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WILL COME TO ORDER. IT'S 9:33 

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A.M. I'M EDDIE LIN, THE CHAIR 

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OF THE COMMITTEE. WILL THE 

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SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 

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>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. 

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COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. 

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COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. 

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COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. FOUR 

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MEMBERS PRESENT. 

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>> GOOD MORNING, YOU ALL, THANK 

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YOU FOR COMING TO THIS WEDNESDAY

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MORNING MEETING. THANK YOU AS 

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ALWAYS TO OUR STAFF FOR HELPING 

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US PREPARE FOR THIS MEETING. SO 

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I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT

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OF HEADS UP. WE'VE GOT KIND OF 

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A LOT OF INTEREST IN A FEW ITEMS

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TODAY. WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY 

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DISCUSSION AROUND OUR SEPA 

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PROPOSAL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT

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CLEAR THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC 

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1st FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON 

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THAT. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME

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TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH US ON

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THAT. BUT I APPRECIATE THAT 

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THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE 

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TODAY. WE ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC 

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HEARING ON OUR PUBLIC 

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OPPORTUNITIES HOUSING. THAT WILL

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THE OTHER TWO ITEMS ON OUR 

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AGENDA. THE THIRD ITEM IS OUR 

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PROPOSED DATA CENTER MORATORIUM.

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WITH THAT, WE WILL NOW OPEN THE 

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PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. IT SHOULD

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RELATE TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. 

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ITEM ONE UNTIL THE PUBLIC 

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HEARING, WHICH WILL BE HELD 

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FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HYBRID 

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PERIOD. CLERK, HOW MANY SPEAKERS

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ARE SCHEDULED TODAY? 

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COMMENT SPEAKERS IN PERSON, AND 

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21 REMOTE. 

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TIME TO ONE MINUTE PER SPEAKER. 

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CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE 

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PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS? 

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>> THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 

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WILL BE MODERATED IN THE 

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FOLLOWING MANNER. THE PUBLIC 

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MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED

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CHIME WHEN TEN SECONDS ARE LEFT 

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OF THEIR TIME. SPEAKERS MICS 

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WILL BE MUTED IF THEY DO NOT END

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THEIR COMMENTS WITHIN THE 

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ALLOTTED TIME. THE PUBLIC 

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SPEAKER ON THE LIST. THAT IS 

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MAXIMILIAN BENAGE. 

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>> HI COUNCIL. 

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>> THERE ARE TWO MICS, AND YOU 

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DO NEED TO KIND OF SPEAK CLOSELY

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IN THE MIC FOR US TO HEAR IT. 

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>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. I AM 

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HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR A 

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MORATORIUM ON A.I. DATA CENTERS.

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MYSELF IN AN INCREASING 

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POPULATION OF PEOPLE WHO 

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THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, 

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A.I. AND I'M HERE TO MAKE SURE 

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THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT SOME OF 

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THEM. PETER TEAL, FOR SOME OF 

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YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW, IS AN A.I. 

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WEAPONS CONTRACTOR WHO DOES A 

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LOT OF BUSINESS WITH THE UNITED 

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STATES GOVERNMENT. WHEN ASKED IF

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HUMANITY SHOULD ENDURE OR NOT, 

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KNOW." ANTHROPIC'S CEO SAYS 

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BUILDING ANYMORE. I AM VERY 

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SCARED ABOUT THE FUTURE. AND I 

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LOVE THIS CITY, AND I JUST WANT 

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TREATING THIS LEGISLATION WITH 

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THE SEVERITY THAT WE SHOULD. 

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

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NATHANSON, AND BEN JONES. 

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>> THANK YOU. FIRST I WANT TO 

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THANK YOU FOR ACTING QUICKLY 

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TOWARDS A MORATORIUM. BUT I'M 

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CONCERNED ABOUT SECTION 1B, 

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WHICH MAKES A POINT OF SAYING 

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THAT DATA CENTERS ARE A 

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ENABLING BUSINESSES TO ACCESS 

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STORAGE CAPACITY. THIS IS A 

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MISUNDERSTANDING. ONE WHICH TECH

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COMPANIES HAVE ENCOURAGED. 

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REQUIRE VAST AMOUNTS OF COMPUTE 

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ENTIRETY OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE ON 

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THE INTERNET, AND THEN TO SPIT 

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OUT ANSWERS LIKELY TO PLEASE US.

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FEW IF ANY BENEFITS RELY ON 

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LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS. INSTEAD, 

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BREAST CANCER SCANS. IT DOES 

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SPEAK TO WHY WE NEED TO APPROACH

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THE SUPPOSED NECESSITY OF THESE 

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DATA CENTERS WITH A GIMLET EYE. 

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USEABLE TOOLS. THEIR GOAL IS TO 

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THROW A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY 

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AT A COMPUTER. 

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>> THANK YOU. 

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>> THANK YOU. AND PLEASE, GO 

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AHEAD IF YOU DON'T -- IF YOU'RE

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UNABLE TO PROVIDE YOUR FULL 

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COMMENTS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO 

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EMAIL THEM TO US, THANK YOU. 

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>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MY 

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NAME IS JAKE DOUGLAS. I LIVE IN 

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WEST SEATTLE, I'M HERE ON 

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BEHALF OF UNION UNIT 8. OUR 

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UNION BACKS THE MORATORIUM ON 

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NEW DATA CENTERS. SEATTLE'S 

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CRUSHING UNIT UNION MEMBERS. IN 

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PORTLAND, HOME ELECTRIC BILLS 

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HAVE GONE UP 50% IN THE LAST FEW

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YEARS, THANKS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY

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TO THE RECKLESS BUILD OUT OF NEW

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DATA CENTERS THERE. WE CAN'T 

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AFFORD THAT HERE. IF WE LET TECH

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BILLIONAIRES BRING MASSIVE NEW 

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DATA CENTERS TO SEATTLE, THEN 

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WILL BEAR THE BRUNT OF HIGHER 

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ENERGY COSTS, DISPLACEMENT, AND 

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ACCELERATED CLIMATE CHANGE. 

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THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LIN. 

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COUNCIL PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH,

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AND MAYOR WILSON FOR YOUR 

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LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE. THANK 

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>> IT WOULDN'T BE TOO DIFFICULT

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TO LIMIT DATA CENTERS. ALL YOU 

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HAVE TO DO IS CHARGE FOR 

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ELECTRICITY CORRECTLY. THE 

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CITIZENS OF THE CITY OWN THE 

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UTILITY, YET THEY PAY THE 

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BUSINESS WHERE THE OWNERS CHARGE

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THEMSELVES MORE THAN THEY DO 

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OTHER PEOPLE. WATER, SAME THING.

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DANGER OF HAVING A LOT OF THESE 

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CENTERS AROUND. AND BY THE WAY, 

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NOISE ORDINANCES THAT REALLY 

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WORK. IF YOU DID THESE THINGS, I

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THINK THAT WE WOULD DROP FROM 

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THE LIST OF PLACES THEY WANTED 

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TO BE. AND I THINK THE CITIZENS 

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OF THE CITY OF SEATTLE WOULD 

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ACTUALLY GET A BENEFIT. BECAUSE 

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IF YOU CHARGE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

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USING IT, WHO ARE NOT THEM, MORE

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MONEY. YOU CAN CHARGE THEM LESS.

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>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE RACHEL. 

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>> CITIZENS WERE GIVEN 48 HOURS 

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TO RESPOND TO CE1215. NO 

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MEANINGFUL PUBLIC INPUT. THIS IS

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ON TOP OF SECRET MEETINGS HELD 

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BY THE MAYOR, A MEETING THAT MY 

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COUNCIL REP WAS NOT INVITED TO, 

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AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT. AT 

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LAST WEEK'S HEARING, I HEARD 

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SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS SAY WE 

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MUST DO BETTER. FOR TWO YEARS 

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WE'VE BEEN BATTLING THE TRUMP 

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ADMINISTRATION'S POLICIES THAT 

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HAVE BEEN TAKING AWAY OUR 

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DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS. QUIETLY 

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REMOVING TITLE 5 LEGISLATIVE 

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DECISIONS DOES JUST THAT. TAKES 

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AWAY ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS. 

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THIS LOOKS BAD. THERE IS AN 

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APPEAL CURRENTLY BEING HEARD IN 

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COURT. YET THIS LEGISLATION 

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WOULD REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR 

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SUCH AN APPEAL. WHILE YOU MAY 

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FEEL SUCH CHECKS ON CITY ACTIONS

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ARE NO THE NEEDED, WE CITIZENS 

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HAVE FEW OPTIONS TO BE HEARD, 

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AND INVOLVED. PLEASE DO NOT 

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REMOVE ONE OF THEM. CITIZENS 

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SHOULD HAVE A PATH TO CHALLENGE 

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WHETHER THOSE IMPACTS WERE 

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PROPERLY STUDIED AND ADDRESSED. 

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THANK YOU. 

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>> THANK YOU. JUST GOING TO NOTE

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FOR FOLKS INTERESTED IN DATA 

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CENTERS THAT AT 2:00 P.M. TODAY,

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THERE'S ALSO A RESOLUTION BEING

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CONSIDERED IN COUNCILMEMBER 

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JUAREZ, SHE'S CHAIR OF THAT 

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COMMITTEE, ON SOME OF THESE 

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ISSUES AS WELL, INCLUDING THE 

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RATES. SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE 

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THAT FOR THE RECORD. PLEASE 

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PROCEED. 

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>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS BEN 

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JONES. 

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>> CAN YOU COME A LITTLE CLOSER?

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>> CLOSER? HOW IS THAT? GOOD 

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MORNING, MY NAME IS BEN. GOOD TO

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SEE YOU AGAIN. TESTIFYING IN 

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SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM ON 

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DATA CENTER CONSTRUCTION. AT 

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THIS POINT, THIS COUNCIL AND THE

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MAYOR HAVE RECEIVED OVER 90,000 

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MESSAGES IN SUPPORT OF A 

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MORATORIUM, IN THE CONVERSATIONS

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OFFER OUR MOBILIZING AROUND 

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THAT, WE HEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN 

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FROM PEOPLE THAT THESE DATA 

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CENTERS FEEL LIKE GIFTS TO THE 

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RICH AND GIFTS TO THE 

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BILLIONAIRES, AND PEOPLE FEEL 

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POWERLESS TO STOP THEM. LAST 

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YEAR, HALF OF ALL PROPOSED DATA 

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CENTERS WERE WITHDRAWN. WE'RE 

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IN THE MIDST OF A NATIONAL 

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BACKLASH AGAINST THIS 

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TECHNOLOGY, AGAINST THESE 

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FACILITIES. I THINK THIS 

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MORATORIUM IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO 

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SHOW THE WORLD THAT EVEN HERE IN

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THE HOME OF BIG TECH, THAT 

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PEOPLE REJECT THESE PROJECTS, 

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THAT THIS COUNCIL REJECTS THESE 

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PROJECTS. SO I URGE THIS COUNCIL

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TO SHOW LEADERSHIP, TO PROTECT 

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OUR CITY, TO PROTECT OUR WATER, 

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AND TO KEEP THIS PRESSES GOING, 

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AND THANK YOU FOR MOVING QUICKLY

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ON THIS. 

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>> THANK YOU. 

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>> NEXT IS JULIANA. 

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>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBER, 

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MY NAME IS NEIL, I'M A MEMBER 

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OF THE GEORGETOWN BUSINESS 

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ASSOCIATION AND A 16 YEAR 

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VETERAN OF THE TECH INDUSTRY, 

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WITH EIGHT YEARS AT GOOGLE, AND 

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FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AT AMAZON.

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SPEAKINGON BEHALF OF A 

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MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS. A 

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WELL DESIGNED DATA CENTER IS 

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HIGHLY EFFICIENT. IT'S FAULT 

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TOLERANT, AND SELF-SUFFICIENT. 

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TO BE CLEAR, THIS MEANS EVERY 

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PROPERTY THAT BECOMES A DATA 

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CENTER, NO LONGER CREATES JOBS, 

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NO LONGER CREATES JOB, INDUSTRY,

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OR LUNCHTIME CROWD OR VISITS TO 

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LOCAL BUSINESSES. IT JUST COSTS 

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MONEY. THAT MONEY COMES FROM 

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PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. IT COMES 

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FROM A LOST SALES TAX REVENUE, 

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BUT TO PUT A FINER POINT ON IT, 

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IT UNDOES ALL OF THE GOOD WORK 

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THIS COMMITTEE DID LAST 

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SEPTEMBER THAT ESTABLISHED A 

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CLIMATE SECURITY FUNDING 

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DISASTER PREP. GEORGETOWN NOW 

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HAS THREE AND A HALF WEEKS OF 

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FARMERS' MARKETS THAT ARE EBT 

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ELIGIBLE. LET'S NOT UNDO YOUR 

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GREAT WORK. THANK YOU. 

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>> THANK YOU. 

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>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. MY 

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NAME IS JULIANA. I'M A RESIDENT

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OF THE CENTRAL DISTRICT. I'M AN

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ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATE WITH A 

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INVESTED INTEREST IN HYPER LOCAL

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INSTANCES OF ENVIRONMENTAL 

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RACISM HERE IN THE CITY OF 

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SEATTLE AND THE SURROUNDING 

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DISTRICT. I KNOW UNFORTUNATELY, 

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MS. HOLLINGSWORTH ISN'T HERE IT

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TO CONNECT ON THAT, BUT WE'VE 

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SUPPORTED EACH OTHER. I'M 

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CONCERNED NEW DATA CENTERS WOULD

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EXPOSE OUR BIPOCK NEIGHBORS TO 

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MORE HARM, INCLUDING AN INCREASE

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OF AIR, WATER, NOISE, AND LIGHT 

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POLLUTION, UNDOING ALL OF THE 

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CITY'S EFFORTS TOWARDS 

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ACHIEVING AN ENVIRONMENTALLY 

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JUST SEATTLE. I URGE THE COUNCIL

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TO ADOPT THIS MORATORIUM. THANK 

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YOU. 

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>> THANK YOU. 

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>> NEXT UP WE HAVE SABRINA, 

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FOLLOWED BY CEDAR, AUDREY, 

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RENAISSANCE, AND DAVID. 

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>> MY NAME IS SABRINA. I HAVE A 

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SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ISSUE. I SAW 

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THAT TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 

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LAND USE AND ZONING IN A FEW 

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DIFFERENT AREAS. TALKING ABOUT 

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LAND USE AND ZONING 

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APPROPRIATELY, I WANT TO TALK 

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ABOUT AN ISSUE FROM THE LAST 

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DECADE, THE CLOSING OF THE 

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RUSSIAN EMBASSY, AND HERE IN 

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SEATTLE, IT'S THE ONLY EMBASSY 

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HERE IN THE WEST COAST AND IT 

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CREATED A POCKET OF A LOT OF 

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RUSSIANS THAT ARE USED TO HAVING

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THE EMBASSY IN SEATTLE. THE ONLY

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OTHER EMBASSY IN THE U.S. IS IN 

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WASHINGTON, D.C. I WAS HOPING 

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THE COUNCIL COULD KEEP THAT ON 

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THE BACK BURNER AND HOPEFULLY 

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GET THAT EMBASSY REOPENED. THANK

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YOU. 

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>> THANK YOU. 

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>>  NEXT UP WE HAVE CEDAR. 

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>> SINCE I ONLY HAVE A MINUTE 

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HERE, I'M GOING TO GET DOWN TO 

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THE BRASS TAX. I THOUGHT I'D 

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HAVE THREE. BUT TO START OFF 

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WITH IMPLEMENTING THE MASS 

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SURVEILLANCE CENTERS ALSO KNOWN 

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AS DATA CENTERS WOULD FURTHER 

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ENCOURAGE THE LACK OF RESOURCES 

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THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING IN THIS

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COUNTRY. WE ARE PROJECTED TO GO 

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THROUGH A FOOD SHORTAGE IN THE 

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FALL, SO THIS WILL ALSO HURT OUR

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FOOD AND WATER CRISIS THAT WE 

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ARE ALREADY GOING THROUGH IN 

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MANY PLACES IN AMERICA. 

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SURPRISINGLY, THOUGH, THIS WOULD

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FIT QUITE WELL OF THE HISTORY OF

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GENOCIDE IN THIS COUNTRY. WE'VE

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ALWAYS BEEN A WHITE POWER 

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STRUCTURE HERE, AND IT LOOKS 

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LIKE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING 

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THAT WAY, ESPECIALLY IF THE DATA

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CENTERS ARE IMPLEMENTED, BECAUSE

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WITH THE LACK OF RESOURCES IS 

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GOING TO LEAD TO MORE FASCISM, 

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WHICH IS NEVER A GOOD THING. MY 

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CERTAIN PARTS OF MY WEALTHY 

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FAMILY, THOUGH, WOULD ENJOY 

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THIS, WHICH IS WHY I NO LONGER 

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TALK TO THEM, AND BECAUSE THEY 

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WOULD -- 

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>> THANK YOU, CEDAR. 

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>> THANK YOU. 

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>> NEXT UP WE HAVE AUDREY, 

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FOLLOWED BY RENAISSANCE, DAVID, 

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ALICIA, AND JACQUELINE. 

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>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. GOOD 

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MORNING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS 

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AUDREY. I'M AN ELECTRICAL 

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ENGINEER SPECIALIZING IN POWER 

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AND RENEWABLE ENERGY AND I LIVE 

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IN DISTRICT TWO. I LEAD OUT IN 

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CLIMATE, AS AN EXPERT IN THE 

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FIELD OF ENERGY AND 

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SUSTAINABILITY, I URGE YOU TO 

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APPROVE THE MORATORIUM ON DATA 

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CENTERS. A PHRASE OFTEN UTTERED 

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WITHIN THE TECH INDUSTRY IS MOVE

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FAST AND BREAK THINGS. WE MUST 

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NOT LET THEM MOVE FAST AND BREAK

411
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OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. OUR

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POWER GRID IS NOT PREPARED TO 

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HANDLE LARGE LOAD DATA CENTERS. 

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IT WOULD MEAN HIGHER PRICES FOR 

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SEATTLEITES. DATA CENTERS IN 

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SEATTLE WOULD ALSO MEAN OUR 

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FRESHWATER WOULD BE SPENT ON 

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COOLING PRIVATELY OWNED SERVERS,

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INSTEAD OF NOURISHING OUR 

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FARMERS AND FISHERIES, WHICH 

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HAVE BECOME UNATTAINABLE, SINCE 

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THE STATE HAS BEEN DECLARED A 

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DROUGHT ZONE FOR 2026, SO A 

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MORATORIUM WOULD GIVE US ENOUGH 

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TIME TO ENSURE SAFEGUARDS TO 

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PROTECT OUR CITY. THANK YOU. 

427
00:16:22,915 --> 00:16:29,621
>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE 

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DAVID. 

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>> MY NAME IS RENAISSANCE. 

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>> I APOLOGIZE. 

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>> I'M IN FAVOR OF THE 

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MORATORIUMS AGAINST THE DATA 

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CENTERS. NOW IT'S NOT THAT DATA

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CENTERS DO NOT PROVIDE SOME 

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BENEFIT TO OUR SOCIETY, BUT THE 

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COST AND THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF

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DATA CENTERS, ESPECIALLY RIGHT 

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NOW, AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN OUR 

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CIRCUMSTANCES ARE SIMPLY TOO 

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GREAT TO JUSTIFY THE EXPENSE. 

441
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THE LOAN TO AFFORD THIS COST IS 

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OFTEN THE CASE, WILL COME FROM 

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THE POOREST, AND THE MOST 

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MARGINALIZED WITHOUT OUR 

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00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:03,322
CONSENT. THE CITY WILL BE 

446
00:17:03,322 --> 00:17:04,757
PERMITTING THE STEALING FROM OUR

447
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POWER SUPPLY AND ABILITY TO 

448
00:17:07,159 --> 00:17:09,161
AFFORD THAT POWER. PRICES ARE 

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ALREADY RISING, AND IN SOME 

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CASES, SPIKING LIKE WITH GAS. 

451
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THE CITY WILL BE PERMITTING 

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STEALS FROM OUR PRECIOUS WATER 

453
00:17:18,203 --> 00:17:19,571
SUPPLY. A DROUGHT HAS ALREADY 

454
00:17:19,571 --> 00:17:20,606
BEEN DECLARED, AND THAT IS ONLY 

455
00:17:20,606 --> 00:17:23,709
GOING TO GET WORSE WITH CLIMATE 

456
00:17:23,709 --> 00:17:28,380
CHANGE. WE MAY BE NOT ABLE TO 

457
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STOP THE PROLIFERATIONS OF A.I. 

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DATA CENTERS, BUT WE CAN AT 

459
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LEAST -- 

460
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>> THANK YOU, RENAISSANCE. 

461
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>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE 

462
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DAVID, FOLLOWED BY ALICIA, 

463
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JACQUELINE, THOMAS, AND 

464
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JENNIFER. 

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>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. I URGE

466
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YOU TO VOTE NO ON COUNSEL BILL 

467
00:17:57,342 --> 00:17:59,411
211215, THAT REMOVES THE APPEAL 

468
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PROCESS FOR EISs. IT CLAIMS THAT

469
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APPEALS HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED TO 

470
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SLOW COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, 

471
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SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 

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HOWEVER, IF THERE'S NO PROOF OF

473
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THIS, BUT THE CITY IS ALLEGING 

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THIS AS FACT. APPEALS ARE FILED 

475
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BECAUSE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE 

476
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ENVIRONMENT, NOT TO BLOCK 

477
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AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE DOCUMENT

478
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:19,031
ALSO CLAIMS THE BILL WILL ALIGN 

479
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CITY CODE WITH STATE CODE. THIS 

480
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IS ALSO NOT TRUE. THIS BILL, AND

481
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ITS SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE 

482
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TYPICAL OF THE FEDERAL 

483
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GOVERNMENT, FULL OF LIES AND 

484
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DECEPTIONS. I THOUGHT SEATTLE 

485
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AND PROGRESSIVES CARED ABOUT THE

486
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ENVIRONMENT, BUT THIS IS AN 

487
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ATTEMPT TO EXEMPT CITY RESIDENTS

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FROM ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS. 

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FOR THE RECORD, THE CURRENT 

490
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APPEAL AGAINST THE EIS IS DUE TO

491
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LEGAL DELAYS BY CITY ATTORNEYS, 

492
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NOT THE APPEAL PROCESS. DESPITE 

493
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THE APPEAL, THOUSANDS OF 

494
00:18:48,393 --> 00:18:49,495
DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS HAVE 

495
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COME IN FROM PHASE ONE OF THE 

496
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COMP PLAN. VOTE NO ON COUNSEL 

497
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BILL 211-2125. THANK YOU. 

498
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>> THANK YOU. 

499
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>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, AND 

500
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MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY 

501
00:19:11,216 --> 00:19:16,622
NAME IS ALICIA, WITH HABITAT FOR

502
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HUMANITY. WE'RE HERE IN STRONG 

503
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SUPPORT OF COUNSEL BILL 1215. 

504
00:19:21,126 --> 00:19:22,628
ADMINISTRATIVE SEPA APPEALS HAVE

505
00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:26,098
ADDED MONTHS OF DELAY TO THAT 

506
00:19:26,098 --> 00:19:27,399
PROCESS. IMPORTANTLY, STATE LAW 

507
00:19:27,399 --> 00:19:29,401
DOESN'T REQUIRE THESE APPEALS 

508
00:19:29,401 --> 00:19:30,802
AND FULL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW 

509
00:19:30,802 --> 00:19:33,105
REMAINS IN TACT UNDER THIS BILL.

510
00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:38,010
SEATTLE IS SIMPLY CHOOSING TO 

511
00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:39,178
REMOVE THE REDUNDANT PROCEDURAL 

512
00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:41,747
POLICY. THIS BRINGS SEATTLE IN 

513
00:19:41,747 --> 00:19:45,183
LINE WITH KING COUNTY, BELLEVUE,

514
00:19:45,183 --> 00:19:50,656
TACOMA, AND EVERETT, ALL OF 

515
00:19:50,656 --> 00:19:52,724
WHICH, ALREADY LEGISLATE SEPA 

516
00:19:52,724 --> 00:19:54,159
DECISIONS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL 

517
00:19:54,159 --> 00:19:58,263
REVIEW. THAT'S NOT A ROLL BACK 

518
00:19:58,263 --> 00:20:01,700
OF STANDARDS. THIS BILL WILL 

519
00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:02,935
HELP REIGN IN UNNECESSARY 

520
00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:04,603
DELAYS, AND EVERY DAY DELAYED IS

521
00:20:04,603 --> 00:20:05,504
ANOTHER DAY A FAMILY GOES 

522
00:20:05,504 --> 00:20:08,207
WITHOUT A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD. 

523
00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:10,275
THAT'S WHY WE SUPPORT THIS 

524
00:20:10,275 --> 00:20:10,609
BILL. 

525
00:20:10,609 --> 00:20:14,279
>> THANK YOU. 

526
00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:22,087
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE JACQUELINE, 

527
00:20:22,087 --> 00:20:24,056
FOLLOWED BY THOMAS, JENNIFER, 

528
00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:24,489
AND JACKIE. 

529
00:20:24,489 --> 00:20:25,057
>> HELLO. I'M JACQUELINE 

530
00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:27,593
GORDON, I'M FROM DISTRICT FOUR,

531
00:20:27,593 --> 00:20:32,598
AND I SUPPORT THE DATA CENTER 

532
00:20:32,598 --> 00:20:35,601
MORATORIUM. I WORK FOR A TECH 

533
00:20:35,601 --> 00:20:36,768
COMPANY THAT SUPPORTS A.I. EVERY

534
00:20:36,768 --> 00:20:38,503
DAY I HEAR A.I. IS THE FUTURE, 

535
00:20:38,503 --> 00:20:41,807
SO WHAT IS THAT FUTURE? A FUTURE

536
00:20:41,807 --> 00:20:43,408
WHERE CITIZENS HAVE ASTRONOMICAL

537
00:20:43,408 --> 00:20:45,577
POWER BILLS? A FUTURE WHERE MANY

538
00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:48,247
JOBS HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED, AS 

539
00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:49,848
MANY TECH CEOS HAVE OPENLY 

540
00:20:49,848 --> 00:20:50,782
GLOATED ABOUT WANTING? BEING 

541
00:20:50,782 --> 00:20:55,187
HERE IS NOT HOW I WANT TO SPEND 

542
00:20:55,187 --> 00:20:56,989
MY DAYS OFF EVERY YEAR, BUT I'M

543
00:20:56,989 --> 00:20:58,824
COMING HERE FROM NORTHERN 

544
00:20:58,824 --> 00:20:59,858
CALIFORNIA. RIGHT NOW IN 

545
00:20:59,858 --> 00:21:00,759
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND LAKE 

546
00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,562
TAHOE, A UTILITY COMPANY IS 

547
00:21:03,562 --> 00:21:04,763
PREPARING TO CUT POWER TO 

548
00:21:04,763 --> 00:21:06,398
PEOPLE'S HOMES TO DIVERT TO A 

549
00:21:06,398 --> 00:21:07,599
DATA CENTER. WE DO NOT HAVE TIME

550
00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:10,168
TO TRUST WHAT TECH COMPANIES SAY

551
00:21:10,168 --> 00:21:12,237
THEY WILL DO, AND HOW 

552
00:21:12,237 --> 00:21:13,505
RESPONSIBLE THEY WILL BE. THEY 

553
00:21:13,505 --> 00:21:14,072
HAVE CONTINUALLY LIED TO US 

554
00:21:14,072 --> 00:21:15,774
EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. A.I. MAY 

555
00:21:15,774 --> 00:21:17,009
BE INVESTING IN THE FUTURE, BUT 

556
00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:19,111
THAT FUTURE IS A RISING SEA AND 

557
00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:20,879
A SINKING SHIP. 

558
00:21:20,879 --> 00:21:30,422
>> THANK YOU. 

559
00:21:30,422 --> 00:21:33,792
>> HI. MY NAME IS THOMAS MYER. I

560
00:21:33,792 --> 00:21:35,627
LIVE IN DISTRICT 2. I'M AN 

561
00:21:35,627 --> 00:21:39,364
ORGANIZER WITH FOOD AND WATER 

562
00:21:39,364 --> 00:21:40,432
WATCH. IT'S A JUSTICE GROUP 

563
00:21:40,432 --> 00:21:42,567
FIGHTING FOR SAFE FOOD, CLEAN 

564
00:21:42,567 --> 00:21:44,202
WATER, AND A LIVABLE CLIMATE. 

565
00:21:44,202 --> 00:21:46,905
I'LL JUST SHARE ONE FACT FROM 

566
00:21:46,905 --> 00:21:49,107
FOOD AND WATER WATCH'S RECENT 

567
00:21:49,107 --> 00:21:53,445
REPORT LAYING OUT WHY A DATA 

568
00:21:53,445 --> 00:21:54,179
CENTER MORATORIUM IS URGENTLY 

569
00:21:54,179 --> 00:21:58,884
NEEDED IN SEATTLE AND ACROSS THE

570
00:21:58,884 --> 00:22:00,385
COUNTRY. IT'S ESTIMATED THEY 

571
00:22:00,385 --> 00:22:04,089
COULD USE AS MUCH AS 727 

572
00:22:04,089 --> 00:22:05,357
BILLION-GALLON OF WATER EVERY 

573
00:22:05,357 --> 00:22:06,591
YEAR, JUST FOR COOLING. IT'S 

574
00:22:06,591 --> 00:22:08,460
SIX TIMES AS MANY HOUSEHOLDS AS 

575
00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:09,428
THE ENTIRE STATE OF WASHINGTON. 

576
00:22:09,428 --> 00:22:11,730
FOR THAT REASON AND MANY MORE, I

577
00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:13,031
URGE YOU TO SUPPORT A MORATORIUM

578
00:22:13,031 --> 00:22:22,240
ON DATA CENTERS IN SEATTLE. 

579
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:22,541
THANK YOU. 

580
00:22:22,541 --> 00:22:26,645
>> THANK YOU. 

581
00:22:26,645 --> 00:22:28,513
>> GOOD MORNING. I'M AWARE THAT

582
00:22:28,513 --> 00:22:31,583
BILL 121215 IS A RESPONSE TO MY 

583
00:22:31,583 --> 00:22:34,353
ENVIRONMENTAL APPEAL. IN THE 

584
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:36,088
COURT OF APPEALS, JUDGE DAVID S.

585
00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:37,289
MAN, ASKED A COUNCIL HOW THEY 

586
00:22:37,289 --> 00:22:38,724
WILL KNOW THEY HAVE THE BEST 

587
00:22:38,724 --> 00:22:40,025
INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THEM? 

588
00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:42,961
CITY COUNCIL COULD NOT ANSWER 

589
00:22:42,961 --> 00:22:45,530
THAT. IF WE WANT CLEAN AIR AND 

590
00:22:45,530 --> 00:22:48,100
WATER, WE CANNOT LET PEOPLE WHO 

591
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:52,037
DECIDE THESE THINGS DECIDE AS 

592
00:22:52,037 --> 00:22:53,071
MUCH. HERE IS A RECORDING. 

593
00:22:53,071 --> 00:22:54,740
>> WHY WOULD THE LEGISLATURE 

594
00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:57,242
INTEND TO ALLOW THE CITY TO HAVE

595
00:22:57,242 --> 00:22:59,044
THE BEST INFORMATION BEFORE 

596
00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:00,479
IT'S DECIDED? ONCE THE CITY 

597
00:23:00,479 --> 00:23:03,448
MAKES THAT DECISION, FINE, THE 

598
00:23:03,448 --> 00:23:04,950
LEGISLATURE IS TAKEN AWAY -- 

599
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:05,283
>> BECAUSE. 

600
00:23:05,283 --> 00:23:06,118
>> WHY WOULDN'T THE LEGISLATURE

601
00:23:06,118 --> 00:23:08,553
STILL ALLOW THE CITY TO STILL 

602
00:23:08,553 --> 00:23:12,657
HAVE THE BEST INFORMATION IN 

603
00:23:12,657 --> 00:23:15,761
FRONT OF IT? JUST SAY SEPA IS 

604
00:23:15,761 --> 00:23:15,961
DONE. 

605
00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:19,431
>> THEY COULD. IT IS THE 

606
00:23:19,431 --> 00:23:20,031
LEGISLATOR'S PREROGATIVE. 

607
00:23:20,031 --> 00:23:22,234
>> BUT THEY DIDN'T. 

608
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,235
>> THEY PASSED THIS STATUTE -- 

609
00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:23,735
>> THANK YOU. 

610
00:23:23,735 --> 00:23:32,411
>> THANK YOU. 

611
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:42,888
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE JACKIE. 

612
00:23:44,823 --> 00:23:46,958
>> THERE'S A 2025 SURVEY THAT 

613
00:23:46,958 --> 00:23:50,295
WAS CREATED BY THE SEATTLE METRO

614
00:23:50,295 --> 00:23:51,663
CHAMBER. IN IT, 75% OF THE 

615
00:23:51,663 --> 00:23:55,167
PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY 

616
00:23:55,167 --> 00:23:56,902
THAT RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY 

617
00:23:56,902 --> 00:23:58,503
SAID THAT THEY, THE ENVIRONMENT,

618
00:23:58,503 --> 00:24:01,506
AND OUTDOOR ACCESS IS A TOP 

619
00:24:01,506 --> 00:24:03,642
REASON FOR LIVING IN SEATTLE, 

620
00:24:03,642 --> 00:24:05,610
ALONG WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND 

621
00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:06,711
CULTURE, WHICH INCLUDES TREE 

622
00:24:06,711 --> 00:24:08,647
CANOPY, AND AN ADDITIONAL 10% 

623
00:24:08,647 --> 00:24:09,948
CHOSE SEATTLE FOR ITS CLIMATE, 

624
00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:14,352
JUST LIKE THE OTHER JACKIE THAT 

625
00:24:14,352 --> 00:24:15,153
JUST SPOKE. 75% OF OUR RESIDENTS

626
00:24:15,153 --> 00:24:20,058
CLAIM THAT THEY WANT TO BE HERE 

627
00:24:20,058 --> 00:24:21,126
BECAUSE OF OUR ENVIRONMENT. 

628
00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:23,428
HOWEVER 121215 TAKES AWAY THE 

629
00:24:23,428 --> 00:24:25,430
RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO APPEAL, AND 

630
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:26,998
HAVE THE AND TO APPEAL WHEN 

631
00:24:26,998 --> 00:24:29,768
SOMETHING IS GOING WRONG 

632
00:24:29,768 --> 00:24:30,368
COUNTERTO THE ENVIRONMENT. IF 

633
00:24:30,368 --> 00:24:31,903
THIS IS OUR CITY, 75% OF THE 

634
00:24:31,903 --> 00:24:34,573
PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE 

635
00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:35,607
ENVIRONMENT MATTERS. THANK YOU. 

636
00:24:35,607 --> 00:24:36,575
>> THANK YOU. 

637
00:24:36,575 --> 00:24:39,077
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE LAUREN, 

638
00:24:39,077 --> 00:24:46,852
FOLLOWED BY SUSAN, AND PAUL. 

639
00:24:46,852 --> 00:24:51,756
>> HI, MY NAME IS LAUREN. I'M A

640
00:24:51,756 --> 00:24:54,192
RENTER ANDRESIDENT OF DISTRICT 6

641
00:24:54,192 --> 00:24:58,029
IN SEATTLE. A BACKGROUND IN 

642
00:24:58,029 --> 00:24:58,964
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I CARE 

643
00:24:58,964 --> 00:25:02,133
DEEPLY ABOUT THE LONG TERM 

644
00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:03,268
RESILIENCY OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND

645
00:25:03,268 --> 00:25:07,339
PUSH THE COUNCIL TO GO FORWARD 

646
00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:09,341
ON THE MORATORIUM. THERE'S MAJOR

647
00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:10,876
UNCERTAINTY AROUND THE LONG TERM

648
00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:18,216
PROFITABILITY IN THE A.I. SECTOR

649
00:25:18,216 --> 00:25:22,854
WITH. A.I. FARMS COULD FACE AN 

650
00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:24,823
AN $800 BILLION DEFICIT -- THIS 

651
00:25:24,823 --> 00:25:26,925
MORATORIUM IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

652
00:25:26,925 --> 00:25:27,859
GOVERNMENTS THAT PUTS DURABLE 

653
00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,528
COMMUNITY NEEDS FIRST, RATHER 

654
00:25:30,528 --> 00:25:32,631
THAN THROWING OUR CITY INTO 

655
00:25:32,631 --> 00:25:33,665
ANOTHER TECHNOLOGICAL GOLD RUSH.

656
00:25:33,665 --> 00:25:37,102
I URGE THE COUNCIL TO MOVE 

657
00:25:37,102 --> 00:25:38,336
FORWARD WITH THE MORATORIUM. 

658
00:25:38,336 --> 00:25:39,371
>> THANK YOU. 

659
00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:40,739
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE SUSAN, 

660
00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:45,477
FOLLOWED BY PAUL. 

661
00:25:45,477 --> 00:25:50,181
>> GOOD MORNING. COUNCIL BILL 

662
00:25:50,181 --> 00:25:52,918
121196 JUMPS AHEAD OF THE 

663
00:25:52,918 --> 00:25:53,785
MAYOR'S OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 

664
00:25:53,785 --> 00:25:54,786
PROCESS, UPZONING SEVEN YEARS OF

665
00:25:54,786 --> 00:25:55,453
THE CITY NOW. 

666
00:25:55,453 --> 00:25:59,391
>> COULD YOU HOLD ON ONE SECOND?

667
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:00,525
WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 

668
00:26:00,525 --> 00:26:03,395
THAT BILL, SO IT WOULD BE BETTER

669
00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:07,599
IF YOU COULD SPEAK DURING -- 

670
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:07,999
IT'S ALL GOOD. 

671
00:26:07,999 --> 00:26:10,302
>> IS THIS COUNCIL BILL 121215? 

672
00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:11,569
MAY I SPEAK TO THAT, THEN? 

673
00:26:11,569 --> 00:26:15,574
>> YES. THAT WOULD BE BETTER, 

674
00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:19,511
THEN YOU CAN SIGN UP DURING THE 

675
00:26:19,511 --> 00:26:19,911
PUBLIC HEARING. 

676
00:26:19,911 --> 00:26:26,251
>> THANKS FOR THE PAUSE BUTTON. 

677
00:26:26,251 --> 00:26:27,953
THE PROVISION BILL -- AMENDMENT 

678
00:26:27,953 --> 00:26:34,492
TO THE HEARING EXAMER. I'M 

679
00:26:34,492 --> 00:26:35,727
CURIOUS TO KNOW THE RATIONALE 

680
00:26:35,727 --> 00:26:38,330
BEHIND THIS EXEMPTION, 

681
00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:42,467
ESPECIALLY WITH WHEN THE VOICES 

682
00:26:42,467 --> 00:26:43,134
THAT CARRY ENVIRONMENTAL WISDOM 

683
00:26:43,134 --> 00:26:45,403
AND EXPERTISE HAVE NOT BEEN 

684
00:26:45,403 --> 00:26:46,938
WELCOMED TO THE CLOSED DOOR 

685
00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:47,439
PLANNING DISCUSSIONS. 

686
00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:49,641
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS ASKING FOR 

687
00:26:49,641 --> 00:26:51,676
A SEAT AT THE TABLE WERE 

688
00:26:51,676 --> 00:26:53,945
ACTIVELY DISMISSED. WITH HOUSING

689
00:26:53,945 --> 00:26:56,581
STOCK WELL ABOVE LAST YEAR AND 

690
00:26:56,581 --> 00:26:59,851
UNEMPLOYMENT RATES RAISING, THIS

691
00:26:59,851 --> 00:27:03,588
IS AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO STOP AND

692
00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:04,155
FULLY LOOK OVER CLIMATE 

693
00:27:04,155 --> 00:27:04,689
IMPLICATIONS. THANK YOU. 

694
00:27:04,689 --> 00:27:09,094
>> THANK YOU. 

695
00:27:09,094 --> 00:27:13,164
>> HI. PEOPLE HERE HAVE RAISED 

696
00:27:13,164 --> 00:27:14,599
MANY ISSUES WITH DATA CENTERS. I

697
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:15,233
JUST WANTED TO WARN AGAINST THE 

698
00:27:15,233 --> 00:27:19,070
FOOLISH IDEA THAT WE CAN AVOID 

699
00:27:19,070 --> 00:27:25,977
ALL OF THAT WITH PROPER 

700
00:27:25,977 --> 00:27:27,312
REGULATION. IN MISSISSIPPI,er 

701
00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:28,213
OUR DATA CENTERS HAVE BEEN 

702
00:27:28,213 --> 00:27:30,815
RUNNING GAS [ INAUDIBLE ] 

703
00:27:30,815 --> 00:27:31,383
WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION. THEY 

704
00:27:31,383 --> 00:27:33,685
DISCOVERED THAT ANOTHER DATA 

705
00:27:33,685 --> 00:27:34,853
CENTER STOLE 13 MILLION GALLONS 

706
00:27:34,853 --> 00:27:37,322
OF WATER. MY POINT IS THOSE 

707
00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:38,590
PEOPLE HAVE A RECURRING 

708
00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:42,060
STRATEGY, BREAK THINGS, BREAK 

709
00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:45,530
THE LAW, AND MAYBE ASK FOR 

710
00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:46,464
FORGIVENESS LATER. THE CURRENT 

711
00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:48,299
ADMINISTRATION HAS ONLY WORSENED

712
00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:49,634
THE SITUATION. THAT'S JUST MY 

713
00:27:49,634 --> 00:27:50,201
OWN POINT. DON'T TRY TO 

714
00:27:50,201 --> 00:27:54,339
REGULATE AND HOPE IT WILL BE 

715
00:27:54,339 --> 00:27:55,206
OKAY. THEY DON'T CARE. THANK 

716
00:27:55,206 --> 00:27:55,407
YOU. 

717
00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:59,778
>> THANK YOU. 

718
00:27:59,778 --> 00:28:06,317
>> THAT IS OUR LAST IN-PERSON 

719
00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:08,686
COMMENTER. WE'LL NOW MOVE ONTO 

720
00:28:08,686 --> 00:28:09,988
OUR REMOTE COMMENTERS. WE'LL 

721
00:28:09,988 --> 00:28:20,298
START WITH EMILY. 

722
00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:23,435
>> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? 

723
00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:23,701
>> YES. 

724
00:28:23,701 --> 00:28:34,045
>> HI, MY NAME IS EMILY, I'M 

725
00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:39,150
HERE TO OPPOSE BOTH CB121196, 

726
00:28:39,150 --> 00:28:41,486
AND CB121219. SEATTLE SHOULD BE 

727
00:28:41,486 --> 00:28:43,088
GROUND IN TRANSPARENCY, AND 

728
00:28:43,088 --> 00:28:44,956
EQUITY, AND ENGAGEMENT, INSTEAD 

729
00:28:44,956 --> 00:28:47,459
OF MAJOR LAND USE REGULATIONS 

730
00:28:47,459 --> 00:28:49,027
LIMITING THE ABILITY OF 

731
00:28:49,027 --> 00:28:50,128
RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN 

732
00:28:50,128 --> 00:28:54,466
DECISIONS THAT WILL SHAPE OUR 

733
00:28:54,466 --> 00:28:56,134
NEIGHBORHOODS FOR GENERATIONS. 

734
00:28:56,134 --> 00:28:57,402
121215 WILL REMOVE THE PUBLIC'S

735
00:28:57,402 --> 00:28:58,670
ABILITY TO APPEAL AND 

736
00:28:58,670 --> 00:28:59,838
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULAR LACES, 

737
00:28:59,838 --> 00:29:04,008
THIS IS A GIVEAWAY TO DEVELOPERS

738
00:29:04,008 --> 00:29:07,946
AND DEEPLY CONCERNING. 

739
00:29:07,946 --> 00:29:08,947
SEATTLE'S ENVIRONMENT, OUR 

740
00:29:08,947 --> 00:29:09,714
TREES, NEIGHBORHOODS, 

741
00:29:09,714 --> 00:29:11,249
WALKABILITY, AND ACCESS TO GREEN

742
00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:13,551
SPACE MAKE THE CITY SPECIAL. 

743
00:29:13,551 --> 00:29:14,719
THESE ARE NOT OPTIONAL. THEY'RE

744
00:29:14,719 --> 00:29:19,190
PART OF WHAT EVERYONE LIVES HERE

745
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:23,194
WANTS TO BENEFIT FROM. DO NOT 

746
00:29:23,194 --> 00:29:24,095
ACCEPT THIS PROPOSAL UNTIL 

747
00:29:24,095 --> 00:29:27,866
THERE'S TRANSPARENT ENGAGEMENT.

748
00:29:27,866 --> 00:29:30,802
THANK YOU. 

749
00:29:30,802 --> 00:29:36,040
>> THANK YOU. 

750
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,145
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE ANDREA. 

751
00:29:40,145 --> 00:29:47,352
ANDREA, PLEASE PRESS STAR 6. 

752
00:29:47,352 --> 00:29:53,658
>> HELLO MY NAME IS ANDREA, AND 

753
00:29:53,658 --> 00:29:57,629
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE 

754
00:29:57,629 --> 00:29:58,296
PROPOSED LEGISLATION, CB121196. 

755
00:29:58,296 --> 00:30:01,366
I OWN FOUR PARCELS ON ONE OF THE

756
00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:04,736
BLOCKS THAT IS CONSIDERED FOR 

757
00:30:04,736 --> 00:30:06,404
THE FREMONT ZONE. THIS BLOCK IS 

758
00:30:06,404 --> 00:30:08,873
LOCATED ON NORTH STONE WAY. I'M

759
00:30:08,873 --> 00:30:12,677
A FIFTH GENERATION OWNER AND 

760
00:30:12,677 --> 00:30:13,811
MANAGER OF THESE PROPERTIES. MY 

761
00:30:13,811 --> 00:30:14,546
GREAT GRANDPARENTS FIRST BOUGHT 

762
00:30:14,546 --> 00:30:18,216
ONE OF THE PARCELS AND MADE IT 

763
00:30:18,216 --> 00:30:20,385
THEIR HOME. I'VE WATCHED THE 

764
00:30:20,385 --> 00:30:22,487
COMMUNITY EVOLVE OVER FOUR 

765
00:30:22,487 --> 00:30:26,724
DECADES. MY CONCERN IS IT WILL 

766
00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:33,331
ENABLE THE BUILDING OF FUTURE 

767
00:30:33,331 --> 00:30:34,899
HOUSING. IDEALLY, THIS WILL 

768
00:30:34,899 --> 00:30:35,667
EMPHASIZE SMALL PUBLIC SPACE. 

769
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:36,935
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO

770
00:30:36,935 --> 00:30:37,802
PROVIDE MY COMMENTS. 

771
00:30:37,802 --> 00:30:39,771
>> THANK YOU. 

772
00:30:39,771 --> 00:30:50,014
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE CINDY. HI, 

773
00:30:50,014 --> 00:30:52,517
GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 

774
00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:57,488
THIS IS SANDY WITH TREE ACTION 

775
00:30:57,488 --> 00:30:59,424
SEATTLE. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW CB 

776
00:30:59,424 --> 00:31:03,394
121215 TO ADVANCE. AS YOU'VE 

777
00:31:03,394 --> 00:31:04,562
JUST HEARD. THE ORCA APPEAL WAS 

778
00:31:04,562 --> 00:31:09,801
HEARD AT THE WASHINGTON STATE 

779
00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:10,868
COURT OF APPEALS. JUDGE DAVID 

780
00:31:10,868 --> 00:31:12,237
MAN ASKED SEATTLE CITY'S 

781
00:31:12,237 --> 00:31:12,837
ATTORNEY THREE TIMES WHY 

782
00:31:12,837 --> 00:31:15,039
WOULDN'T THE CITY COUNCIL WANT 

783
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:17,008
TO HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE 

784
00:31:17,008 --> 00:31:17,809
INFORMATION POSSIBLE? HE DID NOT

785
00:31:17,809 --> 00:31:22,046
GET AN ANSWER. BUT WE HAVE THE 

786
00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:28,253
ANSWER. IT'S THE RIGHT TO 

787
00:31:28,253 --> 00:31:38,796
APPEAL TO THE HEARING EXAMINER. 

788
00:31:39,697 --> 00:31:43,735
IT'S AN INDEPENDENT 

789
00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:49,173
OPPORTUNITY. WITHOUTTHEY WOULD 

790
00:31:49,173 --> 00:31:52,543
BE FORCED TO RECOVER 

791
00:31:52,543 --> 00:31:53,111
ENVIRONMENTAL ERRORS. GOOD 

792
00:31:53,111 --> 00:31:57,415
DECISIONS RELY ON GOOD 

793
00:31:57,415 --> 00:32:02,553
INFORMATION. PLEASE REPORT AND 

794
00:32:02,553 --> 00:32:02,820
CHECK NO. 

795
00:32:02,820 --> 00:32:08,459
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE JUDY. 

796
00:32:08,459 --> 00:32:12,764
>> GOOD MORNING. I'M JUDY. I'VE

797
00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:14,532
BEEN A RESIDENT OF SEATTLE FOR 

798
00:32:14,532 --> 00:32:17,035
WELL CLOSE TO SOME PEOPLE'S 

799
00:32:17,035 --> 00:32:20,004
LIFETIME. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO 

800
00:32:20,004 --> 00:32:21,372
NIX JUST AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER

801
00:32:21,372 --> 00:32:23,374
SAID, AND REVIEW, IT'S A CHECK.

802
00:32:23,374 --> 00:32:25,476
IT MAKES SURE OUR PUBLIC 

803
00:32:25,476 --> 00:32:33,451
AGENCIES ACTUALLY WORK FOR THE 

804
00:32:33,451 --> 00:32:35,520
PEOPLE IN SOME CLAIM. IF OPCD 

805
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,821
MISSES CRITICAL POINTS OR FACTS,

806
00:32:36,821 --> 00:32:38,056
THERE'S A REMEDY. I JUST HAVE 

807
00:32:38,056 --> 00:32:43,594
TO SAY, THIS REMINDS ME OF THE 

808
00:32:43,594 --> 00:32:44,495
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S 

809
00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:46,931
JUSTIFICATION TO DENY COURT 

810
00:32:46,931 --> 00:32:47,498
REVIEW FOR IMMIGRANTS. THE 

811
00:32:47,498 --> 00:32:48,800
REASONS ARE THAT IT COSTS MONEY 

812
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,168
AND WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO.

813
00:32:50,168 --> 00:32:51,369
WELL THE BETTER THING TO DO IS 

814
00:32:51,369 --> 00:32:53,171
TO DO IT RIGHT IN THE FIRST 

815
00:32:53,171 --> 00:32:56,607
PLACE, SO YOU DON'T NEED AN 

816
00:32:56,607 --> 00:32:58,343
APPEAL. SO PLEASE NIX IT NOW. IT

817
00:32:58,343 --> 00:32:59,510
SHOULDN'T GO ANY FURTHER. THANK

818
00:32:59,510 --> 00:32:59,711
YOU. 

819
00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:02,780
>> THANK YOU. 

820
00:33:02,780 --> 00:33:13,224
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE SHANE. 

821
00:33:13,558 --> 00:33:16,260
>> HI. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. 

822
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:19,030
I'M HERE TO OPPOSE 121215 AND 

823
00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:20,765
ALSO TALK ABOUT 121214 WITH THE 

824
00:33:20,765 --> 00:33:21,966
DATA CENTERS. I'M JUST A 

825
00:33:21,966 --> 00:33:23,935
SECURITY GUARD AND A MUSICIAN. 

826
00:33:23,935 --> 00:33:26,771
I'M 25 YEARS OLD, SO I KNOW 

827
00:33:26,771 --> 00:33:28,339
I'M ONE OF, IF NOT THE YOUNGEST

828
00:33:28,339 --> 00:33:29,607
PERSONS IN HERE. WHEN I WAS 

829
00:33:29,607 --> 00:33:33,711
YOUNGER, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS

830
00:33:33,711 --> 00:33:35,513
GOING ON, BUT IN 2010, THE 

831
00:33:35,513 --> 00:33:36,581
CITIZENS UNITED CASE HAPPENED, 

832
00:33:36,581 --> 00:33:39,417
AND THAT ALLOWED CORPORATE MONEY

833
00:33:39,417 --> 00:33:41,019
TO BE, YOU KNOW, AS POWERFUL, OR

834
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,086
MOSTLY MORE POWERFUL THAN THE 

835
00:33:42,086 --> 00:33:43,087
PEOPLE'S VOICES, AND I'M 

836
00:33:43,087 --> 00:33:44,522
SEEING THAT AGAIN TODAY WITH 

837
00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:47,458
THESE NEW DATA CENTERS COMING 

838
00:33:47,458 --> 00:33:51,129
ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND I 

839
00:33:51,129 --> 00:33:54,632
REALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE 

840
00:33:54,632 --> 00:33:56,567
SHOULD BE ALLOWING CORPORATIONS 

841
00:33:56,567 --> 00:33:58,669
TO OVERRIDE THE PEOPLE'S 

842
00:33:58,669 --> 00:34:01,472
DECISIONS. EVERYONE I KNOW IS 

843
00:34:01,472 --> 00:34:02,540
AGAINST THIS. AND THANK YOU, 

844
00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:03,841
GUYS. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO 

845
00:34:03,841 --> 00:34:06,411
HAS BEEN IN HERE, YOU'VE BEEN 

846
00:34:06,411 --> 00:34:07,445
SPEAKING SO, SO WONDERFULLY. AND

847
00:34:07,445 --> 00:34:08,446
THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. 

848
00:34:08,446 --> 00:34:13,418
>> THANK YOU. 

849
00:34:13,418 --> 00:34:23,895
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE PATRICK. 

850
00:34:24,562 --> 00:34:28,132
>> HI, I'M PAT. I'M A COMPUTER

851
00:34:28,132 --> 00:34:31,803
PROGRAMMER AND HAVE BEEN FOR TWO

852
00:34:31,803 --> 00:34:33,738
DECADES. I'M SUPPORTING THE 

853
00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:36,174
DATA CENTER MORATORIUM, THESE 

854
00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:38,176
LARGE DATA CENTERS AREN'T LIKE 

855
00:34:38,176 --> 00:34:40,845
THE DATA CENTERS WE ALREADY 

856
00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:41,712
HAVE. THEY DON'T CREATE JOBS, 

857
00:34:41,712 --> 00:34:43,781
AND FOR TECH COMPANIES, THEIR 

858
00:34:43,781 --> 00:34:47,151
AIM IS FOR A.I. REPLACING AS 

859
00:34:47,151 --> 00:34:49,387
MANY JOBS AS POSSIBLE. WE 

860
00:34:49,387 --> 00:34:52,824
ALREADY KNOW FROM OTHERS' 

861
00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:54,292
MISFORTUNE, THE RISING ENERGY 

862
00:34:54,292 --> 00:34:57,328
COSTS, RUINING OF THE 

863
00:34:57,328 --> 00:34:59,964
ENVIRONMENT, AND THE LARGE 

864
00:34:59,964 --> 00:35:05,736
PRICES. TECH COMPANIES LIKE TO 

865
00:35:05,736 --> 00:35:11,843
BRAG . WERE NO THANKS, WE DO NOT

866
00:35:11,843 --> 00:35:15,313
NEED LARGE DATA CENTERS, ALSO 

867
00:35:15,313 --> 00:35:16,914
CONCERNING IS 121215. AS A 

868
00:35:16,914 --> 00:35:18,082
NATION WE'VE ALREADY SPENT 

869
00:35:18,082 --> 00:35:22,753
DECADES TRYING TO UNDO THE HARM 

870
00:35:22,753 --> 00:35:24,655
FROM WELL INTENTIONED ACTIONS 

871
00:35:24,655 --> 00:35:25,656
LIKE STRAIGHTENING RIVERS. DATA 

872
00:35:25,656 --> 00:35:27,058
CENTERS HAVE PROVEN THEY CANNOT 

873
00:35:27,058 --> 00:35:28,759
BE TRUSTED, SO WE NEED AS MANY 

874
00:35:28,759 --> 00:35:30,194
CHECKS AS POSSIBLE. 

875
00:35:30,194 --> 00:35:38,336
>> THANK YOU, PATRICK. NEXT UP, 

876
00:35:38,336 --> 00:35:43,808
WE HAVE IRENE. 

877
00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:45,610
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 

878
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:51,282
IRENE. I LIVE IN DISTRICT SIX 

879
00:35:51,282 --> 00:35:55,553
AND I URGE YOU, DO NOT ADVANCE 

880
00:35:55,553 --> 00:35:56,287
CB 121215. THIS ILL CONCEIVED 

881
00:35:56,287 --> 00:35:58,623
LEGISLATION, IT READS LIKE AN 

882
00:35:58,623 --> 00:36:01,159
ATTACK ON GOOD CITIZENS WHO IN 

883
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,728
GOOD FAITH HAVE RELIED ON SEPA 

884
00:36:03,728 --> 00:36:04,962
TO INTERVENE WHEN THE CITY 

885
00:36:04,962 --> 00:36:06,864
DECISIONS ARE IN CLEAR ERROR, 

886
00:36:06,864 --> 00:36:07,932
AND THAT DOES HAPPEN. FOR THE 

887
00:36:07,932 --> 00:36:09,200
PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THERE'S 

888
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,768
BEEN A CREEPING EROSION OF 

889
00:36:10,768 --> 00:36:12,537
CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT WHEN 

890
00:36:12,537 --> 00:36:16,007
DECISIONS ARE MADE BOTH LARGE 

891
00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:17,341
AND SMALL. SEPA HAS BEEN 

892
00:36:17,341 --> 00:36:20,344
JETTISONED AS UNNECESSARY IN 

893
00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:21,579
LIGHT OF QUOTE OTHER REGULATIONS

894
00:36:21,579 --> 00:36:23,281
THAT ALLEGEDLY PREVENT HARM, BUT

895
00:36:23,281 --> 00:36:26,050
THE HARM REMAINS. JUST LOOK AT 

896
00:36:26,050 --> 00:36:29,587
THE RAPID LOSS OF MATURE TREES 

897
00:36:29,587 --> 00:36:33,457
DESPITE THE TREE PROTECTION 

898
00:36:33,457 --> 00:36:36,060
ORDINANCE. DESIGN REVIEW HAS 

899
00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:37,562
BEEN EVISCERATED. THE CLERK'S 

900
00:36:37,562 --> 00:36:38,529
OFFICE LISTS 67 BOARDS AND 

901
00:36:38,529 --> 00:36:42,433
COMMISSIONS, AND EVERY ONE OF 

902
00:36:42,433 --> 00:36:45,970
THEM HAS MULTIPLE VACANCIES. THE

903
00:36:45,970 --> 00:36:49,073
CURRENT DAM THE TORPEDOES 

904
00:36:49,073 --> 00:36:50,975
APPROACH REQUIRES -- 

905
00:36:50,975 --> 00:36:52,043
>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE 

906
00:36:52,043 --> 00:37:01,619
LOGAN SCHMIDT. 

907
00:37:01,619 --> 00:37:06,591
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR LIN, THIS

908
00:37:06,591 --> 00:37:15,633
IS LOGAN SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF 

909
00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:19,003
21195. I BELIEVE IT WILL 

910
00:37:19,003 --> 00:37:20,504
MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE SEATTLE'S 

911
00:37:20,504 --> 00:37:26,877
ABILITY TO APPROVE ON TIME. 

912
00:37:26,877 --> 00:37:28,813
DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FROM 

913
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:31,148
HEARING EXAMINER APPEALS IS THE 

914
00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:32,917
ELIMINATION OF A PROCEDURAL 

915
00:37:32,917 --> 00:37:35,486
BOTTLENECK THAT HAS PUT SEATTLE 

916
00:37:35,486 --> 00:37:38,422
AT RISK OF MISSING STATE 

917
00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:39,624
DEADLINES. SECOND, THE BILL 

918
00:37:39,624 --> 00:37:40,825
PRESERVES THE COUNCILMEMBER 

919
00:37:40,825 --> 00:37:41,726
DISCRETION BY ALLOWING ANY 

920
00:37:41,726 --> 00:37:43,928
MEMBER TO REQUEST DIRECTOR 

921
00:37:43,928 --> 00:37:45,997
SUPPORT WHEN THEY BELIEVE IT 

922
00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:48,266
WOULD BE USEFUL. WITHOUT MAKING 

923
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:52,036
A DEFAULT REQUIREMENT FOR EVERY 

924
00:37:52,036 --> 00:37:53,004
COUNCIL GENERATED ACTION. 

925
00:37:53,004 --> 00:37:53,838
FASTER, MORE PROTECTABLE -- 

926
00:37:53,838 --> 00:37:54,405
THESE PROCESSES BENEFIT 

927
00:37:54,405 --> 00:37:55,239
EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY WHEN STATE 

928
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,674
LAW IS ALREADY DRIVING THE 

929
00:37:56,674 --> 00:37:57,141
TIMELINE. THANK YOU. 

930
00:37:57,141 --> 00:38:01,812
>> THANK YOU. 

931
00:38:01,812 --> 00:38:12,289
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE CARTER. 

932
00:38:14,759 --> 00:38:18,462
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR LIN, AND 

933
00:38:18,462 --> 00:38:21,265
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. CARTER

934
00:38:21,265 --> 00:38:23,734
COMMENTING IN SUPPORT OF COUNSEL

935
00:38:23,734 --> 00:38:29,607
BILL 121215. WE APPRECIATE THE 

936
00:38:29,607 --> 00:38:31,575
COUNCIL'S EFFORTS TO IMPROVE 

937
00:38:31,575 --> 00:38:32,443
THE PREDICTABILITY AND 

938
00:38:32,443 --> 00:38:33,444
EFFICIENCY, THIS ESTABLISHES AN 

939
00:38:33,444 --> 00:38:36,914
APPROACH ALREADY IN PLACE ACROSS

940
00:38:36,914 --> 00:38:39,216
THE REGION, KING COUNTY, TACOMA,

941
00:38:39,216 --> 00:38:40,518
AND EVERETT ALREADY REPRESENT 

942
00:38:40,518 --> 00:38:41,786
SEPA DECISIONS FROM APPEAL. AND 

943
00:38:41,786 --> 00:38:42,653
THIS LEGISLATION WOULD BRING 

944
00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:44,789
SEATTLE INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THAT

945
00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:47,091
PRACTICE. THIS LEGISLATION ALSO 

946
00:38:47,091 --> 00:38:49,860
ADDRESSES A PROCEDURAL GAP THAT 

947
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:51,295
CAN CREATE AVOIDABLE DELAYS. 

948
00:38:51,295 --> 00:38:52,930
REDUCING THESE BARRIERS IS 

949
00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:54,999
CRITICAL TO HOUSING PRODUCTION. 

950
00:38:54,999 --> 00:38:57,668
OUR MEMBERS SEE FIRST HAND HOW 

951
00:38:57,668 --> 00:38:59,303
THE PROLONGED REVIEW PROCESSES 

952
00:38:59,303 --> 00:39:01,038
ADD COST, AND INTRODUCE 

953
00:39:01,038 --> 00:39:02,873
UNCERTAINTY, THAT CAN PREVENT 

954
00:39:02,873 --> 00:39:04,308
PROJECTS FROM MOVING FORWARD. BY

955
00:39:04,308 --> 00:39:08,145
CLARIFYING AND STREAMLINING THE 

956
00:39:08,145 --> 00:39:10,915
PROCESS, IT STILL SUPPORTS A 

957
00:39:10,915 --> 00:39:12,416
MORE EFFICIENT PATHWAY IN 

958
00:39:12,416 --> 00:39:13,918
ALLIANCE WITH BROADER GOALS, 

959
00:39:13,918 --> 00:39:15,119
BENEFITING BOTH THOSE BUILDING 

960
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:16,187
HOUSING AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF 

961
00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:16,454
OUR CITY. 

962
00:39:16,454 --> 00:39:20,891
>> THANK YOU. 

963
00:39:20,891 --> 00:39:31,369
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE BONNEY. 

964
00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:46,617
BONNEY, PLEASE PRESS STAR 6. 

965
00:39:46,617 --> 00:39:48,786
BONNEY, WE WILL COME BACK TO 

966
00:39:48,786 --> 00:39:59,263
YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE LAILA. 

967
00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:04,101
>> CHAIR LIN AND COMMITTEE 

968
00:40:04,101 --> 00:40:07,338
MEMBERS, MY NAME IS LAILA, I'M 

969
00:40:07,338 --> 00:40:13,778
A LAND USE ATTORNEY COMMENTING 

970
00:40:13,778 --> 00:40:16,947
IN SUPPORT OF CB 121215. SEATTLE

971
00:40:16,947 --> 00:40:19,283
IS RISKING COMPLIANCE OF 

972
00:40:19,283 --> 00:40:20,785
NON-DEADLINES IN PART BECAUSE OF

973
00:40:20,785 --> 00:40:23,220
SEPA APPEALS ADD MONTHS TO THE 

974
00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:26,223
PROCESS. STATE LAW DOES NOT 

975
00:40:26,223 --> 00:40:26,891
REQUIRE THESE APPEALS, BUT 

976
00:40:26,891 --> 00:40:29,393
INSTEAD MAKES THEM OPTIONAL, AND

977
00:40:29,393 --> 00:40:32,129
KING COUNTY AND BELLEVUE DO NOT 

978
00:40:32,129 --> 00:40:36,667
ALLOW THEM. SO ALIGN SEATTLE 

979
00:40:36,667 --> 00:40:38,602
WITH THE REGIONAL NORM. TODAY 

980
00:40:38,602 --> 00:40:40,204
THESE ARE OPTIONAL, BUT 

981
00:40:40,204 --> 00:40:43,207
APPEALING THEY'RE ALLOWED STILL

982
00:40:43,207 --> 00:40:47,945
TAKES TIME AND UPDATES THE 

983
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:52,650
PROCESS BY ELIMINATING THE 

984
00:40:52,650 --> 00:40:53,317
DIRECTOR'S REPORT. THIS IS ONLY

985
00:40:53,317 --> 00:40:54,485
PROCEDURE REFORM WITH [ 

986
00:40:54,485 --> 00:40:56,587
INAUDIBLE ] IN TACT. THIS WILL 

987
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:59,590
HELP KEEP REGULATORY EFFORTS AND

988
00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:02,460
HOUSING ON TRACK, REFLECTIVE OF 

989
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:03,160
THE MAYOR'S AGENDA. THANK YOU. 

990
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,832
>> THANK YOU. 

991
00:41:07,832 --> 00:41:16,807
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE JEFF. 

992
00:41:16,807 --> 00:41:18,209
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME, OKAY? 

993
00:41:18,209 --> 00:41:18,476
>> YES. 

994
00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:21,779
>> HI, THIS IS JEFF BRIGS. I 

995
00:41:21,779 --> 00:41:27,651
LIVE IN SEATTLE. I'M GOING TO 

996
00:41:27,651 --> 00:41:30,521
ADD TO THE SKEPTICISM THAT 

997
00:41:30,521 --> 00:41:33,457
PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED ON 121215.

998
00:41:33,457 --> 00:41:34,859
I WILL EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT

999
00:41:34,859 --> 00:41:37,294
WITH HOW THAT'S BEEN EVALUATED 

1000
00:41:37,294 --> 00:41:39,029
FOR COUNCIL, WHICH HAS THE 

1001
00:41:39,029 --> 00:41:42,933
ALLEGED APPEALS HAVE BEEN FOUND 

1002
00:41:42,933 --> 00:41:45,636
IN ORDER TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT,

1003
00:41:45,636 --> 00:41:47,304
TO BASICALLY TO BE 

1004
00:41:47,304 --> 00:41:49,340
OBSTRUCTIONIST, AND I'M ASKING 

1005
00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:51,876
LIKE, WHO THIS IS ALLEGED BY, 

1006
00:41:51,876 --> 00:41:55,079
AND AGAINST TOWARD WHOM IT'S 

1007
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:55,813
ALLEGED. IT SEEMS MORE 

1008
00:41:55,813 --> 00:41:58,382
EDITORIALIZING THAN THE ACTUAL 

1009
00:41:58,382 --> 00:41:59,483
ANALYSIS. IT ALSO SAYS DIRECTLY 

1010
00:41:59,483 --> 00:42:01,518
THAT THIS WOULD ALIGN THE STATE,

1011
00:42:01,518 --> 00:42:04,121
OR THE CITY REGULATIONS WITH 

1012
00:42:04,121 --> 00:42:05,523
STATE REGULATIONS WHILE THE SAME

1013
00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:07,091
DOCUMENT ALSO STATES THAT THIS 

1014
00:42:07,091 --> 00:42:10,761
WOULD APPLY TO ALL TYPE 5, NOT 

1015
00:42:10,761 --> 00:42:11,962
JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO IT 

1016
00:42:11,962 --> 00:42:13,063
SEEMS TO ME, THIS ANALYSIS 

1017
00:42:13,063 --> 00:42:14,698
PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IS 

1018
00:42:14,698 --> 00:42:15,199
INACCURATE. THANK YOU. 

1019
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:19,837
>> THANK YOU. 

1020
00:42:19,837 --> 00:42:22,606
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE RUBY 

1021
00:42:22,606 --> 00:42:32,783
HOLLAND. 

1022
00:42:49,867 --> 00:42:55,105
>> YES. MY NAME IS RUBY HOLLAND.

1023
00:42:55,105 --> 00:42:56,674
I STRONGLY OPPOSE CB 121215, 

1024
00:42:56,674 --> 00:43:01,378
WHICH LIMITS THE RIGHT TO 

1025
00:43:01,378 --> 00:43:04,381
APPEAL. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE 

1026
00:43:04,381 --> 00:43:07,451
COORDINATED EFFORT BY 

1027
00:43:07,451 --> 00:43:09,286
COUNCILMEMBERS RINCK AND FOSTER 

1028
00:43:09,286 --> 00:43:10,788
WHO HAVE SEATTLE'S HOMEOWNERS 

1029
00:43:10,788 --> 00:43:12,222
FROM GETTING DISPLACED BY 

1030
00:43:12,222 --> 00:43:13,390
STABILIZING OUR PROPERTY TAXES 

1031
00:43:13,390 --> 00:43:16,961
MERELY SO THEY CAN FORCE THE 

1032
00:43:16,961 --> 00:43:18,228
ADULT HOMEOWNERS OUT OF [ 

1033
00:43:18,228 --> 00:43:21,899
INAUDIBLE ] THERE IS A SEED OF 

1034
00:43:21,899 --> 00:43:24,134
CORRUPTION AND BE A LACK OF 

1035
00:43:24,134 --> 00:43:25,936
TRANSPARENCY TAKING PLACE WITHIN

1036
00:43:25,936 --> 00:43:30,674
THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WASN'T 

1037
00:43:30,674 --> 00:43:33,644
PRESENT PRIOR TO JANUARY. WHAT 

1038
00:43:33,644 --> 00:43:35,479
CHANGED? WHO IS ERODING THE 

1039
00:43:35,479 --> 00:43:38,048
PUBLIC TRUST. I PROMISE YOU THAT

1040
00:43:38,048 --> 00:43:40,417
A CITY MEETING RUN IN CLOSED 

1041
00:43:40,417 --> 00:43:41,652
DOORS, AND POLITICAL 

1042
00:43:41,652 --> 00:43:42,519
ASSASSINATIONS WILL NOT SURVIVE.

1043
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:42,820
THANK YOU. 

1044
00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:47,558
>> THANK YOU. 

1045
00:43:47,558 --> 00:43:49,793
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE JESSICA 

1046
00:43:49,793 --> 00:44:00,337
DIXON. JESSICA, IT DOES NOT LOOK

1047
00:44:07,878 --> 00:44:12,916
LIKE YOU ARE CALLED IN. WE WILL 

1048
00:44:12,916 --> 00:44:14,885
COME BACK TO YOU. NEXT UP, WE 

1049
00:44:14,885 --> 00:44:19,189
HAVE NIVY. 

1050
00:44:19,189 --> 00:44:25,295
>> HI, EVERYONE, CAN YOU HEAR 

1051
00:44:25,295 --> 00:44:25,462
ME? 

1052
00:44:25,462 --> 00:44:25,729
>> YES. 

1053
00:44:25,729 --> 00:44:29,033
>> OH, AMAZING. MY NAME IS NIVY,

1054
00:44:29,033 --> 00:44:32,036
I'M THE FOUNDER OF SEATTLE SOAP

1055
00:44:32,036 --> 00:44:33,570
BOX. AND I WANTED TO CALL IN IN 

1056
00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:35,739
SUPPORT OF A DATA CENTER 

1057
00:44:35,739 --> 00:44:37,207
MORATORIUM, ALSO IN SUPPORT OF 

1058
00:44:37,207 --> 00:44:39,410
FREMONT REZONING, WHICH I 

1059
00:44:39,410 --> 00:44:41,945
DIDN'T KNOW WAS ON THE AGENDA, 

1060
00:44:41,945 --> 00:44:43,914
OOPS, BUT I LIVE IN FREMONT ON 

1061
00:44:43,914 --> 00:44:45,215
STOWTON WAY. ALL OF MY COMMENTS 

1062
00:44:45,215 --> 00:44:48,719
ARE GOING TO BE HOW SEATTLE IS 

1063
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,323
GOING TO BE A MAJOR CLIMATE HUB 

1064
00:44:53,323 --> 00:44:56,427
AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO STEP UP

1065
00:44:56,427 --> 00:44:58,562
TO WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE BEST 

1066
00:44:58,562 --> 00:45:01,065
CITY IN THE U.S. IF WE BUILD 

1067
00:45:01,065 --> 00:45:02,499
DATA CENTERS AND TAKE POWER AWAY

1068
00:45:02,499 --> 00:45:04,468
FROM THE PEOPLE, WE ARE ALLOWING

1069
00:45:04,468 --> 00:45:05,869
THESE MASSIVE COMPANIES TO BULLY

1070
00:45:05,869 --> 00:45:07,938
US AND STEAL OUR RESOURCES AND 

1071
00:45:07,938 --> 00:45:10,574
CHASE A BUBBLE THAT WE DON'T 

1072
00:45:10,574 --> 00:45:12,142
EVEN KNOW WILL EXIST. SO I 

1073
00:45:12,142 --> 00:45:13,410
STRONGLY SUPPORT A DATA CENTER 

1074
00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:14,144
MORATORIUM, AND I OVERALL 

1075
00:45:14,144 --> 00:45:16,513
SUPPORT THE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO

1076
00:45:16,513 --> 00:45:19,183
WEIGH IN ON WHAT MATTERS TO US 

1077
00:45:19,183 --> 00:45:22,553
AS A CITY, INCLUDING HOUSING, 

1078
00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:24,988
AND TRANSIT, AND GREEN SPACES. 

1079
00:45:24,988 --> 00:45:25,355
>> THANK YOU. 

1080
00:45:25,355 --> 00:45:35,833
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE DAVID. 

1081
00:45:36,133 --> 00:45:40,037
>> HI, THIS IS DAVID. 

1082
00:45:40,037 --> 00:45:41,405
DEREGULATION KILLS. IN 2014, THE

1083
00:45:41,405 --> 00:45:43,474
OSO LANDSLIDE KILLED OVER 40 

1084
00:45:43,474 --> 00:45:46,043
RESIDENTS AND PERMANENTLY BURIED

1085
00:45:46,043 --> 00:45:47,778
NEW HOMES. THE STATE OF 

1086
00:45:47,778 --> 00:45:48,645
WASHINGTON HAS PAID EXTENSIVELY 

1087
00:45:48,645 --> 00:45:50,714
FOR THIS LOSS OF PROPERTY, AND 

1088
00:45:50,714 --> 00:45:55,886
LOSS OF LIFE. I'M HERE TO ASK 

1089
00:45:55,886 --> 00:46:00,891
YOU, AND URGE YOU TO CANCEL CB 

1090
00:46:00,891 --> 00:46:02,259
121215. I'M ONE OF MANY 

1091
00:46:02,259 --> 00:46:03,026
THOUSANDS OF HOMEOWNERS WHO 

1092
00:46:03,026 --> 00:46:04,728
SIGNED A WAIVER AT THE CLOSING 

1093
00:46:04,728 --> 00:46:05,529
AFTER THE PURCHASING OF MY 

1094
00:46:05,529 --> 00:46:08,799
TOWNHOUSE, THAT BECAUSE IT WAS 

1095
00:46:08,799 --> 00:46:12,970
BUILT ON THE SALE OF DESIGNATED 

1096
00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:14,705
LANDSLIDE AREA. AGAIN, 

1097
00:46:14,705 --> 00:46:15,439
DEREGULATION KILLS. APPEALS DO 

1098
00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:17,441
NOT DELAY CITY DECISIONS HOW TO 

1099
00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:19,943
GROW, BUT THEY INFORM US, THEY 

1100
00:46:19,943 --> 00:46:22,813
INFORM YOU OF CITY DECISIONS. 

1101
00:46:22,813 --> 00:46:24,381
APPEALS ARE TO PROTECT THE 

1102
00:46:24,381 --> 00:46:26,617
PUBLIC'S HEALTH, LIFE, AND 

1103
00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:30,554
SAFETY. YOUR ROLE IS TO PROTECT 

1104
00:46:30,554 --> 00:46:31,455
THE PUBLIC. NOT TO CATER TO 

1105
00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:33,023
LOBBYISTS STRIPPING SEATTLE FROM

1106
00:46:33,023 --> 00:46:34,191
ITS RIGHTS TO PROTECT 

1107
00:46:34,191 --> 00:46:34,691
THEMSELVES. THANK YOU. 

1108
00:46:34,691 --> 00:46:41,865
>> THANK YOU. 

1109
00:46:41,865 --> 00:46:44,168
>> JESSICA, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE

1110
00:46:44,168 --> 00:46:54,678
BACK HERE. WE WILL GO TO YOU. 

1111
00:46:54,912 --> 00:46:55,512
JESSICA DIXON, PLEASE PRESS STAR

1112
00:46:55,512 --> 00:47:05,589
6. 

1113
00:47:13,063 --> 00:47:14,131
>> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? 

1114
00:47:14,131 --> 00:47:16,867
>> YES. 

1115
00:47:16,867 --> 00:47:18,835
>> HI, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. MY

1116
00:47:18,835 --> 00:47:24,374
NAME IS JESSICA DIXON, AND I'M 

1117
00:47:24,374 --> 00:47:27,344
ASKING COUNCILMEMBERS TO OPPOSE 

1118
00:47:27,344 --> 00:47:29,513
COUNCIL BILL 121215, 

1119
00:47:29,513 --> 00:47:31,114
SPECIFICALLY THE EXCEPTION OF 

1120
00:47:31,114 --> 00:47:31,882
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTS 

1121
00:47:31,882 --> 00:47:36,053
AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FROM

1122
00:47:36,053 --> 00:47:38,822
APPEALS TO THE SEATTLE HEARING 

1123
00:47:38,822 --> 00:47:39,523
EXAMINER. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE A

1124
00:47:39,523 --> 00:47:42,392
CRITICAL CHECK ON REGULATORS, 

1125
00:47:42,392 --> 00:47:43,527
ONE THAT EXISTS TO ENSURE 

1126
00:47:43,527 --> 00:47:44,127
ACCOUNTABILITY UNDER 

1127
00:47:44,127 --> 00:47:45,162
WASHINGTON'S ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS

1128
00:47:45,162 --> 00:47:46,129
BEFORE ANY DAMAGE IS DOWN. 

1129
00:47:46,129 --> 00:47:49,433
REMOVING THE RIGHT TO APPEAL IS 

1130
00:47:49,433 --> 00:47:52,436
NOT A PROCEDURAL TECHNICALITY. 

1131
00:47:52,436 --> 00:47:54,504
IT IS THE REMOVAL OF A 

1132
00:47:54,504 --> 00:48:01,111
MEANINGFUL AVENUE FOR RESIDENTS 

1133
00:48:01,111 --> 00:48:05,916
TO HOLD GOVERNMENT. OUR CITY 

1134
00:48:05,916 --> 00:48:07,684
CABINETS SHOULD GROW OVERTIME. 

1135
00:48:07,684 --> 00:48:11,288
DEVELOPERS DO NOT WEAR THE 

1136
00:48:11,288 --> 00:48:13,557
BURDEN OF STEWARDING THE CITY 

1137
00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:17,227
FROM FUTURE GENERATIONS, WE THE 

1138
00:48:17,227 --> 00:48:18,729
RESIDENTS DO. PLEASE REMOVE THIS

1139
00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:19,029
EXEMPTION. 

1140
00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:19,396
>> THANK YOU. 

1141
00:48:19,396 --> 00:48:29,840
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE STEVE. 

1142
00:48:33,076 --> 00:48:36,313
>> GOOD MORNING, THIS IS STEVE 

1143
00:48:36,313 --> 00:48:37,581
SPEAKING FOR TREE PACK AND 

1144
00:48:37,581 --> 00:48:41,118
FRIENDS OF SEATTLE'S FOREST. I 

1145
00:48:41,118 --> 00:48:43,287
COULD NOT FIND ANY VERSION OF 

1146
00:48:43,287 --> 00:48:44,187
COUNSEL BILL 121215 ONLINE. 

1147
00:48:44,187 --> 00:48:45,555
YOU'RE DISCUSSING A BILL THAT 

1148
00:48:45,555 --> 00:48:48,392
THE PUBLIC IS UNABLE TO SEE THE 

1149
00:48:48,392 --> 00:48:52,429
SUMMARY AND FISCAL NOTE WITH NO 

1150
00:48:52,429 --> 00:48:54,798
WORKING LINK TO THIS BILL. 

1151
00:48:54,798 --> 00:48:56,066
REMOVING DIRECTORS' REPORTS 

1152
00:48:56,066 --> 00:48:58,635
WOULD DEPRIVE THE COUNCIL AND 

1153
00:48:58,635 --> 00:49:01,071
PUBLIC OF INFORMATION, EXEMPTING

1154
00:49:01,071 --> 00:49:01,571
ENVIRONMENTAL THRESHOLD 

1155
00:49:01,571 --> 00:49:04,408
DETERMINATIONS IN THE EIS'S, 

1156
00:49:04,408 --> 00:49:05,342
ASSOCIATED WITH COMP PLAN 

1157
00:49:05,342 --> 00:49:07,544
AMENDMENTS AND REGULATIONS 

1158
00:49:07,544 --> 00:49:08,645
SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF 

1159
00:49:08,645 --> 00:49:10,280
TRUMP'S MAGA HANDBOOK THAT THE 

1160
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,250
PUBLIC CAN NO LONGER APPEAL 

1161
00:49:13,250 --> 00:49:15,952
DECISIONS MADE BY THE COUNCIL. 

1162
00:49:15,952 --> 00:49:18,989
WE OPPOSE THIS LEGISLATION, AND 

1163
00:49:18,989 --> 00:49:21,325
QUESTION WHY YOU'RE MOVING 

1164
00:49:21,325 --> 00:49:22,192
FORWARD ON REMOVING PUBLIC 

1165
00:49:22,192 --> 00:49:23,527
PROTECTION AND SAFEGUARDS AND 

1166
00:49:23,527 --> 00:49:24,861
THE RIGHT TO APPEAL. THANK YOU. 

1167
00:49:24,861 --> 00:49:29,599
>> THANK YOU. 

1168
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:40,043
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE DAVID. 

1169
00:49:45,182 --> 00:49:46,817
>> THANK YOU, DAVID. IT'S 

1170
00:49:46,817 --> 00:49:49,119
UNSUSTAINABLE TO PUT UP WITH THE

1171
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:50,520
HORN HONKING TRAIN THAT PASSES 

1172
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,455
THROUGH THE MARINERS BASEBALL 

1173
00:49:51,455 --> 00:49:54,958
AREA WHEN THEY DON'T EVEN NEED 

1174
00:49:54,958 --> 00:49:57,627
TO HONK THE HORN. IT'S 

1175
00:49:57,627 --> 00:49:59,730
SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THAT IF 

1176
00:49:59,730 --> 00:50:01,631
YOU'RE SUBJECTED TO DECIBEL 

1177
00:50:01,631 --> 00:50:05,068
LEVELS OF 110 TO 150, WHICH THE 

1178
00:50:05,068 --> 00:50:07,304
TRAIN SPEWS, IT TAKES AWAY YOUR 

1179
00:50:07,304 --> 00:50:09,206
FOCUS, AND YOU SEE HOW MANY 

1180
00:50:09,206 --> 00:50:11,608
TIMES YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT IT 

1181
00:50:11,608 --> 00:50:13,477
GETS WORSE WITH THE MARINERS 

1182
00:50:13,477 --> 00:50:15,545
CONSTANTLY FLAKING AND PEOPLE 

1183
00:50:15,545 --> 00:50:16,480
GETTING DRUNK INSIDE THE 

1184
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,749
STADIUM. THAT TRAIN TRACK RUNS 

1185
00:50:18,749 --> 00:50:21,818
RIGHT NEXT TO THE STADIUM. YOU 

1186
00:50:21,818 --> 00:50:23,453
CAN SMELL THE TOXICITY AND THE 

1187
00:50:23,453 --> 00:50:26,556
SOOT PERMEATING AN AREA, AND 

1188
00:50:26,556 --> 00:50:28,825
WHEN IT HONKS ITS HORN, WHEN 

1189
00:50:28,825 --> 00:50:30,293
YOU'RE SITTING IN THAT METAL 

1190
00:50:30,293 --> 00:50:31,361
FACILITY, IT ECHOS, ESPECIALLY 

1191
00:50:31,361 --> 00:50:33,930
NEXT TO A BODY OF WATER, AND IT 

1192
00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:35,265
HAS DESTROYED THE MENTAL HEALTH 

1193
00:50:35,265 --> 00:50:37,601
OF THE PLAYERS, SOMETIMES IT HAS

1194
00:50:37,601 --> 00:50:39,770
A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE 

1195
00:50:39,770 --> 00:50:42,606
VISITING TEAM, BUT ANY ONE TIMES

1196
00:50:42,606 --> 00:50:44,508
FOR THE MARINERS, WE NEED A LAW 

1197
00:50:44,508 --> 00:50:50,514
TO PUT AN END TO THEIR ABUSE. 

1198
00:50:50,514 --> 00:50:50,847
>> THANK YOU. 

1199
00:50:50,847 --> 00:51:01,291
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE JUNE. 

1200
00:51:02,626 --> 00:51:05,228
>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ASK

1201
00:51:05,228 --> 00:51:07,431
A QUICK PROCEDURAL QUESTION 

1202
00:51:07,431 --> 00:51:10,033
BEFORE I SPEAK. AND THAT IS I 

1203
00:51:10,033 --> 00:51:12,169
SIGNED UP, I THINK FOR THE 

1204
00:51:12,169 --> 00:51:15,906
PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS THE 

1205
00:51:15,906 --> 00:51:17,140
PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE A 

1206
00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:19,276
SEPARATE SIGNUP, CAN YOU CLARIFY

1207
00:51:19,276 --> 00:51:19,476
THAT? 

1208
00:51:19,476 --> 00:51:21,278
>> YOU CAN SPEAK TO -- YOU CAN 

1209
00:51:21,278 --> 00:51:23,046
SIGN UP FOR BOTH, SO THERE 

1210
00:51:23,046 --> 00:51:24,648
SHOULD BE A SEPARATE SIGNUP FOR 

1211
00:51:24,648 --> 00:51:25,816
THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF YOU 

1212
00:51:25,816 --> 00:51:31,221
WANT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW ON

1213
00:51:31,221 --> 00:51:32,222
THE SEPA AND THE DATA CENTER, 

1214
00:51:32,222 --> 00:51:33,857
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THE 

1215
00:51:33,857 --> 00:51:34,858
PUBLIC HEARING NEXT. 

1216
00:51:34,858 --> 00:51:40,030
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I

1217
00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:43,233
URGE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE TWO 

1218
00:51:43,233 --> 00:51:44,267
ACTIONS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL 

1219
00:51:44,267 --> 00:51:46,703
JUSTICE. PASS THE MORATORIUM ON 

1220
00:51:46,703 --> 00:51:49,406
BUILDING DATA CENTERS IN 

1221
00:51:49,406 --> 00:51:50,407
SEATTLE. THEY ARE UNPROVEN 

1222
00:51:50,407 --> 00:51:51,475
BENEFITS. DO NOT JUSTIFY THE 

1223
00:51:51,475 --> 00:51:54,244
HUGE ECONOMIC COST, WHICH WILL 

1224
00:51:54,244 --> 00:51:57,681
FALL ON THE MOST VULNERABLE 

1225
00:51:57,681 --> 00:51:59,783
COMMUNITIES. REJECT COUNCIL BILL

1226
00:51:59,783 --> 00:52:01,151
121215. THIS BILL WOULD REMOVE 

1227
00:52:01,151 --> 00:52:02,986
THE ABILITY FOR RESIDENTS IN 

1228
00:52:02,986 --> 00:52:07,257
SEATTLE TO APPEAL UNDER THE 

1229
00:52:07,257 --> 00:52:10,060
COUNCIL TO THE SEATTLE HEARING 

1230
00:52:10,060 --> 00:52:11,461
EXAMINER. THIS WOULD REMOVE AN 

1231
00:52:11,461 --> 00:52:13,029
IMPORTANT AVENUE TO HOLD THE 

1232
00:52:13,029 --> 00:52:16,666
COUNCIL RESPONSIBLE TO REMOVE 

1233
00:52:16,666 --> 00:52:19,870
ENVIRONMENTAL SAFEGUARDS AT A 

1234
00:52:19,870 --> 00:52:21,605
TIME WHEN INCREASING 

1235
00:52:21,605 --> 00:52:23,373
ENVIRONMENTAL CRISIS IS 

1236
00:52:23,373 --> 00:52:28,111
SHORTSIGHTED AND 

1237
00:52:28,111 --> 00:52:31,348
ANTI-DEMOCRATIC. PEOPLE LIVE 

1238
00:52:31,348 --> 00:52:33,049
HOUSING, YES. HOUSING THAT IS 

1239
00:52:33,049 --> 00:52:34,317
LIVABLE. IT IS DEADLY FOR PEOPLE

1240
00:52:34,317 --> 00:52:35,318
IN HOUSING, AS WELL AS UNHOUSED 

1241
00:52:35,318 --> 00:52:45,662
PEOPLE. THANK YOU. 

1242
00:52:45,962 --> 00:52:47,430
>> CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES OUR 

1243
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:47,864
PUBLIC COMMENTERS. 

1244
00:52:47,864 --> 00:52:56,473
>> OKAY. AS THERE ARE NO 

1245
00:52:56,473 --> 00:52:57,173
ADDITIONAL REGISTERED SPEAKERS 

1246
00:52:57,173 --> 00:52:59,609
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR ITEMS OF

1247
00:52:59,609 --> 00:53:02,012
BUSINESS. I WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR

1248
00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:05,248
FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS. WILL THE

1249
00:53:05,248 --> 00:53:11,755
CLERK PLEASE READ AGENDA ITEM 1?

1250
00:53:11,888 --> 00:53:13,723
>> AGENDA ITEM ONE. COUNCIL BILL

1251
00:53:13,723 --> 00:53:16,226
121196, AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO

1252
00:53:16,226 --> 00:53:18,361
LAND USE ZONING, REZONING 

1253
00:53:18,361 --> 00:53:23,900
CERTAIN LAND IN THE UNIVERSITY 

1254
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:27,404
DISTRICT, THE FREMONT 

1255
00:53:27,404 --> 00:53:32,742
NEIGHBORHOOD, SUPPORTING 

1256
00:53:32,742 --> 00:53:35,979
HOUSING, REMOVE CODE TIMBER 

1257
00:53:35,979 --> 00:53:36,913
AREAS. FOR PUBLIC HEARING, 

1258
00:53:36,913 --> 00:53:39,382
BRIEFING, DISCUSSION, AND 

1259
00:53:39,382 --> 00:53:39,816
POSSIBLE VOTE. 

1260
00:53:39,816 --> 00:53:41,051
>> OKAY. AS PRESIDING OFFICER 

1261
00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:45,222
I'M NOW OPENING THE PUBLIC 

1262
00:53:45,222 --> 00:53:46,923
HEARING ON COUNSEL BILL 121196 

1263
00:53:46,923 --> 00:53:48,325
REGARDING THE HOUSING BILL'S 

1264
00:53:48,325 --> 00:53:48,959
OPPORTUNITY LEGISLATION. CLERK, 

1265
00:53:48,959 --> 00:53:51,161
HOW MANY SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP 

1266
00:53:51,161 --> 00:53:55,899
FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING? 

1267
00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:57,067
>> CHAIR, WE HAVE ROUGHLY 23 

1268
00:53:57,067 --> 00:54:01,805
COMMENTERS. 

1269
00:54:01,805 --> 00:54:03,273
>> OKAY. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE 

1270
00:54:03,273 --> 00:54:04,608
PROVIDED TWO MINUTES, AND CLERK,

1271
00:54:04,608 --> 00:54:06,376
I NOW HAND THIS OVER TO YOU TO 

1272
00:54:06,376 --> 00:54:13,650
PRESENT THE INSTRUCTIONS. 

1273
00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:21,558
>> SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN 

1274
00:54:21,558 --> 00:54:25,996
ORDER THE ORDER OF REGISTRATION.

1275
00:54:25,996 --> 00:54:27,597
THE SAME PUBLIC COMMENT RULES 

1276
00:54:27,597 --> 00:54:34,004
APPLY TO THIS. A 10 SECOND CHIME

1277
00:54:34,004 --> 00:54:35,605
WILL BE USED. PUBLIC COUNCIL 

1278
00:54:35,605 --> 00:54:38,575
BILL RELATING TO 121196 IS ONLY 

1279
00:54:38,575 --> 00:54:41,144
BEING ACCEPTED AT THIS PUBLIC 

1280
00:54:41,144 --> 00:54:42,912
HEARING. SPEAKERS ARE BEING 

1281
00:54:42,912 --> 00:54:44,047
ASKED TO BEGIN THEIR PUBLIC 

1282
00:54:44,047 --> 00:54:54,591
COMMENTS BY STATING THEIR NAME. 

1283
00:54:57,727 --> 00:55:00,664
FIRST UP WE HAVE IAN. THAT WILL 

1284
00:55:00,664 --> 00:55:03,199
BE -- HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY 

1285
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:13,743
MARTA, BOB, OLIVER, AND KYLER. 

1286
00:55:17,514 --> 00:55:18,782
>> [ INAUDIBLE ] ASKING THE 

1287
00:55:18,782 --> 00:55:20,383
COUNCIL TO, OR THE COMMITTEE TO 

1288
00:55:20,383 --> 00:55:22,085
MOVE IT FORWARD TODAY, BECAUSE 

1289
00:55:22,085 --> 00:55:29,025
WE ARE IN A HOUSING CRISIS, AND 

1290
00:55:29,025 --> 00:55:33,430
THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONAL PIECE OF 

1291
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:34,064
LEGISLATION. THIS IS ANSWERING 

1292
00:55:34,064 --> 00:55:34,764
THE CALL WHEN WE NEED TO BUILD 

1293
00:55:34,764 --> 00:55:35,799
HOUSING, WE NEED TO BUILD 

1294
00:55:35,799 --> 00:55:37,701
HOUSING AND SET THE TABLE WITH 

1295
00:55:37,701 --> 00:55:39,502
ZONING THAT ALLOWS FOR HOUSING 

1296
00:55:39,502 --> 00:55:40,203
EVERYWHERE, HOUSING AROUND 

1297
00:55:40,203 --> 00:55:41,805
TRANSIT, AND HOUSING THAT 

1298
00:55:41,805 --> 00:55:45,875
ANSWERS THE CALL THAT THE STATE 

1299
00:55:45,875 --> 00:55:49,379
HAS GIVEN US OF HOW DO WE 

1300
00:55:49,379 --> 00:55:50,513
INCENTIVIZE HOUSING USING 

1301
00:55:50,513 --> 00:55:52,849
TIMBER. SO THIS BILL IS AN 

1302
00:55:52,849 --> 00:55:55,218
AMALGAMATION OF MANY GREAT 

1303
00:55:55,218 --> 00:55:56,152
IDEAS. UPZONES FOR TARGETED 

1304
00:55:56,152 --> 00:55:57,954
AREAS, INCLUDING FOR OUR 

1305
00:55:57,954 --> 00:55:59,155
NONPROFIT PARTNERS IN THE 

1306
00:55:59,155 --> 00:56:00,223
CENTRAL DISTRICT, FOR AFFORDABLE

1307
00:56:00,223 --> 00:56:02,092
HOUSING IN THE RAINIER BEACH 

1308
00:56:02,092 --> 00:56:03,860
AREA, FOR HOUSING WITH BROOKS 

1309
00:56:03,860 --> 00:56:04,828
HEADQUARTERS. WHERE IF YOU LOOK 

1310
00:56:04,828 --> 00:56:06,296
AT THIS AT 36th AND STONE WAY, 

1311
00:56:06,296 --> 00:56:07,797
THERE IS HOUSING ONE BLOCK TO 

1312
00:56:07,797 --> 00:56:08,765
THE NORTH. THERE'S HOUSING ONE 

1313
00:56:08,765 --> 00:56:13,069
BLOCK TO THE EAST, BUT THERE IS 

1314
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:14,604
A COUPLE OF VACANT WAREHOUSES 

1315
00:56:14,604 --> 00:56:17,974
WHERE SURROUNDING THIS AREA IS 

1316
00:56:17,974 --> 00:56:23,313
HOUSING, AND IT'S IN AN AREA 

1317
00:56:23,313 --> 00:56:23,847
WHERE THERE'S VIBRANCY, 

1318
00:56:23,847 --> 00:56:24,814
THERE'S THE BEAUTIFUL WATER 

1319
00:56:24,814 --> 00:56:26,082
AREA. I WOULD ASK THAT THE 

1320
00:56:26,082 --> 00:56:28,151
COUNCIL HAS DONE GREAT WORK ON 

1321
00:56:28,151 --> 00:56:29,285
THIS, THERE'S BEEN GREAT 

1322
00:56:29,285 --> 00:56:30,854
OUTREACH, THERE'S BEEN, AS 

1323
00:56:30,854 --> 00:56:32,922
YOU'VE HEARD, THERE'S BEEN A 

1324
00:56:32,922 --> 00:56:35,058
SEPA OPPORTUNITY. THERE WAS NO 

1325
00:56:35,058 --> 00:56:37,127
SEPA COMMENTS. THERE WAS NO SEPA

1326
00:56:37,127 --> 00:56:39,262
APPEAL. THIS WAS NOT THE CASE OF

1327
00:56:39,262 --> 00:56:41,898
COMMENTS THAT HAS NOT ALLOWED 

1328
00:56:41,898 --> 00:56:43,133
FOR ENGAGEMENT. IT IS A PROCESS 

1329
00:56:43,133 --> 00:56:45,301
THAT HAS ALLOWED FOR HOUSING TO 

1330
00:56:45,301 --> 00:56:46,269
MOVE QUICKLY AND ESPECIALLY THE 

1331
00:56:46,269 --> 00:56:48,238
DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING IN THE 

1332
00:56:48,238 --> 00:56:49,572
NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO FOR 

1333
00:56:49,572 --> 00:56:51,274
THESE REASONS WE WOULD ASK THAT 

1334
00:56:51,274 --> 00:56:53,109
THE COUNCIL MOVE THIS FORWARD, 

1335
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:54,978
SO WE COULD ACTUALLY START TO 

1336
00:56:54,978 --> 00:56:56,713
SEE CRANES MOVING FORWARD, AND 

1337
00:56:56,713 --> 00:56:57,280
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE 

1338
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,915
MOVING INTO HOUSING THROUGHOUT 

1339
00:56:58,915 --> 00:56:59,716
THE CITY. THANK YOU. 

1340
00:56:59,716 --> 00:57:03,219
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE MARTA, 

1341
00:57:03,219 --> 00:57:05,688
FOLLOWED BY BOB, CARTER, AND 

1342
00:57:05,688 --> 00:57:05,955
PHINNEY. 

1343
00:57:05,955 --> 00:57:07,957
>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY 

1344
00:57:07,957 --> 00:57:09,592
NAME IS MARTA. AND I LIVE IN 

1345
00:57:09,592 --> 00:57:11,060
FREMONT. I'M HERE A PART OF THE

1346
00:57:11,060 --> 00:57:13,897
FOR SEATTLE PROJECT AND I AM 

1347
00:57:13,897 --> 00:57:16,699
ALSO HERE ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT 

1348
00:57:16,699 --> 00:57:19,369
THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES 

1349
00:57:19,369 --> 00:57:19,936
LEGISLATION. AS YOU HEARD 

1350
00:57:19,936 --> 00:57:21,237
PREVIOUSLY, AND FROM ME 

1351
00:57:21,237 --> 00:57:22,806
PERSONALLY, I'M PART OF A STONE

1352
00:57:22,806 --> 00:57:25,442
WAY CORRIDOR AREA, AND PART OF 

1353
00:57:25,442 --> 00:57:28,878
THIS PACKAGE ADDRESSES CURRENT 

1354
00:57:28,878 --> 00:57:29,913
ZONING LIMITATIONS IN THAT 

1355
00:57:29,913 --> 00:57:31,247
SPACE. IT'S A CORRIDOR THAT I 

1356
00:57:31,247 --> 00:57:35,285
FREQUENT WITH ALL OF MY FRIENDS.

1357
00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:37,821
WE WALK, RUN, GO TO THE 

1358
00:57:37,821 --> 00:57:39,489
RESTAURANTS AND I WOULD LOVE FOR

1359
00:57:39,489 --> 00:57:40,657
MORE RESIDENTS TO LIVE IN THIS 

1360
00:57:40,657 --> 00:57:42,625
SPACE AND MANY MORE LIKE IT 

1361
00:57:42,625 --> 00:57:43,693
ACROSS THE CITY. I'M EXCITED 

1362
00:57:43,693 --> 00:57:44,294
ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES THIS 

1363
00:57:44,294 --> 00:57:46,329
LEGISLATION BRINGS TO DOCTOR A 

1364
00:57:46,329 --> 00:57:48,164
NEW MIX OF HOMES THAT WILL GIVE 

1365
00:57:48,164 --> 00:57:50,133
FOLKS OF ALL INCOME LEVELS A 

1366
00:57:50,133 --> 00:57:51,835
CHANCE TO LIVE NEAR THE TRANSIT,

1367
00:57:51,835 --> 00:57:54,337
THEIR WORK, PARKS AND MORE. I 

1368
00:57:54,337 --> 00:57:55,138
BELIEVE THE HOUSING 

1369
00:57:55,138 --> 00:57:56,806
OPPORTUNITIES, LEGISLATION IS AN

1370
00:57:56,806 --> 00:57:59,075
IMPORTANT STEP TO ENSURE WE ACT 

1371
00:57:59,075 --> 00:58:00,810
WITH URGENCY IN ADDRESSING SUCH 

1372
00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:02,212
A CRITICAL ISSUE. I HOPE YOU'LL

1373
00:58:02,212 --> 00:58:03,780
MOVE THIS FORWARD, THANKS FOR 

1374
00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:04,781
YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY, AND

1375
00:58:04,781 --> 00:58:10,820
ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO. 

1376
00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:13,790
>> THANK YOU. 

1377
00:58:13,790 --> 00:58:15,158
>> NEXT UP WILL BE BOB. 

1378
00:58:15,158 --> 00:58:15,992
>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR 

1379
00:58:15,992 --> 00:58:16,893
GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO 

1380
00:58:16,893 --> 00:58:21,097
SPEND A MINUTE OR TWO WITH YOU. 

1381
00:58:21,097 --> 00:58:23,967
MY NAME IS BOB ELWARD, I LIVE IN

1382
00:58:23,967 --> 00:58:27,704
WEST SEATTLE, I HAVE BEEN THE 

1383
00:58:27,704 --> 00:58:30,173
BENEFICIARY OF DECADES OF 

1384
00:58:30,173 --> 00:58:32,242
HOUSING POLICIES THAT HAVE 

1385
00:58:32,242 --> 00:58:34,043
BENEFITED ME GREATLY. TODAY I'M

1386
00:58:34,043 --> 00:58:35,945
HERE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE 

1387
00:58:35,945 --> 00:58:36,713
SUPPORT THE HOP LEGISLATION 

1388
00:58:36,713 --> 00:58:38,781
BECAUSE WHAT I DO NOW IS I SIT 

1389
00:58:38,781 --> 00:58:41,918
DOWN WITH MY DAUGHTER, HER 

1390
00:58:41,918 --> 00:58:43,353
HUSBAND, AND THEIR FRIENDS, AND 

1391
00:58:43,353 --> 00:58:46,556
INEVITABLY, WE TALK ABOUT 

1392
00:58:46,556 --> 00:58:48,057
POLITICS AND IT TURNS TO 

1393
00:58:48,057 --> 00:58:49,459
HOUSING, AND THE INCREDIBLE 

1394
00:58:49,459 --> 00:58:51,594
OBSTACLES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO

1395
00:58:51,594 --> 00:58:54,297
BE FACING AS THEY RAISE THEIR 

1396
00:58:54,297 --> 00:58:57,033
FAMILIES AND WANT TO STAY IN 

1397
00:58:57,033 --> 00:59:00,036
SEATTLE. HOP GIVES US A FIRST, 

1398
00:59:00,036 --> 00:59:01,738
YOU KNOW, MAYBE SMALL PAPER CUT 

1399
00:59:01,738 --> 00:59:04,574
AT THE START SOLVING SOME OF THE

1400
00:59:04,574 --> 00:59:05,942
ISSUES THAT THIS NEXT GENERATION

1401
00:59:05,942 --> 00:59:08,211
OF CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE 

1402
00:59:08,211 --> 00:59:13,483
FACING, SO I REALLY URGE YOU TO 

1403
00:59:13,483 --> 00:59:15,718
PLEASE GET BEHIND THIS, FIND 

1404
00:59:15,718 --> 00:59:17,554
OTHER HOPS-LIKE AMENDMENTS TO DO

1405
00:59:17,554 --> 00:59:19,656
THE POLICY, AND ALSO, THANK YOU 

1406
00:59:19,656 --> 00:59:21,824
FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE. I 

1407
00:59:21,824 --> 00:59:24,160
CAN'T IMAGINE GIVING UP THE 

1408
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,495
TIME, EFFORT, ENERGY, IT TAKES 

1409
00:59:25,495 --> 00:59:28,064
TO BECOME ELECTED, AND TO SHARE 

1410
00:59:28,064 --> 00:59:30,533
DAY IN AND DAY OUT. I HOPE YOU 

1411
00:59:30,533 --> 00:59:32,001
SHARE MY OPINIONS. THANK YOU. 

1412
00:59:32,001 --> 00:59:35,471
>> THANK YOU. 

1413
00:59:35,471 --> 00:59:38,975
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE OLIVER 

1414
00:59:38,975 --> 00:59:41,077
FOLLOWED BY KYLE, STEVE, AND 

1415
00:59:41,077 --> 00:59:41,277
LISA. 

1416
00:59:41,277 --> 00:59:42,645
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBERS. 

1417
00:59:42,645 --> 00:59:44,747
I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE HOP 

1418
00:59:44,747 --> 00:59:46,215
LEGISLATION. I LIVE IN MOUNT 

1419
00:59:46,215 --> 00:59:52,188
BAKER IN DISTRICT 2. I RIDE MY 

1420
00:59:52,188 --> 00:59:53,256
BIKE TO CITY HALL BECAUSE [ 

1421
00:59:53,256 --> 00:59:54,757
INAUDIBLE ] BUT IF YOU RIDE YOUR

1422
00:59:54,757 --> 00:59:57,760
BIKE, YOU GO A LITTLE BIT ON 

1423
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,029
RAINIER AVENUE, YOU GO THROUGH 

1424
01:00:00,029 --> 01:00:03,533
JOSE PARK, YOU GO BY 12th AND 

1425
01:00:03,533 --> 01:00:04,834
JACKSON, YOU GO BY FOURTH AVENUE

1426
01:00:04,834 --> 01:00:06,336
OR YOU COME UP FOURTH AVENUE, 

1427
01:00:06,336 --> 01:00:07,670
AND YOU SEE AGAIN AND AGAIN WHY 

1428
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:10,006
WE NEED MORE HOUSING IN THIS 

1429
01:00:10,006 --> 01:00:11,507
CITY. I HOPE YOU GUYS TRY RIDING

1430
01:00:11,507 --> 01:00:14,143
YOUR BIKE. IT'S LIKE A FRONT 

1431
01:00:14,143 --> 01:00:16,279
AND CENTER VIEW OF WHAT WE NEED 

1432
01:00:16,279 --> 01:00:17,680
AND THERE ARE LOT OF IMPORTANT 

1433
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,182
THINGS WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO

1434
01:00:19,182 --> 01:00:21,517
CONTINUE TO MOVE WITH THE COMP 

1435
01:00:21,517 --> 01:00:22,619
PLAN. THERE'S A LOT OF 

1436
01:00:22,619 --> 01:00:23,519
INTENSITY AROUND DATA CENTERS. 

1437
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:25,154
ALL OF THESE BIG, HARD ISSUES. I

1438
01:00:25,154 --> 01:00:28,157
FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN EASY ONE. 

1439
01:00:28,157 --> 01:00:30,526
THESE ARE LIKE A FEW TARGETED 

1440
01:00:30,526 --> 01:00:31,628
UP-ZONES THAT ARE GOING TO GET 

1441
01:00:31,628 --> 01:00:36,366
US THOUSANDS OF HOMES FOR PEOPLE

1442
01:00:36,366 --> 01:00:38,001
OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. SO I 

1443
01:00:38,001 --> 01:00:39,135
HOPE YOU ALL SUPPORT THIS 

1444
01:00:39,135 --> 01:00:39,669
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. 

1445
01:00:39,669 --> 01:00:49,345
>> THANK YOU. 

1446
01:00:49,345 --> 01:00:55,318
>> HI, I AM KYLER. I'M A D3 

1447
01:00:55,318 --> 01:00:56,285
RESIDENT IN CAPITOL HILL. I'M 

1448
01:00:56,285 --> 01:00:57,887
HERE TO SUPPORT THE HOP 

1449
01:00:57,887 --> 01:01:00,323
LEGISLATION AS WELL. HOUSING 

1450
01:01:00,323 --> 01:01:01,357
STARTS AND NEW PERMITTING IS AT 

1451
01:01:01,357 --> 01:01:04,494
A STAND STILL IN THE CITY. WHICH

1452
01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:08,331
IS TERRIBLE NEWS FOR ALL OF US 

1453
01:01:08,331 --> 01:01:09,265
WHO RENT. PRETTY MUCH MEANS IN 

1454
01:01:09,265 --> 01:01:12,468
THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS WE 

1455
01:01:12,468 --> 01:01:15,171
WILL SEE SKYROCKETING RENTS ONCE

1456
01:01:15,171 --> 01:01:18,007
AGAIN. THIS IS NOT JUST MY 

1457
01:01:18,007 --> 01:01:19,409
HYPOTHESIS. THIS IS BOTH WHAT 

1458
01:01:19,409 --> 01:01:21,344
DEVELOPERS AND LANDLORDS AND THE

1459
01:01:21,344 --> 01:01:23,179
CITY ARE PLANNING ON HAPPENING. 

1460
01:01:23,179 --> 01:01:25,448
WE'RE BAKING THIS INTO OUR 

1461
01:01:25,448 --> 01:01:27,817
PLANS. SO WE SHOULD BE DOING 

1462
01:01:27,817 --> 01:01:28,451
EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO KEEP 

1463
01:01:28,451 --> 01:01:29,152
PEOPLE FROM GETTING PUSHED 

1464
01:01:29,152 --> 01:01:30,820
FURTHER TO THE MARGINS IN THE 

1465
01:01:30,820 --> 01:01:32,522
CITY. I DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE 

1466
01:01:32,522 --> 01:01:34,457
PEOPLE HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE 

1467
01:01:34,457 --> 01:01:35,892
NEIGHBORHOODS THEY CALL HOME. I 

1468
01:01:35,892 --> 01:01:39,362
DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SEE MORE 

1469
01:01:39,362 --> 01:01:40,663
PEOPLE BECOME HOMELESS. AT THE 

1470
01:01:40,663 --> 01:01:42,465
SAME TIME, TANGENTALLY, WE'RE 

1471
01:01:42,465 --> 01:01:45,401
NOT GOING TO GET NEW PERMANENT 

1472
01:01:45,401 --> 01:01:46,469
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR A HANDFUL

1473
01:01:46,469 --> 01:01:49,005
OF YEARS, THANKS TO THE TRUMP 

1474
01:01:49,005 --> 01:01:52,508
ADMINISTRATION. SO WE WILL NOT 

1475
01:01:52,508 --> 01:01:54,377
BE PREPARED FOR THE INFLUX OF 

1476
01:01:54,377 --> 01:01:56,045
ADDITIONAL HOME UNLESSNESS. THIS

1477
01:01:56,045 --> 01:01:57,780
IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD 

1478
01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:59,082
HOUSING NOW IN PLACES THAT 

1479
01:01:59,082 --> 01:02:02,485
PEOPLE WANT IT. I PARTICULARLY 

1480
01:02:02,485 --> 01:02:05,555
WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IT ALSO 

1481
01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:07,690
MAKES PASSIVE HOUSE HIGHLY 

1482
01:02:07,690 --> 01:02:09,058
ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSING, 

1483
01:02:09,058 --> 01:02:09,625
MODULAR CONSTRUCTION, MASS 

1484
01:02:09,625 --> 01:02:11,194
TIMBER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS 

1485
01:02:11,194 --> 01:02:13,730
GORGEOUS. I WISH I COULD LIVE IN

1486
01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:15,631
ONE. IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE 

1487
01:02:15,631 --> 01:02:17,934
LIKELY TO GET BUILT DUE TO 

1488
01:02:17,934 --> 01:02:18,968
DESIGN REVIEW CHANGES. WE SHOULD

1489
01:02:18,968 --> 01:02:21,070
ENCOURAGE THAT AS MUCH AS 

1490
01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:22,672
POSSIBLE, AND THAT'S THE 

1491
01:02:22,672 --> 01:02:24,140
FUTURE. LET'S BUILD A PUP LINE 

1492
01:02:24,140 --> 01:02:27,810
OF REALLY, REALLY GREAT, DENSE 

1493
01:02:27,810 --> 01:02:28,411
HOUSING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 

1494
01:02:28,411 --> 01:02:32,582
>> THANK YOU AND JUST FOR THE 

1495
01:02:32,582 --> 01:02:36,319
RECORD, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT 

1496
01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:37,186
COUNCIL PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH 

1497
01:02:37,186 --> 01:02:44,026
JOINED US 10 TO 15 MINUTES AGO, 

1498
01:02:44,026 --> 01:02:46,796
SO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 

1499
01:02:46,796 --> 01:02:49,899
>> NEXT UP. 

1500
01:02:49,899 --> 01:02:51,000
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY

1501
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,768
NAME IS VENAY AND I LIVE IN 

1502
01:02:52,768 --> 01:02:54,737
MOUNT BAKER. I'M HERE THIS 

1503
01:02:54,737 --> 01:02:56,572
MORNING FOR SEATTLE. I'M ASKING

1504
01:02:56,572 --> 01:02:58,875
YOU TODAY TO PASS THE HOP 

1505
01:02:58,875 --> 01:03:01,210
LEGISLATION. MY WIFE AND I BOTH 

1506
01:03:01,210 --> 01:03:05,882
WORK IN PRIMARY CARE IN THE 

1507
01:03:05,882 --> 01:03:08,784
SEATTLE AREA. OVER THE PAST TEN 

1508
01:03:08,784 --> 01:03:10,753
YEARS WE'VE SAID GOODBYE TO 

1509
01:03:10,753 --> 01:03:12,188
MANY COLLEAGUE OF OURS WHO HAVE 

1510
01:03:12,188 --> 01:03:13,055
LEFT SEATTLE, BECAUSE THEY CAN 

1511
01:03:13,055 --> 01:03:14,891
NO LONGER AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. 

1512
01:03:14,891 --> 01:03:19,295
THE COST OF HOUSING WAS ALWAYS 

1513
01:03:19,295 --> 01:03:20,129
THEIR NUMBER ONE ISSUE. JUST 

1514
01:03:20,129 --> 01:03:20,963
LAST WEEK, AN ANNOUNCEMENT 

1515
01:03:20,963 --> 01:03:24,567
SHE'S MOVING HER FAMILY TO 

1516
01:03:24,567 --> 01:03:26,769
TEXAS. WE MUST DO MORE TO MAKE 

1517
01:03:26,769 --> 01:03:27,537
SEATTLE AFFORDABLE AGAIN. 

1518
01:03:27,537 --> 01:03:30,506
PASSING HOP IS A STEP IN THE 

1519
01:03:30,506 --> 01:03:31,841
RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU. 

1520
01:03:31,841 --> 01:03:42,084
>> THANK YOU. 

1521
01:03:44,787 --> 01:03:45,521
>> REDDICK SAYS WE'RE NUMBER 

1522
01:03:45,521 --> 01:03:49,225
FOUR ON THE LIST OF CITIES THAT 

1523
01:03:49,225 --> 01:03:50,693
PEOPLE ARE LEAVING. THAT ISN'T 

1524
01:03:50,693 --> 01:03:51,761
THE WHOLE STORY, BECAUSE YES, WE

1525
01:03:51,761 --> 01:03:53,796
DO HAVE PEOPLE STILL COMING IN. 

1526
01:03:53,796 --> 01:03:58,734
BUT WHAT IT DOES SAY IS THE BOOM

1527
01:03:58,734 --> 01:03:59,969
IS SLOWING IMMENSELY. AND THAT 

1528
01:03:59,969 --> 01:04:03,539
FEWER PEOPLE ARE COMING IN THAN 

1529
01:04:03,539 --> 01:04:04,507
ARE LEAVING, AND WE TALK ABOUT 

1530
01:04:04,507 --> 01:04:07,577
HOUSING HERE LIKE WE BUILD MORE 

1531
01:04:07,577 --> 01:04:10,279
AND IT WILL GET CHEAPER. I CAN 

1532
01:04:10,279 --> 01:04:12,081
TELL YOU THAT PHILOSOPHY HAS NOT

1533
01:04:12,081 --> 01:04:14,217
WORKED. I DARE YOU TO LOOK AT 

1534
01:04:14,217 --> 01:04:18,788
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO SEATTLE 

1535
01:04:18,788 --> 01:04:19,789
HOUSING UNDER THAT PHILOSOPHY. 

1536
01:04:19,789 --> 01:04:23,492
IT HAS CONTINUED TO GO WAY, WAY 

1537
01:04:23,492 --> 01:04:25,628
UP. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS, 

1538
01:04:25,628 --> 01:04:29,432
HOUSING FOR WHO? NOW IF YOU MAKE

1539
01:04:29,432 --> 01:04:31,601
$150,000 A YEAR, YOU HAVE 

1540
01:04:31,601 --> 01:04:34,070
HOUSING. ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD 

1541
01:04:34,070 --> 01:04:38,774
HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO MAKE 

1542
01:04:38,774 --> 01:04:42,478
$50,000 A YEAR? $45,000 A YEAR? 

1543
01:04:42,478 --> 01:04:44,880
$60,000 A YEAR? THAT IS THE REAL

1544
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:49,018
QUESTION. THE OTHER THING IS, AS

1545
01:04:49,018 --> 01:04:50,219
A SEATTLE SCENE I'M FEELING 

1546
01:04:50,219 --> 01:04:53,823
LIKE A DOG TREAT. THE BIG DOG 

1547
01:04:53,823 --> 01:04:57,426
SEEM IT'S TO BE THE DEVELOPERS.

1548
01:04:57,426 --> 01:05:02,498
AND AS I LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA, 

1549
01:05:02,498 --> 01:05:05,801
OBSCENE PROFIT SEEMS TO BE THE 

1550
01:05:05,801 --> 01:05:08,504
GOAL, BECAUSE THE MARKET PRICE 

1551
01:05:08,504 --> 01:05:15,144
DOES NOT GO DOWN WHEN YOU SUB SE

1552
01:05:15,144 --> 01:05:17,480
DICE THEM. A WHILE BACK, ONE WAS

1553
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:18,281
CROWING ABOUT 400% PROFIT. IS 

1554
01:05:18,281 --> 01:05:23,853
THAT TOO MUCH? IS IT JUST A NEW 

1555
01:05:23,853 --> 01:05:24,620
FLOOR? LET US TAKE LOOK AT 

1556
01:05:24,620 --> 01:05:25,922
WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY

1557
01:05:25,922 --> 01:05:29,058
SEE HOUSING PEOPLE WHO REALLY 

1558
01:05:29,058 --> 01:05:30,826
NEED IT. WORKING CLASS PEOPLE 

1559
01:05:30,826 --> 01:05:31,961
HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB TRYING

1560
01:05:31,961 --> 01:05:34,530
TO ELIMINATE FROM THE CITY. YOU 

1561
01:05:34,530 --> 01:05:39,235
DID SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB IN THE 

1562
01:05:39,235 --> 01:05:40,536
INTERNATIONAL JOB DOING 

1563
01:05:40,536 --> 01:05:42,038
PREDECESSORS, LET'S TAKE A LOOK

1564
01:05:42,038 --> 01:05:43,906
AT PEOPLE LIVING HERE UNITE NOW,

1565
01:05:43,906 --> 01:05:49,545
AND NOT FOR THE PEOPLE THATMENT 

1566
01:05:49,545 --> 01:05:50,479
WANT TO COME. THANK YOU. 

1567
01:05:50,479 --> 01:05:55,351
>> EXIN UP, WE HAVE LISA, 

1568
01:05:55,351 --> 01:05:56,752
FOLLOWED BY DAVID, ALEX, SEWSEN,

1569
01:05:56,752 --> 01:05:57,053
AND ASHLEY. 

1570
01:05:57,053 --> 01:06:00,556
>> HI, MY NAME IS LISA. I'M A 

1571
01:06:00,556 --> 01:06:01,557
RESIDENT FOR DISTRICT 1, AND 

1572
01:06:01,557 --> 01:06:03,893
I'M HERE WITH FOR SEATTLE 

1573
01:06:03,893 --> 01:06:08,264
TODAY. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO 

1574
01:06:08,264 --> 01:06:09,699
APPROVE THE HOUSING 

1575
01:06:09,699 --> 01:06:11,233
OPPORTUNITIES PACKAGE. AS YOU 

1576
01:06:11,233 --> 01:06:14,270
MAY HAVE NOTICED, I'M A PARENT.

1577
01:06:14,270 --> 01:06:14,870
AS WE'VE BEEN BUILDING OUR 

1578
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:16,238
COMMUNITY, MORE AND MORE OF THE 

1579
01:06:16,238 --> 01:06:17,840
PEOPLE THAT WE'RE MEETING ARE 

1580
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:18,908
TALKING ABOUT LEAVING SEATTLE, 

1581
01:06:18,908 --> 01:06:20,309
BECAUSE THEY'RE FINDING IT 

1582
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:22,144
HARDER AND HARDER TO FIND PLACES

1583
01:06:22,144 --> 01:06:23,746
FOR THEM TO LIVE. THEIR OPTIONS 

1584
01:06:23,746 --> 01:06:24,880
ARE EITHER LONG COMMUTES, WHICH 

1585
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,882
MEANS LESS TIME AT HOME, LESS 

1586
01:06:26,882 --> 01:06:30,186
TIME IN THEIR COMMUNITY, OR 

1587
01:06:30,186 --> 01:06:31,987
FEELING INSECURE ABOUT THEIR 

1588
01:06:31,987 --> 01:06:32,722
HOUSING. THIS PACKAGE WILL OFFER

1589
01:06:32,722 --> 01:06:33,923
MORE HOUSING OPTIONS SO THAT 

1590
01:06:33,923 --> 01:06:35,358
PEOPLE STAY AND INVEST IN 

1591
01:06:35,358 --> 01:06:38,961
SEATTLE, AND MAKE IT THEIR HOME.

1592
01:06:38,961 --> 01:06:40,563
THIS WILL ALSO STORE CRITICAL 

1593
01:06:40,563 --> 01:06:41,530
WORKERS LIKE TEACHERS AND 

1594
01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:43,032
CARETAKERS AND NURSES. PEOPLE 

1595
01:06:43,032 --> 01:06:48,537
THAT WE NEED FOR A THRIVING 

1596
01:06:48,537 --> 01:06:51,340
CITY. THE POLICY WORK IS DONE. 

1597
01:06:51,340 --> 01:06:52,475
LET'S GET THIS DONE. THANK YOU.

1598
01:06:52,475 --> 01:07:02,084
>> THANK YOU. 

1599
01:07:02,084 --> 01:07:04,487
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE DAVE, 

1600
01:07:04,487 --> 01:07:05,254
FOLLOWED BY ALEX, SUSAN, AND 

1601
01:07:05,254 --> 01:07:07,523
ASHLEY. 

1602
01:07:07,523 --> 01:07:10,025
>> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCIL.

1603
01:07:10,025 --> 01:07:11,761
WE KEEP HEARING THAT WE HAVE TO 

1604
01:07:11,761 --> 01:07:12,928
UPZONE, SO WE CAN HAVE 

1605
01:07:12,928 --> 01:07:14,230
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE'RE 

1606
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:16,665
NOT SEEING THE RESULTS OF THIS, 

1607
01:07:16,665 --> 01:07:17,833
WE'RE SEEING MARKET RATE 

1608
01:07:17,833 --> 01:07:18,367
HOUSING. WE'RE SEEING 

1609
01:07:18,367 --> 01:07:20,736
TOWNHOUSES GO UP ALL OVER THE 

1610
01:07:20,736 --> 01:07:22,671
CITY THAT COST OVER A MILLION 

1611
01:07:22,671 --> 01:07:24,807
DOLLARS. BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE 

1612
01:07:24,807 --> 01:07:27,343
THIS BELIEF IF WE KEEP UPZONING 

1613
01:07:27,343 --> 01:07:30,413
THINGS WILL GET AFFORDABLE. WELL

1614
01:07:30,413 --> 01:07:32,148
THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED IN 

1615
01:07:32,148 --> 01:07:33,649
VANCOUVER. VANCOUVER UPZONED ALL

1616
01:07:33,649 --> 01:07:38,154
OVER THE PLACE, AND NOW THEY'RE

1617
01:07:38,154 --> 01:07:40,423
THE THIRD MOST EXPENSIVE CITY IN

1618
01:07:40,423 --> 01:07:41,357
THE WORLD. THEY'RE NOT BUILDING

1619
01:07:41,357 --> 01:07:42,892
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU HAVE TO 

1620
01:07:42,892 --> 01:07:45,261
PUT SOMETHING IN THE LEGISLATION

1621
01:07:45,261 --> 01:07:46,395
THAT ACTUALLY MANDATES 

1622
01:07:46,395 --> 01:07:47,229
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT I 

1623
01:07:47,229 --> 01:07:49,331
HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. IF YOU LOOK 

1624
01:07:49,331 --> 01:07:54,036
AT ALL THE PERMITS THAT HAVE 

1625
01:07:54,036 --> 01:07:57,940
BEEN ISSUED SINCE PHASE 1 OF THE

1626
01:07:57,940 --> 01:07:59,375
COMP PLAN WAS APPROVED, THEY'RE

1627
01:07:59,375 --> 01:08:01,077
OFFERING TOWNHOUSES FOR WELL 

1628
01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:02,478
OVER $1 MILLION. THE LEGISLATION

1629
01:08:02,478 --> 01:08:05,381
DOESN'T DO THAT. ALSO, I LOOKED

1630
01:08:05,381 --> 01:08:07,216
AT APARTMENTS.COM THE OTHER DAY,

1631
01:08:07,216 --> 01:08:10,352
AND THERE WAS 13,000 APARTMENTS 

1632
01:08:10,352 --> 01:08:12,388
FOR RENT IN SEATTLE. SO WHAT IS 

1633
01:08:12,388 --> 01:08:14,557
THIS BIG RUSH? WHY DON'T WE PUS

1634
01:08:14,557 --> 01:08:18,127
A LITTLE BIT AND UNDERSTAND THE 

1635
01:08:18,127 --> 01:08:21,230
EFFECT OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY 

1636
01:08:21,230 --> 01:08:23,532
DOING. FURTHERMORE, THE COUNCIL 

1637
01:08:23,532 --> 01:08:24,700
BILL RAISES CONCERNS OF THE 

1638
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:27,103
IMPLICATION OF UPZONING THROUGH 

1639
01:08:27,103 --> 01:08:30,039
THE LAND USE COMMITTEE. IT IS 

1640
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:33,209
WIDELY RECOGNIZED THAT SUCH 

1641
01:08:33,209 --> 01:08:36,078
CHANGES BE INCORPORATED INTO THE

1642
01:08:36,078 --> 01:08:36,779
PLAN. AGAIN, IT BEARS 

1643
01:08:36,779 --> 01:08:38,380
RESEMBLANCE TO THE FEDERAL 

1644
01:08:38,380 --> 01:08:39,648
GOVERNMENT. COMMUNITY MEETINGS 

1645
01:08:39,648 --> 01:08:42,251
IN THE IMPACTED AREA SHOULD BE 

1646
01:08:42,251 --> 01:08:46,522
HELD, NOT COMMUNITY MEETINGS 

1647
01:08:46,522 --> 01:08:48,657
WITH LIMITED NOTICE. IT IS 

1648
01:08:48,657 --> 01:08:54,296
IMPERATIVE TO ALLOW THE PLANNED 

1649
01:08:54,296 --> 01:08:55,064
COMMITTEE TO FULFILL ITS 

1650
01:08:55,064 --> 01:08:55,664
RESPONSIBILITIES. THANK YOU. 

1651
01:08:55,664 --> 01:09:03,239
>> THANK YOU. 

1652
01:09:03,239 --> 01:09:09,178
>> I THINK IT'S ME. OH, GREAT. 

1653
01:09:09,178 --> 01:09:10,246
HI, COUNCIL, ALEX, DISTRICT 

1654
01:09:10,246 --> 01:09:15,751
THREE RESIDENT. TODAY I'M HERE 

1655
01:09:15,751 --> 01:09:16,685
TO SUPPORT HOP. HOUSING 

1656
01:09:16,685 --> 01:09:17,286
OPPORTUNITY AMENDMENTS. AND 

1657
01:09:17,286 --> 01:09:23,425
MAINLY, I WANT TO TAKE MY TIME 

1658
01:09:23,425 --> 01:09:26,495
JUST TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THIS 

1659
01:09:26,495 --> 01:09:27,096
PARTICULAR ISSUE. YOU'VE 

1660
01:09:27,096 --> 01:09:28,898
ALLOWED ME TO GET INVOLVED IN 

1661
01:09:28,898 --> 01:09:30,099
CITY POLITICAL LIFE, AND THIS 

1662
01:09:30,099 --> 01:09:32,001
HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE MOMENT 

1663
01:09:32,001 --> 01:09:33,969
AND EXPERIENCE. I CAN SPEAK FOR 

1664
01:09:33,969 --> 01:09:39,208
A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE

1665
01:09:39,208 --> 01:09:42,545
TODAY, WHO HAVE NEVER SPOKEN IN 

1666
01:09:42,545 --> 01:09:43,312
A COMMITTEE MEETING BEFORE. I 

1667
01:09:43,312 --> 01:09:45,080
THINK A LOT OF US JUST SEE THIS 

1668
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,484
AS ONE SMALL STEP IN THE NUMBER 

1669
01:09:48,484 --> 01:09:50,519
OF THINGS WE NEED TO DO SO HAVE 

1670
01:09:50,519 --> 01:09:55,791
AS MUCH HOUSING AS POSSIBLE IN 

1671
01:09:55,791 --> 01:09:59,028
THE CITY. I'M A PROUD, VERY 

1672
01:09:59,028 --> 01:09:59,728
PROUD SEATTLEITE. A SEATTLE 

1673
01:09:59,728 --> 01:10:00,863
RESIDENT FOR MOST OF MY LIFE. I 

1674
01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:03,165
THINK WE'RE THE BEST PLACE IN 

1675
01:10:03,165 --> 01:10:04,900
THE WORLD, AND CITY HAS CHANGED 

1676
01:10:04,900 --> 01:10:05,768
A TON. SOMETIMES NOT IN THE 

1677
01:10:05,768 --> 01:10:07,436
EXACT WAY WE WANT IT, YOU ABOUT 

1678
01:10:07,436 --> 01:10:09,805
IN A LOT OF WAYS IT REALLY HAS. 

1679
01:10:09,805 --> 01:10:11,507
I RODE THE LIGHT RAIL ACROSS THE

1680
01:10:11,507 --> 01:10:14,076
LAKE THE OTHER DAY, AND I CANNOT

1681
01:10:14,076 --> 01:10:16,912
BELIEVE I CAN TAKE THAT TO MY 

1682
01:10:16,912 --> 01:10:17,580
PARENTS' HOUSE. WE'RE HEADED 

1683
01:10:17,580 --> 01:10:18,614
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ANYWAYS, 

1684
01:10:18,614 --> 01:10:21,383
BUT I THINK IN HOUSING IN 

1685
01:10:21,383 --> 01:10:24,153
PARTICULAR, WE'RE SEEING A 

1686
01:10:24,153 --> 01:10:24,987
CLIFF. IT'S MAKING ME REALLY 

1687
01:10:24,987 --> 01:10:26,088
CONCERNED, I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE 

1688
01:10:26,088 --> 01:10:28,057
WHO WANT TO BE HERE TO BE ABLE 

1689
01:10:28,057 --> 01:10:30,025
TO BE HERE AS LONG AS THEY WANT.

1690
01:10:30,025 --> 01:10:31,894
I THINK HOP IS JUST A SMALL 

1691
01:10:31,894 --> 01:10:36,031
EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE CAN BE DOING,

1692
01:10:36,031 --> 01:10:39,068
AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE CAN 

1693
01:10:39,068 --> 01:10:40,002
WORK ON SOMETHING SIMILAR. 

1694
01:10:40,002 --> 01:10:40,669
SOMETHING THAT IS MEASURABLE AND

1695
01:10:40,669 --> 01:10:41,570
GETS YOU RESULTS IN A SHORT 

1696
01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:42,905
PERIOD OF TIME, WHILE OTHER WORK

1697
01:10:42,905 --> 01:10:44,206
IS GOING ON IN THE COMPREHENSIVE

1698
01:10:44,206 --> 01:10:45,507
PLAN, ET CETERA. SO THANK YOU 

1699
01:10:45,507 --> 01:10:46,842
ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, 

1700
01:10:46,842 --> 01:10:53,182
AND I'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE 

1701
01:10:53,182 --> 01:10:53,382
SOON. 

1702
01:10:53,382 --> 01:10:57,553
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE SUSAN, 

1703
01:10:57,553 --> 01:11:02,124
FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY. 

1704
01:11:02,124 --> 01:11:04,693
>> AGAIN, REGARDING COUNCIL BILL

1705
01:11:04,693 --> 01:11:09,565
121196. THIS JUMPS AHEAD OF THE 

1706
01:11:09,565 --> 01:11:11,266
MAYOR'S OWN COMPREHENSIVE 

1707
01:11:11,266 --> 01:11:16,438
PROCESS, UPZONING SEVEN AREAS OF

1708
01:11:16,438 --> 01:11:19,074
THE CITY NOW. NO TREE 

1709
01:11:19,074 --> 01:11:23,912
REQUIREMENTS. IT HARMS ANYONE IN

1710
01:11:23,912 --> 01:11:26,982
THE CITY WHOSE ABILITY TO STAY 

1711
01:11:26,982 --> 01:11:28,784
IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD DEPENDS ON

1712
01:11:28,784 --> 01:11:31,220
THE CITY THAT LISTENS TO PROFIT 

1713
01:11:31,220 --> 01:11:31,887
OVER CITIZENS. BEFORE ANY 

1714
01:11:31,887 --> 01:11:33,856
COMPONENT MOVES TO A FULL 

1715
01:11:33,856 --> 01:11:38,994
COUNCIL BILL REQUIRE A RACIAL 

1716
01:11:38,994 --> 01:11:42,231
EQUITY TOOL ANALYSIS AND IMPACT 

1717
01:11:42,231 --> 01:11:44,133
ASSESSMENT FOR EACH AFFECTED 

1718
01:11:44,133 --> 01:11:46,502
NEIGHBORHOOD. NO RACIAL ANALYSIS

1719
01:11:46,502 --> 01:11:49,438
WAS CONDUCTED, THAT ALONE SHOULD

1720
01:11:49,438 --> 01:11:50,906
STOP THIS BILL. HOUSING STOCKS 

1721
01:11:50,906 --> 01:11:52,408
WAY ABOVE LAST YEAR. I'M SEEING

1722
01:11:52,408 --> 01:11:55,911
MORE AND MORE FOR LEASE SIGNS UP

1723
01:11:55,911 --> 01:12:00,149
ACROSS THE CITY, WITH HEAVY 

1724
01:12:00,149 --> 01:12:01,050
LEASE INCENTIVES FOR RENTERS, 

1725
01:12:01,050 --> 01:12:02,451
WHICH STRONGLY REPRESENTS 

1726
01:12:02,451 --> 01:12:04,620
DECLINING DEMAND. IT HAS A LOT 

1727
01:12:04,620 --> 01:12:08,023
MORE TO DO WITH THE GROWING 

1728
01:12:08,023 --> 01:12:09,758
WEALTH MAP. PLEASE CONSIDER 

1729
01:12:09,758 --> 01:12:13,495
MECHANISMS THAT BETTER ADDRESS 

1730
01:12:13,495 --> 01:12:15,764
THE TRUE ECONOMIC ISSUE OF THE 

1731
01:12:15,764 --> 01:12:17,633
ECONOMIC DISPARITIES. THANK YOU.

1732
01:12:17,633 --> 01:12:20,803
>> THANK YOU. 

1733
01:12:20,803 --> 01:12:25,140
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE ASHLEY. NEXT 

1734
01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:32,481
WE HAVE JENNIFER. 

1735
01:12:32,481 --> 01:12:34,183
>> HELLO, AGAIN. YOU MAY HAVE 

1736
01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:35,284
GOTTEN NO SEPA COMMENTS POSSIBLY

1737
01:12:35,284 --> 01:12:40,856
BECAUSE VERY FEW SEEM TO KNOW 

1738
01:12:40,856 --> 01:12:41,890
ABOUT THE CB 121196 PUBLIC 

1739
01:12:41,890 --> 01:12:44,159
ENGAGEMENT WINDOW. I SPEND A LOT

1740
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:45,194
OF TIME PROTECTING THE 

1741
01:12:45,194 --> 01:12:46,395
ECOSYSTEM, AND I CAN'T ALWAYS 

1742
01:12:46,395 --> 01:12:50,265
KEEP UP ON THESE BILLS. I DO 

1743
01:12:50,265 --> 01:12:51,767
BELIEVE THIS BILL NEEDS AN 

1744
01:12:51,767 --> 01:12:52,401
AFFECTIVE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, 

1745
01:12:52,401 --> 01:12:54,303
BEFORE ANY VOTE IS TAKEN, 

1746
01:12:54,303 --> 01:12:55,371
ESPECIALLY WHILE SOME ARE MOVING

1747
01:12:55,371 --> 01:12:56,805
TO ELIMINATE ENVIRONMENTAL 

1748
01:12:56,805 --> 01:12:58,040
REVIEW AND APPEALS. I CANNOT 

1749
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,476
WAIT FOR A SEATTLE THAT WALKS 

1750
01:13:00,476 --> 01:13:01,643
THE EQUITY TALK WITH EQUAL 

1751
01:13:01,643 --> 01:13:05,614
REPRESENTATION OF THOSE WHO 

1752
01:13:05,614 --> 01:13:07,950
PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT 

1753
01:13:07,950 --> 01:13:08,751
SUSTAINS US, ALSO, CENTRAL 

1754
01:13:08,751 --> 01:13:10,219
DISTRICT PEOPLE LIKE RUBY AS 

1755
01:13:10,219 --> 01:13:12,755
WELL AS THOSE WHO PROFIT THE 

1756
01:13:12,755 --> 01:13:15,023
MOST, LIKE DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE 

1757
01:13:15,023 --> 01:13:18,293
BEEN GETTING PRIVATE MONTHLY 

1758
01:13:18,293 --> 01:13:19,895
MEETINGS FOR YEARS. PLEASER 

1759
01:13:19,895 --> 01:13:22,798
REQUIRE A RACIAL EQUITY TOOL 

1760
01:13:22,798 --> 01:13:25,100
ANALYSIS AND A SENIOR IMPACT 

1761
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:26,068
ASSESSMENT BEFORE ANY COMPONENT 

1762
01:13:26,068 --> 01:13:33,342
MOVES TO A FULL COUNCIL VOTE. 

1763
01:13:33,342 --> 01:13:34,443
THE CITY'S OWN FISCAL NOTES, NO

1764
01:13:34,443 --> 01:13:35,444
RACIAL ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED. 

1765
01:13:35,444 --> 01:13:37,079
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. 

1766
01:13:37,079 --> 01:13:38,046
>> THANK YOU. 

1767
01:13:38,046 --> 01:13:40,616
>> CHAIR, THAT'S OUR LAST 

1768
01:13:40,616 --> 01:13:48,757
IN-PERSON COMMENTER. WE'LL NOW 

1769
01:13:48,757 --> 01:13:58,400
MOVE ONTO OUR REMOTE COMMENTERS,

1770
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:07,976
STARTING WITH JUNE. 

1771
01:14:07,976 --> 01:14:14,616
>> HELLO. I'M JUNE FROM 

1772
01:14:14,616 --> 01:14:19,688
DISTRICT 2. I'M SPEAKING IN 

1773
01:14:19,688 --> 01:14:22,324
OPPOSITION TO COUNCIL BILL 

1774
01:14:22,324 --> 01:14:24,793
121196. YOUR ACTIONS DO NOT 

1775
01:14:24,793 --> 01:14:26,228
MATCH YOUR RHETORIC. WE KNOW 

1776
01:14:26,228 --> 01:14:28,864
THIS SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS DOES 

1777
01:14:28,864 --> 01:14:31,033
NOT WORK, POURING MORE RESOURCES

1778
01:14:31,033 --> 01:14:34,169
INTO AN INEQUITABLE SYSTEM MAKES

1779
01:14:34,169 --> 01:14:35,270
INEQUITY WORSE, NOT BETTER. THE 

1780
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:36,839
PEOPLE WHO ALREADY BENEFIT WILL 

1781
01:14:36,839 --> 01:14:37,806
BENEFIT MORE. THE PEOPLE ALREADY

1782
01:14:37,806 --> 01:14:46,415
LEFT OUT, WILL BE LEFT OUT MORE.

1783
01:14:46,415 --> 01:14:49,651
POURING RESOURCES INTO A SYSTEM 

1784
01:14:49,651 --> 01:14:51,186
FASTER, SIMPLY INCREASES 

1785
01:14:51,186 --> 01:14:52,421
INEQUITY FASTER. I WANT THE CITY

1786
01:14:52,421 --> 01:14:53,822
TO CONDUCT AN ANALYSIS ON 

1787
01:14:53,822 --> 01:14:56,692
HOUSING COSTS AND ON THE IMPACT 

1788
01:14:56,692 --> 01:15:01,964
ON THE ENVIRONMENT. LOOK AT THE 

1789
01:15:01,964 --> 01:15:03,498
BUILDING PERMITS THAT SBCI IS 

1790
01:15:03,498 --> 01:15:07,636
APPROVING, PLACE YOUR ACTIONS ON

1791
01:15:07,636 --> 01:15:09,771
THAT,ING RATHER THAN THAT OF 

1792
01:15:09,771 --> 01:15:14,376
BUILDERS THAT IS CONVEYED 

1793
01:15:14,376 --> 01:15:15,310
THROUGH SECRET MEETINGS. JUMP 

1794
01:15:15,310 --> 01:15:21,250
AHEAD OF THE PROCESS, TO GIVE 

1795
01:15:21,250 --> 01:15:22,784
ZONING ORDINANCES NOW. PROPERTY 

1796
01:15:22,784 --> 01:15:23,352
TAXES, LIVEABILITY, AND THE 

1797
01:15:23,352 --> 01:15:25,387
ENVIRONMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO 

1798
01:15:25,387 --> 01:15:28,323
ALREADY LIVE IN THESE 

1799
01:15:28,323 --> 01:15:30,392
NEIGHBORHOODS. DO NOT ADVANCE CB

1800
01:15:30,392 --> 01:15:38,400
121196 AFTER A SINGLE PUBLIC 

1801
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:47,409
HEARING STILL REQUIRES A GENUINE

1802
01:15:47,409 --> 01:15:49,611
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. SEVER THE 

1803
01:15:49,611 --> 01:15:52,114
MADISON MILLER REZONING. REQUIRE

1804
01:15:52,114 --> 01:15:54,116
A RACIAL EQUITY TOOL KIT 

1805
01:15:54,116 --> 01:15:57,019
ANALYSIS AND ITS SENIOR AND 

1806
01:15:57,019 --> 01:15:58,687
FIXED INCOME ASSESSMENT FOR EACH

1807
01:15:58,687 --> 01:16:00,555
AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOOD, AS OTHER 

1808
01:16:00,555 --> 01:16:03,492
PEOPLE HAVE ADVOCATED, BEFORE 

1809
01:16:03,492 --> 01:16:07,462
ANY COMPONENT MOVES TO A FULL 

1810
01:16:07,462 --> 01:16:08,130
COUNCIL VOTE. THE CITY HAS 

1811
01:16:08,130 --> 01:16:08,830
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THIS HAS NOT 

1812
01:16:08,830 --> 01:16:12,200
BEEN DONE. 

1813
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:13,735
>> THANK YOU. NEXT, WE WILL HAVE

1814
01:16:13,735 --> 01:16:24,279
BONNEY WILLIAMS. BONNEY, PLEASE 

1815
01:16:30,519 --> 01:16:40,829
PRESS STAR 6. BONNEY, PLEASE 

1816
01:16:40,829 --> 01:16:46,034
PRESS STAR 6. OKAY. NEXT, WE 

1817
01:16:46,034 --> 01:16:56,578
WILL HAVE SCOTT. SCOTT, PLEASE 

1818
01:17:04,186 --> 01:17:14,596
PRESS STAR 6. OKAY, NEXT IS 

1819
01:17:15,897 --> 01:17:20,002
SCOTT CLARK. SCOTT CLARK, PLEASE

1820
01:17:20,002 --> 01:17:30,579
PRESS STAR 6. I CAN SEE YOU'RE 

1821
01:17:36,718 --> 01:17:39,955
MUTED. 

1822
01:17:39,955 --> 01:17:42,324
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? 

1823
01:17:42,324 --> 01:17:44,393
>> YES. 

1824
01:17:44,393 --> 01:17:46,762
>> OKAY. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME 

1825
01:17:46,762 --> 01:17:48,463
IS SCOTT CLARK. I'M A LICENSED 

1826
01:17:48,463 --> 01:17:51,099
ARCHITECT IN SEATTLE AND A 

1827
01:17:51,099 --> 01:17:54,803
FOUNDING PARTNER AT CLARK 

1828
01:17:54,803 --> 01:17:55,637
BARNES. WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY 

1829
01:17:55,637 --> 01:17:56,371
SUPPORT THE HOUSING 

1830
01:17:56,371 --> 01:17:57,773
OPPORTUNITIES BILL 121196, AND 

1831
01:17:57,773 --> 01:17:59,174
ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT 

1832
01:17:59,174 --> 01:18:01,143
IT AS WRITTEN. THANK YOU VERY 

1833
01:18:01,143 --> 01:18:02,344
MUCH. BYE BYE. 

1834
01:18:02,344 --> 01:18:12,587
>> THANK YOU. 

1835
01:18:15,624 --> 01:18:26,001
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE DAVID. 

1836
01:18:30,138 --> 01:18:33,108
>> TODAY IS A REMINDER THAT THE 

1837
01:18:33,108 --> 01:18:33,809
LANDLORDS SABOTAGED THE 

1838
01:18:33,809 --> 01:18:34,876
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WHAT 

1839
01:18:34,876 --> 01:18:39,748
YOU'RE VOTING ON TODAY WAS 

1840
01:18:39,748 --> 01:18:41,450
CREATED BY BRUCE HARRELL, THE 

1841
01:18:41,450 --> 01:18:42,984
MOST RACIST, UNTRUSTWORTHY MAYOR

1842
01:18:42,984 --> 01:18:44,920
OTHER THAN ED MURRAY AND JENNY 

1843
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,955
DURKAN. I BRING THIS UP, BECAUSE

1844
01:18:46,955 --> 01:18:49,024
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALL ARE 

1845
01:18:49,024 --> 01:18:50,592
LITERALLY TAKING INDUSTRIAL 

1846
01:18:50,592 --> 01:18:52,260
COMMERCIAL ZONED AREAS AND 

1847
01:18:52,260 --> 01:18:54,563
ACTING LIKE YOU'RE DOING FUTURE

1848
01:18:54,563 --> 01:18:56,231
GENERATIONS A FAVOR BY STICKING 

1849
01:18:56,231 --> 01:18:58,467
THEM IN THE COMMERCIAL 

1850
01:18:58,467 --> 01:18:59,801
INDUSTRIAL ZONES, AND JUST 

1851
01:18:59,801 --> 01:19:01,103
CHANGING THE ZONING, ACTING LIKE

1852
01:19:01,103 --> 01:19:03,672
IT'S ALL GOOD, BUT YET YOU 

1853
01:19:03,672 --> 01:19:05,974
DON'T ALLOW THEM TO GO HIGHER 

1854
01:19:05,974 --> 01:19:09,511
TO GET A BETTER VIEW, YOU'RE 

1855
01:19:09,511 --> 01:19:14,449
PUTTING THEM AT WHAT? 10FEET 

1856
01:19:14,449 --> 01:19:15,283
HIGHER? LIKE SIX OR SEVEN 

1857
01:19:15,283 --> 01:19:16,918
STORIES SO YOU'RE STILL 

1858
01:19:16,918 --> 01:19:19,187
SURROUNDED BY OTHER COMMERCIAL 

1859
01:19:19,187 --> 01:19:21,256
BUILDINGS, THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED

1860
01:19:21,256 --> 01:19:25,060
TO GET A JOB AT. WE NEED 

1861
01:19:25,060 --> 01:19:25,727
WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE

1862
01:19:25,727 --> 01:19:28,530
SIDE STREETS ARE LITERALLY TORE 

1863
01:19:28,530 --> 01:19:30,098
UP, WHERE YOU HAVE GREEN 

1864
01:19:30,098 --> 01:19:30,899
REDEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU CAN WALK

1865
01:19:30,899 --> 01:19:32,134
A BLOCK WITHOUT ACTUALLY WALKING

1866
01:19:32,134 --> 01:19:34,569
ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. BUT THE

1867
01:19:34,569 --> 01:19:36,338
THING THAT'S WEIRD ABOUT IT, 

1868
01:19:36,338 --> 01:19:38,573
AND TELLTALE ABOUT HOW LANDLORDS

1869
01:19:38,573 --> 01:19:40,408
ON THE CITY COUNCIL ARE 

1870
01:19:40,408 --> 01:19:41,810
SELF-DEALING WITH CONFLICTS OF 

1871
01:19:41,810 --> 01:19:43,545
INTEREST THAT HAVE BACK STABBED 

1872
01:19:43,545 --> 01:19:45,046
THE WORKING CLASS AND THE 

1873
01:19:45,046 --> 01:19:47,749
RENTERS, STONE WAY IS REALLY 

1874
01:19:47,749 --> 01:19:49,217
CLOSE TO THE SEATTLE PUBLIC 

1875
01:19:49,217 --> 01:19:52,521
UTILITIES TRANSFER STATION, 

1876
01:19:52,521 --> 01:19:54,623
WHICH IS LIKE A DUMP, AND YOU 

1877
01:19:54,623 --> 01:19:57,459
ALL ARE SAYING WE'RE DOING YOU 

1878
01:19:57,459 --> 01:19:58,393
ALL A FAVOR. WE'RE GOING TO 

1879
01:19:58,393 --> 01:19:59,194
IMPROVE YOUR LIVEABILITY, 

1880
01:19:59,194 --> 01:20:01,763
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU 

1881
01:20:01,763 --> 01:20:02,664
IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, BUT 

1882
01:20:02,664 --> 01:20:05,100
WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE ZONE 

1883
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:06,034
TO RESIDENTIAL. BUT WE DON'T 

1884
01:20:06,034 --> 01:20:08,170
WANT YOU TO LIVE IN OUR 

1885
01:20:08,170 --> 01:20:11,540
NEIGHBORHOODS. WE DON'T WANT 

1886
01:20:11,540 --> 01:20:16,978
YOU TO BUILD BACK BETTER IN OUR 

1887
01:20:16,978 --> 01:20:19,281
NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE WE'RE 

1888
01:20:19,281 --> 01:20:19,881
REMORTGAGED. PEOPLE WHO BACK 

1889
01:20:19,881 --> 01:20:21,716
STAB THE WORKING CLASS THINK 

1890
01:20:21,716 --> 01:20:23,318
IT'S SUITABLE FOR PEOPLE TO 

1891
01:20:23,318 --> 01:20:25,320
LIVE IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, 

1892
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,624
HANGING OVER THE HIGHWAY, RIGHT 

1893
01:20:29,624 --> 01:20:33,228
OVER THE TRANS ORIENTED TOXIC 

1894
01:20:33,228 --> 01:20:34,629
ZONES, YOU ALL ARE HYPOCRITES. 

1895
01:20:34,629 --> 01:20:36,998
>> THANK YOU. 

1896
01:20:36,998 --> 01:20:38,300
>> BONNEY WILLIAMS, WE'RE GOING

1897
01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:48,810
TO COME BACK TO YOU. BONNEY, 

1898
01:20:51,213 --> 01:20:59,888
PLEASE PRESS STAR 6. 

1899
01:20:59,888 --> 01:21:04,125
>> HI. SORRY FOR THE -- GOOD 

1900
01:21:04,125 --> 01:21:08,463
MORNING. I'M BONNEY WILLIAMS. 

1901
01:21:08,463 --> 01:21:12,868
I'M A D4 RESIDENT. I AM AGAINST

1902
01:21:12,868 --> 01:21:17,038
CB 121215, HOUSING OPPORTUNITY 

1903
01:21:17,038 --> 01:21:20,642
LEGISLATION. IT'S ANOTHER LAYER

1904
01:21:20,642 --> 01:21:21,977
OF REZONING. I'M NOT FOLLOWING.

1905
01:21:21,977 --> 01:21:28,049
I CANNOT FOLLOW THE PROCESS WHEN

1906
01:21:28,049 --> 01:21:29,451
COMP PLAN SELECT COMMITTEE IS 

1907
01:21:29,451 --> 01:21:32,988
ASSORTED MAPS, REVIEWS IN 2024. 

1908
01:21:32,988 --> 01:21:34,956
THE PUBLIC IS LOOKING TO SEE 

1909
01:21:34,956 --> 01:21:38,426
REZONES INTRODUCED THROUGHOUT, 

1910
01:21:38,426 --> 01:21:40,095
THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE AND HAVE 

1911
01:21:40,095 --> 01:21:44,032
MUCH GREATER PUBLIC INPUT. THE 

1912
01:21:44,032 --> 01:21:48,603
PROCESS HAS BEEN CALLED OUT 

1913
01:21:48,603 --> 01:21:50,438
TODAY IN THE TESTIMONY. AND I 

1914
01:21:50,438 --> 01:21:52,641
BELIEVE THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD 

1915
01:21:52,641 --> 01:21:56,144
PUSH THIS OFF TO PHASE 3. THE 

1916
01:21:56,144 --> 01:21:56,845
MAYOR HAS INTRODUCED NEW UPZONES

1917
01:21:56,845 --> 01:21:59,414
THERE, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO 

1918
01:21:59,414 --> 01:22:03,485
PUT IT OFF SO THE PUBLIC CAN 

1919
01:22:03,485 --> 01:22:05,253
REVIEW THIS LEGISLATION IN 

1920
01:22:05,253 --> 01:22:07,188
FREMONT, DOWNTOWN, U DISTRICT, 

1921
01:22:07,188 --> 01:22:09,858
BELLTOWN, RAINIER BEACH, AND 

1922
01:22:09,858 --> 01:22:14,229
MORE. SOME OF THE TOWERS ARE 

1923
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:15,330
DOUBLE THE ORIGINAL HEIGHTS. 

1924
01:22:15,330 --> 01:22:18,733
I'M AGAINST EXEMPTING NHA. I'M

1925
01:22:18,733 --> 01:22:21,336
GOING TO BE AGAINST ADDING 

1926
01:22:21,336 --> 01:22:22,971
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL ZONES 

1927
01:22:22,971 --> 01:22:25,874
AND LOW RISE ZONES TO THIS 

1928
01:22:25,874 --> 01:22:26,608
LEGISLATION. I THINK PEOPLE, IF 

1929
01:22:26,608 --> 01:22:27,809
THEY KNEW THAT THOSE THINGS WERE

1930
01:22:27,809 --> 01:22:29,444
IN THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE 

1931
01:22:29,444 --> 01:22:33,615
SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. 

1932
01:22:33,615 --> 01:22:34,549
TRANSPARENCY IS EXTREMELY 

1933
01:22:34,549 --> 01:22:37,118
IMPORTANT IN THIS PROCESS. IF WE

1934
01:22:37,118 --> 01:22:41,790
GO TOO FAST IT MAKES MISTAKES. 

1935
01:22:41,790 --> 01:22:42,490
IF YOU DO ROBUST COMMUNITY 

1936
01:22:42,490 --> 01:22:44,259
ENGAGEMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO 

1937
01:22:44,259 --> 01:22:45,794
WORRY AS MUCH ABOUT APPEALS AND 

1938
01:22:45,794 --> 01:22:47,362
PROBLEMS LATER. I AGAIN, I SAY 

1939
01:22:47,362 --> 01:22:51,800
THAT THE PROCESS HAS TO BE 

1940
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,135
TRANSPARENT, SO AGAIN, PUSH THIS

1941
01:22:54,135 --> 01:22:56,438
[ INAUDIBLE ] HISTORY. THANKS. 

1942
01:22:56,438 --> 01:23:00,542
>> THANK YOU. 

1943
01:23:00,542 --> 01:23:01,176
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE RICHARD 

1944
01:23:01,176 --> 01:23:11,720
ELLISON. RICHARD, PLEASE PRESS 

1945
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:28,036
STAR 6. 

1946
01:23:28,036 --> 01:23:32,207
>> WELL, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS 

1947
01:23:32,207 --> 01:23:35,176
RICHARD ELLISON. AND I'M A 

1948
01:23:35,176 --> 01:23:36,344
RETIRED BIOLOGIST. I'VE WRITTEN

1949
01:23:36,344 --> 01:23:37,011
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTS.

1950
01:23:37,011 --> 01:23:41,916
I'VE TAUGHT AT THE COMMUNITY 

1951
01:23:41,916 --> 01:23:43,785
COLLEGES IN THE SEATTLE AREA. CB

1952
01:23:43,785 --> 01:23:46,421
121215 PROVIDES NO PUBLIC 

1953
01:23:46,421 --> 01:23:48,790
NOTICE. IT GIVES AN EXEMPTIONS 

1954
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:51,993
ON ENVIRONMENTAL THRESHOLD 

1955
01:23:51,993 --> 01:23:53,628
DETERMINATIONS AND ANY 

1956
01:23:53,628 --> 01:23:55,830
COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AMENDMENTS. 

1957
01:23:55,830 --> 01:24:00,702
THIS BY NOT ALLOWING THE 

1958
01:24:00,702 --> 01:24:04,105
COMMUNITY TO REVIEW AND FILE 

1959
01:24:04,105 --> 01:24:05,140
APPEALS ON ENVIRONMENTAL 

1960
01:24:05,140 --> 01:24:06,908
DECISIONS THAT ARE CITYWIDE, 

1961
01:24:06,908 --> 01:24:08,676
LEAVES US NOT ONLY POWERLESS, 

1962
01:24:08,676 --> 01:24:11,713
BUT IT MISSES MANY OPPORTUNITIES

1963
01:24:11,713 --> 01:24:13,047
FOR THE COMMUNITY TO OFFER 

1964
01:24:13,047 --> 01:24:14,215
MITIGATIONS TO HOW TO APPROVE 

1965
01:24:14,215 --> 01:24:17,018
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE. THIS IS 

1966
01:24:17,018 --> 01:24:18,052
LIKE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION 

1967
01:24:18,052 --> 01:24:19,054
AND HOW THEY OPERATE. WELL, 

1968
01:24:19,054 --> 01:24:21,856
WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO WHAT WE 

1969
01:24:21,856 --> 01:24:23,358
WANT. WE DON'T HAVE TO CARE. 

1970
01:24:23,358 --> 01:24:24,459
WE'LL JUST CHANGE THE LAWS AND 

1971
01:24:24,459 --> 01:24:27,462
DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THIS IS 

1972
01:24:27,462 --> 01:24:29,531
LIKE IN CHINA, WHERE THEY DON'T

1973
01:24:29,531 --> 01:24:30,632
HAVE TO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL 

1974
01:24:30,632 --> 01:24:34,903
REVIEWS IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, 

1975
01:24:34,903 --> 01:24:38,073
THEY JUST GO AHEAD AND BUILD. 

1976
01:24:38,073 --> 01:24:44,579
THE COMPREHENSIVE VALUE USED TO 

1977
01:24:44,579 --> 01:24:47,549
CALL FOR 1 IN 4 ENVIRONMENTAL 

1978
01:24:47,549 --> 01:24:48,550
VALUES WERE STEWARDSHIP. 

1979
01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:49,217
UNFORTUNATELY, I'M IN STRONG 

1980
01:24:49,217 --> 01:24:52,087
FAVOR OF PUBLIC HOUSING AND MORE

1981
01:24:52,087 --> 01:24:52,754
HOUSING. BUT THE CITY LOOSENED 

1982
01:24:52,754 --> 01:24:54,022
UP THE ZONING, GAVE IT AWAY A 

1983
01:24:54,022 --> 01:24:57,892
LONG TIME AGO DOWN IN SOUTH LAKE

1984
01:24:57,892 --> 01:24:59,327
UNION AS A GIVEAWAY. 

1985
01:24:59,327 --> 01:25:00,328
SUBSEQUENTLY, WE LOST ALL THE 

1986
01:25:00,328 --> 01:25:02,497
LOWER INCOME AREAS FOR HOUSING, 

1987
01:25:02,497 --> 01:25:06,000
AND IT WAS ALL BUILT UP. NOW THE

1988
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:10,004
REMAINING PLACES THAT ARE -- 

1989
01:25:10,004 --> 01:25:13,274
EXIST ARE VERY COSTLY, I AGREE. 

1990
01:25:13,274 --> 01:25:14,943
BUILD TALLER. BUILD AROUND 

1991
01:25:14,943 --> 01:25:15,944
EXISTING LEGISLATION. GIVE US 

1992
01:25:15,944 --> 01:25:17,745
OPEN SPACE FOR PEOPLE. BUT WHAT 

1993
01:25:17,745 --> 01:25:19,447
YOU'RE DOING HERE IS CREATING 

1994
01:25:19,447 --> 01:25:21,015
WILD WEST WITHOUT ANY CONTROLS, 

1995
01:25:21,015 --> 01:25:22,250
AND SAYING, WELL, WE'RE ALLOWED

1996
01:25:22,250 --> 01:25:25,620
TO DO WHAT WE WANT, WE'RE THE 

1997
01:25:25,620 --> 01:25:26,554
CITY COUNCIL. WE'LL JUST GET 

1998
01:25:26,554 --> 01:25:27,755
RID OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, 

1999
01:25:27,755 --> 01:25:29,257
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I FEEL 

2000
01:25:29,257 --> 01:25:34,095
LIKE THIS IS A DISSERVICE TO THE

2001
01:25:34,095 --> 01:25:34,395
COMMUNITY. 

2002
01:25:34,395 --> 01:25:44,639
>> THANK YOU. 

2003
01:25:46,641 --> 01:25:49,010
>> CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES SPEAKERS

2004
01:25:49,010 --> 01:25:50,812
FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. 

2005
01:25:50,812 --> 01:25:52,280
>> THANK YOU, ALL. AS THAT WAS 

2006
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,182
OUR LAST REGISTERED SPEAKER 

2007
01:25:54,182 --> 01:25:57,785
PRESENT TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC 

2008
01:25:57,785 --> 01:26:00,822
HEARING, THE PUBLIC BILL ON 

2009
01:26:00,822 --> 01:26:03,358
COUNSEL BILL 121196 IS NOW 

2010
01:26:03,358 --> 01:26:04,259
CLOSED. THANK YOU TO OUR 

2011
01:26:04,259 --> 01:26:07,262
PRESENTER AND STAFF FOR JOINING 

2012
01:26:07,262 --> 01:26:11,032
US. COULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE 

2013
01:26:11,032 --> 01:26:13,601
YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD? 

2014
01:26:13,601 --> 01:26:17,505
>> HERE WE GO. 

2015
01:26:17,505 --> 01:26:18,306
>> THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES. WE'VE

2016
01:26:18,306 --> 01:26:19,874
PREVIOUSLY HAD BRIEFINGS ON 

2017
01:26:19,874 --> 01:26:23,478
THIS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS 

2018
01:26:23,478 --> 01:26:24,078
ON THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES 

2019
01:26:24,078 --> 01:26:34,322
LEGISLATION? 

2020
01:26:42,096 --> 01:26:42,864
>> COUNCILMEMBER RINCK, PLEASE 

2021
01:26:42,864 --> 01:26:43,264
GO AHEAD. 

2022
01:26:43,264 --> 01:26:46,501
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. JUST 

2023
01:26:46,501 --> 01:26:48,603
COMMENTSES FOR TODAY. I WANT TO 

2024
01:26:48,603 --> 01:26:49,537
START BY SAYING THIS HOUSING 

2025
01:26:49,537 --> 01:26:50,338
OPPORTUNITIES LEGISLATION IS 

2026
01:26:50,338 --> 01:26:53,942
BOTH NEEDED AND VERY EXCITING. 

2027
01:26:53,942 --> 01:26:54,542
THIS BILL WILL HELP US BRING 

2028
01:26:54,542 --> 01:26:56,211
ONLINE, A NUMBER OF PROJECTS 

2029
01:26:56,211 --> 01:26:58,446
INCLUDING SOME AFFORDABLE 

2030
01:26:58,446 --> 01:27:01,950
HOUSING PROJECTS WHILE ALSO 

2031
01:27:01,950 --> 01:27:03,518
SUPPORTING SUSTAINABLE BUILDING 

2032
01:27:03,518 --> 01:27:04,852
PRACTICES LIKE MASS TIMBER AND 

2033
01:27:04,852 --> 01:27:05,486
PASSIVE HOUSE CONSTRUCTION. THAT

2034
01:27:05,486 --> 01:27:07,088
BEING SAID, I HAVE HIT A COUPLE 

2035
01:27:07,088 --> 01:27:13,628
OF POINTS OF FRUSTRATION WHEN I 

2036
01:27:13,628 --> 01:27:14,262
ATTEMPTED TO BRING FORWARD AND 

2037
01:27:14,262 --> 01:27:14,896
DEVELOP SOME AMENDMENTS FOR THIS

2038
01:27:14,896 --> 01:27:15,530
BILL. AMENDMENTS THAT I BELIEVE 

2039
01:27:15,530 --> 01:27:17,465
LIVE UP TO THE SPIRIT OF THIS 

2040
01:27:17,465 --> 01:27:18,099
LEGISLATION AND SOME OVERARCHING

2041
01:27:18,099 --> 01:27:18,733
GOALS THAT I THINK WE CAN ALL 

2042
01:27:18,733 --> 01:27:20,168
AGREE UPON. I WAS HOPING TO 

2043
01:27:20,168 --> 01:27:21,903
BRING FORWARD TWO AMENDMENTS FOR

2044
01:27:21,903 --> 01:27:25,506
TODAY, THE FIRST OF WHICH WOULD 

2045
01:27:25,506 --> 01:27:26,040
EXPAND THE DEFINITION OF 

2046
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,042
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO ALIGN WITH

2047
01:27:28,042 --> 01:27:30,545
STATE LAW, BUT ALSO TO 

2048
01:27:30,545 --> 01:27:31,279
INCORPORATE SOCIAL HOUSING AND 

2049
01:27:31,279 --> 01:27:34,782
ADDITIONAL TIMES OF HOUSING. THE

2050
01:27:34,782 --> 01:27:37,018
SECOND AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE 

2051
01:27:37,018 --> 01:27:38,686
EXPANDED INCENTIVES FOR GREEN 

2052
01:27:38,686 --> 01:27:39,120
BUILDING PROJECTS. 

2053
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,388
UNFORTUNATELY, NEITHER OF MY 

2054
01:27:40,388 --> 01:27:43,891
AMENDMENTS WILL BE VOTED ON 

2055
01:27:43,891 --> 01:27:47,395
TODAY, DUE TO CONSTRAINTS OUR 

2056
01:27:47,395 --> 01:27:49,764
CITY FACES UNDER THE 

2057
01:27:49,764 --> 01:27:54,235
ENVIRONMENTAL ACT, KNOWN AS 

2058
01:27:54,235 --> 01:27:56,504
SEPA, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED 

2059
01:27:56,504 --> 01:27:59,374
TODAY. I FIND IT A LITTLE 

2060
01:27:59,374 --> 01:28:02,877
IRONIC, IT'S HOLDING BACK ON US

2061
01:28:02,877 --> 01:28:03,911
EXPENDING FROM MORE 

2062
01:28:03,911 --> 01:28:04,979
ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLY TYPES OF 

2063
01:28:04,979 --> 01:28:05,980
HOUSING. THAT BEING SAID, I'M 

2064
01:28:05,980 --> 01:28:07,515
STILL VERY EXCITED TO BE 

2065
01:28:07,515 --> 01:28:08,549
SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION 

2066
01:28:08,549 --> 01:28:11,319
TODAY, AND BE A SPONSOR ON THIS 

2067
01:28:11,319 --> 01:28:13,388
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU, CHAIR 

2068
01:28:13,388 --> 01:28:16,858
LIN FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. 

2069
01:28:16,858 --> 01:28:22,130
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER 

2070
01:28:22,130 --> 01:28:22,830
RINCK. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 

2071
01:28:22,830 --> 01:28:23,431
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. 

2072
01:28:23,431 --> 01:28:24,098
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I HAD A 

2073
01:28:24,098 --> 01:28:26,734
BRIEFING ABOUT IT, AND I KNOW 

2074
01:28:26,734 --> 01:28:29,304
IT'S BEEN IN COMMITTEE AND 

2075
01:28:29,304 --> 01:28:30,538
FULLY SUPPORTED. ONE OF THE 

2076
01:28:30,538 --> 01:28:32,607
QUESTIONS THAT -- AND I DON'T 

2077
01:28:32,607 --> 01:28:34,809
KNOW IF LIZ, YOU CAN ANSWER 

2078
01:28:34,809 --> 01:28:37,211
THIS, AND I THINK I HAD ASKED 

2079
01:28:37,211 --> 01:28:39,614
THE DEPARTMENT. MY ONLY 

2080
01:28:39,614 --> 01:28:40,682
FRUSTRATION WITH THIS IS JUST 

2081
01:28:40,682 --> 01:28:41,716
THE OUTREACH. I THINK THAT WE 

2082
01:28:41,716 --> 01:28:43,851
CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE OUTREACH 

2083
01:28:43,851 --> 01:28:47,088
NEEDS TO BE BETTER, AND 

2084
01:28:47,088 --> 01:28:48,923
SOMETIMES IT'S JUST THE 

2085
01:28:48,923 --> 01:28:50,491
EDUCATION PIECE. AND SO FOR ME, 

2086
01:28:50,491 --> 01:28:53,261
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT 

2087
01:28:53,261 --> 01:28:58,266
UP ABOUT THE ZONING AROUND 

2088
01:28:58,266 --> 01:29:03,738
MADISON MILLER, SO THAT'S THE 

2089
01:29:03,738 --> 01:29:04,806
YMCA, MEREDITH MATTHEWS YMCA, 

2090
01:29:04,806 --> 01:29:06,240
IT'S EBENEZER, AME CHURCH, AND 

2091
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:07,975
THE THREE PARCELS THERE, THE 

2092
01:29:07,975 --> 01:29:09,444
PARKING LOT, AND THEY HAVE OTHER

2093
01:29:09,444 --> 01:29:13,147
PIECES. SO I'M NOT GOING TO 

2094
01:29:13,147 --> 01:29:15,216
SLOW DOWN THE LEGISLATION, 

2095
01:29:15,216 --> 01:29:16,050
COLLEAGUES, I'M ABSTAINING 

2096
01:29:16,050 --> 01:29:17,085
TODAY. I DO PLAN ON SUPPORTING 

2097
01:29:17,085 --> 01:29:20,621
THIS, BUT I DO WANT TO CHECK 

2098
01:29:20,621 --> 01:29:23,391
WITH THE PASTOR AT THAT CHURCH 

2099
01:29:23,391 --> 01:29:28,696
AND OTHER -- AND SOME FOLKS AT 

2100
01:29:28,696 --> 01:29:30,898
THE YMCA TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE 

2101
01:29:30,898 --> 01:29:34,202
UNDERSTANDING OF THIS. I KNOW 

2102
01:29:34,202 --> 01:29:36,204
PEOPLE HAD REQUESTED THIS 

2103
01:29:36,204 --> 01:29:37,305
LEGISLATION TO COME FORWARD WITH

2104
01:29:37,305 --> 01:29:37,939
THE DIFFERENT ZONING. HOWEVER, 

2105
01:29:37,939 --> 01:29:39,974
IT HAS COME TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT

2106
01:29:39,974 --> 01:29:41,743
SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE NOT 

2107
01:29:41,743 --> 01:29:43,878
AWARE. SO I JUST WANT TO DO MY 

2108
01:29:43,878 --> 01:29:45,480
DUE DILIGENCE AND DOUBLE CHECK. 

2109
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:47,281
I WAS TAKING WHAT THE DEPARTMENT

2110
01:29:47,281 --> 01:29:48,649
HAD TOLD ME TO BE THEIR 

2111
01:29:48,649 --> 01:29:50,585
ASSESSMENT OF OUTREACH. I HAVE A

2112
01:29:50,585 --> 01:29:51,219
DIFFERENT DEFINITION. SO A LOT 

2113
01:29:51,219 --> 01:29:52,854
OF THAT OUTREACH IS ALSO A 

2114
01:29:52,854 --> 01:29:54,155
LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION WITH 

2115
01:29:54,155 --> 01:29:58,593
FOLKS, SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND 

2116
01:29:58,593 --> 01:30:00,728
LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON, MAKING IT

2117
01:30:00,728 --> 01:30:01,262
PALATABLE STORE PENAL. I 

2118
01:30:01,262 --> 01:30:02,964
UNDERSTAND WE TALK ABOUT SEPA, 

2119
01:30:02,964 --> 01:30:05,933
AND THERE WAS NO COMMENT. I 

2120
01:30:05,933 --> 01:30:08,870
DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO SOMETIMES

2121
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:10,037
UNDERSTANDS WHAT SEPA IS. THEIR 

2122
01:30:10,037 --> 01:30:12,540
OUTREACH IS USUALLY TO ME 

2123
01:30:12,540 --> 01:30:14,542
SENDING AN EMAIL OR TEXT MESSAGE

2124
01:30:14,542 --> 01:30:16,043
OR SENDING INFORMATION OUT. SO 

2125
01:30:16,043 --> 01:30:23,384
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WILL BE 

2126
01:30:23,384 --> 01:30:24,585
ABSTAINING. I'M NOT GOING TO 

2127
01:30:24,585 --> 01:30:25,787
SLOW THIS DOWN. I JUST WANT 

2128
01:30:25,787 --> 01:30:26,554
PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT ARE 

2129
01:30:26,554 --> 01:30:27,655
WITHIN THAT AREA ABOUT SOME OF 

2130
01:30:27,655 --> 01:30:29,157
THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING TO 

2131
01:30:29,157 --> 01:30:30,625
THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I REALLY 

2132
01:30:30,625 --> 01:30:33,461
APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE ON 

2133
01:30:33,461 --> 01:30:35,229
THIS, COLLEAGUES, THANK YOU. 

2134
01:30:35,229 --> 01:30:38,866
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

2135
01:30:38,866 --> 01:30:41,402
HOLLINGSWORTH. COLLEAGUES, ANY 

2136
01:30:41,402 --> 01:30:46,507
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? 

2137
01:30:46,507 --> 01:30:53,047
OKAY, WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH. I 

2138
01:30:53,047 --> 01:30:55,016
APPRECIATE COUNCIL CENTRAL 

2139
01:30:55,016 --> 01:30:58,085
STAFF, I APPRECIATE MY 

2140
01:30:58,085 --> 01:30:59,353
COLLEAGUES. AND COUNCIL 

2141
01:30:59,353 --> 01:31:00,588
PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH, I 

2142
01:31:00,588 --> 01:31:02,490
APPRECIATE YOUR -- OH, VICE 

2143
01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:03,090
CHAIR STRAUSS, PLEASE. 

2144
01:31:03,090 --> 01:31:05,159
>> HEY, SORRY, CHAIR LIN, FOR 

2145
01:31:05,159 --> 01:31:06,194
THE LATE HAND THERE. STATING 

2146
01:31:06,194 --> 01:31:07,528
I'M GOING TO RESERVE MY 

2147
01:31:07,528 --> 01:31:08,930
COMMENTS FOR FULL COUNCIL. I'VE

2148
01:31:08,930 --> 01:31:10,932
BEEN TRACKING THIS FOR A NUMBER 

2149
01:31:10,932 --> 01:31:12,867
OF YEARS. IT'S DISAPPOINTING TO

2150
01:31:12,867 --> 01:31:15,036
HEAR THAT SOME FOLKS DID NOT 

2151
01:31:15,036 --> 01:31:17,939
HAVE A -- THE APPROPRIATE 

2152
01:31:17,939 --> 01:31:19,240
OUTREACH. I'LL BE VOTING YES 

2153
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,543
TODAY, BUT I'LL BE RESERVING MY

2154
01:31:22,543 --> 01:31:24,445
COMMENTS FOR FULL COUNCIL. THANK

2155
01:31:24,445 --> 01:31:24,745
YOU, SIR. 

2156
01:31:24,745 --> 01:31:27,081
>> OKAY. THANK YOU VICE CHAIR 

2157
01:31:27,081 --> 01:31:27,849
STRAUSS. AGAIN, THANK YOU, 

2158
01:31:27,849 --> 01:31:30,017
COLLEAGUES, AND YOU KNOW, I DO 

2159
01:31:30,017 --> 01:31:33,554
THINK WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER IN

2160
01:31:33,554 --> 01:31:35,489
TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH

2161
01:31:35,489 --> 01:31:38,493
AND IT'S ALWAYS A BALANCE, 

2162
01:31:38,493 --> 01:31:41,429
BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME WE ALSO

2163
01:31:41,429 --> 01:31:42,730
HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. AT SOME 

2164
01:31:42,730 --> 01:31:44,732
POINT, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE 

2165
01:31:44,732 --> 01:31:47,068
DECISIONS ON CRITICAL ISSUES FOR

2166
01:31:47,068 --> 01:31:48,970
OUR CITY, DESPITE THE FACT THAT 

2167
01:31:48,970 --> 01:31:50,738
WE MAY, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE

2168
01:31:50,738 --> 01:31:53,441
KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE 

2169
01:31:53,441 --> 01:31:55,443
THAT WANT TO HAVE MORE 

2170
01:31:55,443 --> 01:31:56,944
ENGAGEMENT. WITH THAT, I WOULD 

2171
01:31:56,944 --> 01:31:58,212
LIKE TO MOVE WITHOUT OBJECTION, 

2172
01:31:58,212 --> 01:31:59,881
WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO SUSPEND 

2173
01:31:59,881 --> 01:32:01,983
THE RULE SO THAT WE CAN TAKE ON 

2174
01:32:01,983 --> 01:32:03,885
THIS MATTER TODAY. 

2175
01:32:03,885 --> 01:32:07,722
>> SECOND. 

2176
01:32:07,722 --> 01:32:09,490
>> THANK YOU. SO HAVING 

2177
01:32:09,490 --> 01:32:11,325
SECONDED, AND NOT SEEING ANY 

2178
01:32:11,325 --> 01:32:14,929
OBJECTION, I MOVE THAT THE 

2179
01:32:14,929 --> 01:32:16,197
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF 

2180
01:32:16,197 --> 01:32:18,099
121196, IS THERE A SECOND? 

2181
01:32:18,099 --> 01:32:18,399
>> SECOND. 

2182
01:32:18,399 --> 01:32:27,475
>> THANK YOU. IT IS MOVED AND 

2183
01:32:27,475 --> 01:32:29,377
SECONDED TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF

2184
01:32:29,377 --> 01:32:32,046
COUNCIL BILL 121196. IS THERE 

2185
01:32:32,046 --> 01:32:33,547
ANY COMMENTS? WILL THE CLERK 

2186
01:32:33,547 --> 01:32:35,216
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL OR 

2187
01:32:35,216 --> 01:32:37,551
RECOMMENDATION THAT COUNCIL PASS

2188
01:32:37,551 --> 01:32:38,686
THE BILL? 

2189
01:32:38,686 --> 01:32:40,788
>> VICE CHAIR STRAUSS. 

2190
01:32:40,788 --> 01:32:43,257
>> AYE. 

2191
01:32:43,257 --> 01:32:45,092
>> COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. 

2192
01:32:45,092 --> 01:32:45,560
>> YES. 

2193
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:46,694
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

2194
01:32:46,694 --> 01:32:47,061
HOLLINGSWORTH. 

2195
01:32:47,061 --> 01:32:48,729
>> ABSTAIN. 

2196
01:32:48,729 --> 01:32:51,832
>> COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

2197
01:32:51,832 --> 01:32:52,266
>> YES. 

2198
01:32:52,266 --> 01:32:53,200
>> CHAIR LIN. 

2199
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:53,467
>> YES. 

2200
01:32:53,467 --> 01:32:56,837
>> THERE ARE FOUR VOTES. 

2201
01:32:56,837 --> 01:33:00,608
>> IT BE WILL SENT TO THE JUNE 

2202
01:33:00,608 --> 01:33:05,446
22nd CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WILL 

2203
01:33:05,446 --> 01:33:13,654
THE CLERK PLEASE READ AGENDA 

2204
01:33:13,654 --> 01:33:19,393
ITEM NUMBER 2? 

2205
01:33:19,393 --> 01:33:24,231
>> COUNCIL BILL 21214. AMENDING 

2206
01:33:24,231 --> 01:33:26,968
SECTION 23.84A.008, APPROVING A 

2207
01:33:26,968 --> 01:33:30,271
WORK PLAN, DECLARING AN 

2208
01:33:30,271 --> 01:33:33,708
EMERGENCY, AND ESTABLISHING AN 

2209
01:33:33,708 --> 01:33:36,210
IMMEDIATE EFFECTIVE DATE, ALL BY

2210
01:33:36,210 --> 01:33:39,914
A THREE/FOUR VOTE OF THE CITY 

2211
01:33:39,914 --> 01:33:40,181
COUNCIL. 

2212
01:33:40,181 --> 01:33:41,716
>> I'M ERIC McCONAGHY ON THE 

2213
01:33:41,716 --> 01:33:42,350
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. 

2214
01:33:42,350 --> 01:33:45,353
>> WE HAD A GENERAL DISCUSSION 

2215
01:33:45,353 --> 01:33:46,487
ABOUT DATA CENTERS PREVIOUSLY. 

2216
01:33:46,487 --> 01:33:48,789
WE NOW HAVE THE PROPOSED 

2217
01:33:48,789 --> 01:33:49,590
MORATORIUM. OBVIOUSLY HEARD A 

2218
01:33:49,590 --> 01:33:51,425
LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT. IT'S BEEN

2219
01:33:51,425 --> 01:33:54,628
IN THE NEWS QUITE A BIT. THIS IS

2220
01:33:54,628 --> 01:33:57,264
FOR A BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. 

2221
01:33:57,264 --> 01:34:01,268
IT WILL COME BACK TO OUR NEXT 

2222
01:34:01,268 --> 01:34:06,874
COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL. SO NO

2223
01:34:06,874 --> 01:34:08,843
VOTE ON THIS TODAY. BUT DO ANY 

2224
01:34:08,843 --> 01:34:09,410
COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY 

2225
01:34:09,410 --> 01:34:19,954
QUESTIONS? LET'S SEE. OKAY. 

2226
01:34:23,424 --> 01:34:24,091
HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 

2227
01:34:24,091 --> 01:34:26,594
COUNCILMEMBER FOSTER. 

2228
01:34:26,594 --> 01:34:29,296
>> THANK YOU, SO MUCH. I 

2229
01:34:29,296 --> 01:34:30,164
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO 

2230
01:34:30,164 --> 01:34:32,933
ENGAGE IN THE CONVERSATION BEING

2231
01:34:32,933 --> 01:34:34,502
ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 

2232
01:34:34,502 --> 01:34:35,436
LEGISLATION REGARDING DATA 

2233
01:34:35,436 --> 01:34:38,406
CENTERS. I WONDER IF YOU CAN 

2234
01:34:38,406 --> 01:34:39,840
SPEAK TO JUST THE CURRENT 

2235
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,142
CONSIDERATION AROUND ENSURING 

2236
01:34:41,142 --> 01:34:42,843
THAT WE HAVE THIS APPROPRIATELY 

2237
01:34:42,843 --> 01:34:44,578
SCOPED IN SIZE. WE HEARD A LOT 

2238
01:34:44,578 --> 01:34:46,147
TODAY AROUND MAKING SURE THAT WE

2239
01:34:46,147 --> 01:34:47,415
HAVE COVERAGE FOR LARGE DATA 

2240
01:34:47,415 --> 01:34:49,450
CENTERS. SO IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO 

2241
01:34:49,450 --> 01:34:51,452
THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY

2242
01:34:51,452 --> 01:34:51,719
HELPFUL. 

2243
01:34:51,719 --> 01:34:54,955
>> I'LL DO MY BEST IN THE 

2244
01:34:54,955 --> 01:34:57,591
ABSENCE OF HB HARPER WHO IS ON 

2245
01:34:57,591 --> 01:34:59,293
POINT. WE SORT OF SWITCH OFF IN 

2246
01:34:59,293 --> 01:35:02,129
TANDEM ON THIS TOPIC. THIS 

2247
01:35:02,129 --> 01:35:03,798
AFTERNOON, I'LL BE SPEAKING TO 

2248
01:35:03,798 --> 01:35:04,665
THE DATA CENTER THAT 

2249
01:35:04,665 --> 01:35:06,067
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ IS THE 

2250
01:35:06,067 --> 01:35:09,103
SPONSOR OF. THAT BEING SAID, MY 

2251
01:35:09,103 --> 01:35:09,837
UNDERSTAND IS THERE IS SOME 

2252
01:35:09,837 --> 01:35:12,640
ONGOING CONCERN ABOUT THE SIZE 

2253
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,209
OF THE DATA CENTERS, AND WE CAN 

2254
01:35:15,209 --> 01:35:16,777
BRING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT 

2255
01:35:16,777 --> 01:35:19,313
THAT TO YOU VERY SOON. SO 

2256
01:35:19,313 --> 01:35:24,051
HOPEFULLY THAT'S HELPFUL, AND 

2257
01:35:24,051 --> 01:35:27,888
JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT TERMS 

2258
01:35:27,888 --> 01:35:30,658
LIKE MEGAVOLT, AMPEERS AND 

2259
01:35:30,658 --> 01:35:31,926
THINGS -- AS YOUR CENTRAL STAFF 

2260
01:35:31,926 --> 01:35:34,361
SO TO MAKE IT SO THAT A LAY 

2261
01:35:34,361 --> 01:35:35,729
PERSON HAS A FIGHTING CHANCE TO 

2262
01:35:35,729 --> 01:35:36,497
UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY. SO 

2263
01:35:36,497 --> 01:35:41,402
WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST. 

2264
01:35:41,402 --> 01:35:43,437
>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

2265
01:35:43,437 --> 01:35:45,539
I KNOW WHEN HB WAS HERE, ONE OF 

2266
01:35:45,539 --> 01:35:47,475
THE THINGS SHE TALKED ABOUT WAS 

2267
01:35:47,475 --> 01:35:48,743
HOW CHALLENGING IT IS, GIVEN 

2268
01:35:48,743 --> 01:35:50,144
THERE'S SUCH A LACK OF CLEAR 

2269
01:35:50,144 --> 01:35:52,446
DEFINITIONS ON SOME OF THE TERMS

2270
01:35:52,446 --> 01:35:53,948
WE'RE USING. I LOOK FORWARD TO 

2271
01:35:53,948 --> 01:35:56,317
THAT ENGAGEMENT, AND AM HAPPY TO

2272
01:35:56,317 --> 01:35:57,451
TAKE THAT CONVERSATION OFFLINE. 

2273
01:35:57,451 --> 01:35:57,985
THANK YOU. 

2274
01:35:57,985 --> 01:36:00,154
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2275
01:36:00,154 --> 01:36:00,755
FOSTER. COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. 

2276
01:36:00,755 --> 01:36:02,223
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND THANK 

2277
01:36:02,223 --> 01:36:04,492
YOU TO ALL OF THE FOLKS WHO 

2278
01:36:04,492 --> 01:36:07,261
TURNED OUT TODAY TO PROVIDE 

2279
01:36:07,261 --> 01:36:08,529
COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC. WE 

2280
01:36:08,529 --> 01:36:10,297
DEFINITELY HEAR AND SHARE YOUR 

2281
01:36:10,297 --> 01:36:11,465
CONCERNS. I'M WONDERING IF WE 

2282
01:36:11,465 --> 01:36:13,033
CAN JUST DIVE IN, AND CAN YOU 

2283
01:36:13,033 --> 01:36:14,635
EXPLAIN HOW WE LANDED ON THIS 

2284
01:36:14,635 --> 01:36:15,836
DEFINITION OF DATA CENTER BEFORE

2285
01:36:15,836 --> 01:36:17,138
US? 

2286
01:36:17,138 --> 01:36:18,873
>> AGAIN, I'LL DO MY BEST 

2287
01:36:18,873 --> 01:36:27,281
CONSIDERING THAT I WAS SORT OF 

2288
01:36:27,281 --> 01:36:28,849
PERIPHERAL TO THE CONVERSATION. 

2289
01:36:28,849 --> 01:36:30,251
SO I ALSO WILL DEFER TO 

2290
01:36:30,251 --> 01:36:32,052
COUNCILMEMBER LIN, PLEASE STEP 

2291
01:36:32,052 --> 01:36:35,022
IN BECAUSE OF MY ROLE OF SORT OF

2292
01:36:35,022 --> 01:36:36,724
HELPING OUT AND FILLING IN FOR 

2293
01:36:36,724 --> 01:36:39,460
HB. THERE ARE A WIDE RANGE OF 

2294
01:36:39,460 --> 01:36:41,662
DATA CENTERS IN SEATTLE AND 

2295
01:36:41,662 --> 01:36:43,030
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE'VE READ 

2296
01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:44,465
ABOUT THEM IN THE NEWS AT 

2297
01:36:44,465 --> 01:36:45,633
DIFFERENT SCALES. OTHER PLACES 

2298
01:36:45,633 --> 01:36:50,371
HAVE FOUND WAYS TO SORT OF 

2299
01:36:50,371 --> 01:36:52,706
MEASURE AND SCALE THESE. MY 

2300
01:36:52,706 --> 01:36:53,741
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SIZE 

2301
01:36:53,741 --> 01:36:55,676
OF THE SCOPE IS THAT IT WOULD 

2302
01:36:55,676 --> 01:36:59,346
CROSS SORT OF A SIGNIFICANT 

2303
01:36:59,346 --> 01:37:01,115
THRESHOLD, YOU KNOW, MY WORDS, 

2304
01:37:01,115 --> 01:37:03,083
NOT A LEGAL TERM, SO THAT IT 

2305
01:37:03,083 --> 01:37:05,319
WOULD BE MEANINGFUL TO HAVE A 

2306
01:37:05,319 --> 01:37:08,022
YEAR TO STUDY THE IMPACTS OF 

2307
01:37:08,022 --> 01:37:10,958
DATA CENTERS, WITHIN THAT TIME, 

2308
01:37:10,958 --> 01:37:12,426
AND YET NOT SORT OF CAPTURE DATA

2309
01:37:12,426 --> 01:37:14,228
CENTERS OR SIMILAR THINGS OF A 

2310
01:37:14,228 --> 01:37:16,897
SMALLER SIZE THAT DON'T RISE TO

2311
01:37:16,897 --> 01:37:19,233
THE OCCASION. HOPEFULLY I'M 

2312
01:37:19,233 --> 01:37:19,900
SORT OF ACCURATELY REPRESENTING 

2313
01:37:19,900 --> 01:37:25,306
THAT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO BE A 

2314
01:37:25,306 --> 01:37:28,075
LITTLE BIT WRONG AND HEAR BETTER

2315
01:37:28,075 --> 01:37:28,842
FROM COUNCILMEMBER LIN. 

2316
01:37:28,842 --> 01:37:35,749
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH, WE 

2317
01:37:35,749 --> 01:37:36,817
WORKED WITH CENTRAL STAFF. WE 

2318
01:37:36,817 --> 01:37:37,284
WORKED WITH DIFFERENT 

2319
01:37:37,284 --> 01:37:38,519
STAKEHOLDERS AND YOU KNOW, THIS 

2320
01:37:38,519 --> 01:37:40,654
HAS BEEN AN ISSUE AROUND THE 

2321
01:37:40,654 --> 01:37:43,324
COUNTRY, AND WE'VE HAD, 

2322
01:37:43,324 --> 01:37:45,626
ESPECIALLY WITH THE MEGADATA 

2323
01:37:45,626 --> 01:37:48,028
CENTERS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE 

2324
01:37:48,028 --> 01:37:50,197
INCREASED INTEREST AROUND THE 

2325
01:37:50,197 --> 01:37:52,399
LANGUAGE MODELS AROUND 

2326
01:37:52,399 --> 01:37:53,334
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, AND WE 

2327
01:37:53,334 --> 01:37:55,236
HAVE HAD DATA CENTERS, AND WE 

2328
01:37:55,236 --> 01:38:00,441
HAVE DATA CENTERS IN SEATTLE 

2329
01:38:00,441 --> 01:38:01,508
TODAY. SMALLER DATA CENTERS, 

2330
01:38:01,508 --> 01:38:02,276
COLLOCATED, OFTENTIMES, 

2331
01:38:02,276 --> 01:38:05,546
ACCESSORY USE. WHAT WE HAVE NOT 

2332
01:38:05,546 --> 01:38:09,984
SEEN TO DATE IS THESE, YOU KNOW,

2333
01:38:09,984 --> 01:38:13,687
WHAT ARE TYPICALLY DESCRIBED AS 

2334
01:38:13,687 --> 01:38:15,389
DATA CENTERS, THESE STAND ALONE 

2335
01:38:15,389 --> 01:38:19,727
FACILITIES THAT ARE REALLY IN 

2336
01:38:19,727 --> 01:38:23,330
DEMAND. SO WE LARGELY ADOPTED 

2337
01:38:23,330 --> 01:38:25,199
THE, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY A 20 

2338
01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:28,402
MEGAWATT DEFINITION THAT IS 

2339
01:38:28,402 --> 01:38:29,270
BEING PROPOSED. THAT WAS 

2340
01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:29,970
PROPOSED THIS PAST LEGISLATION 

2341
01:38:29,970 --> 01:38:31,372
SESSION AT THE STATE LEVEL. IT 

2342
01:38:31,372 --> 01:38:32,806
IS BEING PROPOSED AROUND THE 

2343
01:38:32,806 --> 01:38:36,677
COUNTRY. AND PART OF THE IDEA 

2344
01:38:36,677 --> 01:38:39,747
WAS TO HAVE A STANDARD 

2345
01:38:39,747 --> 01:38:43,817
DEFINITION SO THAT WE COULD WORK

2346
01:38:43,817 --> 01:38:44,551
CROSS JURISDICTIONS WITH OUR 

2347
01:38:44,551 --> 01:38:45,319
OTHER CITIES, WITH THE STATE, 

2348
01:38:45,319 --> 01:38:47,187
BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE 

2349
01:38:47,187 --> 01:38:49,690
DIFFICULT IF WE ALL HAVE 

2350
01:38:49,690 --> 01:38:51,358
DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS ON WHAT A 

2351
01:38:51,358 --> 01:38:53,027
DATA CENTER, OR RATHER A 

2352
01:38:53,027 --> 01:38:54,595
MEGADATA CENTER MIGHT BE. THERE 

2353
01:38:54,595 --> 01:38:56,830
ARE TECHNICAL ISSUES HERE IN 

2354
01:38:56,830 --> 01:38:59,533
TERMS OF MEGAWATTS OR MEGAVOLTS,

2355
01:38:59,533 --> 01:39:00,801
AND HOW THOSE TRANSLATE TO EACH 

2356
01:39:00,801 --> 01:39:05,973
OTHER BASED ON SORT OF OUR 

2357
01:39:05,973 --> 01:39:09,043
RESEARCH, WE ENDED UP LANDING 

2358
01:39:09,043 --> 01:39:10,678
WITH THE MEGAVOLT DEFINITION. 

2359
01:39:10,678 --> 01:39:12,112
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE

2360
01:39:12,112 --> 01:39:12,913
PERMANENT DEFINITION. WE NEEDED 

2361
01:39:12,913 --> 01:39:14,782
TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING 

2362
01:39:14,782 --> 01:39:16,383
QUICKLY FOR THE MORATORIUM. BUT 

2363
01:39:16,383 --> 01:39:19,153
I DO ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL HAVE

2364
01:39:19,153 --> 01:39:21,755
DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS FOR THE 

2365
01:39:21,755 --> 01:39:23,324
PERMANENT LEGISLATION THAT WILL 

2366
01:39:23,324 --> 01:39:24,391
DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THESE 

2367
01:39:24,391 --> 01:39:25,793
MEGADATA CENTERS AND OTHER SORT 

2368
01:39:25,793 --> 01:39:27,294
OF SMALLER ONES, WHICH, YOU 

2369
01:39:27,294 --> 01:39:31,465
KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY HAS 

2370
01:39:31,465 --> 01:39:33,067
ITS OWN TECHNOLOGICAL NEEDS. OUR

2371
01:39:33,067 --> 01:39:36,837
911 CENTER HAS TECHNOLOGICAL 

2372
01:39:36,837 --> 01:39:40,641
NEEDS. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO 

2373
01:39:40,641 --> 01:39:43,711
ALLOW FOR THOSE TYPES OF 

2374
01:39:43,711 --> 01:39:44,778
COLLOCATED ESSENTIAL SERVICES 

2375
01:39:44,778 --> 01:39:46,747
TYPES OF TECHNOLOGY, AND DATA 

2376
01:39:46,747 --> 01:39:50,417
CENTERS WHILE ALSO PUTTING 

2377
01:39:50,417 --> 01:39:53,887
REASONABLE, AT LEAST IN MY 

2378
01:39:53,887 --> 01:39:54,588
OPINION, REASONABLE REGULATIONS 

2379
01:39:54,588 --> 01:39:56,790
AROUND THESE MUCH LARGER 

2380
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:59,793
MEGADATA CENTERS. SO THAT'S HOW

2381
01:39:59,793 --> 01:40:02,529
WE CAME UP WITH THAT DEFINITION 

2382
01:40:02,529 --> 01:40:04,898
SO FAR. CERTAINLY HAPPY TO GET 

2383
01:40:04,898 --> 01:40:05,699
INPUT FROM COLLEAGUES, FROM 

2384
01:40:05,699 --> 01:40:06,834
STAKEHOLDERS AND OTHERS, BUT 

2385
01:40:06,834 --> 01:40:07,868
THAT'S THE HISTORY OF THAT 

2386
01:40:07,868 --> 01:40:09,937
DEFINITION. 

2387
01:40:09,937 --> 01:40:12,840
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHAIR 

2388
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:13,507
LIN. THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO 

2389
01:40:13,507 --> 01:40:15,042
UNDERSTAND, AND I KNOW THIS IS 

2390
01:40:15,042 --> 01:40:17,511
NOW OUR SECOND DISCUSSION IN 

2391
01:40:17,511 --> 01:40:18,645
COMMITTEE ON THIS TOPIC, AND I 

2392
01:40:18,645 --> 01:40:21,482
IMAGINE A NUMBER OF THE 

2393
01:40:21,482 --> 01:40:22,182
QUESTIONS I RAISED DURING OUR 

2394
01:40:22,182 --> 01:40:23,417
FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING, WE 

2395
01:40:23,417 --> 01:40:24,752
STILL DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO. 

2396
01:40:24,752 --> 01:40:26,286
AND I ACCEPT THAT IN THIS 

2397
01:40:26,286 --> 01:40:28,622
MOMENT, BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING 

2398
01:40:28,622 --> 01:40:30,290
QUICKLY, SO I REALLY WANT TO 

2399
01:40:30,290 --> 01:40:33,961
COMMEND YOU FOR TAKING THIS 

2400
01:40:33,961 --> 01:40:35,129
APPROACH, OF FIRST INTRODUCING A

2401
01:40:35,129 --> 01:40:36,230
MORATORIUM THAT WILL ALLOW US TO

2402
01:40:36,230 --> 01:40:39,967
TAKE A PAUSE AND UNDERSTAND HOW 

2403
01:40:39,967 --> 01:40:44,204
TO LEGISLATE AND REGULATE AROUND

2404
01:40:44,204 --> 01:40:46,440
DATA CENTERS. I WANT TO COMMENT 

2405
01:40:46,440 --> 01:40:47,708
YOU, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS AS 

2406
01:40:47,708 --> 01:40:49,042
WELL AS COUNCILMEMBER 

2407
01:40:49,042 --> 01:40:50,544
HOLLINGSWORTH ON YOUR EFFORT. 

2408
01:40:50,544 --> 01:40:52,012
EAGER TO LEARN MORE AS WE 

2409
01:40:52,012 --> 01:40:52,880
CONTINUE THIS ENDEAVOR, AND 

2410
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,616
THANK YOU AGAIN, FOR YOUR WORK 

2411
01:40:55,616 --> 01:40:56,050
ON THIS. 

2412
01:40:56,050 --> 01:41:00,587
>> YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, 

2413
01:41:00,587 --> 01:41:01,655
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. SIMILAR TO 

2414
01:41:01,655 --> 01:41:02,322
YESTERDAY'S DISCUSSION AROUND 

2415
01:41:02,322 --> 01:41:03,857
INTERIM LEGISLATION, ASSUMING 

2416
01:41:03,857 --> 01:41:05,025
THIS DOES PASS, IT WILL BE 

2417
01:41:05,025 --> 01:41:07,728
INTERIM LEGISLATION THAT WILL 

2418
01:41:07,728 --> 01:41:10,064
NEED TO DEVELOP A WORK PLAN, 

2419
01:41:10,064 --> 01:41:13,300
WHICH WILL BE ABLE TO HONE IN ON

2420
01:41:13,300 --> 01:41:19,740
ALL OF THOSE FINE DETAILS. ANY 

2421
01:41:19,740 --> 01:41:20,574
OTHER, COUNCIL PRESIDENT 

2422
01:41:20,574 --> 01:41:20,941
HOLLINGSWORTH? 

2423
01:41:20,941 --> 01:41:22,843
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK 

2424
01:41:22,843 --> 01:41:25,846
YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS,

2425
01:41:25,846 --> 01:41:28,082
AND I KNOW THE LEGISLATION WILL 

2426
01:41:28,082 --> 01:41:30,717
BE HEARD IN THE PARKS AND CITY 

2427
01:41:30,717 --> 01:41:34,688
LIGHT COMMITTEE TODAY, WITH 

2428
01:41:34,688 --> 01:41:35,355
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. EXCUSE ME.

2429
01:41:35,355 --> 01:41:37,958
I'M SO VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. 

2430
01:41:37,958 --> 01:41:40,094
AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF BEEN A 

2431
01:41:40,094 --> 01:41:41,595
CONCERT OF THINGS HOW THINGS ARE

2432
01:41:41,595 --> 01:41:44,064
MOVING, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME

2433
01:41:44,064 --> 01:41:45,799
PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT, 

2434
01:41:45,799 --> 01:41:48,101
AND I ALSO KNOW THERE ARE SOME 

2435
01:41:48,101 --> 01:41:50,304
THINGS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING

2436
01:41:50,304 --> 01:41:51,605
OUT WITH THE MORATORIUM, AND AS 

2437
01:41:51,605 --> 01:41:52,606
YOU MENTIONED, IF IT PASSES, 

2438
01:41:52,606 --> 01:41:57,144
THIS IS FOR A YEAR TO DO A 

2439
01:41:57,144 --> 01:41:58,479
RESET. I THINK I SHARE YOUR 

2440
01:41:58,479 --> 01:41:59,980
UNDERSTANDING, AND YOUR VALUES, 

2441
01:41:59,980 --> 01:42:03,016
THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HINDER

2442
01:42:03,016 --> 01:42:04,251
GROWTH IN OUR CITY, BUT 

2443
01:42:04,251 --> 01:42:05,519
UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU KNOW, WE 

2444
01:42:05,519 --> 01:42:09,957
NEED TO DO SOME MORE ASSESSMENT,

2445
01:42:09,957 --> 01:42:13,360
AND SOME MORE WORK WITH SOME OF 

2446
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:14,361
THE DATA CENTER. AND ALL DATA 

2447
01:42:14,361 --> 01:42:18,165
CENTERS ARE NOT THE SAME. A LOT 

2448
01:42:18,165 --> 01:42:20,033
ARE DIFFERENT. AND I WAS JUST 

2449
01:42:20,033 --> 01:42:21,135
CURIOUS, ERIC, WITH YOUR BEST 

2450
01:42:21,135 --> 01:42:23,904
KNOWLEDGE FOR THE PUBLIC, COULD 

2451
01:42:23,904 --> 01:42:27,741
YOU GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF 

2452
01:42:27,741 --> 01:42:29,076
DETAIL POTENTIALLY OF SOME 

2453
01:42:29,076 --> 01:42:31,378
DIFFERENCE OF DATA CENTERS? IS 

2454
01:42:31,378 --> 01:42:31,778
THAT POSSIBLE? 

2455
01:42:31,778 --> 01:42:34,047
>> I WILL GO UNTIL -- I'LL GO 

2456
01:42:34,047 --> 01:42:36,850
RIGHT TO THE EDGE, AND NOT STEP 

2457
01:42:36,850 --> 01:42:40,053
BEYOND LIKE WHERE I GET -- 

2458
01:42:40,053 --> 01:42:41,822
>> LIKE HOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE 

2459
01:42:41,822 --> 01:42:43,524
DATA CENTERS, WHAT IS CURRENTLY 

2460
01:42:43,524 --> 01:42:49,096
IN SEATTLE, AND WHAT ARE THEY 

2461
01:42:49,096 --> 01:42:52,332
KICKING UP IN THEIR CLOUDS? 

2462
01:42:52,332 --> 01:42:55,569
>> SO ANY CITY LIKE SEATTLE 

2463
01:42:55,569 --> 01:42:56,937
WORKS WITH DATA CENTERS, WORKING

2464
01:42:56,937 --> 01:42:58,438
WITH THE CLOUD. THE CONNECTIONS 

2465
01:42:58,438 --> 01:42:59,973
IN AND OUT, THE POWER, THE 

2466
01:42:59,973 --> 01:43:01,175
PERSONNEL THAT DO THAT. AND 

2467
01:43:01,175 --> 01:43:02,643
THEY'RE USED FOR LOTS OF 

2468
01:43:02,643 --> 01:43:06,079
DIFFERENT THINGS, AS ALREADY HAS

2469
01:43:06,079 --> 01:43:07,514
BEEN MENTIONED IN THE NEWS AND 

2470
01:43:07,514 --> 01:43:09,449
IN THE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE 

2471
01:43:09,449 --> 01:43:12,686
COUNTRY, THERE ARE THESE SORT OF

2472
01:43:12,686 --> 01:43:14,855
MEGADATA CENTERS THAT ARE REALLY

2473
01:43:14,855 --> 01:43:15,522
CONNECTED TO A.I. TECHNOLOGIES, 

2474
01:43:15,522 --> 01:43:17,424
AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. AT THE 

2475
01:43:17,424 --> 01:43:22,229
SAME TIME, DAY IN AND DAY OUT 

2476
01:43:22,229 --> 01:43:27,000
THERE ARE DATA CENTERS THAT 

2477
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:28,769
SERVE MAYBE SORT OF MORE 

2478
01:43:28,769 --> 01:43:29,403
PROSAIC, ORDINARY THINGS LIKE 

2479
01:43:29,403 --> 01:43:30,470
RUNNING THE INTERNET AND THINGS 

2480
01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:32,472
LIKE THAT. THEY RANGE IN SIZE. 

2481
01:43:32,472 --> 01:43:33,974
THEY CAN BE CONNECTED. THEY 

2482
01:43:33,974 --> 01:43:36,109
COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ON A FLOOR, 

2483
01:43:36,109 --> 01:43:37,044
IN A BUILDING DOWNTOWN. THEY 

2484
01:43:37,044 --> 01:43:39,746
COULD BE ON A LARGE SORT OF 

2485
01:43:39,746 --> 01:43:42,049
FLOOR PLATE IN A WAREHOUSE 

2486
01:43:42,049 --> 01:43:43,951
LOOKING BUILDING IN EASTERN 

2487
01:43:43,951 --> 01:43:45,118
WASHINGTON. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY 

2488
01:43:45,118 --> 01:43:49,656
RANGE QUITE A BIT. IT'S SORT OF

2489
01:43:49,656 --> 01:43:52,259
LIKE IF SOMEONE SAYS HI SMALL 

2490
01:43:52,259 --> 01:43:54,094
NEIGHBOR, AND THEY'VE GOT A 

2491
01:43:54,094 --> 01:43:56,263
DOG. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE 

2492
01:43:56,263 --> 01:44:01,501
AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT DOG IS. 

2493
01:44:01,501 --> 01:44:03,604
THERE ARE REALLY DIFFERENT SIZES

2494
01:44:03,604 --> 01:44:04,671
AND DIFFERENT NEEDS. DATA 

2495
01:44:04,671 --> 01:44:05,372
CENTER, JUST BY SAYING SO 

2496
01:44:05,372 --> 01:44:07,007
DOESN'T REALLY TELL US WHAT IT 

2497
01:44:07,007 --> 01:44:08,642
IS. I THINK THAT COMES BACK 

2498
01:44:08,642 --> 01:44:09,943
AROUND TO WHAT YOU AND YOUR 

2499
01:44:09,943 --> 01:44:11,211
COLLEAGUES ARE SORT OF COPING 

2500
01:44:11,211 --> 01:44:13,614
WITH, AND ASKING US TO HELP 

2501
01:44:13,614 --> 01:44:17,351
DEFINE IN TERMS OF, FOR THE 

2502
01:44:17,351 --> 01:44:21,188
MORATORIUM. WHAT DO WE MEAN BY 

2503
01:44:21,188 --> 01:44:26,493
DATA CENTER, SO THAT'S A 

2504
01:44:26,493 --> 01:44:31,064
FUNCTIONAL WORD TO USE. 

2505
01:44:31,064 --> 01:44:32,766
COUNCILMEMBER LIN JUST 

2506
01:44:32,766 --> 01:44:34,101
ARTICULATED WHAT WILL THE -- 

2507
01:44:34,101 --> 01:44:35,902
HOPEFULLY I ANSWERED YOUR 

2508
01:44:35,902 --> 01:44:37,304
QUESTION, AND WAS ABLE TO 

2509
01:44:37,304 --> 01:44:38,472
UNDERSCORE THAT, YEAH, DATA 

2510
01:44:38,472 --> 01:44:41,274
CENTERS ARE ACTIVE, AND IN USE 

2511
01:44:41,274 --> 01:44:42,075
HERE IN SEATTLE. IT'S A 

2512
01:44:42,075 --> 01:44:43,677
BUSINESS THAT OPERATES IN 

2513
01:44:43,677 --> 01:44:45,512
SEATTLE. IT'S A SERVICE THAT 

2514
01:44:45,512 --> 01:44:48,715
THE CITY OF SEATTLE ALSO USES, 

2515
01:44:48,715 --> 01:44:52,519
AND NOT REVEALING ANY SECRETS 

2516
01:44:52,519 --> 01:44:53,153
THERE. THAT IS NOW -- I DON'T 

2517
01:44:53,153 --> 01:44:55,722
THINK THAT REALLY IS THE 

2518
01:44:55,722 --> 01:44:57,658
QUESTION OR THE PROBLEM THAT THE

2519
01:44:57,658 --> 01:44:58,692
COUNCILMEMBER IS ARTICULATING, 

2520
01:44:58,692 --> 01:44:59,993
PER SE, IT'S ABOUT SCALE, AND 

2521
01:44:59,993 --> 01:45:01,828
RESOURCES, AND JOBS AND THINGS 

2522
01:45:01,828 --> 01:45:03,864
LIKE THAT. SO HOPEFULLY, IS THAT

2523
01:45:03,864 --> 01:45:05,632
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YEAH? 

2524
01:45:05,632 --> 01:45:07,301
>> ABSOLUTELY. AND IF I MAY, 

2525
01:45:07,301 --> 01:45:09,803
CHAIR, ONE MORE, AND THIS IS WHY

2526
01:45:09,803 --> 01:45:12,506
I LOVE THE RESOLUTION AND I LOVE

2527
01:45:12,506 --> 01:45:14,141
THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THE 

2528
01:45:14,141 --> 01:45:16,209
MORATORIUM, BECAUSE WORKING IN 

2529
01:45:16,209 --> 01:45:19,146
CONCERT TOGETHER, IT ALSO HAS US

2530
01:45:19,146 --> 01:45:22,883
REQUESTING TO THE DEPARTMENTS TO

2531
01:45:22,883 --> 01:45:23,417
UNDERSTAND ENVIRONMENTAL 

2532
01:45:23,417 --> 01:45:25,552
IMPACTS. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC 

2533
01:45:25,552 --> 01:45:26,787
BENEFIT FROM THIS? WHAT TYPE OF 

2534
01:45:26,787 --> 01:45:31,558
-- CAN IT BE SOME HEATING AND 

2535
01:45:31,558 --> 01:45:32,626
COOLING THAT GOES ON? IS THERE 

2536
01:45:32,626 --> 01:45:33,894
SOME INFRASTRUCTURE EXPENSE THAT

2537
01:45:33,894 --> 01:45:36,196
CAN BE MADE AND UPDATED WITH 

2538
01:45:36,196 --> 01:45:41,435
SOME OF THE DATA CENTERS 

2539
01:45:41,435 --> 01:45:42,669
INVESTING BACK INTO THE 

2540
01:45:42,669 --> 01:45:44,671
COMMUNITY? LIKE THERE'S A LOT 

2541
01:45:44,671 --> 01:45:46,473
OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO 

2542
01:45:46,473 --> 01:45:48,809
EXPLORE, HOLISTICALLY, SO 

2543
01:45:48,809 --> 01:45:50,977
THAT'S WHY I PRETTY MUCH THE 

2544
01:45:50,977 --> 01:45:51,912
MORATORIUM THAT YOU'RE 

2545
01:45:51,912 --> 01:45:52,846
PROVIDING, AND ALSO 

2546
01:45:52,846 --> 01:45:53,947
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ WILL BE 

2547
01:45:53,947 --> 01:45:55,916
BRINGING TO THE COMMITTEE LATER 

2548
01:45:55,916 --> 01:45:57,918
ON TODAY. IT'S NOT A KNEE JERK 

2549
01:45:57,918 --> 01:46:00,120
REACTION. IT'S ALL IN CONCERT 

2550
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:01,321
WITH EACH OTHER. AND I JUST 

2551
01:46:01,321 --> 01:46:03,356
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST 

2552
01:46:03,356 --> 01:46:07,594
WANTED TO SAY ALL OF. THAT THANK

2553
01:46:07,594 --> 01:46:10,497
YOU, THANK YOU ERIC AND CHAIR AS

2554
01:46:10,497 --> 01:46:10,697
WELL. 

2555
01:46:10,697 --> 01:46:13,600
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR 

2556
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:14,701
PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS. IF 

2557
01:46:14,701 --> 01:46:16,837
THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR

2558
01:46:16,837 --> 01:46:18,105
COMMENTS, WE ARE GETTING PRETTY 

2559
01:46:18,105 --> 01:46:20,040
LATE HERE IN THE MORNING, SO WE 

2560
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,110
CAN COME BACK TO THIS IN OUR 

2561
01:46:23,110 --> 01:46:25,178
NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING. OKAY. 

2562
01:46:25,178 --> 01:46:27,547
SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR 

2563
01:46:27,547 --> 01:46:29,249
COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ONTO

2564
01:46:29,249 --> 01:46:32,185
OUR THIRD ITEM OF BUSINESS. WILL

2565
01:46:32,185 --> 01:46:36,690
THE CLERK PLEASE READ AGENDA 

2566
01:46:36,690 --> 01:46:37,023
ITEM THREE? 

2567
01:46:37,023 --> 01:46:39,192
>> AGENDA ITEM THREE, COUNCIL 

2568
01:46:39,192 --> 01:46:43,497
BILL 121215, AN ORDINANCE 

2569
01:46:43,497 --> 01:46:53,039
RELATING TO COUNSEL LAND USE 

2570
01:46:53,039 --> 01:46:58,345
DECISIONS, AMENDING SECTIONS 

2571
01:46:58,345 --> 01:46:59,146
23.76.050, 23. 23.76.062, AND 

2572
01:46:59,146 --> 01:46:59,446
25.05.680. 

2573
01:46:59,446 --> 01:47:03,283
>> THANK YOU, LIZ FOR JOINING 

2574
01:47:03,283 --> 01:47:04,985
US. CAN YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE 

2575
01:47:04,985 --> 01:47:06,052
YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD? 

2576
01:47:06,052 --> 01:47:07,854
>> LISH WHITSON, COUNCIL CENTRAL

2577
01:47:07,854 --> 01:47:08,088
STAFF. 

2578
01:47:08,088 --> 01:47:10,724
>> THANK YOU, LISH, AND THANK 

2579
01:47:10,724 --> 01:47:12,259
YOU COLLEAGUES AND TO MEMBERS OF

2580
01:47:12,259 --> 01:47:14,728
THE PUBLIC WHO COMMENTED TODAY 

2581
01:47:14,728 --> 01:47:16,062
ON THIS ISSUE. THIS IS JUST AN 

2582
01:47:16,062 --> 01:47:17,364
INITIAL BRIEFING, AS MENTIONED 

2583
01:47:17,364 --> 01:47:20,300
EARLIER, WE WILL BE HOLDING A 

2584
01:47:20,300 --> 01:47:21,835
PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSAL.

2585
01:47:21,835 --> 01:47:23,937
THIS IS JUST TO GET THOSE 

2586
01:47:23,937 --> 01:47:27,107
INITIAL THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS 

2587
01:47:27,107 --> 01:47:29,543
OUT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A ROBUST

2588
01:47:29,543 --> 01:47:30,610
COMMUNITY DIALOGUE ON THAT. 

2589
01:47:30,610 --> 01:47:31,211
UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW THAT 

2590
01:47:31,211 --> 01:47:33,013
THERE'S A QUESTION WHETHER WE 

2591
01:47:33,013 --> 01:47:36,349
WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION. WE DO 

2592
01:47:36,349 --> 01:47:39,052
NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY. 

2593
01:47:39,052 --> 01:47:40,587
BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE VERY 

2594
01:47:40,587 --> 01:47:42,456
QUALIFIED CENTRAL STAFF HERE TO 

2595
01:47:42,456 --> 01:47:44,691
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR TO JUST 

2596
01:47:44,691 --> 01:47:47,093
TALK US THROUGH THE PROPOSAL. SO

2597
01:47:47,093 --> 01:47:54,367
WITH THAT, I'LL LET YOU 

2598
01:47:54,367 --> 01:47:54,634
PROCEED. 

2599
01:47:54,634 --> 01:47:56,937
>> YEAH. SO COUNCILMEMBER 121215

2600
01:47:56,937 --> 01:48:01,074
AMENDS LAND USE CODE IN THE 

2601
01:48:01,074 --> 01:48:02,175
STATE SEPA REGULATIONS TO REMOVE

2602
01:48:02,175 --> 01:48:04,311
TWO IMPEDIMENTS OF LAND USE 

2603
01:48:04,311 --> 01:48:05,011
CHANGES. FIRST, IT BRINGS 

2604
01:48:05,011 --> 01:48:06,913
SEATTLE IN LINE WITH OTHER LARGE

2605
01:48:06,913 --> 01:48:08,448
JURISDICTIONS IN WASHINGTON 

2606
01:48:08,448 --> 01:48:10,217
STATE BY REMOVING APPEALS OF 

2607
01:48:10,217 --> 01:48:12,786
SEPA DETERMINATIONS TO THE 

2608
01:48:12,786 --> 01:48:14,654
SEATTLE HEARING EXAMINER. IT 

2609
01:48:14,654 --> 01:48:17,224
WOULD APPLY TO DEVELOPMENT 

2610
01:48:17,224 --> 01:48:18,091
REGULATIONS AND COMPREHENSIVE 

2611
01:48:18,091 --> 01:48:19,860
PLAN AMENDMENTS, AND DEVELOPMENT

2612
01:48:19,860 --> 01:48:21,194
REGULATIONS UNDER STATE LAW, 

2613
01:48:21,194 --> 01:48:22,829
MEANING THE CONTROLS PLACED ON 

2614
01:48:22,829 --> 01:48:24,931
DEVELOPMENT OR LAND USE 

2615
01:48:24,931 --> 01:48:31,204
ACTIVITIES BY A COUNTY OR CITY, 

2616
01:48:31,204 --> 01:48:32,272
INCLUDING ZONING ORDINANCES, 

2617
01:48:32,272 --> 01:48:36,276
ORDINANCES AND SHORELINE MASTER 

2618
01:48:36,276 --> 01:48:38,378
PROGRAMS. THIS SECTION OF THE 

2619
01:48:38,378 --> 01:48:39,179
BILL STILL MAINTAINS 

2620
01:48:39,179 --> 01:48:46,253
OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEMBERS OF THE

2621
01:48:46,253 --> 01:48:49,556
PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON SEPA 

2622
01:48:49,556 --> 01:48:51,024
DETERMINATIONS OFTEN DEPARTMENTS

2623
01:48:51,024 --> 01:48:52,325
ISSUING A DETERMINATION OF 

2624
01:48:52,325 --> 01:48:53,827
NON-SIGNIFICANT OR FINAL 

2625
01:48:53,827 --> 01:48:55,529
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT 

2626
01:48:55,529 --> 01:48:57,397
WILL PULL BACK THEIR DECISIONS 

2627
01:48:57,397 --> 01:48:59,499
BASED ON COMMENTS THEY RECEIVED 

2628
01:48:59,499 --> 01:49:01,635
DURING THAT EARLY COMMENT 

2629
01:49:01,635 --> 01:49:02,302
PERIOD. THAT COMMENT PERIOD 

2630
01:49:02,302 --> 01:49:03,770
STILL WILL REMAIN. MEMBERS OF 

2631
01:49:03,770 --> 01:49:06,573
THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO VOICE

2632
01:49:06,573 --> 01:49:11,611
ANY CONCERNS WITH ENVIRONMENTAL 

2633
01:49:11,611 --> 01:49:17,250
REVIEW TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IT 

2634
01:49:17,250 --> 01:49:19,653
DOES -- AND REMOVING THE HEARING

2635
01:49:19,653 --> 01:49:21,288
EXAMINER'S APPEAL PROCESS DOES 

2636
01:49:21,288 --> 01:49:23,323
NOT REMOVE ANY SEPA APPEALS 

2637
01:49:23,323 --> 01:49:25,692
PROCESSES. SO HEARING TO THE 

2638
01:49:25,692 --> 01:49:29,062
COURTS STILL REMAIN TO THE 

2639
01:49:29,062 --> 01:49:30,430
EXTENT PERMITTED UNDER STATE 

2640
01:49:30,430 --> 01:49:33,333
LAW. IN ADDITION, IF COUNCIL CAN

2641
01:49:33,333 --> 01:49:34,768
ALWAYS ASK FOR ADDITIONAL 

2642
01:49:34,768 --> 01:49:38,305
INFORMATION IF THEY HEAR 

2643
01:49:38,305 --> 01:49:40,407
CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS ABOUT 

2644
01:49:40,407 --> 01:49:42,142
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, THAT THEY 

2645
01:49:42,142 --> 01:49:43,543
DEEM ARE APPROPRIATE. THE SECOND

2646
01:49:43,543 --> 01:49:45,912
ACT OF THE BILL IS TO REMOVE A 

2647
01:49:45,912 --> 01:49:48,181
REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A 

2648
01:49:48,181 --> 01:49:50,183
DIRECTOR'S REPORT FOR TYPE 5 

2649
01:49:50,183 --> 01:49:51,751
LAND USE ACTION SPONSORED BY USE

2650
01:49:51,751 --> 01:49:53,853
OF THE COUNCIL. IT DOES PROVIDE 

2651
01:49:53,853 --> 01:49:54,788
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 

2652
01:49:54,788 --> 01:49:57,524
COUNCILMEMBERS TO REQUEST A 

2653
01:49:57,524 --> 01:49:58,692
REPORT IF ONE ISN'T PROVIDED. 

2654
01:49:58,692 --> 01:50:01,394
AND IT BRINGS US BACK IN LINE 

2655
01:50:01,394 --> 01:50:02,395
WITH THE COUNCIL'S PRACTICE 

2656
01:50:02,395 --> 01:50:06,499
PRIOR TO AN ADVERSE RULING BY 

2657
01:50:06,499 --> 01:50:08,568
THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT HEARINGS 

2658
01:50:08,568 --> 01:50:12,138
BOARD LAST YEAR. JUST AS A 

2659
01:50:12,138 --> 01:50:13,807
REMAINDER, TYPE 5 LAND USE 

2660
01:50:13,807 --> 01:50:16,643
DECISIONS ARE DECISIONS THAT ARE

2661
01:50:16,643 --> 01:50:20,113
LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS BY THE CITY 

2662
01:50:20,113 --> 01:50:26,553
COUNCIL LIKE THE TWO OTHER BILLS

2663
01:50:26,553 --> 01:50:27,887
YOU'RE SEEING TODAY, AREA-WIDE 

2664
01:50:27,887 --> 01:50:29,923
REZONES, ZONING AND A FEW OTHER 

2665
01:50:29,923 --> 01:50:31,558
LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS THAT THE 

2666
01:50:31,558 --> 01:50:35,395
COUNCIL TAKES. NEITHER OF THESE 

2667
01:50:35,395 --> 01:50:36,563
SECTIONS OF THE BILL WILL TOUCH 

2668
01:50:36,563 --> 01:50:39,833
A QUASI JUDICIAL ACTIONS WHICH 

2669
01:50:39,833 --> 01:50:44,304
STILL GO CAN THROUGH THE SEATTLE

2670
01:50:44,304 --> 01:50:47,474
HEARING EXAMINER AND THE HEARING

2671
01:50:47,474 --> 01:50:48,842
EXAMINER HOLDS A PUBLIC HEARING 

2672
01:50:48,842 --> 01:50:50,243
ON THE QUASI JUDICIAL ACTIONS 

2673
01:50:50,243 --> 01:50:55,615
AND THAT PROCESS WILL STILL 

2674
01:50:55,615 --> 01:50:55,882
CONTINUE. 

2675
01:50:55,882 --> 01:50:56,549
>> YEAH. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. 

2676
01:50:56,549 --> 01:51:03,256
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER 

2677
01:51:03,256 --> 01:51:03,490
RINCK. 

2678
01:51:03,490 --> 01:51:04,357
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. A FEW 

2679
01:51:04,357 --> 01:51:06,493
QUESTIONS FOR TODAY AS WE'RE 

2680
01:51:06,493 --> 01:51:11,131
JUST STARTING TO UNPACK THIS 

2681
01:51:11,131 --> 01:51:11,798
TOPIC. LISH CAN YOU EXPLAIN 

2682
01:51:11,798 --> 01:51:13,299
BROADLY WHAT SEPA-RELATED RULES 

2683
01:51:13,299 --> 01:51:17,203
ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE, AND 

2684
01:51:17,203 --> 01:51:18,204
WHAT RULES THE CITY HAS 

2685
01:51:18,204 --> 01:51:18,671
VOLUNTARILY EXPANDED? 

2686
01:51:18,671 --> 01:51:21,775
>> SO THERE'S A LOT THERE. I'LL

2687
01:51:21,775 --> 01:51:25,645
JUST FOCUS ON THE SUBJECT OF 

2688
01:51:25,645 --> 01:51:27,414
THIS BILL WHICH IS THAT THE 

2689
01:51:27,414 --> 01:51:31,885
STATE PROVIDES FOR THE CITY TO 

2690
01:51:31,885 --> 01:51:37,524
USE A HEARING EXAMINER TO 

2691
01:51:37,524 --> 01:51:40,460
CONSIDER APPEALS OF SEPA, FINAL 

2692
01:51:40,460 --> 01:51:41,861
SEPA DETERMINATION. SO THE FINAL

2693
01:51:41,861 --> 01:51:43,663
DETERMINATION THAT THERE ARE NO 

2694
01:51:43,663 --> 01:51:46,132
ADVERSE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS OF A

2695
01:51:46,132 --> 01:51:48,234
DECISION OR THE PUBLICATION OF A

2696
01:51:48,234 --> 01:51:49,102
FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT 

2697
01:51:49,102 --> 01:51:52,605
STATEMENT. BUT IT DOES NOT 

2698
01:51:52,605 --> 01:51:54,541
REQUIRE THE CITY TO HAVE THOSE 

2699
01:51:54,541 --> 01:51:56,843
APPEALS AND MANY OF THE LARGE 

2700
01:51:56,843 --> 01:52:01,247
JURISDICTIONS AROUND US DO NOT 

2701
01:52:01,247 --> 01:52:02,015
HAVE HEARING EXAMINER APPEALS. 

2702
01:52:02,015 --> 01:52:02,849
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? 

2703
01:52:02,849 --> 01:52:04,484
>> YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M

2704
01:52:04,484 --> 01:52:06,486
TRYING TO HAVE A MORE HOLISTIC 

2705
01:52:06,486 --> 01:52:07,687
VIEW OF OTHER AMENDMENTS RELATED

2706
01:52:07,687 --> 01:52:10,390
TO SEPA, WHERE THERE'S A STATE 

2707
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:11,624
REQUIREMENT, AND IF THERE'S 

2708
01:52:11,624 --> 01:52:13,827
ANYTHING IN ADDITION, EVEN IF 

2709
01:52:13,827 --> 01:52:15,161
IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PRACTICAL 

2710
01:52:15,161 --> 01:52:18,364
MATTER, ANY ADDITION THAT THE 

2711
01:52:18,364 --> 01:52:20,567
CITY VOLUNTARILY CHOOSES TO 

2712
01:52:20,567 --> 01:52:20,867
EXPAND ON. 

2713
01:52:20,867 --> 01:52:24,204
>> SO IT'S DEFINITELY AN AREA 

2714
01:52:24,204 --> 01:52:28,475
WHERE THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS 

2715
01:52:28,475 --> 01:52:29,943
BEEN MOVING QUICKLY TO AMEND 

2716
01:52:29,943 --> 01:52:31,711
STATE REGULATIONS AND WE 

2717
01:52:31,711 --> 01:52:33,847
HAVEN'T QUITE KEPT UP WITH IT, 

2718
01:52:33,847 --> 01:52:35,415
SO THERE -- AND DON'T HAVE ANY 

2719
01:52:35,415 --> 01:52:39,319
EXAMPLES RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY

2720
01:52:39,319 --> 01:52:45,158
HEAD, BUT THERE ARE TYPES OF 

2721
01:52:45,158 --> 01:52:47,127
CITY DECISIONS THAT PREVIOUSLY 

2722
01:52:47,127 --> 01:52:49,829
WHERE UNDER STATE LAW REQUIRED 

2723
01:52:49,829 --> 01:52:52,031
BOTH TO GO UNDER SEPA REVIEW. 

2724
01:52:52,031 --> 01:52:54,667
BUT THE CITY HAS SINCE EXEMPTED 

2725
01:52:54,667 --> 01:52:57,704
THEM FROM A SEPA REVIEW. 

2726
01:52:57,704 --> 01:52:59,739
HOWEVER, OUR CITY LAW STILL 

2727
01:52:59,739 --> 01:53:01,207
REQUIRES SEPA REVIEW. AND SO IN 

2728
01:53:01,207 --> 01:53:03,176
THE CITY OF SEATTLE, EVEN THOUGH

2729
01:53:03,176 --> 01:53:05,912
THERE IS A STATE EXEMPTION, WE 

2730
01:53:05,912 --> 01:53:09,482
STILL NEED TO REVIEW PROJECTS 

2731
01:53:09,482 --> 01:53:12,218
UNTIL WE UPDATE THOSE 

2732
01:53:12,218 --> 01:53:12,552
REGULATIONS. 

2733
01:53:12,552 --> 01:53:13,386
>> INTERESTING. OKAY. THANK YOU 

2734
01:53:13,386 --> 01:53:15,121
FOR THAT. CAN YOU ALSO ELABORATE

2735
01:53:15,121 --> 01:53:17,056
ON WHAT POINTS IN WHICH REPEAL 

2736
01:53:17,056 --> 01:53:18,625
OR LEGAL ACTION CAN BE BROUGHT 

2737
01:53:18,625 --> 01:53:20,994
FOR THESE TYPES OF LAND USE 

2738
01:53:20,994 --> 01:53:22,061
DECISIONS? MIGHT HAVE COVERED 

2739
01:53:22,061 --> 01:53:24,497
THAT, BUT IF YOU CAN JUST LAY 

2740
01:53:24,497 --> 01:53:27,267
THAT OUT AGAIN, THAT WILL BE 

2741
01:53:27,267 --> 01:53:27,534
HELPFUL. 

2742
01:53:27,534 --> 01:53:30,870
>> SO IN TERMS OF THE -- WE ARE 

2743
01:53:30,870 --> 01:53:32,505
RELYING ON THE STATE DEFINITION 

2744
01:53:32,505 --> 01:53:35,308
OF DEVELOPMENT REGULATION, AND 

2745
01:53:35,308 --> 01:53:43,082
ALSO IT WOULD APPLY TO A 

2746
01:53:43,082 --> 01:53:43,716
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. DEVELOPMENT 

2747
01:53:43,716 --> 01:53:44,651
REGULATIONS ARE CONTROLS PLACED 

2748
01:53:44,651 --> 01:53:50,190
ON LAND USE BY A COUNTY OR CITY.

2749
01:53:50,190 --> 01:53:58,231
THE ONES THE COUNCIL SEES ARE 

2750
01:53:58,231 --> 01:54:00,967
REZONES, ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS,

2751
01:54:00,967 --> 01:54:03,636
DESIGNATIONS OF MAJOR 

2752
01:54:03,636 --> 01:54:07,941
INSTITUTIONS, AND MAJOR 

2753
01:54:07,941 --> 01:54:09,442
INSTITUTION MASTER PLANS. I 

2754
01:54:09,442 --> 01:54:13,880
THINK I SAID AREA-WIDE REZONES. 

2755
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:14,681
PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT RECEIVE 

2756
01:54:14,681 --> 01:54:17,684
AN EXEMPTION FROM DEVELOPMENT 

2757
01:54:17,684 --> 01:54:19,819
STANDARDS THAT ARE OTHERWISE 

2758
01:54:19,819 --> 01:54:22,155
PERMITTED. THOSE ARE THE TYPES 

2759
01:54:22,155 --> 01:54:24,157
OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED

2760
01:54:24,157 --> 01:54:24,691
BY THESE REGULATIONS. 

2761
01:54:24,691 --> 01:54:27,393
>> I KNOW WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF

2762
01:54:27,393 --> 01:54:30,263
DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS IN COUNCIL

2763
01:54:30,263 --> 01:54:31,331
BRIEFING. I BELIEVE 

2764
01:54:31,331 --> 01:54:33,366
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ BROUGHT UP 

2765
01:54:33,366 --> 01:54:35,468
SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DELAYS THAT

2766
01:54:35,468 --> 01:54:38,805
CAN COME UP, AND WHAT MAKES -- 

2767
01:54:38,805 --> 01:54:41,107
WHAT CAN ADD TIME. HOW MUCH OF A

2768
01:54:41,107 --> 01:54:43,409
DELAY ARE WE CURRENTLY FACING ON

2769
01:54:43,409 --> 01:54:44,944
AVERAGE, OR HAVE THOSE DELAYS 

2770
01:54:44,944 --> 01:54:48,948
INCREASED IN RECENT YEARS WITH 

2771
01:54:48,948 --> 01:54:49,849
MORE APPEALS GOING TO THE 

2772
01:54:49,849 --> 01:54:50,416
HEARING EXAMINER? 

2773
01:54:50,416 --> 01:54:53,052
>> YEAH, SO I LOOKED BACK AT THE

2774
01:54:53,052 --> 01:54:56,356
LAST TEN YEARS OF APPEALS TO THE

2775
01:54:56,356 --> 01:55:01,995
HEARING EXAMINER, THERE ARE 

2776
01:55:01,995 --> 01:55:05,331
ABOUT 25 APPEALS. MANY OF THEM, 

2777
01:55:05,331 --> 01:55:10,904
MULTIPLE APELLENTS, SO I THINK 

2778
01:55:10,904 --> 01:55:16,075
THERE WERE 64 APELLENTS TOTAL 

2779
01:55:16,075 --> 01:55:23,283
FOR THOSE 25 APPEALS. SO FOR THE

2780
01:55:23,283 --> 01:55:24,550
MOST FREQUENT APPEAL ON THE 

2781
01:55:24,550 --> 01:55:29,489
DECISION IS TO DISMISS THEM, AND

2782
01:55:29,489 --> 01:55:34,394
THAT TAKES BETWEEN A MONTH AND 

2783
01:55:34,394 --> 01:55:37,964
THREE TO FOUR MONTHS TO SORT OF 

2784
01:55:37,964 --> 01:55:43,036
CONSIDER THAT JUST OUTRIGHT 

2785
01:55:43,036 --> 01:55:51,344
DISMISSAL THAT THERE IS A 

2786
01:55:51,344 --> 01:55:53,713
LEGITIMATE APPEAL. THERE ARE A 

2787
01:55:53,713 --> 01:55:55,081
NUMBER WHERE THE DETERMINATION 

2788
01:55:55,081 --> 01:55:56,349
IS AFFIRMED. SO THE HEARING 

2789
01:55:56,349 --> 01:55:58,518
EXAMINER GOES THROUGH A HEARING 

2790
01:55:58,518 --> 01:56:01,321
PROCESS AND DETERMINES THAT, 

2791
01:56:01,321 --> 01:56:05,458
YES, THE DECISION WAS MADE 

2792
01:56:05,458 --> 01:56:07,527
CORRECTLY. ON AVERAGE THAT TAKES

2793
01:56:07,527 --> 01:56:11,831
285 DAYS. SO I THINK THAT'S 

2794
01:56:11,831 --> 01:56:16,936
LIKE SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS. THERE 

2795
01:56:16,936 --> 01:56:22,809
HAVE ONLY BEEN TWO WHERE THE 

2796
01:56:22,809 --> 01:56:27,880
CITY DEPARTMENT'S DECISION WAS 

2797
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:28,781
ACTUALLY REMANDED OR REVERSED. 

2798
01:56:28,781 --> 01:56:31,918
ONE RELATED TO ACCESSORY 

2799
01:56:31,918 --> 01:56:33,486
DWELLING UNITS, WHERE THE 

2800
01:56:33,486 --> 01:56:36,122
HEARING EXAMINER DETERMINED THAT

2801
01:56:36,122 --> 01:56:37,190
DETERMINATION OF NONSIGNIFICANCE

2802
01:56:37,190 --> 01:56:37,957
WAS NOT APPROPRIATE, AND THE 

2803
01:56:37,957 --> 01:56:40,360
FINAL, THAT THE EIS SHOULD BE 

2804
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:44,464
DRAFTED. THAT TOOK SIX MONTHS TO

2805
01:56:44,464 --> 01:56:49,502
GET TO THAT DECISION. AND THE 

2806
01:56:49,502 --> 01:56:51,037
OTHER RELATED TO IMPACT FEES 

2807
01:56:51,037 --> 01:56:54,707
WHERE SORT OF THAT WAS THE CITY 

2808
01:56:54,707 --> 01:56:55,942
COUNCIL SPONSORED LEGISLATION. 

2809
01:56:55,942 --> 01:57:01,547
THAT TOOK, I THINK 15 MONTHS TO 

2810
01:57:01,547 --> 01:57:08,354
GET TO A DECISION THAT REVERSED 

2811
01:57:08,354 --> 01:57:12,225
THE ORIGINAL ENVIRONMENTAL 

2812
01:57:12,225 --> 01:57:15,294
DETERMINATION. SOME OF THE 

2813
01:57:15,294 --> 01:57:16,796
BIGGEST PROJECTS, THE MHA 

2814
01:57:16,796 --> 01:57:19,232
LEGISLATION ULTIMATELY MOST OF 

2815
01:57:19,232 --> 01:57:20,299
THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WAS 

2816
01:57:20,299 --> 01:57:22,168
AFFIRMED BY THE HEARING 

2817
01:57:22,168 --> 01:57:26,372
EXAMINER, THAT TOOK OVER A YEAR,

2818
01:57:26,372 --> 01:57:30,109
THAT HEARING PROCESS, AND THERE 

2819
01:57:30,109 --> 01:57:33,346
WAS A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE 

2820
01:57:33,346 --> 01:57:35,214
PROCESS THAT TOOK ABOUT A YEAR. 

2821
01:57:35,214 --> 01:57:36,349
YEAH. 

2822
01:57:36,349 --> 01:57:38,418
>> THANK YOU FOR WALKING US 

2823
01:57:38,418 --> 01:57:39,485
THROUGH AS WE CONSIDER THIS, 

2824
01:57:39,485 --> 01:57:43,089
WE'D LOVE TO JUST SEE MORE OF 

2825
01:57:43,089 --> 01:57:46,325
THAT INFORMATION TO JUMP AROUND 

2826
01:57:46,325 --> 01:57:47,026
TIMELINES ASSOCIATED WITH 

2827
01:57:47,026 --> 01:57:48,694
APPEALS AND MY FINAL QUESTION 

2828
01:57:48,694 --> 01:57:51,998
FOR TODAY, CHAIR, IF I MAY, JUST

2829
01:57:51,998 --> 01:57:56,102
TO REITERATE THIS POINT AGAIN, 

2830
01:57:56,102 --> 01:57:59,272
HOW MANY OTHER -- AND WHICH 

2831
01:57:59,272 --> 01:58:02,408
JURISDICTIONS WOULD, I SHOULD 

2832
01:58:02,408 --> 01:58:04,143
REPHRASE MY QUESTION. WITH THIS 

2833
01:58:04,143 --> 01:58:05,378
PROPOSED CHANGE, THIS WOULD 

2834
01:58:05,378 --> 01:58:08,081
BRING US INTO ALIGNMENT, OR ON 

2835
01:58:08,081 --> 01:58:09,015
PAR WITH WHICH JURISDICTIONS? 

2836
01:58:09,015 --> 01:58:10,316
AGAIN, BRING US INTO ALIGNMENT 

2837
01:58:10,316 --> 01:58:12,919
WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING BEYOND 

2838
01:58:12,919 --> 01:58:13,986
WHAT STATE LAW IS REQUIRED. 

2839
01:58:13,986 --> 01:58:19,192
>> OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, KING 

2840
01:58:19,192 --> 01:58:24,664
COUNTY, BELLEVUE, EVERETT, 

2841
01:58:24,664 --> 01:58:24,897
TACOMA. 

2842
01:58:24,897 --> 01:58:28,668
>> UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. THANK 

2843
01:58:28,668 --> 01:58:28,968
YOU, CHAIR. 

2844
01:58:28,968 --> 01:58:29,869
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2845
01:58:29,869 --> 01:58:30,470
RINCK, CHAIR FOSTER. 

2846
01:58:30,470 --> 01:58:31,070
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 

2847
01:58:31,070 --> 01:58:32,004
BRINGING THIS FORWARD, AND I 

2848
01:58:32,004 --> 01:58:33,272
WANTED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. 

2849
01:58:33,272 --> 01:58:34,440
I WANTED TO ASK YOU, LISH, IF 

2850
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:36,209
YOU COULD SPEAK, A LITTLE BIT 

2851
01:58:36,209 --> 01:58:38,478
MORE TO THE TYPES OF LAND USE 

2852
01:58:38,478 --> 01:58:42,114
ACTIONS THAT WE'RE THINKING 

2853
01:58:42,114 --> 01:58:43,783
ABOUT, BECAUSE THERE'S A 

2854
01:58:43,783 --> 01:58:46,185
SPECIFIC FOCUS HERE ON COUNCIL 

2855
01:58:46,185 --> 01:58:47,420
GENERATED AND TOP 5. CAN YOU 

2856
01:58:47,420 --> 01:58:50,957
JUST SORT OF SPEAK TO THAT, SO 

2857
01:58:50,957 --> 01:58:53,392
THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THE SCOPE? 

2858
01:58:53,392 --> 01:58:56,262
>> YEAH, SO THAT IS IN 

2859
01:58:56,262 --> 01:58:58,931
PARTICULAR FOR THE DIRECTOR'S 

2860
01:58:58,931 --> 01:59:05,938
REPORTS, AND THE REQUIREMENT FOR

2861
01:59:05,938 --> 01:59:07,440
DIRECTOR'S REPORT. THE THREE 

2862
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:08,941
TYPE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DECISIONS 

2863
01:59:08,941 --> 01:59:12,645
THE COUNCIL MOST FREQUENTLY SEES

2864
01:59:12,645 --> 01:59:14,981
ARE LAND USE CODE TEXT 

2865
01:59:14,981 --> 01:59:15,681
REQUIREMENTS, AREA WIDE USE. 

2866
01:59:15,681 --> 01:59:17,583
AMENDMENTS TO NOT JUST ONE PIECE

2867
01:59:17,583 --> 01:59:23,256
OF PROPERTY, WHICH IS A TYPE 

2868
01:59:23,256 --> 01:59:26,125
FOUR DECISION, BUT AMENDMENTS TO

2869
01:59:26,125 --> 01:59:28,027
A BROADER AREA. AND WAIVERS, OR 

2870
01:59:28,027 --> 01:59:30,930
MODIFICATIONS OF DEVELOPMENT 

2871
01:59:30,930 --> 01:59:34,433
STANDARDS FOR CITY FACILITIES. 

2872
01:59:34,433 --> 01:59:36,135
REALISTICALLY, GENERALLY, THE 

2873
01:59:36,135 --> 01:59:38,070
COUNCIL ITSELF WILL BE PROPOSING

2874
01:59:38,070 --> 01:59:42,074
LAND USE CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS. I

2875
01:59:42,074 --> 01:59:43,843
HAVEN'T SEEN MANY, OR ANY 

2876
01:59:43,843 --> 01:59:45,011
REZONES, OR MODIFICATIONS TO 

2877
01:59:45,011 --> 01:59:49,982
CITY FACILITIES PROPOSED BY THE 

2878
01:59:49,982 --> 01:59:52,118
COUNCIL, RATHER THAN THE 

2879
01:59:52,118 --> 01:59:53,519
EXECUTIVE. OTHER TYPES OF TYPE 

2880
01:59:53,519 --> 01:59:57,290
FIVE DECISIONS THAT ARE 

2881
01:59:57,290 --> 02:00:01,694
CORRECTIONS OF ERRORS ON THE 

2882
02:00:01,694 --> 02:00:05,031
ZONING MAP. CONSENT APPROVALS 

2883
02:00:05,031 --> 02:00:06,933
FOR EXPANSION OF CITY 

2884
02:00:06,933 --> 02:00:08,334
FACILITIES. MAJOR INSTITUTION 

2885
02:00:08,334 --> 02:00:10,970
DESTINATIONS, WHERE THE COUNCIL 

2886
02:00:10,970 --> 02:00:12,939
SAYS YES, THIS HOSPITAL, OR 

2887
02:00:12,939 --> 02:00:17,276
UNIVERSITY, OR COLLEGES OR MAJOR

2888
02:00:17,276 --> 02:00:18,578
INSTITUTION. ADOPTION OF PLANNED

2889
02:00:18,578 --> 02:00:25,818
ACTION ORDINANCES WHICH ARE SORT

2890
02:00:25,818 --> 02:00:28,087
OF CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT. SO 

2891
02:00:28,087 --> 02:00:28,821
MULTI-PHASED DEVELOPMENT. DOES 

2892
02:00:28,821 --> 02:00:32,959
NOT INCLUDE QUASIY JUDICIAL 

2893
02:00:32,959 --> 02:00:34,293
DECISIONS. SO NO ADOPTIONS OF 

2894
02:00:34,293 --> 02:00:35,428
MAJOR INSTITUTION MASTER PLANS 

2895
02:00:35,428 --> 02:00:36,429
OR PUBLIC FACILITIES NEEDING 

2896
02:00:36,429 --> 02:00:38,197
COUNCIL APPROVAL THAT ARE NOT 

2897
02:00:38,197 --> 02:00:40,099
CITY OWNED. 

2898
02:00:40,099 --> 02:00:41,734
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I 

2899
02:00:41,734 --> 02:00:42,501
APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. I 

2900
02:00:42,501 --> 02:00:44,904
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD 

2901
02:00:44,904 --> 02:00:45,938
THAT INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU,

2902
02:00:45,938 --> 02:00:50,876
CHAIR. 

2903
02:00:50,876 --> 02:00:55,781
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 

2904
02:00:55,781 --> 02:00:56,349
FOSTER. COUNCILMEMBER, VICE 

2905
02:00:56,349 --> 02:00:56,716
CHAIR STRAUSS. 

2906
02:00:56,716 --> 02:00:58,251
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND THANK 

2907
02:00:58,251 --> 02:01:01,053
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO

2908
02:01:01,053 --> 02:01:03,322
COMMITTEE TODAY. I GUESS I WAS 

2909
02:01:03,322 --> 02:01:05,992
EXPECTING A PRESENTATION OR A 

2910
02:01:05,992 --> 02:01:07,593
BILL DRAFT. WHILE I REALLY DO 

2911
02:01:07,593 --> 02:01:08,761
APPRECIATE LISH'S MEMO HERE, 

2912
02:01:08,761 --> 02:01:10,262
HAVING A PRESENTATION WALKING 

2913
02:01:10,262 --> 02:01:12,932
THROUGH THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF

2914
02:01:12,932 --> 02:01:15,501
THIS HELPS ME, IN MY OUTREACH TO

2915
02:01:15,501 --> 02:01:17,770
RES DENTS AND TO STAKEHOLDERS. 

2916
02:01:17,770 --> 02:01:20,906
SO I DO JUST WANT TO CHECK IN ON

2917
02:01:20,906 --> 02:01:21,540
PROCESS HERE. IS TODAY'S 

2918
02:01:21,540 --> 02:01:24,076
MEETING CONSIDER THE ONE OF THE 

2919
02:01:24,076 --> 02:01:25,611
TWO MEETINGS BEFORE TAKING A 

2920
02:01:25,611 --> 02:01:28,547
VOTE? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A 

2921
02:01:28,547 --> 02:01:30,416
COUPLE MORE MEETINGS BEFORE WE 

2922
02:01:30,416 --> 02:01:32,585
-- AND RECEIVE THE WRITTEN BILL?

2923
02:01:32,585 --> 02:01:35,154
HOW ARE WE MOVING FORWARD ON 

2924
02:01:35,154 --> 02:01:35,354
THIS? 

2925
02:01:35,354 --> 02:01:41,427
>> THE NEXT STEP WAS TO HAVE A 

2926
02:01:41,427 --> 02:01:47,066
PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 1st. HOLD

2927
02:01:47,066 --> 02:01:51,671
ON. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MY 

2928
02:01:51,671 --> 02:01:56,575
ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE, THADDEUS. 

2929
02:01:56,575 --> 02:01:57,510
JUNE3rd, JUNE 17th. OKAY. 

2930
02:01:57,510 --> 02:01:58,744
JUNE3rd, JUNE 17th, AND THEN A 

2931
02:01:58,744 --> 02:02:01,847
PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 1st ARE 

2932
02:02:01,847 --> 02:02:05,384
THE NEXT STEPS. 

2933
02:02:05,384 --> 02:02:06,585
>> OKAY, GREAT. AND SOMETHING 

2934
02:02:06,585 --> 02:02:07,820
THAT I'VE SHARED IN THE PAST, 

2935
02:02:07,820 --> 02:02:09,655
AND MIGHT BE, I GUESS WE NEED TO

2936
02:02:09,655 --> 02:02:12,058
GO A LITTLE FASTER NOW, BECAUSE 

2937
02:02:12,058 --> 02:02:12,858
WE'VE STARTED DEVELOPING THE 

2938
02:02:12,858 --> 02:02:15,161
CONCEPT FOR TRIBAL NOTIFICATION 

2939
02:02:15,161 --> 02:02:18,998
IN THE SAME WAY THAT SEPA 

2940
02:02:18,998 --> 02:02:19,732
PROVIDES FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED 

2941
02:02:19,732 --> 02:02:21,600
TRIBES NOTIFICATION OF WORK TO 

2942
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:25,337
BE DONE IN THE SOIL, WHICH HAS 

2943
02:02:25,337 --> 02:02:28,174
BEEN THEIR HOME SINCE TIME OF 

2944
02:02:28,174 --> 02:02:28,841
MEMORIAL. THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT

2945
02:02:28,841 --> 02:02:30,176
WE'VE NEEDED TO FIX FOR QUITE 

2946
02:02:30,176 --> 02:02:31,911
SOME TIME, AND IF WE'RE GOING 

2947
02:02:31,911 --> 02:02:33,612
TO BE CHANGING OUR SEPA REVIEW 

2948
02:02:33,612 --> 02:02:35,881
HERE AT THE CITY, I THINK WE 

2949
02:02:35,881 --> 02:02:39,652
NEED TO DO THE SAME, BOTH AT THE

2950
02:02:39,652 --> 02:02:43,723
SAME TIME. I UNDERSTAND THAT MY 

2951
02:02:43,723 --> 02:02:45,624
CONCEPT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT 

2952
02:02:45,624 --> 02:02:46,759
FARTHER BEHIND YOURS, BUT IT 

2953
02:02:46,759 --> 02:02:48,961
SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO GET THAT 

2954
02:02:48,961 --> 02:02:51,363
STARTED NOW, BECAUSE IT'S 

2955
02:02:51,363 --> 02:02:58,537
IMPORTANT FOR ME THAT WE PROVIDE

2956
02:02:58,537 --> 02:02:59,605
THAT TRIBAL NOTIFICATION. BUT 

2957
02:02:59,605 --> 02:03:02,041
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING FORWARD 

2958
02:03:02,041 --> 02:03:02,942
THE SUMMARY, AND FISCAL NOTE 

2959
02:03:02,942 --> 02:03:04,543
TODAY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO 

2960
02:03:04,543 --> 02:03:07,413
RECEIVING THE BILL AND THE 

2961
02:03:07,413 --> 02:03:08,013
POWERPOINT. THANK YOU, SIR. 

2962
02:03:08,013 --> 02:03:10,916
>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR, 

2963
02:03:10,916 --> 02:03:12,685
STRAUSS. AND YOU MAY RECALL WE 

2964
02:03:12,685 --> 02:03:16,288
WORKED ON TRIBAL NOTIFICATION AS

2965
02:03:16,288 --> 02:03:19,258
PART OF THE SEPA THRESHOLD 

2966
02:03:19,258 --> 02:03:24,330
EXEMPTION BILL AND I SEE CENTRAL

2967
02:03:24,330 --> 02:03:27,466
STAFF LISH RAISED A FINGER. 

2968
02:03:27,466 --> 02:03:33,439
>> YEAH, SO, TRIBAL NOTIFICATION

2969
02:03:33,439 --> 02:03:35,741
IS REQUIRED TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE

2970
02:03:35,741 --> 02:03:36,408
SEPA DETERMINATION IS PUBLISHED.

2971
02:03:36,408 --> 02:03:37,610
THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THAT. I DO 

2972
02:03:37,610 --> 02:03:40,379
WANT TO NOTE THAT THE 

2973
02:03:40,379 --> 02:03:45,785
LEGISLATION HAS BEEN INTRODUCED,

2974
02:03:45,785 --> 02:03:48,220
AND IS LINKED TO THE AGENDA. 

2975
02:03:48,220 --> 02:03:50,189
>> THANK YOU, BUT ABSOLUTELY 

2976
02:03:50,189 --> 02:03:51,690
HEAR YOU ON A PRESENTATION, AND 

2977
02:03:51,690 --> 02:03:56,829
WE'LL WORK ON THAT FOR THE NEXT

2978
02:03:56,829 --> 02:03:58,297
COMMITTEE MEETING. AND JUST TO 

2979
02:03:58,297 --> 02:04:00,533
CLARIFY AND TO KIND OF REPEAT, 

2980
02:04:00,533 --> 02:04:04,570
THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE 

2981
02:04:04,570 --> 02:04:07,606
OUTREACH REQUIREMENTS OR ANY 

2982
02:04:07,606 --> 02:04:10,142
OTHER PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS 

2983
02:04:10,142 --> 02:04:12,945
FOR SEPA. THIS ONLY WOULD AFFECT

2984
02:04:12,945 --> 02:04:14,847
THE HEARING EXAMINER APPEAL OF 

2985
02:04:14,847 --> 02:04:19,385
TYPE FIVE DECISIONS, IS THAT 

2986
02:04:19,385 --> 02:04:19,652
CORRECT? 

2987
02:04:19,652 --> 02:04:22,388
>> THE HEARING EXAMINER APPEAL 

2988
02:04:22,388 --> 02:04:28,260
OF DECISIONS RELATED TO 

2989
02:04:28,260 --> 02:04:29,428
DEVELOPMENT REGULAR NATIONS AND 

2990
02:04:29,428 --> 02:04:31,096
THE COMFORTS OF PLAN. 

2991
02:04:31,096 --> 02:04:32,298
>> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU. VICE 

2992
02:04:32,298 --> 02:04:34,967
CHAIR STRAUSS, DID YOU HAVE ANY?

2993
02:04:34,967 --> 02:04:37,703
IT LOOKS LIKE, OKAY. I HAD A FEW

2994
02:04:37,703 --> 02:04:39,271
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, AND THANK

2995
02:04:39,271 --> 02:04:43,409
YOU FOR THE BRIEFING TODAY, AND 

2996
02:04:43,409 --> 02:04:45,277
THANK YOU FOR THE FUTURE WORK ON

2997
02:04:45,277 --> 02:04:48,681
THIS. JUST TO KIND OF PROVIDE A 

2998
02:04:48,681 --> 02:04:49,982
BIG PICTURE, SO THAT WE ARE 

2999
02:04:49,982 --> 02:04:52,017
UNDERSTANDING SORT OF WHAT THE 

3000
02:04:52,017 --> 02:04:54,186
PROPOSAL IS, AND THE ROLE OF 

3001
02:04:54,186 --> 02:04:57,022
SEPA, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY 

3002
02:04:57,022 --> 02:05:01,927
THAT THIS WOULD NOT CHANGE ANY 

3003
02:05:01,927 --> 02:05:03,662
OF OUR SUBSTANTIVE REGULATIONS 

3004
02:05:03,662 --> 02:05:05,731
IN TERMS OF OUR BUILDING CODE 

3005
02:05:05,731 --> 02:05:06,599
REQUIREMENTS, OUR STORMWATER 

3006
02:05:06,599 --> 02:05:07,233
REQUIREMENTS. THIS DOES NOT 

3007
02:05:07,233 --> 02:05:11,203
ACTUALLY CHANGE ANY OF THOSE 

3008
02:05:11,203 --> 02:05:13,072
REQUIREMENTS, IS THAT CORRECT? 

3009
02:05:13,072 --> 02:05:14,273
>> CORRECT. AND IT DOESN'T 

3010
02:05:14,273 --> 02:05:16,942
REQUIRE THE REQUIREMENT TO 

3011
02:05:16,942 --> 02:05:19,278
ANALYZE THE ENVIRONMENTAL 

3012
02:05:19,278 --> 02:05:20,045
IMPACTS OF THE CITY'S ACTIONS. 

3013
02:05:20,045 --> 02:05:23,649
>> SO WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE 

3014
02:05:23,649 --> 02:05:25,818
ANALYSIS, AND TO YOUR EARLIER 

3015
02:05:25,818 --> 02:05:28,053
POINT, PEOPLE STILL HAVE A RIGHT

3016
02:05:28,053 --> 02:05:29,488
TO APPEAL TO THE GROWTH 

3017
02:05:29,488 --> 02:05:34,460
MANAGEMENT HEARINGS BOARD, OR TO

3018
02:05:34,460 --> 02:05:35,427
SUPERIOR COURT, IS THAT CORRECT?

3019
02:05:35,427 --> 02:05:35,728
>> CORRECT. 

3020
02:05:35,728 --> 02:05:37,129
>> AND OFTENTIMES PEOPLE 

3021
02:05:37,129 --> 02:05:42,434
EXERCISE THAT RIGHT AFTER THE 

3022
02:05:42,434 --> 02:05:43,235
HEARING EXAMINER APPEAL. WOULD 

3023
02:05:43,235 --> 02:05:47,273
THAT BE CORRECT? 

3024
02:05:47,273 --> 02:05:47,606
>> CORRECT. 

3025
02:05:47,606 --> 02:05:49,208
>> AND JUST SO THAT WE 

3026
02:05:49,208 --> 02:05:50,709
UNDERSTAND SORT OF HOW THIS 

3027
02:05:50,709 --> 02:05:52,411
APPLIES TO COUNCIL LEGISLATION, 

3028
02:05:52,411 --> 02:05:55,848
I JUST WANT TO STEP BACK A 

3029
02:05:55,848 --> 02:05:59,151
LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT ARE 

3030
02:05:59,151 --> 02:06:02,855
THERE OTHER TYPES OF COUNCIL 

3031
02:06:02,855 --> 02:06:06,058
LEGISLATION THAT REQUIRE THIS 

3032
02:06:06,058 --> 02:06:08,160
LEVEL OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, 

3033
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:12,131
AND THEN A PROCESS TO ALLOWING A

3034
02:06:12,131 --> 02:06:16,468
HEARING EXAMPLE APPEAL. GY YOU T

3035
02:06:16,468 --> 02:06:20,005
O  S E E I F THERE'S A 

3036
02:06:20,005 --> 02:06:22,041
DIFFERENCE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, OUR 

3037
02:06:22,041 --> 02:06:23,142
CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. 

3038
02:06:23,142 --> 02:06:24,209
IS THERE AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW

3039
02:06:24,209 --> 02:06:27,112
PROCESS, OR DO WE GIVE PEOPLE A 

3040
02:06:27,112 --> 02:06:28,948
RIGHT TO APPEAL THAT TO THE 

3041
02:06:28,948 --> 02:06:32,484
HEARING EXAMINER BEFORE WE EVER 

3042
02:06:32,484 --> 02:06:33,185
CONSIDER THE CITY'S BUDGET? 

3043
02:06:33,185 --> 02:06:33,419
>> NO. 

3044
02:06:33,419 --> 02:06:35,354
>> AND WOULD YOU AGREE THAT 

3045
02:06:35,354 --> 02:06:38,924
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO 

3046
02:06:38,924 --> 02:06:41,093
HAVE A ROBUST ENGAGEMENT, AND 

3047
02:06:41,093 --> 02:06:49,735
INFORMATION AS WE DO OUR CITY 

3048
02:06:49,735 --> 02:06:49,969
BUDGET? 

3049
02:06:49,969 --> 02:06:50,369
>> CORRECT. YES. 

3050
02:06:50,369 --> 02:06:51,370
>> AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT 

3051
02:06:51,370 --> 02:06:52,438
FOR THE CITY'S BUDGET. WHAT 

3052
02:06:52,438 --> 02:06:54,840
ABOUT IF WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE

3053
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:58,344
LAWS LIKE AROUND PUBLIC CITY, 

3054
02:06:58,344 --> 02:07:01,914
LIKE OUR CITY'S SOAP AND SODA 

3055
02:07:01,914 --> 02:07:02,848
LAWS. DO WE GIVE PEOPLE A 

3056
02:07:02,848 --> 02:07:06,151
HEARING EXAMINER APPEAL BEFORE 

3057
02:07:06,151 --> 02:07:07,753
WE PASS LEGISLATION LIKE THAT? 

3058
02:07:07,753 --> 02:07:08,087
>> NO. 

3059
02:07:08,087 --> 02:07:13,158
>> HOW ABOUT WHEN WE BUY OR SELL

3060
02:07:13,158 --> 02:07:13,525
CITY PROPERTY? 

3061
02:07:13,525 --> 02:07:14,493
>> NO. 

3062
02:07:14,493 --> 02:07:25,037
>> WHAT ABOUT WHEN WE CHANGE OUR

3063
02:07:31,777 --> 02:07:32,077
UTILITY RATES? 

3064
02:07:32,077 --> 02:07:32,311
>> NO. 

3065
02:07:32,311 --> 02:07:32,911
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. AND IF WE 

3066
02:07:32,911 --> 02:07:34,079
DID GIVE THOSE APPEAL RIGHTS AND

3067
02:07:34,079 --> 02:07:36,715
THERE WERE MONTHS LONG DELAYS, 

3068
02:07:36,715 --> 02:07:38,450
WOULD THAT IMPACT THE CITY'S 

3069
02:07:38,450 --> 02:07:42,488
ABILITY TO PROCEED WITH LIKE OUR

3070
02:07:42,488 --> 02:07:44,123
CITY BUDGET? 

3071
02:07:44,123 --> 02:07:44,356
>> YES. 

3072
02:07:44,356 --> 02:07:54,767
>> THANK YOU. ONE OTHER 

3073
02:07:54,767 --> 02:07:55,367
QUESTION, IN TERMS OF WHO CAN 

3074
02:07:55,367 --> 02:07:59,772
BRING AN APPEAL, CAN YOU JUST 

3075
02:07:59,772 --> 02:08:00,239
SPEAK TO THE STANDING 

3076
02:08:00,239 --> 02:08:00,873
REQUIREMENTS OF WHO IS ALLOWED 

3077
02:08:00,873 --> 02:08:01,573
TO BRING A SEPA APPEAL? 

3078
02:08:01,573 --> 02:08:03,242
>> SO ANYONE CAN FILE AN APPEAL.

3079
02:08:03,242 --> 02:08:05,477
YOU DO NEED TO SHOW SOME SORT OF

3080
02:08:05,477 --> 02:08:07,212
CONNECTION TO THE ACTION AND 

3081
02:08:07,212 --> 02:08:09,314
POSSIBILITY OF HARM FROM THE 

3082
02:08:09,314 --> 02:08:10,449
ACTION IN ORDER FOR THE APPEAL 

3083
02:08:10,449 --> 02:08:16,488
TO PROCEED. BUT MANY APPEALS ARE

3084
02:08:16,488 --> 02:08:19,892
FILED THAT ARE DISMISSED A 

3085
02:08:19,892 --> 02:08:20,392
COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER. 

3086
02:08:20,392 --> 02:08:23,095
>> SO ANYBODY CAN FILE APPEAL. 

3087
02:08:23,095 --> 02:08:27,232
ANYBODY AROUND THE WORLD COULD 

3088
02:08:27,232 --> 02:08:29,902
FILE AN APPEAL, AND A SINGLE 

3089
02:08:29,902 --> 02:08:36,108
PERSON COULD FILE THAT APPEAL, 

3090
02:08:36,108 --> 02:08:36,508
IS THAT CORRECT? 

3091
02:08:36,508 --> 02:08:36,809
>> CORRECT. 

3092
02:08:36,809 --> 02:08:37,976
>> A SINGLE ENTITY, DO YOU HAVE 

3093
02:08:37,976 --> 02:08:39,144
TO BE A PERSON, OR COULD YOU BE 

3094
02:08:39,144 --> 02:08:43,282
SOME SORT OF UNNAMED GROUP TO 

3095
02:08:43,282 --> 02:08:43,649
FILE AN APPEAL? 

3096
02:08:43,649 --> 02:08:47,986
>> ANY PERSON OR ORGANIZATION 

3097
02:08:47,986 --> 02:08:48,420
CAN FILE AN APPEAL. 

3098
02:08:48,420 --> 02:08:50,222
>> AND EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE 

3099
02:08:50,222 --> 02:08:51,790
STANDING THAT HAS TO BE PROVEN, 

3100
02:08:51,790 --> 02:08:53,025
OR DISPROVEN, SO IT CAN STILL 

3101
02:08:53,025 --> 02:08:55,461
RESULT IN A MONTH OR TWO DELAY 

3102
02:08:55,461 --> 02:08:58,497
TO BE DISMISSED JUST BY FILING 

3103
02:08:58,497 --> 02:08:59,098
THAT APPEAL, IS THAT CORRECT? 

3104
02:08:59,098 --> 02:08:59,698
>> YES, THE HEARING EXAMINER 

3105
02:08:59,698 --> 02:09:00,332
DOES TAKE ANY APPEAL SERIOUSLY 

3106
02:09:00,332 --> 02:09:00,933
AND REVIEWS TO MAKE SURE THAT 

3107
02:09:00,933 --> 02:09:01,366
THEY HAVE STANDING. 

3108
02:09:01,366 --> 02:09:02,534
ANYONE AROUND THE WORLD COULD DO

3109
02:09:02,534 --> 02:09:03,368
THAT. THANK YOU. I ALSO JUST 

3110
02:09:03,368 --> 02:09:06,505
WANT TO CLARIFY, IF SOMEBODY WAS

3111
02:09:06,505 --> 02:09:07,573
CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CITY'S 

3112
02:09:07,573 --> 02:09:08,407
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PERHAPS THEY

3113
02:09:08,407 --> 02:09:09,475
WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING 

3114
02:09:09,475 --> 02:09:10,409
HAPPENING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD,

3115
02:09:10,409 --> 02:09:11,977
COULD THEY SORT OF APPEAL ONLY 

3116
02:09:11,977 --> 02:09:13,712
THEIR SORT OF CONCERN ABOUT 

3117
02:09:13,712 --> 02:09:15,681
THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR WOULD 

3118
02:09:15,681 --> 02:09:16,815
THEY APPEAL THE ENTIRE 

3119
02:09:16,815 --> 02:09:19,418
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF IT WAS A 

3120
02:09:19,418 --> 02:09:21,320
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AN 

3121
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:22,454
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF THAT? 

3122
02:09:22,454 --> 02:09:23,756
>> YOU APPEAL THE ENTIRE 

3123
02:09:23,756 --> 02:09:24,022
PACKAGE. 

3124
02:09:24,022 --> 02:09:27,526
>> SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE IT AN

3125
02:09:27,526 --> 02:09:29,995
ANALOGY. IF YOU WERE UPSET ABOUT

3126
02:09:29,995 --> 02:09:33,632
THE CITY'S, LIKE WE PASS OUR 

3127
02:09:33,632 --> 02:09:36,468
CITY'S MULTIBILLION DOLLAR 

3128
02:09:36,468 --> 02:09:37,569
BUDGET, IF YOU WERE UPSET ABOUT 

3129
02:09:37,569 --> 02:09:39,171
ONE $5,000 LINE ITEM IN THAT 

3130
02:09:39,171 --> 02:09:42,040
BUDGET, YOU WOULD HAVE TO APPEAL

3131
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:44,143
THE ENTIRE BUDGET, NOT JUST THAT

3132
02:09:44,143 --> 02:09:44,843
LINE ITEM. YOU MIGHT BE 

3133
02:09:44,843 --> 02:09:45,611
CONCERNED ABOUT ONE THING, YOU 

3134
02:09:45,611 --> 02:09:48,313
CAN'T JUST APPEAL THAT ONE 

3135
02:09:48,313 --> 02:09:50,549
THING, YOU HAVE TO APPEAL THAT 

3136
02:09:50,549 --> 02:09:52,417
WHOLE THING, AND THAT WOULD 

3137
02:09:52,417 --> 02:09:53,819
RESULT IN POTENTIALLY, MONTHS 

3138
02:09:53,819 --> 02:10:02,761
LONG, OR LONGER DELAY OF THAT 

3139
02:10:02,761 --> 02:10:13,005
ENTIRE THING. 

3140
02:10:14,039 --> 02:10:15,307
>> YES. 

3141
02:10:15,307 --> 02:10:17,409
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE 

3142
02:10:17,409 --> 02:10:18,610
QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR TODAY. 

3143
02:10:18,610 --> 02:10:19,211
COLLEAGUES, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS 

3144
02:10:19,211 --> 02:10:20,579
SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE 

3145
02:10:20,579 --> 02:10:21,847
TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC ON. I 

3146
02:10:21,847 --> 02:10:22,481
KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF STRONG 

3147
02:10:22,481 --> 02:10:23,115
FEELINGS, AND STRONG OPINIONS. 

3148
02:10:23,115 --> 02:10:23,749
THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK FOR US. 

3149
02:10:23,749 --> 02:10:24,316
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR 

3150
02:10:24,316 --> 02:10:24,950
WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE WITH US. 

3151
02:10:24,950 --> 02:10:25,584
THANK YOU TO LISH FOR JOINING 

3152
02:10:25,584 --> 02:10:26,118
US. AND ANY OTHER FURTHER 

3153
02:10:26,118 --> 02:10:26,785
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE 

3154
02:10:26,785 --> 02:10:37,262
END THE MEETING? OKAY. WITH 

3155
02:10:39,364 --> 02:10:43,836
THAT, WE HAVE REACHED THE END