>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
TODAY IS NOVEMBER 23, 2020, AND
SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE OF
SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL, WELCOME
TO ORDER.
MY NAME IS TERESA MOSQU EDA.
CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> MORALES.
>> HERE.
>> PEDERSEN.
SAWANT.
>> HERE.
>> STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> HERE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> HERE.
>> JUAREZ.
>> HERE.
>> LEWIS.
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> HERE.
>> NINE PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM
CLERK.
APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR LEARNING.
THE LAST AND FINAL SELECT
BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING OF
2021'S DELIBERATIONS, REALLY
APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK
THAT'S GONE INTO THE BUDGET.
WE WILL BE WRAPPING UP QUARTER
THREE DISCUSSIONS.
THIS IS A LONG DAY SO I WILL
KEEP MY COMMENTS SHORT TO SAY
WE HAVE TESTIMONY.
WE WILL GIVE FOLKS 45 SECONDS
TO TESTIFY TO TRY TO GET
THROUGH EVERYONE IN OUR LAST
DAY.
TODAY'S AGENDA IS PUBLISHED,
INCLUDES A FEW ITEMS THAT ARE
TECHNICAL IN NATURE AS WE WRAP
UP OUR DISCUSSION.
WE WILL THEN ROLL INTO FULL
COUNCIL WHERE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
WILL LEAD US THROUGH THE
AFTERNOON'S FINAL VOTE ON THE
BUDGET IN FRONT OF US.
AS WE HAVE EVERY DAY, WE WILL
START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND
GET RIGHT INTO IT, HAVE CENTRAL
STAFF WALK US THROUGH THE ITEMS
ON THE AGENDA AND THEN WE'LL
TAKE THE VOTES.
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION,
TODAY'S AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED.
HEARING NO OBJECTION, TODAY'S
AGENDA IS ADOPTED.
LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE FIRST THREE SPEAKERS, AS A
REMINDER, YOU WILL HEAR A CHIME
THAT SAYS YOU HAVE BEEN
UNMUTED.
THAT IS YOUR PROMPT TO
INDIVIDUALLY PUSH STAR 6. THAT
UNMUTES YOUR LINE AS WELL.
WE WILL ASK YOU TO SPEAK FOR 45
SECONDS, WILL GIVE YOU A 10
SECOND REMINDER SO WE CAN BE
SURE YOU HAVE THE CHIME TO KNOW
TO WRAP UP COMMENTS.
THIS IS THE HEELS OF NOW OVER
ALMOST I BELIEVE 15 HOURS OF
PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
SO A LOT OF APPRECIATION FOR
EVERYONE WHO HAS CALLED A FEW
TIMES.
FOR ANYBODY CALLING FOR THE
FIRST TIME, WE REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU DIALING IN.
AFTER YOU PROVIDE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY AS A REMINDER, PLEASE
HANG UP AND THEN CALL IN ON ANY
OF THE LISTEN IN OPTIONS
PROVIDED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
IF YOU DON'T GET A CHANCE TO
GET THROUGH YOUR COMMENTS, WE
ARE HAPPY TO RECEIVE THOSE AS
WE WILL BE CONSIDERING MANY
ITEMS THROUGHOUT UPCOMING
MONTHS EVEN THOUGH BUDGET
DELIBERATIONS ARE COMING TO A
CLOSE.
WITH THAT, IF WE CAN GET THE
TIMER ON THE CLOCK, WE WILL DO
45 SECONDS.
LUCAS, I SEE YOU UP FIRST.
BEFORE YOU START, LET ME
CONFIRM WITH OUR TECH TEAM THAT
WE HAVE ALL THE CHIMERS IN
PLACE.
>> ONE SECOND.
>> NO PROBLEM.
>> THANK YOU.
>> EXCELLENT.
GOOD MORNING, LUCAS.
THANKS FOR WAITING.
>> THANKS.
I AM A VOLUNTEER WITH 350
SEATTLE AND MEMBER OF UAW.
I AM CALLING TO SUPPORT THE
AMENDMENT PUTTING $2 MILLION
EARMARKED TO THE HIRING BUDGET
TOWARDS COMMUNITY SAFETY
SOLUTION.
THE LEVEL IS IMMENSE POSSIBLY
MORE THAN ANY OTHER TIME IN OUR
CITY'S INDUSTRY.
MORE POLICE OFFICERS IS THE
LAST THING WE NEED AND COUNCIL
SHOULD MAKE GOOD ON THE
COMMITMENT TO SCALE UP
CURRENTLY UNDER FUNDED
COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY.
AS A RESIDENT AND FREQUENT
PROTESTER I HAVE SEEN SPD'S
BEHAVIOR UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.
THEY DON'T DESERVE BENEFIT OF
THE DOUBT FROM THE CITY
COUNCIL.
THE AMENDMENT WOULD SEND THE
MESSAGE THAT THE CITY IS
WILLING AND ABLE TO FUND
SOLUTIONS THAT CAN KEEP US SAFE
...
PLEASE PASS COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA'S AMENDMENT TODAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
DEREK, GOOD MORNING.
>> HI.
MY NAME IS DEREK.
I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT 6. AN
UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF
CONSTITUENTS HAVE CALLED, E-
MAILED, GIVEN TESTIMONY
DEMANDING TO DEFUND SPD, NOT
GROW THE POLICE FORCE.
IN ADDITION TO THIS TESTIMONY,
I WANT TO ASK THAT DAN STRAUSS,
WHEN YOU VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT
TO CUT SPD'S HIRING BUDGET,
KEEP IN MIND YOUR OWN WORDS
FROM EARLIER THIS SUMMER WHEN
YOU TOLD US IT IS CLEAR TO ME
WE AS A CITY, STATE, NATION ARE
OUT OF LINE WITH OUR MORAL
COMPASS.
OUR CHILDREN WILL QUESTION
MORAL APTITUDE.
THEY WILL QUESTION WHY WE
DIDN'T DO MORE.
THEY WILL QUESTION WHY REUSED
MILITARIZED RESPONSES.
THEY WILL QUESTION WHY WE
DIDN'T MEET THE BASIC REQUEST
IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO STOP
KILLING US.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING ALICIA.
GO AHEAD.
>> HI.
GOOD MORNING.
I AM ALICIA GREENWELL WITH
COALITION ENDING GENDER BASED
VIOLENCE.
WE WERE DISAPPOINTED IN THE
VOTE LAST WEEK ...
DOMESTIC SEXUAL STRICT MISASIAN
HAS BEEN USED BUT OVER RELIANCE
ON POLICE DOESN'T MAKE US
SAFER.
WHAT WILL END GENDER BASED
VIOLENCE IS SUPPORTING
COMMUNITIES, INVESTMENTS, BASIC
HUMAN NEEDS, PATHWAYS TO TRUE
HEALING AND ACCOUNTABILITY, KEY
COMPONENTS OF THE CITY.
WE STAND WITH THE MANY CALLING
FOR TRUE SIGNIFICANT
DIVESTMENT.
PLEASE REVISIT YOUR VOTE ON THE
KEY PROPOSAL BEFORE YOUR FINAL
BUDGET VOTES TODAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, HOWARD.
YOU ARE UP NEXT.
>> GOOD MORNING.
HOWARD DALE, DISTRICT 7. IN
2010 YOU FAILED WHEN JOHN T
WILLIAMS WAS KILLED AND
INDEPENDENT GROUPS HAD TO CALL
FOR USDOJ TO INVESTIGATE
SEATTLE.
IN 2011, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17
YOU FAILED US WHEN MORE PEOPLE
WERE KILLED AND BLACK LIVES
PROTESTERS WERE JAILED.
YOU FAILED AGAIN WEEKS LATER
WHEN IN RESPONSE TO LYLES'
MURDER YOU ACTIVELY PROMPTLY
HIT THE SMOOTH BUTTON.
YOU FAILED BYPASSING A POLICE
CONTRACT THAT UNDER CUT WHAT
LITTLE ACCOUNTABILITY WE HAD.
IN 2019 YOU FAILED BY I FEEL
MORING MURDERS OF RODRIGUEZ AND
SMITH AND YOU IGNORED US BY
IGNORING MURDERS AND FAILED
AGAIN BY ACTING WOKE IN
RESPONSE TO GEORGE FLOYD.
>> THANK YOU, HOWARD.
GOOD MORNING ELAINA.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ELAINA PEREZ.
AS PART OF THE COALITION WE
SURGE YOU TO SUPPORT SPD25
OPTION B TO CUT 2 MILLION FROM
SPD SALARIES AND FUND COMMUNITY
LED PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTMENT.
WE ARE AN ORGANIZATION THAT
BUILDS POWER WITH ORGANIZATIONS
AND COMMUNITIES MOST DIRECTLY
IMPACTED BY CLIMATE CRISIS,
COVID, LACK OF GOOD JOBS,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, POLICE
VIOLENCE.
THE SOLUTIONS TO POLICE
VIOLENCE ARE UNKNOWN BY FRONT
LINE COMMUNITIES AND IT IS THEY
WHO YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO.
YOUTH HAVE LED MARCHES IN THE
STREETS FOR MONTHS DEMANDING
YOU FULFILL YOUR COMMITMENT TO
DEFUND BY 50%.
AT THE LEAST, VERY MINIMUM, SPD
SHOULD NOT BE EXPANDING ON YOUR
WATCH.
TAKE ACTION TODAY.
SUPPORT THE OPTION B AND
FULFILL YOUR COMMITMENT FOR
COMMUNITY SAFETY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
AMY, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS AMY TOWER.
I AM A RENTER AND RESIDENT IN
DISTRICT 4 AND I AM ATTENDANT
COUNSELOR AND ORGANIZER.
WE STAND WITH THE SOLIDARITY
BUDGET AND URGE COUNCIL TO VOTE
YES FOR COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA'S AMENDMENT TO CUT
HIRING BUDGET BY 2 MILLION.
THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.
WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE FOR THE
LONG HAUL TO DEFUND SPD BY AT
LEAST 50%.
DIVESTING INVOLVES SHRINKING
THE BUDGET, REINVESTING FUNDS
IN COMMUNITY, SHRINKING SIZE OF
THE POLICE FORCE AND THIS IS A
GREAT STEP THAT WE NEED TO BE
FOR SURE TAKING.
THANKS SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT THREE ARE JACKSON, EMILY,
BRITTANY.
GOOD MORNING, JACKSON.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS JACKSON PEACH LIKE THE
FRUIT.
I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT 4. I
AM CALLING TO SAY I SHARE
PREVIOUS CALLERS'
DISAPPOINTMENT WITH LAST WEEK'S
VOTE TO NOT FOLLOW THROUGH WITH
THE HIRING FREEZE IN 2021 AND
TO EXTEND THE BUDGET AND TO
URGE THE COUNCIL ESPECIALLY
PEDERSEN TO VOTE YES ON THE
AMENDMENT TO CUT SPD'S HIRING
BUDGET BY $2 MILLION AS A
PRELUDE TO FURTHER KIDS AND
FURTHER SHRINKING.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A SAFE CITY
ESPECIALLY WITH THE WRECKAGE
THAT COVID AND HOUSING CRISES
ARE LEAVING US IN, WE NEED TO
INVEST IN COMMUNITY LED
SOLUTIONS AND NOT EXTEND SPD.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
SORRY FOR THE MISPRONUNCIATION.
YOU SAID THAT LAST TIME.
I GOT IT.
PEACH.
GOT IT.
>>> MY NAME IS EMILY GRAND AND
I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT
THREE.
I AM CALLING TO URGE CITY
COUNCIL TO VOTE YES ON THE
BUDGET AMENDMENT TO CUT SPD'S
HIRING BUDGET BY $2 MILLION AND
TO INVEST IN COMMUNITY LEVEL
ALTERNATIVES.
IT IS VITAL TO PREVENT SCALE
DOWN ...
NECESSARY TO EVENTUALLY
DEFUNDING SPD.
THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS
IMPORTANT STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION BUT WE MUST RECOGNIZE
IT IS JUST THAT, A SMALL STEP
ON OUR WAY TO A MORE EQUITABLE
COMMUNITY.
THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT ENOUGH TO
FIX THE HARM SPD CAUSES BUT IT
AND FURTHER CUTS IN THE FUTURE
ARE NECESSARY.
CUTTING SPD'S HIRING BUDGET IS
THE LEAST CITY COUNCIL CAN DO
TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND
HELP US GET BACK ON OUR FEET TO
THE CRISES WE ARE CURRENTLY
FACING.
THANK YOU.
>> BRITTANY, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM CHAIR OF THE CLUB SEATTLE
GROUP.
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL
FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THE
BUDGET WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST
PRO ENVIRONMENT BUDGETS IN
YEARS.
WE'D LIKE TO ASK FOR ONE MORE
THING.
SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT TODAY,
REMOVING ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION
FROM THE SPD BUDGET.
OUR MISSION IS TO CREATE A
WORLD SAFE AND HEALTHY FOR
EVERY LIVING BEING.
TO REALIZE THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE
WITHOUT ENSURING SAFETY OF
BLACK LIVES.
DOING THIS IS REMOVING RACIST
POLICING ...
THANK YOU FOR STARTING AND
CONTINUING THIS WEEK.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT THREE ARE ED, DANIEL,
DANIEL SINCE YOU ARE NOT
PRESENT, IF YOU WANT TO CALL
IN, WE'LL GET TO YOU.
ED, GOOD MORNING.
LOOKING FOR ED.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM A CAREGIVER IN DISTRICT 3
AND PROUD MEMBER OF 775.
I WANT TO TELL YOU WHY BLACK
LIVES MATTER TO ME AND WHY THEY
SHOULD MATTER TO YOU IN YOUR
FINAL CONSIDERATION OF THE
BUDGET.
PAT BATISTE, SCOTT, BARBARA
JARED, CLARENCE ACOX, RON
DAVIS.
THESE ARE TEACHERS, BUSINESS
OWNERS, COACHES, MENTORS I GREW
UP WITH.
THESE BLACK LIVES CHALLENGED ME
TO BE AN AGENT OF PROGRESS
DESPITE THE HUMILIATIONS UNDER
POLICING.
TO THIS DAY I AM HUMBLED BY
THEIR GRACE AND COMPASSION.
THESE BLACK LIVES MATTER BUT
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR
ANOTHER TRAGEDY TO HOLLER
OUTRAGE AT THEIR TREATMENT.
YOU CAN SAY THEIR NAMES, INVOKE
THEIR SPIRIT, PUT THE MONEY
BACK IN THE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DANIEL, IT STILL SAYS YOU ARE
NOT PRESENT.
WE WILL GO TO INGRID.
GOOD MORNING, INGRID.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT 6, AN
ORGANIZATION AT STAND.EARTH.
WE SUPPORT THE SOLIDARITY
BUDGET BECAUSE WE KNOW REAL
SOLUTIONS ARE IN COMMUNITIES
BUT CLIMATE JUSTICE AND RACIAL
JUSTICE ARE DEEPLY CONNECTED
AND OVERLAPPING AND IT IS PAST
TIME ...
I WANT TO THANK THE
COUNCILMEMBER FOR CONTINUNG TO
PUSH THE ISSUE AND SAY WE
SUPPORT THE INTRODUCTION OF THE
AMENDMENT TO REDIRECT FUNDS TO
COMMUNITY LED SOLUTIONS.
I AM HERE TO URGE YOU TO
SUPPORT THE SMALL BUT IMPORTANT
CUT.
IT REPRESENTS A FRACTION OF
WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS, FAR
FROM A PROMISE WHEN COUNCIL
MEMBERS COMMITTED TO DEFUNDING
BY 50%.
WITH HE MUST DO EVERYTHING
POSSIBLE IN THE MOMENT TO BEGIN
WHAT WILL SURELY BE A LONG
PROCESS.
>> THANK YOU.
PLEASE SEND IN THE REST OF YOUR
COMMENTS IF WE PUT YOU OFF.
APOLOGIES.
>> MICHAEL, IT SAYS YOU ARE
LISTED AS NOT PRESENT.
DIAL IN IF YOU CAN.
AHMAD GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM IN SEATTLE.
I AM ASKING YOU TO LISTEN TO
THE COMMUNITY.
WE MUST INSTITUTE OF SEATTLE
POLICE IN 2021.
EACH OF YOU PROMISED TO DEFUND
SPD.
YOU SAID WE MUST TAKE ACTION
NOW.
ONLY MORALES AND SAWANT
DELIVERED ON THE PROMISE.
TODAY YOU CAN ALL MAKE GOOD ON
YOUR PROMISE TO REDUCE IN 2021.
THAT'S THE BARE MINIMUM AND
LEAST YOU CAN DO FOR THE
COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT IS ANTHONY.
GOOD MORNING, ANTHONY.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM CALLING FROM BRIDGING
CULTURAL GAPS.
WE'RE IN COMPLETE OPPOSITION OF
ANY FUNDING GOING TO THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN
ADDITION TO WHAT THEY GET.
THEY SHOULD BE CUT MORE AND
MONIES TO BE INVESTED IN THE
COMMUNITY IN ORGANIZATIONS THAT
KNOW HOW TO GET TO THE ROOTS OF
THE PROBLEMS SO YOU DON'T NEED
A POLICE RESPONSE.
WE ARE ALREADY BEING OVER
POLICED.
WE WOULD LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL
TO WORK WITH US AND DO THINGS
NOT IN OPPOSITION TO OUR
PEOPLE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT THREE ARE ADAM, ARIE,
NAQUITA.
ADAM AND ARIE IT SAYS YOU ARE
NOT PRESENT.
GOOD MORNING NAQUITA.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM CALLING AS PART OF THE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET AND WANTED TO
SAY LAST WEEK WE WERE DEEPLY
DISAPPOINTED BY THE VOTE
REGARDING SPD HIRING FREEZE.
YOU HAVE A CHANCE THIS MORNING
TO DO SOMETHING.
IN JULY MANY OF YOU COMMITTED
TO CUTTING THE BUDGET BY 50%
AND INVEST IN BLACK
COMMUNITIES.
SOME OF YOU COMMITTED NOT TO
MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES.
LAST WEEK'S VOTE DID NOT MOVE
US FORWARD WITH THE HIRING
FREEZE.
PLEASE VOTE YES ON MOSQUEDA'S
AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT THREE ARE DAVID -- I THINK
WE HAVE HEARD FROM DAVID.
DAVID, RACHEL, FATIMA.
DID WE HEAR FROM DAVID ALREADY?
IF NOT, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
APOLOGIES. WE DON'T HAVE DAVID.
NEXT WOULD BE RACHEL.
ARE YOU WITH US?
WE'LL GIVE IT A QUICK SECOND.
HOW ABOUT RACHEL?
IS RACHEL AVAILABLE?
>> DAVID SHOULD BE ON THE LINE.
>> DAVID, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
IF SO, PUSH STAR 6 ONE MORE
TIME.
WE MAY HAVE SOME TECHNICAL
DIFFICULTIES.
DAVID YOU HAVE CALLED BEFORE.
IT MIGHT BE A CONNECTION ISSUE
TODAY.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IF YOU
ARE STILL THERE.
LET'S GO TO RACHEL AND COME
BACK TO DAVID.
>> THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS RACHEL AND I AM
CALLING NOT JUST AS A LIFE LONG
RESIDENT OF SEATTLE BUT AS A
REPRESENTATIVE OF A LOCAL
NONPROFIT.
WE ADVOCATE FOR THE RIGHTS OF
ALL BEINGS, RIGHT TO CHOOSE TO
BE FREE FROM OPPRESSION AND
EXPLOITATION.
WE SUPPORT THE SOLIDARITY
BUDGET.
I AM CALLING TO ASK CITY
COUNCIL TO DIVEST FROM POLICE
AND INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY.
INVEST IN BLACK LED COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE
HEALTHY FOOD TO COMMUNITIES,
COMMUNITIES THAT NEED SUPPORT
TO PLANT GARDENS SO PEOPLE IN
ALL COMMUNITIES HAVE ABILITY TO
MAKE HEALTHIER FOOD CHOICES AND
CAN HAVE FOOD SOVEREIGNTY.
IT'S VITAL THAT THEY INVEST IN
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
UPLIFTING COMMUNITIES.
EVERYBODY LIKES TO EAT HEALTHY
FOOD.
THERE ARE BLACK LED
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
WONDERFUL IDEAS FOR MAKING THE
CITY A MORE EQUITABLE PLACE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IF WE HAVE DAVID, I WILL GO
BACK TO DAVID REAL QUICK.
AFTER DAVID WILL BE LEO, KATE,
NEIL ANDERSON IF FATIMA IS NOT
PRESENT.
GOOD MORNING DAVID.
I SEE YOU MUTED.
PUSH STAR 6 ONE MORE TIME.
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
DAVID, IT'S COMING ON MUTED.
DOUBLE CHECK ON YOUR END THAT
IT IS NOT MUTED ON YOUR PHONE.
SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS.
HI.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
SHOOT.
I CAN SEE YOU.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT STARTED.
STAR 6 ONE MORE TIME.
TRY ONE MORE TIME.
THERE WE GO.
HOW ABOUT NOW?
SORRY, DAVID.
LET'S GO TO LEAH.
WE'LL COME BACK TO DAVID.
>> GOOD MORNING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES, WE CAN.
THANKS.
>> HI.
THIS IS LEAH.
I AM CALLING ON YOU TO FOLLOW
THROUGH ON COMMITMENT TO DEFUND
SPD AND SHIFT FUNDS TO
COMMUNITY SERVICES LIKE THE
ONES PROPOSED.
I WAS DISAPPOINTED LAST WEEK
WHEN YOU REJECTED AMENDMENT TO
CUT SPD'S BUDGET FOR HIRING NEW
COPS.
I AM CALLING TO SUPPORT THE
AMENDMENT TO CUT 2 MILLION AS
ANOTHER TINY DOWN PAYMENT ON
THE ROAD TO 50% OR MORE.
AS A SURVIVOR, I WANT TO TELL
YOU POLICE DO NOT MAKE ME FEEL
SAFER EVEN FROM VIOLENT CRIME.
POLICE DO NOT PREVENT.
THEY JUST RESPOND TO IT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
KATIE, NEIL, AIDEN.
KATIE, GOOD MORNING.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> I CAN.
THANKS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM WITH DISTRICT 2 AS WELL AS
A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN
SEATTLE.
I AM OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL RIGHT
NOW WITH A MARCH.
MAKE SOME NOISE!
[ CHEERING AND APPLAUSE ] WE
WERE DISAPPOINTED WITH LAST
WEEK'S VOTE TO NOT DEFUND BY
THE 9 MILLION TO HIRE THE 114
OFFICERS AND WE WILL HOPE YOU
WILL CONTINUE THE WORK WITH THE
3 MILLION AND DO THE $17.3
MILLION TODAY AND INVEST THE
MONEY INTO BLACK COMMUNITIES
AND BLACK PEOPLE.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK
TO GET TO 100% BY NEXT BUDGET
VOTE BECAUSE 17.3% IS NOT
ENOUGH AS YOU KNOW.
WE'LL BE HERE EVERY DAY UNTIL
BLACK LIVES ARE LIBERATED!
>> THANK YOU.
AIDEN, CAROL.
BEFORE AIDEN, DAVID, CAN YOU
HEAR ME?
STILL SAYS YOU ARE MUTED.
GOOD MORNING, AIDEN.
>> I THOUGHT I WAS AFTER NEIL.
I DON'T WANT TO CUT THE LINE.
>> THANK YOU FOR ASKING.
NEIL IS LISTED AS NOT PRESENT.
THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.
>> THANK YOU.
I LIVE IN WALLING FORD, D6.
I SPEND TIME IN FORKS INCLUDING
WITH THE RECENT TRASH CLEAN UP
EFFORT, WHAT COUNCILMAN PAIGE
WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE WHILE IT
CAN BE DIFFICULT TO ASSOCIATE
YOURSELF WITH THINGS THAT SEEM
RADICAL NOW, IT IS NOT RADICAL
TO HAVE AN ELECTED OVERSIGHT
WORRIED THAT HAS FIRING POWERS
OVER POLICE.
IT IS NO THE RADICAL TO HAVE A
HIRING FREEZE ENTIRELY DURING A
RECESSION FROM POLICE.
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT RADICAL TO
HAVE A SMALL DECREASE TO AVOID
BUDGET CUTS DURING RECESSION.
MOST ARE DEMOCRATS AND THAT'S
IN THEORY SOMETHING DEMOCRATS
BELIEVE IN.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
REBECCA, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME?
>> I AM.
THANK YOU.
>> MY NAME IS REBECCA SMITH.
I AM A MEMBER OF DISTRICT 2. I
AM CALLING TO REITERATE MY
SUPPORT OF INCREASING AMOUNT
DEFUNDING SEATTLE POLICE TO AT
LEAST 50% AND TO EXPRESS
APPRECIATION WITH A LOT OF THE
STUFF YOU HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING.
I SAW THE 93 POLICE OFFICERS ON
THE DOCKET, ENCOURAGED ABOUT
THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE WE
SHOULD RECONSIDER A HIRING
MORATORIUM AS WE HAVE SEEN
PUBLIC SAFETY SURVEY AND DATA
THAT AREAS WITH LESS POLICE
PRESENCE TEND TO HAVE LESS FEAR
OF VIOLENCE AND LESS CRIME IN
GENERAL.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD THAT THE
POLICE ARE PERPETRATORS OF
VIOLENCE AND DON'T PROTECT
AGAINST AND CONTINUE TO
DISAMEND IN ORDER TO SUPPORT
THE COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU.
BRIAN CLARK, GOOD MORNING.
WE'LL DO A QUICKTIME CHECK.
FIVE MORE MINUTES, WE WILL GET
AS MANY PEOPLE IN AS POSSIBLE.
BRIAN.
>> HI.
MY NAME IS BRIAN.
THERE ARE INSTRUCTIONS POPPING
UP ON SIDEWALKS AND IT IS HOW
DIFFERENTLY YOU TREAT THEM.
RESTAURANTS ARE BUILDING
STRUCTURES SO THE RELATIVELY
WEALTHY PEOPLE CAN DINE.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS A MATTER
OF MONEY.
LAST WEEK THE COUNCIL VOTED TO
SPEND THE MILLIONS ON POLICE
INSTEAD OF HOUSING.
THE VOTE WAS A BETRAYAL OF YOUR
COMMITMENT.
YOU DIDN'T EVEN DISCUSS THE
ITEM ON TINY HOMES.
THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
LIVING OUTDOORS.
TEMPERATURES ARE DROPPING BELOW
40.
IF BLACK LIVES MATTER, PROVE
IT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
PETER, RACHEL, MELISSA.
GOOD MORNING, PETER.
>> HELLO.
I ALSO AM EXTREMELY
DISAPPOINTED IN THE DECISION
LAST THURSDAY.
I FIND IT INCREDIBLY
DISAPPOINTING BUT WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY WITH COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA'S AMENDMENT TO CUT
SPD'S HIRING BUDGET BY 2
MILLION AND INVEST IN COMMUNITY
ALTERNATIVES.
IT IS VITAL THAT DESPITE THE
VERY DISAPPOINTING ACTIONS ON
THURSDAY.
I AM ENCOURAGING PLEASE ALL
COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE YES FOR
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA'S
AMENDMENT.
IT'S IMPORTANT.
WE KNOW THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF
SPD AND IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT
TO REINVEST IN THE COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED AND MOST
VULNERABLE TO THE DAMAGES OF
THE SPD.
>> THANK YOU.
RACHEL, GOOD MORNING.
>> MY NAME IS RACHEL.
I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 3
CALLING IN SUPPORT OF PEOPLE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET.
WAS DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THE
VOTE TO HIRE MORE POLICE
OFFICERS NEXT YEAR DESPITE THE
COMMUNITY DEMANDING TO HAVE
LESS OF A POLICE PRESENCE.
PLEASE LISTEN TO EVERYONE
CALLING SAYING POLICE DO NOT
MAKE THEM FEEL SAFE.
WHAT MAKES THEM FEEL SAFE IS
HAVING A COMMUNITY THAT LOVES
AND SUPPORTS THEM, HAVING A
ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD, HAVING
ALL YOUR BASIC NEEDS MET SO YOU
ARE NOT ANXIOUS ABOUT WHAT
BILLS TO PAY THIS MONTH.
THE FUNDING NEEDS TO COME FROM
OUR OVERLY FUNDED POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
CRIMES HAVE GONE UP THIS YEAR
DESPITE THE HIGH FUNDED POLICE
DEPARTMENT BECAUSE POLICE DO
NOT PREVENT VIOLENCE.
THEY SHOW UP AFTER OR DIRECTLY
CONTRIBUTE TO THE VIOLENCE.
PEOPLE CALLING IN HAVE BEEN
WORKING HARD TO FILL GAPS IN
CARE LEFT BY OUR CITY
GOVERNMENT.
>> THANK YOU.
MELISSA, COULD YOU UNMUTE
YOURSELF ALONG WITH JULIA AND
BJ.
MELISSA, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THE
THOUGHT THAT THE SAFEST
COMMUNITIES DO NOT HAVE THE
MOST COPS.
THEY HAVE THE MOST RESOURCES.
PLEASE DO WHAT YOU CAN TO LIVE
TO THE COMMITMENT YOU MADE THIS
SUMMER TO KURT THE POLICE
BUDGET.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY YOU
DID THAT THIS SUMMER?
I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BE
CURIOUS ABOUT WHY YOU COMMITTED
TO THAT.
CONNECT WITH THAT MOMENT THAT
YOU BELIEVED IN CUTTING THE
POLICE BUDGET.
ARE YOU CONCERNED WITH SAVING
LIVES OR SAVING MONEY?
THANK YOU.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JULIA, GOOD MORNING.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE STILL
MUTED.
AFTER JULIA WILL BE BJ,
MAXWELL.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM A RESIDENT OF D6 AND
MEMBER OF 350 SEATTLE.
I AM CALLING TO EXPRESS
DISAPPOINTMENT OF THE LACK OF
OF ADOPTION OF SPD'S HIRING
BUDGET FREEZE LAST WEEK.
BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL
TO PLEASE VOTE YES FOR
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA'S
AMENDMENT.
WE DO NOT NEED MORE COPS IN
SEATTLE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> BJ, GOOD MORNING.
HI.
GOOD MORNING.
I AM A D6 RESIDENT AND SMALL
BUSINESS OWNER.
FOR THE SOLIDARITY BUDGET I WAS
DISAPPOINTED IN YOUR VOTE TO
HIRE MORE SPD OFFICERS.
I SUPPORT AMENDMENT TO TRANSFER
$2 MILLION.
WE SHOULDN'T BE HIRING MORE
COPS WEILL REDUCING
RESPONSIBILITIES.
IT'S PAYING MORE FOR LESS.
I UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT DEFUNDING
BECAUSE THEY SEE SOME FAILINGS
OF OUR CURRENT PUBLIC SAFETY
SYSTEM.
THE FAILINGS ARE FAILINGS,
REASONS TO DEFUND AND REBUILD A
NEW SYSTEM.
FAILINGS IN THE CURRENT ARE NOT
REASONS TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE
CURRENT SYSTEM AND HIRE MORE
úPOLICE.
THANK YOU.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
MAXWELL, YOU ARE NEXT.
HI MAXWELL.
>> MAXWELL, DISTRICT 3 ACTIVIST
WITH SEATTLE EVERY DAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE
HOT ISSUE OF SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND 2021 BUDGET AND
MOVING FORWARD GOING BACK TO
SOMETHING MORE GENERAL.
20% IS NOT ENOUGH.
THE COMMUNITY MADE THEMSELVES
CLEAR INCLUDING MY PROTEST
GROUP SEATTLE EVERY DAY MARCH.
WE WANT AT MINIMUM A 50%
REDUCTION.
WHY?
WE HAVE PEOPLE BEING VICTIMIZED
BY THE POLICE.
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE
MURDERING PEOPLE.
THEY HAVE TOO MANY THAT DO NOT
BELONG TO PEOPLE WITH GUNS AND
PEOPLE ARE DYING AND WILL
CONTINUE TO DIE IF WE DON'T DO
SOMETHING BIG AND DO SOMETHING
NOW.
I CALL FOR AT MINIMUM 50%
BUDGET REDUCTION WITH THAT
MONEY USED FOR PROJECTS THAT
WILL HELP PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY
RATHER THAN THROWING IT AT
PEOPLE WITH GUNS TO SHOOT THE
PROBLEM UNTIL IT STOPS.
FUNDING PEOPLE WHO KILL PEOPLE
MAKES YOU AN ACCOMPLICE TO
MURDER.
>> THANK YOU.
MONSTRI, GOOD MORNING.
>> I AM FROM DISTRICT 7,
CALLING ON ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL
TO DEFUND SPD FOR AT LEAST 50%
LIKE THE MAJORITY OF YOU
COMMITTED TO DO THIS SUMMER.
THIS FEELS LIKE A SLAP IN THE
FACE.
ON NOVEMBER 4SPD PUT A
PROTESTER IN SERIOUS CONDITION
AND LEFT THEIR BODY ON THE
GROUND FOR 15 MINUTES WHILE
THEY USED FORCE AGAINST
CONCERNED CITIZENS.
LEWIS, SHAME ON YOU FOR VOTING
FOR MORE COPS AND ENABLING THIS
BEHAVIOR.
THEY DON'T NEED THE NEW
OFFICERS.
GIVE IT BACK TO PROGRAMS THAT
WILL HELP US.
KNOW THAT 17% IS ENOUGH.
WE DEMAND 50 AND WILL REMEMBER
THAT YOU IGNORED US COME THE
NEXT ELECTION.
>> NEXT IS COCOA AND THEN WE
ARE DONE.
ALL RIGHT.
I THINK WE ARE DONE WITH PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I DO NOT SEE COCOA POPPING UP.
ONE MORE SECOND.
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY
FOR DIALING IN TODAY.
THAT DOES CONCLUDE PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY FOR
DIALING IN.
I THINK WE WENT ABOUT FIVE
MINUTES OVER.
LET'S GET INTO ITEMS OF
BUSINESS.
WE HAVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE.
MADAM CLERK WILL YOU PROCEED
WITH READING INTO THE RECORD
ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER, I BELIEVE
CENTRAL STAFF WILL BE READING
EACH ITEM INTO THE RECORD AND
PROVIDING BRIEF REMARKS.
WOULD YOU STILL LIKE ME TO READ
EACH?
>> THAT WORKS IF IT'S OKAY WITH
YOU MADAM CLERK.
>> THAT WORKS.
THANK YOU.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE SEE YOU ON THERE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU AND ALL OF
YOUR TEAM MEMBERS FOR ALL OF
YOUR HARD WORK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE, CENTRAL
STAFF WILL DESCRIBE EACH
SEPARATELY AND THEN WE ARE
GOING TO MOVE EACH ITEM FOR
INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE LAST
VOTE IN COMMITTEE AND THEN WE
GO TO FULL COUNCIL.
THIS IS LARGELY TECHNICAL
CHANGES, ITEMS THAT ARE JUST
BASICALLY CLEAN UP AND WE ARE
LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
CENTRAL STAFF TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING AND GET THROUGH
THIS MORNING'S MEETING.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE
MEMBERS.
WE ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE TO MOVE
YOU THROUGH THE FINAL STEP IN
THE BUDGET PROCESS AS THE CHAIR
DESCRIBED.
THERE ARE FIVE COUNCIL BUDGET
ACTIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE'S
CONSIDERATION.
IN PREPARATION FOR THE FINAL
ACTIONS YOU WILL TAKE TO ADOPT
THE 2021 BUDGET.
THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA
SPONSORED BY CHAIR MOSQUEDA
WOULD RESEND THE ACTION THAT
ADDS TO THE EMERGENCY FUND AND
ADOPT THE AMENDMENT.
INCLUDED IS CORRECTING
TRANSACTIONS LINE WHICH IS THE
TECHNICAL CORRECTION TO ENSURE
THAT THE WAY THAT MONEY IS
MOVING OUT OF FINANCE GENERAL
AND INTO THE EMERGENCY FUND IS
CORRECT AND ADDS $24,000 TO
OPCD'S BUDGET TO FULLY RESTORE
FUNDING FOR THE POSITION THAT
WAS INCLUDED IN A PREVIOUS
COUNCIL BUDGET ACTION ADOPTED
BY THIS COMMITTEE THAT RESTORED
FUNDING FOR POSITIONS PROPOSED
FOR BUDGETARY LAYOFF THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF
CBSFG-006-B-3002.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
APPROVE CBAFG-006-B-002.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS
WORK.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE CLEAN UP
YOU HAVE DONE TO BE SURE THAT
THIS IS TRULY BALANCED.
LET'S DO THIS.
MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU CALL ROLE
FOR APPROVAL.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> SAWANT.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> YES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> JUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> YES.
>> NINE IN FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOTION CARRIES AND CBA IS
APPROVED.
ONE OUT OF FIVE.
LET'S KEEP GOING.
ITEM NUMBER TWO.
>> S DOT 901A3 PRESENTS
PREVIOUS ACTION TO ADDRESS $9
MILLION FOR SCHOOL SAFETY
TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN
IMPROVEMENT FUND AND READOPTS
ADDRESSING THE SHORTFALL.
PREVIOUS VERSION HAD AN ERROR
IN TRANSACTION LINES THAT
NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED IN THE
BUDGET SYSTEM.
AGAIN THIS AMENDMENT IS
TECHNICAL IN NATURE AND WOULD
JUST READOPT ACTION PREVIOUSLY
APPROVED BY THIS COMMITTEE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF CBAS DOT 901-
A-003.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
SEEING NONE.
OKAY.
MADAM CLERK, I THINK THAT'S IT.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL ROLE ON
APPROVAL OF CBAS DOT 901A3003.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> SAWANT.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> YES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> JUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> YES.
>> NINE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOTION CARRIES AND CBA IS
APPROVED.
ITEM NUMBER THREE.
>> I WILL TAKE OVER.
THIS IS SPD025B002.
I INTRODUCE MYSELF, GREG DOS,
CENTRAL STAFF.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS NOT A
TECHNICAL ITEM.
THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WOULD
CHANGE FUNDING FOR SPD'S HIRING
PLAN.
SHALL I DESCRIBE IT,
COUNCILMEMBER, CHAIR MOSQUEDA
AND I HAVE NEW INFORMATION THAT
HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED DURING
COUNCIL BUDGET SESSION THAT I
MIGHT ADD AT THE CHAIR'S
PLEASURE.
>> SURE.
THANKS SO MUCH.
>> OKAY.
THIS CBA WOULD REDUCE 2 MILLION
IN SALARY FUNDING FOR SWORN
OFFICERS AND REDUCE SPD'S
ANNUAL AVERAGE FUNDED FTE TO
1,343.
THIS ASSUMES THERE WILL BE
EQUAL NUMBER OF HIRES AND
SEPARATIONS, ONE 14 HIRES AND
ONE 14 SEPARATIONS IN 2021
BECAUSE RECENT TRENDS AND LEAD
TO BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE
HIGHER THAN PROJECTED IN SPD
STAFFING PLAN.
AS YOU WILL RECALL SPD STAFFING
PLAN THAT WAS TRANSMITTED IN
OCTOBER INDICATED THERE WOULD
BE 114 HIRES BUT THERE WOULD
ONLY BE 89 SEPARATIONS.
SO THIS PARTICULAR CBA WOULD
ASSUME SEPARATIONS WOULD
INCREASE FROM 89 TO 114.
THEN THE CUT OF $2 MILLION TO
ACCOUNT FOR THE SEPARATIONS
WOULD LEAVE THE DEPARTMENT WITH
1343 FUNDED FDE.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT'S
COME UP OVER THE WEEKEND THAT
MEMBERS HAVE NOT HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR DURING THE
BUDGET PROCESS IS THAT IN
OCTOBER, THERE WERE 16
ADDITIONAL SEPARATIONS FROM THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WITH THE TRENDS IN SEPTEMBER
AND OCTOBER, THAT WOULD
CERTAINLY SEEM TO INDICATE
SPD'S ATTRITION IS HIGHER THAN
EXPECTED IN 2020 AND COULD BE
HIGHER THAN EXPECTED IN 2021.
WHAT I WOULD NOTE IS THAT THE
ADDITIONAL ATTRITION IN 2020 IS
16 OFFICERS AND THOSE 16
OFFICERS, THEY WON'T NEED TO BE
PAID IN 2021 BECAUSE THEY WON'T
BE THERE.
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE
THERE, THAT WILL LOWER THE NEED
FOR SALARY FOR SPD BY ABOUT 2.3
MILLION AND WILL MEAN THAT THE
SPD WILL ONLY REACH IF HIRING
IS ACCORDING TO PLAN.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT THIS PARTICULAR ACTION
CUTS 2 MILLION.
IT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY
MEMORIALIZE A HIRING PLAN
NUMBER THAT WOULD ASSUME 114
ATTRITIONS OR WOULD ASSUME 114
HIRES.
IT JUST CUTS 2 MILLION IN
SALARY FUNDING FOR SPD.
AS I INDICATED PRIOR BASICALLY
THAT AMOUNT IS NO LONGER GOING
TO BE NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE
ADDITIONAL ATTRITION IN 2020.
THAT SAID, EXECUTIVE HAS
PROVIDED A RESPONSE THAT
INDICATES THAT THEY BELIEVE
THAT THERE IS A GOOD
POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WOULD
HIREMORE THAN 114.
IF THEY HIRED MORE THAN 114,
THEN THIS FUNDING THAT WOULD BE
REDUCED WOULD BE NEEDED FOR
THAT ADDITIONAL HIRING.
I HAVE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL
MEMBERS SOME HISTORY ABOUT
SPD'S HIRING OVER THE LAST
SEVEN YEARS.
THEY HAVE NOT REACHED 114 IN
THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AND THE
HIGHEST I BELIEVE THEY'VE GONE
IS 108.
ANOTHER THING EXECUTIVE NOTES
THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS IF
THE FUNDING IS TAKEN HERE, THAT
DOES REDUCE EXECUTIVE'S ABILITY
TO USE OVER TIME TO BACK FILL
FOR PATROL LOSSES AND MIGHT
MEAN THEY HAVE TO TRANSFER INTO
911 RESPONSE OFFICERS FROM
OTHER UNITS FROM INVESTIGATIVE
OR SPECIALITY UNITS.
FINALLY, THAT THERE WOULD BE
SEPARATION PAY THAT WOULD BE
NEEDED TO BE GIVEN TO
ADDITIONAL OFFICERS WHO ARE
LEAVING AND THAT AMOUNT WOULD
NOT BE PRESENT IN THEIR BUDGET.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT
FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
THEY DO NOT AGREE, THE
EXECUTIVE, WITH THE 114
SEPARATION ASSUMPTION.
THEY DO AGREE THAT THE
SEPARATIONS THIS YEAR WOULD
MEAN THAT THERE WOULD BE A NEED
TO REVISE SEPARATION ASSUMPTION
IN THE 2021 STAFFING PLAN.
BUT THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED AND
CANNOT HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND
THIS AFTERNOON.
AS I NOTE BEFORE, THE STAFFING
PLAN IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS
MEMORIALIZED IN ANY
LEGISLATION.
COUNCIL ONLY HAS CONTROL OVER
THE FUNDING THAT GOES TO SPD.
WITH THAT AS CONTEXT, I WOULD
OFFER TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
THAT MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE.
>> LET'S PUT THIS IN FRONT OF
US.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF CB
SSPD025B001.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> EXCUSE ME.
I BELIEVE IT IS 002.
>> I AM SORRY. S
PD25B002.
IS THERE A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THAT.
THIS IS CORRECTIVE TECHNICAL
AMENDMENT IN NATURE BASED ON
REVISED ATTRITION RATES WE
RECEIVED FRIDAY.
IT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE
INFORMING OUR BUDGET HERE BASED
ON UPDATED ATTRITION NUMBERS
AND ASSUMPTIONS WE HAVE SEEN
FROM THE EXPERIENCED OCTOBER
NUMBERS.
THIS AMENDMENT IS TECHNICAL IN
NATURE IN THAT IT REFLECTS NEW
ASSUMED RATE OF ATTRITION.
IT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY
MEMORIALIZE ANY HIRING
COMMITMENTS AND WE CAN ALWAYS
MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS POTENTIAL
NEED IF AND WHEN THEY ARRIVE.
WE ARE SIMPLY REFLECTING THERE
IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE SEEN
THE SAME LEVEL OF ATTRITION
ANTICIPATED AT THE VERY
BEGINNING OF THIS BUDGET CYCLE.
COLLEAGUES, THIS IS AN ATTEMPT
TO MAKE SURE OUR BUDGET IS
REFLECTIVE OF THE NUMBERS.
>> ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
>> SEEING NONE, CALL ROLE ON
APPROVAL.
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD COUNCILMAN
PEDERSEN.
>> SORRY.
I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
MAY I?
>> GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, GREG, FOR TRYING TO
PAINT THE FULL PICTURE OF THIS.
I HEARD YOU SAY AT THE
BEGINNING IT IS NOT A TECHNICAL
AMENDMENT.
I JUST WANT TO -- I GUESS I
JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE
IMPACT OF THIS.
I KNOW LAST WEEK WE HAD
ACHIEVED SORT OF A BALLOT
FUNDING FOR SPD AND THEN THIS
IS COMING IN PRETTY LATE IN THE
PROCESS.
SO I JUST WANT TO HAVE A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
IT APPEARS THAT IT'S NOT
REFLECTED IN THE STAFFING PLAN.
I KNOW WE HAD RELIED ON THAT,
ON THE STAFFING PLAN A BIT LAST
WEEK WHEREAS SPD IS NOW TELLING
US THAT THEY DON'T AGREE WITH
THE NUMBER.
THEY THINK THEY MAYBE CAN HIRE
MORE THAN 114 NEXT YEAR.
IS IT TRUE -- THEY ALSO MIGHT
NEED FUNDING FOR OVER TIME IF
THEY WERE TO HAVE TO FILL IN
PATROL SHIFTS.
THAT'S A QUESTION FOR GREG.
>> I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT
IS YES, TO ALL THE THINGS YOU
SAID.
THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN HIRE
MORE THAN 114 AND SO THEY WOULD
LIKE TO RETAIN THE FUNDING TO
LEAVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO
DO THAT.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN
FUNDING TO USE IT FOR OVER TIME
TO BACK FILL PATROL LOSSES.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN
FUNDING FOR SEPARATION PAY.
I THINK ALL THE THINGS ARE %
TRUE.
IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT THE
STAFFING PLAN AS IT IS
CURRENTLY PRESENTED TO THE
COUNCIL IN OCTOBER, THEY WOULD
NOT REACH THE FUNDED FTE OF
1343 GIVEN THE NEWEST
SEPARATIONS, THEY WOULD NOT
REACH THAT LEVEL UNLESS THEY
WERE ABLE TO HIRE MORE.
SO THOSE ARE I THINK ALL TRUE.
>> MADAM CHAIR.
>> WELCOME INTERIM DIRECTOR.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS IS ALL VERY LATE BREAKING
NEWS AS YOU HEARD FROM GREG AND
FROM THE BUDGET CHAIR, UPDATED
INFORMATION ABOUT SEPARATIONS
IN OCTOBER CAME TO US LATE ON
FRIDAY AFTERNOON OR EVEN IN THE
EVENING.
I DON'T RECALL WHICH.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO
UNDERSTAND AND HAD SOME BACK
AND FORTH WITH CBO AND
EXECUTIVE GENERAL ABOUT
IMPLICATIONS OF THE AMENDMENT
WHICH YOU ARE NOW DISCUSSING.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT CONTEXT
TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE
EXECUTIVE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO
PROVIDE US WITH FEEDBACK THEY
BELIEVED THEY COULD BE HIRING
SPD OFFICERS IN 2021.
THEY DID NOT AVAIL THEMSELVES
OF THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE WERE
CONSIDERING AND COUNCIL BUDGET
COMMITTEE TOOK ACTION ON
SEPARATE BUDGET ACTION
SPD009A003, THAT ACTION CUT
$6.1 MILLION OUT OF SPD'S
BUDGET ON ESSENTIALLY THE SAME
THEORY THAT THERE WERE MORE
SEPARATIONS THAN HIRING PLAN
ANTICIPATED IN 2020 AND THAT
SPD THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE ABLE
TO SPEND $6.1 MILLION ON
SALARIES IN 2021 FOR OFFICERS
WHO ARE NOT WITH THE CITY ANY
LONGER.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT
WHILE GREG IS ABSOLUTELY
CORRECT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED
AS RECENTLY AS EARLY THIS
MORNING A RESPONSE THAT SAYS
IT'S POSSIBLE THEY CAN HIRE
MORE THAN 114 NEW OFFICERS.
THAT IS NOT INFORMATION WHICH
WE HAD PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED
ABOUT ANOTHER BUDGET ACTION
WHICH CUT $6.1 MILLION OUT OF
SPD'S BUDGET ON THE SAME THEORY
THAT THE BUDGET ACTION THAT YOU
ARE NOT CONSIDERING
INCORPORATES.
I JUST PROVIDE THAT CONTEXT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, INTERIM
DIRECTOR.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
ON THIS QUESTION FOR GREG IN
RESPONSE TO AN E-MAIL HE SENT
OVER THE WEEKEND, HOPEFULLY
ADDRESSING THE CONCERN FROM
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN ABOUT
FUNDS TO ADDRESS COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH EXPENDED OVER
TIME.
THE E-MAIL I RECEIVED SAYS NOW
THAT THE PLAN CAN ONLY REACH
1,341 FTEs, THE COUNCIL COULD
EXPAND SPD009A3 TO INCLUDE
ANOTHER 2.3 MILLION, ROUGH
ESTIMATE ...
KEEP IN MIND THAT THE
ADDITIONAL 2.3 MILLION CUT CAN
TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY TO USE
OVER TIME TO BACK FILL FOR
PATROL LOSSES AND EXACERBATE
SITUATION WHERE THE CHIEF IS
HAVING TO TRANSFER INTO PATROL
OFFICERS WORKING IN
INVESTIGATIVE AND SPECIALITY
UNITS.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS THAT 2.3
MILLION IS THERE STILL FOR THE
PURPOSE?
I AM HAVING A HARD TIME
CONCEPTUALIZING HOW WE ARE NOT
DOUBLE COUNTING WITH THE
COUNCILMEMBER'S AMENDMENT BUT
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT
YOU WRITE HERE, IT IS NOT AND
THERE IS STILL THE $2.3 MILLION
CUSHION.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I THINK THAT'S TRUE IF THE
ASSUMPTION OF THE AMENDMENT OF
114 SEPARATIONS PANS OUT.
YES, THERE WOULD BE IN ADDITION
TO THE $2 MILLION THAT IS CUT
BY COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA'S
AMENDMENT, ANOTHER 2.3 MILLION
THAT'S AFFECTED BY ADDITIONAL
SEPARATIONS THAT HAPPENED IN
OCTOBER.
>> AS A FOLLOW UP, ONE OF THE
REASONS WHY I HAVE BEEN FEELING
THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OR BUDGET
CHAIR MOSQUEDA'S ACTION IS NOT
PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT IS IN
KEEPING WITH BUDGET ACTIONS
THAT WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN
WHICH IS BASICALLY REMOVING
FROM THE BUDGET FUNDS THAT
CANNOT BE SPENT UNDER THE
DEPARTMENT'S HIRING PLAN
ASSUMPTIONS AND THAT THIS IS IN
ESSENCE DOING NOW WHAT COUNCIL
PRESIDENT GONZALEZ WAS SAYING
WE WOULD DO LATER WITH HER
PROVISO THAT BASICALLY
COMMITTED TO SCOOPING FUNDS
FROM GREATER THAN ANTICIPATED
ATTRITIONS OR SEPARATIONS IN
2021.
WE ARE DOING NOW WHAT WE WERE
PLANNING ON DOING LATER.
I THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY THE PART
THAT'S HANGING ME UP IS HOW I
AM COUNTING THE 16 ADDITIONAL
ATTRITIONS WE HAVE JUST LEARNED
ABOUT OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WAS
PROJECTED FOR OCTOBER.
SO IF I AM COUNTING THEM AS
PART OF THIS BUDGET ACTION, IF
I AM SAYING CHAIR MOSQUEDA'S
ASSUMPTIONS ARE THERE WILL BE
25 MORE ATTRITIONS THAN
ANTICIPATED BUT WE ALREADY HAVE
16 JUST IN OCTOBER, SO THIS
PROJECTION THAT WE ARE GOING TO
HAVE MORE ATTRITIONS THAN
ANTICIPATED LOOKS PRETTY
CONFIRMED BECAUSE WE ARE 16 OF
25 ALREADY THERE.
THAT MEANS WE ONLY NEED NINE
MORE ATTRITIONS THAN
ANTICIPATED FOR MONTHS OF
NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, AND ALL OF
THE 12 MONTHS OF 2021.
WHEN I CONSIDER THAT AS IT
RELATES TO THIS AMENDMENT, HOW
DO THE 16 ADDITIONAL ATTRITIONS
RELATE TO THE 2.3 MILLION IN
THE 2020 BUDGET?
AM I DOUBLE COUNTING THEM?
THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT HERE.
>> WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THIS, IF
THE 16 ADDITIONAL ATTRITION, 16
ADDITIONAL SEPARATIONS IN 2020
ARE ANNUALIZED IN 2021 MEANING
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE 16
OFFICERS IN 2021, THAT REDUCES
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE
DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO AFFECT
STAFFING PLAN BY $2.3 MILLION.
THAT HAPPENS IRRESPECTIVE OF OF
WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES.
THIS AMENDMENT OBVIOUSLY
REDUCES BY $2 MILLION, NOT
QUITE AS MUCH AS THE ACTUAL
COSTAE LEAVE ASIAN THAT THE
DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE BECAUSE OF
THE 16.
I WOULD SAY IF NOTHING CHANGES
THIS AMENDMENT TAKES AWAY MONEY
THAT IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT
LESS THAN WHAT THE DEPARTMENT
WILL HAVE COST SAVINGS FOR THE
16 THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE
PAID IN 2021.
SEPARATELY, OVER AND ABOVE, IF
THERE ARE ACTUALLY 114
ATTRITION IN 2021, THERE WILL
BE MORE MONEY.
THERE WILL BE $2 MILLION MORE.
SO IF YOU TAKE THOSE TWO THINGS
TOGETHER, THERE IS ABOUT $4.3
MILLION OF SAVINGS THAT THE
DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE, NUMBER 1
FROM THE 16 NOT PAID NEXT YEAR
AND, NUMBER 2, FROM THE GREATER
ATTRITION THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
COUNCIL IS ONLY TAKING WITH
THIS ACTION, 2 MILLION.
SO TRYING NOT TO CONFLICT THE
ACTIONS, COUNCIL IS TAKING ...
úTO SOME EXTENT THERE IS ALREAD
GREATER SEPARATION.
THAT WILL LEAVE ABOUT 2.3
MILLION IN SAVINGS.
JUST FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE
AND AGAIN NOTING THAT THE
STAFFING PLAN IS NOT ADOPTED
THIS AMENDMENT WILL NOT TAKE
MORE MONEY THAN THE DEPARTMENT
WILL ALREADY BE SAVING BECAUSE
OF THE 16 MORE THAT HAVE LEFT
IN OCTOBER.
IS THAT CLEAR?
I WILL LOOK TO MY COLLEAGUE TO
TELL IF THERE IS ANY CONTEXT HE
CAN PROVIDE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NODDING HEADS, SO THAT'S A
GOOD SIGN.
>> THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE TO ME
AS WELL.
I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN THINKING
ABOUT THIS AS TWO EXPLANATIONS
FOR HOW TO COVER THE ROUGHLY $2
MILLION.
IT'S EITHER THE CASE THAT YOU
WANT TO COUNT ON THE
SEPARATIONS THAT PASSED IN
OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR BEING
ANNUALIZED IN 2021 OR WANT TO
ADJUST UP WORDS IN 2021, NUMBER
OF SEPARATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL
WANTS TO BASE ITS BUDGET UPON.
THAT SECONDARY CONSIDERATION IS
A DEPARTURE, A RATIONALE
REASONABLE RESPONSIBLE RESPONSE
TO THE ACTIONS WE HAVE SEEN IN
2020.
BUT IT IS A DEPARTURE FROM
SPD'S STAFFING PLAN BECAUSE IT
INCREASES FROM WHAT SPD HAS
OTHERWISE BEEN FORECASTING,
NUMBER OF SEPARATIONS FROM 89
TO 114.
YOU COULD THINK OF IT AS
ADDITIVE BUT IT WOULD BE MORE
CONSERVATIVE IF YOU WILL TO
THINK OF IT AS ALTERNATE
EXPLANATION FOR HOW TO
RATIONALE EYES CUTTING $2
MILLION ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM
SPD'S BUDGET.
I WOULD NOTE THAT SPD ALSO
INTRODUCED ANOTHER POTENTIAL
DEPARTURE FROM THEIR STAFFING
PLAN AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.
WE HAD HERETOFORE BEEN ASSUMING
THAT 114 WAS THE CEILING FOR
HOW MANY NEW HIRES COULD HAPPEN
IN '21.
THEY ARE NOW SAYING THAT 114
MAY NOT BE THE TRUE CEILING.
THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A
HIGHER THAN THAT NUMBER AND
NUMBER OF NEW EYES.
IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN THE
HIRING STAFFING PLAN IS ALL UP
FOR GRABS IF YOU WILL.
>> THANK YOU.
I WANT TO LIFT UP COMPLEMENTARY
ASPECTS WITH GONZALEZ'S EARLIER
AMENDMENTS TO CAPTURE COST
SAVINGS FROM KNOWN VACANCIES
AND APPRECIATE THAT THAT HAS
BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE BUDGET,
APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION THAT
THERE IS ALWAYS THE ABILITY TO
ADDRESS ADDITIONAL NEEDS THEY
COME UP WITH.
THERE IS A BUFFER HERE AND
THERE WILL BE ONGOING
CONVERSATION.
I KNOW ABOUT THIS AND AS WE GO
INTO NEXT YEAR, GIVEN VARIOUS
PROVISOS IN PLACE SO WE CAN GET
GOOD REPORTING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COLLEAGUES.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> THANK YOU.
A QUICK QUESTION AND THEN I
MIGHT WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS
BEFORE WE TAKE A FINAL VOTE
HERE.
BUT I WANT TO ALLOW
CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE BEFORE
DOING SO.
GREG AND OR DAN.
ANOTHER MECHANISM IS IN
ADDITION TO THE $6.1 MILLION
REDUCTION TO SPD'S BUDGET TO
REFLECT MODULATION IF YOU WILL
OF THEIR PROPOSED HIRING PLAN,
THERE IS ALSO A 5 MILLION-
DOLLAR PROVISO BASED ON
EXPECTATION THAT ATTRITION MAY
BE HIGHER THAN WHAT'S
FORECASTED BY THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IF
ANY IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN
THE $5 MILLION PROVISO AND THIS
BUDGET ACTION THAT'S BEING
PROPOSED BY CHAIR MOSQUEDA?
>> I WILL TAKE A SHOT AT THAT.
I THINK THE EASIEST WAY TO
THINK ABOUT THEM IS THEY ARE
NOT RELATED.
EASIEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT
IS THE CHAIR'S AMENDMENT
ASSUMES 114 ADDITIONAL HIRES
AND THAT WOULD NET SAVINGS OF
$2 MILLION AND THAT THE 16 THAT
LEFT IN IN OCTOBER WOULD NET
ANOTHER 2.3 MILLION.
TALKING ABOUT THE 16 THAT LEFT
IN OCTOBER THAT WOULD NET 2.3
MILLION IN SALARY SAVINGS, THAT
MONEY WOULD BE HELD BY YOUR
PROVISO COUNCILMEMBER GONZALO
AND THAT MONEY WOULD BE
AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL TO
REPROGRAM OR LET SPD KEEP FOR
OVER TIME OR FOR SEPARATION PAY
OR FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT
COME UP.
IF IT IS THE CASE THAT 114
SEPARATIONS DO NOT OCCUR, THEN
THAT MONEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE
TO GIVE BACK TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT FOR ANY ADDITIONAL
COSTS THAT THEY MIGHT INCUR.
BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HELD BY
YOUR PROVISO NEXT YEAR.
THE PROVISO WAS INTENDED TO
HOLD FUNDING FROM
MISCALCULATIONS WITH THE
STAFFING PLAN IN 2021 BUT IT
COULD CERTAINLY GRAB THIS 2.3
MILLION FROM THE 16 OFFICERS
THAT WON'T BE PAID IN 2021
BECAUSE THAT IS SALARY SAVINGS
AND THAT IS RELATED TO THE
STAFFING PLAN.
>> A QUICK FOLLOW UP, EVEN IF
WE -- SO THERE ARE ALREADY 16
POSITIONS.
THERE ARE POTENTIAL SALARY
SAVINGS ALREADY RELATED TO THE
$5 MILLION PROVISO IN 2021.
IS IT THE CASE THAT THE PROVISO
ALLOWS FOR THE COUNCIL TO
EVALUATE THOSE SALARY SAVINGS
AND EITHER CAPTURING SAVINGS OR
RELEASING THEM BACK TO THE
DEPARTMENT BASED ON REALTIME
OPERATIONAL NEEDS.
CAN YOU REMIND US OF HOW
RESTRICTIVE OR FLEXIBLE THE $5
MILLION PROVISO IS AS IT
RELATES TO THIS LAST MINUTE
ISSUE THAT THE EXECUTIVE IS
FLAGGING THAT THEY MAY HAVE A
NEED FOR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS
BEYOND THE PROJECTED 114 FTEs.
>> I WILL THOUGH YOU HAVE DONE
A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
IT IS DESIGNED TO BE FLEXIBLE.
IT IS DESIGNED TO BE EVALUATED
ON A MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY BASIS
AND ADJUSTED FOR REAL SAVINGS
THAT COMES FROM STAFFING PLAN
OR ADJUSTED A DIFFERENT WAY IF
THERE IS NO SAVINGS FROM THE
STAFFING PLAN.
COUNCIL WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITY
AS WE MOVE THROUGH TIME TO LOOK
AT THE STAFFING PLAN, FIGURE
OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, ADJUST
THAT PROVIDES OH ACCORDINGLY.
IF EVERYTHING WENT ACCORDING TO
STAFFING PLAN AND WE
REACHEDDENT OF THE YEAR, THAT
WOULD BE TO BE ADJUSTED.
IT HAS BEEN A PLACE HOLDER FOR
THE COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO HOLD
AND POTENTIALLY REEVALUATE
SALARY SAVING FROM HIS
ATTRITION OR FROM NOT BEING
ABLE TO HIRE ENOUGH.
YES, IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE
FLEXIBLE.
IF IT GRABS 2.3 MILLION FROM
THE 16 OFFICERS THAT COULD NOT
BE PAID NEXT YEAR BECAUSE
THEY'VE LEFT THIS YEAR, THEN
THAT 2.3 MILLION, COUNCIL COULD
REEVALUATE NEXT YEAR TO
DETERMINE IF THEY NEED TO GIVE
IT BACK TO SPD FOR MORE HIRING
IF HIRING GOES IN EXCESS OR
LOOKS LIKE IT WILL GO IN EXCESS
OF 114.
HOPEFULLY THAT GETS AT
EVERYTHING YOU ARE ASKING.
>> IT DOES.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
THEN JUST REALLY -- I WILL END
MY QUESTIONS THERE BUT I MAY
WANT TO MAKE ADDITIONAL REMARKS
BEFORE THE ROLE IS CALLED.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN, DID I
SEE YOUR HAND UP?
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ I SEE YOU
AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU.
A QUICK FOLLOW UP.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS
BECAUSE THAT HELPS TO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL CONTEXT AND
POTENTIAL FLEXIBILITY.
SO I CAN SEE THE PROS AND CONS
OF THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT.
I AM GOING TO BE VOTING NO ON
THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT
BECAUSE IT IS LAST MINUTE AND
STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH
DIFFERENT QUESTIONS AND HEARING
DIFFERENT THINGS FROM THE
EXECUTIVE ON IT.
OUR CENTRAL STAFF IS DOING THE
BEST THEY CAN TO INTERPRET
THINGS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT GRAY AREA JUST GIVES ME
TREPIDATION WHEN THERE ARE SO
MANY CHANGES GOING ON AT ONCE.
I SUPPORT REINVESTING TENS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM SPD TO
OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
I AM HOPING THAT THE DONE ALSO
WHEN WE REVAMP POLICE UNION
CONTRACT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAVE MONEY
THERE INTED OF JUST REDUCING
NUMBER OF OFFICERS.
I WOULD RATHER SAVE IN HOW
THEIR PAY IS STRUCTURED AND
OVER TIME HOW THAT IS ALLOCATED
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTRACT
SAVING US MONEY INSTEAD OF JUST
TAKING MONEY AWAY BY OTHERRING
NUMBER OF OFFICERS UNTIL WE
HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
I UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE A
DEEPER STAFFING ANALYSIS DONE
NEXT YEAR.
WE'LL OBVIOUSLY HAVE A
COMMUNITY PARTICIPATORY
BUDGETING PROCESS.
THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE AS WELL.
MORE INFORMATION IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE NEXT YEAR I THINK WILL
BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ME.
RIGHT NOW I WILL VOTE NO ON
THIS ONE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
>> THANK YOU.
I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME
QUESTIONS I HAVE AND THANK
CENTRAL STAFF FOR ETING THIS TO
US AND BE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND
CANDID.
THIS LATE AMENDMENT IN THE LAST
72 HOURS, THE LATE BREAKING
NEWS THAT IN OCTOBER WE WILL
HAVE 16 ADDITIONAL ATTRITIONS,
I WANT TO BE CLEAR FROM WHAT WE
ARE HEARING AND NOT HAVE A
REPEAT FROM OVER SUMMER WHERE
PEOPLE WERE TAKING A PLEDGE
WITHOUT A PLAN.
LET ME ASK THIS
STRAIGHTFORWARDLY BECAUSE OF
THE E-MAILS WE GOT AND SOME
COMMENTS DURING PUBLIC COMMENT
AND HONEST IN OUR MESSAGE.
IS THIS A HIRING FREEZE?
>> NO.
THIS ISN'T A HIRING FREEZE.
I WOULD SAY THAT THIS DOES NOT
IMPACT THE DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY
TO HIRE.
I WOULD SAY THAT IF THE
DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO HIRE
MORE THAN 114, IT WOULD IMPACT
THEIR ABILITY TO GO ABOVE THEIR
PROJECTED NUMBERS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE
COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO EVALUATE
AS TO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO
REGARDING ANY SAVINGS THAT IS
AVAILABLE NOW FROM THE
ADDITIONAL ATTRITION.
SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
IT IS NOT A HIRING FREEZE.
I THINK ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE
IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT COULD
USE THIS FUNDING FOR OVER TIME
TO PAY OFFICERS SO THEY DON'T
HAVE TO TRANSFER
OFFICERS TO PATROL.
THAT IS SOMETHING THEY CAN LOOK
AT NEXT YEAR AS WORKING THROUGH
THE PROVISO TO ADJUST OR
RELEASE FROM THE SAVINGS FROM
SAY THE 23 OR 16 THAT LEFT IN
OCTOBER AND THAT SAVINGS WILL
BE AVAILABLE NEXT YEAR.
>> OKAY.
>> NOT A HIRING FREEZE.
>> TWO MORE TO FOLLOW UP.
AGAIN, SOME OF THIS MAY SEEM
SIMPLISTIC BUT I JUST DON'T
WANT PEOPLE TO GET THE WRONG
MESSAGE ABOUT WHAT WE ARE
DOING, THAT WE HAVE THIS
INFORMATION AND SOMEHOW WE FLIP-
FLOPPED.
I AM NOT HAPPY THAT IT CAME IN
LATE.
I THOUGHT WE WRAPPED UP
EVERYTHING THURSDAY.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
MESSAGING BACK AND FORTH FROM
EVERYWHERE ABOUT WHAT THIS
MEANS.
MY SECOND QUESTION IS IF IT'S
NOT A HIRING FREEZE AND WE KNOW
THAT, IS THIS A STATEMENT IF WE
WERE TO VOTE YES TODAY THAT THE
SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL IS VOTING
FOR NO NEW POLICE OFFICERS?
>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE
CASE ALTHOUGH I DO HAVE TO NOTE
THAT IF THE DEPARTMENT IS ..
AND THERE WOULD BE MONEY
AVAILABLE TO HANDLE THAT.
>> WOULD WE LEARN MORE OF THE
IMPACTS OF HOW THIS AFFECTS
TAKING POLICE OFFICERS ON
PARTICULAR SPECIALIZED UNITS
AND ASSIGNING THEM TO PATROL?
>> SAY IT AGAIN.
>> WE'VE HAD QUESTION THAT
COUNCIL IS IN CONTROL OF THE
FUNDING BUT NOT STAFFING.
JUMP IN IF I AM GETTING THIS
WRONG.
WHAT I AM GETTING AT IS THE
IMPACT OF WHAT -- IT SEEMS KIND
OF BACKWARDS.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY WE ARE
NOT GOING TO HIRE, THEN THAT
PUTS STRESS ON STAFFING ON THE
POLICE SIDE OF OKAY SO IF WE
ARE NOT GOING TO BE HIRING, WE
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO USE THE
OFFICERS WE HAVE NOW.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO USE
THEM, REASSIGN THEM TO PATROL
MAYBE OUT OF SPECIALITY UNITS.
THERE WILL BE NO OVER TIME.
THERE ARE ALL THE OTHER EFFECTS
WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING ALL
SUMMER AND ALL FALL.
I AM WONDERING ARE WE GOING TO
HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT
THAT?
CAN YOU TELL ME NOW BASED ON
YOUR CONVERSATIONS?
>> I CAN TELL YOU ON THE HIRING
SIDE THERE ARE FUNDS FOR THE
DEPARTMENT IT ACHIEVE THE
CURRENT PLAN OF 114.
>> OKAY.
>> IF THE DEPARTMENT COMES NEXT
YEAR AND SAYS WE THINK WE CAN
DO 130 AND HERE IS WHY, COUNCIL
WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE MORE
FUNDING FOR HIRING.
I DID SEND AN E-MAIL TO
COUNCILMEMBERS GIVING HISTORY
OF THE HIRING.
WE ARE IN UNPRECEDENTED TIMES.
THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A
GREATER NUMBER OF HIRES.
IT'S HARD TO SAY.
WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD US IS THEY
COULD DO 114 AND THIS DOES NOT
RESTRICT THEIR ABILITY TO DO
THAT.
I WOULD SAY IN TERMS OF USING
OVER TIME TO BACK FILL SO THEY
DON'T HAVE TO USE OFFICERS FROM
INVESTIGATIVE OR SPECIALITY
UNITS TAKING OF THIS MONEY OR
ANY MONEY FROM SPD WOULD REDUCE
THEIR ABILITY TO DO SO.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>> ALSO NOTING THAT ADDITIONAL
QUESTION YOU MENTIONED BEFORE
AS WELL.
>> I DON'T SEE ADDITIONAL
HANDS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE
COMMENTS, COUNCILMENT?
>> I THINK I SAW COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT AND I THINK
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ'S LINE OF
QUESTIONING WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
ON THE HIRING FREEZE QUESTION
IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
EXECUTIVE, AND I DID HAVE
OPPORTUNITY TO DIRECTLY CONNECT
WITH THE MAYOR YESTERDAY
EVENING, I THINK THERE IS
UNFORTUNATELY A LITTLE BIT OF
PERHAPS DEFINITIONAL STRUGGLE
THAT THERE IS QUESTION OF
HIRING FREEZE MEANING NOBODY
EVER GETS HIRED AGAIN WHETHER
FOR BACK FILLING PURPOSES OR
ABOVE AND BEYOND THE AMOUNT OF
FULL TIME EQUIVALENCE THAT WE
HAVE BUDGETED FOR.
SO I HEAR THE CONCERN FROM THE
MAYOR THAT THEY ARE WORRIED
THAT THE BUDGET ACTION MAY
LIMIT THE ABILITY TO BACK FILL
FOR POSITIONS THAT ARE FUNDED
THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AGGREGATED
AND THAT ARE VACATED.
I JUST WANT TO GET AN
UNDERSTANDING FROM YOU AND OR
DAN ABOUT WHETHER THERE IS
ANYTHING IN THIS PROPOSED
BUDGET ACTION THAT PROHIBITS
THE DEPARTMENT FROM BACK
FILLING POSITIONS.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF POSITIONS
ARE FUNDED, IF THE POSITION HAS
NOT BEEN AGGREGATED AND IT
SUDDENLY BECOMES VACANT, DOES
THE DEPARTMENT STILL HAVE THE
ABILITY TO FILL, HIRE FOR THAT
POSITION?
>> I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT
IS YES, THEY DO.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN YOU
SAY HIRE, YOU MEAN HIRE NEW
OFFICERS OR USE OVER TIME TO
BACK FILL?
>> I MEAN REPLACE THE BODY.
>> IN TERMS OF OVER TIME FOR
BACK FILL, REPLACING THE BODY
IN THE SHORT TERM, IT'S
ENTIRELY DEPENDENT ON HOW MUCH
FUNDING THEY HAVE FOR OVER
TIME.
IF THIS FUNDING IS REMOVED THEY
WOULD HAVE LESS FUNDING FOR
OVER TIME TO DO THIS, TO BACK
FILL FOR THE BODIES IN PATROL.
AND THEY MAY BE FORCED INTO A
SITUATION WHERE THEY HAVE TO
PUT OFFICERS INTO PATROL TO
BACK FILL.
>> I THINK IT'S THE CASE THAT
SO LONG AS THEY HAVE POSITION
AUTHORITY IT DOESN'T MATTER IF
AN INDIVIDUAL LEAVES THE FORCE,
THEY HAVE AUTHORITY TO HIRE
ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.
OF COURSE IT TAKES TIME TO GET
THROUGH THE ACADEMY AND ALL THE
TRAINING.
IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO GET
SOMEONE INTO A FULLY TRAINED
SWORN OFFICER POSITION BUT THEY
HAVE THE AUTHORITY DO SO.
ISN'T THAT CORRECT?
>> YES.
I THINK WE HAVE HANDLED BOTH
ASPECTS OF COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ'S QUESTIONS.
>> IF I CAN ADD, I THINK BEING
ON THE NOSE ABOUT IT, BUDGET
ACTION ITSELF SAYS IT ASSUMES
THERE WILL BE EQUAL NUMBER OF
HIRES AND SEPARATIONS, 114 A
PIECE.
THAT'S SORT OF THE ASSUMPTION
IN THE AMENDMENT AS HAS BEEN
DISCUSSED TODAY, THERE ARE A
NUMBER OF WAYS WHERE YOU CAN
TALK ABOUT HOW THE DEPARTMENT
MAY ACHIEVE SAVINGS DUE TO
CURRENT ATTRITION RATES, FUTURE
ATTRITION RATES, HOW SUCCESSFUL
THEY ARE AT HIRING.
I THINK THE DECISION IS HOW
MUCH TO AUTHORIZE THEM TO SPEND
IN 2021 RIGHT NOW KNOWING THAT
THE SITUATION MAY CHANGE AND
YOU MAY WANT TO CHANGE
AUTHORIZATION IN THE FUTURE
DEPENDING ON CIRCUMSTANCES AND
THAT CAN INCLUDE CAPTURING
SAVINGS THAT WOULD BE ACHIEVED
THROUGH COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ'S PROVISO ON $5
MILLION, CAPTURING SAVINGS
THROUGH ANOTHER PROVISO.
THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS.
THIS ACTION IS CHANGING HOW
MUCH DEPARTMENT IS AUTHORIZED
TO SPEND AT THE BEGINNING OF
THE YEAR AND MAY NEED TO BE
RECONSIDERED IN THE FUTURE.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
THEN THERE IS SORT OF THE
QUESTION OF IF WE WANTED TO
HIRE MORE THAN 114 WE WOULDN'T
BE ABLE TO HIRE MORE THAN 114.
TO ME THAT WOULD BE TRUE NO
MATTER WHAT WE SET THE NUMBER
AT.
OUR JOB IS TO IN THE CONTEXT OF
THE FULL REVENUE OF THE CITY TO
PROVIDE X NUMBER OF DOLLARS TO
SPD.
IT IS ALL DISCRETIONARY
FUNDING.
THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HIRE 114
OFFICERS, COULD BE THE CASE
THEY WANTED TO HIRE 50 NEXT
YEAR AND THEY THINK THEY MIGHT
BE ABLE TO DO 60.
THE FACT THAT WE ARE FUNDING
THEM FOR A TOTAL NUMBER OF
POSITIONS CERTAINLY I THINK CAN
BE CHARACTERIZED AS A CAP
MEANING A MAXIMUM BUT THAT'S
DIFFERENT THAN CHARACTERIZING
THE TOTAL APPROPRIATION AS A
HIRING FREEZE.
IS THAT FAIR?
>> I THINK IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY
FAIR.
IT SORT OF GOES BACK TO THE
COMMENTS I MADE AT THE START OF
THE PRESENTATION WHICH IS THE
COUNCIL DOESN'T APPROPRIATE A
STAFFING PLAN AND COUNCIL
DOESN'T APPROPRIATE POSITIONS,
DOESN'T APPROPRIATE A STAFFING
PLAN.
IT'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT BASED ON
WHAT SPD THINKS IT CAN DO IN
TERMS OF HIRES AND WHAT SPD
THINKS WILL HAPPEN IN TERMS OF
SEPARATIONS.
WE HAD HEARD FROM SPD AT THE
POINT IN TIME OF THE BUDGET
THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD
ONLY HIRE 114.
SO THAT IS ALL THE MAYOR FUNDED
IN HER PROPOSED BUDGET WAS THE
HIRING OF 114.
SO THE COUNCIL IS NOT TAKING
ANY ACTION THAT IS INCONSISTENT
WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET ON THE
HIRING SIDE.
I THINK IT IS TRUE IF THIS
RECENT INFORMATION FROM THE
EXECUTIVE THAT THEY CAN HIRE
MORE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS
NOT CONTEMPLATED IN PROPOSED
BUDGET AND THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE HAD
TO TAKE ACTION ON NEXT YEAR.
SO I THINK IT IS THE CASE THAT
COUNCIL SHOULD THINK ABOUT NOT
A HIRING PLAN BUT DOES SPD HAVE
ENOUGH MONEY TO DO WHAT IT IS
PROJECTING TO DO IN ARE
PROPOSED BUDGET ON THE HIRING
SIDE.
IT IS THE SAME AS WHAT COUNCIL
WOULD BE ADOPTING WITH THIS
AMENDMENT.
IT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE FUNDING
AVAILABLE FOR 114.
>> GOT IT.
SO TO SORT OF SUMMARIZE THAT
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED 2021
BUDGET INCLUDED FUNDING FOR 114
NEW HIRES AT THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
THE BUDGET WE ARE CONSIDERING
NOW DOES NOT RESTRICT THE MAYOR
FROM PURSUING ON BEHALF OF SPD
THAT STAFF OF 114 NEW HIRES.
WHAT THIS ACTION DOES HOWEVER
IS IT MODIFIES THE PROJECTED
AMOUNT OF ATTRITION THAT WE
BELIEVE WILL ACTUALLY OCCUR IN
2021 WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN
WHAT SPD HAS ESTIMATED IN A
POINT IN TIME PROPOSAL IN ITS
2021 PROPOSED BUDGET MEANING WE
ESTIMATE THERE WILL BE 114
SEPARATIONS IN 2021 AS OPPOSED
TO THE 89 SEPARATIONS THAT SPD
HAS FORECASTED WOULD OCCUR IN
2021.
SO WE ARE FRONT LOADING
POTENTIAL SAVINGS AS A RESULT
OF THAT MODULATED ESTIMATE IS
MY UNDERSTANDING OF SORT OF
THAT ESSENTIAL -- IS MY
UNDERSTANDING ACCURATE?
>> YES, 100%.
>> SO AGAIN WE ARE NOT TOUCHING
AT ALL THE HIRING SIDE OF THE
EQUATION.
WE ARE SIMPLY SAYING WE THINK
BASED ON ALL THE DATA WE NOW
HAVE THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER
RELATED TO SEPARATIONS THAT IT
IS REASONABLE FOR COUNCIL TO
MODIFY THE NUMBER OF FORECASTED
SEPARATIONS FOR 2021 AND TO DO
THAT NOW TO CAPTURE SAVINGS AND
PRIORITIZE DOLLARS FOR
COMMUNITY SAFETY PROJECTS.
>> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF
WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I BELIEVE I SAW COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT.
IF I SAW ANOTHER HAND, REMIND
ME.
>> I AM SORRY.
I NEED ONE MORE SECOND.
>> NO PROBLEM.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, WOULD
YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD?
>> SURE.
I WANT TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT
INFORMATION WE HAVE RECEIVED
FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE AND FOR
THE FOLKS WHO HAVEN'T HAD A
CHANCE TO SEE IT, I WANT TO
GIVE GREG A CHANCE TO RESPOND.
I DO WANT TO SAY THE FACT THAT
WE ARE ANTICIPATING 114
ATTRITIONS SEEMS A LITTLE CUTE
TO ME TO BE HONEST GIVEN THAT
THE NUMBER IN THE STAFFING PLAN
FOR THE HIRES IS 114.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT IS AN
ATTEMPT TO RESPOND TO THE CALL
FOR NO NEW NET OFFICERS.
IT CONFUSES.
I APPRECIATE THE LINE OF
QUESTIONING TO BE CLEAR OF WHAT
IT IS WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING.
WE ARE NOT DOING A HIRING
FREEZE.
WE ARE NOT TAKING A BUDGET
ACTION THAT WILL IN ITSELF
RESULT IN NO NET OFFICERS. BUT
TO THE POINT AS IT RELATES TO
THE NEXT ITERATION OF WHAT WE
SHOULD EXPECT NOT ON THE
ATTRITION SIDE BUT THE HIRE
SIDE, WE WERE NOTIFIED BY THE
EXECUTIVE OVER THE WEEKEND THAT
THEY HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF
PREAPPROVED HIRES THAT ARE
READY TO MOVE INTO THE ACADEMY
NEXT YEAR.
APPARENTLY THE FORECAST FOR
JANUARY IS 11.
FEBRUARY IS 12.
FOR MARCH IS 11.
AFTER THAT, FORECAST ASSUMES
SEVEN PER MONTH.
THIS WAS PROVIDED AS
INFORMATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE
ARGUING THEY THINK THEY CAN
HIRE MORE THAN 114 IN 2021
DESPITE THE FACT THAT OVER
SEVEN YEARS THAT GREG PROVIDED
THEY'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO HIRE
MORE THAN 108.
TWO QUESTIONS, GREG.
CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT WHY THE STAFFING PLAN
ISN'T ONLY A FUNCTION OF
DOLLARS, THAT THE PROJECTIONS
OF HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN BE HIRED
ISN'T JUST ABOUT FUNDS THAT THE
COUNCIL PROVIDES.
IT'S ABOUT SOME PAST YEARS'
INFORMATION ABOUT APPLICATIONS,
ELIGIBILITY, SPOTS IN THE
ACADEMY, PEOPLE WHO FINISH, WHO
GRADUATE, FINISH TRAINING, ETC.
SECONDLY, CAN YOU LET US KNOW
WHETHER OR NOT THE NUMBERS I
JUST MENTIONED FOR PREAPPROVED
HIRES ARE INCLUDED IN THE 114
HIRE PROJECTION THAT SPD
PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED?
THANKS.
>> THANKS.
TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION FIRST,
THE NUMBERS YOU JUST READ ARE
NUMBERS FROM THE OCTOBER
STAFFING PLAN.
THOSE ARE NUMBERS THAT ARE PART
OF THE 114.
IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FOLKS
WAITING IN THE WINGS, I HAVE
NOT BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THERE
ARE ADDITIONAL FOLKS WAITING IN
THE WINGS BEYOND THAT.
AT LEAST NOT FORMALLY.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE AT THIS POINT
IN TIME, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU
READ ARE WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT.
TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, THERE
ARE LOTS OF LIMITATIONS ON
SPD'S ABILITY TO HIRE NEW
OFFICERS.
THERE IS A BACKGROUND PROCESS
THAT IS EXTENSIVE.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO, WITH ANY
NUMBER OF NEW RECRUITS COMING
IN, SPEND A LOT OF TIME
BACKGROUNDING OFFICERS BEFORE
THEY CAN BE HIRED.
THERE ARE ORAL BOARDS THEY NEED
TO GET THROUGH.
SO THOSE ARE TIME CONSTRAINTS
ON THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE
OFFICERS, EXISTING OFFICERS OR
DETECTIVES ARE USED TO DO THE
BACKGROUND CHECKS AND ARE
NEEDED FOR THE ORAL BOARDS.
THERE ARE SOME RESEARCH
LIMITATINS ON THAT SIDE.
THERE IS A LIMITATION ON THE
NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT CAN GO TO
THE ACADEMY.
RIGHT NOW SEATTLE HAS A
CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS FOR SEVEN
PER MONTH.
IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SPOTS
AVAILABLE IN THE ACADEMY
BECAUSE OTHER AGENCIES ARE NOT
SENDING THEIR SHARE THEN IT IS
POTENTIAL THAT SPD CAN SEND
MORE.
I BELIEVE THAT WITH THE
ADDITIONAL FOLKS THAT THEY HAVE
COMING IN IN THE FIRST QUARTER,
THE 12 AND 11 THAT YOU
MENTIONED, THEY ARE HOPING TO
DO A SEATTLE ONLY ACADEMY AND
THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING
COMMISSION TO DO THAT.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I
KNOW ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT I
JUST SAID.
I GUESS I AM GIVING YOU A LOT
OF INFORMATION TO SAY YES,
THERE ARE OTHER LIMITATIONS FOR
THEIR ABILITY TO HIRE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD FOR THAT AS WELL.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, I BELIEVE
YOU ARE NEXT.
THEN I THINK WE ARE READY TO
WRAP IT UP.
I DON'T SEE ADDITIONAL HANDS.
>> THANK YOU.
I HAD FINAL COMMENTS.
I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS.
IF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE
QUESTIONS, I SHOULD COME AFTER
THEM.
>> I DON'T SEE ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
AS THE COUNCILMEMBER WHO
BROUGHT THE AMENDMENTS FOR 50%
DEFUND OF THE POLICE AND THE $9
MILLION REDUCTION IN THE POLICE
BUDGET FOR NO NEW COPS, I AM OF
COURSE NEED LESS TO SAY VOTING
YES ON THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT TO
CUT 2 MILLION FROM THE LOADED
POLICE BUDGET, TO INSTEAD PUT
THE FUNDS IN COMMUNITY LED
SAFETY INITIATIVES.
I THINK $2 MILLION FOR
COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND FOR
NEEDS OF MARGINALIZED PEOPLE IN
OUR CITY IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT THE 50%
DEFUND WHICH WAS A KEY DEMAND
OF THE JUSTICE FOR GEORGE FLOYD
MOVEMENT NATIONWIDE.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL AT
THIS POINT GIVEN ALL THE
CHANGES TO REDUCE POLICE BUDGET
BY $150 MILLION AND WHEN I
MOVED THAT FOR A VOTE LAST
WEEK, NO OTHER COUNCILMEMBER
WOULD EVEN SECOND THE MOTION.
THIS $2 MILLION IS NOT EVEN SPD
OFFICER HIRING FREEZE THAT
THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS
WROTE TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO
DEMAND OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE CUTTING
$9.05 MILLION AND WHEN I MOVED
THAT LAST THURSDAY ONLY
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES JOINED ME
IN VOTING YES.
AS I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, EVERY
REDUCTION IN THE BLOATED POLICE
BUDGET REFLECTS REAL TANGIBLE
VICTORY FOR THE MOVEMENT THAT
IS ACTUALLY VERY RARE.
POLICE SPENDING IS ALMOST NEVER
REDUCED UNDER CAPITALISM.
THIS YEAR IT HAS HAPPENED IN
SMALL WAYS SEVERAL TIMES AND IT
IS ENTIRELY BECAUSE OF THE
STRENGTH OF THE BLACK LIVES
MATTER MOVEMENT IN SEATTLE,
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ORDINARY
PEOPLE JOINING IN MULTI RACIAL
UNITY AGAINST POLICE VIOLENCE
AND REPRESSION.
ADDITIONALLY IN SEATTLE IT HAS
BEEN BECAUSE OF THE MOVEMENT
HAVING ITS OWN UNWAVERING AND
CONSISTENT VOICE THROUGH
SOCIALIST COUNCIL OFFICE AND
THE PEOPLE'S BUDGET MOVEMENT
WHICH HAS STOOD STEADFAST WITH
SOLID PIECE DARE BUDGET ON THE
POLICE-RELATED DEMANDS.
FIRST MAYOR PROPOSED REDUCING
POLICE BUDGET BY $18.4 MILLION
IN REAL TERMS NOT INCLUDING THE
ACCOUNTING TRICKS.
LAST WEEK CITY COUNCIL REDUCED
POLICE BUDGET BY $10.7 MILLION.
FINALLY BECAUSE OF THE OUTRAGE
AND DISAPPOINTMENT LAST WEEK
OVER REFUSAL OF MOST DEMOCRATS
TO SUPPORT EVEN THE SPD HIRING
FREEZE AMENDMENT FROM MY OFFICE
WHICH WOULD HAVE CUT $9 MILLION
THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL $2
MILLION BEING DIRECTED TO
COMMUNITY NEEDS.
82.2% OF THE POLICE BUDGET.
SOME COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS AND
ALSO DEMOCRATIC COUNCIL MEMBERS
USED THE FIGURE OF 17% OR
NEARLY 20% AS THE REDUCTIONS IN
POLICE BUDGET BUT WE HAVE TO
NOTE THAT FIGURE INCLUDES
THINGS LIKE TRANSFERRING
PARKING ENFORCEMENT COSTS OUT
OF THE POLICE BUDGET WHICH IS
NOT ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IN
PRACTICE OF POLICING.
I THINK 8.2% IS THE MOST
ACCURATE MEASURE OF WHAT HAS
BEEN ACHIEVED.
THAT REDUCTION IN THE POLICE
BUDGET IS A REAL ACHIEVEMENT OF
THE MOVEMENT AND WE NEED TO
CELEBRATE THAT WHILE WE HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR WHAT IS
NEEDED WHICH IS DEFUNDING
POLICE BY 50% BECAUSE IT IS
PUBLIC REVENUES GOING TO
REPRESS CIV POLICING AND
INSTEAD PUTTING FUNDS TO
COMMUNITY PROGRAMS FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SOCIAL
SERVICES WHICH IS SOMETHING
THAT WE HAVE BROAD AGREEMENT ON
IN SEATTLE AND FOR AN ELECTED
COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT BOARD WITH
REAL POWERS OVER THE POLICE
WHICH IS ANOTHER THING NOT A
SINGLE DEMOCRAT ON THE COUNCIL
WAS WILLING TO SUPPORT MY
OFFICE AND PEOPLE'S BUDGET ON.
NOT ONLY WILL ALL OF THAT
REDUCE REPRESS CIV POLICING BUT
WILL ALLOW EXPANSION OF THE
PROGRAM.
STATISTICS WILL TELL YOU HAVE A
FAR GREATER IMPACT EVEN ON
CRIME.
OUR MOVEMENT SHOULD NOT BE
NAIVE AND BELIEVE THIS BUDGET
AMENDMENT FOR $2 MILLION CAME
THIS MORNING BECAUSE POLICE
COINCIDENTLY HAPPENED OVER THE
WEEKEND TO CHANGE FORECAST OF
HOW MANY OFFICERS WILL QUIT OR
HIRE NEXT YEAR OR BECAUSE NEW
DATA ABOUT ATTRITION HAS BEEN
ACQUIRED.
EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE NEW
DATA ON ATTRITION, OUR MOVEMENT
HAS TO BE CLEAR THAT BASED ON
ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SPD STAFFING
IN 2021.
FUNDAMENTALLY WE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND THAT SOME NEW DATA
IS NOT THE REASON TO ARE THIS
$2 MILLION REDUCTION IN POLICE
BUDGET.
THE ONLY REASON THIS IS
HAPPENING IS BECAUSE MY OFFICE
BROUGHT IN EVERY DEMAND FROM
THE MOVEMENT FROM 50% TO $9
MILLION.
DEMOCRATS OPPOSED EVERY
PROPOSAL.
BECAUSE OF THAT THERE HAS BEEN
JUSTIFIABLE ANGER AND DISCUSS
AT THE ESTABLISHMENT OVER THE
WEEKEND FROM THOUSANDS OF
ORDINARY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
COMMITTED TO BLACK LIVES
MATTER.
THIS ANGER IS WHAT HAS MEANT
THAT THE DEMOCRATIC COUNCIL
MEMBERS NEEDED TO SAVE FACE
WITH THE MOVEMENT BY BETRAYING
PROMISES TO DEFUND AND EVEN
REFUSING TO SUPPORT NO NEW
COPS.
THE HOPE ON THE DEMOCRATS' PART
IS THIS ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION
WILL PLACATE THE MOVEMENT.
MONTHS IN FEDERAL MESSAGE IS WE
ABSOLUTELY SHOULD CELEBRATE
WINNING THIS 2 MILLION AND
UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS BECAUSE
OF OUR MOBILIZING AND
ORGANIZING THAT WE ARE WINNING
BUT REFUSE TO BE PLACATED UNTIL
WE WINDOW HANDS THAT WE HAVE
BEEN CALLING FOR AND CONTINUE
THE FIGHT INTO NEXT YEAR AND
COMBINE THE FIGHT FOR THE END
TO POLICE VIOLENCE AND FOR
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY TO NEED
TO CANCEL RENT AND MORTGAGE,
UTILITY PAVEMENTS THIS COVID
FOR MASSIVE COVID RELIEF AND
GUARANTEED JOBS PROGRAM WITH A
GREEN NEW DEAL.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL.
GONZALEZ IS NEXT.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT QUITE
LITERALLY THE DATA DID COME ON
FRIDAY.
THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE REFLECTING
THAT DATA.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
NO PROBLEM.
IT'S REALITIES OF WORKING FROM
HOME.
I HAD AN INFANT DANGLING FROM
MY LEGS FOR A MOMENT.
THANK YOU CHAIR MOSQUEDA FOR
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME
CLOSING REMARKS.
I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THIS
AMENDMENT ALL WEEKEND, HAVE
WORKED HARD TO GET AS MUCH
INFORMATION AS I CAN FROM THE
SPONSOR AND FROM COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF AND ALSO FROM
ENGAGEMENT DIRECTLY WITH THE
MAYOR AND WITH HER SENIOR STAFF
AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, I AM
GOING TO SUPPORT THIS
PARTICULAR PROPOSAL BUT I WANT
TO EXPLAIN WHY I AM SUPPORTING
THIS PROPOSAL.
I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS
PROPOSAL WAS MADE IN THE 11th
HOUR AND THAT IT WAS GIVEN TO
US AFTER IT WAS SUGGESTED A NO
ADDITIONAL POLICY AMENDMENTS.
I WANT TO DISWADE US FROM
ENGAGING IN THIS BEHAVIOR.
I THINK WE ARE BETTER SERVED
AND CONSTITUENTS ARE BETTER
SERVED WITH MEANINGFUL POLICY
CONVERSATIONS DURING THE
ALLOCATED PROCESS TO HAVE
STRONG DEBATE AROUND THE REALLY
IMPORTANT POLICY ISSUES.
I HAVE DEDICATED A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF TIME OVER THE WEEKEND
TO DIG INTO THIS TO BE SURE I
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS
AND WHAT THE IMPACT IS.
THAT DOESN'T IMPACT CONCERNS
ABOUT HOW THIS PROPOSAL CAME TO
BE.
SO I WANT TO EXPRESS MY
CONCERNS RELATED TO THAT
PARTICULAR ASPECT.
THIS PROPOSAL IN MY MIND
CAPTURES SAVINGS WE EXPECT TO
BE ACHIEVED FROM REVISED SPD
STAFFING PLAN IN 2021.
THIS REVISED STAFFING MODEL
ANTICIPATES ABOUT 114 OFFICERS
LEAVING SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT IN 2021 COUPLED WITH
A PLAN TO HIRE 114 NEW
RECRUITS.
THIS PLAN IS JUST A FORECAST.
IT IS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND
REALITY OFTEN DEPARTS FROM THE
PREDICTIONS.
BASED ON TRENDS I SUSPECT THAT
THE UPDATE TO THE FORECAST IS
LIKELY FAIR AND APPROPRIATE.
I BELIEVE IT WILL BEAR OUT THAT
IN 2021 DEPARTURES FROM FORCE
WILL CONTINUE AT INCREASED RATE
ABOVE WHAT WAS FORECASTED BY
SPD IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
AS A RESULT WE WILL NEED TO
REVISIT MY $5 MILLION PROVISO
THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET
IN 2021 TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR
NOT IT WOULD BE MORE
APPROPRIATE BASED ON REALTIME
INFORMATION TO PROVIDE THE
DOLLARS BACK TO SPD OR TO
CONTINUE TO CAPTURE LABOR
SAVINGS FOR COMMUNITY
INVESTMENTS.
I VIEW THIS AMENDMENT AS
TRANSACTIONAL IN NATURE SIMILAR
TO OTHER BUDGET ACTIONS I
SPONSOR TO REDIRECT SAVINGS
FROM SPD STAFFING PLAN TO
BUILDING AT EARN TOUCH SYSTEM
THAT TRULY ASSURES ALL SAFETY
WILL BE PROTECTED.
LIKE MY PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED
BUDGET PROPOSALS THIS WOULD
CAPTURE AND REINVEST
ANTICIPATED SAVINGS FROM
SPD2021 STAFFING PLAN.
WHILE THE REVISED STAFFING PLAN
ANTICIPATES A NET ZERO CHANGE
TO THE SIZE OF THE FORCE WITH
114 DEPARTURES AND 114 HIRES,
IT DOES NOT RESTRICT SPD'S
ABILITY AND AUTHORITY TO BRING
IN NEW RECRUITS THEY ANTICIPATE
HIRING NEXT YEAR.
THAT NUMBER IS 114 AS PROPOSED
BY THE MAYOR.
TODAY THIS MORNING IS THE FIRST
TIME WE HAVE HEARD THAT THE
MAYOR AND SPD BELIEVE THAT THEY
MAY BE ABLE TO HIRE MORE THAN
114 NEW RECRUITS.
HOWEVER, HER BUDGET DID NOT
PROPOSE 114, MORE THAN 114 NEW
HIRES TO BEGIN WITH.
TO THE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT A
HIRING FREEZE.
IF EXECUTIVE WANTS TO HIRE
BEYOND THEIR CURRENT PLAN EVEN
AS PROPOSED BY HER IN THE 2021
PROPOSED BUDGET, SHE WILL NEED
TO COME TO THE COUNCIL AND
EXPLAIN AND JUSTIFY THAT
POSITION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
A LOT HAS BEEN MADE ABOUT
MAJORITY OF COUNCIL VOTING
AGAINST PROPOSED HIRING FREEZE
LAST WEEK.
I WANT TO SHARE HOW I BELIEVE
WE ARE STILL ON THE COURSE TO
RIGHT SIZE THE FORCE WITHOUT
ADOPTING A HIRING FREEZE
STRATEGY.
TO START, HERE IN SEATTLE, WE
ARE MEANINGFULLY ADVANCING WORK
SPARKED IN CITIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY IN RESPONSE TO THE
BLACK LIVES MARRIED PROTEST
STEMMING FROM MURDER OF GEORGE
FLOYD.
MANY CITIES DISCUSSED DIVESTING
AND MANY EFFORTS HAVE COLLAPSED
UNDER THE WEIGHT OF THE EFFORT.
THESE INSTITUTIONS HAVE CREATED
BY DESIGN ROAD BLOCKS,
BARRIERS, HURDLES TO ANY
EFFORTS TO REFORM OR DISMANTLE
PROBLEMS WITH POLICING WE CAN
ALL SEE THAT CREATES TRAUMA IN
COMMUNITY.
CITIES AND COMMUNITIES HAVE
BEEN SIDELINED BY DEFENSES
BUILT INTO INSTITUTION OF
POLICING.
WE HERE IN SEATTLE ARE ONE OF
THE FEW CITIES IN AMERICA THAT
IS STILL IN ACTIVE PURSUIT OF
REFORMING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
MODEL, ACHIEVING DIVESTMENT
FROM MILITARIZED POLICE
DEPARTMENT, REINVESTING THE
DOLLARS IN COMMUNITIES IN A
CIVILIAN LED PUBLIC SAFETY
SYSTEM.
AS I ARTICULATED LAST THURSDAY
MY CONCERNS ABOUT PROPOSED
HIRING FREEZE ARE RELATED TO
THE FACT THAT SWORN PROJECTED
DEPARTURES AND HIRING FIGURES
WITNESSED IN RECENT YEARS.
NEW DATA SHARED FRIDAY
REINFORCES HOW THIS IS
ACCELERATING FOR THE SECOND
MONTH.
SEPARATIONS ARE AGAIN WAY ABOVE
PROJECTIONS WITH 23 DEPARTURES
VERSES THE SEVEN THAT SPD
FORECASTED.
IN THE FIRST TEN MONTHS OF
2020SPD FORECASTED 80
DEPARTURES BUT WE HAVE SEEN
134.
THIS IS INCREASE OF 54
SEPARATIONS BEFORE SPD'S
FORECAST AND THERE ARE STILL
TWO MONTHS LEFT IN THE YEAR.
SO I AM AND REMAIN CONCERNED
THAT ANY KIND OF HIRING FREEZE
WOULD RESULT IN UNSUSTAINABLE
REDUCTION OF THE FORCE THAT
WOULD PREVENT THE CITY FROM
RESPONDING TO CRITICAL PUBLIC
SAFETY NEEDS BEFORE ALTERNATIVE
SYSTEMS ARE IN PLACE.
UNFORTUNATE REALITY IS UNDOING
THE SYSTEMS EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE
ROOTED IN DEEPLY OPPRESSIVE
ORIGINS CANNOT BE ACHIEVED
OVERNIGHT.
WE NEED TIME AND RUN WAY TO
DRASTICALLY EXPAND ALTERNATIVE
EMERGENCY RESPONSE SYSTEMS THAT
CAN ADAPTLY PROTECT LIFE AND
SAFETY OF THOSE THAT CURRENTLY
RELY ON PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEMS
AS A RESPONSE TO THE CRISIS
THEY MAY BE WITNESSING OR
EXPERIENCING.
I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MUCH
WORK LEFT TO DO.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING.
AGAIN, I VIEW THIS PROPOSAL AS
CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNCIL
BUDGET ACTIONS THAT I HAVE
SPONSORED THAT ARE PART OF THE
REBALANCED PACKAGE, NAMELY THE
$6.1 MILLION REDUCTION TO THE
STAFFING PLAN GIVEN THE
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE JUST
RECEIVED RELATED TO DEPARTURES
AND HIRES IN OCTOBER, I THINK
IT IS REASON A BE TO BAKE THOSE
INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.
AGAIN COLLEAGUES I WANT TO
REMIND US THAT THE $5 MILLION
PROVISO INCLUDED HERE MAY NOT
PRODUCE THE SAVINGS IF THE
NUMBERS CONTINUE IN THE
DIRECTION THEY ARE TRENDING.
THANK YOU CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS?
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION
AND I WANT TO SAY I THINK THE
AMENDMENT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE
SHOULD BE DECREASING FUNDING
FOR THE NUMBER OF SWORN
OFFICERS NEXT YEAR.
AS GREG MENTIONED, WE
APPROPRIATE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
WE DON'T DECIDE STAFFING.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I
UNDERSTAND THAT.
THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS HAVE
BEEN ON THE TABLE ALL SUMMER
BECAUSE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
HOW THE PLAN IS PUT TOGETHER
AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR NEIGHBORS
IMPACTED.
I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS
MORNING WE GOT YET ANOTHER
VERSION OF WHAT THE STAFFING
PLAN MAY BE IS AN INDICATION
THAT WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF
HOW THE PLANS ARE CREATED.
ACCORDING TO SPD'S DATA, THEY
SPEND 97% OF THE TIME
RESPONDING TO CALLS.
OVER HALF ARE FOR NONCRIMINAL
EVENTS.
IF PRIORITY ONE CALLS SPD
RESPONDED TO IN 2019 ONLY ABOUT
11% WERE FOR CRIMINAL EVENTS.
2% FOR ASSAULT, 4% FOR
TRESPASSING, 3% FOR SHOP
LIFTING, ANOTHER 2% FROM OTHER
KINDS OF THEFT.
THESE ARE THINGS CONSIDERED
CRIMINAL THAT THEY'RE
RESPONDING TO.
THIS ANALYSIS IS PROVIDED BY
SPD.
SO IT BEGS THE QUESTION FOR ME
WHY ARE WE MOVING SO MANY
OFFICERS OFF OF THEIR
ASSIGNMENTS IN DETECTIVE UNITS
FOR EXAMPLE WHERE THEY MIGHT BE
DOING IMPORTANT INVESTIGATIVE
WORK INTO PATROL AND 911
RESPONSE AND PROTEST
SUPPRESSION.
FOR ME THE REAL QUESTION IS
WHEN WILL WE AS A SOCIETY
REJECT THE PREMISE THAT MORE
OFFICERS EQUALS MORE SAFETY?
WE CAN DEBATE STAFFING MODELS
AND TRAINING REFORMS AND
WEAPONS SELECTION BUT THE TRUTH
OF THE MATTER IS THERE IS NO
TECHNO CONSIDERATIC FIX TO
AGGRESSIVE POLICING.
INSTEAD OF INVESTING IN NEW
POLICE STAFFING, WE NEED TO USE
PRECIOUS GOVERNMENT RESOURCES
TO REDUCE INEQUALITY.
THAT IS WHAT LEADS TO THE KIND
OF COMMUNITY CONDITIONS THAT
ARE TROUBLING SOCIETY.
THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT
CAUSES PEOPLE TO CALL 911.
RESOURCES FOR 25 NET NEW
OFFICERS SHOULD GO INSTEAD TO
IMPROVING COMMUNITY CONDITIONS.
I WANT TO JUST END BY QUOTING
THE BOOK "END OF POLICING."
I HAVE BEEN READING IT A LOT
LATELY, I WILL ADMIT.
THE CURRENT SYSTEM SUBSIDIZES
INEQUALITY, CRIMINALIZES THOSE
IT LEAVES BEHIND, ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY DEMAND SOMETHING
BETTER.
YES, COMMUNITIES DESERVE
PROTECTION FROM CRIME AND EVEN
FROM DISORDER BUT WE MUST
ALWAYS DEMAND THOSE WITHOUT
RELIANCE ON THE COERCION,
GUARD OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE DER
SYSTEM.
I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS
AMENDMENT AND I WANT TO SAY
THAT WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO
DO.
I AM COMMITTED TO DOING THAT
WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH MY
COLLEAGUES AND WITH
STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE HAVE BEEN
PUSHING US ON THE COMMITMENTS
WE HAVE MADE AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO CONTINUING THIS WORK WITH
YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST PARTIALLY IN RESPONSE TO
SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE
COME BEFORE, I WANTED TO SAY A
COUPLE MORE THINGS HERE.
SORRY.
NOT ONLY IS THIS NOT A HIRING
FREEZE BECAUSE THE PROJECTIONS
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT INCLUDE
HIRING.
THERE HAS ALSO BEEN A CALL FOR
THIS CONCEPT OF NO NEW NET
HIRES AS DISTINCT FROM HIRING
FREEZE.
HIRING FREEZE IN MY MIND MEANS
WE WOULD NOT RECRUIT, TAKE
APPLICATIONS, SEND PEOPLE TO
THE ACADEMY, HAVE THEM GO
THROUGH TRAINING.
THIS BUDGET ASSUMES THAT THERE
IS GOING TO BE HIRING
HAPPENING.
I DON'T THINK IT IS EITHER A
BUDGET ACTION THAT IN ITSELF
WILL RESULT IN NO NEW NET HIRES
AS SOME HAVE CALLED FOR.
INSTEAD IT IS A BUDGET ACTION
THAT REFLECTS REALITY THAT
GIVEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
STAFFING PLAN, IT WOULD NOT
LIKELY BE POSSIBLE FOR SPD TO
MAKE NEW HIRES IN 2021.
BUDGET ACTION IS BASED ON, IS
AN ADJUSTMENT BASED ON STAFFING
PLAN GIVEN MOST RECENT NUMBERS
FOR ATTRITION.
FROM CENTRAL STAFF, THE QUOTE
IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE
AMENDMENT IS THAT THE STAFFING
PLAN CAN NO LONGER REACH A
TOTAL OF 1,357 FULL TIME
EQUIVALENTS.
WE'RE USING THE TERM, I THINK,
STAFFING PLAN A LITTLE BIT
INTERCHANGEABLY WITH HOW IT'S
BEEN TRADITIONALLY USED.
I FIRST WANT TO SAY THIS
COUNCIL HAS EMBRACED THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT MORE
OFFICERS DO NOT EQUAL MORE
SAFETY.
OUR STAFFING PLAN IS BASED NOT
ON A NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT WE
HAVE DONE A WORK LOAD ANALYSIS
TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WORK WE
WANT SPD OFFICERS TO BE DOING
AND HOW MANY HOURS IT TAKES TO
DO, OUR STAFFING PLAN RIGHT NOW
IS MERELY BASED ON THE NUMBER
OF HIRES SPD BELIEVES IT CAN DO
NEXT YEAR WHICH IS A
SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION FROM THE
PREVIOUS YEARS' STAFFING PLANS.
THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S STAFFING
PLAN WAS BASED NOT JUST ON
HIRING TO FILL FOR ATTRITIONS
BUT IT WAS BASED ON THIS
CONCEPT OF GROWING THE SIZE OF
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE NOT ON THE TRAJECTORY
ANYMORE.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THE ANALYSIS
NECESSAY FOR OVER MY YEARS OF
WORKING AT THE CITY COUNCIL TO
DETERMINE WHAT ARE STAFFERRING
PLANS SHOULD BE AND THE
STAFFING PLANS AS IT SHOULD BE
IS NOT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO
HIRE.
IT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS THAT WE WANT TO HIRE.
WE CANNOT DO THAT WORK WITHOUT
NEW INPUTS FOR THE WORK LOAD OF
OFFICERS AND THOSE NEW INPUTS
FOR WORK LOAD OF OFFICERS, IF
WE WANT THAT TO LOOK
DIFFERENTLY, IF WE WANT THAT TO
BE A SMALLER NUMBER OF
OFFICERS, IT HAS TO BE BASED ON
OFFICERS DOING LESS WORK.
OFFICERS AREN'T GOING TO BE
DOING LESS WORK UNLESS WE HAVE
OTHER PEOPLE DOING THE WORK.
I THINK THAT IS AN EXERCISE
THAT WE NEED TO ENGAGE IN NEXT
YEAR SO THAT WE CAN BUILD OFF
OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE THIS YEAR.
AGAIN, OUR ABILITY TO DO SO IS
REALLY LINKED TO OUR ABILITY TO
BOTH NOT ONLY FIND THE DOLLARS
FROM THE SPD BUDGET AND OTHER
BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS WE WAIT TO
SUPPORT THESE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY
RESPONSE SYSTEMS BUT THAT THOSE
SYSTEMS HAVE TO NOT ONLY BE
CONTRACTED TO DO THE WORK BUT
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE
SUPPORTED BY THE CITY IN
CREATING THAT NEW
INFRASTRUCTURE TO REPLACE SOME
OF THE WORK THAT POLICE ARE
DOING.
THEN WE HAVE TO DO ANALYSIS OF
HOW MANY NUMBERS OF HOURS OF
WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY POLICE
DEPARTMENT WORK, THESE NEW
RESPONSE EFFORTS ARE DOING.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.
I JUST REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE
THAT THAT IS WORK TO BE DONE.
TO DO IT WITH THIS BUDGET. ON
LASTLY, I AM SURE I WILL GET A
LOT OF FLAK FOR THIS, BUT I
KNOW WE HAVE TALKED A LOT AND
NOT ENOUGH ABOUT THE HARM THAT
MANY, MANY PEOPLE HAVE
EXPERIENCED AT THE HANDS OF
POLICE FOR CENTURIES ACROSS THE
NATION AND HERE IN SEATTLE.
OUR WORK TO SHIFT THE PUBLIC
SAFETY RESPONSE AWAY FROM THE
POLICE IS TO BEGIN TO ADDRESS
OUR NATION'S SHAME IN THE
HISTORY OF POLICING.
HARM AT THE HANDS OF POLICE HAS
BEEN MOST EXPERIENCED BY BLACK
MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE A
LITTLE BIT WITH THE LISTENING
PUBLIC IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF
THE TESTIMONY THAT I HAVE HEARD
TODAY AND IN THE PAST THAT
POLICE DON'T STOP CRIME, THEY
ONLY ARRIVE AFTER.
LAST MONDAY IN MY DISTRICT IN
SOUTH PARK, POLICE OFFICERS
RESPONDED TO AN ASSAULT BETWEEN
PEOPLE WHO LIVE UNSHELTERED,
LIVE IN THEIR RVs IN SOUTH
PARK.
THE VICTIM HAD KEROSENE POURED
ON HIM AND THE SUSPECT TRIED TO
úSTAB THE VICTIM WITH A LARGE
FIXED BLADE KNIFE.
OFFICERS ARRIVED AT THE SCENE
AND TOOK THE SUSPECT INTO
CUSTODY.
AND THAT IS ONE EXAMPLE.
I HEARD ANOTHER A COUPLE WEEKS
AGO IN PIONEER SQUARE, POLICE
ARRIVED AT A TIME WHEN A WOMAN
WAS BEING ASSAULTED AND
INTERRUPTED THE ASSAULT.
I WANT TO SAY THAT POLICE DO
STOP CRIME, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE
DONE A LOT OF HARM TO OUR
COMMUNITIES.
WE ARE TRYING TO WRESTLE WITH,
I THINK, SOMETHING THAT IS IN
SOME WAYS A CALCULATION THAT WE
CAN'T MAKE ON PAPER.
HOW DO WE SHIFT IN INVESTMENT
IN A SYSTEM THAT HAS DONE HARM
BUT THAT HAS ALSO STOPPED
CRIME?
HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT
CALCULATION WITHIN THE CONTEXT
OF THIS CRIMINAL JUSTICE
RECKONING THAT WE'RE IN THE
MIDST OF.
I THINK TO THAT I SAY WE JUST
HAVE TO COMMIT TO DOING THE
WORK AND CONTINUING TO DO THE
WORK.
WE ARE NOT AT THE END.
WE ARE AT THE BEGINNING.
OUR GOAL, I DON'T THINK IT IS
ABOUT WHAT THE GOLD NUMBER OF
POLICE OFFICERS IS IN THE
MOMENT.
IT'S ABOUT SHIFTING WHAT OUR
VISION OF PUBLIC SAFETY IS INTO
THE HANDS OF COMMUNITY-BASED
RESPONSES IN THOSE INSTANCES
WHERE THOSE KINDS OF RESPONSES
NOT ONLY REDUCE HARM BUT CAN
DELIVER COMMUNITY SAFETY IN A
WAY THAT POLICE OFFICERS
SOMETIMES CANNOT.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT
EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENED IN SOUTH PARK LAST
MONDAY.
AGAIN, IT'S A HARD THING TO
WEIGH THIS QUESTION OF HELP IN
SOME INSTANCES AND HARM IN
OTHERS BUT I AM COMMITTED TO
CONTINUING TO WEIGHING THOSE
REALITIES AS WELL AS THE
INVESTMENTS AND POLICY CHANGES
WITHIN THAT MATRICS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE FLOW THAT THIS
CONVERSATION CONTINUES.
I WANTED TO WRAP THIS UP AND
GET US TO A VOTE AND I
RECOGNIZE THE LATENESS OF THE
AMENDMENT.
I DO HOPE FOLKS KNOW AS SOON AS
WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE DATA WE
WORKED WITH CENTRAL STAFF TO BE
SURE THIS WAS AVAILABLE AS SOON
AS POSSIBLE.
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF FOLKS
WHO SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER
THE WEEKEND ON THIS.
THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR
YOUR QUESTIONS TODAY AND
PROCESS YOU PUT IN PLACE TO
ANYONE LIES THE AMENDMENT AND
THANKS TO MY STAFF AND CENTRAL
STAFF TO BE SURE THAT WE HAD
ALL THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE
TO REFLECT IN OUR BUDGET.
I THINK IF WE HADN'T REFLECTED
THIS, IT WOULD BE OUT OF
ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE
TRIED TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGH
MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS'
EXISTING PROPOSALS ESPECIALLY
COUNCILMEMBER'S GONZALEZ'S AND
EXTENDING STATEMENTS INTO THE
BUDGET TO BE SURE WE WERE
REFLECTING ALL THE KNOWN
VACANCIES SO WE COULD REALLY
CONTINUE TO INVEST IN COMMUNITY-
LED SOLUTIONS.
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ DID YOU
HAVE SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE A
VOTE?
>> YES.
I WILL BE VERY, VERY BRIEF.
I FIRST WANT TO THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR.
FIRST, IT WAS ANNOYING.
BUT THE LAST 72 HOURS TRYING TO
GET UP TO SPEED.
THANK YOU CENTRAL STAFF FOR
LATE NIGHT MEMOS.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
AND COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ FOR
HELPING ME OUT AND FILLING IN
INFORMATION.
I WANT TO END ON A DIFFERENT
NOTE.
I WILL PUT ON THE ELDER HAT FOR
A MOMENT.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN START HEALING
AND MOVING FORWARD IN THE CITY
AS WE ARE IN THE COUNTRY. I WAS
GOING THROUGH MY NOTES LAST
NIGHT FROM JUNE UNTIL NOW AND
EVERYTHING WE HAVE DEALT WITH.
I THINK WE HAVE GROWN A LOT AS
A CITY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE
REIMAGINE POLICE FORCE BUT ALSO
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC
SAFETY IN PLACE.
WHAT I WAS SAYING IS AGAIN
BLACK LIVES MATTER IS POWERFUL
AND PROFOUND.
IT'S NOT A SLOGAN.
IT DOES SPEAK TO THE TRUTH AND
THE HISTORY AND OUR LACK OF
HUMANITY NOT ONLY TO AFRICAN
AMERICANS BUT PEOPLE OF COLOR.
I JUST WANT TO SAY TO THE FOLKS
OUT THERE, WHEN YOU STAND UP
AND DO YOUR TERRITORIAL PLEDGE
TO THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, IT
ISN'T JUST WORDS.
IT'S ACTIONS.
IT'S HOW YOU BEHAVE.
IT'S HOW YOU RESPECT PEOPLE,
HOW YOU SEE HUMANITY IN OTHER
PEOPLE.
WHEN YOU SAY I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE ON INDIGENOUS LAND,
THAT MEANS YOU BEHAVE AS A
GUEST AND YOU LISTEN.
I WILL SAY THIS AND KIND OF
FOLLOW THE FOOTSTEPS OF
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WHEN SHE
SAID I MAY TAKE SLACK FOR THIS
AND I AM BEYOND TAKING SLACK
BECAUSE I HAVE GOTTEN OTHER
STUFF BY THIS AS WELL.
DEFUND POLICE BY 50% WAS A
SLOGAN, AN EMPTY MISLEADING
SLOGAN.
IT CAUSED DAMAGE.
IT CAUSED PAIN.
IT CAUSED TRAUMA.
IT CAUSED ANGER.
BUT I UNDERSTAND ASPIRATIONAL
EMOTIONAL FEELING OF WHY SOME
OF MY COLLEAGUES FELT THE NEED
TO DO THAT.
I HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.
I AM SAYING MOVING FORWARD, CAN
WE START USING THE WORDS ABOUT
HOW WE CHANGE, NOT HOW WE
FIGHT?
CAN WE START USING THE LANGUAGE
THAT WE SEE EACH OTHER, THAT IT
ISN'T ABOUT CALLING OUT PEOPLE,
ABOUT SAVING FACE?
CAN WE START TO SEE HUMANITY IN
EACH OTHER IN OUR CITY, IN OUR
COUNTRY, AND START HEALING?
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE POLICE,
IT IS ABOUT REDIRECTING FUNDS.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU AND
PARTICULARLY YOU COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA WHICH YOU AND I HAVE
TALKED ABOUT, AND I BELIEVE
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD BROUGHT
THIS UP AND COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ, WE HAVE REDUCED I
BELIEVE ABOUT 20% OF THE POLICE
BUDGET IN UNDER SIX MONTHS.
I DON'T THINK ANY OTHER CITY
HAS DONE THAT.
WE SHOULD STEP BACK FOR A
MOMENT AND SAYOC WE HAVE DONE
THAT.
NOW HOW DO WE GO FORWARD?
I LIKE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ SAID.
WHEN YOU UNDO THE TYPE OF
RACIST INSTITUTIONS, TAKE IT
FROM ME, THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR
A LONG TIME, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN
OVERNIGHT.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU
HAVE A CHANT IN A T-SHIRT.
IT'S BEING IN THE TRENCHES.
SOME OF US HAVE BEEN THERE FOR
A LONG TIME IN THE TRENCHES
MOVING FORWARD, MARCHING
TOWARDS A PLAN TO DO RIGHT BY
EVERYBODY.
WHEN COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ
TALKED ABOUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS
SYSTEMIC LAYERS OF
INSTITUTIONAL RACISM, THE
BARRIERS, THE PROCESSES AND
EVERYTHING THAT HAS KEPT US
FROM HAVING THE KIND OF
COMMUNITY POLICING THAT WE NEED
FOR EQUITY, THAT'S WHAT OUR
CHARGE IS RIGHT NOW GOING
FORWARD.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
DISMANTLING, WE HAVE TO
DISMANTLE AND REPLACE WITH
PROCESS AND PROCEDURES THAT
PROMOTE EQUITY AND HUMANITY AND
RECOGNITION THAT TRUE COMMUNITY
SAFETY BELONGS TO ALL OF US.
THE US AND THEM HAS GOT TO
STOP.
WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE HARD
WORK THAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS
STILL IN FRONT OF US.
A LOT OF THE CHANGES HAVE TO BE
BARGAINED.
I DON'T WANT ANOTHER LECTURE
ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE,
CENTERING.
I AM TOLD OF THE SLOGANS.
WHAT I REALLY WANT IS THE CITY
COUNCIL TO LISTEN TO THE
COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE BEEN,
AND ALSO LISTEN TO THE WHOLE
CITY ABOUT HOW WE MAKE OUR CITY
SAFER, HOW WE HAVE A POLICE
DEPARTMENT THAT REFLECTS OUR
VALUES, OUR HUMANITY WITHOUT
TEARING EACH OTHER DOWN.
IN MY LIFETIME I HAVE SEEN
THOSE INSTITUTIONAL CHANGES
THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
I WILL STOP MY LECTURE IN A
MOMENT.
I JUST WANT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT
THIS ENTITLEMENT OF OF I WANT
IT NOW, THAT'S NOT HOW THE
WORLD WORKS.
THE PRIVILEGE OR ENTITLEMENT OF
PRIVILEGE OF OF ENTITLEMENT,
THAT'S WHAT I CALL IT,
PRIVILEGE OF ENTITLEMENT, WE
ARE GOING TO SLOWLY AND
SYSTEMATICALLY AS MUCH AS WE
CAN REDIRECT FUNDS FROM SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT TO UP STREAM
PROGRAMS TO MEET NEEDS OF WHAT
A POLICE DEPARTMENT WE BELIEVE
SHOULD LOOK LIKE WITHIN
CONFINES OF CONSENT DECREE,
BARGAINING RESPONSIBILITIES,
AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY AND
SCREAM AT YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT
DOING ENOUGH, WE ARE DOING.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE
WORKING WITH THE EXECUTIVE.
I AM GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING.
I WILL CONTINUE LISTENING TO MY
COLLEAGUES.
I DON'T WANT TO CALL MY
COLLEAGUES OUT, DON'T WANT TO
CALL THEM NAMES.
I DON'T WANT TO SHAME THEM,
HUMILIATE THEM.
I WANT TO WORK WITH THEM.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HARD WORK
AND LETTING ME HAVE THIS MOMENT
TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBERS, I APPRECIATE
ALL THE COMMENTS FOLKS HAVE
MADE.
I AM GOING TO CALL THE
QUESTION.
WE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK
ABOUT THIS LATER TODAY.
I KNOW THIS IS PART OF THE
MACRO QUESTIONS THAT WE ARE
STEPPING BACK TO ANALYZE.
I AM GETTING MESSAGES FROM
CENTRAL STAFF THAT WE NEED TO
MOVE FORWARD TO GET THROUGH
THIS SO WE CAN GET TO OUR 2:00
P.M.
MEETING.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL
THE COMMENTS.
THERE WILL BE MORE DISCUSSION
THIS AFTERNOON.
MY STAFF SPENT A LOT OF TIME
WORKING WITH EACH OF YOUR
OFFICES TO BE SURE WE ARE
INCLUDING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN
THE BUDGET TO RIGHT HISTORIC
WRONGS AND MAKE INVESTMENT IN
HISTORIC WAYS THAT HAVE NEVER
BEEN DONE, TO RECOGNIZE THERE
IS A LOT OF HARM THAT NEEDS TO
BE UNDONE.
I FRESH APPRECIATE THAT FOLKS
ARE CONSIDERING THIS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I KNOW THIS NEW DATA WAS
IMPORTANT FOR ME TO REFLECT
BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS
HELPFUL THAT WE DIDN'T SHOW THE
IMBALANCE WHEN WE KNEW DATA ON
ATTRITIONS WAS GOING TO SHOW
THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE THE
SAME LEVEL OF ATTRITION AS WE
ANTICIPATED AND TO BE SURE THAT
WAS REFLECTED.
IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME
THAT WE HAD AN ACCURATE
DOCUMENT TO REFLECT WHERE WE
ARE IN THIS HISTORIC TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT,
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
ACCURATELY REFLECTING WHAT THE
LATEST ATTRITION NUMBER IS.
WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO AS
FOLKS HAVE SAID.
LET'S VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
VOTE ON COUNCIL BUDGET ACTION
SBD025B3002.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> NO.
>> SAWANT.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> JUAREZ.
>> AYES.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> AYES.
>> EIGHT IN FAVOR.
ONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
MOTION CARRIES AND COUNCIL
BUDGET ACTION IS APPROVED.
WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS ON OUR
LIST OF FIVE.
DO YOU WANT TO WALK US THROUGH
ITEM FOUR.
>> THANK YOU.
ITEM FOUR, BLG039A002
RECOMMENDS, CLERK FILE IS WHERE
ALL THE CITY COUNCIL CHANGES IN
2021 PROPOSED BUDGET WILL BE
MEMORIALIZED AS WELL AS CHANGES
TO 2021 TO 2026 PROPOSED
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
>> CHAIR.
>> OKAY.
LET'S TRY THAT AGAIN.
THANK YOU.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF COUNCIL
BUDGET ACTION BLG039A002.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> MOVED AND SECONDED.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
>> HEARING NONE, COUNCIL
MEMBERS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL ROLE
ON APPROVAL OF BLG039A002.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> AYES.
>> SAWANT.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> JUAREZ.
>> AYES.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> YES.
>> NINE IN FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
CBA IS APPROVED.
WE ARE ON OUR FINAL ITEM.
LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
>> THE FINAL COUNCIL BUDGET
ACTION BLG36A1.
THIS AMENDS AND PASSES AS
AMENDED COUNCIL BILL 119938,
2021 BUDGET ORDINANCE.
>> THIS IS IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF COUNCIL
BUDGET ACTION BLG036A001.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
TO APPROVE BLG036A001, ARE
THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> THANK YOU.
I AM ABSOLUTELY THRILLED FOR
ALL THE VICTORIES THAT THE
MOVEMENT HAS ACHIEVED, PEOPLE'S
BUDGET MOVEMENT ESPECIALLY AND
ALSO THE PROGRESS THAT IS BEING
MADE ON THE QUESTION OF THE
BLOATED POLICE BUDGET.
BUT I AM GOING TO BE VOTING NO
ON THIS BUDGET BECAUSE
FUNDAMENTALLY IT IS DEEPLY
AUSTERITY BUDGET WITH ALMOST
$200 MILLION IN CUTS FROM
VARIOUS NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY
FROM HOUSING TO SERVICES.
BUT I WILL BE RESERVING MY FULL
COMMENTS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL
VOTE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS?
ONE COMMENT, AS WE HAVE TALKED
ABOUT, I FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE
WITH THAT ANALYSIS BUT WE WILL
HAVE THE CONVERSATION LATER.
THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE FOR BLG036A001.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> AYES.
>> SAWANT.
>> NO.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> JUAREZ.
>> AYES.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> YES.
>> EIGHT IN FAVOR.
ONE OPPOSED.
>> MOTION CARRIES AND COUNCIL
BUDGET ACTION IS APPROVED.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR
LIST FOR THINGS THAT WE NEED TO
DISCUSS THIS MORNING?
>> I HAVE NOTHING ELSE ON MY
LIST.
>> OKAY.
I AM GOING TO SAVE MY LONG LIST
OF THANK YOUS FOR THIS
AFTERNOON.
>> THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
WITH THAT, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ OUR MEETING STARTS AT
2:00 P.M.
TODAY.
>> WE WILL START PROMPTLY AT
2:00 P.M.
AND WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST 20
MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> SOUNDS GOOD.
COLLEAGUES WE HAVE REACHED THE
END OF OUR SELECT BUDGET
COMMITTEE AGENDA NOT JUST FOR
TODAY BUT FOR THIS YEAR AS IT
RELATES TO 2021 BUDGET
DELIBERATIONS AND QUARTER 3
DELIBERATIONS.
APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU
HAVE DONE.
LET'S CARRY THIS INTO THE
AFTERNOON.
IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, WE WILL
BE ADJOURNED.
HEARING NO FURTHER ADDITIONAL
COMMENCE OR QUESTIONS, WE ARE
ADJOURNED AND THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
WE'LL SEE YOU AT 2:00.