HAVE TO 

3918
02:19:53,385 --> 02:19:55,620
LOOK AT THE SEVERITY OF THE 

3919
02:19:55,620 --> 02:19:57,088
CRIME, ALLEGED CRIME THAT 

3920
02:19:57,088 --> 02:19:58,623
HAPPENED, THE SOLVABILITY RATE, 

3921
02:19:58,623 --> 02:20:00,492
AND THEN PUT OUR RESOURCES WHERE

3922
02:20:00,492 --> 02:20:01,192
WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN SOLVE 

3923
02:20:01,192 --> 02:20:03,061
THIS. AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY, 

3924
02:20:03,061 --> 02:20:04,863
PUT SOME OF THESE CASES AND 

3925
02:20:04,863 --> 02:20:05,797
CALLS ON THE BACK BURNER, AND WE

3926
02:20:05,797 --> 02:20:09,334
HAVE TO GET BACK TO THEM. IT'S 

3927
02:20:09,334 --> 02:20:10,168
UNFORTUNATE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF

3928
02:20:10,168 --> 02:20:12,370
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT PAINS ME TO

3929
02:20:12,370 --> 02:20:14,339
SAY THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT 

3930
02:20:14,339 --> 02:20:15,807
TO BE A PERSON THAT IS LOOKING 

3931
02:20:15,807 --> 02:20:17,709
IN THE EYES OF A COMMUNITY 

3932
02:20:17,709 --> 02:20:19,244
MEMBER AND SAYING, SORRY, BUT 

3933
02:20:19,244 --> 02:20:20,912
YOUR CASE IS NOT IMPORTANT TO US

3934
02:20:20,912 --> 02:20:22,814
RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE TO GO ON TO 

3935
02:20:22,814 --> 02:20:24,816
THIS NEXT ONE. I KNOW OUR POLICE

3936
02:20:24,816 --> 02:20:26,184
DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE 

3937
02:20:26,184 --> 02:20:27,352
OFFICERS WORKING THE STREETS. 

3938
02:20:27,352 --> 02:20:29,287
OUR FOLLOW UP UNITS COME IN 

3939
02:20:29,287 --> 02:20:31,689
EVERY DAY. THEY'RE WORKING VERY

3940
02:20:31,689 --> 02:20:33,358
HARD, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE

3941
02:20:33,358 --> 02:20:34,459
BEST WE CAN. I KNOW NOBODY WANTS

3942
02:20:34,459 --> 02:20:35,693
TO HEAR THAT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING

3943
02:20:35,693 --> 02:20:37,562
AT WAYS TO TRY TO FIGURE THIS 

3944
02:20:37,562 --> 02:20:39,164
OUT AND MOVE FORWARD 

3945
02:20:39,164 --> 02:20:40,565
COLLECTIVELY AS A POLICE 

3946
02:20:40,565 --> 02:20:41,966
DEPARTMENT AND PUT OUR BEST FOOT

3947
02:20:41,966 --> 02:20:42,500
FORWARD FOR THE COMMUNITY 

3948
02:20:42,500 --> 02:20:43,601
MEMBERS HERE IN SEATTLE. 

3949
02:20:43,601 --> 02:20:45,837
-- THANK YOU, CHIEF, AND I'LL 

3950
02:20:45,837 --> 02:20:48,006
SAY THAT IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS,

3951
02:20:48,006 --> 02:20:50,708
THE LAST NINE MONTHS, THANKS TO 

3952
02:20:50,708 --> 02:20:53,011
CHIEF BARNES AND YOURSELF, I 

3953
02:20:53,011 --> 02:20:55,280
HAVE SEEN A HIGHER LEVEL OF 

3954
02:20:55,280 --> 02:20:58,416
RESPONSIVENESS TO REPORTS BEING 

3955
02:20:58,416 --> 02:21:01,386
FILED. THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE 

3956
02:21:01,386 --> 02:21:04,322
IS THAT IT HAS TAKEN YEARS OF 

3957
02:21:04,322 --> 02:21:05,757
MOMENTUM BUILDING TO GET TO 

3958
02:21:05,757 --> 02:21:08,159
THESE LAST NINE MONTHS, AND 

3959
02:21:08,159 --> 02:21:08,726
THESE CIVILIAN POSITIONS IN 

3960
02:21:08,726 --> 02:21:11,162
GENERAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT HAVE

3961
02:21:11,162 --> 02:21:12,463
BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS ASSISTED

3962
02:21:12,463 --> 02:21:14,365
TO GET US HERE TODAY. AND SO 

3963
02:21:14,365 --> 02:21:18,269
WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS BY 

3964
02:21:18,269 --> 02:21:18,837
ELIMINATING THESE POSITIONS 

3965
02:21:18,837 --> 02:21:21,005
TODAY, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE 

3966
02:21:21,005 --> 02:21:22,106
TO FOLLOW UP ON THE COPPER THEFT

3967
02:21:22,106 --> 02:21:24,409
THAT HAPPENED AT BOYLE HEIGHTS 

3968
02:21:24,409 --> 02:21:26,845
COMMUNITY CENTER? WE'VE GOT KIDS

3969
02:21:26,845 --> 02:21:28,746
THAT ARE PLAYING SPORTS IN THE 

3970
02:21:28,746 --> 02:21:32,484
DARK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE 

3971
02:21:32,484 --> 02:21:33,785
ALLOWING COPPER THEFT TO GO ON. 

3972
02:21:33,785 --> 02:21:36,821
AND SO, CHIEF, I'VE GOT I DON'T

3973
02:21:36,821 --> 02:21:38,223
HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HOW YOU'RE 

3974
02:21:38,223 --> 02:21:38,823
RUNNING THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT 

3975
02:21:38,823 --> 02:21:39,524
NOW, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE 

3976
02:21:39,524 --> 02:21:41,593
DOING THE BEST YOU CAN WITH THE 

3977
02:21:41,593 --> 02:21:42,360
RESOURCES YOU HAVE. AND I'M 

3978
02:21:42,360 --> 02:21:44,629
SEEING IMPROVEMENT. BUT WHAT 

3979
02:21:44,629 --> 02:21:46,431
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS IF WE 

3980
02:21:46,431 --> 02:21:49,567
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DETECTIVES TO

3981
02:21:49,567 --> 02:21:52,437
FOLLOW UP ON THE COPPER THEFT AT

3982
02:21:52,437 --> 02:21:53,071
BOYLE HEIGHTS PARK PLAYGROUND, 

3983
02:21:53,071 --> 02:21:55,840
THAT'S PUTTING SPORT REC 

3984
02:21:55,840 --> 02:22:00,245
LEAGUES UNABLE TO PLAY. AND WHY 

3985
02:22:00,245 --> 02:22:02,947
ARE WE REDUCING THIS TODAY? AND 

3986
02:22:02,947 --> 02:22:04,582
SO IT'S NOT FOR YOU, CHIEF. I 

3987
02:22:04,582 --> 02:22:05,683
SEE DIRECTOR PANUCCI IS TRYING 

3988
02:22:05,683 --> 02:22:08,419
TO JUMP IN. SO, DIRECTOR, IF 

3989
02:22:08,419 --> 02:22:09,888
YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING TO SHARE 

3990
02:22:09,888 --> 02:22:10,088
HERE. 

3991
02:22:10,088 --> 02:22:11,389
-- I WOULD JUST SHARE. I 

3992
02:22:11,389 --> 02:22:12,924
APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE SEEN AN 

3993
02:22:12,924 --> 02:22:14,826
IMPROVEMENT. THESE POSITIONS 

3994
02:22:14,826 --> 02:22:15,994
HAVE NEVER BEEN FILLED. SO THE 

3995
02:22:15,994 --> 02:22:17,996
CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE WILL BE

3996
02:22:17,996 --> 02:22:19,531
MAINTAINED. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT

3997
02:22:19,531 --> 02:22:22,467
IS NOT PERFECT OR MEETING ALL OF

3998
02:22:22,467 --> 02:22:24,569
THE NEEDS. THE MAYOR REALLY 

3999
02:22:24,569 --> 02:22:25,203
PRIORITIZED WHERE SHE COULD IN 

4000
02:22:25,203 --> 02:22:28,106
THIS BUDGET, DIRECT SERVICES TO 

4001
02:22:28,106 --> 02:22:29,641
PEOPLE, IN THIS CASE IN THE 

4002
02:22:29,641 --> 02:22:31,843
POLICE DEPARTMENT. GIVEN THE THE

4003
02:22:31,843 --> 02:22:34,546
COST OF MAINTAINING THE STAFFING

4004
02:22:34,546 --> 02:22:38,616
PLAN. AND THAT WAS SAID TO BE 

4005
02:22:38,616 --> 02:22:39,817
FUNDED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, 

4006
02:22:39,817 --> 02:22:41,386
BUT NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL 

4007
02:22:41,386 --> 02:22:43,488
INCREASE. THE PRIORITY WAS 

4008
02:22:43,488 --> 02:22:44,155
FUNDING OFFICERS TO HAVE OUT ON 

4009
02:22:44,155 --> 02:22:48,293
THE STREET. AND SO I HEAR YOU 

4010
02:22:48,293 --> 02:22:49,761
AND THIS BUDGET HAD TO MAKE SOME

4011
02:22:49,761 --> 02:22:51,996
SOME CHOICES. AND SO WE WORKING 

4012
02:22:51,996 --> 02:22:53,898
WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND 

4013
02:22:53,898 --> 02:22:55,300
THEIR CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS IS

4014
02:22:55,300 --> 02:22:56,701
WHERE WE LANDED IN THIS AREA. 

4015
02:22:56,701 --> 02:22:57,802
-- THANK YOU. AND JUST TO 

4016
02:22:57,802 --> 02:22:58,670
CLARIFY, THINGS HAVE GOTTEN 

4017
02:22:58,670 --> 02:23:01,439
BETTER, BUT THEY HAVE NOT YET 

4018
02:23:01,439 --> 02:23:02,407
MET MY LEVEL OF EXPECTATION OF 

4019
02:23:02,407 --> 02:23:05,143
THE SERVICE THAT WE SHOULD BE 

4020
02:23:05,143 --> 02:23:06,244
PROVIDING TO OUR RESTAURATEURS, 

4021
02:23:06,244 --> 02:23:07,979
TO THE KIDS WHO ARE JUST TRYING 

4022
02:23:07,979 --> 02:23:10,982
TO PLAY SOCCER, TO THE FAMILIES 

4023
02:23:10,982 --> 02:23:12,584
ACROSS THE CITY. I'M GOING TO 

4024
02:23:12,584 --> 02:23:15,453
QUICKLY MOVE ON. I FORGOT TO PUT

4025
02:23:15,453 --> 02:23:17,622
MY TIMER ON. SORRY GUYS. I'LL 

4026
02:23:17,622 --> 02:23:18,823
LET THAT ROLL AN EXTRA TEN 

4027
02:23:18,823 --> 02:23:22,894
MINUTES JUST TO JUST FOR IT WANT

4028
02:23:22,894 --> 02:23:26,064
TO COME BACK TO PARKING 

4029
02:23:26,064 --> 02:23:27,198
ENFORCEMENT? I WANT TO SAY ABOUT

4030
02:23:27,198 --> 02:23:29,934
PARKING ENFORCEMENT. THE PARKING

4031
02:23:29,934 --> 02:23:32,136
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND OUR 

4032
02:23:32,136 --> 02:23:34,839
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF 

4033
02:23:34,839 --> 02:23:35,340
CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION 

4034
02:23:35,340 --> 02:23:36,407
INSPECTORS HAVE THE HARDEST JOBS

4035
02:23:36,407 --> 02:23:40,411
IN OUR CITY. AND I SAY THAT 

4036
02:23:40,411 --> 02:23:42,914
BECAUSE THEY BEAR BAD NEWS FOR 

4037
02:23:42,914 --> 02:23:45,683
RESIDENTS THAT THEY'RE NOT IN 

4038
02:23:45,683 --> 02:23:50,221
COMPLIANCE OR THAT THEY ARE NOT,

4039
02:23:50,221 --> 02:23:52,557
IN SOME CASES THAT A 85 DEGREE 

4040
02:23:52,557 --> 02:23:53,524
ANGLE IS NOT PERFECTLY 90, AND 

4041
02:23:53,524 --> 02:23:56,527
THEREFORE YOU CAN'T PASS 

4042
02:23:56,527 --> 02:23:57,228
INSPECTION. I NO MATTER WHAT I 

4043
02:23:57,228 --> 02:23:59,330
MEAN, THAT'S THE LETTER OF THE 

4044
02:23:59,330 --> 02:24:00,298
LAW, RIGHT? THAT'S THE LETTER 

4045
02:24:00,298 --> 02:24:03,434
OF THE CODE, I SHOULD SAY. AND 

4046
02:24:03,434 --> 02:24:04,068
SO PARKING ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT 

4047
02:24:04,068 --> 02:24:05,303
THEM, WE'LL SEE PEOPLE OVER 

4048
02:24:05,303 --> 02:24:07,538
PARKED IN PLACES LIKE UPTOWN 

4049
02:24:07,538 --> 02:24:10,341
WHERE WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY SET 

4050
02:24:10,341 --> 02:24:12,910
THE PARKING RATES TO ENSURE THAT

4051
02:24:12,910 --> 02:24:13,678
THE NEIGHBORS AND THE FOLKS 

4052
02:24:13,678 --> 02:24:15,113
TRYING TO GO TO THE RESTAURANTS 

4053
02:24:15,113 --> 02:24:16,647
HAVE A PLACE TO PARK. WE'VE WE 

4054
02:24:16,647 --> 02:24:20,585
SEE THAT PARKING PAID PARKING IS

4055
02:24:20,585 --> 02:24:23,054
AN EFFECTIVE TOOL AT INCREASING 

4056
02:24:23,054 --> 02:24:23,521
THE TURNOVER IN THAT 

4057
02:24:23,521 --> 02:24:24,422
NEIGHBORHOOD. WE SAW IT EVEN IN 

4058
02:24:24,422 --> 02:24:25,623
BALLARD AROUND BALLARD COMMONS 

4059
02:24:25,623 --> 02:24:26,357
PARK. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO 

4060
02:24:26,357 --> 02:24:28,192
BE A HORRIBLE IDEA TO PUT PAID 

4061
02:24:28,192 --> 02:24:28,893
PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE

4062
02:24:28,893 --> 02:24:30,995
PARK, BECAUSE THERE'S A BUNCH OF

4063
02:24:30,995 --> 02:24:32,296
RESIDENTS AROUND THERE, AND IN 

4064
02:24:32,296 --> 02:24:34,465
FACT, IT'S MADE THE PARK'S 

4065
02:24:34,465 --> 02:24:35,033
SIGHTLINES MUCH BETTER. WE 

4066
02:24:35,033 --> 02:24:36,601
DON'T HAVE PEOPLE PARKED THERE 

4067
02:24:36,601 --> 02:24:42,173
FOR SEVEN DAYS IN A ROW AND 

4068
02:24:42,173 --> 02:24:43,441
PARKING EVERYWHERE I CAN. 

4069
02:24:43,441 --> 02:24:44,876
LOOKING AROUND THIS ROOM, I CAN 

4070
02:24:44,876 --> 02:24:47,612
TELL EVERYONE LOVES GETTING A 

4071
02:24:47,612 --> 02:24:50,782
PARKING TICKET. SO YOU KNOW, 

4072
02:24:50,782 --> 02:24:52,417
THAT'S WHY I SAY PARKING 

4073
02:24:52,417 --> 02:24:54,218
ENFORCEMENT HAS THE HARDEST. AND

4074
02:24:54,218 --> 02:24:55,486
OUR SDCI INSPECTORS HAVE SOME OF

4075
02:24:55,486 --> 02:24:57,655
THE HARDEST JOBS. I GUESS THE 

4076
02:24:57,655 --> 02:24:58,990
NEWS DOESN'T EVEN THINK PARKING

4077
02:24:58,990 --> 02:25:00,324
ENFORCEMENT. YOU KNOW, I SEE 

4078
02:25:00,324 --> 02:25:03,294
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. ALL THAT 

4079
02:25:03,294 --> 02:25:06,764
TO SAY IS WHEN I SAW POLICE 

4080
02:25:06,764 --> 02:25:11,302
RECRUITMENT START TO TAKE OFF, 

4081
02:25:11,302 --> 02:25:13,071
IT WASN'T BECAUSE THE MAYOR'S 

4082
02:25:13,071 --> 02:25:15,273
OFFICE HAD CHANGED. IT WASN'T 

4083
02:25:15,273 --> 02:25:16,908
BECAUSE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS HAD 

4084
02:25:16,908 --> 02:25:18,409
CHANGED. IT WASN'T BECAUSE WE 

4085
02:25:18,409 --> 02:25:20,645
HAD GIVEN THEM HIRING BONUSES OR

4086
02:25:20,645 --> 02:25:22,947
LATERAL BONUSES OR MOVING 

4087
02:25:22,947 --> 02:25:24,549
BONUSES. I SAW RECRUITMENT START

4088
02:25:24,549 --> 02:25:26,684
TO TAKE OFF ONCE WE HAD MADE 

4089
02:25:26,684 --> 02:25:28,252
CONTRACT CHANGES TO TAKE THEM 

4090
02:25:28,252 --> 02:25:30,555
FROM THE 20th BEST PAID 

4091
02:25:30,555 --> 02:25:32,423
DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE TO THE 

4092
02:25:32,423 --> 02:25:33,658
FIRST BEST PAID DEPARTMENT IN 

4093
02:25:33,658 --> 02:25:35,460
THE STATE. THAT'S WHEN 

4094
02:25:35,460 --> 02:25:37,528
RECRUITMENT STARTED TAKING OFF. 

4095
02:25:37,528 --> 02:25:39,397
AND SO I'M CHALLENGED RIGHT NOW

4096
02:25:39,397 --> 02:25:41,399
BY WE'VE HAD THESE UNFILLED 

4097
02:25:41,399 --> 02:25:41,999
POSITIONS, WE'VE BEEN GOING 

4098
02:25:41,999 --> 02:25:44,001
THROUGH BARGAINING WITH THE 

4099
02:25:44,001 --> 02:25:47,038
POLICE OFFICERS GUILD TO PAY 

4100
02:25:47,038 --> 02:25:50,241
THEM WHAT THEIR WORK IS WORTH, 

4101
02:25:50,241 --> 02:25:52,643
BECAUSE THEY DO INCREDIBLY HARD 

4102
02:25:52,643 --> 02:25:55,012
WORK. I'VE FOUND PARKING 

4103
02:25:55,012 --> 02:25:56,247
ENFORCEMENT FOLKS EATING THEIR 

4104
02:25:56,247 --> 02:25:59,717
LUNCH IN THEIR SMALL LITTLE I 

4105
02:25:59,717 --> 02:26:03,955
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRICYCLE 

4106
02:26:03,955 --> 02:26:05,790
PATROL VEHICLE. I MEAN, LIKE 

4107
02:26:05,790 --> 02:26:06,991
THESE FOLKS DO SOME OF THE 

4108
02:26:06,991 --> 02:26:12,063
HARDEST WORK AND. WE JUST PASSED

4109
02:26:12,063 --> 02:26:14,365
THEIR CONTRACT. AND SO MY 

4110
02:26:14,365 --> 02:26:16,033
ASSUMPTION HERE FROM PAST 

4111
02:26:16,033 --> 02:26:17,535
EXPERIENCE IS THAT WE WILL 

4112
02:26:17,535 --> 02:26:21,172
FINALLY SEE AN INCREASE IN 

4113
02:26:21,172 --> 02:26:23,508
PARKING ENFORCEMENT. APPLICANTS 

4114
02:26:23,508 --> 02:26:26,177
CAN SOMEBODY FROM THE TABLE HELP

4115
02:26:26,177 --> 02:26:27,178
ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE 

4116
02:26:27,178 --> 02:26:29,013
REDUCING? I MEAN, AND I KNOW 

4117
02:26:29,013 --> 02:26:30,848
DIRECTOR PANUCCI, YOU'VE BEEN 

4118
02:26:30,848 --> 02:26:32,250
YOU'VE BEEN SHARING THE LINE. IT

4119
02:26:32,250 --> 02:26:33,317
IS IT'S NOT FISCALLY WITHIN OUR

4120
02:26:33,317 --> 02:26:34,752
REALM. AND IF THAT'S THE ANSWER,

4121
02:26:34,752 --> 02:26:38,923
THAT'S FINE, BUT WHY ARE WE 

4122
02:26:38,923 --> 02:26:40,224
REDUCING THESE POSITIONS JUST AS

4123
02:26:40,224 --> 02:26:40,992
WE ARE PASSING A CONTRACT IN 

4124
02:26:40,992 --> 02:26:44,962
ORDER TO RECRUIT THEM? 

4125
02:26:44,962 --> 02:26:45,897
-- I MEAN, YOU'LL GET SICK OF 

4126
02:26:45,897 --> 02:26:46,864
ME SAYING THE SAME THING SO I 

4127
02:26:46,864 --> 02:26:48,032
WON'T REPEAT THE SAME THING 

4128
02:26:48,032 --> 02:26:49,500
I'VE BEEN SAYING, BUT IT IS 

4129
02:26:49,500 --> 02:26:51,769
ABOUT HAVING TO MAKE CHOICES IN 

4130
02:26:51,769 --> 02:26:53,271
A CONSTRAINED RESOURCE 

4131
02:26:53,271 --> 02:26:54,572
ENVIRONMENT, AND THERE ARE 

4132
02:26:54,572 --> 02:26:55,473
SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN EIGHT 

4133
02:26:55,473 --> 02:26:57,975
VACANT POSITIONS, SO WE ARE NOT 

4134
02:26:57,975 --> 02:26:59,510
ELIMINATING THE FUNDING FOR ALL 

4135
02:26:59,510 --> 02:27:00,945
OF THE VACANCIES. AND WE HOPE 

4136
02:27:00,945 --> 02:27:02,780
THAT THIS HELPS. BUT I WILL ALSO

4137
02:27:02,780 --> 02:27:04,482
KNOW AS YOU OR JUST HIGHLIGHT 

4138
02:27:04,482 --> 02:27:06,250
WHAT YOU SAID, WHICH IS THESE 

4139
02:27:06,250 --> 02:27:07,485
ARE VERY DIFFICULT JOBS. AND 

4140
02:27:07,485 --> 02:27:08,553
EVEN WITH A PAY INCREASE, THEY 

4141
02:27:08,553 --> 02:27:10,688
WILL BE DIFFICULT JOBS. SO WE 

4142
02:27:10,688 --> 02:27:13,724
WILL SEE HOW THE THE CHANGING 

4143
02:27:13,724 --> 02:27:15,359
CONTRACT CHANGES, RETENTION AND 

4144
02:27:15,359 --> 02:27:16,928
RECRUITMENT. BUT WHAT I HAVE 

4145
02:27:16,928 --> 02:27:17,762
HEARD FROM THE DEPARTMENT OVER 

4146
02:27:17,762 --> 02:27:18,796
THE LAST SIX MONTHS, BECAUSE WE 

4147
02:27:18,796 --> 02:27:21,632
MEET AT LEAST MONTHLY, IT'S ONE

4148
02:27:21,632 --> 02:27:22,600
OF THEIR FAVORITE MEETINGS. I'M

4149
02:27:22,600 --> 02:27:25,803
CERTAIN IS THAT EVEN AS THEY 

4150
02:27:25,803 --> 02:27:28,406
BRING PEOPLE IN, IT IS HARD TO 

4151
02:27:28,406 --> 02:27:29,507
KEEP THE POSITIONS FILLED. SO 

4152
02:27:29,507 --> 02:27:30,474
THERE IS HIGH TURNOVER. SO WE'LL

4153
02:27:30,474 --> 02:27:33,611
WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THIS. BUT 

4154
02:27:33,611 --> 02:27:35,112
THIS IS REALLY A, A DECISION 

4155
02:27:35,112 --> 02:27:37,582
THAT IS BASED ON AVAILABLE 

4156
02:27:37,582 --> 02:27:39,116
RESOURCES AND LEAVING. STILL, I 

4157
02:27:39,116 --> 02:27:40,751
THINK, YOU KNOW, 9 TO 10 

4158
02:27:40,751 --> 02:27:42,086
VACANCIES. 

4159
02:27:42,086 --> 02:27:44,055
-- THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO MOVE

4160
02:27:44,055 --> 02:27:45,289
ON TO THE AUTO RECORDS UNIT. AND

4161
02:27:45,289 --> 02:27:46,757
BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP TALKING 

4162
02:27:46,757 --> 02:27:48,292
ABOUT PARKING ENFORCEMENT AS 

4163
02:27:48,292 --> 02:27:51,362
WELL. IF I UNDERSTAND THE 

4164
02:27:51,362 --> 02:27:52,930
CONVERSATION FROM SOME TIME AGO 

4165
02:27:52,930 --> 02:27:55,499
DURING THIS COMMITTEE, IS THAT 

4166
02:27:55,499 --> 02:27:57,535
THESE ARE THE AUTO RECORDS UNIT,

4167
02:27:57,535 --> 02:27:59,036
ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE FOLLOWING

4168
02:27:59,036 --> 02:28:02,440
UP ON STOLEN VEHICLES? ARE THEY 

4169
02:28:02,440 --> 02:28:05,142
ALSO DOING JUNK VEHICLE 

4170
02:28:05,142 --> 02:28:07,578
AFFIDAVITS? ARE THEY ENGAGED IN 

4171
02:28:07,578 --> 02:28:08,246
ENFORCING OUR JUNK VEHICLE CODE 

4172
02:28:08,246 --> 02:28:15,987
IN ANY SENSE OR FORM? 

4173
02:28:15,987 --> 02:28:17,088
-- I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE 

4174
02:28:17,088 --> 02:28:17,888
SPECIFICITY TO ANSWER THAT 

4175
02:28:17,888 --> 02:28:19,957
QUESTION ON THE FLY. 

4176
02:28:19,957 --> 02:28:22,627
-- EITHER. THAT WAS A POSITION 

4177
02:28:22,627 --> 02:28:25,129
THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD UNTIL

4178
02:28:25,129 --> 02:28:26,631
THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE 

4179
02:28:26,631 --> 02:28:26,864
BUDGET. 

4180
02:28:26,864 --> 02:28:28,699
-- NO PROBLEM. DON'T MIND ME. 

4181
02:28:28,699 --> 02:28:29,867
I'VE JUST GOTTEN INTO THE WEEDS

4182
02:28:29,867 --> 02:28:33,604
OF OUR JUNK VEHICLE CODE AND ALL

4183
02:28:33,604 --> 02:28:35,573
OF THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE A SMALL

4184
02:28:35,573 --> 02:28:37,241
NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS HOARDING 

4185
02:28:37,241 --> 02:28:38,643
VEHICLES ON OUR CITY STREETS. 

4186
02:28:38,643 --> 02:28:41,712
YOU'LL SEE THEM WITH PALLETS, 

4187
02:28:41,712 --> 02:28:44,415
THE FLATBEDS WITH THE THREE FLAT

4188
02:28:44,415 --> 02:28:45,583
TIRES AND THE AND RV'S FULL OF 

4189
02:28:45,583 --> 02:28:48,853
PALLETS. I MEAN THIS WHEN I'M 

4190
02:28:48,853 --> 02:28:50,588
GETTING TO THIS WORK OF SAYING 

4191
02:28:50,588 --> 02:28:52,356
THAT PEOPLE ARE HOARDING THEIR 

4192
02:28:52,356 --> 02:28:52,924
PERSONAL BELONGINGS ON OUR 

4193
02:28:52,924 --> 02:28:53,624
STREETS, THIS IS WHAT I'M 

4194
02:28:53,624 --> 02:28:56,093
TALKING ABOUT. AND SO WHAT I'M 

4195
02:28:56,093 --> 02:28:57,862
WORRIED TO. SO I'D LIKE MORE 

4196
02:28:57,862 --> 02:28:59,697
INFORMATION ABOUT THIS UNIT AND 

4197
02:28:59,697 --> 02:29:01,565
SPECIFICALLY HOW THEY FORMED. 

4198
02:29:01,565 --> 02:29:06,671
BUT MY WORRY HERE IS THAT WE ARE

4199
02:29:06,671 --> 02:29:08,739
REDUCING PARKING ENFORCEMENT 

4200
02:29:08,739 --> 02:29:09,874
POSITIONS. AND MY WORRY IS THAT 

4201
02:29:09,874 --> 02:29:12,677
WE ARE REDUCING THIS RECORDS 

4202
02:29:12,677 --> 02:29:15,546
UNIT THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY 

4203
02:29:15,546 --> 02:29:18,282
UNDERCUT THE WORK THAT WE ARE 

4204
02:29:18,282 --> 02:29:19,450
ENDEAVORING TO DO TO TAKE 

4205
02:29:19,450 --> 02:29:23,287
PRIVATE PROPERTY. THAT IS 

4206
02:29:23,287 --> 02:29:23,888
INAPPROPRIATELY AND ILLEGALLY 

4207
02:29:23,888 --> 02:29:25,957
STORED ON PUBLIC PROPERTY OFF OF

4208
02:29:25,957 --> 02:29:29,994
OUR STREETS 

4209
02:29:29,994 --> 02:29:30,995
-- THANK YOU. WE'LL GET BACK TO

4210
02:29:30,995 --> 02:29:31,195
YOU. 

4211
02:29:31,195 --> 02:29:32,129
-- LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING 

4212
02:29:32,129 --> 02:29:33,197
BACK TO YOU. MY COLLEAGUES HAVE 

4213
02:29:33,197 --> 02:29:34,265
TOUCHED ON ALL OF THE OTHER 

4214
02:29:34,265 --> 02:29:35,399
THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO TALK 

4215
02:29:35,399 --> 02:29:36,200
ABOUT, BUT I WANT TO COME BACK 

4216
02:29:36,200 --> 02:29:37,935
TO WHAT COUNCIL PRESIDENT WAS 

4217
02:29:37,935 --> 02:29:39,603
SAYING. SHE WAS RUNNING DOWN THE

4218
02:29:39,603 --> 02:29:41,505
NUMBERS. SHE WAS RUNNING THROUGH

4219
02:29:41,505 --> 02:29:44,909
THE STORIES AND I WANT TO BRING 

4220
02:29:44,909 --> 02:29:46,577
US BACK TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 

4221
02:29:46,577 --> 02:29:48,212
WE'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF 

4222
02:29:48,212 --> 02:29:50,081
THE SEATTLE OF THE CITY OF 

4223
02:29:50,081 --> 02:29:51,015
SEATTLE. IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE 

4224
02:29:51,015 --> 02:29:53,484
JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SEVEN 

4225
02:29:53,484 --> 02:29:55,519
DISTRICTS AND THE SEVEN HILLS OF

4226
02:29:55,519 --> 02:29:57,188
OUR CITY. IT SOMETIMES FEELS 

4227
02:29:57,188 --> 02:30:00,024
LIKE WE ARE JUST FOCUSED 

4228
02:30:00,024 --> 02:30:01,692
BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE BORDERS 

4229
02:30:01,692 --> 02:30:06,630
OF OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA

4230
02:30:06,630 --> 02:30:08,466
AND I ATTENDED A ASSOCIATION OF 

4231
02:30:08,466 --> 02:30:10,634
WASHINGTON CITIES BOARD OF 

4232
02:30:10,634 --> 02:30:11,469
DIRECTORS MEETING YESTERDAY. I 

4233
02:30:11,469 --> 02:30:12,703
SHOWED UP VERY LATE, BUT I STILL

4234
02:30:12,703 --> 02:30:15,873
SHOWED UP AND I WAS REMINDED 

4235
02:30:15,873 --> 02:30:19,143
THAT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN 

4236
02:30:19,143 --> 02:30:19,777
LEAVENWORTH AND WENATCHEE, THE 

4237
02:30:19,777 --> 02:30:20,745
NEWS CAMERAS THAT ARE HERE 

4238
02:30:20,745 --> 02:30:24,115
TODAY, ARE THEIR LOCAL NEWS AS 

4239
02:30:24,115 --> 02:30:25,282
WELL. OUT OF THE BLUE, I GOT A 

4240
02:30:25,282 --> 02:30:26,350
NOTE FROM SOMEBODY THAT I WENT 

4241
02:30:26,350 --> 02:30:27,318
TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH THAT LIVES 

4242
02:30:27,318 --> 02:30:30,955
IN NORTHERN SNOHOMISH COUNTY. SO

4243
02:30:30,955 --> 02:30:33,257
CLOSER TO SKAGIT THAN TO THAN TO

4244
02:30:33,257 --> 02:30:33,858
KING, WHO SHARED WITH ME THAT 

4245
02:30:33,858 --> 02:30:35,826
THEIR KID, ONE OF THEIR KID'S 

4246
02:30:35,826 --> 02:30:37,194
FRIENDS, WAS SHOT AND KILLED 

4247
02:30:37,194 --> 02:30:40,097
HERE IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE. AND

4248
02:30:40,097 --> 02:30:40,965
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IMPACT 

4249
02:30:40,965 --> 02:30:45,903
THAT HAD ON THEIR LIFE. AND SO I

4250
02:30:45,903 --> 02:30:48,172
JUST SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE 

4251
02:30:48,172 --> 02:30:49,073
TABLE, WITH THE FOLKS IN 

4252
02:30:49,073 --> 02:30:51,342
CHAMBERS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC 

4253
02:30:51,342 --> 02:30:52,410
THAT WHAT WE DO HERE IN THE CITY

4254
02:30:52,410 --> 02:30:56,247
OF SEATTLE IS NOT JUST ABOUT US.

4255
02:30:56,247 --> 02:31:00,050
IT HAS REGIONAL AND STATEWIDE 

4256
02:31:00,050 --> 02:31:01,485
IMPACTS. AND IT'S OUR JOB TO 

4257
02:31:01,485 --> 02:31:03,354
PROTECT OUR CITY, PROTECT OUR 

4258
02:31:03,354 --> 02:31:05,022
STATE, PROTECT THE PEOPLE HERE, 

4259
02:31:05,022 --> 02:31:06,057
BECAUSE THE DECISIONS THAT WE 

4260
02:31:06,057 --> 02:31:08,859
MAKE IN THESE CHAMBERS RIPPLE 

4261
02:31:08,859 --> 02:31:12,396
MUCH FARTHER THAN OUR CITY 

4262
02:31:12,396 --> 02:31:13,030
BOUNDARIES. ANYTHING ELSE FROM 

4263
02:31:13,030 --> 02:31:14,198
THE COMMITTEE TABLE? AND THEN 

4264
02:31:14,198 --> 02:31:17,001
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO. I WAS 

4265
02:31:17,001 --> 02:31:20,004
ABOUT TO CALL YOU CAPTAIN 

4266
02:31:20,004 --> 02:31:20,638
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE FOR FINAL 

4267
02:31:20,638 --> 02:31:21,672
REMARKS, BUT ANYTHING ELSE FROM 

4268
02:31:21,672 --> 02:31:26,410
THE TABLE SEEING NONE, 

4269
02:31:26,410 --> 02:31:27,011
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE FLOOR IS 

4270
02:31:27,011 --> 02:31:28,579
YOURS. TAKE US HOME. 

4271
02:31:28,579 --> 02:31:30,648
-- THANK YOU. CHAIR. JUST I JUST

4272
02:31:30,648 --> 02:31:31,782
HAVE TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I 

4273
02:31:31,782 --> 02:31:34,385
DIDN'T SPEAK TO THIS. THE 

4274
02:31:34,385 --> 02:31:36,887
AUTOMATIC TRAFFIC CAMERAS 

4275
02:31:36,887 --> 02:31:38,088
COLLEAGUES, YOU SHOULD EVERYBODY

4276
02:31:38,088 --> 02:31:39,690
SHOULD KNOW THAT I GOT 

4277
02:31:39,690 --> 02:31:41,625
INTRODUCED TO CITY BUDGETING 

4278
02:31:41,625 --> 02:31:43,828
FROM THEN CENTRAL STAFF. DEPUTY 

4279
02:31:43,828 --> 02:31:46,030
ALY PENNUCCI AND AND FOR THE 

4280
02:31:46,030 --> 02:31:48,666
RECORD, I DEEPLY RESPECT HER IN 

4281
02:31:48,666 --> 02:31:49,767
TERMS OF WHAT SHE'S DOING ON 

4282
02:31:49,767 --> 02:31:50,868
THE BUDGET. OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT 

4283
02:31:50,868 --> 02:31:52,570
IN SYNC WITH THE MAYOR'S HARD 

4284
02:31:52,570 --> 02:31:54,772
CHOICES AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC 

4285
02:31:54,772 --> 02:31:56,173
SAFETY, BUT I DID LEARN AT THE 

4286
02:31:56,173 --> 02:31:57,108
FEET OF ALY PENNUCCI AS IT 

4287
02:31:57,108 --> 02:31:59,009
RELATES TO BUDGET AND ALSO THE 

4288
02:31:59,009 --> 02:32:00,511
STAKEHOLDER PIECE. SO THANK YOU 

4289
02:32:00,511 --> 02:32:02,947
FOR BRINGING AUTOMATIC TRAFFIC 

4290
02:32:02,947 --> 02:32:03,581
CAMERAS UP, BECAUSE I WASN'T 

4291
02:32:03,581 --> 02:32:04,682
GOING TO SPEAK TO IT. BUT 

4292
02:32:04,682 --> 02:32:07,418
HERE'S THE THING, AND THIS IS 

4293
02:32:07,418 --> 02:32:08,953
TYPICAL IN CITY GOVERNMENT, THE 

4294
02:32:08,953 --> 02:32:10,488
SPLASH IS, YOU KNOW, OH, WE'RE 

4295
02:32:10,488 --> 02:32:12,423
GOING TO INSTALL THESE CAMERAS, 

4296
02:32:12,423 --> 02:32:15,126
BUT YOU HAVE TO WORK THE ENTIRE 

4297
02:32:15,126 --> 02:32:16,994
SYSTEM. AND SO I ENGAGE IN THE 

4298
02:32:16,994 --> 02:32:18,529
ENTIRETY OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY 

4299
02:32:18,529 --> 02:32:19,663
SYSTEM. I HAVE NINE ENTITIES 

4300
02:32:19,663 --> 02:32:21,298
THAT REPORT TO MY COMMITTEE. I 

4301
02:32:21,298 --> 02:32:23,134
SPENT THE LAST TWO YEARS 

4302
02:32:23,134 --> 02:32:24,835
CLEANING UP OEMS EMERGENCY 

4303
02:32:24,835 --> 02:32:26,537
MANAGEMENT, BUDGET ISSUES AND 

4304
02:32:26,537 --> 02:32:29,106
GETTING THEM RIGHT SHIP SHAPE, 

4305
02:32:29,106 --> 02:32:30,674
IF YOU WILL, TO USE THE PARLANCE

4306
02:32:30,674 --> 02:32:33,811
OF THE DAY. AND BUT HERE WE GO 

4307
02:32:33,811 --> 02:32:37,281
WITH AUTOMATIC TRAFFIC CAMERAS. 

4308
02:32:37,281 --> 02:32:38,215
THIS IS ALL GREAT, BUT IF THE 

4309
02:32:38,215 --> 02:32:40,117
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL COURT IS NOT 

4310
02:32:40,117 --> 02:32:43,888
SET, THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM. AND

4311
02:32:43,888 --> 02:32:45,489
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A 1.2 

4312
02:32:45,489 --> 02:32:46,690
MILLION GENERAL FUND OVER TO 

4313
02:32:46,690 --> 02:32:49,560
THIS ATC. YOU KNOW, FOR CURRENT 

4314
02:32:49,560 --> 02:32:51,061
OPERATIONS. BUT I THINK IN THOSE

4315
02:32:51,061 --> 02:32:52,429
EARLY LESSONS THAT I GOT ON 

4316
02:32:52,429 --> 02:32:53,797
BUDGET, WE WOULD CALL THAT A 

4317
02:32:53,797 --> 02:32:55,766
GIMMICK. AND THERE'S A CHALLENGE

4318
02:32:55,766 --> 02:32:58,102
WITH THIS BECAUSE THIS IS 

4319
02:32:58,102 --> 02:32:59,403
VOLATILE. THIS IS KIND OF LIKE 

4320
02:32:59,403 --> 02:33:02,039
WITH, YOU KNOW, PERMITS AT SDCI 

4321
02:33:02,039 --> 02:33:02,940
BECAUSE USUALLY YOU HAVE A BIG 

4322
02:33:02,940 --> 02:33:04,575
SURGE OF FUNDS COMING IN FROM 

4323
02:33:04,575 --> 02:33:05,609
THESE CAMERAS, AND THEN PEOPLE 

4324
02:33:05,609 --> 02:33:06,911
ADJUST AND THEN THERE'S LESS. 

4325
02:33:06,911 --> 02:33:08,379
AND THIS COULD CREATE PROBLEMS 

4326
02:33:08,379 --> 02:33:09,847
FOR THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL COURT.

4327
02:33:09,847 --> 02:33:12,316
SO THIS IS A LESSON THAT WE HAVE

4328
02:33:12,316 --> 02:33:13,317
ISSUES LIKE THIS. WE HAVE TO 

4329
02:33:13,317 --> 02:33:15,319
WORK IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO 

4330
02:33:15,319 --> 02:33:16,620
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. 

4331
02:33:16,620 --> 02:33:19,323
ALSO, THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING

4332
02:33:19,323 --> 02:33:21,191
THE ROLE OF THE LABOR AGREEMENTS

4333
02:33:21,191 --> 02:33:22,860
IN TERMS OF RECRUITMENT AND 

4334
02:33:22,860 --> 02:33:24,762
RETENTION. ALTHOUGH I WILL START

4335
02:33:24,762 --> 02:33:26,630
AND I'LL ALWAYS SAY THIS, THE 

4336
02:33:26,630 --> 02:33:28,566
NUMBER ONE THING IS LEADERSHIP. 

4337
02:33:28,566 --> 02:33:30,100
AND I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL, 

4338
02:33:30,100 --> 02:33:31,669
FROM DAY ONE, AT LEAST FOR THOSE

4339
02:33:31,669 --> 02:33:33,237
I STARTED WORKING WITH ON 

4340
02:33:33,237 --> 02:33:34,872
JANUARY 1st, 2024, SHOWED 

4341
02:33:34,872 --> 02:33:36,907
LEADERSHIP AND ENGAGING WITH THE

4342
02:33:36,907 --> 02:33:38,609
POLICE OFFICERS ACROSS ALL 

4343
02:33:38,609 --> 02:33:40,177
PRECINCTS. THE ROLL CALLS AND 

4344
02:33:40,177 --> 02:33:42,346
ALL THE ABOVE. AND THAT REALLY 

4345
02:33:42,346 --> 02:33:43,714
STARTED TO SET THE STAGE OF 

4346
02:33:43,714 --> 02:33:45,182
WHICH OBVIOUSLY THE LABOR 

4347
02:33:45,182 --> 02:33:47,484
AGREEMENTS HAVE A HUGE PIECE IN.

4348
02:33:47,484 --> 02:33:50,821
OKAY, JUST TO GO, I JUST QUICKLY

4349
02:33:50,821 --> 02:33:52,189
I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M CENTERED.

4350
02:33:52,189 --> 02:33:53,991
I THINK WE'RE CENTERED BOTH ON 

4351
02:33:53,991 --> 02:33:55,859
OUR NEIGHBORS IN CRISIS, BUT 

4352
02:33:55,859 --> 02:33:57,595
ALSO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN 

4353
02:33:57,595 --> 02:33:58,696
CRISIS. AND FOR THOSE 

4354
02:33:58,696 --> 02:34:00,097
NEIGHBORHOODS IN CRISIS, WE DO 

4355
02:34:00,097 --> 02:34:02,032
NEED MORE OFFICERS. YOU KNOW, 

4356
02:34:02,032 --> 02:34:03,033
ONE OF THE THINGS I KEEP 

4357
02:34:03,033 --> 02:34:04,168
SPEAKING ABOUT IS THAT WE NEED 

4358
02:34:04,168 --> 02:34:05,169
TO REPLENISH THIS KIND OF POPPED

4359
02:34:05,169 --> 02:34:06,770
UP HERE AND THERE. OUR SPECIALTY

4360
02:34:06,770 --> 02:34:08,172
UNITS, THE GUN VIOLENCE 

4361
02:34:08,172 --> 02:34:10,407
REDUCTION UNIT, THE GANG UNIT, 

4362
02:34:10,407 --> 02:34:12,243
COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICERS. I 

4363
02:34:12,243 --> 02:34:14,445
USED TO WORK WITH THEM ALL THE 

4364
02:34:14,445 --> 02:34:15,679
TIME BACK IN MY COMMUNITY DAYS, 

4365
02:34:15,679 --> 02:34:17,781
AND THEY MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

4366
02:34:17,781 --> 02:34:19,883
DETECTIVES, WE HAVE TO FILL ALL 

4367
02:34:19,883 --> 02:34:20,851
THESE THESE UP. AND SO IT'S, 

4368
02:34:20,851 --> 02:34:24,221
IT'S, IT'S SO IMPORTANT. AND 

4369
02:34:24,221 --> 02:34:25,756
BUT I, AND I THINK ALL OF US 

4370
02:34:25,756 --> 02:34:26,857
AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS 

4371
02:34:26,857 --> 02:34:29,360
ONE TYPE OF APPROACH, THE 

4372
02:34:29,360 --> 02:34:30,694
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH. AND 

4373
02:34:30,694 --> 02:34:32,963
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING 

4374
02:34:32,963 --> 02:34:34,498
IN THIS COUNCIL AND IN THE 

4375
02:34:34,498 --> 02:34:36,934
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. WE'VE 

4376
02:34:36,934 --> 02:34:37,534
BEEN DOING THIS COMPREHENSIVE 

4377
02:34:37,534 --> 02:34:39,837
APPROACH AS IT RELATES TO GUN 

4378
02:34:39,837 --> 02:34:40,537
VIOLENCE. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT AS

4379
02:34:40,537 --> 02:34:42,139
IT RELATES TO PUBLIC DRUG USE 

4380
02:34:42,139 --> 02:34:43,007
AND POSSESSION. I WAS JUST ON 

4381
02:34:43,007 --> 02:34:44,208
THE PHONE THIS MORNING WITH LISA

4382
02:34:44,208 --> 02:34:46,610
DUGARD FROM PDA, YOU KNOW, 

4383
02:34:46,610 --> 02:34:48,012
WORKING THOSE ISSUES, WORKING 

4384
02:34:48,012 --> 02:34:48,879
THE ISSUES WITH KCJ HEALTH, YOU 

4385
02:34:48,879 --> 02:34:51,281
KNOW, ALL THOSE KINDS OF PIECES.

4386
02:34:51,281 --> 02:34:52,449
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE. I THINK 

4387
02:34:52,449 --> 02:34:54,585
CHIEF BARDEN WILL SPEAK TO THAT 

4388
02:34:54,585 --> 02:34:55,352
AND ALL THE ISSUES RELATED TO 

4389
02:34:55,352 --> 02:34:56,754
THAT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON 

4390
02:34:56,754 --> 02:34:59,456
THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE

4391
02:34:59,456 --> 02:35:01,358
IT'S ABOUT ADDRESSING THE SCENE

4392
02:35:01,358 --> 02:35:02,793
BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC

4393
02:35:02,793 --> 02:35:04,194
HEALTH, HOUSING AND HUMAN 

4394
02:35:04,194 --> 02:35:06,397
SERVICES. NOW, I SEE IN THE 

4395
02:35:06,397 --> 02:35:07,564
BRIEFINGS BOTH SIDES ARE 

4396
02:35:07,564 --> 02:35:09,199
BECOMING PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS

4397
02:35:09,199 --> 02:35:10,467
FINE UNLESS WE USE IT AS A MEANS

4398
02:35:10,467 --> 02:35:13,570
TO CUT TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY

4399
02:35:13,570 --> 02:35:15,306
OR NOT RESOURCE PROPERLY. 

4400
02:35:15,306 --> 02:35:17,374
TRADITIONAL PARTS OF PUBLIC 

4401
02:35:17,374 --> 02:35:18,909
SAFETY. COLLEAGUES, JUST TO THE 

4402
02:35:18,909 --> 02:35:21,211
OTHER CITY'S POINT, BOSTON 

4403
02:35:21,211 --> 02:35:23,080
COMES UP SIMILAR SIZE. WE SHARE 

4404
02:35:23,080 --> 02:35:24,214
I90, BUT I SHOULD ADD EAST COAST

4405
02:35:24,214 --> 02:35:26,550
WEST COAST POLICING IS DIFFERENT

4406
02:35:26,550 --> 02:35:28,986
IN TERMS OF STAFFING AND SO 

4407
02:35:28,986 --> 02:35:30,421
FORTH. AND LOOKING AT OTHER 

4408
02:35:30,421 --> 02:35:32,056
CITIES PORTLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 

4409
02:35:32,056 --> 02:35:33,624
DENVER, AND SOMETIMES DEPENDING 

4410
02:35:33,624 --> 02:35:34,725
ON THE TOPIC, VANCOUVER, BC IS 

4411
02:35:34,725 --> 02:35:36,460
LIKE OUR KIND OF NATURAL ONES 

4412
02:35:36,460 --> 02:35:37,861
WHEN IT COMES TO LABOR 

4413
02:35:37,861 --> 02:35:39,363
RELATIONS. IT'S THE WEST COAST 

4414
02:35:39,363 --> 02:35:41,332
SEVEN AS WE TALK ABOUT. BUT AT 

4415
02:35:41,332 --> 02:35:42,966
THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO 

4416
02:35:42,966 --> 02:35:45,202
LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE 

4417
02:35:45,202 --> 02:35:46,236
LOCALLY. AND, YOU KNOW, FROM A 

4418
02:35:46,236 --> 02:35:47,838
BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, THIS 

4419
02:35:47,838 --> 02:35:50,808
AGREEMENT HURTS FROM BUDGETING. 

4420
02:35:50,808 --> 02:35:53,043
JUST LIKE WHEN THE TRUMP 

4421
02:35:53,043 --> 02:35:54,912
ADMINISTRATION DOES DIFFERENT 

4422
02:35:54,912 --> 02:35:56,513
THINGS THAT IMPACT INFLATION, 

4423
02:35:56,513 --> 02:35:58,482
THAT HURTS FROM A BUDGET 

4424
02:35:58,482 --> 02:36:00,684
PERSPECTIVE. THIS AGREEMENT AND 

4425
02:36:00,684 --> 02:36:02,052
THE FEMA AGREEMENT HURT. IT'S 

4426
02:36:02,052 --> 02:36:04,722
NEEDED. I SUPPORT IT, BUT 

4427
02:36:04,722 --> 02:36:05,856
THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING THESE 

4428
02:36:05,856 --> 02:36:07,624
NUMBERS. SO THESE NUMBERS ARE 

4429
02:36:07,624 --> 02:36:09,560
USED DIFFERENT WAYS. CLEARLY THE

4430
02:36:09,560 --> 02:36:10,594
LABOR AGREEMENTS ARE ARE DRIVING

4431
02:36:10,594 --> 02:36:12,696
THOSE. AND I SAY THAT JUST IN A 

4432
02:36:12,696 --> 02:36:14,431
MATTER OF FACT WAY. BUT, YOU 

4433
02:36:14,431 --> 02:36:16,266
KNOW, WE WERE NOT SET UP FOR 

4434
02:36:16,266 --> 02:36:18,369
SUCCESS IN THOSE AGREEMENTS 

4435
02:36:18,369 --> 02:36:19,470
BECAUSE OF THE BAD DECISIONS AND

4436
02:36:19,470 --> 02:36:21,472
THE LEGACY OF DECISIONS MADE A 

4437
02:36:21,472 --> 02:36:24,808
HALF DECADE AGO. PLUS IN THIS 

4438
02:36:24,808 --> 02:36:27,678
CHAMBER, NOT INCLUDING MY 

4439
02:36:27,678 --> 02:36:28,712
COUNCIL PRESIDENT EMERITUS, OF 

4440
02:36:28,712 --> 02:36:30,347
COURSE. AND, AND I DO SUPPORT MY

4441
02:36:30,347 --> 02:36:33,150
COLLEAGUE, MY CHAIR HERE, TOO, 

4442
02:36:33,150 --> 02:36:34,284
BUT THEY HAD IMPACTS. AND WE'RE

4443
02:36:34,284 --> 02:36:35,986
LIVING WITH THOSE IMPACTS TODAY.

4444
02:36:35,986 --> 02:36:37,087
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE

4445
02:36:37,087 --> 02:36:39,490
AT AN INFLECTION POINT RIGHT 

4446
02:36:39,490 --> 02:36:40,457
HERE AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC 

4447
02:36:40,457 --> 02:36:42,326
SAFETY. AND BUDGET IS GROUND 

4448
02:36:42,326 --> 02:36:44,628
ZERO IN THIS. AND WE NEED TO BE 

4449
02:36:44,628 --> 02:36:46,697
LOOKING AT THIS VERY AND DEFTLY.

4450
02:36:46,697 --> 02:36:51,068
SO THANK YOU, COLLEAGUE CHIEF 

4451
02:36:51,068 --> 02:36:52,936
CHAIR STRAUSS, THE REST OF MY 

4452
02:36:52,936 --> 02:36:54,671
COLLEAGUES. BUT CHIEF SALES 

4453
02:36:54,671 --> 02:36:55,773
REALLY APPRECIATE. GREAT. YES. 

4454
02:36:55,773 --> 02:36:57,875
NO ANSWER TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 

4455
02:36:57,875 --> 02:36:58,976
LOVE IT. MR. EATON, WE'VE BEEN 

4456
02:36:58,976 --> 02:37:00,010
WORKING TOGETHER FOR A FEW 

4457
02:37:00,010 --> 02:37:02,546
YEARS. AGAIN, I LEARNED AT THE 

4458
02:37:02,546 --> 02:37:03,814
FEET OF NOW DIRECTOR PANUCCI, 

4459
02:37:03,814 --> 02:37:05,182
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR 

4460
02:37:05,182 --> 02:37:06,984
THIS. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY MR. 

4461
02:37:06,984 --> 02:37:08,352
WOODSON, WHO'S TAKEN ON THE 

4462
02:37:08,352 --> 02:37:10,187
REINS HERE AT CENTRAL STAFF 

4463
02:37:10,187 --> 02:37:12,289
COLLEAGUES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 

4464
02:37:12,289 --> 02:37:14,091
CONTINUED SUPPORT ON PUBLIC 

4465
02:37:14,091 --> 02:37:16,727
SAFETY ISSUES 

4466
02:37:16,727 --> 02:37:17,528
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

4467
02:37:17,528 --> 02:37:19,196
KETTLE. I'M GOING TO SHARE SOME

4468
02:37:19,196 --> 02:37:20,631
FACTS ABOUT BOSTON AND SEATTLE 

4469
02:37:20,631 --> 02:37:21,765
AND AN OPINION. FACTS. THE HAWKS

4470
02:37:21,765 --> 02:37:24,101
ARE BETTER THAN THE PATS SHOWN 

4471
02:37:24,101 --> 02:37:25,469
AT A COUPLE TIMES. IN MY 

4472
02:37:25,469 --> 02:37:26,737
OPINION, THAT CRAFT GUY'S OUT OF

4473
02:37:26,737 --> 02:37:28,572
HIS MIND THOUGH. LET'S KEEP 

4474
02:37:28,572 --> 02:37:29,606
WINNING. LET'S KEEP WINNING. 

4475
02:37:29,606 --> 02:37:34,444
LET'S GO HAWKS WITH THAT. THAT 

4476
02:37:34,444 --> 02:37:36,113
DOES COME TO THE END OF THE 

4477
02:37:36,113 --> 02:37:38,916
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT 

4478
02:37:38,916 --> 02:37:41,118
PRESENTATION. DURING OUR BUDGET 

4479
02:37:41,118 --> 02:37:43,187
PROCESS. HERE IT IS BEEN NEARLY 

4480
02:37:43,187 --> 02:37:46,089
THREE. IT'S BEEN 2.5 HOURS. 

4481
02:37:46,089 --> 02:37:47,524
THIS IS LONGER THAN A TYPICAL 

4482
02:37:47,524 --> 02:37:49,459
COMMITTEE MEETING. I REALLY 

4483
02:37:49,459 --> 02:37:51,161
APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND 

4484
02:37:51,161 --> 02:37:53,263
ATTENTION EVERYONE'S PAID HERE.

4485
02:37:53,263 --> 02:37:54,131
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, I WANT TO 

4486
02:37:54,131 --> 02:37:56,133
CHECK WITH YOU. WOULD YOU PREFER

4487
02:37:56,133 --> 02:37:58,902
A 1250 START? A 1:01 P.M. START?

4488
02:37:58,902 --> 02:38:01,338
DOES IT MATTER? 

4489
02:38:01,338 --> 02:38:01,738
-- GIVE ME FIRST. 

4490
02:38:01,738 --> 02:38:03,707
-- FANTASTIC WE'RE GOING TO 

4491
02:38:03,707 --> 02:38:05,008
WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AT 1 

4492
02:38:05,008 --> 02:38:07,044
P.M. BECAUSE IT'S NOON RIGHT 

4493
02:38:07,044 --> 02:38:08,445
NOW. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE 

4494
02:38:08,445 --> 02:38:10,280
LUNCH. WE'RE GOING TO. AND 

4495
02:38:10,280 --> 02:38:11,348
THANK YOU TO THE ENTIRE CARE 

4496
02:38:11,348 --> 02:38:13,484
DEPARTMENT THAT HAS BEEN HERE 

4497
02:38:13,484 --> 02:38:14,952
SINCE 9:30 A.M. WATCHING AND 

4498
02:38:14,952 --> 02:38:15,619
WAITING IN THE BACKGROUND, READY

4499
02:38:15,619 --> 02:38:17,788
TO GO RIGHT ON TIME. I 

4500
02:38:17,788 --> 02:38:19,056
APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. NOW 

4501
02:38:19,056 --> 02:38:20,457
YOU HAVE THE CONTEXT FOR THE 

4502
02:38:20,457 --> 02:38:22,559
NEXT PART OF THE CONVERSATION 

4503
02:38:22,559 --> 02:38:24,561
AND SO WE WILL START BACK UP AT 

4504
02:38:24,561 --> 02:38:28,098
AT 1 P.M. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE 

4505
02:38:28,098 --> 02:38:30,601
MAYBE A TEN MINUTE BREAK BETWEEN

4506
02:38:30,601 --> 02:38:32,603
CARE AND SEATTLE FIRE 

4507
02:38:32,603 --> 02:38:34,171
DEPARTMENT, AND THEN WE'LL BE 

4508
02:38:34,171 --> 02:38:35,239
DONE FOR THE DAY. I HAVE BEEN 

4509
02:38:35,239 --> 02:38:36,807
TIMING MYSELF. I'M UP TO 20 

4510
02:38:36,807 --> 02:38:38,308
MINUTES TODAY. THANK YOU 

4511
02:38:38,308 --> 02:38:40,077
COLLEAGUES, IF THERE'S NO 

4512
02:38:40,077 --> 02:38:41,545
OBJECTION, THE COMMITTEE WILL BE

4513
02:38:41,545 --> 02:38:44,748
ADJOURNED UNTIL 1 P.M.. HEARING 

4514
02:38:44,748 --> 02:38:46,516
NO OBJECTION, WE ARE ON 

