A LOT OF TIMES, OUR COMMUNITY
MEMBERS ARE DEALING WITH
CHALLENGES, EVEN YOU GET
OWNERSHIP.
THERE WILL BE CHALLENGES YOU
CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH.
WE FOUND THE THINGS THAT HAVE
REALLY BEEN SPECIAL ABOUT IT
ARE THAT THEY INVEST IN THAT
DEEP INVESTMENT.
I THINK OF GOVERNMENT AND OTHER
INSTITUTIONAL PARTNERS TO
RECOGNIZE THE VALUE THAT IS
THERE AND SUPPORT IT, ALONG
WITH SUPPORTING RECLAIMING OF
COMMUNITY ASSETS, I THINK FUNDS
LIKE THE EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT
INITIATIVE HAVE BEEN
TREMENDOUSLY VALUABLE TO
COMMUNITY IN RECLAIMING
OWNERSHIP.
COMMUNITIES STILL NEED THAT
SUPPORT, THAT ROBUST SUPPORT
AROUND THEM TO MAKE THE MOST OF
THAT OWNERSHIP AND TO DEAL WITH
THE CHALLENGES THAT SHOULD'VE
COME WITH THE NEXT PHASE.
YEAH.
THERE ARE A LOT OF EXCITING
OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
A LOT OF EXCITING NETWORKS OF
FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THE WORK
SORT OF UNDERGROUND A LITTLE
BIT THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE
RECOGNIZED MORE EXPLICITLY.
>> YEAH.
I JUST WANT TO REINFORCE WHAT
WAS JUST SAID.
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IN
PARTICULAR, THIS IS AN
INCREDIBLY NICHE SECTOR.
THE TOP 1% OF OWNERS IN
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AS AN
ASSET CLASS OWN 81% OF THE
NONRESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE IN
THE UNITED STATES.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FAMILY
BUSINESSES.
NO ONE GOES TO SCHOOL AND
LEARNS HOW TO DO COMMERCIAL
REAL ESTATE REALLY.
I AM SAYING SOMETHING IS TO
WORK WITH THE SCHOOL'S
INTEREST.
THIS IS LIKE, JUST EVEN HOW TO
MANAGE A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE
ASSET, HOW TO DO A COMMERCIAL
REAL ESTATE DEAL, IT IS NOT
WRITTEN DOWN A TON OF PLACES.
THIS IS NOT COMMON KNOWLEDGE
EVERYONE HAS.
IT IS ACTUALLY VERY FEW PEOPLE
IN THIS BUSINESS THAT ARE GOOD
AT THIS BUSINESS AND KNOW HOW
TO MAKE MONEY DOING IT.
YOU KNOW, FRANKLY ONE OF THE
REASONS WHY THE SECTORS IS
QUITE LUCRATIVE IS BECAUSE OF
HOW TIGHTLY HELD THIS KNOWLEDGE
IS.
FOR THAT TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW,
THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF
ORGANIZING, AND A LOT OF
BUILDING OF CAPACITY.
THE HARD WORK.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO
BE DONE IN ORDER FOR THAT 81% A
YEAR, THAT I MENTIONED, TO
CHANGE.
>> YEAH.
WELL, IT IS ONE OF THE REASONS
THAT SOMEONE TRAINED AS A
PLANNER, THAT I ENCOURAGE MORE
BLACK AND BROWN FOLKS,
HONESTLY, PARTICULARLY WOMEN
PLANNING SCHOOL, TO BECOME
DEVELOPERS TASTE
>> TO GET THAT MVA.
>> TO FINANCE.
DIFFERENT PEOPLE NEED TO BE
SUPPORTING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE
MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN A
DIFFERENT KIND OF WAY.
THAT WAS DEFINITELY PART OF IT.
>> PART OF THIS I THINK EVEN
WITH AN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE,
YOU WILL HEAR, THERE ARE --
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IS JUST
LIKE ANY OTHER SECTOR.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THE
SECTOR WHO ARE SUPER VILLAINS.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS
SECTOR WHOSE HEARTS ARE REALLY
N THE RIGHT PLACE AND WHO WANT
TO DO GOOD THINGS.
BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT
THEY KNOW HOW TO BRING ABOUT
THE CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN.
LIKE I WAS SAYING EARLIER, THE
LEGACY OF SEGREGATION, PART OF
IT IS THAT WE LITERALLY DO NOT
KNOW EACH OTHER.
AND WE DO NOT KNOW EACH OTHER'S
COMMUNITIES AND BUSINESSES.
IT TAKES THESE KIND OF
INTERVENTIONS AND FRAMEWORKS IN
ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO EVEN HAVE A
CHANCE TO TRY OUT SOMETHING
DIFFERENT.
HONESTLY, IT IS EXCITING TO
HEAR ABOUT ALL THE WORK
HAPPENING IN SEATTLE BECAUSE
THIS IS WHAT YEARS AHEAD,
FRANKLY OF MOST PLACES.
IN TERMS OF AT LEAST BUILDING
CAPACITY.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT SORT OF THE BIG
PICTURE WORK THAT PEOPLE'S
ECONOMY LAB IS DOING AROUND
THIS JUST TRANSITION.
I THINK WE ARE IN AGREEMENT
THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BEST WAY TO
ENSURE PEOPLE OF COLOR CAN STAY
IN SEATTLE IS TO INCREASE
ASSETS, INCREASE WEALTH.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
DO WHAT WE CAN TO FACILITATE
COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP SO THAT
COMMERCIAL TENANTS CAN BUILD
OWNERSHIP WITHIN THEIR OWN
BUILDING.
I LIKE THIS.
THERE ARE SOME FOLKS DOWN
HILLMAN SILLY CITY FOR TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT THIS BUYBACK THE
BLOCK IDEA.
AND ALSO JUST TO PROVIDE SPACE
FOR BUSINESSES TO LAUNCH AND
GROW AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT
VIBRANT COMMERCIAL AREA
THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WE ARE
LOOKING FOR.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT, AS A LEADER, IN THIS
MOVEMENT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT WHAT I
JUST TRANSITION TO A
REGENERATIVE ECONOMY MEANS AND
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR US
TO START MOVING IN THAT
DIRECTION?
>> SO, FOR US, THE JUST
TRANSITION FRAMEWORK, IS GOING
BY MOVEMENT GENERATION, IS A
MOVEMENT FOR A FAIR SHIFT TO AN
ECONOMY THAT IS ECOLOGICALLY
SUSTAINABLE, SOCIALLY JUST, AND
REGENERATIVE OF PEOPLE AND
PLANET.
WE SEE THE REGENERATIVE ECONOMY
AS AN ECONOMY WHOSE PILLARS
WORK TOWARDS COLLECTIVE AND
SHARED WELL-BEING.
IT IS AN ULTIMATE VISION IN A
FRAMEWORK THAT INVOLVES A SET
OF PRINCIPLES, PROCESSES, AND
PRACTICES TO BE ABLE TO BUILD
THAT ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL
POWER TO MAKE THAT SHIFT
HAPPEN.
BUT IT RECOGNIZES THAT THE
FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS OF OUR
ECONOMY AS WE SEE THEM
CURRENTLY ARE INBUILT.
BUT THE EXTRACTIVE ECONOMY IS
FUNCTIONING AS IT SHOULD FOR
THE ENCLOSURE OF WEALTH AND
POWER.
SO THEY ARE NOT REALLY PROBLEMS
OF THE THING, BUT THE THING
WORKING AS IT IS DESIGNED TO
WORK.
AND SEEING THE ECONOMY IS
SOMETHING THAT WE DID FINE
REALLY.
IT FUNDAMENTALLY MEANS THE
MANAGEMENT OF HOME.
THIS IS NOT A FORCE OF NATURE.
THIS IS ROLES WE HAVE CREATED
AND STRUCTURES.
ROLES WE HAVE CREATED
RELATIONSHIPS OF POWER IN THE
HISTORY OF OUR SOCIETY.
WE SEE WITHIN OUR POWER IN THAT
TRANSITION TO RETHINK AND
REFRAME WHAT THE ECONOMY IS IN
SORT OF RE-CREATE THE
FUNDAMENTALS.
SO THAT INVOLVES REALLY
CHALLENGING BASIC IDEAS ABOUT
RESOURCE EXTRACTION,
EXPLOITATION OF LABOR AND
GOVERNMENT, WHICH ARE KEY
PILLARS OF THE ECONOMY, AND
REFRAMING THOSE THINGS.
SO I RECOGNIZE THIS IS A
TRANSFORMATIVE VISION THAT IS
IN OPPOSITION TO THE ECONOMY WE
HAVE AND WE HAVE TO WORK
WITHIN.
IT WILL REQUIRE NAVIGATING THE
CONTRADICTION OF WORKING WITHIN
THE SYSTEM WHERE SAY OUR BLACK
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF COLOR IN
SEATTLE ARE STRUGGLING TO
REMAIN IN THE CITY, TO EDUCATE
OUR KIDS, DEFEAT OUR FAMILIES
WITH HEALTHY FOODS AND HALF
WORK IN THIS HEALTHY ECONOMY.
EVER, TO ULTIMATELY AND
FUNDAMENTALLY SOLVE THOSE
PROBLEMS, WE HAVE TO CREATE A
DIFFERENT ECONOMY.
THEY JUST TRANSITION INVOLVES
RECOGNIZING THAT EXPLICITLY AND
NAVIGATING THE CONTRADICTIONS
OF THAT.
FINDING WAYS TO WORK ON
BUILDING GENERATIONAL WEALTH
FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND LOCALLY
THROUGH ADVANCING OWNERSHIP BUT
ALSO TRANSITIONING TOWARDS A
DIFFERENT MODEL OF WHAT
OWNERSHIP LOOKS LIKE.
COLLECTIVE OWNERSHIP.
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNANCE.
FOCUS ON ECOLOGICAL
SUSTAINABILITY.
SO, FOR US, IT LOOKS LIKE,
REALLY, WORKING IN DEEP
RELATIONSHIP WITH COMMUNITY TO
RECOGNIZE THIS FRAMEWORK THAT
WE SEE IN THE WORLD.
THEN TO WORK WITH THEM, WE ARE
NAVIGATING THE CONTRADICTION OF
GETTING TOWARDS THE NEW ECONOMY
WE WANT TO ACHIEVE WHILE
WORKING WITH THE EXTRACTIVE
ECONOMY AND SOCIETY THAT WE ARE
IN.
SO, WE ADDRESS THAT BY REALLY
PURSUING AND FINDING THE
LEADERS WE FEEL LIKE OUR
PLANNING THE SEEDS OF THIS NEW
REGENERATIVE ECONOMY.
FOLKS LIKE DR. MARK JONES AND
CURTIS.
FOLKS LIKE ARIEL BANGS, A FAN
OF PLANT-BASED FOOD SHARE.
PEOPLE WE SEE CREATING THE
MODELS OF THIS REGENERATIE
ECONOMY AND PROVIDING THEM WITH
FUNDING, NETWORKS OF SUPPORT,
AND THAT SORT OF NURTURING
ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM TO BE
SUCCESSFUL, AND THEN LEARNING
ABOUT THIS FRAMEWORK AND
BUILDING UPON THIS FRAMEWORK
TOGETHER AND BUILDING A
MOVEMENT.
AND SO, I FOCUS HAS BEEN ON
SUPPORTING THOSE LEADERS IN
THEIR WORK, AND REALLY WORKING
IN COMMUNITY WITH THEM TO
CREATE THE MODELS OF WHAT WE
FEEL DIVISION IS.
>> IT IS EXCITING WORK.
AND IT FEELS HUGE.
YOU KNOW, IT FEELS HUGE, BOTH
IN TERMS OF WHAT IS GETTING
ACCOMPLISHED.
THE SHIFT AND SCALE AND SCOPE
OF THE SHIFT THAT IS BEING
CONTEMPLATED, THAT IS BEING
IMPLEMENTED IS DRAMATIC.
AND IT REALLY TAKES A
RETHINKING ABOUT HOW WE DO
EVERYTHING.
AND, I CAN IMAGINE THAT IT
FEELS LIKE THERE IS SO MUCH
WORK TO DO.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS
THAT YOU HAVE WORKED WITH.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THIS WORK, IT HAS
BECOME CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW,
THAT KIND OF TRADITIONAL
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FRAMING,
AND SECTOR AND WAY OF DOING
THINGS CAN BE A BIG WALL TO TRY
TO HIT, AS YOU'RE TRYING TO DO
SOME OF THIS WORK.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
HOW YOU KIND OF BRIDGE THE -- I
DON'T KNOW -- MAY BE THE
COMMUNICATION.
HOW DO YOU TALK ABOUT THE BIG
SHIFT THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO
MAKE WHEN YOU ARE ENGAGING WITH
THE MORE TRADITIONAL SECTOR.
I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND IS HOW WE EMPOWER
BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORS,
BUSINESS OWNERS, ENTREPRENEURS,
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HELP MOVE IN
THIS DIRECTION.
HOW DO WE EMPOWER THEM TO HELP
TO MAKE THE SHIFT?
I DON'T KNOW IF I AM ASKING A
REAL QUESTION HERE.
>> I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE HAVE FOCUSED ON SORT OF
SERVING AS THAT CONNECT OR
BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND LARGE
STAKEHOLDERS LIKE GOVERNMENT,
LARGE FOUNDATIONS, AND OTHERS.
I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS
IS WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY AND
UNDERSTANDING THE NEEDS OF OUR
COMMUNITIES AND THE CHALLENGES
THEY ARE FACING.
BEING THERE WITH THEM AND
PARTICIPATING IN WITH AND
CREATING SOLUTIONS FURTHER
COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WITHIN THAT PROCESS, BUILDING
RELATIONSHIPS, BUILDING TRUST,
AND IDENTIFYING OUR SHARED
VALUES.
THEN, THROUGH THAT TRUST,
SHARING WITH THEM HOW WE SEE
SORT OF THE PROBLEM IN THE
WORLD AND THE ECONOMY.
USUALLY, WE ARE ABLE TO FIND
THE ALIGNMENT THERE.
IT IS IN DIFFERENT PLACES FOR
DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT
COMMUNITIES.
BUT ONCE WE DO FIND THAT
ALIGNMENT, TO STRATEGIZE WITH
THEM ON HOW TO CONNECT WITH
OTHER LARGE STAKEHOLDERS TO
ADVANCE THE INTERESTS OF THEIR
COMMUNITIES MORE IMMEDIATELY,
BUT ALSO TO FIND WAYS TO HELP
US MOVE TOWARDS THE LARGER
SHIFT.
IT IS A SPECIFIC ISSUE AROUND
FOOD EQUITY AND ACCESS TO
HEALTHY FOOD.
SO WE WOULD WORK TOWARDS
ENGAGING DEEPLY WITH FOLKS LIKE
ARIEL OF PLANT-BASED FOOD
SHARE.
FOLKS LIKE LEFFINGWELL CAN'T.
THEN IDENTIFYING THEIR NEEDS,
GETTING DEEPLY ENGAGED, AND
LEARN ABOUT THIS FRAMEWORK AND
TALKING ABOUT IT AS WE ARE
WORKING.
WE WOULD STRATEGIZE WITH THEM
TO CONNECT WITH PARTNERS, AND
GOVERNMENT, AND IN OTHER LARGER
INSTITUTIONS TO SERVE THEIR
NEEDS, BUT TO ALSO ADVANCE
GOALS, LIKE MAYBE COOPERATING
FARMER NETWORKS AND BUILDING
MORE DEMOCRATIC ACCESS TO
CAPITAL THAT BOTH ADDRESSES
THEIR IMMEDIATE NEEDS, BUT
MOVES US TOWARDS WHAT WE ARE
TRYING TO SEE.
THEN, AS WE ARE DOING THAT,
LEARNING NOT JUST WITH THE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS BUT WITHIN
OUR PARTNERS IN GOVERNMENT AND
INSTITUTIONS ABOUT WHY THIS IS
THE BEST, SORT OF, PATH FORWARD
AS WE SEE IT.
WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE WORKING TO
NAVIGATE THAT PATH WITH THE
PARTNERS AND TO ACT AS SORT OF
THE CONNECTOR AND THE STEWARD
OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
IN TRYING TO DIRECT THEM AS WE
CAN, BUT ALSO TO, OF COURSE,
ALLOW FOLKS TO HAVE POWER IN
BOTH RELATIONSHIPS.
>> YET.
THE RELATIONSHIPS ARE KEY, IT
FEELS LIKE.
IT GETS BACK TO THE
CONVERSATION THAT I WAS
MENTIONING EARLIER WITH
RELATIONSHIPS, YOU KNOW, AND
WHAT WAS MAKING SOME OF THAT
SUCCESSFUL.
A SHARED GOAL OF BUILDING
COMMUNITY ASSETS, YOU KNOW,
MAINTAINING LOCAL OWNERSHIP AS
MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND FIGURING
OUT HOW THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE
IT WORK.
TRISTAN, MAYBE I WILL ASK YOU
>> I JUST WANT TO JUMP IN AND
ADD, ANOTHER THING I FIND
INSPIRING ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS
ARE TALKING ABOUT IS HOW IT
BEGINS WITH BEING PRESENT IN
COMMUNITIES AND ASKING THEM
WHAT THEY NEED, AND THAT THE
SOLUTIONS, FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE
PROXIMATE TO THE PROBLEMS.
THESE SOUND LIKE, YOU KNOW,
TALKING POINTS, BUT THIS IS A
REALLY DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN OPERATIONALIZE AT THIS
INTO A DIFFERENT WAY OF TRYING
TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT POVERTY
IN COMMUNITIES.
AND, ACTUALLY, IT REMINDS ME A
LOT OF THE STORY OF THIS
SHOPPING CENTER IN PORTLAND,
OREGON, THAT I HEARD A COUPLE
OF YEARS AGO.
THERE IS A NONPROFIT BASED IN
PORTLAND CALLED MERCY CORPS
THAT MAINLY WORKS
INTERNATIONALLY DURING ANTI-
POVERTY STUFF.
THEY HAVE A DOMESTIC ARM AS
WELL AND IT DOES NOT STOP IN
THE UNITED STATES.
THEY WANTED TO CREATE SOME KIND
OF INVESTMENT TOOL FOR LOW
INCOME PEOPLE IN THE UNITED
STATES, AND THEY DID NOT REALLY
KNOW LIKE WHAT.
IF I'M GOING TO THINK ABOUT
INVESTING, I'M THINK ABOUT
PUTTING MONEY IN MY 401(K) OR
BUYING STOCK OR SOMETHING.
WHEN I HEAR INVES, THAT IS THE
FIRST THING I AM THINKING OF.
SO THEY ACTUALLY WENT TO A VERY
LOW INCOME Z.I.P.
CODE IN EASTERN PORTLAND AND
JUST HUNG OUT AND TALKED TO THE
PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE AND
ASKED THEM WHAT THEY WANTED,
WHAT THEY NEEDED, GOT A SENSE
OF WHAT THEY COULD TRUST.
THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO ARE
RUSHING OFF TO BICE DOCK.
SOMETHING THAT IS INVISIBLE
THAT THEY CAN'T SEE THAT THEY
DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
>> WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM
TO RECITE THAT MODEL WILL WORK.
>> YET.
WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH INSTEAD
IS ESSENTIALLY A MECHANISM FOR
PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CIVIL
CODE TO BUY SHARES IN A LITTLE
SHOPPING CENTER.
IT IS A KIND OF STOCK.
IT IS A SHARE.
IT IS INVESTING IN SOMETHING
TANGIBLE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN
SEE.
AND WHAT IS STRIKING ABOUT THIS
STORY IS NOT LIKE, OH, THEN
THEY DECIDE TO INVEST IN REAL
ESTATE.
IT'S THAT IT BEGAN WITH THIS
USER-CENTERED DESIGN, WHICH IS
JUST A FANCY WAY OF SAYING IT
JUST BEGAN WITH ASKING PEOPLE
OF WHAT THEY NEED.
AND IT IS SOMETIMES THAT SIMPLE
TO START WITH.
BUT MOST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
DOES NOT BEGIN THAT WAY.
>> RIGHT.
RIGHT.
SO THIS IS COMMUNITY INVESTMENT
TRUST IDEA.
WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH
THEM TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW A
MODEL LIKE THAT MIGHT WORK HERE
IN SEATTLE AND HAVE A COUPLE OF
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE VERY
INTERESTED IN PEOPLE'S ECONOMY
LAB HELPING WITH THAT AS WELL.
SO, NEIGHBORHOOD IS IMPORTANT.
THIS SORT OF RELATIONSHIP IS
REALLY IMPORTANT.
AD SO I WANT TO GO BACK,
TRACY, TO THIS QUESTION THAT WE
KIND OF TOUCHED ON EARLIER
ABOUT, SORT OF, THE DOWNTOWN
NEIGHBORHOOD REDO QUESTION.
WE ARE HERE IN SEATTLE.
AS WE HAVE OUR ECONOMIC
RECOVERY CONVERSATIONS, A
LOVELY CONVERSATION IS REALLY
CENTERED ON HOW DO WE BRING
BACK DOWNTOWN, HOW DO WE GET
PEOPLE BACK DOWNTOWN, HOW DO WE
INVEST IN DOWNTOWN.
AND WE KNOW THAT OUT IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE IS ALSO A
NEED FOR RECOVERY AND
INVESTMENT AND, YOU KNOW,
RESTAURANTS THAT ARE STILL
STRUGGLING AND SMALL BUSINESSES
THAT STILL NEED OUR SUPPORT.
SO I, FRANKLY, HAVE BEEN PRETTY
CANDID ABOUT WORRYING ABOUT
THAT.
THERE WILL BE TOO MUCH EMPHASIS
ON DOWNTOWN.
MAYBE YOU CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT
AROUND YOUR WORK AROUND MAJOR
REGIONS AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR
BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES AND
HOW IT RELATES TO THIS
CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE DO
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
DIFFERENTLY.
>> SURE.
IN MY RESEARCH ON MAJOR
REGIONS, IT IS JUST REALLY
ABOUT LIKE LOOKING AT HOW
GROWTH IS HAPPENING IN THE
UNITED STATES, YOU KNOW,
CURRENTLY.
WHERE OUR NEW JOBS AND NEW
HOUSEHOLDS LOCATING?
WHAT I FOUND IN MY RESEARCH --
AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE FOUND
THIS, TOO, THIS IS NOT A
PARTICULARLY SHOCKING FINDING
-- IT IS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY
OF NEW HOUSING AND NEW JOBS ARE
ACTUALLY OUT IN THE SUBURBS.
YOU KNOW, AS EXPLOSIVE AS THE
GROWTH APPEALS IN SEATTLE, WAIT
UNTIL I TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THE
GROWTH THAT IS HAPPENING
OUTSIDE OF SEATTLE.
THIS KIND OF, YOU KNOW,
EXPLOSION IN THE SPATIAL SCALE
OF GROWTH, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR
HISTORIC URBAN CORES IS THAT
ONCE THE URBAN CORE WAS A PLATE
WHERE THERE WAS A REALLY,
REALLY HIGH CONCENTRATION OF
ASSETS AND PEOPLE AND JOBS AND
INSTITUTIONS.
NOW, THAT CONCENTRATION IS
DISPERSING.
THAT LEADS TO FRAGMENTATION
JUST OF VALUE AND CAPACITY, OF
TRUST, OF INSTITUTIONAL
KNOWLEDGE.
LIKE, JUST EVERYTHING IS MORE
SPREAD OUT.
WHEN THINGS ARE MORE SPREAD OUT,
THERE IS A REALLY CLEAR SET OF
WINNERS AND LOSERS IN TERMS OF
HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR
THERE TO BE MORE WINNERS AND
FEWER LOSERS, BASICALLY, WHAT
IS REQUIRED IS KIND OF AN
UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL OF
COORDINATION.
YOU KNOW?
ACROSS ALL THIS FRAGMENTATION.
IT IS JUST REALLY, REALLY HARD
TO DO.
BECAUSE WE ARE ALL PHYSICALLY,
JURISDICTIONAL HE, LEGALLY,
FURTHER APART THAN EVER.
THAT IS WHAT I FOUND IN MY
RESEARCH ON MAJOR REGIONS.
REGIONS ARE GETTING BIGGER, AND
IT IS CREATING A COORDINATION
PROBLEM.
YOU CAN SEE THIS WITH ANY ONE
PARTICULAR ISSUE WHETHER IT IS
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT,
HOMELESSNESS, HEALTHCARE,
HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION.
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS IMPLICATIONS
FOR EVERY SECTOR.
WHAT IT MEANS FOR SEATTLE IS
THAT IT IS -- I THINK IT IS
EASY FOR MANY CITIES.
THEY HAVE THIS TENSION OF
DOWNTOWN VERSUS THE
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY PERCEIVE THEIR CITY
POLITICS AS A TRADE-OFF BETWEEN
THOSE TWO THINGS.
BUT WHAT I SEE AND MIGHT MAKE A
REGIONS RESEARCH IS THAT THAT
IS FIRST OFF LIKE LOSING SIGHT
OF THIS EVEN BIGGER PICTURE OF
LIKE THE SUBURBS.
YOU KNOW?
THEY ARE NOT CO-INVESTED IN THE
WELL-BEING OF THE CITY AND THE
WELL-BEING OF AN URBAN CORE.
THE WAY A DOWNTOWN AND ITS
NEIGHBORHOODS ARE.
THAT IS ONE COORDINATION
PROBLEM THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED.
BUT, WITHIN CITIES, I THINK THE
SOLUTION TO THIS IS THAT ONCE
AGAIN THIS COMES DOWN TO, YOU
COULD SAY IT IS A QUESTION OF
OWNERSHIP.
WHO OWNS DOWNTOWN?
AND WHO IS BENEFITING FROM
DOWNTOWN PROSPERITY?
WE HAVE TO GET THE ANSWER TO
THAT QUESTION.
I THINK MANY OF US CAN START TO
DRESS ALREADY WHAT THE ANSWER
MIGHT BE ONE WE GET IT.
HOW CAN WE EXPAND IT?
HOW CAN WE GET DOWNTOWN
INVESTED IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND
IN NEIGHBORHOODS INVESTED IN
DOWNTOWN?
SO THAT CITIES ARE COOPERATING
AND NOT COMPETING?
IN THIS KIND OF BIG, FRAGMENTED
LANDSCAPE, THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT WOULD HAVE HAD STRONG NET
BENEFITS FOR OLDER
NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> YET.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE THIS URBAN
CITIES CHALLENGE AS WELL.
>> EVERY REGION DOES.
>> YET.
SEATTLE IS OBVIOUSLY THE
LARGEST CITIES, THERE IS
SMALLER CITIES THAT HAVE
DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT -- AS A
REGION -- WHAT WE SHOULD BE
DOING.
AND CERTAINLY AS IT RELATES TO
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE ARE
BOUND BY OUR STATE GROWTH
MANAGEMENT ACT TO REACH CERTAIN
TARGETS AROUND, YOU KNOW, HOW
MUCH HOUSING WE ARE GOING TO
PRODUCE, HOW MANY JOBS WE
ANTICIPATE, BUT EVEN WITHIN
THOSE SORT OF EXPECTATIONS, YOU
KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF
DIFFERENT WAYS PEOPLE APPROACH
WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING FOR OVER
THE NEXT 20, 30 YEARS.
AND THE REST OF US HAVE TO DEAL
WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT.
SO TRYING TO GET OUR CITY
MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
IS IMPORTANT OBVIOUSLY.
I'M SORRY.
DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON ANY
OF THAT?
>> YEAH.
I GREW UP IN A TIME WHEN IT WAS
AFFORDABLE TO OWN A BUSINESS
SPACE IN SEATTLE AND SORT OF
GREW UP WITH THE BENEFITS OF MY
PARENTS ABLE TO BE SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS IN SEATTLE.
I HAVE SEEN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES
COME OUT OF REACH FOR FAMILIES
JUST LIKE MY OWN.
I THINK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP
WE HAD TO DOWNTOWN LIVING IN
SOUTH SEATTLE AND DEACON HILL
AND IN BRENNER BEACH AND THE
SKYWAY.
HAVING A RELATIONSHIP TO
DOWNTOWN, GROWING UP THERE,
HAVING MY FIRST JOBS THERE,
BEING ABLE TO WATCH MY PARENTS
DO BUSINESS AND PARTICIPATE IN
DOWNTOWN'S BUSINESS ECOSYSTEM
AND TO BENEFIT FROM THAT IN A
WAY THAT IS OUT OF REACH RIGHT
NOW.
WHEN TRISH TALKS ABOUT
OWNERSHIP, I THINK THAT REALLY
RESONATES WITH ME.
REALLY, UNDERSTANDING TODAY
WHERE OUR COMMUNITIES RELATE TO
THE DOWNTOWN ECONOMY AND WHAT
IS THE BEST WAY TO CREATE
PATHWAYS TO BEING MORE
CONNECTED, BUT ALSO TO
UNDERSTAND THE REALITIES OF OUR
COMMUNITIES BEING DISPERSED
INTO NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHER
PLACES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
THEN HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT,
OKAY, HOW DO WE USE OUR CURRENT
ETWORKS.
EVEN OUTSIDE THE CITY, OR STILL
CONNECTED TO NEIGHBORHOODS IN
THE CITY WHO WANT TO COME BACK
AND MAP OUT A SORT OF ECONOMY
BASED ON A LOT OF THOSE
RELATIONSHIPS AND WHAT FOLKS
ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.
YEAH.
IT GETS A LOT OF MY WHEELS
TURNING.
I THINK A LOT ABOUT, HOW DO WE?
IT REQUIRES A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT
TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT, WHAT
ARE YOU DOING RIGHT NOW, WHERE
DO YOU LIVE, WHAT YOU GET FROM
THE CITY.
I THINK THAT SORT OF MAPPING
AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND
PROCESSES ARE REALLY VALUABLE,
BUT THEY'RE HARD TO FIND AND
SUSTAIN.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AS MUCH
COORDINATION AROUND THAT IS
POSSIBLE.
RIGHT?
WITH GOVERNMENT AND LARGER
INSTITUTIONS AND COMMUNITY-
BASED INSTITUTIONS AROUND AND
DOING THAT WORK MORE
CONTINUALLY SO WE CAN BEAT
NAVIGATING LIKE WHAT IS THE
BEST APPROACH.
>> YEAH.
THAT IS GETTING MY WHEELS
SPINNING, TOO.
WHAT IS THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT
IN ALL OF THIS?
THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
THE CITY CANNOT DO IT ALL.
BUT WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND
OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE AN OFFICE OF COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT.
HAVE A PERMITTING OFFICE.
HAVE AN OFFICE OF HOUSING.
WHAT SHOULD OUR TASTE BOTH
COORDINATION AMONGST OURSELVES
BE.
BUT TO THE POINT YOU ARE BOTH
MAKING, HOW DO WE SUPPORT, I
KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SAY
INVESTED, BUT HOW ELSE CAN WE
BE SUPPORTING THIS IDEA OF
REALLY UNDERSTANDING HOW OUR
NEIGHBORS, PARTICULARLY FOLKS
WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN PUSHED
OUT OF THE CITY, BUT FOR MANY
DIFFERENT REASONS, YOU KNOW,
INCLUDING TRYING TO KEEP THEIR
COMMITTEE COHESION, TO STILL
COME BACK INTO THE CITY AND USE
CITY SERVICES AND A SHOP HERE.
HOW DO WE HELP FIND THOSE
ANSWERS SO THAT WE CAN BETTER
SUPPORT THE CONNECTION TO THE
NEIGHBORHOODS IN DOWNTOWN?
>> I MEAN, I THINK IN ADDITION
TO THE INVESTMENT, THERE IS
FACILITATING THOSE FORUMS.
THOSE FORUMS AND RELATIONSHIPS
WHERE WE CAN COMMUNICATE ABOUT
THIS.
EVEN JUST TALKING TO TRACY
ABOUT HER RESEARCH AND MAKING
CONNECTIONS BETWEEN PEOPLE'S
ECONOMY LAB AND OTHERS.
SO WE CAN BEGIN TO BUILD THESE
RELATIONSHIPS TO FIND WHERE OUR
SORT OF APPROACHES ONLINE AND
COLLABORATE.
I THINK THE CITY SUPPORTING
úCOLLABORATION AND THEN
SUSTAINING SORT OF FORMS FOR US
TO COLLABORATE AND WORK
TOGETHER.
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO INVEST
AND FUND THE WORK.
THEN, SORT OF HELP US TO HOLD
THE DATA, THE RESEARCH, AND TO
WORK WITH COMMUNITY TO BE A
PART OF THAT PROCESS OF LOOKING
AT WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM
COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND HELPING
TO MAP THAT OUT AND THEN TO
PICK A PATH.
I FEEL LIKE THAT IS A REALLY
VALUABLE ROLE THAT GOVERNMENT
CAN PLAY.
THEN BRINGING IN OTHER ACTORS
FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN
FOUNDATIONS AND OTHERS BY
ENDORSING AND REALLY
CHAMPIONING THE WORK.
>> THANK YOU.
AS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, THE RESEARCH AND MAPPING
THE WORK AND TRYING TO REALLY
UNDERSTAND IT ON THE GROUND AND
WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE
HAPPENING, I KNOW TRACY IS
ABOUT TO BEGIN WHAT SOUNDS LIKE
A CROSS COUNTRY STUDY ON SOME
OF THE SIMILAR QUESTIONS.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT
YOU ARE LAUNCHING SOON, TRACY?
>> YEAH, SURE.
I HAVE HEARD FROM QUITE A FEW
CITIES.
DOWNTOWNS ARE REALLY CHALLENGED
IN THIS MOMENT BECAUSE OF THE
EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH
CONCENTRATION FOUND IN A
TYPICAL U.S. DOWNTOWN AND THE
KIND OF MULTIPLE MAJOR
INTERSECTING TRENDS.
LIKE TELEWORK IS JUST ONE.
MULTIPLE TRENDS ARE HITTING.
OFFICE REAL ESTATE.
THEY ARE CREATING A BIG
STRUCTURAL SHIFT IN DEMAND.
THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE
WHO OWN OFFICE BUILDINGS IN
DOWNTOWN, THEY MAY SAY, THIS IS
LIKE A DISASTER OR THIS IS
REALLY BAD.
BUT THIS IS ALSO LIKE A HEALTHY
REALITY CHECK.
YOU KNOW?
MAYBE THE WAY THINGS WERE
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC WAS NOT
EXTREMELY RESILIENT.
AND WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT
THE ECOSYSTEM IN WHICH DOWNTOWN
OFFICE BUILDINGS EXIST AND, YOU
KNOW, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, YOU
KNOW, HELP THAT OFFICE KIND OF
MONO-CULTURE EVOLVE INTO
SOMETHING THAT IS USEFUL TO
MORE PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW?
AT THE END OF THE DAY.
I THINK THERE IS A CONVERSATION
THAT CITIES NEED TO HAVE THAT
THOSE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR
THAT ARE INVESTED IN DOWNTOWNS
NEED TO HAVE.
SO I AM STARTING A RESEARCH
PROJECT THAT WILL GET A FEW BIG-
CITY U.S. DOWNTOWNS TOGETHER IN
ORDER TO LOOK AT THEIR KIND OF
BASELINE CONDITIONS
ECONOMICALLY, SOCIALLY,
POLITICALLY, AND THEN IN TERMS
OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND TO EXCHANGE IDEAS ABOUT HOW
NOT TO BUILD BACK IN THE SENSE
OF DISCOVERING A TIME MACHINE
TO FEBRUARY 2019.
BUT HOW TO BUILD SOMETHING NEW
THAT IS MORE INCLUSIVE AND THAT
IS RESILIENT AND PRODUCTIVE.
>> AND WHEN ARE YOU STARTING
THAT WORK?
>> AS SOON AS I AM DONE RAISING
MONEY TO SUPPORT IT.
I'M SURE YOU CAN RELATE TO WHAT
I AM TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, A CONTROVERSIAL
STATEMENT FOR WOMEN AND PEOPLE
OF COLOR TO STILL BE THINKING
IN THIS COUNTRY IS, WORK ISN'T
FREE.
I THINK WE ARE ALL HERE TO SAY
IT READ I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT
THAT PIECE AT FIRST.
BUT, AS SOON AS I HAVE THAT
PIECE FIGURED OUT, I AM HOPEFUL
THAT SEATTLE WILL BE ONE PLACE
WHERE WE CAN HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I HEAR
FROM YOU BUT I ALSO HEAR FROM
OTHER FOLKS IN SEATTLE WERE
JUST HUNGRY AND READY FOR THIS
CONVERSATION, READY FOR
SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND
UNDERSTANDING THIS IS A TIME IN
WHICH THINGS WILL CHANGE.
>> YEAH.
ABSOLUTELY.
THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING HERE.
WE HAVE, AS EVERYBODY IS
DEALING WITH WHAT OUR CITIES
LOOK LIKE AFTER THE PANDEMIC
HOW WE RECOVER, HOW WE SUPPORT
OUR BUSINESSES TO COME BACK,
HOW TO MAKE SURE WORKERS ARE
SAFE AS THEY COME BACK INTO
DOWNTOWN OR ANY OTHER INDOOR
WORK ENVIRONMENT.
CERTAINLY A LOT TO CONTEMPLATE.
>> YEAH.
WE TALKED EARLIER.
YOU SHARED THAT ONE SMALL
EXAMPLE OF LIKE A NEW WAY OF
DOING BUSINESS.
A NEW WAY OF SHARING RISK AND
REWARD.
THAT WAS LIKE ONE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW?
ONE RESTAURANT, ONE PROJECT
TRADE ACTUALLY, WE NEED TO HAVE
THAT SAME CONVERSATION ABOUT
THIS MUCH BIGGER PICTURE.
THERE WAS A WAY WE WERE DOING
BUSINESS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC
THAT WASN'T WORKING FOR SOME
PEOPLE, BUT THE FRAGILITY OF
THAT MODEL HAS NOW BEEN
REVEALED AND IT IS NO LONGER
VIABLE.
WE MUST ALL WORK TOGETHER, THE
PRIVATE SECTOR, THE PUBLIC
SECTOR, AND COMMUNITIES, TO
CREATE SOMETHING NEW.
AS WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS,
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
CENTER, AS YOU HAVE SORT OF
BEEN ALLUDING TO, YOU KNOW, MY
NORTHSTAR -- PARTICULARLY GIVEN
THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT,
TO CLOSE THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP.
THE WORK THAT WE DO IS ABOUT --
MY OFFICE IS -- I AM GUIDED BY
THREE PRINCIPLES IN MY OFFICE
WHEN I'M DOING POLICY WORK OR
BUDGET WORK.
AND THOSE ARE TWO PREP PAIR THE
HARM DONE TO BLACK AND BROWN
COMMUNITIES, TO DEMOCRATIZE
ACCESS TO POWER AND RESOURCES,
AND TO PLAN FOR THE SEVENTH
GENERATION.
THAT IS WHY THIS WORK IS SO
EXCITING TO ME.
I DO THINK THAT, IF WE CAN
FIGURE OUT A SHIFT IN HOW WE DO
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ALL OF
THOSE THINGS CAN START TO BE
ADDRESSED.
SO I THINK IT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE, YOU
KNOW, CLEAR AND OVERT ABOUT
CENTERING THE NEED TO REDUCE
THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP.
AND I, FRANKLY, DON'T THINK
YOU'RE CENTERING THAT ENOUGH.
WHETHER IT'S CITY PLANNING HER
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
OUR APPROACHES REALLY NEED TO
CENTER HOW WE ADDRESS THE HARM
DONE IN BLACK AND BROWN
COMMUNITIES.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO ASK BOTH OF
YOU HOW YOU THINK, IN YOUR
WORK, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME
OF THE TAKEAWAYS FROM THE WORK
THAT YOU HAVE DONE THAT
DECISION-MAKERS NEED TO KNOW
ABOUT AND SHOULD KEEP IN MIND
AS WE ARE TRYING TO SHIFT AND
MAKE THIS FRAMEWORK INTO A NEW
WAY OF DOING ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.
>> I WOULD PROBABLY HIGHLIGHT
THAT, PROBABLY, ONE PROJECT
THAT ALIGNS REALLY WELL WITH
THOSE THEMES IS THAT WE ARE
DOING A RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS
PROJECT WITH THE SEAL
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS ON
BY GENERATIONAL WEALTH
BUILDING.
WE WILL BE DOING SOME COMMUNITY
PARTICIPATORY RESEARCH WITH
LEADING COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
TO REALLY EXCESS THE
EXPERIENCES OF OUR COMMITTEE
MEMBERS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED
THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP MOST
SEVERELY.
REALLY IDENTIFYING THEIR
EXPERIENCES WITH GENERATIONAL
WEALTH AND ITS DIFFERENT
COMPONENTS AND THEIR NEEDS
AROUND ADVANCING TO SORT OF
CLOSING WEALTH CAPS LOCALLY.
WE HAVE DONE THAT IN PROCESS
WITH DL AND AND OTHER
CONSULTANTS INVOLVING WEALTH
BUILDING AROUND A TABLE,
VARIOUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND
LEADERS, AND THE
INTERDEPARTMENTAL TEAM AND
GENERATIONAL WEALTH BUILDING.
AND, SO FAR, FROM WHERE
PEOPLE'S ECONOMY LAB IS COMING
FROM, WE HAVE JUST TRANSITIONED
FROM A FRAMEWORK WE SEE THE
PROBLEM REQUIRING -- THE SORT
OF BEING A SYMPTOM OF THE
OVERALL EXTRACTED ECONOMY.
BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED
TO WORK WITHIN THE CURRENT
FRAME TO GET TO THAT OVERALL
SHIFT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS.
SO, WE STARTED BY WORKING WITH
THAT ROUNDTABLE GROUP IN OUR
COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO REALLY
IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE NEEDS AND
DESIRES OF OUR COMMUNITY AROUND
GENERATIONAL WEALTH GILDING.
AND WHERE CAN WE ALIGN THOSE
NEEDS WITH SPECIFIC STRATEGIES
WE CAN IDENTIFY THAT WOULD
SERVE THEM, BUT WOULD ALSO
ALIGN WITH OUR PRINCIPLES IN
TERMS OF DEMOCRATIZING ACCESS
TO CAPITAL AND ECONOMIC POWER
AND COLLECTIVE OWNERSHIP.
SO I THINK THAT IT IS SORT OF,
OUR WORK IN THIS AREA SORT OF
EMBODIES THAT BALANCING ACT.
WORKING WITH COMMUNITY AND
THESE ROUNDTABLES TO THIS
RESEARCH TO REALLY IDENTIFY
THEIR EXPERIENCES, THEIR NEEDS,
AND WHAT THEY SEE IS REALLY
NECESSARY.
UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE SEE FROM
THE RESEARCH ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF OWNERSHIP AND THE
IMPORTANCE OF ACCESS TO THESE
OPPORTUNITIES TO GENERATE
ECONOMIC POWER.
AND THE SYSTEM WITH WHAT ARE
THE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THAT
FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT AT THE SAME
TIME.
AND SO, WE THINK THAT THAT IS
SORT OF A CRITICAL APPROACH.
TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE AND BE
ABLE TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY'S
NEEDS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME TO
BE ABLE TO EXPERIMENT AND
PRIORITIZE ELEMENTS OF
SO WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT WORK
RIGHT NOW WITH THE ROUNDTABLE
TO DO THE RESEARCH.
IT WILL BE AN ONGOING PROCESS.
THAT WILL INFORM SOME OF THE
INVESTMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS
DEFINED TO MAKE IN THINGS LIKE
GUARANTEED BASIC INCOME,
FINANCIAL LITERACY, AND OTHER
AREAS.
AND WE HOPE TO INJECT SOME OF
THAT JUST TRANSITIONED
FRAMEWORK INTO SOME OF THOSE
APPROACHES.
>> YEAH.
AS THE CHAIR OF A COMMITTEE
THAT OVERSEES DEPARTMENTS AND
NEIGHBORHOODS, I AM VERY
EXCITED ABOUT THAT WORK ON
GENERATIONAL WEALTH BUILDING
AND HOW WE REALLY START TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MISSING AND
HOW WE PUT BACK TOGETHER THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE SUPPORT
THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE
SURE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO
OWNERSHIP, ACCESS TO ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES,
BUSINESS OWNERSHIP,
HOMEOWNERSHIP, AND, YOU KNOW,
ANOTHER PART OF WHAT WE ARE
TRYING TO DO IN MY OFFICE IS
REALLY REFRAME WHAT WE MEAN,
EVEN BY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
RIGHT?
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF IMPORTANT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS IN
THE CITY.
OUR OFFICE OF HOUSING JUST
FUNDED ANOTHER $80 MILLION.
I CANNOT REMEMBER HOW MANY
UNITS THAT IS GOING TO PRODUCE.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US ALSO
OFFER SOCIAL HOUSING, WHERE WE
DO NOT JUST ACQUIRE LAND IN THE
CITY AND THEN SELL IT TO A
DEVELOPER, BUT WE ACQUIRE LAND
FOR THE PURPOSE OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND HOLD IT IN CITY
OWNERSHIP SO THAT WE HAVE, YOU
KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY
ENSURE THE PERMANENCY OF THAT
AFFORDABILITY FOR FOLKS.
AND IT WOULD INCLUDE NOT JUST
RENTAL PROPERTIES, BUT
OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP
AS WELL.
I THINK THERE ARE LOTS OF
DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN PULL
THIS THREAD AND REALLY START TO
PULL TOGETHER AN ARRAY OF
OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT
PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO OWNERSHIP
IN THE CITY.
>> I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING
ABOUT CLOSING THE RACIAL WEALTH
GAP AND WHY IT MATTERS.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU
HEAR THAT PHASE AND IT DOES NOT
TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO
UNDERSTAND WHY THIS MATTERS FOR
BLACK PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF
COLOR.
RIGHT?
BECAUSE THE IDEA IS THAT THEY
WILL GET MORE WEALTH.
BUT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO
EMPHASIZE IS THAT THIS IS
ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT IS GOOD
FOR EVERYBODY.
INEQUALITY IS A PROBLEM THAT
HURTS EVERYONE AND THAT HURTS
ALL OF SOCIETY.
I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT
POLITICALLY HOW IT IS TEARING
OUR COUNTRY APART, ALTHOUGH
THAT IS TRUE, AND FOR THAT
REASON ALONE I THINK THAT THERE
IS AN IMPERATIVE IN THIS MOMENT
TO DRESS INEQUALITY.
WE WOULD ALL ACTUALLY BE
RICHER, QUITE LIKE LITERALLY,
BUT ALSO IN CONCEIVING OF
WEALTH REALLY BROADLY.
WE WOULD ALL BE BETTER OFF IN A
WORLD THAT HAD LESS POVERTY AND
INEQUALITY.
THERE ARE LITERAL COSTS TO
SOCIETY THAT WE ALL BEAR BY
ALLOWING THIS SYSTEM TO
CONTINUE TO WORK AS DESIGNED.
AND THAT IS -- IT IS NOT JUST A
TRAGEDY.
IT IS ALSO INEFFICIENT.
RIGHT?
WHAT CLOSING THE RACIAL WEALTH
GAP -- IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT
TAKING WHAT SOMEBODY HAS AND
GIVING IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
THERE ARE BLACK AND BROWN
ENTREPRENEURS WHO HAVE THE NEXT
CURE FOR CANCER OR A GREAT IDEA
FOR A BUSINESS, THE NEXT
iPHONE.
WHATEVER IT IS, ALL OF THIS
POTENTIAL, ALL OF THESE IDEAS,
ALL OF THESE WAYS IN WHICH, NOT
JUST THE ENTREPRENEUR BUT THE
WHOLE OF SOCIETY COULD BE
BETTER, RIGHT NOW WE LEAVE ALL
THAT ON THE TABLE BECAUSE OF
ALL OF THESE SYSTEMIC BARRIERS
TO THE SUCCESS OF BUSINESSES
AND INNOVATORS.
WE WOULD ALL BENEFIT SIMPLY
FROM UNLEASHING THAT.
I WANT THAT NEXT CURE FOR
CANCER.
I WANT THAT NEXT iPHONE.
THOSE WOULD BE GREAT THINGS FOR
ME.
JUST TO GET TO HAVE.
AND WE -- THIS IS A BIG WORLD.
WE NEED ALL HANDS ON DECK IN
ORDER TO ADDRESS BIG PROBLEMS
LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND WE CANNOT BE LEAVING HUGE
CHUNKS OF SOCIETY NOT ENGAGED
IN OUR PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF
POVERTY.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT WE NEED TO DO, NOT JUST
BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING,
BUT JUST BECAUSE IT IS THE
EFFICIENT THING.
RIGHT?
WE HAVE TO STOP WASTING SO MUCH
OF OUR OWN POTENTIAL.
THAT IS ONE THING THAT HURTS ME
ABOUT INEQUALITY.
JUST HOW TERRIFICALLY, TERRIBLY
WASTEFUL IT IS.
THERE IS AN OLD-SCHOOL ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT CASE FOR WHY ASSETS
WITH POTENTIAL SHOULD NOT
SIMPLY BE LEFT FROM THE TABLE.
>> I COULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT
BETTER MYSELF.
THANK YOU, TRACY.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE CRUX OF THE
MATTER.
I THOUGHT SIMILAR THINGS
MYSELF.
I WANT TO BE -- ESPECIALLY WHEN
I LOOK AT OUR SCHOOLS, SOME OF
OUR SELF AND SCHOOLS WHICH HAVE
ALSO BEEN HISTORICALLY UNDER
INTERESTED IN, AND I THINK
ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THOSE
KIDS WHOSE PARENTS ARE WORKING
SEVERAL JOBS, LIVING IN, YOU
KNOW, HOUSING THAT IS NOT SAFE,
NOT SANITARY.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
FOOD TO FEED ALL THE KIDS THAT
GET FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH.
THAT IS ALL, AS YOU SAID, BY
DESIGN.
IT IS OUR POLICY DECISIONS.
THOSE ARE DECISIONS NOT TO
INVEST IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE GROWN UP IN
THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN
DEALING WITH THAT FOR
GENERATIONS.
AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR WHO
COULD HAVE COME OUT OF THOSE
NEIGHBORHOODS AND BEEN THE
NEXT, YOU KNOW, GREAT ARTIST OR
COMPOSER OR PHYSICIAN OR ANY --
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT iPHONES.
>> THE NEXT DESSERT?
WHO KNOWS WHAT IT IS.
>> THAT IS THE ISSUE.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYONE IN THIS CITY HAS
ACCESS THE THINGS THAT THEY
NEED TO THRIVE.
THAT IS REALLY THE POINT OF
THESE CONVERSATIONS.
WHETHER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR HOUSING
OR TRANSIT, BECAUSE THESE ARE
ALL COMPONENTS, THESE ARE ALL
ELEMENTS, OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
PROCESS WE ARE BEGINNING.
I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, AS
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE NEXT
TWO YEARS, WHAT DOES THAT
REALLY MEAN?
THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS.
WE HAVE TO THINK DEEPLY ABOUT
ALL THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND
WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE ABOUT THE
WAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING BUSINESS
IN THE CITY, AND REALLY IN THIS
COUNTRY, SO THAT WE CAN DO IT
BETTER AND NOT BILLED BACK TO
WHAT WE WERE BEFORE, BUT TOLD
SOMETHING MORE JUST AND MORE
EQUITABLE AS WE ARE MOVING
FORWARD.
SO THANK YOU FROM BOTH OF YOU
FOR REMINDING US.
PAUL WELLSTONE SAID WE ALL DO
BETTER WHEN WE ALL DO BETTER.
>> THAT IS RIGHT.
IT WOULD NOT JUST BE MORE JUST
AND MORE EQUITABLE TRADE IT
WOULD ALSO BE MORE FRUITFUL.
>> OKAY.
SO I HAD ONE LAST QUESTION.
WE HAVE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF
TIME.
ON THIS REALLY DOES GO BACK TO
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING
QUESTION FOR ME.
WE ARE -- AND I GAVE TRACY A
LITTLE BIT OF A HINT OF THIS
WOMAN SPOKE YESTERDAY.
AS WE ARE COMING OUT OF THE
PANDEMIC, AS WE ARE HAVING
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHETHER
EVERYBODY IS GOING TO COME BACK
TO WORK OR NOT, HOW MANY PEOPLE
ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO WORK,
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR
DOWNTOWN, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WE ARE
ALSO TALKING ABOUT 15 MINUTE
CITIES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SORT
OF NETWORK OF A THRIVING
NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL
DISTRICTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
SEE SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET
THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED
WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS
WITHOUT HAVING TO GET IN THEIR
CAR AND COME DOWNTOWN.
WHETHER THAT IS A PHARMACY OR A
HEALTHCARE OR A CHILDCARE OR
EVEN THEIR JOBS.
SO THAT IS I THINK SOMETHING WE
SHOULD BE MOVING TOWARD.
WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO BE WORKING FROM HOME IN
LARGE NUMBERS, IT HAS RAISED AN
INTERESTING QUESTION FROM SOME
ABOUT, IF THAT IS HOW WE ARE
MOVING, THAT IS THE DIRECTION
WE ARE MOVING WERE MORE PEOPLE
CAN BE AT HOME, THEN WHY BOTHER
TO INVEST IN TRANSIT?
WHY BOTHER BUILDING SO MUCH
LIKE REAL?
WHY ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT
INCREASING BUS SERVICE?
SO, I WOULD LOVE YOUR REACTIONS
TO THIS QUESTION OF WHY DOES IT
MATTER.
IF WE ARE BUILDING THRIVING
EIGHBORHOODS WHERE EVERYONE
CAN LIVE AND WORK IN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD, WHY BOTHER
INVESTING IN TRANSIT AND PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION?
>> I AM ON THE BOARD OF MY
REGIONS TRANSIT AUTHORITY.
THIS IS A QUESTION I AM
PASSIONATE ABOUT BUT I WILL TRY
TO ANSWER THIS REAL QUICK.
OKAY.
I LOVE THE VISION OF A 15
MINUTE CITY.
WE TALK ABOUT THIS.
A WORD WE USE TO TALK ABOUT IT
IS THE POWER OF PROXIMITY.
LIFE IS JUST EASIER WHEN STUFF
IS CLOSE.
IT IS EASIER, IT IS BETTER.
THERE IS A WHOLE HOST OF
REASONS.
SO PROXIMITY DOES HAVE A LOT OF
POWER.
AND I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT
YOU INCREASE PEOPLE'S QUALITY
OF LIFE WHEN YOU BRING THEM
INTO PROXIMITY WITH THE THINGS
THAT THEY NEED.
SO WHAT DO IT.
ABSOLUTELY.
TOTALLY SOLVED.
SO, NOW, LET'S SAY I AM ABLE TO
SIMPLY WALK, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR
90% OF WHAT I NEED.
IT IS LIFE WITHIN WALKING
DISTANCE.
WONDERFUL.
I AM BLESSED TO LIVE IN THIS
TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT.
THERE IS THIS 10% OF STUFF THAT
IS LIKE, THAT IS PRETTY
COMPLICATED SPECIAL TYPE OF A
THING.
I NEED TO HAVE AN MRI.
OR, OH, I NEED TO MEET WITH MY
FRIEND WHO LIVES IN A DIFFERENT
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE IS THAT 10% OF TIMES
WHERE YOU STILL NEED TO GO
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AM I SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CAR
THAT HAS JUST SAT THERE AND
DONE NOTHING FOR 90% OF MY LIFE
SO THAT I CAN TAKE THAT LAST
10% OF TRIPS?
I HAVE TO PAY ALL THAT JUST SO
I CAN TAKE THAT LAST 10% OF
TRIPS?
WHERE IS THIS CAR STORED?
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO COVER THAT
OVERHEAD IN TERMS OF THE
MACHINE ITSELF, THE INSURANCE?
THAT IS SIMPLY NOT EFFICIENT.
SO, EVEN IN THIS PARADISE OF
THE 15 MINUTE CITY, THERE IS A
NEED TO MOVE BETWEEN
NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE IS A NEED
TO MOVE FOR A REGIONAL MOBILITY
SOLUTION, AND WHAT IS NEEDED
FOR THAT TO BE A SHIRT
SOLUTION.
SHARED SOLUTION.
THAT IS TRANSIT.
WHAT TRANSIT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT
HOW THE NETWORK IS DESIGNED,
WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS,
WE HAVE A HISTORIC TRANSIT
MODEL THAT IS ORIENTED AROUND
SERVING THE JOURNEY TO AND FROM
WORK OF OFFICE WORKERS IN THE
DOWNTOWN.
THAT IS ONE TYPE OF TRAVELER
MAKING ONE TYPE OF TRIP.
SO THIS VISION OF CONNECTED 15
MINUTE CITIES, THIS IS MORE
KINDS OF TRAVELERS TAKING MORE
KINDS OF TRIPS TO AND FROM A
MORE DESTINATIONS.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT
RULES OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT
TRANSIT CAN BE CONSERVED FROM
ALL THOSE TRIPS.
IS THIS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE
WITHIN THAT NETWORK LOOK
SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT.
BUT THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT
EVEN ONCE EVERYTHING IS WITHIN
WALKING DISTANCE, ALL THAT
MEANS IS THAT ALL THAT TIME
THAT YOU USED TO SPEND
TRAVELING TO DO THE 90% OF LIFE
THAT IS NOW CLOSE, THAT JUST
FREES UP TIME TO POP AROUND AND
DO OTHER THINGS AND ENJOY LIFE
MORE.
YOU KNOW, DEMAND FOR MOBILITY
IS NOT THE SAME AS DEMAND FOR
FOOD OR WHATEVER.
I NEED TO EAT, AND WHEN I AM
FULL I AM GOOD.
BUT IT IS SUCH A BIG ROLE OF SO
MANY PEOPLE AND PLACES THAT I
CAN NEVER SEE AND TOUCH ENOUGH
OF IT.
SO PEOPLE HAVE VERY, VERY
ELASTIC DEMANDS FOR MOBILITY.
IF THERE IS MORE OF IT, PEOPLE
WANT MORE OF IT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT
UNDERSTANDING THAT ALREADY,
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, THE VAST
MAJORITY OF TRAVEL IN THE
UNITED STATES WAS NONWORK
TRAVEL AND THAT EVEN THOUGH
THAT WAS ALREADY A BIG MAJORITY
OF TRAVEL, IT WAS ALSO THE
FASTEST GROWING CATEGORY OF
TRAVEL.
WE SHOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED A
PANDEMIC TO TELL US THAT WE
NEED A MASS MOBILITY SOLUTION
THAT CONNECTS US ALL TO EACH
OTHER.
IT IS HARD TO DO THIS IN THE
MAJOR REGIONAL CONTEXT, SO WE
ARE FEELING OUR WAY TOWARDS
SOMETHING NEW.
SOMETHING LIKE A 15 MINUTE -- A
NETWORK OF 15 MINUTE
NEIGHBORHOODS.
IN MY RESEARCH, WE CALL THESE
ACTIVITY CENTERS.
TO CREATING A REGION THAT IS
BUILT AROUND A NETWORK OF THESE
NEW KINDS OF PLACES.
WE CAN DO IT.
IT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT FROM THE OLD MODEL.
>> YEAH.
I THINK THAT REALLY RESONATES.
SIMILAR TO TRACY, I REALLY DO
SUPPORT THESE 15 MINUTE
COMMUNITIES.
I LOVE TO SEE THOSE ADVANCES.
I WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE THAT
DIFFERENT KINDS OF MOVEMENT ARE
GOING TO OCCUR AND PUBLIC
TRANSIT IS OF TREMENDOUS VALUE
AND ECOLOGICAL VALUE TO REDUCE
OUR DRIVING IS SOMETHING THAT
SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED.
AS I AM LISTENING TO HER, I AM
THINKING ABOUT HOW CREATING
THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
COMMUNITIES REQUIRES A
REFRAMING OF HOW WE THINK OF
COMMUNITIES AND HOW WE THINK OF
HOW TRAVEL IS VALUABLE.
I THINK ABOUT THE SOCIAL
CONNECTIONS THAT TRAVEL ENABLES
BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT IS OF TREMENDOUS VALUE.
I THINK ABOUT, HOW DO WE NEED
TO SORT OF REFRAME THAT IN
ORDER TO MAKE THE CASE FOR
TRANSIT THAT IT HAS A NEW
PLACE.
WE HAVE SEEN AN EXAMPLE OF THAT
DURING THE PANDEMIC.
BUT THIS CAN BE SORT OF A NEW
WAY OF APPROACHING TRAVEL AND
HOW THAT PLACE IS IN OUR OWN
ECONOMY AS PEOPLE.
WE THINK OF ECONOMY AS THE
MANAGEMENT OF HOME.
THE MANAGEMENT OF OUR OWN DAILY
ACTIVITIES AND MOVEMENTS.
THAT IS ALL IT IS.
HOW DOES THAT LOOK DIFFERENTLY
IN A WORLD WHERE YOU DO NOT
HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY OVER
THERE TO WORK OR TO SUSTAIN
YOURSELVES?
AS INDIVIDUALS, HOW CAN I
CREATE MORE VALUE FOR US?
RIGHT?
IF I AM USING LESS TIME
TRAVELING TO WORK, THEN I CAN
GO SEE THINGS THAT INSPIRE ME
AND SEE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE.
AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN SAVE
THIS PLANET A LITTLE BIT OF
CO2.
>> RIGHT.
>> HOW IS THAT A NEW, VALUABLE
APPROACH TO TRAVEL AND HOW CAN
WE CREATE THAT?
THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN
CREATE.
I THINK THESE CONVERSATIONS AND
HAVING THAT ABILITY TO FREE
OURSELVES FROM BEING LOCKED
INTO A PARADIGM OF HAVING TO GO
DOWNTOWN FOR WORK, HAVING TO
THINK OF TRAVEL LIKE THIS, IS
IT REALLY EMPOWERING.
IT'S HOW WE CAN DO THAT WITH
MORE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS
AND THEN CONNECT WITH FOLKS TO
MAKE DECISIONS TO MAKE THOSE
THINGS IN REALITY.
>> YEAH.
I AM REALLY THINKING A LOT.
I ALSO SAT ON THE KING COUNTY
BOARD OF HEALTH.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE DISCUSSING
JUST YESTERDAY.
WE'RE TALKING WITH THE
COUNTIES' CLIMATE HEALTH
IMPACTS OF THE NEED TO GET
PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS.
YOU KNOW, AS A REGION, WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL PLANS
FOR, MAYBE NOT WALKABLE CITIES
OR NEIGHBORHOODS IN SOME OF OUR
SUBURBAN CITIES, BUT CERTAINLY
TALKING ABOUT THE NEED TO
INVEST IN MORE BIKE LANES AND
MORE SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE,
IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO
GET PEOPLE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR
RECREATION BECAUSE THAT IS GOOD
FOR PUBLIC HEALTH.
IN ADDITION TO REDUCING CARBON
EMISSIONS AND IN THE DISTRICT I
REPRESENT WHICH DOES HAVE SOME
AIR-QUALITY ISSUES, THAT IS
ALSO CONNECTED TO INSTANCES OF
ASTHMA AND OTHER HEALTH ISSUES.
LOTS OF DIFFERENT REASONS WHY
EVEN WITH OUR HOPE TO MOVE
TOWARD, YOU KNOW, A NETWORK OF
WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS, WE WILL
STILL NEED A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO
GET AROUND THAT IS EFFICIENT
AND CLEAN AND HOPEFULLY MORE
RELIABLE THAN SITTING IN
TRAFFIC FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
AS SOME OF US MUST DO ONCE AND
A WHILE.
WE ARE JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME.
TRACY, I WANT TO THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR BEING HERE, FOR
SHARING YOUR WISDOM, YOUR
EXPERIENCE, YOUR RESEARCH, THE
THINGS OF THAT YOU ARE WORKING
ON HERE IN SEATTLE WITH THE
COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN
WORKING WITH PEOPLE'S ECONOMY
LAB ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
THINGS AND I'M REALLY EXCITED
ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO
CONTINUE COLLABORATING WITH
YOU.
AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO --
TRACY, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO COME
TO SEATTLE SOON, I HOPE WE CAN
MAYBE CONVENE EVERYBODY
TOGETHER AND START DOING SOME
OF THIS WORK LOCALLY.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> I SURE HOPE SO.
>> SO I WANT TO THANK THE FOLKS
WHO ARE JOINING US TODAY.
WE ARE, AS I SAID, ALWAYS
LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS FOR
OTHER TOPICS.
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK
WITHIN THE SADDLE WITHIN REACH
CONVERSATION FOR AUGUST.
BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS OF
WHAT YOU WANT US TO TALK ABOUT
FOR THE SEPTEMBER EPISODE,
PLEASE DO LET US KNOW.
YOU CAN SEND COMMENTS,
SUGGESTIONS TO EVELYN CHOW.
YOU CAN ALSO FOLLOW THE SADDLE
WITHIN REACH CONVERSATION ON
SOCIAL MEDIA.
IF YOU WANT TO WATCH THE
SEGMENT AGAIN OR SHARE IT WITH
SOMEBODY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO
FIND IT ON MY COUNCIL WEBSITE
WHICH IS SEATTLE.GOV/COUNCIL/
AND I ALREADY SAID WE WILL BE
TAKING A BREAK IN AUGUST.
BUT COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER FOR
ANOTHER EPISODE OF SEATTLE
WITHIN REACH.
THANKS AGAIN FOR TRACY FOR
BEING WITH US.
IT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION AND
WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU AND
TALKING TO YOU AGAIN.
THAT IS ALL WE HAVE TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
US.
WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.