>>> GOOD MORNING.
TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, APRIL 24,
2019, AND IT IS 9:30 2 AM.
THIS IS A REGULAR SCHEDULED
MEETING OF THE GENDER EQUITY,
SAFE COMMUNITIES, NEW
AMERICANS, AND EDUCATION
COMMITTEE COMMITTEE . I AM
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ, CHAIR
OF THIS COMMITTEE.
RUNNING ME ON MY COLLEAGUES.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA AND OUR
NEWEST ADDITION TO THE SEATTLE
CITY COUNCIL, COUNCILMEMBER
PACHECO . THIS IS YOUR FIRST
COMMITTEE HEARING, RIGHT?
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU JOIN
US.
LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR
CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FULL CITY
COUNCIL, AND THE COMMITTEE, AS
WELL.
YOU HAVE QUICKLY ASCENDED TO
THE VICE CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE.
NO, YOU ARE THE VICE CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
>> I PASS.
YOU BETTER WATCH OUT.
>> FIRST, WE WILL CONSIDER A
VOTE ON TWO APPOINTMENTS AND
ONE REAPPOINTMENT TO THE
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION
FOLLOWING CONSIDERATION OF
THOSE APPOINTMENTS, WE WILL
HEAR A REPORT FROM THE OFFICE
OF POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AS
THEY PRESENT THEIR 2018 ANNUAL
REPORT.
THAT IS SIMPLY FOR A BRIEFING
AND DISCUSSION.
NOTHING TO VOTE ON.
LASTLY, WE WILL HEAR FROM THE
SEATTLE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT,
PUBLIC ASSOCIATION ABOUT THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSISTED
DIVERSION PROGRAM, AND IN
PARTICULAR, THE RESPONSE TO
SLIDE 3828 1, WHICH IS RELATED
TO A TECHNOLOGY LEAD.
AGAIN, THAT ONE IS SIMPLY FOR
BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
NO ACTION ON THAT PARTICULAR
ITEM, EITHER.
BEFORE WE CONTINUE, WE WILL
BEGIN OUR MEETING WITH PUBLIC
COMMENT, AS USUAL.
WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THOSE
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO JOIN
US FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AS A REMINDER, PUBLIC COMMENT
AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE THE
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE UP TO
TWO MINUTES OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY
ON AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
THIS IS NOT, UNFORTUNATELY, A
VENUE WHERE WE ENGAGE IN
CONVERSATION AS MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE WITH MEMBERS GIVING
PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
IT IS SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO LISTEN TO THOSE WHO SHOW
UP AND OFFER TESTIMONY.
EACH INDIVIDUAL WILL HAVE UP TO
TWO MINUTES TO PROVIDE US WITH
THEIR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
AT THE END OF THE TWO MINUTES,
THE TIMER WILL TURN FROM GREEN
TO RED, AND THE MICROPHONE WILL
BE TURNED OFF.
I WILL ASK YOU TO KINDLY WRAP
UP YOUR COMMENTS.
THE ONE AND ONLY PERSON WE HAVE
SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS
DAVID HAYNES.
MISTER HAYNES?
>> 2012 POLICE REFORM WAS
SABOTAGED BY ATTORNEY GENERAL
AND NO MAYOR DURKAN WHEN SHE
ADDED AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL
SENTENCE, EXEMPTING DRUG
PUSHERS FROM JAIL.
THIS RESULTED IN THE COPS
REFUSING TO GO AFTER AND JAIL
LOWLIFE CRIMINALS, WHICH
RESULTED IN A PROLIFERATION OF
JUNKIE THIEVES.
SAFE COMMUNITIES DOESN'T MEAN
EXEMPTING LOW-LEVEL DRUG
PUSHERS.
SAFE COMMUNITIES DOESN'T MEAN
RACIST COWARDS IN SEATTLE'S
POLICE DEPARTMENT, REFUSING TO
GO AFTER NEFARIOUS JUNKIE
THIEVES AND THEIR CRACK, METH,
HEROIN PUSHERS AND ENABLERS,
WHILE CONDUCTING A WAR ON THE
POOR.
OF COMMUNITIES DOESN'T MEAN
GIVING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO A
NONPROFIT ONLY HELPS DRUG
PUSHERS, INCLUDING ILLEGAL
ALIENS, LATINOS AND AFRICANS
CONDUCTING AN UNCIVIL WAR ON
COMMUNITY.
THEY GET TO STAY OUT OF JAIL.
THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO
WISING UP TO THE FACT SEATTLE
IS DYING OF SOCIETAL IMPLOSION
DUE TO TREASONOUS POLICIES AND
UNCONSTITUTIONAL AGENDAS TO
PRIORITIZE HOUSING AND SERVICE
FOR MORE CREEPY, PREDATORY, LOW-
LEVEL DRUG PUSHERS AND THEIR
JUNKIE THIEVES WHO ARE NOT OR
WHO ARE NONSTOP GETTING AWAY
WITH RAPING HOMELESS WHITE
WOMEN DUE TO RACIAL
INCOMPETENCE IN THE JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
I WANT TO THANK LISA -- FOR
HELPING US OUT, BUT WE SHOULD
FOCUS ON REFORMING THE PRISON'S
CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT
STARTING AT THE WRITTEN JUSTICE
CENTER ABOVE GROUND JON JONES.
SEATTLE COUNCIL MUST REALIZE
THERE IS NO POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN THE POLICE
COMMISSION, WHO IS SUPPOSED TO
BE INDEPENDENT AND MAINTAIN THE
INTEGRITY OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS THE SAME PERSON
GETTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO
HELP YOU AS INNOCENT PEOPLE
SUFFER.
>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN
CHAMBERS WHO WANTED TO PROVIDE
US WITH PUBLIC TESTIMONY BUT
DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SIGN UP?
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE OUT
THE PERIOD OF DOUBLE COMMENT
AND BEGIN THE ITEMS OF BUSINESS
ON OUR AGENDA.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO PRESENT ON
AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE,
WHICH ARE APPOINTMENTS ANDREA
PLEMONS TO THE SEATTLE POLICE
COMMISSION, I WOULD INVITE YOU
TO JOIN US AT THE TABLE AND OUR
CLERK, ROXANA, WILL READ AGENDA
ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE INTO
THE RECORD.
APPOINTMENT OF ASHA MOHAMED AS
MEMBER, COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION, FOR A TERM DECEMBER
31, 2019.
APPOINTMENT OF ERIN B. GOODMAN
AS MEMBER, COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION, FOR A TERM TO
DECEMBER 31, 2020.
REAPPOINTMENT OF HARRIETT
WALDEN AS MEMBER, COMMUNITY
POLICE COMMISSION, FOR A TERM
TO DECEMBER 31, 2021.
FOR BRIEF AND DISCUSSION, AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
WITH US AT THE TABLE TODAY.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO A QUICK
ROUND OF INTRODUCTIONS, JUST
YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME, AND
ANY AFFILIATION SHOULD YOU WISH
TO SHARE IT.
WE WILL HANDED OVER TO DEPUTY
MAYOR TO WALK US THROUGH
PRESENTATION.
>> ERIN GOODMAN, EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE SOTO BUSINESS
IMPROVEMENT AREA.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ASHA MOHAMED.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF SOMALI
YOUTH CLUB.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM WITH THE MAYORS OFF
OFFICE.
WELCOME, COUNCILMEMBER PACHECO,
TO PRESENT THE MAYOR'S NOMINEES
TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION.
I JUST DO ALL THREE AT THE SAME
TIME?
>> I THINK THAT'S FINE.
>> OUR FIRST NOMINEE IS ERIN
GOODMAN.
ERIN GOODMAN HAS SERVED AS THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SOTO
BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA
REPRESENTING BUSINESS INTERESTS
IN THE INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITY
SINCE ITS FOUNDING IN 2014.
HER ROLE INCLUDES CULTIVATING
COLLABORATIONS, COLLABORATIVE
PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN
BUSINESSES, PROPERTY OWNERS,
ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE CITY OF
SEATTLE, AND COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS.
SHE CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE
CHAIR OF THE SOUTH RECENT
ADVISORY COUNCIL AND IS FOCUSED
ON BUILDING BRIDGES BETWEEN THE
SOUTH RECENT AND THE COMMUNITY
THEY SERVE, AND HELPING TO
CREATE A COHESIVE COMMUNITY
VOICE.
I AM EXCITED TO HAVE HER AGREED
TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY
POLICE COMMISSION.
I THINK WE WILL BRING A
VALUABLE PERSPECTIVE FROM THE
COMMUNITY ON THAT.
THE SECOND NOMINATION IS ASHA
MOHAMED.
ASHA MOHAMED IS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE SOMALI YOUTH
AND FAMILY CLUB.
SHE HAS BEEN A SEATTLEITE FOR
OVER 20 YEARS AND IS A REGULAR
FIXTURE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SHE HAS BUILT MULTIETHNIC,
MULTICULTURAL AND MULTILINGUAL
SPACES.
SHE IS A FIERCE ADVOCATE FOR
REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE AND AN
ALLY FOR LGBTQ RIGHTS.
WHAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW IS HER
MOM IS A POLICE OFFICER AND
ALSO, BEING THE MOTHER OF WHAT
FUNDS AND LOW WIFE AND SISTER
TO BLACK MEN, HAS THE UNIQUE
PERSPECTIVE OF BEING IN THAT
THERE ARE CHALLENGES WORKING
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WILL
BRING THAT INCREDIBLE VOICE TO
THE SEATTLE POLICE COMMISSION.
OUR FINAL REAPPOINTMENT IS
REVEREND HARRIETT WALDEN.
SHE HAS BEEN ON THE COMMUNITY
POLICE COMMISSION SINCE ITS
FOUNDING AND WE ARE PLEASED TO
RENOMINATE HER.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
JUST FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC AND
FOR THE BENEFIT OF
COUNCILMEMBER PACHECO, USUALLY
WITH REAPPOINTMENTS, WE DON'T
REQUIRE THE NOMINEES WHO ARE
BEING REAPPOINTED TO BE PRESENT
AT THE COMMITTEE TABLE, SO
TAT'S WHY REVEREND WELDON
ISN'T HERE, BUT OUR TWO NEW
APPOINTEES ARE WITH US.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO ASK ABOUT THEIR INTERESTS,
AND INTENT IN TERMS OF WHAT
THEY WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH
AS A MEMBER OF THE POLICE
COMMISSION, SO I WILL GO AHEAD
AND START THE QUESTIONS.
IF THERE ARE FOLLOW-UPS, I WILL
HAND IT TO MY COLLEAGUES.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO BE HERE WITH US
THIS MORNING, AND OF COURSE FOR
YOUR WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE
ON THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION, WHICH IS A REALLY
VITAL, IMPORTANT PART OF OUR
OVERALL EFFORTS TO ENSURE THE
VOICES OF A DIVERSE SET OF
COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND
REPRESENTATIVES ARE PRESENT
WITHIN THE ACCOUNTABILITY
SYSTEM AS A WHOLE, WHICH IS
INCREASINGLY BECOMING MORE
CIVILIZED.
>> Reporter: LIKE TO PROVIDE
EACH OF YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO
INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR OWN
WORDS AND PERHAPS, SHARE WITH
US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY YOU
ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON
THE COMMISSION, AND IF YOU HAVE
A SENSE OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE
TO WORK ON, I WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT.
>> I AM A SOUTH SEATTLE NATIVE.
>> Reporter: RUN UP IN SEATTLE
AND NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
REPRESENT THE SOUTH SEATTLE
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE PROCESS
I'VE SEEN IS A FRACTURING
BETWEEN RELATIONSHIPS, AND
PUBLIC SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE
CONCERN.
WE DISCUSS THIS ON NUMEROUS
OCCASIONS.
I TRULY BELIEVE IN THE MISSION
OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION THAT COMMUNITY AND
SPD ALIGNED TOWARD COMMON GOALS,
AND THAT WE CAN HAVE GOOD,
STRONG, CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING
BUT IS ALSO ENSURING PUBLIC
SAFETY.
WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY CAME TO BE
PART OF THIS COMMISSION AND TO
PROVIDE A BUSINESS VOICE, AND
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE
BUSINESSES THAT EMPLOYED THE
SOUTH PRECINCT AND SHARE THAT
IN THIS CONVERSATION, IT SEEMED
LIKE AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO.
COMING INTO THIS, THIS
COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE VERY
DIFFERENT WHEN WE SIT DOWN,
WHEN IT SITS DOWN IN MAY, SO
UNDERSTANDING THE ROLES OF WHAT
IS WORKED ON, BUT I THINK
BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIP,
BUILDING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A
GOOD, STRONG POLICE FORCE
ALIGNED WITH COMMUNITY VALUES
IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE
WORKING ON.
>> GREAT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS GOODMAN?
WHY DON'T WE GO THROUGH THE
FULL PRESENTATION AND THEN DO
SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS?
>> I WANTED TO BE PART OF THE
POLICE COMMISSION BECAUSE I WAS
REALLY MAD.
A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I RECEIVED
A RANDOM EMAIL FROM THE CPC,
THE COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION.
IT WAS REGARDING THE POLICE
CONTRACT NEGOTIATION.
I CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE A
PRETTY INTELLIGENT PERSON.
AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE
SYSTEM AND HOW THEY ARE, BUT IN
THAT MEETING, IT FELT LIKE
THERE WAS NO INTERPRETATION.
THERE WERE ELDERS AND THINGS
WERE JUST HAPPENING, YOU KNOW.
JUST FAST.
THERE WAS NO INTEGRATION.
WE WERE NOT PART OF THE PROCESS.
WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN PEOPLE
WHOSE LANGUAGE IS NOT FIRST
ENGLISH.
I DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
IT.
THAT'S WHY I AM HERE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH
IS ACTUALLY TWO BE PART OF THE
CONVERSATION AT A COMMUNITY
LEVEL.
MOST OF THE TIME, WHENEVER
THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH
SPD OR ANYTHING, IS WHEN A
TRAGEDY HAPPENS, OR WHEN
CONFLICT IS HAPPENING, OR WE
HAVE THESE PHOTO OPS, WHERE
ELECTED OFFICIALS, THEY COME
AND IT'S LIKE THE USUAL FOLKS.
BUT FOR ME, I THINK IT'S MORE
ABOUT THE INTEGRITY.
I ALSO HEAR THAT FOR MOST
IMMIGRANTS, THEIR EXPERIENCE HAS
BEEN THAT THE POLICE WERE
CORRUPT.
ACTUALLY, MY MOTHER WAS A
POLICE OFFICER.
HER BROTHER WAS MURDERED BY A
POLICE OFFICER AND SHE STILL
CHOSE TO BECOME A POLICE
OFFICER BECAUSE SHE TRULY
BELIEVED THAT PEOPLE THAT DON'T
HAVE THE MEANS NEEDED
PROTECTION AND NEEDED TO BE
SERVED.
I THINK THAT TO MY CORE.
ANYONE THAT IS WEARING A
UNIFORM IS NOT GOING TO SEE ME
JUST AS A ONE-OFF, BUT I REALLY
BIG PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND
MAKING SURE THAT I PROVIDE THAT
TO TAKE THE POLICE TO THE
COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY TO
THE POLICE.
THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO
ACHIEVE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK
WITH BOTH OF YOU IN THE PAST.
I THINK THE LAST TIME WE REALLY
HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WAS AS
MEMBERS OF THE SEARCH COMMITTEE
FOR THE NEW CHIEF OF POLICE.
WE ENDED UP WITH NOW CHIEF
CARMEN BEST.
WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE
HOW YOU WORK IN A LARGER GROUP
SETTING AND APPRECIATE THE
BALANCE, THAT I THING YOU BRING
INTO CONVERSATIONS AROUND SORT
OF RECOGNIZING HOW TO CENTER
THE PRIORITIES AROUND EQUITY,
AND THE IMPORTANCE OF
CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING, AND
MAKING SURE WHEN OFFICERS DO
VIOLATE POLICY, THAT WE HAVE
THE BEST SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO
MAKE SURE THOSE OFFICERS ARE
HELD ACCOUNTABLE, BUT I THINK
BOTH OF YOU ALSO HAVE EXPRESSED
A PERSPECTIVE AROUND MAKING
SURE WE ARE ALSO SUPPORTING LAW
ENFORCEMENT THAT IS DOING A
GOOD JOB AND MAKING SURE WE ARE
SHARING THOSE STORIES WITHIN
COMMUNITY.
TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A GOOD
FLUIDITY IN TERMS OF
INFORMATION SHARING AND THAT WE
CONTINUE TO WORK ON BUILDING
THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
I'VE HAD A LOT OF WORK ON THIS
TO FIND NOMINEES, AND WE WILL
READ THEIR MATERIALS, BUT I
WANTED TO OPEN UP THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR MY COLLEAGUES
TO ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> WELCOME.
AM GOING TO ASK YOU THE SAME
QUESTION WE ASKED THE TABLE
LAST TIME WE WERE DOING THE
NOMINATION PROCESS.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT
WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY MEANS TO
YOU AND WHO YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE
TO.
>> ACCOUNTABILITY IS WHEN YOUR
WORDS MATCH YOUR ACTIONS IN A
TRANSPARENCE WAY.
THAT'S TRUE WHETHER IT'S FOR AN
INDIVIDUAL OR AN ORGANIZATION.
IN MY ROLE, MY LIFE, I'M
ACCOUNTABLE TO MY FAMILY, MY
COMMUNITY AND I'M ACCOUNTABLE
TO THE PEOPLE OF SOTO.
WE DON'T HAVE RESIDENTS SO OUR
ELECTED REPRESENTATION IS VERY
SPLIT, SO TO SOME RESPECTS, I
SERVE AS THIS SORT OF
COALESCING VOICE FOR THE PEOPLE
WHO WERE THERE EVERYDAY
WORKING, WHO ARE NOT BIG
BUSINESS.
WE HAVE THAT, TOO, BUT FOR THE
MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS WHO DON'T
HAVE TIME TO DEAL WITH
NAVIGATING GOVERNMENT AND ALL
OF THAT.
THAT'S WHY I SAID HERE TODAY TO
AMPLIFY THEIR VOICES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I THINK ACCOUNTABILITY IS
IMPACT NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE.
THE ABILITY TO MEASURE THE
IMPACT THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
THE INTENTIONALITY OF THE
PROCESS.
AND IN THAT INTENTIONALITY,
WHAT IMPACT HAS HAD GOOD OR BAD,
AND TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
THAT.
>> IT'S KIND OF A HARD QUESTION
AND I THINK IT REALLY SPEAKS TO
BOTH OF YOU, AND THE PREVIOUS
PANELS, AS WELL.
I THINK THE CBC WILL BE FILLED
WITH AN INCREDIBLE BODY TO
ENSURE THAT WE HAVE BOTH
ACCOUNTABILITY TO OUR ELECTED
INDIVIDUALS, TRYING TO ENSURE
THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY INTO
THE COMMUNITY, AND
ACCOUNTABILITY TO OFFICERS TO
MEET OUR NEW REQUIREMENTS.
WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO HEAR
DIRECTLY FROM YOU.
I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIMES IN
SODO GOING TO HOME DEPOT TRYING
TO GET READY FOR OUR FIRST MOVE
IN.
FOUR TIMES IN ONE DAY, IN FACT,
SO I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
THERE.
I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE THINGS
YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT.
HAPPY TO COME DOWN AND CHAT
WITH YOU MORE, BUT DO YOU MIND
ELABORATING A LITTLE BIT MORE
ON WHAT COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY
IN SEATTLE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF
HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO?
>> I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY
I WANT THIS POSITION BECAUSE I
THINK THERE IS A FALSEHOOD
SAYING I WILL BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE BY A COMMUNITY.
I AM HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY THE
CPC, THE BOARD I AM A PART OF,
THAT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT
ETHNICITY, OR GROUPS THAT I
COULD TAP INTO, STUFFING AND
COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY THE
SOMALI AMERICAN COMMUNITY, I
SPEAK ABOUT SEVEN LANGUAGES IS
VERY CONFIDENT IN FOUR.
I'M PART OF ALL THOSE
COMMUNITIES.
>> YOU ARE SUCH AN
UNDERACHIEVER.
>> [ LAUGHTER ]
>> THIS WILL CULTURE OF
BRAGGING IS REALLY
UNCOMFORTABLE.
I'M SORRY.
MY COMMUNITY IS THE FOLKS
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
THAT'S MY COMMUNITY.
MY OFFICE IS IN SODO.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMEMBER PACHECO?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS,
BUT THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ARE
INTERESTED IN IS HOW HAS YOUR
PREVIOUS WORK INFORMED THE WORK
úYOU WOULD PERFORM ON THE CPC.
FOR YOU, WITH THE SOMALI YOUTH
AND FAMILY, HOW HAS THAT
INFORMED THE CHANGE YOU HOPE TO
MAKE AT THE CPC AND THE WORK
THROUGH THE SODO BIA.
>> I JUST BECAME THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO.
BUT CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TALK
ABOUT LIVED EXPERIENCE.
WHEN I CAME TO THIS COUNTRY, I
HAD A NATIONALITY.
AND THEY LIVED IN THE UNITED
STATES, I BECAME A COLOR.
MY FAITH BECAME ANOTHER LABEL,
SO I CARRY A LOT OF LABELS.
THAT WAS QUITE A LEARNING CURVE.
AND BE A PERSON AT THE SAME
TIME, BUT WHAT INFORMS MY WORK
IS MY LIVED EXPERIENCE.
I WAS HIRED AS A PROJECT
MANAGER FOR THE FIRST THREE
MONTHS.
I WAS ACTUALLY WORKING IN THE
BUILDING THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE
SECURITY SHOW THAT.
EVERY NOW AND THEN, IN MY
COMMUNITY THE POLICE WILL TAKE
A RANDOM CHECK AT MY LATE OR
WHATEVER.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT
INFORMED ME, SO WHEN I HAVE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR PEOPLE
THAT ARE EXPERIENCING TRAUMA,
INTERACTING WITH POLICE, I CAN
RELATE TO, NOT AS SEVERE AS A
PERSON EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS, NOT AS SEVERE AS
SOMEONE HAVING A MENTAL
EPISODE, NOT AS SEVERE AS
SOMEBODY EXPERIENCING DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE, NOT AS SEVERE AS
SOMEONE THAT IS UNDOCUMENTED
AND FEELS THEY NEED HELP.
NOT TO THAT EXTENT, BUT I CAN
RELATE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> IN MY ROLE IN SODO, I'M
OFTEN THE FIRST CALL, AND SO
THAT MEANS THAT I AM ON THE
GROUND WITH A BUSINESS OWNER,
WHEN THEY ARE DEALING WITH A
CRISIS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN A
NUMBER THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON
EVEN IN THE LAST YEAR OF A
WOMAN WHO WAS MAULED BY A DOG,
AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO WE
WORK CLOSELY WITH THE
BUSINESSES, BUT WE ALSO WORK
CLOSELY WITH SPD.
I BRING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE
THE INSIGHTS OF DAVID AND MARK,
AND KEVIN.
AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO
HELP THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEN ALSO
UNDERSTAND THAT, AS WE SEE EACH
OTHER, BOTH SIDES, AS HUMAN
BEINGS AND PEOPLE, THE ENTIRE
IS STRONGER.
SO, COMING FROM SODO, I HAVE A
PRETTY MUCH DAILY INTERACTION
WITH SPD.
WHILE I AM VERY CONSCIOUS OF
THE WAY I LOOK AND PRESENT, MY
FAMILY IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
SO, I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE
THROUGH A WINDOW INTO ANOTHER
EXPERIENCE, AS WELL.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR
BEING WITH US THIS MORNING
AGAIN.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SHARE WITH US A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
YOURSELVES PERSONALLY, AND SOME
OF THE EXPERIENCES I THINK YOU
WILL BRING HERE.
I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE TRUE TO WHAT WE ARE
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, WHICH IS
HAVING A REALLY DIVERSE SET OF
VOICES TO MAKE SURE THAT AT THE
ROOT OF IT, EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDS THAT FIRST AND
FOREMOST, THE FIRST PRIORITY IS
TO MAINTAIN FIDELITY TO THE
CONSENT DECREE, AND THE
OBLIGATIONS OF THE CPC TO THE
COMPONENTS OF THE CONSENT
DECREE THAT ARE DIRECTLY
RELATED TO MAKING SURE THAT
THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AN
INTENTIONAL, DELIBERATE INTENT
TO REDUCE THE USE OF FORCE,
PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO
THE USE OF FORCE ON COMMUNITIES
OF COLOR, AND SO YOU KNOW,
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ISSUES
RELATED TO BIASED POLICING.
THOSE ARE COMPONENTS THAT I
THINK NEED TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE
THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION, BUT THERE IS A
WHOLE HOST OF OTHER THINGS THAT
THE CPC, AS IT NOW ENTERS INTO
A STAGE OF PERMANENCY, AND
GETTING TO A LARGER SCALE,
THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF REALLY
IMPORTANT INTEREST THAT STILL
ARE VERY IMPORTANT TOWARDS
CONTINUING TO BUILD PUBLIC TRUST
IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND OF
COURSE, THAT INCLUDES THE
DISCIPLINE SYSTEM, WHICH WE
SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING
ABOUT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER
COMPONENTS THAT HELP TO PROMOTE
AND BUILD THAT PUBLIC TRUST.
THAT INCLUDES ISSUES RELATED TO
PUBLIC SAFETY, HOW THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT ENGAGES AND RESPONDS
TO THE MOST HONORABLE MEMBERS
OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND IN PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, AND
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL
PERSPECTIVES THAT BOTH OF YOU
ARE GOING TO BRING TO THIS
PARTICULAR ROOM THAT ARE REALLY
IMPORTANT, AND I KNOW THERE ARE
SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION
GOING BACK TO ITS INCEPTION
THAT HAVE BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON
NOT FORGETTING ABOUT HOW PUBLIC
SAFETY AND THE DELIVERY OF
CONSTITUTIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY IS
FUNDAMENTALLY A BUILDING BLOCK
TO CONTINUING TO BUILD AND
RESTORE TRUST BETWEEN
COMMUNITIES, AND THE POLICE, SO
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SERVE IT'S GOING
TO MEAN A LOT OF TIME AND I
HOPE YOU ALL ARE READY TO SPEND
ALL OF THAT TIME.
I WILL TELL YOU FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE, AND I THINK THE
CBC WOULD ECHO THIS, THEY ARE
VERY INTERESTED IN HAVING A
FULL COMMISSION BECAUSE OF THE
WORK.
IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL,
AND WE ARE AT A REALLY
IMPORTANT JUNCTURE, BUT THAT
ALSO MEANS SHOWING UP AT 110%,
AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU ARE
THERE TO ENGAGE FULLY, WITH THE
WORK OF THE CPC BECAUSE IT IS
SO IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SIGN UP FOR THAT
TASK.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE
CLOSE?
OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO MOVED TO
ADVANCE THESE APPOINTMENTS, AS
SOON AS I FIND THE WORDS I'M
SUPPOSED TO SAY.
I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL
CONFIRM APPOINTMENTS 1309
THROUGH 1311 TO THE SEATTLE
POLICE COMMISSION.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE CITY
COUNCIL CONFIRM APPOINTMENTS
1309 THROUGH 1311 WITH A
UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THE APPOINTMENTS WILL BE
CONSIDERED MONDAY, APRIL 29 AT
2:00 P.M.
YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ATTEND,
BUT YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO
JOIN US.
I SUSPECT IT WILL BE FINE.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US
AND THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR FOR
BEING WITH US.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVED TO ITEM 4
PICK I'M GOING TO ASK THAT
THOSE FOLKS JOIN US AT THE
TABLE.
>> AGENDA ITEM 4 OFFICE OF
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY 2018
ANNUAL REPORT FOR BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION.
>> OKAY.
I THINK THERE IS A
PRESENTATION.
YOU WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION?
THERE IT IS.
WE WILL BEGIN, AS WE USUALLY DO
WITH A ROUND OF INTRODUCTIONS.
TELL US WHO YOU ARE, AND THEN
ANDREA, YOU ARE GOING TO KICK
US OFF?
>> ANDREW.
DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF
ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> POLICY ANALYST, AND
BUTTERSWORTH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR
OF LOOK AT AFFAIRS.
>> ANGELA CAPUTO, SYSTEMS
ANALYST.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF
HIRING ALL OF THE MOST AMAZING
WOMEN IN THE CITY.
>> I HAVE BEEN LUCKY.
HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE
TO READ THE REPORT.
WE ARE HOPING TO GO THROUGH THE
HIGH POINTS.
PLEASE, INTERRUPT US AT ANY
TIME.
BEFORE I GET GOING, I WANT TO
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
BAKO TO SAY THANK YOU.
>> YOU'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE
TO QUESTIONS AND EMAILS.
HE HAS SENT US EMAILS
IMMEDIATELY BACK.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
IT TAKES A TEAM TO DO THAT BUT
AS WE GET USED TO HAVING A
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE, I
AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT
REACHING OUT TO YOU AND THE
RESPONSE IN WHICH YOU HAVE
PROVIDED TO OUR OFFICE, AND THE
COMMUNITY.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IN
RESPONSE TO SOME OF THOSE
EMAILS IS A 48-HOUR RESPONSE
ROLE, SO FOR US, GENERALLY, WE
TRY TO RESPOND AS QUICKLY AS WE
CAN, BUT JUST FOR STAFFING,
LIKE I SAID TO YOU, WE HAVE 500
INVESTIGATIONS A YEAR, SO IT'S
HARD TO HAVE PROACTIVE UPDATES,
BUT I THINK WHEN I'VE ASKED THE
SURGEONS AND THE OTHERS IN THE
OFFICE, IF SOMEBODY IS EMAILING
US, WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THEM
WITHIN 48 HOURS, EVEN IF IT'S
JUST TO SAY WE ARE MOVING
FORWARD AND WE HAVE NO UPDATES.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE
THINGS BEFORE WE GET GOING.
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THIS HAS
BEEN A REALLY SIGNIFICANT HERE
AT OPI.
WE'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON
BUILDING BOTH INTERNAL AND
EXTERNAL TRUST AND CONFIDENCE.
WE WILL TALK A LITTLE LATER
ABOUT THIS IN THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK WITH THAT HAS BEEN
LOOKING LIKE IS UNDERSTANDING
THAT THERE IS A LOT OF
CONFUSION ABOUT THE WORK THAT
WE DO, UNDERSTANDING A LOT OF
PEOPLE DON'T TRUST THE
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM WORKS.
I MEAN BOTH POLICE OFFICERS
THEMSELVES, AND COMMUNITY
MEMBERS.
I THINK WE HEAR A LOT.
I'VE GONE THROUGH ROBO-CALLS,
RIDE-ALONGS, SPOKEN TO AS MANY
OFFICERS AS I CAN.
THEY DON'T BELIEVE OPA WORKS.
THEY BELIEVE IT'S BIASED, JUST
LIKE I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNITY FEEL LIKE HOW
COULD THIS EVER WORK FOR US
BECAUSE IT'S PART OF A SYSTEM?
WE HAVE REALLY BEEN FOCUSED ON
TRYING TO BREAK DOWN SOME OF
THOSE WALLS AND BUILD UP THOSE
TRUST LEVELS, AND WE WILL TALK
ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN
PRACTICALLY DOING BECAUSE I
KNOW THAT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT WE
ACTUALLY HAVE TO TRY TO DO
SOMETHING, SO WE WILL TALK
ABOUT THAT LATER.
WE'VE ALSO TRYING TO IMPROVE
LITERALLY EVERYTHING WE DO FROM
TOP TO BOTTOM.
THIS REPORT IS A REALLY GOOD
EXAMPLE.
THE REPORT IS CERTAINLY THE
BEST REPORT WE'VE DONE SINCE I
HAVE BEEN IT OPA.
I THINK PROBABLY ONE OF THE
BEST REPORTS WE'VE DONE AT OPA.
OUR DATA IS CLEANER AND I THINK
A LOT OF IT IS THE
ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE, WHICH
IS HAVING US LOOK AT DATA IN
DIFFERENT WAYS, SO I THINK THIS
IS A REALLY GOOD REPORTS TO
SHOW US WHAT WE ARE DOING AND
HOW WE ARE DOING IT.
AND THAT'S GREAT WORK.
LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU TO STAFF.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE A
HYBRID ORGANIZATION.
WE HAVE BOTH CIVILIAN STAFF AND
SUPPORT STAFF.
HERE, WE HAVE CIVILIANS.
AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE, WE
ARE REQUIRED TO CIVILIAN EYES
ALL OUR SUPERVISORS.
I THINK IT WAS 18 MONTHS
EFFECTIVE ON MAY 31.
WE WILL CIVILIAN EYES ALL OF
OUR SUPERVISORS.
IT WILL BE BITTERSWEET.
I THINK YVONNE UNDERWOOD, AND
TOM HOGAN, OUR LIEUTENANT, HAVE
BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL.
IT'S GOING TO BE SAD TO SAY
GOODBYE TO THEM BUT WE ARE
EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE.
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, THE FIRST
SLIDE WE HAVE SHOWS OUR
COMPLAINTS ARE DOWN 11% FROM
LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
WHEN WE SAY COMPLAINTS, IT'S A
TERM OF ART.
WHAT WE MEAN IS A ALLEGATION OF
MISCONDUCT ON PART OF A POLICE
OFFICER, SO WE RECEIVE OTHER
THINGS LIKE PEOPLE THEY CONTACT
US LOOKING AN ARREST REPORT OR
SAYING I WANT, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE
A COMMENDATION TO AN OFFICER.
THAT'S NOT A COMPLAINT, SO
LOOKING AT ACTUAL COMPLAINTS,
WE ARE DOWN ABOUT 100 AND
CHANGE FROM 2017.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY
STATISTICAL VALIDITY OR MERITS
TO THAT.
I THINK OUR COMPLAINTS TO EBB
AND FLOW.
IT'S JUST THAT WE ARE SEEING
THIS YEAR.
WHAT WE SEE ARE ABOUT 55 % COME
FROM EXTERNAL SOURCES MEANING
THE COMMUNITY.
THIS REALLY CAN BE ANYONE OUT
THERE.
IT CAN BE A COMMUNITY MEMBER,
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE CITY
AGENCIES, LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES THE CITY'S CUSTOMER
SERVICE BUREAU.
THAT'S 55% 45%, WHICH IS A
REALLY INTERESTING STATISTIC IS
FROM SPD, AND TURNOVER
OURSELVES REFERRALS, WHICH IS
UP 12% FROM LAST YEAR.
>> IS THERE A WAY FOR YOU TO
ATTRIBUTE WHY THERE WAS SUCH AN
INCREASED USE DRUGS
>> I DON'T THINK WE DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU OR ANYONE
ELSE DOES.
THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE
OBVIOUS ROBUST REPORTING IN
SPD.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY
SOMETHING.
SPD HAS PRETTY STRICT
REQUIREMENTS, BUT THAT WOULDN'T
NECESSARILY EXPLAIN THE 12%
INCREASE.
THOSE POLICIES HAVEN'T
NECESSARILY CHANGED.
SO, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT ALSO THE
DATA IS NOT PARTICULARLY CLEAN
GOING BACK PAST 2017, SO I
DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD KNOW
IF 2016, FOR EXAMPLE WAS CLOSER
TO 45%.
REALLY, WE HAVE IS 2017 DATA TO
COMPARE IT TO.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS
FOR YOU.
HOW DOES THE DATA POINT AROUND
45%.
HERE AT 45% OF COMPLAINTS
INITIATED BY OR FORWARDED BY
THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO HOW
DOES THAT COMPARE TO FREE
CONSENT DECREE?
>> WE DON'T KNOW.
>> IT'S UP QUITE A BIT.
WE HAVE SOME HISTORICAL DATA
FROM THE PAST THAT IS NOT AS
CLEAN, BUT IN GENERAL, IT SHOWS
IT INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY WITH
THE CONSENT DECREE BECAUSE OF
THE CONSENT DECREE'S
REQUIREMENTS, AND THE
REQUIREMENTS THAT ALL
MISCONDUCT BE FORWARDED TO OPA,
NOT JUST CHAIN OF COMMAND.
>> AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
I THINK WHAT WE SAW, POST
CONSENT DECREE, REALLY WHAT
HAPPENED WAS EVERYTHING
FLIPPED.
ALL MISCONDUCT GOT REPORTED TO
OPA, SO ALL THINGS THAT WERE
HANDLED WITH KLEIN
INVESTIGATIONS WERE NO LONGER
HANDLED WITH KLEIN
INVESTIGATIONS.
THAT JUST MEANS THE CHAIN OF
COMMAND, SUPERVISORS, THE
OFFICERS WERE DOING THE WORK UP
OF THE CASE, AND THE
INVESTIGATION OF THE CASE.
BUT I THINK IT'S EASY FOR US TO
REALLY FOCUS ON JUST THE
TECHNICAL PIECES AROUND LIKE
THESE STATISTICS, PERCENTAGE,
AND POINTS INCREASE.
BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN
HEARING FROM YOU, BASED ON
COLLECTIVELY FROM ALL OF YOU,
THE WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING IN
THIS SPACE.
WHAT THIS STATISTIC IS ACTUALLY
TELLING US.
WHY DOES THIS MATTER?
>> I THINK IT MATTERS.
IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
>> I ALWAYS ASK GOOD QUESTIONS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> I KNOW, ONES WE DON'T THINK
ABOUT THE AN INTERESTING FACT
WE WILL TALK ABOUT LATER IS
THAT 72% OF THE CASES WE
ACTUALLY INVESTIGATED ON THESE
45%, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, SO AN
OUTSIZED NUMBER OF OUR
INVESTIGATIONS COME FROM THOSE
REFERRALS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS
REALLY.
I THINK WHAT IT MEANS IS
SERGEANTS AND SUPERVISORS ARE
TAKING THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES
SERIOUSLY UNDER POLICY.
SOMETIMES, I THINK THEY MAY BE
TAKING IT TOO SERIOUSLY.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THERE
MAY BE SOME OVER REFERRALS AND
THAT THERE ARE MATTERS I COULD
HAVE BEEN HANDLED BY THE CHAIN
OF COMMAND THAT WERE SENT TO
OPA.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A
POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE NUMBER.
I THINK CERTAINLY, IT'S GOOD
THAT ALL BIAS, ALL FOURS CALL
SEARCH AND SEIZURE VIOLATIONS
CALL SERIOUS MISCONDUCT IS
BEING REFERRED TO OPA, BUT I
DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A
QUALITATIVE CONCLUSION THAT I
CAN REACH FOR THIS NUMBER.
>> ANDREW, CAN I ADD?
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE
PUBLIC TO KNOW THIS MANY
COMPLAINTS ARE BEING REFERRED.
I THINK OFTEN, THE PUBLIC MAY
THINK MISCONDUCT HAPPENING IN
THE FIELD IS BEING HIDDEN OR
KEPT THERE WHEN IN FACT THE
OPPOSITE IS TRUE AND THEY ARE
REFERRING A LOT OF MISCONDUCT
OR POTENTIAL POLICY VIOLATIONS.
SO, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING
FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND
THAT THERE IS A SYSTEM OF
ACCOUNTABILITY HERE.
>> THERE IS 80-PAGE IN THE
REPORT, PAGE 10 OF THE REPORT,
THAT BREAKS DOWN THE
DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE
COMPLAINANTS.
IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR TO ME,
AND I ADMITTEDLY DID NOT READ
THE FOOTNOTES, SO PERHAPS
THERE'S EXPLANATION THAT I'VE
MISSED.
BUT IN THE FIGURE 5 THAT TALKS
ABOUT THE COMPLAINANT AS A TOTAL
OF ALL COMPLAINTS, I AM
ASSUMING THAT MEANS INCLUDED
INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL
COMPLAINTS?
>> YES, THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS.
OPA IS MANDATED PER THE
ORDINANCE AND SEATTLE MUNICIPAL
CODE TO REPORT ON THE
VOLUNTARILY PROVIDED RACES, SO
THAT'S WHY WE PRESENT TWO
DIFFERENT FIGURES.
ON PAGE 10, IT'S SHOWING ALL
KNOWN RACES WHETHER IT'S
RECEIVED INTERNALLY, WHICH
WOULD BE FORWARD THROUGH OUR
SPD SUPERVISORS, OR EXTERNALLY,
SO WHEN COMPLAINT FORMS, PHONE
CALLS, IN OFFICE COMPLAINTS.
>> SO, IN TRACKING THE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE
COMPLAINANTS, DO YOU ALSO HAVE
SOME MORE GRANULAR DETAIL THAT
SEPARATES THE INTERNAL FROM THE
EXTERNAL?
>> AS FAR AS THE RACES OF
COMPLAINANTS?
>> WE HAVE A VERY WHITE POLICE
FORCE, SO I AM CURIOUS ABOUT
WHAT THE RACIAL DISTRIBUTION OF
THE COMPLAINANTS LOOKS LIKE
WHEN WE SEGREGATES THE INTERNAL
COMPLAINTS FROM THE COMPLAINTS
WE ARE RECEIVING FROM THE
PUBLIC.
>> I SEE YOUR POINT.
>> YOU'VE INCLUDED POLICE
OFFICERS IN THIS DEMOGRAPHIC
DATA POINT.
I WANT TO SEE THIS DATA POINT
SENDS POLICE OFFICERS.
OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS IN
TROUBLE.
>> COMPLAINTS THAT ORIGINATE
INTERNALLY, SO SOMEBODY
COMPLAINTS DURING AN ARREST OF
ANY ALLEGATION BIAS WE ARE
SEEING THE COMPLAINANT RACES,
WHICH ARE VOLUNTARILY PROVIDED,
MORE THAN LIKELY TO BE WHITE,
WHETHER THEY ARE DOING IT
ONLINE, WITH EXTERNAL
COMPLAINANTS, DISPROPORTIONALLY
HIRE WHITE AS OPPOSED TO
INTERNAL COMPLAINTS FORWARDED
THROUGH SPD.
IT'S 36% AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
COMPARED TO EXTERNALLY, IT WAS
18%.
>> AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS, YOU
KNOW, I THINK A GAP YOU'VE
IDENTIFIED IS WHY.
RIGHT?
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE
CAN DO, IS LOOK AT THE Y.
ACTUALLY, THIS WAS TWO CHARTS
THAT WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH
INTERNALLY.
IT'S CERTAINLY INTERESTING.
IF YOU LOOK AT FIGURE 5, THE
PERCENTAGE FOR BLACK AND
AFRICAN-AMERICAN IS
SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN IN
THE POPULATION IN SEATTLE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AND IF
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'RE
INTERESTED IN, WE CAN GET BACK
TO YOU.
>> IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD
THING IF WHAT IS OCCURRING IS
WE ARE BEING MUCH MORE
EFFECTIVE IN EDUCATING MEMBERS
OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE
HISTORICALLY EXPERIENCED MORE
NEGATIVE INTERACTIONS WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT, HOW TO LODGE A
COMPLAINT.
THAT'S A GOOD RESULT, BUT IF
THERE IS SOME OTHER KIND OF
DISPROPORTIONALITY THAT WE ARE
NOT SEEING, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
ASKING THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
WHY WHY ARE WE SEEING THIS SORT
OF DEMOGRAPHIC SPLIT, I THINK
IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR OPA
TO BE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS,
TO IDENTIFY WHETHER THIS IS A
RESULT OF BETTER EDUCATION, AND
BETTER ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHEN THERE
COULD BE A VIOLATION, AND
WHEREIN OR WHERE THEY GO WHEN
THERE IS ONE, VERSUS WE ARE
SEEING AN UPTICK IN COMPLAINTS
DEMOGRAPHIC BECAUSE THEY ARE
BEING SUBJECTED TO MORE ALLEGED
MISCONDUCT.
>> THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING
THAT IS HARD TO PROVE OR DRAW
CONCRETE CONCLUSIONS TOO, BUT
WE CAN DIG A LITTLE FURTHER,
PERHAPS IN A SPECIAL REPORT OR
ISSUE ANALYSIS
>> I HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF
CONFIDENCE IN EACH OF YOUR
INTELLECT, SO I TRUST THAT YOU
WILL BE ABLE TO DO A RIGOROUS
POLICY ANALYSIS AROUND THAT
QUESTION.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> I'M SORRY.
BUT NO, I'M JUST BEEN HONEST.
I'M BEING CHEEKY IN MY TOWN.
I APOLOGIZE.
>> I AM INTERESTED IN THE FRAME
YOU TEED UP A MOMENT TO GO
AROUND THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS
COMING OR ORIGINATING FROM SPD.
THE COMMENT THAT SOME OF THESE
COMPLAINTS COULD HAVE
POTENTIALLY BEEN DEALT WITH BY
THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
HAVE WE EXTRAPOLATED WHAT THAT
MEANS?
THERE IS TWO THINGS THAT COME
TO MIND.
ONE IS THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN
ENOUGH TRAINING OR TWO THAT
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TRUST.
CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT YOUR
THOUGHTS?
>> I THINK THOSE ARE TWO GOOD
POINTS.
REALLY, ONE THING WE'VE BEEN
WORKING ON, AS FAR AS
INNOVATION GOES, AND INTERNAL
ACCOUNTABILITY, IS TO START
EMPOWERING SUPERVISORS TO HANDLE
MINOR MISCONDUCT.
SPD RIGHT NOW IS WORKING WITH
DOJ AND THE MONITORING TEAM ON
REWORKING SOME OF THE POLICIES
TO MAKE CLEAR THAT SUPERVISORS
CAN HANDLE MINOR MISCONDUCT,
AND WHAT I MEAN IS IT'S NOT USE
OF FORCE, IT'S NOT BIAS, BUT
WHATEVER WE STOP SOMEONE, WE
NEED TO DO A TERRY TEMPLATE.
IT WALKS THROUGH THE BASIS OF
THE STOP, THE WEATHER, WHAT YOU
SAW, WHAT THEY WERE WEARING, SO
ON AND SO FORTH.
SOMETIMES,, WE HAVE OFFICERS
THAT FORGET TO DO THEM.
THOSE CASES HAVE BEEN SENT TO
OPA.
WE ARE DOING A FULL
INVESTIGATION ON WHETHER OR NOT
SOMEONE DID THE APPROPRIATE
PAPERWORK.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AT OPA AND
I THINK THIS PERSPECTIVE IS
SHARED ACROSS THE ACCOUNTABILITY
SPECTRUM, IS THOSE MATTERS ARE
BETTER LEFT FOR A SUPERVISOR,
RIGHT?
THE SUPERVISOR CAN DEAL WITH IT
AT DAY ONE TO TALK TO THE
OFFICER AND COUNCIL THE
OFFICER, TO SAY REMEMBER TO DO
THIS, TEACH MENTOR COUNCIL AS
OPPOSED TO DISCIPLINE.
WE HAVE SEEN THAT CAN BE MORE
EFFECTIVE.
I THINK WITH THE RIGHT
TRAINING, AND WITH THE RIGHT
SUPPORT FROM BOTH OPA AND THE
SYSTEM, THAT COULD BE A HUGE
BENEFIT RESOURCE WISE TO ASK,
LETTING US FOCUS MORE ON
CERTAIN CASES WHILE MAINTAINING
ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE WILL STILL HAVE EYES ON ALL
OF THESE THINGS.
CERTAINLY, ALL OF THESE CHAIN
OF COMMAND REVIEWS, WE ARE
GOING TO SEE ON THE BACK END.
THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL
WILL BE AUDITING THEM, AS WELL.
WE'VE ASKED THEM TO MAKE THAT
PART OF THEIR WORK LANE, BUT I
THINK OUR SYSTEM NEEDS TO MOVE
IN MY OPINION, TOWARDS THAT.
OPA CANNOT BE THE FOR THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE TO OWN THEIR OWN
SYSTEM.
THEY HAVE TO ON THEIR OWN
ACCOUNTABILITY.
SUPERVISORS HAVE TO BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN
PEOPLE.
CERTAINLY FOR MINOR MISCONDUCT,
SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M
SAYING.
I DON'T THINK IT IS A LACK OF
TRAINING.
THE SERGEANTS ARE DOING WHAT
THEY ARE TRAINED TO DO.
THEY ARE SENDING EVERYTHING TO
US.
WHAT WE ARE SAYING TO THEM IS
LET'S TRAIN YOU TO THINK ABOUT
IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
LET'S TRAIN YOU TO TEACH
BETTER, COUNCIL BETTER, THE
MORE CRITICAL ABOUT EVALUATING
WHAT WAS ACTUALLY ALLEGED, TO
ORK THINGS OUT MORE IN OF YOUR
REVIEWS BEFORE YOU SEND IT TO
US.
DON'T JUST EXPECT WE ARE GOING
TO DO YOUR WORK FOR YOU.
WE WILL HELP YOU.
WE WILL SUPPORT YOU.
WE WILL OFFER ADVICE ON HOW YOU
CAN DO IT BETTER BUT YOU NEED
TO DO THE WORK.
I DON'T WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE
WE ARE ABDICATING
RESPONSIBILITY.
WE ARE NOT.
WE ARE STILL INVESTIGATING A
HIGH NUMBER OF CASES AND
CERTAINLY EVERY ALLEGATION OF
MISCONDUCT WE GET WE ARE GOING
TO LOOK AT, BUT ONE OF THE
THINGS WE SEEN, AND IT'S BEEN
IN THE NEWS, IS OFFICER MORALE,
AND RESILIENCE.
IT'S A FACT THERE'S A HIGH
NUMBER OF OPA COMPLAINTS RIGHT
NOW.
AND I THINK SOME OF THAT AS AN
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF THE
REALLY STRICT REPORTING, RIGHT?
EVERY BIAS, EVERY FORCE.
WE HAVE TO, BY ORDINANCE AND
OPERATING MANUAL, INVESTIGATE
THEM, SO YOU HAVE OFFICERS I
CAN RECEIVE 10 COMPLAINTS IN A
12 OR 15 MONTH PERIOD.
THAT'S A LOT.
THESE OFFICERS TAKE THESE CASES
VERY SERIOUSLY.
IT WEIGHS ON THEM.
SO IT'S A BALANCE.
WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW
TO DO IT BETTER.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING ABOUT
INNOVATION.
WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST SYSTEMS
IN THE COUNTRY.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT, BUT IT
CAN BE BETTER, AND I THINK SOME
OF THE NUANCES IS WHAT WE ARE
TRYING TO WORK OUT NOW.
I THINK THE SUPERVISING
HANDLING OF MISCONDUCT IS A
HUGE PIECE OF 2019'S WORK.
WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER IS
WE DID A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW
MANY HOURS, 300 HOURS OF
SERGEANT TRAINING THIS YEAR,
WHERE I WENT TO AND MET WITH
ALL THE SERGEANTS TO TALK ABOUT
EXACTLY THIS.
THIS IS THE RESOURCE WE CAN BE
AT OPA.
THIS IS HOW WE CAN SUPPORT YOU
AND MAKE YOU BETTER.
THEY SEEN IT HAS MADE THEM
BETTER.
>> I'M GOING TO MOVE US ALONG
BECAUSE WE HAVE 11 MINUTES, AND
SEVERAL SLIDES TO GO THROUGH.
>> I WILL QUICKLY RUN THROUGH
SOME OF THESE OTHER SITES.
THIS IS INTERESTING FROM OUR
PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IT SHOWS --
AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE
KNEW ANECDOTALLY, BUT IT SHOWS
OFFICERS BETWEEN ONE AND FOUR
YEARS, OR OFFICERS WITH LESS
EXPERIENCE HAD THE MOST
COMPLAINTS.
WE THINK THIS IS DUE TO A
COUPLE OF REASONS.
FIRST, THEY HAVE JUST GOTTEN
OFF OF THEIR FIELD TRAINING,
AND PROBATIONARY PERIODS.
THEY ARE ALONE.
USUALLY, WORKING HIGH ACTION
SHIFTS, LIKE A THIRD WATCH
WEST, EAST, NORTH.
SO, THEY JUST SEE MORE THEY ARE
MORE ACTIVE. THUS, THEY GET
MORE COMPLAINTS.
>> I KNOW AT THIRD WATCH IS,
BUT THE PUBLIC MAY NOT, AND MY
COLLEAGUES MAY ALSO NOT.
PERHAPS, QUICKLY.
>> SPD DIVIDES SHIFTS INTO
THREE WATCHES.
FIRST WATCH IS BASICALLY FROM
4:00 A.M.
UNTIL AROUND 11:00, AND THE
NEXT SHIFT IS FROM 11:00 TO
7:00, IN THE NEXT IS 8:00 TO
4:00 SO THIRD WATCH IS 8:00 TO
4:00 A.M.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT A SURPRISE
THAT A LOT OF USE OF FORCE,
BIAS FIT CALLOUTS OCCUR DURING
THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
WHAT WE HAVE ALSO SEEN.
I DON'T REMEMBER LAST YEAR, WE
SAW THERE WAS A PEEK FROM YOUR
SEVEN TO NINE.
THERE WAS A BLIP FOR OFFICERS
RECEIVING MORE COMPLAINTS.
I THINK WHAT WE'VE REALIZED,
AND I THINK THIS IS GOOD WORK
ON LAUREN'S PART, IS IT ALSO
CORRELATES TO HIRING, SO RUM
THAT SEVEN TO NINE YEAR PERIOD,
NO 8 TO 10, WE HAD A HIRING
SURGE AT SPD.
SIMILARLY, THIS HUGE PEAK HEAR
FROM AROUND HERE TWO CORRELATES
TO A 2016 HIRING PEAK.
I THINK WE TRACKED IT DOWN,
WHICH NOW MAKES SENSE, BUT WE
DIDN'T KNOW WHY THAT WAS THE
CASE BEFORE.
PROBABLY NOT A SURPRISE THIS IS
WHERE WE SEEING THE MOST
COMPLAINTS.
WEST AND NORTH PRECINCT GET THE
HIGHEST BECAUSE OF HOW DENSE IT
IS NOW ON A GIVEN DAY, NOT JUST
BECAUSE OF SHEER SIZE.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE DOWNTOWN
CORE, THAT'S REALLY THE HIGHEST
CONCENTRATION OF OUR COMPLAINTS.
THE MOST COMMON ALLEGATIONS OF
MISCONDUCT PRETTY CONSISTENT
FROM YEAR TO YEAR ARE FORCED
BIAS AND PROFESSIONALS IN.
FORCE AND BIAS ARE MANDATORY
REPORTS.
SERGEANTS, SUPERVISORS AND EVEN
OFFICERS HAVE TO REPORT TO A
SUPERVISOR, AND OPA ANY
ALLEGATION OF EXCESSIVE FORCE
AND BIASED POLICING
PROFESSIONALS AND IS
INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S A MUCH
MORE SUBJECTIVE ALLEGATION.
I WOULD SAY ANECDOTALLY,
PROFESSIONALISM IS ONE OPA
GENERALLY ADDS IF WE REVIEWED
VIDEO.
WE WILL AT PROFESSIONALISM IF
WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
BACKWARDNESS.
>> RUDENESS, THINGS WE THINK
UNDERMINE TRUST IN THE
DEPARTMENT.
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
CASES THAT WE CLASSIFIED FOR
INVESTIGATION.
OUR INVESTIGATIONS INCREASED
10% FROM 2017 TO 2018.
LAST YEAR, WE INVESTIGATED 519
CASES, WHICH I THINK WAS BY FAR
THE HIGHEST AMOUNT HAVE
INVESTIGATED IN RECENT YEARS.
I THINK THIS IS LARGELY
ATTRIBUTED TO THAT WE ARE
CLASSIFYING LESS CONTACT FOR
CONTACT LOGS.
THAT'S WHEN WE GET A COMPLAINT
AND WE CLOSE IT OUT WITH REALLY
ANY FURTHER ACTION, SO EITHER
WE DON'T THINK THERE'S A
PLAUSIBLE ALLEGATION, OR THERE
IS SOME OTHER REASON WE ARE NOT
GOING TO CONDUCT A FULL
INVESTIGATION.
WHEN I JOINED OPA, THIS WAS A
BIG CRITICISM OF ANNE LEVINSON
AND TITO RODRIGUEZ.
BOTH OPA AUDITORS.
THEY FELT OPA WAS MISUSING
CONTACT LOGS AND OVERUSING IT.
SO, THAT WAS A SHIFTER PUT IN
RIGHT WHEN I STARTED IS WE
STOPPED DOING THAT, SO WHAT
YOU'VE SEEN IS IT HAS ENDED UP
IN MORE INVESTIGATIONS WHICH I
DON'T THINK IS A NEGATIVE I
THINK IT'S A POSITIVE.
THE NEXT HIGHEST LEVEL, AFTER
CONTACT LOGS, WHICH IS STILL
FAIRLY HIGH, THE NEXT HIGHEST
IS SUPERVISOR ACTION WHERE WE
SEND A CASE BACK TO SUPERVISORS
BECAUSE IF THEY MINOR
PERFORMANCE ISSUE, BUT WE DON'T
DO A FULL INVESTIGATION.
WILL YOU GO BAKRAOUI QUICK,
ANNE?
THE 72% WAS TALKING ABOUT
BEFORE.
OF THOSE INVESTIGATIONS, 72%
CAME FROM THOSE.
IT'S A HIGH NUMBER.
BUT THAT'S UNSURPRISING AT THE
SAME TIME.
THE MOST SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS
ARE GOING TO COME THROUGH THOSE
SUPERVISORS.
THEY WILL BE VETTED THROUGH
THOSE SUPERVISORS.
IT'S NOT THAT SURPRISING THAT'S
THE CASE.
>> DIRECTOR MYERBERG ON THE
STATISTIC AROUND MEDIATION
BEING SEVEN, THAT'S UNDER THE
OLD SYSTEM, NOT THE NEW?
OR WHAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE A
NEW SYSTEM.
>> AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE ARE TOP
TO BOTTOM REVAMPING OUR
MEDIATION.
WE'VE MET WITH STAFF, CPC, AND
WHOEVER WE CAN MEET WITH TO TRY
TO MAKE THIS BETTER.
MONIQUE, DO YOU WANT TO DO A
QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE
TRYING TO DO?
>> WE ARE TRYING TO STRENGTHEN
AND INSTITUTIONALIZE THE
CURRENT MEDIATION PROGRAM, SO
WE'VE DONE A BIT OF RESEARCH ON
BEST PRACTICES.
WE'VE DONE AN ASSESSMENT OVER
THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND WE HAVE
GRADED THE PROGRAM, SO WE KNOW
THE AREAS WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN.
AS ANDREW HAS MENTIONED, WE
HAVE BEEN PRESENTING THIS TO
ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, AND AT
SOME WIND, I THINK AROUND JUNE,
WE WILL CREATE A NEW, REVISED
PROGRAM GUIDELINE, AND ROLL
THIS OUT APPROPRIATELY, AND
SHARE FOR ANOTHER COMMENTARY
PERIOD.
>> OUR GOAL IS CERTAINLY SEVEN
IS TOO LOW.
I THINK WE'VE SEEN MEDIATION IS
AN INCREDIBLE TOOL.
THE ISSUE IS IT HAS TO BE
VOLUNTARY. YOU NEED THE
COMPLAINANT AND THE OFFICERS TO
BOTH AGREE, BUT I THINK WE
GRADED OURSELVES AND GAVE
OURSELVES SIMILAR GRADES IN
SOME AREAS, BUT WE NEED TO DO A
BETTER JOB AT MAKING OFFICERS
AWARE, WHETHER THEY ARE WORKING
WITH THE UNIONS, OR COMMAND
STAFF, WE HAVE TO SELL THIS
PROGRAM TO MAKE OFFICERS WANT
TO DO IT.
>> WE WILL MAKE SURE, ONCE WE
HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHERE
THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE, TO
INVITE YOU ALL BACK TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT THE REVAMPED
MODEL.
I DO AGREE IT'S A POTENTIALLY
POWERFUL TOOL THAT COULD REALLY
BE RESTORATIVE FOR EVERYBODY
INVOLVED.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING
IT BE SUCCESSFUL.
>> FOR THIS SLIDE, I THINK YOU
CAN SEE IN 21% OF CASES, OPA
RECOMMENDED ONE OR MORE
SUSTAINED FINDINGS THAT MEANS
WE SAID AN OFFICER HAD VIOLATED
POLICY, SO THAT IS LOWER THAN
2017, WHERE I THINK THE
PERCENTAGE WAS 28%?
>> I'M NOT POSITIVE.
NOW, IT'S IN LINE WITH PAST
YEARS.
THIS NUMBER AGAIN WILL
FLUCTUATE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS ANY
QUALITATIVE INFORMATION TO
PROVIDE, BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE
CASES, WHAT WE ARE SEEING.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> 21% OF THE CASES THAT CAME
INTO YOUR OFFICE HAD A
SUSTAINED FINDING.
>> JUST OF INVESTIGATIONS.
>> INVESTIGATION.
OKAY.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY IN 2017, IT
WAS 18%.
THANKS.
>> OTHERWISE, IF YOU ASSUMED IT
WAS 21 OF THE WHOLE PIE, THAT
WOULD BE VERY -- I WAS GOING TO
SAY IT SEEMED VERY LOW.
COMPARATIVELY, IF YOU LOOK AT
OTHER AGENCIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY, IT'S PROBABLY ON THE
HIGHER END, I WOULD SAY.
AND THE THING THAT'S ON THE
HIGHER END MAC IS WE OBVIOUSLY
RECOMMEND FINDINGS.
WE CAN'T COMPEL FINDINGS.
I RECOMMEND THEM TO THE CHIEF
OF POLICE, AND THE CHIEF
FINALLY DECIDES WHETHER OR NOT
TO AGREE WITH MY RECOMMENDATION.
THE CHIEF HAS REVERSED ME IN
2018 I THINK THREE TIMES, WHICH
IS REALLY LOW COMPARATIVELY IN
MOST OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER IN
THE 15, 17, 20% RANGE, SO I
THINK THAT'S ANOTHER POSITIVE
SYSTEM.
AS YOU ALL MAY BE AWARE, WE ARE
GOVERNED BY A 180 DAY TIMELINE
FOR INVESTIGATIONS FROM THE
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS
THERE IS A LOT OF EXCEPTIONS,
AND ROLES, BUT GENERALLY, THE
WAY WE LOOK AT IT IS WE HAVE
180 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE
INCIDENT TO WHEN WE ISSUE OUR
RECOMMENDED FINDINGS.
>> ANDREW, BECAUSE THIS IS A
2018 REPORT, SO THIS IS
REFLECTIVE OF THE ON TIME
STATISTIC, WHICH IS REFLECTIVE
OF THE 180-DAY TIME, AS IT
EXISTED IN THE PREVIOUS
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENT.
BUT YES, SO IT BE THE PREVIOUS
CDA.
IT LIKELY WON'T SIGNIFICANTLY
CHANGE THE NEW CBA.
JUST IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE
CAN MAINTAIN DISCIPLINE, IF WE
ARE RECOMMENDING SUSTAINED
FINDINGS, WE LARGELY RUN IT
FROM THE DATE OF THE INCIDENT
JUST TO BE CAREFUL.
THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
NUMBER FOR US.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I FIRST
CAME IN TO OPA, 180 HUCKABAY
WAS ONLY REALLY APPLIED FOR
SUSTAINED CASES.
IF THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING
TO BE A SUSTAINED FINDING, THEY
GOT IT DONE BUT MOST OF THE
CASES WERE DONE OUTSIDE OF IT.
I VIEWED THAT AS PROBLEMATIC
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A
COMPLAINANT AND OFFICER ON BOTH
SIDES OF THE CASE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THINGS
DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION.
NOW, EVERY CASE IS DONE THAT IN
THE 180 DAYS, SUSTAINED OR NOT.
OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE NOT PERFECT.
WE ARE STILL GOING FOR 100%.
94% IS GOOD.
IT'S REALLY A TRIBUTE TO THE
SERGEANTS AND THE SUPERVISORS,
AND OF THE 94%, IT'S IMPORTANT
TO NOTE THAT THE 6% THAT WERE
NOT TIMELY, FIRST, THERE WAS
ONLY ONE CASE WHICH WOULD HAVE
BEEN SUSTAINED, AND THAT CASE,
THOUGH, THE REASON IT WAS NOT
SUSTAINED WAS THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS.
IT WAS DONE WITHIN THE 180 DAYS
BUT THE CONDUCT OCCURRED MORE
THAN THREE YEARS AGO, SO I SAID
IT WAS NOT TO SUSTAIN TIME
LIMITS FOR THAT REASON, BUT OF
THAT 6%, SOME OF THESE ARE ALSO
CASES THAT WERE STILL FINISHING
UP FROM THE PAST
ADMINISTRATION, SO THERE'S SOME
CASES FROM 2016-2017 WHERE WE
WANT TO GET EVERYTHING DONE,
BUT THAT GOES INTO THAT 6%, SO
I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE
SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER NEXT YEAR.
I THINK 96, 97, 98%, WHICH IS
WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
>> MANAGEMENT ACTIONS ARE A
TOOL THAT ANDREW HAS ON ISSUING
FINDINGS WHERE THERE ARE,
PERHAPS, GAPS, AMBIGUITIES OR
OTHER PROBLEMS WITH THE SPEEDY
POLICY.
IT BASICALLY MEANS ANDREW IS
NOT HOLDING THE OFFICER
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ACTION, BUT
RATHER IS HOLDING THE POLICY
ACCOUNTABLE.
PERHAPS, THE POLICY WAS POORLY
WRITTEN OR WAS UNCLEAR.
IN THOSE CASES, ANDREW CAN
ISSUE A MANAGEMENT
RECOMMENDATION.
IN 2018, WE ISSUED 30
MANAGEMENT ACTION
RECOMMENDATIONS ON UNIQUE
TOPICS AND 75 TOTAL MANAGEMENT
ACTION RECOMMENDATIONS --
>> AND JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES
WHO HAVE THE REPORT IN FRONT OF
THEM, THOSE MANAGEMENT ACTION
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE REFLECTED
IN APPENDIX A OF THE ANNUAL
REPORT.
STARTING ON PAGE 30.
>> OF THE 30 UNIQUE TOPICS, 13
OF THEM WERE IMPLEMENTED
COMPLETELY OR PARTIALLY BY SPD
IN 2018, AND 33%, THE DECLINED
ACTION.
23% ARE STILL IN PROGRESS.
A LOT OF THESE TAKE QUITE A
WHILE TO IMPLEMENT.
POLICY CHANGES TAKE A WHILE.
A LOT OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN
ABLE TO BE ADDRESSED.
>> YES, COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> THANK YOU.
I WAS THINKING, AS YOU
MENTIONED, EVERY CASE YOU HAVE
TO INVESTIGATE IS SIMILAR TO
LABOR STANDARDS VIOLATIONS.
AT THE STATE LEVEL, WE HAVE A
LOT SAYS EVERY SINGLE WAGE
THEFT HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED,
BUT REALLY THERE IS PATTERNS,
RIGHT?
WE PUSHED THE DEPARTMENT TO DO
DIRECTED INITIATED
INVESTIGATIONS BY WAY OF THE
MAR.
YOU REALLY ARE ALREADY DOING
THESE DIRECTOR INITIATED
INVESTIGATIONS BASED ON
PATTERNS TO PUSH POLICY CHANGE.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
AND ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS IS
THERE IS TIMES WE WILL
INVESTIGATE A CASE.
SOMETHING MAY HAVE GONE WRONG,
BUT IT WENT WRONG BECAUSE THERE
WAS A GAP IN POLICY, OR NO
TRAINING.
THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO, TOO.
OUR WHOLE PURPOSE OF WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO IS HOW DO WE
CORRECT IT?
HOW DO WE ENSURE SOMETHING
DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN?
LIKE YOU SAID, WE USED
MANAGEMENT ACTIONS AND POLICY
RECOMMENDATIONS TO DO THAT.
AGAIN, MAYBE IT'S THE
DEPARTMENT'S ISSUE, NOT THE
OFFICER AND WHY HOLD THE OFFICER
ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY ARE NOT
BEING SUPPORTED BY A POLICY OR
TRAINING?
THAT'S OUR PHILOSOPHY, AND I
THINK IT'S BEEN A VALUABLE
TOOL.
>> YOU COULD ALMOST CROSSWALK
THE LIST IN APPENDIX A WITH THE
CHART ON PAGE 15 OF THE
ALLEGATION TO SEE WHERE YOUR
RECOMMENDATIONS CORRESPOND WITH
THE HIGHEST TYPE OF VIOLATIONS.
>> WE CAN PROVIDE THE ACTUAL
RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU IF YOU
WANT TO SEE THEM.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THE
STAFF GOES DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE
WHEN YOU SEE THESE PATTERNS.
>> THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
CONCEPT.
I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY
POLICE COMMISSION IN
PARTICULAR.
I THINK IT WAS LISA DUGARD WHO
REALLY HAMMERED ME IN THE
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
LEGISLATION PROCESS THAT THIS
REALLY NEEDED TO BE LEGISLATED
AND INCLUDED AS PART OF THE
OVERALL POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
ORDINANCE AS OPPOSED TO LEAVING
IT IN POLICY.
AND IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT
TOOL FOR PROCEDURAL JUSTICE,
FOR OFFICERS WHO FEEL LIKE THEY
DIDN'T HAVE THE TOOLS NECESSARY
TO ACTUALLY COMPLY WITH
WHATEVER THE ROLE WAS, OR THAT
THE ROLE WAS AMBIGUOUS ON ITS
FACE, AND THEY THOUGHT THEY
WERE COMPLYING WITH THE RULES,
BUT IT TURNS OUT MAYBE, THEY
WERE AND . SO, WE REALLY WANT
TO BE FAIR IN THOSE PROCESSES
TO MAKE SURE THERE IS
LEGITIMACY TO THE WORK OPA IS
DOING.
>> I THINK IT HAS DEFINITELY
CAUGHT ON.
NOW, OFFICERS WILL SAY CAN YOU
DO A MANAGEMENT ACTION?
OR SUPERVISORS WILL SAY WHAT
ABOUT A MANAGEMENT ACTION?
I THINK THEY ALSO SEE IT AS A
WAY.
>> VALIDATION PICK
>> YEAH, AND BUREAUCRACY IS
OMETIMES INTRACTABLE.
OFFICERS FEEL LIKE HOW DO WE
MAKE THIS CHANGE, AND THEY SEE
OPA AT TIMES AS A TOOL TO
EFFECTUATE THE CHANGES.
SO, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, ANY
SERIOUS AND DEADLY USE OF FORCE
RIGHT NOW BY SPD POLICY IS
CALLED A TYPE III USE OF FORCE.
FOR ALL THOSE TYPE III USES OF
FORCE, THE FORCE INVESTIGATION
TEAM IS A DEPARTMENT
INVESTIGATION TEAM IS REQUIRED
TO RESPOND TO THE SCENE.
WHEN THEY RESPOND TO THE SCENE,
THEY RESPOND TO OPA, AND WE
RESPOND, AS WELL.
WE RESPONDED THIS YEAR TO 100%
OF TYPE III INCIDENTS.
GENERALLY, I WILL GO AND WITH A
SUPERVISOR, AND MULTIPLE
SURGEONS, AS I SAID WITH USE OF
FORCE, THESE GENERALLY OCCUR AT
3:00 IN THE MORNING ON A
WEEKEND, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS
THE GREATEST TIME TO GO OUT AT
NIGHT, BUT OUR STAFF IS REALLY
VIGILANT, AND WHERE THERE NOT
ONLY TO BE TAKING PART IN THE
INTERVIEWS, MONITORING THE
INTERVIEWS, AND THE OVERALL
INVESTIGATION.
FOR AN OFFICER-INVOLVED
SHOOTING, HAVE THE OFFICERS
BEEN SHE DID SEPARATED?
MAKING SURE A COMMUNITY EYE IS
ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.
>> THIS SLIDE CRAMS A LOT OF
WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT
ANDREW SAID OUT AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION
INTO ONE PICK WE HAVE BEEN
EXPONENTIALLY GROWING OUR
COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER
ENGAGEMENT.
AS WE MENTIONED TO THIS
COMMITTEE LATE LAST YEAR, WE
PARTICIPATED IN 12 ROLL CALLS
AT DIFFERENT PRECINCTS, AND
THIS IS REALLY BEING USED TO
BUILD RAPPORT WITH OFFICERS,
TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE
PERSPECTIVE OF OFFICERS, JUST
GET OUT THERE, AND ENGAGE WITH
POLICE DEPARTMENT MEMBERS.
WE ALSO GAVE NINE SERGEANT
SKILLS TRAININGS.
TO HAVE OUR PRESENTATIONS
MANDATED SERGEANT SKILLS
PRESENTATION OR I'M SORRY,
SERGEANT SKILLS TRAINING
SCHOOLS.
WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT
PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, OPA
PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES, AND
MADE SURE THERE WAS
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE WERE
DOING AND HOW WE WERE HOPING TO
ENGAGE WITH THEM IN THE FUTURE.
WE HEARD IN THOSE INSTANCES,
THERE WAS A LACK OF ENGAGEMENT
WITH OPA IN THE PAST, SO WE'VE
BEEN TRYING TO FOCUS ON MAKING
SURE WE ARE APPROACHABLE,
ACCESSIBLE, AND WE ARE OPEN TO
A DIALOGUE WITH OFFICERS WE
HIRED THREE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
SOCIALISTS IN 2018.
THEY STARTED AT THE END OF
OCTOBER, SO WHILE THIS
COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN
COMMUNITY EVENTS MAY ACTUALLY
SEEM LOW, IT HAS INCREASED
GREATLY FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR,
AND WE ARE HOPING TO INCREASE
IT EVEN MORE NEXT YEAR.
THERE WERE JUST GETTING STARTED
LEARNING ABOUT OPA, AND THEY'VE
BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB GETTING
OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND
INCREASING AWARENESS AND
UNDERSTANDING IN THE COMMUNITY
OF WHAT OPA DOES, SO PEOPLE CAN
MAKE A COMPLAINT WHEN
NECESSARY.
AND JUST HAVE TO TRUST THAT THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS OVERSIGHT.
WE HAVE AN EMAIL NEWSLETTER
THAT GOES OUT TO ALMOST 300
PEOPLE NOW.
THOSE ARE MOSTLY SWORN
OFFICERS, AND IT'S AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR IS TO EXPLAIN
CERTAIN DECISIONS THAT ANDREW
MAKES AND POLICIES THAT ARE
MAKING ON AN EFFECT ON DAY-TO-
DAY POLICIES.
WE ARE USING THAT AS ANOTHER
MEANS OF COMMUNICATING AND
GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF
OFFICERS, SO THERE IS SOME
UNDERSTANDING OF OUR WORK.
ANDREW, OR MYSELF PRESENTS THAT
EVERY POST CLASS THAT COMES
THROUGH . SO, AFTER OFFICERS,
NEW OFFICERS, GO THROUGH THE
ACADEMY, THERE IS A POST
ACADEMY CLASS THAT FOCUSES ON
SPD SPECIFIC POLICIES, AND WE
TRY TO GET IN THERE TO EVERY
CLASS, AND MAKE SURE AS STUDENT
OFFICERS ARE STARTING THEIR
JOURNEY WITH THE DEPARTMENT,
THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT OPA IS,
AND WE CAN SET EXPECTATIONS AT
THE WARFRONT.
>> THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
WE ARE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM
NOW BUT OTHERWISE ANYTHING THAT
COMES UP WE WILL BE HAPPY TO
ADDRESS LATER.
>> THE LAST APPENDIX FOR THE
REPORT IS APPENDIX B, AND IT
LISTS APPEALS AND GRIEVANCES
PICK JUST TELL ME A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT WHAT IS THIS?
>> SURE.
AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
>> BESIDES JUST A LIST.
>> AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE, WE
ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT OUT ON
WHAT APPEALS ARE CURRENTLY
ENDING.
THE STATUS OF THOSE APPEALS.
SICKLY THESE ARE ALL THE
APPEALS OF SUSTAINED FINDINGS
THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN DISTANCE.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
DEPENDENCY.
SOME ARE FROM 2014.
SOME ARE STILL GOING TO THE
DEER BEE, WHICH WAS ELIMINATED
AS PART OF THE CONTRACT, BUT
THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY
GRANDFATHERED IN FOR THESE PAST
CASES.
HIM ARE GOING TO ARBITRATION.
REALLY, IF YOU LOOK DOWN, FROM
2017 REALLY ARE THE ONES THAT
ARE UNDER MY WATCH.
MOST OF THESE ARE JUST PAST
APPEALS.
IT'S A LOT AND I THINK THIS IS
SOMETHING I KNOW YOU THOUGHT A
LOT ABOUT, COUNCILMEMBER.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING
THE LIST, AND I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR MY COLLEAGUES AND
THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THERE'S
NOT A LOT OF DETAIL IN TERMS OF
WHAT THE ACTUAL THING IS THAT'S
BEING APPEALED FOR PARTICULARS
AROUND THE FACT OF THE CASE, AS
YOU INVESTIGATED IT, BUT I DO
WANT TO BE REALLY TRANSPARENT
THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THESE
APPEALS AND GRIEVANCES IN
DISCIPLINARY REVIEW BOARD
CONTEXT THAT WE WORKED REALLY
HARD TO GET RID OF THAT THE RB
IN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS BECAUSE
IT WAS CERTAINLY WAITED IN
LARGE FAVOR TO THE OFFICER IN
THOSE CASES.
THERE IS A HIGH LIKELIHOOD WE
MAY SEE AN THAT COME OUT OF
THESE CASES THAT ARE LISTED IN
APPENDIX B THAT IS NOT ONE WE
WOULD NECESSARILY SEE UNDER THE
NEW COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENT AND THE NEW
ARBITRATION PROCESS, AND ALSO
PROBABLY RESULTS SOME OF US MAY
NOT BE VERY PLEASED WITH IN
TERMS OF THE OUTCOME OF THOSE
GRIEVANCES, AND APPEALS
PROCESSES, SO I JUST WANT TO BE
TRANSPARENT WITH THE VIEWING
PUBLIC, AND COLLEAGUES.
I KNOW YOU SHARE THE SAME
CONCERN AND VALUE IN TERMS OF
UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATING
THAT BECAUSE THESE CASES ARE
GRANDFATHERED IN, IT ALSO MEANS
WE MAY SEE OUTCOMES FROM THESE
CASES THAT WOULD BE OUT FLYERS
IN COMPARISON TO WHAT THE
CURRENT PROCESS IS, AND MAY NOT
NECESSARILY ALIGN WITH WHAT WE
WANT TO BE.
>> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE
COULD PROBABLY DO BETTER AND
SOMETHING WE COULD FOCUS ON
THIS UPCOMING YEAR WOULD BE
COMMUNICATING MORE WITH
COMPLAINANTS, SO THEY ARE AWARE
WHEN THE CASE GOING THROUGH THE
APPEAL PROCESS.
WE DO THEY SING COMMUNICATION
BUT I THINK IT DEFINITELY FEELS
FOR PEOPLE THAT IT GOES INTO
THIS BLACK HOLE.
SOME OF THESE CASES HAVE BEEN
IN APPEAL FOR YEARS.
THAT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF NOT
THAT MANY ARBITRATORS.
IT'S A GOOD POINT AND I KNOW
IT'S ONE OF THE CONCERN, AND
ONE THAT HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS
PARTICULARLY OF LATE.
>> TWO BRIEF QUESTIONS.
>> YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.
>> APPEALED BY THE OFFICER OR
THE PERSON OF THE PUBLIC?
>> THERE IS NOTHING CURRENTLY
CONSIDERED PART OF THE
ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE, BUT
THERE IS NO RIGHT OF A
COMPLAINANT TO APPEAL RIGHT
NOW, SO A COMMUNITY MEMBER
CANNOT APPEAL THE FINDING OF
NOT SUSTAINED, FOR EXAMPLE BUT
IT'S THE OFFICER'S RIGHT TO
APPEAL, WHICH IS ENSHRINED IN
THE COLLECTIVE GETTING
AGREEMENTS.
>> IT'S A RIGHT THAT FLOWS
DIRECTLY FROM A REPRESENTED
UNION MEMBER'S RIGHT TO GRIEVE.
SO, BECAUSE IT'S CONNECTED WITH
A REPRESENTED EMPLOYEE'S LABOR
RIGHTS, THE RIGHT TO APPEAL
FLOWS FROM THAT REPRESENTED
EMPLOYEE.
>> VERY HELPFUL.
MY LAST QUESTION WAS WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF
COMPLAINTS COMING TO YOU AND
THE NUMBER COMING FROM SPD, AND
WE TALKED ABOUT THE VARIOUS
REASONS THAT MIGHT COMING FROM
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, I THINK
THAT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT?
THAT THEY ARE COMING TO YOU,
THAT THE TRAININGS HAVE BEEN,
THAT PEOPLE KNOW TO REACH OUT.
HOW DO WE ALSO MAKE SURE WE ARE
ENFORCING IT, IF SOMETHING IS
HAPPENING.
WITH THE ACCOUNTABILITY?
>> RIGHT NOW, A COUPLE
MECHANISMS.
THERE IS A POLICY WHERE IF YOU
FAILED TO REPORT, YOU CAN BE
INVESTIGATED AT DISCIPLINED FOR
THAT FAILURE, AND THAT HAPPENS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT, IT
WILL ITEMIZE FOR YOU DIFFERENT
ALLEGATIONS AND THERE IS A
SECTION THAT WILL TALK ABOUT
FORCED REPORTING.
THAT IS ALL PEOPLE THAT FAILED
TO REPORT OR A SUPERVISOR THAT
FAILED TO REPORT.
FRANKLY, THE BIGGEST MECHANISM
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS A VIDEO.
WHEN WE ARE DOING IN TAKEN TO A
CASE, WHEN MATCHED FOCUSING ON
THE ALLEGATIONS THAT WERE
ALLEGED, WE'RE REVIEWING ALL OF
THE VIDEO TRYING TO IDENTIFY
WHAT ELSE WENT WRONG.
WHAT ARE THE OTHER PROBLEMS?
WE MAY DISCOVER A FAILURE TO
REPORT THERE.
GENERALLY, SURGEONS AND
SUPERVISORS, NOT JUST BECAUSE I
KNOW THEY ARE ON VIDEO, THEY ARE
DOING THE RIGHT THING BY
REPORTING THESE THINGS.
IT'S A CULTURE OF REPORTING,
WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO
REACH NOW IS A BALANCE OF WHAT
DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE AT YOUR
END.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU.
>> MUCH APPRECIATION FOR THE
WORK YOU ALL DO.
I'VE ACTUALLY USED YOUR
MEDIATION SPECIFICALLY.
ANYWAY I CAN PARTNER THAT
SERVICE IS SOMETHING I AM
TREMENDOUSLY IN SUPPORTIVE.
>> YOU JUST SIGNED YOURSELF UP
TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE PROGRAM.
>> QUESTION REGARDING OFFICERS
WITH COMPLAINTS.
LATERAL TRANSFERS, GIVEN THAT
THERE IS A FOCUS WITH AN SPD
AND RECRUITMENT OF SPD OFFICERS
THAT COME IN THROUGH LATERAL
TRANSFER, ARE THEY TRAINED WITH
REGARDS TO JUST HOW THE OPA
PROCESS WORKS, HOW ARE THEY
TRAINED?
>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD
QUESTION.
WHEN LATERALS COME IN, THEY DO
GO THROUGH A MINIATURE ACADEMY.
SO WE WILL SPEAK TO THEM AND
PRESENT TO THEM ABOUT WHAT OPA
IS, BUT AGAIN, THE ISSUE WE ARE
SEEING IS THAT IS A 35 MINUTE
PRESENTATION WITH ALL THE OTHER
STUFF GOING ON.
THAT'S THE LAST YOU HEAR OF US
UNTIL WE COME INTO THEIR
OFFICE, SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO
MORE WORK TO GO UP THERE.
ONE THING I'M GOING TO TRY OUT
STARTING IN MAY IS I DON'T HAVE
A GOOD NAME FOR IT, SO I'M
CALLING IT OFFICE HOURS PICK
9:00 A.M.
TO 9:00 P.M.
AT EACH RACING THROUGHOUT THE
CITY, JUST TO BE THERE, SO I
WILL WORK REMOTELY.
IF OFFICERS WANT TO TALK TO ME
REMOTELY, WHETHER IT'S ABOUT AN
COLD CASE, SOMETHING I DECIDED
THAT WAS IN THE NEWS, ANYTHING,
I WILL BE THERE FOR THOSE
CONVERSATIONS.
I AM HOPEFUL THAT WILL BE SOLD
TO THEM BY THE CHAIN OF
COMMAND, SO THEY WILL TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF IT, SO I CAN TALK
TO THEM ABOUT OPA.
A LOT OF IT IS THE EMAILS WE
SEND OUT, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO
EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT AND
WHY.
I DO NOT WANT SOMEONE'S FIRST
EXPERIENCE WITH OPA WALKING IN
FOR THEIR INTERVIEW.
YOU SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH
THE PROCESS AND WHAT IT IS, BUT
IT IS CERTAINLY WORK WE CAN DO
BETTER.
IT'S ENOUGH HOURS IN THE DAY,
REACHING ALL THESE OFFICERS, BUT
LATERALS, SEE BECAUSE THEY HAVE
EXPERIENCES FROM OTHER
DEPARTMENTS THAT MAY NOT BE
GOOD.
THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AN
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM THERE.
WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY TARGETED
THEM'S PACIFICALLY, BUT WE
COULD.
>> MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION, WITH
REGARD TO THE ROLE CALLS, GIVEN
THAT SO MANY OF YOUR COMPLAINTS
ARE COMING INTERNALLY, IS 12
RECALLS SUFFICIENT?
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
REALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE
WERE TRYING TO GO TO EVERY
SINGLE ROLL CALL AT EVERY WATCH
ACROSS EVERY PRECINCT, RIGHT?
SO THERE IS FIVE PRECINCTS,
THREE WATCHES, 15 ROLE CALLS.
WE HAVE DONE 12 OF 15.
THE ONLY ONES I HAVEN'T DONE
EITHER FOR 4:00 A.M.
ROLE CALLS, WHICH I AM PUTTING
OFF AS LONG AS I CAN.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO DO THE
OFFICE HOURS.
IT IS TOUGH.
PEOPLE MAY NOT BE WORKING THAT
DAY.
IT MIGHT BE A COURT DATE FOR
ONE SHIFT I WON'T SEE.
BUT IS IT SUFFICIENT?
NO, IT'S NOT.
THE PROBLEM IS, I'M TRYING TO
BALANCE GOING TO THE'S ROLE
CALLS, DOING WHAT WE DO IN THE
COMMUNITY, WRITING UP 515 CASES
A YEAR, AND EVERYTHING ELSE
THAT'S GOING ON.
BUT WE ARE GETTING THERE.
AND I THINK IT'S A GOAL FOR US
TO KEEP DOING IT, AND MAYBE
IT'S NOT ME . MAYBE, IT'S ANNE
THAT GOES, OUR COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT FOLKS, OTHER
MEMBERS WHO ARE SWORN IN THAT
GO.
IT'S IMPERFECT.
IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, LET US KNOW.
WE ARE WILLING TO TRY ANYTHING.
LET US KNOW.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU
TARGET THEM SPECIFICALLY GIVEN
WHERE THE COMPLAINTS ARE COMING
FROM?
>> WE DON'T.
WE DON'T, BUT WE COULD PICK WE
DON'T CURRENTLY BECAUSE WHAT I
WANT TO AVOID IS SOUTHWEST
PRECINCT, FOR EXAMPLE IN WEST
SEATTLE FEELS LIKE NO ONE EVER
COMES TO THEM, SO I WANT TO
SPEND AS MUCH TIME THERE AS I
AM WEST, NORTH OR EAST.
IF WE SEE TARGETED TRENDS LIKE
THIRD WATCH WEST SEEING THE
MOST COMPLAINTS, I MIGHT GO
THERE.
I ALSO DO TARGETED.
SOMETIMES, I WILL HAVE A
TRAINING ISSUE IN THE CASE.
I MIGHT SAY TO THE SUPERVISORS,
INSTEAD OF ME HAVING THE CASE
BACK FOR YOU TO TRAIN, I WILL
TALK TO THE OFFICERS MYSELF, SO
I MAY DO THAT MORE.
AGAIN, JUST RESOURCE-BASED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS?
OKAY, GREAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ALL OF YOU.
FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING
AND MORE PORTLY, FOR THE WORK
YOU DO EVERY DAY TO KEEP US ALL
HONEST.
I APPRECIATE IT.
>>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVED TO
OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW HAS
JOINED US.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO
OUR LAST ITEM OF BUSINESS ON
THE AGENDA, AND I'M GOING TO
ASK ROXANA TO READ AGENDA ITEM
5 INTO THE RECORD.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO PRESENT ON
THE LEAD SLIDE, PLEASE, MAKE
YOUR WAY TO THE TABLE.
>> AGENDA ITEM 5, RESPONSE TO
38-THREE-A 2019 FOR BRIEFING
AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU.
OKAY.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR BEING
WITH US.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, AS
WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE
PRIOR AGENDA ITEMS DEREK IT'S
GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU HERE.
WE WILL DO A QUICK ROUND OF
INTRODUCTIONS, SO NAME AND
AFFILIATION, AND THEN I
UNDERSTAND THAT OUR AGENDA WILL
BE GREG DOSS, FROM CENTRAL
COUNCIL STAFF, WILL TEE UP THE
TOPIC, AND THE ISSUE AS IT
RELATES TO THIS SLY RESPONSE,
AND LISA, I THINK YOU'RE GOING
TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE
CONTEXT AND DETAIL REGARDING
LEAD, AND THE NEED FOR THE
DATABASE IN GENERAL, AND THEN
WE ARE GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO
SEATTLE ITM SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO GIVE US THEIR
PRESENTATION ON THE ACTUAL
CONTENTS OF THE SLY RESPONSE,
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE QUESTIONS
AND ANSWERS.
COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW, I KNOW
YOU WERE THE PRIMARY SPONSOR OF
THIS SLY.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A FEW
MOMENTS TO PROVIDE OPENING
REMARKS, I AM HAPPY TO PROVIDE
YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ.
THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL, TO ALL
OF YOU FOR COMING.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
ALL OF US FOR THE BETTER PART
OF A DECADE.
50 YEARS.
>> AT LEAST.
BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE
WORK AND SUPPORT YOU'RE GETTING
FROM THE KING COUNTY
PROSECUTING ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
AS AN EXAMPLE THAT WE KNOW THIS
IS AN ALTERNATIVE, SO WHEN WE
MET LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS
OCTOBER, DURING BUDGET, ABOUT
THE NEED TO HAVE THIS DATABASE,
THAT WHAT WAS VERY CLEAR TO ME
IS THE POLICE FOR ASKING AS
WELL.
THEY WANTED TO HAVE THIS
INFORMATION THAT WAS
ACCESSIBLE.
WE TALKED ABOUT ALLIE
FRANKLIN'S WORK THAT SHE'S
DOING WITH 311 AND CRISIS
CONNECTIONS.
>> Reporter: LIKE TO HEAR, AS
WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, HOW
THIS ALL CONNECTS.
WITHOUT THE DATA, IT'S HARD TO
PROVE IT'S WORKING, YET WE ARE
HEARING FROM THE EXECUTIVE'S
OFFICE THAT THEY HAVE QUESTIONS
ABOUT WHETHER IT'S WORKING, SO,
CLEARLY, WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE
THAT WE NEED TO RESOLVE, AND I
WOULD, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH
THIS TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO
HEAR FROM YOU ABOUT CAN THIS
PARTICULAR DATABASE THAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT, BE DONE?
WHAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE I
KNOW LAST YEAR, YOU WERE VERY
FRUSTRATED THAT IT WAS TAKING
AS LONG AS IT WAS TAKING, AND
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS
FRUSTRATED, THAT THEY WEREN'T
GETTING THE RESOURCE SUPPORT.
EVERYONE SAID WE NEED THIS.
I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
AND HEAR HOW FAR WE'VE COME AND
GO THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND WHAT
WE NEED TO DO TO GO FORWARD.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW.
WHY DON'T WE DO A ROUND OF
INTRODUCTIONS AND GO IN THE
ORDER THAT I DESCRIBED.
>> GREG DOSS, COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF.
BUT CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
MIKE BAIRD.
>> TIM TAYLOR, BUSINESS ANALYST
FOR SEATLE I.T.
BUT NANCY RICHARDS, SEATTLE
I.T.
BUT TARA MOSS, KING COUNTY LEE
PROJECT DIRECTOR.
I WORK WITH LISA.
BUCKLEY SYNDERGAARD, DIRECTOR
OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER
ASSOCIATION, AND WE ARE THE
PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE LOCAL
LEAD INITIATIVE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
WITH US PICK MISTER DOSS, WHY
DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND KICK US
OFF?
>> THANK YOU.
BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THE
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT,
38-2-2 MONACA A INDICATED LAST
OCTOBER WHEN THE BUDGET WAS
BEING DEVELOPED BY THE CITY
COUNCIL.
AT THE SAME TIME, CONCURRENTLY,
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS
IMPLEMENTING A RECORDS
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS A
VERY COMPLICATED AND LONG-TERM
ENDEAVOR, AND AS THE COUNCIL
WAS HEARING REPORTS BACK ON
THAT IMPLEMENTATION, IT BECAME
EVIDENT THAT THERE WOULD BE A
NEED FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
ASSISTED DIVERSION PROGRAM TO
COMMUNICATE SOMEHOW WITHOUT
DATABASE OR THE OTHER WAY
AROUND, SO AS OFFICERS CAME
INTO CONTACT WITH LEAD CLIENTS,
THEY WOULD KNOW THAT WAS INDEED
A LEAD CLIENT AND THEY WOULD
HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO
HANDLE THAT CALL, AND THERE WAS
SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT WHETHER
THAT WOULD BE CAPTURED IN THE
POLICE RMS SYSTEM ITSELF, OR
WHETHER THAT INFORMATION WOULD
RESIDE IN A SEPARATE DATABASE
THAT COULD BE QUERIED BY THE
RMS SYSTEM, AND IT'S THE LATTER
THAT WOUND UP BEING THE BEST
SCENARIO, AND SO THIS IS A LIE
ASKED THAT SEATTLEITES HE AND
SBD COME TOGETHER, FIGURE OUT
WHAT A LEAD DATABASE MIGHT LOOK
LIKE, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST,
AND SPECIFICALLY HOW IT WOULD
INTERFACE WITH THE POLICE
RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SO
THE POLICE WHEN THEY WERE OUT
WORKING WOULD HAVE INFORMATION
ABOUT CLIENTS.
IT DOES ALL OF THESE THINGS AND
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE
L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM FOLKS, AND SEATTLE
I.T., ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
THE RESPONSE.
SBD'S MIKE BAIRD HAS ASKED TO
PROVIDE A FEW INTRODUCTORY
COMMENTS.
I WILL ASK IF I HAVE QUESTIONS
AND THEN TOSS IT OFF TO HIM.
>> ANY QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES,
OR COMMENTS?
>> I'M EXCITED TO HEAR FROM THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT THANKS END.
I JUST WANT TO TAKE A COUPLE
MOMENTS AND REITERATE A COUPLE
OF POINTS THAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR
HAD IN HIS COVER MEMO.
COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW
MENTIONED, I THINK THE FIRST
ONE, WHICH IS THERE IS A LOT OF
CONVERSATION ABOUT ANALYTICS,
AND PERFORMANCE METRICS AS IT
RELATES TO LEAD.
THERE IS NOT CONCERN BUT
INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THE
DATABASE THAT GETS CONSTRUCTED
HAS THE ABILITY TO CAPTURE THE
APPROPRIATE INFORMATION TO BE
ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO CREATING
THOSE PERFORMANCE METRICS.
THE SECOND IS THAT THERE ARE A
NUMBER OF ENTITIES AROUND THE
CITY THAT DO CASE MANAGEMENT
FUNCTIONS, AND I THINK WE WANT
TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW MANY
SEPARATE SYSTEMS MAY BE IN
EXISTENCE, AND WHETHER OR NOT
THERE IS THE ABILITY TO GET SOME
ADDITIONAL LEVERAGE OUT OF
SOMETHING SO WE DON'T HAVE TOO
MANY SILOS WERE DIFFERENT, OR
COUNTER SYSTEMS.
>> GREAT.
CHAIR, MAY I HAVE A FOLLOW UP
QUESTION?
>> WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE.
I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO HOLD
YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WANT
TO GO IN THE ORDER I OUTLINED,
AND THAT WAS SLIGHTLY OUT OF
ORDER, BUT I WILL ALLOW THAT
LITTLE INTRODUCTORY REMARKS.
I AM GOING TO HEAD OVER TO LISA
NEXT, AND HAVE LISA WALK US
THROUGH FROM THE LEAD
PERSPECTIVE A LITTLE MORE
TEXTURE, CONTEXT AND DETAIL
AROUND THE NEED FOR THIS
DATABASE, AND A LITTLE BIT MORE
TEXTURE TO WHY WE ARE HAVING
THIS CONVERSATION IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW
WE ARE GOING TO HEAR A DEEP
DIVE FROM I.T.
AND SBD.
I'M SORRY.
I'M SURE THAT WILL GENERATE A
LOT MORE QUESTIONS.
>> I WANT TO SAY FIRST THIS HAS
BEEN INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE AND
SWIFT.
THANK YOU FOR LEGISLATING IT.
THANK YOU, SEATTLE I.T.
FOR DOING FAST, EXCELLENT WORK.
THIS WAS RESPONSIVE TO THE
NEEDS OF DIVERSE STAKEHOLDERS
NOT JUST IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR,
THE SERVICE PROVIDERS AND US AS
PROJECT MANAGERS.
THIS IS A TRULY REGIONAL
STRATEGY THAT HAS THE MOST ARRAY
DIVERSE ARRAY OF PARTNERS.
WHO HAVE DISTINCT AND SOMETIMES
VERY UNALIGNED LEGAL CONSTRAINTS
ON INFORMATION THEY CAN SHARE.
YOU DID IT REALLY FAST BUT
REALLY EFFECTIVELY.
THIS CAN BE ACHIEVED AND IT HAS
A PRICE TAG.
WHETHER IT MOVES FORWARD
DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE CO-
OWNERS OF LEAD WANT TO INVEST
IN THIS.
WHAT LEAD IS CALLED LEAD STANDS
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSISTED
DIVERSION.
WHEN IT IS RECOGNIZED THAT WE
CAN'T ARREST OUR WAY OUT OF
THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS WIDELY
EMBRACED WHEN PEOPLE COMMIT LAW
VIOLATIONS DUE TO BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH ISSUES, EITHER MENTAL
ILLNESS, OR SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO
SAY WE CAN'T ARREST OUR WAY OUT
OF THE PROBLEM.
WE STILL NEED TO RESPOND TO THE
PROBLEM AT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A
CRITICAL PIECE OF THAT.
ARRESTS MAY BE MADE AND IT'S A
PUBLIC EXPECTATION BE
ENFORCEMENT ACTION, BUT THAT
ENFORCEMENT ACTION DOESN'T HAVE
TO LEAD TO JAIL, AND PROSECUTION
WHEN THAT IS KNOWN TO BE AN AN
EFFECTIVE STRATEGY, AS LONG AS
OFFICERS HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE, SO
L.E.A.D.
ALLOWS OFFICERS TO DIRECTLY
CONNECT IN THE FIELD WITH
HIGHLY TRAINED, HIGHLY SKILLED,
HIGHLY EFFECTIVE CASE MANAGERS
AND OUTREACH COORDINATORS DOING
WARM HANDOFFS, RECEIVING PEOPLE
WHO HAVE COMPLEX HISTORY, WHO
GENERALLY HAVE CHRONIC LIFE LAW
VIOLATIONS AND IMPACTED, OFTEN,
DREW THE NEEDS THAT DON'T GET
SOLVED OVERNIGHT, BUT THAT
CONTACT IS THE BEGINNING OF A
SUSTAINED LONG-TERM STRATEGY
FOR ADDRESSING THE DRIVER OF
THE PERSON'S CHRONIC LAW
VIOLATIONS.
AND ALL THE WHILE ALLOWING
OFFICERS TO COORDINATE WITH
PROSECUTORS SO EVERY ADDITIONAL
TOUCH, IT'S NOT THE LAST TIME
OFFICERS WILL SEE THAT PERSON.
SO WHETHER THAT BE TOMORROW, IN
A WEEK OR THREE MONTHS, OR ON
KOMO NEWS, THE NEXT TIME THAT
PERSON IS ENCOUNTERED, IT'S
POSSIBLE RATHER THAN JUST
UNDOING ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT
HAS BEEN SET UP BY CASE
MANAGERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN
REINFORCE THAT, WORK WITH IT.
IT DOESN'T LEAD PARTICIPATION
IMMUNITY, BUT IT DOES ALLOW
OFFICERS TO COORDINATE THAT
FUTURE RESPONSE OPTIMALLY WITH
SUSTAINED LONG-TERM CASE
MANAGEMENT.
IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE.
PEOPLE WHO DON'T RESPOND WELL
TO ANY OTHER KNOWN INTERVENTION
HAVE BEEN SEEN TO RESPOND VERY
POSITIVELY TO L.E.A.D.
ENGAGEMENT, AND LAST COMMENT
ABOUT WHAT IT IS.
L.E.A.D.
ALMOST ALONE I THINK IS A
PLACE WHERE WE HAVE FIGURED OUT
HOW TO SHARE INFORMATION.
THIS IS LIKE THE HOLY GRAIL OF
BREAKING DOWN SILOS AND SHARING
INFORMATION, BUT A LOT OF
INFORMATION THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT HOLDS IS PROTECTED
BY THE CRIMINAL RECORDS PRIVACY
ACT AND A LOT OF INFORMATION
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDERS
TOLD IS PROTECTED BY HIPAA AND
OTHER STATE, AND FEDERAL LAWS
AND REGULATIONS AGAINST SHARING
SO PUTTING THOSE TWO SYSTEMS
TOGETHER IS VERY UNUSUAL, AND
OVER TIME, I WON'T GO DOWN THE
RABBIT HOLE OF HOW, BUT WE HAVE
FIGURED OUT A WAY TO SHARE
INFORMATION IN ORDER TO
COORDINATE, BUT IT'S DONE BY
HAND.
BY EMAIL, TEXT, BILATERAL PHONE
CALL.
THAT WORKED OKAY WHEN WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT 50 OR 100 PEOPLE,
BUT L.E.A.D.
NOW HAS MORE THAN 600 ACTIVE
PARTICIPANTS.
IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD
IDENTIFY EVERYBODY, IT WOULD BE
WELL NORTH OF THOUSANDS VERY
RAPIDLY.
PROBABLY HEADED MUCH FURTHER
THAN THAT.
WE CANNOT EFFICIENTLY SHARE
INFORMATION, NOR EFFICIENTLY
REPORT OUT ON DATA.
IS NOT BECAUSE THE DATA DON'T
EXIST.
IT'S BECAUSE EVERY REQUEST FOR
INFORMATION IS BY HAND.
YOU ASK US, WE PRODUCE THINGS.
IT TAKES ABOUT 24 HOURS, BUT
OPTIMALLY. ANY COUNCIL OR
MAYORAL, OR KING COUNTY
EXECUTIVE WORKING COUNTY
PROSECUTOR, BUDGET ANALYST,
POLICY ANALYST, WHO FELT LIKE
IT COULD GET UP AT 3:00 A.M.,
CRACK OPEN THEIR L.E.A.D.
DATABASE AND ASK THE QUESTIONS
THEY REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE
ANSWERS TO AND GET THEM BACK
IN REAL-TIME, FOR THAT TO BE
TRUE, THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW
L.E.A.D.
PARTICIPANTS ARE BEING MANAGED,
AND WHAT THE PLAN IS, AND WHAT
THE PAST CONTACTS HAS BEEN, ALL
NEEDS TO LIVE IN ONE PLACE.
HOW THAT RELATES TO SBD.
IN ALL OF OUR IDEAL STATES,
EVERY SWORN OFFICER, AND FOR
THAT MATTER CIVILIAN AND THE OF
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO
ENCOUNTERED A L.E.A.D.
PARTICIPANT, COULD FIND OUT
PARTICIPANT AND GET KEY, D.
UPDATED INFORMATION ABOUT WHO
THAT PERSON'S CASE MANAGER IS,
IF THERE IS TIME SENSITIVE
INFORMATION LIKE THEY HAVE 72
HOURS TO GET INTO HOUSING AND
IF THEY MISS THAT WINDOW, THEY
ARE GOING TO SLIDE WAY BACK
DOWN THE LIST, AND THAT MAY NOT
COME UP AGAIN FOR TWO YEARS, SO
THEY WOULD KNOW THAT.
THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO
IMMEDIATELY DO A SMART AND
EFFECTIVE THING.
IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO BOOKING
INTO JAIL BECAUSE THEY JUST
DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY
INFORMATION TO DO SOMETHING
RESPONSIVE AND IMMEDIATE THAT
IS DIFFERENT.
THE CONCEPT THAT GREG AND MARK
ALLUDED TO IS FOR US OPTIMAL
THAT ENCOUNTERING THE FIELD,
TRIGGERS A QUERY TO A DATABASE,
AND PULLS INFORMATION BACK THAT
IS IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE BY
MOBILE DATA TERMINAL, SMART
PHONE, OR ANY OTHER PORTAL
THROUGH WHICH AN OFFICER IS
GETTING INFORMATION OR TO
DISPATCH.
THAT PROVIDES JUST IMMEDIATELY
ACTIONABLE INFORMATION THAT
WOULD GUIDE AN ALTERNATIVE
RESPONSE.
A DATABASE WOULD FURTHER
TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE SEATTLE TIMES EDITORIALIZED
THE LAST COUPLE DAYS THAT
DIVERSION PROGRAMS NEED MORE
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE CONCUR NOT BECAUSE WE ARE
NOT ACCOUNTABLE AND TRANSPARENT
BUT BECAUSE THERE IS LIKE A
VOLUME AND TIMING ISSUE ABOUT
PROVIDING DATA TO THE
STAKEHOLDERS THAT PARTICIPATE.
ON DEMAND AND NOT BY HAND,
ALLOWING GOVERNING PARTNERS TO
HAVE CLEAR VIEW INTO WHAT WE'RE
DOING MAKE SUGGESTIONS FOR
REDIRECTION OR IMPROVEMENT, IF
YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE CO-OWNERS,
SO IF YOU THINK THAT'S
APPROPRIATE.
>> SAY THAT SENTENCE AGAIN?
>> THE GOVERNING PARTNERS IN
L.E.A.D.
WHO INCLUDE THE CITY COUNCIL,
THE MAYOR, SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, CITY ATTORNEY, AND
THE COUNTY PARTS COUNTERPARTS,
THE KING COUNTY PROSECUTOR, THE
SHERIFF, AND THE KING COUNTY
COUNCIL, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF
COMMUNITY CIVIL RIGHTS PARTNERS
ALL COULD HAVE THEIR OWN ACCESS
INTO THIS POOL OF INFORMATION,
RUN REPORTS, ANSWER THEIR OWN
QUESTIONS, AND THEN OPERATIONAL
PARTNERS WOULD HAVE REAL-TIME
ACCESS TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON
WITH INDIVIDUALS.
AND ALSO --
>> SO YOUR POINT IS IF WE HAVE
THIS DATABASE, AND IT'S AS RICH
AS WE NEED IT TO BE, THEN AS
POLICYMAKERS, WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT
DATA TO MAKE EVIDENCE-BASED,
DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS AS IT
RELATES TO THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM, AND OPERATIONALLY,
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE
ACTUALLY USING THE SYSTEM,
PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY ON THE
GROUND DOING THE WORK IN
L.E.A.D., IT EASES THE BURDEN
ON THEM OPERATIONALLY IN TERMS
OF BEING ABLE TO BE ABLE TO
TRACK AND MONITOR WHERE THE
SUCCESSES AND OPPORTUNITIES
MIGHT BE AS IT RELATES TO
DEPLOYMENT OF THE PROGRAM.
>> EXACTLY AND OPTIMIZES THE
CHOICES THAT EACH PARTNER MAKES
TO IMPROVE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT
THE BEHAVIOR OF THE PERSON IN
L.E.A.D.
THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH
IMPROVES.
SO TO REMOVE ALL THE BARRIERS
THAT OCCUR JUST THROUGH LACK OF
INFORMATION EXCHANGE.
THE QUESTION OF OTHERS SORT OF
KINDRED INITIATIVES, AND
WHETHER THEY ALSO NEED A
PLATFORM FOR INFORMATION
SHARING, UNDOUBTEDLY THIS IS A
KNOWN DRASS RING OF LOCAL
POLICYMAKING ON THIS ISSUE, I
THINK WE ARE QUITE A BIT
FURTHER PARTLY BECAUSE WE HAVE
THE ARCHITECTURE OF INFORMATION
SHARING, EVEN IF IT'S ANALOG
RIGHT NOW.
THAT SOME OTHERS HAVE NOT FULLY
WORKED OUT, AND WE HAVE A HIGH
VOLUME OF PARTICIPANTS ALREADY
ENROLLED.
BUT SHOWING THAT THIS CAN BE
DONE, HOPEFULLY, WILL BE REALLY
MOTIVATING AND AND FIRING TO
OTHERS, THAT THIS IS ALL WITHIN
OUR GRASP.
I THINK BECAUSE SEATTLEITE HE
DID SUCH A GREAT JOB, AND WE
HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT
THE COST IS, IT'S NOT FOR FREE,
BUT IT'S NOT UNACHIEVABLE, AND
I THINK THIS WOULD GO A LONG
WAY TOWARD BUILDING CONFIDENCE
THAT WE CAN DELIVER WHAT
EVERYONE WANTS, WHICH IS
RESPONSIVE, TRANSPARENT,
ACCOUNTABLE, AND EFFECTIVE
RESPONSES TO THESE PROBLEMS.
LASTLY, I WANT TO LET HIM IN
THE AUDIENCE, WHO DID A LOT OF
THE GROUNDWORK WITH SEATTLEITE
HE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WAS
DESIGNED IS GOING TO ACTUALLY
MEET THE NEEDS OF THIS DIVERSE
ARRAY OF OPERATIONAL AND
GOVERNING STAKEHOLDERS
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE ARE GOING TO SHIFT GEARS AND
HEAR FROM SPD, AND SEATTLEITE T
ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THEIR
RESPONSE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS
SHOULD FEEL FREE TO ASK
QUESTIONS AS WE ARE GOING
ALONG.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO GET US GOING?
>> I CAN TALK ABOUT FROM SPD'S
PERSPECTIVE, I THINK LISA DID A
GOOD JOB OF POINTING IT OUT,
OUR REAL INTEREST IS BEING ABLE
TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO AN
OFFICER WHEN THEY ENCOUNTER
SOMEBODY WHO MAY SAY I AM IN
THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM, OR MAY WONDER IF THEY
ARE IN THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE
AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO FIND OUT
IF THAT IS TRUE.
SO, OUR INTEREST IS IN BEING
ABLE TO MAKE A QUERY, YOU KNOW
SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO LIKE A
WARRANT CHECK.
IS THIS PERSON IN L.E.A.D.,
GETTING BACK THAT VERY TYPE OF
INFORMATION LISA OUTLINED, SO
AN OFFICER CAN TAKE AN
APPROPRIATE STEPS WITH THE
INDIVIDUAL THEY ENCOUNTERED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
HPD AND OUR PARTNERS, FOR US IN
I.T., WE HAD A GOOD
RELATIONSHIP BEING ABLE TO MOVE
US FORWARD.
OUR GOAL WAS TO IDENTIFY WHAT
WAS POSSIBLE, WHAT WOULD BE
REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL
THOSE, AND SO IN GENERALITY, WE
HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDINGS AND
THEN WE HAVE SOME SCOPE FOR
COSTING FOR US TO CONSIDER AS
WE MOVE FORWARD, SO TIM HAS
DONE MOST OF THAT LEG WORK AND
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM SPEAK
TO THAT.
>> SURE.
ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS TO
PRIMARILY PROVIDE THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM WITH THE TOOLS THEY
NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD IN HER
JOURNEY TOWARDS A SOLUTION FOR
THEIR TECHNOLOGY NEEDS.
OUR DOCUMENTATION WE PROVIDED
WAS BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF
BEING VENDOR NEUTRAL, EVEN
THOUGH THEY WERE ENGAGED WITH
THE PARTICULAR VENDOR WHEN WE
BEGAN OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THEM.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE
DOCUMENTATION WE PROVIDED WAS
APPLICABLE TOWARDS EITHER THAT
VENDOR OR MOVING FORWARD WITH
OTHER INDIVIDUAL VENDORS, OR
MOVING FORWARD WITH A SINGLE
SOLICITATION OF MULTIPLE
VENDORS.
SO, AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION
I HAD WITH PDA PROJECT
MANAGERS, AND REPRESENTATIVES
FROM THE PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS,
I DEVELOPED A SET OF BUSINESS
REQUIREMENTS AT SPECIFY WHAT'S
NEEDED IN THE SOLUTION SO THAT
THOSE REQUIREMENTS CAN BE TAKEN
TO ANY VENDOR, REALLY.
THEY HAVE THE BUILDING BLOCKS
THEY NEED TO KNOW.
WE NEED THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
I ALSO DEVELOPED WHAT'S CALLED
SOME BUSINESS PROCESS FLOW
DOCUMENTATION FOR THEIR DESIRED
FUTURE STATE.
IT DESCRIBES WHAT THE LEAD
REFERRAL PROCESS LOOKS LIKE FOR
BOTH ARREST AVERSIONS AND
SOCIAL CONTACT REFERRALS, AND
IT DESCRIBES WHAT THE
INTEGRATION WITH OTHER PARTNER
SYSTEMS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
SO, IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL
RESPONSE TO THESLI, WE
RECOMMENDED THE LEAD DATABASE
BE BUILT ON A CUSTOMER
RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT
PLATFORM OR CRM.
THAT PROVIDES SIDE OF THE
DATABASE CAPABILITIES.
A PLATFORM SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE
WORKFLOW PROCESSING CAPABILITY.
LISA REFERRED TO ALL THE
DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS THEY
USE BETWEEN PARTNERS, THE
DIFFERENT METHODS AND CHANNELS
TO COMMUNICATE STATUS, AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
SUCH A SYSTEM WOULD PROVIDE
NOTIFICATIONS PROACTIVELY FOR
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW WHEN
THEY NEED TO KNOW, AND IT WOULD
HELP MOVE THINGS THROUGH THE
INCEPTION PROCESS, THE
INDUCTION PROCESS INTO THE
PROGRAM IN A MEASURED MANNER.
WE'VE COME UP WITH SOME
ESTIMATES FOR REQUIREMENTS OF
COST BASED ON THE WORK THAT WE
DID.
ALSO BASED ON THE WORK THAT
TECHNOLOGY DID.
WE PREPARED A COUPLE OF
DIFFERENT REVIEWS INTO THOSE
ESTIMATIONS.
THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION WAS
FOR A VENDOR ONLY IMPLEMENTATION
WITHOUT ADDED SUPPORT OF A
PROJECT DELIVERY TEAM.
IMPLEMENTATION FOR SUPPORT
COSTS WERE ESTIMATED AT ROUGHLY
$270,000 TO NEARLY $500,000 FOR
A PROJECT WITH A SIX MONTH TO
NINE MONTH TIME FRAME.
>> TIM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, TO
PEOPLE ON THE GROUND?
TO THE POLICE?
THOSE OF US HAVING TO MAKE
BUDGET DECISIONS?
IF YOU DID WHAT YOU JUST
RECOMMENDED, WOULD WE HAVE A
SYSTEM THAT L.E.A.D.
COULD USE?
>> INDEED.
SUCH A SYSTEM WOULD MEET THE
NEEDS AS WE HAVE DEVELOPED, AS
THOSE WHO SOLUTION WAS
ENVISIONED BY PDA AND THEIR
PARTNERS.
>> SO WHEN YOU SAID 270,000, IS
THAT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE
SOFTWARE ALONE?
>> THAT WOULD INCLUDE VENDOR
IMPLEMENTATION SERVICES,
LICENSING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
THE SOFTWARE, BASICALLY, TEST
AND PRODUCTION SOFTWARE
ENVIRONMENTS, INTERFACE AND
INTEGRATION DEVELOPMENT, BASIC
USER AND ADMINISTRATOR TRAINING,
VENDOR TRAVEL EXPENSES, AND ALL
THE SUBSCRIPTION AND LICENSING.
>> FOR $270,000, WE COULD HAVE
THE SOFTWARE, PEOPLE COULD BE
TRAINED, IT WOULD BE
IMPLEMENTED, CONNECT WITH THE
POLICE PACKET WOULD TALK TO THE
POLICE OFFICER'S DATABASE, AS
WELL AS FOR THE CASE MANAGERS
ON THE GROUND?
>> RATHER THAN TALKING TO THE
POLICE DATABASE, I THINK WHAT
THE VISION WAS, IS TO HAVE A
QUERY CALL FROM SPD SYSTEMS,
AND THE SYSTEMS THE OFFICERS
ARE ALREADY WORKING IN TO THIS
L.E.A.D.
DATABASE TO TURN BACK THE
INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MAKE
INFORMED DECISION.
BUT BUT THEY'RE TALKING TO EACH
OTHER.
>> IT WOULD NOT BE A TWO WAY TO
MUNICATION PICK IT WOULD BE
SINGLE PICK
>> SO YOU COULD PULL DATA FROM
THE EXISTING SPD DATABASE.
>> SPD WOULD PULL DATA FROM THE
LEAD DATABASE.
>> SORRY, THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
GOT IT.
>> AND JUST IN THE FORM OF THAT
QUERY TO RETURN THAT IMMEDIATE
INFORMATION FOR AN OFFICER, IT
WOULD NOT BE, YOU KNOW, SUCKING
DATA INTO OUR RMS, BUT IT WOULD
BE GETTING A RETURN.
>> RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
>> THANK YOU.
IN ORDER THAT THEY HAD THAT
INFORMATION TO WORK FROM AT THE
MOMENT.
>> CAN I JUST CLARIFY?
THE NEXT STEP COULD BE, BUT
IT'S NOT REQUIRED, THAT SPD
COULD ACTUALLY MAKE REFERRALS
INTO L.E.A.D.
THROUGH RMS AND PUSH THAT TO
THE DATABASE?
I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT
OPTION WOULD BE THERE FOR A TBD.
WE WILL CONSIDER LATER OR SPD
WILL CONSIDER LATER WHETHER
THAT IS THE WAY THAT MAKES MOST
SENSE TO DIRECTLY MAKE
REFERRALS.
THAT IS NOT A CURRENT -- WE ARE
DOING THAT BY HAND.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT BY
HAND FOR A WHILE WHILE THEY GET
THEIR NEW RECORDS MANAGEMENT
SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING, SO THE
STABILIZED IN THE FIELD.
EVERYBODY TRAINED UP AND USING
IT, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE REFERRALS
COULD BE MADE USING A FORM
WITHIN RMS, THAT WE WOULD THEN
GET TO DUMP INTO THE DATABASE.
>> LET ME JUST ASK THIS.
OFFICER BAIRD FINDS AN
INDIVIDUAL, AND TALKS TO
SOMEBODY IN BELLTOWN THAT HE
BELIEVES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE
FOR YOUR PROGRAM.
SO, DOES HE THEN SENT A NOTE TO
YOU THROUGH HIS RECORD
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT SAYS
OKAY, WE'VE GOT BOB ON THE
GROUND, OR WE KNOW WHO BOB IS,
WE BELIEVE HE IS APPROPRIATE
FOR THIS SYSTEM, WHAT DO YOU DO
WITH THAT OR WHAT DOES HE DO
WITH THAT?
>> HOW SPD PUTS INFORMATION
INTO THE DATABASE IS STILL THE
PROJECT THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS
HOLDING ON.
THEY WANT TO DO THE FIRST STEP
FIRST, SET UP THE DATABASE
INFORMATION TO USE
OPERATIONALLY TO USE THE FROM
THE DATABASE.
KEEP MAKING REFERRALS AS WE
CURRENTLY DO, AND THEN CONSIDER
WHETHER, AND I HOPE I AM
SPEAKING OUT OF TURN HERE, BUT
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THE QUESTION
IS HELD OPEN WHETHER OR NOT
THEY WOULD WANT TO MAKE
REFERRALS THROUGH THEIR OWN
MESS THAT COULD PLUG INTO THE
DATABASE.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THEY HAVE
COMMITTED TO DOING, BUT IT'S A
QUESTION THAT REMAINS OPEN.
>> IF I COULD HAVE A QUICK
FOLLOW UP.
MARK, I HAVE JUST DESIGNATED
YOU AS OFFICER BAIRD.
YOU ARE OUTSIDE.
YOU FIND SOMEBODY.
WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION ARE
YOU SEEKING FROM THE LEAD TO
DATABASE?
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW THAT
YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO NOW?
>> WHETHER OR NOT THAT
INDIVIDUAL THAT I'VE
ENCOUNTERED IS IN FACT IN
L.E.A.D.
TYPICALLY, WHAT AN OFFICER
MIGHT HERE IS THEY COME INTO
CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY, THE
INDIVIDUAL SAYS I'M IN L.E.A.D.
BUT WE HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW IF
THAT'S TRUE, IF THEY REALLY DO
HAVE A CASE MANAGER, IF THEY
ARE REALLY PARTICIPATING IN ANY
ACTIVE WAY.
SO, THIS IS CLOSING THAT GAP OF
IF I'VE MADE CONTACT WITH YOU
AND YOU SAY I'M IN L.E.A.D..
I CAN FIND OUT IF YOU ARE IN
L.E.A.D., FIND OUT YOUR CASE
MANAGER, FIND OUT AS LISA
POINTED OUT, PERHAPS, WHETHER
OR NOT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET
SOME HOUSING, AND IF I MAKE AN
ARREST TWICE WHETHER OR NOT
THAT WOULD IMPACT THAT, SO I
CAN MAKE AN INFORMED CHOICE,
AND, PERHAPS, THE LAST TIME YOU
WERE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH YOUR
CASE MANAGER.
IT WOULD CLOSE THAT GAP, AND WE
WOULDN'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
>> Reporter: WE HAVE RIGHT NOW
IS SOMEBODY SAYING THAT.
>> A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE OF THIS.
YOU GUYS FUNDED NORTH EXPANSION
LAST YEAR.
IF YOU MAY REMEMBER, WE
ESTIMATED ABOUT 50 REFERRALS.
ONE OF THE DATA POINTS IT'S
VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AS
OFFICERS, AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
INVESTED IN THIS PROGRAM.
THE WAY YOU CAN TELL IF THEY
ARE INVESTED IS THIS THEY ARE
REFERRING PEOPLE.
IF THE PROGRAM DOESN'T WORK,
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO REFER
PEOPLE.
RIGHT NOW, WE ESTIMATE 50 PER
YEAR.
WE HAVE OVER 200 REFERRALS.
WE ARE NOT EVEN AT THE ONE-YEAR
MARK.
THAT'S HOW INVESTED NORTH
PRECINCT IS IN TERMS OF
L.E.A.D., SO WE ARE ALSO
TRYING TO FIND SOME INDIVIDUALS
THEY'VE REFERRED THROUGH SOCIAL
CONTACT.
THAT MEANS IT WAS LIKE HI, NICE
TO MEET YOU.
LET ME TALK TO MY BOSS, CASE
MANAGERS, GET MORE INFORMATION
FROM THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE.
WE HAVE ABOUT 99 APPROVED
REFERRALS.
THEY ARE NOT INTAKE, NOT
L.E.A.D.
CLIENTS.
THE OUTREACH CORD METERS ARE
RUNNING AROUND NORTH PRECINCT,
WHICH IS NOT A SMALL PRECINCT.
WHICH I AM REMINDED BY ALL THE
TIME FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT
TRYING TO FIND THESE
INDIVIDUALS, SO THEN THEY HAVE
SAT DOWN, TALKED TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO PRIORITIZE THOSE
INDIVIDUALS AND SAY WHO ARE THE
PEOPLE YOU ARE ENCOUNTERING 20
OR 40 TIMES IN THE PAST TWO
YEARS?
SO THEY ARE HAVING CONTACT WITH
LAW ENFORCEMENT ALL OVER THE
PRECINCT.
NOT EVERYONE IS L.E.A.D.
TRAINED.
ONLY CERTAIN FOCUSED AREAS . SO,
NOW, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED 38
PEOPLE.
PROSECUTORS ARE WORKING TO SEE
WHEN THEIR COURT DATES ARE, SO
MAYBE, CASE MANAGERS CAN REACH
OUT TO THEM THERE.
THESE INDIVIDUALS DON'T EVEN
KNOW THEY ARE IN THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM YET EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE
BEEN APPROVED.
THEY DO RIDE-ALONGS WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO TRY TO FIND
THESE INDIVIDUALS.
EVERYBODY IS WORKING REALLY
HARD TO GET THESE PEOPLE TAKEN
IN.
THE COMMUNITY SEES THIS AS A
BENEFIT.
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTORS
DO.
BUT CURRENTLY, EVEN THOUGH THEY
ARE HAVING CONTACT WITH OTHER
LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE'S NOTHING
JUMPING UP SAYING I TALKED TO
YOUR CASE MANAGER, OR THE CASE
MANAGERS CAN'T LOOK UP RIGHT
OFF.
THEY HAVE TO SEARCH EMAILS TO
SEE IF THE PERSON HAS A COURT
DATE IS THAT COURT DATE
CHANGED, THE PROSECUTOR HAS THE
EMAIL THAT CASE MANAGER TO
CHASE DOWN THE INDIVIDUAL, SO
ON THE GROUND, THOSE ARE SOME
OF THE BENEFITS THIS DATABASE
COULD PROVIDE.
BUT THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
>> SOME OF THE OTHER BENEFITS
WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE ABILITY
TO HAVE ENHANCED REPORTING
CAPABILITIES.
RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT THINGS
OPERATE TODAY WITH THE DISPARATE
LISTS, AND EXCEL SPREADSHEETS,
AND THINGS OF PARTICIPANTS IN
THE PROGRAM THAT EACH PRECINCT,
EACH PARTNER MAINTAINS
SEPARATELY, IS REALLY HARD TO
REPORT OR GATHER DATA ACROSS
ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, SO
THIS WOULD PROVIDE A
CENTRALIZED DATABASE.
A SINGLE SOURCE OF TRUTH THAT
YOU COULD DEVELOP REPORTING
CAPABILITIES THERE.
ONE OF THE SET OF REQUIREMENTS
WE THOUGHT WAS MOST IMPORTANT
WAS THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE
TO ADD NEW DATA FIELDS TO
REPORTS AND CREATE NEW REPORTS
THEMSELVES, AS TIME GOES ON.
THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT THINGS
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE
PROGRAM.
THAT'S ALL KIND OF ELSE INTO
THIS SYSTEM.
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT
THIS OPTION THAT YOU REFERRED
TO, WHERE YOU LAID OUT ALL THE
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT 270 WOULD
PURCHASE, YOU DID GIVE A RANGE
IN THETRAN07 RESPONSE OF 270 TO
490.
SO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
OUR BUDGET CHAIR, WHO IS
ATTENDING THE COMMITTEE,
APPRECIATES THAT IS A A SCALE
AND NOT JUST THE 270.
THAT 270 IS THE LOW-END MAC IT
WAS UNCLEAR TO ME FROM THE
RESPONSE, WHAT THE VARIABLES
ARE THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THESE
OPTIONS GOING FROM A LOW-END
MAC TO THE HIGHER END.
FOR EACH ONE OF THE OPTIONS,
THERE IS A LOW-END MAC TO THE
HIGH END.
PERHAPS, YOU CAN GIVE US A
LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY AROUND
WHAT THOSE VARIABLES ARE AND
WHAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE
SPREAD.
BEST PICTURE.
THERE IS BUILT IN, A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF VARIABILITY IN COST
ASSOCIATED WITH DIFFERENT
VENDORS.
WE START WITH A CERTAIN SET.
WHATEVER WE HAVE.
IN MISSION WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
IN THIS CASE, WE ESTIMATED AT
25% BELOW THE INITIAL ESTIMATE.
TO INDICATE THE LOWER END OF
THE RANGE, --
>> FROM WHO?
>> OUR INITIAL BASIS WAS THE
TECHNOLOGIES ESTIMATE, SO THEIR
INDIVIDUAL ESTIMATE WAS ABOUT
$300 MILLION FOR THE FIRST YEAR
IMPLEMENTATION
THEIR QUOTE WAS BASED ON THE
FACT THAT THEY HAD A SIX-MONTH
IMPLEMENTATION TIME FRAME.
THIS INCLUDES THE POSSIBILITY
OF TAKING NINE MONTHS TO
IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT.
>> IS ALL OF THIS MICROSOFT
SOFTWARE BEING IMPLEMENTED BY A
THIRD-PARTY VENDOR?
>> IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
MICROSOFT WE DIDN'T SETTLE ON A
SINGLE VENDOR OR PROVIDER.
WE WANT TO MAKE CLEAR WE ARE
LOOKING FOR CUSTOMER RELATION
MANAGEMENT CAPABILITIES.
A NUMBER OF VENDORS PROVIDE
THAT KIND OF SOFTWARE.
LIT MAINTAINS A NUMBER RELATED
TO THE TYPE OF SOFTWARE.
>> IS THE UNDERLYING SOFTWARE
THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING A
MICROSOFT PRODUCT OR ARE THERE
MULTIPLE SOFTWARE VENDORS THAT
COULD PROVIDE THE UNDERLYING
SOFTWARE?
>> INDEED, THE SECOND.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE VENDORS THAT
COULD PROVIDE THE SOFTWARE
NEEDED.
>> THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED
IN THETRAN07 ARE MORE FOCUSED ON
WHAT THE DATABASE TECHNOLOGY
NEEDS ARE WITHOUT REGARD TO A
SPECIFIC VENDOR, SO THIS WILL
PROVIDE A FULL SUITE OF
OPPORTUNITIES, AND OPTIONS FOR
US TO CONSIDER IN A BUTT
PROCESS THAT ARE NOT ATTACHED
TO A PARTICULAR VENDOR BUT ARE
MORE FOCUSED ON THE
TECHNOLOGICAL NEEDS OF THE
PROGRAM, CORRECT?
>> WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE
CAPABILITIES WE NEED TO HAVE,
MUCH LIKE LISA'S CAPABILITIES
ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO START
WITH, WHAT IS OUR CURRENT STATE
AND WHERE DO WE WANT TO MOVE?
WHAT CAPABILITIES MIGHT WE NEED
IN THE FUTURE, SO AS WE LOOK TO
SOLUTION SELECTION, WE WILL
HAVE A VARIETY OF
OPPORTUNITIES, AND HAVE THE
UNDERLYING CORE REQUIREMENTS TO
MAKE THAT IN AND BUSINESS
DECISION.
>> OKAY.
THAT'S HELPFUL.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APOLOGIZE IF YOU'VE ALREADY
COMMENTED ON THIS, BUT AS WE
LOOK AT THE VARIOUS OPTIONS, I
LOVE THAT YOU JUST SAID
SOLUTION SELECTION.
AS WE IDENTIFY THE SOLUTIONS AND
MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE OF THE
VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT YOU'VE
OUTLINED, ONE QUESTION THAT I
HAVE IS IS THIS SIX TO NINE
MONTHS AFTER WE PUT MONEY
FORWARD IN THE BUDGET OR IS IT
SIX TO NINE MONTHS BEGINNING
NOW IF YOU STARTED TO DO THE
BUILDOUT?
>> AS SOON AS A VENDOR IS
SELECTED, ONCE THEY BEGIN THEIR
DEVELOPMENT WORK ON THE
SOLUTION, IT SHOULD BE SIX TO
NINE MONTHS.
>> WHAT'S THE TIMELINE YOU
WOULD NEED IN ORDER TO SELECT A
VENDOR?
ASSUMING WE GET ALL THE MONEY
WE NEED?
BECAUSE IT GROWS ON TREES AND
WE GET IT IN THE BUDGET?
>> LARGELY ON THE VENDOR PROCESS
THAT'S USED.
IF YOU LOOK TOWARD THE END OF
THE'S RESPONSE, WE DESCRIBED
THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF HOW
PDA COULD SUCCEED.
HE WANTED TO SUPPORT THEM IN
ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS.
THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH
TECHNOLOGIES IF THEY FEEL THEY
MEET THEIR NEEDS AND FEEL THEY
ARE FINANCIALLY A REASONABLE
ESTIMATE, AND THINGS ALONG
THOSE LINES.
CAN ALSO INVESTIGATE THE
ABILITY FOR OTHER INDIVIDUAL
VENDORS TO MEET THEIR NEEDS, SO
THEY'VE ALREADY HAD AN
ENGAGEMENT WERE TWO WITH
INDIVIDUAL VENDORS SOMETIMES, I
BELIEVE WHICH LED TO
FRUSTRATION, AND SOMETIMES JUST
DIDN'T SEND UP COMPLETING THE
PROCESS, RIGHT?
THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO
SUBMIT SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WE
CALL A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.
WHICH IS A FORMAL SOLICITATION
PROCESS THAT ALLOWS PROPOSALS,
AND COST ESTIMATES, AND
DURATION ESTIMATES FROM
MULTIPLE VENDORS AT ONCE, AND
IT WILL ALLOW FOR THE OBJECTIVE
EVALUATION BETWEEN THOSE
MULTIPLE VENDORS.
>> AND LISA, HAVE YOU
FORMULATED AN OPINION ABOUT A
PREFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE
PROCESS QUESTION RELATED TO
IDENTIFYING A VENDOR?
>> WE WORK FOR THE GOVERNING
BODY, WHICH THE COUNCIL SITS ON
ALONG WITH OTHER STAKEHOLDERS I
NAMED EARLIER.
SO IT'S REALLY THE POLICY CORD
MEETING GROUP'S DECISION.
WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO
THEM, I SUSPECT, IS THAT FIRST,
IT WOULD BE OPTIMAL.
IF YOU KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SO
MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT LOCAL
I.T.
COMPANIES HELPING IN DEALING
WITH ISSUES OF HOMELESSNESS,
PUBLIC ORDER, THERE ARE A
VARIETY OF CONFIGURATIONS IN
WHICH THAT HELP HAS BEEN
OFFERED.
MICROSOFT APPROACHED THE
PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, WHICH IS
HOW THIS ONE BID CAME INTO
BEING.
OFFERING TO HELP.
IT WOULD BE REALLY FANTASTIC
AND OPTIMAL IF PUBLIC
OFFICIALS, WHO SORT OF CO-OWNED
L.E.A.D.
ASKED FOR THIS.
THIS IS A REALLY CONCRETE, NOT
THAT ENORMOUS, WAY IN WHICH A
DONATION COULD BE MADE THAT
WOULD RELEASE THE DUST DOWN THE
ROAD, AND MAYBE MODEL A WAY TO
BUILD A REGIONAL, INTEGRATED
APPROACH TO THESE PROBLEMS THAT
STARTS TO INSPIRE HOPE AND
LEGITIMACY, SO IF THAT COULD
HAPPEN, THAT IS SUITABLE FOR
THE POLICY CORD MEETING GROUP
AND POSSIBLY FOR YOU ALL.
IF WE ARE PAYING.
IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO PAY, I
THINK IT WOULD BE OUR
RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO AN
RFP AND IDENTIFY A PLAUSIBLE
AMOUNT THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO
SPEND, THAT SORT OF WHOEVER IS
FUNDING THIS, IS WILLING TO
SPEND AND RUN A COMPETITION
DEVISED BY SEATTLE I.T., SO YOU
KNOW YOU'RE MAKING A WISE, AND
PRUDENT INVESTMENT PRACTICES
WELL BEYOND OUR SKILL SET,
WHICH IS WHY IT WAS SO VALUABLE
THAT YOU ENLISTED SEATTLE I.T.
TO HELP US.
WE ARE NOT WELL POSITIONED TO
ASSESS WHETHER THE PRICE IS
REASONABLE AND THE PRODUCT IS
GOING TO WORK, AND YOU CAN DO
THIS TWICE.
IF IT'S NOT DONATED, AN RFP
SEEMS LIKE THE BEST ROAD
>> COUNCILMEMBER BACK SHOP.
ON YOUR PAGE FOUR, DEBORAH
JUAREZ WOULD BE CHEWING YOU OUT
RIGHT NOW.
AT THE TOP RIGHT NOW,
SUBPARAGRAPH B SAYS FOR AN
IMPLEMENT BETWEEN 443,000 AND
739,000, TALK TO ME ABOUT B AND
A AS BUDGET CHAIR, IF THIS IS A
PRIORITY FOR US, WHAT AM I
ASKING?
>> TWO A ASSUMES THE LOWEST
COST BUT ALSO HAS, WE BELIEVE,
THE LEAST CHANCE OF
EFFECTIVENESS.
WITH OPTION B, WHAT WE ADD IS
PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND BUSINESS
ANALYSIS RESOURCES.
YOU CAN SEE LISTED THERE, SOME
OF THE SERVICES THAT WOULD
PROVIDE FROM AN ORGANIZATION
LIKE SEATTLE I.T., OR FROM
ANOTHER CONSULTANCY FIRM.
BUT, WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE
SERVICES WILL GREATLY ENHANCE
THE ABILITIES TO MEET SUCCESS.
>> JUST TO MY COGS, I DON'T
EVEN WANT TO FULL AROUND WITH
SOMETHING YOU DON'T THINK IS
GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
THIS IS WAY TO CRITICAL.
IT'S NOT JUST L.E.A.D..
I THINK THIS IS THE POINT THAT
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WHICH
L.E.A.D.
IS A TOOL, AND AS LISA SAID
EARLIER, IT DOES NOT PROVIDE
IMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE, BUT IT IS
A TOOL, AN ALTERNATIVE TO MAKE
PEOPLE FEEL BETTER, BE BETTER.
AND HOPE GET THEM OUT OF THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, WHERE
THEY CAN BE THRIVING AGAIN.
I DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT'S
HALF-BAKED.
I DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT'S
GOING TO COST THE TAXPAYERS A
QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS
AND NOT WORK.
I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE US
IDENTIFY WHAT SOFTWARE YOU
RECOMMEND, OR SOFTWARE
PRODUCTS, AND RECOMMEND A GROUP
OF PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THE WORK.
THIS IS THE WORK YOU'RE LOOKING
FOR.
AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A
RATIONAL PLAN.
I WOULD HOPE COMING OUT OF YOUR
RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD
HAVE AGREEMENT THAT WHAT WE
WANT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING
TO PROMOTE THE BEST INTERESTS OF
THE INDIVIDUALS ON THE STREET.
THE TAXPAYERS WHO ARE PAYING
FOR IT, AND A RESULT THAT GETS
US OUT OF THIS SPIN CYCLE,
WHICH IS WHERE I FEEL WE HAVE
BEEN.
>> THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO
ME.
>> YEAH, AND I THINK WHAT LISA
IS SUGGESTING IS OUR GREATEST
SAVINGS TO THE TAXPAYER MIGHT
BE TO IDENTIFY A PUBLIC-PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP WITH SO MANY OF THE
TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES IN OUR
REGION THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO
MEET THE CORE FUNCTIONS NEEDED
BY THE PROGRAM IN ORDER TO
STAND UP THE DATABASE.
THAT WOULD BE A WIN WIN
SITUATION IF WE CAN FIND A PATH
TO IDENTIFYING THE PUBLIC-
PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT ALLOWS
US TO USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR
OTHER ASPECTS OF WHAT WOULD BE
NEEDED TO BE LAYERED ON TOP OF
THE TECHNOLOGY, SUCH AS, I
THINK THERE WAS A PROJECT
MANAGER THAT WAS IDENTIFIED, AN
ACTUAL REAL HUMAN, BUT ISN'T
FUNDED YET.
WE COULD UTILIZE OUR HUMAN
RESOURCES IN A MUCH MORE
STATEGIC WAY TO LEVERAGE THAT
TECH ALGAE, AND I AM HAPPY TO
BE A PARTNER IN THOSE
CONVERSATIONS FOR I.T.
AND THE PDA, IF YOU WILL FIND
THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF US
COALESCING AND PERHAPS
IDENTIFYING OUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH FOLKS IN SOME OF OUR LOCAL
TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES.
AND MAKING A REQUEST FOR A
STRATEGIC PUBLIC-PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP, AND A PROGRAM THAT
IS, I BELIEVE SUCCESSFUL.
AND THAT I BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY
STRONGLY FAVORED BY MEMBERS OF
OUR COMMUNITY, AND CERTAINLY,
BY FOLKS WERE UTILIZING THE
PROGRAM TO BE DIVERTED FROM THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
>> WE HAVEN'T COMMENTED ON THE
GREAT OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED BY
THE FACT THAT THE KING COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SEATTLE PD
WILL BE USING THE SAME RECORDS
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, SO BUILDING
A DATABASE THAT CAN BE QUERIED
BY 43, KIND OF INSTANTLY
ACCOMPLISHES A UNIFICATION OF
STRATEGY BETWEEN THE SHERIFF'S
OFFICE, WHICH USES L.E.A.D.,
AND SPD, SO IT'S REALLY A GOOD
TIME TO MAKE SOMETHING PARTNER
WITH MARK 43.
THAT'S ABOUT TO BE THE REGIONAL
RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, SO
COUNTY, CITY, PRIVATE KIND OF
MATCHING APPROACH COULD REALLY
BE VERY WELL-TIMED.
>> I'M SURE WE WILL FOLLOW UP
WITH YOU OFF-LINE TO FIND OUT
WHO THE POINTS OF CONTACT WOULD
BE THAT WE SHOULD BE ENGAGING
TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
>> I KNOW YOU BROUGHT MARK UP
WHEN WE WERE MEETING IN OCTOBER.
I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT
CONTINUING TO WORK, AND THAT
OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
SHERIFF WILL BE COORDINATING,
AND THIS WHOLE DATA CORONATION
STRIKES ME AS BEING ONE OF
THOSE THINGS THAT ABSOLUTELY
HAS TO BE DONE, SO I'M
WONDERING IF I'M GOING TO SHIFT
BACK TO YOU, CHAIR.
WE RECEIVED A MEMO FROM MIKE
FONG DATED APRIL 22, AND ONE OF
THE SENTENCES HERE IS THERE IS
STRONG INTEREST ON PART OF THE
EXECUTIVE TO MINIMIZE RISK OF
REDUNDANCY, OR BOUTIQUE
TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTIONS IN
ISOLATION OF THE BROADER
CONTEXT OF POTENTIAL I.T.
NEEDS.
I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH THAT.
>> WE DON'T WANT TO BE WASTING
FUNDS.
WE DON'T WANT THINGS WE HAVE TO
DUPLICATE, BUT I AM WONDERING
WHETHER WE HAVE GOT THE SUPPORT
OF YOUR OFFICE, OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, TO REALLY WORK ON
THIS COORDINATED EFFORT, AND IF
SO, IF WE CAN HAVE A STRATEGY
THAT IS DONE BY SEPTEMBER 1, SO
WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR
BUDGET, AND WE CAN WORK WITH
THE EXECUTIVE TO MAKE SURE THE
MONEY IS IN HER BUDGET, BUT ALSO
IF WE CAN DO THIS IN A
COLLABORATIVE WAY.
I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A COUNCIL
VERSUS EXECUTIVE OR I.T.
VERSUS THE POLICE SORT OF
RESPONSE.
WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS TOGETHER.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT
WHAT THE EXECUTIVE IS LOOKING
AT HERE?
>> I WILL LOOK TO THE EXECUTIVE
DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE US SOME
INSIGHT.
>> I THINK THE CONCERN IS AS
THE CHAIR TALKED ABOUT GETTING
TOGETHER WITH A PARTNERSHIP TO
PERHAPS MOVE THIS ALONG IS THE
IDEA THAT SOME OF THE OTHER
ELEMENTS THAT DO CASE MANAGEMENT
MIGHT NOT BE FORGOTTEN ALONG
THE WAY, TOO, WHETHER THAT IS A
CONSIDERATION FOR FUTURE
ENHANCEMENTS TO BE ABLE TO
BRING THEM IN, OR IF THEY ARE
CONSIDERED ALONG THE WAY, BUT I
IMAGINE MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE
UNDER CASE MANAGEMENT WITH
L.E.A.D.
ALSO TOUCH SOME OF THESE OTHER
ELEMENTS THAT RELATE TO CITY
RELATED CASE MANAGEMENT
ENTITIES.
IT WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE TO
HAVE A COORDINATED PLACE WHERE
THE CASE MANAGEMENT IS DONE TO
BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT NOT
ONLY EFFICIENCIES, BUT
PERFORMANCE METRICS.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE
IS, AND THAT LONG-TERM
STRATEGIC GOAL, AS I'M HEARING
AND DESCRIBED.
ON THE FLIPSIDE, I ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM IS DIFFERENT THAN OUR
ORDINARY CASE MANAGEMENT NEEDS,
AND SOFTWARE NEEDS AROUND YOU
KNOW MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE
COLLECTING APPROPRIATE DATA FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS THROUGHOUT THE
SYSTEM, AND I THINK THERE IS A
RISK OF CONFLATING THIS
DATABASE, WHICH IS
FUNDAMENTALLY ABOUT DIVERSION
FROM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM WITH OUR SUITE OF
SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE IN THE
AREA OF HOMELESSNESS.
I STILL SEE THE L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM AS FUNDAMENTALLY
DIFFERENT IN MANY WAYS.
SO, I WORRY ABOUT TAKING THE
APPROACH OF WE ARE GOING TO FIX
THE OVERARCHING TECHNOLOGY
NEEDS FOR SERVICES AT THE CITY
BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO STAND UP
AND MEET WITH SEEMS TO BE CLEAR
AND SIMPLE TECHNOLOGY NEEDS OF
A DISCRETE PROGRAM.
I THINK I WORRY ABOUT TAKING
THAT APPROACH.
IT SEEMS TO BE OVERLY
JUDICIOUS, AND SORT OF
OVERCOMPLICATED AND OVERLY
BUREAUCRATIC TO WHAT SEEMS TO
ME TO BE A PRETTY SIMPLE FOR US
TO DO IN A VERY NARROW BODY OF
WORK THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY
ENGAGING IN.
THAT REALLY LEADS TO THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND
ONE SMALL AGENCY.
>> THREE QUICK THOUGHTS.
ONE, I APPRECIATE AND CONCUR
THERE IS SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT
WHEN POLICE OFFICERS HAVE
PROBABLE CAUSE TO MAKE AN
ARREST AND CHOOSE NOT TO.
THAT'S A UNIQUE THAT CRISIS
INTERVENTION, BUT IT'S A UNIQUE
DECISION THAT REQUIRES A FIRM
BASIS.
THE OFFICER IS ABLE TO RELY ON
THE RECEIVING SYSTEM. IF YOU
ARE WALKING INTO COURT AND
ADVOCATING FOR SOMEONE BASED ON
INFORMATION GAINED FROM THIS
PARTNERSHIP, YOU NEED TO HAVE A
STRONG LEVEL OF RELIANCE ON
THAT INFORMATION.
WE ARE ASKING FOR OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT PAR FIRST NEWS
OFFICERS TO DO SOMETHING
DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S MORE
EFFECTIVE.
THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW SOMETHING
BUT THE GROUND ISN'T GOING TO
FALLOUT UNDERNEATH THEM.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY OTHER PEOPLE
DON'T NEED INFORMATION.
THE SPECIFIC NEEDS HERE ARE
PRETTY ACUTE.
BUT ADDITIONALLY, I THINK IT
WOULD BE WISE TO NEGOTIATE A
CONTRACT WITH WHOEVER IS GOING
TO PROVIDE THIS TECHNOLOGY.
THAT PROVIDES FOR MODULAR
ADAPTATION.
WE WILL POTENTIALLY HAVE AN
ABILITY TO PROCURE ADD-ON
EXTENSIONS OF THIS THAT MAKE
SENSE IN THE CONTEXT OF ANOTHER
PROGRAM.
MAYBE, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ALL
THE SAME PARTNERS, BUT IF THIS
WORKS WELL, SORT OF EXPLORING
THE ROAD IN A WAY THAT MAY
ELIMINATE WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR
THESE OTHER PARTNERSHIPS, BUT
FINALLY TO THE EXTENT WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT CASE MANAGEMENT
AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, A
POPULATION WITH BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH NEEDS, WHAT WE ARE
FINDING INCREASINGLY IS THE
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ORGANIZATION
AND CARE PROVIDERS CAN SEE INTO
A POOL OF INFORMATION THAT IS
VERY USEFUL.
WE CANNOT SEE THAT.
WE ARE NOT BEHIND THAT
FIREWALL.
LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T SEE
BEHIND THAT.
NOW TO COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW'S
POINT ABOUT THE BUILDING OF A
SINGLE DIVERSION, THERE IS A
LOT OF POTENTIAL TO PUT THESE
PIECES TOGETHER UNTIL THE
DATABASE WILL ONLY ENHANCE THAT
BECAUSE IF OUR CASE MANAGERS
CAN SEE ALL OF THAT, THEY ARE
TALKING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
PARTNERS WHO GET THE BENEFIT OF
ALL OF THAT.
I THINK IT WILL INCREASE THE
INTELLIGENCE OF OUR WHOLE
SYSTEM TO START BY HAVING THIS
KEY PARTNERSHIP BE AWARE OF
MORE INFORMATION THEY NEED AT
CRITICAL DECISION POINTS.
>> A KEYWORD YOU JUST SAID WAS
MODULAR ADD-ONS.
WE DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE
ANYTHING.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE A
BOUTIQUE ALL BY OURSELVES
DATABASE.
WE WANT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE
SHARED.
YOU SAID ABOUT THE CASE
MANAGERS.
IT ALSO COMES BACK TO OUR LOW
ACUITY WORK.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THE LOW ACUITY PROJECT SO
MANY OF US WORKED SO HARD LAST
YEAR TO GET ONLINE.
I THINK THE PUBLIC IS CRYING
OUT FOR THIS, AND GOODNESS
KNOWS WHETHER YOU ARE LOOKING AT
KOMO NEWS OR SCOTLAND NEWS
REPORTERS, ALL OF THE ARTICLES
THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT
THIS, WE ARE LOOKING FOR
SOLUTIONS.
IT'S THAT INTERFACE.
WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT A
CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM, BUT
MORE HOUSING IS NEEDED, AND
MORE MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH.
THE TOOLS HAVE GOT TO BE
AVAILABLE TO HELP US COORDINATE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
ALL OF US WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING
ON IT, AND JUST MY FERVENT HOPE
AND DESIRE, IS THAT WE CAN GET
THIS FUNDED, FRANKLY IDENTIFIED
BEFORE BUDGET STARTS IN OCTOBER
BECAUSE I KEEP LOOKING AT MY
WATCH, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT
ANOTHER SEVEN MONTHS.
I WANT TO SEE SOME RESULTS.
THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
>> WE ARE SELLING THE NAMING
RIGHTS OF THE DATABASE.
>> THE SALLY BAGSHAW DAY.
>> [ LAUGHTER ]
>> I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE
UP HERE BECAUSE WE ARE CLOSE TO
15 MINUTES OVER THE ALLOTTED
TIME.
I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF
EVERYBODY IS PART-TIME, BUT I
DO WANT TO PICK UP ON A THREAD
THAT COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW PUT
OUT THERE, WHICH IS HOW I
BELIEVE THAT JUST LIKE HER, THAT
THE PUBLIC IS REALLY CRYING OUT
FOR US TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT
ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES THAT
ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE
WORK THAT L.E.A.D.
DOES.
IT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOOL
FOR US TO REALLY BE ABLE TO
RISE TO THE OCCASION, TO MEET
SOME OF THE CRIME AND DISORDER
CONCERNS THAT FOLKS HAVE WHILE
ALSO MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY SUFFERING
AND OUR SOLUTION HAS BEEN TO
FUNNEL PEOPLE INTO JAIL AND THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
THAT IS NOT A SOLUTION.
IT CONTINUES TO PUT US IN A
SITUATION WHERE WE ARE
CONTINUING TO PERPETUATE THE
STATUS QUO OF GORILLAS AND
PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS OR SUFFERING FROM
ADDICTION.
THIS ALLOWS US TO SUPPORT,
ALLOWS US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE
IN THIS AREA AND I BELIEVE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE ELECTED US ARE
DEMANDING WE RISE TO THE
OCCASION.
TWO, THIS CITY COUNCIL
CONTINUES TO BE ACCUSED ABOUT
ITS LACK OF WILLINGNESS TO SELL
TOWARD TOOLS THAT WILL ALLOW
POLICE OFFICERS TO DO THEIR
WORK, AND DO IT EFFECTIVELY.
THIS DATABASE AS FAR AS I CAN
TELL IS THE TOOL THAT OFFICERS
NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR
WORK EFFECTIVELY, AND NOT THE
ACCUSED OF FALSELY ARRESTING OR
NOT DOING ANYTHING, OR HAVING
THEIR HANDS TIED, TO NOT BEING
ABLE TO ARREST PEOPLE OR DIVERT
PEOPLE OFF OF THE STREETS INTO
THE HELP THAT THEY NEED.
THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY AS CITY
COUNCIL TO THE RECORD THAT WE
ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TOOL,
WHICH WILL PROVIDE A TOOL
DIRECTLY TO OFFICERS TO BE ABLE
TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS, AND
ADDRESS THE CRIME AND DISORDER
OCCURRING ON THE STREET, WHILE
ALSO ADDRESSING THE HUMAN
SUFFERING OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
HAVING THESE EXPERIENCES.
I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONTINUE
TO SUPPORT THIS DATABASE TOOL
TO ALLOW OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO
DO THE JOB THAT THEY WANT TO
DO, AND TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT
NOW IS A MISTAKE, AND I DON'T
SUPPORT MOVING AWAY FROM IT I
GOT A LITTLE FIRED UP ABOUT
THAT, BUT I FEEL PRETTY
STRONGLY ABOUT THAT.
>> OBVIOUSLY, YOU DO.
NOT A PREPARED SCRIPT.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE HAS BEEN SO
MUCH WRITTEN ABOUT HOW THE
POLICE SAY THEIR HANDS ARE TIED.
THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING TO ALL
OF US BECAUSE WE KNOW WE ARE
DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO BOTH
TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE ON THE
STREET, BUT ALSO TO TAKE CARE
OF THE NEIGHBORS, WHO WERE
SAYING YOU JUST CAN'T LET
PEOPLE CONTINUE BREAKING IN AND
STEALING STUFF.
THIS IS A STEP FORWARD THAT
SUPPORTS THE PROGRAM THAT NOT
ONLY, LISA, YOU'VE AND WORKING
ON FOR THE BETTER PART OF YOUR
LIFETIME, IT SEEMS, BUT THAT
OUR KING COUNTY PROSECUTING
ATTORNEY, OUR CITY ATTORNEY
WANTS US TO DO, AND IT'S NOT
LIKE IT'S EITHER OR.
IT'S AN AND PICK IT'S ALWAYS AN
AND PICK THIS GIVES HIM ONE
MORE OPTION AND ONE MORE
CHOICE.
LET'S GO.
>> THOSE REFERRALS ARE BEING
MADE BY OFFICERS, MAKE NO
MISTAKE.
THAT'S WHERE THE REFERRALS COME
FROM.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO REFER
PEOPLE TO A PROGRAM THAT THEY
DON'T BELIEVE IN, THAT THEY
DON'T THINK IS LEGITIMATE
CLEARLY, OUR OFFICERS BELIEVE
L.E.A.D.
IS A LEGITIMATE, HELPFUL
TOOL TO ADDRESS WHAT THEY ARE
SEEING EVERY DAY IN THE FIELD.
WE ARE DRAGGING OUR FEET ON
WHAT, I THINK, IS A PRETTY
SIMPLE, TECHNOLOGICAL FIX, TO
MAKE SURE THE PROGRAM CONTINUES
TO WORK, AND IT IS MEETING THE
NEEDS OF THE OFFICERS WHO ARE
GOING TO BE PRIMARY USERS OF
THIS TOOL, SO I MADE THESE
REMARKS AS NOT AN INSULT OR
CRITICISM OF THE SEATTLE
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT, OR SPD.
I'M ACTUALLY ADVOCATING FOR YOU
ALL.
I REALLY DO.
I THINK JUST THE COMMENTS AROUND
HOW DISCONNECTED OFFICERS ARE
FROM BEING ABLE TO VERIFY
WHETHER THE PERSON THEY ARE
ENGAGING WITH EITHER IN A
SOCIAL CONTEXT OR OTHERWISE IS
NOT FAIR TO THEM.
WE ARE MAKING THEIR JOB THAT
MUCH HARDER.
AT THE SAME TIME, WHILE WE ARE
MAKING THE JOB HARDER FOR
OFFICERS, WE ARE ALSO DOING AN
INCREDIBLE DISSERVICE TO THE
PEOPLE WHO COULD BE
LEGITIMATELY ENGAGED IN THE
L.E.A.D.
PROGRAM AND BEGIN TO MOVE ON
TO A BETTER PLACE.
I HOPE WE CAN ALL CONTINUE TO
WORK TOGETHER ON THIS AND WE
CAN DO THAT WITH A SENSE OF
URGENCY, AND WHAT SORT OF AN
ANCHOR IN KNOWING THIS IS THE
RIGHT DIRECTION FOR US NOW.
THOSE ARE ALL OF MY SENTIMENTS
ON THIS ISSUE FOR NOW.
>> LET'S WORK TOWARD AUCTION
OPTION 2B TOGETHER.
THIS IS IN NO WAY A COMPLAINT
ABOUT YOU ALL.
THIS IS THANKING YOU FOR ALL
THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.
AND THE CORONATION, AND FOR THE
OFFICERS TO KNOW THAT WE WANT
TO HAVE THEIR BACKS, SO --
>> MAY I JUST ADD ONE MORE DATA
POINT, WHICH IS THAT WE EXPANDED
TO SODO A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
OUR FIRST REFERRAL WAS FROM A
CAPTAIN.
THAT IS HOW DEDICATED THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WITH THIS
PROGRAM.
WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE ROLLING
AND SINCE THEN.
>> I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE
OFFICERS WHO SEE THIS AS A
VIABLE TOOL AND OPTION, AND TO
CONTINUE TO SHARE THEIR
EXPERIENCES, THEIR POSITIVE
EXPERIENCES WITH THE PROGRAM,
AND I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT
DATA POINTS FOR US TO HAVE AS
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AND AS
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED
EFFORT, AND COLLABORATION.
THIS BABE HAS COME A LONG WAY
SINCE IT FIRST STARTED, AND I
THINK WE ARE IN A REALLY
POSITIVE SPACE RIGHT NOW, AND
WE JUST NEED TO BE REALLY
SERIOUS ABOUT KEEPING UP THE
MOMENTUM, AND THE SENSE OF
URGENCY THAT I CONTINUE TO SEE
FROM OFFICERS WHO FEEL LIKE
THEY DON'T HAVE VIABLE TOOLS AT
THEIR DISPOSAL IS REAL, AND I
BELIEVE ONE OF THE CONTRIBUTING
FACTORS TO LOW MORALE IN THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR TOOLS
AVAILABLE TO US NOW TO BEGIN TO
TURN THE CORNER THERE.
THAT BEING SAID, DOES ANYBODY
ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY
BEFORE WE ADJOURN?
KNOW?
GREAT.
THIS WAS OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE
VIEWING PUBLIC THAT WE WILL
HAVE A SPECIAL CONVENING OF
THIS COMMITTEE THIS FRIDAY AT
1:00. 12:00 OVER THE NOON HOUR.
IT WILL BE A LUNCH AND LEARN
HOSTING PUGET SOUND REGIONAL
COUNCIL AND TRANSPORTATION
CHOICES COALITION, FUTURE LIES,
CLIMATE CHOICES, AND OTHERS AT
THE TABLE TO HEAR ABOUT THE
PUGET SOUND REGIONAL COUNCIL'S
VISITS 2050, WHICH IS A PLAN
AROUND REGIONAL GROWTH AND WE
ARE GOING TO HOPEFULLY BE ABLE
TO SEND TO THE CONVERSATION NOT
JUST ON THE REGIONAL GROWTH
PLAN, BUT REALLY CENTER THAT
CONVERSATION ON EQUITY, AND
MAKING SURE THOSE FOLKS
CONTINUE TO BE PART OF OUR
REGION FROM HOUSING TO
TRANSPORTATION.
REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO
HOSTING THAT LUNCH AND LEARN
CONVERSATION IN CHAMBERS AT
NOON THIS FRIDAY, APRIL 26.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING SOME
OF YOU THERE IF YOU'RE
INTERESTED.
THAT SAID, THIS MEETING IS
ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.