>> RECORDING.
>>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE MAY 10, 2022, MEETING OF
THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND HUMAN
SERVICES COMMITTEE WILL COME TO
ORDER.
IT'S 9:30 AIM.
I'M LISA HERBOLD, CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> PRESENT.
PEDERSEN.
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR HERBOLD.
>> PRESENT.
>> FIVE PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE WILL HEAR THE FIRST
QUARTERLY RESPONSE FROM THE
EXECUTIVE TO THE COUNCIL ON OUR
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT
REQUESTING WORK TO HELP
IDENTIFY POTENTIAL NONSWORN
OFFICER RESPONSE FOR 911 CALL
TYPES IDENTIFIED FOR THE
NATIONAL INSTITUTION OF
CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM, AND
CATEGORIZED AS APPROPRIATE FOR
CIVILIAN RESPONSE, AND THEN
RESOLUTION 32050 SPONSORED BY
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
UP FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE.
THIRD WE WILL HEAR COUNCIL BILL
120320 I'M SPONSORING FOR
FUNDING FOR HARD-TO-FILL CITY
JOBS AND ALSO FUNDING FOR A
RECRUITER FOR SPD.
THAT WILL ALSO BE UP FOR
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE VOTE.
WITH THAT WE WILL APPROVE OUR
AGENDA FOR THE COMMITTEE
MEETING TODAY.
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE
COMMITTEE MEETING WILL BE
APPROVED.
SEEING AND HEARING NO
OBJECTION, TODAY'S AGENDA IS
APPROVED.
AT THIS TIME WE WILL TRANSITION
INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WILL MODERATE IN THE
FOLLOWING MATTER.
BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS
SIGNED UP TO TESTIFY THIS
MORNING, EACH WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I WILL CALL ON THEM BY NAME IN
THE ORDER REGISTERED ON THE
COUNCIL WEBSITE.
IF YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED TO
SPEAK, BUT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO
SO, YOU CAN SIGN UP ON THE
COUNCIL WEBSITE.
THE LINK IS ALSO LISTED ON
TODAY'S AGENDA.
ONCE I CALL A SPEAKER'S NAME,
YOU WILL HEAR A PROMPT.
ONCE YOU HAVE HEARD THE PROMPT,
PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF.
PLEASE BEGIN SPEAKING BY
STATING YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM
THAT YOU ARE ADDRESSING.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A TIME WHEN
TEN SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THE
ALLOTTED TIME.
ONCE THE SPEAKER HEARS THE
CHIME, WE ASK YOU TO BEGIN TO
WRAP UP YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IF SPEAKERS DO NOT END THE
PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF
THE ALLOTTED TIME, THE MIC WILL
BE MUTED AFTER TEN SECONDS TO
ALLOW US TO HEAR FROM THE NEXT
SPEAKER.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED YOUR
COMMENT, PLEASE DISCONNECT FROM
THE LINE.
IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO
LISTEN, PLEASE DO SO WITH THE
OPTIONS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THERE'S 13 PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
AGAIN, I WILL BE READING FOLKS'
NAMES INTO THE AGENDA OR INTO
THE RECORD AT A TIME.
HOWARD FOLLOWED BY McKENZIE
CHASE.
>> GOOD MORNING, HOWARD GAIL
COMMENTING ON THE FAILED POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM.
SUNDAY WAS THE THIRD
ANNIVERSARY OF THE MURDER OF
RYAN SMITH, AND SATURDAY IS THE
SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF TERRY
CABER.
BOTH EXPERIENCED A SEVERE
MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS YIELDING
ONLY A KNIFE.
BOTH WERE MURDERED WITHIN
SECONDS OF THE POLICE
ENCOUNTERING THEM.
BOTH WERE DEEMED APPROPRIATE
DESPITE THE POLICE NOT
FOLLOWING THEIR OWN POLICIES.
IN WASHINGTON STATE, POLICE
KILL AT OVER THREE TIMES RATE
OF
CANADA AND OVER 30 TIMES THE
RATE OF THE UNITED KINGDOM.
IN WASHINGTON STATE WE REQUIRE
AROUND 720 HOURS OF TRAINING
BEFORE A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE
CAN WITH NO SKILLS OR
EXPERIENCE CARRY A BADGE AND
GUN AND TAKE SOMEONE'S LIFE.
IN FINLAND, THERE'S THE
REQUIREMENT OF 5500 HOURS OF
TRAINING.
ENGLAND REQUIRES OVER 2200
HOURS AND A COLLEGE-LEVEL
DEGREE.
THE PROBLEM WITH ATTRACTING NEW
POLICE RECRUITS AND
FUNDAMENTALLY DUE TO THE
DYSFUNCTIONAL POLICE CULTURE
THAT REMAINS UNCHANGED IN OVER
A CENTURY.
THE CULTURE FUELED BY
OUTRAGEOUS SALARIES, REQUIRING
NO SKILLS, LITTLE TRAINING, AND
LITTLE TO NO ACCOUNTABILITY.
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT
PEOPLE WILL CHOOSE TO WORK IN
PLACES WHERE THE POLITICIANS
DON'T MAKE A SHOW OVER
ACCOUNTABILITY?
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
HAVE GIVEN US A SYSTEM TO SERVE
NO ONE'S NEEDS.
THE FOLKS WITH THE HARMS DONE
BY POLICE WHILE SCARING OFF
POTENTIAL RECRUITS WITH EMPTY
WORDS.
TODAY, INSTEAD OF DISCUSSING
MAKING POLICE ACCOUNTABLE, THE
COMMITTEE WILL TALK ABOUT --
UNDER A FAILED OPERATING
SYSTEM.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER McKENZIE
CASE FOLLOWED BY RESA MIRISHI.
McKENZIE?
>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS
McKENZIE CHASE HERE FOR THE
SEATTLE METROPOLITAN CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE.
I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF 32050 TO
HELP HIRE POLICE OFFICERS AND
TO ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO
ACCELERATE THE WORK TO BRING
ALTERNATIVE EMERGENCY RESPONSES
ONLINE.
VOTERS IN OUR RECENT PUBLIC
POLL OVERWHELMINGLY CITED
PUBLIC SAFETY AS THE TOP TWO
ISSUES THEY ARE FRUSTRATED
ABOUT.
THEY ALSO FAVOR THE ALL-OF-THE-
ABOVE APPROACH WITH POLICE
REFORM AND THE RIGHT NUMBER OF
OFFICERS.
WE APPLAUD COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON'S RESOLUTION FOR WORKING
TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE THREE
CRITICAL AREAS.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT NOT EVERY
EMERGENCY IS BEST ADDRESSED BY
AN ARMED, SWORN OFFICER.
PLEASE WORK TO IMPLEMENT AN
ALTERNATIVE.
WE APPRECIATE HERBOLD AND
NELSON'S WORK ON THIS.
WE ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO
ADVANCE ALL THE ISSUES VOTERS
ARE INTERESTED IN.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS RESA,
FOLLOWED BY COCO WEBER.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I'M RESA, THE DIRECTOR OF
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT KILMORE
REALTY COOPERATIONS.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT RESOLUTION
32050.
IT WAS INTENDED TO APPROVE
SEPARATE LEGISLATION TO ALLOW
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO USE
PART OF THE UNSPENT FUNDS IN
THE EXISTING BUDGET TO OFFER
APPROPRIATE AND ATTRACTIVE
STAFFING INCENTIVES.
IT WILL ALLOW US TO ATTRACT
ADDITIONALLY TRAINED OFFICERS
THAT REFLECT THE DIVERSE
COMMUNITY OF OUR CITY.
MOST FOLKS KNOW SEATTLE HAS
LOST 300 OFFICERS OVER THE LAST
YEAR.
RETAIL CRIME IS COSTING SMALL
AND LARGE RETAILERS MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN LOST MERCHANDISE AND
SECURITY EXPENSES.
BUSINESSES, PROPERTY OWNERS,
AND CULTURAL VENUES HAVE TO
HIRE OFFDUTY OFFICERS AT
SIGNIFICANT COST, AND WORKERS
ARE FACES THREATS TO THEIR
SAFETY.
WE HAVE TO ALLOW THE BUSINESSES
TO OPERATE SUCCESSFULLY
ENTURING SAFETY AND INVENTORY.
THIS WILL NOT IMPROVE UNTIL THE
CRISIS IS ADDRESSED.
WE NEED PEOPLE TO FEEL SAFE ON
THE STREETS BECAUSE IT'S
ESSENTIAL TO BRINGING
BUSINESSES BACK TO THE OFFICE.
THIS, IN TURN, IS VITAL TO
SUPPORTING THE SMALL BUSINESSES
THAT GIVE SEATTLE ITS
CHARACTER.
PASSING THIS RESOLUTION WOULD
BE AN IMPORTANT SIGNAL THAT OUR
LEADERSHIP IS COMMITTED TO
PUBLIC SAFETY IN SEATTLE, IN
LOCK STEP WITH THE VOTER
PREFERENCES.
THE LATEST POLL FROM THE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SHOWS THAT
46% OF 700 SEATTLE VOTERS CITED
PUBLIC SAFETY AS ONE OF THE TOP
TWO ISSUES THEY ARE MOST
FRUSTRATED ABOUT.
WE ALSO URGE THE COUNCIL TO
WORK IN LOCK STEP WITH THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE OBVIOUS
IMPROVING AND IMPLEMENTING
LEGISLATION BY THE COUNCIL
RESOLUTION 32050 TO RECTIFY THE
EXITUS OF OFFICERS IN SEATTLE.
THE MAYOR HAS EXPRESSED
INTEREST IN ADDRESSING THE
CHALLENGES FOR THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND COOPERATION IS A
PREREQUISITE FOR THE DURABLE
SOLUTIONS TO THE IMPORTANT
ISSUE AS OUR --
>> THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS COCO WEBER.
COCO FOLLOWED BY PETER CONDON.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'M HERE AS AN EDUCATOR AND
SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IMPACTED
BY THE POLICE VIOLENCE WHILE
PROTESTING THE POLICE VIOLENT
IN THE CITY, AND ALSO A FORMER
CLINICIAN AND REENTRY CASE
MANAGER.
I USED TO PICK FOLKS UP FROM
JAIL AND WORKED AT AN
ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM PROVIDING
THERAPEUTIC ALTERNATIVES TO
INCARCERATION.
I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THAT NOT
ONLY DOES THE PLACE I WORKED
WITH HAD TO QUALIFY FOR THE
PROGRAM, INCARCERATED THREE
TIMES IN COUNTY JAIL, AND THEY
WERE ALSO DIAGNOSED WITH MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES AS WELL AS
SUBSTANCE DEPENDENCE AND ABUSE
ISSUES.
THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SUCCESSFUL
IN OUR PROGRAM, THEY WERE SET
UP WITH HOUSING AND MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT AND CARE AND
PRIMARY CARE AND WERE IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
THE JAIL TIME IS NOT HAVE ANY
IMPACT ON WHETHER OR NOT FOLKS
WHO WERE EXPERIENCING THE
INCARCERATION IN OUR CITY WERE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF
THAT CYCLE.
WE JUST SAW THE CITY ATTORNEY
DISMISS OVER 2,000 MISDEMEANOR
CRIMES, SHOWING SPENDING A LOT
OF MONEY ON POLICE, RESPONDING
TO CRIMES, SPENDING MONEY ON
JAIL TIME AND DAYS IN COURT IS
A COMPLETE WASTE OF OUR CITY
MONEY TO SOLVE OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE THE MOST MARGINALIZED IN
OUR COMMUNITY NOT HAVING THE
RESOURCES TO SURVIVE.
IF WE WANT A SAFER CITY WE NEED
TO REALLOCATE FUNDING OUT OF
THE JAIL AND OUT OF SPD AND
ACTUALLY GET THE MONEY TO
CREATE TRUE INFRASTRUCTURE,
COMMUNITY SAFETY, AND MENTAL
HEALTH SUPPORT, CARE, AND
HOUSING.
I ASK YOU TO NOT SUPPORT THIS
WASTE OF OUR FUNDING AND
ACTUALLY PUT THAT MONEY TOWARDS
THE COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU, COCO.
MENT NEXT SPEAKER IS PETER,
FOLLOWED BY LATONIA.
PETER?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR HERBOLD.
I'M IN DISTRICT SIX, AND I'M
AGAINST GIVING THE SPD ANY
MONEY FOR NEW COPS, A HIRING
SENTENCE, OR ADVERTISING
CAMPAIGN.
I HAVE BEEN HELPING NEIGHBORS
ALL MORNING AT WOODLAWN PARK.
THE SPD IS HERE FORCING
PEOPLE'S DISPLACEMENT BECAUSE
THERE'S A HOUSING CRISIS WITH
LEADERSHIP TO DO WHATEVER IT
TAKES TO MAKE UNHOUSED
RESIDENTS LESS VISIBLE.
THEY RESPOND TO AND ESCALATE
THE SITUATIONS WITH DEADLY
EFFECT,
KILLING AMONG OTHERS CHARLENE
LYLE AND JOHN T. WILLIAMS.
THEIR ACTIONS TODAY COULD KILL
SOMEONE NEW.
DOZENS OF VOLUNTEERS, MYSELF,
INCLUDED, ARE HERE PROVIDING
CARE TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
BRINGING OUTREACH AND BRINGING
PEOPLE INSIDE WOULD BE EASIER
IF THE FUNDING WERE AVAILABLE
FOR THE HOUSING SUPPORT
SERVICES INSTEAD OF SPD.
THE LEGISLATION YOU SHOULD
CONSIDERATION TODAY WOULD MOVE
US BACKWARDS.
I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT THE IDEA
OF MOVING NONVIOLENT RESPONSE
OUT OF THE SPD IS NOT SOMETHING
WE HAVE FORGOTTEN, AND KEEPING
THOSE RESPONDERS WITHIN SPD,
EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE
CIVILIANIZED WOULD BE A
MISTAKE.
AS SOON AS YOU ARE NOT LOOKING,
THEY WILL JUST MOVE OFFICERS TO
MORE DEADLY POSITIONS AS THEY
DID WITH THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE
GROUP AND TAKE MORE OFFICERS
AWAY FROM THE SERVICES THAT ARE
ACTUALLY HELPING PEOPLE.
THAT MONEY NEEDS TO BE OUT OF
THE SPD ENTIRELY, NOT A
CIVILIANIZED RESPONSE, A
NONPOLICE RESPONSE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LATONYA.
SHOWING UP AS NONPRESENT.
WE WILL GO DOWN TO TRAYVONA
THOMPSON-WYLIE.
FOLLOWED BY I BELIEVE AMELIANO.
THANK YOU.
>> HELLO, I'M TREY, A RESIDENT
OF SEATTLE DISTRICT TWO.
I'M URGING Y'ALL NOT TO PASS
THE RESOLUTION FOR HIRING GOING
FOR SPD OR HERBOLD'S
LEGISLATION FOR NEW OFFICERS
AND HIRES AND RECRUITERS.
IT'S ROOTED IN ANTIBLACKISM AND
RACISM.
I'M A BLACK WOMAN AND MY FAMILY
HAS BEEN IN SEATTLE FOR THREE
GENERATIONS.
I HAVE BEEN DEMANDING FOR OUR
CITY TO INVEST IN THE
COMMUNITY, AND WHY SHOULD WE
CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE
SYSTEM, FILLED WITH THE LACK OF
ACCOUNTABILITY.
RESIDENTS ARE DISPLACED, UNABLE
TO AFFORD CHILD CARE, AND Y'ALL
KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE COPS
LEAVING THE FORCE, BUT NO ONE
IS TALKING ABOUT THE FEAR THEY
PUT IN BLACK FOLKS LIKE MYSELF.
I HAVE SEEN THEM BEAT
RESIDENTS, AND WE ARE RUNNING
OUT OF OPTIONS FOR BLACK FOLKS
LIKE ME.
IT APPEARS MANY OF THE WHITE
RESIDENTS CALLING IN ASKING FOR
Y'ALL TO INVEST TRULY DON'T
CARE.
THE BONUSES WASTE VALUABLE
RESOURCES.
SALARY HAS NOT BEEN A PRIMARY
REASON GIVEN FOR OFFICERS
LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT.
SOME OF Y'ALL ON THE CITY
COUNCIL CLAIM TO CARE ABOUT
YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU CAN EXPAND
THE FUNDING FOR GRANTS LIKE
CREATIVE JUSTICE, THE ACTION
COALITION, AND COMMUNITY
PASSAGEWAYS.
RESEARCH SHOWS EVERY ADDITIONAL
TEN NONPROFITS IN THE CITY
LEADS TO A 12% REDUCTION IN
HOMICIDE RATES AND 10%
REDUCTION IN VIOLENT CRIME.
IT'S TIME TO STOP INVESTING IN
FAILED STRATEGIES.
INVESTING IN MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS RESPONSE WITH A
PROFESSIONAL AND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING IS MUCH MORE AFFECTIVE.
INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY AND
STOP INVESTING IN SPD.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER, AMELIANO IS
SHOWING AS NOT PRESENT,
FOLLOWED BY BJ LAST, ALSO
SHOWING AS THAT'S PRESENT.
WE WILL GO BACK TO FOLKS IF
THEY THEIR STATUS CHANGES.
NEXT TO SUE FOLLOWED BY DAVID
HAINES.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I'M FROM THE CHINA TOWN
INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT IN FAVOR
OF RESOLUTION 32050.
IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT
ADDRESSES THE SIGNIFICANT
SHORTAGE OF POLICE OFFICERS
NEEDED TO EFFECTIVELY PROTECT
OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY THE
CULTURAL RICH HISTORIC
NEIGHBORHOODS OF CHINATOWN,
JAPANTOWN AND LITTLE SAIGON.
THERE'S BEEN A DRASTIC INCREASE
IN VIOLENCE THAT THREATS
PERSONAL SAFETY AND THE
SURVIVAL OF THE DISTRICT.
SEATTLE IS IN A PUBLIC SAFETY
CRISIS.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS
TO KEEP US SAFE.
THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES AN
ADDITIONAL TOOL TO QUICKLY
BRING MORE OFFICERS ON TO THE
FORCE.
THE STAFFING INCENTIVE PROGRAM
WILL ALLOW SEATTLE TO BE
COMPETITIVE IN ATTRACTING A
GOOD POOL OF APPLICANTS.
IT WILL ALLOW US TO BE MORE
SELECTIVE IN HIRING EXCEPTIONAL
OFFICERS AND THOSE WHO REFLECT
SEATTLE'S DIVERSE COMMUNITY,
PREFERABLY MULTILINGUAL AND
COMMUNITY ORIENTED.
I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
RESOLUTION 32050 AS INTRODUCED.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
GOING BACK UP TO LATONYA.
SHOWING AS PRESENT NOW.
LATONYA?
>> HELLO?
MY NAME IS LATONYA A BINARY
RESIDENT OF TWO.
I'M CALLING FROM A SWEEP AT
WOODLAWN PARK.
THE COUNCILMEMBERS CONTINUE TO
REFUSE TO SPEAK OUT WITH THE
JOB OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE KNOW HOUSING IS PUBLIC
SAFETY, DISPLACEMENT IS NOT.
I URGE YOU NOT TO PASS SARAH
NELSON'S RESOLUTION OR LISA
HERBOLD'S LEGISLATION FOR
MOVING FOR NEW OFFICER HIRES
AND ADDITIONAL RECRUITER.
YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN DATA,
BUT ONLY WHEN IT MATCHES WHAT
YOU WANT.
IN YOUR STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT YOU SAY THE
REPORT RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE
RESPONSE OPTIONS SHOULD BE
DEVELOPED FOR THE 70% OF CALLS
FOR SERVICES THAT DO NOT
REQUIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT
RESPONSE, BUT YOU DON'T LIKE
THAT, SO YOU ALLOW SPD TO GET
ANOTHER REPORT DONE.
YOU WANT ALTERNATIVES, BUT YOU
CAN'T MOVE MONEY OUT OF SPD
UNTIL THE ALTERNATIVES ARE
SHOWN TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
IT'S CLEAR THE PUBLIC SAFETY
STRATEGY OF GIVING HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SPD IS
NOT WORKING.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
GIVING THEM MORE MONEY.
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY MORE MONEY
WILL CHANGE ANYTHING.
THE BUDGET IS LARGER THAN MOST
COUNTRY'S MILITARY BUDGETS.
POLICING MAKES US LESS SAFE.
TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STOP
WASTING THE CITY'S MONEY AND
EXTRACT THE SALARY SAVINGS FROM
SPD TO INVEST IN A TRUE PUBLIC
SAFETY SUCH AS MEETING BASIC
NEEDS LIKE HOUSING, HEALTH
CARE, MENTAL HEALTH CARE, AND
ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALL
CONSIDER TO HAVE EVERY DAY TO
LIVE IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID
HAINES FOLLOWED BY ANN SMITH.
DAVID?
>> THANK YOU, DAVID HEINZ
DISTRICT 7, PIONEER SQUARE, THE
WORST, UNSAFE, MOST CREEPY
NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S OUTRAGEOUS THAT COUNCIL
HAS COMMITTED FUNDING TO GEORGE
SORRO'S INSTITUTE.
WHY IS THE MAYOR AND POLICE
CHIEF AND JUDGES ALLOW THE
ENTIRE POLICE AND JUSTICE
SYSTEM TO BE TURNED OVER TO THE
AGENDA OF THE INSTITUTE AND
ANOTHER FUNDED GROUP KNOWN AS
THE NATIONAL CONSTITUTE OF
CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM.
THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED OR
TRUSTWORTHY.
THANKS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR
BEING -- YET CITY COUNCIL IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR WHY LOW-LEVEL
DOLLAR DRUG PUSHERS OF CRACK,
METH, AND HEROIN ARE EXEMPT
FROM JAIL THIS IS ALL RELATED
TO THE JUNKY-SEEKING PROPERTY
CRIMES.
WHAT'S THE POINT IN HAVING CITY
COUNCIL IN CHARGE WHEN THEY PUT
AN OUT-OF-STATE, EVIL, LIBERAL,
NONPROFIT IN CHARGE OF ALL
LEVELS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND
JUSTICE REFORM?
YOU'RE ENDANGERING THE INNOCENT
LIVES, GOING OUT OF YOUR WAY TO
KEEP THE EVIL CRIMINALS
CONDUCTING WAR ON THE COMMUNITY
OUT OF JAIL.
YOU'RE UNDERMINING THE
INTEGRITY OF POLICE REFORM AND
SAFETY.
THE ONLY PEOPLE YOU HAVE MADE
IT SAFE FOR FROM THE
INSTITUTION IS THE ACTUAL
CRIMINALS.
I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW COWARDOUS
OUR MEDIA IS ON OUR FAILED
LEADERSHIP THAT HAS NOT
IMPROVED ANY ASPECT OF OUR
UNSAFE SOCIETY.
HAVE SOME DECENCY AND RESIGN.
THIS IS A VOLUNTEER PUBLIC
SERVICE JOB, YET YOU ACT LIKE
YOU'RE DOING US A FAVOR BY
STAYING IN OFFICE.
YOUR AGENDA IS TO PROTECT
CRIMINALS WHO HATE POLICE AND
INNOCENT WHITE CITIZENS.
YOU ENCOURAGE THEM.
YOU HAVE PURPOSELY UNDERMINED
CIVILIZATION
--
>> THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER THAT IS
SHOWING AS PRESENT ANN SMITH IS
NOT SHOWING AS PRESENT, SO WE
WILL GO DOWN TO MICHAEL MALINI
FOLLOWED BY ANN WILLIAMS.
MIKE UNTIL
>> MY NAME IS MICHAEL MALINI
RENTER IN DISTRICT THREE, CALL
FOR THE COUNCIL TO VOTE AGAINST
THE HIRING BONUSES FOR SPD.
MORE POLICE BONUSES DOES NOT
GET AT THE ROOT CAUSES OF THE
PROBLEMS REFERENCED.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER IS ANNA WILLIAMS
FOLLOWED BY PAULA MUELLER.
ANNA?
>> HELLO, HELLO.
I'M ANNA WILLIAMS.
I AM E-MAILING YOU TODAY TO
URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE
MEASURE GOING UP FOR VOTE TODAY
TO ALLOCATE $1 MILLION FOR THE
POLICE FORCE.
MY TODDLER WANTS TO GIVE
TESTIMONY.
I'M A MOM AND HOMEOWNER AND
SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN MAPLE
LEAF.
I UNDERSTAND PUBLIC SAFETY IS A
HUGE CONCERN, ESPECIALLY FOR
PEOPLE LIKE ME IN NORTH
SEATTLE.
THERE'S NO DATA TO SHOW THAT
INCREASING HIRING BONUSES WOULD
INCREASE THE COMPLICATIONS.
THERE'S A LOT OF DATA TO SHOW
THAT STABLE HOUSING AND
FINANCIAL STABILITY DOES
DECREASE ISSUES THUS GREATLY
INCREASING PUBLIC SAFETY AND
THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR
RESIDENTS.
WE COULD HOUSE OVER 100 PEOPLE
FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR WITH THE
MONEY.
I'M ABSOLUTELY IN ALIGNMENT
THAT MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT LET'S MAKE
DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS FOR ALL
PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE
WITH THE UNEARNED PRIVILEGE WHO
LIVE WHERE I LIVE AND LOOK LIKE
I LOOK.
LET'S KEEP GOING AND MAKING A
DATA-DRIVEN DECISION, AND VOTE
NO ON THE MEASURE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I YIELD MY TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
OUR LAST SPEAKER IS SHOWING AS
PRESENT PAULA MUELLER.
PAULA?
>> THANK YOU.
I'M PAULA MUELLER, A QUEEN ANNE
RESIDENT.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S
RESOLUTION 32050.
THE CITY OF SEATTLE IS FACING A
DANGEROUS SHORTAGE OF SWORN
OFFICERS, AND AT A TIME WHEN
CRIMES AND ESPECIALLY VIOLENT
CRIMES ARE ON THE RISE.
THE SITUATION DOES NOT PROPERLY
PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF SEATTLE
NOR THOSE COMING TO VISIT OUR
CITY.
EFFORTS TO HIRE AND RETAIN
OFFICERS HAS BEEN SLOW AND
UNSUCCESSFUL.
ONLY 13 NEW OFFICERS HAVE BEEN
HIRED RATHER THAN THE 40
ANTICIPATED, AND THERE'S BEEN
43 OFFICERS RESIGN, RATHER THAN
24 EXPECTED.
RESIDENTS HAD A CLEAR MESSAGE
FOR CITY ELECTED OFFICIALS
THROUGH THE ELECTION THAT
PUBLIC SAFETY MUST BE THE TOP
PRIORITY.
WE HAVE CONTINUED TO SEND THE
MESSAGE THROUGH SURVEYS AND
OTHER CHANNELS AS WELL.
WHILE WE REALIZE THAT OUR CITY
NEEDS OTHER SERVICES FOR THE
HOMELESS AND THOSE IN CRISIS,
WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT REDUCING
THE POLICE STAFF IS THE
SOLUTION.
IN FACT, THESE PEOPLE ARE MOST
VULNERABLE TO THE CRIMINAL
ENTERPRISES OPERATING
THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE MUST DO MORE TO ATTRACT OUR
HIGHLY QUALIFIED OFFICERS AND
REQUIRING TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY FROM SPD.
TO GET THE BEST CANDIDATES, WE
MUST BE PREPARED FOR BONUSES AS
PART OF A TOTAL COMPENSATION
PACKAGE.
OTHER REGIONS ARE SEEKING HIRES
FROM THE SAME SHRINKING TALENT
POOL.
ANYONE RESPONSIBLE FOR HUMAN
RESOURCES KNOWS THAT WHAT
EMPLOYEES VALUE MOST IN ORDER
OF IMPORTANCE ARE RESPECT,
RECOGNITION, AND REWARD.
IT'S TIME WE TREAT OUR POLICE
OFFICERS AS VALUED EMPLOYEES.
I ENCOURAGE EACH OF YOU TO
HONOR THE MESSAGE THAT VOTERS
SET LAST FALL ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC SAFETY IN
OUR CITY AND SUPPORT RESOLUTION
32050.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
THAT IS THE LAST SPEAKER THAT
IS SHOWING UP AS PRESENT.
WITH THAT WE WILL END PUBLIC
COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO THE
ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE READ IN
ITEM NUMBER ONE.
>> ITEM NUMBER ONE, RESPONSE TO
LEGISLATIVE INTENSE SPD-017-A-
001 FOR BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WILL START US HERE.
WE ARE JOINED BY ANDREW
MAYERBURG AND BRIAN MAXI, THE
COO OF SPD AND LAUREN ATHERLY
OF THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE BRIEF
BACKGROUND, AND I WILL HAND IT
OVER TO GREG DOSS ON THE
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF IN AUGUST
OF 2020, THE COUNCIL FIRST
REQUESTED SPD UNDERTAKE A 911
CALL RESPONSE ANALYSIS.
IN OCTOBER OF THAT YEAR, 2020,
THE FORMER MAYOR ISSUED AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER TO IDENTIFY THE
AREAS OF SPD RESPONSE THAT CAN
BE TRANSITIONED TO CIVILIAN AND
COMMUNITY-BASED RESPONSE.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WORK
THAT WAS STARTED ALMOST TWO
YEARS AGO NOW, LOOKING AT
AUGUST 2020.
LAST YEAR THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT COMMISSIONED A
REPORT FROM THE NATIONAL
INSTITUTE FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM TO ANALYZE THE 911 CALL
TYPES.
THAT REPORT IDENTIFIED 174 CALL
TYPES AS POSSIBLE CANDIDATES
FOR ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES.
IN A BRIEFING HERE IN THIS
COMMITTEE IN JULY OF LAST YEAR,
THE EXECUTIVE HIGHLIGHTED THE
FACT THAT THEY AGREED UP TO 12%
OF CALLS FOR SERVICE CAN BE
RESPONDED TO WITHOUT SPD
INVOLVEMENT IN THE NEAR TERM,
AND THIS IS 28 OF THE CALL
TYPES THAT THE REPORT
IDENTIFIED.
THE REPORT IDENTIFIED 174.
SPD WAS NOT WILLING TO GO THAT
FAR THAT ALL CALL TYPES COULD
BE DIVERTED, BUT THEY DID AGREE
THAT 28 COULD BE.
THAT WAS JULY OF LAST YEAR THAT
SPD AGREED THAT 28 OF THE CALL
TYPES COULD BE DIVERTED THEY
AGREE ON THOSE CALL TYPES.
THEY FEEL THE CALL TYPES COULD
POTENTIALLY BE APPROPRIATE FOR
AN ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE OR ON A
LONGER TIME HORIZON OR LONGER
PLANNING HORIZON IN ORDER TO
DIVERT THE CALLS, BUT THEY
WANTED TO DO MORE ANALYSIS,
SORT OF A CHECK ON THE REPORT.
IN 2021, RECOGNIZING THAT SPD
WANTED TO DO THE ADDITIONAL
WORK, AND COUNCIL ADOPTED THE
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE
INTENSE.
THAT'S FOUND ON THE AGENDA, AND
THE STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE
INTENT REQUESTED SPD PROVIDE
QUARTERLY UPDATES ON THE
PROCESS OF THE CONTINUING WORK.
COUNCIL RECEIVED THE FIRST
UPDATE, AGAIN, INCLUDED ON THE
AGENDA.
BEFORE THE -- PROCEED, HANDING
IT OVER TO GREG DOSS ON COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF TO HIGHLIGHT,
RECOGNIZING THE FIRST QUARTERLY
REPORT DOES NOT FULLY CAPTURE
EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD
INTENDED, AND JUST FOR THE
RECORD, I WANT GREG REALLY
QUICKLY TO TOUCH ON WHAT WE
ANTICIPATED TO BE INCLUDED IN
THE RECORD.
>> GOOD MORNING.
GREG DOSS, MEMBER OF THE
CENTRAL STAFF.
AS USUAL, THE CHAIR DID AN
EXCELLENT JOB WITH BACKGROUND
AND STOLE MUCH OF WHAT I WOULD
TELL YOU, I WOULD AS SHE
SUGGESTED GO INTO AN OVERVIEW
OF WHAT THE SLIDES SPECIFICALLY
REQUESTED.
IT REQUESTED IN THE FIRST
QUARTERLY REPORT, INFORMATION
ON THE SPECIFIC CALL TYPES THAT
COULD BE HANDLED WITHOUT SPD
INVOLVEMENT AT ALL.
THOSE INCLUDE CALLS THAT SPD
AGREED COULD BE CIVILIANIZED
WITHOUT HARM TO RESPONDERS,
INCLUDING ADMINISTRATIVE
RESPONSES LIKE TRAFFIC
COLLISION REPORTS, AND IT ALSO
REQUESTED SPD LOOK AT RESPONSES
TO LOW-LEVEL MISDEMEANOR CALLS
OR WHERE A MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONAL COULD TAKE A LEAD
ROLE, AND THE OFFICER REMAINS
ON SITE FOR SAFETY PURPOSES,
ESSENTIALLY LOOKING AT
ALTERNATIVES FOR 911 RESPONSES
AND COMING BACK WITH A
PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION ON
WHAT KINDS OF CALLS COULD BE
CIVILIANIZED.
INCLUDING THE 12% OF CALLS THAT
SPD AGREED COULD BE
CIVILIANIZED IMMEDIATELY AND
OTHER CALLS.
29 CALL TYPES THAT COULD BE
HANDLED WITHOUT SPD
INVOLVEMENT.
SO THAT WAS THE FOCUS OF THE
FIRST QUARTERLY REPORT, AND AS
THE CHAIR SUGGESTED, THE
DEPARTMENT CAME BACK ABOUT A
MONTH AGO AND SAID IT WOULD NOT
BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SPECIFIC
DELIVERABLES TODAY, BUT WOULD
PROVIDE A REPORT ON THE
BACKGROUND AND PROGRESS TO
DATE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE
COMMITTEE WILL HEAR, AND FUTURE
REPORTS WILL BE HEARD ON I
BELIEVE JULY 1 AND OCTOBER 1,
AND THEY WILL DEAL WITH THE
SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
SPD MAY MAKE ON ALTERNATIVE 911
RESPONSE.
THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> GREG, I JUST WANT TO THANK
THE EXECUTIVE FOR BEING HERE
WITH US TODAY.
I KNOW IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY TO
COME AND TALK TO US WHEN MAYBE
THE WORK PRODUCT MIGHT NOT BE
WHAT WE HOPED.
I RECOGNIZE WE HAVE A NEW
ADMINISTRATION AND THERE ARE A
LOT OF, SHALL WE SAY BALLS IN
THE AIR, AND REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT YOU ARE HERE WITH US TODAY
BECAUSE I THINK THAT SIGNALS,
AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU
TO SAY SO IN YOUR OWN WORDS,
BUT I THINK IT SIGNALS A REAL
COMMITMENT ON THE PART OF THE
EXECUTIVE TO CONTINUE THE WORK.
WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER,
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US
HERE TODAY.
SUPPLEMENTING ONE THING GREG
SAID.
THE BACKGROUND, WE ARE ON THE
SAME PAGE HOW WE GOT HERE.
SPD WILL NOT MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS WHAT
ALTERNATIVES WILL ROLLOUT.
SPD IS INVOLVED LIKE A NUMBER
OF STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDING THE
CITY COUNCIL.
WHAT SPD WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY,
SPD ENGAGED IN THE CALL
ANALYSIS, A RISK ANALYSIS.
IT'S UP TO US, COLLABORATIVELY
TO DECIDE WHAT CALLS WILL BE
SHIFTED.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT,
VERSES THE WORK WE ARE DOING
COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER
TO BOTH BRIAN AND LAUREN TO
TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROJECT IS
AND WHAT THE OUTPUT IS WE ARE
HOPING TO GET FROM IT, AND HOW
IT CAN COMPLIMENT THE WORK DONE
AND THE TIME LINE GENERALLY.
BRIAN AND LAUREN, WOULD YOU
MIND GOING FROM HERE?
>> NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
DIRECTOR.
I'M JUST GOING TO KICK THIS
OFF.
MY WANT, I WILL GET OUT OF THE
WAY OF THE MATH.
I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE THE
CENTER OF PIECE OF THE
PRESENTATION TODAY.
REALLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO
IS UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY OF
THE QUESTIONS ASKED OF US IN
TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
AS YOU KNOW THE SPD DATA
ANALYTICS IS FAR MORE ADVANCED
THAN PEOPLE GIVE US CREDIT FOR.
A MONTH AGO, WE WERE AT HARVARD
PRESENTING SOME OF THE RESULTS
ON THE EAQ AND RMB SYSTEMS AT
HARVARD TO PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY
RECEPTIVE, USING ADVANCED
ANALYTICS TO UNDERSTAND THE
PUBLIC SAFETY PROBLEMS.
THE REPORT THAT CALLED FOR THE
APPROPRIATE CIVILIAN RESPONSE,
HONESTLY AND DIRECTLY, WE TAKE
ISSUE WITH IT.
WE DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS A
RESPONSIBLE ANALYSIS, AND THEY
DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MANY
OF THE VARIABLES THAT ARE
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO SAFELY
NAVIGATING THE CALLS.
THE 12% WE DISCUSSED LAST
SUMMER, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT
THE BACK OF THE ENVELOPE
ANALYSIS, BUT IT WAS FAR LESS
SOPHISTICATED THAN THE APPROACH
WE ARE TAKING RIGHT NOW.
IT WAS THE BEST GUESS, AND I
CERTAINLY BELIEVE THERE ARE
SOME LOW-HANGING FRUIT CALLS
THAT SHOULD AND COULD BE
TRANSFERRED TO CIVILIAN
RESPONSE AS SOON AS PRACTICAL,
BUT LAUREN WILL PRESENT THE
METHODOLOGY FOR UNDERSTANDING
AT MUCH MORE GRANULAR AND
RESPONSIBLE LEVEL WHAT CAN AND
SHOULD BE DONE.
WITH THAT, AGAIN, I WILL GET
OUT OF THE WAY AND TURN IT OVER
TO LAUREN.
DOES LAUREN HAVE THE ABILITY TO
SHARE HIS SCREEN FOR THE
PRESENTATION?
I DON'T KNOW THAT WAS PROVIDED
TO COUNCIL PRIOR TO TODAY.
ALEX, YOU WITH US?
CAN LAUREN DO THAT?
>> IT LOOKS LIKE I CAN.
CAN EVERYONE SEE THAT?
>> YEAH.
>>
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
I PROMISE TO KEEP THE MATH
SHORT AND KEEP THIS FROM A MATH
LOGICAL PERSPECTIVE.
JUST SORT OF A MATTER TO
PRACTICALLY SET THE STAGE HERE,
YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THE
RESPONSE OF THE BODY OF WORK
BEING COMPLEX, THE MATH IS
INHERENTLY NONLINEAR.
FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT,
ALTERNATING THE CALLS TO A
DIFFERENTIAL POLICE RESPONSE
AND ALSO THE
OPERATIONALLIZATION OF THAT OR
THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS FOR
ROUTEING TO AN ALTERNATE
RESPONSE.
BOTH ARE CHALLENGING PIECES TO
THE ANALYSIS.
JUST REALLY QUICK, I WILL GO
THROUGH THE ROUGH BACKGROUND ON
THE DIFFERENTIAL POLICE
RESPONSE.
THE HISTORY DATES FOR 50 YEARS
OR SO, TALKING ABOUT THE
PRINCIPLES OF RISK MANAGEMENT,
WHICH WE ARE ADOPTING HERE FROM
OTHER INDUSTRIES WHO HAVE USED
THE APPROACH FOR MANAGING
RISKS.
THAT'S SEVERITY AND LIKELIHOOD
OF THE EVENTS AND MAKING HIGH-
LEVEL DECISIONS AND HOW IT
LEADS TO THE CONCEPT.
BROADLY SPEAKING, POLICING AS A
FUNCTION OF SORT OF A BROADER
MUNICIPAL SERVICES HAS BEEN
ATTEMPTING TO FIND THE VALUE
FOR DIFFERENTIAL RESPONSE SINCE
ABOUT THE LATE 1950s.
SOME OF THIS REALLY KIND OF
CAME TO FRUITION IN THE LATE
1970s WITH THE WILMINGTON SPLIT
HALF EXPERIMENT AND THEN THE
POLICE EXPERIMENT IN THE 1980s.
ALL OF THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING
HAS RUN INTO A ROADBLOCK AT THE
PSAC, THE PUBLIC SAFETY
ANSWERING POINT.
MOSTLY BECAUSE IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT TO TELL FROM WHAT IS
BEING DESCRIBED JUST EXACTLY
WHAT PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH.
THAT'S THE GENERAL LIMITATION
BEHIND THE REPORT, IT DEALS
WITH PERFECT INFORMATION.
THE PERFECT SERVICE IS
CONFIRMED AFTER WE TAKE AN ALL
HAZARD RESPONDER.
IT'S IN PROXIMITY TO THE CALL
OR THE SERVICE BEING REQUESTED,
AND THEY CAN CONFIRM AND RIGHT
SIZE THE RESPONSE.
UP UNTIL NOW, THE DATA AND
UNDERSTANDING OF THE GENERAL
RISK PROFILE IS, AND IT CAN BE
VISUALIZED AND ACCEPTED AS A
MATTER OF PUBLIC POLICY, AND
IT'S BEEN LIMITED.
IN RECENT YEARS, THE VOLUME OF
THE DATA COLLECTED, AND THE
ABILITY TO PROCESS IT AS MADE A
DIFFERENTIAL POLICE RESPONSE.
I MEAN THE ALTERNATE RESPONSE
POSSIBLE.
BROADLY SPEAKING, THE
LITERATURE BEHIND THIS IN
PARTICULAR, IT'S ABOUT 1200
PUBLICATIONS BETWEEN 1954 AND
2020.
CLUSTERS INTO SORT OF FOUR
GENERAL AREAS OF FOCUS.
TWO HAVE GENERAL POLICE
RESPONSE, AND THAT'S
FUNDAMENTALLY WHERE WE ARE
FOCUSED.
THAT'S THE BULK OF CALLS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT
THAT THE INDUSTRY IS ADVANCED
IN TAKING A MORE SENSITIVE
APPROACH TO SPECIFIC PROBLEMS
THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE EASILY
IDENTIFIABLE FROM THE WAY THE
CALL PRESENTS, LIKE PEOPLE WITH
MENTAL ILLNESS VERSES MENTAL
ILLNESS AND PARTNER VIOLENCE.
AGAIN, ALL OF THESE ALTERNATE
RESPONSE MODES ARE DEPENDENT ON
DIAGNOSING WHAT THE CALL IS OR
IDENTIFYING IT CONFIDENTIAL AT
THE OUTSET.
SO SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT FROM A
RISK MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE,
THERE'S A LOT OF INDUSTRIES
THAT DO HIGHLY -- ENGAGE IN
HIGHLY RISKY ACTIVITIES.
THE INDUSTRIES HAVE FOUND A WAY
TO MITIGATE THE DAILY RISKS
THAT ARE POSED BY THE
OPERATIONS THROUGH, SORT OF A
SYSTEMATIC APPROACH TO
ASSESSING AND APPLYING POLICIES
BASED ON THE RISK OR WHAT THE
RISK REPRESENTS TO THE
ORGANIZATION.
FUNDAMENTALLY RISK MANAGEMENT
BORROWS FROM THE INITIAL CIVIL
ORGANIZATION, THE BODY THAT
GOVERNORS COMMERCIALIVE VISION
AND AIR CONTROL AND FIRE
FIGHTING IN THE RISK MANAGEMENT
APPROACH.
THE RISK MANAGEMENT APPROACH
CATEGORIZING AND DEALING WITH
PROD POLICIES IS OR THE OF THE
MYRIAD DETAILS THAT CONTRIBUTE
TO THE OPERATIONAL PROFILE OF
THE ORGANIZATION, AND IT'S BASE
IN AVIATION BECAUSE THERE'S
SIMILAR USE CASES THAT APPLY
HERE.
GENERALLY IT TAKES THE
LIKELIHOOD OF THE SEVERE
OUTCOME BASED IN SORT OF BROAD
CATEGORIES, PLOTTING THEM ON
THE RISK MATRIX, AND JUST AS
YOU CAN SEE THE COLOR CODING
HERE, APPLIES DIFFERENT
POLICIES, HIGH-RISK EVENT SUCH
AS MAY BE
SEVERE AND VERY LIKELY EVENT,
AND YOU WILL SEE ON THE MODEL
TO THE LOWER RIGHT OF THIS RISK
MATRIX, THE DEMAND RISK
MITIGATION, AND IT WOULD DEMAND
BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THE
ACTION OR ACTIVITY, THE
ORGANIZATION TAKES SOME STEPS
TO MITIGATE RISK.
MOST TREAT THEM AS ALL HIGH
RISK.
WHAT RISK MANAGEMENT DEMAND IS
TRYING TO DO, TAKE THE 400,000
CALLS WE RESPOND TO EVERY YEAR,
AND THEN BREAK THEM DOWN INTO
BROADER CATEGORIES, REPRESENTED
BY THE LIKELIHOOD THAT A SEVERE
OUTCOME, BE IT DEATH, INJURY,
OR HARM, IS RELATED TO THAT
EVENT.
SO NOW THE CONCEPT OF SEVERITY.
IT'S TRICKY, RIGHT?
ATTEMPTING TO IDENTIFY THE
OBJECTIVE CRITERIA IS
PROBLEMATIC.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE
COMPLEXITY OF THE FORECASTING
RISK AND THE ANALYSIS.
WITHIN THE NIC JR. DATA THAT
WAS CONSIDERED, IT LOOKS LIKE
ABOUT 300 INITIAL AND FINAL
CALL TYPES IN REALITY WHEN YOU
COMPARE OR COMBINE THE
NONLINEAR RELATIONSHIPS WITH
HOW THE CALL IS RECEIVED, HOW
IT'S CATEGORIZED INITIALLY AND
FINALLY AND HOW IT'S CLEARED,
THERE'S ABOUT 41,900 FLAVORS OF
CALLS FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND TO.
OBJECTIVE CRITERIA FOR
ASSESSING WHAT THE CALLS
REPRESENT IS DIFFICULT TO COME
BY.
THE QUALITY OF POLICING AND
POLICE SERVICE CAN BE A SQUISHY
CONCEPT DEPENDING ON WHAT IS
IMPORTANT TO A PARTICULAR
COMMUNITY.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE ARE
DISCUSSING WHAT IS SAFE FOR THE
CORESPONSE OR ALTERNATE
RESPONSE, OR WHAT IS SAFE FOR A
DELAYED POLICE RESPONSE, AND
WHERE YOU CAN POTENTIALLY
PROVIDE A SATISFYING OPTION FOR
PEOPLE REQUESTING SERVICE.
IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT IT
REPRESENTS IN THE RISK TO LIFE
CALL SAFETY.
WE HAVE THE CODED INDEX FROM
SEVERITY FIVE BEING THE
HIGHEST, AND THEN THE UNNATURAL
DEATH OF THE PERSON ASSOCIATED
WITH THE EVENT.
INJURY BEING SEVERITY THREE AND
FOUR.
SEVERITY THREE AND FOUR DEFINED
BY THE STANDARD OF CARE
NECESSARY FOR THE INJURY
RELATED TO THAT PERSON.
THAT'S A MEDICAL CONCEPT, ALS
OR BLS ADVANCED OR BASIC LIFE
SERVICES AS DEFINED BY THE
RESPONSE AND RESPONSE TO EMT
AND THEN REQUIRING CONTINUED
CARE AND TRANSFER TO MEDICAL
PROVIDER.
SEVERITY TWO IS SIMPLE FIRST
AID, SOMETHING ATTENDED TO BY
AN EMT OR HIGHER LEVEL, AND
ESSENTIALLY THE STANDARD OF AIR
BEING APPLIED FOR THE PERSON
WHO IS INJURED, AND IT MEANS
THEY CAN BE TREATED AT THE
SCENE AND RELEASED.
SEVERITY ONE RESPONSE IS NO
PHYSICAL HARM DONE TO A PERSON,
BUT SOME HARM IN THE CONCEPT
OF, SAY THE CAMBRIDGE HARM
INDEX RELATED TO THE EVENT.
FUNDAMENTALLY AT THAT POINT,
KIND OF GRANULATING THE
SEVERITY OF THE EVENT TO THE
OFFENSE AND THE HIGH HARM OR
LOW HARM CLASSIFICATION.
WHEN YOU COMBINE THE SEVERITY
OF THE EVENT AND THE LIKELIHOOD
IT WILL OCCUR, YOU CAN PLOT IT
ON THE MULTIDIMENSIONAL MATRIX.
WHAT I HAVE HERE ARE PROPOSED
DEFINITIONS, JUST AS AN
EXAMPLE.
WHAT WE WILL DO WITH THE
ANALYSIS ONCE THE DATA IS IN
THE FINAL STATE IS ACTUALLY
LOOK FOR A NATURAL CLUSTERING
OF THE DATA.
THERE'S TWO APPROACHES TO
CATEGORIZING RISK.
YOU CAN TAKE A POLICY
PERSPECTIVE, AND GATHERING
INFORMATION BASED ON WHAT THE
SORT OF CONCEPTIONAL RISK IS TO
THE ORGANIZATION AND WHAT IS
ACCEPTABLE TO DECISION MAKERS
AND POLICYMAKERS, AND
ALTERNATIVELY, YOU CAN LOOK FOR
NATURAL CLUSTERS IN THE DATA
WHERE THESE THINGS BREAK OUT
INTO A NATURAL CATEGORY OR
DISTINCT RESPONSE.
WE WILL FORCE FOUR FACTOR OR
FIVE FACTOR PRINCIPLE COMPONENT
TO SEE WHERE WE SEE THE NATURAL
CLUSTERS MATHEMATICALLY, AND
THEY TRANSLATE INTO THE SIMPLE
DEFINITIONS TO BE ENGAGED
BROADLY BY THE STAKEHOLDERS,
COMMUNITY PARTNERS, LEADERSHIP,
AND BY RESPONSE ORGANIZATIONS,
BECAUSE, PART OF THE STRUGGLE,
GENERALLY SPEAKING IN
ONBOARDING CORESPONSES IS IN
PROVIDING ENOUGH INFORMATION TO
THE CORESPONSE BODIES TO ALLOW
THEM TO ACCEPT THE RISK AS
WELL.
THEY NEED SOME SENSE FOR WHAT
THE RISK PROFILE IS THAT THEY
ARE ACCEPTING FOR THEIR
EMPLOYEES OR RESPONDERS OR
VOLUNTEERS, AND THIS WOULD
TRANSLATE THE RISK CONCEPT BOTH
AS A MULTIDIMENSIONAL RISK
MATRIX AS I IDENTIFIED AND WILL
SHOW YOU HERE IN A SIMULATION
SHORTLY, AND ALSO IN TERMS OF
SIMPLE DEFINITIONS.
VERY LIKELY 1 OUT OF EVERY
10,000 RESPONSES OR
APPROXIMATELY 90 A YEAR, ALL
THE WAY UP TO VERY UNLIKELY, 1
OUT OF EVERY 2.7 MILLION
RESPONSES.
OR ONE EVERY THREE YEARS GIVEN
THE VOLUME OF RESPONSES THAT
SPD RESPONDS TO.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO KIND
OF CONCEPTUALIZE THOSE THINGS
IN YOUR HEAD.
THE SIMULATION OF THE MATRIX,
AND THE LOADING OF THE MATRIX
WITH AN AXIS LIKE A BAR CHART,
LOOKING VERY MUCH LIKE THIS.
WE HAVE THIS SEVERITY AND
LIKELIHOOD, AND THE SEVERITY IS
ON THE VERTICAL AXIS, AND
LIKELIHOOD, SORRY SEVERITY ON
THE HORIZONTAL AXIS.
I WANT TO POINT OUT THESE ARE
NOT REAL.
IT'S WHAT THE FIRST STAGE OF
THE ANALYSIS LOOKS LIKE.
THE SEVERITY AND LIKELIHOOD OF
14 YEARS, 5 MILLION RECORDS OF
RESPONSE DATA, AND YOU COMBINE
THAT WITH THE OCCURRENCE OF THE
ADVERSE EVENTS, THE SEVERITIES
OF ONE THROUGH FIVE, AND PLOT
THEM ON THE FOUR-FACTOR RISK
MATRIX LIKE THIS, YOU GET THIS
KIND OF BROAD MULTIDIMENSIONAL
BAR CHART, AND FROM HERE, YOU
CAN TAKE THE CATEGORIES OF
CALLS AND BE GIVEN ALTERNATE
RESPONSES FOR THEM.
IT'S EASIER TO WRAP YOUR HEAD
AROUND THE RESPONSE TIERS THAN
THE RESPONSE TYPES.
WE HAVE TAKEN THE FOUR-TIER
RESPONSE FROM THE NIC JR.
REPORT AND REVERSE CODED IT FOR
THE CONVENTIONAL USE CALL
PRIORITY, AND TIER ONE IS THE
HIGHEST RISK TOP OF EVENT WE
RESPOND TO, AND FOUR IS THE
LOWEST TYPE.
WITH TIERS TWO AND THREE, SOME
FORM OF MITIGATED CORESPONSE.
TIER ONE RESPONSE, ALWAYS GOING
TO REMAIN A POLICE RESPONSE.
THAT'S A RESPONSE TO A CRIME IN
PROGRESS, WHERE A POLICE
OFFICER IS EITHER STATUTORY OR
RISK RESPONDER, BEST EQUIPPED
TO RESPOND TO THE EVENT.
AS REFLECTED IN THE SIMULATED
RISK MATRIX SEEN THERE, THAT'S
PROJECTED TO BE A RELATIVELY
SMALL VOLUME OF CALLS.
TIER TWO RESPONSES WOULD BE AN
EVENT THAT DOES REPRESENT AN
ELEVATED RISK OF ADVERSE EVENT
TO RESPONDERS OR BYSTANDERS,
AND THERE'S LIKELY A BETTER
RESPONSE ALTERNATIVE THAT CAN
MEET THE NEEDS MORE
EFFECTIVELY.
IN THAT CASE, BY PAIRING THE
CORESPONDER WITH THE POLICE
OFFICER, YOU'RE EFFECTIVELY
MITIGATING THE RISK TO THE
RESPONDER IDEALLY THERE, SHOULD
THE EVENT EVOLVE TO A TIER ONE
RESPONSE.
TIER TWO, ONCE THE IMMEDIATE
LIFE-HEALTH-SAFETY RISK IS
MITIGATED, IT WOULD REVERT TO
THREE.
IT'S STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL.
IT HAS BROAD IMPLICATIONS AT
THE HIGH LEVEL FOR BUILDING
CAPACITY AND RESOURCING
APPROPRIATELY THE FOUR
DIFFERENT TIER RESPONSES, AND
ON THE GROUND, IMPLICATIONS FOR
THE CONTINUED CONTACT, THE
INITIAL CALL, AND IT'S ALL THE
WAY THROUGH THE FINAL CLOSURE
OF THE EVENT.
WITH THE DYNAMIC RISK
MITIGATION.
AS SOON AS IT'S ADDRESSED, IT
CAN REVERT TO THE TIER THREE
RESPONSE.
SIMILARLY TIER THREE WITH NO
FORECAST RISK TO THE RESPONDERS
MAY BE BEST HANDLED BY A
CORESPONDER WITH POLICE STAGED
NEARBY AS WE BELIEVE
POTENTIALLY POLICE CAN ESCALATE
AN EVENT, BUT YOU WANT THEM TO
RESPOND RAPIDLY SHOULD THE
EVENT TURN OUT TO BE SOMETHING
ELSE ONCE THE RESPONDERS ARRIVE
AND CAN MAKE A BETTER
ASSESSMENT OF WHAT IS BEING
REPORTED.
TIER FOUR RESPONSES ARE
ACTUALLY KIND OF THE GOING BACK
TO THE ORIGINAL DIFFERENTIAL
POLICE RESPONSE CONCEPT, AND
THEY ARE WHAT WAS ATTEMPTED TO
BE REALIZED IN THE 1980s, AND
THAT IS WHERE APPOINTMENTS,
WALKUP COUNTERS, AND BASICALLY
TECHNOLOGY HAS EVOLVED FOR US.
NOW THE ABILITY TO REPORT
CRIMES AND THE SERVICES
GENERALLY COMING INTO THE 911
CENTER, BEING ABLE TO REPORT
THOSE IN AN ONLINE SELF-SERVICE
PORTAL, BEING ABLE TO DIRECT TO
AN ALTERNATE RESPONDER.
THERE'S NO SORT OF FORECAST OR
ACCEPTABLE RISK TO BYSTANDERS
OR IMMEDIATE NEED.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
CITY, MORE BROADLY TO PROVIDE A
SATISFYING AND MORE RISK-
MITIGATED RESPONSE FOR THE BODY
OF WORK.
SO FORGIVE ME, I AM SURE THIS
IS THE FIRST OF A VARIETY OF
THIS CONCEPT.
THAT'S THE FIRST HIGH LEVEL
BRIEFING.
WE ARE AT THE DATA DEVELOPMENT
WORKING WITH THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT AND SEATTLE
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT IN BRINGING THIS
DATA TOGETHER AND CATEGORIZING
THE RISK SO THAT IT CAN BE
ASSESSED SORT OF AS I SUGGESTED
THERE, AND INITIAL SORT OF
STEPS AFTER THAT, FROM A
MATHEMATICAL PERSPECTIVE, AND
EXAMINE THE RELIABILITY OF THE
FORCED FACTOR OR SORRY, THE
RISK FACTOR ANALYSIS BEING DONE
THERE, AND JUST EXACTLY WHAT
THE LEVEL OF EFFORT NECESSARY
TO FORECAST THAT RISK IN
OPERATIONAL SETTING WOULD BE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO
QUESTIONS, I FIRST WANT TO
STATE THAT WE WILL NEED A COPY
OF THE PRESENTATION FOR
PURPOSES OF POSTING THE AGENDA
AND ALL MATERIALS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND ALSO WANT TO GO BACK TO
SOMETHING THAT THE DIRECTOR
SAID ABOUT THE -- THE
RECOMMENDATIONS WILL NOT PURELY
SPD'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT FOLKS ARE
MEETING WITH CENTRAL STAFF THIS
WEEK TO DISCUSS THAT
COLLABORATION AND ONGOING
EXECUTIVE PROCESSES INCLUDING
SORT OF THIS INTERNAL WORK
GROUP ON THIS ANALYSIS.
DO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT
IS SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING?
>> WE MEET WITH CENTRAL STAFF
TODAY.
>> GREAT.
I'M OPTIMISTIC WHAT WILL COME
FORWARD ON THAT PROCESS PIECE.
I THINK IT WILL BE VERY, VERY
HELPFUL TO US ON THE COUNCIL IN
THAT WORK MOVING FORWARD.
I DO SEE THERE'S QUESTIONS
THERE, AND I JUST WANT TO GET
BASELINE UNDERSTANDING BEFORE I
OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS.
IS IT AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION
OF THIS ANALYSIS, RISK-MANAGED
ANALYSIS TO SAY THE PURPOSE IS
TO ANALYZE THE NIC JR. STUDY OF
THE 911 CALLS AS ORIGINALLY
DISPATCHED, THE EVENTS THAT
TRANSPIRED DURING THE CALL, AND
THE ENDING OR FINAL CALL TYPE
RECORDED IN THE CAD OR RMS.
IF SO, CAN YOU JUST STATE IN A
COUPLE OF FULL SENTENCES WHAT
DIDN'T HAPPEN WITH THE NIC JR.
ANALYSIS THAT YOU'RE DOING?
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE NIC JR.
ANALYSIS IS A GOOD ROUGH CUT,
BUT IT'S BASED IN PERFECT
INFORMATION.
IT'S BASED IN WHAT WE KNOW TO
BE THE DISPOSITION OF THE
EVENT.
IT'S REALLY ONLY CONFIRMED
AFTER THE RESPONDER ARRIVES AT
IT.
THE ANALYSIS HERE, THE CONCEPT
OF BOTH INCORPORATING THE DATA
NOT AVAILABLE TO THE ANALYSIS,
THE ADVERSE OUTCOMES, AND
THERE'S A ONE TO MANY
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THOSE, AND
ALSO IT SORT OF EVOLVES THE
CONCEPT OF BETTER UNDERSTANDING
WHAT IT TAKES TO IMPLEMENT IT.
THE NIC JR. ANALYSIS FROM A
HIGH-LEVEL PERSPECTIVE IS A
GREAT WAY TO ENTER THE
CONVERSATION.
ONCE THE EVENTS HAVE EVOLVED
THEMSELVES, THEY LAND IN THE
BUCKETS YOU CAN ROUGHLY SAY
THAT EVENTUALLY DIDN'T END UP
NEEDING A POLICE RESPONDER, BUT
THE TRICK IN THIS IS BEING ABLE
TO FORECAST, AND NOT PREDICT,
BUT BEING ABLE TO FORECAST IN
TERMS OF SUPPORTING HUMAN
DECISION MAKING AT THE VARIOUS
STAGES, A LONG CALL PROCESSING,
AND WHAT THE EVENT MAY TURN OUT
TO BE SO WE CAN RIGHT SIZE THE
RESPONSE, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE
OF THE EVIDENCE-BASED POLICING
REFERRED TO AS THE GOLDILOCKS
POLICING.
WHAT WE NEED TO DETERMINE IN
THIS CASE IS WHAT IS NECESSARY
TO ASSIST THE SPECTRUM OF
RESPONSE, AND THAT CONTINUAL
RESPONSE, BEING ABLE TO RIGHT-
SIZE THE RESPONSE --
>> DIDN'T YOUR REPORT ONLY LOOK
AT THE ORIGINAL CALL TYPE?
NOW ARE YOU LOOKING AT
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED
AFTERWARDS?
IS THAT THE BOTTOM LINE?
>> CORRECT.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION,
BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK A COUPLE
OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STEPS
FORWARD AND WHEN WE CAN EXPECT
TO START SEEING MAYBE SOME KIND
OF SUBSTANCE ON THE STREET
PILOT TO START DOING SOME OF
THE WORK, AND I APPRECIATE THE
LETTER THAT WAS SENT ALONG ON
APRIL 26th FROM CHIEF DIAZ, BUT
I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING
THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND OR
TWO YEARS OF HAVING THE
MEETINGS AND TALKING ABOUT
THIS, THAT THE CHIEF IN THE
SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THE LETTER,
IN THE COMMUNITY RECORD,
INDICATING 97% OF ALL CALLS
RECEIVED ARE DIFFERENT THAN
INITIALLY CLASSIFIED.
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO ACCURATELY
PREDICT THE OUTCOME OF EVERY
CALL.
I APPRECIATE GIVEN THE CURRENT
SYSTEM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, BUT
WHAT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND,
AND MAYBE I CAN GET AN ANSWER
FROM SOMEONE ON THE PANEL HERE
TODAY IS DENVER, COLORADO, HAS
BEEN DOING THIS FOR TWO YEARS.
DENVER, COLORADO, HAS BEEN
RESPONDING TO 2,700 CALLS
WITHOUT ANY INCIDENT OR PROBLEM
DISPATCHED THROUGH 911, AND
THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE
OUT A WAY TO TRIAGE THEM DURING
THE CALLS.
DID THEY GO THROUGH THE SIMILAR
DATA ANALYSIS PROJECT LIKE
THIS?
WHY HAVEN'T I HEARD FROM ANY OF
THE PANELS OVER THE LAST TWO
YEARS LIKE A SITE VISIT OR
ANALYSIS OR ASSESSMENT OR
DISCUSSION WITH ANYONE FROM
DENVER ABOUT HOW THEY RESPOND
TO THESE CALLS?
I FEEL LIKE WHENEVER WE HAVE A
PRESENTATION LIKE THIS, IT'S
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO
CONCEPTION ON HOW A MAJOR CITY
CAN RESPOND DIFFERENTLY, BUT
THERE'S A MAJOR CITY WITH A
SIMILAR POPULATION AND
DEMOGRAPHICS TO SEATTLE, AND
THEY HAVE BEEN RESPONDING TO
THE CALLS FOR TWO YEARS.
THEY ARE EXPANDING NOW TO
10,000 CALLS PER YEAR.
I AM JUST CURIOUS, LIKE HAVE
THERE BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH
WHAT DENVER IS DOING THAT
ALLOWS THEM TO DO THE WORK?
WHAT ARE THEY DOING THAT WE ARE
MISSING?
IS THIS ASSESSMENT AND ANALYSIS
GOING TO GET US THERE?
ARE WE FOLLOWING THEIR EXAMPLE?
WHAT -- LIKE HOW CAN WE LEARN
FROM THE CITY THAT IS DOING THE
WORK?
I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.
>> I CAN ANSWER THAT, AND I
WILL SHIFT OVER TO BRIAN AS
WELL.
HE HAS DONE THE BACKGROUNDING
ON DENVER, AND PART OF WHAT WE
ARE UP TO RIGHT NOW, AND PART
OF THE WORK WE WILL BE DOING
WITH CENTRAL STAFF AND
INTERNALLY WITH THE WORK GROUP,
DEEP DIVE RESEARCH INTO THE
DIFFERENT PROGRAMS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY, DENVER BEING ONE OF
THEM.
KAHOOTS BEING ANOTHER ONE.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS
THAT EXIST IN OTHER
JURISDICTIONS WE WANT TO
EXAMINE AND RESEARCH AND
UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WORK AND
WHAT CRITERIA THAT USE TO
DISPATCH CALLS.
THAT'S ONGOING.
WHAT I CAN'T SPEAK TO IS WHAT
HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT I CAN
SPEAK TO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE
SINCE JANUARY.
I DON'T MEAN TO PUSH THE
QUESTION, BUT WE ARE WORKING
VERY VIGILANTLY WITH A BROAD
SWATH OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS,
FOLKS, AND OTHERS IN CENTRAL
STAFF TO DEVELOP EXACTLY THE
UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE
DEVELOPING, IF POSSIBLE, TO
PIVOT TO PILOT.
SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER.
>> WOULDN'T THAT BE THE
POSITIVE?
SHOULDN'T THAT BE THE FIRST
THING WE DO?
LIKE GO AND LOOK AT THE PEER
CITY TO SEE HOW THEY ARE DOING
THE THING WE WANT TO DO?
THAT'S WHAT I JUST DON'T
UNDERSTAND.
>> I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,
IT'S AN IMPORTANT DECISION
POINT TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT
SOMEONE ELSE DOES, BUT I'M NOT
SURE IT'S THIS POSITIVE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW DENVER AND HOW
THEY ARE DOING THEIR THING
SHOULD DICTATE HOW SEATTLE DOES
IT.
IT'S RELATIVE INFORMATION, BUT
IT'S NOT POSITIVE TO HOW WE
WILL ROLL OUT OUR RESOURCES.
BRIAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN
TALK ABOUT DENVER, BUT AS FAR
AS THEY HAVE MORE RESOURCES FOR
MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS
RESPONDING TO CALLS, LIKE IN
THE 50s.
AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A
DIFFERENT FRAMEWORK THAN WHAT
WE HAVE IN THE CURRENT
STRUCTURE IN SEATTLE.
I THINK IT'S ON THE TABLE OF
THINGS WE CAN CONSIDER AND
SOMETHING WE ARE INTERESTED IN.
DENVER HAS BEEN THE MODEL WE
THINK HAS WORKED THUS FAR.
I THINK WE WANT IT TO BE PART
OF THE WORK.
WE WANT THE DATA ANALYSIS AND
>> MOVING ON TO COUNCILMEMBER
--
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, I
THINK BRIAN WAS RESPONDING TO
THE QUESTION.
>> MY BAD, I'M SORRY.
ABSOLUTELY.
>> I HAVE A LITTLE MORE
INFORMATION, COUNCILMEMBER.
WE DID MEET WITH THE DENVER
STAR FOLKS IN BOSTON AS PART OF
THE HARVARD CONFERENCE, AND WE
HAVE BEEN TALKING TO BJ.
THEY WANT TO SEND US OUT THERE
TO FURTHER DIVE INTO THE DATA,
BUT THE SUCCESS IN DENVER,
THERE WERE TWO THINGS I THINK
WERE CRITICAL FROM TALKING WITH
THE DENVER FOLKS AND THE POLICE
CHIEF AS WELL AS THE ACTUAL
RESPONDERS THEMSELVES.
IS THAT THE RESPONDERS, THERE
WAS SORT OF THIS ORGANIC GROUP
THAT CAME TOGETHER AND SAID WE
ARE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING
THIS SERVICE.
WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT OCCUR IN
THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
THE CALLS THEY ARE RESPONDING
TO --
>> GO AHEAD, SORRY.
>> I THINK THEY ARE UP TO
ALMOST 4,000 TOTAL CALLS YEAR
TO DATE, NOT YEAR TO DATE, BUT
PROGRAM TO DATE.
THE THINGS ARE HISTORICALLY
THINGS THAT POLICE DID NOT
PREVIOUSLY RESPOND TO.
A LOT OF -- THEY ACTUALLY
OFFSET THE MEDICAL RESPONSES
AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
WERE JUST UNSERVED LIKE PICKING
UP SYRINGES.
THEY HAVE A DISCREET BODY THAT
RESPONDS TO SUICIDAL CALLS.
OVERLAID ON TOP OF THE STAR,
THE PURE CIVILIAN MENTAL HEALTH
RESPONSE IS THE CORESPONDER
MODEL.
IN DENVER THEY HAVE 32 MENTAL
HEALTH PROVIDERS TO CORESPOND
WITH POLICE.
TO WHAT LAUREN WAS TALKING
ABOUT, THE VARIABILITY OF
WHETHER THE POLICE WILL TAKE
THE LEAD IN THE GIVEN SITUATION
OR THE MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER
WILL TAKE THE LEAD IN THE GIVEN
SITUATION, DETERMINED BY THE
ASSOCIATED RISK AND THE
SITUATION ON THE GROUND.
THEY DID NOT DO A FORMAL RISK
ASSESSMENT LIKE WE ARE DOING.
WE ARE DEFINITELY PUSHING THE
ENVELOPE OF TRYING TO CREATE A
MATURE SYSTEM HERE, WHICH WILL
HOPEFULLY ALLOW FOR THE
TRANSFER OF MORE CALLS.
THEY HAVE A SMALL, DISCREET SET
OF CALLS.
THEY DID WORK WITH THEIR PSAP,
THE 911 CALL CENTER, TO DEVELOP
PROTOCOLS TO DIG DEEPER INTO
THE INCOMING CALLS.
I KNOW CSCC IS WORKING ON THE
PROTOCOLS TO HELP THEM
DETERMINE THE RISK, TOO.
THERE'S A PARALLEL EFFORT THERE
THEY CANNOT SPEAK TO DIRECTLY.
I BELIEVE IT'S UNDERWAY AT
CSCC.
YES, WE ARE WORKING WITH STAR,
AND YES WE HAVE MET WITH THEM.
WE DO UNDERSTAND THEIR SYSTEM.
THERE ARE SOME LOW-HANGING
FRUIT CALLS WE BELIEVE COULD BE
TRANSFERRED TO THE CSOs IF WE
COULD GET THROUGH THE LABOR
ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO A MORE
COMPREHENSIVE AND MATURE
RESPONSE.
TO WALK BACK SOMETHING I
REFERRED EARLIER, THE NIC JR.
REPORT REFERRED TO AS
IRRESPONSIBLE.
INCOMPLETE IS A BETTER WORD.
I MEANT WHOLESALE ADOPTION OF
THAT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE FOR
THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
>> A BRIEF FOLLOWUP, MADAM
CHAIR, VERY BRIEF.
>> I APPRECIATE THE OVERVIEW.
I'M GLAD THAT THE DEPARTMENT
AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ARE
LOOKING AT AN EXISTING PROGRAM.
I WOULD SAY I THINK THERE'S A
CERTAIN PRACTICALITY IN
EXAMINING THE EXISTING
FUNCTIONING MODEL IN A PEER
CITY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT
COMPLETELY RESPONSIVE.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING I THINK IS
AN IMPORTANT CONTEXT FOR THE
OTHERWISE DATA-DRIVEN SYSTEM.
I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE
DOING SOMETHING THAT IS BASED
ON SOMETHING BEING SUCCESSFUL
SOMEWHERE ELSE THAN YOU KNOW
COMPLETELY SOMETHING BEING
CONCEIVED FROM THE GROUND UP.
I ALSO JUST WANT TO -- LIKE
BRIAN YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT
DOES NOT COMPLETELY ACCORD WITH
MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE STAR
PROGRAM THAT MAYBE WE COULD
LOOK INTO TO CLARIFY.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FROM
THE 2700 CALLS THE PILOT DID,
THE DEPARTMENT IN DENVER
IDENTIFIED 2, 294 OF THOSE
WOULD HAVE BEEN RESPONDED TO BY
POLICE OTHERWISE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S PURELY SORT
OF DOING FUNCTIONS THAT ARE
AKIN TO WHAT THE MID MAY DO.
I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST
CLEANING UP NEEDLES OR DOING,
YOU KNOW, DISTRIBUTING BOTTLED
WATER OR SOMETHING.
I THINK THEY ARE RESPONDING TO
THINGS THAT DENVER POLICE WAS
RESPONDING TO BEFORE, AND
THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF THE
PLAN TO SCALE IT TO ANNUAL
10,000 CALLS A YEAR.
THE LAST THING I -- I WOULD
LIKE US TO CHECK INTO THAT
BECAUSE, I MEAN I OBVIOUSLY
DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, BUT
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE SEEN
REPORTED AND INDICATED IN THEIR
DATA.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS
THEY HAVE HEARD A VERY LARGE
AMOUNT OF ENTREPRENEURIAL
INTEREST FROM DIFFERENT
PROVIDER ORGANIZATIONS IN DOING
SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN SEATTLE.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT BEEN GETTING
THROUGH, KIND OF TO THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE.
I COULD MAYBE TRANSMIT A COUPLE
OF THE LEADS FOR CONSIDERATION
TO BE INTEGRATED INTO HOW THE
EXECUTIVE SIDE FOLKS ARE
THINKING OF THIS AND MAYBE
GETTING PROFFERS IN WHAT THE
IMPLEMENTATION VISION WOULD
LOOK LIKE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE REACHED OUT.
THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY TO
SHARE THEY FOUND INTERESTING.
IN DENVER, WHERE THEY DO HAVE,
YOU KNOW, A MATURING RESPONSE
ALTERNATIVE, THEY HAVE BEEN
LOSING FEWER POLICE FROM
ATTRITION.
I MEAN, EVERYONE IS LOSING
POLICE THROUGH ATTRITION, BUT
DENVER IS LOSING FEWER.
IN 2019, DENVER LOST 100
OFFICERS.
IN 2020, GENERALLY A HIGH-WATER
MARK FOR DEPARTURES, THEY LOST
81.
THAT'S FEWER THAN IN 2019.
I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING
LOOK AT THE ATTRITION DYNAMICS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ATTRIBUTE
IT TO.
I FOUND IT TO BE AN INTERESTING
CORRELATION.
IN ANY EVENT, I APPRECIATE THAT
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS BEING
LOOKED AT.
I WILL SHARE SOME OF THE
RESOURCES, BRIAN, WITH YOU AND
ANDREW, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
EXPRESSED LOCAL INTEREST AND
APPRECIATE THERE'S INTEREST
FROM THE PANEL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.
BEFORE WE MOVE OVER TO
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, GREG,
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD
HERE?
>> YEAH, I DID.
I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP A BIT
WITH WHAT COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS
WAS ASKING, AND TO SAY THAT
WHEN LOOKING AT PROGRAMS AND
SERVICES THEY OFFER, YOU KNOW,
I THINK IT'S TRUE THAT THERE
ARE SERVICES THAT ARE PICKED UP
IN THE COMMUNITY THAT POLICE
OFFICERS ARE NOT DOING NOW, BUT
THERE ARE ALSO SERVICES THAT
ARE BEING PICKED UP THAT POLICE
OFFICERS WOULD HAVE TO DO, AND
I THINK THAT'S A POINT THAT
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS IS MAKING.
I THINK YOU SEE THAT NOWHERE
BETTER THAN IN EUGENE WITH
KAHOOTS.
IN KAHOOTS, YOU HAVE MENTAL
HEALTH PROVIDERS RESPONDING TO
NOT CSO ADMINISTRATOR TYPES,
BUT YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE
TRAINED IN MENTAL AND
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONDING TO
A PERSON DOWN AND WELLNESS
CHECK CALLS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN
FOR 30 SOME YEARS, CALLS THAT
HAVE NOT BEEN GOING TO EUGENE
POLICE THAT OTHERWISE WOULD
HAVE BEEN GOING TO EUGENE
POLICE AND WOULD GO TO EUGENE
POLICE.
I THINK WHAT YOU CAN SEE THERE
IS AN EVALUATION OF A PROGRAM
WHERE YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS INTO
FACTOR, AND YOU HAVE TO FACTOR
IN THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS,
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT
YOU CAN ALLEVIATE THE STRESS
FROM POLICE WITH ALTERNATIVE
RESPONSE, AND THAT, IN DEED,
THEY ARE PICKING UP SERVICES
POLICE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO.
I JUST WANT TO ECHO
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS' RESPONSES
WITH THAT EXPERIENCE IN
KAHOOTS.
>> THANK YOU, GREG.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, JUST
WRAPPING UP THIS TRAIN OF
THOUGHT HERE BEFORE MOVING ON
TO YOU, I DO JUST WANT TO FLAG
THAT WE DO HAVE THE DOWNTOWN
EMERGENCY SERVICE CENTERS
MOBILE CRISIS TEAMS THAT
CURRENTLY ARE NOT BEING
DISPATCHED FROM 911, BUT THEY
RESPOND TO WHEN FIRST
RESPONDERS CALL THEM, AND THAT,
I THINK, IS A REALLY GOOD
EXAMPLE OF A LOCAL PROGRAM THAT
COULD POTENTIALLY BE DISPATCHED
FROM 911.
I ALSO WANT TO -- THANK YOU,
BRIAN, FOR RECOGNIZING ONE OF
THE LESSONS LEARNED THUS FAR
AFTER THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN
DONE IS THAT THE ABILITY OF
EITHER CSOs OR THE COUNTY'S
EMERGENCY SERVICE PATROL TO
TACKLE SOME SUBSET OF THE
PRIORITY THREE CALLS AND JUST
WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEY THINK A
LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE OF
PHILOSOPHY HERE ABOUT WHETHER
OR NOT WE DO -- WE DO THE FULL
ON ANALYSIS OR WHETHER OR NOT
WE WORK TO TRY TO DO SOME LOW-
HANGING FRUIT, THINGS WE ALL
AGREE CAN BE DONE, AND WE ALL
AGREE IS RIGHT NOW LOW RISK TO
CALLS THAT CSOs ARE ALREADY
RESPONDING TO IN CASES.
AGAIN, JUST THEY ARE RESPONDING
BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING CALLED
FROM POLICE OFFICERS WHO DON'T
NEED TO BE GOING TO THE SCENE
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO REALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
US SORT OF STAGE OUR WORK HERE,
RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL WE
HAVE A FINAL PRODUCT, BUT
THAT'S -- THOSE ARE
CONVERSATIONS THEY KNOW WE WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE WITHIN THE
WORK GROUP, SO THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAME
CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION,
AND THANK YOU FOR THE CHAIR
ASKING IT TO BE POSTED
PUBLICALLY.
UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T GET TO
DIVE INTO THE DETAILS BEFORE.
THANK YOU FOR THE ANALYSIS.
KNOW THAT THIS IS A POINT IN
TIME OF THE PREVIEW OF THE
CONVERSATIONS TO COME.
JUST WANT TO NOTE THE
APPRECIATION FOR YOU.
I DO, HOWEVER, WANT TO COME
BACK TO THE WORD THAT WAS USED
EARLIER AND APPRECIATE THE
CLARIFICATION THAT HAS BEEN
OFFERED, BUT THE WORD
IRRESPONSIBLE WAS USED TWICE IN
REFERENCE TO NIC JR., AND NOT
RESPONSIBLE WAS USED ONCE.
I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO
CLARIFY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WHO MAY BE CONFUSED
ABOUT THE COMMENTS THAT THE
QUESTION THAT THE NATIONAL
RESEARCH BODY -- IT'S A
RESEARCH BODY THAT WE HAVE
WORKED WITH, AND IN FACT THE
REPORT FROM THE NATIONAL
INSTITUTE FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM KNOWN AS NI C.J.
R SAYS THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT CONTRACTED WITH
NICJR FOR THE CALL FOR SERVICES
FROM THE PERIOD OF 2017 TO
2019.
IT'S NOT JUST SOME EXTERNAL
THIRD PARTY, YOU KNOW ENTITY
THAT DOES NOT HAVE
CREDITABILITY.
THIS IS A GROUP THAT HAS GONE
INTO CONTRACTS AND PARTNERSHIPS
WITH CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS
LIKE WASHINGTON, D.C., OAKLAND,
PORTLAND, OREGON, INDIANAPOLIS,
INDIANA.
THEY WORKED WITH AN ARRAY OF
ORGANIZATIONS ANNOUNCING A
PARTNERSHIP AT THE NATIONAL
LEVEL LIKE WITH CENTER FOR
AMERICAN PROGRESS TO REDUCE GUN
VIOLENCE AND PROMOTE THE USE OF
NONARMED OFFICERS FOR
RESPONSES.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
CLARIFY THE CREDIBILITY THAT
THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE HAS AT THE
NATIONAL LEVEL AND WITHIN OUR
OWN CITY.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M
HEARING A QUESTION WHETHER OR
NOT THE 12% OF CALLS WE HAD
INITIALLY AGREED COULD BE
CALLED OFFLOADED TO NONARMED
OFFICERS IS NOW INTO QUESTION,
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
US TO WORK TOWARDS MOVING
FORWARD TO SOLUTIONS TOGETHER,
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE ARE NOT QUESTIONING THE VERY
ENTITY THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTED
WITH IN THE PAST.
I THINK THE WAY LAUREN, FOR
EXAMPLE, PHRASED IT PUBLICALLY
HERE, AND THE SENTIMENT
CAPTURED IN THE PAGE AND A HALF
RESPONSE, BUT THE MORE
APPROPRIATE ANALYSIS, IT'S A
FIRST CUT, A GREAT WAY TO BEGIN
THE CONVERSATION, AND THOSE ARE
THE TWO COMMENTS I REALLY HEARD
AND DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE
IMPORTANT ROLE THAT THE
NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM SHOULD HAVE WITH
THE ANALYSIS GOING FORWARD.
I WILL AGAIN ASK WE HAVE A
COMMITMENT TO HAVE THE ANALYSIS
THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE,
RECOGNIZING THE RESPONSE AT THE
POINT IN TIME, HAVING THE
ANALYSIS BE REVIEWED BY A THIRD
PARTY.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE'S A
QUESTIONING OF THE CREDIBILITY
OR THE METHODOLOGY THAT NICJR
USED AND WE WANT THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE THIRD PARTY
TO PROVIDE THE ANALYSIS WHEN WE
COMPLETE IT.
AS FOR THE RECORD THAT SHOULD
BE CLEAR FROM THE SLIDE
REQUEST, NO ONE, ESPECIALLY NO
ONE ON COUNCIL HAS BEEN
SUGGESTING WE ADOPT THE NICJR
REPORT IN CALL.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE
RESPONSE, AND THAT'S WHY YOU
WILL SEE MORE CONVERSATIONS IT
COME ON THIS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET
OUT THERE, AGAIN IN THE
INTEREST OF HAVING A THIRD
PARTY DO AN ANALYSIS OF
WHATEVER REPORT COMES FORWARD
FROM THE INTERNAL DEEP DIVE.
>> LET ME SAY BEFORE I KICK IT
OVER TO LAUREN, THANK YOU, I
THINK THAT'S GOOD
CLARIFICATION.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
NO DISAGREEMENT ON THE
EXECUTIVE SIDE OF, YOU KNOW,
HOW REPUTABLE THE ORGANIZATION
IS.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS?
>> THANK YOU, SO MUCH, MADAME
CHAIR.
I THINK IT'S BEEN A GOOD
DISCUSSION TODAY.
I APPRECIATE WE ARE GETTING
INTO THE THIS PART OF THE WORK.
ONE THING TO EMPHASIZE, WE HAVE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LOW
ACUITY FIRST RESPONSE, BUT I
DON'T WANT TO LOSE TRACK
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WITH
COST WHEN WE HAVE SPD OFFICERS
DOING THINGS THAT OTHER FOLKS
CAN DO, GIVEN THE CURRENT
STAFFING CRISIS WE ARE FACING,
AND GIVEN THE ALLOCATION OF
RESOURCES, AND EVERY TIME I GO
TO A MARINERS' GAME, AND I SEE
THE SPD OFFICERS DIRECTING
TRAFFIC.
I'M LIKE, I WOULD MUCH RATHER
SEE THAT OVERTIME SHIFT BE A
BURGLARY EMPHASIS IN A SMALL
BUSINESS DISTRICT.
RIGHT?
WHENEVER I SEE OFFICERS
AUGMENTING THE PARKS EMPLOYEES
FOR AN ENENCAMPMENT REMOVAL
WHEN WE KNOW IT CAN BE DONE
WITHOUT TAKING UP POLICE
RESOURCES, THEY COULD WALK THE
BEAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
BUSINESS DISTRICT INSTEAD RIGHT
NOW.
RIGHT?
I REALLY DO THINK IT HAS TO BE
PART OF THE EQUATION WHERE WE
ARE GOING TO PIVOT TO, YOU
KNOW, THE AGENDA ITEM NEXT
TALKING ABOUT HIRING, WHICH WE
NEED TO DO, AND I APPRECIATE
THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHAIR AND
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IN CUEING
UP THE CONSIDERATION, BUT IT'S
ALSO PART OF THE EQUATION, WE
HAVE BIG OPPORTUNITY COSTS, AND
WE ARE ELECTING TO HAVE
OFFICERS DO THINGS OTHER PEOPLE
COULD DO WHEN WE NEED THEM TO
DO THE THINGS ONLY THEY CAN DO.
I CONTINUE THAT TO BE PART OF
THE PROJECT AND APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATION AS MOVING US
TOWARDS THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WHAT WE WANT TO BE CLEAR
ABOUT IS THIS THE OPENING
DISCUSSION.
WE WERE FOCUSED ON THE DATA AND
WHERE WE ARE ON THE DATA.
A ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMEMBER,
IT'S A PROPOSITION.
I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE ON THE
SAME PAGE.
WE WANT TO BE INNOVATIVE,
COLLABORATE, AND CREATE
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES TO TAKE
THE CALLS WE SHOULD NOT BE
SENDING OFFICERS TO.
WE WANT TO BE DELIBERATIVE, BUT
WE WANT TO CREATE WHAT MAKES
SENSE.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.
I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE WE ARE
TRYING TO DO THE WORK WELL, AND
THE ADMINISTRATION IS DOING THE
WORK DIFFERENTLY.
I DO APOLOGIZE WE MAY BE MOVING
BACKWARDS TO MOVE FORWARDS.
I HOPE WE WILL MAKE IT UP IN
THE FACT WE WANT TO COLLABORATE
WITH THE COUNCIL TO DO IT
TOGETHER, NOT SEPARATELY.
>> THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO RESTATE
SOMETHING I ALREADY SAID, BUT
PUT IT WITHIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY
CONTEXT THAT COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS JUST SAID.
ONE OF THE LESSONS FROM NOTES I
HAVE RECEIVED FROM MEETINGS
THAT YOU HAVE BEEN HAVING WITH
CENTRAL STAFF, ONE OF THE
LESSONS LEARNED, IT'S ACTUALLY
CONSISTENT WITH THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE PRIOR
ADMINISTRATION FOR THE CREATION
OF WHAT WAS MEN BEING CALLED,
AND ONE.
THOSE WERE THE PERSON DOWN AND
WELLNESS CALLS, AND THIS
EXECUTIVE RECOGNIZES THAT SOME
OF THE CALLS CAN BE HANDLED BY
CSOs, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO STAND
UP WITH ONE, BUT WE NEED TO
FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ALLOW CSOs
TO TAKE THOSE CALLS, AND THAT
IS A SUBSET OF THE 12%.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT 4,000 CALLS.
WE SHOULD GET MOVING ON
ALTERNATE RESPONSE FOR THAT --
FOR THOSE CALLS THAT YOU GUYS
ACKNOWLEDGE ARE CALLS THAT CSOs
ARE CURRENTLY HANDLING, AND
THEY COULD HANDLE IF DISPATCHED
OFF 911.
THE CSCC ACKNOWLEDGES THAT
ALTHOUGH THEY ARE REALLY
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
ACQUISITION OF THE NEW
PROTOCOLS, THE RFP IS OUT NOW,
AND TRAINING, AND IMPLEMENTING
THE NEW PROTOCOLS,
AND THEY COULD DO THE DISPATCH
TO CSOs.
RECOGNIZE THERE'S LABOR ISSUES,
BUT I THINK WE NEED A STAGED
APPROACH TO GET GOING ON THIS
STUFF NOW.
IT WILL ALLOW OUR POLICE
OFFICERS TO BE SPENDING THEIR
TIME ON THE THINGS THAT ONLY
THEY CAN DO.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA, MAYBE FIRST LAUREN
BECAUSE I THINK HE IS
RESPONDING TO SOMETHING THAT
WAS SAID, AND THEN
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WE ARE
ACTUALLY CONTRACTED WITH THE
COUNCIL OF STATE GOVERNMENTS TO
DO QUALITY ASSURANCE.
THEY ARE THE THIRD PARTY
QUALITY ASSURANCE PARTNERS.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK TO
THAT QUESTION.
THAT WAS PART OF MY FOLLOWUP.
CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT
MORE WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHAT
THEIR ROLE IS?
ARE WE DOING THE INTERNAL
ANALYSIS, AND THE FINAL PRODUCT
IS SHARED WITH THEM, AND THEY
DO VETTING, AND THEN IT'S THE
FINAL.
JUST SO I'M CLEAR, WHAT IS THE
TIME LINE FOR FILLING OUT AND
POPULATING THIS MATRIX WITH THE
FOUR CALL TYPES WITH THE DATA.
>> ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
WHENEVER THERE'S A LARGE
PROJECT THAT HAS SOME SORT OF
MAJOR POLICY IMPLICATIONS FOR
THE WAY WE RESPOND TO THINGS,
WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE
A THIRD QUALITY ASSURANCE
VENDOR WITH US.
THE COUNCIL OF STATE
GOVERNMENTS IS INTEGRATED WITH
THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, AND THEY
ATTEND REGULAR MEETINGS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A PAUSE.
WE HAVE BEEN IN A PAUSE FOR A
WEEK AND A HALF NOW AS WE ARE
WAITING FOR ITD TO CATCH UP
WITH DATA DEVELOPMENT, BUT AS
SOON AS THAT DATA IS PACK IN
OUR HANDS -- BECAUSE WE DON'T
WANT TO BURN THEIR FUNDS, WE
WILL PICK UP WITH THE WEEKLY
MEETINGS AGAIN.
THEY FOLLOW ALONG WITH EACH
STAGE, AND I ASKED THEM TO
RESPOND TO THREE DISCREET
QUESTIONS.
ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE
CONFIDENCE WE CAN HAVE IN
RELATING THE ADVERSE EVENT TO
THE POLICE RESPONSE.
THE ADDITIONAL PIECE IS RELATED
TO THE CLUSTERING, AND THE
QUESTION OF LIKELIHOOD, IT'S
KIND OF AN OPEN QUESTION, AND
INITIALLY WE WILL LOOK FOR
NATURAL CLUSTERING IN THE DATA.
WE DO RECOGNIZE, HOWEVER, THAT
BEARS SOME WEIGHIN FROM STAKE
HOLDERS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS,
AND THAT MAY CHANGE.
I WOULD ASK THEM TO WEIGH IN ON
THE MATH BEHIND THE CLUSTERING,
AND THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE
ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PARAMETER.
SPECIFICALLY THE LOADING OF THE
DIFFERENT CELLS IN THE RISK
MATRIX, AND THE FINAL QUESTION,
AFTER WE ASSESS THE LEVEL OF
EFFORT NECESSARY, TECHNICALLY
NECESSARY TO ASSIST CSCC AND
CONFIDENTIAL IDENTIFY THE CALL
RESPONSE TIERS, THEY WILL BE
BACKING US UP ON THE APPROACH.
THE APPROACH IS GOING TO BE
CONFRONTATIONAL IN NATURE.
IT'S A COMPLICATED PIECE OF
MATH AND PROCESSING, AND THEY
WILL ALSO BACK US UP ON THAT.
THEY FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND WE RUN
THE HYBRID, AGILE DEVELOPMENT
IN THE RESEARCH.
THEY ARE ALSO FOCUSED ON THE
THREE DISCREET QUESTIONS THAT
WE HAVE.
THEY WILL BE DIGGING INTO THE
MATH, METHODS, AND
IMPLICATIONS, AND THEN
RENDERING THE FINAL REPORT FOR
INFORMING US OF WHETHER THE WAY
FORWARD WE HAVE SELECTED IS
ADVISABLE OR NOT, AND OFFERING
SUGGESTIONS FOR THE FUTURE.
THAT'S FAIRLY TYPICAL FOR THIS
ENGAGEMENT.
I APOLOGIZE, IN TERMS OF THE
ROAD MAP, AS SOON AS THE DATA
IS PREPARED, WE WILL POPULATE
THE MATRIX, AND THE PROJECTED
TIME LINE FOR THAT IS EMINENT,
THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND
THE IDEA IS THAT IT WILL BE
AVAILABLE FOR THE JULY REPORT,
AND THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL
DEPENDENCIES ON ITD, AND THAT'S
AN OPEN RISK FOR US.
ONCE THAT IS DONE, COUNCIL
CHAIR, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
YOUR WISH THAT WE PROCEED IN A█
PIECE OR ON MULTIPLE FRONTS.
WE ARE NOT WATERFALL.
WE PREFER THE AGILE APPROACH,
MEANING NOT NECESSARILY A
LINEAR STEP THROUGH, BUT
MULTIPLE PARALLEL PATHS TO GET
US THERE AT THE SAME TIME IN AN
EFFICIENT CAPACITY.
THE DIRECTOR HAS LED THAT
DIRECTION IN TERMS OF MAKING
SURE WE ARE BUILDING CAPACITY
STRATEGICALLY BASED ON THE
EVIDENCE WHILE THE TECHNICAL
EFFORT TO OPERATIONALLIZE THE
ANALYSIS IS ONGOING AT THE SAME
TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> UH-UH.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR HERBOLD.
THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR LIFTING
UP THE IMPORTANT RESEARCH.
APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
BEING HEE TO REPORT ON THE
PROGRESS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
I THINK THE THEME WE ARE
HEARING HERE, WE WANT THE
ALTERNATIVES IN PLACE AS SOON
AS POSSIBLE, AND FOR AN
APPROPRIATE SUBSET OF THE 911
EMERGENCY RESPONSE CALLS, AND
SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW,
I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUES
SAYING LET'S DUAL TRACK THIS.
LET'S DO THE PILOT AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE, AND ACKNOWLEDGING
THAT WE DO HAVE THIS MATRIX OF
OTHER EFFORTS HAPPENING WITH
TREAGE HEALTH ONE, COMMUNITY
SERVICE OFFICERS, DSC MOBILE
CRISIS RESPONSE UNIT, AND COULD
WE GET A DATE ON NEXT STEPS?
WHEN WILL THIS ANALYSIS BE
FINISHED?
AND HOW SOON DO YOU THINK YOU
COULD ROLL OUT A PILOT THAT IS
INTEGRATED?
I WAS READING OAKLAND,
CALIFORNIA, JUST LAUNCHED THEIR
PILOT LAST MONTH, AND YOU KNOW,
IN ADDITION TO HAVING KAHOOTS
OUT THERE AND DENVER STAR FOR A
LONG TIME.
COULD WE GET SOME DATES SO THAT
WE CAN THEN KNOW, AND THE
PUBLIC CAN KNOW WHEN TO FOLLOW
UP ON THIS?
>> I UNDERSTAND THE NEXT STAGE
WILL BE A REPORT, THE SECOND
QUARTER REPORT IN JULY, AND
WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT IT
WILL INCLUDE THE DATA, BUT I AM
NOT QUITE SURE WHAT COMES NEXT.
>> WELL, LET ME JUMP IN THERE
QUICKLY.
THE EMINENT DEADLINE, THAT'S
WHAT WE ARE HOPING.
WE WILL SEE THE DATA EMINENTLY.
AFTER THAT POINT, I THINK WHAT
WE ARE PLANNING AND
COLLABORATIVELY PLANNING TO DO,
TO HAVE STAKEHOLDERS COMING TO
THE TABLE FROM A VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND PLACES
INCLUDING CENTRAL STAFF AND THE
COUNCIL TO TALK THROUGH THE
RISK OF THE CALLS, AND WHAT WE
ARE COMFORTABLE AS A CITY
SHIFTING, AND THEN, YOU KNOW,
WE ARE BUILDING OUT THE
RESEARCH AND THE MODELING
AROUND WHAT COULD TAKE ON SOME
OF THE CALLS, AND WHILE AT THE
SAME TIME, PIVOTING WHAT WE CAN
PIVOT.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I THINK
JULY WOULD BE A GREAT -- I
MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT
DEADLINE FOR THE STATUS UPDATE.
I'M HOPEFUL WE WILL GET THINGS
MOVING BEFORE JULY.
COUNCILMEMBER, I DON'T
NECESSARILY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR
YOU RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS WHAT
THE DATES ARE.
WE CAN PROVIDE A SUPPLEMENTAL
RESPONSE TO THE GROUP, JUST TO
SAY HERE'S -- HERE ARE SOME OF
THE TIME LINES AND WHAT WE ARE
HOPING TO DO IN STANDING UP THE
WORK GROUPS AND COLLABORATIVE
WORK TOGETHER.
>> THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
GREAT.
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE, REALLY APPRECIATE
IT.
APPRECIATE HEARING THAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION IS COMMITTED TO
DOING THIS WORK AND COMMITTED
TO DOING IT COLLABORATIVELY SO
WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER.
REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS, AND WE WILL MOVE
ON TO THE NEXT ITEM
>> BEFORE WE GET STARTED,
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR
RESOLUTION OR HAVE CENTRAL
STAFF DESCRIBE IT?
.
>> YOU ARE MUTED.
SORRY.
>> I WILL SPEAK TO IT AND THEN
CENTRAL STAFF CAN PICK UP THE
PIECES.
I AM CHAIR OF THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT TECHNOLOGY AND CITY
LIGHT COMMITTEE.
I AM SUPPOSED TO BE FOCUSED ON
HELPING OUR ECONOMY RECOVER AS
WE EMERGE FROM THIS PANDEMIC.
PRIORITIES FOR MY COMMITTEE
INCLUDE DOWNTOWN AND
NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT
REVITALIZATION AND REDUCING
DISPLACEMENT OF SMALL
BUSINESSES IN AREAS OF OUR CITY
UNDERGOING RAPID
GENTRIFICATION.
WHY AM I DOING THIS?
ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND SINCE
TAKING OFFICE, I HAVE HEARD THE
SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
RESIDENTS DON'T FEEL SAFE.
911 CALL RESPONSE TIMES ARE
THROUGH THE ROOF.
BUSINESSES ARE CLOSING BECAUSE
OF CRIME.
THE PLAIN FACT IS WE CAN'T
ACHIEVE RECOVERY UNLESS WE
IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
THAT SHOULD BE OUR ONLY JOB.
THAT'S WHY I AM PUTTING THIS
FORWARD TODAY.
MY RESOLUTION MAKES THE CASE
FOR TAKING URGENT ACTION TO
ADDRESS THE CITY'S ESCALATING
RATES OF VIOLENT AND PROPERTY
CRIME AMID, THE SEVERE STAFFING
SHORTAGE.
IDENTIFIES TOOL USED BY
VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER IN OUR
REGION TO ACCELERATE HIRING OF
NEW OFFICERS.
CLEARLY SEATTLE IS NOT THE ONLY
CITY SCRAMBLING FOR LABOR.
PARTLY BECAUSE OF LOW MORALE,
OUR CITY HAS LOST MORE THAN ANY
OTHER CITY.
ABOUT 400 SINCE JANUARY 2020.
THOSE ARE OFFICERS IN SERVICE.
FULLY TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED
OFFICERS ARE LEAVING SPD FOR
NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS.
SO I LEARNED SOMETHING WHEN I
WAS TALKING TO AN OFFICER I MET
A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
HE SAID WHEN AN OFFICER IN SPD
APPLIES FOR LATERAL POSITION IN
NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION, THEY
HAVE TO GET THE SIGN OFF
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM FELLOW
OFFICERS.
HE TOLD ME HE HAD FILLED OUT
THREE IN JUST ONE WEEK.
I THINK THOSE OFFICERS WERE
GOING TO, IF MY MEMORY IS
CORRECT, SAMMAMISH, EVERETT,
AND SNOHOMISH.
PUYALLUP, SAMMAMISH, EVERETT.
THOSE AS WELL AS OTHERS USING
HIRING RECRUITS FOR OFFICERS.
TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD TO
LIMIT THE APPLICANTS SEATTLE
MUST DO THE SAME AND IMPLEMENT
A SIMILAR PROGRAM.
MY RESOLUTION SETS STAGE FOR
RELEASING RESTRICTED FUNDS IN
SPD BUDGET TO PAY FOR
INCENTIVES AND OTHER
RECRUITMENT SUPPORT STRATEGIES.
THAT'S IT.
WHEN I PUT THIS FORWARD IN
MARCH '23, I FRANKLY DIDN'T
CARE THE SPECIFICS OF THE
INCENTIVE PROGRAM, HOW MUCH
MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT ON IT,
WHAT THE DETAILS SHOULD BE.
I FIGURED I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO
THE EXECUTIVE TO DEVISE A
SYSTEM THAT WILL BE COMPETITIVE
AND THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD
LATER APPROVE.
I SIMPLY WANTED TO PROVIDE THE
POLICY FRAMEWORK TO DISCUSS
WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY AND
GIVE OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR
CONSTITUENTS A CHANCE TO WEIGH
IN.
THIS RESOLUTION IS THE
NECESSARY FIRST STEP TOWARD THE
ACTION WE'LL HOPEFULLY BE
TAKING LATER THIS MEETING.
DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO ANYTHING
I HAVE SAID OR I WILL NOW
ANSWER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
ALY, GREG.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL
MEMBERS, CHAIR HERBOLD.
I AM ALY PENNUCCI.
GREG IS AVAILABLE IF NECESSARY
BUT IS DOING DOUBLE DUTY.
IF THERE IS A QUESTION, I WILL
NEED A MINUTE TO GET HIM FULLY
BACK ONLINE BUT I THINK WE CAN
PROBABLY COVER IT WITH MYSELF
AND YOU ALL IN THIS DISCUSSION
TODAY.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON DID A GOOD
JOB OF DESCRIBING THE INTENT OF
THE RESOLUTION.
I THINK SHE WENT INTO MORE
DETAILS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN
THE RECITALS EXPRESSING SOME OF
THE POLICY GOALS AND BACKGROUND
INFORMATION.
THE RESOLUTION AS SHE DESCRIBED
IS REALLY EXPRESSING COUNCIL'S
INTENT IF ADOPTED TO SUPPORT
STAFFING INCENTIVE PROGRAMS.
IT WOULD PROVIDE CLEAR
DIRECTION TO THE EXECUTIVE THAT
THE COUNCIL IS WILLING TO
CONSIDER MODIFYING OR LIFTING
PROVISO TO RELEASE SOME OF THE
FUNDS RESTRICTED BY COUNCIL'S
BUDGET ACTION THIS FALL IN
ADOPTING 2022 BUDGET TO SUPPORT
THE STAFFING INCENTIVE
PROGRAMS.
I WON'T JUMP FULLY AHEAD TO THE
NEXT ITEM BUT WE'LL KNOW THE
RESOLUTION AND COUNCIL BILL
KIND OF WORK HAND IN HAND.
RESOLUTION WOULD SET HIGH LEVEL
POLICY INTENT AND COUNCIL BILL
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD PROPOSED
IS A STEP TO IMPLEMENTING A
SPECIFIC PROGRAM UNDER THE
AUTHORIZATION.
I WILL LEAVE IT THERE.
THERE IS ONE AMENDMENT I AM
HAPPY TO DESCRIBE AT THE
CHAIR'S DIRECTION.
>> THANK YOU, ALY.
BEFORE WE GET THE RESOLUTION
BEFORE US AND BEGIN DISCUSSING
AMENDMENTS, ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BASE
RESOLUTION?
SEEING NONE, AND MAYBE THERE
WILL BE AS WE GO THROUGH THE
CONVERSATION, COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE
RESOLUTION 32050?
>> SO MOVED.
>> IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 32050.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, DO YOU
HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ABOUT
BASE LEGISLATION BEFORE WE MOVE
ON TO DISCUSSION OF THE
AMENDMENT?
>> NO.
I WILL PROVIDE CLOSING COMMENTS
BEFORE THE VOTE.
>> PERFECT.
THANK YOU.
SO I HAVE PROPOSED AMENDMENT 1
TO THE RESOLUTION.
I MOVE AMENDMENT 1. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND
RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT 1. ALY, CAN YOU
PLEASE DESCRIBE AMENDMENT 1?
>> YES.
THANK YOU.
IS MY SCREEN SHARING WORKING
OKAY?
>> IT IS.
>> GREAT.
AMENDMENT 1 PROPOSED BY
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WOULD
MODIFY PROPOSALLING SIGNALING
COUNCIL'S INTENT TO MODIFY
PROVISO.
SPECIFICALLY WOULD ONLY RELEASE
AMOUNTS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT
...
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT SOME OF THE
2022 SALARY SAVINGS IS ONE OF
THE STRATEGIES TO HELP MITIGATE
PROJECTED GAP BETWEEN GENERAL
FUND EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES
PROJECTED IN 2023 AND BEYOND.
WHAT I HAVE ON THE SCREEN HERE
IS THE AFFECT STATEMENT.
THEN I WILL SCROLL DOWN SO YOU
CAN SEE WHAT THE SPECIFIC TEXT
CHANGES PROPOSED IN THIS
AMENDMENT WOULD DO.
AS WE PREFER TO THE SORT OF
PROJECTED 2023 BUDGET
CHALLENGES THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN
DISCUSSING AT LAST WEEK'S
FINANCE AND HOUSING COMMITTEE,
THE MAKE UP IS THE SAME AS THIS
COMMITTEE SO YOU WERE ALL
BRIEFED WHERE WE STAND.
I WON'T SAY MORE ABOUT THAT NOW
BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD HERE.
I JUST WANTED TO PROPOSE THIS
LANGUAGE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE
DO HAVE 2023 BUDGET CONSTRAINTS
AND THAT THAT IS A
CONSIDERATION BEFORE THE
COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO
ADOPTION OF FUTURE LEGISLATION
TO SUPPORT STAFFING AND
RECRUITMENT INCENTIVES.
I KNOW THEY'RE CONSIDERATIONS
OF THE EXECUTIVE AS WELL.
ALSO IN RECOGNITION THAT RIGHT
NOW IN THIS POINT OF TIME, THE
VALUE OF THE BUDGET PROVISO,
SALARY SAVINGS IS BETWEEN 4.1
AND $4.5 MILLION.
IT MAY INCREASE IN VALUE IF THE
ABILITY TO HIRE OFFICERS
CONSISTENT WITH THE NOW REVISED
HIRING PLAN CONTINUES TO SLIP.
AND SO THE LANGUAGE AS WRITTEN
PRESUMED THAT WE WERE GOING TO
MAKE ALL THE MONEY AVAILABLE IN
SALARY SAVINGS FOR THIS
PURPOSE, AND THIS GIVES US SOME
OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF RIGHT
SIZE THAT INVESTMENT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
AMENDMENT?
COMMENT?
>> COUNCILMAN MOSQUEDA.
>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
MADAM CHAIR, I APPRECIATE THE
AMENDMENT THAT YOU ARE BRINGING
FORWARD HERE.
I DO INTEND TO VOTE YES TO
SUPPORT YOUR AMENDMENT.
I WILL HOWEVER UNDERSCORE MY
CONCERNS WITH THE UNDERLYING
LEGISLATION.
I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT
BECAUSE I DO HAVE TO CARE ABOUT
POLICY DETAILS.
I DO CARE ABOUT THE IMPACT ON
OUR OVERALL BUDGET.
I DO CARE ABOUT HOW SPENDING IN
ONE CATEGORY AFFECTS SPENDING
IN ANY OTHER CATEGORY IN OUR
CITY BUDGET.
THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS
BUDGET MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE
FINANCE COMMITTEE AND ALL OF US
HEARD THAT THE GAP THAT WE ARE
CURRENTLY FACING, WHILE IT HAS
SHRUNK FROM APPROXIMATELY 148
MILLION TO ABOUT $35 MILLION
THANKS IN LARGE PART TO CENTRAL
STAFF'S DEEP DIVE ANALYSIS,
THANKS FOR WORKING IN
COLLABORATION WITH DIRECTOR OF
OUR OFFICE, STILL HAVE A MULTI
MILLION DOLLAR GAITHERSBURG
MANY FOR 2023, 2024 BUDGET
YEARS AND OUT YEARS.
IN LARGE PART IT WAS FILLED
WITH JUMP START FUNDS THAT
HELPED MAKE SURE WE WERE NOT IN
THE RED IN 2020 AND 2021, 2022.
HOWEVER, WE ARE VERY MUCH
NEEDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
CLOSE THAT GAP.
AS YOU HEARD THE DIRECTOR FROM
CITY BUDGET'S OFFICE SAY IN OUR
FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, WE
APPARENTLY ASKED OUR
DEPARTMENTS TO HOLD BACK
FUNDING FOR 2022 SPENDING WHICH
IS SPENDING PRIORITIES OF THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS INCLUDING THINGS LIKE
HYGIENE CENTERS, BATHROOMS FOR
FOLKS WHO NEED TO USE IT AS
TOURISTS OR FOLKS WHO LIVE HERE
ARE HOUSING AND UNHOUSED.
WE HAVE ASKED ABOUT DOMESTIC
WORKER BILL OF RIGHTS OUTREACH
AND IMPORTANT CRITICAL ASPECTS
OF EVERY BUDGET ITEM WE AGREED
TO AS COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVE
LAST YEAR THAT I KNOW WERE
PAINFUL NOT NOT ONLY THE
DEPARTMENTS TO ASK FOR A HOLD
BUT NOW ALSO THE COMMUNITY.
NOW HAVING TO HOLD BACK 6% NEXT
YEAR, NONE OF US WANT TO BE IN
THAT POSITION ESPECIALLY SINCE
WE SEEK TO IMPACT FROM COVID.
IT IS THROUGH THIS BUDGET LENS.
ALL FIVE OF US ARE ON THE
FINANCE COMMITTEE AND I WANT TO
RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
APPROACH TODAY AND ALSO
EMPHASIZE THAT SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET GOT
$355.5 MILLION IN LAST YEAR'S
BUDGET.
THIS MADE SURE THERE WAS NO
CUTS TO THE SPD STAFFING PLAN,
NO CUTS TO SPD OFFICERS IN
PROPOSED BUDGET AND FUNDED
EXPANSION, NEW TECHNOLOGY
DEEMED ESSENTIAL, FUNDED 6.4
MILLION ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO
BRING THE TOTAL TO OVER 26
MILLION, ADDED 4 MILLION FOR
DISCRETIONARY PURPOSES ABOVE
THE PROPOSED BUDGET SENT TO US
AND TRAVEL AND TRAINING IN THE
MIDST OF COVID.
ALL THIS WAS DONE TO BE SURE
THAT THE FULL CORE FUNCTIONS OF
SPD BUDGET WERE FUNDED.
ONE OF THE POTENTIAL STRATEGIES
WE HAD TO DEAL WITH WAS TRYING
TO MAKE SURE WE RECRUITED 125
OFFICERS.
I STILL THINK THAT SHOULD BE
DONE USING EXISTING RESOURCES.
I DO NOT SUPPORT MAKING AN
EFFORT TO DIP INTO RESERVES
THAT ARE BEING MADE POSSIBLE
FROM THIS PROVISO AND LIFTED
FOR A BLANK CHECK.
THE AMENDMENT HELPS THAT AND
HELPS PRIORITIZE WHAT ACTIONS
CAN BE TAKING PLACE.
THIS IS NOT TIME FOR US TO BE
LOOKING AT GIVING OVER MONEY TO
SPD TO USE IN THIS CRITICAL
JUNCTURE WHERE WE ARE ASKING
OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO PUT HOLD
ON CURRENT SPENDING AND
POTENTIALLY THINK ABOUT
REDUCTIONS NEXT YEAR.
WE WILL DO EVERYTHING TO BE
SURE THAT'S NOT THE CASE BUT I
THINK WE NEED EVERY DOLLAR
AVAILABLE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
INVESTING IN CORE GOVERNMENT
SERVICES AND THAT IS MAKING
SURE PEOPLE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO
CRITICAL SERVICES IN ADDITION
TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
GIVEN FULL HIRING PLAN WAS
ALREADY FUNDED I DO NOT SUPPORT
LIFTING PROVISO.
I DO HOWEVER SUPPORT YOUR
AMENDMENT TO TRY TO SCOPE THIS
RESOLUTION.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMAN
MOSQUEDA.
BEFORE I HAND IT TO
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, YOU WILL
APPRECIATE THIS.
THIS IS NOT NEW MONEY FOR SPD.
THIS IS FROM SALARY SAVINGS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE 125 OFFICER
SPENDING PLAN.
THIS IS DOLLARS THEY CANNOT,
ALREADY ALLOCATED TO SPD THAT
THEY CANNOT SPEND.
I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT
MADE IT SOUND LIKE WE ARE
GIVING NEW MONEY TO SPD.
THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
THIS IS CURRENTLY IN THEIR
BUDGET AND THEY CAN'T SPEND
BECAUSE OF THE PROVISO PLACED
ON IT.
I CURRENTLY AGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK EXECUTIVE AGREES AS
WELL.
I UNDERSTAND FROM MY
COVERSATIONS WITH THE BUDGET
DIRECTOR THAT THEY INTEND TO
LOOK TO SALARY SAVINGS AS ONE
WAY TO HELP WITH SOME CITY WIDE
BUDGET IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH
REDUCED REVENUE.
WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS
TRIES TO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE
FUNDS AND THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT
MORE THAN WE ANTICIPATED WHEN
WE FIRST ENACTED PROVISO ON THE
SALVATORE REALLOCATE SAVINGS
MAY BE A USEFUL STRATEGY TO
ADDRESS A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
GIVEN THAT WE ALL VOTED FOR THE
STAFFING AND FUNDING NECESSARY
FOR THE STAFFING AND HIRING OF
125 OFFICERS, MONEY THAT IS IN
THE CATEGORY FOR HIRING
OFFICERS, IT SEEMS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU ARE STILL SUPPORTIVE OF
THAT GOAL, IT SEEMS APPROPRIATE
TO SPEND SOME DOLLARS TO HELP
US, WELL NOT MEET THE GOAL NOW
BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY SLIPPED
BUT TO AT LEAST MEET THE 98
OFFICER GOAL.
>> A QUICK FOLLOW UP.
I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING FOR
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND ALSO
FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THIS
IS NOT NEW MONEY.
WE ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH THAT
DYNAMIC WHEN IT COMES TO
LIFTING PROVISOS.
THE POINT ABOUT HANDING OVER
FUNDS THAT CURRENTLY HAVE
PROVISO IN SPD WOULD BE
ALLOWING THEM TO USE IT.
I DO APPRECIATE YOUR AMENDMENT
HELPS KEEP WHAT THAT AMOUNT
WOULD BE WITHIN EXISTING FUNDS
THAT CURRENTLY HAVE PROVISO ON
IT.
AGAIN I THINK THE CONCERN WHILE
IT IS A LARGER AMOUNT THAT'S
CURRENTLY BEING HELD IN THE
PROVISO THAN WE ORIGINALLY
THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE, THE GAP
THAT WE HAVE AT THE END OF THE
YEAR FOR NOT JUST 2022 BUT OUT
YEARS AS WELL IS SIGNIFICANTLY.
>> THANKS TO THE WORK WITH THE
SIX YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN BUT THE
HAS GIVEN ME GREAT PAUSE.
THANKS FOR HELPING ME WITH THE
LIFTING OF THE PROVISO EFFECT.
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO CLARIFY MY
RESOLUTION DOESN'T SAY SPEND
ALL THE MONEY THAT WILL BE
SALARY SAVINGS IN SPD BUDGET AS
A RESULT OF THE FACT THAT MORE
OFFICERS ARE LEAVING AND IT IS
DIFFICULT TO HIRE NEW OFFICERS.
IN FACT ONLY 13.
I DON'T SPECIFY THAT EVERYTHING
SHOULD BE SPENT.
I IDENTIFY THOSE SALARY SAVINGS
AS A SOURCE OF FUNDING.
I APPRECIATE YOU NUANCING
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA'S
PORTRAYAL OF WHAT THIS DOES.
THIS DOES NOT TAKE MONEY AWAY
FROM OTHER PRIORITIES.
THIS ALREADY EXISTS.
, MONEY COUNCIL KNOWING
PROBABLY PROJECTED BUDGET
SHORTFALLS IN THE FUTURE HERE
FUNDED AT 125 OFFICERS.
SO THEY MADE THAT, YOU MADE
THAT DECISION LAST YEAR AND
THIS IS SIMPLY KEEPING THAT
MONEY FOR USE WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT TO GET TO THE GOAL
ORIGINALLY STATED WHICH IS TO
HIRE OFFICERS.
WE CAN DISAGREE OVER WHAT WOULD
BE A BETTER USE.
BUT I WILL STATE FOR THE RECORD
THAT PEOPLE ARE DYING.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS
TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO
EMERGENCIES.
WE SAY WE WANT TO GET GUNS OFF
THE STREET BUT WE DON'T HAVE
INVESTIGATORS TO REALLY DO THAT
WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE DEPLOYED
TO PATROL.
TO ME, AND THIS IS JUST MY
PERSONAL THOUGHT, NOTHING IS
MORE IMPORTANT THAN ENSURING
SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I AM
TRYING TO GET IT.
I REALIZE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND
EXECUTIVE MIGHT BE LOOKING TO
USE SOME OF THE SALARY SAVINGS
FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO GO
THROUGH THE CONVERSATION AND
DEFINE IN THE NEXT PIECE OF
LEGISLATION WE'LL BE TALKING
ABOUT HOW MUCH WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT AND WHAT WILL IT COVER.
>> I CAN RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU.
BRIEFLY, I WILL BE SUPPORTING
COUNCILMEMBER NELL'S
RESOLUTION.
I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED IT.
I SUPPORT IT WITH THE
AMENDMENTS.
I WILL HAVE LONGER COMMENTS
WITH DR. HER BOLD'S IN A MOMENT
SINCE THEY'RE INTERRELATED.
THANK YOU.
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
I AM ASSUMING THOSE ARE OLD
HAND AND WE CAN CALL FOR A
VOTE.
GREAT.
>> CLOSING REMARKS.
>> ON THE AMENDMENT?
JUST DOING THE AMENDMENT NOW.
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
>> CALL ROLE ON ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT 1.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> AYES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> AYES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN AYES.
COUNCILMEN LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> MOTION CARRIES.
>> ADOPTED.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY
TO MAKE CLOSING COMMENTS ON
THIS RESOLUTION.
IF OTHERS HAVE COMMENTS, WE'LL
TAKE THEM FIRST.
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM
CHAIR.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU TRIED
TO DO TO FIND.
I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT
THIS.
I ALREADY OUTLINED THE ISSUES
WE ARE FACING.
I THINK AGAIN THIS IS A
CRITICAL MOMENT TO LOOK AT
EVERY DOLLAR AND WE HAVE MADE
TOUGH DECISIONS AS COLLECTIVE
CITY FAMILY ALREADY IN 2022 ON
IMPORTANT 2022 PRIORITIES.
WE HAVE ASKED FOLKS TO PUT
PAUSE ON A NEW OF INVESTMENTS I
KNOW ALL OF US DEEPLY TROUBLED
BY.
WE WANT ON THE OTHER HAND BE
THROWING UP ADDITIONAL DOLLAR
TO HELP ADDRESS ISSUE.
THIS IS ALSO ABOUT MAKING SURE
WE HAVE INVESTMENTS THAT THINGS
WITHIN THE HUMAN RESOURCE IN
OUR CITY HAS IDENTIFIED WAYS TO
CITE RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT.
I WILL CITE THE FINAL REPORT
WHICH SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
WAS PART OF.
IT DID NOT IDENTIFY PAY AS A
BARRIER TO EITHER HIRING OR
RETAINING SPD OFFICERS.
THAT INCLUDES INCENTIVE
BONUSES, DID NOT IDENTIFY
HIRING BONUS AS A
RECOMMENDATION.
THE FOUR MADE BY THE WORKGROUP
INCLUDED FOCUS ON LEVERAGING
TECHNO LOGICAL SECLUSIONS,
REVISE TO ENGAGE CANDIDATES,
ADVANCE TOLL TALENT QUICKLY
THROUGH THE PROCESS AND EXTEND
OFFERS IN A MORE COMPETITIVE
TIME FRAME.
IN RESPONSE TO THE SLIDE, IT
SAID SPD SAID THE DEPARTMENT
COMMUNICATED IT DID NOT SEE
INCREASE IN HIRING SINCE
APPLYING INCENTIVE IN 2021.
AS MENTIONED FROM THE CENTRAL
STAFF, THEY CONTACTED POLICE
DIRECTOR AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
POLICE CHIEFS TO DETERMINE IF
THERE ARE SPECIFIC EVALUATIONS
OR RESEARCHES ON THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF HIRING IN
POLICING.
IT NOTICE THE THAT THE
INFORMATION THEY RECEIVED FROM
HEYMANN CENTER ADVICE
DEPARTMENT REPORTED NOTICE
OFTEN IT IS MEANT TO REDUCE
PROSPECTS.
ONCE AN EMPLOYEE IS ON BOARD,
EVEN A STRUCTURED SIGN ON BONUS
WITH PAY OUT TIME TIED TO TIME
AND SERVICE HAS LIMITED IMPACT.
MONEY IS A ONE TIME FIX THAT
MAY NOT COMPENSATE. IT NOTED
SIGNING BONUSES FOR NEWLY HIRED
TALENT CAN NEGATIVELY IMPACT
MORALE.
EMPLOYEES REPORTED INTERNALLY
CAN BE NOT A MATCH WHEN THEY
NOTICE WHAT THIS COLLEAGUES
ARE.
I WOULD THINK THE CITY UNIONS
HAVE NOT THICKEN. HIRING
INCENTIVES ARE EXTENDED PREHIRE
AND WOULD NOT HAVE DIRECT LABOR
IMPLICATIONS.
I AGAIN AM NOT GOING TO BE
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EFFORT IN
FRONT OF US TODAY.
WE ARE ASKING MORE AND MORE OF
FRONT LINE OFFICERS.
THAT IS VERY TRUE.
TO THE CONVERSATION THAT TOOK
PLACE IN AGENDA ITEM ONE, WE
ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO
INCLUDE THE TYPE OF CALLS
OFFICERS GO OUT ON.
I KNOW THAT WILL HAVE IMPACT ON
RETENTION STRATEGIES AND IT
WILL HELP WITH RECRUITMENT
BECAUSE FOLKS WHEN A DIFFERENCE
RESPONSE AND NOT HAVE TO BE
HOUSING.
COVID HAD SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON
US WITHIN THE CITY FAMILY AND
NONPROPERTY COMMUNITY.
THERE IS A HUGE DEMAND TO BE
SURE MORE PROVIDERS ARE COMING
TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
SO WE CAN GO UP STREAM.
THAT IS PART OF THE INTEREST IN
LOOKING AT COMPREHENSIVE SUITE
OF INVESTMENT STRATEGIES IN THE
FALL WE WE EXTENDED THE BUDGET.
TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY I WILL
REITERATE WE HAVE A HERRING
PLAN IN PLACE OVER 355 MILLION
THAT GO TO SPD AND INTERESTED
IN MAKING SURE WE GET
ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES OUT THE
DOOR SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO
DECREASE CALL DEMAND AND
IMPROVE RETENTION AND MORALE
THAT WAY.
I AM HAPPY TO WORK WITH MY
CLOSE, MADAM CHAIR, ESPECIALLY
AS AS YOU HAVE BEEN LEADING
THIS ON THE FRONT LINE FOR MANY
YEARS.
I KNOW MANY FOLKS WITHIN SPD
ARE INTERESTED IN HOW BE CREATE
A WORK PLAN THAT MEETS THEIR
TRADITIONALIST VERSES HOUSE
MANAGERS AND CASE MANAGERS.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING
YOU SAID REMINDED ME OF
SOMETHING AND I WANTED TO
RESPOND BECAUSE I WAS LISTENING
TO PUBLIC CONFLICT.
THIS RESOLUTION DOES NOT
PRESUME WHAT WILL BE IN THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT WE RECEIVE
FROM THE EXECUTIVE ON HIRING
INCENTIVES AND RECRUITMENT
PROGRAM.
I HAVE HEARD THEY TOO ARE
SKEPTICAL ABOUT A TRADITIONAL
BONUS PROGRAM WHERE WE CUT A
COLLECT TO NEW RECRUITS.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO
CHARACTERIZE THIS AS
PRESUPPOSING WHAT
RECOMMENDATION WE GET FROM THE
EXECUTIVE.
HANDING IT BACK TO
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> THANK YOU.
THESE ARE NOT MY CLOSING,
CLOSING.
IN NUANCE OF WHAT WAS SAID, YOU
ARE RIGHT, YOU FULLY FUNDED
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, SPD'S
HIRING PLAN.
SO WHY NOT USE THAT MONEY TO
ACCELERATE HIRING OF OFFICERS?
YOU TOUCHED ON RETENTION.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
A BETTER WAY TO KEEP OUR
DEPARTMENT WHOLE IS TO KEEP
OFFICERS FROM LEAVING.
RETENTION BONUSES WOULD BE
GRATEFUL AND SIGNAL THAT WE
APPRECIATE THE WORK OFFICERS
ARE ALREADY DOING.
THIS DOES NOT GET AT THAT
BECAUSE RETENTION BONUSES HAVE
TO OCCUR IN BARGAINING.
SO WE CAN'T TOUCH THAT.
YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS
THIS GOING TO DO TO FUTURE
BUDGETS?
I WAS LISTENING TO THE
PRESENTATION LAST WEEK.
2010 TO 2022 GENERAL FUND
REVENUES GREW BY 86% AND
GENERAL FUND SPENDING GREW BY
97%.
WE ARE APPROACING LEVEL OF
REVENUES THAT ARE GREETER THAN
PREPANDEMIC LEVELS.
THERE ARE DECISIONS MADE BY
THIS CITY COUNCIL THAT HAVE LED
TO THE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS
THAT WE WILL BE TAKING AND
MAKING NEXT YEAR REGARDING THE
BUDGET.
BUT YOU ALREADY HAD ONE OF
THOSE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS
LAST YEAR WHEN YOU APPROVED
FUNDING FOR 125 OFFICERS THIS
YEAR.
SO AGAIN THIS RESOLUTION DOES
NOT CONTEMPLATE TAKING MONEY
AWAY FROM OTHER PRIORITIES.
IN FACT IT IS SIMPLY LEAVING
THE MONEY THERE FOR ITS
INTENDED
USE.
SO I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS
POINT MORE AND JUST MOVE ON.
I LISTENED TO PUBLIC COMMENTS
TOO.
LIKE MANY OF THEM, I WANT TO
GET BACK TO FOCUSING ON
IMPROVING POLICING IN SEATTLE
AND STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY
POLICING MODEL TO BUILD BETTER
TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND
OUR DEPARTMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE CONSENT DECREE
TO GET OUT FROM UNDERNEATH.
WITH IMPROVED ACCOUNTABILITY
MEASURES.
WE CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS IN A
SITUATION OF CRISIS IN THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN THERE
AREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE TO
INVESTIGATE SERIOUS CRIMES THAT
ARE LEADING TO THE CRIMES THAT
OUR PATROL OFFICERS ARE
RESPONDING TO.
TIMES HAVE CHANGED SINCE LAST
YEAR WHEN THAT'S CONVERSATIONS
WERE AT THE FORE.
OUR CONSTITUENTS LIVING IN
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE MORE
DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY CRIME HAVE
SPOKEN OUT IN CLEAR SUPPORT OF
THIS RESOLUTION.
THERE WAS AN OP ED IN SEATTLE
TIMES FROM DR. HARRIETT ALDEN,
BEACH, TEREL SAYING PLEASE HIRE
MORE OFFICERS.
OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS IT.
SAME THING IN NORTH WEST ASIAN
WEEKLY LAST WEEK.
IT WAS WRITTEN BY DAVID DELL,
DR. MING CHOW, ANNA, ALL
COMMUNITY MEMBERS CONCERNED
ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE
CHINATOWN INTERNATIONAL
DISTRICT.
MOST RECENTLY THERE WAS AN OP
ED IN PUGET SOUND BUSINESS
JOURNAL MAKING A POINT MAYBE
NOT MANY PEOPLE REALIZE WHICH
IS OUR COMMUNITY GATHERINGS ARE
AT STAKE IF WE DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH OFFICERS TO DO THE
TRAFFIC CONTROL AND SAFETY FOR
FESTIVALS THAT PEOPLE ARE DYING
TO GO FOR THIS SUMMER AS WE
EMERGE.
SO I SIMPLY WANT TO SAY THAT I
KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT
CONVERSATION WHICH IS PRECISELY
WHY IT'S BEEN IN THE PUBLIC
REALM FOR DISCUSSION FOR A
COUPLE MONTHS.
VOTERS ARE ON A SIDE OF A
COMMON SENSE APPROACH TO
FULFILLING PRIMARY DUTY AS
ELECTED WHICH IS TO PROTECT
HEALTH AND SAFETY OF CITIZENS
OF SEATTLE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BY PAVING
THE WAY FOR THE SPECIFICS OF
MODIFYING THE PROVISO THAT'S
NEXT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE
DIFFERENCES OF OPINION IN THIS
MEETING BUT I ASK MY COLLEAGUES
FOR SUPPORT OF THIS RESOLUTION.
THANK YOU.
>> WILL CLERK PLEASE CALL ROLE
ON PASSAGE OF THE RESOLUTION?
>> MOSQUEDA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> AYES.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> AYES.
>> VICE CHAIR LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> FOUR IN FAVOR.
ONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
MOTION CARRIES.
THE LEGISLATION, RESOLUTION IS
ADOPTED.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM IN
THE AGENDA, WILL CLERK PLEASE
READ AGENDA ITEM THREE.
COUNCIL BILL 120320, ORDINANCE
RELATING TO APPROPRIATIONS FOR
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
AMENDING A PROVISO IMPOSED BY
ORDINANCE 126490 WHICH ADOPTED
2022 BUDGET AND RATIFYING
CONFIRMING CERTAIN PRIOR ACTS,
VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
WE ARE JOINED BY ALY PENNUCCI
AND GREG DOS FROM COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF.
COULD YOU PLEASE PLEASE THIS
BILL AND WHAT IT DOES.
>> SURE.
120320 WOULD MODIFY PROVIDE OH
IMPOSED TO AUTHORIZE USE OF
SALARY SAVINGS TO PAY FOR
MOVING EXPENSES FOR NEW OFFICER
HIRES AND TO PAY FOR SALARY AND
BENEFITS FOR ADDITIONAL
RECRUITER.
IT WOULD RELEASE 650,000 OF THE
SALARY SAVINGS IDENTIFIED TO
DATE WHICH CHAIR HERBOLD
DESCRIBED AS BETWEEN 4.1 TO 4.5
MILLION.
SPD WOULD HAVE AUTHORITY TO PAY
FOR MOVING EXPENSES FOR LATERAL
HIRES THAT ARE HIRED AT A
CERTAIN PAY BAND AND TO HIRE
ANOTHER RECRUITER ASSUMING THEY
HAVE AN OPEN POCKET.
THE BILL REQUESTS THAT SI
DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES
WORKS TO AMEND THE POLICIES
AROUND MOVING EXPENSES TO
PROVIDE GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO
PAY FOR THIS FOR NEW HIRES AND
EXTEND BENEFITS TO A BROADER
RANGE OF POSITIONS WHEN
AUTHORITY DETERMINES THEY'RE
UNABLE TO RECRUIT PERSONS IN
THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
THAT LANGUAGE ALSO ASKS HUMAN
RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO
PRIORITIZE MODIFYING THAT RULE
SO THAT SPD COULD OFFER MOVING
EXPENSES TO PAY FOR MOVING
EXPENSES FOR NEW RECRUITS.
AGAIN ALSO TO EXPAND THAT MORE
BROADLY LOOKING AT THE NEEDS OF
ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE
CITY CURRENTLY.
CRITERIA FOR MOVING EXPENSES IS
FOCUSED ON EXECUTIVE LEVEL
POSITIONS AND AS A WEEKEND
PICKS FIT TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO
ACCEPT EMPLOYMENT.
BENEFIT TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO
ACCEPT EMPLOYMENT.
POSITIONS PERHAPS THAT COME IN
AT LOWER SALARIES BUT MOVING
EXPENSES WOULD ATTRACT A
BROADER RANGE OF CANDIDATES AND
HELP THE CANDIDATES BE ABLE TO
RELOCATE TO THE CITY.
I WILL LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALY.
THERE ARE A COUPLE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS BEFORE I OPEN IT FOR
DISCUSSION.
AS I THINK WE KNOW DURING THE
WORK ON THE 2020 BUDGET,
COUNCIL REQUESTED REPORT FROM
THE EXECUTIVE ON CITY WIDE
HIRING INCENTIVE PROGRAM AND
REQUESTING THAT THEY CAN SEE
ISSUES BE ANALYZED AMONG FRONT
LINE WORKERS, AMONG DEPARTMENTS
THAT HAVE SERVICE ISSUES, NOT
MET BECAUSE THEY CAN SEIZE OR
ANALYZING HOW THEY CONCEDE ARE
INHIBITING DEPARTMENT FOR
FULFILLING A CORE FUNCTION.
THE REPORT INDICATES THERE ARE
A NUMBER OF POSITIONS
DEPARTMENTS STRUGGLE TO FILL
AND OTHERS IMPORTANT FOR CITY
BUSINESS INCLUDING TRUCK
DRIVERS, CIVIL ENGINEERS,
POLICE OFFICERS, 911
DISPATCHER.
AS NOTED BY COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF, BILL REQUESTS DEPARTMENT
OF HUMAN RESOURCES TO AMEND
PERSONNEL RULES TO PROVIDE
APPOINTING AUTHORITIES GREATER
FLEXIBILITY TO PAY FOR MOVING
EXPENSES FOR NEW HIRES
INCLUDING POLICE HIRES BECAUSE
THE CURRENT PERSONNEL RULES
LIMIT THIS FLEXIBILITY.
FOR SOME REASON TO ONLY HIRE
PAY BANDS SUCH AS DEPARTMENT
DIRECTORS.
I THINK THAT IS A VESTIGE OF AN
OLD WAY OF THINKING.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE WANT OUR
DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO
RECRUIT GREAT PUBLIC SERVANTS
TO WORK FOR THE CITY IN HELPING
PAY FOR RELOCATION COSTS.
DO THAT ACROSS SALARY LEVELS.
THAT IS NOT A BENEFIT THAT
SHOULD BE ONLY AVAILABLE TO
DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS.
CONSEQUENTLY THEY WILL REQUEST
THAT THE DEPARTMENT AND EVEN
RESOURCES AMEND PERSONAL RULE
TO PROVIDE THE GREATER
FLEXIBILITY.
THE SECOND PART IS TO RELEASE
THE PROVISO ON SPENDING.
I SHOULDN'T SAY SUPER PROVISO.
MODIFY PROVISO ON SPENDING FOR
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE MODIFICATION TO ALLOW FOR
THIS FUNDING IS ACTUALLY NOT
NEEDED FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
THEY CAN CURRENTLY USE FUNDS
FROM POSITION VACANCIES ONCE
SDHR CHANGES THE RULES ALLOWING
AUTHORITIES TO PAY REROUTE
EXPENSES FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS
IS NOT WITH THE CURRENT
PROVISO.
ONCE RULES CHANGE THEY CAN USE
SALARY CHANGES CREATED BECAUSE
OF RECRUITMENT ISSUES IN ORDER
TO PAY FOR RELOCATION COSTS.
ONLY SPD CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE
OF THE PROVISO.
THAT'S WHY BASE LEGISLATION
WOULD RELEASE $650,000 FOR SPD
AS NOTED, COMPLIMENTARY TO THE
RESOLUTION, COMMITTEE
CONSIDERED, WHAT EXECUTIVE IS
PROCEEDING WITH.
THESE ARE NOT NEW FUNDS.
THESE ARE ALREADY IN THE BUDGET
ASSOCIATED WITH THE HIRING PLAN
TO HIRE 125 OFFICERS COUNCIL
FUNDED IN THE 2022 BUDGET AND
NOW MODIFIED MAIN BEAD HIRES.
RELEASING FUNDS WOULD WORK,
ASSIST WITH THE NOW REDUCED
HIRING PLAN WHICH I THINK MAKES
SENSE GIVEN EARLIER COUNCIL
ACTION FOR THE PLAN.
IF YOU VOTED FOR SUFFICIENT
FUNDING TO HIRE 125 OFFICERS IN
NOVEMBER LAST YEAR HOPEFULLY
THERE WILL WOULD BE EQUAL
SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THAT
EXISTING FUNDING TO MEET A
LESSER VERSION OF THE SINGLE.
THAT'S THE THINKING HERE.
ANY COUNCILMEMBER TECH
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE
COUNCIL BILL BEFORE DISCUSSING
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
>> I DO THINK I HAVE A QUESTION
FOR CENTRAL STAFF IF POSSIBLE.
YOU ARE LOOKING AT SPD AND
OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
GREAT.
THE BILL IN FRONT OF US ASSUMES
THAT MOVING EXPENSES FOR SPD
RELATED RECRUITS WOULD BE TAKEN
FROM SALARY SAVINGS WHICH AS WE
FLOW IS SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN
ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED WHEN WE
PASSED THE BUDGET.
MY ARGUMENT IS WE HAVE HUGE
NEEDS AT THE END OF THE YEAR
THAT WE'LL NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR
FOR UPCOMING BI ANNUAL BUDGET.
I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE OTHER
DEPARTMENTS.
I UNDERSTAND FROM THE
DISCUSSION WE HAD IN THE
FINANCE AND HEALTH COMMITTEE
LAST WEEK THAT THE CITY BUDGET
OFFICE IS TRYING DO A MORE
THOROUGH JOB OF REALTIME
BUDGETING, HAVING
ACCOUNTABILITY REPORTS FROM THE
DEPARTMENT SO WE KNOW IN
REALTIME IF THERE IS UNDER
SPEND.
HOWEVER WE KNOW WHAT THE UNDER
SPEND IS AT SPD.
DO WE KNOW WHAT UNIVERSE OF
UNDER SPEND DOLLARS IS FOR
OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND HOW MUCH
THIS MAY COST IN TOTAL?
>> THANK YOU CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.
IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN IN
ONGOING DISCUSSIONS WITH CBO
AND THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT.
THERE ARE A COUPLE DYNAMICS
HERE.
AS A GENERAL STRATEGY, WE ARE
LOOKING AT UNDER SPEND TO HELP
MITIGATE PROJECTED SHORTFALL IN
'23 AND PERHAPS BEYOND.
HOW THAT WORKS IN PRACTICE IS
SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED FOR OTHER
DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE ARE NOT
ABLE TO TRACK IN SUCH FINE
DETAIL, SORT OF THE REALTIME
SALARY SAVINGS.
THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS.
THERE ARE SPECIFIC SPENDING
PROPOSALS INCLUDED IN ADOPTED
BUDGET CURRENTLY ON HOLD
PENDING BETTER NEWS FORECAST
FOR 2023.
THOSE ARE NOT NECESSARILY
SALARY SAVINGS BUT SPECIFIC
SPENDING ADOPTED IN THE 2022
BUDGET THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON
HOLD AND I THINK YOU OR CHAIR
HERBOLD MENTIONED THEM IN A
DISCUSSION ON THE RESOLUTION.
IN ADDITION THE BUDGET OFFICE
IS LOOKING FOR UNDER SPEND
ACROSS DEPARTMENTS THAT MIGHT
HELP MITIGATE THAT.
THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY
RESTRICTED BY PROVISO.
EXECUTIVES, DEPARTMENTS ALONG
SEED CBO AND MAYOR'S OFFICE CAN
DECIDE TO USE SOME TO OFFER
MOVING EXPENSES IF THEY
DETERMINE IT IS A CRITICAL
POSITION WITHOUT REQUIRING
AUTHORIZATION FROM THE COUNCIL.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS MOVING
EXPENSES ARE AUDI ON A PRETTY
LIMITED BASIS UNDER CURRENT
PRACTICE BUT THAT'S ANECDOTAL.
I DON'T HAVE DATA TO SUPPORT
THAT.
SO I DON'T THINK IT IS A TOOL
MOST APPOINTING AUTHORITIES ARE
USING IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY, IF
THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT SALARY
SAVINGS IN ANY DEPARTMENT THAT
IT WOULD FEED INTO THAT.
I THINK OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE
BEING ASKED TO HOLD BACK
CERTAIN SPENDING.
THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO LOOK AT
VACANCIES AND SALARY SAVINGS TO
MITIGATE THOSE PROBLEMS.
I AM NOT SURE IF SAME
EXPECTATION HAS BEEN MADE OF
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU ALY.
>> I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO GET
THE BILL BEFORE US.
WE CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSION OR
MOVE FORWARD TO AMENDMENT.
SOME FORWARD MOMENTUM HERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF 120320.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> MOVED AND SECONDED.
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, YOU HAVE
REFUSED AMENDMENT ONE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE
AMENDMENT ONE?
>> SO MOVED.
>> I WILL SECOND.
I WILL HAND IT TO YOU
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON TO SPEAK
OR HAVE SPECIAL STAFF DESCRIBE
IT.
YOUR CHOICE.
>> I WILL SPEAK AND THEN HAVE
CENTRAL STAFF GET INTO
SPECIFICS.
BEFORE I SPEAK ABOUT THE BILL
AT HAND, I WANT TO RESPOND TO
SOMETHING COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA SAID THAT WILL HAVE
SLIGHTLY LOWER SALARY SAVINGS
IN SPD'S BUDGET.
GOING BACK TO LEGISLATIVE
HISTORY, COUNCIL BUDGET ACTION
SPD30308-A-001 WOULD CUT 2.7
MILLION FROM SPD'S BUDGET THAT
WAS IN THE MAYOR'S BUDGET ON
THE ASSUMPTION THAT SPD WOULD
ONLY BE ABLE TO HIRE 125
OFFICERS AND INCUR 125
SEPARATIONS IN 2022.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR,
IT WAS NOTED THAT PROBABLY
WEREN'T GOING TO REACH 125
OFFICERS AND THE PROJECTED
SALARY SAVINGS WAS MORE LIKE
1.4 MILLION.
THAT WAS BACK IN FEBRUARY.
NOW WE'VE GOT PROJECTED 4.1 TO
$4.5 MILLION IN SALARY SAVINGS
IN SPD.
THAT IS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE
BECAUSE SPD NOT ABLE BECAUSE
THEY DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS, I
BELIEVE, THEY NEED TO HIRE THE
OFFICERS COUNCIL FUNDED.
>> I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A
MISUNDERSTANDING.
I DID NOT SAY THERE WAS A
DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT IN THE
PROVISO.
I WAS AGREEING WITH CHAIR THAT
THERE WAS INCREASE IN THE
AMOUNT.
>> THAT'S WHAT I HEARD AS WELL.
I AM SORRY FOR NOT CATCHING
THAT.
YOUR DESCRIPTION COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA IS WHAT I HEARD AS
WELL.
>> I HEARD THE WORD "SLIGHT"
AND I THOUGHT 1.4 TO 4.5 WAS
MORE THAN SLIGHT.
ANYWAY, JUST MOVING ON WHEN I
SAW COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S
BILL I FRANKLY DIDN'T LIKE IT
MUCH.
I THOUGHT THAT $650,000 FOR
RELOCATION EXPENSES AND TO HIRE
AN SPD RECRUITER WAS NOT MUCH
MONEY AND ALSO RELOCATION
EXPENSES PRECLUDED SPENDING
INCENTIVES ON PEOPLE WHO
ALREADY LIVE IN SEATTLE.
AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE
DIRECTOR IT IS CLEAR THERE ARE
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN SEATTLE,
PARTICULARLY THE IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITY, THAT WOULD LIKE A
JOB IN SPD.
AFTER A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND
REALIZATION THAT COMPROMISE IS
HEART OF POLITICS I CAME
TOGETHER WITH COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD AND THE MAYOR AND
AGREED TO THIS FRIENDLY
AMENDMENT.
I INVITE ALY NOW TO GO THROUGH
THE SPECIFICS.
>> THANK YOU.
AMENDMENT ONE TO 120320
SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON WOULD INCREASE SAVINGS
PURPOSES IN THE BILL FROM
650,000 TO 1.5 MILLION AND
EXPAND USE TO INCLUDE PAYING
FOR NATIONAL SEARCH TO FILL
CHIEF OF POLICE POSITION AND
NATIONAL AD CAMPAIGN TO ATTRACT
CANDIDATES FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON
DESCRIBED, THE CURRENT ESTIMATE
IS 4.1 TO 4.5 MILLION OF SALARY
SAVINGS CURRENTLY IN SPD'S 2022
BUDGET.
THIS WOULD INCREASE TOTAL
AMOUNT THEY WOULD BE AUTHORIZED
TO SPEND FROM ABOUT 15% OF
TOTAL FUND AVAILABLE TO DATE TO
ABOUT A QUARTER.
IT WOULD LEAVE ABOUT THREE
FOURTHS OF THE FUNDS AVAILABLE
STILL RESTRICTED BY PROVISO AND
WOULD REQUIRE FURTHER
AUTHORIZATION BY COUNCIL TO
RELEASE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
>> THANK YOU ALY AND THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> NOTE THAT AS WE HAVE HEARD
FROM THE MAYOR, THIS IS NOT --
THIS IS JUST FIRST STEP.
THERE WILL BE OTHER STRATEGIES
AND POTENTIAL ITEMS THAT WILL
BE PUT ON THE TABLE AT A LATER
DATE.
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT NOW
BECAUSE THIS IS MONEY THAT CAN
BE SPENT NOW.
WHO KNOWS HOW MUCH WE'LL BE
ABLE TO SPEND OF THE SALARY
SAVINGS THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE
TABLE.
SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD
START TO MEETING IMMEDIATE
NEEDS TO PUT THE TOOLS IN PLACE
THAT WE CAN START ACTUALLY
RECRUITING OFFICERS THAT WE
NEED.
>> SAME THING I WAS THINKING IN
PRODUCING ALSO BILL FLOWING
THAT THE EXECUTIVE WOULD BE
BRINGING A PROPOSAL, WHAT CAN
WE DO NOW?
THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR COMMENTS.
ALY IS THAT AN OLD HAND OR NEW
ONE?
>> A NEW ONE.
I MEANT TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT
MORE DETAIL ON HOW WE LANDED ON
ORIGINAL $650,000 NUMBER IF
IT'S HELPFUL TO THE COMMITTEE.
I WILL GO AHEAD.
I WILL SAY IT IS NOT -- NOT
KNOWING HOW MANY POTENTIAL
CANDIDATES MIGHT SEEK
REIMBURSEMENT FOR MOVING
EXPENSES THERE WAS SOME ROUGH
ESTIMATES OF WHAT THE FUNDING
COULD ACCOMPLISH.
WE ASSUMED ABOUT $100,000 FOR
NEW RECRUITER POSITION.
THAT IS LIKELY AN OVER
ESTIMATE.
IT WILL DEPEND AT WHAT POINT
THAT PERSON WILL BE HIRED AND
HOW MUCH IS NEEDED FOR SALARY
AND BENEFITS.
ASURALING 100,000 FOR THAT
PURPOSE AND THAT LEAVES
550,000.
THAT WOULD ALLOW POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO OFFER MAXIMUM
MOVING EXPENSES CURRENTLY
ALLOWED WHICH IS $25,000 TO 22
OR UP TO 36 IF AVERAGE MOVING
EXPENSE WAS 15,000.
BECAUSE OF CURRENT PERSONNEL
RULES THEY REALLY COULD OFFER
THESE TO LATERAL HIRES AT THIS
TIME.
THERE ARE. THIS WAS ENOUGH TO
MOVE TO THE BROAD RANGE OF
LATERAL HIRES.
AGAIN IF IT IS SUCCESSFUL,
COUNCIL COULD RECONSIDER
RELEASING ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
>> SUPER HELPFUL.
COUNCILMAN MOSQUEDA.
>> THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR, I THINK I WILL
MAKE MY COMMENTS HERE REGARDING
AMENDMENT AND UNDERLYING BILL
IF THAT SOUNDS OKAY MADAM
CHAIR.
I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO GET US
OUT ON TIME.
I WANT TO NOTE STEPPING BACK A
SECOND THAT MUCH OF THIS IS
BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER THE
CONCEPT THAT SOMEHOW SEATTLE IS
UNIQUE AND COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS
COMMENTED ON HOW NOT UNIQUE AND
YOU NOTICED THE SIMILAR
SITUATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SINCE NOTED EARLIER THAT
SEATTLE IS AN OUTLIER I WANT TO
POINT US TO POLICE EXECUTIVE
RESEARCH FORUM, A WORKFORCE
THAT'S BEING EXPRESSED, YOU
HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE
OFFICERS.
YOU HAVE AN INCREASE IN PEOPLE
RETIRING.
WE FOUND 44% INCREASE IN
RETIREMENTS AND 18% PERCENT IN
RESIGNATIONS ACROSS
DEPARTMENTS.
IN ATLANTA THERE WERE 400 TO
500 OVER THE LAST YEAR.
IN PHOENIX IT IS 13% OF THE
ALLOTMENT.
PHILLY, DOWN 440 OR 7% OF TOTAL
POLICE OFFICERS' BUDGET FOR THE
CITY.
WINSTON SALEM SOUTH CAROLINA,
DEPARTMENT DOWN 96 OFFICERS AND
THAT'S 18% OF THE ALLOTTED
FORCE.
IN TERMS OF THE DATA THAT BACKS
THIS UP FROM RELIANT HIRING
SOLUTIONS, A FIRM THAT WORKS TO
SET UP JOB FAIRS, IT SAID IT
WAS DIFFICULT TO FIND RECRUITS
ACROSS CITIES ACCORDING TO CNN.
THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED
SITUATION IN SEATTLE.
I APPRECIATE THAT THE GOOD
CLAIRE HAS BEEN TRYING TO FIND
SOLUTIONS.
I WOULD PROPOSETO COLLEAGUES
THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS WE
CAN ADDRESS DECREASE IN
OFFICERS.
WE ARE NOT UNIQUE IN
EXPERIENCING OFFICERS RETIRING
OR LEAVING THE FORCE, WE CAN
RESPOND UNIQUELY AND BE ON THE
FRONT EDGE IN TERMS OF HOW WE
RESPOND IN ALTERNATIVE
SERVICES.
SHELTER, MENTAL HEALTH, FOOD
SECURITY, ALL THESE THINGS
GENERATE BETTER HEALTH AND
SAFETY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I AM SUGGESTING THAT AS PART OF
OUR WAY TO ADDRESS PUBLIC
SAFETY ISSUES WE HOLD THE
CONVERSATIONS FOR LATER IN THE
YEAR TO REALLY MAKE SURE WE ARE
HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT
WHERE WE WOULD LIKE ANY UNDER
SPEND TO GO IN FUTURE BUDGETS
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE UNIVERSE OF
DOLLARS AVAILABLE AND UNIVERSE
OF NEEDS AT THE END OF THE
YEAR.
ACCORDING TO CENTRAL STAFF MEMO
IN FRONT OF US ON THE
LEGISLATION, THIS MAY IMPACT
FUTURE BUDGET CONDITIONS BEFORE
COUNCIL.
IF SALARY STAGES ARE CONSIDERED
ONE TIME RESOURCE.
HIRING SPD RECRUITER UNLESS
INTENDED TO BE TERM LIMITED IS
ONGOING EXPENSE.
THIS WOULD ASSUME THAT IN 2023
EITHER, A, NUMBER OF FUNDED
POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS WOULD
BE REDUCED TO OFFSET COST OF
ADDITIONAL GENERAL FUND WOULD
BE NEEDED TO MAINTAIN THE
NUMBER OF FUNDED POLICE OFFICER
POSITIONS.
IN THE LATTER THE IMPACT WOULD
WORSEN EXISTING STRUCTURE
DEFICIT OF THE CITY'S GENERAL
FUND.
GIVEN NATIONAL DOWN TURN I AM
SURE AND NOT INTERESTED IN
FUNDING A RECRUITER POSITION
FOR A LABOR MARKET THAT IS
DECLINING AND I DON'T THINK
THIS IS THE BEST USE OF FUNDS
WHEN THE CITY IS CURRENTLY
FACING ONGOING STRUCTURAL
BUDGET ISSUE WHERE GENERAL FUND
EXPENDITURES ARE OUT PACING
REVENUES IN THE GAP AND HOW
FAST THEY'RE KEEPING UP WITH
COSTS AND SERVICES.
AS FOLKS HEARD IN OUR MEETING
THIS PREDATES ME AND COUNCIL
MEMBERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY
DELIBERATING THE UPCOMING
BUDGET.
THIS HAS BEEN A STRUCTURAL
ISSUE FOR YEARS.
THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE JUMP
START WHICH HELPED US BACK IN
THE BLACK IN THE LAST TWO
YEARS.
WHAT I BELIEVE WE ARE SAYING
WITH THE BILL IN FRONT OF US
AND THIS RESOLUTION, THIS
AMENDMENT, IS WE ARE ALREADY
MAKING A DETERMINATION FOR HOW
TO USE POTENTIAL INTEREST AND
DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPACT
BUDGET CYCLES.
THE QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH CITY
FAMILY INCLUDING PRO TECH AND
THOSE INTERESTED IN TRAINING
AND DEVELOPMENT, WAGE INCREASES
BENEFITS CAREER ADVANCEMENTS
FAIRNESS AND EQUITY IN THE
WORKPLACE.
ALL THOSE ITEMS IS WHAT THEY
IDENTIFY TO US IN TERMS OF WHAT
STRATEGIES THEY WOULD LIKE TO
SOME PROPOSED.
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
REPORT NOTED THAT IMPORTANCE OF
A MULTI PRONG STRATEGY TO BE
SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION AND I
WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN
MIND, LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGICAL
SOLUTIONS, REVISE BUSINESS
PRACTICES, ENGAGE CANDIDATES TO
RETAIN TOP TALENT AND EXTEND TO
A MORE COMPETITIVE TIME FRAME.
PROBABLY ONE OF THE STRATEGIES
DOES INCLUDE A MOVING
INCENTIVE.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT
COMPONENT OF A LARGER PICTURE.
I STILL CANNOT SUPPORT THIS
BILL AND ESPECIALLY IF THIS
EMIT HANGS GIVEN IMPACT ON THE
UPCOMING BUDGET AND DO COMMIT
TO WORKING WITH GOOD CLAIRE TO
IDENTIFY WAYS TO FLUSH OUT OR
FILL OUT THE REST OF THE
STRATEGIES ACROSS DEPARTMENTS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> SO THE FIGURES THAT WERE
PROVIDED FOR OTHER CITIES AND
THEIR LOSS DO NOT APPROACH THE
28% LOSS IN OFFICERS IN SERVICE
HAPPENING IN SEATTLE.
I DIDN'T HEAR 21, 22, OR 28.
WE I BELIEVE ARE UNIQUE IN OUR
SITUATION HERE.
I AM NOT PRIVY TO THE
CONVERSATIONS COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA IS HAVING WITH
WHAT I AM LISTENING TO IS OUR
CONSTITUENTS SAYING THEY WANT
BETTER PUBLIC SAFETY.
THAT IS WHAT I WAS ELECTED TO
DO, REPRESENT THEIR NEEDS.
I DON'T THINK EVEN IF WE WERE
TO AUTHORIZE FULL $4.5 MILLION
AND IT WERE SPENT IN 2022 WHICH
IS NOT REALLY A POSSIBILITY,
THAT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET OF
A $117 MILLION PROJECTED BUDGET
GAP IN 2023.
THERE ARE OTHER PLACES.
PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT THE PLACE
TO MAKE THE CUTS.
>> THANK YOU.
LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL HANDS
BEFORE WE CALL THE VOTE ON THE
AMENDMENT.
PEDERSEN.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MY
COMMENTS AFTER THE AMENDMENT.
I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS ON THE AMENDMENT,
PLEASE CALL ROLE ON ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT 1.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> AYES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> VICE CHAIR LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> FOUR IN FAVOR.
ONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
ARE THERE FURTHER COMMENTS ON
THE BILL AS AMENDED?
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR HERBOLD.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AS
CHAIR AND ALSO COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON FOR PUTTING FORWARD BOTH
LEGISLATIVE.
I WANT TO THANK MAYOR HARRELL
TO COLLABORATE TODAY'S
COMPROMISE, ONCE AGAIN
DEMONSTRATED SKILL AT FINDING
COMMON GROUND.
THIS WAS TIMELY, HEALTHY,
NECESSARY FOR A PROCESS AND
GOOD GOVERNANCE IN OUR DIVERSE
CITY.
THIS AMENDMENT RESOLUTION AND
AMENDMENT COUNCIL BILL REMOVING
EXPENSES AND ENHANCED
RECRUITMENT CAN SERVE AS
ACCEPTABLE FIRST STEP, STURDY
SHOVEL TO DIG OURSELVES OUT OF
PUBLIC SAFETY CREATED EVERY THE
PAST TWO YEARS, EXIT INTERVIEWS
OF SPD AIR FORCES REVEAL
SPECIFIC THEME AND I AM HOPING
SOME OF THE ACTIONS SERVE TO
REBALANCE SOME OF THAT SO
OFFICERS DO FEEL MORE
SUPPORTED.
I BELIEVE WE MUST ALSO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SUMMER IS
COMING.
IT WILL BE HERE IN 40 DAYS.
WE KNOW THAT HISTORICALLY
SUMMER BRINGS A SPIKE IN CRIME
AND GUN VIOLENCE AND THE SPIKE
COINCIDES WITH WARMER MONTHS
WHEN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
SEATTLE RESIDENTS DESERVE TO
FEEL SAFE TO ENJOY THE CITY
PARKS SUCH AS WHERE THE CITY
HOPES FOR A JULY 4th
CELEBRATION.
WE MUST REFORM THE POLICE UNION
CONTRACT.
A STAFFING SHORTAGE AT SPD IS
SO SEVERE THAT WE WILL NEED
MORE THAN A SHOVEL TO DIG
OURSELVES OUT.
WE'LL NEED A HIGH SPEED
ELEVATOR AND WE NEED IT SOON.
I LOOK FORWARD TO US RECEIVING
FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SPD
A BIGGER BOLDER RECRUITMENT
RETENTION PLAN WITH DETAILS
READY TO IMPLEMENT FOR
ACLEAVING SUCCESS, HIRE, KEEP
OUR FRONT LINE PUBLIC SAFETY
WORKERS IN SEATTLE BEFORE
SUMMER CRIME SPIKE IS UPON US.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
SIMILAR TO COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN'S REMARKS I APPRECIATE
THE CONVENING OF MAYOR'S OFFICE
IN RECONCILING PERCEIVED
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RESOLUTION
AND ORDINANCE AND HARMONIZING
PROPOSALS INTO THE UNITED
PROPOSAL WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US
IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT SYMBOL
NOT ONLY FOR THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT BUT FOR THE CITY AS
A WHOLE TO SEE A FUNCTIONING
UNITED PRODUCTIVE SEATTLE CITY
HALL RELATIVE TO THE CONFLICTS
BETWEEN EXECUTIVE AND
LEGISLATIVE BRANCHES OVER THE
LAST TWO YEARS.
AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN SEVERAL
RESPECTS TODAY IT HAS RESULTED
IN A PUBLIC SAFETY SITUATION IN
THE CITY THAT IS AT A VERY HIGH
LEVEL OF ACUTE OF CRISIS.
I APPRECIATE THIS APPROACH AND
LOOK FORWARD TO MAYOR HARRELL
TRANSMITTING ADDITIONAL STEPS
IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE ARE
REQUESTING IN THE RESOLUTION
AND IMPLEMENTING RESOURCES THAT
THE CITY COUNCIL IS PROPOSING
TO UNLOCK VIA THESE PROPOSALS
TODAY.
BUILDING OFF OF SOME OF
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA'S
COMMENTS, I CAN CONTINUE ON AND
CITE A LOT OF THE STATISTICS
ABOUT PURE CITIES.
EVEN MORE RECENT STATISTICS.
NEW ORLEANS IS LOSING 50 POLICE
OFFICERS OR HAS LOST 50 POLICE
OFFICERS IN 2022 ALONE SO FAR.
DALLAS IN TEXAS, PERCEIVED AS A
MORE POLICE FRIENDLY
JURISDICTION, IN THE MIDDLE OF
2021 LOST 144 OFFICERS AND ONLY
REPLACED WITH 77 NEW RECRUITS.
SAN DIEGO, A MORE CONSERVATIVE
JURISDICTION IN CALIFORNIA AS
OF MARCH 14 THIS YEAR HAD BEEN
LOSING 20 OFFICERS PER MONTH SO
FAR THROUGHOUT 2022.
SO THIS IS A NATIONAL CRISIS
WITH POLICE HIRING AND
RETENTION.
PART OF WHAT IT PUTS FRONT AND
CENTER REALLY IS THE PREVIOUS
CONVERSATION THE COUNCIL WAS
HAVING ABOUT THE NEED TO
DEVELOP AND INVEST IN, SCALE
CERTAIN RESPONSE ALTERNATIVES
TO FREE UP OFFICERS FOR JOBS
THAT THAT ARE ONLY ABLE TO DO.
WE CAN LOOK AT RETRENCHMENT AND
HOW SEATTLE OF CITY MANAGERS
ITS CASELOAD AND WORK WITH THE
RESOURCES ALLOWED TO US.
THE CITY THAT IS GOING TO BE
SUCCESSFUL IN THE FUTURE IN THE
UNITED STATES IS GOING TO BE
THE CITY THAT HONESTLY
CONFRONTS AND TAKES HOME THAT
WORK.
THERE IS NO WAY WE ARE GOING TO
REPLACE ALL THE OFFICERS THAT
THE CITY HAS LOST WITHIN ONE
YEAR.
WE HAVE A HIRING TARGET OF 98
OFFICERS BUT WE NEED TO DO
EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER AS
THESE MEASURES ARE DOING TO
LEAD THE HIRING OR POTENTIALLY
EXCEED IT BUT WE NEED TO GO
FORWARD WITH THE REALIZATION
THAT WE WILL NOT REPLACE THE
OFFICERS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN
LOSING WITHIN THE NEXT 24
MONTHS.
WE STILL HAVE THINGS THE
COMMUNITY EXPECTS US TO RESPOND
TO THAT WE NEED TO.
THE CRITICAL THING WE NEED TO
KEEP CENTERED THAT I KNOW HAS
BEEN A DIFFICULT CONTEXTUAL
THING TO DISCUSS IS THAT
RECRUITING WAS ALLEGING IN THE
DECADE PRECEDING OUR RECENT
HIRING SHORTFALL AND
CHALLENGES IN THE PERIOD POST
CONSENT DECREEOFFICER HIRING
HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLOSE TO FAIRLY
ATTRITION AL.
IN AND OUT.
AS WE SEE IT IS AN EXTREMELY
HIGH ACUTE OF HIRING ONE PERSON
FOR THOSE WE ARE LOSING.
FRONT AND CENTER, EVEN AT TIMES
WHEN WE HAD BETTER ONE FOR ONE
REPLACEMENT RECRUITING, WE
STILL HAD VOLUMES OF UNMET
RESPONSE IN THE COMMUNITY
BECAUSE WE NEED ALTERNATIVE
METHODS OF RESPONDING AND
MITIGATING EFFECTS ON THE
COMMUNITY.
I WANTED TO REECHO THAT TO
COMMIT TO THE SHARED YES
APPROACH EMPHASIZED THAT WE
NEED TO BE COMMITTED AND
DETERMINED AND PUT IN EVERY
EFFORT AND RESOURCE TO ENHANCE
POLICE RECRUITING.
IT IS ALSO ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY
IF WE WANT AN ADEQUATE FIRST
RESPONSE, THAT WE DEVELOP AND
BUILD UP ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO
RESPOND TO AND DO FUNCTIONS
THAT HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN
DONE EXCLUSIVELY BY SEATTLE
POLICE OFFICERS.
WITH THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO
VOTING FOR THIS ORDINANCE.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
VOTE FOR THE RESOLUTION EARLIER
AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE FULL
MEMBERS AT COUNCIL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> FIRST, I WANTED TO SAY I
APPRECIATED YOUR FRIENDLY
AMENDMENT TO MY RESOLUTION BACK
THERE.
I WAS NOT ABLE TO CONVEY THAT I
BELIEVE THAT STRENGTH END MY
LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING
TOGETHER WITH ME TO FURTHER
THIS DIRECTION THAT WE'VE GOT
TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT PUBLIC
SAFETY.
THE DETAILS DON'T MAKE AS MUCH
DIFFERENCE THAN THE FACT THAT
WE ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT
NOW TO ADDRESS THIS.
WE ARE SIGNALING TO POTENTIAL
RECRUITS TO EXISTING OFFICERS
THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS OF
IMPORTANCE AND ALSO SHOWING OUR
CONSTITUENTS WE ARE RESPONDING
TO THEIR CONCERNS.
THE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO VOTE FOR THIS TODAY AND LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND
THE EXECUTIVE GOING FORWARD ON
WHATEVER STEPS MAY COME.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON,
MOSQUEDA.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PIGGYBACK ON
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
I APPRECIATE THE ONGOING EFFORT
THAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER TODAY
FOR THE ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES.
I WANT TO DIRECT US TO THE
REALLY POLL WHERE IT SAID 92%
OF RESPONDENTS SAID IF THEY
COULD DIRECT WHERE TAX DOLLARS
WENT THEY WOULD SPEND ON
HELPING FOLKS WITH ADDICTION
ISSUES AND MENTAL HEALTH
SUPPORTS AND SERVICES.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY GOING
FORWARD IN UPCOMING BUDGET TO
DO MORE OF THAT AND REALLY
PRIORITIZE FUNDING IN THAT WAY.
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS AS I
NOTED.
I THINK IF THE LEGISLATION GOES
FORWARD THERE ARE TWO FOLLOW UP
REQUESTS I WOULD HAVE OF THE
EXECUTIVE AND I WANT TO THANK
AS WELL FOR EXAMPLE THE SENATOR
DEPUTY MAYOR AND THE MAYOR AS
WELL FOR KEEPING MUCH OPEN DOOR
TO HOW WE ADDRESS THE ISSUES
TOGETHER.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS IS
THE EQUITY ISSUE BETWEEN
DEPARTMENTS RECOGNIZING SPD HAS
LARGEST BUDGET IN OUR CITY'S
GENERAL FUND AND HOW SMALLER
DEPARTMENTS WILL MAKE
COMPARABLE OFFERS IF MOVING
OFFERS ARE PUT FORWARD.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT WE
HAVE IN MIND TO ASSIST WITH
EQUITY ANNOUNCEMENTS.
I WOULD LOVE A FOLLOW UP FROM
EXECUTIVE OR SPD AS WE THINK
ABOUT RECRUITMENT.
THAT'S IMPORTANT BUT ALSO
RETENTION AND ESPECIALLY
COMPLIANCE WITH EXISTING
REQUIREMENTS FOR EXISTING
OFFICERS.
AS NOTED IN SEATTLE TIMES
ARTICLE OF THE 86 OFFICERS
INVOLVED IN THE MAY DAY PROTEST
A NUMBER HAD MASK VIOLATIONS,
REFUSED TO WEAR MASK.
WHEN LABOR AND INDUSTRIES TRIED
TO INVESTIGATE NOT ONLY THE
MASK VIOLATIONS BUT CONCERN
AMONG FOLKS WHO EXPERIENCED
OFFICERS NOT WEARING MASKS AND
WERE MET WITH RETALIATION OR
DISMISS CIVNESS.
LABOR AND INDUSTRIES STATE
SAFETY INSPECTORS REPORT SPD
AND SAFETY OFFICERS THERE
ACCESSING SPD FILES EVEN AFTER
APPROVED BY LIEUTENANT AND
INSPECTIONS SHOWED THEIR
GOVERNMENT IDENTIFICATION.
JULY REPORT SHOW THAT OFFICERS
CLAIM THEY NEVER HEARD AND THE
REPORT SAID OFFICERS ROUTINELY
DISOBEYED DIRECT ORDERS TO WEAR
MASKS AND OBSERVE SOCIAL
DISTANCING.
AS WE THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS NOT AVAILABLE, THE
NUMBER ON EXTENDED LEAVE, I AM
INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT
EXECUTIVE STRATEGY AND
DEPARTMENT STRATEGY IS TO
ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH HEALTH
AND SAFETY REGULATIONS,
INCREASE VACCINATION RATES AND
AT THE LEAST MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE NOT JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT
WHO IS COMING IN THE DOOR BUT
HOW WE ARE MAINTAINING
REQUIREMENTS FOR EXISTING
OFFICERS TO COMPLY WITH HEALTH
AND SAFETY WHICH WILL YIELD
MORE FOLKS AVAILABLE TO BE
DEPLOYED.
THOSE ARE THE FOLLOW UPS THAT I
HAD.
>> THANK YOU.
ALL GOOD THINGS TO KEEP AN EYE
ON MOVING FORWARD AS SDHR LOOKS
AT CHANGING THE RULE ABOUT
RELOCATION COST OF THE
FOUNDATION.
OUR EFFORT IS ABOUT EQUITY SO
WE SHOULD DEFINITELY TRACK HOW
OUR GOALS ARE IMPLEMENTED AND
WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE
REALIZED AS MAKING OFFERS TO
RECRUITED PUBLIC SERVANTS,
WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE MAKING
THEM MORE EQUITABLE POLICY AND
APPROACH TO DOING SO.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU ALSO FOR RECOGNIZING
THE SHOCKING, I THINK,
REVELATION OF THE LACK OF
ADHERENCE AND DISREGARD FOR
MASKING POLICIES THAT WERE IN
PLACE IN THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON FOR ADDRESSING
PREVENTION AND ANOTHER WAY OF
KEEPING THE PUBLIC SAFE WHICH
IS A CORE RESPONSIBILITY OF
POLICE OFFICERS.
REFUSAL TO WEAR MASK AND
REFUSAL TO COOPERATE WITH
INVESTIGATIONS AROUND MASK
WEARING I FOUND VERY SHOCKING.
THANK YOU FOR LIFTING THAT AS A
CORE ELEMENT OF THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT COMMISSION.
CLOSING REMARKS BEFORE WE CALL
FOR A VOTE ON MY BILL HERE?
I REALLY WANT TO THANK MY
COLLEAGUES FOR NOTING
CHALLENGES OTHER CITIES HAVE
FACED IN SWORN OFFICER
STAFFING, THE FACT THAT IT'S A
NATIONAL ISSUE AROUND
RECRUITMENT OF POLICE OFFICERS,
THE FACT THAT WE ACTUALLY, AND
THAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING
WITHIN CONTEXT OF THE GREAT
RESIGNATION WHICH TOUCHES ALL
JOB SECTORS.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
RECRUIT SMARTER.
I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT I
WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THE
COMMENTS MADE BY COLLEAGUES
THAT THE STAFFING CHALLENGES AT
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOT ONLY
MEANS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS
OUR RECRUITMENT PRACTICES AND
BE SMARTER ABOUT HOW WE RECRUIT
PEOPLE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC BUT
THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP
ALTERNATIVES TO ENSURE THAT
OFFICERS THAT WE DO HAVE ARE
ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE MOST
PRESSING PUBLIC SAFETY THREATS
THAT ONLY THEY CAN RESPOND TO.
THE COMMITMENT IS A VERY
WELCOME STEP AND I APPRECIATE
THE MAYOR'S ROLE IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE TWO PIECES
OF LEGISLATION BEFORE US TODAY.
FOR THE BILL, GIVING FUNDING
FOR SPD HIRING PLAN, IT IS IN
THE 2022 BUDGET ALREADY.
I BELIEVE IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO
TAKE THE STEP THAT CAN
FACILITATE MEETING THE HIRING
PLAN EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOW ONLY
98 OFFICERS.
I RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS
APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER OF THE
VALUE OF, THE CURRENT VALUE OF
THE SALARY SAVINGS PROVISO AND
LOOK FORWARD TO ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO
STRATEGIZE AROUND THE FUNDS TO
ADDRESS A VARIETY OF NEEDS
UNDER THE BUDGET CHAIR'S
DIRECTION.
RESOLUTION ADOPTED EARLIER
HELPED SET THE STAGE FOR WHAT
WILL BE FORTHCOMING ABOUT
STAFFING INCENTIVES AND I THINK
RECOGNIZES COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY
IN LIFTING OR MODIFYING
PROVISO.
THE DETAILS ARE VERY IMPORTANT
WHEN WE MODIFY PROVISO BECAUSE
WHEN WE PROVISO FUNDS IT'S
BECAUSE WE HAVE DECIDED WE WANT
TO SEE HOW THE DOLLARS WILL BE
SPENT.
SO THE DETAILS MATTER.
WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE THE
SUPPORT OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE
VOTE AND LOOK FORWARD TO
BRINGING THIS TO FULL COUNCIL.
WILL CLERK PLEASE CALL ROLE ON
THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL AS
AMENDED.
>> MOSQUEDA.
>> NO.
>> NELSON.
>> AYES.
>> PEDERSEN.
>> AYES.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> HERBOLD.
>> YES.
>> FOUR IN FAVOR.
ONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MOTION CARRIES.
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THAT
THE COUNCIL BILL PASS AND
AMENDED.
BOTH PIECES HAVE A DIVIDED VOTE
SO IT WILL NOT BE HEARD ON THE
NEXT COUNCIL MEETING BUT WILL
BE FORWARDED TO THE MAY 24
COUNCIL MEETING.
WITH THAT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS
OR QUESTIONS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES?
NOT SEEING OR HEARING ANY,
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEXT PUBLIC SAFETY AND HUMAN
SERVICES COMMITTEE IS MAY 24,
2022.
THE TIME IS 12:19.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.