>> GOOD MORNING, PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE. CALLING TO ORDER, IT
IS 9:31 A.M., APRIL 9th 2024, I
AM ROBERT TUTTLE, CHAIR. WILL
BE COMMITTEE CALL ROLE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH?
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON?
>> HERE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE? THERE ARE
FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU. IF THERE IS NO
OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE
ADOPTED. HEARING NO OBJECTION
OR SEEING, THE AGENDA IS
ADOPTED. WE WILL HOPE IN THE
HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT THAT
SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA OR WITHIN THE
PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE, HOW
MANY SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP?
>> WE HAVE ZERO IN PERSON
SPEAKERS AND ZERO REMOTE
SPEAKERS.
>> WE WILL HAVE ZERO MINUTES
THIS MORNING AND WILL SKIP
OVER THE NEXT PIECE AND WILL
NOT HAVE YOU READ THE PUBLIC
COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS. WE WILL
NOW MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST ITEM
OF BUSINESS. BEFORE I SAY THAT,
I WANT TO WELCOME BOTH
PARTICIPANTS FOR TODAY'S
COMMITTEE MEETING, FIRST
ONLINE OVER ZOOM, WE HAVE
DIRECTOR CURRY MAYER ON ZONE.
ALSO FROM LYG, AND INSPECTOR
GENERAL JUDGE . THANK YOU FOR
COMING, BEFORE STARTING THE 1st
POINT, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS
A KEY FUNCTION OF GOVERNMENT
AND A MISSION OF PUBLIC SAFETY
WITH THE EMERGENCY REDNESS AND
OF THIS COMMITTEE. THAT'S ONE
OF THE THREE MAJOR MISSIONS
SETS. FIRE RESCUE, CRIME BEING
ONE, BEING THE SECOND.
EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS BEING
THE THIRD. EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS IS IMPORTANT TO
THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC SAFETY
PIECES BUT ALSO TO DIFFERENT
AREAS LIKE SEATTLE
TRANSPORTATION PLAN IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE
MAIN FOCUS. ONE OF THE REASONS
WHY WE ASKED IN TERMS OF
POLICY ELEMENTS TO INCLUDE
PUBLIC SAFETY, EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT AND EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS ALONG WITH FIRE
AND THE LIKE ARE IMPORTANT.
TOP DOWN, AND OUR ONLY EFFORT
IS CENTRAL TO HAVE A
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY. WITH
THAT, I WARMLY WELCOME THE
DIRECTOR, CURRY MAYER .
DIRECTOR, WELCOME.
>> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE , I
APPRECIATE THE INTRODUCTION.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
NELSON AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I'M REALLY THANKFUL TO BE ABLE
TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU
TODAY AND TALK ABOUT THE GOOD
WORK THAT MY TEAM DOES. BEFORE
I GET STARTED, DO YOU WANT ME
TO SHARE MY SCREEN OVER --
>> MY CLERK HAS REMINDED ME HE
NEEDS TO READ YOU INTO THE
RECORD. HOLD ON FIRST.
>> OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT BREATHING DISCUSSION
WITH DIRECTOR CURRY MAYER.
>> HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO
THAT?
>> YOU ARE WELCOME TO SHARE
YOUR SCREEN IN ADVANCE THE
SLIDES. YOU CAN DO IT IF YOU
NEED.
>> JUST GIVE ME A MINUTE AND I
WILL GET STARTED. MOVED TO
PRESENTATION MODE HOPEFULLY, IT
WILL WORK. HERE WE GO, CAN YOU
ALL SEE THAT? OKAY, GREAT.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
PRESENT YOU REMOTELY. I WOULD
HAVE RATHER BEEN WITH YOU IN
PERSON, I AM RECOVERING FROM AN
INJURY WITH LIMITED MOBILITY
BUT WILL HOPE TO BE BACK SOON.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THE OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS PART OF
PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR MISSION
SUPPORTS PUBLIC SAFETY IN A
NUMBER OF AREAS. PLANNING,
OPERATIONS, GRANTS, MITIGATION,
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND
HAZARD ANALYSIS. I WANTED TO
SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU TO
TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT WE
DO EVERY DAY, BLUE SKY DAYS
THAT SUPPORT OUR RESPONSE
MISSION AND MANY PEOPLE ARE
STILL UNCLEAR ON WHAT
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DOES,
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT
MAKES RESPONSE WORK WHICH IS
ONLY A QUARTER OF THE WORK WE
DO. HERE'S THE TEAM , 15 OF US
, SMALL BUT MIGHTY GROUP AND
WE WORK WITH ALL CITY
DEPARTMENTS ON A REGULAR BASE
IS. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS A TEAM
SPORT AND DOES NOT WORK WELL
UNLESS OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS
WHO HAVE PEOPLE, EQUIPMENT,
EXPERTISE TO SHARE WHEN
ANYTHING IMPACTS THE CITY
EITHER OUR ABILITY TO DO GOOD
WORK WE DO EVERY DAY TO HELP
THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK , AND
GO TO SCHOOL HERE TO SOMETHING
MORE CATASTROPHIC LIKE AN
EARTHQUAKE. IN ORDER FOR US TO
DO RESPONSE WELL, ALL OF THESE
THINGS NEED TO WORK OR --
OCCUR. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
WAYS WE ENGAGE WITH OTHER CITY
DEPARTMENTS, NONE OF THIS WORK
WE DO IS IN ISOLATION. THIS IS
NEVER JUST MY TEAM. REALLY, THE
PROGRAMS THAT WE ADMINISTER
CITYWIDE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
STRATEGIC PLAN, CITYWIDE
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
WITH OTHER OPERATIONAL
DEPARTMENTS. WE DESIGN AND
CONDUCT EXERCISES, AND DO
TRAINING ON A REGULAR BASIS IN
ORDER FOR US TO BE ALL PREPARED
SHOULD SOMETHING OCCUR . WHEN
SOMETHING OCCURS, IT CAN BE
ANYTHING FROM TOO MUCH SNOW AND
ICE WHICH MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO
GET AROUND THE CITY TO
SOMETHING MORE CATASTROPHIC
LIKE THE FLOODING THAT WE
EXPERIENCED IN SOUTH PARK JUST
A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO OR
SOMETHING MORE CATASTROPHIC
LIKE AN EARTHQUAKE. WE ALSO
HAVE A STAFF DUTY OFFICER WHO
IS ON CALL 24 SEVEN THAT
ROTATES FROM EACH OF THE STAFF
TRAINED AS A STAFF DUTY
OFFICER. WE WORK WITH THOSE
DEPARTMENTS WHO MAY EXPERIENCE
HAVING TO WORK EMERGENCIES.
POLICE AND FIRE, FOR EXAMPLE
WORK ON EMERGENCIES ALL THE
TIME. WHEN WE COME TO PLAY AS
IF THERE'S SOMETHING OUTSIDE
OF THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEY
NEED OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO HELP
THEM . TRANSPORTATION FOR
EXAMPLE, POSSIBLY CITY LIGHT.
THIS DUTY OFFICER IS ON ALL
THE TIME AND IS IN CONTACT WITH
OTHER DEPARTMENTS SHOULD THEY
NEED SOMETHING IN COORDINATING
WAYS THEY DO NOT DO ON REGULAR
BASIS. WITH A BIG IMPACT, THIS
IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. WE PRESENT
ONLY .17% OF THE CITY BUDGET
FOR 2024. YOU SEE THE BUDGET
NUMBER. THIS FEDERAL
REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA. WHAT
THAT MEANS IS ALL OF THE
PROJECTS FOR WHICH WE MIGHT GET
REIMBURSED OR SOMETHING THAT
IMPACTS THE CITY HAVE TO GO
THROUGH AND ARE COORDINATED BY
OUR OFFICE WHICH MEANS THE
FACILITATOR. WE COORDINATE WITH
THE STATE, AND FEMA. IN 2023,
WE HAVE $9,189,297 BACK TO THE
CITY. IN 2024, IT WAS 8
MILLION, 385,000 TO 54 --
SINCE 1993, WE HAVE BROUGHT
BACK TO THE CITY OVER $84
MILLION IN RECOVERY AND
MITIGATION. THAT MEANS THAT
SOME OF THAT MONEY WAS
DEDICATED TO MITIGATION
PROJECTS AGAIN, ALL THOSE OTHER
DEPARTMENTS ARE ENGAGED IN. I
WILL SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF
THAT IN A MINUTE, MANY WE HAVE
ALREADY SPENT BUT ALSO FOR
MITIGATION PROJECTS. JUST A
NOTE, WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE
GRANTS THAT WE -- COMES INTO
MY OFFICE AS THE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE GRANT
AND THAT FUNDS THREE OF THOSE
15 OEM POSITIONS. GRANTS AND
MITIGATION IS REALLY OUR
FAVORITE BECAUSE IT DOES SO
MUCH FOR THE CITY AND ALLOWS US
TO WORK ON PROJECTS WE WOULD
NOT BE ABLE TO FUND OTHERWISE .
WE ALWAYS LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE
FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON
MITIGATION, WE SAVE AT LEAST
SIX DOLLARS ON FUTURE DISASTER
LOSSES, THAT INCLUDES RESPONSE
AND RECOVERY. SOME EXAMPLES OF
MONEY, PROJECTS THAT CAME IN
THIS YEAR. WE WERE REWARDED A
PLANNING GRANT FOR THE LOW WERE
DUWAMISH RISE. THAT INCLUDES
THE PARK THAT FLOODS VERY
FREQUENTLY. WE ALSO HAVE MONEY
FOR LIBRARY COOLING CENTERS,
PUTTING IN AIR CONDITIONING AND
LIBRARIES SO THAT THEY CAN
SERVE AS COOLING CENTERS WHEN
WE HAVE EXTREME HEAT. OTHER
PROJECTS FOR THAT IS THE
UNIVERSITY LIBRARY BRANCH . NOT
ONLY DID WE GET MITIGATION
MONEY FOR IT TO BE, COOLING
CENTER, ALSO SEISMIC RETROFIT
FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.
WE ALSO GOT MONEY THIS YEAR SO
FAR FOR THE CITYWIDE CLIMATE
CHANGE AND SEA LEVEL RISE
MITIGATION. WE SEE HOW THE
CITY LEVEL -- SEA LEVEL
IMPACTS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS
WE DO TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE
SAFE. OUR PRIORITIES FOR THIS
YEAR INCLUDE UPGRADING --
UPDATING THE CITYWIDE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT PROGRAM STRATEGIC
PLAN. AS I MENTIONED, AND IS A
CITYWIDE EFFORT SO WE HAVE A
COMMITTEE CALLED THE DISASTER
MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE WHICH HAS
REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THOSE
OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS,
TRANSPORTATION, FIRE, POLICE,
HUMAN SERVICES . WE ALL COME
TOGETHER AND WRITE GOALS AND
OBJECTIVES ARE WHAT WE WANT TO
ACCOMPLISH TO MAKE SURE THAT
CITYWIDE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
PROGRAM WORKS. WE JUST FINISHED
THAT, THAT WAS ALMOST ALL THE
APPROVALS THAT WILL GO TO
DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS NEXT.
THIS YEAR, WE WILL OBTAIN THE
SEATTLE HAZARD IDENTIFICATION
AND VULNERABILITY ANALYSIS ,
ALSO CALLED THE SHIVA WHICH IS
A MOUTHFUL BUT I WILL TELL YOU
MORE ABOUT THAT MOMENTARILY
BECAUSE IT IS QUITE IMPRESSIVE
IN TERMS OF HOW DEEP WE DIVE
INTO NOT ONLY HAZARDS, BUT WHO
IS HONORABLE AND WHAT WE CAN
DO TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE PRIOR TO
ONE OF THOSE HAZARDS IMPACTING
THE CITY. WE ARE ALSO
INCREASING TSUNAMI PREPAREDNESS
. I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD A LOT
ABOUT THE CASCADIA FALL,
THERE'S ALSO A SEATTLE ALT
THAT RUNS PERPENDICULAR ,
CASCADIA RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH
DOWN THE COAST, SEATTLE FALLS
IS PERPENDICULAR AND FOR THE
CITY, THE SEATTLE FAULT IS
MORE IMPACTFUL. IT WOULD BE
ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT FOR
DOWNTOWN SEATTLE, TSUNAMI
PREPAREDNESS IS ON OUR PLAN
THIS YEAR FOR MAKING SURE ALL
BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT BE
IMPACTED AND RESIDENTS KNOW
WHAT THEY CAN DO SO A LARGE
PORTION WILL BE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT . WE ALSO HAVE
INCREASED THE NUMBER OF
EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER
TRAINING . ALL THE TRAINING
THAT WE DO FOR DEPARTMENTS
ACROSS THE CITY , THAT HELPS US
ENGAGE WITH EACH OTHER DURING
EMERGENCIES. WE'VE INCREASED
THE NUMBER OF TRAININGS WE DO
FOR THAT. WE ALSO ARE LOOKING
AT INCREASING PRIVATE SECTOR
ENGAGEMENT BOTH WITH BIG AND
SMALL CITIES . BIG CITY ,
EXCUSE ME BIG BUSINESSES AND
SMALL BUSINESSES NEED DIFFERENT
THINGS . THEY ALSO NEED TO BE
ENGAGED AND KNOW HOW -- WHAT
THEY CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THEIR
BUSINESSES ARE STILL
OPERATIONAL POSTEVENT, THAT IS
AN INITIATIVE THIS YEAR AS
WELL. I WANTED TO SHOW YOU
THIS LIST OF HAZARDS WHICH IS
PART OF THAT SEATTLE HAZARD
IDENTIFICATION AND BONE HER
ABILITY ANALYSIS I MENTIONED,
THERE'S QUITE A FEW THAT WE
LOOK AT ON A REGULAR BASIS,
HERE YOU SEE 18 , THESE ARE THE
ONES I CARRY THE GREATEST RISK
TO THE CITY . THAT DOESN'T
MEAN NOTHING ELSE CAN HAPPEN,
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD
BE THE MOST IMPACT FULL. THE
FIRST FIVE ARE THE ONES THAT WE
PAY THE MOST ATTENTION TO
MEANING EITHER RESPONSE MORE
FREQUENTLY, RESPOND TO THESE
TYPES OF EVENTS OR WE DO
INCLUDE OUR TRAINING AND
EXERCISES. THAT DOES NOT MEAN
THAT OTHER ONES CANNOT OCCUR ,
WHEN YOU HAVE LIMITED
RESOURCES, YOU HAVE TO PICK THE
ONES THAT YOU ARE PRETTY SURE
WILL HAPPEN ON A REGULAR BASIS
OR THE MOST DISRUPTIVE LIKE
EARTHQUAKES AND THEN FOCUS YOUR
EFFORTS ON THAT . EARTHQUAKES
WELL THEY ARE THE LEAST
FREQUENT ARE THE MOST
IMPACTFUL, SNOW AND ICE ,
WINDSTORMS, POWER OUTAGES AND
THEN I WOULD ADD EXTREME HEAT
ARE THE ONES THAT WE EXPERIENCE
MOST FREQUENTLY IN THE CITY. I
MENTIONED THAT HAZARD
IDENTIFICATION AND
VULNERABILITY ANALYSIS, I
WANTED TO GIVE YOU JUST A
SNAPSHOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE
LOOK AT. IT IS QUITE DETAILED,
TAKES A LOT OF RESEARCH AND A
LOT OF INTERACTION, NOT ONLY
WITH REGIONAL PARTNERS BUT ALSO
FEDERAL PARTNERS LIKE THE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE . THE
UNITED STATES GEOLOGICAL
SOCIETY. JUST FIRST OF ALL
IDENTIFYING WHAT ARE THOSE
HAZARDS FOR SEATTLE, WHAT IS
THEIR MAGNITUDE AND FREQUENCY,
AND IMPACT . YOU CAN SEE THE
CATEGORIES HERE, THEN WE DO A
DEEP DIVE INTO COMMUNITY
PROFILES SO THAT ALSO INCLUDES
DOES A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD
OR PORTION OF SEATTLE , WHAT IS
THE GEOGRAPHY AND HOW DOES THAT
AFFECT ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION
, EMERGENCY SERVICES, ECONOMY,
HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE
ECONOMY, HEALTHCARE, UTILITIES,
AND THE MEDIA, IT'S REALLY
INTERESTING THAT THE MAJORITY
OF THE UTILITIES RUN DOWN THE
MIDDLE OF THE CITY AND
HEALTHCARE IS ALSO CLUSTERED
THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS
THAT CORA DOOR, THAT HAS A
HUGE IMPACT ON THE CITY AT
LARGE . SOME VULNERABILITIES WE
LOOK AT WITH RELATION TO
COMMUNITY PROFILES ARE WHAT IS
THE SOCIAL NETWORK LOOKING LIKE
THEY ARE? HOW CONNECTED OUR
PEOPLE TO EACH OTHER, DO THEY
HAVE ACCESS TO SERVICES AND
WHAT IS THE URBAN CONCENTRATION
? WHAT ARE THE CITY
CAPABILITIES AND HOW QUICKLY
CAN WE RESPOND , WHAT IS THE
LIKELY IMPACT OF AN EARTHQUAKE
FOR EXAMPLE ON THOSE CITY
CAPABILITIES AND HOW WILL WE
ENSURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE QUICK
ACCESS TO SERVICES EVEN IF
ROADWAYS ARE BLOCKED OR BRIDGES
ARE DOWN, HOW DO WE GET THINGS
TO PEOPLE IN A HURRY? THIS
TAKES EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND
COORDINATION, AND IT UPDATED
EVERY THREE YEARS . MOST CITIES
HAVE SOME KIND OF HAZARD
IDENTIFICATION AND
VULNERABILITY ANALYSIS BUT IN
THE LONG TIME THAT I'VE BEEN
IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, I
HAVE NOT SEEN ONE THIS DETAILED
. THAT IS UPDATED THIS
FREQUENTLY OF THE ROTATION.
I'M REALLY PROUD THAT WE DO
THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT ALLOWS
US TO HELP THOSE MOST HONORABLE
AND NO WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST
IMPACTS FROM THE HAZARDS THAT
WE FACE. OUR EMERGENCY
OPERATIONS CENTER IS WHERE WE
COORDINATE WITH ALL CITY
DEPARTMENTS OR MOST CITY
DEPARTMENTS SHOULD THERE BE
SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS THE CITY
. WE ALSO ACTIVATE THE EEOC FOR
PLANNED EVENTS. WE HAVE A LOT
OF EVENTS IN SEATTLE SO,
ANYTIME YOU BRING IN LARGE
GROUPS OF PEOPLE TOGETHER, YOU
HAVE THE POSSIBILITY THAT
SOMEONE COULD BE HURT OR
PUBLIC SAFETY BECOMES AN ISSUE,
WE ACTIVATE FOR THE PRIVATE
PARADE, WE ACTIVATED FOR THE
MLB ALL-STAR WEEK . THAT WAS A
BIG ONE FOR US. WE WILL BE
ACTIVATING OF COURSE FOR FIFA
WHEN THAT COMES IN A COUPLE OF
YEARS. WE WILL BE GETTING A
LOT OF PRACTICE FOR THOSE
PLANNED EVENTS. AGAIN, WE HAVE
THOSE EEOC REPRESENTATIVES
FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS,
EXCUSE ME COME TOGETHER SO THAT
WE MAKE SURE THAT SHOULD
SOMETHING ARISE, THEN WE ARE
READY TO HELP PEOPLE. THE
DISASTER EVENT THAT WE ACTIVATE
FOR MOST FREQUENTLY ARE WINTER
STORMS. AS YOU WELL KNOW, IT
IMPACTS PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO
GET AROUND THE CITY . IT WOULD
ALSO IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO
PROVIDE SERVICES TO FOLKS
DEPENDING ON HOW SEVERE THE
STORMS ARE AND WE ALSO WANT TO
MAKE SURE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS , MIGRANT
POPULATIONS, ALL OF THOSE
PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY
IMPACTED BY ONE OF THE HAZARDS
THAT I MENTIONED OR SEVERE
WEATHER ARE ABLE TO GET THE
HELP THEY NEED. YOU MAY
REMEMBER THE DUCK BUS CRASH
THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO . WE
RESPONDED TO THAT ONE, IT WAS
PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING
BECAUSE IT INVOLVED A NUMBER
OF PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.
A LOT OF THOSE EMBASSIES WERE
INVOLVED AND WE WERE
COORDINATING THROUGH THE
EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER
WITH GOVERNMENTS OF OTHER
COUNTRIES TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY COULD FIND THE FOLKS FROM
THEIR COUNTRY THAT WERE
IMPACTED. THE CORE FUNCTIONS
IN THE EEOC ARE ONE, PROVIDE
THIS OVERWROUGHT SITUATIONAL
AWARENESS WHEN A DEPARTMENT ,
TRANSPORTATION FOR EXAMPLE
RESPONSE TO SOMETHING THAT IS
IN THERE WITHIN THEIR AREA OF
RESPONSIBILITY, THEY DO THAT ON
A REGULAR BASIS BUT WHEN
SOMETHING MORE IMPACTFUL
HAPPENS AND YOU HAVE MULTIPLE
DEPARTMENTS, YOU NEED ONE PLACE
THAT CAN SAY GIVE YOU THE
OVERALL OPERATIONAL PICTURE AND
SAY ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE
COMING TOGETHER AND THESE ARE
THE THINGS HAPPENING SO WE CAN
HELP EACH OTHER, WE DO NOT
DUPLICATE EFFORTS, ALSO OFTEN
TIMES WITH A BIG EVENT ,
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS NEED TO
SUPPORT EACH OTHER FOR
EXAMPLE, TRANSPORTATION IN THE
SNOW EVENT WOULD BE HELPING
CLEAR THE ROADS THAT EMERGENCY
VEHICLES CAN GET THROUGH AND
CAN ALSO GET TO HOSPITALS. WE
ALSO ACTIVATED FOR THE SOUTH
PARK FLOODING AGAIN, VERY
COMPLICATED MULTI-DAY EVENT
WITH COMPLICATED NEEDS FROM
THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY SO,
THIS IS WHERE THAT SITUATIONAL
AWARENESS HAPPENED WITH
MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, WE CAN
LOOK AT A PLAN OF ACTION. THIS
CENTER WOULD ALSO BE WHERE WE
COORDINATE WITH NEIGHBORING
JURISDICTIONS, KING COUNTY FOR
EXAMPLE SHOULD WE NEED
OUTSIDERS INSIST --
ASSISTANCE. ALSO IT'S A PLACE
WHERE THE POLICY DECISIONS CAN
BE MADE. IN SUMMARY, WE DO
HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY MISSION
AND SUPPORT THOSE TRADITIONAL
FIRST RESPONDERS. WE BRING IN
AND BRING TOGETHER ALL CITY
DEPARTMENTS THAT MIGHT HAVE
RESOURCES OR PEOPLE, OR
EXPERTISE . WE ARE WORKING
CONSTANTLY ON BLUE SKY DAYS SO
THAT GRAY SKY DAYS ARE EASIER
AND MORE AFFECT THE OF . AS I
MENTIONED, RESPONSE IS JUST A
SMALL PART OF OUR OVERALL
MISSION. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE REALLY
IMPORTANT BOTH INSIDE AND
OUTSIDE THE CITY, I'VE TALKED
A LOT ABOUT WORKING WITH OTHER
CITY DEPARTMENTS, NO CITY
REGARDLESS OF HOW LARGE THEY
ARE OR HOW BIG THEIR BUDGET IS
OR HOW MANY RESOURCES THEY HAVE
CAN RESPOND TO EVERYTHING THAT
CAN IMPACT A CITY ON THEIR OWN
, REALLY OUR SUCCESS DEPENDS ON
US MAKING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS
PRIOR TO AN EVENT . WE WORK
WITH UNIVERSITIES, COLLEGES,
BOTH LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL,
WE HAVE SOME RELATIONSHIPS WITH
UNIVERSITIES IN JAPAN BECAUSE
THEY HAVE A SIMILAR EARTHQUAKE
AND TSUNAMI THREAT JUST LIKE
WE DO . WE WORK WITH THE
PRIVATE SECTOR , THE GATES
FOUNDATION HAS GIVEN US SPACE
TO SERVE AS AN ALTERNATE
EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER
SHOULD THE OPERATION CENTER
NEAR FIRE STATION 10, WHERE THE
EEOC IS BECOMES INOPERABLE FOR
SOME REASON. THEN WE HAVE
SPACE, BOTH OF THE GATES
FOUNDATION AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON. BIG-CITY EMERGENCY
MANAGERS AS A GROUP OF
EMERGENCY -- BIG CITIES WHO
HAVE ESTABLISHED EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, SEATTLE
IS ONE WHERE WE ARE WELL KNOWN
FOR HOW -- FOR OUR PROGRAM IN
SEATTLE. WE ARE OFTEN ASKED BY
FEDERAL AGENCIES AND FEDERAL
DEPARTMENTS TO GIVE OPINIONS
ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND HOW WE
CAN DO THINGS BETTER. THAT'S
WHY THE BIG-CITY EMERGENCY
MANAGERS ARE CALLED OUT AS I
MENTIONED, THE MITIGATION AND
DISASTER RECOVERY
REIMBURSEMENT. WE ARE PROUD OF
THAT. IT IS HAPPENING ALL THE
TIME AND THE BEST PART IS NOT
ONLY DO WE GET REIMBURSED FOR
A LOT OF THE DISASTER
MANAGEMENT, BUT ALSO WE ARE
ALLOWED , WE ARE ALSO GIVEN
MONEY TO DO MITIGATION
PROJECTS. WORKING WITH THOSE
OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS ON WHAT
IS IT THAT WOULD FURTHER THEIR
DEPARTMENT MENTION -- MISSION.
THAT'S ALSO HELPING KEEP
PEOPLE SAFE , THAT IS THAT
MITIGATION PIECE . SO, THAT IS
THE END OF MY FORMAL
PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I
APPRECIATE THE BRIEFING AND I
ALWAYS GO TO MY VICE CHAIR
FIRST TO SEE IF HE HAS ANY
QUESTIONS AND THEN TO OTHER
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. VICE
CHAIR SAKA, DO YOU HAVE
ANYTHING ELSE?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE GRACE AND
PATIENCE, I WAS A FEW DAYS
LATE IN PERSON AND LET YOU KNOW
IN ADVANCE, AS WORKING PARENTS
, AS WE VERY WELL KNOW, THIS
WEEK IS SPRING BREAK AS A
WORKING PARENT OF THREE,
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE KIDS.
THE KIDDO CAMP , SPRING BREAK
CAMP LOGISTICS THIS MORNING
WERE PARTICULARLY ROUGH, FOR
ALL THE WORKING PARENTS IN THE
CITY STRUGGLING TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WILL
NAVIGATE AND NOT BE LATE TO
MORNING MEETINGS. I HEAR YOU,
EXHIBIT A RIGHT THIS MORNING.
IN ANY EVENT, THANK YOU,
DIRECTOR, MAYOR FOR THIS REALLY
INSIGHTFUL PRESENTATION ON
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, IT'S A
TOPIC THAT IS SOMEWHAT OTHER
LOOKED -- UNDER LOOKED IN MY
VIEW IN TERMS OF SIGNIFICANCE
AND IMPORTANCE IN TERMS OF THE
BROADER PUBLIC SAFETY PICTURE
BUT IS A TOPIC I KNOW AND AM
FAMILIAR WITH FIRSTHAND WHEN I
WAS IN THE RESERVES IN MY OLD
MILITARY UNIT, I WAS
ANTI-TERRORISM FORCE PROTECTION
OFFICER AND EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATIVE FOR
MY UNIT, I APPRECIATE THIS WORK
AND FUN FACT, I WAS -- WHEN I
WAS AN UNDERGRAD, I HAD AN
INTERNSHIP WITH SEATTLE PUBLIC
UTILITIES AND THEIR EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. THIS IS
REALLY IMPORTANT WORK, I KNOW
IT FIRSTHAND. COME EXCITED . I
GEEK OUT ABOUT THIS STUFF AND
ANYTHING TRANSPORTATION. YOU
ARE SPEAKING MY LANGUAGE. [
LAUGHTER ]
>> I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS TO
BETTER UNDERSTAND, DIRECTOR
CURRY MAYER ON THAT SLIDE, I
FORGET WHICH ONE, IT WAS A
SLIDE THAT YOU LISTED BASIC THE
THE 18 CATEGORIES OF EVENTS
THAT THE CITY ACTIVELY PLANS
FOR ON A REGULAR BASIS, YOU
ASTUTELY NOTED THAT
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU CAN'T PLAN
REGULARLY ANTICIPATE AND PLAN
FOR EVERY SINGLE POTENTIAL
CONCEIVABLE SCENARIO, BUT IN
TWO SHORT YEARS, WE HAVE A
HUGE EVENT COMING UP. THE 2026
WORLD CUP. 1 MILLION+ PEOPLE
CAN BE EXPECTED TO VISIT
SEATTLE. WE HAVE MATCHES THAT
TAKE PLACE IN SEATTLE, HUGE
EVENT, GREAT FOR OUR CITY FROM
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
STANDPOINT. FROM A TOURISM
STANDPOINT. WE WOULD JUST HAVE
TO LEARN HOW YOU AND YOUR
OFFICE ARE PLANNING FOR THAT
HUGE EVENT.
>> THANK YOU. I'M SO GLAD YOU
BROUGHT THAT UP. WE ALWAYS HAVE
WHAT WE SOMETIMES REFERRED TO
AS EMERGING THREATS OR THESE
OTHER EVENTS . OTHER THINGS
THAT WERE NOT PLANNED FOR IN .
WE ARE DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS
AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF
SEATTLE IS INVOLVED WITH THE
LOCAL ORGANIZING COMMITTEE
HERE TO LOOK AT ALL THE
ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE
HAPPENING FOR THE FIFA WORLD
CUP. ALL THE COMMITTEES ARE IN
DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, THERE'S
ONE FOR TRANSPORTATION WHICH
I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF AND
YOU PROBABLY HAVE STUFF
CONNECTED TO THAT EFFORT,
THERE IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ONE,
THERE IS ONE THAT IS FOCUSED ON
FAN ACTIVITIES, I HAVE STAFF
ON EACH OF THOSE COMMITTEES
THAT ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE
PLANNING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN
FOR THE WORLD CUP RIGHT NOW ?
THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER
EFFORTS, THE BIG-CITY EMERGENCY
MANAGERS AS I MENTIONED , A
NUMBER OF US SO LOS ANGELES, I
BELIEVE A CITY IN TEXAS,
THOSE HAVING FIFA, WE ARE
GETTING TOGETHER ON A REGULAR
BASIS AND CONNECTED WITH
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
TO LOOK AT HOW THEY CAN
SUPPORT WHAT WE ARE DOING BOTH
FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY
STANDPOINT AND THEN ALSO JUST
THE THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN
WITH HAVING LOTS OF EVENTS IN
ONE PARTICULAR AREA. AS YOU
KNOW , OR MAY HAVE HEARD, THERE
ARE OVER 400 AND EVENT THAT
WILL BE FROM VICTORIA, OR
BRITISH COLUMBIA ALL THE WAY TO
OUR ORDER WITH OREGON. UP AND
DOWN THE I-5 CORDILLERA, PEOPLE
WILL BE TRAVELING AND MOVING
AROUND FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME
. FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT'S A
LITTLE TERRIFYING ACTUALLY.
JUST KIDDING. PUBLIC SAFETY
WILL BE NUMBER ONE AND WE WILL
HAVE , NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TWO
YEARS TO DO THAT PLANNING, WE
ARE ALSO ACTIVATING FOR THOSE
EVENTS MEANING WE WILL HAVE
PEOPLE IN THAT EMERGENCY
OPERATION CENTER FROM THOSE
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO ENSURE
THAT SHOULD THERE BE SOMETHING
WE NEED TO RESPOND TO
IMMEDIATELY , WE CAN DO SO.
ALSO, I MEANT TO MENTION
EARLIER THAT COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE AND I WERE TALKING
ABOUT DOING SOME TYPE OF
TABLETOP EXERCISE AROUND
ACTIVE SHOOTER OR MASS
SHOOTING. ALSO IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, MY
TEAM IS WORKING ON THAT RIGHT
NOW AND WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING
TO SHARE FAIRLY SOON TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAD ALL THE MARKS
OF HOW YOU WANT TO MANAGE THAT
EXERCISE. I'M SUPER EXCITED TO
ENGAGE WITH ALL OF YOU ON HOW
-- WHAT YOUR ROLE IS, WHAT WE
ARE DOING AND ALSO WHAT THE
RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE IS FOR THE
EVENT LIKE THAT. HOPEFULLY I
ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S FORGET
THE -- OUR ESTEEMED CHAIR HERE
, THAT IDEA RATHER. I'M GLAD
TO HEAR THAT YOUR STAFF IS
ALREADY ENGAGED IN SOME OF
THESE PLANNING CONVERSATIONS. I
WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO TWO
THINGS, THIS IS COMING FROM
SOMEONE WHO I WAS -- ME AND MY
WIFE OR AT THE FINISH LINE OF A
2013 BOSTON MARATHON , ONE
BLOCK AWAY AT A FAMILY MEET UP
LOCATION, THE 2013 BOSTON
MARATHON BOMBING WHEN BOTH OF
THOSE DEVICES WENT OFF. SO,
YOU KNOW, I'M COMING AT IT NOT
ONLY IN LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE PERSPECTIVE BUT ALSO
AS SOMEONE WHO HAS WITNESSED
FIRSTHAND WHAT A MASS EVENT ,
IT'S A TARGET OF OPPORTUNITY
FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT -- DOMESTIC
TERROR, FOR INTERNATIONAL
TERROR, AND SO WE NEED TO BE
VERY PREPARED . I ENCOURAGE YOU
TO DO TWO THINGS AS WE ARE TWO
YEARS AWAY NOW FROM THIS BIG
EVENT. GET MORE CLOSELY
INVOLVED IN CONNECTING YOURSELF
AS A LEADER, AS THE DATE
DRAWS NEARER AND SECONDLY,
LEAN HEAVY ON FEDERAL PARTNERS
WHO HAVE AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW
A LOT MORE ROBUST CAPABILITY
AND RESOURCES, AND KNOW-HOW TO
LEAN ON THOSE FOLKS . OUR PEER
AND PARTNER AGENCIES AND
ORGANIZATIONS AT THE STATE
LEVEL, THE ACCOUNTING LEVEL AS
WELL. THAT IS A HUGE EVENT AND
IT'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY
UNFORTUNATELY ALSO CREATES HUGE
WARNER ABILITY AS WELL. THANK
YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. I
APPRECIATE THAT.
>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR,
COUNCIL PRESIDENT?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
SOMETIMES THINK ABOUT EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT LIKE HOUSEWORK , NO
ONE NOTICES UNTIL IT IS NOT
DONE RIGHT? THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR KEEPING US SAFE AHEAD
OF TIME. I HAVE A QUESTION
ABOUT THE EMERGENCY OPERATION
CENTER, SOMETIMES IT IS TALKED
ABOUT IN THE NEWS WHEN IT IS
-- THERE IS A LINE SAYING AND
-- THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS
CENTER WAS ACTIVATED AS IF THAT
IS A TRIGGER FOR THE ABILITY
FOR CITY OFFICIALS TO DO
SOMETHING TO TAKE EXTRA STEPS
OR -- I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT
ARE THE CRITERIA THAT OUR
EMERGENCY FIRST RESPONDERS AND
EVERYBODY IN THIS SPHERE , AND
THE MAYOR TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU DECIDE
TO OPEN THE EEOC? WHAT DOES IT
MEAN TO DO IN TERMS OF
EXECUTIVE POWER OR WHAT .
>> SURE, OKAY, GREAT, THANK
YOU, GOOD QUESTION. FIRST OF
ALL, KIND OF GOING BACKWARDS,
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS PRIOR TO
THE EEOC BEING ACTIVATED ,
FIRST RESPONDER DEPARTMENTS
LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND
SPD DO EMERGENCIES AS PART OF
THEIR REGULAR WAY OF DOING
WORK, DO THAT EVERY DAY AND
THEY DO NOT NEED OUTSIDE HELP.
THE EEOC IS ACTIVATED, THAT
DECISION WOULD BE ME IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT
TO ACTIVATE . ANY CITY
DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR CAN REQUEST
AND ACTIVATION, THE FIRST
THING WE LOOK AT IS WHAT IS THE
PROBLEM YOU ARE TRYING TO
SOLVE, WOULD THAT PROBLEM
BENEFIT BY HAVING EXPERTISE
FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS COME
TOGETHER TO WORK ON WHATEVER IS
THE PROBLEM? THE OTHER REASON
PEOPLE WOULD COME TOGETHER ARE
FOR THOSE PLANNED EVENTS AS I
MENTIONED . WE WOULD
AUTOMATICALLY HAVE
TRANSPORTATION, CITY, LIKE,
RPD, HUMAN SERVICES COME
TOGETHER FOR A PLANNED EVENT
BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THAT
PROACTIVELY. NOT THAT THAT
SOMETHING HAS ALREADY HAPPENED,
WE ARE LOOKING AT COULD
SOMETHING HAPPEN? LET'S SAY
FOR SOUTH PARK FOR EXAMPLE, FOR
LONGTIME CITY DEPARTMENTS
DOING THE WORK THAT THEY NEEDED
TO DO, IT WAS ALMOST AT THE
POINT OF LOOKING AT HOW WE WILL
MANAGE RECOVERY , THERE WERE A
LOT OF THINGS THAT PARTICULAR
NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDED THAT NEEDED
A LOT OF EXPERTISE FROM
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OUTSIDE
OF THE TYPE OF RESPONSIBILITIE
S THAT THEY DO ON A DAILY BASIS
. THEN IT BENEFITED US TO BE
TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM TO MAKE
DECISIONS AND DO THOSE -- THAT
KIND OF PROBLEM SOLVING FOR
THOSE IMPACTED BY THE DISASTER
TOGETHER, THAT'S THE BENEFIT
OF THE EEOC. CONVENING,
COLLABORATING, MEDIATING. OUR
JOB IS TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THOSE DEPARTMENTS SO WE
CAN SAY THESE ARE THE
DEPARTMENTS WE THINK SHOULD
COME TOGETHER TO DO THAT
PROBLEM SOLVING . THEN YOU
ASKED ABOUT AUTHORITY. BY
DEFAULT, ANYTHING THAT IMPACTS
THE CITY IS THE OVERALL
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT IS THE
MAYOR. IF THE MAYOR DECIDES TO
PROCLAIM A LOCAL EMERGENCY,
THEN HE WOULD DO THAT IN HIS
OFFICE IN CONJUNCTION WITH ALL
OF YOU. THERE ARE LIMITED
POWERS WITH A LOCAL EMERGENCY
PROCLAMATION , FOR EXAMPLE, IT
GIVES THE POWER TO HAVE A
CURFEW OR TO BLOCK OFF CERTAIN
STREETS OR TO PROHIBIT THE SALE
OF ALCOHOL OR GUNS. VERY
LIMITED EXTRA POWERS THAT THE
MAYOR HAS IF YOU HAVE A LOCAL
PROCLAMATION. IT CAN BE THE
GATEWAY OR CONNECTION TO A
BIGGER PROCLAMATION EVEN HE
THAT -- AT THE COUNTY LEVEL OR
THE STATE LEVEL. THAT IS NOT
AUTOMATIC, IT BASICALLY SAYS
TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT
, THE CITY OF SEATTLE IS
OVERWHELMED IN SOME WAY IT DOES
NOT MEAN THE ENTIRE CITY IS
OVERWHELMED, THE EVENT THAT WE
ARE PROCLAIMING AS AN EMERGENT
THE HAS OVERWHELMED THE CITY
IN SOME WAY. ONE, WE NEED
THESE OTHER EXECUTIVE POWERS
AND YOU NEED OUTSIDE HELP, IT
DOES ALSO GIVE THE MAYOR THE
ABILITY TO MOVE FUNDS FROM ONE
CITY FUNCTION TO ANOTHER, FOR
PURPOSES OF THE EMERGENCY. IF
YOU NEEDED TO DO THAT FOR LIFE
SAFETY, FOR EXAMPLE YOU COULD
MAKE THAT TRANSFER . HOWEVER,
FAS HAS EMERGENCY POWERS THAT
DON'T REQUIRE A PROCLAMATION.
THEY CAN DO EMERGENCY
PURCHASING OR EMERGENCY
CONTRACTING. ALL OF YOU , SOME
OF YOU AND YOUR SENIOR STAFF
AND MEMBERS OF THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH
THE JOINT PROTOCOL DRILL. WE
ARE ENGAGING WITH YOUR OFFICE,
COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. WE
WILL GO EXACTLY WHAT IS THE
PROTOCOL FOR PUTTING AN
EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION IN PLACE
, WHAT DOES IT DO, WHAT DOES IT
NOT DO? IN THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.
THAT'S A GOOD SUMMARY. IF YOU
HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, LET ME
KNOW. IT FOR THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT AS WELL, THAT'S A
FORMALITY WE DO TO MAKE SURE
THEIR NEW COUNCILMEMBERS THAT
YOU ALL FOR ALL THOSE
PROCEDURES. THAT WAS IN THE
BACK OF MY MIND WHEN I LISTEN
TO PRESENTATIONS.
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH,
AS IT TURNS OUT, MY STAFF IS
VERY INTERESTED IN REFLECTING
. A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN
DIFFERENT POINTS. REFERENCING
BOOKS LIKE THE UNTHINKABLE, WHO
SURVIVES A DISASTER AND WHY
WHICH IS A PLUG FOR TRAINING
PIECES THAT YOU DO. I
DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE MY
COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL TO
PROMOTE ALL THOSE CLASSES THAT
-- I'VE DONE MANY MYSELF.
STOPPED THE BLEED, TONIGHT
THERE IS A DISASTER
PREPAREDNESS ONE AND WE WILL
PARTICIPATE. SEPARATELY,
INTERNS ARE SOME QUESTIONS
REGARDING OEMS BEING UPDATED.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN,
SHIVA AS YOU MENTIONED. WE
HAVE AN INCIDENT THAT IT'S
NOT DOING, IS THERE SOMETHING
OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO BE
DOING THAT WE ARE NOT THINKING
APART THAT PART OF STANDARD
PROTOCOL THAT WE NEED TO BE
AWARE OF, AND TRYING TO
CONTEMPLATE HOW TO FOLD IN
AHEAD OF TIME?
>> YEAH, GREAT QUESTION. I
THINK EXPANDING IN TWO
PARTICULAR AREAS WE ARE ALWAYS
LOOKING TO EXPAND, PARTICULARLY
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE
KIND OF NEW AND EMERGING
THREATS, THAT IS INCREASING OUR
OUTREACH PUKE OUTREACH AND
EDUCATION WHICH WOULD REQUIRE
THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL
PEOPLE. WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT
PROGRAM CALLED THE COMMUNITY
SAFETY AMBASSADORS, WHERE WE
HAVE UNDER CONTRACT PEOPLE IN
VARIOUS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
THAT HELP US TEACH EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT DISASTER SKILLS
PRIMARILY TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS
CURRENTLY, THEY -- WE HAVE 13
AND THEY SPEAK 16 DIFFERENT
LANGUAGES. THAT PROVIDES THAT
LINK PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT TRUST
GOVERNMENT, BUT THEY TRUST THE
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND ACID ARE
IS A MEMBER USUALLY OF
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION OR HAS
TIES TO A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY
SO THERE -- THEY ARE A TRUSTED
PERSON AND CAN HELP TEACH THOSE
DISASTER SKILLS. AS YOU KNOW,
JUST HAVTHAN
THEY DID NOT KNOW THE HAZARD
THAT MIGHT IMPACT THEM. WE PAY
THE COMMUNITY SAFETY
AMBASSADORS TO DO THAT WORK FOR
US. CURRENTLY, THE COMMUNITY
SAFETY INVESTOR PROGRAM IS
FUNDED BY A GRANT. THAT GRANT
IS ENDING NEXT YEAR. THERE'S
ADJUNCTS IF YOU WILL. I HAVE
A TEAM OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
, TWO COORDINATORS AND A
MANAGER. THE CSA'S SUPPLEMENT
IS AT WORK, AS YOU IMAGINE,
THAT IS SUPER IMPACT BECAUSE
OF LANGUAGES THEY SPEAK AND THE
DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT
THEY ARE CONNECTED TO, THAT IS
ONE. THE OTHER IS CONTINUED
NEW ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PRIVATE
SECTOR. ALSO, YOU PROBABLY
HEARD OR READ THAT MOST
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS
OWNED BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR, A
LITTLE DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT
PLACES DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU
LIVE SO THAT CONSTANT
ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PRIVATE
SECTOR TAKES ADDITIONAL PEOPLE
TO GO OUT AND DO THAT. SO THAT
WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND
HAVE THOSE LINKAGES WHEN
SOMETHING OCCURS OR SOMETHING
MIGHT OCCUR. CYBERSECURITY, YOU
KNOW ALSO IS A BIG TOPIC OF
CONCERN. SO, THE EMERGENCY
EXECUTIVE BOARD WHICH ARE
DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS FROM
OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS,
THERE'S ABOUT 30 OF THEM MEET
WITH ME EVERY OTHER MONTH AND
IN APRIL, WE ARE DOING A
CYBERSECURITY EXERCISE THAT'S
BEEN PUT TOGETHER BY THE
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT . THAT ALSO, THOSE
ARE LINKAGES WITH PRIVATE
SECTOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT
WOULD BE PARTICULARLY HELPFUL
FOR CYBERSECURITY AS WELL .
>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE
THAT, I FIND THE COMMUNITY
AMBASSADORS VERY KEY, VERY
IMPORTANT, AND WE WILL HAVE TO
INVITE YOU TO OUR FUTURE
DISTRICT SEVEN NEIGHBORHOOD
COUNCIL TO ENSURE THE DISTRICT
SEVERIN IS -- SEVEN IS WELL
COVERED.
>> PRIVATE SECTOR IS IMPORTANT
TOO WHICH REMINDS ME OF
SOMETHING NOT MENTIONED IN THE
BRIEFING BUT IS VERY IMPORTANT
FOR A COMMUNITY'S RESILIENCY
AND ABILITY TO RESPOND TO A
MAJOR INCIDENT LIKE AN
EARTHQUAKE AS AN INSURANCE,
SEEING LIKE IN CHRISTCHURCH NEW
ZEALAND, THAT'S ANOTHER AREA
THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S
ENOUGH ATTENTION THAT HAS
INSURANCE WITH VARIOUS LEVELS
OF COVERAGE THE PERCENTAGE OF
YOUR COMMUNITY THAT IS COVERED
IN THE ABILITY FOR THE
COMMUNITY TO BOUNCE BACK IS
TIED TO INSURANCE, THAT WAS
FIGURED BY YOUR POINT OF
PRIVATE SECTOR. TONS OF
QUESTIONS I COULD ASK, I WILL
SKIP OVER THOSE BECAUSE I
THINK YOU HIT THEM IN THE
BRIEFING, I DO WANT TO GO DOWN
TO ONE I HAVE REGARDING IT GOES
OFF TO YOUR POINT ABOUT
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
AMBASSADORS, WORKING WITH THE
COMMUNITIES AS REPRESENTED BY
THE ORANGE AND RED OF YOUR
SHIVA MAP, THAT IS IMPORTANT.
THIS IS A THING I HAVE
MENTIONED TO THE MAYOR'S TEAM
IN EARLIER BRIEFINGS, THE
IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC SAFETY AS
A POLICY ELEMENT , SOMETHING
LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MY
QUESTION OR MY ASK IF YOU WILL
IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE WHEN
THESE THINGS HAPPEN , THOSE
COMMUNITIES HURT MOST, I HAVE
IN MY MIND RIGHT NOW KATRINA
AND HOW NEIGHBORHOODS OF NEW
ORLEANS WERE SEVERELY IMPACTED
WHEN OTHERS WEREN'T, THIS IS
SO IMPORTANT AND IT GOES TO THE
FUTURE PLANNING PIECE OF THIS,
IT'S A BIT OF A QUESTION AND
THEN ASK. YOUR ENGAGEMENT FROM
OEM WITH THE MAYOR'S TEAM.
REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN TO ENSURE AS WE GROW AS A
CITY , WE GROW SMARTLY AS
RESPECT TO EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS .
>> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT AS
WELL, WE ARE ENGAGED WITH THAT
EFFORT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
EMERGENCY PLAN. A NUMBER OF MY
STAFF THAT HAVE DIFFERENT
TYPES OF EXPERTISE ARE LOOKING
AT THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT IF
SOME OF THE HAZARDS ARE NOT
TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE ARE
LOOKING AT PLANNING EFFORTS,
THAT IS INCLUDED. WE ARE ASKED
ON A REGULAR BASIS WHEN THAT
PLAN IS UPDATED WHAT IS FROM
OUR PERSPECTIVE --
UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF THE
DEPARTMENTS THAT WE DEAL WITH
ON A REGULAR BASIS HAVE AN
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSON OR
SOMETIMES THEY HAVE SEVERAL
LIKE SBU HAS SEVERAL THAT WORK
IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
DEPARTMENT DIVISION OF THAT
DEPARTMENT . THEY ARE LOOKING
AT THAT AS WELL, I'M ALSO
REALLY GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP
BECAUSE PART OF THE BEAUTY OF
HAVING THE SHIVA I MENTIONED
IS THAT WE CAN DO THAT REALLY
DEEP DIVE AND LOOK AT WHAT IS
IT THAT'S GOING TO BE MOST
IMPACTFUL IN TERMS OF A HAZARD?
WE HAVE A REALLY INTERESTING
PROJECT I'M PARTICULARLY PROUD
OF , A MITIGATION GRANT FROM
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE ARE
LOOKING AT SOMETHING CALLED
RESILIENCE HOBBS. -- HUBS. OSC
IS DOING THOSE IN CITY
FACILITIES, WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE AND PLACES WHERE PEOPLE
CAN GO CLOSE TO DISASTER WHERE
THEY CAN GET RESOURCES,
COMMUNICATION, AND THINGS LIKE
THAT. THE PROGRAM IS COMING
OUT OF MY OFFICE IS LOOKING AT
RESILIENCE HUBS FOR
CATASTROPHIC EVENTS AND LOOKING
AT THEM WITH COMMUNITY INPUT.
THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS
REALLY IMPACT ALL FOR
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS NONE OF
THE PLANS WE DO, IT'S NOT
DONE, NONE OF THE PLANS ARE
DONE WITHOUT COMMUNITY INPUT
WHICH IS ALSO PRETTY NEW FOR
THE PROFESSION, NOT HERE. WE
HAVE BEEN DOING IT CONSISTENTLY
FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THAT'S
NOT TRUE EVERYWHERE . FOR
EXAMPLE, WHEN WE MENTIONED
KATRINA . ONE OF THE TERRIBLE
THINGS ABOUT THAT WAS THE
EVACUATION PLAN HAD NOT BEEN
VETTED . THE WAY THAT THEY HAD
ASKED PEOPLE TO EVACUATE WAS
NOT POSSIBLE FOR CERTAIN
COMMUNITIES THERE. THEY DO NOT
HAVE TRANSPORTATION OR DID NOT
KNOW WHAT THE EVACUATION PLAN
WAS . ANY TIME YOU DO A PLAN,
WHETHER IT'S RESILIENCE HUBS
MEANING WHERE ARE THEY AND WHAT
SHOULD BE IN THEM, ALL THAT
PLANNING EFFORT IS FOCUSED ON
COMMUNITY INPUT, WHAT'S THE
COMMUNITY THINK , WHAT MAKES
SENSE FOR THEM, WHAT WILL WORK
FOR THEM? IT'S NEVER
GOVERNMENT TELLING COMMUNITIES
YOU SHOULD DO THIS AND DON'T
DO THAT. WE PUT TOGETHER
SOMETHING AND HAVE FOCUS
GROUPS, WE GET AS MUCH --
SURVEYS AND AS MUCH COMMUNITY
INPUT AS WE CAN. THAT
EVACUATION PLAN FOR EXAMPLE,
WE WOULD PROVIDE STRUCTURE AND
WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO SAY
WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM, IT
TAKES LONGER BUT IS DEFINITELY
MORE SUCCESSFUL AND MORE
EFFECTIVE WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO
HAVE THAT COMMUNITY INPUT, WE
CAN DO THAT AS WELL, SOMETHING
ELSE TO MENTION IF THERE WERE
CATASTROPHIC EARTHQUAKES, THERE
WOULD BE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
WOULD BE ISOLATED FOR PORTIONS
OF THE CITY THAT WOULD BE
NATURALLY ISOLATED POST
CATASTROPHIC EVENT. BASED ON
HOW ROADS ARE BLOCKED, WHAT DO
THOSE LOOK LIKE , AS BEST AS WE
CAN ESTIMATE KNOWING WHERE THE
BRIDGES AND THAT MIGHT
COLLAPSE. HOW CAN WE POSITION
CITY RESOURCES AND EITHER
RESILIENCE HUBS FOR SUPPLIES
AND WHATNOT FOR AREAS SO THAT
PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND CAN BE OKAY
FOR A WHILE ON THEIR OWN? WE
HAVE -- PARTNERSHIP WITH
EMERGENCY HUBS WHICH JUST
RELIES ON PROVIDED COMMUNITY
COMMUNICATION. THOSE ARE ALL
RUN BY VOLUNTEERS BUT ALSO IT
PROVIDES COMMUNICATION AND A
WAY TO CONNECT WITH EITHER THE
CITY OR OTHER PEOPLE WHO MIGHT
BE HELPING IN A DISASTER. WE
TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO DO AN
EMERGENCY HUB AND THEN THOSE
ARE RUN BY VOLUNTEERS.
>> DISTRICT SEVEN, YOU KNOW THE
POINT JUST TO CLOSE, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.
THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. SORRY.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE I DID NOT
SEE THE HANDPICK
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTOR
MAYOR , I APPRECIATE YOU. I
WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON YOUR
WORK CHART WHICH IS VERY CLEAR
AND HAD PHOTOGRAPHS, THAT'S
THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN
THAT, I WOULD STRONGLY
ENCOURAGE ALL OTHER
DEPARTMENTS TO FOLLOW YOUR
LEAD, THE OTHER MORE SERIOUS
QUESTION RELATES TO WHAT YOU
WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING MET
WITH SOME OF THE EMERGENCY HUB
VOLUNTEERS IN DISTRICT FIVE,
THE QUESTION BEING REALLY HOW
LONG IS -- WHAT IS THE LENGTH
OF TIME THAT IS REALISTIC TO
EXPECT THAT WE ARE IN FACT
GOING TO GET A MORE CENTRALIZED
RESPONSE. I DO NOT -- I REALIZE
WE ARE ON OUR OWN. HOW LONG
PEOPLE SHOULD BE ON THEIR OWN ?
>> HOW LONG SHOULD WE EXPECT
FOR THEIR SHADY -- CITIES ABLE
TO GET OUT TO NEIGHBORHOODS
THAT ARE ISOLATED? YOU HAVE
TO PROVE TRULY PREPARED TO BE
ON YOUR OWN AND IN NEIGHBORHOOD
FOR 2 TO 3 DAYS IF NOT LONGER.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION,
I APPRECIATE THAT. WE TELL
PEOPLE THAT REALISTICALLY, YOU
COULD BE ON YOUR OWN FOR TWO
WEEKS. IT'S A LONG PERIOD OF
TIME HOWEVER, WE HAVE SOME
REALLY GREAT THINGS IN PLACE
THAT ARE REMAINING JUSTICE IN
SEATTLE. WE HAVE AN AUXILIARY
COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM. THEY
ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS, AND USED TO
BE AUXILIARY COMMUNICATION WAS
FOCUSED -- MOSTLY PEOPLE WHO
COULD DO HAM RADIOS WHO HAVE
RETIRED AND WERE NOT IN THE
BUSINESS ANYMORE. THE SEATTLE
AUXILIARY COMMUNICATION SERVICE
IS MADE UP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
BOTH RETIRED. THEY ARE STILL
WORKING FOR TECHNOLOGY
COMPANIES, THAT GIVES US
ACCESS TO THE MOST UP-TO-DATE
COMMUNICATION SERVICES. THEY
PROVIDE BACKUP COMMUNICATION
FOR CITY DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING
FIRE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. THEY
CAN PLACE REPEATERS IN
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY AND
THOSE MEMBERS ARE IN DIFFERENT
PARTS OF THE CITY, SO THEY CAN
STAND UP THOSE COMMUNICATION
TOWERS , HUBS IF YOU WILL.
PRETTY QUICKLY POST DISASTER
SO IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.
THAT WOULD GIVE US A BETTER
IDEA OF WHO IS MOST IMPACTED
AND WHO NEEDS HELP FIRST. IF
YOU IN PARTICULAR WOULD USE
THAT, YOU HAVE FIRE
DEPARTMENTS ALL OVER THE CITY.
WE GET TO PEOPLE SOONER DURING
THAT TWO WEEK WINDOW. IF YOU
ARE OKAY AND YOUR HOUSE IS IN
GOOD SHAPE AND YOU CAN SHELTER
IN PLACE, YOU KILL THOSE
COMMUNICATION DIRECTORS,
EITHER THE AUXILIARY SERVICE.
YOU GET AN ASSUMPTION OF THE
DAMAGE AND WHO CAN GET TO THOSE
PEOPLE MORE QUICKLY. THAT
SOUNDS LIKE -- THE RESILIENCE
HUBS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS
WE ARE DOING, WE THE CITY IN
CONCERT WITH COMMUNITY CAN HAVE
RESOURCES AND THINGS STORED IN
OTHER PLACES SO THAT PEOPLE
CAN GET WHAT THEY NEED. IT
>> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR MAYER.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC AS
WE SAW WITH KEY BRIDGE IN
BALTIMORE HARBOR, A BRIDGE I'VE
BEEN OVER MANY TIMES. THE I-35
BRIDGE IN MINNEAPOLIS. HAVE A
FRIEND WHO LIVES IN MAGNOLIA.
EVERY TIME, THERE IS CONCERN
WHEN SHE DRIVES OVER MAGNOLIA
BRIDGE WHICH HIGHLIGHTS THE
BEEN ONLY A BRIDGE ALONG WITH
THE OTHER BRIDGES ARE SO
IMPORTANT TO DISTRICT 7 BUT OUR
CITY OVERALL TO INCLUDE
DISTRICT ONE. THIS SHOWS HOW
IMPORTANT THIS WORK IS. THIS
SHOWS HOW IMPORTANT THIS
TIE-INS WITH THE SEATTLE
TRANSPORTATION PLAN. IN TERMS
OF PREPARING. IT'S IMPORTANT
TO THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT PUBLIC SAFETY ARE
CONSISTENT WITH THE SCHOOL
FLEETS THE SET OF
ORGANIZATIONS THAT FALL UNDER
OUR COMMITTEE TO HAVE IN FRONT
TO SHOW THE ORGANIZATION THEIR
GREAT WORK CHART FOR SOME OF
THE BUDGET ISSUES. A COMPLETE
THAT SAID BECAUSE I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO
GIVE ALL IDENTITIES. TO GIVE
THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO,
ON THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE
POINT OF BEING A PUBLIC SAFETY
ECOSYSTEM. OH WE HAVE MET ALL
NINE OF THEM SHOULD BE IN THE
PUBLIC SAFE THE VAN AS WE LOOK
TO DO BUDGET EXERCISES. WE
HAVE THE LAST MEETING WITH THE
COURT AND CITY ARE MURDERED --
BUT ALSO THE OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
PARTICULARLY WHEN GOOD THINGS
ARE -- FILLED BY GRANTS GIVEN
THE FACT THAT YOU BRING IN
THOSE GRANTS. THESE ARE THINGS
WE LOOK AT AS A COMMITTEE, I
SUSPECT WE WILL BE BACK WITH
YOU AT SOME POINT AS WE WORK TO
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
STRATEGIC PLAN AND SHIVA. WITH
THE VICE CHAIR AND DIED, TWO
BIG SOCCER BALL GUYS WILL BE
FOLLOWING MOVEMENTS TOWARDS
THE FIFA WORLD CUP. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
>> YOU'RE MOST WELCOME, I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND
INTEREST IN WHAT WE DO. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME, I
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. I
WILL SEE ALL OF YOU VERY SOON
FOR THE JOINT PROTOCOL DRILL
AND HOPEFULLY FOR THE TABLETOP
AS WELL. IQ FOR HAPPENING --
HAVING ME. -- THANK YOU. WE
WILL MOVE TO OUR SECOND ITEM OF
BUSINESS, PLEASE READ ITEM TWO
INTO THE RECORD. OFFICE OF
INSPECTOR GENERAL USE OF FORCE
ASSESSMENT BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION WITH INSPECTOR
GENERAL LISA JUDGE, AND
CHRISTINE BURRIS. SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT CHIEF, BRIAN MAXEY.
>> WELCOME BACK, INSPECTOR
GENERAL JUDGE AND THE TEAM
HERE. AS YOU KNOW WITH OUR
COMMUNITY, ACCOUNTABILITY IS A
CORNERSTONE OF OUR COMMUNITY
EFFORT . WHERE WE PARTNER WITH
OUR ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS TO
INCLUDE OAG , OPA AND CPC.
OBVIOUSLY, USE OF FORCE IS A
VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FROM OUR
COMMUNITY ASK PERSPECTIVE AND
A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE
WORK OF THE OIG AND WHAT IT
DOES. AS A QUICK PLUG, I
UNDERSTAND THAT OAG HAS
RECENTLY RECEIVED AN AWARD OR A
SHOUT OUT FOR AUDIT REPORT ON
SED YOUTH COUNCIL REQUIREMENTS,
THAT IS CONGRATULATIONS, THAT
HIGHLIGHTS HOW THE
ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS ARE
WORKING TOGETHER AND WORKING
WITH SPD, HOLLOW WITH THE
COMMUNITY COULD MOVE FORWARD
OF CONCERNS OF INTEREST. OVER
TO YOU FOR YOUR BRIEFING.
>> THANK YOU, MORNING, MADAME
PRESIDENT, AND MR. CHAIR,
IT'S A PRESIDENT TO BE WITH
YOU. WE HAVE A BIT OF A TEAM
EFFORT , I KNOW THE NAMES ARE
READ INTO THE RECORD, I'M LISA
JUDGE, I WILL LET MY TEAMMATES
HERE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES THEN
WE WILL GET STARTED.
>> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR
HAVING US, CHRISTINE BURRIS,
I'M THE INSPECTOR SUPERVISOR.
>> BRIAN MAXEY, CHIEF
OPERATING OFFICER, STILL THE
PEACE DEPARTMENT.
>> GOOD MORNING. I JUST WANT
TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT ABOUT
THIS REPORT. THIS IS OUR FIRST
SUBSTANTIVE PRODUCT IN THE
TRANSACTION OF OVERSIGHT FROM
THE FEDERAL COURT AND MONITOR
TO THE OIG, THIS IS THE POINT
AT WHICH WE AS A CITY AND THE
OFFICE OF AND ACTOR GENERAL
DEMONSTRATE WE HAVE THE
CAPABILITIES AND EXPERTISE, WE
HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO TAKE
OVER OVERSIGHT WITH OUR
FEDERAL PARTNERS AND HAVE A
ROBUST AND COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM
OF OVERSIGHT WITH THE CITY OF
SEATTLE. IN 2023, WE ABORTED A
TEAM THAT IS LARGELY CHARGED
WITH DOING ASSESSMENTS AND
MAKING SURE THAT THE GAINS THE
CIARDO PIZZA PLACE -- POLICE
DEPARTMENT HAVE MAINTAINED, WE
WORK TO INNOVATE AND PARTNER
JUST MOVING FORWARD. IN 2023,
WE FOUND A WORK PLAN AND
METHODOLOGIES WITH THE FEDERAL
COURT , ONE OF THE FIRST
PRODUCTS WE ARE REQUIRED TO
PRODUCE FOR THE FEDERAL COURT
WAS THIS REPORT ON USE OF
FORCE. WE ARE HERE TO TALK
THROUGH WITH YOU TODAY, I WILL
TURN IT OVER TO CHRISTINE WHO
WILL TALK THROUGH THE DATA
PIECE OF IT FIRST.
>> SO, BEFORE I GET INTO THE
DATA, I WANTED TO GIVE A
CONTINUATION OF WHAT INSPECTOR
JUDGE JUST SAID, THE FEDERAL
MONITORS SUBMITTED A
COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT IN
2022 IN THAT ASSESSMENT FOCUSED
AMONG OTHER THINGS ON USE OF
FORCE BETWEEN 2019 AND 2021,
OUR REPORT IS PROVIDING AN
UPDATE OF THAT ASSESSMENT AND
WE INCLUDED DATA AND
INFORMATION FROM 2021 TO
PROVIDE CONSISTENT AND
INABILITY TO COMPARE ALONG WITH
2022 AND 2023. IN ORDER TO
OFFER CONSISTENCY, THE
ASSESSMENT REPLICATES THE
MONITORS PREVIOUS QUANTITATIVE
USE ALSO INCLUDING ADDITIONAL
METHODS WE HAVE INCORPORATED
FOR OUTGOING OVERSIGHT AND
ENGAGEMENT WITH SPD. YOU WILL
SEE THE METHODOLOGY THAT WE
FOCUSED ON IN THIS REPORT AND
OUTLINING THE NEW METRICS WE
WILL ALSO BE USING FOR EMERGING
ISSUES. I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT TO FEAR IN THE THIRD
BULLET, WE ARE PROVIDING
ONGOING COLLABORATION WITH SPD,
WE COLLABORATED EXTENSIVELY
WITH THEM IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF
METHODOLOGIES AS WELL AS IN
ACTUAL COLLECTION OF DATA AND
OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE OTHER
ASPECTS OF THE REPORT AS WELL.
SO, ONE OF THE THINGS, IF YOU
THE THINGS WE WILL TALK ABOUT
IS THE USE OF FORCE DATA WHICH
I WILL GET INTO VERY QUICKLY
AND THEN I WILL WORK WE DID
REGARDING THE FORCE REVIEW
BOARD AND OUR OBSERVATIONS AND
ASSESSMENT OF THAT AS WELL AS
THE MANAGEMENT COMPONENT AND
HOW WELL GIVING AN UPDATE ON
SPD MANAGEMENT AS IT RELATES
TO FORCE AND YOU WILL SEE THE
ASSESSMENT GOALS THAT WE WILL
GET INTO RIGHT NOW. SO, IN
TERMS OF THE MAIN USE OF FORCE
DATA FINDINGS THAT YOU WILL
SEE ON THE SLIDE, I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT TO START BY PROVIDING
DEFINITIONS FROM TERMS THAT
ARE NOT ONLY IN THE REPORT BUT
IN THE PRESENTATION WE ARE
GIVING. I WILL NOTE THAT THE
DEFINITIONS AND EXAMPLES COME
DIRECTLY FROM POLICY. STARTING
OFF, USE OF FORCE REFERRING TO
PHYSICAL FORCE WHICH IS ANY ACT
REASONABLY LIKELY TO CAUSE
PHYSICAL PAIN OR INJURY, AND
ANY OTHER ACT EXERTED UPON A
PERSON'S BODY TO COMPEL,
CONSTRAIN, OR RESTRAIN
MOVEMENT, PHYSICAL FORCE DOES
NOT INCLUDE PATDOWNS,
INCIDENTAL TOUCHING, COMMANDS
OR HANDCUFFING WHERE THERE IS
NO PHYSICAL INJURY. YOU WILL
HEAR US USE THE TERM TYPE ONE,
TYPE TWO, TYPE THREE USES OF
FORCE SO I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANTLY WHAT THOSE MEAN,
TYPE ONE IS FORCE THAT CAUSES
TRANSITORY PAIN OR THE
COMPLAINT OF TRANSITORY PAIN
THAT ALSO INCLUDES POINTING A
FIREARM AT A SUBJECT , TYPE TWO
FORCES FORCE THAT CAUSES OR IS
REASONABLY EXPECTED TO CAUSE
PHYSICAL INJURY GREATER THAN
TRANSITORY PAIN BUT LESS THAN
GREAT OR SUBSTANTIAL BODILY
HARM, USE OF THE TASER OR OC
SPRAY IS CONSIDERED A TYPE TWO
USE OF FORCE, OTHER EXAMPLES
ARE ABRASIONS, BRUISING,
LACERATION. TYPE THREE FORCES
FORCE THAT CAUSES OR IS
REASONABLY EXPECTED TO CAUSE
GREAT BODILY HARM, SUBSTANTIAL
HARM , LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS
AND DEATH, DISCHARGING A
FIREARM AT A PERSON AND DEADLY
FORCE ARE INCLUDED . EXAMPLES
INCLUDE OFFICER INVOLVED
SHOOTINGS, BROKEN BONES, AND
INCIDENTS WHERE THE SUBJECT IS
ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL AS A
RESULT OF FORCE. ANOTHER
IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW IS HOW
SPD RECORDS AND CALCULATES
FORCE DATA FOR SITUATIONS WHERE
THERE ARE MULTIPLE ALL
INVOLVED OFFICERS AND
APPLICATIONS OF FORCE, MULTIPLE
SUBJECTS. SPD COUNTS FOR TWO
-- BASED ON THE USE OF FORCE
REPORTS WITH EACH USE OF FORCE
CONSTITUTING A COMBINATION OF
UNIQUE OFFICER , UNIQUE SUBJECT
AND UNIQUE INCIDENT. I THINK IT
IS HELPFUL TO HAVE AN EXAMPLE
TO CONCEPTUALIZE THAT BIG OF
THREE OFFICERS USE VARYING
APPLICATIONS OF FORCE AGAINST
ONE SINGLE SUBJECT, DURING ONE
SINGLE EVENT, THAT CAN COUNT
IS AT LEAST THREE USES OF
FORCE, ONE PER OFFICER
REPORTED. THIS WILL COME UP
AGAIN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS.
JUST TO HIGHLIGHT AND FLIP UP
THE SIDE, SOME MAIN FINDINGS
AND OVERALL USE OF FORCE HAS
DECREASED DURING THE REPORTING
PERIOD OF 2021 THROUGH 2023.
THE THREE YEARS INCLUDED IN OUR
REPORT HAVE HAD THE LOWEST
RECORDS IN THE USE OF FORCE
SINCE CONSISTENT DATA
COLLECTION BEGAN IN 2015. THIS
IS ESPECIALLY TRUE FOR TYPE
THREE OFFICER INVOLVED
SHOOTING WERE THERE ONLY TWO
AND 2023, AND 2022 AND 2023,
THERE WERE NO TYPE THREE AND NO
TYPE THREE OFFICER INVOLVED
SHOOTINGS WITH USE OF FORCE FOR
SUBJECT IN CRISIS, SINCE THE
CONSISTENT DATA HAS BEGAN IN
2015, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME
THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY TYPE
THREE USES OF FORCE. SO, HERE
THIS FIGURE IS SHOWING A
BREAKDOWN OF USE OF FORCE FOR
EACH YEAR , 2022 THROUGH --
2021 THROUGH 2023 WHILE THERE
IS AN INCREASE IN THE USE OF
WORSE BETWEEN 2021 AND 2023,
THIS IS MOSTLY DUE TO A STEADY
INCREASE IN THE COUNT AND
PERCENTAGE OF INCIDENTS
INVOLVING TYPE ONE FORCE, AS
YOU RECALL FROM EARLIER, THIS
IS THE LOWEST LEVEL OF
REPORTABLE FORCE, 2021 HAD THE
LOWEST RECORD OF USES OF FORCE
, 1116 SINCE 2015 AND IN 2022
AND 2023, THEY WERE THE SECOND
AND THIRD LOWEST USES OF FORCE
RESPECTIVELY. 2021 HAD THE
LOWEST USES OF FORCE FOR TYPE
ONE AND TYPE TWO, THEN AGAIN IN
2023, THERE WAS THE LOWEST USE
OF FORCE SINCE 2015 WHEN
CONSISTENT DATA COLLECTION
BEGAN. SO, YOU WILL REMEMBER
THE WAY THE SPD COUNTS FOR
STATISTICS BASED ON INDIVIDUAL
REPORTS AS I MENTIONED, THIS
IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT
LOOKING AT OFFICER INVOLVED
SHOOTING REPORTS FOR EXAMPLE,
IF TWO OFFICERS USE FORCE
AGAINST ONE SINGLE SUBJECT IN
AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING,
THE COUNT WOULD BE TWO DESPITE
THERE ONLY BEING ONE SUBJECT.
THE BECAUSE OIG SEES THE VALUE
ON THESE COUNTING METHODS, WE
FOUND IT NECESSARY TO INCLUDE
THE FORCE -- USE OF FORCE
COUNTS BY SUBJECT IN OUR
REPORT AND ON THE SLIDE, THAT
IS EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENT
COUNTS THAT YOU SEE FOR TYPE
THREE OFFICER INVOLVED
SHOOTINGS, ONE IS FOR INCIDENT
AND ONE IS SUBJECTS . THIS
DISTINCTION --
>> I WANTED TO CHIME IN, THIS
CAN BE CONFUSING FOR COMMUNITY
MEMBERS LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE
I THINK IN LAY TERMS YOU THINK
OF AN INCIDENT AS ONE THING, IT
COUNTS INCIDENTS BY SPECIFIC
OFFICER USES A FORCE . ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING
WITH THEM AND RECOMMENDING IS
THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR
WEBSITE AVAILABLE FOR THE
AVERAGE COMMUNITY PERSON WHO
WANTS TO GO LOOK ESPECIALLY
SEEING HOW MANY OFFICER
INVOLVED SHOOTINGS HAVE
OCCURRED IN A GIVEN YEAR THAT
THIS IS PUT IN COMMON LAY
PARLANCE SO THAT FOLKS LOOKING
FOR A SPECIFIC INCIDENT OR
OCCURRENCE OR SOMETHING WILL BE
ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT, I THINK
THE TERMINOLOGY IS A BIT
CONFUSING TO THE LAYPERSON.
>> THANK YOU, AND THE OTHER
MATTER WE SUGGESTED IS TO
INCLUDE WHETHER THE SHOOTING
RESULTED IN FATALITY, AGAIN
JUST PROVIDING MORE
TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY FOR
PEOPLE REVIEWING THIS
INFORMATION. THIS FIGURE SHOWS
THE USE OF FORCE WITH INJURY
OR COMPLAINT OF PAIN BY A
SUBJECTS RACE . DURING THE
REPORTING PERIOD, A HIGHER
PERCENTAGE OF WHITE SUBJECTS
WERE REPORTEDLY INJURED OR
COMPLAINED OF PAIN DURING A
FORCE ENCOUNTER FOLLOWED BY
BLACK SUBJECTS. FOR WHITE,
NATIVE AMERICAN, AND OTHER
PACIFIC ISLANDER AS WELL AS TWO
OTHER RACES, THERE WAS A
REDUCE. FOR BLACK SUBJECTS,
THERE WAS AN INCREASE OVER THE
REPORTING PERIOD IN BETWEEN
2021 AND 2023, INDIVIDUALS WITH
REPORTED UNKNOWN RACE HAD THE
THIRD HIGHEST RATE OF INJURY OR
COMPLAINTS OF PAIN AND THE RATE
INCREASE OVER THE PERIOD. THIS
FIGURE VISUALIZES CHANGES
BETWEEN 2021 AND 2023,
INTERRACIAL CLASSIFICATIONS OF
USE OF FORCE FOR TYPE ONE AND
TYPE TWO COMBINED . ACCOUNTS
FOR TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO
REMAINED STEADY FOR FORCE
AGAINST WHITE AND ASIAN
POPULATIONS WHILE CALCULATIONS
-- COUNTS AND PERCENTAGES WERE
FORCE AGAINST BLACK, HISPANIC,
LATINO, AND OTHER MINORITIES
INCREASED. THIS SLIDE SHOWS
POINTING OF A FIREARM
CATEGORIZED BY A SUBJECTS RACE,
POINTING A FIREARM HAS REDUCED
BETWEEN 2021 AND 2023 AS WELL
AS THE COURSE OF THE CONSENT
AGREEMENT. BLACK SUBJECTS ARE
STILL MOST LIKELY TO BE
SUBJECT TO POINTING OF A
FIREARM TO ASSIST DESPITE
BEING THE SUBJECT OF FORCE
LESS FREQUENTLY AS WHITE
SUBJECTS. IN 2021, THE FOURTH
SUBJECTS WERE REPORTED AS
UNKNOWN RACE, 11.48%. THIS DID
INCREASE IN 2023 TO 28 --
.28%.
>> I WANT TO ADD IN, I'M NOT
SURE IF YOU WANT TO ADD
ANYTHING HERE OR IF YOU WANT TO
WAIT UNTIL DISCUSSION. YOU WILL
RECALL CHRISTINE WAS TALKING
ABOUT THE FRAMEWORK AND
METHODOLOGY FOR THIS PARTICULAR
REPORT SOUGHT TO REPLICATE
METHODOLOGIES USED BY PREVIOUS
MONITORING TEAMS THROUGHOUT
THE COURSE OF THE CONSENT
DECREE, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO
REPLICATE WHAT THEY DID BUT WE
ALSO BELIEVE THERE ARE
ADDITIONAL METRICS THAT WILL
GIVE US GREATER INSIGHT INTO
WHAT IS ACTUALLY OCCURRING
HERE, WHAT IF ANY ISSUES EXIST
IN THAT LIGHT AND GIVE US A
BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE NEED TO
ADDRESS, I THINK WHAT YOU SEE
HERE IS THE SAME WAY OF LOOKING
AT THIS PROBLEM WITH AN OVERLAY
OF DEMOGRAPHICS THAT HAS BEEN
HISTORIC USED NOT NECESSARILY
THE MOST NUANCED OR I THINK
THE MOST INSTRUCTIVE WAY TO
LOOK AT IT. FUTURE WORK WITH
OIG WOULD BE TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT CREATES A CLEARER,
MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF THIS
DATA AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR
US.
>> I WILL JUMP IN BRIEFLY ON
THIS TOPIC, I KNOW WE ARE
SEEING ARTICLES COMING OUT IN
THE MEDIA TODAY ATTEMPTING TO
INTERPRET THIS, I THINK ONE
TAKE AWAY OUR HOPE THAT THE
COMMITTEE IS REALLY RECOGNIZING
IS THE SOPHISTICATION OF THE
OIG ANALYSIS, WE WORK
COLLABORATIVELY AND THEY TOOK
THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND OUR
DATA, THEY DUG VERY DEEPLY INTO
IT WHEN WE FIND THE SPD AND
OIG DO NOT AGREE ON NUMBERS,
WE HASHED THROUGH THAT AND
FIGURE OUT WHY, USUALLY THERE
IS A MYTHOLOGICAL QUESTION OR
AS CHRISTINE WAS DESCRIBING,
HOW DO WE ACTUALLY COUNT USE OF
FORCE , FROM THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT PERSPECTIVE, WE DO
IT PRIMARILY FOR ACCOUNTABILITY
PURPOSES, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT
EVERY OFFICER IS DOING, EVERY
USE OF FORCE THAT IS BEHIND
THIS DATA WAS REVIEWED BY A
SUPERVISOR THEN LED BY THE
FORCE REVIEW UNIT THEN BY
SEVERITY GO TO THE FORCE REVIEW
BOARD FOR MUCH GREATER AND
SUBSTANTIVE UNDERSTANDING OF
WHETHER THIS WAS IN OUR POLICY
OR NOT, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING
WHAT'S TYPICALLY REFERRED TO
AS THE DISPROPORTIONALITY
ANALYSIS OF RACIAL
MANIFESTATION IN OUR DATA, THE
IDEA THAT WE WOULD SIMPLY TAKE
OFFICER ACTIVITY AND THROW THIS
OVER POPULATION DEMOGRAPHICS
BASED ON CENSUS INFORMATION, IT
ASSUMES THAT ALL PEOPLE ARE
VERY STRICT IN THEIR CRIMINAL
ACTIVITIES TO ADHERE TO QUOTAS
WE WANT THEM TO ADHERE TO AND
THEY RESPECT TRADITIONAL
BOUNDARIES. WE KNOW THAT'S NOT
TRUE, WHEN A RATE CHANGES, WE
WATCH THAT CAREFULLY BUT THAT
DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT
RATE IS DRIVEN BY EITHER THE
PERCEPTIONS OF POLICE
OFFICERS, BY ANYTHING THAT
APARTMENT IS DOING IN TERMS OF
DEPLOYMENT STRATEGIES. WE HAVE
TO DIG DEEPER . AS INSPECTOR
GENERAL JUDGE SAID, WE ARE
WORKING HARD TO COME UP WITH
BETTER, MORE NUANCED , MORE
TARGETED METHODOLOGIES.
CHANGES IN RATE DO NOT TELL US
WHAT TO LEAN INTO, HOW DO WE
FIX THIS AS MANAGEMENT IF
THERE'S ANYTHING TO BE FIXED,
IF THERE IS SOMETHING SURFACING
IN OUR INTERACTIONS WITH THE
ENVIRONMENT? WE WILL TALK
MORE ABOUT THIS BUT WE ARE
HAPPY TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS
ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY.
>> OUR LAST SLIDE THAT FOCUSES
ON THE DATA COMPONENT , THE
TYPE OF FORCE THAT'S USED IN
INDIVIDUALS ON A BEHAVIORAL
CRISIS. THIS IS CREATED BY A
TYPE OF FORCE USED, CONTACTS
WITH FORCE WAS USED, THE LOWEST
PERCENTAGE OF TYPE TWO FORCE
AND BEHAVIORAL CRISIS WAS
REPORTED IN 2021, HE'S IN
2022 AND 2023. THERE'S
INCIDENTS SINCE DATA
COLLECTION BEGAN IN 2015.
>> WE WILL TRANSITION TO THE
SECOND PART OF THE REPORT WHICH
FOCUSES ON QUALITATIVE ANALYSIS
OF THE FORCE REVIEW BOARD . THE
FORCE REVIEW PORT AS PART OF A
COMPREHENSIVE SET OF PROGRAMS
THAT SPD HAS TO INVESTIGATE AND
REVIEW USES OF FORCE ,
SIGNIFICANT USES OF FORCE . YOU
KEEP HEARING THE DATE SINCE
2015 FLOATING AROUND QUITE A
BIT TODAY, I THINK MR. MAXEY,
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THAT
IS WHEN THE REFORMS THAT SPD
HAD IMPLEMENTED UNDER YOUR
CONSENT TO THREE -- DECREE IN
2012 TOOK HOLD, THAT'S WHEN
THEY STARTED MUCH MORE ROBUST
COLLECTION OF FORCE DATA, THERE
FORCE INVESTIGATION UNIT AND
FORCE REVIEW BOARD. THE FORCE
REVIEW BOARD NOW LOOKS AT ALL
TYPE THREE USES OF FORCE AND
THEY DO A VERY COMPREHENSIVE
WRITE-DOWN AND DISCUSSION OF A
VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WOULD
IMPACT THE LEGITIMACY OF THAT
FORCE , THE DECISION-MAKING
SOUND, THE TACTIC SOUND, WAS
TRAINING APPROPRIATE ? IT'S A
VERY COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS,
WHAT WE LOOKED AT MAINLY WAS
HOW FACILITATION OCCURRED
WHETHER IT WAS APPROPRIATE
COMPREHENSIVE. HOW THAT'S
PRESENTED, THE ROBUSTNESS OF
DISCUSSION OR PROCESSES, WE
CAN REALLY TALK ABOUT IT, I
WANT TO SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN
A NATIONAL MODEL FOR QUITE SOME
TIME WHEN I WAS GENERAL
COUNCIL FOR THE TUCSON POLICE
DEPARTMENT IN 2017. WE MET
WITH AND TALKED WITH EVERYBODY
INVOLVED IN SEATTLE'S PROCESS.
WATCH THE FORCE REVIEW BOARD
AND THEN TOOK LESSONS FROM THAT
BACK TO THE TUCSON POLICE
DEPARTMENT WHERE WE BUILT THOSE
EVENTUALLY CRITICAL INCIDENT
REVIEW BOARD, THEY HAVE BEEN
DOING GOOD WORK IN THIS AREA
FOR A LONG TIME. CHRISTINE, DO
YOU WANT TO WALK THROUGH THE
REPORT XE OUR OFFICE GETS THE
REVIEW BOARD MEETINGS, AT LEAST
WEEKLY SOMETIMES TWICE A WEEK .
SOMETIMES THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
JUDGE IS THERE AS WELL AS A
COUPLE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS. WE
SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME
OBSERVING HOW THE MEETINGS ARE
GOING, AS WELL AS THE INTERVIEW
TO THE MEMBERS FROM THE BOARD
AS WELL AS OTHER STATE IS
WITHIN SPD. THIS WAS A NEWER
COMPONENT OF THE REPORT THAT
DID NOT MIRROR AT LEAST WHAT
THE MONITOR , FEDERAL MONITOR
HAD DONE PREVIOUSLY. OVERALL,
WE DID FIND THAT THE BOARD DOES
A GREAT JOB OF REVIEWING THESE
FORCE INCIDENTS AND I THINK A
LOT OF OUR FEEDBACK WERE
FINE-TUNING IN AREAS WHERE YOU
ARE BASED ON OBSERVATIONS. THE
BOARD FACILITATES THESE, WE
HAVE NOTED THE BENEFIT OF NOT
ASKING LEADING QUESTIONS. OF
NOT PRESENTING THEIR OPINION
OF LETTING THE BOARD SPEAK
ABOUT IT AND LETTING THEM SEE
HOW ROBUST THOSE CONVERSATIONS
ARE AS WELL AS PRESENTING A
CASE IN A WAY THAT'S DETAILED
AND THOROUGH SO THE BOARD
MEMBERS CAN DISCUSS IT IN A
MEANINGFUL WAY. SOME OF THE
AREAS WE FOCUSED ON WERE
DE-ESCALATION AND HOW AND
WHETHER OFFICERS WERE DOING
THAT AS WELL AS PARTICULARLY
IN CRISIS SITUATIONS. WE HAVE
HAD ONGOING COMMUNICATION WITH
THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF THE
BUREAU AS WELL AS CHAIRS THAT
SHARE THE CONVERSATIONS, THAT
WAS SOMETHING WE ADDED WHERE WE
MEET RIGHT AFTER OR THE NEXT
DAY AND GIVE THAT FEEDBACK IN
REAL TIME SO WE ARE NOT
SITTING ON INFORMATION AND
SUGGESTIONS FOR MONTHS AT A
TIME. THAT HAS BEEN REALLY
USEFUL. A LOT OF THE THINGS
THAT WE SAW, WE ALSO HEARD FROM
THE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS.
THE ONE THING THAT I THINK IS
IMPORTANT, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK
WE GAVE BOTH IN REAL TIME AND
ON OUR REPORT WERE ALREADY
SEEN SPD BE RESPONSIVE TO THOSE
IN THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS, I
THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO
HIGHLIGHT HOW THE
COMMUNICATION AND ONGOING
COLLABORATION CAN BE SEEN IN
OUTCOMES ALREADY.
>> I WILL JUST HIGHLIGHT ONE OF
THE ISSUES THAT HAS BEEN
HISTORICALLY DIFFICULT FOR THE
BOARD TO TEASE OUT AND DISCUSS
HIS DE-ESCALATION BECAUSE IT
SOMETIMES CROSSES OVER INTO IS
IT A TACTIC OR SOMETHING
DIFFERENT THAN A TACTIC, IS IT
A STAND-ALONE CONCEPT , I THINK
WE HAVE BEEN SORT OF
ENVISIONING THE DIFFERENT
FRAMEWORK TO BREAK DOWN
DE-ESCALATION AND TALK ABOUT IT
. IT SEEMS TO BE A FRUITFUL
PATH FOR THE FRB TO REALLY
TALK ABOUT DE-ESCALATION, WHAT
IT IS, DID IT WORK IF NOT, WHY
NOT. IF IT DID, WHAT LESSONS
DID WE LEARN ? THAT IS JUST ONE
EXAMPLE OF HOW THOSE
CONVERSATIONS AND -- FEEDBACK
ARE HAVING A REAL IMPACT ON THE
BOARDS DISCUSSIONS. THE LAST
PIECE OF THE REPORT WAS A BIT
ON CROWD MANAGEMENT BECAUSE
THERE REMAINS AN ISSUE OF
CONCERN FOR THE JUDGE UNDER THE
CONSENT DECREE, EYEWALL TALK
ABOUT THE YEARS LONG WORK WE
DID IN THE CENTER OF ALL EVENT
REVIEW PROCESS WITH COMMITTEE
MEMBERS AND SPD PERSONS , WE
ISSUED 140 RECOMMENDATIONS OVER
THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS AND
FOUR REPORTS, MOST OF THOSE
HAVE BEEN NEITHER ACCEPTED AND
IMPLEMENTED OR ARE IN PROCESS
RIGHT NOW, THAT PARTICULAR
EFFORT HAD A LARGE IMPACT I
THINK ON SPD'S RESPONSES TO
PEOPLE ENGAGING IN FIRST
AMENDMENT ACTIVITY. CHRISTINE
WILL TALK ABOUT THE PARTICULARS
HERE AND THEN I WOULD ASK MR.
MAXEY TO TALK ABOUT WORK WE
HAVE BEEN DOING WITH SPD AROUND
WHAT TO WE DO IF WE GET IN THE
SITUATION WHERE THERE ARE MASS.
USES OF FORCE, THE SYSTEM, BOTH
SPD SYSTEM AND OVERSIGHT
SYSTEMS ARE OVERWHELMED WITH
THE NUMBERS OF USES OF FORCE,
HOW DO WE GET THOSE ARE --
APPROPRIATELY REPORTED, WHO WAS
LOOKING AT THEM, HOW ARE THEY
BEING INVESTIGATED, HOW ARE
THEY BEING REVIEWED? THAT
WOULD BE SOMETHING HE TALKS
ABOUT.
>> YEAH, I THINK SOMETHING TO
ALSOFORMAL RESPONSE TO THE
RECOMMENDATIONS IN JULY OF
2023, IF THAT IS SOMETHING
PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN
REVIEWING. THE ISSUES OF
COMMUNICATION, COMMUNITY,
LEGITIMACY ARE I THINK THE
NEXT AREAS WE LOOK AT HERE.
HOW ARE 80 -- L RAD IS A
SPEAKER, POET WAS INITIATED
IN 2020 BASED ON PRINCIPLES OF
CROWD PSYCHOLOGY AND COMMUNITY
BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER CROWD
EVENTS. POET OFFICERS WEAR
SPECIAL MORE DRESSED DOWN
UNIFORMS AND ARE STATIONED
AMONG PROTESTERS TO FACILITATE
COMMUNICATION BETWEEN
ORGANIZERS AND MEMBERS ,
OPERATIONAL COMMANDERS AND
FRONT-LINE OFFICERS. WITH
COMMUNITY LEGITIMACY, THE
OUTWARD MIND-SET TEACHES TO
EMPLOY TACTICS THAT SUPPORT
MORE EQUITABLE INTERACTIONS.
BEFORE THE BADGE BEGAN --
2022? SORRY, 2022, COMMUNITY
CENTER DIALOGUE AS LEARNING
MODULE PLACED ON -- BASED ON
TEACHING, TEACHING RECRUITS TO
PRIORITIZE TRANSPARENCY,
HONESTY, AND TRUST. BUILDING
INTERACTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY
AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY MODULE
PROVIDES OFFICER BASIC
UNDERSTANDING OF THE ROLE OF
POLICING COMMUNITY AND THE
COMMUNITY CENTRIC MODEL FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY.
>> MR. MAXEY, WOULD YOU ADD
ANYTHING?
>> JUST ADDRESSING THE ISSUE
THAT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED BY THE
FEDERAL COURT AND THE
MONITORING TEAM AROUND USE OF
FORCE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS
DURING LONG SUSTAINED CROWD
MANAGEMENT EVENTS, CERTAINLY AS
WE SAW IN 2020 DESPITE BEST
EFFORTS WHEN YOU KEEP OFFICERS
FOR 100 DAYS ON THE LINE
WORKING 16 HOURS A DAY, DOES
NOT LEAVE A LOT OF TIME TO DO
PAPERWORK WITH BY POLICY. WE
ENDED UP WITH A BEST EFFORTS
APPROACH WITH THAT WITH
COORDINATION AND OIG AND OPA ON
HOW TO GATHER THE INFORMATION.
THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK TO
RE-CREATE THIS AFTER THE FACT,
IT WAS EXACERBATED BY THE FACT
THAT AT THAT TIME, WE DID NOT
HAVE BODY WORN CAMERAS DURING
CROWD MANAGEMENT EVENTS. THAT
WAS SOMETHING DEVELOPED OUT OF
THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHEN
WE ORIGINALLY I DEVELOPED OUR
BODY WORN CAMERA PROGRAM . I
KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF
HISTORICAL INFORMATION THAT
SORT OF GETS LOST IN THE MIX
WHEN WE TRY TO CREATE BODY WORN
CAMERAS, THERE WAS STRONG
OPPOSITION AND IT WAS LED BY
THE COMMUNITY POLICE
COMMISSION, THEY DID NOT WANT
US TO HAVE BODY WORN CAMERAS.
THAT WAS NOT AN OPTION, WE HAD
TO HAVE THEM AND SO WE SPENT
MANY MONTHS ENGAGING WITH A
WIDE VARIETY OF COMMUNITY
GROUPS TO FIND OUT WHAT THE
CONCERNS WERE. THEY SURFACED
IN AREAS YOU WOULD EXPECT IN
TERMS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS, IN
TERMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
INCIDENTS , IN TERMS OF
RELIGIOUS IN-HOME CONCERNS AND
ONE OF THEM WAS AROUND CROWD
MANAGEMENT AT THAT TIME, OUR
POLICIES AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE
CAMERAS ON. THAT GOT REVERSED
DURING 2020 BECAUSE OF THE
CRITICAL AND SUSTAINED NATURE
OF THOSE DEMONSTRATIONS. WE
WERE ORDERED THROUGH EXECUTIVE
ORDER TO TURN THEM ON AND HAVE
THEM ON. THAT LED TO BETTER
REPORTING AND THE ABILITY TO
RE-CREATE THESE AFTER-THE-FACT,
WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH OUR
POLICY IS PUTTING , WE ARE
GOING TO EMBED SOMEONE FROM THE
FORCE INVESTIGATIONS TEAM, AND
ADMINISTRATION LIEUTENANT WHO
KEEPS A FORCE LOG RIGHT UP
AGAINST THE ONGOING LOGS ARE
READY KEPT BY THE SEATTLE
POLICE OPERATIONS CENTER, THIS
ALLOWS US TO REFERENCE BODY
WORN CAMERA FROM CERTAIN TIME
PERIODS, FIGURE OUT WHAT
HAPPENED DOWN WHEN, THEN WE
CONTINUE TO REQUIRE INCIDENT
COMMANDERS IF THEY ORDER
FORCE, THEY ARE PRIMARILY
DOCUMENTED. IF OFFICERS HAVE
INDIVIDUAL USES A FORCE NOT
ORDERED BUT WAS SIMPLY -- CAME
OUT OF THE MOMENT. THEY LOOK
THEIR BEST TO RECORD THAT . WE
HAVE BEEN WORKING IN TRAINING
TO HAVE OFFICERS DICTATE WHAT
IS HAPPENING AND WHY THEY ARE
DOING IT ON BODY WORN CAMERA IN
REAL TIME. THAT THE FASTEST AND
EASIEST WAY TO CAPTURE THAT
INFORMATION AND THE REASONS
BEHIND THE USE OF FORCE WHICH
IS ALWAYS AFTER A LONG, CHAOTIC
SHIFT CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT TO
FIGURE OUT . THE LAST THING I
WOULD SAY IN THE SPACE IS I
THINK IT IS VERY NOTABLE THAT
SPD FITTED -- PIVOTED AND THEY
INVALIDATED A LOT OF CHANGES.
WE WORKED WITH OIG TO GET
TRAINING, OFF AND OUT OF
EUROPE OUT OF THEIR CROWD
MANAGEMENT TACTICS . BETWEEN
THE FALL OF 2020 IN THE
PRESENT, WE ONLY HAD ONE USE OF
FORCE THAT I'M AWARE OF IN ANY
CROWD MANAGEMENT CONTEXT. THAT
INCLUDES SOME PRETTY VOLATILE
DEMONSTRATIONS THAT ARE
OCCURRING AROUND UKRAINE AND
RUSSIA AROUND ISRAEL AND
PALESTINE, AROUND THE DOBBS
DECISION WHEN THAT CAME DOWN
AROUND ABORTION . THESE ARE
IMPORTANT, CRITICAL OF EVENTS
AND PEOPLE ARE SUPPRESSING
THEIR VIEWPOINTS ON THAT.
SOMETIMES IN A PROFOUND,
PHYSICAL WAY. WE HAVE REALLY
DEEMPHASIZED THE USE OF FORCE
AND CROWD MANAGEMENT, WE GOT
AWAY FROM A LOT OF THE THEN
BEST PRACTICES THAT LED US INTO
2020 AND WE HAVE LED THE WAY IN
REFINING OUR POINT -- A PUSH OF
THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THAT CONCLUDES THE
PRESENTATION, THANK YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT, OBVIOUSLY
A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT --
TOPIC. I'M LOOKING UP AND DOWN
THE LINE ON THE DAIS, VICE
CHAIR?
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
BUT I WANT TO YIELD TO OUR
COLLEAGUES HERE TO -- FIRST .
>> IN THIS CASE, I WILL START
THIS TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT IS INTERESTING TO ME,
FIRST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THE REPORT, I THINK IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT IN PARTICULAR TO HAVE
OIG AND SPG, SPEAKING TO THE
BRIEF WHICH ALSO HIGHLIGHTS BY
THE WAY THE INTERACTION, THE
WORK THAT YOU WERE DOING
TOGETHER WHICH IS ALSO VERY
IMPORTANT TO NOTE, THANK YOU
FOR THAT, I SHOULD ADD THE
OTHER ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS,
OPA AND CPC AS WELL. ONE THING
-- I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK OFF
THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT BRIEFING AND THEIR
EFFORTS, WHEN THEY WERE TALKING
ABOUT COMMUNITY SAFETY
AMBASSADORS. PUBLIC EDUCATION I
THINK IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC
AND BEFORE THE BADGE IS AWAY
FOR EXAMPLE -- INBOUND OFFICERS
TO WORK ON THEIR COMMUNITY. IS
THERE A WAY TO USE THE BADGE
OR SOME VERSION OF COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND BEST SETTERS , THE
PERFECT CRIME PREVENTION
PROGRAM TO EDUCATE FROM A
PUBLIC EDUCATION POINT OF VIEW
THE -- USE OF FORCE PIECES
LIKE LEVEL ONE, TWO, THREE. IF
AN OFFICER IN THE SITUATION,
LIKELIHOOD OF TYPE ONE OR TWO,
OR THREE TO KIND OF HAVE THE
BASELINE OF KNOWLEDGE
THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING AND
MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD ADJUST OR
ENGAGE IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO
AVOID OBVIOUSLY , TWO OR
PARTICULARLY THREE. I WAS
CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANYTHING
FROM A PUBLIC EDUCATION POINT
OF VIEW RELATED TO PUBLIC USE
OF FORCE. HIGHLIGHTING THE
POINT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION --
TRANSPORTATION AND CLARITY. I
THINK THAT COULD BE -- BUT WE
CAN PURSUE TO TO REDUCE THE
NUMBERS EVEN MORE, I WAS
CURIOUS ON YOUR REACTION.
>> I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF
FACETS TO THAT QUESTION IN THE
COMMENTS YOU HAVE. ONE ASPECT
OF OIG WORK IS THAT WHENEVER WE
UNDERTAKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
WE ALSO TRY TO EXPLAIN THE
UNIVERSE IN WHICH THIS IS
OCCURRING SO IN THE USE OF
FORCE TO PORT, THERE IS A MAP
OF -- USE OF FORCE , FROM THE
FORCE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE
INVESTIGATION AND REVIEW
PROCESS THROUGH THE POTENTIAL
ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT,
THERE IS A SUBWAY MAP, I THINK
ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO
WAS BREAK THAT DOWN. WE HAVE A
NEW COMMS PERSON AND ENGAGEMENT
PERSON, WE WILL WORK ON
CREATING VIDEOS AND SHORT WAYS
TO PUT SNIPPETS ON HER WEBSITE
SO THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LEARN
ABOUT THIS, THEY CAN GO THERE
AND WE ARE WORKING TO FIGURE
OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT MORE
WIDESPREAD. I THINK THE OTHER
THING I WANT TO SAY BEFORE I
TURN IT OVER TO CHRISTINE AND
BRIAN, AS FIFA APPROACHES, IT
WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE
CITY TO COME UP WITH STRATEGIES
AROUND TRANSPORTATION AND
KEEPING SOCCER TEAMS THAT HAVE
HISTORICAL CONFLICT , WE KEEP
IT APART GIVING THEM PART --
SEPARATE EGRESS AND INGRESS
ROUTES, THIS IS WORK WE HAVE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND DOING
WITH SOME FOLKS RYAN MENTIONED
FROM CURO, -- EUROPE, A
EXPERT AND CROWD PSYCHOLOGY IN
THE WORLD OF SOCCER AND
FOOTBALL AS THEY CALL IT THERE.
THOSE ARE TWO ASPECTS THAT
OCCUR TO ME.
>> CHAIR, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO
ENGAGE IN INTELLECTUALLY HONEST
CONVERSATIONS IN THE SPACE
THAT HAVE PROVEN DIFFICULT,
WITH THE ASSISTANT OF OIG
THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY
TO LEAN IN AND DO THAT
EDUCATION CASE . WE ALSO JUST
RESTARTED OUR COMMUNITY POLICE
ACADEMY WHICH ACTUALLY IS FULL
, I'M PLEASED TO SAY SO THIS
IS A FIVE WEEK COURSE WILL BE
BREAKDOWN FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS
INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT
WHAT WE DO AND WHY AND BRING
THEM IN TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO TALK TO SOME OF THESE
THINGS. ABSOLUTELY WE WOULD
LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, I
THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
MISCONCEPTIONS AND A LOT OF
STRONGLY HELD BELIEFS. IF WE
CAN TALK THROUGH SOME OF THIS,
WE WILL, STRONGER FOR IT.
>> TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IT IS
WELL WORTH THE INVESTMENT IN
THE PUBLIC EDUCATION PIECE,
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT
ANGLES TO THIS. THE PLUS ON
THE BACKSIDE OF THAT EFFORT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY..
PARTICULARLY BY THE -- THE
IMPORTANCE WE SEE THAT.
KICKING OFF QUESTIONS, WE WILL
TURN IT TO COUNCILMEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> THANK YOU FOR THIS
PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT JUMPS OUT TO ME, I
WOULD LOVE FOR SPD -- I'M
GLAD THAT COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE
BROUGHT THAT UP. THE EDUCATION
PIECE, THE ONE THING THAT
STANDS OUT IS THE
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT OF
BLACKS WITH THE USE OF FORCE OR
INJURY , LETHAL FORCE. ALL
THOSE PIECES AND WONDERING ,
SPECIFICALLY TALKING SPD IN
REGARDS TO WHAT PROGRAMS ARE
BEING UTILIZED TO CONNECT WITH
COMMUNITIES BEFORE THEY ARE IN
CRISIS. BEING ABLE TO
NEUTRALIZE AND HUMANIZE A LOT
OF THE COMMUNITIES BEING
IMPACTED WITH OFFICERS AND OUR
COMMUNITIES AS WELL. MAYBE
SOME DETAIL ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT
SBD -- SPD IS DOING, AND
LOOKING FORWARD TO.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, I REALLY
APPRECIATE THIS QUESTION AND
THERE'S -- REFERENCES WE ARE
MAKING. WHEN I GET THE REPORTS
INTERNALLY ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS. IT'S
OVERWHELMING DESPITE THE FACT
WE HAVE TO COLLAPSE OUR
COLLABORATIVE POLICING GIRL.
IT'S A VERY PRECIOUS RESOURCE
AND WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN
THESE EFFORTS AROUND OUR
COMMUNITY. YOUTH PARTICIPATING
IN THAT CURRENTLY, WE HAVE THE
OVER THE LAST COMMUNITY
POLICE COMMISSION ONE
PRESENTATION OUTLINES THEIR
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS,
WE READ ALL OF THEM. HE DOES
HIS BEST TO TALK WITH
COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BEEN
WORKING HARD ON OUR DASHBOARD
PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS. TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE NUANCES OF
OUR DATA. THEY DO NOT RESOUND
WELL, THE COUNTS DO NOT ADD UP.
IT DOES NOT HELP WITH TRUST,
IN WHAT WE ARE DOING BEFORE THE
BADGE, THE CENTERPIECE OF
BRINGING IN THE NEW RECRUITS
AND GETTING THEM CONNECTED TO
THE COMMUNITY, MANY OF YOU HAVE
BEEN INVITED TO TALK WITH THAT
PROGRAM. THE INTENT IS TO
BUILD RESILIENCY AND LOOK AT
OUTWARD MIND-SET, LOOK AT
DIRECT PERSONAL CONNECTIONS ,
CHIEF DIAZ HAS BEEN A STRONG
PROPONENT OF THAT. HAVING THE
STRONG RELATIONSHIPS, MIX --
MAKES POLICING A LOT BETTER.
THAT'S WHEN WE FIND THE
PUBLIC, THEY TRUST THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT. THEY FIND
INFORMATION NECESSARY FOR US TO
DO OUR WORK. THAT'S THE BEST
HAND IN GLOVE APPROACH WE CAN
HAVE IT WE HAVE HIRED
INTERRACIAL POLICING
COORDINATOR , DR. CAGE . WE ARE
WORKING WITH HER TO EXPAND THE
BILL FOR THE BADGE THROUGHOUT
THE DEPARTMENTS THAT TOUCHES
ALL OF OUR TRAINING. AS YOU
TRANSITION FROM THESE OFFICER
SERGEANT LEVEL INTO MANAGEMENT.
REINVIGORATING THOSE
RELATIONSHIPS. THERE'S A LOT
MORE THAN THAT BUT HALF THE
COST, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
>> I DID NOT MEAN TO PUT YOU ON
THE SPOT. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, I BELIEVE
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> I APPRECIATE THE BRIEFING
AND I WOULD ALSO JUST NOTE YOU
PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE , SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT USE OF FORCE
ASSESSMENT IS A VERY THOROUGH
REPORT AND I APPRECIATE THAT IS
THERE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW, I
WILL START WITH THE GOOD NEWS .
WHICH SEEMS TO ME THE -- ONE
OF THE MAJOR TAKEAWAYS, THE
EVIDENCE OF GREAT PROGRESS IS
THE USE OF FORCE IN CRISIS. I
THINK THAT IS THE FACT WE HAVE
GONE TO ZERO. UNDERSTAND THE
KILLING OF -- CARVER. SOMEBODY
IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS.
WE HAVE A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
CRISIS. WE WANT TO COMMEND SPD
IN RINGING THESE STATISTICS
DOWN TO ZERO. THIS IS QUITE
PHENOMENAL. I THINK I'M
PARTLY CLEAR HE IS -- CURIOUS
AS TO WHY.
>> I WILL BE READY TO TALK
ABOUT THAT, MY OPINIONS. I WAS
GENERAL COUNCIL FOR THE TUCSON
POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR ALMOST
24 YEARS. I HAVE WATCHED, SPD
HAS EMBRACED . ESCALATION IS A
CONTENT, WITH TRAINING AND
STRATEGIES FOR PERSON IN
CRISIS. THERE'S BEEN A TON OF
EVOLUTION WATCHING HOW HER
INJURY -- OFFICERS COMMUNICATE
WITH PEOPLE IN CRISIS AND
BEYOND PEOPLE WITH -- A
STRUGGLE. TAKE HIM INTO CUSTODY
SO THEY CAN KNOW. I THINK
THERE WAS A TURNING POINT IN
WE HAVE TWO OFFICER INVOLVED
SHOOTINGS FAIRLY CLOSE IN TIME
TO EACH OTHER, ONE DOWN ON THE
WATERFRONT. A LETTER TO THE
CHIEF, WE START WORKING
CLOSELY AND THEY PUT TOGETHER A
VERY COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING
PROGRAM WITH THE DEPARTMENT
THAT THEY WALKED OFFICERS
THROUGH ABOUT HOW TO USE THAT
TIME, DISTANCE, AND SHIELDING.
HOW MANY SITUATIONS THAT ARE
TYPE THREE USES OF FORCE OR
SOMETIMES SAMPLING TYPE TWO
USES OF FORCE WHERE THEY HAVE
THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY
THAT WOULD HAVE MUCH WORSE AND
PROBABLY FATAL OUTCOME. THE
OFFICERS COMMUNICATE, GIVE
FOLKS SPACE, DISTANCE AND TRY
TO RESOLVE. WE HAVE SAFETY
INTO THE SITUATION PEOPLE CAN
GET TREATMENT. THAT'S OUR OWN
PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS OF THIS.
AS THE PHILOSOPHY. HAVING
OFFICERS.
>> THAT'S ALL PRETTY ACCURATE,
I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD
THERE. HOW WE ARE MANAGING
THESE DANGEROUS, COMPLEX
SITUATIONS. WE ARE VERY PLEASED
AND I ALWAYS KNOCK ON WOOD THAT
WE HAVE NOT HAD A FATAL OFFICER
INVOLVED SHOOTING IN ALMOST TWO
YEARS. THE DE-ESCALATION PIECE
HERE IS CRITICAL THAT MANY IN
OUR COMMUNITY BELIEVE THE
DE-ESCALATION IS SOLELY
COMMUNICATION, TALKING SOMEONE
DOWN SOMEHOW BUILDING A
RAPPORT. THAT'S ALSO IN THERE,
CLOSE THE DISTANCE TO INCREASE
THE RISK, IF YOU CAN CREATE
THAT TIME AND SPACE. THEY
REALLY EMBRACED IT. THANK YOU.
I WOULD MAKE SURE TO ASK YOU A
FEW QUESTIONS. AGAIN, I WANTED
TO GET WILLIAMS NAME CORRECT.
POINTING OF A WEAPON AND
COMPLAINS ABOUT THE POINT OF
LETHAL FIREARMS, THOSE FIGURES
SHOW THAT. LATINO INDIVIDUALS
AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY. SEE THE INFORMATION
ON THIS TABLE IS NOT SUFFICIENT
TO DRAW CONCLUSION. WE
ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER IN THE
PRESENTATION. THAT INFORMATION
BRINGS YOU A PICTURE. CERTAINLY
THAT PICTURE IS PROBLEMATIC.
WE REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE
NUMBERS ARE, TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT IS DRIVING THAT PARTICULAR
SNAPSHOT OF FORCE. WE LEAD
MR. MAXEY AND WE CAN TALK
ABOUT THIS A BIT MORE. THERE
ARE MANY THINGS THAT PLAY BOTH
UPSTREAM AND IN INTERACTIONS
THEMSELVES THAT HAVE AN IMPACT
ON THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE .
WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT,
THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT
APPROPRIATE TAXES MIGHT BE FOR
THOSE THINGS. HAVING A TRUE
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS
CREATING THAT PICTURE .
>> JUST TO GO OFF OF THAT, WE
DID I THINK MENTIONED ONE OF US
AT THE BEGINNING THAT WE USED
THE METRICS THE MONITOR HAD
USED. WE KNEW THIS, THAT THERE
WERE -- THAT WAS NOT THE MOST
NUANCED WAY OF LOOKING AT
THINGS, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A
MORE CONSISTENT PICTURE SO
THAT'S WHERE WE STUCK WITH
THAT APPROACH. THROUGHOUT THE
ENTIRE RATING OF THIS REPORT,
WE WERE TALKING WITH SPD ABOUT
DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN
DELIVER THAT, WE NAMED A
COUPLE OF THINGS IN THAT
REPORT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE
THINK WILL PROVIDE A MORE
NUANCED WAY TO ANALYZE THIS,
LOOKING AT HOW SOME OTHER CASES
IN SIMILAR AREAS ARE TREATED
BASED ON THE SUBJECTS RACE,
THE SAME TYPE OF CALL, THE SAME
TYPE OF SITUATION IF IT IS
TREATED SIMILARLY OR
DIFFERENTLY BASED ON THE
SUBJECTS RACE, THOSE WOULD
TAKE MORE TIME AND EFFORT TO
FIGURE OUT THE METHODOLOGY AND
HOW TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT IS
SOMETHING WE ARE VERY MUCH
INTERESTED AMONG OTHER
APPROACHES, THAT IS ONE
EXAMPLE THAT IS HELPFUL.
>> I WILL LET MR. MAXEY GO
FIRST.
>> THIS IS WHERE USE OF FORCE
REVIEW BECOMES AS MUCH ART AS
SCIENCE, YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO
READ IT. YOU NEED TO READ WHAT
WAS GOING ON AT ANY MOMENT,
FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW WE HAVE AN
INCREASING LEVEL OF YOUTH
VIOLENCE IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE
WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE BEFORE
THAT IS MANIFESTING, WE ALSO
KNOW THE VICTIMIZATION RATES .
THE SUSPECT DEMOGRAPHIC, BOTH
OF THOSE FALL PREDOMINANTLY --
WRONG WORD, DISPROPORTIONATELY
ON COMMUNITIES OF COLOR,
VIOLENCE IS BORN OUT OF THOSE
COMMUNITIES FAR MORE THAN THEY
ARE IN SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES
WITHIN OUR FACILITY. AS SUCH,
WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW WE PROVIDE
POLICING SERVICES. IF WE DID
THIS ACCORDING TO DEMOGRAPHICS
IN THE CITY, WE HAVE A HUGE
UNDERSERVICED TO OUR
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. WE KNOW
FROM ALL OF THE RESEARCH AND
STUDIES THAT -- EITHER BY
SEATTLE UNIVERSITY ARE LOOKING
AT OUR OWN DATA SETS. THE SAME
COMMUNITIES THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT
OVER POLICING , OR COMPLAIN
ABOUT UNDER POLICING. OUR READ
ON THAT IS THAT WE NEED TO GET
TO WHAT'S CALLED GOLDILOCKS
POLICING WHICH IS THE RIGHT
TYPE OF POLICING FOR THE
COMMUNITIES WE SERVE, THAT'S A
VERY NUANCED UNDERTAKING. IN
TERMS OF THE POINTING OF LETHAL
FIREARMS BY SUBJECT. I A LOOK
AT THIS CHART AND I SEE
CHANGES, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE
WHY BEHIND ANY OF THOSE
CHANGES. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER
WE SIMPLY HAVE A DIFFERENT
PRESENTATION, I DO KNOW THAT
ALL OF THOSE USES CONSIDERING
POINTING OF A FIREARM HAS BEEN
REVIEWED BY THE SUPERVISOR AND
THE FORCE REVIEW UNIT. IF THERE
WAS ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT,
THE USE OF FORCE COMPLAINTS,
ALTHOUGH METHODS WE HAVE SAYS
ALL THE EYES ON THIS. WE
ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS IN --
WHEN THE OIG VERIFY WITH THE
COURT, SPD VALIDATED ITS
REPORTING TO THE FEDERAL COURT
AND WE RESPONDED TO A LOT OF
THIS. WE OUTLINED IN GREAT
DETAIL ALL OF THE EFFORTS WE
ARE TALKING TO WITH EQUITABLE
POLICING. THE DISPARITY, WHICH
IS WHERE YOU LOOK AT -- YOU
LOOK AT THE VICTIMIZATION RATES
AND TERMS OF THESE ARE THE
PEOPLE THAT NEED YOUR POLICING
SERVICES, THEN LOOK AT THE
OUTCOMES OF POLICE ACTIVITY
BASED ON THE NEED RATHER THAN
CENSUS WHICH REALLY DOES NOT
TELL YOU ANYTHING.
>> DO YOU KEEP FIGURES FOR THE
NUMBER OF INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS
AND THE USE OF OR SO THAT YOU
CAN IDENTIFY INDIVIDUAL
OFFICERS WHO HAVE USE OF FORCE
ISSUES?
>> WE CERTAINLY HAVE DATA ON
EVERY OFFICER'S USE OF FORCE
IN TERMS OF THE WORD ISSUE,
AND THE QUESTION. THAT'S WHERE
IT BECOMES DIFFICULT, JUST
BECAUSE AN OFFICER HAS MORE
USES OF FORCE , THAT DOESN'T
MEAN THAT'S UNWARRANTED. IT'S
PART OF THE JOB AND CAN VARY
BASED ON ASSIGNMENT . IF YOU
ARE ASSIGNED A S.W.A.T., IT IS
FAR MORE LIKELY YOU EXHIBIT A
HIGHER RATE OF FORCE. YOU HAVE
TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT INTO THIS,
THE ASSIGNMENT AND WHAT THE
CONTEXT OF THEIR ACTIVITIES IS
. AS I SAY, EVERY USE OF FORCE
IS REVIEWED. THAT INCREASES
WITH THE SEVERITY OF USE OF
FORCE.
>> YOU WERE KEEPING TRACK
WITHIN THE CONTEXT, IF THERE IS
A PATTERN THAT FALLS OUTSIDE
THE NORM OF WHAT YOU EXPECT,
YOU CAN IDENTIFY THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S A
FANTASTIC QUESTION. WHAT WE
OFTEN LOOK AT HIS CHANGES IN
OFFICER BEHAVIOR. IF THIS IS
THEIR BASELINE AND THEY DEVIATE
FROM THAT. WE WANT TO KNOW WHY.
ONE LAST QUESTION RELATING TO
CROWD CONTROL POLICIES , I
KNOW THAT REMAINS AN ISSUE.
>> I GUESS, IN LOOKING AT THE
REPORTED SELF THAT CAME OUT.
THEY WERE DECLINED RELATING TO
TARGETING INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE
CAUSING IMMEDIATE OR IMMINENT
HARM RATHER THAN SORT OF
ARRESTING PEOPLE MORE
GENERALLY. ALSO LOOKING AT NOT
NECESSARILY ARRESTING PEOPLE,
PERHAPS COMMITTING PRIOR CRIME
UNLESS IT WAS CLEAR THAT COULD
BE DONE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS
WERE NOT ADOPTED. I'M JUST
CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT DOES
REMAIN TO ME IN THE AREA WHERE
THERE IS STILL SIGNIFICANT NEED
FOR WORK AND CROWD MANAGEMENT
TECHNIQUES.
>> THAT'S PROBABLY AN SPD
QUESTION, THEY HAD TO CLIMB
THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BUT I
AGREE WITH YOU.
>> THEY ARE NOT IN THE
BREATHING , THEY ARE PRESENTED
TO US. THE ACTUAL REPORT, THE
COMMITTEE IS REALLY LOOKING AT
INCREASING THE INTENT, THE
MAIN PART ABOUT CLOSING THE GAP
BETWEEN STRUCTURAL AND
LEGITIMACY BY EMPHASIZING
COMPLIANCE OVER INSTRUMENTAL
COMPLIANCE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THAT MEANS. ONE OF THE MAIN
THEMES IN THE SENTINEL EVENT
REVIEW, OFTEN WHAT POLICE CAN
DO, POLICE SAY THEY CAN OR THE
LOSS AS THEY CAN, THAT
STRUCTURE WILL LEGITIMACY
THAT. -- DIFFERS FROM PERCEIVED
LEGITIMACY WHICH IS WHAT THEY
-- WHAT COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS
ARE. THEY WERE DOING WHAT THEY
COULD TO CLOSE THAT GAP BETWEEN
HAVING OFFICERS DO WHAT THEY
CAN BECAUSE THEY CAN, AND
TRYING TO HAVE MORE OF AN
EMPHASIS, THAT IS LEGITIMATE
FOR COMMUNITY. THE PROGRAM
BEFORE THE BADGE AND BEFORE THE
OUTWARD MIND-SET TRAINING WITH
PROGRAMS. OUR TRAININGS ARE
DESIGNED TO GET AT THAT, THE
PHILOSOPHY, IMPLYING TO CROWD
MANAGEMENT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>> I WILL DIG DEEPER INTO THAT.
READING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS,
THIS SOUNDS VERY CONSISTENT. I
WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THE
DEVIATIONS ARE AND WHAT THE
SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WE OBJECTED
TO. I WILL FOLLOW-UP WITH YOU
ON THIS COMMITTEE.
>> WE ARE DOING A COMPREHENSIVE
RECOMMENDATION FOLLOW-UP
PROJECT THIS YEAR. THAT WILL
TAKE A MORE FORMAL -- IT WILL
APPEAR SOMEWHERE MORE FORMALLY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. VICE CHAIR SAKA?
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND
INSPECTOR GENERAL JUDGE, CHIEF
OPERATING OFFICER MAXEY FOR
THIS PRESENTATION HERE. I AM
GLAD THAT I WAITED TOWARDS
NEAR THE END TO ASK MY
QUESTIONS. THANKS TO OUR
COLLEAGUES, I HAVE FOUR AND
HAVE NOW BEEN WHITTLED DOWN TO
ONE, MAYBE TWO. QUICKLY ON THE
POINT THAT I HEARD A MOMENT
AGO, OR THE COMMENTS THAT THE
SAME COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
COMPLAINING ABOUT OVER
POLICING ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT
THE IMPACTS OF UNDER POLICING,
THAT'S TRUE, MANY MATERIAL
RESPECTS I THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND AND
REALIZE THAT COMMUNITIES ARE
NOT MONOLITHS. INDIVIDUALLY
AND COLLECTIVELY, HIGHLY
COMPLEX NUANCE CONSTRUCTS FULL
OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EQUALLY OR
MORE COMPLEX AND NUANCED, AND
HAVE VARYING POINTS OF USE.
THAT'S IMPORTANT TO LISTEN TO
ALL POINTS OF VIEW,
UNDERSTANDING -- AT LEAST
VOICES FEEL HEARD. ALSO ON THE
POLICY FRONT, MAKING SURE THAT
WE UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S
DISTRICT IMPACTS IN THE CASE
OF THE USE OF FORCE POINTING
GUNS SET. DISPROPORTIONATELY
BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE IN OUR
CITY , DOING THE HARD WORK TO
MINIMIZE THAT OVER TIME. ON --
SO , MY QUESTION. I WOULD LOVE
TO BETTER UNDERSTAND , YOU
HAPPILY CALL IN THE BEGINNING,
THERE ARE SO MANY UNIQUE
CIRCUMSTANCES UNDERLYING EVERY
USE OF FORCE. THE CITY OF
SEATTLE IS THE LARGEST CITY IN
OUR STATE, WE TRAVELED OVER
600 MILES TO GET TO THE BAY
AREA, THAT'S THE SECOND
LARGEST CITY. SINCE SEATTLE,
WE HAVE THE DEPLOYABLE OFFICER
HEADCOUNT TODAY, THE HIGHEST
NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS ON
THE FORCE. THE HIGHEST
POPULATION , MANY PEOPLE COME
TO OUR CITY . THERE'S ANY
NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT COULD
POTENTIALLY LEAD TO USES OF
FORCE. THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
JUDGE, OUR USE OF FORCE DATA
AND HOW WOULD YOU COMPARE
RELATIVE TO NEIGHBORING
JURISDICTIONS?
>> WELL, THE WAY I WOULD ASSESS
OURS IS I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU
ARE ASKING. I THINK WE HAVE NOT
DONE A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS
WITH OTHER CITIES, MAYBE WITH
THE WEST COAST SEVEN, WE CAN DO
SOME SORT OF COMPARISON. IF YOU
LOOK AT NUMBERS OR THE DATA
AROUND USE OF FORCE AGAINST
PEOPLE IN CRISIS. SPD IS
INCREDIBLY LOW IN TERMS OF
USING FORCE WHEN YOU LOOK AT
IT, I THINK THE USE OF FORCE IN
PEOPLE AGAINST CRISIS BEFORE
THE TWO YEARS WHERE THERE WAS
NOTHING, IT WAS UNDER 2%. I
THINK I TRIED TO SHY AWAY FROM
THOSE KINDS OF COMPARISONS
BECAUSE EVERY USE OF FORCE AND
BACK SOMEBODY WE ONLY HAD TWO
OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS.
THAT IS STILL PROBABLY TWO MORE
THAN WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE. I
THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THEM IN
COMPARISON TO LIGHT CITIES ON
THE WEST COAST. I DON'T KNOW
IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION,
WE CAN DO SOME COMPARATIVE
ANALYSIS IF YOU FIND THAT
HELPFUL.
>> I WOULD FIND THAT HELPFUL,
ADJUSTED FOR THE VARIOUS
FACTORS AND NUANCES. IT I WOULD
FIND AN ASSESSMENT, COMPARISON
HIGH-LEVEL OF WHERE WE STACK UP
AGAINST OTHER JURISDICTIONS
HELPFUL AND INSIGHTFUL, FOR ME
PERSONALLY. OTHER COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
>> VICE CHAIR SAKA --
>> I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE
THAT INFORMATION, ONE OF THE
CHALLENGES WE HAD IN TRYING TO
MAKE SIMILAR ASSUMPTIONS -- A
SESSIONS AND WITH THE ACCOUNT
AND CHOOSE TO REPORT ON AND
INVESTIGATE. THE POINTING OF A
FIREARM, MANY JURISDICTIONS DO
NOT SEE THAT AS USE OF. WE DO
BECAUSE NINTH CIRCUIT HAS TOLD
US THAT AS THE USE OF FORCE,
THE SEIZURE OF THE PERSON UNDER
THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. SIMILAR
THINGS LIKE THE LOW THRESHOLD
OF PAIN, HANDCUFFING PAIN OR
THE USE OF -- A HOBBLE TO
RESTRAIN SOMEONE'S LEGS, YOU
WANT THAT REPORTED BUT MOST
JURISDICTIONS WOULD NOT COUNT
THE USE OF FORCE, DOWN IN THE
TYPE ONE, THEY REQUIRING THEIR
OFFICES TO DOCUMENT MORE SO WE
HAVE EYES ON IT. IT'S HARD. I
GET IT.
>> YEAH. WE ARE ALL IN THESE
ROLES TO HELP US COLLECTIVELY
SOLVE THESE HARD PROBLEMS.
USING REASONABLE ASSUMPTIONS
AND USING YOUR GREAT,
INDEPENDENT JUDGES AND
EXPERTISE. I THINK IT WOULD BE
HELPFUL TO GO THROUGH THAT
EXERCISE AND THE OTHER
QUESTION I HAD IS ON THESE
VARIOUS FORCE REVIEW BOARDS ,
DOES THAT MONITOR -- DOES THAT
MORE MONITOR AND ATTRACT
INDIVIDUAL INCIDENTS OF FORCE,
USES OF FORCE OR DOES THAT ALSO
SIMULTANEOUSLY KIND OF CAPTURE
AND ASSESS TRENDS? AT THE
FORCE REVIEW BOARD LEVEL.
>> IT CERTAINLY ADDRESSES
INDIVIDUAL CASES THAT EACH
INDIVIDUAL CASE OF TYPE THREE
USE OF FORCE IS VERY THOROUGHLY
DISCUSSED, THE FORCE REVIEW
UNIT WHICH IS A FULL UNIT THAT
SPD HAS DOES ANALYTICS LIKE
THAT, I BELIEVE THEY DO TREND
ANALYSIS, THEY INDIVIDUALLY
ASSESS AND REVIEW TYPE TWO USE
OF FORCE CASE, THERE'S A
SUPPORTIVE UNIT BEHIND THE
FORCE REVIEW BOARD DOING THAT
KIND OF WORK , I WILL LET MR.
MAXEY AT ANYTHING.
>> YEAH, SO THE FORCE REVIEW
BOARD IS PRIMARILY DIRECTED AT
THE QUALITATIVE ASSESSMENT OF
EACH CASE THAT COMES BEFORE
IT, THOSE CASES ARE EITHER
MANDATED BY OUR POLICIES THAT
WE WILL BE SEEING ON THE FORCE
REVIEW BOARD OR THEY CAN BE
FLAGGED BY THE FORCE REVIEW
UNIT FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD
NOT NORMALLY BE CATEGORICALLY
REVIEWED, THERE WAS SOMETHING
THAT THE FORCE REVIEW BOARD
WANTS THEM TO CONSIDER, THEY
WOULD ESCALATE IT. THE MORE
QUANTITATIVE SIX DEMEKE
ANALYSES COMES OUT OF THE WORK
OF PERFORMANCE ANALYTICS USING
OUR DATA ANALYTICS PLATFORM
WHICH LOOKS AT A WHOLE HOST OF
TRENDS AND IS PRETTY
SOPHISTICATED ANALYSES, THIS IS
SOMETHING THE CITY HAS MADE
OVER $30 MILLION INVESTMENT
INTO DEVELOPING OVER THE LAST
DECADE AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY
THE MOST IT DEDICATED
DEPARTMENT IN THE UNITED STATES
-- SOPHISTICATED DEPARTMENT IN
ANALYZING AND MANAGING SUCH
DATA, I SAY THAT PROUDLY AS THE
PERSON THAT DOES NOT DO THAT
WORK , BUT BECAUSE I KNOW THE
PEOPLE WE HAVE THAT DO IT ARE
SO EXTRAORDINARY THAT WE ARE
VERY PRIVILEGED TO HAVE THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, WE ARE COMING --
WE JUST PASSED THE MEETING TIME
LIMIT. OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO
KEEP IT TO TWO HOURS, YOU HAVE
A SUBJECT THAT IS SO IMPORTANT
THAT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT TO --
HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. INSTEAD
OF ASKING THE QUESTION, I WOULD
JUST NOTE RELATED TO THE POINT
OF RELIEF OF FIREARMS I FIND
THAT INTERESTING FROM AN IMPACT
POINT OF VIEW, PARTICULARLY
THE BLACK COMMUNITY BUT ALSO
HISPANIC, LATINO CONVERSELY.
IT IS INTERESTING TO WORK ON
THIS. I SEE THIS , PART OF THIS
IS LIKE BEFORE THE BAD PROGRAM,
IT GOES TO MY QUESTION OF
PUBLIC EDUCATION AND REALLY
ENGAGEMENT. I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT FOR SPD TO DO SO AS
YOU ARE DOING, WITH CPC AND THE
OTHER ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS
TO DO THAT AS WELL. I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE US DO THIS
ADDITIONALLY, I TALKED ABOUT
THIS WITH COUNCILMEMBER WOO .
I HAD THE -- THAT WOULD BE VERY
BENEFICIAL, COUNCILMEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH ALREADY LOOK
THROUGH THAT PRECINCT. I WOULD
LOVE TO MAKE IT INTO A
ROADSHOW, CD AND OTHER PARTS
OF THE CITY TO SPEAK TO THESE
THINGS TO KIND OF BRING SOME
AWARENESS, TO HIGHLIGHT IT. I
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO THIS
COMMUNICATION. I THINK IT WILL
GO TO AND REALLY LOOK TO GET
THOSE DISPARATE IMPACTS
LESSENED. I THINK THAT IS VERY
IMPORTANT. I WOULD LIKE MY
POINT ABOUT DE-ESCALATION,
TAKING IT ON AS A MISSION SET
BASICALLY FROM A POLICY
PERSPECTIVE. COME AWAY SAYING
WE NEED TO LEAD WITH COMPASSION
BUT IN WISDOM FROM A POLICY
PERSPECTIVE, I CAN SEE THE SAME
PIECES THAT WERE WORKING
THROUGH -- THAT ON THE GROUND
POINT OF VIEW . YOU LEAD WITH
COMPASSION BUT THEN YOU HAVE
THE WISDOM AND THE SKILLS,
EXPERIENCE AND FORTUNATELY WITH
SPD, THAT PIECE MAY HAVE
ACTIVATED WAY MORE QUICKER THAN
FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE. I
APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF NEEDING
-- WITH COMPASSION AND
UNDERSTANDING THE EXPERIENCE
AND WISDOM, YOU MAY HAVE TO
TAKE ACTION. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT. THE ONE THING
THAT CAME UP IN CONVERSATIONS I
HAVE HAD WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE,
THIS GOES TO CROWD MANAGEMENT.
IN 2020, WHEN I WAS A
COMMUNITY PERSON, WE DID A LOT
OF POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY
REFORM DISCUSSIONS. WE HAD OUR
PROPOSALS. NONE OF WHICH WERE
TAKEN BY THEM. THE COMMUNITY
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, OR THE
MAYOR. I THINK -- ANOTHER
PIECE OF THIS IS NOT REALLY
SPOKEN TO. WE BRING IT UP --
HOW DOES THE FORCE PRESENT
ITSELF ABOUT UNIFORMS? THE
ENGAGEMENT -- I NOTE
PARTICULARLY AFTER OPERATION
ROCKING FREEDOM. I WONDER IN
TERMS OF HOW GROUPS RESPOND ,
THERE IS A DELICATE BALANCING
ACT HERE BECAUSE THERE'S
REASONS TO HAVE MORE BLACK AND
BLUE SOMETIMES. CAN WE DO
SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES IN
TERMS OF HOW WE ARE PRESENTING
AS FORCE. BRING THAT UP AS A
TOPIC WHEN YOU CONSIDER --
PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN 2020.
I THINK IT CAME UP LAST WEEK IN
OUR HR APPOINTMENT --
RECRUITMENT PIECE. THERE'S
DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN TACKLE
THIS PROBLEM THAT WE
DISCUSSED, JUST THAT THIS COULD
BE AN ADDITIONAL PIECE WE CAN
ADD ON. TO CLOSE, I WANTED TO
REITERATE THANK YOU VERY MUCH ,
I REALLY ENJOYED THE DEBRIEFING
DISCUSSION . I COULD ALWAYS
TRUST COUNCILMEMBER MOORE TO
HAVE THE REPORT ANNOTATED, AND
SHARP QUESTIONS COMING FROM
VICE CHAIR SAKA AND
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH,
ALSO THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. IT
GOES TO THE POINT THAT WE AS A
COMMUNITY ARE A PART OF THIS
PROCESS, WE ARE ON THE
OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITIES WE
HAVE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO
MOVE FORWARD TO CONTINUE THIS
AND ENGAGE AND PROVIDE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS
DATA AND THE RATIONALES BEHIND
IT, I REALLY APPRECIATE OIG.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER
TO MY CLERK . ASKING IF THERE
IS ANY OTHER ISSUES BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS,
HEARING NONE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY, I APPRECIATE IT.
>> I DECLARE THE COMMITTEE
MEETING CONCLUDED.