>>> MEETING OF THE
TRANSPORTATION UTILITIES
COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER.
THE TIME IS 9:30 A.M.
I'M ALEX PEDERSEN, CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> PRESENT.
>> FIVE PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU.
QUICK UPDATE ON OUR COMMITTEE
AGENDA.
ONE OF THE TRANSIT ADVISESY
BOARD APPOINTEES IS NO LONGER
AVAILABLE TO SERVE SO IF
THERE'S NO OBJECTION WE WILL
REMOVE AGENDA ITEM 4 WHICH WAS
APPOINTMENT 2075.
SO WE'LL REMOVE THAT AGENDA
ITEM.
REMOVING AGENDA ITEM 4. HEARING
NO OBJECTION, ITEM 4 IS
REMOVED.
AND IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION
WE'LL ADOPT THE AMENDED AGENDA.
HEARING NO OBJECTION THE AGENDA
IS ADOPTED.
GOOD MORNING.
WELCOME TO THE SECOND TO LAST
MEETING OF THE TRANSPORTATION
AND UTILITIES COMMITTEE OF
2021.
THIS IS ALSO THE LAST MEETING
FROM WHICH ITEMS VOTED OUT OF
THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE ABLE TO
GO TO FULL COUNCIL BEFORE THE
END OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S BECAUSE THE LAST FULL
COUNCIL MEETING OF THIS YEAR
WILL BE ON DECEMBER 13, BUT OUR
NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING IS NOT
UNTIL DECEMBER 15.
TODAY'S AGENDA INCLUDES FOUR
MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS TO
TRANSPORTATION BOARDS.
A PRESENTATION ON COUNCIL
MEMBER MOSQUEDA'S PROPOSAL TO
WAIVE FEES FOR PUBLICLY FUNDED
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA MIGHT
JOIN US FOR THAT.
SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN
THE REMOTE GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD.
I ASK THAT EVERYONE PLEASE BE
PATIENT AS WE OPERATE THIS
ONLINE SYSTEM.
WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING FOR
WAYS TO FINE TUNE THIS PROCESS.
IT REMAINS A STRONG INTENT OF
THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE PUBLIC
COMMENT REGULARLY INCLUDED ON
MEETING AGENDAS.
HOWEVER THE CITY COUNCIL
RESERVES THE RIGHT TO MODIFY
THESE IF IT WE DEEM THE SYSTEM
IS BEING ABUSED OR IS
UNSUITABLE FOR ALLOWING OUR
MEETINGS TO BE CONDUCTED
EFFICIENTLY AND IN A MANNER IN
WHICH WE'RE ABLE TO CONDUCT OUR
NECESSARY BUSINESS.
I WILL MODERATE THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD IN THE FOLLOWING
MANNER.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THIS
MEETING WILL BE UP TO 20
MINUTES.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO
MINUTES TO SPEAK.
CALL ON THE SPEAKERS TWO AT A
TIME IN THE ORDER IN WHICH
THEY'RE REGISTERED.
IF YOU'VE NOT YET REGISTERED TO
SPEAK BUT WOULD LIKE TO, YOU
CAN SIGN UP BEFORE THE END OF
THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD BY
GOING TO THE COUNCIL'S WEBSITE
SEATTLE.GOV/COUNCIL.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT LINK IS ALSO
LISTED ON TODAY'S COMMITTEE
AGENDA.
ONCE I CALL A SPEAKER'S NAME,
STAFF WILL UNMUTE THE
APPROPRIATE MICROPHONE AN
AUTOMATIC PROMPT WILL BE THE
SPEAKER'S CUE THAT IT IS THEIR
TURN TO SPEAK AND THE SPEAKER
MUST PRESS STAR 6 TO BEGIN
SPEAKING.
PRESS STAR 6. PLEASE BEGIN
SPEAKING BY STATING YOUR NAME
AND THE ITEM YOU ARE
ADDRESSING.
AS A REMINDER, PUBLIC COMMENT
SHOULD RELATE TO AN ITEM ON
TODAY'S AGENDA.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
10 SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THE A
LOTTED TIME.
ONCE YOU HEAR THE CHIME WE ASK
THAT YOU BEGIN TO WRAP UP YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF SPEAKERS DO NOT END THEIR
COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE A
LOTTED TIME THE SPEAKER'S
MICROPHONE WILL BE MUTED TO
ALLOW US TO CALL ON THE NEXT
SPEAKER.
ONCE YOU'VE COMPLETED YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT WE ASK THAT YOU
PLEASE DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE
AND IF YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE
FOLLOWING THIS MEETING YOU CAN
DO SO VIA SEATTLE CHANNEL OR
THE LISTENING OPTIONS LISTED ON
THE AGENDA.
IF YOU ARE CALLING ABOUT
COUNCIL BILL 120320 OR
RESOLUTION 32030, PLEASE WAIT
UNTIL LATER IN THE AGENDA FOR
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THOSE
TWO ITEMS.
THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC
HEARING.
THE REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD FOR THIS COMMITTEE
MEETING IS NOW OPEN.
AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE
FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
ACTUALLY WE HAVE JUST ONE
SPEAKER SO FAR.
THAT IS MAX BAKER.
PLEASE PRESS STAR 6 AND GO
AHEAD.
>> HI.
APOLOGIES IF I DON'T HAVE AN
ITEM RELATED TO TODAY'S AGENDA
BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK GENERALLY
TO THE PROPOSED TRANSPORTATION
PLAN AND A BIT ABOUT THE VISION
ZERO PLAN OF THE PAST.
TEN YEARS AGO I CAME UPON A
DEAD CYCLIST IN THE ROAD WHO
HAD BEEN HIT BY A TRUCK JUST
MINUTES BEFORE AND THAT IMAGE
STICKS WITH ME TODAY.
ESPECIALLY NOW THAT I BIKE
THESE STREETS WITH MY TODDLER
EVERY DAY.
WHEN DELRIDGE SHOWED UP A AS
PROTECTED BIKE LANE PRIORITY I
WAS EXCITED TO THINK THIS AREA
HAS BECOME SAFE.
I VOTED STRONGLY BECAUSE OF
THIS.
REMOVE BIKE LANES AS ADVOCACY
GROUPS AND RESIDENTS PUSHED
BACK.
THEN THE PANDEMIC CAME ALONG
AND THE BRIDGE CLOSED.
BIKE SALES SKYROCKETED.
WITH A 1500% INCREASE IN BIKE
TRIPS.
NOTHING ACTUALLY CHANGED TO THE
PLANS THEMSELVES.
DELRIDGE IS DONE AND WHAT WE
HAVE IS STREET PARKING WHERE
NEARLY EVERY BUSINESS AND HOME
HAS OFFSTREET PARKING AND
DEDICATED TURN LANES.
WE WERE PROVIDED WITH A BIKE
LANE THAT ONLY GOES ONE WAY
WITHOUT A RETURN OPTION IT'S
ESSENTIALLY USELESS.
I STILL SEE BIKERS HONKED AT BY
CARS.
WHY ARE THEY STILL BIKING HERE?
THIS WAS THE ONE FLAT ROUTE AND
EVERYTHING FOR LOCALS IS HERE
ON THE STREET.
THE SCHOOLS ACCIDENT THE DAY
CARES, THE LIBRARIES, THE
COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE'LL JUST GO BIKE ON THE
GREENWAY.
YOU MEAN THE GREENWAY WHERE
LAST SUMMER I WITNESSED A CAR
TURN ON TO WITHOUT SLOWING?
HAD SOMEONE BEEN IN THAT STREET
THEY SURELY WOULD HAVE BEEN
KILLED.
I DO NOT EXAGGERATE WHEN I SAY
THIS EVERY FRIEND WE HAVE OR
MADE HAS MOVED.
ONE TOLD ME THE MOMENTS THEY
WERE MOVING THE NORTHBOUND BIKE
LANE IN RONT OF HER HOUSE WAS
THE MOMENT SHE DECIDED TO MOVE.
CITY DEDICATED TO REDUCING ITS
DEPENDENCE ON CARS.
CONTINUES TO PUSH NONVEHICLE
TRANSPORTATION FURTHER DOWN ITS
PRIORITIES.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THOSE COMMENTS AND PLEASE SEND
THE REST OF YOUR COMMENTS TO
THE COUNCIL.
YOU CAN SEND IT TO
COUNCIL@SEATTLE.GOV OR YOU CAN
SEND IT TO ME AS THE CHAIR.
THANK YOU.
THIS CONCLUDES THE LIST OF
SPEAKERS FROM THE GENERAL
PUBLIC.
LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
YES.
THAT CONCLUDES THE LIST OF
SPEAKERS FROM THE GENERAL
PUBLIC.
NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE FIRST
LEGISLATIVE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
TITLE OF THE FIRST TWO AGENDA
ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEMS 1 AND 2,
APPOINTMENTS 2072 AND 2073.
APPOINTMENTS OF JOSE ULISES
NINO RIVERA AND DIANE TEH-MEI
WALSH AS MEMBERS SEATTLE
BICYCLE ADVISE RAISE BOARD FOR
TERMS TO AUGUST 31, 2023.
FOR BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
YES, THESE ARE TWO MAYORAL
APPOINTMENTS.
THE SEATTLE BIKE BOARD.
APPRECIATE THEIR WILLINGNESS TO
SERVE.
WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO SIMON
BLENSKI FROM SDOT TO TELL US
ABOUT THE BOARD AND THESE TWO
NEW MEMBERS AND THEIR
APPOINTMENT PACKETS ARE ON THE
AGENDA.
IF THEY'RE HERE WITH US WE'LL
GET TO HEAR FROM THEM.
HI, SIMON.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
YEAH, JOSE AND DIANE ARE BOTH
HERE.
MY NAME IS SIMON BLENSKI.
I'M TRANSPORTATION PLANNER WITH
SDOT AND I'M ALSO THE STAFF
LIAISON FOR THE BICYCLE
ADVISORY BOARD.
THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND
CITY DEPARTMENTS ON PROJECTS,
POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT
IMPROVE OR AFFECT CONDITIONS IN
SEATTLE.
THE BOARD HAS 12 MEMBERS.
I'M HERE TO RECOMMEND THE
APPOINTMENT OF TWO NEW MEMBERS
FOR TWO YEAR TERMS THROUGH
AUGUST OF 2023.
I WILL HAND IT OVER NEXT TO
JOSE TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND
INTRODUCE HIMSELF THEN FOLLOWED
BY DIANE.
>> THANK YOU.
WELCOME.
>> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> GREAT.
MY NAME IS JOSE ULISES NINO
RIVERA.
I'M BEING APPOINTED FOR MY
FIRST FULL TERM TO THE SEATTLE
BICYCLE ADVISORY BOARD.
THIS TERM I HOPE TO FOCUS ON
ENSURING BY INFRASTRUCTURE IS
THE SIGN AND BUILD TO ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM
ALL AGES AND ABILITIES TO SHIFT
TRANSPORTATION TO BIKING.
ONE OF THE BEST AVENUES WE HAVE
IN REDUCING CARBON EMISSIONS IN
THE PERSONAL TRANSPORTATION
SECTOR.
SOMETHING WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH
IF WE WANT TO COMBAT THE
EXISTENTIAL THREAT OF CLIMATE
CHANGE.
THANKS FOR GIVING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITY.
>> THANK YOU FOR SERVING US.
WELCOME.
DIANE, WELCOME.
>> SORRY.
HI, MY NAME IS DIANE WALSH.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND
ABOUT MYSELF.
I'VE BEEN IN SEATTLE FOR THE
PAST TEN YEARS WHERE I MOVED UP
HERE FOR A MASTERS OF LANDSCAPE
ARCHITECTURE AT UW AND THEN
MOVED ON TO WORK AT SDOT IN THE
PUBLIC SPACE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
WHERE I WORKED ON PROGRAMS TO
ACTIVATE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I VIEW BICYCLING AND GOOD
BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE AS AN
INTEGRAL PART OF OUR
FUNCTIONING TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEM AND A WAY TO MAKE THE
CITY MORE VIBRANT AND PEOPLE
CENTERED.
I PERSONALLY BIKE AS MY PRIMARY
FORM OF TRANSPORTATION WHEN I
CAN BECAUSE OF THE PERSONAL AND
SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL
BENEFITS, BUT I REALIZE THAT
NOT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO
BIKING IN THIS WAY SO WOULD
LIKE TO REDUCE SOME OF THOSE
BARRIERS TO ENTRY.
I HAVE TWO KIDS WHO ARE NOW OF
BIKING AGE WHERE THEY CAN RIDE
IN THE ROAD AND IT'S KIND OF
TERRIFYING.
SO I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
HELP ADVOCATE FOR AND IMAGINE A
CITY WHERE A 4 OR 5-YEAR-OLD
COULD SAFELY AND COMFORTABLY
BIKE THROUGH ANY PART OF THE
CITY.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE
PROSPECT OF BEING ON THE BOARD.
THANKS.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS
FOR THESE TWO MAYORAL
APPOINTEES TO THE SEATTLE BIKE
ADVISORY BOARD?
I KNOW YOU'VE ALL READ THE
PACKETS.
SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
AND THAT'S FINE.
I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND JOSE,
CONTINUING TO SERVE.
LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM
THE BIKE BOARD DIRECTLY, AS
WELL AS THEY HAVE A LIAISON TO
THE MOVE SEATTLE LEVY OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE WHICH IS HELPFUL TO
INTEGRATE WHEN TALKING ABOUT
ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION TO
HAVE CYCLING ADVOCATES AT THE
TABLE THERE AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WOULD
LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF
APPOINTMENTS 2072 AND 2073
ITEMS 1 AND 2 ON OUR AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED.
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THESE
APPOINTMENTS.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
THAT THE APPOINTMENTS BE
CONFIRMED WILL BE SENT TO THE
DECEMBER 6th CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR
APPOINTEES FOR MOVING TO THE
NEXT STEP.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY
AS WELL.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
TITLE OF THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM
INTO THE RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM 3. APPOINTMENT
2074.
APPOINTMENT OF AMIN AMOS FOR A
TERM TO AUGUST 2, 2023 FOR
BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> GREAT.
WE HAVE NICO FROM SDOT HERE
WITH US AND AS I MENTIONED
BEFORE, THE OTHER APPOINTMENT
IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO SERVE
BUT REALLY APPRECIATE THE
APPOINTEE WHO IS HERE THIS
MORNING WITH US AND WE'LL HEAR
FROM NICO FROM SDOT FIRST.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I WANTED TO PASS ALONG AUTUMN'S
SINCERE APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING
ABLE TO SERVE.
SHE WAS VERY EXCITED BUT SOME
FAMILY CIRCUMSTANCES GOT IN THE
WAY.
BY WAY OF QUICK BACKGROUND.
THE TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD WAS
CREATED IN 2015 AFTER PASSAGE
OF THE 2014 SEATTLE
TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT DISTRICT
PROPOSITION 1. THE TRANSIT
ADVISORY BOARD HAS TWO MAIN
CHARGES.
FIRST ADVISING THE CITY AND OUR
PARTNERS ON TRANSIT AND TRANSIT
ISSUES WITHIN SEATTLE AND MORE
SPECIFICALLY PROVIDING
OVERSIGHT OF FUNDS COLLECTED
AND SPEND UNDER THE 2020
SEATTLE TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT
DISTRICT PROPOSITION 1. THE
BOARD IS MADE UP OF 12 MEMBERS.
SIX MAYORAL APPOINTEES AND ONE
GET ENGAGED MEMBER.
AS MENTIONED WE HAVE ONE
APPOINTMENT IN FRONT OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION
TODAY.
I WILL HAND IT OFF TO AMIN TO
TELL US ABOUT HIMSELF.
>> HI, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE
TODAY.
MY NAME IS AMIN AMOS.
I'M A LIFE LONG TRANSIT USE
PER.
I'M EXCITED TO LOOK FORWARD TO
USING ESTABLISHED AND FRESH
METHODS TO MAKE USING TRANSIT A
MORE ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE IN
SEATTLE.
I LOVE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN
DONE SO FAR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE -- GOT MY PROP 1 SIGN
HERE.
WE'RE EXCITED THAT SEATTLE
VOTERS CHOSE TO RENEW THAT.
WE PUT VARIOUS CATEGORIES IN
IT.
A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF
CONCERNS WITH WEST SEATTLE
BRIDGE CLOSED AND HAD WE'RE
EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW LIGHT
RAIL STATIONS OPENING UP TRYING
TO COORDINATE WITH THOSE LIGHT
RAIL STATIONS TO GET PEOPLE OUT
OF THEIR CARS.
APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
SERVE ON THIS SO WE CAN GET
MORE PEOPLE TO RIDE TRANSIT.
COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS FOR
OUR APPOINTEE HERE?
>> REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
THANK YOU.
COLLEAGUES, I'D LIKE TO MOVE
THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF APPOINTMENT 2074
ITEM 3 ON OUR AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
APPOINTMENT.
ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT
THE APPOINTMENT BE CONFIRMED
WILL BE SENT TO THE DECEMBER
6th CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
CONGRATULATIONS ON ADVANCING.
APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
SERVE AND FOR BEING HERE THIS
MORNING.
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT.
WE REMOVED ITEM 4 FROM THE
AGENDA.
NEXT ITEM 5. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE READ THE TITLE OF THE
NEXT AGENDA ITEM INTO THE
RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 5. APPOINTMENT
2076.
APPOINTMENT OF ROBIN SCHWARTZ
AS MEMBER, SEATTLE SCHOOL
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR A
TERM TO MARCH 31, 2023.
FOR BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER MAYORAL
APPOINTMENT AND THIS IS SCHOOL
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
APPRECIATE WILLINGNESS TO
SERVE.
WE HAVE JENNIFER HERE FROM SDOT
TO TELL US ABOUT THIS
PARTICULAR COMMITTEE AND THEN
WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR APPOINTEE.
GOOD MORNING, JENNIFER.
>> MORNING.
THANK YOU.
I'M A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER
WITH SDOT AND I'M ALSO THE SDOT
LIAISON TO THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE.
THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE WAS CREATED IN 1975
TO BRING TOGETHER SEATTLE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THE CITY AND
PARENTS TO IMPROVE SAFE ROUTES
TO SCHOOLS.
AND THE COMMITTEE WORKS CLOSELY
WITH SDOT, THE SDOT SAFE SCHOOL
PROGRAM TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR
STUDENTS TO WALK AND BIKE TO
SCHOOL.
THE COMMITTEE HAS 11 BOARD
MEMBERS, INCLUDING
REPRESENTATIVES FROM SEATTLE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS, SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION,
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, KING
COUNTY METRO AND FIVE VOLUNTEER
POSITIONS.
ROBIN, WHO IS HERE TODAY WOULD
SERVE ONE OF THE VOLUNTEER
POSITIONS.
AND I WILL GIVE ROBIN A FEW
MINUTES TO INTRODUCE HERSELF.
>> THANKS, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS ROBIN SCHWARTZ.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
I'M A COMMUNITY MEMBER IN SOUTH
PARK AND MY YOUNGER KID GOES TO
SCHOOL DOWN HERE.
THAT'S HOW I GOT INTERESTED IN
THIS.
MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, DOING
WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS KIND OF
FOREMOST, ESPECIALLY IN THE
LAST YEAR AND A HALF WITH THE
BRIDGE.
I ALSO AM REALLY INVESTED IN
THE IDEA OF TITLE I SCHOOLS
ORGANIZING TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, HIGH POVERTY
COMMUNITIES FIND IT HARD TO
ORGANIZE A LOT OF TIMES AND
THIS IS WHEN WE ALSO HAVE I
THINK MORE SAFETY PEDESTRIAN
ISSUES THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M EXCITED TO
SERVE.
I HAVE KIND OF A NETWORK OF
ESPECIALLY SOUTHWEST TITLE I
COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH THEM AND WITH THE SAFETY
COMMITTEE TO MAKE THINGS EASIER
FOR OUR KIDS TO GET TO SCHOOL.
THANKS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I KNOW THE SAFETY COMMITTEE DID
A LOT OF WORK ON THEIR END
REPORT AND IT IT WAS REALLY
HEARTENING TO SEE THE SEATTLE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS WORKING WITH
SDOT AND WORKING WITH COMMUNITY
MEMBERS AND ONE OF THEIR
PROPOSALS WAS TO HAVE THE CITY
COUNCIL FUND GPS SOFTWARE FOR
SCHOOL BUSES AND THERE'S A LOT
OF SUPPORT FOR THAT.
WE JUST BECAUSE THE REVENUES ON
THE CITY SIDE WENT DOWN WE
WEREN'T ABLE TO FUND THAT ITEM.
WE TRIED TO DO THAT.
WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT
IN 2022 AND THEN HEAR WHAT ELSE
-- WHAT OTHER PRIORITY THERE
ARE.
THERE ARE LOTS OF IMPORTANT
ISSUES WITH SAFE ROUTES TO
SCHOOL AND CROSSING GUARDS AND
OTHER ISSUES.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
JUST WANT TO ADD MY REALLY
STRONG SUPPORT FOR ROBIN'S
CANDIDACY.
WHEN SHE SAYS SHE HAS A NETWORK
OF FOLKS SHE ORGANIZES WITH,
SHE'S NOT KIDDING.
SHE'S JUST REALLY SOMEBODY THAT
THE COMMUNITY FINDS TO BE THE
GO TO PERSON ON SO MANY ISSUES
IN SOUTH PARK AND IN THE
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
SHE'S BEEN SO INVOLVED IN
PARTICULAR AT CONCORD
ELEMENTARY AND ON ROAD AND
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUES.
SHE'S A REALLY EXCELLENT FIT
FOR THIS POSITION.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT
HER EFFECTIVE AND PASSIONATE
ADVOCACY IS BEING ELEVATED TO A
LEADERSHIP ROLE HERE.
THANK YOU.
>> EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, ANY OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE MOVE ITEM.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
APPOINTMENT.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES ON THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT
THE APPOINTMENT BE CONFIRMED
WILL BE SENT TO THE DECEMBER
6th CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING.
ALL RIGHT.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
TITLE OF THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM
INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 6. PROPOSAL TO
WAIVE STREET VACATION FEES FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU.
AND I WANT TO THANK CHAIR -- I
WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER M
MOSQUEDA FOR SPONSORING THIS
LEGISLATION.
IT IMPACTS SEATTLE DEPARTMENT
OF TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE IT'S
THE FEES THAT ARE PAID FOR THE
VACATING OF STREETS OR
ALLEYWAYS AND IT ALSO AFFECTS
THE OFFICE OF HOUSING BECAUSE
IF IT'S STRUCTURED UP FRONT
THEY CAN BENEFIT.
OFFICE OF HOUSING CAN HAVE MORE
FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR PROJECT TO
INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
FOR EXAMPLE.
WHICH IS A PRIORITY OF OURS.
SO WE'RE HEARING THIS ITEM IN
BOTH COMMITTEES.
IN THIS COMMITTEE WE'RE HEARING
IT JUST AS A BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION.
THE REAL ACTION WILL TAKE PLACE
NEXT WEEK, TUESDAY IN THE
FINANCE AND HOUSING COMMITTEE.
WANTED COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO
HEAR ABOUT THIS AND COUNCIL
MEMBER MOSQUEDA HAS BEEN VERY
OPEN TO INPUT ON THIS BILL.
AND SHE MAY JOIN US HERE AS
WELL.
WE WILL REACH OUT AND LET HER
KNOW WE'RE GETTING START ODDEN
THIS ONE.
WE DO HAVE CENTRAL STAFF HERE
IS WITH US.
LISH WHITSON, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR WORK ON THIS BILL.
WHY DON'T WE TURN IT OVER TO
YOU FOR A PRESENTATION AND WE
CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
LISH WHITSON.
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF.
COUNCIL BILL BILL.
STATE LAW ALLOWS BUT IN MOST
CASES DOESN'T REQUIRE THE CITY
TO REQUIRE PAYMENT OF THE
APPRAISED VALUE OF THE RIGHT OF
WAY.
ONE EXCEPTION IS SHORELINE
STREET ENDS WHERE THE CITY MUST
RECEIVE THE APPRAISED VALUE OF
THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE CITY CURRENTLY EXEMPTS
CITY, STATE AND FEDERAL
AGENCIES FROM PAYING THESE
COSTS.
THIS BILL WOULD ALSO EXEMPT
PROJECTS THAT RECEIVE CITY,
STATE, COUNTY OR FEDERAL
FUNDING AND PROVIDE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AT RENT AND INCOME
LEVELS CONSIST WITH HOUSING AND
FUNDING POLICIES.
FUNDS FROM STREET VACATIONS
UNDER STATE LAW ARE REQUIRED TO
BE ALLOCATED TO TRANSPORTATION
OR OPEN SPACE PROJECTS.
CONSEQUENTLY, THE EFFECT OF THE
BILL WOULD BE TO REDUCE
TRANSPORTATION FUNDING AND
REDUCE COSTS TO BUILD
AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN A
STREET VACATION IS REQUIRED.
AS MENTIONED THE BILL WILL BE
DISCUSSED AND POTENTIALLY VOTED
ON AT THE NEXT HOUSING AND
FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU.
>> COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I'LL HAVE
A FEW QUESTIONS HERE ABOUT THE
BILL BUT WANTED TO SEE IF
ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO GO
FIRST.
I'LL TALK VERY SLOWLY IN CASE
COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA WANTS
TO JOIN US.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK A FEW
QUESTIONS TO GET US STARTED ON
THIS.
AGAIN THE VOTING ON THIS WILL
ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE THE FINANCE
COMMITTEE NEXT TUESDAY.
SO IF THERE ARE AMENDMENTS, I
THINK LISH IS IT FAIR TO SAY
YOU'D WANT TO RECEIVE THEM THIS
WEEK SO YOU CAN REVISE THEM AND
GET THEM APPROVED BY CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ET CETERA,
AND THEN PUBLICATION
POTENTIALLY ON THE AGENDA.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
GO AHEAD.
>> SORRY.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO -- MY HAND
RAISING INTERRUPT YOUR LINE OF
QUESTIONING OR LISH' RESPONSE.
>> NO, IT'S OKAY.
LISH, IS THAT CORRECT YOU'D
LIKE TO GET THEM THIS WEEK?
>> YEAH.
AMENDMENTS THIS WEEK WOULD BE
VERY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, YOU
CAN GO FIRST WITH YOUR
QUESTIONS.
I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A VERY DEEP
BACKGROUND ON LOW INCOME
HOUSING.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST AND LISH YOU MAY HAVE
ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS AND I
MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT.
BUT THE LANGUAGE HERE REFERS TO
FROM THE AFFORDABILITY LEVELS
FOR RENTS AS CONSISTENT WITH
THE HOUSING'S FUNDING POLICIES
AS ADOPTED BY ORDNANCE 125308.
WONDERING IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT
THOSE AFFORDABILITY LEVELS.
BUT ALSO IF YOU COULD THEN DO
WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE AS IT
RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO
PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING UNITS.
THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
>> SURE.
THE BILL IS SILENT ON THE
PERCENTAGE OF UNITS IN THE
PROJECT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE
AFFORDABLE.
THEY'RE UPDATED FREQUENTLY BY
COUNCIL APPROXIMATELY EVERY TWO
YEARS.
THEY CURRENTLY REQUIRE HOUSING
TO BE AFFORDABLE AT 60% OR
BELOW OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
>> THAT'S THE REFERENCE TO IN
THE LEGISLATION TO ORDINANCE
125308?
THAT'S WHERE THE 60% IS
IDENTIFIED?
>> YEAH.
THE MOST RECENT AMENDMENT WAS
ADOPTED IN 2019.
THERE'S A STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT THAT THE
COUNCIL PASSED LAST MONTH
ASKING FOR OFFICE OF HOUSING TO
RECOMMEND SOME CHANGES TO THOSE
POLICIES.
THEY'RE UPDATED FAIRLY
FREQUENTLY AND THE IDEA IS TO
ALLOW FOR THESE REGULATIONS TO
CHANGE ALONG WITH THOSE CHANGES
TO CITY POLICY WITHOUT
REQUIRING AMENDMENTS EVERY
COUPLE YEARS.
>> THOSE SAME CITY POLICIES ARE
SILENT ON THE NUMBER OR
PERCENTAGE OF UNITS THAT ARE
EXPECTED FOR PURPOSES OF -- I
GUESS THIS WOULD BE SORT OF A
PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENT?
>> CORRECT.
>> IF WE WANTED TO SPECIFY THAT
EXPECTATION WE'D NEED TO OFFER
AN AMENDMENT.
>> CORRECT.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I KNOW WHEN WE -- WE ALL WANT
TO HAVE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND FOR THE DETAILS LIKE THAT
MATTER TREMENDOUSLY AND LIKE
YOU MENTIONED THE PERCENTAGE OF
AMI OR THE AFFORDABILITY LEVEL
AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE OF
UNITS I AGREE THAT THAT'S -- I
DON'T SEE THAT IN THE BILL AND
LISH, THANKS FOR CONFIRMING
THAT.
MAYBE THAT WAS THE INTENT TO
HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR TO
REFERENCE SOMETHING.
BUT IF IT'S NOT IRONCLAD I
WOULD SUPPORT AN AMENDMENT TO
SPECIFY THE PERCENTAGE OF UNITS
BASICALLY FOR THOSE LISTENING
IN THE PUBLIC, I GUESS THE
CONCEPT HERE AS I UNDERSTAND IT
IS WE ARE -- WE WANT TO
ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THERE IS SOMETHING THE REAL
ESTATE DEVELOPER'S ASKING FOR
TO GET THE STREET VACATED FOR
FREE, ESSENTIALLY.
OR THE ALLEYWAY FOR FREE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC
BENEFIT.
BUT THEN IT'S LIKE OKAY,
DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS.
HOW AFFORDABLE IS IT?
WE DON'T WANT A PROJECT THAT
SETS ASIDE 5% OF ITS UNITS FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING THEN GET AS
FREE, YOU KNOW, WE VACATE THE
STREET FOR NO COST.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT THE -- IN
THE MANDATORY HOUSING
AFFORDABILITY ORDINANCE, ONE OF
THE MAIN ORDINANCES -- THE
LATEST ONE.
I BELIEVE LISH, IS THIS CORRECT
IT'S A 40% -- AT LEAST 40% OF
THE UNITS NEED TO BE AFFORDABLE
FOR IT TO BE EXEMPT FROM HMA
FEES?
>> YES.
UNDER THE MANDATORY HOUSING
AFFORDABILITY HOUSING PROGRAM.
IF THEY HAVE 40% OR MORE OF
THEIR UNITS AFFORDABLE AT OR
BELOW 40%.
60% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
>> OKAY.
AND I THINK WE RECENTLY I THINK
THE COUNCIL RECENTLY GRANTED AN
EXEMPTION FROM THE VACATION
FEES OF AN ALLEYWAY FOR GRANT
STREET COMMONS IN THE MOUNT
BAKER NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HI 47% PERCENT OF THE UNITS
WERE SET ASIDE.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT THE LOW
INCOME HOUSING PROGRAM WHICH IS
POPULAR, HAS ONE OF THE
CRITERIA'S 40% OF THE UNITS
MUST BE SET ASIDE.
SO 40% SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD SEEM
TO BE A LOGICAL MINIMUM
THRESHOLD.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD IF YOU'RE
WILLING TO WORK WITH IT
TOGETHER, I'M HAPPY TO PUT
FORWARD AN AMENDMENT LIKE THAT
WITH YOU.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT -- OH, GO
AHEAD.
>> I SEE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
GONZALEZ HAS HER HAND UP.
I HAD ONE OTHER THOUGHT ON THIS
BUT I'LL HOLD IT TO HEAR FROM
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
LISH ON THIS CONVERSATION
RELATED TO IMPOSING A
PERCENTAGE, WHAT WOULD THE
EFFECT BE OF SUCH A REQUIREMENT
IN TERMS OF UNDERLYING
LEGISLATION IN THE OVERALL
OVERARCHING GOAL OF WANTING TO
MAKE IT LESS BURDENSOME TO
CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
>> YEAH.
SO A PROJECT THAT FOR EXAMPLE
HAS 30% OF UNITS AT 60% AMI AND
RECEIVES PUBLIC FUNDING FOR
THAT TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE UNITS
WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE STREET
VACATION FEES.
OR COMPENSATE THE CITY FOR THE
VALUE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY
THAT'S BEING VACATED.
SO IT WOULD INCREASE THE COST
FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
A PROJECT THAT HAS OVER 40% OF
UNITS AFFORDABLE UNDER THE
TERMS OF THIS LEGISLATION WOULD
NOT HAVE TO PAY THOSE COSTS.
>> OKAY, SO IN EFFECT COULD
THAT RESULT IN INDIVIDUALS WHO
ARE SORT OF BELOW THAT
THRESHOLD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
PENCIL OUT FOR THEM TO JUST
FORGO CREATING ANY CREATABLE
HOUSING ON SITE?
>> UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW
HOW MANY PROJECTS WE RECEIVE OR
ARE BUILT THAT INCLUDES A MIX
LIKE THAT.
BUT IT WOULD WEIGH INTO THE
DEVELOPER'S DECISION OF WHETHER
OR NOT TO PURSUE PUBLIC FUNDING
FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THAT
PROJECT.
IT WOULD BE A PROJECT SPECIFIC
DECISION.
>> LISH IS THERE A WAY FOR YOU
TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT
PROJECTS IN THE -- YOU KNOW
SORT OF HISTORIC DATA ON THE
KINDS OF PROJECTS THAT WE
RECEIVE THAT COULD HAVE OR
WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPACTED IF
THIS LEGISLATION INCLUDED A
THRESHOLD?
>> YEAH.
FOR STREET VACATION PROJECTS
GENERALLY I KNOW WE HAVE ONLY
SEEN PROJECTS WHERE 100% OF THE
UNITS WERE AFFORDABLE WITHIN
THE STRUCTURE THAT WAS
RECEIVING THE VACATION.
BUT I WILL CHECK WITH THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING ON WHETHER
THEY ARE FUNDING PROJECTS THAT
INCLUDE FOR EXAMPLE 25 OR 30%
OF UNITS AFFORDABLE.
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE
HELPFUL JUST TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
POTENTIAL AMENDMENT THAT'S
CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED WOULD
CREATE AN UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCE IN TERMS OF
FOREGOING THE CONSTRUCTION OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING OF ANY
AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE
COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
COST EFFECTIVELY IN TERMS OF
ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING
UNITS EVEN IF IT'S JUST A
HANDFUL OF THEM WOULD BE IF
THERE IS AN AMENDMENT BROUGHT
FORWARD THAT IS SUCCESSFUL THAT
WOULD REQUIRE A MINIMUM NUMBER.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE
MOTIVATION BEHIND THAT MINIMUM
NUMBER, BUT I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANTS FOR US TO HAVE A
FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE
POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCE WOULD BE
IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS
THAT WE'RE SEEING COMING
THROUGH THE PIPELINE THAT WOULD
BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY SUCH
AN AMENDMENT.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME IF
YOU COULD GATHER SOME OF THAT
INFORMATION, LISH.
>> GOOD.
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD, DID YOU
HAVE A FOLLOWUP QUESTION?
>> I THINK IT'S COMPLEMENTARY
TO THE LINE OF QUESTIONING FROM
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ.
IT'S SORT OF THE FLIP SIDE OF
THE QUESTION WHICH IS THE ISSUE
OF LIKE WHAT -- HOW MUCH IS THE
CITY FOREGOING WITH AN
ORDINANCE LIKE THIS.
HOW MUCH IS THE CITY NOT
COLLECTING IN THESE FEES.
I THINK THAT'S A, FOR AN
AVERAGE PROJECT THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT THING TO POTENTIALLY
TAKE A LOOK AT IN CONSIDERING
WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS IN
EXCHANGE.
SO IF A PROJECT IS AS A RESULT
OF AN ORDINANCE LIKE THAT NOT
GOING TO BE CREDIT CONTRIBUTING
TO THE GENERAL FUND, YOU KNOW,
X NUMBER OF HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND WE ARE
GETTING A SINGLE UNIT OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EXCHANGE,
THAT'S I THINK SOMETHING THAT
WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR
NOT THAT IS A SUFFICIENT VALUE.
SO HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE
GRANULE LAYAWAY DETAIL ABOUT
HOW MUCH FUNDING THE CITY WOULD
FOREGO ON AN AVERAGE PROJECT
THAT WOULD BE QUALIFYING UNDER
THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD
BE SUPER HELPFUL.
>> OKAY.
SO WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF TWO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS
THAT HAVE RECENTLY COME BEFORE
THE COUNCIL AND BEEN APPROVED.
COMMONS WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED
LAST MONTH.
WE DON'T HAVE AN APPRAISAL OF
THE RIGHT OF WAY THERE.
BASED ON THE ASSESSED VALUE OF
THE PROPERTY THAT WAS GRANTED
TO BE VACATED.
WAS BETWEEN 400 AND $500,000
FOR THAT ALLEY AND WILLOW
CROSSING PROJECT WHICH WAS
APPROVED AT THE END OF 2019.
THEY HAVE DONE AN APPRAISAL AND
THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN THE
SAME BALLPARK.
SO CAN IMAGINE ONE PROJECT
EVERY TWO YEARS AND
APPROXIMATELY 400 TO $500,000
PER PROJECT.
>> THANKS.
SO ABOUT $500,000 AND IN THOSE
INSTANCES THEY -- THOSE -- THE
PERCENTAGE OF UNITS THAT ARE
AFFORDABLE IN THOSE PROJECTS
WERE 40%?
>> 100% OF THE UNITS IN BOTH OF
THOSE PROJECTS WERE AFFORDABLE.
>> OH, 100%.
GREAT.
THANK YOU.
>> THE GRANT STREET PROJECT IS
A BIGGER PROJECT THAT INCLUDES
THREE DIFFERENT SITES.
BUT THE MOUNT BAKER HOUSING
PROJECT IS 100% AFFORDABLE AND
THAT'S THE BLOCK WHERE THE
ALLEY IS BEING VACATED.
>> HOW DOES THAT, CHAIR
PEDERSEN MENTIONED THE MHA
REGULATORY STANDARDS FOR
EXPANDED DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY
IN EXCHANGE FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND THE
ABILITY TO BE EXEMPT FROM THOSE
FEES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT.
HOW DOES THAT VALUE TO BENEFIT
RATIO COMPARE TO -- FOR MHA
COMPARE TO 40% FOR A $500,000
PROJECT IN THIS INSTANCE?
>> I DO NOT KNOW.
I WILL TRY AND SEE IF WE CAN
FIGURE THAT OUT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE
QUESTIONS AND APPRECIATE
SPONSOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD
AND I THINK WE CAN -- I THINK
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SUPPORT
FOR THE SPIRIT OF THIS IT'S
JUST IF THERE ARE SOME DETAILS
THAT NEED TO BE FLESHED OUT A
LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE THERE
ARE NO LOOPHOLES.
WE DO VALUE THOSE STREET
VACATION FEES.
WE USE THOSE FOR VISIONIST ROW
PROJECTS AND OTHER THINGS.
BUT WE ALSO WANT THAT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS IS THE FUN PART OF THE JOB
IS MAKING THE POLICY CHOICE.
THE TRADEOFFS AND CONSIDERING
THOSE.
IT'LL BE TUESDAY AT FINANCE AND
HOUSING COMMITTEE WHERE THEY
WILL VOTE ON THIS.
WE'LL GET AMENDMENTS TO CENTRAL
STAFF THIS WEEK.
I DON'T THINK COUNCIL MEMBER
MOSQUEDA HAS JOINED US SO I
KNOW SHE'LL BE SPEAKING TO IT
AT LENGTH ON TUESDAY.
ALL RIGHT.
APPRECIATE IT.
ANY FINAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE
MOVE ON?
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LISH.
APPRECIATE IT.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
SHORT TITLE OF THE NEXT AGENDA
ITEM INTO THE RECORD?
>> RESOLUTION 32031.
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE 2021
UPGRADE TO THE GREEN/DUWAMISH
AND CENTRAL PUGET SOUND
WATERSHED OR WATER RESOURCE
INVENTORY AREA SALMON HABITAT
PLAN.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE INTRODUCTORY REMARK TO
THIS.
I'LL LET CENTRAL STAFF GO
FIRST.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD FOR HER LEADERSHIP
WORKING ON THIS ISSUE.
YOU KNOW AS WE KNOW THERE'S
SEVERAL ADVISORY BOARDS THAT WE
STAFF OURSELVES.
BOTH STAFF FROM THE DEPARTMENTS
AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS
SERVE ON THESE BOARDS.
TRANSPORTATION AND ALSO
ENVIRONMENTAL BOARDS, ET
CETERA.
THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
SO BRIAN GOODNIGHT.
LET US KNOW ABOUT THIS
RESOLUTION BEFORE WE TURN IT
OVER TO SEATTLE PUBLIC
UTILITIES.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
FOR THE RECORD, BRIAN GOODNIGHT
CENTRAL STAFF.
17 JURISDICTIONS THAT PARTNER
IN THE GREEN, DUWAMISH AND
CENTRAL PUGET SOUND WATER SHED.
THIS WOULD RATIFY THE 2021
UPDATE.
WHICH WAS RATIFIED BY COUNCIL
IN 2005.
AND THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF MY
REMARKS SINCE ANDREA AND MARTHA
AND MATT ARE HERE.
THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN
I DO.
>> YES, THANK YOU.
I THINK WE DO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE
FROM SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES
HERE.
APPRECIATE INTERIM DIRECTOR LEE
BEING HERE AS WELL AS HIS TEAM.
INTERIM DIRECTOR LEE.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO START US OFF.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR PEDERSEN
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'VE MET MOST OF YOU IN MY
CAPACITY AND IN SEPTEMBER I WAS
DEEPLY HONORED TO BE SELECTED
BY MAYOR DURKAN TO SERVE AS
INTERIM CEO.
JUST BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION, I
FIRST JOINED SPU IN 2006.
AND I WAS INVOLVED IN THE
NEGOTIATING THE CONSENT DECREE,
WHICH LED TO THE RAMP UP OF OUR
PROGRAM.
I RECENTLY REJOINED AFTER A
BRIEF STINT WITH BELLEVUE IN
2015 AS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR
THE DRAINAGE AND WASTE WATER
LINE BUSINESS.
I'M VERY HONORED TO BE HERE.
WITH ME TODAY IS MARTHA NEUMAN.
PART OF OUR RELATIONS TEAM AND
MATT GOEHRING FOR THE GREEN,
DUWAMISH RIVER WATERSHED.
LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN, I
WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD WHO IS CO-CHAIR
FOR HER WORK ON SALMON RECOVERY
OVER THESE MANY YEARS.
THIS RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU
RATIFIES THE HABITAT PLAN.
ALSO KNOWN AS WATER RESOURCES
RECOVERY AREA 9. THE HABITAT
PLAN IDENTIFIES AN ARRAY OF
RECOVERY STRATEGIES AND MORE
THAN 100 CAPITAL PROJECTS
DEVELOPED AMONG THE GOVERNMENT
JURISDICTIONS IN THE ENTIRE
BASIN.
THE OTHER CITY COUNCILS IN THIS
WATER SHED ARE APPROVING
SIMILAR RESOLUTIONS TO SUPPORT
THIS PLAN.
AND SO WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO
TURN IT OVER TO MARTHA AND MATT
WHO HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION
ABOUT THE ACTION WE'RE HOPING
THE COMMITTEE WILL TAKE THIS
MORNING.
THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING
US HERE TODAY.
I'M SHARING MY SCREEN.
OKAY.
CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY SLIDES?
>> NOT YET.
OKAY.
HANG ON.
I PRACTICED THIS THIS MORNING.
OKAY.
I DIDN'T SHARE CORRECTLY.
HANG ON.
SHARE.
>> YES.
BINGO.
OKAY, GREAT.
I'M MARTHA NEUMAN.
I'M HERE WITH MATT GOEHRING.
SO WE'LL GIVE A QUICK
PRESENTATION ON WHY WE'RE HERE
TODAY.
LITTLE BIT OF OVERVIEW ABOUT
THE SALMON RECOVERY WORK IN THE
GREEN/DUWAMISH AND A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE PLAN.
SO I THINK EVERYBODY HAS
COVERED THIS WELL.
THE RATIFICATION IS AN UPDATE
TO THE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN
2005.
THAT PLAN SERVES AS THE
BLUEPRINT FOR SALMON RECOVERY
IN THE GREEN/DUWAMISH AND AS
BRIAN SAID IT WILL BE UPDATED
BY ALL THE PARTNERS WHO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS WORK.
OKAY, QUICK CONTEXT ABOUT
RECOVERY.
SO THIS IS ABOUT SHINOOK
RECOVERY.
ORGANIZED BY VERY LARGE RIVER
BASINS.
SO THE PUGET SOUND BEING ONE.
WITHIN THAT THERE ARE THESE
WATER RESOURCE INVENTORY AREAS.
THE CITY PARTICIPANTS -- SO
WHY, HINOOK THE CITY
PARTICIPANTS IN THREE OF THESE.
OUR INTEREST THERE IS.
THE LAKE WASHINGTON CEDAR
SAMMAMISH.
THEN WRIA 9 WHICH IS THE GREEN-
DUWAMISH.
SO THIS IS KIND OF A BUSY
SLIDE.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT
HAND SIDE IS THE CHINOOK
SALMON, YOU KNOW, THE LONG
DECLINE STARTING IN THE LATE
1800s.
YOU CAN SEE THE LOW LEVELS OF
POPULATION WE HAVE BEEN
EXPERIENCING FOR QUITE SOME
TIME.
WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT HAND
SIDE IS THE LISTING AND THE
RECOVERY WORK.
IN 1999, CHINOOK SALMON WERE
LISTED AS THREATENED UNDER THE
FEDERAL ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT.
SHORTLY AFTER THAT THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT STARTED WORKING
TOGETHER WHICH I'LL COVER IN A
LITTLE BIT AND HAVE BEEN
WORKING TOGETHER SINCE THAT
TIME TILL NOW.
IN 2005 THE FIRST RECOVERY PLAN
WAS PUT TOGETHER FOR THE GREEN-
DUWAMISH.
THEN THAT PLAN AS WELL AS PLANS
FOR EACH OF THOSE OTHER BASINS
IN PUGET SOUND WERE ROLLED UP
INTO WHAT'S CALLED THE PUGET
SOUND RECOVERY PLAN FOR
CHINOOK.
THAT WAS APPROVED IN2007.
HERE WE ARE IN 2021 AND DOING
AN UPDATE TO THE PLAN FOR THE
GREEN-DUWAMISH.
QUICK SLIDE ABOUT THE NUMBERS
OF FISH WE SEE.
THIS IS A LITTLE BUSY HERE.
SO YOU SEE THESE DASH LINES
NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE.
THAT'S CALLED THE VIABLE SOUND
POPULATION GOAL.
THOSE ARE A VARIETY OF FACTORS
SET BY NOAA AND NATIONAL MARINE
FISHERY SERVICE THAT WOULD LEAD
TO A AVAILABLE CHINOOK
POPULATION.
THE GREEN LINE, THOSE ARE THE
NUMBER OF NATURAL RETURNING
SPAWNERS.
THOSE ARE THE NON-HATCHERY
FISH.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS ARE
LOW.
THEY'VE REMAINED LOW.
THEN THE BLUE LINE SHOWS ALL OF
THE RETURNING SPAWNERS COMING
BACK, INCLUDING THE HATCHERY
FISH.
AND MATT CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M
WRONG, BUT I THINK THESE
NUMBERS LOOK PRETTY SIMILAR TO
WHAT WE SEE IN PUGET SOUND.
WE JUST HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF
CHANGE OVER TIME SINCE THE
LISTING.
OKAY, SO A FEW FACTS ABOUT THE
GREEN-DUWAMISH WATERSHED.
THIS IS -- WE ARE THE MOST
URBAN WATERSHED IN PUGET SOUND.
LET'S SEE.
THERE ARE 17 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
WHO PARTICIPATE IN THIS EFFORT.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS TO WORK
TOGETHER IS IT REALLY, IT'S NOT
EACH JURISDICTION GOING IT
ALONE.
SEATTLE CAN'T SAY WE HAVE THIS
GREAT PROJECT BUT OTHER PEOPLE
DON'T.
EVERYBODY IS WORKING TOGETHER
TO AGREE ON WHAT ARE THE MOST
IMPORTANT ACTIONS TO TAKE FOR
SALMON RECOVERY.
SO WORKING TOGETHER IN
PARTNERSHIP.
HERE'S A SCUM OF THINGS WE HAVE
BIG THINGS THAT WE HAVE PLUSHED
OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.
OVER $200 MILLION IN
INVESTMENTS FROM LOCAL, STATE
AND FEDERAL MONIES.
SO LEVY REALIGNMENTS TO RESTORE
THE SHORELINE.
MARINE SHORELINE RESTORATION IS
VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR AREAS.
REVEGETATIONEST YOU WARE
SHALLOW HABITAT.
WE CONTRIBUTE -- WE'VE
CONTRIBUTED ALMOST $200 MILLION
SINCE 2001.
OUR ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO THAT
EFFORT IS ABOUT $120,000.
SO THE UPDATE, THE UPDATE YOU
CAN SEE HERE THE LIST OF WHAT'S
IN THERE.
UPDATES THE CURRENT STATUS.
INCORPORATES NEW AND UPDATED
SCIENCE.
UPDATED HABITAT GOALS.
REFINES THE RECOVERY
STRATEGIES.
THERE'S AN UPDATED CAPITAL
PROJECT LIST AND AN UPDATED
MONITORING AND ADAPTIVE
MANAGEMENT PLAN.
I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS
IS THIS PLAN HAS VALIDATED THE
UPDATE THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
THERE ARE MORE TWEAKS AND
MODIFICATIONS RATHER THAN
CHANGES.
THIS SLIDE IS AN EXAMPLE, TALKS
ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE
IMPORTANT IN THE PORTIONS OF
THE GREEN-DUWAMISH WATERSHED
THAT ARE WITHIN SEATTLE.
THESE AREAS IN THE DUWAMISH ARE
IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL FOR
JUVENILE FISH.
THOSE ARE THE SMALL KIND OF 3
TO 5-CENTIMETER FISH.
PROTECTING AND RESTORING AND
ENHANCING THE MARINE
SHORELINES.
SAME FOR ESTUARINE HABITAT.
IMPROVING SEDIMENT AND WATER
QUALITY.
REVEGETATING THE RIPARIAN
CORRIDORS.
THERE'S AN UPDATED CAPITAL
PROJECT LIST.
THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE
DOLLARS SHOULD BE FOCUSED.
YOU CAN SEE 39 NEAR SHORE
PROJECTS ARE INCLUDED AND 19
PROJECTS IN THE DUWAMISH.
SOME OF THESE ARE CITY
RESPONSIBILITIES.
INCLUDING CITY LIGHT, SPU AND
PARKS.
THE PROJECTS RANGE FROM THINGS
LIKE LOWMAN BEACH THAT YOU SEE
DOWN HERE ON THE LEFT WHICH IS
MATT INFORMS ME IS IN
CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AND HAMM
CREEK WHICH IS STILL A
CONCEPTUAL PROJECT.
PEOPLE STILL THINKING ABOUT
WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO
THERE.
SO BY RATIFYING THIS PLAN WE
ARE, THE CITY OF SEATTLE IS
AFFIRMING THAT THIS IS A
COLLABORATIVE WATERSHED
APPROACH.
THIS IS A MULTIBENEFIT
APPROACH.
NOT A STAND ALONE ACTION.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE
RECOVERY ACTIONS ALSO MIGHT DO
THINGS TO ALLEVIATE LOCAL
FLOODING.
RECOGNIZING THE PLAN IS THE
BEST AVAILABLE SOURCE OF
SCIENCE TOGETHER AND USING THE
PLAN TO DRIVE THE ACTIONS.
THAT IS MY SPEEDY PRESENTATION
AND MATT AND I WOULD BE HAPPY
TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE DO HAVE A QUESTION OR
COMMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> THANKS.
FIRST JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH
I'VE ENJOYED SERVING ON THIS
COMMITTEE.
SINCE I THINK 2016 NOW IT'S
JUST REALLY GREAT GROUP OF
FOLKS WORKING TOGETHER.
I FEEL WE'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE
TO DO SOME GREAT THINGS.
PERHAPS, PARTICULARLY AS IT
RELATES TO MARTHA MENTIONED THE
FOCUS ON INVESTMENTS THAT ARE
MULTIBENEFIT INVESTMENTS THAT
IN SUPPORTING SALMON HABITAT
RESTORATION WE CAN ALSO SUPPORT
THE GOALS AROUND MITIGATING
FLOOD RISKS AND I'M HAPPY TO
SEE THAT SORT OF OUR, THE
VALUES OF WHY WE'RE TRYING TO
DO THAT ARE NOW BEING
CONSIDERED BY OTHER REGIONAL
COMMITTEES LIKE OUR FLOOD
CONTROL DISTRICT AND NOW THEY
TOO HAVE BEGUN TO THINK MORE OF
THEIR INVESTMENTS WHEN FOCUSED
ON FLOOD CONTROL CAN ALSO BE --
HAVE AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT OF
PROTECTING SALMON HABITAT OR
RESTORING HABITAT.
THAT'S JUST BEEN A VERY
GRATIFYING SORT OF
COLLABORATION AND EVOLUTION OF
THE THINKING AROUND SIGNIFICANT
INVESTMENTS IN THE WATER SHED.
BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE IS
RELATED TO THE FREQUENCY OF THE
PLAN UPDATE AND I SHOULD
PROBABLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THIS.
IF I KNEW I'M NOT REMEMBERING
RIGHT NOW.
WHY DON'T WE UPDATE THE PLAN
MORE FREQUENTLY.
I THINK THIS IS THE LAST TIME
WE HAVE UPDATED THIS PLAN.
I THINK SOMETHING LIKE 15 YEARS
AGO.
SEEPS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A
BENEFIT IN A MORE FREQUENT
UPDATE.
IF IT WOULD ALLOW US TO BE ABLE
TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND BE
ABLE TO RESPOND IN A MORE REAL
TIME WAY TO CHANGING CONDITIONS
ASSOCIATED WITH CLIMATE.
>> MATT, YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT?
>> YEAH, I CAN TAKE THAT.
YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS
EXPECTED TO HAVE ABOUT A TEN
YEAR LIFE SPAN.
WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT, YOU
KNOW, WE ENDED UP NOT ACHIEVING
OR IMPLEMENTING THE NUMBER OF
PROJECTS THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY
HOPED AT THE PACE WE WOULD.
SO IN FACT MANY OF THE PROJECTS
STILL IN THE UPDATE WERE
CONCEPTUAL IDEAS IN THE 2005
PLAN.
THAT BEING SAID, WHAT HAS KIND
OF 10, 15 YEAR EXPECTED LIFE
SPAN, IT'S BEEN A LIVING
DOCUMENT.
SO ALL ALONG THERE'S BEEN
AMENDMENTS MADE BY THE
WATERSHED ECOSYSTEM FORUM WHICH
IS THE KIND OF GOVERNING BODY
WHERE SHOULD A NEW PROJECT COME
TO LIGHT THAT WAS NOT IN THE
PLAN THAT WE CAN UPDATE IT IF A
GIVEN POLICY IS SEEN TO BE
EITHER A NEW POLICY THAT WE
NEED TO PUT IN PLACE WE'VE ALSO
MADE CHANGES TO POLICIES AND A
GOOD ONE BEING TEMPERATURES.
ABOUT 2018 WE STARTED TO SEE
THAT WATER TEMPERATURE WAS
INCREASINGLY BECOMING A
SIGNIFICANT ISSUE WITH
TEMPERATURES OCCASIONALLY
GETTING INTO THE LETHAL BE
ABOVE THE LETHAL THRESHOLD.
THE COMMITTEE TOOK ACTION TO
UPDATE A POLICY RELATED TO THAT
AND FOCUS ADDITIONAL
INVESTMENTS ALONG WITH
REPAIRING AND REVEGETATION.
IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT.
WE GET MORE PROJECTS.
WE ADJUST POLICY AS WE MOVE.
THE REALITY IS GIVEN INVESTMENT
NEEDED TO ACTUALLY TURN THE
DIAL ON FISH RETURNS, MAKING
ANY LARGE SCALE PLAN CHANGES IN
A SHORTER TIME FRAME, WE JUST
AREN'T GOING TO SEE THE
RESPONSES.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY THE SCALE
IS MORE 10 TO 15 YEARS AND THAT
SCALE IS SEEN ACROSS PUGET
SOUND.
>> THANKS, MATT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL
MEMBER HERBOLD.
I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO IN TERMS OF THE CAPITAL
PROJECTS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE
SLIDE WITH THE GRAPH ON SLIDE
FOUR SHOWING THE DECLINE OF
HABITAT AND RECOVERY WILL
NECESSITATE THESE CAPITAL
PROJECTS.
ARE THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT
ARE MENTIONED HERE, ARE THEY
ALREADY IN THE BUDGET THAT WE
APPROVED OR WILL THEY BE PUT
FORWARD IN THE NEXT CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL APPROVES NEXT
FALL?
>> I THINK IT CAN BE A MIX.
THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOT JUST
SEATTLE'S PROJECTS.
THE PLAN IS THE CAPITAL
PROJECTS SOME OF THEM MIGHT
BELONG TO KING COUNTY.
THEY WOULD BELONG TO OTHER
JURISDICTIONS.
SOME OF THEM THEY CAN BE IN THE
CURRENT CIP.
THEY COULD BE IN THE, YOU KNOW,
MOVING FORWARD THROUGH A CIP
PROCESS.
SOME OF THEM NOT YET.
IF WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE -- SO
SOME COULD ALREADY IN THE CIP
FROM SPU OR FROM PARKS.
THE OTHER THING IS SOME OF THE
RECOVERY ACTIONS ARE POLICY
ORIENTED.
SO AROUND WATER QUALITY, NOT
JUST CAPITAL.
IT'S NOT A SUPER LINEAR ONE FOR
ONE KIND OF THING.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I WAS REFERRING TO SLIDE 9
CAPITAL PROJECTS IT SAYS NINE
SEATTLE PROJECTS FOR SEATTLE
AND CITY LIGHT PROJECTS.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET THAT
INFORMATION ON WHAT'S ALREADY
IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROGRAM THAT WE JUST APPROVED
AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED
GOING FORWARD.
ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE CHANGING
ADMINISTRATIONS.
THAT'LL BE REALLY HELPFUL TO
MAKE SURE WE KEEP THIS
COMMITMENT MOVING FORWARD SO WE
HAVE TANGIBLE PROJECTS FUNDED
TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE HABITAT
CONCERNS.
>> THAT'S GREAT.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT
SUPPORT AND WE CAN GET YOU THAT
INFORMATION.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.
WELL COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK
WE'RE -- IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY
FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS
RESOLUTION I WOULD MOVE TO VOTE
ON RATIFYING THIS UPDATE TO THE
PLAN.
>> --
>> I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANTED TO BEFORE WE VOTE
REALLY THANK BOTH MARTHA FOR
STAFFING ME ON THIS BODY AND
ALSO THANK MATT FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP.
REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH BOTH
OF THEM.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER, SERVING
HAS BEEN QUITE GRATIFYING.
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TO
REALLY EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION
TO MARTHA AND MATT.
SO REALLY WANTED TO DO SO.
THANK YOU.
>> NICE.
THANK YOU.
>> I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THIS
RESOLUTION 32031 ITEM 7 ON OUR
AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND BEEN.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE
RESOLUTION.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> SORRY.
ONE OTHER THING TOO.
I SHOULD HAVE NOTED THIS
EARLIER.
THERE IS A MENTION IN THE PLAN
FOR THE STEWARDSHIP POSITION.
I THINK THE LANGUAGE MIGHT BE A
LITTLE OUT OF DATE THERE
BECAUSE IT REFERS I BELIEVE TO
EXPLORING FUNDING FOR IT AND I
THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD
OF THE STAGE OF JUST EXPLORING
FUNDING AND WE'VE GOTTEN I
BELIEVE A FIRM AGREEMENT WITH
THE PARTIES TO CONTRIBUTE TO
THAT POSITION.
DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT
IS INCLUDED IN THE PLAN AND
AGAIN, THANK SEATTLE PUBLIC
UTILITIES FOR ADVOCATING FOR IT
AND THE PARTNERS FOR SUPPORTING
IT AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE
CLARIFICATION ON THE RECORD.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND.
ANY OTHER FINAL COMMENTS?
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> FIVE THAT FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED.
>> THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
THAT THE RESOLUTION PASS WILL
BE SENT TO THE DECEMBER 6th
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU.
>> WILL THE CLERK READ THE
TITLE OF THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
>> AGENDA ITEM 8. COUNCIL BILL
120230.
AN ORDINANCE RELATE TOGETHER
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT, THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION AND THE SEATTLE
EPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
DECLARING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY
RIGHTS TO BE SURPLUS TO THE
NEEDS OF CITY LIGHT.
FOR PUBLIC HEARING, BRIEFING
AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU.
SO VERY PLEASED WE'RE BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD AS YOU MAY
RECALL THERE HAVE BEEN MANY
COUNCIL ACTIONS TO CLEAN UP THE
TITLE AND ACCESS TO FACILITATE
THE GEORGETOWN, THE SOUTH PARK
AND PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE TRAIL.
TODAY'S BILL'S FINAL ACTION
NEEDED FOR ALL THE INVOLVED
úDEPARTMENTS TO PROCEED WITH
THAT PROJECT.
THE PROJECT IS FUNDED BY PRIOR
PUBLIC ACTIONS AND IT'S REALLY
GRATIFYING TO SEE SEATTLE CITY
PUBLIC LIGHT, SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
ALL WORK TOGETHER TO BRING THIS
PROJECT FORWARD.
THE TWO UTILITIES INVOLVEMENT
INCLUDED THE DEDICATION OF A
DEAD END STREET.
THAT INCLUDES SIGNIFICANT
PUBLIC BENEFITS ALONG THE
TRAILS RIGHT AWAY INCLUDING A
NEW DOG PARK.
AND WE CAN DO THIS A COUPLE
DIFFERENT WAYS.
IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND
THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA I'LL GO
AHEAD AND OPEN AND CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
I JUST WANT TO CHECK ON THE
SPEAKERS HERE TO SEE IF ANYBODY
HAS SIGNED UP FOR THIS PUBLIC
HEARING.
I STILL WANT TO GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS OF OPENING AND CLOSING
THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF SEATTLE I.T.
CAN CONFIRM THEY'RE NOT SEEING
ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS EITHER.
>> LEGISLATIVE I.T.
SEES NO PUBLIC HEARING
REGISTRANTS.
>> THANK YOU.
OKAY.
COLLEAGUES, I'M GOING TO GO
THROUGH THE PROCESS HERE OF
OPENING AND CLOSING THIS PUBLIC
HEARING AS REQUIRED.
THE PUBLIC HEARING ON COUNCIL
BILL 120-0230 IS NOW OPEN.
HOWEVER THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS
SIGNED UP AND WE'VE CONFIRMED
THAT SO I AM NOW CLOSING THE
PUBLIC HEARING ON COUNCIL BILL
120230.
AND WE WILL HEAR FROM SEATTLE
CITY LIGHT AND THEN ASK ANY
QUESTIONS.
BUT FIRST BEFORE WE TURN IT
OVER TO GENERAL MANAGER SMITH,
WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
OUR CENTRAL STAFF ERIC
McCONAGHY IF YOU HAVE OPENING
REMARKS ON THIS ITEM.
>> ERIC McCONAGHY.
THANKSFOR ASKING.
I DON'T HAVE ANY REMARKS TO
ADD.
YOU COVERED ALL THE POINTS I
WOULD HAVE MADE.
ABSENT YOU GETTING IT.
THE COMMITTEE IS I'M SURE
FAMILIAR WITH IT.
THERE HAVE BEEN INTERESTING
PRESENTATIONS AND WE'RE ABOUT
TO HEAR THE WRAPUP.
LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELCOME TO OUR GENERAL MANAGER
CEO DEBRA SMITH.
>> HI, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
DEBRA SMITH.
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A BUNCH OF
US TODAY AND IN THE NEXT WEEK
OR SO AND WE'RE EXCITED TO MOVE
A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT
INITIATIVES FORWARD HERE AS WE
BRING THIS YEAR TO A CLOSE.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD
EITHER, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB AND
REALLY MOST FOLKS ARE PROBABLY
SAYING DIDN'T WE ALREADY DO
THIS AND THE ANSWER IS NO.
THIS IS THE EXCITING PART.
SO I'LL TURN IT OTHER TO STAFF
FOR A SHORT PRESENTATION AND
THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I THINK I'LL PROCEED THEN IF
YOU'RE READY FOR THAT.
SO THIS IS ABOUT TRANSFERRING A
PIECE OF OUR GEORGETOWN FLUME
PROPERTY TO PARKS AND TO SDOT.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO COUNCIL MEMBERS MIGHT BE
THINKING AS GENERAL MANAGER
SMITH SAID HAVEN'T WE DONE THIS
ALREADY.
THERE'S BEEN PREVIOUS
LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
YOU AUTHORIZED BASICALLY WHAT
AMOUNTS TO AN EASEMENT ON THE
PROPERTY.
YOU AUTHORIZED TEMPORARY
EASEMENT TO RESOLVE PIECE OF
BUILDING THAT'S FROM THE
AIRPORT THAT'S ENCROACHING ON
PROPERTY.
THEN YOU APPROVE, GAVE
TRADITIONAL APPROVAL FOR STREET
VACATION REQUESTS WHICH CREATES
THIS OBLIGATION FOR CITY LIGHT
TO MAKE PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR
STREET VACATIONS.
THAT WAS IN AUGUST.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO THIS IS THE FINAL COUNCIL
ACTION AND WHAT'S IT DO?
IT DECLARES THE PROPERTY
SURPLUS TO OUR NEEDS WHICH IS A
NECESSARY STEP.
WE'RE MAKING A MINOR CORRECTION
TO KING COUNTY'S TEMPORARY
EASEMENT.
WE NEED TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT
THERE.
IT TRANSFERS THE JURISDICTION
OF THE TWO PORTIONS OF THE
PROPERTY TO PARKS AND SDOT.
IT CHECKS THE BOX FOR ONE OF
THE MAJOR REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR,
WHAT YOU APPROVED OF STREET
VACATIONS.
THIS WILL BE A BIG PART OF THE
PUBLIC BENEFIT.
OUR FUNDING WITH THE OTHER
DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE THE OTHER
MAIN PART.
THEN THIS ALLOWS PARKS AND SDOT
TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH DESIGN
AND CONSTRUCT AND THAT'S
PROJECTED FOR CONSTRUCTION IN
MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR ON THIS
PROPERTY.
I THINK THAT'S IT.
NEXT SLIDE?
OH YEAH.
YES.
THERE'S JUST A REMINDER OF THE
LOCATION WE'RE AT THE NORTHWEST
CORNER OF BOEING FIELD.
IN BETWEEN MYRTLE AND EAST
MARGINAL WAY SOUTH IN THE
GEORGETOWN NEIGHBORHOOD.
NEXT PLEASE.
AND THOSE ARE THE TWO PARCELS.
THE SKINNY PART GOING TO SDOT
FOR THE TRAIL AND THE LARGER
PORTION GOING TO PARTS FOR THE
OFF LEASH AREA.
I THINK THAT'S IT.
NEXT, PLEASE.
OH.
THEN JUST TO REMIND YOU THIS IS
THE CONCEPTUAL VIEW OF WHAT'S
GOING TO BE DEVELOPED THERE ON
WHAT'S BASICALLY AN UNUSED
VACANT INDUSTRIAL LOT RIGHT
NOW.
NEXT PLEASE.
THAT'S IT.
WE'RE GLAD TO TAKE ANY
QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, IF IF I
MIGHT JUST TO COMMENT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE
COMMUNITY IS REALLY EXCITED
ABOUT.
I WANT TO SAY IT'S BEEN A REAL
PLEASURE.
STAFF HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB
WORKING TOGETHER.
I THINK SDOT PARKS, CITY LIGHT,
THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF
US.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST PARTS
THAT WILL BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED.
WE'RE JUST SO PLEASED THAT
DESPITE 2020 AND THE CHALLENGES
WE FACE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PULL
THIS TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT
TOGETHER WITH THE GEORGETOWN
STEAM PLANT WE'RE STARTING TO
MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN AN AREA
WHERE MAKING A DIFFERENCE
REALLY MATTERS.
HOW ABOUT THAT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS
ITEM.
>> THANK YOU.
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IT'S BEEN
FLAWLESS COLLABORATION AMONG
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
SO APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD
WORK TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND I
KNOW I'M SURE COUNCIL MEMBERS
MORALES AND HERBOLD ARE ALSO
EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE AND I
HOPE I CAN BRING MY DOG DOWN TO
THIS PARK WHEN IT'S DONE.
SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY
QUESTIONS?
WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS.
WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT NEXT
MEETING ON DECEMBER 15 BUT IF
THERE ARE NO FINAL QUESTIONS WE
CAN JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
ITEM.
ALL RIGHT.
I DO NOT SEE ANY QUESTIONS AT
THIS TIME.
SO WE WILL VOTE THIS OUT OF
COMMITTEE I IMAGINE ON
DECEMBER 15th.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR BEING
HERE FROM CITY LIGHT.
WE'VE GOT AN ITEM FOR YOU NEXT
AS WELL.
WILL THE CLERK READ THE SHORT
TITHE L OF THE NEXT AGO ITEM
INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGO ITEM 9. COUNCIL BILL
120233.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT DIRECTING
THE TRANSFER OF CERTAIN FUNDS
IN THE LIGHT FUND INTO THE RATE
STABILIZATION ACCOUNT IN 2021.
FOR BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THIS
ORDINANCE.
I THINK WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT IT
IT'LL BE OBVIOUS WHAT A GREAT
PROACTIVE JOB CITY LIGHT DID
HERE IN GETTING AHEAD OF THIS
AND PROTECTING RATE PAYERS TO
KEEP RATES AS AFFORDABLE AS
POSSIBLE.
I DO WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO OUR
CENTRAL STAFF ERIC McCONAGHY IF
YOU HAVE ANY OPENING REMARKS
ABOUT THIS.
>> THANK YOU.
YEAH.
JUST TO SAY VERY LIGHT
BACKGROUND BECAUSE I'M SURE
THAT CHRIS AND THE OTHER FOLKS
WILL GIVE A GREAT PRESENTATION.
THE KEY THINGS FOR FOLKS TO
UNDERSTAND.
THIS IS ABOUT THE RATE
STABILIZATION ACCOUNT.
IT WAS SET UP IN 2004.
IT'S IN MUNICIPAL CODE.
IT SERVES TO SMOOTH OUT
FLUCTUATIONS FOR REVENUES
COMING INTO THE CITY LIGHT FUND
FROM THE SALE OF POWER.
CITY LIGHT AS FOLKS I THINK
KNOW SELLS RETAIL POWER TO
FOLKS THAT RUN GAS STATIONS,
GROCERY STORES, PEOPLE AT HOME.
THEY ALSO SELL WHOLESALE POWER
TO OTHER UTILITIES, AND THOSE
REVENUES CAN GO UP OR DOWN
COMPARED TO WHAT'S PLANNED FOR.
THE RSA HOPES TO SMOOTH THAT
OUT.
THERE'S A STRUCTURE TO DO THAT
THAT'S IN THE CODE.
YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT PROPOSALS TO
MAKE ADJUSTMENTS THERE.
THE PRIMARY THING I THINK THE
REAL THING THAT BROUGHT THIS TO
COUNCIL TODAY IS PERMISSION FOR
THE UTILITY TO MAKE A TRANSFER
OF SOME FUNDS FROM THE LIGHT
FUND TO THE RSA BEFORE THE END
OF THE YEAR TO PREVENT A
SURCHARGE FROM BEING PUT ON
CUSTOMERS BILLS.
THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH
THE COUNCIL, UTILITY AND THE
MAYOR'S GOAL TO KEEP THINGS
STABLE FOR CUSTOMERS.
WITH THAT HOPEFULLY WITHOUT
STEALING TOO MUCH FIRE FROM THE
PRESENTERS I'LL BE DONE.
THANKS.
>> EXCELLENT SUMMARY.
WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO GENERAL
MANAGER OF SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
DEBRA SMITH.
>> THANKS AGAIN.
I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS SHORT AS
WELL.
I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND
APPRECIATE ERIC FOR HIS HELP IN
MAKING THIS HAPPEN AND BRINGING
THIS HOME.
I WANT TO APPRECIATE THE CITY
BUDGET OFFICE WHO WORKED WITH
US VERY CLOSELY IN DEVELOPING
THE CONCEPT AND I REALLY WANT
TO JUST INTRODUCE TO YOU KIRSTY
GRAINGER AND CHRIS RUFFINI.
WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL BE OPEN TO
THIS OPTION.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
AS ERIC MENTIONED, I THINK THE
ONE THING I WANT TO BE CLEAR
ABOUT IS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE
ACTION ON THIS PRIOR TO YEAR
END IN ORDER TO KEEP THE
SURCHARGE THERE TRIGGERING.
WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO
KIRSTY AND CHRIS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
I'LL BE DOING THE PRESENTATION
AND KIRSTY WILL KEEP ME IN LINE
IF I SAY ANYTHING INCORRECT.
NEXT SLIDE.
THE LEGISLATION PERTAINS TO THE
RATE STABILIZATION COUNT.
AS ERIC INDICATED EARLIER, THE
RSA IS A RESTRICTED CASH
RESERVE THAT CITY LIGHT USES TO
ENSURE WE HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE
TO FUND OUR OPERATIONS DESPITE
UNCERTAINTY IN THE WHOLESALE
POWER MARKET.
IF IT GETS DEPLETED MEANING WE
ARE NOT SELLING AS MUCH
WHOLESALE POWER AS EXPECTED,
AUTOMATIC RATE SURCHARGES COME
ON AND REFILL IT.
THOSE RULES ARE SET BY
ORDINANCE AND THAT IS AN SMC
214986 FOR ANYBODY WHO IS
INTERESTED IN THAT.
AS YOU MAY REMEMBER WE WERE IN
FRONT OF YOU EARLIER THIS YEAR
REGARDING THE RSA AND 21 AND 22
RATES.
WITH YOUR APPROVAL, CITY LIGHT
REPLACED A 3% RSA SURCHARGE
THAT WAS DUE TO ROLL OFF
EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH A 3%
RATE INCREASE RESULTING IN NO
CHANGE TO CUSTOMER BILLS IN
THIS 2021.
WE DID THIS TO OPEN SURE SOME
RATE STABILITY.
SO WE DIDN'T SEE A LARGE
INCREASE.
CUSTOMERS DIDN'T SEE A LARGE
INCREASE FOR 2022.
WE'LL COVER IT IN MORE DETAIL
IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
SINCE WE WERE HERE THERE HAVE
BEEN CHANGES TO THE FINANCIAL
PICTURE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
AS ERIC INDICATED THE
LEGISLATION PROPOSES TWO
AMENDMENTS TO THE RSA.
FIRST A CASH DEPOSIT FROM THE
OPERATING FUND INTO THE RSA TO
AVOID TRIGGERING A SURCHARGE.
SECONDLY, IT WOULD AUTHORIZE
CHANGES TO THE RULES THAT WOULD
MAKE IT MORE CUSTOMER FRIENDLY.
IF PASSED IT WILL ENABLE US TO
KEEP OUR PROMISE TO CUSTOMERS
WHICH IS THAT WE WOULDN'T RAISE
RATES IN 2021.
NEXT SLIDE.
ORIENTING YOU TO THE SLIDE, THE
BAR CHART SHOWS CITY LIGHT'S
REVENUES FROM SURPLUS POWER
SALES.
EVERYTHING ABOVE THE X AXIS IS
WHERE THE VALUE OF THE ENERGY
WE SELL IS GREATER THAN THE
COST OF THE ENERGY WE BUY.
UNDER NORMAL HYDRO CONDITIONS
CITY LIGHT PRODUCES MORE POWER
THAN WE NEED.
AND WE SELL THAT SURPLUS ON THE
WHOLESALE MARKET.
THIS EXTRA REVENUE HELPS KEEP
OUR RATES LOW.
YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW BARS ARE
POSITIVE.
BLUE BARS ARE THE ACTUALS AS
WELL AS OUR FORECAST FOR THE
REST OF THE YEAR.
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE BLUE BAR
WES HAD STRONG REVENUE JANUARY
THROUGH MARCH.
WHICH WAS WHEN WE LIFTED THAT
SRA SURCHARGE EARLIER.
FROM APRIL THROUGH AUGUST THE
REVENUE CAME IN WELL SHORT OF
OUR BUDGET.
THERE WERE TWO REASONS FOR
THIS.
THE FIRST 2021 HAS BEEN A
REALLY UNUSUAL WEATHER WEATHER
YEAR.
FOR CITY LIGHT THE DROUGHT
MEANT LOW HYDRO ELECTRIC
GENERATION.
THROUGH THE SUMMER CITY LIGHTS
IN THE MARKET RATHER THAN
SELLING WE WERE BUYING AT A
TIME WHEN THE REGION WAS IN
SHORT SUPPLY AND PRICES WERE
EXPENSIVE.
THE OTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTOR
IS KIND OF A GOOD NEWS BAD NEWS
THING.
BESIDES WEATHER OUR RETAIL
DEMAND THAT'S BEEN HIGHER THAN
WE PLANNED FOR.
THIS IS GOOD NEWS.
HIGHER DEMAND FOR ELECTRICITY
FROM OUR BUSINESSES AND
RESIDENTS IS AN INDICATOR OF
ECONOMIC RECOVERY.
IT HELPS CITY LIGHT'S BOTTOM
LINE WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS NEXT.
WE HAD LESS EMERGENCY AVAILABLE
TO SELL.
COMBINATION OF THESE TWO THINGS
MEANS THAT CITY LIGHT INDICATES
TO COME IN ABOUT $35 MILLION
SHORT ON OUR $60 MILLION BUDGET
FOR 2021 FOR WHOLESALE REVENUE.
TO MAKE UP FOR THIS SHORT FALL
THE RSA HAS BEEN DRAWN DOWN.
IT'S BEEN DRAWN DOWN PRETTY
QUICKLY.
EVEN THOUGH THE RSA WAS FULL AT
100 MILLION, BY THE END OF
SEPTEMBER IT'S DOWN TO 82
MILLION WHICH FOR THE OPERATING
RULES WOULD TRIGGER THE FIRST
1.5% SURCHARGE.
WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE
SURCHARGE IS NECESSARY WHICH IS
WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS
LEGISLATION TO YOU TODAY.
NEXT SLIDE WHILE THE WHOLESALE
REVENUE SCENARIO IS NOT GOOD,
OUR OVERALL PICTURE IS
EXCELLENT.
NEARLY $27 MILLION MORE THAN WE
PLANNED.
WE'VE HAD SOME FAVORABLE
PURCHASE POWER COSTS FROM OUR
BULK POWER SOURCES.
AND WE ALSO HAD SOME HELP FROM
LOW INTEREST RATES AND LONG
TERM DEBT REFINANCING WE DID
EARLIER THIS YEAR.
OUR BOTTOM LINE FINANCIAL
TARGET IS TO HAVE A DEBT
SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO OF 1.8
TIMES.
IN SHORT WHAT THIS MEANS IS
THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH OPERATING
CASH TO DEPOSIT SOME OF THAT --
SOME OF THOSE FUNDS BACK INTO
RSA.
SECTION NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION ALLOWS
CITY LIGHT.
SO LONG AS WE MAINTAIN A 1.85
TIMES DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE
RATIO.
THE LEGISLATION MODIFIES THE
RULES.
THIS LEGISLATION ACTUALLY
PROPOSES TO ALLOW CITY LIGHT TO
ONLY TRIGGER SURCHARGES TWICE A
YEAR WHEREAS CURRENTLY INTO THE
RULES AND OPERATION TODAY WE
COULD DO IT QUARTERLY.
SOMEONE COULD HAVE A RATE
CHANGE FOUR TIMES A YEAR.
WE'RE PROPOSING AT MOST TWO.
THIS LEGISLATION ALSO PROPOSES
FEWER SURCHARGE STEPS AND
LEAVES THOSE SURCHARGES IN
PLACE UNTIL THE RSA FULLY
REFILLS.
IN THE PAST A NEW SURCHARGE AND
INCREMENTAL SURCHARGE WOULD BE
TRIGGERED EVERY TIME WE'RE $10
MILLION WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT
WE WERE BEFORE.
THEY WOULD TRIGGER AT 90, 80,
70.
WE'RE PROPOSING THEY TRIGGER A
LITTLE LOWER AT A SLIGHTLY
HIGHER PERCENTAGE AND STAY ON
UNTIL THE RSA REFILLS.
REALLY DRIVING HOME THAT RATE
STABILITY.
WITH THIS LEGISLATION JUST WANT
TO SAY THE CASH TRANSFER IS
REACTIVE AND WE REALLY NEED TO
TAKE THAT ACTION IN 2021.
THE PROPOSED RULE AMENDMENTS
ARE REALLY PROACTIVE.
THEY REFLECT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED
OVER THE DECADE OF OBSERVING
THE RSA IN ACTION.
WE CAN MAKE THE RSA LESS
DYNAMIC AND STILL HAVE IT BE
EFFECTIVE.
EXCHANGES WILL PROVIDE CITY
LIGHT WITH FINANCIAL RESILIENCE
WE NEED TO KEEP OUR RATES LOW
AND SUSTAINABLE FOR YEARS TO
COME.
THAT'S THE END OF THIS
PRESENTATION AND HAPPY TO TAKE
ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T TALK TOO
FAST.
>> THIS WAS EXCELLENT.
THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
POWER POINT PRESENTATIONS OF
THE YEAR.
THIS IS WHY YOU TILLTIES ARE
EXCITING.
BECAUSE THEY WERE PROACTIVE.
THEY'RE LITERALLY SAVING HUBS
OF THOUSANDS OF RATE PAYERS
MONEY AND NOT ONLY JUST A ONE
TIME FIX FOR THIS CHALLENGE BUT
ALSO CHANGING THE BASELINE
LEGISLATION TO SMOOTH IT OUT.
TO LEARN FROM THE PAST DECADE
OF THE RSA IN ACTION.
I JUST WANT TO COMMEND
EVERYBODY AT CITY LIGHT
INVOLVED WITH THIS AND ALSO
CENTRAL STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD.
I DEFINITELY SUPPORT GETTING
THIS DONE THIS YEAR SO WE CAN
HAVE IT PUT INTO ACTION TO
BENEFIT RATE PAYERS.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS
ABOUT THIS RATE STABILIZATION
ORDINANCE?
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS
FORWARD.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE CITY
COMMITTEE PASSAGE OF COUNCIL
BILL 120233.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BILL BE
APPROVED FOR FORWARDING TO THE
FULL CITY COUNCIL.
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD COUNCIL MEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION WILL
BE SENT TO THE DECEMBER 6th
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
>> BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, I JUST
WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO
THANK COUNCIL.
BOTH FOR YOUR SUPPORT TODAY,
WHICH WE REALLY APPRECIATE AND
WE APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY
TO GO THROUGH THIS WITH YOU
CHAIR PEDERSEN AND COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS IN ADVANCE.
I REALLY WANT TO APPRECIATE THE
FACT THIS IS A MECHANISM THAT
COUNCIL HELPED ACEPHATE IN
PLACE ALL THESE YEARS AGO.
WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING RIGHT
NOW IS THE ABILITY TO USE IT
TRULY TO BENEFIT OUR CUSTOMERS,
WHICH WAS THE INTENT.
SO I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE
PAST COUNCILS WHO HELPED GET US
TO A PLACE WHERE WE COULD IN
FACT MITIGATE FOR THIS RATE
ACTION THROUGH USE OF THE FUNDS
TRANSFER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
WE PASSED IT.
I APPRECIATE -- WE'VE GOT ONE
MORE ITEM FOR YOU THAT'S VERY
IMPORTANT.
ITEM 10 ON OUR AGENDA.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
TITLE OF THE FINAL AGENDA ITEM
INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM 10.
RESOLUTION 32030.
A RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT
ACKNOWLEDGING AND APPROVING THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT'S
ADOPTION OF A BIENNIAL ENERGY
CON CONSERVATION TARGET FOR
2022-2023 AND TEN YEAR
CONSERVATION POTENTIAL.
FOR PUBLIC HEARING, BRIEFING,
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS RESOLUTION AS I UNDERSTAND
IT STATE LAW ADOPTED IN 2006
REQUIRES SEATTLE CITY LIGHT TO
ESTABLISH RENEW ENERGY AND
ENERGY EFFICIENT TARGETS BASED
ON AVAILABLE CONSERVATION
INFORMATION AND COST EFFECTIVE,
RELIABLE AND FEASIBLE.
THE UTILITY MUST REPORT BY
ENCORRALLY.
THIS WOULD APPROVE CITY LIGHT'S
TARGETS.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN AND
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I
WILL ALSO BE MAKING A MOTION TO
SUSPEND THE RULES SO WE CAN
VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION TODAY
TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
BECAUSE THERE IS A STATE
REQUIREMENT TO GET THIS MOVING.
I WANT TO CONFIRM THERE ARE NO
PUBLIC HEARING SPEAKERS FOR
THIS ITEM.
>> LEGISLATIVE I.T.
REPORTS NO PUBLIC HEARING
REGISTRANTS.
>> THANK YOU.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
FOR RESOLUTION 32030.
WE'VE CONFIRMED THERE ARE NO
PUBLIC HEARING SPEAKERS FOR
THIS RESOLUTION.
SO I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARING ON RESOLUTION.
AND NOW WE CAN HEAR FROM OUR
PRESENTERS AGAIN SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT IS HERE.
ERIC McCONAGHY, DO YOU HAVE ANY
OPENING REMARKS?
I WOULD WELCOME.
>> THANKS FOR RECOGNIZING ME.
I DON'T.
THE TITLE AND YOUR DESCRIPTION
COVER IT.
WE'LL SEE THIS NOW.
AS IT'S AN ON GOING REQUIREMENT
WE'LL BE BACK IN TWO YEARS FOR
AN UPDATE.
IT'S PART OF THE ON GOING WORK
THE UTILITY IN THIS
CONSERVATION.
RELATED TO THIS IN TERMS OF
CONSERVATION AND ENERGY.
THAT'S ANOTHER DAY.
FOR NOW THAT'S IT.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
GENERAL MANAGER SMITH.
WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE WHAT I'LL
CALL THE DREAM TEAM.
KALI AND JENNIFER KNOW THE
MATERIAL IN AND OUTSIDE.
THE ONE THING CRAIG SMITH OF
COURSE IS HERE WITH ME AS WELL.
I WANT TO CALL OUT ROBERT
CROMWELL.
ROBERT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
PINCH HITTERS.
HE'S CURRENTLY SERVING AS OUR
DIRECTOR IN CHARGE OF CUSTOMER
ENERGY SOLUTIONS WHICH IS WHY
HE'S HERE.
ROBERT IN THE PAST AS SOME
MIGHT RECALL LED OUR POWER
PLANNING TEAM.
HE LED CUSTOMER OPERATIONS.
HE'S A VERY WELL ROUNDED
UTILITY EXECUTIVE.
I THINK WHAT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT ABOUT THE WORK IS
WHILE SEATTLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A
LEADER IN THE INDUSTRY, SEATTLE
IS THE GRANDFATHER OF ENERGY
EFFICIENCY.
WHICH IS SOMETHING TO BE VERY
PROUD OF.
WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IS AS WE
MOVE INTO ELECTRIFY CASE, WE
MOVE INTO DEMAND RESPONSE.
WE MOVE INTO HOW DO WE USE
ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND SAVINGS
AS A WAY OF CREATING CAPACITY
VERSUS PURE ENERGY.
ROBERT'S HISTORY ON THE POWER
SIDE BRINGS THAT PERSPECTIVE
DIRECTLY TO CES.
WHAT IS A VERY CRITICAL TIME.
THAT'S NOT THE NATURE OF
TODAY'S CONVERSATION.
I WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO INTRODUCE HIM IN HIS NEW
ROLE AND HELP CREATE THAT
CONNECTION TO THE FUTURE.
AS WE TALK ABOUT UTILITY OF THE
FUTURE AND WE LOOK AT THE
FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE
BECOMING AVAILABLE BOTH THROUGH
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THROUGH THE
CONTINUING RESOLUTION, WE ARE
GOING TO SEE A LOT OF MONEY
BECOMING AVAILABLE FOR EXPANDED
TYPES OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND
ROBERT'S SMILING.
HE KNOWS THAT HE'S TASKED ME
WITH TRYING TO FIND THE
RESOURCES HE NEEDS TO DELIVER
THAT MONEY TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TURN IT
OVER TO THE TEAM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I'M JENNIFER FINNIGAN AND I'M
PRESENTING WITH KALI
HOLLENHORST.
THE 22-23 CONSERVATION TARGET.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO KALI AND I BELIEVE IN
PUTTING OUR ASK UP FRONT.
HERE IT IS.
THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY IS
TO SOAR YOUR APPROVAL OF CITY
LIGHT'S CONSERVATION TARGET FOR
2022 AND 23.
AS YOU HEARD, EVERY TWO YEARS
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT PRESENTS OUR
CONSERVATION TARGETS TO CITY
COUNCIL AND WE GAIN YOUR
APPROVAL.
THIS IS THE SEVENTH TIME WE
HAVE DONE THIS.
WAIT A SECOND, WHAT'S A
CONSERVATION TARGET?
A CONSERVATION TARGET IS THE
AMOUNT OF CONSERVATION THAT
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT WILL ACQUIRE
BY OFFERING REBATES, INCENTIVES
AND MARKET INTERVENTIONS.
THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF
CONSERVATION WE WILL ACQUIRE IN
A TWO YEAR AND TEN YEAR PERIOD.
SO OUR RECOMMENDED TARGET IS
FOR TWO YEARS IS 18.7 AVERAGE
MEGA WATTS.
AND THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO
23,000 HOMES THAT AVERAGE
ENERGY USE OF 23,000 SEATTLE
RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
THE RECOMMENDED TEN YEAR TARGET
IS 76.9.
INITIATIVE 937 PASSED IN 2006
REQUIRES GOVERNING BODIES LIKE
YOU TO APPROVE TARGETS EVERY
TWO YEARS.
SO BEFORE I GO ON TO THE NEXT
SLIDE THERE ARE A COUPLE NOTES.
OUR LATER SLIDES GO INTO MORE
DETAIL.
THIS IS JUST OUR ASK UP FRONT.
WE'LL BE EXPLAINING HOW WE GO
THE TO THESE NUMBERS IN A
LITTLE BIT.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY
BEFORE I GO ON TO THE NEXT
SLIDE IS THAT KALI AND I ARE
GOING TO USE THE TERMS
CONSERVATION AND ENERGY
EFFICIENCY INTERCHANGEABLY.
JUST KNOW THOSE MEAN THE SAME
THINGS IN THIS PRESENTATION.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO WE HAVE NINE SLIDES FOR YOU
AND WE HAVE THREE SECTIONS.
THE FIRST SECTION IS AN
INTRODUCTION TO CONSERVATION.
THIS IS WHY WE OFFER IT.
THIS IS WHAT WE OFFER AND THIS
IS A CONSERVATION AT CITY LIGHT
101.
THE SECOND SECTION IS THE
REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY.
THIS IS THE CONSERVATION TARGET
FOR 2022 AND 23.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU
TO APPROVE.
IN THIS SIXTH WE'LL BE
DISCUSSING HOW WE CALCULATED
THESE TARGETS, WHAT THIS
ENTAILS AND WHAT IT IS.
LASTLY, THE THIRD SECTION IS AN
EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT THE
TARGET MEANS FOR CITY LIGHT.
SO I'M NOW GOING TO HAND THE
MICROPHONE TO MY COLLEAGUE
KALI.
>> GREAT.
THANKS.
I THOUGHT I WOULD START OFF BY
GIVING SOME BACKGROUND ON THE
CONSERVATION AT SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT.
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT HAS A LONG
STEMMING COMMITMENT TO
CONSERVATION.
IT IS REALLY FOUNDATIONAL TO
HOW WE RUN BUT OUR UTILITY.
WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF
CONSERVATION AT SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT.
WE STARTED RUNNING OUR PROGRAMS
BACK IN 1977 AND THIS MAKES ONE
OF -- THIS MAKES US ONE OF THE
LONGEST RUNNING UTILITY
CONSERVATION PROGRAMS IN THE
COUNTRY.
WE OFFER SAVINGS ACROSS A
PORTFOLIO OF SERVICES AND
OFFERINGS THAT ARE OFFERED TO
ALL OF OUR CUSTOMER CLASSES.
CONSERVATION PROJECTS HAVE BEEN
STALLED IN RESIDENTIAL
COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL
FACILITIES THROUGHOUT OUR
SERVICE TERRITORY.
SO SEATTLE CITY LIGHT VIEWS
CONSERVATION AS A RESOURCE AND
WE VALUE CONSERVATION FOR
SEVERAL REASONS.
BUT INCLUDING BECAUSE IT'S A
LOW COST RESOURCE IT'S A LOW
RISK RESOURCE AND BECAUSE IT
HAS LOW ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS
BUT INCLUDING NO GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS.
AND SO BY PRIORITIZING THE
CONSERVATION WE HAVE
SUCCESSFULLY DEFERRED THE
ACQUISITION OF NEW RESOURCES.
AND CONSERVATION HELPSTOUS
MAINTAIN OUR STATUS.
WHICH WE ALL KNOW WILL BECOME
INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT IN THE
FUTURE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO WHAT IS A POTENTIAL
ASSESSMENT AND WHY DO WE DO
THEM?
A POTENTIAL ASSESSMENT IS A
YEAR LONG STUDY THAT IDENTIFIES
THE AMOUNT, THE TIMING AND COST
OF ENERGY, CONSERVATION WITHIN
THE SEATTLE CITY LIGHT SERVICE
TERRITORY ACROSS THE NEXT 20
YEARS.
IT IS ULTIMATELY USED TO INFORM
AND SET OUR CONSERVATION GOALS.
AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE.
REQUIRES THAT UTILITIES
IDENTIFY AND PURSUE ALL
AVAILABLE CONSERVATION THAT IS
COST EFFECTIVE AND THEN SET
YOUR TARGETS ON TO YOUR CYCLES.
THEN IN ADDITION THE CLEAN
ENERGY TRANSFORMATION ACT
COMMITS WASHINGTON TO SUPPLY OF
GREENHOUSE GAS FREE POWER BY 45
AND REQUIRES THAT UTILITIES SET
FOUR YEAR TARGETS FOR
CONSERVATION.
SO ALTHOUGH WE ARE REQUIRED BY
WASHINGTON STATE LAW TO DO
POTENTIAL ASSESSMENTS WE ALSO
USE THEM AS INPUTS TO OUR
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN, OUR
LOAD FORECAST AND ALSO IT HELPS
TO INFORM WHAT WE OFFER TO OUR
CUSTOMERS.
SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
GREAT.
THANKS.
SO JENNIFER SHOWED THESE
NUMBERS BEFORE BUT THIS TABLE
SHOWS THE TWO AND 10 YEAR
TARGETS WE ARE REQUIRED TO
SHARE FOR BY 37.
OUR TWO YEAR TARGET IS 18.7.
AVERAGE MEGA WATTS.
TEN YEAR TARGET IS 76.9.
THIS IS OUR SEVENTH POTENTIAL
ASSESSMENT, SO BEFORE I COMPARE
THESE NUMBERS TO WHAT I
PRESENTED TO YOU LAST TIME, I
THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO
REVIEW WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE
2020.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT
HAS CHANGED AND ARE MAKING
POTENTIALLY GO UP AND GO DOWN.
FIRST WE'RE SEEING LOWER
POTENTIAL IN CPA THAN COMPARED
TO THE PRIOR CPA.
OR ANOTHER WAY, THERE'S LESS
SAVINGS OUT THERE FOR US TO GO
AND GET.
SOME OF THE MAIN DRIVERS
INCLUDE OUR LONG HISTORY OF
CONSERVATION.
THE HUGE TRANSFORMATION IN THE
LIGHTING MARKET THAT WE'VE SEEN
ACROSS THE PAST 10 TO 15 YEARS
AND ALSO BECAUSE WE CAN CLAIM
SAVINGS JUST FOR THE SAVINGS
ABOVE CODE.
STRICTER CODES AND STANDARDS
ARE MAKING IT HARDER FOR US TO
GO AND GET SAVINGS.
THE SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE
ON THIS SLIDE IS IS OF THE
SAVINGS THAT REMAIN THEY TEND
TO BE MORE COSTLY BUT THEN THE
SAVINGS WE WERE SEEING IN THE
PRIOR CPA.
THE REASON IS MUCH OF THE LOW
HANGING FRUIT OR THE CHEAPER
SAVINGS LIKE THOSE ASSOCIATED
WITH LIGHTING HAS ALREADY BEEN
DONE OR IS CAPTURED THROUGH
CODES AND STANDARDS.
AND THEN THE LAST POINT IS THAT
THE WASHINGTON STATE LAW LAYS
OUT TWO METHODOLOGIES TO
IDENTIFY POTENTIAL AND THE
FIRST APPROACH WHICH COULD BE
USE THE IN THE LAST CPA IS DONE
AT A SLIGHTLY HIGHER LEVEL AND
IS LESS DETAILED THAN THE
SECOND APPROACH WHICH WE
SHIFTED TO IN THE CPA.
THE SECOND APPROACH VALUES
CONSERVATION WITHIN CITY
LIGHT'S INTEGRATED RESOURCE
PLAN.
SLIGHTLY MORE NUANCED MODEL AND
IS BETTER ABLE TO REFLECT THE
BENEFITS OF CONSERVATION.
WHAT WE SAW IS WITH THE SECOND
MODEL WE WERE SEEING HIGHER
AMOUNTS OF CONSERVATION THAN
WITH THE FIRST MODEL.
CAPTURE ALL OF THE BENEFITS OF
CONSERVATION.
WITH THIS CONTEXT LET'S COMPARE
THE RESULTS OF THIS CPA WITH
THE LAST CPA WE SHARED IN 2020.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS SLIDE IS LOOKING AT THE
TWO YEAR TARGETS OF THIS STUDY.
RIGHT HAND SIDE TO THE PREVIOUS
STUDY WE PRESENTED IN 2020.
THE TOTAL POTENTIAL HAS
DECREASED BY ABOUT 12% FOR
REASONS THAT I JUST DISCUSSED.
THE BREAK OUT BETWEEN THE
SECTORS IS ROUGHLY THE SAME SO
WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE
COMMERCIAL SAVINGS CONTINUE TO
BE THE MOST POTENTIAL.
SO WITH THAT I THINK I'M GOING
TO PASS THE MIC BACK TO
JENNIFER TO WRAP US UP AND TALK
ABOUT WHAT THESE RESULTS MEAN
FOR US GOING FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU.
SO WE JUST HEARD THAT SEATTLE
CITY LIGHT IS RECOMMENDING A
TWO YEAR CONSERVATION TARGET OF
18.7 AVERAGE MEGA WALLETS AND
AT THE VERY BEGINNING WE SAW
DEBRA SAY THAT CONSERVATION AT
CITY LIGHT WE ARE A
GRANDFATHER.
WE HAVE A LONG, STRONG HISTORY
OF CONSERVATION AT CITY LIGHT.
OUR COMMITMENT TO CONSERVATION
REMAINS STRONG.
WEIR CONTINUE TO DELIVER
PROGRAMS.
ENERGY EFFICIENCY AS A SERVICE.
OFFERINGS FOR SMALL BUSINESS.
BUT THE WORLD IS CHANGING.
AND WE'RE CHANGING TOO.
SO THAT MEANS IN THE FUTURE WE
WILL BE INCREASINGLY OFFERING
CONSERVATION PROGRAMS AND
INCENTIVES THAT ARE TARGETED
SEASONALLY.
IN EARLIER PRESENTATIONS YOU
SAW CHRIS TALK ABOUT HOW WE HAD
TO PAY MORE FOR ENERGY IN
SUMMER AND WINTER.
THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN
OFFER TARGETED I INCENTIVES IN
DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND IN
JULY AND AUGUST.
WE WILL ALSO BE OFFERING
TARGETED INCENTIVES
GEOGRAPHICALLY TOO.
PARTICULARLY TO THOSE
COMMUNITIES AND AREAS THAT
HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE AS OFTEN.
WE'LL ALSO BE BUNDLING
CONSERVATION WITH DEMAND
RESPONSE AND ELECTRIFY CASE.
THE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON
CAPACITY EARLY ON.
A WAY OF TALKING ABOUT THAT
WHAT DEMAND RESPONSE IS IS WE
CAN OFFER INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE
TO TURN DOWN THEIR THERMOSTATS
AN THEIR HOT WATER HEATERS WHEN
THE GRID IS IN BIG NEED.
ESSENTIALLY THERE'S A WAY FOR
US TO BE OFFERING INCENTIVES
CALLED DEMAND RESPONSE AT THOSE
TIMES AND LUMP THOSE TOGETHER
WITH ENERGY EFFICIENCY
INCENTIVES.
WE CAN PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR
THOSE SMART THERMOSTATS AND
SMART WATER HEATERS.
OF COURSE WE WILL ALSO BE
DEVELOPING CUSTOMER TOOLS TO
MANAGE ENERGY USE.
YOU'VE HEARD A LOT IN THE PAST
ABOUT ADVANCE METERING
INFRASTRUCTURE, AMI OR SMART
METERS.
WE'RE COLLECTING A LOT OF DATA
ABOUT HOW CUSTOMERS USE THEIR
ENERGY.
WE ARE DEVELOPING TOOLS THAT
ENABLE AND EDUCATE CUSTOMERS
AND THEIR ENERGY USE AND HOW
THEY CAN BEST MAKE THE MOST OF
IT BY SAVING MONEY AND USING
ENERGY AT TIMES THAT ARE MOST
BENEFICIAL TO THEM AND THE
GRID.
AND LASTLY, BUT NOT LEASTLY,
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO END OUR
NOTE ON.
IS THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO
CUSTOMER AND COMMUNITY VOICES.
ESPECIALLY AS WE DEFINE AND
REFINE OUR PROGRAMS.
WE ARE A PUBLIC UTILITY AND
WE'RE FOCUSED ON OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR MISSION IS TO PARTNER WITH
CUSTOMERS TO MEET THEIR ENERGY
NEEDS.
THAT MEANS IMPROVING CUSTOMER
EXPERIENCE BY TALKING WITH
COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WE DESIGN
AND REFINE OUR PROGRAMS.
THANK YOU AND WE'D LOVE TO
ENTERTAIN YOUR QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
PRESENTATION.
THANKS FOR EXPLAINING.
APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY IN
EXPLAINING THE TARGETS TRENDING
DOWN BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE LOW
HANGING FRUIT THERE.
WANT TO SEE IF COLLEAGUES HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS FOR SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT ON THIS RESOLUTION.
YES, GENERAL MANAGER SMITH.
GO AHEAD.
>> THANKS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE MORE
COMMENT AND I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE SOMETHING REALLY
BIG THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK.
THAT PROBABLY ISN'T ON YOUR
RADAR AND CONNECT IT TO THIS
WORK.
LAST WEEKEND OVER THANKSGIVING
WEEKEND SEATTLE I.T., SEATTLE
CITY LIGHT AND SEATTLE PUBLIC
UTILITIES WORKED ALL WEEKEND TO
COMPLETE AN UPGRADE TO OUR
CUSTOMER CARE AND BILLING
SYSTEM AND WHAT WE CALL OUR
METERED OUT OF MANAGEMENT
SYSTEM WHICH NOW HAS A
DIFFERENT ACRONYM BECAUSE IT'S
IN THE CLOUD AND THAT WAS THE
BIG CHANGE.
THAT IS THE TWO FIRST
COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE CALL
FUSION.
THE THIRD WHICH WILL HAPPEN IN
Q 1, END OF Q 1 BEGINNING OF Q
2 OF 2022 IS TO COMPLETE THE
INTEGRATION OF SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT'S AMI SYSTEM TO THE CCB
SYSTEM.
SO THIS WAS A HUGE PROJECT THAT
WAS REALLY HARD TO GET OVER THE
FINISH LINE.
IN THE END THE CONVERSION OF
THE FLAWLESS.
MANY FOLKS SAID IT WAS THE BEST
LARGE SYSTEM CONVERSION THE
CITY'S DONE IN A LONG TIME.
KUDOS TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN
THAT.
THAT'S RELEVANT HERE BECAUSE TO
JENNIFER'S POINT WHAT THAT'S
GOING TO DO FOR US WHEN WE GET
TO NEXT SPRING IS WE'LL HAVE
THE ABILITY TO OFFER THOSE TIME
OF DAY PRICES.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I TALKED
ABOUT THIS WITH COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD
AND OTHERS.
WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE THREE
YEARS AGO.
WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE VERY
SOON, PROBABLY JANUARY 1 OF
2023 WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO
OFFER NEW PRICING MODELS THAT
PROVIDE THE KINDS OF INCENTIVES
THAT JENNIFER WAS JUST TALKING
ABOUT.
I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF
WHAT HAPPENED OVER THANKSGIVING
WEEKEND AND LET YOU KNOW HOW
THAT CONNECTS TO THIS, AGAIN, A
LOT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
ABOUT UTILITY NEXT 2.0 AND HOW
WE BECOME A UTILITY OF THE
FUTURE.
THIS IS A BIG PIECE OF IT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING
THAT.
THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO WORKED
ON THAT.
APPRECIATE THAT.
COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT
THIS RESOLUTION ON THE
CONSERVATION TARGETS?
BECAUSE THIS IS A RESOLUTION IT
HAPPENS EVERY TWO YEARS AND
IT'S A STATEMENT REQUIREMENT.
WE ARE HERE AT THE END OF THE
YEAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO -- I KNOW CITY
LIGHT WOULD LIKE US TO PASS IT
OUT OF COMMITTEE TODAY.
BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING
THAT REQUIRES SUSPENSION OF OUR
RULES.
PUBLIC HEARING LEGISLATION.
SO IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION,
COLLEAGUES, WE WOULD VOTE ON
THIS LEGISLATION THE SAME DAY.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SUSPEND THE
RULES.
OKAY.
HEARING NO OBJECTION THIS COULD
BE SILL RULE WAS SUSPENDED AND
THE COMMITTEE WILL PROCEED TO A
VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION.
I NOW MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION
32030.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL?
>> GONZALEZ.
>> AYE.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MORALES.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION WILL
BE SENT TO THE DECEMBER 6th
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
OKAY.
GENERAL MANAGER SMITH, YOU HAVE
YOUR HAND UP.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
>> I FORGOT TO TAKE IT DOWN.
THANK YOU.
>> SURE.
>> THIS CONCLUDES THE DECEMBER
1, 2021 MEETING OF THE
COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE PLANS TO MEET
AGAIN ON DECEMBER 15.
OUR AGENDA AT THAT TIME WILL BE
SHORTER.
THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING AND WE
ARE ADJOURNED.
>> THANK YOU.