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RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. THE 

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AUGUST 3rd, 2026 MEETING OF THE 

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HOUSING RIGHTS AND CIVIL RIGHTS 

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COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. IT

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IS 2:02 P.M.. I'M DIONNE 

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CIVIL RIGHTS COMMITTEE. WILL THE

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COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE 

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ROLL? 

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-- COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

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HOLLINGSWORTH HERE. 

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COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ HERE. 

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COUNCILMEMBER RINCK HERE. VICE 

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CHAIR. LIN HERE. CHAIR FOSTER. 

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HERE. CHAIR. THERE ARE FIVE 

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MEMBERS PRESENT. 

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-- GREAT. IF THERE IS NO 

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OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE 

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ADOPTED. HEARING NO OBJECTION, 

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THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WE WILL 

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NOW OPEN THE HYBRID PUBLIC 

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COMMENT PERIOD. PUBLIC COMMENTS 

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SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS ON 

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TODAY'S AGENDA OR WITHIN THE 

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PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE CLERK.

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HOW MANY SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP 

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-- CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 17 

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SPEAKERS IN PERSON AND 719 

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THAN 30 PEOPLE. SO EACH SPEAKER 

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WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE. WE WILL 

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START WITH IN PERSON SPEAKERS. 

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FIRST CLERK CAN YOU PLEASE READ 

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THE PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS?

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-- THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS 

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UP TO 60 MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL 

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THEY ARE REGISTERED. WE WILL 

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BEGIN WITH IN-PERSON SPEAKERS 

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SPEAKERS. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A 

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CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT 

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OF THEIR TIME. SPEAKERS MICS 

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WILL BE MUTE IF THEY DO NOT END 

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THEIR COMMENTS WITHIN THE 

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ALLOTTED TIME TO ALLOW US TO 

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CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER. THE 

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OPEN, AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE

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SPEAKER IS JESSE SWISHER. SPEARS

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WILL BE FOLLOWED BY HOWARD GALE.

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-- HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK

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YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY 

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TO SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS JESSE

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SWISHER SPEARS, AND I'M THE 

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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT SEATTLE 

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HUMANE. WE ARE PART OF AN ANIMAL

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WELFARE COALITION IN SUPPORT OF 

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CB 121254, ESPECIALLY AS IT 

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RELATES TO THE PROHIBITION OF 

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SEATTLE HUMANE, 15% OF PET 

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ABSTRACT. THEY ARE SEPARATING 

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FEES ORDINANCE SO FEWER RENTERS 

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KEEPING A BELOVED PET. THANK 

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-- THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER 

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IS HOWARD GAIL, FOLLOWED BY 

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HANNAH ZIFF. 

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-- GOOD AFTERNOON. I'VE LIVED 

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WHICH LANDLORDS HAVE NOT 

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THIS NEW LEGISLATION THAT SDCI 

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ANYTHING FOR MANY, MANY DECADES.

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FALL OF 2023, THERE WAS A SLY 

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PAST TO CREATE A WORK GROUP FOR 

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RENTERS STANDARDS ENTITY, JUST 

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LIKE WE HAVE AN OFFICE OF LABOR 

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STANDARDS. SDCI UNDERMINED THAT.

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I'VE REQUESTED IN EMAILS TO ALL

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OF YOU, AND I DON'T SEE IT ON 

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THE AMENDMENTS, IS SOME WAY TO 

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AUDIT AND ACTUALLY TRACK WHAT IT

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IS MINIMAL LEGISLATION AS IT IS,

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BUT NOT PROVIDING SOME KIND OF 

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GUARDRAILS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S 

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ACTED ON IS REALLY DEVASTATING. 

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-- THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER 

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IS HANNAH ZIFF, FOLLOWED BY 

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KEVIN SCHILLING. 

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DOWNTOWN NOT BEING EMPTY. I 

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THINK THAT A CITY THRIVES WHEN 

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THERE'S A LOT OF ARTISTS 

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DOWNTOWN. AND I'M SAYING WE 

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ALSO NEED TO STIMULATE THE 

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ECONOMY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE 

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HERE. SO WHEN WE'RE MAKING THESE

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CHOICES, CAN WE PLEASE TRY TO 

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PROMOTE A THRIVING ARTIST 

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COMMUNITY DOWNTOWN? THANK YOU. 

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-- THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER 

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IS KEVIN SCHILLING, FOLLOWED BY 

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CARTER NELSON. 

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-- GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR FOSTER.

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MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, KEVIN 

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SCHILLING, DIRECTOR OF 

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PROVIDERS IN THE CITY OF 

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SEATTLE. WE SUPPORT TRANSPARENCY

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HOME BEFORE THEY SIGN A LEASE, 

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BUT THIS ORDINANCE GOES FAR 

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BEYOND JUST TRANSPARENCY. THE 

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BUT IT DOESN'T ELIMINATE THE 

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COSTS BEHIND THEM WHEN THEY WHEN

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RESIDENT WHO USES THE SERVICE, 

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THEY MOVE INTO BASE RENT FOR 

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EVERYONE. AND THE ENFORCEMENT 

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REGIME IS BUILT FOR CORPORATE 

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PORTFOLIOS, BUT IT LANDS ON 

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SMALL PROVIDERS. A NATIONAL 

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OPERATOR HAS A COMPLIANCE 

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DEPARTMENT FOR THAT. THE OWNER 

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NOT. THAT COULD BE SOMEONE PUT 

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OUT OF BUSINESS, AND OUR 

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MEMBERSHIP DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS 

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ACCOUNTING STAFF. WE ASK YOU TO 

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AMEND IT A DISCLOSURE STANDARD 

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INSTEAD OF A FEE BAN. SCALED 

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REQUIREMENTS FOR SMALL 

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PROVIDERS. A PUBLIC HEARING 

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BEFORE YOU ACT AND A CURING 

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PERIOD FOR HOUSING PROVIDERS TO 

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SOLVE PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY 

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BECOME LAWSUITS. WE'RE READY TO

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HELP WRITE THAT LANGUAGE. THANK 

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YOU VERY MUCH. 

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-- THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER 

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IS CARTER NELSON, FOLLOWED BY 

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CLIVE MAYWARD. 

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-- GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR FOSTER 

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AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, 

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CARTER NELSON, ON BEHALF OF THE 

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COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE 

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DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION, OR 

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CREDO WASHINGTON STATE, 

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REPRESENTING THOSE WHO DESIGN, 

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BUILD, FINANCE AND OPERATE 

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RENTAL HOUSING ACROSS SEATTLE 

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AND WASHINGTON STATE. CREDO 

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STRONGLY SUPPORTS TRANSPARENCY 

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AND ADEQUATE DISCLOSURE. RENTERS

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SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY'RE 

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SIGNING UP TO PAY, AND WE 

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SUPPORT REASONABLE POLICIES THAT

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ENSURE THOSE COSTS ARE 

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COMMUNICATED CLEARLY AND 

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UPFRONT. WE APPRECIATED THE 

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OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN 

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THE MAYOR'S STAKEHOLDER PROCESS.

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HOWEVER, THE FEEDBACK AND 

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RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY HOUSING 

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PROVIDERS ARE NOT REFLECTED IN 

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THE LEGISLATION BEFORE YOU 

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TODAY. OUR CONCERN IS NOT WITH 

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TRANSPARENCY. IT'S THAT THIS 

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PROPOSAL SENDS ANOTHER SIGNAL OF

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REGULATORY UNCERTAINTY AT A TIME

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WHEN SEATTLE DESPERATELY NEEDS 

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MORE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, NOT 

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LESS AFFORDABILITY WILL 

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ULTIMATELY BE SOLVED BY 

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INCREASING HOUSING SUPPLY. 

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RENTERS WILL BEAR THE COST WHEN 

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FEWER HOMES ARE LIKELY TO COME 

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ONLINE IN THE YEARS AHEAD. WE 

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URGE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE 

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ADDITIONAL TIME FOR STAKEHOLDER 

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ENGAGEMENT. WE CAN ACHIEVE 

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GREATER TRANSPARENCY FOR RENTERS

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WHILE ALSO MAINTAINING 

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PREDICTABILITY NECESSARY TO 

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ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT AND MUCH 

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NEEDED HOUSING. THANK YOU. THANK

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YOU. 

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-- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CLIVE 

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HAYWARD, FOLLOWED BY VIOLET 

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LAVERTY. 

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-- THANK YOU. AND JUST A 

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REMINDER, WHEN YOU HEAR THE 

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CHIME, YOU'VE GOT 10 SECONDS 

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LEFT AND WE'LL TRY TO BE MOVING

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THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY 

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TO THE TIME. THANKS EVERYONE. 

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-- MY NAME IS CLIVE HAYWARD. 

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I'M A MAGICIAN. I PERFORMED ON 

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THE SEATTLE WATERFRONT FOR 11 

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YEARS. THE CITY HAS PAINTED FIVE

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BLUE BOXES ON THE WATERFRONT AND

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CALLED THEM FREE SPEECH ZONES. 

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ALSO OUTSIDE THOSE BOXES, MY ACT

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IS A PERFORMANCE. IT'S A 

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TRESPASS. POLICE CALLED BAND FOR

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UP TO A YEAR. ARRESTED. IF I 

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COME BACK, THAT'S PRIOR 

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RESTRAINT ON PROTECTED 

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EXPRESSION IN A PUBLIC SPACE. 

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IT'S NOT JUST MAGICIANS, IT'S 

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BALLOON TWISTERS, LIVING 

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STATUES, MUSICIANS AND PAINTERS.

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THE CITY EXCLUDED A PAINTER FROM

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THE WATERFRONT ON THE FOURTH OF 

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JULY, WATERFRONT ARTISTS HAVE 

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RENT OR MORTGAGES AND BILLS AND 

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FAMILIES TO FEED. ENFORCEMENT IS

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ARBITRARY, DOESN'T SILENCE JUST

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ARTISTS. IT DESTABILIZES 

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HOUSEHOLDS. I'VE WRITTEN THE 

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MAYOR, THE CITY, THE SEATTLE 

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CENTER INSPECTOR GENERAL, THE 

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OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS. NO ONE 

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HAS ANSWERED. THE COMMITTEE HAS 

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CIVIL RIGHTS IN ITS NAME. WILL 

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YOU HAVE SOMEONE HELP? 

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-- AND YOU CAN ADD ADDITIONAL 

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COMMENTS THERE IN THE BOX. THANK

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YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE 

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FOLLOWED BY ALICE LOCKHART. 

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VIOLET, YOU'RE UP. 

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-- GOOD AFTERNOON, 

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COUNCILMEMBERS. DIONNE. FOSTER. 

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EDDIE. LIN. AND EVERYONE, THANK 

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YOU FOR HEARING ALL OF US. I 

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REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY FIRST. 

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MY NAME IS VIOLET LAVERTY AND, 

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I'M AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A 

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HOUSING JUSTICE, ALSO A 

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COMMUNITY ACTIVIST. FOR MANY 

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YEARS. I SPEAK FOR HUNDREDS OF 

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TENANTS RIGHT NOW. JUNK FEES IS 

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A BILL THAT REALLY WILL HELP 

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MANY PEOPLE. AND WE SUPPORT 

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SUPPORTS THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE

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COMING. THAT WE READ IS ONE AND 

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TWO, BUT WE URGE CITY COUNCIL 

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THAT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION 

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MANY YEARS THESE UNNECESSARY 

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FEES HAVE LED TO SOMETIMES 

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EVICTIONS AND MORE BARRIERS THAT

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TENANTS FACE EVERY DAY. AND I'M

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NOT JUST TALKING BECAUSE I'M A 

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RENTER, TOO. I'M TALKING ABOUT 

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THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME

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TO TOA TO ABOUT THESE JUNK FEES.

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SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

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-- THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER 

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IS ALICE LOCKHART, FOLLOWED BY 

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TANISHA THOMAS BIRD. AND THEN 

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OUR THIRD SPEAKER WILL BE 

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MICHELLE THOMAS. 

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-- GOOD AFTERNOON. COMMITTEE 

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MEMBERS., I'M ALICE LOCKHART 

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WITH 350 SEATTLE EDDIE. I 

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COULDN'T BE HERE. SENT ME., WE 

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WOULD BOTH LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL

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SO MUCH FOR WORKING WITH 

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COMMUNITY. RECENTLY. THIS HAS 

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BEEN A GREAT COUNCIL. RECENTLY 

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WE APPRECIATED THE, THE COME ON,

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COME ON. DATA CENTER MORATORIUM.

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AND NOW YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS,

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WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT., 350 

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SEATTLE HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF 

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STATE HOUSE STAY HEALTHY 

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COALITION SINCE ITS INCEPTION., 

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BECAUSE WE MEET OUR CLIMATE 

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GOALS WHEN WE CAN PROVIDE SAFE 

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AND STABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING 

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THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE A LONG 

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COMMUTE. THIS ISN'T ABOUT 

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TRANSPARENCY. THIS IS ABOUT 

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BASIC FAIRNESS. AND YOU ALL ARE 

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WORKING TO PUT BASIC FAIRNESS 

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INTO THE, AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE 

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LESS POWERFUL AND THE MORE 

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POWERFUL. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

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-- OUR NEXT SPEAKER, TANISHA 

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THOMAS, FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE 

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THOMAS AND THEN OWEN KNIGHT. 

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-- HELLO, MY NAME IS TANISHA 

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THOMPSON BIRD, AND I'M CAMPAIGN

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DIRECTOR AT GOT GREEN. I'M HERE

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TODAY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 

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STRENGTHENING AND ENFORCING 

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RENTER PROTECTIONS AND BANNING 

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JUNK FEES WITHOUT WATERED DOWN 

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AMENDMENTS. I HAVE BEEN WORKING 

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WITH TENANTS LIVING IN MARINA 

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VISTA IN DISTRICT TWO, FOR A 

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VERY LONG TIME., AND ONE OF THE 

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MANY, AS ONE OF THE MANY PUBLIC 

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HOUSING SITES THAT ARE OWNED AND

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OPERATED BY SEATTLE HOUSING 

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AUTHORITY, THE STORIES THAT I 

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HAVE HEARD FROM MARINA VISTA AND

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OTHER TENANTS, ABOUT LIVING IN 

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DISREPAIR AND NEGLECT ARE 

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EXTREMELY CONCERNING. TENANTS 

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ARE LIVING IN UNHEALTHY 

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CONDITIONS, LIVING WITH BROKEN 

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APPLIANCES, MOLD LEAKS, FLOODS, 

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ELECTRICAL ISSUES, AND MORE 

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WAITING WEEKS, MONTHS AND EVEN 

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YEARS FOR REPAIRS TO GET DONE. 

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IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN 

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LEARNING MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE 

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CONDITIONS TENANTS ARE LIVING 

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IN, YOU CAN READ OUR REPORT ON 

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GOD GREENS WEBSITE. BECAUSE 

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TENANT PROTECTIONS ARE NOT 

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STRONG ENOUGH, IT HAS BEEN 

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CHALLENGING FOR TENANTS. 

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-- AND ADD ADDITIONAL COMMENTS 

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IN THE BOX THERE. 

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-- OKAY, IT'S CHALLENGING FOR 

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THEM TO HOLD SEPA ACCOUNTABLE. 

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-- MICHELLE THOMAS, THEN OWEN 

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KNIGHT, FOLLOWED BY. 

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-- HI, I'M MICHELLE THOMAS WITH

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THE WASHINGTON HOUSING ALLIANCE 

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HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE 

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BAN TO THE PROPOSED BAN ON JUNK 

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FEES, WE'RE HEARING FROM 

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RENTERS ACROSS THE CITY AND 

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ACROSS THE STATE ABOUT UNFAIR, 

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EXPENSIVE AND DECEPTIVE FEES 

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THAT THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING ON 

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TOP OF TODAY'S SKY HIGH RENT, 

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MANY TENANTS REPORT THAT FEES 

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ARE ADDED AFTER MOVE IN AND AT 

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LEAST RENEWAL, TRAPPING TENANTS 

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WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO MOVE INTO 

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SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD

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TO PAY, AND MERE TRANSPARENCY 

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CANNOT SOLVE. TENANTS REPORT SO 

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MANY FEES, INCLUDING FEES, TO 

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PAY THEIR RENT FEES TO COVER 

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UTILITIES AND COMMON AREAS, AND 

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THE MANAGEMENT OFFICES, 

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IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FEES AND MY

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FAVORITE FEES TO SUBMIT 

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MAINTENANCE REQUESTS OUT OF 

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STATE. THIRD PARTY COMPANIES ARE

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INCREASINGLY ENTERING INTO 

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CONTRACTS WITH LANDLORDS FOR 

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SHAM SERVICES THAT TENANTS PAY, 

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AND THAT LANDLORDS TAKE A CUT 

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OF. THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG 

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REASONS THAT JUNK FEES ARE ON 

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THE RISE NATIONWIDE. YOU HAVE AN

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OPPORTUNITY TO STOP THIS. PLEASE

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VOTE YES TODAY ON THIS CRITICAL 

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LEGISLATION. HOWEVER, AS OTHERS 

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HAVE SAID, WE BELIEVE THAT 

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AMENDMENTS THREE AND FOUR NEED A

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LITTLE BIT MORE WORK, IN FULL 

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COUNCIL TO ADDRESS SOME POSSIBLE

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MISINTERPRETATIONS. THANK YOU 

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-- ALL. NEXT SPEAKERS. OWEN 

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KNIGHT, FOLLOWED BY AND THEN 

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HEIDI D ANDRADE 

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-- THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR 

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BRINGING THIS PROPOSAL FORWARD. 

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I'M MY NAME IS OWEN KNIGHT. 

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I'M A RENTER IN DISTRICT FOUR.,

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I PAY ABOUT $100 EACH MONTH JUST

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IN JUNK FEES ON TOP OF MY RENT.,

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SO THAT'S ABOUT $1,200 A YEAR 

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JUST IN JUNK FEES. LIKE SETTING 

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ASIDE THE COST OF RENT., I 

431
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RECENTLY SIGNED MY LEASE AGAIN 

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AND PAID A $100 RENEWAL FEE, 

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WHICH IS A LITTLE GOOFY THERE. 

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SO I HOPE THAT THIS PROPOSAL 

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MOVES FORWARD SO THAT IF I DO 

436
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HAVE TO SIGN MY LEASE AGAIN, I 

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CAN SAVE $100. MUCH APPRECIATE 

438
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IF THE COUNCIL CAN DO THAT. I 

439
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ALSO WANT TO THANK 

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COUNCILMEMBERS, RINCK AND FOSTER

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FOR BRINGING FORWARD AMENDMENTS 

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ONE AND TWO. I THINK THOSE ARE 

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REALLY CONSTRUCTIVE AND HELP 

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STRENGTHEN THE BILL. I DID WANT 

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TO RAISE SOME CONCERNS IN 

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PARTICULAR ABOUT AMENDMENT 

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THREE. I THINK THE INTENTION TO 

448
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THAT AMENDMENT IS GOOD, RIGHT? 

449
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WE SHOULD TRY AND PROVIDE 

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FORGIVENESS AND GIVE SECOND 

451
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CHANCES. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT 

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THE EXISTING PROPOSAL, WITH ITS 

453
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FIRST TIME OFFENSE WAIVER, IS A 

454
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GOOD FIRST STEP THERE. AND I 

455
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THINK THIS PROPOSAL NEEDS SOME 

456
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MORE WORK. 

457
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-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR 

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NEXT SPEAKER IS FOLLOWED BY 

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HEIDI DE ANDRADE. 

460
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-- THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. 

461
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MY NAME IS AND I'M THE GENERAL 

462
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MANAGER FOR THE TRANSIT RIDERS 

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UNION. I'M ALSO HERE TODAY AS 

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THE CO-COORDINATOR OF THE STATE 

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HOUSE STAY HEALTHY COALITION, 

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WHICH IS A COALITION OF OVER 40 

467
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ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTING 

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THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF 

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TENANTS WHO NEED RELIEF. AND 

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THIS LEGISLATION HERE TODAY 

471
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PROVIDES RELIEF. IT DOESN'T 

472
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SIMPLY SAY, WE CAN TELL YOU HOW 

473
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MUCH YOU'RE WE'RE SCREWING YOU

474
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OVER. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO

475
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SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND SO I'M 

476
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HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE 

477
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THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF 

478
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COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE ASKING

479
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FOR YOU TO HELP US AVOID YET 

480
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ANOTHER YEAR OF RECORD EVICTIONS

481
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IN SEATTLE TO PASS THIS 

482
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LEGISLATION WITH AMENDMENTS ONE 

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AND TWO, AMENDMENTS THREE AND 

484
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FOUR ARE ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY 

485
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REALLY POWERFUL TOOLS FOR 

486
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TENANTS AND TENANT RIGHTS, AND 

487
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WE SUPPORT THOSE IN SPIRIT. 

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HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS 

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ABOUT THEM BEING POTENTIALLY 

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MISINTERPRETED AND MISUSED BY 

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LANDLORDS AND THEIR ATTORNEYS. 

492
00:15:28,727 --> 00:15:32,798
AND AS AN I REALLY HOPE THAT WE 

493
00:15:32,798 --> 00:15:33,432
CAN WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE 

494
00:15:33,432 --> 00:15:34,133
THAT THE SPIRIT OF WHAT YOU'RE 

495
00:15:34,133 --> 00:15:36,368
TRYING TO DO IS EFFECTUATED. 

496
00:15:36,368 --> 00:15:37,202
THANK YOU. 

497
00:15:37,202 --> 00:15:38,604
-- ALL RIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER IS 

498
00:15:38,604 --> 00:15:40,205
HEIDI DE ANDRADE, FOLLOWED BY 

499
00:15:40,205 --> 00:15:41,974
LEXI SALAS. 

500
00:15:41,974 --> 00:15:43,942
-- HI. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME.

501
00:15:43,942 --> 00:15:45,177
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. 

502
00:15:45,177 --> 00:15:48,213
MY NAME IS HEIDI DE ANDRADE. MY 

503
00:15:48,213 --> 00:15:49,348
BROTHERS, JAMIE FACKLER. SO IF 

504
00:15:49,348 --> 00:15:50,049
YOU NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT 

505
00:15:50,049 --> 00:15:50,983
THIS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO HIM. 

506
00:15:50,983 --> 00:15:53,585
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY SON, 

507
00:15:53,585 --> 00:15:55,120
MERCADO DE ANDRADE. HE IS NOT 

508
00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,857
HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE COMMITTED 

509
00:15:58,857 --> 00:16:00,626
SUICIDE IN JANUARY DUE TO BEING 

510
00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:01,627
EVICTED. HIS EVICTION WAS DUE TO

511
00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:03,028
A WORK INJURY WHERE L AND I DID 

512
00:16:03,028 --> 00:16:06,632
NOT PAY HIM IN A PROMPT ENOUGH 

513
00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:08,300
TIME. WHEN I WENT THROUGH HIS 

514
00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:09,468
THINGS, THE THE FEES THAT RUBS 

515
00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:13,572
WERE CHARGING HIM WERE $180 A 

516
00:16:13,572 --> 00:16:15,074
MONTH ON A $1,300, 600 SQUARE 

517
00:16:15,074 --> 00:16:16,742
FOOT APARTMENT. IT HAD STARTED 

518
00:16:16,742 --> 00:16:18,110
AT 50 WHEN HE FIRST WENT IN AND 

519
00:16:18,110 --> 00:16:22,214
WENT UP., THE STRESS OF NOT 

520
00:16:22,214 --> 00:16:24,616
BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN 

521
00:16:24,616 --> 00:16:28,320
THE CITY IS THE TEXT I GOT WHEN 

522
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,855
HE KILLED HIMSELF. SO I AM 

523
00:16:29,855 --> 00:16:31,123
HOPING THAT YOU PASS THIS. I 

524
00:16:31,123 --> 00:16:32,991
KNOW THAT I HAVEN'T READ IT ALL,

525
00:16:32,991 --> 00:16:36,995
THERE'S MORE TO IT, BUT THE 

526
00:16:36,995 --> 00:16:37,629
RUBS FEES ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE. 

527
00:16:37,629 --> 00:16:40,899
WE NEED TO HAVE MORE SUPPORT FOR

528
00:16:40,899 --> 00:16:42,668
THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. WE 

529
00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:43,936
DON'T HAVE IT. RENTING IN THE 

530
00:16:43,936 --> 00:16:46,271
CITY IS UNAFFORDABLE FOR MOST 

531
00:16:46,271 --> 00:16:50,009
PEOPLE. THANK YOU. 

532
00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:50,342
-- THANK YOU. 

533
00:16:50,342 --> 00:16:53,912
-- [APPLAUSE] 

534
00:16:53,912 --> 00:16:55,014
-- ALL RIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER IS 

535
00:16:55,014 --> 00:17:00,719
LEXI, FOLLOWED BY HOLLY WILLIS.,

536
00:17:00,719 --> 00:17:03,355
-- THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. 

537
00:17:03,355 --> 00:17:05,124
STORY. MY NAME IS LEXI SALAS. I 

538
00:17:05,124 --> 00:17:09,762
LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE, AND I'M

539
00:17:09,762 --> 00:17:11,196
HERE BECAUSE OUR CITY NEEDS TO 

540
00:17:11,196 --> 00:17:12,598
BAN JUNK FEES AND CREATE SYSTEMS

541
00:17:12,598 --> 00:17:14,233
WHERE RENTERS CAN TRULY SEEK 

542
00:17:14,233 --> 00:17:16,235
JUSTICE. WHEN OUR LANDLORDS 

543
00:17:16,235 --> 00:17:17,669
VIOLATE OUR PROTECTIONS. I LIKE 

544
00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:19,605
AMENDMENTS ONE AND TWO. I 

545
00:17:19,605 --> 00:17:20,239
APPRECIATE THE SPIRITS OF THREE 

546
00:17:20,239 --> 00:17:21,807
AND FOUR, BUT I THINK THEY NEED 

547
00:17:21,807 --> 00:17:25,944
MORE WORK., I HAVE SOUGHT 

548
00:17:25,944 --> 00:17:27,546
SUPPORT FROM BOTH SDCI AND THE 

549
00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:29,081
HEARING EXAMINER ABOUT EXISTING 

550
00:17:29,081 --> 00:17:29,715
VIOLATIONS, AND IT RESULTED IN 

551
00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:32,618
MY LANDLORD GETTING A SLAP ON 

552
00:17:32,618 --> 00:17:33,185
THE WRIST WHILE CONTINUING 

553
00:17:33,185 --> 00:17:35,387
VIOLATIONS. OUR CITY'S 

554
00:17:35,387 --> 00:17:37,122
AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IS LIFE OR 

555
00:17:37,122 --> 00:17:38,624
DEATH FOR RENTERS. AS YOU JUST 

556
00:17:38,624 --> 00:17:41,193
HEARD. AND WHILE LANDLORDS 

557
00:17:41,193 --> 00:17:43,328
EMPHASIZE THE COST OF BUSINESS, 

558
00:17:43,328 --> 00:17:45,898
US RENTERS EMPHASIZE THE COST OF

559
00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:48,934
LIFE. AND SO I ASK YOU TO STAND 

560
00:17:48,934 --> 00:17:49,568
WITH STRONG RENTER PROTECTIONS 

561
00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:52,271
AND ACCOUNTABILITY AGAINST 

562
00:17:52,271 --> 00:17:53,338
EXPLOITATION, AGAINST RENTERS., 

563
00:17:53,338 --> 00:17:57,976
IT LITERALLY SAVES LIVES. 

564
00:17:57,976 --> 00:17:59,645
-- OUR FINAL THREE IN-PERSON 

565
00:17:59,645 --> 00:18:00,646
SPEAKERS ARE HOLLY WILLIS, 

566
00:18:00,646 --> 00:18:02,481
FOLLOWED BY KATE RUBEN AND THEN 

567
00:18:02,481 --> 00:18:04,416
LYDIA RUBENSTEIN 

568
00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:05,617
-- GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMITTEE 

569
00:18:05,617 --> 00:18:07,152
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS HOLLY WILLIS

570
00:18:07,152 --> 00:18:09,455
AND I'M THE POLICY MANAGER AT 

571
00:18:09,455 --> 00:18:09,955
THE SEATTLE KING COUNTY 

572
00:18:09,955 --> 00:18:10,589
COALITION ON HOMELESSNESS. AND 

573
00:18:10,589 --> 00:18:12,291
I'M ALSO A RENTER AND PET OWNER

574
00:18:12,291 --> 00:18:15,627
IN DISTRICT FIVE. HERE IN 

575
00:18:15,627 --> 00:18:18,363
SUPPORT OF THE JUNK FEE 

576
00:18:18,363 --> 00:18:18,897
LEGISLATION SPONSORED BY 

577
00:18:18,897 --> 00:18:20,399
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. WE 

578
00:18:20,399 --> 00:18:22,101
APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF 

579
00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:23,368
AMENDMENTS PUT FORWARD AND ALSO 

580
00:18:23,368 --> 00:18:25,771
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF 

581
00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:26,405
THEM INADVERTENTLY LET LANDLORDS

582
00:18:26,405 --> 00:18:29,675
OFF THE HOOK WHEN THEY, WHEN FOR

583
00:18:29,675 --> 00:18:32,211
VIOLATIONS. WE ALSO APPRECIATE 

584
00:18:32,211 --> 00:18:34,346
YOUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT 

585
00:18:34,346 --> 00:18:34,880
TRANSPARENCY ALONE IS NOT 

586
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:35,981
SUFFICIENT TO SOLVE THIS 

587
00:18:35,981 --> 00:18:38,817
PROBLEM, AND THAT WE NEED TO 

588
00:18:38,817 --> 00:18:39,351
REGULATE FEES TO PROTECT 

589
00:18:39,351 --> 00:18:41,186
TENANTS. MANY PEOPLE 

590
00:18:41,186 --> 00:18:42,988
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND 

591
00:18:42,988 --> 00:18:44,890
POVERTY HAVE PETS. IT'S NOT 

592
00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:46,625
FAIR OR REASONABLE TO CHARGE 

593
00:18:46,625 --> 00:18:48,227
EXTRA RENT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE 

594
00:18:48,227 --> 00:18:50,028
HAS A PET IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD. 

595
00:18:50,028 --> 00:18:51,463
THAT MAKES IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE 

596
00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:53,432
TO AFFORD RENT AND FORCES PEOPLE

597
00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:55,100
TO SURRENDER THEIR PETS TO 

598
00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:56,835
SHELTER WHEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD 

599
00:18:56,835 --> 00:18:59,104
THE FEES. PLEASE VOTE YES TO BAN

600
00:18:59,104 --> 00:19:00,606
JUNK FEES AND BRING DOWN COSTS 

601
00:19:00,606 --> 00:19:03,442
FOR TENANTS. THANK YOU 

602
00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:04,676
-- NEXT SPEAKER IS KATE RUBIN, 

603
00:19:04,676 --> 00:19:05,744
FOLLOWED BY LYDIA RUBENSTEIN. 

604
00:19:05,744 --> 00:19:10,449
THEN WE'LL MOVE TO ONLINE 

605
00:19:10,449 --> 00:19:10,716
SPEAKERS. 

606
00:19:10,716 --> 00:19:13,986
-- MY NAME IS KATE RUBIN. I AM A

607
00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:16,522
RENTER LIVING IN DISTRICT TWO, 

608
00:19:16,522 --> 00:19:19,191
AND I SERVE AS CO-EXECUTIVE 

609
00:19:19,191 --> 00:19:20,726
DIRECTOR OF BE SEATTLE, 

610
00:19:20,726 --> 00:19:21,293
CO-COORDINATOR OF THE STATE 

611
00:19:21,293 --> 00:19:23,395
HOUSE HEALTHY COALITION AND 

612
00:19:23,395 --> 00:19:24,563
CO-CHAIR OF THE SEATTLE RENTERS 

613
00:19:24,563 --> 00:19:28,200
COMMISSION. THE COST OF RENT 

614
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:28,767
INCLUDES THE COST OF DOING 

615
00:19:28,767 --> 00:19:30,035
BUSINESS. LANDLORDS HAVE FULL 

616
00:19:30,035 --> 00:19:31,503
CONTROL OVER WHAT AMENITIES THEY

617
00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:32,437
INCLUDE IN THE BUILDING, AND 

618
00:19:32,437 --> 00:19:36,208
THEY SET THE RENT ACCORDINGLY. I

619
00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:36,808
URGE THE COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT 

620
00:19:36,808 --> 00:19:38,844
THE BILL TO BAN RENTAL JUNK FEES

621
00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:42,648
AND PASS AMENDMENTS ONE AND TWO.

622
00:19:42,648 --> 00:19:43,982
AND THEN THE COALITION WOULD 

623
00:19:43,982 --> 00:19:44,383
LOVE TO WORK WITH 

624
00:19:44,383 --> 00:19:47,119
COUNCILMEMBERS, FOSTER AND LIN 

625
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,820
ON AMENDMENTS THREE AND FOUR. WE

626
00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:49,488
RECOGNIZE THE INTENT OF THESE, 

627
00:19:49,488 --> 00:19:50,556
AND WE THINK THAT THEY ARE 

628
00:19:50,556 --> 00:19:51,890
REALLY POWERFUL. AND WE. AND WE 

629
00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:55,427
CAN MAKE THEM STRONG FOR RENTERS

630
00:19:55,427 --> 00:19:59,631
IN GENERAL., THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

631
00:19:59,631 --> 00:20:08,574
-- THANKS. LYDIA RUBENSTEIN 

632
00:20:08,807 --> 00:20:11,043
-- HELLO. MY NAME IS LYDIA 

633
00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:12,911
RUBENSTEIN. I'M A SEATTLE 

634
00:20:12,911 --> 00:20:13,879
RENTER IN DISTRICT THREE HERE AS

635
00:20:13,879 --> 00:20:15,681
A RENTER. AND ON BEHALF OF THE 

636
00:20:15,681 --> 00:20:18,450
TENANTS UNION OF WASHINGTON, IN 

637
00:20:18,450 --> 00:20:19,751
STRONG SUPPORT TO PASS THE BILL 

638
00:20:19,751 --> 00:20:21,386
TO BAN JUNK FEES. WE APPRECIATE 

639
00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:23,055
THE COUNCIL TAKING ON ACTION 

640
00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:25,390
TOWARDS REDUCING HIDDEN AND 

641
00:20:25,390 --> 00:20:27,159
UNNECESSARY HOUSING COSTS AND 

642
00:20:27,159 --> 00:20:28,460
HOLDING LANDLORDS ACCOUNTABLE BY

643
00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:29,861
SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED BAN WITH

644
00:20:29,861 --> 00:20:31,530
AMENDMENTS ONE AND TWO. AND I'LL

645
00:20:31,530 --> 00:20:32,898
ECHO WHAT A LOT OF OTHERS HAVE 

646
00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:34,399
SAID, AND I'M EXCITED TO WORK 

647
00:20:34,399 --> 00:20:36,668
WITH YOU TO ADJUST THREE AND 

648
00:20:36,668 --> 00:20:38,136
FOUR TO BETTER ALIGN WITH THE 

649
00:20:38,136 --> 00:20:39,771
SPIRIT., AS A TENANT EDUCATOR, I

650
00:20:39,771 --> 00:20:41,373
SPEAK TO THOUSANDS OF RENTERS 

651
00:20:41,373 --> 00:20:43,408
STATEWIDE, BUT ESPECIALLY IN 

652
00:20:43,408 --> 00:20:45,744
SEATTLE WHO ARE SEEING EXCESSIVE

653
00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:47,579
JUNK FEES ATTACHED TO THEIR 

654
00:20:47,579 --> 00:20:49,047
LEASES, AS WELL AS THAT SHOW UP 

655
00:20:49,047 --> 00:20:51,083
SUDDENLY. ONE OF THE MOST 

656
00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:52,985
CONCERNING ONES THAT WE'VE SEEN

657
00:20:52,985 --> 00:20:53,919
LATELY, THAT I CAN SPEAK TO IS 

658
00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:55,621
SOMEONE WHO I SPOKE TO IN JULY, 

659
00:20:55,621 --> 00:20:58,390
WHO IS A PERSON USING A HOUSING 

660
00:20:58,390 --> 00:21:00,392
CHOICE VOUCHER., IT PUT HER AT 

661
00:21:00,392 --> 00:21:03,028
RISK OF EVICTION VERY QUICKLY 

662
00:21:03,028 --> 00:21:04,463
AND IMMEDIATELY, THE JUNK FEES 

663
00:21:04,463 --> 00:21:05,731
THAT WERE ADDED WERE FOR AN 

664
00:21:05,731 --> 00:21:06,531
EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMAL THAT 

665
00:21:06,531 --> 00:21:09,101
SHE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GET THE

666
00:21:09,101 --> 00:21:11,436
PROPER DOCUMENTATION FOR, 

667
00:21:11,436 --> 00:21:12,404
RESULTING IN HUNDREDS OF FEES 

668
00:21:12,404 --> 00:21:14,306
THAT SHE WAS EXPECTED TO PAY. 

669
00:21:14,306 --> 00:21:14,573
SUDDENLY. 

670
00:21:14,573 --> 00:21:14,806
-- YOU. 

671
00:21:14,806 --> 00:21:16,308
-- THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL

672
00:21:16,308 --> 00:21:19,077
NOW MOVE ON TO VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

673
00:21:19,077 --> 00:21:20,712
THE FIRST REMOTE SPEAKER IS 

674
00:21:20,712 --> 00:21:22,948
LYDIA FELTY. PLEASE PRESS STAR 

675
00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:24,683
SIX. WHEN YOU HEAR THE PROMPT 

676
00:21:24,683 --> 00:21:35,160
THAT YOU HAVE BEEN UNMUTED. 

677
00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:37,562
-- HI, MY NAME IS LYDIA. I'M A 

678
00:21:37,562 --> 00:21:39,665
RENTER IN D.C. AS WELL AS A 

679
00:21:39,665 --> 00:21:41,667
CO-CHAIR OF THE SEATTLE RENTERS 

680
00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:43,335
COMMISSION. THE RENTERS 

681
00:21:43,335 --> 00:21:43,969
COMMISSION SUPPORTS BANNING JUNK

682
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:45,971
FEES TO REDUCE HIDDEN AND 

683
00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:47,939
UNNECESSARY HOUSING COSTS. AS 

684
00:21:47,939 --> 00:21:49,374
RENTER ADVOCATES AND RENTERS 

685
00:21:49,374 --> 00:21:51,009
OURSELVES, WE ARE NO STRANGER TO

686
00:21:51,009 --> 00:21:52,177
THE INTIMATE IMPACT OF JUNK FEES

687
00:21:52,177 --> 00:21:54,246
ON HOUSING STABILITY. THIS 

688
00:21:54,246 --> 00:21:56,682
LEGISLATION IS ABOUT 

689
00:21:56,682 --> 00:21:57,316
TRANSPARENCY AND PREDICTABILITY 

690
00:21:57,316 --> 00:21:59,251
AND ABOUT UPHOLDING THE RENTER 

691
00:21:59,251 --> 00:22:00,919
PROTECTIONS DESIGNED TO PROTECT 

692
00:22:00,919 --> 00:22:02,387
RENTERS FROM PRICE GOUGING AND 

693
00:22:02,387 --> 00:22:04,156
PREVENT, WHICH DOES NOT PREVENT 

694
00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:05,524
LANDLORDS FROM SETTING FAIR 

695
00:22:05,524 --> 00:22:07,559
MARKET RENTS OR CHARGING FOR 

696
00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:08,960
TRULY OPT IN SERVICES. AS SUCH, 

697
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,896
THE COMMISSION STRONGLY SUPPORTS

698
00:22:10,896 --> 00:22:11,797
AMENDMENT ONE, CLOSING A 

699
00:22:11,797 --> 00:22:13,231
LOOPHOLE THAT WOULD ALLOW 

700
00:22:13,231 --> 00:22:15,901
LANDLORDS TO SKIRT THIS 

701
00:22:15,901 --> 00:22:16,435
IMPORTANT LEGISLATION BY 

702
00:22:16,435 --> 00:22:17,636
BUNDLING OPTIONAL FEES. WHILE 

703
00:22:17,636 --> 00:22:19,004
THE COMMISSION HAS NOT BEEN ABLE

704
00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:20,639
TO DISCUSS AMENDMENTS TWO, THREE

705
00:22:20,639 --> 00:22:21,873
AND FOUR, THE COMMISSION IS PART

706
00:22:21,873 --> 00:22:24,076
OF THE STATE HOUSE STAY HEALTHY 

707
00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:24,876
COALITION, AND I HOPE THAT 

708
00:22:24,876 --> 00:22:27,412
YOU'LL WORK WITH THE COALITION 

709
00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:28,947
ON DISCUSSING THOSE AMENDMENTS. 

710
00:22:28,947 --> 00:22:30,649
AS OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED, THIS 

711
00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:32,951
COMPREHENSIVE JUNK FEE BAND, 

712
00:22:32,951 --> 00:22:33,585
WITH ITS ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS 

713
00:22:33,585 --> 00:22:35,687
AND AMENDMENT ONE, IS A CLEAR 

714
00:22:35,687 --> 00:22:36,955
NEED. PLEASE PASS THIS ORDINANCE

715
00:22:36,955 --> 00:22:38,924
WITH AMENDMENT ONE AND WITHOUT 

716
00:22:38,924 --> 00:22:41,326
ANY WEAKENING AMENDMENTS. THANK 

717
00:22:41,326 --> 00:22:41,526
YOU. 

718
00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:44,096
-- THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER 

719
00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:47,933
IS ANGIE GERALD, FOLLOWED BY 

720
00:22:47,933 --> 00:22:53,071
HOLLY GOLDEN. 

721
00:22:53,071 --> 00:22:54,473
-- HI, MY NAME IS ANGIE. I'M A 

722
00:22:54,473 --> 00:22:56,007
SMALL HOUSING PROVIDER FROM 

723
00:22:56,007 --> 00:22:57,542
BALLARD AND A MEMBER OF SEATTLE 

724
00:22:57,542 --> 00:22:59,511
GRASSROOTS LANDLORDS. THIS 

725
00:22:59,511 --> 00:23:00,545
LEGISLATION IS NOT READY TO MOVE

726
00:23:00,545 --> 00:23:02,514
OUT OF COMMITTEE. I REALIZE 

727
00:23:02,514 --> 00:23:04,616
THERE'S TREMENDOUS POLITICAL 

728
00:23:04,616 --> 00:23:05,217
PRESSURE TO DELIVER A NEW WIN 

729
00:23:05,217 --> 00:23:06,551
FOR RENTERS, BUT THIS LOOKS AT 

730
00:23:06,551 --> 00:23:09,387
ONLY HALF THE EQUATION AND SENDS

731
00:23:09,387 --> 00:23:11,823
A STRONG MESSAGE THAT SEATTLE IS

732
00:23:11,823 --> 00:23:12,257
BUSINESS AS USUAL, 

733
00:23:12,257 --> 00:23:13,759
ANTI-BUSINESS, ALLERGIC TO 

734
00:23:13,759 --> 00:23:16,194
PROVIDING A HOLISTIC PUBLIC 

735
00:23:16,194 --> 00:23:18,230
PROCESS. IT'S HOW SEATTLE HAS 

736
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:18,797
APPROACHED LANDLORD TENANT 

737
00:23:18,797 --> 00:23:20,098
REGULATIONS FOR MORE THAN A 

738
00:23:20,098 --> 00:23:21,400
DECADE, WITH AN EVER GROWING 

739
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,035
STOCKPILE OF UNINTENDED 

740
00:23:24,035 --> 00:23:25,937
CONSEQUENCES. THIS IS NOT GOOD 

741
00:23:25,937 --> 00:23:26,571
GOVERNANCE. IT'S AUGUST, AND 

742
00:23:26,571 --> 00:23:29,107
YOU HAVEN'T EVEN RECEIVED THE 

743
00:23:29,107 --> 00:23:30,475
2025 END OF YEAR REO REPORT. 

744
00:23:30,475 --> 00:23:32,110
THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR 

745
00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:32,911
WHAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT 

746
00:23:32,911 --> 00:23:34,813
YOU ARE FORGING AHEAD WITH $1 

747
00:23:34,813 --> 00:23:37,549
MILLION NEW PROGRAM. IT'S SAD TO

748
00:23:37,549 --> 00:23:38,550
SEE THE LACK OF QUESTIONS 

749
00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:39,718
COUNCIL IS ASKING, AND THE LACK 

750
00:23:39,718 --> 00:23:41,987
OF EVIDENCE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND 

751
00:23:41,987 --> 00:23:43,588
AND HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE

752
00:23:43,588 --> 00:23:45,157
OPERATIONAL SIDE OF RENTAL 

753
00:23:45,157 --> 00:23:46,858
HOUSING FROM THE SMALLEST 

754
00:23:46,858 --> 00:23:47,826
PROVIDERS ON UP. IF YOU WANT TO 

755
00:23:47,826 --> 00:23:48,693
WORK TOGETHER, WE'RE ALL 

756
00:23:48,693 --> 00:23:50,896
AVAILABLE THROUGH THE REO 

757
00:23:50,896 --> 00:23:52,330
CONTACT DATABASE. PLEASE DO NOT 

758
00:23:52,330 --> 00:23:54,332
ADVANCE THIS LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE

759
00:23:54,332 --> 00:23:56,701
OUT OF COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. 

760
00:23:56,701 --> 00:23:58,203
-- NEXT SPEAKER IS HOLLY GOLDEN,

761
00:23:58,203 --> 00:24:08,713
FOLLOWED BY HANNAH WHITWORTH. 

762
00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:10,715
-- GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HOLLY 

763
00:24:10,715 --> 00:24:12,284
GOLDEN, A LAND USE ATTORNEY AT 

764
00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:13,185
HILLIS CLARK AND ONE OF THE 

765
00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:14,953
CO-FOUNDERS OF THE SEATTLE 

766
00:24:14,953 --> 00:24:16,154
HOUSING ROUNDTABLE, A GROUP OF 

767
00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:18,123
ABOUT 35 HOUSING PROVIDERS AND 

768
00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:19,991
OPERATORS IN SEATTLE. WE SUPPORT

769
00:24:19,991 --> 00:24:21,760
THE GOAL OF IMPROVED 

770
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,360
TRANSPARENCY. NOBODY BENEFITS 

771
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:23,595
WHEN TENANTS ARE SURPRISED OR 

772
00:24:23,595 --> 00:24:25,664
FEEL UNINFORMED. THERE ARE 

773
00:24:25,664 --> 00:24:28,099
CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE FEES,

774
00:24:28,099 --> 00:24:29,801
RESTRICTIONS ON SOME FEES. THE 

775
00:24:29,801 --> 00:24:31,536
REALITY IS, IF THE COSTS CAN'T 

776
00:24:31,536 --> 00:24:32,737
BE DISCLOSED AND COLLECTED, THEN

777
00:24:32,737 --> 00:24:34,072
THEY WILL BE ABSORBED INTO 

778
00:24:34,072 --> 00:24:36,608
INCREASED BASE RENT FOR ALL 

779
00:24:36,608 --> 00:24:37,209
TENANTS WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY. 

780
00:24:37,209 --> 00:24:39,144
FOR INSTANCE, WE KNOW DOGS CAUSE

781
00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:41,279
WEAR AND TEAR AND CLEANING 

782
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:41,947
COSTS. RESIDENTS WITHOUT DOGS 

783
00:24:41,947 --> 00:24:43,648
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE

784
00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:45,283
COSTS. REASONABLE DOG FEES ARE A

785
00:24:45,283 --> 00:24:46,885
MORE EQUITABLE SOLUTION. THERE 

786
00:24:46,885 --> 00:24:48,687
ARE ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT RULES 

787
00:24:48,687 --> 00:24:49,221
CHANGING MIDSTREAM, LIKE 

788
00:24:49,221 --> 00:24:50,889
BUILDING WIDE TECHNOLOGY 

789
00:24:50,889 --> 00:24:52,757
INVESTMENTS THAT CAN NO LONGER 

790
00:24:52,757 --> 00:24:53,358
BE RECOVERED EVEN IF THE FEES 

791
00:24:53,358 --> 00:24:54,926
ARE DISCLOSED. IT'S PROBLEMATIC

792
00:24:54,926 --> 00:24:56,328
WHEN THE MATH CHANGES ON HOUSING

793
00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:58,330
AFTER IT'S ALREADY BUILT. 

794
00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:00,065
FINALLY, ON ENFORCEMENT, HONEST 

795
00:25:00,065 --> 00:25:01,166
MISTAKES WILL HAPPEN. WE URGE 

796
00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:03,034
YOUR SUPPORT OF AMENDMENTS THREE

797
00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:05,103
AND FOUR TO ALLOW QUICK AND 

798
00:25:05,103 --> 00:25:05,604
REASONABLE RESOLUTION. 

799
00:25:05,604 --> 00:25:07,405
OTHERWISE, IT WILL FORCE TENANTS

800
00:25:07,405 --> 00:25:08,707
INTO EXPENSIVE LAWSUITS AND 

801
00:25:08,707 --> 00:25:10,308
CAUSE SMALL LANDLORDS TO REMOVE 

802
00:25:10,308 --> 00:25:10,909
THEIR UNITS FROM THE MARKET. 

803
00:25:10,909 --> 00:25:12,344
THESE CHANGES ARE BENEFICIAL FOR

804
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,512
EVERYONE. THANKS. 

805
00:25:14,512 --> 00:25:16,147
-- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HANNAH 

806
00:25:16,147 --> 00:25:19,784
WHITWORTH, FOLLOWED BY CASEY 

807
00:25:19,784 --> 00:25:23,655
BURTON. 

808
00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:24,789
-- MY NAME IS HANNAH WHITWORTH 

809
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:25,423
AND I'M THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

810
00:25:25,423 --> 00:25:26,892
HOUSING SYSTEMS MANAGER AT THE 

811
00:25:26,892 --> 00:25:28,527
COALITION. ENDING GENDER BASED 

812
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:29,594
VIOLENCE. OUR WORK AS A 

813
00:25:29,594 --> 00:25:32,330
COALITION IS TO CARE FOR, 

814
00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:32,964
CONNECT WITH AND MOBILIZE OVER 

815
00:25:32,964 --> 00:25:34,232
35 LOCAL GENDER BASED VIOLENCE 

816
00:25:34,232 --> 00:25:35,367
PROGRAMS WHO ARE ALL WORKING TO 

817
00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:37,469
SUPPORT SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC 

818
00:25:37,469 --> 00:25:38,737
VIOLENCE, SEXUAL ASSAULT AND 

819
00:25:38,737 --> 00:25:40,005
TRAFFICKING. WE'D LIKE TO 

820
00:25:40,005 --> 00:25:42,641
EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT FOR THIS 

821
00:25:42,641 --> 00:25:43,208
PROPOSED LEGISLATION TO BAN 

822
00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:45,043
HIDDEN RENTAL FEES, AND WE URGE 

823
00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:46,578
THE COUNCIL TO DO THE SAME. WE 

824
00:25:46,578 --> 00:25:48,713
ALSO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT 

825
00:25:48,713 --> 00:25:49,347
PROHIBITING MANDATORY BUNDLING 

826
00:25:49,347 --> 00:25:51,349
OF OPTIONAL SERVICES. 

827
00:25:51,349 --> 00:25:52,150
TRANSPARENCY IS A CRITICAL 

828
00:25:52,150 --> 00:25:52,684
COMPONENT IN WORKING WITH 

829
00:25:52,684 --> 00:25:53,985
SURVIVORS, AND WE NEED TO CARRY 

830
00:25:53,985 --> 00:25:56,221
THAT OVER INTO OUR HOUSING 

831
00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:56,888
SURVIVORS. TIME AND TIME AGAIN, 

832
00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:58,790
I HEAR FROM ADVOCATES ABOUT THE 

833
00:25:58,790 --> 00:26:00,358
BARRIERS THEY AND SURVIVORS 

834
00:26:00,358 --> 00:26:00,959
ENCOUNTER WHEN NAVIGATING THE 

835
00:26:00,959 --> 00:26:02,127
RENTAL MARKET. THEY GET SEVERAL 

836
00:26:02,127 --> 00:26:03,862
STEPS IN AND FIND OUT THAT THE 

837
00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:04,496
RENTAL THEY'RE CONSIDERING IS 

838
00:26:04,496 --> 00:26:05,997
NOT AN OPTION GIVEN THEIR 

839
00:26:05,997 --> 00:26:07,532
RESOURCES. THIS ERODES TRUST, 

840
00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:08,466
INCREASES THE SENSE OF 

841
00:26:08,466 --> 00:26:10,035
HOPELESSNESS, AND EXTENDS THE 

842
00:26:10,035 --> 00:26:11,336
TIME A SURVIVOR IS UNHOUSED, ALL

843
00:26:11,336 --> 00:26:14,005
OF WHICH CAN MAKE IT HARDER FOR 

844
00:26:14,005 --> 00:26:14,573
SURVIVORS TO LEAVE ABUSIVE 

845
00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:15,607
RELATIONSHIPS AND STAY SAFE. 

846
00:26:15,607 --> 00:26:16,841
IT'S ALSO AN INEFFICIENT USE OF

847
00:26:16,841 --> 00:26:19,277
OUR ALREADY LIMITED HOUSING 

848
00:26:19,277 --> 00:26:20,712
SUPPORT SERVICES, BANNING 

849
00:26:20,712 --> 00:26:22,080
HITTING RENTAL FEES WOULD 

850
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,348
IMPROVE THE TRANSPARENCY OF OUR 

851
00:26:23,348 --> 00:26:24,716
HOUSING MARKET AND IN TURN, 

852
00:26:24,716 --> 00:26:25,317
IMPROVE SUPPORT FOR SURVIVORS 

853
00:26:25,317 --> 00:26:27,819
WHO ARE NAVIGATING HOMELESSNESS.

854
00:26:27,819 --> 00:26:30,155
SURVIVORS DESERVE TRANSPARENCY 

855
00:26:30,155 --> 00:26:30,789
AND ACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT 

856
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:31,823
THE ALL IN COSTS OF RENT SO THEY

857
00:26:31,823 --> 00:26:34,192
CAN MAKE INFORMED CHOICES AS 

858
00:26:34,192 --> 00:26:35,226
THEY HEAL FROM ABUSE. THIS 

859
00:26:35,226 --> 00:26:38,697
LEGISLATION IS A STEP IN THE 

860
00:26:38,697 --> 00:26:39,531
RIGHT DIRECTION TO DO JUST THAT,

861
00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:40,131
AND WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. 

862
00:26:40,131 --> 00:26:41,166
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK 

863
00:26:41,166 --> 00:26:43,602
TODAY 

864
00:26:43,602 --> 00:26:47,605
-- THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER 

865
00:26:47,605 --> 00:26:48,239
IS HANNAH BURTON, FOLLOWED BY, 

866
00:26:48,239 --> 00:26:49,474
I'M SORRY, CASEY BURTON, 

867
00:26:49,474 --> 00:26:59,684
FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN MERRIMAN. 

868
00:26:59,684 --> 00:27:00,318
-- GOOD AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU

869
00:27:00,318 --> 00:27:02,153
FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, 

870
00:27:02,153 --> 00:27:03,488
COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS CASEY

871
00:27:03,488 --> 00:27:04,689
BURTON. I AM A MEMBER OF THE 

872
00:27:04,689 --> 00:27:05,957
RENTERS COMMISSION AND THE STATE

873
00:27:05,957 --> 00:27:07,926
HOUSE STAY HEALTHY COALITION. I 

874
00:27:07,926 --> 00:27:10,228
AM ASKING YOU TO PASS THIS BILL 

875
00:27:10,228 --> 00:27:11,763
AS WELL AS AMENDMENTS ONE AND 

876
00:27:11,763 --> 00:27:12,364
TWO, WHILE CONTINUING TO WORK 

877
00:27:12,364 --> 00:27:13,765
WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS ON 

878
00:27:13,765 --> 00:27:15,867
AMENDMENTS THREE AND FOUR. 

879
00:27:15,867 --> 00:27:17,268
SEATTLE RENTERS DESERVE TO KNOW 

880
00:27:17,268 --> 00:27:17,936
WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO BEFORE

881
00:27:17,936 --> 00:27:20,105
THEY SHOW UP TO SIGN A LEASE. 

882
00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:20,772
REALIZE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE 

883
00:27:20,772 --> 00:27:22,173
APARTMENT, AND LOSE THEIR 

884
00:27:22,173 --> 00:27:24,109
HOLDING, DEPOSIT, THEIR 

885
00:27:24,109 --> 00:27:24,876
APPLICATION FEE, AND ANYTHING 

886
00:27:24,876 --> 00:27:26,511
ELSE THEY'VE PAID. THE LANDLORD

887
00:27:26,511 --> 00:27:28,646
IN PARTICULAR, I ASK THAT YOU 

888
00:27:28,646 --> 00:27:30,582
SUPPORT THE BAN ON PET LANDLORDS

889
00:27:30,582 --> 00:27:32,017
SAY IT'S TO COVER DAMAGE SINCE 

890
00:27:32,017 --> 00:27:33,685
THE DEPOSIT SIMPLY ISN'T ENOUGH.

891
00:27:33,685 --> 00:27:36,588
BUT MY LANDLORD CHARGES FOLKS 

892
00:27:36,588 --> 00:27:39,724
$95 A MONTH FOR PET RENT PER 

893
00:27:39,724 --> 00:27:41,226
PET. THAT'S ALMOST $1,200 TO MY

894
00:27:41,226 --> 00:27:42,293
LANDLORD PER YEAR. I'VE LIVED 

895
00:27:42,293 --> 00:27:44,696
HERE ALMOST THREE YEARS. IF MY 

896
00:27:44,696 --> 00:27:47,198
PET DOESN'T CAUSE ANY DAMAGE, I

897
00:27:47,198 --> 00:27:48,299
DON'T GET ANY OF A DIME OF 

898
00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:50,502
THOSE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BACK.

899
00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:52,203
THIS WON'T INCREASE RENT 

900
00:27:52,203 --> 00:27:53,471
BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY PAYING 

901
00:27:53,471 --> 00:27:54,172
THIS AMOUNT. LET'S BE HONEST 

902
00:27:54,172 --> 00:27:55,940
ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PAYING

903
00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:57,175
BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. THANK 

904
00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:59,210
YOU. 

905
00:27:59,210 --> 00:27:59,711
-- ALL RIGHT. 

906
00:27:59,711 --> 00:28:00,812
-- IT LOOKS LIKE JUSTIN IS NO 

907
00:28:00,812 --> 00:28:03,515
LONGER ON, SO WE'LL JUMP TO CAT

908
00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:05,216
MUNSON. BUT JUST IF YOU JOIN, 

909
00:28:05,216 --> 00:28:06,818
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. SO CAT 

910
00:28:06,818 --> 00:28:08,753
MUNSON, FOLLOWED BY LESLIE 

911
00:28:08,753 --> 00:28:16,428
SHELTON 

912
00:28:16,661 --> 00:28:20,098
-- GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR FOSTER 

913
00:28:20,098 --> 00:28:21,933
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY

914
00:28:21,933 --> 00:28:23,168
NAME IS CAT MUNSON. I'M A RENTER

915
00:28:23,168 --> 00:28:25,303
IN DISTRICT FOUR, AND I'M THE 

916
00:28:25,303 --> 00:28:27,672
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND 

917
00:28:27,672 --> 00:28:28,239
ADVOCACY MANAGER WITH SOUND 

918
00:28:28,239 --> 00:28:29,374
GENERATIONS, WHERE WE SERVE 

919
00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:30,675
OLDER ADULTS ACROSS SEATTLE AND 

920
00:28:30,675 --> 00:28:31,776
KING COUNTY THROUGH MEALS ON 

921
00:28:31,776 --> 00:28:34,412
WHEELS, THE HYDE SHUTTLE, SENIOR

922
00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:35,980
RIGHTS ASSISTANCE, AND MUCH 

923
00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:37,315
MORE. I'M HERE IN STRONG 

924
00:28:37,315 --> 00:28:37,949
SUPPORT TODAY OF THE ORDINANCE 

925
00:28:37,949 --> 00:28:40,085
TO BAN JUNK FEES, LOW INCOME 

926
00:28:40,085 --> 00:28:42,754
OLDER RENTERS THAT WE SERVE LIVE

927
00:28:42,754 --> 00:28:44,689
ON FIXED INCOMES. SO EVEN A 

928
00:28:44,689 --> 00:28:45,890
SEEMINGLY SMALL HIDDEN FEE CAN 

929
00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:47,759
TIP THE BALANCE TOWARDS HOUSING 

930
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,128
INSECURITY. AND OLDER ADULTS ARE

931
00:28:50,128 --> 00:28:51,996
OFTEN SPECIFICALLY TARGETED BY 

932
00:28:51,996 --> 00:28:52,497
PREDATORY LANDLORDS WHO 

933
00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:53,198
CAPITALIZE ON THE FACT THAT 

934
00:28:53,198 --> 00:28:54,966
THEY'RE MUCH LESS LIKELY TO 

935
00:28:54,966 --> 00:28:58,436
MOVE. MY OWN MOM, WHO LIVED IN A

936
00:28:58,436 --> 00:28:59,738
CAPITOL HILL HOUSING COMPLEX FOR

937
00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:01,473
15 YEARS, FOUGHT AGAINST PET 

938
00:29:01,473 --> 00:29:03,708
RENT FOR HER BELOVED DOG AND 

939
00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:05,944
COMPANION PHOEBE AND HER 

940
00:29:05,944 --> 00:29:06,544
NEIGHBOR TRIED UNSUCCESSFULLY 

941
00:29:06,544 --> 00:29:08,146
BECAUSE I HELPED HER FOR MONTHS 

942
00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:08,680
TO UNBUNDLE THE CABLE SHE 

943
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,315
DIDN'T WANT FROM HER INTERNET 

944
00:29:10,315 --> 00:29:13,017
SERVICE. SO COUNCILMEMBER RINCK 

945
00:29:13,017 --> 00:29:13,818
AMENDMENT ADDRESSING THIS IS A 

946
00:29:13,818 --> 00:29:15,253
CRUCIAL PIECE OF THE 

947
00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:16,521
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU FOR 

948
00:29:16,521 --> 00:29:17,622
VOTING YES ON AMENDMENTS ONE AND

949
00:29:17,622 --> 00:29:19,124
TWO, REFINING THREE AND FOUR AND

950
00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:21,392
PROTECTING OLDER RENTERS IN 

951
00:29:21,392 --> 00:29:21,659
SEATTLE. 

952
00:29:21,659 --> 00:29:22,293
-- THANK YOU. 

953
00:29:22,293 --> 00:29:23,895
-- NEXT WE HAVE LESLIE SHELTON, 

954
00:29:23,895 --> 00:29:34,405
FOLLOWED BY MARGARET SCHILD. 

955
00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:40,745
-- HELLO, MY NAME IS LESLIE 

956
00:29:40,745 --> 00:29:42,413
SHELTON. I LIVE ON FIRST HILL. 

957
00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:43,948
THE WAY THE CURRENT TENANTS 

958
00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:45,450
RIGHTS LAWS ARE SET UP CREATES A

959
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:46,651
LOOPHOLE. THIS LOOPHOLE ALLOWS 

960
00:29:46,651 --> 00:29:48,953
CORRUPT THIRD PARTY UTILITY 

961
00:29:48,953 --> 00:29:50,488
MANAGEMENT COMPANIES TO CHARGE 

962
00:29:50,488 --> 00:29:51,122
UNREGULATED AND UNCHECKED FEES 

963
00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:53,691
OF ANY AMOUNT THEY CHOOSE, NEVER

964
00:29:53,691 --> 00:29:54,692
NEEDING TO DISCLOSE IN ADVANCE 

965
00:29:54,692 --> 00:29:56,194
HOW MUCH THESE FEES WILL BE, OR 

966
00:29:56,194 --> 00:29:57,195
WHEN THESE FEES MAY INCREASE 

967
00:29:57,195 --> 00:29:59,731
FROM MONTH TO MONTH. THIS LEAVES

968
00:29:59,731 --> 00:30:00,465
TENANTS UNABLE TO CREATE A 

969
00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:01,366
CONSISTENT BUDGET FOR THEIR 

970
00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:02,767
LIVING EXPENSES, AND CAN CAUSE 

971
00:30:02,767 --> 00:30:04,936
GREAT HARDSHIP FOR WORKING CLASS

972
00:30:04,936 --> 00:30:07,539
FAMILIES. AS YOU HEARD, MONTHS 

973
00:30:07,539 --> 00:30:08,506
AFTER I RENEWED MY CURRENT 

974
00:30:08,506 --> 00:30:10,575
LEASE, I FOUND I WAS BEING 

975
00:30:10,575 --> 00:30:11,376
CHARGED AN EXTRA $165 BY A THIRD

976
00:30:11,376 --> 00:30:13,878
PARTY BILLING COMPANY CALLED 

977
00:30:13,878 --> 00:30:15,180
REALPAGE. I CANNOT AFFORD THIS. 

978
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:16,147
SO I TRIED TO LOOK FOR A NEW 

979
00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:18,216
PLACE TO LIVE. I WAS SURPRISED 

980
00:30:18,216 --> 00:30:20,118
TO FIND THAT THE AVERAGE PRICE 

981
00:30:20,118 --> 00:30:21,886
POSTED FOR A RENTAL WAS LOW, AND

982
00:30:21,886 --> 00:30:23,087
I WONDERED WHY. AFTER SOME 

983
00:30:23,087 --> 00:30:24,022
DIGGING, I FOUND OUT THAT MOST 

984
00:30:24,022 --> 00:30:25,590
OF THESE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES 

985
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:26,724
WERE CHARGING HUGE JUNK FEES ON 

986
00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:30,228
TOP OF RENT, UPWARDS OF 200 OR 

987
00:30:30,228 --> 00:30:31,229
MORE A MONTH AFTER YOU SIGNED 

988
00:30:31,229 --> 00:30:33,832
THE LEASE, IT FELT LIKE A BAIT 

989
00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:35,099
AND SWITCH. AND IT'S NOT JUST A

990
00:30:35,099 --> 00:30:36,801
FEW COMPANIES DOING THIS. IT HAS

991
00:30:36,801 --> 00:30:38,069
BECOME STANDARD PRACTICE. IF 

992
00:30:38,069 --> 00:30:39,537
THIS CONTINUES, IT MAY FORCE 

993
00:30:39,537 --> 00:30:40,305
WORKING CLASS PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF

994
00:30:40,305 --> 00:30:41,706
TO LEAVE SOUTH SEATTLE 

995
00:30:41,706 --> 00:30:43,074
ALTOGETHER. YOU CAN PREVENT 

996
00:30:43,074 --> 00:30:45,410
THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 

997
00:30:45,410 --> 00:30:46,644
-- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARGARET 

998
00:30:46,644 --> 00:30:51,316
SCHILD, FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH 

999
00:30:51,316 --> 00:30:56,621
CAMPBELL. 

1000
00:30:56,621 --> 00:30:57,355
-- I'M MARGARET SCHILD IN LAKE 

1001
00:30:57,355 --> 00:30:59,357
CITY IN D FIVE HERE IN SUPPORT 

1002
00:30:59,357 --> 00:31:01,059
OF COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER BILL TO 

1003
00:31:01,059 --> 00:31:02,861
PROHIBIT UNFAIR, UNEXPECTED 

1004
00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:04,195
RENTAL FEES THAT SOME LANDLORDS 

1005
00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:06,030
USE TO GET AROUND RENTER 

1006
00:31:06,030 --> 00:31:07,498
PROTECTION LAWS. THANK YOU FOR 

1007
00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:08,933
WORKING ON THIS BIG PROBLEM. 

1008
00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:11,236
THIS BILL IS CRITICAL TO 

1009
00:31:11,236 --> 00:31:13,304
PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS. LAST 

1010
00:31:13,304 --> 00:31:14,639
YEAR I HEARD A RESIDENT OF TENT 

1011
00:31:14,639 --> 00:31:15,373
CITY FOUR EXPLAIN HOW HE HAD 

1012
00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:18,409
BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO STAY IN 

1013
00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:20,178
HIS APARTMENT BECAUSE HE HAD 

1014
00:31:20,178 --> 00:31:21,579
PREVIOUSLY BEEN HOMELESS. HE HAD

1015
00:31:21,579 --> 00:31:23,715
A HOUSING VOUCHER AND WAS JUST 

1016
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:24,415
MANAGING TO PAY HIS SHARE OF THE

1017
00:31:24,415 --> 00:31:27,085
RENT EACH MONTH. THEN THE 

1018
00:31:27,085 --> 00:31:27,952
LANDLORD ADDED AN EXTRA FEE FOR 

1019
00:31:27,952 --> 00:31:30,121
GARBAGE AND RECYCLING. THOSE 

1020
00:31:30,121 --> 00:31:31,923
ADDED FEES PILED UP. HE WAS 

1021
00:31:31,923 --> 00:31:34,125
EVICTED AND ENDED UP IN A 

1022
00:31:34,125 --> 00:31:35,894
SHELTER. THAT'S WRONG. I USED 

1023
00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:38,129
TO BE A RENTER TOO. IN THE 80s, 

1024
00:31:38,129 --> 00:31:40,398
90s AND 2000 AND THESE JUNK 

1025
00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:42,667
RENTAL THINGS WERE JUST NOT A 

1026
00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:45,003
THING. THEN I PAID A DEPOSIT, 

1027
00:31:45,003 --> 00:31:46,971
PLUS A PET DEPOSIT AND RENT AND 

1028
00:31:46,971 --> 00:31:50,174
THAT'S IT. AND I NOTICED THAT 

1029
00:31:50,174 --> 00:31:51,743
THE LANDLORDS WERE DOING RENTON.

1030
00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:53,044
NOW, MORE THAN HALF OF ALL 

1031
00:31:53,044 --> 00:31:54,545
SEATTLE PEOPLE ARE RENTERS. 

1032
00:31:54,545 --> 00:31:57,415
PLEASE MAKE OUR CITY STRONGER. 

1033
00:31:57,415 --> 00:31:57,749
PROTECT THEM. 

1034
00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,217
-- THANK YOU. 

1035
00:31:59,217 --> 00:32:01,219
-- NEXT, WE HAVE MARGARET 

1036
00:32:01,219 --> 00:32:05,490
CAMPBELL, FOLLOWED BY MARK 

1037
00:32:05,490 --> 00:32:13,231
ANGELILLO. 

1038
00:32:13,464 --> 00:32:18,670
-- HI, MY NAME IS ELIZABETH 

1039
00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:21,539
ARCHAMBAULT AND I'M A RENTER IN

1040
00:32:21,539 --> 00:32:23,174
SOUTH LAKE UNION NEIGHBORHOOD. 

1041
00:32:23,174 --> 00:32:24,776
I'M TESTIFYING TODAY. EXCUSE 

1042
00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:27,278
ME. TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED JUNK

1043
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:30,048
FREE LEGISLATION., AND I WANTED 

1044
00:32:30,048 --> 00:32:32,917
I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IN

1045
00:32:32,917 --> 00:32:34,452
TALKING WITH MY NEIGHBORS IN THE

1046
00:32:34,452 --> 00:32:36,921
BUILDING THAT I LIVE, WHEN JUNK 

1047
00:32:36,921 --> 00:32:38,756
FEES ARE ADDED TO THEIR MONTHLY 

1048
00:32:38,756 --> 00:32:40,224
AMOUNT OF RENT, PEOPLE HAVE A 

1049
00:32:40,224 --> 00:32:41,659
REALLY HARD TIME AND STRUGGLE TO

1050
00:32:41,659 --> 00:32:43,061
KEEP ON TOP OF THEIR PAYING 

1051
00:32:43,061 --> 00:32:46,831
RENT. THIS CAN OFTEN LEAD TO TEN

1052
00:32:46,831 --> 00:32:49,267
DAY NOTICES AND POSSIBLY FACING 

1053
00:32:49,267 --> 00:32:50,969
EVICTION. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY

1054
00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:53,971
IMPORTANT. AND I URGE YOU AS A 

1055
00:32:53,971 --> 00:32:56,941
COMMITTEE TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE 

1056
00:32:56,941 --> 00:32:58,876
YES ON THE THE PROPOSED 

1057
00:32:58,876 --> 00:33:01,379
LEGISLATION TO BAN JUNK FEES AND

1058
00:33:01,379 --> 00:33:03,848
TO REJECT ANY OF THE AMENDMENTS 

1059
00:33:03,848 --> 00:33:05,983
THAT REDUCE THE PROTECTION FOR 

1060
00:33:05,983 --> 00:33:07,418
TENANTS AND WRITERS. EXCUSE ME. 

1061
00:33:07,418 --> 00:33:10,388
RENTERS. THANK YOU. 

1062
00:33:10,388 --> 00:33:12,190
-- NEXT, SPEAKER IS MARK ANDREW 

1063
00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:16,861
LEE, FOLLOWED BY, B ILANA RODAN 

1064
00:33:16,861 --> 00:33:24,769
HAMIL 

1065
00:33:25,002 --> 00:33:34,312
-- GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS 

1066
00:33:34,312 --> 00:33:34,979
MARK ANGELILLO. I'M THE MANAGING

1067
00:33:34,979 --> 00:33:37,181
MEMBER OF SCREEN REAL ESTATE. 

1068
00:33:37,181 --> 00:33:38,116
WE'RE A LOCAL DEVELOPER FOCUSED

1069
00:33:38,116 --> 00:33:40,151
ON HOUSING, BOTH MARKET RATE AND

1070
00:33:40,151 --> 00:33:41,586
AFFORDABLE IN THE SEATTLE 

1071
00:33:41,586 --> 00:33:43,321
MARKETPLACE. WE'VE BEEN BUILDING

1072
00:33:43,321 --> 00:33:43,955
IN SEATTLE FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 

1073
00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:44,589
YEARS, AND I'VE LIVED IN THE 

1074
00:33:44,589 --> 00:33:47,225
CITY OF SEATTLE FOR 35 YEARS. 

1075
00:33:47,225 --> 00:33:48,726
HERE TODAY HAS A SMALL LOCAL 

1076
00:33:48,726 --> 00:33:51,262
DEVELOPER TO COMMENT ON PROPOSED

1077
00:33:51,262 --> 00:33:53,097
CB 121254 AS DRAFTED. REGARDING 

1078
00:33:53,097 --> 00:33:55,733
PET RENTAL WILL FORCE US TO 

1079
00:33:55,733 --> 00:33:56,401
CHARGE ALL TENANTS MORE RENT TO 

1080
00:33:56,401 --> 00:33:58,202
COVER THE COST OF THOSE TENANTS 

1081
00:33:58,202 --> 00:34:00,171
WHO DO HAVE PETS. DOGS AND CATS 

1082
00:34:00,171 --> 00:34:01,839
DO REAL DAMAGE AND HAVE REAL 

1083
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:02,707
IMPACTS ON WEAR AND TEAR. ANY OF

1084
00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:04,442
YOU THAT HAVE PETS CAN SURELY 

1085
00:34:04,442 --> 00:34:05,476
ATTEST TO THIS. OUR BUILDINGS 

1086
00:34:05,476 --> 00:34:07,445
ARE CURRENTLY PET FRIENDLY AND 

1087
00:34:07,445 --> 00:34:09,047
WE DISCLOSE ALL PET COSTS, 

1088
00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:11,115
IMPACTS, AND DEPOSITS UPFRONT TO

1089
00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:12,583
POTENTIAL TENANTS AS WE ALWAYS 

1090
00:34:12,583 --> 00:34:14,385
HAVE. WE ALSO BELIEVE LANDLORDS 

1091
00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:15,787
SHOULD BE OBLIGATED TO DO THE 

1092
00:34:15,787 --> 00:34:17,588
SAME DISCLOSURE AND ALL COSTS 

1093
00:34:17,588 --> 00:34:18,756
RELATED TO HAVING PETS UPFRONT 

1094
00:34:18,756 --> 00:34:20,291
AND IN WRITING TO POTENTIAL 

1095
00:34:20,291 --> 00:34:22,026
TENANTS AND CURRENT TENANTS. THE

1096
00:34:22,026 --> 00:34:24,395
LEGISLATION IS DRAFTED REGARDING

1097
00:34:24,395 --> 00:34:26,531
BULK INTERNET IS A SIGNIFICANT 

1098
00:34:26,531 --> 00:34:27,799
ISSUE. FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE JUST

1099
00:34:27,799 --> 00:34:29,033
COMPLETING A 74 UNIT BUILDING. 

1100
00:34:29,033 --> 00:34:30,835
THE INTERNET IS OPTIONAL. 

1101
00:34:30,835 --> 00:34:32,537
SERVICE THAT CAN CHOOSE TO SIGN 

1102
00:34:32,537 --> 00:34:34,472
UP FOR THE BULK COST OF THE 

1103
00:34:34,472 --> 00:34:37,241
INTERNET TO US IS APPROXIMATELY 

1104
00:34:37,241 --> 00:34:37,442
$850. 

1105
00:34:37,442 --> 00:34:40,311
-- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ILANA 

1106
00:34:40,311 --> 00:34:41,079
HAMMEL, FOLLOWED BY DYLAN GREER.

1107
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:42,713
AS A REMINDER, IF YOU HAVE 

1108
00:34:42,713 --> 00:34:43,448
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IN YOUR 

1109
00:34:43,448 --> 00:34:46,117
VIRTUAL, YOU CAN EMAIL THOSE TO 

1110
00:34:46,117 --> 00:34:53,758
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER 

1111
00:34:53,891 --> 00:35:01,899
AND ILANA, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO

1112
00:35:01,899 --> 00:35:12,343
PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. 

1113
00:35:13,177 --> 00:35:15,746
-- AND OH. 

1114
00:35:15,746 --> 00:35:16,714
-- MY NAME IS ALANA ROTHERMEL 

1115
00:35:16,714 --> 00:35:18,449
AND I AM A RENTER IN WEST 

1116
00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:20,084
SEATTLE. AND I SUPPORT THE 

1117
00:35:20,084 --> 00:35:21,586
PROPOSED BAN ON RENTAL JUNK 

1118
00:35:21,586 --> 00:35:23,387
FEES. WHEN MY WIFE AND I WERE 

1119
00:35:23,387 --> 00:35:24,555
PREPARING TO MOVE, WE FOUND A 

1120
00:35:24,555 --> 00:35:26,257
RENTAL THAT SEEMED TO FIT OUR 

1121
00:35:26,257 --> 00:35:27,458
BUDGET. BUT THEN BEFORE WE COULD

1122
00:35:27,458 --> 00:35:28,426
MOVE IN, WE WERE TOLD THAT 

1123
00:35:28,426 --> 00:35:30,027
BECAUSE WE HAD A CAT, WE ALSO 

1124
00:35:30,027 --> 00:35:32,697
WERE CHARGED AN ADDITIONAL $300 

1125
00:35:32,697 --> 00:35:34,398
NONREFUNDABLE PET CLEANING FEE. 

1126
00:35:34,398 --> 00:35:36,467
SEATTLE RENTERS ARE ALREADY 

1127
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:37,034
RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING ANY 

1128
00:35:37,034 --> 00:35:38,503
DAMAGE. THEIR PETS ACTUALLY 

1129
00:35:38,503 --> 00:35:39,737
CAUSE, BUT THE FEE WASN'T 

1130
00:35:39,737 --> 00:35:41,439
APPLIED TOWARD DAMAGES OR EXTRA 

1131
00:35:41,439 --> 00:35:42,874
CLEANING. AND BECAUSE LANDLORDS 

1132
00:35:42,874 --> 00:35:44,342
HOLD THE POWER DURING THE RENTAL

1133
00:35:44,342 --> 00:35:45,576
PROCESS, SAYING NO WASN'T REALLY

1134
00:35:45,576 --> 00:35:46,677
AN OPTION. IF WE WANTED TO RENT 

1135
00:35:46,677 --> 00:35:48,713
A HOME, IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME 

1136
00:35:48,713 --> 00:35:50,548
TO FIND A RENTAL AND ALSO RENTAL

1137
00:35:50,548 --> 00:35:52,216
APPLICATION FEES STACK UP. 

1138
00:35:52,216 --> 00:35:53,284
WALKING AWAY WOULD HAVE MEANT 

1139
00:35:53,284 --> 00:35:55,653
STARTING THE SEARCH OVER, PAYING

1140
00:35:55,653 --> 00:35:56,287
ADDITIONAL APPLICATION FEES WITH

1141
00:35:56,287 --> 00:35:57,321
NO GUARANTEE THE NEXT RENTAL 

1142
00:35:57,321 --> 00:35:58,289
WOULDN'T COME WITH ITS OWN 

1143
00:35:58,289 --> 00:36:00,525
HIDDEN FEES. JUST TWO MONTHS 

1144
00:36:00,525 --> 00:36:02,026
AFTER WE MOVED IN, OUR ELDERLY 

1145
00:36:02,026 --> 00:36:03,494
CAT PASSED AWAY FROM OLD AGE. 

1146
00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:05,096
SHE NEVER CAUSED ANY DAMAGE THAT

1147
00:36:05,096 --> 00:36:07,865
WOULD JUSTIFY AN EXTRA $300 

1148
00:36:07,865 --> 00:36:08,933
CLEANING CHARGE, YET WE NEVER 

1149
00:36:08,933 --> 00:36:11,802
GOT THAT MONEY BACK. IF THIS 

1150
00:36:11,802 --> 00:36:12,603
EXPERIENCE SHOWED ME THESE FEES 

1151
00:36:12,603 --> 00:36:15,940
ARE NOT INTENDED TO COVER ACTUAL

1152
00:36:15,940 --> 00:36:17,175
COSTS. INSTEAD, THEY'RE ABOUT 

1153
00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:18,209
CHARGING RENTERS MORE WHILE 

1154
00:36:18,209 --> 00:36:19,544
OBSCURING THE TRUE COST OF 

1155
00:36:19,544 --> 00:36:19,810
HOUSING. 

1156
00:36:19,810 --> 00:36:20,511
-- OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DYLAN 

1157
00:36:20,511 --> 00:36:30,021
GREER, FOLLOWED BY AMY DAMANI. 

1158
00:36:30,021 --> 00:36:30,454
-- GOOD AFTERNOON, 

1159
00:36:30,454 --> 00:36:31,622
COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS DYLAN

1160
00:36:31,622 --> 00:36:35,159
GREER. I'M A CURRENT UW GRADUATE

1161
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:35,793
STUDENT STUDYING REAL ESTATE AND

1162
00:36:35,793 --> 00:36:36,994
THE CURRENT DISTRICT FOUR 

1163
00:36:36,994 --> 00:36:38,362
RENTER, AND WILL BE MOVING TO 

1164
00:36:38,362 --> 00:36:40,164
DISTRICT SEVEN AS A RENTER THIS 

1165
00:36:40,164 --> 00:36:43,000
FRIDAY. I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON 

1166
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,303
COUNCIL BILL 121254. 

1167
00:36:45,303 --> 00:36:47,705
SPECIFICALLY REGARDING PET RENT,

1168
00:36:47,705 --> 00:36:49,941
LANDLORDS HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO

1169
00:36:49,941 --> 00:36:50,474
MAINTAIN COMMON AREAS AND 

1170
00:36:50,474 --> 00:36:51,976
MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN BETWEEN 

1171
00:36:51,976 --> 00:36:54,712
TENANTS, AND THIS MAINTENANCE 

1172
00:36:54,712 --> 00:36:55,246
REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT 

1173
00:36:55,246 --> 00:36:56,981
OPERATIONAL COST. PET RENT 

1174
00:36:56,981 --> 00:36:58,015
ALLOWS THIS BURDEN TO BE PLACED 

1175
00:36:58,015 --> 00:37:01,419
ON THE PET OWNERS DIRECTLY. IF 

1176
00:37:01,419 --> 00:37:02,887
PET RENT IS ELIMINATED, EITHER 

1177
00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:04,855
BASE RENT FOR ALL TENANTS WILL 

1178
00:37:04,855 --> 00:37:05,990
INCREASE OR COMMON AREAS WILL 

1179
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:08,192
NOT BE UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS. 

1180
00:37:08,192 --> 00:37:11,729
PET RENT AND OTHER SIMILAR FEES 

1181
00:37:11,729 --> 00:37:12,330
MAKE RENTING MORE AFFORDABLE 

1182
00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:14,165
OVERALL FOR THE INDIVIDUAL 

1183
00:37:14,165 --> 00:37:15,766
RENTER, RATHER THAN BEARING THE 

1184
00:37:15,766 --> 00:37:17,602
INCREASED COST OF PET RELATED 

1185
00:37:17,602 --> 00:37:18,669
MAINTENANCE. IN MY MONTHLY RENT,

1186
00:37:18,669 --> 00:37:20,705
I CAN MAKE THE CHOICE TO NOT BE 

1187
00:37:20,705 --> 00:37:22,573
A PET OWNER AND THEREFORE NOT 

1188
00:37:22,573 --> 00:37:24,041
PAY THE COSTS OF PET OWNERSHIP. 

1189
00:37:24,041 --> 00:37:26,277
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 

1190
00:37:26,277 --> 00:37:31,515
-- NEXT WE HAVE AMY DAMANI, 

1191
00:37:31,515 --> 00:37:39,457
FOLLOWED BY BRADLEY DOUCHE. 

1192
00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:50,067
AMY, IF YOU CAN PRESS STAR SIX, 

1193
00:37:51,869 --> 00:38:01,479
YOU SHOULD BE UNMUTED. ALL 

1194
00:38:01,479 --> 00:38:02,680
RIGHT, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK. WE'LL

1195
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,715
NEXT GO TO BRADLEY DOUCHE AND 

1196
00:38:04,715 --> 00:38:15,059
THEN ETHAN STEGER. 

1197
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:19,864
BRADLEY, IF YOU PRESS STAR SIX, 

1198
00:38:19,864 --> 00:38:30,374
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE. 

1199
00:38:31,409 --> 00:38:36,347
OKAY. WE'LL, NEXT JUMP DOWN TO 

1200
00:38:36,347 --> 00:38:37,481
ETHAN AND CIRCLE BACK FOR AMY 

1201
00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:40,685
AND BRADLEY. ETHAN STEGER, 

1202
00:38:40,685 --> 00:38:51,095
FOLLOWED BY LUANA REID. 

1203
00:38:51,529 --> 00:39:01,972
ETHAN, ARE YOU ABLE TO PRESS 

1204
00:39:03,941 --> 00:39:05,142
STAR SIX? I HOPE WE'RE NOT 

1205
00:39:05,142 --> 00:39:10,915
HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. 

1206
00:39:10,915 --> 00:39:13,584
-- GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL. MY 

1207
00:39:13,584 --> 00:39:14,251
NAME IS ETHAN AND I'M A SEATTLE

1208
00:39:14,251 --> 00:39:16,687
RENTER. THANK YOU FOR GATHERING 

1209
00:39:16,687 --> 00:39:17,321
TODAY FOR US ALL TO DISCUSS THE 

1210
00:39:17,321 --> 00:39:18,656
BILL TO BAN JUNK FEES. I'M PROUD

1211
00:39:18,656 --> 00:39:19,890
TO SUPPORT THIS BILL THAT 

1212
00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:20,991
PROTECTS RENTERS. THE MAJORITY 

1213
00:39:20,991 --> 00:39:24,228
OF SEATTLE AND PROVIDES THE MORE

1214
00:39:24,228 --> 00:39:25,362
FINANCIAL FREEDOM AND OPTIONS IN

1215
00:39:25,362 --> 00:39:26,364
HOUSING. WHEN CONSIDERING THIS 

1216
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:27,765
BILL, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK 

1217
00:39:27,765 --> 00:39:28,699
ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF RENTERS 

1218
00:39:28,699 --> 00:39:30,334
THAT ARE PREYED UPON BY THESE 

1219
00:39:30,334 --> 00:39:31,635
FEES AND HOW YOU COULD EASE 

1220
00:39:31,635 --> 00:39:33,404
THEIR LIVES AND FEELINGS OF 

1221
00:39:33,404 --> 00:39:34,438
HOUSING INSECURITY BY PASSING 

1222
00:39:34,438 --> 00:39:36,474
THIS BILL WITH NO WEAKENING 

1223
00:39:36,474 --> 00:39:39,777
AMENDMENTS, AND JUNK FEES. THANK

1224
00:39:39,777 --> 00:39:39,977
YOU. 

1225
00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:41,879
-- NEXT WE HAVE LUANA, AND THEN 

1226
00:39:41,879 --> 00:39:45,349
WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO AMY 

1227
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:52,156
DAMANI. 

1228
00:39:52,156 --> 00:39:53,791
-- HI THERE. MY NAME IS TAWANNA 

1229
00:39:53,791 --> 00:39:55,126
REED AND I'M WITH THE TIMOTHY 

1230
00:39:55,126 --> 00:39:56,227
UNIT, WASHINGTON STATE IN 

1231
00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:57,828
SUPPORT OF THE JUNK FEE 

1232
00:39:57,828 --> 00:39:58,429
ORDINANCE WITH AMENDMENTS ONE 

1233
00:39:58,429 --> 00:39:59,864
AND TWO. AND I'M HERE TODAY ON 

1234
00:39:59,864 --> 00:40:02,199
BEHALF OF THE THOUSANDS OF 

1235
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:02,800
TENANTS WHO CONTACT ADVOCATES 

1236
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,368
BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING EVICTED 

1237
00:40:04,368 --> 00:40:05,035
AND CAN'T BECAUSE THEY CAN'T 

1238
00:40:05,035 --> 00:40:06,937
AFFORD THE RENT, AND ALSO JUNK 

1239
00:40:06,937 --> 00:40:09,440
FEES. EVERY SINGLE DAY, TENANTS 

1240
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,374
CONTACT US ALREADY STRUGGLING TO

1241
00:40:10,374 --> 00:40:11,842
KEEP UP. WHAT MAKES IT EVEN 

1242
00:40:11,842 --> 00:40:13,844
HARDER IS THE UNEXPECTED FEES 

1243
00:40:13,844 --> 00:40:15,379
THAT PEOPLE MOVE IN OR 

1244
00:40:15,379 --> 00:40:17,648
THROUGHOUT THE TENANCY PACKAGE 

1245
00:40:17,648 --> 00:40:18,682
FEES, PAYMENT PROCESSING FEES, 

1246
00:40:18,682 --> 00:40:21,786
VALET FEES, PAYMENT FEES SLAP 

1247
00:40:21,786 --> 00:40:23,254
YOUR MOM FEES, WHATEVER THE FEE 

1248
00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:25,389
IS. LET'S BE HONEST, LANDLORDS 

1249
00:40:25,389 --> 00:40:26,690
OPERATE AS A BUSINESS, YET THEY 

1250
00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:28,793
DO NOT PAY TAXES LIKE 

1251
00:40:28,793 --> 00:40:30,161
BUSINESSES. SO THE RENT ON THE 

1252
00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:31,695
RENT THEY COLLECT, THEY'RE 

1253
00:40:31,695 --> 00:40:32,696
CURRENTLY PERMITTED TO CHARGE 

1254
00:40:32,696 --> 00:40:36,100
WHATEVER THEY WANT TO PROFIT. 

1255
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:36,734
TENANTS. THE CONSUMERS NEED TO 

1256
00:40:36,734 --> 00:40:38,102
BE PROTECTED. A UNIT ADVERTISED 

1257
00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:39,403
AT ONE PRICE ENDS UP COSTING 

1258
00:40:39,403 --> 00:40:41,539
HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS MORE EACH 

1259
00:40:41,539 --> 00:40:42,907
MONTH. THESE CHARGES ARE NOT 

1260
00:40:42,907 --> 00:40:44,308
ABOUT IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF 

1261
00:40:44,308 --> 00:40:45,810
LIVING. THEY'RE ABOUT INCREASING

1262
00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:48,078
PROFITS. I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU

1263
00:40:48,078 --> 00:40:48,813
TO PASS THIS TO VOTE YES ON THIS

1264
00:40:48,813 --> 00:40:50,714
ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. 

1265
00:40:50,714 --> 00:40:53,384
-- ALL RIGHT. WELL, AMY DOMANI 

1266
00:40:53,384 --> 00:41:03,861
AND THEN BRADLY DOSS AGAIN. 

1267
00:41:06,363 --> 00:41:12,169
-- HELLO., I LIVE IN PEOPLE WHO 

1268
00:41:12,169 --> 00:41:13,838
RENT ARE NOT CONSUMERS. 

1269
00:41:13,838 --> 00:41:14,538
-- CUTTING OUT WILL RESTART YOUR

1270
00:41:14,538 --> 00:41:14,738
TIME. 

1271
00:41:14,738 --> 00:41:17,374
-- SHOULD 

1272
00:41:17,374 --> 00:41:27,751
-- ALL RIGHT. GO FOR IT. 

1273
00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:33,424
-- HI, I'M AMY FROM NEW 

1274
00:41:33,424 --> 00:41:37,061
DISTRICT. I WANT TO BE CLEAR 

1275
00:41:37,061 --> 00:41:40,464
THAT, CONSUMERS ARE FOR 

1276
00:41:40,464 --> 00:41:41,265
BUSINESSES AND RENTING A HOUSE. 

1277
00:41:41,265 --> 00:41:44,368
HAVING A HOME IS NOT A BUSINESS.

1278
00:41:44,368 --> 00:41:46,537
WE'RE JUST PEOPLE TRYING TO 

1279
00:41:46,537 --> 00:41:49,006
MAKE A LIVING AND HAVING HIDDEN 

1280
00:41:49,006 --> 00:41:50,674
RENTAL FEES ADD UP IN SUCH A WAY

1281
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:54,144
THAT IT CAN BE BETWEEN PEOPLE 

1282
00:41:54,144 --> 00:41:55,145
HAVING A HOME AND A PLACE TO 

1283
00:41:55,145 --> 00:41:57,581
SLEEP AND A PLACE TO EAT, VERSUS

1284
00:41:57,581 --> 00:42:00,885
BEING ON THE STREET. SO I'M HERE

1285
00:42:00,885 --> 00:42:04,455
TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR BANNING,

1286
00:42:04,455 --> 00:42:07,258
RENT, JUNK FEES. AND IN 

1287
00:42:07,258 --> 00:42:07,892
ADDITION, I KNOW THIS IS NOT 

1288
00:42:07,892 --> 00:42:11,362
ABOUT RUBS, BUT RUBS, UTILITY 

1289
00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:13,764
BILLING IS THE SAME CONCEPT, 

1290
00:42:13,764 --> 00:42:14,932
SAME PRINCIPLE BEING CHARGED AN 

1291
00:42:14,932 --> 00:42:17,801
UNKNOWN AMOUNT OF MONEY EACH 

1292
00:42:17,801 --> 00:42:19,570
MONTH WITH QUITE A STICKER 

1293
00:42:19,570 --> 00:42:20,804
SHOCK. AND IF YOU DON'T FIGHT 

1294
00:42:20,804 --> 00:42:22,206
AGAINST ONE THING, IT'S JUST 

1295
00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:24,575
GOING TO KEEP PILING UP. SO 

1296
00:42:24,575 --> 00:42:26,744
PLEASE FIGHT FOR SEATTLE 

1297
00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:27,177
RENTERS. THANK YOU. 

1298
00:42:27,177 --> 00:42:31,782
-- THANK YOU. AND OUR FINAL 

1299
00:42:31,782 --> 00:42:36,887
SPEAKER IS BRADLEY DOUCHE. 

1300
00:42:36,887 --> 00:42:38,188
-- HELLO, MY NAME IS BRADLEY 

1301
00:42:38,188 --> 00:42:41,191
DOSH I'M A MENTOR IN CAPITOL 

1302
00:42:41,191 --> 00:42:43,494
HILL, AND I'M SPEAKING IN 

1303
00:42:43,494 --> 00:42:46,664
SUPPORT OF BANNING JUNK FEES., I

1304
00:42:46,664 --> 00:42:48,465
PAY THE WATER BILL EVERY MONTH 

1305
00:42:48,465 --> 00:42:51,101
IN MY APARTMENT HERE, AND JUST A

1306
00:42:51,101 --> 00:42:52,736
FEW MONTHS AGO, I RECEIVED 

1307
00:42:52,736 --> 00:42:54,738
NOTICE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO 

1308
00:42:54,738 --> 00:42:57,875
SHUT THE WATER OFF FROM SEATTLE 

1309
00:42:57,875 --> 00:43:00,311
PUBLIC UTILITIES. THAT WAS 

1310
00:43:00,311 --> 00:43:02,212
INFURIATING BECAUSE, WE PAY THAT

1311
00:43:02,212 --> 00:43:03,981
BILL EVERY MONTH. AND CLEARLY 

1312
00:43:03,981 --> 00:43:06,216
OUR MANAGEMENT WAS NOT PAYING 

1313
00:43:06,216 --> 00:43:09,787
THE WATER BILL WITH THAT. AND I 

1314
00:43:09,787 --> 00:43:11,055
THINK WE ALL SUSPECT THAT 

1315
00:43:11,055 --> 00:43:11,655
SIMILAR THINGS ARE HAPPENING 

1316
00:43:11,655 --> 00:43:13,590
WITH OTHER BILLS. AND THAT, 

1317
00:43:13,590 --> 00:43:16,093
AGAIN, IS NOT ACTUALLY ABOUT 

1318
00:43:16,093 --> 00:43:17,361
CHARGING TRUE COSTS THAT THE 

1319
00:43:17,361 --> 00:43:19,496
BUILDING OWNER HAS, BUT RATHER 

1320
00:43:19,496 --> 00:43:20,998
JUST TRYING TO SUCK MORE MONEY 

1321
00:43:20,998 --> 00:43:22,633
OUT OF TENANTS, OUT OF WORKING 

1322
00:43:22,633 --> 00:43:24,335
PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY 

1323
00:43:24,335 --> 00:43:25,669
STRUGGLING. SO, THANK YOU ALL 

1324
00:43:25,669 --> 00:43:26,737
FOR YOUR TIME AND PLEASE BAN 

1325
00:43:26,737 --> 00:43:31,508
JUNK JUICE. THANK YOU. 

1326
00:43:31,508 --> 00:43:34,078
-- ALL RIGHT., THAT IS THERE ARE

1327
00:43:34,078 --> 00:43:36,914
NO ADDITIONAL REGISTERED 

1328
00:43:36,914 --> 00:43:37,181
SPEAKERS. 

1329
00:43:37,181 --> 00:43:39,350
-- ALL RIGHT. FANTASTIC. THANK 

1330
00:43:39,350 --> 00:43:40,484
YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON

1331
00:43:40,484 --> 00:43:43,087
TO OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS, 

1332
00:43:43,087 --> 00:43:44,221
ITEM ONE. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE 

1333
00:43:44,221 --> 00:43:45,956
READ ITEM ONE INTO THE RECORD. 

1334
00:43:45,956 --> 00:43:46,957
-- AGENDA ITEM ONE COUNCIL BILL 

1335
00:43:46,957 --> 00:43:49,660
ONE, TWO, 1254. AN ORDINANCE 

1336
00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:52,229
RELATING TO RENTAL AGREEMENT 

1337
00:43:52,229 --> 00:43:53,364
REGULATION REQUIRING DISCLOSURE 

1338
00:43:53,364 --> 00:43:54,531
OF FEES. PROHIBITING AND 

1339
00:43:54,531 --> 00:43:57,001
LIMITING CERTAIN FEES, REQUIRING

1340
00:43:57,001 --> 00:44:00,070
RETENTION OF COMPLIANCE RECORDS.

1341
00:44:00,070 --> 00:44:00,571
EXPANDING INVESTIGATIVE 

1342
00:44:00,571 --> 00:44:01,438
AUTHORITY AND ESTABLISHING NEW 

1343
00:44:01,438 --> 00:44:07,678
ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS. AMENDING

1344
00:44:07,678 --> 00:44:11,615
SECTION 7.240207.240507.24060, 

1345
00:44:11,615 --> 00:44:13,584
7.24120 AND 7.24130 OF AND 

1346
00:44:13,584 --> 00:44:19,790
ADDING NEW SECTION 

1347
00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:24,061
7.240397.240407.240457.2, 

1348
00:44:24,061 --> 00:44:28,699
4.1707.24180, 7.24190, 7.2, 

1349
00:44:28,699 --> 00:44:34,638
4.200, 7.2, 4.210, 7.2, 4.220, 

1350
00:44:34,638 --> 00:44:38,409
7.24230 AND 7.24240 TO THE 

1351
00:44:38,409 --> 00:44:39,176
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE FOR 

1352
00:44:39,176 --> 00:44:42,646
BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND 

1353
00:44:42,646 --> 00:44:43,013
POSSIBLE VOTE. 

1354
00:44:43,013 --> 00:44:50,387
-- [APPLAUSE] [LAUGHTER] 

1355
00:44:50,387 --> 00:44:51,588
-- YOU ALL ARE TOO WONDERFUL. I 

1356
00:44:51,588 --> 00:44:52,222
WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SAY, CAN 

1357
00:44:52,222 --> 00:44:53,090
WE GIVE IT UP FOR THE CLERK? BUT

1358
00:44:53,090 --> 00:44:55,526
YOU ALREADY KNEW, SO THAT WAS 

1359
00:44:55,526 --> 00:44:56,360
GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO 

1360
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,563
MUCH, SAGE. ALL RIGHT. 

1361
00:44:59,563 --> 00:45:00,431
FANTASTIC. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO

1362
00:45:00,431 --> 00:45:01,699
HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TODAY. I'LL

1363
00:45:01,699 --> 00:45:03,133
BE SAVING MY KIND OF LONGER 

1364
00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:04,435
COMMENTS FOR THE END. SO I'LL 

1365
00:45:04,435 --> 00:45:07,871
JUST GET RIGHT ON INTO IT. I 

1366
00:45:07,871 --> 00:45:08,372
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE 

1367
00:45:08,372 --> 00:45:08,972
RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF COUNCIL 

1368
00:45:08,972 --> 00:45:10,774
BILL ONE TWO, 1254. IS THERE A 

1369
00:45:10,774 --> 00:45:11,909
SECOND? 

1370
00:45:11,909 --> 00:45:12,476
-- SECOND. 

1371
00:45:12,476 --> 00:45:13,744
-- ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU., SO 

1372
00:45:13,744 --> 00:45:15,012
FIRST, AS WE KNOW, THERE'S A FEW

1373
00:45:15,012 --> 00:45:16,647
AMENDMENTS. AND SO I WANT TO 

1374
00:45:16,647 --> 00:45:19,016
INVITE UP AND SHE'S ALREADY AT 

1375
00:45:19,016 --> 00:45:19,783
THE TABLE. H P HARPER FROM 

1376
00:45:19,783 --> 00:45:20,818
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF, WHO'S 

1377
00:45:20,818 --> 00:45:22,519
GOING TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF 

1378
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:23,053
THE FOUR AMENDMENTS BEING 

1379
00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:24,988
BROUGHT FORWARD AND WILL ANSWER 

1380
00:45:24,988 --> 00:45:26,523
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 

1381
00:45:26,523 --> 00:45:28,158
LEGISLATION. SO, COLLEAGUES, THE

1382
00:45:28,158 --> 00:45:28,792
PROCESS HERE IS GOING TO BE THAT

1383
00:45:28,792 --> 00:45:30,894
WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND VOTE

1384
00:45:30,894 --> 00:45:32,162
ON EACH AMENDMENT, ONE AT A 

1385
00:45:32,162 --> 00:45:34,598
TIME. SO DON'T HOLD YOUR 

1386
00:45:34,598 --> 00:45:35,566
QUESTIONS FOR LATER BECAUSE 

1387
00:45:35,566 --> 00:45:36,767
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE 

1388
00:45:36,767 --> 00:45:37,668
AMENDMENT, THEN VOTE ON THE 

1389
00:45:37,668 --> 00:45:39,870
AMENDMENT AND MOVE FORWARD. SO 

1390
00:45:39,870 --> 00:45:41,538
HP, ONCE YOU'RE READY, PLEASE 

1391
00:45:41,538 --> 00:45:42,773
INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GO AHEAD.

1392
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:45,843
-- HP HARPER CENTRAL STAFF. SO 

1393
00:45:45,843 --> 00:45:47,244
WE'LL START WITH AMENDMENT ONE.

1394
00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:47,878
-- OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER RINCK 

1395
00:45:47,878 --> 00:45:50,914
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR 

1396
00:45:50,914 --> 00:45:51,215
AMENDMENT? 

1397
00:45:51,215 --> 00:45:52,483
-- CERTAINLY. I MOVE TO AMEND 

1398
00:45:52,483 --> 00:45:54,518
THE BILL AS PRESENTED ON 

1399
00:45:54,518 --> 00:45:54,885
AMENDMENT ONE. 

1400
00:45:54,885 --> 00:45:55,486
-- SECOND. 

1401
00:45:55,486 --> 00:45:56,820
-- ALL RIGHT. IT HAS BEEN MOVED 

1402
00:45:56,820 --> 00:45:58,622
AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER 

1403
00:45:58,622 --> 00:45:59,823
RINCK AS SPONSOR OF THE 

1404
00:45:59,823 --> 00:46:00,757
AMENDMENT, I'LL INVITE YOU TO 

1405
00:46:00,757 --> 00:46:02,059
SPEAK TO. OH, WHOOPS. I'M 

1406
00:46:02,059 --> 00:46:02,860
SORRY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO 

1407
00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:04,027
GO OVER TO HB AND THEN I'M GOING

1408
00:46:04,027 --> 00:46:04,628
TO GO TO YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

1409
00:46:04,628 --> 00:46:07,364
RINCK. I APOLOGIZE. 

1410
00:46:07,364 --> 00:46:08,098
-- SO AMENDMENT ONE REQUIRES 

1411
00:46:08,098 --> 00:46:09,633
THAT WHEN OPTIONAL FEES ARE 

1412
00:46:09,633 --> 00:46:11,768
BUNDLED, EACH DISCRETE PORTION 

1413
00:46:11,768 --> 00:46:13,303
OF THAT BUNDLE SHALL ALSO BE 

1414
00:46:13,303 --> 00:46:15,572
SEPARATELY AVAILABLE. SO AS YOU 

1415
00:46:15,572 --> 00:46:17,174
MAY RECALL, THERE WERE THREE 

1416
00:46:17,174 --> 00:46:18,475
CATEGORIES OF FEES IN THE BILL. 

1417
00:46:18,475 --> 00:46:19,710
THOSE THAT ARE PERMITTED, THOSE 

1418
00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:21,578
THAT ARE PROHIBITED, AND THOSE 

1419
00:46:21,578 --> 00:46:23,981
THAT ARE OPTIONAL, THAT TENANTS 

1420
00:46:23,981 --> 00:46:25,015
CAN OPT INTO AFFIRMATIVELY ALL 

1421
00:46:25,015 --> 00:46:26,350
OF THOSE OPTIONAL FEES HAD TO 

1422
00:46:26,350 --> 00:46:30,020
MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS 

1423
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:32,489
RELATED TO DISCLOSURE, THE 

1424
00:46:32,489 --> 00:46:33,123
PROCESS BY WHICH OPTING OUT IS 

1425
00:46:33,123 --> 00:46:34,625
GIVEN TO THE TENANT WITH NO FEE,

1426
00:46:34,625 --> 00:46:37,027
ET CETERA. AND SO THIS WOULD ADD

1427
00:46:37,027 --> 00:46:38,529
A FURTHER REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE 

1428
00:46:38,529 --> 00:46:39,530
OPTIONAL FEES SUCH THAT IF 

1429
00:46:39,530 --> 00:46:41,331
THERE'S A BUNDLE OFFERED THAT 

1430
00:46:41,331 --> 00:46:42,666
THE LANDLORD SHALL MAKE EACH 

1431
00:46:42,666 --> 00:46:44,434
COMPONENT OF THE BUNDLE 

1432
00:46:44,434 --> 00:46:44,935
AVAILABLE SEPARATELY AS 

1433
00:46:44,935 --> 00:46:47,738
OPTIONAL, AS WELL. THANKS. 

1434
00:46:47,738 --> 00:46:48,739
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

1435
00:46:48,739 --> 00:46:51,008
RINCK YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. 

1436
00:46:51,008 --> 00:46:51,642
-- THANK YOU CHAIR FOSTER, AND 

1437
00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:53,076
THANK YOU FOR THE OVERVIEW. HB 

1438
00:46:53,076 --> 00:46:54,278
COLLEAGUES, THIS IS THE 

1439
00:46:54,278 --> 00:46:55,746
AMENDMENT THAT WE DISCUSSED 

1440
00:46:55,746 --> 00:46:56,680
DURING OUR LAST COMMITTEE 

1441
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,215
MEETING. WE HAVE NOT CHANGED IT 

1442
00:46:58,215 --> 00:47:00,150
IN ANY TYPE OF WAY JUST TO 

1443
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:02,352
AFFIRM THAT POINT. BUT I BROUGHT

1444
00:47:02,352 --> 00:47:04,421
THIS AMENDMENT FORWARD TODAY 

1445
00:47:04,421 --> 00:47:06,089
AFTER OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH 

1446
00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:07,224
TENANTS RIGHTS ADVOCATES, AS 

1447
00:47:07,224 --> 00:47:09,159
WELL AS THOSE WHO PROVIDE TENANT

1448
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:10,928
SUPPORT SERVICES AND LEGAL AID, 

1449
00:47:10,928 --> 00:47:13,230
I BELIEVE IT SERVES AS IMPORTANT

1450
00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:14,731
CLARIFICATION, BUT ALSO A 

1451
00:47:14,731 --> 00:47:17,134
CLOSURE OF A LOOPHOLE TO ENSURE 

1452
00:47:17,134 --> 00:47:19,836
THE JUNK FEES THAT WERE BANNING 

1453
00:47:19,836 --> 00:47:23,340
WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO RECEIVE

1454
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:24,641
A SERVICE THAT YOU MIGHT NEED 

1455
00:47:24,641 --> 00:47:26,643
THAT TO MANY IS VERY ESSENTIAL. 

1456
00:47:26,643 --> 00:47:28,111
SO WHILE BUNDLING ISN'T THE MOST

1457
00:47:28,111 --> 00:47:30,647
COMMON ISSUE THAT WE FACE TODAY,

1458
00:47:30,647 --> 00:47:33,016
I HAVE CONCERNS THAT IT WILL 

1459
00:47:33,016 --> 00:47:34,051
BECOME MORE FREQUENT., SO THIS 

1460
00:47:34,051 --> 00:47:35,552
IS THE REASON THAT I BROUGHT 

1461
00:47:35,552 --> 00:47:37,221
FORWARD THIS AMENDMENT. I WANT 

1462
00:47:37,221 --> 00:47:39,223
TO NOTE THAT SINCE OUR LAST 

1463
00:47:39,223 --> 00:47:40,157
COMMITTEE MEETING, I'VE HAD A 

1464
00:47:40,157 --> 00:47:42,426
CONVERSATION WITH INTERNET 

1465
00:47:42,426 --> 00:47:43,860
PROVIDERS SUCH AS COMCAST. WE 

1466
00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:44,728
HAD A PRODUCTIVE MEETING. THERE 

1467
00:47:44,728 --> 00:47:46,230
WERE NO MAJOR CONCERNS WITH THE 

1468
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:48,799
AMENDMENT., BY THE END OF THAT 

1469
00:47:48,799 --> 00:47:49,967
MEETING. AND SO I'M BRINGING IT

1470
00:47:49,967 --> 00:47:51,401
FORWARD TODAY AND I HOPE I HAVE 

1471
00:47:51,401 --> 00:47:53,770
YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU 

1472
00:47:53,770 --> 00:47:55,138
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

1473
00:47:55,138 --> 00:47:55,772
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK COLLEAGUES, 

1474
00:47:55,772 --> 00:47:57,107
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE 

1475
00:47:57,107 --> 00:48:02,312
WE VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT? OKAY.

1476
00:48:02,312 --> 00:48:04,014
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE 

1477
00:48:04,014 --> 00:48:06,884
ROLL ON THE ADOPTION OF 

1478
00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:10,587
AMENDMENT ONE? YES. 

1479
00:48:10,587 --> 00:48:11,255
-- COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. 

1480
00:48:11,255 --> 00:48:12,222
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. YES. VICE 

1481
00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:15,259
CHAIR. LIN. YES. CHAIR FOSTER. 

1482
00:48:15,259 --> 00:48:15,492
-- YES. 

1483
00:48:15,492 --> 00:48:16,493
-- CHAIR, THERE ARE FIVE VOTES 

1484
00:48:16,493 --> 00:48:18,629
IN FAVOR AND NONE OPPOSED. 

1485
00:48:18,629 --> 00:48:19,196
-- THE MOTION CARRIES AN 

1486
00:48:19,196 --> 00:48:21,632
AMENDMENT ONE IS ADOPTED., I 

1487
00:48:21,632 --> 00:48:23,834
WILL GO AHEAD BACK OVER TO HB 

1488
00:48:23,834 --> 00:48:26,637
FOR A DESCRIPTION OF AMENDMENT 

1489
00:48:26,637 --> 00:48:26,837
TWO. 

1490
00:48:26,837 --> 00:48:29,039
-- AMENDMENT TWO CLARIFIES 

1491
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:30,574
DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS. SO AS 

1492
00:48:30,574 --> 00:48:34,511
TRANSMITTED, THE DISCLOSURE 

1493
00:48:34,511 --> 00:48:35,112
REQUIREMENTS DIDN'T CLEARLY 

1494
00:48:35,112 --> 00:48:35,746
INCLUDE ESTIMATED UTILITY COSTS.

1495
00:48:35,746 --> 00:48:36,647
AND THERE WAS ALSO AMBIGUITY 

1496
00:48:36,647 --> 00:48:37,714
ABOUT TIME LIMITED DISCOUNTS. SO

1497
00:48:37,714 --> 00:48:39,349
FOR INSTANCE, FIRST MONTH FREE 

1498
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:41,551
OR FIRST TWO MONTHS FREE OF HOW 

1499
00:48:41,551 --> 00:48:43,587
THOSE WOULD BE DISCLOSED IN THAT

1500
00:48:43,587 --> 00:48:45,555
UPFRONT TOTAL MONTHLY COST. SO 

1501
00:48:45,555 --> 00:48:46,156
THIS AMENDMENT CLARIFIES THAT 

1502
00:48:46,156 --> 00:48:47,324
THOSE TIME LIMITED DISCOUNTS, 

1503
00:48:47,324 --> 00:48:48,992
FOR INSTANCE, SHOULD NOT BE 

1504
00:48:48,992 --> 00:48:50,227
AVERAGED OVER THE YEAR FOR 

1505
00:48:50,227 --> 00:48:52,696
MONTHLY COSTS. THEY SHOULD BE 

1506
00:48:52,696 --> 00:48:53,764
NOT INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL 

1507
00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:55,999
MONTHLY COST, BUT CLEARLY 

1508
00:48:55,999 --> 00:48:58,068
DISCLOSED SEPARATELY. AND IT 

1509
00:48:58,068 --> 00:48:58,635
ALSO CLARIFIES THAT UTILITY 

1510
00:48:58,635 --> 00:49:00,304
CHARGES SHOULD BE ESTIMATED, 

1511
00:49:00,304 --> 00:49:01,738
SIMILAR TO HOW VARIABLE FEES 

1512
00:49:01,738 --> 00:49:03,473
WERE PROPOSED TO BE ESTIMATED 

1513
00:49:03,473 --> 00:49:07,110
USING EITHER PAST INFORMATION OR

1514
00:49:07,110 --> 00:49:08,045
OTHER WAYS TO ESTIMATE THEM, AND

1515
00:49:08,045 --> 00:49:09,846
THOSE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT

1516
00:49:09,846 --> 00:49:13,817
TOTAL MONTHLY COST. AND FINALLY,

1517
00:49:13,817 --> 00:49:14,918
IT WAS LEFT SORT OF TO THE, TO 

1518
00:49:14,918 --> 00:49:16,420
THE VIEWER TO DECIDE WHETHER THE

1519
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:17,621
TOTAL MONTHLY COST SHOULD 

1520
00:49:17,621 --> 00:49:18,822
INCLUDE THOSE OPTIONAL FEES. SO 

1521
00:49:18,822 --> 00:49:20,290
AGAIN, IF THE TENANT HAS THE 

1522
00:49:20,290 --> 00:49:23,360
ABILITY TO OPT IN, THAT WOULD 

1523
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:23,994
CHANGE THEIR TOTAL MONTHLY COST.

1524
00:49:23,994 --> 00:49:26,029
AND IT WAS UNCLEAR IN THE DRAFT 

1525
00:49:26,029 --> 00:49:27,230
WHETHER OR NOT OPTIONAL FEES 

1526
00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:28,632
SHOULD BE IN ADDITION TO BEING 

1527
00:49:28,632 --> 00:49:30,167
DISCLOSED UPFRONT, ACTUALLY 

1528
00:49:30,167 --> 00:49:32,669
ADDED IN TO THAT TOTAL MONTHLY 

1529
00:49:32,669 --> 00:49:36,373
COST. SO THE AMENDMENT SPECIFIES

1530
00:49:36,373 --> 00:49:37,574
THAT AVERAGE SORRY, THAT 

1531
00:49:37,574 --> 00:49:39,509
OPTIONAL FEES WOULD NOT BE 

1532
00:49:39,509 --> 00:49:40,444
INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL MONTHLY 

1533
00:49:40,444 --> 00:49:42,145
COST, BECAUSE THEY ARE ONLY IF 

1534
00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:44,314
THE TENANT CHOOSES TO OPT IN. SO

1535
00:49:44,314 --> 00:49:46,750
I THINK THAT THAT ENCOMPASSES 

1536
00:49:46,750 --> 00:49:47,284
THE VARIOUS PIECES OF THE 

1537
00:49:47,284 --> 00:49:48,518
PUZZLE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK 

1538
00:49:48,518 --> 00:49:49,820
TO IT. IF FOLKS HAVE ANY 

1539
00:49:49,820 --> 00:49:52,055
QUESTIONS. 

1540
00:49:52,055 --> 00:49:53,223
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I'LL 

1541
00:49:53,223 --> 00:49:54,825
PAUSE TO SEE IF THERE ARE 

1542
00:49:54,825 --> 00:50:00,230
QUESTIONS FOR HB. AND I ACTUALLY

1543
00:50:00,230 --> 00:50:02,232
NEED TO DO MY JOB AND SAY I MOVE

1544
00:50:02,232 --> 00:50:03,000
TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL ONE, TWO, 

1545
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,768
ONE, TWO, FIVE, FOUR AS 

1546
00:50:04,768 --> 00:50:06,236
PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT TWO, 

1547
00:50:06,236 --> 00:50:07,771
VERSION TWO AS DISTRIBUTED VIA 

1548
00:50:07,771 --> 00:50:09,106
EMAIL. IS THERE A SECOND? 

1549
00:50:09,106 --> 00:50:09,973
-- SECOND. 

1550
00:50:09,973 --> 00:50:11,608
-- IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND 

1551
00:50:11,608 --> 00:50:12,242
SECONDED TO AMEND THE BILL. I DO

1552
00:50:12,242 --> 00:50:13,410
WANT TO CLARIFY, COLLEAGUES, 

1553
00:50:13,410 --> 00:50:14,911
THAT A TECHNICAL CHANGE WAS MADE

1554
00:50:14,911 --> 00:50:17,180
FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES TO 

1555
00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:19,016
AGENDA TWO AFTER THE AGENDA WAS 

1556
00:50:19,016 --> 00:50:19,516
PUBLISHED, STATING THAT 

1557
00:50:19,516 --> 00:50:23,353
DISCLOSURE UNDER THIS SECTION 

1558
00:50:23,353 --> 00:50:26,723
7.2, 4.039 IS DISTINCT FROM 

1559
00:50:26,723 --> 00:50:27,290
DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS. IN 

1560
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:28,792
CHAPTER 7.25, THE UPDATED 

1561
00:50:28,792 --> 00:50:31,661
VERSION WAS EMAILED TO 

1562
00:50:31,661 --> 00:50:32,529
COUNCILMEMBERS, 24 HOURS IN 

1563
00:50:32,529 --> 00:50:33,964
ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, AND WE 

1564
00:50:33,964 --> 00:50:35,732
WILL BE UPDATING THE AGENDA WITH

1565
00:50:35,732 --> 00:50:36,366
THE NEW CORRECTED VERSION AFTER 

1566
00:50:36,366 --> 00:50:39,202
THIS MEETING., HAVING SAID THAT,

1567
00:50:39,202 --> 00:50:39,870
THE INTENT OF THIS AND THANK YOU

1568
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:41,872
FOR THAT. HB IS TO PROVIDE 

1569
00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:44,574
CLARITY THAT TENANTS AND TO BOTH

1570
00:50:44,574 --> 00:50:46,877
TENANTS AND LANDLORDS ABOUT THE 

1571
00:50:46,877 --> 00:50:47,511
DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS OF THE 

1572
00:50:47,511 --> 00:50:48,612
BILL AND IN PARTICULAR, TO MAKE 

1573
00:50:48,612 --> 00:50:50,547
SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING

1574
00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:52,349
THE TOTAL MONTHLY COST TO BE 

1575
00:50:52,349 --> 00:50:53,750
PAID BY THE TENANT, THAT WE HAVE

1576
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:55,218
CLARITY ACROSS THE BOARD ON WHAT

1577
00:50:55,218 --> 00:50:56,520
THAT IS TO INCLUDE, BECAUSE A 

1578
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,988
BIG PART OF THIS LEGISLATION IS 

1579
00:50:57,988 --> 00:51:01,625
TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE CLEAR AND

1580
00:51:01,625 --> 00:51:03,093
TRANSPARENT AND COMPARABLE FEES.

1581
00:51:03,093 --> 00:51:03,660
SO I BELIEVE THIS AMENDMENT 

1582
00:51:03,660 --> 00:51:06,630
MOVES US CLOSER TO THAT. AND 

1583
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:07,230
THANK YOU TO THE STAKEHOLDERS 

1584
00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:10,634
WHO PROVIDED THEIR INPUT ON THIS

1585
00:51:10,634 --> 00:51:11,268
AMENDMENT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS

1586
00:51:11,268 --> 00:51:15,138
ON AMENDMENT TWO? OKAY. WILL THE

1587
00:51:15,138 --> 00:51:17,541
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 

1588
00:51:17,541 --> 00:51:19,509
THE ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT TWO? 

1589
00:51:19,509 --> 00:51:19,976
-- COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

1590
00:51:19,976 --> 00:51:22,779
HOLLINGSWORTH. YES. 

1591
00:51:22,779 --> 00:51:23,246
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. 

1592
00:51:23,246 --> 00:51:24,047
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. YES. VICE 

1593
00:51:24,047 --> 00:51:26,650
CHAIR. LIN. YES. CHAIR FOSTER. 

1594
00:51:26,650 --> 00:51:27,751
YES, CHAIR, THERE ARE FIVE VOTES

1595
00:51:27,751 --> 00:51:29,352
IN FAVOR AND NONE OPPOSED. 

1596
00:51:29,352 --> 00:51:32,856
-- OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES., WE

1597
00:51:32,856 --> 00:51:35,258
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO AMENDMENT 

1598
00:51:35,258 --> 00:51:36,827
THREE, AND I'M GOING TO FIRST 

1599
00:51:36,827 --> 00:51:38,728
MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL ONE 

1600
00:51:38,728 --> 00:51:40,163
TWO, ONE, TWO, FIVE FOUR AS 

1601
00:51:40,163 --> 00:51:41,865
PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT THREE. IS

1602
00:51:41,865 --> 00:51:43,400
THERE A SECOND? 

1603
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:43,733
-- SECOND. 

1604
00:51:43,733 --> 00:51:45,368
-- OKAY. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND 

1605
00:51:45,368 --> 00:51:47,537
SECONDED. HB PLEASE DESCRIBE 

1606
00:51:47,537 --> 00:51:49,039
AMENDMENT THREE. 

1607
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:51,341
-- SURE. SO AMENDMENT THREE 

1608
00:51:51,341 --> 00:51:53,143
RELATES TO AN EXISTING, AMOUNT 

1609
00:51:53,143 --> 00:51:55,345
OF DISCRETION THAT IS AFFORDED 

1610
00:51:55,345 --> 00:51:55,946
TO THE SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF 

1611
00:51:55,946 --> 00:51:57,714
CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS RELATED

1612
00:51:57,714 --> 00:51:59,883
TO VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. SO THE 

1613
00:51:59,883 --> 00:52:02,552
BILL AND ASIDE FROM THE BILL, 

1614
00:52:02,552 --> 00:52:03,987
EVEN EXISTING REGULATIONS, BUT 

1615
00:52:03,987 --> 00:52:05,722
ALSO WITH THE PROPOSED BILL, 

1616
00:52:05,722 --> 00:52:08,692
THERE'S A WIDE RUNWAY FOR SDCI 

1617
00:52:08,692 --> 00:52:11,194
TO, TAKE ACTIONS BEFORE THEY 

1618
00:52:11,194 --> 00:52:11,828
TAKE FORMAL ENFORCEMENT ACTION. 

1619
00:52:11,828 --> 00:52:15,132
SO THERE'S ALREADY CODIFIED AN 

1620
00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:15,765
ABILITY TO ISSUE A WARNING AND 

1621
00:52:15,765 --> 00:52:18,001
TO WORK WITH LANDLORDS TO GET 

1622
00:52:18,001 --> 00:52:18,602
INTO COMPLIANCE BEFORE GOING 

1623
00:52:18,602 --> 00:52:19,903
DOWN THOSE FORMAL PATHS. 

1624
00:52:19,903 --> 00:52:21,671
ENFORCEMENT WHERE THEY HAVE 

1625
00:52:21,671 --> 00:52:22,372
CITATIONS AND PENALTIES, ET 

1626
00:52:22,372 --> 00:52:24,574
CETERA.. SO THIS AMENDMENT 

1627
00:52:24,574 --> 00:52:25,775
CODIFIES THAT DISCRETION THAT 

1628
00:52:25,775 --> 00:52:27,644
THE DIRECTOR HAS IN 

1629
00:52:27,644 --> 00:52:28,278
ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT 

1630
00:52:28,278 --> 00:52:30,013
TO TO BRING LANDLORDS INTO 

1631
00:52:30,013 --> 00:52:31,348
COMPLIANCE, BUT ALSO GIVES 

1632
00:52:31,348 --> 00:52:34,017
CLARITY TO TENANTS REGARDING 

1633
00:52:34,017 --> 00:52:35,252
REIMBURSEMENT, WHICH WOULD 

1634
00:52:35,252 --> 00:52:37,454
LIKELY BE EXPEDITED UNDER THIS 

1635
00:52:37,454 --> 00:52:39,823
AMENDMENT. SO,, IT'S IMPORTANT 

1636
00:52:39,823 --> 00:52:40,757
THAT THIS DISCRETION EXISTS 

1637
00:52:40,757 --> 00:52:42,125
BECAUSE OF THE NEED TO BE SORT 

1638
00:52:42,125 --> 00:52:43,493
OF EFFICIENT AND STRATEGIC WITH 

1639
00:52:43,493 --> 00:52:46,663
RESOURCES. IF SDCI HAD TO PURSUE

1640
00:52:46,663 --> 00:52:47,230
FORMAL ENFORCEMENT IN EVERY 

1641
00:52:47,230 --> 00:52:48,431
SINGLE COMPLAINT, IT WOULD 

1642
00:52:48,431 --> 00:52:50,233
LIKELY WAY SLOW DOWN THEIR 

1643
00:52:50,233 --> 00:52:52,802
ABILITY TO ENFORCE, PARTICULARLY

1644
00:52:52,802 --> 00:52:56,640
RELATED TO SORT OF BAD ACTORS. 

1645
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,041
AND SO UNDER THE EXISTING SORT 

1646
00:52:58,041 --> 00:52:59,409
OF PRACTICE AS WELL AS UNDER THE

1647
00:52:59,409 --> 00:53:01,511
BILL, THEY DO HAVE THIS ABILITY 

1648
00:53:01,511 --> 00:53:04,314
TO DECIDE WHEN TO ACTUALLY BEGIN

1649
00:53:04,314 --> 00:53:05,682
ENFORCEMENT. AND THEY ARE 

1650
00:53:05,682 --> 00:53:07,751
DIRECTED IN THE BILL TO CREATE A

1651
00:53:07,751 --> 00:53:09,286
DIRECTOR'S ROLE REGARDING WHEN 

1652
00:53:09,286 --> 00:53:11,354
THEY WILL INITIATE 

1653
00:53:11,354 --> 00:53:13,023
INVESTIGATIONS. SO THAT'S REALLY

1654
00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,592
A WIDE OPEN AREA WHERE THEY,, 

1655
00:53:15,592 --> 00:53:17,093
YOU KNOW, WILL PUBLISH SOMETHING

1656
00:53:17,093 --> 00:53:18,795
THAT GIVES CLARITY ON WHEN THEY 

1657
00:53:18,795 --> 00:53:19,930
PURSUE INVESTIGATIONS BECAUSE 

1658
00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:20,964
THEY SIMPLY WOULD NOT HAVE THE 

1659
00:53:20,964 --> 00:53:23,333
RESOURCES TO DO IT IN EVERY 

1660
00:53:23,333 --> 00:53:25,769
INSTANCE. SO THIS AMENDMENT 

1661
00:53:25,769 --> 00:53:26,369
REALLY WRITES DOWN SOMETHING 

1662
00:53:26,369 --> 00:53:27,304
THAT ALREADY EXISTS TODAY, AND 

1663
00:53:27,304 --> 00:53:27,904
THAT IS PROPOSED TO CONTINUE 

1664
00:53:27,904 --> 00:53:29,973
UNDER THE BILL WHERE PRIOR TO 

1665
00:53:29,973 --> 00:53:31,508
PURSUING THOSE FORMAL AVENUES, 

1666
00:53:31,508 --> 00:53:32,576
THE DIRECTOR SEEKS VOLUNTARY 

1667
00:53:32,576 --> 00:53:34,978
COMPLIANCE. AND WHAT IT DOES IS 

1668
00:53:34,978 --> 00:53:35,879
IT SPECIFIES THAT THAT SHALL 

1669
00:53:35,879 --> 00:53:36,980
INCLUDE, AT A MINIMUM, FULL 

1670
00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:38,315
REIMBURSEMENT TO TENANTS PLUS 

1671
00:53:38,315 --> 00:53:39,816
INTEREST, WHICH IS CURRENTLY, I 

1672
00:53:39,816 --> 00:53:41,051
THINK, THE PRACTICE, BUT IT'S 

1673
00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:42,986
NOT WRITTEN DOWN. AND SO THERE 

1674
00:53:42,986 --> 00:53:44,788
MIGHT BE A LACK OF CLARITY FOR 

1675
00:53:44,788 --> 00:53:46,323
TENANTS AND LANDLORDS WITHOUT 

1676
00:53:46,323 --> 00:53:48,224
THAT, IN, IN CODE. AND SO 

1677
00:53:48,224 --> 00:53:49,693
THAT'S WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES.

1678
00:53:49,693 --> 00:53:50,527
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'LL

1679
00:53:50,527 --> 00:53:51,761
SPEAK TO THIS BRIEFLY. I KNOW WE

1680
00:53:51,761 --> 00:53:54,164
HEARD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS 

1681
00:53:54,164 --> 00:53:54,965
EARLIER TODAY. AND I WANT TO 

1682
00:53:54,965 --> 00:53:55,599
JUST ACTUALLY, BEFORE I SPEAK, 

1683
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:58,101
I'LL JUST SAY, CAN YOU JUST 

1684
00:53:58,101 --> 00:54:00,270
REPEAT FOR US, THIS IS AN 

1685
00:54:00,270 --> 00:54:00,837
EXISTING AUTHORITY THAT THE 

1686
00:54:00,837 --> 00:54:01,705
DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS. 

1687
00:54:01,705 --> 00:54:03,673
-- YES. UNDER THE EXISTING 

1688
00:54:03,673 --> 00:54:05,075
REGULATIONS AS WELL AS UNDER THE

1689
00:54:05,075 --> 00:54:07,110
PROPOSED REGULATIONS THAT ARE 

1690
00:54:07,110 --> 00:54:08,545
TRANSMITTED AS PART OF THE 

1691
00:54:08,545 --> 00:54:10,213
LEGISLATION. SO WHETHER OR NOT 

1692
00:54:10,213 --> 00:54:11,581
THIS AMENDMENT GOES FORWARD, 

1693
00:54:11,581 --> 00:54:12,082
THIS AUTHORITY EXISTS. 

1694
00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:13,550
-- OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND

1695
00:54:13,550 --> 00:54:14,551
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS 

1696
00:54:14,551 --> 00:54:16,453
REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME WAS TO BE

1697
00:54:16,453 --> 00:54:18,054
ABLE TO CLARIFY WHAT A TENANT IS

1698
00:54:18,054 --> 00:54:20,857
ENTITLED TO. IF THERE IS 

1699
00:54:20,857 --> 00:54:23,827
VOLUNTARY EXCUSE ME, IF SDCI 

1700
00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:25,495
SEEKS TO, OBTAIN VOLUNTARY 

1701
00:54:25,495 --> 00:54:27,230
COMPLIANCE. SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO 

1702
00:54:27,230 --> 00:54:27,764
THAT SECOND HALF OF THIS 

1703
00:54:27,764 --> 00:54:28,965
AMENDMENT ONE MORE TIME? AND 

1704
00:54:28,965 --> 00:54:31,101
WHAT WE'RE CLARIFYING THERE, 

1705
00:54:31,101 --> 00:54:31,334
RIGHT? 

1706
00:54:31,334 --> 00:54:32,669
-- SO A REIMBURSEMENT TO THE 

1707
00:54:32,669 --> 00:54:34,404
TENANTS PLUS INTEREST FOR ANY 

1708
00:54:34,404 --> 00:54:35,739
UNAUTHORIZED FEE OR CHARGES. AND

1709
00:54:35,739 --> 00:54:37,173
SO I THINK THE IDEA HERE IS THAT

1710
00:54:37,173 --> 00:54:38,642
IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION IN WHICH

1711
00:54:38,642 --> 00:54:40,477
A LANDLORD IS UNAWARE THAT THEY 

1712
00:54:40,477 --> 00:54:41,945
HAVE BEEN IN VIOLATION, YOU 

1713
00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:44,614
KNOW, SDCI TRIES TO WORK WITH 

1714
00:54:44,614 --> 00:54:45,215
LANDLORDS TO FIRST MAKE SURE 

1715
00:54:45,215 --> 00:54:46,516
THAT THEY ARE AWARE AND THEY DO 

1716
00:54:46,516 --> 00:54:47,484
A LOT OF OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, TO,

1717
00:54:47,484 --> 00:54:50,553
TO TRY TO GET LANDLORDS IN THE 

1718
00:54:50,553 --> 00:54:51,154
LOOP ON ALL REGULATIONS. BUT 

1719
00:54:51,154 --> 00:54:52,355
THIS MAKES SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR

1720
00:54:52,355 --> 00:54:53,323
THAT THEY DO HAVE TO PAY THE 

1721
00:54:53,323 --> 00:54:54,891
TENANTS BACK PLUS INTEREST IF 

1722
00:54:54,891 --> 00:54:56,393
THEY DISCOVER THAT THEY HAVE 

1723
00:54:56,393 --> 00:54:57,727
BEEN IN VIOLATION OF THE 

1724
00:54:57,727 --> 00:55:00,063
CHAPTER. AND IF SDCI HAS NOT YET

1725
00:55:00,063 --> 00:55:01,965
PURSUED FORMAL ENFORCEMENT. 

1726
00:55:01,965 --> 00:55:02,999
-- THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WITH 

1727
00:55:02,999 --> 00:55:04,100
THAT, I WANT TO SPEAK TO WHY I 

1728
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:05,635
THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO 

1729
00:55:05,635 --> 00:55:07,037
BRING THIS FORWARD. SO ONE IS HB

1730
00:55:07,037 --> 00:55:09,439
HAS ALREADY SAID THIS AMENDMENT 

1731
00:55:09,439 --> 00:55:10,607
CODIFIES EXISTING DISCRETION AND

1732
00:55:10,607 --> 00:55:12,008
IT LIFTS IT UP IN THIS IN THIS 

1733
00:55:12,008 --> 00:55:13,276
PIECE OF LEGISLATION, SO THAT WE

1734
00:55:13,276 --> 00:55:17,347
CAN CLARIFY, THE, WHAT SDCI IS 

1735
00:55:17,347 --> 00:55:18,548
GOING TO SEEK WHEN THEY ARE 

1736
00:55:18,548 --> 00:55:20,483
GOING THROUGH THE VOLUNTARY 

1737
00:55:20,483 --> 00:55:22,052
COMPLIANCE PROCESS SO THAT WE 

1738
00:55:22,052 --> 00:55:23,486
KNOW AND WE HAVE CLARITY FROM 

1739
00:55:23,486 --> 00:55:24,054
THE DEPARTMENT WITH THEIR 

1740
00:55:24,054 --> 00:55:25,422
EXISTING PRACTICE, AND THAT WE 

1741
00:55:25,422 --> 00:55:27,257
HAVE TRANSPARENCY WITH THE 

1742
00:55:27,257 --> 00:55:28,892
PUBLIC AROUND WHAT THAT EXISTING

1743
00:55:28,892 --> 00:55:30,293
PRACTICE IS. SO WITHOUT THIS 

1744
00:55:30,293 --> 00:55:31,327
AMENDMENT, THAT PRACTICE WOULD 

1745
00:55:31,327 --> 00:55:33,997
BE IN PLACE, BUT WE WOULD NOT 

1746
00:55:33,997 --> 00:55:36,066
HAVE CLARIFIED AND CODIFIED WHAT

1747
00:55:36,066 --> 00:55:38,001
THE STANDARD IS THAT WE HAVE FOR

1748
00:55:38,001 --> 00:55:40,203
SDCI WHEN IT COMES TO RECOUPING 

1749
00:55:40,203 --> 00:55:42,672
ANY OF THE FEES THAT TENANTS 

1750
00:55:42,672 --> 00:55:43,773
HAVE INCORRECTLY PAID WHEN THEY 

1751
00:55:43,773 --> 00:55:45,542
ARE GOING THROUGH VOLUNTARY 

1752
00:55:45,542 --> 00:55:46,543
COMPLIANCE. SO THIS SAYS YOU ARE

1753
00:55:46,543 --> 00:55:48,778
ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO DO 

1754
00:55:48,778 --> 00:55:49,946
VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. AND HERE 

1755
00:55:49,946 --> 00:55:51,715
IS A MINIMUM FOR THE DEPARTMENT 

1756
00:55:51,715 --> 00:55:53,483
TO SEEK. WHEN THEY DO USE THE 

1757
00:55:53,483 --> 00:55:55,318
VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE STANDARD. 

1758
00:55:55,318 --> 00:55:56,453
SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS 

1759
00:55:56,453 --> 00:55:58,021
REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT 

1760
00:55:58,021 --> 00:55:59,856
GIVES THAT CLARITY AND IT ALLOWS

1761
00:55:59,856 --> 00:56:00,490
US TO UNDERSTAND AND HAVE SORT 

1762
00:56:00,490 --> 00:56:03,259
OF A SHARED EXPECTATION ACROSS 

1763
00:56:03,259 --> 00:56:04,327
THE DEPARTMENT AND THE PUBLIC 

1764
00:56:04,327 --> 00:56:06,129
FOR WHEN THE DEPARTMENT DOES USE

1765
00:56:06,129 --> 00:56:08,598
THAT TOOL. SO WITH THAT, THAT IS

1766
00:56:08,598 --> 00:56:09,766
WHY I AM EXCITED TO BRING THIS 

1767
00:56:09,766 --> 00:56:11,968
FORWARD. I ALSO WANT TO 

1768
00:56:11,968 --> 00:56:12,602
APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE 

1769
00:56:12,602 --> 00:56:13,770
FOR WORKING WITH OUR OFFICE ON 

1770
00:56:13,770 --> 00:56:16,906
THIS AMENDMENT AND COLLEAGUES. 

1771
00:56:16,906 --> 00:56:20,276
I'M HAPPY TO SEE IF THERE'S 

1772
00:56:20,276 --> 00:56:23,546
QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 

1773
00:56:23,546 --> 00:56:24,114
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK YOU ARE 

1774
00:56:24,114 --> 00:56:24,647
RECOGNIZED. 

1775
00:56:24,647 --> 00:56:25,915
-- THANK YOU, CHAIR FOSTER, FOR 

1776
00:56:25,915 --> 00:56:28,151
BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND TO 

1777
00:56:28,151 --> 00:56:28,785
PROVIDING THAT CLARIFICATION. SO

1778
00:56:28,785 --> 00:56:31,254
JUST SO I'M CRYSTAL CLEAR. 

1779
00:56:31,254 --> 00:56:32,856
SDCI. SDCI CURRENTLY HAS THE 

1780
00:56:32,856 --> 00:56:34,324
DISCRETION TO BE ABLE TO 

1781
00:56:34,324 --> 00:56:37,093
EXERCISE THIS. THIS IS ABOUT 

1782
00:56:37,093 --> 00:56:38,194
CLARIFYING AND CODIFYING THAT 

1783
00:56:38,194 --> 00:56:38,495
DISCRETION. 

1784
00:56:38,495 --> 00:56:39,095
-- THAT'S CORRECT. 

1785
00:56:39,095 --> 00:56:40,096
-- THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR 

1786
00:56:40,096 --> 00:56:41,931
CLARIFYING THAT POINT. THIS 

1787
00:56:41,931 --> 00:56:42,599
ISN'T ABOUT EXPANDED DISCRETION,

1788
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:44,167
BUT RATHER MAKING IT ABUNDANTLY 

1789
00:56:44,167 --> 00:56:45,135
CLEAR. I APPRECIATE THAT AND 

1790
00:56:45,135 --> 00:56:47,504
I'LL BE SUPPORTING TODAY. THANK

1791
00:56:47,504 --> 00:56:47,704
YOU. 

1792
00:56:47,704 --> 00:56:49,372
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

1793
00:56:49,372 --> 00:56:52,842
RINCK. QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER 

1794
00:56:52,842 --> 00:56:55,979
COLLEAGUES? OKAY. SEEING NO 

1795
00:56:55,979 --> 00:56:57,447
QUESTIONS, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE

1796
00:56:57,447 --> 00:56:59,616
CALL THE ROLL ON ADOPTION OF 

1797
00:56:59,616 --> 00:57:00,116
AMENDMENT THREE? 

1798
00:57:00,116 --> 00:57:00,583
-- COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 

1799
00:57:00,583 --> 00:57:01,651
HOLLINGSWORTH. YES. 

1800
00:57:01,651 --> 00:57:03,753
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. 

1801
00:57:03,753 --> 00:57:04,220
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

1802
00:57:04,220 --> 00:57:04,454
-- YES. 

1803
00:57:04,454 --> 00:57:06,623
-- VICE CHAIR. LIN. YES. CHAIR 

1804
00:57:06,623 --> 00:57:06,856
FOSTER. 

1805
00:57:06,856 --> 00:57:07,457
-- YES. 

1806
00:57:07,457 --> 00:57:09,926
-- CHAIR. THERE ARE FIVE VOTES 

1807
00:57:09,926 --> 00:57:10,493
IN FAVOR AND NONE OPPOSED. 

1808
00:57:10,493 --> 00:57:11,227
-- THANK YOU. THE MOTION 

1809
00:57:11,227 --> 00:57:14,230
CARRIES. AN AMENDMENT THREE IS 

1810
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:14,831
ADOPTED AND COUNCILMEMBER LIN 

1811
00:57:14,831 --> 00:57:16,132
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR 

1812
00:57:16,132 --> 00:57:17,801
AMENDMENT BEFORE I HEAD OVER TO 

1813
00:57:17,801 --> 00:57:17,967
HB? 

1814
00:57:17,967 --> 00:57:21,070
-- YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 

1815
00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:21,905
AMENDMENT FOUR. SECOND. 

1816
00:57:21,905 --> 00:57:23,673
-- IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND 

1817
00:57:23,673 --> 00:57:25,708
SECONDED TO AMEND THE BILL. HB 

1818
00:57:25,708 --> 00:57:27,443
CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE 

1819
00:57:27,443 --> 00:57:29,279
AMENDMENT FOUR? 

1820
00:57:29,279 --> 00:57:30,346
-- SURE. SO THIS AMENDMENT 

1821
00:57:30,346 --> 00:57:32,849
PROVIDES TENANTS WITH A PATH TO 

1822
00:57:32,849 --> 00:57:33,383
REIMBURSEMENT AND CERTAIN 

1823
00:57:33,383 --> 00:57:34,984
DAMAGES FOR PROHIBITED FEE AND 

1824
00:57:34,984 --> 00:57:37,987
SECURITY DEPOSIT VIOLATIONS, 

1825
00:57:37,987 --> 00:57:39,622
WITHOUT FILING A PRIVATE RIGHT 

1826
00:57:39,622 --> 00:57:40,890
OF ACTION AND INCURRING LEGAL 

1827
00:57:40,890 --> 00:57:42,158
FEES. SO ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT NOW,

1828
00:57:42,158 --> 00:57:43,626
UNDER THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF 

1829
00:57:43,626 --> 00:57:45,328
ACTION SECTION, YOU KNOW, 

1830
00:57:45,328 --> 00:57:46,696
THERE'S A NUMBER OF 

1831
00:57:46,696 --> 00:57:47,330
STIPULATIONS REGARDING WHAT THE 

1832
00:57:47,330 --> 00:57:47,964
LANDLORD SHALL BE LIABLE IN A 

1833
00:57:47,964 --> 00:57:52,068
CIVIL ACTION FOR. HOWEVER, THIS 

1834
00:57:52,068 --> 00:57:52,936
AMENDMENT WOULD PROVIDE A PATH 

1835
00:57:52,936 --> 00:57:54,804
TO, FOR THE LANDLORD TO CURE THE

1836
00:57:54,804 --> 00:57:56,840
VIOLATION WITHIN 30 DAYS OF 

1837
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,807
RECEIVING WRITTEN NOTICE. AND 

1838
00:57:57,807 --> 00:57:59,742
THIS IS JUST FOR PROHIBITED FEES

1839
00:57:59,742 --> 00:58:01,144
AND UNLAWFULLY WITHHELD SECURITY

1840
00:58:01,144 --> 00:58:02,545
DEPOSITS, SO NOT INCLUDING OTHER

1841
00:58:02,545 --> 00:58:04,981
AREAS OF. CHAPTER 724 

1842
00:58:04,981 --> 00:58:06,115
REGULATIONS THAT EXIST TODAY. 

1843
00:58:06,115 --> 00:58:08,418
THERE ARE THERE ARE A NUMBER 

1844
00:58:08,418 --> 00:58:09,652
THERE, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT

1845
00:58:09,652 --> 00:58:10,854
THE LANDLORD, WITHIN 30 DAYS, 

1846
00:58:10,854 --> 00:58:12,322
PAY THE TENANT BACK FOR FULL 

1847
00:58:12,322 --> 00:58:14,958
REIMBURSEMENT OF ALL PROHIBITED 

1848
00:58:14,958 --> 00:58:16,359
FEES OR UNLAWFULLY WITHHELD 

1849
00:58:16,359 --> 00:58:17,727
SECURITY DEPOSITS CHARGED PLUS 

1850
00:58:17,727 --> 00:58:19,195
INTEREST, AS WELL AS DOUBLE THE 

1851
00:58:19,195 --> 00:58:21,431
AMOUNT OF THAT FEE OR SECURITY 

1852
00:58:21,431 --> 00:58:23,132
DEPOSIT. AND IT WOULD STIPULATE 

1853
00:58:23,132 --> 00:58:24,367
THAT IF THE TENANT IS PAID BACK 

1854
00:58:24,367 --> 00:58:26,436
WITHIN THAT 30 DAY WINDOW AT 

1855
00:58:26,436 --> 00:58:27,470
THAT SORT OF THREE TIMES LEVEL, 

1856
00:58:27,470 --> 00:58:29,973
THE TENANT COULD NOT PURSUE 

1857
00:58:29,973 --> 00:58:30,840
FURTHER REMEDIES UNDER THE 

1858
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,675
SECTIONS OF THE BILL. SO IT 

1859
00:58:32,675 --> 00:58:35,712
PROVIDES SORT OF AN ALTERNATIVE 

1860
00:58:35,712 --> 00:58:37,347
TO UTILIZING LEGAL 

1861
00:58:37,347 --> 00:58:39,015
REPRESENTATION IN THE PRIVATE 

1862
00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:41,818
RIGHT OF ACTION PATH. 

1863
00:58:41,818 --> 00:58:43,052
-- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LIN,

1864
00:58:43,052 --> 00:58:44,254
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. 

1865
00:58:44,254 --> 00:58:46,122
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH, 

1866
00:58:46,122 --> 00:58:51,194
COLLEAGUES., I THINK AS WE HEARD

1867
00:58:51,194 --> 00:58:52,862
EARLIER TODAY, PART OF THE ISSUE

1868
00:58:52,862 --> 00:58:55,398
IS A RIGHT IS ONLY AS POWERFUL 

1869
00:58:55,398 --> 00:58:57,000
AS KIND OF THE ABILITY TO 

1870
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,736
ENFORCE IT. AND WE HEARD 

1871
00:58:59,736 --> 00:59:02,572
CONCERNS AROUND THE ABILITY OF 

1872
00:59:02,572 --> 00:59:04,507
SDCI TO, YOU KNOW, THEIR LIMITED

1873
00:59:04,507 --> 00:59:08,311
RESOURCES TO ENFORCE NEW LAWS. I

1874
00:59:08,311 --> 00:59:10,346
KNOW THERE'S CERTAINLY A GOAL 

1875
00:59:10,346 --> 00:59:13,082
TO STAFF UP SDCI, BUT EVEN SO, I

1876
00:59:13,082 --> 00:59:15,485
THINK THEY THEY WILL HAVE 

1877
00:59:15,485 --> 00:59:16,853
LIMITED CAPABILITY TO ADDRESS, 

1878
00:59:16,853 --> 00:59:18,521
YOU KNOW, WHEN HALF OF OUR CITY 

1879
00:59:18,521 --> 00:59:20,023
IS RENTERS, THERE'S A LOT OF 

1880
00:59:20,023 --> 00:59:23,226
VIOLATIONS OUT THERE. AND SO, 

1881
00:59:23,226 --> 00:59:25,695
YOU KNOW, EMPOWERING TENANTS TO 

1882
00:59:25,695 --> 00:59:28,665
ACT ON THEIR OWN BEHALF TO GET 

1883
00:59:28,665 --> 00:59:32,602
PROMPT RELIEF, WITHOUT HAVING TO

1884
00:59:32,602 --> 00:59:34,103
RELY UPON SDCI, WITHOUT HAVING 

1885
00:59:34,103 --> 00:59:36,139
TO RELY UPON AN ATTORNEY., IS 

1886
00:59:36,139 --> 00:59:38,841
ONE OF THE PRIMARY MOTIVATING 

1887
00:59:38,841 --> 00:59:44,247
FACTORS HERE. THE OTHER IDEA IS 

1888
00:59:44,247 --> 00:59:45,148
JUST THAT OFTENTIMES, SOMETIMES 

1889
00:59:45,148 --> 00:59:47,016
ATTORNEYS ARE, ARE NECESSARY, 

1890
00:59:47,016 --> 00:59:50,053
SOMETIMES LITIGATION IS NEEDED, 

1891
00:59:50,053 --> 00:59:52,155
BUT SOMETIMES ATTORNEYS CAN JUST

1892
00:59:52,155 --> 00:59:53,289
ADD COSTS AND TIME. IT CAN, IT 

1893
00:59:53,289 --> 00:59:57,827
CAN TAKE A LONG TIME TO GO TO 

1894
00:59:57,827 --> 01:00:00,830
COURT TO GET RELIEF., SOME FOLKS

1895
01:00:00,830 --> 01:00:02,932
MIGHT NOT WANT TO HAVE THEIR 

1896
01:00:02,932 --> 01:00:03,800
NAME IN COURT RECORDS AND MIGHT 

1897
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,736
NOT WANT TO HAVE TO GO TO COURT.

1898
01:00:06,736 --> 01:00:09,205
AND SO THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS 

1899
01:00:09,205 --> 01:00:14,143
TO GIVE TENANTS THE, THE ABILITY

1900
01:00:14,143 --> 01:00:17,013
TO, TO SEND A SIMPLE NOTICE TO 

1901
01:00:17,013 --> 01:00:18,214
THEIR LANDLORD AND SAY, HEY, YOU

1902
01:00:18,214 --> 01:00:21,284
OVERCHARGED ME. REIMBURSE ME 

1903
01:00:21,284 --> 01:00:23,386
PLUS INTEREST AND PLUS TWO 

1904
01:00:23,386 --> 01:00:27,857
TIMES. AND IF YOU DO SO, THEN 

1905
01:00:27,857 --> 01:00:28,524
WE'RE DONE. AND YOU KNOW, IF 

1906
01:00:28,524 --> 01:00:30,259
YOU DO SO WITHIN 30 DAYS, WE'RE

1907
01:00:30,259 --> 01:00:32,395
DONE. I CAN MOVE ON WITH MY LIFE

1908
01:00:32,395 --> 01:00:33,963
IF I NEED TO MOVE OUT OF THE 

1909
01:00:33,963 --> 01:00:35,531
AREA BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, I 

1910
01:00:35,531 --> 01:00:36,265
DON'T HAVE TO BE TIED UP IN 

1911
01:00:36,265 --> 01:00:37,567
THIS LAWSUIT AND YOU DON'T HAVE

1912
01:00:37,567 --> 01:00:40,303
TO BE TIED UP IN A LAWSUIT FOR, 

1913
01:00:40,303 --> 01:00:44,207
FOR A YEAR OR MORE., SO THAT IS,

1914
01:00:44,207 --> 01:00:45,274
IS THE MOTIVATING FACTOR. IT 

1915
01:00:45,274 --> 01:00:48,077
ALSO GIVES LANDLORD A VERY 

1916
01:00:48,077 --> 01:00:50,813
STRONG INCENTIVE TO, TO SETTLE 

1917
01:00:50,813 --> 01:00:54,183
QUICKLY, TO BE RESPONSIVE, AND 

1918
01:00:54,183 --> 01:00:56,586
HOPEFULLY PART OF THE IDEA 

1919
01:00:56,586 --> 01:00:57,954
BEHIND THIS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, I 

1920
01:00:57,954 --> 01:00:59,322
WOULD HOPE THAT IF, IF THIS 

1921
01:00:59,322 --> 01:01:00,823
PASSES, THAT SDCI COULD COME UP 

1922
01:01:00,823 --> 01:01:04,627
WITH A VERY SIMPLE FORM AND 

1923
01:01:04,627 --> 01:01:05,795
GUIDANCE FOR TENANTS., WE DID 

1924
01:01:05,795 --> 01:01:07,830
GET SOME FEEDBACK THAT, THAT 

1925
01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:08,664
THERE MIGHT BE SOME WAYS TO 

1926
01:01:08,664 --> 01:01:10,233
IMPROVE THIS EVEN MORE AND 

1927
01:01:10,233 --> 01:01:11,501
CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT., YOU 

1928
01:01:11,501 --> 01:01:14,937
KNOW, WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO 

1929
01:01:14,937 --> 01:01:16,773
CIRCULATE THIS, ON FRIDAY, SO WE

1930
01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:17,974
DIDN'T HAVE A TON OF TIME TO 

1931
01:01:17,974 --> 01:01:18,574
GET ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE 

1932
01:01:18,574 --> 01:01:21,544
WOULD HAVE LIKED, BUT WE DID GET

1933
01:01:21,544 --> 01:01:23,613
SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK., IN 

1934
01:01:23,613 --> 01:01:24,814
GENERAL, SOME SUPPORT, BUT ALSO 

1935
01:01:24,814 --> 01:01:26,482
SOME SUGGESTIONS TO HOW TO 

1936
01:01:26,482 --> 01:01:28,484
IMPROVE IT EVEN FURTHER. 

1937
01:01:28,484 --> 01:01:29,385
CERTAINLY OPEN CONTINUE TO BE 

1938
01:01:29,385 --> 01:01:33,056
OPEN TO THAT. AND WITH THAT, 

1939
01:01:33,056 --> 01:01:35,458
CERTAINLY OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS 

1940
01:01:35,458 --> 01:01:39,195
OR COMMENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

1941
01:01:39,195 --> 01:01:40,630
-- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 

1942
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:42,098
LIN., I SEE A HAND FROM 

1943
01:01:42,098 --> 01:01:43,666
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. 

1944
01:01:43,666 --> 01:01:44,567
-- THANK YOU., FIRST OF ALL, 

1945
01:01:44,567 --> 01:01:45,768
THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR PUTTING 

1946
01:01:45,768 --> 01:01:47,270
THIS FORWARD. I WAS HERE IN 2016

1947
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:49,372
AND 2017 WHEN WE FIRST STARTED 

1948
01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:52,975
PASSING THE TENANT RIGHTS ISSUES

1949
01:01:52,975 --> 01:01:55,211
IN LEGISLATION., SO I'M GOING TO

1950
01:01:55,211 --> 01:01:56,245
ADDRESS MY QUESTIONS TO HB., 

1951
01:01:56,245 --> 01:01:57,346
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE 

1952
01:01:57,346 --> 01:01:58,715
SUMMARY AND FISCAL NOTE AND 

1953
01:01:58,715 --> 01:01:59,882
WALKING US THROUGH THE FIVE 

1954
01:01:59,882 --> 01:02:01,651
COMPONENTS OF THIS LEGISLATION.,

1955
01:02:01,651 --> 01:02:04,654
ALL OF THEM ARE FINE AS FAR AS 

1956
01:02:04,654 --> 01:02:06,122
I'M CONCERNED. IS I VOTED YES, 

1957
01:02:06,122 --> 01:02:07,256
OBVIOUSLY, THE ONE THAT GAVE ME 

1958
01:02:07,256 --> 01:02:09,225
THE MOST PAUSE IS AMENDMENT 

1959
01:02:09,225 --> 01:02:10,393
FOUR. AND I'M GOING TO ASK SOME

1960
01:02:10,393 --> 01:02:12,728
QUESTIONS JUST SO I UNDERSTAND. 

1961
01:02:12,728 --> 01:02:15,398
SO ON THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE. SO 

1962
01:02:15,398 --> 01:02:20,570
IS IT FAIR? IS IT IS IT ARE WE 

1963
01:02:20,570 --> 01:02:21,771
NOW ESTABLISHING SDCI? NOW FOR 

1964
01:02:21,771 --> 01:02:23,806
THE FIRST TIME, THE RIGHT WITH 

1965
01:02:23,806 --> 01:02:26,709
SUBPOENA POWER 

1966
01:02:26,709 --> 01:02:28,611
-- I'M SORRY. ON AMENDMENT 

1967
01:02:28,611 --> 01:02:30,646
FOUR, WE ARE NOT WEIGHING IN ON 

1968
01:02:30,646 --> 01:02:33,983
ANYTHING RELATED TO SDCI POWERS.

1969
01:02:33,983 --> 01:02:34,617
AMENDMENT FOUR IS ONLY RELATED 

1970
01:02:34,617 --> 01:02:37,019
TO A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION 

1971
01:02:37,019 --> 01:02:37,587
BETWEEN THE TENANT AND THE 

1972
01:02:37,587 --> 01:02:39,689
LANDLORD. 

1973
01:02:39,689 --> 01:02:41,357
-- OKAY, SO THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF

1974
01:02:41,357 --> 01:02:43,025
ACTION, I GUESS THE CONCERN I 

1975
01:02:43,025 --> 01:02:47,396
HAVE IS ON THE, ON THE ON THE 

1976
01:02:47,396 --> 01:02:48,564
DAMAGES PIECE. SO THEY HAVE 30 

1977
01:02:48,564 --> 01:02:51,601
DAYS TO, TO, TO CURE. AND SO 

1978
01:02:51,601 --> 01:02:53,936
WHEN I GO THROUGH THAT, I GUESS 

1979
01:02:53,936 --> 01:02:56,606
MY CONCERN IS, AND I'M JUST 

1980
01:02:56,606 --> 01:02:57,740
ASKING, EVERYONE GOES, GETS, 

1981
01:02:57,740 --> 01:03:02,278
GETS UPSET. ON THE 30 DAYS TO 

1982
01:03:02,278 --> 01:03:06,315
CURE. SO THE LANDLORD SAYS, 

1983
01:03:06,315 --> 01:03:08,851
OKAY, OUR SEE, I SAYS I'M 

1984
01:03:08,851 --> 01:03:10,453
PROHIBITED FEES. I GOT 30 DAYS 

1985
01:03:10,453 --> 01:03:14,724
TO FIX THIS. AND WITHIN THOSE 30

1986
01:03:14,724 --> 01:03:16,926
DAYS, TENANT GETS REIMBURSED FOR

1987
01:03:16,926 --> 01:03:18,528
THOSE PROHIBITED FEES. AND THEN 

1988
01:03:18,528 --> 01:03:21,063
EVEN WITHIN THE 30 DAYS, IF THE 

1989
01:03:21,063 --> 01:03:23,666
LANDLORD IS GOING TO CURE, WE 

1990
01:03:23,666 --> 01:03:26,369
STILL IMPOSE OR WILL BE IMPOSED 

1991
01:03:26,369 --> 01:03:27,703
DOUBLE DAMAGES. CORRECT. SO 

1992
01:03:27,703 --> 01:03:28,771
EXPLAIN THAT TO ME BECAUSE IT 

1993
01:03:28,771 --> 01:03:29,705
SEEMS PUNITIVE IN NATURE. SO 

1994
01:03:29,705 --> 01:03:31,174
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 

1995
01:03:31,174 --> 01:03:33,376
-- RIGHT. SO AGAIN, THE CITY 

1996
01:03:33,376 --> 01:03:35,912
WILL NOT IMPOSE ANYTHING. THIS 

1997
01:03:35,912 --> 01:03:38,014
IS ONLY BETWEEN THE TENANT AND 

1998
01:03:38,014 --> 01:03:40,950
THE LANDLORD. SO SEPARATELY, 

1999
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:42,718
SDCI COULD PURSUE AN 

2000
01:03:42,718 --> 01:03:44,153
INVESTIGATION. BUT THIS IS JUST 

2001
01:03:44,153 --> 01:03:44,887
BETWEEN THE TENANT AND THE 

2002
01:03:44,887 --> 01:03:46,422
LANDLORD. AND THEY WOULD BE 

2003
01:03:46,422 --> 01:03:49,759
LIABLE FOR THIS AMOUNT. AND SO 

2004
01:03:49,759 --> 01:03:51,627
WHAT THIS ACTUALLY DOES IS 

2005
01:03:51,627 --> 01:03:53,362
PROVIDES A MORE COST EFFECTIVE 

2006
01:03:53,362 --> 01:03:53,996
ALTERNATIVE TO THE PRIVATE RIGHT

2007
01:03:53,996 --> 01:03:56,699
OF ACTION. BECAUSE AS 

2008
01:03:56,699 --> 01:03:58,467
TRANSMITTED UNDER PRIVATE RIGHT 

2009
01:03:58,467 --> 01:04:00,236
OF ACTION, THE LANDLORD IS 

2010
01:04:00,236 --> 01:04:01,704
LIABLE FOR NOT ONLY THE DAMAGES 

2011
01:04:01,704 --> 01:04:03,339
PLUS INTEREST AND DOUBLE THE 

2012
01:04:03,339 --> 01:04:06,842
AMOUNT OF ANY OF THE FEE, BUT 

2013
01:04:06,842 --> 01:04:10,012
ALSO DOUBLE THE PENALTY THAT 

2014
01:04:10,012 --> 01:04:11,714
SDCI WOULD HAVE IMPOSED, AS WELL

2015
01:04:11,714 --> 01:04:13,583
AS REASONABLE ATTORNEY'S FEES. 

2016
01:04:13,583 --> 01:04:16,118
SO AS TRANSMITTED, THEY ARE 

2017
01:04:16,118 --> 01:04:16,752
ALREADY LIABLE FOR SIGNIFICANTLY

2018
01:04:16,752 --> 01:04:18,988
MORE THAN WHAT THIS AMENDMENT 

2019
01:04:18,988 --> 01:04:22,158
IS, IS PROVIDING A SORT OF 

2020
01:04:22,158 --> 01:04:22,792
ALTERNATIVE TO. SO JUST TO SAY 

2021
01:04:22,792 --> 01:04:24,393
IT AGAIN, TO BE VERY CLEAR, 

2022
01:04:24,393 --> 01:04:27,230
UNDER PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION AS

2023
01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:28,898
TRANSMITTED IN THE BILL, THE 

2024
01:04:28,898 --> 01:04:31,434
LANDLORD IS LIABLE FOR THREE 

2025
01:04:31,434 --> 01:04:33,236
TIMES THE FEE PLUS DOUBLE THE 

2026
01:04:33,236 --> 01:04:35,738
PENALTY, WHICH COULD BE $750 OR 

2027
01:04:35,738 --> 01:04:38,641
UP TO 1500 FOR SUBSEQUENT 

2028
01:04:38,641 --> 01:04:40,042
VIOLATIONS. IN ADDITION TO 

2029
01:04:40,042 --> 01:04:41,244
REASONABLE ATTORNEY'S FEES. SO 

2030
01:04:41,244 --> 01:04:43,179
WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS SAY,

2031
01:04:43,179 --> 01:04:44,780
RATHER THAN GOING THE FULL ROUTE

2032
01:04:44,780 --> 01:04:49,452
OF, YOU KNOW, LAWYERING UP AND 

2033
01:04:49,452 --> 01:04:50,753
INCURRING THAT LEVEL OF COST, IF

2034
01:04:50,753 --> 01:04:51,387
YOU'RE ABLE TO PAY THE TENANT 

2035
01:04:51,387 --> 01:04:53,656
BACK AT THAT THREE TIMES LEVEL 

2036
01:04:53,656 --> 01:04:55,758
WITHIN 30 DAYS, YOU ARE NO 

2037
01:04:55,758 --> 01:04:58,694
LONGER LIABLE FOR DOUBLE THE 

2038
01:04:58,694 --> 01:05:01,898
PENALTY, OR REASONABLE 

2039
01:05:01,898 --> 01:05:02,331
ATTORNEY'S FEES. 

2040
01:05:02,331 --> 01:05:04,433
-- OKAY. SO LET ME ASK YOU 

2041
01:05:04,433 --> 01:05:05,434
QUICKLY ON THE QUESTION, AND 

2042
01:05:05,434 --> 01:05:08,604
I'M LOOKING AT YOUR MEMO ON 

2043
01:05:08,604 --> 01:05:09,238
PAGE THREE UNDER CIVIL PENALTIES

2044
01:05:09,238 --> 01:05:12,508
AND REMEDIES, AM I ON THE RIGHT 

2045
01:05:12,508 --> 01:05:12,842
SECTION? OKAY 

2046
01:05:12,842 --> 01:05:13,409
-- WELL, THAT WOULD NOT BE 

2047
01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:14,977
RELATED TO PRIVATE RIGHT OF 

2048
01:05:14,977 --> 01:05:15,211
ACTION. 

2049
01:05:15,211 --> 01:05:16,412
-- OKAY, SO I GUESS I'M 

2050
01:05:16,412 --> 01:05:18,648
CONFUSING THAT WITH I'M ACTUALLY

2051
01:05:18,648 --> 01:05:21,684
LOOKING AT THE AMENDMENT., CAN 

2052
01:05:21,684 --> 01:05:26,389
YOU JUST WALK ME THROUGH IF WE 

2053
01:05:26,389 --> 01:05:28,257
ARE ACTUALLY, CODIFYING THE 

2054
01:05:28,257 --> 01:05:30,459
RIGHTS OR THE PRIVILEGES THAT 

2055
01:05:30,459 --> 01:05:32,194
SDCI DIRECTORS ADMINISTRATION 

2056
01:05:32,194 --> 01:05:32,828
HAS, OR I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER

2057
01:05:32,828 --> 01:05:33,829
AMENDMENTS, WE WERE JUST 

2058
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:34,931
CODIFYING WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY 

2059
01:05:34,931 --> 01:05:36,198
DOING IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT 

2060
01:05:36,198 --> 01:05:37,233
WE'RE SEEING HERE? 

2061
01:05:37,233 --> 01:05:39,101
-- NO. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE 

2062
01:05:39,101 --> 01:05:40,469
PROVIDING A NEW AVENUE FOR 

2063
01:05:40,469 --> 01:05:42,238
LANDLORDS AND TENANTS TO 

2064
01:05:42,238 --> 01:05:42,838
BASICALLY RESOLVE THEIR 

2065
01:05:42,838 --> 01:05:45,508
DIFFERENCES WITHOUT GOING 

2066
01:05:45,508 --> 01:05:47,310
THROUGH FORMAL LITIGATION. SO 

2067
01:05:47,310 --> 01:05:49,011
THERE ARE MANY PATHS TO 

2068
01:05:49,011 --> 01:05:49,779
ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE IN THIS 

2069
01:05:49,779 --> 01:05:50,813
ORDINANCE. THERE'S PRIVATE RIGHT

2070
01:05:50,813 --> 01:05:52,648
OF ACTION. THERE ARE CLASS 

2071
01:05:52,648 --> 01:05:54,216
ACTION SUITS, AND THEN THERE ARE

2072
01:05:54,216 --> 01:05:55,117
SEVERAL PATHS THAT SDCI CAN 

2073
01:05:55,117 --> 01:05:57,320
TAKE. SO THIS AMENDMENT IS ONLY 

2074
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,921
CONCERNED WITH THAT PRIVATE 

2075
01:05:58,921 --> 01:06:00,690
RIGHT OF ACTION PATH. IT DOES 

2076
01:06:00,690 --> 01:06:02,858
NOT TOUCH WHAT WAS TRANSMITTED 

2077
01:06:02,858 --> 01:06:06,062
RELATED TO SDCI ENFORCEMENT. IT 

2078
01:06:06,062 --> 01:06:06,696
ONLY TALKS ABOUT THE TENANT AND 

2079
01:06:06,696 --> 01:06:07,697
THE LANDLORD IN A PRIVATE RIGHT 

2080
01:06:07,697 --> 01:06:10,566
OF ACTION. SO THE THING IS THAT 

2081
01:06:10,566 --> 01:06:11,867
WHETHER UNDER A CLASS ACTION 

2082
01:06:11,867 --> 01:06:13,436
SUIT OR UNDER ANY OF THE OTHER 

2083
01:06:13,436 --> 01:06:14,603
PATHS, THAT SDCI WOULD BE 

2084
01:06:14,603 --> 01:06:15,705
INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, THEY 

2085
01:06:15,705 --> 01:06:16,872
WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHETHER 

2086
01:06:16,872 --> 01:06:18,941
A TENANT HAD ALREADY BEEN PAID 

2087
01:06:18,941 --> 01:06:20,209
BACK. SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT A

2088
01:06:20,209 --> 01:06:21,210
SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO 

2089
01:06:21,210 --> 01:06:24,480
BE PILING ON LOTS OF DIFFERENT 

2090
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,281
PENALTIES. WHAT WE WANT TO DO 

2091
01:06:25,281 --> 01:06:27,350
THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE 

2092
01:06:27,350 --> 01:06:28,217
ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS, I THINK 

2093
01:06:28,217 --> 01:06:29,352
IT'S SAFE TO SAY, IS TO MAKE 

2094
01:06:29,352 --> 01:06:31,153
THE TENANT WHOLE AND TO BRING 

2095
01:06:31,153 --> 01:06:33,823
THE LANDLORD INTO COMPLIANCE AND

2096
01:06:33,823 --> 01:06:34,623
GENERALLY AS QUICKLY AS 

2097
01:06:34,623 --> 01:06:35,758
POSSIBLE. SO WHETHER THAT 

2098
01:06:35,758 --> 01:06:36,726
HAPPENS VIA A PRIVATE RIGHT OF 

2099
01:06:36,726 --> 01:06:38,861
ACTION, IN WHICH CASE I BELIEVE 

2100
01:06:38,861 --> 01:06:39,829
SDCI WOULD SORT OF SAY, WELL, 

2101
01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:40,796
THAT ONE'S TAKEN CARE OF. WE'RE

2102
01:06:40,796 --> 01:06:42,331
NO LONGER GOING TO PURSUE 

2103
01:06:42,331 --> 01:06:43,666
ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THAT TENANT 

2104
01:06:43,666 --> 01:06:44,867
HAS BEEN PAID BACK, OR WHETHER 

2105
01:06:44,867 --> 01:06:49,271
IT'S TAKEN CARE OF VIA A FORMAL

2106
01:06:49,271 --> 01:06:49,739
CITATION OR A FORMAL 

2107
01:06:49,739 --> 01:06:50,439
INVESTIGATION, A NOTICE OF 

2108
01:06:50,439 --> 01:06:52,041
VIOLATION, AND ALL OF THESE 

2109
01:06:52,041 --> 01:06:52,975
OTHER PATHWAYS. THE POINT IS TO,

2110
01:06:52,975 --> 01:06:56,045
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, PAY THAT 

2111
01:06:56,045 --> 01:06:56,746
TENANT BACK, PLUS THAT THREE 

2112
01:06:56,746 --> 01:06:58,314
TIMES AT THAT THREE TIMES LEVEL.

2113
01:06:58,314 --> 01:07:00,383
AND IF IT, YOU KNOW, HAS RISEN 

2114
01:07:00,383 --> 01:07:02,184
TO THAT LEVEL OF NEEDING AN 

2115
01:07:02,184 --> 01:07:03,552
ORDER OF INVESTIGATIVE FINDINGS,

2116
01:07:03,552 --> 01:07:04,487
THEN, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY AT 

2117
01:07:04,487 --> 01:07:07,223
THAT POINT, YOU'VE GOT $750 OR 

2118
01:07:07,223 --> 01:07:10,092
1500 PER VIOLATION. AND IN THAT 

2119
01:07:10,092 --> 01:07:11,994
CASE, JUST TO KEEP GOING DOWN 

2120
01:07:11,994 --> 01:07:13,529
THIS PATH, THE DIRECTOR HAS THE 

2121
01:07:13,529 --> 01:07:16,766
ABILITY TO WAIVE THOSE PENALTIES

2122
01:07:16,766 --> 01:07:17,666
FOR TIMELY REIMBURSEMENT TO THE 

2123
01:07:17,666 --> 01:07:18,601
TENANT. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THIS

2124
01:07:18,601 --> 01:07:20,302
AMENDMENT IS REALLY IN LINE WITH

2125
01:07:20,302 --> 01:07:23,439
THE GENERAL ORDINANCE REGARDING 

2126
01:07:23,439 --> 01:07:24,273
REALLY PRIORITIZING PAYMENT BACK

2127
01:07:24,273 --> 01:07:25,875
TO THE TENANT AT THAT THREE 

2128
01:07:25,875 --> 01:07:27,710
TIMES LEVEL, WHICH I WOULD AGREE

2129
01:07:27,710 --> 01:07:29,512
IS SOMEWHAT PUNITIVE TO SAY, YOU

2130
01:07:29,512 --> 01:07:30,813
KNOW, LOOK, THE TENANT'S BEEN 

2131
01:07:30,813 --> 01:07:32,948
PAID BACK AND THEN SOME, YOU 

2132
01:07:32,948 --> 01:07:35,818
KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO FURTHER 

2133
01:07:35,818 --> 01:07:37,353
PENALIZE THAT LANDLORD 

2134
01:07:37,353 --> 01:07:37,686
NECESSARILY. 

2135
01:07:37,686 --> 01:07:40,556
-- AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT BEFORE

2136
01:07:40,556 --> 01:07:43,025
WITH THE PUNITIVE NATURE. 

2137
01:07:43,025 --> 01:07:47,063
-- WELL, THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF 

2138
01:07:47,063 --> 01:07:48,130
ACTION, SECTION OF CODE DOES 

2139
01:07:48,130 --> 01:07:51,500
ALREADY EXIST. YES., BUT IT, 

2140
01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:53,235
YES, IT DOES ALREADY EXIST AND 

2141
01:07:53,235 --> 01:07:54,837
IT DID ALREADY HAVE DOUBLE THE 

2142
01:07:54,837 --> 01:07:56,505
AMOUNT OF SECURITY DEPOSIT 

2143
01:07:56,505 --> 01:07:57,673
UNLAWFULLY WITHHELD AS AN 

2144
01:07:57,673 --> 01:08:00,676
EXAMPLE. SO THIS REALLY EXTENDS 

2145
01:08:00,676 --> 01:08:02,578
THAT TO THIS NEW AREA OF FEE 

2146
01:08:02,578 --> 01:08:03,045
REGULATION. 

2147
01:08:03,045 --> 01:08:04,747
-- AND SO PART OF THE EDUCATION 

2148
01:08:04,747 --> 01:08:07,049
PROCESS WOULD BE NOT ONLY FOR 

2149
01:08:07,049 --> 01:08:08,284
THE TENANT, BUT FOR THE LANDLORD

2150
01:08:08,284 --> 01:08:10,553
TO SAY, THIS IS NEW, NOT LIKE 

2151
01:08:10,553 --> 01:08:14,557
WHAT WE DID IN 16 AND 17. WE'RE

2152
01:08:14,557 --> 01:08:15,224
CODIFYING WHAT'S ALREADY THERE 

2153
01:08:15,224 --> 01:08:16,592
AND WE'RE STRENGTHENING ON THE 

2154
01:08:16,592 --> 01:08:18,761
DATA THAT WE NOW HAVE REGARDING 

2155
01:08:18,761 --> 01:08:20,095
JUNK FEES. BUT, I JUST WANT TO 

2156
01:08:20,095 --> 01:08:24,667
MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WITHSTAND 

2157
01:08:24,667 --> 01:08:25,201
A LEGAL CHALLENGE THAT A 

2158
01:08:25,201 --> 01:08:27,236
LANDLORD, WHETHER THEY'RE 

2159
01:08:27,236 --> 01:08:28,804
COMMERCIAL OR SMALLER, ARE ON 

2160
01:08:28,804 --> 01:08:29,972
NOTICE. THIS IS WHAT THE 

2161
01:08:29,972 --> 01:08:31,607
REQUIREMENTS ARE BECAUSE 

2162
01:08:31,607 --> 01:08:32,274
THERE'S RETENTION REQUIREMENTS.

2163
01:08:32,274 --> 01:08:34,310
NOW THERE'S A SUBPOENA ISSUE. 

2164
01:08:34,310 --> 01:08:35,411
NOW THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER 

2165
01:08:35,411 --> 01:08:37,680
TOOLS WHICH, YOU KNOW, ARE GOOD 

2166
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,014
AND THEY STRENGTHEN IT. BUT I 

2167
01:08:39,014 --> 01:08:40,850
THINK IN THE INTENT OF THIS 

2168
01:08:40,850 --> 01:08:42,952
LEGISLATION, IF I CAN, MADAM 

2169
01:08:42,952 --> 01:08:45,287
CHAIR, IS TO ENSURE THAT RENTERS

2170
01:08:45,287 --> 01:08:47,490
ARE TREATED FAIRLY AND HAVE 

2171
01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:49,992
TRANSPARENCY AND FULL NOTICE OF 

2172
01:08:49,992 --> 01:08:51,560
WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE PAYING

2173
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,996
FOR., AND ALSO TO BRING 

2174
01:08:53,996 --> 01:08:54,597
LANDLORDS INTO COMPLIANCE TO 

2175
01:08:54,597 --> 01:08:56,565
MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS ARE 

2176
01:08:56,565 --> 01:08:58,200
ADDRESSED AND THAT THERE'S AN 

2177
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,435
ARENA WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS THESE

2178
01:08:59,435 --> 01:09:01,537
ISSUES WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO 

2179
01:09:01,537 --> 01:09:03,973
AN ADMINISTRATOR OR, MUNICIPAL 

2180
01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:04,206
COURT. 

2181
01:09:04,206 --> 01:09:06,442
-- RIGHT. AND THERE ARE INITIAL 

2182
01:09:06,442 --> 01:09:08,611
OUTREACH COSTS THAT ARE 

2183
01:09:08,611 --> 01:09:09,578
ANTICIPATED TO COME AS PART OF 

2184
01:09:09,578 --> 01:09:11,380
BUDGET LEGISLATION, I THINK, TO 

2185
01:09:11,380 --> 01:09:13,349
HELP WITH THAT RIGHT TO UPDATE 

2186
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:14,650
ALL OF THE LANDLORD RESOURCE 

2187
01:09:14,650 --> 01:09:15,284
INFORMATION. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY

2188
01:09:15,284 --> 01:09:17,253
HOLD PERIODIC LANDLORD WORKSHOPS

2189
01:09:17,253 --> 01:09:18,654
AND THAT KIND OF THING TO TRY TO

2190
01:09:18,654 --> 01:09:20,890
GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT 

2191
01:09:20,890 --> 01:09:21,190
EVERYTHING. 

2192
01:09:21,190 --> 01:09:22,892
-- SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS ON THE

2193
01:09:22,892 --> 01:09:24,760
BUDGETARY REQUIREMENTS, WE WOULD

2194
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,861
BE SEEKING THREE FTES TO BE ARE 

2195
01:09:25,861 --> 01:09:27,530
WE ACTUALLY CALLING THEM 

2196
01:09:27,530 --> 01:09:29,832
INVESTIGATORS THAT WE ALREADY 

2197
01:09:29,832 --> 01:09:30,432
HAVE AT SDCI?, 

2198
01:09:30,432 --> 01:09:31,634
-- I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT 

2199
01:09:31,634 --> 01:09:33,369
TITLES. I KNOW THE SORT OF 

2200
01:09:33,369 --> 01:09:34,470
CLASSIFICATION., BUT, YOU KNOW, 

2201
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:36,872
I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE THREE 

2202
01:09:36,872 --> 01:09:38,040
SLIGHTLY DISTINCT TITLES. AND 

2203
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,308
YES, THOSE ARE ALL CONTAINED IN 

2204
01:09:39,308 --> 01:09:40,042
THE FISCAL SUMMARY NOTE, BUT 

2205
01:09:40,042 --> 01:09:41,110
THEY ARE NOT OF COURSE, 

2206
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:42,278
AUTHORIZED AS PART OF THIS 

2207
01:09:42,278 --> 01:09:43,712
LEGISLATION BECAUSE THEY'LL COME

2208
01:09:43,712 --> 01:09:45,381
DURING BUDGET. BUT IT IS THE 

2209
01:09:45,381 --> 01:09:46,982
IMPLICATION OF THIS LEGISLATION 

2210
01:09:46,982 --> 01:09:48,184
IS THAT DURING BUDGET WILL BE 

2211
01:09:48,184 --> 01:09:50,419
GETTING LEGISLATION TO ADD THREE

2212
01:09:50,419 --> 01:09:53,455
F T'S AND AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL

2213
01:09:53,455 --> 01:09:54,523
OUTREACH COSTS FOR THE FIRST 

2214
01:09:54,523 --> 01:09:55,391
YEAR. AND THE EFFORTS, OF 

2215
01:09:55,391 --> 01:09:58,027
COURSE, WOULD BE ONGOING TO PAY 

2216
01:09:58,027 --> 01:10:00,663
FOR THE INCREASED LEVEL OF 

2217
01:10:00,663 --> 01:10:01,130
ENFORCEMENT THAT SDCI 

2218
01:10:01,130 --> 01:10:02,765
ANTICIPATES BASED ON THIS NEW 

2219
01:10:02,765 --> 01:10:04,900
LEGISLATION. 

2220
01:10:04,900 --> 01:10:05,501
-- SO YOU DID THE SUMMARY AND 

2221
01:10:05,501 --> 01:10:07,136
FISCAL NOTE DID YOU ALSO DO THE 

2222
01:10:07,136 --> 01:10:09,905
THE SUMMARY OF THE THE, THE, THE

2223
01:10:09,905 --> 01:10:10,839
CHARTS THAT WERE ATTACHED. 

2224
01:10:10,839 --> 01:10:12,241
-- AND YES, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I 

2225
01:10:12,241 --> 01:10:13,008
ACTUALLY DIDN'T DO THE SUMMARY 

2226
01:10:13,008 --> 01:10:14,743
AND FISCAL NOTE THAT WAS 

2227
01:10:14,743 --> 01:10:15,911
PROVIDED BY THE EXEC, BUT I DID 

2228
01:10:15,911 --> 01:10:17,413
DO THE MEMO AND THE AND THE 

2229
01:10:17,413 --> 01:10:18,781
ATTACHMENTS ONE AND TWO TO HELP 

2230
01:10:18,781 --> 01:10:21,183
SORT OF EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENT 

2231
01:10:21,183 --> 01:10:21,483
COMPONENTS. 

2232
01:10:21,483 --> 01:10:22,217
-- OKAY. I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING

2233
01:10:22,217 --> 01:10:24,386
THAT. THIS IS I APOLOGIZE. 

2234
01:10:24,386 --> 01:10:26,422
THAT'S ON ME. I WAS GETTING 

2235
01:10:26,422 --> 01:10:28,891
YOUR SUMMARY OR YOUR MEMO DATED 

2236
01:10:28,891 --> 01:10:30,759
JULY 14th, CONFUSED WITH THE ONE

2237
01:10:30,759 --> 01:10:32,428
THAT WE GOT FROM THE 

2238
01:10:32,428 --> 01:10:33,929
ADMINISTRATOR WAS QUINN ON THAT 

2239
01:10:33,929 --> 01:10:35,030
ONE AS WELL? OKAY, I APOLOGIZE. 

2240
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:37,833
SO THERE WAS, I WAS GETTING MY 

2241
01:10:37,833 --> 01:10:40,502
NOTES CONFUSED ON, ON THEIR 

2242
01:10:40,502 --> 01:10:43,472
ACTUAL CHARTS OF POSITIONS, FTE 

2243
01:10:43,472 --> 01:10:44,740
COSTS, WHEN IT WOULD COME IN THE

2244
01:10:44,740 --> 01:10:45,541
BUDGET, WHEN THEY WOULD BE 

2245
01:10:45,541 --> 01:10:47,676
ASKING FOR IT AND WHAT IT WOULD 

2246
01:10:47,676 --> 01:10:48,477
THE IMPACTS, RIGHT? 

2247
01:10:48,477 --> 01:10:51,247
-- THAT WAS ALL TRANSMITTED BY 

2248
01:10:51,247 --> 01:10:52,781
THE EXECUTIVE., 

2249
01:10:52,781 --> 01:10:53,415
-- AND SO WHEN THEY TRANSMITTED 

2250
01:10:53,415 --> 01:10:54,717
FROM THE EXECUTIVE, YOU HAD A 

2251
01:10:54,717 --> 01:10:55,351
CHANCE TO, AND I'M SURE THE 

2252
01:10:55,351 --> 01:10:56,885
CHAIR DID AS WELL. I'M JUST 

2253
01:10:56,885 --> 01:10:58,954
GOING TO ASK FOR THE PUBLIC. 

2254
01:10:58,954 --> 01:11:00,289
THE, I THINK IT'S, I JUST THINK

2255
01:11:00,289 --> 01:11:01,390
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR 

2256
01:11:01,390 --> 01:11:02,391
PEOPLE TO LOOK AT ON THE RACE 

2257
01:11:02,391 --> 01:11:04,627
AND SOCIAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE 

2258
01:11:04,627 --> 01:11:05,995
IMPACTS. I THINK THAT THE DATA 

2259
01:11:05,995 --> 01:11:08,097
THERE,, FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE

2260
01:11:08,097 --> 01:11:10,265
IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH THIS 

2261
01:11:10,265 --> 01:11:11,467
LEGISLATION, CAN SEE THAT, I 

2262
01:11:11,467 --> 01:11:15,371
THINK IT'S ON PAGE NINE THAT, 

2263
01:11:15,371 --> 01:11:18,540
THE RACE AND SOCIAL JUSTICE 

2264
01:11:18,540 --> 01:11:19,141
INITIATIVE IMPACTS ARE PRETTY 

2265
01:11:19,141 --> 01:11:19,975
POWERFUL WITH THE DATA THAT 

2266
01:11:19,975 --> 01:11:21,176
THEY'VE PROVIDED. SO WITH THAT,

2267
01:11:21,176 --> 01:11:24,279
I GUESS I SHOULD BE THANKING, 

2268
01:11:24,279 --> 01:11:24,980
QUINN FOR THAT. RIGHT. ALL 

2269
01:11:24,980 --> 01:11:27,683
RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 

2270
01:11:27,683 --> 01:11:28,984
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

2271
01:11:28,984 --> 01:11:31,420
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. AND I SEE 

2272
01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:38,427
A HAND FROM COUNCILMEMBER LIN. 

2273
01:11:38,427 --> 01:11:42,364
-- YEAH. THANK YOU. FOR, THOSE 

2274
01:11:42,364 --> 01:11:44,533
GREAT QUESTIONS., COUNCILMEMBER 

2275
01:11:44,533 --> 01:11:47,870
JUAREZ. I JUST WANTED TO 

2276
01:11:47,870 --> 01:11:51,173
CLARIFY, SORT OF THE, THE 

2277
01:11:51,173 --> 01:11:58,614
INTENT, WHICH WAS, TO, I DON'T 

2278
01:11:58,614 --> 01:11:59,515
AND HHB JUST CLARIFY THAT THIS 

2279
01:11:59,515 --> 01:12:03,185
IS NOT A NEW CAUSE OF ACTION. 

2280
01:12:03,185 --> 01:12:07,489
CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT., BUT I

2281
01:12:07,489 --> 01:12:10,926
DID WANT TO INCENTIVIZE 

2282
01:12:10,926 --> 01:12:13,629
LANDLORDS TO RESOLVE THINGS 

2283
01:12:13,629 --> 01:12:16,365
QUICKLY AND WITHOUT THE NEED FOR

2284
01:12:16,365 --> 01:12:18,600
FORMAL LEGAL ACTION WHEN 

2285
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,436
POSSIBLE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO 

2286
01:12:20,436 --> 01:12:21,837
CLARIFY THAT, THAT THAT WAS THE 

2287
01:12:21,837 --> 01:12:25,274
INTENT BEHIND THIS, GIVEN THE, 

2288
01:12:25,274 --> 01:12:27,743
KIND OF NEW LANGUAGE THAT ARE 

2289
01:12:27,743 --> 01:12:28,977
THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING

2290
01:12:28,977 --> 01:12:32,147
TO PRIVATE RIGHTS OF ACTION., I 

2291
01:12:32,147 --> 01:12:33,582
FELT LIKE THIS LINED UP, WITH 

2292
01:12:33,582 --> 01:12:37,086
THOSE NEW AMENDMENTS, BUT ALSO 

2293
01:12:37,086 --> 01:12:38,887
PROVIDED A STRONG INCENTIVE FOR 

2294
01:12:38,887 --> 01:12:41,123
LANDLORDS TO, TO QUICKLY COME 

2295
01:12:41,123 --> 01:12:42,858
INTO COMPLIANCE., THANK YOU. 

2296
01:12:42,858 --> 01:12:44,526
-- THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

2297
01:12:44,526 --> 01:12:47,629
COUNCILMEMBER LIN COLLEAGUES, 

2298
01:12:47,629 --> 01:12:48,464
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR 

2299
01:12:48,464 --> 01:12:53,001
DISCUSSION ON THIS AMENDMENT?, 

2300
01:12:53,001 --> 01:12:53,635
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. IS THAT A 

2301
01:12:53,635 --> 01:12:55,270
NEW HAND OR AN OLD HAND? SORRY 

2302
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:58,107
ABOUT THAT. NO. YOU'RE GREAT. 

2303
01:12:58,107 --> 01:12:59,675
YOU'RE WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. 

2304
01:12:59,675 --> 01:13:00,843
THAT'S ALL GOOD., I WILL JUST 

2305
01:13:00,843 --> 01:13:02,377
SHARE A COUPLE OF QUICK 

2306
01:13:02,377 --> 01:13:03,545
COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE YOU, 

2307
01:13:03,545 --> 01:13:04,079
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ, FOR 

2308
01:13:04,079 --> 01:13:07,449
BRINGING UP THE RACE AND SOCIAL 

2309
01:13:07,449 --> 01:13:08,117
JUSTICE INFORMATION. I'LL JUST 

2310
01:13:08,117 --> 01:13:10,152
READ IT IN CASE FOLKS ARE 

2311
01:13:10,152 --> 01:13:10,786
CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT COUNCILMEMBER

2312
01:13:10,786 --> 01:13:12,421
JUAREZ IS REFERENCING. AND JUST 

2313
01:13:12,421 --> 01:13:15,591
FROM THE REPORT THAT WE HAVE. SO

2314
01:13:15,591 --> 01:13:16,158
RENTAL HOUSING FEES FURTHER 

2315
01:13:16,158 --> 01:13:17,559
EXACERBATE DISPARITIES, 

2316
01:13:17,559 --> 01:13:19,395
INCLUDING CONSUMER HOUSING 

2317
01:13:19,395 --> 01:13:21,296
TRENDS REPORT IN 2025 FROM 

2318
01:13:21,296 --> 01:13:24,633
ZILLOW THAT FOUND THAT RENTERS 

2319
01:13:24,633 --> 01:13:28,504
OF COLOR AT 67% AND AAPI AT 74%,

2320
01:13:28,504 --> 01:13:30,405
AND HISPANIC RENTERS AT 66%, 

2321
01:13:30,405 --> 01:13:32,574
WERE MORE LIKELY TO REPORT 

2322
01:13:32,574 --> 01:13:34,977
PAYING AT LEAST ONE FEE COMPARED

2323
01:13:34,977 --> 01:13:37,679
TO WHITE RENTERS AT 63% AND 

2324
01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:39,281
RENTERS AGE 18 TO 29 WERE ALSO 

2325
01:13:39,281 --> 01:13:40,916
SIGNIFICANTLY MORE LIKELY AT 

2326
01:13:40,916 --> 01:13:42,551
82%, TO REPORT PAYING AT LEAST 

2327
01:13:42,551 --> 01:13:43,952
ONE FEE COMPARED TO OTHER AGE 

2328
01:13:43,952 --> 01:13:47,222
GROUPS. SO THERE'S MORE THERE, 

2329
01:13:47,222 --> 01:13:49,024
BUT I WON'T. DEATH BY 

2330
01:13:49,024 --> 01:13:50,492
POWERPOINT BY READING THE ENTIRE

2331
01:13:50,492 --> 01:13:52,294
REPORT. BUT THANK YOU FOR 

2332
01:13:52,294 --> 01:13:52,928
CALLING THAT OUT. COUNCILMEMBER 

2333
01:13:52,928 --> 01:13:54,430
JUAREZ. AND I WILL JUST SAY, IN 

2334
01:13:54,430 --> 01:13:55,664
TERMS OF THIS AMENDMENT IN 

2335
01:13:55,664 --> 01:13:57,132
PARTICULAR, I THINK IT'S 

2336
01:13:57,132 --> 01:13:58,434
IMPORTANT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU,

2337
01:13:58,434 --> 01:13:59,067
COUNCILMEMBER LIN, FOR BRINGING 

2338
01:13:59,067 --> 01:14:01,270
THIS FORWARD, BECAUSE I BELIEVE 

2339
01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:03,005
THE SPIRIT AND THE GOAL OF THE 

2340
01:14:03,005 --> 01:14:05,407
OVERALL LEGISLATION IS TO FIND 

2341
01:14:05,407 --> 01:14:06,775
WAYS TO KEEP RENTERS WHOLE. AND 

2342
01:14:06,775 --> 01:14:09,144
PART OF THAT ALSO, I THINK, 

2343
01:14:09,144 --> 01:14:10,946
COMES TO OTHER FORMS OF TIME AND

2344
01:14:10,946 --> 01:14:13,148
EXPENSE, SUCH AS PURSUING 

2345
01:14:13,148 --> 01:14:15,417
LAWSUITS. AND I THINK THIS 

2346
01:14:15,417 --> 01:14:18,120
PROVIDES A WAY FOR RENTERS TO 

2347
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,189
SEEK REMEDIATION WHILE ALSO 

2348
01:14:20,189 --> 01:14:21,657
PERHAPS SAVING TIME AND STILL 

2349
01:14:21,657 --> 01:14:23,325
BEING ALIGNED WITH OTHER 

2350
01:14:23,325 --> 01:14:23,959
COMPONENTS OF THE LEGISLATION. 

2351
01:14:23,959 --> 01:14:26,728
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS 

2352
01:14:26,728 --> 01:14:27,930
TODAY., WITH THAT., CLERK, CAN 

2353
01:14:27,930 --> 01:14:29,398
YOU I'M JUST CHECKING FOR HANDS

2354
01:14:29,398 --> 01:14:31,366
BECAUSE I ALWAYS FORGET. CLERK 

2355
01:14:31,366 --> 01:14:33,235
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON

2356
01:14:33,235 --> 01:14:33,702
AMENDMENT FOUR. 

2357
01:14:33,702 --> 01:14:36,038
-- COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 

2358
01:14:36,038 --> 01:14:36,405
HOLLINGSWORTH. 

2359
01:14:36,405 --> 01:14:39,475
-- SORRY, AYE. 

2360
01:14:39,475 --> 01:14:40,075
-- COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. 

2361
01:14:40,075 --> 01:14:41,310
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

2362
01:14:41,310 --> 01:14:41,543
-- YES. 

2363
01:14:41,543 --> 01:14:42,644
-- VICE CHAIR LIN. 

2364
01:14:42,644 --> 01:14:42,878
-- YES. 

2365
01:14:42,878 --> 01:14:43,412
-- CHAIR FOSTER. 

2366
01:14:43,412 --> 01:14:43,712
-- YES. 

2367
01:14:43,712 --> 01:14:44,847
-- CHAIR, THERE ARE FIVE VOTES 

2368
01:14:44,847 --> 01:14:47,082
IN FAVOR AND NONE OPPOSED. 

2369
01:14:47,082 --> 01:14:48,750
-- OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES AN 

2370
01:14:48,750 --> 01:14:50,652
AMENDMENT FOUR IS ADOPTED. THANK

2371
01:14:50,652 --> 01:14:51,687
YOU, HB WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU

2372
01:14:51,687 --> 01:14:53,188
FOR WALKING THROUGH ALL THE 

2373
01:14:53,188 --> 01:14:54,122
AMENDMENTS AND ALL THE WORK THAT

2374
01:14:54,122 --> 01:14:55,624
YOU DID ON THIS LEGISLATION OVER

2375
01:14:55,624 --> 01:14:56,458
THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. SO I 

2376
01:14:56,458 --> 01:14:58,760
WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION 

2377
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,062
TO YOU AND THE REST OF CENTRAL 

2378
01:15:00,062 --> 01:15:01,096
STAFF., YOU ALL WORK INCREDIBLY 

2379
01:15:01,096 --> 01:15:02,130
HARD AND WE JUST REALLY 

2380
01:15:02,130 --> 01:15:02,898
APPRECIATE IT. SO THANK. 

2381
01:15:02,898 --> 01:15:05,400
-- YOU, THANK YOU., 

2382
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,835
-- ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE ARE 

2383
01:15:06,835 --> 01:15:10,639
ALL THROUGH AMENDMENTS. SO NOW 

2384
01:15:10,639 --> 01:15:11,607
WE ARE ON TO THE SPEECHIFYING 

2385
01:15:11,607 --> 01:15:12,941
PORTION BEFORE WE TAKE OUR 

2386
01:15:12,941 --> 01:15:14,643
VOTE., I WANT TO SAY I'M REALLY

2387
01:15:14,643 --> 01:15:15,978
EXCITED TO BE VOTING ON THIS 

2388
01:15:15,978 --> 01:15:16,612
LEGISLATION BEFORE US TODAY. AND

2389
01:15:16,612 --> 01:15:18,280
I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE 

2390
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,749
TO THE MAYOR AND HER TEAM, 

2391
01:15:20,749 --> 01:15:21,383
ESPECIALLY KAREN, FOR YOUR WORK 

2392
01:15:21,383 --> 01:15:24,019
ON THIS BILL OVER THE LAST 

2393
01:15:24,019 --> 01:15:25,187
SEVERAL MONTHS, IT HAS BEEN NO 

2394
01:15:25,187 --> 01:15:27,623
SMALL FEAT. AS WE SAW DURING OUR

2395
01:15:27,623 --> 01:15:29,958
FIRST COMMITTEE HEARING, THIS 

2396
01:15:29,958 --> 01:15:31,093
BILL HAD OVER 30 MEMBERS SHOW UP

2397
01:15:31,093 --> 01:15:32,828
AND SPEAK IN FAVOR OF IT ON THE 

2398
01:15:32,828 --> 01:15:34,529
FIRST TIME THAT IT WAS HEARD. 

2399
01:15:34,529 --> 01:15:35,430
TODAY IS THE THIRD TIME THAT 

2400
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:36,798
WE'VE HAD IT IN COMMITTEE., AND

2401
01:15:36,798 --> 01:15:39,001
AS A MAJORITY RENTER CITY, WE 

2402
01:15:39,001 --> 01:15:40,102
KNOW AND WE SEE THERE'S A STRONG

2403
01:15:40,102 --> 01:15:42,638
DESIRE FOR US TO ACT AND MAKE 

2404
01:15:42,638 --> 01:15:43,138
OUR RENTAL MARKET MORE 

2405
01:15:43,138 --> 01:15:45,107
TRANSPARENT AND PUT A STOP TO 

2406
01:15:45,107 --> 01:15:47,042
EXCESSIVE RENTAL JUNK FEES IN 

2407
01:15:47,042 --> 01:15:48,844
THE CITY., I REALLY APPRECIATE 

2408
01:15:48,844 --> 01:15:49,444
ALL OF THE THOUGHTFUL 

2409
01:15:49,444 --> 01:15:50,646
ENGAGEMENT. I WANT TO APPRECIATE

2410
01:15:50,646 --> 01:15:52,915
THE FOLKS FROM THE STATE HOUSE 

2411
01:15:52,915 --> 01:15:54,349
STAY HEALTHY COALITION TENANTS, 

2412
01:15:54,349 --> 01:15:55,517
WHO'S BEEN HERE, THE TENANTS 

2413
01:15:55,517 --> 01:15:58,353
UNION, THE TRANSIT RIDERS UNION,

2414
01:15:58,353 --> 01:15:59,521
I'M FORGETTING OTHER PEOPLE, 

2415
01:15:59,521 --> 01:16:01,223
BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL

2416
01:16:01,223 --> 01:16:03,592
FOR SHOWING UP AND BEING SUCH A 

2417
01:16:03,592 --> 01:16:04,760
CONSISTENT PRESENCE AND SHARING 

2418
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,662
YOUR SUPPORT, INCLUDING WE HEARD

2419
01:16:06,662 --> 01:16:08,330
FROM SEATTLE HUMANE AND GOT 

2420
01:16:08,330 --> 01:16:09,898
GREEN AND OTHERS TODAY. AND 

2421
01:16:09,898 --> 01:16:11,066
APPRECIATE ALL OF THE 

2422
01:16:11,066 --> 01:16:12,134
STAKEHOLDER WORK THAT WAS DONE 

2423
01:16:12,134 --> 01:16:13,735
BEFORE THIS WAS SENT TO US HERE 

2424
01:16:13,735 --> 01:16:15,170
AT FULL COUNCIL., YOU KNOW, 

2425
01:16:15,170 --> 01:16:17,773
IT'S REALLY MY BELIEF THAT 

2426
01:16:17,773 --> 01:16:18,407
ENHANCING CONSUMER PROTECTIONS 

2427
01:16:18,407 --> 01:16:19,908
IN OUR CITY IS ONE OF THE WAYS 

2428
01:16:19,908 --> 01:16:22,344
THAT WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER FOR 

2429
01:16:22,344 --> 01:16:24,346
RENTERS TO UNDERSTAND THE COST 

2430
01:16:24,346 --> 01:16:25,447
OF HOUSING. ONE WAY THAT IT'S 

2431
01:16:25,447 --> 01:16:27,115
EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO COMPARE AND

2432
01:16:27,115 --> 01:16:28,483
MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY 

2433
01:16:28,483 --> 01:16:30,118
WANT TO LIVE, AND THAT THROUGH 

2434
01:16:30,118 --> 01:16:32,688
THAT COMPARISON, WE CAN SUPPORT 

2435
01:16:32,688 --> 01:16:33,221
GREATER AFFORDABILITY AND 

2436
01:16:33,221 --> 01:16:34,189
LIVABILITY FOR ALL OF OUR 

2437
01:16:34,189 --> 01:16:35,457
RESIDENTS. AND I THINK THIS 

2438
01:16:35,457 --> 01:16:36,591
LEGISLATION TAKES US A STEP 

2439
01:16:36,591 --> 01:16:38,493
FURTHER IN THAT DIRECTION., I 

2440
01:16:38,493 --> 01:16:41,296
THINK THIS IS A REALLY SMART WAY

2441
01:16:41,296 --> 01:16:42,531
TO ALLOW FOR COMPETITIVENESS AND

2442
01:16:42,531 --> 01:16:43,165
CLARITY AMONGST DIFFERENT KINDS 

2443
01:16:43,165 --> 01:16:45,667
OF LANDLORDS, BECAUSE WE WILL 

2444
01:16:45,667 --> 01:16:47,302
KNOW RENTERS WILL NO LONGER HAVE

2445
01:16:47,302 --> 01:16:47,936
TO WONDER WHETHER THE PRICE THEY

2446
01:16:47,936 --> 01:16:49,237
SEE ONLINE IS GOING TO BE THE 

2447
01:16:49,237 --> 01:16:50,505
PRICE THEY ARE GOING TO PAY WHEN

2448
01:16:50,505 --> 01:16:51,873
THEY ARRIVE. AND THAT'S AN 

2449
01:16:51,873 --> 01:16:52,841
IMPORTANT WAY OF MAKING SURE 

2450
01:16:52,841 --> 01:16:54,176
THAT LIFE IS BETTER FOR RENTERS,

2451
01:16:54,176 --> 01:16:55,544
BUT ALSO THAT LANDLORDS OF 

2452
01:16:55,544 --> 01:16:57,145
DIFFERENT SIZES ARE 

2453
01:16:57,145 --> 01:16:58,747
COMMUNICATING THE SAME THING TO 

2454
01:16:58,747 --> 01:17:00,615
THE PUBLIC., AND AS WE HEARD IN 

2455
01:17:00,615 --> 01:17:02,050
THE LAST PART OF THIS 

2456
01:17:02,050 --> 01:17:02,918
CONVERSATION, I BELIEVE WE'RE 

2457
01:17:02,918 --> 01:17:03,852
ALLOWING FOR THE RIGHT KIND OF 

2458
01:17:03,852 --> 01:17:05,721
ENFORCEMENT TOOLS TO ENSURE THAT

2459
01:17:05,721 --> 01:17:08,490
OUR LAWS ARE FOLLOWED., AND 

2460
01:17:08,490 --> 01:17:10,592
LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

2461
01:17:10,592 --> 01:17:11,159
THAT I THINK COUNCILMEMBER 

2462
01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:11,827
JUAREZ ALREADY DID THIS THROUGH 

2463
01:17:11,827 --> 01:17:13,628
SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. WE WILL 

2464
01:17:13,628 --> 01:17:15,130
BE TAKING UP, WE EXPECT TO GET 

2465
01:17:15,130 --> 01:17:17,632
LEGISLATION LATER ON THIS YEAR, 

2466
01:17:17,632 --> 01:17:19,368
THAT TACKLES THE HOW TO PAY FOR 

2467
01:17:19,368 --> 01:17:21,336
THE ENFORCEMENT COMPONENT. SO 

2468
01:17:21,336 --> 01:17:21,903
WITH THAT, I WILL SAY, I AM 

2469
01:17:21,903 --> 01:17:24,406
REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS 

2470
01:17:24,406 --> 01:17:26,441
BILL TO A VOTE. SO I MOVE THAT 

2471
01:17:26,441 --> 01:17:28,210
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND ADOPTION

2472
01:17:28,210 --> 01:17:29,778
OF COUNCIL BILL ONE, TWO, ONE, 

2473
01:17:29,778 --> 01:17:31,213
TWO, FIVE FOUR, AS AMENDED. IS 

2474
01:17:31,213 --> 01:17:32,981
THERE A SECOND? 

2475
01:17:32,981 --> 01:17:33,615
-- SECOND. 

2476
01:17:33,615 --> 01:17:35,550
-- IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO 

2477
01:17:35,550 --> 01:17:36,184
RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF THE BILL. 

2478
01:17:36,184 --> 01:17:42,157
ARE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? 

2479
01:17:42,157 --> 01:17:43,392
OKAY. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL

2480
01:17:43,392 --> 01:17:44,026
THE ROLL ON THE RECOMMENDATION 

2481
01:17:44,026 --> 01:17:48,096
TO ADOPT COUNCIL BILL 121254 AS 

2482
01:17:48,096 --> 01:17:48,363
AMENDED. 

2483
01:17:48,363 --> 01:17:48,830
-- COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

2484
01:17:48,830 --> 01:17:49,865
HOLLINGSWORTH. YES. 

2485
01:17:49,865 --> 01:17:51,700
COUNCILMEMBER. JUAREZ. HI. 

2486
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:53,168
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

2487
01:17:53,168 --> 01:17:53,402
-- YES. 

2488
01:17:53,402 --> 01:17:55,137
-- VICE CHAIR. LIN. YES. CHAIR 

2489
01:17:55,137 --> 01:17:56,004
FOSTER. 

2490
01:17:56,004 --> 01:17:56,405
-- YES. 

2491
01:17:56,405 --> 01:17:57,439
-- THERE ARE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR

2492
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:58,073
AND NONE OPPOSED. 

2493
01:17:58,073 --> 01:17:59,641
-- ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES

2494
01:17:59,641 --> 01:18:03,078
AND THE COMMITTEE CHAIR. 

2495
01:18:03,078 --> 01:18:06,415
-- [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE] 

2496
01:18:06,415 --> 01:18:06,948
-- THE MOTION CARRIES THE 

2497
01:18:06,948 --> 01:18:07,816
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT 

2498
01:18:07,816 --> 01:18:09,051
THE COUNCIL BILL BE ADOPTED, AS 

2499
01:18:09,051 --> 01:18:10,652
AMENDED, WILL BE SENT TO THE 

2500
01:18:10,652 --> 01:18:12,354
AUGUST 11th, 2026 CITY COUNCIL 

2501
01:18:12,354 --> 01:18:13,789
MEETING. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS 

2502
01:18:13,789 --> 01:18:15,023
OR QUESTIONS FOR COMMITTEE 

2503
01:18:15,023 --> 01:18:19,061
MEMBERS OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES THE

2504
01:18:19,061 --> 01:18:21,063
AUGUST 3rd, 2026 SPECIAL MEETING

2505
01:18:21,063 --> 01:18:21,930
OF THE HOUSING, ARTS AND CIVIL 

2506
01:18:21,930 --> 01:18:23,532
RIGHTS COMMITTEE. OUR NEXT 

2507
01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:24,566
SCHEDULED MEETING IS ON AUGUST 

2508
01:18:24,566 --> 01:18:25,734
12th. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 

2509
01:18:25,734 --> 01:18:27,936
ATTENDING. IT IS 3:21 P.M. AND 

2510
01:18:27,936 --> 01:18:30,706
WE ARE ADJOURNE

