1 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:20,320 -- GOOD MORNING. THE PUBLIC 2 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,323 SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL COME TO 3 00:00:23,323 --> 00:00:25,091 ORDER. IT'S 9:35 A.M. AUGUST 4 00:00:25,091 --> 00:00:26,693 11th, 2026 ON ROBERT KETTLE, 5 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:28,228 CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY 6 00:00:28,228 --> 00:00:29,562 COMMITTEE. WILL THE COMMITTEE 7 00:00:29,562 --> 00:00:32,532 CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 8 00:00:32,532 --> 00:00:34,868 -- COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ HERE. 9 00:00:34,868 --> 00:00:37,370 COUNCILMEMBER LIN HERE. 10 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:37,804 COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. 11 00:00:37,804 --> 00:00:39,973 -- GOOD HERE. 12 00:00:39,973 --> 00:00:41,574 -- COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA IS 13 00:00:41,574 --> 00:00:41,841 EXCUSED. 14 00:00:41,841 --> 00:00:45,612 -- CHAIR KETTLE HERE. 15 00:00:45,612 --> 00:00:47,580 -- THERE ARE FIVE MEMBERS 16 00:00:47,580 --> 00:00:49,516 PRESENT. SORRY. FOUR MEMBERS 17 00:00:49,516 --> 00:00:51,117 PRESENT. ONE NON MEMBER PRESENT. 18 00:00:51,117 --> 00:00:52,452 ONE EXCUSED. 19 00:00:52,452 --> 00:00:55,288 -- YES. THANK YOU. YES. 20 00:00:55,288 --> 00:00:55,922 COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA EXCUSED. I 21 00:00:55,922 --> 00:01:05,698 DID HAVE. 22 00:01:05,832 --> 00:01:16,342 OKAY, I'M GOING TO START. OKAY. 23 00:01:37,797 --> 00:01:41,000 HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. FIRST 24 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,869 THINGS, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA IS 25 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:44,370 EXCUSED. DID HAVE CONVERSATION 26 00:01:44,370 --> 00:01:46,639 WITH HER ON SOME OF THE ISSUES 27 00:01:46,639 --> 00:01:47,674 RELATED TO THE TOPICS ON THE 28 00:01:47,674 --> 00:01:49,476 AGENDA, WHICH I'LL FOLLOW UP ON 29 00:01:49,476 --> 00:01:51,177 AT DIFFERENT POINTS. THANK HER 30 00:01:51,177 --> 00:01:54,714 FOR THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO 31 00:01:54,714 --> 00:01:57,584 WELCOME COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, 32 00:01:57,584 --> 00:01:58,218 WHO'S OBVIOUSLY HERE FOR THE 33 00:01:58,218 --> 00:01:59,052 AGENDA ITEM, BUT ALSO 34 00:01:59,052 --> 00:02:01,788 IMPORTANTLY FOR THIS FIRST 35 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:03,890 AGENDA ITEM. AND OBVIOUSLY 36 00:02:03,890 --> 00:02:05,758 WELCOME TO STAY DURING THE 37 00:02:05,758 --> 00:02:09,529 COURSE OF THE HARBORVIEW MEDICAL 38 00:02:09,529 --> 00:02:10,230 DECLINE PRESENTATION AS WELL. 39 00:02:10,230 --> 00:02:11,598 I'M NOT GOING TO DO A CHAIR 40 00:02:11,598 --> 00:02:13,166 COMMENT THIS MORNING, BUT I DID 41 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:16,402 WANT TO BECAUSE THIS THURSDAY IS 42 00:02:16,402 --> 00:02:18,571 GOING TO BE 20 YEARS SINCE THE 43 00:02:18,571 --> 00:02:21,574 END OF THE WATCH FOR OFFICER 44 00:02:21,574 --> 00:02:23,710 LIDO BARBER, WHO LOST HIS LIFE 45 00:02:23,710 --> 00:02:25,545 20 YEARS AGO. THIS THURSDAY, 46 00:02:25,545 --> 00:02:27,847 THERE WILL BE AN EVENT TO 47 00:02:27,847 --> 00:02:29,616 COMMEMORATE IT AT THE FILIPINO 48 00:02:29,616 --> 00:02:30,650 COMMUNITY CENTER OF SEATTLE ON 49 00:02:30,650 --> 00:02:33,419 MARTIN LUTHER KING WAY SOUTH AND 50 00:02:33,419 --> 00:02:34,888 I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT 51 00:02:34,888 --> 00:02:36,589 TO REMEMBER OFFICER BARBER SIX, 52 00:02:36,589 --> 00:02:46,065 EIGHT, NINE, SEVEN. 53 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:55,408 THANK YOU. OFFICER BARBER'S 54 00:02:55,408 --> 00:02:56,476 NAME IS ON THE WALL NEXT DOOR 55 00:02:56,476 --> 00:02:57,844 ACROSS THE STREET AT THE 56 00:02:57,844 --> 00:03:01,014 HEADQUARTERS BUILDING OF THE 57 00:03:01,014 --> 00:03:02,015 SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. 58 00:03:02,015 --> 00:03:03,483 IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THE 59 00:03:03,483 --> 00:03:05,618 AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING 60 00:03:05,618 --> 00:03:09,022 AND SEEING NO OBJECTION, THE 61 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:10,957 AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WE'LL NOW 62 00:03:10,957 --> 00:03:12,458 OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. 63 00:03:12,458 --> 00:03:14,427 PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD RELATE TO 64 00:03:14,427 --> 00:03:15,662 ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA OR 65 00:03:15,662 --> 00:03:16,195 WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE 66 00:03:16,195 --> 00:03:17,063 COMMITTEE CLERK. HOW MANY 67 00:03:17,063 --> 00:03:17,664 SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP 68 00:03:17,664 --> 00:03:18,798 FOR TODAY? 69 00:03:18,798 --> 00:03:20,133 -- CURRENTLY, WE HAVE THREE 70 00:03:20,133 --> 00:03:22,335 IN-PERSON SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND 71 00:03:22,335 --> 00:03:22,802 ONE REMOTE. 72 00:03:22,802 --> 00:03:24,671 -- OKAY, EACH PERSON WILL HAVE 73 00:03:24,671 --> 00:03:25,305 TWO MINUTES AND WE'LL START 74 00:03:25,305 --> 00:03:26,439 WITH THE IN PERSON, OF COURSE. 75 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:27,907 AND CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE READ 76 00:03:27,907 --> 00:03:38,451 THE PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS? 77 00:03:38,885 --> 00:03:39,419 -- THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 78 00:03:39,419 --> 00:03:40,086 WILL BE MODERATED IN THE 79 00:03:40,086 --> 00:03:41,087 FOLLOWING MANNER. THE PUBLIC 80 00:03:41,087 --> 00:03:42,522 COMMENT PERIOD IS UP TO 60 81 00:03:42,522 --> 00:03:43,923 MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED 82 00:03:43,923 --> 00:03:45,325 IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY 83 00:03:45,325 --> 00:03:46,726 REGISTERED. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A 84 00:03:46,726 --> 00:03:47,927 TIME A CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE 85 00:03:47,927 --> 00:03:50,163 LEFT OF THEIR TIME. SPEAKERS 86 00:03:50,163 --> 00:03:51,264 MICS WILL BE MUTED IF THEY DO 87 00:03:51,264 --> 00:03:52,498 NOT END THEIR COMMENTS WITHIN 88 00:03:52,498 --> 00:03:53,399 THE ALLOTTED TIME TO ALLOW US TO 89 00:03:53,399 --> 00:03:55,101 CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER. THE 90 00:03:55,101 --> 00:03:55,802 PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW 91 00:03:55,802 --> 00:03:57,904 OPEN. WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE 92 00:03:57,904 --> 00:03:59,372 FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST. ON 93 00:03:59,372 --> 00:04:00,573 THE LIST, THE FIRST IN-PERSON 94 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:02,208 SPEAKER IS HANNAH ZIFF, TO BE 95 00:04:02,208 --> 00:04:04,611 FOLLOWED BY STEVE RUSCELLO. 96 00:04:04,611 --> 00:04:08,348 -- THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. 97 00:04:08,348 --> 00:04:10,383 -- I'M FROM PIONEER SQUARE. 98 00:04:10,383 --> 00:04:11,718 I'M INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE 99 00:04:11,718 --> 00:04:13,519 THE CITY IS A LOCKABLE AND 100 00:04:13,519 --> 00:04:16,289 BEAUTIFUL CITY THAT'S NOT EMPTY, 101 00:04:16,289 --> 00:04:18,157 AND IT'S GREAT FOR SMALL 102 00:04:18,157 --> 00:04:19,292 BUSINESSES. I'VE BEEN DOING A 103 00:04:19,292 --> 00:04:20,760 LOT OF ATTENTION SINCE THE END 104 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,764 OF JULY TO THE CITY COUNCIL, SO 105 00:04:24,764 --> 00:04:25,598 I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME 106 00:04:25,598 --> 00:04:31,437 POINT. SYSTEM. WHAT PROGRESS HAS 107 00:04:31,437 --> 00:04:32,071 BEEN MADE ABOUT HIRING THE TEAM 108 00:04:32,071 --> 00:04:32,705 TO INSTALL THE SECURITY CAMERAS? 109 00:04:32,705 --> 00:04:34,007 I KNOW THAT WAS A PRETTY BIG 110 00:04:34,007 --> 00:04:35,742 DEAL IN THE BUDGET MEETING, SO 111 00:04:35,742 --> 00:04:37,510 HOPEFULLY THERE'S BEEN AT LEAST 112 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:39,312 A CONVERSATION AROUND THAT. WAS 113 00:04:39,312 --> 00:04:41,748 THE MEETING BETWEEN KETTLE AND 114 00:04:41,748 --> 00:04:43,116 AI LEADERS FRUITFUL FOR FINDING 115 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:45,285 MORE TOOLS TO TRACK SHOOTERS AND 116 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:48,388 THE LIKE. I KNOW I WROTE YOU A 117 00:04:48,388 --> 00:04:51,057 COMMENT ABOUT MAYBE MEETING. 118 00:04:51,057 --> 00:04:51,924 -- WITH ZUCKERBERG BECAUSE THEIR 119 00:04:51,924 --> 00:04:54,093 SOFTWARE WAS PRECEDED. WHAT WE 120 00:04:54,093 --> 00:04:56,195 SEE NOW IN AI, AND HE INVEST A 121 00:04:56,195 --> 00:05:00,667 LOT INTO OUR CITY. WHAT IF SMALL 122 00:05:00,667 --> 00:05:01,300 BUSINESSES WERE SURVEYED ABOUT 123 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:03,703 HOW TO SOLVE CRIME AND OTHER 124 00:05:03,703 --> 00:05:04,303 ANTAGONISM AROUND AND TOWARDS 125 00:05:04,303 --> 00:05:05,738 THEIR BUSINESSES? BECAUSE 126 00:05:05,738 --> 00:05:08,274 THERE'S A LOT OF STATISTICS AND 127 00:05:08,274 --> 00:05:10,243 RESOURCES PUT INTO GATHERING 128 00:05:10,243 --> 00:05:11,911 STATISTICS, AND I THINK IT COULD 129 00:05:11,911 --> 00:05:15,682 BE REALLY EFFICIENT TO JUST ASK 130 00:05:15,682 --> 00:05:17,083 SMALL BUSINESSES WHO'S DOING 131 00:05:17,083 --> 00:05:21,587 CRIME, YOU KNOW, SEATTLE POLICE, 132 00:05:21,587 --> 00:05:23,489 I'M TOLD, USED TO BE TOP PAID 133 00:05:23,489 --> 00:05:25,692 IN THE STATE AT ONE POINT. I'M 134 00:05:25,692 --> 00:05:28,394 NOT SURE IF THAT'S TRUE. 135 00:05:28,394 --> 00:05:31,397 HOPEFULLY IT IS STILL TRUE. THE 136 00:05:31,397 --> 00:05:32,265 CITY SHOULD BE AFFORDABLE FOR 137 00:05:32,265 --> 00:05:34,834 EVERYONE IN SEATTLE IS 138 00:05:34,834 --> 00:05:36,102 CONSISTENTLY LISTED AS ONE OF 139 00:05:36,102 --> 00:05:37,270 THE MOST EXPENSIVE CITIES. THANK 140 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:42,909 YOU. 141 00:05:42,909 --> 00:05:43,443 -- THANK YOU. 142 00:05:43,443 --> 00:05:44,644 -- STEVE ROB TO BE FOLLOWED BY 143 00:05:44,644 --> 00:05:50,316 ANDREA SUAREZ. 144 00:05:50,316 --> 00:05:52,652 -- WE NEED A BETTER SEATTLE. I 145 00:05:52,652 --> 00:05:55,521 DON'T THINK WE'VE GOT IT YET. 146 00:05:55,521 --> 00:05:58,024 I WAS AROUND FOR THE BEGINNING 147 00:05:58,024 --> 00:06:02,562 OF THE BITE. SOME OF YOU MAY NOT 148 00:06:02,562 --> 00:06:04,597 REMEMBER THAT IT STARTED AT 149 00:06:04,597 --> 00:06:07,133 GREEN LAKE AND ONE OF THE 150 00:06:07,133 --> 00:06:09,268 CONSTANT PROBLEMS WE HAD WITH 151 00:06:09,268 --> 00:06:11,571 THE BITE OF SEATTLE WAS THE 152 00:06:11,571 --> 00:06:16,342 NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS THERE. 153 00:06:16,342 --> 00:06:21,047 OF COURSE, THE BITE WANTED FEW 154 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:24,417 OR NONE, AND THE GREEN LAKE 155 00:06:24,417 --> 00:06:25,051 COMMUNITY COUNCIL WAS PROBABLY 156 00:06:25,051 --> 00:06:30,189 THE LEADING ADVOCATE TO SUPPORT 157 00:06:30,189 --> 00:06:30,757 THE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE 158 00:06:30,757 --> 00:06:32,525 NUMBERS THAT THE. THE CITY 159 00:06:32,525 --> 00:06:36,863 ACTUALLY WANTED THEIR. AND I 160 00:06:36,863 --> 00:06:38,164 THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT WE 161 00:06:38,164 --> 00:06:41,534 NEED TO LOOK AT, NOT JUST THE 162 00:06:41,534 --> 00:06:42,969 COMMUNICATIONS, BUT DO WE HAVE A 163 00:06:42,969 --> 00:06:45,571 REAL PLAN THAT ACTUALLY HAS A 164 00:06:45,571 --> 00:06:50,943 GOOD CHANCE OF SUCCEEDING? I DO 165 00:06:50,943 --> 00:06:54,113 REMEMBER ONE MORNING COMING TO 166 00:06:54,113 --> 00:06:55,481 THE BITE AND OUR ARTS AND CRAFTS 167 00:06:55,481 --> 00:06:58,584 FAIR RAN AT THE SAME TIME, AND 168 00:06:58,584 --> 00:07:00,486 DISCOVERING THAT ALL THE NIGHT 169 00:07:00,486 --> 00:07:02,221 POLICE OFFICERS HAD BEEN 170 00:07:02,221 --> 00:07:04,056 CANCELED FOR PRIVATE SECURITY. 171 00:07:04,056 --> 00:07:05,792 TOOK ME A LITTLE WHILE, BUT I 172 00:07:05,792 --> 00:07:08,394 FOUND OUT THEY ALSO CANCELED THE 173 00:07:08,394 --> 00:07:10,296 ONE FOR THE ARTS AND CRAFTS 174 00:07:10,296 --> 00:07:11,430 FAIR. NOW, SOME OF THE OFFICERS 175 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:13,666 WERE QUITE ACCOMMODATING, AND WE 176 00:07:13,666 --> 00:07:17,003 DID GET THE PROBLEM SOLVED. BUT 177 00:07:17,003 --> 00:07:19,305 I KNOW THAT THE BITE HAS NEVER 178 00:07:19,305 --> 00:07:21,741 REALLY WANTED TO PAY FOR THE 179 00:07:21,741 --> 00:07:24,310 REAL COSTS. MY HOPE IS THAT WE 180 00:07:24,310 --> 00:07:28,948 WILL ADD THOSE SQUADS AGAIN SO 181 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:31,184 THAT THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY BE A 182 00:07:31,184 --> 00:07:32,018 REAL POLICE FORCE. WE'RE NOT 183 00:07:32,018 --> 00:07:34,020 LOOKING FOR A GESTAPO. WE'RE NOT 184 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:35,521 LOOKING FOR REAL HEAVY HAND. BUT 185 00:07:35,521 --> 00:07:37,356 WE ARE ASKING THAT THE PEOPLE 186 00:07:37,356 --> 00:07:41,627 WHO COMMIT CRIMES ACTUALLY GO TO 187 00:07:41,627 --> 00:07:43,563 JAIL. I'M SURPRISED THE JAIL 188 00:07:43,563 --> 00:07:46,132 ISN'T EMPTY WITH THE CRIMES I 189 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:50,436 SEE AND NOTHING HAPPENING 190 00:07:50,436 --> 00:07:53,105 -- THANK YOU. 191 00:07:53,105 --> 00:07:56,275 -- GOOD MORNING. ANDREA FROM WE 192 00:07:56,275 --> 00:07:57,643 HEART SEATTLE. WE FILLED YOUR 193 00:07:57,643 --> 00:07:58,911 CHAMBERS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WITH 194 00:07:58,911 --> 00:08:01,147 MEN AND WOMEN IN RECOVERY WHO 195 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:02,582 ARREST SAVED THEIR LIVES. AND WE 196 00:08:02,582 --> 00:08:04,250 PRESENTED YOU DATA FROM THE 197 00:08:04,250 --> 00:08:06,319 WASHINGTON POLICY CENTER THAT 198 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,254 THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSISTED 199 00:08:08,254 --> 00:08:10,556 DIVERSION PROGRAM IS A SCAM. 200 00:08:10,556 --> 00:08:11,591 IT'S NOW A NATIONAL NEWS STORY 201 00:08:11,591 --> 00:08:14,227 YOU NOW HAVE IN YOUR INBOX THE 202 00:08:14,227 --> 00:08:16,095 INFORMATION FROM WASHINGTON 203 00:08:16,095 --> 00:08:17,763 POLICY CENTER THAT LISA DUGARD 204 00:08:17,763 --> 00:08:20,466 AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN FACTUALLY 205 00:08:20,466 --> 00:08:22,134 PRESENTING THE DATA FOR YEARS, 206 00:08:22,134 --> 00:08:23,636 TAKING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF 207 00:08:23,636 --> 00:08:25,304 DOLLARS FROM US. LIVES HAVE BEEN 208 00:08:25,304 --> 00:08:28,174 LOST TO THE TUNE OF 2000 SINCE 209 00:08:28,174 --> 00:08:29,675 IMPLEMENTING LEAD. IT DOESN'T 210 00:08:29,675 --> 00:08:33,079 WORK YET. YOU STILL VOTED TO 211 00:08:33,079 --> 00:08:34,747 EXPAND INFIELD PRE-BOOKING 212 00:08:34,747 --> 00:08:35,581 HANDOFFS. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? 213 00:08:35,581 --> 00:08:37,984 IT'S NOT WORKING. WE GAVE YOU 214 00:08:37,984 --> 00:08:38,618 THE DATA AND THE MEDIA IS HERE 215 00:08:38,618 --> 00:08:41,020 AND EVERYBODY HAS THE STUDY NOW. 216 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:42,522 AND YOU GUYS PASSED SOMETHING 217 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:43,923 THAT YOU WERE PRESENTED DATA 218 00:08:43,923 --> 00:08:45,558 THAT CLEARLY SHOWED IT DOESN'T 219 00:08:45,558 --> 00:08:47,727 WORK. WE CAN ALSO LOOK OUTSIDE 220 00:08:47,727 --> 00:08:49,195 AND SEE WHERE NUMBER FOUR AND 221 00:08:49,195 --> 00:08:51,163 OVERDOSE DEATHS. WE'RE NUMBER 222 00:08:51,163 --> 00:08:53,065 ONE IN HOMELESSNESS GROWTH BY 223 00:08:53,065 --> 00:08:55,234 418%. WE'RE NUMBER ONE IN 224 00:08:55,234 --> 00:08:55,902 HOSPITAL RESPONSE. WE'RE NUMBER 225 00:08:55,902 --> 00:08:57,737 ONE IN RETAIL THEFT. LISA 226 00:08:57,737 --> 00:08:59,138 DAUGAARD GETS TO PUT PEOPLE IN A 227 00:08:59,138 --> 00:09:00,706 HOTEL AND ALLOW THEM TO SMOKE 228 00:09:00,706 --> 00:09:01,807 FENTANYL AND HAND THEM THE FOIL 229 00:09:01,807 --> 00:09:03,342 AND THE GLASS PIPES TO CONTINUE 230 00:09:03,342 --> 00:09:05,011 TO DO IT WHILE RIPPING ME AND 231 00:09:05,011 --> 00:09:08,381 YOU ALL OFF. SO TAKE A LOOK AT 232 00:09:08,381 --> 00:09:10,416 YOUR INBOX AND PLEASE REVERSE 233 00:09:10,416 --> 00:09:12,919 EXPANDING THE LEAD STOP LEAD NOW 234 00:09:12,919 --> 00:09:13,920 TO COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. I WAS 235 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,388 IN BALLARD YESTERDAY. I SAW 236 00:09:15,388 --> 00:09:16,923 LAWNMOWER MAN. HE SAYS HELLO. I 237 00:09:16,923 --> 00:09:19,792 BOUGHT HIS TABS FOR HIM AGAIN. 238 00:09:19,792 --> 00:09:21,460 WE'RE BOTH WONDERING WHERE THIS 239 00:09:21,460 --> 00:09:23,663 OTHER $5 MILLION IN RV OUTREACH 240 00:09:23,663 --> 00:09:25,464 GOES. WE ASK YOU TO BRING IN 241 00:09:25,464 --> 00:09:27,099 OTHER OUTSIDE VOICES. NOT JEN, 242 00:09:27,099 --> 00:09:28,801 NOT THE OLD GUARD. BRING IN SOME 243 00:09:28,801 --> 00:09:30,403 NEW VOICES TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR 244 00:09:30,403 --> 00:09:32,772 RV LEGISLATION. STORING RVS THAT 245 00:09:32,772 --> 00:09:34,974 ARE DILAPIDATED WHILE SOMEBODY 246 00:09:34,974 --> 00:09:37,777 GETS FREE HOUSING IS WRONG. 247 00:09:37,777 --> 00:09:39,145 PUTTING DILAPIDATED RVS ANYWHERE 248 00:09:39,145 --> 00:09:40,680 IN OUR CITY, EVEN IN AN 249 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:41,714 INDUSTRIAL AREA, IS WRONG. 250 00:09:41,714 --> 00:09:43,649 THEY'RE BLOWING UP. THEY'RE 251 00:09:43,649 --> 00:09:45,151 TRAFFICKING CHILDREN, DRUGS, 252 00:09:45,151 --> 00:09:46,352 STRIPPING WIRES, RIPPING OFF OUR 253 00:09:46,352 --> 00:09:47,586 COMMUNITIES, AND THEY'RE AN 254 00:09:47,586 --> 00:09:48,454 ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD. SO PLEASE 255 00:09:48,454 --> 00:09:49,455 BRING IN WHITEHEART OR OTHER 256 00:09:49,455 --> 00:09:52,892 OUTSIDE VOICES TO HELP YOU FINE 257 00:09:52,892 --> 00:09:53,492 TUNE YOUR LEGISLATION. THANK 258 00:09:53,492 --> 00:09:53,693 YOU. 259 00:09:53,693 --> 00:09:58,197 -- THANK YOU 260 00:09:58,197 --> 00:10:01,934 -- AND NEXT WE HAVE CLIVE 261 00:10:01,934 --> 00:10:05,071 HAYWARD. 262 00:10:05,071 --> 00:10:07,707 -- CLIVE HAYWARD, THE EMERGENCY 263 00:10:07,707 --> 00:10:09,742 SERVICES UNIT, IS A SEATTLE 264 00:10:09,742 --> 00:10:12,778 CENTER UNIFORMED SECURITY FORCE. 265 00:10:12,778 --> 00:10:16,415 ITS OFFICERS PATROL THE 266 00:10:16,415 --> 00:10:17,016 WATERFRONT. THEY DO NOT WEAR 267 00:10:17,016 --> 00:10:17,783 BODY CAMERAS. ON JUNE 4th, I 268 00:10:17,783 --> 00:10:19,752 SENT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 269 00:10:19,752 --> 00:10:22,021 A CLAIM ABOUT TWO YEARS. 270 00:10:22,021 --> 00:10:23,723 OFFICERS WHO ASSAULTED ME ON THE 271 00:10:23,723 --> 00:10:25,992 PROMENADE THE WEEK EARLIER, I 272 00:10:25,992 --> 00:10:28,694 WROTE THAT THEIR RECKLESS 273 00:10:28,694 --> 00:10:29,328 ENDANGERMENT NOT ONLY ENDANGER 274 00:10:29,328 --> 00:10:31,998 ME, BUT THE OFFICERS THEMSELVES. 275 00:10:31,998 --> 00:10:34,233 HAD IT BEEN DIRECTED AT SOMEONE 276 00:10:34,233 --> 00:10:36,168 LESS COMMITTED TO DE-ESCALATION 277 00:10:36,168 --> 00:10:38,270 THAN I WAS, I ASKED FOR THE UNIT 278 00:10:38,270 --> 00:10:40,473 TO BE RETRAINED. NOTHING WAS 279 00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:43,342 DONE. ON AUGUST 6th, THE SAME 280 00:10:43,342 --> 00:10:46,078 TWO OFFICERS TRIED TO DETAIN A 281 00:10:46,078 --> 00:10:48,347 PEDICAB DRIVER AND ESU SERGEANT 282 00:10:48,347 --> 00:10:50,049 WAS INJURED AND HAS BEEN OFF 283 00:10:50,049 --> 00:10:52,652 DUTY FOR MORE THAN NINE MONTHS 284 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:55,254 SEATTLE POLICE FOUND NO PROBABLE 285 00:10:55,254 --> 00:10:57,390 CAUSE TO DETAIN THE DRIVER ON 286 00:10:57,390 --> 00:10:59,392 DECEMBER 5th. SEATTLE CENTER'S 287 00:10:59,392 --> 00:11:00,693 OWN HUMAN RESOURCES MANAGER 288 00:11:00,693 --> 00:11:02,962 WROTE, QUOTE, IT IS NOT WITHIN 289 00:11:02,962 --> 00:11:05,164 THE ISSUES OFFICER'S AUTHORITY 290 00:11:05,164 --> 00:11:07,400 TO DETAIN, WITH OR WITHOUT 291 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,634 FORCE, SHE WROTE. THEIR ACTIONS 292 00:11:08,634 --> 00:11:11,203 WERE, QUOTE, CONSIDERED UNLAWFUL 293 00:11:11,203 --> 00:11:13,406 ACTIONS, AND SHE WROTE THAT THEY 294 00:11:13,406 --> 00:11:15,107 WOULD NOT BE DISCIPLINED 295 00:11:15,107 --> 00:11:17,209 BECAUSE, QUOTE, THE ALLEGATION 296 00:11:17,209 --> 00:11:20,579 THAT THEY THAT THEY WERE NOT 297 00:11:20,579 --> 00:11:23,382 PREVIOUSLY TRAINED TO THIS 298 00:11:23,382 --> 00:11:25,451 STANDARD. SINCE THAT CLAIM, I'VE 299 00:11:25,451 --> 00:11:26,786 TAKEN THIS TO THE CITY'S 300 00:11:26,786 --> 00:11:29,055 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE RISK 301 00:11:29,055 --> 00:11:30,790 MANAGEMENT, TWO MAYOR'S OFFICES, 302 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:33,993 THIS COUNCIL, THE OFFICE OF 303 00:11:33,993 --> 00:11:34,593 INSPECTOR GENERAL ETHICS AND 304 00:11:34,593 --> 00:11:36,362 ELECTIONS, ONE BODY PRODUCED A 305 00:11:36,362 --> 00:11:38,697 RESULT. THE OFFICE OF POLICE 306 00:11:38,697 --> 00:11:40,032 ACCOUNTABILITY ISSUED A 307 00:11:40,032 --> 00:11:42,401 SUPERVISORY ACTION AGAINST 308 00:11:42,401 --> 00:11:44,537 SEATTLE POLICE FOR FAILING TO 309 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:46,539 COLLECT EVIDENCE. IT HAS NO 310 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:49,842 JURISDICTION OVER THE OFFICERS 311 00:11:49,842 --> 00:11:51,610 WHO ASSAULTED ME. ONE OF THOSE 312 00:11:51,610 --> 00:11:57,650 OFFICERS WAS PROMOTED WHEN AND 313 00:11:57,650 --> 00:12:00,052 HOW WILL THE ASSAULT AGAINST ME 314 00:12:00,052 --> 00:12:03,155 BE RESOLVED? 315 00:12:03,155 --> 00:12:13,666 -- THANK YOU, MR. HAYWARD. 316 00:12:13,666 --> 00:12:15,634 -- THE FIRST REMOTE SPEAKER IS 317 00:12:15,634 --> 00:12:18,671 HOLLY WILLIS, TO BE FOLLOWED BY 318 00:12:18,671 --> 00:12:20,706 DAVID HAINES. PLEASE PRESS STAR 319 00:12:20,706 --> 00:12:26,612 SIX. 320 00:12:26,612 --> 00:12:27,213 -- GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE 321 00:12:27,213 --> 00:12:27,880 MEMBERS. MY NAME IS HOLLY WILLIS 322 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,015 AND I'M THE POLICY MANAGER FOR 323 00:12:30,015 --> 00:12:31,450 THE SEATTLE KING COUNTY 324 00:12:31,450 --> 00:12:33,352 COALITION ON HOMELESSNESS. 325 00:12:33,352 --> 00:12:34,787 COMMENTING TODAY ON THE PROPOSED 326 00:12:34,787 --> 00:12:35,421 SUITE OF LEGISLATION REGARDING 327 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:38,624 PEOPLE LIVING IN RVS. WE 328 00:12:38,624 --> 00:12:40,359 APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS 329 00:12:40,359 --> 00:12:40,993 INTENTION TO CREATE ADDITIONAL 330 00:12:40,993 --> 00:12:42,828 SERVICES THAT PEOPLE LIVING IN 331 00:12:42,828 --> 00:12:45,264 RVS NEED TO SURVIVE AND MOVE 332 00:12:45,264 --> 00:12:46,699 INTO SHELTER AND HOUSING WHEN 333 00:12:46,699 --> 00:12:48,167 IT'S AVAILABLE. WE SUPPORT THE 334 00:12:48,167 --> 00:12:50,069 WORK TO DEVELOP SAFE, SAFE LOTS, 335 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:52,071 STORAGE AND ADDITIONAL SHELTER 336 00:12:52,071 --> 00:12:54,507 AND HOUSING FOR ALL PEOPLE 337 00:12:54,507 --> 00:12:55,074 EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, 338 00:12:55,074 --> 00:12:55,908 INCLUDING PEOPLE LIVING IN RVS 339 00:12:55,908 --> 00:12:58,043 AND OTHER VEHICLES. HOWEVER, WE 340 00:12:58,043 --> 00:13:00,779 HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT 341 00:13:00,779 --> 00:13:02,481 THE PERMITTING PROCESS. OVERALL, 342 00:13:02,481 --> 00:13:04,049 THE ONE TIME NATURE OF IT AND 343 00:13:04,049 --> 00:13:05,551 WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE TO 344 00:13:05,551 --> 00:13:06,986 PEOPLE WHO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY 345 00:13:06,986 --> 00:13:09,388 TO GET A PERMIT, LOSE THEIR 346 00:13:09,388 --> 00:13:11,724 PERMIT OR BECOME HOMELESS AND 347 00:13:11,724 --> 00:13:12,758 START LIVING IN AN RV AFTER THE 348 00:13:12,758 --> 00:13:14,860 PERMITTING PROCESS IS CLOSED. 349 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:17,463 WE'RE CONCERNED THAT AS IT'S 350 00:13:17,463 --> 00:13:19,498 CURRENTLY CONCEPTUALIZED, IT 351 00:13:19,498 --> 00:13:21,167 WOULD BE PUNITIVE AND NOT 352 00:13:21,167 --> 00:13:23,402 HELPFUL TO MOVE PEOPLE INTO 353 00:13:23,402 --> 00:13:24,570 SHELTER AND HOUSING. WE LOOK 354 00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:26,672 FORWARD TO WORKING ALONGSIDE 355 00:13:26,672 --> 00:13:27,973 COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS AND ALL OF 356 00:13:27,973 --> 00:13:30,176 YOU WITH DIRECT SERVICE 357 00:13:30,176 --> 00:13:30,776 PROVIDERS AS YOU CONTINUE TO 358 00:13:30,776 --> 00:13:32,144 WORK ON THIS LEGISLATION. THANK 359 00:13:32,144 --> 00:13:37,550 YOU 360 00:13:37,550 --> 00:13:40,886 -- AND LAST UP, WE HAVE DAVID 361 00:13:40,886 --> 00:13:44,290 HAYNES. 362 00:13:44,290 --> 00:13:47,426 -- HI. THANK YOU. DAVID HAYNES. 363 00:13:47,426 --> 00:13:49,628 WHEN YOU EXEMPT MISDEMEANOR DRUG 364 00:13:49,628 --> 00:13:52,398 CRIMES, YOU ESCALATE VIOLENCE 365 00:13:52,398 --> 00:13:54,934 BETWEEN RIVAL DRUG GANGS. 366 00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:56,802 SEATTLE CITY ATTORNEY IS 367 00:13:56,802 --> 00:13:58,170 REPEATING THE SAME FAILURES OF 368 00:13:58,170 --> 00:14:00,372 HER BOSS, PETE HOLMES, AND THE 369 00:14:00,372 --> 00:14:01,907 CITY COUNCIL HAS LOOKED THE 370 00:14:01,907 --> 00:14:05,277 OTHER WAY AND SIGNED OFF ON THE 371 00:14:05,277 --> 00:14:06,679 SAME BAD POLICIES THAT ARE BAKED 372 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,080 INTO THE BUDGET, THAT LINE THE 373 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,549 POCKETS OF CORRUPT NONPROFITS 374 00:14:10,549 --> 00:14:12,051 THAT PAY FELONS TO RUN 375 00:14:12,051 --> 00:14:13,419 INTERFERENCE FOR FELONS, AND 376 00:14:13,419 --> 00:14:15,087 THEN CLAIM THAT THEY'RE HAVING 377 00:14:15,087 --> 00:14:17,122 SUCCESS DIALING DOWN HOW MANY 378 00:14:17,122 --> 00:14:17,723 PEOPLE ARE BEING INCARCERATED 379 00:14:17,723 --> 00:14:19,225 BECAUSE THEY'RE LITERALLY 380 00:14:19,225 --> 00:14:20,359 RUNNING INTERFERENCE FOR THEM. 381 00:14:20,359 --> 00:14:21,126 YOU CAN TELL SEATTLE'S IN A LOT 382 00:14:21,126 --> 00:14:22,795 OF TROUBLE BECAUSE OUR LEADERS 383 00:14:22,795 --> 00:14:24,997 KEEP LYING TO THEMSELVES AND TO 384 00:14:24,997 --> 00:14:26,065 US BY CLAIMING THAT VIOLENCE IS 385 00:14:26,065 --> 00:14:27,900 PROLIFIC ALL THROUGHOUT THE 386 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:29,568 NATION, YET THE ENTIRE NATION IS 387 00:14:29,568 --> 00:14:32,071 BASING THEIR POLICE REFORM ON 388 00:14:32,071 --> 00:14:33,839 WHAT SEATTLE SABOTAGE DID IN 389 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:38,510 2012. AND SINCE THEN, WHERE THEY 390 00:14:38,510 --> 00:14:39,078 PURPOSELY MISCONSTRUED WHAT 391 00:14:39,078 --> 00:14:40,846 CONSTITUTES A CRIMINAL EXEMPTED 392 00:14:40,846 --> 00:14:44,516 DRUG CRIMES FROM JAIL, AND THEN 393 00:14:44,516 --> 00:14:45,751 YOU ALLOWED ESCALATIONS OF 394 00:14:45,751 --> 00:14:46,986 VIOLENCE. AND THEN ONE OF VIRTUE 395 00:14:46,986 --> 00:14:48,153 SIGNAL HOW YOU WANT TO TAKE AWAY 396 00:14:48,153 --> 00:14:50,356 THE GUNS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE AS 397 00:14:50,356 --> 00:14:51,890 IF THEY'RE THE BIGGEST THREAT. 398 00:14:51,890 --> 00:14:56,428 BUT YET YOU KEEP LYING TO US 399 00:14:56,428 --> 00:14:58,230 ABOUT AN ADULT WHO MISGUIDED A 400 00:14:58,230 --> 00:14:59,431 YOUTH. YET WHEN YOU DEAL WITH 401 00:14:59,431 --> 00:15:00,933 THE YOUTH, YOU DON'T DEAL WITH 402 00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:02,801 THE ADULTS. YOU JUST HIDE BEHIND 403 00:15:02,801 --> 00:15:04,637 THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE HELPING 404 00:15:04,637 --> 00:15:05,604 THEM STAY OUT OF JAIL, MAKING 405 00:15:05,604 --> 00:15:07,172 SURE THEY DON'T GET PROPERLY 406 00:15:07,172 --> 00:15:09,208 PUNISHED BECAUSE YOU NEVER 407 00:15:09,208 --> 00:15:12,244 IMPROVE THE PUNISHMENT YET 408 00:15:12,244 --> 00:15:15,347 COMMUNITY PASSAGEWAYS AND ALL 409 00:15:15,347 --> 00:15:18,784 THOSE RACIST FRONTED, CORRUPT 410 00:15:18,784 --> 00:15:21,186 NONPROFITS KEEP SQUANDERING 411 00:15:21,186 --> 00:15:22,955 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND YET 412 00:15:22,955 --> 00:15:25,457 INNOCENT HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE 413 00:15:25,457 --> 00:15:26,025 STILL SUFFERING BECAUSE YOU 414 00:15:26,025 --> 00:15:27,359 DON'T PROVIDE THE CAPACITY FOR 415 00:15:27,359 --> 00:15:29,862 AN INNOCENT HOMELESS. THAT'S 416 00:15:29,862 --> 00:15:31,096 BEING RACIALLY DISCRIMINATED AND 417 00:15:31,096 --> 00:15:33,332 SUBHUMAN IS TREATED. BUT YET 418 00:15:33,332 --> 00:15:35,968 LISA DAUGAARD SHOWS UP AND TAKES 419 00:15:35,968 --> 00:15:38,570 AWAY ALL THE AVAILABLE CAPACITY 420 00:15:38,570 --> 00:15:40,973 OF HOUSING FOR SELF-DESTRUCTIVE 421 00:15:40,973 --> 00:15:41,607 CRIMINALS WHO STOLEN FROM THEIR 422 00:15:41,607 --> 00:15:42,708 FELLOW MAN WILLING THE PURSUIT 423 00:15:42,708 --> 00:15:45,110 OF HAPPINESS AND PARTICIPATE IN 424 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:47,880 THE DRUG UNDERWORLD THAT YOU 425 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:54,853 ALL. 426 00:15:54,853 --> 00:15:58,023 -- OKAY. THANK YOU. THE PERIOD 427 00:15:58,023 --> 00:15:58,691 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT EXPIRED EARLY 428 00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:01,427 AT THIS TIME. I WILL NOW PROCEED 429 00:16:01,427 --> 00:16:02,161 TO OUR ITEMS OF BUSINESS. 430 00:16:02,161 --> 00:16:04,763 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE 431 00:16:04,763 --> 00:16:05,364 ENCOURAGED TO EITHER WRITTEN 432 00:16:05,364 --> 00:16:06,532 COMMENTS ON THE SIGN UP CARDS 433 00:16:06,532 --> 00:16:08,667 AVAILABLE ON THE PODIUM, OR 434 00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:10,102 EMAIL AT THE COUNCIL. AT 435 00:16:10,102 --> 00:16:11,837 SEATTLE.GOV. I JUST WANTED TO 436 00:16:11,837 --> 00:16:13,972 NOTE TO HANNAH THANK YOU FOR 437 00:16:13,972 --> 00:16:15,174 COMING. JUST FOR CLARITY ON THE 438 00:16:15,174 --> 00:16:16,642 A PIECE I DID REACH OUT TO MISS 439 00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:19,578 SMITH TO ON PUBLIC SAFETY, AND 440 00:16:19,578 --> 00:16:21,413 SHE'S OUR NEW CTO, AND SO WE'RE 441 00:16:21,413 --> 00:16:22,681 GETTING FOLLOW UP ON THAT. SO 442 00:16:22,681 --> 00:16:25,050 THIS IS NOT WITH SOME OF THE 443 00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:25,684 BIGGER COMPANIES OUT THERE, BUT 444 00:16:25,684 --> 00:16:29,288 WITH OUR CTO, MISS SMITH, AND 445 00:16:29,288 --> 00:16:31,890 FOR MR. COSTELLO. BY THE SEATTLE 446 00:16:31,890 --> 00:16:34,093 POLICE COVERAGE STAFFING, THAT 447 00:16:34,093 --> 00:16:35,260 WILL BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. 448 00:16:35,260 --> 00:16:36,895 THANK YOU. AND FOR MISS JUAREZ, 449 00:16:36,895 --> 00:16:38,998 ON THE QUESTION OF LEAD, THIS IS 450 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:41,500 THE REASON WHY WE PUT THE. WE'VE 451 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:42,101 CHANGED THE DYNAMICS THAT ARE 452 00:16:42,101 --> 00:16:45,004 UNDER OUR COMMITTEE NOW, AND AS 453 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:46,305 NOTED IN THE LAST MEETING, THE 454 00:16:46,305 --> 00:16:47,406 ISSUE RELATED TO PUBLIC DRUG USE 455 00:16:47,406 --> 00:16:49,308 AND POSSESSION IS THE CONCERN 456 00:16:49,308 --> 00:16:52,911 RELATED TO LEAD FROM OFFICERS, 457 00:16:52,911 --> 00:16:54,213 BUT ALSO MEDICAL DECLINES, WHICH 458 00:16:54,213 --> 00:16:56,949 IS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. SO WE ARE 459 00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:57,750 WORKING THAT TOPIC, AND WE HAVE 460 00:16:57,750 --> 00:16:59,018 A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED ON 461 00:16:59,018 --> 00:17:01,420 ARV'S, TOO, FROM OUR SALMON BAY 462 00:17:01,420 --> 00:17:02,688 VILLAGE PROJECT. AND, MR. 463 00:17:02,688 --> 00:17:03,555 HAYWARD, THANK YOU FOR BEING 464 00:17:03,555 --> 00:17:05,758 HERE AND ALSO FOR OUR ONLINE 465 00:17:05,758 --> 00:17:08,894 COMMENTERS OKAY. THANK YOU, 466 00:17:08,894 --> 00:17:09,628 EVERYONE FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT. 467 00:17:09,628 --> 00:17:10,863 WE WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR FIRST 468 00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:13,532 ITEM OF BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK 469 00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:14,533 PLEASE READ AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 470 00:17:14,533 --> 00:17:16,802 ONE INTO THE RECORD? 471 00:17:16,802 --> 00:17:18,437 -- BUT IF SEATTLE SECURITY 472 00:17:18,437 --> 00:17:18,904 RESPONSE QUICK, LOOK. 473 00:17:18,904 --> 00:17:21,740 -- I'D LIKE TO ASK CHIEF SALES 474 00:17:21,740 --> 00:17:22,374 TO JOIN US AT THE TABLE, ALONG 475 00:17:22,374 --> 00:17:25,544 WITH CAPTAIN WARD AND MISS 476 00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:28,714 HOLCOMB, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC 477 00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:33,152 SAFETY. THESE ARE 478 00:17:33,152 --> 00:17:34,753 REPRESENTATIVES, OBVIOUSLY. 479 00:17:34,753 --> 00:17:37,322 CHIEF BARNES IS NO LONGER WITH 480 00:17:37,322 --> 00:17:40,559 US. AND ASSISTANT CHIEF DAVIS 481 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:41,927 HAS A CONFLICT WHICH WE SPOKE 482 00:17:41,927 --> 00:17:44,029 ABOUT ON THE FAMILY EMERGENCY 483 00:17:44,029 --> 00:17:48,000 SIDE. SO SPOKE TO THAT. WE ALSO 484 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,468 ASKED FOR MR. PRITCHARD FROM 485 00:17:49,468 --> 00:17:53,071 SEATTLE PD TO BE HERE AS WELL. 486 00:17:53,071 --> 00:17:55,441 THIS WILL BE THE FIRST THIS IS 487 00:17:55,441 --> 00:17:56,308 MORE TACTICAL OPERATIONAL, BUT 488 00:17:56,308 --> 00:17:59,745 THERE WILL BE A SECOND MEETING 489 00:17:59,745 --> 00:18:00,879 ON JULY 22nd ON THIS TOPIC, 490 00:18:00,879 --> 00:18:02,948 WHICH WILL BE FOLLOW UP ON 491 00:18:02,948 --> 00:18:04,083 TACTICAL OPERATIONAL LEVEL, BUT 492 00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:06,418 ALSO THE HIGHER LEVEL PIECE AS 493 00:18:06,418 --> 00:18:08,887 IT RELATES TO SPD. BUT AND NOT 494 00:18:08,887 --> 00:18:10,189 JUST SPD IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, 495 00:18:10,189 --> 00:18:12,658 BUT THE ENTIRE EXECUTIVE. AND 496 00:18:12,658 --> 00:18:14,093 THERE'S PRECEDENT FOR THAT, AS 497 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:17,629 NOTED TO ME BY MY COLLEAGUE, 498 00:18:17,629 --> 00:18:18,263 COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. YOU KNOW, 499 00:18:18,263 --> 00:18:21,467 ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 3rd, 2020, 500 00:18:21,467 --> 00:18:23,435 THERE WAS A EXECUTIVE 501 00:18:23,435 --> 00:18:24,870 DEPARTMENTS RESPONSE AND 502 00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:27,706 PRESENTATION OF TIMELINE OF 503 00:18:27,706 --> 00:18:29,308 EVENTS WITH CHIEF SCOGGINS AND 504 00:18:29,308 --> 00:18:32,811 CHIEF BESSE, AND THIS RELATED TO 505 00:18:32,811 --> 00:18:34,613 THE CHOP. SO THERE'S PRECEDENT 506 00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:35,514 FOR THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO 507 00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:39,017 SCHEDULE THAT FOR SEPTEMBER 508 00:18:39,017 --> 00:18:40,719 22nd. I DID ASK OUR IN-HOUSE 509 00:18:40,719 --> 00:18:43,055 COUNSEL RELATED TO THE 510 00:18:43,055 --> 00:18:44,189 POSSIBILITY AT SOME POINT HAVING 511 00:18:44,189 --> 00:18:46,492 CHIEF BARNES HERE, BUT ALSO WE 512 00:18:46,492 --> 00:18:48,126 REALLY DO NEED TO HAVE ASSISTANT 513 00:18:48,126 --> 00:18:50,395 CHIEF DAVIS AND SERGEANT 514 00:18:50,395 --> 00:18:53,532 PRITCHARD ON THAT SEPTEMBER 22nd 515 00:18:53,532 --> 00:18:57,836 MEETING. AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO 516 00:18:57,836 --> 00:19:01,507 WITH THAT, POINTS, COLLEAGUES, 517 00:19:01,507 --> 00:19:02,374 THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A 518 00:19:02,374 --> 00:19:03,175 PRESENTATION, BUT I'M GOING TO 519 00:19:03,175 --> 00:19:04,243 TURN IT OVER TO THE CHIEF SALES. 520 00:19:04,243 --> 00:19:06,512 OBVIOUSLY, WITH CAPTAIN WARD TO 521 00:19:06,512 --> 00:19:09,448 ASSIST. AND I SHOULD NOTE, I 522 00:19:09,448 --> 00:19:10,282 HAVE TWO STATEMENTS GOING OUT. 523 00:19:10,282 --> 00:19:12,851 ONE OF THEM IS THE TIMELINE 524 00:19:12,851 --> 00:19:13,719 STATEMENT. I WAS AT SEATTLE 525 00:19:13,719 --> 00:19:16,321 CENTER. I DID MEET WITH CAPTAIN 526 00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:19,391 WARD ON STATION AT THE COMMAND 527 00:19:19,391 --> 00:19:20,359 POST THERE NEAR THE ARMORY ON 528 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,060 THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ARMORY ON 529 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:24,596 THE NIGHT OF JULY 22nd. AND SO 530 00:19:24,596 --> 00:19:25,631 I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE TO 531 00:19:25,631 --> 00:19:28,967 HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WAS ON SCENE 532 00:19:28,967 --> 00:19:30,169 PRESENT, TO BE HERE TODAY AND 533 00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:31,670 SPEAK TO THE ISSUES AND ASSIST 534 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:33,772 CHIEF AND ALSO DIRECTOR HOLCOMB 535 00:19:33,772 --> 00:19:36,008 ON THE ISSUES RELATED TO THE 536 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:36,842 SEATTLE SECURITY RESPONSE. 537 00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:38,877 AGAIN, THIS IS A QUICK LOOK AND 538 00:19:38,877 --> 00:19:41,880 IT WILL BE FOLLOWED UP ON 539 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,383 SEPTEMBER 22nd. OVER TO YOU, 540 00:19:44,383 --> 00:19:44,616 CHIEF. 541 00:19:44,616 --> 00:19:45,984 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS 542 00:19:45,984 --> 00:19:47,486 AND EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE 543 00:19:47,486 --> 00:19:48,954 HERE, AS ALREADY SPOKEN. MY NAME 544 00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:51,323 IS ANDRE SALES, INTERIM POLICE 545 00:19:51,323 --> 00:19:53,258 CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR THE 546 00:19:53,258 --> 00:19:54,826 OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE MYSELF 547 00:19:54,826 --> 00:19:56,161 AND PUBLICLY EXPRESS MY 548 00:19:56,161 --> 00:19:57,930 APPRECIATION FOR THE MEN AND 549 00:19:57,930 --> 00:19:59,498 WOMEN WHO WORK FOR THE SEATTLE 550 00:19:59,498 --> 00:20:01,767 POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE SEATTLE 551 00:20:01,767 --> 00:20:04,002 FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR CARE 911 552 00:20:04,002 --> 00:20:05,437 AND THE SECURITY GUARDS AT THE 553 00:20:05,437 --> 00:20:07,673 SEATTLE CENTER I KNOW THAT THE 554 00:20:07,673 --> 00:20:09,775 TRAGIC INCIDENT DURING THE 555 00:20:09,775 --> 00:20:11,243 BATTLE OF SEATTLE REMAINS A 556 00:20:11,243 --> 00:20:13,378 CONCERN TO US ALL, AND THERE ARE 557 00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:15,347 STILL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 558 00:20:15,347 --> 00:20:16,782 PROGRESS OF THE INVESTIGATION. I 559 00:20:16,782 --> 00:20:18,850 SPOKE WITH OUR INVESTIGATORS 560 00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:19,384 THIS MORNING, BEEN HAVING 561 00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:20,452 MEETINGS WITH THEM EVERY 562 00:20:20,452 --> 00:20:22,120 MORNING, AND THE INVESTIGATION 563 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:24,856 IS STILL ONGOING. I KNOW THAT 564 00:20:24,856 --> 00:20:25,490 THERE ARE SOME SEARCH WARRANTS 565 00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:28,694 THAT ARE BEING WRITTEN FOR 566 00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:30,596 EVIDENTIARY VALUE. THERE'S SOME 567 00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:32,965 INFORMATION THAT'S GOING FOR 568 00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:33,498 TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENT IN 569 00:20:33,498 --> 00:20:35,534 REGARDS TO WHAT WE CAN SEE ON 570 00:20:35,534 --> 00:20:36,201 THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE WRITING 571 00:20:36,201 --> 00:20:38,303 SEARCH WARRANTS FOR. 572 00:20:38,303 --> 00:20:40,072 -- YOU CAN PULL THAT MICROPHONE 573 00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:41,273 CLOSER TO YOU. 574 00:20:41,273 --> 00:20:42,641 -- I KNOW MY VOICE CARRIES. I 575 00:20:42,641 --> 00:20:45,110 DIDN'T WANT TO BE TOO LOUD, BUT 576 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:47,145 WE'RE WORKING ON SOME SEARCH 577 00:20:47,145 --> 00:20:48,647 WARRANTS AS OF TODAY. I SPOKE TO 578 00:20:48,647 --> 00:20:49,715 THE LIEUTENANT OVER A HOMICIDE 579 00:20:49,715 --> 00:20:50,649 INVESTIGATION. THERE'S SOME 580 00:20:50,649 --> 00:20:51,750 SEARCH WARRANTS THAT THEY'RE 581 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:52,351 WRITING TODAY THAT THEY'VE 582 00:20:52,351 --> 00:20:53,185 WRITTEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF 583 00:20:53,185 --> 00:20:54,686 DAYS. THERE'S GOING TO BE 584 00:20:54,686 --> 00:20:58,023 FRUITFUL TO THIS INVESTIGATION. 585 00:20:58,023 --> 00:21:00,225 THERE HAVE BEEN MANY HEADLINES 586 00:21:00,225 --> 00:21:01,159 ON THIS TOPIC, BUT AS A CITY, WE 587 00:21:01,159 --> 00:21:03,061 HAVE NOT YET HAD THE OPPORTUNITY 588 00:21:03,061 --> 00:21:04,496 TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION FOR THE 589 00:21:04,496 --> 00:21:05,797 SAFETY PERSONNEL WHO WORKED ON 590 00:21:05,797 --> 00:21:07,399 THAT DAY. WE ARE SEVERAL MEN AND 591 00:21:07,399 --> 00:21:08,800 WOMEN THAT RAN TOWARDS GUNFIRE 592 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,238 ON THAT DAY. WHILE A LOSS OF 593 00:21:13,238 --> 00:21:14,840 LIFE WE ENDURED AS TRAGIC, THE 594 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,541 IMMEDIATE ACTION OF THOSE 595 00:21:16,541 --> 00:21:17,175 PERSONNEL SAVE EVEN MORE LIVES 596 00:21:17,175 --> 00:21:18,877 AND PREVENTED EVEN GREATER 597 00:21:18,877 --> 00:21:20,679 TRAGEDY. ON THAT DAY, WE HAD 598 00:21:20,679 --> 00:21:23,215 GREAT COMMAND STAFF PRESENCE ON 599 00:21:23,215 --> 00:21:25,384 SCENE AND WORKING. DURING THAT 600 00:21:25,384 --> 00:21:28,453 TIME. I THINK CAPTAIN WARD HAS A 601 00:21:28,453 --> 00:21:30,322 NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICER 602 00:21:30,322 --> 00:21:31,390 PERSONNEL THAT WAS THERE. I 603 00:21:31,390 --> 00:21:33,458 THINK WE WERE CLOSE TO ABOUT 200 604 00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:35,627 PERSONNEL THAT WERE EITHER ON 605 00:21:35,627 --> 00:21:36,762 SCENE OR RESPONDED TO THE 606 00:21:36,762 --> 00:21:39,564 LOCATION AT THAT TIME I WILL 607 00:21:39,564 --> 00:21:44,536 ALSO TALK ABOUT THE RESPONSE OF 608 00:21:44,536 --> 00:21:46,004 OUR SWAT TEAM DURING THAT DAY, 609 00:21:46,004 --> 00:21:47,706 IF YOU RECALL, OR IF YOU HAD THE 610 00:21:47,706 --> 00:21:49,841 INFORMATION, THE IMAX WAS SAID 611 00:21:49,841 --> 00:21:53,145 TO WHERE SOME INDIVIDUALS MAY 612 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:54,780 HAVE RAN INTO THAT LOCATION. 613 00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:55,781 DURING THAT TIME. OUR SWAT TEAM 614 00:21:55,781 --> 00:21:56,748 RESPONDED, I SAY, WITH LESS THAN 615 00:21:56,748 --> 00:21:58,317 AN HOUR AND A HALF, WHICH 616 00:21:58,317 --> 00:21:59,418 SOMETIMES IN THESE SITUATIONS, 617 00:21:59,418 --> 00:22:01,386 IT CAN TAKE SWAT TEAMS TO 618 00:22:01,386 --> 00:22:03,689 ASSEMBLE ABOUT TWO HOURS. BUT 619 00:22:03,689 --> 00:22:04,990 THEY RESPONDED IN A GREAT 620 00:22:04,990 --> 00:22:07,225 FASHION OF TIME TO MAKE SURE WE 621 00:22:07,225 --> 00:22:08,493 CAN PRESERVE LIFE. FOR THOSE 622 00:22:08,493 --> 00:22:11,129 THAT DO NOT KNOW ABOUT TACTICAL 623 00:22:11,129 --> 00:22:11,730 TEAMS SEARCHING A BUILDING OF 624 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:14,700 THAT MAGNITUDE TAKES A LOT OF 625 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:16,201 TIME. IT'S METHODICAL TO MAKING 626 00:22:16,201 --> 00:22:17,669 SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING ANY 627 00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:18,437 NOOKS AND CRANNIES IN THOSE 628 00:22:18,437 --> 00:22:19,938 BUILDINGS. THOSE OFFICERS DID AN 629 00:22:19,938 --> 00:22:21,673 EXCEPTIONAL JOB IN MAKING SURE 630 00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:24,676 THAT THEY WENT THROUGH AND 631 00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:25,243 SEARCHED THAT BUILDING WITH 632 00:22:25,243 --> 00:22:27,412 GREAT DILIGENCE AND MAKING SURE 633 00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:29,047 THAT THEY WERE DEEMING IT SAFE 634 00:22:29,047 --> 00:22:35,520 AT THAT TIME. ON SUNDAY, AUGUST 635 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,154 26th, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FROM 636 00:22:36,154 --> 00:22:36,722 THE REGION GATHERED AT THE 637 00:22:36,722 --> 00:22:38,056 SEATTLE CENTER FOR THE ANNUAL 638 00:22:38,056 --> 00:22:40,125 BYTE OF SEATTLE EVENT AT AROUND 639 00:22:40,125 --> 00:22:42,027 6 P.M. ON SUNDAY. GUNSHOTS WERE 640 00:22:42,027 --> 00:22:44,830 HEARD IN THE AREA. OFFICERS THAT 641 00:22:44,830 --> 00:22:46,665 WERE WORKING IN THAT AREA WERE 642 00:22:46,665 --> 00:22:48,467 WITHIN 100FT OF THE LOCATION RAN 643 00:22:48,467 --> 00:22:50,235 TOWARDS THAT SITUATION, 644 00:22:50,235 --> 00:22:51,670 IDENTIFIED A 15 YEAR OLD 645 00:22:51,670 --> 00:22:53,238 INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS INVOLVED IN 646 00:22:53,238 --> 00:22:53,905 THE SITUATION, WAS ABLE TO TAKE 647 00:22:53,905 --> 00:22:56,341 HIM INTO CUSTODY WITHOUT FURTHER 648 00:22:56,341 --> 00:22:59,044 LOSS OF LIFE. AT THAT TIME, OUR 649 00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:00,712 OFFICERS, WITHOUT HESITATION, 650 00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:02,748 RESPONDED. AS I MENTIONED 651 00:23:02,748 --> 00:23:05,150 EARLIER, OUR COMMANDERS WERE ON 652 00:23:05,150 --> 00:23:07,252 SCENE PROVIDING GUIDANCE FOR OUR 653 00:23:07,252 --> 00:23:08,687 OFFICERS AT THAT TIME, MAKING 654 00:23:08,687 --> 00:23:10,789 SURE THAT THE EVENTS THAT WE 655 00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:14,459 TRAIN ON A DAILY BASIS, WE ARE 656 00:23:14,459 --> 00:23:16,394 FOLLOWING THESE INCIDENTS, 657 00:23:16,394 --> 00:23:18,463 HAPPEN WITHOUT US KNOWING IT. 658 00:23:18,463 --> 00:23:18,997 OUR OFFICERS PROVIDED THE 659 00:23:18,997 --> 00:23:20,565 TRAINING AND WENT TO THE 660 00:23:20,565 --> 00:23:22,401 TRAINING THAT WE PROVIDE THEM 661 00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:24,970 EVERY DAY. CAPTAIN WARD WAS 662 00:23:24,970 --> 00:23:25,570 INSTRUMENTAL IN ESTABLISHING 663 00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:29,374 TEAMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE 664 00:23:29,374 --> 00:23:29,975 PRESERVING LIVES ALREADY FROM 665 00:23:29,975 --> 00:23:31,042 THE ONES THAT WE HAD ALREADY 666 00:23:31,042 --> 00:23:33,178 LOST. OUR OFFICERS DID NOT 667 00:23:33,178 --> 00:23:35,347 HESITATE WITH REGARD FOR THEIR 668 00:23:35,347 --> 00:23:37,649 OWN SAFETY OF THEIR OWN LIVES. 669 00:23:37,649 --> 00:23:39,851 THEY CONTAINED THE MAIN SHOOTER 670 00:23:39,851 --> 00:23:41,386 WITHIN 20 TO 30s OF THE FIRST 671 00:23:41,386 --> 00:23:43,422 SHOT BEING FIRED, ALL WITH 672 00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:46,191 ADDITIONAL GUNFIRE BEING FIRED. 673 00:23:46,191 --> 00:23:48,026 SPD PERSONNEL IMMEDIATELY BEGAN 674 00:23:48,026 --> 00:23:50,061 LIFE SAVING EFFORTS ON MULTIPLE 675 00:23:50,061 --> 00:23:52,063 GUNSHOT WOUND VICTIMS. 676 00:23:52,063 --> 00:23:53,098 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SHOOTER 677 00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:55,100 WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. THEY 678 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:56,568 ALSO BEGAN A QUICK AND 679 00:23:56,568 --> 00:23:57,702 METHODICAL SEARCH OF THE 680 00:23:57,702 --> 00:23:59,604 GROUNDS, LOCATING EVEN MORE 681 00:23:59,604 --> 00:24:00,572 GUNSHOT VICTIMS, INCLUDING A TWO 682 00:24:00,572 --> 00:24:03,275 YEAR OLD TODDLER. ALL EFFORTS, 683 00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:05,911 INCLUDING CPR, WOUND CARE, 684 00:24:05,911 --> 00:24:07,245 TOURNIQUET USE AND EMOTIONAL 685 00:24:07,245 --> 00:24:09,448 SUPPORT FOR THE VICTIMS CONTINUE 686 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:12,250 UNTIL OUR FIRE MEDICS ARRIVED ON 687 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:14,286 SCENE. THANKS TO THOSE EXTENSIVE 688 00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:15,153 TRAINING AND PREPARATION FOR 689 00:24:15,153 --> 00:24:16,488 SUCH EMERGENCIES, OUR 690 00:24:16,488 --> 00:24:17,122 SUPERVISORS AND COMMANDERS WERE 691 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:18,523 WELL PREPARED AND CONFIDENT IN 692 00:24:18,523 --> 00:24:21,159 THEIR ROLES, INCIDENT COMMANDER 693 00:24:21,159 --> 00:24:22,427 PROTOCOLS WERE FOLLOWED 694 00:24:22,427 --> 00:24:26,598 THROUGHOUT THE EVENT, RESULTING 695 00:24:26,598 --> 00:24:27,232 IN SEAMLESS SCENE CONTROL. THIS 696 00:24:27,232 --> 00:24:28,366 WAS AN OUTSTANDING TEAM EFFORT 697 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:30,302 BY ALL, INCLUDING WHICH LASTED 698 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:31,636 FOR SEVERAL HOURS. I WON'T BE 699 00:24:31,636 --> 00:24:33,538 ABLE TO NAME EVERYONE WHO 700 00:24:33,538 --> 00:24:35,140 PARTICIPATED IN THIS RESPONSE. 701 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:37,309 HOWEVER, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT 702 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:37,976 YOUR SERVICE, YOUR DEDICATION, 703 00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:39,945 YOUR PROFESSIONALISM DURING THIS 704 00:24:39,945 --> 00:24:42,013 TRAGIC EVENT WERE COMMENDABLE. 705 00:24:42,013 --> 00:24:44,349 ONCE AGAIN, OUR OFFICERS 706 00:24:44,349 --> 00:24:45,784 RESPONDED TO A CHAOTIC SCENE, A 707 00:24:45,784 --> 00:24:48,687 SCENE THAT WAS EVER FLOWING. AT 708 00:24:48,687 --> 00:24:51,122 THAT TIME, THEY DID AN 709 00:24:51,122 --> 00:24:53,258 EXCEPTIONAL JOB. WE ARE SETTING 710 00:24:53,258 --> 00:24:54,526 UP DEBRIEFINGS. AS YOU 711 00:24:54,526 --> 00:24:55,694 MENTIONED, ASSISTANT CHIEF DAVIS 712 00:24:55,694 --> 00:24:56,928 CAN BE HERE. HE HAS SOME 713 00:24:56,928 --> 00:24:58,029 PERSONAL THINGS THAT HE NEEDED 714 00:24:58,029 --> 00:25:00,832 TO TAKE CARE OF. WHEN WE MEET 715 00:25:00,832 --> 00:25:03,168 AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER, WE WILL HAVE 716 00:25:03,168 --> 00:25:05,103 ASSISTANCE. ASSISTANT CHIEF 717 00:25:05,103 --> 00:25:06,738 DAVIS HERE AND ALSO DETECTIVE 718 00:25:06,738 --> 00:25:07,472 PRITCHARD, SO WE CAN FURTHER 719 00:25:07,472 --> 00:25:08,807 TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M SURE. AND 720 00:25:08,807 --> 00:25:10,575 I'M CONFIDENT THAT OUR DEBRIEF 721 00:25:10,575 --> 00:25:12,277 AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE 722 00:25:12,277 --> 00:25:13,011 COMPLETED AT THAT TIME, AND 723 00:25:13,011 --> 00:25:15,747 WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE A MORE 724 00:25:15,747 --> 00:25:16,748 HIGH LEVEL ACCOUNT OF WHAT 725 00:25:16,748 --> 00:25:20,418 OCCURRED ON THAT DAY. THANK YOU. 726 00:25:20,418 --> 00:25:21,720 -- THANK YOU, CHIEF. CAPTAIN 727 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,089 WARD, ANYTHING TO ADD? 728 00:25:24,089 --> 00:25:25,423 -- I REALLY DON'T I THINK. 729 00:25:25,423 --> 00:25:27,692 -- YOU BRING UP THE MIC TO YOU. 730 00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:28,460 PLEASE. ALL THE WAY. 731 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:31,730 -- I THINK THE CHIEF COVERED IT. 732 00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:32,030 THANK YOU. 733 00:25:32,030 --> 00:25:34,432 -- OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK 734 00:25:34,432 --> 00:25:35,100 IT'S IMPORTANT, BY THE WAY. AND 735 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,035 FOR EVERYONE HERE, I THINK IT'S 736 00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:39,170 REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS 737 00:25:39,170 --> 00:25:40,438 OPPORTUNITY. OBVIOUSLY, SUNDAY 738 00:25:40,438 --> 00:25:41,873 NIGHT, THE 26th, THE EVENT, 739 00:25:41,873 --> 00:25:44,009 THERE'S OBVIOUSLY QUESTIONS 740 00:25:44,009 --> 00:25:44,643 REGARDING THAT PRESS CONFERENCE. 741 00:25:44,643 --> 00:25:45,243 AND THEN WE'VE HAD PRESS 742 00:25:45,243 --> 00:25:46,311 CONFERENCES ON THE MONDAY AND 743 00:25:46,311 --> 00:25:47,746 TUESDAY, BUT WE'VE NOT REALLY 744 00:25:47,746 --> 00:25:49,514 HAD ANY UPDATES SINCE THAT 745 00:25:49,514 --> 00:25:51,283 POINT. AND SO THIS COMMITTEE, 746 00:25:51,283 --> 00:25:53,318 THIS IS PART OF OUR JOB. THIS IS 747 00:25:53,318 --> 00:25:54,286 WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO IS 748 00:25:54,286 --> 00:25:55,987 PROVIDE THE PUBLIC THE 749 00:25:55,987 --> 00:25:57,956 OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR, IN THIS 750 00:25:57,956 --> 00:26:00,725 CASE, INTERIM CHIEF SALES AND ON 751 00:26:00,725 --> 00:26:04,029 THE ADD ONS WITH CAPTAIN WARD TO 752 00:26:04,029 --> 00:26:05,931 GET A BASELINE AND FOR US TO DO 753 00:26:05,931 --> 00:26:09,200 OUR DUTY IN TERMS OF FOLLOW UP. 754 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,902 AND TO THAT POINT, I NORMALLY GO 755 00:26:10,902 --> 00:26:13,371 TO MY VICE CHIEF, BUT TODAY I'M 756 00:26:13,371 --> 00:26:16,141 GOING TO START IS MY FIRST 757 00:26:16,141 --> 00:26:19,978 QUESTION THAT I WANT TO ASK IS, 758 00:26:19,978 --> 00:26:21,980 AND AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, I WAS 759 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:26,184 THERE AS OF ABOUT 715, 720 ON 760 00:26:26,184 --> 00:26:27,252 THE SUE BIRD COURT ANGLE AND 761 00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:30,155 THEN MADE MY WAY UNDER ESCORT TO 762 00:26:30,155 --> 00:26:35,293 THE TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE. OF 763 00:26:35,293 --> 00:26:35,961 THE ARMORY, AND I WAS THERE 764 00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:39,664 UNTIL ABOUT TEN, 15, TEN, 1005 765 00:26:39,664 --> 00:26:41,399 1015 AT WHICH TIME I LEFT THE 766 00:26:41,399 --> 00:26:42,801 SCENE. AND ONE OF THE POINTS 767 00:26:42,801 --> 00:26:44,102 FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BY THE 768 00:26:44,102 --> 00:26:45,537 WAY, ONE OF THE POINTS I WANTED 769 00:26:45,537 --> 00:26:48,573 TO MAKE WHEN I ARRIVED, I 770 00:26:48,573 --> 00:26:49,341 THOUGHT IT WAS A DONE SET SCENE 771 00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:50,942 THAT WAS GOING TO BE SOME TYPE 772 00:26:50,942 --> 00:26:52,444 OF UPDATE, AND THEN A PRESS 773 00:26:52,444 --> 00:26:54,012 CONFERENCE, AND I THINK THE 774 00:26:54,012 --> 00:26:55,547 PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THAT THAT 775 00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:58,183 SWAT OPERATION WAS ONGOING AND 776 00:26:58,183 --> 00:26:59,584 THAT THAT CHANGED THE DYNAMIC 777 00:26:59,584 --> 00:27:00,552 CONSIDERABLY FOR ME IN TERMS OF, 778 00:27:00,552 --> 00:27:03,355 YOU KNOW, BEING THERE. AND I 779 00:27:03,355 --> 00:27:05,390 NOTED THAT TO MY COLLEAGUES, 780 00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:07,025 WHICH WILL BE IN THE TIMELINE 781 00:27:07,025 --> 00:27:09,394 THAT I RELEASE TODAY. SO I 782 00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:11,630 WANTED TO NOTE THAT ABOUT THE 783 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:13,632 THE SWAT OPERATION AT THE THE 784 00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:16,067 IMAX THEATER AND THE BROADER 785 00:27:16,067 --> 00:27:17,635 PACIFIC SCIENCE CENTER. BUT MY 786 00:27:17,635 --> 00:27:18,803 QUESTION, FIRST QUESTION IS 787 00:27:18,803 --> 00:27:19,904 BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS 788 00:27:19,904 --> 00:27:20,805 IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF IT KIND OF 789 00:27:20,805 --> 00:27:22,707 GOES IN TERMS OF THE COMMAND AND 790 00:27:22,707 --> 00:27:24,342 CONTROL AND SO FORTH. BUT WHAT 791 00:27:24,342 --> 00:27:27,112 IS THE ACTIVE SHOOTER INCIDENT 792 00:27:27,112 --> 00:27:29,214 MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OR ASMS? AND 793 00:27:29,214 --> 00:27:30,248 DOES SPD USE THE SYSTEM? BECAUSE 794 00:27:30,248 --> 00:27:30,915 I'VE BEEN GETTING CONFLICTING 795 00:27:30,915 --> 00:27:34,152 INFORMATION ON THAT. OR DOES IT 796 00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:36,354 INSTEAD USE TACTICAL PROTOCOLS, 797 00:27:36,354 --> 00:27:37,789 INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM OR ICS 798 00:27:37,789 --> 00:27:40,225 PRINCIPLES? CAN YOU SPEAK TO 799 00:27:40,225 --> 00:27:41,660 WHETHER THE ASMS OR, YOU KNOW, 800 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:43,161 SOME OTHER TYPE OF PROTOCOLS ARE 801 00:27:43,161 --> 00:27:43,928 USED IN TERMS OF GOING TO THE 802 00:27:43,928 --> 00:27:45,530 CHECKLIST, IN TERMS OF THE 803 00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:46,698 RESPONSE AND WHAT IS HAPPENING 804 00:27:46,698 --> 00:27:50,268 AFTER THAT INITIAL NUMBER OF 805 00:27:50,268 --> 00:27:51,036 OFFICERS THAT WERE ON SCENE, 806 00:27:51,036 --> 00:27:54,239 WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING WAS ABOUT 807 00:27:54,239 --> 00:27:57,542 30, THEIR INITIAL RESPONSE. BUT 808 00:27:57,542 --> 00:27:59,344 BRINGING IN PEOPLE, CAPTAIN WARD 809 00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:00,011 AND OTHERS AND THEN GOING 810 00:28:00,011 --> 00:28:00,612 THROUGH THAT, THAT PIECE, CAN 811 00:28:00,612 --> 00:28:04,716 YOU SPEAK TO THAT PROCESS? 812 00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:06,751 -- YES. OUR TACTICAL OPERATION 813 00:28:06,751 --> 00:28:08,453 UNITS DOES USE ASMS. WE ALSO USE 814 00:28:08,453 --> 00:28:11,389 NTOA. THE NATIONAL TACTICAL 815 00:28:11,389 --> 00:28:12,657 OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. WHEN 816 00:28:12,657 --> 00:28:13,725 YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CHECKLIST, 817 00:28:13,725 --> 00:28:16,194 WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THERE 818 00:28:16,194 --> 00:28:17,262 DURING THIS CHAOTIC SCENE, IT'S 819 00:28:17,262 --> 00:28:18,797 A FLUID SCENE, BUT WE'RE ALSO 820 00:28:18,797 --> 00:28:19,597 STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE 821 00:28:19,597 --> 00:28:22,033 CITY. SO WHEN WE'RE PULLING 822 00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:24,169 RESOURCES FROM THE EAST 823 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:25,670 PRECINCT, WEST PRECINCT, NORTH 824 00:28:25,670 --> 00:28:27,105 PRECINCTS, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE 825 00:28:27,105 --> 00:28:28,973 TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE ENTIRE 826 00:28:28,973 --> 00:28:30,709 CITY NEEDS TO BE CARED FOR AS 827 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,510 WELL. I KNOW WE DID HAVE A 828 00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:34,145 SITUATION. I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 829 00:28:34,145 --> 00:28:36,147 THE NORTH PRECINCT DEVELOPING AS 830 00:28:36,147 --> 00:28:37,849 WELL. BUT WE DO HAVE CHECKLISTS. 831 00:28:37,849 --> 00:28:41,319 BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT 832 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:43,221 THE CHECKLIST IS FOR THE PERFECT 833 00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:44,355 SITUATION. AND THESE SITUATIONS. 834 00:28:44,355 --> 00:28:45,623 WE HAD THE GROUNDS THAT WE HAVE 835 00:28:45,623 --> 00:28:46,925 TO TAKE CARE OF. AND THEN WE 836 00:28:46,925 --> 00:28:47,892 ALSO HAD THE IMAX THAT WE HAD TO 837 00:28:47,892 --> 00:28:49,127 TAKE CARE OF. SO SOME OF OUR 838 00:28:49,127 --> 00:28:49,994 RESOURCES ARE GOING TO BE 839 00:28:49,994 --> 00:28:51,463 PULLED, AND SOME OF THOSE 840 00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:54,065 CHECKLISTS SAY WE NEED X AMOUNT 841 00:28:54,065 --> 00:28:54,666 OF OFFICERS, AND SOMETIMES WE 842 00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:55,600 HAVE TO PULL THOSE OFFICERS TO 843 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,102 GO TO DIFFERENT AREAS. SO WE 844 00:28:57,102 --> 00:28:59,471 WERE FOLLOWING OUR OUR TRAINING 845 00:28:59,471 --> 00:29:02,140 THAT WE PROVIDE FROM SPD. AND 846 00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:03,007 THEN SOME OF THE OUTSIDE 847 00:29:03,007 --> 00:29:04,609 TRAINING THAT WE'VE GOTTEN. 848 00:29:04,609 --> 00:29:06,311 -- OKAY, QUICK FOLLOW UP TO 849 00:29:06,311 --> 00:29:09,047 THAT. AND I KNOW THE THE MAYOR 850 00:29:09,047 --> 00:29:10,582 JUST ANNOUNCED A OIG OFFICER, 851 00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:12,317 INSPECTOR GENERAL REVIEW OF THE 852 00:29:12,317 --> 00:29:14,018 HIGHER LEVEL COMMS BETWEEN THE 853 00:29:14,018 --> 00:29:15,487 MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE AND THE 854 00:29:15,487 --> 00:29:16,888 DEPARTMENT. BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO 855 00:29:16,888 --> 00:29:18,723 THESE TACTICAL PROTOCOLS WITH 856 00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:21,826 ASMS AND THE LIKE? SPEAK TO 857 00:29:21,826 --> 00:29:22,460 COMMUNICATIONS OR NOTIFICATIONS 858 00:29:22,460 --> 00:29:25,296 AT THE MORE OPERATIONAL TACTICAL 859 00:29:25,296 --> 00:29:28,066 LEVEL, YOU KNOW, WITH OEM FIRE 860 00:29:28,066 --> 00:29:29,367 CARE, IN THIS CASE, SDOT, 861 00:29:29,367 --> 00:29:30,135 BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE 862 00:29:30,135 --> 00:29:32,170 THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE BEING 863 00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:34,372 FLOWING INTO DENNY WAY AND OTHER 864 00:29:34,372 --> 00:29:36,107 AREAS TO THE WEST AS WELL. AND 865 00:29:36,107 --> 00:29:39,144 THE STREETS WERE OBVIOUSLY 866 00:29:39,144 --> 00:29:40,311 IMPACTED. SO I RAISED SDOT AS 867 00:29:40,311 --> 00:29:45,116 WELL, AND. IS THERE ANY 868 00:29:45,116 --> 00:29:47,252 REQUIREMENT IN THAT KIND OF 869 00:29:47,252 --> 00:29:47,786 OPERATIONAL WAY FROM THE 870 00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:48,853 DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF 871 00:29:48,853 --> 00:29:50,522 COMMUNICATION, SEPARATE FROM 872 00:29:50,522 --> 00:29:54,792 ELECTEDS AND THE LIKE? DOES THE 873 00:29:54,792 --> 00:29:56,628 DOES THE ASMS OR THE OTHER 874 00:29:56,628 --> 00:29:59,130 PROTOCOLS SPEAK TO THAT MORE 875 00:29:59,130 --> 00:29:59,597 TACTICAL OPERATIONAL 876 00:29:59,597 --> 00:30:02,700 COMMUNICATIONS? AND WERE THEY 877 00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:04,068 DONE? 878 00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:05,103 -- I HAVEN'T DONE A FULL 879 00:30:05,103 --> 00:30:06,204 DEBRIEF ON THAT. SO I CAN'T SAY 880 00:30:06,204 --> 00:30:07,305 WITH 100% CERTAINTY THAT WAS 881 00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:09,307 DONE. BUT THERE ARE GUIDELINES 882 00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:11,442 FOR COMMUNICATION. I THINK THE 883 00:30:11,442 --> 00:30:14,045 MAIN POINT IS WITH THE 884 00:30:14,045 --> 00:30:14,679 COMMUNICATION IS COMMUNICATING 885 00:30:14,679 --> 00:30:16,247 AMONGST THE OFFICERS AND OUR 886 00:30:16,247 --> 00:30:17,549 TACTICAL OPERATORS, LETTING THEM 887 00:30:17,549 --> 00:30:19,884 KNOW, HEY, WE'RE CLEARING THIS 888 00:30:19,884 --> 00:30:20,818 LOCATION OF THE BUILDING AND 889 00:30:20,818 --> 00:30:21,953 WE'RE MOVING ON TO THESE 890 00:30:21,953 --> 00:30:24,455 LOCATIONS. WE HAVE TO KEEP IN 891 00:30:24,455 --> 00:30:27,959 MIND THAT THESE ARE STRESSFUL 892 00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:28,426 SITUATIONS. THE RADIO 893 00:30:28,426 --> 00:30:29,027 COMMUNICATION AND THE 894 00:30:29,027 --> 00:30:30,061 COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAVE IS 895 00:30:30,061 --> 00:30:31,596 GOING TO BE FLUID INFORMATION. 896 00:30:31,596 --> 00:30:33,431 IT CAN CHANGE AT A MOMENT. SO WE 897 00:30:33,431 --> 00:30:36,234 HAVE TO MAKE SURE OUR OUR 898 00:30:36,234 --> 00:30:36,701 COMMUNICATION AND THE 899 00:30:36,701 --> 00:30:37,335 COMMUNICATION AND THE 900 00:30:37,335 --> 00:30:38,803 INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PASSING 901 00:30:38,803 --> 00:30:39,704 ON IS ACCURATE INFORMATION. SO 902 00:30:39,704 --> 00:30:41,372 WITH THAT TIME, IT'S STRESSFUL 903 00:30:41,372 --> 00:30:43,174 AND WE'RE GETTING MULTIPLE 904 00:30:43,174 --> 00:30:44,309 PEOPLE TALKING ON THE RADIO FROM 905 00:30:44,309 --> 00:30:46,578 THE GROUNDS FOR THE SHOOTING 906 00:30:46,578 --> 00:30:47,612 OCCURRED. THEN OUR TACTICAL 907 00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:49,781 OPERATION UNIT THAT ARE WORKING 908 00:30:49,781 --> 00:30:51,115 WITHIN THAT BUILDING. SO WITH 909 00:30:51,115 --> 00:30:51,883 THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE WANT 910 00:30:51,883 --> 00:30:53,151 TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GIVING THEM 911 00:30:53,151 --> 00:30:55,887 OUT CLOSE TO 100% ACCURATE 912 00:30:55,887 --> 00:30:57,155 INFORMATION. SO ONCE WE DO 913 00:30:57,155 --> 00:30:58,489 DEBRIEF, I'LL BE ABLE TO 914 00:30:58,489 --> 00:30:59,390 RESPOND TO THAT WITH A LITTLE 915 00:30:59,390 --> 00:31:02,227 BIT MORE CLARITY. 916 00:31:02,227 --> 00:31:03,795 -- OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND 917 00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:05,597 YOU KNOW, THE, THE OEM OBVIOUSLY 918 00:31:05,597 --> 00:31:06,231 FIRE WAS THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, 919 00:31:06,231 --> 00:31:07,865 SOME OF THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS 920 00:31:07,865 --> 00:31:10,435 I THINK ARE IMPORTANT AS PART OF 921 00:31:10,435 --> 00:31:11,202 THAT, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT 922 00:31:11,202 --> 00:31:12,770 SWAP. WE ALREADY SPOKE TO THAT. 923 00:31:12,770 --> 00:31:13,738 AND MY LAST QUESTION BEFORE I 924 00:31:13,738 --> 00:31:16,474 TURN OVER TO VICE CHAIR IS CAN 925 00:31:16,474 --> 00:31:18,910 CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE MUTUAL AID 926 00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:21,446 AGENCIES AND ALSO STAFFING 927 00:31:21,446 --> 00:31:23,348 GENERALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE 928 00:31:23,348 --> 00:31:25,416 EVENT? OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD THE 929 00:31:25,416 --> 00:31:26,751 BASE STAFFING AND THEN WE GOT 930 00:31:26,751 --> 00:31:30,989 AUGMENTED, YOU KNOW, THE CRG WAS 931 00:31:30,989 --> 00:31:31,856 THERE AT SOME POINT. OBVIOUSLY 932 00:31:31,856 --> 00:31:33,157 THE, YOU KNOW, THE SWAT IN TERMS 933 00:31:33,157 --> 00:31:35,693 OF THE IMAX, WHEN I WAS THERE, I 934 00:31:35,693 --> 00:31:38,096 SAW KING COUNTY SHERIFF ARRIVE. 935 00:31:38,096 --> 00:31:40,531 OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAD THEIR DRONE 936 00:31:40,531 --> 00:31:42,600 PROGRAM. I SAW AT LEAST FOUR 937 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,870 ATF, YOU KNOW, OFFICERS SHOW UP 938 00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:46,704 AT THE SCENE AT THE COMMAND POST 939 00:31:46,704 --> 00:31:50,508 ALONG WITH OTHERS. CAN YOU SPEAK 940 00:31:50,508 --> 00:31:52,176 TO THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT WERE 941 00:31:52,176 --> 00:31:54,145 SUPPORTING US AND, AND THAT 942 00:31:54,145 --> 00:31:56,581 PROCESS AND, AND THEIR IMPACT? 943 00:31:56,581 --> 00:31:57,181 -- I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST 944 00:31:57,181 --> 00:31:59,917 THINGS IS IT WAS A GREAT 945 00:31:59,917 --> 00:32:02,086 RESPONSE BY OUR MUTUAL AID 946 00:32:02,086 --> 00:32:03,855 PARTNERS. WHEN YOU HEAR A SCENE 947 00:32:03,855 --> 00:32:06,224 OR A CALL LIKE THAT GO OUT ON 948 00:32:06,224 --> 00:32:07,025 RADIOS, I THINK THEY ANSWERED 949 00:32:07,025 --> 00:32:08,426 THE CALL WITHOUT BEING 950 00:32:08,426 --> 00:32:09,460 REQUESTED, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT 951 00:32:09,460 --> 00:32:12,830 TO SEE. IT WAS A GREAT WORKING 952 00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:14,932 PARTNER RELATIONSHIP. I THINK 953 00:32:14,932 --> 00:32:15,566 THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'VE 954 00:32:15,566 --> 00:32:16,401 DEVELOPED AS A SEATTLE POLICE 955 00:32:16,401 --> 00:32:18,036 DEPARTMENT WITH KING COUNTY AND 956 00:32:18,036 --> 00:32:21,105 OUR OTHER MUTUAL AID RESPONDERS 957 00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:22,240 WAS GREAT. I THINK THE OFFICERS 958 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,009 DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT. I WAS 959 00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:26,044 NOT ON THE SCENE. SO I THINK 960 00:32:26,044 --> 00:32:28,346 THIS IS A QUESTION THAT I 961 00:32:28,346 --> 00:32:29,614 BELIEVE CAPTAIN WARD CAN ANSWER 962 00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:30,615 IN REGARDS TO THAT. AND THEN 963 00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:32,617 ALSO YOUR SECOND PART OF THAT, 964 00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:33,217 SOME OF THE STAFFING NUMBERS 965 00:32:33,217 --> 00:32:35,653 THAT WE HAD ON SCENE. SO I WILL 966 00:32:35,653 --> 00:32:36,854 TURN IT OVER TO CAPTAIN WARD SO 967 00:32:36,854 --> 00:32:38,690 HE CAN ANSWER THOSE. ANY 968 00:32:38,690 --> 00:32:41,759 QUESTIONS. 969 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:43,027 -- YEAH. JUST BRIEFLY, THERE 970 00:32:43,027 --> 00:32:44,162 WERE THERE WAS A SMALL RESPONSE 971 00:32:44,162 --> 00:32:45,229 FROM THE FBI AND ATF. MY 972 00:32:45,229 --> 00:32:46,664 UNDERSTANDING IS THEY SELF 973 00:32:46,664 --> 00:32:47,265 DEPLOYED TO THE SCENE. THEY 974 00:32:47,265 --> 00:32:50,368 CHECKED IN AT THE COMMAND POST 975 00:32:50,368 --> 00:32:52,971 WHERE YOU AND I WERE STANDING. 976 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:53,971 THEY WE SENT THEM TO THE 977 00:32:53,971 --> 00:32:54,906 HOMICIDE UNIT TO BE OF 978 00:32:54,906 --> 00:32:58,076 ASSISTANCE WITH THE ON SCENE 979 00:32:58,076 --> 00:33:00,044 INVESTIGATION. KING COUNTY 980 00:33:00,044 --> 00:33:01,512 RESPONDED, MY UNDERSTANDING IS 981 00:33:01,512 --> 00:33:03,915 THEY DEPLOYED A DRONE TO ASSIST 982 00:33:03,915 --> 00:33:06,818 WITH THE ON SCENE PROCESSING OF 983 00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:09,354 THE SHOOTING SCENE. AND THAT WAS 984 00:33:09,354 --> 00:33:11,122 THE THAT WAS THEIR ROLE OR 985 00:33:11,122 --> 00:33:12,957 RESPONSIBILITY. AND THEN I ALSO 986 00:33:12,957 --> 00:33:13,591 UNDERSTAND THE WASHINGTON STATE 987 00:33:13,591 --> 00:33:15,326 PATROL RESPONDED AND ASSISTED 988 00:33:15,326 --> 00:33:16,961 WITH THE IMAX SCENE WHERE WE 989 00:33:16,961 --> 00:33:19,464 WERE SEARCHING FOR THE SUSPECT. 990 00:33:19,464 --> 00:33:20,932 SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S THE 991 00:33:20,932 --> 00:33:22,834 EXTENT OF THE MUTUAL AID 992 00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:25,803 RESPONSE THAT WE HAD 993 00:33:25,803 --> 00:33:31,476 -- THANK YOU. OKAY. VICE CHAIR. 994 00:33:31,476 --> 00:33:34,178 -- THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK 995 00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:36,214 YOU. INTERIM CHIEF SALES FOR 996 00:33:36,214 --> 00:33:39,684 BEING HERE TODAY FOR THE 997 00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:40,385 OVERVIEW. MOST IMPORTANTLY, I 998 00:33:40,385 --> 00:33:43,154 WANT TO THANK THE BRAVE MEN AND 999 00:33:43,154 --> 00:33:45,556 WOMEN OF THE SEATTLE POLICE 1000 00:33:45,556 --> 00:33:48,659 DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO THANK THE 1001 00:33:48,659 --> 00:33:56,134 THE COURAGEOUS RESPONSE AND 1002 00:33:56,134 --> 00:33:57,035 EXPERTLY EXECUTED ACTIONS FROM 1003 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:58,436 THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE 1004 00:33:58,436 --> 00:34:01,339 SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE 1005 00:34:01,339 --> 00:34:03,141 CARE DEPARTMENT ON THE. FROM THE 1006 00:34:03,141 --> 00:34:06,177 CALL TAKER PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. 1007 00:34:06,177 --> 00:34:09,213 FROM A FRONTLINE RANK AND FILE 1008 00:34:09,213 --> 00:34:11,682 FIRST RESPONDER PERSPECTIVE, 1009 00:34:11,682 --> 00:34:13,851 THIS WAS A WELL EXECUTED AND 1010 00:34:13,851 --> 00:34:16,788 WELL RESPONDED TO SCENARIO. FROM 1011 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:18,389 MY PERSPECTIVE, AND I WANT TO 1012 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:22,560 APPLAUD AND COMMEND THE COURAGE 1013 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,562 AND SWIFT ACTIONS OF OUR OF OUR 1014 00:34:24,562 --> 00:34:27,999 CARE. POLICE OFFICERS AND 1015 00:34:27,999 --> 00:34:32,703 FIREFIGHTERS WHO RESPONDED. NO 1016 00:34:32,703 --> 00:34:34,038 DOUBT THEY SAVED LIVES. NO DOUBT 1017 00:34:34,038 --> 00:34:37,175 THEY PREVENTED FURTHER TRAGEDY 1018 00:34:37,175 --> 00:34:39,143 AND FURTHER LOSS AND FURTHER 1019 00:34:39,143 --> 00:34:42,380 INJURY. AND I CAN'T I CAN'T 1020 00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:47,685 EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THE THE IMPACT, 1021 00:34:47,685 --> 00:34:48,252 THE TREMENDOUS BENEFIT AND 1022 00:34:48,252 --> 00:34:49,020 IMPACT THAT THAT HAD ON OUR 1023 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:54,659 COMMUNITY. SO. I ALSO APPRECIATE 1024 00:34:54,659 --> 00:34:57,128 THE. IN ADDITION TO THE 1025 00:34:57,128 --> 00:34:58,996 COURAGEOUS AND SWIFT RESPONSE 1026 00:34:58,996 --> 00:35:00,364 FROM OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, I 1027 00:35:00,364 --> 00:35:03,134 ALSO APPRECIATE THE 1028 00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:05,603 COLLABORATION FROM MY 1029 00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:06,237 COUNCILMEMBER COLLEAGUES WHO I 1030 00:35:06,237 --> 00:35:07,371 WAS IN TOUCH WITH ON A ONE ON 1031 00:35:07,371 --> 00:35:10,007 ONE BASIS THAT NIGHT, INCLUDING 1032 00:35:10,007 --> 00:35:11,976 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE CHAIR, 1033 00:35:11,976 --> 00:35:15,213 WHO I SPOKE WITH VIA PHONE RIGHT 1034 00:35:15,213 --> 00:35:17,915 AROUND THE INCIDENT. YEAH, JUST 1035 00:35:17,915 --> 00:35:22,520 ARRIVED, AS YOU NOTED, I WAS 1036 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,421 GETTING READY TO DROP EVERYTHING 1037 00:35:23,421 --> 00:35:25,323 AND HEAD OUT FOR WEST SEATTLE TO 1038 00:35:25,323 --> 00:35:27,358 GO TO THE CENTER MYSELF WHEN I 1039 00:35:27,358 --> 00:35:29,594 WHEN I FIRST SPOKE WITH THE 1040 00:35:29,594 --> 00:35:35,099 COMMITTEE CHAIR AND I AM, AFTER 1041 00:35:35,099 --> 00:35:36,901 ALL, THE COUNCIL CHAIR, CITY 1042 00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:37,502 WIDE CHAIR THAT OVERSEES THE 1043 00:35:37,502 --> 00:35:40,438 SEATTLE CENTER. AS PART OF MY 1044 00:35:40,438 --> 00:35:41,706 PORTFOLIO AND THE VICE CHAIR OF 1045 00:35:41,706 --> 00:35:43,774 THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. SO 1046 00:35:43,774 --> 00:35:46,210 I WAS IN GOING TO DROP 1047 00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:48,713 EVERYTHING HEAD OUT THERE MYSELF 1048 00:35:48,713 --> 00:35:50,581 WHEN THE CHAIR ADVISED THAT 1049 00:35:50,581 --> 00:35:53,818 CURRENTLY AN ACTIVE SHOOTER 1050 00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:54,452 SITUATION, POTENTIALLY UNKNOWN 1051 00:35:54,452 --> 00:35:55,586 IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL 1052 00:35:55,586 --> 00:35:56,287 ASSAILANTS ON THE LOOSE THAT 1053 00:35:56,287 --> 00:35:59,357 MIGHT BE HIDING OUT. AND HE 1054 00:35:59,357 --> 00:35:59,991 ADVISED THAT PROBABLY NOT A GOOD 1055 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:03,227 IDEA. IF YOU COME OUT HERE NOW. 1056 00:36:03,227 --> 00:36:08,332 OKAY. IN ANY EVENT, THE PUBLIC 1057 00:36:08,332 --> 00:36:09,500 HAS A LOT OF CONCERNS RIGHT NOW 1058 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:13,404 AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS OVER A 1059 00:36:13,404 --> 00:36:15,206 NUMBER OF ISSUES PERTAINING TO 1060 00:36:15,206 --> 00:36:18,476 THE THE EVENT, NOT THE FRONT 1061 00:36:18,476 --> 00:36:21,646 LINE RANK AND FILE RESPONSE, BUT 1062 00:36:21,646 --> 00:36:26,851 AT THE AT THE TOP LEADERSHIP 1063 00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:28,152 LEVEL, CONCERNS OVER, FOR 1064 00:36:28,152 --> 00:36:30,621 EXAMPLE, LACK OF INTEGRATED 1065 00:36:30,621 --> 00:36:33,124 SECURITY CAMERAS IN REAL TIME 1066 00:36:33,124 --> 00:36:33,758 MONITORING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE 1067 00:36:33,758 --> 00:36:36,427 SEATTLE CENTER. WE SAW 1068 00:36:36,427 --> 00:36:38,796 SUBSEQUENTLY A LETTER FROM ALL 1069 00:36:38,796 --> 00:36:40,164 THE MAJOR EVENT PROVIDERS THAT 1070 00:36:40,164 --> 00:36:46,704 WERE SENT TO THE MAYOR AND THIS 1071 00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:48,539 COUNCIL URGING, BEGGING FOR 1072 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:51,909 SECURITY CAMERAS AT BIG EVENTS 1073 00:36:51,909 --> 00:36:54,845 LIKE THIS. AND THEY'RE 1074 00:36:54,845 --> 00:36:56,547 ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE ARE HEARING 1075 00:36:56,547 --> 00:36:59,917 CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC AROUND 1076 00:36:59,917 --> 00:37:01,419 THE DELAYED UPDATES TO THE 1077 00:37:01,419 --> 00:37:02,653 PUBLIC, AND I THINK WE'LL DIVE 1078 00:37:02,653 --> 00:37:04,522 DEEP INTO SOME OF THAT TODAY. 1079 00:37:04,522 --> 00:37:06,958 AND ON THE FOLLOW UP MEETING ON 1080 00:37:06,958 --> 00:37:08,292 THE 22nd NEXT MONTH, WE'RE 1081 00:37:08,292 --> 00:37:10,695 HEARING CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC 1082 00:37:10,695 --> 00:37:11,195 AROUND INCONSISTENCY IN 1083 00:37:11,195 --> 00:37:11,862 REPORTING AND INFORMATION, 1084 00:37:11,862 --> 00:37:14,699 PARTICULARLY IN THOSE FIRST FEW 1085 00:37:14,699 --> 00:37:17,868 CRITICAL HOURS AFTER THE EVENT 1086 00:37:17,868 --> 00:37:19,770 UNFOLDED. BUT, CHIEF, I HAVE A 1087 00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:20,738 NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, AND I'M 1088 00:37:20,738 --> 00:37:22,440 JUST GOING TO I'M JUST GOING TO 1089 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,342 BE POINT BLANK HERE AND ASK YOU 1090 00:37:24,342 --> 00:37:26,644 ONE THAT IS ON THE IS ON THE 1091 00:37:26,644 --> 00:37:27,244 MINDS OF MANY MEMBERS OF THE 1092 00:37:27,244 --> 00:37:28,079 PUBLIC, AND THEY ABSOLUTELY 1093 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,948 DESERVE TO KNOW, IS THERE A 1094 00:37:30,948 --> 00:37:35,486 KILLER ON THE LOOSE, YES OR NO? 1095 00:37:35,486 --> 00:37:38,422 -- SPEAKING WITH MY DETECTIVES 1096 00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:39,957 THIS MORNING, WE'RE COMBING 1097 00:37:39,957 --> 00:37:40,491 THROUGH SOME WARRANTS AND 1098 00:37:40,491 --> 00:37:42,960 LOOKING AT SOME THINGS. WE STILL 1099 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,562 HAVE TO COMB THROUGH SOME VIDEO 1100 00:37:44,562 --> 00:37:46,530 SURVEILLANCE THAT WAS THERE I 1101 00:37:46,530 --> 00:37:49,567 CAN'T SAY YES OR NO. THERE IS A 1102 00:37:49,567 --> 00:37:50,601 POSSIBILITY. AND I THINK WE'RE 1103 00:37:50,601 --> 00:37:51,636 GETTING TO THE END OF THAT. ONCE 1104 00:37:51,636 --> 00:37:53,371 WE GET THE EVIDENCE THAT WE NEED 1105 00:37:53,371 --> 00:37:55,573 FROM OUR DETECTIVES LOOKING AT 1106 00:37:55,573 --> 00:37:56,474 THE VIDEO, LOOKING AT SOME 1107 00:37:56,474 --> 00:37:57,508 SOCIAL MEDIA THINGS, I THINK 1108 00:37:57,508 --> 00:37:59,176 WE'LL HAVE A BETTER RESPONSE 1109 00:37:59,176 --> 00:38:02,446 AND A BETTER IDEA IF THERE'S 1110 00:38:02,446 --> 00:38:03,347 ACTUAL KILLER LOOSE ON THE LOOSE 1111 00:38:03,347 --> 00:38:03,648 RIGHT NOW. 1112 00:38:03,648 --> 00:38:05,316 -- AS PART OF THE ORDINARY 1113 00:38:05,316 --> 00:38:07,618 COURSE OF INVESTIGATION. DIDN'T 1114 00:38:07,618 --> 00:38:10,321 YOU TALK TO DIDN'T 1115 00:38:10,321 --> 00:38:10,855 INVESTIGATORS SPEAK WITH 1116 00:38:10,855 --> 00:38:13,491 INTERVIEW, TALK TO DOZENS OF 1117 00:38:13,491 --> 00:38:17,061 PEOPLE WHO ARE AROUND THERE, 1118 00:38:17,061 --> 00:38:18,996 INCLUDING THE VICTIMS THAT COULD 1119 00:38:18,996 --> 00:38:19,563 HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF 1120 00:38:19,563 --> 00:38:22,133 WHETHER OR NOT OF HOW MANY 1121 00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:22,600 SHOOTERS THERE WERE. 1122 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,602 -- IN TRAUMATIC EVENTS. 1123 00:38:24,602 --> 00:38:26,170 SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE A 1124 00:38:26,170 --> 00:38:29,573 WITNESS, SOME THINGS MAY BE NOT 1125 00:38:29,573 --> 00:38:30,875 AS TRUE AS YOU THINK THEY MAY BE 1126 00:38:30,875 --> 00:38:32,410 BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A TRAUMATIC 1127 00:38:32,410 --> 00:38:33,544 EVENT. SO ONCE AGAIN, LIKE I 1128 00:38:33,544 --> 00:38:34,945 SPOKE AT THE FIRST PRESS 1129 00:38:34,945 --> 00:38:36,881 CONFERENCE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY 1130 00:38:36,881 --> 00:38:38,382 A PERSON IN A GREEN, PURPLE, 1131 00:38:38,382 --> 00:38:39,517 YELLOW SHIRT IS THE PERSON THAT 1132 00:38:39,517 --> 00:38:40,251 WE'RE GOING TO ARREST AND WE 1133 00:38:40,251 --> 00:38:41,485 MAKE AN ARREST. AND THAT IS NOT 1134 00:38:41,485 --> 00:38:42,787 THE PERSON THAT WAS THERE, 1135 00:38:42,787 --> 00:38:43,888 BECAUSE THERE'S THOUSANDS OF 1136 00:38:43,888 --> 00:38:44,689 PEOPLE THAT WERE RUNNING FROM 1137 00:38:44,689 --> 00:38:47,324 THAT SCENE AT THAT TIME. 1138 00:38:47,324 --> 00:38:48,759 -- I THINK THE PUBLIC DOES 1139 00:38:48,759 --> 00:38:49,393 DESERVE TO KNOW WHETHER A KILLER 1140 00:38:49,393 --> 00:38:51,062 IS ON THE LOOSE OR NOT, OR A 1141 00:38:51,062 --> 00:38:51,996 POTENTIAL OR SUSPECTED KILLER. 1142 00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:53,931 FRAME IT, COUCH IT IN WHATEVER 1143 00:38:53,931 --> 00:38:55,966 SORT OF QUALIFYING TERMINOLOGY 1144 00:38:55,966 --> 00:38:58,035 YOU WANT. BUT THAT IS BASELINE 1145 00:38:58,035 --> 00:38:59,637 INFORMATION THAT THE PUBLIC 1146 00:38:59,637 --> 00:39:01,572 DESERVES TO KNOW IF THERE WAS 1147 00:39:01,572 --> 00:39:03,040 ANOTHER SHOOTER, A POTENTIAL 1148 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,112 SHOOTER, WHATEVER. CHOOSE YOUR 1149 00:39:08,112 --> 00:39:09,347 PREFERRED FRAMING. CAN YOU 1150 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:12,516 PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF THIS 1151 00:39:12,516 --> 00:39:12,950 PERSON OR PERSONS? 1152 00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:14,618 -- CAN'T CAN'T GIVE A 1153 00:39:14,618 --> 00:39:15,486 DESCRIPTION, BUT I WILL SAY 1154 00:39:15,486 --> 00:39:17,722 THERE IS A POTENTIAL SHOOTER OUT 1155 00:39:17,722 --> 00:39:19,523 THERE. THERE'S POTENTIAL PEOPLE 1156 00:39:19,523 --> 00:39:20,991 THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. ONCE 1157 00:39:20,991 --> 00:39:25,362 AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO MISS 1158 00:39:25,362 --> 00:39:26,230 CHARACTER SOMEONE. AND THEN NEXT 1159 00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:27,565 THING YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER 1160 00:39:27,565 --> 00:39:28,466 THINGS THAT COME WITH THAT WHEN 1161 00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:30,067 WE'RE SAYING THIS IS THE PERSON 1162 00:39:30,067 --> 00:39:31,001 AND THAT IS NOT THE PERSON, WE 1163 00:39:31,001 --> 00:39:33,304 WANT TO BE ACCURATE TOO MUCH, 1164 00:39:33,304 --> 00:39:35,239 TOO MANY TIMES. I KNOW PEOPLE 1165 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,375 DON'T LIKE THIS RESPONSE, BUT 1166 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:38,843 TOO MUCH IN POLICING IN THIS 1167 00:39:38,843 --> 00:39:40,544 WORLD, THERE HAVE BEEN 1168 00:39:40,544 --> 00:39:41,112 INJUSTICES OF PEOPLE BEING 1169 00:39:41,112 --> 00:39:42,947 ARRESTED, LITTLE TO NO 1170 00:39:42,947 --> 00:39:45,683 INFORMATION. WE WANT 100% 1171 00:39:45,683 --> 00:39:47,385 ACCURACY WHEN WE MAKE AN ARREST. 1172 00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:49,787 IF WE HAVE TO MAKE AN ARREST. 1173 00:39:49,787 --> 00:39:52,156 -- SO I, AS A BLACK MAN, I 1174 00:39:52,156 --> 00:39:55,693 UNDERSTAND THAT ALL TOO WELL. AT 1175 00:39:55,693 --> 00:39:57,962 THE SAME TIME, IT'S IMPERATIVE 1176 00:39:57,962 --> 00:40:02,032 THAT WE BALANCE THE NEED TO 1177 00:40:02,032 --> 00:40:07,405 AVOID PERPETUATING HISTORICAL 1178 00:40:07,405 --> 00:40:10,441 INJUSTICES AND. RACIAL 1179 00:40:10,441 --> 00:40:12,610 DISCRIMINATION IN POLICING WITH 1180 00:40:12,610 --> 00:40:14,145 THE NEED TO PROVIDE OBJECTIVE, 1181 00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:17,248 TIMELY RELEVANT INFORMATION TO 1182 00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:18,916 THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN MAKE 1183 00:40:18,916 --> 00:40:23,921 DECISIONS ACCORDINGLY. SO 1184 00:40:23,921 --> 00:40:24,555 IRRESPECTIVE OF THE THE RACE OF 1185 00:40:24,555 --> 00:40:27,291 THIS PERSON, ARE YOU ABLE TO 1186 00:40:27,291 --> 00:40:31,162 PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT 1187 00:40:31,162 --> 00:40:31,595 THEY WERE WEARING? 1188 00:40:31,595 --> 00:40:34,098 -- AT NO TIME DID I BRING UP 1189 00:40:34,098 --> 00:40:35,733 ANYBODY RACE IN REGARDS TO THIS. 1190 00:40:35,733 --> 00:40:37,635 AS A BLACK MAN MYSELF, I 1191 00:40:37,635 --> 00:40:38,869 UNDERSTAND IT AS WELL. I DID NOT 1192 00:40:38,869 --> 00:40:43,007 SAY A RACE. THERE WAS A 1193 00:40:43,007 --> 00:40:43,607 POTENTIAL IDENTIFICATION OF A 1194 00:40:43,607 --> 00:40:46,310 PERSON WEARING A BLUE SHIRT 1195 00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:48,913 THAT, AS FAR AS I'LL GO WITH 1196 00:40:48,913 --> 00:40:49,113 THAT. 1197 00:40:49,113 --> 00:40:50,281 -- A BLUE SHIRT. ABOUT THREE 1198 00:40:50,281 --> 00:40:56,053 WEEKS AFTER THE THE THE 1199 00:40:56,053 --> 00:40:59,857 INCIDENT. THAT IS BETTER THAN 1200 00:40:59,857 --> 00:41:01,792 NOTHING. BUT AGAIN, FRAME IT 1201 00:41:01,792 --> 00:41:05,329 HOWEVER YOU WANT OR YOU NEED 1202 00:41:05,329 --> 00:41:08,666 PERSON OF INTEREST. THAT'S NOT 1203 00:41:08,666 --> 00:41:10,467 TOO CONDEMNING. LEGITIMATE 1204 00:41:10,467 --> 00:41:11,469 INVESTIGATORS WANT TO TALK WITH 1205 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:12,670 SOMEONE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE 1206 00:41:12,670 --> 00:41:14,271 INFORMATION. IT MAY OR MAY NOT 1207 00:41:14,271 --> 00:41:18,909 RISE TO THE LEVEL OF ARRESTS. 1208 00:41:18,909 --> 00:41:21,412 BUT IF THERE IS A PERSON OF 1209 00:41:21,412 --> 00:41:23,214 INTEREST, A POTENTIAL KILLER, 1210 00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:24,348 AGAIN, CHOOSE YOUR PREFERRED 1211 00:41:24,348 --> 00:41:27,284 FRAMING. THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO 1212 00:41:27,284 --> 00:41:29,687 KNOW THAT. MY HOPE AND MY 1213 00:41:29,687 --> 00:41:32,923 EXPECTATION FOR THE DEPARTMENT, 1214 00:41:32,923 --> 00:41:34,959 AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF 1215 00:41:34,959 --> 00:41:37,561 PEOPLE WORKING HARD BEHIND THE 1216 00:41:37,561 --> 00:41:41,265 SCENES TO TO POTENTIALLY HOLD. 1217 00:41:41,265 --> 00:41:43,501 ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS 1218 00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:45,236 ACCOUNTABLE TO THE EXTENT THEY 1219 00:41:45,236 --> 00:41:46,503 ARE INVOLVED IN THIS AND BRING 1220 00:41:46,503 --> 00:41:48,572 PEOPLE TO JUSTICE. THAT SAID, 1221 00:41:48,572 --> 00:41:52,142 THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW MORE 1222 00:41:52,142 --> 00:41:54,979 INFORMATION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL, 1223 00:41:54,979 --> 00:41:56,146 WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A 1224 00:41:56,146 --> 00:41:57,414 POTENTIAL KILLER OUT THERE ON 1225 00:41:57,414 --> 00:41:59,250 THE LOOSE. SO MY EXPECTATION FOR 1226 00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:00,784 THE DEPARTMENT IS THAT YOU BE AS 1227 00:42:00,784 --> 00:42:04,421 TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE ON THAT, 1228 00:42:04,421 --> 00:42:06,156 ON THAT FACT. 1229 00:42:06,156 --> 00:42:07,458 -- I'M TRYING TO BE AS 1230 00:42:07,458 --> 00:42:08,092 TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT 1231 00:42:08,092 --> 00:42:09,727 LOSING THE INTEGRITY OF THE 1232 00:42:09,727 --> 00:42:10,594 INVESTIGATION. AS MUCH AS I WANT 1233 00:42:10,594 --> 00:42:12,496 TO GIVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT 1234 00:42:12,496 --> 00:42:13,931 WE HAVE, AT THE SAME TIME THAT 1235 00:42:13,931 --> 00:42:15,699 WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN 1236 00:42:15,699 --> 00:42:17,134 INFORMATION IS PUT OUT THERE AND 1237 00:42:17,134 --> 00:42:19,904 IT EITHER GOING TO HELP US, THAT 1238 00:42:19,904 --> 00:42:22,206 SUSPECT PERSON OF INTEREST MAY 1239 00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:24,108 GET THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE 1240 00:42:24,108 --> 00:42:25,276 LET'S FACE IT, THEY DO WATCH 1241 00:42:25,276 --> 00:42:26,176 THE NEWS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE 1242 00:42:26,176 --> 00:42:27,778 AHEAD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. IT 1243 00:42:27,778 --> 00:42:28,946 GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO 1244 00:42:28,946 --> 00:42:30,180 LEAVE THIS AREA. AND THEN NOW 1245 00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:31,315 WE'RE GOING SEARCHING 1246 00:42:31,315 --> 00:42:33,050 THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY FOR THIS 1247 00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:34,818 INDIVIDUAL. I BELIEVE ONCE THE 1248 00:42:34,818 --> 00:42:36,620 SEARCH WARRANTS ARE SIGNED, WE 1249 00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:38,923 COLLECT THE INFORMATION, WE 1250 00:42:38,923 --> 00:42:40,824 IDENTIFY THE PERSON OF INTEREST 1251 00:42:40,824 --> 00:42:42,927 OR THE POTENTIAL SUSPECTS, THE 1252 00:42:42,927 --> 00:42:47,431 COMMUNITY HERE IN SEATTLE WILL 1253 00:42:47,431 --> 00:42:47,898 GET THAT INFORMATION. 1254 00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,334 -- WILL WHEN WILL SPD RELEASE AN 1255 00:42:50,334 --> 00:42:52,169 AFTER ACTION? A FORMAL AFTER 1256 00:42:52,169 --> 00:42:54,038 ACTION REPORT OF SOME SORT? 1257 00:42:54,038 --> 00:42:55,139 -- I WOULD SAY IN THE COMING 1258 00:42:55,139 --> 00:42:55,940 WEEKS. ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO 1259 00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:57,041 MEET WITH ALL THE COMMANDERS 1260 00:42:57,041 --> 00:42:58,609 THAT WAS ON SCENE, GET OUR 1261 00:42:58,609 --> 00:43:00,577 EXECUTIVE STAFF TOGETHER AND DO 1262 00:43:00,577 --> 00:43:04,148 A DEBRIEF. WE HAVE ONE OF OUR 1263 00:43:04,148 --> 00:43:04,815 ASSISTANT CHIEFS THAT'S OUT FOR 1264 00:43:04,815 --> 00:43:05,449 SOME PERSONAL THINGS. NOT GOING 1265 00:43:05,449 --> 00:43:06,483 TO GO IN HIS PERSONAL BUSINESS, 1266 00:43:06,483 --> 00:43:07,685 BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO 1267 00:43:07,685 --> 00:43:08,552 BE PUSHING FOR IN THE NEXT WEEK 1268 00:43:08,552 --> 00:43:09,853 OR SO. 1269 00:43:09,853 --> 00:43:12,423 -- THANK YOU. AND THAT TIMELINE 1270 00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:14,925 I SPOKE YESTERDAY WITH YOUR ONE 1271 00:43:14,925 --> 00:43:16,694 OF YOUR COUNTERPARTS FROM THE 1272 00:43:16,694 --> 00:43:18,329 FIRST RESPONDER PERSPECTIVE, 1273 00:43:18,329 --> 00:43:20,965 FIRE CHIEF SCOGGINS. AND HE 1274 00:43:20,965 --> 00:43:23,033 INDICATED THAT THE SEATTLE FIRE 1275 00:43:23,033 --> 00:43:24,335 DEPARTMENT, AFTER ACTION REPORT 1276 00:43:24,335 --> 00:43:25,970 ON THIS INCIDENT WILL BE 1277 00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:27,871 RELEASED IN A FEW WEEKS AS WELL 1278 00:43:27,871 --> 00:43:29,740 AND AGREE TO SHARE A COPY OF 1279 00:43:29,740 --> 00:43:31,742 THAT WITH ME IN MY OFFICE, WHICH 1280 00:43:31,742 --> 00:43:34,912 I APPRECIATE. I'LL ASK THE SAME 1281 00:43:34,912 --> 00:43:36,046 FROM YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT. 1282 00:43:36,046 --> 00:43:38,415 THAT SAID, NEXT QUESTION FOR I 1283 00:43:38,415 --> 00:43:40,818 THINK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. 1284 00:43:40,818 --> 00:43:41,619 DIRECTOR HOLCOMB, THIS IS 1285 00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:44,588 PROBABLY BEST TOWARDS YOU. SO WE 1286 00:43:44,588 --> 00:43:47,324 HAVE A NUMBER OF CITY 1287 00:43:47,324 --> 00:43:50,461 DEPARTMENTS INDIVIDUALLY 1288 00:43:50,461 --> 00:43:52,896 RELEASING THEIR OWN AFTER ACTION 1289 00:43:52,896 --> 00:43:54,598 REPORTS WITH RESPECT TO THE THE 1290 00:43:54,598 --> 00:43:58,302 ITEMS AND, YOU KNOW, MATTERS AND 1291 00:43:58,302 --> 00:44:01,071 SCOPE WITHIN THEIR IN THEIR KIND 1292 00:44:01,071 --> 00:44:03,674 OF REMIT. IS THERE A IS THERE A 1293 00:44:03,674 --> 00:44:07,311 PLANNED COORDINATED 1294 00:44:07,311 --> 00:44:08,145 INTER-DEPARTMENT COMPREHENSIVE 1295 00:44:08,145 --> 00:44:08,812 REPORT THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 1296 00:44:08,812 --> 00:44:11,015 IS COORDINATING TO BE RELEASED 1297 00:44:11,015 --> 00:44:17,655 THAT THAT CUTS ACROSS FIRE 1298 00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:19,023 POLICE CARE, EMERGENCY 1299 00:44:19,023 --> 00:44:19,890 MANAGEMENT, ET CETERA. IN TERMS 1300 00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:20,924 OF A FORMAL AFTER ACTION REPORT, 1301 00:44:20,924 --> 00:44:22,626 IS THERE SOMETHING BEING PLANNED 1302 00:44:22,626 --> 00:44:25,162 AND WHAT'S THE TIMING ON THAT? 1303 00:44:25,162 --> 00:44:26,864 -- THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR SAKA 1304 00:44:26,864 --> 00:44:28,866 YES, IS THE SHORT ANSWER. 1305 00:44:28,866 --> 00:44:29,666 MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS REQUESTED 1306 00:44:29,666 --> 00:44:32,036 THAT THE OFFICE OF THE 1307 00:44:32,036 --> 00:44:34,338 INDEPENDENT. EXCUSE ME. OFFICE 1308 00:44:34,338 --> 00:44:38,409 OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL CONDUCT 1309 00:44:38,409 --> 00:44:42,579 A THIRD PARTY OBJECTIVE REVIEW 1310 00:44:42,579 --> 00:44:44,581 OF SPECIFICALLY THE LACK OF 1311 00:44:44,581 --> 00:44:45,916 PUBLIC INFORMATION BEING PUSHED 1312 00:44:45,916 --> 00:44:47,785 OUT THAT EVENING. I THINK WE'VE 1313 00:44:47,785 --> 00:44:50,587 SEEN THROUGH MULTIPLE STORIES 1314 00:44:50,587 --> 00:44:51,789 LAST WEEK AND MEDIA COVERAGE OF 1315 00:44:51,789 --> 00:44:53,257 THE EVENTS OF THAT EVENING, THAT 1316 00:44:53,257 --> 00:44:55,426 THERE WAS CONFUSION AND 1317 00:44:55,426 --> 00:44:57,127 FRUSTRATION ABOUT NOT GETTING 1318 00:44:57,127 --> 00:44:58,762 ACCESS TO INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT 1319 00:44:58,762 --> 00:44:59,930 WAS HAPPENING AT THE CENTER. THE 1320 00:44:59,930 --> 00:45:01,965 MAYOR'S OFFICE BELIEVES THAT 1321 00:45:01,965 --> 00:45:02,666 RATHER THAN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, 1322 00:45:02,666 --> 00:45:05,569 TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT RATHER THAN 1323 00:45:05,569 --> 00:45:06,937 SPD TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT OR OEM 1324 00:45:06,937 --> 00:45:08,338 OR ANY OF THE OTHER CITY 1325 00:45:08,338 --> 00:45:11,041 DEPARTMENTS AND OFFICES THAT 1326 00:45:11,041 --> 00:45:13,710 ASKING THE OIG TO CONDUCT AN 1327 00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:14,645 INDEPENDENT REVIEW IS THE 1328 00:45:14,645 --> 00:45:17,548 APPROPRIATE WAY TO ADDRESS 1329 00:45:17,548 --> 00:45:18,849 WHATEVER SHORTFALLS THERE WERE 1330 00:45:18,849 --> 00:45:20,684 AND TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, IF 1331 00:45:20,684 --> 00:45:22,986 APPROPRIATE, ABOUT WHAT WE CAN 1332 00:45:22,986 --> 00:45:26,190 DO TO ENSURE THAT SIMILAR 1333 00:45:26,190 --> 00:45:27,524 FAILURES OF INFORMATION BEING 1334 00:45:27,524 --> 00:45:30,728 PUSHED OUT DO NOT OCCUR GOING 1335 00:45:30,728 --> 00:45:34,064 FORWARD. INSPECTOR GENERAL JUDGE 1336 00:45:34,064 --> 00:45:35,365 LISA JUDGE HAS INDICATED THAT 1337 00:45:35,365 --> 00:45:36,867 SHE WILL, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, 1338 00:45:36,867 --> 00:45:38,869 BRING IN EXPERTS ON MASS 1339 00:45:38,869 --> 00:45:41,338 SHOOTING EVENTS AND OTHER 1340 00:45:41,338 --> 00:45:43,006 SIMILAR TYPES OF EVENTS WHERE 1341 00:45:43,006 --> 00:45:44,808 THIS INFORMATION NEEDS TO GET 1342 00:45:44,808 --> 00:45:47,578 OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO ASSIST WITH 1343 00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:48,812 PRODUCING THAT REPORT. AND I 1344 00:45:48,812 --> 00:45:50,748 BELIEVE SHE'S LOOKING AT A FALL 1345 00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:53,016 RELEASE DATE FOR THE FINAL 1346 00:45:53,016 --> 00:45:54,685 REPORT THAT WILL COME HERE TO 1347 00:45:54,685 --> 00:45:57,054 THIS COMMITTEE AND BE PRESENTED 1348 00:45:57,054 --> 00:45:59,089 TO THE COMMITTEE AND ALSO 1349 00:45:59,089 --> 00:46:01,492 PUBLISHED ON THE OIG WEBSITE FOR 1350 00:46:01,492 --> 00:46:02,926 PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. 1351 00:46:02,926 --> 00:46:05,562 -- THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR 1352 00:46:05,562 --> 00:46:06,630 INDULGING ME. ANOTHER QUESTION 1353 00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:08,198 HERE, CHIEF. DO YOU BELIEVE 1354 00:46:08,198 --> 00:46:10,667 THERE WAS ADEQUATE POLICE 1355 00:46:10,667 --> 00:46:13,670 STAFFING AT THIS EVENT? 1356 00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:15,472 -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, I ALWAYS 1357 00:46:15,472 --> 00:46:16,206 THINK ABOUT WHAT WHAT IS 1358 00:46:16,206 --> 00:46:17,975 ADEQUATE AND HOW MANY OFFICERS 1359 00:46:17,975 --> 00:46:20,911 SHOULD YOU HAVE? I THINK IT'S AN 1360 00:46:20,911 --> 00:46:21,512 OPPORTUNITY FOR US WHEN WE DO 1361 00:46:21,512 --> 00:46:25,115 OUR DEBRIEF. WHAT IS A BASELINE 1362 00:46:25,115 --> 00:46:25,782 NUMBER? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE 1363 00:46:25,782 --> 00:46:29,119 AND HOW DO WE GET TO THAT? SO I 1364 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:31,755 CAN'T SAY WHAT AN ADEQUATE 1365 00:46:31,755 --> 00:46:33,524 NUMBER IS BECAUSE IT FLOWS. 1366 00:46:33,524 --> 00:46:35,192 IT'S EVER FLOWING. BUT WE NEED 1367 00:46:35,192 --> 00:46:39,763 TO LOOK AT WAYS TO UP STAFF. IF 1368 00:46:39,763 --> 00:46:41,999 WE CAN LOOK AT EVERY EVENT AS 1369 00:46:41,999 --> 00:46:44,301 THEIR OWN SEPARATE EVENT AND SEE 1370 00:46:44,301 --> 00:46:45,636 WHAT THE PAST RAMIFICATIONS OF 1371 00:46:45,636 --> 00:46:46,937 HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE COME 1372 00:46:46,937 --> 00:46:48,272 THROUGH THE GATES, DOORS, OR 1373 00:46:48,272 --> 00:46:49,506 WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE, AND WHAT 1374 00:46:49,506 --> 00:46:52,809 CAN WE ACTUALLY GIVE ADEQUATELY 1375 00:46:52,809 --> 00:46:54,878 GIVE AS A DEPARTMENT? 1376 00:46:54,878 --> 00:46:56,246 -- THANK YOU. I HEAR YOUR 1377 00:46:56,246 --> 00:46:58,182 RESPONSE IS MORE KIND OF FORWARD 1378 00:46:58,182 --> 00:46:59,683 LOOKING AND GENERIC APPLIED TO 1379 00:46:59,683 --> 00:47:02,286 OTHER POTENTIAL EVENTS IN THE 1380 00:47:02,286 --> 00:47:04,955 FUTURE. I'M TAKING UP A LOT OF 1381 00:47:04,955 --> 00:47:06,623 TIME, BUT I'LL JUST CLOSE BY 1382 00:47:06,623 --> 00:47:07,791 SAYING, I WOULD REALLY 1383 00:47:07,791 --> 00:47:11,094 APPRECIATE IF YOUR AFTER ACTION 1384 00:47:11,094 --> 00:47:13,030 REPORT ADDRESSES WHETHER AS IT 1385 00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:15,966 RELATES TO THIS SPECIFIC EVENT 1386 00:47:15,966 --> 00:47:16,500 AND THIS SPECIFIC CRISIS 1387 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:20,504 INCIDENT, WHETHER OR NOT YOU 1388 00:47:20,504 --> 00:47:21,438 BELIEVE IN HINDSIGHT, HINDSIGHT 1389 00:47:21,438 --> 00:47:23,440 IS ALWAYS 2020, WHETHER YOU 1390 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,475 BELIEVE THAT THERE SPD BELIEVES 1391 00:47:25,475 --> 00:47:26,844 THERE WAS ADEQUATE STAFFING OR 1392 00:47:26,844 --> 00:47:28,579 NOT. SO IN ANY EVENT, THANK YOU, 1393 00:47:28,579 --> 00:47:28,812 CHAIR. 1394 00:47:28,812 --> 00:47:30,714 -- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. I JUST 1395 00:47:30,714 --> 00:47:31,315 WANTED TO NOTE, LIKE YOUR 1396 00:47:31,315 --> 00:47:35,018 QUESTIONS ABOUT CAMERAS. I HAVE 1397 00:47:35,018 --> 00:47:37,654 A STATEMENT GOING OUT CALLING 1398 00:47:37,654 --> 00:47:39,389 FOR A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK FORWARD 1399 00:47:39,389 --> 00:47:39,923 MOVING FORWARD TO INCLUDE 1400 00:47:39,923 --> 00:47:40,891 CAMERAS, BUT ALSO IN OTHER AREAS 1401 00:47:40,891 --> 00:47:42,893 TOO, IN TERMS OF GUN VIOLENCE. 1402 00:47:42,893 --> 00:47:44,895 BUILDING ON WHAT WE'VE DONE IN 1403 00:47:44,895 --> 00:47:46,196 COMMUNITY ALREADY. PLUS, 1404 00:47:46,196 --> 00:47:46,830 OBVIOUSLY COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA 1405 00:47:46,830 --> 00:47:48,966 WORK IS ON TOP OF THAT FOR, YOU 1406 00:47:48,966 --> 00:47:50,567 KNOW, BRINGING ALL THESE 1407 00:47:50,567 --> 00:47:51,535 DIFFERENT PIECES AS IT RELATES 1408 00:47:51,535 --> 00:47:54,304 TO THIS ISSUE FORWARD. SO THAT 1409 00:47:54,304 --> 00:47:55,472 STATEMENT IS PROBABLY GOING OUT 1410 00:47:55,472 --> 00:47:58,408 RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR 1411 00:47:58,408 --> 00:48:00,410 QUESTIONS REGARDING I UNDERSTAND 1412 00:48:00,410 --> 00:48:01,345 THE INVESTIGATIONS PIECE, BUT 1413 00:48:01,345 --> 00:48:02,079 AGAIN, AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED 1414 00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:04,982 TO PRESS FORWARD. AND OBVIOUSLY, 1415 00:48:04,982 --> 00:48:06,149 THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT 1416 00:48:06,149 --> 00:48:07,618 TYPES OF INFORMATION OUT THERE 1417 00:48:07,618 --> 00:48:08,218 AND DEFINITELY BE GETTING THE 1418 00:48:08,218 --> 00:48:12,389 ARS. LIKE I SAID, SEPTEMBER 22nd 1419 00:48:12,389 --> 00:48:14,558 ON THE STAFFING QUESTION. I'M 1420 00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:15,325 INTERESTED IN THAT TOO. ON 1421 00:48:15,325 --> 00:48:16,226 SCENE, OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW WEST 1422 00:48:16,226 --> 00:48:17,394 PRECINCT OFFICERS THAT ARE THERE 1423 00:48:17,394 --> 00:48:18,996 THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN MY 1424 00:48:18,996 --> 00:48:19,930 DISTRICT AND OBVIOUSLY IN MY 1425 00:48:19,930 --> 00:48:22,633 ROLE AS CHAIR. BUT THEN THERE'S 1426 00:48:22,633 --> 00:48:24,668 ALSO THE CRG, THERE'S A SWAT, 1427 00:48:24,668 --> 00:48:25,836 YOU KNOW, IS IT A QUICK REACTION 1428 00:48:25,836 --> 00:48:28,138 FORCE TO THE ON SCENE, ALL THOSE 1429 00:48:28,138 --> 00:48:28,772 KINDS OF QUESTIONS. SO WE LOOK 1430 00:48:28,772 --> 00:48:31,375 FORWARD TO THAT. AND ONE LAST 1431 00:48:31,375 --> 00:48:33,343 QUESTION TOO IS TIED TO YOUR 1432 00:48:33,343 --> 00:48:34,111 COMMENTS. VICE CHAIRS. YOU KNOW, 1433 00:48:34,111 --> 00:48:36,446 IS THERE SOME TYPE OF SITUATION 1434 00:48:36,446 --> 00:48:37,748 ROOM? YOU KNOW, DID THE MAYOR 1435 00:48:37,748 --> 00:48:40,450 BRING DIFFERENT PEOPLE TOGETHER 1436 00:48:40,450 --> 00:48:42,452 TO, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH AND, 1437 00:48:42,452 --> 00:48:43,887 YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY, DO THEY 1438 00:48:43,887 --> 00:48:45,956 HAVE THEIR OWN CHECKLIST SIMILAR 1439 00:48:45,956 --> 00:48:48,125 TO THE TO THE SIMS? AND I'M NOT 1440 00:48:48,125 --> 00:48:49,660 SURE ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK 1441 00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:50,193 THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO 1442 00:48:50,193 --> 00:48:54,531 UNDERSTAND IS WHO WAS TALKING TO 1443 00:48:54,531 --> 00:48:56,867 THE MAYOR? WHERE WAS SHE? WERE 1444 00:48:56,867 --> 00:48:59,069 THEY CO-LOCATED? WERE THEY 1445 00:48:59,069 --> 00:49:00,904 SEPARATE? WAS THERE AGAIN A, A 1446 00:49:00,904 --> 00:49:02,539 PROTOCOLS THAT WERE WORKED 1447 00:49:02,539 --> 00:49:04,808 THROUGH IN TERMS OF HIGHLIGHTING 1448 00:49:04,808 --> 00:49:05,709 DIFFERENT PIECES? BECAUSE I 1449 00:49:05,709 --> 00:49:08,111 THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND I 1450 00:49:08,111 --> 00:49:08,745 THINK ABOUT THE SITUATION ROOM 1451 00:49:08,745 --> 00:49:10,180 KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE 1452 00:49:10,180 --> 00:49:11,348 EQUIVALENT FOR THE CITY. AND I 1453 00:49:11,348 --> 00:49:12,916 THINK THAT'S ANOTHER AREA THAT 1454 00:49:12,916 --> 00:49:15,118 WE CAN SPEAK TO ON SEPTEMBER 1455 00:49:15,118 --> 00:49:17,921 22nd. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER 1456 00:49:17,921 --> 00:49:19,623 JUAREZ. 1457 00:49:19,623 --> 00:49:20,857 -- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. FIRST 1458 00:49:20,857 --> 00:49:21,625 OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR. 1459 00:49:21,625 --> 00:49:24,027 -- BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR 1460 00:49:24,027 --> 00:49:26,063 SERVING AS THE INTERIM CHIEF. SO 1461 00:49:26,063 --> 00:49:27,898 I JUST WANT TO ASK SOME BASIC 1462 00:49:27,898 --> 00:49:29,599 QUESTIONS FROM THE INFORMATION, 1463 00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,134 AND I WILL I'LL GET TO ALLISON 1464 00:49:31,134 --> 00:49:32,669 AND YOU IN A MOMENT, BECAUSE WE 1465 00:49:32,669 --> 00:49:34,304 SPOKE YESTERDAY. AND I WANT TO 1466 00:49:34,304 --> 00:49:36,373 BE TRANSPARENT AND HONEST AND 1467 00:49:36,373 --> 00:49:39,209 CLEAR ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS 1468 00:49:39,209 --> 00:49:39,810 THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE JULY 1469 00:49:39,810 --> 00:49:43,080 26th, THAT SUNDAY WHEN THERE WAS 1470 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,247 THE SHOOTING, CHIEF BARNES WAS 1471 00:49:44,247 --> 00:49:46,650 NOT THERE, AS WE KNOW. HE WAS IN 1472 00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,618 TEXAS. CHIEF DEPUTY UNDERWOOD 1473 00:49:48,618 --> 00:49:51,088 WAS NOT THERE. HE WAS ON 1474 00:49:51,088 --> 00:49:52,589 VACATION. INTERIM CHIEF ANDRE 1475 00:49:52,589 --> 00:49:54,791 SAYLES, THAT'S YOU. YOU WERE 1476 00:49:54,791 --> 00:49:57,127 NOT THERE. YOU WERE ON VACATION. 1477 00:49:57,127 --> 00:49:57,761 AND NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. I 1478 00:49:57,761 --> 00:49:58,295 JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I 1479 00:49:58,295 --> 00:49:58,996 UNDERSTAND. AND IF I'M IF I'M 1480 00:49:58,996 --> 00:50:01,965 WRONG, PLEASE CORRECT ME. MY 1481 00:50:01,965 --> 00:50:02,599 UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ASSISTANT 1482 00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:06,236 CHIEF TYRONE DAVIS WAS PRESENT. 1483 00:50:06,236 --> 00:50:07,604 HE'S NOT HERE TODAY, AND MY 1484 00:50:07,604 --> 00:50:08,905 UNDERSTANDING, I JUST LEARNED IS 1485 00:50:08,905 --> 00:50:09,573 THAT CAPTAIN WARD, YOU WERE 1486 00:50:09,573 --> 00:50:12,442 ACTUALLY ON SITE ON JULY 26th, 1487 00:50:12,442 --> 00:50:12,709 CORRECT? 1488 00:50:12,709 --> 00:50:14,277 -- YES, MA'AM. I RESPONDED FROM 1489 00:50:14,277 --> 00:50:14,478 HOME. 1490 00:50:14,478 --> 00:50:15,312 -- AND OF COURSE YOU'RE HERE 1491 00:50:15,312 --> 00:50:16,813 TODAY. 1492 00:50:16,813 --> 00:50:17,247 -- YES. 1493 00:50:17,247 --> 00:50:19,316 -- MA'AM. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND 1494 00:50:19,316 --> 00:50:20,450 THAT DETECTIVE BRIAN PRITCHARD 1495 00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:21,685 WAS ALSO ON SITE. CORRECT. 1496 00:50:21,685 --> 00:50:23,153 -- AS PART OF OUR PUBLIC 1497 00:50:23,153 --> 00:50:24,021 RELATIONS UNIT. HE WAS CALLED 1498 00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:26,823 OUT AS WELL. 1499 00:50:26,823 --> 00:50:29,626 -- OKAY. AND HE IS NOT HERE 1500 00:50:29,626 --> 00:50:29,860 TODAY? 1501 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,428 -- NO, MA'AM. 1502 00:50:31,428 --> 00:50:32,028 -- AND WE REQUESTED HIM TO BE 1503 00:50:32,028 --> 00:50:35,599 HERE TODAY. CORRECT. ALLISON. 1504 00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:35,932 MISS HOLCOMB. 1505 00:50:35,932 --> 00:50:37,034 -- YOU INDICATED TO ME THAT YOU 1506 00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:39,770 WANTED HIM HERE. I BELIEVE THAT 1507 00:50:39,770 --> 00:50:42,205 CHAIR KETTLE HAD THE SIMILAR 1508 00:50:42,205 --> 00:50:44,708 CONVERSATION WITH INTERIM CHIEF 1509 00:50:44,708 --> 00:50:46,043 SAYLES EARLIER YESTERDAY 1510 00:50:46,043 --> 00:50:48,545 MORNING. AND CHIEF SAYLES 1511 00:50:48,545 --> 00:50:49,279 EXPLAINED TO COUNCILMEMBER 1512 00:50:49,279 --> 00:50:53,016 KETTLE THAT DETECTIVE PRITCHARD 1513 00:50:53,016 --> 00:50:53,350 WAS NOT HERE. 1514 00:50:53,350 --> 00:50:55,685 -- OKAY. SO LET ME JUST GO BACK 1515 00:50:55,685 --> 00:50:57,120 BECAUSE. AND I'LL I'LL I'LL 1516 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,389 LOOP BACK TO WHY. AND I'M GLAD 1517 00:50:59,389 --> 00:51:02,092 YOU'RE HERE. ALLISON OR MISS 1518 00:51:02,092 --> 00:51:03,994 HOLCOMB. WE HAD STARTED 1519 00:51:03,994 --> 00:51:05,028 CONVERSATIONS LAST THURSDAY AND 1520 00:51:05,028 --> 00:51:06,730 FRIDAY WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 1521 00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:08,565 ASKING TO TALK ABOUT THE FIVE 1522 00:51:08,565 --> 00:51:09,666 HOUR DELAY. THAT'S THE ELEPHANT 1523 00:51:09,666 --> 00:51:12,035 IN THE ROOM. SO I JUST WANT TO 1524 00:51:12,035 --> 00:51:12,736 IF I CAN JUST GET THROUGH THIS 1525 00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:14,871 LITANY AND THEN PLEASE, IF I'M 1526 00:51:14,871 --> 00:51:16,006 INCORRECT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 1527 00:51:16,006 --> 00:51:18,341 JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS WATCHING 1528 00:51:18,341 --> 00:51:19,709 AS THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, WE 1529 00:51:19,709 --> 00:51:22,712 HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE 1530 00:51:22,712 --> 00:51:23,747 INTEGRITY, TRANSPARENCY AND 1531 00:51:23,747 --> 00:51:25,348 HONESTY. SO I THINK IT'S 1532 00:51:25,348 --> 00:51:27,684 IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE ONLY 1533 00:51:27,684 --> 00:51:28,985 PERSON WHO WAS ON SITE AND HERE 1534 00:51:28,985 --> 00:51:30,987 TODAY IS CAPTAIN WARD. YES, 1535 00:51:30,987 --> 00:51:36,259 MA'AM. SO THANK YOU. SO WHAT I 1536 00:51:36,259 --> 00:51:36,893 UNDERSTAND IS FROM HEARING FROM 1537 00:51:36,893 --> 00:51:39,429 YOU, INTERIM CHIEF, IS THAT YOU 1538 00:51:39,429 --> 00:51:40,864 HAD A GREAT COMMAND STAFF 1539 00:51:40,864 --> 00:51:42,666 PRESENT, THAT YOU HAD 200 1540 00:51:42,666 --> 00:51:45,202 PERSONNEL ON SCENE AND 1541 00:51:45,202 --> 00:51:47,337 RESPONDING, THAT YOU HAD THE 1542 00:51:47,337 --> 00:51:48,238 SWAT TEAM AND THAT IN YOUR 1543 00:51:48,238 --> 00:51:49,673 WORDS, IT WAS CHAOTIC AND 1544 00:51:49,673 --> 00:51:54,644 TRAUMATIC. CORRECT. SO MY 1545 00:51:54,644 --> 00:51:55,178 UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE 1546 00:51:55,178 --> 00:51:58,248 SHOOTING OCCURRED BETWEEN 610 1547 00:51:58,248 --> 00:52:02,552 AND 618. 1548 00:52:02,552 --> 00:52:04,454 -- IN BETWEEN LIKE SIX AND 605. 1549 00:52:04,454 --> 00:52:04,721 CORRECT? 1550 00:52:04,721 --> 00:52:08,592 -- CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. AND GIVE 1551 00:52:08,592 --> 00:52:10,694 OR TAKE HALF AN HOUR HERE OR 1552 00:52:10,694 --> 00:52:11,995 THERE, FIVE HOURS PASSED AND WE 1553 00:52:11,995 --> 00:52:14,865 HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE. CORRECT? 1554 00:52:14,865 --> 00:52:15,098 -- YES. 1555 00:52:15,098 --> 00:52:15,899 -- AND YOU WERE NOT AT THAT 1556 00:52:15,899 --> 00:52:16,299 PRESS CONFERENCE. 1557 00:52:16,299 --> 00:52:16,566 -- I WAS. 1558 00:52:16,566 --> 00:52:18,301 -- NOT OKAY. BUT YOU WERE IN 1559 00:52:18,301 --> 00:52:18,869 CONTACT WITH CHIEF BARNES. 1560 00:52:18,869 --> 00:52:20,437 -- YES, AYE. 1561 00:52:20,437 --> 00:52:21,972 -- WAS ALL RIGHT. SO YOU WENT 1562 00:52:21,972 --> 00:52:23,106 THROUGH AND AS THE CHAIR YOU 1563 00:52:23,106 --> 00:52:24,708 WENT THROUGH, AND I'VE SEEN A 1564 00:52:24,708 --> 00:52:26,209 COPY OF IT WITH THE ACTIVE 1565 00:52:26,209 --> 00:52:29,146 SHOOTER INCIDENT MANAGEMENT 1566 00:52:29,146 --> 00:52:30,213 CHECKLIST, MY UNDERSTANDING IS 1567 00:52:30,213 --> 00:52:31,848 EVERY PROTOCOL AND I LEARNED 1568 00:52:31,848 --> 00:52:33,717 THIS ACTUALLY FROM CHIEF BEST AS 1569 00:52:33,717 --> 00:52:35,252 WELL. AND I ALSO UNDERSTOOD IT 1570 00:52:35,252 --> 00:52:36,520 FROM CHIEF BARNES. LIKE THIS IS 1571 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,654 THE PROTOCOL. THIS IS WHAT WE 1572 00:52:37,654 --> 00:52:40,056 DO. WE'RE ALL TRAINED IN IT. 1573 00:52:40,056 --> 00:52:41,858 IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE A 1574 00:52:41,858 --> 00:52:43,093 CHIEF OR A DEPUTY CHIEF NOT BE 1575 00:52:43,093 --> 00:52:44,528 PRESENT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T 1576 00:52:44,528 --> 00:52:45,562 ALWAYS BE THERE. AND THAT'S WHY 1577 00:52:45,562 --> 00:52:47,230 YOU HAVE A PROTOCOL THAT 1578 00:52:47,230 --> 00:52:48,231 EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND 1579 00:52:48,231 --> 00:52:49,533 THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN 1580 00:52:49,533 --> 00:52:50,734 THERE'S AN ACTIVE SHOOTER. IS 1581 00:52:50,734 --> 00:52:53,170 THAT CORRECT? YES. ALL RIGHT. SO 1582 00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:57,173 HERE WE GO WITH THE ELEPHANT IN 1583 00:52:57,173 --> 00:52:59,042 THE ROOM. WE HAVE A SHOOTING. WE 1584 00:52:59,042 --> 00:53:02,345 HAVE A FIVE HOUR DELAY. THREE 1585 00:53:02,345 --> 00:53:04,147 PEOPLE LOSE THEIR LIVES. WE HAVE 1586 00:53:04,147 --> 00:53:07,918 AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS MASS 1587 00:53:07,918 --> 00:53:10,320 HYSTERIA. WE HAVE PEOPLE 1588 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,522 SHELTERING IN PLACE. WE HAVE 1589 00:53:12,522 --> 00:53:13,023 VENDORS HIDING, PEOPLE 1590 00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:13,757 SHELTERING AT THE ARMORY, THE 1591 00:53:13,757 --> 00:53:17,093 PACIFIC SCIENCE CENTER. WE HAVE 1592 00:53:17,093 --> 00:53:18,828 ONE SUSPECT APPREHENDED. WE HAVE 1593 00:53:18,828 --> 00:53:21,197 ONE AT LARGE. WE LEARN THREE 1594 00:53:21,197 --> 00:53:22,966 DAYS LATER THAT THERE'S MORE 1595 00:53:22,966 --> 00:53:25,001 THAN ONE SUSPECT. WE HAVE A 1596 00:53:25,001 --> 00:53:26,636 POLICE CHIEF THAT WAS ASKED TO 1597 00:53:26,636 --> 00:53:30,440 RESIGN. AND HERE WE ARE TODAY 1598 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,009 LAST WEEK WE WERE ASKING, AND I 1599 00:53:33,009 --> 00:53:35,045 WAS WORKING WITH AND TALKING TO 1600 00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:37,280 CHAIR KETTLE AND SOME OTHER 1601 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,782 FOLKS, WHAT THIS PUBLIC SAFETY 1602 00:53:38,782 --> 00:53:40,617 HEARING WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND I 1603 00:53:40,617 --> 00:53:43,553 WAS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH 1604 00:53:43,553 --> 00:53:44,521 MISS HOLCOMB, AND I GAVE HER A 1605 00:53:44,521 --> 00:53:45,488 CALL YESTERDAY AT ONE AND SAID, 1606 00:53:45,488 --> 00:53:46,690 THESE ARE THE THESE ARE THE 1607 00:53:46,690 --> 00:53:51,628 FACTS AS I KNOW THEM. AND THEN 1608 00:53:51,628 --> 00:53:52,762 YESTERDAY AT ABOUT 615, WE ALL 1609 00:53:52,762 --> 00:53:54,497 GOT A TEXT SAYING, WE'RE GOING 1610 00:53:54,497 --> 00:53:57,067 TO OPEN, I BELIEVE YOU CALLED IT 1611 00:53:57,067 --> 00:53:58,668 AN INDEPENDENT. WHAT WAS THE 1612 00:53:58,668 --> 00:54:00,737 TERM THAT YOU USED? I USED 1613 00:54:00,737 --> 00:54:02,138 INVESTIGATION, BUT YOU USED THE 1614 00:54:02,138 --> 00:54:04,274 TERM INDEPENDENT REVIEW, 1615 00:54:04,274 --> 00:54:06,743 CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO WHY 1616 00:54:06,743 --> 00:54:08,044 ARE WE DOING WHY ARE WE DOING 1617 00:54:08,044 --> 00:54:10,246 THAT NOW? WHY ARE WE NOTIFIED 1618 00:54:10,246 --> 00:54:13,383 YESTERDAY AT 620 AFTER 1619 00:54:13,383 --> 00:54:15,819 EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED AND 1620 00:54:15,819 --> 00:54:17,253 NOT ALLOWING MR. PRITCHARD TO BE 1621 00:54:17,253 --> 00:54:19,255 HERE TODAY, THAT NOW WE'RE GOING 1622 00:54:19,255 --> 00:54:21,558 TO DO AN INDEPENDENT 1623 00:54:21,558 --> 00:54:22,292 INVESTIGATION, AND THEN I'LL 1624 00:54:22,292 --> 00:54:25,028 COME BACK TO THE TIMING ON THAT. 1625 00:54:25,028 --> 00:54:29,633 -- SO THE DECISION TO DO AN 1626 00:54:29,633 --> 00:54:30,266 INDEPENDENT AFTER ACTION REVIEW 1627 00:54:30,266 --> 00:54:33,136 OF HOW HOW INFORMATION WAS 1628 00:54:33,136 --> 00:54:35,238 TRANSMITTED TO THE PUBLIC 1629 00:54:35,238 --> 00:54:36,139 -- IS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE 1630 00:54:36,139 --> 00:54:38,208 OVER A WEEK AGO, AND I HAVE BEEN 1631 00:54:38,208 --> 00:54:41,011 INCONSISTENT AND REPEATED 1632 00:54:41,011 --> 00:54:43,913 CONVERSATION WITH PUBLIC SAFETY 1633 00:54:43,913 --> 00:54:44,547 COMMITTEE CHAIR BOB KETTLE ABOUT 1634 00:54:44,547 --> 00:54:47,984 THAT DECISION. THE FACT THAT WE 1635 00:54:47,984 --> 00:54:48,618 ANNOUNCED IT YESTERDAY WAS DUE 1636 00:54:48,618 --> 00:54:50,987 TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN IN 1637 00:54:50,987 --> 00:54:51,554 CONVERSATION WITH INSPECTOR 1638 00:54:51,554 --> 00:54:55,258 GENERAL LISA JUDGE TO WORK OUT 1639 00:54:55,258 --> 00:54:56,359 THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED 1640 00:54:56,359 --> 00:54:57,494 TO BE ABLE TO SAY, TO SEE 1641 00:54:57,494 --> 00:54:59,262 WHETHER OR NOT SHE ALREADY HAD 1642 00:54:59,262 --> 00:55:00,363 PARTICULAR EXPERTS IN MIND THAT 1643 00:55:00,363 --> 00:55:02,565 SHE WANTED TO CONDUCT THE 1644 00:55:02,565 --> 00:55:05,568 REVIEW. AND SO WE DID. WE ROLLED 1645 00:55:05,568 --> 00:55:08,471 OUT THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF 1646 00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:09,939 THAT DECISION YESTERDAY. BUT 1647 00:55:09,939 --> 00:55:10,974 CHAIR KETTLE HAS BEEN AWARE OF, 1648 00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:13,209 AND IN CONVERSATION WITH ME 1649 00:55:13,209 --> 00:55:14,844 ABOUT THIS INTENDED PLAN FOR A 1650 00:55:14,844 --> 00:55:15,712 WEEK. 1651 00:55:15,712 --> 00:55:17,947 -- OKAY. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. 1652 00:55:17,947 --> 00:55:19,449 BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION 1653 00:55:19,449 --> 00:55:21,518 YESTERDAY. AND IF I'M INCORRECT 1654 00:55:21,518 --> 00:55:23,019 AND I CAN CALL YOU ALISON, 1655 00:55:23,019 --> 00:55:25,088 THAT'S FINE. 1656 00:55:25,088 --> 00:55:25,422 -- THANK YOU. 1657 00:55:25,422 --> 00:55:26,489 -- BECAUSE I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I 1658 00:55:26,489 --> 00:55:27,691 JUST DON'T I DON'T WANT TO DO 1659 00:55:27,691 --> 00:55:29,059 A GOTCHA MOMENT. I'M NOT TRYING 1660 00:55:29,059 --> 00:55:30,493 TO HUMILIATE ANYBODY. I JUST 1661 00:55:30,493 --> 00:55:33,563 WANT TO UNDERSTAND. SO IN OUR 1662 00:55:33,563 --> 00:55:34,898 CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, YOU 1663 00:55:34,898 --> 00:55:36,032 STATED THAT THE MAYOR DOES 1664 00:55:36,032 --> 00:55:38,668 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE WAS A 1665 00:55:38,668 --> 00:55:39,169 COMMUNICATION PROBLEM. 1666 00:55:39,169 --> 00:55:40,336 -- YES. I THINK SHE'S PUBLICLY 1667 00:55:40,336 --> 00:55:41,671 STATED THAT. AND THAT'S INCLUDED 1668 00:55:41,671 --> 00:55:43,506 IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WAS 1669 00:55:43,506 --> 00:55:45,475 PUBLISHED ON HER BLOG YESTERDAY. 1670 00:55:45,475 --> 00:55:47,644 -- AND THE COMMUNICATION PROBLEM 1671 00:55:47,644 --> 00:55:49,579 WAS BETWEEN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 1672 00:55:49,579 --> 00:55:52,282 AND SPD 1673 00:55:52,282 --> 00:55:54,250 -- WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE 1674 00:55:54,250 --> 00:55:54,818 COMMUNICATION PROBLEM WAS. 1675 00:55:54,818 --> 00:55:56,052 THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE WANT THE 1676 00:55:56,052 --> 00:55:58,054 INSPECTOR GENERAL TO CONDUCT 1677 00:55:58,054 --> 00:55:59,923 THIS. AFTER ACTION REVIEW. WE 1678 00:55:59,923 --> 00:56:05,095 WILL BE PRODUCING ALL TEXTS. WE 1679 00:56:05,095 --> 00:56:05,695 WILL BE ASKING. WE HAVE ASKED 1680 00:56:05,695 --> 00:56:08,465 ALL CITY DEPARTMENT AND OFFICE 1681 00:56:08,465 --> 00:56:09,999 STAFF TO PARTICIPATE IN 1682 00:56:09,999 --> 00:56:12,635 INTERVIEWS TO MAKE SURE THAT AN 1683 00:56:12,635 --> 00:56:13,203 INDEPENDENT PARTY CAN PIECE 1684 00:56:13,203 --> 00:56:15,438 TOGETHER A TIMELINE FROM THE 1685 00:56:15,438 --> 00:56:16,906 MULTIPLE CHANNELS OF 1686 00:56:16,906 --> 00:56:17,407 COMMUNICATION THAT WERE 1687 00:56:17,407 --> 00:56:22,345 HAPPENING THAT EVENING, AND FIND 1688 00:56:22,345 --> 00:56:24,714 OUT WHERE IF THERE WERE, IN 1689 00:56:24,714 --> 00:56:27,016 FACT, DROPPED CALLS, DROPPED 1690 00:56:27,016 --> 00:56:28,952 COMMUNICATIONS, FAILURE TO 1691 00:56:28,952 --> 00:56:30,854 FOLLOW PROTOCOLS. WHERE EXACTLY 1692 00:56:30,854 --> 00:56:32,188 DID THIS BREAKDOWN HAPPEN? AND 1693 00:56:32,188 --> 00:56:34,924 WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENSURE THAT IT 1694 00:56:34,924 --> 00:56:36,092 DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN? THAT'S 1695 00:56:36,092 --> 00:56:37,293 THE PURPOSE OF THIS AUDIT. I 1696 00:56:37,293 --> 00:56:38,161 DON'T THINK ANY ONE OF THE 1697 00:56:38,161 --> 00:56:39,796 THREE OF US AT THE TABLE HAS A 1698 00:56:39,796 --> 00:56:41,331 FULL PICTURE OF WHAT HAPPENED 1699 00:56:41,331 --> 00:56:43,199 SUNDAY. I KNOW I DON'T BECAUSE I 1700 00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:45,568 WAS TRYING MY HARDEST TO PUSH 1701 00:56:45,568 --> 00:56:46,770 INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE. I 1702 00:56:46,770 --> 00:56:48,238 THOUGHT I NEEDED TO BE PUSHING 1703 00:56:48,238 --> 00:56:49,506 INFORMATION OUT TO, BUT I'M ONE 1704 00:56:49,506 --> 00:56:52,976 PERSON. AND AS CHIEF SALES HAS 1705 00:56:52,976 --> 00:56:54,411 ALREADY INDICATED, THERE WERE 1706 00:56:54,411 --> 00:56:54,978 DOZENS OF PEOPLE THAT WERE 1707 00:56:54,978 --> 00:56:56,179 TRYING TO COORDINATE 1708 00:56:56,179 --> 00:56:57,680 COMMUNICATION, ENSURE THAT 1709 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,116 PUBLIC SAFETY CAME FIRST. 1710 00:57:00,116 --> 00:57:04,187 -- SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME THE 1711 00:57:04,187 --> 00:57:06,523 SPD AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, 1712 00:57:06,523 --> 00:57:08,925 ALONG WITH THE GOVERNOR AND 1713 00:57:08,925 --> 00:57:09,559 CONGRESSWOMAN PRAMILA JAYAPAL? 1714 00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:11,728 DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME THAT PRESS 1715 00:57:11,728 --> 00:57:12,095 CONFERENCE WAS? 1716 00:57:12,095 --> 00:57:16,332 -- I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY. IT 1717 00:57:16,332 --> 00:57:20,003 WAS SOMETIME AFTER 945 WHEN THAT 1718 00:57:20,003 --> 00:57:20,570 PRESS CONFERENCE CONDUCTED. 1719 00:57:20,570 --> 00:57:22,038 -- SO THE SHOOTING HAPPENED AT 1720 00:57:22,038 --> 00:57:24,607 610, 615. THE FIRST PRESS 1721 00:57:24,607 --> 00:57:26,876 CONFERENCE IS AT NINE, 1722 00:57:26,876 --> 00:57:29,212 APPROXIMATELY 945. 1723 00:57:29,212 --> 00:57:30,513 -- I THINK THAT THAT'S RIGHT. 1724 00:57:30,513 --> 00:57:31,815 BUT I DEFER TO. CAPTAIN WARD WAS 1725 00:57:31,815 --> 00:57:32,248 ON THE. 1726 00:57:32,248 --> 00:57:32,849 -- GROUND A LITTLE LATER THAN 1727 00:57:32,849 --> 00:57:33,349 THAT, MA'AM. 1728 00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:34,317 -- IT WAS LATER THAN THAT. 1729 00:57:34,317 --> 00:57:36,686 -- IT WAS. YES, IT WAS LATER. 1730 00:57:36,686 --> 00:57:37,353 -- CAN I HEAR FROM CAPTAIN WARD, 1731 00:57:37,353 --> 00:57:40,056 SIR? WHAT TIME DO YOU THINK IT 1732 00:57:40,056 --> 00:57:40,490 WAS APPROXIMATELY? 1733 00:57:40,490 --> 00:57:40,990 -- I DON'T HAVE. 1734 00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:42,025 -- IF YOU DON'T HAVE, IT'S 1735 00:57:42,025 --> 00:57:42,725 OKAY. I'M NOT GOING TO. WE'RE 1736 00:57:42,725 --> 00:57:44,694 NOT IN A COURT. YOU'RE NOT 1737 00:57:44,694 --> 00:57:45,295 UNDER SWORN TESTIMONY. I JUST 1738 00:57:45,295 --> 00:57:47,130 I'M TRYING TO GET AN IDEA. 1739 00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:49,065 -- MY BEST ESTIMATION WAS CLOSER 1740 00:57:49,065 --> 00:57:49,332 TO 11:00. 1741 00:57:49,332 --> 00:57:56,873 -- OKAY SO. WAS THE PRESS 1742 00:57:56,873 --> 00:57:58,274 CONFERENCE THAT WAS DONE AROUND 1743 00:57:58,274 --> 00:58:00,543 11 ISH OR. THAT'S APPROXIMATE. 1744 00:58:00,543 --> 00:58:04,347 I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU TO 1745 00:58:04,347 --> 00:58:05,415 THAT. OBVIOUSLY. WAS IT DELAYED 1746 00:58:05,415 --> 00:58:09,485 WAITING FOR DIGNITARIES? 1747 00:58:09,485 --> 00:58:12,055 -- I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. 1748 00:58:12,055 --> 00:58:12,655 -- WERE YOU IN COMMUNICATION 1749 00:58:12,655 --> 00:58:15,458 WITH BRIAN PRITCHARD, YOUR PIO. 1750 00:58:15,458 --> 00:58:15,925 DETECTIVE PRITCHARD? 1751 00:58:15,925 --> 00:58:16,960 -- I WASN'T I DIDN'T HAVE 1752 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,394 DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH HIM. 1753 00:58:18,394 --> 00:58:19,996 AND I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR. 1754 00:58:19,996 --> 00:58:21,965 AS THE INCIDENT COMMANDER. I WAS 1755 00:58:21,965 --> 00:58:24,200 ENGROSSED IN THE OPERATIONS OF 1756 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,302 WHAT WAS OCCURRING. THIS 1757 00:58:26,302 --> 00:58:26,903 INCIDENT NEVER ALLOWED US THE 1758 00:58:26,903 --> 00:58:28,538 OPPORTUNITY TO PLATEAU. WE 1759 00:58:28,538 --> 00:58:30,273 CONSTANTLY HAD ONE CHALLENGE 1760 00:58:30,273 --> 00:58:31,541 AFTER THE OTHER. AND I WILL SAY 1761 00:58:31,541 --> 00:58:36,412 THAT THE ACTIVE SEARCH AT THE 1762 00:58:36,412 --> 00:58:37,914 IMAX THEATER TOOK PLACE VERY 1763 00:58:37,914 --> 00:58:39,749 CLOSE UP TO THE POINT WHERE THAT 1764 00:58:39,749 --> 00:58:42,452 PRESS CONFERENCE OCCURRED. SO 1765 00:58:42,452 --> 00:58:45,021 THERE. ONCE WE RECEIVED WORD 1766 00:58:45,021 --> 00:58:47,023 THAT SWAT HAD CLEARED THE IMAX, 1767 00:58:47,023 --> 00:58:48,157 I COMMUNICATED THAT TO CHIEF 1768 00:58:48,157 --> 00:58:49,058 DAVIS, WHO WAS ON SCENE, AND 1769 00:58:49,058 --> 00:58:50,193 I'D LIKE TO CIRCLE BACK IF I 1770 00:58:50,193 --> 00:58:52,061 COULD. WE ALSO HAD THE ACTING 1771 00:58:52,061 --> 00:58:53,763 CHIEF OF PATROL, GEORGE DAVISON, 1772 00:58:53,763 --> 00:58:57,166 ON SCENE AS WELL. SO WE HAD 1773 00:58:57,166 --> 00:58:58,501 CHIEF DAVIS, WHO WAS THE ACTING 1774 00:58:58,501 --> 00:59:00,970 CHIEF OF POLICE, AND THEN WE HAD 1775 00:59:00,970 --> 00:59:02,839 THE CHIEF OF PATROL, GEORGE 1776 00:59:02,839 --> 00:59:04,941 DAVISON, ON SCENE. AND THEN I 1777 00:59:04,941 --> 00:59:06,476 WAS THERE AS THE INCIDENT 1778 00:59:06,476 --> 00:59:09,445 COMMANDER. SO WE COMMUNICATED 1779 00:59:09,445 --> 00:59:10,346 THAT INFORMATION THAT THE IMAX 1780 00:59:10,346 --> 00:59:13,750 HAD BEEN CLEARED TO CHIEF DAVIS. 1781 00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:14,851 AND AT THAT POINT, I'M NOT SURE 1782 00:59:14,851 --> 00:59:16,352 WHAT OTHER COMMUNICATION TOOK 1783 00:59:16,352 --> 00:59:21,591 PLACE OR OTHER CONVERSATIONS. 1784 00:59:21,591 --> 00:59:22,592 THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO 1785 00:59:22,592 --> 00:59:24,360 CLARIFY THAT TIMELINE. I HOPE 1786 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:24,861 THAT THAT'S HELPFUL. 1787 00:59:24,861 --> 00:59:26,262 -- NO, IT IS HELPFUL BECAUSE 1788 00:59:26,262 --> 00:59:30,033 YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON HERE 1789 00:59:30,033 --> 00:59:31,067 THAT WAS THERE ON JULY 26th, ON 1790 00:59:31,067 --> 00:59:33,937 THE GROUND AND IN FRONT OF US. 1791 00:59:33,937 --> 00:59:34,570 WE ASKED THAT MR. PRITCHARD BE 1792 00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:36,940 HERE. HE'S NOT HERE. I 1793 00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:38,875 UNDERSTAND THAT, CHIEF TYRONE 1794 00:59:38,875 --> 00:59:42,478 DAVIS WAS PRESENT ON SITE. HE'S 1795 00:59:42,478 --> 00:59:43,746 NOT HERE. I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW. 1796 00:59:43,746 --> 00:59:45,148 THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WANTS TO DO 1797 00:59:45,148 --> 00:59:47,150 AN OIG INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION 1798 00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:48,851 OR INDEPENDENT REVIEW. WE 1799 00:59:48,851 --> 00:59:51,020 LEARNED THAT YESTERDAY. QUITE 1800 00:59:51,020 --> 00:59:52,322 FRANKLY, I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC 1801 00:59:52,322 --> 00:59:54,324 DESERVES TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, 1802 00:59:54,324 --> 00:59:56,192 AND WE SHOULD NOT WAIT UNTIL MID 1803 00:59:56,192 --> 00:59:57,193 SEPTEMBER. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE 1804 00:59:57,193 --> 00:59:58,728 SAYING? THIS MAY COME OUT. 1805 00:59:58,728 --> 01:00:00,830 -- WE AGREE 100% THAT THE PUBLIC 1806 01:00:00,830 --> 01:00:04,100 DESERVE TO DESERVES TO KNOW WHAT 1807 01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:05,268 HAPPENED. AND WE WANT TO MAKE 1808 01:00:05,268 --> 01:00:08,037 SURE THAT THEY HAVE THOROUGH 1809 01:00:08,037 --> 01:00:09,739 INVESTIGATION OF WHAT HAPPENED. 1810 01:00:09,739 --> 01:00:12,075 SO THE TIME THAT IT'S GOING TO 1811 01:00:12,075 --> 01:00:14,377 TAKE IS WHAT INSPECTOR GENERAL 1812 01:00:14,377 --> 01:00:16,579 LISA JUDGE BELIEVES WE NEED IN 1813 01:00:16,579 --> 01:00:18,815 ORDER TO CONDUCT THAT THOROUGH 1814 01:00:18,815 --> 01:00:19,649 REVIEW OF ALL ACTIONS FROM THAT 1815 01:00:19,649 --> 01:00:21,517 EVENING. 1816 01:00:21,517 --> 01:00:22,452 -- SO I'M GOING TO SUBMIT TO 1817 01:00:22,452 --> 01:00:25,088 YOU, ALLISON, AND WE BOTH KNOW 1818 01:00:25,088 --> 01:00:25,989 HOW THIS WORKS. I DON'T THINK WE 1819 01:00:25,989 --> 01:00:28,358 NEED AN INVESTIGATION. I THINK 1820 01:00:28,358 --> 01:00:30,159 YOU COULD TELL US RIGHT NOW WHY 1821 01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:32,195 THERE WAS A FIVE HOUR DELAY, AND 1822 01:00:32,195 --> 01:00:33,162 I THINK THE MAYOR SHOULD HAVE 1823 01:00:33,162 --> 01:00:37,533 SAID IT ON JULY 26th. AND EVERY 1824 01:00:37,533 --> 01:00:38,034 OTHER PRESS CONFERENCE 1825 01:00:38,034 --> 01:00:40,336 AFTERWARDS, BECAUSE WE'RE 1826 01:00:40,336 --> 01:00:42,205 HEARING CONFLICTING STORIES THAT 1827 01:00:42,205 --> 01:00:43,740 THE PRESS CONFERENCE WAS UPHELD, 1828 01:00:43,740 --> 01:00:46,809 WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN UNTIL 1829 01:00:46,809 --> 01:00:48,144 DIGNITARIES ARRIVED, THAT SOME 1830 01:00:48,144 --> 01:00:50,279 OF THE PEOPLE IN THE MAYOR'S 1831 01:00:50,279 --> 01:00:50,813 OFFICE DIDN'T KNOW THE 1832 01:00:50,813 --> 01:00:52,515 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MASS 1833 01:00:52,515 --> 01:00:54,784 HYSTERIA. WE NEED A WE NEED A 1834 01:00:54,784 --> 01:00:56,719 PRESS CONFERENCE NOW TO CALM 1835 01:00:56,719 --> 01:00:58,021 PEOPLE DOWN THAT THEY CAN 1836 01:00:58,021 --> 01:00:59,088 SHELTER IN PLACE OR THAT THEY'RE 1837 01:00:59,088 --> 01:01:00,623 SAFE OR THEY'RE NOT SAFE. IF 1838 01:01:00,623 --> 01:01:02,191 THERE'S A SHOOTER OUT THERE. 1839 01:01:02,191 --> 01:01:04,293 AND THEN LATER ON, YOU DO THE 1840 01:01:04,293 --> 01:01:06,062 FANCY POLITICAL PRESS CONFERENCE 1841 01:01:06,062 --> 01:01:08,164 AND WAIT FOR DIGNITARIES TO 1842 01:01:08,164 --> 01:01:11,601 ARRIVE. THAT'S WHY THE GOVERNOR 1843 01:01:11,601 --> 01:01:13,102 AND CONGRESSWOMAN PRAMILA 1844 01:01:13,102 --> 01:01:14,537 JAYAPAL, SENT OUT A PRESS 1845 01:01:14,537 --> 01:01:17,507 RELEASE SAYING, WE DIDN'T DELAY 1846 01:01:17,507 --> 01:01:18,608 THE PRESS CONFERENCE. SO I WOULD 1847 01:01:18,608 --> 01:01:21,010 LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU, WHY IS 1848 01:01:21,010 --> 01:01:22,945 THERE A FIVE HOUR DELAY? AND WHY 1849 01:01:22,945 --> 01:01:24,580 CAN'T THIS MAYOR AND THIS 1850 01:01:24,580 --> 01:01:25,248 MAYOR'S OFFICE, AND PARTICULARLY 1851 01:01:25,248 --> 01:01:26,916 NOT HAVING MR. PRITCHARD HERE? 1852 01:01:26,916 --> 01:01:29,252 WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS LAST 1853 01:01:29,252 --> 01:01:33,056 WEEK. WHY CAN'T WE KNOW THAT 1854 01:01:33,056 --> 01:01:33,256 NOW? 1855 01:01:33,256 --> 01:01:34,390 -- COUNCIL, RESPECTFULLY, YOU'RE 1856 01:01:34,390 --> 01:01:35,224 ASKING WHY THERE WAS A FIVE HOUR 1857 01:01:35,224 --> 01:01:36,993 DELAY IN A PRESS CONFERENCE. 1858 01:01:36,993 --> 01:01:38,795 WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHY 1859 01:01:38,795 --> 01:01:41,564 DIDN'T THE PUBLIC RECEIVE MORE 1860 01:01:41,564 --> 01:01:43,199 INFORMATION SOONER? PRESS A 1861 01:01:43,199 --> 01:01:45,935 PRESS CONFERENCE THAT WAS HELD 1862 01:01:45,935 --> 01:01:47,570 ON SITE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF 1863 01:01:47,570 --> 01:01:50,406 A SWAT INSPECTION. SWAT SEARCH 1864 01:01:50,406 --> 01:01:51,974 OF IMAX IS ONLY ONE WAY THAT THE 1865 01:01:51,974 --> 01:01:54,110 PUBLIC COULD HAVE RECEIVED 1866 01:01:54,110 --> 01:01:55,378 INFORMATION. THERE WERE LOTS OF 1867 01:01:55,378 --> 01:01:56,813 OTHER WAYS THAT THE PUBLIC COULD 1868 01:01:56,813 --> 01:01:58,047 HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION. WE 1869 01:01:58,047 --> 01:01:59,782 WANT TO KNOW ALL OF THEM BECAUSE 1870 01:01:59,782 --> 01:02:01,250 WHAT WE CARE ABOUT IS MAKING 1871 01:02:01,250 --> 01:02:02,351 SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN 1872 01:02:02,351 --> 01:02:05,288 AGAIN, AND THAT THE PUBLIC GETS 1873 01:02:05,288 --> 01:02:08,591 ACCURATE INFORMATION THAT IS 1874 01:02:08,591 --> 01:02:09,225 RELEASABLE WITHOUT COMPROMISING 1875 01:02:09,225 --> 01:02:10,393 THE INVESTIGATION IN A TIMELY 1876 01:02:10,393 --> 01:02:11,728 FASHION. THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT 1877 01:02:11,728 --> 01:02:13,196 QUESTION ABOUT WHY DIDN'T A 1878 01:02:13,196 --> 01:02:15,198 PRESS CONFERENCE HAPPEN ON SITE 1879 01:02:15,198 --> 01:02:17,433 AT A CERTAIN TIME? WHAT WERE THE 1880 01:02:17,433 --> 01:02:19,001 REASONS FOR THAT? WHICH, 1881 01:02:19,001 --> 01:02:20,503 FRANKLY, BECAUSE YOU AND I BOTH 1882 01:02:20,503 --> 01:02:22,505 KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS A 1883 01:02:22,505 --> 01:02:23,439 POLITICAL QUESTION. WE'RE 1884 01:02:23,439 --> 01:02:24,340 CONCERNED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY 1885 01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:25,575 RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT 1886 01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:26,576 WE'RE FOCUSED ON. 1887 01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:27,777 -- WELL, I DISAGREE, I DON'T 1888 01:02:27,777 --> 01:02:29,112 THINK IT'S A POLITICAL 1889 01:02:29,112 --> 01:02:30,713 QUESTION. I THINK IT'S A 1890 01:02:30,713 --> 01:02:33,616 FACTUAL QUESTION. I THINK THAT 1891 01:02:33,616 --> 01:02:35,751 WE NEED TO KNOW HOW THE MAYOR 1892 01:02:35,751 --> 01:02:38,254 WHAT WE HEARD ON TV IS HOW THE 1893 01:02:38,254 --> 01:02:42,925 MAYOR FOUND OUT HER ANSWER. AND 1894 01:02:42,925 --> 01:02:44,260 THEN THAT IS THE LEGISLATIVE 1895 01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:46,329 BRANCH PUTS US IN A POSITION, 1896 01:02:46,329 --> 01:02:47,463 PARTICULARLY ON THIS COMMITTEE. 1897 01:02:47,463 --> 01:02:49,098 AND THOSE OF US WHO AND YOU WERE 1898 01:02:49,098 --> 01:02:49,832 AROUND WHEN YOU WERE. I THINK 1899 01:02:49,832 --> 01:02:51,234 YOU WERE STILL AT THE ACLU, AND 1900 01:02:51,234 --> 01:02:53,903 WE WENT THROUGH CHOP AND DEFUND 1901 01:02:53,903 --> 01:02:55,671 IN THE EAST PRECINCT. AND, YOU 1902 01:02:55,671 --> 01:02:57,540 KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THAT WHOLE 1903 01:02:57,540 --> 01:02:59,408 INVESTIGATION OF HANDING IN OUR 1904 01:02:59,408 --> 01:03:00,009 PHONES, SAYING WHAT WE KNEW, 1905 01:03:00,009 --> 01:03:04,380 WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW. I'VE 1906 01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:05,581 WORKED WITH THREE MAYORS, AND I 1907 01:03:05,581 --> 01:03:07,984 WILL SAY THIS UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT 1908 01:03:07,984 --> 01:03:09,485 THIS MAYOR'S OFFICE WAS NOT 1909 01:03:09,485 --> 01:03:11,554 COMMUNICATING WITH SEATTLE CITY 1910 01:03:11,554 --> 01:03:13,890 COUNCIL. I FOUND THAT HER 1911 01:03:13,890 --> 01:03:17,793 RESPONSE TO HOW SHE LEARNED 1912 01:03:17,793 --> 01:03:19,829 INADEQUATE. I THINK THAT YOU 1913 01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:22,098 CAME TO THE CONCLUSION TO DO AN 1914 01:03:22,098 --> 01:03:24,033 OIG, BECAUSE WE START ASKING 1915 01:03:24,033 --> 01:03:24,667 QUESTIONS AND GETTING DOCUMENTS 1916 01:03:24,667 --> 01:03:27,937 THAT, IN FACT, THERE WAS 1917 01:03:27,937 --> 01:03:28,538 CONFLICTING INFORMATION, THAT 1918 01:03:28,538 --> 01:03:30,406 THERE WAS A 27 MINUTE PHONE CALL 1919 01:03:30,406 --> 01:03:32,441 BETWEEN QUOTE, UNQUOTE, 1920 01:03:32,441 --> 01:03:33,075 DIGNITARIES IN WHICH MR. KETTLE 1921 01:03:33,075 --> 01:03:36,045 WAS ON THE CALL AND THE COUNCIL 1922 01:03:36,045 --> 01:03:37,513 PRESIDENT WAS ON THE CALL, AS 1923 01:03:37,513 --> 01:03:40,149 WELL AS THE MAYOR AND THE 1924 01:03:40,149 --> 01:03:41,083 GOVERNOR AND THE CONGRESSWOMAN. 1925 01:03:41,083 --> 01:03:42,752 AND, OF COURSE, WE'VE ALL HEARD 1926 01:03:42,752 --> 01:03:44,654 DETAILS ABOUT THAT CALL. AND 1927 01:03:44,654 --> 01:03:45,922 QUITE FRANKLY, PEOPLE DIDN'T 1928 01:03:45,922 --> 01:03:47,490 KNOW WHERE THE MAYOR WAS. SHE 1929 01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:49,926 DIDN'T TURN HER CAMERA ON. WE 1930 01:03:49,926 --> 01:03:52,428 DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY. I'M NOT 1931 01:03:52,428 --> 01:03:54,030 TRYING TO CREATE SOME CLOAK AND 1932 01:03:54,030 --> 01:03:58,301 DAGGER, BUT IF I WERE THE MAYOR, 1933 01:03:58,301 --> 01:03:58,935 I WOULD HAVE AND I WOULD HAVE. 1934 01:03:58,935 --> 01:04:01,771 BACK ON JULY 26th AND THEREAFTER 1935 01:04:01,771 --> 01:04:03,906 BEEN TRANSPARENT AND HONEST 1936 01:04:03,906 --> 01:04:05,308 ABOUT THIS IS WHEN I LEARNED OF 1937 01:04:05,308 --> 01:04:06,509 IT. THIS IS WHEN I GOT THE PAGE 1938 01:04:06,509 --> 01:04:09,312 THAT THERE WAS A SHOOTING. THIS 1939 01:04:09,312 --> 01:04:10,746 IS WHAT I DID. THIS IS HOW I 1940 01:04:10,746 --> 01:04:13,482 RESPONDED. INSTEAD OF CHIEF 1941 01:04:13,482 --> 01:04:15,851 BARNES WAS IN TEXAS. THAT'S WHAT 1942 01:04:15,851 --> 01:04:17,954 WE GOT. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, 1943 01:04:17,954 --> 01:04:18,721 I'M NOT YOU KNOW ME. I'M NOT 1944 01:04:18,721 --> 01:04:21,691 GOING TO HIDE THE BALL. I'M NOT 1945 01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:22,525 TO DO GOTCHA. I JUST WANT TO 1946 01:04:22,525 --> 01:04:24,560 KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. AND WHEN YOU 1947 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,429 SAY A FIVE HOUR DELAY I COULD 1948 01:04:26,429 --> 01:04:27,797 SEE IF THERE WAS A FIVE HOUR 1949 01:04:27,797 --> 01:04:31,267 DELAY. AND YOU KNOW, WELL, 1950 01:04:31,267 --> 01:04:31,834 ACTUALLY MANY INCIDENCES IF 1951 01:04:31,834 --> 01:04:32,969 THERE'S A FIVE HOUR DELAY AND 1952 01:04:32,969 --> 01:04:34,370 THERE IS AN A PRESS CONFERENCE, 1953 01:04:34,370 --> 01:04:36,906 THIS WAS A FIVE HOUR DELAY IN 1954 01:04:36,906 --> 01:04:39,442 WHICH THREE PEOPLE LOST THEIR 1955 01:04:39,442 --> 01:04:41,611 LIVES AND THERE WAS A SHOOTER, A 1956 01:04:41,611 --> 01:04:42,478 SUSPECT OUT THERE. AND THEN WE 1957 01:04:42,478 --> 01:04:44,146 LEARNED THREE DAYS LATER, 1958 01:04:44,146 --> 01:04:44,814 OFFHANDEDLY, THAT, OH, THERE'S 1959 01:04:44,814 --> 01:04:47,416 MORE THAN ONE SHOOTER. SO I 1960 01:04:47,416 --> 01:04:49,819 GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE 1961 01:04:49,819 --> 01:04:51,220 COMMUNICATION WHICH YOU 1962 01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:52,121 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE SOME 1963 01:04:52,121 --> 01:04:57,126 SOME ISSUES IN COMMUNICATION. I 1964 01:04:57,126 --> 01:04:57,660 AM GOING TO RESPECTFULLY 1965 01:04:57,660 --> 01:05:00,396 DISAGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THE 1966 01:05:00,396 --> 01:05:01,998 MAYOR'S OFFICE SHOULD HAVE MR. 1967 01:05:01,998 --> 01:05:03,232 PRITCHARD HERE TO ANSWER TO US. 1968 01:05:03,232 --> 01:05:04,967 AND I THINK YOU COULD ANSWER 1969 01:05:04,967 --> 01:05:06,535 TODAY WHY THERE WAS A FIVE HOUR 1970 01:05:06,535 --> 01:05:07,737 DELAY. I THINK YOU JUST DON'T 1971 01:05:07,737 --> 01:05:09,438 WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH US. 1972 01:05:09,438 --> 01:05:10,172 QUITE FRANKLY, I COULD BE WRONG. 1973 01:05:10,172 --> 01:05:11,507 AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM 1974 01:05:11,507 --> 01:05:12,842 BEING WRONG. I DO NOT HAVE A 1975 01:05:12,842 --> 01:05:15,911 PROBLEM BEING WRONG. I DO NOT 1976 01:05:15,911 --> 01:05:16,979 HAVE A PROBLEM APOLOGIZING. I DO 1977 01:05:16,979 --> 01:05:18,447 NOT HAVE A PROBLEM ASKING FOR 1978 01:05:18,447 --> 01:05:20,883 HELP. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM 1979 01:05:20,883 --> 01:05:22,618 ADMITTING YOU KNOW WHEN I'M 1980 01:05:22,618 --> 01:05:23,853 WRONG AND IF I'M WRONG, THEN 1981 01:05:23,853 --> 01:05:25,554 I'M WRONG. BUT THAT'S WHAT I 1982 01:05:25,554 --> 01:05:28,057 OWE TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE. 1983 01:05:28,057 --> 01:05:30,793 -- THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 1984 01:05:30,793 --> 01:05:31,427 JUAREZ. JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON 1985 01:05:31,427 --> 01:05:32,628 THIS AND TO CONCLUDE, BECAUSE I 1986 01:05:32,628 --> 01:05:34,196 UNDERSTAND CHIEF SALES NEEDS TO 1987 01:05:34,196 --> 01:05:36,666 LEAVE, HOPEFULLY LIKE WITHIN 1988 01:05:36,666 --> 01:05:38,367 FIVE MINUTES AS OPPOSED TO FIVE 1989 01:05:38,367 --> 01:05:40,569 MINUTES AGO. THANK YOU, 1990 01:05:40,569 --> 01:05:43,039 COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ, TO THE 1991 01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:44,540 POINT ABOUT INDEPENDENT REVIEW. 1992 01:05:44,540 --> 01:05:46,842 YES, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS 1993 01:05:46,842 --> 01:05:47,910 ABOUT THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS TO BE 1994 01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:49,545 INDEPENDENT BECAUSE BOTH PARTIES 1995 01:05:49,545 --> 01:05:51,213 CANNOT BE INVOLVED. IT'S BEEN 1996 01:05:51,213 --> 01:05:53,215 EVOLVING. I'VE HAD A PRESS 1997 01:05:53,215 --> 01:05:53,816 STATEMENT RELATED TO IT FOR A 1998 01:05:53,816 --> 01:05:54,917 NUMBER OF DAYS, BUT IT'S OUT 1999 01:05:54,917 --> 01:05:58,154 NOW. OIG AND I SUPPORT GENERAL 2000 01:05:58,154 --> 01:06:01,490 JUDGE DOING HER WORK. THAT SAID, 2001 01:06:01,490 --> 01:06:03,859 THAT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT 2002 01:06:03,859 --> 01:06:06,462 DECEMBER 22nd MEETING HERE IN 2003 01:06:06,462 --> 01:06:07,530 COMMITTEE. SPD CAN HAVE ITS AR 2004 01:06:07,530 --> 01:06:08,664 AS AS VICE CHAIR NOTED, FIRE CAN 2005 01:06:08,664 --> 01:06:11,734 HAVE ITS AR. WE CAN HAVE OTHER 2006 01:06:11,734 --> 01:06:13,302 ELEMENTS COME IN IN TERMS OF OEM 2007 01:06:13,302 --> 01:06:15,404 SDOT AS IT LIKE, AND AYE. AND I 2008 01:06:15,404 --> 01:06:16,706 DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND 2009 01:06:16,706 --> 01:06:19,241 OF GO ALONG THE LINES OF 2010 01:06:19,241 --> 01:06:20,743 COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ IN TERMS OF 2011 01:06:20,743 --> 01:06:22,545 WHAT WAS THE MAYOR AND AND HER 2012 01:06:22,545 --> 01:06:24,113 TEAM DOING BROADLY IN TERMS OF 2013 01:06:24,113 --> 01:06:25,881 WHERE SHE WAS? DID SHE BRING 2014 01:06:25,881 --> 01:06:28,184 PEOPLE TOGETHER? WHAT WAS THE 2015 01:06:28,184 --> 01:06:29,251 DECISION PROCESS IN TERMS OF 2016 01:06:29,251 --> 01:06:30,353 WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO? I 2017 01:06:30,353 --> 01:06:32,288 THINK IT WAS GREAT THAT DEPUTY 2018 01:06:32,288 --> 01:06:34,857 MAYOR WAS ON SCENE AT SEATTLE 2019 01:06:34,857 --> 01:06:36,759 CENTER. THAT MAKES A LOT OF 2020 01:06:36,759 --> 01:06:38,127 SENSE TO ME. BUT WHAT'S NOT 2021 01:06:38,127 --> 01:06:39,762 KNOWN IS, YOU KNOW, DID OTHER 2022 01:06:39,762 --> 01:06:41,530 PEOPLE COME HERE TO CITY HALL? 2023 01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:42,431 YOU KNOW, DID THEY, YOU KNOW, 2024 01:06:42,431 --> 01:06:43,099 REVIEW? DID THEY CHECK AND SEE, 2025 01:06:43,099 --> 01:06:45,034 HEY, THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE 2026 01:06:45,034 --> 01:06:47,570 DONE BECAUSE THAT'S SO 2027 01:06:47,570 --> 01:06:50,373 IMPORTANT. AND IT WAS IMPORTANT 2028 01:06:50,373 --> 01:06:51,907 FOR THE, THE 26 MINUTE MEETING 2029 01:06:51,907 --> 01:06:55,611 STARTED AT 857. I WAS THERE 2030 01:06:55,611 --> 01:06:57,580 OBVIOUSLY, ALONG WITH C P 2031 01:06:57,580 --> 01:06:58,647 COUNCIL PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH. 2032 01:06:58,647 --> 01:07:00,249 AND THIS FOLLOWED. THIS WAS IN 2033 01:07:00,249 --> 01:07:02,418 THE BASEMENT OF THE THE ARMORY, 2034 01:07:02,418 --> 01:07:03,786 BECAUSE POLICE HAD SPD HAD THEIR 2035 01:07:03,786 --> 01:07:05,654 REVIEW, WHICH TOOK A CERTAIN 2036 01:07:05,654 --> 01:07:06,922 AMOUNT OF TIME. AND THEN WE 2037 01:07:06,922 --> 01:07:10,659 BASICALLY CLEARED THEM OUT. AND 2038 01:07:10,659 --> 01:07:12,061 THE SENIOR STATE OF SPD. AND 2039 01:07:12,061 --> 01:07:13,362 THEN PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, DEPUTY 2040 01:07:13,362 --> 01:07:15,097 MAYOR, CAME IN AND THEN WE WERE 2041 01:07:15,097 --> 01:07:18,134 JOINED ON TEAMS WITH 2042 01:07:18,134 --> 01:07:21,537 CONGRESSWOMAN JAYAPAL GOVERNOR 2043 01:07:21,537 --> 01:07:23,406 FERGUSON EXECUTIVES. OBVIOUSLY, 2044 01:07:23,406 --> 01:07:24,673 MAYOR WILSON, I ALREADY 2045 01:07:24,673 --> 01:07:25,241 MENTIONED COUNCIL PRESIDENT 2046 01:07:25,241 --> 01:07:27,309 MYSELF. AND AGAIN, THE SENIORS 2047 01:07:27,309 --> 01:07:28,844 FROM SPD, YOU KNOW, TO WALK 2048 01:07:28,844 --> 01:07:30,246 THROUGH THESE PIECES AND, YOU 2049 01:07:30,246 --> 01:07:32,415 KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT PROCESS 2050 01:07:32,415 --> 01:07:33,082 AND WHAT THE MAYOR WAS DOING, 2051 01:07:33,082 --> 01:07:34,183 WHAT THE MAYOR WAS DOING FROM 2052 01:07:34,183 --> 01:07:35,618 THAT MEETING, I MEAN, THIS IS 2053 01:07:35,618 --> 01:07:38,120 JUST LIKE A, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, 2054 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:38,888 I'VE USED THE WORD SIT ROOM 2055 01:07:38,888 --> 01:07:41,290 SITUATION ROOM, BUT THIS IS KIND 2056 01:07:41,290 --> 01:07:42,291 OF STANDARD. AND I THINK THAT 2057 01:07:42,291 --> 01:07:43,859 COULD BE PRESENTED AT SEPTEMBER 2058 01:07:43,859 --> 01:07:45,561 22nd AS WELL. OR IF YOU WANT TO 2059 01:07:45,561 --> 01:07:50,399 EARLIER. BUT I THINK THAT'S A, 2060 01:07:50,399 --> 01:07:51,100 A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE TO THIS. 2061 01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:52,635 AND IT KIND OF GOES TO THE 2062 01:07:52,635 --> 01:07:54,503 QUESTION MORE GENERALLY IN TERMS 2063 01:07:54,503 --> 01:07:55,638 OF THE COMP, THE COMP IS A 2064 01:07:55,638 --> 01:07:59,642 LITTLE BIT OF A I DON'T WANT TO 2065 01:07:59,642 --> 01:08:01,143 SAY SIDESHOW, BUT IT'S 2066 01:08:01,143 --> 01:08:04,079 IMPORTANT. BUT IT'S ALSO 2067 01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:04,880 DEFLECTING ATTENTION TO THE 2068 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:05,714 OPERATIONAL PIECE. AND THIS IS 2069 01:08:05,714 --> 01:08:07,783 WHY I WANT TO START TODAY WITH 2070 01:08:07,783 --> 01:08:09,018 THE TACTICAL SIDE. BUT IN 2071 01:08:09,018 --> 01:08:09,919 SEPTEMBER 22nd, I WANT TO BRING 2072 01:08:09,919 --> 01:08:12,421 IT UP A BIT BECAUSE 2073 01:08:12,421 --> 01:08:14,557 EVERYTHING'S INTERRELATED AND 2074 01:08:14,557 --> 01:08:16,125 OBVIOUSLY I'M IN A UNIQUE 2075 01:08:16,125 --> 01:08:17,393 POSITION SINCE I GOT THE CALL 2076 01:08:17,393 --> 01:08:19,862 FROM DEPUTY MAYOR, I WAS ON 2077 01:08:19,862 --> 01:08:21,063 STATION SEEING THESE PIECES. AND 2078 01:08:21,063 --> 01:08:22,798 BY THE WAY, I DID GET THE 2079 01:08:22,798 --> 01:08:23,732 INVITATION TO JOIN THE PRESS 2080 01:08:23,732 --> 01:08:25,201 CONFERENCE. I WAS I HAD JUST 2081 01:08:25,201 --> 01:08:26,402 LEFT AND I GOT A CALL FROM 2082 01:08:26,402 --> 01:08:29,872 DEPUTY MAYOR AT 1015. AND I, TO 2083 01:08:29,872 --> 01:08:32,975 BE FRANK, I DECLINED TO GO TO 2084 01:08:32,975 --> 01:08:34,677 THE PRESS CONFERENCE. PEOPLE CAN 2085 01:08:34,677 --> 01:08:35,711 DECIDE WHETHER THAT WAS A SMART 2086 01:08:35,711 --> 01:08:39,215 DECISION OR NOT, BUT THAT WAS MY 2087 01:08:39,215 --> 01:08:40,850 DECISION. JUST TO CLOSE THIS 2088 01:08:40,850 --> 01:08:42,218 SECTION. CHIEF SALES, THANK YOU 2089 01:08:42,218 --> 01:08:43,819 SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. CAPTAIN 2090 01:08:43,819 --> 01:08:45,688 WARD. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, 2091 01:08:45,688 --> 01:08:47,490 PARTICULARLY BECAUSE YOU ARE ON 2092 01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:48,924 STATION. AND ON SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2093 01:08:48,924 --> 01:08:51,360 ASSISTANT CHIEF DAVIS, MR. 2094 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:51,961 SERGEANT PRITCHARD DEFINITELY 2095 01:08:51,961 --> 01:08:53,462 NEED TO BE HERE. AND DIRECTOR 2096 01:08:53,462 --> 01:08:55,264 HOLCOMB, ALSO THANK YOU FOR 2097 01:08:55,264 --> 01:08:55,998 BEING HERE. BUT JUST TO CLOSE, I 2098 01:08:55,998 --> 01:08:58,667 DO WANT TO SAY MORE BROADLY 2099 01:08:58,667 --> 01:09:01,070 THANK YOU TO THOSE THAT 2100 01:09:01,070 --> 01:09:03,105 RESPONDED. AGAIN, I KNOW OFFICER 2101 01:09:03,105 --> 01:09:04,840 VACCA, WHO'S PART OF THE BEAT 2102 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,375 THERE AT SEATTLE CENTER. HE WAS 2103 01:09:06,375 --> 01:09:07,409 LIKE THE ONE OF THE FIRST 2104 01:09:07,409 --> 01:09:08,677 IMMEDIATE PEOPLE TO RESPOND. HIM 2105 01:09:08,677 --> 01:09:12,448 AND HIS COLLEAGUES, INCREDIBLE. 2106 01:09:12,448 --> 01:09:13,082 THE FIREFIGHTERS, THE EMTS, THE 2107 01:09:13,082 --> 01:09:15,117 WORK THAT THEY DID TO GET THESE 2108 01:09:15,117 --> 01:09:16,085 PEOPLE ENROUTE TO HARBORVIEW AND 2109 01:09:16,085 --> 01:09:17,486 SO FORTH. AND THERE'S THAT ONE 2110 01:09:17,486 --> 01:09:20,556 PERSON WHO WENT TO UW. AND SO 2111 01:09:20,556 --> 01:09:22,925 FORTH. INCREDIBLE. AND ALSO, BY 2112 01:09:22,925 --> 01:09:25,861 THE WAY, SEATTLE CENTER, MY 2113 01:09:25,861 --> 01:09:26,762 ESCORT AGAIN, I DID NOT KNOW IT 2114 01:09:26,762 --> 01:09:31,300 WAS AN ACT OF WITH THE IMAX SWAT 2115 01:09:31,300 --> 01:09:32,201 OPERATION WAS THE SEATTLE CENTER 2116 01:09:32,201 --> 01:09:34,470 SECURITY OFFICER. AND I SHOULD 2117 01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:36,071 NOTE, A FORMER MARINE. SO THAT 2118 01:09:36,071 --> 01:09:38,440 WAS GOOD TOO. AS A NAVY GUY, I 2119 01:09:38,440 --> 01:09:40,809 LOVE MY MARINE BROTHERS AND SO 2120 01:09:40,809 --> 01:09:43,979 THE SEATTLE CENTER TEAM TO. IN 2121 01:09:43,979 --> 01:09:45,614 THEIR ROLE. AND I JUST WANTED TO 2122 01:09:45,614 --> 01:09:49,318 THANK ALL OF THEM AND THOSE THAT 2123 01:09:49,318 --> 01:09:50,085 PARTICIPATED IN THE TEAMS 2124 01:09:50,085 --> 01:09:53,022 MEETING, I SHOULD SAY THANK YOU 2125 01:09:53,022 --> 01:09:53,656 TO COUNCILWOMAN JAYAPAL GOVERNOR 2126 01:09:53,656 --> 01:09:55,524 FERGUSON AND, AND EXECUTIVE 2127 01:09:55,524 --> 01:09:57,359 STAFF WHO WERE ALSO THERE ON 2128 01:09:57,359 --> 01:09:58,394 MONDAY AT THE PRE AND POST 2129 01:09:58,394 --> 01:09:59,628 MEETINGS FOR THE PRESS 2130 01:09:59,628 --> 01:10:01,463 CONFERENCE. AND I THINK THEIR 2131 01:10:01,463 --> 01:10:02,264 INVOLVEMENT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT 2132 01:10:02,264 --> 01:10:03,332 AS WELL. SO I WANT TO THANK THEM 2133 01:10:03,332 --> 01:10:06,368 FOR BEING THERE. AND WITH THAT, 2134 01:10:06,368 --> 01:10:09,505 WE WILL SEE YOU NO LATER THAN 2135 01:10:09,505 --> 01:10:11,774 SEPTEMBER 22nd. AND YES. 2136 01:10:11,774 --> 01:10:13,142 COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ O 2137 01:10:13,142 --> 01:10:15,311 COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. I DIDN'T 2138 01:10:15,311 --> 01:10:16,312 SEE YOUR HAND. THAT'S KIND OF A 2139 01:10:16,312 --> 01:10:19,014 CONCLUDING POINT, BECAUSE CHIEF 2140 01:10:19,014 --> 01:10:19,515 SAYLES DOES NEED TO GO. 2141 01:10:19,515 --> 01:10:20,149 -- BUT IF THAT NEEDS TO BE THE 2142 01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:21,283 CONCLUDING POINT, I'M HAPPY TO. 2143 01:10:21,283 --> 01:10:25,854 BUT ALSO, CHIEF, IF YOU NEED TO 2144 01:10:25,854 --> 01:10:27,122 TAKE OFF, AYE. CAPTAIN WAS THE 2145 01:10:27,122 --> 01:10:32,027 ONE ON SCENE THAT DAY AND PUBLIC 2146 01:10:32,027 --> 01:10:32,661 SAFETY DIRECTOR HOLCOMB IS ALSO 2147 01:10:32,661 --> 01:10:33,996 HERE FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, SO 2148 01:10:33,996 --> 01:10:34,797 DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO 2149 01:10:34,797 --> 01:10:35,297 STAY FOR MY QUESTIONS. 2150 01:10:35,297 --> 01:10:36,665 -- WE GOT SOME PROMOTIONS THAT 2151 01:10:36,665 --> 01:10:38,367 WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE 2152 01:10:38,367 --> 01:10:39,635 INTO, SO. OH, YOU BOTH GOT. 2153 01:10:39,635 --> 01:10:42,004 -- TO GO. SO I'LL JUST BE BRIEF. 2154 01:10:42,004 --> 01:10:43,772 -- YEAH. I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND. 2155 01:10:43,772 --> 01:10:45,140 -- YEAH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. YOU 2156 01:10:45,140 --> 01:10:47,643 KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST THANK 2157 01:10:47,643 --> 01:10:48,444 YOU, CHIEF SAYLES. THANK YOU 2158 01:10:48,444 --> 01:10:50,279 CAPTAIN. THANK YOU TO EVERY 2159 01:10:50,279 --> 01:10:51,146 SINGLE PERSON WHO WORKS FOR OUR 2160 01:10:51,146 --> 01:10:52,314 CITY AND WHO DOESN'T WORK FOR 2161 01:10:52,314 --> 01:10:57,252 OUR CITY. THAT RAN TOWARDS 2162 01:10:57,252 --> 01:11:00,122 DANGER. IT CANNOT BE OVERSTATED 2163 01:11:00,122 --> 01:11:04,226 OR UNDERSTATED. HOW PUTTING YOUR 2164 01:11:04,226 --> 01:11:05,794 OWN LIFE BEHIND THE LIVES OF THE 2165 01:11:05,794 --> 01:11:08,197 OTHERS AROUND YOU IN OUR CITY IS 2166 01:11:08,197 --> 01:11:09,765 SOMETHING THAT WE NEVER WANT TO 2167 01:11:09,765 --> 01:11:11,100 ASK OF OUR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, 2168 01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,768 AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY 2169 01:11:12,768 --> 01:11:16,205 DID FOR US ON THAT SUNDAY. AND I 2170 01:11:16,205 --> 01:11:17,640 AM ETERNALLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF 2171 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,175 THE WORK THAT YOUR OFFICERS AT 2172 01:11:20,175 --> 01:11:21,877 SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE 2173 01:11:21,877 --> 01:11:23,646 CARE DEPARTMENT, EVERYONE DID. 2174 01:11:23,646 --> 01:11:27,016 BUT IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL TO 2175 01:11:27,016 --> 01:11:28,183 RUN TOWARDS GUNFIRE IN A BIG 2176 01:11:28,183 --> 01:11:33,822 CROWD SO THANK YOU. AND I GUESS 2177 01:11:33,822 --> 01:11:35,824 I'M NOT GOING TO ASK IN THE 2178 01:11:35,824 --> 01:11:36,759 INTEREST OF TIME, I'M NOT GOING 2179 01:11:36,759 --> 01:11:38,961 TO ASK YOU TO WALK ME THROUGH 2180 01:11:38,961 --> 01:11:41,797 THE TIMELINE OF WHAT HAPPENED 2181 01:11:41,797 --> 01:11:44,833 THERE BETWEEN 6:00 AND 9 P.M. 2182 01:11:44,833 --> 01:11:46,702 WHEN THAT MEETING OCCURRED. BUT 2183 01:11:46,702 --> 01:11:50,406 I'LL SHARE WITH YOU THAT I WAS 2184 01:11:50,406 --> 01:11:53,542 I BECAME AWARE OF IT PROBABLY 2185 01:11:53,542 --> 01:11:54,276 630. BY 709, I WAS ON A PHONE 2186 01:11:54,276 --> 01:11:56,812 CALL WITH COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, 2187 01:11:56,812 --> 01:11:58,480 AND I HAD FULL INFORMATION THAT 2188 01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:00,683 THIS WAS NOT A PERSON ATTEMPTING 2189 01:12:00,683 --> 01:12:02,718 TO SHOOT PEOPLE 2190 01:12:02,718 --> 01:12:04,920 INDISCRIMINATELY, THAT THIS WAS 2191 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,955 A GROUP ON GROUP INTERACTION. 2192 01:12:06,955 --> 01:12:08,023 AND THAT REALLY CHANGED MY 2193 01:12:08,023 --> 01:12:09,491 ENTIRE DEMEANOR, REALLY, 2194 01:12:09,491 --> 01:12:11,960 FRANKLY, BECAUSE IT'S A REALLY 2195 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,063 BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY 2196 01:12:14,063 --> 01:12:16,865 WHO IS A DANGER TO THE ENTIRE 2197 01:12:16,865 --> 01:12:18,200 PUBLIC AS COMPARED TO SOMEBODY 2198 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,169 WHO IS A DANGER TO PEOPLE WHOM 2199 01:12:20,169 --> 01:12:24,606 THEY KNOW AND SO AT THAT. SO FOR 2200 01:12:24,606 --> 01:12:26,442 ME, I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION 2201 01:12:26,442 --> 01:12:28,243 HERE IS WHAT IS AND I KNOW I'VE 2202 01:12:28,243 --> 01:12:28,844 HAD MY COLLEAGUES SHARE, BUT 2203 01:12:28,844 --> 01:12:30,679 WHAT IS THE STANDARD OPERATING 2204 01:12:30,679 --> 01:12:33,148 PROCEDURE FOR INFORMING THE 2205 01:12:33,148 --> 01:12:34,416 PUBLIC WITH JUST EVEN THAT 2206 01:12:34,416 --> 01:12:37,720 SMALLEST AND NUANCE OF 2207 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,190 INFORMATION? 2208 01:12:41,190 --> 01:12:41,824 -- I THINK THAT THAT'S THE 2209 01:12:41,824 --> 01:12:42,524 INFORMATION THAT WE'RE WORKING 2210 01:12:42,524 --> 01:12:44,259 ON, MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING 2211 01:12:44,259 --> 01:12:45,194 THAT OUT. I KNOW I'VE BEEN 2212 01:12:45,194 --> 01:12:47,062 WORKING WITH OUR PIO OFFICE OVER 2213 01:12:47,062 --> 01:12:48,497 THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF IN 2214 01:12:48,497 --> 01:12:50,265 REGARDS TO COMING UP WITH A 2215 01:12:50,265 --> 01:12:51,133 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LOOKING AT 2216 01:12:51,133 --> 01:12:52,901 AN OLD PLAN THAT WE HAD AND 2217 01:12:52,901 --> 01:12:54,269 REVAMPING THAT, LOOKING AT, 2218 01:12:54,269 --> 01:12:56,205 OKAY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY 2219 01:12:56,205 --> 01:12:56,905 MINUTES BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING 2220 01:12:56,905 --> 01:12:57,906 TO HOLD ME TO, OH, YOU SAID 20 2221 01:12:57,906 --> 01:12:59,274 MINUTES. BUT LOOKING AT THAT AND 2222 01:12:59,274 --> 01:13:00,509 SAY, WHAT IS ACCURATE 2223 01:13:00,509 --> 01:13:01,443 INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT 2224 01:13:01,443 --> 01:13:04,279 NOW THAT WE CAN GET OUT TO THE 2225 01:13:04,279 --> 01:13:06,715 PUBLIC UTILIZING ALERT SEATTLE, 2226 01:13:06,715 --> 01:13:07,282 UTILIZING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA 2227 01:13:07,282 --> 01:13:09,118 PLATFORMS THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'RE 2228 01:13:09,118 --> 01:13:10,085 WE'RE REVAMPING THAT. LOOKING 2229 01:13:10,085 --> 01:13:11,253 AT THAT, I THINK IN OUR DEBRIEF 2230 01:13:11,253 --> 01:13:12,087 THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, WE'RE 2231 01:13:12,087 --> 01:13:13,055 GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER 2232 01:13:13,055 --> 01:13:15,424 AND CONTINUE TO PUT TOGETHER A 2233 01:13:15,424 --> 01:13:16,325 PLAN, LOOKING AT SOME THINGS 2234 01:13:16,325 --> 01:13:19,928 THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED. ON 2235 01:13:19,928 --> 01:13:20,295 THIS INCIDENT. 2236 01:13:20,295 --> 01:13:21,864 -- THANK YOU. 2237 01:13:21,864 --> 01:13:22,431 -- IF I MAY, COUNCILMEMBER 2238 01:13:22,431 --> 01:13:22,698 STRAUSS. 2239 01:13:22,698 --> 01:13:23,465 -- I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. 2240 01:13:23,465 --> 01:13:24,933 THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE KINDS OF 2241 01:13:24,933 --> 01:13:26,402 QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED. WE'RE 2242 01:13:26,402 --> 01:13:30,005 EXPECTING INSPECTOR JUDGE TO ASK 2243 01:13:30,005 --> 01:13:30,672 WHAT WERE THE PROTOCOLS IN 2244 01:13:30,672 --> 01:13:33,575 PLACE? 2245 01:13:33,575 --> 01:13:34,476 -- BECAUSE I RECALL THAT THE 2246 01:13:34,476 --> 01:13:35,244 STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE IN 2247 01:13:35,244 --> 01:13:37,679 THE PAST REGARDING INFORMING THE 2248 01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:38,981 PUBLIC DIDN'T FAIL IN JANUARY, 2249 01:13:38,981 --> 01:13:40,382 WHEN THE TWO STUDENTS WERE SHOT 2250 01:13:40,382 --> 01:13:43,118 AT RAINIER BEACH AND THE MAYOR 2251 01:13:43,118 --> 01:13:44,887 WAS UNAVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. I 2252 01:13:44,887 --> 01:13:45,988 KNOW THAT I BELIEVE AND CORRECT 2253 01:13:45,988 --> 01:13:47,723 ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THE 2254 01:13:47,723 --> 01:13:49,158 PUBLIC WAS INFORMED ABOUT THE 2255 01:13:49,158 --> 01:13:50,659 BASE, THE FOUR CORNERS OF WHAT 2256 01:13:50,659 --> 01:13:54,163 WAS GOING ON. WITHIN 45 MINUTES. 2257 01:13:54,163 --> 01:13:55,798 IS THAT YOUR RECOLLECTION? 2258 01:13:55,798 --> 01:13:56,899 -- I DON'T HAVE A RECOLLECTION 2259 01:13:56,899 --> 01:13:58,367 OF THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S ALSO 2260 01:13:58,367 --> 01:14:00,502 A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE AFTER 2261 01:14:00,502 --> 01:14:02,604 ACTION REVIEW TO DIG INTO WHAT 2262 01:14:02,604 --> 01:14:04,373 HAS WORKED, WHERE WHERE DID 2263 01:14:04,373 --> 01:14:05,140 THINGS DIFFER THIS TIME AROUND 2264 01:14:05,140 --> 01:14:06,708 AND WHY? 2265 01:14:06,708 --> 01:14:07,342 -- AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THE 2266 01:14:07,342 --> 01:14:10,412 CALL THAT I GOT AT A EARLY THE 2267 01:14:10,412 --> 01:14:12,448 5:00 HOUR FROM THE SEATTLE 2268 01:14:12,448 --> 01:14:14,383 POLICE DEPARTMENT. NOT ON THIS 2269 01:14:14,383 --> 01:14:16,418 DAY, BUT THE DAY WHERE THERE WAS 2270 01:14:16,418 --> 01:14:18,120 AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING IN 2271 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,522 MY DISTRICT, AND I RECALL THE 2272 01:14:20,522 --> 01:14:22,491 PERSON THAT CALLED ME, YOU KNOW, 2273 01:14:22,491 --> 01:14:25,527 GAVE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF 2274 01:14:25,527 --> 01:14:26,562 MAYBE THE CROSS STREETS 2275 01:14:26,562 --> 01:14:28,030 GENERALLY. AND I TOLD HIM, 2276 01:14:28,030 --> 01:14:30,766 THAT'S ADAMS ELEMENTARY, 2277 01:14:30,766 --> 01:14:31,300 BECAUSE THAT THAT OFFICER 2278 01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:33,035 INVOLVED SHOOTING OCCURRED IN 2279 01:14:33,035 --> 01:14:34,503 THE VERY INTERSECTION THAT I WAS 2280 01:14:34,503 --> 01:14:36,572 A CROSSING GUARD AS AN 2281 01:14:36,572 --> 01:14:39,007 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENT. AND I 2282 01:14:39,007 --> 01:14:40,242 WAS I GOT THERE AS FAST AS I 2283 01:14:40,242 --> 01:14:44,213 COULD. AND WHEN I ARRIVED, THE 2284 01:14:44,213 --> 01:14:46,815 PRESS CONFERENCE WAS DONE 2285 01:14:46,815 --> 01:14:47,883 BECAUSE IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE 2286 01:14:47,883 --> 01:14:50,652 POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET OUT ALL 2287 01:14:50,652 --> 01:14:51,887 OF THE INFORMATION. AS SOON AS I 2288 01:14:51,887 --> 01:14:54,223 DID NOT ASK, HEY, CAN YOU HOLD. 2289 01:14:54,223 --> 01:14:55,524 CAN YOU WAIT FOR ME TO GET 2290 01:14:55,524 --> 01:14:58,660 THERE? THIS IS BIGGER THAN ME. 2291 01:14:58,660 --> 01:15:01,530 THIS IS AT THAT MOMENT, THE MOST 2292 01:15:01,530 --> 01:15:03,332 IMPORTANT THING WAS FOR THE 2293 01:15:03,332 --> 01:15:04,600 PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT A VERY 2294 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,635 DANGEROUS MAN HAD BEEN FOLLOWING 2295 01:15:06,635 --> 01:15:08,704 AN 18 YEAR OLD WOMAN, INTENDING 2296 01:15:08,704 --> 01:15:11,473 TO DO IMMENSE HARM TO HER, WAS 2297 01:15:11,473 --> 01:15:18,380 NOT ABOUT ME. THAT DAY. AND SO 2298 01:15:18,380 --> 01:15:19,114 PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR, YOU'VE 2299 01:15:19,114 --> 01:15:20,048 MADE THE COMMENTS A COUPLE TIMES 2300 01:15:20,048 --> 01:15:21,984 THAT THE OIG WILL BE REVIEWING 2301 01:15:21,984 --> 01:15:23,619 THIS INFORMATION TO SEE WHERE 2302 01:15:23,619 --> 01:15:26,021 THOSE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE. 2303 01:15:26,021 --> 01:15:29,892 I YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, AN OIG 2304 01:15:29,892 --> 01:15:30,525 INVESTIGATION IMPLIES WRONGDOING 2305 01:15:30,525 --> 01:15:31,593 ON BEHALF OF THE POLICE, MAYBE 2306 01:15:31,593 --> 01:15:34,263 EXPLICITLY OR IMPLICITLY. AND SO 2307 01:15:34,263 --> 01:15:35,697 THE QUESTION IS, WILL THEY ALSO 2308 01:15:35,697 --> 01:15:37,466 BE REVIEWING THE CHAIN OF 2309 01:15:37,466 --> 01:15:40,435 COMMAND ALL THE WAY TO THE MAYOR 2310 01:15:40,435 --> 01:15:40,702 HERSELF? 2311 01:15:40,702 --> 01:15:43,272 -- WE'VE ASKED THE INSPECTOR 2312 01:15:43,272 --> 01:15:45,340 GENERAL'S OFFICE TO REVIEW ALL 2313 01:15:45,340 --> 01:15:47,009 ACTIONS BY ALL OFFICES, ALL 2314 01:15:47,009 --> 01:15:48,410 DEPARTMENTS, AND ASK ALL 2315 01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:50,178 DEPARTMENT AND OFFICE STAFF. 2316 01:15:50,178 --> 01:15:51,680 YES, THAT OFFICE INCLUDES THE 2317 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,949 MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE OFFICE OF 2318 01:15:53,949 --> 01:15:55,651 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, ALL 2319 01:15:55,651 --> 01:15:56,218 OFFICES AND DEPARTMENTS TO 2320 01:15:56,218 --> 01:15:56,952 COOPERATE FULLY IN THE AFTER 2321 01:15:56,952 --> 01:15:59,555 ACTION REVIEW SO THE PUBLIC CAN 2322 01:15:59,555 --> 01:16:02,724 HAVE A FULL PICTURE OF WHERE 2323 01:16:02,724 --> 01:16:03,358 COMMUNICATIONS MAY HAVE BROKEN 2324 01:16:03,358 --> 01:16:04,760 DOWN AND WHY. 2325 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,130 -- AND I ASK THAT BECAUSE WHAT I 2326 01:16:08,130 --> 01:16:10,732 SAW WITH THE FLOW OF INFORMATION 2327 01:16:10,732 --> 01:16:13,402 ON SUNDAY AT THE IDA SEATTLE WAS 2328 01:16:13,402 --> 01:16:15,103 CONSISTENT WITH SOME CHALLENGES 2329 01:16:15,103 --> 01:16:17,172 THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE 2330 01:16:17,172 --> 01:16:17,739 MAYOR'S OFFICE REGARDING 2331 01:16:17,739 --> 01:16:19,708 COMMUNICATION COOPERATION, 2332 01:16:19,708 --> 01:16:21,076 PRODUCTIVITY AND WORKING 2333 01:16:21,076 --> 01:16:23,612 TOGETHER. AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT 2334 01:16:23,612 --> 01:16:25,247 THAN WHAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED 2335 01:16:25,247 --> 01:16:27,716 FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN 2336 01:16:27,716 --> 01:16:30,018 THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS, WITH FLOW 2337 01:16:30,018 --> 01:16:32,821 OF INFORMATION. AND SO I'M 2338 01:16:32,821 --> 01:16:34,456 HAVING TROUBLE SEEING WHAT IS 2339 01:16:34,456 --> 01:16:36,725 THAT MISMATCH HERE TODAY, RIGHT? 2340 01:16:36,725 --> 01:16:40,429 I AM EXPERIENCING THE SAME 2341 01:16:40,429 --> 01:16:42,898 COMMUNICATION AND COOPERATION 2342 01:16:42,898 --> 01:16:45,467 CHALLENGES THAT I'VE HAD WITH 2343 01:16:45,467 --> 01:16:47,669 THE EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE REGARDING 2344 01:16:47,669 --> 01:16:48,737 THE STOPPING AND THEN DOING A 2345 01:16:48,737 --> 01:16:50,973 SWEEP IN BALLARD IN EARLY 2346 01:16:50,973 --> 01:16:53,508 JANUARY FROM THE DEPARTMENT 2347 01:16:53,508 --> 01:16:55,310 DIRECTOR DEPARTURES IN DECEMBER, 2348 01:16:55,310 --> 01:16:57,546 JANUARY, FEBRUARY, INCLUDING 2349 01:16:57,546 --> 01:16:59,481 DAWN LINDELL, WHO IS IN CHARGE 2350 01:16:59,481 --> 01:17:01,717 OF OUR UTILITY, THAT WE ARE NOW 2351 01:17:01,717 --> 01:17:03,518 HAVING A 9.5 INCREASE IN THE 2352 01:17:03,518 --> 01:17:05,988 RATES. THERE HAD BEEN AN ENTIRE 2353 01:17:05,988 --> 01:17:07,622 PLAN TO WALK THROUGH WHY THOSE 2354 01:17:07,622 --> 01:17:09,558 RATES NEED TO OCCUR. THAT PLAN 2355 01:17:09,558 --> 01:17:11,159 DIDN'T GET TO OCCUR BECAUSE WE 2356 01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:13,795 CHANGED OUT LEADERSHIP WITH SO 2357 01:17:13,795 --> 01:17:18,000 LITTLE TIME, I NEVER GOT TO EVEN 2358 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:18,800 HAVE A DEBRIEF WITH DON ABOUT 2359 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,801 THE WORK THAT WE NEEDED TO 2360 01:17:19,801 --> 01:17:21,169 CONTINUE. THIS HAS HAPPENED WITH 2361 01:17:21,169 --> 01:17:24,473 MHA. THIS HAS HAPPENED WITH I 2362 01:17:24,473 --> 01:17:27,242 MEAN, IT WITH SCHOOL LUNCHES, 2363 01:17:27,242 --> 01:17:31,713 WITH THE SHELTER BILL. SO THESE 2364 01:17:31,713 --> 01:17:34,950 ARE ALL THIS IS A THIS IS A SET 2365 01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:36,852 OF EXPERIENCES THAT I'VE HAD 2366 01:17:36,852 --> 01:17:39,087 WITH THE EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE. 2367 01:17:39,087 --> 01:17:40,522 AND THIS IS NOT A SET OF 2368 01:17:40,522 --> 01:17:42,157 EXPERIENCES THAT I'VE HAD WITH 2369 01:17:42,157 --> 01:17:44,192 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT JUST IN 2370 01:17:44,192 --> 01:17:45,560 THESE LAST EIGHT MONTHS. AND SO 2371 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,364 THAT'S WHY I ASK, HOW WILL THE 2372 01:17:49,364 --> 01:17:51,266 OIG BE REVIEWING THE INFORMATION 2373 01:17:51,266 --> 01:17:52,601 WITHIN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND ALL 2374 01:17:52,601 --> 01:17:54,903 THE WAY TO THE MAYOR HERSELF? 2375 01:17:54,903 --> 01:17:56,505 -- I APPRECIATE THAT, AND AND IT 2376 01:17:56,505 --> 01:17:58,340 IS THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE 2377 01:17:58,340 --> 01:18:01,443 MAYOR'S SINCERE HOPE THAT BY 2378 01:18:01,443 --> 01:18:03,245 REQUESTING AN INDEPENDENT AFTER 2379 01:18:03,245 --> 01:18:05,113 ACTION REVIEW BY THE OIG, YOU 2380 01:18:05,113 --> 01:18:07,015 WILL BE MORE REASSURED WITH THE 2381 01:18:07,015 --> 01:18:09,518 CONCLUSIONS THAT ARE DRAWN THAN 2382 01:18:09,518 --> 01:18:12,254 IF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ALONE WAS 2383 01:18:12,254 --> 01:18:13,822 TRYING TO PROVIDE ANSWERS TO THE 2384 01:18:13,822 --> 01:18:15,257 QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE POSING. 2385 01:18:15,257 --> 01:18:18,827 -- THAT WE COULD ANSWER THOSE 2386 01:18:18,827 --> 01:18:19,227 QUESTIONS TODAY. 2387 01:18:19,227 --> 01:18:20,862 -- I'M SORRY. 2388 01:18:20,862 --> 01:18:22,364 -- I MEAN, IT DOESN'T TAKE AN 2389 01:18:22,364 --> 01:18:24,933 OIG INVESTIGATION TO BE ABLE TO 2390 01:18:24,933 --> 01:18:26,501 ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS TODAY. 2391 01:18:26,501 --> 01:18:28,303 -- THE QUESTIONS YOU JUST ASKED 2392 01:18:28,303 --> 01:18:29,905 ABOUT. 2393 01:18:29,905 --> 01:18:33,241 -- WHO MADE THE DECISION TO HOLD 2394 01:18:33,241 --> 01:18:34,810 PAUSE, DELAY OR NOT HOLD A PRESS 2395 01:18:34,810 --> 01:18:37,312 CONFERENCE BETWEEN 6 P.M. AND 2396 01:18:37,312 --> 01:18:40,649 730 OR BETWEEN 7 AND 8, OR 2397 01:18:40,649 --> 01:18:42,350 BETWEEN 8 AND 9, OR BY THE TIME 2398 01:18:42,350 --> 01:18:45,420 THAT COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE WAS 2399 01:18:45,420 --> 01:18:48,824 LEAVING ONLY AFTER THAT, THERE 2400 01:18:48,824 --> 01:18:49,958 WAS A DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD 2401 01:18:49,958 --> 01:18:51,560 WITH A PRESS CONFERENCE, AND I 2402 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:52,694 REALLY I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SAID 2403 01:18:52,694 --> 01:18:54,763 IT, BUT LIKE A PRESS CONFERENCE 2404 01:18:54,763 --> 01:18:57,032 IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO INFORM 2405 01:18:57,032 --> 01:18:57,833 THE PUBLIC. ALERT SEATTLE IS NOT 2406 01:18:57,833 --> 01:18:59,634 THE ONLY WAY TO INFORM THE 2407 01:18:59,634 --> 01:19:00,802 PUBLIC, BUT WHAT WAS MOST 2408 01:19:00,802 --> 01:19:02,237 IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO 2409 01:19:02,237 --> 01:19:05,740 KNOW. AT 7:09 P.M. WAS. THIS WAS 2410 01:19:05,740 --> 01:19:08,210 NOT A PERSON WHO WAS KILLING 2411 01:19:08,210 --> 01:19:09,778 PEOPLE INDISCRIMINATELY. THIS 2412 01:19:09,778 --> 01:19:12,013 WAS A KNOWN SET OF PARAMETERS, 2413 01:19:12,013 --> 01:19:13,415 LIKE THERE WAS A KNOWN SET OF 2414 01:19:13,415 --> 01:19:15,717 ACTORS IN HERE. THERE ARE SO 2415 01:19:15,717 --> 01:19:16,952 MANY MORE THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT 2416 01:19:16,952 --> 01:19:18,420 KNOW. AND CHIEF SALES, I CANNOT 2417 01:19:18,420 --> 01:19:20,222 THANK YOU ENOUGH ABOUT HOW 2418 01:19:20,222 --> 01:19:23,358 THOUGHTFUL YOU ARE ABOUT BOTH 2419 01:19:23,358 --> 01:19:26,495 FOLLOWING UP ON THESE MURDERS 2420 01:19:26,495 --> 01:19:29,531 AND NOT MAKING INDISCRIMINATE 2421 01:19:29,531 --> 01:19:30,031 ACCUSATIONS WITHOUT THE 2422 01:19:30,031 --> 01:19:31,867 INFORMATION TO BACK YOU UP. THAT 2423 01:19:31,867 --> 01:19:34,069 IS THE STANDARD OF 2424 01:19:34,069 --> 01:19:35,737 PROFESSIONALISM THAT WE DESIRE 2425 01:19:35,737 --> 01:19:40,208 AND THAT WE APPRECIATE IN THIS 2426 01:19:40,208 --> 01:19:40,976 CITY SO IMMENSE, IMMENSE. THANK 2427 01:19:40,976 --> 01:19:42,911 YOU TO YOU FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S 2428 01:19:42,911 --> 01:19:47,916 WHAT I'M GETTING BACK TO, IS WE 2429 01:19:47,916 --> 01:19:49,284 DON'T NEED TO HAVE AN OIG 2430 01:19:49,284 --> 01:19:51,119 INVESTIGATION. WE CAN ANSWER 2431 01:19:51,119 --> 01:19:53,488 THOSE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. 2432 01:19:53,488 --> 01:19:54,923 -- AND SO I'LL SAY THIS AND 2433 01:19:54,923 --> 01:19:56,525 ANSWER BOTH TO YOU AND TO 2434 01:19:56,525 --> 01:19:57,893 COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. NO, WE 2435 01:19:57,893 --> 01:19:59,694 CAN'T BECAUSE IN FACT, I DON'T 2436 01:19:59,694 --> 01:20:01,563 KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT 2437 01:20:01,563 --> 01:20:03,665 QUESTION. AND AS I INDICATED IN 2438 01:20:03,665 --> 01:20:06,301 MY ANSWERS TO COUNCILMEMBER 2439 01:20:06,301 --> 01:20:07,469 JUAREZ, THERE WERE DOZENS OF 2440 01:20:07,469 --> 01:20:09,571 PEOPLE WHO WERE TEXTING AND 2441 01:20:09,571 --> 01:20:10,939 CALLING EACH OTHER WITH LOTS OF 2442 01:20:10,939 --> 01:20:14,142 INFORMATION. THAT EVENING, YOU 2443 01:20:14,142 --> 01:20:15,177 PROBABLY KNEW WHAT YOU KNEW 2444 01:20:15,177 --> 01:20:17,445 ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE 2445 01:20:17,445 --> 01:20:18,280 GROUND SOONER THAN I DID, 2446 01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,382 BECAUSE YOU HAD CHAIR KETTLE 2447 01:20:20,382 --> 01:20:21,583 CALLING YOU WITH THAT 2448 01:20:21,583 --> 01:20:22,818 INFORMATION. CHAIR KETTLE 2449 01:20:22,818 --> 01:20:24,052 WASN'T CALLING ME WITH THAT 2450 01:20:24,052 --> 01:20:24,386 INFORMATION. 2451 01:20:24,386 --> 01:20:25,387 -- I CALLED HIM RIGHT. FOR THE 2452 01:20:25,387 --> 01:20:27,322 RECORD, I CALLED HIM. 2453 01:20:27,322 --> 01:20:28,823 -- EXACTLY. SO THAT'S MY POINT 2454 01:20:28,823 --> 01:20:32,093 IS JUST THAT I FEEL THE 2455 01:20:32,093 --> 01:20:35,030 FRUSTRATION AND I FEEL THAT IT 2456 01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:35,931 DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT WE'RE 2457 01:20:35,931 --> 01:20:37,566 NOT ABLE TO ANSWER ALL THESE 2458 01:20:37,566 --> 01:20:40,535 QUESTIONS. AND I'M JUST TRYING 2459 01:20:40,535 --> 01:20:41,903 TO REITERATE A VERSION OF WHAT 2460 01:20:41,903 --> 01:20:43,538 YOU HEARD CHIEF SALES SAY 2461 01:20:43,538 --> 01:20:45,674 EARLIER. THERE WERE DOZENS OF 2462 01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:46,308 PEOPLE THAT WERE MOBILIZING THAT 2463 01:20:46,308 --> 01:20:48,043 WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOU 2464 01:20:48,043 --> 01:20:49,678 HAD THE OPERATIONAL WORK 2465 01:20:49,678 --> 01:20:50,345 HAPPENING ON THE GROUND, AND YOU 2466 01:20:50,345 --> 01:20:52,247 HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT 2467 01:20:52,247 --> 01:20:52,914 WEREN'T ON THE GROUND THAT WERE 2468 01:20:52,914 --> 01:20:55,483 TRYING TO GET INFORMATION TO AND 2469 01:20:55,483 --> 01:20:56,551 FROM OTHER INDIVIDUALS SO THAT 2470 01:20:56,551 --> 01:20:57,819 WE COULD GET AN ACCURATE PICTURE 2471 01:20:57,819 --> 01:21:02,991 OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING. SO THE 2472 01:21:02,991 --> 01:21:05,060 MAYOR'S OFFICE CAN'T ANSWER 2473 01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:05,627 THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE 2474 01:21:05,627 --> 01:21:06,261 RIGHT NOW. WE WOULD IF WE DID 2475 01:21:06,261 --> 01:21:07,262 SO, IT WOULD BE A KNEE JERK 2476 01:21:07,262 --> 01:21:09,731 REACTION. WE WOULD BE RUSHING TO 2477 01:21:09,731 --> 01:21:11,032 JUDGMENT ABOUT WHAT REALLY 2478 01:21:11,032 --> 01:21:12,767 HAPPENED, WHAT THE FACTS WERE 2479 01:21:12,767 --> 01:21:14,069 WHEN THERE WERE MULTIPLE OFFICES 2480 01:21:14,069 --> 01:21:16,371 AND DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE 2481 01:21:16,371 --> 01:21:18,506 CONTRIBUTING INFORMATION THAT 2482 01:21:18,506 --> 01:21:20,976 EVENING. AND BECAUSE THIS HAS 2483 01:21:20,976 --> 01:21:23,144 BECOME SUCH A CHARGED TOPIC AND 2484 01:21:23,144 --> 01:21:24,980 IS PULLED FOCUS AWAY FROM THE 2485 01:21:24,980 --> 01:21:25,580 OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE OF THE 2486 01:21:25,580 --> 01:21:27,048 PEOPLE ON THE GROUND AND THE 2487 01:21:27,048 --> 01:21:28,650 VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO 2488 01:21:28,650 --> 01:21:29,951 CONTINUE TO SUFFER THROUGH THIS. 2489 01:21:29,951 --> 01:21:33,321 WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME 2490 01:21:33,321 --> 01:21:35,657 TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE PRESS 2491 01:21:35,657 --> 01:21:36,324 CONFERENCE HAPPENED, SO WE'RE 2492 01:21:36,324 --> 01:21:38,460 GOING TO GIVE IT TO OIG. THEY 2493 01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:39,394 CAN DO THAT INVESTIGATION. THEY 2494 01:21:39,394 --> 01:21:40,996 CAN DO THAT AFTER ACTION REVIEW. 2495 01:21:40,996 --> 01:21:42,230 THEY CAN GIVE US A REPORT. WE'RE 2496 01:21:42,230 --> 01:21:43,865 GOING TO COOPERATE FULLY. WE'RE 2497 01:21:43,865 --> 01:21:45,133 GOING TO PROVIDE ALL THE RECORDS 2498 01:21:45,133 --> 01:21:46,768 THAT WE HAVE FROM ALL THE 2499 01:21:46,768 --> 01:21:48,670 PHONES, ALL THE EMAILS. WE'RE 2500 01:21:48,670 --> 01:21:50,038 GOING TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE 2501 01:21:50,038 --> 01:21:51,306 INTERVIEWS, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN 2502 01:21:51,306 --> 01:21:53,108 GET AN ANSWER THAT WILL SATISFY 2503 01:21:53,108 --> 01:21:55,443 YOU, BECAUSE IT WILL BE AN 2504 01:21:55,443 --> 01:21:56,978 OBJECTIVE THIRD PARTY THAT IS 2505 01:21:56,978 --> 01:21:58,813 ACTUALLY CHARGED WITH DOING THAT 2506 01:21:58,813 --> 01:21:59,681 KIND OF AFTER ACTION REVIEW. SO, 2507 01:21:59,681 --> 01:22:01,216 NO, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE DOES NOT 2508 01:22:01,216 --> 01:22:02,817 HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION 2509 01:22:02,817 --> 01:22:04,853 TODAY, BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO 2510 01:22:04,853 --> 01:22:06,354 GETTING IT BECAUSE WE WANT THE 2511 01:22:06,354 --> 01:22:07,522 ANSWER, JUST LIKE YOU DO, 2512 01:22:07,522 --> 01:22:09,057 BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT TO 2513 01:22:09,057 --> 01:22:10,292 HAPPEN AGAIN. 2514 01:22:10,292 --> 01:22:12,027 -- OKAY. AND BUT YOU SEE THIS 2515 01:22:12,027 --> 01:22:14,963 DIFFERENT SET OF INTERACTIONS 2516 01:22:14,963 --> 01:22:15,630 AND EXPERIENCES THAT I AND SOME 2517 01:22:15,630 --> 01:22:17,132 OTHERS HAVE HAD WITH THE 2518 01:22:17,132 --> 01:22:18,199 EXECUTIVE AS COMPARED WITH THE 2519 01:22:18,199 --> 01:22:19,734 SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND 2520 01:22:19,734 --> 01:22:23,438 SO YOU CAN'T ANSWER TODAY. I'LL 2521 01:22:23,438 --> 01:22:25,407 JUST ASK DIRECTLY. DID THE 2522 01:22:25,407 --> 01:22:27,709 MAYOR'S OFFICE OR DESIGNEE OF 2523 01:22:27,709 --> 01:22:30,578 THE MAYOR ASK TO PAUSE, DELAY, 2524 01:22:30,578 --> 01:22:35,083 NOT HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE AT 2525 01:22:35,083 --> 01:22:37,986 ALL AT ANY TIME? THAT EVENING? 2526 01:22:37,986 --> 01:22:39,854 -- NO, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT 2527 01:22:39,854 --> 01:22:43,191 QUESTION HONESTLY. OKAY. YEAH. 2528 01:22:43,191 --> 01:22:44,492 -- AND THE QUESTION REALLY COMES 2529 01:22:44,492 --> 01:22:46,127 BACK TO IT'S NOT ABOUT A PRESS 2530 01:22:46,127 --> 01:22:48,897 CONFERENCE, RIGHT? IT'S ABOUT 2531 01:22:48,897 --> 01:22:53,068 HOW DO WE SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC 2532 01:22:53,068 --> 01:22:55,437 TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO TO SLEEP 2533 01:22:55,437 --> 01:22:57,005 KNOWING THAT THEY'RE SAFE THAT 2534 01:22:57,005 --> 01:22:58,773 NIGHT. AND SO DID THE MAYOR'S 2535 01:22:58,773 --> 01:23:01,142 OFFICE AT ANY TIME. SLOW DOWN, 2536 01:23:01,142 --> 01:23:03,712 DELAY OR PAUSE THE RELEASE OF 2537 01:23:03,712 --> 01:23:05,480 INFORMATION AND THE MAYOR OR THE 2538 01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:07,649 DESIGNEE? 2539 01:23:07,649 --> 01:23:09,684 -- NO, I THINK TWO PIECES OF 2540 01:23:09,684 --> 01:23:10,352 INFORMATION THAT HAVEN'T BEEN 2541 01:23:10,352 --> 01:23:11,353 RAISED TODAY ARE THE FACT THAT 2542 01:23:11,353 --> 01:23:15,156 SPD WAS THE FIRST TO PUT UP 2543 01:23:15,156 --> 01:23:16,524 SOMETHING ON THEIR X ACCOUNT, OR 2544 01:23:16,524 --> 01:23:18,827 SPD BLOTTER. I CAN'T REMEMBER 2545 01:23:18,827 --> 01:23:20,395 WHERE, BUT THEY HAD INFORMATION 2546 01:23:20,395 --> 01:23:21,997 ABOUT THE SHOOTING GO OUT 2547 01:23:21,997 --> 01:23:23,398 IMMEDIATELY. I BELIEVE THE MAYOR 2548 01:23:23,398 --> 01:23:25,133 PUT OUT A STATEMENT LATER IN THE 2549 01:23:25,133 --> 01:23:26,901 EVENING BEFORE THE PRESS 2550 01:23:26,901 --> 01:23:28,803 CONFERENCE. THERE WERE A NUMBER 2551 01:23:28,803 --> 01:23:31,473 OF DIFFERENT CHANNELS THROUGH 2552 01:23:31,473 --> 01:23:32,107 WHICH COMMUNICATION COULD HAVE 2553 01:23:32,107 --> 01:23:33,641 GONE OUT AND PERHAPS SHOULD HAVE 2554 01:23:33,641 --> 01:23:38,279 GONE OUT, AND I CAN'T ANSWER 2555 01:23:38,279 --> 01:23:38,947 TODAY WHY THAT WASN'T HAPPENING, 2556 01:23:38,947 --> 01:23:39,981 WHAT THOSE CHANNELS COULD HAVE 2557 01:23:39,981 --> 01:23:41,983 BEEN. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT 2558 01:23:41,983 --> 01:23:43,051 WE WANT THIS REVIEW TO DO. WE 2559 01:23:43,051 --> 01:23:46,388 WANT THE CITY DESERVES TO HAVE 2560 01:23:46,388 --> 01:23:47,889 EXCELLENCE IN PUBLIC INFORMATION 2561 01:23:47,889 --> 01:23:49,224 GETTING OUT. AND WE WANT TO WE 2562 01:23:49,224 --> 01:23:50,825 WANT TO HAVE THE OIG CONDUCT 2563 01:23:50,825 --> 01:23:52,894 THIS AFTER ACTION REVIEW IN 2564 01:23:52,894 --> 01:23:54,529 SUPPORT OF THAT GOAL. 2565 01:23:54,529 --> 01:23:54,796 -- YEAH. 2566 01:23:54,796 --> 01:23:56,464 -- THANK YOU. CAN I ASK ONE MORE 2567 01:23:56,464 --> 01:23:57,265 QUESTION AND THEN I'LL BE DONE. 2568 01:23:57,265 --> 01:23:58,233 THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. 2569 01:23:58,233 --> 01:24:00,802 I KNOW I'M A GUEST TODAY. IT'S 2570 01:24:00,802 --> 01:24:02,470 JUST THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT 2571 01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:05,407 THIS IS A CHARGED ENVIRONMENT AT 2572 01:24:05,407 --> 01:24:06,307 THE MOMENT. AND THIS IS I'M 2573 01:24:06,307 --> 01:24:07,609 GOING TO TALK NOW ABOUT THE 2574 01:24:07,609 --> 01:24:09,477 POLICE CHIEF BEING ASKED TO 2575 01:24:09,477 --> 01:24:10,412 RESIGN, BECAUSE IT WAS SIMILAR 2576 01:24:10,412 --> 01:24:12,313 IN THE WAY THAT DAWN LINDELL WAS 2577 01:24:12,313 --> 01:24:16,951 ASKED WAS WAS FIRED, WAS ASKED 2578 01:24:16,951 --> 01:24:19,054 TO RESIGN, BUT THE DIFFERENCE 2579 01:24:19,054 --> 01:24:20,655 BETWEEN DIONNE AND AND ASKING 2580 01:24:20,655 --> 01:24:24,559 THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO RESIGN IS 2581 01:24:24,559 --> 01:24:27,095 DIONNE RUNS A UTILITY. SHE MAKES 2582 01:24:27,095 --> 01:24:28,196 SURE THAT OUR LIGHTS ARE ON AND 2583 01:24:28,196 --> 01:24:32,000 THAT OUR RATES AREN'T GOING UP 2584 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,703 TOO HIGH. BUT THAT SAME SET OF 2585 01:24:35,703 --> 01:24:38,907 EXPERIENCES THAT WE THAT I HAD 2586 01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:40,575 WITH DAWN LINDELL BEING LET GO 2587 01:24:40,575 --> 01:24:42,444 FROM THE CITY, OCCURRED WITH 2588 01:24:42,444 --> 01:24:43,978 CHIEF BARNES LAST WEEK WITH THE 2589 01:24:43,978 --> 01:24:44,646 MOST INFORMATION THAT I'VE BEEN 2590 01:24:44,646 --> 01:24:46,714 ABLE TO BE PROVIDED IS THAT THE 2591 01:24:46,714 --> 01:24:49,284 MAYOR HAS A DIFFERENT WINDOW 2592 01:24:49,284 --> 01:24:52,320 INTO THE OPERATIONS OF THE 2593 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:52,921 POLICE DEPARTMENT THAN THE 2594 01:24:52,921 --> 01:24:55,290 COUNCIL DOES. YET I HAVEN'T BEEN 2595 01:24:55,290 --> 01:24:58,126 TOLD WHAT SHE SEES THROUGH THAT 2596 01:24:58,126 --> 01:24:59,427 WINDOW. WHY THIS IS CHARGED IS 2597 01:24:59,427 --> 01:25:02,497 THERE'S THREE PEOPLE DEAD. WHY 2598 01:25:02,497 --> 01:25:05,867 THIS IS CHARGED IS THAT PEOPLE 2599 01:25:05,867 --> 01:25:07,836 SEATTLEITES WENT TO SLEEP THAT 2600 01:25:07,836 --> 01:25:10,271 NIGHT THINKING THAT THERE WAS 2601 01:25:10,271 --> 01:25:10,805 SOMEBODY INDISCRIMINATELY 2602 01:25:10,805 --> 01:25:12,040 KILLING PEOPLE AT THE SPACE 2603 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:16,511 NEEDLE THIS IS CHARGED BECAUSE 2604 01:25:16,511 --> 01:25:18,313 THE MAYOR ASKED THE POLICE CHIEF 2605 01:25:18,313 --> 01:25:19,681 TO RESIGN WITH VERY LITTLE 2606 01:25:19,681 --> 01:25:22,550 INFORMATION. AND SO THE BEST 2607 01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:25,353 THAT I CAN DO IS SURMISE THAT 2608 01:25:25,353 --> 01:25:26,654 BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME 2609 01:25:26,654 --> 01:25:28,490 COMMUNICATION DIFFERENCE OR 2610 01:25:28,490 --> 01:25:30,825 DIFFICULTY, THAT THE CHIEF WAS 2611 01:25:30,825 --> 01:25:33,561 ASKED TO RESIGN. THAT'S WHY 2612 01:25:33,561 --> 01:25:35,730 THIS IS CHARGED. AND THIS ALL 2613 01:25:35,730 --> 01:25:37,465 COULD BE AVOIDED IF THERE WAS 2614 01:25:37,465 --> 01:25:39,467 CLEAR, TRANSPARENT COMMUNICATION 2615 01:25:39,467 --> 01:25:41,136 FROM THE START. AND JUST LIKE 2616 01:25:41,136 --> 01:25:42,837 BACK TO YOU, CHIEF, I CANNOT 2617 01:25:42,837 --> 01:25:43,972 THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR NOT TAKING 2618 01:25:43,972 --> 01:25:44,906 YOUR ATTENTION OFF OF FINDING 2619 01:25:44,906 --> 01:25:46,641 THESE MURDERERS, BECAUSE WE 2620 01:25:46,641 --> 01:25:47,442 SHOULD BE SPENDING ALL OF THE 2621 01:25:47,442 --> 01:25:49,043 TIME THAT WE'VE SPENT THIS 2622 01:25:49,043 --> 01:25:52,847 MORNING JUST FOCUSED ON THAT. 2623 01:25:52,847 --> 01:25:54,282 -- THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER 2624 01:25:54,282 --> 01:25:56,518 STRAUSS, JUST TO CLOSE, BECAUSE 2625 01:25:56,518 --> 01:25:57,152 YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE NOW, I 2626 01:25:57,152 --> 01:25:58,953 KNOW THE CEREMONY HAS ALREADY 2627 01:25:58,953 --> 01:26:01,956 STARTED, BUT I WILL SAY AGAIN, 2628 01:26:01,956 --> 01:26:04,859 WE'LL THIS IS NOT GOING TO 2629 01:26:04,859 --> 01:26:05,760 STOP. THE 22nd SEPTEMBER 2630 01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,529 MEETING. THE OIG HAS NO IMPACT 2631 01:26:07,529 --> 01:26:12,000 ON THAT. AND WE WILL BE HITTING 2632 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:12,600 THE OPERATIONAL PIECES LIKE I 2633 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,469 CARE ABOUT THE CRG. FOR THOSE 2634 01:26:14,469 --> 01:26:16,237 WHO WANT TO KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I 2635 01:26:16,237 --> 01:26:17,639 CARE ABOUT. BUT I ALSO CARE 2636 01:26:17,639 --> 01:26:19,374 ABOUT THE COMMS PIECE AND 2637 01:26:19,374 --> 01:26:21,743 WHAT'S CLEAR FROM THIS IS IT 2638 01:26:21,743 --> 01:26:23,111 DOESN'T HELP GOING TO THE POINT 2639 01:26:23,111 --> 01:26:24,712 ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS, WHEN THE 2640 01:26:24,712 --> 01:26:25,780 MAYOR SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE I 2641 01:26:25,780 --> 01:26:28,049 HAVE A BETTER WINDOW. WHAT'S 2642 01:26:28,049 --> 01:26:29,083 CLEAR HERE IS THAT SHE DOES NOT 2643 01:26:29,083 --> 01:26:30,852 HAVE A BETTER WINDOW. SHE DOES 2644 01:26:30,852 --> 01:26:32,487 NOT HAVE A BETTER WINDOW THAN I 2645 01:26:32,487 --> 01:26:34,989 DO. SHE DOES NOT HAVE A BETTER 2646 01:26:34,989 --> 01:26:35,523 WINDOW THAN PROBABLY THE 2647 01:26:35,523 --> 01:26:39,160 MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL. AND SO 2648 01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:40,528 WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON 22nd 2649 01:26:40,528 --> 01:26:42,397 SEPTEMBER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 2650 01:26:42,397 --> 01:26:44,465 CLERK. CAN WE MOVE TO THE SECOND 2651 01:26:44,465 --> 01:26:45,533 ITEM OF BUSINESS WITH THE CLERK? 2652 01:26:45,533 --> 01:26:46,868 PLEASE READ AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2653 01:26:46,868 --> 01:26:49,237 TWO IN THE RECORD. 2654 01:26:49,237 --> 01:26:51,005 -- KING COUNTY JAIL, MEDICAL 2655 01:26:51,005 --> 01:26:53,308 DEFERRAL DATA AND IMPACTS ON 2656 01:26:53,308 --> 01:26:55,276 HARBORVIEW MEDICAL CENTER AND 2657 01:26:55,276 --> 01:26:59,447 SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT 2658 01:26:59,447 --> 01:27:07,422 -- THANK YOU. 2659 01:27:07,555 --> 01:27:12,827 AND AS THEY COME UP TO THE 2660 01:27:12,827 --> 01:27:14,362 TABLE, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THIS 2661 01:27:14,362 --> 01:27:16,564 IS THIS IS A PART OF THE PROCESS 2662 01:27:16,564 --> 01:27:18,032 THAT WE HAVE. THIS IS PART OF 2663 01:27:18,032 --> 01:27:19,000 THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD. WE 2664 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,702 STARTED WITH THE. OH, SPEAKING 2665 01:27:20,702 --> 01:27:22,937 OF OIG AND THEIR REPORT ON 2666 01:27:22,937 --> 01:27:24,472 PUBLIC DRUG USE AND POSSESSION 2667 01:27:24,472 --> 01:27:26,274 EARLIER THIS YEAR IN COMMITTEE 2668 01:27:26,274 --> 01:27:30,144 AS PART OF THE PROCESS WITH THE 2669 01:27:30,144 --> 01:27:30,745 CARE AND ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE 2670 01:27:30,745 --> 01:27:31,713 WITH OUR PUBLIC DRUG USE AND 2671 01:27:31,713 --> 01:27:32,981 POSSESSION, WE REALLY HIGHLIGHTS 2672 01:27:32,981 --> 01:27:34,849 THAT WE HAVE TWO ISSUES. ONE IS 2673 01:27:34,849 --> 01:27:36,818 CONFIDENCE IN THE LEAD PROGRAM, 2674 01:27:36,818 --> 01:27:38,786 BUT ALSO MEDICAL DECLINES. AND I 2675 01:27:38,786 --> 01:27:41,222 WANT TO EXPRESS A VERY DEEP 2676 01:27:41,222 --> 01:27:44,058 THANK YOU TO HARBORVIEW FOR 2677 01:27:44,058 --> 01:27:45,693 ATTENDING, AND WE'LL START WITH 2678 01:27:45,693 --> 01:27:46,527 INTRODUCTIONS. CAN WE START WITH 2679 01:27:46,527 --> 01:27:49,397 YOU, SIR, AND THEN MOVE ACROSS 2680 01:27:49,397 --> 01:27:56,304 THE TABLE TO MISS SMITH? 2681 01:27:56,304 --> 01:27:57,639 -- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 2682 01:27:57,639 --> 01:27:59,407 -- HI. MY NAME IS IAN GOODHEW. 2683 01:27:59,407 --> 01:28:00,642 I'M THE CHIEF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 2684 01:28:00,642 --> 01:28:02,110 OFFICER AND VP FOR GOVERNMENT 2685 01:28:02,110 --> 01:28:04,812 AFFAIRS FOR UW MEDICINE. WHICH 2686 01:28:04,812 --> 01:28:07,148 PART OF UW MEDICINE IS TO 2687 01:28:07,148 --> 01:28:07,715 OPERATE? HARBORVIEW MEDICAL 2688 01:28:07,715 --> 01:28:08,650 CENTER. SO I ALSO HAVE THE HONOR 2689 01:28:08,650 --> 01:28:10,685 OF REPRESENTING THE FRONTLINE 2690 01:28:10,685 --> 01:28:11,786 WORKERS AT HARBORVIEW. THANK YOU 2691 01:28:11,786 --> 01:28:13,021 FOR HAVING ME. 2692 01:28:13,021 --> 01:28:15,189 -- THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 2693 01:28:15,189 --> 01:28:17,058 -- I, LIEUTENANT NATE SHOPE. I 2694 01:28:17,058 --> 01:28:18,326 WORK DIRECTLY WITH CHIEF ROB 2695 01:28:18,326 --> 01:28:20,995 BROWN 2696 01:28:20,995 --> 01:28:22,096 -- GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. I AM 2697 01:28:22,096 --> 01:28:23,398 ROB BROWN, THE CHIEF OF PATROL 2698 01:28:23,398 --> 01:28:25,366 OPERATIONS, SEATTLE POLICE. 2699 01:28:25,366 --> 01:28:26,701 -- GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS 2700 01:28:26,701 --> 01:28:28,069 SARAH SMITH, THE SEATTLE POLICE 2701 01:28:28,069 --> 01:28:30,371 DEPARTMENT CHIEF OPERATING 2702 01:28:30,371 --> 01:28:30,638 OFFICER. 2703 01:28:30,638 --> 01:28:33,174 -- THANK YOU. OKAY, OVER TO YOU. 2704 01:28:33,174 --> 01:28:35,076 I, I KNOW WE HAVE A BRIEFING 2705 01:28:35,076 --> 01:28:37,078 FROM SPD, BUT I WE'RE STARTING 2706 01:28:37,078 --> 01:28:40,314 WITH YOU OR STARTING WITH, OKAY, 2707 01:28:40,314 --> 01:28:40,948 STARTING WITH MISS SMITH. OKAY. 2708 01:28:40,948 --> 01:28:43,151 GO AHEAD, MISS SMITH. TAKE IT 2709 01:28:43,151 --> 01:28:43,351 AWAY. 2710 01:28:43,351 --> 01:28:44,185 -- ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BRANT, 2711 01:28:44,185 --> 01:28:45,186 DO YOU MIND JUST GOING ON TO THE 2712 01:28:45,186 --> 01:28:45,620 NEXT SLIDE FOR ME. 2713 01:28:45,620 --> 01:28:47,055 -- AND WE'LL HOLD QUESTIONS 2714 01:28:47,055 --> 01:28:48,323 UNTIL THE END. I APPRECIATE IT, 2715 01:28:48,323 --> 01:28:49,691 BUT WE WON'T HAVE AS MANY 2716 01:28:49,691 --> 01:28:51,125 QUESTIONS AS WE DID WITH AGENDA 2717 01:28:51,125 --> 01:28:51,392 ITEM ONE. 2718 01:28:51,392 --> 01:28:53,461 -- I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU TO IT. 2719 01:28:53,461 --> 01:28:56,230 THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, 2720 01:28:56,230 --> 01:28:56,864 I AM VERY THANKFUL TO BE ABLE TO 2721 01:28:56,864 --> 01:29:00,068 HAVE THIS SPACE TO TALK ABOUT AN 2722 01:29:00,068 --> 01:29:01,569 ISSUE THAT THE SEATTLE POLICE 2723 01:29:01,569 --> 01:29:05,440 DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO SEATTLE AND 2724 01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:06,007 OUR HEALTH SYSTEM IS FACING 2725 01:29:06,007 --> 01:29:06,641 BEFORE I GET INTO THIS, THOUGH, 2726 01:29:06,641 --> 01:29:08,776 I DO WANT TO FRAME US IN WHY WE 2727 01:29:08,776 --> 01:29:10,411 ARE HERE AND WHAT OUR MISSION 2728 01:29:10,411 --> 01:29:13,414 IS. IT IS THE MISSION OF THE 2729 01:29:13,414 --> 01:29:15,183 SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO 2730 01:29:15,183 --> 01:29:18,186 SERVE THE CITY OF SEATTLE WITH 2731 01:29:18,186 --> 01:29:18,820 PROFESSIONALISM AND DEDICATION 2732 01:29:18,820 --> 01:29:21,122 TO KEEP OUR CITY SAFE, TO 2733 01:29:21,122 --> 01:29:23,558 PREVENT CRIME AND ENFORCE OUR 2734 01:29:23,558 --> 01:29:26,427 LAWS. HOWEVER, WE CAN'T DO IT 2735 01:29:26,427 --> 01:29:28,262 ALONE. TODAY. WE ARE HERE WITH 2736 01:29:28,262 --> 01:29:30,631 OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, BUT 2737 01:29:30,631 --> 01:29:31,766 THERE ARE ALSO SO MANY OTHER 2738 01:29:31,766 --> 01:29:32,767 INDIVIDUALS THAT WE NEED IN 2739 01:29:32,767 --> 01:29:35,303 ORDER TO KEEP OUR CITY SAFE. IT 2740 01:29:35,303 --> 01:29:36,938 INCLUDES THE COUNCIL, THE 2741 01:29:36,938 --> 01:29:38,306 EXECUTIVE, THE COUNTY, OUR 2742 01:29:38,306 --> 01:29:39,440 COMMUNITY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO 2743 01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:40,508 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE WE 2744 01:29:40,508 --> 01:29:42,977 CAN'T DO THIS ALONE, I ALSO 2745 01:29:42,977 --> 01:29:45,546 WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS 2746 01:29:45,546 --> 01:29:47,415 WORK IS GOING TO CHANGE THE 2747 01:29:47,415 --> 01:29:49,917 NEEDS OF THE CITY HAVE BEEN 2748 01:29:49,917 --> 01:29:50,518 CHANGING THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE 2749 01:29:50,518 --> 01:29:53,421 ARE SEEING ON THE STREETS HAVE 2750 01:29:53,421 --> 01:29:54,756 BEEN CHANGING, AND WE AS A 2751 01:29:54,756 --> 01:29:57,325 SYSTEM HAVE TO CHANGE WITH IT. 2752 01:29:57,325 --> 01:29:59,360 SO TODAY'S OBJECTIVE, TODAY'S 2753 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,463 OBJECTIVE IS TO SHOW YOU ALL AND 2754 01:30:02,463 --> 01:30:04,165 INFORM YOU ALL ON AN ISSUE THAT 2755 01:30:04,165 --> 01:30:05,666 WE ARE FACED WITH, AND DISCUSS 2756 01:30:05,666 --> 01:30:08,102 SOME NEXT STEPS THAT WE CAN TAKE 2757 01:30:08,102 --> 01:30:10,271 AS A SYSTEM WITH ALL OF THE 2758 01:30:10,271 --> 01:30:14,008 PARTNERS INVOLVED. NEXT SLIDE. 2759 01:30:14,008 --> 01:30:15,610 SO WHAT ARE WE HERE FOR? WE'RE 2760 01:30:15,610 --> 01:30:17,211 HERE TO TALK ABOUT JAIL 2761 01:30:17,211 --> 01:30:19,147 DEFERRALS OR JAIL DECLINES. SO 2762 01:30:19,147 --> 01:30:21,315 TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT, BECAUSE I 2763 01:30:21,315 --> 01:30:22,350 THINK BACKGROUND IS IMPORTANT, 2764 01:30:22,350 --> 01:30:23,151 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US ALL TO 2765 01:30:23,151 --> 01:30:25,153 KNOW THAT THE KING COUNTY JAIL 2766 01:30:25,153 --> 01:30:26,654 HAS JURISDICTION OVER OUR FELONY 2767 01:30:26,654 --> 01:30:28,422 ARRESTS. SO THAT IS SOMETHING 2768 01:30:28,422 --> 01:30:29,557 THAT IS SET ALONE. THAT IS HOW 2769 01:30:29,557 --> 01:30:33,060 IT IS IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE. 2770 01:30:33,060 --> 01:30:35,129 ALSO, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE 2771 01:30:35,129 --> 01:30:35,663 THAT IN 2011, THE CITY OF 2772 01:30:35,663 --> 01:30:37,732 SEATTLE WENT INTO AN INTERLOCAL 2773 01:30:37,732 --> 01:30:39,901 AGREEMENT FOR MISDEMEANOR JAIL 2774 01:30:39,901 --> 01:30:40,635 BOOKINGS. AND SO WHAT THAT 2775 01:30:40,635 --> 01:30:41,803 ESSENTIALLY IS SAYING IS THAT 2776 01:30:41,803 --> 01:30:43,771 THE KING COUNTY JAIL IS WHERE WE 2777 01:30:43,771 --> 01:30:45,540 ARE TAKING OUR MISDEMEANORS FROM 2778 01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:47,742 THE SEATTLE AREA. WE HAVE A 2779 01:30:47,742 --> 01:30:51,212 CONTRACT FOR THAT. THAT CONTRACT 2780 01:30:51,212 --> 01:30:52,847 RIGHT NOW IS APPROXIMATELY $25 2781 01:30:52,847 --> 01:30:53,481 MILLION ANNUALLY. AND CURRENTLY 2782 01:30:53,481 --> 01:30:57,051 IT'S FOR 135 MISDEMEANOR BEDS 2783 01:30:57,051 --> 01:30:58,319 ON A DAILY AVERAGE. THAT CAN 2784 01:30:58,319 --> 01:31:00,488 CHANGE. IT'S AN AVERAGE. I WILL 2785 01:31:00,488 --> 01:31:03,257 ALSO NOTE THAT AT THIS POINT IN 2786 01:31:03,257 --> 01:31:08,062 TIME WE ARE ONLY USING AN 2787 01:31:08,062 --> 01:31:08,629 AVERAGE OF 77 BEDS PER DAY. 2788 01:31:08,629 --> 01:31:11,365 THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY SINCE 2789 01:31:11,365 --> 01:31:12,533 2012 THAT'S HAPPENED. WE HAVE 2790 01:31:12,533 --> 01:31:13,668 TO ACKNOWLEDGE COVID AND SOME OF 2791 01:31:13,668 --> 01:31:14,802 THE CAPACITY CHANGES THAT 2792 01:31:14,802 --> 01:31:16,537 HAPPENED, BOTH IN THE LAW 2793 01:31:16,537 --> 01:31:19,207 ENFORCEMENT SIDE, BUT ALSO IN 2794 01:31:19,207 --> 01:31:19,874 THE JAIL. WE CHANGED SOME OF THE 2795 01:31:19,874 --> 01:31:20,808 RESTRICTIONS AROUND 2796 01:31:20,808 --> 01:31:23,811 MISDEMEANORS, AND THAT ONLY WAS 2797 01:31:23,811 --> 01:31:26,480 CHANGED IN 2023 AFTER AMENDMENT. 2798 01:31:26,480 --> 01:31:29,984 SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE STILL 2799 01:31:29,984 --> 01:31:33,521 NOT GOTTEN ANYWHERE CLOSE TO 135 2800 01:31:33,521 --> 01:31:34,488 MISDEMEANOR BEDS. AND WE'VE 2801 01:31:34,488 --> 01:31:36,858 BEEN RUNNING INTO AN INCREASING 2802 01:31:36,858 --> 01:31:38,059 ISSUE WITH SOME OF OUR 2803 01:31:38,059 --> 01:31:39,093 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TRYING TO 2804 01:31:39,093 --> 01:31:41,629 BOOK INTO JAIL, BEING DEFERRED 2805 01:31:41,629 --> 01:31:44,365 OR DECLINED DUE TO AN EMERGENCY 2806 01:31:44,365 --> 01:31:46,300 MEDICAL NEED. NOW, THAT IS NOT 2807 01:31:46,300 --> 01:31:47,869 TO SAY THAT WE DON'T THINK 2808 01:31:47,869 --> 01:31:48,502 THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE WANT TO 2809 01:31:48,502 --> 01:31:49,303 MAKE SURE THAT THE SEATTLE 2810 01:31:49,303 --> 01:31:51,706 POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WE ARE 2811 01:31:51,706 --> 01:31:53,140 KEEPING EVERYONE SAFE, BUT IT IS 2812 01:31:53,140 --> 01:31:54,575 IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS 2813 01:31:54,575 --> 01:31:56,244 WE ARE DOING THESE DEFERRALS, WE 2814 01:31:56,244 --> 01:31:58,246 HAVE TO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY. 2815 01:31:58,246 --> 01:32:00,815 THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES 2816 01:32:00,815 --> 01:32:02,550 GOING INTO THAT, SO I JUST WANT 2817 01:32:02,550 --> 01:32:03,484 TO BRING THAT AHEAD AND SAY THAT 2818 01:32:03,484 --> 01:32:06,554 WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT. NEXT 2819 01:32:06,554 --> 01:32:08,389 SLIDE. SO NOW I'M GOING TO HAND 2820 01:32:08,389 --> 01:32:10,424 IT OVER TO CHIEF BROWN TO 2821 01:32:10,424 --> 01:32:12,126 DISCUSS WHAT IS ACTUALLY 2822 01:32:12,126 --> 01:32:13,227 HAPPENING IN THE DEFERRAL 2823 01:32:13,227 --> 01:32:13,895 PROCESS. AND HE'S GOING TO USE 2824 01:32:13,895 --> 01:32:15,129 AN ACTUAL EXAMPLE TO WALK 2825 01:32:15,129 --> 01:32:15,396 THROUGH. 2826 01:32:15,396 --> 01:32:17,598 -- OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO START 2827 01:32:17,598 --> 01:32:19,333 BY TALKING ABOUT THE BASIC 2828 01:32:19,333 --> 01:32:20,902 PROCESS. BUT BEFORE THAT I WANT 2829 01:32:20,902 --> 01:32:22,570 TO HIGHLIGHT AND EMPHASIZE AS 2830 01:32:22,570 --> 01:32:23,571 THE CHIEF PATROL OPERATIONS, I 2831 01:32:23,571 --> 01:32:27,975 ATTEND MANY ROLL CALLS. THIS IS 2832 01:32:27,975 --> 01:32:28,609 THE NUMBER ONE TOP FRUSTRATION 2833 01:32:28,609 --> 01:32:29,977 OF OFFICERS IN PATROL IN 2834 01:32:29,977 --> 01:32:31,546 PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES. THIS 2835 01:32:31,546 --> 01:32:32,747 TOPS THE LIST. IT COMES UP EVERY 2836 01:32:32,747 --> 01:32:35,416 TIME. SO WITH THAT, TALKING 2837 01:32:35,416 --> 01:32:36,450 ABOUT THE BASIC PROCESS, 2838 01:32:36,450 --> 01:32:38,219 TYPICALLY WHEN AN ARREST IS 2839 01:32:38,219 --> 01:32:39,554 MADE, PROBABLE CAUSE IS 2840 01:32:39,554 --> 01:32:40,054 ESTABLISHED BY OFFICERS 2841 01:32:40,054 --> 01:32:41,022 SOMEWHERE ON THE STREETS OF 2842 01:32:41,022 --> 01:32:43,124 SEATTLE. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE 2843 01:32:43,124 --> 01:32:43,791 THE DECISION TO BRING THAT 2844 01:32:43,791 --> 01:32:44,759 PERSON TO THE KING COUNTY JAIL. 2845 01:32:44,759 --> 01:32:46,794 THAT'S USUALLY ABOUT 30 MINUTES 2846 01:32:46,794 --> 01:32:47,428 CAN BE UP TO TWO HOURS IF THEY 2847 01:32:47,428 --> 01:32:49,730 TAKE THEM TO A PRECINCT FOR 2848 01:32:49,730 --> 01:32:51,198 ADDITIONAL PROCESSING, EVIDENCE 2849 01:32:51,198 --> 01:32:52,533 PROCESSING, BUT THEY'RE 2850 01:32:52,533 --> 01:32:54,535 ULTIMATELY GOING TO FILL OUT AN 2851 01:32:54,535 --> 01:32:56,103 AFFIDAVIT OF PROBABLE CAUSE FOR 2852 01:32:56,103 --> 01:32:57,271 A CRIME AND BRING THEM TO THE 2853 01:32:57,271 --> 01:32:58,506 DOORS OF THE KING COUNTY JAIL. 2854 01:32:58,506 --> 01:33:00,775 THEY ENTER. AND PART OF THE 2855 01:33:00,775 --> 01:33:02,310 PROCESS OF THE INTAKE IS THAT 2856 01:33:02,310 --> 01:33:04,111 THERE ARE SCREENING QUESTIONS 2857 01:33:04,111 --> 01:33:05,446 THAT THE. AND I WANT TO 2858 01:33:05,446 --> 01:33:07,248 EMPHASIZE THIS TO IT'S NOT 2859 01:33:07,248 --> 01:33:09,383 ACTUALLY KING COUNTY JAIL STAFF. 2860 01:33:09,383 --> 01:33:11,218 IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH. HAS A 2861 01:33:11,218 --> 01:33:12,887 NURSE THAT'S ON THERE ALWAYS 2862 01:33:12,887 --> 01:33:14,021 HAVE THAT STAFFED. AND THERE'S 2863 01:33:14,021 --> 01:33:15,389 ALWAYS A MEDICAL SCREENING. 2864 01:33:15,389 --> 01:33:17,091 THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS 2865 01:33:17,091 --> 01:33:19,493 AMONGST A VARIETY. I HAVE A FORM 2866 01:33:19,493 --> 01:33:20,461 THAT HAS A VARIETY OF 2867 01:33:20,461 --> 01:33:21,862 CHECKBOXES, BUT I WANT TO TALK 2868 01:33:21,862 --> 01:33:24,565 ABOUT TWO OF THEM THAT ARE 2869 01:33:24,565 --> 01:33:26,133 SPECIFICALLY ON THEIR MEDICAL 2870 01:33:26,133 --> 01:33:28,235 SCREENING CHECKLIST. THERE IS A 2871 01:33:28,235 --> 01:33:31,939 QUESTION THAT THE NURSE POSES TO 2872 01:33:31,939 --> 01:33:33,341 THE ARRESTEE OF REGARDING SEXUAL 2873 01:33:33,341 --> 01:33:35,676 ASSAULT. RAPE. WITHIN THE LAST 2874 01:33:35,676 --> 01:33:37,612 FIVE DAYS. THE OTHER ONE, AND 2875 01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:38,779 WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO 2876 01:33:38,779 --> 01:33:41,182 EXAMPLES OF THIS LATER IN MY 2877 01:33:41,182 --> 01:33:43,117 PRESENTATION. BUT INGESTED DRUGS 2878 01:33:43,117 --> 01:33:45,186 WITHIN SIX HOURS. SO THESE 2879 01:33:45,186 --> 01:33:45,619 QUESTIONS ARE ASKED 2880 01:33:45,619 --> 01:33:47,822 AUTOMATICALLY, NOT WAITING FOR 2881 01:33:47,822 --> 01:33:49,090 THE ARRESTEE TO BRING THESE 2882 01:33:49,090 --> 01:33:54,195 ISSUES UP. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS 2883 01:33:54,195 --> 01:33:54,829 MEDICAL SCREENING IS CONDUCTED. 2884 01:33:54,829 --> 01:33:58,532 AND THEN WE HEAR WHETHER OR NOT 2885 01:33:58,532 --> 01:33:59,166 THE JAIL IS GOING TO ACCEPT THIS 2886 01:33:59,166 --> 01:34:00,034 PERSON IN OR IF THEY'RE GOING TO 2887 01:34:00,034 --> 01:34:02,169 BE MEDICALLY DECLINED, LIKE 2888 01:34:02,169 --> 01:34:05,306 WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING INTO. 2889 01:34:05,306 --> 01:34:06,040 IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR THERE TO 2890 01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,110 BE A MEDICAL DECLINE. ONCE THAT 2891 01:34:09,110 --> 01:34:11,612 HAPPENS, THE JAIL DOES NOT TAKE 2892 01:34:11,612 --> 01:34:12,947 CUSTODY OF THE ARRESTEE. THEY 2893 01:34:12,947 --> 01:34:14,015 ARE HANDED BACK OVER TO THE 2894 01:34:14,015 --> 01:34:15,950 OFFICER AS A RESPONSIBILITY OF 2895 01:34:15,950 --> 01:34:18,686 THE OFFICER TO TRANSPORT THAT 2896 01:34:18,686 --> 01:34:19,520 PERSON, THAT ARRESTEE, TO 2897 01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,088 FURTHER MEDICAL CARE UP TO A 2898 01:34:21,088 --> 01:34:23,024 HOSPITAL. TYPICALLY, HARBORVIEW 2899 01:34:23,024 --> 01:34:25,393 MEDICAL CENTER IS WHERE THEY'RE 2900 01:34:25,393 --> 01:34:26,027 DIRECTED. A DECISION HAS TO BE 2901 01:34:26,027 --> 01:34:28,396 MADE AT THAT POINT, AND I'M 2902 01:34:28,396 --> 01:34:29,597 GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF ABOUT 2903 01:34:29,597 --> 01:34:31,432 THIS. BUT IF IT'S A FELONY 2904 01:34:31,432 --> 01:34:32,133 ARREST, TYPICALLY THEY'RE GOING 2905 01:34:32,133 --> 01:34:33,667 TO GUARD IT. NOT ALWAYS. THERE 2906 01:34:33,667 --> 01:34:35,469 MAY BE GREATER DEMANDS FOR 2907 01:34:35,469 --> 01:34:39,140 OFFICERS ON THE STREETS. SO THEY 2908 01:34:39,140 --> 01:34:39,306 MAY 2909 01:34:39,306 --> 01:34:40,207 -- DECIDE THAT FOR A PROPERTY 2910 01:34:40,207 --> 01:34:41,208 CRIME, WHETHER IT'S NOT, YOU 2911 01:34:41,208 --> 01:34:42,676 KNOW, A VICTIM OF VIOLENCE, THEY 2912 01:34:42,676 --> 01:34:46,047 MAY DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO 2913 01:34:46,047 --> 01:34:47,915 STEP AWAY FROM THAT. AND BECAUSE 2914 01:34:47,915 --> 01:34:49,450 THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES, 2915 01:34:49,450 --> 01:34:52,053 IT'S USUALLY SIX OR MORE HOURS 2916 01:34:52,053 --> 01:34:53,220 THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO SIT ON 2917 01:34:53,220 --> 01:34:54,488 SOMEBODY TO GET THEM MEDICALLY 2918 01:34:54,488 --> 01:34:56,557 CLEARED, TO BRING THEM BACK TO 2919 01:34:56,557 --> 01:34:57,224 JAIL. SO THEY MAKE THAT DECISION 2920 01:34:57,224 --> 01:34:59,994 IF IT'S A MISDEMEANOR, AND I'M 2921 01:34:59,994 --> 01:35:00,594 SPEAKING IN GENERALITY HERE, 2922 01:35:00,594 --> 01:35:02,129 MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THEY ARE 2923 01:35:02,129 --> 01:35:03,431 NOT GOING TO GUARD THAT PERSON 2924 01:35:03,431 --> 01:35:04,965 BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S SIX OR MORE 2925 01:35:04,965 --> 01:35:08,069 HOURS. IT'S AN INCREDIBLE DRAIN 2926 01:35:08,069 --> 01:35:10,571 ON OUR STAFFING RESOURCES TO 2927 01:35:10,571 --> 01:35:13,274 HAVE TO STAFF AN OFFICER THERE 2928 01:35:13,274 --> 01:35:14,842 AND TELL THEY'RE MEDICALLY 2929 01:35:14,842 --> 01:35:15,476 CLEARED. AND I SAY SIX OR MORE 2930 01:35:15,476 --> 01:35:17,378 HOURS. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR AN 2931 01:35:17,378 --> 01:35:18,846 EXAMPLE AS I GIVE LATER. IT CAN 2932 01:35:18,846 --> 01:35:19,947 BE 12 HOURS. IT CAN BE UP TO 24 2933 01:35:19,947 --> 01:35:22,283 HOURS. SO WITH THAT, I'VE 2934 01:35:22,283 --> 01:35:23,651 TALKED THROUGH THE PROCESS. 2935 01:35:23,651 --> 01:35:23,851 YEAH. 2936 01:35:23,851 --> 01:35:26,320 -- ALL RIGHT. 2937 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:32,126 -- ALL RIGHT. CONCERNS THIS 2938 01:35:32,126 --> 01:35:33,894 DEFERRAL PROCESS WAS INTENDED TO 2939 01:35:33,894 --> 01:35:35,996 KEEP THE INDIVIDUAL SAFE. LEADS 2940 01:35:35,996 --> 01:35:36,464 TO SEVERAL UNINTENDED 2941 01:35:36,464 --> 01:35:39,667 CONSEQUENCES FOR THE CITY. SO I 2942 01:35:39,667 --> 01:35:41,068 KIND OF ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED 2943 01:35:41,068 --> 01:35:44,171 THIS. BUT YOU HAVE A PUBLIC 2944 01:35:44,171 --> 01:35:45,372 HEALTH NURSE WITH A HIGH LEVEL 2945 01:35:45,372 --> 01:35:46,574 OF MEDICAL TRAINING, AND YOU 2946 01:35:46,574 --> 01:35:48,275 HAVE AN INFIRMARY AT THE KING 2947 01:35:48,275 --> 01:35:50,144 COUNTY JAIL. AND YET THIS NURSE 2948 01:35:50,144 --> 01:35:51,879 IS SAYING, NO, WE CAN'T ACCEPT 2949 01:35:51,879 --> 01:35:53,481 THIS PERSON. WE'VE IDENTIFIED A 2950 01:35:53,481 --> 01:35:55,216 MEDICAL ISSUE. THEY MAY NOT EVEN 2951 01:35:55,216 --> 01:35:55,916 TELL THE OFFICER WHAT THAT 2952 01:35:55,916 --> 01:35:57,451 MEDICAL ISSUE IS, BECAUSE 2953 01:35:57,451 --> 01:35:58,152 THEY'RE GOING TO WRITE IT DOWN 2954 01:35:58,152 --> 01:35:58,819 ON A PIECE OF PAPER THAT'S PUT 2955 01:35:58,819 --> 01:36:00,187 IN AN ENVELOPE FOR THE OFFICER 2956 01:36:00,187 --> 01:36:02,289 TO TRANSPORT THIS PERSON TO THE 2957 01:36:02,289 --> 01:36:03,757 JAIL. SO NOW IT'S THE 2958 01:36:03,757 --> 01:36:04,592 RESPONSIBILITY OF AN OFFICER 2959 01:36:04,592 --> 01:36:06,293 WHOSE LEVEL OF MEDICAL TRAINING 2960 01:36:06,293 --> 01:36:08,095 TYPICALLY IS GOING TO BE CPR AND 2961 01:36:08,095 --> 01:36:10,698 STOPPING MAJOR BLOOD LOSS TO 2962 01:36:10,698 --> 01:36:13,033 PERFORM THIS TRANSPORT IN THE 2963 01:36:13,033 --> 01:36:14,368 PATROL CAR TO A MEDICAL 2964 01:36:14,368 --> 01:36:16,303 FACILITY. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF 2965 01:36:16,303 --> 01:36:17,438 THINGS THAT CONCERNS HERE. THE 2966 01:36:17,438 --> 01:36:18,606 LEVEL OF CARE THEY'RE BEING 2967 01:36:18,606 --> 01:36:19,974 HANDED BACK DOWN TO A LOWER 2968 01:36:19,974 --> 01:36:22,276 LEVEL OF CARE AFTER THEY'VE BEEN 2969 01:36:22,276 --> 01:36:24,678 IDENTIFIED WITH A MEDICAL ISSUE. 2970 01:36:24,678 --> 01:36:29,283 THE WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT 2971 01:36:29,283 --> 01:36:31,285 THE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN 2972 01:36:31,285 --> 01:36:31,852 MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH 2973 01:36:31,852 --> 01:36:32,453 PUBLIC HEALTH AS WELL AS THE 2974 01:36:32,453 --> 01:36:34,522 JAIL, THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT 2975 01:36:34,522 --> 01:36:35,422 LIABILITY, BUT WHAT THEY'RE 2976 01:36:35,422 --> 01:36:36,857 DOING IS THEY'RE HANDING THE 2977 01:36:36,857 --> 01:36:39,627 LIABILITY OVER TO THE CITY OF 2978 01:36:39,627 --> 01:36:43,397 SEATTLE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE 2979 01:36:43,397 --> 01:36:44,498 POINT I WANTED TO MAKE THERE. 2980 01:36:44,498 --> 01:36:47,067 LET ME MOVE ON TO THIS PROCESS 2981 01:36:47,067 --> 01:36:48,402 PLACES INSURMOUNTABLE STRAIN ON 2982 01:36:48,402 --> 01:36:49,036 OUR STAFFING CAPACITY BECAUSE OF 2983 01:36:49,036 --> 01:36:50,538 THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES. 2984 01:36:50,538 --> 01:36:51,205 I'VE ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED THAT. 2985 01:36:51,205 --> 01:36:52,406 I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT 2986 01:36:52,406 --> 01:36:54,074 AGAIN, BUT THERE'S MULTIPLE 2987 01:36:54,074 --> 01:36:55,543 HOURS THAT ARE TIED UP, MULTIPLE 2988 01:36:55,543 --> 01:36:56,644 OFFICERS THAT ARE TIED UP IN 2989 01:36:56,644 --> 01:36:59,780 HOSPITAL GUARDS. FINALLY, IT 2990 01:36:59,780 --> 01:37:00,414 STRAINS THE CITY'S EMERGENCY 2991 01:37:00,414 --> 01:37:01,282 CARE CAPACITY AS THESE 2992 01:37:01,282 --> 01:37:03,050 INDIVIDUALS ARE NOW BEING ADDED 2993 01:37:03,050 --> 01:37:06,587 TO THEIR WAITING ROOMS. SO THE 2994 01:37:06,587 --> 01:37:08,756 PLACE I ALREADY MENTIONED, HOW 2995 01:37:08,756 --> 01:37:09,523 HARBORVIEW MEDICAL CENTER IS THE 2996 01:37:09,523 --> 01:37:10,491 PLACE WHERE THEY'RE DIRECTED TO 2997 01:37:10,491 --> 01:37:11,458 GO. THIS IS THE PREFERRED PLACE. 2998 01:37:11,458 --> 01:37:13,561 THIS IS WHAT KING COUNTY JAIL 2999 01:37:13,561 --> 01:37:14,929 APPEARS TO HAVE AGREED. AND 3000 01:37:14,929 --> 01:37:16,497 THAT'S OUR EXPECTATION, IS THAT 3001 01:37:16,497 --> 01:37:17,965 HARBORVIEW, UNLESS THERE'S SOME 3002 01:37:17,965 --> 01:37:19,967 COMPELLING REASON TO GO 3003 01:37:19,967 --> 01:37:20,534 ELSEWHERE, HARBORVIEW, THE 3004 01:37:20,534 --> 01:37:22,670 REGIONAL TRAUMA CENTER, THEY'RE 3005 01:37:22,670 --> 01:37:24,371 TRIAGING WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING 3006 01:37:24,371 --> 01:37:25,940 ON BOARD. AND SO QUITE OFTEN, 3007 01:37:25,940 --> 01:37:30,477 SOMEBODY WHO IS AN ARRESTEE THAT 3008 01:37:30,477 --> 01:37:31,812 HAS A RELATIVELY LOW LEVEL 3009 01:37:31,812 --> 01:37:32,746 MEDICAL ISSUE, THEY'RE GOING TO 3010 01:37:32,746 --> 01:37:34,715 BE WAITING FOR A VERY, VERY, 3011 01:37:34,715 --> 01:37:36,250 VERY LONG TIME INSIDE OF 3012 01:37:36,250 --> 01:37:37,384 HARBORVIEW IN THEIR IN THEIR 3013 01:37:37,384 --> 01:37:38,085 EMERGENCY ROOM. I DON'T KNOW IF 3014 01:37:38,085 --> 01:37:39,320 YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE, BUT IT'S 3015 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,489 A VERY, VERY BUSY PLACE. AND SO 3016 01:37:42,489 --> 01:37:43,090 OFTEN YOU'LL SEE AN OFFICER 3017 01:37:43,090 --> 01:37:44,725 SITTING BESIDE SOMEBODY WHO'S ON 3018 01:37:44,725 --> 01:37:47,595 A GURNEY WAITING FOR LITERALLY 3019 01:37:47,595 --> 01:37:48,229 HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS BEFORE 3020 01:37:48,229 --> 01:37:52,299 THEY'RE EVEN GETTING, YOU KNOW, 3021 01:37:52,299 --> 01:37:54,268 EXAMINED OTHER THAN PRECURSORY 3022 01:37:54,268 --> 01:37:56,637 INTERVIEW WITH WHAT THEIR ISSUES 3023 01:37:56,637 --> 01:38:01,108 ARE. OKAY. MOVING ON. I'M GOING 3024 01:38:01,108 --> 01:38:02,977 TO COVER THE CATEGORIES HERE 3025 01:38:02,977 --> 01:38:03,644 BRIEFLY AND THEN TURN IT BACK 3026 01:38:03,644 --> 01:38:06,380 OVER TO SARA. SO WE HAVE THESE 3027 01:38:06,380 --> 01:38:07,915 CATEGORIES THAT HAVE BEEN 3028 01:38:07,915 --> 01:38:10,951 TRACKED FOR REASONS FOR MEDICAL 3029 01:38:10,951 --> 01:38:11,552 DEFERRALS AT THE KING COUNTY 3030 01:38:11,552 --> 01:38:13,654 JAIL, ALTERED MENTAL STATE. I'LL 3031 01:38:13,654 --> 01:38:15,556 COMMENT BRIEFLY ON THIS. NOT 3032 01:38:15,556 --> 01:38:16,790 EVERYBODY THAT WE BRING TO THE 3033 01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:18,659 KING COUNTY JAIL GETS ALONG WELL 3034 01:38:18,659 --> 01:38:19,860 WITH OTHERS. AND SOMETIMES 3035 01:38:19,860 --> 01:38:21,662 THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT AMPED UP 3036 01:38:21,662 --> 01:38:23,998 OR AGITATED. THAT CAN BE 3037 01:38:23,998 --> 01:38:25,566 PERCEIVED BY JAIL NURSE AS AN 3038 01:38:25,566 --> 01:38:27,101 ALTERED MENTAL STATE. I 3039 01:38:27,101 --> 01:38:27,801 COULDN'T GIVE YOU A COUNT ON HOW 3040 01:38:27,801 --> 01:38:29,136 MANY TIMES IT HAPPENS, BUT I 3041 01:38:29,136 --> 01:38:32,673 KNOW OF A NUMBER. A NUMBER OF 3042 01:38:32,673 --> 01:38:34,174 EXAMPLES. SEXUAL ASSAULT. I'VE 3043 01:38:34,174 --> 01:38:36,176 ALREADY MENTIONED THIS. IT'S 3044 01:38:36,176 --> 01:38:38,078 WITH IF AND IT'S A QUESTION THAT 3045 01:38:38,078 --> 01:38:39,613 IS ASKED. AND IF THEY ANSWER 3046 01:38:39,613 --> 01:38:41,348 THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY 3047 01:38:41,348 --> 01:38:42,016 ASSAULTED IN THE PAST FIVE DAYS, 3048 01:38:42,016 --> 01:38:44,251 THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPECIFY 3049 01:38:44,251 --> 01:38:46,287 ANYTHING FURTHER. THEN THAT'S 3050 01:38:46,287 --> 01:38:47,855 MEDICAL DEFERRAL. NARCOTICS. 3051 01:38:47,855 --> 01:38:49,290 THEY ARE ASKED IF THEY'VE 3052 01:38:49,290 --> 01:38:50,457 CONSUMED IT, IF THEY'VE 3053 01:38:50,457 --> 01:38:51,492 CONSUMED IT WITHIN THE PAST SIX 3054 01:38:51,492 --> 01:38:53,093 HOURS. THAT'S A MEDICAL 3055 01:38:53,093 --> 01:38:54,695 DEFERRAL. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS 3056 01:38:54,695 --> 01:38:55,729 ASKED. ALL OTHER MEDICAL IS A 3057 01:38:55,729 --> 01:38:57,865 CATEGORY. AND WITH THAT, I THINK 3058 01:38:57,865 --> 01:38:59,433 I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. 3059 01:38:59,433 --> 01:39:00,067 -- AND I WILL JUST NOTE THAT THE 3060 01:39:00,067 --> 01:39:01,235 ALL OTHER MEDICAL IS WHERE WE 3061 01:39:01,235 --> 01:39:03,537 ARE LUMPING REALLY ANYTHING 3062 01:39:03,537 --> 01:39:04,705 WHERE WE DON'T HAVE AN 3063 01:39:04,705 --> 01:39:06,507 EXPLANATION FOR IT IN THE 3064 01:39:06,507 --> 01:39:08,976 NARRATIVE. AND SO THIS DATA 3065 01:39:08,976 --> 01:39:09,843 COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, WE FINALLY 3066 01:39:09,843 --> 01:39:11,312 HAVE. AND SO I REMEMBER LAST 3067 01:39:11,312 --> 01:39:13,881 YEAR YOU ASKING FOR US TO DO 3068 01:39:13,881 --> 01:39:14,615 THIS. AND SO WE HAVE BUILT A 3069 01:39:14,615 --> 01:39:16,150 SYSTEM. OUR DATA TEAM IS 3070 01:39:16,150 --> 01:39:18,118 ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH ALL OF 3071 01:39:18,118 --> 01:39:19,820 OUR BOOKING REPORTS TO PULL THIS 3072 01:39:19,820 --> 01:39:20,587 INFORMATION. SO THERE ARE GOING 3073 01:39:20,587 --> 01:39:22,389 TO BE TIMES WHERE THINGS ARE NOT 3074 01:39:22,389 --> 01:39:26,293 REPORTED OR THEY DID NOT GIVE US 3075 01:39:26,293 --> 01:39:27,695 ENOUGH INFO. SO I ACTUALLY FEEL 3076 01:39:27,695 --> 01:39:28,929 AFTER TALKING TO OFFICERS THIS 3077 01:39:28,929 --> 01:39:30,097 IS PROBABLY UNDERREPORTING, BUT 3078 01:39:30,097 --> 01:39:31,598 THIS IS WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO 3079 01:39:31,598 --> 01:39:33,100 FIND REPORTS WHERE CLEARLY 3080 01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:34,501 STATED THAT THERE WAS A DECLINE 3081 01:39:34,501 --> 01:39:36,403 OR DEFERRAL FOR A REASON, AND SO 3082 01:39:36,403 --> 01:39:38,872 FAR, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY AS 3083 01:39:38,872 --> 01:39:42,042 OF JULY 27th, WE'VE HAD 862 3084 01:39:42,042 --> 01:39:43,677 DEFERRALS THIS YEAR. AND WHEN 3085 01:39:43,677 --> 01:39:46,013 YOU TALK ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 6 3086 01:39:46,013 --> 01:39:47,114 TO 10 HOURS, THAT WE HAVE TO 3087 01:39:47,114 --> 01:39:49,016 STAY WITH AN INDIVIDUAL, THAT IS 3088 01:39:49,016 --> 01:39:51,652 A HUGE CAPACITY PROBLEM FOR US. 3089 01:39:51,652 --> 01:39:52,920 ON TOP OF THAT, I WILL TAKE 3090 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:54,221 THIS. THIS IS NOT JUST 3091 01:39:54,221 --> 01:39:56,056 MISDEMEANORS. THIS IS ALSO 3092 01:39:56,056 --> 01:39:56,824 FELONY LEVEL CRIME. IT CAN BE 3093 01:39:56,824 --> 01:39:57,958 BOTH. AND WE'RE GOING TO 3094 01:39:57,958 --> 01:39:59,560 ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT HOW WE'VE 3095 01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:01,161 SEEN BOTH OF THAT WITHIN REALLY 3096 01:40:01,161 --> 01:40:03,063 A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. NOW 3097 01:40:03,063 --> 01:40:04,965 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF THE 3098 01:40:04,965 --> 01:40:08,135 ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. THE 3099 01:40:08,135 --> 01:40:10,337 ELEPHANT IS IT'S NOT THAT THESE 3100 01:40:10,337 --> 01:40:11,739 PEOPLE DON'T NEED EMERGENT 3101 01:40:11,739 --> 01:40:13,974 MEDICAL CARE. WE ACTUALLY WANT 3102 01:40:13,974 --> 01:40:15,142 TO MAKE SURE AS A JOINT SYSTEM 3103 01:40:15,142 --> 01:40:17,277 THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO 3104 01:40:17,277 --> 01:40:19,646 KEEP OUR PEOPLE SAFE, PERIOD. NO 3105 01:40:19,646 --> 01:40:21,648 MATTER WHAT. WE HAVE TO KEEP 3106 01:40:21,648 --> 01:40:22,349 PEOPLE SAFE. THAT'S TRUE BOTH IN 3107 01:40:22,349 --> 01:40:25,386 OUR JAIL AND CUSTODY, ON OUR 3108 01:40:25,386 --> 01:40:25,986 STREETS AND IN OUR HOSPITALS. 3109 01:40:25,986 --> 01:40:28,021 AND SO WE AS A SYSTEM, HAVE TO 3110 01:40:28,021 --> 01:40:28,722 DO MORE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS 3111 01:40:28,722 --> 01:40:32,726 WHAT WE ARE DOING. NEXT SLIDE. 3112 01:40:32,726 --> 01:40:34,495 PLEASE. SO NOW TO GO INTO THOSE 3113 01:40:34,495 --> 01:40:35,729 TWO DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT WE 3114 01:40:35,729 --> 01:40:36,864 JUST LOOKED AT, WHICH MAKE UP 3115 01:40:36,864 --> 01:40:39,166 FOR MORE THAN A QUARTER OF OUR 3116 01:40:39,166 --> 01:40:40,234 REFERRALS SO FAR THIS YEAR, I'M 3117 01:40:40,234 --> 01:40:41,702 GOING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE 3118 01:40:41,702 --> 01:40:42,703 DETAILS ON WHY THERE ARE 3119 01:40:42,703 --> 01:40:45,038 AUTOMATIC DEFERRALS. THE FIRST 3120 01:40:45,038 --> 01:40:46,573 ONE. SO FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO 3121 01:40:46,573 --> 01:40:47,808 ALLEGE THAT THEY'VE INGESTED 3122 01:40:47,808 --> 01:40:49,443 NARCOTICS, THEY MUST BE OBSERVED 3123 01:40:49,443 --> 01:40:51,211 BY MEDICAL STAFF FOR SIX HOURS. 3124 01:40:51,211 --> 01:40:52,379 THAT'S A MEDICAL STANDARD THAT 3125 01:40:52,379 --> 01:40:54,815 IS KIND OF SET FORWARD BY THE 3126 01:40:54,815 --> 01:40:56,150 MEDICAL STAFF. IT IS NOT 3127 01:40:56,150 --> 01:40:57,317 SOMETHING THAT THE POLICE 3128 01:40:57,317 --> 01:40:58,018 DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE WEIGHING IN 3129 01:40:58,018 --> 01:40:59,987 ON, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT MEDICAL 3130 01:40:59,987 --> 01:41:01,789 PROFESSIONALS. HOWEVER, I WILL 3131 01:41:01,789 --> 01:41:03,424 SAY THAT AS FENTANYL HAS 3132 01:41:03,424 --> 01:41:05,159 CHANGED, THINGS ARE CHANGING 3133 01:41:05,159 --> 01:41:07,094 WITH IT AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE 3134 01:41:07,094 --> 01:41:09,763 TO CHANGE OUR SYSTEMS TO ADDRESS 3135 01:41:09,763 --> 01:41:11,398 THIS NEED FOR RECENT SEXUAL 3136 01:41:11,398 --> 01:41:12,132 ASSAULT. THAT IS ACTUALLY 3137 01:41:12,132 --> 01:41:13,967 SOMETHING THAT STIPULATED IN OUR 3138 01:41:13,967 --> 01:41:15,335 STATE LAW. IT IS STATE LAW THAT 3139 01:41:15,335 --> 01:41:17,738 EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS 3140 01:41:17,738 --> 01:41:19,673 WHO ALLEGES SEXUAL ASSAULT IS 3141 01:41:19,673 --> 01:41:21,875 OFFERED A SANE EVALUATION. THIS 3142 01:41:21,875 --> 01:41:22,943 IS A FORENSIC EVALUATION WHERE 3143 01:41:22,943 --> 01:41:24,478 WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT 3144 01:41:24,478 --> 01:41:27,448 FOLKS WHO ARE HURTING OTHERS ARE 3145 01:41:27,448 --> 01:41:28,882 HELD ACCOUNTABLE, AND THEY HAVE 3146 01:41:28,882 --> 01:41:30,050 TO BE OFFERED THAT THE 3147 01:41:30,050 --> 01:41:31,351 CURRENTLY, THE KING COUNTY JAIL 3148 01:41:31,351 --> 01:41:33,020 DOES NOT HAVE MEDICAL STAFF THAT 3149 01:41:33,020 --> 01:41:34,822 CAN DO EVALUATIONS, WHICH IS WHY 3150 01:41:34,822 --> 01:41:37,991 THEY ARE SENT TO HARBORVIEW OR 3151 01:41:37,991 --> 01:41:39,860 OTHER EDS. I WILL SAY THAT IT IS 3152 01:41:39,860 --> 01:41:40,861 A CERTIFICATION PROCESS. IT 3153 01:41:40,861 --> 01:41:42,629 COULD BE A NURSE THAT HAS THAT 3154 01:41:42,629 --> 01:41:43,964 CERTIFICATION, AND WE CAN ASK 3155 01:41:43,964 --> 01:41:45,232 MORE OF OUR MEDICAL 3156 01:41:45,232 --> 01:41:46,266 PROFESSIONALS. BUT THOSE ARE THE 3157 01:41:46,266 --> 01:41:48,101 TWO BIGGEST CATEGORIES THAT WE 3158 01:41:48,101 --> 01:41:49,770 HEAR ABOUT, BOTH FROM OUR PATROL 3159 01:41:49,770 --> 01:41:50,704 OFFICERS AND CAN SEE IN THE DATA 3160 01:41:50,704 --> 01:41:53,073 IT MAKES UP OVER A QUARTER. IF 3161 01:41:53,073 --> 01:41:54,608 WE COULD ADDRESS EVEN JUST ONE 3162 01:41:54,608 --> 01:41:55,976 OF THESE ISSUES FOR THE CITY OF 3163 01:41:55,976 --> 01:41:58,312 SEATTLE, WE'RE TALKING OVER 100 3164 01:41:58,312 --> 01:42:00,180 DIFFERENT TIMES OF DEFERRAL THAT 3165 01:42:00,180 --> 01:42:01,582 WE COULD SAVE THAT MANY HOURS 3166 01:42:01,582 --> 01:42:06,687 FROM OUR OFFICERS. 3167 01:42:06,687 --> 01:42:07,421 -- ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO 3168 01:42:07,421 --> 01:42:08,422 TAKE THIS PART OF THE 3169 01:42:08,422 --> 01:42:09,089 PRESENTATION AND FORGIVE ME. 3170 01:42:09,089 --> 01:42:10,357 I'M GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT 3171 01:42:10,357 --> 01:42:11,658 OF TIME WITH THIS BECAUSE WE 3172 01:42:11,658 --> 01:42:13,427 HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES 3173 01:42:13,427 --> 01:42:15,195 THAT ALL OCCURRED IN ONE WEEKEND 3174 01:42:15,195 --> 01:42:16,163 AND ONE PRECINCT. AND I THINK 3175 01:42:16,163 --> 01:42:17,064 THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF POINTS 3176 01:42:17,064 --> 01:42:19,199 THAT CAN BE ILLUSTRATED FROM 3177 01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:21,001 THESE EXAMPLES. SO THIS IS IN 3178 01:42:21,001 --> 01:42:22,736 THE EAST PRECINCT. IT IS A 3179 01:42:22,736 --> 01:42:24,671 WEEKEND OF FRIDAY, APRIL 3rd 3180 01:42:24,671 --> 01:42:27,975 THROUGH BASICALLY MONDAY 3181 01:42:27,975 --> 01:42:28,775 MORNING, APRIL 6th. I SAY THE 3182 01:42:28,775 --> 01:42:29,676 MORNING BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE 3183 01:42:29,676 --> 01:42:31,478 WEE HOURS OF, OF NIGHT. SO 3184 01:42:31,478 --> 01:42:33,614 ESSENTIALLY A WEEKEND. THIS WAS 3185 01:42:33,614 --> 01:42:35,983 BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY THIS 3186 01:42:35,983 --> 01:42:36,517 PRECINCT BECAUSE OF THEIR 3187 01:42:36,517 --> 01:42:38,418 FRUSTRATION WITH THESE DECLINES. 3188 01:42:38,418 --> 01:42:40,921 SO THE STAFFING I WANT TO 3189 01:42:40,921 --> 01:42:41,555 EMPHASIZE FOR THIS EAST PRECINCT 3190 01:42:41,555 --> 01:42:43,357 ON THIS WEEKEND, I LOOKED AT IT 3191 01:42:43,357 --> 01:42:45,125 AND ONLY ON TWO SHIFTS WERE THEY 3192 01:42:45,125 --> 01:42:47,895 EVEN ABLE TO GET UP TO SAFE 3193 01:42:47,895 --> 01:42:48,495 MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS. A 3194 01:42:48,495 --> 01:42:49,630 NUMBER OF TIMES THERE WERE ONE, 3195 01:42:49,630 --> 01:42:52,299 TWO, THREE, AND EVEN IN ONE 3196 01:42:52,299 --> 01:42:52,900 EXAMPLE, FOUR OFFICERS BELOW 3197 01:42:52,900 --> 01:42:55,135 THEIR SAFE MINIMUM STAFFING. SO 3198 01:42:55,135 --> 01:42:58,171 HAVING TO DEDICATE OFFICERS TO 3199 01:42:58,171 --> 01:43:00,507 HOSPITAL GUARDS IS A STRAIN SO 3200 01:43:00,507 --> 01:43:02,075 I'M GOING TO START WITH THE 3201 01:43:02,075 --> 01:43:03,677 FIRST ARREST. THE FIRST ITEM ON 3202 01:43:03,677 --> 01:43:05,612 HERE, FOUR THREE. THIS IS ABOUT 3203 01:43:05,612 --> 01:43:07,814 6 P.M. ON FRIDAY. THERE WAS A 3204 01:43:07,814 --> 01:43:09,683 CALL IN THE EAST PRECINCT OF A 3205 01:43:09,683 --> 01:43:10,984 MAN THAT IS SCREAMING AND 3206 01:43:10,984 --> 01:43:12,352 KICKING AND BREAKING DOWN A 3207 01:43:12,352 --> 01:43:13,954 BASEMENT DOOR TO AN OCCUPIED 3208 01:43:13,954 --> 01:43:17,057 RESIDENCE. THE RESIDENT INSIDE 3209 01:43:17,057 --> 01:43:19,726 IS A 7079 YEAR OLD MAN WHO IS 3210 01:43:19,726 --> 01:43:21,295 ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED. HE WAS 3211 01:43:21,295 --> 01:43:21,862 EXTREMELY THANKFUL WHEN THE 3212 01:43:21,862 --> 01:43:23,063 POLICE ARRIVED AND TOOK THE 3213 01:43:23,063 --> 01:43:24,264 PERSON WHO WAS ATTEMPTING TO 3214 01:43:24,264 --> 01:43:25,799 BREAK IN INTO CUSTODY. BY THE 3215 01:43:25,799 --> 01:43:28,168 WAY, THAT PERSON THAT WAS TAKEN 3216 01:43:28,168 --> 01:43:29,603 INTO CUSTODY, THAT WAS OUR 3217 01:43:29,603 --> 01:43:31,838 SEVENTH ARREST OF THAT 3218 01:43:31,838 --> 01:43:33,340 INDIVIDUAL THIS YEAR ALONE. HE 3219 01:43:33,340 --> 01:43:34,374 WAS TAKEN DOWN TO THE KING 3220 01:43:34,374 --> 01:43:36,076 COUNTY JAIL FOR BOOKING. HE 3221 01:43:36,076 --> 01:43:41,315 ALLEGED A SEXUAL ASSAULT. HE WAS 3222 01:43:41,315 --> 01:43:42,416 THEN DEFERRED TO HMC, AS IS THE 3223 01:43:42,416 --> 01:43:44,384 PROTOCOL. HE WOULD NOT PROVIDE 3224 01:43:44,384 --> 01:43:46,286 ANY FURTHER DETAILS OF THE 3225 01:43:46,286 --> 01:43:47,654 ALLEGED SEXUAL ASSAULT TO THE 3226 01:43:47,654 --> 01:43:48,388 OFFICERS THAT ARE ATTEMPTING. 3227 01:43:48,388 --> 01:43:50,757 BECAUSE WE ALWAYS TAKE THESE 3228 01:43:50,757 --> 01:43:51,358 ALLEGATIONS SERIOUSLY AND WE 3229 01:43:51,358 --> 01:43:53,226 ALWAYS DOCUMENT WHATEVER IS 3230 01:43:53,226 --> 01:43:54,695 REPORTED TO US. HE REFUSED TO 3231 01:43:54,695 --> 01:43:56,296 PARTICIPATE IN GIVING ANY 3232 01:43:56,296 --> 01:43:56,897 DETAILS TO THE OFFICERS AND 3233 01:43:56,897 --> 01:43:59,066 WOULD NOT SPEAK TO THE HOSPITAL 3234 01:43:59,066 --> 01:44:02,135 STAFF, AND ULTIMATELY, WE SPENT 3235 01:44:02,135 --> 01:44:04,471 8.5 HOURS UNTIL HE WAS FINALLY 3236 01:44:04,471 --> 01:44:05,672 RELEASED TO BE BOOKED INTO KING 3237 01:44:05,672 --> 01:44:07,774 COUNTY JAIL, WHICH HE WAS. LET 3238 01:44:07,774 --> 01:44:10,010 ME TURN TO THE NEXT EXAMPLE THAT 3239 01:44:10,010 --> 01:44:11,178 OCCURRED ON SATURDAY, THE 3240 01:44:11,178 --> 01:44:13,981 FOURTH, AT ABOUT 5:30 P.M., A 3241 01:44:13,981 --> 01:44:16,617 PERSON WAS PASSED OUT ON THE 3242 01:44:16,617 --> 01:44:17,918 GROUND AT A LOCAL COLLEGE IN THE 3243 01:44:17,918 --> 01:44:20,821 EAST PRECINCT. HE HAPPENED TO BE 3244 01:44:20,821 --> 01:44:21,555 HOLDING A GUN IN HIS HAND, WHICH 3245 01:44:21,555 --> 01:44:23,757 WAS VISIBLE. OFFICERS RESPONDED 3246 01:44:23,757 --> 01:44:26,994 AS WELL AS FIRE PERSONNEL. 3247 01:44:26,994 --> 01:44:27,527 ULTIMATELY, THE OFFICERS 3248 01:44:27,527 --> 01:44:29,062 DETERMINED THAT THE GUN WAS 3249 01:44:29,062 --> 01:44:30,597 STOLEN AND TOOK. THIS PERSON 3250 01:44:30,597 --> 01:44:32,099 TOOK THE SUSPECT INTO CUSTODY 3251 01:44:32,099 --> 01:44:38,238 FOR THE FIREARMS VIOLATION. THE. 3252 01:44:38,238 --> 01:44:38,872 HE WAS TRANSPORTED DOWN TO THE 3253 01:44:38,872 --> 01:44:42,209 KING COUNTY JAIL. HE ALLEGED 3254 01:44:42,209 --> 01:44:44,278 SEXUAL ASSAULT. HE WAS REFUSED. 3255 01:44:44,278 --> 01:44:47,147 AT THE. AT THE JAIL, HE WAS 3256 01:44:47,147 --> 01:44:47,681 TRANSPORTED TO HARBORVIEW 3257 01:44:47,681 --> 01:44:49,116 MEDICAL CENTER. HE REFUSED TO 3258 01:44:49,116 --> 01:44:51,652 PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION TO THE 3259 01:44:51,652 --> 01:44:52,352 OFFICERS ABOUT THE ALLEGED 3260 01:44:52,352 --> 01:44:56,590 ASSAULT AND HE ULTIMATELY TOOK 3261 01:44:56,590 --> 01:44:58,959 14.5 HOURS. YOU PROBABLY 3262 01:44:58,959 --> 01:45:01,361 WONDERING WHY 14.5 HOURS, 3263 01:45:01,361 --> 01:45:02,829 ALTHOUGH IT REQUIRES A SANE 3264 01:45:02,829 --> 01:45:04,865 NURSE, A SANE NURSE IS NOT 3265 01:45:04,865 --> 01:45:06,199 ALWAYS ON DUTY. SO IT'S WHEN ONE 3266 01:45:06,199 --> 01:45:07,367 IS AVAILABLE. AND AGAIN, THEY'RE 3267 01:45:07,367 --> 01:45:09,469 CONSTANTLY TRIAGING, BUT THAT'LL 3268 01:45:09,469 --> 01:45:10,771 BE MORE KIND OF FOR YOU TO 3269 01:45:10,771 --> 01:45:14,441 COVER. LET ME GO TO EXAMPLE 3270 01:45:14,441 --> 01:45:16,677 NUMBER THREE. SO THIS IS ON 3271 01:45:16,677 --> 01:45:20,614 SUNDAY AT ABOUT 11 P.M. THIS WAS 3272 01:45:20,614 --> 01:45:21,148 WHERE OFFICERS RECOGNIZED 3273 01:45:21,148 --> 01:45:22,382 SOMEBODY THAT THEY KNEW WAS 3274 01:45:22,382 --> 01:45:25,218 WANTED ON A SIZABLE WARRANT, 3275 01:45:25,218 --> 01:45:27,287 $50,000. THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS 3276 01:45:27,287 --> 01:45:28,622 ARREST WHERE THEY WERE FAMILIAR 3277 01:45:28,622 --> 01:45:30,490 WITH HIM FROM. HE HAD A 3278 01:45:30,490 --> 01:45:31,825 SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF FENTANYL 3279 01:45:31,825 --> 01:45:34,261 AND WAS BELIEVED TO BE DEALING. 3280 01:45:34,261 --> 01:45:36,229 AND SO THAT'S WHY THE THE FELONY 3281 01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:39,733 WARRANT FOR THE DRUGS DEALING. 3282 01:45:39,733 --> 01:45:40,867 HE HAD A FIXED BLADE KNIFE ON 3283 01:45:40,867 --> 01:45:42,869 HIM AT THIS NEW ARREST THAT 3284 01:45:42,869 --> 01:45:44,404 OCCURRED ON THAT SUNDAY EVENING, 3285 01:45:44,404 --> 01:45:48,442 AS WELL AS FENTANYL, MORE 3286 01:45:48,442 --> 01:45:49,509 FENTANYL ON HIS PERSON. HE WAS 3287 01:45:49,509 --> 01:45:50,644 TAKEN DOWN TO THE KING COUNTY 3288 01:45:50,644 --> 01:45:53,346 JAIL. HE CLAIMED THAT HE HAD 3289 01:45:53,346 --> 01:45:54,381 SWALLOWED DRUGS. SO THIS WAS AN 3290 01:45:54,381 --> 01:45:55,115 INTERESTING I'M GOING TO GO 3291 01:45:55,115 --> 01:45:56,316 INTERESTING ONE. I'M GOING TO 3292 01:45:56,316 --> 01:45:59,086 GO THROUGH THIS. HE WAS TAKEN UP 3293 01:45:59,086 --> 01:46:01,321 TO VIRGINIA MASON AND GUARDED 3294 01:46:01,321 --> 01:46:03,457 THERE. LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT 3295 01:46:03,457 --> 01:46:03,990 ALWAYS HARBORVIEW MEDICAL 3296 01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:05,792 CENTER. AND THEN ONCE HE WAS 3297 01:46:05,792 --> 01:46:08,195 CLEARED, HE WAS TAKEN BACK TO 3298 01:46:08,195 --> 01:46:10,797 KING COUNTY JAIL. THIS TIME ON 3299 01:46:10,797 --> 01:46:12,065 THE SCREENING, HE CLAIMED THAT 3300 01:46:12,065 --> 01:46:14,534 HE WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED. HE 3301 01:46:14,534 --> 01:46:16,002 DID NOT PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION 3302 01:46:16,002 --> 01:46:18,338 ABOUT THE ALLEGED ASSAULT TO THE 3303 01:46:18,338 --> 01:46:19,573 OFFICERS. AND I WANT YOU TO HEAR 3304 01:46:19,573 --> 01:46:21,408 I'M GOING TO READ THIS 3305 01:46:21,408 --> 01:46:23,210 VERBATIM. THIS IS WHAT THE 3306 01:46:23,210 --> 01:46:23,844 ARRESTING OFFICER WROTE IN THE 3307 01:46:23,844 --> 01:46:26,847 REPORT. IT GIVES THE NAME OF 3308 01:46:26,847 --> 01:46:27,481 THIS ARRESTEE THEN STATED THAT 3309 01:46:27,481 --> 01:46:32,085 HE HAS BEEN ARRESTED ON THE SAME 3310 01:46:32,085 --> 01:46:34,087 EXACT WARRANT FIVE SEPARATE 3311 01:46:34,087 --> 01:46:35,555 TIMES AND HAS BEEN RELEASED 3312 01:46:35,555 --> 01:46:39,292 THREE OF THE TIMES BY OFFICERS 3313 01:46:39,292 --> 01:46:42,462 FOR DOING THINGS LIKE THIS 3314 01:46:42,462 --> 01:46:44,331 MEANING WHAT HE CLAIMS OCCURRED, 3315 01:46:44,331 --> 01:46:46,566 RIGHT? THAT WAS A 9.5 HOUR 3316 01:46:46,566 --> 01:46:48,101 HOSPITAL GUARD TO FINALLY GET 3317 01:46:48,101 --> 01:46:52,506 HIM BOOKED. OKAY. EXAMPLE NUMBER 3318 01:46:52,506 --> 01:46:55,342 FOUR. SO THIS IS ONE WHERE THE 3319 01:46:55,342 --> 01:46:58,145 OFFICERS ARRESTED SOMEBODY THAT 3320 01:46:58,145 --> 01:47:00,380 THEY KNEW HAD AN ORGANIZED 3321 01:47:00,380 --> 01:47:02,182 RETAIL THEFT, FELONY LEVEL 3322 01:47:02,182 --> 01:47:03,450 WARRANT. HE HAD. ADDITIONALLY 3323 01:47:03,450 --> 01:47:04,584 FENTANYL AND METH ON HIS PERSON 3324 01:47:04,584 --> 01:47:08,822 WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED. AND HE WAS 3325 01:47:08,822 --> 01:47:11,224 BROUGHT DOWN TO THE JAIL, 3326 01:47:11,224 --> 01:47:13,260 CLAIMED THAT HE HAD BEEN 3327 01:47:13,260 --> 01:47:15,195 SEXUALLY ASSAULTED. HE REFUSED 3328 01:47:15,195 --> 01:47:16,730 TO PARTICIPATE, REFUSED TO 3329 01:47:16,730 --> 01:47:17,230 PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL 3330 01:47:17,230 --> 01:47:18,565 INFORMATION, REFUSED TO 3331 01:47:18,565 --> 01:47:20,033 PARTICIPATE WITH THE SAME NURSE. 3332 01:47:20,033 --> 01:47:21,568 FOR THOSE OF YOU YOU PROBABLY 3333 01:47:21,568 --> 01:47:25,739 KNOW, BUT SANE NURSE IS A SEXUAL 3334 01:47:25,739 --> 01:47:26,406 ASSAULT NURSE EXAMINER. THERE'S 3335 01:47:26,406 --> 01:47:27,140 ONLY SOME NURSES THAT ARE 3336 01:47:27,140 --> 01:47:32,012 TRAINED TO THAT LEVEL. SO THAT 3337 01:47:32,012 --> 01:47:33,713 ONE TOOK 16 HOURS TO GET HIM 3338 01:47:33,713 --> 01:47:35,615 BOOKED. 16 HOURS OF OFFICERS 3339 01:47:35,615 --> 01:47:37,784 GUARDING HIM. LAST ONE. BUT I 3340 01:47:37,784 --> 01:47:38,852 THINK THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT TOO. 3341 01:47:38,852 --> 01:47:41,354 IT'S THE SHORTEST ONE. ONLY 2.5 3342 01:47:41,354 --> 01:47:42,956 HOURS. BUT THIS IS INTERESTING. 3343 01:47:42,956 --> 01:47:46,493 LISTEN TO THESE DETAILS. SO 3344 01:47:46,493 --> 01:47:48,261 OFFICERS RECOGNIZE THIS PERSON 3345 01:47:48,261 --> 01:47:49,362 AS HAVING A WARRANT FOR HIS 3346 01:47:49,362 --> 01:47:50,463 ARREST. VUCSA BY THE WAY, 3347 01:47:50,463 --> 01:47:52,232 THAT'S VIOLATION UNIFORM 3348 01:47:52,232 --> 01:47:53,600 FIREARMS ACT, A GUN CRIME. HE 3349 01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:55,268 ALSO WAS FOR TAKING MOTOR 3350 01:47:55,268 --> 01:47:56,636 VEHICLE AND AUTO THEFT. OKAY. 3351 01:47:56,636 --> 01:47:59,773 THAT WARRANT WAS $100,000 BAIL. 3352 01:47:59,773 --> 01:48:00,841 HE WAS TRANSPORTED DOWN TO THE 3353 01:48:00,841 --> 01:48:02,209 KING COUNTY JAIL. AND I'M GOING 3354 01:48:02,209 --> 01:48:04,811 TO BE A LITTLE SPECIFIC HERE. HE 3355 01:48:04,811 --> 01:48:06,446 WAS ASKED BY THE JAIL NURSE 3356 01:48:06,446 --> 01:48:07,747 SEVERAL TIMES IF HE HAD 3357 01:48:07,747 --> 01:48:10,417 SWALLOWED DRUGS. HE ADMITTED TO 3358 01:48:10,417 --> 01:48:12,953 SMOKING FENTANYL BUT SPECIFIED 3359 01:48:12,953 --> 01:48:14,955 NOT SWALLOWING IT. FINALLY, 3360 01:48:14,955 --> 01:48:16,890 AFTER BEING ASKED MULTIPLE 3361 01:48:16,890 --> 01:48:18,291 REPEATED TIMES, HE SAID IN A. 3362 01:48:18,291 --> 01:48:20,560 AND IT WAS CHARACTERIZED AS IN A 3363 01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,864 CONFUSED MANNER. HE SAID, I 3364 01:48:23,864 --> 01:48:25,799 GUESS I SWALLOWED DRUGS, HE WAS 3365 01:48:25,799 --> 01:48:27,334 THEN TRANSPORTED TO HARBORVIEW 3366 01:48:27,334 --> 01:48:29,536 MEDICAL CENTER. ONCE CLEARED, 3367 01:48:29,536 --> 01:48:31,438 OFFICERS ATTEMPTED TO BOOK HIM. 3368 01:48:31,438 --> 01:48:32,472 KING COUNTY JAIL SAID THAT, 3369 01:48:32,472 --> 01:48:36,176 WELL, THIS 2.5 HOURS WASN'T LONG 3370 01:48:36,176 --> 01:48:36,877 ENOUGH THAT YOU DIDN'T PROPERLY. 3371 01:48:36,877 --> 01:48:37,711 YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW 3372 01:48:37,711 --> 01:48:38,411 THE PROCESS, I'M GUESSING. AND 3373 01:48:38,411 --> 01:48:40,547 AGAIN, I MAY BE SPECULATING 3374 01:48:40,547 --> 01:48:41,448 HERE, I'M GUESSING THAT HE 3375 01:48:41,448 --> 01:48:43,516 PROBABLY TOLD THE HOSPITAL STAFF 3376 01:48:43,516 --> 01:48:44,518 THE SAME THING, THAT I DIDN'T 3377 01:48:44,518 --> 01:48:45,852 SWALLOW DRUGS, AND THEY MAY HAVE 3378 01:48:45,852 --> 01:48:47,988 BELIEVED HIM, GIVEN HIS VITALS 3379 01:48:47,988 --> 01:48:50,824 DIDN'T INDICATE THAT HE DID. 3380 01:48:50,824 --> 01:48:53,593 BUT I'M SPECULATING. SO A 3381 01:48:53,593 --> 01:48:57,163 SERGEANT RESPONDED. THERE AND 3382 01:48:57,163 --> 01:48:57,797 ULTIMATELY TALKING TO THE JAIL 3383 01:48:57,797 --> 01:49:00,834 STAFF, THEY HAD A DIFFERENT 3384 01:49:00,834 --> 01:49:02,536 NURSE AVAILABLE TO PERFORM THE 3385 01:49:02,536 --> 01:49:03,436 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY 3386 01:49:03,436 --> 01:49:04,838 THEY WERE REFUSING TO TAKE HIM 3387 01:49:04,838 --> 01:49:06,907 THAT A DIFFERENT NURSE PERFORMED 3388 01:49:06,907 --> 01:49:07,741 THE SCREENING AND THEY AGREED TO 3389 01:49:07,741 --> 01:49:11,111 TAKE HIM. SO IN TOTAL, ON THAT 3390 01:49:11,111 --> 01:49:13,813 PARTICULAR WEEKEND, EAST 3391 01:49:13,813 --> 01:49:15,548 PRECINCT OFFICERS ALONE SPENT 51 3392 01:49:15,548 --> 01:49:18,051 HOURS TOTAL ON HOSPITAL GUARD. 3393 01:49:18,051 --> 01:49:18,652 THAT'S IT. 3394 01:49:18,652 --> 01:49:21,621 -- YEAH. AND SO AGAIN, I WANT TO 3395 01:49:21,621 --> 01:49:23,456 REPEAT IT. IS THIS IS AN ISSUE 3396 01:49:23,456 --> 01:49:25,292 AROUND CAPACITY, AROUND 3397 01:49:25,292 --> 01:49:26,693 LIABILITY. WHEN YOU ARE TAKING 3398 01:49:26,693 --> 01:49:28,495 SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY SICK AND 3399 01:49:28,495 --> 01:49:29,763 HAVING THEM BE WITH OFFICERS, 3400 01:49:29,763 --> 01:49:31,898 THAT IS A CONCERN FOR US. AND SO 3401 01:49:31,898 --> 01:49:35,101 IT IS NOT TO SAY THAT IT IS NOT 3402 01:49:35,101 --> 01:49:37,370 RIGHT THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE 3403 01:49:37,370 --> 01:49:37,904 BEING GIVEN EXTRA MEDICAL 3404 01:49:37,904 --> 01:49:39,439 ATTENTION, BUT I DO THINK IT'S 3405 01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:41,074 IMPORTANT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT 3406 01:49:41,074 --> 01:49:42,776 HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS CAPACITY 3407 01:49:42,776 --> 01:49:44,678 AND THIS RESOURCE ISSUE. THIS IS 3408 01:49:44,678 --> 01:49:46,146 A SIGNIFICANT RESOURCE ISSUE. 3409 01:49:46,146 --> 01:49:48,782 WHEN WE HAVE A STAFFING PROBLEM, 3410 01:49:48,782 --> 01:49:51,985 51 HOURS AT THE HOSPITAL IS NOT 3411 01:49:51,985 --> 01:49:52,886 WHAT THE EAST PRECINCT NEEDS 3412 01:49:52,886 --> 01:49:54,587 WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY SHORT 3413 01:49:54,587 --> 01:49:55,989 STAFFED. AND WE ARE TRYING TO 3414 01:49:55,989 --> 01:50:00,026 RESPOND TO 911 CALLS, WE HAVE TO 3415 01:50:00,026 --> 01:50:01,328 FIGURE OUT THIS. AND IT'S NOT 3416 01:50:01,328 --> 01:50:03,363 JUST ONE PARTNER. I WANT TO SAY 3417 01:50:03,363 --> 01:50:05,432 THAT THIS IS A JOINT ISSUE THAT 3418 01:50:05,432 --> 01:50:08,001 WE ALL HAVE TO DO TOGETHER AND 3419 01:50:08,001 --> 01:50:09,336 FIX TOGETHER. IT'S NOT ONE 3420 01:50:09,336 --> 01:50:15,075 PERSON. IT'S ALL OF US. NEXT 3421 01:50:15,075 --> 01:50:16,076 SLIDE. SO GOING INTO NEXT STEPS, 3422 01:50:16,076 --> 01:50:17,477 I'VE ALREADY KIND OF HIT IT A 3423 01:50:17,477 --> 01:50:21,881 LITTLE BIT I WANT TO MENTION 3424 01:50:21,881 --> 01:50:23,216 THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE 3425 01:50:23,216 --> 01:50:24,584 THAT HAS BEEN GROWING AND 3426 01:50:24,584 --> 01:50:25,885 GROWING, AND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS 3427 01:50:25,885 --> 01:50:30,390 IT NOW. I KNEW ABOUT THIS ISSUE 3428 01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:31,024 LAST YEAR. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE 3429 01:50:31,024 --> 01:50:31,891 YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS ISSUE LAST 3430 01:50:31,891 --> 01:50:34,928 YEAR. WE FINALLY HAVE THE DATA. 3431 01:50:34,928 --> 01:50:36,162 I WANT TO MOVE US FORWARD. WE 3432 01:50:36,162 --> 01:50:38,098 HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. AS YOU 3433 01:50:38,098 --> 01:50:39,132 HEARD FROM CHIEF BROWN, THIS IS 3434 01:50:39,132 --> 01:50:41,501 ONE OF THE TOP ISSUES THAT OUR 3435 01:50:41,501 --> 01:50:43,203 PATROL OFFICERS ARE ADDRESSING, 3436 01:50:43,203 --> 01:50:44,637 AND IT LEADS TO A CULTURE 3437 01:50:44,637 --> 01:50:47,741 PROBLEM. IT LEADS TO IF I CANNOT 3438 01:50:47,741 --> 01:50:50,276 HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR 3439 01:50:50,276 --> 01:50:51,678 CRIME, THEN WHY KEEP TRYING? NOT 3440 01:50:51,678 --> 01:50:52,779 SAYING THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE 3441 01:50:52,779 --> 01:50:54,114 DOING, BUT IT'S HARD NOT TO 3442 01:50:54,114 --> 01:50:55,715 FEEL THAT WAY WHEN YOU JUST 3443 01:50:55,715 --> 01:50:58,652 WASTED 51 HOURS AT HARBORVIEW OR 3444 01:50:58,652 --> 01:50:59,919 AT ANOTHER HOSPITAL. SO WE HAVE 3445 01:50:59,919 --> 01:51:02,922 TO COME TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THIS 3446 01:51:02,922 --> 01:51:04,290 REAL MEDICAL NEED AND SEE WHAT 3447 01:51:04,290 --> 01:51:05,925 OUR SOLUTIONS ARE. SO WE HAVE TO 3448 01:51:05,925 --> 01:51:07,327 WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO 3449 01:51:07,327 --> 01:51:09,062 ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE MEDICAL 3450 01:51:09,062 --> 01:51:11,197 STAFFING. I'M SURE WE NEED MORE 3451 01:51:11,197 --> 01:51:13,199 MEDICAL STAFFING. WE NEED TO 3452 01:51:13,199 --> 01:51:15,068 HAVE A MEDICAL PLAN BETWEEN THE 3453 01:51:15,068 --> 01:51:15,735 PROFESSIONALS TO TALK ABOUT 3454 01:51:15,735 --> 01:51:17,270 COORDINATION, AND WE HAVE TO 3455 01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:18,238 CONTINUOUSLY LOOK AT THIS DATA 3456 01:51:18,238 --> 01:51:20,807 AND IMPROVE TOGETHER. GOING BACK 3457 01:51:20,807 --> 01:51:22,609 TO MY ORIGINAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT, 3458 01:51:22,609 --> 01:51:23,777 TIMES HAVE CHANGED. WE ARE A 3459 01:51:23,777 --> 01:51:25,812 DENSER CITY. WE ARE SHORT 3460 01:51:25,812 --> 01:51:27,881 STAFFED, OVER 400 OFFICERS 3461 01:51:27,881 --> 01:51:30,316 STILL, COMPARED TO WHEN 2019 WAS 3462 01:51:30,316 --> 01:51:32,385 AROUND. WE HAVE GOT TO CHANGE IN 3463 01:51:32,385 --> 01:51:33,486 ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF 3464 01:51:33,486 --> 01:51:36,756 SEATTLE, AND IT TAKES ALL OF US. 3465 01:51:36,756 --> 01:51:40,727 THANK YOU. 3466 01:51:40,727 --> 01:51:43,196 -- THANK YOU. TAKE A MOMENT. I 3467 01:51:43,196 --> 01:51:47,400 JUST NEED TO TAKE A MOMENT YOUR 3468 01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:49,135 BRIEFING IS THE REASON WHY WE 3469 01:51:49,135 --> 01:51:50,837 UPDATED THE PUBLIC DRUG USE AND 3470 01:51:50,837 --> 01:51:55,842 POSSESSION BILL TO GET EVEN MORE 3471 01:51:55,842 --> 01:51:57,177 DATA TO CHARACTERIZE THIS. AND 3472 01:51:57,177 --> 01:51:57,811 IN TERMS OF OUR STRATEGIC 3473 01:51:57,811 --> 01:51:59,479 FRAMEWORK PLAN, PILLAR TWO, 3474 01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:00,046 FUNCTIONAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE 3475 01:52:00,046 --> 01:52:02,382 SYSTEM, THIS TOPIC IS LIKE THE 3476 01:52:02,382 --> 01:52:05,452 POSTER CHILD OF A DYSFUNCTIONAL 3477 01:52:05,452 --> 01:52:08,988 CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. AND I 3478 01:52:08,988 --> 01:52:09,589 REALLY APPRECIATE HARBORVIEW 3479 01:52:09,589 --> 01:52:12,192 BEING HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S 3480 01:52:12,192 --> 01:52:12,725 REALLY IMPORTANT TO HEAR 3481 01:52:12,725 --> 01:52:14,694 DIRECTLY THE IMPACT ON OUR 3482 01:52:14,694 --> 01:52:16,396 PREMIER HOSPITAL SYSTEM, NOT 3483 01:52:16,396 --> 01:52:17,831 JUST IN THE CITY, BUT THE ENTIRE 3484 01:52:17,831 --> 01:52:19,966 PACIFIC NORTHWEST, BECAUSE THIS 3485 01:52:19,966 --> 01:52:21,768 CANNOT BE HELPFUL TO YOUR 3486 01:52:21,768 --> 01:52:23,803 CARRYING OUT OF YOUR OWN 3487 01:52:23,803 --> 01:52:26,206 MISSION. MR. GOODHUE, I REALLY 3488 01:52:26,206 --> 01:52:27,240 APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. OVER 3489 01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:28,575 TO YOU FOR ANY REMARKS THAT 3490 01:52:28,575 --> 01:52:29,576 YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE. 3491 01:52:29,576 --> 01:52:30,743 -- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS 3492 01:52:30,743 --> 01:52:32,679 OF THE COMMITTEE. SO AGAIN, MY 3493 01:52:32,679 --> 01:52:35,215 NAME IS IAN GOODHUE AND I 3494 01:52:35,215 --> 01:52:35,682 REPRESENT UW MEDICINE 3495 01:52:35,682 --> 01:52:38,518 HARBORVIEW, AND I'M HERE IN THAT 3496 01:52:38,518 --> 01:52:40,353 CAPACITY. OUR CEO, SUMMER 3497 01:52:40,353 --> 01:52:41,755 WALLEY, WHO APPEARED IN FRONT OF 3498 01:52:41,755 --> 01:52:42,589 YOU LAST MONTH ON A DIFFERENT 3499 01:52:42,589 --> 01:52:43,389 MATTER. SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN 3500 01:52:43,389 --> 01:52:45,091 HERE, BUT SHE HAD A CONFLICT. 3501 01:52:45,091 --> 01:52:47,594 SHE AND I ALSO TALKED ABOUT THIS 3502 01:52:47,594 --> 01:52:49,062 TOO. AND I DO HAVE I HAVE SOME 3503 01:52:49,062 --> 01:52:49,929 BACKGROUND THAT I THINK IS 3504 01:52:49,929 --> 01:52:51,498 HELPFUL ON THIS ISSUE. I WAS 3505 01:52:51,498 --> 01:52:52,465 ALSO AT THE KING COUNTY 3506 01:52:52,465 --> 01:52:54,601 PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE FOR 15 3507 01:52:54,601 --> 01:52:55,735 YEARS BEFORE GOING TO UW 3508 01:52:55,735 --> 01:52:56,870 MEDICINE, AND SIX OF WHICH I 3509 01:52:56,870 --> 01:53:00,039 SERVED AS DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF. 3510 01:53:00,039 --> 01:53:00,640 AND SO OVERSAW RELATIONS WITH 3511 01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,042 WITH THE JAIL, OUR OUR OFFICERS 3512 01:53:03,042 --> 01:53:04,043 AND THE FOLKS THAT WORK AT THE 3513 01:53:04,043 --> 01:53:05,678 JAIL WORK HARD EVERY DAY. AND I 3514 01:53:05,678 --> 01:53:06,880 KNOW THEY'RE WORKING HARD TO DO 3515 01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,449 THEIR JOB THE BEST THEY CAN. SO 3516 01:53:09,449 --> 01:53:10,450 I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE 3517 01:53:10,450 --> 01:53:12,752 BIT OF CONTEXT. SO HARBORVIEW 3518 01:53:12,752 --> 01:53:14,521 MEDICAL CENTER IS OWNED BY KING 3519 01:53:14,521 --> 01:53:16,222 COUNTY, BUT IT'S BEEN OPERATED 3520 01:53:16,222 --> 01:53:17,557 BY THE UNIVERSITY OF 3521 01:53:17,557 --> 01:53:19,626 WASHINGTON'S HEALTH SYSTEM, UW 3522 01:53:19,626 --> 01:53:22,295 MEDICINE, SINCE THE EARLY 1970s. 3523 01:53:22,295 --> 01:53:24,764 WE HAVE OVER 6000 STATE 3524 01:53:24,764 --> 01:53:27,066 EMPLOYEES. WE ADMIT OVER 17,000 3525 01:53:27,066 --> 01:53:28,668 PATIENTS A YEAR INTO 540 3526 01:53:28,668 --> 01:53:30,370 LICENSED BEDS. THAT MAKES US THE 3527 01:53:30,370 --> 01:53:31,204 SECOND LARGEST HOSPITAL IN THE 3528 01:53:31,204 --> 01:53:32,539 STATE, NEXT TO UW MEDICAL 3529 01:53:32,539 --> 01:53:34,641 CENTER. OUR OTHER HOSPITAL THAT 3530 01:53:34,641 --> 01:53:37,477 WE OPERATE, AND WE PROVIDE OVER 3531 01:53:37,477 --> 01:53:40,113 254,000 OUTPATIENT CLINIC VISITS 3532 01:53:40,113 --> 01:53:41,781 A YEAR, AS THE CHIEF SAID, 3533 01:53:41,781 --> 01:53:43,016 HARBORVIEW IS THE STATE'S LEVEL 3534 01:53:43,016 --> 01:53:46,386 ONE TRAUMA CENTER. WE'RE ALSO 3535 01:53:46,386 --> 01:53:46,986 THE LARGEST ACUTE PSYCHIATRY 3536 01:53:46,986 --> 01:53:48,621 CARE HOSPITAL IN THE STATE, AND 3537 01:53:48,621 --> 01:53:50,223 WE'RE ALSO THE LARGEST PUBLIC 3538 01:53:50,223 --> 01:53:51,157 SAFETY NET HOSPITAL IN THE 3539 01:53:51,157 --> 01:53:53,293 STATE, SERVING UNDER AND 3540 01:53:53,293 --> 01:53:54,360 UNINSURED PATIENTS. SO AS YOU 3541 01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,096 CAN IMAGINE, THE HARBORVIEW 3542 01:53:57,096 --> 01:53:58,431 EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT IS A VERY 3543 01:53:58,431 --> 01:54:01,367 BUSY PLACE. WE SEE OVER 63,000 3544 01:54:01,367 --> 01:54:03,002 PATIENT VISITS A YEAR IN THAT 3545 01:54:03,002 --> 01:54:05,939 HARBORVIEW, EDDIE. SO I WANT TO 3546 01:54:05,939 --> 01:54:07,907 TALK ABOUT WHAT THE ROLE OF 3547 01:54:07,907 --> 01:54:08,841 HARBORVIEW IS ON THIS PARTICULAR 3548 01:54:08,841 --> 01:54:09,409 ISSUE THAT WE'RE HERE TO 3549 01:54:09,409 --> 01:54:15,315 DISCUSS TODAY. SO WHEN A PERSON 3550 01:54:15,315 --> 01:54:17,584 IS BROUGHT TO THE KING COUNTY 3551 01:54:17,584 --> 01:54:18,284 ADULT DETENTION CENTER, OR KCJ, 3552 01:54:18,284 --> 01:54:21,120 AS WE SOMETIMES REFER TO IT FOR 3553 01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:22,822 BOOKING, WHO ARE THEN DECLINED 3554 01:54:22,822 --> 01:54:24,757 FOR BEING BOOKED DUE TO THEIR 3555 01:54:24,757 --> 01:54:26,059 MEDICAL CONDITION, THEY ARE 3556 01:54:26,059 --> 01:54:27,193 USUALLY NOT ALWAYS, AS WAS 3557 01:54:27,193 --> 01:54:29,329 NOTED, BROUGHT TO HARBORVIEW. I 3558 01:54:29,329 --> 01:54:29,963 THINK THERE ARE SOME REASONS FOR 3559 01:54:29,963 --> 01:54:33,099 THAT, SOME GOOD REASONS FOR 3560 01:54:33,099 --> 01:54:34,767 THAT. WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP 3561 01:54:34,767 --> 01:54:35,768 BETWEEN HARBORVIEW AND KING 3562 01:54:35,768 --> 01:54:36,869 COUNTY? SO, AS I SAID, KING 3563 01:54:36,869 --> 01:54:38,938 COUNTY OWNS HARBORVIEW AND WE'VE 3564 01:54:38,938 --> 01:54:40,373 BEEN IN AGREEMENT WITH THEM FOR 3565 01:54:40,373 --> 01:54:42,542 DECADES TO OPERATE IT. BUT WE 3566 01:54:42,542 --> 01:54:44,410 OPERATE UNDER A HOSPITAL 3567 01:54:44,410 --> 01:54:45,612 SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE 3568 01:54:45,612 --> 01:54:48,348 COUNTY. PART OF THAT AGREEMENT 3569 01:54:48,348 --> 01:54:48,948 AGREEMENT ACTUALLY EXPLICITLY 3570 01:54:48,948 --> 01:54:51,484 STATES THAT UW HARBORVIEW TEAM 3571 01:54:51,484 --> 01:54:53,152 IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE HEALTH 3572 01:54:53,152 --> 01:54:55,221 CARE TO INMATES AT THE KING 3573 01:54:55,221 --> 01:54:56,522 COUNTY JAIL. NOW, THOSE ARE 3574 01:54:56,522 --> 01:54:57,757 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ALREADY 3575 01:54:57,757 --> 01:54:59,325 BEEN BOOKED, RIGHT? NOT THE 3576 01:54:59,325 --> 01:55:01,127 SITUATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3577 01:55:01,127 --> 01:55:02,528 HERE. HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T 3578 01:55:02,528 --> 01:55:04,364 REALLY CHANGE. HARBORVIEW 3579 01:55:04,364 --> 01:55:05,398 RESPONSIBILITIES. WHEN A PERSON 3580 01:55:05,398 --> 01:55:07,467 IS PRESENTED TO THE ED FOR 3581 01:55:07,467 --> 01:55:09,102 POSSIBLE MEDICAL CARE, WHETHER 3582 01:55:09,102 --> 01:55:10,837 IT'S BY A SEATTLE POLICE 3583 01:55:10,837 --> 01:55:12,772 OFFICER OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT 3584 01:55:12,772 --> 01:55:14,574 AGENCY, OR JUST BROUGHT TO THE 3585 01:55:14,574 --> 01:55:16,809 ED BY FIRST RESPONDERS OR EVEN 3586 01:55:16,809 --> 01:55:19,912 FAMILY MEMBERS. SO WHAT IS OUR 3587 01:55:19,912 --> 01:55:22,615 RESPONSIBILITY, OUR 3588 01:55:22,615 --> 01:55:24,984 RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT WHEN AN 3589 01:55:24,984 --> 01:55:26,686 INDIVIDUAL IS BROUGHT TO THE 3590 01:55:26,686 --> 01:55:29,622 EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, LIKE ALL 3591 01:55:29,622 --> 01:55:30,957 EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS, WE 3592 01:55:30,957 --> 01:55:32,392 OPERATE UNDER THE WHAT'S CALLED 3593 01:55:32,392 --> 01:55:34,694 THE FEDERAL LAW, THE EMERGENCY 3594 01:55:34,694 --> 01:55:36,129 MEDICAL TREATMENT AND LABOR ACT. 3595 01:55:36,129 --> 01:55:38,031 THAT REQUIRES HOSPITALS WITH 3596 01:55:38,031 --> 01:55:39,632 EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE 3597 01:55:39,632 --> 01:55:42,168 A MEDICAL SCREENING EXAM AND ANY 3598 01:55:42,168 --> 01:55:44,003 STABILIZING TREATMENT TO ANYONE 3599 01:55:44,003 --> 01:55:45,505 WITH AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL 3600 01:55:45,505 --> 01:55:47,507 CONDITION, REGARDLESS OF THEIR 3601 01:55:47,507 --> 01:55:48,841 ABILITY TO PAY OR INSURANCE 3602 01:55:48,841 --> 01:55:50,376 STATUS. NOW, THAT'S SOMETHING 3603 01:55:50,376 --> 01:55:50,977 THAT OUR STAFF AT HARBORVIEW 3604 01:55:50,977 --> 01:55:53,813 TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY, RIGHT ABOVE 3605 01:55:53,813 --> 01:55:55,214 JUST THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT. BUT 3606 01:55:55,214 --> 01:55:56,349 EVERY PATIENT IS GOING TO BE 3607 01:55:56,349 --> 01:55:57,183 SEEN. AND OF COURSE, THEY TRY TO 3608 01:55:57,183 --> 01:55:59,552 DO IT IN AS TIMELY MANNER AS 3609 01:55:59,552 --> 01:56:02,689 POSSIBLE. NOW THAT THAT 3610 01:56:02,689 --> 01:56:03,890 SCREENING COMPONENT IS 3611 01:56:03,890 --> 01:56:04,557 IMPORTANT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT, 3612 01:56:04,557 --> 01:56:05,825 YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT DONE, 3613 01:56:05,825 --> 01:56:07,160 GETTING INITIAL SCREENING AND 3614 01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,629 THEN ANY FOLLOW UP TREATMENT OR 3615 01:56:09,629 --> 01:56:12,565 AS WAS OBSERVED EARLIER, ANY 3616 01:56:12,565 --> 01:56:13,132 OBSERVATION PERIOD THAT'S 3617 01:56:13,132 --> 01:56:15,635 REQUIRED TAKES TIME. AND I THINK 3618 01:56:15,635 --> 01:56:17,537 THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE ISSUE 3619 01:56:17,537 --> 01:56:19,238 THAT THE THE SEATTLE POLICE 3620 01:56:19,238 --> 01:56:19,806 DEPARTMENT WAS POINTING OUT 3621 01:56:19,806 --> 01:56:23,943 EARLIER. SO WE SEE ABOUT AN 3622 01:56:23,943 --> 01:56:25,244 AVERAGE OF 170 TO 180 PATIENTS A 3623 01:56:25,244 --> 01:56:27,180 DAY IN THE ED AND OUR TEAM HAS 3624 01:56:27,180 --> 01:56:29,949 TO OBVIOUSLY PRIORITIZE THOSE 3625 01:56:29,949 --> 01:56:31,517 PATIENTS, AND THEY DO IT 3626 01:56:31,517 --> 01:56:34,153 BASICALLY ON ONE FACTOR, AND 3627 01:56:34,153 --> 01:56:35,021 THAT IS THE ACUITY OF THE 3628 01:56:35,021 --> 01:56:36,289 PATIENT. AND AS THE CHIEF NOTED, 3629 01:56:36,289 --> 01:56:38,057 RIGHT. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SEEING 3630 01:56:38,057 --> 01:56:38,725 ANYTHING FROM PEOPLE BEING 3631 01:56:38,725 --> 01:56:42,195 BROUGHT INTO THE ED BECAUSE THEY 3632 01:56:42,195 --> 01:56:44,330 THINK THEY MIGHT BE SICK. THEY 3633 01:56:44,330 --> 01:56:45,431 MIGHT BRING THEMSELVES IN. IT 3634 01:56:45,431 --> 01:56:46,466 MIGHT BE ONE ONE OF THE 3635 01:56:46,466 --> 01:56:48,267 INDIVIDUALS THAT'S BROUGHT IN ON 3636 01:56:48,267 --> 01:56:50,370 A JAIL DECLINE TO PEOPLE BEING, 3637 01:56:50,370 --> 01:56:52,438 BEING ER, MEDEVACED TO US WITH A 3638 01:56:52,438 --> 01:56:55,508 LEVEL ONE TRAUMA INJURY. SO THIS 3639 01:56:55,508 --> 01:56:58,077 MEANS THAT LOWER ACUITY PATIENTS 3640 01:56:58,077 --> 01:57:00,079 USUALLY DROP TO THE BOTTOM OF 3641 01:57:00,079 --> 01:57:01,814 THE QUEUE UNTIL STAFF HAVE TIME 3642 01:57:01,814 --> 01:57:04,050 TO SEE THEM. THAT MEANS HOURS 3643 01:57:04,050 --> 01:57:06,252 CAN PASS WHILE SICKER PATIENTS 3644 01:57:06,252 --> 01:57:07,320 ARE GIVEN THE PRIORITY. AND 3645 01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:07,987 THAT'S JUST THE PROTOCOL THAT 3646 01:57:07,987 --> 01:57:10,356 YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IN ANY ED. 3647 01:57:10,356 --> 01:57:13,092 BUT CERTAINLY IN THE HARBORVIEW 3648 01:57:13,092 --> 01:57:15,061 EDDIE. AS I AS I'VE UNDERSTOOD 3649 01:57:15,061 --> 01:57:17,663 IT OVER THE YEARS, RIGHT IN THE 3650 01:57:17,663 --> 01:57:19,365 JAIL PROCESS HAS ALREADY BEEN 3651 01:57:19,365 --> 01:57:20,967 DESCRIBED. WHEN AN OFFICER 3652 01:57:20,967 --> 01:57:22,301 PRESENTS AN ARRESTEE FOR BOOKING 3653 01:57:22,301 --> 01:57:24,170 AT THE KING COUNTY JAIL, A KING 3654 01:57:24,170 --> 01:57:26,372 COUNTY JAIL OFFICER AND 3655 01:57:26,372 --> 01:57:27,507 REPRESENTATIVE OF KING COUNTY 3656 01:57:27,507 --> 01:57:28,941 PUBLIC HEALTH, WHICH PROVIDES 3657 01:57:28,941 --> 01:57:30,710 JAIL, HEALTH SERVICES, CONDUCTS 3658 01:57:30,710 --> 01:57:32,345 THIS INITIAL SCREENING AND THE 3659 01:57:32,345 --> 01:57:33,279 CHIEF SHOWED YOU WHAT THAT 3660 01:57:33,279 --> 01:57:34,514 SCREENING FORM LOOKS LIKE. IT'S 3661 01:57:34,514 --> 01:57:36,849 A IT'S A ONE FORM, ONE PAGE 3662 01:57:36,849 --> 01:57:40,319 FORM WITH SEVERAL QUESTIONS. IT 3663 01:57:40,319 --> 01:57:42,755 ALSO ASKS FOR OBSERVATIONS, 3664 01:57:42,755 --> 01:57:43,322 QUESTIONS ABOUT PARTICULAR 3665 01:57:43,322 --> 01:57:45,158 MEDICAL CONDITION, PHYSICAL 3666 01:57:45,158 --> 01:57:46,793 MEDICAL CONDITIONS. AND THEN 3667 01:57:46,793 --> 01:57:48,161 THERE'S ALSO A SECTION ON THE 3668 01:57:48,161 --> 01:57:49,162 INDIVIDUAL'S MENTAL HEALTH. IS 3669 01:57:49,162 --> 01:57:51,664 THERE ANY EVIDENCE OF POTENTIAL 3670 01:57:51,664 --> 01:57:52,298 SUICIDE OR SUICIDAL TENDENCIES 3671 01:57:52,298 --> 01:57:53,699 OR OTHER BEHAVIORAL HEALTH 3672 01:57:53,699 --> 01:57:56,736 CONCERNS. SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, 3673 01:57:56,736 --> 01:57:59,072 ONCE THAT THAT SCREENING, THOSE 3674 01:57:59,072 --> 01:57:59,739 SCREENING QUESTIONS ARE ASKED, 3675 01:57:59,739 --> 01:58:01,641 IF THERE'S A POSITIVE ANSWER, 3676 01:58:01,641 --> 01:58:03,876 THEN THERE'S SOME TYPE OF 3677 01:58:03,876 --> 01:58:06,379 ASSESSMENT DONE BY JAIL HEALTH 3678 01:58:06,379 --> 01:58:06,979 SERVICES AND A DETERMINATION 3679 01:58:06,979 --> 01:58:07,914 MADE BY JAIL HEALTH SERVICES 3680 01:58:07,914 --> 01:58:09,649 ABOUT WHETHER THAT INDIVIDUAL 3681 01:58:09,649 --> 01:58:11,851 CAN THEN BE ACCEPTED AT BOOKING. 3682 01:58:11,851 --> 01:58:13,252 AND AS THE CHIEF NOTED, THERE IS 3683 01:58:13,252 --> 01:58:14,554 AN INFIRMARY AT THE JAIL. I 3684 01:58:14,554 --> 01:58:16,189 ACTUALLY HAVE VISITED IT. IT WAS 3685 01:58:16,189 --> 01:58:18,891 MANY YEARS AGO AND IT PROVIDES 3686 01:58:18,891 --> 01:58:19,792 BASIC MEDICAL SERVICES. IT IS 3687 01:58:19,792 --> 01:58:22,895 CERTAINLY NOT A FULL FLEDGED, 3688 01:58:22,895 --> 01:58:24,697 HEALTH CARE CLINIC, OR CERTAINLY 3689 01:58:24,697 --> 01:58:25,998 NOT ON THE PAR OF AN EMERGENCY 3690 01:58:25,998 --> 01:58:28,301 DEPARTMENT, LET ALONE HARBORVIEW 3691 01:58:28,301 --> 01:58:30,570 EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. BUT IT 3692 01:58:30,570 --> 01:58:32,271 DOES PROVIDE HEALTH SERVICES. SO 3693 01:58:32,271 --> 01:58:33,873 ONCE THAT DETERMINATION IS MADE 3694 01:58:33,873 --> 01:58:35,475 AGAIN, AS WE HEARD, IF THE 3695 01:58:35,475 --> 01:58:37,944 DECISION IS FOR THE JAIL TO 3696 01:58:37,944 --> 01:58:39,779 DECLINE THE BOOKING OF THE 3697 01:58:39,779 --> 01:58:41,113 INDIVIDUAL, THEN IT IS UP TO THE 3698 01:58:41,113 --> 01:58:42,548 OFFICERS, WHETHER IT BE SEATTLE 3699 01:58:42,548 --> 01:58:44,183 POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ANOTHER 3700 01:58:44,183 --> 01:58:46,719 AGENCY, TO TAKE THAT INDIVIDUAL 3701 01:58:46,719 --> 01:58:48,888 TO A NEARBY HOSPITAL. AND, YOU 3702 01:58:48,888 --> 01:58:50,456 KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE STATS ON 3703 01:58:50,456 --> 01:58:52,058 HOW MANY TIMES INDIVIDUALS ARE 3704 01:58:52,058 --> 01:58:54,060 TAKEN TO OTHER HOSPITALS, BUT I 3705 01:58:54,060 --> 01:58:55,461 BELIEVE THE DEFAULT IS 3706 01:58:55,461 --> 01:58:56,896 HARBORVIEW. I THINK THAT'S FOR 3707 01:58:56,896 --> 01:58:58,231 A NUMBER OF REASONS. OBVIOUSLY, 3708 01:58:58,231 --> 01:58:59,532 THERE'S, YOU KNOW, KING COUNTY 3709 01:58:59,532 --> 01:59:02,201 OWNS HARBORVIEW. SO I THINK 3710 01:59:02,201 --> 01:59:02,768 IT'S IT MAKES SENSE THAT 3711 01:59:02,768 --> 01:59:05,771 THERE'S A REFERRAL THERE. BUT I 3712 01:59:05,771 --> 01:59:06,939 ALSO THINK AND THE OFFICERS CAN 3713 01:59:06,939 --> 01:59:07,540 CERTAINLY CORRECT ME IF I'M 3714 01:59:07,540 --> 01:59:09,642 WRONG, BUT I ALSO THINK THERE'S 3715 01:59:09,642 --> 01:59:11,144 ACTUALLY A VERY STRONG 3716 01:59:11,144 --> 01:59:12,645 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE SEATTLE 3717 01:59:12,645 --> 01:59:14,447 POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER LAW 3718 01:59:14,447 --> 01:59:15,047 ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND THE 3719 01:59:15,047 --> 01:59:16,349 FRONTLINE STAFF AT HARBORVIEW. I 3720 01:59:16,349 --> 01:59:17,517 MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, THEY 3721 01:59:17,517 --> 01:59:19,652 INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER A LOT. 3722 01:59:19,652 --> 01:59:21,120 AND SO THEY KNOW EACH OTHER. 3723 01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:21,988 THEY TRUST EACH OTHER. NOT TO 3724 01:59:21,988 --> 01:59:23,089 SAY THERE PROBABLY AREN'T SOME 3725 01:59:23,089 --> 01:59:24,457 DIFFERENCES FROM TIME TO TIME, 3726 01:59:24,457 --> 01:59:26,125 BUT THEY THEY KNOW HOW TO WORK 3727 01:59:26,125 --> 01:59:27,593 TOGETHER WITHIN THE SYSTEM. SO I 3728 01:59:27,593 --> 01:59:30,196 THINK BY AND LARGE, THESE 3729 01:59:30,196 --> 01:59:30,763 INDIVIDUALS ARE BROUGHT TO 3730 01:59:30,763 --> 01:59:32,698 HARBORVIEW. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE 3731 01:59:32,698 --> 01:59:35,001 BEEN LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE WHEN 3732 01:59:35,001 --> 01:59:36,369 WE WERE REACHED OUT TO BY THE 3733 01:59:36,369 --> 01:59:37,370 CITY AND BY THE POLICE 3734 01:59:37,370 --> 01:59:39,138 DEPARTMENT. AS MISS SMITH SAID 3735 01:59:39,138 --> 01:59:41,440 LAST YEAR, AND TOOK A LOOK AT 3736 01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,377 WHAT WE THOUGHT THE IMPACT WAS 3737 01:59:44,377 --> 01:59:48,381 ON OUR EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. WE 3738 01:59:48,381 --> 01:59:49,916 KNOW THAT THAT CASEY JAIL HEALTH 3739 01:59:49,916 --> 01:59:51,050 HAS A PROTOCOL IN PLACE TO TRY 3740 01:59:51,050 --> 01:59:52,351 TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE 3741 01:59:52,351 --> 01:59:53,819 GETTING THE APPROPRIATE MEDICAL 3742 01:59:53,819 --> 01:59:56,255 CARE, BUT WE FOUND IN OUR DATA 3743 01:59:56,255 --> 01:59:57,857 THAT WE LOOKED AT LAST YEAR AND 3744 01:59:57,857 --> 01:59:59,592 THEN AGAIN, THIS YEAR, WE'VE 3745 01:59:59,592 --> 02:00:02,562 BEEN TRACKING THAT THAT THE 3746 02:00:02,562 --> 02:00:03,663 NUMBERS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT 3747 02:00:03,663 --> 02:00:06,265 WE'RE JUST PRESENTED TO YOU. WE 3748 02:00:06,265 --> 02:00:08,434 BELIEVE WE TRACKED JUST A TWO 3749 02:00:08,434 --> 02:00:10,303 WEEK PERIOD LAST YEAR, AND WE 3750 02:00:10,303 --> 02:00:11,604 HAD ABOUT IN THAT TWO WEEK 3751 02:00:11,604 --> 02:00:16,309 PERIOD, 65 JAIL DECLINES BROUGHT 3752 02:00:16,309 --> 02:00:18,444 TO THE EDDIE OF THAT DATA, ABOUT 3753 02:00:18,444 --> 02:00:20,746 55% OF THOSE DECLINES. THE 3754 02:00:20,746 --> 02:00:22,048 REASON GIVEN FOR THEM WERE THE 3755 02:00:22,048 --> 02:00:24,350 TWO REASONS THAT THE CHIEF CITED 3756 02:00:24,350 --> 02:00:25,952 TO DRUG INGESTION OR REPORT OF 3757 02:00:25,952 --> 02:00:27,353 SEXUAL ASSAULT. AND THERE WAS 3758 02:00:27,353 --> 02:00:28,888 ACTUALLY A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER 3759 02:00:28,888 --> 02:00:31,791 WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL WAS 3760 02:00:31,791 --> 02:00:33,893 REPORTING BOTH OF THOSE THOSE 3761 02:00:33,893 --> 02:00:34,660 EVENTS AS THE REASON FOR THE 3762 02:00:34,660 --> 02:00:38,331 DECLINE. AND SO AS A RESULT, WE 3763 02:00:38,331 --> 02:00:40,800 THEN TOOK A LOOK AGAIN AT JUST 3764 02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:41,901 TRACKING THE NUMBERS. I WILL 3765 02:00:41,901 --> 02:00:44,670 TELL YOU, OUR EDDIE STAFF DID IT 3766 02:00:44,670 --> 02:00:46,839 BY PAPER. THEY DON'T LET LACK 3767 02:00:46,839 --> 02:00:47,974 OF TECHNOLOGY GET IN THE WAY. 3768 02:00:47,974 --> 02:00:51,210 BUT FROM JANUARY TILL JUNE OF 3769 02:00:51,210 --> 02:00:51,811 ABOUT THIS YEAR, SO A LITTLE 3770 02:00:51,811 --> 02:00:52,912 SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME THAN WHAT 3771 02:00:52,912 --> 02:00:55,047 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PRESENTED. 3772 02:00:55,047 --> 02:00:57,283 WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 600 3773 02:00:57,283 --> 02:00:58,184 DECLINES THAT WE TRACKED. AND 3774 02:00:58,184 --> 02:01:00,920 AGAIN, I WOULDN'T SAY THE THE 3775 02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:04,957 VAST MAJORITY, BUT NEAR THE NEAR 3776 02:01:04,957 --> 02:01:05,524 MAJORITY WERE FOR THOSE TWO 3777 02:01:05,524 --> 02:01:08,594 REASONS. THERE ARE ALSO 3778 02:01:08,594 --> 02:01:09,528 OBVIOUSLY DOZENS OF MENTAL 3779 02:01:09,528 --> 02:01:11,264 HEALTH RELATED, I THINK, 3780 02:01:11,264 --> 02:01:14,634 DECLINES. AS I SAID, HARBORVIEW 3781 02:01:14,634 --> 02:01:16,636 HAS A VERY LARGE INPATIENT 3782 02:01:16,636 --> 02:01:18,671 PSYCHIATRY UNIT. WE ALSO 3783 02:01:18,671 --> 02:01:19,305 OBVIOUSLY HOST THE INVOLUNTARY 3784 02:01:19,305 --> 02:01:21,207 TREATMENT COURT FOR THE REGION. 3785 02:01:21,207 --> 02:01:22,875 SO SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 3786 02:01:22,875 --> 02:01:24,543 SOME SENSE THERE OR SOME 3787 02:01:24,543 --> 02:01:25,945 CONNECTION THERE. AND THEN OTHER 3788 02:01:25,945 --> 02:01:28,214 MATTERS LIKE HIGH BLOOD 3789 02:01:28,214 --> 02:01:30,383 PRESSURE, WOUND CARE, THINGS 3790 02:01:30,383 --> 02:01:31,851 THAT THAT THAT WERE LISTED ON 3791 02:01:31,851 --> 02:01:34,720 THE DOCUMENTS THAT SPD PRODUCED. 3792 02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:37,156 SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT IT IN 3793 02:01:37,156 --> 02:01:38,991 CONTEXT, RIGHT, WE THE EDDIE IS 3794 02:01:38,991 --> 02:01:42,028 EXTREMELY BUSY. LIKE I SAID, WE 3795 02:01:42,028 --> 02:01:43,729 SEE ABOUT 63,000 PATIENT 3796 02:01:43,729 --> 02:01:45,264 ENCOUNTERS A YEAR. SO THAT MEANS 3797 02:01:45,264 --> 02:01:46,666 WE'RE SEEING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3798 02:01:46,666 --> 02:01:49,468 THREE TO 4 TO 5 DECLINES A DAY. 3799 02:01:49,468 --> 02:01:51,404 BUT AS, AS WAS CITED TO BY THE 3800 02:01:51,404 --> 02:01:53,172 POLICE DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE 3801 02:01:53,172 --> 02:01:54,840 PROTOCOLS THAT WE FOLLOW. SO FOR 3802 02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:56,609 EXAMPLE, IF THERE IS AN INDICIA 3803 02:01:56,609 --> 02:01:58,411 OR EVIDENCE OF DRUG INGESTION, 3804 02:01:58,411 --> 02:02:00,413 OUR EDDIE STAFF IS MOST LIKELY 3805 02:02:00,413 --> 02:02:03,883 GOING TO CONDUCT A SIX HOUR 3806 02:02:03,883 --> 02:02:04,717 OBSERVATION PERIOD. SO THAT 3807 02:02:04,717 --> 02:02:05,718 MEANS WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL 3808 02:02:05,718 --> 02:02:09,689 GOING INTO AN ED BED OR SPACE. 3809 02:02:09,689 --> 02:02:10,256 AND WE'RE OBSERVING THAT 3810 02:02:10,256 --> 02:02:10,823 INDIVIDUAL FOR SIX HOURS. 3811 02:02:10,823 --> 02:02:13,492 THERE'S NOT IN TALKING TO MY 3812 02:02:13,492 --> 02:02:14,794 CHIEF CHARGE NURSE AT HARBORVIEW 3813 02:02:14,794 --> 02:02:16,829 ABOUT THIS ISSUE, HE YOU KNOW, 3814 02:02:16,829 --> 02:02:18,097 HE CLARIFIED FOR ME, LOOK, AND 3815 02:02:18,097 --> 02:02:19,832 THERE'S NOT A MAGIC, YOU KNOW, 3816 02:02:19,832 --> 02:02:22,401 MAGICAL INTERVENTION WITH A 3817 02:02:22,401 --> 02:02:23,669 REPORT OF DRUG INGESTION BECAUSE 3818 02:02:23,669 --> 02:02:24,704 YOU'D HAVE TO DO A FULL BLOOD 3819 02:02:24,704 --> 02:02:25,971 PANEL. YOU'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT 3820 02:02:25,971 --> 02:02:28,708 WHAT THE NARCOTIC ACTUALLY WAS. 3821 02:02:28,708 --> 02:02:29,709 THAT CAN TAKE EVEN LONGER, BUT 3822 02:02:29,709 --> 02:02:30,810 YOU CAN DO AN OBSERVATION PERIOD 3823 02:02:30,810 --> 02:02:33,145 TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ACTUAL 3824 02:02:33,145 --> 02:02:34,080 PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION OF IT. 3825 02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:35,715 AND AFTER ABOUT SIX HOURS, THEY 3826 02:02:35,715 --> 02:02:37,650 CAN USE THEIR EXPERT HEALTHCARE 3827 02:02:37,650 --> 02:02:38,884 OPINION AND MAKE A JUDGMENT. SO 3828 02:02:38,884 --> 02:02:40,319 AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A PERIOD OF 3829 02:02:40,319 --> 02:02:41,854 TIME THAT AN OFFICER WOULD 3830 02:02:41,854 --> 02:02:43,022 EITHER HAVE TO WAIT OR AN 3831 02:02:43,022 --> 02:02:44,557 OFFICER WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A 3832 02:02:44,557 --> 02:02:46,225 DECISION TO LEAVE DURING THAT 3833 02:02:46,225 --> 02:02:48,861 PERIOD. WHEN IT COMES TO THE 3834 02:02:48,861 --> 02:02:49,328 SEXUAL ASSAULT NURSE 3835 02:02:49,328 --> 02:02:52,765 EXAMINATIONS, THIS IS A THIS IS 3836 02:02:52,765 --> 02:02:54,100 A COMPLEX PROCESS THAT WE 3837 02:02:54,100 --> 02:02:55,434 FOLLOW. AND AS MISS SMITH NOTED, 3838 02:02:55,434 --> 02:02:56,769 THERE ARE THERE ARE NOW RECENT 3839 02:02:56,769 --> 02:02:58,671 STATE LAWS THAT HAVE PASSED 3840 02:02:58,671 --> 02:03:00,573 ABOUT MAKING A SANE AVAILABLE. 3841 02:03:00,573 --> 02:03:02,475 WE'RE FORTUNATE AT HARBORVIEW 3842 02:03:02,475 --> 02:03:05,177 IN THAT WE ACTUALLY CREATED THE 3843 02:03:05,177 --> 02:03:06,345 STATE'S SANE TRAINING PROGRAM. 3844 02:03:06,345 --> 02:03:07,613 IT WAS ACTUALLY FOUNDED AT 3845 02:03:07,613 --> 02:03:08,948 HARBORVIEW. SOME OF THE FIRST 3846 02:03:08,948 --> 02:03:10,149 SCENES IN THE STATE WERE 3847 02:03:10,149 --> 02:03:12,318 DEPLOYED AT HARBORVIEW. WE HAVE 3848 02:03:12,318 --> 02:03:15,054 SEEN RESOURCES, BUT AS THE CHIEF 3849 02:03:15,054 --> 02:03:17,022 NOTED, THERE MAY BE TIMES WHERE 3850 02:03:17,022 --> 02:03:18,190 SOMEONE MAY COME INTO THE ED AND 3851 02:03:18,190 --> 02:03:19,391 OUR TRAINED SAINTS WHO ARE ON 3852 02:03:19,391 --> 02:03:21,961 DUTY ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY 3853 02:03:21,961 --> 02:03:22,595 DEPLOYED INTERVIEWING PATIENTS. 3854 02:03:22,595 --> 02:03:24,497 SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO WAIT. 3855 02:03:24,497 --> 02:03:26,165 I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT A 3856 02:03:26,165 --> 02:03:28,134 SANE EXAM, HAVING BEEN A SPECIAL 3857 02:03:28,134 --> 02:03:28,768 ASSAULT PROSECUTOR FOR SEVERAL 3858 02:03:28,768 --> 02:03:31,871 YEARS, A SANE EXAM CAN TAKE 3859 02:03:31,871 --> 02:03:33,405 ANYWHERE FROM BETWEEN 3 TO 4 TO 3860 02:03:33,405 --> 02:03:34,740 EVEN FIVE HOURS. THAT'S HOW 3861 02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:36,408 INTENSIVE IT IS IN TERMS OF THE 3862 02:03:36,408 --> 02:03:38,077 COLLECTION OF FORENSIC EVIDENCE. 3863 02:03:38,077 --> 02:03:38,778 THERE'S ALSO A TON OF SOCIAL 3864 02:03:38,778 --> 02:03:40,946 WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT 3865 02:03:40,946 --> 02:03:42,982 BEFOREHAND. AND THEN AFTER CARE 3866 02:03:42,982 --> 02:03:44,617 FOR THAT FOR THAT PATIENT. IF A 3867 02:03:44,617 --> 02:03:47,753 FULL SANE EXAM IS DONE. NOW, WE 3868 02:03:47,753 --> 02:03:48,854 DO HAVE SOCIAL WORKERS COME AND 3869 02:03:48,854 --> 02:03:50,689 SPEAK WITH OUR PATIENTS WHO ARE 3870 02:03:50,689 --> 02:03:51,891 REPORTING A SEXUAL ASSAULT. AT 3871 02:03:51,891 --> 02:03:53,058 FIRST, SOMETIMES I WOULD SAY 3872 02:03:53,058 --> 02:03:54,593 IT'S THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE 3873 02:03:54,593 --> 02:03:57,430 RULE. SOMETIMES THAT LEADS TO A 3874 02:03:57,430 --> 02:03:58,063 SANE EXAM NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE 3875 02:03:58,063 --> 02:04:02,301 THERE MAY BE A RECANTATION OR AN 3876 02:04:02,301 --> 02:04:03,903 INDICATION THAT IT WASN'T 3877 02:04:03,903 --> 02:04:05,204 WITHIN THE LAST FIVE DAYS. AND 3878 02:04:05,204 --> 02:04:06,539 IF IT'S NOT IN THAT TIME 3879 02:04:06,539 --> 02:04:07,907 PERIOD, THEN THE PROTOCOL IS NOT 3880 02:04:07,907 --> 02:04:09,442 TO CONDUCT THE EXAM BECAUSE 3881 02:04:09,442 --> 02:04:10,476 IT'S UNLIKELY THERE WILL BE 3882 02:04:10,476 --> 02:04:11,610 PHYSICAL EVIDENCE. BUT WE DO 3883 02:04:11,610 --> 02:04:12,745 HAVE A FAIR NUMBER OF 3884 02:04:12,745 --> 02:04:14,814 INDIVIDUALS, NOT JUST 3885 02:04:14,814 --> 02:04:15,414 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DECLINED, 3886 02:04:15,414 --> 02:04:17,116 WHO DO INITIALLY REPORT A SEXUAL 3887 02:04:17,116 --> 02:04:18,651 ASSAULT, WHO ALSO CHOOSE NOT TO 3888 02:04:18,651 --> 02:04:19,919 GO FORWARD WITH THE SANE EXAM. 3889 02:04:19,919 --> 02:04:21,954 SO AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE ARE 3890 02:04:21,954 --> 02:04:24,757 THINGS THAT CAN LEAD TO LENGTHY 3891 02:04:24,757 --> 02:04:25,357 PERIODS OF TIME LAPSING FROM 3892 02:04:25,357 --> 02:04:27,092 WHEN A PERSON PRESENTS AT THE 3893 02:04:27,092 --> 02:04:30,830 EDDIE FRONT DOOR AND TO WHEN 3894 02:04:30,830 --> 02:04:31,463 THEY'RE ACTUALLY RELEASED. I 3895 02:04:31,463 --> 02:04:33,799 WILL THE IN THE DATA THAT WE 3896 02:04:33,799 --> 02:04:35,701 COLLECTED, VERY FEW OF THE, THE 3897 02:04:35,701 --> 02:04:37,636 CASES THAT WE BELIEVE WERE JAIL 3898 02:04:37,636 --> 02:04:39,705 DECLINES WERE ACTUALLY ADMITTED 3899 02:04:39,705 --> 02:04:41,574 TO THE HOSPITAL. THAT'S THAT'S 3900 02:04:41,574 --> 02:04:43,409 ACTUALLY TRUE FOR A SIGNIFICANT 3901 02:04:43,409 --> 02:04:45,010 NUMBER OF ED VISITS. NOT EVERY 3902 02:04:45,010 --> 02:04:47,446 PERSON WHO COMES TO THE ED IS 3903 02:04:47,446 --> 02:04:47,947 LATER ADMITTED INTO THE 3904 02:04:47,947 --> 02:04:48,914 HOSPITAL. IT'S ACTUALLY, AGAIN, 3905 02:04:48,914 --> 02:04:51,484 THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE. SO IN 3906 02:04:51,484 --> 02:04:53,118 CONCLUSION, I WOULD JUST STATE 3907 02:04:53,118 --> 02:04:56,155 THAT. YES, CERTAINLY VOLUME, YOU 3908 02:04:56,155 --> 02:05:00,059 KNOW, COMING TO THE ED IN THESE 3909 02:05:00,059 --> 02:05:01,827 INSTANCES DOES IMPACT OUR STAFF. 3910 02:05:01,827 --> 02:05:03,329 IT IMPACTS IT IN THE NUMBERS 3911 02:05:03,329 --> 02:05:05,331 THAT I GAVE, WE SEE THOUSANDS 3912 02:05:05,331 --> 02:05:06,265 AND THOUSANDS OF PATIENTS. OUR 3913 02:05:06,265 --> 02:05:08,634 STAFF IS VERY GOOD AT TRIAGING 3914 02:05:08,634 --> 02:05:09,168 AND MOVING THROUGH THOSE 3915 02:05:09,168 --> 02:05:10,436 PATIENTS. BUT THERE CERTAINLY IS 3916 02:05:10,436 --> 02:05:14,039 AN IMPACT HERE. WE'VE HAD SOME 3917 02:05:14,039 --> 02:05:14,607 CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH THE 3918 02:05:14,607 --> 02:05:16,976 CITY. WE'VE ALSO HAD IT WITH 3919 02:05:16,976 --> 02:05:18,577 OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE COUNTY, 3920 02:05:18,577 --> 02:05:19,912 AND I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, JAIL 3921 02:05:19,912 --> 02:05:20,880 PUBLIC HEALTH IS INTERESTED IN 3922 02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:23,449 TRYING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, 3923 02:05:23,449 --> 02:05:25,518 PARTICULARLY AROUND THE CLINICAL 3924 02:05:25,518 --> 02:05:26,185 DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE. I THINK 3925 02:05:26,185 --> 02:05:27,887 THAT'S WHERE OUR CLINICAL 3926 02:05:27,887 --> 02:05:29,688 EXPERTS IN THE ED CAN BE OF 3927 02:05:29,688 --> 02:05:31,657 HELP. AND HAVING THOSE 3928 02:05:31,657 --> 02:05:32,224 DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THE 3929 02:05:32,224 --> 02:05:33,859 APPROPRIATE CLINICAL PROTOCOL IS 3930 02:05:33,859 --> 02:05:36,161 OR IS NOT. I THINK THESE 3931 02:05:36,161 --> 02:05:37,696 PROTOCOLS WERE PUT IN PLACE WITH 3932 02:05:37,696 --> 02:05:38,464 A LOT OF HARD WORK, BUT THEY 3933 02:05:38,464 --> 02:05:40,232 WERE PUT IN PLACE A LONG TIME 3934 02:05:40,232 --> 02:05:42,201 AGO, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, AND I 3935 02:05:42,201 --> 02:05:43,302 THINK IT MAY BE TIME TO LOOK AT 3936 02:05:43,302 --> 02:05:45,437 THEM AGAIN AND SEE IF WE CAN 3937 02:05:45,437 --> 02:05:47,006 MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. SO I 3938 02:05:47,006 --> 02:05:47,673 BELIEVE THE YOU KNOW, I DON'T I 3939 02:05:47,673 --> 02:05:48,507 DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THEIR 3940 02:05:48,507 --> 02:05:51,644 BEHALF, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I DO 3941 02:05:51,644 --> 02:05:52,711 BELIEVE THE COUNTY IS. EXPERTS 3942 02:05:52,711 --> 02:05:53,612 IN PUBLIC HEALTH ARE WILLING TO 3943 02:05:53,612 --> 02:05:55,381 HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. THEY'VE 3944 02:05:55,381 --> 02:05:56,048 THEY'VE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO 3945 02:05:56,048 --> 02:05:58,417 OUR FOLKS AT HARBORVIEW AS WELL. 3946 02:05:58,417 --> 02:05:59,385 SO WITH THAT, I'LL IN MY 3947 02:05:59,385 --> 02:06:01,921 PRESENTATION, HAPPY TO ANSWER 3948 02:06:01,921 --> 02:06:02,288 ANY QUESTIONS. 3949 02:06:02,288 --> 02:06:04,189 -- THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH. THIS 3950 02:06:04,189 --> 02:06:07,293 IS REALLY IMPORTANT, REALLY 3951 02:06:07,293 --> 02:06:09,862 IMPORTANT. AND I'M RIGHT NOW 3952 02:06:09,862 --> 02:06:10,529 REGRETTING THAT MISS HOLCOMB'S 3953 02:06:10,529 --> 02:06:14,867 NOT HERE BECAUSE PILLAR SIX OF 3954 02:06:14,867 --> 02:06:16,302 THE STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK PLAN IS 3955 02:06:16,302 --> 02:06:20,339 US WORKING TOGETHER AS A CITY 3956 02:06:20,339 --> 02:06:21,507 TEAM TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND 3957 02:06:21,507 --> 02:06:22,875 THE STATE, IN THIS CASE, THE 3958 02:06:22,875 --> 02:06:24,810 COUNTY. OBVIOUSLY, PUBLIC 3959 02:06:24,810 --> 02:06:26,445 HEALTH, SOME INVESTMENT IN 3960 02:06:26,445 --> 02:06:27,112 PUBLIC HEALTH AT THE JAIL, JAIL, 3961 02:06:27,112 --> 02:06:32,651 HEALTH I MEAN, THE DOLLARS AND 3962 02:06:32,651 --> 02:06:33,118 CENTS EXECUTIVES ARE 3963 02:06:33,118 --> 02:06:33,986 HIGHLIGHTING. MAYOR WILSON 3964 02:06:33,986 --> 02:06:34,687 SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY THIS IS A 3965 02:06:34,687 --> 02:06:37,256 NO BRAINER. IF YOU JUST LOOK AT 3966 02:06:37,256 --> 02:06:38,324 THE NUMBERS FROM A BUDGET AND WE 3967 02:06:38,324 --> 02:06:40,893 HAVE MAJOR BUDGET ISSUES AT THE 3968 02:06:40,893 --> 02:06:43,095 COUNTY HERE, AND ALSO THE STATE, 3969 02:06:43,095 --> 02:06:45,397 AND IT BECOMES A NO BRAINER. AND 3970 02:06:45,397 --> 02:06:46,899 SO WE WILL PRESS THIS, PRESS 3971 02:06:46,899 --> 02:06:49,268 FORWARD ON THIS. AND THIS IS 3972 02:06:49,268 --> 02:06:50,703 WHERE. MR.. YOUR YOU'RE VERY 3973 02:06:50,703 --> 02:06:52,338 IMPORTANT. AND HARBORVIEW IS 3974 02:06:52,338 --> 02:06:53,706 VERY, VERY IMPORTANT VOICE IN 3975 02:06:53,706 --> 02:06:56,175 THIS. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 3976 02:06:56,175 --> 02:06:59,345 COMING FORWARD ON THIS. AND I 3977 02:06:59,345 --> 02:07:00,813 COULD DO AN EDITORIAL COMMENT 3978 02:07:00,813 --> 02:07:01,914 FOR YOUR SPD COLLEAGUES. THEY'RE 3979 02:07:01,914 --> 02:07:03,315 LIKE, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE 3980 02:07:03,315 --> 02:07:05,651 AUTHORIZED THE SCORE AGREEMENT, 3981 02:07:05,651 --> 02:07:06,752 THAT NEVER HAPPENED. BUT THAT'S 3982 02:07:06,752 --> 02:07:09,888 A SIDE NOTE. ALL RIGHT, 3983 02:07:09,888 --> 02:07:12,124 COLLEAGUES IN THE INTEREST OF 3984 02:07:12,124 --> 02:07:13,659 TIME, I'D LIKE TO BE BRIEF. BUT 3985 02:07:13,659 --> 02:07:18,030 VICE CHAIR, ANY QUESTIONS OR 3986 02:07:18,030 --> 02:07:18,297 COMMENTS. 3987 02:07:18,297 --> 02:07:21,867 -- SO THANK YOU. CUSTOMARY 3988 02:07:21,867 --> 02:07:22,501 APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE. GOT 3989 02:07:22,501 --> 02:07:26,138 TO BE BRIEF. SO APPARENTLY 3990 02:07:26,138 --> 02:07:29,241 THERE'S A GOVERNING LAW 3991 02:07:29,241 --> 02:07:30,809 PRESUMABLY AT THE STATE LEVEL 3992 02:07:30,809 --> 02:07:32,645 MIGHT BE AT THE COUNTY THAT 3993 02:07:32,645 --> 02:07:34,580 SPECIFIES THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE 3994 02:07:34,580 --> 02:07:36,215 PEOPLE MUST RECEIVE MEDICAL 3995 02:07:36,215 --> 02:07:37,950 SERVICES OF SOME SORT. MR. 3996 02:07:37,950 --> 02:07:39,985 GOODHUE, THIS IS WHAT YOU KIND 3997 02:07:39,985 --> 02:07:41,353 OF STARTED OFF. YOUR 3998 02:07:41,353 --> 02:07:44,657 PRESENTATION IS TALKING ABOUT. 3999 02:07:44,657 --> 02:07:54,066 DOES THIS GOVERNING LAW. THAT 4000 02:07:54,066 --> 02:07:54,700 REQUIRES MEDICAL SERVICES. DOES 4001 02:07:54,700 --> 02:07:56,168 IT PURPORT TO SPECIFY OR 4002 02:07:56,168 --> 02:07:56,802 CONTEMPLATE WHETHER THE MEDICAL 4003 02:07:56,802 --> 02:08:00,305 SERVICES MUST BE ADMINISTERED OR 4004 02:08:00,305 --> 02:08:02,841 RECEIVED ON SITE AT JAIL VERSUS 4005 02:08:02,841 --> 02:08:05,210 AT A NON JAIL HOSPITAL? 4006 02:08:05,210 --> 02:08:07,880 -- YEAH. NO, IT'S A GREAT 4007 02:08:07,880 --> 02:08:08,514 QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER. SO THE 4008 02:08:08,514 --> 02:08:12,685 LAW THAT I CITED TO IS CALLED 4009 02:08:12,685 --> 02:08:15,054 THE EMERGENCY. EMERGENCY 4010 02:08:15,054 --> 02:08:16,655 MANAGEMENT, LABOR TREATMENT AND 4011 02:08:16,655 --> 02:08:18,457 LABOR ACT, THAT THAT ACTUALLY 4012 02:08:18,457 --> 02:08:19,892 ONLY APPLIES TO ACUTE CARE 4013 02:08:19,892 --> 02:08:21,760 HOSPITALS. SO HOSPITALS LIKE 4014 02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,396 HARBORVIEW OR VIRGINIA MASON OR 4015 02:08:24,396 --> 02:08:26,432 PROVIDENCE. AND WHAT THAT SAYS 4016 02:08:26,432 --> 02:08:27,633 IS WHEN A PATIENT PRESENTS AT 4017 02:08:27,633 --> 02:08:29,368 THE FRONT DOOR OF THE EDDIE OF 4018 02:08:29,368 --> 02:08:31,603 AN ACUTE CARE HOSPITAL, IT'S 4019 02:08:31,603 --> 02:08:32,271 ACTUALLY CONDITIONED ON THE FACT 4020 02:08:32,271 --> 02:08:34,506 THAT YOU RECEIVE FEDERAL 4021 02:08:34,506 --> 02:08:36,375 MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE 4022 02:08:36,375 --> 02:08:38,677 CARE YOU PROVIDE. THOSE 4023 02:08:38,677 --> 02:08:40,446 HOSPITALS HAVE TO CONDUCT IN THE 4024 02:08:40,446 --> 02:08:42,514 EDDIE AN INITIAL HEALTH 4025 02:08:42,514 --> 02:08:43,248 SCREENING AND THEN PROVIDE ANY 4026 02:08:43,248 --> 02:08:45,551 EMERGENT FOLLOW UP CARE THAT 4027 02:08:45,551 --> 02:08:48,120 THAT DOES, SO THAT LAW WOULD NOT 4028 02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,255 APPLY TO JAIL HEALTH SERVICES. 4029 02:08:50,255 --> 02:08:51,623 THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP 4030 02:08:51,623 --> 02:08:52,925 IS THAT EXPLAINS THAT ONCE AN 4031 02:08:52,925 --> 02:08:54,860 OFFICER PRESENTS THAT PATIENT TO 4032 02:08:54,860 --> 02:08:56,195 HARBORVIEW, UNLESS THE PATIENT 4033 02:08:56,195 --> 02:08:57,830 WANTS TO LEAVE AGAINST MEDICAL 4034 02:08:57,830 --> 02:09:00,566 ADVICE, WE HAVE TO THEN GO 4035 02:09:00,566 --> 02:09:01,867 THROUGH THAT SCREENING AND THEN 4036 02:09:01,867 --> 02:09:02,634 PROVIDE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE 4037 02:09:02,634 --> 02:09:06,138 DRUG INGESTION EXAMPLE, A SIX 4038 02:09:06,138 --> 02:09:08,173 HOUR OBSERVATION PERIOD. SO 4039 02:09:08,173 --> 02:09:09,341 THAT'S THOSE ARE REQUIREMENTS. 4040 02:09:09,341 --> 02:09:10,342 -- NOT THE. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK 4041 02:09:10,342 --> 02:09:13,779 YOU. NEXT QUESTION IS. SO AT A 4042 02:09:13,779 --> 02:09:14,413 BARE MINIMUM, I AGREE WITH THE 4043 02:09:14,413 --> 02:09:15,180 ASSESSMENT THAT MR. GOODHUE THAT 4044 02:09:15,180 --> 02:09:19,084 YOU MENTIONED AT THE END, LIKE 4045 02:09:19,084 --> 02:09:20,586 THIS SET OF CRITERIA AND 4046 02:09:20,586 --> 02:09:22,054 PROTOCOLS NEED TO BE REVISITED 4047 02:09:22,054 --> 02:09:24,690 AND REVISED IN LIGHT OF TODAY'S 4048 02:09:24,690 --> 02:09:28,093 CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS AND 4049 02:09:28,093 --> 02:09:32,064 CHALLENGES, BUT ALSO SO STARTING 4050 02:09:32,064 --> 02:09:33,432 POINT ONE ALSO IS A STARTING 4051 02:09:33,432 --> 02:09:34,099 POINT. WHY CAN'T WE JUST PUSH 4052 02:09:34,099 --> 02:09:38,303 KING COUNTY JAIL FOR EXPANDED TO 4053 02:09:38,303 --> 02:09:40,672 PROVIDE AN EXPANDED SCOPE OF 4054 02:09:40,672 --> 02:09:41,273 MEDICAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH 4055 02:09:41,273 --> 02:09:42,141 SERVICES THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE 4056 02:09:42,141 --> 02:09:44,276 ON SITE THAT PRESUMABLY 4057 02:09:44,276 --> 02:09:45,744 WOULDN'T REQUIRE UNIFORM, YOU 4058 02:09:45,744 --> 02:09:49,882 KNOW, SOMEONE TO GUARD THEM OR 4059 02:09:49,882 --> 02:09:50,883 WHATEVER FROM SPD ON SITE, JUST 4060 02:09:50,883 --> 02:09:52,384 EXPAND THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY 4061 02:09:52,384 --> 02:09:55,220 CAN PROVIDE ON SITE VERSUS OFF 4062 02:09:55,220 --> 02:09:57,189 SITE REQUIRED REQUIREMENT AT 4063 02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:58,557 HARBORVIEW. WHY CAN'T WE JUST 4064 02:09:58,557 --> 02:10:00,259 PUSH OR NEGOTIATE FOR FOR THAT? 4065 02:10:00,259 --> 02:10:01,894 BECAUSE THIS SOUNDS LIKE A 4066 02:10:01,894 --> 02:10:04,730 SYSTEM ISSUE. THAT'S NOT JUST 4067 02:10:04,730 --> 02:10:06,532 FRUSTRATING, YOU KNOW, US HERE 4068 02:10:06,532 --> 02:10:09,134 WITHIN THE CITY OF SEATTLE, 4069 02:10:09,134 --> 02:10:10,802 IT'S ACROSS THE ENTIRE REGION 4070 02:10:10,802 --> 02:10:12,538 SYSTEM. WHY CAN'T WE JUST PUSH 4071 02:10:12,538 --> 02:10:14,439 FOR BETTER, MORE EXPANDED 4072 02:10:14,439 --> 02:10:15,607 MEDICAL CARE AND COVERAGE TO 4073 02:10:15,607 --> 02:10:16,575 HANDLE THIS? SO IT DOESN'T NEED 4074 02:10:16,575 --> 02:10:18,477 TO GO TO HARBORVIEW? 4075 02:10:18,477 --> 02:10:19,845 -- I THINK YOU CAN. SO I THINK 4076 02:10:19,845 --> 02:10:22,214 THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES. I THINK 4077 02:10:22,214 --> 02:10:23,849 WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER TO BE 4078 02:10:23,849 --> 02:10:25,017 ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT 4079 02:10:25,017 --> 02:10:28,287 TO NOTE THAT I THINK WE ALL HAVE 4080 02:10:28,287 --> 02:10:30,022 STAFFING CAPACITY ISSUES AND 4081 02:10:30,022 --> 02:10:30,522 RESOURCE. SO FINANCIAL 4082 02:10:30,522 --> 02:10:31,156 RESTRAINTS. AND SO I THINK THAT 4083 02:10:31,156 --> 02:10:32,558 IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN 4084 02:10:32,558 --> 02:10:34,259 YOU COME TOGETHER WITH THE 4085 02:10:34,259 --> 02:10:34,893 EXECUTIVE TO TALK TO THE COUNTY 4086 02:10:34,893 --> 02:10:36,762 ABOUT. 4087 02:10:36,762 --> 02:10:37,262 -- WE ALL HAVE CAPACITY 4088 02:10:37,262 --> 02:10:37,896 CONSTRAINTS AND. YES. AND THEN 4089 02:10:37,896 --> 02:10:41,633 BUT WHEN ONE MAIN SYSTEM, THEIR 4090 02:10:41,633 --> 02:10:45,137 CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS, IT RESULTS 4091 02:10:45,137 --> 02:10:46,271 IN COUNTLESS HOURS, HUNDREDS OF 4092 02:10:46,271 --> 02:10:50,075 HOURS OF OFFICER AND HUNDREDS OF 4093 02:10:50,075 --> 02:10:51,143 POTENTIALLY MILLIONS, TENS OF 4094 02:10:51,143 --> 02:10:52,811 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SLOWER 4095 02:10:52,811 --> 02:10:54,746 RESPONSE TIMES IN THE CITY OF 4096 02:10:54,746 --> 02:10:56,081 SEATTLE ALONE. NOT TO MENTION 4097 02:10:56,081 --> 02:10:56,682 THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHO 4098 02:10:56,682 --> 02:10:57,983 ARE NO DOUBT CONFRONTED WITH 4099 02:10:57,983 --> 02:11:00,752 SIMILAR CHALLENGES. AND SO, 4100 02:11:00,752 --> 02:11:03,188 YEAH, THE URGENCY IS FELT UPON 4101 02:11:03,188 --> 02:11:07,459 ALL OF US. AND THE THE PINCH 4102 02:11:07,459 --> 02:11:08,227 POINT IS CLEAR FOR, FOR, FOR 4103 02:11:08,227 --> 02:11:11,063 SOME IN PARTICULAR. BUT THE 4104 02:11:11,063 --> 02:11:12,164 UNDERLYING CHALLENGES AS IT 4105 02:11:12,164 --> 02:11:14,166 RELATES TO OFFICER CAPACITY ARE 4106 02:11:14,166 --> 02:11:15,601 NOT UNIQUE TO THE OR SPECIFIC TO 4107 02:11:15,601 --> 02:11:17,169 THE CITY OF SEATTLE. WE TALKED 4108 02:11:17,169 --> 02:11:18,770 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL 4109 02:11:18,770 --> 02:11:20,239 REGIONAL IMPLICATIONS HERE. BUT 4110 02:11:20,239 --> 02:11:21,673 ASIDE FROM THAT, LIKE HOW HOW DO 4111 02:11:21,673 --> 02:11:23,876 OTHER MAJOR JURISDICTIONS DEAL 4112 02:11:23,876 --> 02:11:24,676 WITH THE SAME CHALLENGES? LIKE, 4113 02:11:24,676 --> 02:11:27,379 LET'S SAY IN SAN FRANCISCO OR 4114 02:11:27,379 --> 02:11:29,881 OTHER KIND OF MAJOR, MAJOR 4115 02:11:29,881 --> 02:11:31,283 CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY? 4116 02:11:31,283 --> 02:11:32,517 -- I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER AS 4117 02:11:32,517 --> 02:11:35,287 FAR AS SAN FRANCISCO, BUT I DID 4118 02:11:35,287 --> 02:11:37,890 WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR 4119 02:11:37,890 --> 02:11:38,523 PREVIOUS QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER 4120 02:11:38,523 --> 02:11:39,992 SAKA. THIS IS NOT A THE SAME AS 4121 02:11:39,992 --> 02:11:42,861 IT ALWAYS WAS, MEANING THAT OVER 4122 02:11:42,861 --> 02:11:43,962 THE COURSE OF MY CAREER AS AN 4123 02:11:43,962 --> 02:11:46,198 OFFICER ON THE SEATTLE POLICE 4124 02:11:46,198 --> 02:11:47,432 DEPARTMENT, TYPICALLY WHEN I 4125 02:11:47,432 --> 02:11:49,334 WOULD BRING AN ARRESTEE TO THE 4126 02:11:49,334 --> 02:11:50,669 KING COUNTY JAIL AND THEY WOULD 4127 02:11:50,669 --> 02:11:52,004 BRING UP THEIR MEDICAL CONCERNS, 4128 02:11:52,004 --> 02:11:53,338 I WOULD TELL THEM, NO WORRIES. 4129 02:11:53,338 --> 02:11:54,806 KING COUNTY JAIL IS EQUIPPED 4130 02:11:54,806 --> 02:11:56,975 WITH A FULL SERVICE MEDICAL 4131 02:11:56,975 --> 02:11:57,843 FACILITY. THEY WILL ATTEND TO 4132 02:11:57,843 --> 02:12:00,846 ALL OF THOSE ISSUES. IT HAD 4133 02:12:00,846 --> 02:12:01,380 NEVER BEEN A COMMONPLACE 4134 02:12:01,380 --> 02:12:02,914 PRACTICE TO HAVE TO TRANSPORT 4135 02:12:02,914 --> 02:12:04,583 SOMEBODY UP TO A HOSPITAL UNLESS 4136 02:12:04,583 --> 02:12:06,351 THERE WAS TRULY, WELL, LET ME 4137 02:12:06,351 --> 02:12:08,921 SAY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY 4138 02:12:08,921 --> 02:12:10,489 SOMETHING THAT WAS BEYOND THEIR 4139 02:12:10,489 --> 02:12:11,089 CAPACITY TO HANDLE SOMETHING 4140 02:12:11,089 --> 02:12:11,990 THAT WAS TRULY REQUIRING THE 4141 02:12:11,990 --> 02:12:14,826 MEDICAL INTERVENTION OF, SAY, 4142 02:12:14,826 --> 02:12:15,427 HARBORVIEW MEDICAL CENTER. SO 4143 02:12:15,427 --> 02:12:17,296 THESE JAIL DECLINES. THIS IS A 4144 02:12:17,296 --> 02:12:20,265 RECENT PAST FEW YEARS PAST FIVE, 4145 02:12:20,265 --> 02:12:23,035 SIX YEARS PHENOMENON. SO IN THE 4146 02:12:23,035 --> 02:12:24,469 PAST, IT'S WORKED WHERE THEY 4147 02:12:24,469 --> 02:12:26,471 TOOK CARE OF ALL THE MEDICAL 4148 02:12:26,471 --> 02:12:27,739 NEEDS. I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO 4149 02:12:27,739 --> 02:12:29,041 THE SAN FRANCISCO QUESTION, 4150 02:12:29,041 --> 02:12:29,274 THOUGH. 4151 02:12:29,274 --> 02:12:31,009 -- WELL, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU 4152 02:12:31,009 --> 02:12:33,011 ALL AND THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH 4153 02:12:33,011 --> 02:12:35,614 MORE BROADLY TO TO EXPLORE 4154 02:12:35,614 --> 02:12:38,650 WORKING MODELS AND BEST 4155 02:12:38,650 --> 02:12:40,152 PRACTICES ACROSS OTHER 4156 02:12:40,152 --> 02:12:40,819 JURISDICTIONS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT 4157 02:12:40,819 --> 02:12:42,220 UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE 4158 02:12:42,220 --> 02:12:43,221 HERE WITHIN THIS REGION. AND 4159 02:12:43,221 --> 02:12:44,456 IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF 4160 02:12:44,456 --> 02:12:46,058 SEATTLE. YOU KNOW, FROM A 4161 02:12:46,058 --> 02:12:46,858 NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE. FINALLY, 4162 02:12:46,858 --> 02:12:47,659 I'LL NOTE, CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR 4163 02:12:47,659 --> 02:12:50,996 INDULGING ME THAT I APPRECIATE 4164 02:12:50,996 --> 02:12:53,966 SOME OF THE INITIAL DATA AND 4165 02:12:53,966 --> 02:12:56,201 EVIDENCE GATHERED HERE TODAY. I 4166 02:12:56,201 --> 02:12:58,270 WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL AND 4167 02:12:58,270 --> 02:13:02,574 THE EXECUTIVE PARTNER SIDE TO 4168 02:13:02,574 --> 02:13:07,312 SPECIFICALLY QUANTIFY HOW, WITH 4169 02:13:07,312 --> 02:13:10,215 MORE PRECISION, ACCURACY AND 4170 02:13:10,215 --> 02:13:12,984 DETAIL, HOW JAIL DEFERRALS ARE 4171 02:13:12,984 --> 02:13:15,087 AFFECTING OVERALL RESPONSE 4172 02:13:15,087 --> 02:13:17,689 TIMES, PATROL AVAILABILITY, 4173 02:13:17,689 --> 02:13:18,223 OVERTIME COSTS BEYOND THE 4174 02:13:18,223 --> 02:13:22,828 WEEKEND EXAMPLE PROVIDED AND 4175 02:13:22,828 --> 02:13:26,365 YEAH, BUT IT'S CLEAR WE HAVE AN 4176 02:13:26,365 --> 02:13:27,766 OPPORTUNITY AS A REGION AND AS A 4177 02:13:27,766 --> 02:13:28,834 BROADER SYSTEM, NOT JUST THE 4178 02:13:28,834 --> 02:13:31,002 CITY OF SEATTLE TO DO BETTER. SO 4179 02:13:31,002 --> 02:13:31,636 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP. 4180 02:13:31,636 --> 02:13:33,772 THAT IS ALL, MR. CHAIR. 4181 02:13:33,772 --> 02:13:36,274 -- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR I WILL 4182 02:13:36,274 --> 02:13:37,609 ADMIT, I WOULD BE GREAT TO MOVE 4183 02:13:37,609 --> 02:13:40,278 ON TO AGENDA ITEM THREE, JUST TO 4184 02:13:40,278 --> 02:13:40,846 HAVE IT INTRODUCED INTO THE 4185 02:13:40,846 --> 02:13:43,148 SYSTEM. AND I THINK THIS WILL BE 4186 02:13:43,148 --> 02:13:44,950 AN AREA OF FOLLOW UP. I LOVE TO 4187 02:13:44,950 --> 02:13:47,919 WORK WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND 4188 02:13:47,919 --> 02:13:50,355 FOR THE MEMBERS AT THE TABLE TO 4189 02:13:50,355 --> 02:13:51,423 WORK WITH DIRECTOR HOLCOMB AND 4190 02:13:51,423 --> 02:13:53,859 THE AND THE MAYOR, AND TO THEN, 4191 02:13:53,859 --> 02:13:56,161 IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HARBORVIEW. 4192 02:13:56,161 --> 02:13:58,497 BUT. BUT ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, KING 4193 02:13:58,497 --> 02:13:59,364 COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND KING COUNTY 4194 02:13:59,364 --> 02:14:01,400 COUNCIL. WE CAN DO OUR PART 4195 02:14:01,400 --> 02:14:02,467 THERE. AND THEY KNOW ABOUT THE 4196 02:14:02,467 --> 02:14:03,702 SYSTEM BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN TO 4197 02:14:03,702 --> 02:14:05,637 THEM, DIFFERENT MEMBERS ABOUT 4198 02:14:05,637 --> 02:14:08,173 THIS. AND I WILL FOLLOW UP THIS 4199 02:14:08,173 --> 02:14:09,674 WITH A CALL TO THEM ON THAT. BUT 4200 02:14:09,674 --> 02:14:12,778 I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING 4201 02:14:12,778 --> 02:14:15,280 HERE. AND AND THIS IS A STEP 4202 02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:15,881 WHICH I BELIEVE SHOULD BE THE 4203 02:14:15,881 --> 02:14:19,951 NEXT STEP, BECAUSE WE ARE IN A 4204 02:14:19,951 --> 02:14:20,452 PERIOD OF STRONG FISCAL 4205 02:14:20,452 --> 02:14:23,822 CHALLENGES. AND IT'S JUST, TO 4206 02:14:23,822 --> 02:14:25,457 BE BLUNT, RIDICULOUS THAT FOR A 4207 02:14:25,457 --> 02:14:27,826 COST OF A SANE CERTIFIED NURSE 4208 02:14:27,826 --> 02:14:30,262 AND SOME OTHER MEDICAL THROUGH 4209 02:14:30,262 --> 02:14:32,564 PUBLIC HEALTH, THE SAVINGS NOT 4210 02:14:32,564 --> 02:14:37,769 JUST SPD, BUT TO TO HARBORVIEW, 4211 02:14:37,769 --> 02:14:39,104 TO VIRGINIA MASON AND THE OTHER, 4212 02:14:39,104 --> 02:14:40,338 THE IMPACTED HOSPITALS. SO THANK 4213 02:14:40,338 --> 02:14:41,907 YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, 4214 02:14:41,907 --> 02:14:44,276 COLLEAGUES. I APPRECIATE IT. 4215 02:14:44,276 --> 02:14:45,377 COLLEAGUES. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 4216 02:14:45,377 --> 02:14:46,545 NUMBER THREE ON OUR BUSINESS. 4217 02:14:46,545 --> 02:14:47,779 CLERK WILL PLEASE READ THE 4218 02:14:47,779 --> 02:14:49,448 AGENDA ITEM INTO THE RECORD. 4219 02:14:49,448 --> 02:14:50,248 COLLEAGUES, THIS IS GOING TO BE 4220 02:14:50,248 --> 02:14:52,384 AN INTRODUCTION ONLY. SO I'M NOT 4221 02:14:52,384 --> 02:14:55,821 EVEN GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION I 4222 02:14:55,821 --> 02:14:58,256 JUST ASKED MR. STRAUSS. 4223 02:14:58,256 --> 02:14:58,890 COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS HAS JOINED 4224 02:14:58,890 --> 02:15:00,725 US TO AND HIS PARTNERSHIP WITH 4225 02:15:00,725 --> 02:15:05,263 CENTRAL STAFF, MR. CHOW, MISS 4226 02:15:05,263 --> 02:15:05,897 LABRECQUE TO GIVE THE. A BRIEF 4227 02:15:05,897 --> 02:15:06,865 OVERVIEW OF THIS AS PART OF THE 4228 02:15:06,865 --> 02:15:11,603 INTRODUCTION INTO IT, I WILL SAY 4229 02:15:11,603 --> 02:15:12,437 TO COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, USE 4230 02:15:12,437 --> 02:15:15,440 YOUR TIME. FROM 4231 02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:15,774 -- [LAUGHTER] 4232 02:15:15,774 --> 02:15:18,343 -- YOUR QUESTIONS EARLIER, SO 4233 02:15:18,343 --> 02:15:18,643 THANK YOU. 4234 02:15:18,643 --> 02:15:21,646 -- FOR RESIDENTS ASSISTANCE 4235 02:15:21,646 --> 02:15:29,287 PROGRAM AND DRAFT LEGISLATION 4236 02:15:29,521 --> 02:15:31,122 -- COUNCILMEMBERS. EVELYN CHOW. 4237 02:15:31,122 --> 02:15:31,623 COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. 4238 02:15:31,623 --> 02:15:33,358 -- ALL RIGHT. 4239 02:15:33,358 --> 02:15:34,993 -- AND HI, I'M JENNIFER 4240 02:15:34,993 --> 02:15:37,162 LABRECQUE, CITY COUNCIL CENTRAL 4241 02:15:37,162 --> 02:15:37,395 STAFF. 4242 02:15:37,395 --> 02:15:38,029 -- COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS WOULD 4243 02:15:38,029 --> 02:15:39,297 LIKE TO DO A. BEFORE. SO THEY'RE 4244 02:15:39,297 --> 02:15:40,565 GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE 4245 02:15:40,565 --> 02:15:41,233 BRIEF. WOULD YOU LIKE TO 4246 02:15:41,233 --> 02:15:42,434 INTRODUCE THEM TO DO THE BRIEF? 4247 02:15:42,434 --> 02:15:45,203 -- YEAH. AND I'VE CUT 90% OF MY 4248 02:15:45,203 --> 02:15:46,471 COMMENTS SO I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. 4249 02:15:46,471 --> 02:15:47,906 I WILL BE MORE BRIEF THAN 4250 02:15:47,906 --> 02:15:49,941 BEFORE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER 4251 02:15:49,941 --> 02:15:50,509 KETTLE AND COLLEAGUES, FOR 4252 02:15:50,509 --> 02:15:52,644 HEARING THIS LEGISLATION. TODAY. 4253 02:15:52,644 --> 02:15:54,079 I'M GOING TO JUST REALLY SET 4254 02:15:54,079 --> 02:15:55,180 THE STAGE FOR CENTRAL STAFF TO 4255 02:15:55,180 --> 02:15:56,481 BE ABLE TO WALK US THROUGH THIS 4256 02:15:56,481 --> 02:16:00,051 BY SAYING, TODAY, THERE ARE NO 4257 02:16:00,051 --> 02:16:03,555 DEDICATED CITY TEAMS FOCUSED ON 4258 02:16:03,555 --> 02:16:04,956 HELPING PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THEIR 4259 02:16:04,956 --> 02:16:06,791 VEHICLES. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ZERO 4260 02:16:06,791 --> 02:16:10,595 SAFE LOTS OPEN. WE HAVE ZERO 4261 02:16:10,595 --> 02:16:12,531 SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO 4262 02:16:12,531 --> 02:16:13,098 TRANSITION INTO SHELTER OR 4263 02:16:13,098 --> 02:16:14,566 HOUSING AND STORE THEIR VEHICLE. 4264 02:16:14,566 --> 02:16:16,001 WE'RE OVERLOADING THE SMALL 4265 02:16:16,001 --> 02:16:18,436 AMOUNT OF CONTRACTED OUTREACH 4266 02:16:18,436 --> 02:16:19,404 AND AND ASSISTANCE THAT WE DO 4267 02:16:19,404 --> 02:16:21,540 HAVE, OFTEN LEAVING FEW 4268 02:16:21,540 --> 02:16:23,441 CASEWORKERS. WE DO HAVE TO 4269 02:16:23,441 --> 02:16:25,644 PROVIDE SERVICES FOR HUNDREDS OF 4270 02:16:25,644 --> 02:16:27,979 CLIENTS AT A TIME. WE KNOW THAT 4271 02:16:27,979 --> 02:16:29,781 OUR CITY'S APPROACH TO ARV'S IS 4272 02:16:29,781 --> 02:16:31,850 NOT WORKING. WE ARE FAILING TO 4273 02:16:31,850 --> 02:16:34,185 PROVIDE PATHWAYS TO HOUSING FOR 4274 02:16:34,185 --> 02:16:35,253 PEOPLE IN NEED WHO ARE LIVING IN 4275 02:16:35,253 --> 02:16:36,521 MOTOR HOMES. MEANWHILE, WE ARE 4276 02:16:36,521 --> 02:16:38,890 FAILING TO ADDRESS A SMALL 4277 02:16:38,890 --> 02:16:41,993 MINORITY OF RV'S THAT ARE NOT 4278 02:16:41,993 --> 02:16:42,894 ENGAGED, THAT ARE NOT CONTINUING 4279 02:16:42,894 --> 02:16:48,200 TO MOVE EVERY 72 HOURS, THAT ARE 4280 02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:48,934 NOT BEING DECENT NEIGHBORS. AT 4281 02:16:48,934 --> 02:16:50,735 THE END OF THE DAY. AND OVER THE 4282 02:16:50,735 --> 02:16:52,704 PAST YEAR, I'VE WORKED CLOSELY 4283 02:16:52,704 --> 02:16:55,006 WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS AND 4284 02:16:55,006 --> 02:16:55,574 SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO WORK 4285 02:16:55,574 --> 02:16:57,309 DIRECTLY WITH VEHICLE RESIDENCY 4286 02:16:57,309 --> 02:17:00,312 TO CREATE THIS POLICY FOR THE 4287 02:17:00,312 --> 02:17:02,047 SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO WORK IN 4288 02:17:02,047 --> 02:17:02,614 OTHER SPACES OF ADDRESSING 4289 02:17:02,614 --> 02:17:04,616 HOMELESSNESS. WE'VE HAD VERY 4290 02:17:04,616 --> 02:17:05,717 PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS, AND I 4291 02:17:05,717 --> 02:17:07,252 WILL BE SETTING THAT TABLE A 4292 02:17:07,252 --> 02:17:09,521 TABLE IN SEPTEMBER TO ENSURE 4293 02:17:09,521 --> 02:17:11,523 THAT THIS LEGISLATION DOES WITH 4294 02:17:11,523 --> 02:17:13,058 SERVICE PROVIDERS TO ENSURE THAT 4295 02:17:13,058 --> 02:17:16,962 THIS LEGISLATION DOES TWO THINGS 4296 02:17:16,962 --> 02:17:17,596 BETTER ADDRESS VEHICLE RESIDENCY 4297 02:17:17,596 --> 02:17:19,698 AND DO NO HARM, AND DO THE BEST 4298 02:17:19,698 --> 02:17:22,167 TO IMPROVE OUR HOMELESSNESS 4299 02:17:22,167 --> 02:17:24,836 RESPONSE. OVERALL, WE HAVE 4300 02:17:24,836 --> 02:17:26,571 SPECIALIZED SERVICES FOR YOUTH 4301 02:17:26,571 --> 02:17:28,373 WHO ARE HOMELESS, FOR FAMILIES 4302 02:17:28,373 --> 02:17:29,841 THAT ARE HOMELESS, FOR FOLKS 4303 02:17:29,841 --> 02:17:32,077 THAT ARE LIVING ON THE STREET, 4304 02:17:32,077 --> 02:17:36,081 HOMELESS. BUT WE DO NOT HAVE 4305 02:17:36,081 --> 02:17:37,148 SERVICES DEDICATED TO PEOPLE WHO 4306 02:17:37,148 --> 02:17:38,250 LIVE IN THEIR VEHICLES, WHETHER 4307 02:17:38,250 --> 02:17:40,418 IT IS A 15 PASSENGER VAN, A 4308 02:17:40,418 --> 02:17:44,322 SEDAN, OR AN RV. THE REGULATIONS 4309 02:17:44,322 --> 02:17:46,324 TODAY ARE ONLY ON RVS AND FIFTH 4310 02:17:46,324 --> 02:17:50,095 WHEELS, AND THE SERVICES ARE FOR 4311 02:17:50,095 --> 02:17:51,496 ANYONE LIVING IN ANY TYPE OF 4312 02:17:51,496 --> 02:17:54,199 VEHICLE. THERE ARE NO CIVIL 4313 02:17:54,199 --> 02:17:56,167 SILVER SOLUTIONS. NOT NO ONE 4314 02:17:56,167 --> 02:17:58,103 ACTION CAN TACKLE THIS ALONE. 4315 02:17:58,103 --> 02:17:59,304 AND THIS LEGISLATION IS ABOUT 4316 02:17:59,304 --> 02:18:00,338 ENSURING PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN 4317 02:18:00,338 --> 02:18:02,407 THEIR VEHICLES ARE NOT FORGOTTEN 4318 02:18:02,407 --> 02:18:04,509 AND THAT THEY ARE CARED FOR, AND 4319 02:18:04,509 --> 02:18:05,644 THAT THEY HAVE A CLEAR ROAD TO 4320 02:18:05,644 --> 02:18:08,146 HOUSING. THANK YOU. CHAIR. 4321 02:18:08,146 --> 02:18:10,115 -- THANK YOU, MR. CHOW. MR. 4322 02:18:10,115 --> 02:18:11,616 LABRECQUE. 4323 02:18:11,616 --> 02:18:13,485 -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. 4324 02:18:13,485 --> 02:18:15,387 SO THANK YOU. SO STAFF HAS 4325 02:18:15,387 --> 02:18:17,188 WORKED WITH CHAIR. EXCUSE ME 4326 02:18:17,188 --> 02:18:19,724 WITH COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS TO 4327 02:18:19,724 --> 02:18:20,925 HELP DEVELOP HIS PROPOSAL. AND 4328 02:18:20,925 --> 02:18:22,527 OF COURSE, WE'RE AVAILABLE TO 4329 02:18:22,527 --> 02:18:23,561 SUPPORT YOU ALL. AND ANY 4330 02:18:23,561 --> 02:18:26,164 QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AS THIS 4331 02:18:26,164 --> 02:18:26,798 MOVES FORWARD. THE LEGISLATION 4332 02:18:26,798 --> 02:18:27,966 IN DRAFT FORM IS ATTACHED TO THE 4333 02:18:27,966 --> 02:18:30,335 AGENDA, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A 4334 02:18:30,335 --> 02:18:31,169 VERY SHORT PRESENTATION TO TRY 4335 02:18:31,169 --> 02:18:35,674 TO GO THROUGH IT AT A HIGH 4336 02:18:35,674 --> 02:18:37,375 LEVEL. THERE ARE SIX PIECES OF 4337 02:18:37,375 --> 02:18:38,576 LEGISLATION THAT ARE PART OF 4338 02:18:38,576 --> 02:18:40,679 THIS PACKAGE. I'LL GO OVER THOSE 4339 02:18:40,679 --> 02:18:43,148 IN IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. THE 4340 02:18:43,148 --> 02:18:45,050 FIRST ITEM IS A RESOLUTION THAT 4341 02:18:45,050 --> 02:18:49,154 IS INTENDED TO TALK ABOUT HOW 4342 02:18:49,154 --> 02:18:49,754 THESE LEGISLATIVE ELEMENTS GO 4343 02:18:49,754 --> 02:18:53,091 TOGETHER. IT REALLY TALKS ABOUT 4344 02:18:53,091 --> 02:18:55,260 COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS PATHWAY OF 4345 02:18:55,260 --> 02:18:58,163 OUT OF VEHICLE RESIDENCY AS THE 4346 02:18:58,163 --> 02:19:00,332 INTENTION BEHIND ALL THIS 4347 02:19:00,332 --> 02:19:02,701 PACKAGE. IT INCLUDES THE RV 4348 02:19:02,701 --> 02:19:04,636 PERMIT PROGRAM. EXCUSE ME, THE 4349 02:19:04,636 --> 02:19:05,937 REST VEHICLE RESIDENT PERMIT 4350 02:19:05,937 --> 02:19:07,872 PROGRAM, AS WELL AS 4351 02:19:07,872 --> 02:19:09,741 APPROPRIATIONS TO SUPPORT 4352 02:19:09,741 --> 02:19:10,542 IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PROGRAM. 4353 02:19:10,542 --> 02:19:12,711 AND THEN A BUNCH OF CODE 4354 02:19:12,711 --> 02:19:15,613 REVISIONS AND, AND OTHER SORT OF 4355 02:19:15,613 --> 02:19:16,247 MORE MINISTERIAL ADJUSTMENTS TO 4356 02:19:16,247 --> 02:19:19,250 MAKE SOME OF THOSE THINGS 4357 02:19:19,250 --> 02:19:22,220 POSSIBLE. THE VEHICLE RESIDENT 4358 02:19:22,220 --> 02:19:22,954 ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS SORT OF 4359 02:19:22,954 --> 02:19:27,125 THE MAIN PIECE OF THIS PACKAGE. 4360 02:19:27,125 --> 02:19:27,759 IT FOCUSES SPECIFICALLY ON MOTOR 4361 02:19:27,759 --> 02:19:29,427 HOMES AND TRAVEL TRAILERS. 4362 02:19:29,427 --> 02:19:31,830 CURRENTLY, THOSE TYPES OF 4363 02:19:31,830 --> 02:19:33,431 VEHICLES ARE GOVERNED IN THE 4364 02:19:33,431 --> 02:19:35,400 EXISTING CODE AS LARGE VEHICLES 4365 02:19:35,400 --> 02:19:39,704 OVER 80IN WIDE. SO THIS IS A 4366 02:19:39,704 --> 02:19:41,706 SPECIFIC SORT OF FOCUS ON THESE 4367 02:19:41,706 --> 02:19:44,509 PARTICULAR TYPES OF, OF, OF 4368 02:19:44,509 --> 02:19:46,311 VEHICLES. IT ESTABLISHES GENERAL 4369 02:19:46,311 --> 02:19:48,813 PARKING RESTRICTIONS ON ALL OF 4370 02:19:48,813 --> 02:19:49,447 THESE VEHICLES EFFECTIVE APRIL 4371 02:19:49,447 --> 02:19:53,551 30th OF 2027, AND RESTRICTS 4372 02:19:53,551 --> 02:19:54,486 PARKING FOR THOSE VEHICLES TO 4373 02:19:54,486 --> 02:19:55,954 TWO HOURS MAXIMUM IN ALL AREAS 4374 02:19:55,954 --> 02:19:58,289 OF THE CITY AND PROHIBITS 4375 02:19:58,289 --> 02:19:59,824 PARKING THOSE VEHICLES BETWEEN 4376 02:19:59,824 --> 02:20:02,360 MIDNIGHT AND 6 A.M. IT THEN 4377 02:20:02,360 --> 02:20:04,629 CREATES A SEPARATE VEHICLE 4378 02:20:04,629 --> 02:20:06,564 RESIDENCE PERMIT FOR MOTOR HOMES 4379 02:20:06,564 --> 02:20:09,067 AND TRAVEL TRAILERS THAT ALLOWS 4380 02:20:09,067 --> 02:20:11,236 BASICALLY THE USE OF GENERAL 4381 02:20:11,236 --> 02:20:13,571 PARKING RESTRICTIONS. THE 72 4382 02:20:13,571 --> 02:20:17,575 HOUR RESTRICTION ON PARKING AND 4383 02:20:17,575 --> 02:20:18,143 ALLOWS PARKING OVERNIGHT IN 4384 02:20:18,143 --> 02:20:20,512 INDUSTRIAL ZONES WITH SPECIFIC 4385 02:20:20,512 --> 02:20:21,913 GEOGRAPHIC SERVICE AREAS THAT 4386 02:20:21,913 --> 02:20:25,250 ARE ESTABLISHED BY THE PERMIT. 4387 02:20:25,250 --> 02:20:28,119 TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM, THE 4388 02:20:28,119 --> 02:20:29,354 LEGISLATION CALLS FOR SDOT TO 4389 02:20:29,354 --> 02:20:31,589 DEVELOP A DIRECTOR'S RULE IN 4390 02:20:31,589 --> 02:20:33,057 CONSULTATION WITH THE HUMAN 4391 02:20:33,057 --> 02:20:33,625 SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THE 4392 02:20:33,625 --> 02:20:35,493 SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO 4393 02:20:35,493 --> 02:20:37,295 ESTABLISH THE STANDARDS AND 4394 02:20:37,295 --> 02:20:37,896 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR 4395 02:20:37,896 --> 02:20:39,297 THIS PROGRAM. THE LEGISLATION 4396 02:20:39,297 --> 02:20:41,366 DOES INCLUDE THE CRITERIA THAT 4397 02:20:41,366 --> 02:20:44,369 THE DIRECTOR'S RULE HAS TO 4398 02:20:44,369 --> 02:20:45,703 ADDRESS. THIS INCLUDES PERMIT 4399 02:20:45,703 --> 02:20:47,372 ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA. SO THE 4400 02:20:47,372 --> 02:20:51,042 FOCUS IS ON HSD WORK TO 4401 02:20:51,042 --> 02:20:52,110 ESTABLISH A ONE TIME CENSUS OF 4402 02:20:52,110 --> 02:20:52,710 INDIVIDUALS AND VEHICLES THAT 4403 02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:54,412 WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. THIS IS 4404 02:20:54,412 --> 02:20:57,482 INTENDED TO BE A ONE TIME ONLY 4405 02:20:57,482 --> 02:20:58,450 ASSESSMENT OF WHO CAN APPLY FOR 4406 02:20:58,450 --> 02:20:59,717 A PROPOSAL, AND THE PROGRAM 4407 02:20:59,717 --> 02:21:02,020 WOULD NOT BE OPEN TO LATE 4408 02:21:02,020 --> 02:21:03,321 COMERS. THE PROGRAM WOULD HAVE A 4409 02:21:03,321 --> 02:21:05,990 LIMIT OF ONE PERMIT PER PERSON, 4410 02:21:05,990 --> 02:21:07,859 AND THAT PERSON MUST BE THE 4411 02:21:07,859 --> 02:21:09,561 REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. 4412 02:21:09,561 --> 02:21:11,930 HSD. AND THEIR AFFILIATED 4413 02:21:11,930 --> 02:21:13,498 SERVICE PROVIDERS COULD HELP 4414 02:21:13,498 --> 02:21:14,132 SUPPORT APPLICATIONS ON BEHALF 4415 02:21:14,132 --> 02:21:19,737 OF THESE IDENTIFIED INDIVIDUALS 4416 02:21:19,737 --> 02:21:20,371 THE LEGISLATION INCLUDES PERMIT 4417 02:21:20,371 --> 02:21:21,439 CONDITION CRITERIA, SO THAT 4418 02:21:21,439 --> 02:21:23,575 INCLUDES ESTABLISHING THE 4419 02:21:23,575 --> 02:21:25,443 GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS WHERE THESE 4420 02:21:25,443 --> 02:21:26,811 VEHICLES CAN BE PARKED 4421 02:21:26,811 --> 02:21:28,179 OVERNIGHT, AND THAT IS INTENDED 4422 02:21:28,179 --> 02:21:29,614 TO HELP ASSIST SERVICE PROVIDERS 4423 02:21:29,614 --> 02:21:30,582 STAY IN CONTACT WITH THESE 4424 02:21:30,582 --> 02:21:33,251 INDIVIDUALS. THESE GEOGRAPHIC 4425 02:21:33,251 --> 02:21:35,019 SERVICE AREAS WOULD BE WITHIN 4426 02:21:35,019 --> 02:21:37,989 THE INDUSTRIAL ZONES THE PERMIT 4427 02:21:37,989 --> 02:21:39,290 COULD BE REVOKED, WOULD BE 4428 02:21:39,290 --> 02:21:41,059 REVOKED IF THE PERMIT HOLDER 4429 02:21:41,059 --> 02:21:43,528 TURNS DOWN OFFERS OF SHELTER SIX 4430 02:21:43,528 --> 02:21:47,899 TIMES AND IT REQUIRES HSD TO 4431 02:21:47,899 --> 02:21:50,201 MAINTAIN THE CERTIFICATION LIST 4432 02:21:50,201 --> 02:21:52,337 AND DOCUMENT THOSE CONTACTS. THE 4433 02:21:52,337 --> 02:21:54,038 PERMIT ALSO HAS A NUMBER OF 4434 02:21:54,038 --> 02:21:54,606 OTHER CONDITIONS ABOUT THE 4435 02:21:54,606 --> 02:21:55,273 MAINTENANCE AND CONDITION OF 4436 02:21:55,273 --> 02:21:56,908 VEHICLES, AND HOW THEY INTERACT 4437 02:21:56,908 --> 02:22:01,012 IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE 4438 02:22:01,012 --> 02:22:02,480 ENFORCEMENT CRITERIA IS ALSO TO 4439 02:22:02,480 --> 02:22:03,481 BE ESTABLISHED IN THE 4440 02:22:03,481 --> 02:22:05,583 DIRECTOR'S RULE. IT RELIES ON 4441 02:22:05,583 --> 02:22:08,086 SPD'S PARKING ENFORCEMENT 4442 02:22:08,086 --> 02:22:10,021 DIVISION TO ENFORCE HSD WOULD 4443 02:22:10,021 --> 02:22:11,656 ESTABLISH A NUMBER OF THE 4444 02:22:11,656 --> 02:22:14,893 POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO 4445 02:22:14,893 --> 02:22:16,294 DOCUMENT THE VIOLATIONS, AND 4446 02:22:16,294 --> 02:22:18,196 THOSE VIOLATIONS COULD BE THE 4447 02:22:18,196 --> 02:22:19,297 PERMIT IS ULTIMATELY AN S DOT 4448 02:22:19,297 --> 02:22:20,365 PERMIT FOR BEING IN THE RIGHT OF 4449 02:22:20,365 --> 02:22:22,267 WAY. SO THE APPEALS PROCESS 4450 02:22:22,267 --> 02:22:25,570 WOULD GO THROUGH THE SDOT 4451 02:22:25,570 --> 02:22:27,038 DIRECTOR LEGISLATION WOULD TAKE 4452 02:22:27,038 --> 02:22:29,641 EFFECT ON APRIL 30th, 2027, AND 4453 02:22:29,641 --> 02:22:34,145 THEN IT ALLOWS FOR 90 DAYS OF 4454 02:22:34,145 --> 02:22:34,779 WARNINGS BEFORE FULL ENFORCEMENT 4455 02:22:34,779 --> 02:22:36,548 OF PARKING RESTRICTIONS WOULD 4456 02:22:36,548 --> 02:22:39,918 BEGIN IN JULY 31st. I'LL TURN IT 4457 02:22:39,918 --> 02:22:41,819 TO JEN FOR THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF 4458 02:22:41,819 --> 02:22:44,222 THE PACKAGE. 4459 02:22:44,222 --> 02:22:46,024 -- THANK YOU. SO THE THIRD PIECE 4460 02:22:46,024 --> 02:22:47,458 OF LEGISLATION WOULD BE A LAND 4461 02:22:47,458 --> 02:22:49,894 USE BILL. THIS WOULD UPDATE THE 4462 02:22:49,894 --> 02:22:52,797 DEFINITION OF RECREATIONAL 4463 02:22:52,797 --> 02:22:54,399 VEHICLES WITHIN TITLE 23, THE 4464 02:22:54,399 --> 02:22:58,603 LAND USE SECTION OF THE CODE TO 4465 02:22:58,603 --> 02:23:00,471 NOTE THAT RECREATIONAL VEHICLES 4466 02:23:00,471 --> 02:23:02,307 MAKE A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE MAY 4467 02:23:02,307 --> 02:23:04,175 CONTAIN ITS OWN MOTOR OR MAY BE 4468 02:23:04,175 --> 02:23:06,644 TOWED BEHIND A MOTORIZED 4469 02:23:06,644 --> 02:23:09,781 VEHICLE, AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY 4470 02:23:09,781 --> 02:23:11,049 TO ALIGN WITH THE DEFINITIONS 4471 02:23:11,049 --> 02:23:13,184 THAT ARE USED IN THE VEHICLE 4472 02:23:13,184 --> 02:23:14,352 ASSISTANT PERMIT LEGISLATION 4473 02:23:14,352 --> 02:23:16,788 THAT CAL JUST DISCUSSED. IT 4474 02:23:16,788 --> 02:23:17,422 WOULD UPDATE THE DEFINITION OF 4475 02:23:17,422 --> 02:23:20,091 OUTDOOR STORAGE TO INCLUDE 4476 02:23:20,091 --> 02:23:22,727 STORAGE OF UNOCCUPIED 4477 02:23:22,727 --> 02:23:24,829 RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, AND IT 4478 02:23:24,829 --> 02:23:26,431 WOULD ADJUST THE DEFINITION OF 4479 02:23:26,431 --> 02:23:29,434 FLEXIBLE USE PARKING TO EXCLUDE 4480 02:23:29,434 --> 02:23:33,404 STORAGE OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLES 4481 02:23:33,404 --> 02:23:36,307 NEXT SLIDE. THE FOURTH PIECE OF 4482 02:23:36,307 --> 02:23:39,010 LEGISLATION IS RELATED TO THE 4483 02:23:39,010 --> 02:23:40,345 SIGNATURE AUTHORITY OF THE 4484 02:23:40,345 --> 02:23:44,282 DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND 4485 02:23:44,282 --> 02:23:44,782 ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES 4486 02:23:44,782 --> 02:23:47,452 ORDINANCE 127423, WHICH WAS 4487 02:23:47,452 --> 02:23:48,686 PASSED EARLIER THIS YEAR, 4488 02:23:48,686 --> 02:23:52,824 ALLOWED THE DIRECTOR OF FAS TO 4489 02:23:52,824 --> 02:23:54,659 EXECUTE LEASES FOR UP TO 4490 02:23:54,659 --> 02:23:56,494 65,000FT WITHOUT NEEDING 4491 02:23:56,494 --> 02:23:57,762 COUNCIL APPROVAL. IF THE SITE 4492 02:23:57,762 --> 02:24:02,133 WERE TO BE USED FOR TRANSITIONAL 4493 02:24:02,133 --> 02:24:02,767 ENCAMPMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES SAFE 4494 02:24:02,767 --> 02:24:04,469 LOTS, THIS LEGISLATION WOULD 4495 02:24:04,469 --> 02:24:06,638 FURTHER EXPAND THE FAS 4496 02:24:06,638 --> 02:24:09,140 DIRECTOR'S AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE 4497 02:24:09,140 --> 02:24:10,775 LEASES FOR WHEN THE LOT, OR WHEN 4498 02:24:10,775 --> 02:24:12,710 THE SITE WAS TO BE USED FOR 4499 02:24:12,710 --> 02:24:15,246 OUTDOOR STORAGE FOR VEHICLES OF 4500 02:24:15,246 --> 02:24:17,315 ANY TYPE, OR FOR OVERNIGHT 4501 02:24:17,315 --> 02:24:19,217 RESPITE AREAS FOR DRIVERS, 4502 02:24:19,217 --> 02:24:21,452 INCLUDING TRUCK DRIVERS. IT 4503 02:24:21,452 --> 02:24:23,221 WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE FAS 4504 02:24:23,221 --> 02:24:23,888 DIRECTOR'S AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE 4505 02:24:23,888 --> 02:24:27,191 LEASES FOR SITES BEING USED AS 4506 02:24:27,191 --> 02:24:27,725 TRANSITIONAL ENCAMPMENTS. 4507 02:24:27,725 --> 02:24:29,360 OUTDOOR STORAGE VEHICLES AND 4508 02:24:29,360 --> 02:24:32,597 OVERNIGHT RESPITE AREAS. FROM 4509 02:24:32,597 --> 02:24:40,038 65,000FT UP TO 100,000FT . THE 4510 02:24:40,038 --> 02:24:42,707 FIFTH PIECE OF LEGISLATION WOULD 4511 02:24:42,707 --> 02:24:45,643 UPDATE THE DEFINITION OF A JUNK 4512 02:24:45,643 --> 02:24:47,445 VEHICLE UNDER THE CURRENT SMC, 4513 02:24:47,445 --> 02:24:49,047 TO BE CONSIDERED A JUNK VEHICLE, 4514 02:24:49,047 --> 02:24:51,616 A VEHICLE MUST MEET AT LEAST ONE 4515 02:24:51,616 --> 02:24:54,018 OF THE THREE OF THE FOLLOWING 4516 02:24:54,018 --> 02:24:54,619 REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE LISTED 4517 02:24:54,619 --> 02:24:55,219 BELOW. I'M NOT GOING TO GO 4518 02:24:55,219 --> 02:24:56,387 THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE, BUT I 4519 02:24:56,387 --> 02:24:57,922 DID JUST WANT TO ESTABLISH A 4520 02:24:57,922 --> 02:24:59,057 BASELINE OF. THIS IS WHAT THE 4521 02:24:59,057 --> 02:25:02,226 EXISTING CODE SAYS, AND THAT YOU 4522 02:25:02,226 --> 02:25:02,960 HAVE TO MEET AT LEAST THREE OF 4523 02:25:02,960 --> 02:25:04,896 THESE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR 4524 02:25:04,896 --> 02:25:06,297 VEHICLE TO BE CONSIDERED A JUNK 4525 02:25:06,297 --> 02:25:09,367 VEHICLE. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD 4526 02:25:09,367 --> 02:25:10,768 UPDATE THE TRAFFIC CODE'S 4527 02:25:10,768 --> 02:25:12,703 DEFINITION OF JUNK VEHICLE BY 4528 02:25:12,703 --> 02:25:14,005 CLARIFYING WHAT IS MEANT BY A 4529 02:25:14,005 --> 02:25:17,642 VEHICLE THAT IS EXTENSIVELY 4530 02:25:17,642 --> 02:25:19,043 DAMAGED, CLARIFYING WHAT IS 4531 02:25:19,043 --> 02:25:21,579 MEANT BY A VEHICLE THAT IS 4532 02:25:21,579 --> 02:25:22,447 APPARENTLY INOPERABLE. 4533 02:25:22,447 --> 02:25:23,915 CLARIFYING THAT PART OF NOT 4534 02:25:23,915 --> 02:25:25,683 HAVING A CURRENT VEHICLE LICENSE 4535 02:25:25,683 --> 02:25:28,186 OR REGISTRATION MEANS THAT THERE 4536 02:25:28,186 --> 02:25:29,687 ARE NOT CURRENT VEHICLE LICENSE 4537 02:25:29,687 --> 02:25:31,656 TAGS, AND ADDING TWO NEW 4538 02:25:31,656 --> 02:25:32,190 CRITERIA THAT CAN CAUSE A 4539 02:25:32,190 --> 02:25:34,892 VEHICLE TO BE CONSIDERED A JUNK 4540 02:25:34,892 --> 02:25:37,395 VEHICLE EITHER THAT THE VEHICLE 4541 02:25:37,395 --> 02:25:38,930 IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS NOT 4542 02:25:38,930 --> 02:25:40,498 EASILY READABLE OR VISIBLE, AND 4543 02:25:40,498 --> 02:25:42,300 THAT THE VEHICLE HAS NO LICENSE 4544 02:25:42,300 --> 02:25:46,170 PLATE. I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT 4545 02:25:46,170 --> 02:25:48,005 UNDER THE VEHICLE, RESIDENT 4546 02:25:48,005 --> 02:25:49,974 PERMIT PROGRAM THAT CAL JUST 4547 02:25:49,974 --> 02:25:51,843 DISCUSSED, THE FIRST PIECE OF 4548 02:25:51,843 --> 02:25:54,545 LEGISLATION. IF A VEHICLE WOULD 4549 02:25:54,545 --> 02:25:56,347 MEET THESE CRITERIA AND BE 4550 02:25:56,347 --> 02:25:58,282 CONSIDERED A JUNK VEHICLE BUT 4551 02:25:58,282 --> 02:25:58,950 HAS AN ASSISTANCE PERMIT, IT 4552 02:25:58,950 --> 02:26:00,651 WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO 4553 02:26:00,651 --> 02:26:05,423 IMPOUNDMENT AS OTHER JUNK 4554 02:26:05,423 --> 02:26:07,525 VEHICLES ARE. AND THE FINAL 4555 02:26:07,525 --> 02:26:10,328 PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS AN 4556 02:26:10,328 --> 02:26:11,629 APPROPRIATIONS BILL. THERE IS 4557 02:26:11,629 --> 02:26:14,532 CURRENTLY, IN 2026, $5 MILLION 4558 02:26:14,532 --> 02:26:18,202 AVAILABLE RELATED TO RV OR WORK 4559 02:26:18,202 --> 02:26:20,938 RELATED TO RECREATIONAL VEHICLES 4560 02:26:20,938 --> 02:26:21,806 AND OTHER VEHICLES. NONE OF THAT 4561 02:26:21,806 --> 02:26:25,376 HAS BEEN CONTRACTED OR 4562 02:26:25,376 --> 02:26:26,778 COMMITTED. 3.5 MILLION OF THAT 4563 02:26:26,778 --> 02:26:30,248 IS ONGOING, AND 1.5 MILLION IS 4564 02:26:30,248 --> 02:26:31,816 ONE TIME FUNDING THAT WAS 4565 02:26:31,816 --> 02:26:35,553 CARRIED FORWARD FROM 2025 INTO 4566 02:26:35,553 --> 02:26:37,755 2026. THAT FUNDING CURRENTLY ALL 4567 02:26:37,755 --> 02:26:39,724 LIVES IN THE HUMAN SERVICES 4568 02:26:39,724 --> 02:26:41,192 DEPARTMENT WITHIN THERE, 4569 02:26:41,192 --> 02:26:44,929 ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS, PART OF 4570 02:26:44,929 --> 02:26:45,429 THEIR BUDGET UNDER THE 4571 02:26:45,429 --> 02:26:47,698 APPROPRIATIONS BILL, THE 4572 02:26:47,698 --> 02:26:50,535 APPROPRIATIONS BILL WOULD CREATE 4573 02:26:50,535 --> 02:26:52,537 EIGHT NEW POSITIONS RELATED TO 4574 02:26:52,537 --> 02:26:54,338 IMPLEMENTATION OF THE VEHICLE 4575 02:26:54,338 --> 02:26:55,973 RESIDENT PERMIT PROGRAM. THAT 4576 02:26:55,973 --> 02:26:58,943 INCLUDES ONE PERMIT TECHNICIAN 4577 02:26:58,943 --> 02:27:01,012 IN SDOT AND THEN SEVEN OUTREACH 4578 02:27:01,012 --> 02:27:03,314 STAFF POSITIONS CALLED 4579 02:27:03,314 --> 02:27:04,816 COUNSELORS IN THE HUMAN SERVICES 4580 02:27:04,816 --> 02:27:08,152 DEPARTMENT. IT WOULD ALSO 4581 02:27:08,152 --> 02:27:10,988 TRANSFER $216,000 IN 4582 02:27:10,988 --> 02:27:11,622 APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY FROM THE 4583 02:27:11,622 --> 02:27:13,791 HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO 4584 02:27:13,791 --> 02:27:17,562 SDOT TO PAY FOR IT AND STAFFING 4585 02:27:17,562 --> 02:27:18,196 COSTS RELATED TO IMPLEMENTATION 4586 02:27:18,196 --> 02:27:19,831 OF THE VEHICLE. RESIDENT 4587 02:27:19,831 --> 02:27:23,234 PERMITTING PROGRAM, AND THEN IT 4588 02:27:23,234 --> 02:27:25,303 WOULD BOTH MODIFY AND CREATE A 4589 02:27:25,303 --> 02:27:27,171 NEW PROVISO ON REMAINING FUNDS 4590 02:27:27,171 --> 02:27:29,740 IN HSD. IT WOULD MODIFY AN 4591 02:27:29,740 --> 02:27:32,643 EXISTING PROVISO IN HSD. 4592 02:27:32,643 --> 02:27:34,212 THERE'S CURRENTLY A PROVISO IN 4593 02:27:34,212 --> 02:27:35,580 HSD ON $2 MILLION WORTH OF 4594 02:27:35,580 --> 02:27:41,519 FUNDING RELATED TO WORK FOR OR 4595 02:27:41,519 --> 02:27:43,487 PROGRAM ACTIVITY. PROGRAMMATIC 4596 02:27:43,487 --> 02:27:45,656 ACTIVITY RELATED TO RVS. THIS 4597 02:27:45,656 --> 02:27:48,226 BILL WOULD MODIFY THAT PROVISO 4598 02:27:48,226 --> 02:27:49,660 TO ALLOW THE FUNDING TO BE SPENT 4599 02:27:49,660 --> 02:27:52,530 ON OUTREACH, AND ALSO TO MAKE IT 4600 02:27:52,530 --> 02:27:53,331 CLEAR THAT MONEY COULD BE SPENT 4601 02:27:53,331 --> 02:27:56,133 ON ANY TYPE OF OUTREACH OR 4602 02:27:56,133 --> 02:27:57,235 PROGRAM TO SERVE ANY TYPE OF 4603 02:27:57,235 --> 02:27:59,971 VEHICLE RESIDENT, NOT JUST 4604 02:27:59,971 --> 02:28:02,240 RECREATIONAL VEHICLE RESIDENTS. 4605 02:28:02,240 --> 02:28:03,975 AND IT ALSO IMPOSES A NEW 4606 02:28:03,975 --> 02:28:07,511 PROVISO OF $2 MILLION, WHICH 4607 02:28:07,511 --> 02:28:08,879 RESTRICTS FUNDS FOR SERVICE 4608 02:28:08,879 --> 02:28:09,480 PROVIDERS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN 4609 02:28:09,480 --> 02:28:11,482 OUTREACH TO PERSONS LIVING IN 4610 02:28:11,482 --> 02:28:14,118 VEHICLES, INCLUDING FOR CAPACITY 4611 02:28:14,118 --> 02:28:16,087 BUILDING AND INCREASED STAFFING 4612 02:28:16,087 --> 02:28:18,489 TO REDUCE CASE MANAGEMENT RATIOS 4613 02:28:18,489 --> 02:28:20,691 AND TO HELP VEHICLE RESIDENTS 4614 02:28:20,691 --> 02:28:24,028 MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS RELATED 4615 02:28:24,028 --> 02:28:26,430 TO THEIR VEHICLE. ALL RIGHT. AND 4616 02:28:26,430 --> 02:28:28,065 THEN WE'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT 4617 02:28:28,065 --> 02:28:29,433 NEXT STEPS. SO TODAY IS AUGUST 4618 02:28:29,433 --> 02:28:32,436 11th. WE ARE HERE. WE'RE 4619 02:28:32,436 --> 02:28:34,472 DISCUSSING THE SIX PIECES OF 4620 02:28:34,472 --> 02:28:35,106 LEGISLATION WHICH AGAIN HAVE NOT 4621 02:28:35,106 --> 02:28:37,708 YET BEEN INTRODUCED. THEY ARE ON 4622 02:28:37,708 --> 02:28:39,644 THE AGENDA AS INFORMATIONAL 4623 02:28:39,644 --> 02:28:42,613 ITEMS. ONLY. THE CURRENT PLAN IS 4624 02:28:42,613 --> 02:28:44,282 TO INTRODUCE ALL SIX PIECES OF 4625 02:28:44,282 --> 02:28:46,350 LEGISLATION, OR TO HAVE THEM ON 4626 02:28:46,350 --> 02:28:48,686 THE AUGUST 18th INTRODUCTION AND 4627 02:28:48,686 --> 02:28:49,820 REFERRAL CALENDAR, AND THEN TO 4628 02:28:49,820 --> 02:28:52,223 HAVE A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE 4629 02:28:52,223 --> 02:28:54,325 VOTE AT THE SEPTEMBER 22nd 4630 02:28:54,325 --> 02:28:54,925 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. THAT 4631 02:28:54,925 --> 02:28:58,963 WILL ALSO BE A PUBLIC HEARING AS 4632 02:28:58,963 --> 02:28:59,797 REQUIRED FOR SEPA PURPOSES. AND 4633 02:28:59,797 --> 02:29:00,998 I WILL STOP THERE. 4634 02:29:00,998 --> 02:29:01,632 -- AND COUNCILMEMBER, YOU KNOW, 4635 02:29:01,632 --> 02:29:02,566 WE'VE KEPT THIS AT A VERY HIGH 4636 02:29:02,566 --> 02:29:03,367 LEVEL. AND, OF COURSE, A NUMBER 4637 02:29:03,367 --> 02:29:05,536 OF CENTRAL STAFF HAVE WORKED ON 4638 02:29:05,536 --> 02:29:06,637 THIS, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK 4639 02:29:06,637 --> 02:29:07,505 WITH YOU OR YOUR OFFICES IF YOU 4640 02:29:07,505 --> 02:29:09,307 HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 4641 02:29:09,307 --> 02:29:12,643 -- I'M SURE THERE WERE THIS. 4642 02:29:12,643 --> 02:29:14,312 THANK YOU, MR. CHOW. MISS 4643 02:29:14,312 --> 02:29:16,247 LABRECQUE, IT'S IT'S REALLY 4644 02:29:16,247 --> 02:29:19,116 INTERESTING, REALLY 4645 02:29:19,116 --> 02:29:20,051 COMPREHENSIVE. AND I WILL SAY 4646 02:29:20,051 --> 02:29:21,052 TWO THINGS. ONE IS FROM THE 4647 02:29:21,052 --> 02:29:22,920 PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE IS 4648 02:29:22,920 --> 02:29:24,155 PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY KNOWS ONCE 4649 02:29:24,155 --> 02:29:25,723 YOU HAVE FIVE RVS TOGETHER, 4650 02:29:25,723 --> 02:29:26,590 ONE'S GOING TO START DEALING 4651 02:29:26,590 --> 02:29:27,858 DRUGS. ONCE YOU HAVE A DRUG 4652 02:29:27,858 --> 02:29:29,026 MARKET, YOU HAVE STOLEN GOODS 4653 02:29:29,026 --> 02:29:31,095 MARKET. THERE'S A CLEAR PUBLIC 4654 02:29:31,095 --> 02:29:31,729 SAFETY NEXUS. THE OTHER THING I 4655 02:29:31,729 --> 02:29:34,465 WANT TO SAY IS THAT THIS IS AN 4656 02:29:34,465 --> 02:29:35,166 INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK. AND I 4657 02:29:35,166 --> 02:29:37,568 JUST THINK FORMER COUNCILMEMBER 4658 02:29:37,568 --> 02:29:39,470 SALLY BAGSHAW WOULD BE EXTREMELY 4659 02:29:39,470 --> 02:29:41,505 PROUD OF COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS 4660 02:29:41,505 --> 02:29:41,839 -- [LAUGHTER] 4661 02:29:41,839 --> 02:29:47,611 -- RIGHT NOW AND SO WITH THAT, 4662 02:29:47,611 --> 02:29:50,081 REALLY BRIEFLY AGAIN, WE'RE 4663 02:29:50,081 --> 02:29:50,848 OVER TIME AND THANK YOU. BUT. 4664 02:29:50,848 --> 02:29:52,483 -- ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT NOW? 4665 02:29:52,483 --> 02:29:53,150 -- VICE CHAIR. 4666 02:29:53,150 --> 02:29:55,252 -- THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 4667 02:29:55,252 --> 02:29:57,822 AND I WANT TO START OFF BY 4668 02:29:57,822 --> 02:30:00,358 THANKING COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS 4669 02:30:00,358 --> 02:30:01,792 FOR OFFERING THIS BRINGING THIS 4670 02:30:01,792 --> 02:30:02,293 FORWARD. I MENTIONED IT 4671 02:30:02,293 --> 02:30:03,394 YESTERDAY. I'LL MENTION IT 4672 02:30:03,394 --> 02:30:04,595 AGAIN TODAY HERE IN ANOTHER 4673 02:30:04,595 --> 02:30:05,896 FORUM. APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR 4674 02:30:05,896 --> 02:30:06,864 LEADERSHIP FOR, FOR BRINGING 4675 02:30:06,864 --> 02:30:08,265 THIS FORWARD. I THINK AT A HIGH 4676 02:30:08,265 --> 02:30:11,936 LEVEL, I'M STILL UNPACKING IT, 4677 02:30:11,936 --> 02:30:12,603 BUT BUT IT'S VERY THOUGHTFUL, 4678 02:30:12,603 --> 02:30:15,072 VERY COMPREHENSIVE. BUT BUT I 4679 02:30:15,072 --> 02:30:16,073 APPRECIATE THE WORK AND 4680 02:30:16,073 --> 02:30:17,975 LEADERSHIP THAT WENT INTO THIS. 4681 02:30:17,975 --> 02:30:21,812 AND, AND SO A COUPLE OF 4682 02:30:21,812 --> 02:30:22,380 QUESTIONS HERE FOR CENTRAL 4683 02:30:22,380 --> 02:30:25,416 STAFF. THANK YOU, MR. CHOW. MR. 4684 02:30:25,416 --> 02:30:27,952 BRECK, FIRST QUESTION IS AROUND 4685 02:30:27,952 --> 02:30:30,788 GEOGRAPHIC EQUITY AND 4686 02:30:30,788 --> 02:30:31,422 CONCENTRATION RISK POTENTIAL. SO 4687 02:30:31,422 --> 02:30:33,124 BECAUSE THE PROPOSED PERMIT 4688 02:30:33,124 --> 02:30:35,259 STRUCTURE APPEARS TO LIMIT 4689 02:30:35,259 --> 02:30:36,694 OVERNIGHT PARKING TO INDUSTRIAL 4690 02:30:36,694 --> 02:30:39,864 ZONES, HAS CENTRAL STAFF ANALYZE 4691 02:30:39,864 --> 02:30:42,833 HOW INDUSTRIAL ZONED LAND, 4692 02:30:42,833 --> 02:30:44,902 EXISTING RV CONCENTRATIONS AND 4693 02:30:44,902 --> 02:30:45,536 POTENTIAL PERMIT LOCATIONS ARE 4694 02:30:45,536 --> 02:30:47,238 DISTRIBUTED ACROSS COUNCIL 4695 02:30:47,238 --> 02:30:48,439 DISTRICTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. TWO 4696 02:30:48,439 --> 02:30:50,574 PART QUESTION. THE SECOND PART 4697 02:30:50,574 --> 02:30:53,844 IS COULD IMPLEMENTATION 4698 02:30:53,844 --> 02:30:54,412 UNINTENTIONALLY CONCENTRATE 4699 02:30:54,412 --> 02:30:55,046 PERMITTED RVS IN A RELATIVELY 4700 02:30:55,046 --> 02:30:57,848 SMALL NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES? AND 4701 02:30:57,848 --> 02:30:59,784 WHAT SPECIFIC MECHANISMS COULD 4702 02:30:59,784 --> 02:31:00,284 COUNCIL USE TO PREVENT 4703 02:31:00,284 --> 02:31:02,720 DISPROPORTIONATE GEOGRAPHIC 4704 02:31:02,720 --> 02:31:04,522 IMPACTS, WHILE IDEALLY STILL 4705 02:31:04,522 --> 02:31:05,689 PRESERVING THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE 4706 02:31:05,689 --> 02:31:07,858 FRAMEWORK OF THE OF THE PACKAGE? 4707 02:31:07,858 --> 02:31:09,160 -- WELL, COUNCILMEMBER, WE HAVE 4708 02:31:09,160 --> 02:31:10,761 NOT DONE THAT ANALYSIS, BUT I 4709 02:31:10,761 --> 02:31:12,930 WOULD SAY THAT A COUPLE THINGS 4710 02:31:12,930 --> 02:31:16,700 THAT TOUCH ON THAT. THE EXISTING 4711 02:31:16,700 --> 02:31:18,002 VEHICLE RESTRICTIONS ON OVERSIZE 4712 02:31:18,002 --> 02:31:20,204 VEHICLES IS CURRENTLY IN 4713 02:31:20,204 --> 02:31:21,772 INDUSTRIAL LAND. SO THAT IS THE 4714 02:31:21,772 --> 02:31:24,008 CURRENT REQUIREMENT FOR THESE 4715 02:31:24,008 --> 02:31:24,875 VEHICLES, REGARDLESS OF THE 4716 02:31:24,875 --> 02:31:25,509 ENFORCEMENT THAT YOU CURRENTLY 4717 02:31:25,509 --> 02:31:28,479 SEE OUT ON THE STREETS. THAT IS 4718 02:31:28,479 --> 02:31:30,981 WHERE OVERSIZE VEHICLES WITH 4719 02:31:30,981 --> 02:31:31,949 HIGHER THAN 8080IN OF WIDTH ARE 4720 02:31:31,949 --> 02:31:34,084 ONLY ALLOWED TO PARK OVERNIGHT. 4721 02:31:34,084 --> 02:31:35,853 THE INDUSTRIAL LANDS ARE FOCUSED 4722 02:31:35,853 --> 02:31:39,657 IN A NUMBER OF DISTRICTS, SO WE 4723 02:31:39,657 --> 02:31:40,991 HAVE THE BALLARD INTERBAY 4724 02:31:40,991 --> 02:31:42,726 DISTRICT, WE HAVE THE DUWAMISH 4725 02:31:42,726 --> 02:31:44,728 WE HAVE. SO THERE IS A 4726 02:31:44,728 --> 02:31:47,865 GEOGRAPHIC ELEMENT TO THIS, BUT 4727 02:31:47,865 --> 02:31:49,266 WE HAVE NOT DONE THE ANALYSIS 4728 02:31:49,266 --> 02:31:50,868 BEYOND TO IDENTIFY WHO IS THERE 4729 02:31:50,868 --> 02:31:53,003 OR OR WHETHER THAT INFORMATION 4730 02:31:53,003 --> 02:31:53,337 IS AVAILABLE. 4731 02:31:53,337 --> 02:31:55,406 -- YEAH. THANK YOU. I WOULD 4732 02:31:55,406 --> 02:31:57,408 APPRECIATE THE ANALYSIS AND 4733 02:31:57,408 --> 02:31:59,844 FOLLOW UP AND CLARITY ON THAT 4734 02:31:59,844 --> 02:32:01,378 QUESTION. AND ALL OF THESE THAT 4735 02:32:01,378 --> 02:32:02,346 I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE 4736 02:32:02,346 --> 02:32:04,014 RECORD HERE. TO THE EXTENT 4737 02:32:04,014 --> 02:32:06,217 THERE'S NOT CLARITY. 4738 02:32:06,217 --> 02:32:07,885 -- THING REAL QUICKLY, WE DON'T 4739 02:32:07,885 --> 02:32:09,887 KNOW THAT THERE IS DATA TO KNOW 4740 02:32:09,887 --> 02:32:10,888 WHERE THESE VEHICLES ARE. THAT 4741 02:32:10,888 --> 02:32:13,357 IS, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE 4742 02:32:13,357 --> 02:32:14,425 THE DATA TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE 4743 02:32:14,425 --> 02:32:14,692 ANALYSIS. 4744 02:32:14,692 --> 02:32:15,860 -- THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND 4745 02:32:15,860 --> 02:32:18,195 YOU'RE NOT SURE. SO WOULD 4746 02:32:18,195 --> 02:32:18,762 APPRECIATE CONFIRMATION AND 4747 02:32:18,762 --> 02:32:20,531 FOLLOW UP AND AND REVERTING 4748 02:32:20,531 --> 02:32:24,201 BACK. THANK YOU. NEXT QUESTION 4749 02:32:24,201 --> 02:32:26,237 PERTAINS TO COVERAGE OF NON 4750 02:32:26,237 --> 02:32:28,706 RIGHT OF WAY CITY PROPERTY. SO 4751 02:32:28,706 --> 02:32:31,408 ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES YESTERDAY 4752 02:32:31,408 --> 02:32:32,042 EXPRESSED CURIOSITY AROUND, YOU 4753 02:32:32,042 --> 02:32:33,944 KNOW THE POTENTIAL COVERAGE OF, 4754 02:32:33,944 --> 02:32:36,514 OF, OF PRIVATE PROPERTY VERSUS 4755 02:32:36,514 --> 02:32:40,084 CITY PROPERTY. I'M CURIOUS MORE 4756 02:32:40,084 --> 02:32:41,352 ABOUT COVERAGE OF NON RIGHT OF 4757 02:32:41,352 --> 02:32:42,753 WAY CITY PROPERTY. SO THE NEW 4758 02:32:42,753 --> 02:32:45,289 TWO HOUR AND OVERNIGHT 4759 02:32:45,289 --> 02:32:47,424 RESTRICTIONS APPEAR WRITTEN 4760 02:32:47,424 --> 02:32:47,958 AROUND VEHICLES PARKED ON 4761 02:32:47,958 --> 02:32:51,295 STREETS AND ALLEYS. HOW WOULD 4762 02:32:51,295 --> 02:32:53,831 THE PROPOSED PACKAGE APPLY TO 4763 02:32:53,831 --> 02:32:55,933 RVS LOCATED ON OR ADJACENT TO 4764 02:32:55,933 --> 02:32:58,469 OTHER PUBLICLY OWNED PROPERTY, 4765 02:32:58,469 --> 02:33:00,971 INCLUDING CITY PARKS, PROPERTY, 4766 02:33:00,971 --> 02:33:03,507 GREENBELTS, UTILITY FACILITIES, 4767 02:33:03,507 --> 02:33:04,642 CITY PARKING OR EQUIPMENT 4768 02:33:04,642 --> 02:33:08,145 STORAGE, PROPERTY AND SIMILAR 4769 02:33:08,145 --> 02:33:09,413 MUNICIPAL ASSETS? ARE THERE ANY 4770 02:33:09,413 --> 02:33:11,682 ARE THERE MATERIAL COVERAGE GAPS 4771 02:33:11,682 --> 02:33:14,418 WHERE AN OPERABLE, OCCUPIED RV 4772 02:33:14,418 --> 02:33:16,086 COULD REMAIN EVEN THOUGH THE 4773 02:33:16,086 --> 02:33:18,589 SAME VEHICLE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO 4774 02:33:18,589 --> 02:33:19,190 THE NEW RESTRICTIONS AND THE 4775 02:33:19,190 --> 02:33:21,592 RIGHT OF WAY? 4776 02:33:21,592 --> 02:33:23,060 -- WELL, THE RIGHT OF WAY IS A 4777 02:33:23,060 --> 02:33:25,429 BROAD CATEGORY OF PROPERTY 4778 02:33:25,429 --> 02:33:26,330 THAT'S LAID OFF AS RIGHT OF 4779 02:33:26,330 --> 02:33:29,133 WAY. SO IF THE THE, THE ONE 4780 02:33:29,133 --> 02:33:30,167 CONDITION THAT I THINK IS AN 4781 02:33:30,167 --> 02:33:31,735 INTERESTING ONE IS OUR PARKS 4782 02:33:31,735 --> 02:33:32,403 BOULEVARDS, WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT 4783 02:33:32,403 --> 02:33:33,737 OF WAY, BUT THEY ARE MANAGED BY 4784 02:33:33,737 --> 02:33:34,438 PARKS, BUT THEY ARE RIGHT OF 4785 02:33:34,438 --> 02:33:39,043 WAY. SO IT IS GOVERNED BY S 4786 02:33:39,043 --> 02:33:40,110 DOT'S JURISDICTION. I THINK THE 4787 02:33:40,110 --> 02:33:41,779 QUESTION IS FOR OTHER CITY OWNED 4788 02:33:41,779 --> 02:33:42,746 PROPERTIES THAN IT WOULD BE THE 4789 02:33:42,746 --> 02:33:44,715 PROPERTY OWNERS. RIGHT. AND 4790 02:33:44,715 --> 02:33:46,150 RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THOSE 4791 02:33:46,150 --> 02:33:47,918 FACILITIES. SO IF IT IS A 4792 02:33:47,918 --> 02:33:50,287 UTILITY SUBSTATION, THE ACTUAL 4793 02:33:50,287 --> 02:33:52,022 PARKING LOT OF, SAY, UTILITY 4794 02:33:52,022 --> 02:33:54,391 SUBSTATION, THAT'S A SECURITY 4795 02:33:54,391 --> 02:33:56,393 AND A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ISSUE 4796 02:33:56,393 --> 02:33:57,695 OF THAT PROPERTY AND NOT PART OF 4797 02:33:57,695 --> 02:33:59,530 THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE RIGHT OF 4798 02:33:59,530 --> 02:34:01,332 WAY EXTENDS TO THE PROPERTY LINE 4799 02:34:01,332 --> 02:34:02,967 OF ADJACENT PARCELS, WHETHER 4800 02:34:02,967 --> 02:34:03,567 THOSE ARE PRIVATELY HELD OR 4801 02:34:03,567 --> 02:34:04,969 PUBLICLY HELD. 4802 02:34:04,969 --> 02:34:07,638 -- AND SO WHAT ABOUT GREEN BELTS 4803 02:34:07,638 --> 02:34:09,673 AND PARKS 4804 02:34:09,673 --> 02:34:12,142 -- WELL, GREEN BELT, IT DEPENDS 4805 02:34:12,142 --> 02:34:13,344 ON WHERE THAT GREEN BELT IS. 4806 02:34:13,344 --> 02:34:15,913 THERE ARE AN UNINCORPORATED 4807 02:34:15,913 --> 02:34:19,650 RIGHT OF WAY. AND HONESTLY, I 4808 02:34:19,650 --> 02:34:23,954 DON'T KNOW THAT I THINK THAT IS 4809 02:34:23,954 --> 02:34:27,591 A SITUATION WHERE IF THE GREEN 4810 02:34:27,591 --> 02:34:29,126 BELT IS IMPROVED ENOUGH THAT YOU 4811 02:34:29,126 --> 02:34:31,428 CAN GET ONE OF THESE VEHICLES 4812 02:34:31,428 --> 02:34:32,830 INTO THESE AREAS, THEN I THINK 4813 02:34:32,830 --> 02:34:36,333 IT WOULD BE I THINK IT WOULD BE 4814 02:34:36,333 --> 02:34:38,002 ENFORCED THE SAME WAY AS PART OF 4815 02:34:38,002 --> 02:34:40,004 THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND IF IT'S A 4816 02:34:40,004 --> 02:34:41,105 PARKS FACILITY, THEN IT WOULD BE 4817 02:34:41,105 --> 02:34:45,376 PARKS JURISDICTION OVER 4818 02:34:45,376 --> 02:34:45,909 -- HOW THEY MANAGE THEIR 4819 02:34:45,909 --> 02:34:46,176 PROPERTY. 4820 02:34:46,176 --> 02:34:48,279 -- OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE 4821 02:34:48,279 --> 02:34:50,147 SOME CONFIRMATIONS. AND YOU 4822 02:34:50,147 --> 02:34:52,049 KNOW, THAT'S DEFINITELY A BIT 4823 02:34:52,049 --> 02:34:54,752 OF CLARITY. YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE 4824 02:34:54,752 --> 02:34:56,220 WILLING TO OFFER ON, ON THAT 4825 02:34:56,220 --> 02:34:58,756 POINT IN PARTICULAR. AND THOSE 4826 02:34:58,756 --> 02:34:59,923 SPECIFIC SCENARIOS. CAN YOU TALK 4827 02:34:59,923 --> 02:35:03,293 MORE ABOUT SENSITIVE LOCATIONS 4828 02:35:03,293 --> 02:35:04,061 AND PRIORITY INTERVENTIONS THE 4829 02:35:04,061 --> 02:35:05,796 PROPOSED FRAMEWORK HERE DOES THE 4830 02:35:05,796 --> 02:35:07,931 LEGISLATIVE DOES THE LEGISLATION 4831 02:35:07,931 --> 02:35:10,834 PROVIDE ANY DIFFERENTIATED 4832 02:35:10,834 --> 02:35:12,903 TREATMENT OR PRIORITY RESPONSE 4833 02:35:12,903 --> 02:35:13,370 FOR RVS LOCATED NEAR 4834 02:35:13,370 --> 02:35:15,139 PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE PUBLIC 4835 02:35:15,139 --> 02:35:17,541 USES, SUCH AS SCHOOLS AND 4836 02:35:17,541 --> 02:35:19,309 PRESCHOOLS, PARKS AND PLAY 4837 02:35:19,309 --> 02:35:20,778 FIELDS, WATERWAYS AND STORM 4838 02:35:20,778 --> 02:35:23,480 DRAINS, EMERGENCY ACCESS ROUTES, 4839 02:35:23,480 --> 02:35:25,182 BICYCLE FACILITIES OR OTHER 4840 02:35:25,182 --> 02:35:27,651 CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 4841 02:35:27,651 --> 02:35:28,285 -- THIS LEGISLATION PROVIDES A 4842 02:35:28,285 --> 02:35:31,088 PERMITTING TOOL AND IT DOES NOT 4843 02:35:31,088 --> 02:35:31,655 SPECIFY ANYTHING ABOUT HOW 4844 02:35:31,655 --> 02:35:34,258 SERVICES ARE PROVIDED BY HSD. 4845 02:35:34,258 --> 02:35:36,460 THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS 4846 02:35:36,460 --> 02:35:36,927 LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE. 4847 02:35:36,927 --> 02:35:41,131 -- GOT IT. THANK YOU. CURIOUS TO 4848 02:35:41,131 --> 02:35:44,101 LEARN MORE ABOUT PREDATORY RV 4849 02:35:44,101 --> 02:35:45,602 RENTALS AND HOW THIS LEGISLATION 4850 02:35:45,602 --> 02:35:48,572 DEALS WITH PREDATORY RV RENTALS, 4851 02:35:48,572 --> 02:35:49,173 PARTICULARLY RV RANCHING? YOU 4852 02:35:49,173 --> 02:35:52,743 KNOW, HAVING HAD MANY HAVING MY 4853 02:35:52,743 --> 02:35:54,778 OFFICE, HAVING HAD MANY 4854 02:35:54,778 --> 02:35:55,345 CONVERSATIONS OVER THE PAST 4855 02:35:55,345 --> 02:35:56,013 COUPLE OF YEARS WITH OUR 4856 02:35:56,013 --> 02:36:01,752 EXECUTIVE EXPERTS AT ACROSS TWO 4857 02:36:01,752 --> 02:36:05,055 ADMINISTRATIONS, SPD UNIFIED 4858 02:36:05,055 --> 02:36:07,224 CARE TEAM, HSD OUTREACH WORKERS, 4859 02:36:07,224 --> 02:36:09,026 YOU KNOW, LEARNED OF A PRACTICE 4860 02:36:09,026 --> 02:36:11,095 BASICALLY CALLED RV RANCHING, 4861 02:36:11,095 --> 02:36:17,167 WHERE, WHERE PEOPLE RENT CERTAIN 4862 02:36:17,167 --> 02:36:20,337 RVS IN DILAPIDATED, IN 4863 02:36:20,337 --> 02:36:20,938 SERVICEABLE CONDITION IN THAT 4864 02:36:20,938 --> 02:36:22,473 WOULDN'T MEET THE SNIFF TEST 4865 02:36:22,473 --> 02:36:26,744 FOR IF IT WAS A, A NON FIXED 4866 02:36:26,744 --> 02:36:30,314 WHEEL PROPERTY RENTING IN TERMS 4867 02:36:30,314 --> 02:36:32,249 OF HABITABILITY STANDARDS AND 4868 02:36:32,249 --> 02:36:33,450 AND RENT THESE OUT TO, YOU KNOW, 4869 02:36:33,450 --> 02:36:35,319 OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION. 4870 02:36:35,319 --> 02:36:36,854 SO JUST CURIOUS, DOES THE 4871 02:36:36,854 --> 02:36:37,888 CURRENT PROPOSED PACKAGE ADDRESS 4872 02:36:37,888 --> 02:36:38,989 SITUATIONS WHERE A SINGLE PERSON 4873 02:36:38,989 --> 02:36:43,994 OR ENTITY OWNS CONTROLS, RENTS, 4874 02:36:43,994 --> 02:36:44,595 OR REPEATEDLY PLACES MULTIPLE 4875 02:36:44,595 --> 02:36:48,866 RVS INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY, 4876 02:36:48,866 --> 02:36:49,500 PARTICULARLY VEHICLES THAT ARE 4877 02:36:49,500 --> 02:36:51,635 EXTENSIVELY DAMAGED OR OTHERWISE 4878 02:36:51,635 --> 02:36:53,370 BEING USED TO HOUSE VULNERABLE 4879 02:36:53,370 --> 02:36:57,508 RESIDENTS? IF NOT, WHAT EXISTING 4880 02:36:57,508 --> 02:36:58,041 AUTHORITIES APPLY TODAY. 4881 02:36:58,041 --> 02:36:59,376 -- THIS LEGISLATION DOES NOT 4882 02:36:59,376 --> 02:37:00,144 DIRECTLY ADDRESS THAT, BUT IT 4883 02:37:00,144 --> 02:37:03,447 HAS TWO PIECES THAT ARE RELATED. 4884 02:37:03,447 --> 02:37:06,884 ONE IS THAT THE PERMIT IS ONLY 4885 02:37:06,884 --> 02:37:08,352 ELIGIBLE FOR A INDIVIDUALS ONLY 4886 02:37:08,352 --> 02:37:10,721 ELIGIBLE FOR ONE PERMIT, AND 4887 02:37:10,721 --> 02:37:11,889 MUST BE THE REGISTERED OWNER OF 4888 02:37:11,889 --> 02:37:13,824 THE VEHICLE. SO THAT IS ONE 4889 02:37:13,824 --> 02:37:15,726 ELEMENT FOR WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO 4890 02:37:15,726 --> 02:37:17,561 APPLY FOR THESE PERMITS. OTHER 4891 02:37:17,561 --> 02:37:18,796 THAN THAT, THESE ARE VEHICLES 4892 02:37:18,796 --> 02:37:19,496 THAT WOULD BE IN THE RIGHT OF 4893 02:37:19,496 --> 02:37:20,931 WAY AND BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME 4894 02:37:20,931 --> 02:37:22,332 RULES AND REQUIREMENTS AS 4895 02:37:22,332 --> 02:37:25,235 UNPERMITTED. THEY WOULD BE 4896 02:37:25,235 --> 02:37:25,803 SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL TOWING 4897 02:37:25,803 --> 02:37:27,171 WITHOUT NOTICE. 4898 02:37:27,171 --> 02:37:28,405 -- THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION, 4899 02:37:28,405 --> 02:37:29,940 CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR INDULGING 4900 02:37:29,940 --> 02:37:32,109 ME. I DO NEED TO GET THIS IN THE 4901 02:37:32,109 --> 02:37:37,147 RECORD. SO FINAL QUESTION 4902 02:37:37,147 --> 02:37:37,981 PERTAINS TO VEHICLE DEFINITIONS 4903 02:37:37,981 --> 02:37:39,049 AND POTENTIAL UNINTENDED 4904 02:37:39,049 --> 02:37:43,587 EXEMPTIONS THAT MAY BE READ IN 4905 02:37:43,587 --> 02:37:45,489 STRONGLY INFERRED. HOW COMPLETE 4906 02:37:45,489 --> 02:37:47,458 IS THE PROPOSED DEFINITION OF 4907 02:37:47,458 --> 02:37:49,660 VEHICLES SUBJECT TO THE TO THE 4908 02:37:49,660 --> 02:37:52,162 NEW FRAMEWORK? SPECIFICALLY, 4909 02:37:52,162 --> 02:37:55,132 WHAT CAN. WOULD CONVERTED 4910 02:37:55,132 --> 02:37:57,367 BUSSES, CONVERTED BOX TRUCKS, 4911 02:37:57,367 --> 02:37:58,735 CONVERTED TRUCK CAMPERS, FIFTH 4912 02:37:58,735 --> 02:38:01,205 WHEELS. MODIFIED VANS, DETACHED 4913 02:38:01,205 --> 02:38:03,273 TRAILERS OR OTHER OVERSIZE LIVED 4914 02:38:03,273 --> 02:38:03,874 IN VEHICLES NECESSARILY FALL 4915 02:38:03,874 --> 02:38:05,642 WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF 4916 02:38:05,642 --> 02:38:07,578 MOTORHOME OR TRAVEL TRAILER AND 4917 02:38:07,578 --> 02:38:09,713 COULD SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR 4918 02:38:09,713 --> 02:38:11,081 VEHICLES THEREFORE RECEIVE 4919 02:38:11,081 --> 02:38:11,615 DIFFERENT TREATMENT BASED 4920 02:38:11,615 --> 02:38:15,486 PRIMARILY ON VEHICLE 4921 02:38:15,486 --> 02:38:15,853 CONFIGURATION. 4922 02:38:15,853 --> 02:38:18,121 -- THIS LEGISLATION APPLIES TO 4923 02:38:18,121 --> 02:38:20,791 MOTOR VEHICLE MOTOR HOMES THAT 4924 02:38:20,791 --> 02:38:23,927 ARE 80IN WIDE OR MORE, SO IF IT 4925 02:38:23,927 --> 02:38:25,095 DOES NOT REACH THAT, IF IT IS 4926 02:38:25,095 --> 02:38:25,762 SMALLER THAN THAT, THEN IT WOULD 4927 02:38:25,762 --> 02:38:27,664 NOT BE COVERED BY THIS 4928 02:38:27,664 --> 02:38:29,066 REGULATION. IT COVERS TRAVEL 4929 02:38:29,066 --> 02:38:30,467 TRAILERS, SO YOUR DETACHED 4930 02:38:30,467 --> 02:38:31,702 TRAILER EXAMPLE, IF IT IS CUSTOM 4931 02:38:31,702 --> 02:38:33,036 BUILT FOR HABITATION FOR 4932 02:38:33,036 --> 02:38:34,404 DWELLING, THEN IT WOULD BE 4933 02:38:34,404 --> 02:38:37,174 COVERED, BUT OTHER CONVERSIONS 4934 02:38:37,174 --> 02:38:42,579 WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED. SO 4935 02:38:42,579 --> 02:38:43,213 SOMETHING LIKE A TRUCK BACK TOP 4936 02:38:43,213 --> 02:38:44,848 WOULD NOT BE COVERED BY THIS 4937 02:38:44,848 --> 02:38:45,182 LEGISLATION. 4938 02:38:45,182 --> 02:38:50,387 -- THANK YOU. CURIOUS TO TO 4939 02:38:50,387 --> 02:38:51,788 FURTHER EXPLORE THAT. SO WE 4940 02:38:51,788 --> 02:38:54,191 DON'T, AS PART OF THIS 4941 02:38:54,191 --> 02:38:56,760 FRAMEWORK THAT WE BE 4942 02:38:56,760 --> 02:38:58,795 ESTABLISHING, CREATE A A NEW 4943 02:38:58,795 --> 02:39:01,999 MARKET FOR CONVERTED VEHICLES 4944 02:39:01,999 --> 02:39:05,869 THAT TO SPECIFICALLY CIRCUMVENT 4945 02:39:05,869 --> 02:39:06,403 THE STANDARDS HERE. BUT I 4946 02:39:06,403 --> 02:39:07,971 APPRECIATE THE INITIAL CLARITY 4947 02:39:07,971 --> 02:39:10,207 WOULD WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE A 4948 02:39:10,207 --> 02:39:11,842 FURTHER CLARITY ON, ON, ON THESE 4949 02:39:11,842 --> 02:39:13,410 QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. 4950 02:39:13,410 --> 02:39:15,279 -- THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. THIS 4951 02:39:15,279 --> 02:39:18,582 TOPIC AREA IS ONE THAT DISTRICTS 4952 02:39:18,582 --> 02:39:19,449 AS YOU MOVE NORTH SOUTH, SIX, 4953 02:39:19,449 --> 02:39:21,151 SEVEN, ONE ARE GREATLY IMPACTED, 4954 02:39:21,151 --> 02:39:24,421 BUT IT ALSO GOES TO OTHER 4955 02:39:24,421 --> 02:39:26,256 DISTRICTS AS WELL. BUT YES, 4956 02:39:26,256 --> 02:39:28,392 CLEARLY, AND IT'S WELL KNOWN 4957 02:39:28,392 --> 02:39:29,126 THAT WE HAVE RIVERA DUE 4958 02:39:29,126 --> 02:39:30,294 DILIGENCE. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO 4959 02:39:30,294 --> 02:39:31,828 RVS, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE 4960 02:39:31,828 --> 02:39:33,664 INTRODUCED TO SAKA DUE 4961 02:39:33,664 --> 02:39:35,165 DILIGENCE. AND SO WE'LL BE 4962 02:39:35,165 --> 02:39:36,800 WORKING THESE ISSUES AS WE MOVE 4963 02:39:36,800 --> 02:39:39,436 FORWARD UNDER THE LEADERSHIP 4964 02:39:39,436 --> 02:39:40,237 WITH COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. 4965 02:39:40,237 --> 02:39:41,805 THANK YOU SO MUCH, COLLEAGUES. 4966 02:39:41,805 --> 02:39:43,173 THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS. 4967 02:39:43,173 --> 02:39:44,975 I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY MORE. 4968 02:39:44,975 --> 02:39:45,542 WE'VE REACHED THE END OF 4969 02:39:45,542 --> 02:39:46,209 TODAY'S MEETING AGENDA. IF 4970 02:39:46,209 --> 02:39:47,277 THERE'S ANY FURTHER BUSINESS 4971 02:39:47,277 --> 02:39:48,979 COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE BEFORE 4972 02:39:48,979 --> 02:39:52,382 WE ADJOURN. I DON'T THINK SO. 4973 02:39:52,382 --> 02:39:53,584 WE ARE ADJ