>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER
24th , AND THIS SPECIAL FINANCE
AND HOUSING COMMITTEE WELCOME
TO ORDER, IT IS 2:02 P.M.
I'M TERESA MOSQUEDA, CHAIR OF
THE COMMITTEE.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL?
>> VICE-CHAIR LISA
HERBOLD?
COUNCIL PRESIDENT LORENA
GONZALEZ?
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW LEWIS?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER DAN STRAUSS?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCIL CHAIR TERESA
MOSQUEDA?
>> PRESENT.
>>FIVE PRESENT, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON OUR
AGENDA AND FOR THE CHAIR'S
REPORT I'LL GO OVER THEM VERY
BRIEFLY BEFORE MOVING TO AMEND
THE AGENDA SLIGHTLY.
WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE COVID-
19 RENTAL ASSISTANCE
HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AND
HOMEOWNERSHIP PROGRAMS AND
SERVICES OFFERED BY THE CITY IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS.
WE'LL HEAR FROM EMILY ALVARADO,
DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF HOUSING,
AND LAUREN McGOWAN, SENIOR
DIRECTOR OF UNITED WAY OF KING
COUNTY AND FROM MICHELLE
MERIWEATHER, CEO OF THE URBAN
LEAGUE METROPOLITAN SEATTLE.
WE HAVE A BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE VOTE ON
THE LOYAL HEIGHTS TRANSFER
PROPERTY.
WE WILL HEAR FROM ERIKA MALONE
AND DANIEL MURILLO OF OFFICE OF
HOUSING AND FROM TRACI
RATZLIFF, OUR VERY OWN CENTRAL
STAFF AND LASTLY WE WILL
CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION AND
HAVE A POSSIBLE VOTE ON A
SUBSTITUTE VERSION OF THE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
MINIMUM LABOR AND COMPENSATION
STANDARDS ORDINANCE.
THIS IS THE CONTINUATION OF THE
CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD NOT
JUST LAST WEEK BUT BEGAN PRIOR
TO BREAK AS WELL.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR
FROM DR. BAKER OF UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON ON SOME AREAS RELAT
ED TO CLEANLINESS, NOT JUST
CLEANING DURING COVID TIMES,
BUT THE ONGOING NEW REALITY OF
TRYING TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF
DISEASES AND INSURE SAFE PUBLIC
HEALTH OPPORTUNITIES FOR RIDERS
AND DRIVERS.
WE WILL HEAR FROM KARINA BULL
FROM CENTRAL STAFF AND KEREM
LEVITAS FROM OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS WHO WILL BE ABLE TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS GOING THROUGH
THE PROPOSED SUBSTITUTE THAT'S
BEEN SENT TO YOU.
THE CALL IS GIVEN THAT DR.
BAKER FROM UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON HAS AN APPOINTMENT
MIDWAY THROUGH OUR MEETING AND
AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS
TO GO A LITTLE BIT EARLY TODAY.
I AM INTERESTED IN MOVING ITEM
NUMBER THREE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE
AND I WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE
MOTIONS HERE.
WE WILL GET THROUGH ALL OF THE
ITEMS STILL, BUT THAT JUST
MEANS MOVING THE TRANSPORTATION
NETWORK COMPANY DRIVER LABOR
PROTECTIONS TO ITEM NUMBER ONE
AND WE WOULD CONTINUE WITH THE
AGENDA.
SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT I MOVE
TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
ADOPT THE AGENDA.
IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA WILL BE AMENDED TO
REORDER THE AGENDA TO CONSIDER
ITEM NUMBER THREE AS THE FIRST
ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
HEAR
HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA IS AMENDED.
HEAR NOTHING OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA IS ADOPTED.
WE WILL GO IN THE FOLLOWING
ORDER, ITEM NUMBER THREE, THEN
ONE, THEN TWO.
THANKS TO THE OFFICE OF LABOR
AND OFFICE OF HOUSING FOLKS,
ESPECIALLY FOR OUR OFFICE OF
HOUSING FOLKS FOR STAYING ON
THE LINE AS WE GET THROUGH THAT
FIRST PRESENTATION.
AT THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE TO
PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR SIGNING UP.
AS FOLKS KNOW, WE ARE
ENDEAVORING TO DO OUR BEST TO
GET THROUGH AS MUCH PUBLIC
COMMENT AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY
MEETING REMOTELY.
I AM GOING TO TRY TO GET
THROUGH EVERYONE ON OUR LIST.
AT THIS POINT WE HAVE 46 PEOPLE
SIGNED UP.
WE WILL SPEND THE NEXT 40, 45
MINUTES ON PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
EVERYBODY WILL HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF YOU'RE
HERE.
WE WILL GIVE FOLKS ONE MINUTE
TO TESTIFY.
SO PLEASE AMEND YOUR COMMENTS
ACCORDINGLY.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A
MINOR GLITCH IN LAST WEEK'S
PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
YOU DID NOT GET THE CHANCE TO
TESTIFY, WE WOULD DEFINITELY
LIKE TO HEAR YOU TODAY AND I'LL
MAKE SURE WE ARE DOUBLE
CHECKING OUR LIST BEFORE WE GET
THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
FOLKS, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE
LIST IN THE ORDER IN WHICH
FOLKS APPEARED AND I WILL TRY
TO BE CONSCIOUS OF ANYBODY WHO
DID NOT GET TO TESTIFY LAST
WEEK.
OUR I.T.
TEAM IS BUSY WORKING ON MAKE
SURE ANY RESTRICTIONS OR
BARRIERS THAT ARE PRESENTING
THEMSELVES, THAT WE CAN WORK
THOSE OUT.
DO NOTE YOUR LINE ON THE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY LINE WILL ALREADY
HAVE YOU MUTED.
SO YOU NEED TO PUSH STAR 6 TO
UNMUTE YOURSELF.
IN ADDITION TO WHAT OUR I.T.
TEAM WILL BE DOING TO UNMUTE
YOU ON OUR END.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL
GO FOR AT LEAST 40 TO 45
MINUTES.
I WILL CALL THREE SPEAKERS AT A
TIME.
AGAIN, PLEASE PUSH STAR 6 WHEN
YOU HEAR ME SAY YOUR NAME IN
ADVANCE SO YOU ARE READY TO GO.
IF YOU HAVE NOT REGISTERED TO
SPEAK, YOU CAN STYLE SIGN UP
FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY BY GOING
TO THE WEBSITE
SEATTLE.GOV/COUNCIL.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT LINK IS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA.
PLEASE BEGIN SPEAKING BY
STATING YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM
YOU'RE ADDRESSING.
PLEASE DO KEEP YOUR ITEMS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA.
YOU WILL HEAR A TEN SECOND TIME
BEFORE YOUR ALLOTTED TIME IS UP
AND THEN WE WILL ASK YOU TO
DIAL INTO THE LISTEN IN LINE OR
WATCH ON THE SEATTLE CHANNEL OR
THE ONLINE STREAMING OPTION.
ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE LIST IF
FOR SOME REASON YOU WEREN'T
ABLE TO STAY WITH US OR WEREN'T
ABLE TO GET IN IN TIME, YOU CAN
EMAIL US.
PLEASE EMAIL TERESA.MONTHS COULD
TERESA MOSQUEDA@SEATTLE.GOV.
NICOLE,GOODAFTERNOONANDWELCOME.
NICOLE, GOOD AFTERNOON AND
WELCOME.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
úTHIS IS NICOLE GRANT FROM MLK
LABOR AND I AM TESTIFYING TODAY
IN SUPPORT OF THE MINIMUM LABOR
AND COMPENSATION ORDINANCE.
THIS IS A MAJOR PRIORITY FOR
KING COUNTY'S LABOR MOVEMENT
AND IT IS OUR HOPE IT WILL BE
VOTED TODAY WITH COUNCILWOMAN
SUBSTITUTE LANGUAGE AS WRITTEN
WITH NO CHANGES.
I WANT TO TAKE THE REST OF MY
TIME TO THANK ALL OF THE
COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THEIR
LEADERSHIP OVER THE YEARS ON
THIS AS WELL AS THE MAYOR, THE
THOUSANDS OF DRIVERS WHO WORKED
ON THIS POLICY AND THE 65 PLUS
MEMBERS OF THE FAIR SHARE
COALITION.
DRIVERS HAVE FAMILIES LIKE ALL
OF US.
THEY ARE STRUGGLING WITH WHAT
EVERYBODY ELSE IS WHETHER IT'S
DISTANCE LEARNING FOR THEIR
KIDS OR PUTTING FOOD ON THEIR
TABLE.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE TREATED LIKE
AN UNDERCLASS IN THEIR PAY IT.
IS TIME FOR THIS LEGISLATION TO
MOVE FORWARD.
IT IS MORAL, RIGHT AND TIMELY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NICOLE.
DON, GOOD AFTERNOON.
DON CLEARY, ARE YOU WITH US?
>> HELLO?
>> HI.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> YES.
MY NAME IS DON CLEARY WITH THE
DRIVERS UNION CALLING IN
SUPPORT FOR THE FAIR PAY
LEGISLATION.
WHY DO DRIVERS NEED MORE PAY?
I'LL GIVE YOU A REAL QUICK
PERSONAL REASON FROM MY LIFE.
TWO WEEKS AGO I TOOK MY CAR IN
TO HAVE A CATALYTIC CONVERTER
REPLACED, EXPENSIVE ENOUGH AS
IT IS.
BY THE TIME I GOT OUT OF THE
SHOP THERE WAS A BRAKE JOB AND
FRONT STRUTS REQUIRED AS WELL,
$2,700.
NOW THE TNC UBER AND LYFT
MILEAGE AND MINUTE RATES DON'T
COME ANYWHERE NEAR COVERING
THOSE KIND OF COSTS WHICH ARE
COMMON WHEN YOU START DRIVING
YOUR CAR EVERY DAY
COMMERCIALLY.
SO THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL IS A
BIG STEP TOWARDS REMEDYING
THIS.
HOWEVER, THE MODEST PROPOSAL
THAT THE DRIVERS UNION HAVE
MADE TO INCREASE THAT PAY A
LITTLE BIT MORE WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD YOU FOLKS
HAVE THE POWER IN DOING THIS TO
PULL THOUSANDS OF SEATTLE
WORKERS INTO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
I MEAN THIS IS A FINE MOMENT ,
A MOMENT OF BOLDNESS AND POWER.
PLEASE SEIZE IT.
THANKS A LOT.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
JAKE LINDSAY, GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> HELLO.
>> HI.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> HI.
MY NAME IS JAKE.
I'VE BEEN AN UBER AND LYFT
DRIVER SINCE 2016 AND
VOLUNTEERING WITH DRIVERS UNION
SINCE 2019 AND WANTED TO PARROT
WHAT MY BROTHER DON SAID.
SINCE I BEGAN DRIVING THE
COMPANIES ONLY V ONLY EVER CUT
OUR PAY AS THEY TAKE MORE AND
MORE FOR THEMSELVES.
IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE THESE
COMPANIES HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH
CUTTING OUR PAY FOR SO LONG.
THIS IS ESPECIALLY UNACCEPTABLE
DURING THE PANDEMIC WHERE WE
WORK A FRONT LINE ESSENTIAL
SERVICE MOVING PEOPLE AND
GOODS.
THE COST OF CLEANING OUR
VEHICLES WAS HIGH BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC.
NOW IT IS EVEN HIGHER.
WE SHOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR
THIS PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE THAT
WE PROVIDED SO LONG FOR FREE AT
HUGE RISKS TO OURSELVES AND OUR
LOVED ONES.
UBER AND LYFT DRIVING IS ALSO A
JOB WORKED DISPROPORTIONATELY
BY IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE OF
COLOR AND THIS COMMUNITY IS
ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE RIGHT
NOW.
SO I URGE YOU TO RAISE OUR PAY
EVEN FURTHER THAN THE MAYOR
SUGGESTED IN HER PROPOSAL TO
MAKE UP FOR THE YEARS OF PAY
CUTS THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS
SUFFERED.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
MICHAEL WOLFF, WELCOME.
>> HI.
THIS IS MICHAEL WOLFF,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DRIVE
FORWARD.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR WE'RE
TESTIFYING TODAY AGAINST THIS
LEGISLATION NOT BECAUSE WE
DON'T SUPPORT INCREASED PAY
THROUGH A MINIMUM EARNINGS
STANDARD FOR DRIVERS, BUT WE
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS
LEGISLATION WHICH IS A COPYCAT
OF NEW YORK'S LEGISLATION DOES
NOT ACTUALLY WORK.
HAVING THE
ONGOING CALCULATION OF
UTILIZATION RATE FORCES
COMPANIES TO RESTRICT ACCESS
AND FREEDOM OF DRIVERS TO
ACCESS THEIR PATHS.
THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR DRIVERS.
WE WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL TO
REMOVE THE ONGOING CALCULATIONS
OF THE UTILIZATION RATE IN THE
EARNINGS STANDARD.
OTHERWISE KEEP EVERYTHING THE
SAME.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THE
UTILIZATION RATE CALCULATION.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
THE NEXT THREE PEOPLE ARE
ZACARIA JARTO RICHO UMRA AND
ALBIA. Z ACARIA, PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
DO WE HAVE ZACARIA WITH US?
OKAY.
THE NEXT PERSON IS RIC I'LL
COME BACK TO YOU, ZACARIA, IF
YOU'RE STILL ON THE LINE.
>> HI, CITY COUNCIL.
TODAY I'M PRESENTING MY DRIVER
UNION FOR SUPPORT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT BEFORE
THIS COVID-19 ME AND MY HUSBAND
WERE WORKING FOR UBER AND LYFT,
BUT NOW AS THIS PANDEMIC STARTS
I'M NOT ABLE TO WORK ANYMORE.
MY KIDS ARE NOT GOING SCHOOL
AND EVEN MY YOUNGER DAUGHTER IS
VERY VULNERABLE, BUT STILL WE
DON'T HAVE ANY OPTIONS.
SO NOW ONLY MY HUSBAND WORKS
FOR US.
HE HAS TO WORK ALMOST 12 HOURS
IN DRIVING BECAUSE AFTER EVERY
CALL HE HAS TO SPEND TIME TO
SANITIZE, TO CLEAN HIS CAR FOR
THE SAFETY OF CUSTOMERS AND FOR
HIS OWN FAMILY.
MY KIDS REALLY MISS HIM BECAUSE
MY HUSBAND HAS TO SPEND ALL DAY
OUT BECAUSE WHEN HE COMES HOME,
HE'S SO TIRED AND AT THAT TIME
MY KIDS ALREADY SLEEP.
SO MY HUMBLE REQUEST, PLEASE
RAISE OUR PAY SO WE CAN EARN
ENOUGH MONEY FOR OUR COST OF
LIVING AND ALSO SPEND TIME WITH
OUR KIDS, TOO, AND OUR FAMILY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF ZACARIA
IS WITH US AGAIN.
HI.
JUST PUSH STAR 6 TO UNMUTE,
PLEASE.
WELCOME.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
>> YES.
THANK YOU.
>> HELLO.
>> WE CAN HEAR YOU.
>> MY NAME IS ZACHARIAH.
I HAVE BEEN UBER AND LYFT
DRIVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
FOR ALL THOSE YEARS I'VE WORKED
FOR UBER AND LYFT A THIRD OF MY
EARNINGS HAVE GONE TO UBER AND
LYFT IN THE FORMS OF COMMISSION
AND BOOKING FEES WHILE I'M
PAYING ALL THE EXPENSES IN THE
FORMS OF THE INSURANCE,
MAINTENANCE, CAR PAYMENTS AND
GAS, NOT TO MENTION THE WEAR
AND TEAR OF MY VEHICLE.
WITH THE CURRENT PAY I'M
EARNING WELL BELOW MINIMUM
WAGE.
2019 I HAVE DRIVEN OVER 70
MILES, WORKED AT LEAST 80 HOURS
A WEEK.
I'M STILL BELOW STANDARD WAGE.
FOR MOST OF THE DRIVERS WE ARE
ON THE ROAD, NOT ABLE TO SPEND
WITH OUR FAMILY AND STILL
EARNING BELOW MINIMUM WAGE.
I WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL
MEMBERS TO CONSIDER FAIR PAY
AND RAISING THE STANDARD WAGE
FOR GIG DRIVERS, PLEASE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
FAUNA ABRIEL?
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES, THANK YOU.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> SURE.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS FAUNA ABRIEL.
I'M A DRIVER AND PART OF THE
UNION.
MY AGENDA TODAY IS ABOUT THE
FAIR PAY.
ONE OF THE REASONS I'M ASKING
FOR FAIR PAY TODAY IS TO GIVE
MY KIDS FAMILY TIME WITH THEIR
DAD.
AS A DRIVER HE DRIVES SEVEN
DAYS A WEEK MORE THAN 12 HOURS.
LATELY HE EVEN DRIVES MORE TO
WELCOME OUR NEW CHILD.
THE OTHER REASON THAT I AM
ASKING OTHER THAN THE COST OF
LIVING IN SEATTLE IS TO GIVE MY
KIDS A CHRISTMAS PRESENT.
THEY ALWAYS WRITE WHAT THEY
WANT FOR CHRISTMASES PRESENTS,
BUT THEY NEVER GET WHAT THEY
ASK, NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE
ASKING EXPENSIVE STUFF, BUT OUR
BUDGET IS VERY TIGHT.
AS A PARENT, THAT'S VERY TOUGH
TO SEE WHEN YOU DON'T FULFILL
YOUR KIDS' NEEDS.
AT LEAST FOR CHRISTMAS SINCE
THEY NEVER HAD FAMILY TIME OR
VACATION TIME.
EVEN THOUGH WE ARE A DRIVER, I
BELIEVE OUR KIDS DESERVE A
BETTER LIFE.
SO PLEASE BE OUR KIDS'
HAPPINESS BY FIGHTING FOR FAIR
PAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
THE NEXT THREE PEOPLE ARE HALEY
PUNN, ABRAHAM AVITAS AND ALLIE
SULLIVAN.
PLEASE PUSH STAR 6. UNMUTE
YOURSELF NOW SO YOU'RE READY TO
GO.
GOOD AFTERNOON, HALEY.
>> HI, MY NAME IS HALEY PUNN.
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF
RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM ME THIS
MORNING VERY PASSIONATELY
SAYING THAT I AM AGAINST THE
ORDINANCE IN THE FACT THAT I
DEMANDED YOU GUYS TO TAKE OUT
THE $1.17 PER MILE ORDINANCE.
MY SECOND WAS AS MICHAEL WOLFF
IS SAYING, IS SOMETHING THAT IS
GOING TO BE QUITE TOXIC IN THE
LONG RUN FOR THE VIABILITY FOR
WHICH WE ARE TO STAY.
I'M FOR FAIR PAY.
I AM FOR THE 16.39 TO GO
THROUGH, BUT I DO NOT STAND FOR
SOMETHING THAT WILL LITERALLY
SHIFT THE VERY BUSINESS MODELS
THAT LYFT AND UBER PROVIDE
CURRENTLY FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE.
THIS $1.17 WILL MAKE IT WHERE
WE HAVE TO SIGN UP IN BLOCKS
AND TAKES AWAY OUR FREEDOM TO
DRIVE WHEN WE WANT TO AND I
THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
SOLVE CAN BE SIMPLY SOLVED IN A
DIFFERENT SOLUTION AND I DO NOT
WANT THIS TO PASS BECAUSE OF
THAT.
PLEASE TAKE IT OUT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME TODAY.
ABRAHAM, WELCOME.
ABRAHAM, JUST PUSH STAR 6.
THERE YOU GO.
>> HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS,
CITY OF SEATTLE, MY NAME IS
ABRAHAM AVITAS, DRIVING FOR
UBER SINCE JULY 2012 AND
BRIEFLY FOR LYFT AND I TALK TO
YOU ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO
TALK ABOUT THE FAIR PAY
LEGISLATION.
HERE'S WHY I BELIEVE.
THE INCOME I WAS MAKING WHERE I
DRIVE I WAS ABLE TO SUPPORT MY
FAMILY OF FIVE AND MYSELF.
TODAY IT'S INCREASED RENT AND
EXPENSES AND WITH THE SAME
INCOME TODAY I'M FINDING IT
INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO MAKE
IT MONTH TO MONTH.
I WAS FORCED OUT WITH COVID-19.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY SAVINGS THAT
I COULD HAVE USED TO COVER MY
EXPENSES.
THEREFORE, I HAD TO DEFAULT ALL
MY MONTHLY PAYMENTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> HI.
PLEASE GO AHEAD, STAR 6.
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, STAR 6. GO
AHEAD.
THANK YOU.
>> HI.
MY NAME IS ALI SULLIVAN.
WE NEED A FAIR PAY.
A LOT HAPPENED THIS YEAR.
WE LOST OUR DRIVERS.
WE ALL NEED -- WE CONSIDER OUR
SOLID FRONT LINE WORKERS, VERY
EXPENSIVE.
WE NEED A FAIR RAISE BECAUSE
WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL, CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE DRIVERS POWER IS NOT
REPRESENTED HERE.
OUR VOICE AND OUR RIGHTS.
I SUPPORT THE UNION DRIVERS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THE NEXT THREE SPEAKERS ARE
ANTHONY LURAY, TERESA BOWMAN
AND EDDIE NASALU.
PLEASE PUSH STAR 6 TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF.
ANTHONY, GOO AFTERNOON.
HI, ANTHONY.
I CAN SEE YOU.
WE JUST NEED YOU TO PUSH STAR
6, I BELIEVE, TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF.
OKAY, ANTHONY, I'LL COME BACK
TO YOU.
THE NEXT PERSON IS TERESA.
TERESA, PUSH STAR 6 AND PLEASE
SPEAK.
TERESA, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
IF SO, PLEASE PUSH STAR 6 AND
GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.
>> HI.
AM I GOOD NOW?
>> YES, THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME'S TERESA.
I'M A WOMAN OF COLOR FROM THE
PHILIPPINES AND CAME TO
WASHINGTON TO WORK HERE AND I'M
OPPOSED TO THIS ORDINANCE.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PEOPLE
MAKING A LIVABLE WAGE, BUT JUST
THE TERMS IN HERE JUST
FORECASTING IT WOULD BANKRUPT
THE COMPANY.
SO IF LYFT AND UBER GO DOWN,
THAT MEANS THAT WOULD BE
THOUSANDS OF JOBLESS DRIVERS
AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
STRANDED PEOPLE.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE MY
TESTIMONY WITH DRIVING PART
TIME TO PAY OFF DEBT.
I ALSO USE IT TO OFFSET MY
BUSINESS EXPENSES.
I USED TO HAVE A BUSINESS IN
SEATTLE, BUT DUE TO THE SUMMER
WE HAD TO LEAVE JUST DUE TO
VANDALISM AND THEFT, BUT I
TYPICALLY AVERAGED35 TO $40 AN
HOUR PRECOVID, ON REALLY GOOD
DAYS $60 AN HOUR.
NO ONE MADE ME BUY A CAR.
NO ONE HAS EVER TREATED ME
UNDERCLASS AND ALL OF MY
EXPENSES ARE MET RIGHT OFTEN.
IF IT'S A TRAINING ISSUE, I'VE
ALWAYS FOUND HELP.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE A
WIN/WIN WITH THIS ORDINANCE,
I'D LOVE TO HELP OUT.
>> THANK YOU, TERESA.
THE NEXT PERSON IS EDDIE AND
THEN I'LL GO BACK TO ANTHONY.
UNLESS ANTHONY IS READY TO GO,
YOU'RE WELCOME TO AS WELL.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.
>> HI.
>> HI, EDDIE.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS EDDIE NASULU AND I'M
HERE TO SUPPORT TMC.
I REPRESENT WASHINGTON STATE
COALITION OF AFRICAN COMMUNITY
LEADERS.
WE'RE PROUD TO SUPPORT UBER AND
LYFT DRIVERS WHO ARE STANDING
UP FOR A LIVING WAGE.
MOST OF THESE DRIVERS YOU MAY
NOT KNOW, THEY COME FROM SOME
SMALL COUNTRIES IN AFRICA LIKE
ZAMBIA, MALAWI, UGANDA,
TANZANIA, SOME COUNTRIES YOU
PROBABLY NEVER HEARD BEFORE AND
ALL OVER THE CONTINENT OF
AFRICA.
WE DO APPRECIATE YOU COUNCIL
MEMBERS WHO ARE TAKING THIS
STAND FOR FAIRNESS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US TIME TO
SPEAK.
>> OF COURSE.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN.
ANTHONY, YOU ARE UP NEXT.
HELLO.
ANTHONY, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME,
JUST PUSH STAR 6. I CAN SEE
YOU'RE ON THE LINE, BUT IT
LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE STILL MUTED.
OH, WE HAD YOU FOR A SECOND.
TRY ONE MORE TIME.
THERE WE GO.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
TO THAT YES, THANK YOU,
ANTHONY.
>> YES.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
I'M STANDING IN FOR CARRIE
HURD.
SHE HAS A SITUATION SLIGHTLY
DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE
OTHER FOLKS HERE.
SHE WORKS ANOTHER JOB AS A
RETAIL CLERK.
IF THIS PROPOSITION GOES
THROUGH, SHE WILL NOT BE ABLE
TO FINANCIALLY SURVIVE BECAUSE
SHE WORKS AS A LYFT AND UBER
DRIVER PART TIME AND THE ONLY
WAY THAT FOLKS IN HER SHOES CAN
SURVIVE LIVING IN SEATTLE ARE
TO LIKE SHE DOES, SHE WORKS
PART TIME.
SHE DRIVES UBER PART TIME.
THAT'S HER CONCERN.
SHE IS DEFINITELY FOR UBER
DRIVERS, LYFT DRIVERS MAKING
MORE MONEY, BUT SHE IS
CONCERNED THAT FOR HER AND
THOUSANDS OF OTHERS LIKE HER,
SHE WILL NOT SURVIVE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO THE NEXT THREE SPEAKERS ARE
GOING TO BE ADAMA DURQUE,
JACKIE MORRIS AND TRACY
HARRELL.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ADAMA FROM A WEST
AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
I HAVE SIX KIDS AND I WORK PART
TIME FOR UBER AND LYFT TO TRY
TO SUPPORT MY FAMILY.
WE NEED A PAY RAISE OR WE NEED
A FAIR PAY.
SOME WAY WE NEED LIVING COST
RISES IN SEATTLE AND NOW WE'RE
GETTING CUT AND CUT AND THE
MORE CUTS WE GET FROM UBER AND
LYFT.
WE CANNOT SUPPORT OUR HIGH COST
MAINTENANCE AND OUR FAMILY
NEEDS.
PLEASE, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE
NEED YOUR HELP.
WE NEED YOUR HELP, JUST A
LIVING WAGE TO BE ABLE TO COVER
OUR BILLS AND PAY AND SUPPORT
OUR FAMILY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THE NEXT PERSON IS JACKIE.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS JACKIE MORRIS.
I'VE BEEN A GIG WORKER MOST OF
MY ADULT LIFE.
I'VE BEEN A RIDESHARE DRIVER
SINCE 2013 AND IN VARIOUS OTHER
FORMS.
I'M ALSO PART-TIME EMPLOYEE OF
DRIVE FORWARD AS THE ENGAGEMENT
DIRECTOR.
MY JOB IS TO LISTEN TO THE
COMMUNITY AND DISCOVER, YOU
KNOW, WHAT THE EXPERIENCE IS
LIKE OF BEING OUT ON THE ROAD.
I'LL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY
EXPERIENCE AND OUR OVER 2,000
MEMBERS THAT WE ARE IN SUPPORT
OF A MINIMUM EARNINGS
STANDARDS.
THE HINGING POINT HERE IS THE
UTILIZATION RATE.
WE'RE CRYING OUT DON'T REPEAT
NEW YORK IN SEATTLE BECAUSE
THAT UTILIZATION RATE AFFECTS
THE ALGORITHM TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE COST OF RIDES FOR THE
CONSUMERS IS AFFORDABLE.
AND ALSO YOU WOULD BE REMISS
NOT TO LISTEN TO THE CORNELL
STUDY OVERSEEN BY LOUIS HYMAN.
THIS IS A HISTORICAL STUDY THAT
HAS EVERY DATA YOU EVER ASKED
FOR FROM THE COMPANIES IS AT
YOUR FINGERTIPS.
PLEASE CONTINUE THE
CONVERSATION.
CONSIDER THE CORNELL STUDY
BEFORE YOU APPROVE ANYTHING AND
WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO A MINIMUM
EARNING STANDARD IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
GOOD DAY.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THE NEXT IS TRACY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, TRACY.
TRACY WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
MOHAMMAD YOUSSEF, AHMED ALIJILI
AND FRANCIS CAMO.
TRACY, HELLO.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
SORRY ABOUT THAT, TRACY.
>> AWESOME.
HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK
YOU.
THIS IS TRACY HARRELL AND I AM
CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE FAIR
PAY LEGISLATION.
I AM PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL
BLACK MBA SEATTLE CHAPTER AND
WE ARE CELEBRATING 50 YEARS IN
OUR COMMUNITY AS AN
ORGANIZATION AND ACROSS THE
NATION FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC AND
INTELLECTUAL ENVIRONMENT.
THERE'S TONS OF RESEARCH AS
RECENTLY REFERENCED.
SO I DON'T NEED TO SHARE
ADDITIONAL CONTENT, BUT YOU'VE
HEARD COMPELLING PERSONAL
TESTIMONY AS WELL.
AS OPPOSED TO ADDING NEW
INFORMATION, I WOULD LIKE TO
ASK THE COUNCIL TO LOOK
INTERNALLY.
DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE IN
ACHIEVING RACIAL EQUITY AND
INCLUSION IN BUSINESS AND IN
WEALTH AND HEALTH AND IF YOUR
ANSWER IS YES, IT'S REALLY IN
THESE MOMENTS OF TRUTH THAT YOU
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALIGN
WHAT YOU SAY TO WHAT YOU DO.
IT'S WITH THESE TANGIBLE
ACTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE LIVES FOR
THE BETTER.
SO TODAY I SIMPLY ASK YOU TO
VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE AND DO THE
RIGHT THING.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
WONDERFUL.
HELLO.
>> HELLO.
GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE
COUNCIL MEMBERS, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS ISMAIL MOHAMMAD.
I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME
OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY.
I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE UNION FOR
DRIVERS FAIR SHARE.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING SINCE 2016
TO MAKE ENDS MEET, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY UBER AND LYFT
KEEP CUTTING PAY FOR DRIVERS.
AS WE ALL KNOW, THE COST OF
LIVING KEEP GOING UP, EXAMPLE
LIKE OUR RENT, MAINTENANCE OF
OUR VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, TAKING
CARE OF OUR FAMILY TO OTHER
THINGS THAT WE STRUGGLE TO
PROVIDE FOR OUR WELL-BEING IN
THE COMMUNITY.
SO MOST DRIVERS STRUGGLE AND
WORK LONG HOURS BUT STILL
CANNOT MAKE A DECENT LIVING
WAGE.
AS WE ALL KNOW, DURING THE
EPIDEMIC WE DRIVE AND STRUGGLE
TO MAINTAIN AND CLEAN SO THE
GENERAL PUBLIC CAN BE SAFE.
HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT
WOULD BE AN HONOR TO FIGHT FOR
MY FELLOW DRIVERS TO IMPROVE
THEIR LIVING STANDARDS.
I PLEAD TO YOU TO STOP UBER AND
LYFT FROM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
DRIVERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOHAMMAD, GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME'S MOHAMMAD JASU AND I'M
SUPPORTING DRIVERS UNION PLAN.
IT'S ALWAYS ON THE DISCUSSION
TABLE AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN
THIS IS GOING TO BE OVER OR
FINALIZED.
WE STARTED THIS FIGHT FOR A
FAIR SHARE PAY 2014 IN ORDER
FOR THE DRIVERS TO EARN A
BETTER LIVING AND A BETTER
DECENT LIVING WAGE.
I KNOW THE MAJORITY OF DRIVERS
DEPEND ON THE FAIR SHARE PLAN
AND MOST OF THEM ARE AFRICAN
IMMIGRANTS.
NO BETTER TIME THAN NOW FOR
DRIVERS TO RECEIVE THE MINIMUM
WAGE AND I KNOW THIS
LEGISLATION IS UNDER CITY HALL.
PLEASE SUPPORT US FOR THIS
LEGISLATION TO BE A LAW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AHMED ALI JILI, GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> HELLO, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS AHMED.
I HAVE BEEN AN UBER DRIVER
SINCE 2014.
I HAVE A FAMILY AND WITH THE
CURRENT RATE I CANNOT SUPPORT
MY FAMILY AND PAY THE BILLS.
THIS IS WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF
FAIR WAGE STABILIZATION.
WHEN I STARTED DRIVING UBER,
THE COMMISSION UBER WAS TAKING
FROM THE DRIVERS WAS 5%.
NOW THE COMMISSION OF UBER AND
LYFT FROM DRIVERS IS HIGHER AND
THE COST OF LIVING HAS GONE UP.
DRIVERS NEVER GET A RAISE.
PLEASE SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
FRANCIS, GOOD AFTERNOON.
JUST STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
AFTER FRANCIS WILL BE MOHAMMAD
ALI, P APA GUERRERO AND CHICO
GUEREZ.
>> HELLO.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS FRANCE GUMO.
I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE
HUGE EXPENSE UBER DRIVERS
OCCUR.
WE GET 100 RIDES EVERY WEEK AND
OUT OF EACH RIDE UBER AND LYFT
TAKE $2 BOOKING FEE WHICH THEY
SAY GOES TO US INSURANCE.
THAT MEANS IN A MONTH WE HAVE
PAID IN ABOUT $800 ON INSURANCE
ONLY.
ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE TO GET
INSURANCE FOR VEHICLES WHICH
ADD TO ANOTHER 300 TO 400.
THAT MAKES INSURANCE EXPENSIVE
PER MONTH.
SO IF YOU CAN HELP US WITH THIS
INSURANCE ISSUE, IT CAN HELP US
AND MORE WITHOUT INCREASING
WHAT UBER AND LYFT TRY TO TAKE
FROM US.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
MOHAMMAD, GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> HELLO, MOHAMMAD.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
JUST STAR 6 TO UNMUTE.
HI THERE.
>> YES.
HI, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS MUHAMMAD ALI.
I AM UBER AND LYFT DRIVER.
I SUPPORT DRIVER UNION FAIR
SHARE PLAN.
THE REASON WHY, I START DRIVING
UBER AND LYFT SINCE 2014 AND
THEY USED TO PUT DOWN THE FARE
PRICE, YOU KNOW.
THEY KEPT GOING DOWN WHILE THE
COST OF LIVING WAS GOING UP.
SO WE ARE ASKING LEGISLATION TO
BE PASSED AND THE RATE WE'LL
RECEIVE ENOUGH MONEY BECAUSE
IT'S NOT SAFE JOB, YOU KNOW.
EVERY TIME GOING DOWN.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PAPA, YOU ARE UP NEXT.
JUST STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> HI.
MY NAME IS PAPA DORA.
I'M AN UBER AND LYFT DRIVER
SINCE 2014.
THANK YOU TO LET ME SPEAK.
WE HAVE WHAT WE CAN SAY LIKE
90% OF OUR UBER AND LYFT
DRIVERS DON'T HAVE INSURANCE
BECAUSE IT COST AN AWFUL LOT IN
SEATTLE.
I
SUPPORT THE UNION FOR THE FAIR
SHARE RIDE BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T
HAVE IT, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS
TO ANYONE OR YOUR FAMILY, YOU
DON'T HAVE NOTHING, NOTHING TO
SUPPORT THEM.
THAT'S MY WORRY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS KAKO BUDITCH WITH
TRANSPORTATION COALITION AND
I'M SPEAKING OF A BROAD
COALITION FROM OVER 65
ORGANIZATIONS FROM UNIONS,
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITIES, SAFE
AND NEIGHBORHOOD ORGS.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE FAIR
SHARE PLAN TO RAISE DRIVER PAY.
THIS IS CRITICAL LABOR
PROTECTION AND SOMETHING WE CAN
DO NOW TO IMPROVE PEOPLE'S
LIVES.
RAISING PAY WOULD ADDRESS
RACIAL INEQUALITY AND LOW WAGES
IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT WOULD
BE YET ANOTHER WAY FOR SEATTLE
TO LEAD THE NATION ON
PROGRESSIVE LABOR PROTECTION AS
WE HAVE DONE WITH PAID SICK
LEAVE, THE MINIMUM WAGE AND
MORE.
SO PLEASE STAND WITH THE BROAD
COALITION OF ADVOCATES AND
SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION AND
LET'S FINISH THIS JOB AND
INSURE THAT UBER AND LYFT
DRIVERS IN OUR CITY CAN EARN A
LIVING WAGE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
THE NEXT THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE
PRESENT ARE ESA, MUWI AND
RICHARD.
ESA, GOOD AFTERNOON.
ESA, SORRY, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU
YET, IF YOU COULD PUSH STAR 6
TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
ESA, I'M GOING TO GO ON TO THE
NEXT PERSON.
WHEN I SEE YOU OFF MUTE, I'LL
COME BACK AND WE'LL KEEP YOU ON
THE LINE.
THE NEXT PERSON IS MUWI KHAN
AND AGAIN STAR 6 TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF.
OVER, HI, ESA.
COULD YOU HEAR ME?
WE HAD YOU FOR A SECOND.
OKAY.
IS MUWI AVAILABLE?
AFTER THAT IS RICHARD.
HI, ESA.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
>> I CAN HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> HELLO.
>> HI, ESA.
>> HELLO.
HI.
MY NAME IS EAS SERCHILI.
I WENT TO WORK FOR UBER IN
2015.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS
VERY MUCH.
SO LIKE NOW TO LIVING IN
SEATTLE, EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S
VERY HARD.
SO THE RENTS GO HIGH.
I GOT FIVE KIDS AND EVERYTHING
COSTS LIKE HIGH JUST I TRY BEST
TO GET MORE PAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, YOU
KNOW.
WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST, BUT NOW
THE FARES VERY, VERY LOW RIGHT
NOW.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ESA.
MUWI, THANKS FOR WAITING.
YOU ARE UP NEXT.
HI THERE.
>> HI, MY NAME IS MUWI.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES, THANK YOU.
>> PERFECT.
I'M NOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT THE
PAYMENT, BUT I LIKE TO SHARE MY
TESTIMONY AS A PART-TIME
DRIVER.
NOW I'M A PART-TIME CAREGIVER
AND ALSO A PART-TIME UBER
DRIVER.
IT ALLOWS ME TO HAVE FAMILY
TIME TO HELP MY GRANDSON
BETWEEN TIME, YOU KNOW, RIGHT
NOW ONLINE COURSES AND MAYBE
OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS, MY NIECES
AND MY NEPHEWS.
I LIKE THE IN SYNC PAY, BUT I'M
MORE THREATENED WITH THE
POSSIBLE BEING PAID ON PAYROLL.
SO I'M AFRAID OF LOSING THE
FLEXIBILITY OF PAYMENT AND
DRIVE AS I PLEASE.
SO I WAS HOPING MAYBE YOU CAN
RECONSIDER OR MAYBE FIND OTHER
OPTIONS FOR PART-TIME DRIVERS
AND FULL-TIME DRIVERS.
>> EXCELLENT.
PLEASE CONTINUE IF YOU HAVE
ANOTHER SENTENCE.
>> I LOST MY THOUGHT.
I'M SO SORRY.
>> THAT'S OKAY.
WE GOT YOUR MESSAGE.
>> YEAH.
I JUST LIKE THE INDEPENDENCE
AND FLEXIBILITY OF THE UBER AND
LYFT RIDESHARE, TOO.
YEAH.
JUST THE FLEXIBILITY AND BEING
ABLE TO MAKE FAMILY TIME TO
HELP FAMILY AROUND, YOU KNOW,
JUST HELP FAMILY.
THANK YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
RICHARD, GOOD AFTERNOON.
HI, RICHARD, JUST STAR 6 TO
UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> CAN YOU --
>> YEAH.
WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
>> IT SAYS I'M UNMUTED.
>> PERFECT.
>> YEAH.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING FOR OVER FOUR
YEARS JUST FOR LYFT AND I DON'T
SUPPORT THIS CHANGE BECAUSE THE
MODEL HAS FAILED BEFORE THAT
YOU WANT TO USE.
THE OTHER THING I'D REALLY LIKE
TO KIND OF POINT OUT IS THE
SYSTEM HAS A RATING SYSTEM AND
SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T
MAKING REALLY GOOD MONEY ARE
THE ONES WHO HAVE GOT THEIR
RATINGS BELOW 3 FROM THEIR
PASSENGERS WHICH MEANS THEY
NEVER GET MATCHED AGAIN AND WE
DO HAVE RECURRING PEOPLE IN
AREAS THAT USE THE SERVICE AND
IF THAT DRIVER EITHER HAS A BAD
CAR OR A BAD WHATEVER AND THE
PASSENGER DOESN'T LIKE THEM,
THEY RATE THEM AND THEN THEY
NEVER GET MATCHED AGAIN.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A
COMPONENT THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED
AT.
ALSO IF YOU KNOW WHAT TIMES TO
DRIVE, IT'S BETTER.
SO I SUPPORT IT THE WAY IT IS.
I'M A SENIOR.
WITHOUT THIS I CAN'T AFFORD MY
SUPPLEMENTAL INSURANCE AND I
WOULD REALLY HATE TO SEE THAT
GO AWAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEVERLY WALTERS FOLLOWED BY
ABDUCAR AND ANTHONY.
BEVERLY, WELCOME.
>> YES.
MY NAME IS BEVERLY WATERS AND I
AM A FIVE-STAR DRIVER WITH OVER
16,000 RIDES GIVEN AND A FORMER
LYFT DRIVER OF THE YEAR
RECIPIENT.
I WANT TO ADDRESS TODAY THE
MAYOR'S DECISION TO IMPLEMENT
THIS ONEROUS ORDINANCE THAT
WILL DIRECTLY AFFECT MY
STANDARD OF LIVING IN SEATTLE.
I AM RETIRED AND A WIDOW LIVING
ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND DRIVING
FOR LYFT WHICH GIVES ME
FLEXIBILITY TO MAINTAIN MY
LIFESTYLE.
THE BEAUTY OF RIDESHARE IS THE
ABILITY TO TURN ON AND OFF THE
APP AND DECIDE TO DRIVE WHEN
AND WHERE I WANT TO.
BEING AN INDEPENDENT WORKER IS
CRITICAL FOR MY CIRCUMSTANCES
AND THE POTENTIAL TO EARN A
LIVING WITH THE FREEDOM TO
DRIVE ON MY OWN SCHEDULE
WITHOUT RESTRICTING MY ABILITY
TO EARN A LIVABLE INCOME.
THIS PROBLEMATIC LEGISLATION
WILL FORCE RIDESHARE COMPANIES
AND I WANT TO SAY FINALLY THAT
I AM A MOTHER.
I AM A FINANCIAL ADVISER.
I'M A RECREATIONAL BOXER AND I
DRIVE RIDESHARE AS IT WORKS FOR
ME.
DON'T TAKE AWAY MY FLEXIBILITY.
LOOKING FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO
BE A FLEXIBLE DRIVER.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, BEVERLY.
A
BUBAKAR, GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> EVERYBODY ON THIS PLATFORM
OR ON THIS CALL, THINK ABOUT
THE THINGS THAT ARE SO CLOSE TO
YOU THAT YOU CANNOT SEE,
FREEDOM, FLEXIBILITY AND
INDEPENDENCE.
YOUR NOTES, TAKE A LOOK AT
YOUR NOTES.
AS A RIDESHARE DRIVER I MAKE
FAR MORE THAN MINIMUM WAGE AND
GET TO CHOOSE WHEN AND WHERE I
DRIVE.
I STARTED AS A PART-TIME DRIVER
BECAUSE I HAD A FULL-TIME JOB
AS A COORDINATOR AND YOU SEE, I
LOVE TO HELP PEOPLE.
I PUT THEM FOR MY SUPPORT.
NOW I AM ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT
SAME SOCIAL WORK BUT AS A
DRIVER AND I DO IT AT MY OWN
TIME WITH GREAT PLEASURE AND
FREEDOM.
SINCE THEN I HAVE FALLEN IN
LOVE WITH OWNING MY BUSINESS
AND MAKING GOOD MONEY.
HOWEVER, THE GOVERNMENT IS
IMPOSING THEIR WILL TO AFFECT
MY DAY TO DAY AND RESTRICT MY
HOURS OF OPERATION.
I WAS INVOLVED IN OTHER
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR,
BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING TO KNOW
THE TOP PEOPLE IN POWER WHO
BARELY HAVE TIME TO LISTEN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
INDEPENDENCE, FREEDOM AND
FLEXIBILITY.
PLEASE CONSIDER BOTH SIDES, NOT
ONLY ONE SIDE.
ALSO ONE SIDE AGAIN.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE LAST FOUR PEOPLE THAT I SEE
THAT ARE PRESENT ARE ANTHONY
GAY, WALT ELLIS, NOAH MILLER
AND DRAGMOR MOROSE.
THAT'S EVERYBODY WHO IS PRESENT
WHO HAS SIGNED UP.
ARE PLEASE DO CALL MY OFFICE
RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP
OR GET IN TOUCH WITH US BY THE
ALERT ON THE SIGN-UP SHEET SO
WE CAN GET TO YOU IF YOUR NAME
HAS NOT BEEN CALLED.
WE DO NOT SEE YOU PRESENT.
PLEASE DO FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET INTO
THE TESTIMONY LINE VERSUS THE
LISTEN-IN LINE.
OKAY.
AGAIN, ANTHONY, WALT, NOAH AND
DRAGMAR, THESE ARE OUR LAST
SPEAKERS AND WE'LL WRAP UP.
ANTHONY, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> YES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
THANK YOU FOR WAITING.
>> OKAY, YES.
I'M ANTHONY GAY AND I'M A CITY
OF SEATTLE RESIDENT AND I'VE
BEEN DRIVING AS AN INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR FOR VARIOUS
TECHNOLOGY DELIVERY APPS SINCE
2017 AND I'VE NEVER BEEN SO
BLESSED WITH AN ABILITY TO
CREATE FINANCIAL INCOME FOR
MYSELF IN SUCH ABUNDANCE AS I
HAVE IN THE THREE YEARS
INCLUDING DURING THESE RECENT
TROUBLING TIMES.
I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT
MANY OTHER INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS AND DRIVERS THROUGH
SUCH TECHNOLOGY APPS HAVE A
SIMILAR EXPERIENCE OF INCREASED
FREEDOM AND FINANCIAL
EMPOWERMENT DERIVED FROM
UNENCUMBERED ACCESS BY
UNNECESSARY GOVERNMENT
INTERFERENCE TO THESE APPS.
I'VE NEVER FELT A NEED OR
DESIRE OR WANT FOR ANYONE TO
INTERFERE OR PROTECT ME FROM
THE APP COMPANIES THAT I'VE
CONTRACTED WITH AND IF I HAD A
CHOICE, I WOULD EITHER PRESENT
MY CASE TO THOSE CONTRACTED OR
PURSUE OTHER MORE FAVORABLE
WORK.
UNFORTUNATELY I BELIEVE THE
PROBLEM IS THAT SOME
CONTRACTORS DO NOT UNDERSTAND
THAT THEY ARE, IN FACT, WORKING
FOR THEMSELVES AND THUS
RESPONSIBILITY FOR IMPROVING
THEIR INCOME ABILITY IS ON
THEM.
I THINK THAT ANY CONTRACTORS
PUSHING TOWARD DEMAND FOR A
GUARANTEED COMPENSATION ARE, IN
FACT, THE POOREST PERFORMERS
AND WOULD RATHER DEPEND ON
GOVERNMENT GUARANTEE AND
OVERSIGHT RATHER THAN IMPROVE
THEIR OWN PERFORMANCE OR EVEN
SIMPLY CHOOSE TO QUIT BY
CHOOSING A DIFFERENT CAREER AND
A FIELD REQUIRING LESS
RESPONSIBILITY AND LESS RISK
THAN IS NECESSARY FOR BEING AN
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, ANTHONY.
WALT, YOU ARE UP NEXT.
>> HI, THANK YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> YES.
THANK YOU.
WALTER ELLIS.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING ON THE UBER
AND LYFT PLATFORM ABOUT FIVE
YEARS NOW.
OVER THESE YEARS UBER AND LYFT
HAVE CONSISTENTLY INCREASED
THEIR MARKET POWER BY SQUEEZING
OUT OTHER OPTIONS AND CREATING
FEWER OPTIONS FOR DRIVERS LIKE
ME.
SO THEN THEY ABUSE THIS MARKET
POWER BY EFFECTIVELY TELLING US
WELL, HERE, TAKE LESS.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, HAVE A
SO EFFECTIVELY WE HAVE A CHOICE
OF TAKING NOTHING OR TAKING
LESS.
THEY BULLY US REPEATEDLY YEAR
AFTER YEAR REDUCING WHAT IT IS
WE GET PAID AND ALSO THEY TRY
TO SCARE US.
THEY TRY TO TELL US OH, MY
GOSH, IF YOU STAND UP AND
DEMAND RIGHTS AND DEMAND
RESPECT, WE MIGHT TAKE OUR BALL
AND LEAVE.
NOT ONLY ARE THEY TRYING TO
BULLY US, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO
BULLY THE CITY AND TELL THE
CITY THEY'RE TOO BIG TO FAIL.
THEN REALLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
TOO BIG TO FAIL ARE THE PEOPLE
OF SEATTLE, THE DRIVERS LIKE
ME, THE PEOPLE WHO DEPEND ON
THIS TO FEED OUR FAMILIES AND
WE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE
SUFFERING BASED ON UBER AND
LYFT'S THREATS TO BASICALLY CUT
EVERYTHING SO THAT THEY CAN
ENHANCE THEIR SHAREHOLDER
VALUES AT THE EXPENSES OF
REGULAR PEOPLE LIKE ME.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOAH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
NOAH, ARE YOU WITH US?
AND AFTER NOAH
WILL BE DRAGMAR.
HI, NOAH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
I CAN SEE YOU ON THERE IF YOU
CAN TEST YOUR AUDIO.
JUST HAPPENED AGAIN.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> THERE WE GO.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> OKAY.
I'M NOAH MILLER.
I DO NOT SUPPORT THE FAIR
SHARE.
I UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE -- I
SUPPORT MAKING MORE INCOME, BUT
IT'S ALL ABOUT WORK ETHIC,
DRIVING WHEN IT'S BUSY AND
DRIVING IN AREAS WHERE IT'S
BUSY.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING UBER AND LYFT
SINCE APRIL 2018 AND I MAKE A
LOT OF MONEY AND I BELIEVE
PUTTING THIS POLICY INTO LAW
WILL DESTROY THOUSANDS OF
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE AND IT WILL LIMIT THE
AMOUNT OF DRIVERS THAT CAN GO
ONLINE AND ALSO THE FLEXIBILITY
OF CHOOSING WHEN YOU WANT TO
DRIVE AND I DO NOT SUPPORT IT
AT ALL BECAUSE I LOOK AT ALL
THE DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS AND
EVERYTHING AND I BELIEVE IF YOU
GO OUT THERE AND YOU DRIVE IN
THE BUSY TIMES, THE AREAS
INSTEAD OF SITTING OUT, YOU
WILL MAKE THE MONEY YOU NEED TO
SUPPORT YOUR FAMILY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND DRAGMAR, ARE YOU THERE?
>> YES, I AM.
>> WONDERFUL.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> HI.
MY NAME IS DRAGMAR MAROS.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING FOR UBER AND
LYFT FIVE YEARS NOW.
PRIOR TO THIS I USED TO LIVE IN
CALIFORNIA AND I USED TO OWN MY
OWN TAXI COMPANY WITH MANY
CARS, MANY DRIVERS.
WHEN UBER SHOWED UP, I SOLD MY
COMPANY BECAUSE I KNEW I CANNOT
COMPETE WITH THEM.
SO WITH THIS ISSUE YOU GUYS
IMPLEMENT NOW, IF THIS IS LIKE
THE NEW YORK, THIS IS NOT GOING
TO WORK 100% TRUST ME.
I HAVE 21 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN
THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
YOU CANNOT TELL A DRIVER WHAT
TO WORK OR NOT.
THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE, RIGHT?
BECAUSE THAT MEANS YOU'LL HAVE
TO HAVE THAT DRIVER QUIT.
THAT'S FOR SURE AND THEN I'M
NOT SAYING THAT UBER AND LYFT
ARE PERFECT.
I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
I BOUGHT A $60,000 CAR AND ALL
OF A SUDDEN UBER CUT OFF THE
SELECT WHICH I'M NOT MAKING
MINE NO MORE.
LYFT CUT OFF THE LOOKS BLACK
FROM MY APP.
SO I'M NOT SAYING THINGS CANNOT
BE DONE, RIGHT?
BUT A MONEY ISSUE, YOU WANT TO
WORK, YOU GET OUT THERE, SIT IN
THE CAR AND WORK AND BY
IMPLEMENTING THESE KIND OF
RULES AND CHANGES, THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO BRING MORE CUSTOMERS.
IF YOU'RE INNOCENT NOT IN A
CAR AND IF YOU SIT AT HOME,
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE MONEY
EVEN IF YOUR APP IS OPEN, ONE,
AND TWO, AFTER YOU GUYS BLOCK
TO US GO PICK UP AT THE AIRPORT
UNLESS YOU HAVE HYBRID CAR, I
HAVE HYBRID ENGINE CAR, YOU PUT
$100 IN GAS, THE DAY'S GONE.
I CANNOT PICK UP AT THE AIRPORT
WITH UBER, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS,
ALL RIGHT?
>> WRAP UP FOR US REAL QUICK,
IF YOU CAN.
WRAP UP, PLEASE.
>> YEAH.
OVERALL I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS
AT ALL.
TRUST ME, I HAVE 21 YEARS
EXPERIENCE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
YOU'RE GOING TO HURT THOUSANDS
OF PEOPLE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HURT THEM.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THE LAST THREE PEOPLE THAT I
SEE ARE ROBERT, AHMED AND
JARED.
ROBERT, I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK
THAT YOU ARE WITH US.
I SEE NOT PRESENT.
CAN I DOUBLE CHECK THAT WE CAN
UNMUTE ROBERT AND THE SAME IS
TRUE OF AHMED.
I SEE YOU LISTED AS NOT
PRESENT, BUT I JUST WANT TO
DOUBLE CHECK.
CAN WE DOUBLE CHECK THE LINES?
>> NONE OF THOSE ARE PRESENT.
>> OKAY.
AND THEN JARED PORTER AND AHMAN
HUSSAIN?
JARED PORTER, AHMAN HUSSAIN?
>> THOSE ARE ALL NOT PRESENT.
>> OKAY.
FOLKS, THAT GETS US THROUGH
EVERYBODY WHO IS CURRENTLY
PRESENT AND SIGNED UP TO
TESTIMONY.
I APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY.
WE DID GO ABOUT TEN MINUTES
EXTRA.
MADAM CLERK, I APOLOGIZE FOR
THAT AND WANT TO EMPHASIZE OUR
SINCERE INTEREST IN HEARING
FROM EVERYBODY WHO WAS PRESENT
TO ALSO ACCOMMODATE FOR ANYBODY
WHO DIDN'T GET THE CHANCE TO
SPEAK LAST TIME.
WE DID GET THROUGH EVERYBODY
THIS TIME AND AS WELL AS
EVERYBODY PRESENT ON MY LIST
LAST TIME.
THANK YOU ALL FOR CALLING IN.
THAT DOES WRAP UP THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PORTION.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE FIRST
ITEM OF BUSINESS WHICH IS
ACTUALLY LISTED AS ITEM NUMBER
THREE.
>> COUNCIL BILL 119876.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
DRIVER LABOR STANDARDS;
ESTABLISHING MINIMUM LABOR AND
COMPENSATION STANDARDS FOR
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
DRIVERS; ESTABLISHING PROVISION
OF OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR
PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT
TO TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANY DRIVERS DURING THE
CIVIL EMERGENCY DECLARED ON
MARCH 3, 2020.
>> DR. MARISSA BAKER IS FROM
THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON,
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY STANDARDS MANY OF US
HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE LAST FEW
MONTHS AND I KNOW IS ESPECIALLY
A CONCERN AND WORRY AS WE THINK
ABOUT NOT ONLY THE PROTECTION
AND SAFETY FOR DRIVERS, BUT
ALSO FOR RIDERS IN THE CAR.
YOU'VE RECEIVED THE LETTERS
FROM LAST WEEK AND KARINA, WITH
YOURINDULGENCE, WE'LL DO YOUR
PRESENTATION AFTER WE HEAR FROM
DR. BAKER.
COLLEAGUES, I THOUGHT THIS WAS
AN IMPORTANT WAY TO BEGIN THE
PRESENTATION TODAY AS WE THINK
ABOUT SOME OF THE POSSIBLE
CHANGES IN FRONT OF US.
OVER THE LUNCH BREAK I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SEE MY SISTER.
SHE'S 34.
SHE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH MS AT 19
YEARS OLD.
SHE COMES UP TO SEATTLE EVERY
SIX MONTHS TO GET HER INFUSIONS
AND YOU KNOW THAT WITH A
COMPROMISED IMMUNE SYSTEM DUE
TO MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS WE ARE
ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT HER HEALTH
AND SAFETY.
SHE TOOK A LYFT OVER FROM
CHERRY STREET AND TOOK A LYFT
BACK AND THIS IS A REALLY KEY
WAY FOR MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY
TO GET AROUND OUR CITY AND WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE
ALWAYS, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH
PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPROMISED
IMMUNE SYSTEMS OR WHO MAY BE
ELDERLY AND USE UBER, IT'S
REALLY TIMELY FOR US TO HEAR
FROM YOU.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT YOU AS I
SAW HER ON HER LYFT GOING TO
THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS TO PROTECT THE
HEALTH AND SAFETY OF RIDERS AND
DRIVERS AND WANTED TO SHARE
THAT EXAMPLE WHY I THINK THE
PRESENTATION YOU'RE ABOUT TO
SHARE WITH US IS SO CRITICAL IN
THE MOMENT OF COVID, BUT ALSO
FOR ONGOING PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY FOR ALL RIDERS AND
DRIVERS GOING FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU.
I JUST HAVE WORDS TO SHARE.
I DON'T HAVE A SCREEN.
MY NAME IS MARISSA BAKER.
I'M AN ASSISTANT PROFESSOR IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
AND OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH
SCIENCES IN THE UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON SCHOOL OF PUBLIC
HEALTH.
I ALSO DIRECT THE INDUSTRIAL
HYGIENE TRAINING PROGRAM
THROUGH OUR NORTHWEST CENTER
FOR OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH AND
SAFETY FUNDED BY THE NATIONAL
INSTITUTE FOR OCCUPATIONAL
SAFETY AND HEALTH. I
STUDY HOW EXPOSURES ENCOUNTERED
AT WORK CAN INFLUENCE HEALTH,
NOT ONLY FOR WORKERS, BUT ALSO
THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
THESE EXPOSURES MIGHT BE
CHEMICAL, PHYSICAL OR
PSYCHOSOCIAL AND RECENTLY MY
WORK HAS REALLY FOCUSED ON
BIOLOGICAL EXPOSURES DUE TO THE
COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND THE
URGENT OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH
NEEDS IT HAS PRESENTED US.
THROUGH MY TRAINING AND
RESEARCH I'VE OBSERVED TIME AND
TIME AGAIN THE IMPORTANT ROLE
THE WORKPLACE PLAYS IN
INFECTIOUS DISEASE
TRANSFORMATION AND NOW DUE TO
THE SCALE OF THE COVID-19
PANDEMIC WE'VE SEEN THIS AND
ALL REALIZE THIS SUCH ALWAYS
THE CASE OF MEAT PROCESSING
PLANTS FOR AGRICULTURAL
WORKERS, BUT WORKERS ARE ALSO
OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SO THE INFECTIONS THAT THEY MAY
ENCOUNTER AT WORK ARE
TRANSPORTED BACK INTO THE
COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN ALSO
INFECT WORKERS.
THIS SERVES AS A VECTOR OF
DISEASE TRANSMISSION AND
THEREFORE IS AN IMPORTANT PLACE
FOR INTERVENTIONS TO BE FOCUSED
BECAUSE THESE INTERVENTIONS NOT
ONLY PROTECT THE WORKERS, BUT
ALSO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT
THE WORKERS ENCOUNTERS BOTH
INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THEIR
WORKPLACE.
FOR TMC DRIVERS THEIR WORKPLACE
IS THEIR VEHICLE.
THESE DRIVERS AS WE KNOW
TRANSPORT MULTIPLE PEOPLE OVER
THE COURSE OF THE DAY AND EACH
INTERACTION IS A CHANCE TO
SPREAD A DISEASE, A DISEASE
WHICH COULD THEN BE SPREAD TO
SUBSEQUENT PASSENGERS AND
ANYONE ELSE THE DRIVER OR
PASSENGER MAY ENCOUNTER.
KNOWING THE WORKPLACES OR IN
THE CASE OF TMC DRIVERS, THEIR
VEHICLES ARE IMPORTANT FOR
INFECTIOUS DISEASE
TRANSMISSION.
AS A HEALTH, I KNOW IT'S
IMPORTANT TO COME UP WITH
EVIDENCE-BASED POLICIES,
PRACTICES AND CONTROLS TO
PROTECT THESE WORKERS AND THE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEY
ENCOUNTER AT WORK.
JUST TO REITERATE, CONTROLLING
EXPOSURES IN TNC VEHICLES WILL
HELP REDUCE INFECTIONS IN THE
COMMUNITY.
IT WILL REDUCE THE BURDEN OF
INFECTIONS.
SO PPE IS ONE CONTROL THAT HAS
GOT TO BE USED.
DRIVERS ARE IN AN ENCLOSED
SPACE WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE.
THEY'RE FREQUENTLY LESS THAN
SIX FEET APART.
THEY'RE OFTEN TOGETHER FOR
PERIODS OF TIME THAT ARE LONG
ENOUGH TO DISCUSSION AN
EXPOSURE EVENT WHICH IS AROUND
10 TO 15 MINUTES.
GIVEN THE AIRBORNE ROUTE OF
TRANSMISSION FOR COVID-19 AND
OTHER INFECTIOUS DISEASE, SMALL
PARTICLES CAN BE RELEASED BY
PASSENGERS EVEN IF ALL THEY ARE
DOING IS BREATHING.
IT CAN LINGER IN THE AIR EVEN
AFTER THE PASSENGER HAS LEFT.
SO THIS MAKES IT IMPORTANT FOR
RESPIRATORY PROTECTION TO BE
WORN AT ALL TIMES BY DRIVERS
AND PREFERABLY THEIR
PASSENGERS, TOO.
IN FACT, WASHINGTON STATE
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND
INDUSTRIES WOULD CHARACTERIZE
DRIVERS AS BEING IN THE MEDIUM
TO HIGH EXPOSURE RISK GROUP AND
I WOULD AS WELL.
FOR THIS RISK GROUP CLOTH MASKS
ARE NOT ADVISED.
DRIVERS WOULD NEED TO BE IN
DISPOSABLE MEDICAL MASKS AT A
MINIMUM AND THERE COULD BE
INSTANCES WHERE AN N95 MASK
WOULD BE WARRANTED, ESPECIALLY
IF THEIR PASSENGER WAS NOT
MASKED OR IF THEIR PASSENGER
HAD SYMPTOMS CONSISTENT WITH AN
INFECTIOUS DISEASE OR THEY WERE
TRANSPORTING THAT PASSENGER TO
A TESTING OR HOSPITAL SITE
WHICH OCCURS FREQUENTLY.
SO THE RECOMMENDED MASKS ARE
DISPOSABLE AND NEED TO BE
REPLACED WHEN THEY ARE WORN OUT
OR DAMAGED OR GET WET.
IDEALLY AT LEAST ONCE A DAY,
BUT OFTEN MORE FREQUENTLY.
DRIVERS WILL NEED MULTIPLE
MASKS OVER THE COURSE OF A WEEK
OR DAY AND THIS CAN COME AT
CONSIDERABLE COST.
IN WASHINGTON EMPLOYERS ARE
REQUIRED TO PROVIDE PPE TO
WORKERS AT NO COST TO THE
WORKER AND TNC DRIVERS SHOULD
BE NO DIFFERENT, ESPECIALLY
SINCE THEIR NEED FOR PPE IS
GREAT.
THE POTENTIAL TO DECREASE THE
SPREAD OF INFECTION AND THE
POTENTIAL TO DECREASE THE
SPREAD OF ARE INFECTION WITH
DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS WEARING
PPE IS NOTABLE.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT CONTROL TO BE
USED IN VEHICLES IS CLEANING
AND DISINFECTING.
BRIEFLY, THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE
PROCESSES, BUT THEY'RE OFTEN
USED TOGETHER.
THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER.
CLEANING IS THE REMOVAL OF
GERMS, DIRT OR IMPURITIES FROM
A SURFACE.
IT DOESN'T KILL GERMS, BUT IT
REMOVES THEM.
IT LOWERS THEIR NUMBER AND THE
RISK OF SPREADING INFECTION.
DISINFECTING REFERS TO USING AN
EPA-REGISTERED DISINFECTANT TO
KILL GERMS ON SURFACES.
THIS PROCESS DOESN'T CLEAN THE
DIRTY SURFACE OR REMOVE THE
GERM, BUT BY KILLING THE GERMS
ON A SURFACE AFTER CLEANING IT,
IT CAN FURTHER LOWER THE RISK
OF SPREADING INFECTION.
SO FOR TNC DRIVERS THEY MAY NOT
NEED TO CLEAN AFTER EACH
PASSENGER, BUT THEY KNOW MIGHT
AND HOWEVER, THEY CERTAINLY
WOULD NEED TO DISINFECT AFTER
EACH PASSENGER AND THAT IS
CONSISTENT WITH GUIDANCE FROM
THE WASHINGTON STATE DEPARTMENT
OF LABOR AND INDUSTRIALS AND
ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE BEST
SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE AROUND HOW
INFECTIOUS AGENTS SPREAD.
SO AGAIN RECOGNIZING THIS
AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION OF THE
VIRUS AND THE ENCLOSED SPACE
THE DRIVERS AND RIDERS ARE IN
TOGETHER, DISINFECTING WOULD BE
NECESSARY ON MANY SURFACES IN
THE VEHICLE INCLUDING BUT NOT
LIMITED TO THE SEATBELT LATCH,
THE WINDOWS WHERE CONDENSATION
FROM BREATH COULD FORM, THE
HANDLE BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE
THE CAR AND ANY OTHER POROUS OR
HARD SURFACES IN THE CAR WHERE
THE PASSENGER COULD HAVE
BREATHED ON THEM AND LEFT THOSE
DROPLETS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED
ABOUT.
WHEN I MENTIONED DISINFECTING,
I DON'T WANT THE DRIVERS TO
FEEL THEY HAVE TO RUSH IN AND
SPRAY A DISINFECTANT ALL OVER
THE BACK OF THEIR CAR AND
THAT'S FINE BECAUSE THIS COULD
UNFORTUNATELY INTRODUCE OTHER
CHEMICAL EXPOSURES FOR THEM
THAT ARE IN THE SPRAY THAT
THEY'RE USING.
SO THEY REALLY NEED TIME TO PUT
ON GLOVES, SPRAY THE
DISINFECTANT INTO A CLOTH AND
USE THE CLOTH TO RUB OVER AREAS
OF CONCERN AND LET IT SIT FOR
THE REQUIRED CONTACT TIME.
ALL OF THIS TAKES TIME AND I
RECOGNIZE THAT.
HOWEVER, THIS IS THE METHOD
THAT IS MOST PROTECTIVE OF
THEIR HEALTH AND WOULD BE THE
APPROPRIATE WAY TO CLEAN THEIR
VEHICLES EVEN THOUGH THE TIME
TO DO SO COULD TAKE LONGER.
I ALSO WANT TO REMIND THE
COUNCIL VEHICLE CLEANING SHOULD
NOT BE LIMITED TO THE COVID-19
PANDEMIC.
COVID-19 HAS CERTAINLY BROUGHT
TO THE FOREFRONT THE IMPORTANCE
OF HYGIENE AND AS A PUBLIC
HEALTH PROFESSOR AND
OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH RESEARCHER,
I AM HEARTENED TO SEE INCREASED
CONSCIOUSNESS AROUND HOW
INFECTIOUS AGENTS SPRY.
HOWEVER, MANY OTHER DISEASES WE
ENCOUNTER EVERY YEAR SUCH AS
FLU, COLD, OTHER INFECTIOUS
DISEASES ALSO SPREAD THROUGH
DROPLETS AND TRANSMISSION.
SO IT MAKES IT IMPORTANT TO
CLEAN VEHICLES.
WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN TO SEE A
PERMANENT CHANGE IN PUBLIC
PERCEPTION.
HYGIENE IS EXPECTED AND WILL
CONTINUE TO BE EXPECTED BY THE
RIDING PUBLIC LONG PAST THE
COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
LASTLY, THERE ARE OTHER
BIOHAZARD EVENTS THAT WOULD
REQUIRE MORE IN DEPTH CLEANING
AND DISINFECTING PROCEDURES FOR
TNC DRIVERS SUCH AS IF YOU HAVE
A RIDER THAT MIGHT BLEED OR
VOMIT IN THEIR VEHICLE.
THESE EVENTS CALL SWIFT AND
TIMELY CLEANING AND DOING AN
INADEQUATE JOB COULD POSE A
SUBSTANTIAL HEALTH RISK TO
SUBSEQUENT PASSENGERS IN THE
VEHICLE.
I WANT TO REITERATE THE
IMPORTANCE OF ENACTING POLICIES
AND PRACTICES TO LIMIT EXPOSURE
IN WORKPLACES SUCH AS TNC
DRIVERS VEHICLES.
CONTROLLING EXPOSURE IN WORK
SETTINGS LEADS TO DECREASE IN
INFECTIONS IN THE GENERAL
COMMUNITY ULTIMATELY DECREASING
THE BURDEN OF DISEASE IN A
COMMUNITY.
FOR TNC DRIVERS A READY SUPPLY
OF APPROPRIATE PPE IS IMPORTANT
TO PROTECTING THEMSELVES AT
WORK AND PROTECTING THEIR
PASSENGERS AND TIME TO
APPROPRIATELY CLEAN AND
DISINFECT THEIR VEHICLES
BETWEEN RIDERS IS IMPORTANT
DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC
AND BEYOND AS INFECTIOUS
DISEASES ARE NOT LIMITED TO
THIS PANDEMIC AND THERE ARE
OTHER BIOHAZARDOUS EVENTS SUCH
AS VOMITING OR BLEEDING THAT
ARE COMING IN TNC VEHICLES AND
WARRANT TIMELY CLEANING AND
DISINFECTING EFFORTS.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY
EXPERTISE AND THE BEST
AVAILABLE SCIENCE ON THESE
TOPICS WITH THE COUNCIL TODAY
AND I CERTAINLY WELCOME
QUESTIONS NOW OR VIA EMAIL THAT
MAY COME UP.
>> DR. BAKER, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR RESEARCH,
YOUR WORK AND WILLINGNESS TO
SHARE THIS WITH US ON TODAY'S
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION.
I WANT TO NOTE FOR MY COUNCIL
COLLEAGUES MUCH OF YOUR
RESEARCH IN THESE FINDINGS HAVE
BEEN NOTED IN THE LEGISLATION
THAT'S IN FRONT OF US TODAY
BEGINNING ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE
FOUR, SECTION H IN OUR
FINDINGS.
IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR I THINK
THE VIEWING PUBLIC AND THE
HISTORY OF THE BACKGROUND
BEHIND SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT
WE'RE SUGGESTING TO HAVE THIS
CODIFIED IN STATUTE AND FOR THE
PURPOSES FOR OUR DISCUSSION
TODAY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU AND NOTE
THAT WE HAVE FOLDED IN THIS
RESEARCH THAT YOU JUST OUTLINED
INTO THE CONVERSATIONS ON PAGE
FOUR AND FIVE OF THE DRAFT
LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF US.
COLLEAGUES, WE DO HAVE FIVE TO
TEN MORE MINUTES WITH DR.
BAKER.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU'D
LIKE TO SHARE?
I WILL ADD ONE NOTE.
DR. BAKER, WHEN I WAS READING
YOU RESEARCH OVER THE LAST WEEK
OR SO, IT WAS ALSO DURING OUR
BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING TIME
AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF MEMBERS
HERE WHO HAVE BEEN PAST BOARD
OF HEALTH MEMBERS AND ALSO
CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS WITH ME
AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM DR.
DUCHIN WHO IS OUR LOCAL SEATTLE
KING COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH
DIRECTOR IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU
SAID.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF CLEANING
AND PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY
PRECAUTIONS THAT WE NEED TO SEE
GO INTO PLACE NOW, BUT HE ALSO
CAUTIONED AS YOU DID THIS IS
GOING TO BE THE NEW NORMAL.
PEOPLE AVE A NEW EXPECTATION
AND HOPEFULLY A NEW SET OF
BEHAVIORS COMING OUT OF COVID
AND IT MIGHT NOT BE CORONAVIRUS
19, BUT IT WILL BE SOME NEW
FORM OF VIRUS, A NEW
CORONAVIRUS, AND IT WILL BE,
YOU KNOW, UP TO US TO CONTINUE
GOOD HYGIENE PRACTICES, GOOD
PUBLIC HEALTH PRACTICES TO
PROTECT AGAINST THE NEXT
ITERATION OF A COVID-19LIKE
VIRUS.
SO I THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE WHAT YOU
SAID, THAT THIS IS NOT A STATIC
POINT IN TIME, IT WILL ALL GO
BACK TO NORMAL.
THAT DR. DUCHIN SAYS WE WILL
NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO
BACK TO NORMAL.
HOPEFULLY THIS IS OUR NEW
NORMAL GOING FORWARD TO PREVENT
DISEASES IN THE FUTURE.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, DID YOU
HAVE ANYTHING?
I SAW YOU COME OFF MUTE?
OKAY.
DR. BAKER, I DON'T SEE
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
KARINA, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
OR QUESTIONS ON THIS PIECE
BEFORE WE LET THE DOCTOR GO?
>> NO QUESTIONS.
>> DR. BAKER, THANKS FOR YOUR
RESEARCH AND SENDING US YOUR
MATERIALS AND WE LOOK FORWARD
TO LIFTING UP THE LETTERS YOU
SCHRADER SHARED WITH US AND
VERY EXCITED YOU WERE ABLE TO
JOIN US TODAY.
KARINA, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR
WORK AND TIME AND BEING WITH
US.
WE KNOW WE HAVE BEGUN THIS
CONVERSATION QUITE A WHILE AGO,
JUST WANT TO REITERATE FOR THE
PUBLIC WE'RE HOPING TO FINALIZE
A CONVERSATION WE BEGAN PRIOR
TO THE RECESS THIS YEAR, BUT
IT'S A CONVERSATION WE BEGAN
LAST YEAR AND YEARS BEFORE.
I'M HOPING THIS IS OUR LAST
MAJOR PIECE OF LEGISLATION FROM
OUR COMMITTEE THIS YEAR.
LAST FALL DURING THE BUDGET
THIS COUNCIL PASSED A SERIES OF
PIECES OF LEGISLATION
SURROUNDING TNC INDUSTRY
INCLUDING THE RESOLUTION
REQUESTING A STUDY ON WAGES,
BENEFITS AND MORE.
THE STUDY WAS COMPLETED.
WE CIRCULATED A COPY ON JULY
8th ALONG WITH A STUDY
COMMISSIONED BY TNC COMPANIES
UBER AND LYFT.
THE WEEK OF AUGUST 10th MY
OFFICE COORDINATED WITH THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND OFFICE OF
LABOR STANDARDS TO PROVIDE
STAFF BRIEFINGS ON THE STUDY
AND LEGISLATION AND ALMOST ALL
THE OFFICES WERE IN ATTENDANCE,
SO A HUGE, HUGE NOTE OF
APPRECIATION FOR KEREM LEVITAS
FROM THE OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS, KARINA, YOU AND AMY
GORE FROM CENTRAL STAFF FOR
YOUR WORK THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
LOOKING OVER THE PARTICULAR
STUDY EMBEDDED IN THIS
LEGISLATION AND I THINK WHAT'S
IN FRONT OF US IS VERY WELL
THOUGHT OUT, APPRECIATE THAT
THE COUNCIL PRESENT HOSTED A
TNC PRESENTATION IN COMMITTEE
AUGUST 17th AND LAST WEEK ON
SEPTEMBER 15th WE HELD ANOTHER
HEARING ON THIS LEGISLATION TO
HIGHLIGHT CONCERNS, QUESTIONS
AND TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE
AMENDMENTS COMING FORWARD.
WITH ALL OF YOUR WORK AND ALL
THE HELP FROM VARIOUS COUNCIL
MEMBERS WHO SUBMITTED IDEAS WE
REALLY APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THROUGH THE
SUBSTITUTE WITH KARINA.
THERE'S AFEW PIECES IN HERE
THAT RESONATE WITH THE
CONVERSATION WE HAD LAST WEEK.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND DIVE INTO
THE SUBSTITUTE UNLESS THERE'S
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM OUR
COLLEAGUES.
HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN ON THE LINE,
HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO SAY
HELLO YET.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
KARINA, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE IT
AWAY.
>> HI, EVERYONE.
I'M KARINA BULL ON CITY COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF.
I HAVE A POWER POINT
PRESENTATION FOR TODAY WHICH I
WILL CUE UP.
THE GOAL FROM MY PRESENTATION
TODAY IS TO BRIEFLY REVIEW THE
LEGISLATION WHICH IS COUNCIL
BILL 119876 VERY BRIEFLY
BECAUSE THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN
A NUMBER OF PRESENTATIONS ON
THIS BILL, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT
BE HELPFUL TO GO OVER SOME OF
THE KEY COMPONENTS, ESPECIALLY
AS THEY RELATE TO THE
SUBSTITUTE BILL AND AMENDMENTS
TO SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS AS
WELL.
THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES AT
ITS CORE MINIMUM COMPENSATION
STANDARDS AND OTHER LABOR
PROTECTIONS FOR TRANSPORTATION
NETWORK COMPANY DRIVERS AND IT
WOULD GO INTO EFFECT JANUARY
1st OF 2021 AND WOULD BE
IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY'S
OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS.
THE KEY COMPONENTS ARE THE
MINIMUM PAY STANDARDS FOR
DRIVERS AND PROTECTIONS WHICH
IS A GUARANTEE DRIVERS CAN KEEP
CUSTOMER PAID TIPS SEPARATE
FROM COMPENSATION OWED THEM BY
THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANIES.
THE PROVISION OF PERSONAL
PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND
DISINFECTING SUPPLIES, THAT IS
THE PROVISION OF THOSE SUPPLIES
OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE COST
OF THOSE SUPPLIES AND THAT DOES
NOT INCLUDE TIME FOR THE
DRIVERS TO ACTUALLY USE THOSE
SUPPLIES.
AND THE TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO
CLEAN THEIR VEHICLES SEPARATE
FROM THE COVID-19 EMERGENCY.
SO I'LL GO INTO THE CLEANING
TIME ADDED TO THE MINIMUM
COMPENSATION STANDARD LATER
THAT'S IN THE SUBSTITUTE BILL.
NEXT ARE TRANSPARENCY
REQUIREMENTS FOR TNC DRIVERS
AND PASSENGERS.
THAT MEANS THE TNCs ARE
REQUIRED TO PROVIDE DIRECTLY
AFTER THE PASSENGER TRIP WITH A
VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
INFORMATION AND LAST A TNC
STUDY THAT IS TASKED TO OLS AND
ALSO THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
JUST TO GROUND US IN AN
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS
LEGISLATION IS APPROACHING THE
MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD,
I AM USING SEVERAL SLIDES
OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS HAS
GENEROUSLY ALLOWED CENTRAL
STAFF TO BORROW.
THIS IS A REMINDER THAT THE
COMPENSATION STANDARD COVERS
ALL OF THE TIME THAT THE
DRIVERS ARE LOGGED INTO THE
APP.
THE P1, P2 AND P3 TIME, THAT'S
THE SHORTHAND REFERENCE TO
AVAILABLE PLATFORM TIME AND
DISPATCH PLATFORM TIME AND
PASSENGER PLATFORM TIME.
THE P1 AND P2 REPRESENT THE
TIME THAT THE DRIVERS ARE
DRIVING AROUND WAITING TO BE
ASSIGNED A RIDE.
THE P2 TIME IS THE TIME IT
TAKES THE DRIVER TO GET TO THE
PASSENGER AND THE 3 REPRESENTS
WHEN THE PASSENGER IS IN THE
VEHICLE MOVING TO THEIR FINAL
DESTINATION.
THE MINIMUM COMPENSATION
STANDARD HAS TWO COMPONENTS.
ONE IS PAYMENT FOR THE DRIVER'S
TIME THAT THEY SPEND WORKING
WAITING FOR A RIDE, DRIVING TO
A PASSENGER AND THEN
TRANSPORTING THAT PASSENGER.
THE NEXT PIECE IS COMPENSATION
FOR MILEAGE EXPENSES, OPERATING
COSTS AND ALSO COMPENSATION FOR
THINGS THESE DRIVERS AREN'T
GETTING.
THEY AREN'T GETTING THE BENEFIT
OF BEING COVERED BY SEATTLE'S
MINIMUM WAGE, HENCE THIS
LEGISLATION, AND ALSO THEY
AREN'T GETTING THE BENEFIT OF
OTHER PROTECTIONS LIKE EMPLOYER-
PROVIDED HEALTH INSURANCE AND
THE FACT THAT EMPLOYERS WOULD
PAY PAYROLL TAXES AND OTHER
ITEMS AS WELL.
>> JUST TO PUT A FINER POINT ON
THAT, AS FOLKS CAN SEE IN THE
LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF US,
ALSO IN THE FINDINGS, WHEN WE
HEAR THAT DRIVERS ARE MAKING
AROUND $21.53 PER HOUR, THE
REALITY IS THAT THE DRIVERS ARE
OFTEN TAKING HOME ABOUT $9.73
PER HOUR.
PUT THAT IN CONTRAST WITH WHAT
OUR CITY'S MINIMUM WAGE IS,
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $13.50 TO
$16.39 AND I THINK IT PUTS IN
STARK CONTRAST THE WAGE
DISPARITY THAT MANY OF THESE
DRIVERS CURRENTLY HAVE.
$9.73 IS NOWHERE NEAR OUR
MINIMUM WAGE.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE CRUX OF
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS
HERE.
>> YES.
>> AS A FOLLOW-UP TO THAT
CONCEPT, WHEN WE HEAR THAT
DRIVERS ARE MAKING $23 AN HOUR,
WE SHOULD ASSUME THERE ARE
OBVIOUSLY EXCEPTIONS, BUT FOR
THE MOST PART THEY'RE NOT
REMOVING THE COSTS ASSOCIATED
WITH THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE
DONE TO DO THIS JOB, WHETHER OR
NOT IT'S MAINTAINING THE
VEHICLE OR SOME OF THE OTHER
COSTS THAT ARE PART OF THIS
FORMULA, THAT THOSE COSTS HAVE
NOT BEEN REDUCED FROM WHAT THE
DRIVERS SEE AS EARNINGS.
>> CORRECT.
SO THE REASONABLE INTENTIONS
MAKE UP THE BULK OF WHAT
THEY'RE MADE AND THEY'RE NOT
REIMBURSED FOR THOSE.
THAT IS WHAT THIS LEGISLATION
IS SEEKING TO ACCOUNT FOR, TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE DRIVERS ARE
BEING PAID NO LESS THAN THE
SEATTLE MINIMUM WAGE FOR LARGE
EMPLOYERS FOR THE TIME THAT
THEY SPENT WORKING WHICH MEANS
DRIVING IN THE VEHICLE FOR ALL
STAGES OF THE RIDE PROCESS AND
THEN ALSO THAT THEY'RE PAID FOR
THE REASONABLE EXPENSES THAT
THEY INCUR DURING THE DRIVING
AS WELL.
>> I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT
BECAUSE I HEAR A LOT OF THE
DRIVERS WHO ARE -- OF THE
SUBSET OF DRIVERS NOT
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BILL, I HEAR
A LOT OF FOLKS SAYING OH, WELL,
THEY'RE MAKING X NUMBER OF
DOLLARS PER HOUR AND THE PEOPLE
SUPPORTING THIS BILL JUST
AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT.
THEY AREN'T DOING THE JOB RIGHT
OR ELSE THEY COULD BE MAKING
MORE MONEY, BUT THE RETORT TO
THAT IS YOU MAY CONSIDER
YOURSELF MAKING X NUMBER OF
DOLLARS AN HOUR, BUT HAVE YOU
CONSIDERED IN ORDER TO REALLY
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR PROFITS
ARE AS A WORKER, YOU NEED TO
TAKE OUT ALL THESE OTHER COSTS.
>> EXACTLY.
IT'S UNCLEAR WHEN EVERYONE IS
ASSESSING IT WHETHER THEY'RE
ACCOUNTING FOR THE REASONABLE
EXPENSES AND ALSO THE TIME
SPENT DRIVING AND WAITING FOR A
RIDE AND THE TIME SPENT DRIVING
TO THE RIDE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN
DETERMINING HOW MUCH SHOULD BE
OWED TO A DRIVER.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, VICE-
CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR LIFTING
THAT UP.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY
IMPORTANT POINT AND ALSO JUST
TO REITERATE IT'S NOT ONLY AN
IMPORTANT POINT WE HEAR FROM
DRIVERS, IT IS EXACTLY WHAT
PLAYED OUT IN THE WRIGHT AND
PARROT STUDY WHICH WE ARE
CONTINUING TO REFERENCE IN THE
LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF US.
IT'S DATA DRIVEN SOLUTIONS WE
ARE LOOKING FOR BASE NOT ONLY
ON ANECDOTES WE HEAR FROM
DRIVERS REPEATEDLY BUT ALSO
WHAT THE STUDY BORE OUT.
GOOD POINT.
THANK YOU.
>> THIS NEXT LINE SHOWS PAYMENT
FORMULA FOR THE MINIMUM
COMPENSATION STANDARD AND
YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TIME WILL
BE PAID OUT AT NO LESS THAN
SEATTLE'S MINIMUM WAGE FOR
REFERENCE.
THIS IS THE 2020 MINIMUM WAGE
FOR LARGE EMPLOYERS.
IT IS $16.39.
I ANTICIPATE IN THE NEXT FEW
WEEKS OR SO WE WILL HEAR FROM
THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS
WHAT THE 2021 STANDARD WILL BE.
IT ALWAYS GOES UP.
IT NEVER GOES DOWN.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN
MIND AND THEN THE PERMANENT
RATE IS MULTIPLIED BY THE
NUMBER OF MINUTES THAT THE
DRIVER SPEND IN THE TIME
PERIOD.
THEN IT'S ADDED TO THE NUMBER
OF MILES THAT THE DRIVER IS
DRIVING IN THE P3 PERIOD AND
MULTIPLIED TIMES THE PER MILE
RATE WHICH YOU CAN SEE IS A
LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT
BECAUSE OF THE UTILIZATION
STANDARD.
IT IS 0.830 PER MILE RATE.
THE IMPORTANT PIECE TO
COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS FORMULA
IS THE EP3 TIME ONLY REPRESENTS
ONE-THIRD OF THE EQUATION FOR
HOW TO PAY DRIVERS.
SO IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT HOW
TO COMPENSATE DRIVERS FOR THAT
P1 AND P2 TIME, THE AUTHORS OF
THE ACADEMIC REPORT DEVELOPED A
UTILIZATION RATE.
WE'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT
THAT IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND
IT IS A KEY PART OF THIS
MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD
TO GET DRIVERS TO THE
APPROPRIATE PAYMENT FOR ALL THE
TIME THAT THEY SPEND WORKING.
SO THE UTILIZATION RATE
MEASURES HOW MUCH TIME THE
DRIVERS SPEND IN THEIR CAR
DRIVING IN THE P3 PERIOD AND
HOW MANY MILES THEY ARE DRIVING
DURING THE P3 PERIOD AND IT
COMES OUT THAT DRIVERS ARE
SPENDING ABOUT A HALF HOUR OF
EVERY HOUR WITH THE PASSENGER
IN THE CAR AND THEY'RE DRIVING
A LITTLE BIT -- SINCE THEY'RE
DRIVING FASTER WHEN THEY HAVE A
PASSENGER IN THE CAR, THEIR
MILEAGE RATE IS ACTUALLY A
LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN JUST
HALF OF WHAT IT WOULD BE
TYPICALLY.
SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT THE
UTILIZATION RATE A IN A
PERCENTAGE BASIS IS ABOUT 49.2%
OF THEIR TIME AND THEN THE
MILEAGE IS 62.2% OF THEIR TIME.
WHEN FIGURING OUT THE MINIMUM
COMPENSATION FORMULA, IT'S THE
AMOUNT OF MINUTES THAT THE
DRIVER HAS DRIVEN TIMES THE PER
MINUTE RATE OF THE SEATTLE
MINIMUM WAGE DIVIDED BY THIS
UTILIZATION RATE AND THEN THE
SAME THING FOR THE MILES AND
THAT WILL GET THEM TO WHAT THEY
ARE SUPPOSED TO EARN.
THE KEY PART OF THIS
UTILIZATION RATE IS THAT IT
LIKELY WILL NOT STAY STAGNANT
ACROSS TIME AS THE INDUSTRY
CHANGES.
IT IS A DYNAMIC CALCULATION AND
SO THE LEGISLATION PROVIDES THE
OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THE
UTILIZATION RATE IN THE FUTURE.
SO IN THE INTRODUCED
LEGISLATION THE OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS CAN CHANGE IT ONE
YEAR AFTER THE LAW GOES INTO
EFFECT.
ANY ADJUSTMENT WILL TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT AN ASSESSMENT PERIOD
THAT CAN LAST UP TO 12 MONTHS
AND THE OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS IS REQUIRED TO
PROVIDE ADVANCED NOTICE TO THE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANIES AND THE DRIVERS AND
OTHER INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS
OF WHEN THIS ASSESSMENT PERIOD
WILL HAPPEN BEFORE IT HAPPENS
WHICH MEANS THAT THE PUBLIC AND
THE TNCs WILL ALWAYS KNOW WHEN
AN ASSESSMENT PERIOD IS
HAPPENING AND THAT IS THE
PERIOD OF TIME THAT THE OFFICE
OF LABOR STANDARDS WILL USE TO
DEVELOP THEIR BASIS FOR
ADJUSTING THE UTILIZATION RATE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> SO JUST CONCEPTUALLY, THAT
FORMULA THAT YOU HAVE WHERE YOU
HAVE TWO NUMBERS ON THE TOP AND
THEY'RE BOTH -- BOTH NUMBERS
ARE DIVIDED BY THE UTILIZATION
RATE.
IN DOING THAT, THAT MAKES IT
POSSIBLE FOR DRIVERS TO BE PAID
FOR P1 AND P2 TIME.
THAT IS THE FORMULA BECAUSE
MATH ISN'T MY STRONG SUIT, BUT
THE FUNCTION OF DIVIDING THE
TOP NUMBER BY THE BOTTOM NUMBER
MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO PAY FOR
THAT P1 AND P2 TIME.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
THAT IS CORRECT.
I DON'T HAVE THE FORMULA IN MY
-- I'M GOING TO SCROLL OVER TO
THE MEMO THAT I WROTE, IF I CAN
FIND IT.
>> THAT'S WHY I'VE GOT IT
ENGRAINED IN MY BRAIN FROM YOUR
MEMO.
MY QUESTION IS THE ADVANCE
NOTICE OF THE ADJUSTMENTS TO
THE TNCs, DOES THAT CREATE AN
OPPORTUNITY, NOT THAT ANYBODY
WOULD, TO MANIPULATE THE
UTILIZATION RATES IN A WAY, YOU
KNOW, BY TAKING, FOR INSTANCE,
EITHER BY PUTTING A WHOLE BUNCH
OF CARS ON THE ROAD OR TAKING A
WHOLE BUNCH OF CARS OFF THE
ROAD, TINKERING WITH THE AMOUNT
OF TIME I GUESS IT WOULD BE
TAKING CARS OFF THE ROAD, IF
YOU IN ADVANCE KNEW THERE WAS
GOING TO BE AN ADJUSTMENT,
COULD YOU TAKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF
CARS OFF THE ROAD IN ADVANCE OF
THAT ADJUSTMENT SO THAT THERE
IS A UTILIZATION RATE THAT
ASSUMES LESS WAITING TIME AND
LESS DISPATCH TIME?
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING
QUESTION.
>> I BET YOU WISHED I WOULD
HAVE ASKED IT ABOUT A WEEK AGO,
RIGHT?
SORRY.
>> THE ASSESSMENT PERIOD WILL
REFLECT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
REALTIME AND SO SINCE THERE IS
ADVANCE NOTICE OF WHEN IT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN AND SINCE THE
TNCs ARE IN CONTROL OF HOW THEY
OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS MODEL,
IT STANDS TO REASON THAT THEY
ARE A CONTROL OF WHETHER OR NOT
TO CHANGE WHAT DRIVERS ARE ON
THE ROAD TO THE EXTENT THEY
HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO.
I WOULD SAY THAT SINCE THE
ASSESSMENT PERIOD CAN BE UP TO
12 MONTHS AT LEAST IN THE
INTRODUCED LEGISLATION, THE
LONGER IT IS, I THINK PERHAPS
IF ANYONE IS TRYING TO REACH A
PREDETERMINED GOAL FOR THE
UTILIZATION RATE, A YEAR IS A
REALLY LONG TIME IN ORDER TO BE
ENACTING THOSE KIND OF
MEASURES.
SO A YEAR WOULD ALLOW FOUR
SEASONS OF DRIVING TO HAPPEN IN
ORDER TO MEASURE WHAT'S
HAPPENING ON THE ROAD AND
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH DRIVERS
AND WHAT PASSENGERS WANT.
SO I THINK THAT THE LONGER THAT
THE ASSESSMENT PERIOD IS
PROVIDES A BETTER PERIOD OF
TIME TO ASSESS WHAT'S HAPPENING
ON THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK.
>> THAT'S HELPFUL.
SO THE ASSESSMENT PERIOD, I DID
UNDERSTAND THAT.
I KNEW WE WEREN'T GOING TO DO
ANOTHER ASSESSMENT FOR THREE
YEARS, BUT THE PERIOD OF TIME
UNDER WHICH THE ASSESSMENT IS
DONE IS OVER THE FULL PERIOD OF
TIME.
IT'S NOT LIKE A SPOT CHECK IN
THREE YEARS OR IN A YEAR.
>> CORRECT.
IT IS NOT A SPOT CHECK.
JUST TO JUMP AHEAD WITH A
PREVIEW ON THE SUBSTITUTE BILL,
I THINK NOW IS A REALLY
OPPORTUNE TIME TO TALK ABOUT
SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE IN
THE SUBSTITUTE BILL.
SO I WILL SCROLL AHEAD INTO
THAT.
RIGHT HERE YOU SEE I'VE LIFTED
UP THE MOST SALIENT CHANGES IN
THE SUBSTITUTE BILL.
THERE ARE ABOUT FIVE OF THEM OR
SO.
I'M GOING TO JUMP AHEAD INTO
THE ONE THAT ADDRESSES
UTILIZATION RATES SINCE IT JUST
SEGWAYS NATURALLY INTO THIS
CONVERSATION.
AS I MENTIONED IN THE
INTRODUCED BILL, THE DIRECTOR
WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO
ADJUST THE UTILIZATION RATE ONE
YEAR AFTER THE ORDINANCE WENT
INTO EFFECT AND THE ASSESSMENT
PERIOD WOULD BE UP TO 12 MONTHS
ONCE AGAIN PROVIDING THE
ADVANCE NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.
THE SUBSTITUTE BILL WOULD
CHANGE THAT DELAY INTO THREE
YEARS.
SO THE DIRECTOR WOULD HAVE TO
WAIT THREE YEARS UNTIL AFTER
THE ORDINANCE WAS IN EFFECT IN
ORDER TO ADJUST BOTH THE
UTILIZATION RATE FOR TIME AND
MILEAGE AND THE ASSESSMENT
PERIOD MUST BE 12 MONTHS LONG.
THAT'S NOT UP TO 12 MONTHS OR
LESS THAN 12 MONTHS.
IT MUST BE 12 MONTHS AGAIN TO
ACCOUNT FOR THE FULL
SEASONALITY OF WHAT HAPPENS
ACROSS THE YEAR, DIFFERENT
DRIVING HAPPENING IN DECEMBER
THAN MIGHT HAPPEN IN JULY THAT
MIGHT HAPPEN IN JANUARY.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN
COMPONENTS AFFECTING THE
UTILIZATION RATE IN THE
SUBSTITUTE BILL.
>> THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT,
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, AND
KARINA, THANK YOU AS WELL FOR
JUMPING AHEAD.
I JUST WANT TO NOTE THE
IMPORTANCE AND CORRECT ME IF
I'M SAYING THIS WRONG, KARINA,
BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANCE OF
US HAVING THIS DELAY IS ALSO TO
TRY TO GET TO WHATEVER THE NEW
NORMAL IS FOR OUR LOCAL ECONOMY
POST COVID AND ALSO GIVE THAT
12 MONTH TIME FRAME TO REALLY
DO AN APPLES TO APPLES
COMPARISON FOR THE DIFFERENT
SEASONS WITHIN OUR LOCAL
ECONOMY.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY, KARINA?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE
COVID EMERGENCY HAS HAD A
DRAMATIC -- THAT IT IS AN
UNDERSTATEMENT -- AND VERY
PROFOUND EFFECT ON THE TNC
INDUSTRY AND THE RIDES THAT THE
DRIVERS ARE GETTING AND THAT
ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN
SEATTLE.
SO THAT COULD TAKE A VERY LONG
TIME TO STABILIZE AGAIN AND I
DON'T THINK ANYONE KNOWS WHAT
STABILIZATION MEANS IN THE
INDUSTRY AFTER THE COVID
EMERGENCY IS WELL.
SO THREE YEARS ALLOWS TIME FOR
THAT TO HAPPEN.
>> THIS GIVES US A LITTLE BIT
MORE TIME SOME PEOPLE
REFERENCED.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> I JUST WANT TO AGAIN
UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF BOTH
THE PLATFORMS AND SOME SUBSET
OF DRIVERS.
WHEN THEY POINT TO THE NEW YORK
MODEL, THEY ARE POINTING TO A
MODEL THAT HAS A UTILIZATION
RATE.
THEIR BASIC OPPOSITION IS AN
OPPOSITION TO BEING PAID FOR
TIME WHILE -- FOR P1 AND P2
TIME.
DOES THAT KIND OF DISTILL THAT
ISSUE IN A WAY THAT'S ACCURATE?
IS THAT -- THE CONCERN IS THAT
BY PAYING PEOPLE FOR TIME WHILE
THEY'RE WAITING, THAT THAT WILL
ESSENTIALLY IMPACT THE NUMBER
OF DRIVERS AND IF THERE ARE
FEWER DRIVERS, THAT THAT
SOMEHOW WILL FROM A DRIVER'S
PERSPECTIVE THE PLATFORM WILL
TAKE .
>> CERTAINLY SOME HAVE
EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE NEW
YORK MODEL THAT DOES HAVE
UTILIZATION RATE IT USES TO PAY
DRIVERS FOR P1, P2 AND P3 TIME
IT.
IS CURRENTLY 58%.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT HAS NOT
BEEN CHANGED SINCE THE LAW WENT
INTO EFFECT A WHILE BACK AND
THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANIES HAVE THE DISCRETION
IN ORDER TO CHANGE HOW MANY
DRIVERS ON THE ROAD.
IT'S NOT REGULATED BY THE CITY
TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
I BELIEVE THAT IS AT THE TNCs
DISCRETION.
IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE AT THE TN
THIS' DISCRETION IN SEATTLE AS
FAR AS I KNOW AND THE
RESEARCHERS FOR THE STUDY THAT
THE CITY COMMISSIONED, JAMES
PARROT AND MICHAEL WRIGHT,
FORECASTED THAT ONE WAY THAT
THE INDUSTRY COULD RESPOND TO
THIS PAYMENT STANDARD COULD BE
TO LIMIT DRIVERS ON THE ROAD
AND THE AUTHORS, I BELIEVE, SAW
THAT AS A BENEFIT BECAUSE IT
COULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF CARS
ON THE ROAD AND IT COULD
MAXIMIZE EARNINGS OF THE
IF A UTILIZATION RATE WAS
CHANGED TO REFLECT THAT THERE
WERE FEWER DRIVERS ON THE ROAD,
THEN THAT COULD RESULT IN
DRIVERS EARNING LESS PER TRIP.
HOWEVER, THEY WOULD BE MAKING
MORE TRIPS WHICH WOULD GIVE
THEM MORE MONEY AND SO IT WOULD
MAXIMIZE EARNINGS OVER TIME AND
IF I THINK ONE WOULD POSIT --
I'M NO ECONOMIST -- THAT THERE
IS A FLOOD OF DRIVERS ON THE
ROAD BECAUSE THIS MINIMUM
COMPENSATION STANDARD IS THIS
APPEALING, THEN RIGHT NOW THE
UTILIZATION RATE IS BASED ON A
HALF HOUR OF DRIVING AROUND AND
GETTING TO THE PASSENGER.
IF THERE ARE TOO MANY DRIVERS
ON THE ROAD, ONE MIGHT IMAGINE
THAT THAT P1 AND P2 TIME MIGHT
BE AN HOUR LONG INSTEAD OF A
HALF HOUR LONG AND THE DRIVERS
WOULDN'T BE COMPENSATED FOR
THAT IN THIS CURRENT FORMULA.
SO THE FORMULA WOULDN'T REALLY
REPRESENT THEIR PRACTICE OF
WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING AND
IT ACTUALLY MIGHT NOT GET THEM
TO SEATTLE'S MINIMUM WAGE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT AT
LEAST IN MY ASSESSMENT FOR THE
UTILIZATION RATE TO CHANGE OVER
TIME BECAUSE IT WILL REFLECT
WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON
THE ROAD.
>> SUPER HELPFUL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THIS IS, OF COURSE, NOT THE
ONLY AMENDMENT IN THE
SUBSTITUTE BILL.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CONTENT,
SO TO SPEAK, FOR THE OTHER
AMENDMENTS AND THE FIRST ONE IS
A MINIMUM PER TRIP AMOUNT AND
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ESTABLISH
PAYMENT FOR A MINIMUM FOR TRIP
AMOUNT THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE
TNCs TO PAY DRIVERS $5 FOR EACH
TNC DISPATCHED TRIP.
THE WAY THIS WOULD PLAY OUT IS
THAT DRIVERS WOULD GET EITHER
THE MINIMUM COMPENSATION
FORMULA, WHICH IS TIME PLUS
MILEAGE DIVIDED BY THAT
UTILIZATION RATE, OR THEY WOULD
GET THIS MINIMUM TRIP AMOUNT,
WHICHEVER IS GREATER.
SO FOR A DRIVER WHO MAYBE IS
TAKING A PASSENGER JUST A
COUPLE BLOCKS DOWN THE ROAD AND
MIGHT EARN $2.80 USING THE
MINIMUM COMPENSATION FORMULA,
IN THIS INSTANCE THEY WOULD GET
AT LEAST $5 FOR THEIR TIME.
>> SORRY, KARINA.
GO AHEAD.
>> YEAH.
THIS $5 WOULD BE INCREASED EACH
YEAR TO REFLECT THE RATE OF
INFLATION.
SO IT'S NOT A STATIC AMOUNT
OVER TIME AND IT DOESN'T COVER
EVERY SINGLE TRIP THAT'S
DISPATCHED TO A DRIVER, BUT I
THINK AN EASY WAY TO THINK
ABOUT IT IS THAT IT COVERS ANY
TIME A PASSENGER IS IN THE CAR.
IT COVERS NO-SHOWS AND IT
COVERS PASSENGER AND TNC
CANCELLATIONS.
IT DOES NOT COVER A TRIP
CANCELED BY THE DRIVER.
IT DOES NOT COVER CANCELLATIONS
THAT HAPPEN WHEN THE FEE IS
ACTUALLY REFUNDED BACK TO THE
PASSENGER DUE TO DRIVER
CONDUCT.
SO DRIVERS KNOW THAT THEY WILL
GET AT LEAST $5 EACH TIME THEY
TAKE A PASSENGER FROM POINT TO
POINT B.
>> THANK YOU, KARINA.
COLLEAGUES, I THINK THAT THIS
IS AN IMPORTANT ADDITION TO THE
LEGISLATION.
MANY OF US ARE USED TO THE $5
CANCELLATION FEE ALREADY.
THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THE
PLATFORM.
I THINK MANY USERS OR RIDERS
ARE ACCUSTOMED TO THAT.
THIS IS ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT
IF A DRIVER PASSED ON ANOTHER
FARE TO TAKE SOMEONE JUST A FEW
BLOCKS DOWN THE STREET AND IT'S
MAYBE $3, THEY HAVE PASSED ON
ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
SO A MINIMUM FEE SEEMS
REASONABLE.
WE'RE USED TO MINIMUM FEES IN
PLACES OF BUSINESS ACROSS THE
CITY OR COUNTRY.
IF YOU GO TO A STORE, SOMETIMES
THERE'S A $5 MINIMUM, THINGS
LIKE THAT TO PURCHASE.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE
DRIVERS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S
JUST A SHORT TRIP INVOLVED.
>> ONE NOTE THAT IS IN THE
INTRODUCED LEGISLATION THERE IS
A PROVISION THAT WOULD REQUIRE
THE TNCs TO PASS ON ANY
CANCELLATION FEE CHARGED TO A
PASSENGER TO THE DRIVER WHICH
IS KIND OF LIKE A MINIMUM PER
TRIP AMOUNT BUT DOESN'T COVER
TO THE SITUATIONS WHEN THERE
ACTUALLY IS P3 TIME.
SO THAT PROVISION IS REMOVED IN
THE SUBSTITUTE BILL AND IS
ESSENTIALLY REPLACED AND
AUGMENTED BY WHAT IS NOW THE
MINIMUM PER TRIP AMOUNT.
>> THANK YOU, KARINA.
>> YEAH.
NEXT IS A CHANGE TO THE
REASONABLE INTENTIONS, MILEAGE
AND NONMILAGE EXPENSES PAID TO
DRIVERS.
IN THE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION
CLEANING TIME AND REST BREAKS
ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PER
MILE RATE.
SO THE SUBSTITUTE BILL WOULD
COMPENSATE DRIVERS FOR 30
MINUTES PER DAY FOR VEHICLE
CLEANING.
THAT WOULD REPRESENT THE TWO TO
THREE MINUTES BETWEEN
PASSENGERS THAT DRIVERS COULD
USE THE CLEAN THE VEHICLE
DURING THE COVID EMERGENCY,
AFTER THE COVID EMERGENCY TO
PREVENT THE SPREAD OF
INFECTIOUS DISEASE AND ADDRESS
OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE MAYBE A
LARGER EVENT IS HAPPENING LIKE
VOMITING OR BLEEDING IN THE
CAR.
WE HEARD FROM DR. BAKER ABOUT
ACADEMIC SUPPORT AND RESEARCH
ON THAT ISSUE.
THE AMENDMENT ALSO WOULD
INCREASE THE REASONABLE
EXPENSES PER MILE RATE TO
ACCOUNT FORREST BREAKS WHICH IS
A STATE MANDATED REQUIREMENT
FOR EMPLOYEES OF TEN MINUTES OF
PAID REST PERIOD FOR FOUR HOURS
WORKED.
THAT WOULD NOW APPLY TO THE TNC
DRIVERS IN THE FORM OF
ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION.
THIS IS SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT
THE CITY PASSED FOR DOMESTIC
WORKERS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO
AS WELL.
SO THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR THE
CITY TAKING THIS KIND OF
ACTION.
THE COMBINED PER MILE RATE FOR
BOTH THESE ADDITIONS TO
REASONABLE EXPENSES WOULD
AMOUNT IN A NEW PER MILE RATE
OF 83 CENTS PER MILE.
THE PER MILE RATE HAPPENS WHEN
YOU DIVIDE BY THE UTILIZATION
RATE, COMES TO A NEW PER MILE
RATE OF $1.33.
SO APPLYING THAT TO THE FULL
COMPENSATION STANDARD FOR 2020
RESULTS IN ABOUT 29.90 PER
HOUR.
I WANT TO NOTE FOR FOLKS
FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THE MEMO
THAT WAS POSTED FOR THIS
PRESENTATION THAT THERE WAS
SOME TRANSPOSING OF NUMBERS IN
THE MEMO REGARDING VEHICLE
CLEANING TIME AND REST BREAKS.
SO THOSE HAVE BEEN CORRECTED
AND YOU'LL SEE A CORRECTED
VERSION OF THE MEMO POSTED
AFTER THE AGENDA.
THAT YOU, KARINA.
COLLEAGUES, THIS IS THE SLIDE
I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE
YOU ALL KNOW I'M A TOTAL NERD
ABOUT HEALTH AND PUBLIC HEALTH.
SO THIS COMBINATION HERE I
THINK IS REALLY IN THE PUBLIC
HEALTH REALM.
NUMBER ONE, I KNOW ALL OF YOU
HAVE BEEN STRONG ADVOCATES FOR
REST BREAKS FOR WORKERS IN THE
PAST.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE
AS WELL AS WE SEE PEOPLE
DRIVING ACROSS OUR CITY WHO
NEED A MOMENT TO BEST, GO TO
THE BATHROOM PERHAPS, GRAB A
SNACK, SOME WATER.
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT
PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE A
BREAK SO THAT THEY AREN'T
DRIVING WITH ANY KIND OF
DISTRACTION, IF THEY'RE TIRED,
HAVING A CHANCE TO RECOUP.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE,
ESPECIALLY AS THESE DRIVERS ARE
ACROSS OUR CITY.
WE WANT OTHER DRIVERS AND
PEDESTRIANS TO BE SAFE.
THE OTHER IMPORTANT ELEMENT
HERE AS IT RELATES TO THE
PRESENTATION FROM DR. BAKER IS
WHILE THERE'S A LOT OF
ATTENTION NOW TO MAKING SURE
PLACES OF WORK, AS DR. BAKER
SAID, THESE CARS ARE PLACES OF
WORK, ARE SAFE AND CLEAN RIGHT
NOW, THERE IS GOING TO BE AN
ONGOING NEED IN THE FUTURE TO
MAKE SURE ALL PLACES OF WORK
ARE SAFE AND CLEAN FOR
CUSTOMERS.
THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR TO US
BAKE INTO THE FORMULA, THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CLEANING
TIME PAID FOR.
NOT ONLY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR
PUBLIC HEALTH, BUT AS OUR
FINDINGS ALSO SAY AND WAS NOTED
IN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY THAT
THE DRIVERS ARE REWARDED BY OF
THE RATINGS FOR THEIR RIDERS
AND IF THEIR CAR IS NOT CLEAN,
THAT IS ALSO POTENTIALLY
HARMFUL FOR THE DRIVER'S
ABILITY TO MAKE WAGES THEY NEED
TO.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
COMPENSATE FOR THAT TIME.
I'M KIND OF CONSIDERING THIS
LIST OF ITEMS HERE FOR CLEANING
AND REST BREAKS AS A HEALTH
COMBINATION.
>> I FEEL THESE REASONABLE
EXPENSES INCLUDE SOME OF THE
SAME TYPES OF EXPENSES THAT THE
COUNCIL REQUIRED PAYMENT FOR IN
ITS PREMIUM PAY LEGISLATION FOR
FOOD DELIVERY DRIVERS, I JUST
WANT TO THANK KARINA FOR
DRAWING TO OUR ATTENTION RIGHT
BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED A
RECENT SETTLEMENT FROM THE
OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS OF
UPWARDS
OF
$361,000 FOR PREMIUM PAY AND SO
I THINK THAT REALLY UNDERSCORES
FOR US HERE TODAY THE
IMPORTANCE OF RECOGNIZING THESE
REASONABLE EXPENSES AND JUST
WANT TO ALSO THANK THE COUNCIL
AND THANK DRIVERS FOR WORKING
WITH US TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT
PREMIUM PAY LEGISLATION.
>> EXCELLENT POINT.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
>> SO WE TALKED ABOUT
UTILIZATION RATES.
THE NEXT AMENDMENT REGARDS THE
TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS THAT
ARE IN THE LEGISLATION WHICH
REQUIRE A VARIETY OF
INFORMATION TO BE SHARED WITH
THE DRIVERS AND WITH THE
PASSENGERS VIA AN ELECTRONIC
RECEIPT.
THE DRIVERS RECEIVE THIS
INFORMATION AFTER EACH UNIQUE
TRIP AND THEY ALSO RECEIVE A
WEEKLY NOTICE OF INFORMATION
THAT SUMMARIZES THINGS FOR
THEM.
SO THIS TRANSPARENCY
REQUIREMENT WOULD MANDATE
DRIVERS RECEIVE NOTICE OF WHAT
PASSENGERS PAY FOR EACH TRIP
AND THEN THE TOTAL OF PASSENGER
FARES FOR THE PRIOR WEEK WHICH
MEANS THAT THE DRIVER CAN LOOK
AT HOW MUCH THEY EARNED FROM
EACH TRIP AND LOOK AT HOW MUCH
THE PASSENGER PAID FOR EACH
TRIP AND KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING
AS FAR AS HOW THEIR TNCs ARE
CHARGING FOR THE TRIPS AS IT
COMPARES TO THEIR EARNINGS.
FOR PASSENGERS AS WELL THE TNCs
WOULD BE PROVIDING NOTICE FOR
COMPENSATION PAID TO THE DRIVER
WITH TIPS SEPARATELY ITEMIZED
AND THAT'S SO PASSENGERS CAN
ALSO HAVE A FULL AWARENESS OF
WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH HOW MUCH
THEY PAY AND HOW MUCH IS GOING
TO THE DRIVER.
>> I THINK THIS ONE IS PRETTY
SELF-EXPLANATORY, REMINDS ME OF
THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE ABOUT
PATRONS POTENTIALLY NOT TIPPING
BECAUSE THEY SEE A FEE IS
INCLUDED ON A RECEIPT.
SO THEY KNOW THINK IT GOES TO
THE WORKER.
IN THIS CASE WE DON'T WANT THE
DRIVERS TO NOT RECEIVE A TIP IF
THE PASSENGER BELIEVES IT'S
GETTING PASSED ON.
I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY NO FAULT
OF THE PASSENGER, BUT HAVING
TRANSPARENCY IS JUST CRITICAL
FOR BOTH THE DRIVER AND FOR THE
PASSENGER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN
KNOW HOW MUCH THE DRIVER IS
MAKING.
COLLEAGUES, QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
THANK YOU, KARINA.
>> NEXT IS A REQUIREMENT IN THE
LEGISLATION FOR STUDY OF THIS
MINIMUM COMPENSATION STANDARD
AND THE OTHER LABOR PROTECTIONS
ON THE INDUSTRY, ON THE
DRIVERS, ON PASSENGERS, ET
CETERA.
SO THE WAY IT IS TEED UP IN THE
INTRODUCED LEGISLATION IS THAT
COUNCIL WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY
AUDITOR TO PERFORM THIS TEST
AND IT WOULD HAPPEN WITHIN TWO
YEARS AFTER IMPLEMENTATION AND
THEN OLS WOULD HAVE DISCRETION
WHETHER OR NOT TO DECIDE TO DO
THEIR OWN STUDY AFTER THE FIRST
YEAR OF IMPLEMENTATION.
WITH THE AMENDMENT IN THE
SUBSTITUTE BILL ALL THE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR COORDINATING
THE STUDIES WOULD BE ASSIGNED
TO OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS
SINCE THEY'VE ALREADY BEGUN
THIS WORK AND THEY WOULD HAVE
THE ABILITY TO DO THE STUDY IN
THE FIRST YEAR.
COUNCIL'S STUDY WOULD TURN FROM
MANDATORY TO PERMISSIVE.
COUNCIL WOULD HAVE DISCRETION
ON WHETHER OR NOT TO ASK FOR A
STUDY AND IT WOULD BE SPECIFIED
THAT THE STUDY WOULD COVER THE
FIRST TWO YEARS OF
IMPLEMENTATION.
THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE STUDY
THAT THE COUNCIL COMMISSIONED
FOR THE SECURE SCHEDULING.
IT COVERS THE FIRST TWO YEARS
AND THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST FOR
STUDY WOULD BE DUE WITHIN THREE
YEARS OF IMPLEMENTATION.
SO WHAT THIS AMENDMENT
RECOGNIZES IS THAT OFFICE OF
LABOR STANDARDS HAS DONE A
BASELINE REPORT AND THAT THEY
HAVE THE CONNECTIONS.
THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED THIS
PROCESS AND THEY ESTIMATE
UPWARDS TO ABOUT 278,000 ON PER
YEAR OF CONDUCTING A STUDY WHEN
THE CITY AUDITOR DOES A STUDY.
BOTH WOULD CONTRACT WITH
ACADEMIC RESEARCHERS, BUT THE
STUDIES ARE QUITE VAST AND
CENTS STEPH AND COULD AND
COMPRESSIVE AND THERE ARE
SEVERAL THINGS GOING INTO THIS
AMENDMENT AND ASSIGNING THE
STUDY TO OLS.
>> THANK YOU, KARINA, FOR
REACHING OUT TO AUDITOR JONES.
FOLKS, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY
AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
IN TALKING WITH THEM I THINK
IT'S CLEAR OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS BEING THE ENTITY THAT
HAS ALREADY WORKED WITH THE
AUTHORS OF THE REPORT OR THE
STUDY ARE GREATLY POSITIONED OR
IN A GOOD POSITION TO FOLLOW UP
ON THAT ASSESSMENT THAT'S DONE
AND CONTINUE TO TRACK THIS IN
REALTIME.
SO I APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH
THE AUDITOR AND THEY'RE ALSO I
THINK HAVE A LOT ON THEIR
PLATE.
SO DOES OLS, BUT I THINK THIS
IS A BETTER FIT.
COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
THANK YOU, KARINA.
>> AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE
END OF THE AMENDMENTS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS
IN THE MEMO, ADD ADDITIONS TO
FINDINGS WHICH ARE ALREADY
REFERENCED.
THEY TALK ABOUT THE
JUSTIFICATION FOR ADDING
CLEANING TIME AND REST BREAKS.
THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL
CHANGES.
THERE WERE SOME REVISIONS TO
PENALTIES AND FINES TO REFLECT
THE FACT NOW OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS KNOWS WHAT THE RATE
OF INFLATION WILL BE FOR 2021.
SO THOSE PENALTIES AND FINES
COULD BE UPDATED IMMEDIATELY IN
THE LEGISLATION RATHER THAN IT
ALWAYS BEING A YEAR BEHIND AND
THE NEXT STEPS FOR THIS
LEGISLATION ARE A VOTE, A
CONSIDERATION OF THE SUBSTITUTE
BILL AND THEN THERE'S AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR A FULL COUNCIL
VOTE ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER
29th , THE NEXT FULL COUNCIL
MEETING.
>> KARINA, THIS WAS A VERY
HELPFUL PRESENTATION.
I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME
AND THINKING IN THE CHARTS TO
SHOW US TO VISUALLY REPRESENT
THE TIMES AND THIS IS VERY
HELPFUL.
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.
ARE THERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
ON THE SUBSTITUTE THAT WE HAVE
IN FRONT OF US?
OKAY.
I DON'T SEE ANY.
THIS IS NOT USUALLY SOMETHING
WE DO, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT
ABLE TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO
CIRCULATE THIS TO FOLKS BEFORE
DRAFTING IT I JUST WANTED TO
SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO
WANTS TO CO-SPONSOR THE
SUBSTITUTE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN
ITS MOTION.
IS THERE ANYONEWHO WOULD LIKE
TO ADD THEIR NAME AS A CO-
SPONSOR?
VICE-CHAIR HERBOLD, THANK YOU.
GONZALEZ, LEWIS AND STRAUSS, I
THINK THAT'S A FULL FINANCE AND
HOUSING COMMITTEE BILL THAT'S
COMING OUT IN FRONT OF US.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COLLEAGUES.
PLEASE GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER
LEWIS.
>> YOU SHOULD ASK WHO DOESN'T
WANT TO CO-SPONSOR IT.
>> THERE WE GO.
THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS
BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN THE
SUBSTITUTE?
OKAY.
WELL, PLEASE, KARINA, PASS ON
OUR APPRECIATION TO AMY GORE AS
WELL.
I KNOW SHE WORKED WITH YOU ON
THIS.
THE TEAM AT THE OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS, WE HEARD FROM THE
DIRECTOR AND KEREM LAST TIME.
WE APPRECIATE THE KNOWLEDGE AND
WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS FROM
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THANKS TO
THE MAYOR DIRECTLY, TO KILEY
ROTH, TO ANTHONY AND THE ENTIRE
TEAM THAT WORKED ON THIS,
ESPECIALLY THE FOLKS WORKING ON
THE STUDY AND WITH TNCs AND
DRIVERS AND DRIVERS UNION,
APPRECIATE THEIR WORK.
I WANT TO THANK OUR COLLEAGUES
IN THE COMMUNITY WHO I'VE HAD
THE CHANCE TO TALK TO A FEW
TIMES, LEFT AND UBER, THANK THE
TEAMSTERS 117 AND THE DRIVERS
ASSOCIATION FOLKS FOR OUR
CALLS.
THIS IS ONE MORE PIECE OF THE
PUZZLE WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER
AFTER A LONG SET OF YEARS AND
JUST BUILDING ON PREVIOUS
COUNCIL MEMBERS' WORK AND
DEDICATION TO BOTH GETTING THIS
INFORMATION PULLEDTOGETHER,
SOME OF WHOM ARE HERE IN THIS
COMMITTEE, THANK YOU, AND SOME
OF WHOM ARE NO LONGER ON
COUNCIL.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THEIR
WORK AS WELL.
COLLEAGUES, I MOVE THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BILL 119876 AND THEN WE
WILL AMEND.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
MOVED AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND
PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE
WE CONSIDER THE SUB?
HEARING NONE I MOVE THE COUNCIL
BILL 119876 BE AMENDED BY
SUBSTITUTING D2J FOR VERSION
D1.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THE
SUBSTITUTE?
SEEING NONE MADAM CLERK, WILL
YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE
ADOPTION OF THE SUBSTITUTE
BILL.
>> VICE-CHAIR HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
>> EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL
COLLEAGUES.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
THE SUBSTITUTE IS ADOPTED WITH
ALL YOUR NAMES LISTED AS CO-
SPONSORS.
THE BILL AS AMENDED WILL BE
BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS ON THE AMENDED BILL?
I'M SORRY, THIS IS BEFORE
COMMITTEE.
WE NEED TO VOTE ONCE MORE TO
GET IT BEFORE FULL COUNCIL.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS AT THIS POINT?
SEEING NONE.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I SAW YOUR HAND RAISED, FIX
THAT PROCESS.
MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BILL 119876 AS AMENDED.
>> VICE-CHAIR HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> SORRY.
I WAS ON MUTE.
YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
NOW THE MOTION HAS FULLY
CARRIED THIS COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
THE BILL PASS AS AMENDED WILL
BE SENT TO THE SEPTEMBER 29th
CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR FINAL
VOTE.
I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THAT WE
DO NEED TO SUSPEND THE COUNCIL
RULES TO SEND THE BILLS TO THE
SEPTEMBER 29th MEETING.
SO, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BECAUSE
THIS MEETING STARTED AFTER 12
NOON THE LEGISLATION THAT JUST
PASSED CANNOT BE SENT
IMMEDIATELY TO THE CITY COUNCIL
FULL COUNCIL UNLESS WE SUSPEND
COUNCIL RULES AND WITH ADVANCE
CONCURRENCE FROM THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THANK
YOU, HAS ALREADY AGREED TO
FORWARD BOTH BILLS TO THE
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29th CITY
COUNCIL AGENDA AND I'M HOPING
WITHOUT OBJECTION THAT THE
COUNCIL RULES RELATING TO
LEGISLATION PASSED AT THE
MEETING AFTER 12 NOON ON THIS
THURSDAY WILL BE SUSPENDED TO
ALLOW THE COUNCIL BILL TO BE
CONSIDERED ON TUESDAY,
SEPTEMBER 29th.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
HEARING NONE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
THE RULE IS SUSPENDED AND THE
BILL WILL BE SENT TO TUESDAY'S
CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR FINAL
CONSIDERATION.
KARINA, ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED
TO DO ON THIS?
>> NO.
I THINK IT'S ALL READY FOR
TUESDAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN.
THANKS TO THE TNC DRIVERS WHO
HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR
A VERY LONG TIME, AGAIN TO
MAYOR DURKAN, OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS, OUR ESSENTIAL STAFF
FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE DILIGENCE
AND ALL THE WORK WITH
STAKEHOLDERS.
I THINK WE CAN SAY WE ARE
ENDING SEPTEMBER AGAIN MAKING
HISTORY ON LABOR STANDARDS,
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND
LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING ON
TUESDAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S MOVE ON.
WE GOT TWO MORE ITEMS.
MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE
READ INTO THE RECORD ITEM
NUMBER TWO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, CAN I HAVE
SOME CLARIFICATION?
IS THIS THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE,
WHAT WAS NUMBER WASHINGTON?
>> YES, PLEASE, THANK YOU FOR
THE CLARIFICATION.
ITEM NUMBER TWO NOW IS LISTED
AS ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE
AGENDA.
>> COVID-19 RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AND
HOMEOWNER SUPPORT.
>> WE HAVE WITH US EMILY
ALVARADO DIRECTOR OF OFFICE AND
HOUSING.
WE HAVE LAUREN McGOWAN, SENIOR
DIRECTOR OF UNITED WAY OF KING
COUNTY, AND MICHELLE
MERRIWEATHER, CEO OF URBAN
LEAGUE OF METROPOLITAN SEATTLE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
EMILY, I THINK YOU HAVE A
PRESENTATION.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE YOUR
SCREEN, YOU'RE MORE THAN
WELCOME TO.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY TO
TALK WITH US ABOUT HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION, RENTAL ASSISTANCE
AND HOMEOWNER SUPPORT THE CITY
IS MAKING IN RESPONSE TO THE
COVID EMERGENCY.
WE KNOW MANY OF US CONTINUE TO
SAY STAY HOME TO STAY HEALTHY
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HOME TO
STAY HEALTHY IN THESE TIMES.
MUCH OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN
FRONT OF US TODAY IS MAKING IT
POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO STAY
HEALTHY ESPECIALLY DURING THIS
ECONOMIC RECESSION FOR PEOPLE
TO KEEP A HOME OR PREVENT THEM
FROM FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS
AND WE KNOW THIS HAS A RACIAL
EQUITY LENS TO IT RECOGNIZING
THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR OR BLACK
INDIGENOUS OR PEOPLE OF COLOR
POPULATION IS MORE LIKELY TO
FACE HOUSING INSECURITY AND
HOMELESSNESS AND ESPECIALLY
RIGHT NOW THE COMPOUNDING
HEALTH CRISES WITH THOSE LIVING
OUTSIDE HAVING NOT JUST HIGHER
RISK EXPOSURE TO COVID BUT ALSO
HAVING TO BREATHE THE POOR AIR
WE'VE HAD THE LAST TEN DAYS.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK
YOU'VE DONE, LOOKING FORWARD TO
HEARING MORE ABOUT THE WAYS IN
WHICH WE CAN HELP PEOPLE STAY
HOME, GET SHELTER AND STAY
HEALTHY.
I TURN IT OVER TO YOU, EMILY,
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL
MEMBER MOSQUEDA AND EVERYONE
ELSE ON CITY COUNCIL.
I'M TRYING OUT NEW HEADPHONES
HERE, SO FORGIVE ME.
ALSO UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE LOST
MICHELLE MERIWEATHER.
SHE HAD TO GO TO A BOARD
MEETING.
SHE SAID SHE WOULD FOLLOW UP
WITH COMMENTS TO COUNCIL JUST
TO TALK MORE FROM HER
PERSPECTIVE AS A BLACK LED
ORGANIZATION IN THE URBAN
LEAGUE.
YOU WILL HEAR FROM HER AND
SHE'S SORRY SHE HAD TO LEAVE.
>> I AM SORRY.
I DID NOT KNOW SHE HAD A HARD
STOP.
I WILL REACH OUT TO HER AS
WELL.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK
THAT THEY DO AND THANK YOU FOR
FLAGGING THAT.
>> I'LL JUMP IN.
THIS IS BREAKING DOWN AND
LOOKING AT WHAT APPROACH WE ARE
LOOKING INTO ON THE COVID-19
RENTAL ASSISTANCE, HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION AND HOMEOWNER
SUPPORT.
I WANT TO START OUT BY THANK
CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR
COMMITTING THIS SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF RESOURCE TO HELP
STABLIZE RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS
AND JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE
BACKGROUND AND I KNOW COUNCIL
MEMBER MOSQUEDA, YOU ALREADY
SET US UP PRETTY WELL, BUT THE
CENSUS BUREAU HAS BEEN
RELEASING THESE WEEKLY PULSE
SURVEYS DURING COVID AND FOR
THE SEATTLE AREA FROM THE
SEPTEMBER 7th TO SEPTEMBER 14th
WEEKLY SURVEY WE LEARNED THAT
14% OF ALL RENTERS ARE NOT
CURRENTLY CAUGHT UP ON RENT
PAYMENTS AND WE SAW SO
STRIKINGLY THE RACIAL
DISPARITIES IN THOSE WHO ARE
NOT CAUGHT UP ON RENT.
58% OF BLACK RENTER HOUSEHOLDS
ARE CURRENTLY NOT CAUGHT UP ON
RENT.
22% OF LATINO HOUSEHOLDS ARE
NOT CURRENTLY CAUGHT UP ON RENT
AS COMPARED TO 5% OF WHITE
HOUSEHOLDS.
LOOKING AHEAD, 17% OF RENTERS
HAVE NO OR ONLY SLIGHT
CONFIDENCE ABOUT MAKING NEXT
MONTH'S RENT PAYMENT.
SO REALLY THE WORK THAT WE'RE
DOING TO INSURE THAT THERE'S
BOTH ACCESS TO RENT ASSISTANCE,
THAT THERE'S TARGETED
STRATEGIES FOR HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION IS CRITICAL RACIAL
EQUITY WORK DURING COVID.
SO IN TODAY'S BRIEFING I WANTED
TO COVER A FEW THINGS.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF
FUN SOURCES COME TOGETHER AND A
SERIES OF STRATEGIES FOR HOW WE
CAN SPEND THOSE RESOURCES, WANT
TO TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION AND TURN IT OVER TO
MY TEAM MEMBER ERIKA MALONE TO
TALK ABOUT HOMEOWNER SUPPORTS.
SO FIRST OF ALL, THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT OF FUNDS IS REALLY
FOCUSED ON RENTAL ASSISTANC
AND OUR STRATEGY FOR RENT
ASSISTANCE WHEN WE CAME TO
COUNCIL MANY MONTHS AGO AND
TALKED ABOUT RENT ASSISTANCE
WAS REALLY THREEFOLD.
FIRST IT WAS LOOKING AT HOW DO
WE GET BROAD AWARENESS OUT WITH
AN EASY ONE STOP PLACE TO
ACCESS RENT ASSISTANCE WHILE
ALSO MAKING SURE THAT'S
DELIVERED IN A WAY THAT'S
FOCUSING ON RACIAL EQUITY?
WE DID SO THAT WAY BY CREATING
THE UNITED WAY RENT ASSISTANCE
PROGRAM AND WE'LL TALK MORE
ABOUT THAT.
THE SECOND PART OF OUR BROADER
STRATEGY WAS REALLY ABOUT
ADDRESSING NONPAYMENT OF RENT
AND CITY FUNDED AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
SO THESE ARE UNITS THE CITY HAS
INVESTED IN WHERE THERE ARE LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS WHO LIVE IN
THOSE UNITS AND BECAUSE OF AN
INABILITY TO GO TO WORK, JOB
LOSS OR OTHER INSECURITY PEOPLE
CAN'T PAY RENT AND WE'RE
WORKING TO STABILIZE FOLKS IN
THE LH PORTFOLIO AND THE THIRD
PART OF THIS THREE-PART
STRATEGY WAS REALLY LOOKING AT
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING
TARGETED HOMELESS PREVENTION
BUILDING OFF THE EXPERTISE OF
THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE IN PLACE
AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
BREAKING DOWN MONEY HERE, $12
MILLION WE ARE CONTRACTING TO
THE UNITED WAY OF KING COUNTY'S
HOME BASE PROGRAM.
YOU'LL HEAR FROM LAUREN ABOUT
SOME OF THE DETAIL THERE.
OF THAT 4 MILLION IS FROM THE
C.A.R.E.S.
ACT CRF WITH THE TIMELINE OF
WHICH THOSE FUNDS MUST BE
EXPENDED BY 2020 AND 8 MILLION
OF THE CONTRACTED OF UNITED WAY
WILL BE FOR 2021 MONEY FROM THE
CITY'S EMERGENCY FUNDS.
WE HAVE $4 MILLION FROM THE CRF
FUND AS WELL EXPENDED THROUGH
THE END OF THIS YEAR THAT WILL
BE ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING FOR CITY
FUNDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING
RESIDENTS.
YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR FROM
LAUREN, BUT TO TALK MORE ABOUT
THE FACT WE HAVE TWO YEARS NOW
TO DO A STRATEGY TO REALLY
SUPPORT RENTERS AND SUPPORT
RENTERS WITH A FOCUS ON RACIAL
EQUITY, OUR STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK
FOR THE CONTRACT WITH UNITED
WAY REALLY HAS TWO PARTS.
ONE,2020, WE HAVE THREE MONTHS
TO GET DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR AND
SERVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN.
UNITED WAY WILL TALK ABOUT HOW
THEY ARE INTENDING TO LEVERAGE
SOME EXISTING SYSTEMS IN PLACE
INCLUDING PARTNERSHIP WITH KING
COUNTY WHO JUST LAUNCHED A RENT
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THEY'RE
GOING TO INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL
STRATEGIES TO IMPROVE RACIAL
EQUITY OUTCOMES.
IN 2021 UNITED WAY WILL DO A
LITTLE BIT OF A PIVOT AND
LEVERAGING THEIR OLDER HOME-
BASED MODEL THAT FOCUSES MORE
ON EVICTION PREVENTION IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH FOLKS LIKE THE
HOUSING JUSTICE PROJECT TO
REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW ONCE THE
EVICTION MORATORIUM LIFTS FROM
SEATTLE, FROM OTHER PARTS, FROM
THE STATE, FROM THE FEDS, HOW
DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MOST
AT RISK OF EVICTION ARE THOSE
THAT WE'RE TARGETING OUR
RESOURCES TOWARDS?
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO
LAUREN TO TALK MORE ABOUT HOME
BASE.
>> GREAT.
THANKS, EMILY.
THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR
HAVING US HERE TODAY AND FOR
ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT.
IT'S INCREDIBLE TO LIVE IN A
COMMUNITY THAT BOTH UNDERSTANDS
THAT IT'S UNACCEPTABLE THAT SO
MANY PEOPLE IN OUR REGION
EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS AND
HOUSING INSECURITY AND THAT WE
ARE INVESTING SO MUCH IN RENTAL
ASSISTANCE AND EVICTION
PREVENTION.
WE ALL KNOW THAT WE HAD A
HOMELESSNESS CRISIS BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC, THAT FAR TOO MANY
PEOPLE WERE FALLING INTO
HOMELESSNESS PARTICULARLY
BECAUSE OF EVICTIONS AND THAT'S
WHY WE LAUNCHED THE HOME BASIS
PROJECT.
THAT PROGRAM HELPED OVER 1,000
HOUSEHOLDS STAY IN THEIR HOMES.
OVER 70% OF THEM WERE IPOC
FAMILIES AND WE REALLY WERE
ABLE TO BOTH PROVIDE FLEXIBLE
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND LEGAL
SERVICES TO KEEP THOSE FOLK
THIS THEIR HOMES.
UNFORTUNATELY WHEN COVID HIT,
SO MANY MORE PEOPLE BECAME
UNSTABLE AND WE ALL KNOW AS
EMILY JUST POINTED OUT HOW MANY
PEOPLE ARE BEHIND IN RENT, ARE
TAKING OUT ENORMOUS DEBT IN
ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PAY RENT
AND WHO ARE FALLING BEHIND
SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ABLE
TO WORK, THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF
THEIR KIDS AND NOT ABLE TO MEET
THEIR RENT DURING THIS
CHALLENGING TIME.
WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU AND
THE COUNTY AND LOCAL
PHILANTHROPY STEPPED UP TO HELP
US PIVOT THE HOME BASE PROGRAM
FROM A COURT-BASED EVICTION
STRATEGY INTO A RENTAL
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THIS SPRING.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, OVER 8,400
INDIVIDUALS ACROSS KING COUNTY
WERE SERVED BETWEEN APRIL AND
JULY.
MORE THAN 70% OF THOSE
HOUSEHOLDS THAT RECEIVED RENTAL
ASSISTANCE WERE FAMILIES OF
COLOR AND WE WERE ABLE TO FORM
REALLY IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIPS
WITH MANY OF THE LANDLORDS AND
PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES
TO NEGOTIATE PAYMENTS LESS THAN
WE INITIALLY EXPECTED.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS
PARTNERSHIP, WE THOUGHT WE'D
HELP ABOUT 2,000 HOUSEHOLDS.
WE WERE ABLE TO HELP OVER 3,000
AND IN MANY CASES FOR MULTIPLE
MONTHS BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO
STRETCH THOSE DOLLARS FURTHER
BECAUSE OF THE NEGOTIATED
RATES.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST ONE SECOND BEFORE WE GO
ON, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD HAD A QUICK QUESTION
RELATED TO I THINK THE PREVIOUS
SLIDE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE
SURE WE GOT THAT IN BEFORE WE
GOT TOO FAR IF THAT'S OKAY,
LAUREN.
>> THANK YOU.
THE QUESTION THAT I WAS HOPING
TO GET TO RELATES TO THE NUMBER
OF INDIVIDUALS SERVED BETWEEN
APRIL AND JULY.
THE SLIDE SAYS THAT THERE ARE
8,400 INDIVIDUALS SERVED, BUT
IT DOESN'T GIVE A SENSE OF HOW
MANY PEOPLE APPLIED.
I'M ASSUMING THAT WE WEREN'T
ABLE TO HELP EVERYBODY WHO
APPLIED.
SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO
UNDERSTAND HOW MANY PEOPLE
APPLIED REQUESTED THE
ASSISTANCE AND ALSO FOR THE
VIEWING PUBLIC IT WOULD BE
USEFUL TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT
YOU'RE STILL ACCEPTING NEW
APPLICATIONS.
>> YEAH.
GREAT QUESTIONS, COUNCIL
MEMBER.
WE RECEIVED OVER 7,000
APPLICATIONS IN A 48 HOUR
PERIOD.
THOSE ARE HOUSEHOLDS.
SO WE ENDED UP SERVING JUST
OVER 3,000 OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS.
ABOUT 50% OF THOSE THAT WERE
NOT SERVED WERE NOT SERVED
BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ELIGIBLE
FOR SOME REASON.
THEY DIDN'T FIT THE INCOME
CRITERIA. THEY WERE ABLE TO PAY
THEIR RENTS IN DIFFERENT WAYS
OR THEIR LANDLORD OR PROPERTY
MANAGEMENT COMPANY WOULDN'T
TAKE THE NEGOTIATED PAYMENT
RATE.
THERE ARE STILL FAMILIES WE ARE
HELPING FROM THAT INITIAL
PROCESS, BUT WE ARE NOW OUT OF
FUNDS FOR THAT PROCESS AND WE
WERE NEVER ABLE TO REOPEN IT TO
SERVE THE THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF FOLKS THAT WERE
CALLING OUR OFFICES, THE URBAN
LEAGUE, WELL SPRING AND MANY
OTHER AGENCIES ALL ACROSS THE
REGION, BUT NOW THAT THERE ARE
C.A.R.E.S.
ACT FUNDS --
>> LAUREN, AM I RIGHT TO SAY,
ALSO, OF THE 3,000 HOUSEHOLDS
THAT YOU'RE CITING 1,238
APPROXIMATELY WERE IN SEATTLE?
>> THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT.
>> A REFERENCE OF SEATTLE
RELATIVE TO THE REST OF THE
COUNTY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> YES, EMILY, YOU ARE CORRECT.
WHAT WE KNOW NOW IS KING COUNTY
GOVERNMENT HAS USED THEIR
C.A.R.E.S.
ACT FUNDS TO LAUNCH A RENTAL
ASSISTANCE PROCESS.
THEY HAVE A LOTTERY THAT
INDIVIDUALS ACROSS OUR
COMMUNITY CAN BE APPLYING FOR
RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE OVER 3,000 HOUSEHOLDS
FROM THE CITY OF SEATTLE THAT
HAVE APPLIED FOR THAT LOTTERY
AND MANY MORE THAT ARE PROBABLY
ELIGIBLE BUT DON'T KNOW ABOUT
IT YET.
SO OUR PLAN WITH THESE DOLLARS
IS TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT
THAT LOTTERY TICKETLY FOR
SEATTLE RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY
FOR THOSE FIPA FAMILIES AND
FAMILIES WHO MAY NOT BE HEARING
ABOUT THAT LOTTERY IN DIFFERENT
WAYS AND THEN WORK WITH THE
COUNTY TO INSURE THAT THOSE
SEATTLE RESIDENTS ARE SERVED.
SO WE WILL ACCEPT --
INDIVIDUALS CAN GO ONLINE.
THEY CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND
CLICK THROUGH TO ENTER THAT
LOTTERY.
SEATTLE RESIDENTS WILL BE
FORWARDED TO THE UNITED WAY
HOME-BASED PARTNERSHIP AND ONE
OF OUR AGENCY PARTNERS WILL
SERVE THOSE RESIDENTS.
WE THINK THIS STRATEGY WILL
HELP MAKE SURE THESE C.A.R.E.S.
ACT DOLLARS GET SPENT BY THE
END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, WHICH
IS REALLY CRITICAL, AND IT
PROVIDES A ONE-STOP PLACE FOR
EVERYONE WHETHER THEY'RE IN
SEATTLE OR ANOTHER PART OF THE
COUNTY TO GO TO ACCESS THESE
FUNDS.
WE ALSO KNOW THE NEED IS BIGGER
THAN THESE DOLLARS WILL ALLOW
US TO DO.
THAT'S WHY WE ALONG WITH OUR
PARTNERS ARE CONTINUING TO
ADVOCATE FOR ADDITIONAL RENT
RELIEF FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND WHY UNITED WAY
IS COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO
RAISE MONEY FROM LOCAL
PHILANTHROPY.
IT'S GOT TO BE A MIX OF BOTH,
BUT WE ARE STILL GOING TO NEED
SIGNIFICANT FEDERAL DOLLARS AS
WE HEAD INTO 2021.
AS WE LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE,
THERE'S SORT OF TWO PHASES TO
THIS WORK.
IT'S THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE
PIECE.
THAT INCLUDES URBAN LEAGUE,
SOLID GROUND, WELL SPRING
FAMILY SERVICES, NEIGHBORHOOD
HOUSE.
WELL ALSO PARTNER VERY CLOSELY
WITH THE HOUSING CONNECTOR AND
I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT HOW
IMPORTANT THESE PARTNERSHIPS
WITH LANDLORDS AND PROPERTY
MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ARE.
REALLY WORKING WITH THEM TO
TAKE THESE DISCOUNTS RATES AND
STRETCH DOLLARS AS FAR AS WE
CAN AND HAVE A CLAUSE THAT
FAMILIES CAN'T BE EVICTED FOR
ECONOMIC REASONS DURING THIS
TIME I THINK WILL HELP AT LEAST
RELIEVE SOME STRESS FROM THE
FAMILIES THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING
TO SERVE.
AS WE MOVE INTO 2021, THE
ADDITIONAL FUNDS OF $8 MILLION
ARE REALLY GOING TO HELP US
FOCUS BACK IN WHO IS MOST
LIKELY TO BE EVICTED IN SEATTLE
AND PROVIDE A COMBINATION OF
LEGAL SERVICES AND DEBT
REPAYMENT THROUGH FLEXIBLE
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO KEEP
PEOPLE FROM BEING EVICTED AND
THAT IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF
WORK, FOLKS.
WE KNOW THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
THAT ARE GOING TO FACE
EVICTIONS IS REALLY AT A CRISIS
POINT.
AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE
THESE FUNDS.
I THINK THIS WILL HELP SPUR
SOME CREATIVE THINKING, SOME
GOOD PARTNERSHIPS AND DEVELOP A
VERY EQUITY-FOCUSED STRATEGY
FOR KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR
HOMES.
SO RIGHT NOW IF FOLKS IN OUR
COMMUNITY ARE LOOKING FOR
RENTAL ASSISTANCE, THEY CAN
VISIT OUR WEBSITE THAT WILL
TAKE THEM TO THE KING COUNTY
LOTTERY AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK IN THE WEEKS TO COME TO
INCREASE AWARENESS OF THAT
PROCESS.
FOLKS CAN APPLY AT ANY TIME.
THE LOTTERY IS PULLED ONCE A
WEEK.
SO WHETHER YOU APPLY TODAY OR
NEXT WEEK, THERE'S STILL TIME
FOR OUR SEATTLE FAMILIES TO DO
THAT AND UNITED WAY IS VERY
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH OUR
COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO INCREASE
AWARENESS OF THOSE SERVICES AND
THEN INSURE WE DO EVERYTHING WE
CAN TO GET FAMILIES THAT ARE
PULLED FROM THAT LOTTERY, GET
THEM QUALIFIED AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE, GET FUNDING OUT THE
DOOR SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO
SERVE MORE FAMILIES.
>> ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION
IF I COULD JUMP IN, LAUREN, IS
PART OF WHY WE'RE LEVERAGING
THE COUNTY'S SYSTEM IS THAT
THEY HAVE A COUPLE THINGS IN
PLACE ALREADY THAT WE THINK ARE
REALLY CRITICAL, ONE, THE
APPLICATION AND PROCESS HAS
BEEN TRANSLATED INTO ALL OF THE
-- IS IT 11 LANGUAGES?
>> IT'S OVER 20.
>> OVER 20 LANGUAGES.
SO THAT LANGUAGE ACCESS PIECE
IS ALREADY BUILT IN.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING
WE WOULD OTHERWISE SPEND MONEY
ON.
SO HOW WE CAN THEN HELP SUPPORT
THIS WORK IS BY OUR TARGETED
OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT WITH
OTHER KINDS OF SEATTLE
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS
WHO CAN WORK WITH THEIR CLIENTS
AND PARTNERS AND COMMUNITY
MEMBERS TO INSURE THAT THERE
ARE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE
HEADED INTO THIS SYSTEM.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANKS.
I JUST WANT TO NOTE, TOO, I
BELIEVE THAT THE COUNCIL IN OUR
LAST ALLOCATION OR PLAN TO
ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE
ALSO EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN A
FUND THAT WAS TARGETED TOWARDS
SMALL LANDLORDS AND AS I
UNDERSTAND IT, THE COUNTY RENT
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM ALREADY HAS
THAT.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER I THINK GOOD
REASON TO LEVERAGE THE COUNTY'S
NEW PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY HAVE
BUILT IN A COMPONENT THAT WAS A
HIGH PRIORITY TO THIS COUNCIL.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
OTHER QUESTIONS?
OTHERWISE I'LL KEEP GOING.
>> PLEASE KEEP GOING.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS I'LL
TOLD TILL THE END.
>> OKAY.
OUR NEXT KEY APPROACH AROUND
RENTAL ASSISTANCE WILL BE THE
$4 MILLION I DISCUSSED EARLIER
THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED TO THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING.
WE'LL ADMINISTER IT TO OUR CITY
FUNDED HOUSING PORTFOLIO.
JUST TO GIVE A REMINDER, WE
ALREADY, COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR,
ALLOCATED 1.4 MILLION
PREVIOUSLY TO SUPPORT THIS
WORK.
WE MADE AWARDS TO 17 AGENCIES
THAT APPLIED FOR THAT
ASSISTANCE AND THERE WERE 1,238
ORIGINAL HOUSEHOLDS WHO NEEDED
ASSISTANCE.
FOR TRANSPARENCY, IT IS CDBG ,
SO WE'RE WORKING SLOWLY TO MAKE
SURE WE'RE CUTTING CHECKS TO
THOSE HOUSEHOLDS.
WE ARE SEEING IN OUR OFFICE OF
HOUSING SUBSIDIZED PORTFOLIO IN
JUNE AND JULY A PRECIPITOUS
INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF
NONPAYMENT OF RENT.
SO WE'RE REALLY HOPEFUL THAT
THIS $4 MILLION WILL HAVE A
MEANINGFUL IMPACT IN
STABILIZING SOME OF THOSE
SIGNIFICANTLY AT-RISK LOW
INCOME TENANTS WHO ARE ALREADY
IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.
WE ALSO ALLOCATED $2.8 MILLION
OF CDBG INTO HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION PROGRAMS.
AS YOU WELL KNOW, THE SEATTLE
HOUSING LEVY AND OTHER FUNDS
HAVE BEEN USED MANY YEARS BY
THE CITY TO SUPPORT
HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION WITH
CONTRACTS THROUGH MANY
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS.
YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY
PARTNERS LISTED THERE AND WE
INTEND TO CONTINUE AND GROW THE
CONTRACTS WITH THOSE AGENCIES
IN ORDER TO DELIVER THIS $2.8
MILLION.
I'LL SAY THAT I THINK THAT
THESE STRATEGIES REALLY WORK
TOGETHER.
YOU SEE A RANGE OF AGENCIES
THAT ARE MEETING THAT HAVE
DIFFERENT KINDS OF CULTURAL
COMPETENCIES, COMMUNITY
CONNECTIONS, LANGUAGE ACCESS
AND THEY'LL BE VERY WELL
POSITIONED TO SERVE DIVERSE
POPULATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.
SO THAT IS SUM OF RENT
STRATEGIES AND I CAN TURN IT
OVER TO ERIKA TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT WE ARE DOING TO STABILIZE
HOMEOWNERS UNLESS THERE ARE
QUESTIONS.
>> COULD WE GO BACK ONE SLIDE
HERE REAL QUICK.
ON THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS PIECE
AND ALSO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
THE SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED THE
COMMUNITY PARTNERS, THERE'S A
QUESTION FROM ONE OF OUR
COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE
ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT.
HOW MUCH ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT
ARE WE ABLE TO GET TO THE
PEOPLE OF COLOR LED
ORGANIZATIONS FOR THEIR OWN
ADMIN AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR
FOLKS?
I KNOW WE'RE ASKING A LOT OF
OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS HERE AND
WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
GIVING THEM THAT SUPPORT.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT
HOW MUCH TOTAL MONEY IS GOING
TO OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS,
PEOPLE OF COLOR LED
ORGANIZATIONS VERSUS THE
OVERALL COSTS FOR ADMIN?
>> GOOD QUESTIONS.
I ECHO YOUR COLLEAGUE'S
INTEREST AND COMMITMENT TO
PROVIDING CAPACITY AND SUPPORT
FOR THE AGENCIES DOING THIS
IMPORTANT WORK AND I OFTEN
THINK WE OVERLOOK THAT.
SO THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION.
I WILL NEED TO CONFIRM THE RATE
OF THE HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION
CONTRACTS TO DATE.
I BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE
RUNNING AT ABOUT 10% ADMIN FOR
THOSE CONTRACTS AND, LAUREN, DO
YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON UNITED
WAY?
>> YEAH.
FOR THIS PARTICULAR GRANT THERE
IS I BELIEVE A CAP OF 10%, BUT
WHAT UNITED WAY IS DOING IS
LEVERAGING SOME PHILANTHROPIC
DOLLARS TO INCREASE CAPACITY
BECAUSE IN GENERAL THE
C.A.R.E.S.
ACT MONEY HAS BEEN REALLY
CHALLENGING WITH ADMIN CAPS.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST ON THIS RENTAL ASSISTANCE,
TRACI, I'M HOPING BEFORE WE
WRAP UP IF THERE'S A
POSSIBILITY FOR US TO DO A
QUICK COMPARISON AT THE END ON
HOW MUCH MONEY WENT INTO THESE
ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FROM THE
JUMP START COVID RELIEF
ASSISTANCE BUCKET AND IT MIGHT
TAKE A MINUTE TO DIG THAT UP,
BUT SORT OF OUR ORIGINAL
PROJECTIONS AND THEN WHAT ENDED
UP GOING OVER WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SO IF I COULD PING YOU ON THAT,
WE CAN COME BACK LATER, TOO,
THAT'S HELPFUL.
THANK YOU, TRACI.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S KEEP GOING.
>> THANK YOU.
ERIKA, DO YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT OUR HOMEOWNER SUPPORTS?
IS.
>> GLAD TO.
FIRST I WANT TO ECHO GRATITUDE
TO THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR FOR
COMING UP WITH THESE REALLY
VITAL RESOURCES TO KEEP PEOPLE
HOUSED IN THIS IMPORTANT TIME.
$700,000 ARE GOING TO
COUNSELING AGENCIES TO ADVOCATE
FOR HOMEOWNERS WITH THEIR
SERVICERS AND HALF OF THAT IS
GOING DIRECTLY TO THOSE
COUNSELING SERVICES AND IS HALF
WILL GO TO DIRECT FORECLOSURE
PREVENTION LOANS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY USING LEVY
FUNDS TO PROVIDE SILENT SECOND
DEFERRED UNTIL RESALE OR
REFINANCED LOANS TO HOMEOWNERS,
INCOME ELIGIBLE HOMEOWNERS AT
OR BELOW 80% OF VERY MEDIAN
INCOME IN ORDER TO BECOME
CURRENT ON THEIR MORTGAGE, PAY
BACK TAXES AND/OR HOMEOWNERSHIP
ASSOCIATION DUES AND THAT'S
ACTUALLY A REALLY GREAT USE OF
THOSE FUNDS THAT NOT A LOT OF
FORECLOSURE PREVENTION FUNDING
IS ABLE TO BE USED FOR, THOSE
OTHER SORT OF ANCILLARY HOUSING
COSTS.
SO WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP
WITH HOME SITE WHO IS DOING
DIRECT LENDING OF THOSE
FORECLOSURE PROTECTION LOANS
AND WITH THE WASHINGTON
RESOURCE CENTER WE'RE
UNDERTAKING THE COMMUNITY
OUTREACH STRATEGY IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO INSURE
THAT OUR MOST VULNERABLE HOME
OWNING NEIGHBORS ARE AWARE OF
THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH
ADVOCACY AND COUNSELING, BUT
ALSO THE DIRECT FINANCIAL
SUPPORT THAT IS AVAILABLE, BOTH
THROUGH HOUSING LEVY FUNDS AND
THESE NEW RESOURCES AS WELL.
WE'RE WORKING WITH SEVERAL
SPECIFIC COMMUNITY MEDIA
ORGANIZATIONS HOPEFULLY PLACING
A FUTURE ARTICLE OF SOMEONE WHO
HAS BEEN HELPED THROUGH THESE
RESOURCES ALONG WITH SOME
STRATEGIC AD PLACEMENT.
WE'VE ALSO TRANSLATED JUST A
BRIEF BLURB IF YOU'RE HAVING
TROUBLE MAKING YOUR HOUSE
PAYMENT.
WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THE
WORD OUT AS FAR AND WIDE AS
POSSIBLE SO FOLKS CAN ACCESS
THESE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT
RESOURCES.
>> IT'S ALSO WORTH POINTING
OUT, ERIKA, THE WASHINGTON
HOMEOWNERS RESOURCE CENTER IS A
STATEWIDE NONPROFIT DESIGNED TO
SUPPORT HOMEOWNERS AND AS WE
DRIVE HOMEOWNERS TO THEM TO GET
SUPPORT, THEY HAVE COMPLETE
LIVE LANGUAGE TRANSLATION AND
ACCESS TO REALLY BE SUPPORTING
A RANGE OF FOLKS.
HOME SITE IS A CDFI IN
SOUTHEAST SEATTLE AND HAS A
LONG HISTORY OF WORKING WITH
DIVERSE POPULATIONS IN BIPOC
HOUSEHOLDS ALREADY IS, WE'RE
BUILDING OFF OUR LEVY
PARTNERSHIPS TO EXPAND THIS NEW
RESOURCE OF $700,000.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHETHER OR
NOT THE KING COUNTY SHERIFF'S
ORDER TO NOT BE -- ASIDE FROM
THE EVICTION MORATORIUM, THE
KING COUNTY SHERIFF ISSUED A
POLICY THAT NOT ONLY WOULD SHE
NOT BE EXERCISING EVICTIONS
THAT WERE, OF COURSE, COVERED
BY THE EVICTION MORATORIUM, BUT
THAT SHE WAS NOT GOING TO BE
DOING THE FORECLOSURES, DOES
ANYBODY KNOW IF THAT'S STILL IN
PLACE?
>> I DO NOT KNOW.
THERE ARE VARIOUS MORATORIUMS
FOR FEDERALLY-BACKED MORTGAGES
THAT ARE IN PLACE.
MANY FOLKS ARE IN FORBEARANCE
NOW.
THERE ARE SOME PRIVATELY HELD
MORTGAGES THAT CERTAINLY COULD
GO FORWARD IN THE FORECLOSURE
PROCESS.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE SHERIFF
STANDS ON ACTUALLY REMOVING
PEOPLE.
>> WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT
PEOPLE ARE BEING KICKED OUT OF
THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF -- IT
JUST SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE THIS
PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE FROM
BEING KICKED OUT OF THEIR HOMES
BECAUSE OF THEIR INABILITY TO
PAY THEIR MORTGAGE.
WE WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF AN
IDEA WHAT THE CURRENT PRACTICES
ARE.
I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO HELP
PEOPLE PAY THEIR DEBTS
REGARDLESS WHETHER OR NOT NOT
PAYING THEIR DEBTS RESULTS IN
THEIR BEING KICKED OUT OF THEIR
HOMES, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL
TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT
PRACTICE IS NOT BEING CARRIED
OUT BY THE SHERIFF ANY LONGER
CONSISTENT WITH THE DECISION
THAT SHE MADE, WHATEVER IT WAS,
BACK IN APRIL OR WHETHER OR NOT
THE SHERIFF HAS NOW RESUMED
ENFORCING FORECLOSURES.
>> I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK MORE
INTO THE SHERIFF'S ACTIONS AND
HOW THAT'S PLAYING OUT LOCALLY
AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
I THINK ERIKA DID PRESENT THIS
MORNING AT OUR LEVY OVERSIGHT
COMMISSION SOME MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S
HAPPENING GENERALLY IN THE
HOMEOWNERSHIP MARKET.
ERIKA, YOU'RE PROBABLY BETTER
OFF DESCRIBING, BUT HOW WE'RE
PLANNING FOR INTERVENTION IS
WE'RE NOTSEEING THE NEED OF
IMMEDIATE INTERVENTION AT THE
FORECLOSURE MODE NOW.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WILL
HAPPEN FOR PARTICULARLY AT RISK
HOUSEHOLDS THIS 2021.
SO A WORRY REALLY TAKING AN
APPROACH TO SUPPORTING FOLKS
FIRST WITH AWARENESS KNOWING
THAT THAT WAVE WILL BE COMING
LATER.
ERIKA, DID I SAY THAT WRONG?
>> NO, THAT'S RIGHT.
MOST -- 90% OF MORTGAGE HOLDERS
IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW ARE
COVERED BY THE VARIOUS FEDERAL
FORECLOSURE MORATORIUMS.
MANY ARE IN FORBEARANCE AND THE
FIRST WAVE OF FOLKS COMING OUT
OF LOAN FORBEARANCE IS LIKELY
TO BE IN EARLY SPRING, LATE
WINTER, FEBRUARY.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET THE
INFORMATION OUT.
SO IF WE'LL ARE ANTICIPATING
HAVING TROUBLE MAKING THEIR
HOUSING PAYMENTS ONCE THEIR
FORBEARANCE IS EXPIRED, THAT
THEY WOULD KNOW WHERE TO FIND
RESOURCES, ADVOCACY AND
FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
>> THANK YOU.
SO YEAH.
MY QUESTION IS OF THE MORTGAGES
THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY THE
MORATORIUM, DO WE KNOW WHETHER
OR NOT THERE ARE COURT-ORDERED
FORECLOSURES THAT ARE BEING
ENFORCED BY THE KING COUNTY
SHERIFF?
AND I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
FOR US TO KNOW THAT IN OUR
ASSESSMENT OF HOW TO HELP
PEOPLE.
THAT JUST I THINK IS
INFORMATION THAT IS USEFUL IN
ALLOWING US TO DO THAT.
>> AGREED.
>> TO MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THANKS FOR THAT.
>> WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE MORE
MINUTES.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE AT THE END
OF THAT PRESENTATION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
ON THIS FIRST TOPIC FROM OUR
FRIENDS FROM HOUSING?
PLEASE PASS ON OUR APPRECIATION
TO URBAN LEAGUE.
WE WILL MAKE SURE TO REACH OUT
AS WELL.
NOT SEEING ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
TRACI, I'M NOT SURE IF WE WANT
TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION
LATER, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT
SOME OF THE MONEY THAT CAME
FROM THE COVID JUMP START
RELIEF PACKAGE.
I KNOW IT WAS A COMBINATION OF
FUNDING ANNOUNCED EARLIER WITH
THE 19 MILLION THAT WENT OUT
THIS YEAR.
A PORTION OF THAT CAME FROM
JUMP START, BUT GIVEN THE HARD
WORK THAT WENT INTO THE PACKET
FROM THIS COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY
AMOUNT YOU MIGHT WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT FOR THIS COUNCIL AS
WELL?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN
SEE ME.
>> WE CAN.
>> OH, GOOD.
I LOST YOU ON MY SCREEN TRYING
FIND SOME OTHER DOCUMENTS.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU FOR SURE IS
IN THE AGREEMENT WE REACHED
WITH THE EXECUTIVE ON THE $45
MILLION AMOUNT UTILIZING
EMERGENCY FUNDS, $8 MILLION
WILL ACTUALLY BE ALLOCATED IN
2021 FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCES AND
I BELIEVE THE INTENT IS THAT $8
MILLION WOULD GO TO THE UNITED
WAY, KING COUNTY AS THEY
DISCUSSED TO ADDRESS THE POST
EVICTION MORATORIUM LIKELY
ACTIVITY THAT WILL HAPPEN.
I CAN'T ACCESS THE DOCUMENT
ABOUT WHAT WE HAD LOOKED AT IN
TERMS OF THE PROPOSED $96
MILLION ORIGINALLY, BUT I CAN
FIND THAT AND GET IT TO YOU
AFTER THE MEETING.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, REALLY
APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT WORK.
IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR ORIGINAL
BILL INCLUDED 19.5 MILLION FOR
EXISTING HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND RENTAL
ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FOR
INDIVIDUALS AND THE UNITED WAY
HOME BASED PROGRAM AND OTHERS.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO SHOW WE DON'T GET
TO SEE TANGIBLE WIDGETS THAT
THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR PRODUCE
AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THIS
REPORT TO SHOW HOW THAT EFFORT
IS REALLY TRANSLATING INTO
ASSISTANCE, BUT I THINK ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED,
LAUREN, AND I BELIEVE HAS BEEN
REITERATED BY OTHER BRENTERS IS
A PORTION OF THE FOLKS THAT
HAVE APPLIED ARE GETTING
THROUGH THE DOOR.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK TO
YOU ALL AND COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD, VICE-CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE, REALLY LIFTING UP
THE NEED AND UNMET NEED OUT
THERE WILL BE HELPFUL FOR US TO
KNOW WHEN CONSIDERING THE
UPCOMING BUDGET.
>> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF
YOUR TIME, ERIKA, LAUREN.
I MIGHT BE KEEPING YOU ON THE
LINE.
>> YOU'RE KEEPING ERIKA ON THE
LINE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WITH THAT WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON
TO ITEM NUMBER ON OUR AGENDA
TODAY, WHICH IS OUR LAST ITEM
FOR CONSIDERATION WITH OUR
REVISED AGENDA.
DO YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
TWO INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO,
COUNCIL BILL 119 HAD 890,AN
ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
TRANSFER OF CITY REAL PROPERTY
FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT;
TRANSFERRING THE JURISDICTION
OF A 1-FOOT STRIP OF THE
PROPERTY FROM THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY
PURPOSES.
>> THIS IS A SMALL BUT REALLY
EXCITING PIECE OF LEGISLATION
TO ENABLE THE CITY TO UTILIZE
CITY-OWNED PROPERTY TO BE USED
FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, PUBLIC
BENEFITS SUCH AS AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND TO MAKE SURE THAT
THAT PROPERTY GETS A CHANCE TO
BE TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY, I'M
SORRY, TO ENABLE THE CITY AND
UTILITY-OWNED PROPERTIES TO BE
TRANSFERRED AT NO COST
BEGINNING WITH COMMUNITY AND
HOUSING ADVOCATES PUSHING FOR
THIS POLICY CHANGE.
TODAY WE ARE HERE TAKING OUR
NEXT STEP.
AS WE KNOW, THE PRICE OF LAND
IS CONTINUING TO INCREASE IN
SEATTLE AND HAS OVER THE LAST
DECADE AND THERE'S GREATER
COMPETITION FOR LIVING IN THIS
AREA REGARDLESS OF THIS
RECESSION AS WE'VE SEEN FROM
THE NATIONAL STATISTICS.
FOLKS IN THIS AREA LARGELY
CONTINUE TO SEE INCOME GAP
WIDEN AND PEOPLE AT THE HIGHEST
INCOMES CONTINUING TO MAKE
SALARIES AND PURCHASE HOMES.
THE COST OF HOUSING CONTINUES
TO GO UP AND THERE'S VERY
COMPETITIVE MARKET OUT THERE.
WITH GREATER COMPETITION IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE
LOOKING AT BUILDING AFFORD
PANEL HOUSING AND I'M REALLY
EXCITED ABOUT THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TRACI OR
ERIKA.
I'LL LET TRACI KICK THIS OFF
PERHAPS.
>> WE'RE HERE IN SOME RESPECTS
TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS WE
ACTUALLY STARTED I THINK A YEAR
AGO WHEN WE AUTHORIZED TRANSFER
OF THIS SURPLUS CITY PROPERTY
FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISPOSING
OF IT TO AN ELIGIBLE HOUSING
DEVELOPER FOR AFFORDABLE
HOMEOWNERSHIP.
THEY HAVE DONE THE RP,
IDENTIFIED THE DEVELOPER AND
ARE READY TO FORMALLY TRANSFER
THAT PROPERTY TO THE NONPROFIT
DEVELOPER.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS LEGISLATION
WOULD DO.
I'LL LET ERIKA TALK ABOUT WHAT
IT IS THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP
ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
>> THANKS, J.C.
IT WAS A YEAR AGO TO THE DAY
WHEN I WAS BUILDING THE SLIDES.
ALL I HAD TO DO WAS CHANGE THE
HERE.
>> THAT'S AMAZING.
>> JUST A QUICK REFRESHER.
THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN
LOYAL HEIGHTS, CLOSE TO
TRANSIT, CLOSE TO SERVICES,
WHITTIER ELEMENTARY, LOYAL
HEIGHTS COMMUNITY CENTER,
CORNER OF 28th AND 80th
ESSENTIALLY.
SO ROUGHLY 8,000 SQUARE FOOT
PIECE OF PROPERTY ZONED LR2
RIGHT ON THE 18 EXPRESS LINE
AND THE NUMBER 40.
SO IT'S JUST A FABULOUS
LOCATION.
WE DID COME TO YOU LAST YEAR
AND YOU APPROVED THE TRANSFER
OF THE PROPERTY FROM CITY LIGHT
TO OH.
THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE RFP
PROJECT PROCESS WE SELECTED
HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AS OUR
PREFERRED DEVELOPER AND THEY
NOW -- THEY'RE READY TO START
CONSTRUCTION.
SO I SHOULD SAY AT THAT TIME A
YEAR AGO YOU APPROVED THE
TRANSFER OF TWO PIECES OF
PROPERTY, ONE AT FINNY RIDGE AS
WELL AND WE'RE STILL WORKING
WITH OUR PREFERRED DEVELOPER ON
THAT SITE, HOMESTEAD COMMUNITY
LAND TRUST, TO GET THEIR PLANS
APPROVED AND BE READY TO MOVE
FORWARD IN CONSTRUCTION WITH
THAT PROJECT.
IT'S A SLIGHTLY MORE COMPLEX
TRANSACTION, BUT WE'RE READY
FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BE
TRANSFERRED.
THE LEGISLATION, AS TRACI
MENTIONED, AUTHORIZES THE BULK
OF THE PROPERTY TO BE
TRANSFERRED FROM OH TO HABITAT.
THERE IS A SMALL ONE FOOT PIECE
ON THE BACK THAT IS FOR AN
ALLEY DEDICATION THAT JUST
NEEDS A JURISDICTIONAL TRANSFER
TO SDOT.
IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS NO-COST
TRANSFER, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY
WILL BE BUILDING SEVEN THREE-
BEDROOM TOWNHOMES THAT WILL BE
SOLD TO HOUSEHOLDS WITH INCOMES
AT OR BELOW 80% FOR AFFORDABLE
PRICES.
AND THAT AFFORDABLE PRICE IS
GOING TO BE AROUND $175,000.
SO ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN SHOPPING
THESE DAYS KNOWS THAT THAT IS
VERY, VERY AFFORDABLE RELATIVE
TO MARKET, BUT MOST
IMPORTANTLY, AFFORDABLE TO OUR
TARGET INCOME MARKET.
THEY ORIGINALLY HAD PROPOSED
EIGHT TOWNHOMES AND THEY ARE
REALLY EXCEPTIONAL IN THEIR
SORT OF GOOD NEIGHBOR WORK AND
BECAUSE OF THE TREES TO THE
SOUTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY
THEY DETERMINED THEY COULD
BUILD SEVEN WITHOUT DISRUPTING
THE ROOT ZONES OF THOSE TREES
AND I REMEMBER THEN COUNCIL
MEMBER BAGSHAW ASKING A
QUESTION A YEAR AGO AT THIS
SAME CONVERSATION ABOUT THE
TREES.
SO IF SHE'S OUT THERE
LISTENING, WE'RE SAVING THE
TREES.
ALL RIGHT.
SO BECAUSE OF THE 50-YEAR
AFFORDABLE COVENANT THAT OH
WILL RECORD, WE KNOW THAT THESE
HOMES BEING BUILT AT ALL
SUBSEQUENT RESALES WITHIN THAT
50-YEAR PERIOD WILL ALSO BE
SOLD TO INCOME ELIGIBLE BUYERS
FOR AFFORDABLE PRICES, BUT
BECAUSE OF HABITAT'S MISSION,
THEY UTILIZE A 99 YEAR
RENEWABLE INHERITABLE GROUND
LEASE MUCH LIKE HOMESTEAD
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
THE HOMES WILL BE PERMANENTLY
FOURABLE, AFFORDABLE FOREVER IN
NORTHWEST SEATTLE TO FAMILIES
AND I THINK THAT'S THE END OF
MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON I WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU AS WELL TO DANIEL
MURILLO.
I SEE YOU ON HERE AS WELL FROM
OUR OFFICE OF HOUSING, EXCITED
TO HAVE YOU.
I KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE POLICY
AND EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT
MANAGER WHICH IS A VERY COOL
TITLE.
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD BEFORE WE
TAKE COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS?
>> NO, I DO NOT.
THANK YOU, ERIKA.
THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EXCITING
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME
PERMANENT AFFORDABILITY IN THE
HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA.
SO THANK YOU.
>> EXCELLENT.
WONDERFUL.
SPEAKING OF LOVING TREES AND
BEING A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR
TREES, DAN STRAUSS, COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS.
WOULD YOU LIKING TO AHEAD?
I SAW YOUR HAND UP.
>> YEAH.
úTHANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN
MOSQUEDA.
ERIKA, I HEARD YOU SAY, BUT IT
WENT VERY QUICKLY.
WHAT IS THE PRICE POINT OF
THESE UNITS AND YOU MENTIONED
THAT THERE'S A 50-YEAR COVENANT
FOR AFFORDABILITY.
CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME AGAIN
THOSE DETAILS HOW DO WE KEEP
THESE AFFORDABLE, WHAT WILL
THOSE RATES BE AND WHO IS GOING
TO BENEFIT?
>> ABSOLUTELY, YES.
THE TARGET PRICE POINT IS
$175,000 AND THAT IS MADE
AFFORDABLE BY THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING'S INVESTMENT WITH SOME
OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY'S
DIRECT INVESTMENT.
SO THE COST OF EACH OF THE
HOMES IS ABOUT 220.
COST TO BUILD IS ABOUT 280,
EXCUSE ME, BUT THEY'LL BE SOLD
FOR $175,000.
OF COURSE, THEY'RE ABLE TO COME
IN AT THAT LOW COST DUE TO A
LOT OF DONATED MATERIALS AND
DONATED LABOR.
THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF HABITAT
FOR HUMANITY'S MODEL.
THE COVENANT -- I'LL SPEAK TO
ACTUALLY THE GROUND LAYING.
THEY BOTH ACTUALLY ALIGN.
OH'S COVENANT IS 50 YEARS.
THE GROUND LEASE FROM HABITAT
FOR HUMANITY IS 99 YEARS
RENEWABLE AND INHERITABLE.
SO IT IS ESSENTIALLY IN
PERPETUITY.
HABITAT FOR HUMANITY WILL
CONTINUE TO OWN THE LAND AND
LEASE THE LAND TO THE
HOMEOWNERS ON WHICH THEIR HOMES
SIT AND SO IN EXCHANGE
ESSENTIALLY FOR THIS GOOD DEAL,
FOR THE FIRST HOMEBUYERS, THEY
AGREE TO WHEN OR IF THEY SELL
THEIR HOME TO DO SO AT AN
AFFORDABLE PRICE TO THE NEXT
BUYER.
THEY HAVE A RESALE FORMULA
WHICH BALANCES THE EQUITY THAT
A HOME SELLER WOULD GET UPON
LEAVING WITH THE AFFORDABILITY
FOR THE NEXT HOUSEHOLD.
>> THAT'S REALLY EXCELLENT TO
HEAR.
IT ALLOWS FOR THAT GENERATIONAL
WEALTH TO BE BUILT AND FOR
AFFORDABILITY TO CONTINUE TO
EXIST.
CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME IS THERE
AN AREA MEDIAN INCOME
REQUIREMENT TO PURCHASE THESE?
HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHO IS
ELIGIBLE TO PURCHASE THESE
HOMES?
>> YEAH.
GREAT QUESTION.
YES.
TO BE ELIGIBLE YOU HAVE TO HAVE
AN INCOME AT OR BELOW 80% OF
AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
HAS HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HAS
BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT SERVING MUCH
LOWER.
I THINK THEIR AVERAGE INCOME
SERVED IS ABOUT 65% OF AREA
MEDIAN INCOME AND THAT WILL BE
CASE FOR ALL SUBSEQUENT
HOMEBUYERS OVER THAT 99 PLUS 99
PLUS 99 YEAR PERIOD.
>> WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU.
CHAIR, IF I MAY JUST MAKE SOME
GENERAL COMMENTS TO THIS.
GREAT, THANK YOU.
I SEE YOU NODDING YOUR HEAD.
THIS LOCATION IS A PLACE I
WALKED PAST ON MY WAY HOME FROM
WHITMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL SO MANY
YEARS AGO.
WHEN MY PARENTS, TWO SOCIAL
WORKERS, PURCHASED THEIR HOME
IN BALLARD, HOMES WERE USUALLY
ABOUT $100,000 IN THAT AREA.
BALLARD WAS NOT A DESIRABLE
PLACE TO LIVE NECESSARILY.
IT WAS FOR US THAT LIVED THERE,
MAYBE NOT FOR OTHER PARTS OF
THE CITY IF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER
SOME OF THE ALMOST LIVE SKITS
KIND OF POKING FUN AT BALLARD.
IF YOU'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE
FROM BALLARD, YOU'RE LUCKY
ENOUGH.
THAT WAS THE SAYING BACK THEN.
NEARBY THERE'S SOME REALLY
GREAT OPEN SPACES AND YOU'D BE
SURPRISED THAT AS RECENTLY AS
THE 1970s SOME OF THE HOUSES
ALONG SUNSET HILL PARK THAT'S
NOT TOO FAR AWAY WERE GOING FOR
$30,000.
SO I PAINT THAT PICTURE BECAUSE
THE ECONOMICS OF BALLARD HAVE
CHANGED SO MUCH.
NOT ONLY HAS IT BECOME A MORE
DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE THAT,
HAS ALSO INCREASED THE COST OF
A HOUSE.
THE REASON I'M STILL A RENTER
TODAY IS BECAUSE HOUSE PRICES
ARE OUT OF REACH FOR ME AND SO,
YOU KNOW, I GO BACK TO THE
PRICE OF A HOUSE WAS $100,000,
YOU KNOW, NOT SO LONG AGO JUST
IN THE 1980s AND WITH THAT YOU
COULD HAVE MANY DIFFERENT LINES
OF WORK AND BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE
THE AMERICAN DREAM OF OWNING
YOUR OWN HOME.
TODAY HOME COSTS, THERE'S A
HOME THAT'S NOT TOO FAR AWAY ON
75th AND 28th THAT IS I THINK
600 SQUARE FEET AND IT'S GOING
FOR $425,000 AND IT NEEDS TO BE
-- IT WILL NEED A LOT OF LOVE
TO BE FIXED UP.
SO I JUST WANT TO FLAG THAT
THIS IS SUCH A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A PATHWAY
TO HOMEOWNERSHIP.
I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN PAST
PROPOSALS TO CREATE GREEN SPACE
AND A PARK THERE.
I FLAGGED THERE IS A LOT OF
GREEN SPACE NEARBY NOT ONLY
WITH GOLDEN GARDENS PARK WHICH
IS ABOUT A HALF MILE, QUARTER
MILE AWAY, SUNSET HILL PARK, A
QUARTER MILE AWAY, ROYAL
HEIGHTS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL A
COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY AND WHEN I
WALKED PAST THERE ALL THOSE
YEARS AGO FROM WHITMAN MIDDLE
SCHOOL, THERE WERE SOME REALLY
AMAZING CHERRY TREES THERE ON
THAT PROPERTY AND IT IS SAD TO
SEE THAT THOSE CHERRY TREES
WERE REMOVED A NUMBER OF YEARS
AGO.
ALSO IN THAT SAME BREATH, THANK
YOU FOR PRESERVING THE ADJACENT
TREES THAT REALLY DO PROVIDE AN
ECONOMIC VALUE.
I THINK THAT THIS PROPOSAL
ALONE DEMONSTRATES THE
CHALLENGE AT TIMES REGARDING
THE PRESERVATION OF TREES.
WE LOST ONE UNIT HERE.
YOU PROPOSED EIGHT UNITS.
WE NOW HAVE SEVEN AND IT ALSO
DEMONSTRATES THAT THE TREES
HAVE AN ECONOMIC VALUE.
SO OVERALL HUGE THANKS.
THIS IS GREAT.
IT CREATES A PATHWAY TO
HOMEOWNERSHIP AND GENERATIONAL
WEALTH FOR FAMILIES THAT MOVED
INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SO MANY
YEARS AGO THAT MIGHT BE PRICED
OUT TODAY.
SO JUST LOTS OF THANKS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS.
I JUST WANT TO ADD OR MAYBE
REMIND, THANK YOU ALL BECAUSE
THESE ARE LEVY FUNDS.
SO ALL OF YOU AND ALL OF US
VOTERS ARE WHAT'S MAKING THIS
POSSIBLE.
>> GOOD POINT.
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS, YOU HAVE
ANOTHER APPOINTMENT SOON, IF
YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD,
HAPPY TO GET YOU IN.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM
CHAIR.
FIRST I WANT TO BEGIN MY
REMARKS BY EXPRESSING IT'S
ANOTHER BALLARD NATIVE, MY
FONDNESS FOR THOSE ALMOST LIVE
SKETCHES ABOUT BALLARD, I WAS
ALSO A VERY RELUCTANT ACCORDIAN
LESSON STUDENT, NOT REALLY, BUT
IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO AND GET A
GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE BALLARD
IS LIKE, GO WATCH THOSE ALMOST
LIVE SKETCHES WITH THE YOUNG
BILL NYE, BUT TALKING ABOUT THE
MATTER AT HAND, I HAVE A COUPLE
OF QUESTIONS.
I THINK I'LL ASK THEM ALL NOW
IN THE INTEREST OF EFFICIENCY.
THE FIRST ONE IS I APPRECIATE
THE ART THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE
PRESENTATION ON SEEING HOW
THESE UNITS ARE GOING TO COME
TOGETHER.
I WONDER IF YOU MIGHT BE ABLE
TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE MATERIALS AND THE MODE OF
CONSTRUCTION AND WHETHER THAT
HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT COST
SAVING AND HOW SOMETHING LIKE
THAT COULD BE REPLICATED OR
MAYBE INCENTIVIZED IN A MARKET-
BASED WAY TO EXTEND THE
AFFORDABILITY INTO OTHER SORT
OF TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT
THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST
QUESTION.
THE SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE
BASED ON THE LEASE AND SORT OF
COVENANT METHOD OF TRANSFERRING
THE PROPERTIES TO ALLOW FOLKS
TO BUILD INTERGENERATIONAL
WEALTH, BUT ALSO PRESERVE LONG
TERM AFFORDABILITY, WHAT SOME
TACTICS MIGHT BE ON ARE A
STRATEGY TO EXTEND AND
INCENTIVIZE THOSE KIND OF
ARRANGEMENTS AGAIN IN A
MARKETPLACE WHY PARTICULARLY IN
AN AREA WERE THE CITY TO EXPAND
HOUSING OPTIONS IN MORE OF THE
CITY FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT
ALLOWS MULTIPLE FAMILIES TO
LIVE IN PLOTS LIKE THIS IN WAYS
WE CAN FOCUS ON NOT ONLY DOING
IT IN THESE SORT OF UNIQUE
COALITION BUILDING PROJECTS
WHERE WE BRING A LOT OF
STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER TO BUILD
SEVEN UNITS ON CITY-OWNED
PROPERTY WITH A NONPROFIT
DEVELOPER, BUT WAYS WE CAN
PROVIDE INCENTIVES SO THAT CAN
BE REPLICATED BY FOLKS THAT
BUILD THIS KIND OF MISSING
MIDDLE HOUSING IF THERE WERE
CITY REGULATIONS PERMITTING
MORE OF IT, BUT DOING IT IN A
WAY WHERE IT WAS EXPRESSING
THIS KIND OR STRESSING THIS
KIND OF EQUITABLE ARRANGEMENT
OF TRANSFER AND ONGOING SUPPORT
FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES.
>> YEAH.
THANK NOW YOU FOR THOSE
QUESTIONS.
FIRSTLY THE COST SAVINGS THAT
HABITAT EMPLOYS, THEY ARE STICK
BUILT.
IN TERMS OF REPLICATION HABITAT
IS SORT OF A POWERHOUSE BOTH IN
PHILANTHROPY AND IN MOBILIZING
VOLUNTEERS.
I'M NOT SURE I CAN REALLY SPEAK
TO POTENTIALLY HOW REPLICATABLE
THOSE COST SAVINGS MIGHT BE FOR
OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPERS.
TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION, THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING HAS A
TREMENDOUS HISTORY OF INVESTING
IN PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE
HOMEOWNERSHIP, FIRSTLY THROUGH
HOMESTEAD COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
THEY HAVE HUNDREDS OF UNITS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY, MAYBE 300
IN THE COUNTY, I'M SORRY, NOT
IN ADDITION TO, 300 TOTAL
INCLUDING UNITS IN KING COUNTY,
AND THIS TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT,
THIS SORT OF EQUITY SHARING
ARRANGEMENT, IF YOU WILL, THAT
HOMEOWNERS GET AFFORDABILITY IN
EXCHANGE FOR PASSING ON
AFFORDABILITY IS A NATIONAL
APPROACH USUALLY UTILIZED BY
ORGANIZATIONS CALLED COMMUNITY
LAND TRUSTS, BUT FOR
ADDITIONALLY HABITAT FOR
HUMANITY AFFILIATES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS
WELL.
I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S A
REALLY GREAT WAY FOR THE CITY
TO INVEST IN HOMEOWNERSHIP
BECAUSE IT IS A GROWING STOCK
OF PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE HOMES
FOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO
WILL ALWAYS NEED THEM.
SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR
QUESTIONS.
I MIGHT HAVE LOST TRACK OF THE
SECOND PART OF THE SECOND
QUESTION.
I TRIED TO SCRIBBLE THEM DOWN.
LET ME KNOW IF I MISSED THE
MARK.
>> NO.
THAT WAS PERFECT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE WHEN
IT COMES TO THE PRIVATE MARKET
BEING INTERESTED IN THIS KIND
OF MODEL, THE PRIVATE MARKET
WHEN IT COMES TO HOMEOWNERSHIP,
THEY'RE INTO BUILDING IT,
SELLING IT AND LEAVING AND THE
BENEFIT OF HABITAT AND
HOMESTEAD IS THAT THEY'RE IN IT
TO BUILD AND TO STAY AND BE
INVOLVED HELPING TO INSURE THE
HOUSING STAYED AFFORDABLE OVER
THE LONG HAUL AND THEY, IN
FACT, HAVE A LEGAL
RESPONSIBILITY THROUGH THE
COVENANTS, ET CETERA, TO MAKE
SURE THAT HAPPENS.
THEY'RE A MISSION DRIVEN
ORGANIZATION THAT'S IN IT FOR
THAT LONG HAUL OUTCOME AND THE
PRIVATE MARKET REALLY IS NOT
ORIENTED THAT WAY GENERALLY
SPEAKING.
THEY'RE IN TO BUILD, SELL AND
BE GONE.
SO THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF HAVING
THESE NONPROFITS WHO CARE ABOUT
AFFORDABILITY FOR PEOPLE, NOT
JUST FOR THE FIRST HOMEOWNER,
BUT ALL THE OTHERS THAT WILL
COME AFTER BECAUSE IT'S
INEVITABLE YOU'LL HAVE A
TURNOVER IN THOSE HOMEOWNERSHIP
NITS.
THAT TENDS TO BE THE NATURE OF
THE HOMEOWNERSHIP, JUST ADD
THAT ON TO WHY THE MARKET MAY
NOT BE QUITE INCENTIVIZED OR
INTERESTED IN THIS KIND OF
MODEL.
>> EXCELLENT.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?
NOT SEEING ANY HANDS.
I WILL JUST MAKE ONE MORE NOTE
OF APPRECIATION FOR THE LENGTH
IN WHICH IT HAS TAKEN US TO GET
HERE, THE TIME FRAME.
IT'S HARD NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE
HOW VOTES THAT YOU TAKE
IMMEDIATELY TRANSLATE INTO
ACTION, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR
US TO REMEMBER ALL OF THE WORK
IT TOOK TO GET TO THIS POINT.
AGAIN, THE CONVERSATION STARTED
WITH A RECOGNITION THAT IN 2018
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR FRIENDS
AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE WE
PASSED LEGISLATION TO UPDATE
THE STATE'S DISPOSITION
POLICIES TO PUT INTO PLACE
NEWLY GRANTED STATE
AUTHORIZATION TO MAKE SURE WE
WERE PRIORITIZING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING FOR SURPLUS LANDS AND
TO EMBED AN EQUITABLE
DEVELOPMENT LANDS INTO THAT
PROCESS.
WE KNOW AS WELL A SMALL PIECE
OF LEGISLATION WE PASSED
PREVIOUSLY YEARS AGO ENABLED
THE CITY AND CITY UTILITY-OWNED
PROPERTY TO BE TRANSFERRED AT
NO COST FOR THE CREATION OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND AS WE
KNOW, THE PRICE OF LAND
CONTINUES TO GO UP.
SO WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT HERE
IS THAT IN THE LAST YEAR WE
AUTHORIZED THE FIRST NO-COST
TRANSFER TO THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING FOR AFFORDABLE
HOMEOWNERSHIP IN LOYAL HEIGHTS
FOLLOWING THAT LEGISLATION AND
THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT
FOLLOWS ON TOP OF THAT IS
ENABLING OUR DEPARTMENT TO
TRANSFER THE SITE TO ACTUALLY
CREATE A PERMANENT AFFORDABLE
HOUSING ON SITE.
THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY
EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT
BECAUSE IT'S YEARS OF WORK AND
ALSO PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE
LEGISLATURE.
THREE YEARS AGO I WAS RIDING
AROUND WITH TONY WHO MANY OF
YOU KNOW AND HE WAS POINTING
OUT VARIOUS PLACES WHERE WE IN
THE CITY INVESTED PRIOR IN
FIRST TIME HOMEOWNERSHIP
OPPORTUNITIES.
I WAS LIKE THIS IS SO EXCITING.
SHOW ME THE FIRST ONE AND HE
SAID FRANKLY, IT'S SO SLOW TO
PULL THEM ONLINE.
WE NEED SO MUCH MORE OF THIS.
JUST YESTERDAY I WAS TALKING TO
HIM ABOUT THIS LEGISLATION AND
HE WAS EMPHASIZING THE NEED FOR
US TO CREATE HOMEOWNERSHIP
OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE UP TO
80% AMI SO THAT THERE'S A
PIPELINE TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF
THE LOWEST INCOME HOUSING
REQUIRES THEM TO BE ABLE TO
MOVE ON TO FIRST TIME
HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES
LIKE THIS.
THIS, FRANKLY, IS A KEY TOOL IN
ADDRESSING GENERATIONAL POVERTY
AS WELL TO END CYCLES SO THAT
PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE EQUITY
THAT THEY CAN FALL BACK ON,
EQUITY IN MANY USES OF THAT
TERM.
WITH THAT IN MIND I DON'T SEE
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, LET'S GO
AHEAD AND MOVE PASSAGE OF THE
BILL.
I MOVE THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS
PASSAGE OF COUNCIL BILL 119890.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED.
ARE THERE ADDITIONAL FURTHER
COMMENTS?
SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK WILL
YOU PLEASE CALL ON ROLL ON THE
PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
>> VICE-CHAIR HERBOLD.
>> AYE.
>> PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT
THE BILL PASS WILL BE SENT TO
THE SEPTEMBER 29th CITY COUNCIL
MEETING FOR FINAL VOTE.
I WANT TO THANK AARON HOUSE AS
WELL AS CENTRAL STAFF AND ALL
THE FOLKS AT THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING, OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS
WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON HAVE A
VERY LONG TIME AND TO ALSO
RECOGNIZE ALL OF YOUR WORK THAT
GOT US HERE.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE
PRESENTATION TODAY AND THE
WORK.
ONE MORE TIME, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, JUST FOR THE GOOD OF
THE ORDER I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD
AND ASK THAT THE RULES BE
SUSPENDED SO THAT WE CAN ALSO
MOVE THIS BILL TO TUESDAY'S
MEETING.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AGAIN,
BECAUSE THIS COMMITTEE MEETING
STARTED PAST THE NOON DEADLINE
WE NEED TO SUSPEND COUNCIL
RULES AND WITH THE ADVANCE
CONCURRENCE FROM THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT FORWARD THIS BILL TO
THE TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29th
CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA.
WITH THAT IF THERE'S NO
OBJECTION, THE COUNCIL RULE
RELATING TO LEGISLATION PASSED
TODAY AFTER 12 NOON THURSDAY
WILL BE SUSPENDED TO ALLOW FOR
THIS COUNCIL BILL TO BE
CONSIDERED ON THE TUESDAY,
7,029th CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY,29th, CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
THIS BILL WILL ALSO BE SENT TO
THE FULL COUNCIL MEETING FOR
FINAL CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU ALL.
THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S MEETING.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE
GOOD OF THE ORDER?
HEARING NONE, COUNCIL
COLLEAGUES, THIS IS OUR LAST
MEETING FOR 2020.
KNOCK ON WOOD.
AT LEAST UNTIL WE GET THROUGH
THE COUNCIL BUDGET PROCESS THIS
FALL.
I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR
WORK.
OUR LAST COMMITTEE -- I'M
SORRY.
JUST DOUBLE CHECKING MY SCRIPT.
I SAW A SEPTEMBER 30th DATE AND
I WAS LIKE DO WE HAVE ANOTHER
MEETING?
NO, WE DON'T.
I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE HEARTBURN
FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
WE PROMISE WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY
MORE MEETINGS.
WITH THAT TODAY'S COMMITTEE
MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
WE WILL SEE YOU AT FULL COUNCIL
AND SEPTEMBER 30th FOR BUDGET
COUNCIL.