REPRESENTS A NET CHANGE. THIS
PROPOSED BUDGET ACTUALLY ADDS
SIX FTE TO THE DEPARTMENT, AND S
3.5 FTE, WHICH ARE SUNSET
POSITIONS, OR 2.5 OF WHICH ARE G
ARE SUNSETTING, AND ONE IS BEING
BEING ADVOCATED AS IT'S NO LONGR
NEEDED. AND IS AN OFFSET FOR ONF
THE OTHER ADS. OF THE ADS FOR
SPD SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TE
TO EXCLUDE THE ANY OPA ADS FOR
THIS PRESENTATION HERE. WE DO
HAVE AN AD FOR A MENTAL HEALTH L
HEALTH PROFESSIONAL THAT THE
CHIEF REFERENCED IN HIS OPENING,
A PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE
RELATIONAL POLICE SEEN, FOR THE
BADGE PROGRAM. A PUBLIC DISCLOSE
POSITION,AND THEN TWO INCOMING
POSITIONS, WHICH ARE
TRANSFERRING FROM ANOTHER
DEPARTMENT. THE OTHER
APPROPRIATION HERE IS FOR THE
SCHOOL SAFETY TRAFFIC AND
PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENT FUND, WHH
FUND, WHICH PAYS FOR AUTOMATED
-- A PORTION OF OUR AUTOMATED
TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM.
NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT. FIRST UPE
UP, THESE TWO CHANGE REQUESTS
ARE FOUNDATIONAL TO OUR PROPOSED
PROPOSED BUDGET. THEY REDUCE OUR
OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET BY $28.N
$28.4 MILLION FROM OUR BASELINE.
BASELINE LEVEL. THE FIRST ITEM
SATISFIES OUR 3% CUT TARGET TO
ADDRESS THE CITY'S PROJECTED
REVENUE SHORTFALL. THE SECOND
ITEM HERE REDUCES OUR BUDGET,
SPECIFICALLY VACANT SWORN
POSITIONS, TO OFFSET THE COST OF
OF NUMBER OF ADS THAT WE'RE GOIG
TO DISCUSS FURTHER IN THE PRESE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. LOOKS LIKE
THERE'S A QUESTION.
>> YEAH, THANK YOU. LET'S GO
AHEAD AND HAVE COUNCILMEMBER --
>> JUST SUPERQUICK, A BASELINE R
ME. THAT LAST, LAST POINT ON THE
THE PREVIOUS SLIDE ABOUT THE
VACANT POSITIONS, IS, IS THAT --
-- ARE THOSE THE POSITIONS THAT
ARE COLLOQUIALLY REFERRED TO AS
GHOST POSITIONS?
>> GHOST, AS IN, POSITIONS THATE
THAT ARE UNFILLED?
>> THAT ARE, THAT ARE UNFILLED,
UNFUNDED BUT ARE USED AS A
BASELINE FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S
PROPOSED BUDGET, AS I UNDERSTAND
UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATION WAS
LAST YEAR.
>> YEAH. SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
AUTHORIZED POSITIONS, OUR
BASELINE IS HELD ON THE NUMBER
OF AUTHORIZED POSITIONS, AND
FROM THERE, WE MAKE INCREMENTAL
CHANGES TO ACCOUNT FOR THE
POSITIONS THAT ARE FILLED. SOME
DEPARTMENTS USE A VACANCY RATE
TO ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENCES N
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEIR FUNDED
, BUDGETED POSITIONS, AND
AUTHORIZED POSITIONS, BUT IN
THIS PARTICULAR CASE, GOING INTO
INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS, OUR
BASELINE BUDGET FUNDED
APPROXIMATELY 1317 SWORN POSITIS
SWORN POSITIONS, AND IN 2022, WE
WE WERE FUNDED FOR 1200 THROUGH
OUR INITIAL BUDGET PROCESS. WE
LOOKED AT HOW MANY POSITIONS
WERE FUNDED IN THE BASELINE
BUDGET, AND THEN BUILT THE
PROPOSED BUDGET AROUND THAT.
>> THANKS. DIRECTOR HANDY,
SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT?
>> YEAH,
I'LL ADD, I'LL ADD, WHEN GREG I,
HE'LL DO A MORE THOROUGH
BREAKDOWN OF THE STAFFING PLAN,
BUT I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT
ITEM NUMBER ONE HERE, THIS 11
MILLION REDUCTION FOR 80 FTE, IS
80 FTE, IS AN ONGOING REDUCTION,
, AND HAS NOT HAPPENED IN THE .
THIS IS SOMETHING COUNCIL HAS
POINTED TO IN THE LAST TWO
CYCLES OF THE BUDGET , WHERE
THERE WAS NOT AN ONGOING CUT TAN
FOR ANY PORTION OF THE UNFILLED
POSITIONS, AND SO ITEM NUMBER
ONE THERE IS, IS AN ONGOING CUT
THAT WE, THE POSITION STAYS AT
SPD, BUT WE WOULD NOT EXPECT
THAT IN 24, '25. ITEM NUMBER TWO
TWO HERE IS A, A RUNTIME USE OF
SALARY SAVINGS TO REINVEST IN
THE DEPARTMENT.
>> ALL RIGHT. I SAW COUNCILMAN D
COUNCILMAN HERBOLD -- AIC, AND
SO THIS IS THE, THE SLIDE THAT
FOLKS SHOULD LOOK AT IF THEY'REG
THAT THERE WERE 80 POSITIONS THT
WERE ACTUALLY REDUCED FROM THE
OVERALL BUDGET POSITIONS, NOT
FILLED, NOBODY'S GETTING CUT.
BUT THESE ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE
ARE TRADITIONALLY NOT PILLED.
THESE ARE ACTUALLY THE POSITIONS
POSITIONS THAT WE ARE HOPING TO
AGGREGATE IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIOS
THAT IT WOULD BE A MORE ACCURATE
OF THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT
CURRENTLY ARE WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT, AND THUS THE AMOUNT
OF MONEY NEEDED YEAR-OVER-YEAR.T
YEAR-OVER-YEAR. BUT ITEM NUMBER
TWO HERE STILL SHOWS THAT THERE
IS 120 POSITIONS THAT ARE ALSO
NOT BEING FILLED, BUT THAT THERE
THAT THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION THAT
THAT THOSE FTES WILL STAY AT THE
THE DEPARTMENT. THE FUNDING
STAYING AT THE DEPARTMENT, BUT
BEING USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE L,
THIS PROPOSED BY ANNUAL BUDGET.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES, THAT'S ALMOST PRECISELY.
PRECISELY CORRECT. THE ONLY
PIECE THAT I WILL UPDATE IS
THAT, TECHNICALLY, ALL 200
POCKETS STAY VACANT AT THE, AT
THE DEPARTMENT. IT IS THE FUNDIG
THE FUNDING FOR 80 OF THEM THAT
IS CUT IN AN ONGOING WAY, AND
THE SAVINGS FROM THE OTHER 120
IS A ONE TIME REINVESTMENT THIS
YEAR.
>> OKAY. SO NOT TECHNICALLY
AGGREGATION. BUT ACTUAL
TRANSPARENCY ON REDUCING THE FUG
THE FUNDING, HAVING THAT BE SEEN
AS A BUDGET ITEM, BEING MOVED
INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE PS
OF SOMETHING ELSE, AT LEAST AS
IT RELATES TO THE 80. OKAY. AND,
AND, AND GREG, I KNOW THAT THIS
WAS INFORMATION THAT WE WERE REY
TRYING TO LIFT UP OVER THE LAST
TWO YEARS TO GET GREATER
TRANSPARENCY ON WHERE THOSE
DOLLARS WERE GOING, AND WHETHERS
WERE BEING FILLED, AND WHETHER
THEY WERE REMAINING AT THE DEPAT
THE DEPARTMENT, JUST,
CHRONICALLY UNFILLED. SO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR WORK TO HELP
CONTINUE TO SURFACE THESE ISSUES
ISSUES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. DO
YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?
>> YEAH. ALL I DID WAS, WAS
BUGGED THE DEPARTMENT TO, TO BE
A LITTLE BIT MORE PENSION WITH
IT, AND DIRECTOR SOCHI AND
DIRECTOR TINGLEY HAVE, HAVE
REALLY, REALLY BEEN VERY
TRANSPARENT IN THIS, AND, AND
IT'S REALLY EASY TO FOLLOW AND
UNDERSTAND, AND THAT IS SO
FANTASTIC. I, I WOULD POINT OUT
THAT ON, ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE
THE 16.9 MILLION, A NUMBER OF
THESE ITEMS, AS DIRECTOR SO SHES
THROUGH HER, THROUGH HER PRESEN,
HER PRESENTATION, A NUMBER OF
THEM ARE ONGOING. SO WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT THIS BEING ONE TIME,
IT IS A ONE TIME USE OF SALARY
SAVINGS. BUT SPD WILL NEED, IN
THE FUTURE, TO FUND THESE, AND,
AND LIKELY WILL BE USING SALARYS
SALARY SAVINGS, YOU KNOW, IS
USING SALARY SAVINGS IN '24, AND
AND WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO YOU
SALARY SAVINGS ONGOING. AS, AS
IT HIRES OFFICERS IN THE FUTURE,
FUTURE, IF IT WERE TO ACTUALLY T
UP TO HIRE 120 OFFICERS, IT
WOULD NEED TO START ADDING MONEY
MONEY TO ITS BUDGET, BUT THAT IS
IS PROBABLY A LONG WAY OFF.
>> ALL RIGHT. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WITH
WITH THIS, I MIGHT BE
REITERATING SOME POINTS THAT,
THAT WE'VE MADE HERE, BUT JUST
SO IT'S VERY CLEAR FOR EVERYONE,
TO DETERMINE AVAILABLE VACANCYS
VACANCY SAVINGS FOR THE BUDGET
CHANGES WE JUST DISCUSSED, WE
USED OUR SWORN STAFFING MODEL TO
TO ESTIMATE OUR FUTURE STAFFINGS
STAFFING MODELS. IN ANY GIVEN
YEAR, SPD'S BUDGET IS MADE UP OF
OF 75% TO 80% PERSONNEL COSTS,
SO IT'S HUGELY IMPACTFUL AS
WE'RE DEVELOPING OUR BUDGET.
UNLIKE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WE DOT
APPLY A STANDARD VACANCY RATE.
INSTEAD, WE TRY TO ANTICIPATE
HIRES AND SEPARATIONS AND BUILD
THE BUDGET AROUND THAT TARGET.
2023 AND 2024 WERE NO DIFFERENT.
. THIS INFORMATION IS SHARED WIH
CENTRAL STAFF TO, TO VALIDATE
AND CONFIRM OUR ASSUMPTIONS IN
THE BUDGET. THE PROPOSED BUDGET
FOR '23 IS OVER 75% SALARY
BENEFIT COSTS. IN 2023, AS
CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THE PROPOSED
BUDGET SUPPORTS 1115 SWORN FTE,
WHICH IS DOWN FROM 1200 IN 2022.
. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE AND
GREEN CHART LINES IN THE TABLE
HERE, YOU WILL SEE HOW THE
FUNDED AND FILLED FTE ALIGNED IN
IN BOTH 2023 AND 2024. WE'VE
INCLUDED THE FULLY TRAINED
OFFICER COUNTS, AND THE OFFICERS
OFFICERS IN SERVICE COUNT AS
WELL, JUST FOR COMPARISON. NEXT.
NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT. THIS
TABLE SHOWS OUR HIRING
ASSUMPTIONS FOR 2023 AND 2024
ALONGSIDE HISTORIC ACTUALS. IN
BOTH YEARS, WE SET A SWORN
HIRING TARGET OF 120 NEW HIRES
AND 105 SEPARATIONS. AGAIN, THIS
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR THE
BUDGET, BECAUSE WE BUILD OUR
PROPOSED BUDGET AROUND THESE
ASSUMPTIONS USING OUR STAFFING .
STAFFING MODEL. WE,
HISTORICALLY, WE USED TO BASE TT
SEPARATION NUMBER ON AVERAGE
SEPARATIONS. WE NO LONGER DO
THAT FOR TWO REASONS. FIRST, OUR
OUR ANNUAL SEPARATIONS HAVE FLUD
DRAMATICALLY IN RECENT YEARS,
AND THE AVERAGE RATE OF SEPARATS
IS NO LONGER A RELIABLE METRIC.
SECOND, AS NOTED ON THE PREVIOU,
WE DO NOT USE A STANDARD VACANCY
VACANCY RATE LIKE OTHER
DEPARTMENTS. WHEN BUILDING OUR L
BUDGET. AND IF WE OVERESTIMATE R
SWORN SEPARATIONS, WE'RE AT RISK
RISK OF UNDERFUNDING OUR
PERSONNEL BUDGET IF OUR, IF OUR
PREDICTIONS ARE OFF AT ALL. AND,
YOU CAN SEE IN THIS CHART THAT
SEPARATIONS SPECIFICALLY HAVE
FLUCTUATED WIDELY IN THE LAST
FIVE TO 10 YEARS, AND WE ARE,
FROM 2020 AND 2021, OBVIOUSLY,
SEEING, WE SAW AN INCREDIBLE DEE
INCREDIBLE DEPARTURE OF OUR
SWORN PERSONNEL. IF WE ACHIEVE
OUR HIRING AND SEPARATION
TARGETS IN RISK 23 AND '24,
WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE AROUND
1090 FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS BY
THE END OF '24. UP FROM, UP FROM
1050 IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
THIS IS JUST AN INDICATION THAT
IT WILL TAKE TIME FOR US TO
RETURN TO PRE-PANDEMIC STAFFING.
STAFFING LEVELS.
>> A QUESTION, SOCCI. WE KNOW
THAT A NUMBER OF THESE OFFICERS
WHO ALSO LEFT THE FORCE IN 202,
2021, POSSIBLY EVEN THIS YEAR,
IS DO IT TO NOT WANTING TO
COMPLY WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH GE
HEALTH GUIDANCE FOR GETTING A
VACCINE. CAN YOU REMIND US HOW Y
OF THESE OFFICERS HAVE LEFT
BECAUSE OF THEIR INABILITY TO
GET A VACCINE, OR INABILITY TO
HAVE A DIFFERENT POSITION TO
ACCOMMODATE THEM?
>> COUNCILMEMBER, I --
COUNCILMEMBER, I CAN ANSWER THA.
THAT QUESTION. WE'VE ONLY HAD
FOUR ADMINISTRATIVE SEPARATIONS
FOR VACCINE MANDATE. SO AS MUCH
AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THERE'S A
WHOLE LOT MORE, THERE'S ACTUALLY
FOUR THAT HAVE BEEN ADMINISTRATY
SEPARATED.
>> SO WHEN WE HEAR NUMBERS OF,
LIKE, 80 TO 90 PEOPLE WHO REFUSE
REFUSE TO TO GET THEIR VACCINES
IN ONE YEAR ALONE, AND THEY'VE T
BEEN PUT ON HOLD, OR LEAVE, ANDS
AND THAT'S AFFECTING THE NUMBER
OF OFFICERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE
ON ACTUAL PATROL, THAT'S NOT
WHAT THIS NUMBER IS
REPRESENTING?
>> SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOE
THAT HAVE REQUESTED RELIGIOUS
AND MEDICAL EXEMPTIONS, AND
THERE -- PEOPLE ALSO HAVE LEFT,
OR NOT LEFT THE DEPARTMENT, BUT
THEY'RE ON LONG-TERM LEAVE FOR A
FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT REAS.
DIFFERENT REASONS. YOU HAVE
PEOPLE THAT ARE ON MATERNITY
LEAVE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE
ON MILITARY LEAVE THAT HAVE NOT
PROVIDED ANY INFORMATION ON
EXEMPTIONS, BECAUSE THEY COULD
BE DEPLOYED OUT TO ANOTHER COUN.
SO WE CAN'T GIVE YOU THE EXACT ,
BECAUSE THERE'S A VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT REASONS WHY SOMEBODY
MIGHT NOT HAVE ALREADY PROVIDED
SOME LEVEL OF AN EXEMPTION. WHAT
WHAT WE DO KNOW IS, IS THAT WE E
WE HAVE A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLT
ARE IN MEDICAL EXEMPTIONS,
PROBABLY UNDER 10, AND WE HAVE A
A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT
ARE UNDER RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS,Y
EXEMPTIONS, PROBABLY IN AROUND,
I BELIEVE, 25 THAT ARE
REQUESTING IT. THERE IS NO
ACCESS TO A NEW TYPE OF SHOT
THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM -- THAT
DOESN'T USE STEM CELLS, I BELIEE
STEM CELLS, AND THAT'S, SOME
PEOPLE HAVE RETURNED SINCE THAT,
THAT, SINCE THAT ACCESS TO THAT
NEW SHOT. BUT THOSE ARE THE KIND
THE KIND OF BASIC NUMBERS THAT E
LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
>> OKAY. LET'S CONTINUE.
>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEAS.
SLIDE, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. NOW TO
TO GET TO OUR ADS. THESE ITEMS E
ITEMS HERE REPRESENT INVESTMENTS
FOR RECRUITMENT RETENTION AND
OFFICER WELLNESS,
INTERRELATIONAL POLICING, ALSO
KNOWN AS HOUR BEFORE THE BADGE M
BADGE PROGRAM. AGAIN, THESE
ITEMS ARE FUNDED SWORN VACANCY S
VACANCY SAVINGS. AS GREG NOTED,
SOME OF THESE ARE ONE-TIME
INVESTMENTS, AND OTHERS ARE
ONGOING INVESTMENTS. HE IS CORRT
THAT WE WILL, FOR THE ONGOING
ITEMS, NEED TO CONTINUE TO USE
VACANCY SAVINGS, OR COMPLETELY
REDIRECT THAT VACANCY SAVING ON
AN ONGOING BASIS, OR IDENTIFY
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO FUND
THIS BUDGET ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
ONGOING BASIS. THERE ARE TWO FTE
FTE BEING ADDED, TWO SPD FOR THE
ITEMS, AS NOTED EARLIER. FOUR
POSSESSIONS ARE ALSO BEING ADDEO
THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCS
IN CONNECTION WITH THE RECRUITMT
RETENTION ITEM. NEXT SLIDE.
THESE ITEMS REPRESENT
OPERATIONAL INVESTMENTS FOR SPD.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES $N
FOR PLANNING EFFORTS RELATED TOE
REGION'S FIRST GUN FIRE
DETECTION SYSTEM WITH EVIDENCE
COLLECTION CAPABILITIES SUCH ASS
AS CAMERAS OR AUTOMATED LICENSE
PLATE READERS. TO ADDRESS
INCREASED GUN VIOLENCE. SECOND,
WE'RE REQUESTING 1.3 MILLION, A
MIX OF ONGOING AND ONE-TIME
FUNDING FOR POLICE EQUIPMENT TO
ADDRESS POLICY CHANGES AND COST
INCREASES FOR SOME OF OUR
STANDARD ISSUE EQUIPMENT. THIS
ALSO INCLUDES A $500,000 INVESTT
$500,000 INVESTMENT, ONE-TIME
INVESTMENT UPGRADE FOR NEEDED
UPGRADES AT OUR RANGE FACILITY.
AND LASTLY, THERE'S ONGOING
SUPPORT FROM MAINTENANCE OF OUR
DATA ANALYTICS PLATFORM,
TOTALING $3 MILLION HERE. NEXT .
NEXT SLIDE.
>> HEY, ANGELA, COULD I JUST
LIFT UP FOR THE COMMITTEE ON THE
ONGOING SUPPORT OF THE DATA AN?
DATA ANALYTICS? THAT COMPONENT
IS A, A SYSTEM THAT THE MONITORD
MONITOR AND THE DOJ HAVE FOUND
IN THE PAST TO BE CONSENT TO
ACCRUE RELATED, BECAUSE IT'S
ESSENTIALLY A WAREHOUSE LET'S
GATHERING ALL THE DATA THAT IS D
IS NEEDED FOR CONSENT TO CREE
REPORTING. AND, FOR THAT MATTER,
FOR THE AGENCY TO DO POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY REPORTING FOR OUR
OUR OWN AGENCIES. SO THAT, THAT,
THAT, I THINK, IS IMPORTANT TO
LIFT UP. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GREG.
GREG IS CORRECT THAT THOSE
INVESTMENTS IN OUR DATA
ANALYTICS PLATFORM SPECIFICALLY,
SPECIFICALLY, THAT SYSTEM, THE
INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THAT SM
IS USED NOT ONLY BY SPD, BUT
ALSO BY OUR ACCOUNTABILITY
PARTNERS. IT'S THE BASIS FOR OUR
PLANS FOR NOT ONLY COMPLIANCE
AND ONGOING SUSTAINMENT, BUT
ALSO FOR THE CONTINUATION OF OUR
OUR POLICE REFORM EFFORTS ONCE
THE CONSENT DECREE IS CLOSED
OUT. MANY OF YOU ALSO BENEFIT
FROM THE INFORMATION THAT'S
HOUSED IN THAT SYSTEM. IT IS THE
THE SOURCE OF DATA FOR OUR
PUBLIC DASHBOARDS, OUR USE OF
FORCE DATA, EVERYTHING, IDEALLY,
IDEALLY, WOULD BE HOUSED IN
THERE TO, TO ALLOW FOR QUICKER
ACCESS TO INFORMATION. A PORTION
PORTION OF THIS ITEM, YOU'LL SEE
SEE THAT THERE'S 3 MILLION
PLANNED FOR 2023, AND 1.5
MILLION PLANNED FOR 2024. SOME
OF THIS IS NECESSARY, ONGOING
MAINTENANCE AND SUSTAINMENT OF
THIS PLATFORM. THE, THIS
COUNCIL APPROVED SUPPORT FOR
MIGRATION OF INFORMATION INTO
THE DATA ANALYTICS PLATFORM IN
LAST YEAR'S BUDGET . WE NEED THT
NEED THAT, THE ONE-TIME
CONTRIBUTION TO COMPLETE THE
MIGRATION OF ALL OF THE
REMAINING INFORMATION THAT IS
NOT HOUSED IN THERE TO ALLOW FOR
MORE ADVANCED ANALYTICS. LOOKSE
LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE
WITH THEIR HANDS UP. OKAY. DO
YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT A LITTLE
LITTLE BIT, COUNCILMEMBER
MIRELES?
>> SURE, AND I'LL BE VERY BRIEF,
BRIEF, COUNCILMEMBER. BECKY.
YEAH, MY, THE DATA ANALYTICS
PLATFORM HAS REALLY BECOME A COE
OF HOW WE USE EVIDENCE-BASED
INFORMATION TO DRIVE THE
DEPARTMENT FORWARD, AND WHILE
GREG DOSS IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
THAT THIS IS A PRODUCT OF THE
CONSENT DECREE, AND IT IS RELATD
TO OUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE COT
DECREE, I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE
THE IMPRESSION THAT ANGELA MAY
HAVE COVERED THIS, THAT THIS IS
SOMEHOW LIMITED TO THAT EFFORT.,
REALLY, IS A BECOMING A
DEPARTMENTWIDE EFFORT, AND EVEN
AS WE HAVE SEPARATE
PRESENTATIONS ON A LOT OF THE OR
PRODUCTS WE HAVE GOING, DRAWING
FROM THIS DATA, I, I THINK YOU'L
BEGIN TO SEE HOW ROBUST THIS,
THIS TRULY IS, AND WHY THIS IS A
A CRITICAL SYSTEM FOR THE
DEPARTMENT FOR THAT CRITICAL SES
CRITICAL SELF-ANALYSIS THAT'S SO
SO IMPORTANT TO A LEARNING ORGA.
LEARNING ORGANIZATION. THE
OTHER, THE OTHER POINT ON THAT
IS THAT THE NEW STATE
REQUIREMENTS ON USE OF FORCE
REPORTING WILL BE COMING OUT
SHORTLY, IF THEY'VE NOT BEEN
RELEASED ALREADY. I DON'T HAVE
THE DATE ON THAT. BUT THE
INDICATIONS ARE THAT THE STATE
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING
GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY ROBUST,
AND WE WILL NEED THIS SYSTEM TOE
AT FULL CAPACITY IN ORDER TO
MEET THOSE OBLIGATIONS. MOVING
FORWARD. SO THANK YOU.
>> THANKS SO MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES ?
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ANGELA,
ANGELA, FOR REMINDING US. I
THOUGHT -- MY INITIAL QUESTION ,
DIDN'T WE DO THIS LAST YEAR? AND
AND WE DID, IN PART. SO, CAN YOU
CAN YOU JUST REMIND US HOW MUCHE
ALLOCATED LAST YEAR FOR THIS TEY
THIS TECHNOLOGY, AND MAYBE IF
YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT WHAT PIECE OF THAT
MIGRATION HAPPENED FOR WHATEVER
AMOUNT WE GAVE YOU LAST YEAR, AD
WHAT IS LEFT TO DO WITH THIS RE?
THIS REQUEST?
>> YES. SO LAST YEAR, THERE WAS
$3.76 MILLION FUNDED FOR TECHNOY
FOR TECHNOLOGY, BROADLY. MUCH OF
OF THAT WAS RELATED TO THE DATA
ANALYTICS MIGRATION. IT INCLUDED
FUNDING IN THERE FOR THE
RISK-MANAGEMENT DEMAND UPDATES
THAT ALLOWED US TO EVALUATE INFN
EVALUATE INFORMATION, HOUSE IN
THE DATA ANALYTICS PLATFORM, BUT
BUT ALSO INFORMATION THAT WAS HD
WAS HOUSED IN THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT'S COMPUTER-AIDED
DISPATCH DATA SET. THERE WAS --
LET'S SEE. I DON'T HAVE THE
INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME. IT
MAY BE BEST FOR ME TO FOLLOW UP
WITH THE ACTUAL BREAK OUT OF, OF
OF THE BUDGET THAT WAS ALLOCATED
ALLOCATED FOR THAT PORTION.
THERE WAS A PORTION FOR
MIGRATION, A PORTION FOR MOVINGE
DATA ANALYTICS PLATFORM, THE
DATA WAREHOUSE TO THE CLOUD,
THE, THE BULK OF THE, THE
FUNDING WAS ONE-TIME INVESTMENT
INTO THE TRANSITION, WHICH,
AGAIN, ALLOWS, ALLOWS FOR A MORT
DATA ANALYTICS AND INTELLIGENT S
INTELLIGENT PROCESSES FOR
DIFFERENT DATA WAREHOUSES TO
SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER, OR DATA
SETS TO SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER. I
WILL GLADLY LET BRIAN SPEAK UP
IF I'M MISSTATING ANYTHING HERE.
HERE. AND AS FAR AS THE
MIGRATION GOES, THE, THE
REMAINING INFORMATION THAT NEEDS
NEEDS TO BE MIGRATED INCLUDES
COMPLETE INFORMATION, LAWSUITS.
THERE'S A LONG LIST THAT WE'VE
PROVIDED TO GREG DOSS. I'M SURE
HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH
YOU ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE CD
IN THERE. THE -- YEAH. I'LL END
WITH THAT BEFORE I SAY SOMETHING
SOMETHING THAT'S INACCURATE.
>> OKAY. SO I, I DID SEE BRIAN H
HIS HAND UP, I SEE GREG AS WELL,
WELL, AND THAT I THINK
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD HAS A QUE.
A QUESTION. BRIAN, DID YOU HAVEG
TO ADD?
>> NO, COUNCILMEMBER. I WAS
ACTUALLY TAKING MY HAND DOWN,
BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.
>> OKAY, GREAT. GREG, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO ADD TO THAT?
>> SURE, REALLY QUICK. I WAS
ABLE TO PULL UP WHILE ANGELA WAS
WAS TALKING, OF THE $3.7 MILLION
MILLION THAT SHE REFERENCED, $1
MILLION WAS FOR THE
RE-ARCHITECTING OF THE DATA
ANALYTICS PLATFORM.
>> ANY FOLLOW-UP, COUNCILMEMBER?
OKAY. THANKS. COUNCILMEMBER HE?
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE BOTH
THE, THE USE OF THIS PLATFORM BY
BY THE DEPARTMENT. I APPRECIATE
THE, THAT IT'S A TOOL, ALSO, FOR
ALSO, FOR THE MONITOR UNDER THE
CONSENT DECREE THAT IS NOT IN
ANY WAY IN DISPUTE FROM ME. I
HAVE COME TO FONDLY REFERRED TO
THE DAP AS THE DAM THAT, BECAUSE
BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME
TIME WE TALK ABOUT IT, IT IS
RELATED TO SOMETHING THAT, WE,
WE HOPED IT WOULD DO, BUT IT
DOESN'T DO. MOST RECENTLY, THERE
THERE WAS THE ISSUE THAT WAS
RESOLVED, BUT THAT WAS FLAGGED E
FLAGGED BECAUSE OF A PROBLEM
WITH THE DATA INTEGRATION ON,
WITH, WITH THE DAP OF A VERY
LARGE NUMBER OF UNKNOWNS
REPORTED AS IT RELATES TO RACE
AND USE OF FORCE. THE CHIEF HAS
A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WHEN I
ASKED HOW WE WERE MOVING FORWARD
FORWARD ON RECOMMENDATIONS
ASSOCIATED WITH AN ADVISORY GROP
ADVISORY GROUP TO FOCUS ON THE
PROBLEMS RELATED WITH THE LACK,
COMPLETE LACK OF OVERSIGHT, OF
OFF-DUTY WORK, AS OPPOSED TO
OVERTIME WORK, OFF-DUTY WORK. I
WAS TOLD THAT THE D.A.P. WAS NOT
NOT DESIGNED TO ALLOW THE DEPAT
THE DEPARTMENT TO, TO HAVE THE T
THE OVERSIGHT OF THE NUMBER OF
HOURS THAT OFFICERS WERE WORKING
WORKING OVERTIME, AND THEN A
THIRD EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF IS
A NUMBER OF YEARS, YOU KNOW,
WE'RE, WE'RE REPORTING ON RACE
AS IT RELATES TO A LARGE NUMBERF
NUMBER OF POLICE CONTACTS, BUT I
I THINK IT WAS IN 2018, NOW
MAYOR HARRELL BEEN COUNCILMEMBE,
COUNCILMEMBER HAROLD, CHAMPION A
PIECE OF LEGISLATION FOCUSED ON
NONBIASED POLICING, AND ONE OFE
REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THERE BE
REPORTING ON TRAFFIC STOPS, ON,
ON THE RACIAL DEMOGRAPHICS OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE RECIPIENTS OF TIS
OF TICKETS AND STOPS FROM SPD,
AND WE WERE TOLD FOR SEVERAL
YEARS THAT THE D.A.P. DID NOT W
THAT, THAT INFORMATION TO BE, TO
TO BE REPORTED. SO I WOULD LOVEO
LOVE TO -- THOSE ARE JUST THREE
THINGS I CAN THINK OF OFF THE
TOP OF MY HEAD. I UNDERSTAND
THERE'S A LONG LIST THAT YOU PR.
YOU PROVIDED. GREG, FOR THE, THS
THE CAPABILITIES THAT THIS
SYSTEM DOES HAVE, AND WE'D JUST
LIKE TO HAVE SOME CONFIRMATION T
CONFIRMATION THAT, AS IT RELATES
RELATES TO THOSE, THOSE THREE
ITEMS, THAT, THAT THOSE ARE
CAPABILITIES FOR, FOR MOVING FO.
MOVING FORWARD.
>> BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING
TO ADD?
>> YES, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBE.
YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. SO,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, THE THREE
THREE THINGS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED
, PRIMARILY OUR ISSUES
ASSOCIATED WITH SOURCE SYSTEMS,
NOT WITH THE DATA ANALYTICS
PLATFORM ITSELF. THE TRAFFIC
TICKETS WERE HANDLED IN A
VARIETY OF WAYS, BOTH USING THE
SECTOR SYSTEM AND WITH SOME OF
THE MUNI COURT RECORDS. THOSE
JUST HADN'T YET BROUGHT INTO THE
THE S.W.A.T.. THE ISSUE WITH
THE UNKNOWNS AND THE USE OF
FORCE, THAT WAS AN IDENTIFIED PM
IDENTIFIED PROBLEM, AND, AS YOU
KNOW, WE RAPIDLY FIXED THAT, BEE
WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE DATA
ANALYTICS PLATFORM IS IT'S NOT
JUST A COMPUTER, NOT JUST A TOO,
IT'S ACTUALLY A SYSTEM THAT
INCLUDES DATA GOVERNANCE. SO
WHEN WE FIND ERRORS, WHEN WE
FIND THINGS THAT ARE LACKING,
WHENWE FIND, YOU KNOW, ANY
POTENTIAL PROBLEM WITH THIS, WE
HAVE AN AUTOMATED WAY OF, OF
PUTTING FORTH WHAT'S CALLED A DL
A DECAL, WHICH IS -- PUTS IT IN
TO THE QUEUE FOR REMEDIATION. SO
REMEDIATION. SO THE SYSTEM
ITSELF KICKS OUT ERRORS. WE HAVE
HAVE TEAMS THAT LOOK AT THAT,
AND WE ARE CONTINUALLY IMPROVING
IMPROVING THE SYSTEM TO ENSURE
THAT IT'S AS ACCURATE AS POSSIB.
AS POSSIBLE. WHAT IT'S DOING IS
INCREDIBLY COMPLEX, DRAWING IN
FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCE SYSTEMS
. THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH THE
WITH THE USE OF FORCE WAS CAUSED
CAUSED BY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
A NEW HR SYSTEM, AID D5, THAT
DIDN'T HAVE THE REGULARITY IN
THAT REPORTING THAT WE NEEDED.
SO WE FIXED IT. BUT YOU ARE
RIGHT, THAT IS A PROBLEM. YOU
KNOW, IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, AS
WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
D.A.P. , WE ARE GOING TO FIND
OTHER PROBLEMS, AND THEN WE AREG
TO REMEDIATE THEM, AND THAT'S
PART OF THE EVOLUTION OF THE
SYSTEM, GETTING IT BETTER AND
BETTER AND MORE REFINED. AND
HONESTLY, THERE'S NO DATA SYSTEM
DATA SYSTEM OUT THERE THAT IS
ACCURATE AND FUNCTIONS
INDEPENDENTLY OF THIS CONTINUAL
AUDIT THAT HAPPENS WITH THIS SY.
THIS SYSTEM. SO I THINK,
COUNCILMEMBER, WHAT YOU'RE
HIGHLIGHTING IS, IS EXACTLY WHAT
EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR H,
WHICH IS THE NEED TO CONTINUALLY
TO CONTINUALLY INVEST IN THE
SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN
ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND
PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF
TRANSPARENCY TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANKS. SO IT'S NOT A SYSTEM
THAT BECOMES OBSOLETE IT DOESN'T
IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT SORT OF,
LIKE, LIKE MANY TECHNOLOGIES,
THERE IS SORT OF A COMEDY, THE
CYNICAL WOULD SAY A PLANNED
OBSOLESCENCE, THAT, THEN, YOU
KNOW, REQUIRES A NEW INVESTMENT
AND A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM. THIS IS
A SYSTEM THAT CAN GROW AND CHANE
AND CHANGE AS OUR NEEDS GROW AN.
AND CHANGE. AND, AND THAT -- AND
AND THAT INCLUDES THE, THE CITY
MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, AS HAS
BEEN RECOMMENDED BY BOTH AN
INTERNAL AND AN EXTERNAL STAKEHR
GROUP IN THE PAST SHOULD THE
CITY MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF
DOING MORE MONITORING OF THE
NUMBER OF HOURS THAT PEOPLE WORK
OFF-DUTY. THE SYSTEM WILL BE
ABLE TO, TO TRACK THAT AS WELL.
>> ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMEMBER. AS
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME
COMPLICATIONS WITH STANDING UP A
A DATA SOURCE FOR ALL OF THAT
INFORMATION IN A WAY THAT THE
DATA ANALYTICS PLATFORM COULD
DIGEST IT, BUT ONCE THAT IS
FULLY REALIZED, THERE'S NO REASN
WHY THE PLATFORM COULDN'T INGEST
INGEST THAT INFORMATION RELATED
TO THE OTHER DATA AND PROVIDE A
LOT OF AWARENESS AND
TRANSPARENCY.
>> PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> LET'S KEEP GOING. WE ARE
RUNNING A LITTLE BEHIND PEER.
ALL RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO FOR
THESE ITEMS HERE, THESE, I WOULD
WOULD PUT ITEM NINE AND 10, BOTH
BOTH RELATE TO EITHER FULLY OR
IN PART TO OVERTIME. AS EVERYONE
EVERYONE KNOWS, WE ARE
EXPERIENCING A HISTORIC STAFFING
STAFFING CRISIS, AND OVERTIME,
HAS BEEN ONE OF MANY WAYS THAT E
THAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO MEET
SERVICE DEMANDS. IN THE CASE OF
ITEM NINE, THIS ITEM FUNDS
$150,000 FOR OUR HARBOR PATROL,
WHICH IS CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE,
ABOUT 40% TO 50% CAPACITY. THIS
WILL ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE
MARINE PATROLS DURING THE SUMMER
SUMMER VOTING SEASON. IT ALSO
SUPPORTS MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR
THE OPERATION. THEY HAVE A NUMBR
OF VESSELS THAT WERE PURCHASED
WITH GRANT FUNDS, AND WHO HAVE
TO MAINTAIN THESE IN A CASE-BY-E
A CASE-BY-CASE AD HOC BASIS. AND
AND SO THIS WOULD CREATE A
PERMANENT BUDGET FOR VESSEL
MAINTENANCE SPECIFICALLY. GREG,
DID YOU WANT TO --
>> I HAVE A QUESTION, WHEN
YOU'RE DONE.
>> OKAY. AND THEN FOR ITEM 10,
THIS IS A $2.6 MILLION
INVESTMENT. IT'S A PARTIAL
RESPIRATION OF OUR OVERTIME
BUDGET, OUR PRETEND THAT
OVERTIME BUDGET. THIS WILL BE
USED TO MEET STAFF IN AN
EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AND ALSO
SUPPORT SPECIAL EVENT OVERTIME
NEEDS AND VIOLENT CRIME NOW,
GREG, DO YOU WANT TO ASK THE
QUESTION?
>> I'LL JUST. A COUPLE
COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE EXPRESSED
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HARBOR
PATROL DEPLOYMENT, AND
SPECIFICALLY, IF IT WOULD BE
DEPLOYED ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN
HARBOR PATROL IS NORMALLY DEPLOD
NORMALLY DEPLOYED, SUCH THAT IT
WOULD RESPOND TO COMMUNITY EVENS
COMMUNITY EVENTS AND, IN OTHER
WORDS, PURCHASE COMMUNITY
EVENTS, COMMUNITY NEEDS. NORMAL
USE SITUATIONS ON THE WATER IN A
A PROPORTIONAL WAY, THE SAME WA,
IT NORMALLY WOULD, OR IS THERE
GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF A
SPECIAL DISTRIBUTION OF THESE HS
THESE HOURS IN A DIFFERENT WAY?
YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET THE SAME
KIND OF PROPORTIONAL SERVICE
THAT WOULD, WITHOUT THESE, JUST,
JUST, IN ADDITION. SO WONDERING
IF, IF YOU WERE THE CHIEF,
COULD, COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THAT.
>> I, I CAN FILL IN THAT, THAT .
AND THIS ALLOWS US, RIGHT NOW,
OUR STAFFING WOULD REALLY JUST
ALLOW FOR ONE BOAT, AND IF YOU
CAN IMAGINE, WE COULD ONLY GO UP
GO UP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
KNOTS ON THE WATERWAY BECAUSE OF
BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING THAT FITN
THE WATERWAY. TOO MUCH DRIBBLING
MUCH DRIBBLING OF THE WATER CAN
CREATE DAMAGE FOR THE RESIDENCEN
THE WATER. SO HAVING US TO BE AE
TO HAVE TWO BOATS OPERATIONAL
DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, IT
ALLOWS US -- NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE
WE HAVE SALTWATER, SO WE HAVE TO
TO GO THROUGH LOCKS FOR THE ONE
PART, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE LIKT
AND WASHINGTON. SO HAVING TWO
BOATS ALLOWS US TO SPREAD OUT
AND HAVE A BETTER DISTRIBUTION
THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE WATERWAYS
THAT WE PATROL. AND IT ALLOWS US
US TO GET QUICKER TO, TO
LOCATIONS, SO THAT WE WE'RE NOT
GOING THROUGH THE UW FOR EVERY
SINGLE TIME THAT WE GOT DEPLOYED
DEPLOYED OUT TO SAINT ANDREWS.
SO THIS JUST ALLOWS US MORE FLEX
MORE FLEX ABILITY, AND ALLOWS US
ALLOWS US TO ACTUALLY BE IN MORS
AT ONCE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> THANK YOU. THANKS, GREG, FOR
KIND OF TEEING THIS UP. SO THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT FOR ABOUT 2 1/2,
ALMOST THREE AND YEARS NOW, TRYG
TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW
MANY BOATS THERE ARE, HOW MANY
HARBOR PATROL OFFICERS THERE
ARE, WHERE THEY'RE DEPLOYED. MYG
MY UNDERSTANDING, THROUGH THESE
CONVERSATIONS, HAS BEEN THAT
THERE IS NO, NOBODY SORT OF --
I'M NOT A BOATER, I DON'T KNOW E
LANGUAGE, ANCHORED IN LAKE WASHN
LAKE WASHINGTON. AND SO, AS YOU,
CHIEF, IF THERE IS A DISTURBANCE
DISTURBANCE IN ANDREWS BAY, IT
REQUIRES SOMEBODY COMING FROM
LAKE UNION. AND BY THE TIME YOU
GET TO ANDREWS BAY, THE EVENT
MIGHT BE OVER. SO I'M, SO, FIRST
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT IF THAT IS SORT OF
STATUS QUO, THAT I'M
UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY.
AND THEN, IF, IF WHAT YOU'RE SAG
IS THAT THIS IS ADDING ONE MORET
MORE BOAT, WHERE WILL THAT BOAT
BE HOUSED?
>> SENIOR DEPUTY, DID YOU WANT
TO TAKE THAT?
>> YEAH, I'LL TAKE THIS A LITTLE
LITTLE BIT. SO THE, THE
IMPORTANCE OF THIS IS, TO BE
HONEST, IF WE HAD MORE FUNDING,
I WOULD'VE APPLIED IT TO THIS
PARTICULAR AREA. WE HAVE ONE OF
THE BEAUTIES OF, OF SEATTLE IS
ALL THE WATER THAT WE HAVE
AROUND US, AND WE HAVE SO MANY
MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THAT
WATER THROUGH, THROUGH POWER BOS
OR OTHER INDIVIDUAL, MORE INDIVD
MORE INDIVIDUALIZED CRAFTS. WE
DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE
ABLE TO MONITOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE
WASHINGTON AND LAKE UNION AND
ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND ALL OF
THOSE AREAS. EARLIER THIS YEAR,
WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO BE ABE
TO SAVE A FAMILY THAT HAD GOTTEN
GOTTEN CAUGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE
OF, OF I-90 IN LAKE WASHINGTON.
IT WAS REALLY, WE'VE REALLY BEEN
REALLY BEEN RELYING VERY HEAVILN
HEAVILY ON KIND OF BOATERS TO
BOAT OUR WATER SAFETY NEEDS. SO
-- THOSE AREAS THAT ALLOWED TO
BE IN MORE PLACES, TIMES OF SEAE
OR REALLY OUT ON THE WATER. THIS
THIS DOESN'T, THIS LITERALLY
ONLY FUNDS VERY PEAK TIME
PERIODS FOR US, SO THURSDAY
THROUGH SUNDAY. IT'S NOT A FULL,
, IT'S NOT A FULL COMPONENT OF
WHAT WOULD BE IDEAL, BUT IT JUSS
JUST HELPS TO MEET THE NEEDS FOR
FOR THOSE KIND OF RECREATIONAL,
OUR WEEKEND WARRIORS WHO ARE OUT
OUT ON THE WATER AND TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF, OF SOME OF
SEATTLE'S ATTRIBUTES. SO IT,
THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD
BE OUT DURING PEAK TIMES,
WATCHING THOSE PEOPLE DURING THE
WATER SAFETY EVENTS, JUST DURING
DURING THE SUMMER PERMAX, AND
DURING WHAT WE CONSIDER THE PEAK
THE PEAK HOURS OF THE SUMMER.
>>
>> THANK YOU, SENIOR DEPUTY
MAYOR. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS --
-- SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR CLARIF.
IT'S ONLY THE SUMMER AND ONLY
THE WEEKENDS IN THE SUMMER. WHAT
WHAT ABOUT -- DOES THIS MEAN THT
MEAN THAT, FOR THOSE THREE DAYSR
HOWEVER MANY HOURS OF THE WEEKE,
THERE WILL BE A BOAT IN LAKE
WASHINGTON, OR WILL THIS BOAT BE
BE IN LAKE UNION AND STILL HAVE
TO BE DEPLOYED?
>> SO --
>> I'LL ROLL THAT TO THE CHIEF,
BUT IT WOULD BE THURSDAY THROUGH
THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, SO IT D
GIVE US, BASICALLY, THAT FOR DAY
DAY WINDOW OF A LITTLE BIT OF AD
WEEKEND. SO THURSDAY THROUGH
SUNDAY, BETWEEN MEMORIAL DAY AND
AND LABOR DAY. SO JUST DURING TT
DURING THAT VERY KIND OF HIGH,
HIGH SEASON PEAK. CHIEF?
>> SO I'LL GIVE YOU -- I KNOW
IT'S NOT AN EASY, CLEAR-CUT
ANSWER, BUT THIS WOULD ALLOW US
TO BE ABLE TO DEPLOY ONE IN LAKE
LAKE UNION AND ONE IN LAKE
WASHINGTON. THE REASON WHY I WOT
GET A DEFINITIVE ANSWER IS
BECAUSE DEPENDING ON THE VENTS,
DEPENDING ON THINGS THAT ARE
GOING ON, WE WILL DEPLOY ACCORD.
DEPLOY ACCORDINGLY. SO IF
THERE'S STUFF THAT'S, YOU KNOW,
LIKE FOURTH OF JULY, WE'VE GOT
MORE STUFF IN LAKE UNION. AND
HAVE PROBABLY ALMOST ALL OF OUR
BOATS, YOU KNOW, FOCUS IN THAT
LAKE UNION AREA. IF THERE IS,
YOU KNOW, DURING THE FIRST DAY F
BOATING, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF
THAT'S GOING ON IN LAKE
WASHINGTON, WE'LL PROBABLY PUSHE
OF OUR BOATS INTO LAKE
WASHINGTON AND REALLY TRY TO
MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S GOOD,
ADEQUATE COVERAGE IN THOSE AREAS
AREAS WHERE THERE'S MORE BOATER.
MORE BOATERS. SO IT, I DON'T WAT
TO GIVE YOU 100% ANSWER TO SAY,
YES, IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW,
KNOW, ONE AND ONE. IT REALLY IS
GOING TO BE BASED ON WHAT WE'VET
GOING THAT THURSDAY THROUGH SUN,
WHAT KIND OF EVENTS THAT ARE
RUNNING. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT
DURING, LIKE, RIGHT IN MAY, WHEN
WHEN WE FIRST LAUNCH ON BOAT
SEASON, THAT LAKE WASHINGTON
CUT, OR RIGHT IN THAT CUT, WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DEPLOY
DEPLOY PEOPLE IN THAT AREA. WE
TRY TO PUT PEOPLE ON BOTH ENDS
SO WE CAN GET TO, TO LAKE UNION
AND LAKE WASHINGTON VERY, VERY
QUICKLY, SO.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW,T
WILL BE GOOD TO HAVE THE EXTRA
COVERAGE IN THE SUMMERTIME. WE
ALSO DID GET FUNDING FOR SOME AL
BUOYS IN THE PARKS DISTRICT, AND
AND THAT -- WE ADVOCATED FOR
THAT AFTER LOTS OF CONVERSATION
WITH THE RECREATIONAL BOATING
ASSOCIATION, WHO INDICATED TO US
THAT THE EXISTING BUOYS ARE TOO
TOO SMALL, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME
OF THE REALLY LARGE BOATS THAT
ARE STARTING TO COME INTO THE B.
WE CAN'T SEE THEM. THEY CAN'T
SEE THE SIGNAGE THAT INDICATES
THE NOT SPEED, AND THERE ARE
ALSO LOTS OF NEW BOATERSWHO
DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THE RULES
RULES WHO SORT OF BLOW THROUGH
THERE. AND SO THE REQUEST MADE
TO OUR OFFICE WAS TO AT LEAST
TRY TO GET, YOU KNOW, BETTER SIE
BETTER SIGNAGE AND BIGGER BUOYS
OUT THERE SO PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAE
SUPPOSED TO BE SEEING. SO IF WE
ADD TO THAT YOUR ENFORCEMENT CAS
ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES, MAYBE
WE CAN SEE FEWER INCIDENTS.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. NO, I COULDN'T AGREE
MORE. THOSE SIGNAGE IS, HAVING A
A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST,
BECAUSE YOU ARE SEEING A LOT
BIGGER BOATS THAT ARE COMING,
ESPECIALLY DURING, YOU KNOW,
GOOD WEATHER. I MEAN, THERE'S
JUST, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF
BOATS OUT THERE, AND THOSE ARE
PRETTY SMALL, SO WE WANT TO MAKE
TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP PEOPLE'S
SPEED DOWN IN MAKE IT SAFER FOR
EVERYBODY.
>> THE LAST THING ELSE, CHAIR,
IF I MAY, IS I WENT OUT WITH
SOMEBODY FROM THE BOATING
ASSOCIATION ON A VERY LARGE BOAT
, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW BIG IT
WAS, AND HER COMMENT TO ME WAS,
MY BOAT IS TOO BIG TO GO THE NOD
NOT SPEED THAT IS, THAT IS REQUD
IS REQUIRED. AND SO I HAVE TO GO
GO A LITTLE BIT FASTER. AND MY
THOUGHT WAS, IF YOUR BOAT IS TOO
TOO BIG TO GO THE REQUIRED
SPEED, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T
BE ALLOWING SUCH BIG BOATS IN TE
BAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO
ABOUT THAT, BUT SOMETHING ELSE
TO TALK ABOUT LATER.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU. SO THE THING I'M
STRUGGLING WITH HERE, BECAUSE
THIS HAS COME UP IN THE PAST
DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME,
CHIEF, WHEN YOU REDEPLOYED
OFFICERS THAT WERE ASSIGNED TO
SPECIALTY UNITS TO GENERAL
PATROL, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU
YOU DID THAT, AND YOU HAVE TO
PRIORITIZE THE USE OF RESOURCEST
I ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS
ISSUE OF STAFFING HARBOR PATROL
WAS A FUNCTION OF, WAS A
FUNCTION OF NOT HAVING SUFFICIET
HAVING SUFFICIENT NUMBERS OF OFS
OF OFFICERS TO ALLOW YOU TO PRIE
TO PRIORITIZE DEPLOYMENT OF OFFS
OF OFFICERS TO THAT FUNCTION,
AND THAT IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A
MONEY PROBLEM, IT'S NOT A ISSUE
OF, OH, YOU PROVIDE MORE MONEY,
WE'LL BE ABLE TO ASSIGN MORE
OFFICERS TO THIS FUNCTION. AND ,
WE, WE CAN'T, THE COUNCIL CAN'T
MAKE DEPLOYMENT DECISIONS FOR
YOU IN OUR BUDGET, FOR, FOR HOW
YOU ARE GOING TO ASSIGN YOUR
OFFICERS. SO I AM NOT
UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS
ADDITIONAL FUNDING ADDRESSES
THAT PROBLEM.
>> SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
WE'VE BEEN -- BECAUSE WE DO NOTE
EXTRA OFFICERS TO, TO BE ABLE TO
TO PUT IT ON A PERMANENT BASIS.E
USING KIND OF A HYBRID MODEL, SE
TRAINING OFFICERS BUT, YOU KNOW,
KNOW, MIGHT BE ON, SAY, NORMAL
PATROL, BUT DURING THE DAYS OFF,
OFF, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO
WORK AN OVERTIME SHIFT AND ACTUY
BE ABLE TO BE A DEPLOYED INTO
THE HARBOR UNIT. AND SO THAT'S
WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR SPECIL
EVENTS, SUCH AS FOURTH OF JULY,
SEAFARER, ET CETERA. SO WHEN THY
HAVE TIME, WE'RE NOT
CROSSTRAINING PEOPLE, AND ALSO G
ABLE TO UTILIZE THEM ON THE BOA.
THE BOAT. SO THIS ALLOWS US JUST
JUST TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR RESOS
A LITTLE BIT BETTER. BUT WHEN,
SPECIFICALLY, TO THE POINT OUR
STAFFING HAS BEEN GREATLY REDUCD
IN THE HARBOR UNIT, AND PROBABLY
PROBABLY CLOSER TO AROUND, I
DON'T WANT TO SAY THE EXACT
PERCENTAGE, BUT JUST AROUND 40%
OR SO IN REDUCTION -- BECAUSE WE
WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FILL IT
BECAUSE I'M ROBBING SOMEBODY ELE
SOMEBODY ELSE TO ACTUALLY FILL
THAT SPOT. SO REALLY, WHAT WE'VE
WE'VE HAD TO DO IS JUST CROSS
TRAIN OUR PERSONNEL, AND ALLOW
THEM TO, TO BE ABLE TO WORK
OVERTIME ON AN OVERTIME BASIS TO
TO FILL THOSE EXTRA.
>> HELPFUL. SO $250,000 INVESTMT
$250,000 INVESTMENT DOES NOT GUE
NOT GUARANTEE $250,000 WORTH OF
HOURS FOR HARBOR PATROL. THAT IS
IS STILL A DECISION THAT YOU WIL
HAVE TO MAKE WHILE BALANCING
OTHER, OTHER PRIORITIES, AS, AS
YOU FEEL NECESSARY UNDER YOUR,
YOUR CHARTER AUTHORITY TO, TO
MAKE THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS.
THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS A
HARD ASSIGNMENT OF OFFICERS TO
THAT, TO THAT FUNCTION, BUT IT
IS -- IT ALLOWS YOU TO BE MORE
FLEXIBLE WITH OVERTIME OFFICERS,
, OVERTIME HOURS FOR OFFICERS.
>> CORRECT. SO IT IS -- I'M NOT
GOING TO SAY, I CAN'T SAY, OH, M
GOING TO PUT FIVE MORE OFFICERS
FROM PATROL IN HARBOR UNIT
PERMANENTLY. THAT WOULD NOT BE
THE CASE. IT'S REALLY ABOUT
BEING FLEXIBLE AND HAVING TO
UTILIZE THEM IN AN OVERTIME
BASIS. AND, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE
AND PEOPLE DO WANT, BECAUSE THET
TO EVENTUALLY GO TO THAT UNIT,
THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR
DAYS OFF, THEY WOULD BE WORKING
AT, SO THAT DOES ALLOW ME TO
HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY OF ASSIGNT
WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE ON
THEIR DAYS OFF, SO.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON.
>> HOW MANY WORKABLE BOATS DO W?
WE HAVE?
>> YOU KNOW, I WILL GET THAT
EXACT NUMBER. I BELIEVE WE HAVET
BOATS TOTAL, AND I, RIGHT NOW, I
I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE
THAT WERE BROKEN, AND WE'VE GOT
THEM FIXED. I THINK WE'RE -- I
BELIEVE -- LET ME JUST GET YOU
THE EXACT NUMBER, RATHER THAN
GIVE YOU A NUMBER THAT JUST, I
BELIEVE FROM RECOLLECTION. SO.
>> AND BEFORE, LIKE, THE PANDEMC
THE PANDEMIC WAS THE, KIND OF
THE AVERAGE DEPLOYMENT, ABOUT
FIVE OR THREE, WHAT WAS IT? I TK
I -- CAN YOU REMIND ME?
>> THAT, I DON'T, I COULDN'T TEL
YOU THE EXACT -- TYPICALLY WE, I
I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD -- WHEN WE
WE HAD FULL STAFFING, IT ALLOWED
IT ALLOWED US TO BE ABLE TO
DEPLOY MULTIPLE BOATS AT ANY
GIVEN TIME. AND IT ALLOWS US TO
ALSO HAVE A SWITCH OF TRAINING.
SO WHEN WE DO A TRAINING
SESSION, YOU HAVE TO GIVE SO
MUCH TIME AND SEPARATION FOR AN
OFFICER TO RECOVER FROM THAT
DIVE, AND SO IT ALLOWS US TO BE
ABLE TO DO A LOT MORE RESPONSIVE
RESPONSIVE TRAINING TO THE
ISSUES THAT WE ARE GOING TO FACE
FACE OUT IN THE FIELD. SO, FOR
EXAMPLE, AS A SENIOR DEPUTY
MAYOR MENTIONED, THE I-90 RECOVY
I-90 RECOVERY, IF YOU HAVE
SOMEBODY DIVE THE FOR THAT, YOU
HAVE TO CALL MUST TAKE THEM OUT
OF SERVICE AFTER THAT, AFTER
THAT DIVE, BECAUSE THEY NEED
THAT, THAT RECUPERATION TIME.
AND SO HAVING AN EXTRA BOAT BE
ABLE TO BE STILL DEPLOYED, IT
ALLOWS US THAT FLEXIBILITY TO ME
SURE THAT, THAT ALL THE
WATERWAYS ARE STILL COVERED.
>> THANKS.
>> THANKS. ANGELA, DID YOU HAVE
SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO
THAT?
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO CLARIFY,
WE HAVE 10 BOATS IN THE FLEET.
THEY ALL SERVE DIFFERENT
PURPOSES, AND ITS, AS THE CHIEF
POINTED OUT, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS
AVAILABLE. I KNOW WE HAVE AT
LEAST ONE THAT JUST HAD AN
ENGINE FAILURE. MANY OF THESE
BOATS JUST HAVEN'T BEEN
MAINTAINED. SOME WERE USED MUCHE
FREQUENTLY THAN OTHERS. SOME ARE
ARE NOT FUNCTIONAL AS PATROL
BOATS. WE HAVE A FIRE BOAT WITH
A PUMP THAT IS ALSO BROKEN, AND
NEEDS FIXING. SO THE, THERE IS
$100,000 IN THIS ITEM THAT WILL
ALLOW US TO ADDRESS SOME OF THED
MAINTENANCE ITEMS TO FULLY
RESTORE CAPABILITIES. ON OUR,
OUR VESSELS.
>> OKAY. LET'S, LET'S KEEP GOIN.
GOING HERE.
>> ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY. SIMILAR
TO SOME OF THE OTHER
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT TE
BUDGET, AND QUESTIONING THE WHEE
THE WHERE OR THE FUND SOURCE, I
NOTE THAT THERE'S NO DOUBT THATE
VALUE OF HAVING SAFETY PATROL ON
PATROL ON THE WATER IS IMPORTAN.
IS IMPORTANT. THE CONVERSATION I
I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO HAVE
HAVE TWO YEARS AGO WAS, IS THERE
THERE A BETTER NEXUS WITH FIRE
ON THIS? CAN YOU PLEASE REMIND
US ABOUT IF AND WHETHER THE
CONVERSATIONS ACTUALLY TOOK PLAE
ABOUT TRANSITIONING HARBOR PATRL
HARBOR PATROL TO BE UNDERNEATH
OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL?
>> WELL, WE HANDLE THE CRIMINAL
ELEMENT ON THE WATERWAYS.
ANYTHING FROM DUIs TO EVEN SOME
OF THE RECOVERIES OF, OF A
POTENTIAL BODY, BECAUSE THERE
MIGHT HAVE CRIMINAL ELEMENTS TO,
TO, TO -- EVEN WHAT SOME PERCEIE
SOME PERCEIVE MIGHT PERCEIVE OF
THE DROWNING. AND SO THOSE
THINGS CANNOT BE, YOU KNOW, SENR
TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY HAE
US DO SOME OF THOSE RECOVERIES,
AND THEY HAVE US, YOU KNOW,
HANDLE OR PROCESS POTENTIAL SCES
POTENTIAL SCENES, BECAUSE
THERE'S A CRIMINAL ELEMENT TO
IT. AND SO THERE ARE, THERE IS
WORK FOR KIND OF A SEPARATION.
FIRE HAZARD ONE COMPONENT, AND
WE HAVE ANOTHER COMPONENT OF
SERVICE. SO WE'VE HAD THOSE
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FIRE DEPART
FIRE DEPARTMENT. I THINK THAT TS
BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, YOU KNO,
YOU KNOW, LOCATION, A VARIETY OF
OF DIFFERENT OTHER THINGS, AND
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN IN
DISCUSSION ABOUT AS WELL.
>> GREG, I SEE YOU.
>> YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO
ECHO WHAT THE CHIEF SAYS ABOUT
LABOR THINGS. THERE ARE A NUMBER
NUMBER OF SHARED BODIES OF WORK
BETWEEN, WELL, NOT A NUMBER, BUT
BUT ONE OF THE OVERLAPPING IS,
LIKE, MOVING DEBRIS IN THE WATE,
THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT BOTH FIRE
FIRE AND POLICE COULD DO, BUT,
YOU KNOW, IT DOES BOIL DOWN TO R
ISSUE, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO
NEGOTIATE WITH BOTH UNIONS, ANDO
THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
CONTINUES TO BE A, A PROBLEM IN
THAT AREA.
>> OKAY. WELL, I KNOW THAT WE
WILL TRY TO CONTINUE THAT
CONVERSATION, BUT WHEN I HEAR
THAT THIS IS REALLY DEDICATED TG
TO IMPROVE SAFETY FOR WEEKEND
WARRIORS, THAT, TO ME, DOES NOT
MEAN GOING OUT AND TRYING TO
FIND CRIMINAL ELEMENTS OUT THERE
THERE KNOW IF THERE IS NOT A
PAIR OF INVESTMENT WITH
ADDITIONAL SAFETY ON THE WATER,N
I'M WONDERING HOW DO WE ADVANCE
THE CONVERSATION ABOUT
CO-RESPONSE, OR DOES IT ALL HAVE
HAVE TO BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL FUE
NEGOTIATIONS OCCUR? AND I SAW
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, ICY
SENIOR DEPUTY MAYOR -- DID YOU
HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THIS,
COUNCILMEMBER?
>> I THINK I WAS JUST GOING TO Y
TO PUT A FINER POINT ON YOUR
QUESTION, BUT I, I THINK YOU DID
DID IT. BUT JUST, THERE IS AN OD
M.O. YOU BETWEEN FIRE AND
POLICE. THERE ARE, AS GREG SAID,
GREG SAID, OVERLAPPING ISSUES
THAT AREN'T CRIMINAL THAT SOME
OF THOSE THINGS COULD MOVE OVER
TO SPD, OR SFB. I THINK THE
QUESTION IS, IS SINCE WE
DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR, ABOUT
THE THINGS THAT ARE OVERLAPPING
THAT ARE NOT CRIMINAL IN INTENT,
INTENT, HAS THERE BEEN AN EFFORO
EFFORT TO, TO MOVE, TO HAVE THAT
HAVE THAT LABOR CONVERSATION, TO
TO MOVE SOME OF THOSE
OVERLAPPING ISSUES THAT ARE NOT
RELATED TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES
OVER TO FIRE?
>> WHY DON'T I TOUCH ON THAT,
AND THEN -- SO -- YES, WE WILL,E
WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. I THINK THAT WHEU
LOOK IN THE BUDGET BOOK AND YOU
SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR FIRE
BUDGET AND FIRE RESOURCES,
YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE
BEEN PRETTY TAPPED IN TERMS OF R
OF THEIR, THEIR RESOURCE AS
WELL, PARTICULARLY AROUND
OVERTIME AND, AND STAFFING. SO
WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST WITH
WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF BOTH
DEPARTMENTS. WE'LL CONTINUE TO
WORK ON THOSE. THE OTHER
COMPLAINT THAT I, I DID NOT
MENTION EARLIER, BUT, YOU KNOW,R
KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER WAS BRINGING
BRINGING IT UP, IT IS, IT IS ONE
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD
FROM OUR HOUSEBOAT IMMUNITY, IS
THAT THEY HAVE HAD ROBBERIES OCR
ROBBERIES OCCUR ON THE
HOUSEBOATS, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BN
HAVE BEEN -- THEY HAVE GOTTEN AY
VIA WATER, AND WE DO UTILIZE OUR
OUR HARBOR PATROL IN THOSE, IN E
PARTICULAR CASES. SO IT IS A
PRETTY UNIQUE SEATTLE SITUATION.
. I KNOW OTHER CITIES WOULD
WONDER HOW PEOPLE STEAL FROM
OTHERS AND THEN GET AWAY BY
WATER, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THATY
HAPPENS, AND SO OUR HARBOR PATRL
HARBOR PATROL IS THE BEST WAY TE
ABLE TO MANAGE THOSE CASES WHERE
WHERE PEOPLE PULL UP TO A
HOUSEBOAT, AND, IN A WATER VEHIE
WATER VEHICLE, AND THEN, AND
THEN ARE ABLE TO ALSO GET AWAY A
WATER. BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO
EXPLORE THE FIRE ISSUES, BUT I
THINK IF YOU LOOK FOR THEIR
BUDGET BOOK, YOU'LL SEE THAT
THEY'VE ALSO BEEN PRETTY
EXTENDED IN TERMS OF THEIR
OVERTIME HOURS AND ABILITY TO
DEPLOY THEIR WATER RESOURCES.
>>
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER LOUIS?
>> YEAH, THANK YOU. I DON'T WANT
WANT TO BELABOR THE SLIDE,
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVEA LOT
MORE TO GET TO, BUT JUST TO
RESPOND TO THAT, I DON'T THINK
THAT ANYBODY IS SAYING THERE
DOESN'T NEED TO BE A LAW
ENFORCEMENT COMPONENT TO THE
HARBOR PATROL. I JUST THINK
WHAT'S BEING UNDERLINED BY SOME
OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND I AGREE
WITH THEM, IS THAT THERE'S A
SIGNIFICANT SCOPE OF WORK THAT
IS MORE SEARCH AND RESCUE, OR
WATER SAFETY, THINGS THAT
WOULDN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE A
GUN AND BADGE. I DON'T, I DON'T
KNOW HOW COMMON THE, THE
HOUSEBOAT, GETAWAY BY BOAT BURGS
BOAT BURGLARIES ARE. BUT I WOULD
WOULD IMAGINE WE COULD HAVE A
SCOPE OF WORK WHERE WE DO HAVE N
HAVE SWORN HARBOR PATROL
PERSONNEL TO RESPOND TO THOSE KS
OF SITUATIONS, BUT THEN ALSO HAE
ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE SEARCH
MORE SEARCH AND RESCUE AND WATER
WATER SAFETY ORIENTED HARBOR COT
HARBOR COMPONENT THAT IS
COMPLEMENTARY, BUT DOESN'T
COMPLETELY REPLACE HARBOR PATRO.
HARBOR PATROL. I, I THINK WITH
LOTS OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, AND
IT'S -- I'M JUST SORT OF
FORECASTING MY BROADER INTEREST
IN ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE, I THINK
THINK WE GET BOGGED DOWN IN A CN
A CONVERSATION NO ONE, I DON'T
THINK ANY OF US ACTUALLY WANT TO
WANT TO HAVE ON THE COUNCIL,
WHERE OUR INTEREST IN EXPLORING
DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO CERTAIN
WORK IS CONSTRUED AS AN ENTIRELY
ENTIRELY REPLACING SWORN SERVICE
, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT
IT IS. IT'S JUST A SITUATION WHE
WE HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY OBLIGATN
SAFETY OBLIGATION. IT IS NOT
TENABLE TO RESPOND TO EVERYTHING
EVERYTHING WITH SWORN PERSONNEL
RIGHT NOW, FOR THE REASONS THATE
DISCUSSED, WHICH CALLS INTO
QUESTION HOW WE DIVERSIFIED
CERTAIN SERVICES, AND I THINK WE
WE IGNORE THAT PART OF THE
DISCUSSION WAY TOO MUCH, AND I
WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE A
SIGNIFICANT PART OF THIS BUDGET
DISCUSSION, AND I WOULD THINK
THAT HARBOR PATROL WOULD BE A
POTENTIAL AREA TO LOOK AT DOING,
SOME OF THAT WORK. IT DOESN'T
MEAN WE WANT TO GET RID OF THE
ENTIRE SWORN COMPONENT, BUT IT
MEANS WE CAN SUPPLEMENT IT IN A
WAY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAVE
FROM DROWNING WHILE WE'RE ALSO G
DOWN THE C BURGLARS, I GUESS, I
GUESS THAT'S PIRATES AT THAT
POINT, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THEY,
THE POINT THAT I JUST, JUST
WOULD MAKE IS THAT I THINK YOU
CAN HAVE BOTH OF THOSE SERVICES,
, AND FINDING A WAY TO RECONCILE
RECONCILE THOSE THINGS IS WHAT
WOULD BE MY, MY FOCUS, INSTEAD
OF, LIKE, IT'S GOT TO BE ALL ONE
ONE THING, OR ALL THE OTHER
THING. AND I THINK THAT FALSE
DICHOTOMY IS DISTRACTING TO US.T
US. IT HINDERS OUR ABILITY TO
MOVE FORWARD.
>> OKAY, THANKS. I AM GOING TO
-- WE'RE GOING TO ROUND OUT THIS
OUT THIS DISCUSSION WITH A FEW
HANDS HERE, BUT I WANT TO --
JUST NOTE WE HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE
SLIDE TO COVER UP FOR THE
DEPARTMENT'S PRESENTATION, SO WE
SO WE WANT TO GET TO THAT.
SENIOR DEPUTY MAYOR HARRELL,
I'LL LET YOU RESPOND FIRST, AND
THEN IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL TECHL
INPUT FROM ANGELA OR JULIE, HAPY
TO TAKE THAT, TOO.
>> YEAH. AND COUNCILMEMBER
LOUIS, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I
JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT, YOU
KNOW, I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK
AT THIS BUDGET ADD, THE 250,000,
, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A
REPLACEMENT. IT'S NOT A, IT'S
NOT A POLICE COVERING
EVERYTHING. IT IS A PRETTY MODET
PRETTY MODEST COVERAGE OF HOURS
AT A VERY LIMITED, LIMITED
SCOPE. SO I THINK THAT WE'RE
STILL DOING A LOT OF THE WORK IN
WORK IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT ALT.
THIS IS A, REALLY, A PRETTY
MODERATE RESPONSE TO WHAT WE SEE
SEE AS A NEED THAT WE'RE NOT
QUITE MEETING.
>> OKAY. DIRECTOR DAILY?
>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO
POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS A SLIDE
SLIDE REQUEST IN A RECENT BUDGE.
RECENT BUDGET. IT'S SPD'S, THE
SPD RESPONDED TO IN JULY OF 2021
, PER, I BELIEVE IT WAS, THE
SPONSOR WAS COUNCILMEMBER HERBOD
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD ASKING
THIS VERY QUESTION, RIGHT,
AROUND THE, THE, ABOUT ALL THE
DIFFERENT PARAMETERS AROUND HOW,
HOW, HOW MANY CALLS ARE THEY
GETTING, AND WHAT TYPES OF
CALLS, AND SHOULD THIS RESPONSE
LIVE IN FIRE OR CS EC INSTEAD?
AND IT'S REALLY, I THINK, A VERY
A VERY HELPFUL RESPONSE, SO I
WILL MAKE SURE THAT MY TEAM CAN
SEND THAT AROUND TO THE
COUNCILMEMBERS SO THAT WE CAN
JUST HAVE THAT AT THE TOP OF YOR
INBOXES TO HELP INFORM THE
CONVERSATION AND DELIBERATION A.
AS WELL.
>> THANKS. I WON'T SPEAK FOR THE
THE SPONSOR OF THAT, BUT I THINK
THINK THAT THE TWO OR THREE PAGE
PAGE RESPONSE, IF I REMEMBER
CORRECTLY, WAS PRETTY SHORT, SO
I THINK THAT UNDER THE NEW
ADMINISTRATION, WE ARE HOPEFUL
THAT THERE ACTUALLY WILL BE
MOVEMENT TOWARDS THIS JOINT
RESPONSE CONCEPT. BUT FEEL FREE
TO CIRCULATE THAT, JUST AS A
REMINDER OF WHAT THE PREVIOUS
ADMINISTRATION HAD SHARED WITH .
ANGELA, ANYTHING ELSE?
>> YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD IN
IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
HARBOR LIEUTENANT. HE EMPHASIZED
EMPHASIZED THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIS
AROUND THE SIDE OF THAT
EMERGENCY RESPONSE IS ALWAYS
GOING TO BE THE NUMBER ONE PRIOY
ONE PRIORITY. WE CURRENTLY
OPERATE UNDER A CO-RESPONSE
MODEL WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITYE
COMMUNITY. THE POLICE HARBOR FAY
HARBOR FACILITY, THE LOCATION ON
ON LAKE UNION PLACES US IN A
POSITION TO RESPOND MORE RAPIDLY
RAPIDLY THAN THE FIRE DEPARTMEN,
SO IN THE CASE OF FIRE OR RESCUE
, URGENT RESCUE, SPD IS OFTEN TE
FIRST RESPONDER TO ARRIVE. FIRE
WILL FOLLOW, AND OBVIOUSLY TAKER
TAKE OVER THE, THE MEDICAL RESPE
MEDICAL RESPONSE ASPECT, BUT I
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT THE LOCATION ON LAKE UNION
IS CRITICAL TO EMERGENCY
RESPONSE, WHETHER FIRE OR POLIC.
OR POLICE. WE DO HAVE FIRE
BOATS, AND OFTEN SUPPORT, AND
THEY'RE THE FIRST TO BE ABLE TOT
WATER ON ACTIVE FIRES. SO SOUNDS
SOUNDS LIKE FOR THE DISCUSSION
WILL TAKE PLACE ON THIS TOPIC,
BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A
FEW OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE
HAVE CONTEMPLATED.
>> OKAY. THANKS FOR THAT INFO.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I KNOW ONE
OF THE ISSUES WITH THE SLIDE
THAT WE RECEIVED WAS THE ASPECT
OF RECEIVING DATA, BECAUSE PAST
PRACTICE HAS BEEN, IF AN
INDIVIDUAL WITH LIKE A RESPONSE
FROM HARBOR PATROL, THE PRACTICE
PRACTICE IS TO CALL THE DIRECT E
DIRECT LINE TO THEIR OFFICE
RATHER THAN CALLING 911. HAS
THIS PRACTICE BEEN CHANGED, OR
IS THIS THE CONSISTENT PRACTICE
BEING USED TODAY?
>> THIS PRACTICE HAS CHANGED. SL
OFFICERS ARE LOGGING TO 911
SERVICE FOR HARBOR PATROL.
>> GREAT. DO YOU THINK THAT'S
GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE
INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO
PROVIDE US?
>> IT'LL AT LEAST BE ABLE TO
DOCUMENT A HIGH LEVEL OF DATA
THAT IS NEEDED TO IDENTIFY ALL
THE CALLS THAT THEY ACTUALLY
RESPOND TO, AND THAT WAS ONE OF
THE CHALLENGES, BECAUSE WHEN WE
ASKED FOR THE DATA, LIKE, HOW MY
CALLS DID YOU RESPOND TO, THEY
SAID, OH, WELL, PEOPLE CALL US,
AND THEN WE RESPOND, AND, AND
NOW, BY THEN LOGGING IT, THEY
SHOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SHORE
SHORE UP ALL THE STUFF THAT
YOU'RE REQUESTING.
>> THANK YOU. DO YOU KNOW IF
THEY ARE STILL TAKING CALLS BY ,
OR ARE, IS 100% OF THE RESPONSE
COMING THROUGH THE 911 CALL CEN?
CALL CENTER?
>> I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE
CALLS ARE STILL TAKEN BY PHONE,
BUT WHAT THEY DO IS THEY LOG THE
THE ACTUAL CALL. THEY CREATE A
CALL, AND THEN THEY LOG TO THAT
CALL. SO THERE IS STILL PEOPLE
THAT ARE GOING TO BE HOMEOWNERS,
, THAT THIS IS THE WAY THEY'VE
DONE IT, AND THEY'VE HAD, YOU
KNOW, LIKE, NEEDED TO USE 911
SERVICE FOR, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS,
YEARS, AND THEN THE OFFICERS ARE
ARE NOW INSTRUCTED TO ACTUALLY
GENERATE THAT CALL AND THEN LOG
TO THAT CALL.
>> OKAY. HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH
WITH YOU MORE ABOUT THIS ONLINE
PRINT
>> PERFECT. PERFECT. THANKS.
>> IT ALSO RAISES THE QUESTION
THAT I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ASKING
FOR THE LAST 2 1/2 YEARS, WHICH
IS -- AND THIS MIGHT GO BACK TOA
BARGAINING ISSUE. BUT WHEN THERE
WHEN THERE IS A PERSON DOWN, WHN
THERE'S A CLEAR HEALTH-RELATED
CONCERN, IT IS LIKE SPD IS STILL
IS STILL RESPONDING, NOT JUST SF
JUST SF THE. SO IS THAT THE
SITUATION ON THE WATER AND ON
LAND, IF IT'S A HEALTH-RELATED
CALL?
>> WHEN IT'S A HEALTH-RELATED CL
HEALTH-RELATED CALL, WHOEVER IS
CLOSEST FOR SERVICE IS GOING TO
END UP RESPONDING. SO SOMETIMES
FIRE IS OUT THERE, AND THEY'RE
GOING TO BE THE CLEAR ONES TO BE
BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT. IT SAYS
WE'RE ACTUALLY PATROLLING THOSE
AREAS, AND WE MIGHT FIND
OURSELVES BEING ABLE TO RESPOND
AND HANDLE IT QUICKER. AND SO
MOST, ALMOST, I THINK, BELIEVE E
IS ENT TRAINED AS WELL, SO IT HS
THAT BASIC LIFE SUPPORT. SERVIC.
>> THANKS FOR THE UPDATE. I SAID
I SAID WE WERE GOING TO MOVE ON,
MOVE ON, AND I KEPT ASKING
QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS, THANKS FOR THOSE GOOD
QUESTIONS YOU ASK. LET'S MOVE ON
ON TO THE LAST SLIDE HERE.
>> ALL RIGHT. THIS LAST SLIDE, I
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, FOR
THE SAKE OF THOROUGHNESS,
INCLUDE SOME OF THE BASELINE AND
AND TECHNICAL CHANGES HERE. THE,
THE, THE BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS
ACCOUNT FOR A CENTRAL COST,
ALONG WITH ANNUAL WAGE INCREASES
, HOLIDAY PAY, AND A NUMBER OF
OTHER ITEMS. THAT IS ALL MANAGED
MANAGED CENTRALLY THROUGH THE
CITY BUDGET OFFICE AND DIRECTED
TO THE DEPARTMENT'S, AND THE
TECHNICAL ADJUSTMENTS CONTINUE.
OUR SUPPLEMENTAL ADS FROM 2022,
AND ALSO ADDRESS THE S PNA ANNUL
WAGE INCREASE SEPARATE FROM THE,
THE, THE BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> OKAY, LET ME PAUSE HERE, SEE
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY.
WELL, THAT WAS A THOROUGH
DISCUSSION. WE DID MORE LIKE AN
HOUR AND A HALF, BUT THAT WAS
VERY HELPFUL. I'M SURE THAT WE L
WE WILL HEAR SOME MORE COMMENTS
ON THESE TOPICS IN THE CENTRAL
STAFF PRESENTATION, BUT WE MAY
HAVE GOTTEN SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN OUR
DISCUSSION HERE TODAY. JUST
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, THANK YOU,
CHIEF, FOR THE UPDATE ON THE
NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE NOT
COMPLYING WITH THE VACCINE REQU.
VACCINE REQUIREMENTS. I WAS
LOOKING AT THE NOVEMBER 4th,
2021 SEATTLE TIMES SUMMARY, AND
IT SAID, AT THAT POINT, THERE
WAS 100 OFFICERS ON LEAVE FOR
COVID RELATED LEAVE REQUESTS. DO
DO WE HAVE AN UPDATED NUMBER ON
HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE ON LEAVE.
>> WE CAN GET YOU AN UPDATE -- I
I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER 10 FOR
MEDICAL, AND I BELIEVE IT'S
AROUND 125 FOR RELIGIOUS. BUT
SOME OF THEM HAVE ARTIE RETURNE.
ARTIE RETURNED. AND THEN SOME
HAVE ALSO JUST, IN GENERAL, WE
DON'T KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, IF
THEY LEFT FOR THE VACCINE, BUT
SOME HAVE LEFT THE DEPARTMENT OF
OF THAT INITIAL 100 PEOPLE. SO
SOME PEOPLE HAVE RETIRED EARLY,
OR NOT EARLY, BUT HAVE RETIRED.O
RETIRED. SO WITH THAT, THAT'S
THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE
DEFINITIVE NUMBERS OF, IF
SOMEBODY SAYS, OH, I'M GOING TO
RETIRE, I'VE DONE 25 YEARS,
IT'S, IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE
WHETHER IT WAS A VACCINE THING,
OR IF IT WAS AN ACTUAL
RETIREMENT, SOBERED
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
>> BUT WE'LL GET YOU CLEAR
NUMBERS.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WEL,
I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER GENERAL
GENERAL QUESTIONS FOR SPD AS A
DEPARTMENT, SO WE ARE GOING TO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
ROBUST PRESENTATION, AND I'M SUE
THERE WILL BE MANY MORE DISCUSSS
BACK AND FORTH WITH CENTRAL
STAFF, AND WITH YOUR TEAMS, AS
WE DIG INTO THE BUDGET DETAILS E
BIT MORE, SO THANK YOU. YOU WERE
YOU WERE WITH US THIS MORNING,
YOU ARE WITH US NOW, AND YOU ARE
ARE WELCOME, AS WELL, TO, TO BOT
BOW OUT AS WE GO INTO THE CENTRL
STAFF PRESENTATION, AND, OF COU,
I KNOW WE'LL HAVE A CBL ON THE
LINE HERE FOR SOME TECHNICAL
ISSUES, BUT, YOU KNOW, WELCOME
TO LISTEN IN TULSA.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> OKAY, GREAT. THANKS, CHIEF D.
GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL, AND, AND
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND START WITH
THE CENTRAL STAFF'S SUMMARY OF
-- COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF
IDENTIFIED ISSUES. THANK YOU, GG
AT
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. GREG DOSS, CENTRAL STAFFE
TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT ISSUES TT
ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED
FOR THE SPD BUDGET. THE FIRST
ISSUE IS UNSWORN STAFFING, AND
SORT OF AT A HIGH LEVEL SO FAR
THIS YEAR, SPD HAS SEEN AN ACTUL
AN ACTUAL AVERAGE SEPARATION
RATE OF ABOUT 15 TRAINED
OFFICERS PER MONTH. THEY ARE
CURRENTLY PROJECTING THAT AT THE
THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY WILL
HAVE SEEN 153 TRAINED OFFICERS .
OFFICERS SEPARATE. SO HOW DO
THEY CREATE THOSE PROJECTIONS?
EACH MONTH, THEY UPDATE THEIR SN
THEIR SWORN STAFFING PLAN WITH
ACTUALS. OVERRIDING THE PREVIOUS
NUMBERS THAT THEY HAD IN THEIR
STAFFING PLAN FOR THE PRIOR MON.
BUT WHAT THEY DO NOT DO IS TO
UPDATE THE FUTURE MONTHS OF
PROJECTIONS. AND SO
CONSEQUENTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
THE '22, 2022 STAFFING PLAN,
THAT'S THIS YEAR, WHAT YOU'LL
SEE IS THAT THEY'VE UPDATED ALLE
LAST SEVERAL MONTHS BETWEEN NOW
AND, OR BETWEEN JANUARY OF 2022
AND AUGUST, TO REFLECT THAT
HIGHER NUMBER OF SEPARATIONS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK FOR THE NEXT, I
GUESS, FEW MONTHS, THE PLAN WE,
WE RECEIVED SHOWS SEPTEMBER,
OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER.
DECEMBER. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STILL
STILL A VERY LOW RATE. IT'S ONLY
ONLY ABOUT SIX PER MONTH. AND ST
SO WHAT -- WHAT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SHOWING US IS
IT'S ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE WOUL-
WOULD -- IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAF
OF WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO
LEAVE, GIVEN OUR EXPERIENCE SO
FAR THIS YEAR. AND IT'S ACTUALLY
ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT THEY'RE
PROJECTING TO LEAVE NEXT YEAR.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE
NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT THEY THINKE
GOING TO LEAVE ON A MONTHLY
AVERAGE BASIS NEXT YEAR, IT'S AT
IT'S ABOUT EIGHT SEPARATIONS PER
PER MONTH. AND SO THIS IS JUST A
-- AN ARTIFACT OF THE WAY THAT
THEY DO THEIR, THEIR STAFFING U,
THAT THEY HAVE BUILT THEIR
BUDGET, THE 2023 BUDGET, ON THE
ASSUMPTION THAT VERY FEW
OFFICERS ARE GOING TO LEAVE THIS
THIS FALL, AN AVERAGE OF SIX PER
PER MONTH, WHICH IS A PRETTY LOW
LOW ASSUMPTION, GIVEN WHAT WE
HAVE SEEN. AND SO ONE OPTION
THAT THE COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER
IS , ASSUMING THAT THERE WOULD E
A HIGHER RATE OF SEPARATION THIS
THIS FALL, SOMETHING MAY BE MORE
MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE DT
IS ASSUMING NEXT YEAR, LET'S SAY
SAY EIGHT SEPARATIONS PER MONTH,
, AND IF THE COUNCIL DID THAT, N
THAT, THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT
THERE WOULD BE SWORN SALARY
SAVINGS IN THE 2023 BUDGET,
BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE FEWER OFS
FEWER OFFICERS, ABOUT EIGHT OR
SO, FEWER OFFICERS THAT WOULD
NEED SALARIES NEXT YEAR. AND SO
THE OPTION THERE, WOULD YOU GO D
AND FLIP THE SLIDE? THANK YOU.
SO THE OPTION THERE WOULD BE TO
REDUCE THE 2023 BUDGET BY $1.1
MILLION TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT
THAT THE COUNCIL IS ASSUMING
THAT THIS FALL, THERE WILL BE A
HIGHER SEPARATION RATE THAN THE
DEPARTMENT IS ASSUMING. AND THAT
THAT NEXT YEAR, WE WILL NEED
FEWER SALARY DOLLARS FOR SPD STF
SPD STAFF. AND OPTION B WOULD BE
BE NO CHANGE.
>> ALL RIGHT. WOW. WOW. OKAY. IE
I SEE COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS,
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON, JUST FOR
FOR THE SAKE OF ADDITIONAL
CLARIFICATION, IF THERE'S
SOMETHING THAT WAS MISSING, OR
YOU NEED TO ADD?
>> YES. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORY
THE OPPORTUNITY. I JUST WANTED O
FLAG THAT THERE IS A CONCERN
FROM THE EXECUTIVE ON THIS PROPL
THIS PROPOSAL. OFTEN, WE HAVE
TO, AS WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS
YEAR, AND YOU ALL HAVE HAD TO
DEAL WITH, WE DO NEED TO USE THE
THE SALARY SAVINGS TO PAY FOR
ADDITIONAL OVERTIME, BECAUSE THE
THE FEWER OFFICERS WE HAVE, THE
MORE WE HAVE TO ASK THOSE ON
THEIR DAYS OFF TO COME IN TO
COVER THOSE SHIFTS. AND SO, NOT
TO IMPUTE ANY MATH HERE, OR THIS
OR THIS OPTION, IT WOULD, IN
REAL TERMS, REDUCE THE ABILITY
OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DEPY
OFFICERS, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HE
THAT OVERTIME AVAILABLE TO MEET
THOSE NEEDS, AND SO THAT'S JUST
AN ADDED IMPACT OF THIS OPTION.
>> OKAY. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT
THAT THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL. WE
ARE ASKING CENTRAL STAFF TO DO
AN INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS FOR US.
>> THANK YOU. AND THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SEE THAT
INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS. WE'VE HAD
THE CHANCE TO SEE THE PROPOSAL
AS OUTLINED IN THE PROPOSED
BUDGET. OBVIOUSLY, THERE WILL BE
BE CONCERNS ABOUT ITEMS THAT
MIGHT NOT ALIGN 100%. WE GET
THAT. BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAE
THAT WE RESERVE THE CHANCE TO
HEAR ANY TECHNICAL FEEDBACK FOR
ADDITIONAL INPUT IN THESE, IN
THESE TIMES. SO THANK YOU FOR
SHARING THAT PERSPECTIVE, AND
WE'LL GO OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.
>> THANK YOU, AND, GREG, I DON'W
IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU OR
OR FOR THE DEPARTMENT, BUT JUST
TO -- YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS DISN
EVERYBODY ABOUT EXPECTED
ATTRITION RATES, AND WHAT WE
SHOULD BUDGET TO, AND THERE'S AS
THERE'S ALWAYS MORE AMBITIOUS TS
AMBITIOUS TARGETS THAT ARE
SUGGESTED BY THE EXECUTIVES.
THIS TIME AROUND, ARE THESE NUMS
INFORMED BY PROJECTIONS BASED OE
HIRING AND RETENTION INCENTIVES
THAT THE EXECUTIVE IS GOING TO
BE OFFERING, OR SOME OTHER
CONSIDERATIONS THAT MIGHT MAKE S
CYCLE MATERIALLY DIFFERENT IN
TERMS OF THE ANTICIPATED SEPARAS
ANTICIPATED SEPARATIONS THAN THE
THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS?
>> WELL, I THINK THAT IN TERMS
OF THE NEW HIRES, THAT THE EXECE
WOULD, WOULD SAY THAT THEY CERTY
HOPE THAT THE BONUSES, THE
STREAMLINED RECRUITING,
ADDITIONAL WORK, ALL OF THOSE
THINGS WOULD IMPACT THE NEW
HIGHER SIDE, AND THAT THEY COULD
-- THAT'S WHY I HAVE THIS TABLE
TABLE APPEAR FOR YOU. THEY COULD
COULD MOVE FROM, IF YOU LOOK AT2
AT 2022, PROJECTED YEAR AND
HIRES FROM 68 THIS YEAR TO 120
NEXT YEAR. SO, CERTAINLY, THEY
HOPE THAT THE RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION BILL WILL IMPACT THAT.
THAT NUMBER. IN TERMS OF
REDUCING THE SEPARATIONS FROM
THE 153 NUMBER DOWN TO 105,
THERE'S NOT A LOT IN THE
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION BILL
THAT WOULD AFFECT SEPARATIONS O.
OR RETENTION. THERE IS AN
$800,000 ITEM FOR A LEADERSHIP Y
LEADERSHIP ACADEMY THAT FALLS
UNDER THE RETENTION INITIATIVE Y
INITIATIVE CATEGORY, AND I'M
QUITE SURE THAT SPD IS DOING ITS
ITS OWN THINGS FOR RETENTION, A,
OF COURSE, THERE'S ALSO BARGAING
GOING ON WITH THE UNION, AND
RETENTION IS LIKELY A SUBJECT
THERE, TOO. BUT IN TERMS OF SUCS
OF SUCCESS IN, IN KEEPING FOLKS
THERE, THAT IS, THAT IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO PREDICT, AND THAT S
WHY, I THINK, SPD, WHEN THEY
REVISE THEIR STAFFING PLAN,
REVISES PAST MONTHS ON
SEPARATION, BUT IS RELUCTANT TO,
TO, TO CHANGE THE FORWARD PROJES
AS THEY'RE MOVING ALONG. OF
COURSE, THEY HAVE TO DO IT WHEN
THEY'RE EATING TOGETHER AN
ANNUAL BUDGET. THEY HAVE TO
ASSUME SOME NUMBER, AND, IN THIS
THIS CASE, THEY ASSUMED 105.
>> FOLLOW-UP ON THAT.
>> NO, NO FOLLOW-UP. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. SENIOR DEPUTY MAYOR, I
DIDN'T WANT TO -- I SO YOU HAD .
A HAND. ANYTHING TO ADD AS WELL?
WELL?
>> I THINK THAT GREG COVERED
WELL SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE
ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE WERE
COVERING. IF YOU LOOK AT SEPARAS
AT SEPARATIONS AS A PERCENTAGE
OF THE OVERALL NUMBER OF OFFICES
OF OFFICERS, THERE DOES REACH A
POINT OF, KIND OF, HOPEFULLY
DIMINISHING RETURNS ON
SEPARATIONS THAT WE HAVE FEWER
PEOPLE TO SEPARATE FROM A
SMALLER NUMBER. AND SO WE ARE
VERY MUCH WORKING RECRUITMENT
AND RETENTION PLAN THAT WILL
HOPEFULLY NOT SEE OUR NUMBERS
DROP TOO FAR BELOW FROM WHAT
THEY ARE NOW. SO IF YOU LOOK ATU
KNOW, WHERE WE NET OUT ON THE
ASSUMPTIONS OVERALL, WE ARE
REALLY HOPING TO HAVE ENDED THE,
THE, THE ATTRITION TO BE ABLE TO
TO RECRUIT UP THROUGH NEXT,
THROUGH NEXT YEAR, BEGINNING THH
NEXT YEAR. SEEING POSITIVE GAING
FORWARD. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT E
NUMBER OF SEPARATIONS AND THE
NUMBER OF ADS, WE ARE REALLY HOG
TO NOT HAVE ATTRITION IN THOSE .
THOSE NUMBERS.
>> OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS,
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> NO. THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR NO.
>> OKAY. THANKS. COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU. JUST WONDERING, IA
IS A THIRD OPTION TO SORT OF APY
YOUR SAME LOGIC HERE, TO 2023 AS
AS YOU DO FOR 2022, OR IS THAT
IDENTIFIED AS A COMPLETELY
SEPARATE ISSUE?
>> IT IS NOT IDENTIFIED AS A
SEPARATE ISSUE, AND IT COULD BE
A THIRD OPTION, AN OPTION C.
SORT OF THE OPTION THAT IS
BEFORE YOU NOW IS TO TAKE THAT
153 NUMBER, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW,
IN THE SEPARATIONS ON 2022, AND
YOU WOULD BE MOVING THAT UP
EFFECTIVELY TO 161. AND THEN
THAT, THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S THEN
BEFORE YOU. WHAT THAT DOES IS IT
IT ALSO GIVES THE FLEXIBILITY,
IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY SEE 161 IN
IN 2022, THEN YOU STILL MAY
ACCRUE THE SAVINGS IN 2023 S, IF
IF THERE ARE NOT 120 HIRES MADE,
, OR IF THERE ARE MORE THAN 105
SEPARATIONS. SO IT KIND OF STILL
STILL GETS YOU THERE EITHER WAY,
, EVEN IF YOU, EVEN IF YOU WEREO
WERE TO ASSUME THAT IN 2022, OR
IF YOU WERE TO ASSUME THAT IN
2023, SORT OF, THE OPTION C THAE
TALKING ABOUT. THE BENEFIT OF
DOING 2022 IS THAT IT GETS YOU A
YOU A FULL YEAR OF THAT SAVINGS,
THAT SAVINGS, AND IT GETS YOU A
HIGHER DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT GETS
YOU THE 1.1 MILLION.
>> I WANTED TO CLARIFY, MY, MY
IDEA OF AN OPTION THREE, I'M ASG
I'M ASKING AS AN ADDITIVE
OPTION, NOT AS A SUBSTITUTION.
I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE A D
A NEED, OR WOULD THERE BE A
BENEFIT OF RIGHTSIZING THE
SEPARATION ESTIMATE FOR THE OUT
YEARS AS WELL AS FOR THIS YEAR?
>> YEAH. AND SO THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ,
, BY CHOICE, DONE IN THE LAST
TWO YEARS. THEY HAVE TAKEN THE
EXECUTIVES SWORN STAFFING PLAN,D
PLAN, AND TAKEN THE NUMBER OF
HIRES, AND ASSUMED THE SAME
NUMBER OF SEPARATIONS. AND LAST
YEAR, THAT WAS EFFECTIVELY 125 S
125 HIRES AND 125 SEPARATIONS.
AND, AS YOU CAN SEE, IN 2022,
NOWHERE NEAR 125 HIRES, AND WELL
WELL OVER 125 SEPARATIONS. IN
2021, YOU HAD THE SAME KIND OF
ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. SO THERE ISA
PRECEDENT FOR, FOR DOING BOTH
OPTIONS, AS YOU'RE SUGGESTING.
SORT OF THE, THE BALANCE THERE
IS WHAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR IS
BRINGING UP. AT WHAT POINT IN
TIME DO THEY RETIREMENTS AND
SEPARATIONS START TO FALL OFF,
IF THEY DO? AND IF YOU ASSUME A
GREATER NUMBER, AND THEY DO STAT
FALLING OFF, YOU'LL BE IN A
POSITION HALFWAY THROUGH THE YER
OF POTENTIALLY HAVING TO ADD
MONEY.
>> UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> AS LONG AS I HAVE THE FLOOR
HERE FOR A SECOND, I'D LOVE TO O
ADDRESS DIRECTOR DING LEASE
COMMENT. IT IS TRUE THAT BY
CUTTING THE MONEY FOR THE VACANS
THE VACANCIES IN 2022, THIS
OPTION A THAT I HAVE RESENTED,
YOU WOULD NOT LEAVE THAT MONEY
AVAILABLE IN OVERTIME NEXT YEARD
YEAR. AND, BY NOT HAVING THE MOY
AVAILABLE IN OVERTIME, THE
DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT HAVE THAT
MONEY AVAILABLE FOR EXTRA
EMPHASIS PATROLS, MORE PATROL AN
PATROL AUGMENTATION, AND THEY
WOULD BE FEWER STAFF. SO THAT,
THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO R
TO CONSIDER IN THE BIGGER PICTUE
BIGGER PICTURE. THEY HAVE HAD
SWORN STAFFING SEPARATIONS AT
THE MUCH HIGHER RATE IN THE LAST
LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND A NUMBER
OF THOSE SAVINGS HAVE GONE INTOH
OVERTIME AS WELL AS INTERNAL
NEEDS FOR THE DEPARTMENT, THINGE
THINGS LIKE THE S PMA CONTRACT T
THAT WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT
HERE IN A MINUTE.
>> CAN ASK A QUESTION? I'M
SORRY, COLLEAGUES, I SEE YOUR
HANDS. BUT DOES THAT MEAN THAT
THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION BEING MAE
WITHIN THE PROPOSED BUDGET
THAT'S COME DOWN THAT THERE IS Y
IS ALREADY AN UNDERESTIMATE ON
THE NUMBER OF OVERTIME HOURS
THAT WILL BE NEEDED NEXT YEAR?
>> I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE
EXECUTIVE ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY
THEY THINK THERE IS AN
UNDERESTIMATE OF THE NUMBER OF
OVERTIME HOURS. I THINK THAT
WHAT THE, WHAT THEY WERE SAYING
IS THAT IF THERE ARE EIGHT FEWEF
FEWER STAFF, AND THE COUNCIL
TAKES THE SALARY SAVINGS, THAT
THAT EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT, $1.1
MILLION, WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE
IN OVERTIME TO, TO -- FOR PATROL
PATROL AUGMENTATION, OR FOR
OTHER OVERTIME USES THAT MIGHT
BE ABLE TO BALANCE OUT NOT
HAVING THOSE EIGHT OFFICERS. AND
THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN TE
THAN THE STATE OF THE 2023
PROPOSED BUDGET AS IT WAS SENT
TO THE COUNCIL. AND WHAT I'M
SUGGESTING IS THAT IN THE BIG
PICTURE OF SPD'S SALARY SAVINGS
OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS,
THERE'S A SORT OF BEEN ENOUGH TO
TO GO AROUND FOR OVERTIME AND FR
AND FOR OTHER THINGS THAT THE DT
WANTED TO SPEND ON. THAT MAY OR
MAY NOT BE THE CASE NEXT YEAR.
IT IS ALWAYS A RISK.
>> OKAY. AND I SAW YOU NODDING.S
NODDING. THAT'S, IS THAT
AFFIRMATION?
>> I DID, YES. THEY COVERED THAT
THAT REALLY WELL. APPRECIATE IT.
IT.
>> OKAY, EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. K
I THINK THAT COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD AND COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS
HAVE GONE. I BELIEVE WE ARE
NEXT TO COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA. IN
IN TERMS OF ISSUE IDENTIFICATION
IDENTIFICATION FOR THE SEATTLE E
DEPARTMENT, I'M APPROACHING THIS
THIS FROM THE CONCERN OF US
HAVING A, A MAJOR STAFFING SHOR,
STAFFING SHORTAGE, 911 RESPONSE
TIMES BEING TOO HIGH, TOO LONG.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL VIOLENT CRIMES
IN MY DISTRICT, AND SO I, FOR
ME, THE OPTION C WOULD BE, HOW
DO WE DO MORE FOR RECRUITMENT
AND RETENTION? I THINK IT'S A
LITTLE BIT PREMATURE TO BE
ASSUMING THAT SPD WON'T HIT
THEIR GOALS HERE, ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE THE RECRUITMENT RETENTIN
RECRUITMENT RETENTION STRATEGIES
STRATEGIES HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY
REALIZED YET. I'M CONCERNED ABOT
CONCERNED ABOUT, AS THE CBO
DIRECTOR MENTIONED, NOT HAVING
ENOUGH FOR OVERTIME THAT WE'LL
NEED. PART OF THE SEPARATIONS,
BASED ON EXIT INTERVIEWS, IS
THAT THE OFFICERS DON'T FEEL
SUPPORTED. I'M CONCERNED WE HAVE
WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF DETECTIVE.
OF DETECTIVES. SO I JUST, I
REALLY HOPE THAT WE VIEW THIS
AS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO KEEP
OFFICERS HERE? WHAT MORE COULD
WE BE DOING FOR RECRUITMENT
RATHER THAN TRYING TO NICKEL AND
AND DIME THE DEPARTMENT, SCOOP ,
QUESTION THEM TOO EARLY AT THIS?
THIS POINT? MAYBE THIS WOULD BE
A DISCUSSION WE COULD HAVE AT
THE END OF THE YEAR, OR MIDYEAR,
OR MIDYEAR, NEXT YEAR, WHEN WE
HAVE -- WHEN WE SEE IF IT, THE
PLAN HAS STARTED TO WORK FROM
OUR NEW MAYOR AND FROM OUR NOW N
TO BE PERMANENT POLICE CHIEF.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN, FOR FLAGGING THOSE
INTERESTS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
NELSON.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
SO, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY IS
OUR CORE RESPONSIBILITY, AND,
AND WE CAN DO BETTER. I MEAN,
JUST LOOK AT THE LAST SHOT
SPOTTER, NOT SHOT SPOTTER, BUT
SHOTS FIRED REPORT THAT CAME OUT
OUT FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.
YEAR-TO-DATE HOMICIDES ARE UP 2,
WITH 46 CONFIRMED VICTIMS THIS ,
34 OF WHOM WERE FATAL SHOOTINGSD
SHOOTINGS, AND TWO THIRDS OF
THOSE WERE PEOPLE OF COLOR. SO
THE -- SO I COULD GO ON AND ON
AND ON ABOUT THE STATISTICS, BUT
BUT THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO
TO MAKE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SPD
IS ALREADY TAKING THE LARGEST
CUT OF ANY DEPARTMENT IN THE
BUDGET THIS YEAR. THIS BUDGET
ASSUMES THAT WE'RE PERMANENTLY G
PERMANENTLY REMOVING 80 OFFICERS
THAT WILL PROVIDE $11 MILLION
TO BE USED FOR GENERAL FUND, YOU
YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE
BECAUSE THOSE POSITIONS ARE
GONE. SO THIS, THIS TALK ABOUT
CUTTING AGAIN MAKES ME
CONCERNED, BECAUSE, ALSO, AS WE
JUST TALKED ABOUT OVERTIME LAST,
LAST YEAR, COUNSEL CUT $3 MILLIN
FOR OVERTIME THAT WAS IN THE
MAHER'S PROPOSED BUDGET, AND WE
NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPP.
TO HAPPEN. BUT THE FINAL -- THET
I WANT TO SHOW, IF YOU LOOK AT
THE HISTORICAL STAFFING, YOU'LL
NOTICE THAT THE, THE RECENT YEAR
YEAR THAT HAD THE MOST HIRES
WITH 2019, AT 108 OFFICERS. ANDT
WAS A YEAR IN WHICH THERE WAS A
STAFFING INCENTIVE PROGRAM IN P.
IN PLACE. AND SO WHY NOT BE
OPTIMISTIC? AND, AND, AND ASSUME
THAT THE, THAT THE RETENTION PN
RETENTION PLAN, AND RECRUITMENT
PLAN THAT WE PASSED, DOES HAVE
THE INTENDED EFFECTS? SO THAT'S,
THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M COMINGM
ON THIS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON, FOR SHARING THAT
PERSPECTIVE. COUNCILMEMBER,
MORALES, GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THERE IS A LOT OF REFERENCG
MADE RIGHT NOW TO OUR CITY
CHARTER PRIORITY, PRIORITIES,
AND THERE'S AN IMPLICATION THAT
OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY VIA THE
CHARTER IS PUBLIC SAFETY. WITH
THE PREAMBLE OF THE CHART
ACTUALLY SAYS IS THAT IT'S FOR
THE PURPOSE OF PROTECTING AND
ENHANCING THE HEALTH OF OUR
COMMUNITY, SAFETY, ENVIRONMENT,
AND THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE
PEOPLE. SO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF
OF THE CITY GOES FAR BEYOND
PUBLIC SAFETY. IT INCLUDES TRANY
INCLUDES TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTA,
, ACCOUNTABILITY, FISCAL RESPONY
FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY THESE ARE
ALSO REQUIRED OF THE MAYOR AND
OF THE COUNCIL VIA THE CHARTER.
WE ARE OBLIGATED TO PROTECT THE
HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE, ANDO
PROVIDE EQUITABLE PARTICIPATION
OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN SERVICE OF
OUR NEIGHBORS, AND OUR, AND OURY
OUR CITY TO CREATE A HEALTHY CI.
HEALTHY CITY. SO THAT'S WHY
WE'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS.S
WHY WE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, SORT
SORT OF MULLING ALL OF THIS,
ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST FEW
YEARS, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TS
HOW WE ALLOCATE OUR VERY SCARCE,
SCARCE, AND NOW EVEN SCARCER,
PUBLIC RESOURCES. THAT'S WHY WE
HAVE SO MUCH CONCERN ABOUT HOW
WE'RE INVESTING IN THE PROGRAMS
AND SERVICES, AND THE FRONT-LINE
FRONT-LINE WORKERS WHO SERVE OUR
SERVE OUR MOST VULNERABLE, WHO
CAN HAVE REALLY LONG LASTING
IMPACTS ON, ON THE HEALTH OF OUS
AND OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR,
TRANSPARENT, SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIS
SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS TO THE
VERY REAL STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS
THAT WE ARE REALIZING WE HAVE IN
IN OUR FINANCIAL PRACTICES IN
THE CITY. SO, YOU KNOW,
CERTAINLY, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE
PART OF WHAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TT
IN THIS CITY, BUT IT'S NOT THE
ONLY PART, AND IT IS NOT EVEN
THE FIRST THING MENTIONED IN THE
THE CITY CHARTER. HEALTH IS THE
FIRST THING MENTIONED. SO I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO
KIND OF RECALIBRATE OUR
EXPECTATIONS ABOUT HOW WE NEED
TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, AND ACKE
AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, ESPECIALLY
ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE HE
WE HAVE SO MANY EXTRAORDINARILY
VULNERABLE PEOPLE ON OUR STREETS
, THERE ARE THINGS WE SHOULD BE
DOING TO SERVE THEM. THINGS THAT
THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
CANNOT DO. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUSTI
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO BE
CLEAR ABOUT THAT, AND TO, TO
REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE
LOTS OF OBLIGATIONS AS A CITY
COUNCIL, AND, AND THE MAYOR, AND
AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS JUST ONE OF
OF THEM, AND IT IS SOMETHING WE
NEED TO KEEP IN MIND.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MIRELES, FOR SHARING THAT
PERSPECTIVE. COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA. JUST TO JUMP IN HERET
OF SIMILAR TO THE POINTS THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES WAS
RAISING. WHAT I WOULD REALLY
LIKE TO SEE, AS PART OF OUR
BUDGET PROCESS, AND THIS IS SORT
IS SORT OF IMMATERIAL OF EXACTLY
EXACTLY HOW WE FUND THE, THE
SWORN HIRING PLAN. AND I AGREE
WITH THE SENTIMENTS MENTIONED BY
BY SOME COLLEAGUES THAT WE WANT
TO OPTIMISTICALLY REALIZE THE
FOUR CORNERS OF THIS HIRING PLA.
BUT I WANT TO ALSO SEE HOW WE CN
SET UP WORKING BACKWARDS FROM
WHAT THE SITUATION IS ON THE
STREET, IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY,
TO REALIZE REAL, SUSTAINED, AND
IMPROVED COMMUNITY SAFETY. IT'S
NOT ALL GOING TO COME FROM THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO
SORT OF EMPHASIZE SOME OF THE
BROADER POINTS OF AGREEMENT I
HAVE WITH, WITH COUNCILMEMBER
MIRELES JUST STATED. IT'S GOING
TO ALSO COME FROM PLACE MAKING.S
GOING TO COME FROM MAKING PHYSIL
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT,
ENVIRONMENT, FROM ACTIVATING
STOREFRONTS. IT'S GOING TO COME
FROM, YOU KNOW, BETTER, BETTER ,
AND GETTING PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO
TO THE SPACES AND HAVE MORE
INFORMAL GUARDIANS IN OUR PUBLIC
PUBLIC PLACES. AND I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT
SIGHT OF THAT. IT'S ALSO GOING
TO COME FROM THINGS LIKE
ADEQUATELY COMPENSATING AND
PAYING OUR SOCIAL SERVICE
PROVIDERS WHO ARE TAKING PEOPLE
OFF THE STREETS AND KEEPING THEF
THE STREETS IN PLACES WHERE
THEY'RE GETTING CARE AND
ASSISTANCE AND HELP, INSTEAD OF
BEING IN A POSITION WHERE THEY
CAN BE POTENTIAL VICTIMS OF
VIOLENCE, WHICH WE'VE SEEN
HAPPEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN. JUST
JUST TO DIGRESS A LITTLE BIT
MORE, BECAUSE I, I KNOW WE'RE, E
WE'RE, WE'RE PRESSED, BUT TO
FLAG MY INTEREST IN SOME FUTURE
DISCUSSIONS, I WOULD REALLY LIKE
LIKE US TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN
CAN MAKE IT BUDGET MORE
COORDINATION BETWEEN A LOT OF
THE DIFFERENT GROUPS WE HAVE OUT
OUT IN THE PUBLIC, WHO ARE DOINC
SAFETY WORK, BUT IT'S NOT
NECESSARILY AS COORDINATED AS IT
IT COULD BE. AN SPD REALLY NEEDS
NEEDS TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT
PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, AND
THAT'S WHY UNFLAGGING THAT RIGHT
THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT WE HAVE A
LOT OF PEOPLE DOWNTOWN WHO ARE
DOING OUTREACH. WE HAVE REACH
WORKERS DOING OUTREACH. YOU
KNOW, WE HAVE THE MID-AMBASSADO.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE OUT THERE DOING PUBLIC
SAFETY WORK, BUT WHAT I SENSE IG
IS LACKING IS A BROADER VIEW
WHERE WE CAN WORK BACKWARDS FROM
BACKWARDS FROM EXACTLY WHAT THE
PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TOX
TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST MIX
OF PERSONNEL AND STRATEGY IS
GOING TO BE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE
DIFFERENCE ON THOSE THINGS. AND,
AND, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S NO
BIGGER POINT THEN, LOOK, WE HAD
1400 POLICE STAFF MEMBERS IN
JANUARY OF 2020. THERE WAS A
MASS SHOOTING ON THIRD AVENUE
THAT KILLED A COMMUNITY MEMBER
LIVING IN A BELLWETHER COMMUNITY
COMMUNITY HOUSING BUILDING ON
THIRD AVENUE, AND, AND THEY, IT
WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY CRISIS THAT
SHOCKED THE CONSCIENCE, AND THAT
THAT WAS WITH HIGH POLICE
STAFFING. SO POLICE ARE
NECESSARY, AND WE NEED TO BUILD
BACK THE STAFFING THROUGH A PLAN
PLAN LIKE THIS, BUT I WANT TO
SEE IT HOOKED UP TO A BROADER
COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN
THAT IS WORKING BACKWARDS FROME
SITUATION WE'RE SEEING ON THE S,
AND WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE WE
NEED TO RESPOND AND MITIGATE
THOSE PROBLEMS. AND THAT'LL COME
THAT'LL COME MORE INTO FOCUS AS
WE TALK ABOUT THE HSD AND KC RHA
RHA ADDS AS WELL, BUT I WANTED
TO FLAG IT HERE, BECAUSE IT'S,
IT'S IMPORTANT IN THE CONTEXT OF
OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR POLICE
ARE SUPPLEMENTED WITH ADEQUATE L
FOR COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY SAF.
COMMUNITY SAFETY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS, FOR SHARING THAT
PERSPECTIVE. COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON, I SEE YOUR HAND'S STILL.
STILL UP. IS THAT AN OLD HAND,
OR A NEW HAND?
>> OH, I'M SORRY. PUBLIC SAFETY
IS ALL OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS JUST SAID. IT'S NOT JUST
POLICE. I SAID PUBLIC SAFETY ISA
CORE RESPONSIBILITY. LET'S NOT
FORGET FIRE AND ALL OF THE SERVS
THAT WE'VE GOT THAT ARE ALSO
WORKING ON THE COMBINATION OF HH
OF HEALTH AND PEOPLE'S SAFETY.
SO JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, INE
I WASN'T CLEAR.
>> OKAY, THANKS. I DO HAVE A FEW
FEW QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER LE,
I THINK THAT THAT'S AN OLD HAND?
HAND, CORRECT? ALL RIGHT.
>> YEAH, OLD HAND.
>> THANKS SO MUCH. SO I HAVE A
QUESTION FOR CENTRAL STAFF. I
JUST WANT TO CHECK SOME, SOME
FACTS HERE. IT WAS STATED THAT
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IG
THE LARGEST CUT OF ANY DEPARTME.
CAN I GET CLARIFICATION ON THATM
CENTRAL STAFF?
>> I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE THE
LARGEST GENERAL FUND CUT, AT $1.
$12 MILLION. ESTHER IS NOT IN,
SO, YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE C.
>> AND OVERALL, FOR BUDGETED
INVESTMENTS ACROSS DEPARTMENTS,
IF WE LOOK AT ALL THE FUNDING S?
FUNDING STREAMS?
>> I DON'T --
>> BUDGET INVEST -- ESTHER, I'M
SORRY, GO AHEAD.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I
DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE
PRESENTED THAT ANALYSIS YET WHEN
WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL FUNDS. I
THINK THE, THE, WHAT WAS BEING
REFERRED TO WAS WHAT WAS
PRESENTED ON TUESDAY, WHICH WAS
A LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND NET
ADDS OR CUTS.
>> OKAY. AND THEN ONE MY
CLARIFICATION, AND THEN I'M
HAPPY TO TAKE ADDITIONAL CONTACM
DIRECTOR TINGLEY. IT WAS ALSO, I
I THINK, CLARIFIED IN THE
EARLIER DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD T
THE 80 POSITIONS, THESE ARE NOT
PERMANENTLY BEING CUT FROM THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEYE
DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE JUST
PERMANENTLY BEING, QUOTE, UNDERD
QUOTE, UNDERFUNDED, IF I
UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION
BETWEEN CUTTING A POSITION
VERSUS NOT FUNDING IT. IS THAT A
THAT A DISTINCTION THAT I'M
UNDERSTANDING ACCURATELY?
>> YES.
>> OKAY. DR. TINGLEY, ANYTHING
TO ADD?
>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO
CLARIFY THAT WE WERE REALLY
INTENTIONAL WITH HOW WE BUILT
THE BUDGET AROUND SPD IN
RESPONSE TO A LOT OF THE
CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED
BEFORE MY TIME IN THIS CHAIR, BT
WITH, BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS
ADMINISTRATION AND THE COUNCIL D
COUNCIL AROUND TRANSPARENCY, AND
AND HOW THEY BUDGET. AND SO THE
FULL REDUCTION TO SPD, JUST SO
THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGES
$26 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND, ANO
AND SO -- AND MUCH OF THAT HAS
BEEN REINVESTED BACK INTO THE
DEPARTMENT. BUT WE DID, WE DID T
DID CUT BEFORE WE ADDED, AND SO
I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT
THAT IS REALLY CLEAR TO
EVERYBODY, AND THAT IS THE
LARGEST GENERAL FUND CUT.
>> OKAY,
THANKS. ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON?
YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE A QUESTION,
A QUESTION, GREG. I DON'T KNOW
IF THIS IS THE BEST SPOT TO ADD
IT, BUT JUST GENERALLY RELATED
TO PERSONNEL. WHEN I LOOK AT
APPENDIX 4 IN YOUR MATERIALS,
TABLE 1, CAN YOU TELL ME A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THE
SHIFTS IN ALLOCATION OF PATROL
PERSONNEL AND NONPERSON -- WHAT
IS THE DISTINCTION THERE THAT WE
WE SHOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THAT
APPENDIX, GIVEN THE TOTAL NUMBER
TOTAL NUMBER OF PERSONNEL THAT
WE HAVE? WAITING AT THE DEPARTM?
THE DEPARTMENT? OR GROWING AT
THE DEPARTMENT?
>> SO IN APPENDIX 4, WHAT YOU'RE
YOU'RE SEEING IS SORT OF A LOOKT
LOOK AT 2020'S ALLOCATION OF PEL
OF PERSONNEL, AND IN 2020, THATS
THAT WAS A PRE-SEPARATION TIME,
AND SO THAT WAS AN ALLOCATION OF
OF THE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL WHEN
PERSONNEL WHEN THEY WERE BETTER.
BETTER STAFFED. YOU KNOW, THAT
WAS WHEN THEY HAD OVER 1300
STAFF. AND THIS IS HOW THE CHIEF
AND 2020 CHOSE TO DISTRIBUTE
HER PERSONNEL. IN FEBRUARY OF 22
OF 2022, CHIEF DIAZ UNDERWENT AG
A REORG, AND SHIFTED SOME
RESOURCES AROUND, AND, IN DOING
SO, THERE WAS A BIT OF A
REDISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES, AND
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT MIDDLE COLUN
MIDDLE COLUMN, AND THEN IN THE
FAR RIGHT COLUMN, YOU'LL SEE
THAT, IN AUGUST 2022, HE HAS
ALIGNED THE BUDGET STRUCTURE.
AND SO THE TAKE AWAY FROM, I
THINK THE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS
, THIS SHIFTING BETWEEN THE
VARIOUS CATEGORIES OF POLICE WOK
POLICE WORK, RELATIVE TO THE
RESOURCES THAT THEY HAD IN 2020,
, AND THE RESOURCES THAT THEY
HAVE NOW, AND SORT OF AT A HIGHL
HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW, I THINK WT
MOST FOLKS KNOW IS THAT THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS
ATTEMPTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEN
THEY MAINTAIN RESPONSE TIMES AND
AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY KEEP
STAFFED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE PATL
RESPONSE. AND SO, SORT OF ABOVE
THE LINE IN PATROL PERSONNEL,
THAT HAS STAYED RELATIVELY
CONSTANT, OR HAS GROWN, AND THEN
AND THEN BELOW THE LINE OF
NON-PATROL PERSONNEL, YOU CAN SE
THAT THOSE CATEGORIES OF SWORN
PERSONNEL HAVE DECREASED SINCE
THE STAFFING SHORTAGE HAS BEGUN.
THOSE WOULD BE THE BIG TAKEAWA.
BIG TAKEAWAYS.
>> SO I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT
THE COUNCIL IS NOT IN A POSITION
A POSITION TO DIRECT HOW
PERSONNEL ARE ALLOCATED WITHIN
THE DEPARTMENT, AND COUNCILMEMBR
HERBOLD UNDERSCORED THAT POINT
EARLIER. BUT IT, THE TAKE AWAY
THAT I'M SEEING IS THAT THIS
LOOKS LIKE IT'S A, DESCRIBING AE
A FUTURE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART
THAT MOVES MORE PATROL PERSONNEL
THAT ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON PUBC
SAFETY ORIENTED WORK TO
NON-PATROL PERSONNEL POSITIONS E
POSITIONS LIKE K9 UNITS,
S.W.A.T. TEAMS, BALM RESPONSE.
IS, IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> I THINK IT'S THE OTHER -- I
THINK IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
AROUND. OVER THE, OVER THE LONG
HAUL, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE
INVESTIGATIONS, IF YOU LOOK AT E
AT THE 2020, AND YOU SEE
INVESTIGATIVE AND SPECIALTY
UNITS, AND SPECIALTY UNITS ARE
THE ONES WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO
HAVE CANINE AND BOMB. AND, AND
THE VARIOUS TYPES OF -- AND
HARBOR, AND VARIOUS OTHER TYPES
OF SPECIALTY UNITS. THEY WERE
16.2 AND 9%, RESPECTIVELY. AND
PATROL WAS 911 RESPONSE WAS 35%.
35%. AND NOW, THAT SHIFTED, AND
YOU HAVE, AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE
THE DEPARTMENT SKI RESORTS,
FEWER PEOPLE IN INVESTIGATIONS
AND SPECIALTY AND MORE PEOPLE IN
IN PATROL. SO THAT, THAT'S A
REFLECTION OF HOW THE DEPARTMENT
DEPARTMENT IS ALLOCATING ITS
RESOURCES NOW.
>> SO IT'S NOT MOVING MORE
PEOPLE INTO K9 UNIT, BALM
RESPONSE, AND S.W.A.T. PATROL.
>> WELL, IN THE BIG CATEGORIES
BETWEEN THE LOWER LINE OF
NON-PATROL AND PATROL, THINGS AE
MOVING UP. BETWEEN MOVING WITHIN
WITHIN THE INVESTIGATIVE UNITS
AND THE SPECIALTY UNITS,
OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE
THERE USE TO BE 60% IN THE
INVESTIGATIVE UNITS, AND A 9% I,
AND NOW YOU HAVE INVESTIGATIVE N
TO 12, AND SPECIALTY IS ONLY
DOWN TO EIGHT. THE SPECIALTY HAS
HAS TAKEN, AS A PERCENTAGE OF
THE TOTAL, LESS OF A CUT. IF
THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE POINT
YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING.
>> OKAY. I, YOU KNOW, I THINK
THAT WE ALL REMAIN CONCERNED
ABOUT OFFICERS BEING SHIFTED AWY
FROM RINGS LIKE INVESTIGATIONS D
INVESTIGATIONS AND APPRECIATE
THAT. I BELIEVE IN CONJUNCTION H
MAYOR HARRELL THAN THE TEAM THAT
THAT THAT WAS RIGHT, THAT WAS R.
WAS RIGHTED. AND I JUST WANTED
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT
SEEING A CHART THAT LOOKED LIKE
WE WERE MOVING FOLKS FROM A MORE
MORE PUBLIC SAFETY ORIENTED LENS
LENS TO SOMETHING THAT LOOKED LE
A MORE SPECIALTY AND, AND NOT
DAILY REQUIRED USE, LIKE
TRAINING DOGS AND AMONG THE
SWEATY MAN NOT THAT IT'S ON
IMPORTANT WORK, BUT IN TERMS OF
SAFETY ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN
RAISED BY MY COLLEAGUES, I WOULD
WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE IS A BIT
IN WANTING TO KNOW IF THE PUBLIC
PUBLIC SAFETY ORIENTED PERSONNE,
IS BEING MAINTAINED. SO THANK
YOU FOR WALKING ME THROUGH THAT.
THROUGH THAT. PATTY, THANKS FOR
GETTING US BACK ONTO THE RIGHT .
AND GETTING US BACK ON TRACK
HERE. SO LET'S KEEP GOING.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT ISSUE,
NEXT ISSUE, PATTY, THANKS, IS
THE GUN FIRE DETECTION SYSTEM.
SO THE 2023-24 PROPOSED BUT IT
WOULD FUND $1 MILLION FOR
PRODUCT COSTS TO SUPPORT THE
PLANNING, RFP, AND EVALUATION
FOR A GUN FIRE DETECTION SYSTEM,
SYSTEM, A GDS, TO PUT IN SEATTLS
WITH HIGH INCIDENCE OF GUN VIOL.
THE EXECUTIVE INDICATES THAT
THIS TECHNOLOGY WOULD PROVIDE SD
PROVIDE SPD WITH EVIDENCE
COLLECTION CAPABILITIES FOR USE
IN HOMICIDE INVESTIGATIONS AND R
INCIDENTS INVOLVING FIREARMS,
PARTICULARLY WHEN IT IS PAIRED
WITH EITHER CAMERAS OR AUTOMATED
AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER .
READER CAPABILITIES. AND SO TELL
TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
$1 MILLION. IT IS MADE UP OF
FOUR COMPONENTS. THE FIRST OF WH
OF WHICH IS 175,000 FOR A
TEMPORARY STRATEGIC ADVISER THAT
THAT WOULD COORDINATE COMMUNITYH
COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND WRITE A
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT.
COORDINATE AN RFP PROCESS, AND Y
AND EVENTUALLY WORK TO
COORDINATE THE DEPLOYMENT OF TH.
THE SYSTEM. THERE WOULD BE 300,0
FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OU.
AND OUTREACH. THERE WOULD BE
200,000 FOR RFP DEVELOPMENT, AND
AND THEN, FINALLY, THERE WOULD
BE 325,000 TO ENGAGE WITH AN EVN
RESEARCH PARTNER THAT WOULD MAKE
MAKE SURE THAT THE EVALUATION
PROGRAM IS DEVELOPED IN CONCERT
WITH THE PROGRAM OVERALL. AND SO
, COMPLETE GDS COST, GUN FIRE
DETECTION SYSTEM COSTS, MAY VARY
MAY VARY PRETTY WIDELY,
DEPENDING ON THE FUNCTIONALITY F
THE SYSTEM, AND THAT ALSO CAN BE
WIDELY VARYING. AGAIN, WHETHER
IT HAS CAMERAS, WHETHER IT HAS
AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE SYSTEM
CAPABILITIES, OR WHETHER IT
EMPLOYS A HUMAN CENTER TO REVIEE
REVIEW THE POTENTIAL SHOT FIRES.
ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS CAN
CAN IMPACT COSTS. POLICE CHIEF
MAGAZINE NOTED THAT THESE
SYSTEMS, ON AVERAGE, CAN COST UO
ABOUT $90,000 PER SQUARE MILE
THAT THEY'RE PUT IN. THE 2024
PROPOSED BUDGET ONLY PUTS IN
ABOUT 1 MILLION MORE FOR SYSTEM.
SYSTEM ACQUISITION. I'M GOING TO
TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS SYSTEM,
WHICH I DISCUSSED IN, IN LENGTHN
MY MEMO. THE U.S. THE PERMIT OFD
SECURITY HAS RECOGNIZED THE
SPEED OF LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONE
ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE AS, AS, AS
CRITICAL TO SAVING THE LIFE OF
CITIZENS IN ACTIVE SHOOTER
EVENTS. AND THE CITIZEN, THE
CITY OF DENVER HAS SAID THAT
THEY HAVE SEEN A 66 PERCENT
INCREASE IN RESPONSE TIMES, OR ,
I SHOULD SAY, IN RESPONSE TIMES,
TIMES, BETTERMENT OF RESPONSE T,
COMPARED WITH TYPICAL 911 RESPOE
WHEN THEY ARE USING A GUN FIRE
DETECTION SYSTEM, AND THAT IT
HAS HELPED THEM CAPTURE EVIDENCE
EVIDENCE IN GUN CRIMES. HOWEVER,
INDEPENDENT RESEARCH HAS SHOWN
THAT THE USE OF GUN FIRE
DETECTION SYSTEMS RARELY LEADS
TO EVIDENCE OF A GUN RELATED
CRIME OR IMPACTS GUN VIOLENCE.
THE SEATTLE CITY AUDITOR PRODUCD
A REPORT IN 2016 THAT HIGHLIGHTS
HIGHLIGHTS A NUMBER OF STUDIES
THAT CLAIMED THAT THERE WERE NO
IMPROVEMENT IN GUN-RELATED CASEN
CASE RESOLUTION, SUCH AS IN
MAKING ARRESTS OR IN PROSECUTINS
PROSECUTING SUSPECTS, AND THE
SYSTEMS DID NOT HELP OFFICERS TO
TO MAKE MORE ARRESTS, AS
SHOOTERS TENDED TO LEAVE THE
SCENE QUICKLY. THAT WAS IN 2016.
THESE FINDINGS HAVE ALSO BEEN
AFFIRMED BY NEWER STUDIES, ALL
OF WHICH ARE IN MY CENTRAL STAFF
STAFF MEMO. THERE ARE DOWNSIDES
TO DEPLOYING A GUN FIRE
DETECTION SYSTEM. EXAMINATIONS
OF THESE SYSTEMS HAVE UNCOVEREDS
WITH ADMISSIBILITY IN COURT, OR
MISUSE OF THE SYSTEM DATA IN CO.
IN COURT. THEY HAVE ELIMINATED
RACE AND SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES.
THEY HAVE HIGHLIGHTED OTHER
POTENTIALLY HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES
. JUST A NUMBER OF THOSE WOULD E
WOULD INCLUDE SPECIFICALLY
RACIALLY INEQUITABLE DEPLOYMENTD
DEPLOYMENT AND
DISPROPORTIONALITY ISSUES. WHEN
I WOULD FOCUS ON IS A CHICAGO
STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY THE OFFIE
OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL THAT
FOUND THAT THERE WERE 1366 INCIS
1366 INCIDENTS WHERE AN OFFICERD
OFFICER INDICATED IN THEIR REPOT
THEIR REPORT THAT THE FACT OF
BEING IN A GUN FIRE DETECTION
SYSTEM AREA WAS AN ELEMENT OF TE
REASONABLE SUSPICION THAT THEY
USED TO JUSTIFY AN INVESTIGATOR.
INVESTIGATORY STOP.
ADDITIONALLY, SOME SWORN
OFFICERS REPORTED PROTECTIVE PAS
PROTECTIVE PATDOWNS FOLLOWING AP
A STOP BECAUSE THEY KNEW
THEMSELVES TO BE IN AREAS WHERE
GUN FIRE DETECTION SYSTEMS WERE
FREQUENT. SOME OTHER PROBLEMS
SPD MIGHT SEE A UNDERREPORTING
OF GUNSHOTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS
THAT HAVE RECEIVED THE GUNSHOT
DETECTION TECHNOLOGY. THIS WAS
THE CASE IN A STUDY THAT WAS
DONE IN ST. LOUIS THAT FOUND
THAT 911 CALLS HAD DECLINED BY
37% WITHOUT A CORRESPONDING
DECREASE IN GUN INCIDENTS. THERE
THERE COULD BE A CHALLENGE IN
THAT WOULD REQUIRE SPD TO
COORDINATE POLICIES. AND
PROTOCOLS WITH SCHOOLS OR
CHILDCARE CENTERS OR PRESCHOOLS.
IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW
FOR SCHOOLS WHEN THEY SHOULD GO
ON LOCKDOWN. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TRIGGERING
TRIGGERING FOR THEIR STUDENTS.
NOT TO MENTION THAT A POLICE
RESPONSE TO A GUNSHOT DETECTION
SYSTEM WOULD LIKELY BE A
PRIORITY ONE CALL. IT WOULD TAX
THE CITY'S 911 SYSTEM AND PACKS
THE SPD RESPONSE SYSTEM, AND CRE
AND CREATE EMOTIONAL STAFF FOR S
FOR OFFICERS, ESPECIALLY IN
LIGHT OF THE RECENT STAFFING
SHORTAGES THAT WE HAVE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT. THE LAST THING
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE
CITY SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE. THE
THE CITY SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE
REQUIRES THAT BEFORE ACQUISITION
OF A TECHNOLOGY THAT COULD BE
CONSIDERED SURVEILLANCE, AND
SOMETHING WITH CAMERAS AND
LICENSE PLATE READERS WOULD
LIKELY BE CONSIDERED SURVEILLAN.
CONSIDERED SURVEILLANCE. THE DET
THE DEPARTMENT WOULD NEED TO
COMPLETE A SURVEILLANCE IMPACT ,
IMPACT REPORT, AND EACH ONE OF
THOSE NEEDS TO DESCRIBE
PROTOCOLS FOR HOW THE TECHNOLOGY
TECHNOLOGY IS DEPLOYED, THE
RULES OF USE, AND IN THIS CASE,
THAT WOULD BE WHEN AND HOW LIVE
OR RECORDED CAMERA FEEDS COULD
BE ACCESSED BY POLICE DEPARTMEN.
DEPARTMENT OFFICERS. IT WOULD
NEED TO IDENTIFY STORAGE
POLICIES, RETENTION POLICIES,
ACCESS TO SURVEILLANCE DATA.
CONSIDERATION OF
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTS AND
MITIGATION STRATEGIES. IT WOULD
NEED TO IDENTIFY COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT THAT SPD HAD DONE TOE
TO DETERMINE IMPACTS OF -- WITH
EFFECTIVE COMMUNITIES. AND
MITIGATION STRATEGIES. SO,
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WOULD
WOULD NEED TO BE DONE TO COMPLY
WITH THE SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE,
AND THAT SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE, BY CODE, MUST BE REVD
BE REVIEWED BY THE COMMUNITY SUE
WORKING GROUP. THEN, IT MUST BE
REVIEWED BY THE COUNCIL, AND AN
ORDINANCE MUST BE PASSED BY THE
COUNCIL THAT ACCEPTS THE S.I.R.
BEFORE THE TECHNOLOGY CAN BE
ACQUIRED. CENTRAL STAFF, WHO
WORK ON SURVEILLANCE ISSUES,
THINK IT'S EXTREMELY UNLIKELY TT
UNLIKELY THAT ALL OF THAT CAN BE
BE DONE IN THE 12 MONTHS THAT IT
IT WOULD TAKE TO -- THAT THE
EXECUTIVE PROPOSES THAT IT WOUL-
SPEND THE $1 MILLION THAT IS
BEING REQUESTED IN THE BUDGET.
DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, THE
EXECUTIVE HAS SAID THAT THEY
PLAN TO CONDUCT THE COMMUNITY
OUTREACH FOR THE S.I.R.. THAT
THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE RFP SO
THAT THEY CAN COST OUT THE
S.I.R.. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
THE COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO KNOW.
THEN FINALLY, THAT THEY WOULD VW
WOULD VIEW FINAL ACQUISITION AND
AND DEPLOYMENT OF THE S.I.R.,
OR FINAL ACQUISITION OF THE
SYSTEM LATE IN 23 AFTER THE
COUNCIL HAD APPROVED IT. THAT AS
THAT ASSUMES COUNCIL APPROVAL.
THEN, AS I SAID, THEY WOULD HAVE
MONEY BUDGETED FOR AN EVALUATI.
AN EVALUATION. SO, PATTY WOULD
YOU FLIP THE SLIDE PLEASE? SO I
WENT THROUGH A LOT OF STUFF, BUT
BUT THE OPTIONS BEFORE YOU ARE
TO REMOVE THE SYSTEM ITSELF. TOE
TO REMOVE 325,000 FOR THE
EVALUATION RESEARCH PARTNER, NOT
NOT LIKELY NEEDED UNTIL 2024. I
HAD SAID THAT IT IS HIGHLY UNLIY
HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THE
EXECUTIVE COULD GET THAT S.I.R.
PRODUCED AND THROUGH THE COUNCIL
COUNCIL PROCESS IN TIME TO MAKE
MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT
WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD NEED
AN EVALUATION. SO, ONE OPTION
FOR THE COUNCIL WOULD BE TO
REMOVE THAT 325,000, TO WAIT AND
AND SEE IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES
THE EXECUTIVE'S POLICIES --
PRIVACY PROTECTION POLICIES FOR
SUCH A SYSTEM AND ALLOWS
ACQUISITION OF SUCH A SYSTEM.
AND THE LAST OPTION WOULD BE NO.
NO CHANGE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON
THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT JUAREZ.
>> THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE TWO
QUICK QUESTIONS. WHAT YEAR WAS
THE CHICAGO STUDY?
>> I BELIEVE THE CHICAGO STUDY
WAS LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFOR.
YEAR BEFORE.
>> OKAY THAT'S ONE. THE SECOND
QUESTION I HAVE, SO YOU ARE SAYG
ARE SAYING IS THERE'S A STUDY
EITHER IN 2021 OR 20 THAT POLICE
POLICE OFFICERS WERE USING THE
GUNFIRE DETECTION SYSTEM AS
PROBABLE CAUSE?
>> PRESUMABLE SUSPICION, YES.
>>
>> OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU. YEAH, JUST CONFIRG
JUST CONFIRMING IT WAS THE
CHICAGO REPORT WAS IN 2021. OUR
OWN CITY AUDITOR ALSO DID A REVW
A REVIEW OF THREE INDEPENDENT S.
INDEPENDENT STUDIES. THAT WAS A
FEW YEARS PRIOR TO THAT. I
REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
MAYOR HARRELL HAS RIGHTLY
IDENTIFIED GUN VIOLENCE AS A
MAJOR ISSUE FACING SEATTLE THAT
REQUIRES URGENT ACTION. THERE IS
IS NO DISPUTES THERE. IN MY CONS
MY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE PROP,
THE PROPOSAL, THERE IS AN UNDERG
THAT THIS KIND OF TECHNOLOGY IST
IS NOT A VIOLENCE PREVENTION
TOOL, BUT RATHER A BELIEF THAT
IT IS A TOOL THAT HAS HELPED THN
THE PROSECUTION OF PEOPLE
ENGAGED IN GUN VIOLENCE. AGAIN,
OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT NOT OY
NOT ONLY DOES A 2021 PEER REVIEY
REVIEW STUDY OF SHOTS FIRED IN 8
IN 68 DIFFERENT U.S. COUNTIES,
SHOWED NO REDUCTION IN FIREARM ,
FIREARM HOMICIDES, IT ALSO DOES
NOT SHOW A REDUCTION IN ARRESTS
OR WEAPONS. ARRESTS. SO, I
REALLY AM HOPING THAT WE -- AND
FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON -- ON --
TRYING TO IDENTIFY THINGS THAT
WE KNOW ARE EFFECTIVE IN BOTH
GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND
STRESSING THE NEED TO REDUCE
RECURRING CYCLES OF GUN VIOLENC.
GUN VIOLENCE. AND I JUST WANT TO
TO FLAG THAT IN JULY IN MY
COMMITTEE, WE INVITED KING
COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH TO COME ANT
AND PRESENT ON THE REGIONAL
EFFORT TO ADDRESS GUN VIOLENCE.H
VIOLENCE. WHICH SEATTLE IS A
PARTICIPANT AND WE HAVE -- WE
HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME WITH
INVESTMENTS THROUGH THE REGIONAL
PEACEKEEPERS COLLABORATIVE. AND
AND ONE OF THE INTERVENTIONS IS
THE HARBORVIEW MEDICAL CENTER HL
CENTER HOSPITAL BASE
INTERVENTION. WE LEARNED BACK IN
IN JULY THAT THERE IS A NEED TOD
TO EXPAND THIS PARTICULAR INTERN
PARTICULAR INTERVENTION THAT HAS
HAS BEEN SHOWING GREAT OUTCOMES
FOR FOLKS UNDER 25 TO EXPAND THE
THE AGE RANGES TO SERVE FOLKS
WHO ARE AGES 25 TO 40. WHERE WE
ARE SEEING THAT'S THE AREA WHERE
WHERE WE ARE SEEING SUCH
INCREASE AND UPTAKE IN GUN VIOL.
AND AGAIN, THE IDEA IS BY HAVING
HAVING SOMEBODY AT THE HOSPITAL
WHO INTERVENES WITH BOTH VICTIMS
OF GUN VIOLENCE, AND THE FAMILS
FAMILY MEMBERS OF VICTIMS OF GU.
YOU CAN STOP THE CYCLE OF THE ET
THE ELEMENT OF RETRIBUTION WITH
GUN VIOLENCE. I WAS IN A PANEL
DISCUSSION YESTERDAY WITH FOLKS
FROM KING COUNTY, AND IT WAS
SAID VERY EFFECTIVELY -- AND OU-
OUR -- THAT INTERVENTION IS
REALLY FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE
THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE HURT DO NOT
CONTINUE TO HURT OTHER PEOPLE. I
, AGAIN, GOOD OUTCOMES THAT ARE
SUPPORTED BY AN ANALYSIS OF THE
YOUNGER COHORT THAT WE CAN WORK
ON TRYING TO REPLICATE IN THIS
AREA WHERE THERE IS A CLEAR GAP.
THAT IS NOT GOING ADDRESSED,
THAT REALLY IS OF GREAT URGENCY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HER.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD. I ECHOED
THOSE CONCERNS. I APPRECIATE YOU
YOU AIRING THAT DATA AND GREG,
THANK YOU FOR SHARING BOAST OF
THE STUDIES YOU ARE LOOKING AT
ACROSS THE SPECTRUM. THAT IS
VERY HELPFUL FROM THE NONPARTISN
THE NONPARTISAN PERSPECTIVE. WE
APPRECIATE CENTRAL STAFF'S
ANALYSIS ON THIS. COUNCILMEMBER.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> SO, I APPRECIATE WHAT WE ARE
DOING RIGHT NOW WITH THE PEACEK.
THE PEACEKEEPERS. I THINK THAT E
ARE ADDING 1.5 TO AN ALREADY
EXISTING 17 MILLION BUDGET. I
DON'T KNOW THE APPORTIONMENT
BETWEEN SEATTLE AND KING COUNTY.
WE STILL HAVE THE COMMUNITY IN,
COMMUNITY INITIATIVE, BUT THE
POINT THAT GUN VIOLENCE IS GOING
GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
IT'S GOING UP. SO TO ME -- IF
YOU WILL INDULGE ME A BIT,
RESPOND TO SOME OF THE POINTS
THAT ARE MADE IN THE MEMO ABOUT
SHOT SPOTTER. I WANTED TO ACKNOE
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS --
THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR A GDS.
SYSTEM NOT SHOTS SPOTTER PER SE.
THERE ARE MANY OTHER SYSTEMS
OUT THERE. THE MEMO SAYS THAT
THE CHICAGO STUDY FOUND
INSTANCES WHERE INVESTIGATORY
STOPS WERE ASSOCIATED WITH SHOTS
SHOTS FIRED, BUT NOT MATCHED TOY
TO ANY OF THE 50,000 IDENTIFIED
ALERTS. BUT THE CHICAGO STUDY
DID SAY ALERTS DIDN'T INDICATE
ACTUAL ON GUNFIRE. THE INSPECTOR
INSPECTOR GENERAL SAID QUOTE,
OUR STUDY IS NOT ABOUT
TECHNOLOGICAL ACCURACY AND SHE
ACKNOWLEDGED QUOTE, IT'S
ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT EVERYONE
OF THE 50,000 ALERTS CORRECTLY
IDENTIFIED THE SOUND OF GUNFIRE.
WHILE WE ARE DOING STUDIES OUT
THERE, ANOTHER INDEPENDENT STUDY
STUDY BY EDGEWORTH ANALYTICS,
WHICH IS A DATA SCIENCE FIRM IN,
IN DC, THEY FOUND THAT THE
TECHNOLOGY CAN BE ACCURATE UP TO
TO 97% OF THE TIME. SO, IT
REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT STUDY YOU
YOU ARE READING. REGARDING THE
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST
CHICAGO, WE JUST HAVE TO
REMEMBER THAT THAT WAS -- THAT
WAS NOT ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY,
THAT WAS ABOUT THE MISUSE. THE S
THE ALLEGATIONS THAT POLICE
MISUSED DATA. SO WE ARE NOT
TALKING ABOUT POLICE BEHAVIOR
HERE, THIS IS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY
WE ARE TRYING TO -- DEBATE AND
ANOTHER POINT IS THE AP ARTICLE,
ARTICLE, THE MEMO STATES THAT
THERE IS AN AP ARTICLE ALLEGING
THAT SHOT SPOTTER EMPLOYEES MADE
MADE IMPROPER CLAIMS IN COURT
THAT THE AP HAD TO ISSUE A
CORRECTION TO THAT ARTICLE
NOTING THAT IT CONTAINED A
NUMBER OF MISSTATEMENTS AND FAL.
AND FALSEHOODS. THE CORRECTION
NOTES THAT THE JUDGE IN THE CASE
CITED REVERSE COURSE AND
ADMITTED THE SHOT SPOTTER
EVIDENCE AND SHOT SPOTTER SAID
IT IS EVIDENCE AND EXPERT
WITNESS TESTIMONY HAD BEEN
ADMITTED IN OVER 200 COURT CASES
CASES IN 20 STATES. THE MEMO
CITES A STUDY FROM THE JOURNAL
OF URBAN HEALTH TO CLAIM THAT
SHOT SPOTTER CLAIMS TO
UNDERREPORTING OF GUNSHOTS. THAT
THAT STUDY WAS CLEARLY FLOODED
BECAUSE IT MEASURED LARGE AREAS
OUTSIDE OF SHOT SPOTTER'S COVER.
SPOTTER'S COVERAGE. YOU SEE
WHERE I AM GOING THERE. IN
ADDITION, THE MEMO SAYS WE
SHOULD DEPLOY SHOT SPOTTER
BECAUSE IT MIGHT DETECT GUNFIRE
THAT CAUSES SCHOOL LOCKDOWNS.
LAST WEEK, OR MAYBE IT WAS A
COUPLE DAYS AGO, I RECEIVED AN
EMAIL FROM THE PARENT OF A CHILT
CHILD AT JOHN STANFORD WHO IS
HAVING SOME TRAUMA ABOUT THE
GUNFIRE THAT OCCURRED LAST WEEKD
LAST WEEKEND OR WEEKEND BEFORE
OR SO. SO, YES, THERE'S TRAUMA
ALL AROUND. IT IS CAUSED BY GUN.
GUN VIOLENCE. FINALLY, WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT THAT IT WOULD TAX OUR
TAX OUR FIRST RESPONDERS SYSTEM
AND CREATE EMOTIONAL STRESS FOR
SPD OFFICERS. I RECOGNIZE THAT'-
THAT'S -- THAT IS ALSO A
POSSIBILITY, HOWEVER THIS SEEMS
TO BE SOMETHING THAT SPD IS
WANTING THAT THE MAYOR IS PROPO,
AND IT'S BEEN ON THE TABLE
BEFORE AND HAS HAD THE SUPPORT
OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED BY GUN
VIOLENCE. SO, BOTTOM LINE IS,
EVEN IF SHOT SPOTTER SAVED THE E
THE LIFE BY ALLOWING AN OFFICER
TO RESPOND MORE QUICKLY, I THINK
THINK THAT IF ANY OF US WITH A
LOVED ONE OF THAT PERSON, WE
WOULD BE HAPPY THAT WE ARE SENDG
$1 MILLION ON THIS. BECAUSE LIFE
LIFE IS PRECIOUS AND PRICELESS.
I JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT
THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JUST
ANOTHER TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX TO
ADDRESS AN ISSUE THAT IS NOT
GETTING ANY BETTER. IT IS ONLY
GETTING WORSE.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. WE DO NEED
NEED TO WRAP THIS UP. I WAS
MESSAGING WITH CENTRAL STAFF. WE
WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET THIS
WRAPPED UP IN THE NEXT FIVE
MINUTES. I KNOW WE ONLY HAVE TWO
TWO MORE SLIDES, BUT FOR THE PUS
THE PURPOSES OF WRAPPING UP THIS
THIS DISCUSSION, I WILL JUST NOE
JUST NOTE THAT THE COMMENTS THAT
THAT WERE JUST MADE ABOUT THE
ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS CITED WAS
FROM THE EDGEWORTH ANALYTICS
STUDY COMMISSIONED IN 2021.
WHICH WAS ACTUALLY A STUDY
COMMISSIONED BY SHOT SPOTTER. MY
MY TEAM HAD A SUPER INFORMATIVE
CALL WITH FOLKS OVER IN CAMPAIG,
CAMPAIGN BUREAU, WHICH IS A GUN
VIOLENCE PREVENTION
ORGANIZATION. I WANTED TO FLAG A
A PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT THIS
THIS ORGANIZATION GAVE US. WHAT
SHOT SPOTTER REPORTS ARE THERE
ACCURACY AND FALSE POSITIVE
RATES IS UNRELIABLE. THEY ASSUME
ASSUME EVERY SINGLE ALERT THEY H
THEY PUBLISH IS A GUNSHOT UNLESS
UNLESS AN OFFICER GOES OUT OF
THEIR WAY TO REPORT TO SHOT
SPOTTER THAT IT WAS WRONG.
OFFICERS ARE NOT TRAINED TO DO .
DO THAT. OFFICERS ARE ONLY TOLD
TO REPORT GUNSHOTS THAT DON'T
HAVE AN ALERT, OR THE LOCATIONS-
LOCATIONS -- OR THE LOCATION WA,
WAS WRONG, BUT NOT FALSE POSITI.
FALSE POSITIVES. I JUST WANTED
TO FLAG THAT. I THOUGHT THIS WAS
WAS ALARMING. I LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING THIS DISCUSSION
THAT'S TURNING MORE INTO A DEBA.
A DEBATE. I'M GOING TO TRY TO
KEEP US IN THE DISCUSSION CATEG,
DISCUSSION CATEGORY, BUT WE WILL
WILL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AND
DEBATE ABOUT THIS AND LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF
YOU TO ADDRESS HOW WE MOVE
FORWARD. THIS IS STARTING TO
BLEED OVER INTO SOME OF OUR
CONVERSATION ABOUT -- THAT'S THE
THE WRONG TERM RIGHT NOW. THIS
IS STARTING TO EMERGE OVER INTO
A DISCUSSION ABOUT ALTERNATIVE
SYSTEMS SO THIS IS GOOD. WE WILL
WILL FINISH THE REST OF THIS
PRESENTATION AND GO ON TO
TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION
ENTER TO ROUND OUT OUR
DISCUSSION ABOUT ALTERNATIVES
THAT ARE OR ARE NOT INCLUDED IN
THIS BUDGET. GREG, IT IS YOUR
TURN TO TAKE US THROUGH, AND IF
YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO
TO THAT DISCUSSION, WE WILL COME
COME TO YOU BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE
TWO MORE SLIDES.
>> NO, THE ONLY THING I WAS
GOING TO POINT OUT ON THE LAST
DISCUSSION IS THE POINT THAT I
WAS MAKING IN THE PRESENTATION
IS NOT ONE OF HOW MANY OF THE SS
THE SHOTS ARE ACCURATE. THE
POINT THAT IS BEING MADE IS THAT
THAT IF THE GOAL IS TO -- IF THE
THE GOAL OF THE SYSTEM IS TO AID
AID IN DETECTION OF GUN CRIME AD
CRIME AND COULD GATHER EVIDENCE,
EVIDENCE, AND TO HELP WITH
PROSECUTION, THE CHICAGO STUDY,
REGARDLESS OF THE 50,000,
WHETHER THAT WAS ACCURATE OR
NOT, FOUND VERY FEW TIMES --
WELL, 4000 TO BE SPECIFIC. 4500
AND SOME WHERE THERE WAS
EVIDENCE OF A GUN CRIME THAT WAS
WAS FOUND. SO, THAT'S THE SPECIC
THE SPECIFIC SALIENT PIECE OF IN
OF INFORMATION TO EVALUATE WHEN
YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT
THE SYSTEM WILL PRODUCE THE
RESULTS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FO.
LOOKING FOR. SO THAT WAS MY
POINT WITH THAT PARTICULAR PIECE
PIECE OF INFORMATION. BUT REGARG
BUT REGARDING THE -- I'LL STOP.
>> WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE ON.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE ON. WE
WILL HAVE MORE CONVERSATION
ABOUT SHOT SPOTTER FOR SURE. I
APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVES THAT
THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED AND THE
ANALYSIS FROM CENTRAL STAFF.
LET'S WRAP THIS SECTION UP SO WE
WE CAN GET ONTO THE
COMMUNICATION.
>> THE SALARY SAVINGS PROVISO.
THE 2022 -- THE 2022 ADOPTED
BUDGET HAS A SALARY SAVINGS
PROVISO THAT RESTRICTS SPD'S
ABILITY TO EXTEND ITS SALARY
SAVINGS WITHOUT A FUTURE LIFT BY
BY THE COUNCIL. IT IS THE CASE T
CASE THAT, AS YOU KNOW, THERE
HAVE BEEN 100 -- WELL IT'S
PREDICTED THAT THERE'S GOING TO
BE 153 SEPARATIONS THIS YEAR.
THAT SPD IS ASSUMING THAT THAT
WILL AMOUNT TO ABOUT $10 MILLION
MILLION IN SALARY SAVINGS. ON --
AT THE AUGUST PUBLIC SAFETY AND
AND HUMAN SERVICES MEETING,
AUGUST 16, 2022, THE COMMITTEE D
COMMITTEE RECEIVED A BRIEFING
FROM CENTRAL STAFF AND FROM SPD
ON HOW IT PLANS TO USE ITS
SALARY SAVINGS. THAT WAS IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE BRIEFING ON
ON THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTIO.
RETENTION ORDINANCE. AND THAT BG
THAT BRIEFING, THE PUBLIC SAFETY
SAFETY AND HUMAN SERVICES
COMMITTEE HER THAT ROUGHLY THERE
THERE IS GOING TO BE SPENDING
SUCH THAT THERE WOULD BE THREE
.2 MILLION SPENT ON SP IN MAY.
ABOUT ANOTHER 3 MILLION SPENT ON
ON AND ANTICIPATED BENEFITS.
THREE OR SO MILLION SPENT ON
OVERTIME AND THEN OF COURSE 1.8
ON RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION AC.
RETENTION ACTIVITIES. SO, WITH
THAT AS AN UPDATE, CENTRAL STAFF
AND SPD AT THE TIME SAID THAT
THE ONLY WAY THAT SPD WOULD MAKE
ITS BUDGET AT THE END OF THE
YEAR IS IF THAT SALARY SAVINGS
PROVISO WAS LIFTED SO THAT SPD
WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF ITS
SALARY SAVINGS TO BE ABLE TO
COVER THOSE ITEMS THAT I JUST
MENTIONED. THERE WAS, ATTACHED
TO THE CENTRAL STAFF MEMO, A
RATHER DETAILED REPORT BY SPD
SHOWING HOW THEY HAD SPENT THE E
THE THREE SOME MILLION IN
OVERTIME FUNDING, AS WELL AS
SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT I
COVERED. SO NOW, NOW WE ARE AT
THAT POINT. THE COUNCIL IS AT
THAT POINT IN THE YEAR WHERE
THEY WOULD NEED TO RELEASE THE
SALARY SAVINGS PROVISO IN THE
YEAR END SUPPLEMENTAL. SO, THAT
IS THE DECISION BEFORE YOU, IS
TO RELEASE -- PATTY IF YOU COULD
COULD FLIP ONE MORE. THE FIRST
OPTION WOULD BE TO RELEASE THAT
PROVISO AND ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT
TO SPEND ITS SALARY SAVINGS ON
THOSE ITEMS THAT I MENTIONED THE
THE SECOND WOULD BE NO CHANGE.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD LET THE
COMMITTEE KNOW IS THAT WITHOUT A
A LIFT OF THAT PROVISO, THE DEPT
THE DEPARTMENT WOULD -- WOULD
INCUR AN EXCEPTION. WOULD NOT
MAKE THEIR BUDGET THIS YEAR. SO
THAT'S ALL I HAD ON THIS SLIDE.
>> ALL RIGHT, GREG, YOU GOT
THROUGH IT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS ABOUT THESES
THESE OPTIONS? THESE LAST ISSUES
ISSUES THAT ARE BEING IDENTIFIE?
BEING IDENTIFIED? ALL RIGHT. I'M
I'M NOT SEEING ANY, GREG. I
WOULD JUST SAY -- I CAN -- IF
YOU CAN GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE,
PATTY, THANK YOU. I CONTINUE TO
BE FRUSTRATED BY THE EXCUSE OF
WHAT DEPARTMENTS CONSIDER TO BEE
BE APPROPRIATE FOR BUDGET
EXCEPTIONS ORDINANCE. WE'VE DONE
DONE A LOT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS
YEARS TO TRY TO TEMPER DOWN OR
CLAMPDOWN ON THE USE OF BUDGET S
BUDGET EXCEPTIONS AS A WAY TO
JUST BACKFILL FUNDING THAT HAS
ALREADY BEEN SPENT. SPECIFIC TO
SPD, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SPENDING
WITHIN THE LIMITS THAT THEY HAVE
HAVE BEEN GIVEN. IS THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT
COULD ROUND OUT WHAT IS BEING
CONSIDERED EXTRAORDINARY
BUDGETING NEEDS, AND I WOULD NOE
NOT ASSUME THAT OVERTIME IS
BEING CONSIDERED IN THIS
EXTRAORDINARY BUDGETING NEED
GIVEN THAT -- THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT CAN BE PREDICTED AND WE
ALSO ARE STILL, UNFORTUNATELY,
IN A POSITION OF TRYING TO, I'ME
THAT THE EXECUTIVE WILL AGREE
WITH ME, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW WE CAN MOVE MORE OFFICERS
AWAY FROM SPECIAL EVENTS THAT
ARE REQUIRING A LOT OF OVERTIME
HOURS RIGHT NOW. SO, THAT EFFORT
EFFORT HAS BEEN VERY FRUSTRATIN,
BUT I JUST WANT US TO CONTINUE O
CONTINUE TO MOVE IN A POSITION
THAT DOESN'T ASSUME THAT BUDGETS
BUDGET EXCEPTIONS ORDINANCES
WILL BE PASSED. I'M GOING TO GUS
TO GUESS WHAT THE EXECUTIVE
WOULD SAY, IS THAT THIS IS BEIND
BEING PROPOSED SO THAT YOU DON'T
DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR AN
EXCEPTIONS ORDINANCE. BUT AGAIN,
AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT,
THAT WE, WHEN BUDGETS ARE
ALLOCATED, THE DEPARTMENTS ARE
STAYING WITHIN THOSE BUDGETS,
UNLESS IT'S TRULY EXTRAORDINARY.
BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO FOLKS
TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I JUST
WONDERED IF COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD HAD ANYTHING TO AND TO
THAT ISSUE.
>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT
OUR PRIOR ADJUSTMENT TO THE
PROJECT PROVISO. WHICH MY
RECOLLECTION IS, ALTHOUGH ADMITY
ALTHOUGH ADMITTEDLY IT IS FUZZY,
WE DID EARLIER THIS YEAR, I
THINK I HAD TO TAKE TWO TRIES AT
AT IT TO DO SO SUCCESSFULLY. BUT
BUT IT WAS DESIGNED TO ALLOW SPD
TO USE ITS SALARY SAVINGS FOR S
FOR ITEMS THAT THE COUNCIL
AGREED WERE PRIORITIES. IF YOU
COULD REMIND US, GREG, THE AMOU,
THE AMOUNT, AND THE ITEMS THAT
THAT WAS FOR. I JUST WANT TO
MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT
DUPLICATION IN WHAT WE ARE
HEARING NOW.
>> NO, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
IT WAS 1.8 MILLION, AND IT WAS
FOR THE ITEMS THAT WERE IN
ORDINANCE 126654, THE
RECRUITMENT ORDINANCE. AND IT
WAS FOR THE HIRING BONUSES THAT
WOULD BE GIVEN TO RECRUITS
COMING IN THROUGH THE REST OF
THE YEAR. AS WELL AS HIRING
ADDITIONAL STAFF AT THE HUMAN
RESOURCE DEPARTMENT TO AID IN
THE HIRING OF NEW OFFICERS, BAC,
, BACKGROUNDED, MARKETING. ALSO
THERE WAS -- THERE WAS SOME ROOM
ROOM FOR POTENTIAL SPENDING ON
RELOCATION COSTS. THE ENTIRE
PACKAGE ROLLED UP TO 1.8
MILLION. SO, THERE WAS THAT BILL
BILL GIVES THEM THE AUTHORITY TO
TO SPEND THEIR SALARY SAVINGS ON
ON THAT PIECE OF IT ALONE.
>> OKAY, AND SO MY -- I WAS
THINK ABOUT ANOTHER PROVISO AND
I THINK MAYBE THAT WAS IN 2021.
THAT WAS ANOTHER PROVISO LIFT
DESIGNED TO FIND THINGS THAT THE
THE COUNCIL AGREED ON. SO, I AM.
AM CONFLATING. AS A RELATES
SPECIFICALLY TO THIS PROPOSED
ONE, CAN YOU HELP UNDERSTAND
SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO
THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION E,
RETENTION ELEMENT, DOES THAT
CLASSIFY THE LIFT -- WHAT WAS PD
WAS PROPOSED? WHY IS IT BEING
REPLICATED HERE?
>> I'M SORRY, I'M NOT FOLLOWING
YOUR QUESTION. CAN YOU SAY IT
AGAIN?
>> SO, THIS -- THERE IS A
REQUEST FOR A FULL PROVISO LIFT
FOR 2022 SALARY SAVINGS.
TOTALING IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A
TOTAL OF AN ADDITIONAL $10 MILL.
$10 MILLION. WHY IS IT -- WHY IS
ONE OF THE USES OF THAT THE RET
THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
ELEMENT?
>> YEAH, SO -- SO -- PATTY COULD
COULD YOU FLIP BACK TO THE LAST
SLIDE PLEASE? THANK YOU. SO, THP
THE TOP BULLET THERE, ORDINANCE,
ORDINANCE 126654, I SHOULD HAVET
HAVE PUT THAT THE 1.8 MILLION,
ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT BG
BY LIFTING THE ENTIRE PROVISO --
WHAT YOU HAD DONE IN THE
LEGISLATION WAS AUTHORIZE UP TO
1.8 MILLION. BY LIFTING THE
ENTIRE PROVISO, CROSSING IT OUT
OF THE BUDGET, GETTING RID OF I,
OF IT, IT WILL ALLOW THEM TO
SPEND THEIR SALARY SAVINGS ON
ALL FOUR OF THESE BULLETS. BY
DOING THAT, THEY CAN STAY IN BA.
IN BALANCE. WHAT THEY HAVE HERE
WITH THESE FOUR BULLETS, IF YOU
WERE TO ADD IN THE 1.8 THAT I
LEFT OUT THERE ON THE TOP, WOULD
WOULD BE $10 MILLION WORTH OF N.
OF NEED. THAT'S ABOUT WHAT THEY
HAVE IN SALARY SAVINGS.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'M SORRY. I'M
JUST NOT -- IT'S NOT TRACKING. I
I THOUGHT WE FUNDED THE NEED
ASSOCIATED WITH --
>> YOU DID, YOU GAVE THEM. YOU
RELEASED 1.8 MILLION, SO THAT
IMMEDIATELY GAVE THEM 1.8
MILLION OF SALARY SAVINGS AUTHOY
SAVINGS AUTHORITY TO SPEND. AND
NOW THEY NEED THE REST. SO,
INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM SPECIFIC
úLINE ITEM AUTHORITY FOR
EVERYTHING ELSE THEY NEED, THE
SUGGESTION HERE IS JUST THAT YOU
YOU WOULD ELIMINATE THE PROVISO
AND LET THEM SPEND THE ENTIRETY
OF THEIR SALARY SAVINGS TO
BALANCE THEIR BUDGET, WHICH IS
ABOUT -- I MEAN IT IS FOR THESE
THINGS.
>> LET'S HAVE A CLARIFICATION
FROM THE DIRECTOR AND THEN WE
ARE GOING TO CLOSE THIS OUT.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO
TO MAKE IT QUICK. GREG HAS DONE
INCREDIBLE ANALYSIS, AS PER
USUAL. THANK YOU, GREG. WE WANT
TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT THIS
WILL -- DOING THIS WILL ALLOW US
US TO AVOID BUDGET EXCEPTIONS.
THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS NOT FOR
LACK OF EFFORT OR FOR LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY. WE TRANSMITTED THT
THE BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER, AND WE
LET YOU ALL KNOW IN SORT OF
MID-SEPTEMBER THAT THIS WAS
LIKELY TO BE COMING. WE HAVE
BEEN WORKING A LOT THROUGHOUT
THE YEAR, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS
THERE'S A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP TO
TO THE STAFFING LEVEL AND THE
OVERTIME USAGE. SO, I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE I DRIVE THAT HOME
FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE THE FEWER
OFFICERS WE HAVE THE MORE WE
HAVE TO RELY ON OVERTIME. THIS
ISN'T GOING TO BE AN ISSUE THAT
GOES AWAY FOR US. SO WHAT WE HAE
WE HAVE IN THE 2023 PROPOSED
BUDGET IS A PLAN. IF WE WERE TO
GET THAT PLAN WRONG, BY ONE OFF,
ONE OFFICER, OR 12 OFFICERS. WE
ARE GOING TO NEED TO ADJUST THE
AMOUNT BETWEEN SALARIES AND OVE.
AND OVERTIME. SO THOSE TWO
THINGS ARE RELATED, AND I JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PART
PART IS CLEAR, AND I'M SORRY IF
WE HAVE BEEN UNCLEAR UP UNTIL
NOW. ON THAT, BUT THOSE TWO
PIECES ARE -- THEY ARE TWO SIDES
SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. BECAUSE
OF THE PROVISO, WE HAVE HAD TO
COME TO YOU TO GET THAT LIFTED
TO BE ABLE TO SPEND IT ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN. SO,
THAT I THINK IS WHAT IS NEWER
ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION IS
BECAUSE OF HOW TIGHTLY THAT IS
WRITTEN. THAT'S WHY YOU ARE
SEEING IT HERE. TYPICALLY THEY
WOULD HAVE SAID WE ARE DOWN ON
STAFFING SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
HAVE TO SPEND IT ON OVERTIME,
AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY
NECESSARILY BEEN THE SUBJECT OF
CONVERSATION. I HOPE THAT THAT
HELPS CLARIFY.
>> GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER.
>> OVERTIME IS THE ONE SEGMENT
OF THIS SCENARIO HERE THAT I
DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS ON.
>> I JUST RUINED EVERYTHING,
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> NO, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND, ARE
ARE WE ANTICIPATING THAT WE WILD
WILL SPEND ALL OF THE
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION FUNDS
THAT WE ALREADY PERMITTED SBD TE
TO USE IN ORDINANCE 1266 54, AND
AND THAT THAT IS NOT ENOUGH?
BECAUSE WE ARE HIRING SO MANY
PEOPLE, THAT'S THE PIECE I DON'T
DON'T UNDERSTAND. I THOUGHT WE
SUFFICIENTLY FUNDED THE HIRING S
HIRING BONUSES THROUGH THE END
OF THE YEAR. ALSO ON THE CONTRA,
THE CONTRACT, I THOUGHT I REMEMD
I REMEMBERED THAT THEY WERE
PLANNING RESERVES SUFFICIENT FOR
FOR THAT ONE.
>> ON THOSE TWO ITEMS, THOSE ARE
ARE NOT CHANGING. THOSE ARE THE
SAME AS THEY WERE IN THE
CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD WHEN
YOU PASSED THE PREVIOUS PROVISO
LIST. NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON
THOSE. SO THERE'S NO MORE MONEY
NEEDED FOR THE RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION PLAN, AND IT IS STILL
THE CASE THAT WE ARE USING
SALARY SAVINGS INSTEAD OF A
PLANNING RESERVES TO HANDLE THIS
FEMA CONTRACT ISSUE. SO NONE OF
OF THAT PART HAS CHANGED. I
THINK WHAT GREG IS ENDEAVORING
TO DO HERE IS SHOW YOU THE FULL
PICTURE OF HOW ALTHOUGH SALARY
SAVINGS HAVE GONE TO USE IN THIS
THIS YEAR, SO IT JUST ROUNDS OUT
OUT THAT 3 MILLION AT THE BOTTOM
BOTTOM IS REALLY ROUNDING OUT
THE USE.
>> OKAY, WE NEED TO KEEP GOING.
DIRECTOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ?
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S ENOUGH, O.
ENOUGH, OKAY. >
>> I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE
MORE CONVERSATIONS TO COME ON
THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS'
QUESTIONS GET FULLY ANSWERED AND
AND THAT WE ALL HAVE A
UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE
CURRENT FUNDING FROM THIS YEAR'S
YEAR'S RELEASE OF THE PROVISO
HAVE ALREADY GONE BEFORE. MOVING
MOVING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING
ELSE, JULIE, THANKS FOR HANGING
OUT WITH US. WE ARE GOING TO GO
TO THE LAST ONE.
>
>> COLLEAGUES, WE DO WANT TO TRY
TRY TO END BY 5:00, BUT THIS IS
A BIG PRESENTATION AS WELL. JUST
JUST LOOKING AT YOU ALL TO SEE
IF THERE IS A HARD STOP AT 5:00.
5:15, 5:30. CAN PEOPLE HANG ON
THE LINE FOR THAT? I KNOW I AM
SOLO PARENTING TONIGHT SO I NEED
NEED TO GO TO DAY CARE AROUND
5:30. NO LATER.
└> I COULD HANG ON.
>> OKAY. OKAY. THAT MEANS A LOT,
LOT, THANKS SO MUCH. WE WILL TRY
TRY AND GO THROUGH THIS WITH EX,
WITH EXPEDIENCY, BUT ALSO MAKING
MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE GET
THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. SO I
WANT TO THANK YOU ALL, MADAME
CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE GO ON TO
TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
>> AGENDA ITEM 4, COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND COMMUNICATION CENTER
PRODUCING AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAME
CLERK. COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE WITH
US -- ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK
BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG
AFTERNOON. WE HAVE WITH US, I
BELIEVE, YES, SENIOR DEPUTY
MAYOR, HELLO, THANKS AGAIN FOR
HANGING OUT WITH US. SENIOR
DEPUTY MAYOR ON THE LINE WITH US
US AS WELL AS THE TEAM FROM THE
COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS
CENTER INCLUDING THE INTERIM DI.
INTERIM DIRECTOR. AND ALSO
ANOTHER PERSON. I WANT TO THANKU
FOR BEING WITH US, AND THE
CENTRAL STAFF PRESENTERS WE HAVE
HAVE NOT YET HAD A CHANCE TO SEE
SEE AND HEAR FROM AND GORMAN.
SHE IS GOING TO BE ALONG WITH US
US ALONG WITH ANOTHER ONE TODAY.
THANKS FOR THE TWO PANELISTS,
OR TWO SETS OF PANELISTS FOR
BEING HERE WITH US TODAY. AGAIN,
AGAIN, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD,
HAPPY TO HAVE YOU MAKE SOME
INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS IF YOU
WOULD LIKE.
>> I'LL MAKE THIS SUPERQUICK, I
WANT TO THANK THE INTERIM
DIRECTOR FOR HIS CONTINUED WORK
IN STANDING UP THE CENTER AND
HIS MARKED PROGRESS IN HIRING
STILL VACANT DISPATCHER
POSITIONS. THERE ARE 161 FTEs
THIS YEAR. WE'VE HIRED 40 NEW
DISPATCHERS THIS YEAR. WE HAD 2.
28 SEPARATIONS. THIS IS A NET
GAIN POSITIVE OF 12 NEW DISPATC.
NEW DISPATCHERS. WE HAVE A
LONG-STANDING ISSUE WITH OUR 91.
911 STAFFING. WE LEARNED ABOUT
SEVERAL YEARS AGO. I'M JUST, I
WANT TO FLAG AND WE'LL HEAR MORE
MORE ABOUT IT THAT THIS PROPOSED
BUDGET REMOVES THE 28 FTEs IN
FUNDING THAT WE AUGMENTED. THE
2022 BUDGET WITH TWO ALLEVIATE
STAFFING ISSUES. THIS HAS LED TO
TO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
MANDATORY OVERTIME. THIS HAS LED
LED TO WORKER BURNOUT AND LOWER.
LOWER MORALE. WE HAVE BEEN UNABE
BEEN UNABLE TO MEET THE CALL
ANSWERING STANDARDS, WHICH HAS
LED TO A WARNING FROM KING
COUNTY 911. I WANT TO BE CLEAR,
THIS IS NOT TO DO WITH OUR --
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR
DISPATCHERS WHO CONTINUE TO WORK
WORK EXTREMELY HARD AND MANAGE A
A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
MANDATORY OVERTIME. THIS IS A
LONG-STANDING ISSUE ABOUT THE CY
THE CITY'S PRIORITIZATION OF FUG
OF FUNDING A SUFFICIENT NUMBER
OF DISPATCHERS. THAT 2016
STAFFING ANALYSIS OF THE 911
CALL CENTER IDENTIFY THAT
STAFFING LEVELS WERE
INSUFFICIENT TO MEET CALL VOLUME
VOLUME AND CONCLUDED THAT BASED
ON ITS THEN CURRENT VOLUME, THAT
THAT THE CENTER SHOULD HAVE 169.
169 FTEs. AGAIN, THAT WAS A 2016
2016 REPORT, THANK YOU.
>> WELCOME, AND THANK YOU VERY
MUCH COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
WELCOME DIRECTOR, IT'S WONDERFUL
WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU. TAKE IT A.
IT AWAY. OKAY, SADLY WE DON'T
HEAR YOU. I SEE YOU TALKING.
AFTER MUCH ANTICIPATION, I FEEL
LIKE WE NEEDED A DRUMROLL.
>> ANY BETTER?
>> SO MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU.
>>
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO.
TO YOU. I KNOW THE LAST SESSION
WENT A LITTLE LONG. I'M HOPING
THAT WE HAVE SO COMPLETELY
VETTED THIS WITH COUNCIL STAFF
THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY
QUESTIONS AND WE WILL GET YOU
ALL OUT OF HERE ON TIME. WE'LL
SEE. ALL RIGHT, TO GO THROUGH
THE SLIDES PRETTY QUICKLY HERE,
FOLLOWING THE TEMPLATE THAT YOU
GUYS ESTABLISHED FOR US. WANTED
TO HIT JUST SOME OF THE
HIGHLIGHTS HERE ON OUR FIRST
SLIDE HERE. YOU CAN SEE WITH THE
THE FORECAST THAT WE ARE COMINGT
COMING OUT FOR THE CITY BUDGET
DEFICITS AND THE REVENUEDEFICIT.
REVENUE DEFICITS. THIS QUICKLY
KIND OF SHOWS THE CHANGE FOR
THIS YEAR THAT WE ADOPTED. THEN,
THEN, THE PROPOSED CUTS FOR THE
NEXT TWO YEARS. THE SUBSEQUENT
SLIDES WILL KIND OF GO THROUGH
AND TALK ABOUT WHERE THOSE CUTS
ARE COMING FROM. IT'S A SMALLER
BUDGET, THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET
AS YOU CAN SEE $22 MILLION IS
WHAT WAS ADOPTED FOR THIS YEAR.
WITH THE CUTS, MOST OF THOSE
CUTS CAME THROUGH AS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD TALKED
ABOUT. THE 26 I BELIEVE
ADDITIONAL FTEs THAT WERE
PROPOSED AND AUTHORIZED LAST YER
LAST YEAR BY THIS COMMITTEE. THE
THE DISCUSSION OF COURSE AT THAT
THAT TIME WAS THAT WE WERE TO
TRY TO FIND A WAY TO FILL MOST
OF OUR -- AS MANY OF OUR CURRENS
CURRENT VACANCIES BEFORE COUNCIL
COUNCIL WOULD AUTHORIZE -- I
DON'T THINK THERE IS A PROVISO,
BUT BEFORE YOU WOULD AUTHORIZE
THE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS. WE
HAVE PUT ALL OF OUR EFFORTS INTO
INTO HIRING, AND THERE WILL BE
-- THERE IS A GRAPH COMING UP ON
ON A SLIDE LATER THAT SHOWS THAT
THAT WE ARE PROJECTED TO
PROBABLY CLOSE WITHIN 90+ PERCET
90+ PERCENT OF OUR AUTHORIZED
STAFFING LEVELS BY THE END OF
THE YEAR. SO, I CAN'T CALL OUT
MY TEAM BIG ENOUGH FOR THE
RECRUITING EFFORTS THAT THEY
HAVE DONE. TO BOTH SLOW DOWN THE
THE ATTRITION, AND TO BRING NEW
PEOPLE ON BOARD. SO, IT'S AGAIN,
AGAIN, HUGE EFFORT BY THE TEAM.
>> NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, ON HEE
ON HERE, THIS IS -- WE ARE
GETTING TO THE CUTS. CITYWIDE AS
CITYWIDE ADJUSTMENTS FOR
STANDARD COST CHANGES. THE
ANNUAL WAGE INCREASES. YOU ARE
QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THESE. YOU
HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THESE ON SOME
SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS
LIVES. PRETTY STANDARD STUFF.
NUMBER THREE IS THE CARES
PROTOCOL SYSTEM. THIS IS THE
SYSTEM THAT PUBLIC SAFETY AND
THAT YOU GUYS THEN SUBSEQUENTLY
AUTHORIZED LAST YEAR. THIS IS
THE PROTOCOL SYSTEM TO HELP US,
AND THIS WAS KIND OF ONE OF THE
BUILDING BLOCKS FOR ANY KIND OF
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE. THAT WE
NEEDED TO HAVE THIS, OR WANTED
TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE TO HELP
911 CALL TAKERS WITH THEIR TRIAG
THEIR TRIAGING SO THEY ARE
ASKING CONSISTENT, BIAS FREE
QUESTIONING. THAT FEEDS BACK
INTO QUALITY ASSURANCE AND
WHATNOT. THAT SHOULD WE IDENTIFY
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE RESOURCES,
EITHER IN THE COMMUNITY OR THAT
THAT WE DESIGNED THEM, THAT THIS
THIS PROTOCOL SYSTEM WOULD ALLOW
ALLOW HER OUR DISPATCHERS TO
CONSISTENTLY ASK THE SAME AND
RIGHT QUESTIONS TO CONFIRM THAT
THOSE RESOURCES ARE THE BEST
THREE -- THE BEST THING TO SOLVE
SOLVE A POTENTIAL PROBLEM. SO,
LET'S SEE HERE. ANY QUESTIONS ON
ON THIS SLIDE? OKAY. JUST AS A
QUICK NOTE ON THAT LAST ONE,
SORRY ABOUT THAT. PART OF THIS S
THIS WAS COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS'
AMENDMENT FOR THE TWO EMPLOYEES.
HAPPY TO ADMIT THAT WE JUST ON
BOARD OF THOSE THIS WEEK. SO
THEY ARE ALREADY STARTING TO HIT
HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
LISTENING IN TO 911, LOOKING AT
REGIONAL RESOURCES. WE HAVE
SCHEDULED THEM FOR SOME RIDE
ALONG'S AND STUFF. IT TOOK A
LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE WANT,
BUT THEY ARE ON BOARD AND
STARTING TO GO. NEXT SLIDE PLEA.
SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY, ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE HAD ASKED FOR,
WHEN YOU GUYS DIRECTED US TO
START THIS NEW DEPARTMENT IN
2020, AND THEN OF COURSE IT'S
LAUNCH IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR. ONE
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD
ASKED FOR LAST YEAR, WAS TO --
AND REGARDING THE STUDY THAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD TALKED
ABOUT, THE 2016 FEDERAL
ENGINEERING/KIMBALL REPORT. A
LOT OF THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THAT
REPORT FOR STAFFING, STAFFING N,
STAFFING NEEDS, WERE BASED ON
THE 911 STILL BEING A DIVISION
WITHIN SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT. WE WANTED TO DO A
LITTLE REFRESH ON A PORTION OF
THAT STUDY TO ASCERTAIN, SINCE
IT WAS NOW ITS OWN INDEPENDENT
DEPARTMENT. WHAT WOULD HAVE CHAD
HAVE CHANGED AND THERE WAS
CONCLUSIONS FROM THAT INITIAL
2016, AND THEN THE UPDATED 2018.
2018 REPORT. THIS $150, OR I'M
SORRY THE 150,000 HERE WOULD
HAVE HELPED US REFRESH WHAT OTHR
WHAT OTHER BACK END STAFF DO WE.
WE NEED. PAYROLL, PURCHASING,
FINANCE, SUPPORT, SUPERVISORY
LEVELS AND WHATNOT. AGAIN, WITH
THE BUDGET CRUNCH FACING THE CI,
THE CITY, WHAT OUR HOPE IS AT
THIS POINT IS THAT NOW THAT
WE'VE STARTED TO FILL IN SOME OF
OF THOSE POCKETS, AND NOW THAT
WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ON,
ON BOARD, WE THINK THAT WE CAN
DO SOME OF THIS WORK OURSELVES.
AS FAR AS TRYING TO IDENTIFY
BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCES IN THE
YEAR AND A HALF SINCE WE HAVE
BEEN UP AND RUNNING. SOME OF OUR
OUR ADDITIONAL NEEDS. NUMBER FIE
NUMBER FIVE IS THE POINT THAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WAS JUST
TALKING ABOUT. THESE ARE THE
ADDITIONAL 26 POSITIONS. THIS IE
IS WHERE THE MAJORITY AS YOU CAN
CAN SEE FROM THE NUMBERS, OF
CSCC'S PROPOSED BUDGET CUTS ARE
ARE COMING FROM. NUMBER SIX, IS
AN ASSUMED VACANCY RATE. WHAT
THAT AMOUNTED TO IS FOUR FTEs.
WE WERE RESERVING TWO SUPERVISO.
SUPERVISOR POSITIONS. TWO OF
WHAT WE CALL OUR DISPATCHER
THREE POSITIONS. DISPATCHER
THREES ARE KIND OF A TRAINING,
CALL TAKER, RADIO TYPE ELEMENT.
THAT WE HAVE. THE BULK OF THE
WORK THAT WE NEED IN THE
DEPARTMENT IS OF COURSE IN THE
911 ANSWERING, AND THEN WORK IN
THE RADIO. THE DISPATCHER POSIT.
DISPATCHER POSITIONS. WE FELT
THAT THOSE POSITIONS WOULD HAVE
THE LEAST NEGATIVE IMPACT. FOR
THE DEPARTMENT.
>> DIRECTOR, LET ME JUST PAUSE
FOR A SECOND. YOU MAY HAVE HAD A
A CLARIFYING POINT ON THE
PREVIOUS SLIDE OR EARLY IN THIS
SLIDE. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. A
POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE
DESCRIPTION HERE FOR ITEM 4. THE
THE NEED FOR A STAFFING STUDY
WAS NOT CITED IN THE 2022
ADOPTED BUDGET. THE DESCRIPTION
OF THE BODY OF WORK IN THE 2022
ADOPTED BUDGET FOR WHICH FUNDING
FUNDING WAS PROVIDED WAS A
TECHNICAL AND OPERATIONAL STUDY
TO HELP THE CSCC IDENTIFY GAPS
AS A NEWLY INDEPENDENT
DEPARTMENT, AND PLAN FOR THE
INTEGRATION OF NONUNIFORMED
AND/OR ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF D.
OF DISPATCH. SO I THINK THAT
CHIEF AND I FEEL SIMILARLY THAT
A STAFFING STUDY SHOULD BE PERF,
BE PERFORMED, BUT THIS
ADDITIONAL BODY OF WORK WAS IDED
WAS IDENTIFIED AND FUNDING IS
NOW BEING REMOVED FOR IT. THAT'S
THAT'S ALL.
>> OKAY, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. D,
HELPFUL. DIRECTOR, DO WE CALL
YOU DIRECTOR OR CHIEF?
>> [ LAUGHTER ] YOU CAN CALL ME.
ME CHRIS. I'LL ANSWER TO ANY OF
THEM.
>> I'LL HAVE TO GET THIS ALL ST.
ALL STRAIGHT. DID YOU HAVE
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT?
>>
>> NO, SHE IS CORRECT. SOME OF
THOSE MISSING STAFFING POSITIONS
POSITIONS WAS PART OF IT. IT'S
KIND OF LIKE, AGAIN IT WAS A REH
A REFRESH FOR THE INITIAL STUDY
WHICH COVERED ALL KINDS OF OPERL
OF OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS,
STAFFING CONSIDERATIONS.
HARDWARE, SOFTWARE TYPE STUFF.
HER POINT IS SPOT ON.
>> EXCELLENT. LET ME JUST TAKE A
A QUICK QUESTION FROM
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> HOW DOES THE NUMBER 279,000
RELATE TO A REDUCTION IN 26
FTEs? THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO CORR.
TO CORRESPOND. IT SEEMS LIKE 26
FTEs WOULD BE A COUPLE OF
MILLION DOLLARS. NOT QUITE SURE
HOW WE ARE GETTING TO --
879,000.
>> OKAY. YOU SAID 279, YOU MEANT
MEANT THE 879,000. FOR THAT I'M
GOING TO PROBABLY PUNT TO MY
FINANCE DIRECTOR, TOMMY. ARE YOU
YOU ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT ONE?
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY AND YOU CAN
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS.
I HANDLE ALL THE PRINCIPAL
ACCOUNTING FUNCTIONS AND
PHYSICAL FUNCTIONS HERE. WHEN
THE COUNSELOR DID THE AMENDMENT
TO ADD THE 26 POSITIONS, THEY
EXPECTED THAT WE WOULD NOT BE
ABLE TO HIRE FOR ALL OF THOSE IN
IN THIS YEAR. SO THEY PLANNED ON
ON FINDING ONLY 879,000, WHICH
AT THE TIME WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
FOR 13 POSITIONS. LOOKING AT THE
THE MATH THAT IS MORE LIKE EIGHT
EIGHT POSITIONS, WHICH IS
ANOTHER NUMBER TOSSED AROUND
LATER IN THE 2022 BUDGET FOR US.
US.
>> I THINK WE BUDGETED FOR 2022
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING IT
WOULDN'T BE A FOUR-YEAR OF FTE.
IF THAT WAS AN ONGOING
COMMITMENT, IT WOULD BE GREATER
IN 2023 AND 2024 BECAUSE WE WERG
THAT THOSE POSITIONS WOULD BE
HIRED IN 2022.
>> LET ME SEE IF WE HAVE
SOMETHING TO ADD TO THIS. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING?
>> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE
THE 879,020 22 REFLECTED AN ASSN
AN ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WOULD
BE 13 POSITIONS FILLED AT MIDYE.
AT MIDYEAR. UNDERSTANDING, THIS
IS AN AVERAGE. SOME OF THEM
WOULD TAKE LESS TIME TO FILL.
SOME OF THEM WOULD TAKE LONGER.
BUT WITH 13 POSITIONS FILLED AT
THE END OF 2022, WE SHOULD SEE A
A REDUCTION IN 2023 OF THE FOUR
YEAR COST, WHICH IS CLOSER TO
1.9 MILLION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> YEAH, THANK YOU MA'AM FOR TH.
FOR THAT. IT'S REMINDING ME OF
THE SEQUENCING THAT WE DID. BUT,
IS THE FULL AMOUNT THAT YOU
JUST REFERENCED NOTED IN THE BUT
THE BUDGET, ANNE?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS
REFERENCED IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE
THE 2022 ADOPTED BUDGET WOULD
NOT HAVE REFERENCED 2023.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S KEEP
GOING.
>> OKAY. AGAIN, I REMEMBER THE N
THE DISCUSSION WITH YOU GUYS
LAST YEAR WAS THAT YOU
DEFINITELY WANTED TO SEE US FILL
FILL THE EXISTING POCKETS BEFORE
BEFORE WE STARTED TAPPING INTO
THOSE. SO. NEXT PAGE PLEASE. SO
THESE ITEMS -- SO THE NUMBER SEN
NUMBER SEVEN IS SIMPLY JUST A T.
A TRANSFER. FROM US OVER TO SPD.
SPD. IT'S AN EMERGENCY SIGN
LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION PROGRAM.
IT WAS WITHIN THE 911 WHEN THEY
THEY WERE STILL A DIVISION
WITHIN SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMEN,
HANDLING ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS.
BUT WHAT IT WAS AS IT HAD TO DO
DO MORE WITH SIGN LANGUAGE
INTERPRETERS FOR PATROL UNITS.
OUT IN THE FIELD. SO WHEN THE
DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED, THIS WAS
WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF ONE OF
THOSE LINE ITEMS THAT
ACCIDENTALLY GOT TRANSFERRED
OVER WITH US. WE ARE SIMPLY JUST
JUST TRANSFERRING IT BACK. THEY
STILL USE THE SERVICE, BUT AGAIN
AGAIN IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
CSCC.
>> ONE SECOND.
>> LET ME DOUBLE CHECK, ARE WE
ON SLIDE NUMBER FOUR?
>> SHOULD BE, YES.
>> OKAY, PERFECT, THANK YOU SO .
JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.
>> NUMBER EIGHT, AND NUMBER
EIGHT AND NUMBER NINE WERE
ACTUALLY BOTH KIND OF CONNECTED.
CONNECTED. ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT WE IDENTIFIED EARLIER WAS
THAT THERE WERE SOME DISCONNECTS
BETWEEN THE COMPUTER AIDED
DISPATCHING SOFTWARE THAT CSCC
USES TO TAKE, CATEGORIZE AND
RECORD ALL THE CALLS, AND
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND
FIRE DEPARTMENT'S RECORDS
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. I'LL TALK TO
THE FIRST ONE, CSCC TO SPD
SOFTWARE INTERFACE IMPROVEMENTS.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LOT OF
BROKEN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN AGAN
THE CAD AND THE RECORDS
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. POLICE
OFFICERS ARE HAVING TO, WHEN
THEY ARE LOOKING UP INFORMATION,
THEY ARE HAVING TO LOOK IT UP
ACTUALLY IN THEIR PATROL CARS
AND MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. THE RMS
AND THE CAD SYSTEM. WHAT THIS
FUNDING SOUGHT TO DO IS FIX
THOSE LINKS. SO THAT THE
INFORMATION IS ALL GETTING PAST
APPROPRIATELY OVER TO SPD AND
THEIR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
EXCUSE ME. THE SECOND ONE IS A
SIMILAR CONNECTION OVER TO FIRE
DEPARTMENT'S RECORDS MANAGEMENT
SYSTEM. FIRE, THE REASON THAT
THEY NEED TO TALK TO FIRE' IS M,
IS MANAGEMENT, OR RECORDS
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS THAT FIRE
DEPARTMENT HAS A MUCH MORE ACCUE
MORE ACCURATE AND UPDATED
DATABASE THAT INCLUDES WHAT WE
CALL A LOT OF THE COMMONPLACE N.
COMMONPLACE NAMES. AROUND
SEATTLE, THAT'S DONE BY
FIREFIGHTERS DOING THEIR ANNUAL
SAFETY INSPECTIONS, AND THEN
CORRECTING AND UPDATING THAT
DATA. THAT PROCESS IS GOING ON
ALL THE TIME, EVERY DAY,
YEAR-ROUND THROUGHOUT THE CITY
SO THAT WHEN A POLICE DISPATCHER
DISPATCHER OR CSCC DISPATCHER,
SORRY, SOMEBODY CALLED 911 AND
SAYS I'M IN FRONT OF McDONALD'S.
McDONALD'S. I DON'T KNOW AN ADD.
AN ADDRESS. THAT WOULD ENABLE
THE DISPATCHER TO LOOK AT McDONS
AT McDONALD'S AND FIND THE 10,
20 McDONALD'S THAT ARE IN THE
CITY AND START TO TRY TO NARROW
IT DOWN. CSCC AND PREVIOUSLY
SPD DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD
MECHANISM TO KEEP UPDATING THAT
DATABASE BASED ON USING THE
McDONALD'S EXAMPLE THAT IT USED
TO BE AT THIS ADDRESS. FOR
WHATEVER REASON, THIS ONE FLOWS
DOWN BUT A NEW ONE OPENED
SOMEWHERE ELSE. THIS FUNDING
HERE WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO
CONNECT TO THAT SYSTEM WITHIN
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT' ASIDE SO
THAT 911 DISPATCHERS WOULD BE
ABLE TO GET AGAIN REAL-TIME
COMMONPLACE NAMES. PARKS,
RESTAURANTS, ALL OF THAT KIND OF
KIND OF STUFF. ANY QUESTIONS ON
THIS SLIDE?
>> I DON'T SEE ANY HERE.
>> OKAY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS
THIS GRAPH JUST KIND OF SHOWS
WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT AS
AS FAR AS HOW HARD THE TEAM WAS
WORKING ON RECRUITING AND
GETTING NEW PEOPLE ON BOARD. YOU
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE KIND OF HIT
BOTTOM EARLY, LATE WINTER, EARLY
EARLY SPRING THIS YEAR. WE HAD
TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST YEAR AND
MANY OF YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE
EXODUS WAS UNDERWAY. WE WERE
TRYING TO HIRE, BUT THERE WERE
DEFINITELY PEOPLE LEAVING FASTER
FASTER THAN THEY WERE COMING. SO
SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS THAT
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THAT AGAIN,
WE HAVE BEEN TAKING ADVANTAGE
OF EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP AND
AND HIRE NEW PEOPLE. WE ARE ON .
ON TRACK. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER
CLASS SCHEDULED IN THE NOVEMBER
/DECEMBER TIME FRAME. THAT WILL
PUT US, BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH OUR
ATTRITION RATE, GETTING PEOPLE
TO GRADUATE FROM THE CLASSES AND
AND GET OUT ONTO THE DISPATCH
FLOOR, THAT WILL PUT US JUST A
LITTLE BIT ABOVE 95% OF OUR AUTD
OUR AUTHORIZED HEAD COUNT. FOR
CSDC. SO. I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST YOUR QUE.
YOUR QUESTIONS.
>> WELL, THAT WAS EFFICIENT,
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE EVEN GOT
SOME QUESTIONS IN. SO, WE ARE
GOING TO TAKE A FEW MORE
QUESTIONS HERE, AND THEN WE ARE
GOING TO GO TO ANNE FOR THE
ISSUE IDENTIFICATION. I SEE
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE GO
GO AHEAD.
>> JUST WANTING TO GET THE
NUMBER IN MY HEAD AGAIN. WHAT IS
IS THE AUTHORIZED FTE COUNT?
>> SO, THAT WAS WITH THE MINUS
THE FOUR VACANCIES THAT WE ARE G
ARE MAINTAINING ON I BELIEVE IT
WAS SLIDE THREE. THAT WOULD GIV,
GIVE US, I'M CALLING IT UP HERE.
TUMMY, DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE
THE NUMBERS FROM THIS WEEK?
>> WITH THE 26 -- WITH THE 26
POSITIONS REMOVED WE ARE ALLOWED
ALLOWED TO HAVE 148. WITH THE
FOUR POSITIONS HELD THEY CAN, IT
IT IS 144. WITH THE NEXT CLASS
WE ARE PROJECTED TO BE AT THE
140 OUT OF 144.
>> ALL RIGHT AND MAYBE ONE . I'M
I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT
NUMBER IS RELATING TO THE NUMBER
NUMBER THAT I HAVE IN MY NOTES
FOR 2023 OF ONLY 113 FTEs. CALL
TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS. 113 IS
THE NUMBER I HAVE IN MY NOTES.
>> 113, COUNCILMEMBER, IS THE
NUMBER OF CALL TAKER AND
DISPATCHER POSITIONS. THAT THE
CSDC WOULD HAVE IN 2023 UNDER
THIS PROPOSAL. BUT THERE ARE
OTHER POSITIONS AT THE CSDC .
TOMMY'S POSITION, CHIEF'S POSIT,
CHIEF'S POSITION, THAT ARE NOT
INCLUDED IN THAT GROUPING. WE
TALK ABOUT CALL TAKERS AND
DISPATCHERS BECAUSE THESE ARE
THE FRONT LINE. THESE ARE THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE ANSWERING THE
CALLS AND GETTING RESPONSE
RESOURCES OUT ON THE STREETS.
>> WHAT ARE THE 2022 AUTHORIZEDs
AUTHORIZED FTEs FOR CALL TAKERS
AND DISPATCHERS?
>> 2022, I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE
THAT IMMEDIATELY HANDY. I WILL
GET THAT TO YOU. I WOULD GET
THAT TO YOU. I THINK THAT THERE
WERE 10 CALL TAKERS AND DISPATCS
AND DISPATCHERS IN THE GROUP OF
13 POSITIONS THAT WERE FUNDED IN
IN 2022. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT
THERE ARE CURRENTLY 123, BUT I
WILL CONFIRM THIS AND GET BACK
TO YOU.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> SIMILARLY ON THIS LAST SLIDE
WE ARE LOOKING AT THEN, IS THE
2022 -- SORRY SLIDE NUMBER FIVE.
IS THE 2022 CSDC HIRING AND
HEADCOUNT STATUS, IS THAT
SPECIFIC ONLY TO THE CALL TAKERS
TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS? OR IS
THIS INCLUSIVE OF THE ENTIRE
DEPARTMENT?
>> GOOD QUESTION.
>> THE CHART IS FOR THE ENTIRE .
ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> OKAY, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS
WELL TO COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S
LINE OF QUESTIONING TO SEE JUST
THE CALL TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS
AS WELL. OKAY. AND, HOW IS IT
GOING WITH GETTING ACCESS TO THE
THE DATABASES THAT YOU NEED TO
SHARE WITH SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT?
>> SO THE CHALLENGE THERE HASN'T
REALLY BEEN ACCESS. THE
PERMISSIONS ARE THERE, THE
CHALLENGE HAS BEEN ON THE I.T.
SUPPORT SIDE. NOT SEATTLE I.T. ,
I.T. NECESSARILY, IT'S JUST
AGAIN IT'S THE TIME AND
MATERIALS THING TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE SOMEBODY DO THAT WORK. IT
INVOLVES THE VENDORS, MARC 43
FOR THEIR RECORDS MANAGEMENT
SYSTEM, AND OUR CAD SYSTEM. SO
THE FUNDING IS JUST FOR THEM TO
GET TO DO THE WORK.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HER,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, IS THAT A
A NEW HAND? OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
WELL, WE WANT TO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. I AM SURE THERE WILL BE
MORE QUESTIONS. WE HAPPEN TO BE
AT THE END OF A VERY LONG DAY SO
SO I'M GUESSING COUNCILMMBERS
MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
THEY ARE JUST NOT ASKING TODAY.
WE WILL DEFINITELY GET THOSE TO
YOU BY ANNE. OF COURSE YOU ARE
WELCOME TO HANG ON THE LINE AND
LISTEN IN, BUT WE WILL HAPPILY
UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE TO BE
EXCUSED. WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO
TO CENTRAL STAFF. I BELIEVE, I
JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS CHANCE TO
TO THANK THE DIRECTOR AS WELL. I
I KNOW YOU HAD TO LEAVE AT 5:00.
WE HOPEFULLY WON'T GO TOO MUCHR
THAT, BUT IN CASE WE DON'T GET A
A CHANCE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PARTICIPATION TODAY. WE
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU
TOMORROW IF WE DO END UP LOGGING
LOGGING OFF BEFORE WE ARE ALL
DONE HERE. OKAY, EXCELLENT.
>
>> ANNE IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEE
YOU. THANKS FOR CHIMING IN ON
SOME OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS
EARLIER, AND LOOK FORWARD TO
WALKING THROUGH THIS
PRESENTATION WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PATTY,
COULD I HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE PLE?
SLIDE PLEASE? SO, THIS IS JUST
OUR OVERVIEW OF THE SUMMARY
INFORMATION THAT THE CHIEF HAS
ALREADY PRESENTED. HERE YOU SEE
A PROPOSED REDUCTION OF 13
FUNDED POSITIONS. AND 26
POSITIONS IN ALL. TRANSLATING
INTO A BUDGET REDUCTION FOR THE
CSDC OF 8.3% IN 2023. AND 2024.
THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE BOTTOM
LINE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, AS
COUNCILMEMBERS ARE AWARE,
CENTRAL STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING
THIS YEAR WITH OUR COUNTERPARTSN
COUNTERPARTS IN MAYOR HARRELL'S
OFFICE TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO
ADVANCE ALTERNATIVE 911 RESPONS,
RESPONSE , WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY
ENHANCING SPD OFFICERS' ABILITY
TO FOCUS WHERE A LAW ENFORCEMENT
ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE IS NEEDED.
SO THIS WORK IS VERY MUCH IN THE
CSDC'S AREA OF CONCERN. THE ES
THE EXECUTIVES PROPOSED BUDGET
INCLUDES FUNDING OF 1.9 MILLION
FOR A NEAR-TERM PROJECT OR PROJS
OR PROJECTS IN 2023, WHILE TEAM
MEMBERS CONTINUE TO ENGAGE ABOUT
ABOUT WHAT CHANGES MIGHT BE POSE
BE POSSIBLE MORE SYSTEMICALLY
AND IN THE LONGER-TERM. THAT
ONGOING WORK ALSO RELIES ON
SPD'S RISK MANAGEMENT ANALYSIS.
SO CENTRAL STAFF AND THE MAYOR'S
MAYOR'S OFFICE WORKGROUP HAVE
CORRALLED FOR OPTIONS THAT WE
BELIEVE COULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN
2023. AS A NEAR-TERM PROJECT
THAT ADVANCES THESE GOALS. THIS
PENDING LEGAL ANALYSIS AND
DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY LABOR REL.
THEY ARE LISTED HERE. I WILL
DESCRIBE EACH OF THEM AS BRIEFLY
BRIEFLY AS I CAN, BUT I WANT TO
ADD THAT IT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE
POSSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF
THESE OPTIONS IN 2023. IN THE
HYPOTHETICAL COURSE OF ADVANCING
ADVANCING ALL OF THEM, SOME OF
THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD SHIFT
INTO 2024. SO THESE FOUR OPTIONE
OPTIONS ARE THE DIRECT DISPATCHS
DISPATCH AS SFD HEALTHONE UNITS.
THIS IS NOT CURRENTLY POSSIBLE
AND MAYBE WE WILL TALK SOME MORE
MORE ABOUT THAT DURING THE
PRESENTATION TOMORROW. SOMETHING
SOMETHING CALLED INTELLIGENT
NONEMERGENCY REPORTING. WHAT
THIS REFERS TO IS FOR INCIDENT
REPORTING THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE
AN SPD OFFICER TO COME TO THE S.
THE SCENE. FEES WOULD BE
IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CITY'S TOOLS
THAT SUPPORT ONLINE REPORTING
OR REPORTING BY PHONE. ONE MAJOR
MAJOR IMPROVEMENT WOULD BE
BETTER SUPPORT FOR DIFFERENT LA.
DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. EXPANSION
OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER DU.
OFFICER DUTIES. CSO'S, CURRENTLY
CURRENTLY ARE THE LIAISONS
BETWEEN SPD AND COMMUNITY, AND
THEY DO NOT HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT
ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY. IT MAY BE
BE POSSIBLE TO EXPAND THEIR ROLE
ROLE IN A WAY THAT LESSENS THE
CURRENT WORKLOAD OF SPD OFFICER.
SPD OFFICERS. FINALLY, DUAL DISH
DUAL DISPATCH TO AUGMENT THE
CITY'S CURRENT RESPONSE TO CALLS
CALLS THAT INVOLVE A MENTAL OR
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CONCERN. JUST
SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE
THE TERMINOLOGY, DUAL DISPATCH
REFERS TO TWO SEPARATE UNITS
BEING SENT TO THE SCENE. IN THI,
THIS CASE, THE TWO UNITS WOULD
BE SPD AND A CITY STAFF TEAM
WITH RELEVANT CLINICAL AND
PROCEDURAL TRAINING. I WILL
PAUSE FOR QUESTIONS IF I MAY DO.
DO SO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> QUESTIONS ONLY, OR -- [
LAUGHTER ] EXCITEMENT STATEMENT?
EXCITEMENT STATEMENTS? ABOUT
THIS PROGRESS? IS THAT
ACCEPTABLE, OR ONLY, OR ARE YOU
ONLY TAKING QUESTIONS AT THIS
POINT?
>> ANY STATEMENT YOU HAVE IS
GREAT TOO.
>> I WANT TO JUST REALLY
SINCERELY THANK THE EXECUTIVE
SENIOR TEAM, MAYOR HARRELL, FOR
FOR THEIR JOINT WORK WITH
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF. WANT TO
RECOGNIZE WORK ALSO OF THE RISK
MANAGEMENT ANALYSIS THAT WE HEAD
WE HEARD IN COMMITTEE A COUPLE
WEEKS AGO. I WANT TO -- I THINK
SOME OF THE COUNCIL'S
QUESTIONING, AND I COUNT MYSELFG
MYSELF AMONG THE PARTICIPANTS IN
IN THAT QUESTIONING, WAS KIND OE
OF NEGATIVE AROUND THE RISK
MANAGEMENT DEMAND. I THINK WE
KIND OF OBFUSCATED THE GOOD NEWS
NEWS WITH THE RISK MANAGEMENT
DEMAND ANALYSIS WHICH SHOWS THAT
THAT BOTH TIER 4 IS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO
IMPROVE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION,
REALIZE RESOURCE EFFICIENCIES.
THAT'S 24% OF CALLS. THEN, TIER3
TIER 3, I THINK TIER 3 MOST
CLOSELY ALIGNS WITH THIS GRAPHIC
GRAPHIC FOR A RESPONSE THAT IS
ALMOST 14% OF RESPONSES. THE DET
THE DEPARTMENT ACKNOWLEDGED IN
THIS ANALYSIS THAT IN A DUAL
RESPONSE, WHAT THEY ACTUALLY I K
REFERRED TO AS A TIERED RESPONSL
RESPONSE MODEL, THE RESPONSE
ECOSYSTEM IS AWARE THAT AN
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE IS IN PROG.
IN PROGRESS. THEY MAY STAGE
NEARBY. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO, MAY
MAY NEED TO RAPIDLY INTERVENE OR
OR NOT, BUT WOULD NOT BE AN ATT.
AN ATTENDANT. I THINK THIS IS FR
IS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE WORK
THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT IS
MORE OF A LONG-TERM PROJECT, AS
WELL AS OUR OPERATION WITH THE
EXECUTIVE TO DO SOMETHING MORE
IN THE NEAR TERM. SPECIFICALLY,
AND MOST EXCITEDLY, FOCUS ON
BOTH DISPATCH TO AUGMENT CURRENL
CURRENT MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH RESPONSE, IS A REALLY
FANTASTIC STEP FORWARD. I DO
ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT RESPONDING,
OR MOVING FORWARD, AS WE CAN ON
THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WERE
IDENTIFIED AS AREAS FOR COLLABO.
FOR COLLABORATION. INCLUDING THE
THE NON-INTELLIGENT,
NONEMERGENCY REPORTING AND THE
EXPANSION OF OFFICER DUTIES. I'M
I'M ALSO DEEPLY INTERESTED IN
CONTINUING TO DEVELOP EFFICIENCY
EFFICIENCY FOR HOW ONE RESPONDS
SO THAT THEY CAN BE CORRECTLY D.
CORRECTLY DISPATCHED. REALLY I'M
I'M EXCITED AND WANT TO SIGNAL Y
STRONG INTEREST IN MOVING FORWAD
MOVING FORWARD ON THE DUAL DISPH
DUAL DISPATCH ON MENTAL AND
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONSE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY RESPOE
ANY RESPONSE TO COUNCILMEMBER HS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S
STATEMENT OF EXCITEMENT?
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE
EXCITEMENT?
>> WE APPRECIATE THE STRONG
INTEREST FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
YOUR FOCUS HAS BEEN HELPFUL TO
US AS WE'VE ENGAGED WITH OUR COS
OUR COUNTERPARTS AND THE MAYOR'.
MAYOR'S OFFICE. WE HAVE GROWN A
GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP SO
FAR, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TOG
THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD NEXT
YEAR.
>> EXCELLENT. I SEE NODS FROM
THE DIRECTOR AS WELL. EXCELLENT.
OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, I WANT TO
TO ECHO ALL OF COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD'S STATEMENTS. THIS IS
ESSENTIAL AND CRITICAL WORK. IT
IS NO LONGER, I THINK A MATTER
OF WANTING TO DO THIS WORK. WE
HAVE TO DO THIS WORK IF WE ARE
TO EFFECTIVELY HONOR OUR
RESPONSE TIME OBLIGATIONS GOING
FORWARD. JUST WANT TO STATE MY
APPRECIATION FOR WHAT CENTRAL SF
CENTRAL STAFF HAS BEEN DOING IN
COLLABORATION WITH THE EXECUTIVE
THROUGH THE CURRENT SHEET
PROCESS WE CREATED EARLIER THISR
THIS YEAR AND REALLY LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS
THROUGH BUDGET AND IMPLEMENTING
THIS IN 2023. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS. ANY
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THAT?
OKAY. THANKS. I DON'T SEE ANY
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THAT.
THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE FOR
ME TO MAKE THIS ASKED. THIS
MIGHT BE AN ASK OF CENTRAL STAFF
STAFF IN YOUR ANALYSIS, PLEASE
LET US KNOW. I WOULD LIKE A LIST
LIST OF ALL OF WHAT THE PROPOSED
PROPOSED BUDGET CONSIDERS
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES. OBVIOUSLY
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS ONE AREA, BUT
AS WE LOOK TO SEE HOW THE
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES THAT WE'VE
WE'VE INVESTED IN THE PAST, ARE
CONTINUING HERE, IT WOULD BE
HELPFUL TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE
LIST OF WHAT THOSE INVESTMENTS .
INVESTMENTS ARE. SO IF THAT
DOESN'T TOTALLY FIT WITHIN IT,
IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO COMPILE
IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> I'M SURE WE CAN COMPILE THAT.
OH, THANK YOU, PATTY FOR COMIN.
COMING BACK. JUST LET ME READ
THROUGH THE OPTIONS FOR THIS
FIRST ISSUE. WITH RESPECT TO THE
THE ALLOCATED FUNDING AND THE PT
THE PROJECT THAT THE WORKGROUPS
HAVE IDENTIFIED, COUNCIL COULD
ALLOCATE THAT FUNDING AND PASS A
A RESOLUTION OUTLINING NEXT ST.
NEXT STEPS. COUNCIL COULD
ALLOCATE THE PROPOSED FUNDING.
COUNCIL COULD ADD FUNDING
SUFFICIENT TO IMPLEMENT ALL
OPTIONS . WE WOULD DEVELOP A
TIMELINE ALONG WITH THAT FOR
MAKE NO CHANGE. NEXT SLIDE
PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> SO, SECOND ISSUE IS THE NEED
FOR A TECHNICAL OPERATIONAL, AND
AND STAFFING STUDY. AS I
MENTIONED EARLIER, THE 2022
FUNDING WAS FOR A TECHNICAL AND
OPERATIONAL STUDY. IT WAS NOT E.
NOT EXPENDED. IN ADDITION, THERS
THERE WAS A STAFFING STUDY
PERFORMED IN 2016 WHEN THE CURRT
THE CURRENT CSDC WAS THEN THE
SPD CALL CENTER. WE HAVE
CONCLUSIONS FROM THAT STUDY THAT
THAT ARE AT ODDS WITH THE DECISS
THE DECISIONS IN THIS BUDGET
PROPOSAL. BUT, IT MAY NEED TO BE
BE UPDATED BECAUSE IT PREDATES
SOME CURRENT TECHNOLOGIES, AND
IT DID NOT CONSIDER THE DISPATCH
DISPATCH OF ALTERNATIVE RESPONS.
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE. WE DON'T
HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT
ADDITIONAL BURDEN THAT DEVIATION
DEVIATION FROM HISTORICAL
PRACTICE WOULD CREATE FOR CALL S
CALL TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS. SO,
SO, THE OPTIONS WE HAVE IDENTIF,
HAVE IDENTIFIED, ADD FUNDING FOR
FOR A TECHNICAL OPERATIONAL AND
STAFFING STUDY. AND PROPOSE A
PROVISO TO MAKE SURE THE WORK
ACTUALLY GETS DONE OR MAKE NO C.
NO CHANGE.
>> THANK YOU. ANNE I'M NOT
SEEING ANY HANDS, SO WE'LL
CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
>>
>> THIRD ISSUE. AS WE DISCUSSED,
DISCUSSED, THE PROPOSED BUDGET
WOULD ADVOCATE 13 FUNDED
POSITIONS, AND 26 POSITIONS IN .
IN ALL. IN CREATING THOSE
POSITIONS AND ADDING FROM LAST
YEAR, COUNCIL LOOKED BACK TO
THE METHODOLOGY AND CONCLUSIONS
OF THE STAFFING STUDY THAT WAS
CONDUCTED IN 2016. COUNCIL MADE
CHANGES BASED ON THAT STUDY.
THAT STUDY CONCLUDED THE CSDC
SHOULD HAVE 161 CALL TAKERS AND
DISPATCHERS. THAT PROPOSED
BUDGET WOULD INCLUDE 113 CALL
TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS, WHICH IS
IS 30% BELOW THE 2016 CONCLUSIO.
2016 CONCLUSION. AND AS THE
CHIEF RELATED, TWO OF THOSE
WOULD BE HELD THEY CAN. THERE
WOULD BE 111 WORKING CALL TAKERS
TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS VERSUS A
SLIGHTLY STALE RECOMMENDATION O.
OF 161. WE SEE TWO OPEN
QUESTIONS ABOUT STAFFING AT THE
CSDC. ONE IS WHY HAS IT BEEN
HARD TO FILL CURRENT POSITIONS?
WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS, AND
ARE THERE ANY RESOURCES THAT
COULD BE ADDED THAT COULD
ALLEVIATE THOSE CONSTRAINTS?
ALTHOUGH IT DOES SEEM LIKE THEY
ARE MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS IN
TERMS OF HIRING. THE SECOND
QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE
APPROPRIATE STAFFING LEVEL TO
MEET CALL STANDARDS AND MAXIMALY
AND MAXIMALLY TO SUPPORT EMPLOYS
SUPPORT EMPLOYEES SO THAT THEY
DON'T WANT TO RESIGN? THESE TWOS
ARE RELATED. THE POSITION
ABROGATION IN THE BUDGET DOES
NOT ANSWER EITHER OF THEM, AND
MAY FORECLOSE FUTURE DISCUSSION
OF THEM IN SETTING A LEVEL OF
148 AUTHORIZED EMPLOYEES. SO,
SOME OPTIONS FOR COUNCILMEMBERS
WOULD BE TO RESTORE SOME OR ALL
OF THE 26 POSITIONS. AND
ASSOCIATED FUNDING. TO RESTORE E
RESTORE SOME OR ALL OF THE
POSITIONS AND FUNDING, AND ADD
HIRING SUPPORT RESOURCES. WE
COULD WORK WITH THE CSDC TO
FIND OUT WHAT MIGHT HELP GET
POSITIONS FILLED FASTER, OR MAKE
MAKE NO CHANGE.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE
REMINDER ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT
THAT THE STUDY INDICATED. THE
161 CALL TAKERS NECESSARY. THAT
WILL BE HELPFUL TO SEE THE
SPECIFIC HIRING AND ATTRITION
RATES RELATED TO THE CALL TAKERS
TAKERS TOTAL. COUNCILMEMBER HER,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I SAW YOU
YOU COME ON SCREEN. ANYTHING TO
ADD?
>> YEAH, I THINK I WANT TO JUST
FLAG THE FACT THAT WHEN 911 IS
HAVING STAFFING CONSTRAINTS,
DOES THAT HAVE A CUSTOMER
SERVICE IMPACT? WE SAW A COUPLE,
COUPLE TIMES, AND IF IT DOES
CONTINUE I GET REGULAR REPORTS
FROM CSDC. IT'S NOT HAPPENING
AS FREQUENTLY AS IT WAS
HAPPENING EARLIER HERE, BUT WE
HEARD REPORTS OF THE
NONEMERGENCY LINE JUST NOT BEING
BEING ANSWERED AT ALL. I ALSO, ,
ALSO, AGAIN, AS I ALLUDED TO
EARLIER TODAY, THERE ARE CONSEQS
ARE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT MEETINGR
MEETING OUR CALL TIME LEVELS.
THAT OF COURSE IS BEYOND THE
POSSIBILITY OF NOT BEING ABLE TO
TO RESPOND TO SOMEBODY IN CRISI.
IN CRISIS. THERE ARE
CONSEQUENCES THAT COULD INCLUDE
LOSING FUNDING, TO FINES OR OTHR
OR OTHER PUNITIVE MEASURES
ASSOCIATED WITH NOT MEETING
ANSWERING -- CALL ANSWERING STA.
ANSWERING STANDARDS. JUST WANT
TO FLAG MY CONTINUED INTEREST IS
AREA. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, AND NINE IN FAVOR,
FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED. MINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SUBSTANTIATE
SUBSTANTIATE WHAT COMES OF ONE.
THE CSCC'S MANDATES THEIR
PRIORITY IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE
COMMUNICATING WITH OFFICERS IN
THE FIELD. ANSWERING THE
EMERGENCY LINE. SO WHEN THEY ARE
ARE STRETCHED THIN IN TERMS OF
STAFFING, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
ANSWER THE NONEMERGENCY LINE.
THE NONEMERGENCY LINE IS
ACTUALLY AN IMPORTANT LINK
BETWEEN THE CSCC AND SPD FOR THE
THE KINDS OF CALLS THAT AREN'T S
AREN'T EMERGENCIES AND DON'T REE
DON'T REQUIRE SPD RESPONSE.
THAT'S JUST WHAT WE ARE TRYING
TO FOCUS ON IN TERMS OF
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE. SO, THE
MORE WE MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR
CSCC CALL TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS
DISPATCHERS TO TEND TO THE
NONEMERGENCY LINE, THE CLOSER
WE GET TO MEETING ONE OF THE
GOALS OF OUR ALTERNATIVE
RESPONSE WORKGROUP WITH THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE.
>> ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COM?
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YES, PLEASE
PLEASE GO AHEAD, DIRECTOR.
>> YEAH MAYBE I'LL JUST ADD ONE
MORE COMMENT TO THIS DISCUSSION,
WHICH IS JUST BECAUSE IN THE
SPD DISCUSSION WE HAD A COUPLE
CLARIFYING BACK IN FORCE ABOUT
POSITIONS BEING ABROGATED. OR N.
OR NOT. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE
THAT FOR THE CSCC THESE
POSITIONS ARE OF PROPOSED TO BE.
BE ABROGATED. IF FUNDING WAS TO
BE IDENTIFIED LATER IN THE YEAR
OR FUTURE YEARS, THE POSITIONS
WOULD HAVE TO BE FULLY ADDED BA.
ADDED BACK. THAT'S A DIFFERENT
PRACTICE THAN IS BEING PROPOSED
OVER IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BUDGET. SO JUST NOTING THAT SORT
SORT OF A CROSS ARE PUBLIC
SAFETY AGENCIES. SO WE'LL BE
TALKING WITH COUNCILMEMBERS
ABOUT THAT AS YOU KIND OF CHECK
YOUR OPTIONS IN THIS AREA.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU, ANNE,
ANYTHING ELSE?
>> NO, NOTHING TO ADD, THANK
YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. I'M LOOKING FOR
HANDS. I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS.
DIRECTOR, ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU
YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON THIS?
>> NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WAS
TALKING ABOUT, THE NUMBERS THAT
WE SEND HER REGULARLY, WERE
PRETTY BLEAK. BUT THEY HAVE
GOTTEN A LOT BETTER. BUT AN
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF WHAT HAS BEEN
SAID BY BOTH ANNE AND
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, WE ARE
GOING TO START REACHING A
PLATEAU WHERE WE ARE NOT PERFEC.
NOT PERFECT. WE ARE NOT
ANSWERING THE NONEMERGENCY LINE
100% OF THE TIME. IT'S A BETTER,
BETTER PICTURE, BUT WE ARE
GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE ARE
DOING ABOUT ALL THAT WE CAN.
PART OF THIS WAS THE EMPLOYEES
WERE ALL ON BOARD WITH IT AS WE.
AS WELL. SO, THEY HAVE BEEN
WORKING HUGE NUMBERS OF OVERTIM.
OF OVERTIME. TO KIND OF TRY TO
CLOSE THAT GAP AND TO TRY TO
KEEP THINGS GOING WHILE WE
BROUGHT NEW EMPLOYEES ON. THERE
IS DEFINITELY GETTING TO BE SOME
SOME BURNOUT. SO AGAIN IT'S BALG
IT'S BALANCING PLATES AS FAR AS
ATTRITION RATES, KEEPING NEW
PEOPLE, GETTING NEW PEOPLE, TRY
NOT TO WORKING THEM IN THE 52,
56 HOUR WEEK RIGHT. AGAIN, I
CAN'T GIVE ENOUGH TO THOSE TO
THE TEAM. THE PEOPLE IN THIS NEW
NEW DEPARTMENT ARE PHENOMENAL,
AND IT'S BEEN SUCH A PLEASURE TO
TO WORK WITH THEM.
>> WELL SAID, THANK YOU. SENIOR
DEPUTY MAYOR, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> I JUST WANTED TO TAKE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE INTERIR
INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR HIS WORK
SETTING UP A NEW DEPARTMENT,
PARTICULARLY ONE THAT INVOLVES
SUCH HIGH-STAKES ISSUES IS A
VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO. HE
HAS SERVED THE CITY VERY WELL IN
IN THIS CAPACITY AND IN THIS
FUNCTION. SO, I KNOW THIS MAY BE
BE THE LAST TIME WE OFFICIALLY
SEE HIM IN THIS CAPACITY, SO I
JUST WANTED TO THANK HIM SO MUCH
MUCH PUBLICLY FOR HIS WORK IN
HELPING THIS DEPARTMENT GET SET.
SET UP. AS PER HIS WISHES, WE
WILL BE POSTING THE PERMANENT PN
PERMANENT POSITION FOR THE
DIRECTOR OF CSCC VERY SHORTLY.
THAT SHOULD GO WIDE THIS WEEK.
SO, WE ARE -- WE CANNOT THANK CS
THANK CHRIS ENOUGH FOR HIS WORK
IN REALLY HELPING THIS
DEPARTMENT GET SET UP. WE KNOW
THAT WE WILL BE LEANING ON HIM
AS WE GET THE PROCESS UNDERWAY
FOR SELECTING A NEW DIRECTOR AND
AND UTILIZING CHRIS' NEW SKILLS
AND KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY GET ON BOARD AS WELL. SO,
THANK YOU ALL, AND ESPECIALLY
CHRIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
YOUR SERVICE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND
APPRECIATION FROM ALL OF US AS
WELL. REALLY APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATION TODAY. THANK YOU
FOR WALKING US THROUGH THE
DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION. FROM
THE TEAM FROM THE EXECUTIVE'S
OFFICE, THANK YOU TWO ANNE FOR
WALKING US THROUGH THE CENTRAL
STAFF PRESENTATION. REALLY FOR A
A ROBUST DISCUSSION ALL DAY. I
DID KEEP YOU ABOUT 15 MINUTES
LATE, SO APOLOGIES FOR THAT. I
WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR .
YOUR PARTICIPATION. SENIOR
DEPUTY MAYOR, GREAT TO HAVE YOU
WITH US FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE
DAY AND YOU GOT SUNSHINE OVER
THERE, I DO NOT. I HOPE YOU ALL
GET OUT THERE AND GET SOME
SUNSHINE IN THE LAST HOUR OR TWO
TWO YEAR OF THE DAY. WE WILL HAE
OUR NEXT MEETING TOMORROW
MORNING AT 9:30 A.M. THIS WILL
BE THE FINAL DAY FOR US TO GO
THROUGH THE PRESENTATIONS THAT
ARE REMAINING. INCLUDING THE
HUMAN SERVICE DEPARTMENT.
INCLUDING A CATEGORY FOCUSED ON
HOMELESS SPENDING. THE SECOND
THING IS THE ENCAMPMENTS AND
CLEANUP PROPOSAL UNDER THE TITLE
TITLE FULL OF THE UNIFIED CARE
TEAM. AND CLEAN SEATTLE. WE WILL
WILL ALSO HAVE THE REMAINING
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS WHICH
INCLUDE LAW, OEM, OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, OFFICE OF
INSPECTOR GENERAL, SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION AND
INSPECTION AND SEATTLE FIRE DEP.
FIRE DEPARTMENT. THAT WILL ROUND
ROUND OUT OUR CONVERSATION FOR
THE FULL DAY. WE HAVE ASKED FOR
CENTRAL STAFF AS WELL AS TO HELS
HELP US COMPILE A LIST TO COMPAE
TO COMPARE DEPARTMENT INCREASES
AND DECREASES SO WE CAN SEE A
SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON OF NET .
NET COMPARISONS. I THINK THAT
WILL BE HELPFUL AS YOU GO INTO
CONSIDERING AMENDMENTS FOR
OCTOBER 17th AT 2:00 P.M. IF
THERE IS NO OBJECTION, HOUR-LONG
HOUR-LONG MEETING FOR TODAY WILL
WILL BE ADJOURNED. HEARING NO
OBJECTION, TODAY'S MEETING IS A.
IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL VERY
VERY MUCH FOR MAKING TODAY
POSSIBLE. TAKE CARE, HAVE A GOO.
GOOD EVENING.