>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
THE JULY 27, 2022, MEETING OF
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
TECHNOLOGY AND CITY LIGHT
COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER.
I AM SARA NELSON, CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL
MEMBER SAWANT IS NOT PRESENT.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
WE HAVE AN AGENDA.
WE WILL HAVE A DECISION AND VOTE
ON THE APARTMENT ON THE
APPOINTMENT OF MARKHAM
McINTYRE.
THEN, WE WILL DISCUSS -- I WILL
DISCUSS THE ORDER OF ITEMS
LATER.
ONE ITEM IS A DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE ON MAKING THE 15%
CAP ON DELIVERY SERVICE FEES
PERMANENT.
THIRD WILL BE A DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE VOTE ON AUTHORIZING
CITY LIGHT TO EXECUTE AN
OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE
AGREEMENT AND
TELECOMMUNICATIONS AGREEMENT
WITH THE SNOHOMISH COUNTY PUD.
THEN, A BRIEFING PUBLIC HEARING
AND DISCUSSION OF RESOLUTION
32061, WHICH WOULD APPROVE THE
2022 INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN.
OKAY.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THE
ORDER OF THE AGENDA WILL BE
CHANGED TO MOVE 120370 FROM
ITEM 4 TO ITEM 2. THAT IS TO
CONSTANT ACCOMMODATE THE BILLS
SPONSOR.
THE FIRST WILL BE THE
APPOINTMENT, THE NEXT WILL BE
120379, THIRD WILL BE 120378,
AND THEN THE FOURTH WILL BE THE
RESOLUTION.
HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA IS APPROVED.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
AND WE WILL SHOW THE VIDEO
FIRST.
>> WE ARE THE CITY OF FLOWERS
AND GOODWILL, BUILT ON
INDIGENOUS LAND, THE TRADITIONAL
TERRITORY.
THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL
WELCOMES REMOTE PUBLIC COMMENT
AND IS EAGER TO HEAR FROM
RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A
SPEAKER AND PROVIDED VERBAL
PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN
REGISTER TO IRONS YOU CAN
REGISTER TWO HOURS PRIOR.
SPEAKERS ARE CALLED UPON IN THE
ORDER IN WHICH THEY REGISTERED
ON THE COUNCIL'S WEBSITE.
EACH SPEAKER MUST CALL AND
PROVIDE A PHONE NUMBER AND USE
THE MEETING ID AND PASSCODE
EMAIL UPON CONFIRMATION.
IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE AN EMAIL
CONFIRMATION, PLEASE CHECK YOUR
SPAM OR JUNK MAIL FOLDER.
THE SPEAKER MEETING ID IS
DIFFERENT FROM THE GENERAL
LISTING LINE ID PROVIDED ON THE
AGENDA.
ONCE A SPEAKER'S NAME IS CALLED
, THE MICROPHONE WILL BE UNMUTED
AND AN AUTOMATIC PROMPT WILL
SAY, THE HOST WOULD LIKE YOU TO
UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE.
THAT IS YOUR CUE AND YOUR TURN
TO SPEAK.
AT THAT TIME PRESS á6.
YOU WILL HEAR A PROMPT OF, YOU
ARE UNMUTED.
BE SURE YOUR PHONE IS UNMUTED
SO YOU CAN BE HEARD.
AS A SPEAKER BEGIN BY STATING
YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM YOU ARE
ADDRESSING.
A CHIME WILL SOUND WHEN 10
SECONDS ARE LEFT AND YOU HAVE
USED YOUR TIME.
A GENTLE REMINDER THAT YOU HAVE
USED UP YOUR TIME.
AT THE END OF THE ALLOTTED
TIME, THE MICROPHONE WILL BE
MUTED, AND THE NEXT SPEAKER
REGISTERED WILL BE COLD.
WHAT SPEAKERS HAVE FINISHED
PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT,
PLEASE DISCONNECT AND JOIN US
BY FOLLOWING THE MEETING VIA
THE SEATTLE CHANNEL BROADCAST
OR THROUGH THE LISTING LINE
OPTIONS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT
TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC COMMENT IF
THE SYSTEM IS BEING ABUSED OR
IF THE PROCESS IMPEDES THE
COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO CONDUCT
BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF RESIDENTS
OF THE CITY.
ANY OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE THAT IS
DISRUPTIVE TO THESE PROCEEDINGS
OR NOT FOCUSED ON AN
APPROPRIATE TOPIC AS SPECIFIED
IN COUNCIL RULES MAY LEAD TO
THE SPEAKER BEING MUTED BY THE
PRESIDING OFFICER.
OUR HOPE IS TO PROVIDE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR PRODUCTIVE
DISCUSSIONS THAT WILL ASSIST
OUR ORDERLY CONSIDERATION OF
ISSUES BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS
NOW OPEN.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST
SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO PRESS á6
AFTER YOU HEAR THE PROMPT OF,
YOU HAVE BEEN UNMUTED.
THANK YOU, SEATTLE.
>> WE WILL START WITH IN PERSON
COMMENTARIES, AND EVERYONE
PRESENT AN ONLINE WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES TO SPEAK.
CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE GRAB
THE LIST, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK, YOU ARE WELCOME TO
SIGN UP ON THIS LIST THROUGHOUT
THE COURSE OF THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD.
WE WILL GET TO AT THE END IF
YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED UP YET.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ALEX
ZIMMERMAN.
>> THE NEW MANAGER AND AGENDA.
I DON'T KNOW WHO IS THIS GUY [
INDISCERNIBLE ] WHEN I DON'T
KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HE CAN [
INDISCERNIBLE ] MY EXPERIENCE
RIGHT NOW FOR MANY YEARS, AND I
SPEAK [ INDISCERNIBLE ] WE HAVE
THESE PEOPLE [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
OR $400,000 IS DIFFERENT.
APPROXIMATELY $400,000 [
INDISCERNIBLE ] MY QUESTION,
AND I TALK ABOUT THIS 100 TIMES,
FOR MANY YEARS.
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
>> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER
COMMENTERS IN PERSON, WE WILL
MOVE TO PEOPLE ON THE LIST.
FIRST KOBE BRYANT RODRIGUEZ.
BRIAN, TAKE AWAY.
>> I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE
PRICE CONTROL YOUR COMMITTEE IS
CONSIDERING TODAY.
THIS POLICY HURTS INDEPENDENT
WORKERS [ INDISCERNIBLE ] TO
PICK UP ADDITIONAL WORK TO HAVE
MORE FINANCIAL FREEDOM TO
SUPPORT MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.
I HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB AS A
CREWS TRANSPORTATION
COORDINATOR, BUT DELIVERING FOR
A FEW HOURS EACH WEEK HAS GONE
A LONG WAY IN REACHING MY LIFE
GOALS.
THE CITY COUNCIL COULD HURT THE
RESTAURANTS THEY LOOK TO HELP
AND HURT HARD-WORKING PEOPLE
LIKE ME.
I URGE YOU TO AMEND THE
LEGISLATION, BUT I WILL NOT
INCLUDE INCREASING CUSTOMER FEES
AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS TO
DISCUSS HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO
WORK TOGETHER TO PRESERVE
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR
ECONOMIC CONTRACTORS LIKE ME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE
SEATTLE RESTAURANT ALLIANCE.
I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
HARD WORK AND THE HARD WORK OF
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS AND
PETERSON.
TO COSPONSOR THE LEGISLATION
COMING BEFORE YOUR COMMITTEE
TODAY.
RESTAURANTS HAVE BEEN THE
HARDEST HIT THROUGHOUT THE
PANDEMIC AND DELIVERY FEES WERE
THE ONLY WAY TO GET FOOD TO OUR
GUESTS.
WITH THE PANDEMIC SEEMINGLY
WINDING UP, WE ARE IN A
POSITION WHERE THE PRICING POWER
AND DUOPOLY OF DOORDASH AND
UBEREATS WILL COME BACK TO THE
FOREFRONT.
SMALL INDEPENDENT RESTAURANTS
WILL FACE 30% PLUS DELIVERY
FEES.
WE THINK IT IS ECONOMICALLY
FAIR AND JUST THAT CITY COUNCIL
TAKES UP THIS ACTION AND MAKE
PERMANENT WHAT THEY STARTED.
WE BELIEVE THAT IT WILL NOT
IMPACT DRIVERS BECAUSE DOORDASH
HAS THE ABILITY TO CHARGE OTHER
FEES THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION.
IT IS NOT PRICE-FIXING IT IS
JUST A SIMPLE ECONOMIC ARGUMENT
WITHIN THE INDUSTRY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR
SUPPORT AND LOOK FORWARD TO
HEARING THE FULL VOTES.>> NEXT
WE HAVE FOX MATTHEWS.
>> I AM A DASHER IN THE SEATTLE-
BASED AREA.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMITTEE
REGARDING THIS ISSUE.
I'M HERE TO URGE THE COMMITTEE
TO RECONSIDER PRICE CONTROL ON
FOOD DELIVERY COMMISSIONS.
THIS KIND OF POLICY NEGATIVELY
IMPACTS INDEPENDENT WORKERS
LIKE ME.
I'VE BEEN RELYING ON MY WORK
OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS TO PICK
UP WORK AROUND MY OWN SCHEDULE
WHILE PRIORITIZING MY NEWBORN
CHILD AND PASSION FOR THE ARTS.
RAISING FEES DUE TO THESE RULES
WILL NOT JUST HURT DASHER'S
LIKE ME BUT SMALL BUSINESSES
AND STORES AS WELL.
WE WORK TOGETHER TO GET
CRITICAL ITEMS, INCLUDING FOOD
ANK DELIVERIES TO PEOPLE
ACROSS THE REGION AND HELP
NEIGHBORS KEEP THEIR BUSINESS
STORES OPEN.
I UNDERSTAND THE GOOD
INTENTIONS OF THIS REGULATION
BUT THIS COULD ULTIMATELY HURT
THE VERY RESTAURANTS THAT THE
COUNCIL IS LOOKING TO HELP AND
HURT HARD-WORKING PEOPLE LIKE
ME IN THE PROCESS.
I URGE YOU TO AMEND THE
LEGISLATION SO WILL NOT INCLUDE
CUSTOMER FEES AND BRING WORKERS
TO THE TABLE TO DISCUSS HOW WE
CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER
TO PRESERVE ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS LIKE ME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.>>
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> MY NAME IS BETH JACKSON I AM
A DASHER.
I WAS MADE AWARE THAT CITY
COUNCIL IS TAKING AIM AT
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS WHO
WORK ON PLATFORMS.
THE NEW RULES THAT WOULD
PERMANENTLY LIMIT THE FEES THAT
RESTAURANTS AGREE TO PAY IN
EXCHANGE FOR DELIVERY SERVICES.
THIS POLICY HURTS INDEPENDENT
WORKERS LIKE MYSELF.
WORKING AS A DRIVER OVER THE
PAST SEVERAL YEARS HAS GIVEN ME
THE FLEXIBILITY TO PICK UP WORK
AROUND MY DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS.
I'M A CANCER PATIENT.
I'M ABLE TO PRIORITIZE [
INDISCERNIBLE ] MY INCOME. THE
CITY IS NOT TAKEN INTO
CONSIDERATION HOW IT WILL
IMPACT THOSE TO BETTER OUR
LIVES.
IF THE COUNCIL PUT THESE IN
PLACE IT WILL FORCE THIS TO
RISE PRICES TO CONSUMERS
INCLUDING PAYING DASHER'S LIKE
MYSELF.
AND IT MEANS FEWER ORDERS FOR
RESTAURANTS AND FEW
OPPORTUNITIES.
IF THERE'S NOT AS MUCH WORK TO
GO AROUND, I WOULD LOSE THE
INCOME THAT HAS BECOME CRUCIAL
FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.
PLEASE CONSIDER DASHER'S AND
DELIVERY DRIVERS LIKE MYSELF
BEFORE PASSING PRICE CONTROL
RULES THAT CAN HARM MY INCOME.
THIS IS ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>
>> THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE.
SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT POLICY
AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR THE
WASHINGTON RETAIL ASSOCIATION.
ON BEHALF OF THE RETAIL
INDUSTRY COALITION OF SEATTLE
WE REPRESENT OVER 4500
STOREFRONTS, MANY WITH
OPERATIONS IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE.
MEMBERS RANGE IN SIZE FROM A
SOLE PROPRIETOR TO COMPANIES
WITH THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES.
90% ARE SMALL BUSINESSES.
I'M OFFERING COMMENTS ON
120379, PERMANENTLY OPPOSING
PRICE CONTROLS ON THIRD-PARTY
DELIVERY PLATFORMS.
[ INDISCERNIBLE ] START USING
DELIVERY PLATFORMS TO KEEP
BUSINESSES AFLOAT AND AT THAT
TIME A PRICE CAP WAS REASONABLE.
AS THE ECONOMY CONTINUES TO
RECOVER AND LOOK TO THE FUTURE,
THE PRICE CAP SHOULD EXPIRE.
IT WILL ALLOW MERCHANTS TO
PROVIDE [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
HIGHER PRICES FOR CONSUMERS,
WHICH MEANS LOWER SALES FOR
RETAILERS.
COUPLED WITH EVER-INCREASING
INFLATION, THIS IS A DANGEROUS
COURSE TO HEAD DOWN AND STEAD
IF AN ORDINANCE IS TRULY
NECESSARY, IT SHOULD BE MODELED
AFTER THE APPROACH TAKEN BY
MINNEAPOLIS WERE TRANSPARENCY
AND FLEXIBILITY WERE
INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL
LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
WE STAND READY TO WORK WITH YOU
AND THE ENTIRE COUNSEL ON
ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> HELLO, EVERYONE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> WE CAN.
GO AHEAD.>> THANK YOU.
I'M THE CHEF AT OWNER OF THE
JERK SHACK.
BEING THE ONLY 100% BLACK OWNED
RESTAURANT IN DOWNTOWN SEATTLE,
I'M MADE A POINT TO BE ON THIS
CONFERENCE CALL THAT COUNCIL
MEETING SO I CAN EXPRESS THAT
THE 15% CAP IS ACTUALLY A GOOD
THING TO BE PERMANENT BECAUSE
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC I REFUSED
TO BE ON THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY
APPS BECAUSE A 30% OR HIGHER OR
20% OR HIGHER FEES TAKE AWAY
THE PROFIT THAT THE RESTAURANT
WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A
DELIVERY SERVICE.
WHEN THE FEES WERE DROPPED TO
15%, I SAID, OKAY, I CAN DO
THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
EXPRESS THAT BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC HAPPENED, THEY WOULD
PUT UP ON THEIR PLATFORMS ANYWAY
[ INDISCERNIBLE ] PRACTICES OF
BRINGING US IN THE LOOP AND
PUTTING LONG MENUS ON THE
WEBSITE AND HAVING DELIVERY
DRIVERS PAY FOR FOOD WITH A
SEPARATE CREDIT CARD.
WHEN CUSTOMERS WOULD GET WRONG
ITEMS OR ITEMS THAT THEY DIDN'T
SERVE ANYMORE, THEY WOULD
COMPLAIN TO THE RESTAURANT.
IF THEY GO UP, I WILL NO LONGER
BE ABLE TO USE THIRD-PARTY
SERVICES BECAUSE I'D RATHER [
INDISCERNIBLE ] THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I AM THE GOVERNMENT
LEGISLATIONS MANAGER FOR
DOORDASH.
DOORDASH KNOWS THAT PRICE
CONTROLS LEAD TO HIGHER COSTS,
FEWER ORDERS AND REVENUE FOR
LOCAL RESTAURANTS.
THAT IS WHY WE URGE CITY
COUNCIL TO SIT TO FIND A BETTER
SOLUTION.
IN APRI OF 2021, DOORDASH HAD
NEW PRICING PLANS THAT GIVE
SMALL AND MEDIUM RESTAURANTS
THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE THE LEVEL
OF SERVICE THEY WANT.
INCLUDES A 15% COMMISSION RATE
AND THE FLEXIBILITY TO CHANGE
THE PLAN WHENEVER THEY WANT.
DOORDASH DOES NOT SUPPORT --
>> YOU CUT OUT AFTER PRICING
PLANS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE?>>
YES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
SPOT GREAT.
I WILL PICK UP WHERE I LEFT
OFF.
DOORDASH DOES NOT SUPPORT
PERMANENT CONTROLS AND WE KNOW
IT'S IMPERATIVE TO GET THE
DETAILS OF THIS LEGISLATION
RIGHT.
ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS COULD LEAD
TO INFLATED PRICES FOR
CUSTOMERS, FURTHER EXACERBATING
THE PROBLEM OF REDUCED ORDERS
FOR RESTAURANTS AND FEWER
EARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
DASHERS.
THE COUNCIL HAS TWO AMENDMENTS
TO THIS LEGISLATION MADE
AVAILABLE MINUTES FOR BEFORE
TODAY'S HEARING.
PLEASE ENSURE THAT THEY WILL
NOT FURTHER HURT THE
RESTAURANTS YOU ARE TRYING TO
PROTECT.
THANK YOU.
WE WILL MOVE ON AND COME BACK
TO YOU.
GO AHEAD.
>> I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE
SEATTLE LATINO CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE.
GOOD MORNING.
WE ARE SPEAKING AGAINST THE
POSITION.
I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT WE
WERE NOT CONSULTED BY ANYONE ON
THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT
THE IMPACT THAT THIS INITIATIVE
COULD HAVE ON SMALL LATINO
RESTAURANT OWNERS.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PROMISE OF
DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION ON
ACTION TAKEN BY CITY COUNCIL?
AS OWNERS WE KNOW THE NEEDS OF
OUR BUSINESSES MORE THAN
ANYONE.
MANY MEMBERS HAVE PARTNERSHIPS
WITH THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY APPS
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE
TERMS AND SERVICES OF WORKING.
DOORDASH HAS FLEXIBLE AND
TRANSPARENT PRICING AND OWNERS
CAN CHOOSE DELIVERY COMMISSIONS
AT THE PROPOSED CAP RATE OF 15%.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS PROPOSAL
[ INDISCERNIBLE ] THE SUPPORT
SYSTEM THAT GOT THEM THROUGH
THE PANDEMIC.
OUR MISSION IS TO PROTECT JOBS
AND EMPLOYERS WHO PROVIDE THEM.
CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE MORE
THOUGHTFUL IN HELPING LOCAL
BUSINESSES.
WE SUGGEST THEY CONSIDER THE
APPROACH TAKEN BY THE CITY OF
MINNEAPOLIS WERE TRANSPARENCY
AND FLEXIBILITY WERE CONSIDERED
BEFORE FINALIZATION.
WE HOPE THIS INITIATIVE DOES
NOT PASS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
TRAVIS ROSENTHAL.
>> IT IS GOOD MORNING.
I'M THE OF PIKES PEAK
HOSPITALITY GROUP.
MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE
THIS PANDEMIC.
PEOPLES EXPECTATIONS AND DESIRES
, THIS IS A NEW NORMAL FOR
DINING.
UNFORTUNATELY, I CANNOT CREATE
MY OWN APT TO COMPETE WITH
DOORDASH AND WE RELY 100% ON
THEIR PLATFORMS TO REACH MY
GUESTS.
DELIVERY DRIVERS WILL NOT BE
AFFECTED BY THIS LEGISLATION.
THERE ARE THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY
SERVICES INCREASE PRICES AND
MAINTAIN [ INDISCERNIBLE ] JUST
AS THEY'VE DONE.
I HAVE A FRIEND IN DALLAS WHO
OWNS A DUMPLING SHOP.
THESE ARE UNSUSTAINABLE FOR
SMALL BUSINESSES.
WE NEED GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> WE WILL GO BACK TO SUZANNE,
IF YOU ARE THERE.
PRESS á6.
>> I AM HERE.
I'M THE OWNER OF [
INDISCERNIBLE ] CAFC.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TODAY.
BY RESTAURANT, ALONG WITH ALL
OF YOUR FAVORITE NEIGHBORHOOD
RESTAURANTS HAVE BEEN THROUGH A
LOT MOST OF US ARE NOWHERE NEAR
BEING OUT OF THE WOODS.
WE CARRY OVER $200,000 IN DEBT
AND I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO
SURVIVE, BUT THIS IS [
INDISCERNIBLE ] UNIQUE IN THE
SPACE.
WE DID NOT WORK WITH THIRD
PARTIES DUE TO THE 30%
COMMISSION.
WE CAME TO RELY ON THE SERVICES
BECAUSE OF THE 15% COMMISSION
CAP.
THESE DELIVERIES BEGAN TO
REPRESENT HALF OF OUR SALES.
THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY SERVICES
WERE AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR
RESTAURANTS AND HELPED US MADE
IT THROUGH AN IMPOSSIBLY
DIFFICULT TIME. AS CUSTOMERS
HAVE RETURNED TO DINING IN,
CUSTOMERS CONTINUE TO RELY ON
THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY AS A
ROUTINE OPTION.
WE BEEN GRATEFUL THAT THE CITY
HAS MAINTAINED THE COMMISSION
CAP.
THE RATIONALE FOR CAPPING THIS
IS A SOUND TODAY AS EVER, MAYBE
MORE.
UNLESS FEES ARE PERMANENTLY
CAPPED AT 15%, WE WILL EXPECT
HIGH COMMISSIONS TO RETURN, AND
THAT WILL FORCE IMPOSSIBLE
CHOICES ON HER NETWORK OF
LOCALLY OWNED RESTAURANTS LIKE
MYSELF.
WE WILL OPT OUT.
IT WILL MEAN REDUCED BUSINESS
FOR DELIVERY DRIVERS AND
REDUCED SALES AND REDUCED
OPPORTUNITIES FOR US AS A
BUSINESS.
WITH MARGINS AS RAZOR THIN AS
THEY ARE, WE KNOW THAT [
INDISCERNIBLE ] WE URGE YOU TO
MAKE THIS CAP PERMANENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD.
THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
ITEM INTO THE RECORD.
>> APPOINTMENT OF MARKHAM
McINTYRE AS DIRECTOR OF THE
OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
AND POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> I WANT TO NOTE, MARKHAM
McINTYRE WOULD BE THE FIRST
DIRECTOR WITH FORMAL
CONFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE
ADVOCATING FOR AND DEVELOPING
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY.
HE HAS HAD MANY YEARS OF DIRECT
WORK AND SITTING DOWN AT THE
TABLE AND HASHING OUT DETAILS
OF SOLUTIONS WITH THE PRIVATE
SECTOR.
THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE
KNOWING HOW TO HELP BUSINESSES
START AND GROW IN SEATTLE IS
NOT SELF-EVIDENT.
NOR IS IT OBVIOUS THAT HELPING
BIPOC ENTREPRENEURS CREATE JOBS
AND BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH
FOR THEMSELVES, THEIR FAMILIES,
AND COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIAL TO
ATTAINING THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT
EQUITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE
POLICY GOALS OF THE CITY OF
SEATTLE.
THAT HAS BEEN HIS DAY JOB FOR
YEARS AND YEARS.
AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER
MYSELF, I SEE HIM ADVOCATING
FOR BUSINESSES ALL OVER
SEATTLE.
HIS RESUME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
>> THANK YOU.
IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE
TO YOU TODAY THE NOMINEE FOR THE
DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, MARKHAM McINTYRE.
I'VE HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE TO
WORK WITH HIM THESE LAST FEW
MONTHS AND HAVE BEEN TRULY
IMPRESSED WITH HIS ABILITY TO
STRATEGICALLY DEVELOP NEW
INITIATIVES AND ACT WITH
INTENTION.
IN THE TIME SINCE HE HAS TAKEN
THE HELM AS INTERIM DIRECTOR,
THE DEPARTMENT HAS FOUND SURE
FOOTING AND IN THE LAST FIVE
YEARS WE'VE HAD FIVE OED
DIRECTORS. HE HAS WORKED
DILIGENTLY REBUILD THE TEAM AND
CREATE SOLID FOUNDATION, TRIAGE
AND CONNECT WITH BUSINESSES
LARGE AND SMALL TO IDENTIFY THE
BEST WAYS THE DEPARTMENT CAN BE
OF SERVICE TO THE GREATER
SEATTLE COMMUNITY.
IF HIS IMPRESSIVE WORK DID NOT
ALREADY SPEAK FOR ITSELF, OUR
OFFICE CONSULTED WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO INFORM THE
DECISION WHETHER TO REFER HIS
NOMINATION TO YOU, INCLUDING
REPRESENTATIVES FROM BUSINESSES
AND ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING
THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
COUNCIL OF KING COUNTY, THE
WASHINGTON STATE DEPARTMENT OF
COMMERCE, THE SEATTLE KRAKEN,
THE URBAN LEAGUE OF GREATER
SEATTLE, FARESTART, AND THE
BUSINESS IMPACT NETWORK.
COLLECTIVELY, THESE
STAKEHOLDERS SEE HIM AS A
COMPETENT LEADER WHO BRINGS
GREAT JUDGMENT, SOLUTION
ORIENTED THINKING, AND WORKS
HARD TO DELIVER FOR
ENTREPRENEURS AND EMPLOYEES
ACROSS THE SEATTLE.
WITH 39 STAFF, OED IS A SMALL
DEPARTMENT BUT WITH A CALM AND
CAPABLE LEADER AT THE HELM, THE
IMPACT CAN BE ALMOST
IMMEASURABLE.
FROM EXPANDING ACCESS TO
TRAINING AND CAREER
OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECTING
STRUGGLING BUSINESSES TO
TECHNICAL INFORMATION, THE
DEPARTMENT AND THE EMPLOYEES
ARE ESSENTIAL AND WE ARE SO
LUCKY THAT HIS LEADERSHIP TO
SUPERCHARGE A TEAM THAT IS
CRITICAL FOR THE ECONOMIC
ENGINE.
I PRESENT TO YOU MARKHAM
McINTYRE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS AND
INTRODUCTION.
MY NAME IS MARKHAM McINTYRE,
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT
THIS ROLE.
WE HAVE ALL THE RIGHT
INGREDIENTS IN THIS REGION TO
LEAD THE NATION IN THE FUTURE
OF EQUITABLE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND WE
HAVE THE RIGHT SET OF VALUES TO
PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND
FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FUTURE OF
THE ECONOMY WILL BE LIKE,
HOWEVER, WE CAN ONLY ACHIEVE
THAT IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT
INTENTION, ORGANIZATION AND
CREATIVITY.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH YOU AS WE DESIGN THAT
FUTURE.
I'M EXCITED FOR THE DISCUSSION
TODAY AND TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS
ON WHERE WE GO NEXT.>> I'M SORRY
FOR BEING SO CASUAL IN MY
INTRODUCTION.
COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SUBMITTED
QUESTIONS FOR THE INTERIM
DIRECTOR, AND THEY ARE LINKED
ON THE AGENDA.
RIGHT NOW I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR
TO MY COLLEAGUES TO ASK ANY
QUESTIONS OR ANY CLARIFICATIONS.
OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS.
>> I WAS WAITING FOR OTHER
PEOPLE TO GO FIRST.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE Q&A
-- A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD
LOVE TO HEAR YOU RIFF -- I WANT
TO AVOID A VARIETY OF BROKE
EXPECTATIONS THAT WE CANNOT
DELIVER ON.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU MEAN
ABOUT ROGUE EXPECTATIONS AND
HOW YOU WILL ADDRESS WHICH
DELAYED INITIATIVES FIT THE
CATTERY CATEGORY OF ROGUE
EXPECTATIONS.
ONE THING I INQUIRED ABOUT WAS
THE LEGACY BUSINESS INITIATIVE
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH
DIRECTOR LEE FOR SEVERAL YEARS
AND WE ARE READY TO LAUNCH A
PILOT.
I WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I DID NOT SEE IT AS A ROGUE
EXPECTATION AND HAVE BEEN
WORKING CLOSELY WITH OED ON
THAT.
I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU
DIRECTLY ON WHAT THINGS YOU
MIGHT THINK OF AS BEING ROGUE
EXPECTATIONS.
AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE
QUESTION.
>> TO BE CLEAR, I WAS NOT
MEANING TO CURE TO THE LEGACY
WORK AS A ROGUE EXPECTATION.
IT SHOWS THAT MORE AND SOFT
CONVERSATIONS WERE OED, AND I
THINK I HAVE BEEN CLEAR IN
TAKING THIS ROLE THAT A
FOUNDATIONAL THING IS OED NEEDS
TO BE CLEAR ABOUT ITS FUNCTION
IN THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC
ECOSYSTEM.
WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE CANNOT
DO, AND WHERE THE CITY CAN MAKE
THE MOST IMPACT.
I FOUND WORKING AS AN OUTSIDE [
INDISCERNIBLE ] WE GET
STRETCHED AND PULLED WITHIN THE
CITY IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
WAYS.
WE GET PULLED BY DEPARTMENTS
AND EXECUTIVES OFFICE AND
COUNSEL AND PUSHED AND PULLED
IN DIFFERENT WAYS SO WE DON'T
HAVE FOCUS, AND IT DOES NOT
ALLOW US TO EXECUTE AND KEEP
PRIORITIES THAT WE NEED TO DO
TO MAKE SURE THE ECONOMY IS
MOVING FORWARD AND EVOLVING.
IT IS MORE ABOUT US BEING CLEAR
IN OUR IDENTITY INSIDE AND
OUTSIDE THE CITY AND STICKING
TO IT SO WE DON'T DILUTE OUR
ABILITY TO HAVE AN IMPACT AND
MAKE CHANGE.>> YOU TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STALLED
LEGACY BUSINESS INITIATIVE.
WE WERE POISED TO LAUNCH AND IT
WAS GOING TO BE SMALL.
IT WAS BUILT OFF OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF A COUPLE OF
REPORTS THAT THE COMMISSION HAD
WORKED CONSULTANTS ON.
I HAD HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT
FOLKS WERE CONCERNED -- YOU KNOW
-- THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE
GOING DOWN THIS ROAD.
IDENTIFYING BUSINESSES BECAUSE
THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG
TIME AND THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.
IS REALLY ABOUT BUSINESSES THAT
ARE INTEGRAL TO COMMUNITIES AND
FOCUS ON BIPOC, CULTURAL
GATHERING PLACES -- THE
THINKING IS WE WANT TO SUPPORT
ALL SMALL BUSINESSES, NEW AS
WELL IS OLD, BUT ALL BUSINESSES
HAVE A SPECIAL ROLE IN THE
CITY'S HISTORY.
AND IDENTITY OF A COMMUNITY.
>> I THINK OUR TEAM IS WORKING
ON THE SPECIFICS AROUND LEGACY
BUSINESS PROPOSAL, INCLUDING
SUCCESSION PLANNING.
TO ME, THE IDEAS OF LEGACY
BUSINESS IS COMMERCIAL
AFFORDABILITY, SO WE ARE VERY
EXCITED, HAVING BEEN ABLE TO
WORK WITH FEDERAL RELIEF FUNDS
TO DEVELOP NEW IDEAS AROUND
COMMERCIAL AFFORDABILITY.
RETURNING TO NEIGHBORHOODS IF
THEY HAVE BEEN DISPLACED.
AND VISITING WITH A COUPLE OF
BUSINESSES ON BEACON HILL THAT
WERE DISPLACED FOR A VARIETY OF
REASONS AND THEY ARE WORKING
WITH THE LANDLORD TO BUILD OUT
NEW SPACE AND RETURN.
THERE IS A CONTINUUM OF
AFFORDABILITY ISSUES, AND WE
NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN
MAKE THE MOST IMPACT, WHERE CAN
WE HELP THOSE BUSINESSES FIND
THE PATHWAY FORWARD TO
STABILIZE AND GROW.
I BELIEVE IT IS A BROADER ISSUE
AROUND COMMERCIAL AFFORDABILITY
AROUND THE CITY.>> CLOSING OUT,
WE HAVE LEGISLATION REGULATIONS
TIED TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH STATE
OF EMERGENCY, THE BAN ON RENT
INCREASES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES
AND NONPROFITS IS ONE OF THOSE
BILLS.
RIGHT NOW THERE IS A BAN ON
RENT INCREASES IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES
AND NONPROFITS THAT WILL BE
GOING AWAY WHEN THE STATE OF
EMERGENCY IS LIFTED.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND TIME
TALKING TO YOU, AND THE CHAIR
ABOUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING
THAT SHOULD BE PUT IN ITS
PLACE.
THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU.
I THINK I WROTE INTO COUNSEL
WHEN LEGACY BUSINESSES WAS IN
DEVELOPMENT.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHICH
BUSINESSES THE CITY IS
TARGETING TO HELP.
THE RESOURCES OF OED ARE VERY
THIN AND MY QUESTION, I BELIEVE
BACK THEN WAS SHOULD WE BE
HELPING BUSINESSES THAT ARE
ALREADY WELL-ESTABLISHED?
OR SHOULD WE HELP BUSINESSES
THAT ARE NEW AND STRUGGLING TO
GET A FOOTHOLD, MANY OWNED BY
IMMIGRANT FAMILIES AND OWNING A
SMALL TEST -- [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
POLICIES ARE APPLIED AND IF THEY
BENEFIT -- IF THEY BENEFIT OUR
CONSTITUENTS IN A CONSISTENT
MANNER.
WE CAN CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT
THAT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?>>
GOOD MORNING, TO BOTH OF YOU.
I AM VERY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU
HERE.
I KNOW EVERYONE ELSE HAS BEEN
FORMAL, BUT I WILL TAKE IT BACK.
DIRECTOR McINTYRE, YOU WROTE IN
YOUR RESPONSE THAT YOU HAD SUCH
HIGH TURNOVER WITH SO MANY
DIFFERENT DIRECTORS, JUST THAT
CONSISTENCY HAS GONE BY THE
WAYSIDE.
AND THAT IS NO-FAULT TO ANYONE,
IT'S JUST THE SITUATION WE ARE
IN.
AND THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
TENET OF BEING A LEADER.
YOU ARE WELL POISED TO TAKE US
TO PLACE THAT OED HAS NOT BEEN
IN A LONG TIME.
I WILL ASK YOU QUESTIONS IN THE
MINUTE.
SIMILARLY TO OED, DOWNTOWN IS
WELL-POSITIONED FOR WHEN WE
COME BACK.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS AS BAD AS
THE NEWS MEDIA MADE IT OUT TO
BE.
DURING THE DOWNTOWN SALES
ASSOCIATION GALA THEY HAD [
INDISCERNIBLE ] WHO SPOKE.
HE IS QUOTED AS SAYING WHEN I
COMPARE THIS DOWNTOWN TODAY TO
WHAT I SAW 25 YEARS AGO, YOU
HAVE ALREADY DONE THE HARD WORK
AND POSITIONS THE CITY FOR
SUCCESS.
WE DO HAVE A TOUGH ROAD AHEAD
OF US, AND WE CAN DO IT
TOGETHER.
AT THIS VERY MOMENT YOU HAVE A
DEPARTMENT AND A DOWNTOWN AND
THE REST OF THE CITY READY TO
GO.
I COULD NOT THINK OF A BETTER
PERSON TO DO IT THEN YOU.
I KNOW IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WE
TALKED ABOUT THE FARMERS
MARKETS.
THE SMALLEST BUSINESSES THAT
PROVIDE FOOD AND NUTRITION FOR
SEATTLE . THAT IS HOW PIKES
PLACE STARTED.
I WOULD ASK WHAT YOU CAN HELP
TO SUPPORT FARMERS MARKETS AND,
JUST FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC,
OUR DISCUSSION IN THE PAST HAS
BEEN I'VE REQUESTED REPORTS
FROM OED ABOUT HOW THEY CAN
BETTER SUPPORT FARMERS MARKETS
AS A CONSTELLATION BECAUSE
THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE.
WHEN I MADE THIS REQUEST I WAS
TOLD I HAD TO FUND A STAFF
POSITION FOR.
I ATTEMPTED TO AND WE HAD SOME
BACK ROOM -- NOT REALLY BACK
ROOM, BUT IT WAS ON THE RECORD,
ACTUALLY.
JUST TO SAY, I WILL FUND A
SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I HEAR IS
THE NEED, BUT I NEED THIS
REPORT DONE WELL.
THE REPORT WAS NEVER DONE IN
THE FARMERS MARKETS DON'T HAVE
THAT SUPPORT.
THAT IS OKAY.
IT IS JUST WHERE WE ARE AT.
DIRECTOR McINTYRE, I KNOW YOU
HAVE A LOVE FOR FARMERS
MARKETS.
WHAT CAN WE BE DOING TO SUPPORT
THEM?>> YOU KNOW I HAVE A LOVE
FOR FARMERS MARKETS.
FOOD IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY
HEART.
AND FOOD AS A BUSINESS IS NEAR
AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
WE HAVE AN INTERESTING ROLE AT
OED WHERE WE HANDLE EVENTS
PERMITS.
AND NOW WE WANT TO TAKE ON THE
FARMERS MARKET PERMITS AND MAKE
IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR THE
SMALLEST BUSINESSES WORKING WITH
BUREAUCRACY.
IT IS A BURDEN.
AND WE NEED TO STREAMLINE AND
MAKE IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE
WHILE WE ASKED FOR WHATEVER
INFORMATION THAT WE ASK FOR.
SO WE WILL UNDERGO, WE HAVE AN
AMBITION TO CLEANUP ALL
VARIETIES OF THOSE ACTIVITY
PERMITS, INCLUDING FARMERS
MARKETS SO THEY HAVE A ONE-STOP
SHOP AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO
TO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH
I THINK WAS YOUR AMBITION.
OUR SPECIAL EVENTS TEAM IS
WORKING ON LINGERING ISSUES
THAT HAVE BEEN CAUSING
PROBLEMS, FOR INSTANCE, ALCOHOL
SALES OR TASTINGS ON PUBLIC
LAND.
WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD A REPORT
WITH THEM AND STABILIZE
OURSELVES IN HOUSE SO WE CAN
PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE FOR THEM
ONGOING.>> I'M EXCITED TO WORK
WITH YOU.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT SECTOR OF OUR
ECONOMY IS [ INDISCERNIBLE ].
WHEN I LOOK AT BALLARD, THEY'VE
ALWAYS HAD A STRONG ECONOMY
EVEN WHEN IT WAS NOT DESIRED BY
THOSE OUTSIDE OF BALLARD.
THINGS CHANGE AND IT'S OKAY.
NOW BALLARD AVENUE IS WHERE YOU
WERE REALLY NICE JEANS.
THE STRONG ECONOMY HAS BEEN
THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN HAVE A
JOB THAT PAYS IN A FAMILY WAGE
WITHOUT GOING INTO DEBT FOR
EDUCATION OR ANYTHING ELSE.
WHEN I LOOK AT FISHERMAN'S
TERMINAL, I SEE THE MAST ON
EVERY VESSEL BEING A SMALL
BUSINESS.
WITH THAT, WITHIN THE SHIP CANAL
AND FRESHWATER, IF A VESSEL,
WHETHER IT IS A YACHT OR
FISHING VESSEL, IF THEY CANNOT
GET FULL SERVICE, THEY WILL
CHOOSE TO GO TO A DIFFERENT
PORT.
THAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF EACH
OF THESE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.
THEY EACH HAVE SUCH A HIGH
OVERHEAD THAT THEY CANNOT ALL
BE UNDER ONE BUSINESS.
UNDERSTANDING THE CONSTELLATION
OF BUSINESSES CREATES A PORT
THAT ATTRACTS DIFFERENT TYPES
OF WORK, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS
AND WAYS TO SUPPORT THIS
CONSTELLATION OF MARITIME
BUSINESSES?>> MARITIME ECONOMY
IS IMPORTANT AS WE COME OUT OF
THE PANDEMIC, THERE IS A FOCUS
ON ECONOMIC RESILIENCE AND
REQUIRES A DIVERSITY OF
INDUSTRY.
IT IS CERTAINLY PART OF OUR
ECONOMIC RESILIENCE PLAN.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT
THE TURNOVER AT OED, BUT WE
HAVE SOME INCREDIBLE TALENT AND
STAFF WORKING ON ALL OF THESE
ISSUES.
IT IS NOT AS IF WE ARE
FLOUNDERING.
IT'S MORE OF HOW DO WE HAVE
FOCUS GOING FORWARD.
I WILL MENTION THE MIRROR TIMING
LEAD AND HE IS A ROCK STAR AND
COMES IN HIGHLY NETWORKED WITH
THE MARITIME COMMUNITY
UNDERSTANDING DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVES AND ABLE TO [
INDISCERNIBLE ] WORKFORCE
ISSUES AND A VARIETY OF OTHERS.
A COUPLE THINGS WE ARE GOING TO
WORK ON, FOCUS ON LAND-USE AND
HOW WE PRODUCE [ INDISCERNIBLE
] DIVERSITY OF NEEDS, SECOND,
THEY HAVE AN AGING WORKFORCE
AND WHAT ARE WE DOING TO
SUPPORT THEM.
THE PARTNERSHIP IS A WAY WE CAN
COME IN AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF
THE MARITIME FUTURE, NOT JUST
THE CURRENT AND WE WANT TO SEE
MORE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT
WERE WE CAN WORK WITH THE
COLLEGES IN A VARIETY OF
PLAYERS TO SUPPORT THE MARITIME
INDUSTRY.>> YOU ACTUALLY
ANSWERED ALL MY FOLLOW-UP
QUESTIONS.
THIS IS ANOTHER DEMONSTRATION
OF YOUR LEADERSHIP.
YOU ARE WELL-PLACED TO
ACCOMPLISH GREAT THINGS.
I'M EXCITED TO GET THIS WORK
DONE WITH YOU.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION.
IN YOUR RESPONSES, AND YOU MAY
HAVE MENTIONED IT IN YOUR
PRESENTATION ON JUNE 22nd WE
TALKED ABOUT THE VISION FOR
OED, YOU SAY IT NEEDS TO BUILD
OUT RESEARCH AND DATA CAPACITY.
WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT?
AND WHAT DATA DO YOU WISH YOU
COULD'VE GOTTEN FROM THE CITY
WHEN YOU WILL WORKING FOR THE
CHAMBER?>> YOU HIT IT ON THE
HEAD.
THIS IS PART OF COMING FROM AN
EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDER TO NOW ON
THE INSIDE.
I WANTED TO HAVE THE CITY
PRODUCE A FINGER ON THE PULSE
OF THE ECONOMY SO THAT EXTERNAL
STAKEHOLDERS CAN HAVE A CLEAR
SENSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AND
WHERE THEY CAN MAKE AN IMPACT.
I WOULD LOVE FOR OED TO DELIVER
THAT PRODUCT.
WE JUST HIRED A PERSON TO LEAD
OUR RESEARCH AND DATA EFFORTS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY COMING
OUT OF THE PANDEMIC.
THE KEY QUESTION THAT I WANT US
TO BE THINKING OF WHENEVER OED
IS WORKING ON PROJECTS OR
DESIGNING PRODUCTS LIKE A
FINGER ON THE PULSE SURVEY, IS
WHO BENEFITS?
THAT IS THE QUESTION WE HAVE TO
ASK OURSELVES AND THAT HAS TO
BE GUIDING OUR DECISIONS ALWAYS.
AS WE DEVELOP RESEARCH AND DATA
, THAT WILL HELP US ANSWER WHO
BENEFITS AND MAKE SMART CHOICES
WHERE WE PUT OUR RESOURCES AND
ENERGY.
IT IS NOT JUST US.
I WANT TO HELP INFORM EXTERNAL
STAKEHOLDERS.
IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
HELPS ALIGN US SO WE CAN MAKE
CHOICES ABOUT SHARED OBJECTIVES
THAT WILL MOVE US TO A MORE
EQUITABLE ECONOMY.>> I WAS
WONDERING BACK IN THE DAY, HOW
MANY SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THERE
IN SEATTLE WITH X NUMBER OF
EMPLOYEES OR FEWER, OR WHAT IS
THE CHANGE IN SMALL BUSINESS
REVENUE SINCE THE PANDEMIC
STARTED.
I DEFINITELY SEE THE NEED FOR
MORE DATA.
AND CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
I HAD, LET'S SEE, I HAD A
QUESTION THAT I SUBMITTED TO
YOU.
THE NEED TO WORK WELL WITH
OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND NOT RE-
CREATE THE WHEEL. THAT IS
BASICALLY JUST AVOIDING SILOS
IN CITY GOVERNMENT.
CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT
YOU ARE PLANNING WITH THE
OFFICE OF IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE
AFFAIRS?>> SURE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES
WHERE THIS INTENT WILL BEAR
FRUIT.
FIGURING OUT OUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND
STAYING FOCUSED AND DISCIPLINED
ON OUR PRIORITIES.
IT WILL HELP HOW WE RELATE TO
OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS
ABOUT THEIR PRIORITIES AND
FIGURE OUT HOW THEY MESH
TOGETHER.
THE OFFICE OF IMMIGRANT AND
REFUGEE AFFAIRS, I'VE GONE TO A
NUMBER OF WALKING TOWARDS TO
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY TO
MEET WITH DIFFERENT BUSINESSES,
AND WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE
IMMIGRANT BUSINESS POPULATION
WHO DOES NOT GET THE TIME AND
ATTENTION THAT THEY DESERVE.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO
OUTREACH TO LISTEN TO THEM, BUT
HOW TO DEVELOP PROGRAMS TO
SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES AND
SUPPORT THOSE WORKERS IN
THOUGHTFUL AND CONSIDERATE WAYS.
ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT OED
DID A GOOD JOB OF OVER THE
PANDEMIC AND WE WOULD LIKE TO
CONTINUE TO SCALEUP IS LANGUAGE
ACCESS WORK.
WE WORKED WITH LAKE CITY
COLLECTIVE TO BUILD OUT A
LANGUAGE RESOURCE LINE, WHICH
WAS HUGELY HELPFUL FOR
BUSINESSES WHO NEEDED IN
LANGUAGE SUPPORT TO ACCESS
RELIEF FUNDS FOR PUBLIC HEALTH
MANDATES.
IT IS SUCH AN INCREDIBLE
RESOURCE FOR BUSINESSES THAT
HAVE ENGLISH AS A SECOND
LANGUAGE.
[ INDISCERNIBLE ] AND THE
PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT SIDE.
THERE IS INTEREST FROM BOTH
DEPARTMENTS TO COLLABORATE IN A
NEW AND CREATIVE WAY.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I WOULD SAY, I DID NOT REALIZE
THE BREATH OF VETTING THAT
OCCURRED.
AND THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
ALL I WILL SAY IS THAT I CANNOT
THINK OF A BETTER PERSON FOR
THIS POSITION.
YOU UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL
IMPACT OF WELL-INTENTIONED
POLICY AND HOW IT MIGHT PLAY
OUT IN REALITY AND YOU LEAD WITH
THE GOALS THAT I THINK ALL
DEPARTMENTS SHARE AND ARE IN
LINE WITH SEATTLE'S PROGRESSIVE
VALUES.
I WILL CLOSE DISCUSSION NOW AND
MOVE TO A VOTE, IF THAT IS OKAY
WITH EVERYONE.
I WILL MOVE PASSAGE OF
APPOINTMENT 02279. IS THERE A
SECOND?
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THIS
APPOINTMENT.
OTHER ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON RECOMMENDTION THAT THE
APPOINTMENT PASSES.
[ CALLING ROLE ]
>> THREE IN FAVOR, NONE
OPPOSED.>> CONGRATULATIONS.
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION --
I'M JUST GOING TO STOP TALKING
RIGHT NOW.
CONGRATULATIONS, AND WE WILL
HAVE THE VOTE AT THE NEXT FULL
COUNCIL MEETING.
YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME, BUT
NOT REQUIRED.
CONGRATULATIONS.
WITH THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE
SECOND ITEM INTO THE RECORD.>>
COUNCIL BILLAN ORDINANCE
RELATING TO 120379.REGULATIONS
OF FOOD DELIVERY PLATFORMS;
ESTABLISHING REQUIREMENTS FOR
FOOD DELIVERY PLATFORMS
PROVIDING DELIVERY SERVICES TO
RESTAURANTS; AND AMENDING
CHAPTER 7.30 OF THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE.
>> THIS IS THE SECOND
DISCUSSION.
LAST TIME WE HAD A PRESENTATION
FROM CENTRAL STAFF AND WE
DISCUSSED THE DETAILS OF THE
PROPOSAL LEGISLATION.
I WANT TO SAY THAT MAKING THIS
15% CAP ON RESTAURANT DELIVERY
SERVICE FEE PERMANENT WILL
PROVIDE DESPERATELY NEEDED
RELIEF TO RESTAURANTS AND
PREDICTABILITY.
I THINK COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSE,
WHO IS JOINING US TODAY, AND
THE COSPONSOR, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS, FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS
AND WE NEED TO MOVE THE BILL.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, WOULD
YOU LIKE TO DO THAT?
I WILL MOVE AND ASK FOR A
SECOND.
I MOVE THAT COUNCIL BILL
120379.
IS THERE A SECOND?
I AM WAITING FOR A SECOND.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN, I WILL
GIVE YOU THE FLOOR.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS BILL
TWO WEEKS AGO IN THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND
MAKING TIME TODAY TO DISCUSS
AND IDEALLY VOTE ON THIS BILL.
I WANT TO THANK KARINA BULL FOR
HER HARD WORK ON THIS.
I BELIEVE THIS IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE STEADFAST SUPPORT OF
SEATTLE SMALL BUSINESS
COMMUNITY.
EVEN THOUGH I DON'T SERVE ON
THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, I
APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK
ON THIS.
TO SUPPORT THE DIVERSE
RESTAURANTS, I AM COSPONSORING
THIS LEGISLATION WITH
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS TO MAKE
PERMANENT THE 15% CAP ON FEES
THAT THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY
CORPORATIONS CAN CHARGE.
THIS LEGISLATION ADDS
FLEXIBILITY BY ENABLING A
RESTAURANT TO OPT OUT OF THE
15% CALF CAP.
A SENSIBLE 15% CAP WAS ADOPTED
AS THE CIVIL EMERGENCY ORDER IN
2020 AND HELPING MANY LOCAL
RESTAURANTS SURVIVED THE
PANDEMIC.
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC DELIVERY
FEES WERE AS HIGH AS 30% AND BE
CAUSE THE EMERGENCY COULD END
SOON.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE
COMMITTEE TO ADOPT THE
LEGISLATION AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
THANK YOU.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT
THE CENTRAL STAFF MEMBER,
KARINA BULL, IS HERE TO TALK
ABOUT THE AMENDMENT IN ANSWER
QUESTION.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, I OPEN
IT UP TO YOU.>> THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN FOR
ALLOWING ME TO COSPONSOR THIS
WITH YOU AND THANK YOU TO
SEATTLE RESTAURANTS FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL TO US.
CAPPING DELIVERIES AT 15%
DURING THE PANDEMIC BENEFITED
THE SMALLEST BUSINESSES AND
CONSUMERS.
IT WAS GOOD FOR SEATTLEITES AND
REMAINS GOOD POLICY TODAY.
THIS SMALL BUSINESS
LEGISLATIONS MEANS THAT
RESTAURANTS WILL HAVE MORE
CONTROL OVER THE COST OF THEIR
PRODUCTS AND PEOPLE ORDERING
FOOD FROM HOME WILL NOT GET
PRICE GOUGED.
IT IS A COMMON SENSE PROTECTION
FOR LOCAL RESTAURANT TOURISTS
AND FOODIES ALIKE.
I'VE SEEN FROM RESTAURANTS IN
MY COMMUNITY THE NEED FOR THIS
LEGISLATION THAT HAS WORKED
DURING THE PANDEMIC AND THIS IS
THE TYPE OF LEGISLATION WE WANT
TO KEEP IN THE CITY AS WE
EMERGE FROM THE LAST TWO YEARS.
IT IS A BALANCED APPROACH, GOOD
GOVERNANCE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE BRINGING
THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE GO INTO
DISCUSSING THE AMENDMENTS?
ALL RIGHT.
SEEN NONE, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
MOVE?>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
AMENDMENT ONE FOR THE BILL
NUMBER -- 120379.
>> SECOND.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO -->> OR
I CAN SPEAK TO IT.
AFTER HEARING FROM PLATFORMS
AD RESTAURANTS, THIS IS A
BALANCED APPROACH TO MAKE OUR
LEGISLATIVE INTENT MORE CLEAR.
RESTAURANTS WERE AMONG THE
HARDEST HIT BUSINESSES DURING
THE PANDEMIC AND AS WE
CONTINUED TRANSITIONING OUT,
THIS IS PROTECTION I BELIEVE WE
NEED TO KEEP. THIS IN AMENDMENT
WOULD CLARIFY IN TECHNICAL WAYS
TO PIECES, ONE ABOUT DELIVERY
LOCATION AND SECOND ABOUT
REFUSAL OF SERVICE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYTHING TO ADD OR IS
THERE A WAY TO PUT THIS ON THE
SCREEN?
>> THIS IS KARINA BULL.
I'M HAPPY TO GO AHEAD AND PUT
THIS ON THE SCREEN AND I WILL
DO THAT NOW.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THIS?
THIS IS THE AMENDMENT.
THIS IS THE STATEMENT.
IT WOULD CLARIFY THE SCOPE AND
THE DEFINITIONS OF DELIVERY
SERVICES IN A FOOD OR BEVERAGE
ORDER TO INCLUDE PICKUP OR
DELIVERY TO ANY LOCATION WITHIN
SEATTLE CITY LIMITS.
RIGHT NOW IT SAYS TO ANY
LOCATION.
AND IT WOULD MAKE A DRAFTING
CORRECTION TO REMOVE REDUNDANT
LANGUAGE PROHIBITING THE
DELIVERY PLATFORMS FROM
REFUSING SERVICE TO RESTAURANTS
THAT CHOOSE THE 15% OPTION FOR
DELIVERY SERVICES. I WILL
SCROLL DOWN AND YOU CAN SEE
WHERE THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD
TAKE PLACE AND THE DEFINITION
OF DELIVERY SERVICES AND THE
DEFINITION OF FOOD OR BEVERAGE
ORDER.
AND THE ACTUAL FEE AND CHARGE
REQUIREMENTS.
PROHIBITING A PLATFORM FROM
CHARGING A RESTAURANT A FEE FOR
DELIVERY SERVICES TO ANY
LOCATION IN SEATTLE CITY
LIMITS.
THAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE FEE
REQUIREMENT AND THEN, REMOVING
THAT LANGUAGE ABOUT REFUSING
SERVICE AS IT IS DUPLICATIVE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I SEE THAT COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD HAD HER HAND UP.>>
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MY INTENTION IS TO SUPPORT THIS
AMENDMENT.
I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN WALKING ME THROUGH IT
LATE AFTERNOON YESTERDAY.
I HAD NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SEE
IT.
THE INSERTION OF THE WORD " ANY
" THE PLATFORM COULD NOT CARVE
OUT PARTS OF THE CITY TO NOT
SERVE AS A WAY TO AVOID FEES?
>> I WILL TRY ANOTHER WAY, AND
HOPEFULLY WILL MAKE SENSE.
IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO DELIVERY
ORDERS OUTSIDE OF SEATTLE.
THIS LEGISLATION COVERS
DELIVERY ORDERS TO ANY LOCATION
IN SEATTLE. IF A RESTAURANT IS
PURCHASING SERVICES THROUGH A
FOOD DELIVERY PLATFORM FOR
DELIVERY OUTSIDE OF SEATTLE,
THIS LEGISLATION WOULD NOT
COVER THAT.
IT IS THE SCOPE OF THE FEE
REQUIREMENT, AND THIS IS A
CHANCE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT
IS TO ANY LOCATION, NOT
LOCATION.
IT PROVIDES MORE REFINEMENT TO
THAT LANGUAGE.
>> VERY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
THE REMOVAL OF THE REFUSAL OF
SERVICE, THERE IS NO ACTUAL
POLICY ON THAT.
THAT IS JUST A CONCEPT THAT
THOSE WORDS WERE DUPLICATIVE?
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION OR MAYBE
JUST CLARIFICATION.
SO -- THIS DOES NOT CHANGE --
DOES THIS APPLY TO RESTAURANTS
OUTSIDE OF SEATTLE THAT ARE
DELIVERING TO CUSTOMERS INSIDE
SEATTLE?
IS THAT PART OF THE GEOGRAPHIC
FOCUS OF THIS AMENDMENT?>> MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS FOR
RESTAURANTS IN SEATTLE THAT ARE
PURCHASING DELIVERY SERVICES TO
ANY LOCATION IN SEATTLE.
SO THE CITY OF SEATTLE HAS
JURISDICTION OVER THE DELIVERY
PLATFORMS OFFERING SERVICES TO
RESTAURANTS IN SEATTLE.
>>.IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS?
THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN MOVED.
WITH THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT
ONE.
>> [ CALLING ROLE ] THREE IN
FAVOR CONLEN OPPOSED.
>> ALL RIGHT.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I KNOW
YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT.
>> I MOVE [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
AMENDMENT #2.
>> SECOND.
>> AMENDMENT #2 WOULD EXTEND A
PRACTICE THAT RESTAURANTS HAVE
BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO.
IT USED TO BE STANDARD CONTRACT
LANGUAGE BUT IT SAYS THAT THE
PLATFORMS CANNOT RESTRICT
PRICES THAT FOOD AND
RESTAURANTS CAN CHARGE ON THE
PLATFORM.
THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US BY
RESTAURANTS UNITED, AND IT IS
VERY SIMILAR TO LANGUAGE IN
SIMILAR POLICY IN SAN FRANCISCO
WHERE THEY PROHIBIT AT BASE
DELIVERY COMPANIES FROM
RESTRICTING OR SETTING
RESTAURANT PRICES.
LANGUAGETO BE STANDARD CONTRACT
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS?
I'M JUST GETTING MY MIND AROUND
BOTH OF THESE. IF THEY'RE NOT
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW,
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR NELSON.
>> YES.
>> THE BILL IS AMENDED AS
BEFORE.
ANY OTHER OPENING COMMENTS?
>> I'M EXCITED TO PASS THIS.
IT IS A BALANCED APPROACH AND
GOOD FOR BUSINESS.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN MAY HAVE
MORE TO SAY.
>> WHEN I THINK ABOUT POLICY, I
LEAD WITH THE IDEA OF --
AVOIDING UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES.
I WAS TRYING TO THINK ABOUT
WHAT COULD BE THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES. THIS LEGISLATION
RESTRICTS ONE PART OF WHAT
CUSTOMERS ULTIMATELY PAY, WHICH
IS REFLECTED ULTIMATELY IN THE
BILL.
IT IS THE PORTION THAT
RESTAURANTS PAY TO THE DELIVERY
SERVICE PLATFORMS.
IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE DELIVERY
SERVICE FEES.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS
WHETHER OR NOT TO RECOUP LOST
REVENUE AND WITH THE PLATFORMS
INCREASE THE DELIVERY FEE,
WHICH WOULD BE BAD FOR
CUSTOMERS AND FOR RESTAURANTS
IF BUSINESS GOES DOWN.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AND I
WAS CONSIDERING THAT.
BUT I HAVE TO WEIGH THE
POTENTIAL LONG-TERM
CONSEQUENCES AGAINST THE VERY
IMMEDIATE NEED THAT IS BEING
VOICED BY MY CONSTITUENTS.
THE RESTAURANTS AND AS WELL THE
PEOPLE THAT ENJOY THESE
RESTAURANTS AND DEPEND ON THEM
NOW, AND THAT IS HOW I GO ABOUT
TAKING ABOUT THIS LEGISLATION.
I APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE
LISTENING TO WHAT OUR
RESTAURANTS HAVE SAID.
I THINK THE SEATTLE -- I THINK
THE SEATTLE RESTAURANT ALLIANCE.
I WILL YIELD TO COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> REAL QUICK, I WANT TO THANK
THE SPONSORS FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD.
THIS WAS LANGUAGE IN MAYOR
DURKAN'S EXECUTIVE ORDER
SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND WE WORKED
TO MAKE SURE IT WAS INCLUDED IN
AN EMERGENCY ORDER.
I HAVE HAD A LOT OF ANXIETY,
PARTICULARLY AS WE PASS PAY UP
GOING AWAY AND THIS IS POLICY
THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 2
YEARS AND I AM APPRECIATIVE OF
THE SPONSORS FOR BRINGING IT
FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT IT
CONTINUES.
THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> I ALSO WANTED TO -- IN
ADDITION TO THANKING KARINA
BULL, I WANT TO THANK MY
LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT FOR HER
HARD WORK ON THIS AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANKING KATE HOFFMAN FROM
MY OFFICE.
>> THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK IN A
SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME FRAME.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HUSTLE
TO GET THIS BEFORE US.
WE WERE NERVOUS ABOUT -- THIS
WAS TIED TO THE CIVIL EMERGENCY.
WHAT WAS DRIVING THIS WAS THE
NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE
BEFORE THE CIVIL EMERGENCY WAS
OVER AND NOT HAVING A GAP.
I REALLY APPRECIATE -- WE DON'T
KNOW WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN, BUT
I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT
PEOPLE PUT INTO THIS.
OKAY.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS, WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT [
CALLING ROLE ]THE AMENDED BILL
PASSED.>> THREE IN FAVOR CONLEN
OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES IN THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT
IT PASSED WILL BE FORWARDED TO
CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 2nd,
2022, FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION.
>>CB120378 AN ORDINANCE RELATED
TO THE CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT;
AUTHORIZING THE GENERAL MANAGER
AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF
CITY LIGHT TO EXECUTE AN
OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE
AGREEMENT AND A
TELECOMMUNICATIONS AGREEMENT,
BOTH WITH PUBLIC UTILITY
DISTRICT NO.
1 OF SNOHOMISH COUNTY; AND
RATIFYING AND CONFIRMING
CERTAIN PRIOR ACTS.
>> I WILL SAY THAT THIS
LEGISLATION RENEWS AGREEMENTS
EXECUTED IN 1991, OBLIGATING
CITY LIGHT TO MAINTAIN NORTH
MOUNTAIN SUBSTATION AND
FACILITATE SERVICES UNTIL
AUGUST 1st.
THE MAIN DIFFERENCE WITH THE
UPDATED AGREEMENT IS THE
DISTRICT WILL BE DIRECTLY
BILLED FOR THAT WORK INSTEAD OF
AN ESTIMATE BASED ON PREVIOUS
YEARS COSTS.
PRESENTERS, I WELCOME YOU AND
INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING
US.
MY NAME IS DEBRA SMITH AND I'M
THE GENERAL MANAGER OF CITY
LIGHT.
WE ARE HERE TO TALK WITH YOU
ABOUT AN AGREEMENT.
I WILL LET MY COLLEAGUES
INTRODUCE THEMSELVES BEGINNING
WITH MY CANES.
>> I WILL DEFER TO MY SMART
PERSON WHO WILL PRESENT
TODAY.>> MICHAEL WATKINS.
>> GO FOR IT.
>> I SEE ANOTHER SMART PERSON
ON THIS.
>> BRIAN GOODNIGHT FROM COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF.
I AM FILLING IN FOR MY
COLLEAGUES.
>> OKAY.
I WILL LEAVE THE PRESENTATION
TO YOU.
>> TODAY WE WILL BE PRESENTING
A RENEWAL AGREEMENT WITH NORTH
MOUNTAIN SUBSTATION WHICH IS A
SNOHOMISH COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY
DISTRICT.
NORTH MOUNTAIN SUBSTATION IS 75
MILES FROM HERE. THE CUSTOMERS
ARE SERVED BY SNOHOMISH COUNTY
PUBLIC DISTRICT.
THE HISTORY OF THIS AGREEMENT
IS THAT SNOHOMISH COUNTY PUD
RECOGNIZED THEY HAD A GROWING
LOAD OF CUSTOMERS.
THE LEAST COST WAY FOR THEM TO
SERVE THAT WAS TO TAP INTO A
CITY LIGHT TRANSMISSION LINE
THAT EXISTED.
THE RELATIONSHIP WAS PROPOSED
THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE BULK
SERVICE POWERS IS [
INDISCERNIBLE ] THE SUBSTATION
BILL PAY FOR BY SNOHOMISH
COUNTY PUD WAS SIGNED IN 1991.
THE NEW AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN
RESTATED AND AMENDED IN THE 20
YEAR CONTRACT HAS A COST
RECOVERY MECHANISM DIFFERENT
AND PROVIDES MORE TRANSPARENCY
TO SNOPUD FOR WHAT THE COSTS
REALLY ARE . THIS CONTINUES [
INDISCERNIBLE ] FOR THE
OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COST
ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORTH
MOUNTAIN SUBSTATION.
>> THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL A
HOUSEKEEPING ITEM, BUT IT IS AN
AGREEMENT THAT HAS SERVED US
WELL AND IT SERVES THE
COMMUNITIES THAT SNOPUD SERVES.
WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE HARD WORK THAT
MIKE WATKINS HAS DONE BRINGING
THIS TO FRUITION.
A LOT OF BACK-AND-FORTH AND WE
HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP THAT
IS GOTTEN BETTER BECAUSE OF THE
WORK THAT MIKE HAS DONE.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
HOW MUCH OF A REIMBURSEMENT ARE
WE TALKING ABOUT?>> THE BIG
COST WAS WHEN THE SUBSTATION
WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT MONTHLY WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT $20,000.
A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.
SOME WE DO A LOT OF MAINTENANCE
. IN THE FUTURE IT WILL VARY BY
MONTH.
BUT ON AVERAGE IT WILL BE
BETWEEN $21,000-$25,000 PER
MONTH.
>> MY OTHER QUESTION IS WE HAVE
THREE DAMS ALONG THE SKAGIT
RIVER.
COVERING A LOT OF DISTANCE ARE
THERE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WITH
WHOM YOU HAVE SIMILAR
AGREEMENTS?
>> THIS IS THE ONLY RELATIONSHIP
WHERE WE MAINTAIN A SUBSTATION
FOR ANOTHER UTILITYTO SERVE
THEIR CUSTOMERS.
THEIR EASEMENTS ARE THERE BUT
NO CONNECTION FOR THE
TRANSMISSION LINES ALONG BETTER.
>> IT DOES SEEM TO MAKE SENSE.
THANK YOU.
COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS?
>> MY QUESTIONS ARE NOT ABOUT
THE AGREEMENT.
THIS IS NORTH MOUNTAIN
SUBSTATION.
ARE WE CHANGING THE
TRANSMISSION?
I USUALLY ASK THESE IN PRIVATE.
IS THE VOLTAGE, IS THAT
CORRECT, THE VOLTAGE COMING OUT
OF SKAGIT OR IS THIS SUBSTATION
TO PROVIDE DARRINGTON WITH
THEIR ELECTRICITY?>> THIS
SUBSTATION PROVIDES POWER
SERVICE TO SNOHOMISH.
WHAT HAPPENS IN SKAGIT IS ARE
GENERATORS STEP UP TO A VOLTAGE
AND THAT LINE IS TAPPED INTO A
SMALL SUBSTATION AND THERE IS A
STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER OWNED BY
SNOPUD.
>> ONE OF THE FOUR
TRANSMISSIONS COMING FROM
SKAGIT, THAT IS THE [
INDISCERNIBLE ] TO THIS NORTH
MOUNTAIN SUBSTATION.
>> IS A GREAT QUESTION.
THE CUSTOMER TRANSFORMS THE
POWER.>> SO WE HAVE FOUR LINES
OUT OF SKAGIT AND THIS TAPS
INTO IT.
>> I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS BUT I
WILL SAVE IT FOR ANOTHER DAY.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> I'M TO PREFACE MY QUESTIONS
AS ONE THAT I'M BEING A LITTLE
DENSE.
THE SLIDE SAYS COST RECOVERY
MECHANISM IS DIRECT BILLING TO
SNOPUD FOR WORK PERFORMED BY
CITY LIGHT.
I THOUGHT THE AGREEMENT IS TO
DIRECT THE COST -- TWO USED A
COST -- I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE
CHANGE.
IT SAYS THAT IS WHAT WE ARE
DOING NOW.
>> THE CURRENT AGREEMENT IS 1991
HAD A LOOK BACK FEATURE.
IT LOOKS OVER THE PAST TWO
YEARS AND LOOKS AT THE COST OF
CITY LIGHT OF OPERATION AND
MAINTENANCE OF NORTH MOUNTAIN,
AN THREE FAIRLY COMPLICATED
COUNTY MECHANISM HAS A LOADING
COST THAT WE'VE APPORTIONED TO
THAT PORTION OF THE SYSTEM, AND
THEN, SNOHOMISH RECEIVES THE
SAME MONTHLY BILL EVERY MONTH.
[ INDISCERNIBLE ] MORE
TRANSPARENCY ON A MONTHLY BASIS
ON WHAT WORK WAS DONE.
UNDER THE NEW AMENDED AGREEMENT
WE WILL TRACK WORK BY EMPLOYEE
AND PROVIDE SNOHOMISH A
DETAILED INVOICE MONTHLY ON
WHAT WORK WAS ACTUALLY
ACCOMPLISHED.
THAT IS THE CHANGE OF
RECOVERING THE COST AND IT
PROVIDES MORE TRANSPARENCY FOR
SNOHOMISH.
DOES THAT HELP?
>> A LITTLE BIT.
THE SECOND BULLET POINT ON THAT
SLIDE SAYS COST RECOVERY
MECHANISM IS NOW DIRECT BILLING
TO SNOPUD PERFORMED BY CITY
LIGHT.
COST RECOVERY MECHANISM WILL BE
UNDER THE NEW AGREEMENT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> FOR THESE KINDS OF
AGREEMENTS, I'M FOCUSED ON
TEMPORAL LANGUAGE TO ORIENT
WHAT IS CHANGING.
>> GOOD FEEDBACK FOR US FOR THE
FUTURE.
>> IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE THERE
WAS AN ESTIMATE BEFORE AND NOW
THERE IS MORE DETAILED TRACKING
OF THE ACTUAL LABOR COST.
>> AND MORE IMMEDIATE FOR THEM
TO UNDERSTAND.
IT PUTS THEM IN A SITUATION
WHERE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL
BE COMING RATHER THAN A TWO-
YEAR LOOK BACK.
>> OKAY.
ONE MOMENT.
I'M FINDING MY SCRIPT.
I MOVE TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BILL 120378.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO RECOMMEND
PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
ARE THERE FURTHER COMMENTS?
AND, BRIAN, I REALIZE I DID NOT
INVITE YOU TO ADD ANYTHING.
NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
THE BILL HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY
SOCIAL STAFF AND WE DON'T HAVE
ANY COMMENTS.>> WITH THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BILL
PASSES.
>> [ CALLING ROLE ]
>> THE MOTION CARRIES IT WILL BE
REFERRED TO CITY COUNCIL ON
AUGUST 2nd, 2022, FOR FINAL
RECOMMENDATION.
>> WITH THE CLERK PLEASE READ
THE FINAL ITEM.
RES 32061
>>A RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT;
ACKNOWLEDGING AND APPROVING THE
2022 INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN
AS CONFORMING WITH THE PUBLIC
POLICY OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY
OF SEATTLE AND THE REQUIREMENTS
OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON; AND
APPROVING THE INTEGRATED
RESOURCE PLAN FOR THE BIENNIUM
SEPTEMBER 2022 THROUGH AUGUST
2024.
FOR BRIEFING, PUBLIC HEARING,
AND DISCUSSION.
>> WHILE THE PRESENTERS ARE
GETTING SETTLED, SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT 2022 PLAN IS A LONG-TERM
PLAN TO MEET CUSTOMER NEEDS OF
THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
AS MANDATED IN THE REVISED CODE
OF WASHINGTON, CHAPTER 19, 280,
UTILITIES WITHIN THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON MUST DEVELOP
COMPREHENSIVE RESOURCE PLANS
THAT MEET THE CUSTOMER'S
ELECTRICITY NEEDS.
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT IS REQUIRED
TO FILE A FULL INTEGRATED
RESOURCE PLAN EVERY FOUR YEARS
WITH A PROGRESS REPORT EVERY
TWO YEARS IN THE INTERIM IN
BETWEEN FULL IRP UPDATES.
IRP'S ARE INTEGRATED RESOURCE
PLANS ARE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS
THAT EXPLAIN THE MIX OF
GENERATION AND DEMAND-SIDE
RESOURCES THAT THE UTILITY
PLANS TO USE TO MEET THE
CUSTOMER'S ELECTRICITY NEEDS
OVER THE PERIOD COVERED IN THE
PLAN WHEREAS PROGRESS REPORTS
REFLECT CHANGING CONDITIONS AND
DEVELOPMENTS IN THOSE INTERIM
PROTOCOLS.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT.
I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR OUR
PRESENTERS.
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND
TAKE IT AWAY.>> I AM DEBRA
SMITH.
THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING PIECE
OF WORK AND AS WE GO THROUGH
THIS, AND WE'VE HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PREVENT FEW OF
YOU ON THIS, THIS REPRESENTS A
TURNING POINT FOR SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT.
WE HAVE TWO OF OUR SMART,
BRIGHT, AMAZING UP COMERS AT
THE UTILITY TO PRESENT AND IT
IS A PURE COINCIDENCE THAT
THEIR NAMES ARE SAUL AND PAUL.
>> I'M HAPPY TO INTRODUCE
MYSELF AND THE REST OF THE TEAM.
ARE MAYBE LET THEM INTRODUCE
THEMSELVES.
MY NAME IS EMEKA ANYANWU.
AMONG OTHER THINGS I HAVE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WORK WE
DO AROUND OUR PORTFOLIO
STRATEGY, OUR SUPPLY PORTFOLIO
IN THIS WORK FALLS UNDER THAT.
>> I AM SAUL VILLAREAL [
INDISCERNIBLE ].
>> I AM ALSO PART OF THE
RESOURCE PLANNING DEPARTMENT
AND THE POWER MANAGEMENT
DIVISION.
>> GOOD MORNING, ANDREW STRONG,
INTERIM DIRECTOR OF POWER
MANAGEMENT AND THE DIRECTOR OF
ENGINEERING.
>> HE IS WEARING MANY HATS
RIGHT NOW.
ARE YOU READY TO GO?
>> I WILL GIVE SOME QUICK
INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS AND
THROAT TO THE TECHNICAL
EXPERTS.
THIS WORK REPRESENTS THOUSANDS
OF HOURS OF ANALYSIS AND STUDY
AS WELL AS DEEP ENGAGEMENT WITH
A GREAT PANEL THAT YOU WILL
HEAR ABOUT OF ADVISORS THAT WE
WORK WITH FROM OUTSIDE THE
UTILITY.
WE CONSIDER IT IN THE CONTEXT
OF ALL THE FACTORS WITHIN THE
WESTERN UNITED STATES AND
PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND IT IS
CONSISTENT WITH STATUTORY
OBLIGATIONS AS CHAIR NELSON
MEMBER MENTIONED AS WELL AS
POLICY PROVISIONS AND GUIDES
THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
WE ARE CONTINUING, OF COURSE.
THIS IS NOT A STATIC PROCESS,
EVEN AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS,
WE CONTINUE A DIALOGUE ABOUT
THE DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT OF
RESOURCES IN THE REGION,
CHANGING CUSTOMER BEHAVIOR AND
USAGE PATTERNS AS WELL AS THE
IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE THAT
WE ARE CONTENDING WITH.
WITHOUT I WILL GIVE IT TO PAUL
TO GET US STARTED.>> THANK YOU,
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WHY DON'T WE GET STARTED AND
LOOK AT THE AGENDA OF WHAT WE
WILL TALK ABOUT.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT --
>> CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE
CLOSER TO YOU?
IS THAT BETTER?
>> BRING IT IN.
>> WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT IS
AN INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN AND
WHY WE DO THESE PLANS.
THE IRP PROCESS AND THE 2022
IRP CONCLUSIONS.
TO GET STARTED, WHAT EXACTLY IS
AN INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN.
IT IS A BIANNUAL PLAN TO MEET
THE ELECTRIC POWER NEEDS FOR
THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
STAKEHOLDERS AND CUSTOMERS TO
SHARE THE VISION FOR THE FUTURE
POWER SUPPLY MIX.
THEY ARE UPDATED EVERY TWO YEARS
AND MUST BE APPROVED BY SEATTLE
CITY COUNCIL.
THEY ARE NOT REALLY INTENDED TO
REPRESENT SPECIFIC RESOURCE
ACTIONS BE TAKEN.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS A
DIRECTIONAL AND PROPORTIONAL
START TO RESOURCE ACTIONS FOR
CITY LIGHT AND WE WILL SEE THAT
IN THE CONCLUSION SECTION.
WHY DO WE CREATE INTEGRATIVE
RESOURCE PLANS?
IT IS A VITAL FEEDBACK LOOP AND
PLAN BETWEEN CUSTOMERS,
STAKEHOLDERS, GOVERNING BODIES,
AND CITY LIGHT.
WE NEED TO MEET PROJECTED LOADS
AND CLEAN ENERGY POLICIES.
IT IS A REVISED KOS A REVISED
CODE OF WASHINGTON STATE.
IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT ALL
WASHINGTON STATE UTILITIES THAT
HAVE OVER 25,000 CUSTOMERS ARE
REQUIRED TO PRODUCE AND IRP.
IT IS A TWO-YEAR PROCESS AND
THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
WE TRIED TO CONDENSE IT INTO
FOUR MAIN CATEGORIES.
THESE ARE THE EXISTING
RESOURCES.
WE LOOK AT THE LONG-TERM
CONTRACTS, POWER PURCHASE
AGREEMENT CONTRACTS, AND WE
HAVE OUR OWN HYDRO GENERATION.
THEN WE LOOK TO IDENTIFY THE
RESOURCE NEEDS.
WE START THAT WITH A LOADED
FORECAST.
THAT ESTIMATES THE DEMAND FOR
ELECTRICITY, AND THEN WE NEED
TO ACCOUNT FOR VARIABILITY AND
RISK AND WE USE THIS BY
DIFFERENT HISTORICAL CONDITIONS
FOR THE LOAD FORECAST.
IN ADDITION TO IDENTIFYING OUR
NEEDS WE LOOK AT POLICY NEEDS.
THE POINT HERE IS THE
IDENTIFICATION ACCOUNTS FOR
ENERGY AND THESE POLICY NEEDS.
THAT BRINGS US TO THE NEXT STEP
, WHICH IS RESOURCE OPTIONS.
WE LOOK AROUND THE STATE AND
THE REGION AND LOOK FOR
RESOURCES.
WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED, HOW
MUCH DO THEY COST, WHAT IS
THEIR GENERATION PROFILE, DO
THEY HAVE FEASIBLE TRANSMISSION
PATH -- AND THE DEMAND-SIDE OR
CUSTOMER SIDE.
THIS IS LIKE ENERGY
CONSERVATION MEMBERS OR SOLAR
PROGRAMS.
ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT
IS THE CLIMATE CHANGE SCENARIOS
. THE ELECTRIFICATION SCENARIO
WAS DERIVED FROM THE ASSESSMENT
THAT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
PRODUCED WITH THE ELECTRIC
POWER RESEARCH INSTITUTE.
THE CLIMATE CHANGE SCENARIOS WAS
PRODUCED WITH THE WASHINGTON
CLIMATE SCIENCE TEAM.
THOSE ARE TWO NEW SCENARIOS AND
WE ARE EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT
THOSE.
WE WANT TO DESIGN AND GO
THROUGH THE BEST MIX OF
RESOURCES TO MEET THE ENERGY
AND POLICY NEEDS.
I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE
LAST 3 TO 4 STEPS OF THE
PROCESS, WE HAVE A FEEDBACK
LOOP WITH THE IRP ADVISORY
EXTERNAL PANEL.
THESE ARE THE MEMBERS ON THIS
EXTERNAL ADVISORY PANEL.
IT IS A GREAT GROUP.
WE HAD NINE MEETINGS FOR THIS
CYCLE AND WE GAVE PRESENTATIONS
AND ASKED FOR FEEDBACK.
WE APPRECIATE IT THE
PARTICIPATION IN THE IRP
PROCESS, AND THIS ALLOWS OTHERS
TO HAVE A SAY IN THE PROCESS
AND NOT JUST CITY LIGHT.
>> THANK YOU FOR WALKING US
THROUGH THE PROCESS WE WILL
START WITH THE FIRST CATEGORY.
AS WE CAN SEE HERE, THE
PORTFOLIO HAS A LOT OF
RENEWABLES.
OVER 90% AND A LOT OF THAT IS
HYDRO.
THESE ARE PURCHASES THAT WE
DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE
NECESSARILY COMING FROM OR THEY
ARE NOT NECESSARILY GREENHOUSE
GAS NEUTRAL.
THE BPA CONTRACT ALSO HAS
SPECIFIED POWER.
HERE IS ANOTHER LOOK AT THE
EXISTING RESOURCES, BUT ON A
MONTHLY BASIS.
WE LOOK AT THE BLACK LINE AND
WE CAN SEE THAT WE ARE VERY
MUCH A WINTER PEAKING UTILITY.
IF WE LOOK AT THE SUMMER TIME,
SPECIFICALLY AUGUST, WE CAN SEE
ON AN UNEXPECTED BASIS WE HAVE
DEFICITS THAT WE FILL WITH
MARKET PURCHASES AND WE SEE
THAT IN JULY IT IS A LITTLE BIT
TIGHT.
AS PART OF THIS WORK WE LOOK
TODAY CLIMATE CHANGE SCENARIO
THAT SHOWS IN THE SUMMER THE
DEFICIT COULD HAVE MORE RISK.
IF WE LOOK AT THE WINTER TIME
WE CAN SEE THE GAPS CAN BECOME
A LITTLE BIT TIGHT AND AS PART
OF THE ELECTRIFICATION SCENARIO
WE IDENTIFIED A WINTER NEED
COULD BE GREATER AND TIGHTER.
>> ON THIS SLIDE, ARE WE
LOOKING AT WHAT THE DESIRE IS
FOR THE GREEN TO BE ALL THE WAY
TO THE BLACK LINE?
SO WE HAVE OUR OWN RESOURCES
MEETING THE LOAD?
IS THAT THE GOAL?
>> THAT IS PART OF IT.
WE IDENTIFY RESOURCE NEEDS.
DEFINITELY FOR THIS IRP WE LOOK
AT THE SUMMER NEED A BIT MORE
CLOSELY.
WE WILL DISCUSS POINTS ABOUT
THAT.>> BECAUSE WE ARE A HYDRO
UTILITY, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE
SEASONALITY TO THAT.
WE DON'T CONTROL THE WEATHER OR
THE TIMING TO WHEN EXTERNAL
PARTIES THAT CONTROL WATER
LEVELS RELEASE WATER.
WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT IS TO
HAVE A SAFETY CUSHION WITH THE
COMBINATION OF BPA.
THAT IS WHAT THIS PLAN DOES.
>> IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER,
ESPECIALLY BPA.
IT IS AN ALLOCATION OF ENERGY
WE ARE ENTITLED TO.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THE
BLUE, ORANGE, AND GREEN DIP
BELOW THE BLACK LOAD?>> WE HAVE
ACCESS TO SHORT-TERM CONTRACTS
AND THAT IS PART OF THE HEDGING
STRATEGY.
>> THIS DEMONSTRATES THE NEED
FOR DISPERSED ENERGY RESOURCES
>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT
DISTRIBUTING ENERGY RESOURCES,
WE THINK OF THEM AS RENEWABLES
AND DISTRIBUTED RESOURCES ARE
THE SAME.
I THINK WHEN SEATTLE LOOKS AT
OPPORTUNITIES TO FILL THAT GAP
AND YOU WILL SEE THIS IN THE
PORTFOLIO THAT WE PERCENT, AS
WE LOOK AT HOW TO DO THAT, IT
IS THROUGH THE USE OF
RENEWABLES AND DISTRIBUTIVE
RENEWABLES OVER THE FUTURE.
>> DIFFERENT RESOURCES LIKE
DEMAND RESPONSE ENERGY
EFFICIENCY.
IT ADDS A RESILIENCY FACTOR.
IN THIS CHANGING ENVIRONMENT
WHERE THERE ARE WILDFIRES ALL
OVER THE PLACE AND THINGS THAT
COULD DISTRACT THE TRANSMISSION
OF ENERGY, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR
US TO HAVE THAT FACTOR AS PART
OF OUR PORTFOLIO.
>> LONG BEFORE I CAME HERE,
SEATTLE MADE THE DECISION TO
MOVE FROM BEING A SLICE CUSTOMER
TO BEING A BLOCK CUSTOMER.
WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHAPE
THAT. IF WE WERE A SLICE
CUSTOMER, YOU WOULD SEE THE
BLUE PEAKING AT THE SAME TIME
AS THE GREEN.
THAT IS WHAT DROVE A VERY
SIMPLISTIC VIEW.
THAT IS WHAT DROVE THE DECISION.
OTHERWISE, WE HAVE MORE HYDRO
RISK.
UNDER THE BLOCK PRODUCT THAT WE
TAKE, WE ARE ABLE TO USE IT
MORE WHEN WATER LEVELS ARE
LOWER.
>> VERY HELPFUL.
>> NOW WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE
SECOND CATEGORY, WHICH ARE
RESOURCE NEEDS.
WE HAVE THREE ITEMS TO DISCUSS.
THE FIRST IS POLICY, WHICH IS
NOT, THAT REQUIRES A PERCENTAGE
OF THE LOAD TO COME FROM NON-
HYDRO RENEWABLE RESOURCES.
WE ALSO HAVE THE CLEAN ENERGY
TRANSFORMATION ACT.
AND WE HAVE OUR OWN RESOURCE
ADEQUACY. LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR
RESOURCE ADEQUACY NEEDS, WHICH
ARE PART OF THE PORTFOLIO NEEDS.
AS YOU CAN SEE WINTER AND
SUMMER NEEDS ARE GROWING THE
MAIN REASON FOR GROWTH IS NOT
CO-BECAUSE THE PACE OF THIS
COULD GROW ELECTRIFICATION
GROWS AT A FASTER RATE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT HAS RELIED ON THE MARKET
IN THE SUMMER.
FOR THIS IRP WE WILL LOOK AT
HOW TO ADDRESS THAT GAP.
SOME OF THE REASONS FOR THAT
THE RISK OF CLIMATE CHANGE, AND
THE HIGHER ATTRITION OF
RENEWABLES IN THE MARKET MAY
MAKE THAT ENERGY LESS RELIABLE
FOR US.
HERE WE WILL LOOK AT THE
PORTFOLIO NEEDS FROM CLEAN
ENERGY POLICIES.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE STATUS
OF DIFFERENT POLICIES.
FOR I-937 WE HAVE A SHORT-TERM
NEED FOR 2024 AND 2025, AND
THIS IS DUE TO COVID-19 LOADS.
AFTER THAT WE DON'T EXPECT
SIGNIFICANT NEEDS UNTIL EARLY
2030.
THEN WE HAVE THE CLEAN ENERGY
TRANSFORMATION ACT.
WE HAVE A CLEAN PORTFOLIO THAT
IS OVER 90%.
SEATTLE IS WELL-POSITIONED TO
MEET THIS POLICY.
NOW WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE
RESOURCE NEEDS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE THIRD
CATEGORY, WHICH IS HOW WE FILL
THOSE NEEDS.
WE LOOKED AT TWO TYPES OF
OPTIONS.
SUPPLY-SIDE AND DEMAND-SIDE.
WE LOOKED AT ENERGY EFFICIENCY
AND CUSTOMER SOLAR.
THESE ARE FOR SEATTLE AREA
CUSTOMERS.
FOR SUPPLY-SIDE WE LOOK AT
SOLAR RESOURCES AND WIND
RESOURCES.
ONE IS FORMED MONTANA WIND AND
THOSE RESOURCES ARE NOT
AVAILABLE UNTIL AFTER 2032.
>> WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN
CONVERSATIONS.
>> WE DESIGNED THE BEST MIX OF
RESOURCES. WE LOOK AT THE
RESOURCE OPTIONS AND WE
QUANTIFY HOW THIS RESOURCE
OPTIONS HELP TO MEET THE
REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS WHILE
MINIMIZING TOTAL PORTFOLIO
COSTS.
AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE
LOOK AT DIFFERENT PORTFOLIO
STRATEGIES SUCH AS TRANSMISSION
AVAILABILITY AND ALSO FEEDBACK
FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND WE
CAPTURE METRICS AND IDENTIFY
WHAT MIGHT BE A ROBUST OPTION
FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHT.
THE METRICS WE CAPTURE ACROSS
DIFFERENT CHOICES ARE COSTS,
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS,
TRANSMISSION RISK, CLIMATE
CHANGE, AND ELECTRIFICATION
PREPAREDNESS.
WE IDENTIFY WHICH PORTFOLIOS
HAVE THE MOST ROBUST
CHARACTERISTICS
>> HERE IS THE 2022 IRP
PORTFOLIO.
YOU WILL NOTICE A DIVERSE ARRAY
OF COLORS AND THAT IS BECAUSE
THERE IS DIVERSITY IN
RESOURCES, WHICH IS A GOOD
THING.
WE HAVE NEW WIND RESOURCES IN
ORANGE AND WE HAVE GREEN AS
ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS.
AND THIS IN THE GRAYBAR FOR
ENERGY PROJECTS.
AND THE YELLOW ONE IS FOR BIG
SOLAR PROJECTS AND THE SMALLER
ONES ARE DEMAND RESPONSE AND
DISTRIBUTED LOCAL SOLAR
PROGRAMS.
THE BIG TAKEAWAY IS THAT MOST
OF THESE RESOURCES ARE PLANNED
FOR THE NEXT 5 TO 8 YEARS.
IT IS EXPECTED THAT THEY WILL
BE IN PLACE BEFORE 2030.
>> PAUL, WONDERFUL.
THIS IS GREAT.
, ME GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE.
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE
AVERAGE MEGAWATTS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, I KNOW I
WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU
ALL AND IT IS HARD TO VISUALIZE
THIS INFORMATION..
WE ARE GAINING MEGAWATTS. THE
GREEN LINE IS ACTUALLY A
REDUCTION IN USE.
>> THESE ARE ALL RESOURCES THAT
WE REQUIRE.
WHAT THAT SLIDE -- AM I WRONG?
WHAT THAT SLIDE SHOULD SHOW YOU
IS AT THE VERY BEGINNING, I
THINK IT WILL BE A PERCENTAGE
TYPE OF APPROACH.
SO IF I NEED 100 MEGAWATTS, I
WILL ROUGHLY ACQUIRE 70
MEGAWATTS OF LAND AND 20
MEGAWATTS OF EFFICIENCY, AND
OVER TIME YOU SEE IT CHANGING.
THOSE OF THE INCREMENTAL
RESOURCES THAT WE NEED FROM
WHAT WE HAVE TODAY BY 2026,
2030, AND 2040.
>> THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, IS
THAT A REDUCTION?
>> BUT WE THINK OF IT AS A
GENERATION RESOURCE.
WE THINK OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY
AS A GENERATION PLAN THAT WE
HAVE PURCHASED.
THE CITY OF SEATTLE HAS
INVESTED HEAVILY IN A PLANT
THAT WE CALL ENERGY OF THE CITY.
ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
>> THE REDUCTION, AS DESCRIBED,
HAS THE NET EFFECT INCREASING
THE CAPACITY WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
THAT IS WHEN WE THINK OF IT AS
A RESOURCE.
AND WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE IT
BECAUSE THAT IS HOW WE GET IT.>>
ONE THING THE SLIDE IS INTENDED
TO SHOW, AND AN IMPORTANT TAKE
AWAY IS THAT ELECTRIFICATION
AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY WORK HAND-
IN-HAND.
THE PATH FOR THE CITY OF
SEATTLE AND COMMUNITIES WE
SERVE, THE PATH TO
ELECTRIFICATION IS ABOUT
ACQUIRING NEW RESOURCES, BUT A
BIG PART OF THAT IS TO INCREASE
THE AMOUNT OF DUE RESOURCE WE
REQUIRE THE LESS USE OF POWER.
THAT IS HOW WE WILL MAKE IT
WORK.
IT IS AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC
BECAUSE ELECTRIFICATION MEANS
WE ENCOURAGE CUSTOMERS TO USE
MORE POWER, WHICH IS DIFFERENT
THAN WE'VE EVER DONE.
AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE
ENCOURAGING THEM TO BE MORE
EFFICIENT CONSUMERS OF THE
PRODUCT THAT THEY NEED AND USE
AND THAT IS HOW WE DELIVER ON
ENERGY EFFICIENCY.>> THAT IS
FANTASTIC.
THIS IS NOT CUMULATIVE.
WHEN I LOOK AT T 40, IT IS NOT
BECAUSE OF 2026 AND 2030.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TARGETING
FOR THE DECADE?>> IT IS
CUMULATIVE.
THE MAIN POINT IS THERE'S NOT A
LOT OF CHANGE BETWEEN 2030 AND
2040.
>> ON EFFICIENCY, WE CANNOT
JUST SAY, OKAY, CONSERVE
ENERGY.
CITY LIGHT HAS FAIRLY ROBUST
ENERGY EFFICIENCY INCENTIVES
THAT YOU OFFER YOUR CUSTOMERS,
AND THOSE ARE NOT LIMITED TO
CUSTOMERS IN SEATTLE.
YOU ALSO OFFER THOSE TO YOUR
WHOLE CUSTOMER BASE.
>> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
THE INCENTIVES THAT WE OFFER
CHANGE OVER TIME AND THEY WILL
CERTAINLY CHANGE OVER THE
PERIOD OF TIME WE ARE LOOKING
AT BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT
THERE WHO ARE VERY SMART ABOUT
MOVING THE MARKET, WHICH IS
WHEN YOU ENCOURAGE CHANGES THAT
DON'T REQUIRE ACTION ON THE
PART OF CUSTOMERS.
THINK ABOUT ENERGY EFFICIENT
APPLIANCES.
OVER TIME THE INCENTIVES HAVE
DROPPED BECAUSE ALL OF THE
APPLIANCES ARE EFFICIENT.
THAT IS WHERE YOU MOVE THE
MARKET.
BUT WE ALSO PROVIDE INCENTIVES
TO CUSTOMERS TO TAKE SPECIFIC
ACTIONS.
AND THAT WILL CHANGE OVER TIME.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY WE NEED
MORE RESOURCES.
WE HAVE LONG-TERM CONTRACTS
THAT ARE GRADUALLY EXPIRING BY
2026.
WE ALSO HAVE CLEAN ENERGY
POLICIES FORCING COAL PLANTS
RETIREMENTS.
CLOSE TO 2000 MEGAWATTS OF COAL
PLANTS WILL BE RETIRING.
THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
INCREASE RESOURCE ADEQUACY
CONCERNS THAT CAN RESULT IN
LESS CERTAINTY THAT CITY LIGHT
CAN PURCHASE RELIABLE ENERGY
LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE
SLOW AUGUST TIMES.
ANOTHER REASON IS THE PACE OF
CLIMATE CHANGE.
IT IMPACTS NOT ONLY TEMPERATURES
BUT THE WATER CYCLE THAT CITY
LIGHT USES FOR ELECTRICITY.
AND WE KNOW ELECTRIFICATION IS
HAPPENING NOW AND IT IS
UNDERWAY NOT ONLY IN SEATTLE
BUT IN THE REST OF THE REGION.
AND LASTLY AND INCREASED
CUSTOMER PUSH FOR INCREASED
PORTFOLIO.
NOW WE CAN GO OVER THE
CONCLUSIONS.
THESE ARE CONCLUSIONS AS
COMPARED TO THE 2020 PROGRESS
REPORT.
SUMMER NEEDS ARE A CONCERN AND
HAS NOT CHANGED.
WINTER NEEDS ARE HIGHER AND
THAT IS DUE TO A MORE RECENT
LOAD FORECAST, WHICH
INCORPORATES ADDITIONAL
ELECTRIFICATION FROM NEW CODES
AND BUILDINGS AND FASTER
ELECTRIC VEHICLE GROWTH.
THIS IS THE FIRST FULL IRP
CALLING FOR NEW RESOURCES.
IT IS UP TO 400 MEGAWATTS OF
RENEWABLES COMING ONLINE BY
2026.
SOME RISK AND UNCERTAINTIES
WITH THE PACE OF ELECTRIFICATION
, NOT ONLY FOR CITY LIGHT, BUT
FOR THAT REGION.
WE THINK ABOUT THE INCREASED
ELECTRICITY USE AND THE IMPACT
ON TRANSMISSION AVAILABILITY TO
GET NEW PROJECTS HOME TO
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT TERRITORY.
THERE IS RISK AND UNCERTAINTY
WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, AND THEN
INTERMITTENT RESOURCE RELIANCE.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS SOLAR
AND WIND AND HOW THEY DEPEND ON
THE WEATHER TO PRODUCE
ELECTRICITY.
LASTLY, THE DEVELOPMENT OF
RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECTS.
WE HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT
TARIFF INVESTIGATIONS, SUPPLY
CHAIN COMPONENTS.
AND THAT IS A LAST RISK.
NEXT, AND THESE ARE A FEW
THINGS THAT CAME UP DURING THE
EXTERNAL PANEL FEED LOOP THAT
WE GO THROUGH.
THE FIRST THING THEY WANTED TO
TALK ABOUT WAS THE RISK OF
SUPPLY DEMAND RESOURCE
DEVELOPMENT.
CAN WE GET THE WIND OR THE SOLAR
ENERGY THAT WE WANT?
THE SECOND POINT IS TO ENSURE
THE EQUITY OUTCOMES ARE IN
PLACE FOR THE DEMAND OPTIONS,
IN OTHER WORDS, IN PLACE FOR
THOSE EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS,
DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS OR
CUSTOMER SOLAR PROGRAMS.
THIRD, WE WANT TO CONSIDER
DEVELOPMENT OF NEW ENERGY
TECHNOLOGIES.
THERE ARE MORE TECHNOLOGIES
BEING DEVELOPED AND CITY LIGHT
SHOULD BE MONITORING THESE
DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGIES,
ESPECIALLY AS ELECTRIFICATION
LOADS DEVELOP.
AND LASTLY, THE CITY SHOULD
TRANSITION TO ELECTRIFICATION
STRATEGICALLY.
THIS MEANS THAT ALL CITY OF
SEATTLE DEPARTMENTS SHOULD
STRIVE TO BE ELECTRIFYING
TOGETHER AND THAT THE SAME PACE
TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS.
THIS IS THE 2022 MILESTONES.
I WILL NOT GO THROUGH EVERY
SINGLE ITEM ON THIS SCREEN, BUT
WE WILL PICK OUT A FEW YEARS.
WE CAN START WITH 2022.
WE HAVE A DEMAND RESPONSE PILOT
PROGRAM THAT WE ARE WORKING ON
ANIMAL KICKOFF IN EARLY 2023.
WE ALSO HAVE A TIME OF USE RATE
PROGRAM AND EARLIER THIS YEAR
WE DELIVERED THE CLEAN ENERGY
IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND THIS
WAS THE FIRST PLANNING DOCUMENT
THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE
WASHINGTON STATE DEPARTMENT OF
COMMERCE AS PART OF THE CLEAN
ENERGY TRANSFORMATION ACT.
NOW TO 2024.
WE WILL SUBMIT AN IRP PROGRESS
REPORT.
WE ARE DOING A FULL IRP AND DO
AN IRP PROGRESS REPORT.
IN 2026 ANOTHER FULL ANALYSIS.
THERE WILL BE OTHER FULL SETS
OF ANALYSES AND DOCUMENTS
RELEASED THEN.
WE WILL HAVE A FULL
CONSERVATION ASSESSMENT. WE
HAVE THE FULL STRATEGIC PLAN TO
KICKOFF AND WE WILL DO ANOTHER
CLEAN ENERGY IMPLEMENTATION
PLAN.
FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO US.
I THINK NOW WOULD BE A GOOD
TIME TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> I THINK I WILL WAIT UNTIL
AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THIS
TODAY.
THE VOTE WILL BE NEXT WEEK.
>> CAN YOU PLEASE PUT THE LAST
SLIDE UP AGAIN.
>> THE LAST SLIDE, IS THAT THE
TABLE THAT EXPLAINS --
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
TOUCHED ON THAT.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPORTIONALITY
OF THE RESOURCE ACQUISITIONS IN
THE OTHER CHART WE SAW, THIS
ONE IS PERHAPS, DEPENDING ON
HOW YOU LIKE TO LOOK AT THINGS,
THIS IS EASIER.
YOU COULD SUM UP THOSE AT THE
BOTTOM AND YOU COULD LOOK
PROPORTIONATELY.
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
FOR EACH OF THESE RESOURCES.
OVER THIS PERIOD THAT INCLUDES
UP TO 400 ADDITIONAL MEGAWATTS
IN POWER, YOU COULD ASSUME THAT
THE GOAL WOULD BE TO ACQUIRE
THOSE RESOURCES IN THE
PROPORTION THAT YOU SEE ROUGHLY
ABOVE.
>> TO ADD SOME CONTEXT TO THIS,
PART OF WHAT GOES ON IS WE ARE
ACTIVELY MONITORING AND
CONVERSATIONS WITH RESOURCE
PROVIDERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE PREPARED TO ACQUIRE THE
RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO MEET
THESE PROPORTIONS AS DESCRIBED
ON THE CHART.
>> IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE 400,
THAT IS THE MAIN THING I WANT
YOU TO CONNECT BACK.
CUSTOMER SOLAR, DEMAND RESPONSE,
WE ARE JUST GETTING OUR FEET
WET IN THOSE AREAS.
THOSE RESULTS IN SHIFTING THE
LOAD OR SHIFTING FROM ONE TIME
TO ANOTHER.
AND THEN ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS A
REDUCTION THAT REDUCES THE NEED
TO ACQUIRE RESOURCES.
WHEN WE LOOK AT ACQUIRING THE
400 MEGAWATTS, THE RATIO IS
APPROXIMATELY WHAT YOU SEE.
AS THESE OTHER RESOURCES BECOME
MORE MATURE AND WE CAN LEAN
INTO THEM, THE NUMBERS WILL
INCREASE.
>> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER
IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS, I WILL MOVE
INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AS PRESIDING OFFICER I'M
OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
THIS RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE
CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT
ACKNOWLEDGING AND APPROVING THE
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN AS
CONFORMING WITH THE PUBLIC
POLICY OBJECTIVES AND APPROVING
THE INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN
FOR THE BIENNIUM THROUGH AUGUST
2024.
THE ONLINE REGISTRATION FORM
HAS BEEN UP FOR A WHILE.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO ONE HAS
SIGNED UP.
IS THAT STILL CORRECT?>> THERE
ARE NO ONLINE -- YES.>> WE ONLY
HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR
THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ALEX
ZIMMERMAN.
>> MY NAME IS ALEX ZIMMERMAN.
I SEE THIS PLAN MADE BY CITY
LIGHT, WE PAY $400,000 PER YEAR.
LAST YEAR I SEE A SIMILAR PLAN
MADE BY THE SAME MANAGER WHO WE
PAY $400,000 A YEAR AND
APPROVED BY NINE CLOWN.
THE YEAR BEFORE I SEE SIMILAR
PLAN MADE BY MANAGER WE PAY
$400,000 A YEAR APPROVED NINE
CLOWN WHO WE PAY HUNDRED
$50,000 YEAR.
BEFORE I SEE SIMILAR PLAN [
INDISCERNIBLE ] AND APPROVED BY
COUNCIL WHO MAKE HUNDRED AND
$50,000.
MY QUESTION NOW IS WHY LIGHTS
GO BAD FOR 750,000 PEOPLE.
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME.
WHAT IS GOING ON MAKE LIFE
MISERABLE [ INDISCERNIBLE ]
MAKE LIFE BETTER.
>> WE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO MR.
ZIMMERMAN'S PUBLIC COMMENTS
USUALLY STARTING ADDRESSING US
AS FASCISTS.
I WANT TO LET THE AUDIENCE KNOW
THAT WE DO SAY THAT THAT KIND
OF LANGUAGE IS NOT ALLOWED AND
WE TRY TO STRESS CIVILITY IN
CHAMBERS.
WE ALSO HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON
HOW WE CAN RESTRICT FREE SPEECH.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR PORTFOLIO
, WIND AND SOLAR ARE THE ONLY
SOURCES OF NON-HYDRO RENEWABLES
IN HERE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IN THE
FUTURE WERE NOT PRECLUDED FROM
INCORPORATING OTHER SOURCES.
I'M ALWAYS PLUGGING BIOENERGY,
WHICH IS BIOSOLIDS LIKE SPENT
GRAIN.
AND IT IS MADE INTO METHANE AND
CONVERTED INTO ELECTRICITY AND
COULD EVENTUALLY BE SIGNIFICANT
ENOUGH TO ADD TO THE GRID.
DO YOU EVER THINK ABOUT [
INDISCERNIBLE ]
>> WE MONITOR EMERGING
TECHNOLOGY LIKE OFFSHORE WIND.
>> ANOTHER SOURCES ALL THAT
WATER.>> WE WERE WORKING ON
WAVE ENERGY AND THERE IS A LOT
OF ACTIVITY HAPPENING AROUND
WIND IN OREGON.
THEY ALSO PRESENT OPPORTUNITIES
FOR WASHINGTON STATE.>> A
COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE WORTH
NOTING IS WE DO HAVE SOME
EXPERIENCE WITH THE COLUMBIA
RIDGE PROJECT THAT IS PART OF
THE PORTFOLIO AND WE ALSO HAVE
A CONTRACT WITH THE KING COUNTY
ON THEIR SEWAGE PLANT AS WELL
FOR ENERGY THERE.
WE DO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH
THAT AND INTEGRATING IT INTO
THE PORTFOLIO.
WE DON'T PRECLUDE THOSE
TECHNOLOGIES.
THINGS LIKE HYBRID, INTERMITTENT
WIND STORAGE, THOSE ARE THINGS
THAT COULD BE PART OF THE
FUTURE.
ALL OF THOSE ARE IN PLAY FOR US.
>> MY OTHER QUESTION IS YOU
MADE A POINT OF EMPHASIZING THE
FACT THAT THIS PLAN INTEGRATES
ARE GROWING ELECTRIFICATION
NEEDS AND CLIMATE CHANGE AND
THE IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE TO
PERHAPS -- IN WAYS WE CANNOT
ACCOUNT FOR YOU.
WAS THAT NOT INCLUDED IN THE
AUTHORIZING LEGISLATION, BUT THE
MANDATING RESOURCE PLANS AND
YOU DID IT ON YOUR OWN?>> THIS
IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THIS TEAM, WHICH HAS
WEATHERED THROUGH A LOT OF
DIFFERENT THINGS.
MR. STRONG STEPPED IN IN A
LEADERSHIP ROLE.
WE HAVE THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE
WHO HAVE STEPPED IN TO PULL
THIS TOGETHER.
THESE ROCKSTARS TO MY LEFT HAVE
DONE REMARKABLE WORK AND
RECEIVED INCREDIBLE FEEDBACK
FROM THE ADVISORY PANEL. YOU
SAW SOME OF THEIR CREDENTIALS.
AND HOW FORWARD THINKING THE
WORK THEY HAVE DONE ON THE
CLIMATE CHANGE PORTFOLIO IS IN
THE ELECTRIFICATION PORTFOLIO
THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.
I THINK IT IS WORTH
ACKNOWLEDGING HOW MUCH THIS IS
SECTOR LEADING WORK.
>> THANK YOU FOR EMPHASIZING
THAT.
CITY LIGHT DOES STAND APART,
AND THIS IS A PUBLICLY OWNED
UTILITY.
>> THE NOTION OF THE FRAMEWORK
AND PROPORTIONALITY OF THE
RESOURCES THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE
OVERTIME, IT WAS AN INDICATION
OF ITS GREATER AGILITY AND
FLEXIBILITY.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW CLIMATE
CHANGE WILL ROLLOUT.
RATHER THAN CALLING FOR
SPECIFIC RESEARCH ACQUISITIONS,
THE PROPORTIONALITY IS
IMPORTANT IN AN UNCERTAIN
FUTURE.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD,
BRIAN?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT
THIS TIME.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD?
COUNT A STRESS?
WELL, I WOULD REMIND PEOPLE
THAT THIS IS THE FIRST
DISCUSSION, AND WE WILL TAKE
THIS UP AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON
AUGUST 10th.
WE ARE ON A TIME LINE.
COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH THE
DEADLINE?
>> I CAN TAKE THAT.
THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT WE
HAVE FOR THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON REQUIRES THAT WE
HAVE AN APPROVED IRP BY THE
GOVERNING BODY, WHICH IS CITY
COUNCIL BY THE BEGINNING OF
2023.
WHAT THEY REQUIRE IS WE SUBMIT
THAT PLAN IN ADVANCE, FOUR
MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
THAT PUTS US TO SEPTEMBER 1st.
WHAT IS INTENDED IS WE HAVE
THIS APPROVED PLAN THAT WE
SUBMIT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
COMMERCE BY SEPTEMBER 1st.
THAT IS THE TIME LINE OF AUGUST
10th AND IT GIVES US TIME FOR
THE FILING PERIOD AND ANY
COMMENTS.
>> I WILL NOT BE AT ATTENDANCE
AND I'M SIGNALING I SUPPORT AND
WOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT.
>> AND THEN THERE WILL BE THE
FULL COUNCIL VOTE, ASSUMING IT
IS UNANIMOUS, COMING OUT OF
COMMITTEE.
IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
I APPRECIATE YOU WALKING US
THROUGH THIS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT
DISCUSSION AND A VOTE OUT OF
COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 10th.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
ON THESE IMPORTANT PIECES OF
WORK.
>> THIS CONCLUDES THE JULY 27th
MEETING OF THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY AND
CITY LIGHT COMMITTEE, ASSUMING
THERE ARE NO OTHER THINGS.
IT IS 11:43, AND THIS MEETING
IS ADJOURNED.