>>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
THE MARCH 3, 2021 MEETING OF
THE TRANSPORTATION UTILITIES
COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER.
THE TIME IS 9:30 A.M.
I'M ALEX PEDERSEN.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> PRESENT.
>> FOUR PRESENT.
>> AND I DO SEE COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ IS PRESENT.
WE'LL MARK HER AS PRESENT AND
THEN I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ IS
UNABLE TO ATTEND OUR MEETING
TODAY.
HER ABSENCE IS EXCUSED.
MANY THANKS TO COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ FOR FILLING IN TODAY FOR
US.
WE'VE GOT A BIG AGENDA TODAY.
WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC SPEAKERS
REGARDING THE AGENDA IF THERE'S
NO OBJECTION TO TODAY'S
PROPOSED AGENDA WILL BE
ADOPTED.
HEARING NO OBJECTION THE AGENDA
IS ADOPTED.
THE FIRST TWO ITEMS ARE
RELATIVELY MINOR.
ONE IS GRANTING AN EASEMENT TO
THE CITY OF KIRKLAND TO
COMPLETE A PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE
PATH.
THAT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING
WHICH WE WILL HAVE TODAY SO WE
CAN VOTE ON THE ITEM AT OUR
NEXT MEETING.
THE SECOND ITEM IS THE CREATION
OF A SMALL PUBLIC PATH AND
PLAZA WHICH IMPACTS SOME
PARKING PACES IN THE EAST LAKE
NEIGHBORHOOD OF DISTRICT 4. THE
LARGER ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA
INCLUDE ALLOCATING ONE TIME
RESERVE FUNDING LEFT OVER FROM
OUR 2014 TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT
DISTRICT FOR APPROVED PROJECT
THES.
WE'LL DISCUSS THREE COUNCIL
BILLS TO APPROVE EXISTING
TECHNOLOGIES USED BY THREE
DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS.
TECHNICALLY APPROVING THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORTS.
WE WILL NOT VOTE ON THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT
BILLS TODAY.
WE'LL VOTE ON THEM AS EARLY AS
OUR NEXT MEETING MARCH 17th.
BUT TODAY WE CAN GET THE
INFORMATION AND ASK QUESTIONS.
IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION TO
DIGEST.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE
REMOTE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD.
AS WE OPERATE THIS SYSTEM.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FINE
TUNE THIS PROCESS OF PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION.
REMAINS THE STRONG INTENT OF
CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE PUBLIC
COMMENT.
CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT
TO MODIFY THESE IF WE DEEM THE
SYSTEM IS BEING ABUSED OR IS
UNSUITABLE FOR ALLOWING OUR
MEETINGS TO BE CONDUCTED
EFFICIENTLY AND IN A MANNER IN
WHICH WE'RE ABLE TO CONDUCT OUR
NECESSARY BUSINESS.
I WILL MODERATE THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD IN THE FOLLOWING
MANNER.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THIS
MEETING IS UP TO 20 MINUTES AND
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO
MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I WILL CALL ON THE SPEAKER'S
TWO AT A TIME AND IN THE ORDER
IN WHICH REGISTERED ON THE
COUNCIL'S WEBSITE.
IF YOU'VE NOT YET REGISTERED TO
SPEAK BUT WOULD LIKE TO YOU CAN
SIGN UP BEFORE THE END OF THIS
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD BY GOING
TO THE COUNCIL WEBSITE.
PUBLIC COMMENT LINK IS LISTED
ON TODAY'S COMMITTEE AGENDA.
ONCE I CALL A SPEAKER'S NAME,
STAFF WILL UNMUTE THE
APPROPRIATE MICROPHONE AND AN
AUTOMATIC PROMPT OF YOU HAVE
BEEN UNMUTED WILL BE THE
SPEAKER'S CUE THAT IT'S THEIR
TURN TO SPEAK.
THE SPEAKER MUST PRESS STAR 6
TO BEGIN SPEAKING.
PLEASE BEGIN SPEAKING BY
STATING YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM
YOU ARE ADDRESSING.
AS A REMINDER, PUBLIC COMMENT
SHOULD RELATE TO AN ITEM ON
TODAY'S AGENDA.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
TEN SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THE A
LOTTED TIME.
ONCE YOU HEAR THE CHIME WE ASK
YOU WRAP IT UP AND IF YOU DON'T
END YOUR COMMENTS AT THE TIME
THAT'S A LOTTED THE SPEAKER'S
MICROPHONE WILL BE MUTED TO
ALLOW US TO CALL ON THE NEXT
SPEAKER.
ONCE YOU'VE COMPLETED YOUR
COMMENT WE ASK THAT YOU
DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE AND
YOU CAN STILL LISTEN TO US VIA
SEATTLE CHANNEL.
IF YOU'RE CALLING ABOUT THE
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT EASEMENT TO
THE CITY OF KIRKLAND, PLEASE
WAIT UNTIL LATER IN THE AGENDA
FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT
ITEM.
THE REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD FOR THIS COMMITTEE
MEETING IS NOW OPEN AND WE WILL
úBEGIN WITH THE FIRST SPEAKER O
THE LIST.
WE HAVE KELSEY FOLLOWED BY
PHILIP.
GO AHEAD, KELSEY.
>> GOOD MORNING,
COUNCILMEMBERS.
THIS IS KELSEY FROM
TRANSPORTATION CHOICES
COALITION SPEAKING ABOUT THE
VEHICLE LICENSING FEE SPEND
PLAN.
TRANSPORTATION CHOICES WAS ONE
RGANIZATION AND PART OF A
BROAD COALITION ACROSS THE
STATE WE FOUGHT VERY HARD TO
DEFEAT I 976 CAMPAIGN IN 2018.
WE OBVIOUSLY LOST AT THE BALLOT
BUT THANKFULLY THE CITY TOOK
SWIFT ACTION TO ENSURE THAT THE
VITAL VEHICLE LICENSING FEES
WERE STILL COLLECTED AND
PROTECTED WHILE LEGAL ACTION
WAS PURSUED.
A FEW MONTHS AGO I-976 WAS
DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
I'M THANKFUL TO BE HERE TODAY
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORTOF THE
SPEND PLAN FOR THE $23.7
MILLION IN ONE TIME FUNDS THAT
WERE COLLECTED FROM DECEMBER
2019 THROUGH 2020.
SDOT CONSULTED TO MOVE SEATTLE
LEVY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ON HOW
TO DIRECT THESE ONE TIME FUNDS.
THE DEPARTMENT HEARD FEEDBACK
THAT THE FUND SHOULD BE SPENT
FIRST ON TRANSIT SPECIFIC
PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS AND THEN
ON PROJECTS WITH A STRONG
TRANSIT COMPONENT.
THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION DOES
THAT.
THE PLAN WILL RESTORE TRANSIT-
RELATED CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT
HAD TO BE REDUCED OR CANCELED
BECAUSE OF BUDGET REDUCTIONS.
IT WILL HELP FUND ESSENTIAL
TRANSIT SERVICE THIS YEAR AND
IT WILL ALSO HELP BUILD BACK
THE RESERVE FUNDING FOR TRANSIT
SERVICE.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THE FUTURE IS
UNPREDICTABLE AND SO ENSURING
WE HAVE RESERVES TO PROVIDE
STABLE SERVICE DURING SUCH
TIMES IS CRITICAL.
WE ALL KNOW THAT TRANSIT
ESSENTIAL.
IT HAS SUSTAINED OUR CITY AND
FRONTLINE WORKERS THROUGH THE
PANDEMICIC.
TRANSIT HAS STRONG PUBLIC
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS PLAN
TOGETHER AND WE WANT TO JUST
SHOW OUR SUPPORT.
THANKS SO MUCH.
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE PHILIP
FOLLOWED BY RACHEL.
GO AHEAD.
>> HELLO.
MY NAME IS PHILIP.
I'M A RESIDENT OF EAST LAKE AND
A COFOUNDER OF THE GROUP
WELCOMING EAST LAKE.
AND I'M GIVING PUBLIC COMMENT
TO OPPOSE RESOLUTION 31988
WHICH WILL TAKE 29 PUBLIC
PARKING SPACES AND TURN THEM
INTO 16 PRIVATE PARKING SPACES.
WE ABSOLUTELY DO NEED TO DO
SOMETHING BETTER WITH THE SPACE
BESIDES USE IT TO STORE
VEHICLES, HOWEVER THIS PLAN
DOESN'T DO THAT.
IT JUST TURNS OVER THE LOT TO A
WEALTHY LANDOWNER FOR THE
PRIVATE USE OF THEIR VEHICLES
FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES AND
CUSTOMERS.
LET ME REPEAT THAT.
WE TURN OVER THIS LOT TO
WEALTHY LANDOWNERS FOR THE
PRIVATE USE OF THEIR OWN
VEHICLES.
THE RESULTING PLAZA THAT WE GET
IN RETURN IS NOT, IT'S GOING TO
BE SURROUNDED BY PARKED CARS.
IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE BOTTOM
OF A SET OF STAIRS.
ANYBODY WHO NEEDS TO USE
MOBILITY DEVICE WILL HAVE TO
ROLL ALL THE WAY AROUND THREE
BLOCKS TO GET TO IT FROM THE
PLACE WHERE PEOPLE NORMALLY ARE
CONGREGATING AT THE TOP OF THE
STAIRS.
AND IT'S SEPARATED ALSO FROM IT
RESIDENTS BY THESE VERY OFFICE
BUILDINGS THAT GET TO USE THE
PARKING WE TURN OVER TO THEM.
ALL OF THE HOUSING AND ALL THAT
SORT OF STUFF IS ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THESE OFFICE BUILDINGS
BASICALLY TURNS IT INTO A NICE
LITTLE SURROUNDED LUNCH AND
BREAK AREA FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF
THE PLACES.
WHICH THAT'S KIND OF NICE.
FOR THEM.
I THE LONG TERM WE SHOULD DO
SOMETHING MUCH BETTER WITH
THIS.
TURN IT INTO A PARK.
PUT IT N SOME PUB RESTROOMS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO
WITH THIS, BUT SOMETHING BETTER
THAN PARKING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT UP WE HAVE RACHEL FOLLOWED
BY CYNTHIA.
GO AHEAD, RACHEL.
RACHEL.
PRESS STAR 6.
LET'S GO NEXT WITH CYNTHIA AND
THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO RACHEL.
CYNTHIA.
PLEASE PRESS STAR 6 AND GO
AHEAD.
>> HI.
I'M CYNTHIA.
AN INDEPENDENT SECURITY
RESEARCHER AND DISTRICT 6
RESIDENT.
MY COMMENTS ARE ON THE
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES.
I'VE READ ALL THE SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT REPORTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS
AND PRIVACY AND CIVIL LIBERTIES
IMPACT ASSESSMENTS.
MY EXPERIENCE WORKING IN BIG
TECH AIDS MY ANALYSIS.
I SENT WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS
BY THREE E-MAILS.
FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHTS CURRENT
DIVERSION TECHNOLOGIES.
EQUITY ANALYSIS, LACK OF
WRITTEN POLICY AND ACCESS.
FOR SEETHE -- EXERCISIVE DATA
RETENTION, BROAD DATA SHARING,
SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION, CYBER
SECURITY AND RACIAL BIAS
ANALYSIS.
THE ISSUES WITH THE SPD
TECHNOLOGIES ARE MORE SEVERE.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THE
SERVICE BEING POSTED AS OPPOSED
TO ON PREMISE WHICH IS
SUPPORTED.
COP LOGIC IS THE RESULT OF A
MERGER BETWEEN THREE DATA
BROKERS.
OTHER PROBLEMS SPAN CYBER
SECURITY DATA REINVENTION,
AUDITING AND PRIVACY POLICY
COVERAGE.
THESE WOULD BE MINIMIZED.
FOR AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE
READERS FOR PATROL THE MOST
GLARING ISSUE IS RETENTION OF
DATA FOR LICENSE PLATES THAT
ARE NOT A MATCH LIST TO A HOT
LIST.
CYBER SECURITY, POLICY, AUDIT,
DATA SHARING.
THE SEVERITY OF THESE ISSUES
WOULD BE REDUCED IF SPD SIMPLY
OPERATED LIKE NEW HAMPSHIRE AND
DIDN'T RETAIN DATA THAT DIDN'T
HIT.
THIS SYSTEM IS MASS LOCATION
SURVEILLANCE OF ALMOST
EXCLUSIVELY INNOCENT
INDIVIDUALS.
GIVEN THAT PARKING ENFORCEMENT
WAS HANDED OFF AND 911
OPERATIONS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO
CIVILIAN CONTROL, THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT AND 911 LOGGING
RECORDER ARE ALL OUT OF DATE.
THEY ARE NO LONGER ON THE SPD
NETWORK OR ADMINISTRATION.
APPROVING SUCH AS IS ENABLES
SUBSTANTIATION OF THESE
DEPARTMENTS.
PLEASE SEE MY PRIOR E-MAILS FOR
THE FULL DETAILS.
PLEASE DON'T RUBBER STAMP
THESE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
NOW LET'S GO BACK TO RACHEL.
RACHEL?
ARE YOU THERE?
IF SO PLEASE PRESS STAR 6 AND
LET US KNOW YOUR COMMENTS.
OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE LAST
SPEAKER ON THE LIST AND WE'LL
GIVE RACHEL ONE MORE SHOT AT
THE END.
KIMBERLY.
PLEASE PRESS STAR 6 AND GO
AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
I LIVE ON CAPITAL HILL AND I
EARLY MORNING YOU TO VOTE NO ON
RESOLUTION 31988.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GIVE AWAY
OF VALUABLE PUBLIC SPACE THAT
SHOULD BE PUT TO BETTER FULL
PUBLIC USE.
HOUSING, SOCIAL SERVICE
FACILITIES OR GREEN SPACE OR
SOMETHING ELSE.
THE MEAGER OFFERING OF PARTIAL
PAYMENT FOR A TINY PLAZA THAT
WILL OFFER PEOPLE A VIEW OF A
PARKING LOT IS PRETTY MUCH
LAUGHABLE AND SHOULD NOT BE
CONSIDERED AN AMENITY.
IT'S TIME TO STOP GIVING AWAY
VALUABLE PUBLIC ASSETS FOR
PRIVATE USE, ESPECIALLY FOR
PARKING.
WE ALREADY HAVE FIVE OFFSTREET
PARKING SPACES PER HOUSEHOLD IN
SEATTLE AND ACCORDING TO THE
MOST RECENT U.S. CENSUS MEASURE
ALMOST 20% OF US LIVING HERE
DON'T EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO A CAR
SO IT'S JUST TO USE IT FOR
PARKING IS JUST KIND OF ABSURD
AND NOT EQUITABLE.
SO AGAIN I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO
ON THIS RESOLUTION AND USE THAT
SPACE FOR BETTER FULLY PUBLIC
USE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
OUR LAST SPEAKER IS RACHEL.
>> OKAY.
CAN -- I AM HERE.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO UNMUTE MYSELF.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
>> YES.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
SO I AM COCHAIR OF THE MOVE
SEATTLE LEVY OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE AND I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I'M COMMENTING ON THE 23.7
MILLION IN REVENUE THAT HAS
BEEN HELD IN RESERVE AND BECOME
AVAILABLE TO USE ONCE THE
SUPREME COURT OVERTURNS I-976
LAST OCTOBER.
THE MOVE SEATTLE LEVY OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE SUPPORTS THE CITY
COUNCIL DIRECTING 12.7 MILLION
OF THE FUNDS.
TO TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS
BECAUSE THESE HAVE BEEN REDUCED
OR CANCELED AS PART OF THE 2020
BUDGET REDUCTIONS.
THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ALLOW MORE
LEVY PROJECTS TO GET STARTED OR
GET BACK ON TRACK.
IT SUPPORTS OUR LEVY PORTFOLIO
BY MEETING MORE OF THE LEVY
DELIVERABLES.
SDOT STAFF DID CONSULT WITH THE
MOVE SEATTLE LEVY OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE ON HOW TO DIRECT
THESE FUNDS.
EXAMPLES ARE PHASE 3 OF THE
23rd AVENUE PROJECT AND ROUTE
40 TRANSIT PLUS MULTIMODAL
PROJECT.
WHICH ARE ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE
TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS CONCLUDES OUR LIST OF
SPEAKERS FROM THE GENERAL
PUBLIC.
NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE
FIRST LEGISLATIVE ITEM ON OUR
AGENDA.
WILL THE CLERK READ THE SHORT
TITLE OF THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM
INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 1. COUNCIL BILL
120008.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT AUTHORIZE
THE GENERAL MANAGER AND CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER TO RELEASE A
TRANSMISSION CORRIDOR EASEMENT
TO THE CITY OF KIRKLAND.
FOR PUBLIC HEARING, BRIEFING
AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS, YEAH, THIS MEASURE
FACILITATES CONSTRUCTION OF
PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE PATH ON
THE EAST SIDE RAIL TO TRAIL
PROJECT AND THE BILL ALLOWS
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT TO CONVEY AN
EASEMENT TO THE CITY OF
KIRKLAND IN EXCHANGE FOR FAIR
MARKET VALUE PAYMENT.
THIS ITEM DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC
HEARING.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE
PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND THEN
WE'LL HEAR FROM CENTRAL STAFF
ANALYST ERIC McCONAGHY AND
DEBRA SMITH AND THERE'LL BE A
PRESENTATION.
THE PRESENTATION IS ALREADY
ONLINE SO THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS
ARE MOST LIKELY REFERRING TO
WHAT'S ALREADY ONLINE.
WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER FOR THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
LET ME JUST OPEN IT OFFICIALLY
HERE.
ONE MOMENT.
BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARING I'D LIKE TO REMIND THE
PUBLIC THE SAME PROCEDURES WE
USED FOR THE REGULAR COMMITTEE
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE
APPLIED COMMENTERS DURING THIS
PUBLIC HEARING.
IN SHORT, TWO MINUTES EACH,
PLEASE USE STAR 6 TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF.
THERE'LL BE A 10 SECOND WARNING
CHIME.
THE PUBLIC HEARING ON COUNCIL
BILL 120008 IS NOW OPEN AND
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST
SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
WE ACTUALLY JUST HAVE ONE
SPEAKER SO FAR.
SO JAY ARNOLD.
WELCOME.
LET'S HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
I'M JAY ARNOLD.
DEPUTY MAYOR OF KIRKLAND AND
VICE CHAIR OF THE EAST TRAIL
REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK TODAY TO EXPRESS THE
CITY OF KIRKLAND'S APPRECIATION
FINISH THE CITY OF SEATTLE
WORKING WITH US TO MAKE THE
TRANSACTION A REALITY IN
SUPPORT OF AN IMPORTANT PROJECT
IN KIRKLAND'S URBAN CENTER.
EXPERIENCING EXPLOSIVE GROWTH
AND REDEVELOPMENT AND TO HELP
PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY
TO SERVE THIS AREA KIRKLAND IS
CONSTRUCTING A $22 MILLION
NONMOTORIZED BRIDGE TO IMPROVE
ACCESS AND USE OF THE CORRIDOR,
PART OF THE REGIONAL TRAIL
SYSTEM.
THE BRIDGE IS KEY TO CONNECTING
THE CORRIDOR AND THE BROADER
EAST TRAIL TO THE TRAIL.
IN YOUR PACKET IS A RENDERING
THAT SHOWS THE BRIDGE WHICH
SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN 2022.
ONE OF THE FOOTINGS FOR THE
BRIDGE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT EASEMENT AND
THIS ALLOWS THAT FOOTING TO
REMAIN IN PLACE.
WE ALSO WANT TO THANK DEBRA
SMITH, GENERAL MANAGER OF
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT AND HER
STAFF FOR WORKING
COLLABORATIVELY WITH STAFF TO
MAKE THIS A REALITY ENSURING
THAT BOTH TRANSPORTATION AND
ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE WORK
EFFECTIVELY IN THE SAME
LOCATION.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
CALLING IN IT.
WE APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER
PRESENT AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING
SO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
COUNCIL BILL 120008 IS NOW
CLOSED.
AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HEAR
FIRST FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL
ANALYST ERIC McCONAGHY.
WHO I THINK WILL WANT TO TURN
OVER TO DEBRA SMITH AND HER
TEAM.
>> YEP.
VERY MUCH SO.
GOOD MORNING.
AS YOU SAID I'M ERIC McCONAGHY.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD TO
WHAT YOU'VE SAID AND WHAT THE
SPEAKER SAID OTHER THAN TO NOTE
IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE
SUMMARY AND FISCAL NOTE.
A PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT
ACCOMPANIES EVERY PIECE OF
LEGISLATION TO THE COUNCIL.
THEY'RE OFFERED BY PEOPLE IN
THE DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS CITY
LIGHT OR FOLKS LIKE MYSELF.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CHANGE
THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR.
CLIMATE RESILIENCY IS A BIG
DEAL AND COUNCIL WITH YOUR
LEADERSHIP, CHANGED THE
REQUIREMENT FORMAT.
THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF
SHOWING IN THE NOTE HOW THIS
TRAIL SHOULD THIS BILL PASS
WILL ASSIST WITH CLIMATE
RESILIENCY.
PROVIDING AN ALTERNATE
TRANSPORTATION ROUTE.
IT MAY SEEM TO BE A FOOTNOTE.
I THINK IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF
THINGS TO COME AND A GOOD
EXAMPLE OF THE USE OF THAT
CHANGE.
SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING IT
UP.
>> YOU'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS DURING THIS, ALTHOUGH
I'M HOPING THIS ITEM WILL GO
QUICKLY SINCE WE HAVE SUCH A
LONG AGENDA.
I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO
GENERAL MANAGER OF CITY LIGHT
DEBRA SMITH.
ú>> I THINK WE IN FACT
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN WE CAN
MAKE UP SOME TIME HERE.
I WANT TO THANK MR. ARNOLD AND
THE CITY OF KIRKLAND FOR
WORKING WITH US ON THIS.
THIS IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF
WHERE WE THE CITY AND CITY
LIGHT NEED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH
FAST GROWING EAST SIDE
COMMUNITIES ON THEIR
DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS IN ORDER TO
PROTECT OUR CRITICAL
TRANSMISSION CORRIDOR.
SO THE POINT HERE IS THAT BOTH
ARE POSSIBLE IF IT WE WORK
COLLABORATIVELY AND CREATIVELY
TO DEVELOP SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW
US ALL TO MOVE FORWARD AND
PROTECT FOR THE FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU AND JUST I'LL
INTRODUCE STAFF AND MEET.
I HAVE TOM DEBOER, OUR OFFICER
OF ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS AND
LICENSING.
BILL DEVERAUX.
I'M TERRIBLE WITH TITLES.
BILL DOES SOMETHING THAT'S
MOSTLY ABOUT, HE DOES
COMPLIANCE AND REAL ESTATE.
AND GREG SANCEWICH, I ALWAYS
GIVE EVERY TIME I REMIND HIM HE
CAME TO WORK FOR US FROM SOUND
TRANSIT, WENT BACK TO SOUND
TRANSIT THEN CAME BACK TO US.
I THINK HIS VALUE IS IMPORTANT
BECAUSE HE DOES UNDERSTAND THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE
TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST
EXAMPLE WHERE WE'VE BEEN ABLE
TO SUCCESSFULLY WORK THROUGH AN
ISSUE AT LEAST IN PART DUE TO
GREG AND BILL'S INVOLVEMENT.
TOM WASN'T HERE.
AND LASTLY, OF COURSE, MAW ARE
BRUEGER WHO KEEPS US ALL ON
TRACK.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ THANK YOU
FOR JOINING US SO WE CAN GET
THIS IMPORTANT PIECE OF WORK
THROUGH.
THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING.
TODAY'S ACTION REQUESTS
AUTHORIZATION TO RELEASE A
PORTION OF CITY LIGHT'S
TRANSMISSION.
LINE EASEMENT LOCATING
KIRKLAND.
THE PORTION OF THE EASEMENT
RELEASE IS FOR THE SURFACE
RIGHTS.
IT ALLOWS FOR THE TOTEM LIGHT
CONNECTOR WHICH IS THIS OVER
HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE
YOU'LL SEE IN THE PRESENTATION.
THIS BRIDGE STRUCTURE THAT
SPANS.
IT'S PART OF THE LARGER EAST
SIDE TRAIL CONNECTION.
ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.
YOU'LL SEE THE LARGER CORRIDOR
THAT RUNS BETWEEN RENTON AND UP
INTO SNOHOMISH COUNTY.
YOU CAN SEE A RENDERING HAS A
DEPICTION OF WHERE OUR TOWER
IS.
THAT'S THE WESTERN EDGE OF OUR
EASESMENT CORRIDOR.
PORTION RELEASES FOR
APPROXIMATELY 24,000 SQUARE
FEET.
REQUIRE THE CITY OF KIRKLAND TO
MAKE A ONE TIME PAYMENT OF
$19,500.
THE COOPERATION EFFORTS PUT
TOGETHER BY BOTH CITY OF
KIRKLAND AND CITY LIGHT ALLOWED
US TO PRESERVE THE SAFE AND
RELIABLE DISTRIBUTION OF OUR
ELECTRICITY AND ALSO A SAFE AND
RELIABLE OPTION FOR TRAIL
USERS.
SEPARATED CROSSING FOR
NONMOTORIZED USE ALLOWS A
CONNECTION FOR THE REGIONAL
TRAIL SYSTEM.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE HAVE
TODAY FOR OUR PRESENTATION.
HOPEFULLY IT'S CLEAR.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ, THIS IS
NOT IN YOUR DISTRICT BUT I HOPE
THAT YOU SUPPORT IT.
YOU HAVE YOUR AWESOME
PEDESTRIAN BIKE PATH.
WHICH IS COMING ALONG SO WELL
OVER I-5. THANK YOU FOLKS FROM
CITY LIGHT FOR SHARING THIS
WITH US.
COUNCILMEMBERS DO YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT
THIS POTENTIAL EASEMENT WHICH
WE'LL ACTUALLY VOTE ON IN THE
NEXT MEETING?
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST NOTING THAT SOMETIMES IT
IS THAT ONE VERY SMALL
CONNECTION THAT CAN UNLOCK SO
MUCH OF OUR MULTIMODAL TRAILS.
WITH THIS CONNECTION YOU AND I
WILL BE ABLE TO BIKE FROM MY
DISTRICT THROUGH YOUR DISTRICT
THROUGH COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ'
DISTRICT AND GET TO KIRKLAND
SAFE AND SEPARATED.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT NOTE.
APPRECIATE THAT.
I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR
GREG.
ABOUT THE PAYMENT WE WILL
RECEIVE FROM KIRKLAND.
ARE THESE GOING TO BE
RESTRICTED RATE PAYER FUNDS?
ARE THEY GOING TO THE GENERAL
FUND?
WHAT IS THEIR USE AND HOW DOES
IT BENEFIT CITY LIGHT?
>> PROCEEDS FROM ANY
DISPOSITIONS --
>> JUST ALSO UNDERSTANDING
$19,000 IN THE SCOPE OF CITY
LIGHT'S BUDGET IS NOT A LOT.
STILL WE KNOW IT CAN HELP IN
CERTAIN WAYS.
ARE THERE PROJECTS THAT IT'S
GOING TO HELP FUND OR IS IT
JUST GOING FOR GENERAL FUND
USE?
>> YEAH.
SO CITY LIGHT FUND BREEDS ANY
SURPLUSSING DISPOSITION WE
RECEIVE FROM THOSE ACTIONS WILL
GO INTO CITY LIGHT'S GENERAL
FUND.
THOSE FUNDS HELP OFFSET RATE
PAYER COSTS FOR OTHER PROJECTS
WE HAVE ON GOING.
THE $19,500 IS NOT A LARGE
AMOUNT BUT IT IS AN AMOUNT THAT
HELPS US FURTHER DEFER ANY
OTHER RATE INCREASES OR IMPACTS
TO RATE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR
TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU.
YOU MAY HAVE COVERED THIS.
CAN YOU TALK A BIT ABOUT
WHETHER AND HOW ACCESS IS
MAINTAINED IN CASE SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT NEEDS IT?
>> YEAH.
LET ME BRING THIS BACK UP.
SO IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE
RENDERING IF I CAN SHARE THIS
FOR YOU.
THE ACCESS BECAUSE OF WHERE
IT'S LOCATED IT'S ACTUALLY IN A
PORTION OF THE TOTEM LAKE
SENSITIVE AREA.
WHERE THE LANDING IS.
OUR TRUCKS CAN'T GO TO WHERE
THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE IS.
SO THERE'S ENOUGH
INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND AROUND
THE TOWER.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE KEY
COMPONENTS OF THIS WHOLE
COORDINATION.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT PRESERVED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION.
COUNCILMEMBERS, ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
WELL THANKS, EVERYBODY FROM
CITY LIGHT FOR BEING HERE AND
ERIC, APPRECIATE IT.
WE WILL VOTE ON THIS EASEMENT
IN OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING.
WE HAVE THIS TODAY FOR OUR
PUBLIC HEARING AND THE
PRESENTATION.
SO ON MARCH 17th THIS WILL BE
VOTED ON QUICKLY, I WOULD
ASSUME.
THANKS, EVERYBODY.
WILL THE CLERK READ THE TITLE
OF THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM INTO
THE RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM TWO.
RESOLUTION 31988.
A RESOLUTION GRANTING
CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL TO
CONSTRUCT, MAINTAIN AND OPERATE
A PRIVATE PARKING AREA ON EAST
HOWE STREET EAST OF FAIRVIEW
AVENUE EAST AS PROPOSED BY BSOP
1 LLC AS PART OF DEVELOPING A
PUBLIC PLAZA IN UNOPENED RIGHT
OF WAY IN THE EASTLAKE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
FOR BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS RESOLUTION IS GRANTING A
TERM LIMITED PERMIT THAT WOULD
BASICALLY, THE CONCEPT OF A
TERM LIMITED PERMIT THAT WOULD
CREATE A SMALL PUBLIC PLAZA
WHERE A HANDFUL OF PARKING
SPACES CURRENTLY EXIST.
I WENT OUT AND VISITED THIS
SITE A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AND APPRECIATE THE DEPARTMENT
AND NEIGHBORHOODS RUNNING THEIR
PUBLIC PROCESS.
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM LISH
FROM CENTRAL STAFF AND THEN
FROM THE DEPARTMENTS AND I
THINK SOME FOLKS FROM THE
COMMUNITY.
SO LISH IF YOU DON'T MIND
STARTING US OFF.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR MEMO.
>> SURE.
LISH WHITSON.
THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD
GRANT CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL OF A
TERM PERMIT.
TERM PERMITS GENERALLY RUN FOR
10 TO 15 YEARS.
AND OFTEN CAN BE RENEWED.
IN MAKING YOUR DECISION ON
WHETHER OR NOT TO GRANT
CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL THE CODE
LAYS OUT TEN DIFFERENT CRITERIA
INCLUDED IN MY MEMO.
INCLUDING WHETHER OR NOT THERE
WOULD BE INTERRUPTION OR
INTERFERENCE WITH EXISTING
STREETSCAPE OR OTHER STREET
AMENITIES.
AFFECT ON PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.
AFFECT ON COMMERCE AND
ENJOYMENT OF NEIGHBORING LAND
USES.
THE AVAILABILITY OF REASONABLE
ALTERNATIVES.
SO AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS
RESOLUTION AND HEARING
PRESENTATION, PLEASE KEEP IN
MIND THOSE CRITERIA.
WITH THAT I'LL HAND IT OFF TO
THE OTHER PRESENTERS.
>> BEVERLY.
>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
I'M GOING TO START US OFF WITH
A COUPLE MINUTE OVERVIEW.
WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.
AMY GRAY IS GOING TO GO THROUGH
THE TERM PERMIT POWERPOINT SO
WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE SOME MAPS
OF THE AREA AND SHE'LL EXPLAIN
THE TERM PERMIT PROCESS.
FOLLOWING UP ON SOME OF THE
COMMENTS THAT LISH MADE.
WE ALSO HAVE WITH US TWO
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EASTLAKE
COMMUNITY THAT HAVE WORKED ON
THIS.
RON AND DEITRA AND THEY'RE
GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE
COMMUNITY PROCESS THAT BROUGHT
THIS IDEA FORWARD.
WE'LL RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC
HEARING COMMENTS.
I THINK THIS ONE IS A LITTLE
BIT UNUSUAL WHICH IS WHY I
WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE
WE JUMPED INTO THE POWERPOINT.
I THINK THAT COMMITTEE HAS A
LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH TERM
PERMITS ARE IT'S NORMALLY AN
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER WANTS
TO DO A UTILITY TUNNEL OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THAT
PERMIT IS THE WAY WE
ACCOMMODATE THAT PARTIAL USE OF
THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN
THIS IDEA HAS REALLY BEEN
CHAMPIONED BY THE EAST HOWE
STEP STEERING COMMITTEE WHICH
IS A COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATION THAT HAS WORKED ON
INCREASING COMMUNITY
CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE
COMMUNITY AND THE LAKE FOR MANY
YEARS.
IN 2018 THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS FACILITATED THE
COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPER WORKING
TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT
WHICH WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS SDOT'S
SUPPORT OF A TERM PERMIT THAT
REALLY IMPLEMENTS THIS
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATION AND THE ADJACENT
DEVELOPER WITH THE AWKWARD NAME
OF BSOP 1, LLC.
I THINK WE CAN JUMP INTO THE
POWERPOINT AND THEN AMY'S GOING
TO BE SHARING THIS WITH OUR
COMMUNITY REPS AND WE ALSO HAVE
SOME OF THE DESIGN TEAM THAT
WORKED ON THIS.
MICHAEL JENKINS AND MOST
EVERYONE YOU CAN THINK OF.
SO I THINK WE'RE READY TO JUMP
INTO THE POWERPOINT THEN, AMY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT TO YOU
TODAY.
MY NAME IS AMY GRAY.
I WORK FOR THE SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ON
THE TERM PERMIT PROGRAM.
AS BEVERLY MENTIONED THE
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS
FACILITATED AN MOU BETWEEN BSOP
1, LLC AND THE EAST HOWE
STEERING COMMITTEE TO COME UP
WITH A PLAN FOR THIS AREA IN
UNOPENED EAST HOWE.
BSO P WILL CONTRIBUTE $500,000
TOWARDS THE DEVELOPMENT AND
MAINTENANCE OF THE NEW PLAZA.
SO THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE
THEY'RE NOT JUST CREATING IT
WITHOUT HAVING AN ON GOING
MAINTENANCE PLAN SO IT WOULD
JUST, NOBODY WOULD BE
RESPONSIBLE.
BSOP WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN
THE PUBLIC PLAZA.
BSOP IS SEEKING A NEW PERMIT
FOR PRIVATE WEEKDAY PARKING IN
EAST HOWE STREET THAT IS
CURRENTLY UNOPENED AND NOT USED
FOR TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES.
AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE
SUPPORTS THE PRIVATE WEEKDAY
PARKING AND SDOT IS
RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
NEXT SLIDE.
SO JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT
OF NAMES OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE
MIGHT NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH,
BSOP 1, LLC IS THE PROPERTY
OWNER AND EXISTING OFFICE THAT
USES PARKING IN UNOPENED EAST
HOWE RIGHT OF WAY NOW.
THE EAST HOWE STEPS PLAZA
COMMUNITY IS A GROUP OF MEMBERS
WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE MOA FOR THE
PUBLIC APPROVAL IN THIS AREA.
THERE WILL BE I'LL TURN IT OVER
LATER IN THE PRESENTATION TO
THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS
REPRESENTING THE STEERING
COMMITTEE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO HERE IS WHAT DATED AERIAL
MAP OF THE AREA.
THE STAR SHOWS THE PORTION OF
UNOPENED EAST HOWE TO THE SOUTH
WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A
VACANT LOT.
THAT'S A BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT.
TO THE NORTH IS 1910 FAIRVIEW
AVENUE EAST.
NEXT SLIDE.
AS BEVERLY TOUCHED UPON, TERM
PERMITS ARE TWO STEP PROCESS.
THE FIRST STEP WHICH IS TO
PROVIDE CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL.
AND THEN IF COUNCIL, WE'LL COME
BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL APPROVAL
THROUGH A TERM PERMIT ORDINANCE
THAT SPECIFIES ALL THE TERMS,
CONDITIONS, FEES, INSPECTION
REQUIREMENTS, VIABILITY
INSURANCE, REMOVE AND RESTORE
OBLIGATIONS OF THE PERMIT
HOLDER.
BUT THAT WILL ALL HAPPEN IF
COUNCIL PROVIDES CONCEPTUAL
APPROVAL.
NEXT SLIDE.
SO HERE'S THE PROPOSAL.
THIS IMAGE SHOWS THE PUBLIC
PLAZA BEING DEVELOPED.
THE RED DOTS SHOW THE 16
PRIVATE WEEKDAY PARKING SPOTS
AND THE BLUE DOTS SHOW THE FOUR
PUBLIC STALLS.
THE STEERING COMMITTEE RECEIVED
MATCHING FUND GRANT FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS FOR
THE PERMITTING OF THE PLAZA.
BSOP 1, LLC WILL ACCOMMODATE UP
TO 12 COMMUNITY EVENTS IN THIS
AREA.
THAT IS SPECIFIED IN THE
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING
BETWEEN THEM AND THE STEERING
COMMITTEE.
AND AT THIS POINT I WAS GOING
TO TURN IT OVER TO JULIET FROM
THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE
STEERING COMMITTEE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AMY.
GOING TO START US OFF AND THEN
I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH A LITTLE
MORE DESCRIPTION.
JUST FROM AN INTRODUCTION
STANDPOINT, I AM WITH HBB
LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.
I'M A DESIGN CONSULTANT WORKING
TO DEVELOP FASTER PLANS IN THE
PUBLIC PROCESS AND THE DESIGN
DRAWINGS TO GET US WHERE WE ARE
HERE TODAY.
>> THIS IS RON.
I CAN GO OVER THE SLIDE.
ALSO HERE TO HELP ANSWER
QUESTIONS.
I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF THE
EAST LAKE COMMUNITY.
I HAVE BEEN THE CHAIR OF THE
STEERING COMMITTEE THAT HAS
WORKED ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE
LAST SEVEN YEARS.
IT HAS TAKEN SOME TIME TO GO
THROUGH THE INITIAL PLANNING
AND DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT.
BUT WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.
WE'VE MADE GOOD PROGRESS ON IT.
THROUGH SUPPORT THROUGH
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD
PLANNING GRANTS WE HELD FOUR
COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO LOOK AT
DIFFERENT DESIGN CONCEPTS.
WE ADDRESSED A LOT OF DESIGN
QUESTIONS AND PARKING QUESTIONS
THAT CAME UP AND WE'RE VERY
HAPPY TO BE AT A POSITION WHERE
WE'VE COME TOGETHER AND HAVE A
PROPOSED SOLUTION TO MOVE
FORWARD THAT WOULD ALLOW THE
CREATION OF THIS GREAT NEW
PUBLIC PLAZA OPEN SPACE ALONG
FAIRVIEW AVENUE.
WHICH PROVIDES CONNECTIONS
UPHILL THROUGH THE EAST HOWE
STEPS CONNECTION AND ALSO
CONNECTION TO THE TRAIL THAT
GOES ALONG LAKE UNION.
THIS HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE
PROCESS.
THE COMMUNITY HAS INITIATED AND
LED THE DESIGN SUPPORTED BY
DEPARTMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD
GRANTS.
WE HAVE FUNDED THE DESIGN AND
PERMIT PROCESS TO THE ADJACENT
PROPERTY OWNER WOULD FUND THE
CONSTRUCTION OF THE PLAZA AND
WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF THE
PLAZA ONCE IT'S DONE.
WE SUPPORT THIS EFFORT AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM THIS
MORNING.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT
THE DESIGN?
>> YEAH.
SO I'VE BEEN ASKED TO WALK
THROUGH A COUPLE OF KEY
COMPONENTS.
I GUESS ALONG JUST BUILDING OFF
WHAT RON HAD MENTIONED WE HAVE
THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS TO
DEVELOP AN ORIGINAL MASTER
PLAN.
WE DISCUSSED LOTS OF COMMENTS
AND P ONE OF THE BIG ELEMENTS
WAS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE A TERRACING OF THE
STEPS.
ONCE THE MOU WAS DEVELOPED AND
THE FINAL SIGHT PLAN, THAT'S
WHEN WE HAD THAT FOURTH MEETING
TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY WAS
AWARE OF THIS PARTNERSHIP
APPROACH.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SDOT TO
DEVELOP THE FINAL DESIGN.
ONE OF THE MAJOR COMMENT THEY
HAD IN THE DESIGN PROCESS WAS
TO DO EVERYTHING WE COULD TO
MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T DISTURB THE
ROOT LIMITS OF THIS EXISTING
TREE.
THIS IS A LARGE EXISTING
CONIFER IN HEALTHY CONDITION.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO MAKE SURE
WE ADJUST THE DESIGN AROUND
THIS TREE.
IT SITS IN A PARKING PLANTED
ISLAND.
WE ARE RETAINING THE FULL
EXTENT OF THAT EXISTING
PLANTING ISLAND.
SO WE HAVE NO DISTURBANCE
BEYOND WHAT'S ALREADY PAVED.
WE PRESENTED A SUBCOMMITTEE
MEETING.
WE'VE ADJUSTED SOME OF THE
DESIGN TO REFLECT THEIR
COMMENTS.
MOST OF THEIR COMMENTS WERE
RELATED TO THE PUBLIC
ACCESSIBILITY OF THIS PLAZA.
SO WE'VE DOPE A FEW THINGS TO
MAKE SURE THE PLAZA IS OPEN.
THAT IT FEELS OPEN VISUALLY.
IT IS LIKE ALL OF THE DESIGN
ELEMENTS COME TOGETHER TO MAKE
SURE IT FEELS LIKE AN OPEN
PUBLIC SPACE.
THAT THE STALLS ARE ALL SIGNED.
IT'S CLEAR THIS IS A PUBLIC
SPACE AND THE COMMUNITY IS
WELCOME.
WE ALSO LOOK TO WORK WITH THEM
TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE RIGHT
SIZE SPACES SO WE CAN SUPPORT
SMALL TERM EVENTS AS WELL AS
SOME LARGER EVENTS AS YOU SPILL
INTO THE REST OF THAT PUBLIC
RIGHT OF WAY.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> AND COULD WE ASK, OH, WE'LL
HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AT
THE END HERE.
KEEP GOING.
>> ALL RIGHT.
COUPLE OF PHOTOS TO SHOW YOU.
>> COULD I ASK MY QUESTION NOW?
>> SURE.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, JULIET.
THANK YOU TO THE PRESENTERS.
MY QUESTIONS WERE ON SLIDE SIX
AND THEN ON SLIDE SEVEN.
SORRY.
I DID NOT JUMP IN SOON ENOUGH.
SLIDE SIX DOES I GUESS THIS IS
WHEN BEVERLY WAS OR AMY WAS
SPEAKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC
BENEFITS.
WE COULD GO BACK TO SLIDE
SEVEN.
REALLY WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME
TO UNDERSTAND REGARDING PUBLIC
BENEFITS IS IT'S ONE THING TO
CREATE A PUBLIC BENEFIT.
BUT IF NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT
IT'S NOT TRULY A PUBLIC
BENEFIT.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO
UNDERSTAND IS WHO CAN ATTEND I
THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THERE'D
BE ECHTS PROMOTED OR CREATED.
WHO CAN ATTEND, HOW IS IT
ADVERTISED?
HOW DO PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT IS FREE TO THEM
JUST AS A RESIDENT OR PERSON IN
THE CITY?
IS THERE STORAGE AVAILABLE FOR
THESE EVENTS?
I GUESS THAT'S MY FIRST
QUESTION.
I'VE GOT TWO MORE.
>> SURE.
IS IT ALL RIGHT IF I RESPOND TO
THAT FIRST ONE?
DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING
FIRST?
>> GO AHEAD.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO THE ENTIRE SPACE IS OPEN TO
THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT THE
SEATTLE DESIGN COMMISSION
COMMENTS WERE ABOUT IS
ADJUSTING THE DESIGN SO IT
FEELS OPEN VISUALLY.
LOOKS LIKE IT'S OPEN.
IT IS THAT INVITING EXPERIENCE
TO CLEARLY INDICATE.
SO ASIDE FROM THE TWO TREES YOU
SEE ON THIS CORNER PLAN.
WHEN THE PLANTING IS VERY LOW
GROWING WE MADE SURE THE VISUAL
CONNECTION FROM THE SIDEWALK TO
THE STAIRS TO THE STEPS IS VERY
CLEAR.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF START TO GET
THOSE SIGHT LINES AND KNOW THIS
IS WHERE YOU GO TO MAKE THAT
HILL CLIMB.
YOU ASKED ABOUT PROGRAMMING
SPECIFICALLY.
SO EAST HOWE STEERING COMMITTEE
PART OF THE PUBLIC PROCESS HAS
BEEN TO ASK WHAT TYPES OF
THINGS YOU'D WANT TO DO IN THE
SPACE.
WHAT IS IT USED FOR?
WHAT WOULD THE COMMUNITY WANT
TO USE IT FOR?
MOST OF THE RESPONSES WE GOT
WAS JUST THE IMPORTANCE OF
HAVING THAT VISUAL RESPITE.
A SPOT THEY CAN HANG OUT.
WE'VE ELONGATED STEPS SO THEY
CAN HANG OUT ON THE STAIRS.
CREATED SEATING WITH A HAVE
GEARED TOWARDS THE DOWNTOWN.
NOT JUST THE LAKE.
JUST HAVING THAT OPEN SPACE IN
THIS LOCATION.
THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS IF
SOMEONE WAS GOING TO BE, A
SMALL GROUP IS COMING FROM THE
COMMUNITY TO DO THE HILL CLIMB.
A POPULAR FITNESS ROUTE TO HEAD
UP THOSE STAIRS.
OR LAKE TO LAKE ALSO IS A GREAT
URBAN HIKING ROUTE.
A LOFT OF THE INTENDED USE IS
THOSE SMALL GROUP GATHERING
SPOTS.
BIKERS COMING TO MEET HERE WHEN
THEY'RE GOING TO BIKE AROUND
LAKE UNION.
THERE'S A DESIRE OR A HOPE TO
HOST SOME SLIGHTLY LARGER
EVENTS.
BEING ABLE TO SPILL INTO THE
PUBLIC PARKING LOT REALLY
WORKING IN COORDINATION WITH
THE BSOP GROUP IF THERE WAS
EVER GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A,
I DON'T KNOW A FUN RUN THAT
WANTS TO HAVE A TENT SET UP.
ANY KINDS OF THOSE USES WOULD
BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THERE'S KIND OF AN
UNDERSTANDING AND EXPECTATION
THAT WE'LL PROBABLY SET SOME
PARAMETERS AROUND THE 1910 AND
THE STEERING COMMITTEE
SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO THE
12 EVENTS FOR THE MOU THAT HAVE
BEEN CONCEPTUALIZED.
ANYBODY COULD GO THROUGH THE
TYPICAL SEATTLE PROCESS AND
REQUEST TO HOLD SOME EVENT HERE
THROUGH THE TYPICAL PERMITTING
PROCESS WITH ANY OTHER TYPE OF
OPEN SPACE AND THE RIGHT OF
WAY.
>> THANKS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, IF I MAY.
>> YEAH, PLEASE JUMP IN.
>> FOR THE RECORD, IAN MORRISON
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE TERM
APPLICANT BSOP 1. THE TWELVE
EVENTS THAT SDOT PRESENTATION,
THAT IS THINK OF IT AS A WRITE
OF FIRST OFFER FOR THE STEERING
COMMITTEE.
THAT'S 12 EVENTS THAT THE
STEERING COMMITTEE IS ABLE TO
DO A YEAR UNDER THE MOU.
THERE'S STILL THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR ANY OTHER GROUP TO GO
THROUGH THE NORMAL PERMITTING
PROCESS IN THEY WANTED TO DO A
FESTIVAL EVENT.
THAT'S 12 EVENTS THAT ARE
PRERESERVED FOR STEERING
COMMITTEE.
YOUR OTHER QUESTION IS PART OF
THE TERM PERMIT WILL BE SIGNAGE
AND WAY FINDING.
THAT BE EVOLVED SHOULD THE
COMMITTEE CHOOSE TO APPROVE
THIS.
THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
LOCATIONAL SIGNAGE.
THAT THE PARKING IS AVAILABLE
TO THE PUBLIC ON NIGHTS AND
WEEKENDS.
ALSO OF THE STALLS WILL BE
CREATED IF IF THE TERM PERMIT
WAS APPROVED.
>> YOU STARTED TO ANSWER
MYFECTION QUESTION.
SO MY OTHER QUESTION HERE.
I'LL SIT ON THE PUBLIC EVENTS
REAL QUICKLY.
WHAT'S GOING TO BE, JUST THE
FIRST OF TWO.
WHICH IS VERY CLEAR, MAKING IT
VERY CLEAR FOR ANYONE IN THE
CITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY
ARE ABLE TO HOST EVENTS HERE.
THE ONUS SHOULD NOT BE PUT ON
THE INDIVIDUAL TO FIGURE OUT
FOR THEMSELVES THAT THIS IS A
PLACE THAT IS, THAT THERE'S A
PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR THEM TO USE
WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE.
WHETHER THAT'S REACHING OUT TO
LOCAL GROUPS BEYOND JUST THE
EAST HOWE GROUP.
I'LL LEAVE THE DETAILS UP TO
YOU.
JUST LETTING YOU KNOW PUBLIC
BENEFITS ARE IMPORTANT TO ME.
UNDERSTANDING PEOPLE SHOULD NOT
HAVE TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO
ACHIEVE OR RECEIVE THESE PUBLIC
BENEFITS IS CRUCIAL.
HOW CLEARLY IS IT DEFINED THAT
THESE ARE PUBLIC AS COMPARED TO
THE REST OF THE PRIVATE LOT AND
THEN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION
ABOUT THE TREE.
>> YEAH.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH SDOT
DIRECTLY.
THERE'LL BE A SIGN ON EVERY
STALL.
NOT JUST THE PUBLIC STALLS BUT
ON EVERY STALL INDIVIDUALLY SO
THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY ARE
PUBLIC LIKE ALL PUBLIC ALL THE
TIME VERSUS PUBLIC EVENINGS AND
WEEKENDS.
IN ADDITION I THINK WE WERE
SDOT IS CONSIDERING A SIGN AT
THE STREET SAYING PUBLIC
PARKING.
THE INITIAL INSTALLATION WOULD
INCLUDE THE STALLS SIGNAGE FOR
EACH AND EVERY STALL.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE
LANGUAGE THAT GOES ON THE
SIGNS.
THERE IS A LARGER MASTER PLAN
THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPED
THAT INVOLVES MORE CONNECTIVITY
AND OPEN SPACE AND IMPROVEMENTS
ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
ADDITIONAL WAY FINDING.
THOSE THINGS ARE ALL THINGS
THAT ARE STILL CONCEPTUALIZED.
HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO SDOT
THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL.
THAT'S STILL THAT ELEMENT IS
STILL IN PROCESS.
>> I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE
EAST HOWE COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND
I'VE BEEN ON THE STEERING
COMMITTEE FOR THIS PROJECT FOR
THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
GETTING WORD OUT TO THE PUBLIC
IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US ALSO.
WE HAVE A NEW WEBSITE AND THIS
WILL BE ON THAT AS WILL THE
PARKS ALONG FAIRVIEW.
SO ANYBODY WHO IS LOOKING FOR,
IF THEY'RE TAKING A RIDE AROUND
THE LAKE.
TAKING A WALK.
THEY'LL KNOW THIS IS THERE AND
WHAT FACILITIES ARE AVAILABLE.
>> WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION
ABOUT THE PARKING STALLS.
IF SOMEBODY IS DRIVING BY ON
THE STREET WHAT LOOKS LIKE TO
BE A PRIVATE LOT IS NOT, IT IS
NOT COP FUSED AS A SOLELY
PRIVATE LOT.
DON'T WORRY, YOU'RE NOT THE
ONLY ONES I'M TALKING TO ABOUT
THIS.
I HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WHERE
I WAS SAYING THE SAME THING TO
A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GROUP OF
PEOPLE.
JOB WELL DONE ON ALL OF THIS.
ESPECIALLY ON THIS TREE.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE
OF HOW WE CAN PRESERVE THE
TREES AS WE DEVELOP THE LAND
AROUND THIS.
YOU CAN'T, IF IT WE CUT DOWN
THAT TREE IT WOULD TAKE, WE
WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RECOUP
THAT GROUP.
THANK YOU FOR PRESERVING THAT
TREE AND CREATING WHAT LOOKS TO
BE A GOOD PRODUCT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
SORRY.
CHAIR PEDERSEN.
I GUESS MY QUESTION ABOUT THE
TREE IS WHAT DID IT TAKE TO
PRESERVE THAT TREE.
THERE WE GO.
>> SORRY.
I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION IN
THERE.
SO WE WERE INTENDING TO
PRESERVE THIS TREE FROM THE
EARLY DISCUSSIONS WITH SDOT IT
WAS CLEAR THAT WAS A STRONG
DESIRE.
SO REALLY THE URBAN FOREST OR
THE CHANGES MADE BASED ON THE
RECOMMENDATION, WE DUG AROUND
THE TREE TO MAKE SURE WE
UNDERSTOOD WHERE THE ROOTS WERE
AND WHERE THEY WERE GOING.
WE DID POCKET INVESTIGATION.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TO
LEAVE THE EXISTING CURB IN
PLACE.
SO THAT IS WHERE THE MAJORITY
OF THE ROOTS ARE STILL FOCUSED
AND THOSE MAJOR ROOT SYSTEMS IN
THE LANDSCAPE AREA WHERE THAT'S
A LARGE ISLAND RIGHT NOW.
ESSENTIALLY THAT'S THE PRIMARY
ELEMENT.
WE HAD TO RESHIFT THE STALL AS
LITTLE.
WE LOST ONE STALL BECAUSE THERE
WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM WITHOUT
ENCROACHING SLIGHTLY INTO THAT
EXISTING LANDSCAPE AREA.
WE ADJUSTED WHERE THE STAIRS,
WHERE THE PLAZA TURNS AND HEADS
UP THROUGH THE EXISTING STAIR
WAY.
WE ADJUSTED THAT LIMITATION SO
OUR GRADING WOULD WORK TO GET
THE TERRACING THAT WAS SUPER
IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY
WHILE BEING ABLE TO NOT
ENCROACH ON WHAT WOULD BE KIND
OF THAT EAST SIDE OF THAT
EXISTING TREE.
SO MOSTLY IT WAS SLIGHT SITE
ADJUSTMENTS AND SHIFTING THE
PARKING AND ADJUSTING THE SIZE
OF THE STALLS WITHIN THE
REQUIRED PARKING SIZES.
TO NOT ENCROACH ON THAT.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT ONE PARKING STALL IS
DEFINITELY WORTH IT.
GOOD JOB.
THANK YOU.
>> YEAH.
PLEASE KEEP GOING WITH THE
PRESENTATION AND I THINK WE'VE
GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS AT THE
END.
>> SURE.
JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO SHOW
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE
GROUND.
FACING EAST THIS IS FROM THE
SIDEWALK WHAT WOULD BE THAT
ENTRANCE INTO THE PLAZA SPACE.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE
APPROXIMATION OF THE PRODUCT
LINE.
THE GOAL WAS TO ELEVATE YOU A
LITTLE SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE
AS YOU COME AROUND THE CORP.ER
NOT JUST THE LAKE BUT THE
DOWNTOWN.
>> I'D LIKE TO INTERJECT HERE
ONE QUICK THING FOR THESE
SLIDES.
IT OCCURRED TO A LOT OF US THAT
IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THE
SIDEWALK THERE FACING WEST OR
FACING EAST, IT DOESN'T, IT
READS RIGHT NOW AS A PRIVATE
PARKING LOT.
THE MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S
ACTUALLY CITY RIGHT OF WAY
HERE.
THE PROPOSAL IS TO MAKE IT MORE
PUBLICLY KNOWN THAT THIS IS AN
AREA FOR PEOPLE TO USE AS PART
OF THE PLAZA AND ALSO DO SOME
RESERVED PRIVATE PARKING FOR
THE WEEKDAYS.
>> THIS IS PROBABLY ALSO A GOOD
SLIDE TO SHOW AS WELL ON THE
SITE PLAN IF IT WE NEED TO GET
INTO DETAILS THE 1910 THE
PRIVATE PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN OUR
PROCESS JUST UNDERSTANDING
WHERE THE PARKING AND HOW IT
WORKS AND HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY
PERMITTED AND CONSTRUCTED.
THERE IS ACCESS TO SOME OF THE
PRIVATE STALLS IN A DRIVEWAY
USED FOR DELIVERIES AS WELL.
WHAT WE CAREFULLY TRIED TO
ORCHESTRATE EVERYTHING SO THAT
WE WEREN'T ELIMINATING ACCESS
TO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ITSELF
AND EMERGENCY ACCESS WHICH WAS
CERTAINLY IMPORTANT WORKING
WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
TURNING RADIUSES TO MAINTAIN
FIRE ACCESS AROUND THIS
BUILDING WHILE STILL MAXIMIZING
THE SPACE OF THE PLAZA THAT WE
COULD IN THE AREA REMAINING.
THE NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS A
COUPLE MORE PHOTOS.
THE EXISTING STEPS.
THE BUILDING YOU SEE HERE IS
THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY
DEVELOPED THE 1818 ALONG
FAIRVIEW.
WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT STEP,
EXISTING STEPS COMING DOWN.
ONCE YOU GET RIGHT AT THAT
CORNER YOU HAVE THIS FEELING OF
OPENING UP.
THE CONCEPT FROM THE COMMUNITY
WAS THAT IT CREATES THIS
WELCOME MAP.
THIS LANDING.
THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE A
MASSIVE AMOUNT OF EVENTS HERE.
IT'S NOT THE PLACE WHERE A LOT
OF PEOPLE ARE INTENDED TO COME.
TO HAVE A SPACE THAT FEELS
ENCLOSED THAT FEELS WELCOMING
THAT FEELS LIKE YOU CAN TAKE A
BREAK AND PAUSE.
THEN SOME OF THOSE OTHER
PHOTOS.
>> SO THIS SLIDE WE WANTED TO
INCLUDE TO SHOW JUST PEDESTRIAN
CONNECTIONS AROUND THAT AREA.
RIGHT NOW IT IS, THIS PORTION
OF UNOPENED RIGHT OF WAY IN
EAST HOWELL LOOKS LIKE A
PARKING LOT.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS THERE
WILL BE A DIRECT CONNECTION
FROM FAIRVIEW UP THROUGH
CAPITAL HILL.
AREAS WHERE THERE'S PROTECTED
BIKE LANES.
THIS WAS SHOWING SOME OF THE
EXISTING CONNECTIONS AND HOW
THIS ENHANCES THAT CONNECTION.
NEXT SLIDE.
SO JUST TO WRAP THINGS UP AS
FAR AS PRESENTATION LOOKING FOR
COUNCIL'S CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL
OF THIS.
IF THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED BY
COUNCIL WE WILL PREPARE THE
ORDINANCE AND PUT ALL THE
REQUIREMENTS IN THAT.
IF COUNCIL GRANTS THE ORDINANCE
THE PERMIT WILL BE IN PLACE FOR
15 YEARS.
THAT'S THE END OF THE
PRESENTATION.
>> I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THE
WORK YOU'VE DONE WITH THE
COMMUNITY SDOT AND THE
DEPARTMENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU.
I WONDER IF WE COULD GO BACK TO
SLIDE 10. I
APOLOGIZE.
THIS IS SMALL.
I CAN'T SEE EVERYTHING.
I THINK A PREVIOUS SLIDE TOO WE
MIGHT GO BACK TO.
TO ONE OF THE THINGS I'M TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND BETTER IS WHAT
ACCOMMODATIONS THERE ARE FOR
PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY ISSUES.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A STAIR.
IF THERE IS ACCOMMODATION FOR
THOSE WITH MOBILITY ISSUES.
LOOKING AT THIS MAP AND ONE OF
THE PHOTOS.
, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME HOW
SOMEBODY, WHAT THE CONNECTION
IS TO THE LAKE.
THERE WAS A PHOTO THAT SHOWED
SORT OF THE FRONTAGE AND
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A
CROSSWALK.
SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW
PEOPLE MIGHT ACTUALLY CROSS
FAIRVIEW TO GET TO THE LAKE?
>> YEAH, THE SITE PLAN MIGHT BE
A BETTER ONE IF WE WANT TO GO
BACK TWO SLIDES.
LET ME ADDRESS THE ADA
ACCESSIBILITY.
IT IS A STAIR CLIMB.
GETTING ADA ACCESS UP AND DOWN
THE STAIRS IS PART OF LIKE
MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE
GONE THROUGH TO REPLACE AND
ACTUALLY GET THE STAIR ACTUALLY
DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE THE
DEVELOPMENT UP ON THE ABOVE
ALONG EASTLAKE.
SO THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN A LONG
TERM CONNECTION FOR THE
COMMUNITY IN EACH KIND OF PIECE
HAS BEEN BUILT ALONG THE WAY.
WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO OUR
COMMUNITY THOUGH IS I TALKED
ABOUT HAVING THAT SLIGHTLY
ELEVATED VIEW ONCE YOU GET UP
EVEN LIKE THREE FEET A LITTLE
BIT AROUND THAT RANGE YOU CAN
HAVE JUST ENOUGH HEIGHT TO SEE
THE WATER.
AS YOU COME AROUND THAT CORNER
YOU CAN SEE DOWNTOWN.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A
LARGER SPACE JUST ABOVE THE
MAIN PLAZA.
THERE'S A BENCH SET
INTENTIONALLY AND THE
ORIENTATION OF THIS PLAZA SO
YOU CAN SIT ON THAT BENCH.
YOU HAVE ACCESSIBLE SEATING
ADJACENT AS WELL.
JUST TO TAKE IN THAT VIEW OF
DOWNTOWN ON THE LAKE.
WHAT WE DID IN ORDER TO
ACCOMMODATE THAT IS WE DO
PROVIDE AN ADA ACCESSIBLE
ROUTE.
IT'S LESS THAN 5%.
IT'S A GRADUAL SLOPE UP.
SO IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THAT
OVERLOOK WAS ADA ACCESSIBLE.
FROM THAT POINT YOU REALLY ARE
AT THE BASE OF THE HILL CLIMB.
TO GET FROM UP TO EASTLAKE YOU
HAVE TO USE THE STREET SYSTEM
AND GO AROUND.
SO THAT COVERS THE
ACCESSIBILITY SIDE OF THINGS.
THE CROSSWALK ITSELF, SO PART
OF THE MASTER PLAN DOES SHOW A
CROSSWALK AND THE INTENT FROM
THE COMMUNITY WOULD LOVE TO SEE
A CROSSWALK IN THIS LOCATION.
WE CONCEPTUALIZED WHERE IT
POTENTIALLY COULD GO.
WE EVEN SUBMITTED FOR SDOT
POTENTIAL GRANT TO HELP THE
COMMUNITY DESIGN AND FIGURE OUT
AND BUILD THAT CROSSWALK.
IN FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH
SDOT WE'RE ON A LARGE CURVE.
SO THERE IS SIGHT DISTANCES.
WE DID TALK WITH SEATTLE DESIGN
COMMISSION AS WELL, THAT WAS A
COMMENT THEY BROUGHT UP.
THERE IS TWO CROSSWALKS ABOUT A
COUPLE HUNDRED FEET ON EITHER
SIDE THAT ARE EXISTING TO BE
USED.
ULTIMATELY SDOT ONCE THIS IS
BUILT AND WE SEE HOW IT'S USED
AND IF THE PROGRAMMING IS
SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH AND THE
COMMUNITY STARTS TO USE IT MORE
AND MORE WHETHER OR NOT IT
WARRANT AS CROSSWALK AND A
DESIGN PROCESS ASSOCIATED WITH
REALLY WHERE'S THE BEST PLACE
TO PUT THAT CROSSWALK.
IT REMAINS AN IMPORTANT
COMPONENT FROM A LARGER MASTER
PLAN PERSPECTIVE BUT THERE'S A
LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH THE
EXISTING ROADWAY CONFIGURATION
WITH SDOT TO SEE HOW THAT COULD
BE IMPLEMENTED.
IT'S NOT PART OF THIS CURRENT
PROJECT.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
AND THEN JUST ONE MORE QUESTION
SORT OF REFLECTING AGAIN ON
WHAT COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS WAS
SAYING.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE
FRONTAGE MIGHT BE 30 FEET OR
SO.
I'M NOT GREAT AT ESTIMATING
THIS.
BUT A FAIRLY SMALL SLIVER
BETWEEN WHAT IS VERY OBVIOUSLY
OFFICE BUILDINGS.
SO I JUST WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE
BIT MORE AGAIN ABOUT HOW WE
WILL ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE
AWARE THAT THIS IS PUBLIC SPACE
THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE
PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO COME IN
AND USE THIS SPACE.
BECAUSE JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF
THE PHOTOS EVEN IF IT'S, YOU
KNOW, GREENED UP IT STILL WOULD
LOOK TO ME BASED ON MY ABILITY
TO VISUALIZE, LIKE, YOU KNOW,
SORT OF A GREEN STRIP BETWEEN
TWO PRIVATE PARKING LOTS.
SO JUST WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE
BIT MORE ABOUT THE PUBLIC
FACING NATURE OF WHAT THIS
WOULD LOOK LIKE.
>> MAYBE THAT FIRST SLIDE WITH
THE TITLE SLIDE GIVES GOOD
PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THE END
VIEW COULD LOOK LIKE.
YOU HAVE THE TITLE IN THE
MIDDLE SO YOU CAN VISUALIZE IF
IT WASN'T THERE.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE
DONE IS I THINK JUST IN THE
SHAPE AND THE FORM OF THE OF
THE DESIGN.
MAKING IT WELCOME.
MAKING IT OPEN.
WHAT'S NOT TERRIBLY CLEAR HERE.
THERE'S ACTUALLY THE ADJACENT
PROPERTY HAS A GREEN SPACE NEXT
TO IT.
AS SOON AS YOU HIT BETWEEN
THOSE TWO PROPERTIES YOU'LL SEE
A DIFFERENT IN THE URBAN
FRAMEWORK.
JUST THE AMOUNT OF GREEN YOU
HAVE IN THIS AREA.
INTEGRATING A LOT OF SEATING.
KIND OF INVITING PEOPLE IN FOR
THE SEATING.
BEING ABLE TO SEE THE HILL
CLIMB ARE COMPONENTS TO USE THE
URBAN ELEMENTS TO REINFORCE
THIS IS A SPACE AND THAT IT'S A
WELCOMING SPACE.
AS I DID MENTION THERE IS SOME
DISCUSSION WITH SDOT.
DO WE WANT TO ASSIGN SOMETHING.
FROM A VEHICULAR STANDPOINT TO
KNOW THERE'S PUBLIC PARKING.
POTENTIALLY ALSO FROM A
STANDPOINT.
WE'RE LOOKING TO SDOT TO HELP
US DETERMINE IF THERE'S
ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT MIGHT
BE NEEDED.
TO HILL CLIMB THIS DIRECTION OR
WHATEVER OTHER KIND OF WAY
FINDING MIGHT BE NEEDED.
>> MY LAST QUESTION IS AND THIS
IS JUST MY FUNDAMENTAL POSITION
ON THESE ISSUES.
I'M TRYING TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND
HERE.
HAVING A HARD TIME
UNDERSTANDING WHY IT'S
NECESSARY TO CONVERT WHAT IS
PUBLICLY OWNED LAND INTO
PRIVATE SPACES IF THERE'S,
WE'RE NOT REALLY, LIKE THE
PARKING IS STILL THERE.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL
ACCESSIBLE.
IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHY IT
NEEDS TO BECOME PRIVATELY
OWNED.
>> I THINK COUNCILMEMBER I
WOULD RESPOND TO THAT AND NOTE
THAT THE PERMIT DOESN'T CONVERT
THE RIGHT OF WAY TO PRIVATE
PROPERTY.
IT'S ONLY THROUGH THE VACATION
PROCESS THAT A DEVELOPER
ACTUALLY ACQUIRES THE PUBLIC
INTEREST IN RIGHT OF WAY.
THE TERM PERMIT GIVES THEM
PERMISSION FROM THE CITY FOR
THIS USE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THIS TERM PERMIT
ACCOMMODATES THIS USE AND THIS
PLAN FOR 15 YEARS.
ALL TERM PERMITS ARE REVOCABLE.
WE USE THE LONGER TERM WHEN WE
SEE THERE'S MORE OF AN
INVESTMENT AS SOMEONE'S DOING A
UTILITY TUNNEL UNDERNEATH AN
ALLEY.
IF THIS IS THIS PRIVATE USE OF
PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AS DETYPED
IN THE ORDINANCE FOR THE TERM
PERIOD THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
ACCOMMODATES.
AND AFTER THAT ITREMAINS
PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND THE
PERMIT COULD BE REVOKED.
YOU KNOW, BUT THIS JUST SETS A
USE FOR THE PERIOD AND THE
CONDITIONS AND THE TERM.
>> THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD
TO THAT IS THE COMMUNITY
PROCESS IN 2014.
HAS WORKED WITH A LOT OF
VOLUNTEER HOURS AND THE GRANTS
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS IN ORDER TO FUND
THE MASTER PLAN THE COMMUNITY
PROCESS AND THE DESIGN TO DATE.
THAT TOTALS I THINK TO A LITTLE
OVER 200,000 THAT THEY RECEIVED
THROUGH THE GRANTS AND MATCHING
THOSE GRANT DOLLARS WITH
VOLUNTEER HOURS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A
BIG CONCERN DURING THE
COMMUNITY PROCESS, WELL HOW
WILL THIS BE MAINTAINED?
HOW IS IT GOING TO GET BUILT?
WHAT WE HEARD WHEN WE HAD THAT
LAST OPEN HOUSE AFTER THE
PARTNERSHIP WAS DEVELOPED AND
THE MOU TERMS AND THE FINAL
SITE PLANS ADDRESSED WAS JUST
THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO
HAVE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO
HAVE IT BUILT AND BUILT SO
QUICKLY SO IT'S OPEN AND USABLE
TO THE PUBLIC.
ALMOST MORE IMPORTANTLY IN A
LOT OF THOSE COMMUNITY
DISCUSSIONS OF THE THE LONG
TERM MAINTENANCE.
NOT JUST THE FUNDING OF THE
CONSTRUCTION BUT TAKING
OWNERSHIP OF THAT LONG TERM
MAINTENANCE.
ALL OF THOSE SPACES ARE OPEN AS
WELL.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
DID I SEE YOUR HANDS UP?
>> YEAH.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
SO APPRECIATE THE UNDERSCORING
THAT THE TERM PERMIT IS FOR 15
YEARS.
MY INTEREST IN THESE KINDS OF
ARRANGEMENTS IS TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND SORT OF WHAT THE
BACK OF THE ENVELOPE MATH IS.
YOU'VE HEARD ME ASK THIS
QUESTION BEFORE WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT STREET VACATIONS AND THE
LIKE.
WHAT BACK OF THE ENVELOPE MATH
IS ABOUT THE VALUE OF THE
PUBLIC BENEFIT VERSUS WHAT
WE'RE GIVING UP.
PRESUME APPLY THERE'S BEEN SOME
SORT OF CALCULATION THAT THE
$500,000 PLUS THE COST TO
MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC SPACE IT,
THAT THAT IS THE VALUE OF THESE
PARKING SPACES BEING GIVEN UP
DURING THE DAY FOR A PERIOD OF
15 YEARS.
IS THAT CORRECT?
THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME SORT OF
A CALCULATION DONE THAT THAT
IS, THAT CONSTITUTES THE VALUE.
THE LAND ITSELF FOR THE PUBLIC
PLAZA IS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
THEY'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING THE
LAND.
THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING THE COST
TO BUILD THE PLAZA AND THE COST
ASSOCIATED WITH THE REGULAR
MAINTENANCE OF THE PLAZA.
>> I WOULD SAY WE HAVEN'T DONE
A MATHEMATICAL CALCULATION.
I THINK FOR LOOKING AT THE TERM
PERMIT AS AN IMPLEMENTATION
TOOL THAT WHAT WE WERE
RESPONDING TO IS THAT THE
COMMUNITY HAD IDENTIFIED THAT
THIS WAS AN APPROPRIATE BALANCE
THAT THEY SUPPORTED.
SO THIS KIND OF ODD TUCKED AWAY
RIGHT OF WAY THAT WAS USED BY
THE ADJACENT BUSINESS FOR
BUSINESS PARKING.
THAT THEY BALANCE THAT WITH
DEPARTMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD
PLANNING MONEY AND THE ABILITY
TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER DO THE
WORK AND THE IMPLEMENTATION AND
THEN THE ON GOING MAINTENANCE
AND WORK FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS.
MORE A BALANCE OF THE COMMUNITY
FINDING DISAGREEMENT AND THE
THEM ACHIEVE A VERY LONG HELP
STANDING GOAL OF THAT
CONNECTION AND MORE PUBLIC USE
OF THE SPACE.
IT IS A LITTLE BIT AN UNUSUAL
CIRCUMSTANCE BUT IT WAS THE
BALANCE WE HEARD WAS THAT THE
COMMUNITY SUPPORTED THIS AND
THE BUSINESS OBVIOUSLY FEELS
LIKE THEY'RE GETTING IN ENOUGH
OUT OF IT BECAUSE THEY'RE
WILLING TO PAY FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AND WORK
WITH US ON SIGNAGE AND DESIGN
AND DO THE ON GOING MAINTENANCE
AND TERM PERMIT FEES AND
INSURANCE.
SO WE HOPE IT'S THE RIGHT
BALANCE AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE
BRINGING FORWARD IS THAT
COMMUNITY VOICE THAT THEY'RE
SUPPORTIVE OF THE BALANCE.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, AGAIN, I
ALWAYS FEEL THAT THESE PUBLIC
BENEFITS SHOULD OBVIOUSLY
CONSIDER AND BE CENTERED ON THE
GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT THEY SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE AN
ASSESSMENT OF THE VALUE OF WHAT
THE PUBLIC, IN THIS CASE REAL
ESTATE IS.
AND THAT THAT SHOULD ALSO BE
PART OF THE BALANCE.
DO WE KNOW, ARE THERE GOING TO
BE ANY SORT OF RESTRICTIONS ON
THE ABILITY OF THE PRIVATE
ENTITY OF BSOP 1, LLC TO MAKE
MONEY FROM THESE SPACES?
>> THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MEANS
TO DO THAT.
SO THEY WILL HAVE THEIR
BUSINESS DAYTIME PARKING SET
ASIDE AND OTHER THAN THAT THEY
CAN'T CHARGE PARKING FEES.
>> I MEAN I THINK A LOT OF
PEOPLE WHO GET PARKING FROM
THEIR EMPLOYER HAVE TO PAY FOR
IT.
I JUST WANT TO, THAT'S WHAT I'M
ASKING ABOUT.
>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THAT.
PERHAPS IAN DOES OR WE MIGHT
HAVE TO CHECK WITH HIM AND GET
BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
LAST QUESTION RELATES TO THE
MAINTENANCE OF THE PUBLIC
SPACE.
DOES THE MAINTENANCE OF THE
PUBLIC SPACE EXTEND TO THINGS
LIKE, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EVENTS
PERMITS AND THAT SORT OF THING
THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A
GATHERING.
OR IS THAT GOING TO BE WITHIN
THE PER VIEW AS I BELIEVE IT
SHOULD BE OF THE CITY AND THE
SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE OR ARE
WE DELEGATING THE AUTHORITY TO
BOOKING THIS PUBLIC SPACE TO
THE PRIVATE ENTITY?
>> UM, I THINK IN TERMS OF IF
YOU'RE THINKING OF LIKE
ADVERTISING AND CLEANUP AND
SETUP OF TENTS AND SUCH THAT
WOULD BEA PART OF THE SPECIAL
EVENT PLANNING.
SO WHEN SOME ORGANIZATION CAME
IN AND SAID WE WANT TO DO A
POETRY READING WE NEED THIS AND
THAT THAT THAT'S PART OF THE
OBLIGATION OF THE EVENT
PLANNER.
THERE'S NOTHING RIGHT NOW IN
THE MOU THAT WOULD IMPOSE AN
OBLIGATION ON THE PROPERTY
OWNER TO CLEAN UP AFTER AN
EVENT.
I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT
WILL BE AS THEY MOVE FORWARD,
FIGURING OUT HOW THE EVENTS ARE
GOING TO BE PLANNED THAT THAT'S
ONE OF THE THINGS ADVERTISING
CLEANUP, SETUP WOULD BE A PART
OF THAT ON GOING DISCUSSION.
>> I MEANT THE DECISION MAKING
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO ALLOW
AN EVENT IN THIS PUBLIC SPACE
IS THE QUESTION I WAS ASKING.
>> NO.
THEY DON'T GET TO CURATE THE
EVENTS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, IF I MAY
RESPOND.
JUST FOR THE READ, IAN MORRISON
ON BEHALF OF THE BSOP
APPLICANT.
THERE IS NO INTENTION ON BEHALF
OF THE APPLICANT TO CHARGE FOR
PARKING OF THOSE STALLS DURING
THE TERM PERMIT PERIOD.
IT'S NOT THE APPLICANT'S
INTENTION NOR DESIRE TO BE THE
CURATOR OF EVENTS.
WE WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH SDOT
TO ASK IF THERE IS AN EVENT
THAT MAYBE THERE'S AN
ADDITIONAL LIABILITY RIDER THAT
BENEFITS US IF THERE'S SOME
SORT OF INCIDENT ON THAT, BUT
BESIDES THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO
SDOT TO PROGRAM THAT PUBLIC
SPACE JUST LIKE IT WOULD WITH
THE NORMAL STREET USE PERMIT OR
FESTIVAL PERMIT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THIS IS JULIA.
I DO HAVE ONE YOU ASKED FOR THE
NUMBERS AND THE BACK OF NAPKIN
NUMBERS AS AMY MENTIONED.
WE DON'T HAVE DOLLARS
NECESSARILY ASSOCIATED BUT FROM
A IN YOUR OPINIONS STANDPOINT
THE PUBLIC PLAZA IS ABOUT 5000
SQUARE FEET.
WE HAVE TO INCLUDE PROVIDE
ALLOCATION FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS
AROUND THE BUILDING IN ANY
DESIGN.
IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE THAT
CIRCULATION THAT WOULD BE
REQUIRED NO MATTER.
THE TERM PERMIT STALLS BEING
CONTEMPLATED TOTAL ABOUT 2000
SQUARE FEET.
THE NUMBERS WE DO HAVE
AVAILABLE IF THAT HELPS.
>> THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANKS FOR ALL THE
QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE LISH POINTING OUT
IN HIS MEMO WHAT THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE HAS US LOOK AT
WHEN EVALUATING THESE PROJECTS
AS WELL.
I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY
LEADERS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING
ON THIS FOR YEARS.
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS,
SDOT FOR CREATING THIS,
ENABLING US TO CREATE THIS
PUBLIC PLAZA THAT SOMEBODY ELSE
WILL PAY THE OPERATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE FOR WHICH IS I
THINK A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE
COMMUNITY.
SO IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS ON THIS, THE
RESOLUTION I'D LIKE TO MOVE
THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 31988
WHICH IS ITEM 2 ON OUR AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
RECOMMENDED PASSAGE OF THIS
RESOLUTION.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
OKAY.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION OF RESOLUTION
31988 WHEN APPROVED FOR
FORWARDING TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> JUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> MORALES. MORALES.
>> SORRY.
YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION IS
THAT THE RESOLUTION BE SENT FOR
APPROVAL TO THE MARCH 8th CITY
COUNCIL MEETING.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR
CALLING IN AND ANSWERING ALL OF
OUR QUESTIONS.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> BYE.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ
THE SHORT TITLE OF THE NEXT
AGENDA ITEM INTO THE RECORD.
>> COUNCIL BILL 120009.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
CITY'S 2021 BUDGET AMENDING
ORDINANCE 126237, WHICH ADOPTED
THE 2021 BUDGET, INCLUDING THE
2021-2026 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROGRAM.
FOR BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
WE HEARD FROM SOME KEY SPEAKERS
IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
WE ALSO RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM
THE TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD
COCHAIR IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
I KNOW SDOT HAS DONE A LOT OF
WORK PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
ONE TIME RESERVE FUNDING LEFT
OVER FROM THE 2014
TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT
DISTRICT.
THIS PROPOSAL WAS ANNOUNCED BY
THE EXECUTIVE ON FEBRUARY 1st.
THE PLAN RECENTLY SECURED THE
BOARD WHICH OVERSEES SPENDING.
SO WE HAVE CALVIN CHOW HERE
WITH US WHO IS OUR
TRANSPORTATION EXPERT.
WE HAVE SDOT WHO IS GOING TO
GIVE A PRESENTATION.
CALVIN, DID YOU WANT TO START
OFF?
>> I THINK WE SHOULD GO THROUGH
THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE
AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
IF THEY COME UP.
>> OKAY.
LET'S HEAR FROM OUR SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
SDOT AND SEE THEIR
PRESENTATION.
>> CERTAINLY.
THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO PULL THIS
PRESENTATION UP IN A MOMENT.
I AM CANDIDA LORENZANA AND HERE
WITH ME IS DOMENICO MARTINUCCI.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT STBD
AND AS IT RELATES TO.
IN OUR CONVERSATION WE'RE GOING
TO HIT ON IMPLEMENTATION
TIMELINE.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH
STBD TYPICALLY.
LEVEL SET OF WHERE WE ARE.
THE BACKGROUND OF BEHIND THE
REVENUES AND THE $60 VEHICLE
LICENSE FEE.
OUR WORK WITH THE TRANSIT
ADVISORY BOARD ON THE PROPOSAL
BEFORE YOU AND DISCUSS THE
PROPOSED SPEND PLAN AND PROJECT
LIST WITH YOU.
TWO WEEKS AGO WE WERE HERE TO
TALK ABOUT THE METRO AND SDOT
TRANSIT FUNDING SERVICE
AGREEMENT.
I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THIS
COMMITTEE PROVIDED FOR THAT
AGREEMENT.
IT PASSED IN A MINUTE ,
PLEASELY AT KING COUNTY COUNCIL
YESTERDAY.
SDOT IS GOING TO BEGIN MOVING
THAT FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON
THAT.
TODAY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT
THIS BUDGET LEGISLATION TO
SPEND STBD RESERVES.
SDOT IS CONTINUING ITS WORK ON
A SPEND PLAN PROPOSAL FOR THE
VLF THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH
THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT WILL
COME BEFORE YOU AROUND THE
BEGINNING OF APRIL.
NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF
THE VARIOUS RESOURCES INVOLVED.
ESSENTIALLY THERE ARE FOUR
BUCKETS.
THE FIRST IS A 2010 $20 VLF
WHICH CONTINUES INDEFINITELY.
THERE IS THE VOTER APPROVED
2014 MEASURE WHICH EXPIRED AT
THE END OF 2020 AND WAS FUNDED
BY A .1% SALES TAX AND A $60
VLF.
THERE'S THE NEW MEASURE WHICH
WAS PASSED LAST YEAR AND
EXPIRES IN 2027 THAT IS A .15%
SALES TAX.
FUNDS A PROGRAM ATTIC EXTENSION
OF MANY OTHER PROGRAMS.
LASTLY THERE IS A ADDITIONAL
COUNCIL VLF THAT COUNCIL PASSED
THAT WOULD CONTINUE
INDEFINITELY.
WE BASICALLY HAVE A MIX OF VOTE
AEROAPPROVED RESOURCES WHEN IT
COMES TO SEATTLE TRANSPORTATION
BENEFIT DISTRICT.
NEXT SLIDE.
SO LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY HERE.
THE $60 VLF WAS IMPACTED BY THE
PATSAGE OF I 976.
REMOVED THE ABILITY OF THE CITY
AND TBD STATEWIDE TO COLLECT
VEHICLE LICENSE FEE.
THIS MEASURE PASSED STATEWIDE.
CITY OF SEATTLE VOTERS ACTUALLY
VOTED IT DOWN CITY OF SEATTLE
CHALLENGED THE INITIATIVE.
AN INJUNCTION ALLOWED US TO
CONTINUE TO COLLECT THE $60 VLF
FUNDS.
SO WE SET THOSE ASIDE.
IF A LEGAL CHALLENGE WAS
UNSUCCESSFUL.
OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR THE
WASHINGTON STATE SUPREME COURT
STRUCK DOWN I-976 MAKING THE
RESERVE FUNDS AVAILABLE.
I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO
NICO.
>> THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE
TODAY.
SO IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE
SUPREME COURT'S DECISION WE
BEGAN TO ENGAGE THE TRANSIT
ADVISORY BOARD AND OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE ON A PROPOSED
PROPOSAL FOR PROGRAMMING THESE
RECENTLY RESTORED FUNDS.
THE TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD IS
THE OVERSIGHT BODY FOR THE
BENEFIT DISTRICT PROPOSITION
ONE.
ALTHOUGH THE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE TYPICALLY OVERSEES
SPENDING OF LEVY FUNDS.
OUR PROCESS HERE COINCIDED WITH
THE COVID-19.
THAT RECOMMENDED REDUCTION OR
PAUSING OF MANY DIFFERENT
PROJECTS THAT WERE LEVY
DELIVERY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE
OF YEARS.
WE SAW A NATURAL FIT TO BEGIN
WITH RESTORING PROJECTS WITHIN
THAT LIST.
THAT FIT WITHIN THE CRITERIA WE
HEARD.
IN TERMS OF THOSE CRITERIA.
WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR AS SOME
OF YOU HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT
TODAY.
AS WAS INNUMERATED YESTERDAY.
WE HEARD A REAL STRONG INTEREST
IN FOCUSING ON RESTORING
TRANSIT PROJECTS AND OTHERWISE
THOSE WITH A CLEAR TRANSIT
NEXUS.
MORE GENERALLY TO MAINTAIN THE
VOTER APPROVED MEASURE UNDER
WHICH THESE FUNDS WERE
INITIALLY COLLECTED.
JUST TO REITERATE AS YOU SAW
YESTERDAY, SUPPORTIVE OF THE
PROPOSED PLAN WE HAVE IN FRONT
OF YOU TODAY.
LET'S DIVE INTO THAT PROPOSAL.
IT'S BROKEN INTO THREE PARTS.
PROJECT RESTORATION, TRANSIT
SERVICE AND STRATEGIC RESERVES.
WE'LL TALK MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT
PROJECT RESTORATION.
ON THIS SLIDE I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THE OTHER ITEMS.
THE NEW PROPOSITION ONE
APPROVED IN NOVEMBER DOES NOT
BEGIN REVENUE COLLECTION UNTIL
APRIL OF THIS YEAR.
WE ARE IN A THREE MONTH LULL
BETWEEN THE END OF THE LAST
MEASURE.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO FUND
TRANSIT SERVICE ON THE ROAD
TODAY.
TRANSIT SERVICE THAT WAS
INITIALLY ADDED DURING THE 2014
POP PROPOSITION ONE.
WE HAVE AN ON GOING COMMITMENT
TO FUND INTO THE FUTURE AND
INTO THE NEW PROPOSITION ONE.
SO THIS $5 MILLION ALLOCATION
HELPS FILL THAT FUNDING GAP.
HELPS US DELIVER ON THOSE
COMMITMENTS EVEN WHILE WE ARE
NOT COLLECTING REVENUE.
THE $6 MILLION IN STRAY 22 JIG
RESERVES.
WE EAT ASIDE DURING THE
PROPOSITION 1. HAVING THOSE
FUNDS ON HAND GOING INTO THE
OVERLAPPING UNCERTAINTIES OF
2020 WAS REALLY CRITICAL IN
ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE TO
DELIVER ALL OF THOSE SERVICES
THAT WE DELIVER THROUGH THE
SEATTLE TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT
PROPOSITION ONE.
SO WITH THESE LESSONS IN MIND
WE ARE HOPING TO SET ASIDE
ADDITIONAL RESERVE FUNDING OVER
THE LIFE OF THE PROGRAM.
THE $6 MILLION WOULD BE A SEED
THAT WOULD GROW AS WE SET ASIDE
MORE EVERY YEAR.
THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO NOT ONLY
ACCOUNT FOR ANY SWINGS IN
REVENUE COLLECTION BUT AT THE
END OF THE PROGRAM HELP US RAMP
DOWN OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF
TIME.
NEXT SLIDE.
BEFORE WE GET INTO PROJECT
RESTORATION I WANTED TO SHOW
WHAT THESE TWO ALLOCATIONS LOOK
LIKE IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR
OVERALL PLAN.
THE 2021 BAR AS WE TRIED TO
HIGHLIGHT THE BOTTOM JUST
REPRESENTS APRIL THROUGH
DECEMBER.
NEARING THAT PERIOD OF REVENUE
COLLECTION FOR THE NEW
PROPOSITION ONE.
THE TWO BOXES WITH THE WHITE
ASTERISKS REPRESENT THESE TWO
ALLOCATIONS.
5MILLION FOR TRANSIT SERVICE
AND 6 MILLION FOR RESERVE
FUNDS.
FOR TRANSIT SERVICE HAVING
LIGHT SLIGHTLY TALLER BAR.
REPRESENTSONLY THREE QUARTERS
OF TRANSIT SERVICE SPENDING.
MAKES THIS YEAR'S TRANSIT
EXPENDITURES LOOK MORE LIKE
2022.
WITHOUT THAT MONEY WE WOULD BE
UNDERSPENDING THIS YEAR.
ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT IMMEDIATELY
APPARENT, HAVING THE $6 MILLION
RESERVE SET ASIDE IN 2021
ALLOWS THE RESERVE FUND SET
ASIDE WHICH IS REPRESENTED BY
THE SMALLER GRAY BOXES.
ALLOWS THOSE SET ASIDES TO BE
SMALLER ESSENTIALLY.
THOSE BY VIRTUE OF THOSE WE'RE
ABLE TO DIVERT ADDITIONAL
TRANSIT SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE
LIFE OF THE PROGRAM.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
IS IT OKAY IF IT WE WAIT UNTIL
THE END OF THE PRESENTATION?
THEY MIGHT GET ANSWERED.
OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
THESE ARE SPLIT ACROSS TWO
SLIDES.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH AND
GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT
EACH OF THESE LINES REPRESENT.
IF THERE ARE MORE SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS, WE'RE HAPPY TO
ANSWER THOSE.
HAPPY TO PROVIDE FOLLOWUP
INFORMATION IF IT THERE'S
SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE ON
HAND.
THE FIRST ITEM IS TWO PROJECTS.
THESE WERE PLANNED FOR DELIVERY
UNDER OUR TRANSIT SPOT
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
ONE IS ON GILLMAN AVENUE.
SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IMPROVING
PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS AND
SIDEWALK CONDITIONS AS WELL AS
IMPROVING BUS BIKE INTERACTION
ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
SECOND PRONG IS A BUS STOP
IMPROVEMENT AND EXPANSION.
THIS IS A VERY HIGH VOLUME STOP
THAT ROUTINELY SERVES TWO
COACHES AT THE SAME TIME.
>> OKAY.
>> THIS PROJECT IN ADDITION TO
A BUNCH OF IMPROVEMENTS.
OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WILL LARGELY
INCREASE THAT CAPACITY.
SAFELY AND COMFORTABLY SERVE AS
STOPS.
THE SECOND ITEM ON THIS SLIDE
IS A PROGRAMATTIC ALLOCATION
FOR THE TRANSIT SPOT.
THIS IS NOT TIED DIRECTLY TO
INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS TODAY.
WHAT THIS DOES IS FILLS A
REDUCTION MADE IN FUTURE
FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM.
SO THIS ALLOCATION WILL ENSURE
THAT THE TRANSIT SPOT
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM CAN
CONTINUE TO DELIVER MANY OF THE
GREAT PROJECTS THEY DO.
THE TRANSIT SPOT IMPROVEMENT
PROGRAM WILL DELIVER THE TWO
PROJECTS JUST MENTIONED BUT
GENERALLY DELIVERS RED BUS
LANES, REAR DOOR BUS PADS.
STOP IMPROVEMENTS.
SIGNAL UPGRADES.
ANYTHING THAT COULD BENEFIT
TRANSIT ON THE PROGRAM.
FINAL ITEM IS ON ALLOCATION FOR
THE ROUTE 40 TRANSIT PLUS
MOBILE CORRIDOR PROJECT WHICH
IS HERE TO FILL AN EXPECTED GAP
IN GRANT FUNDING FOR THE
PROGRAM.
THIS REALLY HELPS THE ROUTE 40
PROJECT STAY ON SCHEDULE WHICH
WE'LL SEE DESIGN COMPLETION IN
2022 AND DELIVERY IN 2023.
SELECTION SLIDE PLEASE.
TOP OF THE SLIDE HERE IS A
SMALL ALLOCATION FOR PPMC.
THIS WILL HELP FUND A GAP IN
THE DRP CONCEPT DESIGN WHICH
FUNDS STAFF AND TECHNICAL
RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THE
OVERALL PROGRAM.
SIMILAR TO THE ROUTE 40
ALLOCATION.
HELPING TO KEEP THE PROGRAM.
SECOND IS A FUNDING RESTORATION
FOR 16th AVENUE NORTHWEST AND
NORTHWEST MARKET STREET SIGNAL
IMPROVEMENT.
WHICH WILL HECHT SUPPORT
TRANSIT SIGNAL PRIORITY
ENHANCEMENTS.
THE TWO WORTH MENTIONING ARE
THE ROUTE 44 AND THE RAPID RISE
LINE WHICH ARE TWO OF OUR HIGH
FREQUENCY AND RIDERSHIP ROUTES.
A LARGE ALLOCATION FOR THE
23rd AVENUE PHASE THREE BUDGET.
INCLUDING CROSSING
IMPROVEMENTS, SOME MINOR TAPING
MAINTENANCE.
SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS.
BENEFITING TRANSIT WHICH HAS A
DIFFICULT TERM.
IN TOTAL THESE SIX, REALLY
SEVEN ITEMS ADD UP TO THAT
$12.7 MILLION ALLOCATION THAT I
MENTIONED EARLIER.
WITH THAT I'M GOING TO HAND IT
BACK OFF.
>> SO THIS IS JUST A REMINDER
OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHEN
WE'RE COMING BACK.
SO TODAY THIS CONVERSATION IS
PRIMARILY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS
LEGISLATION.
AND LOOKING TO COME BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE BEGINNING OF APRIL
WITH A $20 VLF SPENDING PLAN.
WITH THAT CONCLUDES OUR
PRESENTATION.
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS HAS
QUESTIONS, AS DOES
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
COUNCILMEMBER
.
>> THANK YOU.
GREAT TO HEAR.
CANDIDA, GREAT PRESENTATIONS
TODAY.
MY QUESTIONS ARE ON NINE, TEN,
AND THE LAST SLIDE.
THIS IS THE TRANSIT SPOT
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
MY QUESTIONS ARE A SHARED
PRIORITY.
ROUTE 44, SPOT IMPROVEMENTS WERE
CREATED AND WE UNDERSTAND IN THE
LAST BUDGET CYCLE THAT THE
DOLLARS, COUNCIL BACKFILLED WHAT
HAD BEEN TRANSPORTATION FUNDED
PROJECTS.
WE BACKED IT WITH THE GENERAL
FUND.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE ABILITY FOR
US TO USE THE 976 MONEY TO FUND
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS SO THAT
WE CAN FREE UP GENERAL FUNDS TO
USE ON MANY OTHER IMPORTANT
NEEDS THAT THE CITY FUNDS THE
GENERAL FUND?
IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'LL JUST
SPEAK TO MARKET ARE OTHER
PROJECTS THAT RECEIVED REDUCED
FUNDING.
CAN YOU SPEAK ABOUT RESTORING
FUNDING TO THOSE SPOTS?
THANK YOU.
>> CAN I TAKE THAT ONE, CANDIDA?
>> I WASN'T SURE IF CAL HAD
SOMETHING TO ADD.
>> THANK YOU.
IF I CAN JUST START THEN, I
GUESS.
THE FIRST THING I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THESE FUNDS
ARE RESERVES OF PROPOSITION WUND
FUNDS.
IT HAS TO BE USED FOR TRANSIT
UNDER WHAT THE VOTERS APPROVED
WHEN THEY FIRST GAVE US THE
MONEY.
THERE IS, IT COULD NOT BE USED
FOR SOME OF THE OTHER
TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS
THAT DID NOT SUPPORT IMPROVED
TRANSIT SPEED RELIABILITY AND
CAPACITY.
I THINK, TO THE EXTENT THERE ARE
OTHER GENERAL FUNDS OR OTHER
REVENUES IN THE SDOT BUDGET THAT
SUPPORT THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS,
THIS TYPE OF FUNDING COULD
DISPLACE THOSE GENERAL FUNDS.
>> I'LL ALSO ADD A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY A
QUESTION OF TIMING.
THE 2021 BUDGET PROCESS WAS
SOMETHING THAT WE HAD IN OUR
MINDS AND IN CONSIDERATION AND
APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S ACTION TO
RESTORE BOTH THE ROUTE 44, THE
ROUTE 7, AND THERE IS ONE MORE.
I'M SORRY.
I'M FORGETTING IT.
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT, BUT
AT THE POINT IN WHICH WE KNEW
THAT THE FUNDS WERE AVAILABLE,
THERE WERE A LOT OF
UNCERTAINTIES AND FACTORS TO
CONSIDER.
OUR CONVERSATION WITH TAB,
FRANKLY, HAPPENED TOWARDS THE
END THROUGH NOVEMBER AND
DECEMBER.
WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE, AND THEM
UNDERSTANDING WITH THE KNOWLEDGE
THAT THOSE PROJECTS WERE
RESTORED BY COUNCIL.
I THINK THE OTHER FACTOR HERE,
TOO, IS AFTER UNDERSTANDING THAT
976 HAD BEEN OVERTURNED, WE HAD
THE BALLOT MEASURE ON THE BALLOT
AND HAD THAT FAILED, THE FUNDS
WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE FOR ANY PROJECTS BUT
INSTEAD WOULD HAVE TO BE USED TO
HELP US RAMP DOWN SERVICE
LEVELS.
>> IF I COULD ALSO, I JUST TOOK
A QUICK LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE
SOURCE OF FUNDING IS FOR SOME OF
THOSE, THE ROUTE 7, THE ROUTE
44.
IT WAS REAL ESTATE EXCISE TASK
THAT WAS USED.
IT WAS NOT GENERAL FUND THAT
THEY USED TO SUPPORT THE
PROJECTS.
>> HELPFUL CLARIFICATION.
THE QUESTION STILL STANDS, ROUTE
44 SPECIFICALLY IS
TRANSPORTATION OR TRANSIT,
RELATED.
ARE WE ABLE TO FREE UP THE
DOLLARS FOR OTHER USES OR CAL,
AM I OUT OF MY LANE HERE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER, I THINK THE
FUNDING WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR
THE ROUTE 44 PROJECT.
THERE IS, IN 2021, 500,000 REAL
ESTATE EXCISE TAX IN THE PROJECT
THAT COULD BE SHIFTED.
>> GREAT, SO I GUESS NICO OR
CANDIDA, ARE THOSE WE CAN UNDER
TAKE?
WHAT DO I NEED TO DO OR ARE
THERE OTHER FOLKS I NEED TO
SPEAK WITH?
>> IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO
CHANGE THE PROJECTS ON THE LIST,
SOMETHING WOULD NEED TO COME
OFF.
ESPECIALLY IF IT RELATES TO
CAPITAL RESTORATION.
THIS HAS BEEN WELL VETTED AND
SUPPORTED BY THE LEVY OVER SIGHT
COMMITTEE AND TRANSIT ADVISORY
BOARD AND I THINK IT WOULD BE
IMPORTANT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE
SURE OUR STAKE HOLDERS HAVE AN
UNDERSTANDING OF ANY POTENTIAL
CHANGES THE COUNCIL MAY BE
INTERESTED IN MAKING.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
I GUESS I'LL TAKE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I'M GLAD
WE'RE GETTING ROUTE 44 FUNDED
EVEN IF IT IS NOT WITH THE
ORIGINAL FUNDING SOURCE AND
LET'S GET ALL OF THE PROJECTS
GOING WHICH BRINGS ME TO SLIDE
TEN.
I PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THE
ANSWER, I FIGURE I WOULD ASK IT
ANYWAYS.
MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT MADISON
VRT DOES NOT FALL UNDER THIS,
WE'RE WAITING ON FEDERAL FUNDS
KCHLT YOU CONFIRM THAT $976 ARE
NOT WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON TO GET
MADISON BUS RAPID TRANSIT
RUNNING, THAT IT IS, IN FACT,
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
>> YOU'RE CORRECT.
>> YUP.
>> SORRY, CAL.
>> THAT'S IT.
YES.
YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE GRANT
FROM THE FTA.
ALL LOCAL FUNDS HAVE BEEN
SECURED.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK
ON THAT.
LAST QUESTION FOR THE QUESTIONS
PAGE, HOW DO WE BUY MORE
TRANSIT?
HOW DO WE BUY MORE SERVICE
HOURS?
I WANT ALL OF THE SERVICE HOURS.
>> YEAH, THAT IS A GREAT
QUESTION.
I'LL SAY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF
PROP ONE, WE ARE LIMITED BY THE
REVENUE THAT WE ARE BRINGING IN
FROM THE VOTER APPROVED MEASURE.
POINT YOU BACK TO THE SPEND
PLAN, WE'RE EXPECTING TO RAM UP
THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE
PURCHASING UNDER THE PROGRAM AS
WE EXPECT SALES TAX REVENUE TO
INCREASE AS THE PROGRAM MATURES.
OBVIOUSLY SALES TAX IS A FICKLE
FRIEND AS WE HAVE LEARNED ON THE
DOWN SIDE OF 2020.
IT IS VERY POWERFUL.
THAT CAN SWING IN THE OPPOSITE
DIRECTION AS WE SAW IN 2018 AND
2019 AND SO IF THOSE PROJECTIONS
OR I SHOULD SAY, IF REVENUE
BEATS THE PROJECTIONS, CERTAINLY
WE CAN DIRECT AS MUCH OF THAT
ADDITIONAL REVENUE TOWARDS MORE
TRANSIT SERVICE AS THE PROGRAM
CONTINUES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU.
THOSE ARE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, DO YOU
WANT TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS NOW?
OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS WITH
QUESTIONS.
>> IT TOOK ME A MINUTE TO GET
OFF OF MUTE.
LOOKING AT SLIDE EIGHT, AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT THE SLIDE
CAPTURES NOT ONLY THE RESERVES
THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY BUT
FUNDING UNDER THE PLAN THAT IS
YET TO COME TO US, BUT AS I
UNDERSTAND IT, EVEN THOUGH IT
SAYS APRIL TO DECEMBER, APRIL TO
DECEMBER IS REALLY ABOUT WHEN
THE NEW REVENUE IS GOING TO BE
AVAILABLE.
I HAVE QUESTIONS BOTH AS IT
RELATES TO THE $5 MILLION IN
TRANSIT SERVICE THAT THIS ACTION
ALLOCATES AS WELL AS THE NEW
DOLLARS THAT WON'T BE COLLECTED
UNTIL APRIL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE OF THE
FACT THAT METRO DOES SERVICE
ADJUSTMENTS IN MARCH AND
SEPTEMBER THAT THIS ADDITIONAL
TRANSIT SERVICE IS NOT GOING TO
BE AVAILABLE UNTIL SEPTEMBER.
THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME BECAUSE
AS IT RELATES, IF YOU TAKE A
LOOK, FOR INSTANCE, JUST AS ONE
EXAMPLE AND THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE
THAT IS TOP OF MIND FOR ME, THE
EMERGING NEEDS CATEGORY FOR WEST
SEATTLE AND COVID RECOVERY IS A
FAIRLY SMALL SLIVER OF DOLLARS
FOR 2021 AS COMPARED TO 2022.
I THINK OUR GREATEST NEEDS
AROUND THE WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE
CLOSURE ARE GOING TO BE COMING
LATER THIS YEAR BEFORE
SEPTEMBER.
I SAY BEFORE SEPTEMBER IN LIGHT
OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW,
PRESIDENT BIDEN ANNOUNCED
YESTERDAY THAT ALL ADULTS WILL
HAVE SHOTS IN THEIR ARMS BY THE
END OF MAY, SO THAT IS GOING TO
BE IMPACTING WHEN PEOPLE ARE
WORKING LESS FROM HOME AND
COMMUTING MORE AND RELYING ON
SERVICE, TRANSIT SERVICE MORE.
I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE ANY
FLEXIBILITY AT ALL TO ADD
SERVICE SOONER THAN SEPTEMBER?
>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND
I THINK SOMETHING THAT IS TOP OF
MIND FOR US AS WELL.
BRIEFLY WE'RE PLANNING ON MAKING
A SIZABLE INVESTMENT IN
SEPTEMBER WHICH WILL -- ALTHOUGH
IT COMES LATER THAN WE HOPE IT
WILL ALLOW US TO ADD MORE THAN
WE OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BECAUSE
WE'LL BE FUNDING FOR A SHORTER
PERIOD OF TIME, HENCE THE
SLIGHTLY LARGER ALLOCATION IN
2022.
I'LL REMIND METROBUSS ARE STILL
OPERATING AT 20% CAPACITY AT AN
ARTIFICIAL LIMIT.
METRO IS IN AN INTERNAL PROCESS
TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE RIGHT
TIMING AS WE'RE BEGINNING TO
LIFT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE.
WE EXPECT THAT THOSE CAPACITY
RESTRICTIONS LIFTING OVER SOME
PERIOD OF TIME WILL BE PROBABLY
THE PRIMARY FACTOR IN ABSORBING
A LOT OF THAT RETURNING DEMAND
TO THE SYSTEM.
OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT PRECOVID,
THE BUSES, ESPECIALLY A LOT OF
THE PEAK ROUTES WERE FULL IN THE
MORNING, FULL IN THE AFTERNOONS
COMING HOME.
I THINK WE'RE ANTICIPATING AND
OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL DEPEND ON A
LOT OF FACTORS BUT WE'RE
ANTICIPATING SOME CONTINUED WORK
FROM HOME PERCENTAGE, MAYBE
HIGHER THAN PRECOVID LEVELS
WHICH I THINK WILL HELP TO
SOFTEN THAT RETURN TO WORK, THE
INCREASE IN DEMAND AS PEOPLE
RETURN TO WORK AND RETURN TO
JOBS AROUND THE CITY.
WHILE WE MAY BE REACHING A
PRETTY HIGH VACCINATION RATE BY,
SAY, EARLY SUMMER, LATE MAY,
THAT I THINK THERE IS SOME ROOM
TO ABSORB THAT.
I'LL SAY ON THE METRO SIDE AS
WELL.
THEY HAVE SOME SUPPLEMENTAL
SERVICE.
HOURS THAT THEY SET ASIDE EVERY
SERVICE CHANGE TO RESPOND TO
UNEXPECTED DEMANDS IN THE
SYSTEM.
IT IS NOT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT BUT
IT IS -- IT HAS PROVEN TO BE AN
IMPORTANT TOOL THAT THEY HAVE
USED IN THE PAST TO ADDRESS
WHERE SORT OF THOSE CROWDING
NEEDS ARE THE GREATEST AND WE
FULLY EXPECT THAT, IF THAT IS
SEEN ON WEST SEATTLE ROUTES
COMING, THAT IS A TOOL THEY WILL
USE TO HELP DRAFT THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBERS, ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS?
I WANT TO THANK SDOT FOR ALL OF
THEIR WORK, OUTREACHING TO THE
OFFICIAL AND UNOFFICIAL STAKE
HOLDERS FOR THE FUNDS.
THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, ALL
OF THE WORK THAT YOU DID, THE
THOUGHT YOU WENT THROUGH TO LOOK
AT WHAT PROJECTS NEEDED TO BE
PAUSED, UNPAUSED.
CALVIN CHOW WAS HELPFUL IN THIS.
THANK YOU FOR SHEPHERDING THIS
TO THE PROCESS AND SO THE
COMMITTEE COULD VOTE ON IT
TODAY.
SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COUNCIL
BILL 120009, ITEM THREE ON THE
AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT HAS BEEN PROVED AND SECONDED
TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE
BILL.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION THAT COUNCIL BILL
120009 BE APPROVED FOR
FORWARDING TO THE FULL COUNCIL?
>> HERBOLD?
>> YES.
>> JUAREZ?
>> AYE.
>> MORALES?
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS?
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN?
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT
THE BILL BE SENT FOR APPROVAL TO
THE MARCH 8TH CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
THANKS, EVERYBODY, FROM SDOT AND
CENTRAL STAFF.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
TITLEOF THE NEXT THREE AGENDA
ITEMS REGARDING SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY INTO THE RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEMS FOUR THROUGH
SIX.
COUNCIL BILL 120002.
AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION, AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORTS FOR
SEATTLE CITY LIGHTS USE OF
CURRENT DIVERSION TECHNOLOGY.
COUNCIL BILL 120003.
AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION, AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT
FOR THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT'S USE OF COMPUTER
AIDED DISPATCH.
COUNCIL BILL 120004.
AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION, AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORTS FOR
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
USE OF SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGIES.
FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU.
SO WE HAVE SEVERAL FOLKS HERE,
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT AND FROM THE
DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THE
EXISTING TECHNOLOGIES FOR WHICH
WE'LL EVENTUALLY APPROVE
SURVEILLANCE, IMPACT REPORTS ON.
I HAVE A SHORT VERSION
INTRODUCTION.
I'LL GIVE THE LONGER VERSION TO
SET THE TABLE AND PROVIDE
CONTEXT FOR THESE PRESENTATIONS
TODAY.
WE HAD AN OVER VIEW PRESENTATION
FROM OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT A FEW WEEKS AGO TO
LAY OUT THE LENGTHY PROCESS
INVOLVED FOR APPROVING
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORTS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO
GET INTO TODAY.
WE'RE BREAKING IT INTO THREE
PIECES WITH EACH OF THE THREE
DEPARTMENTS GETTING ITS OWN
COUNCIL BILL, SO I'LL ASK YOU TO
HOLD YOUR QUESTIONS UNTIL THE
END OF EACH OF THE THREE
PRESENTATIONS SO YOU'LL GET AT
LEAST THREE TIMES TO ASK
QUESTIONS.
WE WILL HEAR THE PRESENTATIONS
TODAY, ASK QUESTIONS.
WE CAN VOTE ON AMENDMENTS AND
THE ORDINANCES ON THE NEXT
MEETING.
TO VOTE ON AMENDMENTS AT THE
MARCH 17TH COMMITTEE, WE WANT TO
HAVE THE AMENDMENTS INTO CENTRAL
STAFF, LISE KAYE, NO LATER THAN
TODAY.
WE HAVE THE REPORTS TO THE
INTRODUCTION REFERRAL CALENDARS
APPROVED LAST WEEK, MONDAY,
JANUARY 22nd, SO WE WOULD HAVE A
LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THESE
FOR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
SOME BACKGROUND, SURVEILLANCE,
IT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE AND HOW
SURVEILLANCE IS DEFINED BY 14.1A
.010.
2 IS DEFINED AS TECHNOLOGIES
THAT OBSERVE AND ANALYZE THE
MOVEMENTS AND BEHAVIOR AND
ACTIONS OF IDENTIFIABLE
INDIVIDUALS.
THAT IS AN SMC.
THAT IS BASED ON THE SO-CALLED
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE WHICH WAS
ORIGINALLY PASSED IN 2017 AND
THEN AMENDED IN 2018.
THIS DEFINITION OF SURVEILLANCE
IS IMPORTANT AS WE CONSIDER WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN
REVIEWING AND APPROVING THE
THREE ORDINANCES.
IF THE DISCUSSION OF THE
TECHNOLOGY GENERATES OTHER
POLICY MATTERS NOT RELATED TO
SURVEILLANCE, THEN WE MAY WANT
TO CONSIDER HAVING A THE
RELEVANT COMMITTEES TAKE UP
THOSE NON-SURVEILLANCE POLICY
ITEMS BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSING ON
THE SURVEILLANCE ASPECT TODAY.
I BELIEVE WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE
TRADE OFFS WHEN REVIEWING THE
EXISTING TECHNOLOGIES ALREADY
BEING USED BY THE CITY
GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS.
TECHNOLOGY WITH THE ABILITY TO
CONDUCT SURVEILLANCE IF MISUSED
OR UNACCOUNTABLE IS DETRIMENTAL
TO LIBERTY AND PRIVACY.
AT THE SAME TIME, ANY OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES, IF USED PROPERLY
AND WITH ACCOUNTABILITY ENABLES
CITY GOVERNMENT TO SAVE MONEY
AND IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AND
DELIVER SERVICES FOR THE
RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OF OUR
CITY.
I WANT TO THANK CARA FROM OUR
STAFF FOR WORKING WITH THE
SEATTLE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT.
I WANT TO THANK OMARI STRINGER
AND GINGER ARMBRUSTER.
ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT
WORKED TO PUT TOGETHER THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORTS.
ONE OF THE CONSISTENT
SUGGESTIONS FROM CENTRAL STAFF
IS TO HAVE US POTENTIALLY ADOPT
THE EXECUTIVE OVER VIEWS AS PART
OF THE COUNCIL BILLS SO THAT WE
CAPTURE THE ALLOWABLE PURPOSES
OF THE TECHNOLOGY.
THAT IS A CLEAR AND IMMEDIATE
WAY TO INSERT ADDITIONAL GUARD
RAILS FOR HOW THE TECHNOLOGY IS
USED.
VERY OPEN TO THAT APPROACH.
AT THE ENOF THE COMMITTEE TODAY,
WE MAY WANT TO HAVE CENTRAL
STAFF TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY
RECOMMEND IN TERMS OF
AMENDMENTS.
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT, I'M ALMOST DONE HERE, IT
IS ALMOST IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT
WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL BACK STOP
FOR THE USE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES
AND THAT IS THANKS TO SECTION
14.18.010 OF THE CODE.
THE SECTION REQUIRES THE OFFICE
OF INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY REGARDING POLICE
TECHNOLOGY AND OUR CITY AUDITOR
FOR ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO
CONDUCT ANNUAL REVIEWS OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES.
SO WE MAY WANT TO DIRECT THEM TO
FOCUS IN ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT
WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
THE CITY OF SEATTLE HAS ONE OF
THE STRONGEST SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCES IN THE COUNTRY AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO ENSURING THAT
THE REVIEW PROCESS IS CONDUCTED
ON THE EXISTING TECHNOLOGIES IN
A WAY THAT STILL ENABLES US TO
DELIVER GOVERNMENT SERVICES
WHILE BALANCING THE NEED FOR
PRIVACY AND PROTECTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME
HAVE THAT OVER VIEW AND I WOULD
LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR
CENTRAL STAFF ANALYST, LISE
KAYE, FOR ANY INTRODUCTORY
REMARKS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN, LISA GRESCI KAY ON
YOUR CENTRAL STAFF.
YOU GAVE A THOROUGH
INTRODUCTION.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE TO ADD
TO THAT.
I THINK GINGER AND OMARI WILL
GIVE AN OVER VIEW FROM THE
EXECUTIVE SIDE, JUST PRIOR TO
THEM, MY WALKING THROUGH THE
VARIOUS BILL, THE THREE BILLS,
IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER.
>> YES, SO WE'LL GET A
PRESENTATION FROM INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGIES DEPARTMENT AND THEN
WE'LL GET BACK TO LISE KAYE WHO
WILL HELP SET THE TABLE FURTHER
ON THESE COMPLEX REPORTS.
GINGER AND OMARI, WELCOME, AND
OTHERS FROM IBT.
>> OMARI WILL SHARE HIS SCREEN
TO SHOW YOU THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, OR
COUNCIL COMMITTEE PRESIDENT
CHAIR PEDERSEN, ALL OF THE
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, AND
CENTRAL STAFF, AS WELL AS ALL OF
THE COLLEAGUES WHO WORKED ON
THESE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORTS.
I'LL SPEND A FEW MINUTES
PROVIDING A LITTLE MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT OUR ROLE
IS IN I. T., HOW WE PULLED THESE
TOGETHER, WHAT IT TAKES TO BUILD
ONE OF THESE AND SOME OF THE
PIECES AND PARTS THAT HAVE BEEN
DELIVERED SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND
BETTER THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THESE
ARE.
OMARI, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT
SLIDE.
WHEN WE LAST CAME TO SPEAK TO
YOU AS COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN
MENTIONED IT WAS ON THE 20th OF
JANUARY.
WE PRESENTED WHAT IS THIS TO
REMIND EVERYBODY OF THE WORK
WE'LL GET INTO THIS YEAR.
WE PRESENTED AN OVER VIEW.
I THINK MOST OF YOU WERE
ATTENDANCE OR THE STAFF WAS
THERE.
HOPEFULLY YOU GOT PERSPECTIVE ON
WHAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT.
WE HAVE HAD TWO THINGS HAPPEN
SINCE THEN.
A LITTLE MORE THAN TWO BUT THE
TWO WE WANT TO BRING YOUR
ATTENTION IS GROUP TWO
LEGISLATION SUBMITTED TO
COUNCIL.
WE'LL WORK ON THE REST OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT WILL BE BEFORE
YOU THE REST OF THE YEAR.
GROUP THREE HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED
TO THE CITY CLERK AND IS GOING
THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS TO BE
BROUGHT TO YOU AND THIS
COMMITTEE IN THE FUTURE AND
REFORM CALENDAR WILL HAVE THOSE
DATES.
WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON GROUP
FOUR AND THIS IS JUST A PLACE
SETTER.
WE HAD TALKED TO YOU BACK IN
JANUARY ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
NEEDING MORE TIME TO COMPLETE
THE WORK.
WE WILL NEED MORE TIME TO
COMPLETE THE WORK.
THEY HAVE COME BACK FOR REQUESTS
FOR MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TIME
AND FOR THEM TO DO REVIEW.
WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT
TODAY.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH
PEDERSEN AND STAFF AROUND THAT
REQUEST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING
THAT APPROPRIATELY UNDERSTANDING
THE DUE DATE WAS THE FIRST OF
THIS MONTH.
WE'RE IN CONVERSATION NOW AND
WILL BE BACK TO YOU WITH MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
OKAY.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, OMARI.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN DID THIS
SO I DON'T HAVE TO READ THE
DEFINITION BUT HERE IS THE
DEFINITION ONE MORE TIME.
THERE ARE EXCLUSIONS AROUND
TECHNOLOGIES THAT ALREADY HAVE
OTHER LAWS ATTACHED TO THEM LIKE
BODY WORN CAMERAS AND POLICE
VEHICLE CAMERA AREA SECURITY
CAMERAS OR TECHNOLOGY THAT ONLY
MONITORS SOME EMPLOYEES.
IF FOLKS KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING,
THEY CAN SAY NO THANK YOU.
NOT SURVEILLANCE OR BY THIS
DEFINITION OF THE LAW.
THE INCLUSIONS SPEAK TO THE
CIVIL LIBERTIES IMPACTS AND USE
IN ANY SHARING OF INFORMATION
THAT WILL LEAD US TO INCLUDE.
PRETTY MUCH, IT IS A
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY, IF IT
MEETS THE DEFINITION, THERE ARE
NO EXCLUSIONS AND A REASONABLE
THOUGHT THAT THE INCLUSIONS MAY
APPLY.
THAT IS WHAT CONSTITUTED THE
MASTER LIST, WE CAME UP WITH 26
TECHNOLOGIES FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
OUR JOB IS TO PROJECT MANAGE
THESE SO THEY COME IN A FORM AND
FORMAT YOU'RE EXPECTING.
THEY'RE SUBMITTED.
WE'RE WORKING ON ONES THAT HAVE
BEEN IN USE IN THE CITY FOR
SEVERAL YEARS, SOME FOR DECADES.
THERE ARE THESE PARTS OF THE
SUR.
THIS IS A PRIVATE IMPACT
ASSESSMENT AND IT IS COMPROMISED
OF THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE
ANSWERED AROUND DATA COLLECTION
MANAGEMENT AND POLICY.
THERE ARE OVER 50 OF THOSE
QUESTIONS SO THAT IS THE BULK OF
THE HOW ARE WE COMPLYING WITH OR
WHAT ARE THE ISSUES AROUND
POLICY RELATED TO DATA COLLECTED
AND HOW IS THAT DONE?
THAT IS A BIG PART OF THE S. I.
R..
NEXT SPEAKS TO A COST BENEFIT
ANALYSIS.
WHAT DOES IT COST TO RUN THE
TECHNOLOGIES?
WE CONDUCT A VERSION OF THE
RACIAL EQUITY TOOL KIT YOU'RE
AWARE OF TO GET RID OF THE
DISPARITY USE OR CONCERNS IN THE
COMMUNITY.
THE NEXT IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
WE COLLECT COMMENTS AND ANALYSIS
TO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DONE OVER A
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AS WELL AS
ACTUAL EVENTS.
SOME USED TO BE IN PERSON, NOT
ANYMORE.
NOT THIS YEAR.
LAST YEAR.
THE NEXT IS A PRIVACY AND CIVIL
LIBERTIES IMPACT.
THAT IS THE BODY FROM THE FOLKS
FROM THE COMMUNITY.
ALMOST HALF APPOINTED BY THE
LEGISLATURE.
THE OTHER HALF BY EXECUTIVES
THAT COME TO GIVE US PERSPECTIVE
AND INPUT AND COMMENT ON THESE
CIVIL LIBERTIES PERSPECTIVE FROM
A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE.
THE NEXT IS A CTO RESPONSE AND
WE PACKAGE THIS TOGETHER WITH
WHAT COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN
MENTIONED, AN EXECUTIVE OVER
VIEW TO MAKE THIS MORE
ACCESSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO
UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE STUFF IN
THIS THING BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE
úSUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION POLICY
REFERENCES, A WHOLE LOT OF
STEPS.
SOME ARE QUITE LARGE, SOME ARE
SMALLER.
WE TRY TO GIVE AN SYNOPSIS.
THIS WILL HELP THE DEPARTMENTS
MAKE THESE PRESENTABLE TO YOU
ALL AND HELP MOVE ALONG THE
PROCESS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THESE TAKE TIME, AS YOU CAN
IMAGINE.
EIGHT TO NINE MONTHS AND LONGER
WITH THE REQUEST FROM THE
PUBLIC, FROM THE WORKING GROUP
TO ADD MORE TIME FOR PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT.
WE START WITH THE DRAFT OF THE
REVIEWS.
WE GO TO A PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD.
WE LOOK AT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS
TO LOOK FOR THEMES FOR THE
ORDINANCE REQUEST.
THE WORKING GROUP HAS A COUPLE
OF MONTHS TO LOOK AT THIS.
WE LOOK AT THIS ONE MORE TIME TO
SEE IF THERE ARE COMMENTS,
CHANGES OR POLICY UPDATES WE
WANT TO MAKE BASED ON THE
COMMENTS.
NOW WE'RE AT THE PART WHERE WE
BRING THESE TO YOU.
OKAY.
I BELIEVE WE'LL GET ONTO THE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE'RE
DISCUSSING TODAY.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS FOR SEATTLE
CITY LIGHT.
THREE TECHNOLOGIES THAT THEY
USE, BINOCULARS, CHECK METER
DEVICE.
THESE ARE USED BY THE CURRENT
DIVERSION TEAM.
THEY GO OUT AND DO
INVESTIGATIONS WHEN BILLING DOES
NOT EQUAL OR DOES NOT ADD UP FOR
THE USE OF ELECTRICITY, THEY GO
IN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS
HAPPENING.
THEY HAVE A WAY TO LOOK AT
METERS FROM A DISTANCE IF
THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET TO THE
METER DIRECTLY AND A WAY TO
MEASURE CURRENT ON THE
TECHNOLOGY THAT WE PROVIDE FROM
THE CITY SO WE CAN SEE WHERE THE
DISCREPANCY LIES.
THE NEXT IS THE ONLY TECHNOLOGY
THAT FIRE IS GOING TO SPEAK TO.
THAT IS THE COMPUTER AIDED
DISPATCH OR CAD TECHNOLOGY USED
TO INITIATE PUBLIC SAFETY LAWS
FIGURING OUT WHO TO DISPATCH,
WHAT RESEARCH IS REQUIRED IN
RESPONSE TO AN EMERGENCY.
WHILE THIS IS OPT IN, OBVIOUSLY,
WE'RE OPTING IN INFORMATION FOR
PEOPLE MAKING A 911 CALL,
PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE
INFORMATION MAY BE PROVIDED.
SAME WITH THE POLICE VERSION,
ITEM NUMBER 5.
CAD IS USED IN THE SAME WAY.
6 AND 7 SPEAK TO LICENSE PLATE
READER TECHNOLOGY THAT POLICE
USE FOR PATROLS SO THIS HAS TO
DO WITH IDENTIFYING STOLEN CARS
OR OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES
AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
THEY ARE RELATED BUT SEPARATE SO
THEY COME IN TWO DIFFERENT
FLAVORS FOR AUTOMATED LICENSE
PLATE READER.
THE EIGHTH IS COP LOGIC ALLOWING
INDIVIDUALS AND RETAIL
ORGANIZATIONS TO SUBMIT POLICE
REPORTS ONLINE.
THESE ARE FOR LOW LEVEL CRIMES,
NONEMERGENCY SITUATIONS WHERE
911 CALL WOULD DISPATCH AN
OFFICER AND THAT IS NOT
NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE, BUT
INFORMATION SHOULD BE GATHERED.
THESE ARE USUALLY FOR, AND
CAPTAIN McDONOUGH IS HERE.
THAT IS NUMBER EIGHT HERE AND
NUMBER NINE IS 911 LOGGING
RECORDER.
IT PROVIDES NETWORKED ACCESS TO
THE LOGGED TELEPHONY AND RADIO
VOICE RECORDER.
IT IS INFORMATION ABOUT POLICE
BEHAVIOR AND ANY OTHER KIND OF
LEGAL DISCOVERY SO WE HAVE A
RECORD OF WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT
WAS DISPATCHED OR WHAT THE CALL
WAS LIKE FOR 911 INTAKE.
THESE ARE THE TECHNOLOGIES WE'RE
HERE TO DISCUSS.
OMARI WILL TAKE -- NOW, OMARI IS
ON MY TEAM.
HE IS RESPONSIBLE AND TASKED
WITH ENSURING WE MOVE THESE
ALONG.
HE WILL TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WE ENGAGE IN.
GO AHEAD.
>> THANKS FOR THE INTRO, GINGER
AND THANK YOU, CHAIR PEDERSEN
FOR HAVING US, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND OTHERS FROM MY S.
I. R. LEADS.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT WE DID FOR THE
TECHNOLOGIES AND I WANT TO BACK
UP A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT
THE GROUPINGS WE HAVE IN THE
TECHNOLOGIES CAME FROM A COUNCIL
REQUEST TO BUNDLE THE
TECHNOLOGIES TOGETHER SO WE CAN
HAVE THE PIECE MEAL VIEWS OF
THESE.
WE CAN LOOK AT THEM IN BUNDLES.
IN 2019 WE DID A WIDE REACH FOR
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO THE
TECHNOLOGIES.
THIS IS A SCREEN SHOT OF THE
WEBSITE THAT WE PUT UP.
SEATTLE.GOV/SURVEILLANCE.
EASY SITE TO GET TO.
WE POST ALL OF THE DRAFTS OR
DOCUMENTS.
THE DRAFTS OF THE IMPACT REPORT,
A ONE PAGE FLYER, SUMMARY OF THE
TECHNOLOGY.
IT IS ALSO TRANSLATED TO THE
SEVEN TIER ONE LANGUAGES IN THE
CITY.
WE INTRODUCED ONE TO TWO MINUTE
VIDEOS OF THE TECHNOLOGIES WE
POSTED ONLINE SO PEOPLE CAN GET
AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS THE
TECHNOLOGY, WHAT IS IT USED FOR
AND WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL
CONCERNS AROUND THE USE OF THE
TECHNOLOGY.
THIS IS IN SUPPORT OF GETTING
THE PUBLIC INFORMED ABOUT, A,
THE USE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES, BUT
ALSO INFORMING THE OPINIONS
ABOUT WHAT ARE THEIR CONCERNS
ABOUT IT?
DO THEY SEE A BENEFIT TO THIS?
A CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE?
AND PROVIDE THEM THE CONTEXT TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT AND
REVIEW THAT THIS BODY CAN LOOK
AT WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE
S. I. R..
ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE DO
GETS BUNDLED UP AND PUT IN.
YOU CAN SEE THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT
DO WE POINT OUT AS THE MAJOR
CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE SAW AS WELL
AS THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS FROM
RESIDENTS OR ORGANIZATIONS WHO
WROTE FOR OR EXPRESSING CONCERNS
FOR THE TECHNOLOGIES.
MOVING ON TO MORE DETAILED VIEW.
WE HELD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TWO
YEARS AGO.
WE HAD A COMBINATION OF ONLINE
OPPORTUNITIES AND IN PERSON
EVENTS HOSTED IN COMMUNITY AT
SEATTLE PUBLIC LIBRARY
LOCATIONS.
WE CALLED IT A TECHNOLOGY FAIR
STYLE EVENT SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU
HEAR FROM DEPARTMENTS TODAY.
WE HAD THE DEPARTMENT SUBJECT
MATTER EXPERTS COME AND SPEAK
AND PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT
THE TECHNOLOGIES AND HAVE THE
ABILITY FOR FOLKS TO ASK
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE USE OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES.
THESE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE DID
IN PERSON WERE RECORDED AND
POSTED ONLINE IN CASE FOLKS
COULDN'T ATTEND OR WANTED TO
REVIEW THEM LATER FOR PROVIDING
THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
AS I MENTIONED, WE DID PRODUCE
THE TWO MINUTE VIDEO OVER VIEWS
OF THE TECHNOLOGIES AS WELL.
THOSE ALSO HAD TRANSLATED
CAPTIONS.
WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE
THAT FOLKS HAD THE ABILITY TO
ENGAGE WITH THESE HOWEVER THEY
WANTED TO.
WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO
MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING OUTREACH
TO FOLKS THAT HAVE R NOT
RECEIVING THE NORMAL CHANNELS
WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE
ONLINE OFFERING.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THE COMMENTS
RECEIVED FROM THE DIFFERENT
ENGAGEMENT METHODS, WE RAN AN
ONLINE SURVEY, BY FAR THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL WAY FOR PEOPLE TO
EASILY PROVIDE ONLINE COMMENTS,
BUT WE ALSO DID ACCEPT COMMENTS
BY MAIL INTO AN E-MAIL INBOX,
SURVEILLANCE @SEATTLE.GOV.
REALLY, OUR EMPHASIS IS MAKING
SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT
TECHNOLOGIES ARE UNDER REVIEW,
PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO THEM
AND GET THE INFORMATION BACK IN
THE FORM OF COMMENTS AND/OR
ANALYSIS.
>> THAT CONCLUDES THE SLIDES WE
WANTED TO PRESENT.
WE WANTED TO GIVE AN OVER VIEW
OF WHAT THE S. I. R. S. ARE, HOW
WE GOT THE INFORMATION WE DID
AND CENTRAL STAFF WILL TAKE YOU
THROUGH THE REST OF THE
PRESENTATION.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE PART
THAT WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN AND
THAT CONCLUDES WHAT WE HAVE.
>> THANK YOU.
YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET LISE
KAYE'S COMMENTS AND
PRESENTATION.
OF COURSE, COUNCILMEMBERS, LISE
KAYE FROM CENTRAL STAFF DID
WRITE A MEMO FOR EACH OF THE ON
ON
THE OTHER HANDS
ORDINANCES.
YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
>> YES, I DO.
AM I UNMUTED?
>> YES, AND WE SEE IT NOW.
>> OKAY.
SO I AM JUST MAKING SURE.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
VERSIONS OF THIS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE
RIGHT VERSION.
>> WHILE LISE IS DOING THIS, I
WANT TO THANK HER AND ALL WHO
BROUGHT THIS TO THE COMMITTEE AT
THIS TIME.
THANK YOU.
>> HERE WE ARE.
AND, YES, GINGER AND OMARI.
YOU HAVE BEEN AN AMAZING HELP.
MANY, MANY OF MY QUESTIONS THAT
I POSE TO YOU ABOUT THE S. I.
R.s.
IT IS A FAIRLY LARGE BODY OF
WORK FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED, SO
THANK YOU ALL.
IT HAS BEEN A JOY WORKING WITH
YOU AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A JOY, BUT
ANYHOW, IT HAS BEEN GOOD.
AS COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN SAID,
THE COMMITTEE HAS THREE BILLS
BEFORE YOU TODAY THAT WILL
TOGETHER APPROVE NINE
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES AND
ACCEPT THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORT FOR EACH OF THEM.
WE'LL BE CALLING THEM S. I. R.s
BECAUSE IT HAS FEWER CONSONANTS.
THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD.
SYLLABLES.
LET ME FIGURE OUT HOW TO -- I'M
JUST TRYING TO MOVE MY, HERE WE
GO.
FINGER TALKED ABOUT WHAT WAS IN
EACH S. I. R..
I WON'T GO OVERALL OF THIS.
I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IN MY
STAFF MEMOS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I
HAVE IDENTIFIED WHAT I HAVE
CALLED POLICY CONSIDERATIONS,
BUT I WANT TO NOTE FOR YOU,
AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE THE WORKING
GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE GONE
BEYOND MITIGATION DESCRIBED IN
THE S. I. R..
THESE ARE NOT INTENDED AS STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS IN SOME CASES.
I WILL NOTE WHERE THEY ARE AND
AREN'T.
YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT
CATEGORIES OF POLICY
CONSIDERATIONS.
WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS,
INFORMATION IS INCOMPLETE AND
I'LL FLAG IF THERE ARE
PARTICULAR LEGAL AND LOGISTICAL
PARAMETERS TO ADDRESS THE
CONCERNS.
I'LL START WITH THE CURRENT
DIVERSION PROPERTIES HERE,
RUNNING MY MULTIPLE SCREENS
HERE.
THE FIRST COUNCIL BILL 12002 IS
ON PAGE SEVEN AND EIGHT OR USE
THE LINK ON ITEM FOUR OF THE
AGENDA.
THIS WOULD APPROVE THE USE AND
ACCEPTING SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORTS FOR EACH.
AS GINGER NOTED, THE
TECHNOLOGIES ARE USE TO
INVESTIGATE SUSPECTED
ELECTRICITY THEFT.
S. I. R. IS ATTACHMENT ONE, TWO,
AND THREE AND PRINTED ON 81 TO
526 OF YOUR AGENDA.
IT IS ALSO PROVIDED ON 523 OF
YOUR AGENDA.
IN THE S. I. R. ITSELF, NOTED
THAT CITY LIGHT HAD NOT
ANTICIPATED ANY CIVIL LIBERTIES
IMPACT FROM THE S. I. R. BUT DID
PLAN AN EQUITY ANALYSIS OF PAST
LOCATIONS TO CONFIRM THE
ASSUMPTION.
THAT ANALYSIS HASN'T BEEN
COMPLETED YET.
THE RACIAL EQUITY TOOL REPORTS
THAT THEY HAVE NOT FINALIZED THE
METRICS TO BE USED AS PART OF C.
T. O.'S ANNUAL EQUITY
ASSESSMENT.
THAT WILL BE A COMMON FINDING
THAT YOU'LL SEE IN HERE.
THE METRICS, MOST OF THE
DEPARTMENTS HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE
METRICS FINALIZED YET.
IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS
RECEIVED, THERE WAS SOME SUPPORT
FOR THE USE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES.
THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT OUT
DATED TECHNOLOGY AND INVASION OF
PRIVACY, POTENTIAL INVASION OF
PRIVACY.
WORKING GROUP IDENTIFIED ONE
MAJOR OR SUBMITTED ONE IMPACT
ASSESSMENT FOR ALL THREE
TECHNOLOGIES AND IDENTIFIED
THREE MAJOR ISSUES, THAT THE
POLICIES DON'T SUFFICIENTLY
RESTRICT THE USE OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES TO A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE AND THEY RAISE QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE DATA PROTECTION
RETENTION.
THE CTO'S RESPONSE, AND AGAIN,
WAS THAT THE POLICY AND TRAINING
PROVIDE ADEQUATE MITIGATION TO
ADDRESS THE WORKING GROUP
CONCERNS.
I DO WANT TO NOTE FOR YOU THAT
YOU'LL SEE THE BOTTOM LINE
SENTENCE A LOT ON THESE SLIDES,
BUT THAT IS REALLY JUST A
CONSOLIDATION, THAT IS JUST THE
BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT THEY FOUND.
THE RESPONSE MEMO OF THE C. T.
O.s HAVE QUITE A BIT MORE
INFORMATION AND THEY INCLUDE
MULTIPLE CITATIONS THAT SUPPORT
THE PARTICULAR FINDING.
I WILL SHOW YOU, I WILL
REFERENCE TO YOU, FOR EXAMPLE,
TABLE ONE ON PAGE FOUR OF THE
STAFF MEMO PROVIDES THE
ADDITIONAL DETAILS FROM THE
CTO'S RESPONSE AND YOU CAN ALSO
SEE ON TABLE TWO ON PAGE FOUR OF
THE STAFF MEMO HOW THE S. I. R.
ADDRESSES RECOMMENDATIONS AND
ISSUES.
THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT I
HAVE CALLED CONCERNS AND IMPACT
ASSESSMENTS CALL CONCERNS AND
ALSO INCLUDE A SET OF SPECIFIC
RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS SPEAK TO HOW
THE WORKING GROUP BELIEVES THE
CITY COUNCIL SHOULD ADDRESS
THOSE CONCERNS.
THE CTO HAS NOT ADDRESSED THE
RECOMMENDATIONS PER SE BECAUSE
THAT REALLY IS GETTING INTO THE
DEPARTMENTAL AREA OF EXPERTISE
AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE
FOLKS HERE FROM THE EXECUTIVE
DEPARTMENT TO ANSWER SOME OF
YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
>> LISA, THANK YOU.
WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE
HEARING YOU, SO IF YOU DON'T
MIND SPEAKING UP FOR US.
>> I'M SORRY.
LET ME USE MY PROJECTING VOICE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
STAGE VOICE.
>> OKAY.
YEAH, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T IN
THEATER BUT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
MY DAUGHTER DOES THAT AND SHE
TAUGHT ME A LOT.
SO LOOKING AT THE POLICY
CONSIDERATIONS IN HERE, WHAT WE
FLAGGED.
THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDED
THE EXPLICIT LIMITATIONS ON THE
USE OF TECHNOLOGIES SO THE
COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER, AS
PEDERSEN NOTED ADOPTING THE USE
ALONG WITH THE S. I. R.s.
THE OVER VIEWS REPRESENT THE
ONLY ALLOWABLE USE OF THE DATA
COLLECTED BY THE TECHNOLOGY.
THE NEXT TWO CONSIDERATIONS ARE
THINGS THAT I FLAGGED AND YOU'LL
SEE, AGAIN, THIS WILL COME UP ON
MOST OF THESE, THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HASN'T FINISHED
COMPLETING ITS METRICS FOR THE
ANNUAL EQUITY ASSESSMENT AND
ALSO, I DID SOME INVESTIGATION
INTO WHY THE S. I. R. WAS TITLED
BINOCULARS/SPOTTING SCOPE.
THEY SAY THEY'RE JUST USING THEM
FOR BINOCULARS.
I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND
TAKING OFF THE REFERENCE TO
SPOTTING SCOPE.
IT IS NOT A TERM USED IN S. I.
R. ANYWHERE ELSE.
I WOULD PAUSE HERE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS THAT THE
COUNCILMEMBERS MAY WANT TO POSE
TO THE EXECUTIVE.
>> THANK YOU, LISE.
>> WE WANT TO HEAR QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE FIRST ORDINANCE, WHICH
IS THE SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
TECHNOLOGIES THAT THEY USE.
LISE KAYE HAS A CENTRAL STAFF
MEMO ON THE ORDINANCE AND THERE
IS ALSO AN EXECUTIVE OVER VIEW
WHICH SUMMARIZES THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES HAS HER
HAND UP AND IT LOOKS LIKE
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WILL HAVE
QUESTIONS, TOO.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, GO AHEAD,
PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE, FOR
YOUR PRESENTATION.
LISE, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
EXTENSIVE MEMO THAT WE HAVE.
ONE THING THAT, I KNOW THERE ARE
SEVERAL COMMON ISSUES THAT HAVE
BEEN RAISED ACROSS ALL OF THESE
S. I. R.S.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW
IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR ALL OF THEM,
THE ISSUE OF IDENTIFYING METRICS
FOR THE EQUITY ASSESSMENT HAS
NOT BEEN COMPLETED.
I DON'T THINK FOR ANY OF THEM.
AND SO ONE QUESTION I DEFINITELY
HAVE IS WHEN IS THE ANTICIPATED,
THE E. T. A. FOR WHEN METRICS
WILL BE IDENTIFIED AND WHEN THE
ASSESSMENTS WILL ACTUALLY BEGIN?
THAT IS OBVIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT
ISSUE FOR THE CITY IS
UNDERSTANDING ANY DISPARITIES
THAT SOME OF THE SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGIES MAY HAVE.
I THINK THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE
BUMPED UP AS A PRIORITY AND
WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IF THERE IS A
PLAN FOR THAT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, I MIGHT TAKE THAT
FIRST.
WE HAVE BEEN INFORMING AND
WORKING WITH DEPARTMENTS ON THIS
ISSUE, REALLY FROM THE
BEGINNING, SINCE 2017, BUT
BECAUSE NONE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES
HAVE BEEN APPROVED YET, WE'RE
WAITING A LITTLE BIT TO HEAR
WHAT WERE -- WERE THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL POLICY
RECOMMENDATIONS, ADDITIONAL
CONCERNS COMING FROM COUNCIL
BEFORE THESE WERE APPROVED
BEFORE IMPLEMENTING WHAT SHOULD
THE TRACKING BE?
ALERTING DEPARTMENTS SO THEY
WILL NEED TO START TRACKING
THIS.
RACIAL EQUITY TOOL KIT PORTION
OF THIS IDENTIFYING SOME OF THE
AREAS WHERE THAT CAN OCCUR, AND
THE EQUITY REPORT FROM THE CTO
WAS DUE IN SEPTEMBER OF EVERY
YEAR.
DEPENDING ON WHERE THESE LAND,
WE'LL HAVE MORE OR LESS DATA TO
OFFER.
FOR EXAMPLE, GROUP ONE S. I. R.
WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER IN
SEPTEMBER FOR THE EQUITY REVIEW.
IT IS AN ONGOING PIECE OF WORK.
WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND
REPORT WHAT WE HAVE LANDED ON
FOR EACH OF THESE.
THAT IS PROBABLY THE BEST ANSWER
I CAN GIVE YOU AT THIS TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU.
TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
THE FIRST RELATES TO RECORDS
RETENTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE CAPTURING
THE POLICY CONSIDERATION UNDER
RESTRICTIONS ON THIS OR WHETHER
OR NOT IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE
POLICY CONSIDERATION, BUT I'M
INTERESTED TO KNOW FOR THESE
INVESTIGATIONS WHETHER OR NOT
THEY MAINTAIN RECORDS AND IF SO,
HOW LONG THEY MAINTAIN THE
RECORDS AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE
ARE RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF
THE RECORDS.
SECONDLY, JUST CURIOUS, I DON'T
KNOW, CHAIR PEDERSEN IF YOU
WOULD CONSIDER THIS A POLICY
QUESTION AS OPPOSED TO A
QUESTION THAT IS REALLY FOCUSED
ON THE TECHNOLOGY ITSELF, BUT I
JUST GENERALLY HAVE A QUESTION
OF WHY BINOCULARS ARE STILL
BEING USED AFTER THE
INSTALLATION OF ADVANCED METERS.
>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL TURN
THAT OVER TO THE CITY LIGHT REP
HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
I WOULD NOTE THAT ALL OF THE
DEPARTMENTS RETAIN RECORDS
CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE
RETENTION SCHEDULE, WHICH IS
ACTUALLY IN RCW.
THE BREAK DOWN I WILL LEAVE TO
CITY LIGHT TO TALK ABOUT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD IT IS A
GREAT QUESTION.
WE SHOULD GET THOSE QUESTIONS
OUT.
I THINK IT IS WHEN WE GET TO THE
APPOINTMENT OF AMENDMENTS THAT
IF THEY GO TOO MUCH INTO A
POLICY UNRELATED TO TECHNOLOGIES
BUT FOR THE QUESTIONS IT IS A
GOOD QUESTION, SO CITY LIGHT IS
HERE, I THINK POTENTIALLY TO
ANSWER THAT.
[ INAUDIBLE ] .
>> SORRY, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HEAR
YOU.
>> HOW IS THAT?
IS THAT BETTER?
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T USE ZOOM VERY OFTEN.
MY SETTINGS WERE NOT RIGHT.
GOOD MORNING COUNCILMEMBERS, MY
NAME IS MICHELLE VARGO.
I'M THE DEPUTY CHIEF OPERATING
OFFICER FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHT.
THE AMI QUESTION IS A GREAT
QUESTION.
I WAS HOPING TO HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT.
DEFINITELY, I DON'T DISAGREE
WITH ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS
THAT THIS PROCESS HAS UNCOVERED
AND I THINK IN PARTICULAR WHEN
WE TALK ABOUT THE POLICY
SURROUNDING THIS PROGRAM, AMI
CERTAINLY HAS AN IMPACT ON THE
PROGRAM.
IT IS DIMINISHING OUR NEED FOR
ANY OF THE TOOLS.
CERTAINLY THERE IS NOT 100 %
ROLL OUT OF AMI SO THERE MAY BE
CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE'RE STILL
USING THESE TECHNOLOGIES, BUT I
CAN TELL YOU THE RESEARCH THAT I
HAVE DONE.
WE HAVE A NEW CURRENT
COORDINATOR AS OF LATE 2018 AND
SHE HAS TOLD ME THAT WE HAVE
ONLY USED THESE TECHNOLOGIES,
ACTUALLY TWO OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES, LESS THAN SIX
TIMES SINCE SHE STARTED IN THIS
POSITION, SO THESE ARE NOT
TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE'RE USING
QUITE OFTEN.
I THINK WE WERE JUST TRYING TO
BE FULLY TRANSPARENT WITH THE
PROGRAMS AND MAKING SURE THAT
THEY WERE VISIBLE, THAT WE DO
OCCASIONALLY USE THEM.
DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION?
>> SO FOR THE AMI QUESTION, SO
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE
BINOCULARS ARE USED IN CASES
WHERE PEOPLE OPTED OUT OF AMI.
THAT IS WHAT THE PURPOSE OF
ALLOWING THE USE OF BINOCULARS?
AGAIN, IT SEEMS LIKE ALL OF THE
INFORMATION YOU WOULD NEED TO DO
AN INVESTIGATION COULD BE
CAPTURED WITHOUT BINOCULARS FOR
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT OPTED OUT OF
AMI.
>> I'M SORRY, I DON'T QUITE
UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
THE USE OF BINOCULARS SHOULD NOT
BE NEEDED FOR PEOPLE WHO OPTED
OUT OF AMI?
>> I THOUGHT YOU SAID THEY'RE
STILL IN USE BECAUSE AMI IS NOT
100 % ROLLED OUT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO -- GIVEN THAT
ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT
WOULD ALLOW YOU TO INVESTIGATE
POTENTIAL ELECTRICITY THEFT IS
CAPTURABLE WITHOUT THE
BINOCULARS FOR PEOPLE WITH AN
AMI SYSTEM, I'M TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND WHY YOU STILL HAVE
BINOCULARS AS ONE OF YOUR
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES.
WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY
IS BECAUSE AMI IS NOT 100 %
ROLLED OUT.
>> THAT IS EXACTLY TRUE,
COUNCILMEMBER.
THIS IS DEBORRA SMITH.
YES, THERE WILL BE TIMES WHEN WE
NEED TO PUT VISUAL EYES ON
METERS THAT ARE BEHIND A FENCE
OR BEHIND A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE
ACCESS TO FOR DIVERSION
PURPOSES.
THAT NUMBER WILL CONTINUE TO GO
DOWN AS WE COMPLETE OUR AMI ROLL
OUT, WHICH RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN
27,000 METERS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
UPDATED.
THE USE OF BINOCULARS OR
SPOTTING SCOPES, WE'RE USING
THEM AT TIMES TO READ THE METER
FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS WHO YOU
ACCURATELY BROUGHT UP.
THAT WILL BE THE CASE FOR
CUSTOMERS WHO OPT OUT IN CERTAIN
SITUATIONS INDEFINITELY, BUT
RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL HAVING TO
USE THE DEVICES TO READ METERS
THAT WE HAVE NOT YET CONVERTED,
SO THOSE, ONCE THOSE ARE ALL
COMPLETE, THE NUMBER OF TIMES
THAT WE WILL USE ANY OF THE
TOOLS WILL BE DRAMATICALLY
REDUCED.
>> THANK YOU.
AND THEN I STILL HAVE THE
QUESTION ABOUT THE RECORDS
RETENTION LENGTH.
LISA DID MENTION THAT THERE IS
AN RCW THAT DEFINES THIS, BUT I
THOUGHT I REMEMBERED ALSO FROM A
CENTRAL STAFF BRIEFING THAT LISE
GAVE ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS
WE'RE HEARING FROM TODAY HOLDS
ONTO THE RECORDS MUCH LONGER
THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IN
THE RCW.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH
DEPARTMENT IT WAS, SO I'M
ASKING.
>> THAT WAS SEATTLE FIRE.
THEY KEEP THEIRS CONSISTENT WITH
THE SCHEDULE.
RCW IS 40-14, THE RECORDS
RETENTION ACT AND ALL OF THE
RETENTION SCHEDULES ARE ON THE
WEB PAGE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> WE'LL GET YOU THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT TECHNOLOGY NEXT.
ANY QUESTIONS, MORE, FOR THE
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT?
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN GO BACK TO THIS
LATER IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING.
FOR NOW, COUNCILMEMBERS,
ANYTHING ON SEATTLE CITY LIGHTS,
THREE TECHNOLOGIES ALREADY IN
USE, OR MAY WE MOVE TO THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT?
LISE KAYE, WHY DON'T WE MOVE TO
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
YOU'RE ON MUTE, LISE KAYE.
>> I WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK EVEN
LOUDER THAN USUAL IF I'M MUTED.
OKAY.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND BILL THAT
IS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE TODAY.
IT IS COUNCIL BILL 120003 ON
PAGE 603 OF YOUR AGENDA
MATERIALS OR FIND A LINK ON ITEM
FIVE OF YOUR AGENDA.
IT WOULD APPROVE THE SEATTLE
FIRE DEPARTMENT'S CONTINUED USE
OF COMPUTER DISPATCH TECHNOLOGY
AND ACCEPT THE COMPLETED S. I.
R..
IT IS ATTACHMENT ONE AND CAN BE
FOUND ON 606 OF YOUR GENERAL
MATERIALS.
MY STAFF MEMO ON THIS ITEM
BEGINS ON PAGE 968 OF YOUR
AGENDA MATERIALS.
I WOULD NOTE THAT THIS S. I. R.
HAS BEEN UPDATED ON REFLECT THE
MERGER OF THE TECHNOLOGY VENDOR.
THE TECHNOLOGY WAS PROVIDED BY A
COMPANY CALLED TRI-TECH FOR
YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
IT RECENTLY MERGED WITH TWO
OTHER VENDORS INTO CENTRAL
SQUARE.
I KNOW THE IMPACT ASSESSMENT
ASKED ABOUT WHETHER THAT MERGER
AFFECTED ANY OF THE PRIVACY AND
CONTRACTUAL PROVISIONS.
I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY SEATTLE
FIRE THAT THOSE PROVISIONS
REMAIN THE SAME.
THE S. I. R. HAS BEEN UPDATED TO
REFLECT THE MERGER.
THE S. I. R. IDENTIFIED TWO
POTENTIAL CIVIL LIBERTY UNIONS,
POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND PERSONAL
IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION AND
SENSITIVE INFORMATION COULD BE
USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
TARGET HISTORICAL MARGINALIZED
COMMUNITIES.
THIS TECHNOLOGY IS THE SYSTEM
THAT HELPS ADVISE THE
DISPATCHERS WHO TAKE THE 911
CALLS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
ABOUT WHICH UNITS ARE AVAILABLE,
WHETHER THOSE ARE EMT UNITS OR
LADDER TRUCKS, THINGS LIKE THAT,
WHICH UNITS ARE AVAILABLE AND
WHICH ONES SHOULD POTENTIALLY BE
DEPLOYED TO THE PARTICULAR CALL.
SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE S.
I. R. IDENTIFIED HOW THEY WOULD
MITIGATE THE IMPACTS THAT THEY
IDENTIFIED BY ASKING PEOPLE WHO
ARE ASKING FOR PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
REQUESTS TO VOLUNTARY REDACT
PERSONAL INFORMATION BEFORE
RECEIVING THE RESPONSE.
THEY ALSO NOTIFIED AT TIMES,
INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE AFFECTED
SO THEY CAN SEEK A COURT ORDER
TO ENJOIN THE RELEASE OF THE
RECORDS.
THEY PROVIDE INFORMATION TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT ONLY RELATIVE TO AN
ACTIVE INVESTIGATION AND THAT
HAS TO BE CONFIRMED BY THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT'S PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
OFFICER AND RECORDED.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT USES
EQUALITY INSURANCE MANAGER TO
CHECK THE DATA FOR ACCURACY AND
COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEPARTMENTAL
DISPATCH POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES.
I WOULD NOTE, AGAIN, YOU ALREADY
HEARD FROM GINGER WHY THE ANNUAL
EQUITY ASSESSMENTS METTICS
HADN'T BEEN COMPLETED YET IN
TERMS OF PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT
CAME IN WITH RESPECT TO THE
TECHNOLOGY.
THERE WEREN'T VERY MANY OF
THOSE.
SOME EXPRESSED SUPPORT.
SOME, AGAIN, EXPRESSED CONCERNS
ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY AND
POTENTIAL INVASION OF PRIVACY.
THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS
IDENTIFIED FOR YOU, MY NOTES
HERE, SORRY, SPEAK TO THE
RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE.
SO RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU
COULD ADOPT THE EXECUTIVE OVER
VIEW AGAIN.
THIS IS THE ISSUE THAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD FLAGGED ON
DATA RETENTION.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HOLDS THESE
RECORDS FOR THE LIFE OF THE
TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM.
THAT IS IN EXCESS OF THE MINIMUM
REQUIREMENTS OF STATE LAW.
THEY REQUIRE SIX YEARS OF
RETENTION FOR FIRE INCIDENT
REPORTS AND THREE YEARS FOR BACK
UPDATES.
THEY MAY WANT TO REQUEST THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ESTABLISH THE
DATA FOR WHICH THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT RETAINS THE DATA.
#.
THIS IS ALSO A RECOMMENDATION
YOU'LL SEE COMING UP.
THAT THEY SHOULD HOLD THE THIRD
PARTY PARTNERS TO THE SAME
RESTRICTIONS THAT THE CITY IS
HELD TO.
THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT
WAS MADE FOR THE GROUP ONE S. I.
R.S SPECIFICALLY, FOR EXAMPLE,
THE WORKING GROUP SUGGESTED THAT
THE CITY SHOULD BE HOLDING THE
STATE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION TO THE PRIVACY
REQUIREMENTS AND THERE ARE JUST,
THAT IS NOT REALLY FEASIBLE.
WE CAN'T REALLY TELL THE LEVELS
OF GOVERNMENT HOW THEY SHOULD
OPERATE AND SOME INSTANCES IT
MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE TO EVEN
REQUIRE THAT OF SOME OF OUR
MAJOR THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS.
YOU ALREADY HEARD THE DISCUSSION
THAT THESE WILL BE FORTH COMING.
I WOULD PAUSE HERE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S
QUESTION EARLIER SEEMS TO APPLY
HERE ON THE DATA RETENTION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE HOLDING
LAW.
WE'RE PICKING UP THEMES HERE OF
POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS OR
ADDITIONAL GUARD RAILS.
WE'RE PAUSING HERE AT THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT DISPATCH.
THE EXISTING TECHNOLOGY, WE
EXTINCTIVELY KNOW THE NEED FOR
COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH FOR THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAVE
DONE A LOT OF WORK WE WANT TO
ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT.
LISE KAYE'S MEMO IS AVAILABLE
WHICH HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE
THINGS IN HER POWER POINT HERE
AND GETTING TO HER BY
MARCH 10TH, NEXT WEDNESDAY WITH
ANY POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS WOULD
BE HELPFUL SO THAT WE CAN
PROCEED ON MARCH 17TH.
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT ITEMS COMING UP NEXT.
I PREDICT THAT WE WILL BE HERE
IN COMMITTEE AT LEAST UNTIL
12:30.
WE'LL TRY TO WRAP IT UP BY
12:30.
I KNOW THIS IS GOING LONG HERE,
BUT WE DO NEED TO GET THROUGH
THE TECHNOLOGIES AS PART OF THE
COMMITTEE WORK.
THESE ARE ATTACHED TO THE
COUNCIL BILL 120004 ARE ATTACHED
ON YOUR AGENDA AS IS MY STAFF
MEMO.
IT STARTS ON PAGE 2269.
THE ATTACHMENTS IN YOUR AGENDA
PACKETS ARE IN A DIFFERENT ORDER
THAN WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN.
I FOLLOWED THE ORDER IN MY STAFF
REPORT.
WE HAVE TECHNICAL GLITCHES FOR
WHICH I APOLOGIZE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE AUTOMATED
LICENSE PLATE READERS AND THE
PARKING ENFORCEMENT, AUTOMATED
LICENSE READERS TOGETHER AGAIN.
THE AUTOMATED READERS AS GINGER
MENTIONED ARE HELP TO IDENTIFY
STOLEN VEHICLES AND VEHICLES
WANTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH
FELONIES.
I MOVED TOO FAST ON MY SLIDE.
THEY'RE ALSO USED TO HELP, I'M
SORRY, HELPED TO FIND WANTED
PERSONS IN THE SILVER AND AMBER
ALERTS.
THE S. I. R. FOR THE TECHNOLOGY
IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL IMPACTS
THAT THEY COULD BE USED TO
IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT
COMMITTING A CRIME.
USED TO SEARCH INFORMATION NOT
RELATED TO A PARTICULAR
INVESTIGATION AND THERE IS A
RISK OF THE HISTORICALLY
TARGETED COMMUNITIES COULD BE
OVERLY SURVEILLANCE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT CAME IN ON
THIS, BACK IN 2018, WERE
IDENTIFYING SOME SUPPORT OF
CONCERNS ABOUT DATA RETENTION
SECURITY PRIVACY POTENTIAL FOR
ERROR AND MISUSE OF SURVEILLANCE
IN GENERAL, SO I WANT TO NOTE
THE SPD DID UPDATE THE RELEVANT
POLICIES AFTER THAT FALL 2018
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PERIOD AND
HAVE THE S. I. R. INCLUDE
UPDATED POLICIES THAT ADDRESS
AUTHORIZED USES AND EXPANDING
UNREQUIRED TRAINING FOR
EMPLOYEES AND A NUMBER OF OTHER
ISSUES.
>> THANKS FOR RAISING THAT
POINT.
I THINK THIS TECHNOLOGY
ORDINANCE STARTED IN 2017.
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ WAS THE
LEAD SPONSOR ON THE ORIGINAL
SURVEILLANCE AND IT WAS AMENDED
IN 2018 WITH COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ, COUNCILMEMBERS AT THE
TIME, SO WHAT IS INTERESTING IS
THE S. I. R.'S PROCESS ACTUALLY
GOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
ALREADY TO UPDATE THE POLICIES
ON SOME OF THE MEASURES.
I KNOW WE'LL STILL HAVE
QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THAT WE'LL
RAISE BUT IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR
THE LONG S. I. R.'S PROCESS
RESULTED IN POLICIES BEING
CHANGED IN REAL TIME TO TIGHTEN
THINGS UP.
THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
FORESHADOWING THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT THAT MANY OF THE
SAME ASSESSMENT ISSUES WERE
IDENTIFIED FOR PARKING SYSTEMS,
TOO, SO I WILL BE REFERRING TO
THESE.
WORKING GROUP IDENTIFIED THE
QUESTION OF DATA, HAVE QUESTIONS
ABOUT DATA ACCESS AND SHARING,
HOW THE SYSTEM WOULD BE AUDITED
AND WHETHER THE TECHNOLOGIES
ACTUALLY PRODUCE MEASURABLE
OUTCOME IN CRIME SOLVING.
THE C. T. O.'S RESPONSE WAS THAT
THE UPDATED POLICIES OF TRAINING
AND LIMITATIONS OF THE
TECHNOLOGIES THEMSELVES PROVIDE
ADEQUATE MITIGATION.
YOU'LL SEE TABLES THAT I HAVE IN
MY STAFF MEMO, TABLE ONE ON PAGE
FOUR AND FIVE PROVIDES
ADDITIONAL DETAILS ABOUT THE C.
T. O.'S RESPONSE.
TABLE TWO ON PAGE SIX OF THE
STAFF MEMO SHOW HOW THE S. I. R.
ADDRESSES ISSUES PERTAINING
SPECIFICALLY TO THE
RECOMMENDATIONS.
AT THIS POINT, THE MAIN POLICY
CONSIDERATION THAT HASN'T BEEN
ADDRESSED IN THE S. I. R. IS THE
RESTRICTION ON USE.
THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT
THE COMMITTEE COULD DEDUCT THE
EXECUTIVE OVER VIEW.
LET ME JUST MOVE RIGHT INTO THE
PARKING ENFORCEMENT SYSTEMS THEN
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM
LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEM ARE
USED TO ENFORCE PARKING LAWS AND
ALSO CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION IN
SUPPORT OF FINDINGS FOR VEHICLES
OR THOSE SOUGHT IN CONNECTION
WITH A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
THIS S. I. R. WAS UPDATED IN
2019 AFTER THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
PROCESS IN THE FALL OF 2018.
THE SAME POTENTIAL CIVIL
LIBERTIES AND IMPACTS WERE
IDENTIFIED IN THE S. I. R..
THE S. I. R. DID NOTE THAT
RESPONSE TO THE UPDATED POLICIES
THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE AFTER
FEBRUARY 1ST WOULD BE COMPILED
AND ANALYZED AS PART OF THE
ANNUAL EQUITY ASSESSMENTS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND AGAIN,
THESE ARE FROM THE FALL OF 2018,
EXPRESSED SOME SUPPORT CONCERNS
ABOUT DATA RETENTION, CONCERNS
ABOUT EQUITABLE ENFORCEMENT AND
OVERALL, CONCERNS ABOUT
SURVEILLANCE.
THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS WITH
RESPECT TO THESE TWO
TECHNOLOGIES, OR PARKING
ENFORCEMENT SYSTEMS WHICH
OVERLAP, THE DATA SHARING, THIS
IS ONE THAT WOULD FLAG IS THAT
THE WORKING GROUP SUGGESTED THAT
PATROL AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT
DO NOT SHARE DATA.
THAT WOULD BE A METER CHANGE IN
HOW POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATES
RIGHT NOW.
ANY AMENDMENTS WE'LL BE BREAKING
CLOSE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE ON HOW TO STRUCTURE THAT
KIND OF AMENDMENT.
THE IMPACT ASSESSMENT ALSO ASKED
ABOUT HOW THE SYSTEM IS AUDITED
AND, AGAIN, THE SAME QUESTION
ABOUT HOW EFFECTIVE IS THIS
TECHNOLOGY IN ACTUALLY REDUCING
CRIMES.
SO I THINK I HAD ONE MORE POLICY
CONSIDERATION.
IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE
WORKING GROUP IS THAT FOR
REASONS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR OF
THE HARDWARE FOR THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT, THE CAMERAS
THEMSELVES ARE CHARACTERIZED IN
THE S. I. R. AS SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY.
THERE IS AN EXPLICIT STATEMENT
THAT THE SOFTWARE USED TO GET
THE INFORMATION OFF THE HARDWARE
IS NONSURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY.
.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TURNOVER
IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SINCE
THIS WAS DRAFTED.
THERE WASN'T AN INSTITUTIONAL
MEMORY AS FOR THE RATIONAL FOR
DOING THAT.
IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MY
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL
CONSIDER ADOPTING, IF THEY
ADOPTED THE S. I. R., THEY WOULD
NOTE THAT WOULD BE APPROVING THE
SOFTWARE AS SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY ALSO.
.
>> BECAUSE OF THE POLICY
CONSIDERATION, THE SECOND ONE
THERE, DATA SHARING BETWEEN
PATROL, POLICE PATROL, AND
PARKING ENFORCEMENT, SO I GUESS,
WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE,
CAPTAIN McDONOUGH AND CAPTAIN,
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO
ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS ON THE
SPOT, IF IT IS SOMETHING WHERE
YOU CAN GET BACK TO LISE KAYE ON
OUR CITY COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF,
OR WE CAN SORT OF GET THE
QUESTIONS OUT ON TO THE RECORD
AND WE HAVE THREE MORE
TECHNOLOGIES TO GO OVER.
REAL QUICK, THE BENEFITS, SO
CURRENTLY THERE IS DATA SHARING
BETWEEN PATROL AND PARKING
ENFORCEMENT?
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> NOT FROM PATROL TO PARKING
ENFORCEMENT.
AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER,
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK,
NOT BETWEEN PATROL AND THE
PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
IT IS FROM PARKING ENFORCEMENT
TO PATROL SO WE CAN CHECK FOR
THE VEHICLES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT
HAVE BEEN VOID IN THE CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY.
YES, THERE IS SHARING ACROSS THE
BOARD, BUT IT IS, THE ONLY ONES
THAT SHARE WITH US.
THEY WILL POP UP ON THE PATROL
WHEN THEY DO THE PATROLS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION.
AS WE KNOW THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS
ABOUT HAVING PARKING ENFORCEMENT
MOVE TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE MAY WANT TO
KEEP OUR EYE ON IN TERMS OF WHAT
IS THE POLICY FOR THAT SHARING
FROM PARKING ENFORCEMENT
CHOOSING TO SHARE IT WITH SPD
PATROL.
IT DOESN'T, TO ME IT DOESN'T
SPEAK TO THE TECHNOLOGY ITSELF.
IT IS SOMETHING, A POLICY I
THINK WE WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON.
OTHERS MAY DISAGREE ON HOW I'M
FRAMING THAT.
I WANT TO RAISE THIS ISSUE.
IT IS A CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN
RAISED ABOUT PARKING
ENFORCEMENT, FOLKS SHARING THE
INFORMATION WITH THE PATROL.
THIS IS A GOOD MOMENT FOR ME TO
THANK OUR SURVEILLANCE WORKING
GROUP, A GROUP OF, IT IS LIKE AN
ADVISORY BOARD THAT WE HAVE THAT
VOLUNTEERS AND MEETS TO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS TO
GIVE US, TO RAISE CONCERNS
EARLY, TO HOLD EVERYBODY
ACCOUNTABLE, SO I WANT TO THANK
ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE VOF
VOLUNTEERED IN THE PAST AND
CURRENTLY WITH SURVEILLANCE
WORKING GROUP THAT I'M
DIGRESSING HERE.
COUNCILMEMBERS, ON THE FIRST TWO
SPD TECHNOLOGIES, THE LICENSE
PLATE READER AND PARKING
ENFORCEMENT, IS THERE ANYTHING
YOU WOULD LIKE TO RAISE?
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU.
AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO.
THIS WOULD COME UP TO THE 911
QUESTION.
THE ISSUE OF DATA SHARING ASIDE,
I'M JUST FLAGGING WHETHER OR NOT
THERE NEEDS TO BE A
CONSIDERATION OF A TECHNICAL
CHANGE GIVEN THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT SPD ENFORCEMENT SYSTEMS
WHEN IT WILL NOT BE AN SPD
PARKING ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM.
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>> SO, REAL QUICKLY, THE
DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO
TRANSPARENCY AND THE ABSENCE
REQUIRED UNDER THE ORDINANCE.
IN TERMS OF THIS, WE ARE
TIGHTENED UP AND MADE SURE
THERE'S AN ACCOUNTABILITY
FEATURE IN THE SOFTWARE ITSELF
SO EVERY USER IS OUT OFFED AND
EVERY USER HAS AUTHORIZATION.
NOT JUST EVERYBODY CAN GET INTO
THE DIFFERENT OSPR SYSTEMS.
THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE
REQUIREMENTS FOR INFORMATION
SHARING, ET CETERA.
WE DO THE ACCESS TRAINING,
WHICH IS THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON'S TRAINING, WHICH
LIMITS THE RELEASE OF
INFORMATION THROUGH YOUR JOB,
AND THE PRIVACY AND INFORMATION
SECURITY PROGRAM IN LACE BY THE
CITY.
WE HAVE A 90-DAY RETENTION, AND
WE FOLLOW THE LAW TO KEEP THE
LINEUP NOT TOO LOW.
REAL BRIEFLY, THAT'S SOME OF
THE BIG STUFF.
THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL IS THE OTHER UNIT THAT
WILL BE PERFORMING AUDITS ON
ALL THESE UNITS AND CAN PERFORM
ANY AUDITS REQUIRED.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE CAN GO INTO
THE OTHER THREE ITEMS.
>> APOLOGIES, I WILL LOWER MY
HAND.
>> OKAY.
THE NEXT ONE IS THE DISPATCH.
AS GINGER MENTIONED, THIS IS A
PARALLEL SYSTEM THAT PERFORMS
THE SAME FUNCTIONS AS DISPATCH.
I NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY WORKING
MY SLIDE.
>> I'D HELP YOU IF I COULD,
LISA.
>> I APOLOGIZE, PEOPLE.
I'VE HIT THE WRONG ARROWS AND
IT'S ANNOYING TO EVERYBODY, I'M
SURE.
SO THE POLICE IDENTIFY
POTENTIAL CIVIL LIBERTIES
IMPACTS, AS YOU SEE ON THE
SCREEN HERE.
I'LL JUST FLIP THROUGH THIS
HERE.
IMPACT ASSESSMENT ISSUES WERE
RAISED BY THE WORKING GROUP
WITH RESPECT TO THE DATA ACCESS
AND RETENTION.
THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID THEY
WANTED OPERATORS TO BE TRAINED
WITH THE POLICIES.
THE SERVER PROVIDED INFORMATION
SPECIFIC TO THAT CONCERN.
AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE MEMO, I'VE
IDENTIFIED WHERE THAT SPECIFIC
INFORMATION ADDRESSED MANY OF
THOSE ISSUES.
SO THAT BASICALLY FUNNELED THE
POLICY CONSIDERATIONS DOWN TO
THESE TWO.
THAT WAS A VERY SHORT VERSION
OF THAT PARTICULAR BRIEFING.
DID YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS ON THAT RIGHT NOW,
COUNCIL MEMBER PETERSON?
>> WHAT ABOUT SPD COMPUTER-
AIDED DISPATCH?
>> IT SEEMS THROUGHOUT THIS
THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT DATA
RETENTION, DATA BEING HELD
LONGER THAN SEEMS NECESSARY,
AND THE STATE LAW WHICH I'M
UNDERSTANDING IS 90 DAYS.
I'M WONDERING IF THERE WERE
RECOMMENDATIONS OR A STATE OF
PREFERENCE FOR WHAT THE DATA
RETENTION POLICY COULD LOOK
LIKE IF IT WEREN'T FOR THIS
STATE LAW AND IF THERE'S ANY
WAY TO ADDRESS THAT OR TRY AND
INCORPORATE SOMETHING
DIFFERENT.
>> I CAN GET THOSE SPECIFICS TO
YOU ABOUT THE PREFERENCE FOR
THE RETENTION PERIODS, SO I
COULD SEND THOSE TO YOU.
THE STATE LAW PRETTY MUCH
BLUSHES WHAT THEY ARE.
>> THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION.
ALL RIGHT.
THE NEXT ITEM, I'M SURE WE'LL
HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
LET'S DIVE INTO THAT.
>> I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH
THAT MORE SLOWLY.
SO, THE APPROVAL WOULD APPROVE
CONTINUED USE OF THIS
TECHNOLOGY, BEING USED IN TWO
APPLICATIONS RIGHT NOW.
ONE IS INDIVIDUAL REPORTING OF
LOW-LEVEL CRIMES, AND THE OTHER
IS THEFT REPORTING.
SO INDIVIDUAL REPORT OF LOW-
LEVEL CRIMES WOULD BE, IF YOU
WERE BURGLARIZED, FOR EXAMPLE,
AND NEEDED TO FILE AN INSURANCE
CLAIM, YOU COULD FILE THIS
ONLINE AND GET THE POLICE
REPORT NUMBER TO PUT INTO YOUR
INSURANCE CLAIM FOR YOUR
INSURANCE CLAIM.
THE THEY WANT REPORTING IS
DIFFERENT AND THIS IS USED BY
BUSINESS OWNERS TO BE ABLE TO
REPORT SUSPECTED SHOPLIFTING OR
SHOP LEFTERS, INSTEAD OF HAVING
A POLICE OFFICER SHOW UP.
I WOULD MENTION THAT THE POLICE
SAY THE BUSINESS APPLICATION OF
THIS SAVES THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT A MILLION DOLLARS A
YEAR, AND 20,000 HOUSE OF
POLICE TIME A YEAR.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES
THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY SOME
MEMBERS ABOUT THAT PROGRAM.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID
IDENTIFY DISPARATE IMPACT FOR
SURE AS THAT INFORMATION COULD
BE DISSEMINATED IN A WAY THAT
COULD IMPACT PEOPLE'S CIVIL
LIBERTIES AND COULD CONTRIBUTE
AND REINFORCE RACISM, WHICH
WOULD CREATE A DISPARATE IMPACT
ON HISTORICALLY TARGETED
COMMUNITIES.
>> FOR THE SAVING OF THE
MILLION DOLLARS AND POLICE
HOURS, WAS THAT JUST FOR THE
RETAIL COMPONENT?
>> YES.
>> OKAY, THANKS.
>> THE PUBLIC COMMENTS
EXPRESSED SOME SUPPORT FOR THE
TECHNOLOGY, I BELIEVE FOR THE
INDIVIDUAL TRACK TO BE IN
LANGUAGES OTHER THAN ENGLISH
AND THE POTENTIAL FOR BIAS IN
THE REPORTS AND UNFAIR
COLLECTION OF SUSPECTS AND DATA
RETENTION CONCERNS.
SO THE IMPACT ASSESSMENT ISSUES
PARALLELLED A LOT OF THOSE WITH
THE DATA RETENTION, IMPACTS OF
CIVIL LIBERTIES RETAIL THEFT
PROGRAM.
THE GROUP DISCONTINUED REACHING
OUTSIDE THROUGH THE TRACK.
THE CTO'S RESPONSE WAS
PROVIDING QUALITY MITIGATION
FOR CONCERNS.
AGAIN, THOSE WOULD BE BEST
ADDRESSED BY THE DEPARTMENTS
AFFECTED BY THE
RECOMMENDATIONS.
CTO DOESN'T HAVE INSIGHT INTO
HOW ALL THE DEPARTMENTS
OPERATE.
WITH THE CONCERNS I'VE
IDENTIFIED GOING FORWARD, THE
RETAIL THEFT REPORTING
AMENDMENT IS AFFECTING
SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO
WORK ON HOW TO CRAFT THAT
AMENDMENT, AND THE REQUEST FOR
THE SAME PRIVACY RESTRICTIONS
THE CITY HAS, WHICH MAY BE
DEFINITELY TO NEGOTIATE.
AGAIN, THE COUNCIL COULD
REQUEST TO LOOK INTO THAT WHERE
FEASIBLE.
THOSE ARE THE TWO ISSUES I SAW.
>> THIS TOP LOGIC IS FILE
REPORTS ONLINE AND THE RETAIL
COMPANY WHERE STORE OWNERS AND
PROPRIETORS CAN REGISTER THINGS
WITHOUT HAVING THE POLICE SHOW
UP?
BUT WE HAVE THE CAPTAIN HERE TO
TALK FURTHER ABOUT THIS.
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES?
>> THANK YOU.
YOU WANT TO JUST RELA THE
ISSUES WITH TOP LOGIC, CONCERNS
THAT FOLKS HAVE.
WE RECEIVED LOT OF COMMENTS
FROM FOLKS, ONE OF WHOM
SUGGESTED THAT A LOT OF
CONCERNS COULD BE MINIMIZED BY
GOING FROM A CLOUD-HOSTED
SERVICE TO A LOCALLY HOSTED
SYSTEM.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S
BEING CONSIDERED AS A WAY TO
ADDRESS THE WORK GROUP
CONCERNS.
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OFFED
WHERES.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE CLOUD-
BASED SERVICES ARE MORE
FINANCIALLY PRUDENT.
IN TERMS OF SHARING OF THE
INFORMATION, WE ARE LOOKING AT
THE WAY IT WAS PHRASED HERE,
THAT THEY WERE SHARING OUR DATA
WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE.
I DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACT HERE,
BUT MOST OF THE CONTRACTS
LIMITS THAT, THAT CAN IT'S OUR
DATA AND YOU'RE JUST STORING IT
FOR US.
IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT IT, WE
CAN DO ANYTHING THE COUNCIL
REQUESTS.
I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO GINGER
OR SOMEONE ELSE IN THAT.
>> THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS AND
THE WAY WE VET OUR CLOUD
PROVIDERS ARE BEING SURE THE
DATA IS OWNED BY THE CITY.
AND IN MANY CASES THERE'S NOT A
LOT OF CHANGE WE CAN MAKE
HAPPEN BECAUSE OF OTHER
CUSTOMERS IN PLACE.
THAT'S WHY WHEN WE GO INTO
CONTRACTS, USUALLY ANY DATABASE
THEY ARE PROVIDING IS FOR OUR
TERMS.
WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE PLACE
WITHOUT US KNOWING.
>> I'LL PROBABLY HAVE FOLLOW-UP
QUEST OFFLINE.
>> WE CAN DO THAT.
I SEE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS
HERE, AND I WANT TO ENSURE ALL
THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE
CONSIDERING THESE AND WHAT
CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE, EVEN
IF WE DON'T ARTICULATE THEM
TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE
QUESTION PUBLICLY THAT I
RECEIVED INFORMATION ABOUT IN
THE CENTRAL STAFF BRIEFING.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS
NO WHAT I TO SEPARATE OUT THE
RETAIL THEFT REPORTING
COMPONENT FROM THE MEMBER OF
THE PUBLIC THEFT REPORTING
COMPONENT, THAT THOSE ARE
INTEGRATED INTO A SINGLE
TECHNOLOGY AND IT'S NOT
POSSIBLE TO BUY ONE PART OF IT
AND NOT POSSIBLE BUY/USE THE
OTHER PART OF IT.
IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK WHEN
YOU AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT
THAT, I WAS UNDER THE
IMPRESSION ABOUT WHETHER WE
WERE CURIOUS IF WE COULD HAVE
TWO FOR EACH TRACK.
I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO THE
CAPTAIN.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'M NOT 100% SURE BECAUSE I
DIDN'T WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
I'M JUST HERE BECAUSE I KNOW A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
THE RETAIL THEFT REPORTING
PROGRAM IS VERY STRICT.
EVERY REPORT THAT'S SUBMITTED
IS REVIEWED BY A POLICE OFFICER
BEFORE IT'S ACCEPTED, SO THE
DETECTIVE IN CHARGE OF EVERY
PROGRAM READS EVERY REPORT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE 59 5:00 TOUGH
RETALL STORES RIGHT NOW AND 12
MORE, SO THAT REDUCES THE TIME
FOR PEOPLE SO SIT AND WAIT ON A
POLICE OFFICER.
BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF
CRITERIA IN THERE.
THEY HAVE TO DESCRIBE THE CRIME
IN DETALL ANALYST ALL THE
EVIDENCE.
UNFORTUNATELY THEY USUALLY HAVE
A VIDEO SYSTEM OR RECEIPT
SYSTEM AND THEY PRESENT ALL
THAT BUT ONCE THEY SUBMIT THAT,
THEY HAVE TO SIGN A FORM SAYING
ALL THE INFORMATION IS TRUE AND
CORRECT OR FACE PERJURY
CHARGES.
THERE'S STILL THAT
ACCOUNTABILITY BUILT IN SAYING,
YEAH, EVERYTHING HERE IS
ACCURATE.
ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T MEET THE
CRITERIA, THE DETECTIVE KICKS
BACK.
THEY HAVE I BELIEVE 120 DAYS TO
UPDATE THE INFORMATION AND
ANSWER THOSE, AND THE DETECTIVE
CAN ACCEPT IT AND FILE WITH THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THEY WILL ACCEPT IT AND IT GOES
INTO THE SYSTEM.
IF WE DON'T ACCEPT IT, IT
DOESN'T STICK AROUND.
IN TERMS OF THAT, I THINK THERE
ARE SOME COMPONENTS THAT HELP
PROTECT PEOPLE WHO MAY BE NEWLY
DETAINED TO BE SURE SOMEONE
CAN'T OVERTLY DO SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
>> WE GET A TIP SAYING THERE'S
A GRAY-HAIRED GENTLEMAN WITH A
SHARP SUIT WEARING A BLUE TIE,
THERE'S NO PERSONALLY
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION.
SAME THING HAPPENS WHEN THE
OFFICER GETS THERE.
IT SPEEDS IT UP BECAUSE THEY
CAN ADD THE INFORMATION TO THE
CASE REPORT AND THE DETECTIVE
CAN LOOK AT ALL THE EVIDENCE.
IN THE FIELD, WE OFTENTIMES
HAVE TO WAIT FOR A THUMB DRIVE
AND SHIP IT BACK AND FORTH.
SO IT HAS A VERY GOOD BENEFIT.
20,000 HOURS WAS THE ASSESSMENT
OF 2018, WHICH IS JUST OVER A
MILLION DOLLARS.
>> WE COULD POTENTIALLY HEAR
THE LAST ITEM, THE LAST
TECHNICAL, AND IF YOU STILL
HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN COME BACK
TO IT.
TO KEEP US MOVING HERE, IF YOU
DON'T MIND, DO THE LAST ONE FOR
US?
>> IT WOULD BE APPROVE AS THE
911 LOGGING RECORDER.
I THINK GINGER DESCRIBED THIS
AS AUTOMATICALLY RECORDING ALL
TELEPHONE CALLS BETWEEN
DISPATCHERS AND PATROL
OFFICERS.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
IDENTIFIED SOME POTENTIAL
DISPARATE IMPACTS AND CIVIL
LIBERTIES IMPACT, SIMILAR TO
WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED FOR THE CAD
SYSTEM, POSSIBLE EXPOSURE OF
PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE
INFORMATION, POTENTIAL RACISM.
THE PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED
SOME SUPPORT FOR THIS AND
CONCERNS WERE ABOUT DATA USE
AND AND SHARING.
THE IMPACT ASSESSMENT ISSUES
RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
ALLOWABLE USE OF DATA, DATA
RETENTION AND SHARING AND
VENDOR AND THIRD-PARTY CONTRACT
REVISIONS.
THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS HERE,
I BROKE OUT THE CONSIDERATIONS
HERE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
IT'S BASIC WILL I THE
RESTRICTIONS OP USE THAT WE CAN
ADDRESS AND THEN THE SAME
MEDICINE INTEREST IN HOLDING
VENDORS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE SAME
POLICIES AS THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS.
WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT
THE EQUITY ASSESSMENTS.
>> THANK YOU.
SINCE WE HAVE GOTTEN THE
PRESENTATIONS TODAY, GOTTEN THE
COUNCIL BILLS AND MEMOS, A LOT
TO GO THROUGH,MENT WE TRY AND
GET AMENDMENTS TO LISA OVER THE
NEXT WEEK.
HER POLICY AMENDMENT SLIDES ARE
A GOOD PLACE TO START.
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY LIKE
GINGER AND AMARI ARE AVAILABLE
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
MY STAFF CAN BE A SOUNDING
BOARD AS WELL.
WE JUST WANT COMMITTEE MEMBERS
TO THINK OF POTENTIAL
AMENDMENTS SO LEE SAP HAS
ENOUGH TIME TO RUN THEM BY THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND
MAYBE BY THE CITY OFFICE.
SINCE WE ARE AT 12:30, I'M JUST
WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR PETERSON.
IS THERE A TIME CONSTRAINT IN
WHICH WE NEED TO PASS THESE
ORDINANCES BY?
I SEE GINGER SHAKING HER HEAD
NO.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS
WITH YOU OFFLINE.
WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER
COMMITTEE MEETING BEFORE WE
PASS THESE.
I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS
I DIDN'T ASK IN THE INTEREST OF
TIME TODAY, ANDIC DIVING INTO
THESE POLICIES MORE DEEPLY
COULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME.
I'LL JUST RAISE MY GENERAL
QUESTIONS TO EACH OF THE FIVE
POLICIES: HOW DO WE ENSURE
THESE POLICIES ARE ENFORCEABLE?
AND I LOOK TO SEE THE CONCERNS
RAISED BY THE WORKING GROUP AND
THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I WANT TO BE SURE THE CONCERNS
HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, BECAUSE
THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT
NECESSARILY THE RECOMMENDATIONS
INTENDED, SO I THINK WE MAY
HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THAT
CROSSWALK.
ING FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS ON THE
LINE THAT THOSE ARE MY
QUESTIONS, AND UP I'M HAPPY TO
TAKE YOUR DIRECTION, CHAIRER.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS.
PHYSICAL YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ON
SPD ITEMS, ONE IDEA IS TO MOVE
TO THE ITEMS RATHER THAN HAVING
ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEETING.
WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE
MEETING ABOUT IT, BUT RATHER
THAN THREE, PUSH THE SECOND ONE
OUT TO GIVE MORE TIME FOR
ANALYSIS AND DISCUSSION,
PUSHING IT OUT TO THE APRIL 7th
MEETING FOR THE SPD ITEMS, FOR
EXAMPLE, JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY
MORE TIME.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS
BECAUSE THERE WERE 26
TECHNOLOGIES IDENTIFIED AND
BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS ON COVID,
WE ARE TRYING TO BE RESPONSE UV
TO THAT ORDINANCE, WHICH HAS
DEADLINES ON WHEN THEY NEED TO
BE SUBMITTED TO US.
WE'LL HEAR GROUP THREE AND FOUR
TECHNOLOGIES, AND SO WE ALSO
WANT TO DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST
TIME.
THAT'S ONE IDEA, TO THE HEAR
THE CITY LIGHT AND FIRE
DEPARTMENT STUFF, TO VOTE ON IT
AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 17th
AND THEN TO GIVE MORE TIME -- A
MONTH -- TO COME HERE AND HEAR
MORE ON THE 7th.
MY CLERK WOULD PROBABLY BE
KICKING ME FOR MESSING UP HER
SCHEDULE, BUT I HOPE THAT
WORKS.
>> ONE OF MY CONCERNS, THOUGH,
OR ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES OF
HAVING THE COMMITTEE
DISCUSSIONS IS THAT ALL
COMMITTEE MEMBERS HEAR THE
QUESTIONS AND ALL DEPARTMENTS
CAN ANSWER ON THE RECORD.
I THINK THERE'S A BENEFIT TO
USING COMMITTEE TIME, APOLOGIES
TO THE DIRECTOR OF YOUR
COMMITTEE STAFF.
JUST FLAGGING THAT BECAUSE OF
THE RULES, HAVING CONVERSATIONS
AMONGST OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS
AND COVERING OURSELVES, HAVING
IT IN THE OPEN SESSION MAY BE
HELPFUL.
>> THANK YOU.
LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT.
WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT
OPTIONS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ON
HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
THANKS FOR CONSIDERING THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
GREAT WORK.
>> IT'S NOW 12:33.
WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO GET
THEREUPON ALL THESE ITEMS.
I KNOW THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS
AS WE MOVE TOWARD MARCH 17th
AND APRIL 7th COMMITTEES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE
ADJOURN?
COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES?
OKAY.
EVERYBODY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT WAS THE FINAL ITEM AND THE
COMMITTEE IS NOW ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.