>> GOOD MORNING, COLLEAGUES.
THE JANUARY 27th 2020 MEETING
WILL COME TO ORDER.
IT IS 9:31 A.M.
I HAVE DAN STRAUSS, CHAIR OF
THE COMMITTEE.
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> [ ROLL BEING TAKEN ]
>> THE LAND-USE AND
NEIGHBORHOODS, NEAR THE CITY OF
SEATTLE, ACKNOWLEDGES WE ON
TRADITIONAL AND ANCESTRAL LANDS
OF THE FIRST PEOPLE OF THIS
REGION PAST AND PRESENT
REPRESENTING IN A NUMBER OF
TRIBES AND URBAN NATIVES.
IN HONOR WITH GRATITUDE THE
LAND ITSELF AND THE PEOPLE OF
THIS LAND.
WE START WITH THIS
ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE
FACT THAT WE ARE GUESTS ON THIS
LAND AND SHOULD STORE THE LAND
AS SUCH.
AS GUESTS.
WE HAVE A FOUR ITEMS ON THE
AGENDA TODAY.
A DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON
COUNSEL BILL 119992, WHICH IS
THE, STRUCTURE CODE AND
DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON BILL
119993 WHICH ADOPTS A SEATTLE
ENERGY CODE.
WE ALSO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND
VOTE ON FILE 314461 AND COUNSEL
BILL 11 9987, WHICH APPROVES AN
EXTENSION OF A CONTRACT REZONE
OF 116 34th AVENUE.
WE ARE ANTICIPATING CANCELING
THE FEBRUARY 10th MEETING OF
LAND-USE AND NEIGHBORHOODS
COMMITTEE. OUR NEXT COMMITTEE
WILL BE ON WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY
24th STARTING AT 9:30 A.M.
BEFORE WE BEGIN IF THERE IS NO
OBJECTION THE AGENDA WILL BE
ADOPTED.
HEARING NO OBJECTION THE AGENDA
IS ADOPTED.
AT THIS TIME WE WILL BEGIN THE
-- OPEN THE REMOTE PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON TODAY'S
AGENDA.
BEFORE WE BEGIN I ASKED THAT
EVERYONE PLEASE BE PATIENT AS
WE LEARN TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM
IN REAL-TIME.
WHILE HER MEDS ARE STRONG
INTENT TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT
REGULARLY INCLUDED ON MEETING
AGENDAS THE CITY COUNCIL
RESERVES THE RIGHT TO END OR
ELIMINATE THESE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIODS AT ANY POINT IF WE DEEM
THAT THIS SYSTEM IS BEING OF
USE OR IS UNSUITABLE FOR
ALLOWING OUR MEETINGS TO BE
CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND IN A
MANNER IN WHICH WE ARE ABLE TO
CONDUCT OUR NECESSARY BUSINESS.
I WILL MODERATE THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD IN THE FOLLOWING
MANNER, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
FROM THIS MEETING IS UP TO 10
MINUTES.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO
MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I WILL CALL ON EACH SPEAKER BY
NAME AND IN ANY ORDER IN WHICH
THEY REGISTERED ON THE COUNCIL
WEBSITE.
IF YOU HAVE NOT YET REGISTERED
TO SPEAK BUT WOULD LIKE TO YOU
CAN SIGN UP BEFORE THE END OF
THE PUBLIC COMMENT BY GOING TO
THE COUNCIL WEBSITE.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT LEAGUE IS
ALSO LISTED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
ONCE I CALL SPEAKERS NAMES
STAFF WILL UNMUTE THE
APPROPRIATE MIKE AND THE
AUTOMATIC PROMPT THAT YOU HAVE
BEEN AND YOU DID WILL BE THE
SPEAKER'S CUTE THAT IT IS THERE
CHARGES BE.
PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR
NAME AND THE ITEM IN WHICH YOU
ARE ADDRESSING.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A TIME WHEN
10 SECONDS ARE LEFT ON THE
LIFETIME.
ONCE A SPEAKER HERE'S THE TIME
WE ASK YOU TO WRAP UP YOUR
COMMENTS.
IF THE SPEAKERS DO NOT IN THEIR
COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE
ALLOTTED TIME PROVIDED THE
SPEAKERS MICROPHONE WILL BE
MUTED AFTER 10 SECONDS TO ALLOW
US TO CALL ON THE NEXT SPEAKER.
WHEN TO HAVE COMPLETED YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT WE ASK THAT YOU
PLEASE DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE
AND IF YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE
FOLLOWING THIS MEETING PLEASE
DO SO VIA THE SEATTLE CHANNEL
OR THE LISTENING OPTIONS ON THE
AGENDA.
FOR ITEMS THREE AND FOUR CLERK
FILE 314461 AND COUNSEL BILL
119987 RELATED TO A CONTRACT
REZONE WHICH IS BEING
CONSIDERED UNDER THE COUNCIL
QUASIJUDICIAL RULES PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS IS
PROHIBITED.
IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT
THE CONTRACT REZONE WE HAVE HAD
PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THESE
PREVIOUSLY AND TODAY IS NOT THE
APPROPRIATE PLACE TO SHARE YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I AM SEEING 28 PEOPLE SIGNED UP
, NOT ALL ARE PRESENT. I CAN
ASSUME WE WILL EXTEND PUBLIC
COMMENT.
SPEAKERS, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO
SHARE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN
FEWER THAN TWO MINUTES PLEASE
DO SO TO ALLOW OTHER FOLKS TO
SPEAK AS WELL.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS
NOW OPEN. WE WILL BEGIN WITH
THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
JUST A MOMENT.
IF WE DO EXTEND PUBLIC COMMENT
WE WILL REDUCE THE TIME TO 1
MINUTE.
FOR THE FIRST 20 MINUTES UNTIL
9:55 PLEASE EXPECT TO HAVE TWO
MINUTES. IF YOU ARE AFTER
SPEAKER 10 PLEASE EXPECT TO TO
ONLY HAVE ONE MINUTE.
LISTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY
I SEE ANNE-MARIE JULIE.
I DON'T SEE THAT YOU ARE
PRESENT.
PLEASE DO CALL IN IF YOU ARE.
ROB VICKERS, ROB RUBY, AREVA
MORIS, JIM STREET I DO SEE
THAT CYNTHIA JUST A WILL, ERIC
ARMBRUSTER YOU ARE NOT PRESENT.
PLEASE CALL IN.
WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
GOOD MORNING, ANNE-MARIE.
>> MY NAME IS ANNE-MARIE
DOOLEY.
I AM A DOCTOR AND A MEMBER OF
WASHINGTON PHYSICIANS FOR
SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.
SEATTLE IS BENDING CODE
MEASURE.
THEY HAVE PREVENTED COVID
THAT'S WHERE I PRACTICE,
BECAUSE IT IS MUCH FASTER.
CHANGE RATES IN. I ASKED YOU TO
LOOK AT BUILDING CODES IN THE
SAME WAY.
SAVING LIVES BY REDUCING CARBON
RELEASE OUTSIDE AND IMPROVING
AIR QUALITY INSIDE.
MOST PEOPLE THINK OF SMOKE AND
TRANSPORTATION AS A SOURCE OF
AIR POLLUTION.
OUR BUILDINGS HAVE TOO LONG
RECEIVED A FREE PASS.
GAS APPLIANCES IN RESIDENTIAL
AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS CAN
PRODUCE SEVEN TIMES THE AMOUNT
OF NITROGEN OXIDE AS GAS POWER
PLANTS.
THE RESULTING SMALL PARTICLE
MATTER CAN INCREASE AS THE
RATES AND REDUCED LUNG FUNCTION
BY 40%, ESPECIALLY WOMEN AND
CHILDREN. OFTEN THOSE WHO ARE
LOWER INCOME.
SEATTLE REALLY HAS NO EXCUSE TO
NOT ELECTRIFY ALL BUILDINGS.
CERTAINLY, NOT THE EXCUSE OF I
HAVE HEARD THAT THE UP FRONT
COSTS ARE TOO HIGH OR THAT IS
NOT PROFITABLE WE NEED TO DO
STILL THE MYTH THAT ELECTRICITY
IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN GAS OR
THE PUBLIC HEALTH HAS NO VALUE.
THE REALITY OF OUR CLIMATE
CRISIS IS INESCAPABLE.
WE HAVE ALL FACED DIFFICULT
DECISIONS.
WE EXPECT TO BE BOLD.
PLEASE PASS THE UPDATES TO THE
SEATTLE COMMERCIAL ENERGY
CULTURE AND MOVE GAS AND WATER
FROM SPACE HEATING.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, ANNE-MARIE.
UP NEXT IS RICH A VOTE.
I DON'T SEE THAT YOUR PRESENT.
PLEASE CALL IN IF YOU'D LIKE TO
SPEAK.
NEXT IS ROBERT Mc VICKERS.
MICHAEL RUBY IS NEXT.
LEEANN GEYER, YOU ARE ON:.
GOOD MORNING, ROB.
>> MY NAME IS ROB McVICKER. I'M
A TOWNHOUSE BUILDER HERE IN
SEATTLE.
I AM CALLING IN TO DISCUSS
TODAY IS STRIKING OF THE
EXEMPTION FROM THE WASHINGTON
STATE CODE ABOUT FORCING
SPRINKLERS IN TOWNHOUSE UNITS
OF FOUR UNITS AND UNDER.
ONE OF THE MAIN EMPHASIS IS OF
OUR BUSINESS HAS ALWAYS BEEN
ENTRY-LEVEL HOUSING.
WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
BUILDING SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING
FOR SALE.
WE HAVE BUILT ABOUT 150 HOMES
HERE IN SEATTLE.
I CONSIDER MYSELF AN EXPERT. I
AM HERE TO SAY THAT EVERY TIME
WE ADD COST TO THE BUILDING OF
A HOUSE IN SEATTLE IT
ABSOLUTELY INCREASES THE SALES
PRICE.
WE AS BUILDERS DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH SLUSH FUND IN OUR
PROJECTS TO BE OBSERVING EVERY
COST, SO WE HAVE TO PASS THAT
ON TO HOMEOWNERS.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE VALUES OF
SD CIN ONE WAS EQUITY, WHICH HAS
JUMPED OUT AT ME.
I FEEL LIKE WE ARE NOT BEING
EQUITABLE AS WE KEEP INCREASING
THE PRICE OF HOUSING.
I DID SOME MATH ON MEDIAN
INCOME HOUSING. I WON'T GO
THROUGH THE DETAILS OF HOW I
FIGURED OUT WHAT I CAME ONTO,
BUT FOR EVERY $10,000 WE
INCREASED THE COST OF HOUSING
IN SEATTLE WE PUSH OUT
APPROXIMATELY 976 POTENTIAL
BUYERS FOR EVERY $10,000.
IF YOU BASE THAT ON A $500,000
HOUSE.
IT IS JUST, FOR US IT'S
FRUSTRATING, BECAUSE WE KEEP
GETTING HIT WITH THESE ADDED
COSTS, ADDED COSTS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNCIL
AND SBC I FEELS THAT THESE ARE
LEGITIMATE NEEDS, BUT AT SOME
POINT WE ARE HITTING A
BALANCING ACT THAT WE CANNOT
MAINTAIN.
WE ARE RUNNING INTO A BRICK
WALL ON BEING ABLE TO STRIVE TO
BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
A LOT OF US IN THE TOWNHOUSE
INDUSTRY, THAT IS WHAT WE LIKE
TO DO, WE LIKE TO GET PEOPLE
INTO HOMES AS AFFORDABLY AS
POSSIBLE.
>> THANK YOU, ROB.
IF YOU HAVE MORE COMMENTS PLEASE
DO SEND THEM IN FOR WRITTEN
COMMENTS.
I ABSOLUTELY HEAR YOU ON THAT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS
TODAY.
UP NEXT IS MICHAEL RUBY AND
THEN LEEANN GEYER. MICHAEL,
GOOD MORNING.
>> HELLO?
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO COMMENT
ON THE COMMERCIAL ENERGY CODE.
WHEN FUTURE HISTORIANS LOOK
BACK AT OUR TIME THEY'RE GOING
TO BE SEEING TWO ISSUES THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO COMMENT ON HOW
WELL DID WE RESPOND.
THE PANDEMIC WILL HAVE BEEN
FORGOTTEN AS THE SPANISH FLU.
SO WILL MANY OF THE OTHER
THINGS WE WORRY ABOUT TODAY.
THERE WILL BE TWO THINGS THEY
WILL LOOK BACK ON AND SAY HOW
WELL DID WE DO?
THE FIRST, "OF COURSE, IS HOW
WELL DID WE RESPOND TO BEN
FRANKLIN'S CHALLENGE.
YOU HAVE A REPUBLIC IF YOU CAN
KEEP IT.
THAT IS NOW A CHALLENGING
EFFORT FOR US AND WE NEED TO
RESPOND TO IT.
THE OTHER THAT WE REALLY NEED
TO RESPOND TO IS HOW
AGGRESSIVELY DID WE RESPOND TO
THE CHALLENGE OF GLOBAL
WARMING?
DID WE HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO
THE VERY DIFFICULT THINGS THAT
NEED TO BE DONE TO ACTUALLY
MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
WE NEED AT THIS POINT TO ADOPT
THE SEATTLE COMMERCIAL ENERGY
CODE.
THERE ARE MANY UPDATES IN IT
THAT WILL HELP US USE OUR
ENERGY MORE EFFICIENTLY AND
ULTIMATELY REDUCE OUR RELEASE
OF GREENHOUSE GASES.
WE NEED TO MAKE TWO AMENDMENTS
TO THE CODE.
ONE IS TO REMOVE THE DELAY FOR
BUILDINGS TO USE EFFICIENT
ELECTRICITY FOR SPACE HEATING.
YOU HAVE RECEIVED DETAILED
WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS FROM
VARIOUS PEOPLE.
THE SECOND IS THAT WE NEED TO
AMEND THE CODE TO REQUIRE
EFFICIENT ELECTRICITY FOR WATER
HEATING FOR ALL BUILDINGS.
AND NOT JUST HOTELS AND
MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE RECEIVED
DETAILED WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM
A VARIETY OF FOLKS DETAILING
THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
ATTENTION AND YOUR COURAGE TO
DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
UP NEXT WE HAVE LEEANN GEYER
FOLLOWED BY STEVE GALE AND
AREVA MORRIS.
YOU ARE ON:.
GOOD MORNING, LEEANN.
I SEE YOU.
MAYBE HIT STAR SIX, LEEANN.
I SEE YOU THERE.
I SEE LEEANN, BUT SHE STILL
UNMUTE.
>> HIT STAR SIX.
>> THERE WE ARE.
GOOD MORNING.
>> I KEPT HITTING POUND.
SILLY ME.
ANYWAY, GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS LEEANN GEYER.
I'M IN OPPOSITION OF ORDNANCE
11903, AMENDMENT ONE AND TWO.
ON BEHALF OF OVER 3800 MEMBERS
OF CONGRESS -- PIPEFITTERS
UNION 32.
THE PROPOSE LEGISLATION EXCEEDS
THE 2018 STATE ENERGY CODE TO
TAKE EFFECT IN FEBRUARY OF 2021.
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL IN THE
ORIGINAL BILL HAS AN
INFORMATION DATE OF JANUARY OF
2022.
AND TO GO, TO ALLOW FOR
ADDITIONAL [ INDISCERNIBLE ].
WE UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY TO
IMPLEMENT CURRENT PROPOSAL, WE
HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS REGARDING
JOB LOSS TO OUR MEMBERS AND
BELIEVE THAT NATURAL GAS IS A
RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE PART OF
A BALANCED CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE.
BY LIMITING NATURAL GAS AS A
SAFE RESOURCE TO ALL COMMERCIAL
BUILDINGS IN SEATTLE MAY BE
CREATING CONSEQUENCES.
CURRENTLY, THE STATE LEGISLATOR
IS CONSIDERING SEVERAL BILLS
RELATED TO HEAT PUMPS AND
HYDROFLUOROCARBONS RELATED TO
THOSE.
BY IMPLEMENTING LEGISLATION OF
THE PROPOSE LEGISLATION IT WILL
CREATE A GREAT BURDEN ON THE
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
I HAVE MET WITH MANY MEMBERS
WHO WORK IN THE REFRIGERATION
SERVICE INDUSTRY IN SEATTLE.
REFRIGERATOR LICENSES REQUIRED
TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN THESE
SYSTEMS.
NOT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN ASKED
TO PRODUCE THEIR LICENSE.
I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE
COMMITTEE TO REJECT AMENDMENT
ONE AND TWO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU, LEEANN.
UP NEXT IS STEVE GAL FOLLOWED
BY AREVA MORRIS AND JIM STREET.
COUNCIL MEMBER JIM STREET, YOU
ARE ON:.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBER
>> I'M WITH THE EMERALD CITY
COLLABORATIVE. FOR 10 YEARS
EMERALD CITY COMMISSION HAS
BEEN TO BRING THE BENEFITS OF
THE NEW CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY TO
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
TODAY WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE ON
ENERGY RETROFITS, RENEWABLE
ENERGY PROJECTS, AND HBC SENSORY
BUILDING TASK FORCE.
CREATING SUSTAINABLE,
EFFICIENT, AND SAFE HOMES FOR
LOW INCOME FAMILIES HAS MANY
BENEFITS.
IMPROVED HEALTH, REDUCES
INCIDENCE OF RESPIRATORY DISEASE
, BETTER COMFORT ALLOWS
FAMILIES AND CHILDREN TO FOCUS
ON SCHOOL AND EACH OTHER RATHER
THAN STAYING WARM.
AND REDUCE ENERGY BURDENS
PRESENT MONEY FOR FOOD,
HEALTHCARE, AND SAVINGS.
THAT'S WHY WE SUPPORT THE
PROPOSED ENERGY CODE
IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE TODAY.
WE ALSO ARE AWARE THAT BETTER
BUILDINGS CAN HAVE A SLIGHTLY
HIGHER COST.
TO THAT END WE WOULD LIKE TO
SHARE THE FOLLOWING.
FIRST, MANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS
TO CODE BRING ENERGY AND
FINANCIAL SAVINGS TO RESIDENTS
ND BUILDING OWNERS AND PAY FOR
THEMSELVES OVER TIME.
SECOND, THE CODE WRITERS WORKED
WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
COMMUNITY TO ADAPT THE CODES TO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING'S UNIQUE
NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTS,
ALLOWING LESS THAN THE ELECTRIC
RESISTANCE SPACE HEATING TO
HEAT THE SMALLER EFFICIENT
UNITS THAT ARE TYPICAL IN OUR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
FINALLY, WE URGE YOU TO
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT FUNDING TO
INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, INCLUDING
ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL
SUSTAINABILITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU, STEVE.
I SEE RICHARD VOTE HAS
RETURNED.
WE WILL HEAR FROM AREVA MORRIS
NEXT, JIM STREET FOLLOWING RICH.
RICH, YOU ARE ON:.
GOOD MORNING, RIVA.
>> HI.
MY NAME IS AREVA MORRIS.
I'M FROM THE 43rd DISTRICT
ENVIRONMENTAL CAUCUS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK.
THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS A CHRONIC
CRISIS THAT EATS AT OUR FUTURE
EASILY EVEN AS WE SPEAK TODAY.
WE CHOOSE POLICY DECISIONS TO
APPLY ENGINEERING SOLUTIONS AT
HAND.
THE NEW COMMERCIAL ENERGY CODES
ARE TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE AND
PROVIDE CONSUMER BENEFITS,
REDUCE ENERGY COSTS LESS
POLLUTION FROM BUILDINGS,
FOSSIL FUELS, SAFETY WITH
ELIMINATION OF GAS LINES. AND A
CHANCE TO BEND THE CURVE ON
GREENHOUSE GASES TO SECURE OUR
FUTURE.
THE URGENCY IS CLEAR.
EXCEPT THE LIMITS TO RESTRICT
THE GAS USE OF GAS AND SPACE
HEATING AND SWITCH TO ELECTRIC
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
ARCHITECTS AND BUILDERS CAN
DESIGN FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE
COST-EFFICIENT AND WORK WITH
ZERO CARBON REQUIREMENTS. THIS
IS A TRANSITION WE ARE IN.
WE NEED TO MAKE THAT
TRANSITION.
WE IN SEATTLE AS A SOCIETY WANT
TO STEP UP TO A TRANSITION AWAY
FROM FOSSIL FUELS.
NOT PASSING THESE NEW ENERGY
CODES WOULD BE LIKE NOT WEARING
A MASK, NOT GETTING VACCINATED,
OR NOT SOCIAL DISTANCING.
PLEASE SUPPORT THESE ENERGY
CODES CHANGES.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES FOR
MISPRONOUNCING YOUR NAME.
FORMER COUNCILMEMBER JIM STREET,
I SAW YOUR PHOTO AS I WALKED IN
THE OFFICE TODAY.
GOOD MORNING.
WE ARE FOLLOWING JIM WITH RICH
VOTE AND CYNTHIA.
YOU ARE ON:.
GOOD MORNING FORMER
COUNCILMEMBER JIM STREET.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JIM STREET.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO
YOU A FASCINATING AND POWERFUL
ARTICLE PUBLISHED LAST WEEK IN
THE NEW YORK INTELLIGENCE
MAGAZINE ENTITLED LIFE AFTER
WARNINGS.
IT'S REALLY WORTH READING.
THE MOST THING I LEARNED FROM
THAT ARTICLE IS THAT DELAY
MATTERS.
TODAY WE ARE 1.2 DEGREES
CENTIGRADE ABOVE PREINDUSTRIAL
LEVELS.
1.2 DEGREES WE ARE ALREADY
EXPERIENCING GLOBAL WARMING
THAT HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON
SEATTLE AND FAR GREATER IMPACT
THAN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD.
OUR PLAN AND HAS A CARBON BUDGET
WHICH EQUALS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT
OF CARBON WE CAN ADD TO THE
ATMOSPHERE IF WE HOPE TO AVOID
A TEMPERATURE INCREASE OF MORE
THAN 1.5 DEGREES CENTIGRADE.
EVERY YEAR EVERY DAY OF DELAY
EXPENDS MORE OF THE CARBON
BUDGET.
EVERY DELAY IN THE APPLICATION
OF A NEW CARBON SAVING
IMPROVEMENT IN ENERGY CODE
EXPENDS MORE OF THE CARBON
BUDGET.
AT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF
ADMISSIONS WE WILL EXHAUST OUR
CARBON BUDGET IN THIS WORLD IN
SEVEN YEARS.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
SEVEN YEARS.
SCIENTISTS ESTIMATE IN ORDER TO
HOLD TO 1.5 DEGREES WE WOULD
NEED TO REACH ZERO EMISSIONS BY
2035.
CURRENTLY, SEATTLE'S GOAL IS TO
REACH ZERO EMISSIONS BY 2050.
WE CANNOT AFFORD ANY DELAY IN
EFFECTIVE POLICIES THAT WILL
REDUCE EMISSIONS NOW.
THAT IS WHY THE 43rd DEMOCRATIC
ENVIRONMENTAL CAUCUS AND MANY
OTHERS ARE URGING YOU TO DELETE
THE REVISION IN THE PROPOSED
BUILDING CODE AMENDMENTS THAT
WOULD DELAY IMPLEMENTING THE
USE OF EFFICIENT ELECTRICITY
FOR SPACE HEATING.
DELAY MATTERS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, JIM. RICH, YOUR
NEXT FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA AND
ERIC ARMBRUSTER.
AFTER ERIC WE WILL BE REDUCING
THE TIME TO 1 MINUTE.
SPEAKERS HOLLY TOWNES, DEPOT,
CHRIS, JUST PLEASE BE PREPARED
FOR A ONE MINUTE COMMENT
PERIOD.
WE WILL AT THAT TIME EXTEND FOR
AN ADDITIONAL 10 MINUTES.
WE WILL ATTEMPT TO BRING
EVERYONE INTO THE COMMENT
TODAY.
AFTER 10:05 WE WILL BE REDUCING
2/32 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING,
RICH.
>> MY NAME IS RICH. I LIVE IN
THE FOREST DISTRICT. I'M A
MEMBER OF THE 43rd DISTRICT
ENVIRONMENTAL CAUCUS.
I WILL REPEAT THE STATEMENT I
HAVE READ. COVID IS A POP QUIZ,
CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE FINAL
EXAM.
WITH OVER 427,000 DEATHS I
THINK WE CAN AGREE THAT THE U.S.
HAS FAILED TO POP QUIZ.
CLIMATE CHANGE BRINGS DEATH AND
ECONOMIC DEVASTATION.
IF IT IS NOT ADDRESSED NOW.
I'M ENCOURAGED BY STATEMENTS
FROM THE NEW BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION THAT IT WOULD
TREAT THE CLIMATE CRISIS AS AN
EMERGENCY THAT IT IS AND THAT
EVERY AGENCY IS NOW A PART OF
OUR CLIMATE.
I'M ASKING YOU TO MAKE EVERY
AGENCY IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE
GOVERNMENT BECOME A PART OF
YOUR CLIMATE TEAM.
THIS BRINGS US TO THE MATTER
BEFORE YOUR COMMITTEE.
I URGE YOU TO PASS THE SEATTLE
ENERGY CODE UPDATE TO INCREASE
ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND REDUCE
CLIMATE POLLUTION FROM
COMMERCIAL AND LARGE
MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.
AND ALSO URGE YOU TO PASS
AMENDMENTS BEING INTRODUCED TO
INCREASE ITS IMPACT AND MAKE
SURE IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE
SOONER.
NO DELAY IN EFFICIENT ELECTRIC
SPACE HEATING REQUIRING
EFFICIENT ELECTRIC WATER,
HEATING FOR ALL COMMERCIAL
BUILDINGS. OR AT LEASE THOSE
WITH HIGH WATER USAGE.
IN SEATTLE BUILDINGS CONTRIBUTE
ALL ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE
CITY'S POLLUTION. DUE TO THE
URGENCY OF THIS CRISIS AND THE
FACT THAT SEATTLE IS FALLING
BEHIND ON ITS GOALS WE NEED
CONCRETE ACTION NOW.
THEREFORE, I URGE YOU TO
COORDINATE THIS POLICY WITH
EXISTING AND NEW CITY WORKFORCE
MOMENT PROGRAMS FOCUSING ON
INCREASING EQUITABLE ACCESS AND
OPPORTUNITY AND ALIGN CITY AND
TECHNICAL SUPPORTS TO THIS CODE
TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
PASSING THE SEATTLE COMMERCIAL
ENERGY CODE IS A CONCRETE STEP
THAT WE CAN DO NOW.
>> THANK YOU, RICH.
>> CYNTHIA, YOUR NEXT FOLLOWED
BY ERIC.
WE WILL THEN HAVE TO EXTEND
PUBLIC COMMENT. HOLLY TOWNES,
YOU ARE ON DECK.
GOOD MORNING, CYNTHIA.
ICU.
PRESS STAR 62 UNMUTE.
IF YOU'RE HEADING POUNDS SIX
MAKE SURE YOU'RE HITTING STAR,
STAR SIX.
I CAN STILL SEE YOU THERE.
HOWEVER, YOU ARE UNMUTE.
I.T, ANY THOUGHTS?
I SEE CYNTHIA, BUT SHE STILL
UNMUTE.
>> STAR SIX.
SHE IS THERE. SHE JUST NEEDS TO
HIT STAR SIX
>> THANK YOU.
IF YOU WANT YOU CAN MOVE ONTO
THE NEXT ONE AND COME BACK TO
CYNTHIA.
>> LET'S GIVE IT JUST ONE MORE
SECOND CYNTHIA, HIT STAR SIX.
CYNTHIA, WE WILL COME BACK TO
YOU.
ERIC, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
>> YEAH.
I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR AND OTHER
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS ERIC ARMBRUSTER.
I OWN AND OPERATE ASHWORTH HOMES
, A PROUD BILL GREEN
CONTRACTOR.
I HAVE ALSO SERVED AS THE
MASTER BUILDERS ASSOCIATION
PRESIDENT, SEATTLE BUILDERS
COUNCIL AND HAVE BEEN A GUEST
SPEAKER AT THE UW SCHOOL OF
REAL ESTATE.
I FOUND IT ASHWORTH HOMES OVER
20 YEARS AGO WITH THE PURPOSE
OF BUILDING TOWNHOMES IN THE
CITY OF SEATTLE WHERE I WAS
BORN AND RAISED.
SINCE THEN WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED
OVER 400 HOMES.
WE HAVE PURPOSELY FOCUSED ON
WHAT HAS RECENTLY BECOME CALLED
THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING
MARKET.
I KNOW YOU BE VOTING ON THE
TECHNICAL CODE UPDATES TODAY,
WHICH ARE NECESSARY AND OFTEN
MUNDANE PROCESS OF KEEPING A
CITY'S RESPECTIVE CODES WITH
STATE, FEDERAL, AND
INTERNATIONAL COAST.
MOST OF THESE UPDATES HAVE BEEN
IN THE PROCESS FOR LONG TIME
AND THEIR APPROVAL IS ALL BUT
GUARANTEED.
I HAVE NO MISCONCEPTION THAT
THESE CODES WILL BE APPROVED AS
THEY ARE PRESENTED TODAY.
RATHER, MY PURPOSE IN SPEAKING
TO YOU TODAY IS TO RAISE THE
ALARMS TO KEEP WOULD'VE COSTS
LAYERED ON TOWNHOMES
SPECIFICALLY BY THINGS LIKE
MHA, UTILITY MAIN EXTENSIONS,
CURB RAMP REPLACEMENT, STREET
IMPROVEMENTS, EXCLUSIVE BIKE
PARKING, TRASH FACILITIES, AND
SO ON.
ALL OF THESE ARE ADDING UP TO
A, THE COST BURDEN THAT IS MADE
TOWNHOMES FINANCIALLY
INFEASIBLE TO BUILD.
WE HAVE GONE FROM HAVING
APPROXIMATELY 50 PER YEAR IN
OUR DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE DOWN
TO ZERO.
WE AREN'T EVEN LOOKING TO
ACQUIRE LAND THAT COULD BE
DEVELOPED INTO TOWNHOMES,
BECAUSE IT'S UGLY DOESN'T WORK
ANY LONGER.
I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW YOUR
ATTENTION TO 2 SPECIFIC IMPACTS
IN THE CODES YOU WILL BE
APPROVING TODAY.
ONE IS THE ENERGY CODE AND THE
SECOND IS FIRE SPRINKLERS.
WHILE WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE
MORE ENERGY-EFFICIENT BUILDINGS
THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE
ENERGY CODE IS SOMEONE BETWEEN
$5000 AND $25,000.
>> THANK YOU, ERIC.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND IN THE
REST OF YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT
YOU SHARED WITH US TODAY IS
CYNTHIA STILL AVAILABLE?
PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE EXTENDED
FOR AN ADDITIONAL 20 MINUTES.
AN ADDITIONAL 23 MINUTES TO
10:20 FOR THE NEXT 10 MINUTES,
WE WILL TAKE ONE MINUTE COMMENT
AFTER 10:10 WE WILL TAKE 32nd
COMMENTS.
UP NEXT IS HOLLY TOWNES.
WE WILL FOLLOW BY CYNTHIA AND
DEE BOTIA VARGA.
YOU ARE ON DECK.
GOOD MORNING, HOLLY.
HOLLY, I SEE YOU AND I SEE THAT
YOU ARE ON MUTE.
ARE YOU THERE?
YOU PUT YOURSELF BACK ON MUTE.
THERE YOU ARE.
IS YOUR PHONE ON MUTE?
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> THERE WE ARE.
GOOD MORNING, HOLLY.
>> OKAY.
DO I HAVE A MINUTE OR TWO
MINUTES?
I'M SORRY.
>> SORRY.
YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE TODAY.
>> OKAY.
HI.
THIS IS HOLLY TOWN.
I AM A MECHANICAL ENGINEER. I
URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE SEATTLE
ENERGY CODE, PLUS THE IN THE
MID TO NOT DELAY THE
RESTRICTIONS ON USING FOSSIL
FUEL FOR SPACE HEATING.
I ALSO URGE YOU TO EXTEND
FOSSIL FUEL RESTRICTIONS FOR
WATER HEATING TO ALL COMMERCIAL
BUILDINGS.
TO NOT DELAY THIS CODE INSTEAD
OF AN AMENDMENT YOU SHOULD PASS
A RESOLUTION TODAY THAT
COMMENCED THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE
SOME LEGISLATION IN THE NEXT
MONTH TO RESTRICT POSSIBLE
FUEL, WATER HEATING, IN ALL
COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AT THE
SAME TIME.
WE MUST AS A COMMITTEE ACT ON
THE CONCRETE PROVEN MEASURES TO
FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE NOW TODAY.
I AM REMINDED OF WHEN THE CHAIR
OF THE COMMITTEE COUNCILPERSON
DAN STRAUSS CAME TO OUR GROUP
AND HE WAS IT COMMITTED TO
FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE AS A
PRIORITY.
HE THOUGHT THE PEOPLE DID NOT
REALIZE WILL HAVE TO DO
BUSINESS DIFFERENTLY.
YES.
WE WILL.
WE ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
DO THIS NOW.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CYNTHIA.
>> WE HAVE LIMITED TIME TO
ADDRESS THIS CLIMATE CRISIS. I
STILL BELIEVE THAT TODAY.
CYNTHIA, I SEE YOU STILL.
ARE YOU ABLE TO PRESS STAR SIX?
>> CAN SHE MAKE SURE THAT THE
PHONE IS NOT IN SLEEP MODE
ALSO?
>> CYNTHIA, WE WILL LEAVE YOU
UP.
ONCE YOU'RE ABLE TO COME BACK
AND PRESS STAR SIX WE WILL TAKE
YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UP NEXT WE HAVE DEEPER FOLLOWED
BY CHRIS.
GOOD MORNING.
>> THANK YOU.
TO CLARIFY, DO HAVE ONE MINUTE
OR 30 SECONDS?
>> WE ARE AT ONE MINUTE.
>> THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS DEEPER.
ON THE WASHINGTON POLICY
MANAGER AT CLIMATE SOLUTIONS.
WE SUPPORT THE UPDATES TO THE
COMMERCIAL ENERGY CODE WITH A
CRUCIAL AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD
REMOVE THE UNNECESSARY DELAY OF
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SPACE
HEATING PROVISIONS UNTIL NEXT
YEAR.
THESE CODE UPDATES ARE AN
IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD IN
CURBING SEATTLE'S GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS AS WELL AS
PROTECTING THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND
WORKERS.
AS DR. DOOLEY MENTIONED EARLIER,
BUILDINGS IN WASHINGTON EMIT
BALLOONS THAT CAN HARM
RESPIRATORY, CARDIOVASCULAR,
AND NEUROLOGICAL HEALTH.
AIR POLLUTION HAPPENS BOTH
INDOORS AND OUTDOORS IN
BUILDINGS.
AIR POLLUTION JUST
PROPORTIONALLY IMPACTS LOW
INCOME COMMUNITY SINCE THE
HISTORICAL IMPACTS OF
SEGREGATION AND REDLINING HAVE
LED THESE COMMITTEES TO BE
PUSHED TO LIMIT GREATER
EXPOSURE TO AIR POLLUTION.
AND THE CURRENT COVID-19
PANDEMIC TO FURTHER HEIGHTEN
THESE RISKS.
AS SMALL INCREASES IN THE
RESPONSE IS CURRENTLY WITH A
LARGE INCREASE IN COVID-19
DEATH RATE.
FOR THESE REASONS DOING PARTS
OF THE CODE WOULD CREATE
GREATER RISK TO THE HEALTH OF
SEATTLE WORKERS AND WE ALSO
ENCOURAGE COUNSEL TO LOOK AHEAD
PASS THIS UPDATE TO ANOTHER
ORDINANCE THAT ELECTRIFIES ALL
NEW BUILDINGS IN SEATTLE WHILE
THIS CODE UPDATE IS A GREAT
FIRST STEP --
>> THANK YOU.
PLEASE DO FEEL FREE TO SEND IN
YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS.
UP NEXT WE HAVE CHRIS HOLMSTROM
FOLLOWED BY JUST WALLACE AND
ON DECK IS BENJAMIN MART.
GOOD MORNING, CHRIS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS CHRIS HALTER.
I'M A PRACTICING ARCHITECT IN
SEATTLE.
I'M HERE ON THE SEATTLE CHAPTER
IN SUPPORT OF ADOPTING THE 2018
ENERGY CODE AND BOTH PROPOSED A
MINUTES FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I WILL KEEP IT SIMPLE WITH TWO
MAIN POINTS.
FIRST, WE NEED ENERGY CODE AND
CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT SO
SEATTLE CAN MEET ITS CLIMATE
TARGET IN AN EQUITABLE WAY TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE CITY'S
LARGEST SOURCES OF GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS.
TWO, ARCHITECTS IN THE BUILDING
INDUSTRY THE DISCONTINUED
ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP FROM
THE CITY TO HELP BRING UP THE
BASELINE OR BUILDING OWNERS
WILL VOLUNTARILY MEET THE
ENERGY AND DECARBONIZATION
TARGET THAT THEY SHOULD.
RAISING FOR HELP SOLVE US TO
LIVE HEALTHIER LIVES.
THERE'S TWO MAIN TOPICS I WANT
TO TOUCH ON BRIEFLY.
FIRST, THE COST OF INACTION OR
DELAY IN ACTION IS TO GREAT.
IF WE KEEP PUSHING OFF BUILDING
RESPONSIBLY WILL COST US ALL
MORE IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE
BUILDING RETROFITS ARE REALLY
MORE EXPENSIVE.
THE DOCTRINE THE FIRST TEST 20
TALKED ABOUT HEALTH IMPACTS AS
WELL.
SECONDLY, CLEAR LEGISLATIVE
POLICY DIRECTION IS KEY TO
REDUCING MARKET COST.
THANKS FOR SUPPORTING ME.
>> THANK YOU, CHRIS.
NEXT WE HAVE JUST WALLACE
FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN MERRITT AND
BRITNEY BUSCH DELAY, YOU ARE ON
DECK.
CYNTHIA, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO
PRESS STAR SIX AND ONCE WE SEE
YOU ARE OFF MUTE WE WILL BRING
YOU BACK INTO THE QUEUE.
GOOD MORNING, JUST.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JUST WALLACE.
I'M ONE OF THE CAMPAIGN
CODIRECTORS WITH 350 SEATTLE.
FOR MORE THAN HALF MY LIFE
SEATTLE'S MAYORS HAVE BEEN
PROMISING BOLD ACTION ON
CLIMATE.
YET OUR CLIMATE POLLUTION HAS
GONE UP EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
TODAY COUNSEL CAN CHANGE THAT.
PASSED THE STRONGEST ENERGY
CODE UPDATE POSSIBLE.
2021 CAN FINALLY BE THE YEAR
THAT SEATTLE'S CLIMATE SOLUTION
START GOINGS DOWN.
SEATTLE BELIEVES THAT THE SALE
OF PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION HAS
BEEN A RIGOROUS INCLUSIVE AND
THOUGHTFUL JOB IN PREPARING
LEGISLATION.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT COUNCIL
MEMBERS TO REMOVE THE DELAYS FOR
EFFICIENT SPACE HEATING.
WE ALSO SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER
LOUIS'S AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD
EXTEND THE WATER HEATING
REQUIRED TO ALL COMMERCIAL
BUILDINGS.
WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME
DETAILS TO SORT OUT.
TODAY I WANT TO THANK ALL
COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE FOR BEING
COMMITTED TO WORK WITH STC I TO
MOVE THIS FORWARD.
FROM OUT THERE SPOT TRADING
STORMS TO FAMILIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY LOSING THEIR HOMES BUT
WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE VERY REAL
HUMAN COST WHEN CLIMATE ACTION
IS POSTPONED.
WE ARE YOU TO PASS THE
STRONGEST ENERGY CODE UPDATE
WITHOUT DELAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, JESS.
UP NEXT WE HAVE BENJAMIN MAR
FOLLOWED BY BRITNEY BUSCH DELAY
AND ALISHA LOUISE, YOU ARE ON
DECK.
GOOD MORNING, BENJAMIN.
PLEASE PRESS STAR 6 TO ENSURE
YOUR PHONE IS NOT ON MUTE.
BENJAMIN, ARE YOU ABLE TO PRESS
STAR SIX?
IF NOT WE WILL COME BACK TO
BENJAMIN.
THERE WE ARE.
I SEE YOU THERE.
YOU ARE OFF MUTE.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.
I AM A DEVELOPER OF OUR CURRENT
RATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES WE CAN.
LOUD AND CLEAR.
>> GREAT.
SORRY.
I'M A DEVELOPER OF MARKET RATE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SPEAKING
THIS WAY.
THIS WORD OF THE NEW ENERGY CODE
AND POST TO THE MEMO THAT WILL
ACCELERATE THE ECON
REQUIREMENTS.
GOOD MORNING.
I'M A DEVELOPER OF MARKET RATE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE NEW
ENERGY CODE AND OPPOSED TO THE
MEMO THAT WILL ACCELERATE THE
HEAT PUMP REQUIREMENT.
I WANT THE COMMITTEE TO KNOW
THAT IF WE IMPLEMENT THE NEW
CODE IT WILL COST US $10,000-
$15,000 MORE TO CONSTRUCT OUR
APARTMENT COSTS.
úTHAT WILL TRANSLATE TO AN
INCREASE OF RENT ABOUT $50-$100
A MONTH.
THE COST SAVINGS FOR OUR RENT
AND UTILITIES WILL ONLY BE
ABOUT FIVE DOLLARS TO $10 A
MONTH.
THIS TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT FAVOR
ITSELF.
IT MUST BE PAID FOR BY OUR
RENTERS WERE CURRENTLY
EXPERIENCING BOTH COVID AND A
HOUSING CRISIS.
THIS IS THE WRONG TRADE-OFF.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, BENJAMIN.
IF YOU HAVE FURTHER COMMENTS
THAT YOU DID NOT GET TO SHARE
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO YOU DOWN
EMAIL THEM TO ME.
UP NEXT WE HAVE BRITNEY PUSH
BELAY FOLLOWED BY BRITNEY
NARES.
APOLOGIES TO ALL SPEAKERS IF I
AM IS PRONOUNCING THE NAMES.
BENJAMIN, I SEE YOU AFTER ZACH.
HOWEVER, YOU ARE NOT PRESENT AT
THIS TIME.
BRITNEY, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS BRITNEY BRITNEY PUSH
PLAY.
I AM CALLING TO THANK YOU FOR
CONSIDERING AND ADVANCING THE
IMPORTANT ENERGY CODE UPDATES
BEFORE YOU TODAY AND FOR A
CONTINUING PARTNERSHIP MOVING
SEATTLE AWAY FROM PHRACK GAS
AND OTHER FOSSIL FUELS.
SEATTLE ALREADY FACES THE
IMPACT OF CLIMATE POLLUTION
EVERY DAY. ANGELA PURDY, ONE
THIRD OF THE POLLUTION COMES
FROM BUILDINGS.
MOST OF IT PRODUCED BY THE USE
OF PHRACK GAS.
MODERNIZING THE COMMERCIAL
BUILDING CODE IS A SIMPLE AND
EFFECTIVE WAY TO SLOW THE
DAMAGE TO OUR CLIMATE
WE FEEL IF THE UPDATES ARE
PRESENTED THEY WILL IMPROVE THE
PROCESS.
WE ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH YOU ON EXTENDING THE NEW
WATER HEATING RULES TO APPLY TO
ALL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE TO
REMOVE ONE MORE FOSSIL FUEL
SOURCE FOR OUR BUILDINGS IN OUR
LIVES.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, BRINI.
UP NEXT WE HAVE ALISHA LOUISE
FOLLOWED BY ZACH. BENJAMIN, YOU
ARE STILL NOT PRESENT.
IF YOU REMAIN NOT PRESENT AND
ARE FASHION YOU ON DECK.
GOOD MORNING, ALICIA.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I WILL KEEP THIS SHORT AND
SWEET.
MY NAME IS ALISHA LOUISE.
SEATTLE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
MANAGER FOR THE MASTER BUILDERS
ASSOCIATION.
I'M TESTIFYING TODAY AGAINST
THE ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ACTION
TO NO LONGER EXEMPT SMALLER
TOWNHOMES DEVELOPED FROM
REQUIRING FIRE SPRINKLERS.
THIS CAN ADD, ACCORDING TO SOME
OF MY BUILDERS ANYWHERE BETWEEN
$11,000 AND $16,000 PER UNIT.
ADD THAT TO OTHER CITY FEES,
MANDATES, AND REGULATIONS,
WHICH CAN ADD OVER YOUR UP TO
$200,000 TO THE COST OF BUILDING
A TOWNHOME IN SEATTLE. THAT
LEADS US TO THE QUESTION, HOW
CAN WE PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING WHEN THE CITY IS
CONSTANTLY ADDING ADDITIONAL
COSTS?
AS I HAVE SHARED WITH SOME OF
YOU BEFORE, TOWNHOME PERMITS
ARE DOWN DRASTICALLY.
THIS SHOULD BE A HUGE RED FLAG
FOR CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, ALICIA.
UP NEXT WE HAVE ZACH. FOLLOWED
BY ELEANOR AND AMY.
GOOD MORNING, ZACH.
>> COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
COMMENT TODAY ON THE PROPOSED
UPDATES TO THE SEATTLE ENERGY
CODE.
MY NAME IS ZACH.
ADVOCATE WITH ENVIRONMENT TOTAL
ENTREPRENEURS.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, E2 IS A
NATIONAL ADVOCACY NETWORK OF
OVER 9000 BUSINESS OWNERS,
EXECUTIVES, INVESTORS, AND
OTHER PRIVATE-SECTOR
PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK ACROSS
ALL INDUSTRIES AND SECTORS.
I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED
UPDATES TO THE ENERGY CODE.
WHILE THE CLIMATE IMPERATIVE IS
CLEAR, E2 RECOGNIZES THE NEED
TO STRENGTHEN THESE CODES.
IT WILL GIVE LONG-TERM SAVINGS
TO BUILDERS AND RENTERS ALIKE
AND DRIVE CLEANTECH INVESTMENT
AND JOB GROWTH IN THE CITY.
BUILDING ON THE MORE THAN 3000
CLEAN ENERGY JOBS IN SEATTLE AT
THE BEGINNING OF 2020.
WILL MAXIMIZE A COMMON AND
ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THESE
UPDATES AND WE ASKED THE
COUNCIL TO REMOVE THE
UNNECESSARY DELAY FOR BUILDINGS
USE ELECTRICITY FOR SPACE
HEATING AND TO REQUIRE ALL
BUILDING COVERED UNDER THE CODE
TO USE ELECTRICITY FOR WATER
HEATING.
THANK YOU, COMMITTEE FOR YOUR
WORK ON THESE UPDATES AND FOR
YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU, ZACH.
UP NEXT IS ELEANOR BASTION
FOLLOWED BY AMY WILLIS AND MATT
COONEY IS ON DECK.
WE ARE AT 10:10 A.M.
AFTER ELEANOR THE TIME WILL BE
REDUCED TO 30 SECONDS.
PLEASE ADJUST YOUR COMMENTS AS
SUCH.
WE CAN ALWAYS RECEIVE YOUR
COMMENTS VIA WRITTEN EMAIL.
THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING,
ELEANOR.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ELEANOR BASTION.
I AM THE CLIMATE AND CLEAN
ENERGY POLICY MANAGER AT THE
WASHINGTON ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL
, WASHINGTON CONSERVATION
VOTERS GROUP WITH THOUSANDS OF
EMBERS ACROSS THE CITY. I WILL
BE BRIEF.
PHRACK GAS HAS NO PLACE IN OUR
FUTURE.
IT IS NOT RELIABLE.
IT IS NOT SAFE.
IT IS NOT CLEAN.
THE UPDATES THAT YOU ARE TAKING
TODAY TAKES A STEP TO START
GETTING US OFF PHRACK GAS.
THE LONGER WE WAIT THE MORE WE
KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
I APPRECIATE THE ACTION COUNCIL
HAS TAKEN TODAY AND ENCOURAGE
THEM TO REMOVE THE UNNECESSARY
DELAYS FOR BUILDINGS USE
ELECTRICITY FOR SPACE HEATING.
>> THANK YOU, ELEANOR.
UP NEXT WE HAVE, WE ARE NOW
ADJUSTING TO 30 SECONDS FOR
SPEAKERS.
UP NEXT IS AMY WILLIS FOLLOWED
BY MATT COLEY, JOHNNY COACH OR
YOU ARE ON DECK.
GOOD MORNING, AMY.
>> MY NAME IS AMY WILLIS.
I CO-CHAIR [ INDISCERNIBLE ] I
SUPPORT THESE ENERGY CODE
UPDATES TODAY.
THIS MEETING IS A COMBINATION
OF MORE THAN A YEAR AND HAVE A
PORK AND STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH
TO TRY TO MAKE THESE UPDATES
STRONG AND [ INDISCERNIBLE -
LOW VOLUME ] THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.
>> THANK YOU, AMY.
NEXT WE HAVE MATTHEW COMAY
FOLLOWED BY JOHNNY COACH OR AND
SEAN ARMSTRONG.
YOU ARE ON DECK THE MORNING,
MATTHEW.
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
MATTHEW.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE SEATTLE 2030 DISTRICT
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT
BREAKS DOWN MARKET VALUES TO
BUILDING EFFICIENCY.
I WILL KEEP THIS SHORT.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT THE
SEATTLE CODE UPDATE.
ENERGY CODE IS A CRITICAL
MECHANISM ACHIEVING
DECARBONIZATION AT THE CITY
SKILL.
PLEASE REFER TO MY SUPPORT FOR
INFORMATION.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MATTHEW.
UP NEXT WE HAVE JOHNNY COACH OR
FOLLOWED BY SEAN ARMSTRONG AND
ELIZABETH STAMPEDE.
YOU ARE ON DECK.
APOLOGIES FOR ANY
MISPRONUNCIATIONS.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMAN
RESPECT MY NAME IS JOHNNY.
I FOR FOR THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN
INSTITUTE.
THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD APPROVE
THE AMENDMENT THAT REMOVES
UNNECESSARY RESTRICTIONS FOR
ELECTRICITY FOR SPACE HEATING
AND -- ELECTRICITY FOR WATER
HEATING.
ALL ELECTRIC BUILDINGS ARE
SIMPLY CHEAPER TO CONSTRUCT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU, JOHNNY.
SEAN ARMSTRONG, YOU ARE NEXT
FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH SCAMPI
AND ANDREW ECCLES, YOU ARE ON
DECK. GOOD MORNING, SEAN.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I'M SEAN ARMSTRONG.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN A MORE THAN
100 ALL ELECTRIC LOW INCOME
RESIDENTS IS THAT ALL ELECTRIC
HAS HELPED LOWER CONSTRUCTION
COSTS BY $2000-$3000 PER UNIT.
MANY STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE AS
WELL. ALL ELECTRIC DOES NOT
SOLVE THE NATIONAL CRISIS, BUT
IT DOES PROVIDE ENOUGH SAVINGS
TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR
DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS
HELPING PAY FOR SAFETY FEATURES
LIKE WATER SPRINKLERS.
THE DEPARTMENT -- ELECTRIC
IGNITIONS, FANS, AND PUMPS.
CONTRACTORS ADD GAS TO THE
BUILDING, WHICH RAISES COSTS.
>> THANK YOU, SEAN.
PLEASE SEND IN ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS.
UP NEXT WE HAVE ELIZABETH
FOLLOWED BY ANDREW AND I
BELIEVE IT IS YUKI. YOU ARE ON
DECK.
GOOD MORNING, ELIZABETH.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
I'M ELIZABETH STAMP WITH THE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL. EXPRESSING OUR STRONG
SUPPORT FOR THE STRONGEST
POSSIBLE PROPOSED SEATTLE
COMMERCIAL ENERGY CODE UPDATES
WITH NO DELAY.
BUILDINGS GENERATE ONE THIRD OF
THE'S CLIMATE POLLUTION. WE
KNOW SEATTLE IS A CLIMATE
LEADER.
THE CITY'S RECENT EMISSIONS
REPORT REVEALS MORE IS NEEDED,
ESPECIALLY ON BUILDINGS.
BUILDINGS STAND FOR DECADES, SO
THAT FOSSIL FUEL POLLUTION IS
LOCKED IN FOR GENERATIONS LSU
ACT TODAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, ELIZABETH.
UP NEXT IS ANDREW POLLARD BY
YUKI.
MY APOLOGIES FOR
MISPRONUNCIATION.
KURT SWANSON, YOU ARE ON DECK.
BENJAMIN, IF YOU ARE GOING TO
CALL IN PLEASE CALL BACK IN.
WE WILL CALL YOU AT THE END.
GOOD MORNING COMMANDER.
>> ANDREW WITH SEATTLE
RESIDENTS CALLING IN SUPPORT OF
THE ENERGY CODE UPDATES AND THE
ELEMENTS. I SUPPORT EVERYTHING
THAT HAS BEEN SET.
PLEASE TAX THE RICH 20 FUND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE MASSIVE WEALTH INEQUALITY
IN THIS COUNTRY.
TAX THE RICH TO PAY FOR THIS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, ANDREW.
UP NEXT, PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO
PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME MY
APOLOGIES.
>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
MY NAME IS YUKI OKC.
I AM THE DIRECTOR OF REAL
ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FOR
HOMESITE.
I AM COMMENTING IN SUPPORT OF
UPDATES TO THE SEATTLE
COMMERCIAL ENERGY CODE.
HOMESITE FOR MANY YEARS HAS
BEEN COMMITTED TO PROVIDING
SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENTS
FOR LOW INCOME FIRST-TIME
HOMEBUYERS.
OUR FOCUSES ON DEVELOPING
ENVIRONMENT CHILLY SUSTAINABLE
HOMES WITH LONG-TERM DURABILITY
AND LOW OPERATIONAL HOUSING
COSTS ARE PRESENTLY, WE ARE
DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE LIMITED
EQUITY RESIDENTIAL CO-OP AND
HAVE ALREADY INVESTED IN THE
BUILDING MEASURES REQUIRED BY
THIS CODE, INCLUDING
VENTILATION, ELECTRIC HEAT
PUMPS, HOT WATER SYSTEMS --
>> THANK YOU.
PLEASE FILL FREE TO SEND IN
YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS.
KURT SWANSON, YOUR NEXT. I CAN,
CYNTHIA, BENJAMIN IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK PLEASE CALL IN
NOW.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS KURT SWANSON.
ON A BUSINESS AGENT FOR UNITED
ASSOCIATION OF PLUMBERS AND
PIPEFITTERS LOCAL 32.
WE REPRESENT OVER 700 MEMBERS
IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON
WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE
MEMBERS THAT INSTALL NATURAL
GAS PIPING AN AGREEMENT IN
COMMERCIAL, LIKE COMMERCIAL,
AND RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO
THIS LEGISLATION AND PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS.
THE LEGISLATION WILL RESULT IN
LOSS OF WORK FOR OUR BUSINESS
PARTNERS AND THEREFORE OUR
MEMBERS DURING THIS TOUGH
ECONOMIC PERIOD.
I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN
REJECTING THIS.
AT A MINIMUM, PLEASE STICK TO
THE ORIGINAL POLICY PERFORMING
ADDITIONAL OUTREACH.
>> THANK YOU, KURT.
I DO KNOW FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS
, AND YOU HEAR ADDITIONAL
OUTREACH ON SOME OF THESE
SECTIONS WILL BE OCCURRING. AT
LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
AT THIS TIME.
I.T, CAN YOU CONFIRM CYNTHIA
AND BENJAMIN ARE NOT PRESENT?
>> THERE ARE NO OTHER CALLERS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> SEEING AS WE HAVE NO
ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS REMOTELY
PRESENT WE MOVE ONTO THE NEXT
AGENDA ITEM.
SEEING AS WE HAVE NO ADDITIONAL
SPEAKERS AND SIGNED UP OR
REMOTELY PRESENT THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED.
AGAIN, WE WILL MOVE ONTO THE
NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS
TODAY IS A DISCUSSION AND VOTE
ON A PROPOSED UPDATE TO THE
SEATTLE CONSTRUCTION CODE.
PLEASE READ THE ABBREVIATED
TITLE INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 1, BILL 119
.992.
AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO SEATTLE
CONSTRUCTION CODES DOTTING THE
SEATTLE BOILER CODES, FEDERAL
BUILDING CODE, ELECTRICAL CODE,
EXISTING BUILDING CODE, FUEL
GAS CODE, MECHANICAL CODE,
PLUMBING CODE, AND RESIDENTIAL
CODE.
>> THANK YOU.
WE ARE JOINED BY SEATTLE CITY
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF AS WELL
AS TECHNICAL STAFF FROM SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION AND
INSPECTIONS TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF
STARTING WITH CENTRAL STAFF.
GIVE US A BRIEF REFRESHER ON
THIS LEGISLATION.
>> KETO-FRIENDLY, COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF.
I CAN START ON THE REFRESHER.
MAYBE WE SHOULD DO
INTRODUCTIONS FIRST.
>> YES.
IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF
AGAIN.
I KNOW THIS IS THE SECOND TIME
THIS HAS COME BEFORE OUR
COMMITTEE.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE BOTH AGAIN.
AND WAYNE.
>> THANK YOU.
TECHNICAL CODE DEVELOPMENT
MANAGER FOR STC I.
>> BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR STC I.
>>
>> ENERGY CODE ADVISOR FOR STC
I.
>> IS THERE A PRESENTATION?
>> THERE IS NOT.
I WAS IS GOING TO REFRESH THE
COMMITTEE MEMBER ABOUT WHAT
COUNTABLE ONE WHEN I .9 IT TO
DOES, WHICH IS CONSTRUCTION
CODES WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE
THE ENERGY CODE.
THAT IS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
AND THEN REMIND THE COMMITTEE
ABOUT THE PROCESS TODAY.
WHAT IT DOES.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, THERE IS
SOME TESTIMONY ABOUT FIRE
SPRINKLER REQUIREMENTS AND I
WILL ASK ARDELL AND MICHAEL TO
SPEAK TO THE CONSTRUCTION CODE
ADVISOR BOARD'S DISCUSSION ON
THAT ADDITION TO THESE
CONSTRUCTION CODES.
OUR PROCESS TODAY, AS YOU KNOW,
THE SEATTLE ADOPTS NEW
CONSTRUCTION CODES
APPROXIMATELY EVERY THREE
YEARS.
THIS IS THE 2018 CONSTRUCTION
CODE CYCLE ADOPTION FOLLOWS A
CYCLE OF REVISIONS TO MODEL
CODES.
ABOUT THE INTERNATIONAL CODE
COUNCIL AND THE WASHINGTON
STATE BUILDING CODE COUNCIL.
LOCAL REVISIONS ARE INFORMED BY
IS A COLDER PROCESS.
THAT INCLUDES CONSULTATION WITH
THE CONSTRUCTION CODES ADVISORY
BOARD.
THAT IS A CITY BOARD. STATE LAW
REQUIRES THAT THE CITY ADOPT
AND ENFORCE STATE CONSTRUCTION
CODES AND PROVIDES ONLY LIMITED
AUTHORITIES FOR THE CITY TO
AMEND THOSE CODES.
CONSTRUCTION CODES FOR THIS
CYCLE WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED
TO GO INTO EFFECT ON JULY 1st
2020. THAT WAS EXTENDED TO
NOVEMBER 1st 2020 THROUGH THE
GOVERNOR'S PROCLAMATION 20/40
ASSOCIATED WITH COVID CIVIL
EMERGENCY AND HAS BEEN FURTHER
DELAYED UNTIL FEBRUARY 1st,
WHICH IS NEXT MONDAY.
WHAT WOULD COUNSEL BILL 1199
TWO DO?
IT ADOPTS AN UPDATE TO 8
CONSTRUCTION CODES.
THE BOILER AND PRESSURE VESSEL
CODE, WHICH IS A UNIQUE CODE TO
THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
THE BUILDING CODE, THE
ELECTRICAL CODE, THE EXISTING
BUILDING CODE, THE FUEL GAS
CODE, THE MECHANICAL CODE,
PLUMBING CODE, AND RESIDENTIAL
CODE. AT THE LAST COMMITTEE
MEMBER MEETING STC I
HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE NOTABLE
CHANGES IN THESE CONSTRUCTION
CODE UPDATES.
I WILL REITERATE A FEW HERE.
THERE ARE SOME STANDARDS THAT
CODIFY CONSTRUCTIONS WITH CROSS
LAMINATED TIMBER.
THERE IS CODIFICATION STANDARDS
FOR GENDER-NEUTRAL TOILETS
THERE IS NEW STANDARDS.
UPDATES TO EXISTING STANDARDS
THAT WOULD BE NEW THAT WILL
REFLECT THE VARIOUS NATURAL
HAZARDS TO WHICH SEATTLE IS
SUSCEPTIBLE, INCLUDING TSUNAMI
LOADS AND UPDATES TO SEISMIC
DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME NEW
STANDARDS FOR TINY HOUSES.
MY READ ON THIS, MICHAEL AND
O'DELL CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M
WRONG, THIS PERTAINS WHAT WE
WOULD CALL [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
NOT NECESSARILY TINY HEALTH
VILLAGES IN A LAND-USE CONTEXT.
FINALLY, NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR
FIRE SPRINKLERS FOR TOWNHOUSE
DEPARTMENT BELOW A CERTAIN SIZE
THRESHOLD.
I GUESS I WILL ASK ARDELL AND
MICAH TO CHINE IN HERE WITH THE
DISCUSSION OF THAT STANDARD.
>> THANK YOU.
SO, THE CHANGE FOR TOWNHOUSE
SPRINKLERS WAS ALSO DISCUSSED
AT THE STATE LEVEL.
SEATTLE FURTHER AMENDED TO
REQUIRE TOWNHOUSE SPRINKLERS IN
ALL TOWNHOME CONSTRUCTION.
AGAIN, A REMINDER THAT
TOWNHOMES ARE THREE UNITS OR
MORE THAT ARE CONNECTED.
SO, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
SEATTLE AND THE STATE IS THREE
AND FOUR UNIT TOWNHOMES.
SEATTLE WILL BE SPRINKLE. I
CAN, SPRINKLER -- REALLY THE
DISCUSSION WAS WE ALL EXCEPT
THAT SPRINKLERS PROTECT FOR
HAZARDS BETWEEN BUILDINGS.
AND THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS
ACCEPTABLE RISK FOR FIRE
SPREADING TO ADJACENT UNITS?
THE BUILDERS ARE CORRECT.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THERE IS ADDED COST IN ADDING
SPRINKLERS TO TOWNHOME UNITS
AND THAT DOES GET TRANSFERRED TO
THE RESIDENCE AND THE COST OF
HOUSING IN THE CITY.
THERE IS THE COST OF THE
SPRINKLERS, COST OF CONNECTION
TO THE WATER MAIN.
THOSE ARE THE BIG ONES.
MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU COVER
THAT COST?
WE DID HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT
REDUCTIONS IN RATE OF
CONSTRUCTION, REDUCING, HELPING
TO COUNTER THAT COST AS WELL AS
REDUCED INSURANCE COSTS.
MICHAEL, DO YOU WANT TO ADD
ANYTHING?
>> CERTAINLY.
I THINK YOU COVERED MOST OF
THAT.
WE DID HAVE MULTIPLE MEETINGS
ON THIS TOPIC. WE HAD BOTH FOR
AND AGAINST. WHEN IT CAME UP
FOR VOTE AT THE CONSTRUCTION
CODE ADVISORY BOARD IT WAS A
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH, WITH THEIR LANGUAGE,
WHICH WOULD BE TO REQUIRE THEM
IN ALL TOWNHOMES ONE OF THE
OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAD A
QUESTION, PREVIOUSLY WAS HOW IS
THIS SHOWN IN THE CODE?
WE WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE
THAT IS IDENTIFIED BY THE
LANGUAGE. WE DID NOT,
TECHNICALLY, ADOPT THE
EXCEPTION FROM THE STATE.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CHANGE
THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN THE CODE,
IS THAT THERE IS NOT AN
ADDITIONAL EXCEPTION THAT WE
ARE ADOPTING.
I CAN, THE STATE IS ADOPTING
SPRINKLERS AND UNITS THAT HAVE
FIVE OR MORE TOWNHOUSES.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
>> THANK YOU,. FOR THE VIEWING
PUBLIC IF YOU GO TO THE CITY'S
LEDGER STAR WEBSITE, SEATTLE.
REGISTRAR.COM YOU CAN PULL UP
TO THE'S COMMITTEE AGENDA WITH
SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS.
THERE IS A POWERPOINT FROM OUR
LAST MEETING WHERE THIS WAS ALL
DISCUSSED.
COLLEAGUES, DO YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ANY
FURTHER INFORMATION TO CONSIDER?
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE.
AND FOR HELPING TO STEWARD
THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF.
WE APPRECIATE THE UPDATES WE
ARE INCLUDING HERE.
I WANT TO NOTE MY APPRECIATION
FOR MASS TIMBER IN THE WORK
GOING ON IN THIS AREA.
ALSO, CONTINUE TO REITERATE
LET'S GO TALLER.
RIGHT?
LET'S KEEP USING OUR IRON AND
STEEL CONSTRUCTION AND LET'S DO
MORE, ESPECIALLY IN THE REALM
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
TO BUILD TALLER AND DENSER
NEIGHBORHOODS AND MORE OPTIONS
ACROSS OUR CITY.
WE KNOW THAT MANY OF OUR IRON
WORKER FRIENDS ARE EAGER TO
ENGAGE IN THE WORK OF BUILDINGS
, OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES OF
ALL SIZES TO LIVE IN THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WANT TO MAKE A PLUG FOR
CONTINUING TO USE IRON AND
STEEL CONSTRUCTION.
ESPECIALLY AS WE THINK ABOUT
USING THE AIRSPACE THAT IS
UNUSED IN MANY PARTS OF OUR CITY
. WE HAVE SOME GOOD TEST PILOTS
THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW
RELATED TO HOUSING AND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND USING
THAT TYPE OF FRAME.
I THINK ALL OPTIONS ARE GOOD.
I JUST WANT TO KEEP PLUGGING
AWAY FOR LET'S KEEP GOING
TALLER AND LET'S PUT THOSE IRON
WORKERS TO WORK.
>> AGREED.
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON.
PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR, STRAUSS.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE
EXTRA TIME TO DIGEST THESE
ITEMS.
HAVING THAT COMMITTEE BACK ON
JANUARY 13th AND THEN AGAIN
TODAY WAS VERY HELPFUL.
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK THE
EXECUTIVE BRANCH STAFF WHO
COMPLETED THE FISCAL AND A
SUMMARY OF THE FISCAL NOTE,
WHICH HAS THOSE TWO CLIMATE
CHANGE QUESTIONS IN IT NOW.
THAT IS A TEMPLATE FOR ALL NEW
LEGISLATION. IT ASKS WHETHER
THE LEGISLATION IS GOING TO
INCREASE OR DECREASE CARBON
EMISSIONS.
IT ASKS WHETHER LEGISLATION IS
GOING TO HELP THE CITY BECOME
MORE RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF
CLIMATE CHANGE WE ARE ALREADY
IN THE MIDST OF.
IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE, IF THE
PUBLIC LOOKS AT THOSE MATERIALS
AND OPEN UP THAT FISCAL NOTE
LOOK ON PAGE 3 THEY WILL SEE
THE CLIMATE CHANGE QUESTIONS.
THIS IS SHOWING THAT THIS
LEGISLATION IS GOING TO HELP
DECREASE CARBON EMISSIONS AND
INCREASE RESILIENCY IN THE FACE
OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
PETERSON.
COUNCILMEMBERS AND YOUR
ASSEMBLIES, ANY QUESTIONS
BEFORE WE CONTINUE?
>> NONE FROM ME MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME IF THERE IS NO
FURTHER DISCUSSION, NO
AMENDMENTS I WOULD LIKE THE
COMMITTEE TO VOTE ON THE
CONSTRUCTION CODE OUT OF
COMMITTEE. DOUBLE CHECKING NO
FURTHER QUESTIONS.
LOOKING GOOD.
AT THIS TIME I MOVED THE
COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE
OF COUNSEL BILL 119992.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU VICE CHAIR.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE BILL
. IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLE?
>> [ ROLL BEING TAKEN ]
>> I'M GOING TO STOP FOR JUST A
SECOND, BECAUSE I BELIEVE SHE
WAS HAVING TECHNICAL
DIFFICULTIES EARLIER THIS
MORNING.
AN ISSUE WITH HER LAPTOP.
LET ME JUST CONTINUE TO WAIT
ONE SECOND.
CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE REMIND ME
WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR PUTTING
HER VOTE ON THE RECORD?
SHOULD WE NEED TO CONTINUE AT
THIS TIME.
>> YOU MAY BE ABLE TO RE-
CONCLUDE THE VOTE LATER.
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO CALL FOR
RECONSIDERATION LATER.
THAT MIGHT ONLY BE AN ORDER IF
IT'S SOMEONE WHO VOTES NO.
>> AMELIA, ICU.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
IF WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THIS
VOTE WE CAN DO IT TO RECONSIDER
THE VOTE.
COUNCILMEMBER WAR IS, AND THEN
VOTE ON THAT ITEM.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.
>> MR. ON, WE CAN CONTINUE.
>> FOUR IN FAVOR, NOT OPPOSE.
>> THANK YOU.
MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU ALL.
THIS LEGISLATION WILL BE BEFORE
THE CITY COUNCIL NEXT MONDAY.
OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS TODAY
IS THE OTHER HALF OF THE
CONSTRUCTION CODE CONVERSATION
ENERGY CODE.
PLEASE READ THE ABBREVIATED
TITLE INTO THE RECORD.
>> ITEM 2 COUNSEL BILL 119993,
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
SEATTLE'S CONSTRUCTION CODES
ADOPTING THE SEATTLE ENERGY CODE
AND CHAPTERS OF THE WASHINGTON
ADMINISTRATOR CODE.
>> THANK YOU.
WE HAVE THE SAME SET OF
PRESENTERS ON THE LINE FOR THIS
ITEM. BEFORE WE GET TO
AMENDMENTS, CAN YOU PLEASE
PROVIDE A BRIEF REFRESHER. I
KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAS THIS
BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE IN THE
LAST MEETING.
THIS IS A REFRESHER FOR THE
VIEWING PUBLIC.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET INTO OUR
REGISTRAR GO TO
SEATTLE.REGISTRAR.COM AND THAT
IS WHERE YOU WILL FIND THE
PRESENTATION FROM OUR LAST
COMMITTEE MEETING.
GOOD MORNING, YOLANDA.
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND
THEN WE WILL HAVE SDCI
TAKEAWAY.
>> LOT OF, COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF.
AS THE CHAIR STATED, I WILL BE
GIVING A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND
NOTING SOME POLICY GUIDANCE
RELATED TO THE ENERGY CODE.
ON TOP OF WHAT WAS MENTIONED IN
TERMS OF DESCRIBING THE
PROCESS, IN PARTICULAR THE
ENERGY CODE HAS THE MOST
EXTENSIVE OUTREACH AND
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS OF
TEMPERATURES CONSTRUCTION CODES
DUE TO SEATTLE'S LONG-STANDING
COMMITMENT TO LEAD ON ENERGY
EFFICIENCY IN THE STATE.
ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO THE COUNCIL
ADOPTED RESOLUTION 30280 WHICH
IDENTIFIED ACTIONS TO
ACCELERATE SARAH'S GREEN
BUILDING PROGRAM.
ONE ACTION THERE IN WAS FOR THE
DEPARTMENT THAT IS NOW THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
CONSTRUCITON AND INSPECTIONS,
FOR THEM TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS
TO THE ENERGY CODE THAT WOULD
INCREASE ENERGY EFFICIENCY UP
TO 20% ABOVE NATIONAL STANDARDS.
ALSO, IMPORTANT AS PART OF THIS
DISCUSSION IS THAT THE STATE
DOES ALLOW SEATTLE TO AMEND THE
PORTION OF ENERGY CODE THAT IS
APPLICABLE TO NEW MULTIFAMILY
BUILDINGS, TO MULTIFAMILY
BUILDINGS OVER THREE STORIES
AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AS
WELL AS ALTERATIONS OF THESE
BUILDINGS, BUT DOES NOT ALLOW
AMENDMENT OF THE CODE AFFECTING
RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
AS PART OF THE UPDATE PROCESS
SDCI STAFF WORKED WITH
TECHNICAL EXPERTS AND OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS AS A DEVELOPED
PROPOSED MINUTES TO THE STATE
ENERGY CODE FOR THE MAJORITY OF
2020 AND PRESENTED THE OPPOSED
AMENDMENTS TO AROUND 40
DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER
ORGANIZATIONS. A LOT OF
COMMUNICATING WITH COMMUNITY.
NOTABLE CHANGES IN THE PROPOSED
2018 SEATTLE ENERGY CODE
INCLUDING THE ADDITION OF A
GOAL OF REDUCING CARBON
EMISSIONS TO THE CODE IN
ADDITION TO THE EXISTING GOAL
OF INCREASING ENERGY
EFFICIENCY.
THIS NEW GOAL IS CONSISTENT WITH
SEATTLE'S 2013 CLIMATE ACTION
PLAN AND RESOLUTION 31895,
WHICH ESTABLISHED THE GREEN NEW
DEAL FOR SEATTLE ADOPTED BY THE
COUNCIL IN 2019, WHICH INCLUDED
A GOAL OF MAKING SEATTLE FREE
OF CLIMATE POLLUTANTS BY 2030.
TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS, THESE
TWO GOALS THE PROPOSED GOAL
WOULD RESTRICT THE USE OF
FOSSIL FUELS AND ELECTRIC
RESISTANCE SYSTEMS FOR SPACE
EATING FOR ALL COMMERCIAL AND
MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.
ALSO RESTRICT THE USE OF FOSSIL
FUELS FOR WATER HEATING AND
MULTIFAMILY AND HOTEL USES.
THE WATER HEATING RESTRICTIONS
WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THESE TYPES
OF USES BASED ON THE RATIONALE
THAT THEY HAVE MORE PREDICTABLE
WATER DEMAND AND COMMERCIAL
USES.
WHICH VARY WIDELY DEPENDING ON
THE BUSINESS.
THESE ARE NEW RESTRICTIONS
THESE TWO PROVISIONS ARE
PROPOSE TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE
DATE OF JANUARY 1st 2022 RATHER
THAN MARCH 15th 2021.
WHEN THE REST OF THE CODE WOULD
GO INTO EFFECT.
SDCI STAFF NOTED THAT THE
EFFECTIVE DATE DELAY FOR SPACE
EATING WAS PROPOSED IN ORDER TO
ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL OUTREACH,
BUT THAT PRODUCT NECESSARY TO
ACHIEVE A COMPLIANT IS ALREADY
AVAILABLE. IN THE CASE OF WATER
HEATING YOUR TIME IS NECESSARY
FOR BOTH OUTREACH AND TO ALLOW
FOR THE NECESSARY TECHNOLOGY TO
REACH THE MARKET.
I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS
CONDUCTED AS PER SEPA, THE
STATE ENVIRONMENT POLICY ACT,
STATES THAT THESE MEASURES WILL
REDUCE CARBON EMISSIONS BY 4.4%
BY 2050. AND THAT THIS NEW CODE
UPDATE, CARBON EMISSIONS, WOULD
BE EVALUATED AS PART OF THE
BUILDING ENERGY MODEL.
NOT JUST ENERGY USE.
OTHER MEASURES IN THE PROPOSED
2018 SEATTLE ENERGY CODE WOULD
IMPROVE INSULATION, ENHANCE THE
BUILDING ENVELOPE, AND INCREASE
PRODUCTION OF RENEWABLE ENERGY.
>> THANK YOU, YOLANDA.
DUANE, MICAH, ADELE, ANYTHING
TO ADD?
>> LOT OF DID A GREAT JOB.
I THINK WE ARE GOOD.
>> WONDERFUL.
NOT SEEING FURTHER COMMENTS.
YOLANDA, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A
NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS.
>> YES.
THAT IS CORRECT.
THERE ARE TWO AMENDMENTS.
I WILL GIVE AN OVERVIEW. THIS
WOULD CHANGE THE EFFECTIVE DATE
DELAY FOR THE RESTRICTIONS ON
THE USE OF FOSSIL FUELS AND
ELECTRIC RESISTANCE FOR SPACE
HEATING.
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD MAKE --
SORRY, I SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT
THE VERSION 1 OF THE AMENDMENT,
WHICH WAS ATTACHED TO THE MEMO
HAS NOW BEEN SUPERSEDED BY
VERSION 2 OF THE AMENDMENT,
WHICH I SENT OUT RIGHT AS THE
COMMITTEE COMMENCED THIS
MORNING.
VERSION 2 -- VERSION 1
PROPOSED TO REMOVE THE JANUARY
1st 2022 EFFECTIVE DATE DELAY
ENTIRELY, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE
RESTRICTIONS FOR SPACE HEATING
GO INTO EFFECT ON MARCH 15th OF
2021 WITH THE REST OF THE
ENERGY CODE.
VERSION 2 INSTEAD PROPOSES THAT
THESE RESTRICTIONS SHOULD GO
INTO EFFECT ON JUNE 1st 2021.
SO THAT THE VERSION 2 IS WHAT I
BELIEVE THE SPONSORED WOULD LIKE
CONSIDERED BY THE COMMITTEE.
>> THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE A SCREEN THAT YOU
CAN SHARE FOR US TO VISUALLY
SEE THE AMENDMENTS?
AND VICE CHAIR MOSQUEDA, DO YOU
HAVE ANY THOUGHTS YOU'D LIKE TO
SHARE ON THIS?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, AGAIN FOR
YOUR WORK TO HAVE THESE ROBUST
DISCUSSIONS AND BUILD IN ENOUGH
TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER
POSSIBLE CHANGES.
I THINK AS WELL TO THE
EXECUTIVE FOR THE ROBUST AND
CLEAR ENGAGEMENT THEY HAVE DONE
ON THIS ISSUE.
MR. CHAIR, IF IT PLEASES YOU WE
WILL DESCRIBE THE AMENDMENT
AGAIN AND THEN MOVE IT, IF THAT
SOUNDS REASONABLE.
OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MOVE IT
FIRST?
>> A BRIEF DISCUSSION WOULD BE
GREAT.
AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO
MOVING THE ITEM AFTER THAT.
>> THANKS VERY MUCH.
THE AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF YOU,
VERSION 2 OF AMENDMENT ONE,
HELPS TO MOVE THE EFFECTIVE
DATES OF THE IMITATION OF HEAT
PUMPS TO JUNE 1st, 2021 INSTEAD
OF JANUARY 21st 2022.
THIS WAS AN IMPLEMENTATION DATE
SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
RESTRICTIONS RELATED TO THE USE
OF ELECTRIC RESISTANCE OR
FOSSIL FUELS FOR SPACE HEATING.
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD MAKE THE
RESTRICTIONS GOING TO AFFECT ON
THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF JUNE 1st,
WHICH WOULD GIVE US THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE ROBUST
ENGAGEMENT.
HAVING CONVERSATIONS OVER THE
LAST FEW DAYS, ESPECIALLY WITH
SOME OF OUR FOLKS FROM BUILDING
CONSTRUCTION TRADES, ALSO YOU A
32 LABORERS AND A HANDFUL OF
OUR FOLKS THAT YOU HEARD FROM
THIS MORNING AS WELL, FROM THE
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE WORLD AND
HOUSING WORLD, INCLUDING AIA,
NORTHWEST ENERGY, 350 SEATTLE,
EMERALD CITY, AND A FEW OTHERS
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
THERE WAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE
THE CHANGE TO USING SPACE
HEATING AVAILABLE EARLIER THAN
ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IN THE
LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF US.
ALSO, TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A
ROBUST ENGAGEMENT FOR
RULEMAKING.
ALSO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME
PIECES OF LEGISLATION MOVING
THEIR WAY THROUGH THE HALLS OF
OLYMPIA. OUT OF RESPECT FOR
THAT PROCESS RECOGNIZING THAT
THERE IS CONVERSATION
SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH
REFRIGERANT PIPES AND HOW THOSE
REFRIGERANT PIPES COULD BE USED
IN HEAT PUMPS FOR SPACE
HEATING.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE ALL THE AVAILABLE
INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US AS
WE FINALIZE RULES.
THE DESIRE HERE IS TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE IMITATION DATE IS JUNE
1st 2021, SO WE CAN MOVE
FORWARD WITH URGENCY, BUT ALSO
IN A WAY THAT MAKES SURE THE
RULEMAKING IS REFLECTIVE OF ANY
CHANGES THAT MAY OCCUR IN THE
STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND
ALSO GIVES US TIME TO HAVE
ENGAGEMENT WITH STAKE HOLDERS
HERE.
COLLEAGUES, WE KNOW FROM OUR OWN
CITY FOOTPRINTS THAT WE
CURRENTLY SEE EVERYDAY THAT
THESE ARE:MARKS WE SEE ACROSS
OUR CITY SPECIFICALLY AS WELL
AS IN PIONEER SQUARE THOSE
BUILDINGS WE CREATE AND THAT WE
DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO LAST
FOR DECADES, IF NOT
GENERATIONS.
I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE ARE
WORKING ON PASSING THE ENERGY
FOOT TODAY.
WE ALSO AIM TO IMPROVE THE
CONSTRUCTION OF BOTH BUSINESSES
AND HOMES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE MOVING TOWARDS A GREENER,
HEALTHIER FUTURE.
GREENER AND HEALTHIER FUTURE
FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
I THINK THE CODES IN FRONT OF US
MAKE SOME CRITICAL CHANGES. IN
ADDITION TO THIS IN THE MID
TODAY WITH THIS CHANGE DATE TO
JUNE WE ALSO ARE WORKING
COLLECTIVELY WITH VARIOUS
STAKEHOLDERS TO HELP MAKE SURE
THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE MOVING
TOWARDS MORE ENERGY EFFICIENCY,
THAT WE MOVE TOWARDS A JUST
TRANSITION AS WE THINK ABOUT
NEW TECHNOLOGIES AT HAND AND
THAT WE ARE GRITTING
SUSTAINABLE POLICIES AS WELL AS
WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
TRADE UNIONS AND OTHER ARCHITECT
, ENGINEER, AND ARCHITECT
ORGANIZATIONS WE HEARD FROM
OVER THE LAST FEW MEETINGS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION OF THIS AMENDMENT
BEFORE US.
I TO GET ECHOES MUCH OF WHAT WE
HEARD THIS MORNING DURING
PUBLIC TESTIMONY, LOOKING FOR
THAT RIGHT BALANCE AS WE SHIFT
AWAY AND MOVE TOWARDS CLEAN
RENEWABLE ENERGY AND MAKING
SURE WE ARE DOING IT THROUGH
JUST TRANSITION STRATEGIES AND
WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY IS
AVAILABLE, LIKE IT IS HERE,
THAT WE DO IT WITH A SENSE OF
URGENCY.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
BOTH BRINGING THE AMENDMENT
FORWARD AND THEN INCORPORATING
STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK TO BE ABLE
TO MAKE THIS FIT AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE BUT I REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT.
COLLEAGUES, DO WE HAVE ANY
COMMENTS?
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER FOR
EXPLAINING THE CEMENT SO
THOROUGHLY AND THE THOUGHT
PROCESS BEHIND IT.
WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF
. AS I UNDERSTAND, THE
CONSTRUCTION ADVISORY BOARD
RECOMMENDED THE JANUARY ONE
2022 DATE.
THERE WAS AN OFFICIAL PROCESS
THAT VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS
ALREADY WENT THROUGH TO COME UP
WITH THAT DATE, JANUARY 1 2022,
WHICH THEN THE EXECUTIVE WERE
ACCEPTED IN SUBMITTED TO US FOR
OUR CONSIDERATION.
IS THERE -- THE FISCAL NOTE IN
DEALING WITH THE CLIMATE CHANGE
QUESTION, IT SAYS THAT
EMISSIONS WILL GO DOWN,
RESILIENCY WILL GO UP IF THIS
IS ENACTED WITH JANUARY 120 20
TO DATE.
WE OBVIOUSLY HEARD A LOT OF
PASSIONATE COMMENTS FROM GROUPS
WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS
HAPPEN SOONER, WHICH MAKES
SENSE AS WELL.
THEN WE ALSO HEARD FROM CERTAIN
LABOR ORGANIZATIONS, THOSE WHO
BUILD THE HOUSING WHO WOULD
PREFER THE JANUARY 120 20 TO
DATE.
I AM SORT OF STRUGGLING WITH
THIS A BIT IN TERMS OF THE
IMPLEMENTATION DATE EITHER WAY
COUNSEL IS GOING TO PASS
SOMETHING THAT IMPROVES THE CODE
AND MAKES IT, YOU KNOW,
ADDRESSES CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS THE KEY
ISSUE HERE.
FOR STAFF IS THERE ANYTHING
PREVENTING THOSE BUILDING NEW
BUILDINGS FROM USING THESE
CHANGES VOLUNTARILY?
I GUESS WE COULD START WITH
YOLANDA OR MICAH.
>> GREAT QUESTION ON ASKING IF
THEY ARE ALLOWED TO USE THOSE
CURRENTLY.
YES.
IF AN APPLICANT CHOOSES TO
IMPLEMENT THIS THEMSELVES WITH
THEIR APPLICATION UNDER THE
2018 CODES WE WOULD ACCEPT THAT
AS PART OF THE PACKAGE.
THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL
STEP WHERE THEY WOULD NEED TO
PROVIDE MUCH A COLD ALTERNATE
REQUEST, WHICH IS JUST ANOTHER
MINOR STEP TO ALLOW THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YES, WE
WOULD ALLOW THAT TO OCCUR IF
THEY WANTED TO IMPLEMENT THIS
ON THEIR OWN.
AN EARLIER DATE THAN WHAT IS
STATED HERE.
>> OKAY.
I WOULD JUST ADD THAT EVERYONE
IS ALWAYS FREE TO GO BETTER
THAN CODE.
>> RIGHT.
>> OKAY.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU.
THAT IS MY ONLY QUESTION NOW,
CHAIR STRAUSS MAYBE OTHER
COUNCILMEMBERS MIGHT GENERATE
MORE QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
PETERSON.
ARE THERE COMMENTS?
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT
HERE TO SPEAK UP IN FAVOR OF
THE AMENDMENT.
I HAD ALSO BEEN CONSIDERING NOT
MOVING A VARIATION OF THIS
AMENDMENT AND CONVERSATIONS
WITH STAKEHOLDERS.
I'M HAPPY TO STAND ASIDE FOR
THE PROCESS THAT COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA CONVENED I APPRECIATE
THAT THE DEADLINE THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA
ULTIMATELY AGREED ON IS ONE
THAT IS COGNIZANT OF OTHER
MOVING PIECES IN OLYMPIA. AND
FEEDBACK FROM STAKEHOLDERS IN
LABOR AND IN INDUSTRY. YOU
KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE EXCHANGE
COUNCIL MEMBER PETERSON JUST
HAD WITH CENTRAL STAFF.
I THINK OUR RESPONSE IN OUR
BUILDING PERMIT TO THE CLIMATE
EMERGENCY HAS TO GO BEYOND
EXPECTATIONS OF PEOPLE DOING
MORE THAN WHAT IS EXPECTED. AND
VOLUNTARY, ESSENTIALLY, USE OF
SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT
MATERIALS, SOME OF THESE
STANDARDS AND OBSERVING SOME OF
THESE ENERGY POLICIES.
I KNOW WE HAVE A GREAT MANY
BUILDERS, ESPECIALLY IN
DISTRICT 7 WHO HAVE GONE ABOVE
AND BEYOND. AND THERE HAS BEEN
A LOT OF INNOVATION, FOR
EXAMPLE, OF PEOPLE TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THE GREEN BUILDING
PILOT, WHICH HAS BEEN THE CASE
OF INCENTIVIZED USE OF A LOT OF
THESE ENERGY STANDARDS THAT WE
ARE DISCUSSING AND CODIFYING
NOW.
DO WE NEED A MORE EXTREME
DEGREE?
WE NEED TO TAKE THIS NEXT STEP.
WE NEED TO DO IT WITH URGENCY
AND ON AN ACCELERATED TIMELINE.
I THINK THIS AMENDMENT
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA HAS PUT
TOGETHER IS A GOOD BALANCE OF
TALKING TO ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS
TO HAVE A REASONABLE TIMELINE
THAT BOUNCES THOSE INTERESTS.
I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF
THIS AMENDMENT TODAY.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.
COUNCILMEMBER WARS ANY COMMENTS
AT THIS TIME?
>> I ACTUALLY DO.
I'M JUST A LITTLE, I KNOW THAT
YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT FROM
JANUARY 2022 TO JUNE 2021.
CORRECT?
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
THIS ACCELERATED TIMELINE. I
UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. I ALSO
UNDERSTAND FROM LOOKING AT WHAT
THE CONSTRUCTION ADVISORY BOARD
SAID. I APOLOGIZE I HAVE NOT
READ THE WHOLE 12 PAGE MEMO FROM
YOLANDA.
THANK YOU.
I GUESS FROM LISTENING TO
PUBLIC COMMENT AND SOME OF THE
PIPEFITTERS AND SOME FOLKS AND
SOME OF THE CALLS WE GOT THAT
ASKED US TO REJECT THIS
AMENDMENT WHAT IS THE ACTUAL,
IF I'M WRONG I'M WRONG AND
THAT'S FINE, THE EXPEDIENCY OF
RIGHT NOW?
WHY NOW RIGHT NOW IN LIGHT OF
WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AND
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ON THE
STATESIDE?
IS THERE ANY KIND OF COMMON
SENSE APPROACH TO THE REASON
WHY WE WANT TO MOVE IT UP IS
BECAUSE THIS WILL HAPPEN OR IS
IT JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
CLIMATE CHANGE AND WE NEED TO
DO EVERYTHING NOW?
I'M JUST ASKING THE PRACTICAL
QUESTION.
>> VICE CHAIRMAN SKATER AND
THEN DOING, I SEE YOU ARE ALSO
OFF OF MUTE.
>> I'M HAPPY TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER
CENTRAL STAFF OR THE DEPARTMENT
STAFF RESPOND.
>> NOT A PROBLEM.
DOING?
>> IT'S QUITE UNUSUAL THAT WE
PUT A DELAY OF LIMITATION DATE
ON ANYTHING. WE DID ORIGINALLY
WITH THE WATER HEATING, BECAUSE
THAT'S AN UNUSUAL TYPE OF
CONSTRUCTION FOR MOST
CONTRACTORS AND ENGINEERS.
THERE WAS SOME LEARNING CURVE.
THE ORIGINAL BUILD DID NOT HAVE
A DELAY FOR THE SPACE HEATING,
BECAUSE THAT IS CONVENTIONAL
CONSTRUCTION THAT IS WIDELY
USED ALL OVER. THIS DID COME UP
AS KIND OF A COMPROMIE WITH
SEVERAL OTHER ISSUES IN THE
MIDST OF THE DISCUSSIONS.
IT IS WHAT THE MAYOR PUT
FORWARD.
IT WAS THE ONE YEAR DELAY.
THERE WASN'T A SPECIFIC
TECHNICAL NEED FOR THAT.
>> OKAY.
IT WASN'T ACTUALLY A DATE SET
AND THEN WE SAID OKAY, LET'S
HAVE A DELAY.
AND THEN WE PICKED JANUARY 2022.
IF IT'S POLITICAL AND POLICY
THAT'S FINE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
PEOPLE HAVING AN AGENDA, I JUST
NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.
NOT DRESSING UP IN SOME
PRACTICAL, LIKE, YOU KNOW,
CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO HIT
US IN A WEEK AND WE GOT TO DO
IT NOW.
THAT'S JUST ALL I'M ASKING.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CUTE HERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHY WE ARE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME
ON MOVING SOMETHING UP WHEN IT
IS BASICALLY, IF IT'S A POLICY
PIECE AND THERE IS AN EMERGENT
ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND WE
NEED TO DO THIS NOW I GET THAT.
I WOULD RATHER HEAR THAT.
I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER WARRIORS, I
WILL SAY IN THE LAST COMMITTEE
HEARING THERE WAS CONVERSATION
OF BRINGING BOTH THE HEAT PUMP
AND THE WATER HEATING FORWARD.
WE REQUESTED TO, BECAUSE THE
TECHNOLOGY IS NOT RIGHT TODAY,
THAT WATER HEATING WOULD BE
DELAYED. THERE IS A POLICY
REASON THERE.
BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT
TECHNOLOGY THERE TODAY.
AS FAR AS HEAT PUMPS, IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO HAVE
THE TECHNOLOGY HERE TODAY.
THAT TECHNOLOGY IS READY TO
IMPLEMENT. AND THAT'S -- SO WE
DECIDED WHEN TO BRING THIS INTO
IMPLEMENTATION AS WE HEARD
EARLIER TODAY.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA BROUGHT
THE AMENDMENT UP FOR MARCH.
THAT WOULD BE NEXT MONTH.
AND THEN TO PROVIDE SOME MORE
BUFFER ZONE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE
THIS, HAVE TIME TO RAMP UP.
THAT'S WHY THAT DATE HAS BEEN
CHOSEN.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AT THIS
TIME.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
I LOVE THAT PHRASE, WE HAVE THE
TECHNOLOGY.
THAT PROBABLY PREDATES YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS FROM THE
BIONIC MAN.
YOU PROBABLY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT
THAT MEANS.
>> IS THAT MORE INSPECTOR
GADGET?
>> CLOSE ENOUGH.
CLOSE ENOUGH.
THANK YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
VICE CHAIRMAN SKATER, ANY
FURTHER COMMENTS?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THE
AMENDMENT?
>> BOTH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
YEAH.
I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF
WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY AND I
THINK THAT IT'S ALSO REASONABLE
FOR US TO ASK FOR A JUNE 1st
IMPLEMENTATION DATE TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE ALSO REFLECTING ANY
OF THE POSSIBLE CHANGES THAT
MIGHT BE UNDERWAY RELATED TO
REFRIGERANT PIPES THAT ARE USED
IN THE HEAT PUMP TECHNOLOGY.
APPRECIATE YOU A 32, THE
FEEDBACK I HAVE RECEIVED FROM
THEM SPECIFICALLY.
THE ONGOING CONVERSAIONS
THEY'RE HAVING WITH LEGISLATORS
IN OLYMPIA ABOUT HOW TO
MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF
GREENHOUSE GASES THAT ARE USED
IN REFRIGERANTS. AND THE
HYDROFLUOROCARBONS THAT THEY
STILL ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS.
IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBLE CHANGES
COMING FROM THE STATE LEGISLATOR
DISCUSSIONS WE ALSO WANT TO BE
REFLECTIVE OF THAT.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT A PRACTICAL
DATE FOR IMPLEMENTATION,
RECOGNIZING TECHNOLOGY IS IN
FRONT OF US.
ALSO BUILDING IN ENOUGH TIME TO
INCORPORATE ANY POTENTIAL
CHANGES FROM THE STATE
LEGISLATURE.
FRANKLY, TO ALSO GIVE US THE
TIME FOR SUFFICIENT STAKEHOLDER
ENGAGEMENT ON RULEMAKING.
I WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPORTIVE OF
THE MARCH DATE.
I THINK AS WE THINK ABOUT
RULEMAKING AND WANTED TO MAKE
SURE THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR US TO ALSO BUILD INTO
RULEMAKING THE NEED TO BE
WORKING WITH LICENSED
TRADESPEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN THE
AREA OF PLUMBERS AND
PIPEFITTERS AND MAKING SURE
THERE'S APPROPRIATE FOLKS,
ASHER, FROM PRESIDENT GEYER,
WHO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF
MAKING SURE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS
BEING APPLIED DIRECTLY TO
TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE TODAY, BUT
WE ARE HAVING THE RIGHT SKILL
TRADESPEOPLE AND LAMENTING IT
BUT WE ALSO HAVE A CHANCE TO
WORK ON RULEMAKING TO MAKE SURE
DOES LICENSES ARE BEING
DISPLAYED ANY TIME WE ARE AND
LAMENTING THESE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES.
WITH THE BROADER TRAITS MAKING
SURE THAT JURISDICTIONAL RULES
AND RESPONSIBILITY ARE
CURRENTLY LAID OUT. MOVING FROM
MARCH TO JUNE MADE A LOT OF
SENSE TO ME.
MOST FOR THE LIMITATION AND
FEEDBACK FROM ANY STATE
LEGISLATION BILLS THAT PASS.
THE TECHNOLOGY IS HERE.
I THINK IT IS WITH URGENCY TO
MOVE FORWARD AND ALSO IN A WAY
TO TAKE IN THAT STAKEHOLDER
ENGAGEMENT.
ALSO MEMBERS OF THE BUILDING
TRADES, SPECIFICALLY YOU A 32
FOR FEEDBACK WITHIN THE LAST 24
HOURS.
AND ALSO ALL THE WORK THAT
FOLKS HAVE BEEN DOING TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER
YEARS WORTH OF DELAY HERE.
I THINK THAT STRIKES A GREAT
BALANCE.
WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
AMENDMENT ONE VERSION 2 TO
COUNSEL BILL 11 9993.
>> THANK YOU.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> I WILL SECOND THE AMENDMENT.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO AMEND THE
LEGISLATION AS SHOWN IN
AMENDMENT ONE.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS, SEEING NO ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> [ ROLL BEING TAKEN ] SPOX-3
IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
THE SECOND AMENDMENT, MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE LEWIS
AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE US TO
DELAY AND LIMITATION OF THE
LEGISLATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL
ENVIRONMENT TO REVIEW.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS HAS AGREED
úTO PULL THIS AMENDMENT AND
CONSIDER SEPARATE LEGISLATION.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT FOR A
MOMENT.
SORT OF RELATED TO OUR PREVIOUS
DISCUSSION ABOUT ACCELERATING
THE LIMITATION IN A LOT OF
THESE CRITICAL CODE UPDATES.
IN CONSULTATION WITH CENTRAL
STAFF AND THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL
OFFICES WE LEARNED THAT IT WILL
PERHAPS REQUIRE, I WANT TO TURN
IT OVER TO YOU WANT IN A SECOND
TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THIS FROM
THE CENTRAL STAFF POINT OF VIEW
AS WELL, THAT THERE WOULD BE
ADDITIONAL CIPRO WORK REQUIRED
TO EXTEND SOME OF THESE
REQUIREMENTS TO ALL COMMERCIAL
BUILDINGS THAT WOULD NECESSITATE
DELAY OF THE UNDERLYING
LEGISLATION FOR AT LEAST AN
ADDITIONAL MONTH AND POSSIBLY
LONGER.
IN THE INTEREST OF ALLOWING US
TO PASS THESE CRITICAL CHANGES
ON THE EXPECTED TIMELINE MY
PLAN IS TO WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT
AND TO SEEK ADDITIONAL
LEGISLATION ON ITS OWN TIMELINE
TO PURSUE PUTTING THESE THE
SAME CODE CHANGES TOWARD
BROADER APPLICABILITY OF
COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. AND IN SO
DOING MAKE SURE THAT PROCESS IS
NOT LIKE AN ANCHOR PULLING
EVERYTHING DOWN IN TERMS OF THE
TIME.
I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I'M
NOT INTERESTED, NECESSARILY, IN
EXPLORING I'M COMMITTING RIGHT
HERE THAT I WILL BE INTRODUCING
ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION, SINCE I
KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF
STAKEHOLDERS AND FOLKS WHO ARE
WATCHING AND REALLY SUPPORTIVE
OF THIS AMENDMENT.
I JUST WANT TO REASSURE
EVERYBODY THAT THE GOAL HERE IS
TO PASS, PASS THIS AS A
SEPARATE BILL.
SO THAT WE DON'T DELAY THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE OTHER
CRITICAL CHANGES. AND THAT I
INTEND TO DO THAT THROUGH
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS'S
COMMITTEE HERE, NOT OVER THE
NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AS WE GO
THROUGH AND ADDITIVE FROM CIBA
PROCESS.
I WILL LET ELANA JUMP INTO
EXPLAIN SOME OF THE TECHNICAL,
MORE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THAT.
THAT IS MY THINKING.
>> THANK YOU.
LOT OF?
>> YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER LOUIS COVERED
THE MOST OF IT.
YES.
BECAUSE THE EXTENSION OF THE
RESTRICTION OF THESE FOSSIL
FUELS FOR WATER HEATING TO
COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WAS NOT A
PART OF THE INITIAL
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, WHICH
ACCOMPANIED THIS LEGISLATION,
IT WILL REQUIRE AN ADDENDUM,
WHICH WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE THIS
ADDITIONAL PROVISION. AS
DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, BUILDING
CODE CHANGES ARE HIGHLY
TECHNICAL, VERY, YOU KNOW,
REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY GET
REALLY INTO THE WEEDS ON
BUILDING DESIGN AND TECHNOLOGY
AND ELECTRICITY AND LOTS OF
REALLY COMPLICATED FACTORS.
HAVING SDCI STAFF ENGAGE IN
THIS PROCESS AND DUE TO THE
EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF OUTREACH
THEY CONDUCTED ON THESE
AMENDMENTS THAT IS ALSO A
FACTOR TO CONSIDER AS THE
COUNCIL CONSIDERS POTENTIAL
FUTURE AMENDMENTS TO THE ENERGY
CODE THERE.
IT'S A COMPLICATED, INTENSIVE
PROCESS FOR STAFF ARE JUST
MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE
UNDERSTANDS THE APPLICATIONS
MOVING FORWARD.
THEY WILL BE IMPORTANT.
YES.
IN TERMS OF THE ADDITIONAL
ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, AS MANY OF
YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, ALONG
WITH CIBA, THERE IS FOLLOWING
THE THRESHOLD DETERMINATION BY
THE ANALYSIS OF SIGNIFICANT,
THERE'LL BE A COMMENT PERIOD,
AN APPEAL PERIOD, AND THEN THE
COUNCIL WILL THEN BE FREE TO
ACT ON THE LEGISLATION.
THAT IS KIND OF THE STANDARD
PROCESS.
THAT IS WHERE THE MINIMUM OF A
MONTH IS JUST TO DO THAT ASPECT
OF THE WORK THAT IS COMING INTO
PLAY.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS WAS WHAT I HAD REFERENCED
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT TO
ENSURE THAT WE ARE ENGAGING THE
CORRECT STAKEHOLDERS, BECAUSE
THIS IS, AGAIN, A CHANGE. WE
DON'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY READY
TO IMPLEMENT TODAY.
THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A FURTHER
DISCUSSION ABOUT. ARE THERE ANY
DISCUSSIONS FROM COLLEAGUES
ABOUT THIS PROCESS OR ABOUT
COUNCIL MEMBER LOUIS'S COMMENTS?
SEEING NONE IS THERE ANY
FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE
UNDERLYING BILL?
SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION OF
THE UNDERLYING BILL I MOVE THAT
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS
PASSAGE OF COUNSEL BILL 119993
AS AMENDED.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> I SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE
BILL AS AMENDED.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLE?
>> [ ROLL BEING TAKEN ]
>> FOUR IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED,
ONE ABSTENTION.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
EMILIO OR MR. ON, CAN YOU
PLEASE REMIND ME ABOUT THE
PROCESS FOR THE BILL MOVING TO
FULL COUNSEL?
AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
LET'S START THEIR.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
CAN YOUR MONEY OF THE PROCESS
OF MOVING TO FULL COUNSEL?
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS
BILL NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN
THE SAME TIMELINE AS THE STATE
CODES.
AND THEN I SEE VICE CHAIRMAN
MOSQUITO HAVE A COMMENT
AFTERWARDS.
>> I WILL DEFER TO IN L.A.
I BELIEVE WITH THE DIVIDED
REPORT THERE IS A ONE-WEEK
DELAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT ABSTENTION
COUNTS AS A DIVIDED REPORT.
>> IT DOES NOT.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
AND ASCENSION DOES NOT EFFECT
THE LEGISLATION BEING
IMMEDIATELY FORWARDED TO THE
NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
>> THANK YOU CLERKS, THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON.
>> I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO
SAY THIS DURING DISCUSSION.
I HAVE A QUESTION WHILE WE HAVE
SOME OF OUR FRIENDS FROM THE
TEAM WHO WORKED ON DRAFTING THE
LEGISLATION IS ON THE LINE
STILL.
I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
CONVERSATIONS, MR. CHAIR, THAT
YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN AND
THIS IS A BIG PRIORITY FOR YOU
AS WELL AS WE THINK ABOUT JUST
TRANSITION. AS WE THINK ABOUT
THE ADVANCE IN NEW HEIGHTS
AROUND OUR CITY THAT ARE
CAUSING POTENTIAL HARM TO OUR
RESIDENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT
HAPPENED IN GREENWOOD A FEW
YEARS AGO. CAN YOU TALK A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ANY
STRATEGIES FROM THE TIMELINE
FOR ADDRESSING THOSE ABANDONED
PIPES AND HOW WE CAN HELP MAKE
SURE THAT THE LICENSED TRADE
FOLKS WHO SHOULD BE DOING THAT
TYPE OF WORK TO DECOMMISSION
THOSE ARE BEING PUT TO WORK?
ANYWAY WE CAN HELP ENSURE THAT
BOTH IS BEING DONE SAFELY, THAT
WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS WAS A CONVERSATION THAT
DURING -- AS HIS BILL CAME
BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE I WAS
LOOKING AT OTHER ISSUES
REGARDING NATURAL GAS LINES.
WE KNOW THAT 50% OF FIRES
DURING SEISMIC EVENTS ARE DUE
TO NATURAL GAS LINES. AS YOU
MENTIONED, COUNCIL MEMBER
MOSQUEDA, THE GREENWOOD
EXPLOSION WAS FROM A
DECOMMISSIONED LINE THAT WE
THOUGHT WAS NOT ACTIVE.
IT WAS IN FACT ACTIVE. I HAVE
ASKED THE QUESTIONS ON HOW WE
CAN ENSURE THAT LICENSED TRADES
ARE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT NATURAL
GAS LINES THAT WE BELIEVE ARE
DECOMMISSIONED ARE TRULY
DECOMMISSIONED. WHEN I DID THE
RESEARCH INTO THIS IT BECAME
CLEARLY APPARENT THAT THIS IS
NOT AN ENERGY CODE.
IT IS IN FACT A FIRE CODE.
I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH OUR
PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR TO ENSURE
THAT WE ARE ABLE TO BRING THE
APPROPRIATE AMENDMENTS, SO THAT
DECOMMISSIONED THE LINES ARE
TRULY DECOMMISSIONED AND THAT
WORK IS COMPLETED BY THE
CORRECT LICENSED PRACTITIONERS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
IF NOT, THANK YOU --
>> MR. CHAIR, CAN I SAY
SOMETHING???
>> YEAH.
>> I WANT TO APOLOGIZE.
I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO VOTE
ON THE CONSTRUCTION VOTE.
I DON'T WAY TO GO HAVE TO BACK
INTO IT.
I WAS GOING TO VOTE YES.
I WILL VOTE YES WE GET DOWN TO
FULL COUNSEL.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE
TECHNICAL THING, JUST SO PEOPLE
KNOW.
MY STAFF IS GOING CRAZY. YOU
DIDN'T VOTE.
EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE MAD AT
YOU.
SO.
>> NOT A PROBLEM.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER MOORE
IS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR
DISCUSSION OF THESE BILLS, BOTH
ENERGY CODE AND CONSTRUCTION
BILL WILL MOVE TO FULL COUNSEL
ON MONDAY.
OUR NEXT I'M OF BUSINESS IS
CLERK FILE 314461, AND
APPLICATION TO EXTEND CONTRACT
FREE ZONE OF -- THIS ITEM IS
BEING CONSIDERED UNDERQUALIFIED
JUDICIAL RULES AND
COMMUNICATIONS WITH PROPONENTS
OR OPPONENTS IS PROHIBITED
OUTSIDE THE ESTABLISHED
PROCESS.
PLEASE READ THE ABBREVIATED
RECORD TITLE INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 314461
APPLICATION OF MARTIN LEE BOY
AT 34th AND STEVIE FOUR
CONTRACT RESULT OF THE PROPERTY
AT 134th AVENUE.
>> THANK YOU.
WE RECEIVED A BRIEFING AND HELD
A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS
APPLICATIONIN DECEMBER.
SINCE IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE
THEN CAN YOU PROVIDE US A BRIEF
REFRESHER?
>> HAPPY TO DO IT.
I SUGGEST WE ALSO READ THE TITLE
OF COUNSEL 199987.
THESE ARE TWO PIECES OF THE
SAME ACTION.
>> PLEASE READ THE ABBREVIATED
TITLE OF COUNSEL BILL 119987
INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 4, COUNSEL BILL
119987 ORDNANCE GROUPING
EXTENSION OF A CONTRACT REZONE
AT 34th AVENUE.
>> AS CHAIRMAN STRAUSS
MENTIONED, THIS IS A SECOND
BRIEFING ON CONTRACT EXTENSION
REQUESTED BY MARTIN LIEBOWITZ.
I WILL BRIEFLY RUN THROUGH SOME
LEGISLATIVE HISTORY HERE AND
DESRIBE WHAT COUNTS OF 119987
WOULD DO.
SO, AS THE COMMITTEE WILL
RECALL IN 2017 THE COUNCIL PASS
ORDNANCE 125433. THAT ORDNANCE
SUBS OWNED 11,000 SQUARE FOOT
SITE LOCATED IN MADRONA FROM
THE REST 2 TO NEIGHBORHOOD
COMMERCIAL ONE WITH A 30 FOOT
HIGH INLET AND AFFORDABILITY
HOUSING SUFFIX.
PROPERTY SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE UP ZONE.
UNLIKE MANY CONTRACTOR HE ZONE,
BUT NOT ALL, THAT UP ZONE WAS
NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.
IT WAS JUST A RESULT OF THE
PROPERTY.
IN 2018 THE COUNCIL PASS
ORDNANCE 125791, WHICH
IMPLEMENTED MANDATORY HOUSING
AFFORDABILITY PROGRAMS
CITYWIDE.
THAT ORDNANCE OF ZONE ADJACENT
COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY
PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO
THE SUBJECT SITE.
OF THE PANDEMIC AND CHANGE IN
DEVELOPMENT CLIMATE IS FORCING
MR. LEIBOWITZ'S PLANS TO
DEVELOP THE SITE.
MR. LEIBOWITZ APPLIED OVER THE
SUMMER TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF HIS
ORIGINAL RESUME BY TWO YEARS.
IN OCTOBER SDCI RECOMMENDED
APPROVAL OF THEIR EXTENSION.
IN DECEMBER THE COMMITTEE WAS
BRIEFED AND HELD A HEARING ON
THE EXTENSION.
THAT'S LEGISLATIVE HISTORY.
WHAT DOES THIS DO?
IF IT WERE APPROVED BY THE
COUNSELOR WITHSTAND THE REZONE
FOR TWO YEARS AND EXCEPT AN
AMENDMENT TO THE PROPERTIES AND
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO
REFLECT THE TWO YEAR EXTENSION.
IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE, MECHANICAL
COUNSEL BILL.
UNLESS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT IT I WILL TURN
IT BACK TO YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT REFRESHER.
LIZ ATKINSON, I SEE YOU HAVE
YOUR HAND RAISED.
I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT IS
INTENTIONAL.
I SEE THE HAND HAS BEEN
LOWERED.
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO WE HAVE
QUESTIONS ON CLERK FILE 314461?
NOT SING ANY QUESTIONS, CAN YOU
REMIND US OF THE SDCI
RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS
APPLICATION?
>> YOU WILL FIND IN THAT CLERK
FILE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM
SDCI. IT WAS ISSUED IN
OCTOBER.
THE RECOGNITION IS TO EXTEND
THE REZONE FOR TWO YEARS.
THERE ARE SOME CRITERIA THAT
THE COUNCIL AND SDCI USES IN
MAKING A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER
OR NOT THE CONTRACT REZONE,
THAT'S A REASONABLE BASIS FOR
THE APPLICATION, WHETHER OR NOT
THAT IS REASONABLE FOR THE
CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE
AREA.
SUPPORTS AN EXTENSION AND
WHETHER THE ADDITIONAL TIME
REQUESTED IS NECESSARY TO
COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS OF
APPROVAL.
SDCI'S RECORDATION IS BASED ON
THOSE THREE FACTORS.
AS I MENTIONED IN THE
INTRODUCTION, THERE ARE TWO
THAT WERE NOTED BY SDCI AND THE
APPLICANT. ONE IS THE PANDEMIC
AND ALSO THE CHANGED
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAS FOUR-
STORY DEPARTMENT OF THE SITE.
>> THANK YOU MR. FREEMAN.
CAN YOU PROVIDE US WITH THE
RESIDUAL NEXT STEPS IF WE PASS
THIS TODAY?
>> SURE.
IF YOU PASS THIS TODAY AND YOU
WANT TO CONSIDER IT THIS COMING
MONDAY WE WILL NEED TO HAVE AN
EXECUTED [ INDISCERNIBLE ] FROM
THE APPLICANT, MR. LEIBOWITZ.
AND HAVE THAT IN THE HANDS OF
THE CLERK BY TOMORROW, SO THAT
YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE IT AT FULL
COUNSEL PRIOR TO FULL COUNSEL
VOTING ON THE COMMITTEES
RECOMMENDATION.
>> THANK YOU.
DO WE BELIEVE THIS IS, WELL, I
GUESS I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE
APPLICANTS.
>> I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION
WIH THEM AND THEY ARE AWARE OF
THE TIMELINE.
WE ARE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT
THE COMMITTEE DOES TODAY.
>> WONDERFUL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION,
COLLEAGUES?
SEEING NONE.
I MOVE THAT COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION
AND PASSAGE OF CLERK FILE
314469.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MID MOVED AND
SECONDED.
CLERK FILE PASSAGE.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLE.
>> [ ROLL BEING TAKEN ]
>> THE MOTION CARRIES.
NOW WE CAN MOVE TO OUR FINAL
ITEM, COUNSEL BILL 1198987
WHICH OPPONENTS THE COMPLEMENT
REZONE EXTENSION WE JUST
APPROVED.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL FACTS
OR PIECES OF INFORMATION WE
SHOULD KNOW BEFORE VOTING?
>> I HAVE DESCRIBED THE COUNSEL
BILL.
AS A MENTIONED, IT'S PRETTY
MECHANICAL AND EXTENDS THE
CONTRACT REZONE FOR TWO YEARS.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS
BILL?
SEEING NONE I MOVE THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF
COUNSEL BILL 119987.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> [ ROLL BEING TAKEN ] THE
MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU ALL.
THE CLERK FILE AND COUNSEL WILL
BE BACK ON MONDAY SHOULD THE
APPLICANT SUBMIT THEIR [
INDISCERNIBLE ]. IF THERE ARE
NO ITEMS FOR THE GOOD OF THE
ORDER, SING NONE, THIS
CONCLUDES THE WEDNESDAY JANUARY
27th 2020 MEETING OF THE LAND-
USE COMMITTEE.
OF EVERY 10th MEETING WILL BE
CANCELED.
OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING WILL
BE ON FEBRUARY 24th STARTING AT
9:30 A.M.
THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.