>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
IT'S OCTOBER 21, 2019.
THIS IS THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
MEETING.
IT WILL COME TO THE ORDER AT
THE TOP OF THE HOUR.
I WANT TO WELCOME
COUNCILMEMBERS FOR BEING HERE.
I AM CHAIR BAGSHAW.
WE STILL HAVE ABOUT FOUR WEEKS
TO GO, BUT I THINK THINGS ARE
COMING TOGETHER NICELY.
TODAY, THE COMMITTEE IS GOING
TO CONTINUE WITH ITS BUDGET
ISSUE IDENTIFICATION.
THESE ARE DELIBERATIONS WHERE
WE DISCUSS WHAT WE CALL FORM
AS.
I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU
TO THE COUNCIL STAFF.
I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK THIS TAKES
FOR YOU.
I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT, AND I
APPRECIATE THE GOOD WORK YOU'VE
BEEN DOING.
THE LAST THREE DAYS OF LAST
WEEK, WE COVERED A LOT OF
GROUND.
WE HEARD PRESENTATIONS FROM
TRANSPORTATION LAST WEEK OR
LAST FRIDAY.
WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM OUR
OFFICE OF HOUSING, FROM OUR
HUMAN SERVICES, FOR THINGS THAT
WE KNOW HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF
TIME AND INTEREST HERE BUT
WE'RE GOING TO DIVE INTO THE
L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM.
SPECIFICALLY, SOME BUDGETED
ITEMS FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE
IS YOU ALL, AT THE TABLE HAVE
WORKED AT THE MAYOR'S BUDGET
AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR MODIFICATIONS
OR ADDITIONS THAT OUR COUNCIL
WANTS TO MAKE.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN TO GET TO
THE POINT OF HOW WE ARE GOING
TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING EVERYBODY
WANTS, BUT WE WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT IDEAS
ARE COMING FORWARD, AND YOU ARE
HELPING US TO SORT THAT OUT.
COLLEAGUES, JUST AS A REMINDER,
AGAIN, THIS IS AT LEAST THE
14th ANNOUNCEMENT.
TOMORROW AT 5:30, WE ARE GOING
TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
EVERYONE IS INVITED.
WE WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH
FOR THE SPEAKERS.
A GROUP CAN COME UP FOR FIVE
MINUTES.
I PLEDGE TO BE HERE UNTIL THE
LAST PERSON IS LEFT STANDING
AND WANTS TO SPEAK TO US.
I HOPE SOME OR ALL OF YOU CAN
JOIN ME THROUGHOUT THE EVENING.
OUR FIRST PRESENTATION WILL
COVER BUDGET ISSUES AROUND OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR
BEAUTIFUL COURT JUDGE FOR BEING
HERE WITH US, AND AFTER OUR
PRESENTATIONS, I WILL ASK IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
WE'RE GOING TO HIT THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM, LAW ENFORCEMENT
ASSISTANT DIVERSION.
THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORT ON
THIS COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH FULLY SUPPORTING THE
L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM.
I KNOW WE HAVE A LIMITED BUDGET
AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR PRIVATE
PARTNERS, AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER LISA
DUGARD WILL BE JOINING US
TODAY, BUT LISA FROM THE PUBLIC
DEFENDER'S OFFICE, AND DAN
SATTERBERG, OUR KING COUNTY
PROSECUTING ATTORNEY WERE HERE
LAST WEEK AND THE WEEK BEFORE.
WE JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE
SUCCESS IT'S HAD AS PART OF THE
SYSTEMWIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM.
IF WE CAN JUST DIVE IN, WE ARE
GOING TO ASK YOU.
WHY DON'T WE START WITH
INTRODUCTIONS?
WE WILL GO AROUND THE TABLE?
>> ALLISON McLEAN,
COUNCILMEMBER BAGHSAW'S STAFF.
>> GREG DOSS, COUNCIL CEMTRAL
STAFF.
>> EXCELLENT.
WHO'S KICKING US OFF TODAY?
>> I WILL.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
AS MENTIONED, WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE TODAY.
SOME OF THE REASON YOU HAVE ALL
OF US AT THE TABLE IN A
COORDINATED EFFORT IS BECAUSE
OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN
DOING A LONG CRIMINAL SYSTEM
ALIGNMENT.
WE ARE TRYING TO DO THAT IN A
COORDINATED WAY, AND TO BREAK
DOWN SILOS, WHICH IS WHY YOU
HAVE THIS STAFF HERE.
WE WILL BE DISCUSSING TWO
ISSUES TODAY.
ISSUE IDENTIFICATION, THE NON-
SHELTER RELATED PILOTS, RELATED
TO THE HIGH BARRIER INDIVIDUALS
WORK GROUP AS WELL AS THE
L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM.
TO START US OFF, YOU WILL SEE
ON PAGE 1 OF YOUR MEMO AND AS
SHOWN ON THE TABLE UP ON THE
SCREEN, WE HAVE TAKEN A SELECT
NUMBER OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
RELATED ADDITIONS IN THE
MAYOR'S 2020 PROPOSED BUDGET.
MOST OF THESE ARE PROVIDED FOR
CONTEXT, SO YOU CAN SEE THE
BREADTH OF WHAT WE ARE DOING
UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM.
THESE ARE DESCRIBED IN A LITTLE
MORE DETAIL ON PAGES TWO AND
THREE OF YOUR MEMO, BUT I WILL
RUN DOWN THEM VERY QUICKLY.
IN THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE, WE ARE LOOKING AT
$110,000 TO EXPAND PROFILING
DIVERSION CONTRACTS THAT WE
HAVE WITH CHOOSE 180, WHICH
WILL ALLOW THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE TO CONTACT 12 RATHER
THAN SIX OF THE WORKSHOPS THAT
THEY DO.
THE NEXT ITEM IS IN THE HUMAN
SERVICES DEVELOPMENT.
IT HAS RAMPED DOWN FUNDING FOR
THE $60 FEE.
ITS ONE-TIME FUNDS TO SUPPORT
THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DIDN'T
RECEIVE AWARDS THROUGH THE 2020
RFP PROCESS.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ON SITE
NURSES, AND ALSO AN HST ISSUE.
FIVE EMERGENCY SHELTERS AND
PERMANENT HOUSING FACILITIES
WOULD BE PLACED.
THERE WOULD BE A NURSE CALL
LINE.
THIS WOULD DEVELOP AND OPERATE
THE HOMELESS SERVICES AGENCIES.
THERE IS $100,000 TO ENHANCE
HEALTH ONE AT THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT, WHICH ENHANCES THE
INTEGRATED HEALTH SERVICE.
THERE IS $310,000 TO FUND
ADDITIONAL CONTRACTED MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FOR THE
CRISIS RESPONSE UNIT IN THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE NEXT ITEM YOU WILL SEE IS
$2.9 MILLION FOR THE BARRIER
PILOT PROGRAMS.
$2.4 MILLION FOR THE SHELTER IN
THE JAIL WEST WING.
THE REMAINING $133,000 IS
DIVIDED BETWEEN THREE PROPOSED
PILOTS.
A RAPID REENTRY CONNECTOR IN
THE KING COUNTY JAIL, AND A
HIGH BARRY PROBATION PROGRAM
THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL PORTS
COURTS.
IF YOU WILL TURN TO PAGE 4, YOU
WILL SEE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN.
>> THE 2020 PROPOSED BUDGET
ISSUES ARE DEPICTED IN THE
GRAPHIC ON THE SCREEN.
THIS MODEL IS DEVELOPED TO
PROVIDE A CONCEPTUAL
VISUALIZATION INTERFACE BEFORE
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
IT MAPS OUT HOW THE CITY IS
INVESTING ITS RESOURCES IN THE
SYSTEM, AND HAS IT FURTHER
DOWNSTREAM IN THE SYSTEM ITSELF.
IT WAS ALSO THE INDIVIDUAL
WORKGROUP USED IN DELIBERATIONS.
THE LEGAL SYSTEM GETS BROKEN
INTO SIX INTERCEPTS, WHICH
CORRESPONDS TO THE
INTERVENTIONS WHERE INDIVIDUALS
CAN BE PREVENTED FROM
PENETRATING DEEPER INTO THE
SYSTEM OR FROM ENTERING.
OFFICERS CAN ARREST OR DIVERT
THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
>> IF THERE AREN'T ANY
QUESTIONS AT THIS STAGE, WE
WILL MOVE INTO ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION.
>> BEFORE YOU MOVE, I'M TRYING
TO FIND THIS OVERVIEW.
THANK YOU.
IT JUST POPPED UP.
WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE PAPER
PRODUCT, BUT WE DO HAVE IT
HERE.
>> IT'S ON PAGE 4 OF THE MEMO.
>> NOT ON MY PAGE 4.
>> IT'S ONLINE.
>> YOU HAVE TWO HANDOUTS.
YOU HAVE THE AGENDA MEMOS AND
THEN COPIES OF THE SLIDES.
>> OH, GREAT.
FOUR OF 13.
CAN YOU JUST WALK US THROUGH
THIS BRIEFLY?
>> THROUGH THIS DIAGRAM?
>> YEAH.
WE DON'T NEED A DEEP DIVE, BUT
JUST TALK ABOUT CONTINUUM.
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING
FOR.
TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MONEY
BEING SPENT IN A SYSTEMATIC AND
THOUGHTFUL WAY, AND WE HAVE THE
RESULTS IDENTIFIED OF WHAT WE
ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BY
THESE EXPENDITURES.
I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE
BETTER MODELS I'VE SEEN, SO
MAYBE, WE COULD JUST SPEND A
MOMENT TALKING ABOUT IT.
>> INTERCEPTOR EURO IS
BASICALLY THE INTERCEPT WHERE
COMMUNITY BASED PROGRAMMING
WOULD COME INTO PLAY.
THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY PREEMPT AN
INDIVIDUAL FROM COMING TO
INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CRIMINAL
LEGAL SYSTEM.
THAT INCLUDES THE SAFETY RFP
RAMP DOWN FUNDING, THE ON SITE
NURSES, THE NURSE CALL LINE,
AND THE HEALTH ONE AND
INTERCEPT LINE.
AFTER THAT, IT WOULD BE A POINT
OF ARREST.
THAT INCLUDES A SEATTLE CRISIS
TEAM.
AS WELL AS L.E.A.D.
DIVERSION.
INITIAL DETENTION, COURT
HEARINGS THAT ALSO INCLUDE
PREFILING DIVERSION PROGRAMS.
>> EXCUSE ME FOR A SECOND,
WHERE IS OUR CHRIST SOLUTIONS
CONNECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT FOR SEVERAL
MEETINGS NOW?
THIS IS ALLIE FRANKLIN.
I THINK FOR $450,000 LAST YEAR.
IT SHOULD BE IN THE COMMUNITY
SERVICE PIECE.
I'M NOT SEEING IT UNLESS YOU
ARE THINKING OF CRISIS CARE
CONTINUUM AS BEING THAT.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF
THIS.
>> JEFF, OUR VERY HELPFUL
CENTRAL STAFFER.
THERE IS NOT FUNDING FOR THAT
IN THIS CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
THIS FIGURE WE ARE LOOKING AT
IS JUST ADS AS PROPOSED BY THE
MAYOR AND HER 2020 PROPOSED
BUDGET.
ONLY THOSE ITEMS ARE APPEARING
ON THIS FIGURE, THIS DIAGRAM,
CORRECT?
>> YES.
>> OTHER THINGS WE'VE FUNDED
THAT MIGHT OSTENSIBLY BE ABLE
TO BE SHUFFLED AND FIGURED INTO
THIS FIGURE, THAT EXERCISE HAS
NOT BEEN DONE.
>> THIS PRESENTATION IS FOCUSED
VERY NARROWLY ON THE PROPOSED
AD.
>> HAS THERE BEEN OR WILL THERE
BE A MODEL THAT INCLUDES ALL OF
OUR INVESTMENTS?
THE ONES THAT WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH?
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED
FOR A SYSTEMS APPROACH THAT
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THAT
WE'VE GOT THE COMMUNITY
SERVICES, THE UPSTREAM
INVESTMENTS, AND WE TALKED
ABOUT NURSE FAMILY PARTNERSHIP
AS BEING ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO TO
SUPPORT FAMILIES.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE
THAT ALL OF IT IS IN ONE PLACE.
I HAVE A SENSE THAT MY BUDDY
JEFF HAS ALREADY DONE SOME OF
THIS, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF
WE COULD GET THE TEAM TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE A REAL VIEW.
>> THIS IS A BODY OF WORK I'VE
BEEN MEETING IN MY COMMUNITY
WITH A STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE
INTENT THAT THE COUNCIL
SUPPORTED LAST TIME AROUND.
I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET
WITH CARLOS, WHO WAS HIRED
SPECIFICALLY TO HELP THE CITY
COUNCIL LOOK AT ALL OF THESE
BODIES OF WORK TO HELP US GET A
BETTER A MERGER STANDING UP FOR
WE ARE SPENDING OUR DOLLARS AND
WHETHER IT'S BEING EFFECTIVE IN
TERMS OF RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
GOALS, AND ULTIMATELY, REDUCING
THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR WHO ARE
BEING DISPROPORTIONATELY
REPRESENTED IN THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM.
I JUST HAD A REALLY GOOD
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO CARLOS
ABOUT HIS WORKPLAN BETWEEN NOW
AND THE END OF NEXT YEAR,
EFFECTIVELY, TO REALLY TAKE A
LOOK AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT
PHASES OF WORK.
ONE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE AN IDENTIFIED SET OF
PRINCIPLES AND VALUES THAT
EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH, AND
NOT AGREE TO, BUT LIVE WITH.
THE SECOND PART OF THAT WORK
WILL BE TO DO THIS TYPE OF
INTERCEPT EVALUATION, TO
IDENTIFY IN WHICH BUCKETS ALONG
THE SPECTRUM DO OUR CURRENT
INVESTMENTS FALL INTO TO GIVE
US, AS POLICYMAKERS, AND AS THE
ULTIMATE BUDGET AUTHORITY FOR
THE CITY A DEBTOR SENSE OF
WHERE WE ARE INVESTING OUR
DOLLARS, AND WHAT KIND OF
OUTCOMES WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE
FROM THOSE INVESTMENTS.
I THINK IT WILL GIVE US A
REALLY CLEAR AND IMPORTANT
OPPORTUNITY TO MEANINGFULLY
EVALUATE WHETHER WE ARE STAYING
TRUE TO OUR COMMITMENT TO GET
FURTHER UPSTREAM IN THIS CASE
TO THE LEFT OF THE CONTINUUM,
OR IF WE ARE CONTINUING TO
DOUBLE DOWN ON THE BACK END OF
THE CONTINUUM, WHICH IS REALLY,
YOU KNOW, FOCUSED ON
CORRECTIONS AND JAIL.
>> THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
I AM INTERESTED IN INTERCEPT
ZERO.
WHERE THE INVESTMENTS ARE.
WHAT WE CALL UPSTREAM.
I NOEL HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT HAS GIVEN US
SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE
PAST, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE
TO SEE IT LAID OUT, SO WE CAN
SEE WHERE THOSE CONNECTIONS ARE
AND IF COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ
IS GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH ONE
AND TWO NEXT YEAR, WE WILL
BEGIN TO HAVE THE FRAME WE
REALLY NEED.
>> I WANT TO FLAG THAT I'M NOT
SURE WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO
THAT IN THE CONSTRUCT OF THIS
BUDGET SEASON.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO
FLAG FOR YOU, CHAIR BACK SHOT.
THAT IS PHASED WORK TO OCCUR.
THE FIRST PHASE NEEDS TO BE AN
EXERCISE AROUND DEFINING WHAT
THE PRINCIPLES AND VALUES ARE,
THAT THIS CITY IS COMMITTED TO
AS IT RELATES TO OUR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND THEN
BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF
EVALUATING THE CITY'S
INVESTMENTS USING THAT SAME
LANGUAGE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO
FILE OUR INVESTMENTS
ACCORDINGLY FROM INTERCEPT ZERO
TO INTERCEPT FIVE, AND SO I'M
NOT SURE IF YOU ARE SUGGESTING
THAT THERE BE COUNCIL STAFF
ANALYSIS OF INTERCEPT ZERO.
I AM SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE
PREMATURE GIVEN THAT WE HAVEN'T
GONE THROUGH PHASE 1 OF THE
WORK, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE
COLLECTIVELY AGREED UPON
LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS US AN
OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND
EXACTLY HOW WE ARE COLLECTIVELY
DEFINING THINGS THAT SHOULD
APPROPRIATELY BE CONSIDERED
INTERCEPT ZERO VERSUS SOMEWHERE
ELSE ON THIS CONTINUUM.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION.
I THINK COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
HAS DONE QUITE A WORK AROUND
THIS WITH THEORY OF CHANGE.
I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT.
IF WE COULD MAKE SURE WE
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE
INVESTING IN NOW, AND I KNOW
THAT THE HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT, WE'VE ASKED FOR
THIS EVERY SINGLE YEAR, SO
LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN GET, AND
HAVE A LOOK AT THIS AS WE MAKE
DECISIONS.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW
WE ARE DEFINING INTERCEPT ZERO.
IF THIS IS THE APPROACH, AND I
UNDERSTAND IT'S ONGOING, AND
IT'S GOING TO BE PHASE WORK,
AND THERE WILL BE CONTINUED
DEVELOPMENT, PROBABLY OF NOT
ONLY THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS IN
THE BUDGET, BUT HOW WE ARE
DEFINING THE DEFINITIONS, BUT
THE CONCEPT OF INTERCEPT ZERO
SEEMS TO BE THAT I'M JUST
CONCERNED THAT WE ARE
CHARACTERIZING THOSE DOLLARS AS
DOLLARS SPENT.
IT WILL HAVE THE IMPACT OF
REDUCING CRIMINAL JUSTICE
INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS.
I THINK THE RECIPIENT OF THESE
PARTICULAR SERVICES, I DON'T
WANT TO, BY MERIT OF THIS
EXERCISE, BE ASSUMING THAT THE
RECIPIENT OF THESE SERVICES
UNDER INTERCEPT ZERO ARE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE
CRIMINALLY INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS.
I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A
LITTLE BIT MORE, NOT NOW
NECESSARILY, BUT MORE ABOUT HOW
WE ARE DEFINING THE PARTICULAR
CATEGORY.
>> WHY DON'T YOU PLEASE
PROCEED.
THERE IS A LOT HERE FOR US TO
GO THROUGH, AND WE CAN CONTINUE
TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THAT LEADS DIRECTLY INTO THE
CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LAST
FIRST ISSUE, WHICH IS A NON-
BARRIER PILOT PROGRAM.
ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE
CATEGORIZED THOSE AT THE
MOMENT.
THE CASE CONFERENCE IS AN ON
AND DOWN UNDER INTERCEPT ONE.
THE CONNECTOR PILOT IS UNDER
INTERCEPT FOUR, AND THE HIGHER
PROBATION PILOT IS UNDER
INTERCEPT FIVE.
WE HAVE LISTED THE ENHANCED
SHELTER AT THE BOTTOM NOT JUST
AS INTERCEPT SPECIFIC, BUT AS
WHERE IT WOULD LAND IF WE WERE
TO PUT THAT IN THE CHART.
AS YOU WILL SEE ON PAGE 3 OF
THE MEMO, WHAT'S UP ON THE
TABLE, EXCUSE ME ON THE SCREEN
RIGHT NOW, AS I MENTIONED
BEFORE THERE IS $250,000
ALLOCATED FOR CASE CONFERENCE,
$213,000 FOR THE RAPID REENTRY
CONNECTOR, AND $170,000 ON THE
HYPER AIR PROBATION PIESTER
JUST CONDUCTING A PRELIMINARY
ANALYSIS OF HOW THESE PILOTS
WERE DEVELOPED, AND THE ACTUAL
úPROPOSAL FOR PILOTS AT THEIR
CURRENT LEVEL OF DETAIL, THE
ASSESSMENT AT THIS POINT GIVES
RISE TO THE OPTIONS THAT ARE
LISTED ON PAGE 5 OF YOUR MEMO.
THE ACTUAL FUNDING SET ASIDE
AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS MAKES
SENSE.
IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR THAT
THESE ARE THE APPROPRIATE
RECOMMENDATIONS WITH WHICH TO
MOVE FORWARD, AND THAT THESE
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THE ONES
UPON WHICH THE FUNDING SHOULD
BE SPENT.
DEPENDING ON WHAT LEVEL OF
DETAIL YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO GET
INTO, I AM HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT
WHY THAT'S THE CASE.
ESSENTIALLY THREE THINGS.
THE FIRST IS THE PILOTS WERE
DEVELOPED IN A PROCESS
SEPARATED FROM THE ALIGNMENT
WORK THAT COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ MENTIONED.
THERE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN
THE DRIVERS COUNCIL IDENTIFIED
LAST YEAR, AND THE WAYS IN
WHICH THIS PILOT, EXCUSE ME,
THE WAYS IN WHICH THIS WORKING
GROUP CONDUCTED THAT WORK.
SECONDLY, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO
WHAT EXTENT ANY OF THE PILOTS
ALIGN WITH COUNCIL POLICY, AND
INTENT.
ONE, BECAUSE DETAILS ARE STILL
IN PROCESS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE
THE ALIGNMENT SYSTEM IS STILL
WORKING.
LASTLY, IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR
HOW THESE PILOTS ALIGN WITH
REENTRY WORK GROUP
RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT REPORT CAME OUT IN OCTOBER
2018, AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE
WORK THE COUNCIL DID AGAIN
AROUND ALIGNMENT.
THE OPTIONS THAT ARE LAID OUT
HERE ARE OPTION A, WHICH IS TO
CUT OR REPROGRAM SOME OR ALL OF
THE PROPOSED ADS FOR THE PILOTS.
B WOULD BE TO ADD RESTRICTIVE
SPENDING, UNTIL ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
THESE FUNDS ARE CURRENTLY IN
FINANCIAL RESERVES THAT
LEGISLATION WOULD BE NEEDED TO
MOVE THEM OUT, AS WELL.
THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL WHICH
COUNCIL COULD REVIEW THE
DETAILS OF THE PROPOSALS.
OR C, WHICH IS TO ADAPT THE
2020 PROPOSED BUDGET.
THESE ARE NOT IN ANY WAY
EXCLUSIVE OPTIONS, BUT ONCE WE
HAVE IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME
THAT COUNCIL COULD TAKE MOVING
FORWARD.
>> COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
ANALYSIS ON THIS.
I ALSO WANT TO FLAG THAT THERE
IS ANOTHER POTENTIAL OPTION
HERE THAT I'M NOT SURE WE'VE
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT, BUT IT
COULD ALSO BE AN OPTION TO DO
SORT OF A MIX OF A AND KNEE.
IN OTHER WORDS, PER VIZO, OR
RISK SPENDING ON SOME OF THESE
PROPOSALS THAT WE JUST SIMPLY
DON'T HAVE DETAILS ON, AND THEN
CUT OR REPROGRAM OTHER DOLLARS.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES.
>> SO, I CONTINUE TO HAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSAL TO CONTINUE TO DOUBLE
DOWN ON PROBATION, PARTICULARLY
FOR THIS POPULATION.
I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IT'S NOT
THE BEST USE OF OUR DOLLARS,
THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY ADDRESS
THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO
HAVE MANY COMPLEX,
COMORBIDITIES THAT ARE,
UNFORTUNATELY, FINDING
THEMSELVES THAT THE
INTERSECTION WITH THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM.
$170,000 IS THE AMOUNT
PROPOSED.
IT'S A MODEST AMOUNT, BUT I
CONTINUE TO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO
INVEST IN SOMETHING THAT IS
BEING CHARACTERIZED AS NEW, BUT
REALLY IS MORE PROBATION AND
SUPERVISION.
AND WHETHER IT MAKES MORE SENSE
TO UTILIZE THOSE DOLLARS AS
IDENTIFIED REVENUE FOR OTHER
PROGRAMS THAT WE KNOW WORK FOR
THIS PARTICULAR POPULATION THAT
NEEDS ADDITIONAL CASE
MANAGEMENT, THAT NEEDS
ADDITIONAL HANDS-ON SERVICES TO
BE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY REENTER
INTO SOCIETY AND STOP
OFFENDING.
AS IT RELATES TO THE
CONFERENCING AND RAPID REENTRY
PROGRAM, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
THOSE, BUT NOT TO THE LEVEL OF
WANTING TO SUGGEST THAT WE CUT
THAT PROGRAMMING.
EXCUSE ME, NOT CUT THE
PROGRAMMING, BUT CUT THE CONCEPT
AROUND ADVANCING THE
PROGRAMMING.
I DO THINK THOSE WOULD
POTENTIALLY MERIT, AND BENEFIT
FROM HAVING A PER VIZO UNTIL WE
HAVE HEARD ADDITIONAL DETAILS,
AND HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF
HOW THOSE WILL BE CODESIGNED
THAT GIVES US CONFIDENCE INTO
HOW THEY ARE GOING TO DELIVER
ON THE INTENDED POLICY PROGRAMS.
I AM INTERESTED IN EXPLORING
THE COMBINATION OF A AND B TO
FIND THAT BETTER MIX.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE
THING IN RESPONSE TO THAT.
I SPENT SOME TIME WITH JUDGE
SADIDE, JUDGE EISENBERG, AND
WITH TARA, WHO IS STILL HERE,
AND LISA DUGARD, THE LAST
COUPLE OF WEEKS.
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED.
THIS IS SOMETHING I HOPE ALL OF
US WILL TAKE THE CHANCE TO
LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT.
WHAT I'M HEARING FROM JUDGE
SADIDE IS IN NO SENSE THE
PROBATION OF OLD.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHEN WE
CALL YOU UP TO TALK ABOUT THIS,
IT'S REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY AS
SOMETHING OTHER THAN GOING TO
JAIL.
SOMETHING OTHER THAN TRYING TO
CHASE PEOPLE AROUND, BUT RATHER
TO PROVIDE YOU, THE JUDGES,
WITH AN ALTERNATIVE THAT IS A
DIVERSION STRATEGY OTHER THAN
MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE GOING
BACK TO JAIL, OR FOLLOWING THE
SAME OLD HABITS.
I HOPE THAT WHEN WE GET THERE,
WE CAN HEAR AGAIN FROM YOU
ABOUT WHAT IT IS YOU ARE
LOOKING FOR, AND WHAT YOU ARE
NEEDING, AND THAT THIS IS NOT
JUST TO CHASE THE PERSON AROUND
WITH AN ANKLE BRACELET, OR PUT
THEM BACK IN JAIL WHEN THEY
FAILED TO APPEAR.
WHEN WE GET TO THE OPPORTUNITY,
I HOPE YOU WILL HAVE THE CHANCE
TO SPEAK TO THAT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> A JUST WANT TO AND SOME OF
THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE
EARLIER BY COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE WARY OF
ANY TYPE OF PROBATION PROPOSALS
BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD
REPEATEDLY AND DECISIVELY FROM
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE ADVOCATES
THAT PROBATION VERY OFTEN DOES
MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
IT KEEPS PEOPLE IN THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM REGARDLESS OF
WHAT THE ADVOCATES OF PROBATION
ARE SAYING, OFTEN LONGER THAN
NEEDED AND IT DISPROPORTIONALLY
AFFECTS PEOPLE OF COLOR.
I DO HAVE A BUDGET PROPOSAL TO
CUT FUNDING, CUT THE MONEY THAT
IS SPENT FOR PROBATION
ENFORCEMENT FOR RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE PROGRAMS.
I WON'T JUMP TO THAT BECAUSE I
KNOW WE ARE COMING TO THAT
BUDGET ITEM, BUT I WANT TO AT
THAT POINT AND LET YOU KNOW,
CHAIR BAGSHAW, THAT I HAVE TO
LEAVE AT 5:00, SO HOPEFULLY WE
WILL COME TO THAT POINT BY
THEN.
SPOKE OF COURSE, WE HAVE
MULTIPLE THINGS TODAY THAT WE
ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH, AND
WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE PUBLIC
COMMENT, TOO, SO I AM SORRY YOU
HAVE TO LEAVE AT 5:00.
>> JUST REVIEWING THE ACTIONS
WE TOOK IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET
CYCLE, I WOULD LOVE TO GET AN
UPDATE ON OUR EFFORTS TO
DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN TO
IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
THE REENTRY WORK GROUP'S TASK
FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE FROM
2018.
THOSE FOLKS HAVE REACHED OUT TO
ME, ASKING FOR WE ARE AT AND
LAMENTING THESE.
I POINTED TO THE WORK DURING
BUDGET THAT SAYS WE HAVE A
PROCESS THAT ISN'T VERY
SATISFYING TO FOLKS THAT
PARTICIPATED IN THAT WORKGROUP.
OTHER WORKERS WERE REIMAGINING
THE COURT MEETING JUSTICE
COUNCIL, AND WORKING WITH THE
EQUITY TEAM, OR A SIMILAR
WORKING GROUP TO ALIGN CURRENT
AND FUTURE POLICY INVESTMENTS
AND OUTCOMES REGARDING THE
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM.
IN GENERAL, WE IDENTIFIED SORT
OF WHAT OUR APPROACH WAS GOING
TO BE TO MAKE THESE INVESTMENTS.
THE EXECUTIVE HAS MADE SOME
PROPOSALS THAT MIGHT NOT ALIGN
WITH WHAT WE WERE ENVISIONING
THAT WE WOULD DO THROUGH THIS
DEVELOPMENT OF A STRATEGY, BUT
YET IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT WE
HAVE DEVELOPED THE STRATEGY.
IT'S A LITTLE CHICKEN OR THE
EGG THING.
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE.
>> I THINK I HEARD TWO
QUESTIONS, WHICH IS HOW THE
WORK IS GOING, AND THE
PROPOSALS IN RELATION TO THE
WORK.
CARLOS CAN SPEAK TO THE PROJECT
ITSELF.
>> PLEASE, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS I AM
HEARING.
IT GIVES US A FEEL FOR WHAT
PEOPLE ARE THINKING.
IT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR ME WHEN I
START THINKING ABOUT WHAT I DO
AND DON'T SUPPORT.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT
THE ENHANCED SHELTER, $2.4
MILLION IN CAPITAL COST
IMPROVEMENTS TO SPEAK
INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT IT, BUT I
JUST HAVE A QUESTION THAT I
WANT TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE
PROBATION PIECE.
ON THE ENHANCED SHELTER, PEOPLE
THAT ARE CONVICTED OF CRIMES
THAT ARE ALSO EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS, IS THAT A SPECIAL
WEST WING, IF YOU WILL, FOR
PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN CHARGED
AND CONVICTED?
WHAT IS THIS? ANOTHER HOMELESS
SHELTER?
WHAT ARE WE DOING?
>> AT THIS POINT, WE UNDERSTAND
THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL,
ENHANCED SHELTER.
THE LOCATION WOULD BE AS YOU
RECALL RECENTLY OPENED IN THE
WEST WING OF THE KING COUNTY
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY, AN
ENHANCED SHELTER THERE ALREADY.
ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THERE
WOULD BE ADDITIONAL SPACE.
THE REASON THESE FUNDS HAVE
BEEN PLACED IN FINANCE GENERAL
IS BECAUSE AT THIS POINT
THERE'S NOT FURTHER
CLARIFICATION THERE WITH HOW
THIS WOULD UNIQUELY TARGET
THOSE INDIVIDUALS VERSUS WHAT
OUR OTHER ENHANCED SHELTERS
WOULD DO.
>> OKAY.
SO JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S A
HIGHER POSITION IN THE JAIL IS
COINCIDENTAL?
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
GOING THROUGH THE PROSECUTORIAL
PROCESS?
>> IT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS
SOMETHING THAT WOULD TARGET
THESE KIND OF INDIVIDUALS
CLASSIFIED AS HIGH BARRIER
INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE
DETAILS YET ON HOW THAT WOULD
HAPPEN.
>> ON THE PROBATION PIECE, I
AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES ON HOW PROBATION HAS
HISTORICALLY BEEN USED IN THIS
COUNTRY, THE STATE, AND MANY
CITIES AS YOU TALK ABOUT
WEAPONIZE IN A TOOL OF
PROSECUTION TO IMPRESS MANY
COMMUNITIES.
I WOULD DISAGREE THAT OUR
MUNICIPAL COURTS ARE HANDLING
IT IN SUCH A WAY FROM MY
EXPERIENCE.
I HAVE MET WITH JUDGE WILLIE
GREGORY AND FAYE CHESS.
MANY OF THE JUDGES WHO HAPPEN
TO BE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS, PUBLIC
DEFENDERS, WHO UNDERSTAND VERY
FULLY -- I WISH WE COULD CALL
IT SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THEY
ARE TRYING TO BE IN LINE WITH
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE EFFORTS,
AND THE KINDS OF THINGS THE
CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN REALLY
COMMITTED TO.
THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE
MISCOMMUNICATION ON WHAT THEY
ARE TRYING TO DO, AND WHAT WE
ARE FREEZING AS PROBATION.
THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE.
THE BARRIER FOR HIGH BARRIER
PROBATION, AND I GUESS I WILL
ASK TO SHARE THE CENTRAL STAFF,
BUT WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET
FOR WHAT I'M CALLING PROBATION
FOR LACK OF A BETTER
DESCRIPTION.
THIS IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL
160,000, SO THERE IS A PORTION
OF MONEY IN THERE WITH THE
COUNSELORS IN PREVENTION FOR
THIS IS JUST 170 IN ADDITION TO
THAT, CORRECT?
>> YES.
$170,000 IS GENERAL FUNDS.
THE EXISTING IS $120,000 OF
IMPROVEMENT ACCOUNTS.
THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING AND
APPROPRIATED.
>> 120?
>> $120,000.
>> THAT'S WHY SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES WOULD BE SOMEWHAT
CRITICAL OF DUMBING DOWN
PROBATION, SORT OF HOW IT
LOOKS.
RIGHT?
>> WHAT THESE FUNDS DO --
SORRY, GO AHEAD.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> THE ENTIRE PACKAGE FOR
PROBATION WOULD BE THIS
$170,000 PLUS AN EXISTING
$120,000.
I BELIEVE THE INTENT FOR THE
EXISTING FUNDS IS TO GO TOWARDS
AN ADDITIONAL PROBATION
COUNSELOR THAT WOULD HAVE THIS
ENHANCED CASELOAD, AND THE
$170,000 IS SPLIT BETWEEN A
POSITION TO ADD A COURT WORKER
AND OPERATIONAL FUNDS FOR THE
PROGRAM TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> AGAIN, THE MEETINGS HAVE
GONE TO IN TERMS OF RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE EFFORTS AND REENTRY
EFFORTS, I AM HEARING FROM THE
JUDGES ON HOW THEY ARE LOOKING
AND TREATING BOTH THE 170
EDITION, AND THE BASE BUDGET,
IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE.
NOT A VERY PENALIZING PROBATION
SYSTEM, BUT I THINK THERE MAY
BE A MISCOMMUNICATION.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
>> THE DEFINITION OF
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE MAY DIFFER
BETWEEN OR BASED ON HOW
DIFFERENT PARTIES USE IT.
I THINK IT'S BECOMING A MORE
COMMON TERM, AND I THINK IT IS
USED MORE OFTEN NOW FOR THINGS
LIKE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
AS OPPOSED TO THAT BEING A
SEPARATE CATEGORY OF THE WAY IN
WHICH THE COURT HANDLES, OR THE
ENTIRE SYSTEM HANDLES CRIMINAL
JUSTICE, SO IT'S LESS OF A
PUNITIVE APPROACH.
I WOULD AGREE WITH THE
PROBATION CHARACTER.
I WOULD SAY THE DETAILS OF THIS
PARTICULAR PIECE IS IF IT
WASN'T CONNECTED TO PROBATION,
IT WOULD BE SERVICES, SOMEBODY
GOING ALONG WITH THIS PERSON TO
HELP THEM GET MORE SERVICES,
BUT GIVEN THAT IT IS A PROGRAM
RUN BY OUR PROBATION COUNSELOR,
THAT IS ACTUALLY PROBATION
REGARDLESS OF THE COUNSELOR'S
DISCRETION TO GRADUATE
SANCTIONS WERE MOVED TO THE
JUDGE.
ALL OF THAT IS DISCRETIONARY.
THE INTENT ABSOLUTELY MAYBE TO
MAKE THIS VERY HIGHLY
SUPPORTIVE, AND THAT MAY
ACTUALLY BEAR OUT IN SOME
CASES, BUT THERE IS NO WAY OF
GUARANTEEING THIS KIND OF
PROBATION WON'T INCREASE FURTHER
INVOLVEMENT.
>> THAT'S HELPFUL.
IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, RATHER
THAN CUTTING IT, I WOULD RATHER
TRY TO SEE HOW WE CAN COME UP
WITH LANGUAGE TO GUARANTEE THAT
IT'S BEING USED MORE FOR
SUPPORTIVE THAN PUNITIVE
SERVICES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
I THINK STAFF WAS PREPARED TO
ANSWER.
COULD WE GO BACK TO THOSE?
TO WANT ME TO ASK AGAIN?
>> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU
MENTIONED WAS THE STRATEGIC
PLAN TO IMPLEMENT PREVIOUSLY
MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
CITY REGARDING THE CRIMINAL
LEGAL SYSTEM.
I HAVE BEEN TELLING WORKING ON
THAT, BUT WHAT IT WILL LAY OUT
IS GOING THROUGH THE REENTRY
WORK GROUP'S FINAL
RECOMMENDATIONS, AND LOOKING AT
WATER ACTIONS AT THE COUNCIL
CAN UNILATERALLY TAKE TO BEGIN
FURTHERING THOSE?
THE SECOND CATEGORY WOULD BE
WHAT ARE THE ISSUE AREAS THAT
WOULD REQUIRE EITHER FUNDING, A
PRETTY ZO, OR COURT NATION WITH
THE EXECUTIVE, AND THEN THE
THIRD GROUPING IS ESSENTIALLY
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAY
REQUIRE FURTHER STUDY.
>> THAT IS A BODY OF WORK THAT
THE COUNCIL IS DRIVING, CORRECT?
THE OTHER TWO WERE REIMAGINING
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
COORDINATING COUNCIL AND
WORKING WITH THE EQUITY TEAM OR
SIMILAR WORKGROUP TO ALIGN
POLICY INVESTMENTS AND OUTCOMES.
>> THOSE ARE MENTIONED IN THE
PORTION COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ
WAS TENSIONING.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU
WITH A COPY OF PLAN AND GET YOU
ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED
BASICALLY, THAT WORK IS GOING
TO BE ONGOING THROUGH THREE
PHASES.
THE FIRST WAS WORKING WITH
COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS IN
ORDER TO COME UP WITH GUIDING
PRINCIPLES THAT WOULD LEAD UP
TO ALIGNMENT WORK.
IT WOULD ALSO BE WORKING WITH
INSTITUTIONAL STAKEHOLDERS IN
THE COURT AND CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE, TO LOOK AT ESSENTIALLY
WHAT HAD HAPPENED WITH PREVIOUS
ITERATIONS OF THE COORDINATING
COUNCIL TO TRY TO GET A BETTER
SENSE OF WHAT WORKED AND WHAT
DIDN'T, BEGIN PLANNING THROUGH
THAT, AS WELL AS RESEARCH AND
TO OTHER STATES, OTHER
JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE
COORDINATING COUNCILS TO SEE
WHAT BEST PRACTICES ARE TO
RECONSTITUTE IT.
>> AGAIN, MY POINT IS WE
IDENTIFIED THIS WORK AS A
PRIORITY LAST BUDGET CYCLE AS A
SORT OF PREREQUISITE TO
OURSELVES FOR HOW WE WERE GOING
TO MOVE FORWARD ON CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM WORK.
I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT TO HAVE
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE
EXECUTIVE WHEN THIS WORK HASN'T
HAPPENED BECAUSE, FOR ME, AS A
POLICYMAKER, IT MAKES IT REALLY
DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE WHETHER
OR NOT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS
ALIGN WITH THE WORK WE HAD
PLANNED TO DO ALL OF THIS YEAR.
WE NEED THE COOPERATION OF THE
EXECUTIVE ON THOSE PIECES OF
WORK THAT WE IDENTIFIED DURING
THE BUDGET LAST YEAR.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT?
>> I THINK WE ARE HOPING FROM
ALIGNMENT WITH THE EXECUTIVE.
>> BUT WE CAN'T JUST REIMAGINE
THE COORDINATING JUSTICE
COUNCIL OURSELVES.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO
WITH THE EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS?
>> ASSUMING THEY WANT TO
PARTICIPATE IN THAT EFFORT, WE
WOULD CERTAINLY INITIATE THAT,
AND WORK WITH THE EXECUTIVE TO
MOVE FORWARD IN LIFE THAT
DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE, BUT TO
YOUR POINT ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE
TO COMPARE THE PROPOSALS TO A
YET TO BE DEVELOPED PIECE OF
WORK, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS
INSTEAD OF ASSUMING THAT THERE
ARE PRINCIPLES AND VALUES
AGAINST WHICH TO COMPARE THESE
PILOTS, INSTEAD, THE COMPARISON
HAS BEEN TO THE DRIVERS THAT
INITIATED THIS WORK IN LAST
BUDGET CYCLE, SO AS
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ
MENTIONED, CENTERING THE
COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPING THESE
PRINCIPLES AND VALUES.
SOME OF THAT IS CENTERED AROUND
RACIAL EQUITY AND THE
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE MOST
IMPACTED.
WHETHER AND HOW WE SHOULD BE
REALIGNING INVESTMENT FROM INTO
THE SYSTEM TO RISK RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE OPTIONS.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT THESE
PILOTS ARE NOT IN ALIGNMENT
WITH THOSE THINGS.
IT'S JUST THAT LOOKING AT THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PILOTS, AND
THEN THE INITIAL PROPOSAL THE
PILOTS THEMSELVES MAY NOT BE IN
ALIGNMENT.
I CAN GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF
EXAMPLES.
>> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> OKAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE THOUGHT
WAS REALLY IMPORTANT DURING
LAST YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE WAS
THE RACIAL EQUITY PIECE, MAKING
SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS
EXAMINED WITH A RACIAL EQUITY
LENS, AND IS DRIVEN BY RACIAL
EQUITY.
LOOKING AT THE PROGRESS REPORT
FROM THE WORKING GROUP, THERE
IS A SENTIMENT IN THERE ABOUT
MAKING SURE THE SOLUTIONS ARE
UNDERSTAND THROUGH RACE AND
SOCIAL JUSTICE, MAKING SURE
THAT THE PILOTS ARE NOT
PERPETUATING AND FURTHERING
INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM.
THE ISSUE IS NOT SO MUCH
WHETHER THESE PILOTS WILL OR
WILL NOT DO THAT, IT'S THAT
THERE WAS NO RACIAL EQUITY
ANALYSIS DONE.
THERE'S NO OUTCOME OF THE
RACIAL EQUITY TOOLKIT TO SHOW
WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE ON NATIVES
OF COLOR, THE PEOPLE MOST
IMPACTED, AND SO, IT'S JUST
SORT OF GENERAL INCONSISTENCY
WITH ONE OF THE DRIVERS OF THE
WORK.
>> ON THAT POINT, THOSE NUMBERS
OF THE WORK GROUP WHO
PARTICIPATED IN THOSE
DISCUSSIONS AS PART OF THE
WORKGROUP WHO OSTENSIBLY
REPRESENT SOME OF THE MORE
RACIALLY DIVERSE GROUPS HAVE
EITHER COME OUT PUBLICLY SAYING
THEY OPPOSE PORTIONS OF THIS
MAYOR'S PROPOSAL, SPECIFICALLY
THE PROBATION PIECE, OR HAVE
OTHERWISE REFUSED TO SPEAK
PUBLICLY ABOUT THESE
RECOMMENDATIONS.
IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> I THINK THAT'S TRUE NOT SO
MUCH FROM THE PROGRESS REPORT,
BUT IT'S CLEAR THE PILOT
PROGRAMS WERE NOT A MATTER OF
CONSENSUS.
THEY WERE DISCUSSED AMONGST THE
GROUP, BUT NOT EVERYONE AGREED
THESE WERE THE PILOTS THAT
SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
THE PROPOSAL IS FROM THE
EXECUTIVE, NOT NECESSARILY THE
ENTIRE GROUP'S CONSENSUS.
I WOULD JUST NOTE ONE OTHER
THING.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT THAT THESE
PILOTS DO OR DO NOT ALIGN WITH
ANY PRINCIPLES, BUT IN LOOKING
TO SEE WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE
NEW FUNDS ALLOCATED TO THESE
PROPOSALS AS OPPOSED TO
EXISTING FUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE THE
REENTRY CONNECTOR, IN SOME WAYS
IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO
PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE THAT
ARE IN CUSTODY FOR UNDER 72
HOURS, BUT THERE IS NO ANALYSIS
IN THE GROUP AS TO WHY PEOPLE
ARE BEING DETAINED FOR UNDER 72
HOURS, AND SO WHY ARE PEOPLE IN
THERE, AND JUST BEING RELEASED
AGAIN?
SURE, IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE THAT
THOSE SERVICES, EXCUSE ME,
THOSE INDIVIDUALS REQUIRE
REENTRY SERVICES, BUT IF THERE
IS AN ANALYSIS OF HOW TO
DECREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
IN JAIL FOR UNDER 72 HOURS, THE
FUNDS YOU MIGHT SAVE FROM THAT
BOOKING COULD BE REPROGRAMMED
INTO WHAT A REENTRY CONNECTOR
WAS.
JUST SORT OF SEEING HOW THESE
PROPOSALS STAND UP IN
COMPARISON TO THE SORT OF ASIC
PRINCIPLES AND DRIVERS BEHIND
WHICH THIS ALIGNMENT SYSTEM
WORK WAS PROPOSED.
THAT IS SORT OF WHERE THE
COMPARISON IS.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> YOU HAVE BOTH BROUGHT UP
REMARKABLY POIGNANT POINTS
TODAY, AND I APPRECIATE THAT
VERY MUCH.
DO YOU THINK WE ARE GOING TO
NEED TO HAVE MORE TIME JUST ON
THIS ISSUE PUBLICLY?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT, TO
HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING JUST ON
WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED?
WOULD THAT BE USEFUL TO YOU?
>> I KNOW WHERE I STAND ON THIS
ISSUE, SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE I
AM PROBABLY THE RIGHT PERSON TO
ASK THAT QUESTION.
I AM PART OF THE ELECTED
LEADERSHIP GROUP.
MY STAFF HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING
IN THE WORKGROUP, AS WELL, AND
I FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE
INFORMATION.
I NEED TO KNOW THAT I AM NOT
TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THESE
INVESTMENTS, SO FOR ME, IT
REALLY IS ABOUT PARTICULARLY
THE CASE CONFERENCING, THE
REENTRY CONNECTOR, MAKING SURE
THAT WE HAVE A GOOD SENSE AS
OUTLINED, WHAT THE CONCEPTS AND
THE ACTUAL DETAILS OF THIS
PROPOSED PROGRAMMING IN ORDER
TO GIVE US A HIGH LEVEL OF
CONFIDENCE THAT IT REALLY IS
GOING TO BE REACHING DEEPLY
INTO HELPING THE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS IDENTIFIED AS BEING
HIGH BARRIER INDIVIDUALS.
ON THE HIGH BARRIER PROBATION,
I HAVE READ THROUGH THE
LITERATURE.
I HAVE A MEETING SET UP WITH
SOME OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT
JUDGES NEXT WEEK.
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING
ABOUT PROBATION.
I THINK THE QUESTION REALLY
COMES DOWN TO THE POLICE THAT
THERE IS A VERSION OF PROBATION
THAT DOESN'T CAUSE FURTHER
HARM.
I THINK WE HAVE TO AGREE TO
DISAGREE ON THAT.
I'M HEARING FROM YOU AND THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THERE IS A
VERSION THAT ISN'T HARMFUL.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
I THINK ANY TIME WE PUT
PARTICULARLY BLACK AND BROWN
PEOPLE UNDER SUPERVISION, OF
CORRECTIONS, THAT THERE IS
POTENTIAL FOR HARM TO BE CAUSED
TO THEM, TO THEIR FAMILIES, AND
OUR COMMUNITY OVERALL BECAUSE
THE ULTIMATE CONSEQUENCE OF NOT
COMPLYING WITH THOSE
REQUIREMENTS IS JAIL.
THAT'S WHERE YOU WIND UP IF YOU
DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF
YOUR RELEASE UNDER PROBATION.
WE CAN CALL IT ENHANCED
PROBATION, BASIC PROBATION,
SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, BUT AT
THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS
SUPERVISION OF PEOPLE IN OUR
COMMUNITY, WHO ARE EXPECTED TO
UNDER A CARROT STICK APPROACH,
COMPLY WITH TERMS OF RELIEF,
AND IF THEY DO NOT HAVE A WILL
END UP BACK IN JAIL.
I AM CALLING TO QUESTION AS A
POLICYMAKER, I BELIEVE THAT
INVESTING FURTHER IN A
PROBATION MODEL, THAT
ULTIMATELY LEADS TO A RESULT OF
GOING TO JAIL IF YOU DO NOT
COMPLY IS NOT THE WISEST
INVESTMENT FOR US IN THIS SPACE.
I THINK THERE ARE OTHER
PROGRAMS AVAILABLE TO US LIKE
L.E.A.D., VITAL, AND OTHER
TRUE INVESTMENTS IN CASE
MANAGEMENT NOT IN PROBATION
OFFICERS THAT CAN POTENTIALLY
LEAD AND WE HAVE SEEN DO LEAD
TO MORE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES FOR
THIS PARTICULAR POPULATION, SO
I AM NOT PROPOSING THAT WE
COMPLETELY ABOLISH THE
PROBATION DEPARTMENT.
I AM ASKING AND I'M GOING TO
ADVOCATE A REASONABLE APPROACH
OF NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL
DOLLARS.
BASED ON MY BELIEF THAT I THINK
PROBATION AS A TOOL FOR
COMPLIANCE IS AND WILL CONTINUE
TO CAUSE HARM.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE
NOT INCREASING THE HARM.
WHAT I'M HEARING FROM OUR
MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGES IS THEY
ARE LOOKING FOR THOSE TOOLS
THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING TO,
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ THAT
L.E.A.D.
AND VITAL ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO
THEM AFTER SOMEONE COMES BACK
TO COURT AND IS IN FRONT OF
THEM CREATING ANOTHER
SITUATION, OR COMMITTING ANOTHER
GROSS MISDEMEANOR.
IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY
ARE LOOKING FOR TOOLS.
AT LEAST, THIS IS MY
UNDERSTANDING.
THAT DOESN'T PUT THEM BACK IN
JAIL OR AT RISK BUT PROVIDES
SOMETHING ELSE THE JUDGES CAN
USE TO PROVIDE SOME
ALTERNATIVES.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.
WHEN I ASKED IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO HAVE MORE TIME ON THIS TOPIC,
SINCE WE FIND OURSELVES
STRUGGLING WITH OPM ISSUES, I
WOULD LOVE TO FULLY UNDERSTAND
WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, AND FOR
THE JUDGES TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE THEIR INPUT BEFORE I
MAKE A FINAL DECISION.
WE GOT TWO DOWN HERE.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, THEN
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING WE
SHOULD HEAR MORE.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO.
I WOULD NOT OBJECT TO HAVING A
DISCUSSION ON IT IN ANY WAY,
BUT I ALSO, LIKE COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ SAID, MY OFFICE
DOESN'T NEED TO BE CONVINCED
ABOUT WHERE TO GO.
IN FACT, WORKING WITH THE
COMMUNITY GROUPS, THIS IS WHERE
THE BUDGET DEMANDS THAT WE HAVE
COMING UP IN THIS DISCUSSION IS
NOT ONLY SAYING NOT ONLY DO NOT
DECREASE FUNDS, BUT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT A 25% REDUCTION
IN THOSE FUNDS FOR MONEY FOR
PROBATION, AND THAT DIDN'T COME
FROM NOWHERE.
THAT CAME FROM HAVING HAD
REPEATED DISCUSSIONS WITH MANY
EXPERTS IN THE ADVOCACY SECTOR,
AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED
ON MANY PROGRAMS, AND FOUND THAT
THIS PROBATION ULTIMATELY IS A
PROBLEMATIC SITUATION.
IT CREATES A SITUATION WHERE
YOUNG PEOPLE AND UP IN THE JAIL
SYSTEM, AND TO WHAT PRESIDENT
HARRELL SAID, MAYBE, PROBATION
DOESN'T WORK IN GENERAL, BUT
IN THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL COURT,
IT'S NOT PROBLEMATIC.
THAT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING AT
ALL.
I WOULD SUPPORT SUCH A
DISCUSSION.
I WELCOME THE JUDGES TO SPEAK,
AS WELL IN DISCUSSION.
IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SUCH A
DISCUSSION PUBLICLY, I THINK
THE COMMUNITY ADVOCATE WHO
THINKS PROBATION IS PROBLEMATIC
SHOULD ALSO BE AT THE TABLE,
AND WE SHOULD HEAR FROM BOTH
SIDES IF WE ARE GOING TO HEAR
FROM THEM, AND YOU SAID YOU
HAVEN'T MADE UP YOUR MIND.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE
DISCUSSION TO HELP YOU MAKE UP
YOUR MIND, BUT I DON'T THINK WE
SHOULD HAVE JUST ONE SIDE.
I DON'T JUST MEAN THE PUBLIC
DEFENDER'S OFFICE.
I MEAN THE ADVOCATES FOR
RUNNING PROGRAMS LIKE COMMUNITY
PASSAGEWAYS, USE CONSORTIUM,
CREATIVE JUSTICE, THE PROGRAMS
I AM PROPOSING BE FUNDED
INSTEAD OF INCREASING FUNDS FOR
PROBATION.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE AT THE
TABLE, AS WELL.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A
FRUITFUL DISCUSSION.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I WILL BE BRIEF.
I AGREE WITH YOU CHAIRMAN
BAGSHAW AND COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ.
WE'VE MET WITH JUDGES, AS WELL
ON THE WHOLE ISSUE OF
PROBATION.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MY
UNDERSTANDING IS A LOT OF THIS
IS DEDICATED TO DEFENDANTS WHO
ARE ON PROBATION FOR DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE, AND DUIs IN WHICH
PROBATION IS MANDATORY.
IT'S THE CRIMINAL SIDE OF THAT.
AS A FORMER PUBLIC DEFENDER AND
JUDGE, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I
THINK ABOUT PROBATION.
T HAS A LONG, CONVOLUTED
HISTORY WHERE, FOR ME, THE
FOCUS SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE ON
REHABILITATION.
NOT JUST PUNITIVE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
WE HAVE SEEN IT START TO
CHANGE.
WE SAW THAT DIFFERENCE WHEN WE
INSTITUTED, IN THE LATE 80s,
LATE 90s DRUG COURT.
PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK DRUG COURT
WOULD WORK.
WE HAD TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT
RELAPSE IS PART OF HEALING.
SO, YOU CAN'T JUST PUT PEOPLE
IN JAIL WHERE THEY RELAPSE
BECAUSE IT'S A MEDICAL
CONDITION, NOT A CRIME.
IT WAS A MEDICAL CONDITION WE
HAD TO LOOK AT.
I LIKE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ SAID, AND I CERTAINLY
AGREE WITH THE CHAIR, THAT THIS
DESERVES SOME MORE
CONVERSATION, PARTICULARLY
AFTER OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
JUDGES, AND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS
ARE, AND HOW PROBATION IS USED
AS A TOOL.
I SHOULD ADD, JUST AS A
HISTORICAL NOTE, CRIMINAL LAW
FROM A LONG TIME AGO IS REALLY
BASED UPON THE BEHAVIOR OF POOR
PEOPLE.
THAT'S HOW CRIMINAL LAW CAME TO
BE.
STEALING FOOD, DEBTOR'S JAIL.
ALL OF THAT STUFF.
IT'S AN EVOLUTION OF THAT.
I WANT TO SEE THAT KIND OF
VESTIGE, AND I AGREE WITH
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ THAT WE
HAVE TO RECALIBRATE HOW WE
LOOK AT PROBATION.
IT CAN'T BE THE PROBATION THAT
I HAD TO DEAL WITH YEARS AGO
THAT THIS IS A NEW WAY OF
LOOKING AT CRIMINAL LAW, AND WE
HAVE THAT REHABILITATIVE, AND
WHAT THE CHAIRWOMAN SAID.
WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE WITH ANKLE
BRACELETS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE
JUST RUNNING AROUND, CHASING
PEOPLE AROUND TO DO A GOTCHA.
I AM STILL LEARNING MORE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
PLEASE, GO AHEAD, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT HARRELL.
>> I WON'T BE BRIEF.
I AM NOT GOING TO BE THE
DEFENDER OF PROBATION.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY
WHO DEFENDED FOLKS CHARGED
UNLAWFULLY FOR PROBATION
VIOLATIONS, IN MY OPINION.
I DON'T HAVE TO BE TOLD THE
UNFAIRNESS OF THE SYSTEM.
I DID THAT FOR MANY YEARS.
I AM JUST SAYING, BASED ON MY
DISCUSSIONS WITH THESE REALLY
WELL INTENDED JUDGE OF, I WOULD
LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE
ORGANIZATION YOU JUST MENTIONED.
MANY OF THE ORGANIZATION WAS ON
THE STREETS, HELPING THESE
PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING
UNLAWFULLY, AND I THINK
UNFAIRLY ACCUSED OF PROBATION
VIOLATIONS, AND IT BEING USED
AS A WEAPON, BUT I THINK WE ARE
ALL TRYING TO GET TO THE SAME
PLACE.
I AM NOT REALLY HEARING
DISAGREEMENT ON WHERE WE ARE
TRYING TO GET TO, BUT WE MAY
HAVE A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT
WHAT'S HAPPENING.
>> SORRY, I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING
TO CLOSE THIS OUT, AND IT'S
4:20.
>> WE WILL McGAHN THROUGH LIKE
THREE NOT EVEN.
THE FIRST ITEM.
>> BECAUSE COUNCIL PRESIDENT,
YOU'VE SAID THERE'S BEEN
MISCOMMUNICATED, NOBODY HAS
MISCOMMUNICATED TO ME ANYTHING.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GOAL IS
HERE.
IT'S TO PROVIDE $170,000 TO
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL COURT TO BUY
ADDITIONAL PROBATION SERVICES
THAT WILL BE CATERED
SPECIFICALLY TO THIS
POPULATION.
BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE NO DETAILS.
WE HAVE NO DETAILS WHATSOEVER
ABOUT HOW THIS PROBATION
PROGRAM WILL BE SET UP OTHER
THAN THE ADJECTIVE BEING ADDED
IN FRONT OF PROBATION THAT IS
THE WORD "ENHANCED."
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS.
I DON'T THINK THE JUDGES OR THE
MAYOR KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS.
úIT HAS NOT BEEN CLEARLY
DEFINED.
WE HAVE NO PERFORMANCE METRICS.
WE HAVE NO MEASUREMENTS TO
DEFINE IT AND I GET IT.
WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT AROUND
HOW THE CITY SHOULD OR
SHOULDN'T USE PROBATION
SERVICES.
I AM NOT ASSIGNING ANY
NEFARIOUS INTENT TO OUR JUDGES
OR THOSE INSTITUTIONAL PLAYERS.
THEY HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY, AND I
BELIEVE THAT THEY BELIEVE VERY
STRONGLY IN THE ROLE THEY HAVE
TO PLAY, BUT I CONTINUE TO HAVE
A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, BASICALLY TURNING A 180
FROM HAVING A CONVERSATION LAST
YEAR WHERE WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT POTENTIALLY DEFUNDING
PROBATION TO NOW BEING HERE A
YEAR LATER IN THIS BUDGET
CONVERSATION, TALKING ABOUT
PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL
$170,000 TO THE VERY THING WE
WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION
ABOUT THAT LED TO A BODY OF
WORK AROUND REALIGNING THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND
AKING SERIOUSLY OUR OBLIGATION
TO REFORM THE SYSTEM JUST
BECAUSE THE COURT SYSTEM,
THROUGH ITS EXISTING PROBATION
SERVICES, IS CAUSING LESS TIME
THAN IT WOULD OTHERWISE BE
CALLING IN 1982, DOESN'T MEAN
THAT PROBATION IS FUNDAMENTALLY
A GOOD, POSITIVE, PRODUCTIVE
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE TOOL.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO
WOULD DESCRIBE PROBATION AS
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE, AND I FEEL
VERY STRONGLY AS WE CONTINUE TO
HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, THAT
IT'S A TWO-CITED CONVERSATION.
THAT WE AREN'T JUST HEARING
FROM PEOPLE WHO OWNED THE
SYSTEM, AND WE ARE HEARING FROM
PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED FROM
THE SYSTEM.
AND THAT WE ARE HEARING FROM
PEOPLE WE HAVE IN DUST TESTED
MEANINGFUL DOLLARS IN, WHO'VE
HELPED US TURN THE CORNER ON
EFFECTIVELY DIVERTING PEOPLE
FROM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM, SO THAT INCLUDES
CRIMINAL PASSAGEWAYS.
CHOOSE 180 HAS BEEN GETTING A
LOT OF ATTENTION, TOO.
I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT JUST
GETTING, AND I KNOW WE ARE
ABOUT TO, JUST GIVE THE
INSTITUTION AN OPPORTUNITY TO
DEFEND THE INSTITUTION.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
FOR US TO CHALLENGE OURSELVES,
AND ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT
PROBATION AS A TOOL STILL
CAUSES HARM.
IT MAY NOT BE THE SAME VERSION
OF HARM THAT WE HAD IN THE PAST
BECAUSE WE ADOPTED DIFFERENT
PRACTICES NOW.
I CANNOT SIT HERE WITH A HIGH
LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE AND SAY
THAT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES
WILL PROBATION CAUSE HARM.
>> JUDGE SADIDE.
>> THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE
COUNCILMEMBERS WHO'VE BEEN
WILLING TO TALK ABOUT THIS VERY
IMPORTANT ISSUE.
LET ME START MY COMMENTS BY
SAYING SOMETHING AND
ACKNOWLEDGING SOMETHING.
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS
INSTITUTED STRUCTURAL RACISM
THAT HAS RUN THROUGH IT FOR ALL
OF HISTORY.
FOR A JUDGE TO SAY ANYTHING
DIFFERENT IS JUST WRONG.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
I BEGAN MY CAREER AS A CRIMINAL
DEFENSE ATTORNEY.
I SPECIALIZED IN THE DEFENSE OF
NONIMMIGRANT OR NONCITIZEN
IMMIGRANTS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM,
AND MAKING SURE THEY GET A FAIR
SHAKE.
MANY OF OUR JUDGES CAME FROM
THE SAME TYPES OF PLACES.
WE CAME TO THE BENCH WITH THE
KNOWLEDGE THAT THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM HAD SERIOUS
FLAWS, SERIOUS RACISM, AND WE
CAME TO TRY TO CHANGE THAT.
WE CONSIDER OURSELVES
REFORMERS.
FIRST AND FOREMOST.
THE ENTIRE MUNICIPAL COURT
BENCH HAS TURNED OVER IN THE
LAST EIGHT YEARS.
YOU HAVE A COMPLETELY NEW BENCH.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR FIVE YEARS.
I AM THE THIRD MOST SENIOR
JUDGE THERE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORIC
PROBLEMS, YOU ARE NOT DEALING
WITH THE PRESENT COURT.
THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS, IS
PROBATION PART OF A RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE PLAN?
IS IT CAUSING MORE HARM THAN
GOOD?
I THINK WE HAVE AN HONEST
DISAGREEMENT ON THAT, BUT I
THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN
HAVE ELOQUENT CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS
HAPPENED IN THE LAST YEAR.
IN THE PAST YEAR, WE HAVE HAD
UNPARALLELED COLLABORATION
BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PLAYERS
OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
OUR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES
DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE ARE TRYING
TO CHANGE OUR NAME FROM
PROBATION TO PROGRAMS AND
SERVICES BECAUSE IT MORE
ACCURATELY REFLECTS WHO WE ARE,
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, IS THE
FORWARD FACING ENTITY WE HAVE
TO INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY,
AND IT HAS TWO GOALS.
THE FIRST, TO REDUCE CRIME, AND
INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE SECOND GOAL IS TO CONNECT
PEOPLE LONG-TERM WITH THE
COMMUNITY WHERE THEY CAN GET
THE HELP THEY NEED.
THIS IS A GOAL WE SHARE WITH
OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE VITAL,
REACH, AND L.E.A.D..
THESE ARE PROGRAMS WE WORK WITH
IN THE COURT IN ORDER TO TRY
TO DO THIS.
WHAT HAVE YOU GOTTEN FOR THE
MONEY YOU'VE ALREADY SPENT?
FOR THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE WORKED
WITH OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
PARTNERS TO START A COMMUNITY
COURT THAT STRUCTURES PREVIOUS
COURTS WHERE SOMEBODY HAD TO
PLEAD A PLAY.
NOW, THEY WON'T BE GIVING UP
RIGHTS.
IT WILL BE ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY
SERVICE.
YOU HAVE A COURT RESOURCE
CENTER THAT CONNECTS HUNDREDS
OF PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF THEIR
CONTACT WITH THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM.
YOU HAVE OUR MENTAL HEALTH
COURT, WHICH IS NEWLY
REVITALIZED.
WE HAVE PEOPLE BEGGING TO GET
INTO THE COURT IN ORDER TO
RECEIVE THE SERVICES WE ARE
ABLE TO GIVE THEM.
WE HAVE VETERAN'S TREATMENT
COURT WHERE PEOPLE WHO SERVED
OUR COUNTRY HAVE A VOICE IN
THEIR OWN REHABILITATION.
WE HAVE OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
COURT, AND THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROJECT,
WHICH WE HAVE BEEN NATIONAL
LEADERS ON, IN CREATING A NEW
TREATMENT PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE
DOMESTIC ABUSE STOPS.
IT HURTS ME TO HEAR THAT WE ARE
LUMPED IN WITH THE PROBATION
DEPARTMENTS OF OTHER CITIES, OF
THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
THIS IS SIMPLY NOT ACCURATE.
SOME OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS ARE
REVOKING 30, 45 DAYS FOR
ABSTAINED VIOLATIONS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD
NEVER HAPPEN IN MY COURT.
IN MY COURT, WE ADDRESS IT,
POSITIVELY.
IF SOMEBODY STAYS ABSTINENT,
THEY GET A PRIZE IN MENTAL
HEALTH COURT.
WE TRY TO CONNECT THEM WITH
SERVICES AND ENCOURAGE THEM.
WE TAKE HARM REDUCTION
PRINCIPLES AND TRY TO ADDRESS
THEM.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A LOT OF
HISTORICAL PROBLEMS WITH
PROBATION, OR AS I LIKE TO CALL
IT, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, BUT
THESE ARE THINGS WE ARE TRYING
TO CHANGE AND I THINK THE
ESSENTIAL THING HERE IS TRUST.
IF WE HAVE TRUST, THEN WE CAN
TALK ABOUT PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.
IF WE DON'T HAVE TRUST, THAT'S
SOMETHING WE NEED TO BUILD WITH
EACH OTHER, AND CREATE THAT
TRUST, SO WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS
COME ALONG, WE CAN SAY YES, WE
TRUST YOU IN ORDER TO DO THAT
PROGRAM IN A WAY WE THINK WILL
BE WELL SPENT.
IF THAT TRUST HASN'T BEEN BUILT
YET, I WOULD LIKE TO STRIVE TO
BUILD THAT TRUST OVER THE NEXT
YEAR.
BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR
JUDGES ARE WORKING EVERY DAY TO
REFORM THE SYSTEM, AND IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO HELP US WITH THAT
REFORM WORK, PLEASE, TAKE THE
HAND THAT IS BEING OFFERED, AND
WORK WITH US.
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR COMING.
I WILL ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO
CONNECT WITH YOU.
THANK YOU.
I LIKE TO MOVE ON IF WE CAN.
>> CHAIR BACK CHALK, IT'S QUITE
PROBLEMATIC IN MY VIEW THAT YOU
GAVE SPECIAL TIME TO A JUDGE.
THAT'S FINE.
I'M ALWAYS UP FOR DEBATE.
I THINK ALL SIDES SHOULD BE
HEARD EARLY, BUT YOU DID THIS
RIGHT AFTER I PROPOSED THAT WE
SHOULD HEAR ALL SIDES TOGETHER.
AGAIN, I WANT TO BE STATE FOR
THE RECORD THAT I THINK, IF
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM ONE
SIDE, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE
OTHER SIDE, AND THE BUDGET
COMMITTEE SHOULD SCHEDULE TIME
TO HEAR FROM ADVOCATES IN THE
COMMUNITY WHO HAVE VERY STRONG
VIEWS BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE
THAT PROBATION IS NOT
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE, AND
SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE.
MY OFFICE WILL BE MEETING WITH
ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES, THE
JUDGE, AND WE'RE TOTALLY OPEN
TO HEARING FROM ALL SIDES, BUT
I DO THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC IN
A PUBLIC DISCUSSION, WE HAVE
GIVEN SPECIAL TIME TO ONE SIDE
AND NOT THE OTHER.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE REMARKS.
I WOULD LIKE US TO CONTINUE,
PLEASE.
>> BEFORE WE GET INTO ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION, JUST IN THIS
SECTION, YOU WILL SEE OUR
BUDGET ACTIONS PROPOSED THAT
ARE NOT RELATED TO L.E.A.D..
THE FIRST IS TO CUT $1.59 FOR
MUNICIPAL COURT FUNDING FOR
PROBATION ENFORCEMENT.
THAT'S FROM COUNCILMEMBER
HARRELL.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO
IT?
>> YES.
THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT.
AS I SAID BEFORE, MY OFFICE HAS
BEEN DISCUSSING WITH MANY, MANY
ORGANIZATIONS ON THE IMPACT OF
PROBATION AS OPPOSED TO OTHER
PROGRAMS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
DESCRIPTION IN A BASIC LAYOUT
OF WHAT DOES PROBATION MEAN,
AND IT'S NOT LIKE THEY ARE JUST
EQUIVALENT OPTIONS.
YOU DO PROBATION OR THIS
SERVICE, AND OTHER COULD RESULT
IN A RESTORATIVE PATHWAY.
IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
PROBATION IS FUNDAMENTALLY A
DIFFERENT KIND OF APPROACH THAN
OTHER PROGRAMS, AND SO, HAVING
DISCUSSED WITH MANY COMMUNITY
MEMBERS, ORGANIZERS, WE ARE
HOPING THAT THE COUNCIL WILL
SUPPORT THIS, NOT ONLY TO NOT
ADD NEW MONIES TO PROBATION, BUT
CUTTING PROBATION BY 25% TO
FUND RESTORATIVE JUSTICE FOR
ALL OF THE REASONS I'VE ALWAYS
SAID AND WON'T REPEAT THAT
PROBATION OFTEN DOES MORE HARM
THAN GOOD.
IT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS
PEOPLE OF COLOR AND SENDS THEM
ON A SORT OF BIPLANE TO MASS
INCARCERATION RATHER THAN
BRINGING THEM SOCIALLY BETTER
OUTCOMES.
RACIAL JUSTICE HAS PROVEN FAR
BETTER OUTCOMES.
WE ARE WORKING WITH COMMUNITY
ORGANIZERS TO PUT TOGETHER A
FORM B AS WE SAY IN CITY
COUNCIL LINGO FOR THE BUDGET,
TO FUND THE COMMUNITY AND
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE PROGRAMS
THAT HAVE PROVIDED POSITIVE
ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION
AND PROBATION, AND THE PROPOSAL
THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS STILL
A WORK IN PROGRESS BECAUSE WE
ARE STILL DISCUSSING WITH THE
GROUPS, BUT WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR
IS FUNDING COMMUNITY
PASSAGEWAYS AND USE CONSORTIUM
TO THE TUNE OF $300,000.
CREATIVE JUSTICE TO THE TUNE OF
$25,600.
AND THE IDEA OF CORNER
GREETERS, WHICH WE HAVEN'T
ATTACHED A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
I WANT TO MENTION QUICKLY,
DURING THE DISCUSSION, MY
OFFICE PUT FORWARD THE FUNDS, I
MEAN THE PROPOSAL FOR FUNDS,
FOR FREEDOM SCHOOL, WHICH IS A
YOUTH OF COLOR SUMMER PROGRAM
THAT HAS HAD A SUCCESSFUL TRACK
RECORD.
RAINIER BEACH ADVOCATED
SUCCESSFULLY FOR O.R.C.A.
CARD FUNDING, BUT WE ARE
PROPOSING THAT FUNDING THAT HAS
FALLEN THROUGH THE CRACKS BE
RESTORED, AND EXTEND TO EMERSON
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PUT THAT
FREEDOM SCHOOL FUNDING IN THE
FORM B's, AND ADD THIS TO OTHER
PROGRAMS, LIKE COMMUNITY
PASSAGEWAYS AND CREATIVE
JUSTICE.
TOGETHER, INTO A UNIFORMED FORM
B TO SUPPORT YOUTH OF COLOR IN
SUPPORT OF PROGRAMS OTHER THAN
THE SCHOOL-TO-PRISON PIPELINE.
AS I SAID, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD
REDUCE PROBATION FROM THE
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL COURT BY 25%,
AND THIS WHOLE PROGRAM WOULD BE
CONSISTENT WITH THE BUDGET FOR
DEMANDS PUT FORWARD BY THE
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S ASSOCIATION
AND OTHER ALLIED GROUPS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD ?
>> I AM CONFUSED ABOUT THE
PROPOSAL TO CUT PROBATION AS IT
HAS BEEN EXPLAINED BECAUSE I
DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD SENSE OF
HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THE CURRENT
PROBATION SERVICES THAT ARE
REQUIRED BY LAW TO BE PROVIDED,
SO DUIs, AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
WHICH I THINK MAKES UP 61%?
>> THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT
OUT.
I MAY NOT KNOW THE FULL ANSWER
TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I WOULD OPEN ALL SIDES TO WEIGH
IN ON THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED
TO CLARIFY THAT IN OUR
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE GROUPS,
WITH THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
ASSOCIATION, THEY MADE IT VERY
CLEAR THAT WOULD NOT IMPACT THE
DV AND DUI FUNDS IN ANY WAY.
>> WE KNOW FROM THE NUMBER OF
DOLLARS, YOUR PROPOSAL PROPOSES
TO CUT, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
OVER HALF OF THE SERVICES BEING
PROVIDED.
BEING PROVIDED FOR STATE-
MANDATED PROBATION SERVICES.
SO YOUR COTTWOOD LEAVE 60%
INTACT?
>> ALL OF THE ESSENTIAL
ASPECTS, LIKE DV AND DUI, IN MY
VIEW, IN MY UNDERSTANDING, WILL
BE LEFT INTACT, BUT I AM HAPPY
TO HAVE THE GROUPS CLARIFY
MORE.
>> I THINK OUR BUDGET OFFICE --
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S
SOMETHING EXTERNAL TO THE CITY
GROUPS.
>> I THINK THEY WOULD KNOW.
I THINK THE GROUPS DO KNOW WHAT
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, SO I
MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE DETAILS,
BUT I'M SURE THEY DO.
HAPPY TO RAISE THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
THE HIGH COMMUNITY RISK, THE
PERCENTAGE REQUIRED BY LAW IS
72%.
I AM SURE WE CAN GET THAT.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
>> NO.
>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW
UP.
THE SECOND IS TO AND RESPONSES
TO COMMUNITY HATE VIOLENCE.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> LET'S SWITCH GEARS.
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS CONVENED
DISCUSSIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS
AROUND HATE CRIMES COMING OUT OF
A SERIES OF AUDITS DONE BY THE
CITY AUDITOR.
BOTH REQUESTED BY MYSELF, OF
THE CITY AUDITOR, AS WELL AS
PREVIOUS COUNCILS.
THERE'S A CLEAR REQUEST FOR
SUPPORT FROM COMMUNITY-BASED
RESPONSES, INCLUDING BETTER
COORDINATION REPORTING.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE HEARD
FROM BOTH AFFECTED GROUPS, AS
WELL AS THE CITY AUDITOR, IS
THAT HATE CRIMES ARE GOING
UNREPORTED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE
IDENTIFIED A NEED AS IT RELATES
TO OUR HATE CRIMES LEGISLATION
THAT HAS MOVED OUT OF COMMITTEE
BUT THAT WE HAVE NOT YET BEEN
ABLE TO BRING FORWARD TO FULL
COUNCIL YET BECAUSE OF CONCERNS
AROUND DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT
OF NEW HATE CRIME CHARGES ON
PEOPLE BEING CHARGED FOR
UNDERLYING CRIMES, AND SO THERE
IS INTEREST IN IDENTIFYING
SANCTIONS THAT ARE RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE SANCTIONS INSTEAD OF
PUNITIVE SANCTIONS LIKE HEALING
CIRCLES FOR OFFENDERS, AND
SURVIVORS OF HATE CRIMES, AND
SO THERE MAY BE A POSSIBLE
APPROACH MOVING FORWARD, USING
SOME EXISTING FUNDS TO ADDRESS
ONE OR MORE OF THESE OBJECTIVES.
>> OKAY.
THAT'S IT?
>> OUR NEXT ISSUE IS L.E.A.D..
>> SORRY, I WAS WAITING FOR
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ TO WEIGH
IN.
GO AHEAD.
>> GREG DOSS, COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
L.E.A.D..
GIVEN THE HOUR, I CAN SKIP TO
THE MEAT OF THE ISSUE, IF YOU
LIKE, AND GO AHEAD, AND START
WITH THIS ISSUE IDENTIFICATION
SLIDE BEFORE YOU.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A PROPOSED
EXPANSION OF THE PROGRAM, AND
THIS IS THE RESULT OF THE
STAFF'S LOOK AT THE LAST YEAR,
IN WHICH THE CASELOAD HAS
DOUBLED.
IT HAS GONE FROM SOMEWHERE IN
THE HIGH HUNDREDS, TO 754
CASES.
THIS HAPPENED AS THE PROGRAM
EXPANDED IN 2018 INTO THE NORTH
PRECINCT, AND IN THIS YEAR,
INTO THE SODO AREA.
THAT CAN BE SEEN IN THE CHART
TO THE LEFT, THE SORT OF YELLOW
BARS THERE.
REPRESENTING LEAD INTO THE
NORTH PRECINCT.
OBVIOUSLY, THE DEMAND WAS A LOT
HIGHER THAN ANYONE IN PROGRAM
THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, AND AS
SUCH, AS THEY MOVED INTO THE
SODO AREA, THEY HAD TO ASK THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PRIORITIZE
THE REFERRALS, AND THAT'S WHY
YOU SEE TWO LINES HERE ON THE
CHART TO THE RIGHT.
I AM GOING TO PICK THE FIRST
NUMBER, SEPTEMBER 2019.
THE 754 IS THE NUMBER OF
L.E.A.D.
CLIENTS THAT HAVE HAD AN
INTAKE.
THERE ARE A FEW HUNDRED MORE
THAT ARE FOR A LACK OF BETTER
WAY TO SAY ON A WAITING LIST.
THEY'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS HIGH-
PRIORITY INTAKES, POTENTIAL
INTAKES WITH THE SODO AREA, AND
NORTH PRECINCT, BUT JUST PUT
SIMPLY, THE PROGRAM DOESN'T
HAVE THE CASE MANAGERS TO BE
ABLE TO GET TO THOSE FOLKS, SO
IF THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM DID HAVE ENOUGH CASE
MANAGERS, RIGHT AWAY, THEY
WOULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO
HAVE 1051 CASES.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO CHANGE THAT
OVER.
WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT
NOW IS FUNDING.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT IS
THE FUNDING THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM CURRENTLY HAS FOR
SEATTLE SERVICES
YOU CAN SEE THERE IS 718 IN
TRUE BLOOD FUNDING.
THAT'S THE COURT CASE THAT I'M
NOT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL,
BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH
IMPRISONING FOLKS WHO HAD YET TO
STAND COMPETENCY HEARINGS.
THERE IS SEATTLE FUNDING IN THE
AMOUNT OF $2.55 MILLION, AND
THEN THE KING COUNTY FUNDING OF
$1.6 MILLION.
I WILL NOTE HERE THAT THE KING
COUNTY FUNDING IS A MUCH
SMALLER PICTURE THAN WHAT YOU
SAW ON OCTOBER 2 WHEN THE
PROGRAM PRESENTED, AND THAT IS
BECAUSE THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF
FUNDING KING COUNTY PROVIDES I
CAN GO TO SEATTLE CLIENTS, SO
L.E.A.D.
IS OFFERED ELSEWHERE IN THE
COUNTY.
IN BURIEN, AND THEY ARE
SPREADING INTO THE SOUTH AREA
OF THE COUNTY.
BUT THE MONEY THAT THEY
RECEIVED FROM KING COUNTY, THEY
HAVE SEATTLE SPECIFIC DOLLARS.
THAT'S THE $1.6 MILLION.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS NEXT YEAR,
THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO HAVE
$4.87 MILLION IN REVENUES THEY
CAN USE TO PROVIDE SERVICE IN
SEATTLE.
GOING BACK REALLY QUICKLY TO
THAT LINE CHART, WHAT THEY ARE
PROJECTING IS THAT BY THE END
OF DECEMBER, THEY ARE GOING TO
HAVE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM SOMEWHERE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1400 CASES.
THIS IS A PROJECTION THAT IS
COMING FROM THE LEAD STAFF.
IT IS ONE THAT SPD IS STILL
THINKING ABOUT, AND DOESN'T
NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THE
LINEAR NATURE OF WHAT IS BEING
PROPOSED HERE, AND SAYS AS
L.E.A.D.
COMES INTO PRECINCTS, THERE
TENDS TO BE AN INITIAL BUMP OF
CLIENTS, AND THEN IT LEVELS
OUT.
I THINK, WELL THAT'S LIKELY THE
CASE, YOU CAN SEE THE BUMP IN
NORTH PRECINCT WAS PRETTY HIGH,
KNOWING THAT THERE IS 300 FOLKS
ON THE WAITING LIST RIGHT NOW,
IT CERTAINLY SEEMS THAT
EXPANSION INTO THE SOUTH
PRECINCT, AN UNTAPPED AREA, OR
ON SERVICED AREA IN THE
SOUTHWEST PRECINCT, AND THEN
REMOVING OR ALLOWING ANY
REFERRALS FROM SODO, IT'S
PRETTY EASY TO SEE HOW THEY CAN
GET UP TO 1400 BY THE END OF
NEXT YEAR.
IF THAT IS INDEED THE CASE,
L.E.A.D.
IS GOING TO NEED A LOT MORE
SUPPORT.
WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS TO
ENVISION WHAT A BUDGET WOULD
LOOK LIKE IF THEY WERE TO
PROVIDE SUPPORT TO 1400 ACTIVE
CLIENTS.
THE VERY FIRST BUDGET LINE ITEM
THAT YOU CAN SEE UNDER DIRECT
PROGRAM IS CASE MANAGEMENT
SERVICES.
THAT'S EVERGREEN TREATMENT
SERVICES.
THOSE ARE THE OUTREACH
COORDINATORS THAT ARE EMPLOYED
BY L.E.A.D., AND CONTRACTED TO
L.E.A.D..
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROJECTED
2019 EXPENDITURE IS $20.4
MILLION.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE IS ABOUT
19 CASE MANAGERS.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN 2020 IS IF
YOU WERE TO GO TO THE MAXIMUM
CASES THAT THE STAFF IS
PROJECTING, YOU WOULD REACH A
NEED FOR 73 CASE MANAGERS, AND
$7.9 MILLION.
AS YOU SEE, THERE ARE SOME
OTHER INCREASES FOR AFTER-HOURS
COVERAGE, INCREASES FOR LEGAL
SERVICES, AND I THINK MISTER
GUARD AND HER PRESENTATION WILL
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
NEED FOR RAISES, WHICH ARE
FAIRLY MINIMAL FOR THE OUTREACH
PERSONNEL, AND SO, WHAT THIS
COMES DOWN TO IS A NEED FOR
$4.72 MILLION, AND THAT IS THE
GAP BETWEEN WHAT WE EXPECT ON
THE LEFT, THE 4.87 WINDOWS IN
REVENUE THAT'S GOING TO COME
IN, AND WHAT WE SEE IN THE
LOWEST RIGHT HAND CORNER, THE
$9.175 MILLION.
IN ORDER TO FULLY FUND THE
BUDGET ON THE RIGHT, THAT WOULD
BE NEEDED TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO
1400 CLIENTS, THERE WOULD NEED
TO BE AN AND OF $4.7 MILLION.
I WILL STOP AND ASK IF THERE IS
ANY QUESTIONS.
>> BEFORE WE DIVE IN, MY SENSE
IS THAT THERE IS UNANIMOUS MANY
APPEAR FOR SUPPORT.
NUMBER FOUR IS A PROPOSED $3.5
MILLION I HAVE PROPOSED TO
L.E.A.D..
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING
DIFFERENT BETWEEN THREE AND
FOUR OTHER THAN THE REDUCED
NUMBER.
I WAS RELYING UPON WHAT I HAD
HEARD FROM LISA DAUGAARD, AND
DAN SATTERBERG ABOUT THE
AVAILABILITY OF SOME PRIVATE
FUNDS IF WE PUT IN A 3.5 NUMBER
AS A BASELINE, SO FOR MY
COLLEAGUES, IN NO WAY AM I
TRYING TO REDUCE THE EFFICACY
OF L.E.A.D..
I'M GOING TO LET YOU DUKE IT
OUT AT UP HERE, AND THEN
WHATEVER THE BUDGET NUMBER IS
WILL BE DEALT UPON OTHER THINGS
THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO FUND
OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN?
>> JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE
NUMBERS.
THAT CHART COMPARES 19
PROJECTED TO THE 2020.
THAT WOULD BE THE $1400 OR 1400
ACTIVE CLIENTS?
>> YES.
WHAT DOES THE 2020 ENDORSE?
>> THE 2020 ENDORSED IS THE
SAME LEVEL AS THE LEFT HERE.
$2.55 MILLION.
>> AND THEN, IN THE CHART
BEFORE THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION,
THE PROPOSED BUDGET, THERE WAS
A L.E.A.D.
DIVERSION OF $2.5 MILLION IN A
LINE ITEM THERE.
>> THAT IS ALL OF THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM FUNDING FOR 2020.
THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE
FUNDING THAT THE PROGRAM HAS
ALREADY RECEIVED FOR EAST
PRECINCT, WEST PRECINCT, NORTH
PRECINCT.
ALL OF THE FUNDING TO DATE IF
THE COUNCIL DID NOTHING ELSE.
THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM WOULD HAVE A $2.5
MILLION.
>> SO THAT'S NOT JUST THE ADS
FOR 2020, WHICH REALLY DON'T
EXIST.
BUT WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT
EARLIER.
A LOT OF THE THINGS LOOKS LIKE
ADS, BUT FOR L.E.A.D., IT'S THE
BASE FUNDING.
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
INTERCEPT CHART?
I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
WHY WAS THAT SHOWN AS AN ADD?
>> I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN
A LITTLE APPLES AND ORANGES IN
THERE OR SOMETHING.
>> A FRUIT SALAD?
>> THE DISCUSSION WE HAD
EARLIER, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT
SET OF FOLKS, WAS THAT
EVERYTHING ON THE WAS THE
MARGINAL INCREASE TO 20 2020.
WE ARE NOT ADDING -- THE
MAYOR'S BUDGET DOESN'T PROPOSE
$2.5 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR
L.E.A.D..
>> YOU ARE RIGHT.
THAT IS JUST STAFF PUTTING
TOGETHER A CHART WAY TOO FAST
BUT I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
2.5 IS THE AMOUNT L.E.A.D.
HAS NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE SUPPORT
FOR MY FUNDING HERE.
FOR THE SAKE OF IT BEING LATE
IN THE DAY, I WANT TO LET FOLKS
KNOW THAT I WILL DO WHATEVER
CALISTHENICS ARE NECESSARY TO
GET SOMETHING CLOSE TO FULL
FUNDING FOR THE FULL 1400.
LIKE YOU SAID, COUNCILMEMBER
BAGSHAW I WANT TO BELIEVE
THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES THAT IF
THE CITY COMES IN WITH A STRONG
COMMITMENT, WE'RE GOING TO FIND
OUTSIDE SOURCES TO HELP.
MAYBE, THEY ARE PUBLIC OR
PRIVATE.
I WANT TO SPEAK WITH THOSE
FOLKS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO
BE THE CITY GETTING US 100% OF
THE WAY THERE, BUT WE NEED TO
DO SOMETHING BOLD.
>> ANY MORE COMMENTS?
>> CALISTHENICS?
>> IT AIN'T PRETTY.
ú>> ALL RIGHT.
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, BUT LET'S
CONTINUE.
>> THAT'S ALL I HAD.
I THINK COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE
ADDRESSED THEIR ACTIONS.
$4.279. I WOULD ASK IF THOSE
COUNCILMEMBERS BESIDES
COUNCILMEMBER CONTROLS, IF
GONZALEZ OR SAWANT WANTED TO
SAY ANYTHING.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT YOU
SAID, MADAME CHAIR.
ALL OF THE PROPOSALS ARE ALIKE
IN THE SENSE THAT THEY WOULD
FULLY FUND THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM, AND THAT YOURS IS
DIFFERENT ONLY IN THE HOPES
THAT THERE WOULD BE PRIVATE
SECTOR FUNDING.
I KNOW LISA DAUGAARD RIGHT NOW
IS ON THE EAST COAST, TRYING TO
SECURE THAT FUNDING.
SHE BELIEVES SHE WILL HAVE AN
ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IN THE
NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ANYTHING TO ADD DOWN HERE?
OKAY.
THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE THAT
THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND
THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF
THE COUNCIL'S TOP PRIORITIES.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
DUGARD WHEN SHE RETURNS.
BASED UPON WHAT WE HEARD LAST
WEEK, BUT ALSO FROM DAN
SATTERBERG WHEN HE WAS HERE,
JUST THE REAL BELIEF THAT THIS
IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE.
THIS IS WHAT IS SHOWING
SUCCESS.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES
IN PLACES FOR PEOPLE SO THEY
HAVE HOUSING OVER THEIR HEADS,
THAT IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST
STEP THAT IS REALLY GOING TO
MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK ON
THIS.
>> THANK YOU.
I SHOULD ALSO MENTION, I WILL
KEEP THE COUNCIL INFORMED AS I
GET NEW INFORMATION FROM MISTER
GUARD.
THE $4.7 MILLION, OF COURSE,
THIS IS PHASING IN WHEN YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT 53 CASE MANAGERS
BEING ADDED, SO THERE WILL BE
AN ONGOING EFFECT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT BUDGET
DELIBERATION.
>> THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE IT'S
ONE OF MY CONCERNS, WHEN SHE
TALKS ABOUT MEETING 53 CASE
MANAGERS.
THOSE ARE 53 QUALIFIED CASE
MANAGERS WITH EXPERIENCE, AND
NOT JUST SOMEBODY WHO IS NEW
AND FRESH.
WE MAY HAVE THAT, AS WELL, BUT
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO
FIND INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN REALLY
DO THIS WORK.
I AM DELIGHTED TO BE PART OF
THIS, SEEING THE PACKAGE GOES
FORWARD.
THAT'S IT.
WE'VE GOT THE NEXT ITEMS IN THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S RIGHT.
YES.
IT'S A GOOD THING WE HAVEN'T
BEEN IN COUNCIL MEETINGS ALL
DAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THIS HAS EVERYTHING.
>> ALL BY YOURSELF?
>> EVERYBODY ELSE LEFT ME.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND
THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR
HANGING IN.
THIS IS ONE OF THE LIGHTER
SUBJECTS WE HAVE, LIKE
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ SAID.
>> I'M SORRY, I'M NOT GOING TO
BE ABLE TO BE AS FAST AS I WAS
IN THE LAST PRESENTATION.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH
SPD.
I WILL TRY TO GO QUICKLY, BUT I
DON'T WANT TO MISS ANYTHING,
EITHER.
BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, SPD AS
YOU KNOW IS A $410 MILLION
AGENCY AND WITH OVER 2000
EMPLOYEES, THEY ARE THE LARGEST
WORKFORCE OF ANY CITY
DEPARTMENT, AND ABOUT TWO
THIRDS OF THEIR PERSONNEL ARE
SWORN OFFICERS.
BECAUSE THEY ARE SO STAFF
INTENSIVE, ABOUT 80% OF THEIR
BUDGET IS STAFFING COSTS AND
PERSONNEL COSTS.
YOU WILL FIND IN MY CENTRAL
STAFF MEMO, THAT YOU'VE BEEN
ISSUED, THAT THERE IS A LOT OF
INFORMATION, AND I'M NOT GOING
TO GO OVER ALL OF THAT
INFORMATION TODAY, BUT YOU WILL
FIND IN THE APPENDICES, THERE
ARE ANSWERS TO A NUMBER OF
QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILMEMBERS
USUALLY HAVE ABOUT PATROL
STAFFING.
THERE IS AN APPENDING THAT
ADDRESSES THE MIX OF SWORN
OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THE
DEPARTMENT.
THERE IS ONE ON 911 RESPONSE
TIME, ONE ON PROACTIVE CALLS,
AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME POLICE
OFFICERS HAVE FOR COMMUNITY
POLICING, AND FINALLY AN
APPENDIX THAT IS ON THE NUMBER
OF TRAINED OFFICERS AND CRISIS
RESPONSE TACTICS.
THAT'S ALL THERE FOR YOU.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON
THAT, LET ME KNOW.
WITH ME JUMP IN AND COMPARE THE
2020 ENDORSEMENT TO THE 2020
PROPOSED.
THE FIRST THING THAT'S GOING ON
IS A BIT OF A REORGANIZATION.
WHAT YOU SEE IN THE 2020
PROPOSED COLUMN IS SOME PLACES
WHERE THERE ARE BLANKS, AND I'M
GOING TO GO OVER THAT ONE
PRETTY QUICKLY.
THERE'S A NEW BUREAU THAT IS
CREATED, THE COLLABORATIVE
POLICING BUREAU.
THAT'S GOING TO HOUSE THE CRIME
PREVENTION COORDINATORS AND
COMMUNITY SERVICE OPERATORS
WHEN THEY COME ON BOARD AT THE
END OF THIS YEAR.
A NUMBER OF OTHER SORT OF
CUSTOMER FACING ORGANIZATIONS
WITH SPD.
THERE IS A REDISTRIBUTION, OR I
SHOULD SAY A CONSOLIDATION OF
THE VERIEST PRECINCTS, AS YOU
CAN SEE.
SOUTHWEST, NORTH, ETC., ARE ALL
BROUGHT INTO THE PATROL OPS.
LIKEWISE, WITH CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS, THERE'S A
NUMBER OF SPECIALTY UNITS THAT
ARE BEING ASSUMED BY THE
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS BSL, SO
IT'S A SKINNY NIANG DOWN OF THE
DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF THE
NUMBER OF BCL'S COUNCIL WILL BE
WORKING WITH.
>> I KNOW THIS IS YOUR WHOLE
AREA.
I WILL LET YOU JUMP IN.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
ON THIS CHART.
UNDER SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T TALK
ABOUT, IS THAT A DECREASE OF
4.4% IN THE CHIEF OF POLICE
BSL?
AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY?
>> YES.
>> AND THIS IS IN THOUSANDS?
>> YES.
$10.7 MILLION TO $10.2 MILLION.
>> WHAT IS THIS?
>> THE COLLABORATIVE POLICING
FUNCTIONS.
I CAN GET YOU A LIST.
>> AND SO WE ARE GIVING THE
CHIEF OF POLICE A LINE ITEM OF
$10.3 MILLION WHY?
>> THERE IS A LOT HOUSED THERE.
THAT'S WHERE THE GRANTS ARE
TYPICALLY LOCATED.
THAT'S WHERE VARIOUS KINDS OF
TRAVEL MONIES FOR THE CHIEF TO
DO, AND THE COMMAND STAFF TO GO
OUT FOR TRAINING.
THERE'S A LOT THERE.
I WOULD HAVE TO GIVE YOU A LIST
LATER ON.
I CAN'T RECALL ALL OF IT OFF
THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
>> LEADERSHIP AND
ADMINISTRATION, I'M ALSO
NOTICING THAT IS A .6%
REDUCTION FROM THE ENDORSED AND
PROPOSED.
HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN THE
CHIEF OF POLICE LINE YOU JUST
DESCRIBED.
>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET YOU
THAT, TOO.
>> THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION.
SPECIAL OPERATIONS.
AGAIN, WE ARE SEEING DAY
DECREASE IN THE BUDGET OF 1.4%,
SO IT'S GOING TO PROPOSE TO GO
FROM THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL FROM
$58.4 MILLION TO $57.6 MILLION.
I'M JUST NOT TRACKING THE
SPECIAL OPERATIONS.
>> SPECIAL OPERATIONS TYPICALLY
DOES THINGS LIKE EVENT
PLANNING, EVENT MANAGEMENT
PLANNING.
THE 1.4% COULD BE A SMALL
ADJUSTMENT.
I HONESTLY DIDN'T PAY THAT
CLOSE ATTENTION TO THOSE.
>> I AM PAYING ATTENTION TO IT
BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE NUMBERS
ADD UP TO MORE THAN A FEW
DOLLARS IN THE PIGGY BANK, YOU
KNOW?
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE THOSE
DOLLARS ARE GOING IF THERE'S A
REDUCTION.
THE MAYOR HAS PROPOSED
APPROPRIATING THOSE DOLLARS
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, JUST IN THAT
SPECIAL OPERATIONS LINE, IT'S
GOING FROM 58 TO 57.
THAT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT IN
TERMS OF DOLLARS THAT MIGHT BE
AVAILABLE FOR CITY COUNCIL
PRIORITIES, IF THERE IS ALREADY
A PROPOSED CUT BEING MADE.
>> OKAY.
I WILL GET YOU A CROSSWALK ON
THIS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I THINK THE POINTS ARE RIGHT
ON, AND I'M VERY INTERESTED IF
THERE IS MONEY THAT'S THERE,
CAN IT BE USED IN WAYS THAT WE
ALL ARE INTERESTED IN USING
THEM?
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT ALL
WITH US.
>> THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD SEGUE
TO MY NEXT TOPIC, WHICH IS TO
TALK ABOUT WHAT IS IN THE 2020
PROPOSED BUDGET.
THIS IS IN FRONT OF YOU WITH A
REORGANIZATION OF PROGRAMS, BUT
WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO WHAT IS
IN THE BUDGET.
FIRST, THERE IS A $6.2 MILLION
TECHNICAL ADJUSTMENT THAT LINES
THE SPD SALARY BUDGET WITH
ACTUAL COSTS.
THIS IS MADE TO REFLECT A NET
LOSS OF OFFICERS AND 2018 AS
WELL AS ADJUSTMENTS TO THE
STAFFING PLAN IN 2019 AND 2020.
THE FIRST ISSUE I'M GOING TO
DISCUSS TODAY IS STAFFING, AND
I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE SALARY SAVINGS ITEMS,
BUT THERE IS A $6.2 MILLION
CUT, AS I MENTIONED, AND THAT
RESULTS IN A GENERAL FUND
RESOURCE.
THERE IS A $6.4 MILLION AD OF
NEW THINGS IN THE BUDGET THAT
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH RIGHT
NOW.
THE FIRST ONE IS MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS.
YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THIS IN THE LAST PRESENTATION.
RIGHT NOW, THE CRISIS RESPONSE
TEAM HAS ONE CONTACTED MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, AND IT'S
EXPANDING SO THERE WILL BE
FIVE.
ONE FOR A CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM
IN EACH PRECINCT OF THE CITY.
THAT'S $310,000.
THERE IS AN INVESTMENT OF $1.6
MILLION IN THE MAYOR'S
RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT
INITIATIVE.
THE MAYOR HAD A REPORT WITH 12
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD
AFFECT RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION.
I WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT
LEADER, AS WELL.
MOVING ALONG, THERE IS A
$100,000 AD FOR IMPLICIT BIAS
TRAINING.
THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE
$100,000 IS PAYING FOR THE
TRAINER, AND THERE IS ALREADY
MONEY IN THE TRAINING BUDGET TO
PAY FOR OFFICERS ON OVERTIME TO
RECEIVE THE TRAINING.
THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER
THAN THE $700,000.
THE $100,000 IS JUST THE
INCREMENTAL PIECE.
THE MONEY THAT'S USED TO TRAIN
OFFICERS IS ALREADY IN THEIR
BASE BUDGET.
THERE IS A SWORN OFFICER HIRING
INCENTIVE.
AS YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL PASSED
125784 LAST YEAR.
I'M SORRY, THIS YEAR.
THAT AUTHORIZED THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE HIRING
BONUSES OF UP TO $15,000 FOR
EXPERIENCED OFFICERS AND UP TO
$7500 FOR NEW RECRUITS.
THIS ITEM WOULD CARRY THAT
THROUGH 2020 FOR ALL RECRUITS
AND LATERALS THAT ARE HIRED.
THERE IS AN AD OF 840 -- AND
PLEASE STOP ME.
I KNOW I AM RATTLING THESE OFF,
BUT I WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF
THESE IN DETAILS.
PLEASE, DO STOP ME IF YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS.
THERE IS AN AD OF $848,000.
IN 2019, THE DEPARTMENT
LAUNCHED OVER THE SUMMER, A
MULTI-DEPARTMENT EMPHASIS
PATROL THAT ENGAGES WITH
COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IN ABOUT
EIGHT DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
I THINK THIS HAS BEEN REFERRED
TO IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
WAYS.
THE PRE-SUMMER EMPHASIS PATROL
GOT EXTENDED THROUGHOUT THE
ENTIRE SUMMER.
THE SEVEN NEIGHBORHOOD EMPHASIS
PATROL ADDED A NEIGHBORHOOD,
AND SO I'M GOING TO BE CALLING
IT THE EIGHTH NEIGHBORHOOD
EMPHASIS PATROL TODAY.
THE AD OF $848,000 WOULD ALLOW
THE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE THAT
NEXT YEAR AT THE SAME LEVEL OF
EFFORT THAT YOU PROVIDED THIS
YEAR.
THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO EXPAND
THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER
PROGRAM. RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE
FUNDED IN THE 2019 BUDGET, 12
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS.
THAT'S 10 OFFICERS AND TWO
SUPERVISORS.
THOSE FOLKS ARE SCHEDULED TO
COME ON BOARD LATER THIS YEAR.
PROBABLY, CLOSER TO DECEMBER.
AND THEN, THIS AD WOULD ADD SIX
MORE TO BRING THE TOTAL TO 18.
AGAIN, I AM GOING TO DISCUSS
THAT LATER, TOO.
THERE IS THE AD OF AN FTE, AND
SOME MONEY IDENTIFIED IN THE
BASE BUDGET FOR A NATIVE
AMERICAN LIAISON.
THIS WOULD ALLOW THE
COLLABORATIVE POLICING BUREAU
TO PROVIDE CULTURALLY
RESPONSIVE SERVICES TO
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, AND
HELP NAVIGATE THE CRIMINAL
LEGAL SYSTEM.
THERE IS A $150,000 AD OF A
CIVILIAN INVESTIGATOR TO THE
OFFICE OF POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE LAST SPOT CONTRACT
NEGOTIATED A PLACE WHERE SPD
COULD HIRE THREE CIVILIANS TO
DO INVESTIGATIONS.
THIS IS THE THIRD.
THE OTHER TWO HAVE ALREADY BEEN
ADDED.
THE REST OF THE OFFICE IS STILL
SWORN IN, DOING THE
INVESTIGATIONS.
THERE IS A SCHOOL ZONE CAMERA
EXPANSION OF $171,000.
THIS IS BECAUSE SDOT HAS
PROPOSED TO ADD FIVE NEW
LOCATIONS EVERY TIME THERE IS A
NEW SCHOOL ZONE CAMERA
LOCATION, IT REQUIRES OFFICERS
TO WORK ON OVERTIME, TO REVIEW
THE CITATIONS.
THE CAMERAS ACTUALLY SEND A
VIDEO TO A WEBPAGE, AND
OFFICERS REVIEW IT TO MAKE SURE
THERE WAS AN ACTUAL INFRACTION.
IF THERE IS, THEY ISSUE THE
TICKET.
THIS IS TO FUND THAT PIECE.
LASTLY, THERE IS A $2.6 MILLION
INVESTMENT TO REPLACE THE CAD
SYSTEM THAT'S CURRENTLY
OUTDATED, AND NEAR END OF ITS
LIFE.
IT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2008, AND
IT CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MANY
OF THE NEWEST FEATURES, LIKE
ENHANCED 911, AND LOCATION
INFO, SO THAT'S A QUICK RUNDOWN
OF THE ADS IN THE MAYOR'S
BUDGET.
AS I SAID, THEY ADD UP TO $6.4
MILLION IN NEW GENERAL FUNDS,
AND WITH THAT, I AM READY TO GO
INTO ISSUE NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS
STAFFING.
>> COUNCILMEMBER FELIZ?
>> I WILL JUST GIVE YOU A
RUNDOWN OF MY ISSUES.
THE FIRST IS POLICE STAFFING.
THE SECOND IS RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION WITH AN UPDATE
ON THE STAFFING PICTURE IN 2019
, MY HOPE IS THAT I CAN GIVE
YOU SOME CONTEXT FOR THE SALARY
SAVINGS CUTS THAT ARE MADE BOTH
IN THE 19 BUDGET AND 20 BUDGET
AND I WILL START BY POINTING TO
THE POINT TO MY LEFT.
PLUS THE 12th 2018, AND WHAT
YOU WILL BE THERE IS A STORY I
THINK THAT YOU'RE PRETTY
FAMILIAR WITH, AND LAST YEAR,
THERE WERE SOME RETENTION AND
RECRUITMENT ISSUES THAT
RESULTED IN A -41 OFFICERS
LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT WAS QUITE A DEPARTURE
FROM PRIOR YEARS AS COUNCIL
MEMBER GONZALES HAS NOTED IN
OTHER PRESENTATIONS, ONE OF THE
BIGGEST REASONS IS THE
SEPARATION RATE INCREASED
DRAMATICALLY FROM, AS YOU CAN
SEE 79 IN 2000 IN 2018 TO 109
AND 2018.
AND IT IS FOR THAT REASON THAT
THE FUTURE HIRING PLANS, THE
ONES FOR THIS YEAR AND FOR NEXT
YEAR, ASSUME A TOTAL OF 90 AND
91 SEPARATIONS.
AGAIN, QUITE HIGH, WHEN
COMPARED WITH THE HISTORICAL
SEPARATIONS THAT YOU CAN SEE ON
THE LEFT.
SO NOW I'M GOING TO TALK LITTLE
BIT ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE THIS
YEAR, AND THAT IS A CHART ON
THE RIGHT.
AND THE FIRST COLUMN, ORIGINAL
PROJECTIONS ARE AUGUST, WE HAVE
INFORMATION ON HIRING THROUGH
AUGUST, AND THAT IS THE ACTUAL,
THE ACTUAL IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN
AND OF COURSE THE DIFFERENCE SO
THE FIRST RING I WOULD
HIGHLIGHT THAT YOU CAN HE IS
THAT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE
DEPARTMENT IS KEEPING UP WITH
ITS TARGETS ON RECRUITS.
THEY HAD HOPED TO HAVE A FEW
RECRUITS THERE AUGUST, 56
THROUGH AUGUST AND THEY HAVE
THE RECORDS, SO THAT IS
EXTREMELY POSITIVE, ESPECIALLY
WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2018, THE
ENTIRE YEAR THAT THEY HAD, 59.
THE LATERALS, NOT QUITE AS
WELL, THEY HAD HOPED TO HAVE 15,
BY THIS TIME IN THE YEAR OR BY
AUGUST, I SHOULD SAY.
THEY HAD EIGHT, AND SO THEY ARE
SEVEN BEHIND.
AND WHAT GOT A COUPLE OF
REHIRE'S, AND WHEN YOU FACTOR IN
SEPARATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE
YOU WILL AT THE BOTTOM, THE
BOTTOM LINE, THE NET CHANGES
THAT THROUGH AUGUST, AGAINST
THE PROJECTIONS OREGON'S THE
PLAN, WE ARE ONE OFFICER DOWN.
COUNSEL NEVER GONZCEZ HAS
MENTIONED THAT POSITIONS.
>> I WANT TO TAKE A QUICK PAUSE
HERE, IF WE CAN.
CHAIR BAGSHAW, IF YOU ALLOW ME
TO MAKE A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS.
I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S EFFORTS IN
THIS SPACE, TO REALLY FOCUS ON
SOME STRATEGIES THAT COULD HELP
IN HIRING NEW OFFICERS.
I BELIEVE THAT THE ACTION OF
THE CITY COUNCIL TOOK TO NOT
JUST FOCUS ON LATERAL HIRES, TO
THE HIRING INCENTIVE, BUT TO
ADD A PROGRAM, A BONUS PROGRAM,
SPECIFICALLY FOR NEW HIRES AS
WELL, HAS REALLY HELPED US TURN
THIS TREND AROUND IN A WAY THAT
IS VERY POSITIVE, SO I WANT TO
THANK THE CATS NUMBERS WHO
SUPPORTED THE HIRING BONUS
PROGRAM TO NOT JUST INCLUDE
LATERALS BUT ALSO INCLUDE NEW
HIRES, I THINK IT IS MAKING A
BIG DIFFERENCE COME YOU KNOW,
THEY ARE STILL EVALUATING THE
REASONS WHY WE ARE EXPERIENCING
POSITIVE NUMBERS IN THE NEW
HIRES COLUMN, BUT I'M HOPEFUL
THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT HELPED, AND I THINK, YOU
KNOW, GREG WILL GET TO THE PART
WHERE WE ARE STILL FACING SOME
CHALLENGES AND THAT IS IN THE
RETENTION CATEGORY, HOW DO WE
KEEP OFFICERS FROM GOING TO
OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
I THINK THAT IS STILL ON TREND,
UNFORTUNATELY, WITH WHAT WE ARE
SEEING NATIONALLY, SO THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
NOT AN OUTLIER WITH REGARD TO
THE NUMBERS AND THE DATA THAT
WE ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW,
THANKS TO GREG'S ANALYSIS, AND
THE COOPERATION OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BUT I REALLY WANT TO
COMMEND THE FOLKS WHO FOCUS ON
THIS WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT,
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE
TO POSITION THE DEPARTMENT IN
THE BEST POSITION POSSIBLE TO
HIRE SOME GOOD PEOPLE TO COME
IN AND BE PART OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND I AM HOPEFUL
THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO THE
THE TREND MOVING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT
UP.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT
BEFORE.
I WILL CONFESS THAT I HAD A BIT
OF SKEPTICISM THAT IT WOULD DO
THE TRICK, BUT IT SEEMS TO HAVE
HAVE HELPED, SO THAT WAS A GOOD
STRATEGY.
>> SEVERE WEATHER GOOD THINGS I
SHOULD ALSO MENTION THE IMPACT
ON PATROL STAFFING HAVE BEEN
RELATIVELY GOOD, ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE TRY TO DO WHEN
THEY'RE CONFRONTED WITH
STAFFING CHALLENGES IS TO KEEP
THE NUMBER OF 911 WAS WANDERS
THE SAME, IF POSSIBLE SO THEY
ARE NOT DEGRADING RESPONSE
TIMES OR SERVICE, AND THEY HAVE
DONE THAT.
AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, THEY
WERE ABLE TO HOLD 911 WAS
WANDERS AT 538, AND SO THERE
SHOULD BE NO DEGRADATION IN
RESPONSE TIME, AND SERVICE TO
THE PUBLIC.
THERE IS A CUT TO OTHER PATROL
OFFICERS, NOT A CUT, BUT THEY
ARE DOWN BY ABOUT 17 OFFICERS,
WHEN IT COMES TO FOOT BEATS AND
CRIME PREVENTION TEAM OFFICERS.
IT IS THE CASE WHERE WE ARE
GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE OVERTIME EMPHASIS PATROL
THAT WAS DONE OVER THE SUMMER,
IT IS LIKELY THE CASE THAT THE
OVERTIME EMPHASIS PATROL'S ARE
BACKFILLING FOR THE LOSS OF
OFFICERS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
HAVING BEEN TEAM VIEWER IN FOOD
BEAT AND COMMUNITY POLICE
TEAMS, AND SO, THAT IS A
STRATEGIC USE OF OVERTIME TO
MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOT A
LOSS OF STREET STRENGTH.
SO THE DEPARTMENT HAS OBVIOUSLY
KEPT A PRIORITY TO MAKE SURE
THAT BOTH IT'S 911 RESPONDERS
AND IT'S STREET STRENGTH, THE
FOLKS THAT ENGAGE WITH THE
PUBLIC, ARE, THEY STILL HAVE A
CAPACITY THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
>> COUNSEL NUMBER O'BRIEN.
>> I KNOW THAT TRYING TO MAKE
THE MATH ALL RECONCILED MAY NOT
WORK EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THE
FLOWS BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK
THE QUESTION, THOUGH IF THE
PREVIOUS CHART SHOWS THE NET
CHANGE TO DATE WAS DOWN SIX, AND
911 RESPONSES HAVE BEEN HELD,
BUT WE'VE LOST 17, DOES THAT
MEAN THERE IS +11 SOMEWHERE OR
IS THE REALITY THAT SOME OF
THESE FOLKS, THE NUMBERS ARE
HOLD, AND THEY ARE STILL MULTI-
YOUR TRAINING PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTED HERE?
>> JUST TO CLARIFY ON THE
CHART, WE ARE ACTUALLY DOWN
ONLY ONE.
WE HAD PROJECTED AND HOPED THAT
THEY HAD PROJECTED AND HOPED
THAT THEY WOULD GET, THEY WOULD
BE FIVE AHEAD BY THIS TIME OF
THE YEAR.
AND THEY ARE NOT.
BUT THE ONE IS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE FOLKS THAT ARE
LEAVING, AND THE FOLKS THAT
THEY ARE HIRING.
SO IF IT WERE PERFECT, THAT
WOULD BE A ZERO.
IF WE WERE DOING BETTER, THEN
YOU HAVE A POSITIVE NUMBER
THERE.
BUT IN TERMS OF, ARE YOU ASKING
WHERE THE OTHER REDUCTIONS ARE
BESIDE THE 17?
>> CORRECT, IF WE ARE
ESSENTIALLY JUST DOWN ONE BUT
WE HAVE HAD 17 REDUCTIONS HERE,
DOES THAT MEAN THERE IS AN
INCREASE SOMEWHERE ELSE?
>> YEAH, THERE ARE GOING TO BE
REDUCTIONS THAT WILL BE HELD
OUT SIDE OF PATROL, THEY WILL
BE SOME THAT IT, THEY ARE IN
THE SPECIAL TEAMS.
THE 41 OFFICERS NET FROM LAST
YEAR, THOSE VACANCIES ARE GOING
TO BE HELD IN OTHER PLACES.
SO SPEAKING OF VACANCIES, I
WILL GO TO THE VACANCY CUTS, IF
THAT IS ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE BEST WAY THAT
I CAN DESCRIBE THIS IS THAT IN
2018, WHEN THE -41 OFFICERS WAS
HAPPENING, OF COURSE, THAT
HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR,
AT THE SUMMER FORECAST, AND WHEN
THE DEPARTMENT WAS LOOKING FOR
WORDS, THEY KNEW AT THAT POINT
IN TIME, THAT THERE WAS A
DOWNTURN, AND THAT THEY WERE
GOING TO HAVE NET SEPARATION, A
NEGATIVE NET SEPARATION, AND
THE COUNCIL KNEW IT, TOO, AND
SO, THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR
TOGETHER IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET
TO THE SALARY SAVINGS CUT OF
ABOUT 1.3 MILLION.
WHAT HAPPENED, AS THINGS KEPT
GETTING WORSE, AND AS MORE
OFFICERS LEFT, THROUGH THE
FALL, AND INTO THE WINTER,
THERE WAS MORE SALARY SAVINGS
THAT BECAME AVAILABLE.
AND WHAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW, IN
THE 2019 THIRD QUARTER
SUPPLEMENTAL IS AN ATTEMPT TO
GRAB THAT LAST FOR THE SALARY
SAVINGS, IN 2019, THAT WON'T BE
NEEDED BECAUSE THOSE OFFICERS
LAST YEAR HAD VACATED THEIR
POSITIONS AND THOSE POSITIONS
ARE STILL VACANT.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR
STAFFING DISCUSSION EARLIER, WE
COME OF THE DEPARTMENT, HAS NOT
CAUGHT UP YET, SO.
>> SO THE 6.2 MILLION FOR
VACANCY SAVINGS, AND THE 2020
PROPOSED?
WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH AT $6.2
MILLION?
>> WELL, PART OF THAT, I WAS
GOING TO GET TO.
>> NOT THAT I WANTED, BUT.
>> PART OF THAT IS STILL THE
2018 POSITIONS, THEY ARE STILL
VACANT, AND THEY ASSUME THAT
THEY WILL STILL BE VACATED IN
2020 BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO
, THE DEPARTMENT WILL NOT CATCH
UP FAST ENOUGH, AND PART OF IT
IS, IF YOU GO BACK TO, IF I GO
BACK HERE TO THE PERFORMANCE,
SO FAR THIS YEAR, YOU, AND I
WILL GO BACK TO THAT LATERAL
LINE, AND USE THIS AS AN
EXAMPLE, THE DEPARTMENT
ACTUALLY HAD MONEY TO HIRE 15
LATERALS.
AND THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT, AS
DISCUSSED.
THEIR SEVEN DOWN, SO WHAT THE
MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET DOES IS
IT TAKES THE SALARY FOR THOSE
SEVEN, AND IT, IT CAPTURES THAT
SALARY AS PART OF THE 2019
THIRD QUARTER SUPPLEMENTAL
ADJUSTMENT.
AND OF COURSE, SINCE WE ARE
STILL CATCHING UP, THE
DEPARTMENT IS STILL CATCHING
UP, THEY KNOW THAT THE SALARY
FOR THOSE SEVEN WON'T BE NEEDED
IN 2020, EITHER.
AND SO THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE
CAPTURING, WITH THE 6.2 MILLION
FOR VACANCY SAVINGS.
>> SO I KNOW WE ARE HIRING
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS, AND
THE MAYOR HAS RECOMMENDED
EXPANDING THAT, WHICH I THINK
IS TERRIFIC.
BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT EVERY
NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS.
THEY LIKE TO HAVE A FACE, A
FAMILIAR AND DIFFERENTLY FACE.
IS THERE ANY THOUGHT ABOUT
DOING MORE OF THAT TO FILL SOME
OF THE, KIND OF THE EMPTY
STREET, MPTY BEAT OFFICERS? I
KNOW THEYCAN'T DO THE SAME
KINDS OF THINGS, BUT WE DO SEE
THAT THERE IS A SENSE OF SAFETY
AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHEN
WE HAVE THESE TYPES OF OFFICE
OTHERS OUTSIDE AND AVAILABLE
FOR PEOPLE TO TALK TO.
>> ABSOLUTELY, AND I THINK THAT
IS WHAT THE CHIEF IS TRYING TO
DO BY SPENDING ADDITIONAL
FUNDING ON EMPHASIS PATROL'S.
IS TO HAVE THE VISIBILITY OF
OFFICERS WORKING WITH THE
PUBLIC.
CSO WILL ALSO BE WORKING WITH
OFFICERS AND WITH SERVICE
PROVIDERS, JUST IN A DIFFERENT
WAY.
>> IF I CAN, I THINK YOUR
QUESTION AROUND HOW ARE WE
BENDING THE SALARY SAVINGS IS A
VERY GOOD ONE, AND WE HAVE BEEN
SPENDING SOME TIME DIGGING INTO
THAT AS WELL.
AND MY INTEREST DANCING OF HOW
THOSE DOLLARS HAVE BEEN
REAPPROPRIATED OR PROPOSED TO
BE REAPPROPRIATED, IS IN
SEVERAL WAYS, ONE IS TO SUPPORT
AN ADDITIONAL EXPANSION OF THE
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER
PROGRAM, WHICH GREG ALREADY
HIGHLIGHTED AS PART OF THE COME
YOU KNOW, PROPOSED CHANGES
BETWEEN THE ENDORSED AND WHAT
WE HAVE BEFORE US, SO THAT IS
$1.2 MILLION TO GO FROM THE
ORIGINAL 12 TO 18 COMMITTEE
SERVICE OFFICERS, SO THAT IS
PART OF THE RE-APPROPRIATION.
THE OTHER PART WOULD BE TO
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE
EMPHASIS PATROL'S, THAT IS
ANOTHER $840,000 TICKET ITEM IT
ADDITIONALLY TO THAT WOULD BE
TO SUPPORT THE RECRUITMENT
INITIATIVES AS PROPOSED BY THE
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
REPORT TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT ONE
POINT INITIATIVES AS PROPOSED
BY THE RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION REPORT TO THE TUNE OF
ABOUT $1.1 MILLION, AND THEN,
ON TOP OF THAT, SUPPORTING THE
NURSE HELP LINE, THE NURSE HELP
LINE AND THERE ARE FIVE, I
BELIEVE FIVE NURSES THAT ARE
GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AT FIVE
DIFFERENT PRECINCTS, AND THAT
IS ALSO BEING FUNDED BY THE 6.2
MILLION BE FUNDED THROUGH THE
6.2 MILLION-DOLLAR SALARY
SAVINGS.
BUT I THINK IT IS, IT IS NOT
ALL GONE BECAUSE IT HAS NOT
BEEN SPENT, BUT THE MAYOR HAS
PROPOSED THE IDEAS OF HOW TO
SUSPEND THAT.
WE HAVE THE DISCRETION UNDER
YOUR LEADERSHIP, CHAIR, TO MAKE
DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER WE
AGREE WITH THE PROPOSED
EXPENDITURES OR WHETHER WE HAVE
OTHER PRIORITIES, OR WE WANT TO
SHIFT THOSE DOLLARS AROUND TO
TIP THE BALANCE TOWARD SOME OF
THOSE PROGRAMS, MORE THAN
OTHERS BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS
THAT SORT OF REPRESENTS, IN A
VERY ROUGH CUT WAY, AS I
DESCRIBED IT.
ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT
WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THIS
BUDGET.
>> THANK YOU.
BACK TO YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO AS
COUNCILMEMBER GONZCEZ
MENTIONED, THERE ARE A LOT OF
BIG-TICKET ITEMS THAT ARE
FUNDED IN THE SPD BUDGET, IT
COMES OUT TO ABOUT 6.4 MILLION.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
INITIATIVES, THERE ARE NUMBER
OF DIFFERENT, A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT INITIATIVES WITHIN
THIS PROGRAM, AND I CAN, I'M
GOING TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THAT
, WHAT YOU WILL SEE BEFORE YOU
IS THAT THERE IS ABOUT 120
102,000 DEVOTED TO RECRUITMENT,
WHICH IS THAT FIRST RECRUITMENT
THERE, THERE HIRING
IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT IS A
PROCESS OF MAKING THE HIRING
PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT, AND
FASTER. SO THAT THE DEPARTMENT
DOESN'T LOSE CANDIDATES, AS
THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEM IN
THE DOOR.
THERE IS AN $843,000 INVESTMENT
AND RETENTION.
AND THAT IS SORT OF THE THIRD
TIER THERE AND THE FOURTH TIER
-- CAN ASK A QUICK QUESTION?
>> TELL ME WHAT STEP INTO OUR
SHOES IS.
>> THESE ARE THE NAMES OF THE
VARIOUS INITIATIVES.
I'M HAVING TO GO THROUGH THEM
BRIEFLY, OR --
>> JUST A COUPLE OF SENTENCES.
>> ON THE RETENTION MY CARD, TH
OR A REPORT OF BIAS, EXCESSIVE
FORCE, VARIOUS CHARGES THAT
HAVE BROUGHT AGAINST OFFICERS.
AND IN SEVERAL -- AND QUITE A
FEW INSTANCES THOSE ARE
UNSUBSTANTIATED.
AND WHEN THEY ARE THROUGH THE
INVESTIGATION PROCESS, THROUGH
OPA, IF THEY ARE FOUND TO BE
UNSUBSTANTIATED THEN WHAT THE
DEPARTMENT IS SAYING THEY
SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF YOUR
FILES.
SO TO SPEAK.
AND THIS WOULD BE AN EFFORT TO
DO JUST THAT.
THE $10,000 IS A SOFTWARE THAT
WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THERE
WAS AN UNSUBSTANTIATED
COMPLAINT, THAT IT WAS TAKEN
OUT.
>> THEN GREG, IT WOULD BE
SUBJECT TO THE RECORDS,
RETENTION, REQUIREMENTS UNDER
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
ORDINANCE.
RIGHT?
IN OTHER WORDS IT ISN'T PURGED
FOREVER.
IT JUST GOES AWAY FROM THIS PART
OF THE OFFICERS' FILE THAT IS
OFTEN TIMES RELIED UPON FOR
PURPOSES OF MAKING DECISIONS
ABOUT PERFORMANCE AND
PROMOTIONS.
>> I WOULD GUESS THAT IS TRUE.
>> LET'S CONFIRM THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING THE WAY IT WAS
DESCRIBED IN COMMITTEE WAS THAT
THIS WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON A
VERY NARROW AREA.
AND THAT THERE WOULD STILL BE
RECORD RETENTION REQUIREMENTS
BOTH UNDER THE PUBLIC
DISCLOSURE ACT AND CERTAINLY
UNDER ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE.
I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS
ISN'T PUTTING UP AGAINST THAT.
IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT
THERE HAS BEEN AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY AND POLICE
UNION ON RECORDS RETENTION
ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO THESE
TYPES OF COMPLAINTS.
WHETHER THEY ARE SUBSTANTIATED
OR NOT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> SHOULD I GO THROUGH --
>> LET'S KEEP MOVING ON.
THANK YOU.
>> DO YOU WANT ME TO HIT THE
BIG ONES?
OR JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
ISSUE?
>> NEXT ISSUE, PLEASE.
>> OKAY.
THE NEXT ISSUE IS EMPHASIS
PATROLS.
WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU --
>> HANG ON.
I DON'T THINK YOU QUEUED UP THE
OPTIONS FOR THIS ONE.
>> I WOULD THE OPTIONS AT THE
END.
>> OKAY.
I CAN DO IT NOW.
>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU OFF
THE PRESENTATION.
I WAS FOLLOWING THE MEMO AND
OPTIONS WAS NEXT.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
OPTION NUMBER 1 WOULD BE TO
REQUEST SOME KIND OF
IMPLEMENTATION REPORT.
I HAVE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE A
JUNE 1 DEADLINE WOULD BE GOOD
BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF
INFORMATION THAT WILL BE COMING
FROM THE EXECUTIVE ON THE
RECRUITMENT BONUSES.
AND IT MIGHT ALSO BE A GOOD
TIME TO HEAR WHETHER OR NOT THE
INITIATIVES BEFORE YOU ARE
HAVING ANY SUCCESS.
ANOTHER OPTION IS TO NOT FUND
ONE OR MORE OF THE POTENTIAL
INITIATIVES.
COUNCILMEMBER HAD ONE AS AN
OPTION AND A THIRD WOULD BE TO
DO NOTHING.
>> OKAY.
I THINK ASKING FOR REPORT AND
IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE GOOD.
WHEN WE HEARD THIS ISSUE IN MY
COMMITTEE, ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I APPRECIATED WAS THAT THE
OVERALL RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION STRATEGIES REPORT
ACTUALLY HAD SOME DELIVERABLES,
QUARTER BY QUARTER.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT COMPLETELY
ALIGNS WITH THE JUNE 1
PROPOSAL.
THAT I DO THINK THAT
CONCEPTUALLY AND IMPLEMENTATION
REPORT TO PROVIDE TO CITY
COUNCIL PROVIDES ADDITIONAL
INSIGHT INTO HOW THE DEPARTMENT
INTENDS TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF
THESE PROPOSALS.
IT IS IMPORTANT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ON SOME
OF THESE WE HAVE SCANT DETAILS
ABOUT THE ACTUAL PARTICULARS OF
SOME OF THESE PROPOSALS.
AND I WOULD HOPE THE
IMPLEMENTATION REPORT COULD
GIVE US THOSE ADDITIONAL
DETAILS AS WELL.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT A VARIATION
OF OPTION A.
>> YOU WANT AN OPTION?
>> YEAH, I JUST -- I'M NOT SURE
THAT THE JUNE 1, 2019 WORKS FOR
ALL OF THESE.
AS I THINK THEY HAVE THEM ON A
PHASED SCHEDULE IN TERMS OF
SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES.
I WOULD WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO
WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IN TERMS OF
HOW THEY INTEND TO FACE THE
WORK IN.
>> THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING
WE CAN ASK THE DEPARTMENT. WHAT
THEY WOULD THINK WOULD BE AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> SO THE EMPHASIS PATROLS, I'M
CALLING IT THE EIGHTH
NEIGHBORHOOD EMPHASIS PATROLS.
THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ALKI,
PIONEER SQUARE, SOTO,
GEORGETOWN, SOUTHPARK, FREMONT
AND BALLARD.
FINALLY THE PIKE PINE CORRIDOR.
THOSE WERE EMPHASIS THAT STARTED
AT PRE-SUMMER IN MAY OF THIS
YEAR.
AND THE MAYOR CONTINUED
THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.
AND THE EMPHASIS PATROLS HAVE
BEEN COUPLED WITH OTHER WORK BY
OTHER SEATTLE DEPARTMENTS
AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE TO
ADDRESS MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND
FINALLY TO PROVIDE OUTREACH TO
HUMAN SERVICES TO VARIOUS
COMMUNITIES.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN TABLE
NUMBER 5, THIS IS A TABLE THAT
SHOWS ALL OF THE OVERTIME THAT
WAS USED IN ALL OF THE EMPHASIS
PATROLS THROUGH THE SUMMER.
AND THE EIGHTH NEIGHBORHOOD
PATROL I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
IS THE LARGEST COMPONENT.
THAT IS THE $1.6 MILLION.
THAT IS WHAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS
SPENT THIS YEAR ON THAT
SERVICE.
OTHER EMPHASIS PATROLS AROUND
CAPITOL HILL, AROUND NIGHTLIFE,
AROUND THE CENTRAL DISTRICT,
ANTIVIOLENCE, THOSE ARE ALL
LUMP INTO THE SECOND LINE.
WHICH IS THE $290,000 FOR A
TOTAL OF $1.9 MILLION THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HAS SPENT ON
EMPHASIS PATROLS THIS YEAR.
>> GREAT.
AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, AND LOOK
AT OPTIONS, I REALLY WANT -- I
HAVE RAISED THIS MULTIPLE
TIMES.
MY CONSTITUENTS IN PIONEER
SQUARE AND THE PIKE PINE
CORRIDOR COULD SAY NOTHING BUT
GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE OFFICERS,
WHERE THEY WERE AND HOW THEY
WERE RESPONDING AND CARING FOR
PEOPLE.
AND THE ONLY THING I'VE HEARD
IS THAT MORE OF THIS WOULD BE
APPRECIATED BY FOLKS THAT LIVE
AND WORK IN THIS AREA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WILL PAY
FOR GOING FORWARD.
BUT I WANT TO PUT A BOOKMARK IN
HERE THAT I THINK IT IS PRETTY
POSITIVE.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD
ADDITIONALLY THAT THIS IS A
POINT I MADE EARLIER IN THE
SUMMER.
DURING THE COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALES' COMMITTEE.
IN NORTH SEATTLE, THE NUMBER 1
REAL CRIME RATE AND PERCEIVED
CRIME RATE WAS HIGHEST IN THE
DISTRICT.
ADDITIONALLY THE THIRD LARGEST
HATE CRIME RATE WAS IN THE U
DISTRICT.
GIVEN THAT THE CITY AS WELL AS
THE REGION MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR
INVESTMENT IN LIGHT RAIL WOULD
HAVE HEARD CONSISTENTLY THROUGH
CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY HAD REAL
ANXIETIES AND FEARS ABOUT GOING
TO THE SO I FLAGGED AS AN AREA
OF INTEREST IN COMMITTEE.
AND I CONTINUE TO FLAG IT AS AN
ISSUE OF INTEREST BECAUSE NOT
ONLY IS IT GOOD PUBLIC POLICY
FOR US OUR POLICY FOR US TO
FOCUS AND ADDRESS WHAT I THINK
ARE SOME OF THE NECESSARY
INSTRUCTION INVESTMENTS.
BUT ALSO JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT
I HAD SAID DURING COMMITTEE AND
TO SHARE IT WITH ALL OF YOU AS
WELL.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOU.
GO AHEAD.
>> WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT
IS THAT THIS IS SUSPENDING IN
2019.
THE $1.6 MILLION TO C FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD EMPHASIS PATROLS,
IF THAT WAS TO BE CONTINUED IN
2020 AT THAT SAME LEVEL, $1.6
MILLION THE DEPARTMENT WOULD
NEED THE OUT OF $848,000.
OF THE COUNCIL DECIDED NOT TO
MAKE THAT AD OF $840,000, THAT
WOULD REDUCE BY APPROXIMATELY
HALF THE FUNDING THAT WOULD BE
AVAILABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD
EMPHASIS PATROL.
OR OTHER PATROLS.
I SHOULD NOTE THAT THIS IS
FUNGIBLE OVER TIME.
IT CAN BE USED FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD PATROLS OR IF
SOMETHING HAPPENS NEXT YEAR
THAT THE CHIEF URGENTLY NEEDS
TO ATTEND TO, SHE CAN REDIRECT
THAT TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
OR 2 OTHER ACTIVITIES.
BUT IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T FUND
THE $848,000 THAT WILL REDUCE
CAPACITY HERE.
>> I'VE GOT CLARITY HERE,
OPTION B IS BY COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT'S PROPOSAL, WOULD THAT
ELIMINATE MONEY FOR THE
EMPHASIS PATROLS ENTIRELY?
>> THAT WOULD NOT FUND THE
$848,000.
AND IT WOULD TAKE THE 1.6
NUMBER UP BY -- DOWN BY
APPROXIMATELY HALF IN TERMS OF
ABILITY TO SPEND.
>> GREG, WALK ME THROUGH HOW
THAT WORKS.
BECAUSE EMPHASIS PATROLS IS JUST
-- YOU KNOW, A TERM OF ART FOR
OVER TIME.
IS THE PROPOSAL TO REDUCE -- OF
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT'S PROPOSAL
TO EFFECTIVELY REDUCE THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENTS OVERTIME
BUDGET BY THIS AMOUNT?
>> NOT EXACTLY.
I THINK I CAN ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
>> I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU TO
THAT GREG.
>> I'M SORRY?
>> I SAID I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU
TO THAT.
[ LAUGHING ]
>> WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE AND
I'M GOING TO STEP BACK AND DO
SOME EDUCATION.
I APOLOGIZE.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THE
OVERTIME ACTUAL HOURS TO
BUDGETED HOURS.
AND THE BUDGET IS THE GRAY
LINE.
THAT IS LOWER.
AND THE ACTUAL IS THE LINE THAT
IS RED THAT IS HIGHER.
AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE -- I CAN
SEE IF THIS WORKS.
HERE WE GO.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE PRIOR YEARS,
IN THE SUMMER TIMES, JUNE AND
JULY, IN EACH OF THE LAST 2
YEARS, THE EXPENDITURES HAVE
GONE IN EXCESS OF THE BUDGET
FOR OVER TIME.
AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IS
THE DEPARTMENT IS USING SALARY
SAVINGS THAT IT HAS THE VACANT
POSITIONS TO BE ABLE TO FUND
THE OVERTIME FOR THOSE
ACTIVITIES.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED THIS
YEAR HERE.
WHERE THEY GOT TO THE SUMMER
TIME AND NEEDED TO FUND THE
EMPHASIS PATROLS AND DIDN'T
QUITE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO BE
ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND THEREFORE THEY GOT THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GRAY
LINE AND THE REDLINE FROM
SALARY SAVINGS.
THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU HAVE
SEEN TO THE SALARY SAVINGS
EARLIER TODAY, IS GOING TO
IMPACT THEIR ABILITY TO DO THAT.
SO THEY HAVE CUT SALARY SAVINGS
KIND OF DOWN TO THE BONE AND
WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IF THEY'RE
GOING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE
NEXT YEAR, THAT $1.6 MILLION
LEVEL THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
HAVE AN AD OF $848,000.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT PART,
GREG.
I GUESS I'M JUST SAYING IF
THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO CUT
$848,000 FOR EMPHASIS PATROLS
IN PARTICULAR, REALLY AT THE
END OF THE DAY WHAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT IS REDUCING THE
APPROPRIATED OVERTIME BUDGET BY
$848,000.
BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY
COMES FROM.
>> I THINK THE MONEY CAME LAST
YEAR FROM SALARY SAVINGS.
>> I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
>> THAT SALARY SAVINGS IS NOW
TAKEN.
SO THEY WOULD NEED AN AD OF
$848,000 TO DELIVER THE SAME
SERVICE.
AND COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT'S
PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO NOT GIVE
THAT AD.
IN THAT CASE THEY WOULD BE ABLE
TO DO 768 TO $800,000.
>> OKAY.
I THOUGHT THE $848,000 WITH
EFFECTIVELY MAINTAINING THE
STATUS QUO.
AM I HEARING YOU SAY THAT THE
ADDITIONAL $848,000 WOULD
ACTUALLY EXPAND THE EMPHASIS
PATROL PROGRAM?
>> THE $848,000 IS NEEDED TO
MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO.
THE STATUS QUO LAST YEAR WAS
GOTTEN BY USE OF SALARY
SAVINGS.
SINCE THE SALARY SAVINGS ARE
NOW GONE, THE ONLY WAY TO
MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO IS TO
ADD OVER TIME FUNDING.
>> FROM THE GENERAL FUND?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> GOT IT.
>> THERE'S A SORT OF SYNERGY
BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND --
BETWEEN OVER TIME AND SALLY
SAVINGS AND AS FAR AS WHEN
THERE ARE SALARY SAVINGS IT IS
USEFUL TO USE THE SALARY
SAVINGS FOR OVERTIME TO
BACKFILL FOR PATROL AND OTHER
FOOT BEATS WE HAVE TALKED
ABOUT.
AND JUST GENERAL EMPHASIS.
>> OKAY.
>> MOVING ON TO THE LAST ISSUE.
WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY SERVICE
OFFICERS.
WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS A
VERY COMPLICATED TABLE THAT I'M
NOT GOING TO GO IN TO.
I PUT HERE TO MAKE THE POINT IT
HAS BEEN A LONG ROAD TO GET THE
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS TO
THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE GETTING
CLOSE TO BEING HIRED.
AND COULD BE ON BOARD BY THE
END OF DECEMBER.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE 12
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS THAT
WERE FUNDED.
REALLY, THE SEEDS FOR FUNDING
WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2017.
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS
THERE HAVE BEEN A SERIES OF RE-
APPROPRIATIONS AND THERE HAS
BEEN A SERIES OF SIDES PROVIDING
TO ASK THE DEPARTMENT FOR MORE
INFORMATION.
THEY LAUNCHED A REALLY -- A
PRETTY EXPENSIVE EFFORT WITH
COMMUNITY TO TRY AND HELP DEFINE
EVERYTHING FROM WHAT THE
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS
WOULD WEAR TO WHERE THEY WOULD
BE STATIONED, WHAT KIND OF
HOURS THEY WOULD WORK.
SO IT HAS BEEN DELIVERED OF --
A DELIBERATE PROCESS TO FIGURE
OUT HOW THOSE FOLKS WOULD WORK.
AND NOW IT IS DONE, AND THE
COUNCILS RECEIVE THE
INFORMATION, THEY ARE READY TO
PULL THE TRIGGER.
>> WE DON'T LIKE TO USE THAT.
>> WE DON'T LIKE TO USE THAT
PHRASE.
>> I'M SORRY.
>> YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT
ANYMORE?
>> AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY
LONG EFFORT.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER
O'BRIEN FOR HIS ONGOING
DEDICATION TO CHAMPIONING THIS
WORK.
AND TO REALLY MAKING SURE THAT
AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE
PROGRAM IS OCCURRING THAT WE
WERE INCLUDING IMPORTANT
STAKEHOLDERS.
BOTH HISTORICALLY SPEAKING,
THOSE THAT ENGAGE WITH THE CSO
PROGRAM IN THE PAST AND CURRENT
STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE PROBABLY
NEWER TO THE CONVERSATION
AROUND CSO.
AND REALLY, REALLY THANKFUL TO
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL
OF THOSE WHO ENGAGED IN THAT.
THE PROCESS FOR COMING UP WITH
A PROGRAM THAT I THINK WE CAN
ALL BE VERY PROUD OF.
IF I HAD ONE THING TO COMPLAIN
ABOUT, IT IS THAT THEY ARE NOT
HIRED AND ALREADY OUT IN THE
FIELD.
YOU KNOW IT IS TAKING US AN
EXTRAORDINARILY LONG TIME TO
GET THIS JUST GOING.
SO I'M EAGER TO SEE THESE FOLKS
ACTUALLY BE HIRED AND TRAINED
AND IN THE FIELD. I THINK IT IS
GOING TO BE A POTENTIAL GAME
CHANGER IN TERMS OF HOW WE
APPROACH PUBLIC SAFETY AND WILL
LEAD TO MORE POSITIVE
OPPORTUNITIES.
>> I SO AGREE AND I WANT TO
MAKE SURE IT IS ADEQUATELY
FUNDED.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP FOR
IT.
>> SO I WOULD SAY THE MAIN
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 12 THAT
ARE COMING ON BOARD AT THE END
OF THE YEAR, IS THAT THE
DEPLOYMENT, IF THEY, BY
THEMSELVES AND THE MAYOR'S ADD
OF 6 MORE DOESN'T HAPPEN, IF IT
IS JUST THE 12 THEY WILL WORK
TWO DIFFERENT SHIPS.
ONE ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY
AND THE SECOND TUESDAY THROUGH
SATURDAY.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE HOUSED
DOWNTOWN ACROSS THE STREET.
AND RESPONSE CITYWIDE.
>> WHEN YOU SAY DOWNTOWN ACROSS
THE STREET?
>> THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS.
>> IF THERE WERE SIX MORE
ADDED, IF THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL
WERE ADOPTED, THEN THEY WOULD
DO THE CONFIGURATION A LITTLE
DIFFERENTLY.
THEY WOULD ASSIGN THE CSO TO
THE PRECINCT AND THEY WOULD BE
DEDICATED AND HOUSED IN THE
DIFFERENT PRECINCTS.
THAT IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE.
>> SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
ADDING SIX MORE SO WE WOULD
HAVE 18?
DIVIDED BY THE FIVE PRECINCTS.
WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THREE
IN EACH PRECINCT PLUS A FEW
SPARES.
ROUGHLY --
>> ROUGHLY THERE ARE A FEW
POSITIONS CONSIDERED
SUPERVISORS.
THEY WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE A
HEADQUARTERS I WOULD IMAGINE.
AND SORT OF DOING TRAFFIC
CONTROL, NOT -- THEY WOULD BE
MAKING SURE THAT THE WORK
ASSIGNMENTS ARE HAPPENING
ACCORDING TO PRECINCT NEED.
BUT GREG'S POINT IS AN
IMPORTANT ONE.
BECAUSE THE SCALING UP BEFORE
WE HAVE SCALED, THE CONSTRUCT
ISRAEL HERE.
SO WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO
DO ANYTHING TO CREATE FURTHER
DELAY IN TERMS OF STANDING UP
THE PROGRAM.
BUT I THINK HAVING THE CSO'S BE
ASSIGNED TO SPECIFIC PRECINCTS
BY A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, MAKES
A LOT OF SENSE.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL START TO
DEEPLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES
THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THOSE
PARTICULAR PRECINCT FOOTPRINTS.
AND REALLY I THINK YOU'LL BE
ABLE TO HAVE A BETTER RESULT AS
OPPOSED TO ROVING FOLKS ACROSS
THE CITY.
BUT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING WE CAN
DO -- I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE DONE
WHAT WE CAN DO FROM A CITY
COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE TO ENCOURAGE
A QUICK IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
PROGRAM.
EVEN IF IT IS 18 VERSUS 12.
AND IF I'M WRONG ON THAT, WE
WILL POINT OUT THAT EVERYTHING
IS BEING DONE TO IMPLEMENT THE
PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTATION.
>> I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF
PROCESS.
>> MORE THAN WE LIKED.
>> I THINK SUMMER HERE AT THIS
POINT FINALLY.
>> I'M ABOUT TO RECOMMEND MORE
PROCESS.
IT MAY BE THAT THE COUNCIL
WANTS TO REQUEST A MIDYEAR
REPORT ON 12 CSO'S AND HOW THEY
ARE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SINCE THEY ARE GOING TO BE OUT
THERE FIRST, ALTHOUGH THE
DEPARTMENT HAS SAID IF THEY GOT
THE ADDITIONAL SIX, THEY COULD
GET THEM ON BOARD PRETTY
QUICKLY TOO.
THEY HAVE ONE REALLY BIG BATCH
OF RESUMES THEY CAME IN.
AND THEY CONDUCTED A HOLISTIC
REVIEW.
AND COULD GET ALL OF THE
POTENTIALS ON QUICKLY.
THEY ARE HOLDING BACK ON THE
SIX TO MAKE SURE WHAT THE
COUNCIL DOES CHOOSES TO DO.
BUT EITHER WAY IF YOU WANT TO
ASK FOR REPORT NEXT YEAR TO SEE
HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
>> THAT IS VERY LIKELY.
AND ONE THING I WANT TO
GRADUALLY AND SAY THANK YOU ON
IS THAT AS WE ARE STRUGGLING TO
GET POLICE OFFICERS HIRED AND
TO RETAIN, TO HAVE THE NUMBERS
RIGHT THAT 700 APPLICANTS CAME
IN FOR THE CSO POSITIONS?
>> 1000.
>> AT LEAST.
>> WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE
PEOPLE INTERESTED IN GOING TO
WORK IN THESE POSITIONS.
AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE
UNDERSCORED.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO
DO THIS WORK AND THE COMMUNITY
REALLY WANTS FROM THERE.
SO FRANKLY I -- IF THERE'S
MONEY TO BE HAD, GOING FULL ON
18 WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
>> YOU ARE DOING CALISTHENICS.
>> I AM, EXACTLY.
>> GOOD NEWS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
BECAUSE THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED
BUDGET INCLUDES THE EXPANSION
FROM 12 TO 18.
>> AS LONG AS CERTAIN PROPOSALS
AND ACTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL
MEMBERS DON'T CUT IT OUT.
>> RIGHT, THERE'S THAT.
>> WITH THAT I WILL CONCLUDE
AND GO TO THE BUDGET ACTIONS
THAT ARE PROPOSED BY COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
THE FIRST ONE IS BY
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT A CUT OF
$3.3 MILLION.
AND WHAT SHE IS PROPOSING THERE
IS A CUT OF 3 OF THE ADS THAT
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
TODAY.
ONE WOULD BE THE $1.6 MILLION
IN RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT,
THE INITIATIVES THERE.
ONE WOULD BE THE $848,000, IN
MONEY THAT IS NEEDED TO -- OR
PROPOSE TO KEEP EMPHASIS
PATROLS AT THE SAME LEVEL.
AND THE FINAL ONE IS $814,000
WHICH IS TO MAINTAIN THE HIRING
BONUSES FOR LATERALS AND
RECRUITS THAT COME ON BOARD.
AND THE RATIONALE IS TO MAKE
THE $3.3 MILLION AVAILABLE TO
OTHER COUNSEL PRIORITIES.
THE SECOND ONE IS TO ADOPT A
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE
ATTEMPT THAT WOULD REQUIRE SPD
TO UNDERGO TRAINING RELATED TO
SEX WORKERS.
AND THAT IS SIMILAR IN BOTH
NUMBER 2 AND NUMBER 3. I THINK
THE INTENTION THERE IS SIMILAR.
AND I WILL ASK COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALES TO SPEAK TO HER
PROPOSAL.
>> GREAT.
THIS WOULD BE A STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT TO REQUEST
THAT THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT UNDERGO TRAINING
RELATED TO SEX WORKERS.
WE HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT
WHAT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN A
CHANGE IN POLICY FROM THE
SEATTLE PLEASE DEPARTMENT IN
TERMS OF ARRESTS VERSUS
DIVERSION.
OF SEX WORKERS.
IN OUR CITY.
YOU NOTICE ON ONE OF THE
PREVIOUS CHARTS THAT GREG, YOU
SHOWED US, IN THE SUMMER MONTHS,
PARTICULARLY FROM THE NORTH
PRECINCT WE SAW A MASSIVE
UPTICK OF REFERRALS TO LEAD,
FOR EXAMPLE.
IT IS UNCLEAR WHETHER THAT IS
ASSOCIATED WITH COMMENSURATE
INCREASE IN THE ARREST OF SEX
WORKERS OR INTERACTIONS WITH
SEX WORKERS.
OR IF IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH
THE EMPHASIS PATROLS THAT WERE
ALSO COMING OUT OF THE NORTH
PRECINCT LEADING TO REFERRALS
TO LEAVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS
PUSHING THOSE NUMBERS OFF THE
CHART, IF YOU WILL.
IN TERMS OF THE PREVIOUS CHART
YOU ARE SHOWING US.
BUT BACK TO THIS ISSUE, I THINK
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US
TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WITH THE TOOLS WE
NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND TAKE A
VICTIM CENTERED APPROACH.
I AM CONCERNED THAT CURRENTLY
WE DON'T HAVE PERHAPS THE MOST
ROBUST TRAINING IN THIS
PARTICULAR SPACE TO ALLOW FOR
OFFICERS WHO INTERACT WITH SEX
WORKERS TO ACTUALLY BE ADOPTING
AND IMPLEMENTING AND DEPLOYING
VICTIM CENTERED APPROACHES.
IN THE SEX WORKERS SPACE.
AND SETTING ASIDE VICTIM
CENTERED APPROACHES, WE OFTEN
TIMES I THINK IT IN THE TRAP OF
TALKING ABOUT SEX WORKERS ONLY
BEING VICTIMS. IONAL SENSE OF
THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE.
SO SOMETIMES IT IS ABOUT HARM
REDUCTION.
AS OPPOSED TO TALKING ABOUT SEX
WORKERS FROM A VICTIM
PERSPECTIVE ONLY.
SO I THINK IT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE, AS CITY STAKEHOLDERS
ARE APPROPRIATELY TRAINED AND
IN THE NUANCES.
AND THAT THE INDUSTRY AND
MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING
OUR OFFICERS WHO MAY COME INTO
INTERACTION WITH SEX WORKERS
WITH THE APPROPRIATE TOOLS TO
BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO NEEDS
TO BE DIVERTED.
IS TRULY A VICTIM.
AND ANY OTHER SHADES OF GRAY
THAT MAY EXIST WITHIN THE
SPECTRUM.
I SEE COUNCILMEMBER PROVIDING
THE PLOT COMPLEMENTARY STIGMATA
OF LEGISLATIVE ATTEMPT THAT I
ADVANCED.
BECAUSE OF SPD DOESN'T
CURRENTLY UNDERGO THE TRAINING
AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO
HAVE SOME ADVANCE WORK BEING
DONE TO REALLY CODESIGN AND
REDEVELOP WHAT THE TRAINING
PROGRAM WOULD BE.
BY VISION AND HOPE WOULD BE IT
WOULD BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION
WITH ORGANIZATIONS -- COMMUNITY-
BASED ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO
REACHING OUT TO SEX WORKERS.
ACROSS THE CITY.
AND TO REALLY WORK TOGETHER TO
COME UP WITH A GOOD TRAINING
PROGRAM THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED
AMONG THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BOTH ON THE COMMAND STAFF LEVEL
BUT ALSO ON THE PATROL OFFICER
LEVEL OR DETECTIVE LEVEL WHERE
THERE IS INTERACTION BETWEEN
OFFICERS AND SEX WORKERS TO
REALLY MAKE THIS A WIN WIN
PROPOSITION FOR THE DEPARTMENT
AND FOR THE SEX WORKERS THAT
THEY COME INTO INTERACTION WITH
. WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES
MIGHT BE.
OBVIOUSLY COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA PROVIDES A
COMPLEMENTARY BECAUSE IT IS
THINKING FORWARD ABOUT THE ONES
WE HAVE THAT DESIGN IN PLACE
AND HOW WE FUND THE TRAINING.
I WILL SUBMIT A FORM THAT IS
LIKELY A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN
THE $200,000.
BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS
TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE
ESTIMATE.
AND WE'RE TALKING TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE A CONSENT OF THE SCOPE OF
WHO WOULD NEED TO DO THE
TRAINING TO HELP FINE-TUNE WHAT
THE COST FOR THIS ITEM WOULD
BE.
BUT I THINK IT IS IS AN
IMPORTANT INVESTMENT. AND I
HOPE THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE IT
IN THIS CYCLE.
>> VERY GOOD.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU AND
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA ARE
WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH
HER OFFICE WHILE IN HER
ABSENCE.
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
>> IT CAN BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO COMBINE THEM TO REDUCE
PAPER IN THE FUTURE.
AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATION.
>> SUPER.
>> THE LAST ONE COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD ADOPTING A SLIDE THAT
WOULD REQUEST SPD TO REPORT TO
THE COUNCIL FOR COMPLIANCE WITH
COPPER WIRE SALES TRANSACTIONS
AND RECORDKEEPING REQUIREMENTS.
>> THE STOLEN COPPER WIRE?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER O'BRIEN?
>> JUST TO SUPPORT
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ AND
MOSQUEDA'S . IF THERE'S
ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP.
IT IS BASED ON THE LAST
CONVERSATION A FEW WEEKS AGO.
SOME FUNDING FOR TRAINING AND
-- IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THE
CITY IS ALIGNED AROUND WHAT I
THOUGHT THE VISION WAS.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
ARE YOU GOING TO THE
APPENDICES?
>> NO, I'M DONE.
>> I'M REALLY SORRY, I THOUGHT
WE WOULD GO TO THEM LINE BY
LINE.
>> ARE YOU REGRETTING THAT NOW?
>> I WILL NEED ANOTHER COFFEE.
>> ANYTHING ELSE?
>> WELL DONE, GREG.
THIS IS A VERY MEATY
PRESENTATION.
>> WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
>> DAVID IS COMING.
HE WANTS TO SPEAK TO US.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'VE GOT FOUR PEOPLE.
THE FIRST ONE, LEASE OR TAYLOR
LOPEZ AND CHELSEA -- AND DAVID
HAYNES.
IF THE 3 OF YOU WILL GET CLOSE.
THEN THE LAST SPEAKER SIGNED UP
-- WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
>> SAVANNA.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU
WILL BE FORTH.
GO-AHEAD.
>> HELLO CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
MY NAME IS LISA TAYLOR LOPEZ
AND I SPEAK AS A FORMER LEADER
OF THE BIPOLAR ALLIANCE AND THE
SUPPORT OF THE SEATTLE CHAPTER
OF THE SEX WORKER RIGHTS
PROGRAM.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE
NEED OF AWARENESS FOR SEX
WORKERS AND FOR THE IN THERE
AWARENESS OF THE NEED OF THE
CITY BUDGET TO INCLUDE MONIES
TO HELP THESE HUMAN.
NORTH AURORA RESIDENTS HAVE
BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE
INCREASE OF CRIMINALIZED
ACTIVITY DUE TO THE
LEGISLATION.
PRESIDENT TRUMP SIGNED IN APRIL
2018.
WE ADVISED THE CONCERNED
CITIZENS LEARN ABOUT THE SEX
TRADE AND LISTEN TO WHAT'S WHAT
SEATTLE VICTIMS AND SEX WORKERS
OF ALL KINDS, TRAFFICKED,
CIRCUMSTANTIAL AND CONSENTING,
ARE SAYING ABOUT SEX WORKERS.
ESPECIALLY OF THOSE OF COLOR
AND TRANS-WORKERS.
IT WILL HELP US TO LEARN ABOUT
THE ENVIRONMENT AND HOW IT IS
IN THE SEX TRADE WORLD.
THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD
BE ABLE TO BETTER HELP.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO
CHOOSE TO SWAP.
WE HELP WITH THE PASSING OF THE
CITIZEN, THE CITIZENS WILL TAKE
YOUR LEAD AND DO WHAT THEY CAN
TO HELP THESE MARGINALIZED SEX
WORKERS.
ESPECIALLY SEX WORKERS OF COLOR
AND TRANS-WORKERS.
THEY ARE NOT UNIMPORTANT OVER
THERE WITH LITTLE PROBLEMS.
WE ARE EVERYWHERE AND DESERVING
OF HUMAN RIGHTS, HUMAN RIGHTS
THAT ARE PROMISED YOU EVERYONE.
WE ARE YOUR SISTER, YOUR
NEPHEW, YOUR EMPLOYEE, YOUR
DAUGHTER.
THE REASON YOU DON'T KNOW US IS
DUE TO THE SHAME AND STIGMA OF
SEX WORK.
WE MUST ERADICATE.
THE SAME OF SEX IN GENERAL AND
BE POLITICALLY ACTIVE ABOUT
SUPPORTING THE VICTIMS AND
CONSENTING SEX WORKERS ALIKE.
IN ORDER TO HELP TRAFFIC
VICTIMS WE MUST TEACH THEM HOW
TO NOT FEEL SHAME ABOUT HAVING
DONE SEX WORK.
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY ARE
TRAFFICKED OR CONSENTING.
REGARDLESS OF THEIR INVOLVEMENT
IN SEX WORK.
LEARN ABOUT THE VARIOUS ASPECTS
OF THE SEX TRADE AND TRY NOT TO
BE SECOND STIGMATIZING HOUR --
OR JUDGMENTAL.
IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE
THE SEX WORK INDUSTRY CONSISTS
OF 3 GENERAL CATEGORIES OF
WORKERS.
AS I SAID.
THOSE COERCED AND TRAFFICKED,
THOSE WHO DO SEX WORK BECAUSE
OF DIRE ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES
AND THOSE THAT CONSENTED FULLY.
LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSISTANT
DIVERSION IS A GOOD PROGRAM.
I THINK A BETTER ALTERNATIVE
WOULD BE SENDING THE POLICE TO
HELP WITH TRAINED SOCIAL
SERVICE WORKERS SUCH AS --
GREENLIGHT PROJECT ON NORTH
AURORA AND SWAP SEATTLE'S
OUTREACH CENTER ON SOUTH PACK
HIGHWAY.
AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN I SPEAK AS
A SEATTLE NATIVE, DISABLED
RESIDENT OF SEATTLE AND THE
FORMERLY COERCED TRAFFICKED AND
NOW CONSENTING SEX WORKER.
I URGE YOU TO ALLOW YOURSELF TO
BE INFORMED BY SEX WORKERS OF
ALL KINDS.
>> THANK YOU FOR COMING, LISA.
CHELSEA, DAVID AND SAVANNA.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> COULDN'T BE BETTER.
I LOVE TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
MY NAME IS CHELSEA AND I'M FROM
DOWNTOWN SEATTLE ASSOCIATION.
I DO ADVOCACY WORK INVOLVING
PUBLIC SAFETY.
HOMELESSNESS, AND OTHER THINGS
TOO.
AND A PERSONAL NOTE BEFORE, I
WAS AT DSA I WORKED IN THE
LABOR MOVEMENT AND WORKED A LOT
IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM.
I VISITED PRESIDENT PRISONS AND
JAILS THROUGHOUT WASHINGTON AND
THE COUNTRY.
I WAS A LITTLE BIT WORRIED THAT
WHEN I GOT INVOLVED IN THIS
WORK IT WOULD PROVIDE SOME
INTERNAL CONFLICT.
BECAUSE OF MY PREVIOUS WORK.
AND IT HASN'T.
THE WORK WITH THE INDIVIDUALS
HAS GIVEN A BROADER PERSPECTIVE.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING TSA TO
URGE YOU TO FUND THE MAYOR
PROPOSAL. DSA AND PARTNERS, WE
WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BECAUSE
OF OUR MEMBERS WHO KEPT TELLING
US THAT IT IS HARD TO DO
BUSINESS IN SEATTLE.
AS YOU KNOW, WE WORKED WITH
SCOTT LINDSAY AND COMMISSIONED
TWO REPORTS THAT GAVE US A
DEEPER DIVE. WHAT WE LEARNED IS
THE SYSTEM AS IT STANDS NOW
ISN'T WORKING.
IT IS NOT WORKING FOR PEOPLE
RECYCLING THROUGH THE SYSTEM
AND IS NOT WORKING FOR MEMBERS.
IS NOT WORKING FOR THE GENERAL
PUBLIC.
OFTEN TIMES, WOMEN AND LOW-WAGE
WORKERS ARE THE ONES BEING
VICTIMIZED.
SO ALL OF THAT TO SAY, WE DID
SOME LEARNING AND VISITED
DIFFERENT CITIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
MINNEAPOLIS BEING ONE OF THEM
LAST WEEK.
MINNEAPOLIS WAS HERE.
AND A LOT OF WHAT CITIES WHO WE
THINK ARE MAKING PROGRESS WITH
THIS POPULATION, THE
INVESTMENTS AT THE MAYOR HAS
PROPOSED MIRROR OR MIMIC WHAT
WE THINK IS WORKING IN OTHER
CITIES.
SO WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT AND
TO FUND THE MAYOR'S PROPOSALS
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH YOU ALL MOVING FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
>> DAVID AND SAVANNA.
SAVANNA, DO YOU WANT TO COME
UP?
>> CITY COUNCIL SHOULD STOP
BEING ALOOF AND OUT OF TOUCH
AND DELETE ONE OUT OF THE FOUR
EXEMPTIONS FOR LEAD.
AND NOT ALLOW THE EVIL DRUG
PUSHERS WHO DESTROY LIVES DAILY
TO BE EXEMPTED FROM JAIL.
BECAUSE IT IS NOT A LOW-LEVEL
CRIME.
A LOW-LEVEL CRIME IS STEALING
AN APPLE FROM THE GROCERY
STORE.
BUT HIGH-LEVEL AND LOW-LEVEL
DRUG PUSHERS ARE THE SAME EVIL
PIECES OF YOU KNOW WHAT.
IT IS OBVIOUS WE HAVE THE MOST
RACIST LEADERS IN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, ILL TRAINED AND
COWARDICE, REFUSING TO GO AFTER
THE BAD GUYS BECAUSE THE RACES
CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR IS
FINANCING A BIAS,
UNCONSTITUTIONAL POLICE DATE OF
CONDUCTING WAR ON THE POOR.
CLAIMING THE WAR ON DRUGS
FAILED BECAUSE THE WRONG COPS
WERE HIRED.
AND ILL TRAINED AND ACTIVIST 05
CITY COUNCIL INTO BELIEVING IT
IS PROGRESSIVE TO EMPLOY
SOCIETY KEEPING DRUG PUSHERS
OUT OF JAIL WHILE SUPPORTING
THE MOST RACIST, BIASED BUDGET
IN THE 21st CENTURY IN THE
FIRST WORLD.
SHAME A CITY COUNCIL BOARD
PLATE VIOLATIONS.
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO CONVINCE
YOU -- FILLED IN THE BLANKS OF
MARIJUANA WITH CRACK, METH AND
HEROIN.
A LOWLIFE THAT BRINGS TRUCKS
AND RENTS A LIFE.
WEEKS AND PUSHERS FROM JAIL
THEN?
CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM SHOULD
BE ABOUT IMPROVING THE GEL
PUNISHMENTS.
NOT DISCOUNTING THE VICTIMS
WHILE EMBRACING EVIL BECAUSE
THEY HAVE RADICAL THINKING
LAWYERS LOOKING TO GET RICH,
KEEPING THEM OUT OF JAIL.
USING MORE UNQUALIFIED CASE
MANAGERS WHO WORK BANKERS
HOURS, CHEERLEADING AND
ENCOURAGING EVIL PUSHERS TO BE
BETTER PEOPLE., STATE, CL
IMPLODED BECAUSE DRUG PUSHERS
KNOW THEY AIN'T GOING TO JAIL,
ESPECIALLY IF THEY USE THEIR
OWN PRODUCT.
WHEN IS CITY COUNCIL GOING TO
DEMAND THE SAME AMOUNT OF
EFFORT AND INVESTMENT TO HELP
THE INNOCENT SOBER, DRUG C,
CIVILIZED, UPSTANDING HOMELESS.
YOU DISCRIMINATE AGAINST HIM AND
INNOCENCE FOR EVIL DESTROYERS
OF LIFE GIVING PUSHERS HOME
ALLOWS THEM TO BE MORE
SOPHISTICATED.
ABUSING OTHERS.
>> THANK YOU, DAVID.
>> SAVANNA?
THANK YOU FOR COMING.
>> HELLO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
MY NAME IS SAVANNA FLY AND I'M
A SEX WORKER AND I'M THE FORMER
PRESIDENT OF THE SEX WORKERS
OUTREACH THE 'GRAM USA., MEMBER
OF SWAP SEATTLE AND ALSO AN
ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE RIGHTS AND
SAFETY OF THOSE IN THE SEX
TRADE AND I APPRECIATE THE
THOUGHT AND ATTENTION BROUGHT
TO THE SEX TRADE IN THE PAST
FEW WEEKS.
I WANT TO SPEAK TO 2 THINGS.
ACTUALLY THREE THINGS REAL
QUICK.
THE FUNDING FOR SPD.
WE APPLY THIS AND APPRECIATE
THIS.
WE HOPE YOU REACH OUT TO A WIDE
RANGE OF ORGANIZATIONS.
SOMETHING THAT IS UNFORTUNATE
THAT HAS HAPPENED AMONG
ADVOCATES IN THE SEX TRADE
THROUGH THE PAST INITIATIVES.
OVER THE PAST 2 YEARS AROUND
TRYING TO AND DEMAND FOR
PROSTITUTION AND ERADICATE THE
SEX TRADE.
A BIG DIVISION HAS BEEN CREATED
BETWEEN PEOPLE IDENTIFIED AS
SURVIVORS AND IDENTIFIED AS SIX
WORKERS.
WE ARE ALL PEOPLE IN THE SEX
TRADE AND WE HAVE A TRAINING
LIKE THIS COULD BE A
COLLABORATION BETWEEN PEOPLE
BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE VERY
SIMILAR EXPERIENCES.
ALSO LEAD IS DOING GREAT WORK.
IT IS DEFINITELY BETTER THAN
JUST ARRESTING EVERYBODY.
BUT LEAD ISN'T NECESSARILY
EQUIPPED TO HELP PEOPLE IN THE
SEX TRADE THAT MIGHT BE THERE,
IF THEY'RE NOT BEING TOTALLY
COURSE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING
ON THE STREETS THAT HAVE VERY
BAD SITUATIONS.
AND THINGS THAT COULD HELP THEM
WOULD BE, AS LISA SAID
ASSISTANCE AROUND DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE, HOUSING, JOB
TRAINING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THOSE ARE NECESSARILY THINGS
THE LEAD IS FULLY EQUIPPED TO
HELP.
WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER
HAVING MORE SOCIAL WORKERS ON
THE STREET TO BUILD
RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE.
IS AN INHERENTLY ANTAGONISTIC
RELATIONSHIP WITH POLICE
BECAUSE PEOPLE IN THE SEX TRADE
ARE CRIMINALIZED AND IT ISN'T
ALWAYS THE BEST FIRST POINT OF
. WE LIKE TO SAY HELP DOESN'T
BEGIN WITH HANDCUFFS.
WE MIGHT LOOK UP TO OUR
NEIGHBORS UP NORTH IN
VANCOUVER, CANADA HAS A
DIFFERENT RESTITUTION MODEL.
BUT THEY HAVE A COMMUTE SLEEP
COMMUNITY LIAISON WITH NO POWER
TO ARREST.
SHE'S THERE TO FILE POLICE
REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THANKS FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS
ISSUE, WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> SAVANNA, DO YOU HAVE A
CONTACT?
>> I DO.
>> I ASK YOU TO PUT IT ON
THERE?
I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH
YOU.
>> ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK?
>> ANYTHING TO SAY?
JUST GETTING.
WHILE I HAVE SAVANNA, AND I
MISSED YOUR NAME.
LISA?
SAVANNA AND LISA ARE HERE.
WE DID GET -- FROM OF SURVIVOR
PERSPECTIVE, WE DID RECEIVE A
REQUEST.
TO ADVANCE ANOTHER BUDGET ADD
THAT WOULD CREATE A DIVERSION
PROGRAM FOR SEX WORKERS WHO MAY
COME INTO CONTACT WITH THE
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM.
AND THAT DOES HAVE A STRONGER
FOCUS ON FUNNELING RESOURCES
OVER TO COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS OF ALL VARIETY.
THAT WORK ACROSS THE SPECTRUM
WITHIN THE SEX TRADE.
WHAT WOULD BE REALLY HAPPY TO
STAY IN CONTRACT AND MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF
YOUR INPUT AND PERSPECTIVE AS
WE ADVANCE THIS PARTICULAR
BUDGET ITEM.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL
COME UP IN THE FORM.
AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW
SINCE I HAD YOU HERE.
>> THANK YOU.
IF THE 2 OF YOU WOULD BE
INTERESTED AND WILLING TO TALK
WITH ME OFF-LINE, I WOULD LOVE
TO HAVE A CHANCE TO PURSUE SOME
OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS FURTHER.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
ONE QUICK THING, RECENTLY A
WORKGROUP AND STUDY ON REENTRY
THAT I THINK YOU HELPED
COMMISSION.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS
DECRIMINALIZATION OF
PROSTITUTION AND DRUG LOITERING
. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING BUT
WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THEM UP
SO THEY DON'T GET VERY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IF YOU WILL JUST GIVE ME YOUR
CONTACT INFORMATION.
I WILL FOLLOW UP.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY, THANK
YOU FOR STAYING THROUGHOUT THE
ENTIRE AFTERNOON.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AND WE
WILL START AGAIN TOMORROW
MORNING AT 9:30 AM.