>> LET'S CALL THIS MEETING TO
ORDER AND PLEASE CALL ROLL.
>> [ ROLL CALL ]
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. TODAY OU
AND THE FIRST ITEM TODAY WILL
BE THE EXECUTIVE TEAM ON THE
DUAL DISPATCH. THE ALTERNATE
911 RESPONSE THAT WE ALL HAVE
BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME
TIME. I AM EXCITED TO HEAR THA
UPDATE. SECONDLY, WE WILL BE
HERE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE
VOTE ON COUNTABLE 1205 WHICH I
AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO
ORDNANCE STANDARDS AND
ESTABLISHING LABOR PROTECTIONS
FOR AT PACE WORKERS IN SEATTLE
WILL ONLY BE HEARING AND VOTING
ON AMENDMENTS TODAY. WE HAVE
QUITE A FEW OF THEM TO GET
THROUGH. LASTLY, WE WOULD
BRIEFING ON AGE FRIENDLY
SEATTLE. WE WILL NOW APPROVE
OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY'S COMMITTE
MEETING. IF THERE IS NO
OBJECTION, TODAY'S COMMITTEE
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. SEEING
AND HEARING NO OBJECTION,
TODAY'S AGENDA IS ADOPT GOOD.
AT THIS TIME, WE MOVE THE PUBLI
COMMENT. I WILL MODERATE THE
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IN THE
FOLLOWING MANNER. SO FAR, WE
HAVE NINE PEOPLE SIGNED UP IN
PERSON TO SPEAK. AND 24 PEOPL
SIGNED UP ONLINE. IN ORDER
ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE FOLKS
SIGNED UP, IF THERE ARE NO
OBJECTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO
EXPAND OUR 20 MINUTE COMMENT
PERIOD TO 35 MINUTES. AND IN
DOING SO, WE WILL EXPAND THE
AMOUNT OF TIME ON THE AGENDA
FROM 20 MINUTES TO 35 MINUTES
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE
ANY OBJECTION? SEEING AND
HEARING NO OBJECTION, PUBLIC
COMMENT IS EXPANDED TO 35
MINUTES FROM 20 MINUTES. AND
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN ONE
MINUTE TO SPEAK . SO WE CAN
ACCOMMODATE AS MANY FOLKS AS AR
SIGNED UP. I WILL ALTERNATE
BETWEEN VIRTUAL AND IN PERSON
PUBLIC COMMENTERS. AND WILL
CALL IN EACH SPEAKER BY NAME AN
IN THE ORDER WITH WHICH THEY'RE
REGISTERED ON THE WEBSITE AND
THE IN PERSON SIGN INFORM. IF
YOU HAVE NOT REGISTERED TO SPEA
,YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THE END OF
THE PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION. WHA
THE COLOR SPEAKER'S NAME, IF
YOU'RE USING THE VIRTUAL OPTION
IF YOU HEAR A PROMPT, WE NEED
YOU TO PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO
UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ASK THAT
EVERYONE BEGIN SPEAKING BY
STATING THEIR NAME AND THE ITE
WHICH YOU ARE ADDRESSING ON THE
AGENDA. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A
TIME WHEN 10 SECONDS LEFT IN TH
ALLOTTED TIME. ONCE THE SPEAKE
HERE'S THE CHIME, WE ASK THAT
YOU PLEASE BEGIN TO WRAP UP YOU
COMMENTS. IF SPEAKERS DO NOT IN
THE COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE
ALLOTTED TIME PROVIDED, THE
SPEAKERS MICROPHONE WILL BE
MUTED AUTOMATICALLY AFTER 10
SECONDS. TO ALLOW US TO HEAR
FROM THE NEXT SPEAKER. ONCE YOU
HAVE COMPLETED YOUR PUBLIC
COMMENT, PLEASE DISCONNECT FROM
THE LINE. IF YOU PLAN TO
CONTINUE FOLLOWING THIS MEETING
WE ASK THAT YOU DO SO VIA THE
SEATTLE CHANNEL OVER THE
LISTENING OPTIONS ON THE AGENDA
AGAIN WE GOT 32 OR 33 SIGNED UP
. STARTING WITH THE VIRTUAL
PUBLIC COMMENT SIGN-UP SHEET. W
WILL START WITH JENNA WHITE.
AND SHE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
GAIL.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS JENNA
WHITE. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT
AND GENERAL MANAGER OF TRUST,
SAFETY AND OPERATIONS AT A PROU
SEATTLE-BASED COMPANY AND I
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TODA
TO SHARE COMMENT ABOUT THIS
RESOLUTION WHICH WE BELIEVE WIL
CREATE UNJUSTIFIED RISKS FOR
COMMUNITY, PAST AND PUBLIC
SAFETY. WE PROVIDE 24 SEVEN
SUPPORT FOR ALL OF THE USERS.
PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE CARE, DO SO
UNMONITORED. OFTEN WITHIN THE
HOME AND CAN HAVE CUSTODY OF TH
PETS FOR DAYS OR WEEKS AT A
TIME. THEY ALSO HAVE A DIRECT
ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH PET
PARENTS THAT EXTENDS BEYOND
THIS. ROVER TAKE SERIOUSLY OUR
ROLE IN PROTECTING OUR USERS AN
WE HAVE COMPETENCE OF MEASURES
IN PLACE TO PROMOTE SAFETY. THI
INCLUDES DEACTIVATING ACCOUNTS
OF PET SITTERS WHEN WE BELIEVE
THE CREATE RISK. IT'S NOT AN
ALGORITHM. EVERY INVESTIGATION
IS 100% HUMAN LEAD AND INCLUDES
RELEVANT DOCUMENTATION SUCH AS
VETERINARY RECORDS. GIVEN THIS
RISK, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT
THEN I WILL PLATFORMS LIKE US T
CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE SAFETY
AND REPUTATION OF THEIR
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER IS HOWARD GILL.
>> TWO WEEKS AGO, A GROUP AT TH
PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING WAS
COMMENTING IN PERSON TO PROVIDE
IRREFUTABLE DOCUMENTATION OF
THE OUTRAGEOUS BEHAVIOR BY THE
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSIONER
WEEK PRIOR. IN MAY AND JUNE,
COMMISSIONERS HAD ENGAGED IN
SUPPRESSING THEIR RIGHTS AND
THREATENING POLICE VIOLENCE.
KNOWING THAT ONE MEMBER OF OUR
GROUP ALREADY EXPERIENCED THE
WORST POLICE VIOLENCE. THE MART
OF A FAMILY MEMBER BY THE SPD.
BUT YET NO COUNCIL MEMBER HAS
ASKED ANY QUESTIONS OR RAISED
ANY MATTERS AT COUNCIL MEETINGS
IN THE COMING WEEKS THEY HAVE
COMPLETED COMPLETE UNACCOUNTABL
AND THEY ARE REWRITING THE CITY
RULES TO PAY THE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS AND THE TOTAL OF $54,00
PER YEAR TO CONTINUE THIS
ABUSIVE AND UNACCOUNTABLE
BEHAVIOR. YOU MUST DEMAND AN
INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF THE CBC.
ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE MAKING ANY CHANGES TO
LEGISLATION OR PROVIDING ANY
INCREASED BEHAVIOR BY THE
COMMUNITY. THERE MUST BE AN
INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF THE CPC.
THANK YOU.
>> NOW FOR NEXT SPEAKER. I
THINK YOU NEED TO HIT STAR SIX
I SEE THAT YOU ARE STILL ON
MUTE. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, I
NEED YOU TO HIT STAR 6 SO THAT
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
>> PERFECT.
>> GOOD AND SORRY I THINK IT .
FIRST TIME DOING THIS. SORRY. I
LIVE IN DISTRICT 7. AND I AM A
PET SERVICE CENTER ON THE ROVER
AND I WANTED TO SHARE
INFORMATION. WORKED HARD TO
DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS WITH MY
CLIENTS TO ALLOW ME INTO THEIR
HOMES TO CARE FOR THEIR PRESENT
PETS WHILE THEY ARE AWAY AND
FOR SOME THAT CREATES UNEASINES
BUT THIS IS WHAT ROVER HAS
CREATED SAFETY WITH BACKGROUND
CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THE DO NOT
HAVE RECORDS OF ANIMAL ABUSE AN
TAKING CHANCES ON NEW PET
SITTERS LIKE ME. I'M ALARMED
WITH SOME OF THE PROACTIVE STEP
THAT ROVER TAKE SUCH AS
BACKGROUND CHECKS TO PROVIDE
IMPORTANT ASSURANCES FOR PET
PARENTS AND IT ALSO SOUNDS
IRRESPONSIBLE FOR ROVER TO
HANDOVER GENERAL RECORDS. EVEN
THOUGH IT IS DEACTIVATED FOR TH
MISCONDUCT. THIS WILL CREATE AN
UNNECESSARY RISK OF PHYSICAL OR
ONLINE CONFRONTATION WILL ALSO
MAKING USERS HESITANT FOR SAFET
CONCERNS. THIS HURTS PETSITTERS
BY UNDERMINING THE PROVIDER
NEEDS WHO WORK HARD TO CREATE
VARIANCES FOR CLIENT AND WE ASK
YOU TO PLEASE SHOW US THE
PETSITTERS AND THE CLIENTS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE COURTNEY
GILLESPIE.
>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I'M
THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT
AFFAIRS AND I'M HERE TO SHARE
OUR PERSPECTIVE ON THE
DEACTIVATION ORDINANCE. BEFORE
WE BEGIN, I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS
TODAY. THESE IS THE MARKETPLACE
TO KEEP SELF-EMPLOYED
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS TO
OFFER SERVICES TO OUR WEBSITE.
THE SERVICES INCLUDE FURNITURE
AND HOME ORGANIZATION AND
YARDWORK OF ACTIVATIONS ARE
RARE, TASK RABBIT USERS, PERHAP%
UNIQUELY, VALUE THE ABILITY TO
REMOVE THE USER FROM THE
PLATFORM IN THE INTEREST OF
USER SAFETY. THE AVERAGE
DURATION OF THE TASK IS TWO
HOURS AND CAN REACH UP TO SIX
HOURS. BETWEEN THE CLIENT AND
THE TASK CONTRACTING FOR
SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER OF TIME
THEN FOR EXAMPLE A FOOD DELIVER
DRIVER. FURTHER, TASKERS AND
USERS COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE
APP AND THAT INCREASES ONLINE
HARASSMENT. WE ARE CONCERNED
THAT THIS CONCERNS THAT WE
DON'T BELIEVE WE BELONG IN THIS
BILL.
>> THANK YOU AND OUR NEXT
SPEAKER IS SAM BARTLETT.
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS SAM
BARTLETT AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT
7. I USE ROVER TO FIND PET
SITTERS FOR MY THREE PETS WHEN
TRAVEL FOR WORK OR TRANSFER
TRAVELING. I AM ESPECIALLY
ALARMED ABOUT THIS BILL BECAUSE
I THINK IT PUTS LIMITS ON THE
USE OF BACKGROUND CHECKS, WHICH
ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME WHEN
I'M TRYING TO FOR FIND PET
SITTERS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN I
NEED THEM ON SHORT-TERM NOTICE.
FOR PET OWNERS LIKE ME, WE LIKE
OUR PETS TO STAY IN OUR HOMES
AND THAT MEANS A STRANGERS
COMING IN THE HOUSE AND STAYING
WITH THEM FOR EXTENDED PERIODS
OF TIME AND UP TO TWO WEEKS,
PERSONALLY. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
ME THAT ROVER HAS THE ABILITY T
LEVERAGE COMPREHENSIVE
BACKGROUND CHECKS AND MAKE SURE
THE PEOPLE THAT WE HIRE THROUGH
THE APP DID NOT HAVE ANY
RELEVANT CRIMINAL HISTORY LIKE
ANIMAL ABUSE. SETTING LIMITS ON
THESE PLATFORMS CAN ONLY LEAD T
INCREASED RISK FOR PET OWNERS,
THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR PETS.
REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT ADDITIONAL DANGER
FROM ORDINANCES LIKE THIS.
PLEASE CONSIDER EXCLUDING PETS
PLATFORMS FROM YOUR BILL.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. HERE'S OU
NEXT SPEAKER.
>> GOOD MORNING , MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. I AM ON THE
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS TEAM FOR
DOORDASH. WE TAKE DEACTIVATION
SEARCY AND WORK TO ENSURE
ANYONE THAT IS DEACTIVATED KEEP
THE FULL ACTIVATION POLICY ON
OUR WEBSITE. ALTHOUGH
WELL-INTENTIONED, WE HOPE THIS
BROAD BILL DOES NOT LIMIT OUR
ABILITY TO ACT QUICKLY AND WERE
INSTANCES OF HARMFUL BEHAVIORS
WERE IMMEDIATE DEACTIVATION IS
IMPORTANT OR NECESSAR TO
PROTECT MERCHANTS AND CUSTOMERS
WE APPRECIATE THE WORK ON THE
BILL THIS FOR REQUEST INCREASE
CHANGES TO KEEP CHANGES WERE
WARRANTED. WE ALSO HAVE CONCERN
ABOUT THE DISCLOSURE
REQUIREMENTS WHICH MANDATE ALL
CONSUMERS AND OTHER WORKERS BE
TURNED OVER TO A DEACTIVATED
WORKER. EVEN IF REDACTED, THIS
IS ENOUGH TO SPUR UNSAFE
ESCALATIONS OR RETALIATION.
FURTHER, A PARTY KNOWING THAT
THEIR REPORT WILL LIKELY BE
SHARED WITH THE SUBJECT WILL
LIKELY CREATE A CHILLING EFFECT
IN INSTANCES OF MISCONDUCT TO B
UNREPORTED. WE HOPE FOR YOUR
HELP IN SHAPING THESE PLATFORMS
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR
NEXT SPEAKER IS TYSON. GARY
TYSON. PLEASE HIT STAR 6 SO
THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU. PERFECT.
>> I'M WITH THE PRESIDENT OF
THE GENERAL BAPTIST CONVENTION
NORTHWEST. AND THE BAPTIST
CHURCH SEATTLE. I AM WORKING
WITH LOCAL FOOD BANKS AND
COMMUNITY PROGRAMS THAT SERVE
THE MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS.
THERE ARE FEW THINGS MORE
IMPORTANT TO ME, MY FAMILY, MY
COMMUNITY, THEN SAFETY. THE
LEGISLATION BEFORE YOU, WHILE
WELL-INTENTIONED, IT DOES NOT
ALLOW FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION IN
SOME INSTANCES OF AGGRESSIVE
BEHAVIOR AND COULD LEAD TO
RETALIATION BY ONE BAD ACTOR.
THIS PROBLEM IS RARE BUT IT MUS
BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY WHEN A
DELIVERY WORKER DEMONSTRATES A
UNSAFE OR THREATENING BEHAVIOR.
INCLUDING USING RACIALLY CHARGE
AND AGGRESSIVE LANGUAGE, THE
PUBLIC DESERVES THE PEACE OF
MIND KNOWING THAT WILL BE
REMOVED FROM THE PLATFORM
IMMEDIATELY. THIS PROPOSAL WILL
PUT A TWO WEEK DELAY ON THE
ACTION AND SOME INSTANCES. WER
DEACTIVATION TO OCCUR, THEY
WOULD SHARE INFORMATION OF THE
SPECIFIC COMPLAINTS AND THE
WORKER COULD RESULT IN
RETALIATION. PLEASE SET ASIDE
THIS LEGISLATION AND CONTINUE T
WORK A POLICY THAT PUTS PUBLIC
SAFETY FIRST. I BEG YOU, PLEASE
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER IS ASHLEY SUTTON. AFTE
ASHLEY WE WILL HEAR FROM REBECC
SPRING.
>> FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS
ASHLEY SUTTON AND I'M EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR FOR WASHINGTON
NORTHWEST. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TODAY. I AM
TESTIFYING IN OPPOSITION TO CB
120580. CREATE SIGNIFICANT
PRIVACY CONCERNS FOR BUSINESSES
AND CUSTOMERS AND SHOULD NOT
ADVANCE IN THE CURRENT FORM.
THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC, THESE
WORKERS PLAYED A CRUCIAL ROLE
SUPPORTING SEVERAL BUSINESSES B
PROVIDING ESSENTIAL SERVICES AN
HELPING TO KEEP CONSUMERS SAFE.
THESE WORKERS ARE RARELY
DEACTIVATED. BUT WHEN THEY ARE,
BUSINESSES MUST RETAIN THE
ABILITY TO ACT QUICKLY TO
ADDRESS SAFETY CONCERNS. WE
BELIEVE THIS PROPOSAL
JEOPARDIZES THE SAFETY OF
BUSINESSES AND CONSUMERS ACROSS
THE CITY WHILE CREATING A
SEPARATE SET OF STANDARDS FOR
DIG WORKERS COMPARED TO
SEATTLE'S EMPLOYEES. WE STRONGL
ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO
IMPLEMENT POLICIES THAT ALIGNS
WITH SEATTLE'S VALUES AND EQUIT
THAT PRIORITIZES THE SAFETY OF
CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES. WE
URGE YOU TO REJECT THIS
PROPOSAL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER IS REBECCA SPRING HERE.
AFTER REBECCA, WE WILL MOVE OVE
TO IN PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT HER
WITH A FEW SPEAKERS. REBECCA
QUICKS? WE NEED YOU TO HIT
START 6.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME I
REBECCA SPRINGER AND I AM A
DIRECTOR AT TASK RABBIT. A FEW
MINUTES AGO WE ARE TWO-SIDED
MARKETPLACE THAT CONNECTS PEOPL
WHO NEED HELP WITH SMALL TASKS
AROUND THE HOME TO SELF-EMPLOYE
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. MOST
TASKS FACILITATED DURING THE
PLATFORM OCCUR DURING
RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND LAST FOR
AN AVERAGE OF TWO HOURS. THE
EXTENDED DURATION INCREASES THE
RISK OF POTENTIAL CONFLICT AND
HARASSMENT BETWEEN USERS AND
MOST USERS ARE PROVIDED IN A
HOME AMONG PERSONAL BELONGINGS.
THE RISK OF PERSONAL THEFT IS
MORE THAN SAY FOR EXAMPLE FOOD
DELIVERY DROP OFF. TRUST AND
SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT. TASK
RABBIT RARELY REMOVES USERS FRO
THE PLATFORM AND IT DOES SO ONL
IN THE CASE OF A VIOLATION OF
OUR TERMS OF SERVICE. OUR
SUPPORT TEAM HAS INVESTIGATED
EVERY POTENTIAL VIOLATION AND
MAKES DECISIONS REGARDING
DEACTIVATION. USERS ARE ABLE TO
PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THE
PROCESS AND APPEAL THE DECISION
WE SUPPORT THE VALUE AND INTEN
OF THE DEACTIVATION ORDINANCE.
HOWEVER, WE ARE CONCERNED THAT
SEVERAL OF THE REQUIREMENTS POS
A SAFETY RISK FOR OUR CLIENTS
AND TASKERS AND WE HOPE THEY
CONSIDER REMOVING NETWORK
COMPANIES LIKE OURS FROM THIS
BILL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. NOW MOVING OVER
TO HEAR SOME FOLKS FROM THE IN
PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT. FIRST WE
WILL HEAR FROM THE FOLLOWING
SPEAKERS. AND WE WILL HAVE AN
INTERPRETER WITH MARIA. AND
THIS IS HANNAH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE ARE TAKING OUT SUGGESTIN
UNBIASED EFFECTS AND LISTING
SPECIFIC SETS WHILE
DEACTIVATION EXISTS OF THESE
PROTECTIONS ARE NECESSARY TO
PROTECT OUR ECONOMY. AND I HAV
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH HOW
SHADY THESE COMPANIES CAN BE.
LAST WEEK, DOORDASH SENT US AN
EMAIL TELLING IS THE COMPLETION
RATE GOES FROM 80% TO 90%. ALL
TRANSLATIONS ARE HELD AGAINST
US. THIS CAN AFFECT THEIR SMALL
BUSINESSES AND HER ABILITY TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE ECONOMY. GIG
WORKERS ARE NOT EMPLOYEES.
CONTINUE THE SHORT AND LONG-TER
BENEFITS WE RECEIVE TO ALLOW
THESE AMENDMENTS TO NOT GO
THROUGH AND THEY WILL BENEFIT
WORKERS AND EVERYONE IN SEATTLE
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER'S. WE WILL ALLOW AN
EXTRA MINUTE OF TIME TO
ACCOMMODATE INTERPRETATION
SERVICES.
>> [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]
>> Translator: THANK YOU FOR
THIS VALUABLE TIME. READING NEW
AMENDMENTS IN RECENT WEEKS HAS
MADE ME SAD A CONCERN THAT WE
HAVE NOT BEEN CLEAR AND
CONVINCING ENOUGH ABOUT OUR
WORK, HOW IT IS CARRIED OUT, AN
THE PROBLEMS WE FACE EVERY DAY.
WE NEED TO INCLUDE ALL GIG
WORKERS IN HIS PROTECTIONS AS W
ARE ALL PENALIZED BY THE SAME
WAY. WE NEED CRIMINAL VIOLATION
INCLUDED AND NOT NONCRIMINAL
BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME TO GE
DEACTIVATED FOR SPEEDING TICKET
AS IT IS FOR HITTING A CUSTOMER
DAMAGING CUSTOMER PROPERTY. WHA
WILL HAPPEN IF I GET DEACTIVATE
FOR TICKET? IN MY FAMILY NOT TH
ONLY PERSON WHO USES MY CAR. IF
SOMEONE ELSE RECEIVES A TICKET
AND THE CAR IS IN MY NAME, WITH
US ALSO COUNT FOR MY
DEACTIVATION? ALSO, AS GIG
WORKERS, WE NEED SPECIFIC
INFORMATION TO KNOW WHICH GIG I
REFERENCED FROM THE
DEACTIVATION. WHEN I WAS
DEACTIVATED FROM DOORDASH, I DI
NOT RECEIVE THE DETAILS TO KNOW
WHAT HAPPENED OR HOW TO RESOLVE
THE SITUATION. IF THIS IS A
CHALLENGE PROCESS, WE NEED THES
DETAILS. WE NEED IS NEW
AMENDMENTS TO BE CLEARER AND NO
TO HURT THE WORKERS. THANK YOU
FOR VOTING TO ADVANCE THESE
MUCH-NEEDED PROTECTIONS.
>> THANK YOU AND NOW FOR OUR
NEXT SPEAKER.
>> HELLO. I AM A VOLUNTEER FOR
WORKING WASHINGTON. WORKING
WASHINGTON SPOKE TO GIG WORKERS
FROM ALL INDUSTRIES TO ASCERTAI
THEIR NEEDS. THEY THEN PROPOSE
POLICIES THAT PROMOTE GIG
WORKERS FROM BEING EXPLOITED.
THEY WERE THEN DISCUSSED AND
DEBATED AT STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS
ALL STAKEHOLDERS NEGOTIATED FO
THEIR ORGANIZATIONS AND
COMPROMISED AGREEMENTS REMAIN.
MOST OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES
WORKED IN GOOD FAITH. THAT IS
WHY I AM SO DISAPPOINTED THAT
THIS COUNSELING HAS ALLOWED SOM
STAKEHOLDERS TO SIDESTEP THE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AND INSTEAD
GOING STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL
MEMBERS TO OFFER ITEMS THAT HAV
ALREADY BEEN DEBATED AND AGREED
UPON. THE AMENDMENTS AMEND THE
ORDINANCE AND UNDOING
HARD-FOUGHT COMPROMISES AND
MAKING A MOCKERY OF THE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. PLEASE
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US IN GOO
FAITH AND DID NOT ALLOW
BACKDOOR AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS KIMBERLY BOTH.
>> KIMBERLY WOLF, GIG WORKER.
LET ME BE CLEAR THAT I DO NOT
SUPPORT ANY OF THESE AMENDMENTS
BUT THERE ARE COUPLE THAT I
COULD LIVE WITH. WILL SPEAK TO
FEW WELL-MEANING BUT THE REST
ARE NOT WORTH TO REBUT. THE
ATTEMPT TO GET THE SPIRIT OF TH
LEGISLATION OR CONTRADICT
THEMSELVES OTHER KIND OF
POLITICAL US WILL STRONGLY
INFLUENCED BY EXPLOITERS OF
LABOR. THE AMENDMENTS WERE
DISCUSSING OUR NOT NEEDED BUT
NO HARM IS FINE. 2 C IS NOT
NEEDED. THIS IS WRITTEN IS FAIR
AND ROBUST AND DEFINING IS
SUBSEQUENTLY DEALING WITH
EGREGIOUS BEHAVIOR. AND 2A.
OVERALL OKAY BUT THE WORD HAVE
HARASSMENT SHOULD BE CHANGED TO
INTENTIONAL HARASSMENT SO AS NO
TO UNDULY DEACTIVATE A WORKER
FOR ITS NOTHING MORE THAN A
COMMUNICATION DIFFICULTY OR
UNDERSTANDING, WHICH IS HARDLY
EGREGIOUS. AMENDMENT THREE'S
GOOD INTENTIONS BUT
PROBLEMATIC. I CANNOT SUPPORT I
WITH THE WORDING. IT'S
APPROPRIATE FOR CRIMINAL
VIOLATIONS BUT TALKING ABOUT
NONCRIMINAL AND LISTENING TO
EXTREMELY MINIMUM NUMBER. IF
IT'S JUST A TYPO AND IT IS
CORRECTED FROM NONCRIMINAL TO
CRIMINAL, THEN IT'S OKAY.
OTHERWISE IT COULD POTENTIALLY
HARM AN INNOCENT GIG WORKER. TH
REST OF THESE ARE JUST HOGWASH
AND I URGE YOU TO BE WISE ENOUG
TO VOTE NO NO ON THEM.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW WE
WILL MOVE ON TO LYNN REED. AS
ANOTHER PERSON WHO IS PRESENT I
CHAMBERS TODAY. AND THEN WE WIL
MOVE BACK OVER TO THE ONLINE
PRESENTERS.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNSEL. THANK
YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY. THESE
COUNCIL MEMBERS , LISA HERBOLD
ANDREW LEWIS, THANK YOU FOR
PROTECTING WORKERS RIGHTS. WE
URGE THE ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT
THREE AS IT PROVIDES CLARITY
AROUND DEACTIVATION FOR FAILED
MOTOR VEHICLE RECORD CHECKS AND
WILL ASSURE AT PACE WORKERS HAV
FULL TRANSPARENCY. WHILE HE
WOULD PREFER ALL AT PACE WORKER
TO BE COVERED AS MOST OF THE
AMENDMENTS DO THAT, WE
APPRECIATE THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF
MY MARKETPLACE NETWORK
COMPANIES LIKE ROVER AND TASK
RABBIT. WERE READY TO HELP CRAF
SEPARATE LEGISLATION TO COVER
THESE WORKERS. IF AMENDMENT 3 I
ADOPTED, TRIFOLD WAS TENETS OF
FULL SUPPORT OF THIS
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW
MOVING BACK TO ONLINE TEST OF
FIRES. WE HAVE AMANDA WILLIE.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS AMANDA AND
I LIVE IN WEST SEATTLE. I'M HER
TO TALK ABOUT THE DEACTIVATION
ORDINANCE. USE ROVER FOR MY
DOGS WHENEVER I AM AWAY. AS A
SINGLE WOMAN, SAFETY IS ALWAYS
TOP OF MIND FOR ME. I'VE YOU
ROVER FOR MANY YEARS BECAUSE I
VALUE THE PROACTIVE MEASURES
THEY TAKE TO PROMOTE SAFE
EXPERIENCES AND I THINK THE
COMMITTEE MAY BE FOUND TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THE SECOND AND
THIRD ORDER OF THE SAFETY OF
LOCATION ON PET OWNERS ON OWNER
FOR VERBAL HARASSMENT THIS WOUL
NOT QUALIFY AS AGREED JUST FOR
THE ACCESSING SERVICES FOR TWO
WEEKS AFTER THEY WERE
DEACTIVATED. THIS ALONE SEEMS
OUTRAGEOUS. THIS BILL WAS
CLEARLY NOT DESIGNED FOR
SERVICES LIKE THAT KAREN PUTS
PET OWNERS AT AN INEXCUSABLE
RISK. WE URGE YOU TO REMOVE HIM
PETS PLATFORMS FROM THE BILL.
>> THANK YOU AND OUR NEXT
SPEAKER IS JAKE LANDRY.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS JAKE AND I
HAVE BEEN A GIG WORKER DRIVER
FOR MANY YEARS AND TESTIFYING
FOR THE COUNCIL FOR MANY YEARS
IN SUPPORT OF FAIR SHARE STUFF
WITH THE TEAMSTERS AND I'M DONE
HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
DEACTIVATION LAB. AND JOINING M
OTHER COLLEAGUES TO SAY THAT
THIS BILL IS OVERDUE. WE DO NO
SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENTS WHICH
ARE JUST MEANT TO DELAY AND PLA
TO THE CORPORATIONS REALLY
AGGRESSIVE DEMANDS ON LABOR
STRATEGIES. DON'T TAKE THESE
CLASS WARFARE TACTICS AS THEM
DEMONIZING A FEW BAD EGG WORKER
WITH MORE DRACONIAN ASSESSMENT
AND PLACE. GIG WORKERS BEING
DEACTIVATED UNFAIRLY AND WITHOU
SPEEDY AND JUST RECOURSE EVERY
DAY . I TRY TO HELP THEM GET
BACK ONLINE AND IT'S A HORRIBLE
PROCESS. THIS WILL DEEPEN THE
FRANCHISE OF OUR SOCIETY THAT I
WORKING CLASS ENABLED BY THESE
APPS BACK WITH THE ALGORITHM.
TO FURTHER PROP UP THE
MARKETPLACE UP
>> HERE. AND THESE AMENDMENTS
NEED TO BE EDITED. FORGET
NELSON'S AND PETERSON'S. THOS
ARE ABSOLUTELY CORPORATE TRASH.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS JASON RENICK.
>> INC. YOU FOR TAKING THE TIM
TO HEAR IS THIS MORNING. I LIVE
IN WEST SEATTLE NOT HAVE BEEN A
FULL-TIME INSTA CARD SHOPPER FO
OVER THREE YEARS. I'M HIGHLY
OPPOSED TO THIS 14 DAY PERIOD
AFTER SOMEONE IS DEACTIVATED.
JUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION FO
A MOMENT IF A CUSTOMER IS BUYIN
EXTRA ITEMS FOR THEMSELVES AT
THE CUSTOMER'S EXPENSE. THAT I
SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD BE
DEACTIVATED FOR IMMEDIATELY
BECAUSE IT HARMS ME AS A WORKER
AS IT DETERIORATES CUSTOMER
TRUST . OR IF A SHOPPER FAILS T
RETURN ALCOHOL IN A TIMELY
MANNER , VIOLATING STATE LAW.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO
CONTINUE SHOPPING AND DOING
HARM IN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE
SYSTEM. I AM 100% IN FAVOR OF
A BETTER APPEALS PROCESS IF
SOMEONE IS DEACTIVATED. I DON'T
BELIEVE SOMEONE SHOULD BE
DEACTIVATED FOR SIMPLY
NONCRIMINAL MOVING VIOLATION.
AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU
AGAIN THAT IN WASHINGTON,
EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES THAT AN
EMPLOYER CAN SHOW UP TO WORK
WITH THE CONTRACT FOR EMPLOYMEN
AND BE SENT HOME THAT DAY.
ESCORTED FROM THE BUILDING. WE
HAVE NO AGREEMENT. WE CHOOSE TO
WORK ON THIS APP. WE ARE GIG
WORKERS AND WE ARE NOT EMPLOYEE
OR INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. WE
ARE GIG WORKERS. PLEASE KEEP
THAT IN MIND AND RETHINK THIS
BILL. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS CHARMAINE RODRIGUEZ.
CHARMAINE RODRIGUEZ WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE HOME.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS CHARMAINE
RODRIGUEZ AND I'M SHARING A
COMMENT ON CB 120580. I LIVE IN
NORTH SEATTLE AND I HAVE BEEN
USING ROVER TO OFFER PET CARE
SERVICES SINCE 2018. I FIND THE
RECORD SHARING REQUIREMENT IN
THE BILL TO BE BAFFLING AND
VERY POORLY CNSIDERED.
PROVIDING PET CARE SERVICES
OFTEN ALLOWS SITTERS TO PETS
AND OWNERS SCHEDULES AND
ADDRESSES AND HOW TO GAIN
ENTRANCE INTO THEIR PRIVATE
HOME. IF THESE ACTIVATED
DEACTIVATED SITTERS ARE GIVEN
DETAILED REPORTS OF MISCONDUCT
MADE ABOUT THEM AS THIS BILL
REQUIRES, THE PERSON COULD MOVE
TO CONFRONT THE PERSON WHO
REPORTED THEM. HOW CAN THIS
COMMITTEE JUSTIFY PUTTING PET
OWNERS, THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR
NEIGHBORS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN
THE POSITION. AS THE PET OWNERS
THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF
PROTECTION I WANT, NOR WILL IT
BENEFIT MY BUSINESS. I THINK YO
CONSIDER REMOVING THIS FROM THE
PROPOSAL. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER IS CATHERINE HOME.
>> GOOD MORNING , CHAIR ANDREW
LEWIS AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I AM THE DEPUTY
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR
INSTA CARD. WE ARE HERE TODAY T
REITERATE HER CONCERNS WITH THE
DEACTIVATION PROPOSAL. AND
WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AND MEETING
ON THIS TOPIC, WE CANNOT SUPPOR
THE CURRENT DRAFT. FOR INSTA
CARD, THE SHAVED SAFETY OF THE
SHOPPER AND CUSTOMER AND
RETAILER IS PARAMOUNT. UNDER TH
ORDINANCE, THE SUSPENSIONS AND
ACTIVATIONS ARE ASSUMED TO BE
THE SAME. BUT THEY ARE NOT.
DEACTIVATION'S AND SUSPENSIONS
ARE DIFFERENT ACTIONS SERVING
DIFFERENT PURPOSES. AS SUCH, WE
REQUEST THE DEFINITION THAT
DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN THEM AND
RECOGNIZES THE DIFFERENT ROLES.
MOREOVER, THEY REQUIRE NOTICE
BEFORE DEACTIVATION. IT'S
DANGEROUS FOR FAMILIES ACROSS
THE CITIES. THIS UNNECESSARY AN
LENGTHY NOTICE PERIOD COULD
UNDERMINE OUR ABILITY TO QUICKL
REMOVE BAD ACTORS. WE REMAIN
COMMITTED TO BEING A PARTNER
WITH SEATTLE SHOPPERS AND RETAI
PARTNERS. THANK YOU.
>> NOW AND NEXT SPEAKER IS
SHOWING AS NOT PRESENT. SO WE
WILL MOVE DOWN TO OUR NEXT
ONLINE SPEAKER SHOWING IS
PRESENT. TAMMY IS UP NEXT.
FOLLOWED BY LISA FOSTER. TAMMY
PLEASE.
>> SORRY. I AM HAVING SOME PHON
ISSUES HERE.
>> WE CAN HEAR YOU.
>> OKAY. I AM THE PRESIDENT AND
CEO FOR THE WASHINGTON FOOD
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION . HERE IN
OPPOSITION TO THE DEACTIVATION
BILL. I DID PROVIDE TESTIMONY
LAST WEEK . MAINLY JUST
ADDRESSING YOUR CONCERNS WITH
NOT BEING ABLE TO DEACTIVATE A
WORKER WHO COMES INTO OUR STORE
THAT IS SHOWING SIGNS OF
VIOLENCE AND RISK TO OUR
CUSTOMERS. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE
ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE
ABILITY TO STOP THAT BEFORE IT
OCCURS. I WILL KEEP THIS SHORT
AND JUST ASK THAT IF YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT
TO ME. BUT PLEASE DO NOT
RESTRICT OUR ABILITY TO PROTECT
OUR CUSTOMERS. MANY TIMES THE
DELIVERIES ARE TO VULNERABLE
ADULTS WHO CANNOT MAKE IT TO TH
STORE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
>> THANK YOU IN OUR NEXT SPEAKE
IS LISA FOSTER. FOLLOWED BY
JAMES THOMAS.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS LISA FOSTE
AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT 1. AM A
PET OWNER THAT USES ROVER. I'M
HERE TODAY BECAUSE I'M ALARMED
ABOUT HOW CB 120580 WOULD
IMPACT PET OWNERS IN SEATTLE. A
DRAFTED, I BELIEVE THIS BILL
WOULD UNDERCUT THE ABILITY OF
PLATFORMS TO PROTECT THEIR
USERS. EVEN WHEN MISCONDUCT
OCCURS. IN PARTICULAR, THE
NARROW DEFINITION OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT MEANS THAT ONLY PET
SITTERS WHO HARM THE PHYSICAL
SAFETY OF CUSTOMERS WOULD BE
SUBJECT TO IMMEDIATE
DEACTIVATION. WHAT ABOUT THOSE
WHO PHYSICALLY HARM PETS FOR
THOSE WHOSE ACTIONS CAUSE
EMOTIONAL HARM? SUCH AS TO
AGGRESSIVE OR THREATENING
MESSAGES OR STOCKING I WOULD
IMAGINE THAT IF THE SEATTLE
CITY COUNCIL STAFF MEMBER
REPORTED SUCH BEHAVIOR BY
ANOTHER EMPLOYEE THAT THE CITY
WOULD NOT WAIT 40 DAYS TO TAKE
ACTION. SO WHY WOULD YOU IMPOSE
THESE INADEQUATE PROTECTION FOR
PET OWNERS? ASK THAT YOU PLEASE
PROTECT PET OWNERS FROM THIS
BILL. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER IS JAMES THOMAS. JAMES
WILL BE FOLLOWED BY TALISHA
HAROLD. JAMES, PLEASE HITS THE
SIX. PERFECT.
>> MY NAME IS JAMES THOMAS. I
SUPPORT THE DEACTIVATION
PROTECTIONS FOR GIG WORKERS ON
WILL BREEDS AND DOORDASH. UBER
EATS. AND RATED IN THE TOP 1% O
DRIVERS WORLDWIDE. I WAS THE AC
DEACTIVATED TO ANY
INVESTIGATIONS. THE SAME THING
HAPPENS EVERY DAY TO DIFFERENT
DRIVERS. I WAS ABLE TO RECTIFY
COUPLE OF SITUATIONS BUT THEY
SAID THEY WERE CUSTOMER BUT THE
WERE NEVER IN MY CAR. WHEN THE
ASKED ME TO WAIT WHILE THEY
WERE LOCKED UP IN EVER BUT THEY
SAID NO NO. BUT TO ORDER
ANOTHER UBER. BECAUSE OF
FABRICATED STORIES BY THEM. IN
ANOTHER INVESTIGATION IS
DEACTIVATED AGAIN. THESE OFTEN
THESE CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS ARE
UNRELIABLE SOURCES OF
INFORMATION. LEAVING ME
VULNERABLE. IS DEACTIVATED IN
2019 AND A FINAL TIME. AND WHY
YOU ARE CONSIDERING DEFINITIONS
OF EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT, IT IS
ONLY FAIR TO ALLOW FOLKS WHO
HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED TO SHOW
THAT THERE ON THE PATH TO
REHABILITATION AND WOULD LIKE T
EARN AN HONEST LIVING WHILE
WORKING IN THE GIG INDUSTRY.
DON'T MAKE PEOPLE WHO ARE
HONESTLY TRYING BECOME ANOTHER
STATISTIC TO ENCOURAGE
INDIVIDUALS AND WHAT WAS ONCE
THE CONSTRUCTION CAPITAL OF THE
WORLD. AS THE CITY COUNCIL
VOTES, WE ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS
THAT HOW CAN YOU NOT DEFEND AN
PROTECT THOSE ?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU
HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, YOU
CAN PLEASE CONSIDER SENDING THE
INTO COUNCILMEMBERS. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER SHOWING PRESENT ONLINE
IS TALISHA HAROLD. TALISHA WILL
BE FOLLOWED BY VALERIE.
>> HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> WE CAN, THANK YOU.
>> I AM AN INSTA CART SHOPPER.
WE ARE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS
AND VERY LITTLE RIGHTS AND THE
APP IS ABLE TO TREAT US AS
EXPENDABLE. THEY HAVE NO
ACCOUNTABILITY. I URGE YOU TO
VOTE YES FOR UNFAIR DEACTIVATIO
PROTECTION AND EMPHASIZE UNFAIR
I REALLY BELIEVE YOU KNOW THE
DIFFERENCE. PLEASE CONTINUE TO
PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY FROM THE
UNSAFE INDIVIDUALS ON THE APP.
OF COURSE NO ONE IS ASKING FOR
THAT TO HAPPEN. AND ALSO HOLD
THE OFFICE DEFINE ACCOUNTABLE
FOR CLEARLY DEFINING
DEACTIVATION POLICIES. IF THE B
OF SEATTLE WANT THE SERVICES TO
CONTINUE, WE WORKERS NEED JUST
AS MUCH PROTECTION FROM UNFAIR
DEACTIVATION. WE NEED AN
ADEQUATE APPEALS PROCESS THAT I
HANDLED IN A TIMELY MANNER
BECAUSE QUALITY WORKERS ARE
LEAVING THESE APPS MAC AND
SETTLE WILL BE LEFT WITH THEM
AND EXPERIENCE THEM POTENTIALLY
UNSAFE. HONESTLY THE WHOLE VIBE
READS IS VERY LITTLE CARE FOR
WORKERS. WHICH IS A SYMPTOM OF
MUCH BIGGER ISSUE. WE NEED
PROTECTION NOW. THE WORKING
CLASS NEEDS PROTECTION NOW.
PLEASE VOTE YES TO SUPPORT THE
VALUABLE WORKERS ON THESE APPS
MAC. YES, REMOVE BAD ACTORS AND
VOTE TO PROVIDE PROTECTIONS TO
THE HUMANS THAT DAILY BRING
QUALITY SERVICE.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS VALERIE.
>> GOOD MORNING. AT THE LAST
MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE, YOU
RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM
FIVE PEOPLE, INCLUDING ME,
DESCRIBING HOW WE WERE SLANDERE
AND THREATENED BY COCHAIRS OF
THE COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION
FOR NONVIOLENTLY EXERCISING OU
RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. YOU WERE
EACH GIVEN A LETTER WITH LINKS
TO VIDEOS, SHOWING OUR
NONVIOLENT SILENT PROTEST THE
CBC MEETING AND A CHANCE AT
REASONABLE DIALOGUE AFTER THE
MEETING WITH THE CPC STAFF AND
THEIR EXECUTIVES. THOSE VIDEOS
AT TINYURL.COM AND CPC ABUSE
MAKE IT CLEAR THAT STATEMENTS B
THE CPC COCHAIRS ABOUT THE
PROTEST AND US ARE LIES. LIES
THAT WERE CAREFULLY SCRIPTED T
JUSTIFY THEIR THREATS OF CALLIN
THE POLICE. THE CPC IS IN THIS
POSITION AND OFFICE WITH A $1
MILLION BUDGET. WE SHOULD NOT
BE ENABLED BY INACTION.
INSTIGATED AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT
OF THE CPC AND VOTE AGAINST THI
REQUEST TO ALTER THE LEGISLATIO
AND DEFINITELY VOTE AGAINST
PAYING THE CPC COCHAIRS TO
INCREASE THE MONTHLY PRESENTS
FOR CHILLING FREE SPEECH. THANK
YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JUSTIN.
JUSTIN WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MARY
JOHNSON.
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
JUSTIN AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. THANK YOU
FOR PROVIDING ME TIME TO ADDRES
THESE CONCERNS OF CB 120580.
FOR A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR
PLATFORM WE ARE A. COMPANY THAT
CONNECTS SHOPPERS AND USERS.
THEIR ESTABLISHING CONNECTIONS
WITH RETAILERS. WHILE WE ARE
COMMITTED TO PROVIDING ACCESS
FOR WORK OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOS
UTILIZING A PLATFORM, WE MUST
ALWAYS PRIORITIZE SAFETY AND
SECURITY. THEY DELIVER AN
INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TRUST IN
SHOPPERS TO DELIVER GOODS TO
THEIR HOMES AND PLACES OF
BUSINESS. EXPENSES ON THE
PLATFORM TO WAS THE SAFETY OF
OUR OTHER USERS. ENCODING
CUSTOMERS ON THE RETAIL PARTNER
WE WORK WITH. OUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH SHOPPERS IS TAKEN VERY
EASILY AND DEACTIVATING AN COUN
IS THE LAST RESORT THIS
INCLUDES AN INTERNAL REVIEW BY
OUR TEAM AS IT IS NOT A DECISIO
WE TAKE LIGHTLY. THE PROPOSED
POLICY FOR YOU TODAY MAY HAVE
GOOD INTENTIONS. BUT IT ALSO MA
ENSURE THE SERVICES THAT
CUSTOMERS RECEIVE MEET THE HIGH
STANDARDS OF SAFETY AND QUALITY
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THAN
YOU.
>> THANKS SO MUCH. MARY JOHNSON
IS SHOWING IS NOT PRESENCE WE
WILL MOVE ONTO BARBARA FINNEY
AND AFTER BARBARA FINNEY, WILL
MOVE ONTO THE LAST FOUR PEOPLE
IN PERSON. WHICH WE WILL START
WITH JAMES LOCKARD. BARBARA?
>> HELLO. I AM BARBARA. I AM A
MEMBER OF THE PUGET SOUND
ALLIANCE FOR THE RETIREE ACTION
AND THAT DELEGATES OF THE MLK
LIBERAL COUNSEL AND SPEAKING I
A PERSONAL CAPACITY. REGARDING
AGE FRIENDLY SEATTLE. REAL
PUBLIC SAFETY FOR RESIDENTS OVE
65 AND FRANKLY, ALL PEOPLE IN
NEED. IT WOULD BE BUDGETING FOR
PUBLICLY OPERATED 24-HOUR , OPE
AND STAFFED COOLING SHELTERS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY. ADEQUATE T
HOLD ALL PEOPLE NEEDING TO GET
OUT OF THE HEAT. DURING AN
EVENT LIKE THE HEAT DOME OF
2021. AND, ON ANOTHER NOTE, AN
INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF THE
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION IS
WAY OVERDUE. THE CPC CULTURES
THREATENED TO CALL ATTENDING T
THE CPC MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.
ATTENDEES USE THEIR VOICES TO
CALL FOR JUSTICE FOR FAMILIES
AND VICTIMS OF POLICE VIOLENCE.
SUCH BEHAVIOR IS FROM CPC IS
UNACCEPTABLE AND SHOWS CPC'S
PERVERSE DYSFUNCTION OF
INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF CPC . THAN
YOU.
>> THANKS SO MUCH. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER MOVING BACK TO IN PERSO
PUBLIC COMMENT IS JAMES LOCKARD
>> IN MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY. I HAVE OVER
23,000 TRIPS. HAVE BEEN DOING
THIS FOR 6 1/2 YEARS AND I ENJO
DOING IT BECAUSE I DON'T FOLLO
RULES TOO WELL. SO COMPANIES
DON'T HIRE ME MY PICTURES
KIDDING. BUT ANYHOW, WHAT I
WANT TO KNOW IS THIS
DEACTIVATION IS IMPORTANT THAT
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHILE THERE WHY
THEY'RE BEING DEACTIVATED.
THERE'S A SWIFTER WAY TO RESOLV
THE ISSUE WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE
LOOKING FOR. WE DRIVE IN
SUPPORT OF AMENDMENT 3 AND WE
ARE HOPING THAT YOU STEP OUT OF
THE BATTER'S BOX FOR MINUTE AN
REVISIT THIS. BECAUSE FOR ME, I
SEEMS LIKE THIS IS MOVING TOO
FAST AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ALL
OF THE DUCKS IN A ROW AS FAR A
GUARDING OUR EYES AND CROSSING
OUR TEAS.
>> AND JUST TO CLARIFY. WE ARE
NOT LOADING THE BILL OUT OF
COMMITTEE TODAY. WE ARE ONLY
VOTING ON AMENDMENTS. NOW FOR
NEXT SPEAKER. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
AT ROVER. I APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEES WORK ON THIS BILL AN
THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY ON CB
120580. ROVER IS THIS YET A
HEADQUARTERED COMPANY IN
DISTRICT 7, WHERE I ALSO LIVE.
WE PROVIDE A WEBSITE FOR PET
LOVERS TO FIND NEIGHBORHOOD CA
CARE SUCH AS PET SITTING. AS A
MARKETPLACE NETWORK COMPANY
WHOSE PLATFORM MUST BY
DEFINITION UNDER THE LAW FUSTON
RIGHTY OF INDEPENDENT SERVICES,
AS WELL AS EXTENSIVE ONE-ON-ON
COMMUNICATION BETWEEN USERS. AN
IS A COMPANY THAT CARES ABOUT
PETS AND SUPPORTS PET CARE,
ROVER HAS UNIQUE SAFETY
RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN SERVING
PETS. AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY
OF PEOPLE WHO USE OUR WEBSITE
AND APP. ROVER MUST PROMOTE
SAFETY FOR ALL USERS. MANY OF
WHOM ARE MEETING EACH OTHER FOR
THE FIRST TIME ONLINE AND
INVITING EACH OTHER AND THEIR
PETS INTO THEIR HOMES. WE SHARE
THE CONCERNS OF OTHERS YOU HAVE
HEARD TODAY THAT THE BALL WILL
UNINTENTIONALLY INTERFERE WITH
ROVER'S ABILITY TO STOP
INDIVIDUALS FROM USING A
PLATFORM IF THEY CREATE HARM.
IF SOMEONE IN PERSON OR ONLINE
OR OTHERWISE ENGAGED IN UNSAFE
OR HARMFUL CONDUCT. WE KNOW THI
IS NOT THE INTENT OF THIS
LEGISLATION. WE APPRECIATE THE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AND WITH
ROVER SHARE THE VALUES .
>> THANKS SO MUCH. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER IS JOELLE KRAFT. DROVE
WILL BE FOLLOWED BY TERRY.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNSEL. I
HAVE BEEN A ROVER PET SITTER
FOR MANY YEARS. I HAVE BEEN PET
SITTING AND ON THE FARM. THAT I
ME ACCIDENTALLY SIGNING UP AGAI
SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID. THE
PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH ALL OF
THESE AMENDMENTS IS THAT THERE
ARE NOT SAFETY PROTECTIONS FOR
ME. A ROVER CLIENT CAN GO ONTO
THE SITE AND PUT AN EMAIL
ADDRESS AND THEN HIRE ME. AND
GET CONTACT INFORMATION AND GET
STUFF ON ME. I DID NOT GET ANY
SAFETIES. I HAVE MY BACKGROUND
CHECK AND ROVER WENT THROUGH AL
THE STUFF AND GOES THROUGH
EVERYTHING AND HAS ALL OF THAT.
BUT THEY DO NOTHING TO
BACKGROUND THE CLIENTS. I HAVE
HAD HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF
CLIENTS OVER THE YEARS. AND ONL
ONE OF THEM AGREED TO MEET ME I
PUBLIC. BECAUSE ALL THE REST
WOULD LIKE, YOU ARE COMING INTO
MY HOME ANYWAYS. THIS BILL,
ALTHOUGH THEY SAID THEY WANTED
SAFE PRACTICES FOR THE CLIENTS.
BUT THEY ONLY ARE ASKING ABOUT
THIS NOW THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR
SAFETY. THEY DID NOT COME UP AT
THIS EARLIER. THE DID NOT COME
UP WITH THIS LAST YEAR. THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND
PLEASE VOTE THESE AMENDMENTS
OUT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER AND OUR LAST PERSON
SIGNED UP FOR IN PERSON COMMENT
IS TERRY.
>> SORRY. I AM SHORT. FIRST OF
ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
SEATTLE CITY COUNTY FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY. IT'S A PLEASURE TO
MEET YOU IN PERSON INSTEAD OF
OVER ZOOM. THE FIRST THING I'LL
SAY IS THAT SOME OF US ARE NOT
PAID TO BE HERE. THE GIG
ECONOMY OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT
YOU ARE HEARING FROM TODAY WANT
FAIR AND RESPONSIBLE AND
REASONABLE DEACTIVATION'S. WE
ARE NOT ASKING FOR KEEPING OUR
JOB IF WE HAVE A DUI OR KEEPIN
OUR JOB IF WE DO SOMETHING
WRONG. WE ARE ASKING FOR
REASONABLE OVERSIGHT. REGARDIN
THESE. BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MANY
OF THESE EXAMPLES OF RESEARCH
NOT BEING DONE BY THESE
COMPANIES. OVER AND OVER AGAIN
THESE COMPANIES HAVE NOT
PROVIDED US WITH TRANSPARENCY.
AND THEREFORE, WE NEED YOUR
ASSISTANCE IN PASSING THIS
ORDINANCE. AND OF JESUS CHRIST
COULD MAKE SEATTLE UNDER
PROTEST, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN
VOTE FOR THIS. AND
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BILL
LAZOR LOS PUBLIC SPEAKER TO
TESTIFY SHOWING IN THE ROOM AS
WELL AS SHOWING IS PRESENT
ONLINE. THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR
JOINING US TODAY. TO SPEAK TO
THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
MOVING ON. CLOSING PUBLIC
COMMENT AND MOVING ON TO AGENDA
ITEM 1. WITH THE CLERK PLEASE
READ AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1?
>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 IS AN
UPDATE ON DO OF DISPATCH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M
REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEXT
PRESENTATION. AS OUR SPEAKERS
ARE JOINING US AT THE TABLE, I
JUST WANT TO SAY COUPLE OF VERY
QUICK WORDS. MOST PEOPLE KNOW
THAT IN THE ADOPTED BUDGETS FOR
EACH 2021 AND 2022 AND 2023 THA
THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED FUNDIN
TO SUPPORT DIFFERENT ELEMENTS
AND TO SET UP A PILOT FOR AN
ALTERNATE RESPONSE PROGRAM.
WHICH WOULD DEPLOY BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH EXPERTS WITH POLICE
OFFICER SITUATIONAL AWARENESS
AND CALL RESPONSES AS REQUIRED
FOR THE CAUSE WITH THE
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEXUS. THIS
HAS BEEN THE PROJECT THAT HAS
BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR SEVERAL
YEARS NOW. BEGINNING IN THE
VERY EARLY TERMS AS
CONVERSATIONS IN RESPONSE TO TH
2020 CIVIL-RIGHTS UPRISINGS.
MOST RECENTLY, IN FEBRUARY, THE
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
COMMUNICATION CENTER SHARED WIT
US TECHNICAL UPDATES TOWARD THI
WORK AS THEY IMPLEMENTED COUNSE
FUNDING OR NEW 911 PROTOCOL
SOFTWARE IS THAT ARE NECESSARY
TO SET UP THE ALTERNATE RESPONS
PROGRAM. TODAY, WE HAVE
REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF TH
MAYORS OFFICE AND THE SEA SEC,
AND FOLKS TO JOIN US. TO GIVE
WHAT IS PROMISED TO BE A VERY
COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ON THE WOR
TOWARDS LAUNCHING THIS PILOT
PROGRAM LATER THIS YEAR. I WILL
TURN IT TO OUR PRESENTERS TO
INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND BEGIN
THEIR PRESENTATION. COUNCIL
MEMBERS, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO
EACH ONE OF YOU TO ASSURE YOU
THAT THE COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF
WILL BE AVAILABLE TO TAKE ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. TO
BE ANSWERED AFTER THIS MEETING.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE AR
JUST WANTING TO REALLY HEAR
PRIMARILY FROM THE EXECUTIVE IN
THIS SESSION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. WE
ARE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO DAYLIGHT FOR BOTH THE COUNCI
AND THE PUBLIC THE WORK THAT HA
BEEN DONE TODAY. I HEAR TO
INTRODUCE TO ALL OF YOU THAT YO
MAY HAVE MET IN THE BACKGROUND
BUT TO REALLY INTRODUCED TO THE
PUBLIC OUR DIRECTOR, REBA
GONZALES, WHO IS OVERSEEING THE
SEA SEC RIGHT NOW. AND OUR
DEPUTY DIRECTOR, AMY SMITH, WHO
IS OVERSEEING AFTER DEPARTMENT
LAUNCH. BOTH OF WHOM I HAVE A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRUST AND
RESPECT FOR. THEY HAVE BEEN
DOING JUST AN OUTSTANDING JOB
SINCE STARTING THIS WORK. AND
HAVE REALLY MOVE THIS WORK
FORWARD AT SUCH A GREAT TIP IT
WE ARE EXCITED FOR THE LAUNCH
LATER THIS YEAR. AND I WILL TUR
IT OVER TO AMY TO BEGIN HER
PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING. I'M REALLY
HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU. AMY
SMITH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR. FOCUSED
ON ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE AND ALS
COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND EXTERNA
AFFAIRS. MY NATIVE
WASHINGTONIAN. HAVE LIVED AND
WORKED AND STUDIED AND A LOT OF
DIFFERENT PLACES. WHICH HAS ONL
FURTHER CONVINCE ME THAT
SEATTLE IS BEST. TODAY WE WILL
TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO SHARE THE
WORK THAT HAS HAPPENED. THE WOR
THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND
WHAT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THI
FALL. AND IT WILL BE HAPPY TO
ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION AND
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN
BEFORE WE PROCEED FURTHER, I
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WITH SOME
REVERENCE THE WORK OF FOLKS IN
THIS MEETING AND PEOPLE IN THIS
ROOM. TO ADVANCE A HEALTHIER AN
SAFER COMMUNITY. I ESPECIALLY
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE CITY COUNCI
AND CENTRAL STAFF WITH THE
MAYORS OFFICE AND APARTMENT
ACROSS THE CITY AND ACROSS KING
COUNTY. I'M AN ACADEMIC AND
SORRY PHIL HAPPY TO PARTNER WIT
EXPERTS AT SEATTLE UNIVERSITY
AND PRINCE AT THE SEATTLE
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON.
ACKNOWLEDGE LEADERSHIP AND I
THINK YOU. AND FINALLY, I WANT
TO EXTEND DEEP GRATITUDE TO TH
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
THE SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND
EMS AND TO MY TEAMMATES AT 911
DISPATCH. THE WORK OF FIRST
RESPONSE IS RELENTLESS. I CAN
SPEAK FOR HOURS ABOUT THE HEROI
SEVERITY OBSERVED IN THE FIELD.
I'M GOING TO LUNCH AND REALLY
HASTY UPDATES ABOUT OPERATIONS
EVALUATIONS. BUT I WANT TO
ANCHOR US IN THE REALITY THAT
THIS WORK IS SO DIFFICULT. THA
THESE PROFESSIONALS CHOOSE TO
SPEND THEIR DAYS IN THE STATE O
PERPETUAL CRISIS AND PAIN AND
IT'S OUR JOB TO SHOW FOR THE
COMMUNITY. BUT IT'S ALSO A JOB
TO MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR THESE
FIRST RESPONDERS. I AM CONSUME
BY THE POTENTIAL HAVE TO PROVID
A BETTER SYSTEM OF SUPPORT AND
STRUCTURAL CHANGE TO BENEFIT
THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE SHOWING UP
EVERY DAY. SO, THIS IS
REFERENCING THE 2022 TERM SHEET
OUR TEAM IS WORKING TO MAKE SUR
THAT THE OBJECTIVES AND
INTENTIONS HERE ARE REALIZED.
BELIEVE THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE
THROUGH THIS WORK IN THE PAST
THAT WE MUST REALLY IMPROVE
CULTURAL RESPONSIVENESS. WHAT
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND AS A
SOCIETY IS THAT WE SIMPLY DO NO
HAVE ENOUGH WORKERS. WE DON'T
HAVE ENOUGH FIRST RESPONDERS AR
SOCIAL WORKERS. WE DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS. HAVE COLLEAGUES
NATIONALLY WHO ARE WORKING ON
THE STRUCTURAL CHANGES. BUT IN
THE MEANTIME, WE NEED TO BE AS
COORDINATED AS WE CAN IN OUR
EFFORTS. WHEN HE TO REDUCE
DUPLICATION AND WE WANT TO
LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY AND WE NEED
TO SHARE RESOURCES. WE MUST WOR
TOGETHER. THE LANGUAGE THAT IS
HERE FOR PRIORITY THREE AND
PRETTY 4 THIS REFERS TO
NONCRIMINAL AND ON HEALTH
EMERGENCY CALL TYPES. THESE ARE
THE KINDS WE CONTINUE TO
STRUGGLE TO RESPOND TO
ESPECIALLY DURING VERY BUSY
TIMES. THE WAY THAT I
CONCEPTUALIZE THIS NEW TEAM OF
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONDERS IS
THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE
CURRENTLY POSITIONED AND
RESOURCED TO RESPOND ON AN
ACUITY CONTINUANCE. YOU CAN SEE
THE POLICE ALREADY HAVE A
FANTASTIC CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM.
HIGHLY SKILLED AND HIGHLY
TRAINED OFFICER WITH A HIGHLY
SKILLED AND HIGHLY TRAINED
MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL
RESPOND TOGETHER DURING THE CAL
THAT REQUIRES BOTH DISCIPLINES.
ON THE OTHER END OF THE ACUITY
SPECTRUM, WE HAVE SET A FIRE
WITH HEALTH ONE. THEY CAN
RESPOND TO CO-OCCURRING PHYSICA
AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS.
BUT THE 911 DATA LOCALLY AND
NATIONALLY SHOWS THAT THE CRISI
IS MORE LIKE A BELL CURVE. THE
MAJORITY OF CALLS FALL IN THE
MIDDLE. LOW ACUITY AND WHAT WE
MIGHT NOT CONSIDER EMERGENCY.
MANY HAVE A MENTAL OR
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ASPECT. AND S
IT'S IN THIS MIDDLE SPACE, THE
LOW ACUITY SPACE, WHERE WE
REALLY NEED TO DEVELOP AND
EVALUATE AND CONTINUE TO
ITERATE. THERE ARE CURRENTLY
ABOUT 75 ACTIVE PILOTS IN THIS
COUNTRY. THE VAST MAJORITY ARE
IN VERY NASCENT STAGES. THEY
HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED SINCE 2020
AND WERE PART OF A NATIONAL
GROWING COMMUNITY OF PRACTICE O
FOLKS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW
TO BEST RESPOND TO IDENTIFY
LEADING INDICATORS OF WHAT MIGH
BE WORKING AND UNDER WHAT
CIRCUMSTANCES. NOW, OUT OF THE
MACRO AND INTO THE MINUTIA I
TAKE YOU. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT
THAT VIRTUALLY ALL THE CAPITAL
INVESTMENT AND EQUIPMENT NEEDED
TO STAND UP THIS PROGRAM IS IN
HAND OR ALREADY OR ABOUT TO BE
PICKED ON THE STAFFING FRONT,
WE ARE IN THE FINAL ROUND OF
INTERVIEWS WITH THE
COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.
>> DO YOU MIND GOING BACK AND
GOING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE? WE
ARE PRESSED FOR TIME BUT THIS I
A LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
>> RIGHT AND IF YOU'RE
INTERESTED IN THIS LEVEL OF
DETAIL, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU,
YES. A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT HAS
BEEN SECURED THROUGH A
PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER CITY
DEPARTMENTS. IT REALLY IS AN
EXPANSION OF SERVICES. WE ARE
NOT INVENTING SOMETHING NEW.
WE'RE EXPANDING THE RANGE OF
SERVICE WE CURRENTLY HAVE. THA
MIDDLE SECTION, THE EQUIPMENT
THAT IS ALL IN HAND, THE
MUNICIPAL TIRES HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED FOR A WORK SPACE FOR
THE SIX MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS DISPATCHED ON THE
FLOOR WITH 911. AND THEN WE
HAVE ONE PORTAL EXPLORER WHICH
HAS BEEN REPURPOSED AND IS
PROCURED. AND THEIR TWO OTHER
AND PROCESS. IN REALITY, OUR
TEAMS HAVE THREE TEAMS OF TWO.
TWO ARE WORKING AT ONE TIME.
>> STAFFING IS WELL UNDERWAY.
WE HAVE A NEW EXECUTIVE
ASSISTANT AND WERE HIRING A
COMMUNICATION PROFESSIONAL.
HAVE BEEN DESCRIBING THAT ROLE
AS AT LEAST HALF EDUCATOR. IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FRAME
UP FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT WE ARE
TRYING TO DO AND WHAT THEIR ROL
IS IN SUPPORTING IT AND FROM A
911 LINES, WHO TO CALL.
ESPECIALLY AS THIS COMES ONLINE
WENT IS A BIT HIRING SIX
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONDERS AN
A CLINICAL SUPERVISOR. THOSE
POSITIONS ARE DRAFTED. THEY'RE
GOING TO THE CITY APPROVAL
PROCESS. IT IS MY ANTICIPATION
THAT WE HAVE REALLY GREAT
CANDIDATES ALREADY WORKING FOR
THE CITY WHO WILL HAVE INTEREST
IN JOINING THIS TEAM. AND WE
ARE WORKING TO COMPARE AND
COORDINATE LANGUAGE ACROSS THE
THREE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS
THIS IS A SIMPLE AND LOGICAL.
BUT WILL MAKE A CRITICAL
DIFFERENCE. IT'S INTERESTING
WITH THE VARIANCE IN LANGUAGE
ACROSS DIFFERENT TEAMS
RESPONDING TO CRISIS. MY
OPERATIONS TEAMMATES HAVE BEEN
HARD AT WORK ARTICULATING
PROTOCOLS. THERE FUNCTIONALLY
THINKING THROUGH COMMON
SCENARIOS. WE HAVE LEARNED A LO
FROM OTHER ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE
PROGRAMS. ESPECIALLY
ALBUQUERQUE, DENVER, DURHAM.
JUST ABOUT EVERY CONVERSATION I
HAVE FEATURES THE QUESTION, WHA
DO WISH YOU HAD KNOWN WHEN YOU
STARTED? WHAT DID YOU GET WRONG
INVARIABLY, PEOPLE HAVE A LIST
FOR US. I KNOW THAT REGARDLESS,
WE WILL HAVE OUR OWN LIST. WE
WILL UNDERSTAND THINGS
INCORRECTLY OR GUESS WRONG AND
WILL BE READY TO SHARE
EVERYTHING WE ARE LEARNING WITH
THE PUBLIC AND WITH OUR
COLLEAGUES IN THE FIELD. IN TH
911 DISPATCH CENTER, WE ARE
UPDATING CALL TAKERS AND
DISPATCHES ON PROGRESS AT WEEKL
ROLLCALL MEETINGS. HAVE
DEVELOPED A STRATEGY WHICH IS
TALK ABOUT THIS INCESSANTLY IN
THE HALLS AND BREAK ROOM AND
PEOPLE CANNOT AVOID THE
CONVERSATION. I REALLY BELIEVE
IN CO-CREATING THIS RESPONSE.
AND ESPOUSE THE PRINCIPLES OF
SCIENCE THAT FOLKS ON THE FRONT
LINES OF THE FOLKS THAT PROBABL
UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM BEST AND
CAN RECOMMEND THE BEST
SOLUTIONS. NO PROTOCOLS ARE
BEING CREATED WITH COMPUTER
AIDED DISPATCH. I AM CHALLENGIN
THE TEAM TO IDENTIFY SUBSETS OF
THE IDENTIFIED CALL TYPES. THAT
YOU IDENTIFIED THAT THESE ARE
VERY BROAD. WE WANT TO BE ABLE
TO TEST THE EFFICACY OF OUR
APPROACH. AS YOU MIGHT KNOW OR
GUESS, IN RESEARCH, YOU WANT TO
BE ABLE TO COMPARE LIKE WITH
LIKE. YOU WANT ONLY A FEW
VARIABLES. BECAUSE IF OVER THE
FIRST 90 DAYS THAT EVERY SINNER
IS DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT, IT'S
HARD TO ASCERTAIN WHAT IS
WORKING. AS YOU HAVE GATHERED,
EVALUATION IS VERY IMPORTANT TO
ME AND CONTINUAL IMPROVEMENT IS
A HIGH PRIORITY. WE ARE WORKING
TO IDENTIFY WHICH MEASURES WILL
REALLY BE THE MOST MEANINGFUL.
I TEND TO BE A CRITIC OF COMMON
METRICS. NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE
WRONG BUT BECAUSE I PERCEIVE
THEM TO BE INCOMPLETE. FOR
EXAMPLE, WE CAN TRACK RESPONSE
TIMES. BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAN
IF IT WAS THE BEST RESPONSE. WE
WILL LOOK NOT JUST AT EFFICIENC
BUT WE REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT
EFFECTIVENESS. WAS THIS THE BES
FIRST RESPONSE? WAS THE PERSON
CONNECTED TO THE CARE THAT THEY
NEED? I WAS JUST SHARING WITH
COLLEAGUE YESTERDAY AND I GOT
VERY EXCITED ANYTIME I CAN MAKE
A STRONG ECONOMIC CASE FOR AN
INITIATIVES AND A STRONG ETHICA
CASE AS WELL. SO WE'RE
POSITIONED TO REALLY USE SCARCE
RESOURCES IN A MORE EFFECTIVE
AND STRATEGIC WAY. WE'RE
POSITIONED TO DRIVE AND ADVANCE
EQUITY THROUGH COMMUNITY DRIVEN
DESIGN PRINCIPLES AND VISITING
DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES. HAVE
OBSERVED THAT SOME OF THESE
PROGRAMS ARE BRANDED SO
BEAUTIFULLY. THERE POSITIONED
WELL WITH A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE
COMMUNITY THAT DO NOT KNOW ABOU
THE PROGRAMS. MY CAREER HAS
TAUGHT ME AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT
THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THE
RESOURCES THE NOTE MOST DO NOT
KNOW ABOUT THEM AND TRUE
LEARNING REQUIRES PRACTICE AND
ENGAGEMENT. IT REQUIRES A
TWO-WAY CONVERSATION AND AN
ONGOING DIALOGUE. YOU WILL SEE
THAT DIALOGUE PRIORITY REFLECTE
IN WHAT IS NEXT. THIS FALL WE
ARE ABSOLUTELY ON TRACK TO STAN
UP THIS PROGRAM. WE ARE
EXPERIENCING EXCELLENT SUPPORT
AND A LOT OF MOMENTUM. I'M
COMFORTABLE WITH MULTIPLE TRAIN
RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME. IT
WOULD BE REALLY LOVELY TO JUST
CONTINUE TO RESEARCH AND SORT O
I DID OVER COUPLE OF YEARS TO
DEVELOP NICE PRESS KITS AND
LOGOS AND TALKING POINTS AND TO
ENGAGE IN THE LATERAL CHANGE
STRATEGY. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE
LUXURY. PEOPLE ARE REALLY
SUFFERING AND WE KNOW ENOUGH TO
HELP RIGHT NOW. AS QUICKLY AS W
CAN RESPONSIBLY GET MORE FOLKS
IN THE FIELD IN RESPONSE, WE
ABSOLUTELY WELL. AGAIN, I
APPLAUD YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS
EFFORT AND I LOVE WORKING
ALONGSIDE YOU IN IT. I'M VERY
HAPPY NOT TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS
YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> SENIOR DEPUTY MAYOR. OR
DIRECTOR GONZALEZ. ANY ADDITION
TO THAT WONDERFUL PRESENTATION?
>> I JUST CANNOT EMPHASIZE
ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT THIS
PROGRAM IS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT W
HAVE A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION IN
SEATTLE. AND THAT THIS THIRD
PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT THAT
WERE STANDING UP IS ASSOCIATED
OR AFFILIATED WITH 1911 CALL
CENTER. THAT HAS BEEN A HURDLE
ANOTHER CITIES IN TERMS OF THE
COORDINATION. AND IN TERMS OF
THE CONFIDENCE BUILDING ON THE
TYPES OF RESPONSES THAT THESE
PROGRAMS AND UP RESPONDING TO.
AND ALSO, I APPRECIATE THAT WE
ARE BEING VERY PRAGMATIC IN OUR
PROCESS. AND SURE, WE SEE THE
LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL
AND WE HAVE VISION ONE YEAR OUT
OR TWO YEARS OUT. BUT WE ALSO
LEARNED FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS
AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT BEING
PRAGMATIC IS BETTER FOR
EVERYONE. BECAUSE OF THE
CO-RESPONSE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE
HAVE AND OUR PARTNERSHIPS. AND
SO WE ARE TAKING THAT VERY
SERIOUSLY.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WE
RECOGNIZE SEATTLE'S UNIQUE SET
OF CIRCUMSTANCES. THAT THIS IS
CONVERSATION HAPPENING ACROSS
THE COUNTRY. AND THAT THERE ARE
MANY DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS
THAT HAVE DIFFERENT
RELATIONSHIPS. WE LEARNED A LOT
FROM HER MOST RECENT TRIP TO
ALBUQUERQUE. WE WERE NOT ONLY
VISITING WITH THEIR COMMUNITY
SAFETY DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS WHA
THE COLLET THERE. THE
ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY.
BUT THEY LEARNED IN THEIR
PARTNERSHIP WITH WORKING WITH
OTHER DEPARTMENTS. WE BROUGHT
PRETTY BROAD GROUP TO BE TO
UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE OTHER
SERVICES AND THE BUDGET OFFICE,
AND THIS NEW DEPARTMENT. WE FEE
REALLY WELL-PREPARED TO BUILD
INTEGRATE THIS DEPARTMENT
SEAMLESSLY AND IS NO FUNCTION
SEAMLESSLY INTO THE REST OF WHA
WE ARE DOING. THE ONE THING AMY
TOUCHED ON THAT I JUST WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT. WHICH IS THAT HAVING
THESE GREAT SERVICE ON THIS
GREAT FEATURE, WE WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO SERVICE THE ENTIRE CITY
AT THE SAME TIME. THIS IS NOT
GOING TO START OUT A 24/7
SERVICE WITH COVERAGE FOR ALL 8
SQUARE MILES OF THE CITY. BUT
WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IS THAT
EVEN AS ALBUQUERQUE'S PROGRAM
FOR EXAMPLE HAS GROWN. STILL
MOST OF THE CITY DOES NOT KNOW
THAT IT EXISTS. AND SO THE
IMPORTANCE IS HOW TO GET THE
PROGRAM OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO
NEED IT FIRST. AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY. SOME OF THEIR BEST
KEY PARTNERS ARE TRULY THOSE
FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. BECAUSE
THE OFFICERS WILL GET TO A SCEN
WHERE THEY MAY RECOGNIZE THAT
THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR
BANDWIDTH TO TRULY HANDLE THE
SITUATION THROUGH TO ITS IN.
IT'S AND IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL
SEEN AND IT'S NOT AN ACUTE
MEDICAL SCENE. AND THEN THE
ALBUQUERQUE ACS TEAM IS BEST T
RESPOND. THEY GET A LOT OF
REFERRALS FROM THE POLICE
OFFICERS. THE GET A LOT OF
REFERRALS FROM THOSE WHO ARE
ACTUALLY RESPONDING AND WHO HAV
CALLED STACKED UP IN OTHER AREA
THAT THEY NEED TO MEET. AND
HELPING TO TRAIN THE 911
RESPONSE TO SAID ACTUALLY THE
SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN A POLICE
CALL OR FIRE CALL. THIS SHOULD
HAVE GONE HERE TO ACS TO START.
AND SO WE'RE LEARNING SOME OF
THOSE LESSONS NOW. AND I THINK
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE
ECOSYSTEM TO REALIZE THAT THIS
IS A HOLE THAT HAS BEEN MISSING
AND THAT THIS WILL HELP TO FREE
UP RESOURCES FOR THOSE CALLS
THAT ARE CRIMINAL IN NATURE. OR
MEDICAL WITH ACUTE I NEED. WHAT
WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE RIGHT
ALONGSIDE WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FRO
TALKING TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS IS
TRULY WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS. T
EXPAND CITY SERVICES TO MEET TH
NEEDS OF THOSE PEOPLE BEFORE
THEY BECOME THAT 911 CALL THAT
REQUIRES POLICE AND FIRE.
BECAUSE IT HAS GROWN TO THAT.
IT'S A SITUATION THAT HAS GROWN
TO THAT AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN
HANDLED THAT LOWER LEVEL EARLY.
AND NOW WE ARE RESPONDING TO AN
EMERGENCY. THIS IS REALLY A
STRONG PREVENTATIVE MEASURE
FROM SITUATIONS THAT COULD GET
WORSE IF WE DID NOT HAVE THIS I
PLACE. I'M TRULY GRATEFUL TO
COUNSEL FOR YOUR CONTINUED
SUPPORT AND ALLOWING US TO
DEVELOP THIS IN A WAY THAT IS
BOTH STRONG FOR THE CITY AND
ALSO SUSTAINABLE AND REALLY
ENSURES THAT WE HAVE A
SUSTAINABLE SYSTEM THAT WILL
LIVE PAST MANY OF OUR TENURES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY IN CLOSIN
THAT I WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND
GORMAN FROM COUNSEL CENTRAL
STAFF FOR RECOGNIZING US. IF
SHE HAS QUESTIONS THAT SHE COUL
FOLLOW ON UP AFTER THE MEETING
AND WILL FACILITATE THOSE
QUESTIONS GETTING TO HER. WANT
TO RECOGNIZE THAT SARAH SMITH I
IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL AND
SHE'S A GREAT PARTNER ON THE
EXECUTIVE SIDE. AND REALLY JUS
THANKING THEM FOR THEIR
DILIGENCE IN HELPING US WORK
TOGETHER TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AND FINALLY, I KNOW THAT YOU
WILL BE LEAVING US IN THE FALL.
BUT REALLY I HOPE THAT YOU WILL
BE STAYING ON. AT LEAST THROUG
THE FINAL STAGES OF LAUNCH. AN
REALLY I AM SO APPRECIATIVE OF
YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR TENACITY
AND YOUR HELPING US TO STEER TH
SHIP TOWARDS THIS SHARED
OUTCOME. I'M REALLY ENCOURAGED
BY TODAY'S PRESENTATION. AS WEL
AS APPRECIATE THE WORK GROUP
MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN
PARTICIPATING IN IN BETWEEN
PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS. AND I
JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT
THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS
LOT OF TRIAGING THAT HAS BEEN
GOING ON WITHIN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT. CHIEF DIAZ HAS IN
PAST YEARS MOVED OFFICERS TO
MEET THE NEED. EVERYTHING FROM
MOVING OFFICERS FROM SPECIAL
UNITS TO PRIORITY 1911 RESPONSE
IN 2021. OR MORE RECENTLY MOVIN
OFFICERS FROM SPECIAL UNITS TO
ADDRESS INCREASES IN HOMICIDE
TODAY WITH THE NEW TASK FORCE
THAT HAS BEEN FORMED. WE KNOW
THAT SPD HAS MOVED MORE CALLS T
ONLINE AND TELEPHONE REPORTING
AND THEY MAY ALSO BE CONSIDERED
USING OTHER CIVILIAN STAFF TO
CONDUCT LIMITED CASE REPORTING.
ALL OF THIS TO FREE UP OFFICER
FOR HIGHER PRIORITIES. BUT
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH TRIAGE THA
CAN BE DONE. WE HAVE SEEN THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF
TRIAGE. SUCH AS FOR INSTANCE
WHEN THE MOVE OF OFFICERS IN TH
SPECIALTY UNITS TO 911 RESPONSE
RESULTED IN A SHORTAGE IN THE
SEXUAL ASSAULT UNIT. WE ALL KNO
THAT WE NEED A MORE ROBUST
ALTERNATIVE TO SPD RESPONSE NOW
AND JUST AGAIN, WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE AND THE CSCC ARE MOVING
FORWARD TO IMPLEMENT A SHARED
GOALS FOR AN ALTERNATE RESPONSE
PROGRAM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER ANDREW LEWIS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS
GREAT PRESENTATION TODAY AND
I'M EXCITED TO GET THIS REPORT
THAT WE'RE CLOSE AND ON THE CUS
OF REALLY A LEGACY DIRECTING
UPDATE . UNPRECEDENTED AND WHA
WE ARE GOING TO DO TO REALLY
REVAMP OUR PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM
THE CONTRIBUTION THAT HAS A
REALLY SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL TO
PROVIDE A LOT OF ESSENTIAL HELP
AND ASSISTANCE TO PEOPLE ON THE
STREETS RIGHT NOW. AND ALL OF U
KNOW THAT THE NEED TO HAVE SOM
ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY. BUT
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY IN A
POSITION TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
THAT. AND REALLY, I JUST WANT T
PROFOUNDLY THINK THE ENTIRE
EXECUTIVE TEAM WHO IS HERE IN
CHAMBERS TODAY FOR THEIR WORK O
DELIVERING ON A QUICK TIMELINE.
AND WHILE AT CERTAIN POINTS, IT
LOOKED LIKE THINGS WERE MAYBE
TWO STEPS FORWARD AND ONE STEP
BACK, THIS IS HARD WORK AND
EVERYONE HERE HAS BEEN DOING TH
WORK AND PUTTING IT IN. EVEN I
ALL OF THIS US WOULD HAVE LIKED
TO HAVE GOTTEN IT DONE FASTER,
WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF GETTING I
DONE RIGHT. AND I REALLY LOOK
FORWARD TO THIS FALL. WHEN WE
GET TO LAUNCH THIS. I LOVE THE
SUBSTANTIVE UPDATES TODAY ON
HIRING. AND THE VERY CLEAR
ENUMERATION OF AT THE HIRING AN
OPERATIONAL PLAN IS GOING TO BE
THIS IS GOING TO MAKE A REALLY
HUGE DIFFERENCE. I THINK IT'S
TANTAMOUNT TO THE SHARED
COMMITMENT THAT THIS COUNSEL
AND THIS MAYORAL TEAM HAS ON
REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY MOVING
FORWARD ON COMPREHENSIVE
COMMUNITY SAFETY FOR THE CITY.
WHEN WE LAUNCH THIS IN THE FALL
I THINK THAT THAT IS PUTTING
WHERE WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE
TASK FORCES WERE WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT STUFF. WE WILL BE DOING
STUFF. AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD
TO THAT SO MUCH. I DON'T HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS BUT I JUST WANT T
LIFT UP THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE
IN THE ROOM. I'M SUPER EXCITED
TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
PEOPLE ON THIS TEAM AND I'M
REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS
CHANGE ON THE GROUND PHYSICALLY
MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SEEING NO
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS, THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
ITEM ON THE AGENDA. MR. CLARK.
CAN YOU PLEASE READ IN AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 2.
>> CB 120580. AND ORDINANCE
RELATING TO APP BASED WORKER
LABOR STANDARDS , ESTABLISHING
LABOR STANDARDS ON DEACTIVATION
PROTECTIONS FOR APP BASED
WORKERS WORKING IN SEATTLE.
AMENDING SECTION 3.0 2.125 OF
THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE, AN
ADDING A NEW CHAPTER 8.402 THE
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. BEFORE
HANDING IT OVER TO COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF TO INTRODUCE
THEMSELVES AND BEGIN OUR
PROCESS, JUST A COUPLE OF
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS. AS WELL
AS AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT OUR
PROCESS WILL BE MOVING FORWARD.
TODAY WE ARE HEARING PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS TO A SECOND BILL AND
THE PAY UP SWEEP THE PROTECTION
FOR APP BASED WORKERS. BOTH
PIECES OF LEGISLATION INCLUDING
THIS ONE HAVE BEEN COSPONSORED
BY COUNCILMEMBER ANDREW LEWIS
AND MYSELF. THESE BILLS HAVE
SPOKEN TO THE ISSUES FACED BY
WORKERS IN ONE OF THE
FASTEST-GROWING ECONOMIES OF OU
CITY. AN ECONOMY THAT IS
LARGELY UNREGULATED. WITH LABO
PROTECTIONS. AND MANY FOLKS
HAVE HAD THEIR ACCESSED INCOME
REVOKED WITH NO NOTICE OR NO
OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL THE
DECISIONS MADE BY ALGORITHMS .
OFTEN WITH LITTLE TO NO HUMAN
REVIEW. WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF
AMENDMENT TO GO THROUGH AND WE
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S
ENGAGEMENT IN THE POLICY. FOR
VIEWERS IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU
WANT TO WATCH THE MAY 23rd
COMMITTEE MEETING, YOU CAN GET
FULL PRESENTATION OF THE
DISCUSSION OF THE DRAFT
LEGISLATION. WE ARE JOINED BY
COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF WHO CAN
ANSWER QUESTIONS. THEY WILL BOT
BE PRESENTING THE AMENDMENTS AN
ANSWERING QUESTIONS. BUT JUST A
IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO THE
PROCESS, THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE
VERSION FOR WHICH COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF WILL EXPLAIN THE
CONTENTS. THERE ARE SEVERAL
AMENDMENTS. SEVERAL OF WHICH
ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
AMENDMENTS. AND SO, THE STEPS
WE WILL TAKE IS THAT FIRST I
WILL MOVE THE MAIN BILL. AND
THEN THE SUBSTITUTE VERSION.
AFTER WHICH, THE COMMITTEE CAN
THEN CONSIDER THE AMENDMENTS IN
THE ORDER THAT THEY ARE LISTED
ON THE AGENDA. WE WILL PAUSE
BEFORE MOVING TO THE AMENDMENTS
TO GIVE COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF
THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN WHAT
IS IN THE SUBSTITUTE AFTER I
MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE. AND THEN,
AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO
THE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
AMENDMENTS, EACH OF THE
AMENDMENTS WILL BE BRIEFLY
PRESENTED BY COUNSEL CENTRAL
STAFF. THE SPONSOR OUR SPONSOR
CAN SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT. THE
I WILL REQUEST A MOTION AND A
SECOND. AFTER WE HAVE THE MOTIO
AND THE SECOND, I WILL ALLOW FO
ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS TO IDENTIF
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. ABOUT
THE MOTION. AND AFTER QUESTION
OR COMMENTS ARE COMPLETE, WE
WILL PROCEED WITH THE VOTES.
AGENDA ITEMS 2 AND FIVE AND 8,
EACH HAVE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
AMENDMENTS. UNDERSTAND THAT
SPONSORS OF AMENDMENT 2A,
COUNCILMEMBER ANDREW LEWIS AND
MYSELF AND 2B , WILL NOT BE
MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE
AMENDMENTS. SO THAT LEAVES
AGENDA ITEMS 5 AND 8 AS BEING
THE TWO AGENDA ITEMS LEFT THAT
HAVE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
AMENDMENTS. FOR AMENDMENTS THAT
ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, I
REQUEST A MOTION. IF THERE IS A
SECOND, THE AMENDMENT WILL BE
PRESENTED ON THE SPONSOR CAN
SPEAK TO IT. AFTER THE SPONSOR
SPEAKS TO THE AMENDMENT, I WILL
ASK OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS IF THE
HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
AFTER VOTES ON AMENDMENTS,
CENTRAL STAFF AND NOT JUST AFTE
THE VOTES OF THE AMENDMENTS,
BUT AFTER THIS MEETING, CENTRAL
STAFF WILL PREPARE AN AMENDED
SUBSTITUTE FOR CONSIDERATION AT
THE JULY 11th MEETING. SO AS
LONG AS THAT PROCESS IS
UNDERSTOOD , I WILL GET YOU
STARTED. BY JUST PAUSING TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL GOOD
THERE. I WILL GET US STARTED B
MOVING THE MAIN BILL TO PLACE I
BEFORE THE COMMITTEE. I MOVE
THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
PASSAGE OF COUNSEL BILL CB
120580. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> MADAM CHAIR, I THINK
COUNCILMEMBER SARA NELSON IS
LOOKING TO BE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU . COUNCILMEMBER
SARA NELSON.
>> DID YOU SAY THAT I WAS
DROPPING MY VERSION OF
AMENDMENT 2?
>> THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. M
UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE HAD
DISCUSSED AMENDMENT 2 C . BUT
IF THAT IS NOT THE CASE, I AM
HAPPY TO ROLL WITH YOUR
PREFERENCE.
>> SINCE THIS IS IN THE PUBLIC
RECORD, I WOULD SIMPLY LIKE TO
EXPLAIN WHY SOME OF THOSE ITEMS
ARE IN THERE. OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS NOT AT
ALL TRYING TO MINIMIZE SPEAKIN
TO AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
WITHDRAWN. JUST CLARIFYING THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE ARE LIKELY
TO BE VOTING ON.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> JASMINE.
>> HELLO. I'M PART OF COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF. I BELIEVE
COUNCILMEMBER LISA HERBOLD THA
THE BILL IS CB 120580.
>> TODAY USE THE WRONG NUMBER?
CB 120580. THANK YOU. LET'S DO
THAT AGAIN. TAKE TWO.
>> I'M OF THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF COUNSEL
BILL CB 120580. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CANCEL
BILL CB 120580 HAS BEEN MOVED
AND SECONDED. NOW WE CAN MOVE
THE CONSIDERATION OF THE
SUBSTITUTE BILL. I WILL MOVE
AND SEEK A SECOND. AND THEN WE
WILL LET COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF
SPEAK TO THE DIFFERENCES IN THE
SUBSTITUTE BILL. SO, I MOVE
THAT THE SUBSTITUTE VERSION TO
THE COUNSEL BILL CB 120580 AS
PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA. IS
THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF. EXPLAIN THE
SUBSTITUTE PLEASE.
>> THE SUBSTITUTE CLARIFIES
ENFORCEMENT AND SCOPE AND
EXPECTATIONS. INCLUDING THE
EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY 2025
FOR MOST PROVISIONS. AND
INCLUDING THE DEACTIVATION
REQUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUAL
DEACTIVATION'S TO BE IN EFFECT
STARTING JUNE 1st OF 2027. THIS
ALLOWS FOR ROUGHLY 2 1/2 YEARS
TO ENFORCE PROCEDURAL
REQUIREMENTS REGARDING NOTICE,
RECORDS, AND THE CHALLENGE TO
THE PROCEDURE. BUT NOT
DETERMINING SPECIFICALLY WHETHE
INDIVIDUAL DEACTIVATION'S ARE
WARRANTED OR NOT. THIS
SUBSTITUTE ALSO INCLUDES A
NON-CODIFIED SECTION REQUESTING
A REPORT BACK FROM OLS BY
SEPTEMBER OF 2026 ON THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ORDINANCE
WITH THE INTENTION OF PROVIDING
LESSONS LEARNED AND GEARING UP
FOR FULL ENFORCEMENT OF 2027.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SUBSTITUTE
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU AND I WANT A LITTL
MORE EXPLANATION OF THE POLICY
INTENT FOR THIS. WAS IT NOT THE
IN THE ORIGINAL BILL? I
UNDERSTAND SEMANTICALLY WHAT IT
DOES. BUT WHAT IS THE REAL
REASON FOR THIS CHANGE? AND I
DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE FRO
THE SPONSORS OR FROM CENTRAL
STAFF. , COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF.
>> THE BILL AS INTRODUCED HAD
CERTAIN SECTIONS REMOVED FROM
THE ENFORCEMENT SCOPE FOR THE
AGENCY. AND NOT AN EXPECTATION
THAT THERE WOULD BE ENFORCEMENT
BY THE AGENCY OF THOSE CERTAIN
PROVISIONS WITH THE INDIVIDUAL
DEACTIVATION REVIEWS. AND SO
THE SUBSTITUTE BILL REFLECTS
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE EXECUTIV
AND ALL OF US TO AMEND THAT AN
TO HAVE ENFORCEMENT OF THOSE
INDIVIDUALIZED ACTIVATIONS
COMING AT A LATER DATE FROM THE
PROCEDURAL ENFORCEMENT.
>> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING
THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THAT TH
FOCUS IS GOING TO BE ON
ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROCEDURAL
VIOLATIONS. NOT WHETHER OR NOT
SOMEONE HAS DEACTIVATED THE
BILL. OR HAS BEEN DEACTIVATED
IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WIT
POLICY OR THE BILL. BUT THIS
SUBSTITUTE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
IT ALLOWS OLS TO CONSIDER MORE
IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATIONS
TOWARDS THE BASIS OF A
DEACTIVATION AT A LATER DATE.
BUT THE FOCUS AT THIS TIME I
THINK FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND A
HALF OR 2 1/2 YEARS IS ONLY
CONSISTENT WITH THE AGREEMENTS
WITH OLS AND WHAT WE HAVE
DISCUSSED IN THE STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS. THE FOCUS FOR
ENFORCEMENT IS ONLY IN THE
PROCEDURAL ELEMENTS OF THE BILL
>> MAY HAVE FOLLOW?
>> OF COURSE.
>> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY,
THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS
WILL HAVE EVEN MORE POWER THAN
IN THE ORIGINAL VERSION. BUT IT
WOULD BE TRIGGERED AT A LATER
DATE? IS THAT ?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> OKAY. THEN DO WE HAVE
CONFIRMATION FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION THAT THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT? OR IS
THIS SOMETHING WE COULD GET
BETWEEN NOW AND FULL COUNSEL?
>> I THINK WE COULD WORK ON
THAT. THIS IS A THE OLS REQUES
TO CHANGE AND GIVEN THAT OLS IS
AN EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT OF THE
MAYOR. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS
IN ALIGNMENT THERE.
>> IT IS REFLECTIVE OF
CONVERSATIONS BUT WE DON'T HAVE
AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT. STOMACH
OKAY AND THANK YOU FOR THE
CONTEXT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SARA NELSON, I
SEE YOUR HAND IS UP.
>> I HAVE QUESTIONS ALONG THE
LINE OF COUNCILMEMBER ALEX
PEDERSEN. I DID NOT UNDERSTAND
THE RATIONALE FOR THIS AND I
WANT TO KNOW STAKEHOLDERS WERE
SPOKEN WITH? I UNDERSTAND THE
CAVEATS OF WHAT THIS ENFORCES.
HOWEVER, WHATEVER THE DIRECTOR
DOES WILL HOPEFULLY INVOLVE THE
INPUT OF STAKEHOLDERS. AND
FINALLY, WHY WAS THIS NOT AN
AMENDMENT INSTEAD OF A WHOLE
SUBSTITUTE? AND I DID GO BACK
AND FORTH AND POSE THESE
QUESTIONS TO CENTRAL STAFF OVER
THE WEEKEND. I'M JUST WANTING T
KNOW, WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE
FROM THE CHAIR NOT TO HAVE THIS
AS AN AMENDMENT. IT'S ONLY TWO
CHANGES IN THE WHOLE SUBSTITUTE
THIS SEEMS, FROM GOING FROM NO
ENFORCING TO ENFORCING IT'S A
FAIRLY BIG CHANGE THAT I'M JUS
WONDERING WHY THERE WAS NOT AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS.
>> WE ARE DISCUSSING IT NOW AND
IT'S ONLY ONE CHANGE. SO WE ARE
DISCUSSING IT WITHIN THE CONTEX
OF A SUBSTITUTE. THE DEVELOPMEN
OF THE SUBSTITUTE WAS ON MY
DIRECTION. BECAUSE I KNEW WE
WOULD BE DISCUSSING THE
CONTENTS. BUT ALSO, IT IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION
THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FO
SEVERAL MONTHS. THAT THE
ENFORCEMENT OF THIS LEGISLATIO
THE ONLY FOCUSED ON THE
PROCEDURAL ELEMENTS OF THE BILL
OLS WANTED ASSURANCES THAT
THEIR FUTURE EXPANSION TO
ENFORCE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE
BILL, DEPENDING ON THE
AVAILABILITY OF RESOURCES IN TH
FUTURE, WOULD NOT BE
CONSTRAINED. AND SO, AGAIN,
THAT WAS THE THINKING FOR USING
THIS AS A SUBSTITUTE MEASURE.
>> YOUR MENTION OF RESOURCES IS
PRECISELY ONE OF THE REASONS WH
WAS CONCERN. BECAUSE THIS IS
ALREADY GOING TO COST $1
MILLION. IN THERE IT ARE NO
CAVEATS PER THE AVAILABILITY OF
RESOURCES.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
SARA NELSON. LEGISLATION
TYPICALLY IS ACCOMPANIED WITH
FISCAL ANALYSIS. AND WE HAVE
THE FISCAL ANALYSIS ASSOCIATED
WITH THE NEAR-TERM ENFORCEMENT
OF THE ORDINANCE. AND I WOULD
EXPECT THAT IF THE ENFORCEMENT
OF THE ORDINANCE WERE TO CHANGE
IN TWO YEARS, DEPENDENT ON THE
OLS DIRECTION, THAT WE WOULD
HAVE A FISCAL ANALYSIS OF THE
CHANGE. BECAUSE BY SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL CODE, THE OFFICE OF
LABOR STANDARDS IS DIFFERENT
FROM MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF
THE CITY. IT IS EMPOWERED TO
MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS STRAIGHT T
THE COUNSEL WITHOUT HAVING TO G
THROUGH THE EXECUTIVE ABOUT
THEIR RESOURCE NEEDS PRIOR TO
THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET
PROCESS. THAT ENSURES THAT ANY
RESOURCES NECESSARY TO ENFORCE
IN THE FUTURE PROVISIONS OTHER
THAN PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS
IN THE BILL, THAT THOSE
RESOURCES WILL DEFINITELY BE
IDENTIFIED BY OLS IN ADVANCE.
>> WE OFFER THE AMENDMENT TO
COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF TO
DESCRIBE IT AS WELL. IS THERE
MOTION ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 1?
>> I MOVE AMENDMENT 1 TO THE
UNDERLYING BILL.
>> THANK YOU AND I SECOND ED.
>> COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF, CAN
YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE AMENDMENT
NUMBER 1? WHICH I BELIEVE IS
SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER LEWI
AND I.
>> YES. I WILL ALSO NOTE FOR
THE RECORD THAT THIS AMENDMENT
ACTUALLY DOES HAVE AN
ALTERNATIVE AS WELL. AMENDMENT
B THAT WAS CIRCULATED LAST
NIGHT. WHICH I WILL ALSO SPEAK
TO AND SHARE. FIRST UP, WE DO
HAVE A MOMENT 1. THIS AMENDMENT
PROVIDES THE DEFINITION OF
DEACTIVATION TO ALLOW FOR
TEMPORARY SUSPENSIONS DUE TO
REASONS UNRELATED TO THE
APP-BASED WORKERS ACTIONS. THIS
INCLUDES WHEN THE PLATFORM IS
UNAVAILABLE, DUE TO
TECHNOLOGICAL OR MAINTENANCE
ISSUES, OR INCREMENT WEATHER,
ENDANGERING THE SAFETY OF A
APP-BASED WORKER IN PERFORMING
SERVICES IN SEATTLE. IN THESE
INSTANCES, THE NETWORK COMPANY
IS NOT REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE
DEACTIVATION REQUIREMENTS IN TH
BILL. SUCH AS ADVANCE NOTICE AN
PROVISION OF RECORDS AND THE
INTERNAL CHALLENGE PROCEDURE.
UNTIL THEY WERE FORMALLY
DEACTIVATED. AMENDMENT 1 B
SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON , INCLUDES THE SAME
PROVISIONS BUT ALSO INCLUDES AN
ALLOWANCE FOR 48-HOUR TEMPORAR
SUSPENSION. TO DETERMINE WHETHE
THE APP-BASED WORKER HAS
COMMITTED EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE
DESCRIPTION OF BOTH AMENDMENTS.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL ASK FOR
THE SPEAKERS TO SPEAK FIRST TW
AMENDMENT 1. COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK
TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 1?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR LIS
HERBOLD. THIS AMENDMENT
CLARIFIES THAT IN CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES, A DEACTIVATION
CAN OCCUR. IF THERE ARE ACTS
OUT OF ANYONE'S CONTROL. A
NATURAL DISASTER OR AN EXTREME
WITH A MIC EVENT OR OTHER SUCH
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WOULD WARRAN
TEMPORARILY, FOR A BRIEF PERIOD
OF TIME, DEACTIVATING THOSE
APP-BASED SERVICES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS. THIS
AMENDMENT WAS DRAFTED IN
RESPONSE TO FEEDBACK THAT WE
RECEIVED FROM SOME OF THE
APP-BASED PLATFORMS. IT ALLOWS
FOR PLATFORMS TO TEMPORARILY
SUSPEND ACCOUNTS FOR UP TO 48
HOURS AT A TIME. FOR REASONS
LIKE NETWORK OUTAGES, INCREMENT
WEATHER, AND ROUTINE MAINTENANC
OF THE PLATFORMS. COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A
GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK TO
THIS AMENDMENT 1 B. I BELIEVE
THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU HAD
INDICATED THAT YOU WERE PULLING
EARLY ON. BUT THAT YOU STILL
WANT TO SPEAK.
>> YES. I WENT BACK AND FORTH.
ANYWAY. I WANT TO BE CLEAR FIRS
OF ALL THAT I DO NOT SEE THESE
AS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. I PLAN T
SUPPORT 1A AND 1 B. I JUST FEEL
THAT THIS IS MORE OF AN
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. NOT
NECESSARILY IN OPPOSITION. THE
MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS
AMENDMENT AND 1A IS THAT THIS
ONE ALLOWS FOR TEMPORARY
SUSPENSION UP TO 48 HOURS TO
VERIFY THE BASIS OF ALLEGED
MISCONDUCT. USURY FROM A
CUSTOMER, BUT ALSO IT COULD BE
FROM A RESTAURANT OR STORE
OWNER. A COWORKER OR SOMEONE IN
MANAGEMENT OF THE NETWORK
COMPANY ITSELF. THIS BENEFITS
THE WORKER, AND CASES OF ALLEGE
MISCONDUCT THAT WOULD OTHERWISE
BE DEACTIVATED IMMEDIATELY.
THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE
SOMETIMES A COMPLAINT IS
EXAGGERATED OR FALSE AND
SUSPENSIONS GIVE COMPANIES TIME
TO QUICKLY CHECK THE BASIC FACT
AND ALSO ENABLES THE WORKER TO
PROVIDE CONTEXTUAL INFORMATION.
RECEIPTS AND OTHER EVIDENCE
WHICH PROVES THAT THERE WAS NO
MALICIOUS INTENT OR THAT THE
MISCONDUCT DID NOT OCCUR AT ALL
I COULD GIVE AN EXAMPLE. BUT I
THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WOULD
JUST BASICALLY SAY THAT THIS IS
STANDARD PRACTICE AMONGST
EMPLOYERS IN MOST WORKPLACES.
BECAUSE THE HR PERSON DOES NOT
IMMEDIATELY PROCEED WITH THE
TERMINATION WITHOUT TRYING TO
VERIFY THE CHARGES. BECAUSE THE
DON'T WANT TO ACT ON RUMOR OR
THEY RECOGNIZE THERE ARE TWO
SIDES TO EVERY STORY. AND SO, I
JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE
ADVOCATES WOULD NOT WANT TO
SPARE WORKERS FROM GETTING
DEACTIVATED OR BEING BARRED FRO
THE PLATFORM FOR LONGER THAN IS
ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. TO CHECK
SOME BASIC FACTS. THE ONLY THIN
I CAN THINK OF IS THAT MAYBE
THERE IS SOME INTEREST IN
OBTAINING THE RECORDS THAT ARE
PRODUCED DURING THE DEACTIVATIO
PHASE. OR IF THERE IS A
CHALLENGE, A DEACTIVATION
CHALLENGE. BUT I DO BELIEVE THI
MAKES SENSE AND BENEFITS THE
WORKER BY NOT BARRING ACCESS TO
THE PLATFORM BEEN FOR LONGER
THAN IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
SPEWING THANK YOU AND GO AHEAD.
STOMACH THE SECOND CHANGE AND
THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE BAS
LEGISLATION THAT IS INCLUDED IN
MY AMENDMENT IS INTENTIONALLY.
THAT WAS REQUESTED AS YOU NOTED
BY THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND
RECOGNITION THAT THINGS CAN GO
WRONG WITH THE APP THAT ARE NO
IN THE CONTROL OF THE NETWORK
COMPANY OR NOT BASED ON THE
CONDUCT OF THE WORKER. THAT IS
ALREADY COVERED IN YOURS. AND
THEN FINALLY, I WILL STOP
THERE. GO AHEAD. I WANT TO GIV
YOU A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
>> SHARE. ON SUNDAY, I
UNDERSTOOD FROM YOUR
COMMUNICATION WITH COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF THAT WAS ALSO
INTENDED FOR MY CONSUMPTION AS
WELL, ACCORDING TO YOUR EMAIL.
HE SAID HE HAD HEARD FROM ROVE
AND TASK RABBIT, THAT THEY WERE
VYING FOR DROPPING THE REQUEST
FOR TEMPORARY SUSPENSION BASED
ON MISCONDUCT. HE WOULD SPEAK T
THE POLICY BUT NOT MOVE IT. CAN
YOU CLARIFY YOUR INTENT TODAY
FOR THIS AMENDMENT?
>> I AM MOVING 1 B, PLEASE.
>> OKAY. SO I GUESS I WOULD
REFER TO GO BACK TO COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF TO DETERMINE.
UNDERSTAND THERE IS AN
ADDITIONAL ELEMENT IN 1 B THAT
IS NOT IN 1 A. BUT I DO BELIEVE
THAT AS DRAFTED THAT THEY ARE
CURRENTLY MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
BECAUSE OF HOW THEY ARE DRAFTED
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> ARE YOU ASKING ME OR CENTRAL
STAFF?
>> I AM JUST TAKING A MOMENT TO
THINK ABOUT HOW I WILL RESPOND.
I THINK THAT 1A AND 1 B HAS
ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS TO 1A THAT
ARE NOT DIRECTLY CONFLICTING.
SO, THEY ARE TWO ALTERNATIVES.
AND SO, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT YOU
COULD VOTE ON 1A AND VOTE ON
ONE BEE THAT WOULD LAYER ON TOP
OF 1A.
>> OKAY. THAT IS HELPFUL. JUST
ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR COUNSEL
CENTRAL STAFF ABOUT THE CONTEN
OF AMENDMENT 1 B. TO RESPOND T
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S QUESTION
OF, WOULD THIS NOT GIVE MORE
CERTAINTY TO DEACTIVATED
WORKERS? IF THERE WAS AN
ABILITY TO PARS FOR CONDUCT,
ISN'T THAT WHAT THE 14 B
TIMELINE IS FOR IN THE
REQUIREMENT FOR DEACTIVATION?
ISN'T THAT ALREADY EMBEDDED IN
THE ORDINANCE?
>> WHAT IS IN THE BILL CURRENTL
IS IF THERE'S EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT ALLEGED HIM IN THE
COMPANY CAN DEACTIVATE
IMMEDIATELY BUT THE HAVE TO
PROVIDE A NOTICE OF DEACTIVATIO
THAT EXPLAINS THE REASONS FOR
DEACTIVATION AND THE
SUBSTANTIATION FOR IT AND ALLOW
FOR THE WORKER TO UNDERGO THE
CHALLENGE PROCEDURE. AND, THIS
TEMPORARY SUSPENSION, AND MY
UNDERSTANDING, THE TEMPORARY
SUSPENSION WOULD NOT TRIGGER
THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO DEPENDS
ON HOW YOU DISTINGUISH
SUSPENSION FROM DEACTIVATION.
>> MEANING IT HAS A DIFFERENT
EFFECT DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR
NOT THE DEACTIVATION IS BASED
ON EGREGIOUS VIOLATIONS OR
ANOTHER TYPE?
>> RIGHT. AND ALSO, IF THERE'S
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT SUSPECTED
1 B WERE TO GO INTO EFFECT,
THERE WOULD BE A 48 HOUR
SUSPENSION IF THE COMPANY DID
DETERMINE THAT THERE WAS
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT AND THERE
WOULD STILL BE THAT 14 DAY
ABILITY FOR THE WORKER TO APPEA
AFTER 14 DAYS AND ALSO CURRENTL
10 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE
INVESTIGATION AFTER THE 48
HOURS. ATTENTIVELY THERE IS AN
ADDITIONAL TIMELINE AT THE FRON
END.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, DO YOU
HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON 1 B
>> OKAY. THERE IS ANOTHER
CHANGE, WHICH IS THE LAST
SENTENCE. AND IT SAYS SOMETHING
ABOUT THE LANGUAGE STATING THAT
ACTIVATION CANNOT BE REVERSED B
THE WORKER. HOW COULD THEY BE?
I'M JUST NOTICING AN EMAIL
EXCHANGE . AND I WOULD LIKE TO
STRIKE THAT FROM MY AMENDMENT.
ESSENTIALLY, THE TEMPORARY
SUSPENSION OF 48 HOURS DOES
PROTECT THE WORKER THAT HAS BEE
ACCUSED OF EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT
IT ALLOWS THEM TO WORK FOR THE
TIME IN WHICH THERE IS A
CHALLENGE. AND IF THE
DEACTIVATION IS FINALLY
RESOLVED, SO THAT MAKES SENSE.
YOURS IDENTIFIES INTENTIONAL.
SO I WILL MAINTAIN THAT IN MIND
AND HIS PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO
VOTE FOR BOTH. I'M REMOVING THE
PART ABOUT THE LAST SENTENCE
WHICH READS , LET'S SEE.
CENTRAL STAFF, COULD YOU PLEASE
READ THE FINAL THIRD CHANGE IN
THE AMENDMENT?
>> COUNCILMEMBER, ARE YOU
REFERRING TO THE ADDITION THAT
THAT CANNOT BE REVERSED OF THE
DISCRETION OF THE APP-BASED
WORKER? THE AMENDMENT WOULD NOT
INCLUDE THAT ADDITION?
>> YES. BECAUSE THAT IS
SUPERFLUOUS. I DON'T KNOW HOW
THE SOFTWARE WORKS IN THESE
PLATFORMS BUT IT DOES SEEM AS
THOUGH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
MECHANICS WOULD BE FOR WORKER T
RIVERS A DEACTIVATION WITHOUT
THE AGREEMENT OF THE NETWORK
COMPANY. THAT IS A TECHNICAL
ISSUE THAT I DO NOT FULLY
UNDERSTAND AND SO I WOULD LIKE
TO REMOVE THAT. IT IS NOT AS
IMPORTANT AS THE 48 HOUR
SUSPENSION.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF CONTACTED
ME LAST NIGHT TO RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST THAT WE NOT DO
AMENDMENTS ON THE FLY HERE IN
COMMITTEE. I WOULD PREFER AND
DEFER TO COUNSEL CENTRAL
STAFF'S REQUEST THAT WE VOTE O
THE AMENDMENT AS DISTRIBUTED.
AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IF TH
AMENDMENT SUCCEEDS, WE CAN TALK
ABOUT HOW TO ADJUST IT LATER
AFTER THIS MEETING.
>> OKAY.
>> AND SO WITH THAT IF THERE AR
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE HAVE
AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 BEFORE US.
AND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND. WITH THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL ROLL ?
>> EXCUSE ME. SORRY. ARE WE
GOING TO VOTE ON AMENDMENT 1 B?
WE ARE? SO THEY'RE NOT MUTUALL
EXCLUSIVE?
>> WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THE
MOTION AND THE SECOND AND WE HA
A CONVERSATION ABOUT AMENDMENT
1. WE ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION
ABOUT ALTERNATE AMENDMENT B
THAT IS NOT INTERNALLY
INCONSISTENT. SO WILL WILL HEAR
AMENDMENT B AFTERWARDS. BUT
RIGHT NOW WE WILL MOVE FORWARD
ON THE AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR
RIGHT NOW.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MR. CLERK.
>> [ ROLL CALL ] .
>> PLEASE CLARIFY. WE VOTING O
1A OR 1 B AT THIS POINT?
>> I THINK IT IS NOTED AS 1
BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT YOUR
SECOND VERSION OF THE AMENDMENT
WAS WITHDRAWN. BUT FOR PURPOSES
OF ALL OF OUR UNDERSTANDING,
THIS IS AMENDMENT 1A.
SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER LEWI
AND MYSELF.
>>
>> [ ROLL CALL ] .
>> FIVE YES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW,
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, IF YOU
LIKE TO GET AMENDMENT 1 B IN
FRONT OF US.
>> I'M OF AMENDMENT 1 B.
>> IS THERE ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT 1 B?
>> A REAL-LIFE EXAMPLE COULD B
IF YOU OWN A HOUSE PAINTING
COMPANY AND ONE OF YOUR CLIENTS
POSTS ON NEXT OR SOMETHING LIK
THAT THAT A MEMBER OF YOUR
COMPANY'S GROUP AND GIVES THE
NAME OF JOHN THAT STOLE A PIECE
OF JEWELRY DURING A JOB. IT IS
HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT YOU WILL G
OUT TO TRY TO FIRE JOHN. WHAT
YOU WILL DO IS YOU WILL VERIFY
THAT JOHN WAS ACTUALLY WORKING
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THIS
PERSON IS POSTING FROM. AND
ASKED SOME QUESTIONS TO THE
CLIENT IF THEY'RE IN YOUR CLIEN
LIST. ABOUT WHAT WAS THE OBJECT
ETC.? DID YOU FILE A POLICE
REPORT? THAT TAKE SOME TIME. AN
ALSO YOU TALK TO THE EMPLOYEE.
WHAT TIMES WE THERE ETC.? THIS
IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE THAT COULD
TAKE A DAY AND A HALF TO GET
THIS INFORMATION. BUT IT WAS
SIMPLY ALLOW FOR THE CONFLICT
TO BE RESOLVED. HOPEFULLY RATHE
THAN LATER. AND OFTENTIMES, THE
CHARGE ENDS UP GOING AWAY. THI
CUSTOMER FOR EXAMPLE COULD CALL
UP AND SAY, WAIT, I FOUND THE
RING. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE
SOME CONTEXT FOR WHY A TEMPORAR
SUSPENSION WOULD BE PREFERABLE
THAN JUST DEACTIVATING.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY
APPRECIATE UNDERSTANDING THE
INTENT OF THIS AMENDMENT. BUT
JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT
THERE IS NOTHING THAT REQUIRES
PLATFORM TO EXERCISE THEIR
RIGHTS TO A DEACTIVATION FOR
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT ON DAY ONE
BEFORE COLLECTING ANY
INFORMATION.
>> IT DEPENDS ON THE SERIOUSNES
OF THE MISCONDUCT.
>> UNDERSTOOD. BUT THERE IS NO
AN OBLIGATION TO ACT ON THE
SERIOUSNESS OF THIS MISCONDUCT
ON DAY ONE. THEY CAN BUT THEY
ARE NOT REQUIRED TO. IF THEY
FEEL LIKE THERE IS A NEED FOR
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THEY CA
CERTAINLY COLLECT THAT
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEFORE
DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO DO A
DEACTIVATION. I AM JUST
EXPLAINING MY THINKING FOR MY
POSITION BEFORE WE CALL THE
VOTE.
>> THANK YOU AND I FIRST WISH
HAD HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME
AT THIS AMENDMENT. BUT I
UNDERSTAND THAT WE WERE GETTIN
A LOT OF STUFF IN UNDER THE
WIRE. INCLUDING SOME AMENDMENTS
FROM MYSELF. I AM INCLINED TO
MAYBE CONTINUE TO THINK AROUND
THIS ISSUE. BETWEEN NOW AND TH
JULY 11th COMMITTEE MEETING. I
THINK FOR NOW , MY INITIAL
REACTION IS THAT IF THERE IS
SUSPICION OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT THAT IT COULD, UNDE
THE ORDINANCE, JUST LEAD TO A
SUSPENSION OR A DEACTIVATION.
DON'T THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO
BE A 48-HOUR KIND OF
INVESTIGATION PERIOD. THE
STANDARD IS NOT REALLY THAT
ONEROUS IF THERE SUSPENSION OF
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT. MY
INCLINATION IS TO VOTE NO ON
THIS TODAY BUT CONTINUE TO THIN
ABOUT IT UNTIL THE 11th. I HAV
NOT DISCUSSED DISCUSSED THIS
PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH ANY
STAKEHOLDERS. BUT I DO PUBLIC
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IN THE
PLATFORM COMMUNITY, WHO ARE
INTERESTED IN THIS PARTICULAR
ISSUE, TO CONTACT ME TO TALK
ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AN
GIVEN THAT I HAVE ONLY HAD A FE
HOURS TO REVIEW THIS AND HAVE
NOT BEEN ABLE TO BROUGHT A
CHICKEN WITH FOLKS, TODAY I WIL
VOTE NO.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS. IF THERE ARE NO COMMENT
OR QUESTIONS, WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> ONE LAST THING. I APPRECIATE
COME TO MEMBER LEWIS HIS
WILLINGNESS TO CONSIDER AND
PERHAPS WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS
OR MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER GUIDIN
IT LATER BEFORE THE FINAL VOTE.
I HAVE LEARNED THAT WORKERS
DO NOT LOSE ACCESS TO THE
PLATFORM DURING THE SUSPENSION.
ACCORDING TO INSTA CART AND
TASK RABBIT. THAT ALLOWS THEM T
KEEP WORKING AND GET AN INCOME
AS WELL. INSTEAD OF JUST GETTIN
BLANKET DEACTIVATED IMMEDIATELY
FOR A CHARGE OF ALLEGED
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE
APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION AN
LOOK FORWARD TO THE ONGOING
CONVERSATION. NOW THE CLERK AND
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ON THE
ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT B. ,
COUNCILMEMBER TERESA MOSQUEDA.
VICE CHAIR ANDREW LEWIS. CHAI
LISA HERBOLD. TWO YES AND THRE
NO.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CLERK. THE
MOTION CARRIES. THE AMENDMENT
AND THE MOTION FAILS AND THE
AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. NOW
WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
AMENDMENT. WE HAVE AMENDMENTS
TO ADD AND 2B AND 2 C. AGAIN,
THESE ARE THREE MUTUALL
EXCLUSIVE AMENDMENTS LISTED ON
THE AGENDA. AMENDMENT TO ADD
AND 2B. COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS AN
MYSELF ARE WITHDRAWING THE
AMENDMENT. MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON
WISHES TO STILL SPEAK TO
AMENDMENT 2B. BUT BASED ON WHA
WE SAID AT THE START OF THIS
MEETING, YOU ARE STILL NOT
MOVING IT FORWARD. BUT WE WILL
DEFINITELY MAKE SOME TIME TO
SPEAK TO IT. AS WE ARE GETTING
SOME OF THE PROCEDURAL ELEMENTS
IN FRONT OF US. AND TAKEN CARE
OF. AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT WE
HAVE A MOTION FOR AMENDMENT 2
C.
>>
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NOW WE HAVE AMENDMENT 2 C.
MOVED AND SECONDED. COULD
COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF SPEAK TO
THIS AMENDMENT? AND THEN WE WIL
MAKE TIME TO HEAR FROM
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ABOUT
AMENDMENT B.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I AM A CENTRAL STAFF.
I AM GOING TO EXPLAIN AMENDMENT
2 C VERSION 2-3 SPONSORED BY
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON. THIS
AMENDMENT BROADENED THE
DEFINITION OF EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT AS FOLLOWS. IT ADDS
TO THE DEFINITION THAT ACTIONS
OR BEHAVIORS THAT ENDANGER THE
PHYSICAL SAFETY OF A NETWORK
COMPANY OR AN ANIMAL. ACTIONS
THAT WOULD ALSO ADD ACTIONS OR
BEHAVIORS THAT ARE THREATENING,
HARASSING, OR ABUSIVE TO THE
CUSTOMER, THE THIRD PARTY, OR
THE NETWORK COMPANY. AND WE
WOULD ADD SPECIFIC CRIMINAL
OFFENSES SUCH AS KIDNAPPING,
MONEY LAUNDERING AND SEPARATE
CRIMES. WILL ADD RACIAL SLURS
AND ANIMAL CRUELTY AND AS AN
UMBRELLA CATCHALL CATEGORY WIT
OTHER CONDUCT THAT CONSTITUTES
CLASS E FELONY UNDER STATE LAW.
THAT IS TOTAL 9 AND 9 A.
>> THANK YOU.
>> IT CONTINUES. THE AMENDMENT
ALSO REQUIRES A NETWORK COMPANY
TO PROVE THAT THE CONDOR GROUP
DIRECTLY RELATES TO THE
APP-BASED WORKERS FITNESS TO
PROVIDE SERVICES ON A
PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE
WHICH IS A LOWER STANDARD THAN
THE INTRODUCED ORDINANCE. IN
EFFECT, THAT AMENDMENT INCLUDE
SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TYPES OF
CONDUCT THEN THE DEFINITION AN
LOWERS EVIDENTIARY STANDARD FOR
SHOWING THAT IT RELATES TO THE
WORKERS ABILITY TO DO THE WORK.
AND WE WILL CREATE SOME SPACE
FOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON TO
SPEAK TO AMENDMENT 2B.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR LISA HERBOL
AND THANKS TO CENTRAL STAFF FOR
THEIR WORK ON THIS AMENDMENT.
LOOKS A LOT OF US HAD A SIMILAR
IDEA TO EXPAND THE DEFINITION O
WHAT WE ARE REFERRING TO IN THI
LEGISLATION AS EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT. AND SO, AS CENTRAL
STAFF HAS POINTED OUT, THERE
WILL BE SEVERAL ITEMS INSERTED
INTO HERE. AND SO I DON'T NEED
TO REPEAT THOSE. BUT WE DID
HEAR FROM MANY CONSTITUENTS THA
WANTED TO EXPLAIN ONE OF THEM.
WE WANTED PROTECTION FOR PARTS.
WE ARE SURE THAT WAS THE INTEN
BUT WE WANTED TO GET IT INTO TH
LANGUAGE HERE. THIS VERSION
INCORPORATES GOOD WORK AND GOOD
IDEAS FROM THE AMENDMENTS WE SA
WITH 1A AND 1 B THAT WAS
PUBLISHED ONLINE PREVIOUSLY. WE
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS IS
EXPENDED DEFINITION OF EGREGIOU
MISCONDUCT.
>> EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT AND W
DO RECOGNIZE THAT EMOTIONAL
WELL-BEING IS IMPERFECT AND
INEXACT THAT A VAGUE TERM. BUT
IT DOES CAPTURE CONDUCT THAT I
NOT CAPTURED IN THIS THAT DOES
NOT RELATE TO THE PHYSICAL
SAFETY. BUT DOES CAUSE DISTRES
AND COULD CAUSE REPUTATIONAL
HARM. CONSIDERS A SMALL
BUSINESS OWNER WITH CUSTOMER
SERVICE THAT IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT. WITH THE ALIGNMENT
WITH THE EGREGIOUS, ALONG WITH
THE PREVIOUS RULE WHICH READS I
PART THE EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT
IS DEFINED AS A BOARD OR WRONG
ACTION OR BEHAVIOR THAT
ENDANGERS THE PHYSICAL,
EMOTIONAL, OR ECONOMIC
WELL-BEING OR SAFETY OF THE
CONSUMER, OR INDIVIDUALS
AFFILIATED WITH THE BUSINESS,
IF THAT PERSON, OR NETWORK
COMPANY. I'M TRYING TO NOT
TRYING TO ALIGN WITH THE A BOAR
RON HELLER. BUT THAT IS THE
PRESIDENT OR THE ALIGNMENT THAT
I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN. I DO
SUPPORT COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON'
AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT DOES
CAPTURE WHAT I WAS MEETING IN
EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING. THANK YOU
>> FANTASTIC. GREAT TO HEAR. I
WAS SIGNALED IN THE PUBLISHED
AGENDA, COUNCILMEMBER ANDREW
LEWIS AND I ALSO SPONSORED AN
ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT BUT WE
DECIDED TO WITHDRAW HOURS IN
SUPPORT OF HIS AMENDMENT. AND
THEY ARE EXPANDING EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT THAT ALLOWS FOR
IMMEDIATE SUSPENSION OF COUNT
PENDING FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
WILL NOTE THAT IN ALL VERSIONS
OF AMENDMENT 2 AND IN THE
ORIGINAL BILL LANGUAGE, THE
EXAMPLES LISTED ARE EXAMPLES.
THE DIRECTOR OF OLS MAY DECIDE
TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL EXAMPLES
OF EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT AND
RULEMAKING. THE BILL ITSELF IS
NOT MEANT TO CONTAIN A DEFINITE
FINAL LIST. THAT SPEAKS TO THE
IMPORTANCE OF ENGAGEMENT DURING
THE RULEMAKING PROCESS. ALSO
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT THAT IS
BEHAVIOR THAT ALLOWS THE BYPASS
TO THE NOTICE OF PROCEDURE OF
DEACTIVATION. MANY OF THE THING
THAT WE HAVE HEARD DURING PUBLI
COMMENT OF BEHAVIORS THAT SHOUL
ALLOW COMPANIES TO DEACTIVATE A
WORKERS COUNT THEY DO ALLOW
COMPANIES TO DO SO. THERE'S A
VERY SPECIFIC LIST OF REASONS
DEEMED NOT TO BE REASONABLE
POLICIES. AND SO THE INTENT OF
THE REQUIREMENT TO DEVELOP
REASONABLE POLICIES FOR GENERAL
DEACTIVATION IS VERY SEPARATE
FROM THE INTENT OF THIS
EGREGIOUS DEACTIVATION POLICY.
WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE MORE.
AND GIVEN THAT THERE IS A LOT
OF COLLABORATION ON THIS
PARTICULAR AMENDMENT, I WILL
VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS VERSION O
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN'S
AMENDMENT. WE APPRECIATE THE
COLLABORATION AS WELL WITH
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND THINGS
TO COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN
FOR WORKING WITH OUR OFFICES ON
FINALIZING THE AMENDMENT
TOGETHER. AND SO WE ARE STILL
ON AMENDMENT 2 C AND JUST
PAUSING FOR A MOMENT TO SEE IF
THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS ON 2 C. IF NOT, WE AR
READY TO VOTE ON AMENDMENTS 2
C. WE HAVE THE MOTION AND THE
SECOND. PLEASE CALL ROLE.
>> [ ROLL CALL ].
>> FOUR YES AND ONE NOW.
>> THANK YOU AND THE MOTION
CARRIES. THE AMENDMENT IS
ADOPTED. WE CAN MOVE ONTO THE
NEXT AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT 3.
NEXT UP IS AMENDMENT 3. THIS TH
MOTION FOR AMENDMENT 3.
>> I MOVE AMENDMENT 3.
>> I SECOND AMENDMENT 3. THE
STAFF COULD PLEASE DESCRIBE THE
AMENDMENT?
>> YES. THIS AMENDMENT CLARIFIE
THAT A NETWORK COMPANY CANNOT
DETERMINE THE A APP-BASED WORKE
ENGAGED IN EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT
FOR NONCRIMINAL MOVING
VIOLATIONS UNLESS THE APP-BASED
WORKER HAS ACCUMULATED MORE THA
THREE SMALL ACCIDENTS OR
NONCRIMINAL MOVING VIOLATIONS I
THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS. IT
ALSO ADDS REFERENCES TO CRIMINA
MOVING VIOLATIONS AS EXAMPLES O
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT. REPLACING
SOME OF THE SPECIFIC REFERENCES
TO THE CRIMINAL MOVING
VIOLATIONS LISTED.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SPEAK TO AMENDMENT 3?
>> YES. THIS AMENDMENT CAME OU
OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS ON THE
UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. TO MAK
SURE THAT WE CLARIFIED THE SCOP
OF MOVING VIOLATIONS THAT WOUL
BE RELEVANT AND EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT THAT COULD WARRANT
THE DEACTIVATION. WE WANTED TO
MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS NOT BROA
ENOUGH DESCRIPTION OR THAT IT
MIGHT INCLUDE FAIRLY MINOR
CONDUCT LIKE PARKING TICKETS OR
THINGS THAT MAY NOT PERTAIN TO
SAFETY, HEALTH, AND WELFARE OF
THE COMMUNITY. BUT LIMITED TO A
SUBSET OF MOVING VIOLATIONS
THAT WOULD BE CONCERNING.
PARTICULARLY FOR APP-BASED WORK
THAT IS VEHICLE DIRECTED.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS. AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE
FOR THE RECORD THAT THIS WAS AN
AMENDMENT THAT WAS REALLY
IMPORTANT TO THE MEMBERS OF
DRIVE FORWARD. AND ALSO SUPPOR
THIS AMENDMENT . WE WILL TAKE A
PAUSE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR
NOT THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT.
NOT SEEING ANY IN PERSON OR
VIRTUAL RAISED HANDS , AMENDMEN
NUMBER 3 HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED. PLEASE CALL ROLE ON
THE ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT 3.
STARTED BY COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS
AND MYSELF.
>> [ ROLL CALL ] FIVE YES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE MOTIO
CARRIES ON AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED
WILL NOT MOVE ON TO AMENDMENT
NUMBER 4. AND NEXT UP IS
AMENDMENT NUMBER 4. IS THERE A
MOTION TO SUPPORT AMENDMENT
NUMBER 4?
>> I MOVE AMENDMENT 4.
>> IS THERE A SECOND?
>> VERY GOOD. WE HAVE THE MOTIO
AND THE SECOND. COULD THE
COUNCIL STAFF PLEASE DESCRIBE
THE AMENDMENT?
>> INCREASING THE THRESHOLD FOR
APP-BASED WORKER COVERAGE FROM
10% OF COMPLETED OFFERS OR
OFFERS IN SEATTLE. OF THE PAST
180 DAYS TO 50% OF COMPLETED
OFFERS IN SEATTLE OVER THE PAST
180 DAYS AND EXCLUDING OFFERS
CANCELED WITH THE'S FROM THE
THRESHOLD CALCULATION.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> SOME WOULD ARGUE THAT OUR
REGULATION SHOULD ONLY COVER
PEOPLE LIVING AND WORKING IN
SEATTLE. SOME WOULD SAY THAT I
SHOULD BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT. 50
SEEMS A GOOD COMPROMISE. BUT I
DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOING TO
THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT
IT IS PICKING SOMETHING
ARBITRARY THAT WE WANTED TO LOO
AT THE PREVIOUS LABOR LAWS THA
WE HAVE. 10% DOES SEEM
ARBITRARY. WHEN WE ASK CENTRAL
STUFF WAS THE BASIS FOR 10%, I
DID NOT GET A GOOD ANSWER.
PERHAPS YOU KNOW BUT THEY DID
NOT. SO I AM GOING WITH 50%
THAT IS MORE SUPPORTED BY
PREVIOUS ACTIONS. AND LET ME
JUST SAY THAT FOR THE VIEWING
PUBLIC, I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAI
HOW THIS WOULD ACTUALLY PLAY
OUT IN REAL LIFE. THIS
BASICALLY SAYS THAT ANYONE WIT
THE BELLEVUE BASED WORKER WHO
HAS COMPLETED FOR EXAMPLE, 36
DELIVERIES IN BELLEVUE AND HAS
BEEN DEACTIVATED FOR CONDUCT.
WHILE ON DELIVERY FROM BELLEVUE
AND HAS COMPLETED FOUR
DELIVERIES WORKING IN SEATTLE.
THEY WILL BE COVERED BY THIS.
ESSENTIALLY WE ARE QUITTING
EMPLOYMENT LAW FOR WORKERS IN
NEIGHBORING CITIES WHICH IS
LIKELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL AS
SEATTLE IS NOT REALLY AUTHORIZE
TO REGULATE CONDUCT OUTSIDE OF
CITY LIMITS. EXCEPT FOR
INCIDENTAL. WE HAVE TO CAVEAT
THAT BY SAYING WE WERE NOT ABLE
TO TALK TO LAUREN AND THERE WER
A LOT OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAV
NOT DUG INTO THE LEGALITY OF
THIS.
>> THE JUMPSTART I BELIEVE WIT
THIS LEGISLATION THAT DOES
REQUIRE THAT COMPANIES PAY ON
BEHALF OF WORKERS WHO MIGHT LIV
OUTSIDE OF SEATTLE AND PERFORM
THEIR WORK AT LEAST 50% INSIDE
THE CITY LIMITS FOR EXAMPLE.
AND THERE IS ANOTHER STATUTE
THAT ALREADY ESTABLISHES 50% AS
THE FAIR CHANCE EMPLOYMENT
ORDINANCE. THEY SAY THE
ORDINANCE AND THE CHAPTER IS TH
SERVICE IN WHOLE OR SUBSTANTIA
PART. AT LEAST 50% OF THE TIME
WITHIN THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIE
OF THE CITY. TO SECURE
SCHEDULING ORDINANCES PUT ALON
WITH THE PURPOSES OF THE
COVERED EMPLOYEES UNDER THIS
CHAPTER THAT IS LIMITED TO THOS
WHO PROVIDE SUCH EMPLOYMENT
SERVICES IN A PHYSICAL LOCATION
THAT IS WHEN THE GEOGRAPHIC
BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY AT LEAST
50% OF THE TIME. AND IN THE
INTEREST OF SAVING TIME, I WILL
SIMPLY SAY THAT 50% IS A MORE
REASONABLE AND SUPPORTED BY
PREVIOUS STATUTE AMOUNT AND
PROPORTION OF TIME THAT A WORKE
SHOULD BE DELIVERING OR WORKIN
IN SEATTLE, TO BE COVERED BY
THIS ORDINANCE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON. SO WE MAY BE OPENING I
UP FOR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS
FROM OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS. TO
GET OUR THINKING OF THE RECORD
HERE. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT
YOU HAVE PROVIDED OTHER EXAMPLE
OF WHERE THE ELIGIBILITY
THRESHOLD WAS HIGHER. WE HAVE
MODELED THIS PARTICULAR
LEGISLATION IN MANY WAYS ON
THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK
COMPANY LEGISLATION. WHICH HAS
A 10% THRESHOLD. AND THE REASON
IS THAT THESE REGULATIONS ARE
VERY DIFFERENT FROM SOME THE
LARGE REGULATIONS THAT YOU REFE
TO IN YOUR REMARKS. WORKERS
DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE
JOBS THAT ARE OFFERED THEM AND
IT MAKES IT A VERY HIGH
THRESHOLD. THAT IS UNFAIR AND
SUSCEPTIBLE TO ABUSE BY THE
ALGORITHMS THAT KEEP WORKERS
BELOW A THRESHOLD. FOR EXAMPLE
BY SENDING WORKERS WHO MAY BE
APPROACHING 50% ONLY TWO JOBS
OUTSIDE OF SEATTLE. AGAIN, WE
ARE TRYING TO REALLY RECOGNIZE
THE GOOD POLICY THAT WAS
ESTABLISHED WITH THE TNC
LEGISLATION. AND FOR POLICY
RELATED REASONS. FOR KEEPING
THE THRESHOLD AT 10%. AND THAT
MAKES THE BEST SENSE. I WILL
NOT BE VOTING IN SUPPORT OF THI
AMENDMENT. AND DEFINITELY AGAIN
I APPRECIATE AND VALUE YOUR
ENGAGEMENT ON THESE POLICIES.
>> IT JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF
THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
>> WAS THE BASIS FOR THE 10%?
THAT WAS REGULATION THAT PASSED
BEFORE I WAS HERE.
>> AND THE BASIS IS JUST WHAT I
MENTIONED. THERE IS A HIGH
SUSCEPTIBILITY IN THIS WORK
MODEL. FOR ABUSE BY THE
ALGORITHMS TO KEEP FOLKS BELOW
A HIGHER THRESHOLD WHEN THE
THRESHOLD IS SO LOW AND IT
MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR TH
ALGORITHMS TO ONLY GIVE PEOPLE
BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF
SEATTLE. WHILE ALSO ENSURING
THAT THE HAVE AN ADEQUATE
WORKFORCE FOR THE CITY THE CITY
OF SEATTLE.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT BUT WE'RE
NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT COMPANIE
THAT USE ALGORITHMS. THIS DOES
APPLY TO ALL COMPANIES. THAT
MAY OR MAY NOT. IT IS
PARTICULARLY CONCERNING WITH
MARKETPLACE NETWORK COMPANIES
WHERE WORK IS PERFORMED IN MOR
INSIDE THE HOME, LET'S JUST
SAY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, ARE
THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS O
QUESTIONS ON THIS AMENDMENT?
SEEING NONE, THANK YOU. WITH TH
CLERK PLEASE CALL ROLL ON
AMENDMENT NUMBER 4?
>> [ ROLL CALL ].
>> COUNCILMEMBER TERESA
MOSQUEDA.
>> I MADE A REMINDER WHICH
AMENDMENT THIS IS.
>> WERE EXPANDING THE THRESHOLD
FOR ELIGIBILITY FROM 10 TO 50%.
>> THANK YOU AND NO. ,
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON.
>> MY APOLOGIES.
>> TWO YES AND THREE NO.
>> GREAT. AND JUST FOR
EVERYBODY'S AWARENESS, AFTER
THIS NEXT AMENDMENT, WE ARE
GOING TO CLOSE DISCUSSION ON TH
AMENDMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS
BILL. AND WE WILL FIGURE OUT
HOW TO RESUME DELIBERATIONS ON
THE AMENDMENTS. BECAUSE WE DO
WANT TO HEAR FROM THOSE WHO
HAVE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY IN
THE AUDIENCE. MOVING TO
AMENDMENTS 5A AND 5 B, THESE AR
TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
AMENDMENTS WITH THE CENTRAL
STUFF THAT DESCRIBES THE TWO
DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS AND THEN
THE SPONSORS CAN SPEAK TO THE
AMENDMENTS IN THE ORDER THEY AR
LISTED ON THE AGENDA. COUNSEL
STAFF, PLEASE AMEND A AND B.
THIS WILL EXCLUDE THE FOLLOWING
TYPES OF NETWORK COMPANIES FROM
COVERAGE. MARKETPLACE NETWORK
COMPANIES AND NETWORK COMPANIES
PRESENTING OFFERS FOR
UNSUPERVISED SERVICES WITH
ACCESS TO PETS, CHILDREN, OR
VULNERABLE ADULTS. AND SERVICES
THAT PRIMARILY OCCUR INSIDE OR
AROUND THE CUSTOMER'S HOME.
AMENDMENT 5B WHICH IS SPONSORED
BY COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON AND
THEY WOULD EXEMPT A MORE NARROW
RANGE OF NETWORK COMPANIES. AN
THEY WOULD ONLY EXCLUDE
COMPANIES THAT ARE PRIMARILY
ENGAGED IN FACILITATING OR
PRESENTING OFFERS FOR PET CARE
SERVICES FROM COVERAGE. THE 5
EXCLUDES NETWORK COMPANIES THAT
COULD BE MARKETPLACE NETWORK
COMPANIES AND THE CAN ALSO BE
ON-DEMAND NETWORK COMPANIES AS
WELL.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, DO YOU
WANT TO SPEAK TO THE FIRST
VERSION OF THIS AMENDMENT?
>> WOULD REMOVE IT FIRST OR JUS
TALK? AND IF WE EXPLORE, WE
WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN.
MAYBE HAS THE SAME QUESTION I
RAISED MY HAND ABOUT. OR MAYBE
NOT. IT'S YOUR JOB TO DO THAT.
>> WILL HAVE BOTH MEMBERS SPEAK
TO THE AMENDMENTS AND THEN WILL
DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT T
MOVE BOTH OF THEM ARE ONE OF
THEM.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR LISA HERBOL
AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON. I SUPPORT COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON'S AMENDMENT FIVE IN. FOR
ME, 5 B IS MORE OF A BACKUP IN
CASE 5A DOES NOT PASS. BUT I
STRONGLY SUPPORT 5A. TO MAKE IT
CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGISLATION
WE REFER TO OFTEN AS PAY UP. BU
I WILL LET COUNCIL MEMBER NELSO
SPEAK TO THAT. I JUST WANT TO
CLARIFY THAT I'M MORE INTERESTE
IN PRESSING 5A THEN 5 B. BUT IT
WILL BE NECESSARY IF 5A DOES NO
PASS.
>> AND GIVEN THAT INTENT THEN W
WILL DECIDE. WITH WHAT HAPPENS
WITH 5A IF 5A PASSES. THEN WE
WILL HEAR 5B. IF IT DOES NOT
PASS THEN WE WILL THEN MOVE TO
5 B.
>>> WE BELIEVE THAT THE COUNSE
BILL CB 120580 SHOULD BE AMENDE
CONSISTENT BY ADDING THE SAME
LANGUAGE TO CLARIFY THAT
MARKETPLACE NETWORK COMPANIES
ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE ORDINANC
IF THEY SATISFY THE EXISTING
HIGH STANDARD FOR MARKETPLACE
NETWORK SOMETHING THAT I HAVE
ALREADY NOTED. SO LET'S JUST GE
BACK TO THE MORE BASIC QUESTION
ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE
CUSTOMERS THAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT. WE WANT TO PROMOTE A
SAFE COMMUNITY. WE DO NOT WANT
TO STIFLE THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE
TO NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE
COMPANIES. SO , WE ARE TALKIN
ABOUT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND
THE PRIVACY OF THE CUSTOMERS.
THIS WOULD SIMPLY PUSH THOSE
CUSTOMERS WHO DON'T FEEL LIKE
THEIR PRIVACY AND SAFETY IS
RECOGNIZED OUTSIDE OF THE
APPLICATION OR THE PLATFORM AND
THEY WOULD NEED TO USE OTHER
THINGS LIKE CRAIGSLIST OR
WORD-OF-MOUTH TO ACCESS THE
SERVICES. ANYWAY. IT IS CLEAR
THAT THE COMMUNICATION AND THE
HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE
CUSTOMER IS PARAMOUNT. SO THE
SHOULD BE EXCLUDED.
>> IT'S GREAT. THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. IS THERE
ANY OTHER? WITH MY THINKING ON
BOTH VERSIONS OF THE BILL. IF
THERE IS ANY FURTHER COMMENT I
WILL HOLD MY THINKING.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS AND
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON. AND
WHILE WE WERE DEBATING LAST YEA
THAT THE APPLICATION OF THE PA
STANDARD LEGISLATION WITH THAT
APP-BASED WORK INCLUDING
MARKETPLACE APPS BACK. THEN WE
WOULD CONTINUE TO BE OF THE
OPINION THAT THE BUSINESS MODEL
OF THE MARKETPLACE APPLICATIONS
WARRANTS A DIFFERENT APPROACH
THAN ON-DEMAND DELIVERY. AND
THAT THE ORGANIZATION OF THE
MARKETPLACE COMPANIES AND THE
NATURE OF HOW THAT WORK IS
DELIVERED IS MORE AKIN TO THE
TRADITIONAL INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTOR TYPE OF WORK.
ALTHOUGH, SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
GIVEN THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT
THE APP-BASED ALGORITHMS MANAGE
THAT WORK. IT WARRANTS A
DIFFERENT APPROACH IN THE CASE
OF THE PIP STANDARD. I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO
THE DEACTIVATION'S OF THE ACCES
TO THIS WORK AND THE ABILITY TO
HAVE CONTINUED ACCESS TO IT.
WHILE THERE ARE DIFFERENT
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT GOVERN OR
THAT SHOULD GOVERN IN CERTAIN
CASES, EXACTLY HOW THE
DEACTIVATION'S WORK, I THINK TH
BROADNESS OF OUR EGREGIOUS
MISCONDUCT DEFINITION, ALONG
WITH SOME OF THE PROTECTIONS DO
PROVIDE FOR THE NUANCE THAT IS
REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE WORKERS
CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCESS TO WORK
ON THE PLATFORM WITH DUE
PROCESS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT THE PROCESSES AND PRACTICE
OF THE PLATFORM, CB 120580 ,
TASK RABBIT, WHICH HAS AS I
UNDERSTAND IT, PERSONAL
ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENT OF
REQUEST FOR DEACTIVATION'S. AN
A PROCESS TO HANDLE APPEALS AN
OTHER TYPES OF CONDUCT. IT IS
POSSIBLE FOR THESE APPS MAKE TO
PROVIDE THE KIND OF DUE PROCES
TO GOVERN THE DEACTIVATION'S.
FOR THAT REASON, AT LEAST AT
THIS TIME , I AM OF THE
IMPRESSION THAT THE ORDINANCE
THAT WE ARE CRAFTING AND GOING
THROUGH THE AMENDMENT PROCESS
NOW AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE
HAVE INCORPORATED WARRANTS
INCLUSION OF MARKETPLACE
COMPANIES. FOR THAT REASON I
WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING EITHER O
THESE AMENDMENTS TODAY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS. COUNCILMEMBER ALEX
PEDERSEN.
>> THINK YOU CHAIR LISA HERBOLD
WE APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION
HERE TODAY. AND IN TERMS OF TH
ADMINISTRATION OF THIS AND
KEEPING IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
PIP LEGISLATION INTEREST THE
PRACTICALITY OF DOING THAT AS
WE ROLL OUT YET ANOTHER NEW
POLICY HERE. I THINK IT WILL BE
PRUDENT TO HAVE IT CONSISTENT
WITH THE PAY UP. I WOULD LIKE T
ADD MY NAME IS A COSPONSOR TO
THIS AMENDMENT IF THE SPONSOR
WILL HAVE ME. BUT I REALLY
THINK THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH
THIS PROCESS, THAT WE MAY HEAR
MORE ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE
NEED TO HAVE A CONSISTENT WITH
THE PIP LEGISLATION. AT LEAST
FOR STARTERS. I WILL BE VOTING
IN FAVOR OF 5A.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN.
SPEAKING TO BOTH AMENDMENT, I
APPRECIATE THAT THE COMPANY
THAT WE ARE SPEAKING TO DID
REQUEST THAT THEY BE EXEMPT FRO
THE ORDINANCE. BUT THEY ALSO
HELPED WITH SOME USEFUL
SUGGESTIONS FOR AMENDMENTS BY
THE ALTERNATE PATH TO EXEMPTION
I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THE
ALTERNATE PATH . TO THAT IN, WE
HAVE INCLUDED CRIMES OF ANIMAL
CRUELTY AND THE DEFINITION OF
EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT. AS WELL A
ANY BEHAVIOR THAT ENDANGERS THE
SAFETY OF A PERSON OR ANIMAL.
AND REALLY, WE HAVE HEARD TIME
AND TIME AGAIN FROM WORKERS AN
IN PARTICULAR, WORKERS THAT
PROVIDE PET CARE. AND WORKERS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE MARKETPLACE
. OFFICE ARE NOT IMMUNE TO
DAMAGES ASSOCIATED WITH
UNWARRANTED THE ACTIVATIONS. AN
SO THEY DESERVE THESE
PROTECTIONS AS MUCH AS ANYONE
ELSE. SOME OF WHAT I HAVE HEARD
FROM PET OWNERS SEEMS TO SUGGES
THAT THEY WILL BELIEVE THAT IF
SOMEONE IS NOT EGREGIOUSLY
DEACTIVATED FOR EGREGIOUS
VIOLATION, OR IF THEY'RE NOT
DEACTIVATED FROM THE PLATFORM
THAT SOMEHOW THEY HAVE TO WORK
WITH AN INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY
HAD TO WORK WITH BEFORE THAT TH
DON'T TO WORK WITH IN THE
FUTURE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT
THE CASE. ANYBODY GETTING THESE
HOME-BASED SERVICES CAN MAKE
PERSONAL CHOICES ABOUT WHO THEY
WORK WITH AND WHO THEY DON'T
WORK WITH. THE INTENT ABOUT
THIS LEGISLATION IS ABOUT THE
DEACTIVATION. DEPRIVING SOMEBOD
OF A WORKER FROM ACCESSING THE
PLATFORM ALTOGETHER. AGAIN,
CUSTOMERS USING THE SERVICES FO
PET SERVICES OR IN-HOME SERVICE
CAN CHOOSE TO NOT WORK WITH
SOMEBODY THAT THEY HAD WORKED
WITH BEFORE THAT THEY DON'T WAN
TO WORK WITH IN THE FUTURE. I
JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLARITY
BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS
THAT I HAVE HEARD. FROM MANY OF
THE FOLKS USING THESE
MARKETPLACE PLATFORMS ,
SUGGESTING THAT THERE MIGHT BE
MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE
INTENT OF THE LEGISLATION. AND
SO WITH THAT, THERE ARE NO
FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
AND WE DO SEE A HAND. I DO SEE
SOME HANDS IS STILL UP.
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN, D
YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION OR IS
IT A HOLDOVER?
>> NO. I WILL STAND BY AND KISS
ME TO SPEAK TO 5 B LATER.
>> GOT IT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON
HE WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE
AMENDMENT BEFORE US?
>> YES. WERE TALKING A LOT ABOU
>> Translator: AND TASK RABBIT.
BUT WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT
ALL OF THE OTHER COMPANIES THAT
WE HAD INTERACTION WITH WHEN WE
WERE DISCUSSING PAY UP. SO WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT
ARE COMING INTO YOUR HOME TO
CARE FOR AN ELDERLY RELATIVE.
PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO YOU
HOME TO CARE FOR YOUR CHILDREN.
AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AN
ON. IT IS NOT SURE ROVER AND
TASK RABBIT. ALTHOUGH ROVER IS
LOCAL COMPANY. AND THEREFORE
DESERVING OF MORE ATTENTION.
BUT, THIS IS A WHOLE RANGE OF
SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED.
HOUSECLEANING, ETC. I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS
RECOGNIZING THAT. THE
REGULATIONS, AND ESPECIALLY WHE
IT COMES TO PRIVACY AND SAFETY
APPLY TO A LOT MORE THAN JUST
THESE TWO COMPANIES. I DO WANT
TO GIVE JUSTICE TO THE COMMENT
THAT WERE SENT TO ME. AND I WIL
QUOTE THE FOLLOWING.
MARKETPLACE NETWORK COMPANIES
BELIEVE THAT DEACTIVATION OF A
COUNT STILL TO BE CONSIDERED IN
RARE CIRCUMSTANCES, BASED ON
INDIVIDUALIZED HUMAN REVIEW.
THEY HAVE FAIR PROCESSES IN
PLACE WHEN ANY DEACTIVATION IS
CONSIDERED. APPLYING TO ALL
USERS WITH SERVICES OFFERING
CLIENTS. MARKETPLACE PLATFORM
COMPANIES LIKE ROVER AND TASK
RABBIT MUST BE ABLE TO RESPOND
QUICKLY TO THE VARIETY OF
HEIGHTENED SAFETY RISKS AND
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT OCCUR WHEN
PEOPLE REGULARLY OFFER HIGHLY
PERSONAL AND LONG-DURATION
SERVICES IN THE HOME OR DIRECTL
CAN MAKE IT OR OTHERWISE
INTERACT ONE-ON-ONE ONLINE OR I
PERSON. EYE A PLACE THAT WERE
COMPANY MUST HAVE RELEVANT TRUS
AND SAFETY POLICIES IN PLACE TO
GUARD AGAINST INHERIT A
DIFFERENT AND MORE SERIOUS
SAFETY AND PRIVACY RISKS, TO
PROTECT THE PLATFORM COMMUNITY.
THOSE POLICIES ARE ALSO
IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THE
REPUTATION OF THE PLATFORM AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS, USING THE
PLATFORM TO OFFER SERVICES.
TRUST IS KEY FOR POTENTIAL
CLIENTS. FOR PEOPLE OFFERING
SERVICES ON THE MARKET PLACE
NETWORK COMPANY PLATFORM.
FAILURE TO PROTECT THE SAFETY
AND PRIVACY OF COMPANIES AND
CUSTOMERS WILL SIMPLY PUSH THE
WORKERS AND CUSTOMERS TO OTHER
AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVES.
MENTIONED THAT IN THE NOT SO
ELOQUENT WAY. BY DEFINITION,
THINK THAT A RANGE OF SERVICES
OTHER THAN DELIVERY. AND THE
BROAD SCOPE OF INDEPENDENT
SERVICES AND COMMUNICATIONS IN
THE MARKETPLACE NETWORK
COMPANIES, BY DEFINITION, MUST
SUPPORT OR ARE ASSOCIATED WITH
WIDE RANGE OF RISKS. THESE
COMPANIES MUST RESPOND TO. THEY
ARE OF A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
NATURE THAN DELIVERY SERVICES.
I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT
I WOULD LIKE THAT RECOGNIZED AN
REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HAD
COMMUNICATION FROM THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE AND THAT THEY DO SUPPORT
REMOVING MARKETPLACE NETWORK
COMPANIES FROM COVERAGE IN THIS
LEGISLATION.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. AND
COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN, YO
HOLDER COMMENTS FOR THE NEXT
AMENDMENT IF THIS ONE DOES NOT
PASS. SOUNDS GOOD. MR. CLERK.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE
AMENDMENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER TERESA
MOSQUEDA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> VICE CHAIR ANDREW LEWIS.
>> NO.
>> CHAIR LISA HERBOLD.
>> NO.
>> THREE YES AND TWO NO.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS
THE LAST AMENDMENT THAT WE WILL
DEAL WITH TODAY. THAT IS
AMENDMENT 5 B. COUNCILMEMBER
ALEX PEDERSEN, WOULD YOU LIKE T
SPEAK TO AMENDMENT 5 B?
>> THANK YOU AND WITH THE
LEGISLATION BEFORE US THAT IS
MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL HAVE
DEACTIVATION REJECTIONS IN FOR
APP-BASED WORKERS. THE BIG
PICTURES WITH MOVEMENT FORWARD
ON THIS. I REALLY THINK WE
SHOULD BE DOING CERTAIN THINGS
INCREMENTALLY AND ALSO
REEVALUATING IT AS WE GO ALONG.
WHICH IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THA
THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO EXHIBIT
MARKETPLACE MARKET COMPANIES.
THIS AMENDMENT IS REALLY FOCUSE
IN ON SOMETHING WE HEARD A LOT
ABOUT FROM CONSTITUENTS WHO USE
PET CARE SERVICES FOR DOGS AND
CATS AND OTHER PETS. THIS
AMENDMENT WOULD JUST EXEMPT PET
CARE SERVICES . WE BELIEVE
CARING FOR PETS IS A UNIQUE
BUSINESS OPERATION. ANIMALS AND
PETS DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO
SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. AS A PET
GUARDIAN MYSELF, IT'S OUR
RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THE
SAFEST OUTCOME FOR OUR FURRY
FRIENDS. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE
ARE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S HANDS AND
HOMES. SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT
LATER TO INCLUDE THEM. BUT FOR
NOW, I THINK IT IS PRUDENT TO
EXEMPT THEM FROM THIS NEW LAW
UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT ALL THE
CONSEQUENCES AND OUTCOMES ARE.
SHADOW CONTINUES TO BE AMONG TH
TOP DOG FRIENDLY CITIES IN THE
COUNTRY. I'M SURE THAT WE ALL
KNOW SOMEBODY THAT HAS PETS AND
NEEDS THEM CARED FOR. IT'S MOR
THIS ENVIRONMENT FOR PET CARE
SERVICES IS MORE VULNERABLE
ENVIRONMENT THEN SAY FOOD
DELIVERY, FOR EXAMPLE. I THINK
THAT PROVIDES WHERE THERE IS A
REASON TO HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL
CARE. THE EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT
DEFINITION THAT WAS EXPANDED,
THAT APPLIES TO ALL ANIMALS. AN
WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE PET
CARE SERVICES INVOLVED. THAT IS
WHY THIS AMENDMENT IS STILL
NEEDED SO THAT WE CAN EXEMPT
PET CARE SERVICES AT THIS TIME.
WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT INCLUDING
THEM LATER.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF THERE
IS ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT
ASSOCIATED WITH THE AMENDMENT.
STILL NOT SEEING ANY HANDS
RAISED. MR. CLERK. PLEASE CALL
ROLL ON AMENDMENT B.
>> COUNCILMEMBER TERESA
MOSQUEDA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SARA NELSON.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER ALEX PEDERSEN
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER ANDREW LEWIS.
>> NO.
>> THREE SN TWO NO.
>> ALL RIGHT AND THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR EVERYBODY'S WORK
GETTING THROUGH THESE FIRST FIV
AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE GOT SEVEN
OR EIGHT MORE TO GO AND I THINK
ONE OF THEM IS A MULTISECTION
AMENDMENT. SO WE ARE GOING TO
HAVE TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER
AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS
NEXT STEPS ON THESE AMENDMENTS
IN CONSIDERATION OF SOME
VACATION SCHEDULES THAT I KNOW
ARE COMING UP THAT MIGHT MAKE
THAT A LITTLE CHALLENGING. BUT
I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL
FIGURE IT ALL OUT. AND IN FACT
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITE
ON THE AGENDA. MR. CLERK,
PLEASE READ IN THE AGENDA ITEM.
>> AGENDA ITEM 3. AGE FRIENDLY
SEATTLE. ADDRESSING SOCIAL
ISOLATION AND PROMOTING
ANTI-AGEISM.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CLERK
WHILE WE HAVE FOLKS JOINING US
AT THE TABLE, THIS IS A
PRESENTATION BY THE HUMAN
SERVICES DEPARTMENT ON AGE
FRIENDLY SEATTLE. WE HAVE FOLKS
WITH US HERE TODAY FROM HST.
THANK YOU ALL FOR STAYING WITH
US THROUGH THIS REALLY LONG
COMMITTEE MEETING. AND WE WILL
HANDED OVER TO YOU FOR
INTRODUCTIONS. PLEASE
PRESENTERS, INTRODUCE
YOURSELVES.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR LISA HERBOL
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND PROVID
AN UPDATE ON AGE FRIENDLY
SEATTLE. FOR THE RECORD, I THE
INTERIM DIRECT DIRECTOR OF THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND
WILL GO DOWN THE LINE TO
INTRODUCE OUR OTHER PANELISTS.
>> GOOD MORNING AND I AM WITH
THE AGE FRIENDLY SEATTLE WE AR
THE DIRECTOR FOR THE AGING AND
DISABILITY SERVICES DIVISION.
>> AND THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR
FOR AGE FRIENDLY SEATTLE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE
PROPOSED PRESENTATION IS TO
HIGHLIGHT THE WORK OF AGE
FRIENDLY SEATTLE. THE HUMAN
SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND AGING
AND DISABILITY DIVISION SUPPORT
OLDER ADULTS WIH DISABILITIES
AND CAREGIVERS THROUGHOUT THE
CITY AND KING COUNTY. TO ENSURE
THAT OLDER ADULTS EXPERIENCE
STABLE HEALTH AND CAN AGE IN
PLACE. WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE A SPOTLIGH
ON THIS WORK. THIS AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US AN
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> AS YOU ALL KNOW, SEATTLE'S
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT HOUSE
THREE DIVISIONS. AS WE WERE
HERE TODAY FROM OUR AGING AND
DISABILITY SERVICES TEAM WHICH
PROMOTES HEALTHY AGING AND
SUPPORT SERVICES FOR OLDER
ADULTS AND PEOPLE DISABILITIES
AND CAREGIVERS. WHAT IMPORTANT
THING TO KNOW ABOUT THE AGING
AND DISABILITY SERVICES UNIT IS
THAT THIS DIVISION FUNCTIONS AS
THE AREA AGE ON AGING. AND
RESPONSIBLE BOTH FOR
ADMINISTERING THE OLDER ADMIN
AMERICAN ACT ACROSS ALL OF KING
COUNTY. THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS
THAT THIS TEAM WORKS WITHIN HST
AS WELL AS PARTNERSHIP WITH
DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE CITY.
THIS IS ALSO BY DESIGN AND WE
ARE PROUD SEATTLE HAS RECOGNIZE
THE NEED TO PROVIDE AN AGE
FRIENDLY LENS BECAUSE OLDER
ADULTS ARE IMPACTED BY THE FULL
RANGE OF ISSUES THAT OUR CITY
ADDRESSES. I WILL NOW HANDED OF
TO MARY MITCHELL, THE DIRECTOR
OF AGING SERVICES AND THE REST
OF THE AGE FRIENDLY TEAM TO
SHARE MORE ABOUT THE CURRENT
PROJECTS.
>> AROUND THE WORLD, POPULATION
ARE AGING AND THIS IS REFERRED
TO AS THE SILVER SYMPHONY. IN
RESPONSE TO THIS TREND, THE
UNITED NATIONS HAS DECLARED THI
THE DECADE OF AGING AND THE
WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS
CALLED ON COMMUNITIES TO BECOME
MORE AGE FRIENDLY. SEATTLE
JOINS THIS MISSION BY LAUNCHING
YOUR OWN AGE FRIENDLY INITIATIV
AND 2017. PASSED BY CITY
RESOLUTION, AGE CITY SETTLES A
CITYWIDE INITIATIVE THAT
REPRESENTS AN EVOLUTION OF OUR
CITY SUPPORTS OLDER ADULTS. SOM
OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THE MAYORS
OFFICE OF SENIOR CITIZENS. AND
THE CITY HAS SHIFTED AWAY FROM
THIS APPROACH WHICH REQUIRES
OLDER ADULTS TO COME TO A
PHYSICAL LOCATION TO RECEIVE
RESOURCES TOWARDS THE AGE
FRIENDLY SEATTLE APPROACH. WHIC
AIMS TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY
ARE IN COMMUNITY. TO THE RACIAL
EQUITY LENS, AGE FRIENDLY
SEATTLE WORKS TO UNDERSTAND AND
ELEVATE THE CULTURALLY SPECIFI
NEEDS OF OLDER ADULTS FROM
ACCESSIBLE HOUSING AND
TRANSPORTATION TO EMERGENCY
PLANNING TO HEALTHCARE SERVICE
COORDINATION. SINCE THE
INITIATIVE INCEPTION, THE TEAM
HAS WRAPPED UP THE FIRST
FIVE-YEAR INCEPTION PLAN AND
LAUNCHED OUR SECOND YEAR
STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK. WERE HERE
TODAY TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOU
HER EFFORTS TO ADDRESS SOCIAL
ISOLATION AND REDUCE AGEISM. TW
TOPICS THAT GO HAND-IN-HAND. FO
THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO TH
AGE FRIENDLY TEAM.
>> AS MY JUST MENTIONED, OUR
SECOND FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC
FRAMEWORK WAS LAUNCHED IN 2022.
WE ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON
HELPING OLDER ADULTS TO MAINTAI
THREE KEY RESOURCES. ECONOMIC
SECURITY AND HEALTH AND
WELL-BEING AND SOCIAL
CONNECTIVITY. WE WILL DIVE INTO
SOCIAL CONNECTIVITY TODAY BUT
THERE IS A LOT OF OVERLAP
BETWEEN THESE ISSUES. JUST TO
GIVE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT ABOU
AGE FRIENDLY SEATTLE IN GENERAL
THE ADVOCACY SHOP WITHIN THE
CITY IS REALLY CHARGED WITH
COMMUNICATING NEEDS OF OLDER
ADULTS ACROSS ALL CITY PLANS AN
POLICIES AS WE ARE WORKING WITH
CONVENERS AND CONNECTORS TO
BRING TOGETHER DIFFERENT
STAKEHOLDERS TO TALK ABOUT AND
ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OLDER
ADULTS TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO
PEOPLE'S CHALLENGES. WE FUNCTIO
AS EDUCATORS WITH THE TRAINING
WE TALK ABOUT TODAY IS A GREATR
EXAMPLE OF THAT. WITH YOUR
RESULTS AS ADVOCATES UPPING
OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO SUPPORT TH
NEEDS OF OLDER ADULTS. WE DO
ADMINISTER COUPLE OF OUR OWN
PROGRAMS WHICH WILL HEAR ABOUT
TODAY. AS WE TALK ABOUT AGING
AND GROWING OLDER, I THINK IT'S
HELPFUL TO BE MINDFUL OF THE
DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES THAT YOU AR
EXPERIENCING AND WILL CONTINUE
TO EXPERIENCE. AROUND THE
WORLD, LAST WEEK THE NEW YORK
TIMES HAD A HEADLINE THAT THE
U.S. POPULATION IS OLDER THAN I
HAS EVER BEEN BEFORE. THIS IS
TRUE LOCALLY HERE WITH KING
COUNTY. NOT ONLY ARE WE GROWIN
IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF OLDER
ADULTS AGING, BUT WE ARE LIVING
LONGER. THANKS TO MODERN
MEDICINE AND PUBLIC HEALTH
MEASURES. OUR LIFESPANS ARE
EXTENDED. WHAT THIS MEANS IS
THAT, NOT ONLY WILL WE HAVE A
GROWING NUMBER OF OLDER ADULTS,
BUT WE WILL HAVE A GROWING
NUMBER OF WHAT ARE CALLED VERY
OLD ADULTS. THOSE WHO ARE 85 AN
ABOVE. THIS CHART SHOWS OF THE
PROJECTIONS BETWEEN 2010 AND
2040. AS IT CAN SEE, THERE'S
REALLY EXPONENTIAL GROWTH WITH
THOSE WERE 85 AND ABOVE. THIS
INVITES US TO THINK ABOUT A CIT
WHERE FOLKS COULD THRIVE IN
THEIR LATER YEARS BECAUSE THERE
WILL BE MORE AND MORE OF US
THERE. HERE IN SEATTLE, ABOUT
12% OF THE POPULATION IS OVER
65. BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
SOCIAL ISOLATION TODAY, I THINK
IT'S HELPFUL TO REMEMBER THAT A
LOT OF FOLKS ARE LIVING ALONE.
THIS IS NOT A BAD THING AND A
LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE TO STAY IN
THEIR HOMES AND THE COMMUNITIES
THAT THEY KNOW AND LOVE. IT'S A
BIG PART OF STAYING SOCIALLY
CONNECTED AND IT INVITES US TO
THINK ABOUT WHAT THE HOUSING
LOOKS LIKE AND HOW ACCESSIBLE I
IT FOR SOMEONE TO AGE SAFELY IN
THEIR OWN HOME. WITH AGE, OFTEN
COMES DISABILITY. AND KING
COUNTY COME AC MILAN 15% OF
FOLKS 18 TO 24 AS THE IDENTIFY
OF HAVING ONE OR MORE
DISABILITIES. AND THEN
INCREASING 45% OF THOSE WERE 75
OR OLDER. I ALSO THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THE
INVERSE THAT 55% OF PEOPLE 75
YEARS OLD AND OLDER DO NOT HAVE
DISABILITIES SO WE RETURN TO
REFRAME MY THOUGHTS AROUND
AGING. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO
THINK ABOUT HOW WE CREATE A
COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL
ABILITIES CAN THRIVE IN THEI
LATER YEARS. YOU MAY SEE THAT
THE SURGEON GENERAL MAY HAVE
RELEASED AN ADVISORY LAST MONTH
THERE IS AN URGENT PUBLIC
HEALTH ISSUE WHICH IS LONELINES
AND ISOLATION. THE SURGEON
GENERAL HAS PUT TOGETHER A LOT
OF DATA THAT HAS BEEN AMASSED
OVER THE LAST DECADES. SHOWING
THAT SOCIAL CONNECTION IS VITA
TO US AS AIR AND WATER AND FOOD
WE ARE SOCIAL CREATURES. WITHOU
CONNECTIVITY, OUR MORTALITY
SUFFERS. SOCIAL ISOLATION HAS
SIMILAR IMPACT IN THE MORTALITY
AS MANY OTHER COMMON RISK
FACTORS SUCH AS SMOKING OR HIGH
BLOOD PRESSURE. 50% IS THE
PERCENTAGE THAT ARE SOCIAL
CONNECTION INCREASES OUR ODDS O
SURVIVAL. ANOTHER 50% NUMBER
THAT I WANT TO CALL YOUR
ATTENTION TO IS THE PERCENTAGE
BY WHICH CHRONIC LONELINESS AND
SOCIAL ISOLATION CAN INCREASE
THE RISK OF DEVELOPING DEMENTIA
IN OLDER ADULTS. WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT CREATING A COMMUNITY THAT
IS INCLUSIVE OF FOLKS WHO ARE
EXPERIENCING DEMENTIA, AS WELL
AS THEIR CAREGIVERS WANTING TO
CREATE SPACES THAT PROMOTE BRAI
HEALTH. SOCIAL CONNECTIVITY IS
BIG PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. AND W
REALIZE THAT THIS IS A BOLD
STATEMENT THAT SOCIAL ISOLATION
IS KILLING US IN THE SURGEON
GENERAL MADE THAT CLAIM IN HIS
ADVISORY. AND WE ALSO OFFER THA
AGEISM IS ALSO REDUCING HER
LIFESPAN. THESE THINGS GO
HAND-IN-HAND AND NOT BECAUSE
THEY'RE BOTH HARMING OUR HEALTH
ALONG WITH THE YEARS LIVED AND
THEY FUNCTION IN SIMILAR WAYS.
THROUGH PSYCHOLOGICAL,
BEHAVIORAL, AND PHYSIOLOGICAL
PATHWAYS. HE COULD THINK OF THI
AS AN EXAMPLE. WHEN WERE
SOCIALLY ISOLATED, WE TEND TO
LOSE A SENSE OF MEANING AND
PURPOSE IN LIFE. SIMILARLY, WHE
WE ARE TOLD HER ENTIRE LIFE THE
AGING IS SOMETHING TO AVOID IN
MY MAY BECOME USELESS IN OUR
LATER YEARS, THEN INTERNALIZED
AGEISM CAN PROMOTE FEELINGS OF
LOSS OF PURPOSE AND MEANING AS
WELL. WE DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE
WORTH INVESTING AND THEN WE STO
BEHAVING IN WAYS THAT ARE
BENEFICIAL TO OUR HEALTH. WE
STOP CONNECTING WITH THEIR
FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHICH IN TUR
CREATES MORE ISOLATION AND A
VISIT VICIOUS CYCLE. WE ARE
EXERCISING AND EATING WELL AND
WE EVEN STOP AT HEARING TO HER
MEDICATION AND TREATMENT PLANS.
SEE CAN SEE THESE AS A PUBLIC
HEALTH ISSUE. MANY FACTORS
ADDRESS SOCIAL CONNECTIVITY. IS
A CITYWIDE INITIATIVE, AGE
FRIENDLY SEATTLE IS WELL
POSITIONED TO ENGAGE ON A LOT O
THE SPACES. EARLIER THIS LAST
YEAR WE HELD A FORUM TO CONVENE
VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO TALK ABOUT
HOUSING AND AGING IN PLACE. WA
IN A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION
SPACES BECAUSE A LOT OF OLDER
ADULTS STOP DRIVING AND
TRANSPORTATION BECOMES VITAL TO
THEIR ABILITY TO MOVE AROUND TH
CITY AND ENGAGE AND PERFORM
LIFE'S DAILY TASKS. WORKPLACES
ARE BIG PLAYS WERE SOCIAL
CONNECTIVITY HAPPENS. AND
COMMUNITY. EARLIER LAST YEAR, W
HOPE THE PARKS TEAM IS
RELAUNCHING THE WALKING PROGRAM
FOR OLDER ADULTS, FOR EXAMPLE.
THIS FALL, WE ARE LEAVING IN
TWO DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES TO
TALK ABOUT SOCIAL CONNECTIVITY
AND WHAT WE CAN DO COLLECTIVELY
AS A CITY AT A COMMUNITY TO
INCREASE OUR CONDUCTIVITY. AND
I MENTIONED THAT WE DO OFFER A
FEW PROGRAMS OURSELVES.
INCLUDING OUR CIVIC A COPY HOUR
WHICH ARE HELD MONTHLY AND
COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL MEMBE
LISA HERBOLD IS FAMILIAR WITH
THIS. TELL US ABOUT THESE
EVENTS.
>> ALSO LIKE TO THINK COUNCIL
MEMBER LISA HERBOLD FOR BEING
PART OF OUR APRIL 7th PANEL. W
HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 15
YEARS. THIS HAS BEEN HOUSED IN
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY. FO
THE PAST FOUR YEARS, AGE
FRIENDLY SEATTLE HAS HOSTED
CIVIC COFFEE IN PARTNERSHIP WIT
THE SEATTLE PUBLIC LIBRARY.
LIZZIE THAT SERVES AS A PLATFOR
FOR OLDER ADULTS AND THEIR
FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS. TO
ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL
CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS
WITH THE COMMUNITY LEADERS AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. FOR THE
PAST YEAR WE HAVE STARTED
COLLABORATING WITH SENIOR
CENTERS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS T
BRING THE EVENT TO THEM INSTEAD
OF ASKING THEM TO COME TO US.
AND HAVE MOVED IT AROUND THE
CITY AS WE STARTED OUR YEAR AT
THE LAKE CITY SENIOR CENTER AND
WE'RE ADDING IT AT THE SOUTHEAS
SENIOR CENTER. WE ARE ALL OVER
THE PLACE. THAT ONLY DO WE
COLLABORATE WITH HIS LOCATION
WITH THE SENIOR CENTERS AND
COMMUNITY CENTERS FOR LOCATIONS
BUT WE ALSO ASK SOME TOPICS , T
OLDER ADULTS AND WHAT ARE SOME
RESOURCES THEY WOULD LIKE TO
GET? WE TELL OF THOSE
DISCUSSIONS BASED ON THE
FEEDBACK AND SUGGESTIONS THE
GIVE US. WE HAVE HAD A RANGE O
DISCUSSIONS. AND WITH ACCESS TO
CARE AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND BRAI
HEALTH AS A FEW EXAMPLES. WITH
WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED FOR THE
COMMUNITY. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE T
HIGHLIGHT A VERY ESSENTIAL PART
OF OUR CIVIC COFFEE HOUR. IT IS
OUR LIFE INTERPRETATION. AND W
BELIEVE LANGUAGE SHOULD NOT BE
BARRIER TO PARTICIPATION. WE
ASK THE COMMUNITY THAT WE BRING
THESE EVENTS TO SOME LANGUAGES
THAT YOU NEED LIVE
INTERPRETATION ON. ONLY PROVID
THOSE INTERPRETERS ON THE SPOT.
THAT WAY WE'RE REALLY CREATING
A SPACE WHERE OLDER ADULTS AND
THEIR FAMILIES CAN FULLY ENGAGE
IN THESE DISCUSSION AND THEIR
NATIVE LANGUAGES . OR ENGLISH I
THEY PREFER. THIS GOVERNANCE
FOR LANGUAGE ACCESS REALLY
UNDERLINES OUR DEDICATION FOR
AMPLIFYING THE VOICES OF OLDER
ADULTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE
GATHERINGS ARE VALUABLE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR OLDER ADULTS
TO LEARN ABOUT CURRENT
INITIATIVES AND FOR GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS TO HEAR THIS UNIQUE
PERSPECTIVES. I DO INVITE YOU
GUYS TO JOIN OUR CIVIC COFFEE I
YOU LIKE. THANK YOU AND EL PASO
BACK TO DIANA.
>> WE WILL BRIEFLY MENTION ONE
OTHER PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE TO
CLOSE OUT WITH THE TRAINING. WE
ADMINISTER DISCOUNT PROGRAM FOR
OLDER ADULTS. ANYONE 60 AND
ABOVE CAN QUALIFY FOR THIS. AS
WELL AS ANY ADULT WITH A
DISABILITY. WE RECRUIT
BUSINESSES ALL AROUND SEATTLE T
VOLUNTARILY JOIN THE DISCOUNT
DIRECTORY. WE RECENTLY DID A
SURVEY OF PEOPLE USING THE
DISCOUNT DIRECTORY. OLDER ADULT
ASKING WHAT PROGRAM VALUE THE
PROGRAM GIVES YOU. 85% TO LIST
THIS INCREASES THE SOCIAL
CONNECTIVITY. WE LOOK FORWARD T
CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND INVEST I
THIS PROGRAM. NOW WE WILL HANDE
OVER TO MAKE TO CLOSE US OUT
WITH A PREVIEW OF THE AGE
FRIENDLY SEATTLE ANTI-AGEISM
TRAINING. AND WE MENTIONED THA
SOME OF THIS EARLIER ON. AND
JUST TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO
COUPLE MORE LOGISTICS BUT WHY D
ANTI-AGEISM TRAINING? BECAUSE
AGEISM COSTS OUR SOCIETY
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
HEALTHCARE COSTS EVERY YEAR.
THEIR STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT I
REDUCES OUR LONGEVITY. AND ONE
OF THE MOST INSIDIOUS THINGS
ABOUT AGEISM IS THAT IT ROBS US
ALL OF OUR ABILITY TO LOOK
FORWARD TO GROWING OUR OLDER AN
IT PREVENTS INTERGENERATIONAL
COMMUNITIES.
>> THANK YOU, DIANA. WE INTENDE
FOR THIS TO BE A MULTI-PHASED
PROJECT. SO FOR PHASE 1, WE ARE
EXAMINING OUR OWN SELVES FIRST.
BASICALLY, STARTING WITH THE
CRITICAL VIEW OF OUR OWN
MINDSETS AND THINKING AROUND
AGEISM AS CITY OF SEATTLE
EMPLOYEES. AND THEN, BASED ON
THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM OUR
INTERNAL ROLLOUT, PHASE TWO
EYEDROPS FOR COMMUNITY. NEXT
LINE. WITH REGARD TO TIMELINE,
THE IDEA FOR THE TRAINING
SPARKED ORIGINALLY WHEN SEATTL
BECAME AN AGE FRIENDLY CITY. AN
THEN A LATE 2021, WE CONVENED
PARTNERS TO DETERMINE THE
CONTENT AND THE TOPICS THAT WE
MIGHT ADDRESS WITH LATE 2022 AN
WE HIRED A VENDOR SPECIALIZED
IN CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT AND
BEGAN PRODUCTION. AND EARLY 202
WE INVITED INPUT FROM KEY
PARTNERS. THOSE INCLUDE OUR AAA
ADVISORY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR'S
COUNCIL ON AFRICAN-AMERICAN
ELDERS, OUR OWN HST CHANGE TEAM
AND OTHER AGING AND DISABILITY
PROFESSIONALS HERE AT HSD. AND
THEN, IN JUNE AND JULY, WE'RE I
THE FINAL STAGES OF COMPLETING
THESE TRAININGS AND LOADING THE
ONTO OUR LEARNING MANAGEMENT
SYSTEM. AS WELL AS GETTING THE
ONTO CORNERSTONE. AND THEN THIS
SUMMER, WE'RE EXCITED TO BEGIN
THE ROLLOUT ACROSS FOR CITY
EMPLOYEES. WITH REGARD TO
CONTENT, WE LEANED ON OUR
CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT PARTNER
TO PROVIDE A PROGRESSION. WHERE
WE STARTED INVITING US TO
EXPLORE HER OWN BIASES. THE WHA
AND THE WHY OF BOTH AGING AND
AGEISM. WE WANTED TO RECOGNIZE
THE COMPOUNDING AGEISM IMPACT
WHEN THEY COMBINE IT WITH OTHER
SUCH AS RACISM AND ABLE TO IS
HIM. AND THEN THE FUN PART IS
THAT WE INVITED COLLEAGUES
ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO SHARE
THEIR OWN FAMILIES AND THEIR OW
AGING STORIES. AND PERSONAL
STORIES ABOUT AGING. AND WE HAV
A WIDE RANGE OF CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE WERE SO OVERWHELMED AND
EXCITED ABOUT CAPTURING THE
STORIES OF OLDER ADULTS. THEN W
WILL BE SUPPRESSOR TIPS AND
STRATEGIES THAT ARE
PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONALIZED.
AND WE MAY CONSIDER HOW TO BE
ANTI-AGEIST AND DEFINITELY WE
WANT TO INCLUDE RESOURCES. SO W
HAVE A CURATED LIST OF THOSE AT
THE END OF THE TRAINING AS WELL
FOR SUPPORTING FURTHER LEARNING
AND DISCOVERY. WITH REGARD TO
THE ROLLOUT, WE WANT TO THINK
INTENTIONALLY AND NOT JUST HOPE
FOR THE BEST. SINCE IT IS A
NONMANDATORY TRAINING FOR THE
CITY OF SEATTLE EMPLOYEES, WE
WANTED TO BUILD ENGAGEMENT WITH
THE LAUNCH. WITH THAT, A
COMPANION DISCUSSION GUIDE WOUL
ALLOW FOR THE UNITS TO BOTH
DISCUSS AND DEBRIEF TOGETHER.
DO THINK ABOUT HOW THE INSIGHTS
MIGHT INFLUENCE THEIR WORK. WE
WANTED TO MAKE OURSELVES
AVAILABLE AND HELP FACILITATION
TO FACILITATE THE APPLICATION
OF THESE PROCESSES. TO THE
SMALL GROUP CHATS AND THEN
FINALLY, AS WE LOOK AHEAD, TO
ANOTHER ITERATION OF TRAINING
FOR COMMUNITIES. WE WANTED TO
KEEP THAT FEEDBACK LOOP GOING
AND KEEP THE LESSONS LEARNED IN
MIND. SO WE WERE HOPING TO GRA
A LITTLE CLIP TO SHARE. I'M
REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS CLIP
BECAUSE I THINK IT GIVES A
PERSONAL FACE TO THE IMPORTANCE
OF SOCIAL ISOLATION THAT WE HAV
DISCUSSED AS WELL. IS HOW OUR
OWN AGEIST THINKING CAN ALSO BE
INTERNALIZED. I THINK THIS IS A
GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. IT'S JUST
40 SECONDS. IT'S A MINICLIP. I
MAY NOT BE WORKING. MAYBE,
WHILE WE ARE SORTING THIS OUT,
WE WOULD JUST SAY A FEW WORDS
ABOUT MY APPRECIATION FOR YOUR
WORK. I JUST WANT TO LIFT UP TH
FACT THAT A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T
KNOW HOW MUCH WORK THIS
DIVISION DID DURING THE
PANDEMIC. 14,000 SCENE IS MAC
WERE INDIVIDUALLY CALLED IN
APRIL OF 2020 TO CHECK ON THE
HEALTH AND WELFARE. AND TO TRY
SPECIAL NEEDS. DURING THE SAME
PERIOD OF TIME, DIGITAL TABLETS
WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ELDERS TO
FOSTER SOCIAL CONNECTIVITY.
THERE WAS INFORMATION PUSHED OU
ABOUT HOTLINES FOR SENIORS. AND
A STATEWIDE SERVICE CALLED
WASHINGTON LISTENS AND THE CIVI
COFFEES WERE CONTINUED ON LINE.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE AND
ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPORTANCE OF
THAT WORK. I ALSO WANT TO THINK
OUR FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS FOR
APPROVING THE INITIAL
INVESTMENTS TO ADDRESS THE
SENIOR ISOLATION DURING THE
PANDEMIC WITH THE TOTAL OF $1.5
MILLION INCLUDING THE $5000 FO
INTEGRATIVE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
SERVICES. PARTIALLY TARGETED T
SENIORS OVER 55. CONVENING
SENIOR CENTERS AND STAKEHOLDERS
TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO SAFELY
REOPEN. AND FUNDING TO EXPAND
THE STAY CONNECTED PROGRAM WITH
THE PILOT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN
THE FOUR SENIOR CENTERS. AND
FUNDING FOR WI-FI HOTSPOTS 30
LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THIS IS ALL VERY CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT WORK AND WE APPRECIAT
THE FACT THAT MY COLLEAGUES ALS
SUPPORT THIS EFFORT. AND THE
REFERENCE TO THE RESOLUTION
EARLIER. AND WE WANT TO
RECOGNIZE THE LEADERSHIP IN
GETTING THIS AGE FRIENDLY
RESOLUTION PASSED. SEVERAL YEAR
AGO. AND WE JUST WANT TO FLAG
THAT I UNDERSTAND THE APPROACH
BEING USED. AND I ALSO KNOW A
LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MISSED THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE ON SENIOR
CITIZENS BECAUSE THE PERCEPTION
THAT THAT WAS A FOCUSED PLACE
WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO FOR
ADVOCACY ON PROBLEM SOLVING AN
DEALING WITH BARRIERS THAT
PEOPLE HAVE ACCESSING THEIR CIT
SERVICES ARE EXTERNAL CITY
SERVICES. AND THE OFFICES MET
WITH A GROUP OF SENIORS WHO AR
STRUGGLING WITH THE FACT THAT
THERE IS NO LONGER AN OFFICE OF
SENIORS. AND ACTUALLY
ADVOCATING FOR AN OLDER PERSON
RESIDENT COMMISSION. WERE
HOPING THAT MAYBE THAT WE CAN
TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN CONNECT
THIS GROUP OF SENIORS TO THE
WORK OF THE ADVISORY COUNCIL.
THERE IS THE ADVISORY COUNCIL
THAT IS VERY ROBUST AND USEFUL.
BUT THE REMAINS TO BE SOME
CONNECTIONS FOR FOLKS IN THE
COMMUNITY.
>> AND WE MAY NEED TO FOLLOW-UP
WE CAN USE THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO
FOLLOW UP WITH ALL OF YOU. I
WILL PREFACE THAT IT'S A VERY
ADORABLE CLIP. DO ENJOY IT WHEN
YOU ARE VISITING.
>> EXCUSE ME. THIS IS ERIC FROM
I.T. I CAN TRY RUNNING IT FROM
MY COMPUTER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO DO THAT. GIVE ME A SECOND
HERE. IN OKAY GREAT. THANK YOU.
>> HOUSE EXPERIENCE AND BALANCE
ISSUES AND STRUGGLING WITH USIN
A WALKER WHEN OUT AND ABOUT
BECAUSE I DON'T LOOK OR FEEL
LIKE A LITTLE OLD LADY. I
STARTED GETTING OUT LESS AND
LESS. BECAUSE OF THIS
COMBINATION OF FACTORS. UNTIL A
FRIEND SUGGESTED A CREATIVE
SOLUTION. TRYING HIKING POLES
AND SAID. I GOT A HOT PINK PAI
WHICH I CALL MY FLAMINGO LEGS.
NOW I GO OUT FOR DAILY WALKS
AGAIN USING THEM THIS IS
IMPROVE MY STAMINA AND MENTAL
HEALTH AND GIVEN ME A NEW WAY T
CONNECT WITH NEIGHBORS AS THEY
COMMENT ON AND ASK ABOUT MY CUT
FLUORESCENT MOBILITY AIDS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE WIL
LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO HELP PUSH
THIS OUT. WE ALL HAVE
NEWSLETTERS AND WE UNDERSTAND
THAT THIS IS MORE OF AN INTERNA
TRAINING. BUT WE ALSO
UNDERSTAND THERE'S INTEREST IN
MAKING IT EXTERNAL TO THE CITY
AS WELL. WERE ALSO INTERESTED
AND WE KNOW THAT YOU MENTION
THIS IS A VOLUNTARY INTERNAL
TRAINING. AND WE NOW GENERALLY
SPEAKING THE TRAININGS THAT ARE
MANDATORY, THERE ARE SOME
REQUIREMENTS TO TALK TO OUR
LABOR UNIONS. AND WE KNOW THIS
FROM A MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE
WHEN YOU DECIDE THAT IT IS
USEFUL. TO HAVE A MANDATORY
TRAINING. THAT WILL THEN
TRIGGER THE NEED TO DISCUSS THA
WITH OUR LABOR UNIONS AND
WHETHER OR NOT THE CONDITIONS
THAT LED TO THE DECISION TO
HAVE THAT ANTI-AGEISM TRAINING.
THEY MIGHT ALSO BE CONDITIONS
THAT MAKE IT WORTHY OF
CONSIDERATION FROM MANDATORY
PROGRAM.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. AND ALSO THANK
YOU FOR STICKING AROUND WITH
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON AND
COUNCILMEMBER PETERSON'S DURING
THE DURATION THAT WE ARE ABLE T
MAINTAIN THROUGH THE END OF THE
MEETING. IT IS 12:30 PM AND WE
ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.