.
>>> GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO THE FINANCE AND
HOUSING COMMITTEE
MEETING.
TODAY IS MAY 4th AND THE TIME
IS 9:31.
THIS MEETING WILL COME TO
ORDER.
WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLE
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> MADAM CHAIR THAT IS THREE
PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO WE HAVE ANY ALTERNATES OR
GUESTS HERE TODAY
SEEING NONE.
GREAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS IS EXCUSED
AND WHEN COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
ARRIVES WE WILL MAKE
SURE TO WELCOME HER.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING TODAY.
THIS IS A COMMITTEE MEET THAT
WILL START WITH 20
MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND
THEN WE WILL MOVE IN
LABOR APPOINTMENTS.
WE WILL CONTINUE THE
CONVERSATION AND HAVE AN
OVERVIEW OF THE TRANSPARENCY
REQUIREMENT FOR
CONTRACT WORKERS.
THIS IS A PRESENTATION AND A
BODY OF WORK THAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD HAS BEEN
LEADING ON.
THEN WE WILL HAVE A BRIEFING
POSSIBLE VOTE ON THE
SOUND TRANSIT PROPERTY TRANSFER
ORDINANCE.
IT'S A PACKED AGENDA TODAY.
WE WILL TRY TO GET YOU OUT SO
YOU CAN HAVE A LUNCH
BREAK.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE AGENDA
THE AGENDA IS A DON'TED.
AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR I WANTED
TO LET PEOPLE KNOW
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC
HEARING TODAY.
IT'S A CONTINUATION OF OUR
ONGOING DISCUSSION ABOUT
THE ARPA FOUND FUNDS.
THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
FOLKS TO SIGN UP TO
GIVE THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT
ARE THE MOST PRESSING
ISSUES WE WILL BE FUNDING THE
FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT
ARE MADE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND
TO THE CORONAVIRUS
CRISIS.
THE SIGN UP SHEET CAN BE FOUND
AT SEATTLE.GOV.
THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WILL OPEN
AT 3:30.
THIS MORNING LOOK FORWARD TO
HEARING FOLK WHO HAVE
SIGNED UP.
AGAIN AS A REMINDER, YOU WILL
HAVE TWO MINUTES TO
SPEAK.
I WILL CALL ON MEMBERS THREE A
HIM TOO.
REMEMBER WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME
IT'S YOUR TIME TO HIT
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AS
WELL.
HAVE YOU TO HIT STAR 6 AND YOU
WILL HEAR A PROMPT
THAT SAYS YOU HAVE BEEN
UNMITED.
MAKE SURE YOUR PHONE ISN'T ON
MUTE AS WELL.
STATE YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM
YOU ARE ADDRESSING YOU
WILL HEAR A TEN SECOND CHIMEER
AT THE END OF YOUR
TIME.
THAT'S YOUR SIGN TO CUT IT OFF.
ONCE HAVE YOU COMPLETED OUR
PUBLIC COMMENT
DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE AND
YOU CAN CONTINUE TO
FOLLOW US AT SEATTLE CHANNEL OR
THE OTHER LISTEN IN
OPTIONS ON THE AGENDA.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS
NOW OPEN AND I WILL GO
TO THE FIRST THREE SPEAKERS.
JORDAN -- ANDRA KRANSLER AND
DORIS GARCIA.
GOOD MORNING JORDAN.
>> HI.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
MY NAME IS JORDAN.
I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 4
AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE
DOMESTIC WORKER STANDARDS
BOARD.
I OCCUPY ONE OF THE SEATS FOR
HIRING GROUPS.
I'M HERE TODAY TO MAKE COMMENT
ON THE TRANSPARENCY
REQUIREMENTS FOR CONTRACT
WORKERS.
SPECIFICALLY, I WANT TO MAKE
COMMENTS ABOUT THE
PROCESS THAT'S GONE IN TO THE
PIECE OF LEGISLATION
AND BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS I
FEEL LIKE DESPITE BEING
A MEMBER OF THE STANDARDS BOARD
I'M NOT IN A
POSITION TO COMMENT ON THE
CONTENT OF THE
LEGISLATION.
THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION SEEMS
TO BE GOOD FOR
WORKERS BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT
THE CITY HAS NOT DONE
ENOUGH ENGAGEMENT WITH DOMESTIC
WORKERS AND FOR THAT
MATTER WITH HIRING GROUPS TO
BOW SEARCH THAT WORKERS
IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND THEY --
THAT THERE WON'T BE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
ONE IS THE WORKER WHO ARE
UNDOCUMENTED, THERE'S A
LOT OF FEAR AND UNSUNSET.
TO WORK THROUGH THE FEARS AND
MISS GIVINGS IT'S HARD
FOR US TO KNOW IF DOMESTIC
WORKERS ACTUALLY SUPPORT
THE PROPOSAL AS IT CURRENTLY
IS.
I THINK IT'S PARTICULARLY
SURPRISING AND
DISAPPOINTING THAT WORKERS
COVERED UNDER THE
DOMESTIC WORKER'S ORDINANCE
WERE INCLUDED IN THE
LEGISLATION AT THIS POINT GIVE
THEN COUNCIL HAS NOT
ENGAGED THE FULL DOMESTIC
STANDARDS BOARD ON THIS
ISSUE.
THE LITTLE BIT OF ENGAGEMENT WE
HAVE HAD WITH
COUNCIL.
THE OUTCOME OF THAT WAS OUR
REQUEST TO BE DEEPER,
BROADER ENGAGEMENT WITH
DOMESTIC WORKERS TO ENSURE
THAT WORKERS ARE IN SUPPORT OF
THE LEGISLATION.
EVEN MOVING BEYOND THAT WE KNOW
THAT THERE MAY BE
OTHER WORKERN WHO ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT THIS
LEGISLATION.
SO, I REALLY AM CONCERNED ABOUT
THE PROCESS HERE AND
THANK YOU FOR JUROR TIME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
RAISING THOSE CONCERNS.
VERY TIMELY.
APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.
WE WILL MOVE ONTO THE NEXT
SPEAKER WHO IS ANDRA.
ANDRA.
ARE YOU LISTED AS NOT PRESENT.
I WANT TO MECHANIC SURE YOU ARE
CALLING IN ON THE
RIGHT LISTEN IN LINE.
LOOKS LIKE YOU SIGNED UP PRETTY
EARLY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO
YOU AND THE NEXT
PERSON IS DORIS GARCIA.
ALSO LISTED AS NOT PRESENT.
I WILL GIVE FOLKS JUST A FEW
MINUTES TO SEE IF THEY
CALL BACK IN.
AND REPUBLICAN PRESENT.
JUST ONE SECOND.
IN THE MEANTIME.
WANT TO WELCOME COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING.
OKAY.
ANDRA AND DORIS.
I'M STILL SEEING YOU NOT AS
PRESENT.
IF YOU ARE HAVING ANY PROBLEMS
DIALING IN, PLEASE
LET US KNOW AND WE WILL TRY TO
MAKE SURE TO GET YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENTS REFLECTED.
THAT'S FARIDE.CUEVAF AT
SEATTLE.GOV.
OKAY.
WITH THAT THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOLKS FOR DIALING IN
THAT.
DOES CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT I
DIDN'T MISS THE
CALLERNS IN DID I
>> NOT THAT I SEE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S MOVE ON.
THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR THE MORNING
AND WE WILL MAKE SURE IF WE
RECEIVE ANY THAT WE
CIRCULATE THEM TO OTHER
COUNCILMEMBERS.
AT THIS TIME LET'S GO HEAD AND
MOVE INTO THE FIRST
ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
LET'S DO ITEMS 1 THROUGH 5. DO
YOU MIND RED THAT IN TO THE
RECORD
>> ITEMS 1 THROUGH 5.
APPOINTMENTS TO THE LABOR
STANDARDS ADVISORY
COMMISSION FOR AFEWORKI
GHEBREIYESUS, I'M SO SORRY
FOR THE LAST NAME FOR DIANA
OCHOA, APPOINTMENT FOR
ALEXIS RODICH.
AND TRACY TAYLOR AND ANNIE
WISE.
>> I WANT TO WELCOME TO THE
DIAS KAREN AND LIZ
FORD, GOOD MORNING FOLKS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
AM I TURNING OVER TO, LIZ
KAREN
I SAW YOUR FACE.
TAKE IT AWAY AND INTRODUCE
YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD.
>> YEAH.
LIZ WILL BE HANDLING MOST OF
THE DUTIES.
I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
THANK YOU THE COMMUNITY FOR ITS
TIME AND WELCOME ALL
OF THE NEW NOMINEES AND
HOPEFULLY APPOINTEES.
VERY QUICKLY I DID JUST WANT TO
SAY THAT ONE OF
OUR -- ONE OF OUR APPOINTMENTS
CAN'T BE HERE TODAY.
THERE WILL BE A STATEMENT ON
HER BEHALF AND ANOTHER
IS TRYING TO GET ONTO THE ZOOM
SO, IF ANY OF THE IT
STAFF ARE AVAILABLE TO
POTENTIALLY PROMOTE HER TO A
PANELIST IF THAT'S THE ISSUE.
IF WE CAN'T RESOLVE IT WE WILL
READ A STATEMENT ON
HER BEHALF.
WITH THAT THANK YOU ALL AND I
WILL TURN IT OVER TO
LIZ AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN
RESOLVE HER TECH ISSUE FOR
HER.
HER STATEMENT NEEDS TO BE READ.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SPEAKING OF TECH ISSUES.
I JUST GOT A MESSAGE THAT ANDRA
WHO SIGNED UP FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT WAS THERE AND
NOT SEEING HER IN OUR
ZOOM HERE.
IF YOU DO WANT TO DIAL BACK IN
BEFORE WE TRANSITION
TO OTHER ITEMS I'M HAPPY TO
OPEN IT BACK UP SO YOU
CAN PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS.
APOLOGIES FOR THAT.
AND, WE WILL WORK ON THE
TECHNICAL ISSUES TO GET ALL
THE PEOPLE WELCOMED BACK IN TO
THE ZOOM.
THANK YOU.
LIZ, WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO
YOU.
GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ON
BEHALF OF LSAC AND YOUR
SERVICE AS A CO CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU.
WE ARE JUST EXCITED TO HAVE
POTENTIALLY A FULL
COMMISSION.
SO WE WANTED TO START BY
THANKING YOU FOR TAKING UP
THE CONFIRMATION OF THE FIV
APPOINTEES.
MY NAME IS LIZ FORD.
I'M ALONG WITH GA E GILMORE.
WE ARE THE CO CHAIRS OF THE
COMMISSION.
JUST FOR -- I KNOW YOU KNOW
THIS -- COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA BUT FOR THOSE WHO MAY
BE LISTENING OR
WATCHING THE LABOR STANDARDS
ADVISORY COMMISSION
ADVISES THE OFFICE OF LABOR
CANNED STARRS.
ON ISSUES TO MINIMUM STANDARDS.
IT'S MADE OF 15 MEMBERS.
7 APPOINTED BY COUNCIL.
7 BY THE MAYOR AND ONE BY THE
COMMISSION AND THOSE
MEMBERS ACCORDING TO ORDINANCE
SHOULD BE ROUGHLY
DIVIDED BETWEEN AMONG BUSINESS
WORKER AND COMMUNITY
GROUPS.
WE ARE THRILLED TO HAVE THESE
LAST FIVE APPOINTEES
BEFORE YOU.
COMPLETING THE COMMISSION AND
THESE APPOINTEES HAVE
A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN EACH OF
THE AREAS.
I -- MY THOUGHT IS TO JUST
BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THEM TO
YOU ALL TOGETHER AND THEN TO --
TURN IT OVER TO YOU
TO DO THE REST.
SO, -- AFEWORKI GHEBREIYESUS IS
THE FIRST APPOINTEE.
HE SETTLED IN SEE THE EXAMPLE
NOW AT REFUGEE WOMEN'S
ALLIANCE COORDINATING AN
OUTREACH AND EDUCATION
FOCUSED ON WORKPLACE STANDARDS
LIKE PLAY AND HEALTH
AND SAFETY.
DIANA OCHOA OUR SECOND NOMINEE
IMMIGRATED FROM
SONORA MENTION K SETTLING IN
WASHINGTON.
SHE IS A WORKER'S RIGHT
PROMOTER AND WE ARE SO
THRILLED TO HAVE THEM HERE
REPRESENTED ONCE AGAIN.
ALEXIS RODICL IS THE DIRECTOR
OF POLICY FOR SEIU775.
THEY IS THE THIRD NOMINEE.
TRACY TAYLOR IS THE GENERAL
MANAGER.
SHE IS ALSO ACTIVE IN THE
CAPITOL HILL CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE.
SHE CO CHAIRS THE SMALL
BUSINESS ADVISORY COUNCIL.
ANNIE WISE, THE MAYOR'S FINAL
APPOINTEE IS THE
OPERATION MANAGER FOR THE
MARTIN LUTHER KING LABOR
COUNCIL.
WE ARE THRILLED, WE ARE EXCITED
TO HAVE A COMPLETE
COMMISSION AND GRATEFUL TO YOU
FOR CONSIDERING THEIR
NOMINATIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE TO THE
NOMINEES FOR BEING HERE
WITH US.
LET'S GO IN THE ORDER THAT LIZ
JUST WALKED THROUGH.
WE WILL GO WITH AFEWORKI
GHEBREIYESUS, ALEXIS, TRACY
AND ANNIE.
WE WILL START WITH -- JUST THE
LITTLE INTRODUCTION
ABOUT WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOUR
PAST WORK HAS BEEN AND
WHY YOU ARE INTERESTED IN
JOINING THE COMMISSION.
AFEWORKI GHEBREIYESUS
PLEASE CORRECT MY PRONOUNCING.
>> YOU SAY IT CORRECTLY.
>> THANK YOU.
NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
THANK YOU.
HELLO AND GOOD MORNING
EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
IN ADVANCE.
I'M AFEWORKI GHEBREIYESUS.
I GO BY E, HIM.
I WAS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA AND
HAVE ATTENDED MY BA
IN CHEMISTRY AS A PROGRAM FOR
-- AND PROGRAM.
I HAVE TEN PLUS YEARS OF WORK
EXPERIENCE.
IN THE PAST I HAVE WORKED IN
OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY,
MINING, EDUCATION AND OTHER
INDUSTRIES.
PRIOR TO MY POSITION I WORKED
IN SPECIALIST HELPING
LOW INCOME FAMILIES.
UPDATING AND ASSISTING
[INAUDIBLE]
TO WORK.
WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE LOSING JOB,
NO FAULT OF THEIR
OWN AND SOME KIND OF ABUSE,
MISS TREATMENT IN WAR
PLACES, THAT'S WHY I HAVE
STARTED TO ORGANIZE
TRAINING PROGRAMS BETWEEN OUR
OTHERS ABOUT THEIR --
WORKSITE.
MAYBE ITS SOMETHING TO DO OR MY
MOTIVE TO JOIN THE
LSAC BOARD IS SOMETHING TO DO
ALONG THOSE LINES AND
I'M -- I'M EXCITED.
I'M LOOKING FOR WORK TO BE ON
THE BOARD.
THAT'S THE BRIEF INTRODUCTION
OF MYSELF.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
BEING HERE AND FOR THE
INTEREST.
WE ARE GOING TO HOLD QUESTIONS
UNTIL THE END AND LET
OTHER FOLKS INTRODUCE
THEMSELVES.
THANK YOU FORGETTING US STARTED
HERE.
DIANA THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE
WITH US.
APPRECIATE -- GO HEAD.
AND.
>> NO PROBLEM.
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
H1N1
WE ARE
GOING TO DO TRANSLATION AND,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
YOUR HELP IN STEPPING IN A
PINCH.
WELCOME.
FAIR FAIR
>> I WORK WITH THE WORKER'S
RIGHTS PROGRAM.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO BE HERE.
IT'S AN HONOR TO MEET WITH YOU.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
.
>>> HELLO.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
COMMUNITY SINCE I CAME
TO THE UNITED STATES.
I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH LABOR
RIGHTS AND SINCE THAT
MOTIVATED ME TO CONTINUE TO
WORK FOR THE EDUCATION
TO INCREASE THE EDUCATION OF
WORKER'S RIGHTS.
>> [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
.
>>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS
FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR
LATINO WORKERS IN THE NATION
TOWARD THE LATINO
COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE OF THE CENSURE AND
PENALTIES, MANY PENALTIES THERE
ARE FOR WORKERS.
IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG THERE'S
USUALLY A PENALTY
FOR THE WORK ERIN STEAD OF THE
EMPLOYER AND THAT IS
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
MOTIVATED ME TO BE INVOLVED
IN THIS BOARD AND TO DO -- TO
GIVE MY -- MY GRAIN OF
SAND TOWARD THIS WORK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.
WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE NEXT
PEOPLE.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE].
WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK FOR
SOME QUESTIONS IN A
FEW MOMENTS.
THANK YOU.
>>> LET'S GO NEXT TO ALEXIS.
GOOD MORNING ALEXIS.
>> ALEXIS IS FEELING SICK SO I
HAVE A STATEMENT
THAT I CAN READ ON HER BEHALF
FOR THE COMMITTEE.
GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY
NOMINATION TO THE LABOR
STANDARDS ADVISORY COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS ALEXIS RODICH AND
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
RESEARCH AND POLICY.
THE CAREGIVERS UNION
REPRESENTING MORE THAN 45,000
WORKERS REPRESENTING WASHINGTON
AND MONTANAN.
THIS
ROLE I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
TO CONTRIBUTE TO
EFFORTS SQUARELY AT IMPROVING
THE LIVES AND LOW WAGE
WORKER WHEN IS A PARTICULAR
FOCUS ON BLACK, NAT ISP
OTHER WORKERS OF COLOR IN
SEATTLE AND ACROSS THE
STATE.
MY TEAM AND I HAVE BOLD
POLICIES TO ADDRESS
DISCRIMINATION, AND RAISE
STANDARDS FOR DOMESTIC
WORKERS AND GIG WORKERS.
SEATTLE IS AN EXTRAORDINARY
ENVIRONMENT TO WORK IN,
STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS WITH
UNIONS, COMMUNITY
ACTIVISTS, AND THE GOVERNMENT
FOR THE BETTERMENT OF
WORKING PEOPLE.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SERVE ON THE LABOR
STANDARDS ADVISORY COMMISSION
AS WE REBUILD AFTER
CORONAVIRUS AND CONTRIBUTE TO
OUR SHARED OBJECTIVES
AND IMPROVE EQUALITY FORK WORER
IN THE CITY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ON BEHALF OF ALEXIS FOR THAT.
>>> AND TRACY.
I SAW YOU.
HELLO.
PLEASE GO HEAD.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS TRACY TAYLOR.
I HAVE BEEN THE GENERAL MANAGER
OF ELLIOT BAY
COMPANY FOR 30 YEARS.
THAT SOUNDS DAUNTING.
AND HAVE SERVED AS CO CHAIR ON
THE SMALL BUSINESS
ADVISE COUNCIL.
AND I JUST OPENED MY OWN
BUSINESS ON CAPITOL HILL.
A SMALL NEWS STAND AND BOTTLE
STOP.
I'M INTERESTED IN SERVING ON
THE LABOR COMMISSION.
I HAVE HAD THE JOY OF PUTTING
IN SOME OF THE MANY,
MANY COMPLEX ORDINANCE MANDATES
THAT HAVE COME DOWN
AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
MAKE THEM WORK AND I
BELIEVE THAT A LOT LOT OF THE
EMPLOYERS IN THIS CITY
WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR
THEIR WORKERS.
E JUST DON'T ALWAYS
MEANS AND THE
KNOWLEDGE TO DO THAT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH IN AN ECO
SYSTEM WITH MICRO
BUSINESSES, SMALL AND LARGE
BUSINESSES, GIG WORKERS,
CONTRACT WORKERS, AND WORKING
THROUGH THAT TO FIND
HOW WE CAN HELP SUPPORT OUR
WORKERS WITHOUT HARMING
THE GOOD BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE
CITY IS SOMETHING
THAT I'M INTERESTED IN SERVING.
THANK YOU.
ALSO I MAY HAVE TO DROP OFF THE
CALL SO IF THERE ARE
QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS I
APOLOGIZE IF I'M NOT THERE
FOR THOSE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH
US.
WE CAN TELL YOU THAT ARE SAFELY
PARKED, THAT TREE BE
BEHIND YOU HAS NOT MOVED SO I
WANT TO NOTE THAT FOR
THE RECORD.
>> I'M PARKED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND WE HAVE ONE MORE PERSON
AND IF THERE ARE ANY
QUESTION WAS HE WILL BE SURE TO
FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US
THIS MORNING.
GOOD MORNING ANNIE, THANK YOU
FOR BEING WITH US.
IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE
YOURSELF AND LET US KNOW
ABOUT WHAT INTERESTS YOU ABOUT
BEING ON THE
COMMISSION.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCILMEMBERS.
I AM THE OPERATIONS DIRECTOR AT
THE MARTIN LUTHER
KING COUNTY LABOR COUNCIL WHICH
IS AN ORGANIZATION
THAT'S FOUGHT FOR THE LIVES AND
LIVELIHOODS OF
WORKING PEOPLE.
I HANDLE THE DAY TO DAY
OPERATIONS OF THE COUNCIL
AND I'M PART OF THE POLITICAL
AND ORGANIZING WORK.
BEFORE JOINING MLK LABOR I WAS
A HOTEL WORKERN
FOREOVER EIGHT YEARS.
AND MY TECHNICAL ROLES WERE
THAT OF FRONT DESK AND
SALES BUT I WORKED IN MULTIPLE
OUTLETS SUCH AS HOUSE
KEEPING, AND VALET AS NEEDED.
I HAVE WORKED AT UNION AND
NONUNION PROPERTIES AND I
ALSO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF
THE DIFFERENCES AND
INEQUALITIES AND WORKING
CONDITIONS IN BOTH.
THE FORMER HOTEL DIRECTOR I WAS
HAPPY TO TESTIFY
TWICE IN FRONT OF I-124.
I BELIEVE I CAN BE AN ASSET
BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE
WORKING AS AN EMPLOYEE AND ON
BEHALF THE EMPLOYER.
I'M ALSO COMMITTED TO BETTERING
WORKPLACE STANDARD
WAS A SPECIAL FOCUS ON EQUALITY
FOR WOMEN AND
WORKERS.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
HERE WITH US TODAY.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ALL OF
OUR INVITED NOMINEES
HERE STILL WITH US ON THE LINE.
LY OPEN IT UP.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOLKS
WOULD LIKE TO ASK
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IN
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF
THESE CANDIDATES FOR
COMING BEFORE US, VOLUNTEERING
THEIR TIME AND
SERVING THE CITY.
IT TAKES PEOPLE -- SUBJECT
MATTER EXPERTS -- LIVED
EXPERIENCE SUCH AS YOURSELF TO
BE ABLE TO ADVICE US
IN THE BEST PLACE POSSIBLE.
HAVE YOU VOLUNTEERING HELPING
SHAPE THE CITY INTO A
BETTER PLACE.
I WANT TO THANK EACH MUCH YOU
FOR COMING BEFORE US
TODAY.
>> WELL SAID.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL NOTE MANY OF YOU SPOKE
ABOUT THE IMPACT OF
CORONAVIRUS ON THE LIVES AND
LIVELIHOODS OF SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERNS AND WORKERS
AND REALLY APPRECIATE
THE FOCUS YOU THAT PUT ON HOW
WE ARE TRYING TO
REBUILD OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND
THE WORK THAT YOU ARE
DOING REALLY HELPS MAKE SURE
THAT'S DONE IN A MORE
EQUAL WAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
INTEREST IN SERVING
HERE TODAY AND FOR BRINGING THE
DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES
TO LSAC.
I KNOW THIS WORK WILL PROBABLY
BE MORE IMPORTANT
THAN EVER AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW
WE PUT IN THE
EXISTING POLICIES IN THE PAST
AND WHAT NEW POLICIES
MAY BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE TO
CREATE A MORE LEVEL
PLAYING FIELD FOR WORKERS AND
FOR THOSE BUSINESSES
THAT TRACY MENTIONED WHO REALLY
WANT TO BE GOOD HIGH
ROAD EMPLOYERS AND PROVIDE THEM
WITH THE TOOLS THEY
CAN DEPLOY TO MAKE SURE THEY
ARE LIFTING UP WORKERS
AND SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR OWN
EFFORTS.
I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND
LET'S GO HEAD AND
MOVE FORWARD.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS.
AT THIS TIME I MOVE THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS PASSAGE
OF APPOINTMENTS 1 THROUGH 5 AS
LISTED ON TODAY'S
AGENDA AS MEMBERS OF THE
LABOR'S STANDARDS ADVISORY
COMMISSION.
IS THERE A SECOND
>> SECOND.
>> ITS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
HEARING NONE, LET'S GO HEAD AND
CAL THE ROLE.
MADAM CLERK WILL YOU CALL THE
ROLE ON THE PASSAGE OF
THE APPOINTMENTS
>> CHAIRMAN MOSQUEDA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> MADAM CHAIR THAT IS A FOUR
IN FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
APPOINTEES BE RECOMMENDED
APPOINTMENTS TO THE LABOR
STANDARD'S ADVISORY COMMISSION
WILL BE SENT TO THE
SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
FOR A FINAL VOTE.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE PRESENT
TO GET THIS FINAL
VOTE.
WE WILL BE HAPPY TO SEND YOU
THE FINAL VOTE AFTER
OUR DELIBERATIONS O MAY 10th
AND WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR ITER IN SERVING
AND FOUR TIME THIS
MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH
US.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR FUTURE WORK
AS WELL.
OKAY.
WITH THAT LET'S MOVE ONTO ITEM
NUMBER 6 AND 7. OUR DOMESTIC
WORKER'S STANDARDS BOARD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE
ACTUALLY ONE OF THE
DOMESTIC WORKER'S STANDARDS
BOARD MEMBERS WITH US
WHO WANTED TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT THIS IS A
LITTLE UNUSUAL BUT BECAUSE IT
TIES IN TO DOMESTIC
WORKERS I AM GOING TO ASK IF
ANDRA IS STILL
AVAILABLE WITH US AND WE WILL
GO HEAD AND OFFER THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ANDRA TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT
AGAIN THIS MORNING.
AS OUR TEAM TEES THAT UP FROM
THE IT SIDE MADAM
CLERK COULD YOU READ IN TO THE
RECORD ITEM NUMBER 6
AND 7.
>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 AND 7.
REAPPOINTMENT OF EMILY DILLS AS
MEMBER OF THE
DOMESTIC WORKER'S STANDARDS
BOARD AND EDILKA
DOMINGUEZ FOR BRIEF AND
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE
VOTE.
>> OKAY.
WONDERFUL.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE JASMINE
WITH US FROM OFFICE OF
LABOR STANDARDS WHO ALSO SEVENS
AS THE LIASI, NO THE
DOMESTIC WORKER'S STANDARDS
BOARD IS THE APPROPRIATE
TITLE.
JASMIE IF YOU DON'T MIND
HOLDING FOR A SECOND.
>> KNOW THAT ANDRA WAS ON THE
LINE AND WANTED TO
GET BACK TO HER.
GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
WAITING.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TWO
MINUTESTO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU ARE
WELCOME TO AT THIS TIME.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA AND
COUNCILMEMBERS HERBOLD AND -- I
WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GRACE AS I
WAS DEALING WITH
UNABLE TO UNMUTE.
WE AS A MEMBER OF THE --
STANDARDS BOARD I'M REALLY
HONORED AND EXCITED ABOUT THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT
ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU
TODAY.
I HAVE SHARED ALL OF MY
RESOURCE AND ALL OF MY
ENERGY TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT
THE DOMESTIC WORKERS
ARE FULLY SUPPORTED IN TERMS OF
THE LEGAL ASSISTANCE
THAT I THINK I CAN -- I HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS
AND I WILL SAY THAT
THIS BOARD HAS BEEN EXTREMELY
DILIGENT.
THEY HAVE TAKEN THEIR MANDATE
TO HEART AND THEY HAVE
WORKED EXTREMELY HARD TO MAKE
SURE THAT'S
RECOMMENDATIONS WILL CREATE
SAFETY NETS FOR DOMESTIC
WORKER THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO
BE TREATED LIKE THE
REST -- LIKE ALL WORKERS WITH
RIGHTS AND
OPPORTUNITIES TO ENFORCE THE
RIGHTS.
I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR
MAKING SURE THAT THE
LEGISLATION THAT IS BEING
BROUGHT FORTH TODAY WITH
THE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS IS
NOT INCLUDING THE
DOMESTIC WORKERS, THERE WILL BE
ENGAGEMENT AROUND
THE WORK TERSE MAKE SURE THAT
THEY ARE FULLY COVERED
IN AND THAT LEGISLATION ADOPTED
ACTUALLY MEETS THEIR
NEEDS.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SERVE ON THE BOARD AND FOR ALL
OF THE LEARNING
THINGS, ALL OF THE
OPPORTUNITIES I GOT TO LEARN
FROM
THE BOARD MEMBERS AND ALL OF
THE OPPORTUNITIES I WAS
ABLE TO SHARE MY KNOWLEDGE.
IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE
OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH THIS CITY
PUT TOGETHER RIGHTS AND
RESPONSIBILITIES FOR HIRE
GROUPS AND DOMESTIC WORKERS
THAT I THINK IS PART OF
THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE
MEAN -- WHAT WE MEAN
WHEN WE SAY WE PROTECT WORKERS.
IT'S ALL WORKER.
IT'S JUST BEEN AN HONOR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
COMING BACK TO PROVIDE
THAT PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND YOUR
FLEXIBLE AS WELL.
IT WAS GREAT TIMING ACTUALLY
BECAUSE WE ARE
CONSIDERING THE DOMESTICCA
PARDON ADS POINTMENT
RIGHT NOW AND A GOOD REVIEW FOR
WHAT I SHOULD HAVE
SAID AT THE BEGINNING AS WELL.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE PREVIEW
THAT YOU OUTLINED FOR
THE STANDARDS BOARD
RECOMMENDATIONS, WANT TO NOTE
FOR THE COLLEAGUES AS WELL.
-- A STRONG INTEREST IN MAKING
SURE THAT THERE WAS
UNDERSTANDING INSTEAD OF -- AND
WE WANTED TO MONTH
HONOR THAT REQUEST.
WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER THE
TECHNICAL SYSTEMS NEEDED
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
TRANSLATION CAN HAPPEN AT THE
SAME TIME PER THE REQUEST OF
THE DOMESTIC WORKER'S
STANDARD BOARD AND THAT WILL BE
ON THE AGENDA AT THE
NEXT MEETING BUT IT'S REALLY
HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT
THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE HAVE
THE REPORT OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE AVAILABLE
AND YOU WILL THEN HAVE
A PRESENTATION COMING AT THE
NEXT MEETING THAT WILL
INCLUDE TRANSLATION AT THE SAME
TIME AND I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK WITH
THAT IT TEAM TO MAKE
SURE THAT'S POSSIBLE.
GREAT TF AND I WILL AT THIS
POINT TURN IT OVER TO
JASMINE WHO WILL PROVIDE US
WITH A LITTLE BIT OF AN
OVERVIEW ON THE TWOA POINTMENTS
IN FRONT OF US, THE
DOMESTIC WORKER'S STANDARD
BOARD AND FOR CONTEXT IF
THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT
TO ADD ON THE
RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE
FORTHCOMING DISCUSSION IN
TIMELINE ON THAT.
THAT'S WELCOME AS WELL.
SURE.
THANK YOU.
MY JAIL IS MASS MINE.
I'M A POLICY ANALYST WITH THE
OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS AND STAFF LIASON TO
THE DOMESTIC WORKER'S
STANDARDS BOARD.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT ANOTHER
COUNCIL APPOINTMENT
EKILKA DOMINGUEZ AND ONE
REAPPOINTMENT, EMILY DIL.
I WILL GIVE ANOTHER LOOK AT
BACKGROUND AS YOU MAY
RECALL THE DOMESTIC WORKER'S
STANDARDS BOARD IS
COMMITTED TO IMPROVING THE
WORKING CONDITIONS OF
DOMESTIC WORKERS BY PROVIDING A
PLACE FOR WORKERS,
ORGANIZATIONS, AND THE PUBLIC
TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS.
DO ENFORCE AND EXPAND THE
DOMESTIC WORKER'S
ORDINANCE.
THE BOARD NORMALLY COP SIFTS OF
HALF WORKERS OR
THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND HALF
HIRING GROUPS OR
THEIR REPRESENTATIVES.
SIX THE APPOINTMENT TERMS ARE
ENDING THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF EMPTY
SLOTS.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA OFFICE
AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
ARE WORKING TO REAPPOINT OR
FILL EMPTY SPOTS IN THE
NEXT THREE WEEKS.
YOU MAY SEE SOME MORE
APPOINTMENTS IN THE NEXT
MEETING OR TWO.
AND AS WAS MENTIONED FOR THE
LAST SEVERAL MONTHS THE
BOARD HAS BEEN WORKING ON ITS
INITIAL
RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH IS
ANTICIPATED TO BE PRESENTED
TO YOU ON MAY 18th ASSUMING THE
LANGUAGE ACCESS
NEEDS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE
EXTENSIVELY INFORMED BY
WORKER VOICES AND CENTER THE
DIRECT EXPERIENCE OF
WORKERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THE BOARD IS REALLY EXCITED TO
WELCOME EDILKA
DOMINGUEZ AS A NOMINEE.
SHE HAS BEEN AN ACTIVE STAKE
HOLD AMERICA THE -- AND
BRINGS EXTENSIVE WORKER
EXPERIENCE AS A NANNY TO THE
BOARD.
UNFORTUNATELY SHE COULD NOT BE
HERE DUE TO WORK
OBLIGATIONS SO I WILL READ A
PREPARED STATEMENT FOR
HER.
HERE WE GO.
I AM A NANNY, IMMIGRANT
DOMESTIC WORKER THAT'S BEEN
AN ACTIVE VOLUNTEER FROM
WORKING WASHINGTON SINCE
THREE YEARS AGO.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING AS A NANNY
FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS.
DIFFERENT FAMILY WAS DIFFERENT
BACKGROUNDS.
AS A DOMESTIC WORKER I
EXPERIENCED CHALLENGES IN MY
WORK THAT NOBODY LIKES TO TALK
ABOUT IN THIS
INDUSTRY.
ABUSE, BULLYING, HARASSMENT,
ROBBING OF SALARY AND
TIME AMONG OTHERS.
THIS INDUSTRY IS UNBALANCED.
THERE IS LITTLE TO NO COMMON
GROUND, NO RULES FOR
THE EMPLOYER TO KNOW IF THEY
NEED TO PLAY FAIR,
TREAT THEIR EMPLOYEE WITH
RESPECT OR TALK ABOUT
SOCIAL SECURITY.
I ENJOYED THE MOST MOVEMENT
BECAUSE THE MORE I MET
THE MORE I REALIZED THERE WERE
A LOT OF WORKER THAT
ARE ABUSED BY THE SYSTEM AND
FOR THEIR FEAR OF
LOSING THE KNOB THEY REMAIN
SILENT.
SEATTLE IS ONE OF THE FIRST
STATE THAT STANDS UP
WITH INNOVATION TO LEAD AND
GUIDE US TOGETHER LIKE
EVERY JOB.
I'M PROUD EBLYNEING HERE.
RIGHT NOW MY VOLUNTEER WORK IN
THIS INDUSTRY HAS
BEEN OUTREACHING FOR WORKERS TO
BENEFIT FROM THE
MOVEMENT SHARING MY TESTIMONY
AND CLASSES, HELPING
THE COMMUNITY TO EMPOWER AND T
HVRIVE TOGETHER.
SUPPORTING HEARINGS, INCLUDING
THE BIGGEST IN VEGAS
IN 2020 AND HELPING MEMBERS ON
MEETING ONLINE.
WE ARE STRUGGLING INDUSTRY BUT
WITH YOUR HELP WE
WILL RISE TOGETHER.
I WOULD LOVE TO GET MORE
INVOLVED WITH THE BOARD
BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE DOING IS
IMPORTANT AND WILL
IMPACT MY PEOPLE THAT WORK IN
THE SAME FIELD AS ME.
I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN FROM YOU
TO KEEP REACHING OUT.
CHANGING THEIR LIVES, GIVENNING
THEM MORE KNOWLEDGE
ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS AND LETTING
THEM HEAR FOR THEM
AND TOGETHER WE WILL CHANGE THE
SYSTEM.
THAT'S THE STATEMENT FROM
EDDIE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
SHARING THAT.
>> YEAH.
I CAN TALK ABOUT EMILY DILLS AS
WELL.
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AS FOLKS KNOW, IT -- PER OUR
TRADITION IF THERE IS A
REAPPOINTMENT THEY DO NOT NEED
TO COME IN AND
PREPRESENT WITH US BECAUSE WE
HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO
MEET THEM AND FOLKS WILL REALLY
REMEMBER EMILY FROM
ALL OF THE WORK SHE DID WITH US
AS WE WERE CRAFTING
THE DOMESTIC WORKER'S STANDARDS
BOARD AND I WILL LET
YOU TALK ABOUT HER AS WELL
THENLY MAYBE FILL IN SOME
MORE INFORMATION.
>> WAS JUST GOING TO SAY A
COUPLE THINGS.
SHE HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE,
RUNS A NANNY AGENCY,
HAS WORKED FOR CARE.COM AND --
HAS LAYERS OF
EXPERIENCE AS A HIRING GROUP
AND HAS BEEN A REALLY
VALUABLE ASSET.
IS SHARE OF THE OUTREACH
SUBCOMMITTEE AND ALWAYS IS
THERE FOR OFFERING HER WISDOM
AND EXPERIENCE.
>> WELL, AGREE THAT SHE IS
ALWAYS PRESENT AND
ALWAYS WILLING TO OFFER HER
EXPERIENCE.
LY ALSO NOTE FOR THE
COMMUNITY'S RECOLLECTION EMILY
WORKS WITH SEATTLE NANNY
NETWORK AND THE
ORGANIZATION WAS HELPFUL AND
COMING ONE A POLICY
RECOMMENDATION THAT COULD
REALLY INFORM EMPLOYERS.
THE HIRING GROUP SIDE OF HOW TO
COMPLY WITH THE
DOMESTIC WORKER'S BILL OF
RIGHTS AND WANTING TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE PROVIDED
INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO
VARIOUS TYPES OF HIRING GROUPS
SO THAT PEOPLE HAD
INFORMATION IN HAND TO WANT TO
BE -- WHO WANTED TO
BE THE HIGH ROAD EMPLOYERS, HOW
THEY COULD MAKE SURE
THEY RESPECTED WORKER'S RIGHTS
AND HAVING TOOLS IN
THEIR HAND WAS REALLY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A
LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HIRE A NANNY,
HOUSE CLEANER,
GARDENER, ET CETERA, ARE NOT
USED TO BEG IN THE
EMPLOYER POSITION AND WANTING
TO HAVE ACCESS TO
EXAMPLE CONTRACTS, AND MAKE
SURE THEY WERE PAYING
THE RIGHTA AMOUNT AND SOMETHING
THAT SHOULD LIFT UP.
THAT'S GREAT TO WORK WITH HER
AND SHE FOUNDED THE
COMPANY IN 1997.
HAS BEEN A STRONG ACTIVIST HERE
LOCALLY AND
NATIONALLY AND CONTINUES TO
WORK FOR FAIR WAGES AND
REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF THE
WORK SHE DID WITH US TO
CRAFT THE ORDINANCE ORIGINALLY
AND I KNOW SHE
CONTINUES TO WORK WITH THE
WASHINGTON STATE
COLLABORATIVE TASK FORCE AND
CONTINUED TO SPEAK UP
ABOUT THE RIGHT WORKERS AS
SPEAKINGA BEHALF OF
WHAT -- HIRING GROUPS.
LOCAL FAMILY HOMES AS THEIR
WORKPLACES.
IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP THAT
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
HAVE WITH EMILY OVER THE YEARS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
HERE WITH US TODAY TO
PRESENT ON THE TWO -- THE TWO
APPOINTMENTS.
THE APPOINTMENT AND THE
REAPPOINTMENT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
JASMINE
NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY.
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH JASMINE FOR
YOUR PRESENTATION
AND AT THIS POINT I WILL MOVE
THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF AT
POINTMENTS.
EDILKA AND THE REAPPOINTMENT OF
EMILY DILS AS
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
S.
>> THANK YOU.
ARE THINK MORE QUESTIONS
>> WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON THE PASSAGE OF
THE APPOINTMENT.
>> MOSQUEDA.
>> HI.
>> VICE CHAIR HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> MADAM CHAIR THAT IS FOUR IN
FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MADAM CLERK.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
WILL BE SENT TO THE MAY 10th
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
IF YOU COULD PASS ON THE
APPRECIATION TO THE TWO
INDIVIDUALS AND LOOK FORWARD TO
HAVING THE
RECOMMENDATION CONTINUE TO BE
DISCUSSED AT OUR NEXT
MEETING AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK ON THAT
TRANSLATION.
I KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WE
ARE GOING TO CONTINUE
TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE IT
POSSIBLE AND FOLLOW UP
WITH YOU AND THE TEAM AND SEE
WHAT IS POSSIBLE THE
NEXT FEW WEEKS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
PRESENTATION HAPPENS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S MOVE ONTO ITEM NUMBER 8.
MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ
THAT IN TO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR
CONTRACT WORKERS FOR
BRIEFING DISCUSS.
>> WONDERFUL.
AND WITH US TODAY WE HAVE
KARINA BULL FROM CENTRAL
STAFF.
THANK YOU AS WAS.
IT'S FUN TO HAVE THE DOMESTIC
WORKER'S STANDARD
BOARD AND LSAC NOMINEES IN
FRONT OF US TODAY.
ALL OF THE WORK HAS YOUR
FINGERPRINTS ON IT WHETHER
IT'S HERE AT CENTRAL STAFF OR
PREVIOUSLY AT LOS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM
AND THE FOLKS AT OLS
WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
PROVIDE US WITH INFORMATION
ON THIS TOPIC OVER THE LAST TWO
MEETINGS.
WE DID HAVE A SLIGHT DELAY IN
THE PRESENTATION OF
THE LAST COMMITTEEW.
REOFFERING EXTRA TIME TODAY.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
WOW LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS IN
E. LAPPIE TO DO SO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU CHAIR MOSQUEDA FOR
TAKING TIME.
JUST AS A -- LITTLE BIT OF
BACKGROUND.
BACK ON APRIL 6th.
IN THIS ANDISTE WE HEARD FROM
THE LABOR STANDARDS
ADVISORY COMMISSION.
WANT TO SPECIFICALLY THANK YOU
LIZ AND GAYE FOR
TAKING THE TIME TO COME AND
PRESENT THEIR
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS STEM FROM
THE PASSAGE OF
RESOLUTION 31863 WHICH CALLED
ON LSAC TO DEVELOP
RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADDRESS THE
MISS CLASSIFYING OF
EMPLOYEES AS INTO CONTRACTORS.
RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON WHETHER
OR NOT THE CITY
SHOULD RECLASSIFY PEOPLE WHO WE
FELT WERE BEING MISS
CLASSIFIED.
WE INSTEAD DECIDE THAT THE
RECOMMENDATION -- OR LSAC
DECIDED THAT THE RECOMMENDATION
SHOULD INSTEAD FOCUS
ON ENSURING THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE
CLASSIFIED AS
CONTRACTORS, WERE OR NOT THEY
ARE BEING MISS CLASSED
OR NOT GET SOME BASIC
INFORMATION AROUND THE TERMS
OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT.
THAT'S WHY THEIR
RECOMMENDATIONS FOCUSED ON
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCESS TO
INFORMATION AMONG THOSE
CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED IN THE
CONTRACTOR.
RECOMMENDATION IS POLICY
REGARDING HIRING GROUPS, TO
PROVIDE GREATER INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR -- CONTRACT
WORKERS, PRECONTRACT AND POST
CONTRACT INFORMATION
SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE
TERMS OF THEIR ENGAGEMENT
AND DETERMINE IF THE TERMS HAVE
BEEN SATISFIED.
EVEN THOUGH WE WERE NOT ABLE TO
HEAR THE DRAFT
LEGISLATION LAST COMMITTEE,
AGAIN THIS IS DRAFT
LEGISLATION, IT'S NOT YET BEEN
INTRODUCED AND
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
WORK THROUGH SOME OF
THE ISSUES IN COMMITTEE BEFORE
WE INTRODUCE THE
LEGISLATION.
WE HAVE BEEN CONTINUING TO HAVE
MEETINGS WITH STAKE
HOLDERS AND KARINA HAS BEEN
FANTASTIC TO -- TO
INCLUDE THE INPUT OF THE STAKE
HOLDERS SO THAT SHE
CAN PROVIDE TODAY'S DRAFT
LEGISLATION AND
PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE RECEIVED FEEDBACK ON
THE DRAFT FROM THE
OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS AND
WE HAVE HEARD FROM
COMMUNITY AS WE HEARD THIS
MORNING THAT GIG WORKERS,
WANT ADDITIONAL PROTECTION
BEYOND THOSE RECOMMENDED
IN THE LSAC REPORT AND I
APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF
THE CAMPAIGN TO INTRODUCE
COMPENSATION ISSUE THAT
WERE NOT DEALT WITH IN THE BILL
BUT WE HAVE -- WE
WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS.
A NONCODIFIED SECTION IN THE
BILL THAT OUTLINES A
TIMELINE TO ADDRESS THE
CONCERNS AND HOLD THIS
RESPONSIBLE TO ADDRESS THE
CONCERNS.
MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
PLATFORMS AS WELL AS
THAT -- THEY TOO ARE COMMITTED
TO ENGAGING IN
CONVERSATIONS AROUND
COMPENSATION AND OUR EFFORTS TO
ADDRESS THAT IN ANOTHER BILL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M KARINA BULL WITH COUNCIL
STEAL STAFF AND I
PREPARED A PRESENTATION FOR THE
DRAFT LEGISLATION
FOR THE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR
PROTECTION.
SO, I WILL SEEK TO SHARE MY
SCREEN TO UP LOAD THAT
PRESENTATION.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT ADVANCED.
HERE WE GO.
SO, THIS -- LEGISLATION AS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD HAS
ALREADY SET UP WILL REQUIRE
PROTECTIONS FOR ALL
CONTRACTORS WORKING IN SEATTLE
THAT ARE WORKING FOR
COVERED HIRE GROUPS AND THE KEY
PARTSst
LEGISLATION DO STEM FROM THE
RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE
LABOR STANDARDS ADVISORY BOARD.
THE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR
PRECONTRACT
DISCLOSURES.
THIS DRAFT ALSO REFLECTS A NEW
REQUIREMENT FOR
TIMELY PAYMENT AND I WILL GO
INTO THE DETAILS OF
THAT LATER ON IN THIS
PRESENTATION.
THE LEGISLATION WOULD BECOME
EFFECTIVE ON MARCH
FIRST OF NEXT YEAR FOR THE
LABOR STANDARDS
PROTECTIONS AND IT WOULD BE
ENFORCED BY THE OFFICE
OF LABOR STANDARDS.
HIRING GROUP COVERAGE HAS --
DRAFTED IN THE CURRENT
LEGISLATION WOULD INCLUDE
COMMERCIAL HIRING GROUPS
THAT'S BASICALLY ANOTHER NAME.
HIRING AN INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR TO SUPPORT THEIR
BUSINESS SERVICES.
IF IT'S A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER
THAT IS PERHAPS NOT
INCORPORATED, IF THAT BUSINESS
OWNER IT WOULD HIRE A
CONTRACTOR IN THEIR PERSONAL
LIFE TO DO SOMETHING
FOR THEM THAT.
YEAR WOULD NOT BE -- IF THEY
HIRE AID CONTRACTOR.
IF IT'S A BOOKKEEPER OR
CARMENTER THEN THAT
CONTRACTOR WOULD BE COVERED.
ALSO COVERED ARE ANY HIRING
GROUP THAT HIRES AN
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR FOR
DOMESTIC WORKER SERVICES.
THAT WOULD BE BOTH THE BUSINESS
AND A PRIVATE PARTY.
AS FAR AS CONTRACTOR COVERAGE
IT'S FOLKS WORKING IN
WHOLE OR PART OF SEATTLE.
TAKES PLACE IN SEATTLE.
THEY WOULD BE COVERED.
THERE ARE EXCLUSIONS IN THE
LEGISLATION FOR
ATTORNEYS AND LICENSED MEDICAL
PROFESSIONALS WORKING
WITH IN THE SCOPE OF THE
PROFESSION.
THEY WORK UNDER A -- UNDER A
CODE OF ETHICS THAT THE
GOVERNOR PRACTICES AND THEY
HAVE SIGNIFICANT
BARGAINING POWER THAT MAY NOT
BE AVAILABLE TO OTHER
CONTRACTORS.
ALSO WHEN THE LEGISLATION IS
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR --
THAT WILL EXEMPT OTHER YEARS
WORKING IN PROFESSIONS
COVERED BY A SIMILAR CODE OF
ETHICS.
THE PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE AS
WE HAVE HEARD WOULD
PROVIDE BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT
THE PROPOSED TERMS
AND CONDITIONS OF WORK.
THIS COULD TAKE PLACE IN THE
FORM OF A PIECE OF
PAPER THAT SAYS PRECONTRACT
DISCLOSURE.
IT COULD BE ACTUALLY IN A JOB
OFFER.
IT COULD BE IN A CONTRACT WITH
THAT BOTH PARTIES
HAVE AGREED TO.
THE PREMISE IS BEFORE THE
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR
BEGINS WORK THAT PERSON IS
INFORMED OF THE TERMS AND
CONDITIONS AND THE PAYMENT
SCHEDULE AND OTHER VITAL
INFORMATION.
THAT MAY LEAD TO THE
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR NOT
BEGINNING WORK WITH THE TERMS
AREN'T FAVORABLE.
IF THEY DO THEN THEY WILL HAVE
A WRITTEN DOCUMENT
THAT REFLECTS THE TERMS OF
THEIR WORK.
IT WOULD ABOUT PROVIDED IN
ENGLISH AND THE
INDEPENDENT CONTRACT EAR'S
PRIMARY LANGUAGE.
THE THREE PARTS THAT HAVE
LEGISLATION NEAR THE THREE
PARTS OF THE WAGE -- OR
EMPLOYEES SO ESSENTIALLY
THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE THE
WAGE THEFT ORDINANCE FOR
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS.
A PARALLEL TO THE ORDINANCE FOR
EMPLOYEES.
ONE OF THE REASONS I MENTIOND
THAT IS BECAUSE IN
THE WAGE THEFT ORDINANCE FOR
EMPLOYEES THERE IS A
REQUIREMENT FOR -- NOTICE OF
EMPLOYMENT INFORMATION
THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE
AND IT'S REQUIRED FOR EMPLOYERS
TO PROVIDE THAT
INFORMATION IN ENGLISH AND IN
THE EMPLOYEE'S PRIMARY
LANGUAGE.
WITH THAT IS WHERE THIS
REQUIREMENT COMES FROM THEIR
THE TRANSLATION.
HERE I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF
THESE PIECES OF
INFORMATION BUT THIS GIVES YOU
A FLAVOR OF THE
DIFFERENT KINDS OF REQUIRED
ITEMS AND THE
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE TO MAKE
SURE WORKERS NOPE THE
BASICS OF THE PROPOSED WORK.
NEXT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR
TIMELY PAYMENT.
THIS IS -- IF A CONTRACTOR
BEGINS WORKING FOR A
HIRING GROUP AND THEN THEY ARE
OWED THE MONEY THAT
IS REFLECTED IN THE PRECONTRACT
DISCLOSURE.
IT'S PAYMENT OF THE AMOUNT DUE
OR RELATED CONTRACT
IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE
PARTIES HAVE ENTERED
IN IT.
THE PAYMENT WOULD BE DUE ON A
SPECIFIED DATE IF WILL
NO SPECIFIED DATE PAYMENT IS
DUE NO LATER THAN 30
DAYS AFTER THE COMPLETION OF
THE INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR'S SERVICES.
THERE ARE TWO OTHER PLACES
RIGHT NOW.
TWO OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT
HAVE LAWS FOR FREE
LANCERS, NEW YORK CITY,
MINNEAPOLIS, BOTH OF THOSE
LAWS DO REQUIRE TIMELY PAYMENT.
THEIR LAWS ARE REQUIRING
WRITTEN CONTRACT IN A
TIMELY PAYMENT.
THIS IS NOT UNPRECEDENTED
TERRITORY FOR A
JURISDICTION TO REQUIRE THIS
KIND OF LEGAL
OBLIGATION FOR INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS.
AND LAST THE THIRD MAIN PART OF
THIS LEGISLATION IS
A PAYMENT DISCLOSURE WHICH IS
ANOTHER WORD FOR AN
ITEM PAY RECEIPT.
IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT A
HIRING GROUP WOULD NEED
TO PROVIDE IN A WRITTEN FORMAT.
EACH TIME THAT THE WAGES ARE --
AND PAYMENT IS PAID
TO -- INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR.
THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT TO
PROVIDE THIS
INFORMATION IN THE INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR'S PRIMARY
LANGUAGE.
SIMILAR TO THE WAGE THEFT
ORDINANCE.
THERE IS AN ITEM PAY STATEMENT
AND THAT ORDINANCE AS
WELL, HERE AGAIN IS AN OVERVIEW
OF THE INFORMATION
THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE PAYMENT
DISCLOSURE.
IT'S CLOSELY MODELED AFTER THE
ITEM PAY STATEMENT
THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR
EMPLOYEES.
THIS ALSO REFLECTS THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE LABOR
STANDARDS ADVISORY BOARD AS DO
THE PARTS OF THE
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURES.
OTHER WORK REQUIREMENTS IN THE
LEGISLATION ARE
FAMILIAR TO FOLKS WHO ALREADY
KNOW ABOUT OUR LABOR
STANDARDS L IS A NOTICE OF
RIGHTS REQUIREMENT,
REQUIRINGED TO BE IN ENGLISH
AND THE PRIMARY
LANGUAGE.
AND CREATING MODEL NOTICES FOR
THIS NOTICE OF RIGHTS
AS WELL AS MODEL NOTICES IN
ENGLISH AND OTHER
LANGUAGES OF THE PRECONTRACT
DISCLOSURE AND PAYMENT
DISCLOSURE, THERE WOULD BE
RECORD KEEPING
REQUIREMENTS, AND PROHIBITED
RETALIATION SO IF THE
WORKER ASKS FOR A PRECONTRACT
DISCLOSURE THE HIRING
GROUP WOULD BE PREVENTED FROM
RETALIATING AGAINST
THAT WORKER.
ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE BY THE
OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS.
THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ENDORSE
VIOLATIONS WHETHER
THROUGH A COMPLAINT OR THROUGH
A DIRECTED
INVESTIGATION BY AN
INVESTIGATION AND THERE ARE
SOMETHING NEW IN THIS
LEGISLATION CALLED A COMPLAINT
PROSECUTE SAID YOU'RE.
THAT IS -- THE STEPS OF THAT
ARE OUTLINED IN THE
LEGISLATION.
THE IDEA BEHIND THE COMPLAINT
PROCEDURE IS THAT IT'S
A WAY FOR OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS TO ADDRESS
COMPLAINTS OF VIOLATION AND A
WAY THAT IS FAST,
EFFICIENT AND HOPEFULLY NOT
CONTROVERSIAL AND IT HAS
BASICALLY OLS BEING THE PATHWAY
OF INFORMATION TO
BOTH PARTIES.
I COMPLAINT ISN'T WOULD TARGET
OLS -- WOULD SEND A
NOTICE TO THE HIRING GROUP AND
THEN THEY WOULD
PROVIDE KNOX BACK TO OLS WHICH
WOULD BE SENT BACK TO
THE HIRING GROUP.
IT'S NOT A SITUATION WHERE OLS
WOULD BE MAKING A
DETERMINATION OF IF A VIOLATION
HAPPENED BUT IT'S A
SAY FOR A CONTRACTOR WHO MAY
NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE
DIRECTLY CONNECTING WITH THE
HIRING GROUP TO TRY TO
GET THE INFORMATION OR TRY TO
GET THE PAYMENT.
AFTERWARDS THE CONTRACTOR IF
NECESSARY COULD GO TO
COURT TO ENFORCE THE
LEGISLATION OR PERHAPS A HIRING
GROUP WOULD COMPLY AS A RESULT
THE PROCESS GOING
FORWARD.
THERE WOULD BE A PRIVATE RITE
OF ACTION WHICH MEANS
THAT CONTRACTORS WOULD HAVE THE
ABILITY TO FILE A
LAWSUIT IN ORDER TO GET THE
DISCLOSURE NOTICES OR TO
GET THE PAYMENT.
THE COURT COULD AWARD ATTORNEY
FEES AND PLUS COSTS
WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR
CONTRACTORS WHO ARE
TRYING TO SEEK PAYMENT.
THERE'S A WEALTH OF STUDIES
THAT I THINK ABOUT A 70%
OF CONTRACTORS GET LATE PAYMENT
AT SOME POINT IN
TIME DURING THE WORK OR NO
PAYMENT AT ALL.
VERY SMALL NUMBER OF FOLKS
PURSUE THE CLAIMS.
IT'S AS LITTLE AS 5% IN SOME
AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.
THE ABILITY TO RECEIVE ATTORNEY
FEES UPON PREVAILING
FOR A CLAIM TO GET PAYMENT IS
REALLY SIGNIFICANT AND
CAN PROVIDE THE SUPPORT AND THE
BOOST FOR
CONTRACTORS TO MAKE SURE THEY
GET PAID TO GO TO
COURT FOR THAT.
REMEDIES WOULD BE GETTING THE
DISCLOSURE, GETTING
THE UNPAID COMPENSATION.
SIMILAR TO A -- I BELIEVE ALL
OF THE LABOR STANDARDS
AND FOR THE WAGE THEFT
ORDINANCE FOR EMPLOYEES THERE
COULD BE THE ABILITY TO GET UP
TO THREE TIMES THE
AMOUNT OWED, TIMELY PAYMENT IS
NOT PROVIDED.
PENALTIES AND FINES UP TO A
LITTLE OVER $4,500 PER
VIOLATION AND OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDARDS COULD LOWER
THE FINES DEPENDING ON THE
CIRCUMSTANCES OF EACH
SITUATION.
ET'S SEE.
MOVING CLOSE TO THE END.
SOMETHING NOTICEABLE ABOUT THIS
LEGISLATION IS THAT
THERE IS A UNIQUE ENFORCEMENT
MODE EL THAT WAS
RECOMMENDED BY THE LABOR
STANDARDS ADVISORY
COMMISSION.
IT'S A REBUTTABLE [INAUDIBLE]
FOR PAYMENT THIS IS A
LEGAL TERM FOR WHAT HAPPENS IF
A HIRING GROUP
DOESN'T PROVIDE A PRECONTRACT
DISCLOSURE WORK ARE
THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND
WHAT IF THE HIRING
GROUP PROVIDES A PRECONTRACT
BUT DOESN'T HONOR IT
WHEN IT COMES TIME TO PAY THE
CONTRACTOR.
IF THOSE SITUATINS IF THERE IS
NO DISCLOSURE THERE
WOULD BE A LEGAL UNDERSTANDING
-- RECONTRIBUTABLE BY
CLEAR AND COUNT CONVINCING
EVIDENCE THAT THE
CONTRACTOR'S CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT
ARE TRUE.
SOTHAT MEANS THAT THE COURT OR
OLS WOULD DESCRIBE
THE CONTRACTOR UNLESS THE
HIRING GROUP PROVIDED
EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTED THEIR
VERSION OF THE
SITUATION.
NO WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY PROMISE
TO PAY $100 FOR THIS.
WE PROMISED TO PAY $50 AND HERE
IS OUR WRITTEN
CONTRACT TO SHOW THAT.
ALSO, THERE IS A NONCODIFIED
SECTION THAT WOULD
REFERENCE THE COUNCIL'S INTENT
FOR GIG WORKERS AND
THAT WOULD CONSIST OF MINIMUM
COMPENSATION,
FLEXIBILITY PROTECTION,
TRANSPARENCY INFORMATION,
RIGHT NOW THE LEGISLATION
ANNOUNCED THE COUNCIL
ALLEGE INTENT TO CONSIDER SUCH
LEGISLATION FOR FULL
COUNCIL VOTE BEFORE THE
BEGINNING OF THE FALL BUDGET
DELIBERATION.
THAT IS ALL FOR MY PRESENTATION
OF THE BASICS OF THE
LEGISLATION.
I HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME ISSUES
THAT THE COUNCIL MAY
WANT TO CONSIDER BUT CERTAINLY
WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT
UP FOR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
>> LET'S HOLD THERE FOR A
SECOND.
PLEASE GO HEAD.
>> YES.
IF WE COULD GO BACK TO SLIDE 2.
JUST WANT TO -- TAKE A MINUTE
TO CLARIFY SOME THING
AROUND THE HIRING GROUP
COVERAGE.
YOU KNOW THIS -- WE ALL
RECEIVED RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM DOMESTIC WORKER STANDER
STANDARDS OR BACK ON
APRIL, WHAT WAS IT APRIL 8th
THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE COVERED
ON PAGE 6 AND 10 AND
I WILL READ THE EXCERTIFICATE
FROM TEN.
THEY RECOMMEND PROVIDING WORKS
ABOUT THEIR
RIGHTS AND THIS SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED THE COUNCIL'S
CONSIDERATION OF TRIED
TRANSPARENCY FOR INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS IF THAT MOVES
FORWARD.
SO, THE INCLUSION.
WE HAD PLANNED TO DISCUSS THIS
IN A LAST COMMITTEE
MEETING.
THERE WAS -- A MEMO THAT KARINA
PRODUCED THAT HAD
OPTIONS THAT WE COULD PURSUE
INCLUDING IN SORT OF
PICKING CHOOSING ACROSS A LOT
OF DIFFERENT ISSUES
WHICH KAR INA HAD IDENTIFIED.
THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES
AND I MOVED FORWARD
ASKING QARINA THAT IN THIS
VERSION OF THE BILL,
AGAIN IT'S NOT BEEN INTRODUCED
YET THAT THE BILL
INCLUDES, COVERAGE FOR THE
HIRING GROUPS, HIRING
DOMESTIC WORKERS BASED ON THE
APRIL 6th
RECOMMENDATIONS.
I UNDERSTAND PROCONVERSATIONS
THAT WE HAVE HAD
RECENTLY THAT THERE IS INTEREST
IN ACTUALLY NOT
INCLUDING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS
IN THE BILL BEFORE
US.
SO I SIGNALED KARINA THAT I'M
HAPPY TO PULL THIS
PART OF THE LANGUAGE OUT OF THE
BILL.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS
REALLY CLEAR BECAUSE
OF SOME OF THE TESTIMONY WE
HAVE HEARD THIS MORNING.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ACCOUNT
THE INFORMATION
THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED SO FAR
BEFORE GOING INTO ISSUE
ID'S
>> KAR I'M NOT SEEING ANY
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
I WANT TO GIVE FOLKS A QUICK
SECOND.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I
UNDERSTAND THE
COUNCILMEMBER, THANK YOU FOR
THAT.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT SECOND
BULLET THEN.
CAN I ALSO JUST DOUBLE CHECK
HERE
IN THE MEMO IT SAID THAT THE
LEGISLATION WOULD NOT
COVER NONCOMMERCALUPS.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE
DOMESTIC WORKER HIRED UNDER
THE SECOND BULLET POINT WOULD
HAVE TO BE HIRED BY A
COMMERCIAL GROUP OR IS THAT
WHOLE ISSUE TAKEN CARE
OF
>> SO IF THERE IS -- I'M GOING
TO MAKE UP A
SITUATION HERE BUT IF THERE IS
-- LIKE MICROSOFT IS
HIRING, A DOMESTIC WORKER FOR
AN EMPLOYEE THAT LIVES
IN SEATTLE AND MICROSOFT IS
PLAY PAY THAT DOMESTIC
WORKER AND HIRING THEM THEN IN
THAT SITUATION THE
DOMESTIC WORKER WOULD BE
COVERED.
IT IS A DOMESTIC WORKER HIRED
BY A COMMERCIAL HIRING
GROUP.
>> OKAY.
THIS IS GOING TO THEN BE SCOPED
TO JUST COMMERCIAL
HIRING GROUP.
>> CORRECT.
THEN.
GO HEAD.
>> ANY INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR
HIRED BY A PRIVATE
PARTY WOULD NOT BE COVERED
JUST -- COMMERCIAL HIRING
GROUPS FOR THE LEGISLATION
BUT IF -- ANY CONTRACTOR HIRED
BY THE BUSINESS.
>> BY A BUSINESS.
SO, I HAVE NOT SORT OF DONE A
SIDE BY SIDE
COMPARISON WITH DOMESTIC
WORKERS BILL OF RIGHTS THAT
WE PASSED AND WE WILL ADMIT WE
ARE ALSO DOING THIS
úIN ADDITION TO THE -- I HAVEN'
HAD THE CHANCE TO
REALLY DO A SIDE BY SIDE WITH
THE DOMESTIC WORKER'S.
HIM I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER --
PART OF WHAT THE BILL
OF RITES ASKS FOR IS A MODEL
CONTRACT AND SO, IF
THIS IS JUST SPECIFIC TOKO
COMMERCIAL HIRING GROUPS,
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THEY
OVERLAP OR IF THERE IS
HARMONY THERE WITH THE REQUEST
FOR THE DOMESTIC
WORKERS -- STANDARDS BOARD TO
COME UP WITH A MODEL
CONTRACT FOR US
IS -- IS THAT AN AREA
>> I THINK THAT'S OUT OF THE
SCOPE OF THIS
PARTICULAR BILL.
THOUGH I -- I THINK THAT WE
SHOULD DEFINITELY WORK
ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS BILL IS NOT -- AS WE HAVE
SCOPED IT NOT
INTENDED TO DEFINE WHAT A MODEL
CONTRACT IS BUT JUST
REQUIRE THAT WILL BE ADVANCE
NOTICE BEFORE
CONTRACTING OF WHAT THE -- THE
EXPECTATIONS ARE AS
WELL AS TRANSPARENCY AT TIME OF
PAYMENT ON HOW THOSE
EXPECTATIONS WERE FILLED.
CREATING WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS
ARE IT'S IN A MODEL
CONTRACT.
YOU GO BEYOND THAT TRANSPARENCY
PIECE.
>> ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
THIS IS -- IT'S A PRECONTRACT
SITUATION.
AS DRAFTED THIS LEGISLATION IS
NOT REQUIRING A
CONTRACT.
HOWEVER, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE
PRESUMPTION WHICH IS
USED FOR ENFORCEMENT WHEN A
CONTRACTOR BEGINS
WORKING FOR A BUSINESS THEN IF
THERE IS A
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE PROVIDED
IT TURNS IN TO A
CONTRACT SO THERE IS --
DIFFERENT WAYS OF THINKING
ABOUT IT.
THIS LEGISLATION DOESN'T
REQUIRE A CONTRACT WITH IN
THE CONTEXT OF ENFORCEMENT.
THIS DISCLOSURE CAN BECOME A
CONTRACT.
SO TO SPEAK.
THINKING ABOUT HOW COMMON LAW
CONTRACTS WORK AND
THEN OTHER SITUATIONS SEPARATE
FROM ENFORCING LAW A
COURT MAY DECIDE THAT MAY
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE,
WHEN A WORKER BEGINS PREFORMING
WORK THAT
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE MAY BE
PART OF THE C. IN THE
CONTEXT THAT HAVE LAW IT'S NOT
REQUIRING CONTRACT AT
THE OUTSET.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY MORE
QUESTIONS OF THE ONSET HERE.
LET'S GO HEAD AND MOVE ONTO
ISSUE IDENTIFICATION.
>> OKAY.
I WILL MOVE FORWARD IT'S A NICE
TRANSITION.
I SAID THIS LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE
A WRITTEN CONTRACT.
ONE ISSUE TO CONSIDER IS IN
THIS LAW INCLUDE A
REQUIREMENT FOR A WRITTEN
CONTRACT INSTEAD OF A
PRECONTRACT DECEMBER CLOSURE
THERE ARE PROSXCONS TO BOTH
TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS.
I THINK IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO
TRY TO BENEFIT THE
WRITTEN CONTRACT.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS
REQUIRED AS A PREVIOUSLY
MENTIONED BY NEW YORK CITY AND
MINNEAPOLIS.
THEIR LAW THAT PROTECT FREE
LANCERS AND THE BENEFITS
OF A WRITTEN CONTRACT ARE THAT
IT CAN REPRESENT MORE
OF A MEETING OF THE MINDS
BETWEEN PARTIES BECAUSE
IT'S REQUIRING PARTICIPATION BY
BOTH THE BUSINESS
AND THE CONTRACTOR RATHER THAN
ONE PARTY PRESENTING
AN OFFER THAT THEN BY DEFAULT
MAY BE PART OF A
CONTRACT.
IT IS A -- A WRITTEN CONTRACT,
LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE
DOCUMENT SO, THERE WOULDN'T
NEED TO BE THIS REBUT
CONTRIBUTAL IT.
WOULD BE A LEGALLY BINDING
DOCUMENT THAT THE COURT
OF LAW WOULD HONOR.
THEY ARE -- OF COURSE THERE MAY
BE DISAGREEMENTS DID
THE WORK CONFIRM TO THE
CONTRACT AND THOSE SORTS OF
THINGS BUT A WRITTEN CONTRACT
IS THE LEGALLY BINDING
AGREEMENT.
THE DOWNSIDE IS THAT IT --
REQUIRING WRITTEN
CONTRACT WOULD LIMIT THE
FLEXIBILITY OF ENTERING IN
TO VERBAL CONTRACTS.
I WANT TO HIRE YOU TO DO X IN
MY BUSINESS AND THAT
IS DONE.
EVEN WITH IN THE CONTEXT OF THE
LEGISLATION AS IT'S
CURRENTLY DRAFTED THE ABILITY
TO ENGAGE IN ORAL
CONTRACTS IS DIMINISHED BECAUSE
THERE NEEDS TO BE A
WRITTEN PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE.
THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
IT CAN BE CHANGED BY AN ORAL
AGREEMENT SO THAT DOES
GIVE FLEXIBILITY.
THIS LEGISLATION REQUIRES
SOMETHING WRITTEN WITH THE
BEGINNING OF ANY AGREEMENT TO
WORK BETWEEN A
BUSINESS AND A CONTRACTOR.
WE ALSO HEARD, YEAH,.
>> I'M CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT.
I THOUGHT THAT THE WAY WE
STRUCTURED WAS THE
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE, THAT IN
HE IS SENSE BECOMES
THE EXTRA
>> THERE IS DIFFERENT WAYS OF
STRUCTURING.
THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW
IS THAT THE REBUTTAL
DOSE INTO EFFECT IN THE CONTEXT
OF ENFORCEMENT.
IT COULD BE WRITTEN DIFFERENTLY
IF -- TO HAVE A
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE BECOME A
CONTRACT WHEN THE
CONTRACTOR BEGINS WORK.
THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT
DRAFTING DECISION THAT
WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME
AND THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AS WELL.
>> I JUST -- I'M JUST THINKING
SORT OF -- THE
REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION ASIDE I
WAS UNDER THE
IMPRESSION THAT BY MERIT OF
THERE BEING A
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE AND THEN
WORK DONE UNDER THAT
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE THAT
MAKES THE PRECONTRACT
DISCLOSURE A CONTRACT.
THAT'S -- IF HIGH LEVEL.
THAT'S WHAT THEY THOUGHT THE
PURPOSE OF THE
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE WAS.
THAT IN ITSELF -- BECOMES THE
EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT
THE BENEFITS ARE ASSOCIATE WITH
THE WORK.
>> I WANT TO SPEAK CAREFULLY
BECAUSE THIS ISN'T
MY -- CONTRACT LAW IS NOT MY
AREA OF EXPERIENCE.
MY SENSE IS IF THERE WERE
DISPUTE ABOUT A
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE ABSENCE
THIS -- THAT A COURT
WOULD TAKE THE PRECONTRACT
DISCLOSURE UNDER
CONSIDERATION FOR THINKING --
FOR DECIDING ON WHAT
THE TERMS WERE PERHAPS THERE
COULD BE OTHER
CONSIDERATIONS ALSO, WRITTEN
CONTRACT.
I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT AN
ORAL AGREEMENT WOULD
FACTOR INTO THAT SITUATION.
IF IT'S -- IF THE LAW SAYS
CLEARLY THAT A
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE IS THE
CONTRACT THAT WILL
HAVE A GREATER LEGAL AUTHORITY
THAN NOT SAYING THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> A CONCERN ABOUT A WRITTEN
CONTRACT AND I THINK
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT -- WE
HEARD EARLIER IN THE
PRESENTATION TODAY IS THAT SOME
CONTRACTORS MAY NOT
FEEL COMFORTABLE ENTERING IN TO
A WRITTEN CONTRACT
WHERE THEY WOULD NEED TO SIGN
THEIR NAME, FEAR OF
RETALIATION, FEAR OF CREATING A
PAPER TRAIL FOR THE
WORK ARRANGEMENT.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS
WELL.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO, JUST WANT TO HAVE A BETTER
SENSE OF WHAT THE
PROCESS IS HERE.
THIS IS DRAFT LEGISLATION,
RIGHT
I BELIEVE THE MAIN SPONSOR IS
ASKING IN QUESTIONS
AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE
DISCUSSING IT FOR TODAY.
THESE ARE -- DAYLIGHT SOME
POTENTIAL ITEMS TO FLAG
FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION INTO A
BILL FOR PRODUCTION.
OKAY.
APPRECIATE THE -- THE --
ADDITIONAL WORK THAT MAY GO
INTO THE ITEM.
I WANT TO FLAG FOR FOLKS WHAT
MAY -- WHO WEREN'T
PART OF THE WAGE THEFT
ORDINANCE IN THE PAST.
I WASN'T HERE WHEN THAT IN
ORDERRANCE PASSED.
WE KNOW THAT MANY OF THE
BARRIERS TO ENFORCEMENT OF
THE WAGE THEFT ORDINANCE CAME
IN THE FORM OF WORKERS
BEING TOLD THAT THEY WEREN'T
GOING TO GET PAID AND
NOT PAID THE AMOUNT THEY WERE
ORIGINALLY TOLD.
WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR
ENFORCEMENT SPD WOULD SAY,
WHERE IS YOUR WRITTEN PAPER
FRAIL
THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK TO TRY
GET A FORM, A MOCK
FORM DEVELOPED.
THAT WE CREATED A MOCK FORM
THAT PEOPLE COULD HAVE
TO REALLY DOCUMENT WHAT THEY
WERE SUPPOSED TO BE
PAID.
THAT INSTEAD OF NOT HAVING A
STRONGER GUIDANCE ON
WHAT SHOULD BE PROVIDED BEFORE
WORK BEGINS SO IF
THERE IS ANY WAGE THEFT PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE
THAT PAPER TRAIL.
JUST FROM A BASIC UNDERSTANDING
úWANT TO SAY WHY THIS
POINT IS IMPORTANT TO GET RIGHT
AND THAT THE VALUE
OF HAVING A CONTRACT OF SOME
FORM.
ASSOCIATION COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD I DON'T KNOW IF
THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT
TO FLAG ON THIS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT PIECE THAT WE
GET.
OKAY.
GREAT.
LET'S MOVE ON.
>> OKAY.
>> THE NEXT ISSUE IS
ENFORCEMENT.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE IMPACT OF
THE LEGISLATION ON
THE SMALL HIRING GROUP AND SO,
WE KNOW THAT THE
SMALL HIRING GROUP IS LIMITED
TO A SMALL BUSINESS
WHICH COULD BE -- A BUSINESS
WITH NO EMPLOYEES, IT
COULD BE A BUSINESS WITH ONE OR
TWO EMPLOYEES.
I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT 90,000
BUSINESSES REGISTERED
IN CITY OF SEATTLE FOR A
BUSINESS LICENSE.
I THINK ABOUT 40,000 OF THOSE
DON'T HAVE EMPLOYEES.
THAT'S A LOT OF -- IN SEATTLE.
IT WOULD NEED TO BE SIGNIFICANT
OUTREACH TO MAKE
SURE THEY ARE AWARE OF THEIR
OBLIGATIONS.
ALL OF THESE OBLIGATIONS ARE
REQUIRED FOR ANY
BUSINESS THAT HAS AN EMPLOYEE
AND THE REMEDIES ALL
THE SAME.
REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF
BUSINESS FOR BUSINESSES
THAT DO HAVE EMPLOYEES.
IF THERE IS A SMALL BUSINESS --
IT MAY NOT BE
PREPPED TO PROVIDE SOMETHING
LIKE A WRITTEN CONTRACT
OR A PAYMENT RECEIPT EVERY TIME
PAYMENT IS MADE.
ONE COULD ARGUE THEY SHOULD
ALWAYS PREP TO HONOR THE
PAYMENT.
THIS NEXT ISSUE TO THINK ABOUT
IS IF THERE IS
CONCERN, THIS IS WAY TOO MUCH
TEXT NO THEY WITH IS
ONLY HAVE ONE TYPE OF HIRING
GROUP COVERED.
IF HAVE IS CON CERTAIN ABOUT
THE IMPACT OF -- PERHAPS THE
LEGISLATION CAN ADDRESS THAT
AND A
MORE CLEAR WAY THAN IT ALREADY
DOES.
THE LEGISLATION ALREADY GIVES
THE OLS DIRECTOR THE
ABILITY TO CONSIDER THE WHOLE
RANGE OF CIRCUMSTANCES
WHEN DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO
MAKE A BUSINESS PAY
UP TO THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT
OWED WHETHER OR NOT TO
MAKE THE BUSINESS PAY PENALTIES
OR FINES.
THE DIRECTOR ALREADY HAS THAT
DISCRETION AND CAN
CONSIDER A RANGE OF THINGS.
THE SIZE THE BUSINESS.
THE EXTENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES,
WAS IT JUST A
MISTAKE, ET CETERA.
THERE COULD BE AN INTEREST IN
REQUIRING OLS TO MAYBE
NOT IMPOSE FINES OR DAMAGES FOR
FIRST VIOLATION BY A
SMALL BUSINESS, THAT COULD BE
PART OF THE
LEGISLATION IN SMALL BUSINESS
WOULD NEED TO BE
DEFINED IN SOME WAY OR
RELEGATED TO RULE MAKING OR
JUST THE LEGISLATION COULD BE
LEFT AS IS AND THE AND
THE -- AND THE DIRECTOR HAS THE
DISCRETION TO MAKE
THE DETERMINATIONS IN THE
CONTEXT OF THE
INVESTIGATION.
I WILL -- OOPS.
TRY TO TAKE OUT SOME OF THAT
TEXT SO YOU COULD READ
IT BUT IT LOOKS LIKE I'M NOT
ABLE TO DO THAT WHILE
SCREEN SHARING.
>> IT WOULD EFFECTIVELY -- THE
LANGUAGE YOU WOULD
WANT TO TAKE OUT.
WITH THAT BE B AND D BECAUSE
THAT HAVE ISSUE HAS
BEEN ADDRESSED WITH
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S
COMMITMENT TO REMOVE
IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY BECAUSE
THE
DIRECTOR ALREADY HAS THE
DISCRETION TO ALL OF THIS.
.
>>> YEAH, A AND C. TWO OPTIONS.
SIMPLE ONES.
>> I WILL NOTE COUNCILMEMBERS,
THAT THERE IS SHALL
A CONCERN I'M HAVING ABOUT THE
SIZE OF THE EMPLOYER,
RIGHT
AND IF IT'S ONE INDIVIDUAL YOU
-- EVEN MENTIONED AN
INDIVIDUAL WHO MAY NOT HAVE ANY
EMPLOYEES.
IF THEY ARE DOING THE HIRING
THAT MAKES MANY MAKES ME
CONCERNED
ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN
THAT'S BEING
PROPOSED.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN
LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT
THRESHOLD AND WANT TO FLAG
THAT.
THE OTHER THING -- WE DIDN'T
SPEND I -- BUT MAYBE
THE PRIME SPONSOR OR ANY
DEFINITION INFORMATION YOU
THAT CAN SHARE WITH US.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCOPE
OF WORK.
IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS HIRING A
COMPUTER TECH WHO IS AN
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR TO DO
SOME WORK FOR AN HOUR
OR TWO.
DOES THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL THEN
HAVE TO HAVE A CREDIT
FOR AN HOUR'S WORK
I'M LOOKING AT THE SIZE OF THE
EMPLOYER AND THE
SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT'S DONE.
I WANTED TO FLAG THOSE TWO
ISSUES AS SOMETHING I
WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING A
LITTLE MORE
DISCUSSION ABOUT.
>> YEAH.
THIS LAW WOULD REQUIRE A
PROSECUTE CONTRACT PRECONTRACT
DISCLOSURE IF
THERE WAS AN ONGOIN
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
BUSINESS AND THE COMPUTER TECH
THERE WOULDN'T NEED
TO BE A NEW PROSECUTE CONTRACT
DISCLOSURE ISSUED
EACH TIME.
THERE COULD BE AN APPROACH OF
THINK ABOUT IT LIKE A
MASTER PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE
PROVIDED FOR THE FIRST
TIME THAT THEY WORKED TOGETHER.
THEN IF THEY CONTINUE TO WORK
TOGETHER, COULD YOU DO
ANOTHER TWO HOURS, THREE HOURS
IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE
AS THE SMALL BUSINESS WRITING
THREE HOURS OF WORK AT
$50A UNHOUR, PAYMENT WILL BE AT
THE -- AND THERE
WOULDN'T NEED TO BE A FULL SALE
REISSUE OF THE
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURE.
IT COULD JUST BE FOR THE PARTS
THAT CHANGED.
>> CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE
LSAC RECOMMENDATIONS
WERE ON THIS TOPIC
>> LSAC RECOMMENDATIONS WERE
FOR TWO TYPES OF
HIRING GROUPS.
ONE WAS FOR -- EMPLOYEES.
>> MANY SOARE.
YOU CUT OUT FOR A SECOND.
ONE -- THERE WERE TWO TYPES.
ONE WAS FOR BUSINESS THAT HAD
ONE OR MORE EMPLOYEES
AND THEN THE OTHER WAS FOR A
BUSINESS THAT HAD FIVE
OR MORE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS
THAT THEY HIRED ON
THE CONSISTENT BASIS.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, THOSE
KINDS OF
RECOMMENDATIONS IS THAT IT MAY
úNOT BE IMMEDIATELY
OBVIOUS TO THE CONTRACTOR OR
EVEN TO THE HIRING
GROUP FOR THE -- THE SECOND
DEFINITION ON WHETHER OR
NOT THEY COVERED.
WHETHER OR NOT THAT HIRING AND
HIRING GROUP AS
ABHIJIT EMPLOYEE.
THEY MAY NOT KNOW ESPECIALLY IF
THEY ARE WORKING AT
THE PLACE OF BUSINESS THEY
WOULDN'T KNOW HOW MANY
CONTRACTORS THEY HIRE
CONSISTENTLY.
UNLESS IT'S A VERY LARGE
CONTRACTOR LIKE A LARGE --
LIKE A FOOD DELIVERY BUSINESS.
IF THAT SITUATION CONTRACTORS
WILL KNOW, YES, THIS
BUSINESS IS COVERED.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IF
THERE WILL -- WERE TO BE
A DIFFERENT THRESHOLD FOR
COVERAGE OF HIRING GROUPS
IS HOW WOULD A CONTRACTOR KNOW
THAT BUSINESS IS
COVERED
.
>> THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, WE HAD
-- FOR THE PREVIOUS
MEETING WE HAD PREPARED LIKE A
DECISION AGENDA TO
BACK THROUGH THE DIFFERENT
OPTIONS.
SINCE WE DID NOT HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT THE
LAST MEETING WE HAVE TRIED TO
ANSWER SOME OF THESE
QUESTIONS.
BECAUSE THE RIGHTS CONTAINED IN
THIS BILL IN ORDER
TO -- FOR THEM TO BE EXERCISED,
THE CONTRACT WORKERS
HAVE TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT
THEY ARE ELIGIBLE.
WE FELT THAT -- I FELT -- AND I
GAVE KARINA SOME
DIRECTION.
I'M OPEN TO TALK ABOUT
DIFFERENT CONTOURS WE MAY PUT
ON THIS ELIGIBILITY.
WE FELT THAT IT WAS JUST
UNWORKABLE TO HAVE A
STANDARD THAT MAY BE UNKNOWABLE
BY THE CONTRACT
WORKER BE THE STANDARD FOR
WHICH THE APPLICATION OF
THE RIGHTS BE BASED ON.
I THINK THAT'S -- POTENTIALLY
IS A SEPARATE ISSUE
THAN THE ISSUE THAT YOU ARE
RAISING CHAIR MOSQUEDA
THAT I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU
ON AS IT RELATES TO
SORT OF MORE OF THE ONE OFF
ENGAGEMENTS THAT MAY
HAPPEN AND HOW WE WANT TO
ADDRESS THAT THROUGH THESE
OPTIONS OR OTHER OPTIONS THAT
WE MAY CONSIDER.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
AND KA RINA FOR
THAT.
LET'S DO THAT.
>> AN IDEA THAT WAS MENTIONED
IN THE PREVIOUS MEMO
WAS A VALUE OF SERVICES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD
ADDRESS ALL THE
SITUATIONS THAT YOU ARE
MENTIONING.
IF THERE WAS A THRESHOLD VALUE,
THE $600 WHETHER
PERRIN STANCE OR OVER THE
COURSE OF THE YEAR THAT
COULD BE ONE WAY TO LIMIT THE
ONE OFFS THAT IF IT'S
A -- EXPENSE EVERY SITUATION IT
MAY NOT ADDRESS THAT
PARTICULAR AGREEMENT BUT THAT
IS ONE IDEA.
>> OKAY.
WE WILL DO SOME FOLLOW UP
CONVERSATIONS THEN ABOUT
EMPLOYEE THRESHOLD.
PERHAPS THE SCOPE OR DURATION
OF THE WORK OR, AND,
THE VALUE OF THAT WORK IF --
OKAY.
SOUNDS GOOD.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I ANDLY BE INTERESTED AS
WELL IN RUNNING SOME
SITUATIONS BY -- COLUMBIA LEGAL
SERVICE WHO ARE SORT
OF MY GO TOOS ON INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR ISSUES THAT
WE HAVE WORKED ON IN THE PAST
AT THE STATE LEVEL.
THEY HAD HUGE WINS THIS YEAR.
TRIPLE DAMAGES, YEAH.
IT'S -- IT'S GREAT TO HAVE
THESE EARLY CONVERSATIONS
APPRECIATE THAT.
I DID WANT TO FLAG THOSE TWO
COBB CERTAINS AND THANK
YOU FOR ADDING IN THE VALUE OF
SERVICES AS ANOTHER
OPTION TO LOOK AT.
>> PLEASE GO HEAD.
>> THE THIRD ISSUE IS
EFFECTIVE DATES.
THE CURRENT EFFECTIVE DATE IS
MARCH FIRST OF NEXT
YEAR WHICH WOULD GIVE OFFICE
LABOR STANDARDS NINE
MONTHS TO PREPARE FOR
IMPLEMENTATION.
THEY MEAN OFFICE OF LABOR
STANDrdS INDICATED A
FULL YEAR WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR
THEM.
SINCE THE LEGISLATION REQUIRES
OLS TO PREPARE A
NUMBER OF MODEL AND TEMPLATE
DOCUMENTS INCLUDING
TRANSLATION AND OF COURSE
OUTREACH IS SO IMPORTANT
FOR THIS KIND OF LEGISLATION AS
WELL.
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS THAT
THE EFFECTIVE DATE
COULD BE CHANGED TO ONE HEAR TO
ALLOW FOR MORE
IMPLEMENTATION.
IT COULD NOT IDENTITY A DATE BY
SAY ONE YEAR
PASSAGE.
IT DOES PROVIDE NINE MONTHS AND
THAT WOULD BE MARCH
FIRST.
ANY COMMENTS ON THAT
ALL RIGHT.
AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, MY
UNDERSTANDING.
THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL
IS MAY 10th.
IS THAT RIGHT
IS IT MAY 17th
>> I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE
TO AIM FOR MAY 10th
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE
MAY NEED TO MAKE
ADJUSTMENTS.
>> UNDERSTOOD.
AND THEN THE NEXT DISCUSSION OF
THE LEGISLATION
WOULD BE MAY 18th WHICH IS THE
NEXT FINANCE AND
HOUSING COMMITTEE.
OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND A COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
FLEXIBILITY IN THE LAST
MEETING.
I HOPE THAT ALLOWED FOR SOME
EXTRA TIME TO COME ONE
SOME OF THESE ALTERNATIVE
SOLUTIONS THAT YOU HAVE
BEEN PROPOSING TODAY.
PROBABLY NOT THE IDEAL BUT
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
FLEXIBILITY.
THE ONE THING ON TIMELINE BARE
THAT I DIDN'T SEE
IS -- IN THE PRESENTATION -- I
CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT
SLIDE IT WAS.
.
>> THERE WAS A COMMITMENT TO
CONTINUING TO DO WORK.
.
>> AND TO CONSIDER THIS BEFORE
THE BUDGET
D DELIBERATATIONS.
WE KNOW THIS IS AN ONGOING
DESIRE.
[CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING]
MINIMUM CAN'T INFLATION
COMPENSATION IN THIS BILL
BECAUSE IT WAS DETERMINED THAT
NOT ONLY IS IT OUT OF SCOPE
WITH THIS BILL BUT THE
UNIVERSES OF PEOPLE COVERED
UNDER THIS BILL VERSUS THE
MINIMUM COMPENSATION CAMPAIGN
REQUIREMENTS OR REQUESTS WOULD
BE DIFFERENT UNIVERSES OF
CONTRACT WORKERS AND THEY
COULDN'T BOTH BE COVERED UNDER
THIS BILL SO, YEAH, WE WORK
WITH THEM ON THE LANGUAGE THAT
YOU SEE INCLUDED IN THE BILL
ITSELF AND HOPE THAT, WITH
@PASSAGE, WE CAN USE THIS
LANGUAGE TO HOLD OURSELVES
ACCOUNTABLE.
>> RIGHT AND I HAVE TALKED
ABOUT IT AND FOLKS KNOW OUR
COMMITTEE AFTER FINANCE AND
HOUSING THAT USUALLY LABOR
ISSUES ARE PRETTY PACKED THIS
SUMMER WITH ALL OF THE
DISCUSSIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE THE DOMESTIC
WORKER STANDARD BOARD
RECOMMENDATIONS YOU HEARD
COMING UP.
WE HAD SOME LABOR STANDARDS
LEGISLATION THAT WAS TEED UP
FOR DISCUSSION FOR THIS SUMMER
AS WELL THAT I THINK WE WILL
PUT ON HOLD FOR RIGHT NOW SO
I'M ALWAYS EXCITED ABOUT NEW
LABOR STANDARDS DISCUSSIONS BUT
WOULD LOVE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT
MORE OR WORK WITH YOU, CHAIR
MOSQUEDA IF THERE ARE OTHER
DISCUSSIONS YOU'RE HAVING ABOUT
@THE TIMELINE OR POSSIBLE
PROCESS BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY
HAVE A FULL PLATE HERE SO IS
THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD
LIKE TO ADD FOR CONTEXT?
>> JUST THAT IN WASHINGTON,
THEY INCLUDED IN THEIR
RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE AN
ASSUMPTION THAT THE LEGISLATION
WOULD COME TO YOUR COMMITTEE,
WE WOULD STRIP THAT LEG WHICH
ARE BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS
WITH YOU.
CHAIR MOSQUEDA, WE WOULD NEED
TO FIND ANOTHER HOME,
POTENTIALLY, MY COMMITTEE FOR
THOSE SESSIONS.
APPRECIATE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS ON THIS?
OR QUESTIONS?
>> THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD
HAVE, SINCE THERE ARE A NUMBER
OF CHANGES, ESPECIALLY RELATED
TO DOMESTIC WORKERS COMPONENT IS
, IS THERE A DRAFT DEADLINE
THAT YOU ARE HOPING TO MEET,
KARINA?
I KNOW WE SAID THE GOAL OF
INTRODUCTION BY MAY 10th BUT I
WOULD LOVE TO TRY TO SHARE SOME
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WITH
THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS I
MENTIONED AND I AM SURE THAT
FOLKS MAY WANT TO WEIGH IN AS
WELL.
IS THERE A DEADLINE THAT WE ARE
HOPING TO HAVE REVISED DRAFT
AVAILABLE FOR OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT?
>> OKAY, WELL I AM HEARING TWO
THINGS SO ONE IS THE DEADLINE
TO LET ME KNOW ABOUT PROPOSED
CHANGES THAT I WOULD HEAR ABOUT
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HERBNOLD.
I WOULD NEED FOR A MAY 10th
INTRODUCTION AND WOULD NEED TO
KNOW ABOUT THAT BY THE END OF
TODAY.
WITH THE DRAFT, IN ORDER FOR
THOSE CHANGES TO BE MADE AND [
INDISCERNIBLEÃMUFFLED ] IF
YOU ARE SEEKING A DRAFT THAT
REMOVES DOMESTIC WORKERS, I CAN
PROVIDE THAT IN AN HOUR OR SO
BECAUSE THAT IS JUST A MATTER
OF REMOVING LANGUAGE AND I CAN
GIVE YOU A CHANGES VERSION OR
CLEAN VERSION OR BOTH.
AS FAR AS REVISIONS, I WOULD
NEED IT BY THE END OF THE DAY
AND OF COURSE IT WOULD STILL BE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE TO AMEND
THE LEGISLATION ON MAY 18th AND
, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY THINGS
MIGHT HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND
THE 18th, MAYBE A SUBSTITUTE
BUILT THAT IS FOR COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBNOLD TO LET ME
KNOW.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD WHAT
IT BE EXPECT ACCEPTABLE FOR
YOU AS THE PLAN SPONSOR IF I
REQUESTED A CLEAN VERSION THAT
REMOVES THE DOMESTIC WORKERS
LANGUAGE SO THAT I COULD SEE
THAT AS ONE AND WE COULD DO
SOME INITIAL REVIEW OF THAT?
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I ACTUALLY, THROUGH ALICE,
REQUESTED THAT LAST NIGHT SO
THAT IS IN THE WORKS.
AND I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY
CLEAR WE ARE WORKING, DRIVING
TOWARDS THE NEXT COMMITTEE
MEETING, YOUR NEXT COMMITTEE
MEETING BASED ON MY
UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR DEMANDS
ON THE AGENDA.
IF YOU ARE NOT PLANNING -- IF
MAY 18th IS NOT THE ONLY OTHER
COMMITTEE MEETING THAT YOU HAVE
AVAILABLE BUT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE
A SUBSEQUENT COMMITTEE MEETING
IN JUNE WHICH I DID NOT THINK
WAS THE CASE, THAT WOULD ALL
AFFECT THE TIMELINE AND IN A
WAY THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE
TIME.
BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION
THAT MAY 18th WAS OUR LAST
SHOT.
>> WE DO HAVE A TIME CRUNCH IN
THOSE JUNE MEETINGS BUT
APPRECIATE THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK
SINCE WE GOT THE BENEFIT OF OUR
COUNSEL PRESENT WITH US AS WELL
AS THE STAFF SO IF THERE WERE
INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL ON
THE 10th IS A POST OF THE 17th,
WE COULD STILL HEAR THAT
MEETING ON THE 18th IN LINE
WITH THE APPROPRIATE PROTOCOLS.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> THERE WOULD BE LESS TIME TO
LOOK AT IT BEFORE THE MEETING
BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY AN
OPTION.
>> OKAY, GREAT.
WELL, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT
TO SLOW DOWN THE DISCUSSIONS.
I THINK THAT GETTING THAT
STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK IS
IMPORTANT BUT I THINK THAT
HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME,
ESPECIALLY FOR THE REVIEW OF
THE INITIAL DRAFT BEFORE
INTRODUCTION, IF THAT IS YOUR
DESIRE, TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH
FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE, THAT
@COULD GET US ANOTHER WEEK,
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD AND WE
COULD KEEP HAVING
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THOSE JUNE
DATES AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
IF JUNE GETS APPROPRIATELY
AMENDED PRIOR TO INTRODUCTION,
LET ME KNOW IF THERE IS
FEEDBACK YOU WANT TO
INCORPORATE DURING
DELIBERATIONS.
AND WE WILL MAKE TIME FOR THAT
AS WELL.
>> OKAY SO I'M HEARING POSSIBLE
INTRODUCTION THEN ON THE 17th
AND THANK YOU, KARINA FOR ALL
THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE BUT ALSO
STRIPPING OUT THE LANGUAGE ON
DOMESTIC WORKERS SO WE CAN
SHARE AROUND THE MORE RECENT
DRAFT.
THE THINGS THAT I WILL FLAG
THAT I DON'T THINK I WILL HAVE
THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK
ON TODAY WHICH IS WHY I'M
HOPING THAT WITH AN EXTRA WEEK
AT LEAST WE WILL HAVE A BETTER
CHANCE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS TO
SPONSOR AND OTHERS AROUND THE
SIZE OF THE EMPLOYER, I'M
SORRY, THE SIZE OF THE EMPLOYER
OR HIRING ENTITY, THE SIZE AND
SCOPE OF THE WORK BEING DONE BY
THE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, AND
POTENTIALLY THE VALUE OF THE
SERVICES.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT
THAT SEPTEMBER DATE BUT SINCE
IT MIGHT NOT BE COMING TO MY
COMMITTEE, THAT'S GOOD FOR ME TO
SHELF.
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF WORK
GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS
SLIDE UP.
ANY ADDITIONAL --?
>> I JUST REALLY WANT TO URGE US
TO OFF-LINE, I'M NOT SURE THIS
IS THE PROPER VENUE TO HAVE
THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT SORT OF
THE FINER DETAILS OF THE
PROCESS AND INTRODUCTION AND
PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE BUT I
WOULD ASK, I KNOW THAT COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD'S STAFF IS
COMMUNICATING WITH MY OFFICE AS
IT RELATES TO THOSE ISSUES BUT
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE
ARE BALANCING SEVERAL IMPORTANT
INTERESTS AS WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT THESE DEADLINES FOR
INTRODUCTION AND WHATNOT.
THERE IS OBVIOUSLY THE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT COMMITTEE
MEMBERS HAVE ENOUGH TIME WITH
WHATEVER DRAFT BILL IS
INTRODUCED BUT ALSO, I REALLY
VALUE THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING
SURE THAT LEGISLATION IS
PUBLISHED AND VIEWABLE BY THE
PUBLIC.
WITH ENOUGH TIME FOR THEM TO
ALSO BE ENGAGED WITH PUBLIC
COMMENT AND THE ONGOING
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS SO I DON'T
WANT FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED
IN THE SUBJECT IN TERMS OF
STAKEHOLDERS TO FEEL LIKE THEY
ARE JAMMED AND I ALSO DON'T
WANT COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND
OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS TO FEEL
LIKE THEY ARE GETTING JAMMED AS
A RESULT OF A TIMELINE OR A
DEADLINE THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING
HERE SO I LIKE TO JUST HAVE THE
BENEFIT OF A LITTLE MORE TIME
BEFORE WE COMMIT ON THE RECORD
TO SPECIFIC DEADLINES.
ON WHAT AN APPROPRIATE SEQUENCE
OF INTRODUCTION AND CELEBRATION
AND CONSIDERATION COULD BE.
I WILL FLAG THAT I THINK THE
SEPTEMBER INTENT LANGUAGE HERE
IS RATHER AMBITIOUS AND OVERLY
OPTIMISTIC AND I UNDERSTAND WHY
IT IS THERE.
I APPRECIATE THE ENERGY AND THE
INTENT AS TO WHY IT IS THERE.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE REALLY
TRANSPARENT THAT I AM CONCERNED
THAT IT WILL -- IT COULD SORT
OF RESULTING UNDUE PRESSURE ON
THE SYSTEM AND IN TERMS OF
GETTING THIS LEGISLATION HEARD
IN A COMMITTEE THAT IS
OTHERWISE VERY CROWDED. YOU
KNOW, ALL DUE RESPECT, COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD, YOUR COMMITTEE
IS ALSO VERY CROWDED, VERY BUSY
WITH OFTENTIMES FOUR HOUR
HEARINGS SO I'M A LITTLE WORRIED
THAT WE ARE BEING OVERLY
AMBITIOUS AND AS A RESULT,
INADVERTENTLY COMMUNICATING TO
STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE ARE
CAPABLE OF ACTUALLY GETTING
THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE IN
THE SUMMER AND DON'T WANT TO
CREATE ANY UNDUE EXPECTATIONS
AMONGST OUR PARTNERS IN
COMMITTEE AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
SO I JUST WANT US TO BE VERY
CAUTIOUS ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF
COMMITMENTS NOW. MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THERE IS A LOT
OF STAKEHOLDER -- THAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN AND WE HAVE A VERY FULL
AGENDA SO I JUST WANT TO BE
SORT OF REALISTIC WITH OUR
CAPACITY REALITIES AS IT
RELATES TO THAT PARTICULAR
TIMELINE AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THOSE POINTS UNDERSCORE THE
CONCERNS I HAVE AS WELL.
SO I THINK IT IS A POINT WELL
TAKEN.
SPEAKING OF UNDUE PRESSURE, I
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT
PROVIDING UNDUE PRESSURE FOR
THIS LEGISLATION ESPECIALLY THE
SCOPE AND NATURE OF IT FOR
DOMESTIC WORKERS, HAVING
STAKEHOLDER CONVERSATIONS THAT
ARE NECESSARY AND THE ONES I
WANT TO HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE
ONES THAT I KNOW FOLKS WANT TO
HAVE ON THEIR OWN AND AMONGST
COUNCILMEMBERS IN OUR
DELIBERATIONS.
RIGHT NOW, I WILL SAY WE DO
HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN
MAKING SURE THIS THAT'S RIGHT
AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH
OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS TO OFFER
TIME IN OUR JUNE MEETINGS IF
NECESSARY.
SO FOR SOME THAT FEEL THERE IS
A PRESSURE TO MOVE THIS ON MAY
18th, NOTED IN THE SLIDE.
I KNOW THERE WAS AN INITIAL
TIMELINE BUT WE ALSO DID NOT
HAVE A CHANCE TO WALK THROUGH
THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING SO
THAT MAKES SOME SENSE AND WE
WILL KEEP THE CONVERSATIONS
GOING TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS
RIGHT AND THAT THERE IS NOT
UNDUE PRESSURE WHICH IS DUE TO
-- COMMITTEE DATES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBERS AND THANK YOU
FOR YOUR COMMENTS JUST NOW.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, IS
THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD
LIKE TO ADD?
>> KARINA, IS THERE ANYTHING
ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
>> NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER
ADDITIONAL COUNSEL COMMENTS.
>> I WANT TO THANK YOU, KARINA
FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN SPENDING A
LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH THESE
DETAILS AND WILL CONTINUE TO
DO THAT WITH US SO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR RESEARCH AND THE
DELIBERATIVE PROCESS YOU HAVE
GONE THROUGH TO PROVIDE THIS
DRAFT FOR US AND COMMITTEE
MEMBER STRAUSS DOUBLES COUNCIL
@MEMBER HERBOLD, AS WE SEEK FOR
ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDER
DISCUSSION.
WONDERFUL.
TO BE CONTINUED AND NO UNDUE
PRESSURE FOR TIMELINE SO MORE
TO COME.
THANK YOU, KARINA.
LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR LAST ITEM
OF BUSINESS.
THAT IS THE SOUND TRANSIT
PROPERTY TRANSFER ITEM NUMBER
NINE.
MADAM CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE
READ ITEM NUMBER NINE INTO THE
RECORD?
>> ITEM NUMBER NINE, CONSUL --
129957.
--AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING (OH);
AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF A
TRANSFER OF REAL PROPERTY IN
SOUTHEAST SEATTLE FOR THE
PURPOSE OF DEVELOPMENT OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER
RELATED USES, AND FOR GENERAL
MUNICIPAL PURPOSES; PLACING THE
PROPERTY UNDER THE JURISDICTION
OF OH; AND RATIFYING AND
CONFIRMING CERTAIN PRIOR ACTS.
>> MADAM CLERK, IT WAS A LITTLE
HARD TO HEAR YOU BUT I KNOW
FOLKS HAVE THE AGENDA IN FRONT
OF THEM.
THIS IS THE SOUND TRANSIT
PROPERTY TRANSFER, COUNSEL BILL
120058 RECORD.
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
HERE WITH US.
PLEASE SEE DIRECTOR ALVARADO
FROM THE OFFICE OF HOUSING,
ERICA MALONE ALSO FROM THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING, -- RED CLIFF
FROM --, THANK YOU ALL FOR
BEING WITH US HERE TODAY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS ITEM IS
FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE
PROPERTY TRANSFER FROM SOUND
TRANSIT TO THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING.
IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO
HEAR ABOUT THIS FROM A WAY TO
JUST, IT IS AN EXCITING
OPPORTUNITY, NOTABLE IN A
NUMBER OF WAYS AND I DON'T WANT
TO TOTALLY STEAL FROM THE
PRESENTATION ABOUT TO HAPPEN SO
I WILL NAME A FEW.
THIS IS TRULY ABOUT FOLLOWING
THROUGH ON OUR CITY'S EFFORT TO
NOT LET GO OF PUBLIC LAND THAT
CAN BE USED FOR PUBLIC GOOD SO
THE CITY IS ACCEPTING THIS LAND
AT NO COST.
THAT LAND IS LOCATED IN THE
SOUTH LAND IN RESPONSE TO
COMMUNITY FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND THE SOUTH LAND WILL
BE BILLED FOR PURCHASE MEANING
WE ARE PROVIDING ACCESSIBLE
HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR
SEATTLE RESIDENTS.
THREE REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS
TO LIFT UP AND PART OF OUR LONG-
STANDING COMMITMENTS TO NOT
ONLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT
ARE LEADING TO DISPLACEMENT BUT
ALSO LEADING TO MORE HOME
OPPORTUNITIES, THAT HELPS
POVERTY ISSUES AND REDUCES LONG
COMMUTES THAT ARE BAD FOR OUR
HEALTH AND THE PLANET'S HEALTH
BY PUSHING MORE PEOPLE OUT OF
THE CITY SO THIS IS REALLY
EXCITING AND IT COST.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO
TRACY RATCLIFF TO WALK US
THROUGH INITIAL COMMENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU, TRACY
RATCLIFF HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB
OF LAYING THE FOUNDATION FOR A
WAY TO JUST'S HESITATION AND I
WILL LET THEM GO THROUGH WITH
THAT PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT
DOUBLEÃVERY EXCITING
PROPOSITION HERE SO VERY
EXCITED TO HELP EMILY AND HER
CREW GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATION
FOR YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO PRESENT
TODAY.
THIS IS LEGISLATION THAT WILL
FORMALLY ACCEPT SURPLUS
PROPERTY FROM SOUND TRANSIT,
PUT IT IN THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING'S JURISDICTION SO THAT
WE CAN TURN IT INTO PERMANENTLY
AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP IN THE
RANIER VALLEY.
THE VOTE WILL MARK REALLY THE
END OF A SEVERAL YEAR PROCESS
AND THIS PROCESS INCLUDED
SIGNIFICANT COORDINATION
BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF HOUSING
AND SOUND TRANSIT. THANKS VERY
MUCH TO THE SOUND TRANSIT TEAM
D STAFF INCLUDED A ENTIRE
TRINITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TO
GET TO THIS POINT.
IT INCLUDED A FORMAL PETITION
TO THE FTA TO USE A LITTLE-
KNOWN FEDERAL REGULATION THAT
ALLOWS US TO ACCEPT THESE
PROPERTIES AT NO COST FOR
PUBLIC USE.
IT INCLUDED IDENTIFICATION BY
THE CITY OF SIGNIFICANT
RESOURCES TO USE TO INVEST IN
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE
PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE HOMES
AND IT INCLUDED A FORMAL VOTE
BY THE SOUND TRANSIT BOARD TO
SEND THESE PROPERTIES TO US.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT MARKS
THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING
REALLY BIG AND THAT IS THAT WE
ARE ARE GOING TO CONVERT VACANT
, FENCED OFF LAND IN THE RANIER
VALLEY TO COMMUNITY USE.
WE ARE GOING TO DO SO IN A
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS
EXPERIENCING DISPLACEMENT AND TO
FINANCE AND HOUSING COMMITTEE
-- CHAIR MOSQUEDA THIS POINT,
WE ARE GOING TO BRING THE
BENEFIT OF HOME OWNERSHIP TO A
NUMBER OF FAMILIES AND I HOPE
IN DOING SO WE CAN HELP PROVE
DISPLACEMENT IS NOT AN
INEVITABLE SO LONG AS WE MAKE
INTENTIONAL PROACTIVE
INVESTMENTS IN EQUITABLE
PERMANENT SOLUTIONS AND SO I'M
GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ERICA
MALONE WHO IS OUR HOMEOWNERSHIP
SPECIALIST AT THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING AND WHO WE ARE REALLY
LUCKY TO HAVE BECAUSE SHE IS AN
EXPERT IN PERMANENTLY
AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP TO
WALK US THROUGH THIS
PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU, EMILY.
THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS AND
TRACY.
LET'S SEE IF MY -- IF I CAN
ADVANCE THE SLIDES.
YOU KNOW, IT WORKED BEFORE WHEN
WE TRIED THIS.
ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
APOLOGIES.
>> NO APOLOGY NECESSARY.
>> OH.
>> WE ARE ALL USED TO DO THIS
NOW.
>> AND THERE WE GO.
CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT?
>> YES, YOUR ENTIRE SCREEN IS
SHOWING SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO
HIT THAT GREEN BUTTON TO MAKE
IT MAXIMUM.
>> THANK YOU.
GREAT.
GREAT TIP. ARE WE GOOD?
>> YES.
>> GOT MY GOODNESS.
THAT WAS -- EMILY REALLY SET IT
UP WELL. IN CALLS FROM TRINITY,
FOR NOT ONLY ACTIVATING SURPLUS
SITES AND FOR MORE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE
HOMEOWNERSHIP IS WHAT WE ARE
PROPOSING ON THESE SITES.
BUILDING ON A REALLY SUCCESSFUL
PARTNERSHIP WITH SOUND TRANSIT,
SEVERAL LARGE-SCALE MULTIFAMILY
DEVELOPMENTS, AS YOU ALL KNOW
ABOUT ON CAPITOL HILL, IT GOES
ABOUT BUILDING ON THAT
RELATIONSHIP. WE COLLABORATIVELY
BROUGHT FORTH THIS OTHER PATH
THAT WE WILL UTILIZE SOME OF
THE SMALLER SITES FOR
AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP
OPPORTUNITIES.
THIS IS IN LINE WITH SOUND
TRANSIT'S TRANSIT ORIENTED
GOALS, OBVIOUSLY, RCW 81 112-
350, THE 8080 RULE AND ADVANCES
THE CITY SCHOOLS OF PROVIDING
MORE AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP
AND AS EMILY MENTIONED,
SPECIFICALLY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD
UNDER REALLY SIGNIFICANT
JUSTIFICATION PRESSURE AND FOR
COMMUNITY RESIDENTSWHO ARE
UNDER THREAT OF DISPLACEMENT.
>> ERICA, DO YOU WANT TO, FOR
THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC,
REMIND US THE 8080 80 RULE
WHICH WE MODELED OUR POLICY OFF
AS WELL?
>> YES.
SO 80% OF THE SURPLUS PROPERTY
THAT IS IDENTIFIED BY SOUND
TRANSIT MUST GO TO TENANTS OR
HOMEOWNERS WITH INCOMES OF 80%
OR BELOW OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
THAT IS TWO OF THE 80s.
THAT ALWAYS STUMPS ME.
>> SO THE GENERAL CONCEPT IS
THAT SOUND TRANSIT NEEDS TO
OFFER PROPERTIES AT LEAST 80%
OF THEIR COMPANIES TO ELIGIBLE
ENTITIES TO CREATE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND WE HAVE REALLY
ESTABLISHED AS ERICA MENTIONED,
A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO
MAKE SURE THAT WHERE THEY ARE
ABLE TO SURPLUS PROPERTY AND
AVAIL IT, WE HAVE THE RESOURCES
AND THE ABILITY TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
YES.
SO AS EMILY MENTIONED EARLIER,
TOO, THE PROPERTY BEING
TRANSFERRED AT NO COST REALLY
IS AN EXCITING PIECE OF THIS.
THERE ARE TWO LEVELS OF DISCOUNT
. SOUND TRANSIT AGREEING TO
FORGO THE ONE MILLION-DOLLAR --
EXCUSE ME, THE ROUGHLY $12
MILLION PROPERTY VALUE AS WELL
AS THE FEDERAL TRANSIT
ADMINISTRATION THAT IS WILLING
TO FORGO THEIR INTEREST OF
ROUGHLY $4 MILLION.
BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO THE
WEEDS, WHERE ARE THESE
PROPERTIES? THERE IS A PROPERTY
LIST IN THE LEGISLATION BUT
SORT OF A BIRDS EYE VIEW, MOUNT
BAKER STATION IN THE UPPER LEFT
THERE AND JUST OUTSIDE OF THE
SLIDE THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE
IS THE RANIER BEACH STATION SO
CLUSTERED AROUND COLUMBIA CITY
STATION NEAR OUR CELLO AND
RANIER BEACH STATION.
THE SITES RANGE FROM 2500
SQUARE FEET TO 10,000 SQUARE
FEET.
THEY ARE ALL FLAT.
THEY ARE FENCED.
THEY ARE GRAVELED.
YOU HAVE SEEN THEM.
THEY WILL BE ACTIVATED SOON AND
BE FULFILLING COMMUNITY'S VISION
FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP AND COMMUNITY
NEEDS.
SO A QUICK REPACK RECAP AS TO
WHERE WE HAVE COME TO DATE.
IDENTIFICATION OF THE
PROPERTIES, AS EMILY MENTIONED,
TO A FAIRLY ROBUST, EQUITABLE
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TO
TAKE PLACE THE SUMMER OF 2019.
FDA APPROVAL TO ALLOW THE
TRANSFER AT NO COST, HAPPENING
IN SEPTEMBER.
TRANSIT APPROVED BOARD APPROVAL
WHICH WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR.
AS WELL AS FOR THE TOD STAFF,
THEIR PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN
INCREDIBLE.
TRANSFER AGREEMENT WAS EXECUTED
IN APRIL AND NOW IS TIME TO
ACCEPT THE PROPERTIES.
PRIMARY TERMS OF THE TRANSFER
AGREEMENT, WE WILL BE DOING
ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE.
AND THERE ARE CERTAIN TIMELINES
AND MILESTONES IN TERMS OF WHEN
REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS NEED TO
BE PUBLISHED.
THERE WILL BE NO FEWER THAN 100
HOMES DEVELOPED.
THERE IS LIKELY THE POTENTIAL
FOR MORE.
WE ARE HELPFUL THAT COULD BE
UPWARDS OF 150 OR MORE.
BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE SPACE FOR
COMMUNITY TO BE ENGAGED IN
TERMS OF OUR THEY BIGGER UNITS,
WHICH WOULD RESULT POTENTIALLY
IN FEWER UNITS AND THAT IT IS
NOT JUST MAYBE A UNIT COUNT BUT
A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SERVED COUNT
THAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE AS A
MEASURE.
SO JUST A QUICK REMINDER AND I
KNOW YOU ALL KNOW THIS.
WHAT WE MEAN BY PERMANENTLY
AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP IS
THAT HOMES ARE AFFORDABLE NOT
JUST TO THE FIRST HOMEBUYER.
ALTHOUGH THEY ARE AFFORDABLE TO
THE FIRST HOMEBUYER, AND THEN
WHEN OR IF THAT HOME OWNER
CHOOSES TO SELL, THEY DO SO AT
A PRICE THIS IS AFFORDABLE TO
THE NEXT HOMEBUYER.
TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE
EQUITY GROWTH NOT JUST FOR THE
FIRST HOMEBUYER BUT FOR
GENERATIONS TO COME SO WE THINK
THIS IS A SUPERMODEL GENERALLY
AND PARTICULARLY IN A PLACE
WHERE DISPLACEMENT IS HAPPENING
SO QUICKLY, THIS WILL ALLOW FOR
HOMES TO ALWAYS BE AFFORDABLE
FOR RESIDENTS OF THE -- VALLEY.
A NOTE, THEN, IN REGARD TO PAST
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL AS
OUR FUTURE ENGAGEMENT GOING
FORWARD, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AS
YOU NOTICED, AND I FORGOT TO
MENTION, WITHIN THREE MONTHS OF
THE TRANSFER BEING MADE, WE
WILL NEED TO RELEASE AN RF BE.
THAT RFP PROCESS WILL BE TO
ESSENTIALLY ENACT THE VISION OF
COMMUNITY AS ENGAGED WITH --
SOLUTIONS NETWORK WHICH IS A
NATIONAL CONSULTANT EXPERT AND
COMMUNITY EXPERT AS WELL AS
PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE
HOMEOWNERSHIP AND PUGET SOUND
SAGE WHICH IS A LOCAL
ORGANIZATION THAT HAS DEEP
ROOTS AND GREAT TRUST IN
COMMUNITY.
AND WE ARE REALLY LOOKING
FORWARD TO THIS PROCESS.
THIS WILL DETERMINE NOT ONLY
WHAT GETS BUILT BUT BY HOME AND
FOR WHOM.
>> SO BROADLY, THE OVERALL
INITIATIVE VISION IS BOTH VERY
SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF PRODUCTION
AND REALLY QUITE BROAD IN TERMS
OF IMPACT.
THERE IS, OF COURSE, A
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OF THIS WORK
IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF HOMES
THAT WILL BE CREATED FOR
HOMEBUYERS WITHIN THE VALLEY
BUT WE ALSO SEE THIS AS SORT OF
THE FOUNDATION FOR
ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY BUILDING
TO BE ABLE TO LAUNCH EVENT
BIGGER AND BETTER INITIATIVES
GOING FORWARD.
AND WITHIN THE REALM OF
COMMUNITY LAND OWNERSHIP AND
AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP.
SO TODAY, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE
ASKING OF YOU.
TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE
LEGISLATIVE ACTION THAT WILL
ACCEPT THE PROPERTY AT NO COST.
THIS WOULD THEN SATISFY THE
CITY CHARTER REQUIREMENTS AND
WE LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING
WITH YOU, WORKING WITH YOU
GOING FORWARD IN ENACTING THE
COMMUNITY VISION IN THIS
INITIATIVE.
>> AND IF EYE MITE, A FEW
PIECES OF CLARIFICATION JUST
ABOUT THIS LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
YOU HAVE SEEN US BEFORE AS WE
HAVE TURNED PUBLIC SITES INTO
RENTAL HOUSING AND OWNERSHIP.
IN ALL OF THOSE CASES, BEFORE
WE DO THE ACTUAL DISPOSITION OF
THE PROPERTY, WE COME TO YOU
WITH FARMER DETAIL ABOUT HOW WE
PROCEEDED WITH THE RFP, HOW WE
SELECTED THE DEVELOPER AND
ENSURING THE ACTUAL OUTLINE AND
REQUIREMENTS OF THAT
DISPOSITION.
THIS IS NOT ALLOWING US TO GO
AS FAR AS A DISPOSITION.
IT IS MERELY DOING THE
ACCEPTANCE UPON WHICH WE WILL
LAUNCH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
PROCESS AND THEN BE BACK TO
COUNSEL BEFORE ANY DISPOSITION
IS MADE SO THIS IS REALLY DOING
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN OF
WHAT SOUND TRANSIT BOARD
ALREADY VOTED TO DO WHICH IS
SEND THE PROPERTY TO US.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT LAND
WITH US, LAUNCH COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT AND KEEP YOU POSTED
AS WE MOVE TOWARDS AN RFP BASED
ON WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE
COMMUNITY.
>> EMILY IS CORRECT AND THEN
THEY WOULD BE BACK AFTER THAT
IS HELD IN THEY SELECT -- FOR
THE PROPERTIES WILL BE BACK TO
GET AUTHORIZATION TO TRANSFER
THOSE PROPERTIES TO THOSE
SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPERS SO WE
WILL SEE THESE PROPERTIES BACK
AGAIN ONCE THOSE PROCESSES ARE
COMPLETED AND DEVELOPERS HAVE
SUCCESSFULLY SELECTED FOR
PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VERY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS
TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS AND TO
MAKE THIS EASIER. I GUESS THE
FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS TWO OR
THREE YEARS AGO WE PASSED
LEGISLATION TO MAKE IT SO THAT
IF YOU SAW A PIECE OF PROPERTY
THAT WAS ON THE PRIVATE MARKET
AND YOU NEEDED TO ACT QUICKLY,
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BE DELAYED
BY GOING THROUGH OUR CITY'S
PROCESS FOR APPROVAL, YOU HAVE
PREAUTHORIZATION TO GO FOR IT
AND PURCHASE GIVEN THE MARKET
THAT WE ARE IN HERE IN SEATTLE.
WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THIS
OPPORTUNITY SO HERE WE ARE WITH
PUBLIC LAND, GETTING THIS AT NO
COST FROM SOUND TRANSIT.
WE WANT TO DO ALL WE CAN TO
MAKE SURE PROPERTIES LIKE
THESE, AS YOU HEARD OUR GRAVEL
AND LEVELED AND READY TO BUILD,
THAT WE BUILD THAT HOUSING
ASAP.
THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK THAT
YOU HAVE DONE AND THANKS FROM
SOUND TRANSIT.
NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
EVERYONE IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS
OPPORTUNITY SO LET'S DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THIS
MOVING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
I'M OF THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDED PASSAGE OF COUNSEL
BILL 120058.
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> OTHER ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS?
>> HEARING NO COMMENTS,
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL AT OH
AND FUTURE TENANTS IN THIS
LOCATION.
WITH THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE IN THE PASSAGE OF BILL
120058.
>> [ ROLL BEING CALLED ]
>> MADAM CHAIR, THAT IS 4 IN
FAVOR AND 0 OPPOSE.
>> THE COMMUNITY RECOMMENDATION
WILL BE SENT TO THE MAY 10th
SEATTLE COUNCIL MEETING FOR A
FINAL VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGAIN, TO OUR OFFICE OF
HOUSING, ERICA FOR THE
PRESENTATION AND EMILY AURORA
FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AT OH.
WE ARE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD
TRACY, ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU
AND THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON
CENTRAL STUFF ON THIS
LEGISLATION AS WELL.
>> OKAY.
WONDERFUL.
WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA
FOR TODAY AND IT IS NOT EVEN
1:30.
IMAGINE THAT.
SO WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME
FOR FOLKS TO TAKE A BREAK AND
GET SOME LUNCH AND HOPEFULLY
GET WELL RESTED BECAUSE WE DO
HAVE A COUPLE OF HEARINGS THIS
EVENING. THIS EVENING IT WILL
START AT 5:30.
AS A REMINDER TO THE VIEWING
OF, YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC
TESTIMONY.
WE ARE INTERESTED IN YOUR
FEEDBACK AND IDEAS FOR THE
FEDERAL COVID RELIEF DOLLARS,
THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN
DOLLARS MADE AVAILABLE ABOUT
$239 MILLION OVER THE PAST TWO
YEARS.
THE FIRST IS $190 MILLION SO WE
HAVE HAD PLEASE THREE PUBLIC
COMMITTEE MEETINGS ABOUT THIS
DISCUSSION AND WE WILL HAVE A
PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT JUST
FOCUSED ON YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PLEASE DO SIGN UP FOR A
TESTIMONY.
WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN YOUR
FEEDBACK AND COMPILING THAT
FEEDBACK WITH THE INFORMATION
WE RECEIVED FROM THE LAST THREE
MEETINGS AND LOOK FORWARD TO
GETTING THOSE DOLLARS OUT AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AGAIN, EXCITED TO CONTINUE THE
PARTNERSHIP. I KNOW THAT
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ IS
ON THE BOARD AND COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD IS A MEMBER OF THAT
LOCAL PROGRESS AND MANY OF US
CAN BE -- A MEMBER AS WELL.
EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO LEARN
FROM OTHER CITIES THAT ARE
GOING THROUGH SIMILAR PROCESSES
AND WE HAVE NOW HAD TWO
OPPORTUNITIES TO PRESENT WITH
THE CITY OF DENVER AND THE CITY
OF AUSTIN AND ANNAPOLIS AS THEY
ARE LOOKING AT SIMILAR
STRATEGIES TO DEPLOY THEIR
DOLLARS SO TODAY WILL BE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COMBINE
WHAT PUBLIC HEARING TESTIMONY
IS PROVIDING IN TERMS OF
ADDITIONAL PARTIES THAT WE WILL
PUT IN CONTEXT OF WHAT WE ARE
HEARING FROM OTHER CITIES AND
STRATEGIES AS WELL.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY CAN BE FOUND
AT SEATTLE.GOV/
COUNSELL/COMMITTEES/PUBLIC-
COMMENTS AND WE WILL JOIN IN AT
3:30.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM
YOU AGAIN.
WE HOPE YOU CAN JOIN US FOR THE
PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
WITH THAT, I SEE NOTHING ELSE.
HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON.
TODAY'S MEETING IS ADJOURNED.