>>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD
MORNING. THE MAY 23rd MEETING O
THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND HUMAN
SERVICES COMMITTEE WILL COME TO
ORDER. IT IS 9:37 A.M. I'M LISA
HERBOLD, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> PRESENT.
>> VICE CHAIR EXCUSED.
COUNCILMEMBER HER WILL BOLD.
>> HERE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO ON
TODAY'S AGENDA, WE WILL BE
HEARING FOUR ITEMS. THE FIRST I
APPOINTMENT OF ADRIEN LEAVITT
FOR POLICE COMMISSION. THE
SECOND IS A BRIEFING ON OVERDOS
TRENDS FROM SEATTLE KING COUNTY
IN A PANEL FROM THE
COMMUNITY-BASED PREVENTION
PROGRAM. THE THIRD IS CONTINUED
DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED COUNCIL
BILL. WE'LL BE DOING AN
OVERVIEW OF THE BILL. AND
BEGINNING DISCUSSION AROUND THE
ISSUE, POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS THA
COUNCIL MEMBERS MIGHT WANT TO
PUT FORWARD. AND THE FOURTH ITE
ON TODAY'S AGENDA, IS THE POLIC
DEPARTMENT'S QUARTERLY STAFFING
PERFORMANCE METRIC AND FINANCE
REPORT, INCLUDING LIGHT TOUCH O
THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW. ON THE RECRUITMENT
PLAN FOR SPD. WITH THAT, WE WIL
APPROVE OUR ADJUDGEANDY FOR
TODAY'S MEETING. THERE'S NO
OBJECTION. TODAY'S AGENDA WILL
BE ADOPTED. HEARING NO
OBJECTION. TODAY'S AGENDA IS
ADOPTED. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL
TRANSITION INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WILL MODERATE THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD AS SUCH. EACH
SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN ONE AND A
HALF MINUTES TO SPEAK. I WILL
ALTERNATE BETWEEN VIRTUAL AND
IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENTS. I
WILL CALL ON EACH SPEAKER BY
NAME IN THE ORDER WHICH THEY
REGISTERED ON THE COUNCIL'S
WEBSITE. AND THE SIGN-IN FORM.
IF YOU HAVE NOT REGISTERED TO
SPEAK, BUT HAVE NOT DONE SO, YO
CAN SIGN UP BEFORE THE PUBLIC
COMMENT SESSION. ONCE I CALL A
SPEAKER'S NAME, ONCE YOU HEAR
THE OPTION, YOU WILL WILL HEAR
THE PROMPT. ONCE YOU HEAR THE
PROMPT, YOU WILL NEED TO PRESS
STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR
NAME AND THE ITEM YOU ARE
ADDRESSING. AND SPEAKERS WILL
HEAR A CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS AR
LEFT OF THE ALLOTTED TIME. ONCE
THE SPEAKER HEARS THE CHIME, WE
ASK THAT YOU BEGIN TO WRAP UP
YOUR COMMENTS. IF THE SPEAKERS
DO NOT END THE COMMENTS AT THE
END OF THE ALLOTTED TIME
PROVIDED, SPEAKER'S MIKE WILL B
MUTED AFTER 10 SECONDS TO ALLOW
US TO HEAR FROM THE NEXT
SPEAKER. ONCE YOU'VE CONCLUDED
YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ASK THA
YOU DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE.
BUT WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINU
FOLLOWING THE MEETING. AND YOU
CAN DO SO FROM THE SEATTLE
CHANNEL OR THE OPTIONS LISTED O
THE AGENDA. LET'S SEE. WE HAVE
EIGHT PEOPLE SIGNED UP
VIRTUALLY. AND -- NO, THAT'S
CHANGED. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE 10
PEOPLE SIGNED UP IN PERSON.
EIGHT PEOPLE VIRTUALLY. AND 18
PEOPLE IN TOTAL. AND I WILL
START --
>> CAN'T HEAR OUT HERE. YOU NEE
TO BE LOUDER OR HAVE THE SPEAKE
ON. I'M SORRY.
>> I WILL MOVE THE MIKE CLOSER.
I WILL READ THE TWO SPEAKERS'
NAMES AT A TIME. STARTING WITH
MICHAEL WOLFF, FOLLOWED BY KATI
WILSON.
>> MAYBE YOUR MIKE ISN'T ON? I
DON'T KNOW.
>> IT IS ON.
>> IT'S NOT BROADCASTING.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR HERBOLD
AND THE COMMUNITIES, THANK YOU
FOR GIVING ME OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF DRIVE FORWARD. HERE
TO ADDRESS. THE APP-BASED.
MEMBERS ARE ENCOURAGED BY
CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT. WE HAVE A
MAJOR CONCERN AS IT RELATES TO
THE CLAUSE ABOUT DEACTIVATION O
WORKERS FOR SAFETY REASONS
RELATED TO THIRD PARTIES. AND
HOW THEY COULD USE THAT BASED O
THEIR MOTOR VEHICLE RECORDS
CHECK IN THE BACKGROUND CHECK
PROCESS. WE FEEL THE CITY,
THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION SHOULD
SET A LOW-END LIMIT ON WHAT
WOULD CONSTITUTE A SAFETY
CONCERN BY THE APP COMPANY, AS
IT RELATES TO ACCUMULATION OF
TRAFFIC OR AT-FAULT ACTIONS. AP
COMPANIES COULD MAKE A POLICY
THAT SAYS ONE TICKET OR ONE
ACCIDENT INCREASES THE RISK OF
ENDANGERING THIRD PARTIES OR
RISK OF INCREASING LIABILITY OF
THE COMPANIES. OBVIOUSLY, I
DON'T THINK THAT IS COUNCIL'S
INTENT. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SE
SOME CLARIFICATION AROUND
MINIMUM STANDARDS, CONSTITUTING
A FAILED MOTOR VEHICLE RECORDS
CHECK, BASED ON ACCUMULATION OF
TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OR
INFRACTIONS. WE'D BE HAPPY TO
FURTHER DISCUSS THESE WITH YOU.
AND WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. AND NEXT
SPEAKER IS KATIE WILSON. AND
KATIE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
HUMBERTO SOUSA.
>> HELLO, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS KATIE WILSON. AND I'M
HERE REPRESENTING THE TRANSIT
RIDERS' UNION. TRC STRONGLY
SUPPORTS LEGISLATION TO PREPARE
UNFAIR ARBITRARY WORKERS. SOME
OF OUR WORKERS ARE APP-BASED.
AND MANY USE THESE SERVICES FOR
FOOD OR GROCERIES OR REGULAR
THINGS. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT TH
WORKERS WHO PROVIDE THESE
SERVICES ARE BEING PAID FAIRLY.
SO THANK YOU FOR PASSING THE
MINIMUM PAY LEGISLATIONMENT IT'
ALSO IMPORTANT TO US THAT THEY
ARE TREATED FAIRLY. AND THAT
MEANS NOT FACING ARBITRARY. I
THINK YOU CAN IMAGINE THE KIND
OF FEELING OF INSECURITY THAT
COMES AT ANY MOMENT FOR A REASO
THAT IS PERHAPS NOT UNDER YOUR
CONTROL. PLEASE PASS THIS
LEGISLATION IN THE STRONG FORM,
WORK WITH THE WORKERS WHO ARE
EXPERIENCING THESE ISSUES IN TH
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
ORGANIZING WITH THEM. AND LET'S
CONTINUE TO MAKE SEATTLE A
LEADER ON LABOR STANDARDS. THAN
YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
HUMBERTO SOUSA, FOLLOWED BY
MARIA HERNANDEZ.
>> I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE AD
CAMPAIGN. AND THE ACTIVATION
VIDEO PRESENTED TO YOU. DRIVE T
THE COMPANY UNTIL LATE 2021,
WHEN I GOT DEACTIVATED. DUE TO
CONFLICTED DELIVERY REQUIREMENT
. ALSO REQUIRED THAT I MAKE THE
DELIVERY AN HOUR. WITH NO
AVAILABLE SUPPORT, I DECIDED TO
COMPLETE THE DELIVERY WITHOUT A
SIGNATURE. AND WAS LATER
DEACTIVATED. IN SUMMER 2022.
JUST LIKE THE ACTIVATION FROM
THE ON-DEMAND APPS. THIS HAS
AFFECTED MY LIFE AND CAUSED
STRESS AND LOSS OF LIFE QUALITY
PRESERVES RIGHTS AS WORKERS.
CAUSING UNNECESSARY STRUGGLE FO
WORKERS WORKERS. SO PEOPLE LIK
ME DON'T USE THE WORD. .
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS MARIA HERNANDEZ, FOLLOWED BY
KEVIN BOLT. AND ANOTHER TIME ON
THE CLOCK, ACCOMPANYING MARIA'S
TESTIMONY. [ SPEAKING
NON-ENGLISH ]
[ SPEAKING NON-ENGLISH ]
[ SPEAKING NON-ENGLISH
>> HELLO, GOOD MORNING TO YOU
ALL. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME
THIS VALUABLE TIME TO SHARE MY
EXPERIENCE WITH DEACTIVATION
FROM DOOR DASH. I AM HERE TO
SUPPORT PREVENTING. I WAS MAKIN
DELIVERIES. MY APP BECAME SEMI
BLOCKED, TELLING ME IN VERY
TECHNICAL TERMS IF I DIDN'T
UNDERSTAND TO CALL CUSTOMER
SERVICE. I WAS FRUSTRATED.
BECAUSE I STARTED MY DAY WITH
THREE DELIVERIES AND THEY DID
THIS TO ME. WHAT SELL REALLY
DIFFICULT IS THEY RESPOND ONLY
IN TECHNICAL TERMS. YOU CANNOT
SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO GET
RECORD OF YOUR MILEAGE, PAYMENT
TIPS, ET CETERA. THIS IS NOT
BASED ON ME NOT HAVING ACCESS T
MY CAR. I HAVE REN FOR REJECTIN
DELIVERIES. PLEASE PASS THESE
PROTECTIONS FOR US GIG WORKERS.
>>> NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE KEVIN
BOLT, AND WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
KIMBERLY WOLF.
>> MY NAME IS KEVIN BOLT, A DIG
WORKER. DOOR DASH DEACTIVATED M
FOR COMPLAINTS. THEY PROVIDED N
DETAIL. THE FACT THAT DOOR DASH
DEACTIVATED ME MAKE ITS
DIFFICULT TO WORK FOR GIG
COMPANIES. I VALUE THE
PLEXIBILITY. THE FLEXIBILITY.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHICH POLICIES
COULD LEAD TO THIS. AND GOOD
JUDGMENT. IT IS REASONABLE TO
ANTICIPATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS COMPLAINTS THAT COULD
LEAD TO DEACTIVATION. BUT IT WA
NOT PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY. I
BELIEVE THE COUNCIL CAN
POSITIVELY AFFECT GIG POLICY BY
PASSING THE DEACTIVATION BILL.
WISH TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO TH
COUNCIL FOR THE TIME AND
CONSIDERATION. I APPRECIATE YOU
CONDITIONED SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT SPEAKER IS KIMBERLY
WOLF. AND FOLLOWED BY HOWARD
GAIL.
>> GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO
THANK THE COUNCIL , THE
COMMITTEE FOR THAL A HAVE BEEN
DOING FOR US. I LIKE T. I WOULD
REQUEST AN AGREEMENT TO
GRANDFATHERING THINGS IN. THERE
HAVE BEEN THINGS HAPPENING THE
LAST YEAR OR SO SINCE WE HAVE
BEEN DOING THIS. IT WOULD BE
NICE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT
EVEN IF JUST A GIG WORKER
PROVING THE ACTUAL DEACTIVATION
WAS CORRECT, ACCORDING TO THIS
LAW IF THEY WANT TO COME BACK.
OTHER THAN THAT, THIS IS A GREA
BEING PIECE OF LEGISLATION. I'M
SO PROUD OF YOU GUYS AND US AND
I COMPLETELY SUPPORT IT. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HOWARD
GAIL. AND HOWARD WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY ANNA POWELL. HOWARD
>> GOOD MORNING. HOWARD GAIL
WITH SEATTLE STOP.ORG. AND THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE TASK FORCE. TH
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION,
FEARFULORT SERVICE IT HOLDS. HA
BEEN VIOLATED ITS LONE LAWS.
SAKED FAMILY BE INS. APPARENTL
DOES NOT PROVIDE SUFFICIENT
PROTECTION FROM THE COMMUNITY.
JUST LAST WEEK IN THE PRESENCE
OF CPC COCHAIR. DIRECTOR CALLIE
ELLIS, ATTEMPTED TO PREVENT
FIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS,
INCLUDING TWO PEOPLE WHO
EXPERIENCED SPD HARM AND
VIOLENCE. MAKING BIZARRE CLAIMS
CONCERNING SEATTLE LAW,
ATTEMPTING TO SUPPRESS
FIRST-AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND
DEMANDING THAT WE LEAVE THE
PUBLIC SPACE. THE ONLINE VIDEO
NOW HAS OVER 1800 VIEWS. AFTER
OVER 10 YEARS OF THE CONSENT
DECREE, HOW DID WE GET HERE? IN
OVER A DECADE, YOU HAVE
CONSISTENTLY FAILED TO APPOINT
ONE SINGLE COMMISSIONER, WHO HA
DIRECTLY EXPERIENCED SPD
VIOLENCE. THIS IS WHY
COUNCILMEMBERS HERE HAVE
PREVENTED FROM GETTING STARTED
THE ONLY POTENTIAL CITY VOICE
FOR THOSE HARMED BY POLICE
VIOLENCE. THE NEW APT PROGRAM.
IT IS ALL ABOUT YOUR FEAR OF
CONFRONTING THE VICTIM OF FAILE
POLICIES. SEATTLE NEEDS A SYSTE
THAT PROVIDES FOR COMMUNITY
CONTROL OF POLICE, NOT A SYSTEM
THAT TRIES TO CONTROL THE
COMMUNITY.
>>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKE
IS ANNA POWELL. AND ANNA WILL B
FOLLOWED BY ALLISON FORD.
>> HI, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AN
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ON
PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES. MY NAME
IS ANNA POWELL. AND I'M WITH
DOOR DASH, A TECHNOLOGY COMPANY
THAT EMPOWERS THE LOCAL ECONOMY
I'M YEAR TO TALK ABOUT
DEACTIVATION. OB FOUR FUEL
DEACTIVATION POLICY CAN BE FOUN
ON OUR WEBSITE. WHERE AN
IMMEDIATE DEACTIVATION IS
NECESSARY TO PROTECT MERCHANTS
AND CUSTOMERS. WE APPRECIATE TH
COUNCIL'S WORK ON THE BILL THUS
FAR AND WANT TO ENSURE CHANGES
MADE CONTINUE TO PROTECT
CUSTOMERS AND MERCHANTS. FURTHE
CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE TO MAK
SURE THEY ARE SUBJECT TO
DEACTIVATION. COULD POTENTIALLY
SPUR UNSAFE ESCALATIONS WITH
EACH VERY LITTLE AND SOMETIMES
REDACTED INFORMATION. WE
APPRECIATE THE PROGRESS THAT
HEADACHE HAS BEEN MADE ON THE
BILL THUS FAR. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS ALLISON FORD. AND ALLISON
WILL BE FOLLOWED BY KATHERINE
HOLM. .
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR HERBOLD
AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. MY NAME
IS ALLISON FORD. I AM A PUBLIC
POLICY MANAGER FOR UPERIN
SEATTLE. I WANTED TO START BY
THANKING THE BILL'S SPONSORS FO
THEIR WILLINGNESS TO
COLLABORATE. WHILE WE APPRECIAT
THE INTENTIONS OF THIS POLICY,
WE ARE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT
SEVERAL PROVISIONS THAT COULD
SEVERELY LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO
ENSURE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR
CUSTOMERS. SMALL BUSINESS
PARTNERS AND DELIVERY WORKERS I
SEATTLE. AMONG OUR TOP CONCERNS
IS THE REQUIREMENT THAT
APP-BASED COMPANIES WOULD HAVE
TO RELEASE RECORDS THAT INCLUDE
PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE
INFORMATION OF CUSTOMERS AND
SMALL BUSINESSES. THIS PRESENTS
SERIOUS PRIVACY AND SAFETY
CONCERNS TO THE THOUSANDS ON OU
PLATFORM IN SEATTLE.
ADDITIONALLY, THE LIMITATIONS
THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE PUT ON
OUR ABILITY TO DEACTIVATE
DRIVERS WITH LOW RATINGS, RED
FLAGS IN BACKGROUND CHECKS AND
POTENTIALLY ALLOWING DRIVERS TO
REMAIN ON THE PLATFORM FOR TWO
WEEKS BEFORE THEY ARE
DEACTIVATED. ALSO POSE SERIOUS
SAFETY CONCERNS. OUR PRIMARY TO
SUSIS TO ENSURE THAT OUR
PLATFORM REMAINS SAFE TO USE AN
THAT WE CORRECT THE SAFETY OF
INDIVIDUALS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.
>>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS KATHERINE HOLM. AND KATHERIN
WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN
HIKER. KATHERINE?
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR HERBOLD
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. M
NAME IS KATHERINE HOLM. AND I A
THE WESTERN REGION DEPUTY
GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT AFFAIRS
FOR INSTACART. WE ARE HERE WITH
CONCERNS FOR THE DEACTIVATION
PROPOSAL. WHILE WHEEZE
APPRECIATE THE WORK DONE SO FAR
WE DO NOT BELIEVE IT HAS
ADDRESSED THE USE. MORE ARE
NEEDED FOR THE ORDINANCE TO WOR
FOR ALL GIG WORKERS, COMPANIES
AND RETAILERS. ONE OF OUR MAIN
CONCERNS IS THAT IT REQUIRES 14
DAYS NIGHT FOR BAD ACTORS. WE
BELIEVE THIS COULD HAMPER OUR
ABILITY. COULD CREATE A MODEL.
NO OTHER INDUSTRY HAS A 14-DAY
REQUIREMENT. SOMETIMES IMMEDIAT
ACTION IS NEEDED TO ATTRACT THE
EYEWITNESS NEWS . UNDER THE
CURRENT ALLEGATIONS, WE WOULD
NOT BE ABLE TO SUSPEND THEM. WE
WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WILLIAM
SUGGESTED AMENDMENT THIS WEEK.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING T
WORK ON THE NORDANCE WITH YOU
ALL TO ENSURE THAT SEATTLE CAN
REMAIN SAFE. THAK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS JUSTIN HIKER. AND JUSTIN WIL
BE FOLLOWED BY SARAH CLARK.
>>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
JUSTIN. THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING
ME A MINUTE TO EXPRESS THE
CONCERNS REGARDING THE
DEACTIVATION PROCESS. WE ARE A
RETAIL KECK COMPANY THAT
CONNECTS PEOPLE TO COMMUNITY.
AND WHILE WE'RE DEDICATED TO
PROVIDING ACCESS, BOTH SAFETY
AND SECURITY ARE I OUR TOP
PRIORITIES. IT IS IMPORTANT TH
EXPERIENCES DON'T RISK. AT
SHIFT, WE TAKE SHOPPER RELATION
SERIOUSLY. PROPOSED POLICY MAY
HAVE GOOD THOUGHTS. I'M HAPPY
TO BE WITH ANY OF YOU TO EXPLAI
THESE IN FURTHER DETAIL.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SARAH
CLARK. FOLLOWED BY ALEXIS
RODICH.
>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS
SARAH CLARK. ON BEHALF OF OUR
2500 PLUS MEMBERS, I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR OPPORTUNITY TO
PROVIDE COMMENT. WE HAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFET
IMPLICATIONS TO BOTH CUSTOMERS
AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT
ENGAGE WITH APP DELIVERY. THESE
THERE ARE PHYSICAL CONCERNS, I
AM HERE TO OPPOSE THIS
LEGISLATION IN ITS CURRENT FORM
AND URGE COUNCILMEMBERS TO
CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING POINTS.
TODAY TKHRUPB TPH÷UFRD WHITE SO
COMPANIES HAVE BEEN TRYING TO
CONTRAY IN A VARIETY OF WAY THE
VERY REAL PUBLIC SAFETY
ABILITIES. PRIVACY IS EQUALLY
÷RPBTD. WITH ACCESS TO DATA,
COULD COMPROMISE SAFETY. EACH
INSTALLMENT OF OUR RESEARCH
QUALITY INDEX CONTINUES TO SHOW
THAT THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE
CONCERN IN SEATTLE. LABOR AND
BUSINESS YOUNT HAVE THIS. LET'S
CARRY THAT PRES AGAINST FORWARD
TODAY.
>> THANK YOU. FOLLOWING ON THE
REMAINING VIRTUAL TESTIFIERS. W
HAVE ALEXIS RODICH AND JOHN
LEVIN. BUT THEY ARE BOTH SHOWIN
AS NOT PRESENT. I WILL GO BACK
TO THAT IF THAT CHANGES. BUT
WE'LL MOVE BACK ON TO IN PERSON
PUBLIC COMMENT WITH MARGUERITE
RASHARD NEXT. FOLLOWED BY ANDRE
LISTER PIERCE.
>> YES. PLY NAME IS MARGUERITE
RASHARD. AND I GUESS YOU COULD
CONSIDER ME A REGULAR DOWN HERE
UNTIL WE GET PROMOTED. MY
CONCERN IS LIKE WHAT HOWARD GAI
SAID. I HAVE BEEN ON THAT ROUTE
BEFORE. AND I'M VERY MUCH
CONCERNED THAT THEY HAVE A
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION AT
ALL THAT WOULD DICTATE TO US
WHEN WE CAN SPEAK AND WHEN WE
CANNOT SPEAK SAME RIFFRAFF DOWN
HERE. IT'S A SICKNESS F. YOU CA
COME UP WITH A NAME FOR THE
PANDEMIC. YOU CAN WHAT
THEY DO IN THO NOSE NEATINGS.
AROUND THE COUNTRY, THEY'RE
STILL FIGHTING THE FACT THAT
WE'RE NOT GETTING THE EQUAL
TREATMENT, UP UNDER THE LAW. AS
FAR AS INDIGENOUS BLACK PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T IN WE SIT THERE WIT
BLACK PEOPLE THAT DON'T ACT LIK
THEY KNOW THIS WAS BUILT ON
RACISM, COERCION AND WE'RE
SUPPOSED TO HAVE EQUAL TREATMEN
UP UNDER THE LAW? WHAT'S WRONG
WITH YOU? I'VE NEVER SEEN
ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE. IN
ALL OF MY DAYS. THAT'S WHY I
SUPPORT WHAT THAT MAN SAID ABOU
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GO THERE
AND WE TRY TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO
LOUSY MINUTES TO SAY SOMETHING,
AND YOU WON'T EVEN LET US HAVE
THAT. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
TELL THE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW,
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU, SO WE CA
GET ON WITH REAL BUSINESS.
>>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ANDREA
LISTER-PIERCE, FOLLOWED BY SHAN
TRES SCOTT.
>>> I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE
POLICE STAFFING OBVIOUSLY, WE
KNOW WE ARE UNDERSTAFFED.
HOWEVER, SOME OF THE ROOKIES OU
THERE ARE 10 YEARS OR LESS THAT
HAVE BEEN HERE CAN'T SEEM TO GE
TRAINED PROPERLY. THEY CAN'T
SEEM TO KNOW WHAT A CAR THIEF
LOOKS LIKE OR STOLEN CAR.
PEOPLE'S CARS ARE STOLEN EVERY
SINGLE DAY IN WEST SEATTLE. YOU
HAVE DONE US NO SERVICE, LISA
HERBOLD. YOU LIVE IN NORTH BEND
THEY'RE COMING OUT THERE, I
HEAR. HOWEVER, WEST SEATTLE IS
WRECK. THE ROADS. YOU NEED TO
HAVE POLICE POLICE. WE NEED TO
GET RID OF SOME OF THE
ADMINISTRATION OLD-SCHOOL BOYS.
MIND YOU, YOU GOT RID OF WILLIA
ASKEW, WHO ABUSED PEOPLE
CONSTANTLY, O.P.A. AND NOW HE'S
TRAINING LAWENFORCEMENT. IS THA
NOT JUST TOTALLY WRONG? POLICE
NEED TO REALIZE SEATTLE'S PLACE
ARE MESSED UP. THE YOUNG GUYS
COMING IN WANT TO HELP. THEY
WANT TO DO THEIR JOB. GIVE THEM
POWER TO DO THEIR JOB. FAIRLY,
EQUALLY. NOT AGAINST PEOPLE OF
COLOR. NOT THE PROFILING. JUDGE
HOBARTS IS WATCHING. IT'S GOING
TO BE THERE WE ARE NOT AN
EXAMPLE TO THE CITY. OUR POLICE
ARE ALL MESSED UP. YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE SHOOTINGS ON THE BEACH. WE
CAN'T GET THE PWAOEUPL BEECH
PATROLLED. WE NEED TO BRING THE
PEOPLE. COMMUNITY POLICING IS T
ASSIST THE COMMUNITY. AND IT'S
TO ENGAGE AND BE A BROAD
COERCION OF ALL THE PEOPLE AND
THE POLICE TO BE A POSITIVE.
>> MS. LISTER-PIERCE, YAO TIME
IS UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND
I LIVE IN HIGHLAND PARK AND I'V
LIVED THERE SINCE 2000. NOW, SH
DOES NOT. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
NOT TRUE. THAT'S A LIE.
>> I LIVE IN HIGHLAND PARK. I
HAVE LIVED THERE -- I'VE LIVED
THERE FOR 23 YEARS.
>> THE INCREASE SPEAKER IS NOW
SHOWING UP AS PRESENT. AND
THAT'S ALEXIS RODICH. I'M SORRY
SHANE. YOU'RE NEXT. COME ON UP.
SHANE TRESSCOTT. MY APOLOGIES.
AND SHANE WILL BEFIELD.
>> GOOD MORNING ISSUE MEMBERS O
THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SHANE
TRES COT. WE'RE A LONG TERM
WORKERS CARE UNION. I'M HERE TO
EXPRESS ON OUR STRONG SUPPORT T
PROTECT GIG WORKERS. OUR UNION
HAS LONG SOUGHT TO ESTABLISH
FAIR LABOR PRACTICES. ESPECIALL
WHOSE WHO ARE LEFT BEHIND .
MAKES WORK BETTER FOR THEM AND
MAKES THE SPHAE STRONGER FOR AL
OF US. WE THANK THE COUNCIL FOR
THE WORK IT HAS DONE. AND NO
UPON ACCESS TO SICK TIME. THIS
DEACTIVATION RIGHTS ORDINANCE I
AN ESSENTIAL PART FOR MAKING
GOOD ON THESE KP-LSS. WE'VE
HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF WORKERS
TODAY KWHROFPLT HAVE UNDERSCORE
THE FACT THAT THEY CANNOT DO
WELL IF UNFAIR ACCUSATIONS
CONTINUE TO SHUT THEM OUT OF A
VITAL SOURCE OF INCOME WITHOUT
ANY EXPLANATION. WORKERS HAVE
SHARED IT IS A PROBLEM ACROSS
ALL APPS. CITIZEN LIKE BEING
FIRED WITHOUT WARNING CORE
CAUSE. THIS POLICY IS A WELL
THOUGHT OUT SOLUTION. IT BUILDS
KNOW EXPERT TISE LIKE SICK TIM
IS HAZARD PAY AND WE ARE --
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALEXIS
RODICH. AND AFTER ALEXIS, WE
HAVE DANIELLE ALVARADO.
>> HELLO, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY
NAME IS ALEXIS RODITCH. AND I'M
HERE TO TESTIFY AS A LABOR
STANDARDS COMMISSION. TASKED
WITH LABOR STANDARDS. TODAY, I'
TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF LSAC.
THIS ORDINANCE IS A CRITICAL
ORDENANCE. IT'S CONNECTED TO AN
STRENGTHENS THE OTHER
INITIATIVES PREVIOUSLY PASSED B
COUNCIL IN THIS AREA. IT CLOSES
A BIG LOOPHOLE, WHERE COMPANIES
CAN SIMPLY SKIRT REQUIREMENTS.
THIS LEGISLATION IS INNOVATIVE
IN ITS APPROACH TO THIS ISSUE.
FOCUSES ON CHANGES AT THE
COMPANY LEVEL NAHELPS PREVENT
MASS DEACTIVATIONS. WHILE ALSO
PROVIDING CLEAR RIGHTS. WE
ANTICIPATE THIS APPROACH WHILE
ALSO KEEPING MANY GIG WORKERS.
>> AND THEIR EFFORT TO MAKE
SEATTLE THE BEST PLACE IN THE
COUNTRY TO BE A GIG WORKER.
THANKS.
>>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS DALG UTAFTER THE VARA RADO.
THIS IS A LAST CALL FOR JOHN
LEVIN. IF JOHN LEVIN DOES NOT
SHOW PRESENT BY THE TIME
DANIELLE ALVARADO IS DONE
SPEAKING, WE WILL SUSPEND PUBLI
COMMENT.
>> I'M THRILLED TO BE HERE TODA
FOR THE DISCUSSION, INTRODUCTIO
LATER TODAY OF OUR DEACTIVATION
ORDINANCE. TREMENDOUS IMPACTS O
WORKERS WHO ARE DEACTIVATED.
>> THE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS WE
HAVE MADE TOGETHER ON
ESTABLISHING MINIMUM WAGES AND
SICK TIME HAVE ONLY ADDRESSED
THE PROBLEM OF DEACTIVATION. I
FIRST WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE
QUITE PLEASED WITH THE DIRECTIO
OF THE POLICY SO FAR AND ARE
AVAILABLE AND INVESTED IN
CONTINUE AND ARE WORKING ON IT.
>> MAKING SURE WHILE WE PROCESS
WHAT IS MEANINGFUL AND FAIR, AN
A BIG PART OF WHAT IS MISSING
WITH HOW DEACTIVATION CURRENTLY
FUNCTIONS. THEY HAVE OPPORTUNIT
TO HAVE O.L.S. PLAY A CRITICAL
ROLE IN STRATEGIC AND
ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY. STRENGTHE
THE GOVERNMENT. AND ALSO, I JUS
WANT TO SAY SAFETY OBJECTIVES
THAT WE CAN MEET TOGETHER. AND
WE CAN ADDRESS NOT ONLY SAFETY
AS IT HAS BEEN ARTICULATED TODA
BUT THE INSECURITY WHEN PEOPLE
LOSE THEIR WORK WHEN THERE IS N
OPPORTUNITY TO MEANINGFULLY
CHALLENGE THAT DECISION.
>>> WITH THAT, WE WILL END
PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO
OUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. AGENDA
ITEM 1.
>> AGENDA ITEM 1. 02504.
APPOINTMENT OF ADRIEN G. LEAVIT
AS I POLICE COMMISSIONER FOR A
TERM DECEMBER '21 TO '23. WE
HAVE COCHAIR JOEL MERKEL. AND
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE WITH
US THIS MORNING. BEFORE WE GET
INTO THE APPOINTMENT. CAN YOU
PLEASE SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE
WORK THAT THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION DOES. AND THEN
PRESENT AT THIS TIME
APPOINTMENTS FOR US TODAY.
>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING,
COUNCILMEMBERS. AND THANK YOU
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY.
CONFIRMING ADRIEN LEAVITT TO TH
SOUTH COMMUNITY RESERVED FOR TH
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC DEFENSE. M
NAME IS JOEL MERKEL. I AM
ASSISTANT COMMUNITY COCHAIR. AN
I'M PLEASED TO INTRODUCE ADRIEN
LEAVITT TODAY. WHEN THE CITY
COUNCIL APPROVED THE LANDMARK.
CPC, A PERMANENT AND INDEPENDEN
BASED OVERSIGHT ENTITY. WITHIN
SEATTLE'S POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY
AND THE CPC IS EMPOWERED UNDER
THE CONSENT DECREE. TO PROVIDE
COMMUNITY INPUT ON POLICE
REFORM. IT ALSO WIDELY RESERVED
A COMMISSIONER POSITION TO
SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTS THE
PUBLIC CAPTAIN OF DEFENSE. THAT
IS ESSENTIAL POSITION THAT HELP
THE CDC FULFILL ITS MISSION TO
ENSURE THAT THE POLICE AND THE
MUSTN'TS ARE ALIGNED AND ENSURE
GOALS OF SAFETY, RESPECT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY. RIGHT NOW IS AN
IMPORTANT TIME FOR THE CPC. WE
ARE ALMOST FULLY STAFFED WITH
THE NEW TEAM THAT IS BRINGING
TALENT, ENERGY AND COMMITMENT T
OUR WORK. AND THANKS TO THE CIT
COUNCIL, WE HAVE WELCOMED SIX
NEW COMMISSIONERS SINCE LAST
FALL. AND WITH ADRIEN'S
APPOINTMENT, WE HAVE A NEW
INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO
IS ELEVATING THE PROFESSIONALIS
AND PRODUCTIVITY OF THE
COMMISSION. AND NOW THAT OUR
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM IS
FULLY STAFFED, WE ARE FOCUSED O
COMMUNITY TEAM MEMBERS TO FOCUS
ON THEIR CONCERNS. AND THE
ONGOING WORK ENGAGING WITH THE
COMMUNITY, SHARING INFORMATION
ABOUT THE CPC IS CRITICAL TO
BUILDING THAT COMMUNITY TRUST.
AND ALL OF THIS NEW TALENT AND
ENERGY COULD NOT COME AT A
BETTER TIME. NEXT WEEK IS THE
FEDERAL COURT HEARING TO
CONSIDER THE CITY'S REQUEST THA
WILL ESSENTIALLY LEAD TO THE
ENDING OF THE CONSENT DECREE.
AND RETURN PRIMARY
RESPONSIBILITY TO THE POLICE AN
THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS WHY
AM SO EXCITED THAT THE COUNCIL
IS CONSIDERING ADRIEN LEAVITT T
THE DPD COMMISSION. THE
COMMUNITY IS FORTUNATE TO HAVE
SOMEONE LIKE ADRIEN WILLING TO
SERVE. I'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW
PERSONAL MARKS ABOUT ADRIEN.
I'VE KNOWN ADRIEN, PERSONALLY
AND PROFESSIONALLY FOR A COUPLE
OF YEARS. ADRIEN HAS BEEN A
FANTASTIC DEFENSE ATTORNEY. IN
THE COURTS AND KING COUNTY.
ETHICALLY AND ZEALOUSLY, AND
VERY EFFECTIVELY REPRESENTING
HIS CLIENTS. I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN
IN TRIAL WITH ADRIEN MANY TIME
GOES HAD MANY CASES WITH ADRIEN
AND MY WORK AS AN ATTORNEY. AND
I'M VERY PROUD ADRIEN IS WILLIN
TO SERVE. I ALSO THINK WHAT IS
REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THA
THE NEW INQUEST SYSTEM, WHICH
INVOLVES, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY
A COURT HEARING, EVALUATING AN
INCIDENT OF POLICE-INVOLVED
SHOOTING AND THE DEATH OF A
MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY, ADRIEN
WAS ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS ON THE
VERY FIRST INFEST, ON THE NEW
SYSTEM. INVOLVING A MEMBER OF
OUR COMMUNITY THAT WAS KILLED B
POLICE. SO WITH THAT BACKGROUND
AND WITH ADRIEN'S PROFESSIONAL
BACKGROUND, THE CPC IS GAINING
TREMENDOUS COMMISSIONER. I'M
PLEASED TO BE SITTING NEXT TO
ADRIEN.
>> THANK YOU, ADRIEN. I WANT TO
HAND IT OVER TO YOU TO YOU A
CHANCE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AN
SERVE ON THE CPC AS THE
DESIGNATED PUBLIC DEFENSE
REPRESENTATIVE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND GOOD
MORNING. THANK YOU FOR TAKING
THE TIME THIS MORNING TO HEAR
ABOUT MY INTEREST IN SERVING AS
COMMISSIONER FOR CPC. THANK YOU
TO JOEL FOR THE REMARKS THIS
MORNING. I'M HONORED TO BE
CONSIDERED TO BE APPOINTED FOR
CPC. AND DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
-DESIGNATED SEATS. COMMUNITIES
IMPACTED WHEN IT COMES TO POLIC
OVERSIGHT AND REFORM HERE IN
SEATTLE. MY INTEREST AND
ORIENTATION TO THESE ISSUES
COMES OVERWHELMINGLY FROM MY
WORK IN PUBLIC DEFENSE. FOR THE
LAST 12 YEARS, I HAVE WORKED AS
ATTORNEY FOR THE DEFENSE. OVER
THOUSAND PEOPLE, CHARGED WITH
CRIMES, THROUGHOUT KING COUNTY
AND SEATTLE. THIS IS FROM THE
LOWEST LEVEL OF CRIMES THAT IS
CHARGED IN OUR JURISDICTION TO
THE MOST SERIOUS TYPES OF CRIME
CHARGE THE IN THE CITY. AND
THROUGHOUT THIS WORK, I HAVE
DEVELOPED DEEP AND COMPLEX
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW POLICING
IMPACTS MY CLIENTS. BUT ALSO,
BEYOND MY CLIENTS, TO THEIR
FAMILIES AND TO THEIR
COMMUNITIES GENERALLY. IN
ADDITION TO MY WORK,
REPRESENTING INDIVIDUALS CRIME
CHARGED WITH CRIMES AS JOEL
MENTIONED, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE
OF REPRESENTING A YOUNG MAN
KILLED BY POLICE OFFICERS IN
2017. AND I REPRESENTED THAT
FAMILY THROUGH THE INQUEST,
WHICH IS THE LEGAL PROCEEDING
THAT FOLLOW A DEATH OF A
COMMUNITY MEMBER BY POLICE. AND
THIS WAS UNDER THE NEW RULES FO
INQUEST PROCEEDINGS. AND PERHAP
MOST CRITICALLY. IF A FAMILY
CANNOT AFFORD TO RETAIN A
ATTORNEY, THEY WERE NOT
REPRESENTED. THIS WORK IN THE
INQUEST GAVE ME UNIQUE INSIGHT
INTO THE PRACTICES WHEN IT COME
TO USE OF FORCE AND DEADLY USES
OF FORCE. IT ALLOWED ME A WINDO
TWO THE WAYNE THAT RIPPLES
THROUGH A IT COMMUNITY. IN
ADDITION TO MY WORK IN PUBLIC
DEFENSE, I'VE DEDICATED MY TIME
TO SERVE THE TRANSGENDER
COMMUNITY THROUGH FREE,
COMMUNITY-BASED CIVILLING AND
LEGAL SERVICES. AND THAT HAS LE
TO EXPERTISE. I TEACH A CLASS A
WASHINGTON SCHOOL OF LAW. MY
CLASS IS OVERWHELMINGLY FOCUSED
ON POLICEs POLICING. I'M EAGE
TO FURTHER THE CPC'S MISSION.
AS WE LOOK AT IMTPHREPLTS POLIC
INEQUITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME THIS MORNING AND YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. YOU
DEFINITELY BRING VERY IMPORTANT
EXPERT TISE TO THE COMMISSION.
MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
>> SURE.
>> IF APPOINTED, WHAT DO YOU SE
AS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIK
TO REALLY DIVE IN AND WORK ON
ACCOMPLISHING?
>> SHIRE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN ISSUES
OF USE OF FORCE AND DEADLY USES
OF FORCE AND HOW WE CAN WORK TO
HAVE POLICE THAT PROTECT THE
COMMUNITY, BUT NEVER HAVE TO GE
TO THE POINT OF USING, FRANKLY,
ANY USES OF FORCE, LET ALONE
DEADLY USES OF FORCE. I
UNDERSTAND THE CPC RECENTLY HAD
OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW SOME OF THE
NEW TECHNOLOGY POLICE ARE
CONSIDERING IMPLEMENTING. I'M
INTERESTED IN LEARNING WHAT
PROCESSES GO BEHIND THAT, IN
BRINGING THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS I REPRESENT
THROUGH MY WORK TO CONT PLATE
WHAT THESE TOOLS COULD MEANER
TPEURTS COMMUNITY? THANK YOU.
IF THEIR NO FURTHER QUESTIONS,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVING. IS
THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S BEEN
MOVED AND RECOMMENDED OF ADRIEN
LEAVITT TO POLICE COMMISSION.
ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?
CHECKING ONLINE.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> AYE.
>> NELSON?
>> AYE.
>> PEDERSEN. FOUR YES.
>> THIS WILL MOVE ON TO THE FUE
COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY MAY
30th. YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO
ATTEND.
>> AGENDA ITEM TO OVERDOSE
TRENDS AND COMMUNITY-BASED
OVERDOSE PREVENTION PROGRAM.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. CLERK
WHILE PEOPLE ARE JOINING US AT
THE TABLE, I JUST WANT TO THANK
EVERYBODY FOR JOINING US HERE I
PERSON THIS MORNING TO TALK
ABOUT OVERDOSE TRENDS. NOW THAL
WE'RE ALL SEATED, WE COULD DO
SOME VERY BRIEF PRODUCTIONS AND
I'LL HAVE OPEN REMARKS AND HAND
IT OFF TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR HERBOLD. MY
NAME IS BRAD FINEGOOD, I'M WITH
PUBLIC HEALTH, KING COUNTY. I'M
JOINED TODAY BY SOME OF OUR
AMAZING COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO
WORK AND RUN COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS. I WILL LET THEM
INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
>> MY NAME IS AMBER. MY PRONOUN
ARE SHE/HER.
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
LAURA WIRKMAN. MY PRONOUNS ARE
SHE OR THEY. MY NAME IS
MICHELLE CONLEY. I USE SHE/HER
PRONOUNS AND I WORK FOR
EVERGREEN AS DIRECTOR OF
INTEGRATED CARE.
>> FANTASTIC. THANK YOU ALL FOR
BEING WITH US HERE TODAY. I'M
REALLY EXCITED AND THRILLED TO
BRING FORWARD THIS PRESENTATION
WHILE NOTING THAT TUGUYS ARE
DOING FANTASTIC WORK, BUT WE
HAVE A LOT OF CRISES IN OUR
COMMUNITY. TO DO WHAT WE COULD
ON A CITY BASIS AT THE TIME SOT
SAVE LIVES FROM OVERDOSE IN
2018. AND WE PROTECTED THOSE
DOLLARS YEAR AFTER YEAR. WE SAW
THESE IN A COMPETITIVE HFB. AS
RESULT, THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS
REPRESENTATIVED HERE TODAY.
THEY RECEIVE FUNDING TO COMBAT
OVERDOSE DEATHS IN OUR
COMMUNITY. AND I'M SO, AGAIN,
GREATFUL FOR YOU UPON JOINING
US TODAY. WE'LL RECEIVE MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT PUBLIC
HEALTH'S APPROACH TO THESE
OVERDOSE PREVENTION GRANTS.
>> I WANT TO LEAD OFF BY A
COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS, WE AR
IN THE MIDST OF AN UNPRECEDENTE
OVERDOSE CRISIS. I WILL SAY,
WITHOUT A SHADOW OF THE DOUBT
WITHOUT THE FUNDS THE CITY OF
SEATTLE HAS ADMITTED AND WITHOU
THE AMAZING WORK THAT THIS
OVERDOSE CRISIS COULDN'T BE THA
MUCH WORSE. ADDITIONALLY, I'LL
SAY THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HAR
REDUCTION, I AM A FIRM BELIEVER
THAT IT IS TREATMENT. IT'S
TREATMENT THAT PEOPLE WANT, ARE
WILLS TO RECEIVE AS PART OF THA
CARE CONTINUUM. IN ORDER TO KEE
PEOPLE ALIVE. I'M GOING TO STAR
OFFER WITH THIS QUOTE, TO
UNDERSTAND LANDSCAPE OF WHAT
WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY. ALL O
A SUDDEN, YOU CAN SYNTHESIZE
HUNDREDS OF COMB POUNDS AND SEE
WHAT DOES THE BEST OF MARKET.
AND WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT?
BECAUSE OUR DRUG LANDSCAPE IS
CHANGING EXTREMELY FAST. WE ARE
CONSTANTLY HAVING TO BE REACTIV
TO WHAT IS NEXT. AND WITHOUT MY
PARTNERS ON THE FRONT LINES, WE
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ADAPT AND
CHANGE AND WORK WITHIN OUR
COMMUNITY. COUPLE OF POINTS OF
DATA. WE KNOW THAT FENTANYL IS
DRIVING THIS OVERDOSE CHRYS. IN
2017, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED
DOING A LOT OF THIS WORK, AROUN
SURVEILLANCE AND DRUG USE
RESPONSE. WE HAD THREE FENTANYL
OVERDOSE DEATH NEGLIGENCE OUR
COUNTY. LAST YEAR, WE HAD OVER
700 DEATHS LOCALLY IN KING
COUNTY. IT SELL JUST ASTOUNDING
NOTING THAT THAT NUMBER IS UP
THREE FOLD IN THE PAST SIX OR
SEVEN YEARS. WHEN WE LOOK AT
WHERE ARE OVERDOSE DEATHS
HAPPENING? IT'S EXTREMELY EASY
TO SEE THAT THERE'S A HUGE
ESCALATION OF OVERDOSE DEATHS I
THE CITY. THIS IS A SUPER
UNFORTUNATE EVENT. BUT WE ALSO
KNOW THIS IS PRIMARILY DRIVEN B
FENTANYL. AND OFTEN WITHIN OUR
UNHOUSED POPULATION. THOUGH IT
IS GROWING IN THE COMMUNITY AND
COUNTY, YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACT.
JUST ADD REAL QUICK. THIS IS
AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY. IT'S
REALTIME OVERDOSE DATA,
AVAILABLE ON OUR PUBLIC HEALTH
WEBSITE, ON KING
COUNTY.GOV/OVERDOSE. IT'S ALSO
IMPORTANT TO SET UP RACIAL
DISPARITIES. YOU CAN SEE OUR
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR ARE DYING
AT AN ALARMING RATE. NATIVE
AMERICANS ARE DYING AT NEARLY
FIVE TIMES THE RATE OF THAT OF
WHITE INDIVIDUALS LAST YEAR.
THAT NUMBER IS ESCALATING
TREMENDOUSLY FAST. OUR BLACK
COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE DYING AT
APPROXIMATELY THREE TIMES THE
RATE OF WHITE INDIVIDUALS. AND
OTHER RACIAL ETHNIC FRIENDS LIK
LATIN X AND HISPANIC PEOPLE AND
MULTIPLE RACE. PEOPLE WHO
IDENTIFY AS MULTIPLE RACE ARE
ALSO DYING AT A DISPROPORTIONAT
RATE. SO THE RESOURCES THAT YOU
WERE TALKING ABOUT COUNCILMEMBE
HERBOLD. WE HAVE LOVINGLY CALLE
THEM THE COMMUNITY-BASED
OVERDOSE PREVENTION PROGRAM;
THERE WAS AN RFP RAN AND OUR
COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE. THE
REACH PROJECT. THE HEPATITIS
PROJECT. AND THE THREE
SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATES. SO I'LL
LET THEM TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT THE WORK THAT THEY'R
DOING BECAUSE IT IS TRULY
AMAZING. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT TH
OVERALL IMPACT OF THESE
RESOURCES. WE CAN REALLY START
TO SEE HOW THIS HAS AHEAD A
SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE FOR THOS
WHO ARE STRUGGLING THE MOST. AN
THOSE THAT ARE THE MOST
VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS. THEY'VE
DISTRIBUTED MORE THAN 20,000
HARM REDUCTION KITS. WE'VE
INCREASED REGIONED AND
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES,
THROUGH SMALLER BASED
ORGANIZATION. THROUGH MUTUAL AI
WORK. THAT HAS REALLY BECOME A
VERY BIG PART OF THE EQUITY
FOCUS THAT WE HAVE BEEN LEANING
INTO. WE'VE BUILT A COMMUNITY
DRUG TRACKING COMMUNITY PRACTIC
THAT AT LEAST TWO OF OUR
AGENCIES PARTICIPATE IN. AND
WE'VE REALLY WORKED TO INCREASE
MULBERRY ACCESS TO MEDICATIONS
THAT WE KNOW WORK FOR PEOPLE
WITH OPIATE USE DISORDER. AND
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER
TO AMBER FROM THE HEPATITIS
EDUCATION PROJECT. THANK YOU.
AND BEFORE WE MOVE OVER TO THE
PANEL, I JUST WANT TO FRAME UP,
SORT OF PROCESS THIS DISCUSSION
I'LL FACILITATE THE PANEL BY
ASKING A FEW ROUNDS OF QUESTION
AND INVITE RESPONSES. I'LL HAVE
THREE QUESTIONS AND GIVE
EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. AND THE
AFTER THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO
COUNCILMEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS AT
THE END. SO THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE THE OPENING. BRAD,
THINK THE FIRST QUESTION THAT I
THINK WILL BE HELPFUL FOR THE
PANEL TO ADDRESS, AND MAYBE YOU
CAN FOLD INTO A SUMMARY OF WHAT
YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES. BUT THE
FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT
ARE THE PRINCIPLES OF HARM
REDUCTION? AND HOW IS IT? OR IS
IT DIFFERENT FROM SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER TREATMENT.
>> JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME
I WANTED TO PUT THAT QUESTION
OUT. BUT FEEL FREE TO GO INTO
WHAT YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES.
>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD FOR HER
CHAMPIONING OUR WORK AND SMART
AND COMPASSIONATE DRUG POLICY.
SO AT HEPATITIS EDUCATION
PROJECT. OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS
HEP. WE BELIEVE THAT HERM IS
MORE THAN PHILOSOPHY. IT'S
ACTION. IT'S ACCESS TO SAFE
SUPPLIES FOR SMOKING AND
INJECTING. IT'S DRUG CHECKING,
WHICH IS A PERSONAL -- I'M A
HUGE PROPONENT OF DRUG CHECKING
AND I CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT
DRUG CHECKING AND ALL DAY, IF
YOU HAVE EXTRA QUESTIONS. BUT
ESSENTIALLY, DRUG CHECKING IS
USING SEVERAL DIFFERENT METHODS
OF INSTRUMENTS TO VERIFY THE
CONTENTS OF A PERSON'S DRUG
SAMPLE. WE KNOW THAT THE
UNREGULATED DRUG MARKET, LIKE
BRAD SAID IS VERY VOLATILE. IT
CHANGES ALMOST DAILY. SO IT IS
METHOD OF HARMY REDUCTION BY
WHICH WE CAN GIVE PEOPLE ACCESS
TO SAVE SAFE SUPPLY. COMMUNITY
PARTNERSHIPS REPRESENT WHAT WE
FEEL IS A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF
HARM REDUCTION. WE WERE ALSO
ABLE TO CHECK SERVICES AND
SUPPLIES TO GENDER EXPANSIVE.
AND WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO BEEF
UP OUR MUTUAL AID PROGRAM
THROUGH SOME OF THESE MONIES.
I'LL STOP THERE.
>> SO I THINK IN TERMS OF
PRINCIPLES OF HERM REDUCTION.
AND THE WORK WITH OUR COLLEAGUE
IS BOTH A HEAD APPROACH AND
HEART APPROACH. SO FROM THE
STANDPOINT OF PRACTICAL,
PRAGMATIC APPROACHES TO
SUBSTANCE USE. AND REDUCING THE
HARMS RELATED TO ONE'S USE.
ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE. THINGS
THAT WILL IMPROVE A PERSON'S
OVERALL WELL BEING. ENGAGING
THEM IN COMMUNICATION I THINK
THERE IS ALSO THIS HEART-BASED
APPROACH. WHICH IS THAT PEOPLE
COME TO DRUG USE BASED ON
DIFFERENT AND VARIOUS. NOT
HAVING ADEQUATE ACCESS TO MEET
PERSON'S NEEDS. ENDING UP ON TH
STREETS. THE REACH PROGRAM
PROVIDES FOCUS ON THOSE WHO ARE
UNSHELTERED. BECAUSE IN OUR
TYPICAL OUTPATIENT MEDICAID
FUNDED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
SYSTEMS. OFTENTIMES, THOSE ARE
LEFT OUT. BECAUSE THEY DON'T
HAVE WHAT THEY NEED EVERY DAY T
TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES TO CATC
A BUS, TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE
GOING IT SEEP THAT NIGHT TO MAK
AN APPOINTMENT, WHICH IS HOW OU
MEDICAID SYSTEM FUNDS. SO REACH
RELIES ON FUNDING THAT IS
FLEXIBLE IN THIS WAY TO PROVIDE
THESE SERVICES TO PEOPLE WHERE
THEY ARE, WITHOUT JUDGMENT IN A
WAY THAT BRINGS THEM INSIDE AND
OFTENTIMES, WHERE WE HAVE TO
BRING THESE PEOPLE INTO IS
LIMITED. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE NO
PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO IT IS
DESIGNED FOR THEM IN OUR CITY.
AND THAT IS A CRITICAL NEED.
IT'S BOTH A HEAD AND A
HEART-BASED APPROACH TO ENGAGIN
WITH PEOPLE. WITH THIS PROJECT,
WE WERE ABLE TO FUND
COORDINATOR, AS WELL AS TWO
MEDICAL PROVIDERS THAT WAS A
SPLIT POSITION. WE WERE ABLE TO
MERGE THE TWO SIDES OF OUR
ORGANIZATION. ONE WHICH WAS A
METHADONE PROVIDER. WITH OUR
REACH-BASED SERVICES.
INTERESTING THAT IT TOOK A GRAN
TO PROVIDE THIS KIND OF SUPPORT
BUT IT WAS VERY CRITICAL.
BECAUSE OUR CLINIC SERVICES SID
IS MEDICAID. BECAUSE WE ARE
PROVIDING THOSE STREET-BASED
SERVICES. IT WAS BENEFICIAL TO
BRING THEM IN THE FIELD WITH US
AND WE SAW THAT TO BE REALLY
TRANSFORMATIVE. MEDICAL PROVIDE
WHO HAS INVESTED IN THEIR CARE.
WHERE THEY WERE LITERALLY UNDER
BRIDGES IN AURORA, OR RVs IN
GEORGETOWN. WE STARTED THIS
PROJECT BY ENGAGING PEOPLE WITH
A SURVEY. THAT SURVEY TOLD US A
LOT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF HOUSING
INSTABILITY ON DRUG USE. PEOPLE
REPORTING THEY WERE INCREASING
THEIR USE AS A RESULT OF
HOMELESSNESS. THE AMOUNT OF
OVERDOSE THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING
IS TREMENDOUS. AND THE TRAUMA
AND IMPACTS THAT WE ARE GOING T
INDEED CONTINUE TO PROVIDE
SERVICES TO AS A RESULT. AND
THEN A LOT OF INTEREST IN
REDUCING USE. BUT THE BARRIERS
THAT THEY FACED IN ORDER TO
REDUCE THEIR USE WERE TREMENDOU
AS WELL. SO THAT SURVEY GAVE US
A LOT OF INSIGHT AS TO WHERE WE
GO FROM HERE.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING
US.
>> REDUCTION ALLIANCE HAS BEEN
DOING HARM REDUCTION WORK IN
SEATTLE AND KING COUNTY FOR
ALMOST 16 YEARS NOW. WE HAVE
ALWAYS BEEN FOCUSED ON HELPING
PEOPLE LIVE THEIR BEST LIVES
POSSIBLE. HOWEVER MUCH THEY
ENVISION AND DEFINE THAT. THIS
IS A SET OF PRACTICAL
STRATEGIES, WHICH, OF COURSE, I
AIMED AT REDUCING HARM. TO YOU
QUESTION, IT DOES INCORPORATE
STRATEGIES THAT INCLUDE SAFE
USE, MANAGED USE, BASICALLY
MEETING FOLKS WHEREVER THEY ARE
AT. AND DOING IT IN A WAY THAT
IS NONJUDGMENTAL. WHEN WE THINK
OF QUALITY LIFE AND INDIVIDUAL
LIFE AND QUALITY OF WELL BEING.
THAT COULD INCLUDE TREATMENT.
BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY INCLUDE
CESSATION. IT'S LOOKING AT THAT
QUALITY OF LIFE. SO WE PROVIDE
HARM REDUCTION SUPPLIES AND
EDUCATION. NALOXONE TRAINING. W
DO THAT THROUGH, WE HAVE A
COUPLE OF FIXED SITES HERE IN
SEATTLE. AND THEN WE HAVE MOBIL
OUTREACH AS WELL AS MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED
MENTION OVERDOSE HAS HIT VERY
HARD. WE DID RECENTLY HIRE AN
OVERDOSE PREVENTION SPECIALIST
WHOSE PRIMARY IS GO OUT TO
ENCAMPMENTS OTHERS MAY NOT BE
ABLE TO REACH US. WE HAVE A LOT
OF COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS THAT
ENABLE US TO PROVIDE DIRECT
ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE SERVICES.
WE HAVE AN IN-HOUSE PROGRAM FOR
THOSE WHO WANT TO CHANGE THEIR
RELATIONSHIP WITH OPIOIDS. A
REALLY EXCITING PIECE OF
HEALTHCARE SERVICES THAT WE'VE
GOTTEN TO EXPAND WITH THIS GRAN
IS OUR HARM REDUCE.
>> THANK YOU. BEFORE MOVING ON
TO THE SECOND QUESTION I JUST
WANT TO SORT OF DAYLIGHT THE
REASON WHY I'VE ASKED THIS
QUESTION. ABOUT HARM REDUCTION
BEING PART OF THE TREATMENT
CONTINUUM. I'VE HEARD IT SAID
VERY STRONGLY, THAT
PRACTITIONERS CONSIDER HARM
REDUCTION TO BE PART -- TO BE A
TYPE OF TREATMENT. AT A RECENT
CONFERENCE THAT MANY OF US
ATTENDED. I SAW A SLIDE THAT
IDENTIFIED THAT DCHS DEFINES
HARM REDUCTION IN A CATEGORY
THAT IS SEPARATE FROM TREATMENT
AND I'M JUST WONDERING, BRAD, I
YOU COULD SPEAK TO THE
IMPLICATIONS OF TREATING HARM
REDUCTION SEPARATELY, FROM
TREATMENT, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT
I'VE HEARD PRACTITIONERS SAY,
THAT HARM REDUCTION IS PART OF
THE TREATMENT CONTINUUM.
>> ING THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE FORMAL
REDUCTION OF SO MANY FOLKS WHO
WANT TO HAVE A SAY IN THAT. WE
HAVE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND
COUNSELORS AND THERAPISTS AND
ALL OF THAT STUFF. BUT WHAT'S
TRUE IS THAT THIS IS SERVICES
FOR THOSE WHO ARE MOST
MARGINALIZED. WHEN WE THINK
ABOUT WHAT IS THE SERVICES
PEOPLE NEED. THOSE ARE TREATMEN
SERVICES. IT'S REALLY, AS MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, ABOUT
MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT
WHETHER IT IS GOING INTO
RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT. OR DETOX
OR ENGAGING IN RECOVERY. OR
WHETHER IT IS WALKING THE HARM
REDUCTION AGENCY T. PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO RECEIVE TREATMENT FOR
WHAT THEY ARE WORKING ON IN A
WAY IN WHICH THEY'RE WILLING TO
AND THAT MIGHT BE AS LITTLE AS
FENTANYL TEST STRIP. BECAUSE TO
PROTECT THEIR LIFE FROM WHAT
THEY'RE DOING AND EMPOWER THEM
TO WHAT THEY KNOW. AND IT MIGHT
BE SOMETHING AS AS LOW-BARRIER
NORPE NEPHERINE. ONE OF THE
THINGS I WILL SAY AS MICHELLE
SAID, IS THAT THE FORM AL
MEDICAID SYSTEM PAYS FOR THIS
THAT COULD BE ACTABLE TO PEOPLE
AND THAT'S WHY THIS MONEY IS SO
VERY IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THAT
ASPECT OF THE TREATMENT
SERVICES. BUT ALSO TO PROTECT
MORE THAN FINANCE. IT'S TO
PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS
AND PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST
VULNERABLE, AS MY COLLEAGUES
HAVE SAID. THEY WORK WITH PEOPL
WHO ARE EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERE
LIVING. THEY WORK WITH PEOPLE
WHO ARE ALTHOUGH ALTHOUGH OFTEN
HAVE OTHER TYPES OF PHYSICAL
COMORBIDITIES AND MENTAL HEALTH
CONDITIONS. THEY WORK WITH
PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT TO
RECEIVE THE TREATMENT AND
SERVICES THEY NEED. MAYBE ONE
DAY THEY'LL STOP USING DRUGS AN
MAYBE ONE DAY THEY WON'T. BUT
WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS THA
WE DO GOOD BY THOSE PEOPLE. WE
KEEP THEM ALIVE AND WE MITIGATE
THE HARMS THAT ARE EXTREMELY
TOXIC DRUG SUPPLY RIGHT NOW IS
CAUSING.
>> THANK YOU. AND BEFORE I OPEN
IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM
COUNCILMEMBERS HERE WITH US
TODAY. I DO HAVE ANOTHER
QUESTION. THE SECOND QUESTION,
THINK YOU GUYS PRETTY MUCH
COVERED. BUT FEEL FREE TO ADD
IN. SECOND QUESTION IS, HOW DID
THE GRANT AFFECT YOUR HARM
REDUCTION PROGRAM? IF THERE'S
MORE YOU WANT TO SAY, BY ALL
MEANS. BUT ON THE LAST QUESTION
WE TALK OFTEN A LOT ABOUT HOW W
ARE DATA FOCUSED AND OUTCOMES
DRIVEN. AND REALLY WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE'RE USING BEST
PRACTICES. BUT I ALSO -- AND
THOSE ARE ALL IMPORTANT
PRINCIPLES TO FOLLOW. BUT THE
STORIES OF WORK THAT PEOPLE DO
IS ALSO VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
AND I'M WONDERING WHETHER OR NO
YOU CAN EACH SHARE A STORY OF
SOMEBODY WHO YOUR WORK WITH
THESE GRANTS HELPED.
>> I'M THINKING ABOUT A
PARTICIPANT WHO WAS DEALING WIT
A PARTICULARLY PAINFUL WOUND.
AND THE MONIES NAWE RECEIVED FO
THE COMMUNITY-BASED OVERDOSE
PREVENTION PROGRAM. WE WERE ABL
TO HIRE MEDICAL DIRECTOR. WE HA
NEVER HIRED WE HAD NEVER HAD A
PAID MEDICAL DIRECTOR BEFORE. W
ONLY USED VOLUNTEER MEDICAL
DIRECTORS. SO SHE WAS ABLE TO
PUT A LOT OF ENERGY AND FOCUS
INTO OUR WOUND CARE. PROVISION
PROGRAM. AND I'M THINKING ABOUT
A PARTICULAR PARTICIPANT WHO
WILL SORT OF DISAPPEAR FOR
MONTHS AT A TIME. HE HAPPENED T
COME BY. WE CLOSE OUR DOORS AT
5:30. AND HE HAPPENED TO COME B
AT LIKE 5:22 ONE DAY. AND OUR
NURSES WERE ABLE TO SIT WITH
HIM, GET HIM, YOU KNOW, HIS
BANDAGES CLEANED AND TAKEN CARE
OF. HE HAD TOLD THEM STORIES
WHILE THEY WERE WORKING WITH HI
OF HOW HE HAD BEEN TO NUMEROUS
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS AND JUST
TREATED VERY POORLY AND WAS SOR
OF SHOWN THE DOOR. AS SOON AS H
WALKED IN. BECAUSE OF THE STIGM
ASSOCIATED WITH FOLKS WHO DEAL
WITH WOUNDS WHO ARE UNHOUSED AN
USING DRUGS. SO THAT WAS A
PARTICULARLY HEARTWORMING MOMEN
TO HAVE HIM COME BACK IN. HE'S
SINCE COME BACK IN SEVERAL TIME
FOR WOUND CARE AND ALWAYS GRABS
A NARCAN WHEN HE COMES IN. AND
WILL WE'RE REALLY GLAD THAT HE'
PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND HE'S
AROUND.
>> I CAN OFFER AN EXAMPLE, OR
EXCUSE ME A STORY, ABOUT A
CLIENT WE ENGAGED BY WAY OF THE
FUNDING FROM THIS PROGRAM. IN
NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, 2022, OU
OUTREACH TEAM WAS OUT UNDER THE
AURORA AREA. IN THE DEXTER
HIGHLAND AREA. AND SOMEONE WHO
WE HAD ENGAGED BEFORE, AND HAD
BUILT SOME TRUST WITH, YOU KNOW
TAPPED AN OUTREACH WORKER ON TH
SHOULDER AND SAID, CAN YOU COME
IN WITH ME AND CHECK IN ON THIS
PERSON WHO SEEMS PARTICULARLY
VULNERABLE AND COULD USE YOUR
SUPPORT? IT HAPPENED TO BE A
VERY PREGNANT WOMAN WHO WAS
SLEEPING OUTSIDE UNDER THE
BRIDGE WITH HER PARTNER, WHO WA
HEAVY IN HER FENTANYL USE AND
VERY FEARFUL OF LOSING HER BABY
AND WILL WE WERE ABLE TO TAP TH
MEDICAL PROVIDER WITH OUR DRUG
USER HEALTH TEAM, WHO CAME OUT
THERE, TALKED ABOUT OPTIONS FOR
MEDICATIONS FOR OPIOID USE
DISORDER. AS IT PERTAINS TO
MEDICATIONS. HAD A COUPLE OF
CONVERSATIONS BEFORE THAT PERSO
WAS WILLING TO GET IN THE CAR
AND GO WITH THAT PERSON WITH TH
MEDICAL PROVIDER TO ENGAGE WITH
METHADONE TREATMENT. WE WERE
ABLE TO CONNECT THAT PERSON WIT
SWEDISH, WHERE SHE WAS ABLE TO
HAVE THE BABY VERY QUICKLY
THEREAFTER. WHILE THE BABY
REMAINED IN THE NICU, WE WERE
PROVIDING SOME SUPPORT TO THE
MOTHER TO DOSE, BECAUSE SIMPLY
GETTING TO A CLINIC EVERY DAY
CAN BE DIFFICULT. AND WE KNOW
THAT. THE WAY THAT METHADONE IS
REGULATED. AND WE WERE THEN ABL
TO ENGAGE HER PARTNER AS WELL,
IN ACCESSING METHADONE. NOW,
IT'S NOT A LINEAR PATH. THERE'S
BEEN SOME SORT OF KIND OF
FALLING OFF AND NEEDING TO
REENGAGE. BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO DO THAT AND CONTINUE TO
REENGAGE, CONTINUE TO BUILD AND
WORK ON THAT TRUST AND THE BABY
IS ABLE TO RETAIN -- REMAIN IN
THE CARE OF THE PARENTS AND CPS
IS INVOLVED. BUT WE ARE ABLE TO
HELP REDUCE THE HARMS OF THAT
AND TRY AND HELP THAT FAMILY
REMAIN INTACT AND ENGAGED IN
TREATMENT.
>> I'M THINKING OF A PARTICIPAN
WHO -- WE STARTED ENGAGING WITH
ON OUTREACH. AND SLOWLY BUILT A
RELATIONSHIP WITH, WHO THEN
STARTED COMING TO ONE OF OUR FI
SITES IN SEATTLE. MOSTLY JUST
FOR SUPPLIES, A SNACK, CHECK-IN
AND THEN SLOWLY, OVER TIME, AS
WE WERE BUILDING TRUST WITH HIM
STARTED SHARING WITH US SOME OF
HIS OTHER STRUGGLES, ESPECIALLY
AROUND SOME PRETTY SERIOUS
CO-OCCURRING HEALTH ISSUES. AND
SO OUR STAFF WAS ABLE TO START
REFERRING HIM TO DIFFERENT
SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHAT SHE HAD
TRIED TO ENGAGE WITH. HAD A LOT
OF BARRIERS DOING SO. AND SO WE
WERE ABLE TO HELP HIM NAVIGATE
GETTING ACCESS TO TREATMENT AND
TO HEALTHCARE. STARTED WORKING
WITH HIM, WITH A CASE MANAGER.
ON HOUSING RESOURCES . IT WAS A
LONG, COMPLICATED ROAD. GOT INT
TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. MAYBE FIV
MONTHS AGO. WHICH HAS REALLY
HELPED HIM REMAIN ON TRACK WITH
TREATMENT. AND WITH TAKING CARE
OF HIS HEALTH ISSUES. AND HE
STILL COMES BY TO CHECK IN
REALLY REGULARLY. SOMETHING I
REALLY APPRECIATE IS HE NOW
PICKS UP SUPPLIES AND DOES WHAT
WE CALL SECONDARY EXCHANGE
SOMETIMES, WHICH IS BASICALLY
WITH PEERS WHO ENCOUNTERS. AND
SO IT'S BEEN REALLY ENCOURAGING
BOTH TO SEE HIS OWN TRAJECTORY,
AND THEN THE WAY THAT HE IS ALS
GOING BACK OUT INTO HIS OWN
COMMUNITY WITH RESOURCES.
>> IF I COULD, REAL QUICK. YOU
KNOW, THE THREAD THAT I JUST
HEARD WAS "TRUST," RIGHT? AND
THAT BY BEING ABLE TO BE IN THE
COMMUNITY TO DO THIS WORK WITH
COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WHO ARE OFTE
LACKING TRUST, EXPERIENCING
STIGMA. BUT BY BRINGING
SERVICES, TWO PEOPLE, LOWERING
BARRIERS. IT PROVIDES THAT
ON-RAMP, YOU KNOW, INTO A SYSTE
OF CARE FOR PEOPLE. AND THAT
CANNOT BE QUANTIFIED. THESE
THREE STORIES WE JUST HEARD
TODAY. ONE OTHER STORY I'LL JUS
SHARE WITH YOU, TOO. IS SOME OF
THESE FUNDS I'LL BE ABLE TO FUN
PART OF A HARM REDUCTION
COORDINATOR. AND THAT PERSON
WENT OUT AND DID A TRAINING AT
SEATTLE, INDIAN HEALTH BOARD.
NOT LONG AGO. ABOUT A MONTH AGO
FOR 200 PEOPLE AT THEIR
ALL-STAFF MEETING. AND IT WAS
ONLY TWO DAYS LATER SOMEBODY
CAME BACK AND SAID, BECAUSE OF
THE TRAINING I SAW. BECAUSE OF
THE RESOURCES I WAS ABLE TO
REVERSE AN OVERDOSE. SO I MEAN,
THAT'S IMMEDIATE LIKE WORK TO
ACTION TO SAVE LIVES. SO
TOGETHER, WITH THE TRUST THAT I
BEING BUILT, IT'S MAGNIFICENT
ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE
COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBERS
HAVE QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? YES?
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON?
>> SURE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I HAVE
BEEN HEARING PARTS OF THIS
MESSAGE IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH
BOARD MEETINGS. AND I AM
INTERESTED IN THE PIE CHART ON
THE LOWER RIGHT SIDE OF PAGE 9,
WHERE IT SAYS THAT 65% OF THE
PEOPLE SURVEYED EXPRESS A DESIR
THEIR USE AND OF THAT, THE
BIGGEST REQUESTING SAYS VERY.
I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS A
SEGMENT THAT SAYS THAT YOU
PULLED THAT SAYS THEY'RE
INTERESTED IN STOPPING THEIR
USE. AND I ASK THE QUESTION,
BECAUSE I AGREE NAI BELIEVE HAR
REDUCTION IS PART OF THE
CONTINUUM OF SERVICES AND CARE.
AND ALSO, WHAT PUBLIC HEALTH IS
DOING TO MOVE BEYOND THE HARM
REDUCTION PHASE AND WILL SO HO
MUCH MONEY, IF ANY, DO YOU SPEN
ON AGENCIES OR FOR TREATMENT
THAT IS GEARED TOWARD
ABSTINENCE? AND AS A COROLLARY
OF THAT, I GUESS THE MORE BASIC
QUESTION IS, DOES PUBLIC HEALTH
AGREE THAT IT HAS A
RESPONSIBILITY TO CHANGE
BEHAVIOR BEYOND MEETING PEOPLE
WHERE THEY'RE AT? IN ORDER TO
HELP THEM ADDRESS THEIR
ADDICTION LONG-TERM? I MEAN, DO
YOU -- DO YOU FEEL AS THOUGH
IT'S IMPORTANT TO HELP PEOPLE
EITHER -- WELL, CHANGE THEIR US
PATTERNS IN WAYS THAT THEY CAN
GO INTO ABSTINENCE-BASED
RECOVERY.
>> I'LL TAKE PART OF THAT. AND
THEN MICHELLE. THIS IS YOUR
SLIDE. I'LL KICK THE REST OF IT
TO YOU. SO REALLY GREAT
QUESTION. THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER. AND A LITTLE BIT
TRICKY QUESTION, TO BE HONEST
WITH YOU. BECAUSE I THINK, YOU
KNOW. IN THE 25 YEARS THAT I
HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK, AND
HAVE MY MASTERS DEGREE IN
COUNSELING AND ADDICTION
STUDIES. WE WANT TO -- THERE'S
SOMETHING -- THERE'S A
TRANSTHEORETICAL MODEL OF
CHANGE. IT'S CALLED THE STAGES
OF CHANGE MODEL. AND IT'S
PRECONTEMPLATION ACTION
MAINTENANCE. SO WE WANT TO BE
ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE, WHEREVER
THEY'RE AT, FURTHER THE GOALS
THAT THEY HAVE. SO IF SOMEBODY
COMES IN AND SAYS, WE -- I WANT
-- I WANT TO GAIN ABSTINENCE IN
MY LIFE. WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO
HELP THAT PERSON FIND THAT
TRAJECTORY TO GET TO ABSTINENCE
WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT PERSON
ALONG THEIR PATH TO RECOVERY.
WHATEVER THAT PATH IS. IN
RESPECT TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT
FUNDING. SO IN PUBLIC HEALTH, W
DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT BODIES OF
WORK, FOR OVERDOSE PREVENTION.
AND THEN WE PARTNER VERY CLOSEL
WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND
HUMAN SERVICES, WHO FACILITATE
THE MEDICAID-FUNDED TREATMENT
SYSTEM. THEY FACILITATE THE
60-SOME-ODD MILLION DOLLARS A
YEAR, OF MIDMONEY. THEY ALSO
HAVE MANY OTHER FUNDINGS LIKE
SUBSTANCE ABUSE. BLOCK RAMP
FUNDING, THAT FUND THAT
TREATMENT SYSTEM. AND THAT
TREATMENT SYSTEM IS REALLY
GEARED TOWARDS AN
ABSTINENCE-BASED SYSTEM. I DON'
HAVE EXACT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT
GOES INTO THAT SYSTEM. BUT IT I
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
A YEAR, THAT FUNDS THAT WHOLE
TREATMENT SYSTEM TO ENSURE THE
TREATMENT IS AVAILABLE FOR
PEOPLE WHO WANT IT. IF SOMEBODY
COMES IN TO AN AGENCY AND SAYS,
HEY, I'M INTERESTED IN GETTING
ON BUPENEPHERINE, WE WANT TO BE
SURE THAT HAPPENS. AND THAT IS
PART OF THE WORK TODAY. IF
SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS, YOU
KNOW WHAT? I JUST DON'T WANT TO
DIE. WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE
TO RESPECT THAT AND PROVIDE
WHATEVER SERVICES THAT IS
NECESSARY. OR I'M REALLY WORRY
ABOUT THIS WOUND AND BE ABSCESS
FOLKS WILL HAVE CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT WHAT RESOURCES ARE
AVAILABLE, WHAT SERVICES ARE
AVAILABLE. BUT WE WANT TO NEAT
THAT PERSON WHERE THEY'RE AT. S
WHEN THEY ARE READY TO MAKE THE
CHANGE, THAT THEY HAVE TRUST AN
RELATIONSHIP FROM WHAT WE'VE
HEARD WITH OUR COMMUNITY
PARTNERS.
>> MICHELLE, DO YOU WANT TO TAL
ON THAT?
>> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION
TO THAT STATEMENT. WHEN YOU SAY
YOU WANT TO HELP PEOPLE THAT
WANT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. DO YO
DO ANY ENCOURAGING TO SUGGEST
THAT MAYBE THAT CHANGE IS
POSITIVE, THAT GETTING BEYOND
JUST WANTING NOT TO DIE IS
IMPORTANT.
>> OH, YEAH. ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY. I'M, YOU KNOW,
VALUING THE HUMAN LIFE IS AT TH
FABRIC OF WHERE WE'RE AT. AND S
-- AND IS AT THE FABRIC OF THE
WORK WE DO. SO MOVING PEOPLE
ALONG. I'M SORRY. I STARTED
TALKING ABOUT THE STAGES OF
CHANGE MODEL. WHERE THEY DON'T
SEE A CHANGE IS NECESSARY IF
SOMETHING IS HAPPENING IN THEIR
LIFE, THAT IS HAVING A NEGATIVE
OUTCOME. TO MOVING THEM TO WHAT
ARE THOSE POSITIVE CHANGES. AND
MOVING THEM FROM CONTEMPLATING
THAT TO TAKING THE STEPS THAT
NEED TO BE TAKEN. SO WE WANT TO
MOVE PEOPLE FROM WHEREVER
THEY'RE AT, ALONG INTO POSITIVE
CHANGE NEGLIGENCE THEIR LIVES.
SO IT IS ABSOLUTELY PART OF THE
CONTINUUM. IT'S ABSOLUTELY WHER
WE'RE AT. AND THAT'S WHY, YOU
KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN REALLY
LOOKING AT WHAT MORE SERVICES
CAN WE BRING IN FOR OUR HARM
REDUCTION AGENCIES. LIKE DRUG
TRACKING AND DRUG TESTING, TO
BRING PEOPLE IN, SO THAT THEY'R
NOT ISOLATED AND BY THEMSELVES.
WHEN WE BRING THEM IN, WE CAN
HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. WE CA
DO HARM REDUCTION COUNSELING.
OTHER TYPES OF TREATMENT THAT
ARE AVAILABLE. OTHER THINGS LIK
BUPENEPHERINE.
>> I THINK MICHELLE HAD
SOMETHING TO ADD?
>> SURE. I'LL JUST ADD, WE
DESIGNED THIS WITH OUR COLLEAGU
AND IT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION
TO BOTH REDICING AND STOPPING T
ENGAGE PARTICIPANTS IN THE
CONVERSATION, TO NOT SHAME AWAY
FROM FOLKS WHO MIGHT WANT TO
REDUCE OVER STOP. SO WE DIDN'T
SPECIFY BETWEEN THOSE TWO WORDS
I THINK THE QUESTION TO ASK,
WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS YOU FACE
IN REDUCING OR STOPPING OPIOID
USE? THE PROCESS OF GETTING ON
THE RIGHT DOSE CAN BE VERY LONG
CAN BE UNCOMFORTABLE. WE'RE TOO
AFRAID TO FAIL. DON'T WANT TO B
LECTURED OR JUDGED ABOUT I MOO
DRUG USE. SO I THINK THE STIGMA
AND THE ACCESS TO CARE ARE TWO
ELEMENTS WE DEFINITELY NEED TO
ADDRESS, TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNIT
BETTER. AGAIN, WITH THE
POPULATION WE'RE WORKING WITH I
BRAD'S DECISION, IT'S THE
PRECONTEMPLATION STAGE OF
CHANGE. IT'S FOLKS WHO DON'T
BELIEVE THEIR DRUG USE IS A
PROBLEM. WE STILL WANT -- WE
WANT TO SPECIFICALLY TARGET AND
FOCUS OUR INTERVENTIONS ON THAT
GROUP OF FOLKS. AND WE DO THAT,
KNOWING THAT ABSTINENCE IS A
PART OF THAT CONTINUUM. KNOWING
THAT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE
POSSIBLE THAT THEY COULD REACH
THAT BEFORE THEY DIE. AND IF
THEY DON'T, WE WANT TO BE
ALONGSIDE THEM AND SUPPORTING
THEM AND HELPING THEM TO REDUCE
THOSE HARMS TO PROLONG THEIR
LIFE. AND HELP THEM IMPROVE THA
QUALITY OF LIFE. WE DO THAT BY
UTILIZING MOTIVATIONAL
INTERVIEWING, WHICH IS ONE OF
THE MOST TRIED AND TRUE
TREATMENT MODALITIES FOR
ENGAGING SOMEONE AROUND CHANGE
AND CONTEMPLATION FOR CHANGE.
THAT'S ABOUT ALIGNING A PERSON'
VALUES WITH BEHAVIORS. SO
BRINGING THEIR VALUES IN LINE
WITH THEIR BEHAVIORS. RIGHT NOW
A LOT OF FOLKS LIVING OUTSIDE,
JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE EVERY
DAY, AREN'T ACTUALLY ABLE TO AC
WITH BEHAVIORS THAT ARE IN LINE
WITH THEIR BEHAVIORS. THEY HAVE
TO DO SOMETHING IN ORDER TO FEE
THEMSELVES, KEEP THEMSELVES SAF
AT NIGHT. SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO
IS PROVIDE THOSE BASIC NEEDS.
INITIALLY, HOUSING IS A BIG,
CRITICAL NEED. AND TYPICALLY,
ONCE A PERSON HAS THOSE IN
ORDER, THEY'RE THEN PRIMED AND
READY TO CONSIDER WHETHER
THEY'RE READY TO MAKE CHANGE FO
SUBSTANCE USE.
>> CAN I ADD ONE THING. I THINK
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT WHAT TREATMENT LOOKS
LIKE, TO UNDERSTAND WHY
MEDICATIONS ARE SO IMPORTANT,
ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO --
PEOPLE WHO HAVE OPIATE USE
DISORDER, WHO USE VERY POWERFUL
OPIOIDS LIKE FENTANYL. AS YOU
CAN SEE, SAT EACH OF THESE
HARM-REDUCTION AGENCIES, THEY
OFFER SOME TYPE OF MEDICATIONS
FOR OPIATE USE STKPW-RD. AND TH
REASON FOR THAT IS
ABSTINENCE-BASED TREATMENT CAN,
WITHOUT MEDICATIONS, CAN HAVE
REALLY ADVERSE AFFECTS AND
INCREASE PEOPLE'S RISKS FOR
OVERDOSE. SO WE -- SO BOTH
MEDICATIONS, METHADONE HAVE BEE
SHOWN TO REDUCE BY 50%. IF
PEOPLE WANT ABSTINENCE, WE WILL
REPORT THAT. [ CAPTIONERS
TRANSITIONING ]
>> I GET IT. THAT DOES NOT HELP
PEOPLE THAT ARE ON UNIQUE
STIMULANTS. YOU'VE HEARD ME SA
THIS BEFORE. IT PROVIDES
TREATMENT AND REDUCES THE
OVERDOSE FOR PEOPLE ON ONE
SPECIFIC DRUG. I'M TALKING ABOU
WANTING TO SEE MORE IN THE WAY
OF WHAT IS BEYOND THE
TREATMENT. IT SEEMS LIKE THIS
IS IN A POPULAR CONCEPTION OF
THE TERM. IT CAME TO THE FLOOR
DURING THE AIDS EPIDEMIC WHEN
PEOPLE WERE DYING AND
TRANSMITTING HIV THROUGH
NEEDLES. NEEDLES WERE NOT HAR
REDUCTION. -- THEN IT SEEMS
THE CONCEPT HAS GOTTEN WIDER.
FOR ONE EXAMPLE, I KNOW THAT
WHEN PIPES ARE BEING DISTRIBUTE
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS
THE HARM THAT IS BEING REDUCED
BY THE DISTRIBUTION OF SUPPLIE
THAT SIMPLY HELP PEOPLE TO USE
DRUGS? HOW DO YOU MEASURE THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT PUBLIC
INVESTMENT?
>> TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE IS
ANECDOTAL. THERE IS EVIDENCE
THAT SAYS IF WE CAN KEEP PEOPL
FROM USING NEEDLES IT STOPS TH
TRANSMISSION OF DISEASE. RIGHT?
WHEN PEOPLE SMOKE DRUGS, VERSU
PEOPLE INJECTING DRUGS, THERE I
LESS HARM CAUSED TO PEOPLE.
THAT IS ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE.
THE SECOND IS THAT , LET ME GO
BACK ROW QUICK TO THIS SLIDE.
WITH THE INCREASE IN FENTANYL
USE ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW I
THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT INJECTING
DRUGS LIKE THESE TWO. MOST OF
THE FENTANYL THAT IS COMING IS
NOW IN THE FORM OF PILLS OR IN
THE FORM OF POWDERS THAT PEOPLE
CAN SMOKE, INGEST, SNORT. THEY
DON'T NEED A NEEDLE TO USE. SO
WHAT HAPPENS IS, IF WE CANNOT
BRING THEM IN FOR SERVICES THEN
THEY ARE MUCH MORE VULNERABLE
TO OVERDOSE . ALL OF THE
NEGATIVE IMPACTS. ONE OF THE
PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT IS
CLEARLY EMERGING IS THAT BY
HANDING OUT SMOKING SUPPLIES FO
PEOPLE IT BRINGS THEM IN FOR
SERVICE. IT BRINGS THEM IN TO
GET ACCESS . IT GIVES THEM
ACCESS TO A CASE MANAGER. THEY
CAN IDENTIFY IF THERE IS
FENTANYL IN THEIR DRUGS. ALL OF
THAT KIND OF STUFF. PASSING ON
SMOKING SUPPLIES HAS PROVEN TO
BE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR
ENGAGING PEOPLE IN OTHER TYPES
OF SERVICES.
>> SO YOU WOULD TRACK THE NUMBE
OF PEOPLE THAT RECEIVE SMOKING
SUPPLIES AND GOING TO TREATMENT
SO THAT WOULD BE A MEASURE OF
SUCCESS FOR THAT INVESTMENT? DO
YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS?
>> THERE HAVE BEEN INFO
BRIEFINGS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN
SMOKING SUPPLIES . OR RECEIVED
ACCESS TO OTHER TYPES .
>> THAT IS ANTI-OVERDOSE.
>> I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION IN
FRONT OF ME. LET ME STOP. MY
FRIENDS ARE CLOSER TO THE WORK
AND I AM. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU
WANT TO ADD?
>> I KNOW IT CAN BE
CONTROVERSIAL. ONE OF THE KEYS
THAT I SEE IS WE WANT TO
FACILITATE THE AUTONOMY OF
PEOPLE THAT USE DRUGS. THERE
ARE FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT TO
STOP USING DRUGS. THERE ARE
FOLKS FOR WHOM ABSTINENCE IS
NOT HOW THEY MEASURE SUCCESS IN
LIFE. THEY COME IN TO GET
SMOKING SUPPLIES. YOU DON'T HAV
TO INJECT. THE PEOPLE AT HARM
REDUCTION INVENTED A PIPES THA
PEOPLE CAN SMOKE AND NOT INJECT
IT IS PROVEN TO BE A SAFER
METHOD OF USING DRUGS.
ABSTINENCE IS GREAT IF THAT'S
SOMETHING YOU HAVE PLANNED FOR
YOU. BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE
JUST GOING TO USE DRUGS AND IT'
NOT GOING TO LEAD TO ABSTINENCE
OUR MISSION, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO DO REALLY SUCCESSFULLY
WITH THIS PROGRAM, IS TO SHOW
THAT PEOPLE CAN USE DRUG SAFELY
WE CAN HELP FOLKS GET ACCESS T
RESOURCES IF THAT IS SOMETHING
THEY ARE INTERESTED IN.
ULTIMATELY, BODILY AUTONOMY IS
KEY.
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY , WE
WERE JOINED SO WE COULD HEAR
DIRECTLY FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE O
THE FRONT LINES . DOING THIS
WORK, SAVING LIVES, AND DOING I
ON A SHOESTRING. I DO AGREE,
GIVEN THE CITY HAS PROVIDED
FUNDING FOR THE ZACH CAVITIES,
THE CONVERSATION AROUND METRIC
IS IMPORTANT. AND I AGREE THAT
WE SHOULD CONTINUE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. I REALLY WANTED
TO TAKE TODAY TO CENTER
OURSELVES IN THE UNDERSTANDING
OF WHAT HARM REDUCTION IS.
MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE AND
GORMAN WHO IS GOING TO GIVE US
AN UP DATE ON THE STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT THAT YOU
SPONSORED , AND THE STATUS OF
THAT. WE RECEIVED AN INITIAL
REPORT FROM THE HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT. YOU MIGHT JOINING U
AND SEGUE INTO THE LOOKING FOR
DISCUSSION? THANK YOU. AND
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR JOINING US.
I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE
YOUR TIME. PLEASE INTRODUCE
YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD AS WELL
>> IS THERE SOMETHING YOU CAN D
ABOUT THAT?
>> I THOUGHT THE SOUND WAS OFF.
>> RIGHT. LET'S TRY IT THIS WAY
>> THAT WORKS. PERFECT.
>> ANN GORMAN, COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF. I'M HERE WITH A BRIEF
SUMMARY. EXCUSE ME JUST A
MOMENT. A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE
RESPONSE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED
FROM THE EXECUTIVE IN RESPONSE
TO A STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE
INTENT, WHICH AS YOU MENTIONED,
CHAIR HERBOLD AND COUNCILMEMBE
NELSON SPONSORS DURING THE
BUDGET PROCESS LAST FALL. THE
COUNCIL ASKED THE EXECUTIVE TO
DEVELOP AN RFQ PROCESS THAT
WOULD'VE FUN FOR ADDICTION
TREATMENT. THE NUMBER OF THE
SLIDE IS HERE. JUST AS CONTEXT
IN 2022 THE STATE SETTLED FOR
$518 MILLION WITH A GROUP OF
THREE OPIATES DISTRIBUTORS AND
MANUFACTURERS. AND THE CITY OF
SEATTLE'S SHARE OF THAT FUNDING
IS APPROXIMATELY $14.1 MILLION.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ASKED THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND HUMAN SERVIC
DEPARTMENT TO WORK TOGETHER ON
A PROCESS TO DEVELOP AN RFQ TO
AWARD THOSE FUN FOR ADDICTION
TREATMENT. WE HAVE RECEIVED A
REPORT FROM THE EXECUTIVE . I A
HERE TO SHARE WHAT'S GOING ON
ACROSS THE STREET. THE EXECUTIV
HAS ENGAGED WITH EXPERT
ADVISORS. THAT GROUP IS SEEKIN
COMMUNITY INPUT ON ADDICTION
TREATMENT PRIORITIES FOR THIS
FUNDING. THE COMMUNITY GROUP
INCLUDES FRONTLINE TREATMENT
PROVIDERS, TRIBAL GROUPS, AND
THOSE WHO WORK WITH NATIVE
COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES OF
THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED
BY ADDICTION IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES. THE RESEARCH
EFFORT IS EXPECTED TO CONCLUDE
LATER THIS MONTH. IT WILL SHAR
WHAT LEARNS WITH THE CITY,
COUNTY, AND SOUND CITIES. AS A
RESULT OF THAT WORK THE CITY
WILL DECIDE ON A PATH FORWARD.
THE CITY MAY DECIDE TO POOL IT
OWN SETTLEMENT PROCEEDS WITH
THOSE OF KING COUNTY , DEPENDIN
ON WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE
PROCESS ARE. THE COUNTY'S SHAR
OF THE $518 MILLION, THAT I
MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO, IS $28
MILLION. BOTH OF THESE
SETTLEMENT ALLOCATIONS ARE OVER
18 HERE. DEPENDING ON WHAT THE
DECISION IS , AS A RESULT OF TH
OUTREACH PROCESS AND WHETHER
THE CITY DECIDE TO PULL
TOGETHER THE FUNDS, THE CITY
WILL DEVELOP SPENDING PLANS
THIS SUMMER AND FINALIZE THE
SPENDING PLANS IN THE FALL OF
2023. AND THE PROCESS COULD BE
RFQ, AS WAS SPECIFIED IN THE
SLIDE. WE WILL KNOW MORE AS
THIS DECISION IS SOLIDIFIED.
JUST ONE MORE NOTE. IN APRIL O
THIS YEAR CITY ATTORNEY DAVISO
SIGNED AN AGREEMENT THAT IS
EXPECTED TO NET THE CITY IN
APPROXIMATE $18.1 MILLION IN
OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS. IT'S
POSSIBLE THAT SOME OR ALL OF
THAT FUNDING COULD BE COMBINED
WITH THE FUNDING THAT I HAVE
ALREADY REFERENCED. WE WILL
LEARN MORE FROM THE EXECUTIVE A
THESE PLANTS SOLIDIFY AND WE
WILL KEEP THE COUNSEL INFORMED.
>> NOT NOW, BUT COULD YOU FOLLO
UP AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATIO
ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
PROCESS ?
>> I WILL GETS MORE INFORMATION
ON THAT. THE RESULTS WILL BE
AVAILABLE SOON. WE WILL BE ABLE
TO SHARE THOSE.
>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COUNCIL
MEMBER NELSON?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
PRESENTING THIS . THE SLIDE THA
YOU WERE RESPONDING TO WAS PLAN
B OF AN ORIGINAL ATTEMPT LAST
BUDGET SEASON, WHICH WAS TO
ESTABLISH A PILOT PROGRAM THAT
WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO DIRECTL
CONTRACT WITH TREATMENT
FACILITIES, PRIVATE OR PUBLIC.
IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE WHO ARE
AT THE PHASE OF REALLY WANTING
TO GO INTO REHAB , GET INTO
REHAB, ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON'T
HAVE MEDICATION . I WOULD ARGUE
, JUST BECAUSE IT'S NEW DOESN'T
MEAN WE SHOULDN'T TRY IT. WHAT
WE WERE SEEING WASN'T REALLY
WORKING. BUT IN ANY CASE, WE
HAVE A MEETING COVERED WHEN W
ARE LOOKING AT TREATMENT THAT
IS PROVIDED RIGHT NOW. I HAVE
ADVOCATED THAT THE PRIVATE
PROVIDER COMMUNITY BE ON THIS
WORK GROUP SO THAT THEY CAN
HELP JURISDICTIONS UNDERSTAND
BETTER HOW TO NAVIGATE, HOW TO
GET PEOPLE INTO THOSE TREATMEN
CENTERS WHICH HAVE VERY LIMITE
SPACE FOR MEDICAID PATIENTS BU
HAVE MORE AVAILABILITY FOR
PEOPLE WHO HAVE INSURANCE OR CA
PAY OUT-OF-POCKET. I'M REALLY
HOPING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO
EXPLORE THAT AVENUE OF GETTING
MORE PEOPLE A BROADER RANGE OF
TREATMENT SERVICES FASTER.
>> I CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP
ABOUT THAT. UNDERSTAND WHETHER
OR NOT A REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT
GROUP HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE
OUTREACH PROCESS SO FAR.
>> I HAVE HEARD THAT IT IS
DESIRED THAT SOMEBODY BE ON THA
WORK GROUP. I'M EXPLAINING WHY
THAT IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE UPDATE ON THE
SLIDE. THE TYPE OF TREATMENT
IS IN FACT AN APPROVED USE OF
SETTLEMENT DOLLARS. IT IS NOT
CORE STRATEGY BUT IT IS AN
APPROVED USE. I LOOK FORWARD TO
FINDING OUT MORE FROM THE
RECOMMENDATIONS ONCE WE HAVE
RECEIVED THEM. AND WITH THAT ,
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S
PATIENCE. THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE WITH US TODAY AND SHARING
YOUR EXPERIENCES AND CRITICAL
WORK , ALONG WITH YOUR EXPERTIS
AND PASSION. PLEASE READ AND
AGENDA ITEM 3.
>> AGENDA ITEM 3. ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION FOR PROPOSED
COUNSEL 120580 REGARDING
DEACTIVATION RIGHTS.
>> SO TODAY JASMINE MARWAHA AN
KARINA BULL FROM COUNCIL CENTRA
STAFF ARE JOINING US FOR A
WALK-THROUGH FOR THE BILL THAT
WILL BE INTRODUCED LATER ON
TODAY . THEY WILL TOUCH ON ISSU
IDENTIFICATION ON SOME ISSUES
THAT THEY HAVE HEARD PUBLIC AN
COUNCILMEMBER FEEDBACK ON. WE
WERE GOING TO BRING THE BILL
BACK TO COMMITTEE AT THE FIRST
COMMITTEE MEETING IN JUNE.
BASED ON REQUESTS FROM THE
EXECUTIVE AND OUR DESIRE TO WOR
THROUGH ADDITIONAL ISSUES WE AR
GOING TO BRING BACK THE BILL FO
AMENDMENTS ON JUNE 27th. SINCE
THE BILL WAS LAST PRESENTED TO
THE COMMITTEE IN DRAFT FORM WE
HAVE CONTINUED COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PLATFORMS,
WORKERS, AND ADVOCATES. WE HAVE
INCORPORATED SOME OF THAT
FEEDBACK BUT RECOGNIZE THAT WE
STILL HAVE WORK TO DO. AGAIN,
IN THE INTEREST OF SHOWING OUR
WORK AND CONTINUING TRANSPARENC
WE ARE DISCUSSING THE BILL AS I
IS ON THE CALENDAR BEFORE THE
COUNSEL TODAY. AGAIN, WITH THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WILL HAVE
CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
AMENDMENTS AND CHANGES. WE PASS
IT ON TO YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS
JASMINE MARWAHA.
>> AND I AM KARINA BULL, ALSO O
COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF.
>> AS MENTIONED, WE WILL
PRESENTING THE SOON TO BE USED
TO DRAFT OR ORDINANCE OF THE
DEACTIVATION'S RIGHTS. WE WILL
GO OVER A BRIEF SUMMARY USING
MANY SLIDES THAT WERE USED IN
THE LAST COMMUNITY MEETING.
WILL BE HIGHLIGHTING THE POLICY
CONSIDERATIONS THAT WERE
DISCUSSED DURING THAT MEMO IN
AN ATTEMPT TO ANSWER ANY FURTHE
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THEN WE
WILL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.
HERE IS A HIGH-LEVEL BACKGROUND
OF WHAT THIS BILL ATTEMPTS.
THE POLICY WOULD BE TO CREATE
MORE STABILITY AND JOB SECURITY
FOR WORKERS , CREATE A BALANCE
BETWEEN THE EFFICIENCIES AND
THE NEEDS OF SIENA WORKERS. THI
LEGISLATION WOULD REQUIRE
NETWORK COMPANIES TO --
UNREASONABLE POLICIES. --
NOTICE RECORDS AND HUMAN REVIEW
OF ALL THE ACTIVATIONS. MORE
SPECIFICALLY, UNDER THIS
LEGISLATION THEY MUST GIVE
NOTICE . THOSE REASONS MUST BE
REASONABLY RELATED TO THE
NETWORK COMPANIES SAFE
OPERATIONS. THERE IS ALSO A
LIST OF ON REASONABLE REASONS T
DEACTIVATE AN APP BASED WORKER
THIS IS PRESENTED IN THE LAST
COMMITTEE MEETING WITH ONE
CHANGE. THE LEGISLATION NOW
ONLY PROHIBITS DEACTIVATION
BASED ON AN AGGREGATE CUSTOMER
RATING IF IT IS THE SOLE BASIS
FOR THE DEACTIVATION. THE
LEGISLATION NOW ALLOWS FOR
CUSTOMER RATINGS TO BE USED AS
PART OF THE REASON FOR
DEACTIVATION , PERHAPS IN
CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER EVIDENCE
SUGGESTING PERFORMANCE. I WILL
BE DISCUSSING THEIR PROHIBITION
ON DEACTIVATING A WORKER BASED
ON A BACKGROUND CHECK FURTHER
ALONG IN THE PRESENTATION UNDER
THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS. AS
WE ALSO DISCUSSED IN THE LAST
COMMITTEE MEETING , HOW
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT IS
INTERPRETED SHOULD SHAPE ONES
-- ABOUT THIS PROHIBITION. WE
WILL DEFINITELY COME BACK TO IT
OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE
LEGISLATION INCLUDE AN
INVESTIGATION DEMONSTRATED BY
PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE THAT
THE APP BASED WORKER VIOLATED
THE COMPANY'S POLICY. THE
DEACTIVATION WAS ALSO HAVE A
CONSISTENT APPLICATION OF THE
RULE OR POLICY AND BE
PROPORTIONATE TO THE OFFENSE. I
CANNOT INTEND TO OR RESULT IN
DISCRIMINATION. A COMPANY WOUL
BE ABLE TO DEACTIVATE A WORKER
IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT COMPLETING
AN INVESTIGATION IF THERE IS AN
ALLEGATION OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT. THOUGH THE COMPANY
WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PROVE
THAT THE EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT
OCCURRED. THE COMPANY CAN ALSO
DEACTIVATE A WORKER BASED ON TH
RESULTS OF A BACKGROUND CHECK I
THERE IS EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT
RECOVERED THAT DIRECTLY RELATES
. IT REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM TH
PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED DRAFT.
LATER ON WE WILL DIG INTO THIS
DEFINITION WHEN WE DISCUSS
POLICY CONSIDERATIONS. AGAIN,
WE HAVE A LIST OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT EXAMPLES THAT ARE
UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS
DRAFT. FOR YOUR REFERENCE, THES
INCLUDE ASSAULT, SEXUAL
ASSAULT, UNLAWFUL HARASSMENT,
AND RECKLESS DRIVING. AGAIN, I
A WORKER IS EXPECTED OF THE
ENGAGING IN ANY OF THIS CONDUCT
THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY DEACTIVAT
THE WORKER. OR FOR BACKGROUND
CHECK REVEALED THIS TYPE OF
CONDUCT THE NETWORK COMPANY CA
DEACTIVATE THE WORKER
IMMEDIATELY. NEXT, UNDER THIS
LEGISLATION A WORKER WOULD BE
ENTITLED TO 14 DAYS NOTICE OF
DEACTIVATION , EXCEPT FOR IN
THE CASE OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT. EVEN IN THE CASE OF
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT THE APP
BASED WORKER WOULD RECEIVE A
NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION ON THE
DATE OF DEACTIVATION. THIS WOUL
BE REQUIRED TO INCLUDE ITEMS
LISTED ON THE SLIDE AND THE
RECORDS REQUIREMENT AND PROCESS
FOR CHALLENGING DEACTIVATION.
WORKERS WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO
CHALLENGE THEIR DEACTIVATION
THROUGH AN INTERNAL PROCEDURE
AND CAN DO SO AT ANY POINT , UP
TO 90 DAYS AFTER RECEIVING THE
NOTICE OF DEACTIVATION. THE
NETWORK COMPANY HAS 14 DAYS TO
RESPOND IN THE LEGISLATION TO
THE WORKER CHALLENGE. THE
WORKER CAN THEN FILE A COMPLAIN
OR PURSUE THEIR PRIVATE RIGHT
OF ACTION AFTER THAT INITIAL
RESPONSE. OR AFTER 14 DAYS,
WHICHEVER COMES EARLIER. ALLIE
NOTED EARLIER, THE NOTICE OF
DEACTIVATION WOULD BE REQUIRED
TO INCLUDE THE RECORD TO BE
RELIED UPON THE NETWORK COMPAN
TO SUBSTANTIATE THE
DEACTIVATION. THAT IS CERTIFIED
FROM AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IT IS
TRUE AND ACCURATE RECORD. I
WOULD NOTE THAT THE NETWORK
COMPANIES HAVE EXPRESSED
CONCERNS THAT THESE RECORDS
REQUIREMENTS MAKE OPTIMIZE AN
INDIVIDUAL'S SAFETY. WE WILL
CERTAINLY GO INTO THOSE CONCERN
IN FURTHER DETAIL AS WE
DISCUSSED THE POLICY
CONSIDERATIONS LATER ON. THE
LEGISLATION RIGHT NOW STILL
INCLUDES AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF
JUNE, 2024. AND IN ENFORCEMENT
DAY OF JUNE, 2025. THIS
LEGISLATION ALSO RESTRICT THE
ENFORCEMENT ROLE TO FORCE
PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS AND
POLICIES, AND DOES NOT REQUIRE
OLS TO USE THE ACTIVATIONS TO
DETERMINE WHETHER THOSE
DEACTIVATION'S WERE
SUBSTANTIATED. WORKERS MAY
PURSUE PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION
OUTSIDE OF OLS. SO THAT
CONCLUDES A BRIEF SUMMARY OF TH
LEGISLATION . I CAN GO AHEAD
AND GO INTO -- CONSIDERATIONS
NOW. SO THE FIRST ISSUE FOR
DISCUSSION IS NETWORK COMPANY
COVERAGE. THIS LEGISLATION
PROPOSES THAT ALL NETWORK
COMPANIES WITH 250 OR MORE AFTE
BASE WORKERS RECOVERED.
MARKETPLACE COMPANIES ARE
CURRENTLY EXEMPT FROM THE APP
BASED WORKER AND MINIMUM PAYMEN
ORDINANCE , AND THE APPA BASED
WORKER -- ORDINANCE. -- THIS
WOULD ALIGN WITH COVERAGE FROM
THOSE OTHER LABOR STANDARDS.
HOWEVER, STAKEHOLDERS REPORT
THAT WORKERS ON MARKETPLACE
NETWORK COMPANY PLATFORMS FACE
VERY SIMILAR ISSUES TO APPA
BASED WORKERS FROM THESE OTHER
NETWORK COMPANIES AND SHOULD NO
BE LEFT OUT. SO YOUR OPTIONS
ARE TO AMEND THE LEGISLATION TO
CREATE AN EXEMPTION FOR
MARKETPLACE COMPANIES OR CHANGE
MOVING ON. THERE ARE NO
QUESTIONS. APPA BASED WORKER
COVERAGE. APPA BASED WORKER
COVERAGE, FOR THE MOST PART,
WOULD BE LIMITED TO WORKERS WHO
HAVE AT LEAST 10% OF THEIR
OFFERS IN THE PAST 180 DAYS
INVOLVING SERVICES IN SEATTLE.
AFTER A WORKER PERFORMS ONE
OFFER IN SEATTLE THEY SHOULD
RECEIVE A NOTICE OF RIGHTS FRO
THE COMPANY IN THIS LEGISLATION
THAT INCLUDES A SYSTEM FOR
WORKERS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR
ELIGIBILITY. MAINLY WHEN THEY
MEET THAT 10% THRESHOLD. THIS
THRESHOLD IS MODELED AFTER
ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS TO
CHALLENGE A DEACTIVATION THAT
WERE IN PLACE FOR SEATTLE'S
DEACTIVATION RIGHTS ORDINANCE.
IT IS INTENDED TO MAKE SURE THA
THERE IS AN ONGOING NEXUS TO
SEATTLE THAT IS NOT OVERLY
BURDENSOME FOR WORKERS . APPA
BASED WORKERS WHO HAVE PERFORME
SERVICES IN SEATTLE ARE NOT
TYPICALLY LIMITED TO WORK IN TH
GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES OF
SEATTLE. THEY OFTEN PERFORM
SERVICES IN OTHER DISTRICTS.
SOME STAKEHOLDERS HAVE ASSERTED
THAT THE -- SHOULD BE INCREASE
TO COVER WORKERS . AT LEAST 50%
OF THE OFFERS IN THE PAST 180
DAYS INVOLVE PERFORMING SERVICE
IN SEATTLE TO CREATE A STRONGER
NEXUS TO SEATTLE-BASED WORK. AN
OTHER STAKEHOLDERS PROPOSED
HAVING ALL AT BASE WORKERS DOES
-- NO MATTER WHAT WORK TAKES
PLACE IN SEATTLE. YOUR OPTIONS
HERE ARE TO CREATE FOR THE
LIMITATIONS ON COVERAGE OR TO
BROADEN COVERAGE. OR TO LEAVE
IT AS IT IS IN THE D ACTION
ORDINANCE. MOVING ON. THE NEX
ISSUE INVOLVES TEMPORARY
DEACTIVATION'S. RIGHT NOW
DEACTIVATION'S IN LEGISLATION
IS DEFINED AS A WOULD ENCOMPAS
. ANY BLOCKING OF AN APPA BASED
WORKERS ACCESS TO THE PLATFORM.
THIS LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW A
NETWORK COMPANY TO TEMPORARILY
DEACTIVATE A WORKER FOR SAFETY
OR EFFICIENCY REASONS WITH 14
DAYS NOTICE. IT WOULD NOT ALLOW
SUCH DEACTIVATION'S WITHOUT 14
DAYS NOTICE. IN PRACTICE, THIS
MEANS THAT A COMPANY WOULD BE
PROHIBITED FROM TEMPORARILY
DEACTIVATING A WORKER FOR
REASONS RELATED TO INCLEMENT
WEATHER. YOU MAY RECALL THE IC
STORM THAT HAPPENED THIS PAST
WINTER. INCIDENTS SUCH AS THAT
WOULD NOT BE COUNTED FOR HERE
AS WELL AS OTHER INSTANCES OF
ACCOUNT SECURITY. THE COMMITTE
MAY WANT TO CONSIDER ALLOWING
FOR SUCH TEMPORARY
DEACTIVATION'S. MOVING ON.
NEXT, WE HAVE AN ISSUE RELATED
TO UNREASONABLE DEACTIVATION.
SUSPECT MOSTLY ABOUT BACKGROUN
CHECKS. AS NOTED EARLIER, THE
PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD
PROHIBIT A NETWORK COMPANY FRO
DEACTIVATING A WORKER BASED ON
THE RESULTS OF A BACKGROUND
CHECK, CONSUMER REPORT, DRIVER
RECORD, OR RECORD OF TRAFFIC
INFRACTIONS, EXCEPT IN THE CASE
OF EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT OR WHER
REQUIRED BY OTHER LAW. NOW
LEGISLATION WOULD PERMIT A
NETWORK COMPANY TO DEACTIVATE A
WORKER IF THE BACKGROUND CHECK
OR OTHER SCREENING SHOWS THAT
THE APPA BASED WORKER ENGAGED I
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT. EGREGIOU
MISCONDUCT INCLUDES ANY ACTION
OR BEHAVIOR THAT WOULD ENDANGE
THE PHYSICAL SAFETY OF A
CUSTOMER OR THIRD PARTY. SOME
COMPANIES HAVE EXPRESSED THAT
THIS PROVISION WOULD INHIBIT
THEIR ABILITY TO REMOVE WORKER
FROM THE APP , THAT WOULD
ENDANGER A CUSTOMER'S SAFETY.
YOU HAVE A SPECTRUM OF OPTIONS
HERE. YOU CAN ELIMINATE THE
PROHIBITION ENTIRELY AND ALLOW
FOR COMPANY TO DEACTIVATE A
WORKER BASED ON THE RESULTS OF
THE BACKGROUND CHECK. YOU CAN
PROVIDE THE PROHIBITION,
SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE DURING
THE QUANTITATIVE METRICS. OR
RESTRICT NETWORK COMPANIES FROM
DEACTIVATING THE APPA BASED
WORKER IF IT IS THE SOLE BASIS
OF A BACKGROUND CHECK OR OTHER
SCREENING, OR NO CHANGE. AS
PROMISED, WE WILL GO BACK TO TH
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT
DEFINITION. THE DEFINITION OF
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT , AS
CURRENTLY DRAFTED, WOULD NOT
ENCOMPASS CONDUCT SUCH AS
HARASSING COMMENTS, INSULTS, O
RACIAL SLURS. THESE ARE
HYPOTHETICALS THAT HAVE BEEN
PROVIDED BY NETWORK COMPANIES.
AS SUCH, NETWORK COMPANIES
CANNOT IMMEDIATELY DEACTIVATE
WORKERS ACCUSED OF ENGAGING IN
THIS TYPE OF CONDUCT. BUT THE
LEGISLATION WOULD , HOWEVER,
ALLOW FOR WORKERS TO BE
DEACTIVATED WITH 14 DAYS NOTICE
, OR FOR OTHER DISCIPLINARY
ACTION TO BE TAKEN AGAINST THE
WORKER. BUT THE COMMITTEE MAY
WANT TO BROADEN THE DEFINITION
OF EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT TO
ENCOMPASS VERBAL AGGRESSION ,
SUCH AS THE HYPOTHETICALS LISTE
BY THE COMPANIES. NEXT SLIDE.
HERE IS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT HAS
BEEN BROUGHT UP IN PUBLIC
COMMENT AND OTHER AREAS. THE
PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIR
THAT EACH DEACTIVATED APPA BASE
WORKER -- TO SUBSTANTIATE A
DEACTIVATION. THE ORDINANCE
WOULD ALLOW CERTAIN PRIVACY
MEASURES TO ANONYMIZE
INFORMATION THAT COMPANIES
REASONABLY BELIEVE COULD
COMPROMISE A CUSTOMER OR
THIRD-PARTY SAFETY. AND IT WOUL
ALLOW FOR OLS TO ISSUE RULES TO
CLARIFY WHAT MEASURES CAN BE
TAKEN. -- IN PROPOSED ORDINANC
WHAT EXACTLY ARE THOSE PRIVACY
MEASURES THAT COULD BE TAKEN?
CURRENTLY THE DRAFT CAN BE
BROADLY INTERPRETED TO ENCOMPAS
ANONYMIZE ASIAN THAT GOES
BEYOND JUST REDACTING NAMES AND
ADDRESSES. THE COMMITTEE MAY
WISH TO PROVIDE GREATER
ASSURANCES AS TO THE TYPES OF
ANONYMIZING MEASURES. SOME
STAKEHOLDERS WISH TO REMOVE THE
REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE THE
RECORDS FOR DEACTIVATION
ENTIRELY. ALSO CITING POTENTIA
PRIVACY AND SAFETY CONCERNS.
HOWEVER, REMOVING ACCESS TO
RECORDS WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY
IMPEDE A WORKER'S ABILITY TO
CHALLENGE AN UNWARRANTED
DEACTIVATION. AS THE NETWORK
COMPANY WOULD HAVE CONTROL OF
THE RECORDS AND INFORMATION
RELATED TO THE DEACTIVATION. SO
AGAIN, YOU HAVE A SPECTRUM OF
OPTIONS HERE TO EITHER CLARIFY
THE ANONYMIZING MEASURES THAT A
COMPANY COULD TAKE, OR TO REMOV
THE REQUIREMENT FOR PROVIDING
RECORDS ENTIRELY. NEXT, WE HAV
AGENCY ENFORCEMENT. IN RESPONSE
TO THE OLS CONCERNED ABOUT TH
FACT INTENSIVE NATURE OF
INVESTIGATING INDIVIDUAL
DEACTIVATION'S THE LEGISLATION
PROPOSES OLS ENFORCE FACIAL
POLICIES AND PROCEDURAL
REQUIREMENTS . AND A WORKER
WOULD BE ABLE TO PURSUE OTHER
ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS THROUGH A
RIGHT OF ACTION. THE CONCEPT
COULD PRESENT SIGNIFICANT
OUTREACH CHALLENGES AND
IMPLEMENTATION CHALLENGES FOR
OLS AND COMMITTEE PARTNERS. AND
IS ARGUABLY NOT NECESSARY
BECAUSE OLS CAN DETERMINE ITS
ENFORCEMENT PRIORITIES.
NEVERTHELESS, OLS AND COUNSEL
MAY BENEFIT FROM MORE EXPLICIT
DIRECTION AS TO THE EXPECTATION
OF ITS ENFORCEMENT PRIORITIES.
WE HAVE A SPECTRUM OF OPTIONS T
EXPLORE WHERE YOU CAN REMOVE
THOSE LIMITATIONS ENTIRELY FRO
THE OLS ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY
AND ALLOW THEM TO DETERMINE
THEIR OWN PRIORITIES. YOU CAN
CLARIFY IN THE LEGISLATION --
PRIORITIZE ENFORCEMENT FOR
FACIAL POLICY REQUIREMENTS, BU
NOT REQUIRE THAT OLS ONLY
ENFORCE THOSE REQUIREMENTS. AN
YOU COULD ALSO , INSTEAD OF
REQUIRING PRIVATIZATION, YOU
COULD JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OL
HAS THE DISCRETION TO
PRIORITIZE ITS ENFORCEMENT
TOWARDS THOSE PROCEDURAL POLIC
REQUIREMENTS. FINALLY, THE LAS
ISSUE IS IMPLEMENTATION
CONSIDERATIONS. OLS REPORTS
THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE RESOURCES
TO IMPLEMENT THE ORDINANCE
WITHOUT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTING
THEIR OTHER WORK. CENTRAL
STAFF IS NOT AWARE OF ANY
GENERAL FUND RESOURCES AVAILABL
TO SUPPORT IN APPROPRIATION
AND OFFSETTING REDUCTION FOR
GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS. SO
YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO INCREASE
FUNDING TO OLS THROUGH SEPARATE
BUDGET INFORMATION, TO DELAY
ACTION UNTIL SOURCES ARE
IDENTIFIED, OR NO CHANGE AND
ALLOW FOR OLS TO DETERMINE ITS
WORK PRIORITIES.
>> THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO FLA
THAT THIS IS A PARTIULAR ISSUE
THAT COUNCIL MEMBER LOUIS AND
ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON WORKING
THROUGH WITH OUR PARTNERS AT
THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS
AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
SPECIFICALLY TO ANSWER THIS
QUESTION. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT
SOME OPTIONS AND WE HOPE TO
BRING BACK THE COMMITTEE TABLE
SOON . THE OBJECTIVE BEING THAT
WE WOULD BRING THESE OPTIONS
WITH THE FULL PARTNERSHIP OF
THE OLS AND MAYORS OFFICE. WE
APPRECIATE THE OVERVIEW OF THE
CONTENTS OF THE ORDINANCE AS
WELL AS AREAS THAT CENTRAL STAF
HAVE IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL
ISSUES THAT COUNCILMEMBERS MA
WANT TO DEVELOP AMENDMENTS ON.
THERE ARE OTHERS AS WELL. THESE
ARE THE TOP ITEMS THAT WE HAVE
IDENTIFIED THROUGH STAKEHOLDER
ENGAGEMENTS, TESTIMONY,
ENGAGEMENTS WITH COUNCILMEMBERS
I UNDERSTAND THAT CENTRAL STAFF
IS ASKING FOR PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS BY JUNE 15th. IS
THAT CORRECT?
>> JUNE 14th.
>> I THINK THAT IS ALSO A SIGNA
TO OUR EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS
THAT OF COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE A
DEADLINE OF JUNE 14th AS AN
AMENDMENT THIS IS A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH WORKER
ADVOCATES AND THE PLATFORMS TO
PUT THEIR HEADS TOGETHER ON
THESE ISSUES TO SEE WHETHER OR
NOT THERE IS FURTHER COMPROMISE
THAT WILL HELP INFORM POTENTIAL
AMENDMENTS RATHER THAN
AMENDMENTS BEING BROUGHT FORWAR
THAT THERE IS NOT STRONG
SUPPORT FOR, OR THAT THERE IS
STRONG SUPPORT FOR AMONG
DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS. AGAIN,
WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN
TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER WITH
THIS LEGISLATION. THERE IS
STILL POTENTIAL TO DO SO.
>> IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR
ME TO EXPRESS THOUGHTS TO GUIDE
THE WORK GOING FORWARD. IT'S
SORT OF A CONCERN THAT I HAVE
THAT THIS LEGISLATION RESTS ON
AN ASSUMED SHARED CONSENSUS OVE
TERMS LIKE FAIR, REASONABLE,
EGREGIOUS, ET CETERA. THAT, I
DON'T BELIEVE SHOULD HAVE SUCH
A PROMINENT PLACE IN A
REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. BECAUSE
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON ONE'S
PERSPECTIVE. AND WE, AS COUNSEL
HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BALANC
THE NEEDS OF THE DRIVERS WITH
THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF TH
CUSTOMERS AND THE SMALL BUSINES
WORKERS THAT ARE INTERACTING
WITH THE DRIVERS. IN ADDITION ,
AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I AM
PERHAPS MORE SENSITIVE TO THE
REPUTATIONAL HARM THAT CAN BE
CAUSED TO SMALL BUSINESSES AND
THE NETWORK COMPANIES FROM
BEING COMPELLED TO RETAIN
WORKERS THAT ENGAGE IN ONGOING
OR SYSTEMATIC FOR CUSTOMER
SERVICE. I BELIEVE THAT THE
BILL DEFINES EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT. AGAIN, IT IS NOT A
LEGAL TERM. IT IS SUBJECTIVE.
IT IS DEFINED TOO NARROWLY
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COVER THE
INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL
DISTRESS. FOR EXAMPLE, A COMPAN
COULD DEACTIVATE A DRIVER --
COULD THEY DEACTIVATE A DRIVER
THAT USES A RACIAL SLUR? WHAT
THEY HAVE TO KEEP A DRIVER FOR
14 DAYS? THERE ARE SOME TERMS
THAT UNDERSTAND, LIKE
PROPORTIONATE. I WOULD LIKE
SOME MORE DEFINITION OF THAT.
HOW DOES ONE DECIDE BEHAVIOR
IS BAD ENOUGH TO MERIT
DEACTIVATION? AGAIN, YOU
MENTIONED THIS. THE PRODUCTION
OF RECORDS IS A VERY BIG CONCER
FOR NETWORK COMPANIES THAT GETS
TO PRIVACY AND SAFETY OF THE
CUSTOMERS THAT ARE BEING SERVED
IT COULD BE FAIRLY EASY TO
FIGURE OUT WHICH CUSTOMER
LODGED A COMPLAINT. WE, AS A
CITY, ARE SENSITIVE TO
PROTECTING PEOPLE THAT IDENTIF
WRONGDOING. LET'S SEE. THE
COVERAGE PART, I'M GLAD YOU PUT
THAT AS AN ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW
WHERE 10% CAME FROM. IF THE
WORKER DOES 10% OF THEIR WORK I
SEATTLE THEN THE WORK IN OTHER
CITIES IS SUBJECTIVE TO
SEATTLE. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE
MAY BE AN EXTRA TERRITORY ISSUE
THERE. WHY NOT 50-50? WHERE DID
THAT COME FROM? AND I KNOW THAT
YOUR ISSUE DOES SAY SOMETHING
ABOUT 180. ELSEWHERE DOES
MENTION 10%. WHATEVER THE
ISSUE HAS BEEN, THERE IS SOME
RATIONALE THAT IS EASILY
UNDERSTANDABLE. LET'S SEE.
THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS. THE
MARKETPLACE NETWORK COMPANY ,
YES WE DID IDENTIFY THAT THEY
WERE EXCLUDED FROM PAY UP. I A
WONDERING WHY THEY ARE INCLUDED
IN THIS LEGISLATION. IT WOULD B
GOOD TO HAVE SOME ALIGNMENT
AMONGST OUR REGULATIONS OF
APPLE-BASED SERVICES. I KNOW
THAT OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. I DO HAV
A QUESTION ABOUT THE BACKGROUND
CHECK. IS THE PROHIBITION OF
BACKGROUND CHECKS, IS THAT PAR
OF THIS LEGISLATION ALIGNED
WITH OUR DNC LEGISLATION?
SOMETIMES IT GETS CONFUSING TO
ME .
>> THAT IS SOMETHING I CAN
DEFTLY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON AN
GET A MORE SPECIFIC ANSWER TO
THAT. OFF OF THE TOP MY HEAD I
WOULDN'T WANT TO VENTURE RIGHT
NOW.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> THANK YOU , CHAIR HERBOLD.
THANK YOU FOR BREAKING DOWN THE
VARIOUS ISSUES FOR US AND
GIVING US OPTIONS. I APPRECIATE
THE CHAIR GIVING US SO MUCH TIM
TO CONSIDER THIS. PREVIOUSLY I
WAS VERY INTERESTED IN KNOWING
WHAT SEATTLE-BASED COMPANIES
ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, THOSE WHO
HAVE EMPLOYEES HERE IN ADDITIO
TO THE APPLE-BASED WORKERS AND
EMPLOYEES AT THE HEADQUARTERS O
THOSE COMPANIES. ROVER IS A KEY
EXAMPLE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
STAKEHOLDERS IT IS SUCH A
WIDE-RANGING TERM. I AM ZEROING
IN . I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DONE
LOT OF WORK TALKING TO WORKING
WASHINGTON AND OTHERS. I JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COMPANIE
LIKE ROVER ALSO ARE ON THE
TABLE AND ABLE TO PROVIDE THE
INPUT FOR HOW THEY WOULD BE
IMPACTED BY THIS. IS IT CENTRA
STAFF? IS IT THE SPONSORS?
>> I PROMISED YOU A LIST LAST
TIME. MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT
GETTING IT TO YOU. WE WILL GET
YOU A LIST OF FOLKS WHO HAVE
BEEN PARTICIPATING.
>> OKAY. I THINK I DID RECEIVE
LIST IN THE PAST. THAT MIGHT
HAVE BEEN FROM A DIFFERENT PIEC
OF LEGISLATION.
>> CENTRAL STAFF PROVIDE YOUR
OFFICE WITH A LIST OF ALL OF TH
POTENTIAL NETWORK COMPANIES THA
MAY BE COVERED AND HIGHLIGHTED
THAT WERE SEATTLE-BASED. THE
STAKEHOLDER AND IS BEING
CONDUCTED BY THE COUNCIL. YOU
WILL BE PROVIDED WITH A LIST OF
COMPANIES TO REACH OUT TO.
>> THINGS. I THOUGHT WORKING I
WASHINGTON IS DOING THAT
PROCESS.
>> THEY ARE ENGAGING SEPARATELY
WITH THE PLATFORMS. SOMETIMES I
BETWEEN MEETINGS. MYSELF AND
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS HAVE ALSO
BEEN LEADING THE MEETINGS. AND
THE APPLE-BASED PLATFORMS, AS
WELL AS HAVING SEVERAL MEETINGS
THIS IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL. I
APPRECIATE GETTING SO MANY OF
THESE ISSUES ON THE TABLE. JUN
14th IS THE DATE BY WHICH
COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF --
>> SORRY, I HAVE ONE MORE THING
IN ADDITION TO ROVER BEING
HEADQUARTERED IN SEATTLE, AND
HAVING SOMEBODY EMPLOYEES AT
THAT ORGANIZATION IN ADDITION
TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE OUT IN
THE FIELD , DOG SITTING, DOG
WALKING. I BELIEVE THERE IS A
GREATER CONCERN THERE AMONG
CUSTOMERS USING THAT PLATFORM
THAT HAVE THEIR PETS BOARDED
OVERNIGHT. SOMETIMES FOR
MULTIPLE DAYS. OBVIOUSLY THERE
IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
APP-BASED WORKER. THEY KNOW
WHERE THEY LIVE. THEY ARE CARIN
FOR THEIR PETS. SO THERE MAY B
OTHER MISCONDUCT ISSUES THAT
ARE AS OBVIOUS FOR SOMEBODY
DROPPING OFF GROCERIES AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S AN EXTRA
LAYER WHEN YOU HAVE PET OWNERS
INVOLVED , AND THE CONCERNS THA
THEY HAVE. HOPEFULLY ROVER IS
BRINGING THE VOICE OF THE PET
OWNERS TO THE TABLE . JUST MAKE
SURE WE ARE NOT MISSING
SOMETHING. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> WRAP UP. JUNE 14th . LET'S
WORK TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY THE
ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO DEVELOP
SMALL CHARGES ON AND GIVE
COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF THE CHANC
TO WORK WITH THAT. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU BOTH
FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
>> I'M SORRY. I HAD A QUESTION.
>> CAN YOU ASK THE QUESTION OFF
LINE SO WE CAN MOVE ON? TO THE
LAST AGENDA ITEM. MR. CLERK?
>> AGENDA ITEM 4. SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT QUARTERLY
STAFFING PERFORMANCE METRICS AN
FINANCES REPORT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AGAIN,
THANK YOU TO SPD FOR YOUR
PATIENCE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE
FOLKS THAT ARE VIRTUALLY
PRESENTING TODAY. THANK YOU
BOTH. LET'S START OFF WITH SOM
INTRODUCTIONS.
>> DOSS, CENTRAL STAFF.
>> THANK YOU. JUST SOME QUICK
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS. IN 2021,
AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS,
THE COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT THIS
COMMITTEE RECEIVE A QUARTERLY
REPORT ON THE DEPARTMENT
STAFFING AND PERFORMANCE
METRICS. WE ARE JOINED TODAY
AGAIN BY COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF'
GREG DOSS FOR THE PERFORMANCE
METRIC AND FINANCES REPORT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ,
COMBING THROUGH ALL THIS DATA T
SHARE INFORMATION WITH THIS
COMMITTEE. IN MARCH OF THIS YEA
WE RECEIVED AN INITIAL
PRESENTATION FROM THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE ON SPD'S RECRUITMENT AN
RETENTION EFFORTS, AS FUNDED BY
A COUNCIL IN AUGUST OF LAST
YEAR. AND AGAIN IN THE BUDGET
PROCESS. WE LEARNED HOW THEY
WERE WORKING TOGETHER TO BEGIN
A SERIES OF INNOVATIVE
STRATEGIES TO RECRUIT AND RETAI
NEW OFFICERS FOR STAFFING
NEEDS. GREG'S PRESENTATION
TODAY WILL TOUCH UPON THIS WORK
WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE
MAYORS OFFICE TO HAVE THEM
RETURN TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR A
SEPARATE PRESENTATION ON
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.
>> THANK YOU FOR HEARING US
TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT
INTRODUCTION OF THIS REPORT. I
DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TO ADD TO I
. WHILE THIS REPORT HAS MY NAME
ON IT I HAVE TO SHARE CREDIT
WITH THE DEPARTMENT WHO HELPS
MAKE SURE THAT I GET IS RIGHT.
TO THINK ANGELA . THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE WITH ME TODAY SO
THAT I SAY THINGS CORRECTLY WHE
I TALK ABOUT SPD'S COMPLICATED
BUDGET. THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE
END OF YOUR STAFFING UPDATE TO
BE PRESENTED IN MARCH. THAT
DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THEIR
CREWMEN AND -- PRESENTATION. A
NOTED EARLIER, WE TALKED ABOUT
THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TODAY.
WITH THAT I WILL DIVE IN. GOIN
TO START WITH THE TABLE OR CHAR
THAT YOU NORMALLY SEE. BEFORE I
DESCRIBE THE CHART I'M GOING TO
TALK ABOUT THE QUARTER ONE
STAFFING NUMBERS. I WILL DIRECT
YOUR ATTENTION TO THE RIGHT,
WHERE YOU WILL SEE WHERE IT SAY
2023 Q1 ACTUALS. THE BIG STORY
HERE IS THAT SEPARATIONS HAVE
SLOWED DOWN AND ARE COMING IN
MUCH CLOSER TO SPD PROJECTIONS.
YOU CAN SEE THEY HAD 28
SEPARATIONS. THAT IS AN AVERAGE
OF ABOUT NINE SEPARATIONS A
MONTH , WHICH IS WHERE THE
DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN SINCE LAST
SUMMER. THAT IS MUCH BETTER THA
IN EARLY 2022, WHEN IT WAS
SEEING ABOUT 13 TO 16
SEPARATIONS PER MONTH. SO THING
ARE GETTING BETTER ON THE
SEPARATION FRONT. NOT QUITE AS
GOOD ON THE HIRING SIDE OF THE
EQUATION, WHERE THEY FELL SHORT
OF THE GOAL, INSTEAD OF
ACHIEVING 26 HIRES IN THE FIRS
QUARTER. -- WE WILL GO INTO
MORE HIRING DISCUSSION YOUR
LITTLE BIT LATER. WE WILL
DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE
BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE. YOU WILL
SEE THAT THE 2023 ANNUAL
PROJECTIONS HAVE BEEN UPDATED.
THE ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS WERE
FOR 120 HIRES IN 2023 , AND 105
SEPARATIONS. THAT WAS THE
FUNDED AMOUNT THAT THE COUNCIL
FUNDED IN THE 2023 ADOPTED
BUDGET. AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES
SPD STAFF ADJUSTS THESE
PROJECTIONS. YOU CAN SEE THAT
THEY HAVE DONE THAT, HERE. THEY
HAVE ADJUSTED THE HIRING
PROJECTION TO 115 TO ACCOUNT
FOR THE FIVE FEWER HIRES IN
QUARTER ONE AND THE SEPARATION
PROJECTION IN 106. WITH THAT A
CONTEXT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
CHART, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE
NUMBER OF FULLY TRAINED OFFICER
, BASICALLY GOING INTO Q4 OF
2023, IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE
LOT. THE EVER SHUT THE WHOLE
YEAR IS GOING TO GET TO 1028.
THE NUMBER OF DEPLOYABLE
OFFICERS, WHAT WE CALL OFFICERS
IN SERVICE, IS GOING TO BE A BI
LOWER AT 928. I SHOULD NOTE
THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THOSE TWO NUMBERS, THE 1020 AND
928, IS THE NUMBER OF FOLKS
THAT ARE OUT ON DISABILITY OR
LONG-TERM LEAVE. YOU HAVE
FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS AND THEN
YOU TAKE AWAY 100 OFFICERS THAT
ARE OUT ON DISABILITY AND OTHE
KINDS OF LONG-TERM LEAVES. THAT
LEAVES YOU WITH 928 DEPLOYABLE
OFFICERS. THOSE ARE PROJECTION
THAT THE DEPARTMENT MAKES. AS
YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
ACTUALS IN Q1, THERE WEREN'T
QUITE 100. THERE WERE ABOUT 80.
1029 FULLY TRAINED AND 949
DEPLOYABLE. IF THINGS WORK OUT
THAT SAME WAY AT THE END OF TH
YEAR THAN THERE SHOULD BE A FEW
MORE OFFICERS. THE DEPARTMENT
HAS BEEN DOING A PRETTY GOOD JO
ON ESTIMATING THE NUMBER OF
DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS. IT HAS BEE
QUITE HIGH LATELY. THIS NUMBER
HAS COME IN HIGHER THAN NORMAL.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A PRETTY
GOOD JOB.
>> IN ADDITION TO THE
SEPARATIONS BEING DOWN , AS
COMPARED TO PAST YEARS, AND I
RECOGNIZE THAT THE STAFFING PLA
ACTUALS ARE NOT EXACTLY ALIGNE
WITH THE PROJECTIONS. BUT THEY
ARE THE CLOSEST THAT THEY HAVE
BEEN TO THE PROJECTIONS OVER TH
LAST THREE YEARS. I WANT TO MAK
NOTE OF THAT. IT IS POSITIVE
MOVEMENT.
>> THAT IS TRUE. WE WILL BE
TALKING ABOUT THAT LATER AS
WELL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON?
>> HOW ARE PROJECTIONS DERIVED
>> I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE
DIRECTOR TO TALK ABOUT.
>> I'M HAPPY TO. AS WE ALL
KNOW, THE LAST FEW YEARS WE
HAVE DEVIATED FROM THE NORM IN
TERMS OF SEPARATIONS. WE
CONTINUE TO USE THE SAME
METHODOLOGY FOR SEPARATIONS
SPECIFICALLY. WE TAKE A
DIFFERENT APPROACH FOR
SEPARATIONS FROM FULLY TRAINED
OFFICERS. WE LOOK AT AVERAGE
RESIGNATIONS RELATIVE TO THE
NUMBER OF FULLY TRAINED OFFICER
FOR A THREE-YEAR PERIOD.
OBVIOUSLY THE LAST THREE YEARS
WILL INFLATE THAT NUMBER A
LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE SOME
ADJUSTMENTS TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT
THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE EXPECTED
THE PROJECTIONS TO GO DOWN
FIRST AND SEPARATION OFFICERS
AND RECRUITS. WE ARE ALSO
LOOKING AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF
HIRES AND A PROPORTION OF HOW
MANY WE EXPECT TO FILL OUT
BASED ON PAST NUMBERS.
>> SEE YOU DERIVE AN AVERAGE
BASED ON NUMBERS FOR THE PAST
THREE YEARS ? AND THIS WILL GO
BACK TO 2020.
>> THREE YEARS FOR THE FULLY
TRAINED OFFICERS. THAT IS
CORRECT. WE DID HISTORY AVERAG
IN 2023. WE HAD TO DEVIATE FROM
OUR NORMAL METHODOLOGY BECAUSE
WE DIDN'T WANT TO INFLATE THE
SEPARATION NUMBERS BASED ON OUR
2023 TO 2022 YEAR PERIOD SO
THIS YEAR WE CHATTED WITH HR AN
ENGAGED WITH THE EXECUTIVE. WE
KIND OF TOOK A MORE HOLISTIC
APPROACH RATHER THAN STICKING
TO THE HISTORY AVERAGE THAT WE
HAVE BEEN USING IN PREVIOUS
YEARS.
>> WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE
ROAD ON THAT, FOR THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS I BELIEVE THAT
THE SEPARATION PROJECTION HAS
BEEN AROUND 94 OR 90 . RAISING
IT UP TO 105 THIS YEAR , A
LITTLE MORE REALISTIC.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR HERBOLD. I
AM DISAPPOINTED BY THESE NUMBER
. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A NET LOSS
OF TWO OFFICERS IF I JUST TAKE
THE ACTUAL HIRES MINUS THE
SEPARATIONS REALIZED. IT'S A
LOSS OF TWO OFFICERS. I WANT
TO THANK THE OFFICERS WERE
STAYING WITH THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO STAY AND SERVE.
HOPE THAT THOSE THAT ARE
REMAINING WILL CONTINUE TO STAY
I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER THER
HAVE BEEN EXIT INTERVIEWS WITH
THE 28 SEPARATIONS SO THAT WE
KNOW THE REASONS WHY THEY ARE
STILL LEAVING.
>> SPD HR DOES DO EXIT
INTERVIEWS. EACH TIME AN OFFICE
LEAVES THAT IS NOT SOMETHING
THAT WE LOOK AT PRIOR TO THIS
PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THE
INTERVIEWS THAT ARE BEING
CONDUCTED AS PART OF RECRUITMEN
AND RETENTION UNDER THE CITY'S
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
INITIATIVE , THAT IS BEING RUN
BY THE CITY BUDGET OFFICE, THEY
ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT DATA
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO
SHARE WITH YOU TODAY. CENTRAL
STAFF ASKED FOR THAT DATA AND
WE WERE TOLD IT WAS A LITTLE
PREMATURE TO GET ANY OF THAT
INFORMATION. IT IS SOMETHING
THAT THE EXECUTIVE IS LOOKING A
AND PUTTING TOGETHER AS PART O
THE LARGER PUZZLE ON MAKING
SURE THAT OFFICERS STAY WITH SP
AND THAT WE CAN RECRUIT
OFFICERS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE
>> TO FOLLOW UP, CHAIR, WHEN
WILL WE BE ABLE TO SEE AN
ANALYSIS OF THE EXIT INTERVIEWS
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN
JUST WEST?
>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I
WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ASK TH
EXECUTIVE FOR AS PART OF A
PRESENTATION THAT THEY ARE
PLANNING TO GIVE SOON ON
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION. THE
HAD SAID THAT THEY WERE
INTERESTED IN GIVING ONE IN JUN
AND THEN WORKING WITH BOTH THE
EXECUTIVE SIDE AND THE CHAIR TO
SEE IF THAT SCHEDULE WORKS, OR
WHAT SCHEDULE UPCOMING MIGHT
WORK. THAT IS A TIME THAT THEY
MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
>> COUNTS MEMBER PEDERSEN, OF
THE 2820 OF THOSE ARE
RETIREMENTS. SEVEN RESIGNATIONS
AND ONE DISCHARGE.
PROBATIONARY DISCHARGE.
>> I BELIEVE SOME RETIREMENTS
END UP BEING EARLY RETIREMENTS
IN THE EXIT INTERVIEW THE
OFFICER MAY STATE THEY DID NOT
WANT TO RETIRE, BUT THEY ARE
RETIRING EARLY BECAUSE THEY WER
NOT HAPPY ABOUT SOMETHING. THE
ARE ONLY 28. IS NOT THAT MANY T
HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I REALLY
WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ANALYSIS O
THAT. WITH THE JUNE REPORT.
>> HAPPILY. I WILL ADD THAT 12
OF THOSE 20 HAVE GREATER THAN 3
YEARS OF SERVICE.
>> THANK YOU, ANGELA. WE SHOUL
NOT BE ENGAGED IN CORRECTIVE
ACTION AROUND THESE FINDINGS -
THE LATEST POLICE EXECUTIVE
RESEARCH FORUM STUDY SHOWS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY , THERE ARE
STILL OFFICERS THAT ARE LEAVING
THEIR DEPARTMENT FASTER THAN
HIRING CAN KEEP UP. THE
FINDINGS SHOW GOOD AND BAD NEWS
HIRING IS PICKING BACK UP AS
RESPONDING AGENCIES REPORTED
HIRING MORE SWORN OFFICERS .
HOWEVER, AGENCIES ARE LOSING
OFFICERS FASTER THAN THEY CAN
HIRE NEW ONES. SO TOTAL SWORN
STAFFING HAS CONTINUED TO
DECLINE. THIS INFORMATION IS
AVAILABLE ACCORDING TO
DEPARTMENT SIZE AS WELL. AGAIN
JUST TRYING TO PUT THIS IN THE
NATIONAL CONTEXT WITHOUT IT AL
SUGGESTING THAT WE SHOULD NOT
BE ASSERTIVELY ENGAGED IN TAKIN
CORRECTIVE ACTION. I APPRECIATE
THE QUESTIONS.
>> THIS SHOWS HOW THE STAFFING
IMPACTS BREAKDOWN IN SALARY. I
WILL EXPLAIN THE TOP LINE. THE
AVERAGE ANNUAL FTE LINE SHOWS
THAT THE 2023 ADOPTED BUDGET WA
FUNDED FOR 1113 FTE. SPD NOW
PROJECTS THAT IT WILL USE SALAR
FOR 1092 FTE. THAT IS A
DIFFERENCE OF 21 FTE. THAT'S
21, OF COURSE, REFLECTS THE FIV
FEWER HIRES THAT WE TALKED
ABOUT. THE ONE ADDITIONAL
SEPARATION. IT ALSO REPRESENTS
STAFFING CHANGES THAT OCCURRED
LAST FALL. SO SINCE LAST FALL
THE DEPARTMENT MADE ABOUT 10
FEWER HIRES THAN THEY EXPECTED.
AND THEY ALSO HAD SOME UNPLANNE
SEPARATIONS. SO WHEN YOU ROLLED
OUT ALTOGETHER INTO THE 21
VACANT FTE , WHAT HAPPENS IS
THAT SPD WILL SEE ABOUT 3
MILLION IN SWORN SALARY SAVINGS
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OF 2023.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS
IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE BUT
SOMETHING THAT WILL ACCRUE
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IF SPD GET
BACK ON ITS PLAN , 115 HIRES AN
106 SEPARATIONS, AND NOTHING
ELSE CHANGES, THEN YOU WILL SE
THAT 3 MILLION. IF SOMETHING
ELSE CHANGES, THERE ARE FEWER
HIRES OR MORE SEPARATIONS AND
MAYBE MORE SALARY SAVING. SO
THAT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, CAN BE A
VERY DYNAMIC SITUATION AND FLUI
NUMBER DEPENDING ON HOW THE
STAFFING PLAN RECEIVES.
PRECINCT STAFFING IS UP ABOUT
16 OFFICERS AT THE BOTTOM LINE.
THE VERY TOTAL 530 IS UP FROM
ABOUT 513 AT THE YEAR END
REPORT. THE MAJOR CHANGE HERE
IS THAT SEVEN OFFICERS THAT WER
IN THE WEST PRECINCT MOVED FROM
-- INTO 911 RESPONSE. THERE IS
NO LONGER A DEDICATED -- PRETT
MUCH WITH THE DEDICATED SEATTLE
CENTER OFFICERS MEANS THAT
PATROL STAFFING IS NOW A
DEDICATED 911 RESPONSE. AND
THEN THIS SLIDE IS MEANT TO GIV
YOU A HISTORY OF NINE ON ONE
RESPONSE AND OVERALL PATROL
FUNCTION. WE WILL SPEND A LOT O
TIME HERE. YOU HAVE SEEN THIS
BEFORE. IF YOU LOOK BACK YOU'LL
SEE THAT THE OFFICERS AND
SERGEANTS USED TO BE MORE THAN
THE SUM OF 911 RESPONSES. USED
TO HAVE FOOT BEATS, BIKES, CPT
A.C.T.. NOW IT IS PRETTY MUCH
JUST 911 RESPONSE. NOW WE WILL
GET INTO ACCOUNT MONITORING. SO
WE WILL START WITH SPD'S LARGES
CATEGORIES OF EXPENDITURES.
SALARY OVER TIME AND ALLOCATIN
ANY COSTS. I THINK YOU ARE
FAMILIAR, THESE MAKE UP ABOUT
90% OF EXPENDITURES. THEY WERE
$82 MILLION IN THE FIRST QUARTE
OF THIS YEAR. THAT IS UP FROM
$76 MILLION. NOT MUCH SHIFTING
OF EXPENSES GOING ON HERE.
THERE IS A CHANGE IN OVERTIME
SPENDING, WHICH WE WILL TALK
ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER. ON TH
NEXT SLIDE I WILL SHOW YOU HOW
THESE EXPENDITURES COMPARED TO
BUDGET. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
START WITH THE BIG PICTURE,
SHOWING WHAT MOST IS SPENT IS
ON THE ALLOCATED COSTS , WHICH
IS PAYING FOR ITS BILLINGS.
GETTING INTO COMPARING THESE
AGAINST BUDGET. YOU'LL SEE THA
THE FIRST SECTION HERE SHOWS
THROUGH MARCH, 2022, AND HOW
THAT PICTURE LOOK. AND THEN, TO
THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE JANUARY
THROUGH MARCH OF 2023 AND HOW
THAT PICTURE LOOKS. BOTH OF THE
ARE AGAINST BUDGET. [
CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]
WE SHOULD EXPECT THE FIRST
QUARTER TO BE WELL BELOW THE
STANDARD PROPORTIONAL BREAKOUT
BECAUSE THE REAL OVERTIME
SPENDING DOES NOT USUALLY START
HAPPENING UNTIL THE SPRING OR
SUMMER SEASONS. AT 28%, IT IS
CAUSE FOR CONCERN RIGHT NOW.
ONE MORE THING I WILL SAY IS
THAT I THINK THE COMMITTEE IS
AWARE, AS WE WENT OVER THE
BUDGET LAST YEAR, THE DARK
DEPARTMENT SPENT 33.7 MILLION.
THE EXECUTIVE PROPOSED A HIGHER
BUDGET FOR 2023, BUT BECAUSE
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET IS
WRITTEN OVER THE SUMMER, CEOs
BEST GUESS AT THAT TIME WAS FOR
31.3 MILLION. I THINK IT IS
SAFE TO SAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT
IS ON TRACK TO EXCEED 31.3
MILLION. THAT'S IN THE OVERTIM
BUDGET. I THINK IT'S ALSO
PROBABLY THE CASE THAT IT WILL
EXCEED THAT FIGHT MORE THAN THE
SALARY SAVINGS THAT WE ARE
SEEING NOW.
>> THANK YOU. I SEE THAT YOU
HAVE THE NARRATIVE THAT
OVERTIME HAS BEEN USED FOR
PATROL AUGMENTATION COVERAGE .
DO WE HAVE A BREAKOUT OF OF TH
OVERTIME HOURS PER USE.
>> YES. COMING RIGHT UP.
>> OKAY.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO
HIT THESE OTHER CATEGORIES
QUICKLY, AND THEN WE WILL GET T
A DEDICATED OVERTIME
CONVERSATION. I'M NOT GOING TO
TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT THESE. I
THINK YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH
THESE. SERVICE CONSULTANTS AND
THESE CATEGORIES HOLD THINGS
LIKE THE CITY'S RED LIGHT
CAMERAS AND CONSULT CONTRACTS.
OTHER CHARGES , BILLING RENTALS
SUCH AS THE OPA OFFICE AND THE
WAREHOUSE. DISCRETIONARY
PURCHASES, EVERYTHING ELSE .
GUNS, OFFICE SUPPLIES. SO THES
CATEGORIES ARE THE REMAINING 10
OF THE BUDGET. EVERYTHING ELSE
THAT WE HAVE NOT JUST TALKED
ABOUT. YOU'LL SEE THAT THE
ABSOLUTE SPENDING IS UP FROM
6.4 MILLION LAST YEAR TO 9.4
MILLION THIS YEAR. A LOT OF
THAT IS DUE TO THE WAY THAT THE
ADOPTED BUDGET WAS WRITTEN. A
LOT OF THE MONEY THAT HAD
ACCRUED IN SALARY SAVINGS IN
2022 GOT REPROGRAMMED IN 2023
INTO THINGS LIKE THE RECRUITMEN
AND RETENTION INITIATIVE.
MARKETING AND ADVERTISING . OR
INTO NEW TASERS. SO A LOT OF
THAT MADE ITS WAY INTO SOME OF
THESE NEW EXPENDITURES IN THES
NEW CATEGORIES. THAT IS WHY YOU
SEE A BIT MORE SPENDING IN THES
AREAS THAN IN PRIOR YEARS.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO TOO MUCH
INTO THIS SLIDE BECAUSE THE
CHALLENGE WITH TRYING TO TRACK
THESE LOWER-LEVEL ACCOUNTS IS
THAT SPD HAS ENCUMBRANCES
AGAINST THIS ACCOUNT , WHICH
MEANS THEY HAVE CONTRACTS THAT
ARE PENDING. IT'S A DIFFICULT
THING TO TRACK IN REAL TIME.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT WITH THE
SERVICES AND CONSULTANTS AND
DISCRETIONARY PURCHASES, THEY
ARE 60% EXPENDED IF YOU LOOK AT
THE CONTRACTS, AND AGAIN, THOSE
ARE THINGS LIKE TASERS FOR THE
RED LIGHT CAMERAS, AND SO
PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY TO SUM
IT UP IS TO SAY, AT THIS POINT
OF THE YEAR, WITH SPENDING, THE
ARE ON TRACK TO SPEND WHAT THEY
WERE APPROPRIATED. THE ONE
EXCEPTION WOULD BE IN
SEPARATION PAY. THEY ARE
RUNNING AHEAD IN THAT AREA.
ACTUALLY, I WOULD ASK DIRECTOR
SOCHI TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
>> YEAH. A COUPLE OF THINGS
COULD BE AT PLAY HERE. I'M STIL
WORKING TO VALIDATE, BUT THE SP
A CONTRACT THAT WAS RECENTLY
SIGNED, MODIFIED THE SEPARATION
PAYOUT FOR LIEUTENANTS AND
CAPTAINS, WHICH IS GOING TO
INCREASE OUR OBLIGATION, WHEN
PEOPLE DO WHEN THE RANKING
OFFICERS SEPARATE THE
DEPARTMENT. SECOND, AS I
MENTIONED EARLIER, THE MAJORITY
OF OUR SEPARATIONS AT THIS POIN
OUR RETIREMENTS. FIVE PEOPLE
WITH GREATER THAN 30 YEARS OF
SERVICE, TYPICALLY, THOSE
PAYOUTS ARE GOING TO BE LARGER
BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE I
DELETED MORE OVER THE COURSE OF
IT CAREER HERE THAN A 5 TO 10
YEAR OFFICER.
>> SO THANKS, ANGELA. THAT IS A
AREA THAT THE CENTRAL CITY
BUDGET OFFICE AND US HAVE BEEN
WORKING ON TO TRY TO GET A
HANDLE ON OVER THE LAST COUPLE
OF YEARS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN
DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF
INCREASING THAT, BUT DUE TO SOM
CONTRACT CHANGES, THAT STILL MA
WIND UP GOING INTO EXCESS OF
BUDGET. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GET
INTO OVERTIME. SO ON THIS SLIDE
I SEPARATE OUT THE SMALLER
OVERTIME DRIVERS AND THESE
OVERTIME DRIVERS ARE LESS THAN
5000 HOURS , AND AS YOU CAN SEE
HERE, SORT OF THE HIGHLIGHTS,
THERE IS A NEW METROPOLITAN
BUREAU THAT GOT ADDED. THIS IS
RESULT OF THEM COMING BACK TO
SPD. ONE THING TO HIGHLIGHT HER
IS THAT THE PEO'S ONLY HAD 181
HOURS OF OVERTIME. SO NOT A
WHOLE LOT OF PEO OVERTIME.
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE PUT IT IN
THE CONTEXT OF THE TRAFFIC
DIVISION HAVING 681 HOURS. SO
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOW
BEING TRACKED IN THIS NEW METRO
DIVISION. THE SQUAD OVERTIME IS
UP BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL
CALLOUTS AND BARRICADED
SUBJECTS. I THINK THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN
THE NEWS A LOT LATELY. AND THEN
THE OTHER THING I POINT OUT, TH
REASON THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS
SOMEWHAT HIGHER THIS YEAR, THAT
IS MORE OF A RE-ORGANIZATIONAL
ISSUE. THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAD
MANY UNITS ORGANIZED INTO THEIR
BUREAU , THIS ADOPTED BUDGET.
THEY PUT A LOT OF NEW UNITS IN
THERE, SUCH AS THE WELLNESS
UNIT, AND THE BADGE UNIT. THER
IS SOME OVERTIME GOING INTO TH
CHIEF OF POLICE BUREAU BECAUSE
OF REORGANIZATION. THIS SLIDE
IS ONE THAT YOU WOULD BE MOST
INTERESTED IN. THESE ARE THE
LARGE OVERTIME DRIVERS. HERE,
YOU CAN SEE THAT WORKING FROM
LEFT TO RIGHT, THIS IS WHERE
YOU SEE THE STAFFING CHALLENGES
OF THE DEPARTMENT. PROFESSIONAL
STANDARDS, THE FIRST ONE ON THE
LEFT, IS REALLY THE TRAINING
SECTION. IT IS HIGHER BECAUSE
THERE IS A LOWER NUMBER OF
REGULARLY ASSIGNED OFFICERS. IT
IS HAVING TO BORROW OFFICERS O
OVERTIME TO DO REGULAR TRAINING
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS IS UP
ACROSS MOST OF ITS CATEGORIES.
PATROL OPERATIONS HAS BEEN UP
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
HAVE BEEN TOLD BY SPD COMMAND
THAT NEARLY ALL OF SPD'S SHIFT
NOW ARE STAFFED WITH OVERTIME
AUGMENTATION FOR SICK LEAVE OR
BACKFILL. AS YOU CAN SEE, 14%
OVER 2022. THAT IS UP.
AND EVENTS AND SPORTING EVENTS
ARE BOTH UP 58% OVER THE LAST
YEAR. SO ALL IN ALL, OVERTIME I
UP ACROSS MOST OF THESE
CATEGORIES. AND I SEE WE HAVE
SOME QUESTIONS.
>> YEAH. THAT SECOND BULLET
POINT IS THE MOST TROUBLING TO
ME. 80% OF OVERTIME IS FOR
PRECINCT MINIMUM STAFFING
LEVELS. THAT MEANS WE ARE USING
OVERTIME JUST TO HAVE ENOUGH
PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE THERE ,
JUST FOR REGULAR STAFFING NEEDS
SO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
OVERTIME, IT IS NOT ESPECIALLY,
TO ME, IT IS NOT THE SPECIAL
EVENTS THAT ARE DRIVING
OVERTIME EXPENDITURES, PLUS,
THOSE ARE PAID BACK, I
UNDERSTAND. AND I DIDN'T EVEN
FACTOR IN THE SWAT CALLS. I
DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A THING.
THE THING IS THE FACT THAT WE
HAVE TROUBLE EVEN MEETING OUR
MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS IS WHAT
I'M ZEROING IN ON . THAT WILL
RELATE TO EFFORTS TO BRING ON
MORE OFFICERS AND THEREFORE,
GETTING INTO THE RECRUITMENT AN
RETENTION PLAN. I WILL SAY MORE
ABOUT THAT LATER. THIS IS THE
CRUX OF THE MATTER TO ME, AND I
ILLUSTRATES THAT WE DO NEED TO
-- WE HAVE SALARY SAVINGS, AS
YOU MENTIONED, I CAN'T REMEMBE
WHICH PAGE THAT WAS, BUT WE
MENTIONED THAT WE REPROGRAMMED
2022 SALARY SAVINGS FOR
RECRUITMENT, AND IT WOULD BE
GOOD TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON
RECRUITMENT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE
THE SALARY SAVINGS AGAIN THIS
YEAR. COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON AN
I WERE THE ONLY TWO TO VOTE TO
NOT PROVISO THAT MONEY BECAUSE
WE SHOULD HAVE IT AVAILABLE FOR
OVERTIME. AND SO, I'M INTERESTE
TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE THINKIN
ON THAT, PERHAPS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES AND SPD, NOT
NECESSARILY KNOW, BUT LATER ON.
BECAUSE THIS IS A TROUBLING
TREND. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON. I AGREE THAT
DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE TO USE
OVERTIME IN ORDER TO REACH
MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS IS --
IN NO WAY IS IT IDEAL. IT IS
ALSO A SITUATION THAT THE
COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMUNICATION
CENTER IS FACED WITH, AS WELL A
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO A LOT O
OUR FIRST RESPONDER WORK IS
REALLY RELIANT ON THE ABILITY O
OUR WORKERS TO ACCESS OVERTIM
, AND WE WILL, OF COURSE, AS WE
DID LAST YEAR, HAVE ADDITIONAL
CONVERSATIONS. ABOUT ADDRESSIN
THOSE OVERTIME NEEDS. THAT'S
GIVEN THAT WE ARE -- WE HAVE
FUNDED WITH SALARY SAVINGS IN
2022, WE DID FUND RECRUITMENT
ACTIVITIES . TO MY KNOWLEDGE
AND UNDERSTANDING, THOSE 20 $2
HAVE NOT BEEN SPENT, MUCH LESS
THE 20 $23. THIS IS A VERY
IMPORTANT AREA FOR CONVERSATION
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. BY
WAY OF HISTORY, LAST YEAR, AS
BOTH OF YOU MENTIONED, THE
SALARY SAVINGS WERE USED TO
COVER RECRUITMENT AND RETENTIO
EXPENSES, AS WELL AS OVERTIME
COSTS. THERE WERE ENOUGH SALAR
SAVINGS TO DO BOTH. AND SO, IN
THE MIDYEAR SUPPLEMENTAL, THER
WERE SOME SALARY SAVINGS THAT
WERE REDIRECTED TOWARDS
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, AND
THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, TH
YEAR-END SUPPLEMENTAL, THE
PROVISO THAT COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON TALKED ABOUT WAS RELEASE
SO THAT IT COULD COVER THE
OVERTIME OVERAGES , AND SO, THA
IS SOMETHING THE COUNCIL COULD
CHOOSE TO DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR
WHEN THEY HAVE A MORE FULL
PICTURE OF SPD'S EXPENSES. SO,
MOVING ON TO RESPONSE TIMES.
SINCE I MET LAST MADE THIS
REPORT, RESPONSE TIMES HAVE
CHANGED LITTLE. THE AVERAGE LES
THAN I MADE THIS REPORT WAS 10.
MILLION OR 23 MILLION. 10.3
MINUTES INSTEAD OF 10.4 MINUTES
IT HAS GONE UP A SECOND. THE
MEDIAN WAS 7.2 , INSTEAD OF 7.3
NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE THERE
THESE ARE CALLS THAT SPD IS NO
ABLE TO ANSWER. THEY ARE
EXACTLY THE SAME AS THEY WERE
LAST TIME AT 95.5%.
>> EXCUSE ME, CHAIR.
>> ONE SECOND, COUNCILMEMBER
PETERSON. I DID WANT TO NOTE
THIS FIRST BULLET. SPD'S
RESPONSE TIME GOAL IS A SEVEN
MINUTE MEDIAN TIME, ALTHOUGH TH
DEPARTMENT KNOWS THAT THERE IS
VALUE IN REPORTING BOTH THE
AVERAGE IN THE MEDIAN. I JUST
WANT TO CLARIFY THE RESPONSE
TIME GOALS, SEVEN MINUTE MEDIAN
TIME. I BELIEVE FOR PRIORITY ON
CALLS. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. I SHOULD'VE
MENTIONED THAT. THANK YOU.
>> I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO
GET A PRESENTATION REFLECTIN
THAT. COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON.
>> APOLOGIES. MY QUESTION IS FO
THE NEXT SLIDE.
>> GOT IT. CARRY ON, GREG.
>> ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO THIS
NEXT SLIDE, SO HERE YOU WILL
FIND ANALYSIS OF THE RESPONSE
TIMES BY PRECINCT. THIS ANALYSI
WAS CREATED AND PROVIDED BY
SPD'S DATA DRIVEN UNITS. THE
MOST IMPORTANT THING , WHEN
YOU'RE LOOKING AT DATA TABLES I
THAT THESE PERCENTAGE CHANGES
MAY SOMETIMES LOOK RATHER LARGE
THEY MAY MEAN A SMALL CHANGE.
IT COULD BE PURE NUMBERS IN
TERMS OF SECONDS. SO THAT IS
SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT,
AS YOU CAN SEE OVERALL, THEY
ARE NOT REALLY IDENTIFYING ANY
OVERARCHING TRENDS RIGHT NOW.
THEY SAY THAT A CLEARER PICTURE
MAY EMERGE LATER THIS YEAR. THA
IS KIND OF THE BIG PICTURE
THERE.
>> THANK YOU, GREG.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR HERBOLD.
AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE
IT INCREASES ACROSS ALL
PRIORITY LEVELS. IT HAD THE
HIGHEST RESPONSE TIMES OUT OF
THE FIVE PRECINCTS. NINE MINUT
MEDIAN TIME IS COMPLETELY
UNACCEPTABLE. THAT FAR EXCEEDS
THE BEST PRACTICE STANDARD. IT
REMAINS THE HIGHEST IN THE CITY
AND IT HAS GOTTEN WORSE SINCE
2020 22 AND 2020. I WOULD LIKE
TO KNOW, IN THE NORTH PRECINCT,
WHY THIS IS HAPPENING AND WHAT
IS BEING DONE TO MAKE IT BETTER
IS SPD ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT
>> WE WILL GET YOU A RESPONSE.
DON'T THINK ANGELA IS THE BEST
PERSON TO GET TO THAT QUESTION.
>> UNDERSTOOD.
>> I WILL MAKE SURE THAT
SOMEBODY FROM OPERATIONS
RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION,
COUNCILMEMBER.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMAN
PETERSON.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO RECRUITMENT AN
RETENTION. TO GIVE YOU A LITTL
BACKGROUND HERE, ON MARCH 20th,
IN LOUISVILLE, STAFFING
PRESENTATION, FOR ME, IN THE
FIRST QUARTER, THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE MADE TO THIS COMMITTEE A
PRESENTATION ON RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION, AND AT THAT TIME,
THEY UNVEILED THEIR PLAN . THEI
MULTIPRONGED PLAN FOR
RECRUITMENT AND ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS THAT CAME FROM
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WAS HOW
MUCH THEY WERE SPENDING BY
CATEGORY IN THE AREAS OF
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION. AT
THAT TIME, THE EXECUTIVES SAID
THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE THAT
INFORMATION TO ME TO PROVIDE IN
THIS PRESENTATION. AND SO, THA
IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. I HAVE
THAT INFORMATION NOW. I'M GOING
TO START WITH THE SPENDING IN
2022. I HAVE THIS BROKEN UP INT
TWO SLIDES. THE FIRST ONE, 2022
AND THE SECOND ONE IN 2023. AS
YOU CAN SEE HERE, LAST YEAR, IT
WAS IN THE LATE FALL. THAT IS
WHEN THE HIRING BONUS PERIOD
STARTED. 7500 FOR NEW RECRUITS
AND 30,004 HIRING LATERALS, AN
YOU CAN SEE THE LINE THERE FOR
THE FIRST PAYMENT. THE SECOND
PAYMENT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, OF
COURSE. THE PAYMENTS FOR THESE
BONUSES ARE BROKEN AND THE FIRS
TIME AT THE END OF THE PROBATIO
PERIOD, WHICH IS ABOUT A YEAR.
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS
HIGHLIGHTED THAT BETWEEN THIS
PERIOD, BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 22,
AND MARCH 2023, SPD MADE A
TOTAL OF 29 HIRES, WHICH IS
BETTER THAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE
SAME EXACT SAME PERIOD IN THE
TWO YEARS BEFORE. SEPTEMBER 202
TO MARCH 2022, WHEN IT MADE 42
HIRES. IN TERMS OF
SCIENTIFICALLY RELATING THAT TO
THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
INITIATIVE, THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO COME
AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN THE
PRESENT THEIR ANALYSIS OF THE
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
INITIATIVE, BUT MORE
INFORMATION WILL COME IN JUNE,
WHEN THEY PRESENT TO THIS
COMMITTEE. THEIR LARGER
STRATEGY. AND SO THAT LEADS INT
THAT THIRD BULLET OF THE FACT
THAT SPD BEGAN ADMINISTERING
SURVEYS TO ALL THE POLICE IN
NOVEMBER. IT CALLS FOR THEM TO
COLLECT ONE FULL YEAR OF DATA
BEFORE THE EVALUATION AND TO
SUBMIT THAT REPORT TO COUNCIL 1
MONTHS AFTER BEGINNING TO OFFER
THE INCENTIVE. AND SO I THINK
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST STORY YOU
SEE ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT
THERE'S 168,000 SPENT AROUND
RECRUITMENT TECHNOLOGY PROCESS.
AND THAT WAS -- WE HEARD IN
THE MAYOR'S PRESENTATION ON
MARCH 28th, THAT WAS THE GOOD
NEWS THAT THEY SHARED ABOUT HO
THEY HAD TRANSITIONED TO A NEW
ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND SYSTEM AN
UPDATED PHYSICAL AGILITY
TESTING OPTIONS, AND ADDED
ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR MEDICAL
SCREENING. SO THAT WAS THE BIG
STEP FORWARD THAT THEY HAD MADE
AROUND THE RECRUITING PROCESSES
FOR AT LEAST THE THICK
TECHNOLOGY PROCESSES OF MAKING
THE RECRUITMENT -- THE PROCESS
OF BRINGING IN RECRUITS.
OBVIOUSLY, NOT A LOT IN
MARKETING OR ADVERTISING YET.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE ON , THE NEW
POSITIONS AT SDH ARE , THEY AR
IS NOT STILL A PLAN TO HIRE FO
THESE POSITIONS?
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE
ARE HIRED WITH THE -- I THINK
THE LAST ONE IS STILL ON
PROCESS AND IT IS THE TESTING
POSITION THAT IS CURRENTLY IN
úPROCESS, BUT I BELIEVE THEY AR
ALL HIRED NOW. ANGELA, DO YOU
HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION ON
THAT?
>> I DON'T. I DON'T HAVE STATU
FOR THE TESTING POSITION. I KNO
THAT THE OTHER POSITIONS, THEY
HAVE CANDIDATES FOR AND WE HAVE
RECEIVED INVOICES FOR THOSE
LABOR COSTS.
>> THANK YOU, ANGELA. I'M
TALKING ABOUT, NOT THE
RECRUITMENT TECHNOLOGY PROCESS
LINE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NEW
POSITIONS AT SDHR. I THINK
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING
TO, REPRESENTATIVE SOCCI. THERE
HAS NOT BEEN SPENDING UP THE
$2022, BUT I HEAR YOU SAYING
THAT THERE ARE CANDIDATES FOR
ALL THE POSITIONS?
>> THE POSITIONS WERE HIRED IN
2023, SO THERE WERE NO COSTS
INCURRED IN 2022.
>> THEY ARE HERE.
>> ON NEXT SLIDE HERE, YOU'LL
SEE.
>> GOT IT. PERFECT. THANK YOU.
>> THEY ARE HERE. THEY ARE
STARTING TO GET BILLED IN 2023.
THERE'S 39, SEVEN, 57, SO FAR
IN THIS QUARTER. TOWARDS THOSE
POSITIONS. THEY ARE JUST
STARTING TO BUILD NOW. AND SO,
AS WE LOOK AT 2023, STILL NOT
LOT OF SPENDING ON WHAT
MARKETING AND ADVERTISING. THI
IS DUE TO A CHANGE THAT OCCURRE
LAST YEAR. THEY OFFERED AN
EXPLANATION TO THE RIGHT. THEY
EXPLAINED BY STARTING A
CAMPAIGN WITH SOCIAL MEDIA DATA
COLLECTION AND MESSAGE TESTING
IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS
YEAR, THEY WILL BE BETTER ABLE
TO TARGET AUDIENCES LATER THIS
YEAR, SO IT IS NOT GOING TO
COST A LOT SO FAR. THAT'S WHY
THERE'S NOT MUCH SPENDING IN
MARKETING AND ADVERTISING. THEN
THE CITY PLANS TO FOCUS ON
SUCCESSFUL MESSAGES AND INCREAS
SPENDING DOSE INCREASE SPENDIN
SIGNIFICANTLY IN FUTURE
QUARTERS. SO THAT SPENDING IN
THE FUTURE WILL BE ASSOCIATED
WITH THE MARKETING CONTENT AND
ADVERTISING EXPANSION. AS I
NOTED PRIOR, THAT THE LAKE CAME
TO A SWITCH AND METHODOLOGY THA
HAPPENED SOMETIME SINCE THE TIM
THE BILL WAS ADOPTED.
>> AND JUST A REAL QUICK
QUESTION ON THIS ONE, BEFORE I
MOVE OVER TO YOU. THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE CAME AND PRESENTED I
THINK BACK IN MARCH ON WHAT
THEIR RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
SPENDING PLAN ONCE. DOES THIS
NEW PLAN DIFFER FROM WHAT WE
WERE TOLD THEY WERE GOING TO BE
DOING IN MARCH, OR IS IT JUST
TAKING LONGER?
>> THIS NEW PLAN IS THE SAME
THING AS WHAT THEY TOLD YOU IN
MARCH. THE IDEA, WHAT THEY TOL
YOU IN MARCH WAS THAT THEY WERE
DOING SOME TESTING ON THE
INTERNET OF THEIR ADS. AND THAT
THEY WOULD, ONCE THEY IDENTIFIE
SOME SUCCESSFUL MESSAGING AND
IDENTIFIED A PATH FORWARD, THE
WOULD GO FOR FULL-BLOWN
SPENDING LATER IN THE YEAR. IT
JUST HAD NOT BECOME EVIDENT THA
THE INTERNET MESSAGING THAT
THEY WERE DOING IN THE FIRST
QUARTER WAS NOT COSTING A LOT .
THAT IS EVIDENT IN THIS TABLE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, IT
WAS NOT COSTING A LOT?
>> YEAH. APPARENTLY, THE
TESTING THAT THEY HAD BEEN DOIN
ON INTERNET MESSAGING HAS NOT
BEEN COSTING A LOT . IF IT HAS,
IT IS NOT REFLECTED IN THE
NUMBERS THAT THEY HAVE
PROVIDED, AND WHAT I HAVE BEEN
TOLD IS THAT THIS DOES CAPTURE
ALL OF THEIR EXPENDITURES.
APPARENTLY, THE SPENDING HAS NO
BEEN COSTING A LOT. THE
EXPENDITURES FOR THE RECRUITMEN
AND ATTENTION EXPENDITURES ARE
GOING TO COME AT THE END, WHEN
THEY ACTUALLY DO THE
ADVERTISEMENT. THEY WILL PUT IT
OUT IN THE FIELDS.
>> THE PRESENTATION WAS THAT
THERE WERE THREE PHASES. THERE
WAS THE MARKETING PHASE THAT WA
INTENDED TO GO GENERALLY
THROUGH MARCH AND THE SEARCH
MARKETING REFERRED TO INTERNET
ADS THAT THEY WERE USING AGAIN,
TO TEST THE SUCCESS OR
SHORTCOMINGS OF PARTICULAR
METHODS. THEY WERE PLANNING TO
MOVE INTO PHASE TWO, THE
TARGETED MARKETING THROUGH APRI
AND JULY, AND THEN MOVING INTO
PHASE THREE, THE LAUNCHING OF
THE CAMPAIGN IN AUGUST. SO
BEFORE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S
QUESTION, ARE WE STILL ON TARGE
FOR THAT? ARE WE IN PHASE TWO
AT THIS POINT?
>> I'M NOT GOING TO GO ANY
FURTHER INTO EXPLAINING THE
EXECUTIVES PLAN. I'M GOING TO
GO AHEAD AND DEFER TO THEM TO
ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
>> FAIR ENOUGH. I APPRECIATE
YOUR EFFORTS TO INCLUDE THEM I
THIS CONVERSATION. COUNCILMEMBE
NELSON.
>> I'M GLAD YOU SYMPATHIZE,
GREG, AND I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT
THERE IS NOBODY HERE FROM THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE TO ANSWER THESE
KINDS OF QUESTIONS, BUT, IT
COMES DOWN TO ME THAT ALL OF OU
PLANS FOR DOWNTOWN RECOVERY AND
ADDRESSING CRIME AGAINST SMALL
BUSINESSES, ALL OF THIS DEPENDS
ON HAVING AN ADEQUATELY STAFFED
POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE PASSED
THE ORDINANCE THAT LIFTED THE
BUDGET PROVISO TO ALLOW FOR
INCENTIVES LAST AUGUST, AND IT
IS REALLY DISTRESSING TO SEE S
LITTLE MONEY GO OUT THE DOOR
BECAUSE THE ACTUAL MONEY THAT
WE ARE PROVIDING FOR BONUSES
DEPENDS ON PEOPLE KNOWING THAT
SEATTLE IS NOW PROVIDING
BONUSES, AND THAT IS WHAT I AM
-- THAT IS WHAT I KEEP GETTING
IMPATIENT ABOUT BECAUSE THERE I
A MARKETING PLAN WHICH I
UNDERSTAND IS A POSITIVE EFFORT
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MUCH MORE
SIMPLY, GETTING THE WORD OUT
THROUGH TRADITIONAL AND
NONTRADITIONAL AVENUES,
NEWSPAPER, CLASSIFIEDS,
WHATEVER. WE HAVE TO GET PEOPLE
TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOW I
COMPETITION, AND WE ARE
COMPETING AGAINST OUR
NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS BY
OFFERING THESE BONUSES, AND SO
FOR THE JUNE PRESENTATION, I
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WHAT IS
CURRENTLY BEING DONE BESIDES
THE SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISEMENT
THAT IS MENTIONED IN THE MEMO
HERE IN THAT WE HEARD ABOUT LAS
TIME ON INSTAGRAM, ET CETERA,
HOW ARE WE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW
THAT SEATTLE IS OFFERING THESE
BONUSES THAT IS SEPARATE FROM
THE LARGER MARKETING PLAN THAT
TALKS ABOUT WHY SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS A GOOD PLACE TO
WORK, AS I UNDERSTAND THAT BEIN
THE GOAL OF THE MARKETING PLAN.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, IF WE GET MORE
OFFICERS, THEN THE OVERTIME
NUMBERS WILL LOOK BETTER, AND
THE NEGATIVE TWO OFFICERS THAT
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON
IDENTIFIED AT THE BEGINNING OF
THIS PRESENTATION , WILL START
LOOKING UP. SO JUST REGISTERING
MY -- THE SENSE OF URGENCY I
FEEL TO REALLY USE THE RESOURCE
THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED TO FILL
THESE POSITIONS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON. I, TOO, AM CONCERNED
THAT RESOURCES ALLOCATED BOTH
FOR 2022, AS WELL AS RESOURCES
ALLOCATED FOR 2023, TO SUPPORT
OUR NOT YET USED , I APPRECIAT
THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS
SEEKING TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT
IS STRIVEN BY BEST PRACTICES .
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT NEED
ASSOCIATED WITH HIRING
ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL FUNDED
HIRING PLAN, AND I JUST WANT T
MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE
BEING A RESPONSIBLE STEWARD OF
THE PUBLIC DOLLARS AND MAKING
EVIDENCE-BASED MARKETING
DECISIONS, THAT WE ARE NOT
MAKING THE PERFECT THE ENEMY OF
THE GOOD. SO APPRECIATE THIS
LINE OF QUESTIONING, AND I'M
LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARNING MOR
ABOUT THE PLAN. IN JUNE.
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR HERBOLD. I
WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS THAT
YOU MADE AS ARCHER OF PUBLIC
SAFETY, AND ALSO, WHAT ARE
CITYWIDE IS A MEMBER NELSON WA
SAYING. SO MUCH IS DEPENDENT
UPON HAVING ADEQUATE STAFFING
AND WE ARE PUTTING SO MUCH HOP
IN THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTIO
SPENDING. TO SEE IF I'M
CALCULATING THE MOUTH MATH
CORRECTLY, THIS TABLE IS SHOWIN
US JUST THE FIRST QUARTER ,
2023, 25% OF THE YEAR, ALREADY,
BUT WE ARE SHOWING ONLY 6% OF
THE SPENDING OF THE 183,000.
ONLY 6% OF THE SPENDING. THE
PREVIOUS SLIDE, WHICH SHOWED TH
2022 SPENDING, HOW DO THOSE TWO
GO TOGETHER? IS THAT CARRIED
FORWARD OR, HOW IS THAT SHOWN?
>> ACTUALLY, NO. WHAT IS NOT
SPENT IN 2022 REVERTS BACK TO
THE GENERAL FUND, AND THEN, THE
3.6 MILLION THAT GOT
APPROPRIATED TO SPD, ST HR, FOR
2023 COVERS THE RECRUITMENT AN
RETENTION IN 2023. IT IS NOT
COMPOUNDING.
>> SO THAT IS MONEY THAT SPD
WAS PROVIDED FOR THAT PURPOSE
THAT JUST WENT BACK TO THE
GENERAL FUND AFTER 2022?
>> YEAH. THAT IS CORRECT. IN
2022, THERE WAS 1.8 MILLION
THAT WAS PROVIDED AND THEN THE
REMAINING BALANCE WENT BACK TO
THE GENERAL FUND AT THE END OF
THE YEAR. NOW, OF COURSE, THAT
BOUNCE THAT WENT BACK TO THE
GENERAL FUND, IT WENT BACK TO
GENERAL FUND AND THEN
APPROPRIATED MONEY FOR THIS
YEAR'S BALANCE, BUT IT IS NOT
IN ANY WAY THAT THE NUMBERS ARE
ADDING TOGETHER. YOU DON'T HAVE
THE 1.4+ THE 3.8 HERE.
>> THANK YOU. I KNOW WE ARE --
I'M NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE
AGAIN. WE ARE IN CAMPAIGN
SEASON. PEOPLE ARE OBVIOUSLY -
KNOW HOW TO MARKET THEMSELVES
AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT
THERE QUICKLY. I'M HOPING THERE
IS THAT SAME LEVEL OF CREATIVE
URGENCY TO GET THIS MONEY OUT
THE DOOR AND INVESTED WISELY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND JUST THINKING ABOUT ALL
THE TIME THAT WE SPENT IN 2022
ON THIS LEGISLATION TO GET THES
DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR, THE TIME
WE SPENT HERE IN COUNCIL. THAT'
UNFORTUNATE.
>> SO, MOVING ON, ANY
ADDITIONAL --
>> YEAH.
>> I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WER
TALKING TO ME.
>> I WAS THINKING OF CLOSING.
I'M VERY AWARE THAT WE ARE
ADDING THIS EXTRA TIME TO THIS
MEETING. WE ONLY HAVE THREE OF
US HERE RIGHT NOW. IF WE LOSE
ANYBODY, WE WON'T HAVE QUORUM.
SO KEY TAKEAWAYS.
>> SO THE MOST SIGNIFICANT TAK
AWAY IS THAT STAFFING CHALLENGE
ARE CHANGING. THE LAST SEVERAL
MONTHS, THE CHALLENGE HAS
SHIFTED FROM RETAINING EXISTING
OFFICERS TO ATTRACTING NEW
OFFICERS. SEPARATIONS SEEMED T
BE STABILIZING, BUT RECRUITING
IS STILL LACKING BEHIND SPD
GOALS. HOPEFULLY THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE IS ABLE TO LAUNCH AN
ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN THAT CAN
HELP WITH RECRUITMENT THIS YEAR
THE SECOND SIGNAL AND TAKE AWAY
IS THAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEE
SALARY SAVINGS AND OVERTIME IS
CHANGING. IN THE PAST FEW YEARS
THERE HAVE BEEN MORE THAN ENOUG
SALARY SAVINGS TO COVER
UNBUDGETED OVERTIME
EXPENDITURES. WE ARE NOT SURE
THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE
CASE THIS YEAR. I THINK IT IS
MORE LIKELY THAT UNBUDGETED
OVERTIME SPENDING WILL BE IN
EXCESS OF SALARY SAVINGS. OR AT
LEAST THESE TWO VARIABLES WILL
BE MORE THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN
THE PAST. THAT WILL BE THE END
OF MY PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND SO, GREG, AND DIRECTOR
SOCHI, I THINK WE WILL WORK
TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY SOME KEY
QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILMEMBERS
HAVE ABOUT THE RECRUITMENT PLA
, IN ADVANCE OF THE JUNE
PRESENTATION, SO, PLEASE, IF
TOO MUCH TIME GOES BY, AND WE
HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDED THE
QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE ANSWERED, PLEASE BE IN
TOUCH WITH EACH OF OUR OFFICES,
AND I DO RECOGNIZE THAT SHE HA
BEEN IN THE WAITING ROOM. SO
SHE IS TECHNICALLY HERE. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL
THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS
ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT PUBLIC
SAFETY AND HUMAN SERVICES MIDI
IS SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, JUNE
13th, 2023. IF ANYBODY
ANTICIPATES BEING ABSENT FROM
THAT MEETING, PLEASE DO LET US
KNOW. AND THE TIME IS 12:36
P.M. THANKS FOR STICKING WITH
US. WE ARE ADJOURNED.