>>> GOOD MORNING. THE SELECT
BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING WILL
COME TO ORDER. IT IS 9:30 A.M.
BEFORE THE CLERK CALLS THE
ROLL, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THE
CHAMBERS -- I AM ASKING FOR THE
CHAMBERS TO BE QUIET. FOR THE
RECORD, THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE
PUBLIC IN HERE WHEN I JUST SAID
THAT. IT IS 9:31 A.M. WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> PRESENT.
>> SEVEN PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH
AND COUNCILMEMBER SAKA TOLD ME
THAT THEY ARE RUNNING LATE. THE
SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE IS NOT
ACCEPTING VERBAL PUBLIC, IN
TODAY'S MEETING. WRITTEN
PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE SUBMITTED
ONLINE. WE DO HAVE
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA AND
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH
WITH US NOW. TODAY ON THE
AGENDA IS THE SAME BILL THAT WE
POSTPONED FROM YESTERDAY'S
AGENDA, AND I MOVED TO ADOPT
THE AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. IT IS MOVED AND
ADOPTED. COUNCILMEMBERS,
YESTERDAY, THE COMMITTEE TOOK
ACTION ON ITEMS 2 THROUGH 37 ON
TODAY'S AGENDA. WE WILL GET TO
YOU.
>> I MOVED TO CONSIDER S.0881.
>> YOU NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED IN
ORDER TO SPEAK. THAT POINT
COMES IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. I
WILL CALL ON YOU WHEN WE ARE AT
THE RIGHT PLACE.
>> COUNCILMEMBERS, I'M GOING
TO SEEK UNANIMOUS CONSENT --
I'M GOING TO START OVER.
YESTERDAY, THE COMMITTEE ACTED
ON ITEMS 2 THROUGH 37 ON
TODAY'S AGENDA. I'M GOING TO
SEEK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO
CLARIFY THAT TODAY THE
COMMITTEE IS ONLY TAKING ACTION
ON ITEM 38. IF THERE IS NO
OBJECTION, ITEMS 2 THROUGH 37
ARE REMOVED FROM TODAY'S
AGENDA. HEARING NO OBJECTION,
ITEMS 2 337 ARE REMOVED FROM
TODAY'S AGENDA COME AND WE
WILL ONLY CONSIDER ITEM 38. THE
AMENDED AGENDA IS BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE, AND AT THIS TIME,
THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
COUNCILMEMBERS TO MOVE TO AMEND
THE AGENDA, TO ADD ITEMS TO THE
AGENDA. ONLY NEW BUDGET
PROPOSALS THAT ARE ON THE
AGENDA ARE THERE AT THIS TIME.
COLLEAGUES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO RAISE YOUR HAND, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CENTRAL
STAFF FOR ALL THE LAST-MINUTE
WORK YOU HAVE BEEN DOING WITH
SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE ARE
MOVING THE AGENDA FOR. CHAIR, I
MOVE THAT THE PROPOSED AGENDA
BE AMENDED TO ADD HSD004A,
WHICH WAS SITUATED YESTERDAY
AFTERNOON .
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND..
>> THANK YOU. IT IS MOVED AND
SECONDED. THIS AMENDMENT WAS
DISTRIBUTED YESTERDAY.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I SEE YOU,
BUT I WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN
A MINUTE. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, DO
YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR US? DO
YOU WANT TO DO THEM ONE BY ONE?
>> I WANT TO DO THE ONES
DISTRIBUTED BY FIVE. SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT, DO YOU HAVE
A MOTION FOR US?
>> YES, I DO. I REQUEST THE
ITEM NUMBER HSD036A1 TO BE
REPLACED WITH HSD036B1.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED
AND SECONDED. CLERK, CAN YOU
CONFIRM FOR ME THAT THERE WERE
NO FURTHER AMENDMENTS
DISTRIBUTED BY 5:00 P.M.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> WE HAVE THESE MINUTES BEFORE
SPREAD WALK ON AMENDMENT -- AND
I WILL SPEAK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS
THAT I HAVE WITH THIS SITUATION
LATER IN TODAY'S MEETING. THAT
WE HAD A DEADLINE OF NOVEMBER
1st AND A DEADLINE EARLIER THIS
WEEK FOR AN IMPORTANT REASON.
BEFORE US RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A
MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO
INCLUDE WALK ON AMENDMENTS
DISTRIBUTED BEFORE 5:00 P.M.,
HSD44A AND HSD36B. CLERK, WILL
YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
COUNCILMEMBER WOO
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> EPSTEIN.
>> EIGHT IN FAVOR.
>> THE AGENDA HAS BEEN AMENDED
TO INCLUDE HSD44A AND HSD36B.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. I SEE
THAT THERE IS A REQUEST FOR
WALK ON AMENDMENTS THAT WERE
NOT DISTRIBUTED BEFORE 5:00
P.M. YESTERDAY, WHICH REQUIRES
A RULE SUSPENSION. COLLEAGUES,
I AM GOING TO OPPOSE THIS
NOTION BASED ON THE PROCESS
WHICH I ASKED FOR YESTERDAY FOR
NO ADDITIONAL WALK ON
AMENDMENTS. SO THE RULES MUST
BE SUSPENDED . IF THERE IS A
MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES,
THIS IS THE TIME TO MAKE IT.
>> I MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES
TO ALLOW FOR THE WALK ON
AMENDMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO SUSPEND THE RULES.
DO WE NEED A VOTE ON THIS?
>> CORRECT.
>> CLERK, WE PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON SUSPENDING THE RULES TO
ALLOW WALK ON AMENDMENTS TO BE
CONSIDERED, TO BE AMENDED TO
THE AGENDA THAT WERE NOT
DISTRIBUTED BY 5:00 P.M.?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> ABSTAIN .
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> SEVEN IN FAVOR. ONE OPPOSED,
ONE ABSTENTION.
>> THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES
TO SUSPEND THE RULES. IT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE
THREE BEFORE US, HOWEVER, I AM
SEEING THAT THE LAST ONE BEFORE
YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA IS NOT
READY. THAT IS THE LAST ONE TO
COME UP, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE
YOU A MINUTE TO GET OVERLY
ORGANIZED AND READY.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I SEE YOU
HAVE A HAND.
>> YES. SO, I --
>> I GOTCHA.
>> ON BEHALF OF COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, EVEN THOUGH I DISAGREE
WITH THIS ACTION, MOVE TO AMEND
THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE SCLE1. IS
THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THE IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO
INCLUDE SCLC1B1. [ INAUDIBLE ]
. WE WILL TAKE ALL OF THESE IN
ONE VOTE. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA,
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?
>> YES. I MOVED TO AMEND THE
AGENDA TO AMEND S.00881 AND
092SB1.
>> I BELIEVE IT IS 8B1. ONE
PERTAINING TO TRANSIT AUTHORITY
AND THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED
PACKAGE AND THE OTHER
PERTAINING TO THE SOUTH LAKE
UNION CAR, OFFERING AMENDMENTS
AND VERIFICATIONS TO EACH. THAT
ONE IS JUST APPROVED. THANK
YOU. IT WILL BE CIRCULATED
SHORTLY.
>> WHAT I HAVE ON MY SCRIPT IS
THAT WHILE YOU MOVED 8AQ, YOU
NEED TO MOVE 8B1.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. 8B1 IS
KNOWN THAT WE ARE [ INAUDIBLE ]
.
>> COULD YOU PLEASE MOVE B1?
>> WHAT ARE THE APPROPRIATE
NUMBERS? PERTAINING TO THOSE --
>> I GOT YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
SAKA, ON BEHALF OF
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, EVEN THOUGH
I DISAGREE WITH THIS MOTION, I
MOVED TO APPROVE CB S.B1.
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, DO YOU HAVE
ANOTHER MOTION BEFORE US? WE
DID THAT ONE. WHAT WE HAVE
BEFORE US IS SCL1B1, S.102S.
BEFORE I ASKED THE CLERK TO
CALL THE ROLL, CAN I HAVE
CONFIRMATION THAT 102S HAS BEEN
DISTRIBUTED AND IS READY FOR
COMMITTEE ? I'M GOING TO LOOK
TO CENTRAL STAFF AND CLERK ON
THIS. IS A S.102S.B DISPUTED
AND READY FOR REVIEW? WE HAVE
NOT HAD THE ACTUAL VERSION
DISTRIBUTED AT THIS MOMENT.
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA INDICATED IT
WILL BE DISTRIBUTED. IT WILL BE
UP TO THE MEMBERS AT THIS POINT
IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE
AGENDA WITH IT, OR WAIT TILL
LATER TO AMEND THE AGENDA ONCE
IT IS READY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, I'M
GOING TO REQUEST THAT WE HOLD
102SB, SO THAT WE DON'T AMEND
THE AGENDA WITHOUT INFORMATION
THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE.
>> WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. I --
IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE SOME WAY
TO CONSIDER THIS, I SUPPOSE
THAT IS FINE. IT IS APPROVED.
THE LATEST VERSION THAT WAS
CIRCULATED TO ME. EMAILED BY A
CENTRAL STAFF THIS MORNING -- I
JUST APPROVED IT. WE WILL SHARE
IT WITH YOU ALL SHORTLY.
>> THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
AMEND THE AGENDA LATER THROUGH
THE DAY IF WE NEED TO ADD IT AT
THAT POINT WHEN IT IS READY.
>> YEAH. THAT IS S.102.SB.
>> COLLEAGUES, I DON'T KNOW
HOW WELL THIS NEXT LITTLE FACT
IS KNOWN. AT THE FRONT OF OUR
AREA HERE, WE HAVE EVERYTHING
THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING ON
PAPER IN ADDITION TO IT BEING
ONLINE. THIS IS AN ACT OF
TRANSPARENCY TO ALLOW EVERYONE
EQUAL ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION
WE ARE REVIEWING. AT THIS TIME,
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, YOUR
S.102.SB IS NOT ON THE PODIUM.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO HOLD
THE AGENDA UNTIL A LATER POINT.
>> I HAVE A COPY RIGHT HERE. I
DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A FORM
OVER SUBSTANCE DISTINCTION. I
WOULD BE HAPPY TO PASS IT
AROUND.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, WE ALL
NEED THE COPY RIGHT NOW. I'M
GOING TO PAUSE. I'M GOING TO
PAUSE THIS MOTION. I'M GOING
TO ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE GO
INTO RECESS FOR THREE MINUTES.
TWO MINUTES, UNTIL 9:45. IF
THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE
SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE WILL BE
IN RECESS .
>> IS JODY ON?
>> I'M ON.
>> SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE YOU.
>> CLERK, WILL YOU CALL THE
ROLL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH .
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> PRESENT..
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> WE ARE BACK IN ORDER.
PUBLIC, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW
IS IN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE
AGENDA FOR TODAY. WE HAVE
ALREADY HAD ITEMS HSD44A AND
HSD36B ADDED TO THE AGENDA.
WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS THE
RULES HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED BY
VOTE TO ALLOW FOR WALK ON
AMENDMENTS NOT DISTRIBUTED BY
5:00 P.M. THE PREVIOUS DAY. WE
HAVE THREE OF THEM BEFORE US.
SCL1B1, S.102S.B -- AND AT THIS
TIME, I'M GOING TO CONFIRM
THAT THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN
DISTRIBUTED AND ARE AVAILABLE
FOR THE PUBLIC. IS THAT
CORRECT? WE HAVE THAT BEFORE
US. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
AMENDMENTS? THERE ARE NO MORE
AMENDMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA,
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT?
>> I WANT TO CONFIRM WITH YOU
AND ARE CLERK THAT MY TWO
AMENDMENTS FROM THIS MORNING
HAVE BEEN ENABLED PROCEDURALLY.
>> YOU HAVE CB S.B1 AND SCL1B1
BEFORE US.
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER
AMENDMENTS? BEFORE WE TAKE THIS
VOTE ON AMENDING THE AGENDA, I
WANT TO TAKE A POINT OF ORDER
REGARDING THE PROCESS. WHICH
IS, WE ARE ON THE FINAL DAY OF
VOTING. I WILL COME BACK TO
TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND
PUBLIC PROCESS LATER ON IN THIS
MEETING. WE DO NOT HAVE THE
ABILITY TO ACCEPT ANY
ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS IN THE
BUDGET PROCESS AFTER TODAY. WE
DO HAVE A SELECT BUDGET
COMMITTEE AND A CITY COUNCIL
MEETING, WHERE, WITHIN THE
RULES, YOU COULD BRING AN
AMENDMENT. AND THE REASON IT
HAS BEEN STATED SINCE THE
SELECT BUDGET SERIES, WHEN WE
DID THE INITIAL BUDGET
OVERVIEW, THAT THERE IS TIME
BETWEEN HER VOTING SESSION
RIGHT NOW, AND TUESDAY'S VOTE
OUT OF COMMITTEE, IS TO ENSURE
THE ACCURACY OF WHAT WE HAVE
PUT FORWARD BEFORE WE PUT IT
INTO LAW. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF
THIS IS BETWEEN THE CHAIRS
PACKAGE, AND RELEASING AND
TAKING UP HER ITEMS TODAY FOR
THIS WEEK. MANY COLLEAGUES
REQUESTED CHANGES WITHIN THE
CHAIRS PACKAGE TO FIX ERRORS
THAT WERE NOT INTENTIONALLY
MADE, BUT WE ARE WORKING VERY
HARD AND LONG HOURS. AND SO,
FOR US TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE
GOVERNING IN A GOOD WAY, TO
ENSURE THAT WE ARE BEING
ACCURATE WITH OUR WORK, AND
THAT WE ARE ENSURING PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION IN OUR WORK ON
BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF
SEATTLE, THERE IS NO NEW
AMENDMENTS AFTER TODAY'S
MEETING -- THEY ARE NOT
WELCOME. AS I STATED WHEN WE
TOOK AT THIS ITEM, I VOTED
AGAINST THE SPENDING RULES FOR
THE REASONS I STATED. I WILL
NOT BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDED
-- AMENDING THE AGENDA TO
INCLUDE ITEMS NOT DISTRIBUTED
BY 5:00 P.M., DESPITE AGREEING
WITH THEIR SUBSTANCE AT TIMES.
SO, CLERK, WE HAVE SCLC1B1,
S.00881, 092SB1 BEFORE US. WILL
YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> EPSTEIN.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. [
INAUDIBLE ]
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> SEVEN IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED,
ONE ABSTENTION. THE AGENDA WILL
BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE SCL1B1.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT
NEED TO BE INCLUDED ON THE
AGENDA? AT THIS TIME, WE ARE
GOING TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, IF
THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA AS ADOPTED, OR AS
AMENDED, WILL BE ADOPTED.
HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WE ARE GOING
TO MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM OF
BUSINESS. CLERK, WILL YOU
PLEASE READ THE FIRST ITEM OF
BUSINESS INTO THE RECORD?
>> INTRODUCTION AND PROCESS
OVERVIEW.
>> AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE
RIGHT ONTO GROUP D, WHERE WE
LEFT OFF YESTERDAY. COLLEAGUES,
THAT IS ITEM NUMBER TWO.
>> CORRECT. ITEM 1 IS THE
INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW IN
THE CASE OF B2.
>> CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE READ
ITEM NUMBER TWO IN THE RECORD?
>> MODIFICATIONS FOR THE CITY
OF SEATTLE FOR TWO DOZEN 25,
TRAINING POSITIONS EXEMPT FROM
CIVIL SERVICE, QUALIFIED BY A
TWO THIRDS VOTE OF THE CITY
COUNCIL.
>> WE ARE GOING TO BRING BEFORE
US GROUP D, AND WE WILL VOTE ON
THESE ITEMS ONE BY ONE.
COLLEAGUES TODAY, IF YOU ARE
MARATHON RUNNERS, -- I THOUGHT
WE WERE ON MILD 20. I WE ARE AT
MILE 18 AT THIS POINT. MIGHT
HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK A COUPLE.
WHEN YOU ARE ON MILD 20, YOU
ONLY HAVE SIX MILES TO GO. IT
IS THE LONGEST SIX MILES OF
LIFE IF ANYONE HAS HAD THAT
EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE HAD
ALL-NIGHT SESSIONS. PEOPLE WERE
HERE UNTIL 11:00 OR 12:00 P.M.
WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL
WE ARE DONE. TODAY IS THE END
OF VOTING AROUND NEXT YEAR'S
BUDGET. WE WILL GET IT
UNDERWAY. WE'VE GOT GROUP D
BEFORE US. WE WILL TAKE ON WALK
ON AMENDMENTS AT THE END OF THE
AGENDA. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, IS
THAT AN OLD HAND, NEW HAND?
>> YES IT IS.
>> WITH THAT, DIRECTOR NOBLE ,
HOW WOULD WE LIKE TO PROCEED?
ONE BY ONE? SHOULD WE HAVE
CENTRAL STAFF BRIEFED THE ITEM
AND THEN I WILL TURN IT TO THE
SPONSOR AND WE WILL HAVE
DISCUSSION?
>> YES. THAT WAS THE PLAN WE
WERE GOING TO FOLLOW.
>> FANTASTIC. WE ARE GOING TO
HAVE THE FIRST ITEM BEFORE US,
WHICH IS PARTS 10B1.
>> ITEM NUMBER ONE IS
ARTS-010-B-1. THE $100,000
WOULD GO TOWARDS EXTERNAL
CONTROL PLANNING PROCESS,
INTENDED TO PROVIDE A
COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE OF THE
ECONOMY IN SEATTLE COME AND MAP
THE ARTS AND CULTURAL ASSETS.
THE PROVISO IS INTENDED TO BE
PLACED ON $2.5 MILLION WORTH OF
MISSION FUNDS THAT WERE
ALLOCATED FOR THE DOWNTOWN
ACTIVATION PLAN.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES HAS SPONSORED THE
AMENDMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD
TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT
AS I HAVE SAID, THIS IS SORT OF
THE SECOND STEP OF THE PLANNING
PROCESS THAT THE OFFICE OF ARTS
AND CULTURE IS GOING THROUGH
THE. THIS YEAR, THEY CREATED A
STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THIS IS NOW
GOING TO BE LOOKING EXTERNALLY
TO UNDERSTAND THE CREATIVE
ECONOMY IN THE CITY. THE
FUNDING IS A PROVISO, SO THIS
IS NOT ADDING TO THE BUDGET,
AND I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL SHARE THE
COMMITTEE CHAIRS REGULATION ON
THESE, AS WE MOVE THROUGH IT.
AS I STATED YESTERDAY, PROVISOS
ARE NOT NECESSARILY FREE WHEN
THEY HAVE A BODY OF WORK
ALREADY PLANNED FOR IT. I
BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CASE
HERE, SO I WILL BE VOTING NO.
COLLEAGUES, DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. WHILE I
APPRECIATE THE COUNCILMEMBERS
INTRODUCTION OF THIS IMPORTANT
WORK, I DID TALK TO THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE. I KNOW THIS
WORK IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING
ANYWAY. AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, I
KNOW FROM HAVING WORKED AT THE
DEPARTMENT THAT MOST OF THE
PROCESSES FOR DISTRIBUTING
ALLOCATIONS INVOLVE THOSE
CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY
INPUT BECAUSE THEY USUALLY DO
PANELS WHEN THEY ARE REVIEWING
IT. THEY PUT OUT AN RFP, THEN
THEY DO A PANEL FOR A DECISION
ON WHO IS GETTING ORDERED, AND
THAT USUALLY INVOLVES COMMUNITY
MEMBERS. THERE IS COMMUNITY --
ROBUST COMMUNITY INPUT, WHEN
THESE PROCESSES ARE MOVING
FORWARD. SO I FEEL CONFIDENT
BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE
A GREAT JOB. IT IS SOMETHING
THAT THEY HAVE PRIORITIZED. I
THINK THIS IS A DUPLICATION. SO
I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS
PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA. COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> AS CHAIR OF ARTS AND
CULTURE, WELL, I DO RECOGNIZE
THAT CULTURAL PLANNING IS
NEEDED. I DON'T LIKE HOW IT IS
TAKING OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN
ACTIVATION FUND, AND SO, I WILL
BE VOTING NO.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
WOO. COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER
DISCUSSION? COUNCIL PRESIDENT
NELSON.
>> I'M SORRY. I'LL TRY TO
FIND IT IN MY RECORDS, BUT, THE
OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
DID RECENTLY, WITHIN THE PAST
COUPLE OF YEARS DO THE REPORT
ON THE CREATIVE ECONOMY, AND
WHEN I FIND IT IN MY RECORDS, I
WILL DO THAT.
>> THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, ANY
FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES HAS
SPONSORED THE AMENDMENT. YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. I'M DONE.
>> SORRY.
>> CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON CB ARTS-010-B-1?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> NO. NO.
>> TWO IN FAVOR, THE
>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO
NEXT ITEM, ARTS-011S-A-1.
>> ARTS-011S-A-1 IS REQUEST
THAT ARTS CREATE CITYWIDE AND
MUNICIPAL ARTS PLANS. THIS
WOULD ASK FOR TWO SEPARATE
PLANS. ONE IS A PLANT WHERE
ARTS WOULD WORK WITH ALL CITY
DEPARTMENTS FOR ARTS AND
CULTURAL PURPOSES, IN WHICH
ARTS WOULD SERVE AS A CENTRAL
REPOSITORY OF INFORMATION FOR
FUNDING ACROSS THE CITY, IN
ADDITION TO THE DATA AND
OUTCOMES OF THE PROGRAMMING.
SUPPORTED BY THOSE INVESTMENTS.
THE SECOND DOSE EXCUSE ME. A
MUNICIPAL ARTS PLAN THAT
CONTAIN SPECIFIC NARRATIVE
DESCRIPTIONS, INCLUDING, HOW
NEW PROJECTS, FOR PUBLIC ARTS
FUNDING, ARE GOING TO BE
SUPPORTED, THAT WE COMPARE THE
SIZE AND NUMBER OF NEW PROJECTS
TO THE SIZE AND NUMBER OF NEW
PROJECTS SINCE 2015. IT
EXPLAINS HOW IT CONNECTS
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
PARTICULARLY TO COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR. AND PROVIDE A BALANCE OF
FUNDS CARRIED EVER SINCE DIAZ
19. IT WILL BE DUE ON JUNE
30th, 2025.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA HAS SPONSORED THE
AMENDMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THIS IS REQUESTING THAT ARTS
, AS PART OF THE ACTUAL -- ALL
THE PERMITS HAVE TO SUBMIT
ANNUAL WORK PLANS. AS PART OF
THEIR WORKPLAN, THEY NEED TO
INCLUDE THOSE INVESTMENTS THAT
ARE FUNNELING ACTUALLY THROUGH
THEIR DEPARTMENT TO OTHER
SISTER DEPARTMENTS, AND
REPORTING BACK ON WHAT THE PLAN
IS. HOW THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE
BEING DISTRIBUTED, AND OUTCOMES
AND DATA FROM AN ACCOUNTABILITY
AND GOOD GOVERNANCE STANDPOINT.
THAT MUNICIPAL ARTS PLAN, THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT ARTS IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR AS MANAGERS OF
THE 1% FOR PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM,
AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, THE 1% FOR
PUBLIC ART IS THE CITY HAS AN
ORDINANCE BY WHICH DEPARTMENTS
-- CAPITAL DEPENDS -- 1% OF
THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS GO TO
PUBLIC ARTS, THE OFFICE OF
SPORTS AND CULTURE MANAGES
THAT. AS PART OF THAT, THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO BE SUBMITTING AN
ANNUAL PLAN THAT INCLUDES THE
ITEMS THAT [ INAUDIBLE ] , YOU
DESCRIBED IN THE CBA. THEY HAVE
NOT DONE THIS ROBUST OF A PLAN
SINCE 2016, SO THIS IS
REQUESTING THAT THEY DO THIS
PLAN, THEY SUBMIT THIS PLAN.
THEY SUBMITTED A SPREADSHEET
ANNUALLY THAT HAS SOME
INFORMATION, BUT WE ALL KNOW
SPREADSHEETS ARE NOT ACTUAL
PLANS, SO THIS IS JUST
REQUESTING AN ACTUAL PLAN FROM
THE DEPARTMENT, AND AGAIN, THIS
IS A GOOD GOVERNANCE PIECE, AND
ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE, AND ONE
THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED
TO DO, SO, THANK YOU. TO HAVE
YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS ONE DOES
IF THERE IS NO MANY ATTACHMENT
TO THIS , IT IS JUST GOOD
GOVERNANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> THANK YOU. FROM THE CHAIR'S
PERSPECTIVE, AS I STATED
YESTERDAY, STATEMENTS OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT ARE NOT
FREE. IT REQUIRES WORK, TIME
AWAY FROM ANOTHER DUTY SERVING
SATELLITE NEEDS, AND I WILL NOT
BE OPPOSING ANY OF THE SITES
TODAY, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE WAY
PAST THE THI HAD
MADE. THE ITEM DOES NEED TO BE
MOVED. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR
ITEM?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
ARTS-011S-A-1.
>> IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED
AND SECONDED. THE CHAIRS MADE
THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I AGREE WITH THIS. I AM
LISTED AS THE SPONSOR. THE ARTS
LANDSCAPE IS CHANGING
SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THE PASSAGE
OF OPEN DOOR, AND WHILE I AM
NOT NECESSARILY IMPACTING DOSE
THAT WILL IMPACT THE REGION.
HERE IS ALSO SOMETHING WE NEED
TO KEEP IN MIND. WE WILL BE
VOTING ON THE ONE SEATTLE
CONFERENCE OF PLAN, AND THAT
DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THINGS
LIKE SPACE AND OTHER FEATURES
OF OUR LANDSCAPE THAT
CONTRIBUTE TO BILLABILITY
ACROSS THE CITY. I WAS
INTERESTED IN HAVING A LITTLE
SNAPSHOT OF WHERE SOME ARTS
DEFICITS MAY BE, GOING FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
WOO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. AS CHAIR OF ARTS,
CULTURAL PLANNING IS AT THE
CORE OF THE DIFFERENT. [
INAUDIBLE ] I SUPPORT THE
EFFORTS IN CREATING A PLANT
THAT ALIGNS ALL THE PERMITS
WITHOUT SILENT ART SUBJECT
MATTER EXPERTISE AND EFFORTS. [
INAUDIBLE ] THIS INCLUDES
ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY
GROUPS COME AS WELL. IT IS A
BURDEN TO WORK JUST LOOK AT
ARTS AND BE COMPLEMENTING TO
WHAT OED AND THE [ INAUDIBLE ]
IS DOING.
>> COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION? HERE NO FURTHER
DISCUSSION, CLERK, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON ARTS-011S-A-1.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>>
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. SORRY.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> EIGHT IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU. THE MOTION
CARRIES. ARTS-011S-A-1 WILL BE
ATTACHED . COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
CARE-102S-A-1 HAS BEEN
WITHDRAWN?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM,
FG-104S-A-1. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE
THE ITEM?
>> I MOVE FG-104S-A-1.
>> IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. DESPITE IT HAS BEEN
MOVED AND SECONDED.
>> WE HAVE THE ITEM BEFORE US.
TOM, I SEE YOUR HERE TO TELL US
WHAT IS GOING ON.
>> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. ITEM NUMBER 4 IS
FG-104S-A-1. IT IS A STATEMENT
OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT . WE
REQUEST A STAFF TO DEVELOP
LEGISLATION THAT WOULD IMPOSE A
TAX ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES,
INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
SERVICES PROVIDED BY REALTORS,
ARCHITECTS AND COUNTY
CONSULTANTS. THE LEGISLATION
THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIVE TO
THIS REQUEST WOULD INCLUDE THE
NATIVE COMMITTEES BY JUNE OF
2035.
>> IT IS A GREAT COMMITTEE.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, WHO
SPONSORED DAN MINUTE, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE BEEN
TALKING A LOT ABOUT OUR
STRUCTURAL BUDGET DEFICIT, AND
THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO BEGIN
THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT A
COUPLE OF OPTIONS MIGHT BE TO
GENERATE SOME ADDITIONAL
REVENUE. SO, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES EARLIER
IN THE WEEK, IN WASHINGTON
STATE, THE RETAIL SALES TAX
ORIGINALLY APPLIED ONLY TO THE
SALE OF TANGIBLE PERSONAL
PROPERTY AND THIS, BY
DEFINITION, EXCLUDED SERVICES
FROM THE TAX BASE. SINCE 1935,
SOME SERVICES WERE ADDED TO THE
TECH SPACE, INCLUDING
CONSTRUCTION, REPAIR, CERTAIN
AMUSEMENT AND RECREATION, BUT
THAT STILL LEAVES MANY PERSONAL
AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
EXEMPT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE PAY
SALES TAX WHEN WE HIRE A
PLUMBER BUT NOT AN ARCHITECT OR
A REALTOR OR ACCOUNTANT. SO
THIS WOULD IMPOSE A 1% EXCISE
TAX ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
SERVICES PROVIDED BY REALTORS,
ARCHITECTS, ACCOUNTANTS, AND
CONSULTANTS. AND IT IS
ESTIMATED THAT WITH A 1% TAX,
THIS COULD POTENTIALLY GENERATE
ABOUT $70 MILLION A YEAR. JUST
TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE
EARLIER, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT I
CAN JUST ASK CENTRAL STAFF TO
WORK ON THIS NEXT YEAR, BUT I
DID WANT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
IN THE BUDGET CONVERSATION
CONTEXT THIS YEAR THE CALLED
THE QUESTION, AS COUNCILMEMBER
MORT WAS ABLE TO DO, AND
DISCUSS SOME POTENTIAL REVENUE
OPTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES. JUST A REMINDER THAT
EVEN IF THIS MOTION DOES NOT
PASS, CENTRAL STAFF CAN AND
LIKELY WILL LOOK INTO THIS
PROPOSAL BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR
JOB. FROM THE CHAIR'S
PERSPECTIVE, AS THIS WAS AN
ORDINANCE WE WERE ENACTING WITH
THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE'VE HAD
TO DIVE INTO IT, I WOULD OPPOSE
IT, AND I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT
IT IS GOOD FOR US TO LOOK INTO
THIS. I'M ALREADY AWARE OF
SOME CHALLENGES, AND STILL, IT
IS IMPORTANT TO GATHER
INFORMATION, SO, I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AS A
COSPONSOR, I WANTED TO AT MY
VOICE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. IT IS
IMPORTANT FOR US TO BEGIN THESE
CONVERSATIONS. WE WILL DO THAT.
IT WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY
TO LOOK AT THE FULL PICTURE. I
KNOW THERE MIGHT BE CHALLENGES,
BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
BEGIN THESE DISCUSSIONS AND
LOOK AT HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THEM
COME SHOULD THEY EXIST. I WILL
BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I THINK THIS HAS TO GO
THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS. I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS
ON THE LEGALITY, AND QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY. HOW
WOULD THIS AFFECT WORKERS WHO
CURRENTLY CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE
OR BUILD IN SEATTLE. I WANT TO
BE ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE
PROFESSIONS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE
AND BUILD IN SEATTLE, SO I HAVE
A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I WOULD
LOVE TO GO THROUGH THE NORMAL
PROCESS THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC
COMMENT, SO I WILL BE VOTING
NO.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
WOO. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS.
COUNCILMEMBER WOO BEAT ME TO
THE PUNCH. THESE NEXT TO COME
THIS ONE IN THE NEXT ONE, ARE
CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD
BE WORKED THROUGH COMMITTEE.
THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION. THAT
WE DO IT THAT WAY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, I
SEE YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.
>> I THINK MOST PEOPLE KNOW
THAT MY SPOUSE IS A CONSULTANT
IN TOWN, SO I'M GOING TO BE
ABSTAINING ABOUT THIS IS FROM
THIS VOTE. THANK YOU.
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> NEVERMIND.
>> OKAY. COLLEAGUES, ANY
FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE THE
LAST WORD, AND THEN I WILL PASS
IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES -- JUST TO STATE THAT
THIS MISSION BEFORE US IS
SIMPLY INDICATING THAT THERE
WILL BE COMMITTEE WORK DONE
NEXT YEAR, SHOULD
COUNCILMEMBERS -- ANY
COUNCILMEMBER'S REQUEST
CENTRAL STAFF TO WORK ON SUCH A
PROPOSAL, THAT WOULD GO THROUGH
COMMITTEE. THERE IS NO QUESTION
ABOUT THAT. WITH THAT,
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT -- YOU HAVE A NEW
HAND. I DID CALL THE END OF
DISCUSSION.
>> [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED, BUT MOVING FORWARD,
ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH
DISCUSSION, WE ARE DONE. SO,
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED.
>> I APPRECIATE THE
EXPLANATION. I WILL BE VOTING
NO. I FEEL THAT -- I NEED TO DO
MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE I THOUGHT
THERE WERE CERTAIN SERVICES
THAT WASHINGTON STATE ALLOWED
US TO TAX, AND SO, I WILL BE
VOTING NO, ALSO. I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT WE ESTABLISH AN
INTEREST TO HAVE A NEW SOURCE
OF REVENUE. WE ALSO HAVE TO BE
CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING
TO PAY FOR. INSTEAD OF JUST
SAYING WE NEED MORE MONEY, SO I
WILL BE VOTING NO.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, WHO SPONSORED THE
AMENDMENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO REMIND
FOLKS THAT THIS IS A VOTE TO DO
THE RESEARCH ON THIS TAX, AND
WHAT IT MIGHT GENERATE, AND
WILL GO THROUGH THE LEGAL
PROCESS. IT WILL BE REVIEWED BY
LAW, AND GO THROUGH ALL THE
OTHER PROCESSES THAT WE GO
THROUGH, AS WE ARE
DELIBERATING, SO, THIS IS NOT A
VOTE TO PASS THE TEXT. THIS IS
A VOTE TO RESEARCH, SO THAT WE
CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE TAX.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON CB
FG-104S-A-1.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> ABSTAIN.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> FOUR IN FAVOR, FOUR OPPOSED.
ONE ABSTENTION.
>> THAT MOTION FAILS. THERE ARE
ABSTENTIONS. THIS HAS FAILED.
SO CB FG-104S-A-1 DOES NOT
PASS. MOVING ONTO THE NEXT
ITEM, COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON
HAS SPONSORED, WOULD YOU LIKE
TO MOVE YOUR NEXT ITEM?
>> I MOVE CB FG-104S-A-1.
>> IS THERE A SECOND?
>> TOM, TAKE IT AWAY.
>> ITEM 5 IS FG-105S-A-1, WHICH
IS A STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE
INTENT THAT WOULD REQUEST STAFF
TO DEVELOP LEGISLATION THAT
WOULD IMPOSE A 5% TAX ON
DIGITAL ADVERTISING SERVICES,
OR ADDS ON DIGITAL INTERVIEWS,
INCLUDING BANNER ADS, SEARCH
ENGINE ADVERTISING,
INTERSTITIAL ADVERTISING AND
OTHER COMPARABLE ADVERTISING
SERVICES. THE LEGISLATION THAT
WOULD BE RESPONSIVE TO THIS [
INAUDIBLE ] WOULD BE DELIVERED
TO THE TREBLE COMMITTEE NO
LATER THAN JUNE 23rd 2025.
>> THANK YOU, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. TOM DID A
FANTASTIC JOB OF DESCRIBING
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE.
I HAVE ALREADY GIVEN THE REASON
WHY I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR
US TO START ANALYZING RESEARCH
AND LOOK INTO ASSORTED TAXES.
AND IT IS ESTIMATED THAT THIS
KIND OF TAX COULD GENERATE
ABOUT $20 MILLION PER YEAR FOR
THE CITY OF SEATTLE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COMMITTEE CHAIR
RECOGNITION IS THE SAME AS THE
LAST ONE THIS IS SIMPLY A VOTE
TO STUDY THE ISSUES. NOT
NECESSARILY INDICATING MY
SUPPORT OF IT. IT WILL HAVE A
COMMITTEE PROCESS RESEARCH AND
REVIEW. WITH THAT,
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, ARE YOU A
COSPONSOR?
>> I AM.
>> I WILL CALL ON YOU NEXT. YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WANTED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT
FOR THIS, TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS
OF STUDYING ADDITIONAL REVENUE
SOURCES, SO THANK YOU,
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES., FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I WILL
BE SUPPORTING IT.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
WOO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> FOR THE REASONS I STATED
EARLIER, I DON'T THINK IT WILL
ME GET THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS. I DON'T SEE WHY WE
NEED TO PASS THIS IF IT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAYS. ALSO,
I AM CONCERNED. I HAVE CUSHIONS
REGARDING ITS LEGALITY AS WELL
AS HOW IT AFFECTS OUR
JOURNALISM INDUSTRY. I KNOW A
LOT OF LOCAL PAPERS, AS WELL AS
MEDIA, PROFIT AND ARE ABLE TO
SUSTAIN USING SOME OF THIS FORM
OF ADVERTISING, SO I HAVE A LOT
OF QUESTIONS REGARDING HOW THAT
AFFECTS THAT INDUSTRY, AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
WOO. COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON,
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS IS
THERE'S COMES MORE FROM A
WORKFLOW PERSPECTIVE, AS THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT -- WE ARE
GOING TO BE VOTING ON THE PLAN
THIS YEAR. WE HAVE SEVERAL
BODIES OF WORK THAT REQUIRE
EXTENSIVE CENTRAL STAFF TIME
AND EFFORT, SO, I DO NOT WANT
TO REQUEST THAT THEY DISH I'M
NOT GOING TO DIRECT THEM TO
TAKE ON THIS BODY OF WORK. [
INAUDIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT. COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AS I
STATED EARLIER, BASED ON MY
SPOUSE'S WORK, I WILL BE
ABSTAINING ON HIS FOOT.
>> THANKS. COLLEAGUES, ANY
FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, I HEAR THE NOTE YOU
MADE ABOUT YOUR ROLE AS COUNCIL
PRESIDENT AND DIRECTING'S
CENTRAL STAFF'S WORK. I HAVE
NEVER SEEN THEM RESTRICT THE
WORK WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF
THEIR COMMITTEE. I HOPE THAT
WASN'T AN INDICATION OF WHAT
WILL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR.
COLLEAGUES, HAVE NOTHING
FURTHER. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON FG-105S-A-1 ?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> ABSTAIN.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> ABSTAIN.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.. THREE YES, FOR NAYS .
>> IT DOES NOT CARE.
FG-105S-A-1 WILL NOT BE
ATTACHED TO THE CONSTABLE. WE
ARE GOING TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT
ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE
SPONSORED THE ITEM. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO MOVE IT?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
HSD-024-A-1.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED . I HAVE JENNIFER AT
THE TABLE. JENNIFER COME OVER
TO YOU.
>> THIS COUNCIL BUDGET ACTION
WOULD IMPOSE A PROVIDES OF
350,000. THE HUMAN SERVICES THE
PROMPT FOR PURPOSES OF FUNDING
EIGHT SEASONAL WINTER SHELTER
IN DISTRICT 5, THAT WOULD BE
OPEN CONTINUOUSLY THROUGHOUT
THE WINTER MONTHS. THE
HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY WOULD
ADMINISTER THIS FUNDING AND
WOULD UTILIZE [ INAUDIBLE ]
FROM ITS AGREEMENT WITH THE
CITY FOR THE PURPOSES OF
IMPLEMENTING THIS CBA. DID WANT
TO FOLLOW UP THROUGH WITH THE
QUESTION AT THE MEETING EARLIER
THIS WEEK. AROUND, ARE THERE
OTHER SEVERE WINTER SHELTERS?
AS I IDENTIFIED, THERE ARE TWO.
ONE IS AT CITY HALL. AND THEN
ONE, ADDITIONALLY, AT THE
SEATTLE CENTER. THERE WAS A
QUESTION IF THERE WERE SOME
SOUTH OF THE CITY. THERE IS AT
LEAST ONE. I HAVE SOME
INFORMATION HERE. THERE IS AT
LEAST ONE THERE MIGHT BE A FEW
OTHERS. THE INFORMATION IS A
LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR. I'VE NOT
HAD TIME TO CLARIFY IT. THERE
IS A SHELTER. IT IS UNCLEAR IF
THAT IS A PAST PRACTICE OR A
PLANNED FUTURE PRACTICE AND HOW
MANY THAT WOULD BE.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU TO JEN FOR ALL OF
YOUR WORK ON THIS. AND BEING A
GREAT RESOURCE. AS I'VE SAID
BEFORE, SEATTLE HAS A LARGE
HOMELESS POPULATION,
PARTICULARLY AROUND LAKE CITY
AND AURORA. THE CITY'S CURRENT
RESPONSE FOR EXTREME WEATHER
HAS UNFORTUNATELY FAIRED --
FAILED IN REACHING OUT TO THE
PEOPLE LIVING HOMELESS UP IN
DISTRICT 5, AND I WOULD SAY,
MOST OF NORTH SEATTLE. IT
ISN'T LIMITED TO THE
BOUNDARIES OF DISTRICT 5 TO
PROVIDE EMERGENCY SHELTER
DURING WINTER MONTHS. SO, THIS
IS AN ATTEMPT TO HAVE SORT OF A
NEAT MODEL TO HAVE EIGHT
SEASONAL SHELTER IN THE CENTER
OF D5, THINKING ABOUT THE
NORTHGATE AREA, WHICH IS EASILY
ACCESSIBLE BY TRANSIT. TO BE
ABLE TO ACCESS THIS ESSENTIAL
SPACE AND MAINTAIN THE
COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BUILT. IT
IS ONE OF THE REASONS PEOPLE
ARE RELUCTANT TO COME TO THE
SEATTLE CENTER. THE PROVIDERS [
INAUDIBLE ] HAS TALKED ABOUT
THIS. AS HAVE OTHER ADVOCATES
AND PROVIDERS IN DISTRICT 5
ABOUT THE NEED FOR THIS. I HAVE
BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THAT
MEMBER'S OFFICE, AND THEY ARE
ALSO SUPPORTIVE AND RECOGNIZE
THE NEED FOR A SEASONAL
SHELTER, SO, THAT IS WHY. THE
INTENT OF THIS PROVISO IS TO
CREATE A SHELTER ACCESSIBLE TO
PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS THROUGH THE COLD
MONTHS, NOVEMBER THROUGH MARCH,
APPROXIMATELY, AND THOSE PEOPLE
WHO EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT
BARRIERS TO ACCESSING WINTER
SHELTERS DOWNTOWN. AND ALSO,
AND HAVING IT OPEN EVERY DAY
FOR THOSE PERIODS OF TIME, IT
FACILITATES THE BUILDING OF
NECESSARY RELATIONSHIPS THAT
THEN HELPS PEOPLE CREATE THAT
TRUST THAT IS IMPORTANT TO
HELPING PEOPLE TRANSITION INTO
LEASING OR OTHER FORMS OF
PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
SO I RECOGNIZE IT IS A STRETCH.
WE ARE LOOKING AT UTILIZING THE
KRCHA. [ INAUDIBLE ] . I WOULD
ASK FOR MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT
ON THIS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE.
>> I WILL BE ABSTAINING. I WILL
SHARE WHY. DISCUSSION? YOU ARE
MAKING MY HEART SINK. VICE
CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE MY
COLIC BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. I VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE THAT AND AGREE,
THERE IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF
HOMELESS POPULATION IN THE
DEFINED, ALONG LAKE CITY. AT
THE SAME TIME, KRCHA HAS THE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR EXTREME
WEATHER SHELTERING OF FOLKS. I
KNOW WE HAVE RESILIENCE HUBS
THAT THOSE OUT OF THE OFFICE OF
SUSTAINABILITY AND I KNOW, YOU
KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER
CITY ASSETS, SUCH AS LIBRARIES,
WHO NOW HAVE AIR CONDITIONING.
I KNOW LIBRARIES ARE NOT MEANT
TO BE SHELTERS. I'M TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT, WHERE IS THE
CORONATION POINT BETWEEN ALL
THE PIECES COME AND ALSO, WHAT
IS KCRHA'S PLAN FOR SEASONAL
WEATHER SHELTERING? I
APPRECIATE, JEN, YOU BRINGING
UP THAT BEFORE COVID, WE HAD
SOME KIND OF CONTINUOUS,
SEASONAL PROGRAM, BUT NOW WE
DON'T.
>> JEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. THAT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING, THAT PRIOR TO
COVID , AND THIS CAME PARTLY
FROM TRACY, WHO HAS BEEN AROUND
FOR A LONG TIME, THAT THERE
WERE SEASONAL WEATHER SHELTERS
THAT WERE OPEN CONTINUOUSLY.
THAT IS A MODEL THAT THE CITY
HAS MOVED AWAY FROM. THERE WERE
SOME CHALLENGES WITH THAT
PARTICULAR MODEL, ONE OF THEM
JUST BEING STAFFING, BUT I
DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY OR
BACKGROUND ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU, JEN. MAY I
CONTINUE, CHAIR? THANK YOU.
AND, THE OTHER THING IS, THIS
MONEY IS ONE TIME. I DON'T
THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A
ONE-TIME EFFORT. SO,
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, WHILE I
HIGHLY RESPECT YOU AND I DON'T
DISAGREE WITH THE NEED, I WILL
BE VOTING NO FOR THIS, BUT I
WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE
CONVERSATION OR ANY TYPE OF
SUPPORT THAT I CAN PROVIDE FOR
US TO LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE
SURE THIS IS PART OF KCRHA'S
PLAN, BECAUSE IT IS VERY MUCH
NEEDED IN THE D5 AND ACROSS THE
CITY. WE NEED TO DO BETTER. WE
SIGNED THIS LAST WINTER WHEN IT
STARTED. WE GOT A LOT OF EMAILS
FROM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE
FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
SHELTERING DURING EXTREME
WEATHER INSTANCES. BUT I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE AN INVESTMENT. I
JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING
TO COVER IT. AND I WOULD LIKE
TO SEE A MORE ROBUST PLAN, SO
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.
COLLEAGUES, FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU BEING SUCH
A STRONG ADVOCATE. I APPRECIATE
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE BEING SUCH
A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR D5 AND
ALSO PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING
IN THAT AREA. I SIGNED ON AS A
SPONSOR BECAUSE I WAS
INTERESTED IN HAVING THIS
INFORMATION, AND I WILL BE
VOTING AGAINST IT TODAY, NOT
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS ASSET IN
THE NORTH END -- WE POSTED ON
THE REGIONAL COMMITTEE, AND --
OF KCRHA DISH AND I BELIEVE I
WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU
GOING FORWARD, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, IN ENSURING THAT THERE
IS A SEVERE WEATHER DOES THAT
THIS DOES EXIST WITHIN THE PLAN
OF KCRHA GOING FORWARD, BUT
I'M SORRY. I FEEL LIKE I
SHOULD NOT PERMIT THE FUNDING
DOSE PUTTING THE FUNDING OF THE
AGENCY BEFORE UNDERSTANDING
WHERE THE OTHER SERVICES WILL
BE PROVIDED. [ INAUDIBLE ]
THANK YOU FOR STARTING THIS
CONVERSATION. APPRECIATE IT.
>> SO COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS.
THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT
POINTS FOR AND AGAINST. YOU
KNOW, ONE NEW DYNAMIC IS THAT
WE HAVE A NEW CASE HERE AT
KCRHA. WE HAVE A NEW EXECUTIVE
IN CHARGE OF THE CASE HERE AT
KCRHA. IN MY OFFICE, WE HAVE
HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH DR.
KENNISON, AND WOULD LIKE TO
ENGAGE, NOT JUST ON THE
CONGREGATE AMENDMENT FROM
YESTERDAY, BUT ALSO, ISSUES
LIKE THIS. UNDERSTANDING THE
POINTS MADE. I ALSO SEE THIS AS
A WAY TO PROACTIVELY AND
POSITIVELY ENGAGE WITH KCRHA ON
WHAT IS OBVIOUSLY A SHORTFALL
FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE -- FOR THAT
REASON, ACKNOWLEDGING ALL THE
POINTS MADE, BUT WITH THIS NEW
DYNAMIC, I WANT TO SUPPORT IT.
I WILL BE VOTING YES ON THIS
ONE
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE. COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION? I'M GOING TO CALL
LAST CALL ON FURTHER DISCUSSION
BECAUSE I'M GOING TO MAKE MY
STATEMENT, AND THEN I WILL PASS
IT OVER. LAST CALL ON
DISCUSSION FOR THIS ITEM.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I WILL BE
ABSTAINING TODAY. I HAVE
ADDITIONAL POLICY
CONSIDERATIONS TO DISCUSS WITH
YOU. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR
ME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION
WITH YOU RIGHT HERE AND NOW. [
INAUDIBLE ] ALSO, THE WEIGHT
YOU DESCRIBED THE NEED IS SO
INCREDIBLY ACCURATE. I JUST
REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
NINE MONTHS -- 11 MONTHS AFTER
TAKING OFFICE, YOU HAVE THAT ON
THE GROUND UNDERSTANDING OF
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CITY. I
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU,
COLLEAGUES, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND I
APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR THE
IDEA. I GUESS, BECAUSE I HAVE
BEEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS
WITH KCRHA AND WITH THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE CHAIR
OF THE COMMITTEE, I THINK I AM
A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG IN MY
UNDERSTANDING, PERHAPS, OR
COMFORT, REALLY, WITH MOVING
FORWARD ON THIS, AND THAT IS
WHY I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. I
CAN SAY THAT I WAS IN
DISCUSSION WITH THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE BECAUSE MY INITIAL
PROPOSAL WAS NOT TO USE THE [
INAUDIBLE ] TO USE THE UNDER
SPEND. I'VE ALSO HAD
DISCUSSIONS WITH KCRHA ABOUT
THE NEED FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, I,
TOO, SUPPORT KCRHA , HAVING
COWRITTEN WITH THE HELP OF OUR
CENTRAL STAFF IN OUR COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, THE NEW ILA, AND
WANTED IT TO SUCCEED, BUT
SOMETIMES, OLD HABITS DIE HARD,
AND THE HABIT OF LOOKING AT
THIS DOSE AND THAT CAN BE NOTED
BY THE FACT THAT I STARTED
TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR
SEASONAL WINTER SHELTER IN
FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, WITH
KCRHA. ADMITTEDLY, UNDER
DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP, AND THEY
STILL HAVEN'T CHANGED THE
PLAN. THEY HAVEN'T CHANGE THE
PLAN TO LOOK AT SEASONAL
WEATHER SHELTER. THEY NEED A
PUSH, AND THEY ARE MORE
RECEPTIVE TO THE PUSH.
CERTAINLY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
IS RECEPTIVE, TOO, SO I VIEW
THIS AS A WAY TO IN A WAY, DO A
PILOT PROJECT, TO SEE HOW IT
WORKS, TO WORK OUT THE KINKS.
THE PROVIDERS DOSE THIS WOULD
GO OUT TO RFP, BUT I CAN'T SAY
THAT THE PRIMARY PROVIDERS
WOULD BE THE OAKS AND
SHORELINE, WHO HAVE A LONG
TRACK RECORD OF WORKING VERY
SUCCESSFULLY WITH RUNNING THEIR
OWN NON-CONGREGATE SHELTER TO
CONVERTED NURSING HOME. AND
GETTING PEOPLE INTO PERMANENT
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THE
CONTRACT WOULD BE ONLY AWARDED
TO SEASONED, EXPERIENCED
PROVIDERS, SO, WHICH WAS
IMPORTANT TO ME AND ALSO, TO
THE PARTIES HERE, SO, FOR THOSE
REASONS, I AM COMFORTABLE. I
APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES
CONCERNS. AGAIN, I WOULD HOPE
THAT IF THIS DOESN'T PASS
TODAY, THAT WE REALLY MAKE THIS
A REALITY BY NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE
DYING, AND THAT'S NOT OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. COLLEAGUES, WE ARE GOING
TO VOTE ON HSD-024-A-1. CLERK,
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON HSD-024-A-1?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> ABSENT.
>> EIGHT IN FAVOR, ONE
ABSTENTION.
>> THANK YOU. EIGHT IN FAVOR,
ONE ABSTENTION.
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU. THE MOTION
PASSES. HSD-024-A-1 WILL BE
ATTACHED TO CONSTABLE 120905.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING,
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH, IT
IS WITHDRAWN.
>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
ITEM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE
YOUR ITEM?
>> YES. THANK YOU. I MOVE TO
SUBSTITUTE HS-036-B-1, IN PLACE
OF HSD-036-A-1.
>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE
ORIGINAL, AND THEN SHE WOULD
MAKE THAT MOTION, IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> JUST TO HELP YOU OUT HERE,
COUNCILMEMBER WOO, I MOVE
HSD-036-A-1. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> HSD-036-A-1 HAS BEEN MOVED.
COUNCILMEMBER WOO, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
SUBSTITUTE HSD-036-A-1?
>> YES. I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE [
INAUDIBLE ] I MOVED TO APPROVE
HS-036-B.
>> SECOND.
>> COLLEAGUES, I KNOW WE ARE
QUICK TO SECOND,. I MOVED TO
SUBSTITUTE HSD-036-A-1 FOR
HS-036-B-1. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED
AND SECONDED TO SUBSTITUTE THE
BILL. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, I'M
GOING TO TURN TO CENTRAL STAFF
FOR PRESENTATION OF THE
UNDERLYING AMENDMENT, AND THE
CHANGES THAT ARE REQUESTED TO
SUBSTITUTE, AND THEN
COUNCILMEMBER WOO, I WILL PASS
IT OVER TO YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMITTEE.
TAMASO JOHNSON. THE AMOUNTS ARE
REDUCED FROM $100,000-$70,000.
THIS ACTION WOULD INCREASE THE
HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT
BUDGET BY $70,000. ONE TIME IN
2025 FOR CONTRACTED PUBLIC
SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE
LITTLE SAIGON AREA OF THE
CHINATOWN INTERNATIONAL
DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD. COUNCIL
HAS IDENTIFIED WE DELIVER CARE
FOR THIS FUNDING, AND REQUEST
THAT THE DIRECTOR WAVE CONTRACT
TERMS FOR THIS PURPOSE. THE CBA
WOULD DECREASE CITY BUDGET
OFFICE BUDGET IN 2025, REDUCING
FUNDING INTENDED FOR AN
EVALUATION OF THE JUMPSTART
PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX.
>> THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.
COUNCILMEMBER WOO, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. THIS AMENDMENT
SUBSTITUTION WAS SENT OUT
YESTERDAY. I INCLUDED COPIES
FOR EVERYONE TODAY. IN QUEUE,
TAMASO FOR EXPLAINING THE
SUBSTITUTION. I WANT TO EXPRESS
MY SUPPORT FOR THE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT'S AMENDMENT FOR THE
TREATMENT CENTER THAT WILL BE
BROUGHT UP LATER TODAY. [
INAUDIBLE ] I WANTED TO
CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. IT WOULD BE
GREAT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL
LAYERED SERVICES TO BENEFIT AND
HELP LITTLE SAIGON, THIRD PIKE
AND PINE IN THE AREAS AROUND
IT. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE
MOBILE TREATMENT CENTER -- [
INAUDIBLE ] THAT CAN HELP
ADDRESS THE DIRE NEEDS OF
LITTLE SEE YOU -- SAIGON AND
THE C.I.D.. THIS IS WHY WE
LOWERED THAT AMOUNT. THE REASON
WHY WE EVEN MADE THIS ASK IN
THE FIRST PLACE, TO HAVE THIS
MONEY GO TO THE AREA 120905 [
INAUDIBLE ] THERE HAS BEEN A
LONG LINE OF DISINVESTMENT IN
THE LITTLE SAIGON AREA. WE HAVE
SEEN AN UPTICK IN FENTANYL USE
AND SALES, AS WELL AS THE
ILLEGAL MARKET THAT IS
HAPPENING THERE, AND WITH THIRD
PIKE AND PINE, BEING SLOWLY
RESOLVED IN A WAY, MOST OF THAT
ACTIVITY HAS MOVED OVER TO
LITTLE SAIGON AND HAS REALLY
GOTTEN REALLY INTENSE AND [
INAUDIBLE ] IN THE LAST MONTH
OR SO. THIS WEEKEND, THERE WAS
A MASS CASUALTY EVENT WITH
STABBINGS, AND THE BUSINESSES
IN THAT AREA, AS WELL AS THE
RESIDENCE, ARE VERY CONCERNED.
THEY HAVE SENSED THIS CHANGE
AND SEEN THIS CHANGE BUT THEY
ALSO REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS LIKE
THERE FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT WE
DIDN'T HAVE THAT ACTIVITY IN
THAT AREA. I THINK, WITH THE
NAVIGATION CENTER BEING MOVED
IN EARLY JANUARY, WE HAD A
PROPOSAL FOR WDC AND LEAD TO
HELP WITH THAT TRANSITION, AS
WELL AS TO HELP WITH THE
BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS. THE
ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS FOR $2.4
MILLION TO GET US TO --
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. BUT, WE
WERE NOT ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT
MUCH MONEY, SO WE ARE HOPING
THAT THE 70,000 WILL GET US
CLOSER TO THAT GOAL. THE AREA
HAS GOTTEN FUNDING FROM ADAM
SMITH FOR ABOUT $1.4 MILLION IN
OCTOBER 2025. WE ARE HOPING
THAT THIS FUNDING WILL HELP
THAT AREA BE ABLE TO HAVE WDC
AND [ INAUDIBLE ] PRESENCE WITH
THE CONSERVATION MOVE TO GET TO
THAT FUNDING IN OCTOBER. [
INAUDIBLE ] SO, I ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
WOO. FROM THE BUDGET CHAIRS
PERSPECTIVE, I SUPPORT
EVERYTHING YOU SAID. I WILL
SPEAK TO THAT LATER, BUT THE
FUNDING SOURCE IS NOT ONE THAT
THE BUDGET CHAIR CAN SUPPORT,
SO I WILL BE VOTING NO BASED ON
THE FUNDING SOURCE, BUT I WILL
SPEAK TO THE MERITS OF YOUR
REQUEST AT THE END OF
DISCUSSION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT
NELSON, I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR
HAND.
>> I'M SORRY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, AS YOU
HAVE YOUR HAND.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS. I
WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS IN THE
SENSE THAT [ INAUDIBLE ] WE
HAVE DONE A GREAT AMOUNT OF
WORK THIS YEAR. WE'VE GOT A
LOT OF BILLS GOING ON THAT HAVE
BEEN PASSED. THEY ARE BEING PUT
INTO PLACE NOW. THEY ARE BEING
STOOD UP NOW, AND, WE ARE IN
THIS BRIDGING MOTION BEFORE WE
GET TO A BETTER PLACE ONCE ALL
THOSE BILLS AND THOSE EFFORTS
ARE REALLY, TRULY UP AND
RUNNING, AND EFFORTS AND
WORKING WITH GROUPS LIKE WE
DELIVER CARE ARE IMPORTANT,
PARTICULARLY IN THESE
TROUBLESOME AREAS OF C.I.D..
WHAT I CALL THIRD DOWNTOWN
BELLTOWN. THE LAST TIME, I WILL
SAY THE TERM THIRD PIKE AND
PINE. I WILL NOT SAY THAT
ANYMORE. IT IS THIRD DOWNTOWN
BELLTOWN. WE HAD TO HAVE THE
FLEXIBILITY, THE OPERATIONAL
FLEXIBILITY, WITH ALL HANDS ON
DECK, WHETHER IT IS SPD,
C.A.R.E., THE NONPROFITS AND
THE LIKE. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE
CHALLENGE FLEXES, SO WE KNOW
THAT THIS MASS CASUALTY EVENT
IN THE C.I.D., THAT WE NEED TO
HAVE THIS FLEXIBILITY AND HAVE
ALL THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX,
ESPECIALLY AS WE ARE IN THIS
BRIDGING FUNCTION FROM ALL THE
WORK WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS
YEAR IN TERMS OF GETTING TO A
BETTER PUBLIC SAFETY POSTURE
FOR THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WOO,
AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> IF THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE,
THERE WAS A MIC DROP.
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA AND THEN
COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I AM
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AMENDMENT WE
HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
DAYS ALONE, BUT NEWS ARTICLES
ABOUT THE SITUATION AT 12th AND
JACKSON. FOR A LONG TIME NOW, I
HAVE BEEN FEELING THAT THE
C.I.D. DOES NOT GET THE
ATTENTION IT NEEDS TO GET. WE
NEED TO DO BETTER. THIS IS, AS
COUNCILMEMBER WOO SAID, A STEP
IN THAT DIRECTION. I WILL SAY
THAT I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT
THE COORDINATION PIECES BETWEEN
ALL THESE EFFORTS THAT WE ARE
DOING, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
HOW WE ARE GOING TO COORDINATE
THESE RESPONSES THAT WE ARE
DOING IN THE VARIOUS
NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE I KNOW
WE ALSO HAVE EXPANSION OF OUR
CARE PROGRAM, AND SOME OTHER
EFFORTS OF THIS NATURE. WE
DELIVER C.A.R.E. AND OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS, AS WELL.
DEFINITELY, WE NEED SOME TYPE
OF COURT NATION POINT. I HAVE
HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT I
APPRECIATE, ABOUT THIS
IMPORTANT COORDINATION PIECE.
ALL THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN,
INCLUDING IN THE C.I.D.. I
BELIEVE PART OF THE RESTORATION
DIRECTOR WILL BE COORDINATING
SOME OF THAT WORK, SOLOOK
FORWARD TO GETTING THAT
INFORMATION, BECAUSE IT IS
IMPORTANT, FROM AN
ACCOUNTABILITY STANDPOINT, AND
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
MEETING ALL THE NEEDS , AND
WHAT, AND HOW MUCH WE ARE
PUTTING INTO ALL OF THESE
EFFORTS, SO, I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS, AND I ALSO
WANTED TO SAY, ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE COORDINATING,
THE COORDINATION EFFORTS,
MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA. COUNCIL PRESIDENT
NELSON, AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> I MUST SAY THAT I TOO PAUSED
ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCE, SO I
DID ASK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE A
LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT
THE EVALUATION. I WAS ASSURED
THAT THIS WORK WILL GET DONE. I
ALSO TRUST THAT COUNCILMEMBER
WOO KNOWS WHAT THE COMMUNITY
NEEDS , AND SO I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS. THANK YOU.
>> OH, SORRY. THANK YOU,
COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> I WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY
APPRECIATE THIS CBA. I THINK IT
IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE
WORKING WITH WE DELIVER CARE,
AND THAT WE PARTICULARLY MOVE
SOME OF THAT FOCUS, THAT I HAVE
TO AGREE WITH THE CHAIR THAT
THE FUNDING SOURCE IS REALLY
PROBLEMATIC FOR ME, ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE THIS IS THE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE -- IT HAS NOT BEEN
SEEDED FOR FOUR YEARS. WE ARE
LATE TO THE GAME IN BEING ABLE
TO UNDERSTAND BEST HOW THE
JUMPSTART PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX
IS PERFORMING, SO I CAN'T
SUPPORT THIS, BUT REALLY ONLY
BECAUSE OF THE PARTICULAR
FUNDING SOURCE IT IS TAKEN
FROM. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
COLLEAGUES? SEEING NONE, MADAM
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL
THE ROLE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> SEVEN IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU. THE MOTION
PASSES, AND HSD-024-A-1 WILL BE
ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL
120905. SORRY. THAT WAS THE
SUBSTITUTE. SO HSD-036-A-1 HAS
BEEN REPLACED BY HSD-036-B-1.
WE STILL HAVE THE MOTION IN
FRONT OF US. THANK YOU FOR
HELPING ME OUT . I WILL MAKE --
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS
FINISHED DISCUSSING THE
AMENDMENT. I WILL SHARE MY
PERSPECTIVE, THEN I WILL PASS
IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER WOO
FOR FINAL COMMENTS. I HAVE
ALREADY SHARED THE FUNDING
SOURCE IS THE ISSUE FOR ME
HERE. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT
THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE THAT THIS
COUNCIL -- OR I GUESS THE
AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THIS
COUNCIL HAS MADE IN CHINATOWN
INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. I KNOW
YOU HAVE MADE INVESTMENTS OVER
THE YEARS. THE HST
TRANSPORTATION SERVICES IS ONE
OF THOSE. COUNCILMEMBER WOO,
YOU CAME TO THE APPOINTMENT
PROCESS THIS YEAR. IT IS VERY
CLEAR THAT YOU ARE THE DAUGHTER
OF SEATTLE, AND THROUGH THIS
PROCESS, BEING A COUNCIL
MEMBER, AND APPOINTED
COUNCILMEMBER, WE HAVE INVESTED
MORE MONEY INTO THE C.I.D.,
SINCE I THINK UNCLE BOB SANTOS
WAS AROUND. WHILE I SEE MORE AS
A SISTER AND NOT AN AUNTIE,
UNCLE BOB BROUGHT AN INCREDIBLE
AMOUNT OF ORGANIZATION AND
RESOURCES TO C.I.D.. ACRS IS
ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES. AND SO,
THROUGH THIS YEAR, YOU HAVE
BROUGHT OVER $1 MILLION OF
INVESTMENT TO THE C.I.D., AND
IT IS REALLY INCREDIBLE. I
SUPPORT THIS WORK. I SUPPORT
YOUR EFFORTS TO GET THE MOBILE
CLINIC DOWN THERE, AS WELL. I
WILL SPEAK TO MY PROBLEMS WITH
THAT SITUATION LATER, BUT I
WANT TO RAISE UP THAT I THINK
IT MIGHT BE HARD TO REACH
GETTING TO UNCLE BOB'S STATUS
IN 11 MONTHS, BUT YOU SURE HAVE
DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. I KNOW
I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE
ATTENTION YOU BROUGHT TO THE
ISSUES THERE, AND YOUR WORK
REFLECTS THAT INVESTMENT. SO,
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
>> YES. THANK YOU. SO, THIS IS
TRYING TO GET FUNDING FOR WDC
PRESENCE AND L.E.A.D. PRESENCE
IN THE 12th. WE HAVE BEEN
WORKING ON THIS FOR 2+ YEARS.
IT IS EXCITING TO SEE THAT
GETTING THAT RECOGNITION ON THE
FEDERAL LEVEL WITH SMITH'S
OFFICE FOR THAT FUNDING,
POPULAR IN OCTOBER 2 DOZEN 25,
IS HELPING [ INAUDIBLE ] TO
MATCH THAT INVESTMENT. AHEAD OF
THAT FUNDING WITH THAT
NAVIGATION CENTERED TRANSITION
AND EARLY [ INAUDIBLE ] WHILE
WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE
RECOGNITION AND THE RESOURCES
THAT ARE BEING IN PLACE, IN
LITTLE SAIGON CURRENTLY, WITH
EMPHASIS CONTROLS, AND THE
ACTIVATION FROM THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
WEEKS, IT IS NOT A CONSTANT
PRESENCE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE
ARE HOPING FOR. WE HAVE HEARD
TESTIMONY THAT KIDS ARE AFRAID,
GETTING ONTO SCHOOL BUSES. SOME
AT SIERRA HIGH SCHOOL IS NEXT
TO THE LITTLE SAIGON AREA. WE
ARE HEARING FROM SENIORS AND
ELDERS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT
GETTING -- SNEAKING INTO THEIR
SENIOR HOUSING AREAS AND
KNOCKING ON THEIR DOORS AND
TRYING TO BREAK INTO THEIR
ROOMS AT NIGHT. SENIORS DON'T
COME OUT AFTER 4:00. WE HAVE
2000 SENIORS LIVING IN THAT
AREA. ALSO, BUSINESSES HAVE
TOLD ME THAT THEY, YOU KNOW,
PEOPLE IN CRISIS SITUATIONS
COME INTO THEIR STORES, AND
THEY DON'T KNOW TO DO. THEY
DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO CALL. AND
SO, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE
PRESENCE TO HELP BUSINESSES, AS
WELL AS OUR KIDS, WHO LIVE
THERE, FAMILIES, AND OUR
SENIORS. WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING
ON LITTLE SAIGON, AS WELL IS
GETTING PEOPLE THE RESOURCES
THEY NEED TO COME INSIDE, OR TO
BE ABLE TO FIGHT ADDICTION,
AND, YOU KNOW, WE SEE A LOT OF
ILLEGAL MARKET THERE, AS WELL
AS DRUG SALES. WHICH, HAS,
UNFORTUNATELY, FLOURISHED IN
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. I
THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS
ADDITIONAL PRESENCE, AS WELL AS
A CONSTANT PRESENCE, AND I ASK
FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND THANK THE
COUNCIL AND THE CITY FOR
EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE FOR
THE DISTRICT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
WOO. THAT WAS THE FINAL
DISCUSSION. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
SUBSTITUTING HSD-036-B-1?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> SEVEN IN FAVOR, TO MAKE A
POST.
>> IN QUEUE. THE MOTION PASSES.
HSD-036-B-1 IS ATTACHED TO
COUNCIL BILL 120905. LET'S
MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I BELIEVE
YOU ARE THE SPONSOR.
>> THANK YOU, SURE. I WOULD
LIKE TO MOVE HSD-039-A.
>> THIS WOULD INCREASE FUNDING
BY 527,000 AND JUMP START FUNDS
IN 2025 AND 2026, AND REDUCE A
SIMILAR APPROPRIATION [
INAUDIBLE ] THIS WOULD
ESSENTIALLY BE A TRANSFER OF
JUMPSTART FUNDS FROM [
INAUDIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THIS WOULD
MOVE ALL THE MONEY, CONTRACT
FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE,
INCLUDING RENT ARREARS INTO HSD
TO ALLOW FOR HOPEFULLY
ADDITIONAL CLARITY IN WHAT
RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS AVAILABLE
AND SOCIALIZE THE ADMIN
SHOULD'VE WORK IN CONNECTING
THIS FUNDING TO THE
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE GETTING
IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
SERVED. THIS ACTION TRANSFERS
THE APPROPRIATION TO HSD. THE
APPROPRIATION WILL BE DISPERSED
BY HSD TO COVER RENT ARREARS
UPON NOTIFICATION OF SETTLEMENT
OF EVICTION ACTIONS, AND WOULD
ALSO MAKE THAT DISPERSAL
CONTINGENT UPON THE HOUSEHOLD
REMAINING HOUSE, WHICH ISN'T
ALWAYS HAPPENING, SO THIS IS A
WAY TO EFFICIENTLY ALLOCATE
RENTAL ASSISTANCE. EFFICIENT
ALLOCATION OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE
IS ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES FOR
THIS BUDGET CYCLE, AND I
BELIEVE THAT HSD, SINCE THEY
HOLD MOST OF THE RENTAL
ASSISTANCE MONIES, IT IS THE
CORRECT PLACE TO DO SO. I WOULD
ENCOURAGE A YES VOTE. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, I SEE YOU HAVE A HAND.
>> I WILL TAKE IT AWAY.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. I DID HAVE
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT
THIS. JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M
UNDERSTANDING, SO HOMELESS
PREVENTION SERVICES, FOR LEGAL
EVICTION DEFENSE, SO, I JUST
WANT TO CLARIFY, THE FUNDING,
THIS FUNDING GOES TO LANDLORDS
ON BEHALF OF TENANTS.
>> IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW
THE FUNDING WILL BE ALLOCATED.
THERE IS A FOLLOWING SLIDE FROM
HSD ON EFFICIENT ALLOCATION. [
INAUDIBLE ] AS IT IS NOW,
APPROPRIATIONS TO THE SEATTLE
THE PROMPT OF CONSTRUCTION
INSPECTIONS FOR RENTAL
ASSISTANCE IS DISPERSED BY THE
HOUSING JUSTICE PROJECT AND [
INAUDIBLE ] IN CONJUNCTION WITH
THE TRICK TO, THAMES LAW CENTER
[ INAUDIBLE ] IN CONJUNCTION
WITH LEGAL DEFENSE. [ INAUDIBLE
] THE DISBURSEMENTS MAY DEPEND
ON THE OUTCOME OF THE EVICTION
PROCEEDING.
>> BUT THE FUNDING IS INTENDED
TO GO TO LANDLORDS TO PAY FOR
ARREARS, RIGHT? OR TO MAKE SURE
THAT EVICTION IS PREVENTED.
>> ULTIMATELY, YES.
>> IT ALSO GOES TO COLLECTION
AGENCIES FOR ARREARS. IS THAT
DOSE
>> I'M NOT SURE.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT
GOES FOR PAST RENTAL DEBT, AS
WELL. I THINK ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS I HAVE DOSE THE WAY
I'M READING THIS IS, SO IT
SAYS THE FUNDS WON'T BE
DISPERSED UNTIL [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> AND I WILL CALL ON
COUNCILMEMBER MORE TO RESPOND.
THANK YOU. MY UNDERSTANDING IS
THAT YOU ARE CORRECT. THE
CATHOLIC COMMUNITY SERVICES --
PART OF THEIR CONTRACT IS THEY
GET MONEY THAT THEY UTILIZE IN
RESOLVING EVICTION CASES BY
ENTERING INTO PAYMENT PLAN,
MAKING PAYMENTS. SOMETIMES,
THOUGH, THE TENANT HAS MOVED
OUT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS,
AND THEN THE LANDLORD STILL
GETS PAID. SOMETIMES, THE
MOVING OUT HAS NOT NECESSARILY
BEEN A WILLING DECISION. SO THE
WAY THIS WOULD WORK IS, WE JUST
SIMPLY ARE GIVING THE MONEY,
INSTEAD OF THEM HAVING THE
MONEY IN THEIR COFFERS, WE PUT
IT INTO HSD. WHEN THE
SETTLEMENT IS REACHED, THEN
THEY WOULD NOTIFY HSD TO
RELEASE THE MONEY, AND IN THAT
NOTIFICATION, THEY WOULD SAY
THE AGREEMENT HAD BEEN REACHED,
THAT THE TENANT IS REMAINING
HOUSE, THAT THEY HAVE NOT LEFT.
RIGHT. SO IT IS AN EMPTY UNIT.
THE LANDLORD IS GETTING THE
BACKPAY. IT IS JUST AN EXTRA
SAFEGUARD, WHICH, [ INAUDIBLE ]
AND THOSE GROUPS -- THIS ISSUE
WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION,
THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT BOX
WAS CHECKED. I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING TO
UNDERSTAND HOW THE DELAY OF
DISBURSEMENT HELPS WITH GETTING
THE ARREARS PAID. I GUESS WHAT
I WILL SAY IS, YOU KNOW, THAT
WE HAVE SOMETHING -- SUBSEQUENT
AMENDMENT THAT WOULD INCREASE
FUNDING FOR THIS RENTAL
ASSISTANCE. IN HSD. AND SO, I
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
KEEP FUNDS IN SCDI FOR TENANT
SERVICES, PARTICULARLY IF WE
ARE INCREASING FUNDING SHORTLY
HERE. ALL THAT TO SAY, I THINK
I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES. I PAUSED FOR A MINUTE
THERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE MY
NOTES IN FRONT OF ME ABOUT THIS
ONE THIS SEEMS MORE LIKE POLICY
-- FROM THE CHEERS PERSPECTIVE,
I WILL BE MAKING
RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON
FUNDING LEVELS, OR, YOU KNOW,
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, YOU HAD
AN AMENDMENT YOU CHANGED TO
MAKE SURE WE ARE DISTURBING
MONEY WELL, AND AN EFFICIENT
MANNER. THIS IS A POLICY
MATTER. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN
BECAUSE I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS
THAN ANSWERS AT THIS TIME. THAT
IS NOT FROM THE CHAIR OF THE
BUDGET COMMITTEE'S
PERSPECTIVE. COLLEAGUES, AND
OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU. AS COSPONSOR OF
THIS LEGISLATION, I WILL SAY
THAT I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE, AS
CHAIR OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE,
HAS DONE HER DUE DILIGENCE ON
THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND
RENTAL SERVICES AND EVERYTHING
THAT ENCOMPASSES THAT? I'M IN
FAVOR OF EFFICIENCY IN MAKING
SURE THAT WE ARE RUNNING
SIMILAR PROGRAMS UNDER ONE
DEPARTMENT, RATHER THAN ACROSS
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. I KNOW
THAT HSD IS THE MAIN DEPARTMENT
IN MY MIND, HERE, AS OPPOSED TO
SDCI. BECAUSE SDCI -- I GET
THAT THEY ARE THE COMPLIANCE
DEPARTMENT FOR SOME OF THIS
STUFF, BUT THEY ARE NOT THE
ONES THAT ARE REALLY WORKING
WITH THE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE
INTENDED FOR THIS INVESTMENT,
SO I SEE THIS AS, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE ADDRESSING THE , HOW DO
WE PUT ALL THE FUNDING SERVICES
THAT ARE INTENDED FOR ONE
CONSTITUENCY, AND TO ADDRESS A
SIMILAR ISSUE UNDER ONE
UMBRELLA, AND I SEE THAT AS A
GOOD GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY
PIECE. SOMETIMES, WHEN IT'S
DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT APART --
DEPARTMENTS, WE START TO LOSE
TRACK, AND IT IS NOT CORD
NEEDED, AND SO THIS IS WHY I
LENT MY NAME TO SPONSORSHIP OF
THIS LEGISLATION, AND WHY I
WILL BE VOTING FOR IT. SO THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COLLEAGUES, FURTHER
DISCUSSION? LAST CALL ON
FURTHER DISCUSSION. LAST CALL
ON FURTHER DISCUSSION. LET'S
CALL ON FURTHER DISCUSSION.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, I HAVE
NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON ITEM HSD-024-A-1.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> ABSTAIN.
>> SEVEN IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED,
ONE ABSTENTION.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES.
HSD-024-A-1 WILL BE ATTACHED TO
COUNCIL BILL 120905. WE ARE
GOING TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT
ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU
ARE A SPONSOR OF THIS NEXT
ITEM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE
YOUR ITEM?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WOULD
LIKE TO MOVE HSD-040S-A.
>> IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO APPROVE HSD-040S-A.
MR. FREEMAN, BACK TO YOU.
>> HSD-040S-A IS STATE OF
LETTERS THAT IF INTENT TO STATE
THAT HSD REPORT ON HOW BEST TO
DISTRIBUTE TO HOUSEHOLDS AT
RISK OF HOMELESSNESS. THE
REPORT WOULD BE DUE TO THE
COUNCIL NO LATER THAN JUNE
30th, 2025, AND PRIOR TO
ISSUANCE OF THE NEXT RFP FOR
HOMELESS PREVENTION SERVICES,
AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE REPORT
WOULD INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION OF
RESEARCH AND BEST PRACTICES, AN
EXPLANATION -- OUTCOME DATA FOR
RESPONSE IT'S, AND THIS IS
SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES,
AND COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. FREEMAN.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. TO THE
ISSUES OF GOOD GOVERNANCE,
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TRYING TO
HOUSE ALL RENTAL ASSISTANCE IN
ONE PLACE. OH AS -- HAS AN
UNDERSTANDING. HSD HAS RENTAL
ASSISTANCE MONEY, AS WELL. THAT
MONEY GOES OUT.I THINK THERE
ARE 11 COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY
CONTRACT WITH TO DISTRIBUTE
THAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND,
THIS IS TRYING TO GET BACK TO
FIGURING OUT, WHAT IS THE BEST
WAY, SHOULD WE CONSOLIDATE TO
HAVE ONE MAJOR CONTRACT LIKE
WITH UNITED WAY? OR SHOULD WE
CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE SMALLER
GROUPS, AND ALSO, HOW DO WE
PROACTIVELY IDENTIFY HOUSEHOLDS
BEFORE THEY GET INTO TROUBLE?
AND I NOTE THIS IS A CUTTING
EDGE ISSUE IN HOMELESSNESS
WORK, ABOUT WHAT ARE THE RED
FLAGS? THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO
FURTHER EXPLORE THAT AND SEE
WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE
DOING. AND THEN GET BACK TO US
WITH THE REPORT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. THIS IS A STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT FOR WAYS TO
MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE EFFICIENT,
WHICH FALLS UNDER GOOD
GOVERNANCE. WE WILL BE
SUPPORTING IT. COLLEAGUES --
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT,
FIRST, AND THEN I DO HAVE I
GUESS AN ORAL AMENDMENT, IF I
MIGHT.
>> SORRY. POINT OF ORDER -- THE
SAME ROLES AS YESTERDAY APPLY
TO VERBAL AMENDMENTS, WHICH,
ESSENTIALLY, COLLEAGUES, YOU
HAVE TO HAVE TOLD CENTRAL
STUFF, OTHERWISE, THEY WILL NOT
BE READY, AND WE HAD TO HAVE IT
UP ON THE BOARD. IT LOOKS LIKE
WE DO. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES. BACK TO YOU.
>> THE FIRST THING I WANT TO
SAY, AS COUNCILMEMBER MOORE
MENTIONED, THERE ARE SEVERAL
ORGANIZATIONS RIGHT NOW THAT
HELP IDENTIFY , PARTICULARLY IN
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, WHO NEEDY
FAMILIES ARE, AND FAMILIES THAT
ARE AT RISK, SO I DO THINK THAT
IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF
CONTRACTING WITH LOTS OF
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, SO,
YOU KNOW, [ INAUDIBLE ] FINDS
PEOPLE THAT SPEAKS SPANISH AND
THEY CAN PROVIDE TENANT SERVICE
TO THEM, OR SOMALIA FAMILY
SERVICES, OR REFUGEE WOMEN'S
ALLIANCE. I DO THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER
THAT SOME OF THESE STEPS THEY
MAY BE VERY SMALL
ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THEY ARE
CONTRACTED BECAUSE THEY HAVE
ACCESS TO COMMUNITIES THAT, YOU
KNOW, HSD MIGHT NOT TYPICALLY
CONTRACT WITH, OR HAVE ACCESS
TO. THAT SAID, I DO THINK THAT
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE
UNDERSTAND HOW WE MIGHT DO ALL
OF THIS WORK BETTER, AND SO
THAT IS THE SPIRIT BEHIND THIS
AMENDMENT. WHICH, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE AND I DISCUSSED.
ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE MOVING
MONEY OUT OF SDCI, THAT THIS
REPORT INCLUDES SDCI, SO WE CAN
GATHER INFORMATION FROM BOTH
AGENCIES, BOTH DEPARTMENT, AND
THEIR EXPERIENCES, AND COME
ACROSS THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>> OKAY. I MOVE AMENDMENT -- I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
>> I WILL HELP YOU OUT. IT IS
AMENDMENT VERSION 2 OF -- THERE
IS DISCUSSION BUT I AM LOSING
MY MIND ON DAY THREE OF VOTING.
COLLEAGUES, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES IS A SPONSOR OF THE
AMENDMENT. YOU HAVE ADDRESSED
IT. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE IS A
SPONSOR OF THE UNDERLYING
AMENDMENT. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE SPOKEN TO
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES ABOUT
THIS ADDITION, AND I DO
CONSIDER IT A FRIENDLY ADDITION
AND A GOOD IDEA.
>> THANK YOU. DISCUSSION ON THE
AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
SEEING NOT COME WITH THE CLERK
CALL ROLE ON AMENDING 120905 --
HSD-040S-A-1 FOR VERSION 2.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> AMENDMENT HSD-040S-A-1 HAS
BEEN REPLACED BY VERSION 2.
COLLEAGUES, IS THERE DOSE WE
HAVE DISCUSSED THE NOTION
ANYONE HAVE -- [ INAUDIBLE ]
GREAT. I HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT
THIS IS GOOD GOVERNANCE.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE , ANY
FURTHER DISCUSSION?
>> NO.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON HSD-040S-A-1,
VERSION 2?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> NINE IN FAVOR, NOT OPPOSED.
>> HSD-040S-A-1, VERSION 2 WILL
BE ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL
120905. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO
THE NEXT ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, THE NEXT ITEM IS YOURS,
AS WELL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE
THE NEXT ITEM?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AT THIS
TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
HSD-041-A-1.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO -- FOR HSD-041-A-1.
[ INAUDIBLE ]
>> HSD-041-A-1 WOULD INCREASE
APPROPRIATIONS TO HSD BY 2.3
MILLION JUMP START FUND 2025
FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
APPROPRIATION, TOGETHER WITH
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET,
001 A1 WHICH APPROPRIATE 9
MILLION IN 2025, UPPER PATIENTS
FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO
APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION. [
INAUDIBLE ] THIS IS SPONSORED
BY COUNCILMEMBERS MOORE, SAKA,
AND MORALES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I'VE BEEN
SORT OF A BROKEN RECORD LATELY.
WE KNOW THAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE
IS FAR AND AWAY THE MOST
COST-EFFECTIVE WAY AT KEEPING
PEOPLE IN HOUSING, RATHER THAN
TRYING TO GET PEOPLE BACK INTO
HOUSING ONCE THEY ARE ON THE
STREET, OR LIVING IN THEIR CARS
OR RVs. AS HAS BEEN STATED
HERE, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF
BACKEND WORK IN PUBLIC SAFETY,
BUT WE ARE ALSO REALLY LOOKING
AT TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE IN
THE PUBLIC SAFETY ARENA, AND I
WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT BEING
PROACTIVE IN THE HOUSING ARENA,
AS WELL. THE HOMELESSNESS
ARENA. AND THIS IS REALLY THE
IMPETUS FOR THIS. AS I
MENTIONED, THERE IS THE UNITED
WAY, WHICH PROVIDES -- THEY ARE
ONE OF THE MAJOR PROVIDERS OF
RENTAL ASSISTANCE DURING COVID.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE 5600 PEOPLE
IN SEATTLE WHO ARE ON A WAIT
LIST FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT NEEDING
$10 MILLION TO RESOLVE THEIR
BACKLOG. THIS IS 3.3. COMING
FROM JUMPSTART. I THINK, IN THE
LONG RUN, IT WILL SAVE US MONEY
IF WE ARE ABLE TO GIVE GRANTS
OF 500, $1000, SOMETIMES
SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS, TO
KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED. AND I DO
WANT TO JUST REITERATE THE
STATISTICS THAT WE HAVE IN
TERMS OF LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO
ARE ALREADY RECEIVING THE
SUBSIDIES FOR THEIR HOUSING
UNDER THE MULTI FAMILY TAX
EXEMPTION CREDIT PROGRAM, WHICH
IS 60% AMI, 25% OF THOSE
INDIVIDUALS ARE SEVERELY COST
BURDENED, SO THEY ARE PAYING
50% OF THEIR RENT -- OF THEIR
INCOME IN RENT AND UTILITIES.
IN ACROSS THE CITY, WE HAVE 19%
OF HOUSEHOLDS ARE SEVERELY COST
BURDENED. AND RENT -- I THINK
WE HEAR THIS FROM EVERYBODY.
RENT REMAINS A SIGNIFICANT
CHALLENGE IN OUR CITY, AND SO,
THIS IS A WAY TO BEGIN TO CHIP
AWAY AT THAT, AND TO PROVIDE,
AGAIN, A PROACTIVE SAFETY NET,
AND I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES
FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. FROM BUDGET CHAIRS
PERSPECTIVE, I SUPPORT THE
FUNDING ALLOCATION, BUT I DO
NOT SUPPORT THE FUNDING SOURCE.
COLLEAGUES, WE WERE FORCED TO
USE MORE MONEY FROM THE
JUMPSTART RESERVE FUND THAN
ORIGINALLY DESIRED BECAUSE OF
THE DOWNTURN FORECAST MID
BUDGET CYCLE. THROUGH
CORRECTING OF ERRORS AND THE
WORK THAT IT DOES TO CHECK THE
DETAILS BETWEEN THE CHAIRS
PACKAGE AND THIS WEEK, WE WERE
ABLE TO FIND A LITTLE BIT MORE
MONEY TO BUFFER THAT. THAT IS
THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE IS
IDENTIFYING . FOR THOSE
REASONS, I WON'T BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT, ALTHOUGH
I SUPPORT INCREASING RENTAL
ASSISTANCE. COUNCILMEMBERS,
FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRESS, AND
I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON MY
FINANCE COMMITTEE HAD ON, AND
SECOND WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
OBVIOUSLY, RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS
AN APPARENT TOPIC. I UNDERSTAND
THROUGH THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED
BUDGET THROUGH HSD AND SDCI,
WHICH WILL SOON BE ALL HSD, IS
VERY IMPORTANT, BUT AS YOU
NOTED, THIS IS BUDGETING 101,
AND WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE
RESERVE IS THERE, PARTICULARLY
GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE MAIN
RESERVE WAS DEPLETED, AS YOU
KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE FORECAST
POINTS. BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT
IS GOING TO BE GUIDING MY VOTE.
THANK YOU, CHAIR STRESS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WILL
SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MANY OF
THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
ON THIS ISSUE IN VARIOUS FORMS
INCLUDING JUST NOW BY THE
SPONSOR, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
AND COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE'S
COMMENTS AS WELL. I WILL JUST
ADMIT THAT THIS ONE HAS BEEN
PARTICULARLY A PERPLEXING
DECISION FOR ME IN TERMS THAT
ARE CHALLENGING DECISION FOR
ME, PROBABLY THE MOST -- THE
SINGULAR BIGGEST DECISION THAT
I'VE HAD TO GRAPPLE WITH
DURING THESE BUDGET
DELIBERATIONS OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW, ALTHOUGH
THIS ONLY CAME UP IN THE LAST
COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO, I AM --
THERE IS DEFINITELY MERIT ON
EITHER WAY -- WHEREVER YOU LAND
ON THIS ISSUE. I AM GOING TO
SUPPORT IT. I DON'T LOVE THE
SOURCE, TO YOUR POINT, MR.
CHAIR. BUT, IT IS FOR NOT ONLY
A GOOD CAUSE, BUT AN ESSENTIAL
CAUSE, SUPPORTING THOSE
DESPERATELY IN NEED OF STABLE
AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I THINK
THIS IS A CRITICAL, CRITICALLY
NEEDED UPSTREAM INVESTMENT THAT
WE CAN MAKE NOW IN THIS MOMENT
TO PREVENT SOME OF THE -- WHAT
WE KNOW TO BE DOWNSTREAM
IMPACTS. PEOPLE INCREASING --
INCREASING AMOUNT OF PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, AND
SO, I THINK NEXT YEAR, AND
GOING FORWARD, I WILL
PERSONALLY BE A LITTLE MORE
CAUTIOUS, BUT THIS YEAR, I
THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS
BIGSHOT IN LARGE PART BECAUSE
IT IS AN IMPORTANT PREVENTATIVE
MECHANISM, AND I THINK
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE AND HER
LEADERSHIP FOR BRINGING IT
FORWARD, AND IN HER CAPACITY AS
CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, FOR
LEADING AND CONTINUING TO LEAD
AND DRIVE ON THESE ISSUES.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO BE
SUPPORTING THIS PAPER TODAY,
INDICATED THAT SEATTLE IS IN
PART DEALING WITH THE INFLATION
WE ARE DEALING WITH BECAUSE OF
OUR HOUSING COSTS. WE KNOW THAT
50% OF SEATTLEITES, OUR
NEIGHBORS, WE KNOW THAT HOUSING
IS GOING UP, AND THAT PEOPLE
ARE AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS IF
THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO STAY IN
THEIR HOMES. SO, I DO BELIEVE
THAT THE CASE MANAGEMENT
PROVIDED BY HSD IS AN IMPORTANT
PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM. I DO
ALSO BELIEVE THAT THESE FUNDS
SHOULD BE CONNECTED WITH
EDUCATION OF RENTERS ON WHAT
THEIR RIGHTS ARE AND WHAT KIND
OF RESPONSIBILITIES THEY HAVE,
SO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME
CONNECTION THERE, BUT I AM
GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS IN
A YEAR, WHEN WE ARE SPENDING
TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON
OTHER THINGS THAT DON'T
PREVENT HOMELESSNESS. I THINK
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS
ONE TIME SWAP TO MAKE SURE WE
ARE KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR
HOMES. THANK YOU.
>> WELL SAID. COLLEAGUES?
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I ALSO
HAVE -- THIS IS A DIFFICULT
DECISION. I VERY MUCH SUPPORT
RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND YET, I
AM CONCERNED ABOUT TAKING THE
LAST OF THE JUMPSTART RESERVES
FOR THIS PURPOSE. BECAUSE OF
THAT, I WILL VOTE NO ON THIS,
BUT THAT DOES NOT INDICATE MY
APPRECIATION FOR THE CHAIR, AND
I FULLY AGREE WITH -- SORRY --
THE COMMITTEE CHAIR -- AND I
FULLY AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE -- AND I AGREE WITH MANY
OF YOU ON THIS ISSUE. I THINK
WE ALL SUPPORT RENTAL
ASSISTANCE, AND THEN, ALSO,
GRAPPLING WITH NOT HAVING ANY
JUMPSTART RESERVES TO MANAGE
ANY UNFORESEEABLE THINGS THAT
MAY COME UP IN THE NEXT YEAR,
SO THAT IS WHERE THAT IS COMING
FROM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, AGAIN, FOR ALWAYS
BRINGING THESE ISSUES FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
>> COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION? LAST CALL FOR
FURTHER DISCUSSION. COUNCIL
PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> DURING THE FIRST BUDGET, I
REMEMBER ARGUING FOR THE TOPIC
OF ASSISTANCE FOR RENTERS CAME
UP. I WAS ARGUING VERY STRONGLY
FOR DIRECT --
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, POINT OF
ORDER, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. YOUR
VOICE SOUNDS A LITTLE HOARSE. I
THINK THAT MIGHT BE
CONTRIBUTING.
>> I WAS JUST SAYING THAT IN
THE FIRST BUDGET YEAR, I
REMEMBER WHEN ASSISTANCE FOR
RENTERS CAME UP, I WAS ARGUING
STRONGLY FOR DIRECT ASSISTANCE
TO ACTUAL RENTERS, INSTEAD OF
THROUGH ORGANIZATIONS --
ATTORNEYS, ET CETERA, THAT,
BECAUSE THAT WAS AN EFFICIENT
WAY OF KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSED.
AND, I STILL DO BELIEVE THAT. I
AM ALSO MINDFUL OF THE FACT
THAT I REMEMBER THAT --
REMEMBER ENRON? IT IS
PERFORMING VERY WELL. WE NEVER
KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. [
INAUDIBLE ] I HAVE CONCERN
ABOUT USING THE VERY LAST BIT
OF OUR RESERVES ON THIS ITEM. I
DO STRONGLY BELIEVE, THOUGH,
THAT WE DO NEED TO HELP PEOPLE
WHO ARE AT RISK OF EVICTION ,
JUST FOR PEOPLE'S INFORMATION,
THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET
HAS -- HAD 4.8 MILLION IN HSD ,
AND 527,000 IN SDCI. I BELIEVE
THAT HSD 001 LETTER A , THAT
INCLUDED 1.9 MILLION. THIS
INCLUDES 3.3 -- THERE WAS
ANOTHER BUDGET ITEM THAT
CONTRIBUTED THAT BASICALLY
SWITCHED FUNDING, BUT SHOULD
ALL OF THESE PATHS -- WE WOULD
HAVE 10 MILLION IN THAT DOSE
THAT PROBABLY STILL IS NOT
ENOUGH, SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS
THAT THIS HAS BEEN A TOP BUDGET
CONVERSATION, AND THIS IS
SIGNALING THE NEED TO REFOCUS
ON THIS AS A BODY OF WORK GOING
FORWARD. I WILL NOT BE VOTING
FOR THIS BECAUSE OF THE
DIMINISHMENT OF OUR RESERVES. I
BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A
CUSHION THERE. BUT, JUST
THROWING MY THOUGHTS IN THE
RING. THIS IS AN ISSUE WE NEED
TO FOCUS ON MORE MOVING
FORWARD. [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU. LAST CALL. LAST
CALL ON COMMENTS. LAST CALL ON
COMMENTS. I WILL MAKE MY FINAL
COMMENT AND I WILL PASS IT OVER
TO COUNCILMEMBER MOORE AS A
SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT. THIS
IS THE RARE TIME THAT I WILL
CHANGE MY MIND ON THE DAIS
BASED ON THE ARGUMENTS MADE BY
COLLEAGUES. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA,
WELL SAID. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, WELL SAID. TO MY TEAM
WATCHING, SORRY THIS IS A
SURPRISE ON THE DAIS. I HAVE
CHANGED MY POSITION ON THIS
ITEM. IT IS A YEAR TO GO BIG.
IT IS HERE THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP
PEOPLE HOUSED. I HAVE A LOT OF
CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF
FUNDING IN THE RESERVE ACCOUNT,
ESPECIALLY NOW THAT IF THIS
PASSES, THERE WON'T BE ANY,
SO, THAT IS AN ORANGE TO RED
FLAG FOR OUR BUDGET ISSUES IF
THIS PASSES. BUT I WILL BE
VOTING YES. COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR CHANGING YOUR
MIND ON THE DAIS. AGAIN, SO
YES, 4.6 MILLION HAS BEEN
ANTICIPATED FOR THE TOTAL
RENTAL ASSISTANCE CONTRACT.
WITH THE ADDITION THAT WE
PROVIDED FOR THE INTEREST ON
THE LEVY. WE ARE LOOKING AT
PERHAPS 1.9 , SO, BUT TO GET US
TO ATTEND, WE NEED THIS
ADDITIONAL 3.3. IT IS A ONE
TIME HAD. I WOULD NOTE THAT I
TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT RESERVES
AND WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT
THAT GOING FORWARD. I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THAT GOING FORWARD.
BUT THIS IS THIS IS ULTIMATELY
GOING TO SAVE US MONEY, WHICH
-- AND DO GOOD WORK AT THE SAME
TIME. [ INAUDIBLE ] ONCE AGAIN,
I WOULD ASK FOR MY COLLEAGUES
SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
HSD-041-A-1.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. CHAIR
HOLLINGSWORTH --
>> AYE..
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> ABSTAIN.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> ABSTAIN.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> SIX IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED,
TWO ABSTENTIONS.
>> AS A MEMBER OF THE VOTING
MAJORITY, I'M GOING TO DOUBLE
CHECK. DO WE WANT TO RECALL
THAT VOTE? DOES ANYONE WANT TO
CHANGE THEIR VOTE? MOVING ONTO
THE NEXT ITEM. IT IS -- WE
ADOPT HSD-041-A-1. MOVING ONTO
THE NEXT ITEM, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE YOUR AMENDMENT. I WILL
HELP YOU OUT THERE.
>> SORRY. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I
AM ACTUALLY -- LET ME GET TO MY
NOTES. SO, THANK YOU. I
RECENTLY RECEIVED CONFIRMATION
FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT
THIS WILL BE FUNDED WITHIN
EXISTING FUNDING BALANCES, SO I
AM WITHDRAWING THIS AMENDMENT.
>> PLEASE NOTE THAT HSD-042-A-1
HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE
AGENDA. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE
ON. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
HSD-043-A-1 IS ALSO REMOVED. IS
THAT CORRECT?
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE ARE CHANGING DEPARTMENTS
HERE. HERE WE GO. WE HAVE 13
ITEMS LEFT IN D, I COULDN'T
ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN WALKED ON,
THAT WERE NOT DISTRIBUTED FOR
PUBLIC AWARENESS AHEAD OF
DEADLINES. SO WE WILL MOVE ON
TO OFFICE OF HOUSING 005S-A-1.
>> YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
OH-005S-A-1.
>> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN
MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO ADOPT SARA NELSON.
TRACY, HERE AT THE COMMITTEE
TABLE.
>> SPEC THIS WOULD PROVIDE
VACANCY REPORTS. THIS WOULD
BEGIN AS OF APRIL 1st, 2025. OH
COLLECTS INFORMATION FOR THE
RENTAL HOUSING BUILDINGS, WHICH
CONTAIN 18,000 UNITS. AS PART
OF THE REPORTING PERMIT FOR
SUCH BUILDINGS, THIS REVIEW IS
DONE AS PART OF THE MANAGEMENT
FUNCTIONS. THE VACANCY
INFORMATION IS COLLECTED FROM
PROVIDERS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS
FROM THE STATEWIDE ON THE
SYSTEM THAT IS OPERATED BY THE
WASHINGTON STATE HOUSING
FINANCE COMMISSION, ISSUED BY
ALL PUBLIC FUNDERS.
>> THANK YOU, TRACY.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE
THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANTED
TO SAY, I DO APPRECIATE THE
WORK THAT OH IS DOING, AND THAT
THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDING THIS
INFORMATION ON A YEARLY BASIS,
BUT I THINK THAT ALL OF US, WHO
SIT ON THE COMMITTEE OF HOUSING
[ INAUDIBLE ] HAVE BEEN
FRUSTRATED BY THE FACT THAT THE
DATA IS SQUISHY AND WE DON'T
REALLY KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT
VACANCY RATES ARE, AND, YEARLY
IS REALLY NOT -- WE NEED TO
HAVE SORT OF A REAL-TIME
SNAPSHOT OF VACANCIES, AND HOW
PROGRAMS ARE PERFORMING,
PARTICULARLY WHEN WE ARE
SEEKING TO EVALUATE THEM, MAKE
CHANGES TO THEM. AND WHEN WE
CONTINUE TO HAVE FUNDING
REQUESTS. SO I RECOGNIZED THAT
OH IS FEELING SOMEWHAT UNDER
THE GUN IN BEING ABLE TO MEET
THIS REQUIREMENT. I AM
CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL BE
ABLE TO, AND THAT THEY HAVE
ACTUALLY BEGUN WORKING ON
MAKING THE CHANGES THAT THEY
NEED, WITH SOME OF THE
DATABASES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
THIS INFORMATION GOING FORWARD
MORE REGULARLY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. BUDGET COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION. ONCE AGAIN,
THIS IS A GOVERNANCE SITE. I
WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA,
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, THEN
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK
YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD AS CHAIR.
THE HOUSING COMMITTEE -- I
DON'T SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE,
BUT I VERY MUCH CARE ABOUT
THESE ISSUES, SO I OFTEN DO
ATTEND THESE COMMITTEES,
DESPITE THE FACT THAT I DON'T
SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE. I WILL
SAY THIS IS A GOOD GOVERNANCE
PIECE, AND ALSO, [ INAUDIBLE ]
NOT ALSO -- AND, IT IS
IMPORTANT TO RECEIVE
INFORMATION MORE OFTEN THAN
YEARLY, AS WE ARE MAKING
DECISIONS, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE
THERE IS ALWAYS EIGHT MIDYEAR
SUPPLEMENTAL THAT WE NEED TO
CONSIDER, AND HAVING THE
INFORMATION QUARTERLY WILL BE
MORE HELPFUL THAN WAITING UNTIL
THE END OF THE YEAR, FOR
INSTANCE, TO SEE, BECAUSE THIS
IS A VERY -- IT MOVES. IT IS
NOT A STATIC NUMBER. IT WOULD
BE REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE, AS
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE SAID. WE
CAN'T SEE IT IN REAL TIME.
THAT WOULD BE DAILY, RIGHT? BUT
QUARTERLY WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL, AND I CONSIDER THAT,
AS COUNCILMEMBER MOORE SAID,
MORE IN REAL-TIME VENT ONCE A
YEAR. I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THIS, OBVIOUSLY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRESS.
THIS IS IN KEEPING WITH GOOD
GOVERNANCE ONE-ON-ONE. IT IS IN
KEEPING WITH THE SEATTLE
HOUSING INVESTMENT PLAN ,
KEEPING THINGS SHIPSHAPE AS IT
RELATES TO HOUSING. THIS IS
VERY MUCH NEEDED. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD,
IT REFLECTS THE HOUSING
IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. IT SPELLS
S.H.I.P.. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> I DON'T DISAGREE THAT MORE
REPORTING WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT
TRACY, THE CBA DESCRIBES A
LITTLE BIT THIS STATEWIDE
WEB-BASED ANNUAL REPORTING
SYSTEM. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, HOW
THAT WORKS? YOU SAID, THERE'S
18,000 UNITS IN THE CITY, AND
SO I'M JUST WONDERING A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT IF THERE IS CAPACITY
IN THE SYSTEM TO BE REPORTING
ON THAT MANY UNITS THAT
FREQUENTLY.
>> TRACY.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
SYSTEM COLLECTS INFORMATION ON
AN ANNUAL BASIS. THE PROVIDERS
PROVIDE IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS
AND IT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE
THE CAPABILITIES TO PROVIDE
INFORMATION ON A QUARTERLY
BASIS. WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR
WOULD BE IN FACT SOMETHING THAT
HAS OH HAVING TO WORK TO CREATE
A NEW SYSTEM BY WHICH THEY
WOULD COLLECT THIS INFORMATION
AND PROVIDERS WOULD THEN BE
REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT TO THEM.
>> OKAY. I DO RECOGNIZE THAT
OUR PROVIDERS ARE DEALING WITH
A LOT OF ISSUES RIGHT NOW. WE
KNOW THAT THERE ARE UNITS BEING
DAMAGED, AND THERE'S A LOT OF
COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH TRYING TO
DEAL WITH REPAIRS SO THAT THEY
CAN RELET THOSE UNITS. CAN YOU
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT
THE CITY IS DOING NOW, THE CBA
INDICATES THAT O.H. IS WORKING
TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE VACANCY
REPORTING, BUT WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN THIS SPACE?
>> SO AS THE MEMBERS OF THE
HOUSING COMMITTEE REMEMBER,
WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF
CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMMITTEE
ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS
ARE FACING RIGHT NOW. VACANCIES
ARE ONLY ONE OF THOSE
CHALLENGES. OPERATING COSTS
THAT ARE SKYROCKETING,
NONPAYMENT OF RENT, STAFFING
ISSUES, CONTINUING TO PLAGUE
THEM, AS WELL AS THE
INFLATIONARY COST OF INSURANCE
AND OTHER COSTS THAT THEY FACE,
JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES.
THAT MAYOR, AND WITH THE OFFICE
OF HOUSING, WORKING
COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEM, HAVE
BEGUN TO CONVENE BOTH OF THE
PROVIDERS, AS WELL AS THE
PUBLIC DEFENDERS, TO IN FACT
BEGIN TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT ALL OF THESE ISSUES THAT
ARE PRESENTING REALLY HISTORIC
CHALLENGES FOR OUR PROVIDERS.
THEY HAVE BEGUN THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. THEY ARE GOING
TO CONTINUE TO MEET AND ARE
ANTICIPATED TO PROVIDE A
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL,
I BELIEVE, IN EARLY 2025, TO
IDENTIFY, WHAT ARE THE KEY
ISSUES, AND WHAT ARE THE
REGULATIONS FOR HOW TO ADDRESS
THOSE ISSUES? NOT ONLY AT THE
CITY LEVEL, BUT ALL THE WAY
FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL ON DOWN
TO THE STATE, AND EVEN THE
COUNTY LEVEL, AS WELL.
>> ONE MORE, CHAIR.
>> PLEASE, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> OKAY. SO THE OTHER THING
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, THIS IS A
DUE DATE OF APRIL 1st. IF THERE
IS NOT YET A SYSTEM IN PLACE,
AND THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
DONE QUARTERLY, THAT MEANS THE
QUARTER ENDS MARCH 31st, AND
THE NEXT DAY, THIS IS DUE. IS
O.H. EQUIPPED TO SUBMIT A
REPORT LIKE THAT RIGHT TOM?
WHAT MIGHT IT TAKE TO GET THEM
THERE?
>> AS I INDICATED, THERE IS NOT
A SYSTEM , A REPORTING PROCESS
TO ESTABLISH THAT INFORMATION.
IT WOULD BE A QUESTION TO THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING ABOUT COULD
THEY STAND IT IN SUCH A WAY
THAT THEY CAN COLLECT THE
INFORMATION AND GET THE
PROVIDERS PROVIDED THROUGH THAT
SYSTEM?
>> I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT
YOU WILL IN FACT ADOPT THE [
INAUDIBLE ] I WOULD SUGGEST
THERE MIGHT BE TIME TO HAVE
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT MIGHT
BE POSSIBLE TO GET THE
INFORMATION ON WHAT KIND OF
BASIS THAT WOULD MEET
EVERYONE'S NEEDS AND
INTERESTS. I THINK THERE IS
INTEREST IN VACANCY INFORMATION
IN TRYING TO COLLECT IT MORE
FREQUENTLY , AND FRANKLY, MORE
ACCURATELY, AND MORE DETAILED,
TO GET SOME OF THESE ISSUES
ABOUT WHY DO VACANCIES HAPPEN,
AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT MAKING
SOME OF THOSE CHANGES, BUT THAT
IS A WORK IN PROGRESS BETWEEN
THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND THE
PEOPLE THAT ON THE SYSTEM, THE
DATA SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE
FINANCING COMMISSION, AND THE
OTHER DEFENDERS THAT ARE
ENGAGED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS
NOW. [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> OKAY. WELL, I KNOW O.H. IS
WORKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT
WORKING WITH THE MAYOR, WORKING
WITH THE [ INAUDIBLE ] I'M NOT
SURE THAT WORKING WITH ANOTHER
REPORTING SYSTEM OR SOMETHING
THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER
CAPACITY TO PROVIDE IS GOOD
GOVERNANCE RIGHT NOW, IT FEELS
LIKE WE ARE SETTING THEM UP TO
FAIL, TO REQUEST SOMETHING THAT
WE KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T
DELIVER, SO, WHILE I SUPPORT
THE NOTION, IT DOES SOUND TO ME
LIKE THAT WORK IS ALREADY IN
PLACE, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO
TROUBLESHOOT HOW THEY GET TO
THAT SPOT. I WON'T BE
SUPPORTING THIS, BUT I
APPRECIATE GETTING MORE
INFORMATION FROM YOU, TRACY.
THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, IS
THAT A NEW HAND?
>> I'M GOING TO CALL TO SEE IF
ANYONE WHO HAS NOT YET SPOKEN
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED, THEN WE WILL
CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE
INFORMATION I AND YOUR
COMMENTS. I KNOW IT IS A
REQUEST FOR INFORMATION. AND
SOLIDIFIES OUR INTENT TO GET TO
THIS INFORMATION MORE OFTEN. AS
WE ARE REHOUSING PEOPLE, IT IS
IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHERE THERE
ARE UNITS TO REHOUSE THEM TO
COME AND I HAVING THIS
INFORMATION JUST YEARLY IS VERY
DIFFICULT, AND I THINK IT IS
ALSO DIFFICULT FOR FOLKS, THE
PROVIDERS THAT ARE TRYING TO
REHOUSE FOLKS TO SERVICE
PROVIDERS, I THINK, SO I THINK
THIS IS THE INTENT BEHIND THIS.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
CONVERSATION SINCE WE GOT HERE
IN JANUARY, BUT GETTING THIS
INFORMATION, AND HOW TO BETTER
DO THIS. THIS IS NOT A GOTCHA
TO THE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS
MORE, THIS IS CRITICAL. WE ARE
ELEVATING HOW CRITICAL. WE ARE
WILLING TO WORK WITH THE
DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN
REQUIRE INFORMATION FROM
DEPARTMENTS. WE OFTEN HEAR THAT
THEY DON'T HAVE CAPACITY. IN
MY MIND, THIS IS PART OF THE
WORK THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING
ANYWAY, AT THIS LEVEL. SO IF
THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO DO IT, I
WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE IN
CONVERSATION AS TO WHY, AND HOW
WE HELP GET THEM THERE, BUT I
DO THINK IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE
FOR US NOT REQUESTING THE
INFORMATION. AND ELEVATING
THIS, AND, TO ME, IT IS PART OF
THEIR WORK, SO HOW DO WE FIGURE
OUT HOW TO HELP THEM GET THIS
WORK ACCOMPLISHED? BUT NOW,
MORE THAN EVER, IT IS REALLY
CRITICAL, BECAUSE THERE ARE
VACANCIES. WE DON'T KNOW HOW
MANY, EXACTLY, AT ANY GIVEN
POINT, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT
WE ARE TRYING TO REHOUSE, SO I
THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE. IT IS
NOT GOTCHA TO THE DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH
THEM, AND I KNOW FROM HAVING
WORKED AT A DEPARTMENT, THAT
THE SITE IS A REQUEST. IF WE
CAN'T MEET IT, WE WILL WORK
WITH THEM TO SEEK IF THEY CAN
MEET IT, OR IF IT NEEDS TO BE
TWEAKED, OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO
GET THERE? BUT IT DOES ELEVATE
THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, AND IT
DOES INDICATE THAT WE WANT TO
WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT
WE GET THIS INFORMATION. AND I
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE
DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, AS PART
OF THIS. SO, AGAIN, WE WANT TO
WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT. WE
WANT TO WORK WITH THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA. TRACY.
>> JUST TO REITERATE, O.H. HAS
SAID, AND THEY HAVE BEEN SEEING
THIS FOR SIX MONTHS NOW, WE
KNOW THE INTEREST IN VACANCY
INFORMATION AS WELL AS OTHER
DATA ABOUT PERFORMANCE, THEY
ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, I
JUST THINK THIS IS A QUESTION
ABOUT FREQUENCY IS THE QUESTION
HERE.
>> THANK YOU, TRACY. POINT WELL
TAKEN. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE
FAMOUS. HERE, IN CENTRAL STAFF.
WE CAN'T HAVE ONE MORE FAMOUS
THAN THE OTHER, BUT WE CAN SAY
THAT YOU ARE FAMOUS FOR THIS
REASON BRITT AND THE ANALYSIS
AND PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU'VE
BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE HERE,
DURING BUDGET, I HAVE IMMENSE
GRATITUDE. CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE
-- I WILL RETAIN MY SUPPORT FOR
THIS AND REQUEST THAT OVER THE
NEXT FEW MONTHS, BEFORE THE
FEBRUARY PRE-ADOPTION OF
STATEMENTS OF INTENT, WE WORK
OUT THE DETAILS THAT HAVE BEEN
ADDRESSED ON THE RECORD. WITH
THAT, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, YOU
HAVE THE FINAL WORD.
>> YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT TO
THAT. THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A
GOTCHA TO O.H.. AND ALSO,
CERTAINLY, IT IS NOT A PROVISO.
WE DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO
COOPERATE AND BE FLEXIBLE, AND
CHANGE DATES, AND WE REALLY
JUST WANT TO BE KEPT APPRISED
OF THE WORK BEING DONE, AND HOW
WE CAN BEST SUPPORT THAT, SO
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
005S-A-1?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
[ INAUDIBLE ]
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> EIGHT IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU. 005S-A-1 PASSES
AND IS ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL
120905. MOVING ONTO THE NEXT
ITEM, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES,
YOU ARE THE SPONSOR OF THIS
AMENDMENT, IF YOU CAN MOVE THE
AMENDMENT. IT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, OH-007-A-1
HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO
THE NEXT ITEM.
>> I MOVE OPCD-004-A-1 .
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED. WE HAVE [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> THIS IS OPCD-004-A-1 . IT
WOULD ENFORCE A PROVISO FOR THE
OFFICE OF [ INAUDIBLE ]
DEVELOPMENT FURTHER RANGE OF
$50,000 WHICH IS TO BE USED FOR
A SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT STATEMENT TO ANALYZE
ZONING CHANGES IN THE CITY'S
REGIONAL CENTERS AND URBAN
CENTERS, SO THOSE ARE PARTS OF
THE CITY. SPONSORS ARE
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES , MOORE,
AND HOLLINGSWORTH. IT WOULD
PROVIDE THAT ANY SUCH AND FOR
MENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT LOOK AT
A NUMBER OF ISSUES RELATED TO
HOUSING, INCLUDING A DEFINITION
OF LEGACY HOMEOWNERS, AND HOW
LEGACY HOMEOWNERS RELATE TO THE
AREAS THEY ARE BEING STUDIED
FOR RESOUNDS AND ALTERNATIVELY
INCLUDE STRATEGIES TO SUPPORT
LEGACY HOMEOWNERS AND TO
SUSTAIN THEIR HOMES. STRATEGIES
TO SUPPORT HOMEOWNERS IN
DEVELOPING THEIR PROPERTY, IF
THEY DESIRE, AND STRATEGIES TO
INCORPORATE TOOLS TO INCREASE
HOMEOWNERSHIP AND MULTIFAMILY
ZONES AND DEVELOPMENT.
>> THANK YOU, LISH.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, AS A
SPONSOR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> WELCOME I LISH RELATED OUT
PRETTY WELL. COLLEAGUES, AS YOU
WE HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT THIS
YEAR, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A
LOT OF INTEREST IN INCREASING
HOMEOWNERSHIP, AND
PARTICULARLY, IN FINDING WAYS
TO SUPPORT LEGACY HOMEOWNERS,
BLACK HOMEOWNERS IN THE CITY.
SO, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC REQUESTS
TO OPCD, TO IDENTIFY STRATEGIES
TO GET THERE, AND REALLY, THE
INTENT IS TO HAVE TOOLS
AVAILABLE TO US NEXT YEAR,
PARTICULARLY AS WE ARE LOOKING
AT THE COMP PLAN AND LOOKING AT
OTHER WAYS TO SUPPORT
NEIGHBORS. THIS IS A PROVISO.
WE ARE NOT ADDING ANYTHING, AND
TO CLARIFY, LISH, I WILL ASK
YOU TO CONFIRM THAT THIS
PROVISO WILL NOT CAUSE ANY
DELAY IN THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN FOR THE SCIS.
>> IT SHOULD NOT CAUSE ANY
DELAYS. THE PROPOSALS HAVE NOT
BEEN ISSUED FOR THIS WORK. THE
SCOPE FOR THE [ INAUDIBLE ] OR
THE SUPPLEMENTAL [ INAUDIBLE ]
HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED AND WILL
MOST LIKELY THOUGHT OF THE
DECISIONS YOU MAKE OVER THE
NEXT SIX MONTHS ON THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YEAH. SO I ASK FOR COLIC
SUPPORT SO WE CAN START TO
UNDERSTAND HOW TO BETTER
SUPPORT REDEVELOPMENT AND
LEGACY HOMEOWNERS. THANK YOU.
AND HOMEOWNERSHIP. THANK YOU,
CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. AS CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE, IF THIS WAS TO HAVE
INFLAMMATION IMPACT, THE
RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE KNOW.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT DOES NOT, SO
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.
COLLEAGUES, DISCUSSION.
DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION? LAST
CALL ON DISCUSSION.
COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. IN
TERMS OF TIMELINE, IF THIS WERE
TO PASS, HOW LONG WOULD THAT
TAKE, AND ITS RELATIONSHIP ON
THE TIMELINE OF THE CONFERENCE
OF PLAN THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING
UP FOR DISCUSSION ON THE
COUNCIL?
>> LISH.
>> VERY BRIEFLY, THERE ARE FOUR
-- THREE CHANGES IN ZONING THAT
OPD IS CONSIDERING. THE FIRST
WILL BE CONSIDERED ALONGSIDE
THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN,
IMPLEMENTING STATE LAWS THAT
NEED TO BE ADOPTED BY JUNE OF
2025. THE SECOND WILL COME
RIGHT ON THE TAIL OF THAT.
OTHER CHANGES THAT WERE STUDIED
IN THE EEIS THAT HAVE BEEN
PROPOSED. [ INAUDIBLE ] THIS
WOULD STUDY OTHER CHANGES THAT
WERE NOT IN THE EIS THAT OPCD
IS SET TO ISSUE IN THE NEXT
MONTH OR SO. AND, IT WOULD
BUILD ON THE DECISIONS MADE FOR
THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN BY THE
SUMMER.
>> HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE TO
GET ACCOMPLISHED?
>> WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIS,
IT WILL PROBABLY BE ONE OR TWO
YEARS, DEPENDING ON HOW
COMPLICATED THE ANALYSIS IS,
THE NUMBER OF COMMENTS THEY
RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC.
>> SO WITH THIS BENEFIT AT THIS
CURRENT CONFERENCE OF PLAN ON
THE TABLE CURRENTLY IF THIS
WERE TO TAKE ONE TO TWO YEARS?
>> IT IS INTENDED TO IMPLEMENT
THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN. IT IS A
FOLLOW-UP ACTION FOR THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
>> IS THERE A REASON WHY IT WAS
NOT INCLUDED ORIGINALLY?
>> THE HOMEOWNERSHIP QUESTION?
>> THEY HAVE NOT SET THE SCOPE
FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIS, SO
THEY HAVEN'T SAID WHAT WILL BE
STUDIED IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIS
IT, SO AS FAR AS GOOD
GOVERNANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY
MEASURES, THIS WOULD HAVE THE
COUNCIL SAY UP FRONT EXACTLY
WHAT COUNCIL'S INTENT IS FOR
THOSE FUNDS IN THAT ANALYSIS ,
AND THEN, THEY CAN BUILD THAT
INTO THEIR WORK AS THEY ARE
DEVELOPING SCOPE OF WORK FOR
THE EIS, AND FOR THE REQUEST
FOR PROPOSALS FOR ASSISTANCE. [
INAUDIBLE ] SPECS A POINT OF
CLARIFICATION, THIS IS APPROVED
FOR PROJECTS WHERE WE WILL SET
THE SCOPE OF THE EIS. THAT
WOULD START [ INAUDIBLE ] IN
JUNE.
>> CORRECT.
>> AND WHAT AREAS SPECIFICALLY
WOULD THIS EIS FOCUS ON?
>> SO THE EIS -- THE
SUPPLEMENTAL EIS IS INTENDED TO
FOCUS ON REGIONAL CENTERS,
URBAN CENTERS. THERE ARE 30
ACROSS THE CITY. THEY RANGE IN
SKILL FROM DOWNTOWN SEATTLE,
TWO MORE RESIDENTIAL AREAS LIKE
ROOSEVELT OR WALLINGFORD OR
ADMIRAL. SO IT IS A WIDE RANGE
OF SCALES OF COMMUNITIES, BUT
THERE AREAS -- THEY ARE FOCUSED
ON IN OUR CONFERENCE IS PLANNED
FOR MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, WE
HAVE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND
COMMERCIAL USE TO SUPPORT THAT
MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
>> AND WILL THAT INCLUDE AREAS
WHERE THERE ARE BLACK LEGACY
HOMEOWNERS?
>> YES. DEFINITELY.
>> WHAT AREAS WOULD THAT BE
SPECIFICALLY?
>> WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE
CENTRAL DISTRICT, AREAS AROUND
23rd AND JACKSON, 23rd AND
UNION, 23rd AND CHERRY, AND
THEN, DOWN THROUGH THE RAINIER
VALLEY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT AREAS THAT INCLUDE
BLACK LEGACY HOME FAMILIES.
>> AND THE RESULT WOULD BE A
REPORT THAT WOULD FOCUS ON
GENTRIFICATION DISPLACEMENT, AS
WELL AS HOW WE BUILD MORE
HOUSING?
>> THE RESULT WOULD BE THAT AS
OPCD IS ANALYZING THE IMPACTS
OF THEIR ZONING CHANGES ON
HOUSING, PART OF THEIR
CONSIDERATION WOULD BE THE
IMPACTS ON LEGACY HOMEOWNERS,
AND HOW TO BUILD IN TOOLS FOR
HOMEOWNERSHIP IN AREAS WHERE
MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS
PLANNED.
>> AND THIS WILL RESULT IN
POSSIBLE LEGISLATION WITHIN
THREE YEARS?
>> CORRECT.
>> WITH THAT LEGISLATION BE
SUPPLEMENT TO THE CONFERENCE OF
PLAN, -- COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ?
>> IT WOULD LOOK LIKE NEW
RESOUNDS OF THE AREAS ACROSS
THE CITIES AND NEW ZONING
REGULATIONS FOR MULTIFAMILY
COMMERCIAL ZONES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> SURE.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA.
>> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE
DEPARTMENT ON DOING THIS
ANYWAY. I'M NOT SURE WHITELEY
WOULD PROVISO MONEY TO REQUEST
THE DEPARTMENT TO DO WORK THAT
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS
CONTEMPLATING WITH THE
DEPARTMENT. I'M CONFUSED ABOUT
THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE
SCOPING -- THIS IS SCOPING THE
EIS ON THE COMP PLAN THAT HAS
NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET.
>> THANK YOU. LISH.
>> IT HAS NOT BEEN COMMUNICATED
TO ME THAT THIS WILL BE PART OF
THE SCOPE OF WORK. YOU KNOW, I
HAVE ASKED HOW THE COUNCIL
WOULD BE ENGAGED IN THAT
SCOPING. THERE WAS NO ANSWER TO
THAT QUESTION, AND, YOU KNOW,
NO ONE HAS TOLD ME PERSONALLY
AS THE STAFFER ON THIS, THAT
THEY WILL BE INCORPORATING THIS
-- THESE ISSUES IN THE SCOPE.
>> I'M NOT SURE. IF WE ARE
SCOPING SOMETHING THAT HASN'T
YET -- WE ARE STILL WORKING ON
THE COMP PLANS.
>> MAYBE IT HELPS TO TALK
THROUGH WHAT THE SCOPING
PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. OPCD, AS
THE LEAD AGENCY, HAS SOLE
AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHAT IS IN
THE SCOPE FOR THE EIS.
>> YOU MEAN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
DOESN'T GET TOO.SORRY, CHAIR
-- MIGHT --
>> LET LISH FINISH THE
STATEMENT.
>> I'M SURE THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE WILL HAVE INFLUENCE OVER
THAT DECISION, BUT IT IS THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF OPCD TO
DECIDE WHAT IS IN THE SCOPE,
UNDER STATE LAW, UNDER THE
STATE ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT.
THIS IS AN APPROACH THAT HAS
WORKED IN THE PAST FOR COUNCIL
TO SAY UP FRONT, THESE ARE
THINGS WE WANT YOU TO STUDY IN
THE EIS. THERE ARE NO
CONSTRAINTS ON THEM SPENDING
THIS MONEY. THEY DON'T EVEN
HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO
SAY, WE ARE INCLUDING THIS IN
THE EIS. IT JUST SAYS, IF, AS
YOU ARE SCOPING THIS EIS, YOU
NEED TO IMPLEMENT THESE ISSUES,
ALONGSIDE THE OTHER ISSUES YOU
DEEM ARE IMPORTANT.
>> [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> LISH, OPCD HAS COME HERE TO
TALK TO OUR COMMITTEE ABOUT THE
IMPOTENCE OF THESE ISSUES AND
WHY THEY SUPPORT THIS BUT WHY
WOULD WE THINK THEY'RE NOT
INCLUDING -- THEY TALK ABOUT
THIS A LOT. WHY WOULD WE THINK
THEY WOULD NOT INCLUDE THIS IN
A FUTURE SCOPING OF THE EIS?
WHY WOULD WE PROVISO THEIR
MONEY NOW?
>> AND SO, ALL COMMENTS ARE
DIRECTED THROUGH ME, AND I
FACILITATE THIS POSITION. I AM
ALSO GOING TO CALL ON
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES AT THIS
TIME TO ADD ADDITIONAL CONTEXT,
AS THE SPONSOR OF THE
AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU. YEAH. I DO THINK
IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND
THAT THIS IS A PROCESS, WHERE
THE LEGISLATIVE BODY IS ALLOWED
TO WAIT IN ON WHAT WE DEEM TO
BE PRIORITIES, THAT OPCD SHOULD
CONSIDER, AND THAT IS WHAT WE
ARE TRYING TO DO HERE. AS
COUNCIL, AS THE HOUSING
COMMITTEE HAS MET THIS YEAR, AS
THE LAND USE COMMITTEE HAS MET
THIS YEAR, WE HAVE HEARD A LOT
FROM , AND AS WE HAVE BEEN OUT
IN OUR COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE
HEARD A LOT FROM, PARTICULARLY
FROM BLACK HOMEOWNERS, THAT
THEY NEED HELP UNDERSTANDING
HOW TO BENEFIT FROM THE
INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE THAT
THEY HAVE, AND THEY DON'T KNOW
HOW TO ENGAGE IN THE
DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. WE AS WE
ALL KNOW, IT IS VERY COMP
LOCATED. IT IS LONG. IT IS
DRAWN OUT. YOU HAVE TO APPLY
FOR LOANS, ET CETERA. THE POINT
OF THIS PROVISO IS TO HELP
GUIDE THE DEPARTMENT IN SAYING
VERY SPECIFICALLY AND
DELIBERATELY, THIS IS WHAT WE
HAVE BEEN HEARING THIS YEAR. AS
YOU ARE DOING THIS WORK, PLEASE
ALSO MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE SOME
STRATEGIES SO THAT WE CAN TALK
TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND OFFER
THEM STRATEGIES ABOUT HOW TO GO
ABOUT PROVIDING TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE, THE SUPPORT YOU
NEED, AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT
THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS, YOU
KNOW, WE PASSED SOMETHING
EARLIER ALREADY THAT PROVIDES
FUNDING FOR TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE PROVIDERS TO LEGACY
HOMEOWNERS, SO THIS IS IN
KEEPING WITH THE WORK WE ARE
TRYING TO DO, AND AS LISH SAID,
IT IS NOT CONSTRAINING IN ANY
WAY. IT IS JUST ASKING TO
INCLUDE THESE ITEMS IN THE
BROADER STUDY THAT THEY ARE
DOING. AND IT IS REALLY A
RESPONSE TO THE THINGS WE HAVE
BEEN HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS
ALL YEAR.
>> AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO
CALL ON DIRECTOR NOBLE AND THEN
LISTEN AND BACK TO YOU, VICE
CHAIR. I WILL SAY IT HAS BEEN A
PRACTICE OF THE COMMITTEE THIS
YEAR TO SHOW DEFERENCE TO
COMMITTEE CHAIRS FOR THE AREAS
OF JURISDICTION WITHIN THEIR
COMMITTEES. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES IS THE CHAIR OF THE
LAND-USE COMMITTEE. DIRECTOR
NOBLE.
>> I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT
THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL APPROACH
FOR COUNCIL IN THE CONTEXT OF
THIS BODY OF WORK WITH THE
EXECUTIVES, COUNCIL DIRECTING
TRICK TO EFFECTIVELY DIRECTING
THE PROVISO. THIS ISSUE SHALL
BE INCLUDED -- IT IS AN
APPROACH THAT I HAVE ADVISED
INTRO FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS.
MORE GENERALLY, IN TERMS OF
TIMING -- YES, THE EXECUTIVE
HAS NOT SKIPPED THIS, BUT WE DO
KNOW THAT ONE OF THE OVERALL
FOCUSES FROM THE TIME OF THE
UPCOMING CONFERENCE OF PLAN IS
INCREASING DENSITY AND HOUSING.
THAT ALMOST INHERENTLY HAS
ISSUES OF DISPLACEMENT. IT IS
HARD TO ANTICIPATE THE BUSINESS
OF ISSUE -- [ INAUDIBLE ] WE
WANT TO STUDY AND YOU COULDN'T
DO -- [ INAUDIBLE ] THIS IS NOT
AN UNUSUAL THING TO DO. BOTTOM
LINE.
>> THANK YOU. LISH.
>> I DON'T THINK I HAVE
ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD.
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU , CHAIR. I THINK
WE HAVE HEARD THAT THE
DEPARTMENT IS INTERESTED IN
THIS. I TRUST THAT THEY ARE,
AND SO, I'M NOT SURE WHY WE
NEED TO PROVISO -- THIS
COULD'VE ALSO BEEN SLIGHT
FUNDS NOW FOR SOMETHING THAT IS
HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE WHEN
OUR COMP PLAN IS NOT YET
COMPLETED. IT IS NOT THAT I
DON'T UNDERSTAND SUPPORT THE
UNDERLYING -- IT IS THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN VERY, YOU
KNOW, A BIG ADVOCATE AND
PROPONENTS OF THIS. THAT IS
WHAT I AM -- THAT IS WHAT I AM
WORKING THROUGH IN MY HEAD
ABOUT THIS. SO THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, LISH, FOR ALL THAT
INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
WOO, IS THAT A NEW HAND?
>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE IT
CLEAR WHAT EIS DESPERATE THE
PROBLEM WE ARE TRYING TO SELF
IS NOT THROUGH AN EIS. WE ARE
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DO WE
HELP LEGACY HOMEOWNERS OBTAIN A
LOAN OR GET TECHNICAL HELP WITH
DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS NOT DONE
THROUGH AN EIS. IT IS
ENVIRONMENT IMPACT STUDY DOSE
THAT WILL HELP LOOK AT THE
ENVIRONMENT AS IT IS, AS WELL
AS, HOW DO WE LOOK AT ZONING?
SO, I THINK, IF THE PURPOSE IS
TO HELP BLACK LEGACY HOMEOWNERS
AND LOOK AT GENTRIFICATION
DISPLACEMENT, I DON'T THINK
EIS WILL HELP INFORM, BUT NOT
DO WHAT WE THINK IT IS GOING TO
DO BASED ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN
HEARING RECENTLY. I KNOW WHAT
EIS IS, BUT MAYBE, LISH, COULD
YOU TELL US WHAT EIS DOES AND
IS?
>> LISH.
>> THANK YOU. SO THE EIS DOES
TWO MAIN THINGS. IT IDENTIFIES
POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENT -- OR,
LIKELY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS
FROM THAT RANGE OF ALTERNATIVES
THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED. AND
THEN IT IDENTIFIES MITIGATION
MEASURES. TO REDUCE THOSE
IMPACTS. SO THINGS THAT CAN BE
ADDED TO THE PROPOSAL TO
MITIGATE THE IMPACTS THAT HAVE
BEEN IDENTIFIED. SO, THESE ARE
PROBABLY GOING TO FALL MORE
INTO THE MITIGATION MEASURES
SIDE OF THE THINGS AND THE
ENVIRONMENTAL [ INAUDIBLE ]
SIDE, BUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT
THE IMPACTS OF, FOR EXAMPLE, UP
ZONING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, EVEN
FURTHER THAN THEY CURRENTLY
HAVE, WILL HAVE ON THE SHARE OF
HOMEOWNERSHIP, VERSUS RENTAL
UNITS, WOULD BE PART OF THE
ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK
YOU. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS.
CLEARLY, AT THE END OF THIS
CBA, THE POINTS MADE HERE ARE
POINTS THAT I THINK ALL OF US
AGREE TO AND SUPPORT.
DISPLACEMENT POINTS. THE
QUESTION REALLY THEN BECOMES,
IS THIS THE VEHICLE IN WHICH TO
DO IT? WE HAVE ALL BEEN ENGAGED
WITH THEM ON THIS. I THINK
THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO ENGAGE
ON THIS, TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL.
THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, IS
THIS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY
NEEDED OR USEFUL IN THIS
PROCESS? THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE. COLLEAGUES COME ANY
FURTHER QUESTIONS? ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION? LAST CALL.
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE , IS THAT
YOUR HAND? NO? LAST CALL. LAST
CALL. LAST CALL. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, A SPONSOR OF THE AMEND
COMING UP THE LAST WORD.
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU
COMING OUT THE FACT THAT THE
LAST THREE DAYS, WE HAVE BEEN
DEFERRING TO THE CHEERS OF THE
COMMITTEES, SO I THINK THAT
BEARS REPEATING. THE OTHER
THING I WILL SAY IS THAT AN EIS
ALLOWS US TO PASS FURTHER
LEGISLATION AND IN THIS CASE,
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS SET
THE STAGE FOR BEING ABLE TO
PASS MITIGATING MEASURES, AS IT
RELATES TO THIS STUDY. IF WE
DON'T STUDY IT IN THE EIS, WE
CAN'T PASS LEGISLATION AROUND
IT. I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER
PART OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO
DO IS REALLY PREPARE US FOR THE
WORK THAT WE WANT TO DO LATER.
AND, AGAIN, THIS IS AN ATTEMPT
TO RESPOND TO THE REPEATED
REQUESTS WE HAVE HAD FROM
COMMUNITY, AND I AM URGING YOUR
SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. CLERK, WILL YOU
CALL THE ROLL ON OPCD-004-A-1 ?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR. FOUR A POST.
IT PASSES. OPCD-004-A-1 WILL BE
ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL
120905. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
YOU HAVE THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE
US. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR
ITEM?
>> YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR. I
WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AT THIS
TIME, OPCD-005S-A-.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE BOTH [ INAUDIBLE ]
AND LISH.
>> THANK YOU. THIS IS A
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT
THAT WOULD REQUEST THE OPCD
PLAN. THROUGH THE EQUITABLE
DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE
SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBERS
MOORE AND RIVERA. AS YOU ARE
AWARE, THE EQUITABLE
DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE PROVIDES
GRANTS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS
SPONSORED BY COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS. THERE ARE A
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GOALS FOR
THE PROGRAM, AND THIS SLIDE
ASKS FOR TWO THINGS. TO LOOK AT
WHETHER TO FUND SPECIFICALLY
PROJECTS FOCUSED ON SMALL
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT
AND OWNERSHIP, AND TO BETTER
SUPPORT THE CREATION OF SPACES
DESIGNED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
FUTURE SMALL-BUSINESS PROJECTS.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, AS SPONSOR OF THE
AMENDMENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. SO AS DESCRIBED,
THIS WOULD DEVELOP A REPORT TO
EXPAND THE ELIGIBILITY OF EDI
FUNDING FOR BIPOC REFUGEE AND
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. [
INAUDIBLE ] WE NOTE THAT THE
EDI PROGRAM HAS [ INAUDIBLE ] .
THIS IS A WAY TO KIND OF AND
THE SILOS THAT I HAVE
ACKNOWLEDGED TO EXIST BETWEEN
OED AND OPCD AND EDI, TO GET
THOSE GROUPS TALKING TO ONE
ANOTHER, AS A WAY TO -- WHAT'S
THE WORD? ACCELERATE, EXPAND
THAT USE OF EDI FOR ECONOMIC --
TO ACHIEVE THE ECONOMIC
MOBILITY AND OPPORTUNITY FOR
BIPOC, REFUGEE, AND IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITIES, AND ALSO, ONE OF
THE ISSUES THAT WAS IDENTIFIED
BY OPCD IS THAT OFTEN IN THE
CREATION OF THE SPACES THAT OED
DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK
PROACTIVELY WITH THEM TO
IDENTIFY SMALL BUSINESSES IN
THOSE POPULATIONS THAT COULD
FILL THAT SPACE AND BENEFIT
FROM THE USE OF THAT SPACE, AND
SO WE ARE WANTING TO MAKE SURE
THAT THERE'S DOSE THAT THAT IS
HAPPENING, AND THAT OPPORTUNITY
IS NOT GOING MISSED. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. AS THE BUDGET CHAIR
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION, I
PERSONALLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS
THAN I THINK CAN BE ANSWERED
TODAY, SO I WILL BE ABSTAINING
FROM THIS VOTE. COLLEAGUES,
THIS IS THE TIME FOR
DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION.
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, AND THEN
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES.
>> YES. THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. I WILL
UNDERSCORE, THIS IS A WAY TO
SUPPORT BIPOC IMMIGRANT AND
REFUGEE SMALL BUSINESSES AS
PART OF THIS WORK, WHICH IS IN
KEEPING WITH THE STATED GOALS
OF THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES.
>> OH, I JUST LOST MY PLACE.
I'M SORRY. WHAT ITEM ARE WE
ON?
>> WE ARE ON OPCD-005S-A, WHICH
IS THE 154th ITEM WITHIN --
>> GOT IT. SORRY. OH MY GOSH.
IT HAS BEEN A LONG WEEK. I
ORIGINALLY COSPONSORED THIS
AMENDMENT. I DECIDED NOT TO
BECAUSE OED ALREADY DOES A LOT
OF WORK SIMILAR TO THIS. WE
HAVE THE ONLY IN SEATTLE
PROGRAM. WE HAVE THE
GENERATIONAL WEALTH BUILDING
WORK THAT THEY TOOK OVER FROM
THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE THE
SMALL BUSINESS LEGAL
ASSISTANCE, THE TENANT
IMPROVEMENT FUND, THE GOOD
BUSINESS LEARNING LABS. THERE
ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT OED
DOES THAT ALSO TARGET SUPPORT
FOR BUSINESSES OWNED BY
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. I DON'T
THINK IT IS AN EFFICIENT USE OF
OUR SCARCE PUBLIC DOLLARS TO
DUPLICATE THESE EFFORTS,
ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS IS NOT THE
AREA OF EXPERTISE FOR OPCD, OR
FOR EDI, FOR THAT MATTER.
SMALL-BUSINESS TA IS NOT WHAT
THEY DO. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I
THINK IS IMPORTANT TO STATE IS
THAT THE EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT
INITIATIVE WAS SPECIFICALLY
DEVELOPED AS A PROGRAM TO
CENTER COMMUNITY DRIVEN
DEVELOPMENT. NOT TO IMPLEMENT
COUNCIL PRIORITIES. I
APPRECIATE AND I SHARE THE
COUNCILS INTEREST IN SUPPORTING
THE GROWTH OF BUSINESSES OWNED
BY BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORS,
THAT IS A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES
I HAVE IN MY DISTRICT, BUT EDI
IS AN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT TOOL
CENTERED ON DEVELOPMENT
PROJECTS, NOT SMALL-BUSINESS
GROWTH. THAT BEING SAID, I DO
WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE FOR INCLUDING MY LANGUAGE
AROUND SUPPORTING THE INCLUSION
OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF
PROJECTS OF SPACES DESIGNED TO
MEET THE NEEDS -- WITH THESE
COMMUNITY DRIVEN PRODUCTS, THEY
ARE REALLY NOT AT THE TABLE TO
HELP RECRUIT TENANTS FOR THE
COMMERCIAL SPACE. AND SO,
BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ACTIVE
RECRUITMENT HAPPENING, YOU
KNOW, THEY'RE JUST BUILDING
THE SORT OF LARGE BLANK SPACES,
AND THEN WHEN A SMALL BUSINESS
WANTS TO GO IN AFTER THE FACT,
IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE FOR THEM
TO DO IMPROVEMENTS TO CREATE A
SPACE THAT IS SMALL ENOUGH FOR
THEM, THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, OR
TO CREATE A SPACE THAT ALREADY
HAS A HOOD VENT, FOR EXAMPLE,
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO ADD
THAT IN. ANYWAY, THE POINT IS,
I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A
MORE APPROPRIATE NEXUS BETWEEN
THE WORK THAT OED DOES AND THE
WORK THAT OPCD DOES. THAT IS ON
THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT SIDE.
THAT IS NOT ON THE
SMALL-BUSINESS SUPPORT SITE,
SO, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING
THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I FULLY SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT
FROM COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. I
THINK ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO
HIGHLIGHT IS THAT COMMUNITIES
THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY
EXCLUDED ARE UNDER RESOURCED,
BUT THEY ARE OVER SERVICED,
MEANING, WE ARE CONTINUING TO
TAKE MONEY OUT OF THEIR
COMMUNITIES, AND THEN, HAVING
OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T
LOOK LIKE THEM SERVICE THEM.
AND SO, I THINK -- I HAVE
ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE
COUNCIL. ALL ABOUT ECONOMIC
MOBILITY. ONE OF THE PATHWAYS
IN WHICH WE ARE TRYING TO GET
BLACK -- BLACK COMMUNITY BACK
THROUGH THE CENTRAL DISTRICT --
BECAUSE IT IS SO EXPENSIVE FOR
PEOPLE TO BUY A HOME IN THE CD
DOSE THERE IS A MOVEMENT FOR
BLACK BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO
BE IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT, AND
BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS
ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE CREATED
WITHIN OUR CITY TO GET MONEY
INTO THEIR STORES, AND THEN TO
BE ABLE TO FUND THEIR
COMMUNITY. IS THIS CONSTANT
ECOSYSTEM THAT IS GOING TO BE
ABLE TO PROVIDE A TRANSITION
FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND
PARTICIPATE IN THIS ECONOMY. I
THINK THAT IT IS A GREAT WAY TO
START CHANGING THE CONVERSATION
ABOUT HOW WE ARE TRYING TO
CONTINUE TO PREVENT
ANTI-DISPLACEMENT IS NOT -- IS
ALSO THROUGH OUR SMALL
BUSINESSES THAT, YOU KNOW,
CREATE GENERATIONAL WEALTH FOR
PEOPLE. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
THAT. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS
AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
>> ONE OF MY TOP BUDGET
PRIORITIES WAS TO RESTORE THE
$2.3 MILLION THAT OED WAS
REDUCED BY AND THAT HIT THE
COMMERCIAL AFFORDABILITY AND
THE TENANT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS
OF OED THAT HELP BLACK AND
BROWN BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE
DIFFICULTY ACCESSING CAPITAL,
WHICH IS THE MOST COMMON
PROBLEM TO STARTING A BUSINESS
IN SEATTLE. THOSE PROGRAMS WERE
WELL UTILIZED AND IN HIGH
DEMAND. [ INAUDIBLE ] OED HAD A
REDUCTION IN BUDGET IN RESPONSE
TO THESE PROGRAMS THAT SOME OF
THEM WERE JUST BECOMING KNOWN
AND UTILIZED IN THE COMMUNITY.
[ INAUDIBLE ] SO I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT
I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT -- THE
WAY I SEE THIS CORONATION
BETWEEN OPCD AND OED IS NOT
THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THE EDI
PIE IS GETTING EATEN BY SMALL
BUSINESS INSTEAD OF NONPROFITS
-- I SEE THIS AS AN EFFORT TO
LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHEN
THERE IS REDEVELOPMENT ON, FOR
EXAMPLE, A BLOCK , LET'S SAY,
A HOUSING PROVIDER, YOU KNOW,
PURCHASES, OR ACQUIRES A BIG
PORTION, OR A WHOLE BLOCK. SOME
OF THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES WILL
BE DISPLACED, BUT THERE COULD
BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEM
BACK. WELL, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE
SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE
MEANTIME? AND SO, WE ARE NOT
TALKING ABOUT JUST GIVING FROM
NONPROFITS TO BUSINESS. WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT A WAY TO LOOK AT
HOW CHANGE IS HAPPENING IN
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A LOT
OF CHANGE, GENTRIFICATION,
DISPLACEMENT, ET CETERA. THAT
IS WHY I SUPPORT THE EFFORT TO
MAYBE SEE WHERE THERE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES TO ACHIEVE BOTH
POLICY GOALS, OR A NUMBER OF
POLICY GOALS AT THE SAME TIME.
>> OKAY. COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER
DISCUSSION ON THIS?
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, IS THAT A
NEW HAND? OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I DO SEE,
YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH'S
COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, BIPOC,
SMALL BUSINESSES, THAT IS A WAY
TO FOSTER, YOU KNOW,
GENERATIONAL WEALTH, AND IT IS
VERY MUCH PART OF THIS, YOU
KNOW, HOW DO WE HELP
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SUCCEED,
NOW, AND MOVING FORWARD, SO I
THINK ALL OF THIS IS IN
ALIGNMENT WITH THE INTENT, AND
THE STATED GOALS OF THIS
PROGRAM, SO I DON'T THINK
THERE IS MISALIGNMENT. I THINK
THAT WE NEED TO START SEEING
THAT BIPOC, SMALL BUSINESSES
ARE SO CRITICAL IN BIPOC
COMMUNITY, AS A WAY TO ADVANCE
COMMUNITY, SO WE SHOULDN'T BE
SEEING IT SEPARATE FROM ANY
OTHER EFIS VERY MUCH A
PART OF IT, AND I JUST DON'T
THINK THAT WE DO ENOUGH TO
SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES IN
GENERAL, BUT PARTICULARLY,
BIPOC SMALL BUSINESSES, SO,
THIS IS PART OF ALL OF THIS, AS
WELL. SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, IS THAT A NEW HAND?
>> OKAY. THEN, WE ARE GOING TO
MOVE ON BECAUSE BOTH OF YOU
HAVE SPOKEN TWICE. SOME PEOPLE
HAVEN'T SPOKEN AT ALL. WE HAVE
TO STAY ON TRACK. SO COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
>> THANKS. THIS RIGHT NOW IS MY
SECOND TIME, BUT I REMEMBERED
THAT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT
IT IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO
SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES, AND
IF THEY ARE IN DANGER OF
LEAVING, KEEP THEM IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND KEEP THOSE
DROPS.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE, AS SPONSOR OF THE
AMENDMENT, YOU HAVE THE LAST
WORD. SO NOBODY ELSE CAN TALK
AFTER COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> WHAT POWER. THANK YOU. I
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR -- TO COUNCILMEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH FOR YOUR
COMMENTS. THAT IS WHAT HAS
DRIVEN THIS SLY, AND I ALSO
WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL
PRESIDENT FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THAT IS ALSO THE THINKING I HAD
ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A WAY OF
BRINGING THE VARIOUS ENTITIES
TOGETHER TO EXPAND THE
OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS A GREAT
WAY TO BEGIN THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON OPCD-005S-A ?
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. TRICK
80
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> THANK YOU. OPCD-005S-A1
PASSES. WE ARE GOING TO LUNCH
RIGHT NOW FOR 30 MINUTES, AND
WE WILL COME BACK , AND WE WILL
BE HERE UNTIL WE ARE DONE, AND
IF THAT MEANS MIDNIGHT, IT WILL
BE MIDNIGHT. WHEN WE GET BACK,
I EXPECT NO ADDITIONAL WALK ON
AMENDMENTS. IT IS NOT OKAY. IT
IS NOT TRANSPARENT. IT IS
REALLY NOT COOL. IF THERE IS NO
OBJECTION, THE SELECT BUDGET
COMMITTEE WILL BE IN RECESS
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