>>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO THE SEATTLE CITY
COUNCIL SELECT BUDGET COUNCIL
MEETING ON NOVEMBER 19th, 2020.
I AM CHAIRMAN MOSQUEDA.
WITH THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE.
>> LEWIS .
>> PRESENT.
>> MORALES .
>> HERE.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> SAWANT.
>> HERE.
>> STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> HERE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> JUAREZ .
>> HERE.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
SEVEN PRESENT.
>> EXCELLENT.
GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD AND
PEDERSEN ARE EXCUSED FOR THE
FIRST PART OF THE MEETING.
THEY ARE AT THE ANNOUNCEMENT
ABOUT THE WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE
AND I APPRECIATE THEIR
REPRESENTATION THERE.
WE WILL WELCOME THEM WHEN THEY
COME BACK.
AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE OFF OF THE AGENDA, MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE
NO MOTIONS FOR AMENDMENTS TO BE
ADDED TO THE AGENDA.
THERE MAY BE SUBSTITUTES THAT
FOLKS HAVE BUT NO AMENDMENTS TO
ADD THIS MORNING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE
AGENDA AS PROPOSED.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE A AGENDA HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED.
AND SINCE THERE ARE NO
AMENDMENTS IN FRONT OF US, WE
HAVE AN ADOPTED AGENDA.
LESS THERE IS AN ADOPTION.
>> EXCELLENT.
-- UNLESS THERE IS AN OBJECTIVE.
>> THERE ARE 27 PEOPLE PRESENT
AND WE WILL OFFER TWO MINUTES
EACH.
IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL TIMES
YOU ARE WELCOME TO SEE THAT.
IF YOU HAVE NOT ABLE TO SAY
EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED YOU
CAN ALWAYS SEND US YOUR
COMMENTS AS WELL.
WE ARE GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC
COMMENT AND ALLOW FOLKS TO HAVE
THOSE TWO MINUTES.
YOU WILL HEAR THE TIME AT 10
SECONDS TOWARDS THE END OF YOUR
ALLOTTED TIME.
PLEASE DO NOTE THAT IS YOUR
SIGNAL TO GO AHEAD AND WRAP IT
UP.
BEFORE YOU BEGIN SPEAKING, YOU
WILL HEAR, YOU HAVE BEEN UNMUTE
IN.
THAT IS YOUR PROMPT TO THEN HIT
STAR 6. THEN YOU CAN BEGIN
SPEAKING.
PLEASE BEGIN STATING YOUR NAME
AND THE ITEM THAT YOU ARE
SPEAKING TO.
WE WILL CALL THREE SPEAKERS AT
A TIME IN THE ORDER IN WHICH
THEY APPEAR ON THE SIGN IN
SHEET.
WITH THAT, PUBLIC COMMENT IS
OPEN.
COLLEAGUES, THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT EVERY
MEETING AND APPRECIATE THE
COMMITMENT TO MAKING SURE THAT
WE CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM FOLKS
IN OUR LAST FEW DAYS HERE.
THE FIRST THREE PEOPLE ARE
BRIAN CLARK, HOWARD DALE AND
SOPHIA H. GOOD MORNING, BRIAN.
>> HELLO COUNCIL, MY NAME IS
BRIAN CLARK . I AM A HONE OMER
IN -- HOMEOWNER IN BALLARD.
>> AT THE PEAK OF THE BRUTALLY
VIOLENT POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY
COMMITTED TO DEFUNDING SPD TO
50%.
NOW WE ARE HERE AND YOU ARE ARE
COMING UP SHORT OF YOUR
COMMITMENT.
DISCUSSING THE 17% CUT AND
WHETHER TO HIRE ADDITIONAL
COSTS NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS A GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT.
I WAS AT A TOWN HALL THIS WEEK
WITH OVER 100 DISCIPLINES AND
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS WAS NOT
THERE.
DO BLACK LIVES MATTER TO YOU
ANDREW?
THE PD MARK SAUER NEIGHBORS AND
BUILDS BARRICADES IN OUR
STREETS.
THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER DECREE
SINCE 2012 AND HEAVY PUBLIC
SCRUTINY YET THERE IS NEWS
EVERY WEEK ABOUT THEM HARASSING
THE COMMUNITY.
SPT DOES NOT REPRESENT SAFETY.
THEY ARE A THREAT TO THE SAFETY
OF OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY CONSUME MUCH FUNDING
THAT COULD DO MORE FOR THE
COMMUNITY.
THAT ARE ARE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE
MEASURES THAT WILL WORK IF YOU
HAVE THE COURAGE TO FOLLOW
THROUGH ON THE COMMITMENT YOU
MADE THIS SUMMER.
HOUSING, EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE.
WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE A NURSE IN
ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE HAD PPE SHORTAGES THIS
YEAR AND THOUSANDS ARE STARVING
IN THE COLD RAIN.
BUT SPD HAS FUNDING FOR WEAPONS
AND TEARGAS.
FUND THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND
DROP AGAINST. I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, HOWARD.
>> GOOD MORNING.
HOWARD.
GOOD MORNING.
HOWARD DALE FROM DISTRICT 7. ON
POLICE ACCOUNT ABILITY.
YESTERDAY, IN A STUNNING
DISPLAY OF GAS LIGHTING, THE
COUNCIL, ALL EXCEPT FOR COUNCIL
MEMBER SAWANT, VOTED AGAINST
EVEN EXPLORING A TRULY CIVILIAN
FORM OF POLICE ACCOUNT ABILITY.
WHICH, JUST A FEW DAYS AGO WAS
OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED INTO
EFFECT IN OAKLAND, COLUMBUS,
KYLE, PORTLAND, PHILADELPHIA,
AND OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE
U.S. IN THE VOTE YESTERDAY THE
COUNCIL MADE CLEAR THAT INSTEAD
OF STEPPING FORWARD POST GEORGE
FLOYD, THEY ARE CHOOSING TO
ACTIVELY RETREAT BACK TO 2017
AND SOME FANTASY THAT 2017
POLICE ACCOUNT ABILITY
ORDINATES HAS BEEN FULLY
IMPLEMENT IT.
THEN THINGS WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
DESPITE THE REALITY THAT POLICE
KILLINGS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR AND
ABUSES OF PROTESTERS HAVE BEEN
CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE LAST
10 YEARS.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD FAILED
THE FAILURE OF LEASING IS DUE
TO THE CITY NOT ADOPTING THE
RECOMMENDATIONS.
YET SHE CANNOT POINT TO A
SINGLE RECOMMENDATION
IMPLEMENTED.
THAT WOULD REDUCE THE DEATH AND
ABUSES OF THE LAST DECADE.
LET ME MAKE THAT REALLY CLEAR,
IF ALL THE SUGGESTIONS AND
RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE CPC HAD
BEEN FOLLOWED, INSTEAD OF BEING
HURT WITH BLAST BALLS, AND
BATONS, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN,
PROTESTERS WOULD HAVE BEEN
INJURED BY TEARGAS AND BICYCLES.
AGAIN, THE COMMUNITY LEASE
COMMISSION HAS FAILED FOR SEVEN
YEARS TO HOLD PUBLIC FORUMS,
PROHIBITED PUBLIC COMMENT AND
FAILED TO LOOK AT POLICE
KILLINGS RECENTLY.
PLEASE, COUNCIL MEMBERS,
HERBOLD AND GONZALEZ, DO NOT
LET YOUR PRIDE STAND IN THE WAY
OF GETTING ACCOUNTABILITY THAT
PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA, OHIO,
TEXAS, OREGON, PENNSYLVANIA
HAVE GOTTEN.
>> OKAY.
THANKS.
AS A REMINDER WE ARE STAYING
AWAY FRM -- OF ANY COUNCIL
MEMBER.
SOPHIA IS NEXT BUT NOT LISTED
AS PRESENT.
IF WE SEE YOU JOINING WE WILL
GET BACK TO YOU.
PLEASE CALL AND.
ALSO WELCOMING COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN.
THANKS FOR DIALING IN.
I KNOW THAT YOU ARE EXCUSED FOR
THE BRIDGE ANNOUNCEMENT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THE NEXT THREE ARE TYLER X,
GOOD MORNING TYLER.
>> THANKS.
THIS IS TYLER AND I JUST WANTED
TO TALK ABOUT DEFUNDING THE
POLICE AND TAXING THE RICH.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE
COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE WELL AWARE
THAT WE STILL WANT TO DEFUNDING
SPD BY 50% AND WHEN WE SAID
DEFINED HHA TO FUND BY 50%, WE
MET DEFINED BY 50%.
JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT AS
MANY PEOPLE OUT IN THE STREETS
RIGHT NOW, DOES NOT MEAN THAT
WE CHANGED HER MIND ABOUT THE
ISSUE.
WE WILL NOT CHANGE OUR MIND BY
THE TIME OF THE NEXT ELECTION
EITHER.
TO BE CLEAR WE CONTINUE TO
DEFUND THE BLOATED POLICE
BUDGET BY 50% LIKE MANY OF YOU
AGREE TO DO EARLY THIS YEAR.
AND USE THAT MONEY TO FUND
COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING
THROUGH A PARTICIPATORY BUDGET
PROCESS.
WE ALSO WANTED OVERSIGHT BOARD
WITH POWERS OVER THE POLICE
LIKE THE PREVIOUS CALLER SAID.
THIS IS EXTREMELY POPULAR ALL
OVER THE COUNTRY.
AND WE WANT NO HIRING OF ANY
NEW COPS EITHER.
ALSO, WE WOULD NOT REALLY NEED
AS MANY POLICE IF WE JUST
REJECT THE BUDGET CUTS AND
COULD JUST TAKE CARE OF
PEOPLE'S ECONOMIC NEEDS.
WE CAN DO THIS BY INCREASING
THE AMAZON TAX ON MAJOR
CORPORATIONS INCLUDING AMAZON,
WHICH HAS DRAMATICALLY ENRICHED
THEMSELVES DURING THE PANDEMIC.
JEFF PESOS'S PERSONAL WEALTH
ALONE HAS GONE UP BY BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS.
AND AT THE SAME TIME WE HEAR
ARGUING OVER A FEW HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLARS IN LOST TAX
REVENUE.
CLEARLY WE DO NOT TAX THE RISK
-- RICH ENOUGH AND IT WILL ONLY
GET WORSE IF WE DO NOT HAVE
PROGRESSIVE TAX MEASURES.
WE NEED TO TAX PROGRESSIVELY.
I WOULD LIKE TO END WITH A QUOTE
BY STACY DAVIS GATES, WHO HAS
HAD MULTIPLE TIMES, AND WRITE
THAT YOU ARE NOT BROKE IF YOU
ARE TAXING THE RICH.
THANKS.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
AND GOOD MORNING, GABRIEL.
>> HELLO.
MY NAME IS GABRIEL.
I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT 4 AND
A MEMBER OF SOCIALIST
ALTERNATIVE.
IS THE HEIGHT OF THE GEORGE
FLOYD MOVEMENT, SEVEN OF THE
NINE COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTED TO
DEFUND THE PD BY 50% AND TODAY
THE COUNCIL IS SET TO PASS A
BUDGET DOING JUST THE OPPOSITE.
MAKING CUTS TO PARKS, ROADS,
COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND
MAINTAINING THE BLOATED POLICE
BUDGET.
IT IS NO COINCIDENCE THE ONLY
COUNCIL MEMBER STILL PUTTING
FORWARD AMENDMENTS TO DEFUND
THE SPD IS ALSO THE ONLY
INDEPENDENT SOCIALIST.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
CLEARLY PARTY POLITICIANS ARE
FUNDAMENTALLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR
OUR MOVEMENTS.
NOT JUST LOCALLY BUT
NATIONALLY.
THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT
SEEKS TO BLAME THE BLACK LIVES
MATTER MATTER FOR THE LOSSES.
WE NEED A NEW PARTY BY AND FOR
WORKING PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT
COMPROMISE WITH THE SYSTEM AND
WILL, DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR
IT, YESTERDAY IN ATTEMPTING TO
JUSTIFY WHY SHE WILL NOT
SUPPORT COMMUNITY CONTROL OVER
POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT REGULARLY
KILLS OUR BLACK AND BROWN
NEIGHBORS AND HER GASES AN
ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT GONZALEZ SAYS THAT I
AM OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE IT
AGREES THAT THE CURRENT SYSTEM
IS BROKEN.
IT IS BROKEN AND WE WILL NOT
PRETEND OTHERWISE.
THIS IS GAS LIGHTING AT THE
HIGHEST ORDER.
CLAIMING THE SYSTEM IS NOT
BROKEN.
LEAVING IT IS NOT AN AUSTERITY
BUDGET, DOES NOT MAKE IT SO.
IN A PANDEMIC, THYMIC GREATNESS
AND RACIAL JUSTICE RECKONING,
WE MUST URGE INDEPENDENT
POLITICS FOR WORKING PEOPLE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
AND TO BE CLEAR ALSO, THERE IS
NOT $200 MILLION CUTS FOR PARKS
AND ROADS.
THE NEXT PERSON IS MD.
>> I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT
7 AND CALLING ON THE ENTIRE
CITY COUNCIL TO FOLLOW THE LEAD
OF ORGANIZATIONS TO DEFUND SPD
BY AT LEAST 50% AND INVEST THE
MONEY BACK INTO BIPOC
COMMUNITIES.
I WITNESSED FIRSTHAND
THROUGHOUT MY LIFE THE INHERENT
RACISM OF SPD TO MY FAMILY,
COMMUNITY, AND PEOPLE I LOVE.
NOTHING HURT MORE THAN THE PAIN
AND WORRY OF MY PARENTS VOICE
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PHONE
WHEN I CALLED THEM FROM JAIL
THAT SPD WRONGFULLY ARRESTED
AND PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED ME.
MY FELLOW PEOPLE OF COLOR ON
THE COUNCIL, YOU SAID IT IS A
SYMBOL OF HOPE TO OUR COMMUNITY
WISHFULLY THINKING HE WOULD
FIGHT FOR YOUR PEOPLE.
HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT YOUR
CONSTITUENTS AND CONTINUE TO
GIVE ONE FOURTH TO A DEPARTMENT
THAT HARM AND KILL YOUR PEOPLE
EVERYDAY.
HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT YOUR
CHILDREN AND TELL THEM THAT YOU
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ABOLISH
A RACIST AND ABUSIVE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND INSTEAD ONLY CUT
THE BUDGET BY 17%.
WHILE YOU'RE CHILDREN'S TEACHERS
SCRAPE MONEY TOGETHER FOR
SCHOOL SUPPLIES.
HOW CAN YOU GIVE MONEY TO
PEOPLE WHO YOUR BROWN CHILDREN
WILL GROW UP FEARING.
THIS IS MORE ON YOU WHITE
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT YOUR
BIPOC COLLEAGUES.
YOU ALL KNOW FOR A FACT THAT
THESE ARE NOT EXAGGERATIONS AND
BY CONTINUING TO IGNORE YOUR
COMMUNITY AND LOOKING AWAY AT
THE BLOOD ON YOUR STREET YOU
REMAIN COMPLICIT IN THE
ATROCITIES.
ONE WRONGFUL DEATH SHOULD BE
MORE THAN ENOUGH TO CONVINCE
ANYONE.
úHOW MANY MORE NEED TO DIE FOR
YOU TO CARE ENOUGH?
DOES IT NEED TO BE YOUR OWN
CHILDREN TO BE ASSAULTED OR
KILLED BY SPD FOR YOU TO DO
SOMETHING?
DEFUND SPD BY 50%, AT LEAST.
NOT ONE PENNY LESS.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
THE NEXT PERSON IS LUCINDA
FOLLOWED BY NIKITA AND BAILEY.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM FROM THE GREAT ISLAND,
DISTRICT 1. I SERVE ON THE
ADVISORY COUNCIL AND COFOUNDED
THE NORTHWEST TINY HOUSE
VILLAGE.
I AM CALLING TO URGE YOU TO SHIP
$9 MILLION AWAY FROM SPD TO
FUND COMMUNITY ALTERNATIVES TO
911.
PLEASE UP THE INVESTMENT TO
TRAN30 FOR COMMUNITIES.
BE BOLD BY ADOPTING A
SOLIDARITY BUDGET THAT REFLECTS
OUR SHARED VISION OF A MORE
EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE SEATTLE
WITH LESS POLICE VIOLENCE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, HERBOLD, THANK
YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN
SUPPORT OF TINY HOUSE VILLAGES,
AS WELL AS ALL MEMBERS WHO HAVE
SEEN THE LIGHT WITH THIS
CRUCIAL PROGRAM.
LIVES HAVE BEEN TRANSFORMED
WHEN PEOPLE ARE GIVEN A SPACE,
WARM AND SUPPORTIVE PLACE TO
LIVE TO GET THEIR LIFE BACK
TOGETHER AND REJOIN SOCIETY.
HIRED COUNCIL TO SUPPORT AS
MANY TINY HOUSE VILLAGES AS
POSSIBLE TO EASE THE SURGE OF
HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY.
PLEASE SUPPORT THE EXPANSION OF
OUTREACH PROGRAMS LIKE REACH
AND LEHI, FOR HELPING OUR
NEIGHBORS.
AND PLEASE REACH TWO PEOPLE
LIVING IN VEHICLES.
MORE AND MORE FOLKS ARE LIVING
OUT OF THEIR CARS, AND THEY
HAVE THE HIGHEST LIKELIHOOD OF
GETTING BACK ON THEIR FEET WITH
SUPPORT AND ACCESS TO RESOURCES.
PLEASE EXPAND THE PURPLE BAG
PROGRAM TO 30 SITES AND BE
STREET CLEAN PROGRAMS.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES FOR THESE PROGRAMS.
THEY ARE WORKING.
I YIELD MY TIME.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
TO CLARIFY, THE PROGRAM WAS
FULLY FUNDED YESTERDAY.
IN THE PACKAGE THAT WE
APPROVED.
SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS.
MORNING, NIKITA.
>> GOOD MORNING.
COUNCIL, I LIVE IN DISTRICT 2,
AND I WANT TO FIRST START BY
SAYING THAT UNDERLYING THE
MOVEMENT THIS SUMMER IS AN
UNDERSTANDING THAT POLICING IS
AN INTERCEPTED FORM OF PUBLIC
SAFETY.
IT CANNOT BE FIXED THROUGH
TRAINING AND WILL NOT BE FIXED
THROUGH OVERSIGHT.
IT WILL NOT BE FIXED BY
ADDITIONAL ACCOUNT ABILITY
MEASURES.
EVEN WITH THESE THINGS IN
PLACE, BLACK PEOPLE CONTINUE TO
BE MURDERED BY THE SPD.
CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN
OVERSIGHT, RATHER THAN
DEFUNDING IS PREDICATED UPON
THE IDEA THAT POLICE WILL
CONTINUE TO EXIST, RATHER THAN
BUILDING A COMMUNITY BASED,
COMMUNITY LED PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY MODEL THAT DOES NOT
PUNITIVE AND OPPRESSIVE MODES
OF CONTROL.
AS A BLACK COMMUNITY MEMBER
AND ORGANIZER I WANT TO DEFUND
THE POLICE AND BUILD A PUBLIC
SAFETY SYSTEM THAT WORKS FOR
EVERYONE THAT MAKES POLICE
OBSOLETE AND EVENTUALLY LEADS
TO TOTAL ABOLITION.
I AND MANY IN MY COMMUNITY
CANNOT FOR ANY REASON CALL THE
POLICE FOR HELP BECAUSE IT MAY
ACTUALLY RESULT IN DEATH.
WHAT WE NEED IS FOR THE CITY TO
DEFUND THE POLICE AND INVEST IN
BLACK COMMUNITIES.
MEET ASIC NEEDS BECAUSE BASIC
NEEDS ARE MET AND THEN QUOTE
UNQUOTE CRIMES DECREASE.
BUILDING A COMMUNITY LED
PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM PRIORITIZES
PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION
SHOULD BE THE GOAL.
WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY NEW COPS
AND I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO
PUT IN PLACE A HIRING FREEZE.
THIS IS AN EASY WAY TO DECREASE
THE SIZE OF THE FORCE AND MOVE
MONEY INTO SMALL INCREMENTS IN
COMMUNITIES FOR BUILDING
COMMUNITY-BASED AND LED
RESPONSES HARM.
WE NEED LARGER CUTS AND LARGER
INVESTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY
AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU OF
WHAT YOU COMMITTED TO IN JULY.
YOU COMMITTED TO DEFUND THE
POLICE BY AT LEAST 50%.
INVEST IN BLACK COMMUNITIES AND
FREE ALL PROTESTERS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME AS A
VOTER THAT YOU HOLD TO THIS.
OTHERWISE I HOPE YOU ARE NOT IN
YOUR SEAT AGAIN.
>> THE NEXT PERSON IS BAILEY
FREEMAN.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS BAILEY FREEMAN AND I
WAS SPEAKING TO ITEM NUMBER
150, TO ADD $50,000 FOR THE
OPPOSITE LABOR STANDARDS, FOR
AUGMENTATIONS OF DOMESTIC
WORKERS STANDARDS BOARD.
I AM HERE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF
THE STANDARDS BOARD AND CHAIR
OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR
PORTABLE BENEFITS.
I AM A WORKER REPRESENTATIVE ON
THE BOARD AND THANK YOU ALL FOR
CONSIDERING THE ADDITION FOR
THE 2021 BUDGET.
THE FUNDING IS A CRITICAL FIRST
STEP IN IMPLANTING OUR FUTURE
RECOMMENDATIONS DUE IN MARCH,
WHICH WILL UPHOLD THE SAFETY
AND RIGHTS OF DOMESTIC WORKERS,
A VULNERABLE COMMUNITY IN OUR
CITY.
THIS IS ONLY FOR STEP.
PLEASE NOTE THAT WE WILL RETURN
TO COUNCIL LATER THE WINTER
FOR A REQUEST IN THE
SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET.
FUNDING THE RECOMMENDATIONS
WILL INCREASE RECOMMENDATION
AND OUTREACH FOR THE DOMESTIC
WORKERS ORDINATES.
AT THIS POINT OLS HAS DONE AN
ADMIRABLE JOB WITH CONNECTING
WORKERS BUT ONLY REACHING 3% OF
THE ESTIMATED 33,000 WORKERS IN
SEATTLE.
IT WILL ALSO HELP WITH PORTABLE
BENEFITS THE WORKERS HAVE BASIC
BENEFITS SUCH AS PTO AND SICKLY.
DOMESTIC WORKERS HAVE BEEN ON
THE FRONTLINE OF THE PANDEMIC
AND EXPOSE THEMSELVES TO
CONSIDERABLE RISK SAYS THEY
TAKE CARE OF CHILDREN, TEND TO
THE ELDERLY AND MAINTAIN
PEOPLE'S HOMES.
THANK YOU FOR MAINTAINING THE
FUNDING AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE
THE CITY HONORS THEIR SACRIFICES
TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN ACCESS
THEIR BASIC RIGHTS AS WORKERS.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE NEXT THREE ARE ERIN ABDEL
FREEH, JACOB S, AND MIA R.
AARON, GOOD MORNING.
>> I. MY NAME IS AARON AND I
WORK AT THE CAPITAL HOPE DEEP
BOW DISTRICT AND I HAVE DONE
CAPITOL HILL FOR ONE DECADE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEND THANK YOU
TO COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ
WRITING 100,000 TO THE
S.D.O.T.
BUDGET, FOR A PUBLIC LIFE STUDY
OF CAPITOL HILL.
THANK YOU TO CAPITAL MEMBERS
SAWANT AND -- FOR COSPONSORING
THE ITEM.
80% OF THE RENTERS ARE THE
RESIDENTS WITH MORE THAN 25,000
RENTERS AND THE NUMBER THAT IS
ON SHELTERED IS GROWING
STEADILY.
WE ARE LIVING IN A TIME OF
CRISIS.
A PANDEMIC THAT SHOWS NO SIGN
OF RELENTING, A HOMELESSNESS
CRISIS WHICH HAS FORCED PEOPLE
TO LIVE IN PUBLIC.
AND CLIMATE CHANGE, WHICH
THREATENS THE ECOSYSTEM, THE
AIR, THE HEALTH, AND MAKES
LIVING IN PUBLIC EVEN LESS
SAFE.
OUR PUBLIC SPACES ARE ALREADY
BEING CALLED UPON TO SHOULDER
PRESSURES BEYOND OUR MEANS.
AND THEY NEED TO DO MORE,
STILL.
AS PROTESTS, WHICH FOCUS ON
CAPITOL HILL AND CAL ANDERSON
PARK THIS SUMMER, HAVE
UNDERLINED, OUR PUBLIC SPACES
NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF
WELCOMING BLACK, INDIGENOUS,
PEOPLE OF COLOR AND NOT JUST
WELCOME BUT SUPPORT EXPERIENCES
OF BELONGING.
AS GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT
CONTINUE TO THREATEN SMALL
BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS, AND MENTORS WITH
DISPLACEMENT, THESE NEW
OPPORTUNITIES ON THE HORIZON TO
DO BETTER AND WE NEED TO DO IT
AS A COMMUNITY.
LIKE LIFE STUDY OF CAPITOL HILL
LED BY THE CAPITOL HILL ECO-
DISTRICT, WHICH EXIST TO
PROMOTE A SOCIALLY EQUITABLE AND
ENVIRONMENTALLY RESILIENT AND
CULTURALLY VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD
WOULD PROMOTE HEALTH AND
WELLNESS AND ENVIRONMENTAL
RESILIENCE FOR AN INCLUSIVE
COMMUNITY SO THE CO-CREATION OF
LIBERATED PUBLIC SPACES.
THANK YOU.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
JACOB, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JACOB AND I AM
SPEAKING ON THE HALF OF THE
BOOK WORKERS UNION, AN
INDEPENDENT UNION ON CAPITOL
HILL.
WE STAND WITH OVER 1000 SEATTLE
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
DEMANDING THE SOLIDARITY BUDGET
THAT DIVEST FROM THE ANTI-BLACK
SEATTLE PD BY AT LEAST 50% AND
INVEST IN BLACK COMMUNITIES
ENTRY PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE DEMAND THAT YOU REDIRECT SPD
HIRING BUDGET TO COMMUNITY --
COMMUNITY OF 911.
THE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR HAVE
EXPERIENCE FOR DECADES THAT
HIRING NEW POLICE OFFICERS
úWOULD BE ON THE TABLE.
WE KNOW THAT THE CULTURE OF SPD
IS ONE IN THE HISTORY OF
WHITE'S PHARMACY AND RACIST
VIOLENCE IN ANY SERVER
INVESTMENT IN THIS WILL
ENDANGER LIVES AND WELL-BEING OF
SEATTLE'S COMMUNITY OF COLOR,
ON HOUSED NEIGHBORS, QUEER AND
TRANS NEIGHBORS AND DISABLED
FOLKS.
PLEASE HELP US MOVE TOWARDS A
VISION OF AN EQUITABLE AND
INCLUSIVE SEATTLE AND NOT
FURTHER AWAY FROM IT.
THANK YOU.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
MIA, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS MIA AND I AM CALLING,
HELLO, THANK YOU FOR VALIDATING
THAT YOU CAN HEAR ME.
I AM CALLING ON THE SAME ISSUE
THAT MANY OF MY FELLOW
COMMUNITY NUMBERS HAVE BEEN
CALLING ABOUT DEFUNDING THE
SEATTLE PD BY AT LEAST 50%.
I AM A MEMBER OF 1199 NORTHWEST
AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU COUNCIL
MEMBERS RELIED ON OUR
ORGANIZATION FOR OUR
ENDORSEMENT AND FINANCIAL
CONTRIBUTIONS, AND ORGANIZING
POWER, KNOCKING ON DOORS IN
YOUR COMMUNITY.
I ECHO EVERYTHING THAT OLIVER
SAID, THAT POLICE DO NOT MAKE
OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.
AND STRONG COMMUNITY'S NEED
RESOURCES AND NOT PLEASING TO
UPLIFT AND PROTECT ONE ANOTHER.
I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT THAT NOT
ALL COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
EXPERIENCE OPPRESSION IN THE
SAME WAYS.
THE COMMITMENT WAS TO INVEST IN
BLACK COMMUNITIES.
I WANT TO UPLIFT THE DEMAND AND
YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO
BIPOC COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
>> THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SPEAKERS ARE DEREK T,
VIOLET L, AND KOLEA B. GOOD
MORNING, DEREK.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE WE LOST DEREK.
>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU WANT TO CALL BACK AND WE
WILL MAKE SURE TO GET BACK TO
YOU BEFORE WE WRAP UP.
THE MORNING, VIOLET.
JUST STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.
HELLO THERE.
>> GOOD MORNING.
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA, THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS VIOLET AND I AM THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE -- OF
WASHINGTON.
AND I AM SPEAKING TO COUNCIL
MEMBERS ABOUT THE TENANT
FUNDING.
IT IS VITAL THAT WE, WE ARE IN
THE MIDST OF A CRISIS EPIDEMIC
AND A LOT OF TENANTS RIGHT NOW
ARE MEETING ALL OF OUR HELP.
SOME OF THEM ARE STILL RECEIVING
EVICTION NOTICES AND THINGS
LIKE THAT.
AND SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE BEEN
DOING OUR PART IN TENANT
ORGANIZING AND HELPING TENANTS
NOT GET EVICTED.
AND SO, I ALSO WANT TO THANK
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS FOR
LEADING THE WAY IN, GETTING THE
EXTRA FUNDING, FOR TENANTS,
THE TENANTS ORGANIZING.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
MOSQUEDA.
THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WAS
REALLY TOUCHED BY SOME OF THE
EQUITABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY,
EQUITABLE IN EVERYTHING, PEOPLE
OF COLOR HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF
EVERYTHING.
AND IT IS IN OUR HOUSING AND
EVERYTHING IN OUR WORLD RIGHT
NOW.
WE ARE ASKING THAT FUNDING BE
BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY,
THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY.
AND ASKING THAT ALL COUNCIL
MEMBERS VOTE ON THIS IMPORTANT
EXTRA FUNDING FOR TENANT
ORGANIZING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME.
I SEE WE HAVE DEREK BACK.
LET'S GO BACK TO DEREK REALLY
QUICK.
AND THEN WE WILL GO TO KOLEA.
HELLO DEREK, ARE YOU WITH US?
OH.
IT LOOKS LIKE DEREK IS NOT
PRESENT SO LET'S KEEP GOING.
KOLEA, GOOD MORNING.
FOLLOWED BY ALEXIS D, AND THEN
EWA M, YOU ARE LISTED AS NOT
PRESENT.
EVA, SORRY.
MORNING.
>> A MORNING.
I AM KOLEA BALDWIN, A RESIDENT
OF DISTRICT 1 IN WEST SEATTLE.
A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I HAD A
TOWNHALL WITH COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD, THANK YOU FOR
ATTENDING THE TOWNHALL.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DIRECTLY
TO COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD ABOUT
SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID AT
THAT TOWNHALL, ABOUT BEING
UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT REDUCING
THE NUMBER OF CITY POLICE
OFFICERS, TO ENDING UP ONLY AT
1200 POLICE OFFICERS BY THE END
OF NEXT YEAR.
AND, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU
KNOW THAT THE PRODUCTION OF
POLICE OFFICERS, AND THE NUMBER
OF POLICE OFFICERS HAS SO
LITTLE TO DO WITH COMMUNITY
SAFETY.
I REALLY URGE YOU, COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD AND THE REST OF
THE COUNCIL TO RETHINK HOW YOU
THINK ABOUT, TALK ABOUT, AND
ENGAGE WITH THE IDEA OF
COMMUNITY SAFETY.
AS NIKITA SAID EARLIER TODAY,
WE CANNOT, THE CURRENT POLICE
SYSTEM IS NOT EFFECTIVE IN
MAINTAINING, SUPPORTING,
ENCOURAGING BUILDING COMMUNITY
SAFETY.
WE NEED TO TALK INSTEAD AND PUT
OUR DOLLARS DOWN FOR STABILITY
IN HOUSING, FOR STABILITY IN
ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE AND
STABILITY TO ACCESS OF FOOD.
ACCESS TO RELIABLE TRANSIT AND
ABILITY TO GET TO FAMILIES AND
EMPLOYMENT.
AND COMMUNITY.
ALSO, OVER HERE IN WEST SEATTLE
WE HAV THE ISSUE OF HAVING A
LOT OF FAMILIES AND HAVING
YOUNG FOLKS WHO DON'T GOT STUFF
TO DO.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS THE
CASE ALL OVER THE CITY.
SO, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY SAFETY IN
TERMS OF MAKING SURE COMMUNITY
HAS SAFE PLACES TO BE.
I URGE YOU TO DEFUND THE POLICE
AND CUT, NO NEW COPS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALEXIS, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING ALEXIS, JUST
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE ON YOUR END.
YOU GO.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ALEXIS AND I HAVE
LIVED IN THE PUGET SOUND REGION
FOR SEVEN YEARS.
I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY SUPPORT
FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS SAWANT
AMENDMENT TO FUND MORE TINY
HOME VILLAGES.
INITIATIVES LIKE THESE HAVE
GIVEN ME A PATH AS OUT OF
GENERATIONAL POVERTY.
ALMOST ONE DECADE AGO I DROPPED
OUT OF COLLEGE ALMOST BECAUSE I
KNEW NO ONE TO COSIGN ON A LOAN
FOR ME.
I WAS ONLY ABLE TO GO BACK TO
SCHOOL THANKS TO THE HUSKY
PROMISE, WHICH COVERS TUITION
FOR UW.
ADMITS THE PANDEMIC WHILE RCH
MAINTAINING A 3.9% GPA AND
WORKING TWO JOBS.
WHAT IS IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE
AMENDMENT?
WELL, DESPITE MY RECENT STRING
OF SUCCESS I'M CURRENTLY
HOMELESS.
BUT MY EDUCATION IS PUT ON PAUSE
DUE TO A CANCER DIAGNOSIS IN MY
FAMILY, WHICH MEANT LOSING
STUDENT HOUSING.
NOW MY MULTIPLE JOBS ARE NOT
ENOUGH TO PAY FOR AN APARTMENT
IN THE AREA.
I AM A LUCKY ONE TO STILL HAVE
A JOB.
I CRASH ON COUCHES OF FRIENDS
THAT I HAVE AND DO NOT HAVE
KIDS.
POGROMS LIKE THE TINY VILLAGE
HOMES GIVES PEOPLE A SENSE OF
COMMUNITY, A PLACE TO GET BACK
ON THEIR FEET, A PLACE TO GET
BACK ON THEIR FEET, AND A SENSE
OF STABILITY IN ORDER TO GET
OUT OF THE SITUATIONS THEY ARE
IN.
I YIELD MY TIME.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
CALLING AND THIS MORNING.
EVA, I SEE YOU ARE LISTED AS
NOT PRESENT.
I ALSO WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO
KOLEA, I THINK I PRONOUNCED
YOUR NAME WRONG AGAIN TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MELANIE,
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> I CAN HEAR YOU BUT THERE IS
A LITTLE ECHO.
IF YOU ARE ON SPEAKER, TRY
TAKING THAT OFTEN I WILL PUT
MYSELF ON MUTE.
>> I MUTED EVERYTHING.
IS THAT BETTER?
>> BETTER.
THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR
TAKING THE AS A CALLER TODAY.
I AM VERY NEW TO THE PROCESS OF
CALLING INTO A CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
I AM ONE OF THOUSANDS OF WHITE
PEOPLE WHO REALLY STARTED
TAKING ACTION AFTER THE DEATH
OF GEORGE FLOYD.
AND I HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF
LISTENING, A LOT OF LEARNING, A
LOT OF, SPECIFICALLY LISTENING
TO THE PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY
THAT I DON'T SEE A LOT.
I AM A RENTER, I AM A MUSICIAN
AND I RENTED DISTRICT 6. I WAS
ABLE TO FIND SUPER AFFORDABLE
HOUSING UP HERE WHICH IS
AMAZING.
I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL
LAST.
ANYWAY, I'M CALLING TO SUPPORT
WHAT NIKITA SAID, I AM CALLING
TO SUPPORT THE HOLIDAYS VERY --
THE SOLIDARITY BUDGET.
ASKING TO DEFUND THE POLICE BY
AT LEAST 50%.
NO NEW COPS, WE NEED A HIRING
FREEZE.
WE NEED TO INVEST IN COMMUNITY
SAFETY BASED PROGRAMS.
WE NEED TO FREE THE PROTESTERS.
[ LAUGHTER ] I AM SITTING BACK
AND WATCHING AND LISTENING AND
WATCHING LIVE STREAMS AND ICY
PEOPLE LIKE NIKITA, AND KING
COUNTY EQUITY WHO HAVE BEEN
DEALING RESEARCH AND HAVE
PROGRAMS THAT ARE WORKING FOR
THE COMMUNITY AND NEED TO BE
FUNDED AND COULD BE FUNDED
MORE.
I JUST THINK IT IS TIME TO
REALLY NOT, TO LISTEN AND GIVE
THEM WHAT THEY NEED.
IN THE WAY THEY NEEDED.
INSTEAD OF COMING UP WITH A
SOLUTION THAT MAY SEEM LIKE WE
DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM TOO
MUCH POWER.
SO THAT IS IT.
IT IS TIME TO LISTEN AND GIVE
THEM WHAT THEY NEED BARIC AND
THE WAY I NEED IT SO THAT WE
CAN BE SAFE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
STAR, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
ALLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT 7 AND
MEMBER OF SOCIALIST ALTERNATIVE.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TODAY.
I AM CALLING IT SPORT FOR THE
PEOPLE'S BUDGET AND SOLIDARITY
BUDGET.
I HOPE TODAY YOU WILL PROTECT
WORKING PEOPLE IN SEATTLE BY
OTING TO INCREASE T
TAX ON BIG BUSINESSES THAT A
BEEN MAKING HUGE PROFITS EVEN
DURING THE PANDEMIC WHILE MANY
WORKING PEOPLE LIKE ME ARE
STRUGGLING, JUST TO GET BY.
PLEASE FUN TENANT EDUCATION AND
OUTREACH AND EVICTION LEGAL
DEFENSE.
WE HAVE TO DEFEND OUR PLAN AND
STOP RELYING ON FOSSIL FUELS.
FUND A GREEN NEW DEAL AND
ELECTRIFICATION PROJECT FOR LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
PLEASE STAND BY YOUR WORD TO
DEFUND SPD BY 50% AND SUPPORT
COUNCIL MEMBER KSHAMA SAWANT,
PETE SOULS -- PEOPLE'S BUDGET
TO DEFUND BY 50%, $170 MILLION.
DO NOT HIRE NEW OFFICERS AND
INSTEAD FUND THE $9 MILLION
INCLUDING 500,000 FOR CULTURAL
SPACES, 911 ALTERNATIVES, THE
CITY SHOULD FIRE COPS AND NOT
HIRE COPS.
PUT IN PLACE A HIRING FREEZE.
NO NEW COPS.
DEFUND SPD.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, STAR.
GOOD MORNING.
>> HELLO.
I AM A MEMBER OF UAW 4121 AND
SOCIALIST ALTERNATIVE.
I'M CALLING TO REJECT THE
CURRENT BUDGETS PROPOSED BY THE
SEVEN DEMOCRATS ON THE COUNCIL
AND DEMAND THE PEOPLE'S BUDGET
THAT WORKS FOR REGULAR PEOPLE
IN THE CITY LIKE ME AS A RENTER
AND GRADUATE STUDENT I THINK IT
IS DISGRACEFUL THAT DURING THIS
PANDEMIC AND CRISIS YOU HAVE
INCLUDED AUSTERITY MEASURES IN
THE CURRENT PROPOSAL, INCLUDING
CUTTING FUNDS FOR LIBRARIES,
PARKS, COMMUNITY CENTERS,
PUBLIC HOUSING AND SERVICES.
YOU ARE PROTECTING THE RICHEST
AND MOST POWERFUL BUSINESSES IN
THE WORLD AND THE CITY.
THEY ARE NOT SUFFERING DURING
THE CRISIS.
WE ARE.
THE AMAZON TAX THAT OUR
MOVEMENT ONE AND PUSHED THROUGH
BY MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE
WAS HUGELY SIGNIFICANT FOR
WORKING PEOPLE ACTUALLY ON THE
FRONT LINES STRUGGLING TO PAY
RENT AND BUY MEDICINE AND FOOD,
ETC.
BUT STILL IT REPRESENTED A TINY
FRACTION OF THE DISGUSTING
PROFITS THAT THEY HAVE MADE BY
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CRISIS.
YESTERDAY MEASURED I DESCRIBED
CAN BE AVOIDED SO WE DEMAND
THAT YOU PASS A SMALL INCREASE
TO THE AMAZON TAX THAT OUR
MOVEMENT IS DEMANDING. THEY CAN
AFFORD TO PAY IT.
WE, THE WORKING PEOPLE OF THE
CITY CANNOT.
SECONDLY, YOU COMMITTED TO THE
JUSTICE FOR JORDAN LLOYD
MOVEMENT.
-- GEORGE FLOYD.
SHAMEFUL YOU HAVE NOT LIVED UP
TO THE PROMISE AND IF YOU DID
THAT WE WOULD OBTAIN B FUNDS TO
ENSURE THAT WORKING PEOPLE DO
NOT BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE
CRISIS.
MOST IMPORTANT TODAY I URGE ALL
OF YOU TO DO WHAT MANY CITIES
HAVE DONE TO PASS COUNCIL MEMBER
KSHAMA SAWANT'S TO ELECT FULL
POWER TO HIRE AND FIRE,
INVESTIGATE REPORTS OF
EXCESSIVE FORCE AND RACIAL BIAS.
I ALSO STAND WITH THE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET, NO NEW COPS.
PUT THE MONEY INTO FUNDING
COMMUNITY LED PROGRAMS INSTEAD.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
I AM SORRY I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR
NAME.
IN THE LAST THREE SPEAKERS
PRESENT INCLUDE MICHAEL M,
SARAH K, AND AARON H. THE THREE
THAT I HAVE THAT ARE NOT
PRESENT INCLUDE DEREK T, KATIE
N, AND ERIC M. SO, GOOD MORNING
MICHAEL.
>> HELLO.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL AND I MAY
RENTER IN DISTRICT 3. I AM
CALLING FOR THE COUNCIL TO
COMMIT TO COMMITMENT OF
DEFUNDING SPD BY 50% AND
SHIFTING $9 MILLION AWAY FROM
THE SPD HIRING BUDGET TO SCALE
ALTERNATIVES.
TO 911.
AND HIGHER FREEZE INTO 2021.
ALSO CALLING TO ADVOCATE FOR
SOLIDARITY BUDGETS, INCLUDING
FUNDING FOR SIDEWALK PROJECTS
IN BEACON HILL, FUNDING FOR HOME
WEATHERIZATION AND
ELECTRIFICATION FOR THE GREEN
NEW DEAL AND SUPPORT TINY HOUSE
VILLAGES.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND, SARAH, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS SARAH.
I AM A RENTER IN COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS' DISTRICT 6. I AM A
GRADUATE STUDENT AT UW, AND
CALLING INTO THE MEANING TODAY,
BECAUSE LIKE SO MANY OTHERS
HAVE VOICED, I URGE YOU TO
DIVEST FROM SPD AND REINVEST IN
BIPOC COMMUNITIES.
DEFUND THE SEATTLE PD BY AT
LEAST 50%.
INVEST IN BLACK COMMUNITIES
THROUGH A PARTICIPATORY
BUDGETING PROCESS, INCLUDING
THE $100 MILLION PROMISED BY
THE MAYOR.
FUND COVID-19 RELIEF,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A GREEN
NEW DEAL FOR SEATTLE.
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FOR
BLACK COMMUNITIES MUST COME
FROM THE CITY'S POLICING BUDGET
AND NOT FROM THE JUMPSTART
SEATTLE BUDGET THAT HAS BEEN
COMMITTED ALREADY.
IN THIS WEEK SPECIFICALLY I AM
CALLING TO ASK YOU TO VOTE YES.
THE FIRST WOODCUT SPD HIRING
BUDGET AND PRIORITIZES
COMMUNITY LED ALTERNATIVES TO
ADDRESSING HARM.
THE SECOND WILL REALLOCATE $1
MILLION TO FUND THE JUMPSTART
GREEN NEW DEAL PROGRAM IN 2021.
DEFUNDING SPD IS ESSENTIAL TO
ELIMINATING INJUSTICE IN OUR
CITY.
IT IS A FIRST STEP TO UNWINDING
THE DEEPLY ENTRENCHED ROOTS OF
RACISM AND CRITICAL TO
REALIZING THE GREEN NEW DEAL.
I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON THESE
TWO IMPORTANT NEEDS.
DEFUNDING SPD BY 50% AND INVEST
IN BLACK COMMUNITY THROUGH THE
COMMUNITY LED PARTICIPATORY
BUDGETING PROCESS.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
OUR LAST PERSON IS AARON.
GOOD MORNING.
THERE WE ARE.
I SEE YOU.
GO AHEAD.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS AARON AND I AM IN
DISTRICT 3. I AM CALLING, JUST
WONDERING WHERE THE SEATTLE
CITY COUNCIL FROM THIS SUMMER
WENT.
THE ONE THAT COMMITTED TO 50%
CUT TO THE SPD BUDGET.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR, IT IS
NOT SURPRISING THE MAYOR WOULD
BE UP TO THE USUAL TRICKS,
TRYING TO ADD NEW COPS THIS
YEAR.
GIVEN THAT THEY SPENT THE SUMMER
ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING WITH SPD
BY PUTTING DOWN PROTESTS AND
HARMING PROTESTERS AND
SUPPORTING SPD, WHICH HAS HARMED
BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES FOR
SO LONG.
I HOPE THAT WE FIND THE COUNCIL
THAT COMMITTED TO THAT.
AND THAT THEY ASSURE US ALL
THAT THERE WILL BE NO NEW COPS
IN 2021.
WHICH IS AN OUTRAGE TO EVEN
HAVE THAT ON THE TABLE.
AND THAT WE WOULD DEFUND THE
POLICE BY 50%, A GOOD START.
BUT, NOT THE END GAME HERE.
WE KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY
NEEDS THESE PROGRAMS, THE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET, WE NEED
HOUSING FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE,
AND WE NEED PROGRAMS FOR OUR
YOUTH TO KEEP THEM OUT OF JAILS
AND OUT OF THE CRIMINAL
INJUSTICE SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS A SMALL
STEP TODAY, THAT I AM ASKING
YOU TO TAKE AND I AM EXCITED
FOR WHAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN
DO IF WE TAKE THAT STEP.
I THANK YOU AND YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU AARON.
SOME FOLKS THAT SIGNED UP TO
TESTIFY, SOPHIA, DEREK, EVA,
KATIE.
WE DO NOT SEE YOU LISTED AS
PRESENT.
THAT GETS US THROUGH EVERYBODY
ON OUR PUBLIC COMMENT LIST FOR
TODAY.
SO I WANTED TO CLOSE OUT PUBLIC
COMMENT TODAY BY THANKING
EVERYBODY FOR CALLING IN.
ALL OF YOUR COMMENT HAS BEEN
INCREDIBLY HELPFUL AND
INFORMATIVE AND WE APPRECIATE
YOUR TIME.
THIS IS OUR SECOND TO LAST
MEETING AND AT EVERY MEETING WE
MAKE SURE TO HAVE PUBLIC
COMMENT AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
TO BOTH ADDRESS THE CONCERNS
ABOUT FOLKS BEING ABLE TO
PRTICIPATE IN THE REMOTE
PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE
WERE ACCESSIBLE IN PROVIDING
CONTENT THAT WE WERE
CONSIDERING AND HAVING YOUR
FEDBACK ON THAT CONTENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO
ITEMS ON THE AGENDA., DO YOU
PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER ONE
INTO THE RECORD?
>> MOSQUEDA WE ARE STARTING AT
GROUP 4, GROTE H GROUP 4.
>> THANK YOU.
IT IS A CONTINUATION OF
YESTERDAY'S CONVERSATION.
SO WE OFFICIALLY WENT INTO
RECESS AND WE ARE COMING BACK.
WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITH
EVERYTHING LISTED IN GROUP C.
THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE CENTRAL
STAFF THAT MADE THE PROCESS
INCREDIBLY EASY TO FOLLOW AND
IN A REMOTE NATURE.
WE APPRECIATE THE WAY IN WHICH
YOU HAVE GROUPED THE ITEMS FOR
CONSIDERATION.
AND I WILL TURN IT TO ALY
PENNUCCI . ALSO I WANT TO
WELCOME THE INTERIM DIRECTOR,
THANK YOU.
IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
THROUGHOUT NOT JUST THIS BUDGET
BUT THE ENTIRE YEAR.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT,
EVERYBODY.
GOOD MORNING, ALY PENNUCCI.
>> GOOD MORNING.
ALY PENNUCCI, CENTRAL STAFF.
IS THE CHAIR DESCRIBED WE ARE
IN VOTING GROUP C, THAT
INCLUDES ITEMS 162-169, ON THE
AGENDA, AS WELL AS ONE ITEM
THAT WAS REMOVED FROM GROUP A
YESTERDAY AND ADDED TO GROUP C
AND WILL BE CONSIDERED TODAY.
THESE ARE ITEMS, PROPOSALS THAT
WERE SUBMITTED FROM COUNCIL
MEMBERS VIA FORM C, THAT ARE
SELF BALANCED OR STANDALONE,
DON'T SPEND MONEY, AS
LEGISLATIVE INTENT.
SO NOT NECESSARILY AFFECTING
THE REST OF THE BALANCING
PACKAGE.
BECAUSE THEY ARE NEW PROPOSALS
I ASK THE LEAD ANALYSTS TO
DESCRIBE THE ITEMS FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION WITH THE FIRST
ONE BEING DESCRIBED BY INTERIM
DIRECT OR.
>> GOOD MORNING DAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH INTERIM
DIRECTOR.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
ITEM 162, IS BL G 043 A 001.
THIS BUDGET ACTION WOULD AMEND
COUNCIL BILL 119950, AND THEN
RECOMMEND PASSING THE BILL AS
AMENDED.
THE EFFECT WOULD BE TO INCREASE
THE PAYROLL EXCISE TAX RATE,
COMPARED TO THOSE CURRENTLY
INCLUDED IN SEATTLE MUNICIPAL
CODE CHAPTER 5.38.
CENTRAL STAFF ESTIMATES THAT THE
BUDGET ACTION WILL GENERATE AN
ADDITIONAL $187.2 MILLION, IN
GENERAL FUND REVENUES.
ON TOP OF THE $214 MILLION BASE
AMOUNT, THAT IS OTHERWISE
ANTICIPATED IN 2021, BASED ON
RATES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN
EFFECT.
THE BUDGET ACTION WOULD USE THE
ADDITIONAL $187 MILLION, IN NEW
REVENUES TO FUND PROJECTS AND
PROGRAMS IN THE SEATTLE PUBLIC
LIBRARIES, THE DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION, THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING, AND SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
IN THE EVENT THAT THE COUNCIL
BILL PASSES, THEIR MAIN NO
LONGER BE A NEED TO PASS 8, FROM
VOTING GROUP A. AS ALY PENNUCCI
MENTIONED, THE ITEM WAS REMOVED
FROM THAT CONSENT PACKAGE.
AND THE RELATED ITEM IS NOW
QUEUED UP LATER ON YOUR AGENDA
FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT IS THE
SPONSOR OF ITEM 162.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, I WILL
MAKE A MOTION TO OFFICIALLY
MOVE THIS IN FRONT OF US.
OKAY?
I MOVE TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO
ADD COUNCIL BUDGET ACTION BLG
043 A 00, SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT, IT IS YOU TO DO THAT.
I TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
FOR ALL OF THE SPONSORS ON FORM
C, WE WILL HAVE YOU MAKE THE
MOTION.
JUST RESTART.
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, WOULD
YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION.
>> THANK YOU.
I WOULD NOT HAVE HAD A PROBLEM
IF YOU MOVED IT.
I MOVE TO AMEND AND PASS AS
AMENDED CB 119950, INCREASING
THE PAYROLL TAX, AND $5.8
MILLION GENERAL FUND TO SPL,
ADD $41 MILLION GENERAL FUND TO
SPR, AND $46.9 MILLION GENERAL
FUND TO THE OFFICE OF HOUSING
AND ADD $93.6 MILLION GENERAL
FUND TO S.D.O.T.
.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, I AM NOT
HEARING A SECOND ON THE ITEM.
>> CAN I REQUEST A SECOND SO I
CAN DESCRIBE THE AMENDMENT IN
THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC
KNOWLEDGE?
>> OKAY, I WILL GIVE YOU A
SECOND ON THIS.
>> OKAY.
I APPRECIATE IT.
>> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE INTRODUCTION TO THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSED BUDGET SAYS QUOTE,
SPENDING REDUCTIONS WERE
NECESSARY AND QUOTE.
THAT IS HOW BIG BUSINESS HAS
APPROACHED THIS RECESSION, JUST
LIKE IN PREVIOUS RECESSIONS.
NOW WE ARE HEARING CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS SAYING THAT THIS WILL
BE THE ANTI-AUSTERITY BUDGET
BUT WE KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE.
IT IS TRUE THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET
SLIGHTLY REDUCES THE POST
BUDGET FROM OVER $200 MILLION,
TO OVER $187 MILLION, WHICH IS
ABSOLUTELY THE CORRECT
DIRECTION TO GO IN.
BUT THAT LEAVES OVER 93% OF THE
ORIGINAL BUDGET CUTS,
UNFORTUNATELY REMAINING INTACT.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, WHAT I
MEAN, WHEN I SAY THIS IS AN
AUSTERITY BUDGET.
AUSTERITY IS WHEN THERE ARE
LARGE PARTS OF CENTRAL SERVICES,
ESPECIALLY IN A CAPITALISTIC
RECESSION, AS WE ARE AT THIS
MOMENT.
WHILE PROTECTING BIG BUSINESS
AND THE WEALTHY FROM HAVING TO
PAY FOR THE CRISIS.
THAT IS EXACTLY BEING PROPOSED
UNFORTUNATELY IN THE BUDGET BY
THE CITY ESTABLISHMENT.
IF THE AMENDED IS NOT ADOPTED.
I WANT TO GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF
THE AUSTERITY IN THIS BUDGET.
TO QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM THE
BUDGET ABOUT THE PARKS
DEPARTMENT, QUOTE, SEATTLE
PARKS AND RECREATION IS
MANAGING A SIGNIFICANT
REDUCTION IN ITS OVERALL
REVENUES, INCLUDING AND AN
$11.4 MILLION IN REDUCTION OF
GENERAL FUND SUPPORT.
GENERAL REVENUES FROM USER FEES
AND A $19.3 MILLION REDUCTION
IN REAL ESTATE EXCESS TAX, WHICH
WOULD SUPPORT PARKS.
FIVE OF THE CITY'S 26 COMMUNITY
CENTERS WILL BE CLOSED IN 2021
AND OF THE CITY'S 10 POOLS,
ONLY FOUR WILL REMAIN IN
OPERATION IN 2021 AND AND QUOTE.
ONLY $84 MILLION IN 2021 AND
THAT IS ACCOUNTING FOR THE CITY
COUNCIL'S ADDITIONS.
FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION HAS
BEEN CUT BY ALMOST $100 MILLION
COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
$131 MILLION IN CUTS BEFORE
ACCOUNTING FOR CITY COUNCIL'S
ADDITIONS.
THAT INCLUDES MILLIONS FOR
BUSES AND TENS OF MILLIONS FOR
ESSENTIAL MAINTENANCE.
AND CONSTRUCTION FOR THE
TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
YESTERDAY MANY MEMBERS SPOKE
PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE NEED TO
TAX WORKING PEOPLE'S CAR TABS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IS A DEEPLY
REGRESSIVE TAX THAT PUNISHES
POOR PEOPLE TO FUND JUST $3.6
MILLION FOR BRIDGE REPAIR.
HERE WE HAVE ALMOST $100
MILLION BEEN CUT IN THIS BUDGET
AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER CUTS
TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES IN THE
BUDGET THAT I WILL NOT HAVE
TIME TO ENUMERATE.
THE CUTS TO PARKS, LIBRARIES,
TRANSPORTATION HOUSING,
COMBINED TO A LOSS OF $187.2
MILLION, AFTER ACCOUNTING FOR
THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS AS I
MENTIONED.
TO BE CLEAR THEY HAVE PREVENTED
THE BUDGETARY LAYOFFS AND THAT
IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
NEEDS TO BE RECOGNIZE THAT IS
ONLY BECAUSE OF THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE
BUDGET CUTS ELIMINATING PUBLIC
WORKS LIKE CONSTRUCTION AND
MAINTENANCE PROJECTS, THAT THE
CITY CONTRACTS OUT TO BE DONE
BY WORKERS WHO ARE NOT DIRECTLY
APPLIED BY THE CITY.
BY ANY BACK OF THE ENVELOPE
ESTIMATE, THE REALITY WOULD BE
$187 MILLION IN CUTS WILL RESULT
IN AT LEAST HUNDREDS OF LAYOFFS
AND CANCEL JOB CREATION.
NOT CITY OF SEATTLE JOBS BUT
OTHER JOBS, WHICH IN TURN WILL
DEEPEN THE EFFECT OF THE
RECESSION THAT IS ALREADY BEEN
EXACERBATED BY THE COVID-19
EMERGENCY.
WE NEED TO EXPAND PUBLIC JOBS
PROGRAMS LIKE THE GREEN NEW
DEAL AND A GUARANTEE JOBS
PROGRAM FUNDED BY TAXING BIG
BUSINESS.
NOT SLASHING PUBLIC INVESTMENTS.
THE AUSTERITY WILL BE ENACTED
IN THESE FORMS, THROUGH CUTS TO
PUBLIC SERVICES, DELAYED PUBLIC
PROJECTS.
THERE WILL BE LESS MONEY FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IN THE
CONTEXT OF THIS PANDEMIC AND
DEEP RECESSION THAT IT MAKES
ANY SENSE TO REDUCE PUBLIC
SERVICES AND YET THIS IS WHAT
IS BEING PROPOSED.
IF WE DON'T BITE THE AUSTERITY
NOW, AS FAR AS WORKING PEOPLE
ARE CONCERNED, IT WILL ONLY GET
WORSE FOR WORKING PEOPLE AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN THE
COMING MONTHS.
IF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DID
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE WERE BIG
BUDGET CUTS, THEN THEY WERE
ARGUING THERE WAS NO
ALTERNATIVE TO THE DRACONIAN
CUTS AND SHARED SACRIFICE.
BUT THE SACRIFICES ARE NOT
SHARED.
AMAZON AND OTHER MASSIVE
MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS HAVE
BOASTED UNHEARD-OF PROFITS
SINCE THE PANDEMIC BEGAN.
IT IS AS ALWAYS POOR AND
WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE THAT ARE
BEING ASKED TO MAKE SACRIFICES
IN VARIOUS FORMS.
LOST JOBS, JOBS NOT CREATED,
SLASHED ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND
CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE.
THERE IS A CLEAR ALTERNATIVE.
COUNCIL COULD VOTE TO INCREASE
TAXES ON THE BIGGEST TAXES OF
SEATTLE.
AMAZON ALONE HAS MADE AN EYE-
POPPING $11.5 BILLION.
$11.5 BILLION, WITH A B,
PROFITS, SINCE APRIL.
STARBUCKS, F5 AND OTHER
CORPORATIONS HAVE ALSO REPORTED
BIG PROFITS.
YESTERDAY, NO OTHER COUNCIL
MEMBER WAS WILLING TO VOTE TO
USE A MINUSCULE INCREASE IN BIG
BUSINESS TAXES, WHICH RESULTED
IN POOR PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY
PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WOMEN BEING
JAILED FOR NONPAYMENT.
IN CONTRAST, THROUGHOUT THIS
YEAR'S BUDGET DELIBERATIONS, MY
OFFICE HAS CONSISTENTLY FOUGHT
TO INCREASE BIG BUSINESS TAXES
TO STOP THE AUSTERITY THAT WAS
BEING PROPOSED BY MAYOR DURKAN
IN THE BUDGET.
THE BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL
GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL $187.2
MILLION BY INCREASING THE
AMAZON TAX RATES
PROPORTIONATELY ACROSS ALL SIX
TEARS.
AS I CLEAN YESTERDAY BECAUSE
THIS AND THE OTHER BUDGET
AMENDMENTS THAT ARE USING THIS
REVENUE ADD TO THE TAX RATE,
ARE ALL OF SUCH A NATURE THAT
EACH CAN BE CONSIDERED
SEPARATELY, AS I SAID
YESTERDAY, SUPPORT FOR ONE
AMENDMENT NEITHER REQUIRES
SUPPORT FOR OR CONFLICTS WITH
OTHER AMENDMENTS TO INCREASE
THE TAX RATE.
EACH MINUTE STANDS ALONE.
THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD ADD
TO THE AMAZON TAX RATES BETWEEN
.612%, AND 2.99%, DEPENDING ON
WHICH TIER OF BUSINESS WE ARE
LOOKING AT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL
MEMBERS HAVE A CLEAR CHOICE
WITH TAXING BIG BUSINESS.
AND AUSTERITY IMPOSED ON
WORKING PEOPLE.
AND I REALLY URGE AND WELCOME
COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THE
AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
CORRECT THE RECORD HERE.
HAS BEEN STATED THAT IF YOU
TIMES THERE WAS AN AUSTERITY
BUDGET AND THERE IS $200
MILLION IN CUTS, SPECIFICALLY
PARKS AND ROADS.
I AM GOING TO ASK TRACY AND CAL
TO CLARIFY, FOR THE RECORD,
WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PROPOSED
IN THE BUDGET.
TRACY, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS IT RELATES
TO SEATTLE PARKS AND
RECREATION, THERE IS A GENERAL
FUND REDUCTION OF $11.4
MILLION.
A PORTION OF THAT REDUCTION IS
ACTUALLY MITIGATED BY THE USE
OF THE METROPOLITAN PARK
DISTRICT SAVINGS PROGRAM, $8.9
MILLION, AS WELL AS $1.3
MILLION IN GENERAL FUNDING
EXPENDITURE SAVINGS AND A FUND
SWAP OF $1.2 MILLION, FOR
GENERAL FUND.
YOU CAN SEE $11.4 MILLION DOES
NOT ACTUALLY RESULT IN THE
TOTAL REDUCTION BECAUSE OF
THOSE BACK BILLS AND FUND
SWAPS.
AS IT RELATES TO THE PARK
FUNDS, THAT IS ABOUT $10.5
MILLION REDUCTION, AGAIN $6.4
MILLION OF THAT WILL BE FILLED
BY SOME EXPENDITURE SAVINGS IN
THE PARKS AND REC FUND.
AS WELL AS A SAVINGS FROM A ONE
TIME SAVINGS FROM THE MPD
OPERATING FUNDS.
AND FINALLY THE FUNDING IS
REDUCED BY $19 MILLION, BUT
ABOUT $8.7 MILLION OF THAT IS
ACTUALLY A FUND SWAP AND WE ARE
BACKING OUT WHAT WOULD BE AN
ENTIRELY REIT FUNDED AQUARIUM
FOR RENOVATION AND WE ARE
REPLACING IT WITH DEATH SERVICE
PAYMENT BOND FINANCING.
SO THE NET REDUCTION OF COURSE
IS ABOUT $11 MILLION.
THERE ARE ABOUT $12 MILLION
WORTH OF REDUCTIONS IN CAPITAL
FUNDED PROGRAMS AND FTR, TO
MAKE UP THAT REDUCTION.
>> THANK YOU TRACY.
CAL, DID YOU WANT TO ADD
ANYTHING?
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
I DON'T, THERE HE IS.
>> SORRY.
JUST JOINED.
I THINK THE QUESTION WAS HOW
MUCH ARE THE CUTS IN THE
PROPOSED BUDGET?
THE S.D.O.T.
BUDGET IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT
TO MAIL DOWN EXACTLY BUT THE
PROPOSED BUDGET IDENTIFY 60
MILLION IN PROPOSED CUTS WITH
ADDITIONAL CAPITAL CUTS THAT
SHIFT BETWEEN YEARS AND PLANNED
SPENDING THAT LOOK LIKE
DIFFERENCES.
IT IS HARD TO IDENTIFY THOSE
AS, IT COULD BE A DEFERMENT OR
AN ACTUAL CUT.
IT COULD BE JUST REDUCED
SPENDING.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET DOES
IDENTIFY $60 MILLION OF PROGRAM
REDUCTIONS IN S.D.O.T.
.
>> ALY PENNUCCI, OVERALL, IT
WAS THE PRINCIPAL BUDGET FOR ME
THAT WE RESTORE ALL THE
BUDGETARY PROPOSED LAYOFFS.
EVERY BUDGETARY PROPOSED LAYOFF
IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET IN
FRONT OF US HAS BEEN RESTORED.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT IN AN ACTION
THAT THE COMMITTEE TOOK
YESTERDAY IN GROUP B. I DON'T
REMEMBER THE CB NUMBER.
IT BEGINS WITH CW.
TO HAVE ALL THE BUDGETARY
LAYOFFS.
AND AS WE DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY
IN COMMITTEE, WHEN LOOKING AT
THE RAW TECHNICAL DETAILS OF
THE BUDGET, SOME THINGS THAT
APPEAR AS SORT OF REDUCTIONS TO
THE, ANY GIVEN DEPARTMENT'S
BUDGET, FROM D.O.T.
FOR THAT YEAR, INCLUDES BACKING
OUT ONE-TIME ADS FROM THE
PREVIOUS YEAR, AS WELL AS THE
SWINGS AND CAPITAL PROJECT THAT
CAL WAS DESCRIBING.
IT IS A, NOT AS STRAIGHTFORWARD
AS UNANSWERED BUT YES, YOU ARE
CORRECT, YOUR BALANCING
PACKAGE, EXCUSE ME, YOUR
AMENDMENT IN THE BALANCING
PACKAGE RESTORED ALL BUDGETARY
LAYOFFS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND FINALLY, THE PROPOSED
BUDGET WE RECEIVED HAD $3
MILLION, NEAR ZERO AMOUNT, AS
TOM EXPLAINED YESTERDAY.
AND WE HAD REBUILT THAT
RESERVES, THE EMERGENCY
RESERVES, TO ABOUT $40 MILLION.
IN MANY WAYS, COLLEAGUES, THIS
IS A FUND THAT WILL HELP
PREVENT THE CLIFF THAT WE
EXPECT TO COME NEXT YEAR.
IN THE DEEP HURT THAT IS GOING
O BE EXPERIENCED BY OUR
RESIDENTS, SMALL BUSINESSES,
ELDERS, AND MOST VULNERABLE.
AS WE HAVE PROTECTED AT LEAST
$40 MILLION IN THIS BUDGET,
WHILE WE ARE STILL MAKING KEY
INVESTMENTS AND CORE GOVERNMENT
SERVICES, AND COMMUNITY LED
STRATEGIES, BOTH TO
ALTERNATIVES TO POLICING AND
FEEDING FOLKS WHO ARE FOOD
INSECURE AND MAKING SURE THAT
THERE IS ADDITIONAL HOUSING
SUPPORT.
FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH SOME OF
THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT SUPPORTED, MAKING SURE
THERE IS FUNDING FOR THE MERCER
MEGA BLOCK SALE ALLOCATION, AS
IT WAS INTENTION FOR THOSE AT
HIGHEST AT RISK OF DISPLACING.
FUNDING AFRICA TOWN SO MORE
SHELTER AND SERVICES CAN BE
PROVIDED BY MAKING SURE THAT
THERE IS SUPPORT IN OVER A. AND
OPENING NEW SHELTER BEDS. I
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS
HAVE THE HOLISTIC PICTURE OF
WHAT IS BEING INVESTED.
WITH THAT, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
, COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, DID
YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO CLOSE?
>> YES.
AND I SPONSORED THE AMENDMENT I
WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY CLOSE.
WHAT CENTRAL STAFF HAD
EXPLAINED, ARE ABSOLUTELY
ACCURATE.
EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN PROGRAM REDUCTIONS AND
CAPITAL, THERE IS NOTHING THERE
THAT I WOULD DISAGREE WITH.
I EXPLAINED THAT THE CITY
LAYOFFS WERE AVOIDED AND THAT
ALL THE PROGRESSIVE
MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE MADE,
THAT HAD BEEN MADE IN THE
PROPOSED CITY COUNCIL BUDGET
ARE ALL ABSOLUTELY WELCOME AND
I CONGRATULATE BOTH THE CITY
COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE STEPS
AND I AM HAPPY TO HAVE BOTH
BEEN THE SPONSOR OF AND THE
SUPPORTER OF MANY OF THE
AMENDMENTS.
I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK
COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET FOR
ADVOCATING FOR THIS.
BUT, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND,
AS I SAID BEFORE, THAT MOST OF
THE PARTS AT THIS MOMENT ARE AT
CAPITAL, NOT ON PROGRAMS.
THOSE ARE THE CUTS FOR
CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE,
DEFAULT PROJECTS, DEFAULT
MAINTENANCE.
NOTHING THAT CENTRAL STAFF SAID
IS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT I
SAID.
BUT THE CUTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED
IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND
MAINTENANCE, THEY ALSO MATTER
BECAUSE THEY ARE HEADING
TOWARDS WORSE CUTS.
WE ALSO HAVE MORE THAN $4.2
BILLION CUTS IN THE NEXT STATE
LEVEL.
AND SO THE POINT WE ARE MAKING
IS THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST STEP
IN THAT RECESSION.
THE CONDITIONS ARE GOING TO GET
WORSE NEXT YEAR.
UNLESS WORKING PEOPLE FIGHT
AGAINST THIS, THIS YEAR, IT IS
GOING TO BE MORE OF THIS NEXT
YEAR.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE
CHARACTERIZATION THAT THIS IS
AN AUSTERITY BUDGET.
YES, IT DOES REDUCE THE
AUSTERITY IN THE PROPOSAL BUT
STILL IT IS A BUDGET FULL OF
CUTS AND THE CUTS ARE REAL.
REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY ARE
DIVIDED UP.
I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL SHOULD
INCREASE THE AMAZON TAX BY SUCH
A MINUSCULE AMOUNT BY WHICH THE
COMPANY IS CONCERNED.
>> WILL BE CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON BLG 043-8001.
>> LEWIS .
>> NO.
>> MORALES .
>> NO.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> NO.
>> SAWANT.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> NO.
>> HERBOLD.
>> NO.
>> JUAREZ .
>> NO.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> NO.
>> 1 IN FAVOR AND EIGHT OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION FAVORS AND
AMENDMENT NOT ADDED TO THE LIST
HERE.
WE WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
ITEM.
JUAREZ TOM -- ALY PENNUCCI,
DID YOU WANT TO TEE IT UP?
OR JEFF?
>> THE NEXT ITEM ISM -020-A-001.
REQUEST THAT REPORT FROM HSD
WOULD BE A QUARTERLY REPORT ON
ACTIVITIES TO RESPOND TO ON
SHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
AS I DISCUSSED THIS, I WANTED
TO REMIND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT
YESTERDAY AS PART OF THE
PACKAGE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED
IS A REPURPOSE THING UP WHAT
WAS IN THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED
BUDGET CALLED THE ON SHELTERED
OUTREACH TEAM.
IT WAS CHANGED TO HOMELESSNESS
OUTREACH AND PROVIDER ECOSYSTEM.
I WILL REFER TO THEM AS HOPE.
THEY CAN LOOK FOR A QUARTERLY
REPORT ON HOPE, AS WELL AS
OUTREACH PROVIDERS TO REPORT ON
WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN
RECEIVING FOR THE LAST TWO
YEARS ON THE NAVIGATION TEAM.
THE LEGISLATIVE ATTEMPT IS NOT
PRESCRIBING EACH ITEMS BUT
GENERALLY REFERS TO THE ACT,
THE MEASURES THAT WERE
GRIEVOUSLY RECORDED ON THE TEAM.
THERE IS ALSO A BROAD OUTLINE
OF WHAT IS H.O.P.E.
FOR, AND A PROCESS BY WHICH HSD
CAN PROVIDE THE ALTERNATIVE
MEASURE, IN THE CASE THAT THE
H.O.P.E.
TEAM DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME
TYPE OF METRIC OR WHAT THEY
REPORT ON DOES NOT RELATE TO
WHAT THEY PROVIDE.
THIS WAS PUT FORWARD BY COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN, I TURN
IT TO YOU TO MAKE THE MOTION.
>> YES.
IN TERMS OF THE MOTION, I WOULD
LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT SLI
ITEM 163, SLI HLM-020-A-001.
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED.
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN WOULD
YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS AS
THE SPONSOR?
>> THANK YOU ANTIWHITE A JEFF
FOR SUMMARIZING THIS.
IT IS JUST A STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT, TO REQUIRE
THAT OUR HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT CONTINUED TO PROVIDE
REPORTING IF WE WANT TO SEE
HOMELESSNESS REDUCED, WE ARE
TRYING A NEW MODEL FOR OUTREACH.
THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE HUMAN
SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS
RECORDING TO US IN A CONSISTENT
BASIS.
ON THE HIGH LEVEL OUTCOMES THAT
WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN
TERMS OF CONNECTING PEOPLE TO
SERVICES, CONNECTING PEOPLE TO
SAVOR SPACES, LIKE TINY HOME
VILLAGES, SHELTER, TO HOUSING.
AND TO REPORT TO US ON HOW
UNSAFE CONDITIONS ARE DEALT
WITH.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SIX AND THEN
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES .
>> THANK YOU.
I WAS WONDERING, JEFF, CAN YOU
GIVE US MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT
YOU HAD SAID ABOUT BEING SOME
FLEXIBILITY WITH WHAT THE
METRICS ARE?
I DO KNOW THAT WHAT WE ASKED OF
THE NAVIGATION TEAM IS NOT,
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME METRICS
THAT OUTREACH PROVIDERS ARE
UNDER THEIR OUTCOMES, AND
STANDARDS FOR PERFORMANCE ARE
REQUIRED TO REPORT TO HS D. WE
OF COURSE DO RESULTS BASED
ACCOUNTABILITY.
IN OUR CONTRACT WITH HSD.
SO OUTREACH PROVIDERS ARE
FOLLOWING THE STANDARDS WE SET
UP FOR THEM BUT HAPPEN TO BE
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT STANDARD
THAN THROUGH MY LEADERSHIP, IN
PREVIOUS YEARS, AFTER THE CITY
AUDITORS RECOMMENDATIONS, WE
IDENTIFIED A DIFFERENT SET.
OF REPORTING STANDARDS FOR THE
OLD NAVIGATION TEAM.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE FLEXIBILITY THAT YOU
REFERENCED?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
YOU WILL NOTE IN THE SECOND
PARAGRAPH, ALLOWING HSD TO
PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE METRIC.
AND THEN ASKS FOR INSTANCES
WHERE THE ALTERNATIVE METRIC IS
PROVIDED, THAT HSD GIVES
JUSTIFICATION AS TO WHY THAT
WOULD BE BETTER THAN WHAT WOULD
HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE TEAM.
AND THEN THE VERY END OF THE
NARRATIVE HERE, THE THREE BROAD
AREAS GIVES A SENSE OF IDEALLY
WHAT WILL BE REPORTED ON.
I.D.
LET THAT WILL PROVIDE GUARD
RAILS TO HSD, THERE NEEDS TO BE
SOME KIND OF A RELEVANCE HERE.
AND FOR SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, YOU
MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE
NAVIGATION TEAM, PREVIOUSLY
REPORTING ON THE NUMBER OF
CONTACTS.
THE WAY THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY
REPORTED WAS JUST REALLY ANY
LEVEL OF INTERACTION.
LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN UTILIZED AS
A MEASURE OF CONTACT, FOR THE
HOMELESSNESS OUTREACH PROVIDERS
THAT ARE CONTRACTED.
THERE IS A SITUATION WHERE
SOMEONE HAS MADE A FORMAL OR
INFORMAL ARRANGEMENT TO PERHAPS
TALK TO SOMEONE, AND THE
AVERAGE WORKER WOULD SAY I WILL
COME BACK TOMORROW AND WORK
WITH YOU AND TELL YOU WHAT IS
AVAILABLE.
AT THAT TIME WE NEED TO BE
CONSIDERED A CONTACT.
OR ANOTHER EXAMPLE, THE
NAVIGATION TEAM WOULD REPORT ON
THE NUMBER OF TIMES SOMEONE
REFERRED TO SHELTER AND ARRIVED
THERE WITHIN A CERTAIN
TIMEFRAME.
THE CONTRACT PROVIDERS WE ASK
THEM TO CURRENTLY PRINT BOARD
-- REPORT ON HOW MAY PEOPLE
ENTER PERMANENT HOUSING.
THOSE ARE WAYS THAT WE MAY SEE
VARIANCE.
I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHERS
BECAUSE THERE IS A RANGE THAT
THEY HAD BEEN REPORTING ON.
HOPEFULLY IT IS A USEFUL
EXAMPLE TO GET A SENSE OF THE
CHANGE.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES ,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> WERE YOU DONE, COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD?
LOOKED AT YET ANOTHER QUESTION.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH THE
SPONSOR, THAT THAT IS AN
ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF HIS
EXPECTATIONS AS WELL.
WE HEARD FROM THE, ONE OF THE
FOLKS WHO HAD BEEN IN MULTIPLE,
WEEKLY MEETINGS, WITH DEPUTY
MAYOR ABOUT THIS AND THEY NOTE,
AGAIN, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN
ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH DEPUTY
MAYOR AD OTHER BRANCH STAFF,
IN AN ATTEMPT TO DEVELOP AN
AGREED-UPON TRANSPARENT USEFUL
PROCESS TO SUPPORT GOOD QUALITY
REFERRALS AND SERVICE
CONNECTION.
WE HAVE RAISED THE MATTER OF
COLLECTING GOOD AND USEFUL DATA
IN THESE DISCUSSIONS.
WE JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WITH
THE SPONSOR OF THIS, THAT HE
AGREES THERE IS FLEXIBILITY
BUILT INTO MEMORIALIZE THE
AGREEMENTS THAT THE ADVOCATES
ARE WORKING ON WITH THE
EXECUTIVE HSD AND DEPUTY MAYOR
ON WHAT WE SHOULD BE REPORTING
OUT ON.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
AGAIN THIS IS A STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT, RATHER THAN
A PROVISO.
YES, THAT IS WHY IT IS WRITTEN
AT A HIGH LEVEL, TO ALLOW FOR
THAT FLEX ABILITY.
-- FLEXIBILITY.
>> OKAY.
ANY ADDITIONAL FOLLOW-UPS DEMARK
OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M
HAVING TROUBLE WITH THIS ONE.
UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATED GOAL
IS TO TRACK OUTCOMES OF
H.O.P.E.
. BUT THE ROLE OF HSD HAS
REALLY SHIFTED FROM PROVIDING
DIRECT OUTREACH, TO COORDINATING
WITH AGENCIES, AS COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD SAID, AGENCIES
WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNITIES
WITH FOR MONTHS NOW.
THOSE ARE THE FOLKS ALREADY
DOING THIS WORK.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO
OUTCOMES THAT WOULD COME FROM
ANY TEAMS THAT HSD.
THEY ARE NOT DOING NETWORK.
THAT WORK.
WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE
CONTRACTS BUILT INTO THE
CONTRACT WITH THE CITY AND THEY
ARE REPORTED TO THE DEPARTMENT
ALREADY.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD REQUEST
THE INFORMATION FROM HSD.
BUT PROVIDERS HAVE A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT
SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES ARE.
SO THAT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED IN
COOPERATION WITH PROVIDERS AND
THE CITY.
CERTAINLY I WOULD BE HAPPY TO
WORK WITH COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN AND PROVIDERS IN THE
EXECUTIVE ON WHAT THAT LOOK
LIKE.
AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO
SAY IS, THE THIRD CRITERIA FOR
DATA IN THIS SLIDE, IT HONESTLY
SEEMS ANTI-HOMELESS AND SEEMS
AND ENCAMPMENTS ARE DANGEROUS.
AND WHILE IT IS TRUE THAT
PEOPLE HAVE FIRES AND COOK, USE
THE RESTROOM, THAT IS HUMAN
BEHAVIOR.
IF THEY DO NOT DO THOSE THINGS
THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE.
ESPECIALLY NOW DURING THE
WINTER, PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY
MAKING THE CHOICE OF PERHAPS
MAKING A FIRE IN THEIR TENT OR
FREEZING.
GIVEN THAT CHOICE I WOULD MAKE
A FIRE MYSELF.
I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT
WHAT DATA WE ARE COLLECTING AND
FOR WHAT PURPOSE.
COLLECTING DATA ON HAZARDS WILL
ONLY SERVE TO FUEL THE IDEA
THAT HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE
DANGEROUS AND POTENTIALLY BE
USED TO WEAPON I CITY RESOURCES
AGAINST FOLKS LIVING ON HOUSE.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO
REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE MANY
TIMES MORE HAZARDOUS AND UNSAFE
CONDITIONS IN PEOPLE'S HOMES,
REGULAR PEOPLE'S HOMES, YOURS
AND MINE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE
QUARTERLY REPORTS ON WHAT IS
DANGEROUS IN OUR HOME.
I'M NOT SURE WHY IT MAKE SENSE
TO HAVE FOLKS EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS TO MAKE THOSE
REPORTS EITHER.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
MEMBER MORALES.
I AM NOT SEEING ADDITIONAL
HANSEN WILL CHIME IN QUICKLY IF
THAT IS OKAY.
THEN CUT MEMBER PEDERSEN IS
WELCOME TO HAVE THE LAST WORD.
I ALSO SEE COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS.
I WILL ALSO SAY THIS ONE IS NOT
WHAT I AM INCLINED TO SUPPORT
TODAY.
INITIALLY I WASN'T SUPPORTIVE
OF IT BECAUSE AS YOU MAY KNOW
AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY
KNOW I HAVE BEEN BATTLING WITH
HSD TO GET MORE METRICS FOR
ALMOST TWO YEARS.
APPROXIMATELY 18 MONTHS OR SO
WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN A
DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT HOW
TO HAVE A DASHBOARD OF KEY
INDICATORS AND THOSE KEY
INDICATORS SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED
BY THE PROVIDERS.
AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE DIRECTLY
ON THE GROUND.
HELPING TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS
TRULY A METRIC OF SUCCESS.
I AM VERY CONCERNED BY THE WAY
IN WHICH INFORMATION HAS BEEN
PROVIDED FROM THE DEPARTMENT TO
THE COUNCIL IN THE PAST.
NOT LOOKING UP WHAT TRUE
INDICATORS OF GREATER HOUSING
STABILITY AND SUCCESSFUL
TRANSITION INTO SHELTERS AND
HOUSING IS BEING DEFINED.
I AM ABSOLUTELY ON BOARD WITH
WANTING MORE DATA.
WE HAVE HAD 18 MONTHS OF
ENGAGEMENT TO TRY TO GET THE
TYPE OF DATA THAT PROVIDERS AND
FRONT-LINE WORKERS HAVE BOTH
SAID THEY THINK IS A GREAT
EXAMPLE TO SHOW WHETHER
PROGRAMS ARE BEING SUCCESSFUL.
RIGHT NOW IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO
GET THAT INFORMATION FROM HSD,
I'M CONCERNED THAT WE ARE NOW
IMPOSING SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS
A ETTRICK OF QUOTE SUCCESS,
WITH HOW WE SHOULD BE
EVALUATING THE SUCCESS.
I THINK IT IS A NOT NOW BUT
HOPEFULLY SOON WE WILL PROVIDE
AND HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF HOW
WE CAN GET THE DATA.
I HAVE A CONTINUED COMMITMENT
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FOLLOW-
UP IN SOME WAYS IN WHICH THE
PROVIDERS THEMSELVES HAVE SAID
LET'S EVALUATE SUCCESS FROM
VARIOUS METRICS THAT TRULY GET
TO OUR GOAL.
WHICH IS GREATER HOUSING
STABILITY AND MORE FOLKS
SHELTERED.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, AND
THEN COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN I
WILL PUT YOU AT THE END.
>> THANK YOU.
I WAS TRYING TO PULL OF AN
AUDIT RIGHT NOW.
IF COUNCIL PRESIDENT WANTS TO
GO FORWARD AND GO AHEAD ME.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> SURE.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT
THIS PARTICULAR SLI.
AND THEY MIGHT BE MORE
APPROPRIATELY DIRECTED AT JEFF,
THAN THE SPONSOR, BUT OF COURSE
I AM HAPPY TO HILLER COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN'S PERSPECTIVE,
IF HE HAS ONE.
ON THIS PARTICULAR SLI, I AM A
LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THE
INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE USED
FOR.
I THINK THERE HAS BEEN IN SOME
OF THE COMMENTS I AM HEARING,
THERE SEEMS TO BE A INSINUATION
OR CONCERN, I WOULD SAY, AT THE
INFORMATION HAS BEING REQUESTED
THROUGH COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN
THROUGH THIS SLI IS SOMEHOW
GOING TO BE USED AS THE
METRICS OF SUCCESS.
FOR OUTREACH, OUTREACH AND
ENGAGEMENT, TO UNSANCTIONED
ENCAMPMENTS.
AND I AM NOT SURE THAT THAT IS
TRUE.
SO CAN YOU, JEFF, MAYBE SORT OF
WALK ME THROUGH WHAT THE SLI'S
EFFECT IS, AS IT RESPONDS TO
METRICS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE
ARE WILL HAVE IN PLACE AT HDS
USES TO EVALUATE ITS CONTRACTS
WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS, VERSUS
WHAT IS IN THIS SLI AND THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS SLI.
>> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, I
DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD
RESULT, THAT THIS DATA IN THE
LEGISLATIVE ATTEMPT WOULD
RESULT IN HSD RENEGOTIATING
THEIR CONTRACTS WITH CONTRACTED
PROVIDERS TO START PROVIDING
DIFFERENT INFORMATION.
AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THERE
IS GOING TO BE A TRANSITION TO
THE REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS
AUTHORITY THIS YEAR, SEEING
THOSE KINDS OF DELAYS RIGHT NOW
SEEMS UNLIKELY TO ME.
BUT THAT IS POTENTIALLY WHAT,
HOW THEY COULD APPROACH THIS.
IF THERE WAS A DESIRE TO MAKE
SURE THAT METRICS WERE EXACTLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD
HAPPEN.
AND OTHERWISE THIS WOULD BE A
WAY TO RECEIVE THE SAME METRICS
THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN
RECEIVING FOR THE LAST TWO
YEARS AT THE NAVIGATION TEAM.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE ARE
NOT PREVIOUSLY REPORTING, SO
THAT WOULD BE THINGS LIKE THE
NUMBER OF REMOVAL OF AN
ENCAMPMENT THAT OCCURRED.
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE
ENGAGED THROUGH OUTREACH
ACTIVITIES PRIOR TO THE
REMOVALS.
AND THE EXAMPLES I GAVE EARLIER
ABOUT CONTACTS AND THE SHELTER
REFERRALS.
I THINK THE COUNCIL USE THAT
INFORMATION TOWARDS THE
DELIBERATIONS AROUND THE ON
SHELTERED RESPONSES.
BUT I DO NOT THINK THAT -- I
CANNOT SPEAK TO HOW THE COUNCIL
WOULD USE THAT INFORMATION.
>> OKAY.
AND THEN MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN, IF YOU HAVE SOME
THOUGHTS ON YOUR INTENDED USE
FOR THE INFORMATION, THAT WOULD
HELP ME MOVE FORWARD TO
UNDERSTAND.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK JEFF, IN
TERMS OF YOUR RESPONSE, WHAT I
AM HEARING IS THIS SLI IS
ASKING FOR A BODY OF
INFORMATION THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL HAS HISTORICALLY
RECEIVED OR WANTED TO RECEIVE
AND IN SOME CASES DID NOT
RECEIVE.
AND BUT THAT DOES NOT TRANSLATE
INTO A MODIFICATION OF THE
METRICS THAT HSD IS USING TO
EVALUATE THE PERFORMANCE OF
OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT TO
UNSANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS.
>> I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE
CORRECT.
UNLESS THE CONTRACTS ARE
CHANGED, THE WAY THAT THE
OUTREACH PROVIDERS ARE MEASURED
IS THAT THERE IS THE ABILITY TO
PRIMARILY CONNECT PEOPLE WITH
EMERGENCY SHELTER.
THAT IS THE PRIMARY METRIC AS
THE GUIDE AT THIS POINT.
THERE OTHER THINGS A REPORT
ABOUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
THAT IS THE PRIMARY WAY THAT
THE OUTREACH PROVIDERS ARE
JUDGED.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY
RECEIVED PERFORMANCE PAY.
OR PERFORMANCE PENALTIES.
BASED ON THOSE RESULTS.
I WOULD NEED TO CONFIRM THAT
WITH HSD BECAUSE I'M NOT
ENTIRELY CERTAIN OF THAT.
I DO NOT GIVE A CHANGE.
>> THANK YOU.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN,
IS THERE ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN
TELL US ABOUT INTENT OF WHAT
YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THE
INFORMATION?
>> YES.
YES.
AND ACTUALLY COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ, YOU SUMMED IT UP
PRECISELY AS TO WHAT THE INTENT
IS HERE, TO CONTINUE TO GATHER
INFORMATION ON THIS IMPORTANT
MATTER.
AND YOU KNOW I WOULD SAY THAT
YOU KNOW, I DISAGREE WITH THE
CHARACTERIZATION FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER MORALES.
I THINK THAT WE SHARE A DESIRE
TO REDUCE HOMELESSNESS, AND TO
HELP THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS.
AND WE NEED TO KNOW HOW WE ARE
DOING.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS
LETTING US KNOW HOW THINGS ARE
GOING.
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE TWEAKING
HOW THAT IS DONE.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
KEEP CONTINUING TO GET
INFORMATION, TO KNOW HOW WELL
WE ARE DOING TO IMPROVE THE
LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
SUFFERING ON THE STREETS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT I ASK
THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WAS
KIND OF ON THE FENCE BETWEEN
WHETHER I WANTED TO SUPPORT
THIS OR NOT SUPPORT THIS
PARTICULAR SLI.
AND I HEAR THE ARGUMENTS, BOTH
IN FAVOR OF THE SLI, AND
OPPOSED TO THE SLI, AND I
THINK I AM INCLINED TO SUPPORT
THIS PARTICULAR SLI TODAY,
KNOWING THAT THERE IS
ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY AROUND
MAKING SURE THAT THIS DOES NOT
ENCUMBER THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT
ARE RELATED TO ACTUAL METRICS.
AND POTENTIALLY YOU KNOW
REVISING THIS, THERE IS
OPPORTUNITY FOR US, I THINK IT
IS IN DECEMBER THAT WE PASS ALL
OF THE SLY -- SLI THAT COME
OUT OF THIS.
SO THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PERHAPS TWEAK THIS DOWN THE
ROAD TO BETTER GET THE
NEGOTIATIONS GOING, PROVIDING
WITH THE PROVIDER AND EXECUTIVE.
I WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT
POSITION ON THIS SLI IF IT WAS
MORE THAN JUST GATHERING
INFORMATION.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF THIS SLI WAS
ACTUALLY INTENDED TO MODIFY THE
METRICS AND MEASUREMENTS THAT
WE ARE APPLYING TO THE NEW,
THE NEW ORDER OF HOW WE ARE
DOING ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH
TO UNSANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS, I
WOULD BE MUCH MORE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES OR EFFECT OF THE
PARTICULAR SLI.
BUT I AM NOT HEARING THAT THAT
IS WHAT THE INTENT IS AND I AM
NOT HEARING THAT THAT IS WHAT
THE EFFECT OF THE LANGUAGE AS
DRAFTED IN THIS SLI WOULD DO.
SO, AGAIN, I COULD GO EITHER
WAY ON THIS ONE BUT BASED ON
THE INFORMATION I AM HEARING
AND CONVERSATION WE HAVE HAD IN
COMMITTEE, I AM GOING TO ERR ON
THE SIDE OF WANTING MORE
INFORMATION RATHER THAN LESS,
AND SUPPORT THIS SLI TODAY.
THANK YOU CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS AND THAT
I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR AND COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD.
COUNCIL MEMBER PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ, I WAS LOOKING UP
DAVID JONES' AUDIT ON
HOMELESSNESS CONTRACTS THAT HE
PRESENTED TO US EARLIER THIS
YEAR.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS,
RECOMMENDATION 10, HUMAN
SERVICES DEPARTMENT SHOULD
EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF
MOVING HOMELESS STRATEGY AND
DATA MODELS TO A DATABASE
FORMAT BECAUSE ONE OF MY
CONCERNS WITH THIS SLI WAS THAT
WE WOULD EITHER BE CHANGING THE
TYPE OR NOT LINING UP THE DATA
THAT WE WANT TO GET OR ASKING
FOR DATA THAT DOES NOT
NECESSARILY NECESSARY.
I WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH JEFF,
WILL THE DATE OF BE COLLECTED
WITH OR WITHOUT THIS SLI?
>> SORRY.
I LANDED ON THE MUTE BUTTON
THERE.
SO IN REGARDS TO BE CONTRACTED
OUTREACH PROVIDERS, THE
INFORMATION THAT THEY CURRENTLY
PROVIDE, ASSUMING THAT HSD DID
NOT DECIDE TO CHANGE THE
CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS AND
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, WOULD
CONTINUE AND BE LARGELY SOME OF
THE EXAMPLES I GAVE NOW.
THE CONTACT, NOT THE SAME AS
NUMBER OF CONTACTS REPORTED BY
THE NAVIGATION TEAM, REFERS TO
SHELTER, REPORT CURRENTLY ON
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
REFERRED TO SHELTER AND WHAT
PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL
CASELOAD THAT ENTAILS.
A REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT ENTER PERMANENT
HOUSING, GIVING YOU THE
ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT WOULD
CONTINUE ASSUMING THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO CONTRACTS.
I CANNOT SPEAK TO WHETHER THE
INFORMATION ON H.O.P.E.
ITSELF, WOULD CONTINUE TO BE
COLLECTED.
THE NAVIGATION TEAM WENT
THROUGH AND HAD THREE
SPECIALISTS THAT WERE PART OF
THE TEAM.
THAT IS REDUCED NOW PRESUMABLY
TO ONE.
I DO NOT THINK THAT WE KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT THE JOB
DESCRIPTIONS WILL BE.
THEY DEVELOPED A NAFF APP, TO
HAVE REAL-TIME ENTRY BY SYSTEM
NAVIGATORS THAT WERE HSD
EMPLOYEES.
THERE WAS ALSO ASSESSMENTS OF
ENCAMPMENTS AND TRACKING THE
ACTIVITIES OF REMOVAL.
I DON'T KNOW THE DEGREE TO
WHICH THE TEAM WILL EITHER
STILL REQUIRE THE METRICS, OR
SUCH METRICS WOULD STILL BE
APPLICABLE.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE DESIRE FOR
A REFOCUS HERE.
I ALSO CANNOT SPEAK TO WHAT
WOULD BE COLLECTED GOING
FORWARD OR NOT.
THERE WOULD NOT BE A FORMAL
LEGISLATIVE REQUEST TO RECEIVE
QUARTERLY REPORTS.
THOUGH AS ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS
ARE AWARE, THAT DOES NOT
PRECLUDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
REACH OUT TO HSD OR THE
EXECUTIVE AND REQUEST SPECIFICS.
>> THANK YOU, JEFF.
THAT WAS HELPFUL.
BECAUSE IT DOES SOUND LIKE
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN, MAYBE
COULD SPEAK TO THIS, IT DOES
SOUND LIKE WHAT YOU ARE
REQUESTING IS MORE OF A
PERFORMANCE AUDIT, RATHER, BUT
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN
OCCUR QUARTERLY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU AND RIGHTLY
SO WANT TO KNOW HOW WELL IS THE
TEAM PERFORMING.
ARE WE MEETING OUR GOALS?
ARE WE DOING IT RIGHT?
BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT
IF WE HAVE FIELD OFFICERS
REPORTING QUARTERLY AS WE
PROGRESS THROUGH TIME THAT WILL
BE PUT THROUGH AS ROBUST AND
ANALYSIS FRAMEWORK AS WE WOULD
IF WE WERE HAVING A PERFORMANCE
AUDIT.
LOOKING BACK ON THE YEAR.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT A
LITTLE BIT?
>> SO, THIS STATEMENT OF LECH
LATE OF ATTENT IS NOT AN AUDIT
BUT IT IS COLLECTING BASIC
INFORMATION.
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO
ASK OUR CITY AUDITOR TO LOOK
INTO THINGS IF WE WANT TO.
AND THAT THIS IS NOT THE INTENT
OF THIS SLI, BUT THIS IS TO
CONTINUE THAT WE ARE COLLECTING
INFORMATION.
I KNOW THAT WE HAD VARYING
VIEWS AT DIFFERENT TIMES ABOUT
HOW WELL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS
GET INFORMATION TO US.
SO THIS IS JUST THE COUNCIL
SAYING, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO
GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN.
THAT IS HELPFUL.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WHEN WE
REQUEST DATA PUT IN, IT IS
JUST PRESENTED AND DOES NOT GO
THROUGH A ROBUST ANALYSIS, THAT
IS A SERVICE OF THE AUDITOR
THAT HE PUTS IT AND HIS TEAM
PUTS IT THROUGH A ROBUST
FRAMEWORK.
SO THAT WE ARE NOT JUST MAKING
SUBJECTIVE GUESSES OFF OF ONE
TIME AND POINT DATA POINTS.
RATHER LOOKING AT THE WHOLE
COMPREHENSIVE DATA SET.
SO YOUR FEEDBACK IS HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
>> IF I MAY ADD TO THAT.
THE COLLECTION DATA WILL BE
IMPORTANT FOR ADDITIONAL
ANALYSIS, IF THAT IS WHAT OTHER
COUNCIL MEMBERS WHILE.
THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF THIS,
TO COLLECT THE DATA, MAKING
SURE IT IS PROVIDED BY THE
EXECUTIVE.
AS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT SAID
THE MORE DATA THE BETTER TO
GIVE US FLEXIBILITY ON JUST
KNOWING WHAT IS GOING ON.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS AND
THEN COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ AND
THEN COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT AND
THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
ME MAKE SURE I NOTE THAT.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
LEWIS, GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
I WILL BRIEFLY WEIGH IN SO
WEEKEND, IT SOUNDS LIKE ALL
NINE OF US WILL WEIGH IN ON
THIS ONE.
WHICH IS GREAT.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE
MORE DATA AND MORE INFORMATION
AS WE DEAL WITH THIS REALLY
CRITICAL WORK.
I THINK THERE IS A COUPLE OF
IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER.
I THINK THE POINT IS THAT
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES RAISED
EARLIER IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND
WE SHOULD BE VIGILANT AS A
COUNCIL AS WE GO THROUGH THIS
NEW MODEL AND PROCESS THROUGH
OUTREACH TO REALLY HOLD OUR
GROUND TO MAINTAIN A NEW
STRATEGY THAT LEADS WITH
ENGAGEMENT.
THAT EMPHASIZES MITIGATION, AS
A STRATEGY. AND JUST IS FRANKLY
MORE PRAGMATIC GIVEN THE
RESOURCES WE HAVE.
AND THEN WE HAVE AN INFLUX OF
THE TRADITIONAL SHELTER AND
HOUSING NECESSARY TO
MEANINGFULLY GIVE PEOPLE AN
INCREDIBLE OFFER OF SHELTER AND
NAVIGATE THEM FROM UN-
SHELTERED, FROM AN UN-SHELTERED
ENCAMPMENT TO A PLACEMENT LIKE
THAT.
WHERE IN THE MEANTIME IT MEANS
ENGAGING IN STRATEGIES TO
MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF SOME OF
THESE ENCAMPMENTS.
I AM ENGAGING IN THE KIND OF
PROGRAMS WE ARE REPOSING AROUND
GARBAGE COLLECTING, FOR
EXAMPLE.
AND I AM ENGAGING IN INCREASED
INVESTMENTS IN OUR OUTREACH
PROVIDER COMMUNITY.
I DO NOT THINK THE GOALS ARE
MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH THE DATA
WE WILL BE REQUESTING HERE.
THE DATA IN AND OF ITSELF, DOES
NOT, IS NOT BIASED TOWARD A
PARTICULAR POLICY PRESCRIPTION.
AND THE DATA CAN BE USED BY
THIS COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THE
KINDS OF INTERVENTIONS THAT WE
CONTINUE AS A POLICYMAKING
MAJORITY, TO ADVOCATE FOR.
IT IS TRUE THAT OPPONENTS OF
THE STRATEGIES COULD USE IT TO
TRY TO ADVOCATE FOR A MORE
SWEEPSTAKES PROPOSAL.
BUT THEY WILL DO THAT ANYWAY.
AND WE WOULD ALSO ARGUE THAT I
THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST POINTS
OF RESENTMENT AGAINST THE
COMPASSIONATE, A COMPASSIONATE
CITY POLICY ON HOMELESSNESS,
HAS BEEN A FRANKLY INACCURATE
PERCEPTION FROM FOLKS THAT WE
DON'T ASK FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY
FROM THE PROVIDER COMMUNITY.
OR THAT WE DON'T AGGREGATE AND
COLLECT DATA.
ALL OF WHICH IS UNTRUE.
AND I THINK THAT THIS PROPOSAL
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN
HELPS TO FURTHER DISCREDIT THE
CONSPIRACY THAT WILL UNDERMINE
MORE HUMANE APPROACHES AND
FEEDS INTO THAT NARRATIVE IF
THE COUNCIL WERE TO OVERTLY
REJECT A PROPOSAL TO CREATE MORE
AGGREGATION AND SHARING OF DATA.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS I DO
SUPPORT THIS TODAY.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE
REQUESTING FROM HSD, THIS
INFORMATION, BUT THE POLICY
PRESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT COMES TO
IT WILL BE UP TO US.
SO I THINK ALSO GIVEN THE FACT
THAT THERE IS FLEXIBILITY BUILT
INTO THIS, AS MENTIONED
EARLIER, TO BEND THESE REPORTS,
TO THE CONSENSUS THAT WE REACH
ANY ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
AND THE PROVIDER COMMUNITY AND
THAT IT IS NOT UNDULY SUBSCRIPT
OF, MEANS THAT IT WILL JUST
HELP FURTHER ENHANCE THAT
SHARED MISSION.
SO I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS
TODAY.
KNOWING THAT IT REALLY IS JUST
A METHOD TO COLLECT AND
AGGREGATE DATA.
ANY POLICY DECISIONS ARE THINGS
THAT WE HEAR ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO DECIDE DOWN THE ROAD ON OUR
OWN.
SEPARATE FROM THIS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL
MEMBER LEWIS.
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES, I SAW
YOUR HAND.
YOU ARE IN THE QUEUE AS WELL.
NEXT IS COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES.
I BELIEVE YOU HAD A QUESTION.
>> YES.
I DID.
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> I APOLOGIZE.
I WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL
MEMBER PEDERSEN FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD AND THANK COUNCIL
MEMBER MORALES FOR THE COMMENTS
AND CONCERNS THAT SHE RAISED.'S
ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST IN OUR
MINDS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A
PARTICULAR DATA, IF THERE IS A
POTENTIAL WEAPON RISING OF
THIS.
I WILL BE SURE.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THE BURDEN OF
COLLECTING THIS DATA I'LL LYSE
THE BENEFITS OF RECOVERING AND
EVALUATING DATA, TO FUND AND
PROVIDE MORE TARGETED AND
NEEDED SERVICES TO OUR AND
SHELTERED NEIGHBORS.
I THINK THIS IS A CONTINUATION
OF OUR APPROACH OF SHELTERING
THE AND SHELTERED.
I SAID IT BEFORE THAT THIS IS MY
TAGLINE FOR THE ISSUES AND THE
LINES I LOOK AT IS THAT IT IS
VALUE LEAD AND DATA INFORMED.
I WANT TO CONTINUE AT THE VALUE
LEAD, THE HUMIDITY AND THE
COMPASSION.
AND ALSO THE SOLUTIONS.
I AM ALSO GLAD THAT COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD WEIGHED IN ON
THE ISSUE OF FLEXIBILITY.
THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT I WAS
CONCERNED ABOUT AS WELL.
FOR THOSE REASONS I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
JUAREZ.
NEXTEP IS COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
>> THANK YOU.
I THINK IN GENERAL, OF COURSE,
SPEAKING AS SOMEBODY WHO BASES
THE WORK OF MY OFFICE IN
STATISTICAL ANALYSIS, AND
ECONOMICS, I AM ALWAYS FOR MORE
DATA AND MORE THOROUGH ANALYSIS.
I THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE
THOUGH BECAUSE FIRST AND
FOREMOST WE DON'T NEED MORE
DATA.
THERE IS A LOT OF DATA AND
REPORTING OUT THERE.
WHAT WE HAVE HAD A SEVERE LACK
OF HIS MATERIAL RESOURCES,
FUNDS FOR ORGANIZATIONS TO
PROVIDE THESE SERVICES IN THE
UNDERLYING REASONS FOR WHY
THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE EVEN IN
EXISTENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE TO
PROVIDE SERVICES, BECAUSE OF
THE BROKEN SOCIETY THAT WE
HAVE.
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.
PROGRESSIVELY MAKING MORE AND
MORE PEOPLE FOR HOMELESS,
SKYROCKETING RENTS.
THE CRISIS IN HEALTHCARE,
BECAUSE OF LACK OF MEDICARE FOR
ALL AND LACK OF HEALTHCARE THAT
BECOMES AN INSTIGATOR OF THE
HOMELESSNESS SITUATION THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE FACE DUE TO NO
FAULT OF THEIRS.
SO I THINK OVERALL THE IDEA OF
DEMANDING MORE AND MORE
REPORTING ACTUALLY UNDERLYING
ALL OF THAT IS THE IDEA,
PREMISED ON THE IDEA THAT WE
COULD DO A BETTER JOB IF ONLY
WE HAD BETTER REPORTING FROM
NON-PROFITS AND BETTER
CREDIBILITY.
I AM ALL ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY
AND WE SHOULD HAVE
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE MAYOR
AND CITY COUNCIL OF EVERY CITY.
BUT THE NONPROFITS OVER WELL,
THE OVERWHELMING PROBLEM THEY
FACE IS NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT
BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE AS TO
HOW TO USE THEIR FUNDS.
IT IS THE OVERWHELMING PROBLEM
THEY FACE TO SIMPLY NOT HAVE
RESOURCES TO DEAL WITH THE
SCALE OF THE PROBLEM THEY ARE
ASKED TO DEAL WITH.
THEY ARE ALWAYS ASKED TO PUT
MORE AND MORE RESOURCES INTO
JUSTIFYING THEIR EXISTENCE.
THAT IS THE UNDERLYING PRESENT
PREMISE, WHETHER ADMITTED OR
NOT.
AND DEMANDING MORE AND MORE
REPORTING.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
AND THE OTHER THING, THE
AMENDMENT ACTUALLY SAYS THE
REPORT WILL BE SIMILAR TO
PREVIOUSLY REPORTED HDS, AND
THAT IS A NONSTARTER AS FAR AS
I'M CONCERNED.
ANY REPORTING THAT HAS HAPPENED
WITH THE NAVIGATION TEAM HAS
BEEN PITIFUL.
IMPACT THAT IS BEEN AN
OVERARCHING FEATURE OF THE
WHOLE SWEEPING OF HOMELESS
PEOPLE APPROACH.
THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE
ACCOUNTABILITY WHERE IT IS
ACTUALLY NOT HELPING PEOPLE.
SERVICES LIKE TINY HOUSE
VILLAGES, 24 HOUR SHELTERS, THE
URBAN REST STOP, THAT SHOWS
THESE THINGS WORK.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE
NEEDED, SO FOR ALL REASONS I
WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
SAWANT.
NEXT IS COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> I WANTED TO WRAP UP BECAUSE
I THINK IN MY LINE OF
QUESTIONING I DID NOT MAKE
CLEAR MY INTENT TO SUPPORT THIS
SLI.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE
VIEWING PUBLIC, AND COUNCIL
MEMBERS, THAT THE ITEMS THAT WE
HAVE ASKED THE NAVIGATION TEAM
TO REPORT ON, AND TO DO SO
QUARTERLY, AND THE DATA POINTS,
IS THAT THE DATA POINTS THAT
THE CITY AUDITOR IDENTIFIED AS
IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONSIDER
WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF WHETHER
OR NOT THE NAVIGATION TEAM WAS
NEEDING ITS THEORY OF CHANGE.
AND IT IS BECAUSE WE RECEIVED
THESE REPORTS ON THESE DATA
POINTS, THAT WE HAVE BEEN
ADVOCATES FOR THIS NEW MODEL.
IT IS THROUGH THE REPORTING
PROCESS, AS WELL AS THROUGH
FOLKS.
CONTACTING US, THE THINGS THAT
WE SEE, AS IT RELATES TO THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THE NAVIGATION
TEAM.
THAT WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR
REFORM AND CHANGE.
AND SO I THINK WITH IN THIS
CONCEPT OF CONTINUOUS
IMPROVEMENT I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO GET
INFORMATION ON THE FUNCTIONING
OF THIS NEW APPROACH.
AND I APPRECIATE HEARING FROM
THE SPONSOR THAT HE IS NOT TIED
TO THIS PARTICULAR SET OF DATA
POINTS.
THAT WILL ALLOW THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, HSD, AND PROVIDERS TO
CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
ABOUT WHAT THE RIGHT DATA
POINTS ARE, SO WE CAN CONTINUE
TO AGAIN EVALUATE THE NEW MODEL
WITH A GOAL OF CONTINUOUS
IMPROVEMENT BOTH AS IT RELATES
TO OUTCOMES FOR PEOPLE LIVING
OUTSIDE AND OUTCOMES TO PEOPLE
WHO ARE HOUSED AND LIVING
AROUND PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING
OUTSIDE.
I THINK THIS ENDEAVOR IS ABOUT
COLLECTING INFORMATION THAT IS
FRIENDLY.
I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANYBODY.
I READ THE STATEMENT THAT WE
RECEIVED FROM A REPRESENTATIVE
OF THE PROVIDER COMMUNITY, THAT
IS IN THESE CONVERSATIONS.
THEY ARE NOT ADVERSE TO
REPORTING OUT ON OUTCOMES AND
ALLOWING HSD TO CONTINUE TO
COMMUNICATE WITH US ON WHAT
THEY ARE SEEING OUT IN THE
FIELD.
THEY ARE NOT ADVERSE TO THE
REPORTING PROCESS.
THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE THE ROOM
TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT
THE RIGHT DATA POINTS ARE TO
úREPORT ON.
SO, GIVEN AGAIN THE SPONSORS
FLEXIBILITY, I THINK THAT
REALLY ANSWERS ANY CONCERNS
THAT I'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER SO FAR.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT SUMMARY,
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES, YOU ARE
NEXT.
>> THANKS.
I WILL BE BRIEF.
I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
FOR ME, THE QUESTION REALLY
COMES DOWN TO INTENT.
YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE AS
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD JUST
SAID, THE STATE ALREADY EXISTS
AND CONTRACTORS ARE REPORTING
ON THESE DELIVERABLES REGULARLY
FROM HST.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND,
ESPECIALLY IF THE INTENT IS TO
COLLECT INFORMATION, WHY LAY
OUT A SET OF CRITERIA?
YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF JUST
ASKING FOR QUARTERLY REPORTS
FROM HST?
I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT WE
ARE COLLECTING IT FOR WHAT
PURPOSE?
HOW WILL THE DATA BE USED?
THE AVENUE APP THAT HAS BEEN
USED, THAT HAS BEEN EXCLUSIVELY
USED BY HST STAFF.
SO YOU KNOW THE CONTRACTORS
WERE AT A BIT OF A DISADVANTAGE
BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT USE THAT
TOOL AND WERE HELD TO STANDARDS
THAT THEY WERE IMPEDED AT
REACHING.
AND I DO THINK THE LACK OF
SHELTER HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO
ACCOUNT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
THAT REFERRAL AND PLACEMENT AS
A MEASURE.
I THINK THE CHALLENGE I AM
HAVING IS A LOT OF THIS IS
ALREADY COLLECTED AND I DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHY A QUARTERLY
REPORT FROM HST DOES NOT
SUFFICE.
I AM STILL CONCERNED ABOUT HOW
THAT WE ARE NOT JUST COLLECTING
DATA FOR SAKE OF COLLECTING IT
BUT COLLECTING IT TO FIND MORE
MEANINGFUL SOLUTIONS AND TO
FIND MORE MEANINGFUL APPROACHES
TO DEALING WITH FOLKS DEALING
WITH HOMELESSNESS AND
CHALLENGES THEY FACE.
THAT SAID, SO, I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS.
AND, IF IT PASSES, I DO
H.O.P.E.
THAT THE PROVIDER COMMUNITY
WILL BE INVOLVED IN HELPING
CREATE WHATEVER THE MEASURES
ARE THAT MIGHT BE ADDED TO THE
REPORTING THEY ARE ALREADY
BEING ASKED TO DO.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES.
THAT IS THE END OF MY LIST OF
FOLKS THAT WANTED TO SPEAK UP.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN, THANK
YOU FOR GENERATING A ROBUST
DISCUSSION TODAY.
AGAIN I WANT TO UNDERSCORE WHEN
WE WERE WORKING ON THE OTHER
ELEMENTS THAT RELATED TO
HOMELESSNESS IN THIS BUDGET,
WHICH I AM PROUD OF, THANK YOU
OFFER VARIOUS LEVELS OF SUPPORT
FOR THE OUTREACH EFFORTS, AGAIN
WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FTE AND
TARGETED GEOGRAPHIC AREAS WHERE
WE SEE HIGH-END DISPROPORTIONATE
RATES OF FOLKS LIVING IN
SHELTERED.
WE HAVE INCLUDED ADDITIONAL,
AROUND $400,000 ADDITIONAL
DOLLARS SO THAT THOSE CAN BE
COMPLEMENTARY CITYWIDE TO DO
OUTREACH.
AND NOW WITH THE NEW H.O.P.E.
PROGRAM, IT IS NOT JUST
OUTREACH BUT GETTING FOLKS INTO
HOTELS, TEMPORARY SHELTER
OPTIONS AND ULTIMATELY GET TO
HOUSING.
AND WE HAVE MADE SURE THAT
THERE IS SUPPLEMENTARY FUNDING
AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE THE
NECESSARY CASE MANAGEMENT AND
STAFFING IN THOSE NEW SETTINGS,
TO THE TUNE OF OVER $2 MILLION.
SO ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS WE
CAREFULLY WORKED WITH THE
PROVIDERS AND CHECKING IN WITH
MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE TEAM
TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
WERE NOT UPSETTING THE BALANCE
OF THE DISCUSSIONS.
SO I APPRECIATE THE FOLKS THAT
HAVE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS AN
ONGOING CONVERSATION.
I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT'S REFERENCE TO THE
FACT THAT THERE WILL BE ANOTHER
BITE OF THE APPLE ON THIS IN
DECEMBER WHEN THE SLIDES COME
FORWARD.
I THINK THAT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT THOSE
CONVERSATIONS ARE ALLOWED TO
CONTINUE BECAUSE WHEN YOU
LAUNCH SOMETHING NEW IT IS
ALWAYS TENUOUS AND FEELS LIKE
THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD FAITH
RIGHT NOW FROM THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, AND WHAT COUNCIL IS
SHOWING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I
UNDERSCORE THE UNIFIED
COMMITMENT TO THE NEW MODEL
BEING PUT OUT THERE.
I AM STILL GOING TO ADDRESS
CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH
THE SPY, IN MY OPINION, -- WAY
IN WHICH THE SLI , IN MY
OPINION IS NOT ALL-INCLUSIVE.
I SEE THAT THERE IS OPPORTUNITY
TO ADD AS THE FINAL REPORTING
IS DONE.
FOR THE RECORD I WOULD LIKE TO
NOTE THAT AS THIS GETS EVOLVED,
I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSCORE SOME
THINGS WE HAVE HEARD DIRECTLY
FROM PROVIDERS, DESIRE TO MAKE
SURE THAT OVERALL MEASURES
TAKEN TO ACCOUNT THE PROFOUND
DOCK -- LACK OF SHELTER AND FOR
THOSE LIVING IN OUTDOOR PUBLIC
PLACES.
AND THAT THERE BE THE RACIAL
EQUITY ANALYSIS INCLUDED IN ANY
METRIC TOOLS THAT ARE USED.
RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS
IMPOSING UPON THE PROVIDERS TO
PROVIDE INFORMATION AS WELL TO
HST, SO THE REPORT CAN THEN BE
GENERATED TO COUNCIL, SOME OF
THE THINGS THAT I THINK
PROVIDERS AND HSD, AND I
H.O.P.E.
THAT THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR'S
OFFICE WILL CONTINUE TO UPLIFT
OUR ACCURATELY DESCRIBING THE
CURRENT AVAILABILITY OF
DIFFERENT TYPES OF SHELTER
SERVICES AND HOUSING.
AND BARRIERS TO ACCESSING THE
RESOURCES BECAUSE IT WAS NOT
UNTIL TWO YEARS AGO THAT WE
STARTED TO LEARN THAT ON
AVERAGE THERE WAS ONLY AROUND 5
TO 10 OPEN BEDS A NIGHT IN OUR
ENHANCED SHELTER.
I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY LOWER
THAN THAT, JEFF, IF I REMEMBER
CORRECTLY.
HE JUST POINTED UP A ONE, JUST
ONE BED OPEN ON AVERAGE, PER
NIGHT.
IN THE ENHANCED SHELTER.
AND THAT WAS AN EYE-OPENER.
HOW ARE WE EVALUATING PROVIDERS
WHOSE CONTRACTS AND FUNDING IS
RELIED ON THEM GETTING PEOPLE
INTO SHELTER.
AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE ENHANCED
SHELTER BED AVAILABLE IN THE
ENTIRE CITY ON AVERAGE PER
NIGHT.
THAT WAS IMPORTANT DATA AND I
THINK AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT THAT
IS NEEDED AS WE THINK ABOUT
REPORTING.
SO WE ARE NOT HOLDING PROVIDERS
TO A STANDARD THEY CANNOT MEET.
THE SECOND IS EXPLORING HOW TO
ACCESS MORE APPROPRIATE FAMILY
AND HOUSEHOLD SHELTERS AND
OPTIONS FOR THOSE RESOURCES SO
FAMILY STAY TOGETHER.
AGAIN WE EVALUATE PEOPLE AND
WHETHER THEY GOT INTO SHELTERS.
WHEN MAMIE -- WHEN MANY
FAMILIES DID NOT WANT TO BE
SEPARATED BY THEIR FAMILY,
THEIR PARTNER, THEIR CHILDREN
OR PETS.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE
EVALUATING WHEN THERE WAS NOT
APPROPRIATE TYPES OF SHELTER.
AND THEN LASTLY, APPROPRIATELY
DESCRIBING THE TYPES OF SUPPORT
THAT ARE NEEDED FOR PEOPLE THAT
ARE TRYING TO GET INTO SHELTER
AND HOUSING AND WHERE THERE IS
NOT THE WELL MATCHED AND
ACCESSIBLE SHELTER AND HOUSING
OPTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE FOLKS WHO
NEED PERMANENT SUPPORT, CASE
MANAGEMENT.
NOT JUST A ROOF ENDOR THAT IS
CRITICAL BUT ALSO A LOT OF
FOLKS THAT NEED ONGOING CASE
MANAGEMENT AND SERVICES SO WE
CAN BOTH DESCRIBE THE QUALITY OF
THE SHELTER WE ARE RECEIVING
AND NOT JUST THE NUMBER OF
FOLKS TO POTENTIALLY GETTING
ASSIGNED.
I THINK THAT THAT WILL HELP US
ACCOMPLISH VARIOUS GOALS THAT I
HEAR ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS
TALKING ABOUT IN MAKING SURE
PEOPLE ARE GETTING INSIDE BUT
STAYING INSIDE AND HAVING
RESOURCES THEY NEED.
IN ORDER TO GET HOUSING
STABILITY.
WITH THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN.
LAST COMMENTS.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I WANT TO THANK ALL COUNCIL
MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING
IN GOOD FAITH AND COLLECTIVELY
WITH THE EXECUTIVE TO REDUCE
HOMELESSNESS AND THROUGH
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS'
LEADERSHIP, THE INVESTMENTS AND
H.O.P.E.
THAT YOU SUPPORT THE
LEGISLATIVE INTENT TO GET
INFORMATION.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WITH THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE APPROVAL OF HLM-022-
A-001.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> NO.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> SAWANT.
>> NO.
>> STRAUSS
>> YES.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> YES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> JUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> NO.
>> SIX IN FAVOR AND THREE
OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND M-022-A-
001, IS APPROVED.
TO FOR THE CONVERSATION.
LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER
THREE IN THE GROUP C LIST HERE.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
BEFORE JEFF DESCRIBES THE ITEMS,
I WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS ITEM
AN ITEM 166, BOTH ASSUMED
PASSAGE OF ITEM 162, THAT WOULD
INCREASE THE PAYROLL TAX.
I WILL NOTE THE ITEMS CAN STILL
MOVE FORWARD BUT IF THEY ARE
ADOPTED, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER
ACTION NEEDED ON MONDAY, TO
OFFICIALLY AMEND AND PASS AS
AMENDED COUNCIL BILL 119590, TO
INCREASE THE PAYROLL TAX RATE.
I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT
TECHNICAL PEACE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALY
PENNUCCI.
JEFF, ARE YOU WALKING US
THROUGH?
>> I CAN WALK TO BOTH OF THESE.
THIS ITEM, HOM-023-A-001, AND B-
001, AND THE NOTE ON 23-A,
THEY BOTH INVEST THE SAME
AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
HOWEVER, THEY WOULD EXPAND TINY
HOME VILLAGES BEYOND WHAT IS
ALREADY CONTAINED WITH THE
BALANCING PACKAGE.
THE FUNDING SOURCE, WHICH IS
DIFFERENT, WHICH IS WHY IN 23-B,
THE CITY DECREASING THE
CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE EMERGENCY
FUND, IT ALSO IS ONE TIME.
IT IS NOT ONGOING.
23 CAPITAL A, THAT IS THE
INCREASE TO THE PAYROLL TAX.
BOTH ARE PREFERRED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER SAWANT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED AS THE SPONSOR
TO MOVE.
>> THANK YOU.
I MOVE TO ADD $7 MILLION OF
GENERAL FUND, 3 MILLION ONE
TIME, TO HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT, TO EXPAND TINY HOME
VILLAGES.
I HAVE SPOKEN AT LENGTH AS TO
WHY TINY HOME VILLAGES ARE
SUCCESSFUL.
I WILL NOT GO INTO DETAIL HERE.
WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE SAFE WITH
A DOOR AND LOCK SO YOU CAN SLEEP
SO THAT YOU WILL NOT BE
ATTACKED OR ROBBED.
THE ALIENATION, THAT MANY OF
OUR NEIGHBORS EXPERIENCE.
THEY ARE SOCIALLY DISTANCE,
WHICH IS IMPORTANT NOW, AND THE
BEST RECORD TO GET PEOPLE BACK
ON THEIR FEET WITH PERMANENT
HOUSING.
AS JEFF SAID, ALL OF THIS IS
RELEVANT TO BOTH THIS ITEM AN
UPCOMING AGENDA ITEM.
AND IN THE BALANCING PACKAGE,
WE HAVE ALREADY, THE CITY
COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED
FUNDING FOR THREE NEW TINY
HOUSE VILLAGES.
I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.
THANK TO EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL
AND WE KNOW THAT EVERY TINY
HOUSE THAT SEATTLE OPENS UP IS
IMMEDIATELY TAKEN UP BY SOMEONE
WHO WOULD BE SLEEPING IN FAR
LESS SAFE CONDITIONS.
MANY PEOPLE WANT ACCESS TO THE
VILLAGES AND WE DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH NUMBERS TO KEEP UP WITH
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO FEEL IT IS
THE SOLUTION THEY NEED ON THE
ROAD TO PERMANENT HOUSING.
OBVIOUSLY WE DO NOT PRETEND
THAT THE TOWNIE HOUSE VILLAGES
ARE A PERMANENT SOLUTION BUT IT
IS AN IMPORTANT AND HUMANE
SOLUTION WHILE PEOPLE ARE
HOMELESS.
AS FAR AS THE AMENDMENT IS
CONCERNED, AND THE FUNDING
SOURCE, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, IN
A CITY WITH SO MUCH WEALTH,
THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT
BUILD ALL THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING WE NEED.
AND IS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE
HOMELESS THERE SHOULD BE TINY
HOUSES.
THE SAME LOGIC APPLIES TO TINY
HOUSE FUNDING AS WELL.
WE HAVE A WEALTHY CITY AND
SHOULD BE ABLE TO FUND AS MUCH
AS ARE NEEDED.
AND AS PREPARING --
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK THAT
IS A HELPFUL SUMMARY.
I THINK WE ARE AT THE MOVING.
THANK YOU FOR THE SUMMARY.
IT RELATES TO BOTH OF THEM.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED.
IS THERE A SECOND?
OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT.
I AM NOT HEARING A SECOND.
DID YOU OFFICIALLY, I BELIEVE
YOU OFFICIALLY MOVED ITEM 164.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFICIALLY
MOVE 165?
>> YES.
I MOVE TO ADD $7 MILLION
GENERAL FUND DOLLARS ONE TIME
TO THE HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT TO EXPAND TINY HOME
VILLAGES AND CUT $7 MILLION ON
THE PROPOSED FUSION TO THE
CITY'S EMERGENCY FUND.
AS JEFF SAID THIS WOULD FUND
TINY HOUSE VILLAGES BY THE
AMOUNT THAT WAS IN THE EXACT
SAME PREVIOUS ITEM.
AS WE TALK TO VARIOUS AGENCIES,
WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE
EXPRESSED THEIR REASONS FOR WHY
THIS IS IMPORTANT.
I WILL SAY THAT I WILL CONTINUE
TO BELIEVE THAT THE FUNDING
SOURCE IN THE PREVIOUS AGENDA
ITEM IS THE BEST OPTION BECAUSE
IT WOULD BE INCREASING BY
MENISCAL AMOUNT, THE TAXES ON
BIG BUSINESS.
IT WOULD CREATE STABLE AND
ONGOING FUNDING.
BUT BECAUSE THAT DID NOT EVEN
GET A SECOND, I AM BRINGING
FORWARD THE ALTERNATIVE TO USE
$7.8 MILLION OF THE CITY'S $37
MILLION EMERGENCY RESERVES.
BECAUSE USING EMERGENCY FUNDS
IS A ONE-TIME FUNDING, THIS
WOULD REQUIRE THAT COUNCIL FIND
THIS IN THE FOLLOWING YEARS.
USING THE RESERVES AND A SMALL
PORTION WOULD MEET THE REAL
NEEDS OF THE ONGOING
EMERGENCIES THAT WE FACE.
I'VE FEEL THAT THEY ARE
JUSTIFIED.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT
I HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ON HOW
EMERGENCY RESERVES HAVE BEEN
DISCUSSED BY MANY COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT.
LET'S HOLD FOR DEBATE AND
DISCUSSION.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO APPROVEM-
023-BE-001.
IS THERE A SECOND?
HEARING NONE.
WE WILL CONTINUE.
ITEM NUMBER 166, PLEASE.
>> CENTRAL STAFF, I HAVE ITEM
CBA 08-007-A-001, SPONSORED BY
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT.
ADDING $800,000 IN GENERAL
FUNDS TO THE OH'S
WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM TO
INCREASE FUNDING FOR COVERING
HOMES FROM GAS OR OIL HEATING
TO ELECTRIC.
IF THIS CBA WERE APPROVED, IT
WOULD ADD THE ADDITIONAL
$800,000 TO THE $200,000 THAT
WAS INCLUDED AND APPROVED AS
PART OF THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED
AMENDING BALANCING PACKAGE
YESTERDAY.
THIS BUDGET ACTION WOULD
UTILIZE REVENUE FROM SEVERAL
COUNCIL LEGISLATION TO INCREASE
TAXES ON BIG BUSINESS ABOVE
ORDINANCE 106128.
>> THANK YOU.
CAN I CLARIFY?
IT WAS THE $200,000 THAT WAS
ADDED IN THE COUNCIL'S POST
BUDGETING PACKAGE.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
YES.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED TO MOVE THE ITEM.
>> THANK YOU. I
MOVE TO AT $800,000 IN GENERAL
FUND TO THE OFFICE OF HOUSING'S
WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM TO
INCREASE FUNDING FOR CONVERTING
HOMES FROM GAS OR OIL HEATING
TO ELECTRIC.
AND AS YOU SAID CORRECTLY,
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA, THE
INITIAL $200,000 FOR THIS
PURPOSE HAS ALREADY BEEN
INCLUDED IN THE BALANCING
PACKAGE AND WAS SUPPORTED BY
THE COUNCIL BOARD YESTERDAY.
WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD HAVE SEEN
MANY EMAILS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ORGANIZATIONS AND
SUPPORTERS LIKE 350 SEATTLE
DEMANDING THE CITY INVEST AN
ADDITIONAL $800,000 TO MAKE IT
$1 MILLION FOR THE GREEN NEW
DEAL FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW THE TAX WILL
--
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, JUST
AT THE MOTION RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU FOR THE CONTEXT.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED THAT THE
COUNCIL CONSIDER ADOPTION OF OH-
007-A-001.
IS THERE A SECOND?
HEARING NO SECOND.
NOW LET'S MOVE ONTO THE NEXT
ITEM, PLEASE.
SPD-007-A-001.
I SEE --
>> SORRY CHAIR.
I BELIEVE THAT MY COLLEAGUE GREG
DAWSON IS ON THE CALL TO
DESCRIBE THIS.
BE MY GUESS.
EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU.
>> YES, WE ARE ON SPD-007-A-001.
BY COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, AND
THIS PARTICULAR PROVISO WELL
ACTUALLY, IT WOULD IMPOSE TWO
IMPROV -- PROVISOS, ON THIS
PARTICULAR ACTION REQUEST THAT
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
WOULD REQUEST THAT THEY REQUIRE
THAT ALL ENCAMPMENT RESIDENCE
THAT WOULD BE MOVED WOULD BE
PLACED SPECIFICALLY IN A
SHELTER OR HOUSING OR BE
DIRECTED TO A CITY SANCTION
ENCAMPMENT OR ANOTHER NEARBY
LOCATION WHERE THEY MAY
REESTABLISH AN UNAUTHORIZED
ENCAMPMENT.
AND ALSO TO PROHIBIT THE
UNAUTHORIZED ENCAMPMENT WHOSE
RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TO
THE LOCATION DURING THE
PREVIOUS ENCAMPMENT REMOVAL.
SO, SPD COULD NOT REMOVE AND
ENCAMPMENT IF RESIDENTS HAD
PREVIOUSLY BEEN MOVED. AND THAT
IS THE SUMMARY OF THE ACTION.
>> OKAY.
CONSUL MEMBER SAWANT, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED TO MOVE THE ITEM.
COUNCIL MEMBER SAWANT, YOU ARE
ON MUTE.
>> SORRY.
I WAS SAYING THANK TO GREG FOR
READING OUT THE EXTRACTS OF THE
AMENDMENT LINK WHICH.
I THINK THAT THAT IS HELPFUL.
A MOVE TO IMPOSE TWO PROVISOS
ON SPD ENCAMPMENT REMOVAL.
I WILL JUST ADD THAT ALL TOO
OFTEN THE SWEEPS WHICH WE KNOW
ARE INHUMANE AND HAVE BEEN
INEFFECTIVE, WE HAVE MOUNTAINS
OF DATA TO SHOW THAT, ARE
CARRIED OUT INFORMALLY BY
POLICE OFFICERS JUST TELLING
PEOPLE TO MOVE.
YOU HAVE SEEN IT HAPPENING OVER
AND OVER AGAIN IN CAL ANDERSON
PARK WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE
PROCEDURES OR INSTRUCTIONS THAT
ARE SET UP FOR OTHER AGENCIES
AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
SO THIS PROVIDES THE ATTEMPT TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUE IN A
DIFFERENT WAY.
IT DOES NOT PREEMPT THE
DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW, WHEN, AND
IF ENCAMPMENTS ARE SWEPT.
THAT DEBATE NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO THAT
AND SAYS IF THE ENCAMPMENT IS
SWEPT FOR ANY REASON THAN THE
PEOPLE LIVING THERE MUST BE
OFFERED A LOCATION NEARBY THAT
THEY CAN MOVE TO.
AND IF THEY CAN MOVE THERE, IF
THEY MOVE THERE, SORRY, THEY
CANNOT BE MOVED AGAIN WITHOUT
COUNCIL APPROVAL.
>> THANK
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, YOU
RECOGNIZED TO EXPLAIN THE
AMENDMENT.
>> THE MAIN THING I WOULD LIKE
TO EXPLAIN TO THE CITY COUNCIL
AND THE PUBLIC IS THAT IT IS
NOT SO MUCH ABOUT HOW, WHEN,
AND IF ENCAMPMENTS ARE SWEPT.
BUT, THE PROBE IS SO IS GOING
INTO THE QUESTION OF WHAT
SHOULD HAPPEN IF AN ENCAMPMENT
IS SWEPT FOR ANY REASON AND
THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THE
ENCAMPMENT THAT WILL BE REMOVED
MUST BE OFFERED A LOCATION
NEARBY WHERE THEY CAN MOVE, SO
THEY DON'T GET THE FEELING OF
UPROOTING.
THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO STAY IN
THE VICINITY OF THE LOCATION
THEY HAVE ORGANIZED THEMSELVES.
IF THEY MOVE THERE, THEY CANNOT
MOVE AGAIN WITHOUT COUNCIL
APPROVAL BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE
ARE SWEPT, THEY DO NOT VANISH.
THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS, NOT
STATISTICS.
THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE.
EVEN PEOPLE WHO DO THINK THAT
THE SWEEPS SHOULD CONTINUE, AT
LEAST IN SOME CASES -- I
DISAGREE WITH THAT BUT THAT
DEBATE IS A VALID DEBATE. EVEN
PEOPLE WHO DO THINK THE SWEEPS
SHOULD CONTINUE, RECOGNIZE THAT
PEOPLE NEED SOMEWHERE TO GO AND
THEY FEEL THAT IF AN ENCAMPMENT
IS NEEDED TO BE MOVED BECAUSE
ANY OF THE STATED REASONS AT
THIS POINT, THEN YOU HAVE TO
OFFER SOMEWHERE THEY CAN GO BUT
THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
AND WILLING TO.
THIS PROVISO REQUIRES THAT
SOMEWHERE MUST BE OFFERED.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, GO
AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT.
I AM THINKING ABOUT THE PHONE
CALL THAT I GOT LAST WEEK
DURING A COMMITTEE MEETING FROM
AN OUTREACH WORKER WHO
MENTIONED THAT THIS ISSUE LEFT
AN AND KAMMAN.
THE POLICE CAME IN AND MOVED
SOMEBODY OUT OF THEIR CAR AND
THEN IMPOUNDED IT.
WE KNOW THAT SOMETHING HAS TO
BE DONE TO KEEP THE POLICE FROM
HARASSING PEOPLE FOR LIVING
OUTSIDE. I AM SURE THIS PROVISO
WON'T SOLVE ALL OF THOSE ISSUES
BUT NEITHER DOES HAVING NOTHING
ON THE BOOKS, WHICH IS WHERE WE
ARE NOW. I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOW OUR ON
HOUSED NEIGHBORS WE DON'T WANT
THEM TO BE HARASSED OR HAVE
THEIR HOMES DESTROYED. WE ARE
AWARE THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM.
WE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY
OUTREACH PROVIDERS INDICATING
IT IS A PROBLEM AND WE KNOW
FROM HOMELESS FOLKS THEMSELVES,
THEY CONTINUE TO BE HARASSED.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US
TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS
HAPPENING AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT WE ALSO NEED TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT ENDING THE
PRACTICE OF HARASSING FOLKS WHO
ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, GREG.
I GUESS I AM WANTING TO HEAR A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WE
CURRENTLY HAVE IN A STATUTE.
WE HAVE REMOVED POLICE OFFICERS
FROM ANY FORM OF OUTREACH AND
ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR HOMELESS
POPULATION.
THERE IS NO LONGER SWEEPS
OCCURRING UNDER THE GUISE OF
THE NAVIGATION TEAM AND HAVING
A POLICE LED RESPONSE THERE. I
THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY IMPOSED
VARIOUS PROVISOS AND
SIDEBOARDS ON HOW OFFICERS
WOULD BE ENGAGED WITH OUR
HOMELESS NEIGHBORS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE
SITUATION, THOUGH, ABOUT ISSUES
THAT MIGHT BE COMPLETELY
HAZARDOUS.
THERE IS NOTHING THAT PREVENTS
THE CONTINUATION OF ENGAGEMENT
ON ISSUES RELATED TO CRIME AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR US, OR FOR
ME, WHAT IS THE EXISTING
PROTOCOL?
>> SURE.
THE FIRST THING TO RECOGNIZE IS
THAT THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER
, I THINK, AFFECTS THE MOVEMENT
OF ENCAMPMENTS OR MOVEMENT OF
HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. IF THE
MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER IS NOT
IN PLACE, THEN SPD CAN MOVE
ENCAMPMENTS FOR THE REASONS
THAT YOU MENTIONED.
OTHERWISE -- AND, THEY CAN DO
SO WITH NO WARNING.
THEN, OTHERWISE, IT WOULD BE
THE CITY'S NAVIGATION TEAM'S
POLICY TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED
NOTICE.
MY COLLEAGUE, JEFF SIMMS, WOULD
BE BETTER TO GO INTO DETAIL
HERE.
THAT IS SORT OF A HIGH-LEVEL
DESCRIPTION.
>> I AM NOT SURE IF JEFF SIMMS
IS STILL ON THE LINE. I AM JUST
GOING TO SLOW TALK FOR A MINUTE
TO SEE IF HE JOINS.
IF NOT, GENERALLY WHAT WE HAVE
HEARD IN THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT
THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO HOW THE
CITY IS CONDUCTING OUTREACH AND
ENGAGEMENT WITH PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IS
THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS WILL
NO LONGER BE PART OF THAT TEAM
AND ECOSYSTEM.
AND, THE NEW GROUP THAT WILL BE
MANAGING THE HOMELESS SERVICE
PROVIDERS FOR OUTREACH AND
ENGAGEMENT.
HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THERE IS
ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY THAT -- I
DON'T KNOW THAT THERE ARE
PROVISOS IN THE PROPOSED 2021
BUDGET I THE MAYOR OR THE
COUNCIL THAT IS EXPLICITLY
STATING THAT.
THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE
AGREEMENT AND THE DISCUSSIONS
WITH THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND THE
SOCIAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT.
>> THAT IS FAIR.
I WAS SORT OF MENTIONING A
CURRENT LAW SITUATION AND LIKE
YOU SAID, THE PROVISOS UNDER
21 AND DIRECTION.
YOUR DESCRIPTION BETTER
REFLECTS THE REALITY ON THE
GROUND.
THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, GO
AHEAD.
THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
I AM NOT QUITE SURE I
UNDERSTAND HOW ACTIONS WOULD BE
MONITORED AND HOW, IF ACTIONS
WERE FOUND TO BE CONTRADICTORY
TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE
PROVISO, WHAT EXACTLY WOULD
HAPPEN NEXT? THEN, ONE EXAMPLE
OF A CONDITION, WHICH PERHAPS
IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE
WRITTEN THIS WAY. I THINK IT
RAISES FOR ME THE QUESTION OF
WHETHER OR NOT, THIS SENTIMENT
WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND I
UNDERSTAND SHOULD BE BEST
EXPRESSED IN A PROVISO.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH
PROVISOS, THEY HAVE TO BE
MEASURABLE CONDITIONS IN ORDER
TO IMPLEMENT THE PROVISO.
FOR INSTANCE, THERE IS A
SECTION WHERE IT REFERENCES
WHEN RESIDENTS -- WHEN AN
ENCAMPMENT CAN BE REMOVED.
IT REFERENCES THE REQUIREMENT OF
AN OPTION BEING OFFERED ONE HALF
OF A MILE AWAY.
WHAT HAPPENS IF RESIDENTS WERE
DIRECTED TO A LOCATION THAT WAS
A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY
INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED ONE
HALF OF A MILE AWAY?
I THINK THERE WERE SOME OTHER
CONCERNS AROUND THE ABILITY TO
MONITOR AND IMPLEMENT IN A WAY
THAT FULFILLS OUR OBJECTIVES TO
MINIMIZE THE ACTIONS OF SPD TO
ENGAGE IN REMOVAL.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT THAT THERE IS STILL,
DESPITE ALL OF OUR ACTIONS
REGARDING HOPE AND TAKING
POLICE OFFICERS OFF OF THAT
TEAM, THERE IS STILL THE
POSSIBILITY THAT POLICE
OFFICERS WILL BE USED TO REMOVE
ENCAMPMENTS IN A CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES.
I AGREE THAT WE WANT TO MINIMIZE
IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
I AM JUST NOT QUITE SURE I
UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROVISO
COULD BE USED TO DO THAT.
>> I SHOULD MENTION THAT SOME
OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE
RAISED ARE ADDRESSED IN A MEMO
THAT WAS CIRCULATED TO ALL
MEMBERS FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT
, WHICH I CAN'T GO INTO
SPECIFICALLY, BUT I WANTED TO
REMIND MEMBERS THEY GOT THE
MEMO TWO OR THREE DAYS AGO.
>> THAT IS WHY I STAYED AWAY
FROM ALL OF THE LEGAL ISSUES
AND FOCUSED ON MY QUESTION
ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION.
>> I DO SEE JEFF SIMMS IS ON
THE LINE AS WELL.
JEFF, IF YOU HAVE ANY
ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION.
>> APOLOGIES.
I WAS TRYING TO JOIN THE KING
COUNTY HOMELESS AUTHORITY WHICH
IS MEETING CONCURRENTLY.
I MISSED THE QUESTION.
IF YOU CAN RESTATE IT, I CAN
CHIME IN.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, DID
YOU WANT TO RESTATE YOUR
QUESTION?
MINE WAS SIMPLY HOW IS THIS
DIFFERENT THAN OUR EXISTING
POLICY OF NOT ALLOWING SWEEPS
THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY LED BY OUR
SPD AND NAVIGATION TEAM.
>> I WAS JUST ASKING HOW WOULD
THIS BE IMPLEMENTED, WHO WOULD
MONITOR IT, AND WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
WAS TO BE FOUND OUT OF
COMPLIANCE. I GAVE THE EXAMPLE
OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF
RESIDENTS WERE DIRECTED TO A
LOCATION A QUARTER OF A MILE
AWAY INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED BY
THIS PROVISO, HALF-MILE AWAY.
>> I AM NOT ABLE TO ADD A LOT
MORE CONTEXT THAN WHAT GREG HAS
ON WHAT THE EFFECT WOULD BE IF
THOSE CONDITIONS ARE NOT MET.
>> JEFF, I THINK THE ORIGINAL
QUESTION WAS, HOW IS THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROVISO
DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IS
HAPPENING ON THE GROUND TODAY?
ALLIE ANSWERED A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THAT AND WHAT KIND OF
ENCAMPMENT REMOVALS ARE
HAPPENING NOW AND UNDER WHAT
CONDITIONS.
I THINK THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL
QUESTION WE WERE HOPING YOU
COULD HELP WITH.
>> CERTAINLY.
PER THE PASSAGE OF COUNSEL BILL
119-942, THE COUNCIL LISTED THE
PROVISO THAT WAS PUT ON THE
NAVIGATION TEAM OVER THE
SUMMER.
IN THAT PROVISO, IT SAYS THAT
STAFF ARE NOT PERMITTED TO
ENGAGE DIRECTY WITH ENCAMPMENT
RESIDENTS EXCEPT FOR THE
PURPOSES OF THE STORAGE OF
THEIR POSSESSIONS.
THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY
INTERACTION CURRENTLY ABOUT HSB
STAFF AND ENCAMPMENT RESIDENTS.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT
ENVISIONED AS BEING PART OF THE
RESPONSE TEAM AT ALL AT THIS
TIME. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY
ENGAGEMENT AS FAR AS WHAT WE
WOULD HAVE CALLED A NAVIGATION
TEAM BEFORE.
THERE HAS BEEN MORE THAN A YEAR
NOW OF INSTANCES WHERE SOME
OFFICERS, AS THEY HAVE BEEN
DESCRIBED, THAT WOULD, IF THEY
ENCOUNTERED AN INDIVIDUAL
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THAT
IS OBSTRUCTING A RIGHT-OF-WAY,
THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO TELL
THEM THAT THEY NEEDED TO REMOVE
THEIR BELONGINGS TO PERMIT
PASSAGEWAY AND THEY COULD ACCESS
SUPPORT FROM THE NAVIGATION
TEAM.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT
THAT CONTINUES. THE MAYOR HAS
MADE STATEMENTS.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, A MAJOR HAS
BEEN DIMINISHED THROUGH COVID.
HOPEFULLY THAT IS HELPFUL
CONTEXT GOING FORWARD. THE
PROVISO THAT WAS IMPOSED WITH
119-442 DID NOT CARRY FORWARD
INTO 2021. AT THAT POINT IN
TIME, HSB STAFF CAN POST
NOTIFICATION THAT AN ENCAMPMENT
NEEDED TO BE REMOVED. THERE ARE
SOME AGENCY OUTREACH WORKERS
THAT ARE EMPLOYED ON THAT SCENE.
THE COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, PAST
THE REPURPOSE SING OF THE STAFF
WITH THE VISION THAT THAT WOULD
NOT HAPPEN. WE WOULD BE
COORDINATING MORE WITH CONTRACT
PROVIDERS TO DO THAT WORK.
THAT HAS BEEN AN EMERGING
DIALOGUE AND A DIALOGUE THAT
CONTINUES EVEN NOW.
>> I THINK MORE GENERALLY
SPEAKING, IF PERIMETERS OF THE
PROVISO ARE DIFFICULT TO
INTERPRET OR ARE FOUND TO NOT
BE COMPLIED WITH, THERE ARE
IMPLICATIONS FOR THE FINANCE
MANAGERS FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS
THAT THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY ON,
THINGS SPECIFIC TO THE PROVISO.
I THINK MORE GENERALLY
SPEAKING, BY UNDERSTANDING IT
CORRECTLY, IF THE TERMS ARE
DIFFICULT TO MONITOR OR TO KNOW,
IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO BE SURE
WHETHER OR NOT THE PROVISIONS
OF THE PROVISO HAVE IN MET
APPROPRIATELY.
>> OKAY.
>> SO, COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT ,
IF YOU HAVE CLOSING COMMENTS,
GO AHEAD.
>> I WANTED TO PROVIDE SEVERAL
CLARIFICATIONS TO THE QUESTIONS
THAT CAME UP. ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS IS ABOUT WHAT
INTERACTIONS THE POLICE HAVE
THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
I THINK JEFF DID A REALLY GOOD
JOB DESCRIBING THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN WHAT ARE THE OFFICIAL
SWEEPS THAT GO THROUGH OR
OFFICIAL ENCAMPMENT REMOVALS
THAT GO THROUGH A CERTAIN SET
OF PROCEDURES THAT WE ARE ALL
AWARE OF. BUT, IT IS A VERY
COMMON SITUATION THAT POLICE
JUST TELL SOMEBODY THAT THEY
ARE CAUSING AN OBSTRUCTION AND
THAT THEY NEED TO MOVE.
IT IS UNDER THE GUISE OF
OBSTRUCTION OR HAZARDOUS
SITUATION THAT MANY, MANY OF
THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
I BELIEVE IT IS AN OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF THE ENCAMPMENT
REMOVAL FOR LESS INDIVIDUALS OR
SWEEPS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY OVER 90%.
MAYBE I AM WRONG ABOUT THIS.
I DO REMEMBER THE OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF REMOVALS THAT ARE
HAPPENING THAT DON'T GO TO THE
OFFICIAL PROCEDURES, BECAUSE IT
TAKES PRECEDENCE.
THE POLICE COME AND SAY YOU ARE
OBSTRUCTING THIS OR THAT. UNDER
THAT GUISE, THE HOMELESS
NEIGHBORS ARE REMOVED.
THAT IS THE KIND OF INFORMAL
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT HAPPENS ALL
TOO OFTEN, WHAT WE ARE DEALING
WITH HERE.
AS I SAID, THE OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF REMOVALS ARE SWEEPS
THAT ARE HAPPENING UNDER THAT
GUISE.
I THINK THIS PROVISO IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
AS I SAID, WE ARE EMPHASIZING
ON WHY WE ARE NOT COMMENTING ON
THE OFFICIAL PROCEDURES BUT WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT THE OFFICIAL
GUIDELINES THAT ARE NOT BEING
FOLLOWED.
AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS
PROVISO IS VIOLATED, I WOULD
ANSWER THAT BY SAYING WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN ANY PROVISO IS
VIOLATED ? I DON'T HAVE A
PRECISE ANSWER FOR THAT.
I WON'T PRETEND TO.
I THINK IT IS A CONCERN OF THE
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IT WOULD BE UNLAWFUL FOR THE
POLICE TO DO THINGS UNLESS THEY
PROVIDED AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION
FOR THE CRITERIA THAT ARE STATED
IN THE PROVISO.
I WOULD SAY, I DON'T BELIEVE
THAT WE HAVE CLEAR-CUT
ENFORCEMENT BUT NOR DO WE HAVE
ANY CLEAR-CUT IDEA FOR WHAT
CONSTITUTES AN OBSTRUCTION OR
HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS.
THE PROVISO DOES NOT PRETEND
TO HAVE MEASURABLE CONDITIONS
BUT THE CONDITIONS WERE THE
PRETEXT UNDER WHICH HOMELESS
NEIGHBORS ARE BEING DISPLACED
ARE NOT MEASURABLE EITHER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DECIDE THAT
THE POLICE ARE RIGHT WHEN THEY
SAY THERE IS AN OBSTRUCTION OR
HAZARDOUS.
MOST OF THE SWEEPS THAT ARE
HAPPENING ARE PRETTY UNJUST
BESIDES THE REASON THAT THEY
HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
THE CLAIM THAT THE ENCAMPMENT
IS SUDDENLY CREATING HAZARDOUS
CONDITIONS OR CREATING
OBSTRUCTION, THAT IS NOT
MEASURABLE EITHER. WHO WAS
MONITORING THEM IN THE FIRST
PLACE?
THE CRITERIA THAT
COUNCILMEMBERS ARE SAYING THAT
IT SHOULD APPLY TO THIS PROVISO
ALSO SHOULD APPLY TO THOSE.
THEY ARE NOT BEING PROVIDED.
THE REALITY IS COMMUNITY
MEMBERS WHO SUPPORT HOMELESS
NEIGHBORS AND WHO ARE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCATES
HAVE DONE A LOT OF THE WORK OF
ACTUALLY MONITORING THE SWEEPS
AND LETTING THE COMMUNITY KNOW.
IT IS ACTIVISTS LIKE DAVE KIM.
THERE ARE OTHERS WHO I DO NOT
HAVE THE TIME TO NAME WHO
PROVIDE REAL-TIME UPDATES ON
SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT ENCAMPMENT
REMOVALS AND THE CONDITIONS
UNDER WHICH THEY ARE HAPPENING.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I WILL BE
VERY HAPPY TO WORK WITH
COUNCILMEMBERS TO FLUSH OUT
THAT ENFORCEMENT.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT I DON'T
BELIEVE A PROVISO IS AN ACTUAL
TOOL BUT THIS IS THE BUDGET
DELIBERATION SO THIS IS THE
TOOL WE HAVE THAT I WOULD URGE
COUNCIL MEMBERS AGREE WITH THE
SPIRIT OF THIS PROVISO.
I WOULD URGE EVERYONE TO VOTE
YES SO WE COULD INDICATE THIS
IS THE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING
IN AND I WOULD WELCOME
EVERYBODY TO JOIN ME IN
DEVELOPING THE ORDINANCE TO
ACTUALLY ENSURE THAT THIS CAN
HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM
CLEARLY STATED.
>> OKAY.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS, I WANT TO THANK JEFF
AND GREG THROUGH THE WALK-
THROUGH OF THIS.
I THINK ONE THING THAT YOU
BRIDGED FOR ME, JEFF, IS THE
PROVISO FOR 119-942, CLEARLY
IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE EXTENDED INTO 2021.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE
REFERENCED THIS ONGOING
CONVERSATION THAT IS HAPPENING
WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE,
PROVIDERS, THE COUNCIL, AND
ASKED THAT NEXT ITERATION OF
HOPE. THERE IS SOME SORT OF
FINAL SUMMARY OF THAT PIECE.
I AM INTERESTED IN LOOKING TO
MAKE SURE THAT PROVISO PIECE
CONTINUES AS WELL. I DO WANT IT
TO BE CLEAR ON THE PARAMETERS
AROUND POLICE AND THE COUNCIL
TO PREVENTING THOSE THROUGH THE
OLD MODEL THAT WAS USED.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
OKAY.
I AM SEEING NONE.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE
ON COUNCIL BUDGET ITEM CBH SPD-
007-A-001.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER GONZCEZ?
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> NO.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> NO.
>> TWO IN FAVOR, SEVEN OPPOSED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE MOTION FAILED.
THE CBA IS NOT APPROVED.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM
HERE.
>> THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER ONES
HUNDRED 68 WHICH IS CBA SPD-018-
A-001.
THIS ITEM WOULD CUT 9.0
MILLION FROM SPD AND REQUEST
THAT THE DEPARTMENT IMPLEMENT A
HIRING FREEZE IN 2021.
IT WOULD ALSO ADD THE $9.04
MILLION TO HST FOR COMMUNITY
LED PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTMENTS
AND IMPOSE A PROVISO.
IF THE CHAIR IS INTERESTED, I
HAVE A GRAPH AND A SHORT
PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS HOW
THIS WOULD AFFECT THE BALANCING
PACKAGE AS PROPOSED BY THE
CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET ME SEE IF THERE IS INTEREST
IN MOVING THIS FIRST AND THEN
WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED TO MOVE THIS ITEM.
>> THANK YOU.
I MOVED TO CUT $9.04 MILLION
GENERAL FUND FROM THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A HIRING
FREEZE, ADD $9.04 MILLION TO
THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT
FOR COMMUNITY LED PUBLIC SAFETY
INVESTMENTS AND IMPOSE A
PROVISO.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, I WILL
RECOGNIZE YOU FIRST AND THEN
GREG , I WILL COME BACK TO YOU
FOR ADDITIONAL CONTEXT WITH THE
PRESENTATION YOU JUST MENTIONED
IF THAT SOUNDS OKAY.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO MAKE OPENING COMMENTS?
>> THANK YOU.
OVER THE SUMMER, TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FLOODED THE
STREETS OF SEATTLE AND OVER 20
MILLION AROUND THE COUNTRY TO
PROTEST THE BRUTAL POLICE
KILLING OF GEORGE FLOYD. IN
PARTICULAR, BUT IN GENERAL, TO
PROTEST THE PERVASIVE AND
ONGOING POLICE VIOLENCE.
THESE PROTESTS THEMSELVES,
IRONICALLY, WERE MET WITH
BRUTAL REGRESSION FROM POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S IN MULTIPLE CITIES
INCLUDING IN SEATTLE FOR MANY
DAYS.
THE STREETS OF CAPITOL HILL WERE
FILLED WITH TEAR GAS AND PEPPER
SPRAY FROM THE POLICE, GRENADES
EXPLODING, AND POLICE
HELICOPTERS CIRCLING OVERHEAD
ALL JUSTIFIED BY THE IDEA THAT
PROTESTERS WERE SOMEHOW GOING
TO BE HARMFUL BECAUSE THEY HAD
UMBRELLAS AND WATER BOTTLES.
THE POLICE VIOLENCE CONTINUES
TO THIS DAY.
IN ALL OF THIS CONTEXT, THE
JUSTICE FOR GEORGE FLOYD
MOVEMENT CALLED FOR DEFUNDING
THE POLICE BY 50%, TO REMOVE
THE POLICE HOURS USED TO
PROTEST COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
AND ALSO AS WE JUST DISCUSSED,
OUR HOMELESS NEIGHBORS.
YESTERDAY, MANY COUNCILMEMBERS
WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO EXPLAIN
THE $10.7 MILLION CUT FROM THE
POLICE BY THE COUNCIL MOMENTS
IN THE BALANCING PACKAGE WOULD
NOT LAY OFF. THAT POINT WAS
MADE AGAIN AND AGAIN BY THE
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS YESTERDAY,
WHICH IS TRUE.
THE REDUCTIONS TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE ALREADY
BEEN MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL
IN THE PROPOSED PACKAGE RIGHT
NOW WOULD NOT LAY OFF POLICE
OFFICERS.
IT WOULD NOT EVEN PREVENT THE
POLICE FROM HIRING EVERY
OFFICER THAT THEY EXPECT TO HIRE
IN 2021.
I WOULD SAY THAT DESPITE THAT
LIMITATION, THE $10 MILLION
REDUCTION IN THE POLICE BUDGET
REFLECTS A REAL, TANGIBLE
VICTORY FOR THE MOVEMENT THAT
IS NOT VERY COMMON.
WE SHOULD -- THE MOVEMENT
SHOULD APPLAUD ITSELF FOR WHAT
WAS SHOWN ON THE STREETS.
IT IS ALMOST UNHEARD OF BEFORE
THE JUSTICE FOR GEORGE FLOYD
MOVEMENT.
POLICE SPENDING COULD BE USED
IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, I WAS
REPOSING TO REDUCE THE POLICE
BUDGET BY 50%.
COUNSEL WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE.
THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS FAR
MORE MILD.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO CUT $9.05
MILLION FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET TO FREEZE
OFFICER HIRING IN 2021.
TO BE CLEAR, THAT WOULD ONLY
EXTEND TO THE POLICE THE SAME
HIRING FREEZE THAT IS IMPOSED
ON MANY CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT
DO CRUCIAL WORK SUPPORTING,
RATHER THAN ABUSING OUR
COMMUNITY. NEEDLESS TO SAY, THE
HIRING FREEZE IS BECAUSE ALL
DEPARTMENTS ARE DEALING WITH
THE RECESSIONARY EFFECTS RIGHT
NOW.
WHY SHOULD THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BE AN EXCEPTION
ESPECIALLY WHEN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN CAUSING A
LOT OF HARM TO MANY OF OUR MOST
ULNERABLE COMMUNITIES WHO
ACTUALLY NEED THOSE SERVICES
THAT ARE BEING REDUCED.
INSTEAD OF SPENDING $9.05
MILLION ON HIRING MORE POLICE
OFFICERS NEXT YEAR, THESE FUNDS
WOULD INSTEAD BE USED FOR THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT FUND
FOR COMMUNITY LED PROGRAMS IN
PUBLIC SAFETY. PROGRAMS WITH A
PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS.
I KNOW COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE
RECEIVED THOUSANDS, NOT
HUNDREDS, BUT THOUSANDS OF
EMAILS IN SUPPORT OF THE
DEMAND.
BOTH THE PEOPLE'S BUDGET
MOVEMENT AND THE SOLIDARITY
BUDGET HAVE DEMANDED THIS.
I URGE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE
YES ON THIS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, GREG, WOULD
YOU LIKE TO WALK US THROUGH THE
CHART THAT YOU MENTIONED OR THE
SLIDE?
>> YEAH.
THANKS.
PATTY, WOULD YOU PUT UP THE
POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON THE
FIRST SLIDE, PLEASE?
IS PATTY HERE? I DON'T SEE
PATTY.
OKAY.
I CAN TRY TO SHARE MY SCREEN TO
SEE IF THIS IS POSSIBLE.
>> GREG, I HAVE IT.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
ONE SECOND.
>> GREAT.
THANKS.
OKAY.
WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS A
CHART THAT WAS IN MY STAFF
REPORT ORIGINALLY.
THIS IS THE NUMBER OF SPD'S
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS BETWEEN
2012 AND 2022 UNDER THE CURRENT
STAFFING PLAN THAT WAS PROPOSED
BY THE MAYOR AND FUNDED IN THE
MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET.
THAT SAME STAFFING PLAN IS PART
OF THE BALANCING PACKAGE. THAT
PARTICULAR STAFFING PLAN, IF
YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, WOULD
HAVE AND FUND IN 2021, 1311
FOLEY TRAINED OFFICERS.
IN 2022, 1329 TRAINED OFFICERS.
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS ARE
OFFICERS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH
AN ENTIRE YEAR'S WORTH OF
TRAINING.
THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH ACADEMY
TRAINING, FIELD TRAINING, AND
THEY CAN BE DEPLOYED ON THEIR
OWN EITHER TO ANSWER 911 CALLS
OR FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
THAT IS A GOOD MEASURE OF THE
DEPARTMENT'S WORKFORCE. AS YOU
CAN SEE IN THIS CHART, THE
NUMBER OF FULLY TRAINED
OFFICERS UNDER THE MAYOR'S PLAN
AND THE BALANCING PACKAGE WOULD
INCREASE FROM 1295 TO 1329.
THE INCREASE IS BECAUSE THE
DEPARTMENT WILL HIRE MORE
OFFICERS NEXT YEAR THAN ARE
CURRENTLY SEPARATING.
NEXT YEAR, THEY ARE PLANNING TO
HIRE ABOUT 114. THEY ARE
PLANNING TO SEPARATE ABOUT 89.
THE DIFFERENCE THERE, AND ALONG
WITH HIRING NINE NET NEW IN
2022, INCREASES THE SIZE OF THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S FULLY
TRAINED OFFICER FORCE OVER THE
NEXT TWO YEARS.
FOR PERSPECTIVE, OBVIOUSLY AS
YOU CAN SEE IN THIS CHART, THE
1329 OFFICERS ARE NOT AS HIGH
AS THE HIGH IN 1359.
IT CAN BE SAID THAT THE FORCE
IS GROWING FROM THE 1295 THAT
IT IS TODAY.
IT DOES NOT GROW TO THE HIGH IT
WAS IN 2017 BUT IT STARTS TO
CATCH UP A BIT.
UNDER THE PROPOSED BUDGET
ACTION, THERE WOULD BE ZERO
HIRED UNDER THE HIRING FREEZE.
THEN, THE NUMBER OF FULLY
TRAINED OFFICERS WOULD START
DROPPING IN 2021.
IT DROPS DOWN TO 1260.
IN 2022, IT DROPS DOWN TO 1213.
I WOULD NOTE THAT THE REASON
THAT YOU SEE TWO YEARS OF
REDUCTION, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS
ONLY ONE YEAR OF HIRING FREEZE,
JUST 2021, IS BECAUSE IT TAKES
A FULL YEAR TO GET OFFICERS
BACK INTO THE SYSTEM THROUGH
THE PIPELINE AND FULLY TRAINED.
WHILE OFFICERS ARE LEAVING IN
2021, NOBODY IS REPLACING THEM.
WHEN OFFICERS START TO BE HIRED
AGAIN IN 2022, THEY CAN'T START
GETTING BACK INTO THE FULL
FORCE UNTIL THEIR TRAINING IS
COMPLETE WHICH WOULD BE 2023.
THAT IS WHY YOU SEE TWO
CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF DROPS THERE
. PATTY, WOULD YOU GO TO THE
SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE NUMBERS?
THANK YOU.
AS I SAID, UNDER THE BALANCING
PACKAGE IN THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED
BUDGET, YOU CAN SEE 114 HIRES
AND 89 SEPARATIONS.
THAT IS A NET OF 75.
ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO
POINT OUT, WHEN I TALK ABOUT
FOLEY TRAINED OFFICERS, THERE
IS ANOTHER MEASURE THAT IS USED.
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT SOMETIMES
TALK ABOUT OFFICERS IN SERVICE.
OFFICERS IN SERVICE IS THE
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS THAT YOU
SEE ON THE LEFT OF THE TABLE
LESS EVERYBODY WHO IS OUT ON
DISABILITY LEAVE, LONG-TERM
MEDICAL LEAVE, OR MILITARY
SERVICE, OR IF THEY ARE OUT ON
ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE. THAT
NUMBER IS SORT OF THE DEPARTMENT
'S BOTTOM LINE ON WHO THEY CAN
DEPLOY.
IT IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST
NUMBER TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU
WILL FUND POLICE BECAUSE IT CAN
VARY QUITE A BIT.
YOU SEE 1247 HERE, THAT IS
BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT
THERE WILL BE 64 OFFICERS OUT
ON THOSE VARIOUS KINDS OF
LEAVES THAT I SAID. IN THE
PAST, IT HAS BEEN AS LOW AS 30.
BACK IN SEPTEMBER, IT WAS 88.
WHEN YOU ARE PLANNING FOR A
WORKFORCE, ONE THING THAT IS
GOOD TO AIM FOR IS THE CONSTANT
NUMBER OF THE FULLY TRAINED
OFFICERS.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE HERE. PATTY, WOULD YOU
FLIP TO THE HIRING FREEZE?
AS YOU CAN SEE, UNDER THE
HIRING FREEZE, THE ACTION WOULD
CUT $8.5 MILLION IN SALARY.
IT WOULD ALSO CUT $539,000 FOR
ADVERTISING AND TESTING AND
OTHER COSTS.
IT WOULD CUT THE FTE, WHICH IS
THE FUNDED LEVEL FROM 1357 TO
1295.
I HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED THE
OFFICERS IN THE SERVICE NUMBER.
I'M SORRY, THE FULLY TRAINED
OFFICER NUMBER IN THE CHART.
THE OFFICERS IN SERVICE NUMBER
IS QUITE A BIT LOWER.
AGAIN, SHOWING IT NOT
NECESSARILY AS A MEASURE TO
DETERMINE YOUR FORCE SIZE BUT
TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SPD WOULD
HAVE AVAILABLE ON THE GROUND.
PATTY, WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE
CHART LINE GRAPH?
SO, I WILL FINISH THIS OUT BY
NOTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
HAS SAID THAT AS THE NUMBERS
START TO DROP DOWN TO 1260 AND
1213 OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS,
THERE WOULD, AS BEST AS
POSSIBLE, TRY NOT TO IMPACT 911
RESPONSE TIMES AND THEY WOULD
DO THAT BY SHIFTING OFFICERS
OUT OF SPECIALTY UNITS AND
INVESTIGATIVE UNITS, INTO 911
RESPONSE.
THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT
WITH 100 OFFICERS THIS YEAR
BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED
ATTRITION THEY HAVE BEEN SEEING.
THEY DID NOTE YESTERDAY THAT
THEY HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT
THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE DOING
THAT BECAUSE THE OFFICERS THAT
THEY WOULD SHIFT OUT OF
SPECIALTY UNITS AND OUT OF
INVESTIGATIONS ARE OFFICERS
THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ON THE
STREETS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
SOMETIMES A DECADE OR MORE.
THERE WOULD BE SOME POTENTIAL
TRAINING ISSUES THERE, TAKING
OF THE $9 MILLION MEANS IT
WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR
OVERTIME.
THERE WOULD BE SOME LOGISTICAL
ISSUES THAT WOULD COME ALONG
WITH MOVING OFFICERS INTO
ATROL TO KEEP 911 RESPONSE
TIMES THE SAME.
IT WOULD SHRINK THE SIZE OF THE
DEPARTMENT.
IF SPD IS ABLE TO MOVE THE
OFFICERS, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT
911 RESPONSE TIMES ALTHOUGH I
CAVEAT THAT SO MEMBERS ARE
AWARE.
THAT IS MY HIGH-LEVEL
PRESENTATION OF THE EFFECT OF
THIS PARTICULAR ACT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER MORALES ,
WHO IS LISTED NEXT. I
APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THE
INFORMATION IN YOUR PRESENTATION
. THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THAT UP
FOR US.
THIS IS VERY HELPFUL.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK
YOU SO MUCH, GREG.
I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN REALLY
HARD ON A LOT OF THESE
QUESTIONS, HELPING US GET THESE
QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
COLLEAGUES, I WANT TO TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY I THINK
THIS MATTERS SO MUCH AND WHY I
HAVE SIGNED ON TO SUPPORT THIS
BUDGET ACTION. SOME BUDGETS
HAVE OVERFUNDED SPD OFFICERS IN
THE PAST.
I DO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE
VACANT POSITIONS ALREADY BEING
DEFUNDED AND THAT WE ARE
ALREADY AGGREGATING POSITIONS.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THIS CAN'T BE THE STOPPING
POINT FOR US AS A COUNSEL.
WHAT OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS
HAVE BEEN FUNDED FOR 150
POSITIONS? WHAT SPD IS
RECEIVING IS A BUDGET THAT
MATCHES THEIR STAFFING.
THIS SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
THE CASE.
MEETING THE CHALLENGE OF THIS
MOMENT REQUIRES THAT WE GO
BEYOND DEFUNDING ALREADY VACANT
POSITIONS.
IT MEANS THAT WE ACTIVELY MAKE
MOVES TO SHRINK THE DEPARTMENT
BY REMOVING THE HIRING BUDGET
FOR THE YEAR. UNTIL THIS YEAR,
SPD HAS RECEIVED NEARLY A
QUARTER OF THE CITY'S GENERAL
FUND.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
THEY HAVE RECEIVED MORE MONEY
THAN 25 OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS
COMBINED INCLUDING THE
DEPARTMENT'S CHARGED WITH
HOUSING, WITH EDUCATION, CITY
PLANNING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT, PAPER STANDARDS,
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
SUSTAINABILITY AND THE
ENVIRONMENT, IMMIGRANT AND
REFUGEE AFFAIRS, INCLUDING
FUNDING FOR 114 NEW POLICE
OFFICERS SENDS THE WRONG
MESSAGE AT A TIME WHEN SEATTLE
IS GRAPPLING WITH THE BUDGET
AND THE HARMFUL IMPACTS FROM
POLICING WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE
PAST SIX MONTHS. IN ADDITION TO
A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS IN A
MASSIVE LOOMING RECESSION. THIS
IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE
COMMITMENTS MADE BY
COUNCILMEMBERS THIS SUMMER NOT
JUST TO TINKER AT THE EDGES BUT
TO BEGIN THE WORK OF MAKING
STRUCTURAL CHANGES TO HOW WE
FUND SPD.
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
AS GREG HAS SAID, HAS DEVELOPED
A STAFFING PLAN THAT ASSUMES 25
NET NEW HIRES. 114 NEW HIRES
LEFT WITH 90 SEPARATIONS.
ACCORDING TO THE STAFFING PLAN,
SPD WILL HAVE AT THE END OF
2021, A TOTAL OF 1311 FULLY
TRAINED OFFICERS AND 1247 IN
SERVICE THAT GREG MENTIONED.
PROPOSED BUDGET DOES NOT AFFECT
THE STAFFING AND HIRING PLAN AT
ALL.
IT WOULD RESULT IN THE SAME
STAFFING LEVELS.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE. I
WANT TO KNOWLEDGE THAT
THROUGHOUT THE LAST SIX MONTHS
INCLUDING THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL,
WE HAVE MADE AN IMPORTANT SHIFT
IN HOW THE CITY FUNDS POLICE.
DESPITE THE DEPARTMENT'S
RESISTANCE TO CHANGE AND THEIR
RESISTANCE TO INCREASE
ACCOUNTABILITY, THE COUNSEL WE
HAVE WORKED WITH COMMUNITY
PERSEVERE EVEN THROUGH A VETO
DELIVER ON THE COMMITMENT WE
MADE TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF
POLICING.
THIS SUMMER, WE REDUCED
SALARIES FOR ONE OF THE HIGHEST
PAID DEPARTMENTS IN THE
COUNTRY, ILLUMINATED THE
NAVIGATION TEAM.
WE MADE AN INITIAL INVESTMENT
IN BUDGETING.
WITH THIS 2021 PROPOSAL, WE ARE
INVESTING IN ALTERNATIVES TO
POLICING. WHETHER THAT IS THE
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE PILOT
PROGRAM, SAFETY COORDINATORS,
WE ARE INVESTING $18 MILLION IN
THE PARTICIPATORY BUDGET
PROGRAM AND WE ARE CUTTING $6
MILLION IN VACANCY, SAVING
ALMOST $4 MILLION IN OVERTIME,
TRAVEL, AND TRAINING.
I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH IN ANY
WAY THE WORK THAT WE HAVE
ALREADY DONE.
I THINK WE HAVE MADE A GOOD
EFFORT TO DEMONSTRATE OUR
COMMITMENT. I DON'T THINK WE
ARE DONE.
I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK
WITH MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES TO
EXPLAIN WHY I THINK THIS IS SO
IMPORTANT.
I WANT TO END BY RESPONDING TO
SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE
SHARED WITH ME.
ONE IS THAT WE ARE STILL TRYING
TO SCALE UP OUR 911
ALTERNATIVES THAT WILL BE
IMPACTED BY THE STAFFING PLAN.
THE HIRING FREEZE IS IN LINE
WITH THE SCALING UP OF
COMMUNITY DESIGN AND
IMPLEMENTED RESPONSE. THE
HIRING FREEZE WOULD HALT THE
REPLACEMENT OF OFFICERS WHO
WILL BE LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT
OVER THE COURSE OF THE COMING
YEAR. IT WOULD IMMEDIATELY
INJECT AN EXTRA $9 MILLION INTO
BUILDING UP COMMUNITY-BASED
RESPONSES TO HARM. ADD THAT TO
THE $10 MILLION ALREADY
EARMARKED AND THAT IS $19
MILLION IN A MEANINGFUL
INVESTMENT TO SCALE UP
COMMUNITY GROUPS, ADDRESS
SITUATIONS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY
BEEN UNDER THE PURVIEW OF SPD.
THE SCALE OF COMMUNITY
SOLUTIONS, WHICH ALREADY EXISTS
BUT HAS BEEN UNDERFUNDED, CAN
AND SHOULD COINCIDE WITH THE
SCALING DOWN OF SPD.
THE HIRING FREEZE IS A MODEST
BUT NECESSARY STEP IN THAT
DIRECTION.
THE SECOND THING I HAVE HEARD
IS THAT WE NEED TO ALLOW FOR
NEW, MORE DIVERSE HIRES IN THE
DEPARTMENT.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
NEW POLICE RECRUITS CAN'T
GUARANTEE A CHANGE IN SPD'S
CULTURE OF VIOLENCE.
IT WON'T CHANGE THE ROLE OF THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
NO COUNCILMEMBERS MAY BE WARY
OF A HIRING FREEZE BECAUSE OF
THE DESIRE TO ATTRACT NEW
RECRUITS, PARTICULARLY WOMEN
AND PEOPLE OF COLOR.
OLDER OFFICERS RETIRE AND BAD
APPLES ARE LAID OFF.
THIS PRESUMES THAT THE PROBLEMS
WITH POLICING CAN BE ADDRESSED
THROUGH MORE DIVERSITY IN THE
RANKS. HOWEVER, A LOOK AT THE
CHALLENGES FACING OTHER POLICE
FORCES MORE CLOSELY MATCH THE
DEMOGRAPHICS OF THEIR
POPULATION.
FOR EXAMPLE, LOS ANGELES,
CHICAGO. THIS IS A FALSE
ASSUMPTION.
THE PROBLEM IS NOT A LACK OF
DIVERSITY IN POLICING.
THE PROBLEM IS STRUCTURAL
RACISM INHERENT TO POLICING.
FINALLY, I WANT TO SAY THAT ONE
OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE HEARD IS
THAT THIS LOOKS LIKE ABOLITION.
WE ARE NOT READY FOR THAT.
I WILL SAY THAT SEATTLE IS AT A
CROSSROADS RIGHT NOW.
WE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN FAILED
POLICING. WILL WE ACCEPT THE
CHALLENGE BEFORE US TO INVEST
IN A NEW PARADIGM OF HEALTH AND
SAFETY FOR EVERYONE?
THE HOMELESS REMEMBRANCE
PROJECT TRACKS THE DEPTHS OF
OUR HOMELESS NEIGHBORS.
THEY REPORTED 13 HOMELESS
PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED OUTSIDE IN
A PUBLIC PLACE OR BY VIOLENCE
JUST IN THE PERIOD BETWEEN
OCTOBER 21 AND MEMBER NIGHT.
THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL TO 119
DEATHS THIS YEAR.
114 NEW OFFICERS HAVE STOPPED
THOSE DEATHS. THEY PREVENT
FUTURE DEATHS.
HIRING NEW OFFICERS WRONGLY
PRESUMES THEY CAN FILL THE ROLE
OF NURSES, SOCIAL WORKERS,
HOUSING SPECIALISTS, MENTAL
HEALTH WORKERS, TREATMENT
PROVIDERS.
IT IS TIME TO REJECT THE
PREMISE THAT MORE OFFICERS
EQUALS MORE SAFETY. IT IS ALSO
TIME TO FULLY INVEST A NEW
PARADIGM OF HEALTH AND SAFETY.
THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS
THAT ON ELECTION NIGHT, PEOPLE
IN SEATTLE GAVE THE COUNCIL A
CLEAR MANDATE TO GO BEYOND
TINKERING, MAKE THE STRUCTURAL
CHANGES WE NEED.
HEADING UP TO THE ELECTION TWO
WEEKS AGO, LAW ENFORCEMENT
GUILDS AND SPECIAL INTERESTS
SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS AND OPPOSED THE
COUNTY'S LAW ENFORCEMENT
CHARTER AMENDMENT.
THEY USED THE SAME RHETORIC
THAT THEY HAVE USED TO PROPOSE
EVERY OTHER CHANGE WE ARE
TRYING TO MAKE IN THE CITY.
ARGUMENTS WERE NOT ONLY
REJECTED WITH RESIDENTS OF
SEATTLE, BUT BY RESIDENTS
COUNTYWIDE.
THOSE WHO APPROVED CHANGE HAVE
BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE US WE
ARE ASKING TOO MUCH, THAT WE
ARE GOING TO FAR.
ON ELECTION DAY, THIS IS THE
ONLY POLL THAT REALLY MATTERS.
PEOPLE TOLD US THAT WE ARE ON
THE RIGHT TRACK, THAT WE NEED
TO KEEP GOING.
THAT IS WHY I AM SUPPORTING
THIS AND I AM URGING MY
COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AS
WELL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUICK
QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION FROM
CENTRAL STAFF.
IT WAS NOTED THAT EVERY OTHER
DEPARTMENT OR A NUMBER OF OTHER
DEPARTMENTS HAVE A HIRING
FREEZE.
WHY NOT CONTINUE THIS WITH SPD
JUST AS WE HAVE CLEAR VACATION.
I THOUGHT THAT THE HIRING
FREEZE WAS JUST FOR 20.
IS THERE A HIRING FREEZE FOR
OTHER DEFERMENTS IN 2021?
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, THE
CURRENT HIRING FREEZE IS THE
PREROGATIVE OF THE MAYOR IS
THROUGH THE END OF 2020 AND IS
CURRENTLY EXTENDED INTO 2021.
MY UNDERSTANDING FROM PREVIOUS
DISCUSSIONS ON THE BUDGET
REVISION ORDINANCE AND OTHER
THINGS THAT FUNDING WAS
RESTORED FOR CERTAIN POSITIONS
FOR THOSE HIRINGS TO MOVE
FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS PROBABLY A
FEW OTHER FOLKS THAT WANT TO
SPEAK.
I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT AND COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES WHAT YOU HAVE JUST
SAID.
OBVIOUSLY THIS CHART IS
ILLUMINATING.
GREG, I KNOW YOU HAVE PROVIDED
THE NUMBERS BEFORE BUT SEEING
IT VISUALLY LIKE THIS,
OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A CONCERN
THAT I WILL RAISE ABOUT NET AND
NEW.
I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS
WITH CONDITIONS THAT ARE
VACATING.
I DO WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT
THERE IS AN INTEREST IN
RECOGNIZING THAT THERE WILL
CONTINUE TO BE ATTRITION. WE
HAVE, THROUGH THE EXISTING
BUDGET, SUGGESTED THAT THE
VACANT POSITIONS COULD BE
REPLACED.
SEEING THE ADDITION OF A
POTENTIAL OFFICER DOES RAISE
QUESTIONS FOR ME, WHICH I THINK
WE CAN GET INTO A LITTLE BIT
BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS
VISUAL HELPS ME UNDERSTAND THE
NET THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
I WANT TO ALSO OFFER THIS. A
NEW PARADIGM WAS DESCRIBED AND
I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOLKS KNOW
THE WAYS IN WHICH I BELIEVE
THAT THIS BUDGET IS OFFERING A
NEW PARADIGM.
WE HAVE INVESTED IN COMMUNITY
SOLUTIONS TO ALTERNATIVES TO
POLICING.
WE HAVE INVESTED MORE IN MENTAL
HEALTH SERVICES AND REMOVED
MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS AND OUR
PARKING ENFORCEMENT PROVIDERS
OUT OF SPD TO TRY TO CONTINUE
TO REDUCE THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OFFER
A NEW PARADIGM FOR HOW
INDIVIDUALS WHO PREVIOUSLY WERE
IN SPD WILL BE CONDUCTING THEIR
WORK IN COMMUNITY THROUGH A NON-
SWORN OFFICER AND THROUGH
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NO LONGER
UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE OFFERED THERE TO BE A
NEW PARADIGM BY MAKING SURE WE
ARE INVESTING IN COMMUNITY
ORIENTED SOLUTIONS BY MAKING
SURE THAT THE BUDGETING PROCESS
AND THE TASK FORCE THE MAYOR IS
CURRENTLY WORKING WITH HAVE
SUFFICIENT FUNDS AND MORE FUNDS
THEN I THINK THEY WERE
ANTICIPATED, GIVEN THE CRISIS
WE WERE WALKING INTO.
IT IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
INVESTMENT IN A YEAR WHERE WE
ARE FACING INCREDIBLE RESTRAINTS
ON OUR BUDGET.
I THINK THAT IS A SIGNAL OF
WHERE THE VALUES ARE AND MAKING
SURE THE COMMUNITY HAS FUNDING
AND SOLUTIONS FOR THE
ALTERNATIVE TO POLICING.
WE ARE ALSO MAKING SURE WE ARE
FOLLOWING THROUGH ON OUR
COMMITMENTS TO NOT JUST THE
HOUSING AND SECURITY THAT WE
NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO
THOSE WHO ARE FACING ONGOING
IMPACTS OF INEQUITIES IN OUR
CITY BUT WE ARE ALSO INVESTING
IN MAKING SURE THERE ARE
ALTERNATIVES TO POLICE SHOWING
UP AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR
TEAM HAVE SERVICES IN HAND SO
THAT FEWER 911 CALLS ARE GOING
TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE
ARE GOING TO BE REFERRING MORE
OF THOSE OVER, MAKING SURE THAT
MENTAL HEALTH CORALS ARE BEING
ANSWERED BY THE APPROPRIATE
TRAINED HEALTH PROFESSIONAL.
I OFFERED THAT AS EXAMPLES OF
SOME OF THE PARADIGM SHIFT WE
ARE INCLUDING HERE.
IN THE SAME BREATH, SAYING I
AGREE AS WELL THAT IT IS NOT
ENOUGH.
A 20% REDUCTION IN A BUDGET OVER
A SIX-MONTH PERIOD IS A
REMARKABLE DISCERNMENT.
THERE WAS ONLY ONE OF THE CITY
THAT HAS DONE MORE OF A
REDUCTION AND THAT IS THE CITY
OF BOSTON.
NEW YORK AND LOS ANGELES ARE AT
7% AND 13% REDUCTION.
20% REDUCTION IS AN INDICATION
THAT WE ARE CONTINUING THE PATH
TO DOWNSIZE THE IMPACT OR THE
PRESENCE OF POLICE OFFICERS
WHERE WE COULD HAVE COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS AND TRUSTED
COMMUNITY PARTNERS SHOWING UP
INSTEAD.
I THINK THE QUESTION IS ABOUT
THE RIGHT SCALE.
WE SCALE DOWN AS WE ARE SCALING
UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE
COMMUNITY ORIENTED SOLUTIONS
ARE AVAILABLE.
I HOPE THAT IT ALSO PROVIDES A
LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL
CONTEXT.
I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO LOOK AT
THIS TIPPING POINT AND
RECOGNIZE THAT PERHAPS IF WE
GET THESE DOLLARS OUT IN THE
COMMUNITY, THERE WILL BE
ADDITIONAL ALTERNATIVES TO
TRADITIONAL POLICING.
FOR ME, IT IS A QUESTION OF
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THESE TWO
LINES, IF THAT IS THE RIGHT
PLACE AND WHAT TIME DOES THE
TOGGLE OCCUR SO THAT OUR
COMMUNITY ORIENTED SOLUTIONS
HAVE TIME TO SCALE OUT.
I HOPE THAT IS HELPFUL FROM ME
IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS A
PARADIGM SHIFT.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE MY
PERSPECTIVE THAT I
WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES WHEN SHE
SAYS WE ARE NOT DONE.
WE ARE NOT DONE AND WHETHER OR
NOT WE ARE DONE IS DEMONSTRATED
BY OUR VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR
BUDGET ACTION.
OUR BUDGET PROVES THAT WE HAVE
REJECTED THE ADAGE THAT MORE
OFFICERS EQUALS MORE SAFETY.
WE ARE NO LONGER GROWING THE
OFFICER NUMBERS.
THIS BUDGET ALSO PRESERVES THE
ABILITY TO DO FURTHER REDUCTIONS
IN 2021 WITH THE PROVISO THAT
ALLOWS US TO CAPTURE SAVINGS
ASSOCIATED WITH ADDITIONAL
ATTRITION, DIRECT THOSE SAVINGS
TO COMMUNITY INVESTMENTS,
SHOULD WE SEE THAT WE WANT TO
FURTHER REDUCE THE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS MIDYEAR, THAT SPD
HIRES.
1322 IS THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS
THAT WE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE
COUNCIL SUMMER SUBMENTAL ACTION.
OUR ACTION TODAY IN THIS BUDGET
WOULD ALIGN WITH THAT BUT
AGAIN, IT ALLOWS FOR FURTHER
REDUCTIONS MIDYEAR IF
PATRICIANS ARE HIGHER THAN
EXPECTED.
MY POSITION ON THIS TOPIC IS
REALLY, AGAIN, FOCUSED ON OUR
COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO STAFF UP
AND BEGIN THE WORK THAT WE ARE
PROVIDING FUNDING FOR IN THIS
BUDGET.
FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE
LONG TERM, IN OUR EFFORT -- I
SEE A LOT OF CONSENSUS AROUND
THE EFFORT OF SHIFTING TO
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND AWAY FROM
TRADITIONAL POLICING. WE HAVE
TO MOVE METHODICALLY AND BE
HONEST WITH OURSELVES ABOUT THE
ABILITY TO SHIFT FROM ONE
PARADIGM TO THE OTHER AND TO
LAY A STRONG FOUNDATION.
THE COUNCIL IS PROVIDING
SIGNIFICANT FUNDING FOR
COMMUNITY GROUPS TO DO THIS
WORK.
WE ARE ALSO ACTING ON THIS
PARADIGM SHIFT BY CREATING THE
NEW COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
COMMUNICATIONS CENTER, ALLOWING
POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF THE PEO
'S RESPONSIBILITIES SUCH AS
MANAGING TRAFFIC, RED LIGHT
CAMERAS, RESPONSE TO NONINJURY
COLLISIONS, RESPONSE TO
REPORTING ON MINOR THEFT, CAR
BREAK-INS, AND TRAFFIC
CONTROLS.
COLLECTIVELY, -- I SHOULD ALSO
MENTION THAT EFFORTS OF THIS
COUNSEL IN ITS BUDGET TO FUND AN
ADDITIONAL RESPONSE.
COLLECTIVELY, CREATING A PATHWAY
FOR MORE CRISIS RESPONSE WITHIN
CITY GOVERNMENT AND FUNDING
MORE CRISIS RESPONSE OUTSIDE OF
CITY GOVERNMENT, WE ARE AGAIN
EMBRACING THIS REALLY IMPORTANT
PARADIGM SHIFT. WE ARE
COMMITTING TO THE LONG-HAUL TO
CONTINUE TO DO IT.
THIS EFFORT DOES NOT STOP WITH
THIS BUDGET. AND, I JUST WANT
TO REALLY UNDERSCORE THAT I
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE EFFORT
FOR CONTINUED REDUCTION TO THE
FOOTPRINT OF POLICING.
I INTEND TO SUPPORT FUTURE
REDUCTIONS TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT IN THE FUTURE. ONCE
COMMUNITY SAFETY ALTERNATIVES
úTHAT WE HAVE BEGUN TO FUND ARE
IN PLACE AND READY TO RESPOND
TO CRISIS RESPONSE CALLS. I
THINK THERE IS THE POTENTIAL TO
CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE
STAFFING ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE
COURSE OF 2021.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE
ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS TO DO
THIS REVIEW.
I THINK THE REPORTS THAT WE
WILL BE RECEIVING BECAUSE OF
THE STAFFING REPORT STATEMENT
OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT COMBINED
WITH THE PROVISO ON THE
ADDITIONAL ATTRITION'S ALLOWS
US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION ON A QUARTERLY,
EVEN MONTHLY BASIS.
REALLY I APPRECIATE OUR
COLLABORATION AS A COUNSEL ON
THESE ISSUES.
I APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS A
LOT OF UNITY ON THE COUNCIL ON
WHERE WE ARE GOING EVEN THOUGH
THERE MIGHT BE SOME DISAGREEMENT
ON HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET
THERE.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> THANK YOU.
I GUESS I WANT TO RESPOND TO A
FEW THINGS.
THE FIRST IS THAT I THINK THE
STAFFING PLAN ITSELF IS PART OF
THE PROBLEM.
THERE IS NO ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT
THE WAY WE NEED TO CHANGE
POLICING -- IT IS NOT REFLECTED.
THERE IS STILL A REQUEST AND A
STATUS QUO IN TERMS OF NOT
DIMINISHING THE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS THAT ARE BEING ASKED
FOR OR EVEN AS THE CHART SHOWS,
A DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS THEMSELVES.
THE PROJECTION IS THAT THAT
LINE WILL GO UP. I ALSO AM
REALLY STRUGGLING WITH 911
RESPONSE TIMES CONTINUING TO BE
USED AS A MEASURE.
HAVE WE EVER HEARD THAT MOST OF
THE CALLS THAT ARE 911 CALLS
ARE NOT PRIORITY ONES ANYWAY?
I DON'T KNOW WHY USING THAT AS
A MEASURE OF SAFETY -- THEY
MIGHT BE IMPACTED.
RESPONSE TIMES MIGHT BE
IMPACTED BUT THAT IS NOT AN
ACCURATE DETERMINATION OF
SAFETY.
WE HAVE SEEN THAT MANY CALLS
DON'T HAVE A CRIME OCCURRING SO
I AM INTERESTED IN SEEING OTHER
DEFINITIONS OF WHAT SAFETY MEANS
AND HOW WE COULD DEFINE A SAFETY
OUTSIDE OF A 911 RESPONSE TIME,
PARTICULARLY IF THERE IS NOT A
CRIME THAT IS OCCURRING.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN --
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT REFERRED
TO IT IN THE CHAIR REFERRED TO
A MEASURE SOMEWHERE IN THE
MIDDLE.
I HAVE ALSO ASKED GREG TO LOOK
AT WHAT A 50% HIRING FREEZE
MIGHT BE.
GREG, I AM WONDERING IF YOU
MIGHT POST THAT.
>> SURE.
PATTY, IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND
PUTTING UP THE OTHER
PRESENTATION.
ONE MOMENT WHILE PATTY PUTS THE
ENTIRE PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
>> OKAY.
I WILL JUST SAY THAT WE REALLY
DO HAVE TWO HEAR WHAT COMMUNITY
IS SAYING.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, I AM NOT
INTENDING TO DIMINISH AT ALL
ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE
ACCOMPLISHED DURING THE SUMMER
REBALANCING PACKAGE AND THAT WE
ARE INCLUDING HERE. I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I DO
THINK WE ARE TAKING IMPORTANT
STEPS AND I DO THINK THAT
THERE IS MORE THAT WE SHOULD BE
DOING TO DEMONSTRATE A
WILLINGNESS TO CHANGE THE
STRUCTURE WITHIN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.
>> I THINK I HAVE TO ASK FOR
THE CHAIR'S PERMISSION TO TALK
NOW.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, IS
THIS SOMETHING YOU ARE
INTERESTED IN HAVING DESCRIBED
BY GREG AS A POSSIBLE
SUBSTITUTE?
>> YES.
SORRY, I AM.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS THE 50%
THAT COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT HAD
ADDRESSED.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING
THAT BECAUSE I AM INTERESTED IN
SUBSTITUTING THIS TO SEE.
MY SENSE HERE IS THAT WE WILL
HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THIS.
>> CAN WE HAVE A POINT OF ORDER
PLEASE?
>> YEAH.
>> WE HAVE A CURRENT MOTION.
NOW WE ARE HEARING ABOUT A
SUBSTITUTE BUT THERE HAS BEEN
NO MOTION MADE BY THE
SUBSTITUTE.
>> WHAT WE DID YESTERDAY WAS WE
DESCRIBED THE SUBSTITUTE BEFORE
WE VOTED ON SUBSTITUTING.
I THINK THAT IF THERE WAS A VOTE
TO SUBSTITUTE THAT REMOVED THE
CURRENT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS
ARE AWARE OF WHAT THE
SUBSTITUTE WOULD BE.
YESTERDAY WE DESCRIBE THE
SUBSTITUTE AND THEN WE DID THE
PROCEDURAL MOTION ON
SUBSTITUTING.
THEN WE VOTED ON THAT CONTENT
OF THE SUBSTITUTE.
IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT, IF
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, IF YOU
WHAT YOUR SUGGESTED IS HEARING
MORE ABOUT THE SUBSTITUTE, WE
HAVE NOT MOVED IT OFFICIAL IN
FRONT OF US.
WE ARE JUST HEARING THE
STATEMENT.
THEN, WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING
WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD WANT
TO MOVE A SUBSTITUTE.
THEN WE WOULD VOTE ON A
POTENTIAL CUT ONLY IF THERE WAS
SUPPORT FROM COUNCILMEMBERS TO
SUBSTITUTE THAT ITEM.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
PROCEDURE LARRY, WE SHOULD MAKE
SURE TO RECOGNIZE WHERE WE
HAVE.
WE STILL HAVE COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT 'S PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF
US.
YOU ARE DESCRIBING A POTENTIAL
SUBSTITUTE.
WE WILL HAVE GREG HELP US WITH
THAT DATA.
I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE
JUST ABOUT TO PUT UP.
BEFORE ANY MOTION IS MADE, WE
WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT IS CLEAR
TO FOLKS IF THE MOTION IS MADE
TO SUBSTITUTE THAT.
>> I AM SORRY, CHAIR.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO MOTION TO
SUBSTITUTE TO DISCUSS THE
SUBSTITUTION.
>> THAT IS MY POINT OF ORDER
HERE.
>> SHALL I MAKE A MOTION?
>> YESTERDAY WE HAD TO MOVE THE
SUBSTITUTE.
THERE HAD TO BE A SECOND FOR
THAT MOTION AND THEN THE
SPEAKER WOULD BE ALLOWED TO
SPEAK TO THE PROPOSAL.
THE CAVEAT THERE IS THAT ONCE
YOU MOVE TO SUBSTITUTE AND IT
IS SECONDED, THE ORIGINAL
PROPOSAL DIES, IS MY
UNDERSTANDING.
>> I AM GOING TO ASK THE
CLERK'S TO CHIME IN HERE IF I
GET THIS WRONG.
YOU CAN MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE IN
A SECOND, THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS
THE TWO PROPOSALS.
SO, BEFORE VOTING ON THE MOTION
TO SUBSTITUTE SO THAT ALL
COUNCILMEMBERS UNDERSTAND THE
CHOICE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL
OPTION AND THE OTHER.
I BELIEVE THAT IF A
COUNCILMEMBER AND THE CHAIR IS
OKAY WITH THE ASK, I WILL
QUESTION CENTRAL STAFF ABOUT
WHAT WAS DIFFERENT.
WHAT IF IT WAS REDUCED?
I THINK WE CAN ANSWER THAT
QUESTION WITHOUT HAVING TO MOVE
THE SUBSTITUTE BUT I WOULD ASK
THE CLERKS TO PLEASE CONFIRM.
>> THIS IS AMELIA SANCHEZ.
YOU CAN DEFINITELY DISCUSS
POLICY AND THE INTENT OF POLICY
AND IF IT WERE TO CHANGE BUT
UNTIL THE ACTUAL SUBSTITUTE IS
úBEFORE YOU, THAT IS WHEN THE
DEBATE SHOULD BEGIN ON WHETHER
THE PROPOSED SUBSTITUTE
LANGUAGE WOULD BE.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK
THAT GREG CAN ANSWER THE
QUESTION OF WHAT THAT CHART
WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT WAS
INSTEAD OF A 50% HIRING FREEZE,
IT WAS A 25% HIRING FREEZE.
BEFORE THE COMMITTEE CAN DEBATE
THAT SUBSTITUTE OPTION, THE
MOTION NEEDS TO BE MADE AND
SECONDED TO MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE.
>> OKAY.
I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM HERE.
GREG COULD WALK THROUGH THIS
QUESTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES HAS ASKED OF HIM BEFORE
WE DEBATE THE MERITS OF THIS.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVED TO
BE SUBSTITUTED.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> OKAY.
GREG, I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO
ANSWER THE DIRECT QUESTION THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES HAS
ASKED YOU TO ADDRESS AND THEN
WE WILL SEE IF THERE IS
INTEREST IN DEBATE AND
DISCUSSION OF THAT, WHICH WOULD
REQUIRE A MOVE AND A SECOND TO
SUBSTITUTE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, WOULD
YOU RESTATE THE QUESTION?
>> CAN I JUST HAVE A PROCESS
POINT PLEASE? I JUST WANTED TO
CONFIRM THAT EVERYBODY IS ON
THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT
WAS JUST CLARIFIED.
THERE HAS TO BE A VOTE ON
WHETHER OR NOT THE
CONSIDERATION IS THE ORIGINAL
AMENDMENT FROM ME OR WHETHER
THE SUBSTITUTE IS APPARENTLY
COMING FROM COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, WHICH I WAS NOT AWARE
OF.
JUST MOVING AND SECONDING THE
SUBSTITUTE DOES NOT MAKE THE
ORIGINAL AMENDMENT INVALID.
I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM.
ALSO, I AM STILL UNCLEAR WHAT
THE SUBSTANCE OF THE
SUBSTITUTION IS.
>> THAT IS FAIR BECAUSE WE HAVE
NOT DISCUSSED IT YET. WE WON'T
BE DEBATING IT UNTIL WE HEAR
WHAT GREG HAS HERE AND THEN WE
WILL GO WITH THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, JUST TO
CONFIRM, YOU ARE CORRECT.
YOUR ITEM IS STILL UP FOR
DISCUSSION UNTIL A VOTE
HAPPENS.
EVEN IF A MOTION IS MADE TO
CONSIDER A SUBSTITUTE, YOUR
UNDERLYING ITEM ON THE AGENDA
IS STILL ACTIVE UNTIL A VOTE TO
AFFIRM THE DESIRE TO SUBSTITUTE
IS MADE BY THE MAJORITY.
OKAY.
I HAVE THAT CORRECTLY.
GREG, LET ME HAVE YOU WALK
THROUGH THE TECHNICAL QUESTION
HERE. COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, Q
LET UP ONE MORE TIME.
>> I INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT
IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF RATHER
THAN A FULL HIRING FREEZE, WE
DID A 50% HIRING FREEZE.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU. YOU CAN SEE THE
PURPLE LINE HERE. THIS WOULD BE
THE EFFECT OF A $4.5 MILLION
CUT TO THE DEPARTMENT.
WE CAN TAKE THE CURRENT
STAFFING PLAN AND USE ONLY 50%
OF THAT STAFFING PLAN OR
IMPLEMENT ONLY 50% OF THAT
STAFFING PLAN.
PATTY, WOULD YOU FLIP TO THE
SIDE THAT IS ON THE 50%,
PLEASE?
THIS IS AT RIGHT HERE.
AS I JUST MENTIONED, THIS WOULD
BE $4.25 MILLION IN SALARY
FUNDING ANOTHER QUARTER MILLION
IN HIRING COST SAVINGS BECAUSE
YOU WOULD NOT BE HIRING 114
OFFICERS, YOU WOULD BE HIRING
57 OFFICERS.
BECAUSE THERE ARE FEWER
OFFICERS BEING PUT INTO THE
PIPELINE, THERE IS A LIKELIHOOD
THAT FEWER WOULD DROP OUT.
I MODELED THIS PARTICULAR
SCENARIO AND UNDER THIS, I
REDUCED BY A FEW THE
SEPARATIONS.
THEN, THAT COMES TO A TOTAL OF
29 FEWER HIRES OR -29 NET HIRES
. THE AVERAGE ANNUAL FTE GOES
DOWN TO 1327 FROM 1357.
YOU CAN SEE THE YEAR END FULLY
TRAINED OFFICERS AND THE YEAR
END OFFICERS IN THE SERVICE
HERE ON THIS SLIDE.
IT IS PROBABLY BEST ILLUSTRATED
BY FLIPPING BACK TO THE LINE
CHART.
>> AT THIS POINT, BEFORE WE
DISCUSS AND DEBATE, ARE THERE
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR GREG ON
THIS SUMMARY OF WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES IS
SUGGESTING IS A SUBSTITUTE?
GREG, I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE
CHECK.
THE 1283 NUMBER THERE IN PURPLE
, THE NUMBER IS SLIGHTLY
TOPPLED OVER.
IS THAT AN INDICATION THAT THAT
IS THE NUMBER AT THE END OF
2021?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> OKAY.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO OFFICIALLY MOVE A
SUBSTITUTE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED
TO DO THAT.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
APOLOGIES FOR THE CONFUSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO
SUBSTITUTE SPD 018.
>> I WILL SECOND THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, DID
YOU WANT TO SPEAK MORE TO THIS
ITEM?
>> YES.
COLLEAGUES, YOU SHOULD BE
RECEIVING THIS.
IT IS EFFECTIVELY THE SAME
LANGUAGE AS COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT 'S PROPOSAL IN TERMS OF
THE SPENDING AND THE CUT,
EXCEPT THAT THIS MAY BE 4.5
MILLION RATHER THAN 10 MILLION.
I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
COLLEAGUES HAVE CONCERNS.
I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MOST OF YOU
ALREADY ABOUT THIS SO CUTTING
THE ENTIRE BUDGET FOR 2021 I
REALIZE IS SOMETHING FOLKS WERE
CONCERNED ABOUT.
THIS OFFERS ANOTHER OPTION,
WHICH WOULD REDUCE BY HALF.
IT CUTS 4.25 IN THE SALARY
FUNDING. I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT, AS GREG MENTIONED,
WHILE THIS DOES NOT RESULT IN A
ZERO NET NEW HIRES, IT DOES
RESULT IN 29 FEWER HIRES, WHICH
I THINK STILL IS AN IMPORTANT
STEP TOWARD THE GOAL OF MAKING
STRUCTURAL CHANGE IN THE KINDS
OF STAFFING PLANS THAT WE
APPROVE OR THAT WE FUND.
SO, THIS MEANS FEWER OFFICERS.
ALSO, IT MEANS LESS RISK OF
EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE, LESS
RISK OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL
POLICING, FEWER VIOLATIONS OF
CIVIL RIGHTS OF SEATTLEITES,
FEWER CITY RESOURCES GOING TO
DEFEND THE CITY IN LAWSUITS. I
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
REJECT THE NOTION THAT THERE IS
THIS THIN BLUE LINE OF POLICE
BETWEEN ORDER AND CHAOS IN THE
CITY.
AS WE WITNESSED THIS SUMMER,
MUCH OF THE CHAOS WE SAW WAS
CAUSED BY A DEPARTMENT WAS NOT
KNOWN TO DE-ESCALATE. I
ALSO DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
THERE ARE DETECTIVE UNITS DOING
ACTUAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION
WORK. I WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY
ARE INVESTIGATING THINGS LIKE
HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS NO
RESEARCH TO PROVE MORE OFFICERS
ON PATROL INCREASES COMMUNITY
SAFETY.
I AM ASKING FOR COLLEAGUES TO
SUPPORT THIS MEASURE WHICH WILL
BEGIN TO MOVE US TOWARD REALLY
MAKING THE KIND OF STRUCTURAL
CHANGE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
WITH THE COMMUNITY TO IMPLEMENT.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, YOU ARE
ON MUTE.
>> I WANT TO TOUCH ON THIS
QUESTION AROUND THE IMPACT OF A
HIRING FREEZE. GREG, YOU HAVE
PROVIDED US INFORMATION FROM
CHIEF DIAZ ABOUT WHAT THE SPD
RESPONSE WOULD BE IF THERE IS A
YEAR-LONG HIRING FREEZE AND THE
MOVEMENT OF OFFICERS FROM
SPECIALTY UNITS INTO PATROL.
CAN YOU REMIND ME OF WHAT THAT
NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT YOU
WOULD TAKE OUT OF OUR EXISTING
SPECIALTY UNIT AND PUT INTO
PATROL IN ORDER TO CONTINUE HIS
COMMITMENT TO 911 RESPONSE?
>> SURE.
PATTY, WOULD YOU FLIP BACK TO
THE ORIGINAL CHART?
THE FIRST PAGE?
SO, AS YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF MOVED
INTO PATROL FROM SPECIALTY
UNITS AND INVESTIGATIVE UNITS
100 OFFICERS IN THE LAST MONTH.
IF THE MOVEMENT OF THOSE 100
OFFICERS PUTS SPD A DAY
RESPONSE TIME THAT IT SEEKS TO
CONTINUE, THEN IT WOULD SUGGEST
THAT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A
MOVEMENT OF OFFICERS THAT
CORRESPOND TO THE REDUCTIONS
THAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE ON THE
LINE GRAPH FROM SPECIALTY UNITS
INTO PATROL. SO, IF IT IS THE
CASE THAT THE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS NOW IN PATROL IS
SUFFICIENT AT 1295, THEN GIVEN
THIS LINE GRAPH, IT WOULD
SUGGEST THAT THERE WOULD NEED
TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD OF 12 OFFICERS
MOVED IN BY 2021.
THIS IS SUGGESTING AN
ARTIFICIAL LEVEL OF PRECISION.
THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES ON
WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LARGE
NUMBER OF SEPARATIONS THIS
MONTH.
SHOULD THOSE SEPARATIONS
CONTINUE, THEN IT WOULD BE THE
CASE THAT THE CHIEF MIGHT HAVE
TO MOVE MORE OFFICERS IN. I
WOULD SAY THAT -- I DON'T MEAN
TO TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS BUT
I THINK THIS IS RELEVANT. THE
DEPARTMENT IS FORECASTING NOW
130 SEPARATIONS IN 2020.
THEY HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN
FORECASTING ABOUT 89.
THEY ARE FORECASTING NEXT YEAR
ABOUT 89.
TO SAY THAT THEY WOULD ONLY
HAVE TO MOVE IN, THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THESE TWO NUMBERS MAY
NOT BE FAIR. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT
OTHER THINGS MAY COME IN AND
INFLUENCE THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE REASON WHY I AM RAISING
THIS ISSUE IS I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT THE COUNCIL,
DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE GOT A
LOT OF FLAK OVER THE SUMMER
ABOUT OUR TARGETED REDUCTIONS,
WE IDENTIFIED 38 REDUCTIONS IN
SPECIALTY UNITS THAT WE WERE
SEEKING.
WE DID THAT BY LOOKING AT THOSE
SPECIALTY UNITS AND LOOKING AT
WHERE WE FELT THOSE BASED ON
THE FUNCTION OF THE SPECIALTY
UNITS IN THE COMMUNITY. OUR
KNOWLEDGE OF SOME OF THOSE
THINGS ENDING BECAUSE OF
DECISIONS OF OTHER
JURISDICTIONS.
OUR OWN DECISION TO MAKE THE
END OF SOME OF THOSE SPECIALTY
UNITS, WE KNEW SCHOOL RESOURCE
OFFICERS WOULD NOT BE NEEDED
ANYMORE.
WE KNEW WE WERE INTENDING TO
REMOVE OFFICERS OFF OF THE
NAVIGATION TEAM. IN ADDITION,
WE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATION FOR
REDUCTIONS TO SOME OF THE OTHER
SPECIALTY UNITS BASED ON THE
VACANCIES IN THOSE UNITS.
FURTHER, WE FELT THAT WE DID
NOT NEED A HORSE PATROL ANYMORE
AND WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF
SPECIALTY UNITS THERE. THAT WAS
A WELL-FOUNDED LOOK AT THE CITY
'S SPECIALTY UNITS AND
EXPRESSION OF OUR INTEREST IN
REDUCING OFFICERS IN THOSE
UNITS.
AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT
IS 38 OFFICERS WE WERE SEEKING
TO REDUCE FROM THE SPD'S
SPECIALTY UNITS.
WHAT WE KNOW HAS HAPPENED IN
JUST THE LAST FEW MONTHS IS
THAT THE CHIEF, IN ORDER TO
MAINTAIN 911 RESPONSE, HAS MOVED
100 OFFICERS OUT OF SPECIALTY
UNITS.
THEY HAVE MOVED OFFICERS --
THERE ARE NO LONGER ANY OFFICERS
IN THE CPT UNITS. WE HAVE SEEN
REDUCTIONS OF OFFICERS IN EACH
SOUTHWEST, SOUTH, NORTH, EAST
PRECINCTS WHICH FOCUS ON
BURGLARY AND THEFT.
WE HAVE SEEN A REDUCTION OF THE
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SQUAD AND
ELDER ABUSE SPECIALTY OFFICERS
OF GOING FROM FOUR TO ONE.
I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT IF WE
CONTINUE A HIRING FREEZE, WE
KNOW THAT THE CHIEF HAS SAID HE
WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE OFFICERS
OUT OF SPECIALTY UNITS INTO 911.
WE ARE GOING TO SEE A REDUCTION
BEYOND THAT WHICH WE PLAN FOR
DURING SUMMER OF THE SOME OF
THESE IMPORTANT SPECIALTY UNITS
. WE CAN ASK THE CHIEF TO FOCUS
ON PARTICULAR UNITS THAT WE
THINK ARE IMPORTANT LIKE
REDUCING OR ELIMINATING THE
HORSE PATROL BUT ULTIMATELY,
THAT IS HIS DECISION.
HE HAS ALREADY MOVED 100
OFFICERS OUT OF SPECIALTY UNITS
WHEN OUR SUMMER BUDGET PROPOSED
MOVING 38.
AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS IS
JUST ABOUT 911 RESPONSE.
AGAIN, IN THE CHIEF'S AUTHORITY
TO DO DEPLOYMENT, HE HAS MADE A
COMMITMENT TO A CERTAIN NUMBER
OF OFFICERS FOR 911 RESPONSE.
WE HAVE NOT TAKEN A LOOK AT HOW
THAT WILL IMPACT OTHER
PARTICIPANTS YET.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOT SEEING ADDITIONAL HANDS
RIGHT NOW, I DO HAVE TWO
CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, DID YOU
WANT TO GO BEFORE?
>> GO AHEAD.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, THE NUMBER
29 WAS USED, 29 NET LESS
OFFICERS. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS
CHART, I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE
LIKE 12 LESS OFFICER IN THE
FIRST YEAR.
IS 29 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
NOW AND TWO YEARS FROM NOW AT
THE END OF 2022?
>> NO.
IT IS ACTUALLY THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE HIRING PLAN.
WOULD YOU FLIP BACK TO THE 50%
SLIDE?
THE HIRING PLAN UNDER THIS
PARTICULAR SCENARIO, THERE
WOULD BE 57 HIRES AND 86
SEPARATIONS IN 2021.
THAT IS WHERE YOU GET THE 29
FEWER NET TIRES.
IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO ASK THE
EXECUTIVES TO IMPLEMENT A 50%
HIRING FREEZE, CUT THE 4.5
MILLION AND FOLLOW THIS
PARTICULAR STAFFING PLAN, THEN
IT WOULD ULTIMATELY, DOWN THE
ROAD AT THE END OF 2021, GIVEN
ALL THE OFFICERS THAT YOU HAVE
IN THE PIPELINE AND ALL THE
OTHER CHANGES THAT ARE COMING
IN, IT WOULD ULTIMATELY NOT A
TOTAL OF 1283 FULLY TRAINED
OFFICERS.
THE 29 NUMBER IS THE NET OF THE
HIRING, SIMPLE HIRES AGAINST
SEPARATION.
>> IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT OTHER
CHART, WHEN YOU DESCRIBE US
GETTING TO 1311 UNDER THE
EXISTING PLAN AND THAT THIS
INVOLVES 25 NEW NET TIRES, 25
NEW NET TIRES WERE TO BE
REDUCED, IS THAT STILL
CONSIDERED A HIRING FREEZE IF
ALL OF THE VACANT 89 POSITIONS
COULD BE REFILLED?
>> I DON'T THINK THAT THAT
WOULD BE A HIRING FREEZE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE
IN THE STAFFING PLAN. I THINK
THE COUNCIL WOULD BE
POTENTIALLY PROVIDING DIRECTION
ABOUT HOW MANY OFFICERS THE
COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
DEPARTMENT HAVE. OF COURSE, THE
DEPARTMENT COULD ONLY TAKE THE
MONEY AND REQUEST WHAT I
UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION IS.
IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION,
I THINK YOU ARE SAYING WOULD IT
BE POSSIBLE TO DO A SITUATION
WHERE THERE ARE 89 HIRES AND 89
SEPARATIONS. SOMETHING ALONG
THOSE LINES?
THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES.
YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT
THE MONEY THAT WOULD BE CUT
WOULD BE PROBABLY ABOUT 2.3
MILLION.
I KNOW IT WOULD BE 2.3 MILLION,
ACTUALLY.
THAT WOULD BE FOR 89 HIRES AND
89 SEPARATIONS.
I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY
IT WOULD BE THE EXACT 1295 THAT
WOULD BE CARRIED FORWARD INTO
21 AND 22.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE
HIGHER BUT THE NET HIRES AND NET
SEPARATIONS COULD BE FIXED AT
89 AND THE COUNCIL COULD REMOVE
2.3 AND THAT WOULD SORT OF BE A
NET NEUTRAL HIRING PLAN.
FROM A HIRING PERSPECTIVE,
THERE WOULD BE NO MORE HIRES
THAN THERE WOULD BE PROJECTED
TO SEPARATE.
>> CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
THE COUNCIL HAS AUTHORITY TO
ESTABLISH THE SPD'S BUDGET.
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IN TERMS
OF HIRING CAN ALSO BE INFLUENCED
BY THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT
ARE AUTHORIZED BUT MUCH MORE
PRACTICALLY IS AFFECTED BY
THEIR ABILITY TO ATTRACT
OFFICERS, GET THEM INTO THE
ACADEMY AND TRAINED AND THE NET
NUMBER OF OFFICERS WHO ARE ON
BOARD IS ALSO AFFECTED BY THE
AMOUNT OF ATTRITION THAT
HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR
WHICH IS NOT IN ANY ONE'S OVERT
AND SPECIFIC CONTROL.
THE REAL LEVER THE COUNCIL HAS
IS THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS THAT
YOU APPROPRIATE ULTIMATELY IN
THE BUDGET. THE DIFFERENT
LEVELS OF DOLLARS YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT IMPLIED DIFFERENT
LEVELS OF STAFFING BY THE END
OF EACH YEAR.
THAT IS WHAT GREG'S CHART AND
SLIDES ARE REFERRING TO.
WHAT YOU CAN CONTROL IS NOT THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ON
BOARD SO MUCH AS THE NUMBER OF
DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO
PAY FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
>> THANK YOU.
I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO USE THE
WORD REQUEST. THAT IS A GREAT
DESCRIPTION OF THAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE
CLARIFICATION.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
>> I AM GOING TO RESPOND TO THE
QUESTION AND ANOTHER POINT THAT
CAME UP.
IT IS ON MY AMENDMENT THAT IS
UNDER QUESTION RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS SOCIAL
MOVEMENTS THAT CREATE CHANGE
THROUGHOUT HISTORY, NOT THE
KIND HEARTS OF THE POLITICAL
ESTABLISHMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS BODY
COMMITTED TO DEFUNDING THE
POLICE. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT
SAME LOGIC GOES BOTH WAYS.
NOW THAT THERE ARE NO LONGER
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ON THE
STREETS DEMANDING THESE CHANGES,
MANY COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE WALKED
BACK THEIR PROPOSALS TO DEFUND
THE POLICE.
THIS HAS HAPPENED IN MULTIPLE
CITIES, NOT JUST SEATTLE.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THE
NUMBERS.
$80.4 MILLION FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND THE MAYOR.
CITY COUNCIL'S PROPOSAL SO FAR
ADDS UP TO 7.7% OF THE POLICE
BUDGET NOT COUNTING THE
TECHNICAL ADVANCEMENTS IN AND
OUT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
THAT DO NOT MAKE A CHANGE IN
POLICING.
THAT IS A REAL ACHIEVEMENT OF
OUR MOVEMENT.
ORGANIZERS HAVE USED A FIGURE
OF 17% BUT THAT FIGURE INCLUDES
THINGS LIKE TRANSFERRING
PARKING ENFORCEMENT COSTS OUT
OF THE POLICE BUDGET WHICH DOES
NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.
7.7% IS THE MOST ACCURATE
MEASURE OF WHAT IS BEING
ACHIEVED.
IT IS A REAL ACHIEVEMENT OF THE
MOVEMENT AND WE SHOULD
CELEBRATE THAT BUT OUR MOVEMENT
ALSO NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT
FOR WHAT IS NEEDED.
THE MOVEMENT HAS CONTINUED TO
DEMAND DEFUNDING THE POLICE TO
FUND THE NEEDS OF COMMUNITIES
INSTEAD.
>> THE COMMUNITY AND THE
MOVEMENT IS STILL URGING THE
COUNCIL TO DEFUND THE POLICE.
THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS
AMENDMENT WAS THAT FAILING TO
DEFUND THE BLACK LIVES MATTER
MOVEMENT AND EVERYBODY IN THE
SOLIDARITY WITH THEM WHICH
INCLUDES THE SOLIDARITY BUDGET
THEMSELVES, THE PEOPLE'S
MOVEMENT AND SOCIAL ALTERNATIVE
, WHAT THE MOVEMENT IS SAYING
IS THAT FAILING THE DEFUNDING
AT THE VERY LEAST, THE CITY
COUNCIL NEEDS TO INTERVIEW A
HIRING FREEZE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CALL 50% A
FREEZE. I WAS NOT AWARE THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MIRELES WAS GOING
TO BRING THIS.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR IN THE TERMS
OF NUMBERS.
WE DON'T WANT ACTIVISTS AND
WORKING PEOPLE TO BE CONFUSED.
50% HIRING FREEZE WILL BE
BETTER THAN NO HIRING
RESTRICTIONS AT ALL BUT IT IS
NOT THE SAME AS THE DEFUND.
IT JUST HAPPENS TO SHARE THE
VERBIAGE.
A 50% STOPPAGE IN HIRING IS NOT
THE SAME AS 50% DEFUNDING OF
THE POLICE.
I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THE
SUBSTITUTION BECAUSE THE
SUBSTITUTION RAISES THE
QUESTION OF WHETHER TO HIRE
ZERO OFFICERS OR HIGHER 57 NEW
OFFICERS IN 2021 AND OBVIOUSLY
AS THE SPONSOR OF THE ORIGINAL
AMENDMENT, I PREFER THAT THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT BE ABLE TO
HIRE ZERO NEW OFFICERS WHICH IS
WHAT A HIRING FREEZE MEANS AND
WHAT THE MOVEMENT HAS BEEN
DEMANDING.
IF THE SUBSTITUTION DOES GO
THROUGH, I WILL BE VOTING YES
ON ENDING AT LEAST 50% OF THE
HIRING IN 2021.
COUNCILMEMBERS TO VOTE YES TO
APPROVE THAT, I WILL CONSIDER
THAT FOR THE PEOPLE'S BUDGET
MOVEMENT IN THE SOLIDARITY
BUDGET.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I JUST WANTED TO, FOR
MYSELF, EVERYBODY ON THIS
COUNCIL WHO MADE COMMITMENTS
OVER THE SUMMER ABOUT RESPONSE
TO REQUESTS FROM COMMUNITY
MEMBERS MAY DIFFERENT
COMMITMENTS.
FOR MYSELF, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
I DID NOT MAKE A COMMITMENT TO
MAKE A 50% REDUCTION IN THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET IN
SIX MONTHS.
I COMMITTED TO DO A SPECIFIC
THING AN I DID THAT SPECIFIC
THING.
I PROMISED, IN RIGHTING TO
PROPOSE A $68 MILLION REDUCTION.
THIS WILL NOT BE THE STOPPING
POINT.
I HOPE I CAN MOVE FROM FOCUSING
ON WHERE THERE IS DIVISION AS
FAR AS THE SPEED AT WHICH WE
CAN REACH THESE GOALS.
I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE
EFFORTS TO CONTINUE REDUCTIONS
TO THE FOOTPRINT OF POLICING.
DEFINITELY I INTEND TO SUPPORT
FUTURE REDUCTIONS ONCE
COMMUNITY SAFETY ALTERNATIVES
THAT WE HAVE BEGUN TO FUND ARE
IN PLACE AND ARE READY TO
RESPOND TO CRISIS RESPONSE.
MY COMMITMENT OVER THE SUMMER
WAS A SPECIFIC THING THAT I
HAVE DONE.
I HAVE NOT COMMITTED TO A 50%
REDUCTION OVER A PARTICULAR
PERIOD OF TIME.
I MADE A COMMITMENT TO MAKE A
PARTICULAR PROPOSAL WHICH I DID
MAKE.
I AM PLEDGING TO CONTINUE
WORKING ON THIS EFFORT TO REDUCE
THE SIZE OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
THE STRUCTURE WE HAVE IN PLACE
ALLOWS US TO DO SO.
WHICH WILL RESULT IN A
REDUCTION FROM SPECIALTY UNITS
THAT ARE SERVING AN IMPORTANT
PURPOSE AT THIS TIME WITHOUT A
SUBSTITUTE COMMUNITY RESPONSE
SYSTEM IN PLACE. FINALLY, I
WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES SAID
EARLIER ABOUT THE STAFFING
PLAN.
WE MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A
DIFFERENCE OF STAFFING PLAN.
I THINK WHEN WE HAVE MAYBE
TALKED ABOUT THE STAFFING PLAN,
WE ARE MAYBE FOCUSED ON THE
RECRUITMENT AND THE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS THAT SPD FEELS THAT
THEY CAN HIRE GIVEN THE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE TO
INTERVIEW, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
ACADEMY AND OUT OF TRAINING.
THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER STAFFING
PLAN THAT I THINK COUNCILMEMBER
GONZCEZ TALKED A LOT ABOUT
WHEN WE HAD CHIEF DIAZ WITH US.
THAT STAFFING PLAN IS NOT --
THE SECOND PLAN IS WHAT THE
GOAL IS.
THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS WE ARE
SEEKING TO HAVE ON FORCE BE
FUNDED FOR.
THE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW, BY
REDUCING THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS
THAT WE ARE FUNDING IS SAYING
WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT
STAFFING PLAN.
WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT:A
LONGER.
AS COUNCILMEMBER GONZCEZ HAS
CLARIFIED IN PREVIOUS
CONVERSATIONS, WE DON'T MAKE A
STAFFING PLAN IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE BASED ON PER CAPITA
POPULATION OF THE CITY.
INSTEAD, WHAT WE LOOK AT, IS
THE OFFICER WORKLOAD.
THE NUMBER OF HOURS IT TAKES
FOR THEM TO DO THEIR JOB.
IN ORDER FOR US TO COME UP WITH
ANOTHER GOAL, ANOTHER NUMBER,
WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS A BIGGER
NUMBER OR A SMALLER NUMBER -- I
BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE A SMALLER
NUMBER.
WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE WORKLOAD.
WE HAVE TO CREATE A DIFFERENT
SET OF INPUT TO GO INTO THAT
FORMULA.
WE CAN'T HAVE A DIFFERENT SET
OF INPUT UNTIL WE HAVE ACTUALLY
REDUCED THE NUMBER OF THINGS
THAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOING.
WE CANNOT ACTUALLY REDUCE THE
NUMBERS OF POLICE OFFICERS
DOING UNTIL THE COMMUNITY'S
RESPONSE AND CITY RESPONSE
ALTERNATIVES THAT THE COUNCIL
HAS BEEN STOOD UP.
I AM JUST SIGNALING MY INTENT
TO NOT SUPPORT MY VOTE THIS
SUBSTITUTE.
THANK YOU.
>> MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE IS IN
FRONT OF US.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> I HAVE BEEN SITTING AND
LISTENING TO THE DEBATE AND I
WANTED TO JUST SIGNAL THAT I
HAVE NOT BEEN SAYING MUCH.
I THINK COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
HAS BEEN COVERING THE GROUND
VERY WELL.
I JUST WANTED TO SIGNAL THAT I
AGREE WITH THE POINT BEING MADE
BY COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
PUBLIC RECORD REFLECT'S THAT I
DO SUPPORT SOME OF THE POINTS
SHE HAS MADE.
I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
LATENESS OF THIS PROPOSAL AND
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD A
MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
SOME ANALYSIS ON THIS
PARTICULAR ISSUE. I AM NOT
CRITICIZING THE SPONSOR OR THE
SPONSORS AROUND THIS BUT I
THINK THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT
POLICY ISSUE THAT IS COMING UP
LED TO REALLY IN THE SECONDS OF
THE LAST BUDGET COMMITTEE
MEETING OF THIS PROCESS.
I DO WORRY THAT WE DON'T FULLY
UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT, THE
OPERATIONAL IMPACTS IF THIS
PROPOSAL WERE TO BE SUCCESSFUL
AND BE IMPLEMENTED AS PART OF
THE REVISED BALANCING PACKAGE.
I AM CONCERNED, AS IS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD , ABOUT
THE REALITY THAT THE CHIEF OF
POLICE HAS UNFETTERED AUTHORITY
TO MOVE BODIES AROUND WITHIN
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS HE
SEES FIT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
HOW WE WANT TO HAVE DETECT
LIVES INVESTIGATING HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND CHILD SEX ABUSE
CASES AND THOSE TYPES OF CASES,
WE CAN'T SAY THAT WHILE AT THE
SAME TIME BELIEVING THAT THERE
WILL NOT BE AN IMPACT TO THAT
CASELOAD IF WE FURTHER REDUCE
PATROL OPERATIONS WITHOUT HAVING
A FULLER UNDERSTANDING.
I JUST WANT TO CAUTION US ABOUT
MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND
THE FULL IMPACT OF WHAT THIS
CHOICE WILL BE.
WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A
HIRING FREEZE, WHETHER IS IT AT
$9 MILLION OR $100 MILLION,
WHETHER IT IS AT $10, THE
QUESTION STILL REMAINS.
ARE WE READY TO IMPLEMENT A
HIRING FREEZE. TO ME IT IS
DEPENDENT ON WHETHER OR NOT WE
HAVE THE COMMUNITY SAFETY
ALTERNATIVES AND PROGRAMS IN
PLACE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CRISIS.
I SPENT 10 YEARS REPRESENTING
VICTIMS OF CRIME. ELDERLY
PEOPLE IN NURSING HOMES WHO HAVE
BEEN RAPED.
THEY WERE TARGETED BECAUSE THEY
HAD ALZHEIMER'S AND DEMENTIA
AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
REMEMBER THEIR ASSAILANTS.
I HAVE REPRESENTED A VARIETY OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS.
EVERYTHING FROM CHILDREN TO THE
ELDERLY.
I HAVE SUED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
FOR COVERING UP THOSE ABUSES.
I AM NOT SAYING THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT WOULD HAVE
PREVENTED ANY OF THAT FROM
HAPPENING BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT
IT MEANS.
I DON'T WANT US TO TAKE ACTIONS
HERE THAT WILL MITIGATE OUR
ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND
TO THE CRISES.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE BETTER
SYSTEMS.
>>> WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT
INVESTMENTS OVER THE LAST SIX
MONTHS TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY LED
SAFETY PROGRAMS, BUT WHAT WE
HAVEN'T DONE IS ALLOWED THEM
THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY
SCALE UP.
SO THIS ISN'T ABOUT JUST
FLIPPING A SWITCH AND SAYING,
WELL WE TOOK A BUDGET ACTION
TODAY AND I SIGNED IT.
THEREFORE TOMORROW, IT'S A
SAFER PLACE.
WE HAVE TO GIVE FOLKS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY ABSORB
THE INVESTMENTS, RECEIVE THE
INVESTMENTS, AND BUILD TOWARDS
THOSE COMMUNITY SAFETY MODELS
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME,
ACKNOWLEDGING WE HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT
GOING TO SEE EXPONENTIAL GROWTH
IN ARMED LAW ENFORCEMENT
SYSTEMS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
HELPFUL IN SOME INSTANCES,
HARMFUL.
SO, I CONTINUE TO BE COMMITTED
TO THE EFFORT OF THE FUNCTIONAL
ANALYSIS THAT IS UNDERWAY TO
SEE WHAT CAN BE ELIMINATED,
WHAT CAN BE REDUCED, AND I
THINK THAT WE WILL GET DATA AND
REPORTS OVER THE NEXT SIX
MONTHS THAT WILL ALLOW US A
BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE
WHERE THE NUMBER, IN TERMS OF
THE STAFFING MODEL SHOULD BE,
BASED ON THAT EVALUATION.
AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME OF
US ARE DISAGREEING HERE ABOUT
THE PACE AND THE SCALE AND THE
SPEED WITH WHICH WE SHOULD BE
MAKING THESE DECISIONS, BUT I
PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE I NEED A
LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO BE ABLE
TO UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT THE
OPERATIONAL IMPACTS WILL BE
HERE IN THE CON TEXT OF THE
NEED TO RESPOND TO PEOPLE WHO
ARE IN CRISIS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE STATUS
QUO RIGHT NOW IS THAT PEOPLE
MOST OFTEN WILL THINK ABOUT
CALLING 911 WHEN THEY ARE IN
CRISIS.
AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD
TOWARDS IS A SYSTEM WHERE
THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
AND I REMAIN COMMITTED TO THAT
ULTIMATE GOAL AND REMAIN
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH ALL
OF YOU AS COLLEAGUES TO FIGURE
OUT HOW WE GET THERE.
BUT JUST WANTED TO VOCALIZE MY
SUPPORT FOR THE RATIONAL THAT
HAS BEEN EXPRESSED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
AT THIS POINT, THERE IS A
MOTION IN FRONT OF US.
I AM GOING TO ASK THE CLERK TO
CALL THE ROLE.
I WANT TO REMIND FOLKS ABOUT
WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE PROCESS.
AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU,
COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR HAVING
WORKED TO ASK THE QUESTION THAT
WE COULD BETTER UNDERSTAND IF
THERE WAS A MIDDLE POINT THERE.
I DO PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT
THIS IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHERE
I THINK WE COULD BE GOING.
THIS ATTRITION THAT CONTINUES
THE TREND, BUT DOESN'T HAVE
SUCH A STEEP CURVE AND I THINK
THAT THE WAY IN WHICH A
POTENTIAL REJECTION OF THE
HIRING PLAN BY HALF WOULD
PROBABLY PLAY OUT IF OFFICERS
WOULD CONTINUE TO BE RETIRED
POSITIONS THEY LEFT AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND THAT
WOULD GIVE US TIME FOR
POTENTIAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO
GET SCALED UP AND THAT
OPERATIONAL IMPACTS OF A
REDUCTION IN THE FORCE COULD
THEN POTENTIALLY BE OFFSET.
I THINK THAT IF THIS DOES NOT
GO FORWARD TODAY AND AGAIN,
WE'RE JUST AT THE SUBSTITUTE
MOTION HERE, THEN I THINK THE
QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT HAVE BEFORE ARE VERY
IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE TO
LOOK INTO THE FUNCTIONAL
ANALYSIS OF THAT RIGHT
REDUCTION, AND MAKING SURE THAT
FOR ME, I THINK I'LL CONTINUE
TO LOOK AT THAT 1295 NUMBER AND
SEE HOW WE CAN EITHER STAY
THERE OR CONTINUE TO GO
SLIGHTLY DOWN AS THE SUBSTITUTE
HAD SUGGESTED.
I APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE ALL,
AGAIN, UNDERSCORING NO MATTER
HOW WE VOTE ON THIS, THAT THERE
HAS BEEN A LOT OF MOVEMENT
ALREADY IN THIS BUDGET.
TREMENDOUS TRACTION AND
INVESTMENTS IN COMMUNITY
ALTERNATIVES TO PUBLIC SAFETY,
INVESTMENTS IN HOUSING, AND
SUPPORT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND
WE HAVE MADE AS A COUNCIL
MEMBER NOTED, REDUCTIONS IN THE
PLACE FORCE, AS I NOTED LAST
WEEK FIRST TIME THE COUNCIL HAS
NOT ADDED MONEY AND IN FACT,
NOT JUST HELD STAGNANT, BUT
REDUCING.
SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF THOSE
EFFORTS ARE READY AND I JUST
DON'T WANT THE TOPIC AT HAND TO
BE DEDUCED TO JUST THIS ONE
ISSUE IN FRONT OF US, WHEN IT
IS MUCH BIGGER AND COUNCIL
MEMBERS HAVE SPOKEN TO THAT.
I APPRECIATE THE BROAD SUPPORT
OR MANY OF THE PIECES THAT HAVE
DOWNSIZED AND DIVESTED FROM A
SYSTEM WE KNOW IS IN SOME WAYS,
NOT RESPONDING TO THE NEED,
WHICH IS MENTAL HEALTH, CASE
MANAGEMENT, AND OTHER COMMUNITY
SUPPORTS WHICH WE ARE SCALING
UP.
I HAVE TO DO THIS EACH TIME I
TALK ABOUT IT.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU
HAVE ALL DONE ON THAT SCALING
UPSIDE.
THERE WILL BE SUPPORTING THE
MOTION HERE TODAY TO
SUBSTITUTE.
MADAME CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE
CALL THE ROLE ON THE MOTION TO
SUBSTITUTE.
AS A REMINDER, I KNOW ALI WILL
REMIND ME, THIS IS NOT A VOTE
ON THE SUBSTITUTE.
THIS IS A VOTE ON THE MOTION TO
REPLACE THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA
WITH THE SUBSTITUTE THAT HAS
BEEN MOVED IN FRONT OF US.
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT?
OKAY, NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.
NO QUESTIONS?
LET'S GO AHEAD, MADAME CLERK.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING THE ROLE
ON THE MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE.
>> LEWIS.
>> ABSTAIN.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> PETERSON.
>> NO.
>> STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> GONZALES.
>> NO.
>> HERBAL.
>> NO.
>> JUAREZ.
>> NO.
>> YES.
>> TWO IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSED
AND ONE ABSTAINED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAME
CLERK.
THE MOTION FAILS AND THE MOTION
TO SUBSTITUTE IS NOT ADVANCED.
WE ARE, COUNCIL MEMBER, BACK AT
YOUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.
BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN
SUBSTITUTED.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS, OR
DEBATE ON THE ITEM THAT IS IN
FRONT OF US SPD020-A00?
I'M SORRY, WRONG ITEM.
SPD, 018-A001.
MADAME CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE
CALL THE ROLE ON SPD, DID I
MISS A HAND?
JUST MAKING SURE.
SPD018A001.
>> LEWIS.
>> NO.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> PETERSON.
>> NO.
>> SUANT.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> GONZALES.
>> NO.
>> HERBOL.
>> NO.
>> JUAREZ.
>> NO.
>> TWO IN FAVOR, SEVEN OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU MADAME CLERK.
THE MOTION FAILS.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM
HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, ANOTHER ITEM
RELATED TO SPD.
I WILL HAVE THE CENTRAL STOCK
WALK US THROUGH THAT ITEM, AND
COUNCIL MEMBER, I'LL MOVE TO
YOU TO MAKE THE MOTION.
>> THE NEXT ITEM IS 169, WHICH
IS SPD-020-A-001.
IT WOULD ADD $151 MILLION
GENERAL FUND TO THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING.
FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDED
BY THE MULTIFAMILY LENDING
PROGRAM.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED AS THE SPONSOR TO
MOVE THIS ITEM.
>> THANK YOU.
I MOVE TO CUT $151 MILLION FROM
THE GENERAL FUND AND ADD
$151 MILLION GENERAL FUND
DOLLARS TO THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING.
JUST TO QUICKLY CLARIFY.
I WANT TO REPEAT THE POINTS I
MADE ABOUT DEFUNDING THE POLICE
BY 50%.
INSTEAD, FUND NEED TO THE
COMMUNITY.
JUST TO EXPLAIN THE NUMBER FOR
THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WATCHING
THE CENTRAL STAFF CAN CONFIRM
THIS.
$151MILLION NUMBER IS A 50%
DEFUNDING AFTER INCORPORATING
FOR THE REDUCTIONS THAT HAVE
ALREADY BEEN MADE WITH THE
PROPOSED BUDGET.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, THE MOTION HAS
BEEN MADE.
IS THERE A SECOND?
HEARING NONE.
THE MOTION FAILS.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE
LAST ITEM.
I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ,
THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT
ORIGINALLY YOU HAD BEEN WORKING
WITH CENTRAL STAFF ON WITH THE
BUDGET COMMITTEE.
SO, IT WAS MOVED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER TO BE CONSIDERED AT THE
END OF GROUP C. JUST FOR OUR
REFERENCE ON WHERE THIS ITEM
CME FROM.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN OUR GROUP
A CONSENT PACKAGE.
SO, MADAME CHAIR, YOU ARE
REFERRING TO NUMBER 8.
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> OKAY.
>> SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER
JUAREZ.
>> I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT IT WAS
ALL READY TO GO.
SORRY.
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR
ENTHUSIASM.
>> YEAH.
OKAY.
GREAT.
GO AHEAD.
>> COUNCIL MEMBERS, ITEM 8,
WOULD RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF
RESOLUTION 31975.
THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE
CITY TO PROVIDE A REDUCED LEVEL
OF GENERAL FUND SUPPORT TO THE
SEATTLE PARKS AND RECREATION IN
2021 DUE TO THE DEMANDING
ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES CAUSED
BY THE COVID PANDEMIC.
THE SUPPORT TO SPR WOULD RESULT
IN THE CITY UNABLE TO MEET THE
BASELINE GENERAL FUND
ALLOCATION REQUIRED BY THE
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND
THE SEATTLE PARK DISTRICT.
THE 2021 AMOUNT WOULD HAVE BEEN
$103 MILLION AND THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD PROVIDE
$97 MILLION OF SUPPORT.
>>
>> THANK YOU.
EXPLAIN THE RATIONAL FOR
PULLING IT AND I'LL GO TO THE
ORIGINAL PROPONENT OF THIS.
EXCUSE ME COUNCIL MEMBER
SUAREZ.
RECOGNIZE TO EXPLAIN THE
RATIONAL FOR THE POLL.
>> THANK YOU.
I WILL NOT SPEAK AT LENGTH,
BECAUSE I ALREADY DESCRIBED IT.
THIS ESSENTIALLY AUTHORIZES THE
CITY TO HAVE MAJOR BUDGET CUTS
IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND
BASICALLY THE TECHNICAL
QUESTION IS, THE CUTS IN THE
PARKS DEPARTMENT GREATER THAN
WOULD OTHERWISE LEGALLY BE
ALLOWED.
I DO NOT SUPPORT THE BUDGET
CUTS AND I HAVE, AS COUNCIL
MEMBERS KNOW, PROVIDED AN
ALTERNATIVE THAT WOULD HAVE
PREVENTED THOSE CUTS AND
UNFORTUNATELY, I WILL BE VOTING
NO ON AUTHORIZING THESE CUTS TO
COMMUNITY CENTERS, AND THE
MAINTENANCE OF OUR PARKS.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ, AND
SOME QUESTIONS OF CENTRAL STAFF
AS WELL.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS
ITEM AS YOU ORIGINALLY, I
THINK, HAVE SEEN IT IN OUR
GROUP A CONSENT PACKAGE
PREVIOUSLY.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> YES, VERY BRIEFLY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'M SORRY.
TRACY.
THANK YOU FOR TEEING THAT UP
FOR ME.
SO YOU ALL KNOW THAT AGENDA
ITEM 8 IS A PARKS RESOLUTION
THAT AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO
PROVIDE A REDUCED LEVEL OF
GENERAL FUND SUPPORT FOR
SEATTLE PARKS AND REC DUE TO
COVID-19.
IT IS A $6 MILLION DECREASE IN
GENERAL FUNDS TO PARKS THAT WE
UNDERSTAND APPROVE AND HAVE
VOTED ON IN THE PAST TO MOVE
FORWARD.
SUPERINTENDENT HAS ALSO PLANNED
FOR THIS, SO THIS IS NOTHING
NEW.
NO SURPRISE THERE.
SO AS THE CHAIR PARKS, I
UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO SHIFT
THE FUNDS TO RESPOND TO THIS
GROWING PANDEMIC.
THIS BUDGET WOULD AFFIRM THE
ACCEPTANCE OF THE GENERAL FUND
CUT AS WE CONTINUE TO FACE A
GROWING PANDEMIC, WHICH FALLS
UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE PASSED THAT IN SEPTEMBER.
TRACY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THIS IS A TECHNICAL PIECE THAT
WE HAVE DISCUSSED BEFORE.
IT'S NOTHING NEW.
I RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL VOTE YES TO ADOPT
COUNCIL BUDGET ACTION
BLG009-A-002, WHICH AFFIRMS
RESOLUTION 3975.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
LET'S DO THE FINAL VOTE FOR
FORM C. MADAME CLERK.
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE
ON ADOPTION.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, HAS THIS
BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED?
>> OH, ALI --
>> OH MAN.
LET'S DO THAT.
>> SO, COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ,
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MOVE IT?
>> YES.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF BLG009A-002,
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> WONDERFUL.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
>> NO.
>> MADAME CLERK, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL NOW.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> PETERSON.
>> YES.
>> SUWANT.
>> NO.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> GONZALES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOL.
I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T GET THAT.
>> WE'LL COME BACK TO HER IF
YOU CAN, MADAME CLERK.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> 8 IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAME
CLERK.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE ITEM
IS ADOPTED.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE
GOOD OF THE ORDER?
ALI, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
I WILL JUST SAY THANK YOU TO
THE COMMITTEE AND JUST NOTE
THAT ON MONDAY, THERE WILL BE
SOME FINAL ACTIONS AND SOME
TECHNICAL CLEANUP AND WE WILL
GET THOSE TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS
OUT AS SOON AS WE CAN, BUT THEY
MAY BE A BIT LATE BREAKING AS
WE RECONCILE ALL THESE
DECISIONS OVER THE NEXT FEW
DAYS.
BUT AGAIN, THE AMENDS WILL BE
TECHNICAL IN NATURE, NOT
SUBSTANTIVE FROM A PERFECTIVE,
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE
FINAL VOTE ON MONDAY.
>> OKAY.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I DO WANT FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO
ENJOY THE WEEKEND AS WELL.
YOU HAVE ALL PUT IN SO MUCH
WORK ON THIS BUDGET.
I WANT US TO REMEMBER THE HOLE
THE HOLISTIC.
HISTORIC INVESTMENTS IN
COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT
FOLKS HAD ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
FOR HOMELESSNESS SERVICES.
COMPLETELY RECON FIGURING HOW
WE ENGAGE WITH OUR UNSHELTERED
POPULATION.
MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S CASE
MANAGERS AND APPROPRIATE
OUTREACH.
WE ARE CLEANING UP THE CITY.
YOU HAVE ALL INVESTED IN MAKING
SURE OUR CLEAN CITIES
INITIATIVE COMPLIMENTS THE
LONGER TERM INVESTMENTS IN HAND
WASHING AND PURPLE BAGS.
YOU MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR OUR
COMMUNITY TO HAVE ACCESS TO
CHILD CARE SERVICES AND
ADDITIONAL HOUSING SUPPORT.
YOU HAVE HELPED MAKE SURE
WORKING FAMILIES AND SENIORS
HAVE ACCESS TO FOOD AND THAT WE
ADDRESS FOOD INSECURITY IN THIS
TIME OF CRISIS.
YOU ALSO HELPED SURE UP SUPPORT
FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, THROUGH THE
COVID RELIEF AND INVESTMENTS IN
THIS BUDGET.
THERE'S A LOT TO BE REALLY
PROUD OF AND AS WE THOUGHT
ABOUT THIS BUDGET OVER THE LAST
TWO MONTHS, WE HAVE BEEN IN
WAVES OF ANGUISH ABOUT HOW WE
WERE GOING TO MAKE INVESTMENTS
THAT WE NEEDED TO INTO THE
COMMUNITY.
SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN POSSIBLE
BECAUSE WE DID GET A BETTER
THAN EXPECTED REVENUE FORECAST.
BUT REALLY, IT'S BEEN POSSIBLE
BECAUSE ALL OF YOU PRIORITIZED
DIRECT INVESTMENTS INTO OUR
MOST VULNERABLE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE
WORK YOU HAVE DONE.
ESPECIALLY AS I SEE THE COUNCIL
MEMBER.
ALL OF THE HISTORIC INVESTMENTS
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE INTO THE
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY.
HISTORIC INVESTMENTS IN MAKING
SURE OUR REFUGEES AND IMMIGRANT
PROGRAMS ARE FUNDED AND WE
INVEST IN BLACK YOUNG YOUTH
PROGRAMS.
THIS IS REALLY, I THINK, A
TREMENDOUS EFFORT THAT YOU HAVE
PUT FORWARD.
AS WE HEAD INTO THE WEEKEND AND
YOU GET A CHANCE TO REFLECT ON
THE BUDGET AS A WHOLE, PLEASE
DO CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE OUT
TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE ALL
OF THE VARIOUS WAYS WE INVESTED
IN THIS BUDGET.
WE MADE SURE MORE PEOPLE ARE
HOUSED, MORE PEOPLE ARE SAFE,
AND WE HAVE MADE SURE THAT WE
ARE INVESTING IN GREEN NEW DEAL
PRIORITIES AS WE ALSO SURE UP
OUR COMMITMENTS TO MAKING SURE
WE HAVE A THRIVING AND
EQUITABLE ECONOMY.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS?
>> YES.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> MADAME CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE ú
COUNTRY, WE RAISE OUR HANDS TO
YOU.
THANK YOU, THANK AWE ALL OF YOU
FOR OUR HARD WORK.
WE ALL BROUGHT OUR MINDS AND
HEARTS TOGETHER.
TRIED TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE
LOVE YOUR NEW SWAG, WAY TO GO.
WITH OUR NEW HOCKEY TEAM.
LOOKING GOOD OVER THERE.
AND I THINK ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS
ARE GOING TO MAKE A BRIGHTER
TOMORROW FOR FOLKS IN A REALLY
DARK TIME RIGHT NOW.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE
POSSIBLE IN 2021.
AND I WANT TO THANK OUR CENTRAL
STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING
AROUND THE CLOCK, HAVING THEIR
FAMILY PRIORITIES AND COMMUNITY
PRIORITIES PUT ON HOLD AS THEY
WORKED AROUND THE CLOCK.
SO WE THANK YOU, WE THANK ALL
OF OUR STAFF, FOLKS IN MY
STAFF, ALL OF YOUR TEAMS, WE
COULD NOT DO EVERY LITTLE
MANEUVER THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
HAS MADE A MASSIVE IMPACT ON
THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WE
RECEIVED AND WANT TO JUST SAY
THANK YOU.
SO, HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND, WE
WILL SEE YOU ON MONDAY.
OUR MEETING WILL CONVENE AT
10:00 A.M.
OR WHEN THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
ADJOURNS OR MORNING BRIEFING.
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 23.
WHERE WE WILL FINALIZE ITEMS IN
THE BUDGET AS ALI SAID AND
REALLY HOPING FOLKS DO GET A
CHANCE TO REFLECT ON ALL THE
GREAT THINGS YOU PUT IN HERE.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ANYTHING
ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER
BEFORE WE HEAD OFF FOR MONDAY?
>> NO.
>> OKAY.
>> JUST BUCKLE IN.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG DAY.
I SUSPECT ON MONDAY.
SO OUR WORK IS NOT DONE, EVEN
THOUGH THE GOOD CHAIR IS MAKING
COMMENTS.
CERTAINLY NOT OVER, THANKS
AGAIN TO ALL OUR COUNCIL
ESSENTIAL STAFF.
>> EXCELLENT.
HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR DAY.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AND
WE'LL SEE YOU ON MONDAY.