>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE
AND WELCOME TO OUR FIRST
FINANCE AND NEIGHBORHOODS
COMMITTEE OF THIS YEAR.
IT'S 2:00, JANUARY 9, 2019, VERY
HAPPY -- JANUARY NINTH, 2019
AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO
HAVE YOU HERE BECAUSE WE ARE
FIRST GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE
SUGARY BEVERAGE TAX AND SALES
OF VARIOUS ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN
TAXED THIS LAST YEAR AND WE
WILL ALSO HAVE SOME
APPOINTMENTS AND
REAPPOINTMENTS.
VERY GLAD GLENN LEE IS HERE AT
A REAPPOINTMENT OF MARY McCUMBER
. AFTER WE GET PAST OUR PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD AND THE
REAPPOINTMENTS THEN WE WILL
HAVE THIS BRIEFING FROM THE
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND
OUR AUDITOR'S OFFICE SO I WANT
TO SAY THANK YOU IN ADVANCE,
FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE WE REALLY
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD
WORK.
WITH THAT LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALEX, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT
SIGNED UP SO WE WILL INVITE YOU
TO THE MICROPHONES.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, ALEX.
>> IS THIS MICROPHONE BROKEN?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SUGAR
TAX, MR. PRESIDENT. BYE.
>> THANK YOU FOR COMING.
PRESIDENT HARRELL, WE WILL JUST
BRING UP GLENN LEE AND JJ McKAY
AND I THINK -- DO YOU WANT TO
JUST BRING EVERYBODY UP?
YES.
LET'S JUST DO THAT.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ
THE FIRST ONE?
>> I THINK YOU SHOULD.>> ITEM
NUMBER ONE, APPOINTMENT OF
GLENN LEE AS THE -- MEMBER OF
THE BENAROYA HALL MUSIC
CENTERBOARD .
>> ALL RIGHT.
LET'S JUST JUMP IN.
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
>> I AM TOM OWENS WITH THE
BENAROYA HALL SYMPHONY BOARD
AND I'M HERE TO RECOMMEND THAT
YOU DO APPOINT GLENN LEE TO OUR
BOARD AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE,
BECAUSE HE'S A VERY INTELLIGENT
AND CAPABLE GUY AND WE WOULD
LOVE TO HAVE HIM.
>> THAT'S GREAT. IT'S BECAUSE
OF ALL THOSE CHARMING
ATTRIBUTES AND NOT BECAUSE OF
YOUR POSITION AS FINANCE.
>> YES, MY NAME IS GLENN LEE
AND I'M THE CITY FINANCE
DIRECTOR AND I'M THRILLED TO BE
HERE TODAY.
>> SO ARE YOU BEING APPOINTED
BECAUSE OF YOUR FINANCE POSITION
OR BECAUSE OF HER BUT HE JUST
LOVES YOU AND WANTS YOU TO BE
ON THEIR BOARD?>> IT'S TRULY AN
HONOR TO BE PART OF ONE OF THE
ICONIC PLACES IN THE CITY TO BE
SUPPORTING IN ANY WAY I CAN.
SO I BELIEVE THE SELECTION
PROCESS WAS FROM BOTH THE
ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE SO I'M THRILLED
TO BE PART OF THIS.
>> WE ALL KNOW YOU AND WE'VE
WORKED WITH YOU IN MANY
DIFFERENT PHASES OF YOUR
CAREER.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> KNOW I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
HIM.
THANKS FOR SERVING.
I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THE
FORMAT OF THE SUB IDENTIFID
DIVERSITY CHART.
IT'S COMPLETELY BLANK.
WHO FEELS THESE DOCUMENTS IN
AND WHY AREN'T THEY FILLED
OUT?>> IT'S POSSIBLE THE
SYMPHONY BOARD DIDN'T KNOW
ABOUT THIS AND ALSO, THE
DISTRICTS AREN'T THERE.
>> THERE'S TYPICALLY A BOARD
PERSON THAT WE ENGAGE WITH
DIRECTLY, AND SHE IS ON
MATERNITY LEAVE, SO TOM IS
FILLING IN AT THE TABLE FOR
HER.
SO THE KIRKWOOD NADER IS OUT.
>> WHAT IS IT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW, MR. HARRELL.
>> THESE COLUMNS D, G AND RD.
>> IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
THE APPOINTMENT, I WILL VOTE IN
SUPPORT OF THE APPOINTMENT . I
DON'T TAKE IT MAKES SENSE WHEN
THE CITY PROVIDES FORMS AND WE
ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE AS MUCH
DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AS POSSIBLE --
THAT WE JUST SUBMIT FORMS.
-- BLANK FORMS.
WE DO REALIZE WE HAVE CERTAIN
CHALLENGES FOR MANY BOARDS AND
MANY COMMISSIONS, MORE
CHALLENGES THAN OTHERS IN
TRYING TO REACH SOME DIVERSITY
SO THIS IS NOT A SLAPPING
ANYONE'S FACE -- I HATE BEING
THE DIVERSITY TOP. WHY AM I THE
ONLY ONE SEEING THAT THESE
FORMS ARE BLANK? SO ANYWAY, WE
WILL SEE -- TAKE CARE OF IT ON
OUR END.
>> WE WILL ENSURE THAT WE GET
TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN
GIVE US THIS INFORMATION, AND
WE WILL BRING IT DOWN TO YOUR
OFFICE AND DISTRIBUTED TO OUR
COLLEAGUES AS SOON AS WE GET IT
BUT IN THE MEANTIME I WOULD
LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
NOMINATION FOR MR. LEE.
>> I SECOND.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF
APPOINTING GLENN TO THE
BENAROYA HALL MUSIC BOARD OF
DIRECTORS -- NO OPPOSED AND NO
ABSTENTION SO IT LOOKS LIKE
THINGS WILL GO WELL FOR YOU ON
MONDAY.
>> HOW WILL WE GO ABOUT FIXING
THE CHART?
>> I WILL FIGURE OUT TO RITA --
REACH OUT TO RITA ON MONDAY.
>> WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU
HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
YOU WANT TO READ THE NEXT ONE?
>> ITEM NUMBER TWO, APPOINTMENT
OF JJ McKAY AS MEMBER OF THE
PIKE PLACE MARKET PRESERVATION
AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
GOVERNING COUNCIL FOR A TERM TO
JUNE 3020 22.
>> VERY NICE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST START
WITH INTRODUCTIONS?
>> I AM THE FOUNDER AND
PUBLISHER OF FRESH TOAST AND
ALSO A MEMBER OF THE BANK --
>> VERY NICE
>> PULL THIS THING CLOSE TO YOU.
VERY GOOD.
>> KENNY, THIS IS GREAT THAT
YOU ARE WILLING TO DO THIS.
I KNOW YOUR -- YOU ARE VERY
BUSY.
WOULD EITHER OF YOU LIKE TO
SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF FIRST?
>> YES WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT
JJ McKAY IS A MAYORAL APPOINTEE
FOR A FOUR YEAR APPOINTMENT TO
PIKE PLACE PDA.
WE ARE VERY PROUD TO PRESENT
THIS FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
MR. McKAY BRINGS 28+ YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE IN THE NONPROFIT AND
FOR-PROFIT SECTOR. A LOT OF
INTERNATIONAL GROWTH STRATEGIC
PARTNERSHIP -- AND WE FEEL HIS
EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND WILL BE AN
ASSET TO BOTH THE PIKE PLACE
MARKET AND THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
>> I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE
WORKING WITH JJ.
HE BRINGS A LOT OF THINGS WE
NEED ON THE COUNCIL AT THE PDA.
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS OF
COURSE JJ, YOU AND I HAVE
WORKED TOGETHER FOR A DECADE
NOW AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
KNOWLEDGE OF OUR DOWNTOWN.
WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING FOR OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS AND TYING IN THE
PIKE PLACE MARKET IS FABULOUS
SO THANK YOU.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK TO US A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT, WHY DO YOU
WANT TO DO THIS?
>> I MOVED HERE A LITTLE OVER
15 YEARS AGO AND I THINK PIKE
PLACE MARKET IS AN ANCHOR FOR
THE CITY AND ESPECIALLY OUR
DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS AND AS
WE LOOK INTO MOVING INTO THIS
NEW ERA WITH AMAZON, YOU LOOK
AT THE CHANGE IN DOWNTOWN I
THINK HAVING EXPERTISE WITH
PARTNERSHIPS AND UNDERSTANDING
IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE
ALSO AT A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY
WHERE THE CHANGE IS PHYSICAL
PRESENTING FRESH OPPORTUNITIES
FOR US.
THERE'S A REDEVELOPMENT TO
PARTS OF DOWNTOWN AND WHAT A
WONDERFUL WAY TO TAP INTO
PRESERVING OUR HERITAGE WHILE
MAKING SURE WE CONTINUE TO BE A
FORWARD THINKING CITY.
>> VERY GOOD.
TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
PIKE PLACE MARKET IN THE LAST
FEW YEARS, MARY, SINCE YOU ARE
WHAT -- ONE YEAR AND NOW?
>> YES YESTERDAY WAS MY
ANNIVERSARY.
>> HOW IS PIKE PLACE MARKET
THRIVING IN THE MIDST OF ALL
THIS BUILDING WITH ALL THE
CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING?
ARE YOU CONTINUING TO SEE YOUR
NUMBERS INCREASE, SALES
INCREASE, CAN YOU GIVE US AN
UPDATE ON THAT?
>> ACTUALLY, WE HAD A REALLY
GREAT 2018 AND WE ARE LOOKING
FORWARD TO 2019, BUT WE WILL
HAVE TO KEEP ON TRACK OF WHAT
THINGS ARE LOOKING LIKE FOR NOT
ONLY JUST WHO COMES TO THE
MARKET TO BUY AND SHOP, BUT THE
PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND WORK
THERE, HOW THEY WILL GET INTO
TOWN TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB
. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND
EVERYTHING GOING ON ABOUT
WORKING FROM HOME AND ALL OF
THAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T QUITE
WORK FOR US, SO WE ARE LITERALLY
KEEPING TRACK -- WE'VE PREPARED
OUR COMMUNITY REALLY WELL AND
WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS
STARTING NEXT WEEK, BUT WE ARE
LOOKING FORWARD TO IT AND
WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE OFFICE
OF THE WATERFRONT AND THE
AQUARIUM BECAUSE THE FIRST PART
OF THAT WHOLE REVITALIZATION WE
ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BUT WE
HAVE TO KNOW WE CAN GET THROUGH
ALL THIS TO GET TO IT.
WE WILL JUST CONTINUE TO WORK
TO MAKE SURE WE CAN THRIVE AND
LIKE I SAID, WE ARE AT A REALLY
GOOD PLACE TO START THERE.
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I PERSONALLY
APPRECIATE THE MARKET.
YOU ARE FOUR BLOCKS AWAY FROM
MY APARTMENT CONDOMINIUM AND I
USE PIKE PLACE MARKET ON A
REGULAR BASIS, SO MAKING SURE
YOU DO CONTINUE TO THRIVE IS
PERSONALLY IMPORTANT AND IT
STILL REMAINS I THINK ONE OF
THE NUMBER ONE TOURIST
ATTRACTIONS IN OUR ENTIRE STATE
. SO WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT
IS TO OTHERS COMING INTO THE
CITY.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD ADD
BECAUSE WE ARE DELIGHTED TO
HAVE YOU.
AND I WILL RECOMMEND YOUR
NOMINATION UNLESS YOU WANT TO
SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
>> I JUST THINK THIS IS A HUGE
HONOR.
I'VE HAD THE BLESSING TO WORK
WITH THREE OTHER GREAT
INSTITUTIONS IN THE CITY, THE
OPERA AND MARINER'S PLACE SO
THIS TO ME IS REALLY A BLESSING
AND HONOR ON MY PART.
>> THANKS.
GOOD I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE
NOMINATION OF JJ McKAY FOR THE
PIKE PLACE PRESERVATION AND
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD.
>> SECOND.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
NO OPPOSED AND NO EXTENSIONS,
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU
FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK . WE WILL
BRING THIS FORWARD ON MONDAY
WHERE I WILL CONTINUE TO SING
YOUR PRAISES TO THE FULL
COUNCIL.
THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR
TELLING STEVE HOW MUCH I ENJOY
THE ARTWORK.
MARY, GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK
HERE AND KENNY, WE HAVE ONE
MORE.
>> ITEM NUMBER THREE,
APPOINTMENT 01236, APPOINTMENT
OF MARY McCUMBER AS MEMBER OF
THE HISTORIC SEATTLE
PRESERVATION AND DEVELOP AN
AUTHORITY GOVERNING COUNCIL FOR
A TERM TO NOVEMBER TOWARDS --
NOVEMBER 3020 22.
>> I'M SORT OF LIKE WAVING AT
YOU DOWN THERE.
TALKS WAS ABOUT MARY.
MOST OF US KNOW HER REGARDING
THIS APPOINTMENT.
>> YES THIS IS MISSES
McCUMBER'S -- MS. McCUMBER'S
SIXTH TERM WITH OVER 20 YEARS
IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR MOST
RECENTLY AS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR TO PUGET SOUND
REGIONAL COUNCIL THAT ENDED IN
2003 AND SINCE THAT TIME AND
BEFORE THAT, SHE'S BEEN ON THE
HISTORIC SEATTLE PDA AND WERE A
ONETIME CHAIR OF THE GOVERNING
COUNCIL ALSO WITH MEMBER --
FOUNDING MEMBER OF 1000 FRIENDS
OF WASHINGTON.
SHE'S NOW ON APPOINTEE OF THE
GOVERNING COUNCIL ITSELF. SHE'S
IN ONE OF THE CATEGORIES WHERE
THERE IS FOUR MAYORAL
CONSTITUENCIES VERY SIMILAR TO
THE PIKE PLACE MARKET AND SHE'S
AN APPOINTEE OF THE GOVERNING
COUNCIL.
>> OKAY, VERY GOOD.
I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
I'VE KNOWN HER AND HAVE WORKED
WITH HER FOR YEARS. DO YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS?
>> NO, IT'S YOUR APPOINTMENT.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE
KENNY?
>> I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW-UP ON
PREVIOUS ACCOUNTS OF THE
ROSTERS AND COUNCIL DISTRICTS
AND STUFF. WHEN WE WORKING WITH
THEM ESPECIALLY AS A
REAPPOINTMENT WE GET THAT
INFORMATION BUT I'VE NOTICED
THAT IN SOME OF THERE ROSTERS
-- THE ROSTERS WE MIGHT HAVE
HALF AND ONE OF THE THINGS
WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THE
START OF THE YEAR IS SETTING
OUT STATEMENTS OF ECONOMIC
INTEREST.
WE WILL NOW START REQUIRING ALL
BOARD MEMBERS TO FILL THAT OUT
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR,
AND WE WILL UPDATE THE ROSTER
SO FROM NOW ON YOU WILL START
TO SEE FULL ROSTERS AT THE TIME
OF APPOINTMENTS AND SEEING THE
PREVIOUS PEOPLE.
>> VERY GOOD AND I NOTICE ON
THIS PARTICULAR ROSTER, TOO,
THE DISTRICTS AREN'T THERE AND
IF COUNCILMEMBER FOR AS WERE
HERE SHE WOULD BE -- JUAREZ
WHERE HE OR SHE WOULD BE
JUMPING DOWN YOUR THROAT ABOUT
THAT.
>> YES WE WILL MAKE SURE IT
GETS IN.
>> I SHOWED THEM EXAMPLES ON
THE PIKE PLACE -- AS AN EXAMPLE
OF HOW IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS
COMPLETED AND EVEN THERE, WHERE
WE AREN'T DOING AS WELL AT
LEAST WE CAN RECOGNIZE IT SO
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF
DAYLIGHTING WHAT WE WANT TO DO
BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.
CATCHING THE DISTRICT
REPRESENTATION IS VERY
CHALLENGING, TOO, AND AS YOU
WILL KNOW ON MANY OF THE BOARDS
THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT AND
EVEN WHEN WE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE
FOR SOME EXPERTISE OR SOMETHING
IT IS STILL GOOD TO KNOW.
I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
>> WE ALSO USE THEM TO HELP
WITH RECRUITING.
SO IF WE NOTICE THAT THERE'S A
LACK OF DIVERSITY, WE WILL
MENTION THAT TO SAY LOOKING AT
YOUR BOARD, YOU NEED TO
DIVERSIFY WHERE THERE IS
DIVERSITY OF COLOR OR SEX AND
GENDER OR EVEN LOCATIONS WITHIN
THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
>> VERY GOOD.
I AM ALSO GOING TO PUT IN A
PLUG FOR AGE-FRIENDLY FOR
EVERYTHING SO THAT AS WE ARE
LOOKING FOR APPOINTMENTS, THAT
WE INCLUDE PEOPLE OF ALL AGES
AND ABILITIES.
>> AS A SENIOR, I APPRECIATE
THAT.
>> THERE YOU GO, MAN.>> I LIKE
THAT, AGE-FRIENDLY. [ LAUGHTER ]
AND AS I GET OLDER, I LOVE IT
EVEN MORE.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE A
REAPPOINTMENT FOR MARY McCUMBER
TO THE HISTORIC SEATTLE
PRESERVATION AND DEVELOP AN
AUTHORITY.
NO OPPOSED AND NO EXTENSIONS,
KENNY, JUST LET HER KNOW THIS
WILL BE COMING FORWARD ON
MONDAY AS WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE
APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP. OKAY.
THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS WE
HAVE IS ACTUALLY A REPORT. THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ASKED
FOR AROUND OUR SUGARY BEVERAGE
TAX, FOR A SIX MONTH AUDIT, AND
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT --
INVITE OUR PRESENTERS UP TO THE
TABLE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND
JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHO
MAY BE LOOKING INTERESTED, WHEN
WE PASSED THE LEGISLATION A
YEAR AGO FOR THIS SUGARY
BEVERAGE TAX WE HAD ASKED FOR A
SIX MONTH AUDIT ON HOW THE
SALES ARE GOING, WHERE THE
SALES MAY BE DIFFERENT, AND I
WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON IS
WITH US NOW, BUT THEY ALSO DID
A GREAT JOB OF SETTING A
BASELINE AND I THINK NADINE,
YOU MAY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT
AS WE ARE KICKING OFF, AND THEN
OUR UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
FOLKS THAT HAD DONE THE DATA
COLLECTION AND THE BOOTS ON THE
GROUND, I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH
OUR PHD THAT DID THAT WORK. SO
WE'VE GOT A LOT TO LEARN, AND
IT MAY LOOK LIKE WE ARE A
LITTLE SLOW BECAUSE OF THE
REPORT BEING FROM THIS PAST
SUMMER, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE
HAD BUDGET AND YOU WERE READY
TO PRESENT, BUT WE WEREN'T
READY TO RECEIVE SO I JUST WANT
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT WASN'T
THAT YOU WERE SLOW.
DAVID ARE YOU READY TO START?
>> THANK YOU.
I WILL JUST GIVE A LITTLE BACK
OF -- BACKGROUND BEFORE WE TURN
IT OVER TO NADINE AND JESSICA,
FOR THE VIEWING AUDIENCE IN
JUNE THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED AN
ORDINANCE REGARDING A SWEETENED
BEVERAGE TAX THAT TAXED SUGAR-
SWEETENED BEVERAGES DISTRIBUTED
IN SEATTLE AND INCLUDED ANY
ORDINANCES THE REQUIREMENT FOR
MY OFFICE, THE OFFICE OF CITY
AUDITOR TO CONTRACT WITH
ACADEMIC RESEARCHERS WHO WITH A
PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF RIGOROUS
POLICY EVALUATION SO THAT THEY
CAN CONDUCT -- CONDUCT AN
EVALUATION OF THE TAX AND THE
ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY SAID IT
SHOULD COVER THE IMPACTS OF THE
SWEETENED BEVERAGE TAX ON
BEHAVIOR, HEALTH AND ECONOMIC
OUTCOMES.
SO OUR OFFICE DECIDED TO
CONTRACT WITH PUBLIC HEALTH
SEATTLE KING COUNTY TO OVERSEE
THE EVALUATION, BECAUSE THEY'VE
HAD A TRACK RECORD AND EXPERTISE
AND EXPERIENCE WITH OVERSEEING
THESE KINDS OF COMPLEX
EVALUATIONS AND I SHOULD NOTE
THAT THE ORDINANCE SPECIFIED
THAT THERE WOULD BE A SERIES OF
REPORTS OVER MULTIPLE YEARS
PREPARED, SO JUST TO FOREWARN
YOU, YOU WILL BE GETTING MORE
OF THESE OVER THE COURSE OF THE
YEAR AND THE YEARS TO COME SO
LET ME TURN IT OVER TO DR.
NADINE CHAN FROM CITY AUTO
PUBLIC HEALTH KING COUNTY.>>
THE STUDIES AND RESEARCH SHOWS
SUGARY DRINKS ARE LINKED TO
HEALTH DISPARITIES AND
DIABETES, HEART DISEASE AND
STROKE, WEIGHT GAIN AND TOOTH
DECAY SO THE IDEA BEHIND THE
TAX IS THAT BY TAXING SUGARY
DRINKS, PEOPLE WILL BUY AND
DRINK LESS OF IT TO HELP
ADDRESS SOME OF THESE HEALTH
DISPARITIES AND THE OTHER ANGLE
IS THAT THE REVENUES WILL BE
USED TO FUND PROGRAMS TO
IMPROVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE,
HEALTHY FOOD AS WELL AS ACCESS
TO EARLY LEARNING PROGRAMS FOR
FAMILIES WITH YOUNG KIDS. SO,
AS YOU MENTIONED, WE CAME
BEFORE YOU AND PRESENTED THE
FINDINGS WE GOT AT BASELINE
BEFORE THE TAX WENT INTO PLAY
AND HERE WE ARE TODAY WITH DR.
JESSE JONES WHO WILL BE SHARING
WHAT WE FOUND SIX MONTHS AFTER
THE TAX WENT INTO EFFECT IN
TERMS OF WHAT PRICES ARE, NOW
THAT TAXES HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT.
SO WITH THAT I WILL JUST TURN
IT OVER TO JESSE.
>> THANKS.
IS MY MICROPHONE ON?
>> IF YOU MOVE IT CLOSE AND USE
YOUR PROFESSIONAL VOICE, IT
WILL BE HEARD.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
I THINK YOU HAVE THE SLIDES IN
YOUR PACKET AND WE WILL ALSO BE
FLIPPING THROUGH THEM HERE ON
THE PROJECTOR SO AS NADINE SAID
I AM HERE TO PRESENT ONE
COMPONENT ARE -- OF OUR
EVALUATION OF THE SEATTLE
SWEETENED BEVERAGE TAX AND THIS
LOOKS AT THE IMPACT OF THE TAX
ON THE PRICES SUBJECT TO TAXES
IN TERMS OF THE KEY GOAL.
I WILL GO INTO SOME DETAILS IN
TERMS OF OUR METHODOLOGY BUT
FIRST JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF
OVERVIEW, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN
THIS COMPONENT IS CONDUCTED IN
PERSON, IN-STORE SURVEYS OF THE
PRICES OF BEVERAGES, AND WE
VISITED ABOUT 200 STORES IN
SEATTLE, 200 STORES IN A
COMPARISON AREA WHICH IS KENT,
AUBURN AND FEDERAL WAY, AND WE
COLLECTED PRICES ON BEVERAGES
FROM ALL THOSE STORES AT
BASELINE AND THEN WE REVISITED
THE SAME STORES AND COLLECTED
PRICES ON THE SAME BEVERAGES
SIX MONTHS AFTER THE PRICES HAD
BEEN IN EFFECT WHICH WAS IN
JUNE OF 2018.
OKAY.
SO AS YOU'LL RECALL THE TAX IN
SEATTLE IS A TAX THAT IS LEVIED
ON DISTRIBUTORS, SO THE REASON
WE DID THE STUDY WAS THAT IT
WAS UNCLEAR WHETHER
DISTRIBUTORS WOULD PASS THROUGH
THE COST OF THE TAX TO
RETAILERS WHO WOULD THEN
POTENTIALLY PASS IT ON TO
CONSUMERS.
SO, WE WERE EXPECTING THE
PRICES TO INCREASE BUT WE JUST
DIDN'T KNOW TO WHAT DEGREE THEY
WOULD INCREASE.
I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF
OUR KEY METHODS AND RESULTS.
OKAY.
SO, TO REITERATE IN TERMS OF
METHODOLOGY AND DATA COLLECTION
WE DID DO IN PERSON SURVEYS OF
STORES IN SEATTLE AND A
COMPARISON AREA.
WE WERE CONCERNED WITH GETTING
A GEOGRAPHIC BALANCE THROUGHOUT
THE CITY SO IN ORDER TO MAKE
SURE WE HAD STORES SPREAD
THROUGHOUT THE CITY WE FIRST
DIVIDED THE CITY INTO 16
SMALLER AREAS, AND THEN WE
SAMPLED A QUOTA OF STORES FROM
SIX DIFFERENT TYPES INSIDE THE
16 DIFFERENT AREAS, TO
HOPEFULLY RESULT IN A SPREAD OF
STORES THAT WE SURVEYE ACROSS
THE CITY. IN THIS NEXT SLIDE,
YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL
DISTRIBUTION OF STORES THAT WE
DID SURVEY. THE GREEN DOTS ARE
FOOD STORES, THE BOOT -- BLUE
DOTS ARE BEVERAGE STORES, WHICH
ARE COFFEE SHOPS FOR THE MOST
PART, AND THE RED DOTS ARE
QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS, AND
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE
DISTRIBUTION OF STORES IN THE
CITY IS NOT QUITE EVEN, BUT WE
DO HAVE GOOD REPRESENTATION IN
BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH AND
CENTRAL SEATTLE.
WE ALSO HAVE A GOOD SPREAD IN
THE COMPARISON AREA, WHICH IS
IMPORTANT AS WELL.
>> SO I HAD ASKED JESSICA, IF
THERE WERE 200 STORES, IF THEY
KNEW HOW MANY STORES IN EACH
DISTRICT AND THAT WAS A
QUESTION I JUST POST YESTERDAY,
BUT WE CAN SEE THAT IT WAS
SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND
EVEN WITHOUT THE EXACT NUMBER,
WE KNOW THE DISTRIBUTION WAS
ATTEMPTED TO DO BOTH NORTH AND
SOUTH OF THE DISTRICT CANAL.
>> WE DID, AND I DID ASK FOR MY
RESEARCH SCIENTIST TO SEND THE
NUMBERS.
WE DO HAVE AT LEAST 22 STORES
IN EACH OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICT
S. DISTRICT 2 IS HEAVILY
REPRESENTED WITH 60 STORES, BUT
THE REST -- EXCUSE ME, 21 IN
DISTRICT 4 AND THIS IS SOMEWHAT
A REFLECTION OF THE FACT THAT
THERE ARE JUST MORE STORES IN
CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY.
>> CAN I UNDERSTAND THE GREEN,
BLUE AND RED SO THE GREEN ARE
WHAT AGAIN?
>> SO GREEN ARE FOOD STORES, SO
THIS COULD BE EITHER
SUPERMARKETS OR SUPERSTORES,
SMALLER GROCERY STORES AND
DRUGSTORES OR SMALL STORES,
WHICH ARE CONVENIENCE STORES
WHICH SOMETIMES HAVE GAS
STATIONS ATTACHED AS WELL AS
THE COSCO WAREHOUSE.>> THAT'S
GREEN.
AND RED OR BLUE?
>> BLUE IS COFFEE SHOPS. AND
RED IS QUICK SERVICE
RESTAURANTS, WHICH IS LIKE FAST
FOOD, OR FAST CASUAL.
>> SO READ -- READ ARE THE
McDONALD'S OF THE WORLD.
>> YES.
>> SO THE FACT THAT TAKE
DISTRICT TO AS AN EXAMPLE THAT
HAS MORE OF THESE THREE, THEY
SELL MORE, DO I LOGICALLY
CONCLUDE THAT DISTRICT 2 HAS
MORE OUTLETS TO BUY SWEETENED
BEVERAGES?
THERE ARE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO
ABIDE BY VIRTUE THAT THERE ARE
MORE -- TO BUY BY VIRTUE THAT
THERE ARE MORE STORES OR AM I
OVER READING THE FACTS?
>> I THINK ON AN AREA BASIS --
I AM NOT SURE IF WE LOOKED AT
BY A POPULATION BASIS IF THAT
WOULD BE TRUE BUT IT SEEMS LIKE
BY AREA YES THERE ARE PROBABLY
MORE STORES IN DISTRICT 2 THAN
SAY, DISTRICT 5 UP NORTH.
>> SO WHAT DID YOU SURMISE FROM
THAT?
AND AS TO TELL YOU WHAT I GET
OUT OF THAT IS I'VE ALWAYS BEEN
TOLD IN LOOKING AT THE
SWEETENED BEVERAGE TAX THAT OF
COURSE A LOT OF THE SWEETENED
BEVERAGE PROVIDERS TARGET
CERTAIN AREAS, POORER AREAS AND
PEOPLE OF COLOR SO OKAY, I'VE
HEARD THAT BUT WOULD THIS
SUGGEST THAT THAT WOULD BE
SOMEWHAT TRUE, OR IS IT JUST
THAT THIS AREA FOR WHATEVER
REASON -- THEY EAT MORE FAST
FOOD.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU SURMISED
FROM THAT DOING THIS RESEARCH
OR IS THAT BEYOND THE SCOPE OF
WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT?
>> IT IS THE -- BEYOND THE
SCOPE OF THIS PARTICULAR
REPORT, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS
THAT IT PROBABLY HAS TO DO A
LITTLE BIT WITH ZONING.
FROM WHAT I KNOW OF THE CITY,
POTENTIALLY MORE OF THE AREA IN
DISTRICT 2 IS ZONED FOR THESE
SORT OF HIS IN THIS
OPPORTUNITIES COMPARED TO, SAY,
DISTRICT 5. THAT WOULD BE A
GUESS. WE CAN'T SAY MUCH FROM
THIS PARTICULAR RESEARCH ABOUT
WHETHER EITHER BUSINESS OWNERS
OR OTHER FOLKS ARE TARGETING
PARTICULAR POPULATIONS WHEN
THEY LOCATE THEIR STORES.
>> BUT IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
QUESTION THAT I RAISED
YESTERDAY AS WELL BECAUSE WHEN
WE HAD OUR INFORMAL
CONVERSATION, YOU LOOK ALONG
DISTRICT 2, THERE ARE A LOT OF
DOTS HERE, LOOKS LIKE DOWN
RAINIER TO ME AND MARTIN LUTHER
KING WAY IN PARTICULAR, BUT I
WAS CONCERNED ABOUT -- AND WE
ALWAYS TALK ABOUT FOOD DESERTS,
ARE THERE STORES WHERE PEOPLE
CAN GET FRESH FRUITS AND
VEGETABLES OR ARE THERE JUST
MORE OF THESE GRAB AND GO
STORES WHERE IT MAY OR MAY NOT
BE THE HEALTHIEST CHOICE.
>> SO WE DO HAVE UNDERWAY AS
PART OF THIS BODY OF WORK A
FULL REPORT ON FOOD SECURITY
AND FOOD BANKS IN THE CITY AND
AS PART OF THAT WE'VE DONE SOME
MAPPING EXERCISES ATTEMPTING TO
LOCATE PLACES WHERE THERE IS
LIMITED ACCESS --
>> WE ARE FINE.
[ LAUGHTER ] NOBODY PASSED OUT
OVER THERE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> OKAY.
AND WHAT OUR MAPPING EXERCISE
HAS SHOWN -- IT'S NOT QUITE
PUBLIC YET, BUT I WOULD SAY
THAT PROBABLY IN THE NEXT
MONTH, WE WILL HAVE A BETTER
ANSWER TO WHAT ARE KIND OF THE
HOTSPOTS IN THE CITY WHERE
THERE MAY REALLY BE A LACK OF
FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES
AVAILABLE.
>> AND THEY WILL BE COMING BACK
SOMETIME IN THE NEXT -- WHAT?
SIX WEEKS TO TWO MONTHS TO TALK
ABOUT THAT AND WE'VE DECIDED
THAT YOU WILL COME BACK TO THIS
COMMITTEE IN NO SMALL PART
BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY CAN BE A
LITTLE QUIETER SOMETIMES AND
HAVE A LITTLE LONGER TIME TO
ASK QUESTIONS SO WE ARE
DELIGHTED THAT YOU WILL BE
BACK.
>> WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD
THING WAS, IF I HEARD YOU
CORRECTLY -- EVERY TIME I SEE
THE NAME JESSE JONES -- JESSE
JONES SMITH -- THE OTHER ONE IS
A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
WE SORT OF OVERSAMPLED DISTRICT
2 WITH 60 STORES I THINK AND IF
SOME OF OUR THEORIES OR MY
THEORIES AT LEAST ARE CORRECT
THAT COULD GIVE US GOOD
INFORMATION ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC
THAT IS ACTUALLY DRINKING MORE
SWEETENED BEVERAGES AS WELL SO
WE SORT OF SUPERSIZED -- EXCUSE
THE PUN -- THAT AREA IN TERMS
OF THE SAMPLING BECAUSE YOU DID
60 STORES THERE, RIGHT?>> YES.
VERY GOOD.
>> OKAY, GREAT.
SO WE RAN THROUGH OUR STORE
TYPES, JUST TO REPEAT WE HAVE
FOOD STORES AND THEN WE ALSO
HAVE QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS
AND COFFEE SHOPS INCLUDED IN
OUR SAMPLE.
IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL SAMPLE
NUMBERS OF STORES, AT BASELINE
IN SEATTLE WE SURVEYED 229
STORES.
WE HAD A REALLY EXCELLENT
RESURVEY RATE AND WE WERE ABLE
TO CAPTURE 89% OF THOSE STEAM
STORES AGAIN AT SIX MONTHS POST-
TAX IMPLEMENTATION, SO THAT
GAVE US 204 STORES.
THE NUMBERS LOOK SIMILAR FOR
THE COMPARISON AREA SO WE
STARTED WITH 223 STORES AND WE
WERE ABLE TO RESURVEY 90% OF
THOSE FOR -- OR 209 FOUR
DECEMBER.
>> IF I COULD JUST INTERRUPT
ONE MORE TIME ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS I HAD ASKED YOU
YESTERDAY WAS, WAS THAT GOOD,
TO GET THAT RESURVEY RATE AND
TO GET PEOPLE TO ANSWER AND I
THINK NADINE YOU SAID, VERY
GOOD.
TO GET AN 89% RESURVEY RATE
WITH PEOPLE WHERE YOU WILL HAVE
THE SAME STORE AND YOU ARE ABLE
TO MAKE SURE IT'S KIND OF THAT
APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.
THE FACT THAT YOU WERE OUT IN
FRONT ABLE TO DO THIS AND BRING
PEOPLE BACK BOOTS ON THE
GROUND, I AM JUST REALLY
GRATEFULBECAUSE IT GIVES US A
LOT OF SENSE OF GOOD WORK AND
SECURITY THAT THE DATA IS GOOD.
>> THANK YOU.
WE HAD A GREAT TEAM OF DATA
COLLECTORS AND THEY DESERVE ALL
THE CREDIT FOR HAVING STORES
WELCOME THEM IN A SECOND TIME
AND SOME OF THE STORES WHERE WE
DIDN'T GET, THEY HAD ACTUALLY
CLOSED OR WERE NOT OPEN
PERMANENTLY.
SO YES, KUDOS TO THE TEAM.
SO MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE
IN THESE STORES SURVEYED A
LARGE NUMBER OF BEVERAGES AND
IN OUR ANALYSES, WE CLASSIFIED
THESE BEVERAGES INTO THREE MAIN
CATEGORIES, SO THE CATEGORIES
ARE ACCORDING TO BOTH TEXT AND
SUGAR STATUS SO THE FIRST
CATEGORY IS TAXED BEVERAGES, OF
COURSE BEVERAGES THAT HAVE
SUGAR ADDED AND INCLUDE THINGS
LIKE SODA AND JUICE-FLAVORED
DRINKS, SPORTS DRINKS AND
ENERGY DRINKS. THE NEXT
CATEGORY OF BEVERAGES IS NON-
TAXED, BEVERAGES THAT DO NOT
HAVE SUGAR ADDED SO THESE
INCLUDE THINGS LIKE DIET SODA,
DIET ENERGY DRINKS, BUT ALSO
ITEMS LIKE 100% JUICE AND MILK
THAT HAVE NATURAL SUGAR BUT NO
ADDED SUGAR. THE FINAL CATEGORY
IS NON-TAXED BUT SUGAR ADDED
BEVERAGES AND THESE, WE HAVE
THREE BEVERAGES IN THIS
CATEGORY AND THIS INCLUDES
CHOCOLATE MILK, POWDERED
CONCENTRATE DRINKS LIKE POWDERED
GATORADE OR COUNTRY TIME
LEMONADE AND PREPARED SWEETENED
COFFEE DRINKS WHERE THE FIRST
INGREDIENT IS MILK, WHICH
EXEMPTS IT FROM THE TAX.
>> IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT
THE POWDERED DRINKS IN THE
THIRD CATEGORY AND LET'S JUST
SAY IN USING YOUR BRAND-NAME
POWDERED GATORADE AS AN EXAMPLE
-- THAT'S NOT TAXED. ALL YOU
HAVE TO DO IS ADD WATER WITH A
SPORTS DRINK THAT WOULD BE IN A
BOTTLE THAT YOU BUY.
>> YES.
I WASN'T PART OF THE
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT EXACTLY
WHICH BEVERAGES WOULD FALL
UNDER THE TAX, SO I AM NOT SURE
WHAT THAT HISTORY IS THERE, BUT
IT DOES SEEM LIKE AN EXCEPTION
THAT ALLOWS A PARTICULAR TYPE
OF DRINK THAT IS SUGARY TO SORT
OF SLIP THROUGH AND BE A
SUBSTITUTE.
OKAY.
GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE -- FOR
THESE BEVERAGES, WE MEASURED
THE PRICE AND WE PRESENT PRICE
IN OUR ANALYSES INCENSE
PARALYSIS -- IN SENTS PER OUNCE
SO THAT IT'S EASY TO TELL HOW
MUCH THE COST OF BEVERAGES
INCREASE SO YOU REMEMBER THE
TAX IS 1.75 CENTS PER OUNCE.
EVERYTHING ELSE WE WILL SHOW
YOU IS ALSO IN SENTS PER OUNCE.
ADDITIONALLY WE CORRECT --
COLLECTED BOTH THE PRICE AND IF
IT WAS ON SALE WE COLLECTED THE
DISCOUNT PRICE AS WELL AND IN
OUR ANALYSES WE INCLUDE THE
LOWEST PRICE THAT THAT BEVERAGE
COULD'VE BEEN PURCHASED FOR ON
THAT DAY.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE, ONE MORE
ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
OH, ACTUALLY, SORRY.
SO WE GET -- AGAIN, FOR THE
STATISTICAL ANALYSES, WE ARE
INTERESTED IN ESTIMATING THE
IMPACT OF THE TAX ON THE PRICE
OF THESE BEVERAGES THAT ARE
SUBJECT TO THE TAX AND IN TERMS
OF OUR STATISTICAL MODELS WE
USED WHAT'S CALLED A DIFFERENCE
IN DIFFERENCE MODEL AND THIS
ESTIMATES THE DEGREE TO WHICH
THE PRICE OF BEVERAGES SUBJECT
TO THE TAX CHANGED ABOVE AND
BEYOND THE PRICE CHANGE OF
THOSE SAME BEVERAGES IN OUR
COMPARISON AREA OVER THE SAME
PERIOD OF TIME.
SO IN THE NEXT SLIDE, I HAVE
PROVIDED SORT OF A HYPOTHETICAL
EXAMPLE TO HELP US CONCEPTUALLY
EXPLAIN HOW THE DIFFERENCE IN
DIFFERENCE MODELS WORK.
DRAWING YOUR ATTENTION FIRST TO
THE BOTTOM PANEL THAT'S OF
COMPARISON AREA, ONE OF THE
MIN REASONS WE USE THE
COMPARISON AREA IN A STUDY LIKE
THIS IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO
STAND IN FOR THE TRENDS IN
PRICES OVER TIME THAT WOULD'VE
HAPPENED REGARDLESS OF THE TAX.
SO IN THIS HYPOTHETICAL
EXAMPLE, WE SEE THAT IN THE
POTENTIAL COMPARISON AREA,
BEVERAGES START OFF AT $2 AT
BASELINE, AND THEN BY JUNE IN
2018, SAY SIX MONTHS AFTER THE
TAX, THE PRICE IN THE
COMPARISON AREA HAS INCREASED
TO $2.05, SO THAT $0.05 BECAUSE
THE TAX IS NOT IN EFFECT IN THE
COMPARISON AREA IS DUE TO OTHER
THINGS LIKE SEASONALITY AND WE
DON'T WANT TO ATTRIBUTE THAT
FIVE CENTS SO WE SUBTRACT THAT
$0.05 OUT OF THE IMPACT THAT WE
SEE IN SEATTLE SO IF WE MOVE UP
TO THE SEATTLE PANEL WE SEE THE
SAME BEVERAGE STARTS OFF AT $2
BUT IT INCREASES UP TO $2 35 SO
THAT'S A TOTAL CHANGE OF $.35
IN SEATTLE BUT FROM WHAT
HAPPENED IN THE COMPARISON AREA
WE KNOW $0.05 OF THAT SHOULD
NOT BE ADDED TO THE TAX SO WE
CALL THE DIFFERENCE -- THE
DIFFERENCE-IN-DIFFERENCE THE
$0.30.
THE LAST THING I WANT TO EXPLAIN
BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR ACTUAL
RESULTS IS THIS TERM PRICE PASS-
THROUGH.
IN ADDITION TO SHOWING YOU THE
CENTS PER OUNCE IN ALL THESE
BEVERAGES WHAT WE ALSO WILL
SHOW YOU IS THE PERCENT PASS-
THROUGH.
THIS IS THE PERCENT OF THE
TOTAL COST TAX THAT IS PASSED
THROUGH TO THE CONSUMER SO IF
WE SEE THAT PRICES HAVE
INCREASED BY 1.75 CENTS PER
OUNCE, THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF THE
TAX SO THAT'S 100% PASS-THROUGH
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE
SLIDES.
HERE'S THE MAIN RESULT AND
HERE, WE SEE THAT ON AVERAGE
ACROSS ALL BEVERAGES AND ALSO
DOOR TYPES -- THE AVERAGE
INCREASE WAS $.0170 WHICH IS
90% -- 97% OF THE TOTAL COST
OF THE PRICE -- TAX.
THIS DOES MASK IMPORTANT
DIFFERENCES BY STORE TYPE AND
BEVERAGE TYPE WHICH I WILL GET
TO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
SLIDES.
IN THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE
THAT FOR SODA THE AVERAGE PRICE
INCREASED BY $.0178 WHICH IS A
LITTLE OVER PASS-THROUGH AND IF
WE LOOK AT SPORTS DRINKS WE SEE
THE PASS-THROUGH IS A LITTLE
BIT LOWER AT $.0147 WHICH IS
84% AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT
BOTTLED COFFEE OR OTHER -- TO
STRINGS IT'S ABOUT 63% PASS-
THROUGH ON THOSE TYPES OF
BEVERAGES. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT
SLIDE WE'VE BROKEN THIS OUT BY
STORE TYPE WHERE WE ALSO SEE
SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE PASS-
THROUGH RATES SO FOR
SUPERMARKETS AND SUPERSTORES,
THE AVERAGE INCREASE OF PRICE
OF TAX BEVERAGES HERE IS 1.5 --
CENTS PER OUNCE AND YOU SEE
THAT IN SMALLER STORES OR
DRUGSTORES, THE PRICE INCREASED
ON AVERAGE 1.82 CENTS PER OUNCE
AND 1.80 OUNCE -- CENTS PER
OUNCE SO THIS IS A LITTLE OVER
100% PASS-THROUGH IN THESE
SMALL STORES AND THEN FINALLY
WE PUT THE NUMBER FOR QUICK
SERVICE RESTAURANTS.
WE ARE THE FIRST TEAM TO OUR
KNOWLEDGE TO MEASURE WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN THESE QUICK
SERVICE OR FAST FOOD
RESTAURANTS, AND WE SEE THAT
THE PRICE OF THESE DRINKS IS
INCREASING IN THESE VENUES AS
WELL SO A 1.43 SENT INCREASE --
>> CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION
ABOUT THAT?
I'VE SEEN IN SOME FAST FOOD
RESTAURANTS THESE GIANT
MACHINES THAT YOU GO IN AND YOU
CAN PUSH ONE FOR WATER AND ONE
IF YOU WANT YOUR DIET DR.
PEPPER AND ONE IF YOU WANT JUST
A REGULAR COLA.
WHO IS KEEPING TRACK OF THAT?
OR MAYBE HOW DO THEY KEEP TRACK
OF THAT?
>> ACTUALLY I AM NOT SURE IS
PROBABLY THE BEST ANSWER, BUT
WHAT SOME OF OUR DATA
COLLECTORS HAVE REPORTED IS
THAT THE CASHIER IS SUPPOSED TO
ASK DIET OR REGULAR AND THEN
CHARGE THE PRICE ACCORDINGLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S
ANYTHING TO STOP THE CONSUMER
FROM SAYING DIET AND PRESSING
THE BUTTON FOR REGULAR IF THEY
WERE SAVVY IN THAT WAY.
MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE
WANTED TO ALSO LOOK AT WHETHER
THE TAX RESULTED IN ANY
INCREASE OF NON-TAXED
BEVERAGES.
THE RATIONALE HERE IS THAT
DISTRIBUTORS MIGHT DECIDE TO
SPREAD THE COST OF THE TAX TO
OTHER PRODUCTS, OTHER THAN
THOSE TAXED BEVERAGES,
POTENTIALLY MAKING CONSUMERS
LESS AWARE OF A PRICE INCREASE
AND RESULTING IN LESS OF A
DECREASE OF PURCHASING.
IT ALSO COULD JUST BE A
MANIFESTATION OF LEARNING WHICH
BEVERAGES ARE TAXED AND NOT SO
WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IN THE
NON-TAXED BEVERAGES IS THAT IN
SUPERMARKETS AND SUPERSTORES
THERE WAS -- THE PRICE OF
NONTAX BEVERAGES DID NOT
INCREASE ON AVERAGE.
IN SMALLER STORES, IN GROCERY
STORES AND DRUGSTORES WE DO SEE
A SMALL INCREASE IN THE PRICE
OF NONTAX BEVERAGES SO $0.047
INCREASE WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO
27 OF THE TAX AND THEN IN
SMALL CONVENIENCE TYPE STORES
WE SEE A $0.077 INCREASE,
WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO 44% OF
THE TAX. SO WE DID A LITTLE BIT
OF A DEEPER DIVE HERE TO SEE
WHICH INCREASED IN PRICE AND
THIS ENDS UP RESULTING FROM AN
INCREASE IN PRICE OF DIET SODA,
DIET ENERGY DRINKS AND DIET
BOTTLED TEA DRINKS. SO THE
PRICE OF WATER AND MILK IS NOT
DRIVING THIS.
INSTEAD IT'S THE PRICE OF DIET
SODA, DIET ENERGY AND DRY IT --
DIET TEA DRINKS.
>> I THINK THAT'S A REALLY
IMPORTANT POINT AND I KNOW WE
TALKED A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
THIS YESTERDAY AS WELL, AND THE
IMPACT ON THIS IS THAT IN
SMALLER STORES THAT THEY ARE
RAISING PRICES ACROSS THE
BOARD, SO WHETHER IT'S AGAIN --
USING MY EXAMPLE, WHETHER IT IS
COCA-COLA OR IT'S A DIET PEPSI,
THAT, IF YOU ARE BUYING THAT
AND PAYING MORE MONEY FOR THE
DIET AS WELL, THE DISTRIBUTOR
IS NOT COLLECTING THAT.
THE STORE GETS THAT MONEY.
THE INDIVIDUALS ARE PAYING IT
AND IF PART OF WHAT WE WERE
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS TO SAY
IT'S THE SUGARY BEVERAGES THAT
THE PUBLIC HEALTH THE PERMIT IS
MOST CONCERNED ABOUT, ALTHOUGH
THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE THAT
DIET EQUALLY OR AND PERHAPS A
DIFFERENT WAY IMPACTS PEOPLE'S
HEALTH -- BUT THAT NUMBER OF
44% IN THE SMALLER STORES ON
ITEMS THAT AREN'T TAXED TO THE
DISTRIBUTOR STRIKES ME AS
SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD AT
LEAST BE AWARE OF.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT
IT AT THIS POINT BUT I THINK
BEING AWARE OF IT IS THE FIRST
STEP.
>> I THINK SO, TOO.
IT COULD BE THE STOREOWNERS
THAT ARE INCREASING THE PRICE
OF THESE BEVERAGES.
IT ALSO COULD BE THAT THE
DISTRIBUTORS MADE A DECISION TO
INCREASE THE PRICE OF BOTH, BUT
NOT DELIVER ATTACKS BACK.
SO WE ARE NOT SURE WHO'S MAKING
THAT DECISION AND THE OTHER
POSSIBILITY IS THAT IT IS
LEARNING AND THAT POTENTIALLY
WE HAVE DONE A 12 MONTH DATA
COLLECTION SO IT WILL BE
INTERESTING TO SEE IF THIS KIND
OF EVENS OUT AND IF WE SEE AN
AVERAGE INCREASE -- IF WE SEE
THIS GO DOWN AT 12 MONTHS THEN
THAT MIGHT INDICATE THAT THERE
WAS CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT SHOULD
BE TAXED, AND IT MIGHT EVEN
ITSELF OUT.
>> AND IF IT GOES UP, THEN WE
MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT
úCONCLUSION THAT WE ARE
REACHING.
>> YES, POTENTIALLY, THERE IS
AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MORE OF
A PROFIT IF WE SEE IT GO UP.
SPEC THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU
SAW THAT BECAUSE IT STRUCK ME
AS SOMETHING WE NEED TO PAY
ATTENTION TO.>> SO THIS NEXT
SLIDE JUST GIVES AN EXAMPLE OF
WHAT THIS $.0170 AVERAGE
INCREASE MEANS TO THE PRICE OF
A BEVERAGE . IF WE LOOK AT A 20
OUNCE SUGARY BEVERAGE ON AVERAGE
AT BASELINE, THESE COST $1 99.
IF WE APPLY THE $.0170 INCREASE
THAT WOULD BRING IT UP TO $2.33
. YOU CAN SEE FOR THE 12 PACK
OF SUGAR SWEETENED BEVERAGES
THE SAME $.0170 PER OUNCE
BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY MORE
OUNCES RESULTS IN A BIG
INCREASE IN THE PRICE SO IT
GOES FROM BEING $3.15 UP TO
$5.59 FOR THAT 12 PACK.
SO THIS IS A SUMMARY SLIDE,
JUST SOME OF THE KEY POINTS.
WE DO FIND THE TAX ON SUGARY
BEVERAGES IS BEING PASSED
THROUGH TO CONSUMERS VIA HIGHER
RETAIL PRICES AND THE PRICE IS
INCREASED FOR NEARLY ALL
BEVERAGES SUBJECT TO THE TAX.
THE INCREASES DIFFERED BY STORE
TYPE AND BEVERAGE TYPE, SO FOR
BEVERAGE TYPE THE LARGEST
INCREASES WERE SEEN FOR SODA
AND ENERGY DRINKS AND BY STORES
TYPE THE LARGEST INCREASES WERE
IN SMALLER GROCERY STORES,
SMALL STORES AND DRUGSTORES.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE LIMITATIONS
TO THE STUDY.
WE SURVEYED A LARGE NUMBER OF
BEVERAGES, 10,000+ OVER THE TWO
TIME PERIODS. BUT WE DID NOT OF
COURSE SURVEY ALL BEVERAGES OUT
IN THE WORLD. WE ALSO DID A
SAMPLE OF STORES IN SEATTLE AND
IN THE COMPARISON AREA RATHER
THAN DOING A CENSUS OF ALL
STORES. AND THEN FINALLY, WE
DID NOT INCLUDE SOME POPULAR
STORES SUCH AS TRADER JOE'S,
WHOLE FOODS AND PCC BECAUSE
THESE STORES TEND TO DEVOTE
VERY LITTLE SHELF SPACE TO
SUGARY BEVERAGES SO IN TERMS OF
EFFICIENCY IT FELT LIKE A LOT
OF COST DATA COLLECTOR WISE FOR
VERY LITTLE DATA YIELD.
IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, WE HAVE
COMPLETED OUR 12 MONTH DATA
COLLECTION ON THE PRICES OF
BEVERAGES, SO WE'VE GONE BACK
TO THE SAME STORES AND REPEATED
OUR SURVEY, AND WE WILL BE
REAPPEARING HERE IN A FEW
MONTHS WITH THOSE RESULTS. WE
ALSO HAVE BEEN MEASURING HOW
CONSUMPTION AMONG CHILDREN
CHANGES AND WE WILL ALSO BE
BACK HERE TO PRESENT THOSE
RESULTS WHEN THEY ARE READY AND
THEN AS I'VE MENTIONED, WE'VE
BEEN WORKING ON A FOOD SECURITY
REPORT, AND THAT IS MAKING ITS
WAY THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS
AND I THINK WE WILL BE BACK
HERE IN 4 TO 6 WEEKS TO PRESENT
THE RESULTS FOR THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ABOUT -- A
NUMBER OF OTHER PLANNED
ACTIVITIES, BUT THESE ARE THE
NEAR-TERM REPORTS THAT YOU'LL
BE GETTING FROM OUR TEAM.
>> I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT
YOU WILL BE COMING BACK WITH
MORE INFORMATION BY CENSUS
TRACT AND POVERTY LEVEL AND ALSO
TRACKING WHERE THERE ARE FOOD
SWAMPS AND THAT WAS THE TERM --
I THOUGHT WE WERE LOOKING AT
FOOD DESERTS, BUT FOOD SWAMPS
BEING THE KIND OF WORD -- FOOD
YOU MAY NOT RECOMMEND PEOPLE BE
USING ON A REGULAR BASIS AND
WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED.
>> THAT'S RIGHT AND THAT'S
INCLUDED IN THE FOOD SECURITY
REPORT THAT WE WILL BE
PRESENTING IN 4 TO 6 WEEKS. I
DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A DATE
FOR THAT YET.
>> FEBRUARY 27.
>> TERRIFIC, THANK YOU.
AND IN TERMS OF, YESTERDAY, WE
DID TALK ABOUT WHETHER THE
PRICE INCREASES ARE DIFFERENT
BY, SAY, NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL,
POVERTY OR COUNSEL DISTRICT OR
SOME OTHER GEOGRAPHY AND THAT
WASN'T IN THE SCOPE OF WORK
THAT WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED, AND
IT WASN'T SOMETHING I COULD DO
BETWEEN YESTERDAY AND TODAY,
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS
OF INTEREST TO US AND
PARTICULARLY, WE COULD LOOK AT
BORDER VERSUS INNER AREAS SINCE
PEOPLE CAN SHOP ACROSS THE
BORDER, SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL
ANALYSES THAT WE ARE OPEN TO
DOING.
WE ALSO DO HAVE A LOT OF
DEADLINES TO MEET THE REQUIRED
SCOPE OF WORK IN THE ORDINANCE.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS?
>> FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS VERY
RICH AND THANK YOU FOR DOING
SUCH A GREAT JOB.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE SCOPE OF
WORK THAT I JUST NEED MY MEMORY
REFRESHED ON A LITTLE BIT AND
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I AM
INTERESTED IN AT LEAST I THINK
IT'S IN THERE BUT I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE AND THAT IS, THE
FIRST ONE BEING, ARE WE JUST
SEEING BEHAVIORAL CHANGES IN
CONSUMERS PARTICULARLY IN
PORER AREAS?
ARE THEY SAYING OH, THEY ARE
REACHING FOR ONE SIXPACK OF
COKE AND SAY NO, LET ME GO GET
SOME WATER INSTEAD?
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS,
IS IT WORKING?
IS IT DISCOURAGING BAD
CONSUMPTION HABITS?
AND SECONDLY, IF IT'S NOT
WORKING AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING I
WANT IT SO BADLY THAT I WILL
PAY THAT EXTRA $2 BECAUSE I
LIKE THAT SIXPACK OF SODA.
AND WHAT ARE WE LEARNING FROM
THAT?
IS THAT SORT OF IN THE SCOPE OF
WORK THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET
TO?
>> I THINK DR. CHAN WOULD BEAST
-- BE BEST SUITED TO ANSWER
THAT.
>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES WE
ARE ANSWERING THE QUESTION OF
WHETHER IT'S MAKING A
DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE DRINKING
LESS OR MORE OF THE TEXT
BEVERAGES AND IN ADDITION TO
THAT, WHAT ABOUT OTHER
BEVERAGES BECAUSE WHAT IF THEY
ARE DRINKING LESS SUGARY
BEVERAGES, BUT THEY ARE
DRINKING MORE WATER?
THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING AND
THEN WE ARE DOING THAT BY
FOLLOWING A COHORT OF FAMILIES
BOTH IN THE SEATTLE AREA AS
WELL AS OUTSIDE OF THE SEATTLE
AREA. THE COHORT OF FAMILIES
WE'VE RECRUITED WE'VE COLLECTED
BASELINE DATA FROM THEM.
WE'VE COLLECTED SIX MONTH DATA
FROM THEM AND WE ARE IN THE
PROCESS OF PREPARING THAT DRAFT
REPORT.
>> YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD THAT
THE COMPLAINT FROM BUSINESSES,
THE OBVIOUS ONE THAT YOU ARE
TAXING THIS PRODUCT AND IT'S
GOING TO DISCOURAGE SALES, BUT
WHAT I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO
EXPLAIN TO THEM IS, WE ARE
DISCOURAGING SALES IN ONE
COMMODITY BUT NOT THE OTHER, SO
HOPEFULLY THERE'S AN INCREASE
IN THE OTHER PRODUCTS.
IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN YOU DON'T
REALLY CARE, YOU WILL START
BUYING LESS INVENTORY IN ONE
AREA AND MORE IN ANOTHER. IT'S
STILL EARLY AND BEHAVIORS DON'T
CHANGE WHEN WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT DECADES OF LEARNED
BEHAVIOR. I NEVER MET A COKE I
DIDN'T DRINK WHEN I WAS YOUNG.
AND I'M ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT THE
AGE FACTOR BECAUSE IN ALL
SERIOUSNESS, I AM NOT SURE WHEN
CONSUMPTION DECISIONS START TO
REALLY COME HOME FOR PEOPLE WHO
MAKE DECISIONS AND I THINK AS
THEY GET OLDER AND THEY START
LOOKING AT DIABETES AND BLOOD
PRESSURE AND OTHER ISSUES, YOU
NEVER HEAR A KID TALK ABOUT
THEIR CHOLESTEROL LEVEL, RIGHT?
SO SOMEHOW, I WANT TO LOOK AT
WHO SHOPS IN A LOT OF THESE
DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS, AND ARE
WE MESSAGING THE RIGHT THING TO
THAT PARTICULAR DEMOGRAPHIC
BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME OF THESE
FOLKS IN THEIR 60s AND OTHERS
IN THE 20s -- KIDS JUST DON'T
CARE ABOUT SOME STUFF.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET THEM TO
CARE ABOUT IT NOW, OF COURSE,
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE
ARE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE
DEMOGRAPHICS OF WHO WE ARE
TRYING TO CHANGE AS WELL.
>> I WILL JUMP IN HERE AGAIN.
WE HAVE A COLLEAGUE, PROFESSOR
LISA POWELL FROM THE UNIVERSITY
OF CHICAGO WHO DID A SURVEY OF
ADULTS IN CHICAGO AND OUTSIDE
OF CHICAGO TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH
PEOPLE ARE REPORTING IN TERMS
OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE DRINKING AND
SHE DID LOOK AT HOW THIS IS
DIFFERENT BY RACE, ETHNICITY,
GENDER AND INCOME, AND BY AGE.
HER REPORT IS PUBLISHED ON HER
WEBSITE AND I CAN CERTAINLY
SEND THE LINK AND YOU ARE
RIGHT, YOU DO SEE SOME
DIFFERENCES BY RACE -- AGENT
ALSO GENDER.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT
REPORT.
I KNOW OUR GROUP IS WORKING
HARD ON HEALTH CHOICES FOR TEENS
AND PRETEENS SO THAT WHEN YOU
GO TO A COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT
THEY WILL HAVE ORANGE JUICE AND
WATER AS OPPOSED TO POWER
DRINKS AND COKE.
WE KNOW WE ARE TRYING.
I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE RESULTS
ARE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD
LIKE TO ADD, MR. AUDITOR?
>> NO, JUST THAT IT'S BEEN A
DELIGHT TO WORK WITH PUBLIC
HEALTH SEATTLE KING COUNTY AND
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON.
THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT
PARTNERS AND HAVE MADE
ADJUSTMENTS TO -- IN RESPONSE
TO INPUT FROM CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS AND THE RESPONSE TO
STAFF.
WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE
BUDGET THEY'VE MADE EVERY
EFFORT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE.
>> I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THE COUNSEL CENTER STAFF.
THANKS FOR COMING AND FOR
PUTTING THIS TOGETHER SO QUICKLY
AND WHAT I AM WAVING AROUND
HERE, WE WILL PUT ON OUR
WEBSITE, BUT DURING OUR LAST
BUDGET SESSION, WE'VE
IDENTIFIED OVER $9 MILLION FOR
2019 AND OVER $8.8 MILLION FOR
2020 AND THESE MONIES ARE
IDENTIFIED FOR INVESTMENTS IN
FOOD ACCESS, NUTRITION AND FOOD
EDUCATION PROGRAMS SO PEOPLE
ASK US, WELL, YOU ARE JUST
COLLECTING MONEY FROM US, WHAT
ARE YOU DOING WITH IT?
THIS IS A LIST OF WHERE IT'S
GOING FOR FOOD BANKS FOR FARM
TO TABLE OR COMMUNITY-BASED
MEALPROVIDERS, AND SO ON.
I WILL POST THIS JUST BECAUSE
WE PUT ALL LOT OF TIME DURING
DURING OUR LAST BUDGET CYCLE --
EVERYBODY WANTS IT TO GO TO ALL
OF THE GOOD PLACES, SO THERE
WAS A LITTLE BIT OF ARM
WRESTLING ABOUT WHAT
PERCENTAGES WOULD GO WHERE, BUT
WE'VE GOT THAT NOW MORE CLEAR
AND JEFF, THANK YOU FOR THIS
AND I WILL BE POSTING THIS ON
OUR WEBSITE FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT
LIKE TO SEE IT AND THEN WE WILL
WELCOME YOU BACK EVERY 23rd --
27th AT THIS COMMITTEE TO TALK
ABOUT AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY AND TALK
ABOUT FOOD DESERTS AND WHAT
YOU'VE LEARNED.
>> ONE LAST QUESTION THAT JUST
OCCURRED TO ME, I WAS TOLD AND
I HATE TO MENTION SPECIFIC
STORES BUT THIS IS THE EXAMPLE
I HAD THAT COSTCO AS AN
EXAMPLE, THE COSTCO IN SEATTLE,
THERE WERE ACTUALLY SIGNS TO
DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM BUYING
THE SWEETENED BEVERAGES THERE
AND SAYING -- IN OUR KENT
STORE, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S
CHEAPER.
IN YOUR FIELD RESEARCH, DID YOU
SEE ANY DISTRIBUTORS
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SHOP
SOMEWHERE ELSE, NUMBER ONE, AND
A TWO, THAT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT
WAY TO FIND OUT WHETHER SOME
CAN SOME TRIM HABITS --
CONSUMPTION HABITS ARE
DIFFERENT IF YOU HAVE ONE HERE
AND ONE OUTSIDE THE CITY SO DID
YOU GET INTO ANY OF THAT AT ALL
WITH YOUR RESEARCHERS TO SEE IF
THERE WERE ATTEMPTS TO
DISCOURAGE?
>> A LITTLE BIT.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT WE SORT OF
KNOW.
WE DID SEE THE SIGN AT COSTCO
AND WE TOOK A PICTURE OF IT.
I AM NOT SURE HOW LONG IT
STAYED UP, BUT IT DID SAY -- I
THINK THERE WERE SEVERAL SIGNS.
WRITING THERE WAS ONE SIGN
OUTSIDE THAT SAID THAT THE
RENTON STORE OR SOME OTHER STORE
DID NOT HAVE THE SUGARY
BEVERAGE TAX AND WHEN THE TAX
FIRST ROLLED OUT THEY HAD SIGNS
ON INDIVIDUAL SUGARY BEVERAGES,
SAYING THAT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
THAT PRICE WAS DUE TO THE TAX
AND THAT TAX WAS NOT PRESENT IN
THEIR OTHER STORES, SO IT DID
SEEM THAT COSTCO WAS ACTUALLY
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GO TO THE
STORES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. WE
TOOK THOSE PICTURES PRETTY
EARLY ON IN THE TAX
IMPLEMENTATION.
I AM NOT SURE HOW LONG THEY
CONTINUED TO HANG THOSE SIGNS.
WE DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE
SMALL STORE OWNERS, INSTEAD OF
GETTING THEIR BEVERAGES FROM A
DISTRIBUTOR, THEY ACTUALLY SHOP
AT COSTCO AND SOME OF THEM SO
FAR HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY HAVE
GONE TO THE COSTCO OUTSIDE OF
THE CITY, WHILE SOME CONTINUE
TO BUY THE SUGARY BEVERAGES
FROM THE COSTCO INSIDE THE CITY
SO THERE'S KIND OF LOTS OF
INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSPERSON
DECISIONS HAPPENING HERE.
YOUR SECOND POINT ABOUT THE
CROSS-BORDER SHOPPING. OUR
COLLEAGUE IN CHICAGO LISA
POWELL AGAIN IS GOING TO HAVE A
REALLY ELEGANT STUDY TO MEASURE
THAT VERY WELL, SO SHE IS GOING
TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT MILLIONS
OF TRANSACTIONS OF SUPERMARKET
SALES, AND JUST KIND OF
DRUGSTORE SALES IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE, AND THEN I BELIEVE
LIKE A TWO MILE BUFFER AROUND
WHICH WOULD PICK UP THAT CROSS-
BORDER SHOPPING AND THEN THE
COMPARISON AREA WHICH I THINK
IS PORTLAND, SO WE WILL HAVE
SOME GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENS, HOW MUCH OF ANY
CHANGE WE MIGHT SEE IN SEATTLE
IS KIND OF MADE DIFFERENT
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CROSS-BORDER
SHOPPING.
SO THAT IS TO COME.
>> SO TELL US A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT YOUR COLLEAGUE IN CHICAGO.
IS SHE WORKING AT A UNIVERSITY
THERE AND HAS A CONTRACT TO DO
THIS WORK IN SEATTLE OR WAS SHE
WITH YOU AND THEN MOVED?
>> LISA POWELL IS A HEALTH
ECONOMIST AND SHE'S ALSO
INVOLVED IN STUDIES OF THE
IMPACT OF SUGARY BEVERAGE TAXES
ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, AND
AS PART OF OUR EARLY PHASE OF
PULLING TOGETHER THE ACADEMIC
RESEARCH GROUP, LISA POWELL HAS
BEEN ONE OF OUR ADVISORS.
SO SHE IS SOMEONE WE CONSULT
WITH AND SHE ALSO COCHAIRS THE
NATIONAL ADVISORY GROUP OF
RESEARCHERS WHO ARE LOOKING AT,
WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF SUGARY
BEVERAGE TAXES?
BOTH NATIONALLY AND I THINK
INTERNATIONALLY, AND WE ARE
TURNING TO THEM TO HELP WITH
CONSULTING AND ADVISING ON
THESE PROJECTS. WHAT'S REALLY
BEEN A NICE COLLABORATION IS
THAT, BECAUSE LISA IS DOING
SIMILAR STUDIES WHERE SHE'S
LOOKING AT THE CROSS-BORDER
SHOPPING QUESTION IN OTHER
PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, WE WERE
ABLE TO WORK WITH HER TO HELP
SUPPORT FUNDING FOR HER TO BE
ABLE TO ADD THIS PIECE FOR OUR
LOCAL AREA.
>> THANKS FOR EXPLAINING THAT.
EXCELLENT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
TODAY?
WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
COMING.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PROFESSIONAL
RESEARCH AND THE GOOD WORK
YOU'VE DONE AND SIMPLIFYING
THIS SO THAT IT'S VERY
UNDERSTANDABLE.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING IT CLEARER
FOR THOSE OF US THAT MAY NOT BE
SUPER ECONOMISTS LIKE HE IS.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND
ALLISON, THANK YOU FOR
ORGANIZING THIS DAY.
DAVID JONES, THANK YOU FOR
PARTICIPATING AS WELL. SO THE
MEETING IS ADJOURNED.