>>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
THE AUGUST 17, 2020 COUNCIL
BRIEFING MEETING WILL COME TO
ORDER.
THE TIME IS 9:31 A.M.
WILL THE CLERK IS CALLED THE
ROLE.
THREE [ LAUGHTER ] COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS?
>> PRESENT.
>> HERBOLD?
>> LEWIS?
>> PRESENT.
>> MORALES?
>> HERE.
>> PEDERSEN?
>> HERE.
>> HERBOLD?
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ?
>> CARE.
>> SIX PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE
OBJECTIONS OF 2020 WILL BE
ADOPTED.
HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, THE
MINUTES ARE ADOPTED.
PRESIDENT'S REPORT.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
FOLKS ARE REMINDED THAT SUMMER
RECESS SCHEDULE WHEN IT COMES
TO RULES, THERE WILL BE NO
COUNCIL BRIEFING OR CITY
COUNCIL MEETING FROM MONDAY
AUGUST 24th.
THROUGH MONDAY SEPTEMBER 7th.
SO, THERE WILL BE NO COUNCIL
BRIEFING OR CITY COUNCIL
MEETINGS, OR ANY COMMITTEE
MEETINGS DURING THAT
ESTABLISHED SUMMER RECESS
SCHEDULE.
THE COUNCIL WILL RESUME ITS
REGULAR MEETINGS, INCLUDING
COUNCIL BRIEFINGS AND CITY
COUNCIL MEETINGS ON TUESDAY,
SEPTEMBER 8th, WHICH IS THE DAY
AFTER LABOR DAY.
OKAY.
>>> THAT'S IT FOR ME IN TERMS
OF THE PRESIDENT'S REPORT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS A
FULL SET OF QUESTIONS.
HEARING NONE, WE ARE MOVING TO
THE PRESENTATION ON THE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
MINIMUM COMPENSATION PROPOSAL.
WE ARE SCHEDULED TO HAVE THIS
PRESENTATION UNTIL 10:05 A.M.
AT WHICH TIME WE WILL
TRANSITION INTO COUNCILMEMBER
REPORTS.
FOR LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND
THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND
TENDED OVER TO THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE.
TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF WALKING
US THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION.
I BELIEVE DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU'RE
GOING TO KICK US OFF.
WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND DO A
QUICK ROUND OF INTRODUCTIONS.
BY OUR GUESTS.
STARTING WITH DEPUTY MAYOR
RANGANATHAN, AND THEN WE WILL
GO DOWN THE LINE AND WE WILL
CIRCLE BACK TO THE DEPUTY
MAYOR TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS
PRESENTATION.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
I AM SHEFALI RANGANATHAN,
DEPUTY MAYOR, AND I WILL BE
KICKING OFF THIS PRESENTATION.
GOOD MORNING, KEREM LEVITAS . I
AM THE POLICY LEAD FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MICHAEL REICH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> RETRO?
>> RACHEL CICERO.
I'M IN THE INNOVATION TEAM.
I HELPED TO LEAVE THE DRIVER
OUTREACH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR, THE
FLOOR IS YOURS.
PLEASE WALK US THROUGH THIS
PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBERS.
I AM VERY PLEASED TO BE AT THE
TABLE.
THE VIRTUAL TABLE TO BEGIN THE
CONVERSATION ABOUT PART TWO OF
MAYOR DURKAN'S FAIR SHARE PLAN.
AS Y'ALL MAY RECALL LAST YEAR,
MAYOR DURKAN, IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH THE COUNSELOR, DEVELOPED
THE FAIR SHARE PLAN, WHICH HAD
TWO SPECIFIC COMPONENTS.
COMPONENT ONE WAS A PRO-RIDE
TESTS THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED BY A
UNANIMOUS VOTE BY COUNCIL LAST
YEAR.
ON EAST TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANY.
THEN, THE SECOND COMPONENT WAS
THE PROPOSAL WE ARE GOING TO BE
DISCUSSING TODAY.
WHICH IS TO DEVELOP A MINIMUM
COMPENSATION STANDARD FOR
DRIVERS WHO DRIVE FOR
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANIES.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO, BASICALLY, WE SPENT A
LITTLE OVER A YEAR WORKING WITH
, AND YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE
STUDY AUTHORS, DEVELOPING A
STUDY TO DEVELOP A PROPOSAL AND
LEGISLATION THAT WILL BE
TRANSMITTED TO COUNCIL IN THE
NEXT FEW WEEKS ON DEVELOPING A
MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD.
RACHEL WILL WALK YOU THROUGH
THE OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT WE
DID WITH THOUSANDS OF
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
DRIVERS WHO SHARED WITH US
THEIR EXPERIENCES, DIVING FOR
THESE COMPANIES.
AS WELL AS KIND OF, WE ALSO
WERE ABLE TO COLLECT A LARGE
AMOUNT OF DATA ON WAGES THAT
SORT OF TELL A STORY OF WHAT IT
IS TO WORK FOR THE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANIES, AND WHAT THAT MEANS
IN TERMS OF THE WAGE STANDARDS.
JUST IN TERMS OF A QUICK
CONTEXTUAL PLEASE, THE NATURE
OF WORK IS CHANGING.
REGULAR SHIFT JOBS ARE GIVING
WAY TO GET WORK, WE ARE SEEING
IT IN TERMS OF NOT JUST UBER
AND LYFT, BUT ALSO WITH THE
PANDEMIC, WE HAVE SEEN DELIVERY
FOR FOOD AND FOR GROCERIES AND
OTHER TYPES OF TASKS THAT ARE
BEING PERFORMED BY WORKERS WHO
ARE CLASSIFIED AS INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS.
THESE DRIVERS, EVEN THOUGH
THEIR WORK IS CONTROLLED IN
MANY WAYS BY THE COMPANY, DON'T
HAVE, THEY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO
MINIMUM WAGE STANDARDS THAT WE
HAVE FOR LARGE EMPLOYERS IN THE
CITY OF SEATTLE.
WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT MINIMUM
WAGE REQUIREMENT OF $16.35.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THROUGH BOTH
REAL-WORLD ANALYSIS OF DATA,
THAT WE WERE SHARED, THAT AFTER
MAINTENANCE, INSURANCE, AND
GAS, MANY WERE NOT EARNING
MINIMUM WAGE.
THEY DON'T RECEIVE STANDARD
WORKER PROTECTIONS LIKE WORKERS
COMPENSATION OR HEALTH
INSURANCE.
AS A RESULT, WHAT WE ARE SEEING
IS THAT THESE DRIVERS HAVE NO
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY WILL
MAKE WHEN THEY DRIVE FOR THESE
COMPANIES.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF COVID, BUT
WHAT WE ARE ALSO SEEING IS THE
UNCERTAINTY AROUND THEIR
ABILITY TO EARN A RELIABLE WAGE
HAS BEEN EXACERBATED BY COVID.
WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS
PROPOSAL IN DETAIL IN THE
SUBSEQUENT SLIDES.
THE LEGISLATION THAT WILL BE
SENT DOWN IN A COUPLE WEEKS
FROM NOW, WILL MANDATE A
MINIMUM COMPENSATION FLOOR.
BASICALLY WHAT THIS MEANS IS
THAT NO DRIVER WILL BE PAID
LESS THAN $16.39 PER HOUR, PLUS
REASONABLE EXPENSES.
AS A REMINDER, IN ORDER TO WORK
FOR THESE COMPANIES, THESE
DRIVERS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE
OBVIOUSLY A CAR THAT THEY ARE
ABLE TO USE TO PICK UP AND DROP
OFF PASSENGERS.
THESE CAR LEASE REALLY HAVE
EXCESSES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
CURRENTLY, THOSE EXPENSES ARE
NOT REIMBURSED TO AND LYFT.
ESSENTIALLY DRIVERS HAVE TO DIG
INTO THEIR OWN EARNINGS, IN
ORDER TO BEAR THESE EXPENSES.
THE SECOND COMPONENT IS THE
DRIVERS WILL BE PAID FOR ALL
THEIR TIME ON THE APP.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT
BASICALLY WHEN DRIVERS ARE
AROUND CIRCLING, SO WHEN YOU
PULL UP YOUR APP AND YOU SEE
THESE LITTLE CARS ON YOUR APP
MOVING AROUND.
THOSE ARE DRIVERS WAITING TO
ACCEPT A RIDE.
CURRENTLY THOSE DRIVERS ARE NOT
PAID FOR THAT TIME THAT THEY
SPEND CIRCLING.
FINALLY, THE EXPENSES COMPONENT,
WHICH WILL BE EMBEDDED INTO THE
ORDINANCE, WILL INCLUDE
EXPENSES THAT ARE INCURRED
WHILE THEY OPERATE THEIR CAR.
AS A REMINDER, THEY CAN'T WORK
WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO DRIVE,
AND SO OBVIOUSLY THOSE EXPENSES
THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT
REIMBURSED AND PER THIS
LEGISLATION WILL BE REQUIRED TO
BE REIMBURSED.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, I SEE
YOU DO HAVE YOUR HAND UP.
IF YOU CAN HOLD QUESTIONS UNTIL
THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
GO AHEAD DEPUTY MAYOR.
>> SO, JUST THINK ABOUT, EVEN
PRE-COVID, WE HAD HEARD FROM
DRIVERS AROUND UNCERTAINTY,
AROUND THE WAGE THEY MADE.
ALSO, CHALLENGES AROUND THEIR
CERTAINTY TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE
FOR THESE COMPANIES. AS COUNCIL
KNOWS, YOU ESTABLISHED A DRIVER
RESOLUTION CENTER AS PART OF
THE LEGISLATION LAST YEAR THAT
WILL HELP ADDRESSED ISSUES OF
UNFAIR REACTIVATION.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN COVID, AS
DEMAND HAS SIGNIFICANTLY
DROPPED, FOR EXAMPLE IN NEW
YORK, WRITES HAVE DROPPED BY AS
MUCH AS 84%.
SO, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT
THESE DRIVERS WHO ARE READY
HAVE UNCERTAINTY IN THEIR
ABILITY TO MAKE A LIVING WAGE,
HAVE SEEN THAT FURTHER ERODED
DURING COVID.
WE HAVE SEEN SIMILAR DECLINES
IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
AGAIN, THESE DRIVERS ARE THE
FRONT-LINE WORKERS.
THEY ARE OPERATING A RISK TO
THEMSELVES.
THEY ARE CURRENTLY HELPING TO
TRANSPORT ESSENTIAL WORKERS IN
MANY CASES TO THEIR JOBS.
THEY ARE IN SITUATIONS WHERE
THEY HAVE TO BE OUT ON THE ROAD
IN THEIR CARS IN ORDER TO DO
THEIR JOBS.
CURRENTLY THEY DON'T HAVE
ACCESS TO ANY PROTECTIONS THAT
OTHER WORKERS HAVE BEEN
AFFORDED DURING COVID-19,
INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO AFFORD
HEALTH INSURANCE, AND ESPECIALLY
BEING ABLE TO TAKE TIME OFF SO
THEY CAN CARE FOR THEMSELVES OR
A LOVED ONE.
CURRENTLY, THAT WOULD BE UNPAID
TIME OFF.
MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT,
GIVEN KIND OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES
WE HAVE SEEN WITH COVID, BUT AS
WELL AS JUST THE LONGER TERM
POLICY TO BE ABLE TO SET A WAGE
FLOOR.
SO THEY MAKE A LIVING WAGE.
WE WANT TO CREATE A POLICY THAT
WAS INFORMED BY RESEARCH, AND A
POLICY THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO
ADAPT OVER TIME, AND ALSO CREATE
SOME CONSENSUS TO HAVE THEIR
DRIVERS SPEND LESS TIME
CIRCLING AND MORE TIME WITH A
PASSENGER IN THE CAR.
LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
DRIVETIME.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE PHASES
OF DRIVETIME.
PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, AND PHASE
THREE.
PHASE ONE IS ESSENTIALLY THE
CIRCLING TIME.
THIS IS WHEN YOU OPEN UP YOUR
APP TO LOOK FOR AN UBER OR
LYFT.
YOU WILL SEE DRIVERS CIRCLING.
THAT TIME IS CALLED P ONE TIME.
THEY ARE LOGGED INTO THE
PLATFORM.
THEY ARE AWAITING A PASSENGER.
CURRENTLY DRIVERS ARE NOT PAID
FOR ANY OF THAT TIME.
THE SECOND TIME, OR SECOND
PHASE IS P2.
THIS IS THE DISPATCH TIME.
BASICALLY ONCE YOU REQUEST A
TIME, AND A DRIVER ACCEPTS THAT
TRIP, AND THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY
TO COME PICK YOU UP, THAT TIME
IS KNOWN AS P2 TIME.
IN VERY FEW CASES, AND RARE
EXCEPTIONS, DRIVERS ARE NOT
COMPENSATED FOR THIS TIME.
DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE
DRIVING TO PICK UP A PASSENGER,
THAT TIME IS NOT PAID FOR BY
THE COMPANIES.
THE ONLY RARE EXCEPTION IS IF A
COMPANY CANCELS A TRIP, THERE
ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE THE
DRIVER IS COMPENSATED FOR THAT
TIME.
THE FINAL TIME IS THE P3 TIME.
THIS IS WHEN A PASSENGER IS IN
THE CAR, THEY ARE PICKED UP
FROM THEIR LOCATION, AND
DROPPED OFF AT THEIR
DESTINATION.
THIS IS THE P3 TIME.
THIS IS THE TIME THAT THE
CURRENT COMPENSATION STRUCTURE
THAT IS EMPLOYED BY UBER AND
LYFT COMPENSATE DRIVERS FOR
THIS TIME.
NOW, I'M GOING TO HANDED OVER TO
KEREM LEVITAS WITH THE OFFICE
OF LABOR STANDARDS, WHO IS
GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS
POLICY WAS DEVELOPED.
INCLUDING THE RESEARCH AND THE
STUDY THAT WAS DEVELOPED TO
HELP INFORM THE POLICY THAT WE
WILL BE GIVING YOU IN THE NEXT
FEW WEEKS.
THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR.
>> JUST ONE ADDITIONAL POINT I
WANTED TO ADD.
IN ADDITION TO UNDERSTANDING
THE PHASES OF TIME, IT'S
IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT
A DRIVER CANNOT BE IN P3
TRANSPORTING A PASSENGER , SORT
OF THE SIDE OF THE BUSINESS
THAT IS MOST VISIBLE, THEY
CANNOT DO THAT WORK WITHOUT
FIRST BEING IN P1 AND P2.
IT IS A NECESSARY COMPONENT
SIMPLY TO DO THE JOB AND
PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT MANY
FOLKS IN SEATTLE AND AROUND THE
COUNTRY ENJOY.
THAT'S REALLY WAY WE WANTED TO
CENTER PROVIDING COMPENSATION
FOR ALL THREE PHASES OF WORK IN
THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT.
SIMILARLY, THE COMPANIES
TEMSELVES, BOTH COMPETE AND
PROVIDE THEIR SERVICE TO
CUSTOMERS.
BY ENSURING THAT DRIVERS ARE
AVAILABLE, AND ARE ABLE TO
RESPOND TO RIDES.
THAT IS SORT OF A CENTRAL
COMPONENT OF THEIR BUSINESS AND
HOW THEY PROVIDE SERVICE TO
CUSTOMERS.
WE ALSO FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT
TO ENSURE THAT TIME WAS
COMPENSATED FULLY.
WITH THAT SAID, LET ME SEE IF I
CAN SWITCH SLIDES AND TALK AT
THE SAME TIME.
I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE
BACKGROUND ON THE WORK WE DID.
AS COUNCILMEMBERS WILL
REMEMBER, COUNCIL PASSED AN
ORDINANCE LAST YEAR THAT SET UP
THIS STUDY THAT YOU WILL HEAR
ABOUT TODAY.
IT REQUIRED THAT THE CITY
CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT STUDY.
TO PROPOSE A FAIR PAY STANDARD,
THAT INCLUDES COMPENSATION FOR
EXPENSES, AND PAYS DRIVERS FOR
ALL THEIR TIME.
THE WAY THAT WE WENT ABOUT THAT
WORK, WAS WE RETAINED TWO
OUTSIDE EXPERTS.
PROFESSOR MICHAEL REICH, AND
ANOTHER PROFESSOR.
PROFESSOR REICH IS AT UC
BERKELEY.
THEY WILL SAY MORE ABOUT HOW
THEY CONDUCTED THEIR WORK IN
JUST A LITTLE BIT.
WE ALSO TOOK ANOTHER STEP.
WE KNEW THAT IN ADDITION TO THE
ACADEMIC AND SCIENTIFIC ASPECT,
TO LOOKING AT THIS WORK, IT WAS
IMPORTANT TO REACH OUT TO
DRIVERS AND TALK TO THEM
DIRECTLY.
SO THAT THEIR DIRECT EXPERIENCE
AND PERSPECTIVE WAS INCLUDED ON
THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO RACHEL CICERO WILL SAY
MORE ON THAT.
TWO OF THE JUST BASELINE LEVELS
OF THINGS I WANT TO LAY OUT, IS
THE PAY STANDARD YOU WILL HEAR
PROPOSED TODAY IS A FLOOR.
IT IS A MINIMUM GUARANTEE SO
THAT DRIVERS DON'T FALL BELOW A
CERTAIN LEVEL.
DRIVERS CAN ALWAYS EARN MORE.
THAT IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE
PAY STANDARD I BELIEVE, AND OUR
OFFICE BELIEVES, SORT OF
THREADS THE NEED OF THE
MAINTAINING DRIVER FLEXIBILITY.
IT DOES NOT MANDATE EMPLOYMENT
STATUS FOR DRIVERS OF YOU HAVE
SEEN IN SOME JURISDICTIONS.
THE TNC'S CAN CONTINUE TO
CLASSIFY THEIR DRIVERS AS THEY
WISH.
THERE IS NO RESTRICTION ON THE
NUMBER OF DRIVERS THAT CAN
BECOME A TNC DRIVER , OR ON
THEIR WORK HOURS.
I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF LEVEL
SET THOSE FOUR PRINCIPLES.
WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO TURN
IT OVER TO PROFESSOR REICH TO
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HE AND
THE OTHER PROFESSOR ENGAGED.
>> YES, THANK YOU KEREM.
IT'S AN HONOR TO ADDRESS YOU
ALL.
OUR STUDY DREW ON FOUR
DIFFERENT DATA SETS.
THEY ARE LISTED IN THE SLIDES.
I'LL GO OVER THEM IN A
DIFFERENT ORDER.
FIRST OF ALL, THE CITY DATA,
THAT GIVE US A PICTURE OF THE
NUMBER OF DRIVERS, THE NUMBER
OF TRIPS.
WE DREW FROM THE CENSUS BUREAU,
THE U.S. CENSUS BUREAU WHICH
WAS ENOUGH OF A SAMPLE IN
SEATTLE.
THAT IDENTIFIED DRIVERS LOOKING
AT PRIMARY OCCUPATION.
WE CONDUCTED A SURVEY AND WE GOT
A VERY HIGH RESPONSE RATE.
THE SURVEY WENT OUT TO ALL THE
DRIVERS IN THE CITY'S DATABASE.
WE ASKED DEMOCRATIC QUESTIONS,
WHAT KIND OF VEHICLES THEY HAD.
EXPENSE QUESTIONS.
HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN
DRIVERS.
AND THE EARNINGS THEY GOT FROM
THEIR APPS.
I SHOULD MENTION THAT THEIR
HOURS WORKED AND EARNINGS DATA
DON'T COME FROM THEIR MEMORY,
BUT ACTUALLY CONSULTING THE
COMPANY'S APP.
THESE WERE ALL FOR REFERENCE IN
EARLY DECEMBER OF 2019.
OBVIOUSLY PRE-COVID.
WE ALSO HAD SOME LIMITED DATA
FROM THE TNC'S, A LITTLE BIT
MORE FROM UBER.
THEY WERE NOT VERY RESPONSIVE
TO THE REQUEST FOR DATA.
WHAT WE FOUND VERY BRIEFLY, THE
DRIVERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE
PAID WITH A CREDIT CARD.
87% OR BELOW THE FEDERAL
POVERTY LEVEL.
OVER HALF ARE UNDER MEDICAID OR
ARE UNINSURED.
THE OTHER GROUP IS GETTING
INSURANCE MAINLY THROUGH
SPOUSES.
HALF OF THE DRIVERS WORK FOR
BOTH COMPANIES, AND ABOUT HALF
OF BEEN DRIVING FOR OVER TWO
YEARS, SO THEY ARE VERY
ATTACHED TO THIS JOB.
ONE THIRD OF THE DRIVERS WORK
32 HOURS OR MORE.
THOSE DRIVERS PROVIDE 55% OF
THE TIPS.
ALTHOUGH THERE IS A COMMON
PICTURE THAT MOST OF THE
DRIVERS ARE CASUAL DRIVERS,
THEY ARE DOING THIS AS A SIDE
HUSTLE.
IN FACT, MOST OF THE WORK IS
BEING DONE BY PEOPLE WHO EITHER
WORK FULL-TIME, 32 HOURS OR
MORE, OR INTERMEDIATE TIME, LIKE
20 TO 32 HOURS.
A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE DRIVERS
RELY ON DRIVING AS A SOLE
SOURCE OF INCOME.
IT IS NOT JUST A SIDE HUSTLE.
83% OF THE FULL-TIME DRIVERS,
75% INTERMEDIATE, HAVE
PURCHASED THE VEHICLE PRIMARILY
TO DRIVE FOR THE COMPANIES.
THAT PROVIDES YOU A PICTURE, I
THINK IT IS A MORE ROUNDED
PICTURE THEM SOME OF THE OTHER
PUBLICITY ABOUT THE DRIVERS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO, AS THE DEPUTY MAYOR
MENTIONED, IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE
EXPENSES THE DRIVERS HAD.
THEY'RE NOT FULLY PAID AND
REIMBURSED FOR THOSE EXPENSES
NOW.
WE BROKE DOWN THE EXPENSES INTO
THE CATEGORIES YOU SEE ON THE
SLIDE.
THE ACQUISITION COSTS, THE
OPERATING COSTS, LICENSING AND
REGISTRATION, PAYROLL TAXES
THAT HAVE TO BE PAID BY
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS, AND WE
WENT INTO SOME DETAIL, WHICH IS
I THINK IT IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
NOT JUST FUEL, BUT INSURANCE,
HAVING A CELL PHONE, CLEANING
THE VEHICLE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WE PROVIDED SMALL BUT
MEANINGFUL ALLOWANCES FOR EACH
OF THOSE.
WE DETERMINED THAT THE AVERAGE
EXPENSES ARE $11.80 PER HOUR.
THAT IS BASED ON A FULL-TIME
DRIVER AND THESE EXPENSES ARE
CALCULATED WITH FULL-TIME
DRIVERS, OR RATHER FOR DRIVERS
WHO DRIVE 35,000 MILES PER YEAR
, WHICH IS REALLY A FULL-TIME
DRIVER.
THEN, WE USE THAT HOURLY RATE
AS ESTIMATED EXPENSES FOR PART-
TIME AND CASUAL DRIVERS AS WELL.
THE SAME FOR REAL COSTS, WEAR
AND TEAR COSTS ON THEIR
VEHICLES, NOT JUST FUEL COSTS.
EVEN IF THEY ARE DRIVING 10
HOURS A WEEK.
THE EARNINGS ARE MEASURED
RELATIVE TO DRIVER WORKING TIME.
NOT JUST THE P3 TIME.
OUR RESULT IS THAT DRIVERS GROSS
AND AVERAGE OF $21.53 PER HOUR
BEFORE EXPENSES.
THAT IS TO SAY THAT IS THEIR
GROSS PAY.
IF YOU TAKE OUT THE $11.80 OF
THE AVERAGE EXPENSES, IT GETS A
LITTLE BIT BELOW $10 AS THEIR
NET PAY.
WELL BELOW THE CITY'S MINIMUM
WAGE STANDARD.
OF COURSE, THERE ARE LOTS OF
INEQUALITIES WITHIN THE DRIVER
WORKFORCE.
SOME DRIVERS GET PAID MORE THAN
AVERAGE, SOME GET PAID LESS
THAN AVERAGE, AND WE FIND THAT
PART-TIME DRIVERS IN PARTICULAR
GET PAID LESS THAN AVERAGE PER
HOUR.
OKAY.
DOES THAT GO BACK TO --
>> RACHEL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
TAKE OVER TO TALK ABOUT
OUTREACH.
>> THANK YOU.
AS WAS MENTIONED, IN ADDITION
TO THE ECONOMIC SURVEY, WE ALSO
WANTED TO ENSURE WE HEARD
DIRECTLY FROM DRIVERS
THEMSELVES.
AND THAT OUR ENGAGEMENT
STRATEGIES WERE WHAT WE DEEMED
TO BE DRIVER CENTERED.
AS WE KNOW, TIME NOT DRIVING
EQUALS MONEY NOT BEING MADE FOR
THESE DRIVERS.
THEREFORE, WE WANTED TO ENSURE
WE CREATED EQUITABLE ACCESS TO
OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE WITH US
DURING THIS RESEARCH.
THE FIVE METHODS YOU SEE HERE
ARE FOCUSED ON GATHERING
QUALITATIVE DATA TO CENTER
DRIVER VOICE, AND GIVE CONTEXT
OR MEANING TO THE MORE
NUMERICAL, OR QUANTITATIVE DATA
, CAPTURED IN THE ECONOMIC
SURVEY.
THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS
INTERCEPT INTERVIEWS, WHICH
ALLOWED US TO MEET DRIVERS
WHERE THEY ARE.
HOW WE DID THIS WAS WE ACTUALLY
UTILIZED THE COMMUNITY LIAISON
PROGRAM, THROUGH THE CITY'S
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
COMMUNITY LIAISONS COULD MEET
DRIVERS IN LANGUAGE.
THESE INTERVIEWS WERE CONDUCTED
IN EIGHT LANGUAGES THAT YOU SEE
HERE.
WE ALSO CONDUCTED ROUNDTABLE
DISCUSSIONS, WITH PROVIDED
STAKEHOLDER, OR DRIVER
STAKEHOLDER ORGANIZATIONS, TO
ORGANIZE THEIR OWN DRIVERS, SO
THEY COULD SHARE THEIR OWN
UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES OF THE
ORGANIZATION.
NEXT, WE DO FOCUS GROUPS, WHICH
ENABLED US TO SPEAK TO MORE
DRIVERS THAT ONCE, WITH THE
ABILITY TO FOLLOW A LINE OF
DISCUSSION THROUGH A NEUTRAL
FACILITATOR.
ALSO, A TELEPHONE TOWN HALL,
WITH AN EMPHASIS ON THE
TELEPHONE, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO
AGAIN, DID NOT WANT TO DISRUPT
DRIVERS, AND WANTED THEM TO
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE
WITH US, EVEN IF THEY WERE
MAKING THE A BREAK OR DONE FOR
THE DAY.
LASTLY, WE DID AN ONLINE
SURVEY, WHICH WAS REALLY JUST
TO CAST A LARGER NET TOWARD THE
END OF OUR OUTREACH TO BOTH
VALIDATE OR INVALIDATE THINGS
THAT WE HAD HEARD THROUGH OTHER
METHODS.
I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAD
HEARD OVER 10,000 RESPONSES.
THOUGH THESE ARE NOT UNIQUE,
BECAUSE DRIVERS HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN
MORE THAN ONE METHOD, OUT OF
THE 33,000 DRIVERS, WE THINK
THAT WAS A PRETTY GREAT TARGET
FOR THIS OUTREACH.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO, THE KEY FINDINGS THAT WE
HEARD THROUGHOUT THE OUTREACH,
O THE THEMES THAT EMERGED I
RESPONSES TO ALL METHODS, THE
FIRST WE HEARD WAS THAT
OVERWHELMINGLY, DRIVERS NEED
HIGHER, FAIRER PAY.
DRIVERS EXPRESS THE ABILITY TO
EARN GREATER MORE CONSISTENT
PAY AS BEING HIGHLY DESIRABLE.
FACTORS WHICH WE SPOKE TO A
LITTLE BIT, AND THE ECONOMIC
úSURVEY AS WELL, THAT CONTRIBUT
TO THIS INADEQUACY, ARE THE
HIGH DRIVING COST EXPENSES.
UNCOMPENSATED TRAVEL TIMES TO
AND FROM DRIVES, AS WE HAVE
SPOKEN TO, IN THE DIFFERENT
PHASES OF DRIVING TIME.
PERSONAL FINANCIAL PRESSURES,
SUCH AS HOUSING COSTS ARE
PERSONAL HEALTH INSURANCE ALSO
CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
SECOND, WE HEARD DRIVER PAY IS
INCONSISTENT AND UNPREDICTABLE.
SO, DRIVERS'S ABILITY TO
OPERATE MORE FLEXIBLY AS
PERCEIVED, IS SEVERELY HINDERED
BY THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IS
FROM TNC'S.
AS A RESULT, DRIVERS ARE UNABLE
TO DO THINGS LIKE ANTICIPATE
EARNINGS IN ADVANCE, UNDERSTAND
THE BREAKDOWN OF A FAIR FOR ANY
GIVEN RIDE, HAVE A SAY IN FAIR
OR COMMISSION STRUCTURES, TAKEN
FROM THE TNC'S, AND ALSO
UNDERSTANDINGS BEHIND THE
REASONINGS FOR OFTEN
UNWARRANTED THE ACTIVATIONS.
LASTLY, WE HEARD THAT DRIVERS
REALLY NEEDED SAFETY NETS.
DUE TO HIGH RISK OF BEING
DEACTIVATED FROM THE PLATFORM,
OFTEN SUDDENLY, AND THE RISK OF
INJURY FROM BEING ON THE ROAD
MORE OFTEN, AND SOMETIMES IN
UNSAFE CONDITIONS, DRIVERS
DESIRE SOME LEVEL OF PROTECTION
FOR THOSE TIMES WHEN THEY ARE
UNABLE TO DRIVE OR ENFORCE
UNEMPLOYMENT.
DRIVERS SPOKE TO BENEFITS SUCH
AS PAID SICK LEAVE,
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, OR
WORKERS COMPENSATION, AS THEY
THOUGHT THOSE WOULD HELP
GUARANTEE SOME ACCESS TO INCOME
DURING TIMES THEY CANNOT WORK.
THE LEGISLATION MAY NOT ADDRESS
THESE EXACT BENEFITS, THE HOPE
IS THAT THE INCREASE IN PAY
STANDARD, WOULD HELP TO MAKE
BUILDING A SAFETY NET SUCH AS
THIS A MORE VIABLE OPTION.
THANK YOU.
>> MICHAEL, DO YOU WANT TO SAY
A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT
COMPONENTS OF THE PAY STANDARD?
OR SHOULD I?
>> I THINK I ALREADY COVERED
MOST OF THAT.
LET'S MOVE ON.
>> I'LL JUST INTRODUCE HOW THE
PROPOSER IS STRUCTURED.
THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS TO HOW
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL WOULD
GUARANTEE A MINIMUM PAY SCALE,
A MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD
FOR DRIVERS.
ONE IS A TIME COMPONENT.
A PERMANENT REQUIREMENT THE
DRIVERS MUST BE PAID ON THEIR
TRIPS.
AND A MILEAGE COMPONENT.
S, PER MILE COMPONENT.
THE NUMBER YOU WILL SEE ON THE
NEXT SCREEN, IS BASED ON THE
FACTORS YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE.
THE TIME IS SIMPLY THE SEATTLE
SCHEDULE ONE MINIMUM WAGE.
THE LARGE EMPLOYER MINIMUM WAGE.
THE MILEAGE COMPONENTS ARE ALL
OF THE ELEMENTS THAT PROFESSOR
REICH ANALYZED AND DEVELOPED A
PER MILE COST NUMBER FOUR.
EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE
SCREEN, THE COST OF ACQUIRING
AND FINANCING A VEHICLE, GAS,
MAINTENANCE, AND ONE THING I
WANT TO CALL OUT IN PARTICULAR,
IT DOES INCLUDE A COMPONENT FOR
HEALTH INSURANCE.
THE REPORT ALSO HAS A NUMBER OF
ADDITIONAL COST ELEMENTS, WHICH
COUNCIL ASKED US TO ELIMINATE .
THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR COUNCIL TO
LOOK AT IN THEIR OWN POLICY
PROCESS.
THOSE ADDITIONAL ITEMS ARE NOT
IN THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL, BUT
THEY ARE THEREFORE NOW.
SO.
LET ME MOVE ON TO HOW THE
MINIMUM PAY STANDARD IS
STRUCTURED.
AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS A TIME
AND MILEAGE COMPONENT.
IT REQUIRES A PER MINUTE RATE OF
0.56 CENTS.
AND A PER MILE RATE OF $1.17.
THESE REQUIREMENTS ONLY APPLY TO
TIME AND MILES TRAVELED DURING
P3, WHEN A DRIVER HAS A
PASSENGER IN THE CAR.
WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON
THE FRONT END SAYING HOW
IMPORTANT IT WAS TO PAY DRIVERS
FOR ALL OF THEIR TIME.
SO, THE P3 NUMBER IS ACTUALLY
INCREASED BY THE PERCENTAGE OF
TIME WHEN A DRIVER DOES NOT
HAVE A PASSENGER IN THE CAR.
TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE PAID FOR
ALL OF THEIR TIME.
SO, THE DIVERS EXPLAINED THIS A
LITTLE BIT MORE.
IF YOU TAKE THE MINIMUM WAGE
RATE OF $16.39 AND DIVIDED BY
60 TO GET A PERMANENT RATE.
IT IS NOT $.56.
IT IS ACTUALLY $.27.
THE PAY STANDARD THAT INCREASE
THAT AMOUNT, WOULD COVER THE
AMOUNT OF TIME THEY DON'T HAVE
A PASSENGER.
IT'S ROUGHLY A FACTOR OF TWO TO
ENSURE THEY ARE PAID FOR ALL OF
THEIR TIME.
THE SAME PRINCIPLE APPLIES FOR
THE MILEAGE NUMBER.
WITH SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
THERE IS A FEW REASONS WE DO IT
THAT WAY, BUT THE PRIMARY ONE
IS THAT DRIVERS ARE CURRENTLY
PAID ONLY FOR P3.
WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN A SIMILAR
PAY STRUCTURE SO AS TO AVOID
CONFUSION FOR DRIVERS.
WE WOULD HOPE IT WOULD ALSO BE
A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THE
TNC'S TO IMPLEMENT AS WELL.
THAT'S THE CORE COMPONENTS OF
HOW THEY SHOULD BE STRUCTURD
UNDER THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL.
I WANT TO SPEND JUST A MINUTE
TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS
IN REAL-WORLD TERMS.
THIS CHART HAS A NUMBER OF
TRIPS, TYPICAL TRIPS THAT WE
MODELED.
IT INDICATES THE CURRENT PAY
DRIVERS RECEIVED, AND WHAT THEY
SHOULD RECEIVE FOR THAT SAME
TRIP UNDER THE PROPOSED MINIMUM
COMPENSATION STANDARD.
JUST ONE NUANCE, IS THAT
CURRENT PAY, DRIVERS ACTUALLY
MAKE A RANGE DEPENDING ON THEIR
TENURE WITH THE COMPANY.
NEWER DRIVERS MAKE LESS, AND
LEGACY DRIVERS MAKE A LITTLE
BIT MORE.
WE USED THE LEGACY NUMBERS FOR
THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE PAY IN
THIS CHART.
I'M NOT GOING TO RUN THROUGH
EVERY SCENARIO HERE, JUST THE
TOP TWO.
CAPITOL HILL TO DOWNTOWN, WE
MONITORED DURING PRE-COVERED
BRUSH ARE.
12 MINUTES AT 1.4 MILES.
CURRENTLY THEY MAKE ABOUT $5.18.
THAT COULD GO UP TO ABOUT $8.36.
DOWNTOWN TO THE AIRPORT, THAT
IS DONE JUST THAT IN EVERY TIME.
25 MINUTES, 14.8 MILES.
CURRENT PAY IS ABOUT $25.59.
IT SHOULD GO UP TO $31.31.
TWO MORE TIPS ALSO MODELED AT
RUSH-HOUR TIMES, INTRA-DOWNTOWN,
AND THEN -- SO, WITH THAT,
MICHAEL I THINK YOU WERE GOING
TO SAY A COUPLE MORE WORDS
ABOUT THE IMPACT ON DRIVER PAY.
MORE GENERALLY.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
>> YES.
>> VERY QUICKLY, BECAUSE I KNOW
WE ARE SHORT ON TIME.
WE ESTIMATE THAT WITH THIS PAY
STANDARD, DRIVER GROSS PAY WILL
INCREASE 30%.
ABOUT $21.50 PER HOUR, TO
$28.20 PER HOUR.
THAT MEANS THAT NET PAY, AFTER
EXPENSES, WILL ACTUALLY GO UP
60%.
WE CALCULATED THE GROSS PAY
BECAUSE THAT IS THE -- REFLECTS
THE INCREASED COST OF
COMPANIES.
WE WANTED TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT
WOULD AFFECT THEIR BUSINESS.
BEFORE I TURN TO THAT, LET ME
SAY THAT 84% OF THE DRIVERS
WILL RECEIVE PAY INCREASES.
THAT IS TO SAY THE 16% WERE
ALREADY MAKING OVER THIS
STANDARD.
A VERY, VERY LARGE MAJORITY
WOULD SEE INCREASES.
THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE
EFFECT ON THE INDUSTRY?
THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE
HERE IS THAT IF THE COMPANIES
TAKE ABOUT 30% OFF THE TOP, FOR
THEIR COMMISSION, THIS IS A
VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE FOR MULTI
PLATFORM TECHNOLOGIES.
IT COULD EASILY GO DOWN TO 15%,
AS IT ALREADY HAS FOR DELIVERY
COMPANIES IN SEATTLE AND NEW
YORK CITY, LOS ANGELES, SAN
FRANCISCO.
THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THIS
ON THEIR OWN.
IF THEY ARE MANDATED TO PAY
HIGHER PAY, THEY MIGHT DECIDE
IT'S BETTER TO REDUCE THEIR
EXCESSIVE COMPENSATION,
COMMISSION LEVELS.
OR RATHER A COMMISSION
DECREASED TO 15% WOULD MEAN THAT
PASSENGER FARES WOULD GO UP
ABOUT 5%.
THAT WOULD HAVE MAYBE 1% TO 2%
AT MOST, EFFECT ON DEMAND FOR
RIDES.
OF COURSE THIS WAS ALL PRE-
COVID FIGURES.
IT WOULD REALLY NOT EFFECT
DEMAND FOR DRIVES, AND THE
DRIVERS WOULD STILL BE BETTER
OFF.
WE ESTIMATE THEIR OVERALL PAY
WOULD GO UP ABOUT $100 MILLION
FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
THEN, JUST TO FINISH, THERE IS
ANOTHER STUDY THAT A LOT OF YOU
HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT WAS
COMMISSIONED BY THE TNC'S.
I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE NOT THE
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OURS AND
THEIRS, BUT THE SIMILARITIES.
THOSE STUDIES INDICATE THAT A
LOT OF DRIVERS ARE BEING PAID
LESS THAN THE PAY STANDARD, SO
THE PAY STANDARD IS NECESSARY.
THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT
CONCLUSION IN THE FINDINGS OF
BOTH STUDIES.
ALSO, THE TNC'S STUDY FINDS IT
DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IN EACH
OF THE STUDIES WHETHER YOU
COUNT THE FULL-TIME DRIVERS, A
LITTLE BIT MORE, OR THE PART-
TIME DRIVERS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE FIND THE PART-TIME DRIVERS
ARE PAID LESS THAN FULL-TIME
DRIVERS.
SO, THE TNC'S, ARE TRYING TO
CLAIM THAT WE ARE SPENDING TOO
MUCH EMPHASIS ON THE FULL-TIME
DRIVERS.
IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY
IMPACT ON WHAT THE OVERALL
LEVEL OF DRIVER PAY IS.
IF WE HAD WAITED THE PART-TIME
DRIVERS MORE, THEY WOULD
ACTUALLY FIND LOWER LEVELS OF
PAY.
THAT'S IT.
>> OKAY, I KNOW WE ARE VERY
SHORT ON TIME.
I'LL JUST MAKE THE LAST SLIDE
DEBRIS THESE ARE JUST SOME
ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS THAT WE
WILL INCLUDE IN THE PROPOSED
LEGISLATION.
PROTECTION FOR TIPS, NO TIP
CREDIT PERMITTED FOR THE
MINIMUM COMPENSATION
REQUIREMENTS.
DETAILED TRANSPARENCY
PROVISIONS.
DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS WILL
KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING.
A PROPOSED EFFECTIVE DATE OF
JANUARY 1st, 2021.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
SO THERE IS TIME FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOLKS FOR
THAT THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
COLLEAGUES, WE ARE SHORT THREE
COUNCILMEMBERS THIS MORNING.
I THINK THAT GIVES US A LITTLE
BIT OF CUSHION TO ALLOW TIME
FOR SOME QUESTIONS.
FOR THOSE COUNCILMEMBERS WHO
ARE WITH US THIS MORNING THAT
MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE
RAISE YOUR HAND OR SEND ME A
MESSAGE TO LET ME KNOW IF YOU
HAVE A QUESTION.
I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS HAD A QUESTION.
HE IS IN THE QUEUE.
WE WILL START OUT WITH
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, AND THEN
COLLEAGUES, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, PLEASE
LET ME KNOW.
I SEE COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS HAS
HIS HAND UP NOW AS WELL.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ.
THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR,
RANGANATHAN, KEREM, DR. REICH,
RACHEL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
HARD WORK.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE
TRANSMITTING THIS LEGISLATION
THIS MONTH.
AND THAT COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA
AND THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE IS
WORKING TO FIND SOME DATES IN
SEPTEMBER, WITH THE GOAL OF
PASSING THIS LEGISLATION BEFORE
THE 2021 BUDGET SESSION, IS
THAT STILL CORRECT?
>> THAT'S THE PLAN.
SPIN THE GREAT, THANK YOU.
ON SLIDE FOUR, I DON'T THINK WE
NECESSARILY NEED TO GO BACK.
I WAS TAKING NOTES AS WE GO
THROUGH.
SLIDE FOUR MENTIONED ABOUT,
THERE WE GO, THANK YOU, KEREM.
EXACTLY.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MORE
DRIVERS ARE PAYING FOR COVID
RELATED COSTS AT THIS POINT?
OR, IS THIS A VARIABLE THAT WE
ARE STILL INVESTIGATING?
>> WE DON'T.
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME
SUPPORT FROM THE TNC'S RELATED
TO THIS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE
ARE DRIVERS WHO ARE DOING ABOVE
AND BEYOND TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES AND TO PROTECT
PASSENGERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF PROFESSOR REICH
HAS ANY INSIGHT, OR IF KEREM
HAS ANYTHING TO ADD.
WE HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY TRACKED
THOSE NUMBERS IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE.
>> THE EXPENSE ANALYSIS WAS ALL
PRE-COVID.
WE HAVE DONE DRIVER ENGAGEMENT
AFTER THE RELEASE OF THE STUDY,
AND JUST ANECDOTALLY, DRIVERS
HAVE SAID I'M SPENDING AN
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT ON HAND
SANITIZER AND GLOVES AND WIPING
DOWN THE SURFACES THAT SORT OF
THING.
THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COSTS.
I CAN'T ANSWER AS TO A
QUANTIFIED NUMBER.
>> I APPRECIATE BOTH OF THOSE
ANSWERS, AND I UNDERSTAND THIS
CAN BE A COMPLEX PIECE OF
POLICY THAT WE ARE NAVIGATING
DURING UNCERTAIN TIMES.
DO YOU KNOW IF WE BE ABLE TO
HAVE A BALLPARK FIGURE BY
SEPTEMBER?
IS THIS SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE
TO CONTINUE TO ADJUST AND TAKE
BACK?
>> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO DO ANOTHER RESEARCH
EFFORT THAT WOULD GIVE US A
REALLY CLEAR NUMBER, BUT I
THINK WE COULD DO INDIVIDUAL
DRIVER ENGAGEMENT TO TRY TO GET
JUST SORT OF INDIVIDUAL DRIVER
EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.
AND RELAY THAT TO
COUNCILMEMBERS.
THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS LEADS RIGHT INTO MY ONLY
OTHER QUESTION WHICH IS ON
SLIDES NINE AND 10.
SPEAKING TO THE STAKEHOLDER
THAT YOU HAVE DONE AFTER YOUR
PROPOSAL WAS DEVELOPED, COULD
YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT --
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, WAS
THIS OUTREACH DONE BEFORE THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPOSAL, OR
AFTER, BOTH, AND WILL THERE BE
ANY OUTREACH DONE BETWEEN NOW
AND END OF SEPTEMBER?
>> RACHEL, DO YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THE OUTREACH THAT WAS
DONE PRIOR?
I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THE NEXT
PIECE.
>> MOST OF THE ENGAGEMENTS HAVE
BEEN DECEMBER THROUGH MARCH.
DECEMBER OF 2019 THROUGH MARCH
OF THIS YEAR.
IT DID GO TO SPEAKING TO THE
POLICY IF THAT WAS YOUR
QUESTION.
DO YOU MIND CLARIFYING FOR ME?
>> SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION
THERE.
I OFTENTIMES FOUND THAT
OUTREACH IS DONE BEFORE A
POLICY IS DEVELOPED, AND
SOMETIMES IT ISN'T DONE ONCE A
POLICY IS DEVELOPED CIRCLING
BACK.
I WAS JUST HOPING TO CLARIFY
THAT ONCE, I UNDERSTAND THERE
WAS INITIAL OUTREACH, AND WAS
THAT OUTREACH THEN DONE A
SECOND TIME WAS THE POLICY
DRAFT WAS COMPLETED?
>> YEAH, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT
UNLESS DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU WANT
TO SAY SOMETHING.
WE HAVE DONE A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF ENGAGEMENT.
WE HAVE CIRCLED BACK WITH BOTH
OF THE TWO LARGEST COMPANIES,
AND THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY
DRIVER GROUPS IN SEATTLE.
WE HAVE ENGAGED EACH OF THEM ON
THE CONTOURS OF THE POLICY
PROPOSAL.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WILL
CONTINUE ON THE TECHNICAL
ASPECTS GOING FORWARD AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD
WORK ON THIS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
JUST A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UPS ON
THAT BEFORE I HANDED OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS FOR
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS ASKED, OR
A LINE OF QUESTIONING THAT HE
HAD, WAS WITH REGARDS TO COVID-
19 RELATED EXPENSES,
SPECIFICALLY TO PPE THAT IS NOW
SORT OF INHERENT TO THE
BUSINESS MODEL OF UBER AND LYFT
AND OTHER RIGHTS OR COMPANIES.
I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR IN MY
UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT'S
GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE
MIRRORS PROPOSAL AND WHAT IS
NOT GOING TO BE INCLUDED.
BASED ON YOUR ANSWER, IT SOUNDS
LIKE COVID-19 EXPENSES RELATED
TO PPE, AND DEALING WITH THE
REALITIES OF BEING IN A SHARED
SPACE WITH OTHER FOLKS OUTSIDE
OF YOUR HOUSEHOLD, THAT THOSE
EXPENSES ARE NOT GOING TO BE
INCLUDED AS PART OF THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSAL AS IT IS CURRENTLY
STRUCTURED AND WILL BE
TRANSMITTED TO THE CITY
COUNCIL, WITHOUT THAT COMPONENT.
I'M NOT DESCRIBING ANY SORT OF
ILL INTENT, I JUST WANT TO GET
CLEAR THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE
IN THERE.
I HAVE SORT OF A LINE OF
ANOTHER QUESTION, ANOTHER
FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IF IT ISN'T
GOING TO BE INCLUDED.
>> I THINK YOUR POINT IS
EXACTLY.
IT IS FAIR.
THE WORK THAT HAPPENED PRE-
COVID.
WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD ESTIMATOR
OF PER MILE COSTS ON PPE.
AS I ALLUDED EARLIER, IT ALSO
VARIES AMONGST THE DRIVERS
THEMSELVES.
THERE ARE DRIVERS WHO ARE
REALLY TAKING A LOT OF
ADDITIONAL PRECAUTIONS TO
PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR
PASSENGERS.
SO, I THINK THAT IS FAIR.
WE TRIED TO CAPTURE, THERE IS A
COMPONENT ON THAT EXPENSE SIDE
AROUND CLEANING.
AGAIN, THAT IS THE GENERAL
CLEANING OF THE VEHICLE.
SPIN I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> THE REASON IT IS NOT
INCLUDED IS BECAUSE THERE
WASN'T SUFFICIENT TIME TO DO
THE RESEARCH.
OBVIOUSLY THE RESEARCH PERIOD
AS DESCRIBED BY RACHEL, PREDATED
BY MANY MONTHS, THE REALITIES
OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE ARE CLEAR AS WE ARE
EVALUATING YOUR PROPOSAL, THAT
WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS NOT
INCLUDED, AND IT CAN BE ONE OF
THOSE THAT IS NOT INCLUDED, AND
THE MOTIVATION AT THE WHY IT
WAS NOT INCLUDED.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO AVOID IS
HEADING DOWN A PATH WHERE WE
DEVELOP SOME MISUNDERSTANDING
ABOUT THE MOTIVATION OF WHY IT
WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
WHICH LEADS ME TO MY NEXT
FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, WHICH IS,
IS THERE WILLINGNESS AMONGST
THE MAYOR TO HAVE ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS AS A CITY COUNCIL
CONSIDERS THIS POLICY PROPOSAL
TO DEVELOP SOME SOLUTION THAT
WOULD ADDRESS THE REALITIES OF
PPE NEEDS FOR SO LONG AS COVID-
19 EXISTS?
IF THERE IS, I WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN HAVING THOSE
CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU FOLKS
ABOUT SORT OF HAVING TO THINK
THROUGH WHAT SOME POTENTIAL
SOLUTIONS MIGHT BE.
IT WILL BE HELPFUL FROM ME TO
HEAR FROM YOU ALL OFF-LINE, AND
LESS YOU ARE READY TO DESCRIBE
NOW, WHAT CONSIDERATIONS YOU
CONSIDERED, BUT WEREN'T
PREPARED TO PROPOSE AT THIS
JUNCTURE.
>> I CAN SAY AT A HIGH LEVEL,
YES.
I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE TO SORT
THROUGH AS KEREM ALLUDED, THERE
WERE SOME CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS.
I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT ROLE, IF ANY,
THE COMPANIES ARE PLAYING IN
PROVIDING THEIR DRIVERS WITH
PPE.
IF THAT IS NOT CLEAR.
WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO YOUR
OFFICE WITH SOME OPTIONS FOR
CONSIDERATION.
>> THAT'S GREAT.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT INITIALLY
AS SORT OF SOME COMPANIES HAVE
BEGUN THE PROCESS OF PROVIDING
PPE TO THEIR DRIVERS.
I WAS JUST HOPING TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT
THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS
OF BAKING IN A SOLUTION TO THIS
POLICY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY
TO CONTINUE TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT.
I THINK THAT IS A SHARED
CONCERN AMONGST ALL OF US.
OKAY.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND HANDED OVER
NOW TO COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
THERE YOU ARE, I SEE YOU NOW.
COLLEAGUES, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE SHOOT ME
A MESSAGE OR RAISE YOUR HAND
AND I'M HAPPY TO CALL ON YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH MADAME
PRESIDENT.
I THINK THIS IS ALL GREAT.
I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE
JUMPING INTO SETTING THIS
REALLY CRITICAL FLOOR TO MAKE
THIS A MORE EQUITABLE CORNER OF
OUR ECONOMY THAT HAS REALLY
BEEN EXTREMELY CHALLENGING FOR
A LOT OF THE DRIVERS DOING THIS
WORK FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THIS IS ALL REALLY GREAT WORK.
I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
SO MUCH SO THAT MY QUESTION IS
ABOUT LOOKING FORWARD TO
CONTINUING THIS WORK AND
EXTENDING IT TO OTHER PORTIONS
OF THE APP BASED ECONOMY THAT
GOES BEYOND THE RIDE SHARE
COMPANIES, BUT EXTENDS TO
COMPANIES THAT ARE DOING
DELIVERIES, AND OTHER FORMS OF
APP-BASED LABOR.
I WONDER, I THINK THERE'S A
QUESTION MOSTLY FOR THE
ACADEMICS ON THE PALIO.
LOOKING FORWARD TO TAKING ON
WORK IN THOSE SEGMENTS, OF THE
ECONOMY, WHICH HAVE GOTTEN EVEN
BIGGER DURING THE COVID
EPIDEMIC AS PEOPLE, OR PANDEMIC,
AS PEOPLE ARE ORDERING MORE OF
THESE GROCERIES AND FOOD AND
OTHER THINGS TO TRY TO MAINTAIN
SOCIAL DISTANCING.
WHAT DO YOU ENVISION FROM THIS
WORK WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO
THOSE SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY AS
WELL?
WHERE DO YOU THINK THERE IS
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT WE
WOULD WANT TO ANSWER MOVING
INTO SET MINIMUM PAY STANDARDS
ND BENEFIT STANDARDS IN THOSE
OTHER APP-BASED SECTORS OF THE
ECONOMY AS WELL?
SPEND
>> IT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
GOOD POINT.
UBER EATS, THE DELIVERY
DIVISION, GENERATES MORE
REVENUE FOR UBER UBER DRIVING.
SO, IT'S NOT EASY TO ANSWER
YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE
VERY LITTLE DATA ABOUT DELIVERY
NETWORK COMPANIES.
MY INTUITION IS THAT LIKE THE
TNC'S, DEMAND FLUCTUATES
ENORMOUSLY OVER THE COURSE OF A
DAY.
OBVIOUSLY DINNERTIME FOR TAKEOUT
IS MUCH MORE OF A PEEK.
EARLIER, MORNING TIMES, OR MID
AFTERNOON, ARE PROBABLY LESS
NEEDED.
THERE ARE MORE DNC COMPANIES ,
AND THE DRIVERS FOR THOSE
COMPANIES, AT LEAST IN THE
PAST, DROVE LESS PER WEEK THAN
THEY DID FOR 1020S.
I WOULD NOTE THAT GRUBHUB,
WHICH IS I THINK THE BIGGEST
SUCH COMPANY, I'M SURE IT
OPERATES IN SEATTLE,
I WOULD THINK THE MINIMUM PAY
STANDARD
I THINK THERE WAS A MUCH
UNDERSTANDING OF THE TNC
BUSINESS MODEL.
THAT'S WHY WE STARTED THERE.
I THINK THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES
TO USE THIS POLICIES TO BE A
BUILDING BLOCK.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD PLEASE?
YOU ARE WORKING ON THAT MUTE
BUTTON.
I SEE YOU WORKING ON IT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION FROM
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, AND THE
DEPUTY MAYOR RANGANATHAN'S
RESPONSE, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE
WITH FOLKS, I THINK IT WAS IN
LATE 2017 THE COUNCIL PASSED
RESOLUTION 31863.
THIS SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR A
SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OLS
AS WELL AS THE LABOR STANDARDS
ADVISORY COMMITTEE,
SPECIFICALLY ON GETTING
EMPLOYMENT, AND IT WAS MORE
FOCUSED ON THIS QUESTION AROUND
MISCLASSIFICATION.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME
OUT LAST YEAR, WHICH IS WHAT
I'M OFFERING TO SHARE, THERE IS
A REPORT OUT OF OLS WHERE THEY
DEAL WITH A LOT OF THESE
ISSUES, SPECIFICALLY AROUND,
LESS ABOUT REGULATION AROUND
BASIC PAY STANDARDS.
MORE AROUND TRANSPARENCY.
PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW
WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET PAID.
THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT
THEIR TIP AND SERVICE CHARGE
POLICIES ARE, AND THE PAYMENT
SCHEDULE.
THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW THE
RATE, OR RATES OF PAY FOR THE
CONTRACTOR.
EXPENSES INCURRED.
IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO
REQUIRE THESE EMPLOYERS TO, IN
ADVANCE OF EMPLOYMENT, PROVIDE
DISCLOSURE OF THE EMPLOYEE'S
RIGHTS.
I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT.
THIS IS AN AREA THAT I HAVE
LONG FELT THAT THE COUNCIL
NEEDS TO BE MORE BROADLY
ENGAGED IN, INSTEAD OF -- I
REALLY APPRECIATE AND VALUE OUR
EFFORTS SECTOR BY SECTOR, BUT I
THINK THERE ARE SOME LARGER
ISSUES THAT CROSS ALL SECTORS
IN THE GIG ECONOMY.
OUTSIDE OF DOMESTIC WORKERS,
OUTSIDE OF TNC DRIVERS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
THE EXECUTIVE, AND OLS, AND THE
LABOR STANDARDS ADVISORY
COUNCIL ON THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS
ANTICIPATED PROPOSAL?
OKAY.
I AM SCANNING THE VIRTUAL ROOM.
IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT
COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ANY
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
I HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION.
WE DON'T NEED TO PULL THE
PRESENTATION BACKUP SINCE YOU
JUST TOOK IT DOWN.
REALLY QUICKLY, THERE WAS A
REFERENCE TO, AND A LOT OF
ANALYSIS IN THE PRESENTATION,
ABOUT THE CALCULATION OF THE
PER HOUR EARNINGS.
THE HOURLY EARNINGS THAT WE SAW.
THERE WAS A CONSTANT REFERENCE
TO, IT WAS THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT
PER HOUR, MINUS EXPENSES.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE
PUBLIC RECORD, TO JUST DEFINE
ONCE AGAIN REALLY QUICKLY, WHAT
WAS INCLUDED IN THE EXPENSES.
THAT IS DEDUCTED FROM THAT
ESTIMATED AVERAGE HOURLY WAGE,
AND THEN IF YOU COULD ANSWER
THE SECOND QUESTION, WHICH IS,
IS THERE ANYTHING BESIDES THOSE
EXPENSES THAT WE KNOW ALSO
COMES OUT OF THAT PER HOUR
AVERAGE OF EARNINGS?
>> I THINK THAT IS DIRECTED TO
ME.
THE EXPENSES ARE PRETTY WELL
DETAILED ON THAT SLIDE THAT
KEREM JUST PUT UP, THANK YOU.
THERE'S AN EVEN MORE DETAILED
LIST IN THE APPENDIX OF THE
REPORT.
IT LISTS NOT ONLY THE
INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, BUT HOW MUCH
THEY ARE ANNUALLY, WEEKLY, AND
PER MILE.
THEY INCLUDE VEHICLE
REGISTRATION COSTS, MOTOR
VEHICLE EXCISE TAX, ANNUAL
VEHICLE INSPECTION, STATE
BUSINESS LICENSE, CITY BUSINESS
LICENSE, AS WELL AS THE VEHICLE
ACQUISITION, GAS, MAINTENANCE,
INSURANCE, CELL PHONE AND
CLEANING.
EACH OF THOSE, WE HAD TO MAKE
SOME CHOICES LIKE HOW OFTEN
DOES THE VEHICLE NEED TO BE
CLEANED?
THAT'S BEHIND THESE NUMBERS.
THEY ARE ALL DOCUMENTED AS WELL
AS WE CAN.
I SHOULD SAY ONE OF THE LARGEST
ELEMENTS IS VEHICLE
ACQUISITION.
YOU CAN THINK OF THIS AS ALSO
ANY DRIVER, EVEN IF THEY
ALREADY HAVE A CAR, IF THEY ARE
ADDING MILES TO THE CAR,
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
REPLACE THE CAR SOONER THAN
THEY WERE IF THEY WEREN'T
DRIVING FOR A TNC.
WE WENT AROUND A LOT OF
DIFFERENT WAYS TO ESTIMATE WHAT
THOSE COSTS ARE.
WE USED FINANCING, WE USED
LEASING COSTS, WE COULD USE
DEPRECIATION ALLOWANCES FROM
THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE.
WE CAME UP TO I THINK, WITH
$.52 PER MILE.
I THINK WE WENT ABOUT IT QUITE
CONSERVATIVELY, WHAT EXPENSES
MIGHT BE.
OF COURSE, YOU COULD SAY THAT
SOME OF THE REALLY CASUAL
DRIVERS, MIGHT NOT EVEN INCUR
THESE EXPENSES IN A MEANINGFUL
AMOUNT.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH
ALLOWING THEM TO BE REIMBURSED
FOR THIS SMALL EXPENSE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> IT'S EXHIBIT 28 IN OUR
REPORT.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT REFERENCE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR YOU SAY IT
OUT LOUD.
NOT MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
ARE GOING TO GO TO THE APPENDIX
AND THE FOOTNOTES TO READ THESE
GRANULAR DETAILS.
WE WILL ON THE COUNCIL BECAUSE
WE ARE POLICY NERDS AT HEART.
BUT NOT EVERY MEMBER OF THE
PUBLIC IS GOING TO GO INTO THAT
LEVEL OF DILIGENCE ON THE
REPORT.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE
TIME TO WALK US THROUGH THAT.
I THINK THE IMPORTANT TAKE AWAY
FOR ME, AS I REFLECT ON YOUR
REITERATION OF THOSE POINTS, IS
THAT THE ESTIMATE THAT IS
INCLUDED IN THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSAL IS OUR BEST ESTIMATE
AVAILABLE TO US RIGHT NOW BASED
ON THE RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE
AVAILABLE TO US.
I'M HEARING FROM YOU THAT YOU
TOOK A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO
COME UP WITH THOSE HOURLY
AVERAGE HOURLY EARNINGS NUMBERS.
MEANING THAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN
A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE IN
TERMS OF DISCOUNTING ASSOCIATED
EXPENSES FROM THAT AVERAGE, BUT
WE CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT IN THIS
CONTEXT.
THEN, LASTLY, THAT THERE MAY BE
CATEGORIES OF OTHER EXPENSES
THAT WE MAY HAVE JUST NOT BEEN
ABLE TO CAPTURE BECAUSE OF THE
LACK OF AVAILABLE INFORMATION
AND WILLINGNESS OF THE
RIDESHARE COMPANIES TO SHARE
MORE INFORMATION WITH US.
LEADING US TO DOING THE BEST WE
CAN TO CAPTURE INFORMATION FROM
ENOUGH DRIVERS TO BE ABLE TO
COME UP WITH OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS
. I HIGHLIGHT THIS BECAUSE I
THINK THAT HOURLY NUMBER IS
OBVIOUSLY WHERE THE CRUX OF THE
POLICY ISSUES ARE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US
ALL TO HAVE A GOOD
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW YOU ALL
CAME UP WITH SOME OF THOSE DATA
POINTS AS THE COUNCIL PREPARES
TO COME AFTER RECESS, TO DIG
INTO THE GRANULAR DETAILS OF
THE POLICY PROPOSAL.
DID I MISS STATE ANYTHING OR
DOES ANYTHING HAVE TO BE
CLARIFIED BASED ON MY TAKEAWAYS?
>> I WOULD JUST ADD THAT OUR
QUESTIONS ABOUT COSTS, OR
INVESTIGATION, WERE MUCH MORE
COMPLICATIONS THAN WHAT THEY
TNC'S LIST WHEN THEY LOOK AT
EXPENSES.
THE STUDY LISTED BY THE TNC'S
IS A MUCH SHORTER LIST.
FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T THINK THEY
TALK ABOUT CELL PHONES OR CELL
PLANS, OR VEHICLE CLEANING AND
SO FORTH.
WHILE I'D SAY OURS IS
CONSIDERABLY MORE DETAILED, IT
IS TRYING TO CAPTURE ALL THE
COSTS.
THE LIST COMES FROM TALKING TO
DRIVERS.
THOSE, IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE
WE FIRST DID THIS KIND OF COST
MODELING, AND HEARING FROM
SEATTLE DRIVERS AS WELL.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM FOLKS
FROM OUR GUEST PREVENTERS?
DEPUTY MAYOR I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY CLOSING
REMARKS BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT
THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
>> JUST THAT WE ARE LOOKING
FORWARD TO TRANSMITTING THE
PROPOSAL.
THERE IS A LAG SIMPLY BECAUSE
WE HAVE TO RESOLVE SOME
TECHNICAL ELEMENTS RELATED TO
THE LEGISLATION ITSELF.
WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER, I JUST WANT TO
ONCE AGAIN ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR
POINT AROUND PPE COSTS.
WE WILL BE CIRCLING BACK WITH
YOUR OFFICE ON KIND OF HOW TO
BE THINK ABOUT THAT, AND WHAT
ADDITIONAL WORK WE NEED TO DO
WITH THE COMPANIES TO GET A
BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT
THEY ARE, WHAT THEY NEED TO
POTENTIALLY BE COVERING AS THIS
POLICY IS DEVELOPED.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT FOLLOW-
UP.
>>> OKAY, COLLEAGUES, I THINK
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION
ON THE TNC PROPOSED
LEGISLATION THAT THE COUNCIL
WILL BE RECEIVING LATER THIS
MONTH.
BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR POLICY WORK
ON IT.
I THINK THE DEPUTY MAYOR AND
THE PRESENTERS, BOTH RACHEL,
AND KEREM, AND ALSO DR. REICH
FOR GIVING US THIS PRESENTATION
THIS MORNING.
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR
HARD WORK.
OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A LOT OF
HARD WORK THAT WENT INTO PLAY
IN THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE IT
GOT TO US.
THE UNDERLYING POLICY, WE LOOK
FORWARD TO, AS I'M SURE ALL OF
MY COLLEAGUES DO, LOOK FORWARD
TO DIGGING INTO THE DETAILS
ONCE WE GET THE ACTUAL
LEGISLATION.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THAT WILL
UNFOLD RELATED TO THIS
PARTICULAR ISSUE.
YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR
AGENDA AND YOU ARE ALL OF
COURSE WELCOME TO LEAVE THE
MEETING AND GO ABOUT YOUR OTHER
CITY BUSINESS.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
>> YOU TOO.
>>> WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE
THROUGH OUR AGENDA.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO A
PRESENTATION OF COUNCILMEMBERS
PREVIEW OF TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL
ACTIONS.
COUNCIL AND REGIONAL
COMMITTEES.
I'LL CALL ON COUNCILMEMBERS. WE
BEGIN WITH COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM
COUNCILMEMBERS HERBOLD, LEWIS,
AND MORALES, AND THEN PEDERSEN,
AND THEN I WILL CLOSE OUT THE
MEETING.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT AND
MOSQUEDA ARE EXCUSED FROM
COUNCIL BRIEFING AND CITY
COUNCIL FOR TODAY.
FIRST UP IS COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS, PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
THE LAND-USE AND NEIGHBORHOODS
COMMITTEE HAS FIVE APPOINTMENTS
OUT TO THE SEATTLE DESIGN TODAY.
THERE ARE ALSO FOUR ITEMS ON THE
COMMITTEE ON TODAY'S FULL
COUNCIL AGENDA.
COUNCIL BIZ 119847, 848, 849,
WHICH ARE LANDMARKS
DESIGNATIONS FOR THE CANTERBURY
COURT.
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON'S
ENGINEERING ANNEX AND THE RIGHT
VIEW APARTMENTS.
COUNCIL BILL 109841, WHICH IS
THE CHILDCARE ORDINANCE,
DIVIDES INCENTIVES AND EASES
LAND-USE BARRIERS FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF CHILDCARE
FACILITIES.
THIS IS MY FIRST BILL THAT I
DEVELOPED HERE AT COUNCIL,
WHICH WE STARTED WORKING ON IN
JANUARY . AS YOU CAN TELL, THE
BILLS TAKE A VERY LONG TIME
BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC NOTICE
AND PUBLIC INPUT REQUIREMENTS.
THIS BILL SIMPLY CHANGES THE
CONDITIONAL PERMIT ASPECT OF
CHILDCARE FACILITIES.
SO, THERE REMAINS A PRIMARY
PERMITTING PROCESS, AND STATE
LICENSING, TO ENSURE THAT
FACILITIES ARE CITING CORRECTLY,
AND CONSTRUCTED AND OPERATE
WITHIN OUR REGULATIONS TO
ENSURE THAT CHILDCARE IS
PROVIDED WITH THE QUALITY,
INEQUALITY SETTING.
I WILL SPEAK MORE ON FULL
COUNCIL.
THIS IS JUST ONE STEP IN MANY
DIFFERENT ACTION ITEMS THAT WE
NEED TO TAKE TO MAKE CHILDCARE
AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO
SEATTLEITES.
THE NEXT MEETING OF THE
COMMITTEE IS ON SEPTEMBER 9th,
STARTING AT 9:30 A.M.
THERE ARE FIVE AGENDA ITEMS ON
THE AGENDA.
A BRIEFING AND PUBLIC HEARING
ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AMENDMENTS, WHICH WERE DOCKETED
LAST YEAR.
EVERYTHING IN PUBLIC HEARING ON
THE RESOLUTION FOR THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND A POST ADOPTION PUBLIC
HEARING ON THE FLOODPLAIN
REGULATION THAT WE, AS
COUNSELOR, ADOPTED LAST MONTH.
THERE WILL ALSO BE A VOTE ON
ONE 19827, WHICH RESULTS A LAND
IN THE RANIER BEACH AREA FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND A BRIEFING ON LEGISLATION.
LASTLY, A BRIEFING FROM SCT EYE
ON LEGISLATION THEY WILL BE
TRANSMITTING TO EXTEND THE
EMERGENCY CHANGES WE MADE THIS
YEAR TO THE DESIGN REVIEW
PROCESS.
IN REGARDS TO VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
I DID RECEIVE A REPORT FROM
THEM LAST WEEK, THAT THEY HAVE
STARTED DOING VIRTUAL MEETINGS
FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS.
IT DOES TAKE AN ADDITIONAL
STAFF MEMBER WHO RUNS THE
MEETING BEHIND EVERYONE ELSE
WHO IS ALREADY CONDUCTING THEIR
BUSINESS.
MUCH LIKE WE HAVE HERE.
WE HAVE OUR I.T.
TEAM.
THANK YOU.
I.T.
TEAMS ARE IMPORTANT TO ENSURE
THAT PEOPLE LIKE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT CAN CONTINUE RUNNING
THE MEETINGS.
>>> NEXT SPEAK WAY TOO CHEAP
BEST'S RETIREMENT.
IT IS A TREMENDOUS LOSS TO OUR
CITY.
OUR ACTIONS HERE AT CITY
COUNCIL WERE NOT INTENDED TO BE
PERSONAL, AND WE ABSOLUTELY
VALUE HER WORK.
IT'S CLEAR THE INTENT WAS NOT
THE IMPACT THAT WAS FELT.
WHEN POLICY IS VIEWED IN A
VACUUM, WE OFTENTIMES MISS THE
SOFT VARIABLES WHICH ARE
CRITICAL TO THIS WORK.
OUR ACTIONS WERE NEVER INTENDED
TO BE PERSONAL, AND MY ACTIONS
WERE NEVER INTENDED TO BE
PERSONAL, AND I AM SORRY FOR
THAT.
>>> HERE IN DISTRICT 6, WE
CONTINUE TO HAVE RESIDENT
MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL RECESS
BEGINNING NEXT WEEK.
WE WILL PUT A PAUSE ON OUR
MEETINGS.
I HAVE PRESIDENT MEETINGS EVERY
WEEK.
DISTRICT MEETINGS WILL PICK UP
AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER.
LAST WEEK I SPOKE TO DISTRICT 6
RESIDENTS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY,
AT BALLARD COMMONS, THE
TRIANGLE, AND THE EVER SPRING
HOTEL.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON ALL
THREE SITES.
IN REGARDS TO SMALL BUSINESSES,
I WAS WORKING WITH SMALL
BUSINESSES ON BALLARD AVENUE IN
THE FARMERS MARKET IN REGARDS
TO OUR CAFE STREETS.
I BELIEVE WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO
HAVING CONSENSUS ON HOW WE AS A
NEIGHBORHOOD CAN MOVE FORWARD
ON THIS PROPOSAL.
I KNOW THERE ARE PROPOSALS
OCCURRING IN OTHER PARTS OF OUR
CITY ALREADY.
LASTLY, ON THE SCOOTERS, I WILL
BE SHEPHERDING THE MAYOR'S
SCOOTER BILL FORWARD LATER THIS
WEEK.
I STILL HAVE MANY CONCERNS
ABOUT HOW A PROGRAM CAN WORK IN
SEATTLE.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE
HAD AN EPIDEMIC CONVERSATION
ABOUT THIS FOR A VERY LONG
TIME.
I BELIEVE ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
WE NEED TO TRY THIS WITH A
PILOT TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND
THAT SCOOTERS ARE APPROPRIATE
IN SEATTLE.
WE NEED TO DO THIS BEFORE THE
RAINY DARKNESS RETURNS.
THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
WE MOVE FORWARD THIS WEEK.
IF WE TRY THIS, AND IT DOESN'T
WORK, THEN WE CAN PULL IT BACK
AND WE CAN STOP.
WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
THIS NOW TO ANSWER THE ACADEMIC
QUESTIONS OUTSIDE OF THE VACUUM
OF POLICY AND TEST THE PROGRAM
IN REAL LIFE.
THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT,
THAT IS MY REPORT.
>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
FOR COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE DOWN
TO COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS
FOR YOUR REMARKS REGARDING THE
RESIGNATION OF THE CHIEF.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
REMARKS THIS MORNING, AS WELL
AS LAST WEEK, AND THE FACT THAT
I BELIEVE EVERY COUNCILMEMBER
ISSUED A STATEMENT, EITHER
ALONE, OR IN CONCERT WITH OTHER
COUNCILMEMBERS, IS REALLY A
STRONG INDICATION OF THE IMPORT
OF THIS DECISION THAT THE CHIEF
HAS MADE.
IT SHOWS THE FACT THAT WE ARE
RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT,
REGARDLESS OF OUR INTENT, TO
PERSONALIZE OUR ISSUES, THAT
THE RECEPTION OF OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS MAY BE DIFFERENT
THAN OUR INTENT.
AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I
KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBERS FEEL
DIFFERENT, BUT WE ALL I THINK
REALLY UNDERSTAND THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS ACTION AND
THE SIGNIFICANCE TO OUR
COMMUNITY. PARTICULARLY OUR
BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY.
>>> AS FAR AS ITEMS ON THE FULL
COUNCIL AGENDA TODAY.
I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION.
THE APPOINTMENT IS RON BAKER.
THIS IS A CPC APPOINTMENT.
IT IS SPECIFICALLY TO THE
POSITION THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR
PUBLIC DEFENSE.
THIS IS A SPECIFIC CATEGORY FOR
THE CPC TO APPOINT IN THE
ACCOUNTABILITY LEGISLATION
ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL IN 2017.
JUST FOR A BACKGROUND, THE
OTHER POSITIONS THAT THE CPC
APPOINTS TWO, IN ADDITION TO
PUBLIC DEFENSE, ONE OF CIVIL
LIBERTIES, ANOTHER IS FOG, AND
THE SEATTLE POLICE MANAGEMENT
ASSOCIATION.
THE BACKGROUND AND
QUALIFICATION TO FILL THIS
PUBLIC DEFENSE POSITION ARE
EXCEPTIONAL.
SHE WORKS AS SPECIAL COUNCIL
FOR AFFIRMATIVE LITIGATION AND
POLICY.
AT THE KING COUNTY TO PUBLIC
DEFENSE.
SHE SPEARHEADS THE INQUEST
PROGRAMS AND REPRESENTS
FAMILIES WHO HAVE LOST LOVED
ONES TO POLICE VIOLENCE.
SHE HAS 10 YEARS OF CIVIL
RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES
LITIGATION AND POLICY EXPENSE.
HAVING PREVIOUSLY SERVED IN THE
GENERAL CIVIL RIGHTS UNIT OF
THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE AND THE ACLU.
ALSO SERVE AS COUNCIL IN THE
LANDMARK TRUE BLOOD VERSUS DHSS
CASE AND HAS WORKED ON
SUCCESSFUL CASES. I'M REALLY
EXCITED THAT THE COUNCIL WILL
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONFIRM
HER AS A NEW MEMBER OF THE
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION
TODAY.
>>> ALSO, TODAY'S FULL COUNCIL,
MEETING, WE WILL BE HEARING AND
VOTING ON COUNCIL BUILT 1198
40.
THIS IS A BILL COSPONSORED WITH
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
A YOUTH RIGHTS ORDINANCE.
THIS PROHIBITS LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS FROM QUESTIONING,
EXCEPT IN LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES,
PEOPLE WHO ARE 18 YEARS OF AGE
OR YOUNGER, WHERE A MIRANDA
WARNING IS ADMINISTERED, UNLESS
THEY HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC DEFENSE.
WE HAVE RECEIVED LETTERS OF
SUPPORT AS IT RELATES TO THIS
ORDINANCE FROM THE COMMUNITY
POLICE COMMISSION, THE SEATTLE
OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, ON
BEHALF OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION.
THE ELECTED DISTRICT ATTORNEY
THAT IS THE PROSECUTING
ATTORNEY, OF SAN FRANCISCO.
THE MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR THE
JUVENILE DIVISION OF THE SAN
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE.
THEN, WE RECEIVED A LETTER OF
SUPPORT FROM COMMUNITY SIGNED
BY A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT
ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING
CREATIVE JUSTICE, COMMUNITY
PASSAGEWAYS, DECRIMINALIZE
SEATTLE.
THE NORTHWEST COMMUNITY BILL
FUND.
THE WASHINGTON DEFENDER
ASSOCIATION.
THE URBAN LEAGUE, YOU CARE,
ACLU OF WASHINGTON, THE
MOCKINGBIRD SOCIETY, COLUMBIA
LEGAL SERVICES, THE NORTHWEST
IMMIGRANT RIGHTS PROJECT, AND
MORE.
KING COUNTY COUNCIL IS
CONSIDERING A SIMILAR BILL.
THAT BILL IS BEFORE THEIR FULL
COUNCIL THIS WEEK.
AFTER A JULY 22nd COMMITTEE VOTE
RECOMMENDING PASSAGE OF 41.
THE COUNCIL RECEIVED FROM
CENTRAL STAFF OVER THE WEEKEND,
OR MAYBE IT WAS FRIDAY, A MEMO
FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FIRST
BEFORE RESPONDING TO IT, THAT
MY EMAIL LAST NIGHT, RESPONDING
TO THAT MEMO FROM THE LAW
DEPARTMENT, MAY HAVE BEEN OF
EARLY IMPLIED THAT CENTRAL STAFF
DID NOT REQUEST THE LAW
DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THE LATEST
VERSION OF THE BILL.
I WAS COMPLETELY UNATTENDED.
I WROTE THAT THE LAW DEPARTMENT
MINIMAL INCLUDED ANALYSIS ON
LANGUAGE IN THE BILL.
THIS IS A REFERENCE TO THE
ANALYSIS RELATED TO THE PRIVATE
RIGHT OF ACTION THAT IS NOT
INCLUDED IN THIS BILL BEFORE US
TODAY.
THE CIO MEMO THAT WAS SENT TO
US ON FRIDAY ALSO DIDN'T
ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE OTHER
ADDITIONAL CHANGES IN THE BILL
BEFORE US TODAY.
I JUST WANT TO VERY QUICKLY
SPEAK TO THEM.
THE CIO MEMO REFERENCED THE
IMPACT ON PROSECUTIONS, THAT
COULD RESULT IN DISMISSAL OR
EXCLUSION OF EVIDENCE.
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WE
INCLUDED A SPECIFIC SECTION G
TO THE NEWEST VERSION OF THE
ORDINANCE.
IT SPECIFICALLY CLARIFIES THAT
FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE
ORDINANCE DOES NOT AT ALL AFFECT
THE ADMISSIBILITY OF ANY
EVIDENCE IN COURT.
THE ORDINANCE ITSELF HAS NO
BEARING ON WHAT EVIDENCE CAN BE
ADMITTED INTO COURT.
SO, THAT PARTICULAR CHANGE ALSO
IMPACTS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
AROUND PREEMPTION OF THE
JUVENILE JUSTICE ACT OF 1977.
THE CLARIFICATION THAT THE
LANGUAGE AROUND THE
ADMISSIBILITY OF EVIDENCE IN
COURT, ADDRESSES SOME OF THE
ISSUES THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN
SOME CONCERN AROUND THE
JUVENILE JUSTICE ACT OF 1977.
FINALLY, AGAIN, THE REFERENCE
TO THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION
IN THE MEMO THAT WE HAVE
RECEIVED OVER THE WEEKEND.
THIS PARTICULAR BILL DOES NOT
CONTEMPLATE A SPECIFIC
DESIGNATED, ENSHRINED RIGHT, A
PRIVATE LAWSUIT FOR FAILURE TO
ADHERE TO THE LAW IN THIS
VERSION OF THE BILL.
IT REMOVED THE SESSION DUE TO
CONCERNS WE RECEIVED FROM THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
>>> MOVING ON TO OTHER ITEMS
RELATED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY
AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE.
I THINK FOLKS ARE AWARE THAT ON
FRIDAY, THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION, THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL, AND THE OFFICE OF
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY ALL SET
REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL
REGARDING THE USE OF CROWD
CONTROL WEAPONS.
AS REQUESTED IN THE COUNCIL
LEGISLATION ADOPTED ON JUNE
15th.
DISTRICT COURT JUDGE WILL
BARTON APPROVED A TEMPORARY
RESTRAINING ORDER ON
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COUNCIL'S
ORDINANCE THAT WAS REQUESTED BY
THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
DUE TO THE 2012 CONSENT DECREE.
THIS TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER
WAS EXTENDED TO SEPTEMBER 18th.
IN OUR ORDINANCE, WE REQUESTED
THAT THESE THREE ACCOUNTABILITY
ORDINANCES, ACCOUNTABILITY
BODIES, AS MENTIONED, THE CPC,
THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, AND OPA,
WOULD GIVE US THEIR INPUT ON THE
RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT ALSO THAT
THEY WOULD SEND THAT INPUT TO
THE JUDGE.
SO, THE NEW INFORMATION THAT
FOLKS MAY BE INTERESTED TO LEARN
IS THAT THE COUNCIL WILL BE
REPRESENTED BY SEPARATE OUTSIDE
COUNCIL IN THE CASE.
BEFORE THE JUDGE.
DURING NEURAL HEARINGS, A
COUPLE WEEKS AGO, HE RAISED
SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT
CONFLICTS IN THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
PARTICIPATING BOTH IN THE
DEFENSE OF THE ORDINANCE, GIVEN
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S PREVIOUS
ARGUMENTS.
SO, THE COURT HAS LAID OUT A
PROCESS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE TO FILE A MOTION FOR
PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION BY
AUGUST 27th.
WITH A CITY RESPONSE DUE TO THE
COURT ON SEPTEMBER 8th WITH ANY
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE REPLIED TO
BY SEPTEMBER 11th.
THIS IS INTENDED TO ALLOW THE
COURT TO ADDRESS THIS BEFORE
SEPTEMBER 18th.
ALSO, KEEP IN MIND, THAT
COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE
CITY'S ORDINANCE, BLACK LIVES
MATTER, AND THE ACLU REQUESTED
A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER
THAT THE COURT APPROVED BACK
ONTO 13th THAT LIMITS THE USE
OF CROWD CONTROL DEVICES AT
PROTESTS.
THE CITY AGREED TO EXTEND A
PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION LIMITING
THE USE OF CROWD CONTROL
DEVICES THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30th.
A WEEK AGO, AGREED TO EXPAND
THIS STILL FURTHER, TO LIMIT
THE USE OF CHEMICAL AREAS OR
PROJECTILES, AND SPECIFICALLY
CALLED OUT A PROHIBITION ON USE
AGAINST AND LESS, LEGAL
OBSERVERS, AND MEDICS.
DECLARING A RIOT DOES NOT
EXEMPT THE CITY FROM ITS
OBLIGATION UNDER THE ORDER.
GOING BACK TO THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE THREE
ACCOUNTABILITY BODIES, ON OUR
ORDINANCE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO
RECOGNIZE THAT THEIR
RECOMMENDATIONS COME FROM
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, IN LINE
WITH THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AS
ACCOUNTABILITY BODIES.
THE OPA RECOMMENDATIONS,
PARTIALLY COME FROM THE
PERSPECTIVE OF REVIEWING THE
COMPLAINTS FILED.
THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL REALLY FOCUSES ON THE
STRUCTURAL ISSUES IN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES AS
COMPARED TO OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
THE CPC'S PERSPECTIVE FOCUSES
IN PART ON THE EFFECTIVE
POLICING POLICIES ON THE
COMMUNITY'S TRUST.
THE ISSUES RAISED REGARDING THE
COUNCIL'S ORDINANCE FROM THESE
THREE ACCOUNTABILITY BODIES
INCLUDES THE USE OF THESE
DEVICES IN SITUATIONS WHERE
THERE ARE NO ISSUES OF CROWD
CONTROL, AS WELL AS THE USE OF
THESE DEVICES DURING CROWD
CONTROL.
ALL THREE BODIES NOTE SUPPORT
FOR ALLOWING THE USE OF SOME
LETHAL, SOME LESS LETHAL
OPTIONS OUTSIDE OF CROWD
CONTROL.
THE ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN,
DEFINED FOR USE OF EVIDENCE AND
PROJECTILES AS CROWD CONTROL
DEVICES NO MATTER HOW THEY ARE
USED.
THERE IS A DEFINITIONAL ISSUE
WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
ORDINANCE ITSELF.
IT BASICALLY POSITS THAT ALL OF
THESE WEAPONS ARE CROWD CONTROL
WEAPONS, OR CROWD CONTROL
DEVICES NO MATTER HOW THEY ARE
USED.
SO, THE THING TO JUST KEEP IN
MIND IS THAT THE OPA AND THE OIG
BOTH PROPOSED REAUTHORIZING THE
LIMITED USE OF CROWD CONTROL
DEVICES DURING CROWD CONTROL
SITUATIONS WHEN VIOLENCE IS
PRESENT.
THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL INDICATES THAT ANY
REAUTHORIZATION SHOULD BE
ACCOMPANIED BY CHANGES IN
POLICY AND TRAINING TO REDUCE
RISK OF HARM, TO NONVIOLENT
PROTESTERS.
AND THE OPA PROPOSES CONDITIONS
TO MINIMIZE USE.
ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT
TIMELINE LAID OUT BY THE JUDGE,
WE CAN EXPECT TO HEAR FROM THE
COURT BY SEPTEMBER 18th.
AGAIN, GIVEN THE LATE DATE OF
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, I
BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO BE
LOOKING TO GET A LITTLE BIT
MORE TIME BEFORE WE ARE
REQUIRED TO SUBMIT OUR MOTION
TO THE COURT.
>>> JUST A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS
JUST WANT TO SHARE RELATED TO
RECOMMENDATIONS OUT OF KING
COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH RELATED TO
WEARING MASKS DURING HOT
WEATHER.
THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
PREVENTING CORONAVIRUS DURING
HOT WEATHER LIKE WE ARE
EXPERIENCING.
WEARING A FACE COVERING OF
COURSE IS A KEY MEASURE TO
PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVID,
BUT IN HOT WEATHER, WHERE ONE
CAN ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO
OVERHEATING.
SO, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO
AVOID SPENDING TIME IN HOT
INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SPACES WHERE
YOU ALSO NEED TO WEAR A FACE
COVERING.
IF YOU'RE IN A PUBLIC PLACE AND
NEED TO WEAR A FACE COVERING,
TAKE A SAFELY DISTANCED MASK
BREAK IF YOU'RE GETTING TOO HOT
AND UNCOMFORTABLE.
MAKE SURE YOU GO OUTSIDE AND
ARE DISTANCED FROM OTHERS BY AT
LEAST 6 FEET WHEN YOU'RE TAKING
A MASK BREAK.
REMOVE YOUR FACIAL COVERING TO
BREATHE AND COOL DOWN, AND PUT
THE MASK BACK ON BEFORE
RETURNING TO THE VENUE OR
ACTIVITY WHERE THE MASK IS
REQUIRED.
>>> LASTLY THERE IS GOING TO BE
A FREE MASK DISTRIBUTION EVENT
COMING UP ON THURSDAY, AUGUST
20th.
YOU CAN PICK UP FREE MASKS IN
THE RANIER BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD
AND THAT GOES FROM 1:00 TO 5:00
P.M..
THIS IS FOR KING COUNTY
RESIDENTS.
IT'S A DRIVE TO PICK UP EVENT.
INTERESTED RESIDENTS CAN ENTER
AT THE PARKING LOT ENTRANCE.
TELL THE STAFF PERSON THE NUMBER
OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE
HOUSEHOLD, AND PICK UP SOME
MASKS.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT A
POTENTIAL REQUEST FOR AN
EXTENSION WOULD BE RELATED MORE
IN PART TO THE FACT THAT WE
HAVE BEEN, AS A CITY COUNCIL,
REQUIRED TO GET NEW COUNSEL.
AND THAT THAT COUNSEL CAME TO
US ON WEDNESDAY.
OUR LEGAL COUNSEL NEEDS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH UP IN
ORDER TO PROVIDE US WITH THEIR
OPPORTUNITIES TO RESPOND.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THAT COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND WHAT
THE MOTIVATION WOULD BE FOR
ASKING FOR A POTENTIAL
EXTENSION IN THE EVENT THAT YOU
RECEIVE ANY INQUIRIES FROM YOUR
CONSTITUENTS, OR OTHER MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC. IS THAT A FAIR
CHARACTERIZATION?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
OF COURSE WE HAVE THE REPORTS
THAT CAME FROM OPA, CPC, AND
OIG.
WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
DIG DEEPER INTO THOSE REPORTS.
AND TO REACH OUT TO EACH OF THE
ENTITIES FOR QUESTIONS,
BRIEFING.
ANY OTHER INFORMATION WE MIGHT
NEED IN THE INTERIM BETWEEN NOW
AND THE COURT PROCEEDINGS TO
GET CLARIFICATION. COLLEAGUES,
YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO REACH
OUT TO THOSE PARTICULAR ENTITIES
, ALTHOUGH THAT MIGHT BE
OVERWHELMING TO THEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT IF
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY
THREE OF THE REPORTS, THAT YOU
LOOK IN COORDINATION WITH MY
OFFICE AND AND COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF TO CATALOG ANY STUFF
THAT FOLKS MIGHT HAVE TWO GET
THOSE QUESTIONS OVER TO THE
ACCOUNTABILITY ENTITIES
ACCORDINGLY.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, DOES
THAT SOUND LIKE AN OKAY PROCESS
FOR YOU?
>> IN THE ABSENCE OF BEING ABLE
TO INVITE FOLKS TO DO
EVERYTHING, IN BRIEFINGS,
GIVING OUR RECESS, AND GIVEN
THE TIMING, I THINK HAVING SOME
SORT OF A COORDINATED PROCESS
TO COLLECT AND RECEIVE ANSWERS
TO QUESTIONS THAT
COUNCILMEMBERS MAY HAVE IS WISE.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU, I
APPRECIATE THAT.
WE'LL LOOK TO YOU AND YOUR
OFFICE TO GET US COORDINATED IN
THAT FASHION.
WE'LL ALSO WORK TO FOLLOW UP
WITH EACH OF YOU IN TERMS OF
NEXT STEPS RELATED TO THE COURT
PROCEEDING.
>>> I DO WANT TO SAY SORT OF
SETTING ASIDE THE TECHNICAL
PROCEDURAL ITEMS THAT I JUST
FINISHED DISCUSSING, I DO WANT
TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE
ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS' HARD
WORK.
AND THE PRODUCTION OF THEIR
REPORTS, CONSISTENT WITH THE
COURT'S ORDER.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I
BELIEVE THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THE
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM WAS
INTENDED AND DESIGNED TO WORK.
SO, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
THEY ARE TAKING A HARD LOOK FROM
THEIR PARTICULAR LENS THROUGH
THEIR PARTICULAR STATUTORY
OBLIGATION IN THE
ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE, AND
THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING VOICE
ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE IS
COMING TO BEAR THROUGH THESE
REPORTS AND THE CONCLUSIONS
THEY HAVE PROVIDED TO US.
I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL
FIND THAT THAT KIND OF FEEDBACK
LOOP, WILL BE VERY HELPFUL AND
TO BE EFFECTIVE IN SHAPING HOW
WE MOVE FORWARD HERE NEXT.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE
HARD WORK THAT THE
ACCOUNTABILITY ENTITIES, ALL
THREE OF THEM, DID THROUGH THE
END OF LAST WEEK AND LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING
COOPERATION THERE.
COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS FOR COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD?
ALRIGHTY.
HEARING NONE, WE ARE GOING TO
GO AHEAD AND GO DOWN THE LINE
OF THE ROLE.
WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS NEXT.
>> THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT.
THERE ARE NO ITEMS ON THIS
AFTERNOON'S BUSY AGENDA FROM
THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON
HOMELESS AND STRATEGIES AND
INVESTMENTS.
I DO WANT TO FLAG THAT I HAD
BEEN TALKING TO SOME FOLKS ON
THE FLOOR ABOUT POTENTIALLY
HAVING A COMMITTEE MEETING THIS
WEDNESDAY TO JUST DO A LITTLE
BIT OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE
PUBLIC ABOUT SOME OF THE
POTENTIAL STRATEGIES WITH OUR
SOCIAL SERVICE PROVIDER PARTNERS
THAT MIGHT FILL THE VOID OF THE
NAVIGATION TEAM LEAVING.
I BELIEVE SOME OF THOSE
STRATEGIES WERE, I DON'T
BELIEVE, I KNOW.
SOME OF THOSE STRATEGIES WERE
MENTIONED VERY ABLY IN AN
EDITORIAL IN THE SEATTLE TIMES
RECENTLY BY ALLISON ICING AND
CODY GRACE.
DISCUSSING THE WORKS THAT REACH
AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN DOING TO
PROVIDE OUTREACH TO OUR
NEIGHBORS EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS AND LIVING IN ON
SANCTIONS ENCAMPMENTS.
INSTEAD OF DOING A COMMITTEE
MEETING, JUST GIVEN THAT WE ARE
GEARING UP TO GO ON RECESS, I
WILL BE DOING A TOWNHALL ON
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.
IT WILL START AT 3:30.
ON ZOOM.
I CAN ANNOUNCE NOW THAT I'LL BE
JOINED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE.
WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION
ABOUT SOME OF THE STRATEGIES
AND PARTNERSHIPS WE MIGHT LOOK
AT DEVELOPING IN THE FALL TO
REPLACE THE OUTREACH AND OTHER
SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN
PROVIDED BY THE NAVIGATION TEAM.
AND TO REFLECT THE INTENT OF
THIS COUNCIL TO MOVE PAST THE
NAVIGATION TEAM AND TRY TO
INVEST IN STRATEGIES THAT ARE
MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR
SERVICE PROVIDER PARTNERS HAD
BEEN DEMANDING FOR A LONG TIME.
SO, I'LL BE HAVING THAT
TOWNHALL.
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ARE
CERTAINLY INVITED TO JOIN ME.
I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE
EXCHANGES AND THINK THAT WILL
BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO HEAR
AN EXTENDED DISCUSSION ABOUT
HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHANGE
SOME OF OUR OUTREACH PRACTICES
AND HOW THAT CAN BE INFORMED BY
THE EXPERIENCE THAT THESE
ORGANIZATIONS HAVE.
I'M GOING TO SEND OUT DETAILS
HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF
THIS MORNING ABOUT SETTING UP
THAT TOWNHALL.
OTHERWISE, I DON'T HAVE ANY
UPDATES THIS MORNING.
BEYOND THAT, CERTAINLY LOOKING
FORWARD TO HAVING A LITTLE BIT
OF TIME DURING RECESS TO
PREPARE FOR THE FALL BUDGET
SESSION, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO
ANOTHER WEEK OF WORK HERE TO
FINISH SOME PROJECTS BEFORE WE
GO UP TO RECESS.
>> THANK YOU.
REALLY QUICKLY.
I SEE ON THE FULL COUNCIL
AGENDA, RESOLUTION 31964 FOUR
THIS AFTERNOON.
THAT IS RELATED TO THE KING
COUNTY REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS
AUTHORITY AND OUR INTEREST IN
ENTERING INTO THE ASSOCIATION
OF WASHINGTON SENTRIES EMPLOYEE
BENEFIT TRUST.
IS THAT A MATTER YOUR INTENT TO
ADDRESS THIS AFTERNOON?
>> THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME
OF THAT.
YES.
I WOULD JUST SAY MORE BROADLY
TOO, LOOKING FORWARD THIS WEEK
WE HAVE ONE LAST KING COUNTY
REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY
MEETING BEFORE WE GO OFF ON
RECESS. I DO LOOK FORWARD TO
TAKING UP THAT RESOLUTION THIS
AFTERNOON.
AS WELL AS ATTENDING THAT
MEETING THIS THURSDAY.
AS WELL AS ACTUALLY, IT'S A
GOOD REMINDER, THE BOARD OF
HEALTH MEETING IS THIS THURSDAY
AS WELL WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE
HAS BEEN CANCELED.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF
THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
THOSE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS ON HIS
REPORT?
OKAY, HEARING NONE, I WOULD SAY
THAT I THINK THE RESOLUTION
THIS AFTERNOON IS PRETTY
NONCONTROVERSIAL.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER STEP IN
MOVING US FORWARD ON THIS
REGIONALIZED EFFORT AROUND
ADDRESSING THE SYSTEM'S ISSUES
RELATED TO OUR REGIONAL
RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.
LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THAT
RESOLUTION THIS AFTERNOON.
>>> NEXT UP IS COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
GOOD MORNING COLLEAGUES.
I WILL BE BRIEF.
THERE ARE NO ITEMS FROM THE
COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
COMMITTEE ON THIS AFTERNOON'S
AGENDA.
I DO HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE
CALENDAR THIS AFTERNOON.
COUNCIL BILL 119840, AND I DO
WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD FOR COSPONSORING.
WE ALSO HAVE THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS,
AND COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT IS
ALSO COSPONSORING THIS.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.
WE'LL DISCUSS THAT MORE THIS
AFTERNOON.
>>> THE OTHER ITEM IS COUNCIL
BILL 119859.
WHICH WOULD DELAY FOR ONE YEAR,
THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF A HEATING
OIL TAX THAT WAS ADOPTED BY
COUNCIL IN 2019.
THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL
ORDINANCE WAS TO TAX HEATING OIL
TO ACCELERATE THE RATE OF
CONVERSION FROM OIL TO ELECTRIC
HEAT PUMP SYSTEMS.
IN RESPONSE TO COMMUNITY
FEEDBACK ABOUT THE IMPACTS ON
THE TAX ON LOW INCOME AND
MIDDLE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS,
PARTICULARLY DURING COVID, THE
OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND
THE ENVIRONMENT IS PROPOSING WE
DELAY IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT
TAX FOR ONE YEAR.
SO, THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE
TALKING ABOUT THIS AFTERNOON.
THERE IS ALSO AN AMENDMENT TO
THE BILL.
WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SOME
REPORTING ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF
THE RULEMAKING PROCESS, AND ITS
EFFECT ON LOW INCOME AND MIDDLE
INCOME COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITY
MEMBERS.
I WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT THAT THIS AFTERNOON.
>>> LAST WEEK I PARTICIPATED IN
THE WASHINGTON LOW INCOME
HOUSING ALLIANCE STATEWIDE CALL
TO DISCUSS OUR AMENDMENT TO END
FUNDING FOR THE NAVIGATION TEAM.
THERE WERE ADVOCATES ON THE
CALL FROM ACROSS THE STATE.
MANY OF THEM WERE LOOKING FOR
MORE INFORMATION ON HOW WE DO
THAT, AS THEY ARE IN THEIR OWN
COMMUNITIES, LOOKING TO SHIFT
RESOURCES AWAY FROM POLICE
DEPARTMENTS AND INTO SERVICE
PROVIDERS AND THEIR COMMUNITY
WHO DO STREET OUTREACH AND CASE
MANAGEMENT AND SHELTER
REFERRALS.
A LOT OF INTEREST FROM FOLKS
AROUND THE STATE ON THAT.
SIMILAR TO COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS, WE ARE PAUSING OUR
WEEKLY CONSTITUENT CALLS OVER
THE NEXT TWO WEEKS DURING
RECESS, AND WE WILL SCHEDULE
THOSE AGAIN BEGINNING IN
SEPTEMBER.
I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR
RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT, THANK YOU SO
MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON
THAT REPORT?
HEARING NONE.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING COLLEAGUES.
ON TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL AGENDA
I HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS RELATED TO
THE TRANSPORTATION UTILITIES
COMMITTEE.
AS I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, THESE
ARE NONCONTROVERSIAL ITEMS PUT
DIRECTLY ONTO THE FULL COUNCIL
AGENDA.
THERE ARE ITEMS 45, SIX, SEVEN,
EIGHT, NINE, 10, 1011, 12, 13.
WHILE ITEM 15 IS ALSO
NONCONTROVERSIAL, I'LL BE
PULLING IT, AND REFERRING IT TO
THE COMMITTEE SO THAT CITY
LIGHT CAN BE AVAILABLE TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS.
ALSO HAVE ITEM 25, WHICH IS A
MAYORAL RE-APPOINTMENT OF
ECONOMIST CHRIS MEFFORD TO THE
CITY LIGHT REVIEW PANEL.
CENTRAL STAFF HAS PROVIDED
THREE MEMOS ON THE VARIOUS
NONCONTROVERSIAL ITEMS.
I RECIRCULATED THEIR MEMBERS ON
FRIDAY, SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK
AT THAT EMAIL.
CONTACT CENTRAL STAFF IF YOU
HAVE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS ON
THESE ITEMS, SO WE CAN
HOPEFULLY APPROVE THEM TODAY
APPLE COUNCIL.
AT THIS AFTERNOON'S COUNCIL
MEETING, WE ALSO CAN APPROVE
THE RESOLUTION I MENTIONED A
COUPLE WEEKS AGO TO VOICE OUR
SUPPORT FOR THE IMPORTANT
NATIONAL EFFORT TO PASS THE
GEORGE FOR JUSTICE IN POLICING
ACT.
THAT IS FEDERAL BILL HR 7120,
INTRODUCED BY CONGRESSWOMAN
KAREN BASS.
DEMOCRAT FROM CALIFORNIA.
AND SUPPORTED BY SEATTLE'S
CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.
THIS FEDERAL BILL ADDRESSES
MANY CONCERNS RAISED BY
PROTESTERS THAT ARE AUTHORIZED
FEDERAL LAW.
SUCH AS THE NEED TO RESTRICT
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY FOR POLICE
OFFICERS ACROSS THE NATION.
OUR RESOLUTION, 31963, WAS
REVIEWED BY OUR OFFICE OF
INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS,
AND I'D LIKE TO THANK MY STAFF
AND CENTRAL STAFF ARE WORKING
ON THIS RESOLUTION.
IN ADDITION, OF THE CHINA
TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITIES
COMMITTEE THIS WEDNESDAY,
AUGUST 19th, AT 9:30 A.M.
WHICH WILL BE FAIRLY BUSY.
IT WILL INCLUDE ASCOT
LEGISLATION THAT THE VICE CHAIR
WILL BE SPONSORING TO LAUNCH
ELECTRIC SCOOTER PILOT PROJECT.
THAT IS BOTH COUNCIL BILL
119867, AND COUNCIL BILL
119868.
THAT'S ALL I HAD, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
I UNDERSTAND FROM MY STAFF THAT
YOU REQUESTED THE PRESENCE OF
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF ANALYST
CALVIN WHO IS ON THE LINE.
I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO QUEUE
UP THAT CONVERSATION.
>> I WAS JUST AVAILABLE IF
THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY REMARKS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN,
NYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE
TO BE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED AS
IT RELATES TO THE VARIOUS ITEMS
THAT YOU HAVE LISTED ON THIS
AFTERNOON'S AGENDA?
>> NO, WE JUST WANT HIM
AVAILABLE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO
MANY ITEMS THAT HAVE GOT VERY
LONG TITLES, BUT A LOT OF THEM
ARE JUST TRANSFERRING SMALL
BITS OF PROPERTY OR EASEMENTS
TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY
ITEMS, JUST WANTED HIM
AVAILABLE IN CASE THERE WERE
QUESTIONS.
SPIN THE COLLEAGUES, ANY
QUESTIONS FOR CALVIN ON ANY ONE
OF THE BILLS ON THE AGENDA?
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU CHAIR PEDERSEN
FOR REQUESTING CALVIN TO JOIN
US TODAY.
I WOULD ASK OUR COLLEAGUES IF
FOLKS DO HAVE CONCERNS, OR
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCOOTER'S
BILL, THAT MIGHT BE ADDRESSED
NOW, OR WE ENSURE THE WE GET
THOSE QUESTIONS INTO CALVIN AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE BEEN HAVING THIS
DISCUSSION FOR SO LONG, THAT WE
ARE AT A POINT WHERE GOING INTO
úCOUNCIL RECESS WE'LL BE NEEDIN
TO MAKE -- THE CITY WILL BE
NEEDED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
ENSURING THAT YOUR QUESTIONS
ARE ANSWERED IN A TIMELY
FASHION, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
>> I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS
A CALL TO COUNCILMEMBERS FOR
ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY
RELATED TO THE BILL ABOUT
SCOOTER MOBILITY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
CALVIN RELATED TO THAT BILL?
I'M NOT SEEING OR HEARING ANY.
COLLEAGUES, IF YOU DO HAVE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BILL, AND
HEAR FROM COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS, IT IS HIS STRONG
DESIRE THAT THOSE QUESTIONS AND
CONCERNS BE LIFTED UP WITH
CALVIN BEFORE OUR 2:00 MEETING.
SINCE HE HAS EXPRESSED SOME
STRONG INTEREST IN THAT BILL,
I'M ASSUMING HE WOULD ALSO LIKE
TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO REACH
OUT TO HIM IN THE EVENT YOU DO
HAVE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS
ABOUT THAT BILL.
OBVIOUSLY THE CHAIR OF
TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITIES
COMMITTEE IS ALSO AVAILABLE.
IS THAT AN ACCURATE
CHARACTERIZATION?
>> YOU FOCUSED MY REMARKS IN A
VERY EXCELLENT WAY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> I'M TRYING TO MAKE YOU ALL
PROUD AS YOUR COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
BY GETTING TO IT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
ANY QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES?
OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CALVIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING ON
THE LINE.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO HANG UP AND
GO ABOUT YOUR DAY.
PLEASE DO LET COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS OR PEDERSEN KNOW IF
THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR LAST-
MINUTE CONCERNS THAT ARISE AS A
RESULT OF THE SCOOTER BILL OR
ANY OF THE OTHER LEGISLATIVE
ITEMS RELATED TO THE
TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITIES
COMMITTEE.
THANKS FOR BEING WITH US THIS
MORNING.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
>>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN?
HEARING NONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND
QUICKLY GO THROUGH MY REPORT.
COLLEAGUES, OF COURSE THERE IS
NO GOVERNANCE AND EDUCATION
MEETING FOR THIS MONTH.
OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED
GOVERNANCE AND EDUCATION
MEETING WOULD HAVE OCCURRED I
BELIEVE DURING RECESS.
WE WILL NOT BE DOING THAT.
ON TODAY'S INTRODUCTION AND
REFERRAL CALENDAR, WE HAVE A
NUMBER OF PROPOSED NEW
APPOINTMENTS AND ONE
REAPPOINTMENT.
I WILL ADDRESS THE REAPPOINTMENT
. THAT IS RELATED TO THE
FAMILIES, EDUCATION, AND
PROMINENT LEVEE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE.
WE ALSO HAVE ON THE
INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL
CALENDAR, MATERIALS FOR THE
RECONFIRMATION OF THE DIRECTOR
OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
AND EARLY LEARNING.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU WHO
SUBMITTED QUESTIONS FOR THE
CONSIDERATION OF THE
REAPPOINTMENT AND RECONFIRMATION
OF THE DIRECTOR.
THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN
ANSWERED AND ARE INCLUDED IN
THE APPOINTMENT PACKAGE THAT IS
NOW POSTED PUBLICLY IN
REGISTRAR AND AVAILABLE ON THE
INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL
CALENDAR IN PARTICULAR FOR THIS
AFTERNOON.
AGAIN, MY STAFF HAS SHARED
THOSE MATERIALS DIRECTLY WITH
MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT AND
EDUCATION COMMITTEE, BUT FOR
THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT ON THE
COMMITTEE, THEY ARE PUBLICLY
ACCESSIBLE NOW.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY
OF YOU MAY REACH OUT TO MY
OFFICE. WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO
TAKE UP THE APARTMENTS FOR THE
FAMILY EDUCATION PRESCHOOL AND
PROMINENT LEVEE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE, AND THE
REAPPOINTMENT OF THE DIRECTOR.
WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ALL
OF THOSE MATTERS UP AFTER
RESOURCE ON TODAY, SEPTEMBER
8th.
PLEASE TO GET US ANY QUESTIONS
OR CONCERNS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE
EDUCATION RELATED APPOINTMENTS
AND REAPPOINTMENTS BEFORE THEN.
FOR TODAY'S FULL COUNSELOR, I
HAVE TWO ITEMS FROM THE
GOVERNANCE AND EDUCATION
COMMITTEE.
BOTH ARE APPOINTMENTS TO THE
SEATTLE ETHICS AND ELECTIONS
COMMISSION.
ONE IS A MAYORAL APPOINTMENT.
THE OTHER IS A CITY COUNCIL
APPOINTMENT.
THEY BOTH BRING A LOT OF
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE WITH
THEM.
ONE IS BEING LISTED AS A NEW
APPOINTMENT, ONLY BECAUSE HE IS
BEING PUT FORWARD BY THE CITY
COUNCIL.
HE HAS BEEN SERVING ON THE
SEATTLE ETHICS AND ELECTIONS
COMMITTEE AS A MAYORAL
APPOINTEE, BUT WE ARE SWITCHING
THEM OVER TO A COUNCIL
APPOINTMENT AT THIS JUNCTURE.
I WILL SEE MORE ABOUT THESE
CANDIDATES THIS AFTERNOON.
LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SUPPORT OF
THESE APARTMENTS TO THE SEATTLE
ETHICS AND ELECTIONS COMMISSION.
>>> ALSO ON THIS AFTERNOON'S
AGENDA, IS A RESOLUTION THAT IS
PROFFERED BY COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ, REGARDING NEXT STEPS ON
THE LID ASSESSMENTS AND
APPEALS RELATED TO THE
WATERFRONT.
I AM REQUIRED TO SAY A WHOLE
BUNCH OF LEGALESE RIGHT NOW,
WHICH I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS AND WILL APPRECIATE AS
THE LAND USE CHAIR.
I'M ABOUT TO HIT YOU WITH SOME
QUASIJUDICIAL LINGO.
SO AGAIN COLLEAGUES, CITY
COUNCIL RULES FOR QUASIJUDICIAL
PROCEDURES DATE THAT THE MATTER
OF AN APPEAL OF AN INDIVIDUAL'S
FINAL ASSESSMENT FOR A LOCAL
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS PENDING
WHEN THE HEARING EXAMINER HAS
FILED A RECOMMENDATION ON THE
FINAL ASSESSMENT RULE THAT THE
CITY CLERK.
IN THIS INSTANCE, THE COUNCIL
MADE THE MANAGER PENDING,
EARLIER THAN REQUIRED AND THE
RULES, IN JULY OF 2018.
COINCIDING WITH THE FIRST DAY
OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
FORMATION OF THE WATERFRONT LAD.
IT WILL REMAIN A QUASIJUDICIAL
MATTER UNTIL THE FINAL
TERMINATION OF ALL JUDICIAL
APPEALS OF THE COUNCIL DECISION
ON THE FINAL ASSESSMENT RULE
FOR THE WATERFRONT LAD.
WHILE THIS MATTER IS PENDING,
AS A QUASIJUDICIAL ACTION
BEFORE COUNCIL, NO MEMBER OF
THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ENGAGE IN
ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.
THIS MEANS THAT COUNCILMEMBERS
MAY NOT HAVE ANY DIRECT OR
INDIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH A
PROPONENT, OPENER, OR PARTY OF
RECORD, ABOUT THE MERITS OF A
PARTICULAR ASSESSMENT OUTSIDE A
COUNCIL HEARING OR MEETING
CONSIDERING THE WATERFRONT LAD.
THE COUNCIL MAY NOT APPROVE THE
FINAL ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE
FINAL LAD WITHOUT REVIEWING AND
DECIDING UPON APPEALS OF A
HEARING EXAMINER'S
RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE FINAL
ASSESSMENT ROLE.
ACCORDING TO RCW 35.4 4.870,
AND SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE 20.0
4.091, BOTH REQUIRE THE COUNCIL
TO HEAR ANY APPEALS FROM THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE HEARING
EXAMINER ON THE FINAL
ASSESSMENT RULE FOR FINAL
IMPROVEMENT DECISION.
COUNCIL RULES ALSO STATE THAT
THE COUNCIL MAY DELEGATE THE
APPEAL REVIEW TO A COMMITTEE,
AND THE COMMITTEE WOULD THEN
MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE
FULL COUNCIL, AND THE
RESOLUTION THAT WE ARE GOING TO
CONSIDER THIS AFTERNOON RELATED
TO THE WATERFRONT LAD, PROVIDES
THAT THE COUNCIL'S INTENTION TO
REVERSE THE APPEALS TO THE
PUBLIC.
EXCUSE ME, THE RESOLUTION WE
ARE CONSIDERING THIS AFTERNOON
WILL PROVIDE THAT THE COUNCIL
AND TENDS TO REFER ANY APPEALS
TO THE PUBLIC ASSETS AND
NATIVES COMMUNITY COMMITTEE.
THIS RESOLUTION WE WILL BE
CONSIDERING AT THIS FULL
COUNCIL MEETING THIS AFTERNOON
AT 2:00 DELEGATE TEMPORARY
AUTHORITY TO THE CITY CLERK TO
MEET THE DEADLINE TO SET THE
TIME AND PLACE FOR APPEALS, IN
CASE THE DEADLINE OCCURS DURING
SUMMER RECESS FROM AUGUST 24th
THROUGH SEPTEMBER 7th.
ANY APPEALS OF THIS
RECOMMENDATION MUST BE FILED
WITH THE CLERK WITHIN 14 DAYS.
OF THE HEARING EXAMINER'S
FILING, AND IF A VALID APPEAL
IS FILED BEFORE THE DEADLINE,
THEN THE COUNCILS QUASIJUDICIAL
ROLE STATES ARE REFERRED
COMMITTEE HAS 15 DAYS FOR NEW
RECEIPT OF APPEALS TO SET THE
TIME AND PLACE FOR THE HEARING.
SO, VERY COMPLICATED STUFF.
HAVING TO CARRY THE WATER HERE
FOR COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ, OUR
GOOD COLLEAGUE COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ ON THIS ISSUE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT
THIS AFTERNOON'S RESOLUTION,
WHICH IS LARGELY DESIGNED TO
SET OUT THIS PROCESS AS I HAVE
JUST DESCRIBED IT.
SO THAT WE ARE MEETING OUR
QUASIJUDICIAL OBLIGATIONS, AND
RELATED DEADLINES.
AS A RELATES TO THE WATERFRONT
LAD.
I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU REACH
OUT DIRECTLY TO OUR COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF WHICH IS OUR
POINT ON ALL THINGS RELATED TO
THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
I WANT TO THANK ERIC FOR MAKING
SURE THAT I HAD THAT
INFORMATION ACCURATE AND
AVAILABLE TO ME TO SHARE WITH
ALL OF YOU, AND MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC.
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ WILL BE
AVAILABLE, AND MEMBERS OF HER
TEAM WILL BE AVAILABLE TO EACH
OF YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS RELATED TO HOW WE ARE
MOVING FRWARD WITH THE FINAL
ASSESSMENT ROLE ISSUES THAT THE
HEARING EXAMINER IS CURRENTLY
CONSIDERING RELATED TO THE
WATERFRONT LAD.
MOUTHFUL.
COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS ON THAT RESOLUTION FOR
CONSIDERATION THIS AFTERNOON?
ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE
GOOD OF THE ORDER BEFORE WE
ADJOURN?
OKAY, HEARING AND SEEING THEM,
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR
YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION THIS
MORNING.
WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND
DID DURING THIS MORNING'S
MEETING AS THIS CONCLUDES OUR
AGENDA.
WE WILL BE SEEING YOU ALL AT
2:00 P.M.
THIS AFTERNOON VIA ZOOM.
FOR OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED
FULL COUNCIL MEETING.
UNTIL THEN, HAVE A GOOD
AFTERNOON.
BYE-BYE.