>>> GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME.
I AM LISA HERBOLD, THE CHAIR OF
THE COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL
MEMBER REPRESENTING WEST
SEATTLE AND WESTERN DISTRICT
ONE.
AND WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING
TO ORDER.
WE WILL START OFF WITH A
CULTURAL SPOTLIGHT, BY THE
OFFICE OF ARTINGS AND CULTURE.
WE WILL FOLLOW THAT WITH PUBLIC
COMMENTED AND THEN WE HAVE IS
THREE ITEMS OF BUSINESS, A
RESOLUTION FOR EVICTION REFORM
EFFORTS THE SECOND A PUBLIC
HEARING AND DISCUSSION RELATING
TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE'S POINT.
AND THEN LASTLY A BRIEFING FROM
SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES ON
THEIR SEISMIC RESILIENCY
PROGRAM.
SO WITH THAT, WE WILL PASS IT
OFF TO OUR CULTURAL SPOTLIGHT.
JENNY.
>>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING.
WE ARE HERE FROM THE OFFICE OF
ARTS AND CULTURE.
WE ARE WORKING WITH OFFICE OF
THE WATER FRONT TO DO AN ONE
DAY ACTIVITITY RATION OF THE
DAY VIVI DUCT.
SO WE WILL BE DOING AN ART
FESTIVAL WITH OVER 100 100
ASHTISTS?
SO IT IS ON FEBRUARY 2nd FROM
12:30 P.M.
UNTIL ABOUT 6:00 P.M.
AT TONIGHT.
IT IS FROM SENECA TO WESTERN
WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ARTIST
INSTALLATIONS, ACTIVITIES
INCLUDING A WIDE VARIETY OF
THINGS TO BE SEEN, ENJOYED,ND
REALLY ADD TO THE EXPERIENCE.
SOME EXAMPLES INCLUDE SOME
SCULPTURES THAT WILL BE
INVITING PEOPLE TO WALK AROUND
AND SIT UPON TO APPRECIATE THE
VIEW.
SOME VINTAGE TRAILERS, WHICH
ARE THE SAME VINTAGE OF THE
VIADUCT ITSELF, AS WELL AS 3-D
MURALS TO REALLY SEE THE
WATERFRONT: AND WE WILL DART
WITH A PROCESSION, THAT IS ONE
OF THE MAIN ENTRY POINTS SO, WE
WILL HAVE FREMONT ART COUNCIL
AND THEIR ARTISTS WILL HAVE
VISION WITH A HOT OF ARTS AND
CULTURAL GROUPS.
WE WILL HAVE MUSICAL
PERFORMANCES FROM THE FAB CREW
DOWNNY BROTHERS.
STORY TELLING AND COMEDY AND
VARIETY SHOW TYPE OF AFFAIR AS
WELL.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ROGER
FERNANDEZ AND SOME FEYTIVE
NATIVE CANOES.
>> ONE OF THE ITEMS WE HAVE
BEEN WORKING ON IS REALLY
CREATING AN ATMOSPHERE OF
REFLECTION AND CHANCE TO SAY
GOOD-BYE TO THE DIE INSTRUCT
AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WILL
BECOME OF THIS NEW LOCATION.
AND SO THE ARTISTS HAVE BEEN
WORKING HARD, REALLY THINKING
ABOUT HOW WANT TO MAKE THEIR
MARK AND SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC,
THOUGHTS, FEELINGS, AND
IMPRESSIONS OF THIS EVENT.
>> AND THIS IS WORK FROM APRIL
THAT WILL BE FEATURED ON THE
VIADUCT AS WELL.
SO THERE ARE SIGHT PECK
INSTALLATIONS AND IT IS JUST A
CHANCE FOR KIND OF A GROUP
PROCESS ISING OF EMOTION, AS A
LOT OF EMOTION ABOUT WHAT IS
HAPPENING.
AND WE HOPE TO SEE FOLKS ON
SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 2nd.
GO TO 99 STEP FORWARD, THE
STATE'S WEBSITE TO BOOK THEIR
TIMED TICKETS.
AND IF FOLKS ARE NOT ABLE TO
GET THE TIME THAT THEY WANT,
THEY ARE ENCOLONELLED TO STILL
COME AND WE WILL TRY TO COME
DATE EVERYONE THAT WE CAN.
>> SO THERE IS STILL TIME
AVAILABLE THROUGH THE BOOKING
PROCESS?
I HAD HEARD THERE WAS NOT.
>> SO THERE ARE TUNNEL AND
VIADUCT TICKETS.
AND LAST WE CHECKED THERE WERE
TICKETS FOR VIADUCT ONLY.
AND THIS IS FOR THE TOP DECK OF
THE VIADUCT.
SO DRESS WARMLY, AND IT IS A
GREAT CHANCE TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO
THE VIADUCT AND HELLO TO WHAT
WILL BECOME THE NEW WATERFRONT.
>> AND I THINK YOU ALREADY
MENTIONED IT BUT IT IS A FREE
TO THE PUBLIC EVENT, BUT YOU
ENCOURAGE TICKETS, OR REQUIRE
TICKETS JUST BECAUSE OF THE
LARGE INTEREST IN THE EVENT.
>> YES, IT IS FREE AND OPEN TO
THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN THE TIME TICKET IS TO
HANDLE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE HANDLE CAPACITY AND KEEP IT
SAFE.
>> YES.
RIGHT.
>> AND THE MAIN ENTRY POINTS
ARE AT SENECA AND THE NORTH
HUB.
>> AND DATE AGAIN?
>> SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 2nd.
>> ALL RIGHT, SOUNDS SUPER FUN
AND THOUGHTFUL AS WELL.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE LENS OF
CHANGE, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING
THAT THERE IS SOME PROCESSING
TO DO WITH THAT.
I WAS, I DECIDE TODAY TAKE MY
LAST RIDE ON THE VIADUCT THE
EVENING IT CLOSED AT ABOUT 9:30
P.M.
AND JUST WATCHED PEOPLE
PROCESSING IN THEIR OWN WAY.
AND IT WAS, IT IS QUITE THE
PARTY UP THERE.
SO IT IS GREAT THAT WE ARE
HAVING ANOTHER ONE.
SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE ARE
MOVING INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE SIGNED
UP TO SPEAK.
AND NOEL WILL BE KEEPING TIME.
TO MINUTES A PERSON AND YOU CAN
WATCH ON THE CLOCK AND SEE WHEN
YOUR TIME IS GOING AND HE WILL
ALSO BE HOLDING A SIGN TO
INDICATE AS WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE
A MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS, AND
WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
SOILY READ TWO NAMES INTO THE
RECORD.
AND IF FOLKS CAN APPROACH THE
TWO MICROPHONES, THAT WOULD BE
GREAT.
WE HAVE ALEX AND THEN MELODY
CLARK.
>> --MY LOVELY--GARBAGE ROUTES
ARE DIRTY--MY FAME IS ALEX SIM
ISER MANMENT I WANT TO ALEX.
I HAVE BEEN EVICTED SIX TIMES.
THERE ARE 500 FAMILIES THAT
WILL BE EVICTED IN CENTRAL PARK
EAST APARTMENT, AND I WIN THIS
CLASS ACTION BECAUSE OF-
-FAMILY.
I EVICTED THE TWO SHERIFF--WIN
MY CASE IN APPEAL--OUTS OF
CONTROL RIGHT NOW.
SO HOW CAN WE FIX THIS PROBLEM
AND STOP EVICTION?
IT IS VERY SIMPLE.
AND I TALK ABOUT A THOUSAND
TIMES.
--COUNCIL FOR FIVE YEAR USE
VERY SIMPLE EXPRESSION STOP-
-WHEN YOU STOP AMAZON, PRICES
WILL STABILIZE AND NOT WILL BE
EVICTION.
WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW IS A- IT
IS NOT GOING TO FIX THE
PROBLEM.
THERE IS ONLY ONE PROBLEM, WE
WANT ACTION.
STOP AMAZON.
RIGHT NOW AMAZON WANTS TO HIRE
10,000 PEOPLE.
STOP THIS,--THAT IS EXACTLY WHO
YOU ARE.
IT IS VERY SIMPLE, STOP AMAZON
AND EVERYTHING WILL BE BACK.
SEATTLE WILL BE BACK AGAIN.
MAYBE NOT LIKE 0 OR 20 YEARS
AGO, BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS
SMART, BUT WE WILL BE
STABILIZED, SIMPLE.
NO ONE FROM UNIQUE GROUP IN THE
CHAMBER TALKING ABOUT STOPPING
ALSON.
NO ONE, FOR FIVE YEARS, RIGHT
NOW, SPEAK AND LISTEN TO ME.
STAND UP AMERICA, CLEANSE THIS
DIRTY CHAMBER FROM--PRINCIPLE.
>> THAT YOU THINK VERY MUCH.
>> MELODY CLARK AND THEN
TIFFANY MCKOY.
>> I AM MEL DAY CLARK.
I WAS EVICTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO
BECAUSE OF SOME MONETARY, OH,
UM, UM, CAUSES THAT WERE NOT
UNDER MY CONTROL.
AND I PAID MY EVICTION OFF AND
THEN IT STILL HAUNTS ME, IT IS
ON MY RECORD FOR THE REST OF MY
LIFE.
I PAID IT AWE, I HAVE TO HAVE A
FROM MY LANDLORD AND THE CREDIT
COMPANY IS SAYING THAT IT IS
PAID, AND THOUGH PAID IT OFF I
GOT CALLED SAYING THAT YOU HAVE
TO GO TO COURT.
YOU OWE US MONEY.
AND SO NO, I DIDN'T, I PAID IT
OFF.
SAID NO, YOU HAVE TO GO TO
COURT.
I SAID I HAVE THESE LETTERS
SAYING I PAID.
FAX IT TO US.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH I PAID IT
OFF, I AM ALWAYS UNDER THE SAME
THING, SOME OTHER COMPANY CAN
CALL ME AND SAY YOU OWE US
MONEY, EVEN THOUGH I PAID THEM
OFF.
AND IT IS ON MY RECORD FOR THE
REST OF MY LIFE.
EVEN THOUGH I MADE THE MISTAKE,
THE MISTAKE WAS MADE, I PAID
IT.
I PAID MY DUES.
AND THERE SHOULD FALL OFF SOME
INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING THE REST
OF MY LIFE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
FOLLOWING TIFFANY IS THEY ARE
HEATHER PIERCE.
ORGANIZER FOR REAL CHANGE.
WE DID HAVE OTHER VENDORS THAT
WANT TODAYED TO COME, OTHERS
WERE AND THE COUNTY DOING THE
COUNT.
SO, THEY WILL COME FLEXION TIME
BECAUSE HOPEFULLY THIS
RESOLUTION WILL BE ROLLING INTO
AN ACTUAL ORDNANCE, BECAUSE WE
HAVE THIS GROUND BREAKING STUDY
THAT SHOWS VERY CLEARLY THE
PIPELINE FROM EVICTION TO
HOMELESSNESS AND WE NEED TO
TACKLE THE CRISIS FROM ALL
ANGLES AND WE DO HAVE VENDORS
THAT HAVE BEEN EVICTED, IT IS
FOLLOWING THEM AROUND FOR THEIR
ENTIRE LIFE, MELODY WAS TELLING
ME EARLIER THAT THE COMPANY
THAT SHE HAD TO PAY IT BACK TO
IS NOW OUT OF BUSINESS.
SO IF EVER THE DOCUMENTS WERE
LOST, TRYING TO OBTAIN THAT
PROOF THAT IT WAS PAID IS GOING
TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFICULT,
BECAUSE THE COMPANY DOES NOT
EXIST ANYMORE.
AND SO I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT
THE NEXT STEP IS TURNING THIS
INTO AN ORDNANCE.
WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER STUDY,
THE WOMEN'S COMMISSION'S STUDY
WAS QUITE STRONG, QUITE GROUND
BREAKING, AND I JUST ASK THAT
YOU ALL HOLD YOUR RESOLVE
AGAINST THE LANDLORD BOB BY,
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY WILL
BE TURNING OUT AND GIVING TOO
MANIES DAY SITUATIONS AB HOW
THEY ARE ALL GOING TO GO OUT OF
BUSINESS.
BUT, WE SEE FROM OTHER, OTHER
COUNTIES AROUND THE NATION,
THAT THERE ARE STILL LANDLORDS,
THAT THERE ARE STILL
SIGNIFICANT PROTECTIONS FOR
TENANTS.
PLEASE STAY STRONG AGAINST
THAT.
THANK YOU.
>> HEATHER HERES AND THEN--
>> GOOD MORNING, I AM HEATHER
PIERCE.
I AM CONCERNED THAT THIS
RESOLUTION WILL DO LITTLE SOLVE
HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM.
74% OF THE CASES IF THE LOSING
HOME REPORT FELL BEDUE TO A FIE
FAN SHALL EMERGENCY.
AND THE COUNCIL WOULD RATHER TO
WAIT ON REMEMBER PAYMENTS,
MAYBE CAUSING THE OWNERS TO
DEFAULT ON MORTGAGE.
KEEP IN MIND MANY RENT
PAYMENTS, EXCUSE ME, MANY
RENTAL OWNERS HAVE A LANDLORD,
TOO, CALLED THE BANK, WHICH
CALDEROL IN THE LOSS OF THE
RENTAL PROPERTY ALL TOGETHER,
LEVERING THAL OWNER IN A
FINANCIAL HARD SHAPE AND THE
RENTER OUT A HOME.
SEATTLE HAS A HOUSING TRUST
FUND, WHICH THE RENTAL HOUSING
ASSOCIATION SUPPORTED.
AND BY THIS CITY'S OWN MARCH
2018 EVALUATION, SHORT TERM
RENTAL SUBSIDIED EXPERIENCING
FINANCIAL EMERGENCIES WERE
97%ED: AND COUNCIL DID NOT
VOTE TO INCREASE SHORT TERM
RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
MANY OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS WREN
TOLL OWNERS ARE PAYING
MORTGAGES, AND THIS IS THE TYPE
OF ONER THAT SEATTLE NEEDS TO
TRY TO PRESERVE IN THE MARKET.
IT FLECKED MORE FLEXIBLE TERMS,
LOWER RENT, AND LONGER TIMES
THAT TENANTS ARE IN THE
BUILDING.
THIS IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO
CREATE POLICY.
WITH MORE TAN 150 SO UNITS
OPERATING IF THE CITY OF
SEATTLE AN 1200 EVICTIONS IN
2017, IT IS CLEAR THAT RENTAL
OWNERS AND MANAGERS ARE IN THE
BUSINESS OF HOUSING PEOPLE, NOT
EVICTING TEMPERATURE.
>> OKAY, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK
FACTS.
SO MOST MORTGAGES, YOU ARE NOT
LATE ON THE MORTGAGE UNTIL THE
16th OF THE MONTH.
TENANTS HAVE THREE DAYS.
ALSO THE DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE
RENT AFTER THE THREE DAY
NOTICE, SO THAT DOES NOT
REALLY, YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THE
SHORT TERM RENTAL ASSISTANT
TANS IF THE WORLD, BUT IF THE
LANDLORD REFUSES IT IT DOES NOT
HELP YOU MUCH.
AND PLACES SUCH AS TENNESSEE
HAVE # 4 DAYS TO PAY RENT AND
WHAT IS THE AVERAGE RENT THERE,
THE AVERAGE RENT FOR THE STATE
IS $857.
WOW, GIVING PEOPLE MORE TIME IS
REALLY GOING TO HURT OUR HOUSE
MARKET.
ALSO, OHIO THEIR AVERAGE RENT
IS $843.
SOUTH CAROLINA, ANOTHER ONE
THAT HAS DISCRETION, I SAW A
JUDGE IS GIVE A PERSON APPOINT
TO GO FIND AN ATTORNE WHEN I
WAS THERE OVER THE HOLIDAYS,
AVERAGE RENT $923.
LET'S TALK ABOUT HOME PEOPLE
ARE HOMELESS IN PLACES.
TENNESSEE, 12.5 PEOPLE ARE
HOMELESS PER 10,000 PEOPLE.
OHIO, 8.7 PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS
PER 10,000.
SOUTH CAROLINA, 7.9 PER 10,000.
WASHINGTON NUMBERS HERE, AND IT
IS HIGHER IN SEATTLE.
$1442.
PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS 29
PEOPLE PER 10,000.
SO THE IDEA THAT STRENGTHEN TEN
FAT PROTECTIONS IS GOING TO
MAKE OUR HOUSING CRISIS WORSE
IS CRAZY AND NOT BASSED ON
FACT, IT IS BASED ON FEAR
MONITORING.
AND YOU KEEP ON TALKING ABOUT
BEING A BUSINESS OWNER.
IF YOU ARE A BUSINESS OWN SOAR
THAT BUYS A MORTGAGE THAT YOU
CANNOT AFFORD, YOU ARE DUMB.
AND MOST MORTGAGES, POSE
LANDLORDS WHO RENT OUT A
PROPERTY, THEY BOUGHT IT
DECADES AGO SO, THEY ARE MAKING
CRAZY AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND WHEN
YOU CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF
TIMES THAT THEY ACTUALLY
INTERACT WITH THE RENTERS, I
HAVE LIVED HERE FOR YEARS.
>> GINA WILL BE FOLLOWED BY.
>> GINA?
ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK?
YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
>> OH, SORRY.
>> SORRY, WHEN MY BOSS SPEAKS,
I DO.
HELLO, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I THINK WHAT I WANT TO DO RIGHT
NOW IS JUST TO SAY I REALLY
LOVE THE THREE OF YOU UP THERE,
AND I LOVE THAT YOU ARE SO
PEOPLE ORIENTED THAT YOU REALLY
WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE
AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT THAT, AND
I REALLY SUPPORT THAT YOU WANT
TO PUSH SOMETHING THROUGH IN
THE WAY OF EVICTION REFORM
BECAUSE IT IS NECESSARY.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I
THINK IT IS NECESSARY IS
BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO
HAVE A PAST HISTORY OF PAYING
RENT ON TIME EVERY MONTH, UNTIL
WE WERE IN A CAR ACCIDENT, THAT
CAR ACCIDENT DIDN'T HOLD ANY
WEIGHT WHEN IT CAME TO MY
EVICTION IN COURT, WHERE IT
SHOULD HAVE.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CASE
WHERE THE JUDGES ARE ABLE TO
HAVE DECISION MAKING AND THEY
DIDN'T HAVE THAT AT THAT TIME,
SO THE ONLY THING WAS THE JUDGE
HAD TO GO WITH THE LANDLORD.
AND THAT IS REALLY A SAD THING
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, IN
THESE EVICTIONS, IT IS BECAUSE
OF A CIRCUMSTANCE THAT PEOPLE
ARE THERE.
THEY DON'T JUST NOT PAY THEIR
RENT FOR A MONTH OR TWO.
THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE
LANDLORDS DON'T WANT THEM IN
THEIR BUILDING ANYMORE.
AND THAT IS SAD.
SO I HOPE WHAT I SAID TODAY
RESINATES.
THANK YOU.
>> HI, DOES THIS THING WORK?
OKAY, I M--AND UM, UM,
RECENTLY I WAS IN THE TIMES FOR
AN EVICTION FOR $2.
IT WAS KIND OF CRAZY, I AM A
SINGLE MOM OF THREE CHILDREN
AND IT WAS FOR ONE MISSED RENT
PAYMENT AND LET'S NOT GET INTO
THE DETAILS THERE.
BUT THERE WAS NO PROTECTION FOR
ME OR MY FAMILY.
LUCKILY THE HEARING WENT WELL
AND WE SETTLED ON THE
CONDITIONS AND TERMS OF BALLARD
REALTY, WHICH I MEAN, I JUST
HAVE TO PAY MY RENT ON TIME AND
GIVER THEM MY UTILITIES THAT I
WAS WITHHOLDING BECAUSE I
DIDN'T THINK IT WAS FAIR, $2
AND ME AND MY THREE CHILDREN
CHILDREN, THREE YEARS AND
YOUNGER, I JUST COULD NOT
BELIEVE IT.
AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE LAWS
IN PLACE THAT ALLOW RENTAL
COMPANIES TO DO THIS SORT OF
THING.
AND I WILL NEVER GET BACK MY
SANITY POINTS, YOU KNOW, FOR
FREAKING OUT OVER $2 EVICTION.
YES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE
REALLY TO SAY, BUT FOR THERE
NEEDS TO BE A REFORM AND
PROTECTION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
IN MY SITUATION.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT WAS
DISCRIMINATION AND THEY WERE
JUST PICKING THE FIRST PERSON
THAT THEY COULD GET OUT OF THE
BUILDING.
I AM THE ONLY VOUCHER HOLDER IN
MY BUILDING.
AND YES, FOR $2, THE JUDGE WAS
NOT VERY IMPRESSED WITH IT.
AND NEITHER WAS I. I MEAN I
HAVE A JOB TO GET TO.
I HAVE THREE KIDS AND WE ARE ON
FOOT.
I HADED TO AGREE TO DROP OFF MY
RENT, ALL THE WAY IN DOWNTOWN
SEATTLE, WHEN I LIVE IN LAKE
CITY, JUST TO MAKE SUR THAT
THEY GET THEIR $2 PAYMENT.
AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRAZY THAT
I HAD TO AGREE TO THE TERMS IN
ORDER TO STAY IN MY UNIT, AND I
HAVE NEVER HAD A HISTORY OF
PAYING LATE.
I MEAN IT IS $2, GUYS.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I JUST HOPE
THAT MY STORY CAN SIT WITH YOU
GUYS AND YOU CAN KNOW THAT
THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT
DO NEED MORE PROTECTION AND
MORE RIGHTS.
>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR
STORY.
>> GREETINGS AND GOOD DAY ONE
AND ALL.
I AM TANYA, COMMISSIONER, I ON
THE SEATTLE'S WOMEN COMMISSION,
APPOINTED BY LISA HERBOLD.
SO, UM, ALSO, ON THE VIOLENCE
PREVENTION AND JUSTICE
SUBCOMMITTEE THERE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, I NEED TO
SQUABBING I WILL, I APPROVE AND
ENDORSE THE EVICTION REFORM
RESOLUTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
COUNSEL MEMBERS, HERBOLD,
O'BRIEN, AND OTHERSMENT I THANK
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD FOR
SAYREINGS IN ART SEATTLE DR.
MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
ORGANIZATION OPPORTUNITY FAIR
THIS PAST MONDAY IN HER
NEWSLETTER.
THAT IS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW,
AND PEOPLE NEED THE GREAT JOBS
AND THERE WERE A LOT OF
COMPANIES THERE OFFERING
POSITIONS THERE.
I AM HAPPY TO BE ON THE
ORGANIZING COALITION AS WELL.
SO IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO PUT
THAT EVENT, HELP PUT THAT EVENT
TOGETHER.
BUT THIS PAST MONDAY THE CITY
AND GREATER AREA CELEBRATED THE
BIRTHDAY OF MURDERED SEVERAL
RIGHTS LEADER DR. MARTIN LUTHER
KING, JR. WE CAN BOAST ABOUT
BEING THE ONLY CITY IN THE
COUNTRY TO HAVE A COUNTY NAMED
AFTER DR. KING, AND AS I
STATED, I AM ON THE VIOLENCE
PREVENTION AND JUSTICE
SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE WOMEN'S
GROUP.
AND I DECLARE EVICTIONS TO BE
VIOLENT.
WRONG EVICTIONS ARE AN ABORTION
OF JUSTICE.
JANUARY IS ALSO HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND SLAVERY
AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH
AS WELL.
I DIDN'T SEE IT POINTED OUT IN
THE RESOLUTION, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE SOME
PROPERTY MANAGERS THAT TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF NOT, FOR PEOPLE TO
NOT BE ABLE TO PAY RENT IN CASH
AND THEY SOLICIT SEXUAL AND
LABOR FROM THEM.
SO LET'SED A THAT TO THE
CONVERSATION.
>> THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR
LEADERSHIP.
>> I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL WE
HAVE, I HAVE ON THESE PAGES
SIGNED UP.
BUT I THINK I SAW SOMEONE ELSE
SIGN UP.
>> THANK YOU, STATE YOUR NAME
FOR THE.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> GOOD MORNING, I AM SKY I
WILL.
I AM A SEATTLE RESIDENT SINCE I
WAS 2. AND I AM ALSO AN
ATTORNEY AND I HAVE VOLUNTEERED
A LOT WITH THE HOUSING JUSTICE
PROJECT DOWN IN KENT.
I HAVE, I HAVE SEEN, SOMETHING
THAT I APPRECIATE BEING IN THE
RESOLUTION, UM, IS THE
RECOGNITION OF THE ATTORNEYS
FEES PROVISION THAT IS INCLUDED
IF THE LANDLORD TENANT ACT THAT
ALLOWS FOR THE PREVAILING PARTY
TO RECEIVE THEIR ATTORNEY'S
FEES.
AS SOMEONE WHO HAS VOLUNTEERED,
I HAVE SEEN COUNTLESS TIMES, I
CAN NOT BEGIN DESCRIBE THE
NUMBER OF TIMES I HAVE SEEN THE
AMOUNT OF THE ATTORNEYS FEES
DWARF OF THE AMOUNT THAT OWED
IN PAST RENT.
MY CONCERN, HOWEVER, WITH THE
RESOLUTION, IS THAT I FEEL LIKE
SOMETHING THAT LEGISLATIVE IN
NATURE, THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN
UP WITH THE LANDLORD TENANT
ACT.
I AM WONDERING WHAT IS BEING
DONE ABOUT THAT AT THE LEVEL.
BUT I APPRECIATE THAT SEATTLE
IS TAKING A STAND AND HOPEFULLY
IT WILL SPEND IS A MESSAGE THAT
SOME CHANGES CAN BE DONE.
>> ALL RIGHT W THAT, I WILL
CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE CAN
MOVE INTO ITEM 1 ON THE AGENDA.
>> AGENDA ITEM ONE.
>> [ READING ITEM INTO RECORD
]
>> THANK YOU.
INTRODUCTIONS, PLEASE.
>> COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF.
>> THANK YOU.
AND JUST TO SET THE STAGE, BACK
IN DECEMBER WE HEARD THE
SEATTLE WOMEN'S EXCISIONS
REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
EARLIER THIS MONTH WE REVIEWED
A DRAFT RESOLUTION.
SINCE THAT TIME THIS RESOLUTION
HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN INTRODUCED
AND REFER TODAY COMMITTEE.
WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION
ABOUT THE RESOLUTION AND I
INTEND TO VOTE ON IT IF THERE
ARE NO CHANGES THAT WE MAKE
TODAY.
I DO WANT TO COMMENT ON A
COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HEARD
IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, ONE, THE REPRESENTATIVE
FROM THE RENTAL HOUSE
ASSOCIATION ADD CONCERNS ABOUT
THAT WE WERE NOT ENOUGH TO ADD
FUNDING FOR EVICTION PRESENTIAL
SERVICES AND THAT WE HAD NOT
SO, AND IN FACT, WE ADDED
NEARLY $600,000 OVER THE LAST
BUDGET DISCUSSION.
I AM NOT SAYING IT IS ENOUGH,
BUT WE ARE VERY AWARE OF HOW
MUCH EVICTION PREVENTION FUNDS
CAN HELP APROUD E. COLI AVOID
EVICTIONS.
ALSO, I HAVE HEARD A OF FOLKS
SPEAK TODAY ABOUT WHAT THE
INTENT OF THE RESOLUTION IS.
I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE
INTENT OF THE RESOLUTION IS TO
IDENTIFY THE PROBLEMS AND AS A
COUNCIL, EMBRACE THE PROBLEMS
AS IDENTIFIED AS PROBLEMS THAT
WE FEED TO SOLVE AND MAKE SURE
TO THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE
COMMUNITY ARE UNITED IN SOL
OFFING THE ISSUES.
AND WE DO INTEND TO FOLLOW THIS
RESOLUTION WITH AN ORDNANCE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL UNIQUE LORD
TEN GNAT LAWS IN ADDITION TO
THE STATE LANDLORD TEN GNAT
WANT AND WE DO HAVE THE
AUTHORITY HERE IN SEATTLE TO
WORK ON SOME OF THE ISSUES.
THERE IS A PARALLEL EFFORT
GOING ON AS WELL TO DO REALLY
IMPORTANT REFORM.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL PASS IT
OFF.
>> OKAY.
SO THIS RESOLUTION 31861, IT IS
BASICALLY THE SAME AS THE WE
TALKED ABOUT IN OUR LAST
COMMITTEE MEETING.
I JUST NOTE THAT THERE IS AN
ADDITION OF TWO WHERE AS
CLAUSES, YOU WILL SEE ON PAGE
ONE, IT IS THE FOURTH AND FIFTH
ONE THAT HIGHLIGHT THE IMPACTS
OF LGBT COMMUNITY AND SENIORS.
OTHER WISE, IT IS BASICALLY THE
SAME.
AS THE DRAFT WE DISCUSSED IN
COMMITTEE AONIAN 8th.
AND SO I WILL DO JUST A QUICK
SUMMARY OF WHAT IS IN THE
RESITE THES AND THEN WHAT IS IN
THE REST OF THE LEGISLATION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> BLESS YOU.
SO, THE RECITALS GO THROUGH AND
TALK ABOUT THE CAUSES AND
IMPACTS, SOME KEY FINDINGS FROM
LOSING HOMES, SEATTLE WOMEN'S
COMMISSION REPORT.
AND THEN IT CONTINUES TO
MEMORIZE THE AX IT IS A THE
COUNCIL TOOK DURING THE
BUCKETED PROCESS, THE
STATEMENTS OF LEGISLATIVE
INTINT THAT IT ASKED
DEPARTMENTS TO RESPOND TO, AS
WELL AS FUNDING THAT WAS
PROVIDED IN THINGS LIKE, OH,
EVICTION PREVENTION, RESOURCES
TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO
TENANTS.
AND THEN LANGUAGE AROUND THE
ORDNANCE AND INCREASING THE
TIME PERIOD TO GET A NON
PAYMENT OF RENT.
AND LASTLY, GIVING THE COURTS
THE ABILITY TO GIVE RESTITUTION
FOR GOOD CAUSE.
AND SO THE REST OF THE
LEGISLATION IS SPLIT INTO TWO
MAJOR PARTS.
IT OUTLINES SOME OF THE
PROBLEMS THAT COUNCIL WILL BE
ADDRESSING IN THE NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN A COUPLE OF THINGS
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN THE
LONGER TERM.
SO THE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE
LOOKING AT THIS YEAR INCLUDE
THE NEXT SEVEN THINGS, WHICH
ARE LOOKING FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS
FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE.
OFTEN HELD DAMAGES CAUSED FROM
THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AND TEMPORARY UNEMPLOYMENT,
MEDICAL EMERGENCIES, DEATH IN
THE FAMILY, THAT SORT OF THING.
LOOKING AT THE LACK OF
AWARENESS AND UNDERSTANDING
AROUND THE EVICTION PROCESS
ITSELF, THE THINGS LIKE MUTUAL
TERMINATION AGREEMENTS, SOME
LACK OF AWARENESS AND RIGHTS
FOR TEN TENANTS.
AND LOOKING AT LATE FEES, COURT
COSTS, THINGS THAT ADD ANOTHER
BURDEN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
ALREADY MAYBE FACING A
DIFFICULTY JUST PAYING THE RENT
CHARGES.
THE NEXT ONE IS LOOKING AT
PROVISIONS THAT PROHIBIT TENANT
TO HAVE A ROOMMATE OR ONES THAT
GIVE LANDLORDS THE DESECRATION
TO BE ABLE TO REFUSE A REQUEST
FOR A ROOMMATE, EVEN IN
UNREASONABLE REJECTION OF OF
THAT REJECT, OR THE ABILITY TO
ADD EXTRA FEES OR SCREENING
CRITERIA FOR A POTENTIAL
ROOMMATE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE LEASE
TERMINATION FEES.
SO IF YOU HAVE TO END YOUR
LEASE BEFORE THE END OF THE
TERM, THEY CAN BE HIGH AND IT
IS EASY, IN THIS MARKET, FOR A
LANDLORD TO RERENT AN UNIT AND
THE REQUIREMENT IS TO MAKE A
REASONABLE EFFORT TO DO SO.
AND LASTLY LOOKING AT WHAT I
MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE
COURTS ABILITY TO HAVE THE
DISCRETION TO STAY IN ACTION,
IF THE TENANT HAS GOOD CAUSE
FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY THEIR
RENT.
SO OVER THE LONGER TERM, IN THE
NEXT YEAR, AND THEN OVER THE
LOCKER TERM, COUNCIL IS ALSO
LOOK AGENT HOW TO ADDRESS
ISSUES LIKE TENANTS WHO NEED
MORE SUPPORT DURING THE
EVICTION PROCESS BECAUSE OF
PHYSICAL OR MENTAL HEALTH
DISORDERS OR THEY ARE IN THE
HOSPITAL.
AND THE PERSON WHO IS ON THE
LEASE, THEY PASS AWAY, THOSE
PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO
RE-MINE MAIN IN THE UNIT, SO
LOOKING AT HOW TO LOOK AT THE
IMPACTS AND THEN LOOKING AT HOW
TO DECREASE THE IMPACT OF
HAVING LANDLORD TENANT DEBT IN
A CREDIT REPORT.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.
AND SO I, HOW I SEE THE
COUNCIL, WOULD BE PROCEEDING,
ASSUMING PASSAGE AT FULL
COUNCIL A WEEK FROM THIS
MONDAY, IS THAT FOR ITEMS A
THROUGH G, UM, WE WOULD DEVELOP
SOME OPTIONS AND ALTERNATIVES
FOR WAYS TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES AND WE WOULD HOPEFULLY
USE THIS COMMITTEE AS THE PLACE
WHERE WE CAN DO DELIBERATION
AROUND WHICH OPTIONS WE WANT TO
PURSUE.
AND FOLD INTO AN ORDNANCE
ADDRESSING THOSE ITEMS.
UM, I ALSO JUST WANTED UNDER
SCORE, OR FLAG MY ENTERS IN
ADDRESSING THE ISSUE THAT WAS
IDENTIFIED.
I WOULD PRESUME THAT A LANDLORD
EXTORTING SEX FOR RENT IS
ALREADY ILLEGAL, AND WOULD BE
COVERED UNDER THE PROHIBITED
ABOUTS LOCALLY, INCLUDING
HARASSMENT, BUT IT IS, I THINK
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAYBE
FEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT TO
SEE WHETHER OR NOT SORT OF THE
GENERAL PROHIBITION AGAINST
HARASSMENT AGAINST TENANTS IS
SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE AS WELL.
COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS,
THOUGHTS?
>> THANKS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
ON THIS RESOLUTION.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE
FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY AND
IN PREVIOUS MEETING AND THE
WORK THAT OTHERS DID TO BRING
THIS INFORMATION FORWARD.
IT IS, OH, IT IS ASTONISHING,
UM, HOW SIGNIFICANT THIS CRISIS
AROUND EVICTION IS AND THE
RESULTS HAVE DIRECT IMPACTS ON
FOLKS ON THE CRISIS AROUND
HOMELESSNESS.
IT IS ALSO REALLY HARD TO HEAR
ABOUT THE STORIES THAT WE HEARD
TODAY, ANDS WILL WEEK, AND THE
TIMES RAN A GOOD STORY ON HOW
$2 CAN BE THE CAUSE FOR
EVICTION.
IT IS, IT IS AN APPARENT TO ME
THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE
CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY TO
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE, OR
COMPLETELY ELIMINATE EVICTION.
AND OX I WILL THE CITY HAS A
ROLL TO PLAY IN TO THAT TO LOOK
AT HOW WE CAN DELIVER SOME OF
RESOURCES KNOWS HELP OUT FOLKS
THAT ARE STRUGGLING, BUT, BUT
THE CURRENT STRUCTURE REALLY
MAKES IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR
THAT TO HAPPEN.
AND WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOME
FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE THAT
HAPPEN.
IT IS A GREAT FIRST STEP, IT
ALONE DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING,
BUT I THINK IT MAKE IT A CLEAR
PATH FOR HOW WE CAN MOVE
SWIFTLY TO ADDRESS THIS AND IT
IS GREAT TO HERE THAT THEY ARE
TRYING TO MAKE CHANGES
ELSEWHERE, INCLUDING AT THE
STATE LEVEL, WHICH WILL BE
GREAT TO SEE.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
YES, I AGREE THAT THE
RESOLUTION IS AN IMPORTANT STEP
FORWARD.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO
TESTIFIED TODAY, I KNOW YOU
HAVE JOBS TO GO TO AS WELL, AND
ALSO FOR FIGHTING THIS FIGHT,
IT IS NOT EASY WHEN YOU HAVE
EVERYTHING ELSE PRESSING ON
YOU, INCLUDING CHILD CARE AND
EVERYTHING: AND ALSO, I WANT
TO CALL OUT MELODY FOR COMING
HERE AFTER DOING THE ONE NIGHT
COUNT, IT IS REALLY, REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT YOU CAME HERE.
AND YES, I AGREE WE SHOULD BE
FOLLOWING UP WITH ORDNANCES AS
YOU LAID OUT.
ALSO, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
THE NUMBERS.
THE STUDY FROM THE HOUSING
JUSTICE PROJECT SHOWED WHAT
NUMBERS WE HAVE IN TERMS OF
EVICTIONS, DUST EVICTIONS
DISTRICT 2, AND 3, THE MOST
VULNERABLE.
AND WHEN YOU DO THE MATH, IN
DISTRICT THREE, IN THE WHOLE
YEAR OF 2017 THERE WERE MORE
THAN 250 EVICTIONS THAT
HAPPENED
AND THESE ARE NUMBERS FROM THE
COURT CASES.
I MEAN THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE
ARE A LOT MORE RENTER WHOSE GET
EVICTED WHO DO NOT GO TO COURT.
SO I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY
THAT IT IS MUCH GREATER.
PERHAPS ADDING UP TO ONE
EVICTION A DAY.
SO IT IS REALLY AN EPIDEMIC
THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN
EACH OF OUR DISTRICTSMENT SO
THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT
STEP FORWARD.
AND THIS IS PURE-FEAR--THIS IS
TOTALLY FEAR MONGERING, IT IS
NOT NEW TO US.
THE O TELL LOBBY, THE
RESTAURANTS LOBBY, THIS IS WHAT
THEY DO, THEY FEAR MONGER AND IT
IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL
EMPOWER OURSELVES WITH THE DATA
AND EMPOWER RENTER TOSS FIGHT
THIS AND NOT ACCEPT THE LIES
THAT SOME HOW STRENGTHENING THE
POWER OF RENTERS IS GOING TO
LEAD TO SOME SORT OF DEMISE FOR
THE RENTAL MARKET ITSELF, WHICH
IS NOT GOING HAPPEN.
>> JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT A
LITTLE BIT, ABOUT WHAT THE
ACTUAL IMPACTS ARE ARE LIKELY
TO BE IN SEATTLE, COMPARED TO
LOCATIONS.
AN ATTORNEY WITH THE HOUSING
JUSTICE PROJECT MADE NOTE THAT
FEMA ROANEN HAD PRACTICED LAW
IN NEW YORK CITY PREVIOUSLY AND
HE MADE NOTE THAT THE PRACTICES
THAT HE SEES HAPPEN IN
WASHINGTON STATE, IF THEY WERE
OCCURRING IN NEW YORK CITY,
THEY WOULD BE DETERMINED
LEGALLY TO BE CONSIDERED
HARASSMENT, AND THAT INCLUDES
THE FREQUENT AND PERVASIVE
PRACTICE OF EVICTIONS FOR NON
PAYMENT OF RENT FOR A MONTH OF
RENT OR LESS, OF WHICH, IN THIS
STUDY, 87% OF THE EVICTIONS
WERE FOR NON PAYMENT OF RENT
AND OVER HALF WERE FOR A MONTH
OR LESS.
AND SO AGAIN, IN OTHER PLACES,
EVICTIONS FOR THAT CAUSE WOULD
BE CONSIDERED HARASSMENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING BACK
ON HOW THE ORDNANCE WAS FIRST
PASSED, IN 1980, THANKS TO THE
ADVOCACY AND ORGANIZING OF
COMMUNITY GROUPS AND PEOPLE
WORKING TOGETHER, THE FRAME
THAT WAS USED THEN, IN 1980,
FOR PASSAGE OF THE JUST CAUSE
EVICTION ORDNANCE A REGULATION
GIVING TENANTS MORE RIGHTS TO
OPPOSE NO CAUSE EVICTIONS,
SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
EXCLUSIVELY IN THIS STATE, ONLY
HERE IN SEATTLE, THAT, THE
FRAME THAT WAS USED FOR THAT
WAS, UM, HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION.
THAT IS WAY, UM, THAT LAW WAS
ABLE TO BE PASSED IN 1980,
BECAUSE OF THE UPSURGE IN
HOMELESSNESS THAT THEY WERE
SEEING THEREMENT AND IT IS TRUE
THAT WE FEED TO ADDRESS
HOMESNESS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT
WAYS, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO
FUND EVICTION PREVENT FUNDS AND
WE NEED TO BUILD MORE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT AND COMPONENT IS TODAY, AND
ALWAYS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN IS
ADDRESSING THE RIGHTS OF
TENANTS.
SO I AM REALLY PROUD TO WORK
WITH THE TWO OF YOU AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ADDRESS
THIS ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN NEAR
AND DEAR TO MY HEART FOR A LONG
TIME.
SO IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS, I WILL CALL A VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR OF
VOTING FOR RESOLUTION 31861
VOTE AYE.
>> AYE.
>> AND IT MOVES AND PASSES ONTO
FULL COUNCIL MONDAY AFTER NEXT.
THANKS AGAIN.
>> AGENDA ITEM 2.
>> [ READING ITEM INTO RECORD
]
>>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
>>> BRINE, COUNCIL STAFF.
>> AND ENGINEERING, PROJECT
DELIVERY.
>> AND I AM CHRIS, THE MANAGER
OF THE ENGINEERING AND
TECHNICAL RESOURCES FOR SEETHES
PUBLIC UTILITIES.
>> THANK YOU, LET'S LEARN ALL
ABOUT WHAT THIS IS.
>> SURE, I WILL JUST BRIEFLY
STATE, SO THE BILL DOES RELATE
TO THE CITY VERTICAL AND
HORIZONTAL POINTS.
AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
REQUIRED AND THE NOTICE FOR
THAT WAS DONE ON DECEMBER 17th.
AND THEN SECOND, THE ORIGINAL
BILL IS INTRODUCED AND
CONTAINED SOME ERRORS IN IT AND
THERE IS APOSED SUBSTITUTE IN
OUR PACKETS, IT IS JUST VERSION
D2.
>> OKAY, GREAT.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
GREAT.
SO SO JUST VERY BRIEFLY, A
LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT
KIND OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL
STRUCTURE OF THE CITY
DEPARTMENT.
SO BACK IN 997, SEETHE PUBLIC
YOUTY UNTIL WAS CREATED AND BY
A COMBINATION OF THE SEATTLE
WATER DEPARTMENT AND THE SEWER
AND DRINKER PIECES OF THE
SEATTLE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
WAS CREATED.
SO AT THE TIME, IT WAS DECIDED
THAT THE LAND SURVEY FUNCTION
WOULD STAY WITHIN THE SEATTLE
PUB UTILITIES.
AND SO WE PROVIDE MOST OF THE
LAND SURVEYING ACTIVITIES FOR
MOST OF THE DEPARTMENTS OF THE
CITY OF SEATTLE.
THE LAND SURVEY GROUP IS THE
LARGEST GROUP ACROSS THE CITY.
AND WE HAVE THE MOST LICENSED
PROFESSIONAL SURVEYORS AND WE
PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING SERVICES.
FIRST OF ALL, WE PROVIDE BASE
MAPPING SERVICES TO SUPPORT
PROJECTS FOR THE CAPITOL
DEPARTMENTS, MAINLY SEATTLE
CITY LIGHT, SPU, AND SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
>> CAN I PAUSE FOR A QUICK
SECOND IN.
>> SURE.
>> I BELIEVE THERE IS A
PRESENTATION AND IT IS NOT
GOING.
>> THIS IS JUST THE
INTRODUCTION, STORY.
>> OKAY, I SAW THE BACKGROUND,
OKAY.
>> YES, THIS IS BACKGROUND, I
AM SORRY.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT
OUT.
ALSO ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN
RIGHT OF WAY MONUMENTS AND WE
DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN THE CITY
BASE MAP SURVEYORS.
SO IT IS IN THIS ROLL AS THE
MAINTENANCE THAT WE ARE COMING
TO YOU TODAY TO DISCUSS THE
CHANGE IN ORDNANCE.
>> NOW WE WILL GET TO THE
PRESENTATION.
SO FIRST OF ALL, A DAY PA POINT
IS THE REFERENCE POINT FOR ALL
CONSTRUCTION, SO EVERYTHING IS
BASED OFF OF A CON POINT AND
THAT WAY, IT, AS THE ECONOMY IS
DEVELOPED, IT HAS SOME
COMMONNESS BETWEEN PROJECTS SO
THERE IS NO QUESTIONS AND THE
IMAGE SHOWS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT
TO HAVE A COMMON DATA POINT.
>> DID THAT HAPPEN WHEN THERE
WAS NOT ONE?
>> IT IS JUST AN ILLUSTRATION
ILLUSTRATION.
AND SHORTLY AFTER OF THE CITY
BECAME A CITY, THIS POINT WAS
ESTABLISHED IN 1877, IT WAS SET
AT THE TOP OF THE STEP OF THE
DEXTER HORTON BANK.
THEY COLLECTED INFORMATION ON A
MARKER THAT WAS SET ON A PEER
AND THEY OBSERVED THAGE HIGH
TIDES FOR SEVEN WEEKS AND BASED
ON THAT IS WHERE THEY SET THE
POUT: AS THEY GET MORE
INFORMATION, BETTER INFORMATION
IN 1883, THEY DECIDED THAT THEY
BETTER AMEND IT BECAUSE IT WAS,
THE THINGS WERE NOT FLOWING
PROPERLY.
SO IN 1883 THEY ADJUSTED THE
POINT.
AND IN 1898, THEY HAD THE GREAT
FIRE AND THEY THAT POINT WAS
WIPED OUT, SO THEY NEEDED TO
ESTABLISH A NEW POINT.
THIS POINT WAS ESTABLISHED AT
THE PIONEER BUILDING AND IT WAS
SET IN 1891.
AND I TOOK THAT PHOTO, IT IS
ACTUALLY STILL THERE, I TOOK
THAT A MONTH AGO.
SO THAT POINT IS STILL THERE.
GOING 2003, THE CITY DECIDED TO
ADOPT THE NATIONAL STANDARD AND
THE POINTS WERE ESTABLISHED BY
THE NATIONAL SURVEY, THE CAT
TESTIMONIES, FOR HORIZONTAL
1983, AND IT WAS THE 1981
ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS SET IN THE
ORDNANCE IN 2003.
THE CURRENT DATUM IS NOW, OH,
2000, IT IS 2011.
AND IN 2022, THE NATIONAL
SURVEY WILL AGAIN CREATE A NEW
ADJUSTMENT AND SO AT THAT
POINT, EVERYTHING WILL SHIFT
AGAINMENT.
>> SO UP UNTIL 2003, UM, WELL I
SHOULD SAY UP TO WELL, 1891,
THE DATUM WAS ESTABLISHED, THE
CITY DID IT.
>> CORRECT.
>> AND THEN AFTER THAT,
STARTING IN 2003, WE ADOPTED AN
ESTABLISHED DATUM BY THE
NATIONAL SURVEY?
>> CORRECT.
>> AND SO IS THERE A DIFFERENCE
IN HOW WE VERSES THEY
ESTABLISHED THE DATUMS?
>> WELL, THE CITY MEASURED THE
HIDE TIDE AND THEN SET A POINT.
THE, THE NATIONAL SURVEY HAS
DONE AN EXTENSIVE NET WORK
ADJUSTMENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE
UNITED STATES AND THIS IS THE
SAME DATUM THAT THE STATE HAS
ADOPTED.
AND THE KING COUNTY, MOST EVERY
COUNTY IN THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON HAS ADOPTED THE
DATUMS AS WELL.
THIS IS, OH, A PICTURE FROM OUR
STANDARDS AND SPECIFICATIONS.
ZOOM IN HERE.
THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT DATUMS
THAT HAVE BEEN ACROSS THE CITY,
WE HAVE USED LOW WATER, THE
CORE OF ENGINEERS DATUM, THE
OBSOLETE CITY OF SEATTLE DATUM,
THE KING COUNTY METRO DATUM,
ENGINEERING 29 AND THEN MAVD88.
AND IF YOU AT THIS CHART ON THE
OTHER SIDE, THOSE ARE THE
ACTUAL 0 POINTS, THEY DO NOT
ALL ACTUALLY LINE UP.
SO WE HAVE TO KEEP, AS THE CITY
HAS CHANGED AND ADOPTED
DIFFERENT DATUMS, WE HAVE TO,
WE WILL, AGAIN, HAVE TO UPDATE
THIS CART TO REFERENCE THE NEW
DATUM IN 2022.
>> WE WILL NOT NEED TO UPDATE
THE LEGISLATION IN 2022?
>> NO, THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF
THE WAY THAT THE LEGISLATION IS
WRITTEN.
IN 2003 IT WAS LOCKED INTO
8391MENT AND IT HAS BEEN
CANINGED SINCE THEN, AND THE
WAY IT IS WRITTEN NOW, IT IS
FOLLOWING THE STATE.
THE STATE IS DOING THE SAME
THING.
THEY ARE AMENDING THE RCWs AND
THE REVISED CODE OF WASHINGTON,
WASHINGTON ADMINISTRATIVE
CODES, TO REFLECT THE CHANGES
THAT ARE COMING, AND THEN THEY
WON'T HAVE TO REWRITE THEIR
LAWS AS WELL.
SO WE ARE WRITING THIS
ORDNANCE, OR THE AMENDMENT TO
THE ORDNANCE, IT WILL FOLLOW
THE NATIONAL STANDARD MOVING
FORWARD.
>> OKAY GREAT.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IF WE DO
THIS LEGISLATION WE WILL NOT
BACK HERE AGAIN.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> WE WILL GIVE YOU AUTHORITY,
I AM, MY QUESTION TO YOU,
CHAIR, ARE WE WILLING TO GIVE
UP DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DATUMS?
>> JOKING ASIDE, I KNOW HOW
IMPORTANT THIS IS, CERTAINLY.
AND I THINK THIS PATH SEEMS
GOOD.
>> ALL RIGHT, GREAT.
THANK YOU.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR
THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND IT IS
MR. ALEX AND HE IS NOT HERE.
SO IS THERE NOBODY ELSE HERE TO
SPEAK.
I WILL THOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
AND WE WILL BE BACK AGAIN IN
OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING TO
PASS THIS.
SO THANK YOU.
>> THANKS FOR YOUR WORK.
>> ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AGENDA ITEM 3.
>> [ READ ITEM INTO RECORD ]
>> HI, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> SEATTLE PUBLIC EWE
UTILITIES.
>> THAT YOU THINK VERY MUCH FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE
TODAY TO TALK ABOUT OUR SEISMIC
STUDY.
BEFORE ALEX GETS INTO THE
DETAILS OF OUR METHODS AND
FINDINGS, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK
ABOUT THE STUDY AND THE CONTEXT
OF THE BROADER EFFORTS TO
ENSURE A STRONG WATER SYSTEM.
AND WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THAT?
>> CAN YOU CHECK TO BE SURE
THAT THE MICROPHONE IS ON.
>> SORRY.
>> IT IS ALL RIGHT.
>> FOR US IT MEANS THE
ABILITIES TO RECOVER FROM
SUDDEN OR SLOW STRESSORS THAT
IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO SERVE OUR
CUSTOMERS.
SO, PREPARING FOR AN EARTHQUAKE
IS JUST ONE PART OF SPU'S
RESILIENCY FRAMEWORK, WHICH WE
ARE WORKING ON.
IT IS NOW MOST, VERY RECENTLY,
A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE
HAVE A RISK AND RESILIENCY
FRAMEWORK AND THAT IS DUE IN
2020.
THAT FRAME WORK WILL GUIDE YOU
UNTIL ANY IN ADDRESSING A WILL
THE OF RISKS, SUCH AS CLIMATE
CHANGE, FIRE, CYBER ATTACKS,
ECONOMIC CHANGES, EARTHQUAKES,
AND OTHER EMERGENCIES.
AND SEISMIC STUDY BELLS ON
EFFORTS THAT STARTED IN THE
1900s NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THE
RISKS, SUCH AS THE SEATTLE
FAULT.
AND OVER THE PAST THREE DECK
RAIDS, OUR REPAIRS HAVE BEEN
INVESTING IN SEISMIC UPGRADES
TO THE SYSTEM AROUND $100
MILLION AND THESE IMPROVEMENTS
INCLUDE ROSE VERY RETRO FITS.
AND IN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF
SOME OF THE IMPORTANT
CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE, ARE
RELATIVELY RESENTMENT HOWEVER,
THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE HAVE
SHOWN OVER AND OVER SINCE THEY
SAW THE NEED TO CREATE A WATT
OTHER SYSTEM AFTER 55 CITY
BLOCKS WERE WIPED OUT 130 YEARS
AGO, THAT THEY HAVE THE DESIRE
TO RESPOND TO AND RECOVER FROM
ADVERSITY.
SO I WILL ASK ALEX TO TALK
ABOUT THE PLAN NOW.
>> THANKS, MOMMY.
SO TODAY I WILL COVER THE
SEISMIC STUDY IN A HIGH LEVEL.
HAPPY TO PROVIDE DETAIL OR
ANSWER QUESTIONS AS NEEDED.
WE WILL GO A LITTLE BIT INTO
THE BACKGROUND, AS WELL AS WHAT
THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE
STUDY INCLUDE.
AND SOME BASIC THEMES I WANTED
TO COVER TODAY, UNDER PENNING
THE OVERALL EFFORT, IS THAT
THIS IS A LONG DECADES EFFORT
AND IT ALSO FITS INTO THE
OVERALL FRAME WORK.
IT IS ONE SO OUR WAYS TO BE
CONTINUING TO BE FORWARD
THINKING, AND ALSO, TO FORM A
SEISMIC PROJECT INTO THE
OVERALL CAPITOL BUDGET, SINCE
WE HAVE MANY DRIVERS FOR
CAPITOL AND OPERATING AND TO
TRY TO BALANCE OF THOSE AGAINST
RATE AFFORDABILITY, WHICH WE
KNOW IS A CAN'TING CONCERN, AS
WE SHARE, BECAUSE THIS IS A
LARGE EFFORT, IT TOUCHES MORE
THAN ON JUST OUR DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
CITY, WITHIN THE OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY MAN MANAGEMENT,
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND
OTHERS, WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS,
OUR RETAIL CUSTOMERS, THROUGH
ADVISORY GROUPS, OTHER
INTERESTED PARTIES IN THE SIRE
TO BALANCE FORWARD THINKING.
>> THE, I AM JUST WONDERING OR
NOT THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAY OF
MEASURING THE INVESTMENT TODAY
AS DEMONSTRATED HERE VERSES IN
THE REPORT.
I THINK THE REPORT USED THE
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, AID THAT $60
MILLION HAD BEEN INVESTED TO
DATE AND I HAVE ALSO BEEN
HEARING THAT WE HAVE BEEN
REFERENCING THE INVESTMENT
NUMBER OF 100 MILLION DOLLARS
RECENTLY.
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE
ARE MEASURING?
>> IT MOSTLY REFLECTS
CONTINUING PROS SO BIT TIME THE
STUDY WAS ABOUT WRAPPED UP, WE
WERE DOING OTHER SEISMIC WORK.
AND SO THAT SPEAKS TO MOST OF
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO
NUMBERS.
>> AND UM, I KNOW, A LOT OF
THIS WORK IS, UM, PART OF OTHER
WORK, RIGHT?
AND SO, IT CAN SOMETIMES BE
HARD TO POINT TO A DISCREET
PROJECT AND SAY OH, THAT IS A
SEISMIC PROJECT.
BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU
COULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE
DETAIL, FINER DETAIL, ON THOSE,
THOSE INVESTMENTS, THOSE $100
MILLION IN INVESTMENTS, THE
SEISMIC WORK IS A DISCREET
PIECE OF THE WORK AND FOR THOSE
PROJECTS WHERE IF THERE IS A
WAY TO LURCH THEM INTO THE
CATEGORY, THAT THEY ARE PART OF
ALARMINGER PROJECT.
>> YES, AND I CAN SAY THAT THE
$60 MILLION $60 MILLION TO $100
MILLION IS MOSTLY SEISMIC
DONALD TRUMP.
AND IN SEISMIC DRIVEN.
AND IN THE EARLY 2000s, THE
SEISMIC COMPONENT WAS A PIECE
OF THE PUZZLE, SO WE THINK THEY
WILL PERFORM FAIRLY WELL IN THE
TERRIBLE EARTHQUAKE THAT WE ARE
NOW DESIGNING FOR, THAT IS
HELPFUL.
SO THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS ARE
NOT COUNTED.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> SO THE IMPORTANCE OF WATER
POST EARTHQUAKE IS, MOSTLY THE
THINKS ARE FIRE PROTECTION, YOU
KNOW, DURING THE 1989 QUAKE IN
THE BAY AREA, MUCH OF THE
MARINA DISTRICT HAD SIGNIFICANT
FIRES AND LIMITED WATER FOR
FIRE FIGHTING.
PUBLIC HEALTH, DRINKING, EVERY
DAY LIFE, AND KEEPING THE
BUSINESS OF THE CITY RUNNING
HERE.
IN RECENT EARTHQUAKES, THIS IS
A TABLE THAT ILLUSTRATES FIVE
EARTHQUAKES OVER THE LAST 30 OR
SO YEARS.
AND THE BASIC THEMES ARE THAT
THE DAMAGE FROM THE QUAKES WAS
FIRES AND LARGE WATER OUTAGES,
MUCH LONGER THAN THE THREE
DAYS, THREE WAYS THAT WAS BEING
PLANNED FOR DECADES AGO.
IN SOME CASES, TAKING SLOW
PERIODS TO RECOVER SERVICE,
TAKING 45 PLUS, OR 60 DAYS TO
RECOVER FULL SERVICE WITH THE
RECOVERY SOME SOFT FOLKS EARLY
ON, AND AS THE SYSTEM RECOVERS,
SLOW RECOVERY OVER TIME.
SO, THAT LEADS US TO WHERE WE
HAVE BEEN IN THE DRINKING
WATER.
IN 1990 WE STARTED THINKING
ABOUT SEISMIC PLANNING AND
CONDUCTED AN OVERALL STUDY.
AND I WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE
BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT HAS CHANGED
SINCE THEN.
BUT SINCE THAT STUDY, WE WENT
THROUGH A SERIES OPHIASIS MIKE
UPGRATE GRADES, THE $60 MILLION
TO 1 ONION $1 MILLION..
BACK IN 1990s THIS WAS A LOWER
HAZARD ZONE FROM AN OVERALL
PERSPECTIVE.
SINGLE DIGIT THEN, WE HAVE SEEN
FOR EXAMPLE, TWO FAULTS THAT
WERE KNOWN, DISCOVERED TO BE
MUCH MORE ACTIVE THAN THOUGHT.
THEY ARE THE SEATTLE FAULT
ZONE, WHICH IS A SHALLOW ZONE
FAULTING, NOT A DISCREET FAULT
WHERE YOU CAN WALK OVER AND
POINT TO WHERE THE MOTION WILL
BE, BUT A TWO TO THREE MILE
LONG BAND OF POTENTIAL
FAULTING, MUCH MORE DIFFICULT
TO PREDICT AND PLAN FOR.
THAT IS ONE, THE OTHER IS THE
CASCADE ZONE.
THAT IS THE EARTHQUAKE IN THE
NEW YORK ARTICLE IN 2015 AS THE
BIG ONE THAT WILL MAKE HALF OF
SEATTLE FALL INTO THE SEA, WE
DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO
HAPPEN, BUT WE WANT TO PLAN FOR
IT.
WE HAVE ALSO SEEN EARTHQUAKE
EXPERIENCE THAT HAS SHOWN
SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE THAT UNDER
PINS THE KIND OF FINDINGS THAT
WE ARE SEEING AS WELL.
LASTLY, WE ARE SEEING THAT OVER
THE LAST 20 TO 40 YEARS IN
JAPAN, WHERE THEY HAVE HAD MORE
EARTHQUAKES REGULARLY, THEY
HAVE DEVELOPED SYSTEMS FOR WATT
PIPE THAT ARE MUM MORE
EARTHQUAKE RESISTANT AND THEY
ARE COMING TO THE U.S. AND WE
ARE USING THEM.
SO THE STUDY IS LOOKING AT THE
HAZARDS, HOW OUR FACILITIES
WILL DO THE THEY ARE SHAKEN FOR
A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND
THEN PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER TO
SIMULATE HOW THE SYSTEM WILL
PERFORM, HOW PEOPLE ARE
ACTUALLY AFFECTED: AND THEN
DEVELOPING MEASURES OF A COUPLE
OF DIFFERENT VARIETIES AND
LOOKING AT THE TIME SCALE.
WHEN WE REPLACE FACILITIES,
HAVING WELL DEFINED STANDARDS
FOR HOW TO DESIGN THE MOST
RESILIENT OR SEISMIC AND OTHER
GOALS.
>> AND THE TWO PREVIOUS SLIDES,
YOU TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR
MASS PIPE, CAN YOU TALK A
LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT?
>> YES, UNTIL RENT I WILL IN
THE UNITED STATES, THERE WAS
NOT AN AMERICAN MANUFACTURER
WITH A PIPE WITH A CERTAIN TYPE
OF JOINING MA AND MAKES THE
PIPE ACT MORE FLEXIBLY TO IT
CAN CHANGE WITH GROUND MOTION,
INSTEAD OF BREAKING, IT WILL
MOVE AND STILL SAY FUNCTIONAL.
SO, THE JAPANESE HAVE BEEN
DEVELOPING THIS TYPE OF PIPE,
AND UNTIL RECENTLY, THERE WAS
NO WAY, LET'S SAY ON A PROJECT
WITH A BUY AMERICAN REQUIREMENT
TO GET THAT KIND OF PIPE GROUPS
HAVE BEEN WORKING OVER THE PAST
10, 15 YEARS TO DEVELOP SYSTEMS
AND TO FIND WAYS TO ALSO
INCLUDE THE JAPANESE PIPE
MANUFACTURERS IN BIDS WHERE THE
LAWS AND REQUIREMENTINGS ALLOW.
SO WE HAVE HAD SOME PROGRESS
MADE TO WHERE WE CAN USUALLY DO
A FEW PROJECTS AND FEEL LIKE WE
ARE USING THE LATEST
TECHNOLOGY.
>> IS THERE WORK THAT NEEDS TO
CONTINUE TO BE DONE SO THAT YOU
CAN ACTUALLY, OH, HAVE THE
ABILITY TO PURCHASE AS MUCH AS
YOU NEED?
OR IS THAT NOT A PROBLEM
ANYMORE?
>> AT THIS POINT THERE IS JUST
WORKING WITH THE MANUFACTURERS
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL HAVE
THIS WIDE OF A SWEET OF
POSSIBILITIES OUT THERE SO THAT
THE BIDDING PRICES CAN BE MORE
COMPETITIVE WORKING WITH LOCAL
CONTRACTORS TO LEARN HOW TO
INSTALL THESE TYPES OF PIPES.
IT IS A LEARNING CURVE.
BUT OTHER WISE, I THINK THE
FRAMEWORK IS FAIRLY WELL SET
AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BUILD
ON THAT.
>> AND IS THE PLAN TO, UM, TO,
AT SOME POINT, UM, MOVE TO ONLY
USING THESE KINDS OF PIPES?
OR, IS THIS SORT OF AN
APPROACH, OR A BEST PRACTICE
THAT YOU APPLY FOR WHEN YOU
NEED TO USE IT?
>> THAT IS PART OF THE STUDY.
AND THE IDEA THEN IS WHEN WE
DEFINE THE STANDARDS, ALSO
WHERE TO USE THEM.
SO THE TWO CATEGORIES ARE COOL
BONES, SO BEING SURE TO HAVE A
BACKBONE OF PIPPING FOR MOSTLY
FIRE FIGHTING.
AND PIPES THAT GO THROUGH
HAZARD ZONES, AREAS WHERE THE
PIPES WILL BE SUB CORRECT TO
BIG GROUND MOVEMENTS, USING
THAT SEISMIC DESIGN, WHERE
EVERYTHING ELSE, AREAS WHERE
PIPES ARE NOT ANTICIPATED TO
MOVE, LESS CRITICAL, NOT PAYING
THE PRICE PREMIUM TO INVEST IN
THAT STANDARD.
THERE IS AND CHARGE,
SIGNIFICANT MATERIAL PRICE
DIFFERENCE AND AN INSTALL COST.
>> THANK YOU.
>> SO ONE THING, JUST TO MAKE
CLEAR HERE IS THAT THE DESIGN
EARTHQUAKE 30 YEARS AGO IS
DIFFERENT THAN THE DESIGN SET
OF EARTHQUAKES NOWADAYS.
AND TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, I
THINK ALL OF US REMEMBER THE
2001 MIS-QUALITY WALK, THEN
BACK BEFORE THAT, AND IN
SIMILAR SIZE, 1965, 1949, I
THINK.
SOMETHING LIKE 6.5 TO 7.0
MAGNITUDE AND THOSE ARE WHAT WE
BASICALLY, WE ARE DESIGNING
AROUND.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TYPES OF
EARTHQUAKES THAT WE ARE LOOKING
AT THESE DAYS, WE HAVE A MUCH
GREATER POTENTIAL SHAKING AND
GROUND MOVEMENT THAN WAS
THOUGHT 30 YEARS AGO.
AND WE HAVE IS A VERY SHALLOW
E. COLI VENN, GOING ALL THE WAY
THROUGH THE CITY, ABOUT 7.0.
AND SO THE MAGNITUDE, YOU HAVE
TO CROSS REFERENCE IT AGAINST
THE ORIGIN.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ZONE,
9.0, MUCH LARGER, BUT MUCH
FARTHER AND DEEPER OFFSHORE, SO
THAT BY THE TIME THEWAVES GET
TO SEATTLE, MUCH LESS OF A
SHAKING, ALL THOUGH THE
DURATION OF SHAKING COULD BE
MUCH LONGER.
SO WE HAVE TO LOCK AT BOTH TO
TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ARE
MORE SENSITIVE TO WHAT KIND OF
SHORTER, SHARP ACCELERATIONS,
LESS SHARP, BUT LONGER PERIOD
ACCELERATIONS, SOME FACILITIES
ARE MORE SENSITIVE EATER WAY.
WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS THAT
THESE EARTHQUAKES THAT ARE THE
NEXT STEP ABOVE WHAT WE USED TO
PLAN FOR, THERE ARE IN THE
RAPING OF 15% TO 20% CHANCE OF
ONE OF THOSE HAPPENING IN THE
AN EX 50 YEARS.
WHEN WE GO DOWN TO THE HIGH
LEVEL, VERY LIKE SOMETHING LIKE
THAT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN IF THE
NEXT 50 YEARS.
THE WATER SYSTEM HAS PERFORMED
FAIRLY WELL IN THE LAST SEVERAL
EARTHQUAKES, MINOR DAMAGE, BUT
AGAIN I WILL, NO PERCEPTION OF
LOSS FROM THE PUBLIC, CONTINUED
WATER SUPPLY, AND SO WE THINK
THOSE WERE WELL SUITED FOR THAT
STYLE OF EARTHQUAKE.
IT IS THE MENTION LEVEL UP THAT
WE ARE NOW STARTING TO THINK
MORE ABOUT, BASED ON STUDIES
AND THE LAST FIVE, TEN, 15
YEARS.
SO, THIS MAP SHOWS THE TYPE OF
HAZARDS THAT WE NEED TO PLAN
FOR.
AND LOOKING AT THE CITY, THE
RED, THE PINK AND ORANGE SHOWS
ZONE OF POTENTIAL THRUST
FAULTS.
SO A LOT OF GROUND
DISPLACEMENT, MOVING AND
SHAKING, FROM THE SHALLOW OR
ORIGIN, AND IT IS NOT LIKE WHAT
YOU CAN PLAN FOR.
IT IS HOW ABOUT HOW DO YOU
THINK ABOUT HOW PLAN FOR THIS
OVER THIS LARGE RANGE, EATER IN
SELECTED PIPE IMPROVEMENTS,
WHOLE PIPE IMMOVEMENTS, RISK
MANAGEMENT BEING ABLE TO
RECOVER AFTER THE PIPES BREAK
AND MOVE.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE
WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE.
LAYERED ON TOP OF THOSE, THE
SEATTLE FAULT ZONE IS SHOWN IN
ORANGE IT IS ZONES WHERE THE
SOILS ARE NOT THAT GOOD AND IN
SHAKING, THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANY
BEARING POTENTIAL, THEY WILL
SLUMP, CAUSE THINGS THAT ARE
SUPPORTED ON THEM TO FAIL.
ALSO SHOWN IS THAT PING PINK OR
PURPLE, STEEP SLOPES.
>> ON THAT SLIDE, I NOTE THAT
ONE OF THE, UM, CRITERIA, OR
ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT LEAD
TO LIQUID ACTION IS KNOWN OR
POTENTIAL LANDSLIDES.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> AND THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I
HAVE HAD SOME INTEREST ON AS
ITRE LATEs TO THE FUNDING FROM
S D.O.T.
ALLOCATES TO ADDRESS LANDSLIDE
AREAS.
THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED IN ADVANCE
AS NEEDING PROACTIVE WORK, AND
UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE
HADED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING
IN THE BUDGET, IT WAS AN ONE
TIMED A OF ABOUT ABOUT $1.5
MILLION.
RIGHT NOW, THEY ONLY ALOE CASE
$100,000 A YEAR TO ADDRESS THE
KNOWN LOCATIONS, THESE ARE
SPECIFICALLY LOCATIONS THAT ARE
NEAR ARTERIALS AND THERE WAS A
LIST CREATED SEVERAL YEARS AGO,
OVER 20 YEARS AGO, I THINK IT
WAS, OH YEP, IT WAS ABOUT 20
YEARS AGO.
AND IT IDENTIFIED THE TOP 20 OR
SO LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE
CITY WHERE THERE NEEDED TO BE
PROACTIVE WORK DONE TO, UM,
MINIMIZE THE LIKELIHOOD OF
LANDSLIDES.
THEY HAVE BASICALLY BEEN ABLE
TO DO ANY PROACTIVE WORK AND
WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN USING THAT
MONEY FOR IS ONLY TO ADDRESS
MINOR SLIDE ACTIVITY THAT HAS
OCCURRED AT THE LOCATIONS AND
OTHER LOCATIONS.
AND SO IT IS VERY CONCERNING TO
ME THAT YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A
STUDY, AGAIN DONE ABOUT 20
YEARS AGO, THAT IDENTIFIED THE
HIGH RISK AREAS, NOT JUST HIGH
RISK, AGAINER FOR LANDSLIDES,
BUT HIGH RISK FOR LANDSLIDES
NEAR ARTERIALS.
SO YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL FOR HARM
TO PROPERTY AND PEOPLE.
SO I JUST WANT TO FLAG THIS, I
SEE THAT SPU IS WORKING WITH S
D.O.T.
ON ADDRESSING SOME SO THESE
KNOWN, OR POTENTIAL LANDSLIDES,
I WANT TO FLAG THIS AS
SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY HIGH
PRIORITY FOR ME TO REALLY BEGIN
TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE MAKE THE
INVESTMENTS TO DO THIS
PROACTIVE WORK, RATHER THAN
ALWAYS SPENDING THE FUNDS THAT
WE HAVE, THE LIMITED FUNDS THAT
WE HAVE, TOWARDS ADDRESSING THE
IMPACTS.
>> THANK YOU, WE WILL
DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH S D.O.T., INCLUDING THIS
PROJECT.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEARN MORE
ABOUT OUR WORK?
>> I WOULD.
>> AND ASSESSMENT, WE HAVE A
GREAT WHO DOES WORK IN THIS
AREA.
>> THAT WOULD BE REALLY
HELPFUL.
>> OKAY, WE WILL ARRANGE FOR A
BRIEFING.
>> MAYBE YOURSELF AND S D.O.T.
TOGETHER.
>> OKAY, THANKS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO THE VULNERABLE AN ASSESSMENT
IS LOOKING AT HAZARDS, HOW THE
PIECES AND PARTS PERFORM, PUT
IT ALL TOGETHER THROUGH A
COMPUTER MODEL.
THE RESULTS ARE TELLING US THAT
FOR A SEATTLE FAULT OWN AND AND
ZONE, THE RESULTS WILL BE SOME
WHAT SIMILAR, THAT IS NOT THAT
DIFFERENT FROM WHAT OTHER WEST
COAST UTILITIES HAVE
EXPERIENCED THIS NEW LEVEL OF
EARTHQUAKE, JAPANESE,
AUSTRALIAN, VERY SIMILAR, THAT
IS LARGE TRANSMISSION PIPELINES
úTHAT CONNECT OUR WATERSHEDS AN
TREATMENT PLANTS TO THE PEOPLE
IN TOWN.
GENERALLY LOST UNTIL THE CREWS
CAN GET OUT AND RECOVER AND
REPAIR.
THAT WE ARE DEPENDING THEN ON
THE STORAGE INSIDE OF THE CITY
LIMITS THAT WE HAVE AND THEN
THAT IMPACTED BY ALL OF THE
LEAKS THAT OCCUR FROM THE PIPES
INSIDE OF THE CITY LEAKING
THEMSELVES.
SO, THEN LOSS OF SOME OF THE
STORED WATER THAT COULD BE USED
FOR FIGHTING AND FOR PUBLIC
HEALTH, LOSS TO LEAKS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND
ASSOCIATED DAMAGE FROM THE
LEAKS.
AND WITH THAT, COMBINING ALL OF
THAT TOGETHER, A POTENTIAL LOSS
OF WATER PRESSURE, AVAILABLE
PRESSURE FOR FIRE FIGHTING AND
FOR DOMESTIC PUBLIC HEALTH
WITHIN A DAY OR SO, FOR THIS,
THESE EARTHQUAKES.
>> AND UM, WHO IS THE OWNER OF
THE EAST SIDE SUPPLY LINE?
>> WE ARE.
SO THERE IS NOT A MULTI-
JURISDICTIONAL COST SHARING
THING?
IT IS?
BECAUSE WE WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THE WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS USE
ABOUT HALF OF THE OVERALL WATER
IN THE SEATTLE SYSTEM AND THEY
COST SHARE IN CAPITAL AND ONM
WHEN IT COMES TO THE RENAL TYPE
OF PROJECTS, TRANSMISSION
PIPES, WATER SUPPLY, WATER
TREATMENT, SO WE ARE VERY
VISIBLY TALKING TO THEM ABOUT
THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT TO
DO NEXT, MAKING SURE THEY ARE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR
COLLABORATION, BUY IN, REGIONAL
WORK TOGETHER.
SO FOR A MITIGATION APPROACH,
WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE A LONG
TERM APPROACH AND FOCUS ON TWO
BUCKETS OF IMPROVEMENTS.
ONE IS, OH, WHAT CAN WE DO IN
THE RELATIVE SHORT TERM TO
IMPROVE THAT RESPONSE TIME,
GETTING PEOPLE BACK IN WATER,
KEEPING THE CITY GOING AFTER A
BAD EARTHQUAKE.
SO, WE HAVE EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE
PLANNING.
MOST NOTABLY HERE IS LOOKING AT
HOW MUCH REPAIR MATERIAL WE
HAVE IN STOCK AND HOW OUR STAFF
AND SUPPLEMENTAL OTHERS CAN BE
USED TO FIX THE PIPES, GET THE
SYSTEM BACK UP AND RUNNING.
ALWAYS WORKING WITH OEM AND
OUTSIDE CITY DEPARTMENTS.
OUTSIDE EXTERNAL AGENCIES ON
MAYING SURE THERE IS A PLAN FOR
PROVIDING EMERGENCY WATER FOR
PEOPLE.
WHETHER IT IS THROUGH THE ROSE
CZARS, BOTTLED WATER, OR OTHER
STRATEGIES.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ISOLATION
AND CONTROL, THAT MEANS WE NEED
TO PRESERVE THE WATER IF THE
SYSTEM TO BE USED AS NEEDED FOR
FIRE FIGHTING, DOMESTIC, OTHER
NEEDS.
SOME OF THE TANKS, HAVE SAYS
MICK OUTLET VALVES.
SO IN THE EVENT OAF A LARGE
EARTHQUAKE, THE VOL OFS WOULD
CLOSE AUTOMATICALLY.
THEY COULD BE OPENED AGAIN AS
NEEDED TO LET WATER OUT, AS
NEEDED FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES.
SO, PART OF THE STRATEGY MIGHT
BE WHAT OTHER VALVING MIGHT WE
WANT IN THE SYSTEM TO LOOK AT
THE EXISTING CAPABILITIES.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS, WHEN
WE TALK ABOUT STORAGE, WE WILL
FIND OUT IN A MINUTE THAT OUR
AMOUNT OF STORAGE IS LESS THAN
WHAT OTHER WEST COAST UTILITIES
HAVE, AND ONE VERY COST
EFFECTIVE WAY FOR US TO AUGMENT
THAT STORAGE IS TO KEEP
ROOSEVELT AND VOLUNTEERS IF
SERVICE FOR EMERGENCIES ONLY,
NON POTABLE, AND I WILL GET TO
THE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT MEANS
IN A MINUTE.
SO THEN GOING FROM FOR OR LESS
SHORT TERM TO LARGE SCALE
CAPITAL PROJECT KIND OF WORK IS
WHEN PIPES REACH THE END OF
THEIR LIFE, MAKE SURE THAT THEY
ARE DESIGNED WITH THE SEISMIC
STANDARDS MOONED AND THAT THEY
ARE WELL COMMUNICATED.
AND LOOK AT CRITICAL
FACILITIES.
A COUPLE OF AREAS JUMP OUT, THE
BIG TRANSMISSION PIPES, WHERE
THEY CROSS LIKE A RIVER, LIQUID
ZONES, LOOK AT THOSE POINT
SOURCES AND LOOK AT HOW TO
UPGRADE THOSE, AND WHEN YOU DO
THAT, TRY TO LOOK AT HOW TO DO
THAT MOST EFFECTIVELY.
WHEN YOU ADD ALL OF THE NUMB
PERS UP OVER 50 YEARS, IT IS A
FAIRLY LARGE AMOUNT, $15
MILLION TO $20 MILLION OF
CAPITOL PROJECTS.
BUT THAT INCLUDES SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNTS OF POINT SOURCE
CAPITALUP GRADES THAT ARE
SEISMICALLY DRIVEN AND WE TRIED
FOR THOSE, TO PROGRAM THE
LARGEST NUMBER, JUST TO BRACKET
HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK.
IN REALISTIC APPROACH, WHAT WE
DO, FOR EACH PROJECT, FOR ANY
DRIVER, WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK
AT THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY
TO REACH THAT GOAL, DESIRED
GOAL, TO RETAIN SERVICE.
SO, THE MOST COSTLY WAY TO DO A
RIVER CROSSING UPGRADE WOULD BE
TO DIG OUT THE EXISTING PIPES
AND PUT IN NEW ONES THAT
RESISTANTMENT IF RESISTANT.
APPROACH IS IF YOU NEED LESS
FLOW, YOU CAN UPGRADE ONE OF
THREE PIPES.
ANOTHER APPROACH, IS LIKE IN
THE PICTURE, SOME OF THE
CALIFORNIA UTILITIES, MORE
PREDICTABLE, STAY HAVE PUT IN
FLEXIBLE CONNECTIONS SO THAT
THE PIPES WILL BREAK, BUT THEY
CAN RESTORE SERVICE VERY COST
EFFECTIVELY, BUT NOT AS
IMMEDIATELY AS THE PIPE NEVER
BREAKING IN THE FIST PLACE.
SO WE WILL LOOK AT THE OPTIONS
THROUGH THE TYPICAL OPTIONS
ANALYSIS PROCESSES, BALANCING
RISK AGAINST PRICE, AND TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES THE
MOST SENSE.
IN SOME OF THE CASES, THE
NUMBERS THAT ADD UP MIGHT BE
LESS IF WE CAN FIND REASONABLE
WAYS TO BALANCE THAT RISK
AGAINST COST.
>> SO THE $15 MILLION TO 20
MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR S THAT
BASE ON FULL UPGRADES?
>> YES, MOST CONSERVATIVE
APPROACH THAT WE WERE LOOKING
TO DO.
AND I DO WANT TO SAY ABOUT
THAT, BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS
COME UP ABOUT HOW DOES THAT
AFFECT RATES OVER THE LONG
TERM?
AND THE TWO OINTS THAT I WANT
TODAY MAKE ARE THAT SIZE NICK
IS JUS ONE OF MANY DRIVERS AND
YOU ALL KNOW THAT VERY WELL
BASED ON THE BUSINESS PLAN
DISCUSSIONS, WHERE WE ARE
TRYING TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL
RATE PATH.
AND OUR MANY GOALS, THIS IS ONE
OF THEM.
AND THE OTHER ONE, WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE POINT UPGRADES, IT
IS PRETTY CONSERVATIVE TO LOOK
AT RATE IMPACTS ASSUMING THE
MOST CONSERVATIVE TYPE OF
UPGRADE OVER 50 YEARS, SO, WHAT
I WOULD SEW YOU HERE IS IN OUR
WATER SYSTEM PLAN, WHICH WE
PRESENTED TO YOU, TWO OR THREE
MONTHS AGO, THIS GRAPH SHOWS
THE LAST, OH, 20 OR 30 YEARS OF
CAPITAL SPENDING IN GRAY, AND
THEN THE NEXT PROJECTED 20
YEARS OF CAPITAL SPENDING IN
DIFFERENT COLORS.
I WILL MENTION THAT IN THE
HISTORY, THAT THE PATH HAS BEEN
RELATIVEBUTCH PINNELL PONZI AND
RELATIVELY BUMPY.
AND WE ARE MORE INTO A CON SIS
ANT CAPITAL FAZE AND WE ARE
GRADING WATER PAINS AND PIPES.
FACILITY PROJECTS ARE MORE
SPREAD OUT.
THIS IS TRYING TO SHOW THAT
SEISMC IS A PIECE OF THE
OVERALL PUZZLE.
FOR THE DRINKERRING WATER
SYSTEM, CAPITAL BUDGETING ABOUT
$80 MILLION A YEAR.
THE GREEN ARE ALMOST ALL
SEISMICALLY.
THE PURPLE IS PIPES DONALD
TRUMP BY MANY DIFFERENT DRIVERS
OF WHICH MAY BE 20% TO 25% IS
SEISMICALLY DRIVEN BY UPSIZING
THE APPROACH TO CERTAIN PIPE
WHEN YOU REPLACE THEM.
SO THAT IS THE EFFORT TO TRY TO
BLEND SEISMIC.
AND AS WE CONTINUE TO DO THE
UPDATES, RATE STUDIES, WE WILL
COP TO LOOK AT SEISMIC AS ONE
OF ALL OF THE DRIVERS AS THE
WHOLE PACKAGE.
>> AND HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO
THE PLAN THAT THE COUNCIL
ALREADY ADOPTED?
ARE THESE NUBERS NEW?
>> THEY ARE REFLECTED IN THE
BUSINESSMAN.
ADDS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT
THREE YEAR UPDADE OF THAT
PERIOD, WE WILL START TO SEE
SOME OF THOSE SEISMIC PROJECTS
B PUT IN THE NEXT THREE YEAR
PIECE OF THE UPDADE AND SO WE
WILL BE COMMUNICATING TO
ARRACKS MORE VIEW OUR CUSTOMER
REVIEW PANEL AND THEN THE
COUNCIL.
>> HOW DO YOU MANAGE FOR THE,
OH, THE REALITY THAT WE WILL
CONTINUE TO LEARN MORE OVER
TIME AND WE ARE MAKING
MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
INVESTMENTS.
OUR KNOWLEDGE TODAY IS VERY
DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT WAS 30
YEARS AGO.
AND I THINK 20 YEARS FROM NOW
WE WILL KNOW A LOT MORE, TOO.
AND YOU KNOW, I AM NOT ASKING
YOU TO PREDICT THE FUTURE,
UNLESS YOU CAN, THAT WOULD BE
GREAT.
BUT WHAT IS AN ENGINEERING
APPROACH TO THE LONG TERM
INVESTMENTS SO WE ARE NOT LIKE
OH, WE ARE GOING TEAR THAT OUT
AND START OVER AGAIN?
>> I WILL SAY OF THE PROJECTS
IN THE PAST, CERTAIN ONES
DESIGNED TO A LOWER STANDARD
THAN WHAT WE WANT TO DESIGN
AROUND.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, I CAN NOT
TELL THE FUTURE AND WHAT I CAN
SAY FROM AN ENGINEERING
STANDPOINT IS UNDERSTANDING THE
EXPERIENCE THAT OTHER UTILITIES
HAVE HAD, COMPARING NOTES WITH
THEM.
AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW TO
MANAGE SEISMIC RISK, TRYING TO
AIR ON THE SIDE OF
CONSERVATISM, IN TERMS OF
DESIGN, DO WE DESIGN MAYBE MORE
FLEXIBLE IN SOME OF THE PIPES
THAN WHAT WE THINK IS
ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
DOLING WITH RISK, SHOULD WE BE
MORE REPAIRED THAN WE THINK
THAT THE DESIGN MIGHT SUGGEST,
PROBABLY MAKES SOME GOOD SENSE.
THAT IS BASICALLY THE
ENGINEERING LIMIT OF WHAT WE
CAN TRY TO DO.
>> THAT IS GREAT.
>> RETURNING TO THE QUESTION
ABOUT THE BUSINESS PLAN.
SO THE, THE GRAPH SHOWS AN
UPTICK IN SPENDING IN 2024.
SO, DOES THAT MEAN THAT, UM,
IN, WHEN WE DO OUR THREE YEAR
UPDATE, THAT WE ARE GOING TO
LOOK AT MOVING SOME OF THE
PROJECTS FROM 2024 INTO THE
BUSINESS PLAN PERIOD?
AND YOU KNOW, HOW IS THAT GOING
TO IMPACT OUR ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
AFFORDABILITY.
BECAUSE I THINK IER A YOU
SAYING GRAPH IS ACCURATE FOR
THE CURRENT BUSINESS PLAN, BUT
WHEN WE UPDATE THE PLAN IN
THREE YEARS, UM, THERE WILL BE
SOME CHANGES TO INCORPORATE
WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO.
AND SINCE IT IS A SIX YEAR
WINDOW, I AM JUST TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT HOW THAT IS GOING
TO, HOW WE NEED TO VIABLIZE
THAT RATE.
>> SO AGAIN, I THINK WHEN WE
UPDATE THAT PLAN, GOING FROM
CURRENTLY TO 18I WILL 2018 TO
2023, WE WILL MOVE TO 2026.
AND SO YOU ARE RIGHT, SOME OF
THE UPTICK IN THE CAPITAL
PROJECTS WILL BE SEWN IN THAT
NEXT THREE YEAR WINDOW.
AND OUR CHALLENGE WILL BE THEN
TO BALANCE THAT AGAINST OTHER
PRIORITIES, AND THEN FISSURE
OUT WHERE THE WATER PIECE OF SO
IT BALANCES AGAINST THE OTHER
FUNDS SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT A
WHOLE PICTURE TO COUNCIL FOR
REVIEW, TRYING TO BALANCE
DIFFERENT PRIORITIES.
SO THIS IS A PIECE OF IT, FOR
SURE.
AND THAT IS A GOOD CATCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND ONE THING TO KEEP IN
MIND IS THAT THE ANTICIPATED
COSTS OF THE KINDS OF
INVESTMENTS WE WILL NEED TO
MAKE IS LARGE, BUT WOULD WE,
YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE INVESTED IN
OVER LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND SO
THE CURRENT FIE FAN SHALL
PLANNING HAS US LOOKING AT
ANOTHER 50 YEARS OF
INVESTMENTS.
AND SO, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
WE, AS ALEX SAID, WE NEED TO
LOOK AT WITH THE OTHER
INVESTMENTS THAT ARE BEING
MADE.
AND OVER TIME, WITH THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE AND COUNCIL, AND THE
CUSTOMER REVIEW PANEL.
>> AND ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE
OF THE ADJUSTMENTED IT IS A HAD
MADE TO THE BUSINESS PLAN WAS
SOME RATE SMOOTHING.
AND SO I AM JUST WONDERING IF
THESE DIPS AND THEN UPTICKS ARE
GOING TO IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO
HAVE THE RATE BEES SMOOTH.
>> WHAT LOOKS LIKE BUMPINESS
HERE, THOUGH, THE WATER LINE OF
BUSINESS IS, AND WE LOOKED AT
IT, IN CONTEXT OF THE
INVESTMENTS BEING PEAKED IN THE
DRAINAGE AND WASTE WATER LINE
AFTER BUSINESS, AND SO, WE LOOK
AT RATES FOR THE OVERALL, YOU
KNOW, THREE FUNDS: AND YOU ARE
RIGHT, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT
THEM ALL THREE TOGETHER TO GET
RID OF THE PROBLEMS FOR THE
CUSTOMERS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> TO SOME DEGREE, TOO, MARKET
COSTS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT MARKET
PRICING, WHERE OFTEN TIMES WE
HAVE ONE OR TWO BIDDERS ON A
PROJECT AND THEY ARE NOT
ESPECIALLY MOTIVATED TO YOU
KNOW, BE PRICE SENSITIVE, WHERE
IF MARKET CONDITIONS, CHANGE W
MIGHT HAVE LOWER PRICES WHICH
AFFECTS THE OVERALL RATE
PACKAGE.
BUT AGAIN, I CAN NOT PREDICT
THE FUTURE.
LAST PIECE HERE IS ROOSEVELT
AND VOLUNTEER.
SO A GREAT DEAL OF COMMUNITY
VEST, WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO
THAT.
WE STARTED THE PROCESS OF SO
MAYBE DECOMMISSIONING AND
SURPLUSSING MANY YEARS AGO,
BEFORE THE THINKING OF SEISMIC
PLANNING.
SO THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AS
NECESSARY, WHAT WE ARE FINDING
IS THAT WITH THESE CURRENT
UNDERSTANDINGS OF HAZARDS THAT
STORAGE IS NEEDEDMENTED.
WE ARE LOWER THAN WE LIKE TO
BE, AND WHERE ANALYSIS SAYS WE
NEED TO BE.
AND THEN THE TWO REST CZARS, WE
ARE CONVERT THEM TO EMERGENCY
STORAGE VERY COST EFFECTIVELY.
BASICALLY THEY ARE NOT NON
POTABLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
COVERS.
BEFORE THE LATEST ROUND OF
DRINKING WATER REGULATIONS,
THOSE PONDS WITHOUT COVERS WERE
PERFECTLY POTABLE RESERVOIRS.
AND SO WE FILL THEM WITH
DRINKING WATER, WE CAN STORE
DRINKING WATER IN THEM, IT IS
THE REGULATION THAT MAKES THEM
NON DRINKABLE.
IN AND QUICK, IF WE HAVE THE
PONDS RECONNECTED TO A PIECE OF
PIPE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO
CONNECT TO IN A HURRY.
WE HAVE, IN THIS CASE, 70
MILLION GALLONS OF STORAGE.
IT IS GOING TO HELP US RECOVER
MORE SMOOTHLY, PRO-RIDE FIRE
FIGHTING WATER, AND DOMESTIC
WATER, WHEN IT IS NEEDED MOST.
>> THE SECOND BULLET THERE SAYS
THAT WE HAVE LESS EMERGENCY
STORAGE THAN OTHER COMPARABLE
UTILITIES.
DOES THE DEDICATION OF
ROOSEVELT AND VOLUNTEER ADDRESS
THAT?
OR ARE WE STILL DOWN, EVEN WITH
THOSE?
>> WELL, WE ARE DOWN, EVEN WITH
THOSE.
AND THE NUMBERS DEPEND ON HOW
YOU CALCULATE AND A LOT OF
DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS,
GENERALLY SEEKING IS WE ARE AT
ABOUT 2, TWO AND A HALF DAYS OF
STORAGE, ASSUMING THAT THE
SYSTEM DOES NOT LEAK OUT
ENTIRELY.
NO LEAKS.
OTHER UTILITIES UNDER THE SAME
ASSUMPTIONS ARE IN THE FOUR TO
FIVE DAY RANGE.
SOME OF THE CALIFORNIA
UTILITIES IN THE FOUR TO FIVE
DAY RANGE HAVE ALSO ALREADY
UPGRADED THEIR TRANSMISSION
SYSTEM SO THERE IS MUCH MORE
LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY WILL
CONTINUE TO GET WATT FRESH THE
WATERSHED TOSS THEIR RETAIL
SERVICE AREA.
SO THAT IS KIND OF BELT AND
SUSPENDS COMPARED TO WHERE WE
ARE LOW ON STORAGE AND WE HAVE
NOT STARTED TO INVEST IN THE
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM.
SO IT BRING US UP TO THREE IRK
DAYS.
THERE IS NOT MUCH REAL ESTATE
TO ADD MORE STORAGE, AS MUCH AS
WE WOULD LIKE TO.
BUT WE LOOK WHERE WE CAN.
>> AND SO, IS THERE A, A PLAN,
OR IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO GET WATER FROM OUR
WATERSHEDS IN THE CASE OF AN
EVENT?
>> IT IS REALLY THE INVESTMENT
IN THE FRANK MISSION PIPELINES,
WHETHER IT IS FULL KALE
REPLACEABLE AT WEAK POINTS.
>> THAT MAKES IT POSSIBLE.
>> OR HAWKING SURE IT HAPPENS
EASILY REPARABLE.
THAT IS THE REAL CRITICAL PIECE
THAT ALLOWS US TO RELY LESS ON
OUR STORAGE IN TOWN.
>> AND HAS THERE BEEN SORT OF
AN ANALYSIS OF, UM, HOW MUCH
THOSE INVESTMENTS BRING US TO
FOUR TO FIVE DAY STORAGE
STANDARD, IF THAT IS DEED THE
STANDARD?
>> I WILL SHOW YOU A RECOVERY
CURVE, BECAUSE THE SINGLE DAY
NUMBER IS A LITTLE MISLEADING
BECAUSE THE RECOVERY IS A SLOW
PROCESS, OVER TIME.
AND THIS GRAPHIC HERE, IT IS
OVERI WILL COMPLICATED AND A
LITTLE HARD TO READ HERE, BUT
THE X AXIS SHOWS DAYS FOR
RETURN TO SERVICE.
THE Y AXIS SHOWS 0% ALL THE WAY
UP TO 100% OF THE PEOPLE WHO
LIVE IN SEATTLE HAVE WATER AT
THEIR TAPS.
THE GRAY IS SHOWING THE
ESTIMATED BAND OF RECOVERY
PERIOD, EXISTING.
THE BLUE SHOWS ESTIMATED AFTER
20 YEARS OF IMPROVEMENTS.
THE GREEN, I GUESS, SHOWS AFTER
50 YEARS.
AND THE WAY TO READ IF YOU PICK
A NUMBER, LET'S SAY, UM, 14
DAYS, WHICH IS WHAT THE NUMBER
IS WE ARE WORKING WITH TO
ESTABLISH FOR WHAT PEOPLE NEED
TO DO TO BE PREPARED.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAY, ON
AVERAGE, ABOUT 40% OF PEOPLE
WILL HAVE WATER AT THEIR TAPS
TWO WEEKS AFTER A BIG
EARTHQUAKE.
THAT WOULD BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH
PROVISION OF EMERGENCY DRINKING
WATER AT OUR RESERVOIRS,
BOTTLED WATER AS PART OF THE
EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN.
AFTER 50 YEARS, YOU GO UP TO
THE GREEN, AND INSTEAD OF 45%,
IT BECOMES 85%.
SO THAT IS THE WAY WE ARE
TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THE TYPES
OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT PEOPLE CAN
SEE THE VALUE IN WHAT WE ARE
DOING, THE ESTIMATED QUICKER
RECOVERY TO REGULAR LIFE AFTER
A REALLY BIG EARTHQUAKE.
>> THAT IS REALLY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
I HAVE IS A SUMMARY HERE, BUT I
THINK I HAVE COVERED A LOT OF
THE TOPICS.
HERE.
I WOULD WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS.
>> DO WE HAVE A SIMILAR PLAN
PLANNED FOR THE GRAINAGE AND
WASTE WATER SYSTEM?
>> WE DON'T, YET.
WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM THIS
STUDY, THAT WE INTEND TO BRING
INTO STUDYING OUR DRAINAGE AND
WASTE WATER SYSTEM.
WE HAVE, OH, THROUGH THE
KINDNESS OF THE JAPANESE
CONSOLATE HERE IN SEATTLE, BEEN
ABLE TO DEVELOP A GOODLATION
SHIP WITH SCIENTISTS AND CITY
ADMINISTRATORS IN
ADMINISTRATORS IN JAPAN TO
THERE A LOT OF GOOD KNOWLEDGE.
SO AS PART OF OUR PLAN, FOR
DRAINAGE AND WASTE WATER THAT
WE ARE ALREADY, YOU KNOW,
STARTING ON, WE WILL BE
INCLUDING SEISMIC ASSESSMENTS,
THAT WE HAVE A GOOD FOUNDATION
FOR COMING UP WITH YOU KNOW, A
PLAN FOR THE RISKS.
>> SO PLAN YESTERDAY, BUT A
PLANNED PLAN.
>> WE HAVE A PLAN TO PLAN.
>> RIGHT.
AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION I
HAD, IS THE SEATTLE TIMES
STORY, REFERENCED THE ISSUE OF,
UM, NOT HAVING SPU STAFF WHO
WOULD FIX THE PIPES IN AN EVENT
BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE?
>> WELL, ACTUALLY WE HAVE STAFF
WHO ARE VERY GOOD AT FIXING
BOTH THE LARGE PIPES AND OUR
SMALL DIAMETER PIPES WITHIN THE
CITY LIMITS.
ONE OF THE FOCUS AREAS FOR THE
TIMES WAS WHERE DO THE FOLKS
LIVE AND DO THEY HAVE ACCESS
REPAIR MATERIALS, TRUCKS, THAT
SORT OF THING, IN A PINCH.
AND WHAT WE FIND OUT IS THAT
FEWER FORKED FEWER OF THE
MAINTENANCE WORKERS LIVE WITHIN
THE CITY LIMITS.
AND THAT HAS PROS AND CONS.
THE PRO IS THAT AS THEY LIVE
FURTHER AWAY FROM THE CITY
LIMITS, THEY ARE CLOSER TO THE
LARGE DIAMETER TRANS-PIPELINES
AND MANY OF THEM CAN DO THAT.
AND ALL OF OUR FIELD MATERIALS
ARE LOCATED OUTIS SIDE OF THE
CITY LIMITS.
THE DOWNSIDE, OF COURSE, IS FOR
THE LEAKS INSIDE OF THE CITY.
IT WILL TAKE FOLKS COMING INTO
THE CITY THROUGH ROADS, MORE
TIME TO GET THOSE PIECES OF THE
SYSTEM REPAIRED.
SO THAT IS AS PART OF THE
FRAMEWORK, LOOKING AT WORK
FORCE PLANNING, HOW TO DEAL
WITH THE ISSUES.
>> SO IT IS NOT THE, THE LACK
OF KNOWLEDGE, IT IS JUST A LACK
OF ACCESSING SEATTLE.
>> FOR SURE, WE KNOW HOW TO
WORK ON THESE, BUT THEN THERE
IS ALSO THE QUESTION OF IF YOU
HAVE IN MORE LEAKS OR BREAKS
THAN CURRENTLY STAFFED UP, HOW
DO YOU GET TO THOSE?
AND THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE ARE
TRYING TO NAVIGATE.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
FURTHER.
THIS IS AN ONGOING BODY OF WORK
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO TALK
ABOUT IT AND THANK YOU.
>> THAT YOU THINK VERY MUCH FOR
TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN.
>> SOBERING STUFF.
>> I AM GLAD YOU GUYS ARE
TRACKING THIS STUFF.
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
>> ALL RIGHT W THAT, I WILL
ADJOURN TODAYS MEETING.