>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
TODAY IS MAY 31st, AT 2:00.
WILL THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL
MEETING PLEASE COME TO ORDER?
IT IS TO: 01, I AM COUNCIL
PRESIDENT JUAREZ.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> YOUR.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> YEAR.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT JUAREZ?
>> HERE.
>> SEVEN PRESENT.
>> I'M SO SORRY.
I'M PRESENT AS WELL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA IS
HERE.
NOW WE CAN GET STARTED.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA IS HERE.
WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA OF
PRESENTATIONS.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY
PRESENTATIONS TODAY.
NEXT IS THE ADOPTION OF THE
INTRODUCTION REFERRAL CALENDAR.
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION THE
INTRODUCTION REFERRAL CALENDAR
WILL BE ADOPTED.
I'M HEARING AND SEEING NO
OBJECTION.
THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL
CALENDAR IS INDEED ADOPTED.
MOVING ALONG ON OUR AGENDA, WE
MOVE TO THE ADOPTION OF THE
CONSENT CALENDAR.
WE WILL NOW CONSIDER THE
PROPOSED CONSENT CALENDAR.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ANY
COUNCILMEMBER WOULD LIKE TO
REMOVE FROM TODAY'S CONSENT
CALENDAR?
ALL RIGHT.
I'M HEARING NONE.
I MOVED TO ADOPT THE CONSENT
CALENDAR.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
ADOPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE ADOPTION OF THE
CONSENT CALENDAR?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS?
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT JUAREZ?
>> AYE.
THAT IS ADOPTED AND WILL YOU
PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO
THE CONSENT CALENDAR ON MY
BEHALF.
MOVING ON TO THE APPROVAL OF
THE AGENDA.
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION THE
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED.
I'M HEARING AND SEEING NO
OBJECTION.
I'M SORRY.
THE AGENDA CALENDAR IS ADOPTED.
ALL RIGHT.
AT THIS POINT, FRIENDS AND
COLLEAGUES, WE MOVE TO THE
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE
REMOTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON
ITEMS ON THE CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA, INTRODUCTION AND
REFERRAL CALENDAR, AND THE
COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM.
HE REMAINS A STRONG INTENT OF
THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE REMOTE
PUBLIC COMMENTS REGULARLY
INCLUDED ON MEETING AGENDAS.
AS A REMINDER THE CITY COUNCIL
RESERVES THE RIGHT TO END OR
ELIMINATE THESE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIODS AT ANY POINT IF WE DEEM
THAT THE SYSTEM IS BEING ABUSED
OR IS NO LONGER SUITABLE FOR
ALLOWING OUR MEETINGS TO BE
CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND
EFECTIVELY.
MADAM CLERK, I UNDERSTAND WE
HAVE 45 PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> WE WILL MODERATE THE GENERAL
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
I WILL HAND IT OFF TO MADAM
CLERK TO READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.
MADAM CLERK?
>> THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS
UP TO 20 MINUTES.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GETTING
ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK.
THE SPEAKERS ARE CALLED UPON IN
THE ORDER WHICH THEY REGISTERED
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THE WEBSITE.
EACH SPEAKER MUST CALL IN FROM
THE PHONE NUMBER PROVIDED WHEN
REGISTERED AND USE THE I.D.
AND PASSCODE THAT WAS EMAILED
TO THEM UPON CONFIRMATION.
THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE
GENERAL MEETING LISTED ON THE
AGENDA.
IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE AN EMAIL
CONFIRMATION PLEASE CHECK YOUR
SPAM OR JUNK MAIL FOLDERS.
ONCE A SPEAKER'S NAME IS CALLED
THE STAFF WILL UNMUTE THE
APPROPRIATE MICROPHONE AND AN
AUTOMATIC PROMPT WILL BE HEARD
AND IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.
THE SPEAKER MUST PRESS STAR AND
SIX TO BEGIN SPEAKING.
SAY YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM THAT
YOU ARE ADDRESSING.
THE SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME
WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT IN THE
ALLOTTED TIME.
ONCE YOU HEAR THAT CHIME WE
WILL ASK THAT YOU BEGIN TO WRAP
UP YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF SPEAKERS DO NOT AND THEIR
PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF
THE ALLOTTED TIME PROVIDED THE
SPEAKERS MICROPHONE WILL BE
MUTED TO ALLOW US TO CALL ON
THE NEXT SPEAKER.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT WE ASK THAT YOU
PLEASE DISCONNECT FROM THE
LINE.
IF YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE TO
FOLLOW THIS MEETING PLEASE USE
THE LISTENING OPTIONS LISTED ON
THE AGENDA.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS
NOW OPEN AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH
THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO PRESS STAR
AND SIX AFTER YOU HEAR THE
PROMPT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ON
MUTED.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS HOWARD
GAIL.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, HOWARD GAIL
WITH SEATTLE.ORG, COMMENTING ON
THE FAILED POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM.
LAST WEEK WE MARKED THE SECOND
ANNIVERSARY OF GEORGE FLOYD'S
MORE MURDER, WHICH SHOOK
POLITICIANS FROM THEIR
COMPLACENCY WITH THE PROMISES
OF REAL POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE HAVE SEEN MOMENTS LIKE THIS
BEFORE. IN LESS THAN THREE
WEEKS, JUNE 18th, WILL BECOME
THE FIFTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE
SPD MURDER OF A PREGNANT MOTHER
OF FOUR YOUNG CHILDREN.
YES, THE FIFTH ANNIVERSARY.
AN EARTH SHATTERING MOMENT THAT
SHOOK POLITICIANS AWAKE TO MAKE
THE SAME COMMITMENTS TO POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY THAT WERE ONLY
TO BE RECYCLED THREE YEARS
LATER AFTER GEORGE FLOYD.
WE NOW KNOW THESE EXPRESSIONS
WERE HOLLOW, AS THEY WERE
FERVENT, BECAUSE SPD WENT ON TO
KILL SEVERAL MORE PEOPLE, ALL
PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL
HEALTH CRISES.
IF YOU WANT TO PAY JUSTICE TO
THE MEMORY OF LILES, PLEASE ACT
ON THOSE PROCLAMATIONS.
>> HER NEXT SPEAKER IS ANGIE.
>> HELLO.
MY NAME IS ANGIE AND I'M A
LANDLORD IN BALLARD PLAY,
PLEASE VOTE NO. WE ARE LOSING
TOO MANY RENTAL PROPERTIES
DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE ONGOING
TSUNAMI OF LEGISLATION.
AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE -- THIS
WILL NOT YIELD QUALITY DATA AND
IS NOT RECOMMENDED.
ESSENTIAL STAFF HIGHLIGHTED THAT
THIS REQUIRES MANY NEW AND
ONGOING COSTS THAT CITY
DEPARTMENTS ARE BEING ASKED TO
TURN THEIR BUDGET.
YOU FOUNDED A RENTAL HOUSING
STUDY AND A STAKEHOLDER GROUP
LAST FALL AND IT HAS BEEN TOO
OVERWHELMED TO EVEN GET STARTED
YET.
NUMEROUS GRASSROOTS LANDLORDS
HAVE SPOKEN IN OPPOSITION, ONLY
TO BE LANDLOCKED BY THE CHAIR
OF THE RENTERS RIGHTS
COMMITTEE, WHO DESCRIBED OUR
CONSTRUCTIVE INPUT AS
FACETIOUS, MAKING NO SENSE,
SPECULATIVE, AND UNFOUNDED.
WE ARE PROVIDING A NUMBER OF
RENTAL HOUSING OPTIONS YET THE
COUNCIL CONTINUES TO EXCLUDE
US.
PLEASE VOTE NO.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BRIAN
RODRIGUEZ.
>> HELLO.
I AM BASED IN SEATTLE.
I AM SAVING UP TO GO BACK TO
SCHOOL WITHOUT HAVING DEPEND ON
MY PARENTS AND FAMILY.
ALL OF US ARE GOING THROUGH A
HARD TIME RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY
WITH THE PANDEMIC NUMBER RISING
GAS PRICES, AND INFLATION.
NOT HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN MY
EDUCATION AND MAKING MONEY HAS
MADE THIS EASIER AND I WANTED
TO STAY THAT WAY.
I STAND BEFORE YOU BECAUSE I
WORRY THAT THE CURRENT PAYOUT
PROPOSAL IS PROBLEMATIC.
IF WE ARE PASSING PROPOSALS TO
HELP HASHERS I WANT TO KNOW THE
THAT OUR LEGISLATORS HAVE DONE
EVERYTHING NECESSARY TO MAKE
SURE IT ACTUALLY DOES END UP
HELPING US, NOT HURTING US.
I ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO
TAKE MORE TIME TO STUDY SO THAT
YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THE PROPOSAL
BEFORE PASSING IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JUSTIN.
>> ON THE DIRECTOR OF THE SAME-
DAY DELIVERY PLATFORM.
I AM EXPRESSING THE CONCERN
ABOUT COUNSEL BILL 1202 94.
THE LOCAL SHARING ECONOMY,
WHICH IS A SOURCE OF CRUCIAL
LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MANY
IN SEATTLE.
THIS MEASURE IS BEING
CONSIDERED WITHOUT, AND PRIOR
TO ANY EFFORT FROM THE CITY THE
STUDY THE IMPACTS.
INCLUDING THE REAL POSSIBILITY
THAT IT DIMINISHES THE FLEXIBLE
LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
WORKERS, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER
OF DELIVERY ORDERS FROM LOCAL
STORES.
FLEXIBILITY IS AT THE CORE OF
OUR EFFORT BASED APPROACH, MANY
SHOPPERS USE OUR PLATFORM AS A
WAY TO EARN SIDE INCOME WHILE
ENSURING THEY HAVE TIME TO
PURSUE THE THINGS THEY VALUE IN
LIFE.
TO THIS END 75% OF OUR SHOPPERS
CHOOSE TO WORK LESS THAN 10
HOURS PER WEEK PER SHIFT.
SOME WORK MORE THAN 40 HOURS A
WEEK AND EARN ON AVERAGE MORE
THAN $67,000 A YEAR.
WE EXPRESS OUR CONCERN WITH
THIS ORDINANCE AND I WOULD ASK
THAT YOU PLEASE KEEP THE
CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY THE
IMPACTED COMPANIES OF THIS
MEASURE.
THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT CALLER IS ANNA
POWELL.
>> HELLO.
I REPRESENT DOOR DASH.
WE ARE HERE TODAY OPPOSED TO
THE PAYOFF ORDINANCE.
DOOR DASH HAS SUPPORTED MINIMUM
EARNING STANDARDS BEFORE.
BUT THE PAYOUT PROPOSAL
CALCULATED THAT 189% OF
SEATTLE'S MINIMUM WAGE, BEHOLD
FOR TIPS, FOR AN AVERAGE
DELIVERY, IS JUST TOO HIGH.
IT WILL RAISE COSTS ON
CUSTOMERS BY UP TO FIVE DOLLARS
, REDUCE ORDERS FROM MERCHANTS,
AND SHRINK EARNING
OPPORTUNITIES FOR DASHES.
THIS IS A POLICY IN SEARCH OF A
PROBLEM.
DANCERS IN SEATTLE ALREADY
EARN, ON AVERAGE, $28 AN HOUR
ON DELIVERY.
FINALLY, DOOR DASH HAS HEARD
FROM MORE THAN 16,000 OF YOUR
CONSTITUENTS, WHO HAVE
SUBMITTED LETTERS, ASKING YOU
TO HALT THE PROPOSAL AND STUDY
ITS IMPACTS BEFORE PASSING IT.
WE ASK THAT THE COUNCIL -- AND
BETTER UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF
THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE PASSING IT
TODAY.
THANK YOU.
>> RICHARD IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
>> MY NAME IS RICHARD. I LIVE
IN DISTRICT 1. I'M A PERSONAL
CHEF AND I HAVE USED ROVER
SINCE 2018 TO MANAGE MY
BUSINESS ON THE SIDE.
I HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER MY
RATES, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE FAIR
, FOR THE SERVICES I PROVIDE.
I WANT TO SHARE A COMMON TODAY
TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO THE
PUBLIC SAFETY AND HUMAN
SERVICES COMMITTEE FOR PASSING
AMENDMENT TWO AND THREE ON MAY
24th.
THESE AMENDMENTS PROTECT ME AND
OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS FROM
BURDENSOME REGULATIONS, WHICH
DOES NOT REFLECT THE TYPE OF
SERVICE WE PROVIDE AND WOULD
NOT HAVE BENEFITED US.
I'M RELIEVED THE IS MEANT MEN'S
WERE PASSED AND I ENCOURAGE YOU
TO VOTE YES TO THE BILL AS
AMENDED LAST WEEK.
THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING HOW
THIS BILL WOULD HAVE HURT PET
SITTERS IN RESPONDING TO THE
CALL TO CHANGE IT.
>> NEXT SPEAKER.
>> HELLO.
I AM AN INSTACART SHOPPER.
I'M TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF
THE PAYABLE POLICY AND ASK THAT
YOU PASS IT.
WE GET IN ADVERSARIAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GIG
COMPANIES.
WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY
THEY HAVE PROVIDED AND WE SHARE
A COMMON GOAL, SERVING THE
PEOPLE OF SEATTLE.
I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE LIVED IN
A WORLD WHERE BUSINESSES ALWAYS
DID THE RIGHT THING.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT GIG
COMPANIES CONTINUE TO PAY THE
LOWEST AMOUNT POSSIBLE UNLESS
YOU PASS PAY UP TODAY.
WE WORKERS EARN LESS THAN A
MINIMUM WAGE AND EXIST OFF OF
TIPS.
CUSTOMERS PAY GENEROUS TIPS AND
FEES AND ARE UNAWARE OF HOW MUCH
THEY ARE ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTING.
GROCERY STORES AND RESTAURANTS
PAY, WHEN USING THE THIRD-PARTY
APP.
AT THE GIG COMPANIES DO NOT
PAY.
THEY DO NOT PAY THE SEATTLE
MINIMUM WAGE 1727 BEFORE TIP.
IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF GIG
COMPANIES TO PAY A FAIR WAGE
AND TO DO SO WITHOUT RAGING AND
RETALIATING AGAINST WORKERS.
I URGE YOU TO PASS THE PAY UP
TODAY.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS
CHARLOTTE THISTLE.
>> I'M A HOMEOWNER WHO HAS
PROVIDED AFFORDABLE RENTAL
HOUSING IN MY HOME FOR 15 YEARS
IN SEATTLE AND I'M LEAVING.
I'M LEAVING BECAUSE THE CITY OF
SEATTLE HAS TAKEN A HOSTILE
STANCE TO PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO
PROVIDE A NATURALLY AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
I'M GOING TO SELL MY HOUSE AND
I'M GOING TO MOVE TO PORTLAND
OREGON.
PORTLAND HAS RENTAL REGULATIONS
TOO BUT THEIR RULES ARE A LOT
MORE REASONABLE AND THEY HAVE
EXEMPTIONS FOR HOMEOWNERS,
INCLUDING HOMEOWNERS WITH A DUS.
THIS WILL A COMPASS WITH --
THIS APPROACH WILL NOT YIELD
QUALITY DATA.
THERE'S JUST MORE RED TAPE.
IT IS PILED ONTO SMALL HOUSING
PROVIDERS WHO ARE ALREADY
CARRYING THE WEIGHT OF A
STUNNING 15 NEW PIECES OF
LEGISLATION IMPACTING US IN
JUST THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
THIS BILL WILL NOT PROMOTE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
ALL IT WILL DO IS APPEAR TO
CATER TO TENANTS INTERESTS
WITHOUT AFFECTING ANY POSITIVE
CHANGE.
VOTE NO.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BRITNEY.
>> HELLO.
I REPRESENT THE WASHINGTON
TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
. A NONPROFIT COMPRISE OF OVER
1100 MEMBER COMPANIES IN
WASHINGTON STATE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO TESTIFY ON COUNSEL BILL
120294.
WE SUPPORT THE NEED FOR GIG
WORKERS TO MAKE A LIVABLE WAGE.
OUR MEMBERS HAVE PROVIDED YOU
WITH EVIDENCE THAT THEIR
WORKERS EARN, ON AVERAGE, A
WAGE OF $25-$30 AN HOUR.
HOWEVER WITH THE PROPOSED RISK
REGULATIONS, WILL LIKELY RESULT
IN A REDUCED DEMAND FOR
SERVICES IN SEATTLE AND REDUCE
BUSINESS EARNINGS.
WITHOUT A THOROUGH ASSESSMENT
ACROSS THE COUNTY WE CANNOT
SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION.
A STATEWIDE REGULATION WOULD
AVOID CREATING WINNERS AND
LOSERS FOR BOTH DRIVERS AND
LOCAL BUSINESSES.
-- DEMONSTRATES THIS GOAL CAN
BE MET WITHOUT DISRUPTING
WORKERS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES.
THANK YOU.
>> THIRD-GENERATION MINORITY
HOUSING PROVIDER IN DISTRICT 2
AND THREE.
COUNSEL BILL 120325 IS ANOTHER
EXAMPLE OF CUMBERSOME
POLICYMAKING.
IT'S NOT A COLLABORATIVE
APPROACH FOR SMALL HOUSING
PROVIDERS.
THIS BILL WILL NOT ACCOMPLISH
ITS GOALS AND CREATE WORSE
REGULATIONS.
THIS IS A BLATANT OVERREACH OF
GOVERNMENTAL POWER.
IT PUSHES MOM AND POP PROVIDERS
OUT OF THE MARKET AND IT'S A
DIRECT REFLECTION OF POLICY
DECISIONS THIS CAPITAL HAS MADE.
THIS IS A PRELIMINARY STEP IN
IN AN ATTEMPT TO PASS --
>> JENNIFER, WE WILL COME BACK
TO YOU.
THERE YOU GO, JENNIFER.
>> IS HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE.
>> JENNIFER?
WE HEAR YOU.
JENNIFER, PLEASE PRESS STAR AND
SIX ONE LAST TIME.
WE HAD YOU FOR A MOMENT.
>> I'M A SECOND GENERATION
HOUSING PROVIDER.
I OWN AND MANAGE 15 HOUSING
UNITS. THEY ARE MADE UP OF
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND
DUPLESSIS.
I'M A SINGLE WOMAN WHO OWNS AND
MANAGES THESE PROPERTIES
MYSELF.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS --
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS
AND MYSELF.
EVEN IF I HAD ACCESS TO MY
UTILITY INFORMATION, WHICH I DO
NOT, THEY DO NOT WANT THIS
INFORMATION OR ANY DATA ON
THEIR PERSONAL LIVING HABITS
AND DECISIONS GIVEN TO THE
PUBLIC OR USED IN A STUDY.
THE AMOUNT THEY PAY, THE SPACE
THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO RENT, THE
UTILITY USAGE, ET CETERA, THIS
IS PRIVATE INFORMATION.
THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO IT
REMAINING PRIVATE.
THE FACT THAT YOU SAY DATA WILL
BE ANALYZED BY AN UNSPECIFIED
SCHOOL GROUP IS UNSETTLING.
A PROFESSIONAL POLICY
ORGANIZATION HAS MORE
EXPERIENCE KEEPING PRIVATE
INFORMATION SAFE AND FREE OF
DATA LEAKS.
THINK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MAGNOLIA.
>> HELLO.
I'M A GIG WORKER AND I'M
CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE PAY
UP CAMPAIGN.
THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD FOR SPONSORING THIS AND
COLLABORATING WITH WORKERS TO
MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL PROTECTED.
ALL WORKERS DESERVE A LIVING
WAGE, WHETHER IT'S WORKING IN
TECH, MEDICINE, OR THE GIG
ECONOMY.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO
PROTECTIONS IN PLACE IN SEATTLE
THAT ENSURE THAT GIG WORKERS
ARE PAID MINIMUM WAGE, MUCH
LESS THE LIVING WAGE.
MANY WORKERS PROVIDING SERVICES
ARE PAID FAR BELOW WHAT WE
SHOULD BE.
EVEN BEFORE PAYING TAXES AND
THE COST OF SERVICES, LIKE CAR
MAINTENANCE, IS NOT NEARLY
ENOUGH TO PAY FOR RENT AND FOOD
IN THE CITY.
WE ARE WORKING OVERTIME AND
PUTTING OURSELVES INTO
DANGEROUS SITUATIONS.
MEANWHILE OTHERS ARE REPORTING
HUGE PROFITS.
PROFITS IN SPITE OF THE WORKERS
NOT MAKING DECENT WAGES.
MY RENT IS DUE AND I NEED TO
EAT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TIFFANY.
>> A GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS TIFFANY AND I WORK
WITH INSTACART.
I'M COMMENTING ON COUNSEL BILL
120294.
WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS
PROCESS SINCE COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD SHARED HER INTENT TO
INTRODUCE THIS LEGISLATION 11
MONTHS AGO.
ADMITTEDLY WE HAVE COME A LONG
WAY SINCE THE BEGINNING BUT THE
PROPOSAL REMAINS EXTREMELY
PROBLEMATIC FOR EVERYONE ON THE
PLATFORMS.
WE EXPECT AN INCREASE IN COST
FOR CONSUMERS, WHICH IN TURN
MEANS A DECREASE IN COMMAND FOR
SERVICES OFFERED ON THE PLATFORM
AND A DECREASE IN EARNINGS FOR
SHOPPERS.
THIS IS A NECESSITY FOR
COUNTLESS UNSEEN CUSTOMERS IN
SEATTLE.
WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEES ADOPTION LAST WEEK,
THESE AMENDMENTS DO NOT GO FAR
ENOUGH.
GROCERY IS DIFFERENT.
SHOPPERS ON OUR PLATFORM NEED
FOOD AND ESSENTIALS.
CUSTOMERS ARE OFTEN UNABLE TO
SHOP ON THEIR OWN FOR A VARIETY
OF REASONS, INCLUDING LACK OF
TRANSPORTATION, ILLNESS,
DISABILITY, AND MORE.
THIS ORDINANCE WILL HAVE AN
UNINTENDED HARMFUL CONSEQUENCE.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHELLE.
>> HELLO.
THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD FOR SPONSORING THIS
BILL AND ALL THE WORK THAT HAS
GONE INTO GETTING IT WHERE IT
IS TODAY.
-- [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DEAN
JOHNSON.
>> HELLO.
I AM HERE TO REQUEST YOU VOTE
NO ON CB 120325.
I'VE BEEN A SMALL LANDLORD FOR
15 YEARS, UP UNTIL 2021 WHERE I
CLOSED MY FINAL RENTAL.
-- I HAD THE LARGEST INFLUX OF
CLIENTS LAST YEAR AND THEY ALL
STATED CONCERNS AND FRUSTRATION
OVER THE CITY COUNCILS
RESTRICTIONS, LAWS, ET CETERA.
[ INAUDIBLE ] -- DUE TO
ORDINANCES LIKE 120325.
I URGE THAT YOU VOTE NO.
RENTERS ARE LOSING MORE
AFFORDABLE HOMES.
INCLUDE SMALL LANDLORDS IN THE
CONVERSATION BEFORE IT'S TOO
LATE.
>> OUR NEXT CALLER IS BRUCE
BECKER.
>> THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK., SMALL
LANDLORD AND I'M CALLING TO
ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST
THE COUNSEL BILL THAT IS
REQUIRING HOUSING PROVIDERS TO
DISCLOSE NUMEROUS BITS OF
INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY
EVERY SIX MONTHS.
EVERY SIX MONTHS IS A
TREMENDOUS BURDEN FOR A SMALL
LANDLORD LIKE ME.
I HAVE TO COMPLETE A REPORT
FREQUENTLY AND COME UP WITH ALL
KINDS OF DIFFERENT BITS OF
INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
WHAT THIS DOES IS IT DRIVES
SMALL LANDLORDS, LIKE ME, OUT.
WE ARE LOSING RENTAL UNITS AS A
RESULT.
THIS IS NOT WHAT WORKS IN THE
BEST INTEREST OF ANYONE.
YOU HEARD ONE LANDLORD EARLIER
TODAY SPEAKING ABOUT HOW THERE
IS A PLAN TO MOVE PROPERTY IN
SEATTLE OUT-OF-STATE.
IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
EVERYONE PLEASE VOTE NO AGAINST
COUNSEL BILL 120325.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SHELBY
HANSEN.
>> I'M SHELBY AND I WORK FOR
ROVER, WHO CREATE A -- WHEN
THREE COUNCILMEMBERS -- BEING
USED BY GIG COMPANIES TO LINE
THEIR POCKETS OFF OF THE BACK
OF POOR, DISENFRANCHISED, AND
DISABLED PEOPLE.
IT WAS A SMACK IN MY FACE. IT'S
NOT THE FIRST TIME PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES HAVE NOT BEEN
TREATED WITH DIGNITY OR PAID
FAIRLY.
HAVING THIS ABILITY TO BE PAID
MINIMUM WAGES.
I HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
-- CONTINUE TO OPPRESS PEOPLE
WITH DISABILITIES HAVE IN THEIR
HEART TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS AND
NOT PERSECUTE US.
ALL GIG WORKERS NEED TO BE
INCLUDED IN PAY UP.
WHILE DOGS ARE INSURED THE
ROVER GUARANTY -- HUGE MEDICAL
BILLS.
AS A SEATTLE-BASED COMPANY YOU
WOULD THINK ROVER WOULD TREAT
SEATTLE WORKERS BETTER.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT JUAREZ,
THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR
THE FIRST 20 MINUTES ALLOTTED.
WE HAVE 31 REMAINING PUBLIC
SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME.
>> WILL EXTEND THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE
REMAINDER OF THE CALLERS.
ONE MINUTE EACH.
>> THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ELIZABETH
JACKSON.
>> HELLO.
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH JACKSON.,
DASHER.
I'M CALLING ABOUT PAY UP.
I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER SIX
YEARS AGO, LIVER.
MY DOCTOR TOLD ME I COULD NOT
WORK.
I WAS A PARAMEDIC.
DOOR DASH CAME ALONG SIX YEARS
AGO AND I STARTED WORKING FOR
THEM.
I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT WORKS IN
MY FAMILY SINCE THIS EPIDEMIC.
IF IT WASN'T FOR DOOR DASH ME
AND MY FAMILY WOULD BE HOMELESS.
THE FLEXIBILITY OF THIS JOB
GIVES ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO
TO MY DOCTOR ANYTIME HE CALLS
FROM A TRANSPLANT.
I HAVE TO TAKE A BLOOD WORK
CONSTANTLY.
I SERVED MY COUNTRY.
I WAS A PARAMEDIC FOR 25 YEARS,
I SAVED LIVES MY WHOLE LIFE.
I COULD NOT JUST STOP WORKING.
DOOR DASH HAS KEPT ME AND MY
FAMILY IN MY HOME.
I CAN STILL WORK, I CAN STILL
SEE MY DOCTOR.
I DON'T DO CHEMO AND RADIATION.
I DO THIS NATURAL.
THE GRACE OF GOD.
IF I LOSE DOOR DASH I DON'T
KNOW WHERE I WOULD BE.
I REALLY NEED THIS JOB.
>> THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KATE.
KATE, YOU ARE ON MUTE.
IF YOU CAN PRESS STAR AND SIX
PLEASE.
>> KATE, ARE YOU THERE?
BOTTOM CLERK, GO TO THE NEXT
PERSON AND COME BACK TO KATE
MARTIN.
>> OKAY.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KIMBERLY
WOLF.
KIMBERLY WOLF.
YOU CAN PRESS STAR AND SIX
PLEASE.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> WE CAN.
>> OKAY.
TO THE CALLER WHO HAS CANCER, I
HOPE THEY PASS THIS PAY UP
BECAUSE YOU WILL BE EVEN BETTER
OFF WHILE RETAINING FLEXIBILITY.
IT'S THOSE KINDS OF STORIES
THAT WE HAVE HEARD SO MANY
TIMES IN CRAFTING THIS
LEGISLATION.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS A
CHANCE THAT DOES NOT COME
AROUND VERY OFTEN.
IT'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE FOR
LABOR AND FOR SMALL BUSINESS AT
THE SAME TIME.
WE GIG WORKERS ARE TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF SMALL BUSINESSES
TRYING TO TURN A PROFIT AND WE
ARE WORKERS SEEKING BASIC
PROTECTIONS.
THE GIG COMPANIES WILL TELL YOU
CAN'T AFFORD IT, PRICES WILL GO
UP, WE HAVE PAID MORE THAN
MINIMUM, IT WILL CURTAIL
FLEXIBILITY.
THE MOST LAUGHABLE, THE GIG
WORKERS WILL GET LESS WORK.
THIS IS ALL COMPLETE HOGWASH.
DO NOT FALL FOR THE PROPAGANDA
AND MISDIRECTION.
EVERY GIG WORKER WHO WORKS 40
HOURS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PAY
THEIR BASIC BILLS.
NO GIG WORKER SHOULD BE IN THE
POSITION TO GET BY ON SUB
MINIMUM WAGES WHILE
MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR COMPANIES
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF VULNERABLE
POPULATIONS.
PLEASE PASS.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOEL
KRAFT.
AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO
KATE MARTIN.
>> HELLO.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES WE CAN.
>> HELLO.
I WORK FOR ROVER.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY
COUNCILMEMBER, LISA, FOR THIS
LEGISLATION.
THEY START US IN POVERTY WAGES
AT THE ROVER AND THEN TAKE A
25% CUT OF THAT ENTIRE PROCESS.
IF I ADD FEES CUSTOMERS WILL
DROP ME BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT
EXPECTING IT.
THE FLEXIBILITY IS CRITICAL.
AS A DISABLED WOMAN WHO HAS
FAST TRACKED ON DISABILITY I
NEED TO KNOW THE LOCATION AND
NOT THE AREA FOR THE MILEAGE.
I NEED TO KNOW THE TIME THAT IS
ALLOTTED THAT THEY EXPECT ME TO
BE THERE.
I NEED EXTRA MONEY FOR MEDS AND
OTHER STUFF THAT IS ALL LAST
MINUTE.
THE REPUTATION OF THE WORKERS
AT ROVER IS ON THE LINE BECAUSE
THEY ARE GETTING SUCH A BAD
REPUTATION.
DON'T THROW US UNDER THE BUS
AND KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT JUST
ABOUT US, BUT THE ANIMALS THAT
ARE BEING AFFECTED BY THE
POLICY.
WE ARE HUMANS, NOT RESOURCES TO
THROW AWAY.
>> WE WILL GO BACK TO KATE
MARTIN.
KATE MARTIN?
>> KATE, ARE YOU THERE?
OKAY.
LET'S KEEP GOING AND WE WILL
PUT KATE ON THE SIDE UNTIL HE
COME BACK TO HER.
>> OKAY.
WE ARE NOW AT JAMES THOMAS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
CITY COUNCIL.
HELLO?
>> HELLO.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.
YOU ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO THROW
US UNDER THE BUS.
YOU HAVE TO BE SUPER DELUSIONARY
TO STEAL MORE MONEY FROM US.
YOU STOLE SO MUCH THAT YOU'RE
NOW ADDICTED. WHAT ARE YOU GOING
TO REAP FROM FURTHER DELAYING
THE PAYMENT POLICY?
I KNOW, MORE MONEY FOR THE ON
NEEDY, GREEDY FOLKS INSTEAD OF
THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF DRIVERS
WHO NEED MORE AS PRICES ARE
CLIMBING HIGHER AND HIGHER. YOU
WILL PUSH US TO THE EDGE INTO
THE BLACK HOLE OF DEBT AND
DESPAIR.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD FOR HELPING US ON THIS
ROAD THAT WE TRAVEL ON.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DANIEL
BANNON.
>> MY NAME IS DANIEL BANNON,
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
RENTAL HOUSING ASSOCIATION OF
WASHINGTON.
WE REPRESENT OVER 5000 SMALL
HOUSING PROVIDERS ACROSS THE
STATE, MANY OF WHICH ARE IN
SEATTLE.
I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON CB
120325.
THIS WILL PLAY AN UNNECESSARY
BURDEN ON EVERY HOUSING
PROVIDER IN THE CITY TO PROVIDE
PRIVATE INFORMATION FOR THE
CITY'S PURPOSES.
ACCORDING TO A MEMO RECEIVED BY
THE CITY COUNCIL MANDATORY DATA-
GATHERING OFTEN RESULT IN
INACCURATE AND UNRELIABLE DATA.
FURTHERMORE, INVOLVING THE CITY
AND PRIVATE CONTRACTS BETWEEN
TWO CONSENTING INDIVIDUALS IS
THE VIOLATION OF THE PRIVACY OF
THE HOUSING PROVIDER AND TENANT.
WE HAVE CONTINUALLY EXPRESSED
DESIRE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO
IMPROVE THE MARKET.
IMPOSING ADMINISTRATIVE BURDENS
IS NOT GOING TO HELP SOLVE OUR
HOUSING CRISIS IN ANY WAY.
ADDITIONALLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS,
WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THIS DATA
WILL BE USED TO PUSH AN ANTI-
DENSITY AGENDA AND THERE ARE
BETTER WAYS TO GO ABOUT
COLLECTING DATA THAT INVOLVE
PARTNERING WITH THE INDUSTRY
INSTEAD OF MANDATORY
PARTICIPATION.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
I AM A FORMER DELIVERY DRIVER
FOR UBER.
THE DRAWBACKS NO LONGER MAKE IT
WORTHWHILE.
THE STANDARD FARE WAS ALREADY
LOW WHEN I BEGAN IN 2017.
IT HAS EFFECTIVELY BEEN CUT
WITH INFLATION.
UBER HAS RECENTLY PROVIDED US
WITH AN EXTRA $.35 PER TRIP TO
COMPENSATE INFLATING FUEL
PRICES.
THIS GESTURE IS NOT ENOUGH.
WE NEED A REAL MILEAGE COST
ACCOUNTED FOR.
WE NEED MILD COMPENSATION.
NOT AN ARBITRARY PAY BUMP BY
UBER.
MANY JOBS WOULD LEAVE ME WITH
ONLY THREE OR FOUR DOLLARS
AFTER 30 TO 45 MINUTES.
THE EXACT TIP AMOUNTS ON UBER
IS NOT VISIBLE UNTIL AFTER THE
TRIP IS COMPLETED.
REQUIRING THE TIPS TO BE
VISIBLE ON EACH TRIP WOULD SAVE
TIME WITH NO CONSEQUENCES.
IT WOULD CREATE A PAY STANDARD
SO THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE TO
GUESS.
-- IT IS MEANT TO AID US AND IT
IS TIME TO MAKE IT INTO LAW.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID.
>> MY NAME IS DAVID.
I'M A SMALL BUSINESS LANDLORD.
I'M ALSO DISABLED. THE NEW LAWS
THAT THE CITY ARE PASSING ARE
MAKING IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR
MYSELF OR OTHER SMALL LANDLORDS
FROM BEING ABLE TO HAVE
BUSINESSES HERE.
PLEASE VOTE NO ON CB 120325.
KEY PROTECTIONS FOR SMALL
BUSINESS LANDLORD'S, SUCH AS
MYSELF.
THANK YOU.
BYE.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER HAS AN
INTERPRETER.
>> WERE WE GOING TO LET THE
INTERPRETER, HOW ARE WE GOING
TO DO THIS?
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
>> CAN WE CONFIRM THAT THE
INTERPRETER IS AVAILABLE?
>> [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> NO CHILD WAS LEFT -- TO HELP
BETTER ACADEMIC RESULTS.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE CITY OF
SEATTLE TO SHOW ESSENTIAL
WORKERS AND GIG COMPANIES THAT
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW AND WE
DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED BY
THESE LAWS.
THIS LAW WAS ASSIGNED TO
PROTECT EVERYONE AND IT IS NOT
FAIR THAT OUR COLLEAGUES ARE
LEFT OUT FROM PAY UP
LEGISLATION.
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ASK
YOU TO PLEASE PROTECT ALL OF US
AND AVOID LOOPHOLES FOR
COMPANIES TO NOT ABUSE
EMPLOYEES.
WE HAVE TO COVER ALL ESSENTIAL
WORKERS.
>> THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KYLE
MITCHELL.
>> MY NAME IS KYLE MITCHELL.
I'M A DELIVERY PARTNER AND I AM
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
PAYOUT PROPOSAL.
THE GIG WORKERS OF SEATTLE ARE
HEROES.
PERIOD.
I CAN ATTEST TO THE DANGERS
THAT I TAKE UPON MYSELF SO THAT
MY CUSTOMERS, YOUR CITIZENS, DO
NOT HAVE TO.
THESE INCLUDE TRAFFIC DANGERS,
SUCH AS UNSAFE STREETS DUE TO
INCLEMENT WEATHER.
OTHER DRIVERS, WHO EXHIBIT
EXTREME ROAD RAGE. DRIVERS WHO
THINK THEY OWN THE ROAD AND
IGNORE TRAFFIC LAWS, OR DRIVERS
WERE NOT SKILLED ENOUGH TO
HANDLE DRIVING THESE STREETS
AND MAKE POOR CHOICES SUCH AS
TAKING A LEFT TURN FROM THE
RIGHT-HAND LANE OF A THREE LANE
ROAD.
THEN WE GET OUT OF OUR VEHICLES
TO MAKE OUR DELIVERIES AND ARE
SUBJECT TO THE DANGERS OF THE
PEOPLE OF THIS CITY.
THERE IS A LOT OF DESPERATION
ON THE STREETS OF SEATTLE.
DESPERATION CAUSES PEOPLE TO DO
DANGEROUS THINGS.
THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE WHEN
THE SUN GOES DOWN AND WE HAVE
TO CONSTANTLY BE AWARE OF
SEATTLE'S NIGHTLIFE.
PLEASE PASS THIS PROPOSAL AND
BACK TO WORKERS WHOSE LABOR
KEEPS YOUR CITIZENS SAFE.
OUR LABOR IS VALUABLE.
>> NEXT SPEAKER.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
>> YES.
>> I HAVE WORKED AS A GIG
DRIVER SINCE 2025.
I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS
FACING.
I HAVE TO PUT IN 70 TO 80 HOURS
JUST TO GET BY AND EACH ORDER
ONLY PAYS ME FOUR DOLLARS.
THAT DOESN'T EVEN COVER GAS AND
MILEAGE.
PAY UP SHOULD PASS TO MAKE SURE
WE CAN SURVIVE. LET THIS
PROPOSAL PASSED. PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVIS.
>> HELLO.
I AM A GIG WORKER, PRIMARILY
WITH DOOR DASH.
AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF THE
PAYOUT CAMPAIGN.
I WANT TO FIRST THANK
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD FOR
ADVOCATING FOR GIG WORKERS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
CURRENTLY GIG WORKERS IN
SEATTLE ARE NOT MAKING A LIVING
WAGE, RELATIVE TO THE COST OF
LIVING.
IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY COUNCIL
TO RISE UP AND ENACT A PAY
FLOOR FOR US GIG WORKERS.
WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE, OR THE
BEGINNING, OF A RECESSION.
THE COST OF LIVING HAS GONE UP
AND THE PAY IS NOT INCREASING.
WE ARE STILL BEING PAID LESS
THAN MINIMUM WAGE.
TODAY I READ A NEWS REPORT
SAYING THAT DOOR DASH IS
REMOVING THE FUEL SUBSIDIES
THAT THEY ENACTED IN ORDER TO
HELP DRIVERS PAY FOR GAS DURING
THE PANDEMIC.
I FOUND OUT THEY ARE REMOVING
THAT EXTRA CHARGE BUT THEY ARE
STILL CHARGING CUSTOMERS MONEY
TO PAY FOR THE FUEL SUBSIDY.
THIS AMOUNTS TO A PAY CUT IN
THE MIDDLE OF AN ECONOMIC
RECESSION.
WE NEED COUNCILMEMBERS TO --
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARMEN.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
>> YES.
>> THE PAYOUT POLICY HAS BEEN
WRITTEN WITH THE INPUT OF
THOUSANDS OF GIG WORKERS TO BE
FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO ALL
PARTIES.
THE PAYOUT POLICY TAKES THE
FIRST FEW STEPS TO RECOGNIZE
AND RESPECT A GIG WORKERS
HUMANITY BY DEMANDING WORKERS
BE PAID A LIVING WAGE.
PASSING THE PAP POLICY WILL
ALLOW ME TO EARN A WAGE IN
WHICH I CAN THRIVE IN SOCIETY.
I'M ONE OF THE THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE WITH HIDDEN DISABILITIES
THAT DEPEND ON GIG WORK TO MAKE
A LIVING.
THEY NEED AND DESERVE TO BE
PAID A LIVING WAGE.
OUR COMPANIES HAVE MADE
MILLIONS OFF OF MY LABOR AND
HAVE NO INTENTION OF INVESTING
IN ME OR ANY WORKERS.
THEY ARE ACTIVELY LOBBYING FOR
THE ABILITY TO FORCE WORKERS TO
WORK LONGER AND MORE HOURS MORE
FREQUENTLY.
WHILE KEEPING MORE AND MORE OF
THE PROFITS FOR THEMSELVES.
I AM TRUSTING THE COUNCIL TO
PASS THIS WITH NO LOOPHOLES FOR
ME AND THE GIG WORKERS IN
WASHINGTON BECAUSE WE ARE NOT
DISPOSABLE AND SHOULD NOT BE
EXPLOITED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JAKE
LINDSAY.
>> THIS IS JAKE. I HAVE DRIVEN
FOR THESE COMPANIES, DELIVERY
COMPANIES, SINCE THEY FIRST
ARRIVED IN SEATTLE IN 2015,
WHEN THE PAY WAS HIGHER AND THE
COST OF LIVING WAS LOWER.
I'M ALSO A GIG WORKER IN OTHER
INDUSTRIES THAT ARE RAPIDLY
BEING TURNED INTO DYSTOPIAN
LEGAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH A
WORKERS ARE NOT GUARANTEED A
MINIMUM WAGE, LABOR RIGHTS,
BENEFITS, OR ON-THE-JOB
PROTECTIONS.
I URGE THE COUNCIL -- WHO HAVE
SHAMEFULLY AMENDED THIS
LEGISLATION TO LET MANY OF
THESE COMPANIES OFF THE HOOK.
THESE COMPANIES, LIKE ROVER,
THAT SET THEIR OWN RATES AND
SUPPRESS RESULTS OF OUR
SERVICES TO CUSTOMERS IF WE
DON'T FOLLOW THE COMPANY'S
RISING GUIDANCE, WHICH IS TO
SET OUR PRICES UNDER MINIMUM
WAGE.
THE RECENT EXCLUSION OF
THOUSANDS OF SUB MINIMUM WAGE
WORKERS IS STABBING US IN THE
BACK WHILE WE ARE ALREADY BEING
ATTACKED BY THESE COMPANIES.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET
LABOR STANDARDS FOR GIG WORKERS
AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES CAN
REPLICATE.
-- LABOR MOVEMENT.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ROGAN
THOMPSON.
>> YES.
HELLO.
THIS IS ROGAN THOMPSON.
I'M A SMALL HOUSING PROVIDER IN
DISTRICT 3. I HAVE BEEN FOR
ABOUT 40 YEARS.
I'M ON THE FENCE ON COUNSEL
120325 . ALEX PEDERSEN ,
COUNCILMEMBER, I HAVE CONTACTED
YOU MANY TIMES ABOUT WANTING
MORE DATA.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL,
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, HAVE
PASSED A DOZEN BURDEN SOME LAWS
WITHOUT ENOUGH STUDY OR
RESEARCH.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF DATA.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF PARTNERING
WITH THE SMALL HOUSING PROVIDERS
. MAYBE THERE CAN BE AN
AMENDMENT OR SOMETHING TO
ENSURE THERE IS PROPER DATA.
YOU GUYS HAVE MADE A HOUSING
CRISIS INTO HOUSING CHAOS.
I'M GOING TO QUIT AND I'M
SELLING.
THAT'S ALL THANKS TO YOU.
THANK YOU.
BYE-BYE.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS RICH
MORRIS.
>> HELLO.
THIS IS RICH MORRIS.
ON BEHALF OF THE PAYOUT
CAMPAIGN.
13 YEARS AGO I HAD A STROKE AND
I CURRENTLY WORK FOR DOOR DASH.
IT IS CURRENTLY THE ONLY JOB I
CAN DO. I NEED YOU TO FOCUS ON
THE PAYOUT CAMPAIGN TO PROMOTE
A MORE FAIR WAGE FOR EVERYONE
THAT'S DOING IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
GOODBYE.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL
WOLF.
>> HELLO.
I DRIVE FOR A NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATION, REPRESENTING OVER
2500 GIG WORKERS ACROSS SEATTLE
AND WASHINGTON STATE.
I'M HERE TO ASK THAT THE
COUNCIL ACTUALLY DELAY THE VOTE
ON COUNSEL BILL 120294 AND
CONTINUED TO WORK ON IMPROVING
THE LEGISLATION.
IT HAS COME A LONG WAY BUT IT'S
NOT QUITE READY.
WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THE
CURRENT METHOD WILL RESULT IN A
CAP ON EARNINGS FOR GIG WORKERS
AT A MINIMUM WAGE AND NOTHING
MORE.
WE PROPOSED AN ALTERNATIVE
METHOD TO CALCULATE THE STANDARD
THAT WOULD ALLOW THE
FLEXIBILITY AND EARNINGS TO
CONTINUE.
WE URGE THE COUNCIL TO SLOW
DOWN ON THIS BILL AND NOT PASS
IT YET AND CONSIDER OUR
PROPOSAL.
ADDITIONALLY, WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT WE
ARE READY TO WORK ON CONTINUING
TO CREATE A MINIMUM EARNING
STANDARD FOR ALL GIG WORKERS,
INCLUDING THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN
EXCLUDED FROM THIS BILL.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO BE
A SEPARATE PIECE OF LEGISLATION
FOR THE MARKETPLACE.
THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS AARON.
>> HELLO.
I AM REPRESENTING THE
WASHINGTON COALITION FOR
INDEPENDENT WORK COMMITTEE.
OUR COALITION INCLUDES DELIVERY
NETWORK COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE
CRITICAL SERVICES TO THE
COMMUNITY.
MEMBERS HAVE LONG ADVOCATED FOR
MINIMUM EARNING STANDARDS FOR
THEIR INDUSTRY, LIKE THOSE IN
CALIFORNIA, AND A PROPOSED
BALLOT MEMBER IN MASSACHUSETTS
THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE SAME
BENEFITS FOR WORKERS.
WHILE PAY UP HIS WELL-
INTENTIONED IT IS POORLY
DRAFTED.
IT PROPOSES INCREASED COST
WITHOUT REGARD FOR CONSUMERS OR
FOR THE IMPACT ON SMALL
BUSINESSES AND ULTIMATELY THE
DRIVERS THEMSELVES.
IF COSTS FOR DELIVERY SERVICES
ARE ARBITRARILY DRIVEN OUT OF
REACH THROUGH MANDATORY
REGULATION AND THEN EVERYONE
WILL BE HURT.
INCLUDING THE DRIVERS, WHO WILL
LOSE WORK AS CONSUMERS CHOOSE
OTHER OPTIONS OR SIMPLY FORGO
CERTAIN SERVICES.
IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT THE
SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL HAS RUSHED
TO REGULATIONS ON DELIVERY
DRIVERS WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING
WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS FOR
SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE
DRIVERS THEY CLAIM TO HELP.
WE SURVEYED THEM THIS MONTH.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GORDON
HAGGERTY.
>> GORDON HAGGERTY, PRESS STAR
AND SIX PLEASE.
>> HELLO.
MY NAME IS GORDON.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO TESTIFY TODAY IN OPPOSITION
TO CB 120325.
I HAVE BEEN A HOUSING PROVIDER
IN SEATTLE FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
SOME ON THE COUNCIL DON'T SEEM
TO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME
EXIST.
LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT WE DO.
EVEN THOUGH WE ARE CURRENTLY
AND ENDANGERED MINORITY.
YOU ALREADY KNOW FROM YOUR OWN
DATA THAT SEATTLE'S RENTING
SUPPLY IS GOING IN THE WRONG
DIRECTION.
IT'S DWINDLING INSTEAD OF
GROWING.
AT A GROWING RATE.
INSTEAD OF SPENDING MONEY THAT
YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT
YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW ABOUT
GOING TO COMPANIES LIKE ZILLOW
OR RED FAN AND CONTRACT WITH
THEM TO PROVIDE INFORMATION
THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE ABOUT
LOCAL RENTAL MARKETS FROM DATA
THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE.
I'M SURE YOU WILL GET GOOD DATA
FROM A MUCH LARGER BASE. I
ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY
CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE ARE
IN ENDANGERED SPECIES AND YOU
NEED US.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS A
DUPLICATE.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN BEFORE?
>> YES I HAVE.
I SIGNED UP TWICE.
YOU CAN STRIKE ME OFF.
>> WE APPRECIATE THAT.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DEVIN
GLASER.
>> HELLO.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
THE RENTAL REGISTRY ORDINANCE.
THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS
BILL AND PUSHING IT.
I SPEAK DAILY TO RENTERS FOR
THE RISK OF EVICTION.
OFTEN TIMES THEY ARE ON FIXED
INCOME WITH A DISABILITY,
SOCIAL SECURITY, THE
RETIREMENTS.
OR THEY ARE WORKING BUT HAVE
NOT RECEIVED A PAY RAISE FROM A
GIG COMPANY.
BRENT KEEPS GOING UP AND THEY
HAVE NO RECOURSE.
WE NEED STRONGER RENTAL
PROTECTIONS IN THIS TOWN.
IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO TALK TO
SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED IN A UNIT
FOR FIVE, 10, 15 YEARS, AND
THEY CAN'T AFFORD A RENT
INCREASE.
THEY END UP ON THE STREET.
THESE ARE VERY COMMON SENSE
SMALL STEPS. I THINK WE SHOULD
TAKE THEM.
THE PEOPLE COMPLAINING, SAYING
THEY ARE SMALL LANDLORDS, THEY
CAN AFFORD TO GIVE DATA.
WE NEED THIS AND A LOT MORE.
I CAN'T HANDLE THIS BECAUSE OF
UNREASONABLE RENT INCREASES.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RYAN
GEORGIE.
>> MY NAME IS RYAN AND I'M A
FULL-TIME GIG WORKER FOR DOOR
DASH AND UBER . I AM FIRMLY
OPPOSED TO THIS THING.
I MAKE VERY GOOD MONEY.
I CAN MAKE ANYWHERE FROM $26-
$50 AN HOUR SOMETIMES DOING
THIS GIG WORK.
IF THIS GOES THROUGH I THINK
IT'S GOING TO BE A DISASTER FOR
EVERYONE.
IT'S HYPER INFLATIONARY.
IT WILL HURT RESTAURANTS.
IMAGINE IF YOU ARE A RESTAURANT
AND YOU ARE GETTING CHARGED
FOUR DOLLARS MORE OR FIVE
DOLLARS MORE FOR IN ORDER AND
YOU HAVE TO PASS IT ON TO THE
CUSTOMER.
WHAT WILL THE CUSTOMERS DO?
THEY WILL ORDER FOOD FROM OUT
OF SEATTLE AND THAT WILL HURT
SEATTLE BUSINESSES. IT'S BAD
FOR EVERYONE.
THERE HAS BEEN A RUMOR GOING
AROUND FROM DOOR DASH.
WE ARE MAKING PLENTY OF MONEY.
THEY LOST $161 MILLION LAST
QUARTER.
THEY LOSE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
WHY DO WE WANT TO HURT THEM?
WE WANT TO HELP THEM SUCCEED.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KATE
RUBIN.
>> HELLO.
MY NAME IS KATE RUBIN.
I'M THE ORGANIZING DIRECTOR OF
SEATTLE RENTERS LIVING IN
DISTRICT 2. I'M CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF COUNSEL BILL 120325.
THERE IS ALREADY A MASSIVE
IMBALANCE OF POWER BETWEEN
RENTERS AND LANDLORDS.
I HEARD A LANDLORD REFER TO
HIMSELF AS AN ENDANGERED
MINORITY AND IT IS VERY
DISRESPECTFUL. WE SHOULD KNOW
WHO WE ARE GIVING THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS IN RENT EVERY MONTH.
IF THE DATA IS ACCURATE -- WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT A FEW MINUTES
OUT OF THEIR DAY PER YEAR.
THEY ARE NOT SHARING ANY
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION ABOUT
THEIR TENANTS.
THE LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY THIS
ORDINANCE CREATES IS A SMALL
STEP TOWARD LEVELING THE
PLAYING FIELD AND PREVENTING
DISPLACEMENT.
RENTERS CAN ORGANIZE SO MUCH
EASIER WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND
FOLKS THAT HAVE PROPERTIES
OWNED BY THE SAME LANDLORD WORK
TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY WHETHER OR
NOT THE LANDLORD HAS A HISTORY
OF RENT GOUGING, NOT MAKING
REPAIRS, RETALIATION,
DISCRIMINATION, HARASSMENT, OR
INTIMIDATION.
>> OUR NEXT CALLER IS BJ.
>> HELLO.
I'M A BALLARD RESIDENT.
I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE
PIP PROPOSAL.
IT SHOULD COVER ALL GIG
WORKERS.
ALL OF THEM HAVE A RIGHT TO
MINIMUM WAGE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PEDERSEN,
NELSON, AND LEWIS -- GIG
COMPANIES AND EXCLUDED A BUNCH
OF GIG WORKERS FROM PAYOUT.
-- [ INAUDIBLE ] PAYING WORKERS
IN THE FUTURE.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TIFFANY.
>> HELLO.
I AGREE WITH THE CALLER A
COUPLE AGO THAT WE ARE GOING IN
THE WRONG DIRECTION FOR RENTAL
HOUSING.
FOR A DIFFERENT REASON.
WE HAVE A COMPLETELY
UNREGULATED HOUSING MARKET AND
THE FOLKS THAT ARE SELLING ARE
MAKING A TREMENDOUS PROFIT OFF
OF RENTAL PROPERTIES THAT
USUALLY GO TO TENANTS.
WE NEED TO PASS RENTAL HISTORY,
RENTAL PRICE LEGISLATION. WE
NEED TO NOT BE CARVING OUT ANY
WORKERS.
IT IS YOUR JOB TO MAKE SURE
PEOPLE ARE PAID WHAT THEY
DESERVE.
YOU SHOULD BE MORE WORRIED
ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WORKERS
ARE MAKING A LIVING WAGE THAN
YOU ARE ABOUT -- RISING TOO
MUCH.
LET'S GET IN TOUCH WITH OUR
PRIORITIES AND GET RID OF THE
LOOPHOLES IN PAYOUT.
>> OUR NEXT CALLER IS DOUG.
>> HELLO.
I'M A HOUSING PROVIDER IN
SEATTLE AND I WAS TOUCHED BY
SOME EARLIER PHONE CALLS.
THE CANCER SURVIVOR REMINDS ME
THAT WE ARE IN A STATE OF
EMERGENCY IN THIS CITY.
HOMELESSNESS IS A REALLY TOUGH
ISSUE, AS ARE RISING HOUSING
COSTS.
COUNSEL BILL 120325 WAS BILLED
AS A DISPLACEMENT ORDINANCE TO
GATHER INFORMATION ABOUT
DISPLACEMENT. IT WAS HEARD IN
THE RENTERS RIGHTS COMMITTEE
WHERE IT WAS ASSURED TO GET ONE
VOTE, PERHAPS TWO.
THIS IS SADLY, MY OPINION, I
HAVE READ THE ORDINANCE, IT IS
AN ATTACK ON DENSITY.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE GREEN
LAKE COMMITTEE.
I SUPPORT URBAN VILLAGES.
WE VOTED FOR IT.
THIS IS DECIDED ON, IN MY
OPINION.
I SUPPORT COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN'S AGENDA . UPTOWN,
ADMIRAL, BALLARD, GREEN LAKE,
WE LOVE OUR DENSITY.
THIS IS AN ATTACK ON DENSITY.
WE CANNOT AFFORD IT.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID
HAYNES AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK
TO KATE MARTIN IF SHE IS
AVAILABLE.
DAVID HAYNES?
>> THANK YOU.
DISTRICT 7. SOMETIMES A SMALL
LANDLORDS ARE THE WORST.
THEY THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO
PAD THE COST OF THEIR HOME,
FORCING RENTERS TO WELFARE
SUBSIDIZE THEIR MORTGAGE AND
LIFESTYLE, WHILE NEVER BEING
PROFESSIONAL.
ONE OF MY GIRLFRIENDS WAS
FORCED TO CARRY BUCKETS OF
WATER FROM THE KITCHEN SINK TO
THE BATHTUB AFTER WORKING A
FULL DAY FOR KROGER BECAUSE THE
SHOWER AND BATH PIPES WERE FIT
FILLED WITH BLACK AND BROWN
SLUDGE.
THE LANDLORD SAID HE WOULD GET
AROUND TO IT WHEN HE WOULD GET
AROUND TO IT, LIKE AN ABUSIVE
HUSBAND.
LIKE HE HAS MORE IMPORTANT
THINGS TO DO THAN TAKING CARE
OF REAL RENTERS HE IS RIPPING
OFF.
BEING ABUSIVE AND
UNPROFESSIONAL WHILE SHE IS
FORCED TO BE FRIENDLY BECAUSE
HE LIVES IN A DIFFERENT PART OF
THE HOUSE.
IF THE RENTERS RIGHTS COMMITTEE
DOES NOT PROTECT US FROM
ABUSIVE LANDLORDS THAT
OVERCHARGE FOR RUNDOWN RENTALS,
THE ONLY THING THE COUNCIL IS
ATTEMPTING IS TO MAKE IT SEEM
LIKE SMALLTIME LANDLORDS ARE A
BENEFIT TO COMMUNITY.
QUITE FRANKLY WE COULD DO
WITHOUT THEM.
WE SIMPLY NEED BETTER CHOICES
IN HOMES AND NO SHADY SMALLTIME
LANDLORDS CAN PAY THEIR OWN
MORTGAGE INSTEAD OF RIPPING OFF
RENTERS, BEING TOTALLY
UNPROFESSIONAL AND NOT BEING
HELD HONEST WITH RENTER
PROTECTION.
>> OUR LAST SPEAKER PRESENT IS
KATE MARTIN.
>> THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK TO
ME.
I WANT TO MAKE TWO QUICK
COMMENTS ON TWO DIFFERENT
TOPICS.
AS A SMALL LANDLORD, SMALL
HOUSING PROVIDER, THERE IS 1000
CUTS OF THIS TSUNAMI OF
LEGISLATION AND IT'S TERRIBLE
FOR EVERYBODY.
I DO THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO
RECOGNIZE THAT I'M ABLE TO
PROVIDE AFFORDABLE RENT BECAUSE
I HAVE OWNED MY HOME SINCE
1986.
YOU CAN QUICKLY FIGURE OUT WHEN
PROPERTIES SELL RENT GOES UP.
YOU CAN'T EXPECT TO SEE, WHEN
THE PROPERTIES HAVE GONE UP
22%, YOU WILL SEE RENT GO UP
WHEN THOSE PROPERTIES CHANGE
OWNERS.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT THAT INTO
YOUR DATABANK AND YOU CAN
ACCESS THAT.
AS FAR AS THE GIG WORKERS, A
THIRD OF AMERICANS HAVE TO DO
NO HARM, FOR SMALL.
MANY OF MY RELATIVES WORK FOR
DOOR DASH.
I THINK YOU ARE HURTING
EVERYONE WITH THIS LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
MAKE THESE COMMENTS.
>> THAT IS THE END OF THE
PUBLIC COMMENT LIST OF PRESENT
SPEAKERS.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF OUR
LIST OF CALLERS.
THANK YOU. WE HEARD EACH AND
EVERY ONE OF YOU REGARDING THE
TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION
BEFORE US TODAY.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS
NOW CLOSED.
WITH THAT WE WILL GO DOWN TO
COMMITTEE REPORTS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE AN
ITEM.
OUR FIRST ITEM IS FROM
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT AND
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN FROM
THE SUSTAINABILITY AND RENTERS
RIGHTS COMMITTEE.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE
ITEM INTO THE RECORD.
>> THE SUSTAINABILITY AND
RENTERS RIGHTS COMMITTEE,
COUNSEL BILL 120325, RELATING
TO HOUSING AND DISPLACEMENT
MITIGATION EXPANDING THE
INFORMATION REQUIRED FOR
SUBMISSION UNDER THE RENTAL
REGISTRATION INSPECTION
ORDINANCE FOR RENTAL HOUSING
UNITS. REQUIRING SUBMISSION OF
RENTAL HOUSING RELATED
INFORMATION AND AMENDING
CHAPTER 22.214 OF THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE ON I NEED TO
RECOGNIZE THAT COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS HAS JOINED US.
WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT.
>> THANK YOU , COUNCIL
PRESIDENT JUAREZ.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN IS THE
PRIME SPONSOR OF THIS
LEGISLATION . I WILL TURN THE
FLOOR OVER TO HIM.
I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS BUT I
WILL WAIT UNTIL HE HAS A CHANCE
TO INTRODUCE HIS BILL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, DO YOU
WANT TO SPEAK AFTER
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
OKAY.
GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MAY MOVE THE
BILL?
>> YES.
>> OKAY.
COLLEAGUES I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
PASSAGE OF COUNSEL BILL 120325
ON OUR AGENDA.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT JUAREZ, I
WILL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO IT
NOW.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
JUAREZ AND COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT.
CUNSEL BILL 120325 WILL
EFFECTIVELY FILL A LONG-
STANDING GAP IN DATA COLLECTION
AND ANALYSIS FOR SEATTLE'S
RENTAL HOUSING INVENTORY, WHICH
WILL GENERATE SEVERAL BENEFITS
INCLUDING KEY DATA NEEDED TO
MEASURE AND PREVENT ECONOMIC
DISPLACEMENT OF EXISTING
RESIDENTS FROM OUR DYNAMIC,
GROWING CITY.
SEATTLE'S RENTAL HOUSING
REGISTRATION INSPECTION
ORDINANCE, ADOPTED SEVERAL
YEARS AGO, ALREADY REQUIRES
LANDLORDS TO SUBMIT A LIST OF
THE RENTAL UNITS.
THIS BILL WOULD SIMPLY HAVE
PROPERTY OWNERS INCLUDE THAT
LIST ALONG WITH RENTAL RATES,
OCCUPANCY STATUS, SQUARE
FOOTAGE OF EACH UNIT, TO A
RESEARCH UNIVERSITY TO COMPILE
AND ANALYZE THE IMPORTANT DATA.
NO PERSONAL INFORMATION OF THE
TENANTS WOULD BE PROVIDED.
FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS OUR
CITY GOVERNMENT HAS LACKED THE
LEVEL OF DETAIL NEEDED TO
UNDERSTAND MANY DETAILS ABOUT
SEATTLE'S HOUSING INVENTORY,
INCLUDING THE EXTENT OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS NOT
SUBSIDIZED BUT STILL HAS BELOW-
MARKET RENT.
USUALLY BECAUSE THE HOUSING
STOCK IS OLDER. SOME REFER TO
IT AS NATURALLY OCCURRING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS LEGISLATION ALSO FOLLOWS
THROUGH ON OUR STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT. THE COUNCIL
ADOPTED IT IN NOVEMBER OF 2020.
I UNDERSTAND THAT RENTAL
HOUSING PROVIDERS HAD TO ABSORB
MANY CHANGES AND REQUIREMENTS
OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. FOR US
TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR THE
SIMPLE YET VITAL DATA BEFORE WE
ATTEMPT TO UPDATE THE CITY'S
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WILL
SERVE AS A FOUNDATION FOR
FUTURE HOUSING AND LAND-USE
POLICIES.
THE JULY 2019 REPORT, PREPARED
BY THE CITY OFFICE, BY THE
URBAN DISPLACEMENT PROJECT OF
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA,
TITLED HEIGHTENED DISPLACEMENT
RISK INDICATORS FOR THE CITY OF
SEATTLE.
IT STATES THAT IN MORE GRANULAR
AND LOCALIZED DATA IS NEEDED TO
BEST MEET THE CITY'S RACIAL
EQUITY GOALS.
THE SEATTLE MARKET RATE HOUSING
NEEDS AND SUPPLY ANALYSIS WAS
PREPARED FOR THE CITY IN 2021.
HE STATED THAT DISPLACEMENT CAN
RESULT FROM DEMOLITION OF
RENTAL HOUSING FOR
REDEVELOPMENT.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WE
ADOPTED A STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT IN NOVEMBER
OF 2020 THAT ASKED THE
EXECUTIVE TO COME BACK WITH A
PLAN TO ADDRESS THIS DATA GAP.
UNFORTUNATELY THE PLAN WAS NOT
EFFECTIVE, MERELY SUGGESTING
THAT WE HIRE A DIFFERENT
PRIVATE SURVEY FIRM. ONE WENT
OUT OF BUSINESS IN 2018.
DEMONSTRATED THAT WE PROBABLY
SHOULD NOT BE RELYING ON A
PRIVATE SECTOR FIRM TO COLLECT
DATA FOR A LARGE CITY LIKE
SEATTLE, THAT HAS DYNAMIC
CHANGES GOING ON WITH ITS
POLICIES.
IT'S TIME FOR US TO TAKE
ADDITIONAL STEPS, SUCH AS
REQUIRING THE DATA WE NEED TO
MITIGATE AND PREVENT
DISPLACEMENT.
THE DATABASE ALREADY EXISTS.
ANALYSIS OF THE RENTAL HOUSING
DATA WILL REQUIRE THE
CONTRACTED RESEARCH TO SET UP
SPREADSHEETS OR DATABASE TO
ENTER AND SORT THE RENTAL RATES
AND OTHER INFORMATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS
ABOUT COST.
I CAN TOUCH ON THEM BRIEFLY
HERE.
IBELIEVE THE FIGURES IN THE
FISCAL NOTE ARE VERY HIGH
ESTIMATES AND THEY LACK THE
COST-EFFECTIVE RIGOR AND REALITY
OF THE PROPOSAL PROCESS THAT
WILL OCCUR.
ALSO WE HAVE SEEN THE BUDGETS
INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY FROM
2021 TO 2022.
AS PART OF THE NEW BILL THAT
WAS INTRODUCED A FEW WEEKS AGO
WE DID INSERT A SUNSET CLAUSE.
FOR LANDLORDS CONCERNED ABOUT
THE ONGOING BURDEN OF PROVIDING
A LIST OF INFORMATION THAT THEY
WOULD NORMALLY HAVE THEIR OWN
RECORD-KEEPING AND TRACKING OF
RENTAL REVENUES, THIS BILL
CONTAINS A SUNSET CLAUSE TO END
THIS PROCESS BY DECEMBER OF
2025.
IN OTHER WORDS, FOR THOSE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE BILL, IT
HAS ALREADY BEEN MODIFIED
SUBSTANTIALLY BY LIMITING THE
AMOUNT OF TIME IT IS IN EFFECT.
WHILE THE FIRST ROUNDS OF DATA
MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR THE
EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS TO
COMPLETE THEIR INITIAL DRAFT OF
COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING
MATERIALS THE DATA WILL BE
AVAILABLE FOR US, FOR CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS, BEFORE ANY
FINAL DECISIONS ARE MADE ON THE
PLAN.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR
TURN IT OVER TO OTHERS.
>> BEFORE I TURN OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT DOES
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN BEFORE
WE LET COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT
ADDRESS IT?
THEN WE WILL MOVE TO
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES IN A
MOMENT.
OKAY.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, DO YOU
WANT TO ADDRESS THIS?
AND THAT I BELIEVE
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES HAS A FEW
ITEMS FOR US.
>> THANK YOU.
I SUPPORT THIS BILL AND
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN FOR
BRINGING IT FORWARD . IT WILL
BE GOOD TO HAVE MORE DATA ABOUT
THE RENTAL LANDLORDS CHARGE.
THIS BILL SIMPLY REQUIRES
LANDLORDS TO DISCLOSE THE RENT
THAT THEY CHARGE SO THAT
POLICYMAKERS CAN HAVE ACCURATE,
OBJECTIVE DATA.
IT IS PRETTY IRONIC THAT IN
PUBLIC COMMENT LANDLORDS HAVE
SIMULTANEOUSLY CLAIMED THAT
THEY CHARGE LOW RENT AND ALSO
OBJECTED TO ACTUALLY DISCLOSING
THE RENT THEY CHARGE.
I DON'T BY THE STATED REASONS
FROM THESE LANDLORDS THAT THEY
ARE OPPOSED TO COLLECTING THIS
DATA BECAUSE IT WILL BE SOME
SORT OF BURDEN.
IT'S NOT CLEAR AT ALL WHILE IT
WOULD BE A BURDEN TO REPORT THE
RENT YOU ARE ALREADY CHARGING.
YOU ALREADY HAVE THE PAPERWORK.
IT'S REALLY TELLING THAT THE
LANDLORD LOBBY HAS TURNED OUT
IN OPPOSITION TO THIS VERY
STRAIGHTFORWARD BILL THAT IS
ABOUT DATA COLLECTION.
IT IS NOT A COMMENTARY ON RENT
IN ANY WAY.
THE REASON IS CLEAR.
IT IS MORE ACCURATE AND
COMPLETE DATA THAT CAN HELP
CONFIRM WHAT EVERY RENTER IN
SEATTLE AND EVERY ADVOCATING
HOUSING MEMBER IN SEATTLE
ALREADY KNOWS.
BIG LANDLORDS AND THE PREDATORY
MARKETS ARE GOUGING RENTERS WITH
TOTALLY UNCONSCIONABLE RENT
HIKES.
THE COST OF HOUSING IS BEING
SET BY THE GREED OF SPECULATIVE
BANKS, PRIVATE EQUITY FUNDS,
AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT
CORPORATIONS. RATHER THAN WHAT
IT ACTUALLY COSTS TO HOUSE
PEOPLE.
WHILE SOME MAKE BILLIONS,
WORKING PEOPLE AND THE POOR ARE
INCREASINGLY PRICED OUT JUST TO
HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS
AND THEY ARE GETTING PUSHED
INTO HOMELESSNESS.
WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN ALL OF
THE ASPECTS OF RENTERS RIGHTS.
WE ALSO NEED STRONG CITYWIDE
RENT CONTROL AND A BIG INCREASE
IN TAXES ON THE RICH, LIKE THE
AMAZON TAX, TO INCREASE
EXPANSION OF SOCIAL HOUSING.
THIS BILL STIPULATES THAT
LANDLORDS HAVE TO PROVIDE
INFORMATION TO THE CITY ABOUT
THE RENT THEY ARE CHARGING.
I WILL VOTE YES ON THIS
LEGISLATION AND I HOPE ALL
COUNCILMEMBERS WILL ALSO VOTE
YES.
THANK YOU.
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
OKAY.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COLLEAGUES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST MOVE
AMENDMENT EIGHT TO COUNSEL BILL
120325.
BOTH OF THESE WERE DISTRIBUTED
ON FRIDAY.
>> IS THERE A SECOND?
I WILL GRANT YOU A SECOND,
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS AMENDMENT ADDS A RECITAL
TO STATE THE COUNCIL INTENT IS
THAT THIS INFORMATION WOULD BE
PUBLIC.
ANYTHING WE DO IS PUBLIC. THE
DATA ITSELF, AS MANY HAVE SAID,
IS ALREADY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.
I JUST WANT TO COVER OUR BASES
THAT STATING THAT TO THIS
COALITION OF PUBLICLY AVAILABLE
INFORMATION, AND ITS USE BY THE
CITY, WILL ULTIMATELY BE
PUBLIC.
EITHER THROUGH PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
OR VIA A DATA SOURCE LIKE THE
SEATTLE SERVICES PORTAL.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO
DO WITH THIS.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY COMMENTS FOR COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES REGARDING HER
AMENDMENT?
I'M NOT SEEING ANY.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON AMENDMENT A?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LOUIS?
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALE IS?
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON?
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT JUAREZ?
>> NO.
>> SIX IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED.
>> THAT WAS SIX IN FAVOR, THREE
OPPOSED.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
LET'S MOVE ON.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, I
BELIEVE YOU HAVE ANOTHER
AMENDMENT.
>> YES.
I MOVED TO AMEND COUNSEL BILL
120325 ON AMENDMENT E. WHICH
WAS ALSO DISTRIBUTED ON FRIDAY.
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED.
GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> THIS REFLECTS TECHNICAL
CHANGES THAT WE DID RECEIVE A
REQUEST FOR BISD CI.
IT WOULD DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE FIRST IS THAT IT WOULD SET
THE START DATE FOR THE
LEGISLATION THE CONTRACT
SIGNING SO THAT SDC I WILL HAVE
TIME TO RAMP UP.
IT ALSO PROVIDES LANDLORDS TIME
TO APPLY WITH THE LEGISLATION.
IT ALSO SETS A SUNSET FOR ALL
PARTS OF THIS BILL SO THAT
THERE IS NO AMBIGUITY AROUND
ENFORCEMENT OF CERTAIN
PROVISIONS VERSUS OTHERS.
THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE WITH THIS
AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> THANK YOU , COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
I WANT TO THANK THE
COLLABORATION WITH
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES AND
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
THIS AMENDMENT DOES TWO
DIFFERENT THINGS.
I DEFINITELY SUPPORT REFINING
IT SO THAT THE SUNSET CLAUSE IS
CLEARLY IN ALL OF THE SECTIONS.
IT WILL DEFINITELY MAKE FOR A
CLEANER BILL.
I AM CONCERNED A LITTLE BIT WITH
GIVING THE DEPARTMENT ALL OF
THAT TIME BECAUSE THE FIRST
DATE WHEN THE RENTAL
INFORMATION IS DUE IS OCTOBER.
WE REALLY WANT TO GET THE
INFORMATION AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE.
I STILL SUPPORT THE BILL IF
THIS AMENDMENT PASSES.
I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS
AMENDMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY.
I AM NOT SURE IT IS GOING TO BE
EXPEDITIOUSLY CONTRACTED WITH
THE RESEARCH UNIVERSITY.
THANK YOU.
>> ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE
TO A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT?
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE THAT THIS
AMENDMENT IS BEING BROUGHT
FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN
POTENTIALLY WORK WITH THE
DEPARTMENT ON THE CONCERNS THEY
HAVE.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS
AMENDMENT.
I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ON THE
UNDERLYING BILL.
I WILL MAKE SURE TO CHAT ABOUT
THOSE AFTER THIS VOTE.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS
AMENDMENT TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE?
OKAY.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANKS.
ACCOUNTS MEMBER PEDERSEN
ADDRESSED THIS IN HIS COMMENTS.
I JUST WANT TO UPLIFT A LITTLE
MORE DETAIL.
IN 2015 THIS WAS THE FIRST MAJOR
PLAN THAT INCLUDED WHAT WAS
CALLED A DISPLACEMENT RISK
ANALYSIS.
WE HAVE COME A SINCE THAT TIME,
USED A RISK ANALYSIS FOR MANY
OF OUR LAND-USE DECISIONS.
THE RISK ANALYSIS WAS
INSTRUMENTAL TO THE COUNCIL'S
DELIBERATIONS ON THE MANDATORY
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY RE-ZONES
TO MINIMIZE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT
THOSE RESULTS WOULD ACCELERATE
DISPLACEMENT.
ON APRIL 5th WE RECEIVED A MEMO
FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON
SPECIFIC TOPICS RELATED TO OUR
NEXT MAJOR PLAN UPDATE.
THEY WROTE TO US TO SAY THAT WE
SHOULD MAKE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT
POLICIES A FOCUS OF A
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND WE SHOULD DO SO TO DISRUPT
DECADES OF INEQUITABLE GROWTH
PATTERNS THAT LED TO THE
DISPROPORTIONATE DISPLACEMENT
OF LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES.
THE MAJOR UPDATE TO THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EXPECTED IN
2024 NEEDS TO INCLUDE NOT ONLY
ANTI-DISPLAYS AND POLICIES AS A
CENTRAL FOCUS OF THE PLAN, BUT
WE SHOULD SUPPLEMENT KNOWLEDGE
SHARED BY COMMUNITIES AFFECTED
BY DISPLACEMENT WITH IMPROVED
DATA TRACKING OF HIGH
DISPLACEMENT RISK AREAS AND THE
OUTCOMES OF POLICY ACTIONS.
I JUST LIFTING THAT UP TO SAY,
IF WE ARE MAKING A CHANGE TO
THE DATE WHEN THIS INFORMATION
IS DUE WE MIGHT BE DEPRIVING
OURSELVES OF USEFUL DATA THAT
WILL HELP US TO MAKE DECISIONS
AROUND THE MAJOR UPDATE.
FOR THAT REASON I AM NOT
INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS
AMENDMENT.
>> THE KEY.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I HAVE A
QUESTION.
I WAS LOOKING AT IT.
I'M GOING TO ADDRESS IT TO YOU
BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP THE ANTI-
DISPLACEMENT RISK ANALYSIS.
THAT WAS LIKE THE HEAT MAP THAT
WE GOT.
GREAT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON
THE SAME PAGE.
IT WAS HIGH OPPORTUNITY, LOW
ACCESS.
I'VE GOT IT.
GOOD.
WHEN WE DID THOSE AMENDMENTS I
REMEMBER US HAVING TO USE THOSE
MAPS.
OKAY.
GOOD.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
COMMENT BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE
ON AMENDMENT B?
>> I WANT TO RESPOND.
I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. I
DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS
INTERESTED IN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT
AS MUCH AS I AM, GIVEN THE
DISTRICT I REPRESENT.
I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE
COMMENTS.
THIS IS REALLY ABOUT TRYING TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO DO THE WORK WE ARE
ASKING THEM TO DO.
MANY OF US HERE KNOW HOW
OVERTAXED THEY ARE AND THE
CHALLENGE THE DEPARTMENT HAS
WITH MEETING SOME OF THE THINGS
WE ARE ASKING THEM TO DO.
THIS ISN'T, IN ANY WAY, AND
ATTEMPT TO DELAY US GETTING
ACCESS TO IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
IT'S JUST A CHANCE FOR US TO
MAKE SURE THE DEPARTMENT IS
PREPARED TO DO WHAT WE ARE
ASKING THEM TO DO.
I URGE YOUR SUPPORT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, I DO
NOT THINK THAT COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD WAS SUGGESTING THAT.
BUT JUST MAKING THE POINT.
THANK YOU.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO HERE.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON AMENDMENT B.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALE US?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL NUMBER STRAUSS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT JUAREZ?
>> NO.
>> SIX IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
I THOUGHT IT WAS FIVE AND FOUR.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
IT'S FIVE IN FAVOR, FOUR
OPPOSED.
>> OKAY.
I'M SORRY.
OKAY.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID SIX AND
THREE.
OKAY.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
CORRECT?
>> CORRECT.
>> OKAY.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND
AMENDMENT B IS ADOPTED.
THE AMENDED BILL WILL MOVE
FORWARD.
WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE BILL IN
FRONT OF US.
ACCOUNTS MEMBER PEDERSEN OR
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT, WHICH ARE
DISCUSSING THE CLOSING REMARKS?
AFTER THE VOTE OUR COLLEAGUES
CAN RAISE THEIR HAND IF THEY
WANT TO SPEAK TO IT.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY CLOSING
REMARKS.
>> I DON'T EITHER.
>> OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
LET'S START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER
NELSON AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> I SUPPORT THE STATED POLICY
GOALS OF PRESERVING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND ALSO PRIORITIZING
DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION AS WE
DELIBERATE ON THE PLAN.
I DON'T SUPPORT SINGLING OUT A
GROUP OF BUSINESS OWNERS TO
GENERATE THE DATA THAT WE WILL
BE USING TO MAKE THOSE
DECISIONS.
THAT IS WHAT THIS LEGISLATION
DOES TO HOUSING PROVIDERS.
I WILL BE VOTING NO.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO ASK.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN ON THIS
LEGISLATION FOR SOME TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO BE
ADDED AS A COSPONSOR AND I WANT
TO ENCOURAGE SUPPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE
CONVERSATION ABOUT GETTING
READY FOR THE PLAN.
I THINK THERE IS A SHARED
COMMON GROUND.
THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT
ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS THE HOUSING NEEDS IN
OUR CITY, BOTH TO DEVELOP
AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND
MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT
DISPLACEMENT.
IT HAS BEEN WELL ARTICULATED IN
THIS MEETING AND PREVIOUS
MEETINGS THAT THE PLAN IN FRONT
OF US, BOTH OF THE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT THIS YEAR, THE
POLICY DEVELOPMENT NEXT YEAR,
AND THE DRAFTING OF THE POLICY
IN 2024 IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY
TO ADDRESS THE GROWING NEEDS OF
OUR COMMUNITY AND ALSO MAKE
SURE WE ARE PREVENTING
DISPLACEMENT.
I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
WAYS THAT WE CAN CURRENTLY GET
THE DATA THAT IS BEING SOUGHT.
I HOPE THAT WE CAN TURN TOWARD
SOME OF THE DATA THAT THE
DIRECTOR OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON, CENTER FOR REAL
ESTATE AND RESEARCH, HAS
OFFERED TO US.
THEY OFFERED TO HELP THE
FRAMEWORK AND COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES TO WORK
ON GETTING SOME OF THE
INFORMATION THAT WE MIGHT NEED
ON RENTAL DATA COLLECTION AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO POTENTIALLY
WORKING WITH THEM.
I ALSO THINK THERE IS A HUGE
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DIG INTO
THE DATA THAT IS CURRENTLY
BEING PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND
WORK WITH THESE EXTERNAL
PARTNERS TO REALLY PULL OUT
FROM IT.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MIGHT BE
NEEDED.
MY CONCERN IS THE PRICE TAG
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN, FOR SPEAKING TO THE
POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE
DOWN SOME OF THOSE COSTS.
AND COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
YOU ARE TRYING TO EXTEND OUT TO
THE TIMEFRAME AND I THINK THAT
MAY HELP WITH SOME OF THE COST.
GIVEN THAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE
INDICATED, VIA THE CENTRAL
STAFF MEMO, AND THE COST SYSTEM
IN THE FISCAL NOTE, AN
ESTIMATED RANGE OF $2 MILLION-
$5 MILLION.
WE WILL HAVE COMPETING BUDGET
PRIORITIES AND A BUDGET GAP HIM
AS WE DISCUSSED, THAT WE ARE
LOOKING TO CLOSE.
NOT JUST IN THIS YEAR BUT THE
OUT YEARS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A
PROCESS TO ADDRESS THE
DEPARTMENTS CAPACITY CONCERNS
TO IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM WITH OUR
EXISTING STAFF INCLUDING
STAFFING FOR COMPLIANCE REVIEW
AND ENFORCEMENT, CUSTOMER
SUPPORT, MEDICATIONS, AND I.T.
UPGRADES TO TRACK THE
INFORMATION THAT IS BEING
SUBMITTED.
I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN WORKING
TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO
SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE
THEY HAVE STATED A LARGE AMOUNT
OF UNCERTAINTY FOR THE AMOUNT
OF FUNDING THAT WILL BE NEEDED.
AND A HINDRANCE TO CONTRACT FOR
DATA COLLECTION.
PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD PROVIDE
AND SUGGEST VARIOUS AMENDMENTS
THAT I DON'T SEE IN THE
LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF US.
AGAIN, NOT BEING ON THE
COMMITTEE, I APPRECIATE THE
HARD WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS.
I ESPECIALLY FOCUS ON THE
FISCAL NOTE AND THE OTHER
AVAILABLE DATA AND EXTERNAL
PARTNERS WHO CAN HELP US GET
SOME OF THE DATA THAT THE
LEGISLATIVE INTENT REALLY
SPEAKS TO.
I'M VOTING NO ON THIS TODAY AND
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
FOLKS ON THE COMMON GROUND THAT
I STARTED WITH.
>> THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE?
I'M GOING TO SHARE THAT I'M NOT
SUPPORTING THIS BILL TODAY. I
HAD A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUITY
TO TALK TO COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN ABOUT MY CONCERNS.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP.
WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE ANTI-
DISPLACEMENT AND WHAT TOOLS WE
ARE ALREADY USING.
FOR ME THERE ARE A LOT OF
THINGS.
I SPOKE TO THE STEERING THE
COMMITTEE ON MAY 20th.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DATA.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE THIRD-
PARTY POSSESSION.
I'M CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE NEW
DATA POINTS. I'M CONCERNED WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA BROUGHT
UP , LASTLY HAVING A FIRM
NUMBER OF WHAT THE COST WOULD
BE.
I REALLY AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE
CITY HAVING A BURDENSOME NEW
POSSESSION AND PRODUCTION
RESPONSIBILITY OF ROB RENT DATA
PURSUANT TO THE PUBLIC
DISCLOSURE ACT.
-- FOR MAINTAINING THE DATA,
FOR RELEASING THE DATA.
THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS UNDER
THE PUBLIC DISCLOSURE ACT.
AT THIS JUNCTURE, IN THIS FORM,
I HAVE TO TO UNFORTUNATELY NOT
BE SUPPORTIVE TODAY.
WITH THAT I'M NOT SEEING
ANYMORE.
MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF
THE AMENDED BILL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON?
>> NAY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT JUAREZ?
>> NO.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, FOUR A POST.
>> THE BILL PASSES AS AMENDED
AND THE CHAIR WILL SIGN IT.
WILL THE CLICK PLEASE AFFIX MY
SIGNATURE TO THE AMENDED
LEGISLATION ON MY BEHALF?
ALL RIGHT.
MOVING ON.
WE WILL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC
SAFETY AND HUMAN SERVICES
COMMITTEE.
THE MIGHTY COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ ITEM
NUMBER TWO INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM TWO, COUNCIL BILL
120294.
RELATING TO APPA-BASED WORKER
LABOR STANDARDS ESTABLISHING A
COMPENSATION SCHEME FOR APPA-
BASED WORKERS WITH HIM ON PAY
REQUIREMENTS AND RELATED
STANDARDS FOR TRANSPARENCY AND
FLEXIBILITY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM
CHAIR.
I HAVE SOME INITIAL REMARKS
HERE.
DO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT?
>> WE DO.
>> WITH YOUR PERMISSION I WILL
TAKE THIS OFF.
THANK YOU.
AS WE ALL KNOW WE LIVE IN A
VERY EXPENSIVE CITY AND WE ALSO
KNOW THAT MANY DELIVERY WORKERS
ARE ACCOUNTED FOR.
-- NOT ACCOUNTING FOR EXPENSES.
IT ALSO HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST
NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES ON FOOD
STAMPS IN ALL OF WASHINGTON
STATE AND ONE OF THE HIGHEST
NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES ON
MEDICAID IN ALL OF WASHINGTON
STATE.
WE KNOW THAT APPA-BASED WORK IS
ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING
SECTORS OF OUR ECONOMY WITH
MORE AND MORE WORKERS TURNING
TO THIS TYPE OF WORK AND NOT
RECEIVING LABOR STANDARDS.
THE PASSAGE OF THIS TODAY WOULD
HELP TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
DELIVERY WORKERS TO MAKE ENDS
MEET WHILE MAINTAINING THE
FLEXIBILITY.
WE HELD OUR FIRST STAKEHOLDER
MEETING. SINCE THEN THERE WAS A
TOTAL OF A DOZEN LARGE
STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS FOLLOWED
BY MANY ADDITIONAL ONE-ON-ONE
MEETINGS.
I WANT TO THANK THE MANY
PARTICIPANTS IN THOSE EFFORTS.
THIS INCLUDED DOOR DASH, UBER
EATS, TASK RABBIT, ROVER,
INSTACART, GO PUFF, SEATTLE
RESTAURANTS UNITED, WORKERS AND
WORKER ADVOCACY GROUPS. SUCH AS
DRIVE FORWARD, WORKING
WASHINGTON, AND THE LAW
PROJECT.
LAST WEEK'S COMMITTEE
DISCUSSION CENTRAL STAFF WALKED
US THROUGH 16 SEPARATE
AMENDMENTS.
THE COMMITTEE THEN VOTED. WITH
ONE ABSTENTION AND FOUR VOTES
IN FAVOR TO RECOMMEND THE BILL
TO THE FULL COUNCIL TODAY.
THIS IS A TESTAMENT TO THE HARD
WORK EVERYONE HAS PUT INTO THIS
PROCESS.
WE KNOW THERE ARE STILL
BUSINESSES THAT ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE LEGISLATION.
THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE CITY
TO LIVE AND WORK IN AND PAYING
EMPLOYEES SUB MINIMUM WAGES IS
THE ONLY WAY BUSINESSES CAN
SUSTAIN THEIR MODEL.
THERE SHOULD BE SOME
CONSIDERATION OF WHETHER OR NOT
THAT BUSINESS MODEL REALLY
WORKS.
WE KNOW THAT THESE BUSINESSES
ARE MAKING RECORD REVENUES WITH
DOOR DASH, WHO REPORTED NEARLY
5 BILLION IN REVENUE IN 2021,
UP 69% OVER 2020.
THEY ALSO PAID THEIR CEO OVER
$400 MILLION IN 2020.
UBER REPORTED REVENUE FOR THE
FOURTH QUARTER OF 2021, FEEDING
THEIR OWN ESTIMATES.
INSTACART'S 2021 REVENUE GREW
10%, YEAR-OVER-YEAR, TO $1.65
BILLION.
THE COMPANY'S EVALUATION IS $24
BILLION, UP FROM ALMOST $18
BILLION A FEW MONTHS PRIOR.
GIVEN THIS, HOW IS IT THAT
PAYING WORKERS A MINIMUM WAGE
COULD BE A THREAT TO THEIR
BUSINESS MODEL?
I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED THE
LEGISLATION HAS PASSED OUT OF
THE COMMITTEE PROTECTIONS FOR
MANY WORKERS.
LET'S REMEMBER THAT THE
LEGISLATION THE COUNCIL PASSED
LAST JUNE, THE INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS DETECTION ORDINANCE
, MEANS THAT INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS THAT ARE NOT
COVERED BY TODAY'S BILL WILL
HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION SO
THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE
PRECONTRACT DISCLOSURES, TIMELY
PAYMENT, AND PAYMENT
DISCLOSURES FOR SERVICES VALUED
AT $600 OR MORE.
THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS
HAS BEEN CONDUCTING.
THEY WILL PROCESS IT THIS YEAR
FOR THIS BILL AND ALL OF THESE
PROTECTIONS WILL GO INTO EFFECT
BEGINNING IN SEPTEMBER THIS
YEAR.
TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES
CONCERNED ABOUT PRICE INCREASES
. WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF SMALL
BUSINESSES ARE STRONGLY IN
FAVOR OF THIS LEGISLATION, LIKE
SEATTLE RESTAURANTS UNITED.
FOR THOSE THAT STILL HAVE
CONCERNS KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU
ARE CURRENTLY PROTECTED FROM
PRICE INCREASES. IN APRIL OF
2020 THE FORMER MAYOR SIGNED AN
EMERGENCY ORDER THAT PREVENTS
AT-BASED DELIVERY COMPANIES
FROM PURGING MORE THAN 50% OF
THE PURCHASE PRICE OF AN ORDER.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNCIL
IS WORKING ON DRAFTING THIS
POLICY AS A COUNCIL BILL TO
EXTEND THAT PROTECTION AND
REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO
SUPPORTING THAT INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT LEGISLATION.
REMEMBER, EVERY DOLLAR IN A LOW
WAGE WORKERS POCKET ADS $1.21
TO THE ECONOMY AND INVESTMENT
IN OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
IT LEADS TO JOB CREATION TOO.
I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE
OTHER ALTERATIONS MADE TO THE
BILL ON THEIR REQUEST THAT I
DID SUPPORT.
WE REDUCED EACH OF THE
ASSOCIATED COST FACTORS, THE
ASSOCIATED TIME FACTOR, AND THE
ASSOCIATED MILEAGE FACTOR.
THESE ARE ALL INPUTS THAT
RESULTED IN REDUCING THE
MINIMUM PAYMENT CALCULATION AS
ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
WE INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT THAT
THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS
PRODUCED THE NOTICES OF RIGHTS
IN TRANSLATIONS, REMOVING THAT
BURDEN FROM THE COMPANY.
WE INCLUDED A REQUIREMENT THAT
ALLOWS NETWORK COMPANIES TO
TAKE ADVERSE ACTION AGAINST A
WORKER FOR FRAUD IF THAT
COMPANY HAS A FRAUD POLICY.
THEY CHANGE THE EFFECTIVE DATE
OF THE ORDINANCE FROM 12 MONTHS
TO 18 MONTHS.
REMEMBER THAT THE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY
LEGISLATION, THE FAIR SHARE,
WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BACK IN
NOVEMBER, 2019.
THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THAT
LEGISLATION WAS JANUARY 1st,
2021.
THAT GAVE THEM 13 MONTHS FOR
COMPANIES TO ADJUST.
WE NOW HAVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE
UNDER PASSAGE THAT IS FIVE
MONTHS LONGER THAN FAIR SHARE.
THIS GIVES THE PLATFORMS MORE
TIME TO ADJUST BUT IT ALSO
MEANS THE WORKERS WE HAVE BEEN
HEARING FROM TODAY WILL BE
WAITING TWO YEARS LONGER FOR
THE SAME KIND OF GUARANTEES
THAT DRIVERS ARE ALREADY
RECEIVING THINGS TO OUR
LEGISLATION.
I HAVE SOME CLOSING REMARKS
AFTER HEARING AND WILL GIVE
THANKS AFTER HEARING THE
AMENDMENT.
THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY
FOR MY OPENING REMARKS.
>> GREAT.
REMIND ME TO COME BACK TO YOU
BECAUSE I WILL FORGET TO DO
CLOSING REMARKS.
--
>> I MET ON THAT COMMITTEE.
YES.
THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO AMEND
COUNCIL BILL 120294, AS
PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT 17,
WHICH WE DISTRIBUTED BEFORE
NOON TODAY.
>> SECOND.
YOU MOVED IT, I SECONDED.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> THANK YOU.
I DID WATCH THE COMMITTEE OVER
THE WEEKEND AND IT WAS
DISAPPOINTING TO SEE WORKERS
GET EXCLUDED FROM THE POLICY AT
THE LAST MINUTE.
I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE TO MAKE
SURE THESE WORKERS ARE
PROTECTED AS WELL.
THIS AMENDMENT REALLY EXPRESSES
THE COUNSEL INTENT TO CONSIDER
REGULATING MARKETPLACE COMPANIES
REGARDING MINIMUM PAYMENT,
FLEXIBILITY, AND TRANSPARENCY
FOR SEPARATE LEGISLATION NO
LATER THAN NEXT SUMMER, AUGUST
1st, 2023.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE PASS
THE PAY UP LEGISLATION TODAY
AND CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD ON
ADDITIONAL POLICIES FOR WORKERS
IN OUR CITY.
WHETHER YOU GET A JOB FROM AN
APPLE OR AN AD, WORK IS WORK
AND EVERY WORKER DESERVES BASIC
RIGHTS LIKE MINIMUM WAGE.
I AM OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT
TODAY IN HOPES THAT MY
COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT IT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
ANY COMMENTS FOR COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES BEFORE WE MOVE TO A
VOTE ON AMENDMENT 17?
ALL RIGHT.
NOT SEEING ANY.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT 17?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON?
>> NAY.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT JUAREZ?
>> YES.
>> SEVEN IN FAVOR, TWO A POST.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THAT MEANS THAT THE MOTION
CARRIES AND AMENDMENT 17 IS
ADOPTED.
NOW THE AMENDED BILL IS BEFORE
THE COUNCIL.
WITH THAT I WILL HAND IT BACK
OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> I WAS HOPING TO HAVE CLOSING
REMARKS.
MY COSPONSOR, COUNCIL MEMBER
LEWIS, MIGHT HAVE SOME REMARKS
AS WELL.
>> I'M SORRY.
I APOLOGIZE.
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS HAS HIS
HAND UP TOO.
I CAN'T SEE.
IS IT JUST COUNCIL MEMBER
LEWIS?
OKAY.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS?
AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
JUAREZ.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK THIS IS LEGISLATION AND I
APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP OF
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD IN MOVING
THIS FORWARD.
THIS IS THE FIRST IN A SERIES
OF MEASURES FOR LONG-STANDING
INEQUITIES IN OUR LOCAL ECONOMY
AND OUR GIG WORK AND AT-BASED
WORK HAS DRIVEN TECHNOLOGICAL
CHANGES AND SHIFTS IN OUR
ECONOMY.
THIS LEGISLATION, BY NO MEANS,
IS GOING TO BE THE FINAL WORD
ON THIS.
I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT
BROUGHT UP BY COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, PUTTING A TIMELINE
FOR FUTURE LEGISLATION, WHICH
WILL BE LOOKING AT WAYS TO
CREATE SOME LEVEL OF CERTAINTY
AND REGULATION INTO HOW THE
MARKETPLACE HAS CONDUCTED THEIR
WORK.
ALSO SEVERAL OTHER PIECES OF
LEGISLATION, INCLUDING HOW
DEACTIVATION'S WORK AND
TRANSPARENCY.
AND A NOTICE OF HOW THESE PAY
STANDARDS IMPACT FOLKS WHO ARE
IN THIS GIG ECONOMY.
AS COUNCILMEMBER MORALES JUST
NOTED A LOT OF THIS WORK,
INCREASINGLY, HAS BEEN DRIVEN.
NOT BECAUSE IT'S NEW WORK OR
NEW TYPES OF JOBS THAT PEOPLE
DO BUT BECAUSE THERE ARE NEW
WAYS TO DELIVER THEM ACROSS THE
VARYING BUSINESS MODELS.
THIS COUNSEL PREVIOUSLY MOVED
TO REGULATE THE TRANSPORTATION
NETWORK COMPANIES, UBER , IN
THAT SAME VEIN.
SOON WE WILL BE CONSIDERING
OTHER ASPECTS IN THIS ECONOMY
AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD IN
BRINGING THIS TOGETHER.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE WORK
OF CAMILLA BROWN, ON MY STAFF,
WHO HAS WORKED HAND IN HAND
WITH THE OFFICE AND THE
STAKEHOLDERS AND BRINGING
TOGETHER FOLKS.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND
STEWARDSHIP OF THIS AREA AS
WELL AS ALL OF THE OTHER
PARTNERS FROM OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE PROVIDED
INPUT, INCLUDING
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE
PLATFORMS AND REPRESENTATIVES
FROM DRIVE FORWARD.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN
CONTINUING THE MISSION TO EXPAND
WHAT THE ROLL AND FUTURE OF
WORK WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE CITY
OF SEATTLE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING
THIS WORK THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR
AND INTO NEXT YEAR AND TO
CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS
LEGISLATION AS IT GOES INTO
RULEMAKING.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TO THIS AND LOOK FORWARD
TO VOTING.
>> THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT
IT CORRECT.
I THINK COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT
WAS NEXT AND THEN
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA AND THEN
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES AND THEN
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
I HAVE TO WRITE THIS DOWN.
I APOLOGIZE.
I GOT IT MIXED UP.
COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> THANK YOU.
I VOTED YES ON THE AMENDMENT
AND OF COURSE I SUPPORT THE
LEGISLATION AS A WHOLE.
I THINK ALL THE WORKERS WHO
SPOKE TODAY AND PREVIOUSLY IN
PUBLIC COMMENT IN SUPPORT OF
LEGISLATION.
AS A SOCIALIST I HAVE
REPEATEDLY EXPLAINED IN THE
PAST THAT BIG BUSINESS, UNDER
CAPITALISM, HAS ENORMOUS POWER.
AND EVERY VICTORY OF THE
WORKERS MOVEMENT HAS COME UNDER
ATTACK AND HAS GRADUALLY
CHIPPED AWAY. THE ALTERNATIVE
IS TO FUNDAMENTALLY AND THE
POWER THAT BIG BUSINESS HAS TO
CLAW BACK EVERY PENNY THAT
WORKERS HAVE WON AND FIGHT FOR
GLOBAL SOCIALISM.
BIG BUSINESS DOES NOT WANT TO
PAY MINIMUM WAGE, DOES NOT WANT
TO RESPECT OTHER WORKER RIGHTS.
WHEN WE SAY BIG BUSINESS IT IS
NOT AN INANIMATE OBJECT.
IT IS THE BILLIONAIRES, THE
MULTIMILLIONAIRES, THE VERY
WEALTHY ELITE.
THEY AMEND THE NOTION OF GIG
WORKERS, INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS
, AND SUDDENLY YOU HAVE A WHOLE
SECTION OF THE WORKFORCE WHERE
WORKERS RIGHTS AND REGULATIONS
APPARENTLY DO NOT APPLY.
THE GIG INDUSTRIES ARE ALSO
LINKED IN OTHER WAYS TO THE
FUNDAMENTAL NATURE OF
CAPITALISM.
IT IS NOT -- CONSTANTLY UNDER
ATTACK.
BUT THE INDUSTRY ALSO
ILLUSTRATES HOW, AS THE GLOBAL
CAPITALIST SYSTEM HAS GONE
DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO A LONG-
TERM CRISIS OVER THE LAST
DECADE, THE BILLIONAIRES AND
MULTIMILLIONAIRES HAVE
INCREASINGLY CREATED MORE AND
MORE AVENUES TO SQUEEZE EVERY
LAST DROP OF BLOOD FROM THE
GLOBAL WORKING-CLASS.
THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THE
EVOLUTION OF SUCH INDUSTRIES.
NOW THAT THE PAY UP LEGISLATION
WOULD EXTEND MINIMUM WAGE
PROTECTIONS TO GIG WORKERS --
PASSED AN AMENDMENT TO CREATE A
NEW LEGAL FICTION FOR THE
MARKETPLACE NET WORTH. WORKERS
AND BIG BUSINESS WILL REDEFINE
-- BIG BUSINESSES WILL REDEFINE
THEMSELVES INTO THAT LOOPHOLE.
TE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE
REVERSING THAT LOOPHOLE, BUT
THAT WAS NOT THE AMENDMENT
BEFORE US IN THE LAST VOTE.
I SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION TO
CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE FOR MINIMUM
WAGE PROTECTIONS CREATED BY THE
CONTRACTOR'S LEGAL NOTION.
I SUPPORT CLOSING THE
MARKETPLACE TOO IF THE COUNCIL
NUMBERS WANT TO DO THAT.
THE WORKERS MOVEMENT FIGHTS FOR
BETTER WAGES AND THAT IS
ESSENTIAL.
WE ALSO NEED TO FIGHT FOR
SOCIALISM SO WE ARE NOT
CONTINUALLY FORCED TO FIGHT FOR
THE RIGHT TO SURVIVE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
AND THANKS AGAIN TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
THE OTHER COSPONSORS OF THIS
LEGISLATION.
IT IS MY GREAT PRIVILEGE AND
PRIDE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOU
IN THIS LEGISLATION TODAY.
AND TO CONTINUE TO UNDERSCORE
FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HOW
LONG THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN
UNDERWAY.
TO SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN COMING
FOR A LONG TIME IS AN
UNDERSTATEMENT.
WE KNEW THAT THIS TYPE OF
LEGISLATION WAS NEEDED FOR
BASIC STANDARDS TO PROTECT GIG
WORKERS. THE CONCEPT OF THE PAP
LEGISLATION AND THE CAMPAIGN
FROM THE COMMUNITY REALLY GOT A
LOT OF ATTENTION IN 2019.
SINCE THEN GIG WORKERS, FRONT-
LINE WORKERS, ESSENTIAL
WORKERS, WORKERS THAT WE DEEM
TO BE HEROES HAVE ONLY, SINCE
THEN, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC,
BEEN PUT MORE IN THE SPOTLIGHT
BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF WORK
THEY HAVE DONE AND MORE AT RISK
TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY DO
DURING THIS PANDEMIC.
I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS
LEGISLATION TODAY AND TO
RECOGNIZE THE MANY MONTHS,
YEARS OF HARD WORK THAT WENT
INTO THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
AND TO REALLY, AS WELL, THANK
THE STAFF FROM THE COSPONSORS.
ALICE, CAMILO, I WANT TO THANK
THE CENTRAL STAFF AND NAME THEM
BY NAME.
AMY, JASMINE, THEY HAVE A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK WITH
THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS
AND MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS
WELL TO CRAFT THIS LEGISLATION.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, YOU ARE
SAVING YOUR THANK YOU.
I HOPE I'M NOT STEPPING ON
TOES.
THEY PROBABLY DO NOT HEAR IT
ENOUGH.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK MY CHIEF
OF STAFF WHO HAS WORKED WITH
THE PIECES OF LEGISLATION IN
FRONT OF US THROUGH THE VARIOUS
ITERATIONS AND IN CLOSE
COORDINATION WITH MEMBERS OF
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND OFFICE
OF LABOR STANDARDS AND THE
BROAD COMMUNITY OF WORKER
REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL AS
INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES TO
FURTHER UNDERSTAND THE
IMPLICATIONS OF THE BILL IN
FRONT OF US.
THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK.
I WILL BE VOTING YES.
I DO WANT TO UNDERSCORE THE
SIGNIFICANT RESERVATIONS DUE TO
THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE
IN THE COMMITTEE LAST WEEK.
THIS LEGISLATION WILL STILL
BENEFIT THOUSANDS OF WORKERS.
THAT SHOULD BE A MOMENT WHERE
WE ALL CELEBRATE TODAY.
BUT TO BE HONEST WE ALSO NEED
TO, AT THE SAME TIME, RECOGNIZE
THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PASSED
IN COMMITTEE LAST WEEK CUTS OUT
BASIC PROTECTIONS FOR THOUSANDS
OF OTHER WORKERS AND SETS A
PRECEDENT THAT I HOPE WILL NOT
REPLICATE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY
AND THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS
BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY SO THAT
WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS
POLICY AREA.
NO POLICY IS PERFECT.
WHEN FACED WITH THE DECISIONS I
THINK IT IS OUR BELIEF IN MY
OFFICE THAT WE ERR ON THE SIDE
OF LISTENING TO THOSE THAT ARE
ON THE FRONT LINE, LISTENING TO
THOSE THAT HAVE LESS POWER,
LISTENING TO THOSE WHO ARE IN A
MORE VULNERABLE SITUATION.
AND WITH THE LIVED EXPERIENCE
OF BEING PRIORITIZED.
WHETHER IT'S ON PLATFORMS OR
FUNDING AND PROTECTIONS OR
STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.
WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LISTEN
TO THOSE VOICES THAT HAVE BEEN
ON THE FRONTLINE AND NOT
RELINQUISHING OUR EFFORTS TO
MAKE SURE THAT MORE WORKERS ARE
FOLDED INTO THESE PROTECTIONS
TODAY.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO HAS
CALLED IN AND OFFERED ROBUST
TESTIMONY AND TO EXPLAIN HOW
SEPARATE POLICY FOR MARKET
PLACE WORKERS WILL IMPACT THEM.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION
THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR, AS I KNOW
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD HAS OTHER
PIECES OF LEGISLATION IN THE
HOPPER.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE FOLLOWING
CONVERSATIONS IN 2023 AS WELL.
THANKS, AS WELL, FOR YOUR
SUPPORT FOR THE AMENDMENT THAT
WE PUT FORWARD.
TRANS TWO AND I HAVE PUT FORWARD
AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE WE
ARE LOOKING AT THE INFLAMMATION
FOR THE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND WE
BEGAN A PROCESS OF ENSURING
THAT THERE WAS A ADDITIONAL
CONVERSATION AROUND REVENUE,
ESPECIALLY FOR REVENUE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING ON
THIS LEGISLATION AND TO
CELEBRATING ALL THAT WORKERS
ACCOMPLISHED TODAY WITH OUT
LETTING THE END GOAL OF GETTING
WORKERS INCLUDED AS WELL.
CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE HAVE INCORPORATED SO MANY
DIFFERENT VOICES.
CONGRATULATIONS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> THANK YOU.
I AM ALSO EXCITED FOR THIS
LEGISLATION AND THE PIECES
THAT I KNOW WILL BE COMING IN
SUBSEQUENT WEEKS AND MONTHS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS OVER
40,000 WORKERS IN SEATTLE WHO
DEPEND ON THIS WORK,
PARTICULARLY PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES, PEOPLE OF COLOR,
IMMIGRANTS, SINGLE PARENTS,
LGBTQ WORKERS. THESE APPS,
WHILE THEY DO PROVIDE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO FIND
AND FLOAT -- THEY SHIPPED ALL
OF THE COSTS AND ALL OF THE
RISK TO WORKERS. AND IT REALLY
LEAVES THE EARNING WELL BELOW
MINIMUM WAGE AFTER EXPENSES.
WE KNOW THAT A RECENT REPORT
FOUND SEATTLE GIG WORKERS ARE
GETTING PAID JUST $9.58 AN HOUR
AND JOBS PAY LESS THAN MINIMUM
WAGE.
THERE HAS BEEN AN EXPLOITATION
OF A GLARING LOOPHOLE IN OUR
LABOR STANDARDS.
SIMPLY CALLING WORKERS,
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS, THESE
MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR APPS HAVE
AVOIDED BASIC WORKER
PROTECTIONS AND THAT IS THE
PROBLEM WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE
HERE.
THE PAYABLE POLICY THAT IS UP
FOR VOTE TODAY WILL CLOSE THAT
LOOPHOLE.
IT WILL ENSURE BASIC PROTECTION
FOR THOUSANDS OF WORKERS BY
ENSURING THAT THEY ARE PAID AT
LEAST MINIMUM WAGE WITH OTHER
BASIC PROTECTIONS.
REGARDLES OF WHETHER SOMEBODY
IS CLEANING IN-HOUSE OR
DELIVERING FOOD. THAT IS THE
GOAL.
TO MAKE SURE THAT REGARDLESS OF
THE KIND OF APP THEY ARE ON
THEY ARE BEING PROTECTED.
AND THOSE WHO COMPANIES CHOOSE
TO CALL CONTRACT WORKERS.
IT IS AN EXCITING DAY.
SEATTLE IS LEADING THE WAY BY
LISTENING TO GIG WORKERS,
PROVIDING THEM WITH WHAT THEY
NEED.
THESE JOBS, AS I SAID, HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO BE GOOD PAYING
JOBS.
THEY ARE IMPORTANT OPTIONS FOR
PEOPLE WHO NEED FLEXIBILITY AND
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
RATHER THAN PASSIVE FAIR PAY
COSTS ONTO CONSUMERS, THE
COMPANIES, SOME OF WHICH SAW
THE REVENUES SOAR BY 70%, AS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD SAID,
SHOULD THEMSELVES PAY THE TRUE
COST OF LABOR OUT OF THEIR OWN
POCKETS AND STOP THE EXPLOITIVE
MODEL FROM BECOMING THE NEW
NORMAL.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
SUPPORTING THIS, TO SUPPORTING
FUTURE LEGISLATION, AND TO
CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION OVER
THE NEXT YEAR.
I DO WANT TO THANK MY STAFF AS
WELL.
ALEXIS OLIVER.
THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS
WITH OUR COLLEAGUES.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING
IT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I SUPPORT A MINIMUM PAY STANDARD
FOR DELIVERY DRIVERS BUT I'VE
ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED THAT
SETTING THE DELIVERY FEE TOO
HIGH WILL LOWER DEMAND, WHICH
COULD RESULT IN THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES OF REDUCING DRIVERS
AND THE REVENUE OF SMALL
BUSINESSES, LIKE RESTAURANTS.
IT CAN ALSO DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACT THE MOST VULNERABLE
CUSTOMERS WHO ALSO TEND TO BE
LOW INCOME AND MIGHT NOT BE
ABLE TO AFFORD THE FEE.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS
LEGISLATION TODAY BECAUSE IT
HAS VASTLY IMPROVED FROM THE
BILL THAT WAS INTRODUCED MOST
SIGNIFICANTLY BY COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN'S AMENDMENT, WHICH I
SUPPORTED, TO REMOVE
MARKETPLACE COMPANIES FROM
BEING COVERED BY WORKING
WASHINGTON'S PROPOSAL.
I BELIEVE THEIR INCLUSION WAS
AN OVERREACH.
IT MADE NO SENSE TO ME TO
REGULATE BY SERVICE PROVIDERS
WHO SET THEIR OWN RATES AND
NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH THE
CUSTOMERS.
THEY PROVIDE THINGS LIKE HOME
HEALTHCARE, CHILDCARE, PET
CARE, AND HELP WITH HOUSEHOLD
TASKS.
JUST BECAUSE THOSE
PROFESSIONALS USE AN APP TO
REACH SOME OF THEIR CUSTOMERS.
I REALLY HADN'T SEEN CONVINCING
EVIDENCE THAT THE MAJORITY OF
THEM MAKE UNDER THE MINIMUM
WAGE.
QUITE FRANKLY THIS PROPOSAL HAS
A LONG HISTORY AND I BELIEVE IT
WILL PASS.
I SUBMITTED VOTING NO WOULD
DIMINISH THEIR CONFIDENCE THAT
I CAN NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH
TO IMPROVE FUTURE LEGISLATION,
WHATEVER IT IS.
THAT IS WHAT PRAGMATISM IS AND
I WILL BE VOTING YESTERDAY.
>> GREAT.
I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS.
I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
I SHOULD TELL EVERYONE THAT I
LIKE WHAT THEY SAID.
I WILL SHARE WITH YOU I AM
VOTING YES.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES AND
COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON HIT THE
NAIL ON THE HEAD FOR ME.
WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THE
GIG ECONOMY.
I LIKE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES SAID.
I ALWAYS FELT THIS WAY.
TO SOME DEGREE IT IS AN
EXPLOITIVE MODEL.
UNTIL WE ANSWER THE QUESTION
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A GIG
WORKER IS AN EMPLOYEE OR INDEED
A CONTRACT WORKER, AND WE HAVE
NOT ADDRESSED THAT STRAIGHT ON
FOR THE LABOR AND THIS ECONOMY
AND THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY
TAKE ON THESE JOBS, WE ARE
GOING TO CONTINUALLY DECIDE HOW
THIS WORKS WHEN WE HAVE A GIG
ECONOMY.
I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION.
THIS IS THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO
COME BECAUSE IT IS A LABOR
ISSUE AND THERE IS A SURGE FOR
PEOPLE WHO USE THIS AS THEIR
JOB.
THE BIGGER BUSINESS COMPANIES
HAVE MADE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
DURING OUR PANDEMIC.
IF THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK HIM AS
YOU KNOW THE PANDEMIC HAS
TAUGHT US MANY LESSONS.
IF THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK FOR US
TO GET HERE AND PEOPLE TO
RECOGNIZE HOW MUCH MONEY IS
COMPANIES ARE MAKING ON PEOPLE
WHO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO CALL
EMPLOYEES.
WHT WE HAVE DONE IS TAKEN UPON
OURSELVES, AS WE SHOULD DO AS
ELECTED OFFICIALS, TO START
DECONSTRUCTING THIS ECONOMY AND
MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE ON THE FRONT LINES, WHO ARE
DELIVERING FOOD AND DOING ALL
OF THOSE THINGS ARE COMPENSATED.
THEY ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
THAT IS OUR JOB AT THE END OF
THE DAY AS GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS, TO MAKE PEOPLE'S
LIVES HOPEFULLY BETTER.
WITH THAT I WILL HEAD OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD FOR
CLOSING REMARKS AND WE WILL
CALL ON THE CLERK TO CALL THE
ROLL.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
EXCITEMENT OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR
THE VOTE THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO
TAKE.
IN CLOSING I JUST WANT TO READ
A COUPLE SENTENCES FROM THE MAY
10th LETTER TO THE COUNCIL FROM
THE NATIONAL EMPLOYMENT LAW
PROJECT.
THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE
HISTORY OF THE MINIMUM WAGE.
THE NEW DEAL LEGISLATION
EXCLUDED DOMESTIC,
AGRICULTURAL, AND TIP WORKERS
FROM WAGE PROTECTIONS OF THE
FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT.
IT SYSTEMICALLY DENIED BLACK
PEOPLE AND WORKERS OF COLOR THE
ABILITY TO EARN THE WAGES
GUARANTEED TO WORKERS IN
INDUSTRIES DOMINATED BY WHITE
WORKERS.
AND THE LEGACY OF THIS
INJUSTICE CONTINUES TODAY.
MORE RECENTLY VENTURE
CAPITALISTS ARE RUNNING AT BASE
BUSINESSES AND DENY WORKERS
MINIMUM PAY AND BENEFITS THAT
SHOULD BE UNIVERSAL.
AS A CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZED,
BLACK AND LATIN WORKERS
COMPRISE A DISPROPORTIONATE
SHARE OF THE 40,000 INDIVIDUALS
PERFORMING AT BASE WORK IN
SEATTLE.
THE FACT THAT APPA-BASED
WORKERS ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR
REFLECTS ON THE RACIALIZED
EXPLOITATION WITHIN THE APP-
BASED DELIVERY AND MARKETPLACE
INDUSTRY.
INDEED THE APPA-BASED GIG
ECONOMY FUNCTIONS ON
OCCUPATIONAL SEGREGATION.
COMPANIES CAN GET AWAY WITH
OFFERING POOR QUALITY, UNSAFE
JOBS, WHERE WORKERS HAVE
VIRTUALLY ZERO LEGAL PROTECTION
ON THE JOB BECAUSE FOR SO MANY
WORKERS THERE IS SIMPLY NO
ALTERNATIVE.
FAR FROM OFFERING ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY, THIS BUSINESS MODEL
DEEPENS THE DESPERATION OF
UNDERPAID BLACK, LATIN, AND
OTHER WORKERS OF COLOR, WHO
HAVE BEEN SHUNTED TO THE BOTTOM
OF THE ECONOMY.
IN CLOSING, IN ADDITION TO THE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS THAT I
TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE PAP
POLICY PACKAGE HAS BEEN
DISCUSSED SIX TIMES IN A
COUNCIL COMMITTEE, MY COUNSEL
COMMITTEE, SINCE JULY OF 2021.
I AM SO HONORED TO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THIS
GROWING WORKERS MOVEMENT, WHO
ARE DETERMINED TO NOT BE LEFT
BEHIND.
THERE IS SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT
FOR THIS LEGISLATION, INCLUDING
FROM THE SEATTLE RESTAURANTS, A
COALITION OF MORE THAN 240
SMALL RESTAURANT OWNERS AND
OPERATORS.
THE WASHINGTON INCOME HOUSING
ALLIANCE, ONE AMERICA, THE
SOMALI COMMUNITY SERVICES,
ISLAMIC COMMUNITY CENTER,
CASTLE LaTINA, ASIAN COUNSELING
AND REFERRAL SERVICE, THE
NATIONAL DOMESTIC WORKERS
ALLIANCE, THE NATIONAL
EMPLOYMENT LAW PROJECT, --
UNION AND LABOR STANDARDS
ADVISORY COMMISSION.
WE WILL CONTINUE OUR WORK TO
COVER ISSUES SUCH AS RESTAURANT
ACCESS, ANTIDISCRIMINATION,
BACKGROUND CHECKS,
DEACTIVATION, AND THE CREATION
OF AN ADVISORY BOARD I WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL
STAKEHOLDERS ON THE DEVELOPMENT
OF THESE POLICIES.
I WANT TO THANK THE
COUNCILMEMBERS AND THEIR STAFF,
SPECIFICALLY MY COSPONSOR,
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS . I ALSO
WANT TO THANK THE OFFICE OF
LABOR STANDARDS, SPECIFICALLY --
AND I RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK
OF COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF.
FINALLY, I WANT TO THANK THE
CLERK IN MY OFFICE.
HE HAS BEEN THE DRIVING FORCE
OF THIS LEGISLATION AND I WANT
TO THANK HIM FROM THE BOTTOM OF
MY HEART FOR HIS TIME AND
DILIGENCE AND ATTENTION TO
DETAIL.
I HOPE WE CAN VOTE YES ON THIS
REALLY IMPORTANT LEGISLATION
TODAY.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, THANK
YOU.
I NORMALLY DON'T DO A BUNCH OF
THINGS BUT I REALLY WANT TO
THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND
CENTRAL STAFF.
I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GET 16
AMENDMENTS THAT TRY TO
ACCOMMODATE AND KEEP EVERYTHING
MOVING.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR
STAFF.
CENTRAL STAFF AND ALL THE FOLKS.
WE HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF WHAT
THE AMENDMENTS WERE, WHICH ONCE
WERE PAST AND WHICH WERE
ABSTAINED AND HOW PEOPLE
VOTING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS
HARD WORK.
OKAY.
WITH THAT, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON THE PASSAGE
OF THE AMENDED BILL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAWANT?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT JUAREZ?
>> YES.
>> NINE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE BILL PASSES AS AMENDED AND
THE CHAIR WILL SIGN IT.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY
SIGNATURE THE AMENDED
LEGISLATION?
THANK YOU.
MOVING ON IN OUR AGENDA TO THE
ADOPTION OF OTHER RESOLUTIONS.
THERE ARE NO OTHER RESOLUTIONS
FOR INTRODUCTION AND ADOPTION
TODAY.
WE WILL GO TO, LET'S SEE, OTHER
BUSINESS.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I
UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A
PRESENTATION FOR US TODAY.
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE FLOOR?
>> NOT A PRESENTATION, JUST
GATHERING SIGNATURES.
>> NOT A PRESENTATION.
THE PROCLAMATION FOR
SIGNATURES.
CORRECT?
PERFECT.
GO AHEAD.
>> MY OFFICE CIRCULATED THE
PROCLAMATION LAST WEDNESDAY.
THIS IS AT THE REQUEST OF THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND
THE MAYOR IS CONCURRING THE
PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZES
SEATTLE'S PARTICIPATION IN THE
KING COUNTY MULTIDISCIPLINARY
TEAM TO ADDRESS CASES INVOLVING
OLDER ABUSED OR NEGLECTED.
IT CALLS UPON THE PEOPLE OF
SEATTLE TO INCREASE AWARENESS
OF ELDER ABUSE ISSUES, SUPPORT
COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS FOR OLDER
PEOPLE THAT REDUCE THE
LIKELIHOOD OF ABUSE, AND LEARN
THE SIGNS THAT ABUSE MAY BE
OCCURRING.
IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT AN
ELDER YOU BELIEVE IS BEING
ABUSED YOU CAN CALL 1-866, AND
HARM.
ELDER ABUSE AWARENESS DAY IS ON
JUNE 15th.
WE ARE REQUESTING SIGNATURES
NOW
>> THANK YOU.
I WILL WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE
NAMES ARE CALLED IF THAT IS
NEXT FOR THE PROCLAMATION
BECAUSE I JUST HAVE AN
ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE BEFORE WE
LEAVE COMMITTEE.
>> WE'VE GOT A WAYS TO GO BUT
YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.
OKAY, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS
FOR COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
REGARDING PROCLAIMING JUNE 15,
2022 TO BE ELDER ABUSE
AWARENESS DAY IN SEATTLE?
NOT SEEING ANY WOULD YOU PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON WHO WOULD LIKE
TO AFFIX THEIR SIGNATURE TO
THIS PROCLAMATION?
>> YES.
NINE SIGNATURES WILL BE AFFIXED
TO THE PROCLAMATION.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY
OTHER BUSINESS AND THEN WE WILL
GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT
AND COLLEAGUES, I WANTED TO
MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS SAW THE
NOTICE THAT THE CITY CLERKS
HAVE JUST SENT OUT AS WELL.
WE ARE SCHEDULED TO HAVE A
FINANCE AND HAS A COMMITTEE
MEETING TOMORROW ON JUNE 1 AT
9:30 A.M.
AND THAT IS BEING RESCHEDULED
UNTIL THURSDAY, JUNE 9 AT 2:00
P.M.
THERE WILL BE INFORMATION
PUBLISHED ABOUT THE AGENDA
COMING OUT FROM THE CITY CLERKS
OFFICE SOON BUT BY OF WAY OF
REMINDER WE WILL HAVE THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING DIRECTOR
APPOINTMENT FIRST UP ON THE
AGENDA AND THEN WILL HAVE THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING RACE AND
SOCIAL JUSTICE REPORT AS WELL
AS THE CITY OFFICE.
THAT MEETING IS GOING TO BE
JUNE 9 AT 2:00 P.M., THAT'S A
THURSDAY SO I APPRECIATE YOUR
FLEXIBILITY.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN
PARTICIPATING OR LISTENING INTO
THE COMMITTEE MEETING INSTEAD
OF TOMORROW JOHN FIRST IT WILL
BE ON THURSDAY, JUNE 9. AND
THANK YOU FOR THE CLERKS IN
THEIR FLEXIBILITY AND SENDING
THAT OUT.
>> DON'T ANYONE GO ANYWHERE.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE
EXECUTIVE SESSION SO LET ME
READ THE STATEMENT FIRST SO WE
CAN GET THE TIME) WILL NOW MOVE
INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AS
PRESIDING OFFICER I'M
ANNOUNCING THE SEATTLE CITY
COUNCIL WILL NOW CONVENE INTO
EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THE PURPOSE OF THE EXECUTIVE
SESSION IS TO DISCUSS PENDING
POTENTIAL OR ACTUAL LITIGATION
AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS
CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL MATTERS WITH
CITY ATTORNEYS AS AUTHORIZED BY
LAW.
A LEGAL MONITOR FROM THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS ALWAYS
PRESENT TO ASSURE THE COUNSEL
PRESERVES QUESTIONS OF POLICY
FOR OPEN SESSION.
I EXPECT THE TIME OF THE
EXECUTIVE SESSION TO BE AT
LEAST 20 MINUTES TOTAL.
IF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS TO
BE EXTENDED BE ON THE 20
MINUTES I WILL ANNOUNCE THE
EXTENSION AND THE EXPECTED
DURATION.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS
EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE CITY
COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE
ADJOURNED.
THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED
CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULED
FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 7 AT 2:00
P.M.
WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE INTO
EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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