>>> AWESOME, GOOD AFTERNOON
EVERYONE. IT IS APRIL 10th,
2024. THIS IS THE MEETING OF
THE PARKS, PUBLIC UTILITIES AND
TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE. THE TIME
IS 2:03. I'M JOY HOLLINGSWORTH,
YOUR FAVORITE COUNCIL MEMBER
AND CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. WE'LL GIVE THE CLERK ONE
SHERE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> PRESENT.
>> THREE COUNCILMEMBERS ARE
PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU. AND PLEASE NOTE
THAT WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS AND COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON WHO ARE EXCUSED TODAY.
BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM SO
HAPPY TO DO THAT. WE HAVE THREE
ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. FIRST
WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION BY OUR
PHENOMENAL SEATTLE PUBLIC
UTILITIES GIVING US AN UPDATE
ON THE SHIP CANAL WATER QUALITY
PROJECT. NEXT WE WILL DISCUSS
WITH CENTRAL STAFF ABOUT THE
SIRs THAT WERE INTRODUCED LAST
WEEK WE WILL VOTE ON AN
AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THE CTO.
THIS IS A STANDARD PART OF THE
SURVEILLANCE. BUT DIDN'T MAKE
IT INTO THE ORIGINAL PACKET.
SO, WE HAVE THOSE ON THE ITEM
AGENDA TODAY. WE WILL NOW
CONSIDER THE AGENDA. IF
THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS. THE
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. I'LL
PAUSE HERE. HEARING NO
OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS
ADOPTED. WITH THAT, WE WILL NOW
OPEN THE HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M HEARING YOUR QUESTION, BUT
IT IS NOT TIME FOR YOU TO ASK
THAT. THERE IS, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR FOLLOWING THE
GUIDELINES. I REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT. YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL. YOU CAN
SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN THE
HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD BE
RELATED TO TODAY'S ITEM
AGENDA. AND BE WITHIN THE PER
VIEW OF THE COMMITTEE. CLERK,
HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE
SIGNED UP?
>> WE HAVE FOUR IN PERSON
SPEAKERS AND NO REMOTE
SPEAKERS.
>> AWESOME. OKAY, SO EACH
SPEAKER TODAY WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES. AND CLERK, WILL YOU
PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS
FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD?
>> THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
WILL BE MODERATED IN THE
FOLLOWING MANNER. I WILL CALL
ON SPEAKERS BY NAME IN THE
ORDER IN WHICH THEY REGISTERED
BOTH ON THE COUNCIL'S WEBSITE
OR SIGNUP SHEET AVAILABLE IN
COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WE WILL START
WITH IN-PERSON SPEAKERS FIRST.
IF YOU HAVE NOT REGISTERED TO
SPEAK BUT WOULD LIKE TO, YOU
CAN SIGN UP BEFORE THE END OF
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. SIGN
UP ON THE WEBSITE OR AT THE
SIGNUP SHEET NEAR THE
MICROPHONES. THE LINK IS LISTED
ON THE AGENDA. WHEN SPEAKING
PLEASE BEGIN SPEAKING YOUR NAME
AND THE ITEM YOU ARE
ADDRESSING. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR
A CHIME WHEN TEN SECONDS ARE
LEFT. IF THEY DO NOT END AT THE
ALLOTTED TIME THE MICROPHONE
WILL BE MUTED. THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW OPEN AND
WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST
SPEAKER ON THE LIST. THE FIRST
SPEAKER IS EUGENE WATHERMAN.
>> HI MR. WASSERMAN. YOU'LL
GET TWO MINUTES. WE'LL THROW
THAT UP.
>> THANK YOU. I'M EUGENE
WASSERMAN. PRESIDENT OF THE
NORTH SEATTLE ASSOCIATION. HERE
TO COMMENT ON THE SHIP CANAL
PROJECT. IT IS BASICALLY IN OUR
INDUSTRIAL AREA. IT HAS BEEN
HERE FOR YEARS. THE MANAGER
TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS
FOR YEARS NOW. SEEMS LIKE PART
OF THE FAMILY. AND, DID AN
ABSOLUTE GREAT JOB AS PROJECT
MANAGER. THE UTILITY BACKED
THEM UP. I'M NOT SURE IF HE IS
IN CHARGE OF THE UTILITY
ANYMORE IN THAT ROLL. BUT
THINGS WENT REALLY WELCOME
PAIRED TO HOW BAD THEY COULD
BE. AND, THE PROJECT HOPEFULLY
WILL END SOON. BUT, VERY FEW
COMPLAINTS. NOBODY EVER CALLS
ME TO SAY THEY REALLY SCREWED
UP HERE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO
DO ABOUT IT. I HAVE A GROUP OF
BUSINESSES WHO LOVE TO
COMPLAIN. SO OVERALL, THEY DID
A FINE JOB. WHATEVER PROBLEMS
CAME UP, THEY SOLVED ON THEIR
OWN. WE HAD GOOD MEETINGS WITH
THEM AND A GOOD COMMUNICATION
STRATEGY. AND I HOPE THAT THE
MAYOR TAKES LESSONS FROM THIS
PROJECT AND USES IT TO WORK
WITH SDOT'S PROJECT MANAGERS
WHO GENERALLY DON'T GO THE
EXTRA MILE AS FAR AS KEITH DID
SO WE ARE VERY HAPPY WITH AS
MUCH AS YOU CAN BE WITH THEM
TEARING UP YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HOPE THE CITY LEARNED SOME
GOOD LESSONS FROM THIS. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ALEX
ZIMMERMAN.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT
POLICEMAN. BECAUSE I HAVE HUGE
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS FOR THE
LAST 30 PLUS YEARS YOU KNOW
WHAT THIS MEANS. SO, GUYS, I GO
TO POLICE COMMISSIONER MEETING
MANY TIME. MANY DOZEN AND DOZEN
TIME. PEOPLE IN THIS MEETING,
THEY VERY STUPID. THEY DON'T
KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. BUT
DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE LIKE A
CRIMINAL. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW
SYSTEM WORK. YOU UNDERSTAND?
SO, THIS EXACTLY, I TRY TO TALK
TO THEM ABOUT THIS. THEY DON'T
GIVE ME A CHANCE EVER TO SPEAK.
GUYS, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW?
IT IS VERY UNIQUE SITUATION.
CHIEF OF POLICEMAN FOR LAST
THREE CHIEF OF POLICEMEN, UNDER
THREE MENTALLY SICK MAYOR. THEY
ARE LOW CLASS PROFESSIONAL. YOU
UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING COME FROM
HEAD. NOTHING WILL BE CHANGED.
YOU MAKE THEM $100,000 SALARY.
MORE GARBAGE. CRIMINAL. YOU
KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? BECAUSE
WHEN YOU HAVE GOOD MONEY,
EVERYBODY WHO YOU LIKE, YOU
KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? FIRST,
WHAT YOU NEED IS A CHIEF OF
POLICE. WHAT IS NOT CONTROLLED
BY MAYOR. WHO BY DEFINITION ARE
CRIMINAL. SEVENTH FLOOR NEVER
OWN FOR TWO YEARS. YOU GUYS,
YOU UNDERSTAND WE NEED
SOMETHING DOING ABOUT THIS. MY
PROPOSITION AND I TALKING ABOUT
100 TIMES FOR THE LAST TEN
YEARS, FROM 9:00 TO 5:00 SO
PEOPLE CAN COME AND TALK. WE
NEED TO MAKE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN
THIS BUSINESS YOU KNOW WHAT
THIS MEANS. STAND UP AMERICA.
NEED SOMETHING DOING ABOUT
THIS. NOW.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU MR. TSIMERMAN.
YOU NEED TO SPEAK ABOUT
SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. AND
FOR THE RECORD, I THINK THE
NAZI SALUTE IS ABUSIVE
LANGUAGE. THAT IS NOTED ON THE
RECORD. FOR OUR COMMITTEE. NEXT
SPEAKER PLEASE. CLERK?
>> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DOUG
KISKER.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD
LIKE TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO
THE COUNCIL FOR HAVING THESE
MEETINGS OPEN. I'M HERE WITH
MY TWO SONS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT
HOW OUR COUNCIL WORKS. MY TWO
KIDS ARE WORKING ON THEIR
CITIZENSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY
MERIT BADGE FOR SCOUTING.
TODAY'S AGENDA LOOKED
ESPECIALLY INTERESTING. BECAUSE
WE DO LIVE IN THE BALLARD
NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS HAS BEEN
SOMETHING WE HAVE SEEN QUITE
SOME TIME. THE SURVEILLANCE
COMPONENTS LOOK VERY
INTERESTING AND WE APPRECIATE
YOUR TIME. FOR HAVING THESE
SESSIONS OPEN.
>> THANK YOU. AND, WELCOME TO
YOUR TWO YOUNG SONS. I
APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING
CIVICALLY ENGAGED AND INVOLVED.
HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE
ENTERTAINING FOR YOU. SO THANK
YOU.
>> LAST SPEAKER IS LINDA
ROSELLE.
>> A HOSTAGE SITUATION. WHY ARE
YOU SMILING?
>> YOUR TIME IS TWO MINUTES
MA'AM.
>> I KNOW HOW LONG IT IS.
DON'T TREAT ME AS A LESSER
BEING. IS KSHAMA SAWANT
SUPPOSED TO HELP THE HOMELESS.
YOU KNOW WHAT SHE DID? SHE PUT
ALL THAT MONEY TOWARD
UNIONIZING STARBUCKS. THEN THEY
VOTED TO MAKE DRUGS ON THE
STREET LEGALIZED. UNLESS THEY
COMMIT A CRIME. IT IS A CRIME
TO DO DRUGS ON THE STREET. I
DON'T LIKE HER. I DON'T LIKE
JAY INSLEE OR ANY OF YOU, OR
THIS WORKING FROM HOME. I'M A
VERY POWERFUL PERSON. I GOT
ASSAULTED AT ANGELINES ALMOST
THREE YEARS AGO. WOMEN ARE
GETTING ASSAULTED ALL THE TIME
AND COPS SAY IT IS NOT THEIR
PROBLEM. I CALLED LISA HERBOLD
ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO SAYING
PEOPLE ARE DYING IN THESE
SHELTERS. I DON'T LIKE ANY OF
THIS. THESE CHILDREN NEED TO
TAKE OVER. THEY WOULD DO A
BETTER JOB THAN ANY OF YOU
PEOPLE. HOW IS IT OKAY FOR A
PERSON ON THE STREET TO BE PUT
OUT THERE, THEIR IDENTITY IS
STOLEN. THEY ARE NOT COUNTED.
WHEN THEY DIE ON THE STREET
FROM HYPOTHERMIA, THEY ARE SO
SEVERELY TRAUMATIZED. THEY GET
KICKED OUT. HOW IS IT OKAY FOR
DESC TO NEVER REPORT THEIR
DEATH AND COLLECT THEIR MONEY,
GET BONUSES IN THAT SITUATION?
I'M NOT DONE HERE, BUT I AM
DONE HERE. KSHAMA SAWANT AND
ALL OF YOU CAN GO TO HELL. TO
WALK IN HERE AND HEAR ABOUT
HOSTAGES WHEN THERE ARE
CHILDREN HERE. THEY NEED TO
HEAR IT. AND YOU SMILE. AND
THAT IS MY PROBLEM. I AM NOT
DONE.
>> ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS?
>> THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL
SPEAKERS.
>> AWESOME, SO, THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
COMING TODAY. REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT. AND, IF THERE ARE NO
ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP
FOR ONLINE, WE WILL NOW PROCEED
TO OUR ITEMS OF BUSINESS. WILL
THE CLERK READ AGENDA ITEM #
INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. THE
SHIP CANAL WATER QUALITY
PROJECT UPDATE PRESENTATION.
THE PRESENTERS ARE KERI
BURCHARD-JUAREZ, BEN MARRE, AND
KEITH WARD.
>> AND TO OUR YOUNG KIDS HERE,
THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF YOUR
FIRST TIMES INTERACTING WITH
GOVERNMENT. USUALLY WHEN THIS
HAPPENS, YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE
ON WITH LEGISLATIVE STUFF AND
CONTINUE TO BE PROFESSIONAL.
HOPEFULLY YOU ALL WILL LEARN
SOME GREAT STUFF. THIS IS WHAT
HAPPENS IN GOVERNMENT.
ESPECIALLY IN SEATTLE. SO,
LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR SEATTLE
PUBLIC UTILITIES TO TALK ABOUT
THE SHIP CANAL WATER QUALITY
PROJECT. I HAD JUST FOR THE
PUBLIC, I WENT ON A REALLY,
REALLY FUN TOUR OF THE PROJECT
WITH COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS,
FEELS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO, BUT
IT WASN'T. FOUR WEEKS AGO. AND
HAD A GREAT TIME WITH YOU ALL
SEEING ABOUT THE PROJECT AND
ALL THE HARD WORK GOING IN. SO
I GOT TO GEEK OUT WITH YOU ALL.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING
THE UPDATES. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR JOY
HOLLINGSWORTH AND
COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M KERI
BURCHARD-JUAREZ. I'M JOINED BY
BEN MARRE. AND KEITH WARD. WHO
IS THE PROJECT EXECUTIVE FOR
THIS PROJECT. SO, WE ARE HERE
TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THAT WE
HAVE UNDERWAY FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE WILL INCREASE THE BUDGET AND
EXTEND THE SCHEDULE. I WANT TO
BE CLEAR FUNDING FROM THIS
COMES FROM SPU'S WASTE WATER
FUND AND NOT THE GENERAL FUND
AND THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO
MANAGING THE PROJECT COST
WITHIN OUR PLANNED RATE PATH.
PROVIDING A PREDICTABLE RATE IS
A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR
COMMITMENT TO OUR CUSTOMERS.
SO, WE MAY ADJUST THIS
PROJECT'S COST. BUT WE WILL
MANAGE IT WITHIN OUR DRAINAGE
AND WASTE WATER FUND RATE PATH.
SO BEN WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW
OF THE COMBINED SEWAGE OVERFLOW
PROGRAM AND THEN KEITH WILL
PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE
PROJECT. HE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW
WE DEVELOP OUR COST ESTIMATES.
CHALLENGES WE HAVE HAD ON THIS
PARTICULAR PROJECT. OVER THE
LAST FEW YEARS. AND THE COST
AND SCHEDULE UPDATE THAT HE IS
LEADING RIGHT NOW. THEN IT WILL
COME BACK TO ME.
>> ALL RIGHT. I ALWAYS LIKE TO
START WITH THE PROBLEM WE ARE
ADDRESSING WITH THIS PROJECT
WHICH IS COMBINED SEWER
OVERFLOWS. IN SOME PARTS OF THE
CITY, STORM WATER COMBINES WITH
SEWAGE AND PIPES. WHEN IT IS
NOT RAINING OR THERE IS LIGHT
RAIN, THE PIPES CONVEY SEWAGE
AND STORM WATER TO THE
TREATMENT PLANT. AS YOU CAN SEE
IN THE FIGURE ON THE LEFT.
DURING HEAVY RAIN, THE SYSTEM
OVERFLOWS INTO LOCAL WATER
BODIES AND THIS IS SHOWN ON THE
RIGHT. THIS IS A COMBINED SEWER
OVERFLOW AND IT PREVENTS SEWER
WATER FROM BACKING UP INTO
BASEMENTS OR ONTO STREETS. THEY
ARE REGULATED BY THE CLEAN
WATER ACT. AN OVER TIME, WE ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR REDUCING THEM
TO PROTECT HUMAN HEALTH. ONE OF
THE WAYS TO REDUCE COMBINED
SEWER OVERFLOWS IS TO PROVIDE
LARGE TANKS OR TUNNELS TO HOLD
FLOW TEMPORARILY UNTIL THE
STORM PASSES. AFTER THE STORM
PASSES, THE STORED FLOW IS
PUMPED BACK TO THE TREATMENT
PLANT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AS
A REGION TO REDUCE COMBINED
SEWER OVERFLOWS FOR MANY YEARS
AND THIS FIGURE SHOWS OUR
PROGRESS. THE X AXIS SHOWS TIME
STARTING IN THE 60s AND
EXTENDING BEYOND 2030. THE Y
AXIS SHOWS THE COMBINED
OVERFLOW VOLUME. BIG STRIDES
WERE MADE TO REDUCE COMBINED
SEWER OVERFLOWS. THIS WAS AN
ERA WHEN IT WAS EASY TO FIX THE
PROBLEM AND IMPROVEMENTS
YIELDED BIG RESULTS. TODAY WE
ARE CHASING THE HARDEST THAT
REMAIN. IN 2013, THE CITY
SIGNED A CONSENT DECREE WITH
THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
THE U.S. EPA AND THE WASHINGTON
DEPARTMENT OF ECOLOGY ABOUT
COMBINED SEWER OVERFLOWS. IT
REENFORCED THE CITY'S
COMMITMENT TO REDUCE OVERFLOW
TO LESS THAN ONE OVERFLOW PER
OUT FALL PER YEAR. SINCE 2013
WHEN THE CONSENT DECREE WAS
SIGNED, WE HAVE MADE
SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS BY
COMPLETING MORE THAN 50 SEWER
SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS. THAT
INCREASE SYSTEM EFFICIENCY
INCLUDING PROJECTS LIKE
INCREASING WASTE WATER PUMP
STATION CAPACITY. REDUCING
OUTDATED PASSIVE SYSTEM
CONTROLS WITH MODERN SMART
VALVES. WE HAVE COMPLETED GREEN
STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS MANAGING NEARLY 13
ACRES OF IMPERVIOUS AREA. THESE
PROJECTS KEEP STORM WATER OUT
OF THE SYSTEM IN THE FIRST
PLACE. WORK WITH CUSTOMERS TO
INSTALL MORE THAN 1,000 RAIN
GARDENS OR CISTERNS TO MANAGE
STORM WATER RUNOFF THROUGH OUR
RAIN WISE PROGRAM AND WE HAVE
BUILT FOUR STORAGE FACILITIES
PROVIDING A TOTAL OF 5.4
MILLION GALLONS OF STORAGE
THROUGHOUT THE COMBINED SEWER
SYSTEM. AND IN 2027, WE WILL
COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR
LARGEST EVER CAPITAL PROJECT,
THE SHIP CANAL WATER QUALITY
PROJECT. WHICH WILL PROVIDE 29
MILLION GALLONS OF ADDITIONAL
CSU STORAGE AND REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF COMBINED SEWER
OVERFLOWS IN SEATTLE BY NEARLY
HALF. THE SHIP CANAL WATER
QUALITY PROJECT IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS
THE NUMBER OF CSOs THAT IT
WILL ADDRESS. WE HAVE 82
OUT-FALLS IN THE CITY. BUT THEY
CONTRIBUTE NEARLY HALF. 43% OF
THE OVERFLOW VOLUME IN THE
CITY. THE BLUE WEDGES IN THIS
FIGURE SHOW THOSE FOUR CITY OUT
FALLS THAT ARE PART OF THE SHIP
CANAL WATER QUALITY PROJECT.
THE GRAY WEDGES ARE THE OTHER
78. THIS PROJECT IS AN
IMPORTANT PART OF PROTECTING
OUR REGION'S WATER QUALITY AND
HUMAN HEALTH. THE PROJECT WHEN
COMPLETED WILL KEEP AN AVERAGE
OF 75 MILLION GALLONS OF
POLLUTED STORM WATER AND SEWAGE
OUT OF OUR WATERWAYS EACH YEAR.
>> THANK YOU BEN. IT IS A 13
YEARLONG PROJECT TO REDUCE
COMBINED SEWAGE OVERFLOWS AND
IMPROVE THE REGION'S WATER
QUALITY. IT ADDRESSES OVERFLOWS
AT SIX OUT-FALLS. CURRENTLY,
THESE SIX OUT-FALLS OVERFLOW
100 TIME AS YEAR PER AVERAGE.
AND WE WILL REDUCE THIS TO LESS
THAN SIX. THIS IS A SHARED
PROJECT WITH KING COUNTY THAT
WILL ADDRESS FOUR OF SEATTLE'S
OUT FALLS AND TWO OF KING
COUNTY'S OUT FALLS. AS BEN
SAID, THE FOUR OUT-FALLS HAVE A
DISPROPORTIONATELY LARGER FLOW
THAN ALL OF THE OTHER
LOCATIONS. THESE FLOW TO THE
SIX OUT-FALLS. THE CAUSE FOR
THE PROJECT IS SHARED. OUR
SHARED. OUR JOINT PROJECT
AGREEMENT WITH KING COUNTY
INCLUDES A COST SPLIT OF ABOUT
65% FROM SPU OR THE CITY AND
35% FOR KING COUNTY. THERE ARE
SOME COSTS THAT ARE NOT SHARED.
BEN DISCUSSED THE CSO PROBLEM.
IN THE CASE OF THE SHIP CANAL
WATER QUALITY PROJECT, WE ARE
BUILDING A STORAGE TUNNEL.
ESSENTIALLY AN UNDERGROUND TANK
TO REDUCE COMBINED SEWAGE
OVERFLOWS INTO WATERWAYS. AFTER
STORMS PASS, THE FLOW WILL BE
SENT FROM THE STORAGE TUNNEL TO
THE WEST POINT TREATMENT PLANT
IN MAGNOLIA FOR TREATMENT. NOW,
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT
PROJECT DESIGN AND THEN
CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS A PLANNED
VIEW OF THE PROJECT. OUR WORK
INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION IN FIVE
NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG THE SHIP
CANAL. THE BACKBONE OF THE
PROJECT IS THE 2.7-MILE-LONG
18-FOOT TEN-INCH DIAMETER
STORAGE TUNNEL FROM BALLARD TO
WALLINGFORD. THE SAME SIZE
TUNNEL AS YOUR STANDARD TRANSIT
TUNNEL. WE HAVE TWO OTHER
SMALLER TUNNELS, SEE NUMBERS
TWO AND THREE. ONE UNDER THE
SHIP CANAL FROM FREMONT TO
QUEEN ANNE AND ONE IN BALLARD.
THIS IS A SIMPLIFIED SECTION OF
THE PROJECT. EACH OF THE FIVE
NEIGHBORHOODS WE ARE WORKING
WITH ARE SHOWN AT THE TOP AND
THREE COLORS DENOTE HOW WE HAVE
PACKAGED THE WORK BETWEEN THREE
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS OR
PACKAGES. SHOWN AT THE TOP,
CONVEYANCE PIPES GRABBED FLOWS
FROM THE EXISTING SYSTEM AND
THIS IS SHOWN BY THE ARROWS.
THESE CONVEYANCE PIPES CONNECT
TO THE DROP SHAFTS, THEY TAKE
FLOWS FROM THE SURFACE DOWN
INTO THE STORAGE TUNNEL AND THE
TUNNEL IS SHOWN IN DARK BLUE.
IT IS BETWEEN 57 TO 105 FEET
DEEP. AND THERE ARE ONLY TWO
ABOVEGROUND STRUCTURES. A SMALL
ELECTRICAL BUILDING IN
WALLINGFORD AND A PUMP STATION
IN BALLARD WHICH I WILL TALK
MORE ABOUT. WE SELECTED OUR
STORAGE TUNNEL CONTRACTOR IN
2019 AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING
THROUGH THE LAST FOUR YEARS
THROUGH THE PANDEMIC AT EACH OF
OUR SITES. THEY COMPLETED THE
STORAGE TUNNEL AFTER 22 MONTHS
OF TUNNELING IN JUNE OF 2023.
AND THEY ARE NEARLY COMPLETE
WITH HEAVY CONSTRUCTION WORK IN
THE FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WILL
FINISH THIS YEAR. THIS IS AN
OVERVIEW OF OUR WALLINGFORD
CONVEYANCE PROJECT CURRENTLY IN
CONSTRUCTION. IT IS BUILDING A
DEEP PIPELINE TO SEND CSO FLOWS
TO THE STORAGE TUNNEL INSTEAD
OF OVERFLOWING TO LAKE UNION.
FOR THIS IMPORTANT WORK, WE
HAVE TEMPORARILY HAD TO CLOSE
STONEWAY NORTH AND NORTH 35th
STREET. WE HAVE FOCUSED ON
COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND
COORDINATION WITH ADJACENT
BUSINESSES DUE TO THE LOCATION
OF THE PROJECT. CONSTRUCTION OF
THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO BE
COMPLETED LATER THIS YEAR. WE
HAVE MADE CONSIDERABLE PROGRESS
ON THE PROJECT THE LAST NINE
YEARS WHICH IS SHOWN IN THIS
TIME LINE. WE HAVE COMPLETED
THE DESIGNS FOR ALL OF OUR
PROJECTS AND THIS PHASE IS
SHOWN IN THE LIGHT BLUE BARS.
WE HAVE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION
ON ONE PROJECT AND ARE NEARLY
COMPLETE WITH THE TWO PROJECTS
I JUST MENTIONED. THESE ARE
DENOTED BY THE DARKER BLUE BARS
FOR CONSTRUCTION. BECAUSE WE
HAVE BIDS FOR THIS WORK, WE
HAVE MORE COST CERTAINTY ON
OVER $270 MILLION OF
CONSTRUCTION WORK. OUR LAST
REMAINING PROJECT, THE BALLARD
PUMP STATION AND CONVEYANCE
PROJECT WILL START CONSTRUCTION
LATER THIS YEAR AND IS SHOWN AS
A LIGHTER SHADE OF DARK BLUE.
WE JUST RECEIVED BIDS FOR THIS
PROJECT WHICH I WILL TALK MORE
ABOUT LATER. WE EXPECT TO HAVE
THE ENTIRE FACILITY COMPLETE
AND OPERATIONAL IN 2027 WHICH
IS SHOWN BY THE YELLOW STAR.
THUS FAR, WE HAVE EXTENDED OVER
$400 MILLION ON THIS PROJECT.
THE FINAL SHIP CANAL WATER
QUALITY PROJECT IS THE BALLARD
PUMP STATION AND CONVEYANCE
PROJECT WHICH WILL CONSTRUCT A
NEW 12 MILLION-GALLON PER DAY
PUMP STATION TO DRAIN THE
STORAGE TUNNEL AND BUILD A NEW
EIGHT-FOOT DIAMETER TUNNEL TO
BRING PEAK FLOWS TO THE STORAGE
TUNNEL INSTEAD OF OVERFLOWING
INTO SALMON BAY NEAR THE
BALLARD LOCKS. IN THIS SLIDE,
YOU CAN SEE THE ALIGNMENT OF
THE NEW CONVEYANCE TUNNEL AS
WELL AS A RENDERING OF THE
COMPLETED PUMP STATION FROM A
PUBLIC PIER WE REBUILT AT THE
END OF 24th AVENUE NORTHWEST.
THIS PROJECT WILL START
CONSTRUCTION IN THE FALL OF
THIS YEAR AND WILL BE COMPLETE
IN 2027. THE PROJECT WILL BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR START-UP,
TESTING, AND INTEGRATING ALL
THE COMPONENTS THAT WERE
PREVIOUSLY COMPLETED BY OTHER
PROJECTS IN THE PROGRAM. OUR
CURRENT BUDGET WAS ESTABLISHED
IN 2018. IT WAS $570 MILLION AT
A 65% CONFIDENCE. I'M GOING TO
PROVIDE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.
THIS COST ESTIMATE, SOFT COST,
LABOR COST. PROPERTY COST, AND
ESCALATION WHICH IS AN INFORMED
PREDICTION OF HOW MUCH COST
WILL INCREASE IN THE FUTURE.
THESE ITEMS ARE INCLUDED AS
SINGLE VALUES. WE USE
HISTORICAL AVERAGES AND CURRENT
TRENDS TO ESTIMATE THESE. THE
COST ESTIMATE ALSO INCLUDED OUR
UNCERTAINTIES AND RISKS.
UNCERTAINTIES AND RISKS ARE
UNKNOWNS THAT WE CAN'T KNOW
UNTIL A LATER DATE OR EVENTS
THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN. FOR
BOTH THESE, WE SET ASIDE
RESERVES OR CONTINGENCIES TO
COVER IMPACTS BASED ON THEIR
PROBABILITY. IF A RISK HOLDS A
40% PROBABILITY, WE'LL SET
ASIDE 40% OF THE COST TO COVER
THEM. OUR COST EVIDENCE
INCLUDED A CONFIDENCE.
PRACTICES LIKE THE SHIP CANAL
WATER QUALITY PROJECT. AND
CONFIDENCES REFLECT THE
VARYABILITY AND UNCERTAINTY OF
A PROJECT. THEY CAN'T ABSORB
ALL UNCERTAINTIES AND RISKS
UNLESS SET WITH A VERY HIGH
CONFIDENCE AND A VERY HIGH
BUDGET. THIS MEANS IN 2018
GIVEN OUR ESTIMATES OF COST,
ESCALATION, AND UNCERTAINTIES
AND RISKS, THERE WAS A 65%
CHANCE THAT COSTS WOULD BE AT
OR BELOW 75 MILLION. MOST
AGENCIES AGENCIES BUDGET
BETWEEN 50 AND 85%. IN MY 2018
PRESENTATION TO THIS COMMITTEE,
I NOTE HAD OUR BUDGET DIDN'T
COVER SIGNIFICANT COSTS IMPACTS
OR DELAYS. MAJOR RISK EVENTS.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE
EXPERIENCED. WE ANTICIPATE.
BEFORE WE DESCRIBE THE
CHALLENGES OF THE PAST FEW
YEARS I WANT TO REITERATE THAT
KERI SAID, THAT WE ARE
COMMITTED TO MANAGING BUDGET
COSTS WITHIN OUR PLAN RATE
PATH. THE BUDGET IN THE
SCHEDULE, OVER THE PAST SIX
YEARS, THE PROJECT HAS
EXPERIENCED, PANDEMIC RELATED
IMPACTS AND RISK EVENTS. WE ARE
NOW DOING A COMPREHENSIVE
PROJECT OVERVIEW. AND UPDATES
SO THE EVENTS CAN BE REFLECTED
IN OUR BUDGET AND SCHEDULE. I
WILL NOW TALK ABOUT FACTORS
THAT HAVE IMPACTED THE BUDGET.
A MAJOR CHALLENGE FOR US IS
RECORD HIGH ESCALATION. THESE
CONSTRUCTION RELATED INDEXES
SHOWN HERE SHOW THE ANNUAL
CHANGE IN CONSTRUCTION COST
FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR FROM
2009 TO 2024 FOR ITEMS LIKE
CONSTRUCTION LABOR, MATERIALS
AND EQUIPMENT. ANNUAL CHANGES
ARE CUMULATIVE. SO WHEN THE
RATE IS DECREASING IT IS STILL
ADDING ESCALATION OVER THE LIFE
OF THE PROJECT. LEFT OF THE
BLUE LINE, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN
GENERAL, BETWEEN 2009 AND MID
2018, THE ANNUAL CHANGE STAYED
UNDER 5%. OUR 2018 COST
ESTIMATE WAS COMPLETED DURING
WHAT WAS CONSIDERED A PERIOD OF
HIGH ESCALATION AND WE ASSUMED
SEATTLE WOULD RETURN TO THE
HISTORICAL AVERAGE WITHIN FIVE
YEARS. MORE RECENTLY, THESE
INDEXES SHOW INCREASE 11 TO 24%
ANNUALLY WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE
RIGHT. THIS IS RECORD SETTING
AND IMPACTS THE BIDS
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS RECEIVE.
AS YOU ARE LIKELY AWARE, THIS
RECORD SETTING ESCALATION HAS
IMPACTED BUDGETS FOR MANY OTHER
REGIONAL AND NATIONAL
MEGAPROJECTS. WE ALSO HAVE
ENCOUNTERED UNDERGROUND RISK
EVENTS. I WANT TO ASSURE YOU
THE STORAGE PROJECT PREPARED
FOR THE VARIABLE OF UNDERGROUND
WORK. WE PERFORMED 73 BORINGS
AND WE INTEGRATED THESE GROUND
CONDITIONS INTO THE CONTRACT
FOR'S REQUIREMENTS. THIS
INCLUDED TELLING THE CONTRACTOR
TO EXPECT UP TO 88 BOULDERS
LESS THAN THREE FEET IN
DIAMETER. UNFORTUNATELY, WE
ENCOUNTERED A RISK EVENT LESS
THAN 5% LIKELY. THE LARGEST
BOULDER EVER SEEN IN A NORTH
AMERICAN TUNNEL ALIGNMENT WHICH
WAS 12-FOOT IN DIAMETER. OUR
TEAM INCLUDING OUR CONTRACTOR
WORK DILIGENTLY . WASN'T GOING
TO IMPACT A MAJOR ARTERIAL. THE
CONTRACTOR ASSERTED DAMAGES OF
THREE-AND-A-HALF MONTHS OF
SCHEDULE DELAY AND $17 MILLION
IN COSTS. THESE ARE RECORDS IN
WHICH PEOPLE DOCUMENT HOW THEY
INSTALLED NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS DIFFERING
CONDITION COST US $1.8 MILLION.
WE RECENTLY OPENED CONSTRUCTION
BIDS FOR THE BALLARD PUMP
STATION AND CONVEYANCE PROJECT.
IT WAS FIRST BID IN 2023, SPU
RECEIVED A SINGLE BID FOR MORE
THAN $65 MILLION OVER OUR
BUDGET INCLUDING RESERVES. THIS
SHOWS THE STEPS SPU WENT
THROUGH TO GET TO THE
PROJECT'S REBID PROCESS. AFTER
OPENING THE BID IN 2023, WE
EVALUATED THE BID AND TRIED TO
UNDERSTAND THE LARGE COST
VARIANCE AND WHY THERE WAS ONLY
ONE BIDDER. WE HELD
CONVERSATIONS WITH BIDDERS WHO
DROPPED OUT AND CONVENED A
NUMBER OF PROJECT DELIVERY
EXPERTS TO HELP US EVALUATE THE
SITUATION. IN THE END, WE
DECIDED NOT TO AWARD THE BID
AND PROCEED WITH THE REBID
PROCESS. A BIG PART OF THE
REBID PROCESS WAS TO UNDERSTAND
THE MARKETPLACE AND HOW TO
ATTRACT MORE BIDDERS TO CREATE
COMPETITIVE TENSION. WE
SILICITED INPUT AND MADE
SEVERAL CHANGES TO CONTRACT
TERMS REGARDS RISK ALLOCATION
AND SCOPE CHANGES. WE
ADVERTISED FOR BIDS IN JANUARY
OF THIS YEAR AND JUST OPENED
BIDS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AT THE
END OF MARCH. I'M HAPPY TO
REPORT, WE DID RECEIVE THREE
BIDS, ALL THREE BETWEEN 4%
UNDER AND 2% OVER OUR
ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE. WE ARE IN
THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING THE
BIDS. WE EXPECT TO START
CONSTRUCTION ON THIS PROJECT IN
THE FALL OF THIS YEAR. WE HAVE
DONE WORK TO DEVELOP
PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES ON THE
IMPACTS I HAVE ALREADY
DESCRIBED. THE PRELIMINARY
ASSESSMENT INCLUDES A 14 TO 25%
INCREASE IN THE CURRENT TOTAL
PROJECT BUDGET FROM OUR CURRENT
BUDGET OF 570 MILLION. WE ARE
CONDUCTING A PROJECT UPDATE TO
GIVE US MORE CERTAINTY ABOUT
OUR REVISED BUDGET. AND I WILL
TALK ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS
NEXT. WE ARE CONTINUING TO
IMPLEMENT COST SAVING MEASURES
SUCH AS REDUCING SCOPE AND
FINDING MORE COST EFFECTIVE
MEANS AND METHODS TO COMPLETE
THE CONSTRUCTION WORK. WE HAVE
ALSO ACQUIRED OVER $341 MILLION
IN LOW INTEREST RATE FEDERAL
AND STATE LOANS. WHICH WILL
SAVE SPU RATE PAYERS OVER $267
MILLION RATHER THAN
CONVENTIONAL FINDS OVER 25
YEARS. AS I HAVE SAID, WE ARE
WORKING ON PROJECT UPDATES.
THIS PROCESS IS BUILT AROUND
THE ADVERTISING AND BIDDING
PROCESS FOR THE BALLARD PUMP
STATION CONVEYANCE PROJECT
WHICH I JUST DISCUSSED. THIS
WILL PROVIDE US MUCH MORE
BUDGET CLARITY BECAUSE IT
REPRESENTS ABOUT $195 MILLION
IN CONSTRUCTION WORK. NOW THAT
WE HAVE RECEIVED THE BIDS, WE
ARE CREATING A REVISED BUDGET
AND SCHEDULE FOR THE PROGRAM.
WE EXPECT TO COME BACK TO THIS
COMMITTEE WITH THAT INFORMATION
IN JUNE. WHILE WE WORK ON THIS
UPDATE, WE ARE CONTINUING TO
DELIVER THE PROJECT. THIS
INCLUDES COMPLETING
CONSTRUCTION ON THE STORAGE
TUNNEL.
>> THANK YOU. CHAIR, AGAIN, FOR
INVITING US. WE WILL BE BACK TO
YOU IN JUNE AFTER WE HAVE
COMPLETED OUR REASSESSMENT AND
WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT
PRESENTATION, I WILL OPEN IT UP
TO MY COLLEAGUES TO SEE IF THEY
HAVE QUESTIONS. I HAVE A
COUPLE. AND ALSO, LOOK ONLINE,
TOO, IF COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA
HAS ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. BUT
I WILL ASK MY COLLEAGUE
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE IF YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I KNOW YOU DO.
>> I DON'T WANT TO LET MY
CHAIR DOWN. THANK YOU FOR THE
PRESENTATION. IT IS VERY
INTERESTING, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS
NOT YOUR FIRST TIME BEFORE THE
COUNCIL. SO, VERY INTERESTING
FOR THE NEW MEMBERS INCLUDING
US, TOO, THREE OF US TODAY. THE
43 TO 50% OUT THERE IN TERMS OF
THAT ONE SLIDE, IN TERMS OF THE
OTHER, I FORGET THE NUMBER OF
OUTFLOWS, THE 78. WHATEVER THAT
BIGGER NUMBER WAS. IS THERE ANY
KIND OF GROUPING THAT IS
SIMILAR TO THIS GROUPING WITH
THE SHIP CANAL OR IS IT KIND OF
SPREAD OUT AND NOT EASILY
BROUGHT TOGETHER?
>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
AND THEY ARE SPREAD OUT AROUND
THE CITY. INTO LAKE WASHINGTON.
AND PUGET SOUND. ALSO, SMALL
AMOUNT IN THE DUWAMISH.
>> ARE THERE STRATEGIES TO DEAL
WITH THAT? I THINK OF ALL THE
NEW CONSTRUCTION I SEE
THROUGHOUT DISTRICT 7 IN TERMS
OF STORM WATER CATCHES. LIKE IF
IT IS A NEW BUILD HOME AS
OPPOSED TO THE OLDER HOMES.
THEY HAVE THESE, I CALL THEM
CATCH BASINS. BUT WHAT KIND OF
IMPACT IS THAT HAVING IN TERMS
OF REDUCING THE OUTFLOW
PROBLEM? I THINK ACROSS
DECADES, WE ARE ACTUALLY
UPDATING OUR PLANNING AROUND
THIS PROGRAM TO INCORPORATE
THOSE KINDS OF IDEAS. REALLY
DIRECTLY INTO THE PROGRAM AS A
WAY TO GET IN COMPLIANCE AND
THEN STAY IN COMPLIANCE IN THE
LONG TERM.
>> YOU KNOW, ALONG THE LINES,
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT
ISSUES THAT WE ARE FACING ON
THE COUNCIL ACROSS ALL THE
VARIOUS ELEMENTS. IT IS NOT
JUST, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES BUT
ACROSS EVERYWHERE REALLY. AND,
THAT IS THE COORDINATION AMONG
THE DEPARTMENTS. I'M WONDERING
IF THERE'S LESSONS LEARNED.
ARE YOU COMMUNICATING TO SDCI
FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT YOU HAVE DONE
SO FAR IS GREAT. BUT IF YOU DID
A LITTLE BIT MORE OR DID THIS,
THIS WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
LIKE A FOCUS ON THIS AREA
VERSUS THAT AREA. IS THERE ANY
COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE
DEPARTMENTS RELATED TO THIS?
>> THERE IS STRONG
COMMUNICATION. BETWEEN US AND
SDCI. WE ACTUALLY AUTHOR THE
CODE WHICH SDCI ADMINISTERS ON
OUR BEHALF. SO WE WORK
TOGETHER. WHAT WE DO TO ACHIEVE
GOALS LIKE THIS AND THEY
IMPLEMENT IT EVERY DAY.
>> MY LAST QUESTION IN
COORDINATION AMONG DEPARTMENTS.
THIS IS A MAJOR PROJECT AND YOU
STARTED JUST BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC. AND, BEFORE THE CPI,
THE INFLATION PERIOD WE HAVE.
OBVIOUSLY, CLEAR LESSONS
LEARNED THERE. IS THIS
SOMETHING BEING PASSED DOWN
WITH THE PROCESS, THE PROJECT
MANAGEMENT FINANCING? IS THIS
BEING PASSED DUE TO OTHER
DEPARTMENTS OR WITHIN OTHER
PROJECTS WITHIN SPU?
>> DEFINITELY. WE HAVE A
CAPITAL SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THE
MAYOR CONVENES WITH. ALL THE
DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS FOR THE
DEPARTMENTS WHO DELIVER MAJOR
CAPITAL PROGRAMS TO DO JUST
WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT TYPE OF COMMUNICATION AND
COORDINATION. WE ALSO HAVE
VARIOUS COORDINATION EFFORTS AT
THE STAFF LEVEL. OF COURSE, WE
COORDINATE MOSTLY WITH SDOT. A
LOT OF OUR WORK IS IN THE RIGHT
OF WAY THEY MANAGE SO IT MAKES
SENSE FOR US TO INCLUDE OUR
IMPROVEMENTS IN EACH'RE'S
WORK AND WE COORDINATE A LOT
WITH CITY LIGHT. BUT WE WORK
VERY HARD TO DO THAT
COORDINATION. WE ARE ALWAYS
LOOKING AT WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.
THAT IS A VERY HIGH PRIORITY
FOR US.
>> THE NEW COUNCIL IS ALSO
THERE FOR YOU TO FACILITATE
COORDINATION AMONG DEPARTMENTS
BECAUSE THAT ALWAYS HAPPENS.
AND SO, IF IT IS NEEDED, PLEASE
REACH OUT AND ENGAGE WITH US ON
THOSE PIECES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> HINT, HINT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE. AND, COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA, IF YOU DO HAVE
QUESTIONS JUST GO AHEAD AND
RAISE YOUR HAND AND I WILL LOOK
ON THE ZOOM. IF YOU HAVE ANY.
AND, YOU DO, COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA. I WILL GO AHEAD AND
CALL ON YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER JOY
HOLLINGSWORTH. I WANT TO THANK
THE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR
PRESENTATION. I'M ALSO VERY
GRATEFUL TO HAVE HAD A
BRIEFING. PART OF THIS OCCURS,
THIS WORK IS OCCURRING. THE
DISTRICT I REPRESENT. I REALLY
JUST WANT TO THANK THE
DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR EFFORTS
AND FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT ALONG
WITH SDOT TO THE BUSINESSES IN
WALLINGFORD IMPACTED BY THIS
PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION.
TRAFFIC, AND ET CETERA. I
APPRECIATE THEIR
RESPONSIVENESS. SO, THANK YOU.
>> IT HAS BEEN IMPACTFUL FOR
THE PEOPLE DRIVING IN THE AREA
AND THE BUSINESSES WE HAVE
WORKED IN VERY CLOSELY. WE KNOW
THAT BIG CONSTRUCTION IS SUPER
IMPACTFUL. WE APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT.
>> I HAVE NEVER SEEN SOMEONE
FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY
COME AND THANK A DEPARTMENT FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT. DID YOU PAY HIM
TO COME?
>> NO.
>> THAT WAS EXTREMELY
GRATIFYING. WE DEFINITELY
APPRECIATE THAT PARTNERSHIP.
THEY ARE A BIG STAKE HOLDER FOR
US. WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH
THEM AND WE ARE VERY GLAD THAT
THEY PARTNER WITH US AS WELL.
AND THAT THEY SUPPORT THE
PROJECT AND THAT THEY
APPRECIATE THE WORK.
>> IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE IN
YOUR SECRET SAUCE YOU ALL
COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY?
BECAUSE IT IS THE FIRST TIME I
HAVE HEARD SOMEONE SAY HEY,
THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. IS
THERE SOMETHING YOU TAKE
PRIDEFUL, LIKE, YOU HANG YOUR
HAT ON THAT YOU DO WELL?
>> I THINK IT IS, I THINK IT IS
AND MY TEAM IS BEHIND THIS. IS
THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN THESE
NEIGHBORHOODS. SOME OF THESE
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE FIVE
TO EIGHT YEARS. WE'LL BE IN
BALLARD FOR EIGHT TO NINE
YEARS. AND WE ARE LIKE A
NEIGHBOR AND WE NEED TO GET TO
KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS. UNDERSTAND
THEIR BUSINESS PRACTICES. AND
UNDERSTAND RESIDENCES. GARBAGE
PICKUP DAYS. AFTER ALL THOSE
KINDS OF THINGS. SO THAT IS AN
EXPECTATION FOR OUR TEAM. I
THINK SP DOES THIS. AND WE HAVE
BEEN WORKING WITH EUGENE AND
THE NORTH SEATTLE ASSOCIATION
PROBABLY EIGHT YEARS.
>> I WANT TO TEE UP IF OUR TWO
YOUNG FELLOWS HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS. YOU ARE MORE THAN
WELCOME TO COME TO THE MIC TO
ASK QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO SPU
IF YOU HAVE ANY. SO JUST THINK
ABOUT IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS. AND THEN, I DON'T
KNOW IF THAT IS OUT OF ORDER.
BUT IT IS MY COMMITTEE SO I
THOUGHT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO
THAT. AND THEN THE SECOND
THING, SO, THERE WAS A SLIDE ON
THERE. BECAUSE IF SOMEONE SEES
THIS AND THEY SEE, HEY, SOME
COSTS HAVE GONE UP, AND, THE
POINT WHERE IT SAYS WE ARE
COMMITTED TO OUR EXISTING PATH
AS A PERSON . TO BE IMPACTED BY
THE COST COVERAGES OF THE
PROJECT.
>> SO WE MANAGE WITHIN OUR RATE
PATH. IF THAT MEANS
RESCHEDULING OTHER WORK, WE
WORK IN THE RATE MATH WE HAVE
APPROVED. IT IS AN IMPORTANT
PART OF THE COMMITMENT TO OUR
CUSTOMERS AND WE ARE COMMITTED
TO DOING THAT.
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU. AND, I
ALSO WANTED TO COMMENT THAT I
THINK THE REBIDDING PROCESS WE
HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR
MEETING THAT IT WAS PROBABLY
THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WHEN WE
WERE ON OUR TOUR. AND YOU ALL
TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THE
ISSUES. AND THE COSTS HAVE GONE
UP, HAD CHANGED DOWN THE LINE
JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THE
INFLATION GOING ON. YOU KNOW.
AROUND THE WORLD. JUST IN
GENERAL. PEOPLE DON'T
UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTION COSTS
HAVE GONE UP. BUT PEOPLE KNOW
THAT FOOD. BECAUSE THAT IS ONE
THING THAT IS VERY TANGIBLE
HAVE GONE UP 25% ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THEY ARE CONSTRUCTION WISE. BUT
I'M SURE IT IS VERY SIMILAR.
SO. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS TO MY YOUNG CIVIC
MINDED? NO? THAT'S OKAY. I
DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE
SPOT. YOU HAVE SPU IN FRONT OF
YOU. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER
QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES.
NONE? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE
PRESENTATION. REALLY APPRECIATE
IT. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAD
ANY LAST COMMENTS OR ANYTHING.
>> NO, JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND WE'LL BE BACK.
>> AWESOME, LOOKING FORWARD TO
THAT. THANK YOU ALL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. AND, WILL
OUR PHENOMENAL CLERK PLEASE
READ AGENDA ITEM 2 INTO THE
RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. AN OR
INDIANAPOLIS RELATED TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
THE 2023 SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORT AND THE 2023 EXECUTIVE
OVERVIEW FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S USE OF CALLYO.
PRESENTING TODAY IS TAMASO
JOHNSON, JAMES BRITT, SARAH
CARRIER.
>> I WANT TO THANK TAMASO WHO
HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL WITH
PROVIDING BACKGROUND
INFORMATION. AND ALSO GREG
DOSS. YOU HAVE BEEN GREAT TO
EDUCATE US ON THIS AND BRIEF US
ON THIS. AND THANK YOU FOR
COMING BACK. YOU CAN BEGIN YOUR
PRESENTATION.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR JOY
HOLLINGSWORTH AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. I'M TAMASO
JOHNSON. I'M HERE TO PROVIDE A
BRIEF SUMMARY AND OVERVIEW OF
THE CENTRAL STAFF MEMO.
PROVIDING ANALYSIS ON COUNCIL
BILL 120753 AUTHORIZING THE USE
OF THIS TECHNOLOGY AND
APPROVING THE SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT REPORT FOR CALLYO. AS A
REMINDER, THIS IS PART OF A
RETROACTIVE SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE REVIEW PROCESS.
MEANING THIS TECHNOLOGY WAS
ALREADY IN USE PRIOR TO THE
PASSAGE OF THE SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE IN 2017. AS YOU
NOTED, WE HEARD THE COUNCIL
HEARD A REPORT FROM SPD AND THE
IT DEPARTMENT, A COMMITTEE
MEETING MARCH 27th. THE MEMO
SUMMARIZES THE INFORMATION
AVAILABLE ON THIS TECHNOLOGY.
THE PROCESS REGARDING THE
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE AS WELL
AS SOME COMMENTARY PROVIDED ON
THE USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. BY
WAY OF BACKGROUND, CALLYO IS AN
APPLICATION SUITE BEING USED BY
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
FOR CELL PHONE IDENTIFICATION
MASKING, MEANING CALLER ID
BLOCKING OR SPOOFING. AS WELL
AS AUDIO RECORDING PURPOSES AND
GPS LOCATION. THIS IS UTILIZED
BY THE TECHNICAL AND ELECTRONIC
SUPPORT UNIT OR TESU AS WELL AS
THE HIGH RISK VICTIM'S UNIT OR
HRVU WITHIN SPD. IT HAS BEEN IN
USE BY SPD SINCE 2013. AS FAR
AS DEPLOYMENT, THE HIGH RISK
VICTIMS UNIT USES THE
IDENTIFICATION MASKING FUNCTION
ONLY. ALL OTHER USES OF THE
TECHNOLOGY BY SPD ARE DEPLOYED
VIA THE TECHNICAL AND
ELECTRONIC SUPPORT UNIT.
PRIMARILY, THE OTHER USES ARE
AUDIO REPORTING. THOSE USES
THAT ARE NOT THE ID MASKING
FUNCTION. PERTAINING TO A COURT
ORDER, WARRANT OR WARRANT
EXCEPTION. AS FAR AS DATA
RETENTION AND STORAGE DATA
EXTRACTED IS EXTRACTED FROM THE
SYSTEM AND PUT ONTO PHYSICAL
MEDIA SUCH AS A THUMB DRIVE.
THIS IS THEN MADE AVAILABLE BY
TESU. PURGED FROM THE CALLYO
SYSTEM. THE INVESTIGATIVE DATA
THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE
INVESTIGATION AS WELL AS
COMPLIANT WITH THE WARRANT
REQUIREMENTS, IT DESCRIBES
POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THIS
TECHNOLOGY AND HOW SPD
MITIGATES THESE IMPACTS. THERE
WAS A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PERIOD
FOR CALLYO. IN 2021. SO, FROM
MAY TO JUNE OF 2021, COMMENTS
FROM THAT PERIOD ARE INCLUDED
IN FULL IN THE APPENDICES. THE
COMMENTS MADE DURING THAT
PERIOD, LARGELY MIRROR THE
THINGS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED BY
THE COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE
WORKING GROUP. WITH THE
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE PROCESS,
IT IS A REVIEW BY A COMMUNITY
SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP. TO
LOOK AT THE IMPACTS OF THIS AND
THE CIVIL LIBERTIES IMPACTS.
THE WORKING GROUP OF REPORT IS
PART OF THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORT PACKAGE SUBMITTED. THE
WORKING GROUP HIGHLIGHTED
SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS
INCLUDING HOW WARRANT
REQUIREMENTS APPLY. THE DATA
RETENTION AND STORAGE
PARTICULARLY, THE QUESTION OF
WHETHER OR NOT THIS TECHNOLOGY,
DATA GATHERED BY THIS
TECHNOLOGY WOULD BE SHARED WITH
A PROVIDER. THEIR PARENT
COMPANY, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE
STORED VIA CLOUD STORAGE. THERE
WAS A CTO RESPONSE, CHIEF
TECHNOLOGY WAS NOT ORIGINALLY
SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT. PRIOR TO
THE FIRST HEARING. THE CTO
RESPONSE LARGELY ADDRESSES THE
CONCERNS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE
COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE WORKING
GROUP. SPECIFICALLY IT
CLARIFIES WARRANTS GPS LOCATION
FUNCTIONS USED BY DEPARTMENTS
OTHER THAN OUR UNIT WHICH DOES
NOT USE THOSE FEATURES. IT ALSO
CLARIFIES THE DATA POLICY AND
AUDIO RECORDING POLICIES
CONTAINED THAT ARE GOVERNED
HERE. DATA IS NOT SHARED WITH
CALLYO OR MOTOROLA AND
DESCRIBES HOW THE DATA IS
STORED. AND THE CENTRAL STAFF
REPORT, NOTED ONE POLICY. WHICH
IS DATA HAS NOT UP TO THIS
POINT BEEN SUPPLIED BY SPD
REGARDING THE DEPLOYMENT. UNITS
USING THIS AND SPECIFIC CASE
TYPES. THERE ARE NO AMENDMENTS
OTHER THAN TO ADD THE CPO
RESPONSE. HOWEVER, IF THE
COMMITTEE SHOULD BE CURIOUS TO
OBTAIN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
ABOUT THE USAGE OF CALLYO, THAT
CAN BE OBTAINED OUTSIDE OF THE
AMENDMENT PROCESS. HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT
HAVE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. FOR THAT
INFORMATION. AND ALSO, LIKE,
RECAPPING US WHERE HOW WE GOT
HERE, TOO, AS WELL AND THE
HISTORY. DEFINITELY WANT TO
OPEN IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES IF
THEY HAVE QUESTIONS AND I WILL
PAUSE HERE AND ALSO LOOK ONLINE
TO SEE IF COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA
MIGHT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS
WELL. BUT COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE?
I WILL DEFER TO YOU IF YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS.
>> CHAIR, THANK YOU. I DON'T
HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
EXCEPT TO NOTE IT IS GOOD TO
HAVE THE CTO RESPONSE TO SPEAK
TO THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE
OBVIOUSLY, ANYTHING THAT
RELATES TO TECHNOLOGY AND
PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU KNOW, THE
CIVIL LIBERTY SIDE OF THINGS IS
ALWAYS GOING TO BE PARAMOUNT.
SO, THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE
CTO RESPONSE AS ATTACHMENT AND
THROUGH THE PROCESS TO BE PART
OF THIS.
>> THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, IF YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, RAISE YOUR
HAND. IF NOT, WE WILL CONTINUE
TO PROCEED. OKAY. AWESOME. I
WILL WAIT FOR ONE SECOND. I
KNOW SOMETIMES IT IS HARD TO
FIND THE BUTTON THERE. AND, I
DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO,
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS
FROM MY COLLEAGUES, WHEN THIS
LEGISLATION WAS TRANSMITTED,
AND THE CHIEF OFFICER'S
RESPONSE, SO TO FIX THIS, WE
HAVE TO AMEND THE BILL. AND SO,
I AM MOVING TO AMEND COUNCIL
BILL 120753 AS SHOWN AS AN
AMENDMENT ONE, AND, I WILL WAIT
TO HEAR IF THERE IS A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED. ARE THERE ANY
COMMENTS REGARDING THIS? SEEING
NONE. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED. WILL THE CLERK CALL
THE ROLL TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA?
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR HOLLINGSWORTH?
>> AYE.
>> THREE IN FAVOR, NONE
OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU CLERK. THE
AMENDMENT AS ADOPTED AND
COUNCIL MEMBERS, I MOVE THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BILL 120753. I WILL
WAIT TO SEE IF THERE IS A
SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL AND
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PASS THE
BILL AS AMENDED.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA?
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR HOLLINGSWORTH?
>> AYE.
>> THREE IN FAVOR, NONE
OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION OF THE
BILL AS AMENDED WILL BE SENT TO
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THE
NEXT, THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL
MEETING. CAN WE PLEASE MOVE
ONTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3? THE
HOSTAGE THROW PHONE? OH, WILL
THE CLERK PLEASE READ CLERK
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
>> ABSOLUTELY. AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER 3. AN ORDINANCE RELATED
TO SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENT TASTE. AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
THE 2023 SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORT AND THE 2023 EXECUTIVE
OVERVIEW FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S USE OF HOSTAGE
NEGOTIATION THROW TOWN.. THE
PRESENTERS ARE TAMASO JOHNSON,
JAMES BRETT, GREG DOSS ARE ALSO
AVAILABLE, AND ELEANOR BOUNDS.
>> AND I APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T
REALIZE CAPTAIN BRITT IS ON THE
LINE. I DIDN'T SEE YOU ALL ON
ZOOM. SO MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT
RECOGNIZING Y'ALL. TAMASO. CAN
YOU REINTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR
THE RECORD?
>> YES. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. FOR THE RECORD ONCE
AGAIN. TAMASO JOHNSON, COUNCIL
CENTRAL STAFF. GOING TO BE
REFERRING TO THAT BY THE
SHORTHAND OF THROW PHONE. THIS
IS ONCE AGAIN ANOTHER RETRO
ACTIVE ORDINANCE APPROVAL
MEANING THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY
HAS BEEN IN USE PRIOR TO THE
PASSAGE OF THE ORDINANCE IN
2017. IN THIS CASE, WE
UNDERSTAND THAT THESE HOSTAGE
THROW PHONES IN SOME FORM OR
ANOTHER HAVE BEEN BEING USED BY
SPD FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. THIS WAS
ALSO HEARD DURING THE LAST
MEETING. PRESENTATION BY SPD ON
ITD. SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE
PROCESS. BY WAY OF BACKGROUND,
TWO WAY COMMUNICATION DEVICES,
A DURABLE ENCLOSURE. USED FOR
COMMUNICATIONS IN SITUATIONS
WHERE SPD IS UNABLE TO DIRECTLY
COMMUNICATE OR COMMUNICATE IN A
SAFE MANNER DIRECTLY. WITH
INDIVIDUALS. THOSE CAN BE IN A
HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION SITUATION.
IN SITUATIONS WHERE THE SUBJECT
SPD NEEDS TO COMMUNICATE WITH
HAS BARRICADED THEMSELVES INTO
A LOCATION. OR, FOR OTHER
REASONS IS NOT ACCESSIBLE
IMMEDIATELY ACCESSIBLE FOR
COMMUNICATION. THESE ARE USED
BY THE HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION
TEAMS AND SWAT TEAMS
EXCLUSIVELY WITHIN SPD.
ATTEMPTED TO BE COMMUNICATED
WITH. THEY ALSO INCLUDE IN THE
CURRENT TECHNOLOGICAL VERSION,
EXTERNAL CAMERAS. DEPLOYMENT OF
THE THROW PHONES ARE AUTHORIZED
BY SUPERVISORS WITHIN THE
HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION TEAM AND,
OR, SWAT TEAM IF SWAT IS ON
SCENE AND UTILIZING THE
TECHNOLOGY. ALL DEPLOYMENTS ARE
LOGGED BY THOSE UNITS IN AFTER
ACTION REPORTS AS WELL. ONCE
AGAIN, THE SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORT FOR THE THROW PHONES
DESCRIBES POTENTIAL DISPARATE
IMPACTS OF THIS TECHNOLOGY AND
HOW THOSE ARE BEING MITIGATED
BY SPD. PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
AROUND THIS TECHNOLOGY OCCURRED
LAST YEAR. APRIL TO MAY, 2023.
THESE COMMENTS ARE ALSO
INCLUDED IN APPENDIX C AND D.
THEY MIRROR THE COMMUNITY
SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP
REPORT. OVERALL, THERE WAS A
LOWER, I WOULD SAY A LOWER
LEVEL OF OVERALL CONCERN ABOUT
CIVIL LIBERTIES IMPACTS FOR THE
THROW PHONES CONSIDERING THEY
ARE SORT OF MORE NICHE
APPLICATIONS AND AVAILABILITY.
THE WORKING GROUP REPORT,
HIGHLIGHTED CONSIDERATIONS, THE
POTENTIAL USE OF THE TECHNOLOGY
OF THROW PHONES BY UNITS OTHER
THAN HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION TEAM
OR SWAT. ONE CONCERN
HIGHLIGHTED IN PARTICULAR WAS
THE USE OF THIS SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY FOR OTHER GROUPS.
FOR EXAMPLE IN THE CONTEXT OF
DEPLOYMENT DURING A PROTEST.
THE WORKING GROUP ALSO HAD
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF
THROW PHONES IN USE. THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT.
THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT
WHETHER OR NOT BIO METRIC VOICE
OR VIDEO GAME ANALYSIS, TOOLS
USED IN CONNECTION WITH VIDEO
AND AUDIO DATA THAT MAY BE
RECORDED DURING USE OF THE
THROW PHONE. CTO, CHIEF
TECHNOLOGY OFFICER DID PROVIDE
A RESPONSE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN
THE ORIGINAL SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT REPORT FOR THE THROW
PHONES. DID ADEQUATELY ADDRESS
THE CONCERNS LISTED IN THE
WORKING GROUP, IN PARTICULAR,
THE INFORMATION THAT WAS
PROVIDED, ACCORDING TO THE
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE, THE
USAGE, THE SPECIFICATIONS, ONCE
THAT IS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL,
THAT IS WHAT GOVERNS USE OF
THIS TECHNOLOGY BY SPD. IF SPD
CHOOSES TO USE A TECHNOLOGY IN
A MANNER OUTSIDE OF THE FOUR
CORNERS OF THE SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT REPORT, THAT WOULD BE A
MATERIAL CHANGE. SO, IN OTHER
WORDS, BECAUSE THE SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT REPORT SPECIFIES THE
THROW PHONES ARE EXCLUSIVELY
USED BY HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION
TEAM AND SWAT FOR THE PURPOSES
DESCRIBED THERE, THAT USE IS
RESTRICTED TO THOSE UNITS. THE
CTO RESPONSE ALSO EXPLICITLY
STATED THAT BIO METRIC ANALYSIS
IS NOT BEING USED ON
INFORMATION COLLECTED THROUGH
THE THROW PHONES. THE POLICY
CONSIDERATIONS THAT CENTRAL
STAFF IDENTIFIED WERE NUMBER
ONE, USE ONCE AGAIN AS I JUST
DESCRIBED BY UNITS, AND FOR
SITUATIONS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF
THE SCOPE OF HOSTAGE
NEGOTIATION OR BARRICADED
PERSONS. THIS IS ADDRESSED AS I
JUST MENTIONED BY THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT AND
THE CTO RESPONSE. BUT, IN
THEORY, SPD COULD ALSO DRAFT
SPECIFIC POLICY TO ELUCIDATE
THIS FURTHER. THE OTHER
CONSIDERATION WE IDENTIFIED WAS
SIMILAR TO THE SURVEILLANCE
WORKING GROUP, THERE IS DATA
THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY SPD
REGARDING THE NUMBER OF THROW
PHONE DEPLOYMENTS. SHOULD THE
COUNCIL BE CURIOUS ABOUT
DEPLOYMENT DATA EITHER
RETROSPECTIVE OR FORWARD
LOOKING BEYOND 2021. THOSE
QUESTIONS COULD BE PUT TO SPD
OUTSIDE OF THIS LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS. I WILL ALSO MENTION
THE SUPPLIES TO EVERY
TECHNOLOGY ADOPTED THROUGH THE
SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE PROCESS.
ONCE THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN
ADOPTED, IN THE SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT REPORT, THE OFFICE OF
INSPECTOR GENERAL IS PART OF
THE SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE
PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN
CONTEMPLATED IN MUNICIPAL CODE
TASKED WITH GOING BACK DOING
ANNUAL TECHNOLOGY REVIEWS.
THERE IS ANOTHER MECHANISM
BUILT INTO THE SURVEILLANCE
ORDINANCE REVIEW PROCESS THERE.
TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR USAGE
AND COLLECT DATA ON. HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE.
>> THANK YOU TAMASO. FOR THAT
UPDATE. WE DO HAVE CAPTAIN
BRITT FROM PD ON THE LINE AS
WELL AS ELEANOR AND SARAH. SO I
WANTED TO PASS IT OFF TO MY
COLLEAGUES IF THEY HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE? ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU CHAIR
HOLLINGSWORTH. AND TO NOTE, TO
TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE
POINT YOU WERE MAKING AT THE
END, OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE WITH WORK ON
BOTH OF THESE AND OTHERS IN
TERMS OF YOU KNOW WORKING WITH
THE OIG, INSPECTOR GENERAL
JUDGE AND OTHERS ON ISSUES
RELATED TO THIS. AND WE WILL DO
SO AS PART OF OUR OVERSIGHT
RESPONSIBILITIES.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? DO YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL?
>> NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. OKAY. AS
WITH THE PREVIOUS BILL, THANK
YOU, TAMASO, FOR ALL THAT. I
KNOW THAT ALL OF THE
SURVEILLANCE DONE IN OUR CITY,
THEY GO THROUGH THE FULL
PROCESS, AS YOU HAVE STATED
THIS IS RETROACTIVE. WE HAVE,
WE ARE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT
FOR A COUPLE OF SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY
IN THE COMMUNICATION PHASE
WHERE PEOPLE WERE TAKING PUBLIC
COMMENT. IN THE COMMUNITY. AND
THEY ARE DISCUSSING ABOUT THE
DIFFERENT SURVEILLANCE ITEMS.
THESE ARE RETROACTIVE SO THESE
ARE PART OF THAT PROCESS. SO I
JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
PROVIDING ALL THAT INFORMATION
AND BACKGROUND AND ALL THE HARD
WORK YOU AND OUR CENTRAL STAFF
HAVE DONE. SO THANK YOU. AS
WITH THE PREVIOUS BILL, I NOW
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDS PASSAGE OF COUNCIL
BILL 120754. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO RECOMMEND THE
PASSAGE OF THE BILL. ARE THERE
ANY COMMENTS? CLERK, WILL YOU
CALL THE ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL
PASS THE BILL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA?
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR HOLLINGSWORTH?
>> AYE.
>> THREE IN FAVOR, NONE
OPPOSED.
>> MOTION CARRIES. AND
RECOMMENDATION, THE BILL PASSES
AS AMENDED. AND IT WILL BE SENT
TO THE COUNCIL MEETING WHICH I
NOW HAVE A DATE WHICH IS APRIL
16th. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT
KNOWING THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY
HEAD. APRIL 16th. AND I KNOW WE
DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER
AGENDA ITEMS BUT I WANT TO GIVE
OUR TWO YOUNG PEOPLE IF YOU
WANT TO COME BE IN THE RECORD
FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE TO
SAY YOU WERE AT THE COUNCIL
MEETING. YOU CAN COME SAY YOUR
NAME AND WHAT SCHOOL. NOT WHAT
SCHOOL, BUT NAME AND WHAT GRADE
YOU'RE IN. IF YOU WANT. SO YOU
CAN LOOK BACK ON THIS MOMENT.
OR SCOUTING UNIT. NO? OKAY,
DON'T WORRY. I WON'T PULL YOU
ON THE SPOT. I WANT TO THANK
YOU BOTH AND YOUR DAD FOR
BRINGING YOU ALL HERE TODAY. MY
PARENTS WERE ALWAYS CIVICALLY
ENGAGED AND THEY WOULD ALWAYS
BRING ME TO DIFFERENT MEETINGS
AND IT WAS SO IMPORTANT. I LOOK
BACK ON THESE MOMENTS AND THINK
HOW COOL IT WAS TO BE ABLE TO
COME AND YOUR DAD BRINGING YOU
IS REALLY COOL. SO THANK YOU
BOTH FOR COMING.
>> 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THEY WILL
BE SITTING AT THIS LOCATION ON
THE DAIS.
>> YES. THANK YOU.
INSPIRATIONAL. HOPEFULLY,
YOU'LL BE SITTING AT THE SAME
SPOT THAT WE ARE IN WITH THE
MICROPHONE. IT STARTED LIKE YOU
ALL IN THAT CHAIR RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN HAVING A DREAM AND A
VISION. SO THANK Y'ALL SO
MUCH. IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER
ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, DO ANY OF
MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY MORE
BUSINESS FOR THE COMMITTEE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA?
>> I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE
SENTIMENT AND THANK OUR TWO
STUDENTS FOR COMING TODAY AND
BEING ENGAGED. YOU CAN BE
CIVICALLY ENGAGED AT EVERY AGE
AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE AND I
AM ALWAYS IMPRESSED WHEN YOUNG
PEOPLE COME BEFORE US. BEFORE
THE CITY. IT REALLY IS AN
IMPORTANT THING TO BE CIVICALLY
ENGAGED AND THEY TOOK TIME OUT
OF THEIR SPRING BREAK TO COME
AND LISTEN IN. SO I HOPE IT WAS
AN INTERESTING EXPERIENCE. AND,
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BOTH
BEING HERE AND LISTENING AND
BEING ENGAGED THE WAY YOU HAVE.
THANK YOU. AND I HOPE YOU TWO
IN THE FUTURE, WILL HAVE A JOB
IN GOVERNMENT. IF NOT ON THE
DAIS. THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES. AND SO, THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA. I KNOW OUR MEETING
STARTED OFF HOT. AND Y'ALL
STAYED FOR THE WHOLE THING. SO,
SEEING NONE, THIS CONCLUDES OUR
APRIL 10th MEETING OF THE PARKS
PUBLIC UTILITIES AND TECHNOLOGY
COMMITTEE. OUR NEXT COMMITTEE
MEETING IS SCHEDULED WEDNESDAY,
APRIL 24th AT 2:00 P.M. NO
FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING
IS ADJOURNED. THE TIME RIGHT
NOW IS 3:11 P.M. ON THE DOT.
THANK YOU.