>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, THE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING WILL
COME TO ORDER. IT IS TO: 02
P.M. ON JULY 31st, I AM ROBERT
KETTLE, CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
>> [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] CHAIR,
THEIR FIVE AMENDMENT PRESENT.
>> WELCOME COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES JOINING REMOTELY. IF
THERE IS NO OBJECTION THE
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING
AND SEEING NO OBJECTIONS, THE
AGENDA IS ADOPTED. FOR THE
CHAIR REPORT, I WANTED TO MAKE
SOME REMARKS TODAY. THANK YOU,
EVERYONE, FOR JOINING US. THERE
HAVE BEEN MANY ARTICLES AND
COMMENTARIES SINCE THE LAST
MEETING OF JAILS AND
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES. I WANT
TO KNOW THE FOLLOWING, THERE
HAS BEEN STAKEHOLDER RING THAT
HAS BEEN DONE AND IT CONTINUES
AND I WANT TO THANK ALL WHO ARE
INVOLVED, MR. MEYER BERG, I
HAVE VISITED KING COUNTY JAIL.
AND ALL ARE VERY PROFESSIONAL.
THE TORS ARE GREAT. ALL
PROVIDED GREAT INSIGHT IN TERMS
OF HOW THEY CONDUCT THEIR
BUSINESS AND HOW THE JAILS ARE
WORKING. I WANT TO NOTE WE GOT
AN SEIU LETTER. I WAS SENT TO
ME. INCLUDING THINGS I GOT FROM
THE DIRECTOR. I UNDERSTAND
THERE ARE STAFFING CHALLENGES.
WITH SPECIFICALLY THE COMMANDER
OF THE CORRECTIONAL FORCE. A
REALLY GREAT TOUR, THEY ARE
DOING REALLY GREAT WORK.
PARTICULARLY WITH STAFFING
WHICH WE ARE SEEING HERE WITH
SEATTLE PD. THERE'S BEEN A LOT
OF TALKS ABOUT MEETINGS BETWEEN
KING COUNTY AND SEATTLE. WE DID
HELD A MEETING WITH KING COUNTY
ON THE ISSUE OF JAILS. THE
DEPUTY EXECUTIVE BRADDOCK AND
COUNCILMEMBER NANCE AND DEPUTY
LARSON WITH KING COUNTY
SHERIFFS. WE HAD MYSELF AND
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE AND SCOTT
LINDSAY FROM THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE REPRESENTED BY MYERBERG.
AND STAFF AS WELL. THAT WAS A
GREAT DISCUSSION HIGHLIGHTING
THE CHALLENGES WE ARE FACING
AND THE KING COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPUTIES. IT WAS INTERESTING TO
WORK THROUGH THE DISCUSSION AND
HIGHLIGHT THAT WE NEED TO LOOK
AT THE MEMO. I WILL LOOK TO DO
THAT WITH MY COUNTERPART ON THE
KING COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE
LINE JUSTICE CHAIR, HE WAS NOT
AT THE MEETING AND AS
HIGHLIGHTED IN THESE ARTICLES,
THIS IS AN AREA WE NEED TO DO
BETTER ON. I HAVE DONE THREE
MEETINGS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY
THAT WERE PUBLIC SAFETY
FOCUSED. I HAVE NOT HAD A
ONE-ON-ONE MEETING TO TALK
ABOUT THE PROBLEMS ON OUR
STREETS AND COMMUNITIES. WE DO
HAVE A MEETING NOW SCHEDULED
AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE
THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS EITHER
MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY, AT LEAST.
I WANT TO NOTE THIS BECAUSE
THERE IS A LOT OF TALK AND I
WANT TO GIVE THAT BASELINE. I
WANT TO NOTE THE SITUATION FOR
THE JAIL AND BOOKINGS IS
CRITICAL. CRITICAL TO THE
STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK PLAN AS WE
TRY AND -- WE CANNOT BOOK THOSE
WHO NEED TO BE BOOKED, WE SEE
CONTINUAL CHALLENGES IN OUR
COMMUNITIES, DISTRICT SEVEN, IN
BELLTOWN, THE ONE ,
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE IN AURORA
UP NORTH. WE NEED TO ADDRESS
THESE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE.
WE, ALL OF US, WE BELIEVE IN
THOSE PROGRAMS AND EFFORTS. WE
HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER
ASPECTS TOO. I UNDERSTAND THE
ZONES AND A LOT OF BOOKINGS. I
APPRECIATE THE COUNTY
RESPONDING TO A REQUEST WHICH
WAS A WEEK AGO, MAYBE TWO WEEKS
AGO NOW. THAT IS REALLY
HELPFUL. THAT WILL HELP KEY
AREAS INCLUDING DISTRICT SEVEN.
REGARDING BOOKINGS, WE STILL
HAVE CHALLENGES IN DISTRICT
ONE. IN DISTRICT TWO, WILL WE
HAVE SEEN, IN COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES OFFICE. UP IN FIVE AS
WELL. IN ALL SEVEN DISTRICTS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT IS
THE CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE IN
TERMS OF DEALING WITH THOSE
PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES THAT
DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO BOOK
IN THE JAIL. WE FACE SEVERE
PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES. I
WANT TO NOTE THAT WE NEED TO
LEAD WITH COMPASSION AND START
WITH EMPATHY IN TERMS OF THE
CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE. WE
NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER
PICTURE AND WHAT IS IMPACTING
OUR COMMUNITIES. WHAT IS THE
IMPACT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I
HAVE WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD
MANY TIMES IN BELLTOWN AND
OTHER PARTS OF DISTRICT SEVEN.
I'VE TALKED TO RESIDENTS THAT
ARE SCARED WALKING BACK TO
THEIR CONDO BUILDINGS.
BUSINESSES THAT ARE SHUTDOWN
WERE ABOUT TO BE SHUT DOWN AS
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN FRONT OF
THE STOREFRONTS. WE NEED TO
LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE AS
WELL. IN THE LONG RUN, WE WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO BE COMPASSIONATE
AND EMPATHETIC TO THOSE THAT
ARE NEED IN THE LONG RUN. IN MY
100 DAY LETTER, I NOTICED THAT
OUR MANDATE AT SEATTLE CITY
COUNCIL IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE IS TO KEEP SEATTLE
SAFE. FROM A VISION POINT OF
VIEW, WE ENVISION A FUTURE
WHERE FAMILIES FEEL SAFE
SENDING THEIR CHILDREN ON THE
BUS TO SCHOOL. BUSINESSES CAN
OPERATE IN THE CITY CAN RESPOND
IMPORTANTLY IN AN APPROPRIATE
MANNER TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
ACUTE CRISIS IS. THIS IS KEY
FOR US TO DO AS A COMMUNITY AND
AS A COUNCIL. ONE FINAL POINT I
WANT TO NOTE , THIS GOES TO THE
COMMENTARY RELATED TO OUR
PARTNERS HERE AT CITY COUNCIL.
IN 2022 AND 2023, WE HAD MAYOR
HAROLD. THE DIFFERENCE IN 24 IS
A NEW COUNCIL AND A NEW
COMMITTEE. WE ARE WORKING WITH
THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND THE
JUDICIAL BRANCH, EARLY, WE ARE
NOT WAITING FROM A STAFF
PERSPECTIVE AND SENIORS ON BOTH
SIDES, EXECUTIVE AND JUDICIAL
TO ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES.
BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE ARE
GETTING THE PUBLIC SAFETY SHOP
IN ORDER. WITH THAT SAID,
CLERK, WE HAVE MORE PUBLIC
SPEAKERS. EACH SPEAKER WILL
HAVE ONE MINUTE AS WE START
PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL START
WITH IN PERSON SPEAKERS FIRST.
CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE
PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS.
>> WE CURRENTLY HAVE 17 IN
PERSON SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND
24 REMOTE SPEAKERS. SPEAKERS
WILL ALTERNATE BETWEEN SETS IN
PERSON AND REMOTE SPEAKERS.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
10 SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THEIR
TIME. SPEAKERS MICS WILL BE
ENDED IF WE CANNOT MOVE ON TO
THE NEXT SPEAKER. WE WILL MOVE
ON TO THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THE
LIST. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ALEX
ZIMMERMAN FOLLOWED BY ANNIKA
SANDOVAL.
>> MR. ZIMMERMAN, BEFORE WE
START, YESTERDAY AND PREVIOUSLY
WE HAVE HAD SOME DISRUPTIONS
WITH CLAPPING. I WANT TO
RECOMMEND AND ENCOURAGE
EVERYBODY, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE
A MOTION TO DO THE SNAPS,
PLEASE. WE CAN DO THESE SNAPS.
CAN WE ALL PRACTICE THE SNAPS?
OKAY, LET'S DO THAT.
>> OKAY, WHERE IS MY TIME? MY
NAME IS ALEX ZIMMERMAN. I AM SO
SORRY FOR YOU MY FRIEND. TWO
MONTHS AGO I AM IN JAIL FOR
THREE DAYS. THE POLICE, BARRY
DIRTY POLICEMAN. GERMAN
CONCENTRATION CAMP IS BETTER
THAN THIS JAIL. EVERYTHING.
PUTTING PEOPLE INSIDE WHO ARE A
CRIMINAL. NOT A HUMAN. GO
TOGETHER FOR INSPECTION. THEY
STOPPED THE CONCENTRATION CAMP
AND THE CREMATORIUM.
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE ANNIKA
SANDOVAL.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM THE
KING COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER.
MAYOR HAROLD STATES THAT THE
GOAL IS TO GIVE US
ACCOUNTABILITY BASED ON
ACTIONS. PEOPLE ARE PRESUMED
INNER SAID WITHOUT JUDICIAL
PROCESS ON THE STREETS OF OUR
CITY. THROUGH THAT LENS, THIS
PUNISHMENT HAS NOT BEEN
EFFECTIVE. THIS ALLOWS TARGETS
FROM THE CITY INITIATIVE.
HAVING BEEN BOOKED FOUR TIMES
IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS THE
EXACT STRATEGY THAT THE CITY IS
PURSUING. NOW FACING
PROSECUTION FOR A FELONY. HE
WAS ON HOUSE WHEN HE WAS BOOKED
IN. WE CANNOT TRANSFER PEOPLE
OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
IT IS A MISTAKE FOR THOSE WHO
ARE INCARCERATED. JULIE, GO
AHEAD.
>> 147, THAT IS HOW MANY ARE
BOOKED IN AT THIRD AND PIKE
OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS. 102,
143. THAT IS HOW MANY PEOPLE
ARE BOOKED IN AT ANY GIVEN
TIME. THIRD AND PIKE IS AT THE
TOP OF THE LIST. WE NEED A
BALANCED APPROACH THAT GIVES CE
AUTHORITY, AND CAPACITY TO ACT.
FOLLOWED BY LARRY GOSSETT.
>> I AM A HOMEOWNER I AM A
SEATTLE RESIDENT AND I AM A
COMBAT VETERAN AND I AM MAKING
COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER. PEOPLE
ARE RIGHTFULLY FED UP ABOUT THE
SITUATION IN OUR CITY, IT IS A
TRAGEDY AND THEY WANT ACTION.
THIS IS NOT ACTION, THIS IS
THEATER. WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING
IS TO SPEND $2 MILLION A YEAR
TO HAVE SEATTLE POLICE
OFFICERS, THE SAME PEOPLE YOU
HAVE TOLD US ARE SPENDING THEIR
TIMES PRESENTING MURDERS AND
OTHER THINGS. SHUTTLING
SHOPLIFTERS ACCUSED OF
SHOPLIFTING LESS THAN $750 OF
MERCHANDISE BECAUSE ANYTHING
ABOVE THAT IS A FELONY. PEOPLE
ACCUSED OF PROPERTY
DESTRUCTION. LESS THAN $750
BECAUSE ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS
A FELONY. THEFT WITH A WEAPON
IS ALSO A FELONY. YOU WANT
SEATTLE POLICE OFFICERS TO
SHUTTLE THOSE PEOPLE TO DES
MOINES AND BACK OVER AND OVER
AGAIN TO HAVE THEM HELD FOR A
DAY AND THEN RELEASED. THAT IS
NOTHING. THIS IS THEATER. THIS
IS NOT ACTION. NOW I WILL GO
GET SOME PEOPLE OUT OF JAIL.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE LARRY
GOSSETT AND THAT WE WILL SWITCH
TO THE ONLINE SPEAKERS.
>> I WANT TO WELCOME THE FORMER
COUNCILMEMBER GOSSETT, WELCOME.
>> I DID NOT KNOW THAT ALEX WAS
STILL AROUND.
>> HE IS.
>> VERY WELL. DURING THE 25
YEARS THAT I SERVED ON THE
COUNTY COUNCIL, I AM HERE TODAY
TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE ISSUE
THAT THE OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE
SPOKEN ABOUT. THE MISDEMEANOR
CITY OFFENDERS GETTING PLAY IN
THE SCORE JAIL. AT THE
REPARATIONS MEETING LAST
WEDNESDAY, THE REPARATIONS
COMMITTEE, SEVERAL
AFRICAN-AMERICAN CITIZENS CAME
TO THE MEETING AND SAID WE ARE
UPSET THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
WANTS TO PUT ALL OF THE
MISDEMEANORS IN THE JAIL
BECAUSE OF KING COUNTY
GOVERNMENT CANNOT KEEP
MISDEMEANORS IN JAIL LONG
ENOUGH. MY TIME IS UP ALREADY?
>> CLOSE.
>> LONG ENOUGH TO SUIT THEM.
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN
JAIL LONGER. TODAY WHEN I GOT
HERE, I READ THE ACTUAL
ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE AND IT
IS MUCH MORE BALANCED AND TALKS
ABOUT ALTERNATIVES TO
INCARCERATION THAT WOULD BE
MADE AVAILABLE TO CITY
MISDEMEANOR OFFENDERS. WE ARE
VERY CONCERNED TO WHATEVER
EXTENT THE CITY COUNCIL IS
PUTTING AN EMPHASIS ON WANTING
TO PUT INMATES AND CITIZENS OF
SEATTLE IN THE JAILS THAT CAN
KEEP THEM LONGER THAN THEY CAN
BE KEPT. IN KING COUNTY THAT IS
OFFENSIVE TO THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY
BECAUSE WE ARE OVERREPRESENTED
IN EVERY JAIL IN THIS NATION
AND HAS A LOT TO DO WITH
RACISM. BESIDES BEING AN
OFFENDER OR NEEDING MEDICAL
HELP. WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO
CONSIDER BEFORE PASSING THIS
LEGISLATION, THE REASONS THAT
PEOPLE PERCEIVE THAT YOU ARE
DOING IT. AND TAKE THAT INTO
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIRST
UP WE ARE GOING TO THE ONLINE
REMOTE SPEAKERS. THE FIRST
BEAKER IS PETER CONDE. PLEASE
PRESS *6 WHEN YOU HEAR THE
PROMPT, YOU HAVE BEEN ON MUTED.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, I AM A
COMMUNITY MEMBER AND PARENT. I
AM ASKING THAT COUNCILMEMBERS
VOTE NO BY CONTACTING A PRIVATE
FACILITY. TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE
ALREADY DIED, LOVED ONES WHO
MIGHT NOT POSE A DANGER TO
THEMSELVES AND OTHERS WITHOUT
EXCLUSION AND NEGLECT. I
LISTENED TO THE CHAIR COMMENTS
IN THE BEGINNING. ANYONE THAT
SUPPORTS JAILING , YOUR FEAR
FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS HOWEVER
VALID THAT MIGHT BE, THAT IS
NOT A REASON TO THROW
COMPASSION OUT THE WINDOW. THEY
ARE NOT CRITICAL IN OUR
COMMUNITY IF YOU HAVE NONPOLICE
RESPONSES TO HARM. IT WOULD NOT
EVEN BE CRUEL IN AND OF ITSELF,
THERE WILL BE MILLIONS OF
PUBLIC DOLLARS THAT CAN BE
SPENT ON COMPASSIONATE AND
CONSTRUCTIVE INITIATIVES.
PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS
CONTRACT.
>> NEXT WE HAVE MEGAN CRUZ
FOLLOWED BY PETE URBAN. MEGAN
CRUZ, PLEASE PRESS *6.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM A
RESIDENT OF PIKE AND PINE CORE
DOOR. MY NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE
BEEN CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF
VIOLENT ACTS PASSING BY THE
WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME.
PEOPLE ARE FREQUENTLY THE
VICTIMS OF VIOLENT ASSAULTS. IT
IS WRONG AND UNFORTUNATELY IT
IS NOT THE ANSWER. LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND SOCIAL SERVICES
BOTH TELL US REPEAT OFFENDERS
ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MUCH OF
THIS CHAOS. INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT
MOTIVATED TO FOLLOW THROUGH
WITH THE DIVERSION PROGRAM.
THIS IS WHY THE CITY NEEDS MORE
CAPACITY. BY FAILING TO TAKE
THE OFFENDERS, THE CITY IS
PRIORITIZING THEIR SAFETY OVER
ALL OTHERS. PLEASE ACT NOW.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE
KEITH RUBIN FOLLOWED BY NATALIE
SCHMIDT.
>> I AM THE ORGANIZING DIRECTOR
OF THIS IS SEATTLE. I URGE YOU
TO VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSED
CONTACT. THIS IS FISCALLY
IRRESPONSIBLE. ESPECIALLY WITH
A $250 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT.
KING CAN'T AND IT'S CONTRACT
AND SEATTLE IS CONSIDERING THE
SAME MISTAKE. LOW-LEVEL
OFFENSES PERPETUATES POVERTY.
THESE SERVICES ACTUALLY INCLUDE
PUBLIC SAFETY LIKE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT
AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. THIS
LEGISLATION DOES NOTHING TO
ADDRESS THE REAL ISSUES THAT WE
FACE. FUNDING THESE ESSENTIAL
SERVICES AND CREATING SAFETY
AND STABILITY IN THE COMMUNITY.
PLEASE FOLLOW THROUGH AND
REJECT THIS LEGISLATION. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS
NATALIE SCHMIDT FOLLOWED BY
FLORA WRIGHT.
>> MY NAME IS NATALIE SCHMIDT
AND I LIVE IN THE CENTRAL
DISTRICT. I DEMAND THAT THE
COUNCIL VOTES NO ON THIS
CONTRACT. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE CLAIMS AND WE HAVE BEEN
TOLD AT THIS MEETING THAT
MISDEMEANOR BOOKING
RESTRICTIONS HAVE AN IMPACT ON
PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT IS A LIE.
PEOPLE WHO ARE ARRESTED BY
VIOLENT MISDEMEANORS ARE BOOKED
INTO JAILS. THEY DO NOT POSE A
THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. A
THREAT TO BUSINESSES AND
WELL-OFF SEATTLE BUSINESSES
THAT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN
THEY SEE SOMEONE LESS
FORTUNATE. SIX DEATHS IN THE
PAST YEAR ALONE. IMAGINE BEING
ARRESTED BY A MISDEMEANOR HAS A
REAL THREAT OF EXECUTION. I'M
APPALLED THAT THE COUNCIL IS
ENACTING THIS. THE $2 MILLION
THAT THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING
SPENDING ON THIS CONTRACT WOULD
BE BETTER SPENT ON AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST
THIS BILL AND GO BACK TO THE
PROGRAM THAT WILL BENEFIT MORE
SEATTLEITES. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. LAST UP FOR THE
SET OF REMOTE SPEAKERS IS FLORA
WRIGHT.
>> HELLO, I AM A SEATTLE
RESIDENT CALLING TO OPPOSE CB
120825. SIX PEOPLE INCLUDING --
HAVE DIED SINCE MARCH OF 2023
DUE TO MALNUTRITION, RENAL
FAILURE AND FAILURE TO PROVIDE
ACUTE DETOX CARE. THERE'VE NOT
BEEN REPORTS FILED ON THE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. CONTRACTS
WITH FOUR HEALTHCARE CONTRACTS
HAS COME UNDER CONGRESSIONAL
SCRUTINY. PUBLIC DEFENDERS
UNIONS DESCRIBE THE VIOLATIONS
OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
THE LACK OF PHONE SERVICES AND
TRANSPORTATION TO COURT
APPEARANCES. THE CITY DOES NOT
HAVE MONEY FOR A $2 MILLION
CONTRACT WHEN ESSENTIAL
SERVICES ARE FACING FUNDING
CUTS. VOTE NO AND REJECT THE
CONTRACT WHICH WILL BE
LIFE-THREATENING FOR THE
DISPROPORTIONATELY BLACK FOLKS
THAT ARE INCARCERATED THERE.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP FOR THE
EMPERORS AND SPEAKERS IS DAVID
S. LEVINSON.
>> THANK YOU. I AM A RESIDENT
AND OWNER SINCE 2000. I URGE
YOU TO VOTE YES. YOU WALK BELL
STREET, YOU WALK LENORA STREET,
YOU CAN'T. TODAY, THERE ARE
TWO, THREE, TENSE UP BY MAMAS
SELLING DRUGS RIGHT OUT IN THE
OPEN. NOTHING HAPPENS. PEOPLE
ARE AFRAID TO WALK IN BELLTOWN.
I KNOW, I WALK IT EVERY DAY
BECAUSE I'M DUMB. OTHER THAN
THAT, YOU WOULD NOT DO IT.
PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE JAY DOBBS
FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH LOCKMAN.
>> HEY, COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK
YOU FOR HEARING ME. CATTLE, I
AM DISTRICT SEVEN, IF YOU VOTE
YES ON THIS, WORKING OF ALL YOU
OUT. I DO NOT WANT TAX DOLLARS
GOING TO A NEW JAIL. WE DON'T
NEED MORE JAILS, WE NEED TO
HOUSE THE HOMELESS. I'M
FORMERLY HOMELESS. I'M NO
LONGER HOMELESS BECAUSE I AM A
BENEFACTOR OF SEATTLE'S
HOUSING FIRST POLICY. INSTEAD
OF PUTTING HOMELESS PEOPLE IN
JAIL, GIVE THEM HOMES. HOMELESS
PEOPLE AND I AM TALKING TO YOU
AS AN EXPERIENCE, HOMELESS
PEOPLE COMMIT CRIMES, THEY GO
TO JAILS, ALL OF THAT COST
TAXPAYERS A LOT OF DOLLARS,
IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE TO HOUSE
THE HOMELESS. DO THE RIGHT
THING.
>> NEXT UP IS JOSEPH LOCKMAN.
>> HELLO, COUNCILMEMBERS. I AM
THE POLICY MANAGER AT ASIAN
COUNSELING AND REFERRAL SERVICE
AND I'M YOUR OWN BEHALF AND
ALSO AS A CANDIDATE TO URGE YOU
TO VOTE NO ON THE CONTRACT.
SPEAKING FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH
PERSPECTIVE I'M DEEPLY
CONCERNED WITH THE NUMBER OF
FOLKS WHO HAVE DIED IN THE
FACILITY. THE FACT THAT KING
COUNTY WANTED IMMEDIATELY TO
END THE CONTRACT WHEN A WOMAN
LAST MAY, 43 YEARS OLD, DIED OF
MALNUTRITION AND JUST ON TOP OF
THIS, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE
WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
MOVING FOLKS BACK AND FORTH TO
THIS FACILITY AND IT FURTHER
ADDS TO THE INCREDIBLY
DISTURBING TRACK RECORD THAT
THE CITY OF SEATTLE HAS HAD
WITH ABUSES RELATED TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND I WOULD URGE
YOU, PLEASE, DO THE RIGHT THING
HERE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS KEVIN
DARES FOLLOWED BY KELLY BRYANT.
>> I DON'T NEED TO SIT HERE
AND REHASH ALL THE HORRORS THAT
WE FACE IN OUR COMMUNITY FROM
THE SEXUAL ASSAULT, THE
BURGLARIES, THE EMAIL THAT MANY
OF YOU RECEIVED OF THE CHILDREN
GIRLS 12 AND 13 BEING
TRAFFICKED IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS. WE ARE TALKING
MISDEMEANORS AND I HEAR A LOT
OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT PEOPLE
WHO PERFORM VIOLENT
MISDEMEANORS STILL GO TO JAIL.
WHEN? I'VE NOT SEEN IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU CAN ASSAULT
SOMEBODY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON
THAT SAME DAY, BE ON OUR
DOORSTEP. I DON'T KNOW WHAT
WE'RE DOING. WE HAVE TO QUIT
OPERATING UNDER IDEOLOGIES
WHERE WE BELIEVE WE CAN ONLY
REHABILITATE OR WE CAN ONLY
INCARCERATE. THERE HAS TO BE A
BALANCE. MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE
STREET THAT REHABILITATION IS
APPROPRIATE FOR. IF WE ARE
HONEST WITH OURSELVES, THERE
ARE A LOT OF PREDATORS, UNLESS
THEY ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND
PUT IN JAIL , THEY WILL NOT
STOP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
YOU KNOW THIS, YOU HAVE SEEN
THIS. PLEASE APPROVE SCORE.
>> KELLY BRYANT AND THEN WE
WILL PIVOT BACK TO RANDY
BANNEKER ON REMOTE SPEAKING.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, I AM A LONG
TIME BELLTOWN RESIDENT. I NO
LONGER FEEL SAFE WALKING THE
STREETS AND THE GROCERY STORE.
I SEE PEOPLE DISAPPEAR FROM OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A WEEK OR TWO
AND THEN THEY ARE RIGHT BACK
OUT THERE DOING THE SAME THING.
THERE IS RAMPANT OPEN DRUG USE
AND IF YOU ASK PEOPLE TO PLEASE
MOVE AND NOT SMOKE BELOW YOUR
BALCONY OR OUTSIDE YOUR FRONT
DOOR, YOU GET, NOT A VERY
POSITIVE RESPONSE. YEAH. IT IS
SCARY OUT THERE. I KEEP PATTING
MY POCKET BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
MY PEPPER SPRAY IN MY POCKET
AND IT FEELS WEIRD. THAT'S ALL
I HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, BACK TO RANDY BANNEKER
ON REMOTE SPEAKING. PLEASE
PRESS *6 BEFORE YOU START
GOING. RANDY, ARE YOU READY TO
SPEAK? ARE YOU THERE, RANDY?
ALL RIGHT, RANDY, WE WILL MOVE
ONTO THE NEXT ONE AND WE WILL
COME BACK TO YOU. PLEASE PRESS
*6.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS BREANNA
AND I AM ON THE SEATTLE HUMAN
RIGHTS COMMISSION. I'M
SPEAKING TODAY IN OPPOSITION OF
COUNCIL BILL 120825. IT IS AN
EFFORT IN TRYING TO ADVANCE
MISDEMEANOR CRIMES. THE $2
MILLION CONTRACT ONLY ADDS TO
THE MAJOR PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF
THE REAL CHALLENGES THAT CAN
SOLVE THE NEED FOR EXTRA BEDS.
PAYING APPROXIMATELY $260,000
TO MOVE INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS FROM ONE PLACE TO
ANOTHER. OFFICER SHOULD BE
AVAILABLE FOR SOMETHING MORE
MEANINGFUL RATHER THAN BEING A
TAXI SYSTEM. THIS CAN BE USED
TO SUPPORT ALTERNATIVES TO
INCARCERATION AND NECESSARY
SOCIAL SERVICES. CITY OF
SEATTLE MUST USE ITS FUNDS IN A
RESPECTABLE MANNER. PLEASE DO
NOT SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION
AND VOTE NO ON COUNCIL BILL
120825. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, BREANNA. SORRY
FOR MISPRONOUNCING YOUR NAME.
NEXT WE HAVE ALBERTO ALVAREZ.
>> THANK YOU. NO TO A CONTRACT
WITH SCORE. THIS COUNCIL WILL
MAKE BEING HOMELESS A CRIME.
MAKING POVERTY A CRIME IS VILE
AND INHUMANE. NONVIOLENT DRUG
USERS DO NOT DESERVE TO BE
HAULED OFF TO SOME JAIL WHERE
THIS YEAR SIX PEOPLE HAVE DIED.
AT THE SAME TIME, WASTING MONEY
ON POLICE OVERTIME FOR THE ONE
HOUR ROUND-TRIP OUT OF THE
CITY. NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THE
INTAKE. CITY ATTORNEYS NEED TO
FOCUS ON ADJUDICATING VIOLENT
CRIMES. NO TO THIS CONTRACT. DO
BETTER, A LOT BETTER. I YIELD
MY TIME, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU ALBERTO. AFTER
THAT WE WILL TRY AND GO BACK TO
TO RANDY. YOU ARE UP.
>> CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I AM A CO-CHAIR ON THE
SEATTLE HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION. I WANT TO PRESENT
MY STRONG OPPOSITION FOR
COUNCIL BILL 120825. DEEPENING
THE CYCLE OF CRIMINALIZATION
FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE
RESIDENTS. THE LONG CHAMPION
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE IS. WE LEAD
WITH ONE OF THE FIRST PROGRAMS
IN THE COUNTRY. WE CONTINUE TO
FIGHT FOR EQUITABLE JUSTICE
REFORM. IN 2020 WE LAUNCHED
JUST CARE. WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN JAIL AND WE HAVE
SAVED MANY LIVES. THE ORDINANCE
SEEMS TO BE TAKING IT
BACKWARDS. IT IS REPEATEDLY
SHOWN ON THE LOCAL AND NATIONAL
LEVEL THAT THEY DO NOT CARE. WE
NEED TO CREATE WOUNDS THAT HEAL
INSTEAD OF SCARS. WE VOTE NO.
>> THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING BACK
TO RANDY BANNEKER. PLEASE PRESS
*6. RANDY, GO AHEAD. OKAY, WE
WILL TRY AGAIN LATER. NEXT UP
FOR THIS SET OF REMOTE
SPEAKERS. ALL OF HER MITTS GOT.
>> THANK YOU. CHAIR CADDO,
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, THANK
YOU, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP. KING COUNTY LET US
DOWN AND KING COUNTY SAYS THAT
THE JAIL IS CLOSED, THAT IS A
HUGE PROBLEM. THIS BEHAVIOR HAS
A REAL IMPACT ON OUR QUALITY OF
LIFE IN SEATTLE. OVER AND OVER
WE HEAR ABOUT BROKEN WINDOWS,
GRAFFITI AND OTHER BEHAVIOR. IT
IS TAKING A SEVERE TOLL ON
THEIR PROSPERITY. RESIDENTS
YOUNG AND OLD THROUGHOUT THE
CITY EXPERIENCE THREATENING
BEHAVIOR THAT MAKES THEM WISH
THEY NEVER LEFT THE HOUSE. WE
NEED TO SUPPORT ALTERNATIVES TO
KING COUNTY JAIL, THAT IS AN
IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU, ANDY. NEXT WE
WILL BE HAVING BACK TO IN
PERSON AND JEFF GRANVILLE WILL
BE UP FIRST. ALL OF HER, GO
AHEAD AND PRESS *6 AND YOU'RE
READY TO GO.
>> I AM A MEMBER OF A VERY
DIFFERENT SCORE AND I AM AN
ADVOCATE FOR NON-INCARCERATE
ALL PRACTICES. IN OPENING
REMARKS I HEARD A LOT ABOUT
COMPASSION AND I HEARD ABOUT
DIVERSION AND THE CHORES YOU
HAVE MADE OF LOCAL JAILS,
COUNCILMEMBER CATTLE AND AS
SOMEONE WHO HAS RECEIVED LESS
FRIENDLY TOURS, THEY ARE NOT AS
PROFESSIONAL AS YOU MAKE THEM
SEEN. I WILL SPARE EVERYONE
GOING OVER THE COUNTLESS DEATHS
THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THESE
FACILITIES. WE BRING UP CRIME
TO JUSTIFY DETENTION OFTEN. I
AM FROM SEATTLE. WALKING AROUND
I ALSO HAVE FEARS. FEAR DOES
NOT JUSTIFY THESE PRACTICES
WHEN WE ARE CUTTING PROGRAMS
THAT ARE DOING THAT KIND OF
WORK LIKE THE MENTAL HEALTH
FUNDING WITHOUT WAS PROMISED.
THE ONE SEATTLE WAY IS A
DANGEROUS FORM OF CONSENSUS
GOVERNING. I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE
THIS PERFORMATIVE INCARCERATED
BILL.
>> THANK YOU. NOW, JEFF
GRANVILLE.
>> HELLO, EVERYONE. I WOULD
LIKE TO SHARE THAT I AM
SCHEDULED TO WORK AT -- BETTER?
I AM HERE TO SHARE THAT I AM
SCHEDULED TO WORK AT BELLTOWN A
FEW DAYS A WEEK AT CONCEPT ONE.
WHEN I TRAVEL INTO THAT AREA ,
IT IS AN IMMEDIATE NIGHT AND
DAY FROM MOST OF THE PLACES IN
THE CITY WHICH YOU ARE AWARE
OF. THAT AREA REQUIRES EMERGENT
ATTENTION BEYOND THE SCOPE OF
THIS DEBATE AND VOTE. THOSE
AREAS NEED EMERGENT HELP. MORE
BUSINESSES WILL BE SHUT DOWN
AND MORE PEOPLE WILL LOSE LIFE
AND LIMB. ALL OF THIS IS
FOCUSING ON THE SYMPTOM OF A
DYSFUNCTIONAL SOCIETY WHERE
TRAUMA IS THE ROOT CAUSE AND
THE GATEWAY TO ALL DRUGS AND
MENTAL ILLNESS. UNTIL WE LOOK
AT DRAMA AS THE CAUSE UNTREATED
WE WILL SEE THE CYCLE REPEAT
OVER AND OVER AGAIN. FOUR DAYS
A WEEK I WORK IN THE MENTAL
HEALTH INDUSTRY. I SEE WHAT
HAPPENS AND THIS IS WHY WE NEED
TO FOCUS ON THIS TOPIC. NEXT UP
WE HAVE -- FOLLOWED BY SARAH
CLARK.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM
REPRESENTING THE ACLU OF
WASHINGTON URGING YOU TO NOT
MOVE FORWARD. PRETRIAL
DETENTION TO DISRUPT UNWANTED
BEHAVIORS IS A FALSE CHOICE.
THIS WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE
SAFETY OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE
INCARCERATED. PUBLIC SAFETY IS
NOT SERVED BY DESTABILIZING
PEOPLE. THE HARMS OF PRETRIAL
DETENTION FOR THOSE CHARGED
WITH NONVIOLENT MISDEMEANORS
ARE WELL DOCUMENTED. 1-2 DAYS
OF JAIL INCREASES THE RISK AND
LEADS TO WORSE HEALTH AND
HOUSING OUTCOMES. FEW DECISIONS
CARRY AS MUCH WEIGHT INTO
WHETHER TO INCARCERATE AN
INDIVIDUAL. THE CITY HAS A DUTY
TO PROTECT FROM HARM, AND
MENTAL WELL-BEING WHICH IS
CRITICAL. I URGE YOU TO EXAMINE
THE PRACTICALITY OF THE HANDOUT
TO PROVIDERS BEING PROVIDED AND
THE SUCCESS OF S.C.O.R.E.
WITHIN A FEW YEARS. THE SUPREME
COURT RULED THAT VIRTUAL COURT
HEARINGS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
THE ACLU WANTS TO REJECT THIS
PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE REBECCA
CLARK.
>> HELLO, I REPRESENT THE OVER
2500 MEMBERS OF THE
METROPOLITAN CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE. 80% WHICH ARE SMALL
BUSINESSES THAT HAVE STRUGGLED
TO KEEP UP WITH THE ADDITIONAL
COST OF THE SAFETY AND PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS THAT IS BROUGHT
TO THEIR DOORS. MANY STILL HAVE
NOT RECOVERED FINANCIALLY FROM
THE PANDEMIC. LAWS CURRENTLY ON
THE BOOKS ARE DESIGNED TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THESE PUBLIC
SAFETY CHALLENGES, THE CURRENT
SITUATION WITH THE KING COUNTY
JAIL DOES NOT PROVIDE THE
NECESSARY CAPACITY THE CITY
REQUIRES. THE MOST RECENT
INSTALLMENT OF THE INDEX WEEK
CONDUCTED IN SPRING, SEATTLE
VOTERS IDENTIFIED THAT PUBLIC
SAFETY IS A TOP CONCERN
IMPACTING THEIR QUALITY OF
LIFE. VOTERS WANT ACTION FROM
THE CITY TO ADDRESS THESE
FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES. EIGHT IN 10
BELIEVE THAT ADDRESSING
PROPERTY CRIME WILL IMPROVE
QUALITY OF LIFE. PLEASE SUPPORT
THIS PROPOSAL.
>> REBECCA SAYERS IS UP NEXT
FOLLOWED BY KATHLEEN BURROWS.
>> IT'S PAINFUL TO BE HERE
TODAY TALKING ABOUT THIS. I
HATE THE IDEA THAT I'M
ADVOCATING TO OPEN A PRIVATE
JAIL. I WANT TO SAY THAT IS THE
SOLUTION WE NEED RIGHT NOW.
I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT THESE
ISSUES. AND I HEAR A QUICK TO
ADVOCATE ON THE FUNDING CUTS
AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT
SHOULD BE DONE OR COULD BE
DONE. I CAN TELL YOU THIS. ON
MY WAY HERE, FROM MY HOME WHERE
I WAS WORKING FROM HOME, I'M
NOT THAT WEALTHY, I AM A SINGLE
WOMAN. I WAS WORKING TO HELP
SOME OF MY CLIENTS AND THEIR
NEIGHBORS PURSUE SOME OF THEIR
GOALS AND THAT IS IN MY WORK. I
COULD NOT GET OUT MY FRONT DOOR
OF MY BUILDING BECAUSE IT WAS
BLOCKED WITH PEOPLE SMOKING
FENTANYL. I SAID, PLEASE MOVE.
MOVE OUT OF OUR DOORWAY. AND
THEY SAID YOU MOVE OUT OF THE
DOORWAY. PEOPLE ON THE THIRD
AND PIKE CORE DOOR ARE
THREATENING AND IT IS SCARY.
EVERY DAY, MORNING NOON AND
NIGHT AND ALL I KNOW IS THAT IS
NOT OKAY. FOR US OR OUR CITY.
THANK YOU.
>> LAST UP FOR THIS SECTION IS
KATHLEEN BURROWS. FIRST UP
ENROLLMENT -- IN REMOTE
COMMENTERS WILL BE --
>> I LIVE IN DOWNTOWN BALLARD
AND I SEE THE DRUG USE, I JUST
SENT YOU A PHOTO OF WHAT I SAW
YESTERDAY IN FRONT OF THE
BALLOT BOX. I HAVE COMPASSION.
I CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
TRAUMA, THIS IS THE WAY OF THE
WORLD. IT'S BEEN THIS WAY IN
ALL OF RECORDED HISTORY. THE
NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF OUR CITY
GOVERNMENT IS TO KEEP THE
PUBLIC SAFE. MANY INDIVIDUALS
WHO COMMIT CRIMES ARE REPEAT
OFFENDERS. THOSE THAT COMMIT
MISDEMEANOR CRIMES SUCH AS
REPEAT SHOPLIFTING, GRAFFITI,
DESTRUCTION OF PERSONAL AND
PUBLIC PROPERTY, DANGEROUS
STREET RACING AND THE
PROSTITUTION AND CRIME THAT
COMES WITH A ON AURORA. IF
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT
INCARCERATED, HOW ARE THEY
GOING TO LEARN? WE NEED MORE
JAIL SPACE. IT IS SOMETHING
THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO KEEP
THE PUBLIC SAFE. YOU NEED THE
REVENUES FROM BUSINESSES TO
HELP PAY FOR THESE SERVICES. WE
ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER ON
THIS, THIS IS JUST THE WAY IT
IS. THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, GOING TO KIM WILL
GUARD. REMINDER TO PLEASE PRESS
*6.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON I AM THE
DISTRICT SERVICES MANAGER FOR
THE SEATTLE IMPROVEMENT AREA. I
WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR
AN ADDITIONAL JAIL AS A MEANS
TO FACILITATE PUBLIC SAFETY AND
ADDRESS THE SIGNIFICANT
PROPERTY CRIME IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE SEEN
ARRESTS OF PEOPLE FOR
BREAK-INS, VANDALISM, AND
ARSON. THE KING COUNTY JAIL
REFUSES TO ADMIT THEM. THEY ARE
BACK ON THE STREETS WITH THE
SAME BEHAVIOR WITHIN HOURS. THE
GOOD MEASURE, WHILE TEMPORARY
AS NECESSARY WELL THE CITY IS
EXPANDING AND REBUILDING AND
INVESTING IN PROGRAMS TO GET
PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE LEGAL
SYSTEM WHEN APPLICABLE. AND IT
WILL GO A LONG WAY IN SHOWING
THE CITY'S DEDICATION TO
PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIME
REDUCTION. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP, OF OUR REMOTE
COMMENTERS, KATIE, FOLLOWED BY
CHRIS ALLEN.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS KATIE AND
I HAVE EXPERIENCED HAVING A
RELATIONSHIP WITH UNSHELTERED
PEOPLE. I TREAT EVERYONE WITH
RESPECT AND COMPASSION. I HAVE
NEVER FELT UNSAFE BUT I AM
CONCERNED ABOUT EVERYONE BEING
SAFE AND HEALTHY. DO NOT INVEST
IN S.C.O.R.E.. NOTE TO
ORDINANCE 120825. JAIL DOES NOT
EQUATE TO JUSTICE. JUSTICE IS
WHAT LOVE LOOKS LIKE IN PUBLIC.
JAIL DOES NOT PREVENT VIOLENCE
AND IT DOES NOT HEAL PEOPLE.
JAILING PEOPLE WILL NOT KEEP
YOU SAFE. WE MUST ADDRESS THE
UNDERLYING ISSUES WHICH ARE
UNMET NEEDS, PERPETUATED BY
PROPERTY, LACK OF MENTAL HEALTH
AND SUBSTANCE USE ASSISTANCE.
UNFORTUNATELY WE LIVE UNDER
CAPITALISM WITH ONLY CARES
ABOUT PROFIT AND NOT PEOPLE.
THESE FACILITIES DO NOT PROVIDE
HEALING, RESOURCES, OR CARE
WHICH ARE THE BEST SOLUTIONS TO
REDUCE CRIME. DO NOT INVEST IN
CAGING PEOPLE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. UP NEXT WE HAVE
CHRIS ALLEN.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS CHRIS
ALLEN, I'M A FULL-TIME
RESIDENT AND I ENCOURAGE THE
COUNCIL TO VOTE YES ON THE
CONTRACT WITH S.C.O.R.E. .
ANYTIME I WALK OUT OF MY
APARTMENT, I SEE DRUG DEALING,
RAMPANT DRUG USE, THEFT, THIS
HAS COST MANY BUSINESSES TO
CLOSE IN THE AREA. FOR EXAMPLE,
I SHOPPED IN TARGET THE OTHER
DAY AND IT TOOK ME 12 MINUTES
TO GET A 15 DOLLAR BOTTLE OF
LAUNDRY DETERGENT BECAUSE IT
WAS LOCKED BEHIND PLEXIGLASS. I
FIND MYSELF SHOPPING MORE AND
MORE ONLINE BECAUSE OF THIS
WHICH REMOVES PRECIOUS BUSINESS
ACTIVITY IN BELLTOWN. FINALLY,
I'M A FIRM BELIEVER OF THE --
THE BELLTOWN HELLCAT WAS ON
YOUTUBE THE OTHER DAY TALKING
ABOUT WHY THE CITY IS COMING
AFTER ME FOR A LOUD CAR THAN
OTHER PEOPLE ARE DEALING DRUGS
AND COMMITTING THEFT. I AM IN
FAVOR OF THIS. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE TED HASTINGS
FOLLOWED BY KEITH MARTIN.
>> MY NAME IS TED HASTINGS AND
I AM A SEATTLE HOMEOWNER AND
FATHER OF TWO. SAFETY HAS BEEN
MY PRIME CONCERN RECENTLY. THE
CITY HAS TO DO BETTER. ISSUES
OF GOOD GOVERNANCE, COOPERATION
AND RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING. I
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE. FIRST
OF ALL WITH RESPONSIBLE
BUDGETING. I FEEL FOR THE FOLKS
THAT LIVE IN BELLTOWN.
VIOLENCE, SEXUAL ASSAULTS, IT
IS A TRAGEDY, IT'S REALLY A
SHAME. IF THIS LEGISLATION IS
PASSED, THOSE ARE THE THINGS
THAT POLICE ARE NOT GOING TO BE
DEALING WITH WHEN THEY ARE
DROPPING SHOPLIFTERS IN DES
MOINES. IN REGARDS TO
RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING, THIS IS
AN INTENSE STRAIN THAT WILL BE
PUT ON S.C.O.R.E.. IN REGARDS
TO COLLABORATION, COUNCILMEMBER
CADDELL SAID THAT HE NAMED THE
MAYOR AND CITY ATTORNEYS AS NOT
BEING IN FAVOR OF THIS. I SEE
THAT THE COUNCIL IS NOT WORKING
EFFECTIVELY WITH KING COUNTY.
THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE
EXCEPTIONS TO THE BOOKING
POLICY AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO
BULK NONVIOLENT MISDEMEANORS
AND THIS INCLUDES BELLTOWN AND
THE PIPELINE CORRIDOR. TALKING
ABOUT NEEDING TO PUT PEOPLE
INTO S.C.O.R.E..
>> THANK YOU, TED. NEXT UP WE
HAVE KEITH MARTIN.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE
STRATEGY TO CREATE MORE JAIL
CAPACITY. PLEASE VOTE YES. WE
NEED SAFER NEIGHBORHOODS. WE
HAVE AWFUL CRIME HAPPENING IN
SOME OF THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE
PUT INTO JAIL. WE NEED TO MAKE
BETTER DECISIONS ESPECIALLY IF
WE HAVE RE-ENTRY. THERE COULD
BE MORE DIAGNOSTICS TO HAPPEN
IN A RESULT OF THOSE. 70% OF
THE MEN IN OUR JAILS HAVE
TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURIES.
LET'S MAKE MORE PROGRESS THAN
WE ARE MAKING WITH SHORT-TERM
STAYS. FIRST WE NEED TO ENSURE
PUBLIC SAFETY FOR US. PLEASE
VOTE YES.
>> THANK YOU, NEXT WE HAVE
EMILY CRUMBBAKER.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS
EMILY . I SEE FIRSTHAND THE
NEGATIVE IMPACTS STEMMING FROM
THE LACK OF ENFORCING CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY AND ALLOWING
INDIVIDUALS TO LIVE ON THE
STREETS HERE. MY EMPLOYEES,
CHILDREN, AND I REGULARLY
WITNESS CRIME LIKE DRUG
DEALING, PROSTITUTION,
VANDALISM AND THEFT FROM
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MADE IT
CLEAR THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED
IN CITY PROGRAMS THAT HELP WITH
HOUSING AND REHABILITATION. OUR
PROPERTIES USE AS A PLACE TO DO
DRUGS AND GO TO THE BATHROOM.
WE EXPERIENCE FEAR AND
INTIMIDATION AND CONSISTENTLY
HAVE TO CLEAN UP AFTER THESE
UNSANITARY CONDITIONS.
CUSTOMERS DON'T FEEL SAFE
COMING HERE, WE DON'T WANT TO
RELOCATE. THESE ISSUES ARE
PERVASIVE AND AFFECT HOW MANY
FACETS ON HOW WE OPERATE. WE
URGE COUNCIL TO APPROVE. THANK
YOU.
>> NEXT WE HAVE COCO WEBER
FOLLOWED BY BJ LAST. COCO,
PLEASE PRESS *6.
>> HELLO, I AM A FORMER
SUBSTANCE USE COUNSELOR AND
HUNDREDS OF OUR COMMUNITY
MEMBERS HAVE TRIED TO
TRANSITION OUT OF THE EVICTION
CYCLE. THERE IS ONE FACTOR THAT
INDICATED WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS
SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING OUT OF
THE JAIL AND THAT WAS ACCESS TO
HOUSING. IF THEY SAY THEY
DON'T WANT SERVICES, IF YOU
ASK ONE PERSON WHO WAS LIVING
OUTSIDE WHO WILL SAY NO TO A
HOUSING MODEL. HOUSING FIRST
MODELS WORK. THEY ARE
EVIDENCE-BASED AND PROVEN .
FEAR MONGERING IS NOT. THE
PEOPLE YOU WANT TO PUT IN
GENERAL HAVE BEEN IN JAIL
BEFORE. PEOPLE ARE SCARED BUT
TRUST ME IT IS MORE DANGEROUS
FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING OUTSIDE
THAN THE PEOPLE WALKING BY THAT
ARE SCARED TO SEE THEM. WITH
HUNDREDS DYING IN KING COUNTY
EVERY DAY, THIS IS A PUBLIC
SAFETY CRISIS. OUR NEIGHBORS
NEED YOUR LEADERSHIP. PEOPLE
DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE PEOPLE
LIVING ON OUR STREETS. GIVE
THEM HOUSING. THERE IS A BAD
TRACK RECORD OF ANALYZING
PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING
WITHDRAWAL OR MENTAL ILLNESS
PROBLEMS. THEY ARE DOING THIS
NATIONALLY AND PROVIDE THE
LEAST AMOUNT OF SERVICE TO MAKE
THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY. IT IS
A REALLY BAD IDEA. THEY DO NOT
PROVIDE DETOX SERVICES. THEY DO
NOT PROVIDE DETOX SERVICES. YOU
ARE PUTTING PEOPLE IN A GRAVE
THREAT OF DEATH --
>> THANK YOU, COCO. NEXT UP WE
HAVE BJ LAST. GO AHEAD.
>> I AM CALLING IN AN
OPPOSITION OF THE NEW
S.C.O.R.E. CONTRACT. THIS WILL
COST $2 MILLION BETWEEN THE
COST OF THE CONTRACT ITSELF AND
IMAGINE HOW THERE IS ALWAYS
MORE MONEY FOR COPS. FUNDING
FOR MENTAL HEALTH FOR STUDENTS
AND SCHOOLS FROM 20 MILLION
DOWN TO 10 MILLION. IF YOU CUT
MONEY FOR SCHOOLS TO GIVE MONEY
FOR JAILS, THERE IS A REDUCTION
IN SHELTER DEATHS. WE ARE
SPENDING ON PRISON. WE DO NOT
PAY FOR PEOPLE TO BE SHELTERED,
WE JUST PAY TO ARREST THEM.
THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WANT
TO SEE THIS . A LOT OF THEM
WILL GET DISAPPEARED
PERMANENTLY. BUSINESS IS
SAYING, CRIME, THEFT, HOW ABOUT
YOU STOP STEALING FROM YOUR
WORKERS FIRST. THEY HAVE BEEN
CAUGHT MULTIPLE TIMES STEALING
FROM THEIR WORKERS OVER $1.5
MILLION OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS
IN THE EXACT SAME WAY. TARGET,
YOU HAVE NOT KICKED THAT OUT OF
YOUR BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
>> THANK YOU, BJ. NEXT WE HAVE
PETE HANNING. PETE, GO AHEAD
AND PRESS *6 TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF. THERE YOU GO.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR
KETTLE, MY NAME IS PETE HANNING
AND I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE FREMONT CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE. I'M CALLING IN TODAY
TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE CITY
OF SEATTLE TO GO INTO CONTRACT
WITH THE SOUTH CORRECTIONAL
ENTITY OR S.C.O.R.E..
MOM-AND-POP BUSINESSES ARE
BEGGING FOR HELP IN DEALING
WITH CONSTANT BREAK-INS AND
BLAINE SHOPLIFTING. THAT IS NOT
THE ONLY TOOL. WE NEED TO
REINTRODUCE CONSEQUENCES FOR
CRIMINAL ACTIONS. EVEN
MISDEMEANOR CHARGES HERE IN OUR
COMMUNITY. I URGE YOU TO VOTE
YES AND ADD THIS TOOL TO OUR
TOOLBOX. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT UP WE HAVE -- FOLLOWED BY
MICHAELA LINDEN. PLEASE PRESS
*6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> HI, PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS
BILL. INCARCERATION DOES NOT
ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY. IT IS A
MISGUIDED APPROACH SPECIFICALLY
TARGETING BLACK PEOPLE. IT'S
ABOUT PROFIT. THEY WANT TO
CONTINUE THE CYCLE OF
OPPRESSION. WE NEED MORE
PROGRAMS, SERVICES, AND
RESOURCES. NOT INCARCERATION.
IT IS NOT ONLY ILLOGICAL BUT
ALSO HARMFUL. WHEN THIS FAILS
AND PEOPLE DIE, AS IT WERE, AS
IT WILL, UNDOING THE DAMAGE BY
CRIMINALIZING THE COMMUNITY.
UNTIL WE THE PEOPLE REALIZE WE
HAVE THE POWER. THE FRUSTRATION
OF WHITE RESIDENTS TO NOT BE
ABLE TO ENJOY GENTRIFIED PARKS.
THEY WANT TO MOVE THESE
COMMUNITIES TO THE EDGES OF
SOCIETY. WE URGE YOU TO SAY NO
TO THE CONTRACT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MICHAELA IS NOT
PRESENT. WE WILL BE GOING TO KL
SHANNON FOLLOWED BY OUR LAST
REMOTE SPEAKER, SHANNON McCOY.
GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> UNTIL WE THE PEOPLE REALIZE
THAT WE HAVE THE POWER -- CAN
YOU HEAR ME? HELLO? I'M GOING.
MY NAME IS KL SHANNON. I AM NOT
IN SUPPORT OF THIS CONTRACT. I
DEMAND THAT CITY COUNCIL DO THE
RIGHT THING. VOTE NO ON THIS
S.C.O.R.E. CONTRACT. YOU CAN
PUT OUR TAX DOLLARS INTO
HOUSING, JOBS, AND MORE MENTAL
HEALTH RESOURCES. VOTE NO ON
THE S.C.O.R.E. CONTRACT. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU, KL. THE LAST
REMOTE SPEAKER, TIFFANY McCOY.
>> HELLO, THIS IS TIFFANY
McCOY. I AM THE RESIDENT OF
DISTRICT 1. I'M CALLING IN
STRONG OPPOSITION OF THE CITY
CONTRACT WITH S.C.O.R.E.. IT IS
IMPORTANT PUBLICLY TO SAY HOW
THIS CONTRACT IS GOING TO
CREATE ALL OF THE CONCERNS
LISTED IN THIS. HOW WILL THIS
REDUCE PROPERTY CRIME? WHEN WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE
INDIVIDUALS GOING TO JAIL OUT
OF THE CITY LIMITS FOR ONE DAY.
A FALSE IDEA OF SECURITY AND
SAFETY AND IT IS YOUR DUTY TO
TALK ABOUT HOW THIS IS WITHIN
YOUR LONG-TERM VISION. WHAT IS
THE COUNCIL DOING TO INCREASE
TINY HOUSE CENTERS, MENTAL
HEALTH CENTERS. ANYTHING BEYOND
INCARCERATION. MOST OF YOU ARE
MORE FOCUSED ON RELIVING THE
PAST. WE NEED TO GO BEYOND PAST
MODELS AND LOOK AT THE FUTURE.
PUTTING MONEY INTO HOUSING AND
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
>> THAT IS IT FOR THE REMOTE
SPEAKERS. OUR LAST TWO IN
PERSON SPEAKERS ARE CAROLYN
GAYLORD . CAROLYN, YOU ARE
FIRST.
>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
CAROLYN GAYLORD AND I AM A
RESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN SEATTLE
AND SECOND AVENUE. THIS IS A
COMPLICATED ISSUE, I UNDERSTAND
THAT. WE NEED SOME TOOLS. WE
NEED A COUPLE MORE STICKS. I
SEE DRUG DEALING AND TALK TO A
POLICEMAN AND THERE'S NOTHING
THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. HAVING A
COUPLE MORE STICKS WOULD BE
GREAT. THE OTHER ISSUE IS NOT
DOING ANYTHING, THEY ARE SO
MANY HIDDEN COSTS TO DO THAT.
RETAIL REVENUE, PROPERTY TAX
VALUES AND NOT TO MENTION THE
IMPACTS ON LIVES. IT'S NOT
PERFECT. NOTHING SEEMS TO BE
PERFECT. I WOULD RECOMMEND
MOVING AHEAD WITH ADDING
ADDITIONAL JAIL SPACE. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CAROLYN. LAST UP
IS AIDEN CAROL.
>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE
HIDDEN COSTS OF NOT PROVIDING
FREE HOUSING AS YOU MENTIONED
KNOWING ABOUT THE POLICE. THEY
ARE NOT ANIMALS. THIS IS ABOUT
HOMELESSNESS. LET'S KEEP IN
MIND WHO WE ENDANGER HERE.
THOSE ARE MOST ENDANGER ARE THE
ONES WHO DO NOT HAVE A PLACE TO
SLEEP. DO NOT COME OUT WITH ME
WITH OVERDOSES ARE A CHOICE.
OPEN YOUR EYES AND SHOW THE
DISABLED AND DESTITUTE SUMMER
RESPECT. I HAVE LOST A LOT OF
FRIENDS. LET PEOPLE CAMP IN
PEACE WHILE WE ARE SEEKING REAL
SOLUTIONS. THIS IS
OVERWHELMINGLY DISCRIMINATION
AGAINST PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES. WE DON'T FIT IN
YOUR BOXES AND SOCIAL NORMS AND
WE DON'T FIT IN YOUR PROPERTY
LINES. IF I WAS POOR I WOULD
LOOK JUST AS CRAZY AS THEY DO.
THIS IS ON YOU. YOU ARE THE
CRISIS.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
PUBLIC COMMENT HAS ENDED. I
JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS
FIRST. THANK YOU, I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS
AND I HEAR THEM AND OF COURSE I
WILL FACTOR THEM INTO THE
EXECUTIVE OVERSIGHT. I WOULD
LIKE TO SAY, I APPRECIATE
HEARING YOU IN YOUR OWN VOICE.
CONTRAST TO OTHER TIMES WHERE
IT IS REPEATING THE SAME
TALKING POINTS, I LOVE AND
APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE ARE
HEARING FROM YOU AND YOUR OWN
VOICE, IN YOUR OWN STORIES AND
THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I
ALSO APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE
SNAPS VERSUS COLLAPSE AND OTHER
OUTBURSTS. WITH THAT SAID, WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST
ITEM OF BUSINESS, WILL THE
CLERK READ ITEM ONE INTO THE
RECORD.
>> CB 120825 , AN ORDINANCE
RELATING TO JAIL SERVICES
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO
EXECUTE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT
WITH THE SOUTH CORRECTIONAL
ENTITY FOR THE PROVISION OF
JAIL SERVICES AND RATIFYING AND
CONFIRMING CERTAIN PRIOR ACTS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE
WELCOME MR. DOSS FROM THE
CENTRAL STAFF. MR. DOSS WILL
GIVE A PRESENTATION, EIGHT
SLIDES OR SO. WE WILL NOT HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS, WE WILL SAVE
THOSE QUESTIONS FOR MR.
MYERBERG AND THE MAYOR'S TEAM
WHEN THEY COME UP AFTER MR.
DOSS HAS COMPLETED HIS SECTION.
WITH THAT, MR. DOSS, OVER TO
YOU.
>> MY NAME IS GREG DOSS HERE TO
GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF COUNCIL
BILL 120825. THERE IS A CENTRAL
STAFF REPORT THAT GOES INTO
MUCH MORE DETAIL THAN I WILL
GIVE HERE IN THE PRESENTATION.
YOU CAN FIND THAT ATTACHED TO
THE AGENDA OR IT WAS EMAILED
OUT TO ALL MEMBERS LAST WEEK.
TO START OUT REAL QUICK WITH AN
OVERVIEW, COUNCIL BILL 120825
WOULD AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO
SECURE ADDITIONAL JAIL SERVICES
AT S.C.O.R.E.. I WILL MOVE TO
SLIDE ONE. LAST WEEK AT THE
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, FROM
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE PRESENTED .
MISDEMEANOR BOOKING
RESTRICTIONS ARE CURRENTLY
PREVENTING SPD OFFICERS FROM
BOOKING THOSE ARRESTED FOR MANY
NONVIOLENT MISDEMEANORS. THE
PRESENTERS ALL SAID THAT THE
JAIL SPACE IS A NECESSARY TOOL
FOR A FUNCTIONING LEGAL SYSTEM.
THIS SHOWS THE REDUCTION IN
JAIL BETTY USE AT THE KING
COUNTY JAIL AND THE BOOKING
RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE DESIGNED
SPECIFICALLY TO REDUCE THE
POPULATION OF THE JAIL. KING
COUNTY PUT THESE RESTRICTIONS
IN PLACE UNDER COVID TO REDUCE
THE POPULATION AND HAS TO KEEP
THEM IN PLACE DUE TO
CORRECTIONAL OFFICER SHORTAGES.
THE PRESENTATION LAST WEEK THE
CITY ATTORNEY NOTED THAT THIS
LIST UNDER BOOKING RESTRICTIONS
RESTRICTION SPD FROM ARRESTING
AND BRINGING TO JAIL FOLKS WHO
HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES SUCH AS
THEFT, TRESPASSING, HARASSMENT
AND OTHER CRIMES. MOVING TO THE
NEXT SLIDE. I GUESS I WILL DO
IT HERE. OKAY. WE WILL TALK
ABOUT THE PROPOSED USE OF
S.C.O.R.E.. AN AGREEMENT THAT
WILL HOUSE 20 MISDEMEANOR
DETAINEES WITH FLEXIBILITY FOR
FUTURE CHANGES. THE ILA THAT
WAS ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE
CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE THE
NUMBER 20 INCLUDED ON IT. THOSE
DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND S.C.O.R.E.
HAVE BEEN ONGOING. THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE WILL SUPPLY THE ILA THAT
HAS THE NUMBER 20 WRITTEN IN
UNDER JAIL BEDS TO THE COUNCIL
SOMETIME IN THE NEXT WEEK. SO
THAT CAN BE SWAPPED OUT WITH
THE AMENDMENT AND YOU CAN ADOPT
ONE THAT HAS THE NUMBER. THAT
IS A RESULT OF THE
CONVERSATIONS MOVING AS FAST AS
THEY HAVE BEEN. THE ORDINANCE
CONTAINS A NUMBER OF RECITALS
THAT OUTLINE THE ALTERNATIVES
TO THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM
INCLUDING THE PUBLIC USE AND
POSSESSION ORDINANCE. IT
IDENTIFIES A STAKEHOLDER
WORKGROUP PROCESS HAS BEEN USED
BY THE EXECUTIVE TO GUIDE ITS
EFFORTS WITH THE ILA. AND NOTES
THAT THE WORKGROUP PROCESS WILL
CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY SOLUTIONS
TO OPERATIONAL PROGRAMS AND TO
EVALUATE THE USE OF S.C.O.R.E..
NEXT SLIDE . A LITTLE
BACKGROUND ON S.C.O.R.E., A
GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY THAT WAS
FORMED BY THE CITIES NOTED
ABOVE. AUBURN, DES MOINES,
FEDERAL WAY, RENTON, AND THE
PROCEDURE IS -- S.C.O.R.E. IS
ACCREDITED BY THE NATIONAL
COMMISSION ON CORRECTIONAL
HEALTH CARE AS WELL AS THE
WASHINGTON STATE UNIVERSITY OF
SHERIFFS AND POLICE CHIEFS.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS
UNDER THE SECOND BULLET THERE.
ONE THAT DIFFERENTIATES
S.C.O.R.E. FROM OTHER JAILS, IT
HAS EMBEDDED TWO STAFFERS FROM
WESTERN STATE HOSPITAL, THE
PSYCHOLOGIST ALONG WITH LOCAL
SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE BUILT A
CONNECTION WITH THE STATE THAT
ALLOWS THOSE WHO ARE BEING HELD
FOR COMPETENCY EVALUATIONS TO
RECEIVE THOSE EVALUATIONS
QUICKER THAN IN OTHER
INCARCERATED SETTINGS THEN
USUALLY WITHIN 7-10 DAYS. FLIP
TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE
EXECUTIVE'S INTENDED USE FOR
S.C.O.R.E. IS TO HOUSE
MISDEMEANOR DETAINS FOR 24-48
HOURS AND THAT IS THE STATUTORY
MINIMUM BEFORE THEY MUST APPEAR
BEFORE THE COURT FOR A PROBABLE
CAUSE HEARING. THE CITY WANTS
TO TRANSPORT ALL DETAINEES FOR
THE FIRST APPEARANCE BEFORE THE
COURT. MOST FOLKS IN CUSTODY
WILL BE RELEASED BY A JUDGE
WITH BELL AT THAT FIRST
APPEARANCE. THE TRANSPORT OF
DETAINEES TO SEATTLE FOR A
FIRST HEARING WILL ENSURE THAT
THE DEFENDANTS ARE REPRESENTED
IN PERSON BY THEIR ATTORNEYS IN
THE CASE THAT A DEFENDANT IS
INDIGENT THEY WILL BE
REPRESENTED BY ATTORNEYS THAT
WORK FOR THE KING COUNTY
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC DEFENSE.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT A JUDGE
WILL DETERMINE THAT AN
INDIVIDUAL MUST BE HELD IN JAIL
FOR LONGER THAN 48 HOURS. THAT
COULD HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE IS A
COMPETENCY EVALUATION NEEDED.
WARRANTS FROM OTHER
JURISDICTIONS THAT REQUIRE THE
OFFENDER TO BE HELD. THEY ARE
REASONS WITHIN COURT RULES THAT
THE JUDGE MIGHT USED TO HOLD
THE OFFENDER. OR POTENTIAL
OFFENDER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
AS THE SLIDE INDICATES, THE
EXECUTIVE HAS SAID THAT SPD
WILL ONLY TAKE TO S.C.O.R.E.
THE MISDEMEANOR ARRESTEES WHO
FIT A SPECIFIC CRITERIA. THEY
ARE LISTED HERE IN THE BULLETS.
SPD OFFICERS WILL NEED TO
DETERMINE THAT A PERSON WILL
CREATE A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC
SAFETY IMPACT IF THEY ARE NOT
IMMEDIATELY INCARCERATED. THE
PERSON WILL ALSO BE UNLIKELY TO
BE RELEASED BY A SCREENER THAT
HAS THE POWER TO RELEASE A
DETAINEE BEFORE THEY APPEAR AT
THE FIRST HEARING. THE
EXECUTIVES HAVE SAID THEY WILL
DEVELOP CLEAR POLICIES ON WHICH
CRIMES AND DETAINEES MAY BE
BOOKED AT S.C.O.R.E.. FOLKS WHO
ARE PSYCHOLOGICALLY CLEARED.
THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT SPD
WOULD HAVE TO CALL TO PRESCREEN
THE FOLKS THEY WOULD HAVE TO
BRING DOWN THERE TO MAKE SURE
THEY WILL NOT RUNNING INTO A
BOOKING DECLINE SITUATION. NEXT
SLIDE. THE MAYORS WORKGROUP HAS
TURNED UP A NUMBER OF
OPERATIONAL ISSUES BEFORE SPD
CAN START TAKING ARRESTEES TO
S.C.O.R.E. THESE ARE DESCRIBED
IN MORE DETAIL IN THE STAFF
REPORT. I WILL NOT GO INTO TOO
MUCH DETAIL NOW. I WILL PROVIDE
A HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW AS WE
TALK ABOUT SPD WILL NEED TO
DEVELOP POLICIES ON WHO WILL BE
BROUGHT TO S.C.O.R.E..
TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM
S.C.O.R.E. TO THE KING COUNTY
JAIL AND SEATTLE JUSTICE CENTER
IS THE RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THE
ILA OF THE CONTRACTING
GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. IN THIS
CASE, SEATTLE. THE ONLY WAY
THAT SEATTLE COULD BRING
OFFENDERS OR POTENTIAL
OFFENDERS TO AND FROM THE KING
COUNTY JAIL OR THE JUSTICE
CENTER WOULD BE VIA SPD. IT IS
SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN IN
THE SHORT TERM AS THE EXECUTIVE
WORKS OUT SOME OTHER METHOD OF
TRANSPORT FOR THE FUTURE. EVEN
CONTRACTING WITH S.C.O.R.E.
ITSELF. THE NEXT ISSUE HAS TO
DO WITH DETAINEES BEING HELD AT
THE KING COUNTY JAIL OR JUSTICE
CENTER. THERE ARE SOME PRISONER
TRANSPORT ISSUES AND ALSO SOME
FACILITY ISSUES THAT MAKE
HOLDING CELLS A CHALLENGE. THAT
IS SOMETHING THAT THE EXECUTIVE
IS WORKING ON AND HOPEFULLY WE
WILL HAVE AN ANSWER SOON. THE
LAST LARGER ISSUE THAT THE
WORKGROUP IDENTIFIED HAS TO DO
WITH DATA EXCHANGES. OBVIOUSLY
WHEN A DETAINEE IS BEING HELD
BY S.C.O.R.E. THEY WILL NEED TO
RECEIVE NOTICE THAT PERSON WILL
BE RECEIVING A HEARING AT THE
MUNICIPAL COURT. THEY WILL HAVE
TO ARRANGE FOR TRANSPORT. THESE
CAN BE DONE BY COMPUTER SYSTEMS
THAT WILL ALLOW THE FACILITIES
TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER. UNTIL
THOSE EXCHANGES CAN BE CREATED,
YOU WILL HAVE TO BE DONE
MANUALLY. NEXT SLIDE. THERE ARE
A NUMBER OF PHYSICAL ISSUES
THAT ARE STILL BEING ADDRESSED.
AT A HIGH LEVEL, THE 2024
ADOPTED BUDGET FOR JAIL
SERVICES IS 22.4 MILLION. IT IS
THE CASE THAT THE EXECUTIVE HAS
IDENTIFIED $600,000 IN SAVINGS
IN THIS YEAR'S JAIL CONTRACT
THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE AMOUNT
THAT IS BUDGETED FOR THE JAIL
CONTRACT AND THE CITY'S USE OF
THE JAIL CONTRACT AND THE
$600,000 CAN BE APPLIED FOR
JAIL SERVICES FOR THE REST OF
THIS YEAR. MOST LIKELY IN THE
FALL AFTER THESE OPERATIONAL
ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
STARTING IN 2025, THE ANNUAL
COST FOR 20 BEDS IS $2 MILLION
PER YEAR. THAT ASSUMES A LOWER
CONTRACTING RATE FOR
TRANSPORTATION AND HOSPITAL
GUARDING IF INMATES NEED TO GO
TO THE HOSPITAL. AS I
MENTIONED, IN THE SHORT TERM,
IT WILL BE SPD WILL IS
TRANSFERRING FOLKS AND IF TWO
OFFICERS DID THAT TWO TIMES A
DAY, YOU ARE LOOKING AT
$262,000 IN COST. THERE IS
ANOTHER $3000 ESTIMATE FOR COST
ASSOCIATED WITH ADDING DATA
EXCHANGES I TALKED ABOUT A
MOMENT AGO. AND A TO BE
DETERMINED COST IS ADDITIONAL
STAFFING POTENTIALLY FOR A
WORKAROUND UNTIL THE SYSTEMS
CAN BE PUT UP IN PLACE. OR ALSO
FOR MARSHALL STAFFING AND
SUPPORT IF THAT IS NEEDED. AND
I MENTIONED FACILITY COST FOR
THE HOLDING CELLS FOR THE KING
COUNTY JAIL, ONE OF THOSE
FACILITIES SHOULD BE CONTRACTED
TO HOLD FOLKS. NEXT SLIDE. AS I
MENTIONED, THERE IS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO
AMEND THE CURRENT BILL AND
ATTACH A NEW ILA THAT WILL HAVE
THE NUMBER 20 AS THE NUMBER OF
GUARANTEED BEDS. THAT IS
SOMETHING THE EXECUTIVE IS
WILLING TO DO. OVER THE LAST
FEW MINUTES I'VE TALKED ABOUT
A NUMBER OF OPERATIONAL ISSUES
THAT THE WORKGROUP IS WORKING
TO ADDRESS. THE COUNCIL HAS A
NUMBER OF OPTIONS BEFORE THEY
AUTHORIZE THE ILA. ONE OF THEM
WOULD BE TO HOLD THIS BILL,
120825 UNTIL THE EXECUTIVE CAN
COME BACK AND PRESENT ANSWERS
TO THOSE OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS
AND A PLAN FOR HOW THEY ARE
GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. ANOTHER
WOULD BE PRIOR TO PASSING THE
BILL, THE COUNCIL CAN AMEND THE
BILL SO IT CAN REQUIRE THE
EXECUTIVE TO REPORT ON THESE
OPERATIONAL ISSUES IN A WAY
THAT WOULD BE MANDATORY BEFORE
DETAINEES GOT TAKEN TO
S.C.O.R.E. OR IN A WAY THAT IS
SUPPLEMENTAL TO THEIR
TRANSPORT. OR FINALLY, THE
COUNCIL CAN PASS THE BILL
WITHOUT AMENDMENT. THOSE ARE
THE OPTIONS YOU WILL FACE WITH
120825. THAT IS MY HIGH-LEVEL
PRESENTATION. THE STAFF REPORT
GOES INTO MORE DETAIL AND WITH
THAT, I THINK THE EXECUTIVE
MIGHT BE BEST SUITED TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS. THIS PROCESS HAS
BEEN MOVING AND IS MOVING
QUICKLY AND MANY OF THE ISSUES
THAT I HAVE RAISED HERE, THEY
MAY ALREADY HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS
TO.
>> THANK YOU, MR. DOSS, I
APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION
ADDRESSING THE BASIC POINTS OF
THIS. THANK YOU ALSO FOR
ADDRESSING THE ONE QUESTION
THAT HAS COME UP AGAIN AND
AGAIN. S.C.O.R.E. IS NOT A
PRIVATE JAIL. THANK YOU FOR
CLEARING THAT UP. I WOULD LIKE
TO INTRODUCE THE MAYORS TEAM.
THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY
AND MS. SMITH. MR. DOSS IF YOU
LIKE, YOU CAN STAY WITH THEM. I
LOOK FORWARD TO THE
PRESENTATION FROM THE MAYORS
TEAM. WHEN YOU'RE READY.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON,
COUNCILMEMBERS. THANK YOU,
CHAIR KETTLE FOR ENJOYING --
INVITING US HERE TODAY. I ALSO
WANT TO THANK GREG DOSS AND
YOUR TEAM AT CENTRAL STAFF FOR
BEING AT THE MEETINGS AND
TURNING YOUR WORKAROUND WITH
SUCH SHORT NOTICE. THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE TO YOUR
STAFF HAVE BEEN ESSENTIAL
PARTNERS IN THIS WORK. THANK
YOU AGAIN. OUR ADMINISTRATION
BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED
APPROACH IS THROUGH DIVERSION
AND TREATMENT. MANY OF THE
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ENGAGED IN
THIS TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
SUFFER FROM MENTAL ILLNESS,
ADDICTION AND HOUSING
INSTABILITY. WE HAVE INVESTED
HEAVILY IN APPROACHES AND
PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE OUTREACH,
CASEWORK, AND ACCESS TO LOW
BARRIER DRUG TREATMENTS TO HELP
ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES AND
MINIMIZE THE INVOLVEMENT OF
THESE INDIVIDUALS IN THE LEGAL
SYSTEM OVER THE LONG-TERM. WE
KNOW THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN
THIS APPROACH IS NOT WORKING OR
THE CONDUCT ISSUES FURTHER
INTERVENTION. OFFICERS NEED TO
MAKE ARRESTS WHEN APPROPRIATE
AND FOR A BROADER SET OF
OFFENSES. TO THIS END, THE
MAYORS OFFICE, ALONG WITH OUR
PARTNERS HERE AND AT THE COUNTY
LEVEL I'VE BEEN WORKING ON A
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TOOLS TO
PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH
MORE AND BETTER APPROACHES TO
THESE SITUATIONS. WHEN THE
ALTERNATIVE APPROACH OR
RESPONSE IS NOT FEASIBLE OR IS
NOT WORKING. ONE OF THESE TOOLS
THAT THE MAYORS OFFICE HAS
WORKED ON IS ADDITIONAL JAIL
BEDS FOR THE EXISTING KING
COUNTY RESOURCES. THE MAYORS
OFFICE BEGAN PARTNERING WITH
OTHER JAIL FACILITIES FOR
SUPPLEMENTAL BEDS. WE LOOKED AT
REGIONAL FACILITIES AND LANDED
ON TWO. S.C.O.R.E. WHICH IS A
FACILITY THAT SERVES FIVE
CITIES. IN JUNE WE HAD A
STAKEHOLDER WORKGROUP. WE ALSO
BEGAN ENGAGING WITH LABOR
UNIONS THAT CAN BE IMPACTED BY
THE CONTRACT WITHIN THE JAIL
FACILITY. THE GOAL OF THE
MEETINGS WAS TO HEAR AND
UNDERSTAND CONCERNS, MINIMIZE
THE IMPACT OF THE CONTRACT WITH
A NEW JAIL FACILITY ON THESE
PARTNERS AND MITIGATE THE
POTENTIAL HARMS TO THOSE THAT
WILL BE INCARCERATED IN THESE
NEW FACILITIES. OVER THREE
MEETINGS AND ONE-ON-ONE
DISCUSSIONS, WE WORK TO
IDENTIFY OPERATIONAL CONCERNS.
SEATTLE HAS CONTRACTED WITH
THOSE OTHER THAN THE KING
COUNTY JAIL. WE DID A CONTRACT
AS A SUPPLEMENT TO THE KING
COUNTY JAIL. WE KNEW THAT THERE
WERE NEW ISSUES THAT WOULD HAVE
TO BE EVALUATED AND MUSCLE
MEMORY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE
REBUILT GIVEN THE POST-PANDEMIC
LANDSCAPE. THE MAYORS OFFICE
DETERMINED THAT S.C.O.R.E. IS
THE MOST VIABLE OPTION AT THIS
TIME. BASED ON FOURS OF THE
FACILITY, REVIEW OF THE
FACILITIES OFFERED, TREATMENT
AVAILABLE AND THE ABILITY TO
SERVE OUR SPECIFIC POPULATION.
AS A RESULT, WE CREATED A
CONFERENCE OF LIST OF
OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS WE
NEEDED TO RESOLVE PRIOR TO
MOVING FORWARD WITH S.C.O.R.E..
THERE ARE SOME THAT REMAIN
OUTSTANDING. WE WILL BE ABLE TO
ADDRESS THESE REMAINING ISSUES
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR
STAKEHOLDERS. WE WILL NOT BEGIN
BOOKING INDIVIDUALS UNTIL THIS
ISSUE IS RESOLVED. THERE WERE
PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCES .
SOME BELIEVE THAT NO
MISDEMEANORS SHOULD BE SUBJECT
TO BOOKING. WE NEED FLEXIBILITY
AROUND THE JAIL. WE NEED TO
ENFORCE THE LAW. THE COMPLEX
HUMAN CAUSES OF INCARCERATION.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DR.
ANDERSON.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBERS FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO THIS
ISSUE TODAY. IT BEARS REPEATING
TO UNDERSCORE THE INVESTMENTS
THAT SHOW THE MAYORS COMMITMENT
IN INVESTING IN PUBLIC HEALTH
STRATEGIES TO COMBAT THE PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS WE HAVE IN THE
CITY. TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN APPROACHES THAT ARE
UPSTREAM, CHAMPION OUTREACH AND
DIVERSION, ALTERNATIVE POLICE
RESPONSE AND CARE TEAMS TO
TREAT THE UNDERLYING ISSUES
THAT CONTRIBUTE TO CRIMINAL
BEHAVIOR. I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY.
WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY ASKING
FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THIS.
WHY WE CANNOT CONTINUE WITH THE
CURRENT STATUS QUO. WE ARE
MINDFUL OF THE JAIL STAFFING
NUMBERS. EVEN WITH THIS
PROPOSAL, THE CITY'S ACCESS TO
JAIL BEDS HAS BEEN THE LOWEST
SINCE 2019. FOR ALL OF THE
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM TO WORK,
EACH COMPONENT MUST BE WORKING.
WRAPAROUND CASE MANAGEMENT,
SERVICES, ON-DEMAND HOUSING AND
PRIORITIZING ALTERNATIVE
RESPONSE. WHENEVER POSSIBLE,
DIVERTING PEOPLE FROM THE
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM TO
ADDRESS UNDERLYING NEEDS
THROUGH TREATMENT AND HUMAN
SERVICES. WE NEED FLEXIBILITY,
CAPACITY, AND STABILITY TO
PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE NUMBER OF
JAIL BEDS. THE CURRENT LEGAL
SYSTEM DOES HAVE A FULL
FUNCTIONING JAIL WHEN
ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. THERE IS
AN URGENT DEMAND FOR SOLUTIONS
FROM THE COMMUNITY. INCLUDING
OUTREACH, ALTERNATIVE TREATMENT
OPTIONS, AND NOT EVERYONE IS
READY TO ACCEPT AND VOLUNTEER
FOR THOSE SERVICES. WHEN THOSE
INDIVIDUALS CONTINUE AND IMPACT
OUR RESIDENCE, AND FOR THEIR
IMPACT ON SMALL AND LARGE
BUSINESSES REPEATEDLY WITH NO
REPERCUSSIONS OR IMMEDIATE
DESIRE TO ENGAGE IN THE
ALTERNATIVES. LAW ENFORCEMENT
MUST HAVE THE ABILITY TO
INTERVENE AND BE ABLE TO REMOVE
SOMEBODY THAT IS CAUSING
REPEATED AND IMMEDIATE HARM. IT
ALSO BEARS REPEATING THAT
ARRESTING INDIVIDUALS IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT IS SEEN AS THE
BEST OR IDEAL OUTCOME. WE
ABSOLUTELY NEED THE ABILITY TO
DO THAT IF OTHER INTERVENTIONS
CEASE TO HAVE IMPACT. WE MUST
LISTEN AND BE MINDFUL TO ALL OF
OUR COMMUNITY, THOSE CAUSING
THE HARM AND THOSE IN DURING
THE HARM. WE CANNOT ALLOW FOR
THERE TO BE LIMITED TO NO
IMMEDIATE INTERVENTIONS FOR
INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN
CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR IN A WAY THAT
THREATENS AND ENDANGERS MEMBERS
OF OUR COMMUNITY. THERE
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT READY
TO ACCEPT THOSE SERVICES AND
REFUSE ASSISTANCE AND THAT IS
CONCERNING. WHAT WE CANNOT
ACCEPT IS WHEN THEY ARE
UNWILLING TO ENGAGE AND ACCEPT
THOSE SERVICES AND CONTINUE
WITH ILLEGAL AND UNSAFE
BEHAVIOR THAT HARMS OTHERS. IT
IS WELL KNOWN TO EVERYBODY IN
THIS ROOM THAT IT TAKES TIME
FOR PEOPLE TO BE READY FOR
CHANGE AND ENGAGE IN SERVICES
AND ENGAGE WITH TREATMENT. WHEN
YOU ARE A RESIDENT, BUSINESS
OWNER, PERSON WALKING THE
DOWNTOWN OR ANY AREA IN SEATTLE
AND YOU ARE INUNDATED WITH
CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR HAPPENING TO
YOU OR YOUR PROPERTY OR YOUR
BUSINESS ON A MONTHLY, WEEKLY,
DAILY, OR GIVEN MULTIPLE TIMES
A DAY. HOW LONG CAN WE ASK
COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE BEING
HARMED, DAILY, TO WAIT? BEFORE
THEY BECOME COMPASSION FATIGUE?
I WANT WE ASKED THEM TO TAKE
FINANCIAL LOSSES OR PROPERTY
WHILE WE WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO
ENGAGE WITH SERVICES? THERE
MUST BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
PROVIDE IMMEDIATE, TEMPORARY
RELIEF. RESPITE, SO WE CAN ASK
OTHER PATIENTS. THIS WILL GIVE
THE CITY WHAT IT NEEDS, OPTIONS
AND TOOLS TO BE FLEXIBLE AND
RESPONSIVE TO ALL COMMUNITY
CONCERNS. TAKING INTO
CONSIDERATION THE CURRENT
STAFFING AT THE KING COUNTY
JAIL. WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR
PARTICIPATION TO HELP THE
MAYORS OFFICE MINIMIZE THE
OPERATIONAL IMPACTS. IN
ADDITION THE CITY WILL CREATE
POLICY GUIDANCE FOR INDIVIDUALS
BEING BOOKED INTO S.C.O.R.E.. I
WANT TO ANSWER SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS THAT ARE RAISED TO
THE OPERATIONAL WORKGROUPS. NO
DEATH IS ACCEPTABLE.
SPECIFICALLY THOSE THAT ARE
HOUSED IN OUR JAIL. S.C.O.R.E.
HAS REPORTED THEY HAVE HAD 12
DEATHS SINCE 2011 SINCE THEY
OPENED. WE HAVE HAD DEATHS ALSO
AT OTHER FACILITIES ALL OVER
THE STATE AND WITHIN KING
COUNTY. THE DEATH OF ANYONE IN
THE JAIL FACILITIES IS TRAGIC
AND WE MUST REMAIN VIGILANT TO
ENSURE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY IS
OUR TOP PRIORITY. WE MUST
PRIORITIZE THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN
OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE SEEING
PEOPLE MORE ENTRENCHED IN
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER AND
PHYSICAL WELL-BEING THAN WE
HAVE EVER SEEN. WE ARE SEEING
INDIVIDUALS DIE FROM OVERDOSE
IN OUR STREETS AND WE ARE EVEN
SEEING PEOPLE WHO WE HAVE
PROVIDED HOUSING AS A FIRST
MODEL IN SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DIE
IN HOUSING. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR
US TO CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO
THOSE SAFETY CONCERNS WITHIN
OUR FACILITY AND OUR GOAL IS TO
CONTINUE TO ASSESS HOW THIS IS
WORKING, CONTINUE THE
STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS SO THAT WE
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE
STAKEHOLDERS AND HEAR THEIR
FEEDBACK. NOT ONLY IN
OPERATIONAL CONCERNS BUT IN
THEIR SAFETY CONCERNS. THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR.
MYERBERG AND DR.
WALTON-ANDERSON. WILL NOW TURN
TO QUESTIONS AS IS STANDARD
PRACTICE. I ALWAYS START WITH
MY VICE CHAIR AND WE WILL GO TO
OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND
ALSO THE COMMITTEE CAN ALWAYS
BE A SELECT COMMITTEE AND WE
ALSO HAVE COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES. MR. VICE CHAIR?
>> THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIR.
THANK YOU, MR. DOSS , DIRECTORS
MYERBERG AND SARAH AS WELL FOR
JOINING US ON THIS PRESENTATION
AND THE UNDERLYING WORK THAT
WENT INTO ALL OF THIS. THANK
YOU, GREG, I DID READ YOUR
COMPREHENSIVE STAFF MEMBER MOLE
GUIDE HERE. STICKY NOTES,
HIGHLIGHTED IT, READ ALL OF THE
ATTACHMENTS. IF YOU LOOK THERE
WAS AN ATTACHMENT TO AN
ATTACHMENT SOMEWHERE.
>> I'M SORRY.
>> YEAH, YEAH. GOOD STUFF. IT
WAS AN ENTHRALLING READING TO
DO IN FRONT OF THE TV WATCHING
THE OLYMPICS AND SIMONE BILES
AND TEAM USA WIN GOLD LAST
NIGHT. IT'S A GOOD MEMO AND I
APPRECIATE IT. GLAD TO HEAR
THERE IS HISTORICAL PRECEDENT
FOR THIS. IN THE MEMO ON THE
VERY FIRST PAGE, YOU MENTION IN
THE DECADE PRECEDING THE 2020
COVID EPIDEMIC, THE CITY WHEN
AT TIMES WILL UTILIZE ALL OF
THE CASEY J MISDEMEANOR JAIL
BEDS AND WILL SECURE ADDITIONAL
BEDS THROUGH SUPPLEMENTAL
CONTRACTS WITH OTHER JAIL
SERVICE PROVIDERS INCLUDING
YAKIMA COUNTY AND S.C.O.R.E..
DIRECTOR MYERBERG YOU TALKED A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AS WELL
AS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE A
LITTLE BIT IN 2017. THERE IS A
HISTORICAL PRECEDENT. CLEARLY A
HISTORICAL PRECEDENT FOR THIS.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A LITTLE
BIT MORE. WE KNOW THAT TO BE A
FACT. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE
IN PRIOR YEARS, PRE-COVID. I
URGE YOU MENTIONED ATROPHY AND
LACK OF MUSCLE MEMORY. WHAT DID
IMPLEMENTATION OF SIMILAR
CONTRACTING LOOK LIKE
PRE-COVID? HOW DID YOU OVERCOME
THE CHALLENGES? AT THE TIME?
>> WHAT I WILL SAY,
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, THIS WAS
SOME TIME AGO, THE CONFLICT
ENDED IN 2017. IT WAS COMMENCED
WELL BEFORE THAT IN 2012. WE
DID USE THE UNDERLYING
DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS ADVANCED
AS FAR AS THE CONTRACT WENT
WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING OUR
CONTRACTS. LOOKING AT THE ILA.
AS FAR AS THE PROCEDURAL
HURDLES THAT WENT IN, I CAN'T
SPEAK TO THEM HERE TODAY. WHAT
I WILL SAY, IS THAT THIS WAS
NOT A CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC AT
THAT POINT. THERE WAS AN
UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS A
NEED FOR JAIL BEDS. AT THAT
POINT, THEY WERE SUBSTANTIALLY
ABOVE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
EVEN WITH THESE SUPPLEMENTAL
JAIL BEDS, THE NUMBER WOULD BE
AROUND 105. IT IS BELOW WHERE
WE WERE PRE-PANDEMIC. WHAT I
MENTIONED WITH MUSCLE MEMORY, A
LOT OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
ENTITIES HAVE BEEN USED TO THE
KING COUNTY JAIL FACILITY. WE
LIKE THE KING COUNTY JAIL
FACILITY. WE HAVE A GREAT
PARTNERSHIP WITH KING COUNTY
THAT IS CONVENIENT. WHAT WE
NEED TO DO IS BUILD OUT A SUITE
OF OPTIONS. AND THAT INVOLVES
HAVING SOME AGENCIES THINK
THROUGH THE PROCEDURAL
OPERATIONAL ISSUES. WE HAVE
BEEN PLEASED WITH THE FEEDBACK
WE GOT FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND
THEIR ABILITY TO ENGAGE AND
IDENTIFY THOSE PROBLEMS.
>> THANK YOU. YOU NOTED IT WAS
NOT PARTICULARLY CONTROVERSIAL
AT THE TIME? GRANTED, I
DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND YOU ARE
NOT INVOLVED IN THE EXECUTIVE
AT THE TIME. IT PREDATES
ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION. DO YOU
KNOW, DID NOT REQUIRE COUNCIL
APPROVAL IF THERE IS AN ILA
INVOLVED, I IMAGINE IT DID.
>> IT DID NOT REQUIRE APPROVAL
FROM THE COUNTY AS WELL. FROM
BOTH SIDES OF THE COUNCIL.
>> RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS
TIME. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.
>> NOW LOOKING OVER TO MY
COLLEAGUES TO THE RIGHT. ANY
QUESTIONS?
>> OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> I HAVE A NUMBER OF
QUESTIONS, THANK YOU ALL FOR
THIS PRESENTATION. IT WAS A
VERY COMPLEX AND NUANCED
MATERIAL, I APPRECIATE ALL OF
THIS. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN COVERED.
WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING A
CONTRACT WITH KING COUNTY THAT
IS FOR HOW MANY BEDS?
>> JUST UNDER 200.
>> OKAY. BASICALLY, GIVEN THE
BOOKING RESTRICTIONS, WE ARE
ABLE TO BOOK ABOUT 75, 80 OF
THOSE BEDS?
>> THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BOOKED
RIGHT NOW. YES.
>> OKAY.
>> WE ARE ASKING FOR 20 BEDS
THAT S.C.O.R.E.?
>> 11 IS THE EXECUTIVE ANSWER
TO THAT QUESTION.
>> THAT IS CORRECT,
COUNCILMEMBER.
>> WE ARE JUST ASKING TO FILL
THE BEDS AT S.C.O.R.E. THAT WE
ARE CONTRACTUALLY ABLE TO FILL
IN KING COUNTY BUT FOR THE
BOOKING RESTRICTIONS.
>> THAT IS CRACKED. THE
ORDINANCE IS SELF DOES
AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
TO BOOK MORE THAN THE
GUARANTEED MINIMUM BED. THEY
WOULD BE ABLE TO BOOK MORE THAN
20. I THINK IN DISCUSSIONS AT
THE WORK GROUP HAS HAD. THAT
NUMBER OF 20, IT MIGHT BE A
20-30 AND IT MAY GO A LITTLE
HIGHER DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS
OF THE CITY.
>> IS AT ANTICIPATED HE WILL GO
OVER THE 200 WE ARE ALREADY
PAYING FOR AT KING COUNTY?
>> NO.
>> WE ARE HAVING TO UTILIZE THE
SERVICES FOR THE BEDS WE ARE
ALREADY PAYING FOR FOR KING
COUNTY WITH S.C.O.R.E.. WE ARE
NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL JAIL
BEDS, CORRECT?
>> THE TOTAL NUMBER OF JAIL
BEDS WILL NOT BE OVER THE
MINIMUM BED FLOOR THAT IS
CURRENTLY IN THE KING COUNTY
JAIL. WE WILL NOT BE ABOVE, IN
TOTAL, 195 BEDS.
>> OKAY. JUST NOTE THAT THE
PRIOR COUNSELING 2019 SET A
POLICY DECISION WE SHOULD NOT
GO OVER 180 BEDS. WE ARE WELL
WITHIN THAT RANGE OF THE POLICY
DECISION AND WE HAVE BEEN WAY
BELOW THE STANDARD SET BY THE
PRIOR COUNCIL OF 180 BEDS. THE
OTHER THING I'M INTERESTED IN,
THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE
AT S.C.O.R.E., YOU TALK ABOUT
HAVING MEDICATION OLD TREATMENT
PROGRAMS THERE THERE IS ALSO A
TRUE BLOOD PROGRAM, ARE THEY
AVAILABLE CURRENTLY I KING
COUNTY?
>> I WILL PASS THIS OFF TO
DIRECTOR WALTON-ANDERSON AS
WELL. THERE IS MEDICATION AT
KING COUNTY, THIS IS UNIQUE TO
S.C.O.R.E..
>> THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. S.C.O.R.E.
DOES HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT
MEDICAL ASSISTANT TREATMENT
OPTIONS. PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO BE
IN USED THERE. THEY DO HAVE THE
NAVIGATOR PROGRAM AND ALSO THEY
HAVE DONE THE TRUE BLOOD PILATE
TO HELP PEOPLE NOT DECOMPENSATE
WHILE THEY ARE THERE. ONE THING
TO POINT OUT IS THAT ALL
SERVICES ARE VOLUNTARY. I DO
BELIEVE THAT THE SERVICE
PROVIDERS THAT ARE THERE DO --
ARE ASSESSING PEOPLE ASKING IF
THEY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THOSE SERVICES, IT IS STILL
VOLUNTARY JUST LIKE ENGAGING IN
SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY AND
FOR THE SERVICES AT THE KING
COUNTY JAIL.
>> THERE IS AN ACTIVE
MEDICATION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
SO PEOPLE COULD GET STARTED ON
SUBOXONE?
>> YES, THEY HAVE MEDICAL
ASSISTANT TREATMENT, NOT ONLY
THAT, DETOX MONITORING OPERATED
BY WAY OF EVALUATION FOR
OPIOIDS, ALCOHOL AND ALSO FOR
BENZODIAZEPINES AS WELL. THEY
HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE PEOPLE
START MEDICATED ASSISTANT
TREATMENT THERE. I HAVE VISITED
A S.C.O.R.E. FACILITY TWICE IN
THE LAST MONTH. CAN PEOPLE
ACTUALLY ACCESS SERVICES IF
THAT IS THEIR BOOKING AND THE
ANSWER HAS BEEN YES. AGAIN,
REMINDED THAT THOSE SERVICES
ARE VOLUNTARY. WE CANNOT FORCE
PEOPLE TO ENGAGE IN TREATMENT
AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GEL
REALLY SERVICES WE ARE
CONTRACTING AND ASKING
S.C.O.R.E. TO PROVIDE. BE
REALLY SERVICES WERE NOT
CONTEMPLATED CONTRACTING WITH
THE FELONY PILOT. I WANT TO
POINT OUT THAT DISTINCTION.
>> OKAY.
>> I WENT OUT A LITTLE BIT TO
THAT. ONE OF THE PIECES OF
FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED WAS
EXACTLY THE POINT THAT YOU
RAISED. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE
STAKEHOLDERS THAT THERE BE
AVAILABILITY OF MEDICATION
STARTS. MENTAL HEALTH
INTERVENTIONS. THAT WAS ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WE TOOK BACK TO
S.C.O.R.E. AND WE WERE CLEAR
WITH THEM THAT WE WANTED THIS
TO BE PART OF THE CONTRACT. WE
WANTED SEATTLE FOLKS TO BE
ELIGIBLE FOR THESE PROGRAMS.
THEIR EXHIBITS AT THE BACKEND
THAT ACTUALLY CALL THESE OUT
DIRECTLY, THESE PROGRAMS YOU
HAVE MENTIONED. AGAIN, IT IS
VERY IMPORTANT TO US. IF WE ARE
GOING TO USE THE JAIL, WE WANT
TO USE IT AS A MEANS TO
INTERRUPT AND GET PEOPLE ON
MEDICATION AND TO WORK WITH OUR
PARTNERS IN OTHER PLACES TO
HAVE A HANDOFF TO TRANSITION
FOLKS NOT UNDER A HIGHWAY, BUT
TO A SOCIAL SERVICES PROVIDER.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE
HEARD DURING THE STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS.
>> THERE WILL BE A WARM
HANDOFF?
>> YES.
>> THIS IS ACTUALLY AN
OPPORTUNITY TO GET PEOPLE
STARTED ON MEDICATION. WE HAVE
A NUMBER FACILITIES THAT CAN
WORK WITH PEOPLE ON METHADONE
AND SUBOXONE. I WANT TO MAKE
THIS LAST POINT HERE, JAIL IS
NOT THE BEST OPTION. YOU KNOW
WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING?
INVOLUNTARY TREATMENT FOR
SUBSTANCE USE. WE HAVE A
FACILITY IN KING COUNTY FULL OF
NON-KING COUNTY PEOPLE. BECAUSE
THE HOSPITALS ARE UNWILLING TO
CALL THE DCR TO GET SOMEBODY
DETAINED BECAUSE THEY ARE
GRAVELY DISABLED DUE TO TO
SUBSTANCE USE. NOBODY WANTS TO
TALK ABOUT THIS. WE NEED TO BE
GETTING PEOPLE INTO TREATMENT
INVOLUNTARILY. BECAUSE THEY ARE
NOT ABLE TO MAKE A RATIONAL
DECISION WHEN THEY ARE UNDER
THE ADDICTION OF FENTANYL. IT
TAKES 20-30 DAYS TO REALLY GET
THAT CLEARED FROM YOUR SYSTEM
AND BE ABLE TO ENGAGE IN
RATIONAL DECISIONS. I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE NOT ONLY THE JAIL,
WHICH WE HAVE NOTED AS
BASICALLY GETTING A FEW EXTRA
BEDS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PAID
FOR, WE ALSO NEED TO BE LOOKING
AT WAYS TO GET HOSPITALS TO DO
THEIR JOB AND WE NEED TO BE
EXPANDING INVOLUNTARY TREATMENT
SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WE SEE ON
THIRD AND PIKE THAT ARE
OBVIOUSLY VERY DISABLED, THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. TO THE LAST POINT THAT
SHE MADE, THE TWO WORDS,
SERVICE PROVIDERS SAY THAT TO
ME QUIETLY IN A MEETING, IT'S
NOT REALLY IN THE PUBLIC
DOMAIN. WE SHOULD HAVE A
THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION ON THE
TOPIC MOVING FORWARD. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS? WE HAVE GONE THROUGH
THE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES? OVER TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME, THANK
YOU, CHAIR. SO, I WANT TO START
BY SAYING THAT ORIGINALLY, I
THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT NEEDING MORE
JAIL SPACE AND MORE BEDS. AS
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE HAS
MENTIONED AND AS WE HAVE HEARD,
THAT DOES NOT REALLY SEEM TO BE
THE POINT HERE, IT REALLY IS
ABOUT ALLOWING FOR SITUATIONS
THAT MAY WARRANT ARREST. IF
THAT IS THE CASE, THERE ARE
THREE SEPARATE ISSUES I WOULD
LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT. IF
THAT IS THE CASE, AND WE KNOW
THAT THE KING COUNTY JAIL HAS
ALREADY LIFTED SOME
RESTRICTIONS, WHY NOT JUST
CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS THERE ?
INSTEAD OF CREATING THIS WHOLE
NEW SYSTEM AND ALL OF THE COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH IT?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION,
COUNCILMEMBER. WE ARE
CONTINUING TO NEGOTIATE AND
WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH KING
COUNTY. KING COUNTY HAS BEEN
EXCELLENT PARTNERS IN THE
REQUEST TO EXPAND BOOKING
RESTRICTIONS FOR THE SUMMER
MONTHS AS WELL AS CONCERNING
THE OPERATIONAL AND ONGOING
ISSUES WITH KING COUNTY JAIL.
WE HAVE AN ONGOING GROUP CALLED
THE JAIL ADVISORY GROUP THAT
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND JAIL
FOCUSES ON WHICH IS A
PRODUCTIVE VENUE TO DISCUSS
THESE ISSUES. NOT OUR CONCERN
BUT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE
FACE WITH THE LIFTING OF THE
BOOKING RESTRICTIONS, IT IS THE
DEPTH ALONE. BELLTOWN, THROUGH
DOWNTOWN, IT INCLUDES LITTLE
SAIGON AND THE NORTH END OF
SOTO. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY FOR
WHICH WE NEED THE ABILITY TO
BOOK MORE INDIVIDUALS. FOR A
VARIETY OF OFFENSES. IT'S NOT
JUST AS SIMPLE AS REQUESTING A
ONE-OFF EXTENSION FROM THE KING
COUNTY JAIL. WE WANT TO BUILD
ONGOING FLEXIBILITY SO THAT
OFFICERS CAN MAKE A
DISCRETIONARY DECISION TO BOOK
SOMEONE INTO JAIL AND NOT CALL
AHEAD TO THE JAIL PRIOR TO
DOING THAT. IT'S NOT THE
AND/OR PROPOSITION. WE WANT TO
WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO RELY ON
THAT PARTNERSHIP. WE NEED MORE
RESOURCES AND FLEXIBILITY. I
WILL TURN IT OVER TO NATALIE IF
THERE IS MORE TO ADD.
>> ONE THING TO CONSIDER IS
THAT WE DO HAVE TO ASK THE JAIL
FOR ANY OF THE EMPHASIS ZONES.
IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE
STAFFING OF THE PEOPLE WORKING
IN THE JAIL. THAT DOES NOT
CHANGE. ALSO, IN ALL OF THE
DISCUSSIONS HERE, WE HAVE TO
CONTEMPLATE THE IMPACT OF
WORKERS ON THE JAIL. THAT IS
THE OTHER REASON WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE -- SOMETHING THAT WE
NEED TO HIGHLIGHT, I THINK.
>> I WILL MOVE ON TO MY SECOND
ISSUE WHICH IS, MAYBE THIS IS
FOR YOU, DIRECTOR MYERBERG. YOU
MENTIONED DIFFERENT FACILITIES
THAT WERE CONSIDERED. YOU DID
NOT MENTION THE REGIONAL
JUSTICE CENTER. I KNOW THAT
PROGRAM HAS A TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEM IN PLACE. SOME WOULD
ARGUE OTHERS THAT ARE BETTER
SUITED FOR THE DRUG TREATMENT
ISSUES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY THAT WAS
NOT CONSIDERED? AND WHY THAT IS
AN OPTION HERE?
>> YES. WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER
OF FACILITIES. SOME FACILITIES
THAT HAD SIMILAR STAFFING
ISSUES WHERE THEY COULD NOT
TAKE MORE FOLKS. THAT IS ONE OF
THE STRUGGLES THAT THE RJ C
HAS. I DID SPEAK TO SOME
REPRESENTATIVES AND DISCUSSED
THE REGIONAL JUSTICE CENTER TO
DETERMINE IF IT WOULD BE A
VIABLE OPTION. AGAIN, THE SAME
STAFFING ISSUES THAT THEY FACE
IN THE KING COUNTY JAILS ARE
NOT EXCLUSIVE TO THE KING
COUNTY JAIL. THERE IS ALSO SOME
INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER
CHANGES THAT HAVE TO OCCUR AT
THE RJ C. WHAT WE ARE OPEN TO,
IS A NUMBER OF SCENARIOS AND
POSSIBILITIES. WHAT WE FEEL
LIKE IS THAT S.C.O.R.E., FOR
RIGHT NOW, IS A FACILITY THAT
HAS THE STAFFING AND HAS THE
SYSTEMS AND HAS THE OPERATIONAL
CARE AND MEDICAL TREATMENT AND
ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT THAT WE NEED. THAT
DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE WILL NOT
CONTINUOUSLY EVALUATE THIS
PILOT. IT IS A PILOT. WE WILL
HAVE AN ONGOING WORKGROUP WITH
OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO SAY, IS IT
WORKING? IS IT NOT WORKING? HOW
DO WE SHIFT AND PIVOT? ARE
THERE OTHER FACILITIES WE CAN
EVALUATE? ALL OPTIONS ARE OPEN
AND WE WILL EXPLORE ANY
FACILITY THAT CAN MEET OUR
NEEDS AND THAT DOES NOT CAUSE
BURDEN ON STAKEHOLDERS.
>> CAN YOU REMIND ME HOW LONG
THE PILOT IS FOR?
>> THE PILOT COULD GO ON IN
PERPETUITY. WHAT WE HAVE BUILT
INTO THE PILOT IS THAT WE WILL
CONTINUALLY ASSESS AND REASSESS
TO DETERMINE IF WE WANT TO MOVE
FORWARD. ONE THING THAT IS IN
THE CONTRACT IS THE ABILITY FOR
THE CITY TO PULL OUT WITH
NOTICE. THE JAIL CONTRACT IS A
30 YEAR CONTRACT WE CANNOT PULL
OUT. THIS CONTRACT WOULD ALLOW
US THE FLEXIBILITY TO INNOVATE
AND MAKE CHANGES AND IF IT IS
NOT WORKING, TO REMOVE
OURSELVES FROM THE CONTRACT.
>> ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS, AS
MANY PEOPLE ACKNOWLEDGED AND
MENTIONED ALREADY, I UNDERSTAND
THAT THE FACILITY IS CERTIFIED
OR ACCREDITED AND SIX PEOPLE
HAVE DIED THERE IN THE LAST
YEAR, THAT IS DEEPLY
PROBLEMATIC. I THINK THE
COMMENTS THAT DIRECTOR
WALTON-ANDERSON HAS SAID, SIDE,
PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A
FAMILY MEMBER OR FRIEND BEING
BOOKED INTO THAT FACILITY AND
NOT LEAVING. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS
IS AT LEAST ONE REASON WHY
ADDITIONAL FACILITIES NEED TO
BE CONTEMPLATED. CAN YOU TALK
ABOUT HOW LONG IT TAKES BETWEEN
BOOKING AND THE ASSESSMENT OR
EVALUATION THAT MIGHT BE DONE
IN ORDER FOR SOMEBODY TO BE
REFERRED FOR SERVICES, MEDICAL,
OR SOME OTHER SERVICE? OR SOME
OTHER MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE?
HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE FROM
THE TIME THEY ARRIVE?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION,
I WILL ASK DIRECTOR
WALTON-ANDERSON ANSWER THAT.
ONE VALUE THAT EVERYONE AT THIS
TABLE SHARES AND EVERYONE IN
THE AUDIENCE SHARES IS THAT WE
WANT TO MINIMIZE HARM ON THE
FOLKS I WILL BE INCARCERATED.
WE WILL SAY THIS OVER AND OVER
AGAIN. THE FIRST APPROACH FOR
MISDEMEANORS AND NONVIOLENT
LOW-LEVEL MISDEMEANORS IS GOING
TO BE DIVERSION AND TREATMENT.
THAT IS THE GOAL. WE WANT TO
REDUCE HARM. WE DO NOT WANT
PEOPLE TO DIE IN FACILITIES. SO
WE WILL PUT WHATEVER POLICIES
AND PRACTICES IN PLACE WHEN
THEY ARE DECIDING WHO TO BOOK
AND THE ONGOING WORK WITH
S.C.O.R.E. TO PROTECT THE FOLKS
THAT ARE IN THERE. WE WILL DO
OUR BEST TO ENSURE THAT THE
PEOPLE GO IN THERE AND ARE
TREATED WELL AND GIVEN MEDICAL
CARE AND THEN COME HOME TO
THEIR FAMILIES. I WANT TO
ADDRESS THAT POINT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M
HEARING IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR
THEM TO BE ASSESSED FOR
SERVICES, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THEY
ARRIVE AND GET THE SERVICES
THAT ARE LISTED AS THE REASONS
WHY THIS FACILITY IS CHOSEN, IT
HAS MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH
AND OTHER TREATMENT OPTIONS
AVAILABLE.
>> THE FIRST THING IS, IN MY
VISITS TO S.C.O.R.E. BOTH
TIMES, I WAS ABLE TO SEE THE
BOOKING AND SCREENING PROCESS.
THE FIRST PIECE IS ONE OF THE
MOST CRITICAL, ARE THEY
MEDICALLY FIT TO BE BOOKED? THE
SECOND THING IS THAT MANY OF
THE TREATMENT PROVIDERS THAT I
SPOKE TO, I ASKED, WHAT IS THE
PRIMARY ISSUE YOU ARE SEEING
WITH INDIVIDUALS COMING INTO
S.C.O.R.E. AND THEY SAID
SUBSTANCE USE AND MENTAL
ILLNESS. CO-OCCURRING FOR SURE.
THE ISSUE, YOUR QUESTION IS
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. I WANT TO
POINT OUT ONE THING. THESE
SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE, OFFERED
MULTIPLE TIMES TO INDIVIDUALS
COMING IN. IT IS UP TO THAT
INDIVIDUAL, AS COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE SAID, WE CANNOT MANDATE
PEOPLE TO ACCEPT TREATMENT AND
BE COMMITTED TO DO THAT.
S.C.O.R.E. DOES ITS BEST TO DO
MOTIVATIONAL TECHNIQUES TO
ASSESS PEOPLE AND OFFER THEM
SERVICES WHEN THEY ARE BOOKED
AND ACCEPTED FOR THAT BOOKING.
PART OF THE BOOKING PROCESS
INCLUDES A MEDICAL SCREENING IF
THEY HAVE SUBSTANCE USE, MENTAL
HEALTH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
MEDICAL CHECKS HOURLY FROM THE
TEAM. AND THE OFFER OF SERVICES
IS CONSTANT. I SAW SERVICE
PROVIDERS THERE. I'VE SEEN THE
MEDICAL UNIT. I KNOW THE
ABILITY TO HAVE THOSE SERVICES
IS THERE. MANDATING PEOPLE TO
GET THOSE SERVICES IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT IS
WHAT WE HEAR OVER AND OVER
AGAIN WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT
PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS. JUST BECAUSE THEY
DID NOT TAKE IT, THAT IS
NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
THIS NEXT STEP, OFFERING THE
ABILITY TO BOOK SOMEBODY INTO
JAIL IS HAPPENING SO THAT THEY
CAN GET TREATMENT. I'M HEARING
THE SAME RESPONSE, WE CAN OFFER
IT, WE CANNOT FORCE THEM TO DO
IT. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT
THIS IS ACCOMPLISHING. THAT'S
ONE THING. THE FACT THAT PEOPLE
ARE BOOKED IN AND MAY OR MAY
NOT RECEIVE TREATMENT IS
SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE THE
FACILITY HAS STAYED ON. I'D BE
INTERESTED TO KNOW, OF THE
FOLKS WHO ARE ARRESTED AND
BOOKED IN WHO ARE OFFERED
TREATMENT, HOW MANY RECEIVE IT?
WHAT IS THE OUTCOME OF THE
TREATMENT THAT THIS FACILITY
OFFERS, HOW MANY GET ACCESS TO
A COUNSELOR, TO THE MEDICATIONS
THAT ARE BEING OFFERED? HOW
MANY PEOPLE RESOLVE THE DRUG
PROBLEM. IF THAT IS WHY THIS
FACILITY IS BEING CHOSEN, I
WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOMES
ARE. THE LAST THING I WILL SAY,
THANK YOU FOR THE INDULGENCE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE A LOT
OF OPERATIONAL ISSUES THAT NEED
TO BE FIGURED OUT. THE MEMO
THAT WAS SENT TO US INCLUDED
THE IMPACT ON THE COURTS AND A
NEED FOR MORE HEARINGS, A NEED
FOR A DATA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
THAT CAN CONNECT THESE
TOGETHER. THE COSTS THAT WE
HAVE HEARD ABOUT. THE TRAVEL
TIME AND MANAGEMENT OF THE
ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE TO GO DOWN
TO DES MOINES. CUSTODY ISSUES
BRINGING SOMEBODY FROM THE
S.C.O.R.E. FACILITY WHICH IS A
DIFFERENT JURISDICTION WHICH
WILL REQUIRE SOME OTHER ISSUE
TO BE RESOLVED. IN ADDITION TO
COST. WE GOT A REQUEST FOR $2
MILLION FOR THE CONTRACT. THERE
ARE ALSO HEALTHCARE SERVICES IF
THE DETAINEES REQUIRE
HOSPITALIZATION, THAT WILL COME
BACK TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
COMPETENCY OF EVALUATIONS
COMING BACK TO THE CITY OF
SEATTLE. OVERTIME REQUIRED TO
DRIVE PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH.
THEY ARE NOT DOING OTHER PATROL
WORK THEY COULD BE DOING IN
SEATTLE. CORA CHANGES IN THE
DATA SYSTEM INTEGRATION I HAVE
ALREADY MENTIONED. MY QUESTION
FOR YOU IS, WHAT IS THE
ADDITIONAL COST OF ALL THESE
OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE
OUTLINED BECAUSE SO FAR THE
MAYOR HAS ONLY IDENTIFIED
$600,000 AND I WANT TO KNOW
WHERE THE BALANCE OF THE MONEY
IS GOING TO COME FROM.
>> $600,000 IS WHAT WE HAVE
IDENTIFIED AS BEING THE 2024
COST. THE 2025 COST WILL BE $2
MILLION PER YEAR. ASSUMING
WITHIN THAT $2 MILLION, WE WILL
PROVIDE FOR MOST OR IF NOT ALL
THE COSTS THAT YOU ARE
DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW. THAT
BEING SAID, WE HAVE BEEN VERY
OPEN ABOUT THIS, WE DON'T HAVE
ALL THE ANSWERS. AGAIN, WE
ENGAGED IN THE STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS. BASED ON 25
OPERATIONAL ISSUES. WE HAVE
ADDRESSED MANY OF THOSE ISSUES.
WE WILL ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
AND, AS WE GO, WE WILL LEARN OF
OTHER ISSUES MOST LIKELY WHEN
WE BEGIN OUR OPERATIONS. THAT
IS WHY WE KEEP REFERRING TO
THIS AS A PILOT. WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. WE NEED TO
LEARN AS WE GO. WE WILL START
WITH A LOW NUMBER OF BOOKINGS.
THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF
OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US AS FAR
AS TRANSPORTATION GOES. WE ARE
CLOSE TO A TECHNOLOGICAL
PHYSICS -- FIX. WE HAVE HAD
MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE
FOLKS WILL BE HELD. WE ARE
CONFIDENT WE CAN RESOLVE THESE
ISSUES. WE WILL BE REPORTING
BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND TO OUR
STAKEHOLDERS, FRANKLY, ABOUT
WHAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED AND WHAT
WE CAN DO AND ITERATE AND LEARN
OVER TIME.
>> THE LAST THING I WILL SAY,
AS WE APPROACH A $250 MILLION
DEFICIT, WHEN THE ANSWER TO HOW
WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT IS
WE DON'T KNOW YET, THAT IS NOT
SUFFICIENT. BY NEXT WEEK MAYBE
WE WILL HAVE THE ANSWER.
>> THE ANSWER IS NOT THAT. OUR
PLAN IS THAT BY THE TIME WE
SUBMIT THE BIANNUAL BUDGET WE
WILL HAVE THE ANSWERS. WE KNOW
THE COUNCIL WILL HOLD US
ACCOUNTABLE TO ANSWER THOSE
QUESTIONS. I HEAR YOU LOUD AND
CLEAR. WE WILL PROVIDE YOU
SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION ON
THOSE POINTS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT YOU
WERE FIRST. FOR SOME REASON,
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE HAS JUMPED
AHEAD OF YOU. BACK OVER TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO RESPOND
TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND SOME
OF THE EMAILS WE ARE ALL
RECEIVING. ONE PERSON SAID THIS
IS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS. I HAVE
TO PUSH BACK AND SAY NO, THIS
IS NOT ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, THIS
IS ABOUT PATCHING A HOLE IN THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM. LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO WANT
TO ARREST THOSE WHO ARE
COMMITTING MISDEMEANOR CRIMES,
AND ALLOW THEM TO TAKE THEM
SOMEWHERE. STATEMENTS LIKE, WE
SHOULD NOT BE SPENDING MONEY ON
JAIL, WE SHOULD BE SPENDING IT
ON HOUSING THE HOMELESS, THAT
ADDS THE ANTI-A HOMELESS MOTION
-- NOTION THAT THEY ARE
CRIMINALS. AND LARGELY HOMELESS
PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMITTING
CRIMES AND WE NEED A PLACE TO
TAKE PERPETRATORS. I REALLY
WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT IN MY
MIND, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO
DIFFERENT ISSUES HERE,
HOMELESSNESS AND PUBLIC SAFETY
AND DEALING WITH THIS FACT THAT
WE HAVE NOWHERE TO TAKE THEM.
WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTING
REPEAT OFFENSES ALL OVER THE
CITY. I FIRST HEARD ABOUT
S.C.O.R.E. FROM THE CAPTAIN OF
THE NORTH PRECINCT WHO IS --
WHOSE OFFICERS WERE TRYING TO
ARREST OR PRIORITIZING REPEAT
OFFENDERS THAT WERE ON THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S LIST HERE. THESE
ARE CRIMES FROM SMALL
BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS THEY
ARE FILLING UP THE INBOXES.
WITH THAT SAID, IT SHOULD BE
CLEAR THAT I DO SUPPORT THIS
PROPOSAL. I DO AGREE WITH
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE ABOUT THE
BUDGET IMPLICATIONS. $2 MILLION
IN 2025 AND 2026 AND THEN 2028
WHEN, AS WE HAVE BEEN
DISCUSSING, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO
USE THE SPOTS IN THE KING
COUNTY JAIL THAT WE HAVE
ALREADY CONTRACTED. THAT ISSUE
BLEW UP IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE LAST TIME. I DON'T
WANT TO GO INTO DETAIL ON THAT.
I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I DO
STILL HAVE QUESTIONS. ON THE
ONE HAND, THE COUNTY IS SAYING,
WE ARE NOT ACHIEVING COST
RECOVERY SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY
MONEY. THERE'S NOTHING TO GIVE
BACK TO SEATTLE. THEN THERE'S
ALSO THE ARGUMENT THAT THERE IS
STAFFING SHORTAGES. THAT IS WHY
WE HAVE BOOKING RESTRICTIONS AT
THE KING COUNTY JAIL. THE STORY
KEEPS CHANGING. I WANT TO POINT
OUT THAT LAST YEAR, THIS ISSUE
CAME UP BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE
COUNTY WAS ABOUT TO -- WAS
LOOKING FOR -- WAS ABOUT TO
ISSUE AN RFP FOR THE REMAINING
$5 MILLION LEFT OVER FOR $16
MILLION I WOULD NOT BE SPENT ON
JAIL. I WANT TO READ YOU A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY.
APPARENTLY, IN 2020, THE CITY
CAME TO AGREEMENT WITH KING
COUNTY THAT $16 MILLION IN
SAVINGS FROM DECREASED USE OF
THE JAIL CONTRACT WOULD BE
DIVESTED FROM THE JAIL AND INTO
PROGRAMS AND ACTIONS TO TAKE
PLACES SUBSTANTIALLY WITHIN THE
CITY OF SEATTLE THAT ARE
DESIGNED TO INCREASE
COMMUNITY-BASED SUPPORTS FOR
RACIAL, AND ETHNIC AND GENDER
BASED COMMUNITIES. A POLICY
DECISION WAS MADE DURING THE
COVID ACADEMIC -- EPIDEMIC. WE
DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN CLOSE
PROXIMITY BECAUSE OF THE SPREAD
OF COVID. THERE WAS ALSO A
POLICY DECISION MADE TO EMPLOY
OTHER METHODS OF
REHABILITATION. THAT APPEARS TO
STILL BE A LIVE ISSUE. LAST
YEAR, $5 MILLION WAS USED FOR
THAT. ALL THESE THINGS GET
MUDDLED, DIVERTING FROM JAIL
AND THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO
DO WITH THE EXTRA MONEY THAT
WAS AGREED WOULD NOT BE USED ON
JAIL CELLS IN 2020. IN THE FALL
OF 2022 BUDGET DELIBERATIONS,
COUNCIL PASSED A BUDGET ACTION
THAT SAID, NOW WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT THE 2023 BUDGET, MOVING
FORWARD, THAT BASICALLY SAID
THAT WE ARE GOING TO
CONTEMPLATE WHAT WE ARE GOING
TO DO WITH THE SAVINGS FROM THE
ABILITY TO USE THE $195
MILLION. HOWEVER MUCH IT WAS
BACK THEN. THE SAVINGS BEING
USED FROM NOT SPENDING ON THOSE
JAIL CELLS, WHAT ARE WE GOING
TO DO WITH THAT? WHAT ARE WE TO
DO WITH THAT MONEY? WE WILL USE
THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR THE
ANNUAL LABOR ADJUSTMENT THAT WE
ARE STILL PAYING THE COUNTY
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE DO HAVE
TO PAY THE COUNTY MORE FOR
INCREASED LABOR COSTS FOR OUR
CONTRACT. SO THERE WAS A
PROPOSAL PUT. ASSOCIATED WITH
THAT WAS THE REQUEST THAT THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE PROVIDE A
WORKPLAN BY JANUARY 21st TO THE
CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND
PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE WITH
A PROJECTED TIMELINE INCLUDING
THE DATES FOR DECIDING ON
PARAMETERS. IT DESCRIBES HOW IT
PLANS TO INCLUDE THE COUNTY IN
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY.
AND IDENTIFIES WHO IS LEADING
NEGOTIATIONS IN THE MEMBERS OF
THE NEGOTIATING TEAM. THESE
TALKS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE
HAPPENING ON WHAT IS GOING ON
WITH THIS MONEY WE ARE PAYING
THEM FOR JAIL CELLS HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS HAPPENED AND HAS
COUNCIL NOT BEEN AWARE MADE
AWARE OF THOSE? WHAT HAS BEEN
DECIDED? WHAT IS THE CURRENT
STATE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS?
WE ARE DOING THIS AT THE LAST
MINUTE. A LONG TIME COMING WITH
MORE CAPACITY. I JUST WANT TO
KNOW , THIS WAS A REQUESTED
CONVERSATION AND REPORT BACK TO
COUNCIL, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH
THAT?
>> FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS
SINCE THE SPRING AND EARLY
SUMMER WE HAVE BEEN IN ACTIVE
NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE COUNTY.
THE BOOKING RESTRICTIONS, THE
BED FLOOR ADJUSTMENT, THE NEW
RATES ARE ALL SUBJECT OF THESE
NEGOTIATIONS. I CAN GET TOO
DEEPLY INTO THOSE IN OPEN
SESSION. WHAT I WILL SAY, THE
CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING WELL.
THE COUNTY HAS BEEN A GOOD
PARTNER AT THE TABLE AND THEY
HAVE BEEN PRODUCTIVE. I'VE MET
WITH INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS
TO DETAIL WHAT IS HAPPENING
WITH OUR OVERALL APPROACH TO
KING COUNTY. I WOULD BE HAPPY
TO HAVE A FULLER BRIEFING IN
EXECUTIVE SESSION IF YOU DEEM
IT APPROPRIATE. AGAIN, WE
CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE
COUNTY. WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE
ABOUT THE QUESTIONS YOU ARE
ASKING AT A LATER DATE.
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT
NELSON. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE?
>> I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL POINT
TO MAKE. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES
WHO BROUGHT THE BUDGETARY
ISSUES UP. WE HAD A BRIEFING
TODAY SERVING THE REGIONAL
POLICY COMMITTEE ON THE CAMPUS
PROJECT AND VISION. ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT STRUCK ME WAS THE
PLAN IS FOR THE SKY BRIDGE THAT
CONNECTS THE JAIL TO THE
COURTHOUSE TO COME DOWN IN
2027. I THINK THE PLAN IS
BASICALLY TO SHUT DOWN THE
CURRENT JAIL AND BUILD
SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN SOTO. I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
ARE BEGINNING THESE DISCUSSIONS
ABOUT ALTERNATIVE JAIL SPACE.
MAJOR FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES ARE
PLANNED BY KING COUNTY
REGARDING THE CURRENT JAIL AND
IN BASICALLY TWO YEARS WE
CANNOT TRANSPORT. IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT WE BEGIN THESE
CONVERSATIONS NOW. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. A VERY GOOD POINT. I'M
NOT SEEING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANTED TO
NOTE A FEW THINGS IN TERMS OF
MY OBSERVATIONS OF THE
BRIEFING. THANK YOU MR. DOS.
>> MR. CHAIR, MAY I SAY ONE
MORE THING THAT I SHOULD'VE
SAID? THE EXECUTIVE HAS BEEN
EXTREMELY TRANSPARENT INVITING
YOUR STAFF INTO THE WORKGROUP
PROCESS ADDRESSING MANY OF THE
OPERATIONAL THINGS THAT I
RAISED IN MY STAFF REPORT. THEY
ARE WORKING IT IN REAL TIME. IT
IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT IN A
WEEK OR TWO OR INDEFINITELY A
MONTH, THERE WILL BE MORE
INFORMATION THAT CAN BE BROUGHT
TO BEAR ON THAT. I WANT TO ADD
A LITTLE CONTEXT FOR THE
INFORMATION THAT YOU RECEIVED.
THANK YOU TO THE EXECUTIVE
PARTNERS FOR INVOLVING US IN
THE PROCESS.
>> THANK YOU, MR. DOSS.
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA IS NOT ON
ZOOM.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. A
COUPLE COMMENTS, FEW QUESTIONS
AS WELL. GREAT DISCUSSION,
THINK YOU COLLEAGUES. FIRST
OFF, THIS 20 BEDS MISSING AS A
TERM FROM THE PROPOSED
AGREEMENT THAT IS BEFORE US. I
DO VIEW THAT PERSONALLY AS AN
ESSENTIAL TERM AND CONDITION OF
THIS WHOLE AGREEMENT, THIS
PROPOSED AGREEMENT WE ARE BEING
ASKED TO AUTHORIZE. I AM FINE
WITH VOTING TODAY AT THE
COMMITTEE LEVEL. I DO THINK
THAT IS ESSENTIAL FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE THAT WE NEED
CLARITY ON AND DOCUMENTING WHAT
WE ARE AUTHORIZING HERE. A
COUPLE THINGS, THE CONTRACT
AMOUNT, WILL WE ARE GETTING IN
EXCHANGE FOR THAT INCLUDING THE
NUMBER OF BEDS. I WOULD LOVE TO
SEE THE AMENDMENT ON THAT.
PERSONALLY. ANOTHER COMMENT,
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE
FOR POINTING OUT THAT THE PRIOR
SEATTLE CITY COUNCILS HAVE MADE
POLICY DECISIONS THAT 180 BEDS
IS THE INTENDED THRESHOLD AND
CAP, IF YOU WILL, FOR BEDS AND
JAIL SPACE HERE IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE. I HAVE LIMITED CONTEXT
IN HOW THEY ARRIVED AT THAT AND
THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WENT
INTO THAT. IT DOES STRIKE ME AS
SOMETHING THAT SEEMS VERY
ARBITRARY TO PULL IT OUT OF A
HAT LIKE THE PLEDGE TO DEFUND
THE POLICE BY 50%. IT IS WHAT
IT IS. I SEE WHY YOU POINTED
THAT OUT. WHAT WE APPROVED
TODAY DOES NOT EVEN PUT US
ANYWHERE NEAR CLOSE TO A PAST
POLICY DECISION BY OTHER
COUNCILS. WE ARE NOT EVEN IN
THE SAME BALLPARK. I AM A
LAWYER BY TRAINING. I ACTUALLY
WENT TO LAW SCHOOL ON THE
PROMISE I DID NOT HAVE TO BE
GOOD AT MATH AND NUMBERS. DOING
IT IN MY HEAD QUICKLY, THIS
WOULD PROVIDE US WITH CAPACITY
OF 105 BEDS. WE ARE STILL 40%
SHORT OF THAT 180 BED SPACE. WE
DON'T EVEN NEED TO REVISIT
PAST POLICY DECISIONS. IT IS
NOWHERE NEAR RIPE. THANK YOU
FOR POINTING THAT OUT, THAT IS
AN EXCELLENT POINT TO
UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT HERE.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE THANK YOU
FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR
LEADERSHIP COMMENTS ON
EXPLORING INVOLUNTARY TREATMENT
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I
ALSO SUPPORT AS WELL. LIKE
CHAIR KETTLE, I HAVE NOT HEARD
ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE THAT
KIND OF LEADERSHIP PUBLICLY. IT
IS IMPORTANT. LIKE YOU, CHAIR
KETTLE I HAVE HEARD TREATMENT
PROVIDERS WHISPERED IN MY EAR .
WHEN I WAS A CANDIDATE KNOCKING
ON 16,000 DOORS OF PEOPLE IN
DISTRICT ONE. OF THAT 16,000,
THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF
RESIDENCE THAT ARE NOW MY
CONSTITUENTS THAT WERE FORMER
ADDICTS. THEY WERE A FAMILY OF
FORMER ADDICTS, FRIENDS,
COUSINS, UNCLES AUNTS, NEPHEWS
AND NIECES. ADDICTS THEMSELVES.
AND THIS DID COME UP A LOT.
CONSISTENTLY, EVERYONE TOLD ME,
PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO SNAP
OUT OF IT. MOST OF THESE FORMER
ADDICTS THAT I SPOKE WITH OUR
PRE-FENTANYL. WHICH IS A
DIFFERENT LEVEL OF INTENSITY MY
SENSE IS THAT IT WOULD BE A
STATE LEVEL CHANGE THAT WOULD
BE REQUIRED. WE NEED TO DO
BETTER. MY QUESTION PERTAINS TO
DEATH. DIRECTOR WALTON, I
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON
THE. ONE DEATH IS TOO MANY.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, THANK
YOU FOR CALLING THAT OUT AS
WELL. I SHARE YOUR CONCERN ON
THE NUMBER OF DEATHS IN
S.C.O.R.E.. SIX IN THE LAST
YEAR. IT IS ALARMING, IT IS
SHOCKING. TO YOUR POINT, ONE
DEATH IS TOO MANY. I DID READ
THE STAFF MEMO. YOU PREEMPTED
ME. BY WAY OF COMPARISON, YOU
TALK ABOUT THE DEATHS. I WOULD
LIKE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT
MORE. AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
ACCORDING TO THE STAFF MEMO,
THIS IS NOT JUST A QUESTION FOR
YOU, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR
ANYONE. THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL
TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE THE
NUMBER OF DEATHS FITS TO IN
COUNTY JAIL. IN THE STAFF MEMO
THERE WERE 12 DEATHS SINCE
S.C.O.R.E. OPENED IN 2011 AND
THERE WERE SIX IN THE LAST YEAR
ALONE. AND THEN IT GOES ON TO
SAY THAT THERE WERE 12 DEATHS
IN THE KING COUNTY JAIL SINCE
2021. A THREE-YEAR PERIOD.
IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES
COMPARISON. 10 DEATHS IN A
THREE-YEAR PERIOD OF HOWEVER
MANY THAT I JUST SAID IN
HOWEVER MANY YEARS. ANY SENSE
OF HOW MANY DEATHS HAVE BEEN IN
THE KING COUNTY JAIL SINCE
2011? THAT WOULD BE THE MOST
APPROPRIATE COMPARISON. YEAH,
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE
STAFF REPORT WAS OFF OF THE
KING COUNTY WEBSITE. A STATE
LAW REQUIRES FOR A CORRECTIONAL
INSTITUTION TO REPORT DEATHS.
THE DATA THAT WAS AVAILABLE
ONLY WENT BACK TO 2022. I'M
SORRY. 2021 OR 2019. I THINK IT
IS LIKELY THAT THE DATA WAS
REQUIRED FROM THE STATE LAW
THAT PASSED. IT WILL TAKE MORE
RESEARCH TO GET TO APPLES TO
APPLES COMPARISON. I WANT TO
NOTE THAT KING COUNTY AS A
FACILITY PRE-COVID HAD A FEW
MORE DETAINEES. COMPARING THE
NUMBER OF DEATHS TO EACH OTHER,
IT WOULD REQUIRE THE ANALYSIS
TO BE ABLE TO LOOK FOR THE KIND
OF INFORMATION YOU ARE SEEKING.
>> I WILL ADD A LITTLE BIT TO
THAT. WHAT WE KNOW, FOUR DEATHS
IN THE LAST YEAR, TWO THE YEAR
PRIOR. AN ARTICLE CAME OUT LAST
WEEK THAT SINCE SEPTEMBER THERE
BEEN SIX DEATHS. IS A PROBLEM
THAT MANY JAILS FACE. THAT DOES
NOT MINIMIZE IT. I JUST WANT TO
BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE
THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THIS. THIS
CAME UP DURING THE STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS. ONE OF THE WAYS THAT
WE CAN MITIGATE THIS IS THAT WE
WILL BE MORE CAREFUL THAN OTHER
JURISDICTIONS WILL BE ABOUT WHO
WE BOOK INTO S.C.O.R.E.. WE
HAVE A CHOICE THAT WE CAN MAKE.
IF SOMEONE HAS HYPERTENSION OR
UNDERLYING HEALTH ISSUES OR IF
THEY ARE IN THE THROES OF
ADDICTION AND WITHDRAWAL, WE
WILL NOT PUT THOSE PEOPLE INTO
JAIL. WILL THAT AVOID EVERY
FATALITY, WE CAN'T PROMISE
THAT. WE CAN TAKE STEPS TO
MINIMIZE THE LIKELIHOOD WITH
THE POPULATION WE INTEND TO
BOOK AT S.C.O.R.E.. I WILL TURN
IT OVER TO YOU IF YOU HAVE
ANYTHING TO ADD.
>> THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
WEBSITE, THERE WAS A NEW LAW
THAT INDICATED WE HAVE TO
REPORT FROM ALL OF THE
FACILITIES IN WASHINGTON STATE.
IT IS SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO
LOOK AT IN TERMS OF COMPARISON.
THEY ARE NOT AT FULL CAPACITY.
I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE. KING
COUNTY'S NUMBERS ARE HIGHER
THAN THAT. I WOULD NOTE THAT.
THE INFORMATION RELATED TO THE
DEATHS ARE REALLY TRAGIC. AND
ARE REALLY SURPRISING EVEN TO
THE DIRECTOR OF S.C.O.R.E. THAT
NOTES THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
SHOCKING TO THEM. THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT MANY OF THE
JAILS ARE FACING AND FACILITIES
ARE FACING. AGAIN, WE HAVE A
DIFFERENT TYPE OF DRUG.
POLYSUBSTANCE USE OF DIFFERENT
DRUGS AND WHAT'S THAT DOING.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO MITIGATE
THAT. EVEN THE PRESENTATION
THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK OR TWO
WEEKS AGO. TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
OVERDOSE IN THE INTERSECTIONALI
TY'S OF CRIME WITHIN A TWO
BLOCK AREA. OVERDOSES AROUND
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THE MEDICAL
EXAMINER SENDS OUT REPORTS
ABOUT THE OVERDOSES IN THE CITY
AND I HAVE LOOKED THAT UP. IN
TERMS OF THAT, 38 OVERDOSE
DEATHS SINCE JUNE. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT 11 OF
THOSE IN THE LAST WEEK WITHIN
THE CITY OF SEATTLE. WHEN THEY
HAVE OVER NIGHT NURSING CARE
AND PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES. THEY
ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO
MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT OVERALL,
WHAT WE ARE FACING AND WHY THE
NEED TO GET PEOPLE INTO
SERVICES AND TREATMENT AND
GOING BACK TO SOMETHING I WAS
NOT ABLE TO RESPOND TO WITH
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, WHY WE
PICKED THE S.C.O.R.E. FACILITY,
IT'S IMPORTANT TO PICK A
FACILITY WHERE THOSE TREATMENT
OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE. PEOPLE
MIGHT NOT BE READY TO ENGAGE.
WE DID NOT HAVE THE SAME
TREATMENT OPTIONS IN THE TROOP
BLOOD PILATE. WE CHOSE
S.C.O.R.E. BECAUSE OF THE
ABILITY TO HAVE THAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT.
FINAL QUESTION , DIRECTOR
MYERBERG ABOUT THE DAB ZONE AND
NOW THROUGH THE JAIL, WE NOW
CAN LOOK IN NATURE AND
GEOGRAPHIC AREA DOWNTOWN, PARTS
OF SOTO, ET CETERA. IDEALLY, WE
WILL EXPAND GEOGRAPHICALLY OR
AT A BARE MINIMUM, THIS ZONE IS
A TEMPORARILY LIFTING OF THE
RESTRICTIONS IN A TEMPORARY
AREA ONLY. GOING TO SUNSET OR
THOSE WILL BE RE-OPPOSED THAT A
DATE CERTAIN AT THE END OF
THIS. WHEN IS THAT? WHAT IS THE
PATH TO MAKING IT PERMANENT?
THEY HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING IN
GOOD FAITH. THIS IS A BARRIER
FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY TO
CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH. WHAT
IS THE PATH TO MAKING THAT
PERMANENT IN THAT SPECIFIC GEO?
>> JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE WAY
THAT THE RELATIONSHIP WORKS
WITH KING COUNTY. CURRENTLY
THERE ARE BOOKING RESTRICTIONS
THAT ARE SET BY THE COUNTY.
THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE
BOOKING RESTRICTIONS. FOR
EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE HIGH
UTILIZER FOLKS AND PEOPLE WHO
CAN BE A PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT
OR THE EMPHASIS ON THE BOOKING
RESTRICTIONS. THE COUNTY HAS
BEEN A GOOD PARTNER WORKING
WITH US WHEN WE HAVE OPERATIONS
OR EMPHASIS WE WOULD WANT TO
CONDUCT. WHEN WE DO THAT, IT IS
A DATE CERTAIN PROPOSITION.
HERE, WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE
INCREASED EMPHASIS IN THAT AREA
FOR THE SUMMER WITH THE CONCEPT
BEING THAT AT THE END OF THE
SUMMER WE WILL REASSESS AND THE
EMPHASIS WILL NOT CONTINUE PAST
THE SUMMER. THAT BEING SAID, A
CENTRAL PIECE TO THE
CONVERSATION AROUND THE JAIL
AND THE RATE RESET IS THE
CAPACITY. I DON'T WANT TO GET
AHEAD OF THE CONVERSATIONS
ORDERED DELVE INTO THEM
PUBLICLY. WE HAVE RAISED THESE
ISSUES AND THE COUNTY HAS BEEN
A WILLING PARTNER. WHEN WE HAVE
MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE,
WE'LL COME BACK AND SHARE IT.
>> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THE
LAST QUESTION.
>> WHEN YOU SAY WE WILL HAVE
MORE INFORMATION WILL BE HAPPY
TO SHARE. AGAIN, I WANT BETTER
TRANSPARENCY. I FAILED TO
MENTION THAT THIS REPORT, THIS
WORKPLAN WAS SUPPOSED TO COME
TO COUNCIL JANUARY 31st IN
2023. WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH
THE MONEY THAT WE ARE SPENDING
AT THE JAIL? DO THEY HAVE THE
UNDERSTAND AND AN ACCOUNT WHERE
THEY ARE PAYING FOR THOSE
SERVICES? IS IT BEING SPENT
BECAUSE OF THE FAILURE OF COST
RECOVERY?
>> WHO IS THEY?
>> THE COUNTY.
>> YOU'LL HAVE TO ASK THE
COUNTY ABOUT THEIR POSITION
WHICH THEY MAY CLEAR, THERE IS
NO UNDER SPENT. THE RATES HAVE
INCREASED AND NOW WE ARE
NEUTRAL. THE MONEY WE ARE
BUDGETING TO THE COUNTY, FROM
THEIR PERSPECTIVE IS NEUTRAL.
>> WE ARE NOT CONTINUING TO
SPEND IT ON THESE OTHER
PROGRAMS THAT I READ ABOUT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> A POLICY POINT I WILL REMIND
EVERYBODY, MAKING A POINT ABOUT
THE COUNCIL IMPOSED MORE THAN
180. WE HAVE THREE BRANCHES OF
GOVERNMENT HERE. THE EXECUTIVE,
THE POLICE ARREST PEOPLE AND
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
DECIDES IF THEY ARE GOING TO
PURSUE A CASE. SOMETIMES THE
COUNCIL GETS OUT OF OUR LANE
WHEN IT COMES TO PARTS OF THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESPONSE AND
SYSTEM WE DON'T HAVE ULTIMATE
CONTROL OVER. WE INFRINGE UPON
PROSECUTORIAL INDEPENDENCE.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE
WE ARE ADHERING TO PAST GOALS
OF CERTAIN RESPONSES THAT MAY
NOT BE RELEVANT ANYMORE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT. I DO WANT TO DO A
QUICK SUMMARY AND THANK YOU AND
HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE POINTS
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. I ALREADY
MENTIONED, THANK YOU FOR
HIGHLIGHTING. THANK YOU FOR
MAKING THE POINTS ALL OF YOU ON
THIS. THANK YOU FOR THE POINTS
ABOUT DEATHS. IT IS TRAGIC. IT
IS TERRIFIC WHAT YOU SEE. IF
YOU GO ON THE JAILS AND YOU SEE
THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
SUFFERING AND YOU SEE THEM ON
THE STREET SEEING THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE SUFFERING, IT IS
INCREDIBLE. IF YOU SEE THAT AND
YOU RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU
UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES. I
THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT
CONTEXT. IF WE HAVE FURTHER
CONTEXT AS IT RELATES TO KING
COUNTY JAIL, THAT WOULD BE VERY
GOOD AS WELL. THIRD POINT
RELATED TO THIS IN TERMS OF THE
CONDITIONS OF THE PEOPLE WE ARE
SEEING ON THE STREETS, THE
MEDICAL POINT AND I RECOGNIZE
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING CLOSE
REGARDING MEDICAL COMPARED TO
S.C.O.R.E.. VERY GOOD IN TERMS
OF WHAT WE HAVE AND THE
OPPORTUNITIES AND PROGRAMS
RELATED TO MEDICAL. THAT'S
VERY IMPORTANT. A DIFFERENT
AREA, GOOD GOVERNANCE. I WANT
TO HIGHLIGHT THE STAKEHOLDER
RING THAT IS GOING ON. I
RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE THE
ACLU BEING HERE. WHAT I REALLY
APPRECIATE IS 925 REMAINING IN
THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP ON THE
PUBLIC DEFENDER SIDE AND
ENGAGING ON THIS. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO HAVE ALL ASPECTS
OF THIS INCLUDING THE COURT.
THANK YOU. THAT IS GOOD
GOVERNANCE RIGHT THERE. I
APPRECIATE THAT WORK BEING DONE
AT THAT EFFORT. ON THE TOPIC OF
BUDGETING. WE ARE IN A
DIFFICULT POSITION RELATED TO
THE BUDGET. $2 MILLION IS A BIG
NUMBER. A BIG NUMBER IS THE
IMPACT OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND
THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE
PUBLIC SAFETY. I'M CONSTANTLY
TALKING TO BUSINESSES TRYING TO
CONVINCE THEM NOT TO CLOSE AND
HAVE THOSE PEOPLE LOSE THEIR
JOBS AND IF YOU TALK ABOUT
BUDGET, LOSE THE REVENUE THAT
THE CITY IS GOING TO GET.
INVESTORS OUT OF STATE THAT ARE
LOOKING TO COME IN, NEW
COUNCIL, WE ARE WORKING IT. AND
FOR THEM TO NOT MOVE AWAY. LOST
REVENUE. I APPRECIATE THE $2
MILLION, THAT NUMBER IS DWARFED
BY THE IMPACT OF THE DOWNTOWN
THAT IS NOT THRIVING. I WANT TO
MAKE THAT POINT. I'VE HEARD
FROM MANY ON THAT POINT. THE
NEXT POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS
THAT OFTEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT
EVIDENCE-BASED. IT'S A BIT OF
A THROWAWAY TERM NOWADAYS. I
POINT OUT THE HEAT MAPS THAT
I'VE SEEN FROM THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. EVEN DSA,
THE HEAT MAPS SHOW WHAT IS
HAPPENING ON OUR STREETS. THE
AUDITOR REPORT . IT CLEARLY
SHOWS. THAT IS EVIDENCE. THAT
SHOWS THE NEED ON THE
CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE.
EVIDENCE FROM BEING ON THE
STREETS FROM THE WALK ALONG AS
I HAVE DONE. I'VE DONE IT WITH
HEALTHONE AND WITH GROUPS,
NONPROFITS ON OUR STREETS.
GREEN BELTS, ALL OVER THE
PLACE. IT'S INCREDIBLE WHAT
YOU SEE AND UNDERSTAND AS YOU
DO THOSE OUTREACH. I'M SURE
THAT CHIEF CARLTON DOESN'T
LIKE THIS. NOT JUST COPD. BOTH
GROUPS ARE FRUSTRATED WITH WHAT
IS HAPPENING. IT IS A BASIC
FACT. IT'S JUST THE NUMBERS.
IT'S A BASIC FACT. THOSE
TRYING TO CARRY OUT THEIR JOBS
ARE FRUSTRATED. THAT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE. ALSO, GOOD
QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES.
WHAT IS THIS ACCOMPLISHING? I
WILL TELL YOU, RESPECT TO THE
NEIGHBORS IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT
THAT WE GOT HERE, IT'S
IMMEDIATE IMPACT IN TERMS OF
WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR NEIGHBORS
AND COMMUNITIES, THIS POINT WAS
MADE. I'VE BEEN ON THE
STREETS. I HAD AN INDIVIDUAL,
UP TO ME. A MAN, HIS NAME IS
JACOB. HE CAME AT ME STRONG. I
WAS NOT SURE HOW THIS WAS GOING
TO GO. HE HAD JUST GOTTEN
RELEASED OUT OF TREATMENT AND
HE WAS SCARED BECAUSE HE DID
NOT KNOW WHERE HE WAS GOING TO
GO AND HE THOUGHT IF HE ENDED
UP ON THE STREETS, HE WOULD BE
DEAD. HE WAS A STRONG GUY. I
PUT ON MY HAND TO SHAKE HIS
HAND. I DID NOT WANT THEM
SWINGING WITH HIS RIGHT HAND. I
HELD IT. HUMAN TOUCH AND ALL OF
THE SUDDEN I FELT HIS SHOULDERS
RELAX. EIGHT TEAR CAME FROM HIS
EYE. WHAT CAN WE DO? THE SYSTEM
IS FAILING, I HEAR YOU. HE TOLD
ME THAT WHEN HE IS ON DRUGS, HE
CAN'T THINK. HE WAS DOING THIS
WITH HIS HANDS, I CAN'T THINK.
I SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO MAKE
DECISIONS. I WAS RELEASED WHEN
I SHOULD'VE NEVER BEEN ALLOWED
TO DO THAT. I CAN'T THINK.
I'M LIKE A CHILD. SOMETIMES WE
HAVE TO GO TO JAIL. DON'T KEEP
US IN THERE FOREVER. FOR SOME
INDIVIDUALS, THAT MAY BE THE
POINT THAT CHANGES THEIR
DIRECTION. I BELIEVE IN THAT
TESTIMONY FROM JACOB. I'VE
SEEN IT MANY TIMES IN TERMS OF
PUBLIC SAFETY. TWO LAST POINTS,
I APPRECIATE PUBLIC COMMENTS
BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPS AND
INFORMS AND AUGMENTS WHAT WE'VE
BEEN DOING ENGAGING WITH THE
COMMUNITY. AND ALL OF THE OTHER
OUTREACH WE HAVE DONE. THANK
YOU. I DO APPRECIATE HAVING
ACLU HERE AND FORMER
COUNCILMEMBER -- FOR BEING
HERE. AS OPPOSED TO GETTING
TALKING POINTS, THIS STRIKES ME
AS BALANCED. THAT IS WHAT WE
NEED. WE NEED MEETINGS LIKE
THIS TO GO THROUGH IT TO SHOW
THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO BE
BALANCED. THE LAST POINT, THIS
GOES TO THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
OUR JOB IS TO DO THE OVERSIGHT.
WE WILL DO IT ON THE BUDGET
PIECE AND ON THE OPERATIONAL
IMPACTS MOVING FORWARD. WITH
THAT SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF COUNCIL
BILL 120825, IS THERE A SECOND?
TO SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. CLERK? ANY
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? WE HAVE
HAD ENOUGH COMMENTS. MY CLERK
IS NOTING THAT THERE IS THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR FINAL COMMENT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF
COMMENTS.
>> IF I CAN SAY ONE THING, MR.
CHAIR. JUST A HEADS UP. I WILL
BE ABSTAINING FROM THE VOTE
UNTIL I HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION
AND BACKGROUND. I WOULD LIKE
MORE INFORMATION ON IT. I WANT
TO GIVE EVERYONE A HEADS UP.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> MR. CHAIR, I DO THINK WE DO
NEED TO -- I HAVE OTHER
COMMENTS. IF THERE IS A MOTION
AND A SECOND, I THINK YOU
SHOULD OPEN IT UP FOR FURTHER
DISCUSSION.
>> THAT IS WHY MY CLERK
INFORMED ME. YES.
>> IF I MAY.
>> WE WILL GET YOU BACK ON
ZOOM.
>> YEAH. LET ME JUST SAY. IN
THE INTEREST OF TIME. I DO
APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT
WENT INTO THIS. MR. CHAIR, YOUR
LEADERSHIP HELPING TO DRIVE
THIS AND STREAMLINE THIS. I DO
HAVE THE ONE THING I WOULD
APPRECIATE CLARITY ON WAS
SOMETHING I VIEW AS A MATERIAL
TERM AND CONDITION OF THIS
PROPOSED AGREEMENT. IN ALL, I
THINK THIS IS A THOUGHTFUL
BALANCED APPROACH TO PUBLIC
SAFETY THAT RECOGNIZES THE
IMPORTANCE OF DIVERSION AND
TREATMENT AND POLICING
ENFORCEMENT AND YES, SOMETIMES,
DETENTION. I AM GOING TO BE
VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS TODAY.
THAT SAID, I WOULD APPRECIATE
THE ADDITIONAL CLARITY. THERE
IS STRONG HISTORICAL PRECEDENT
FOR THIS. THERE ARE -- THIS IS
THE S.C.O.R.E. FACILITY THAT I
THINK IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE
CITY OF SEATTLE, AND IN
CREDITED FACILITY COMPLIANT
WITH THE ASSOCIATION STANDARDS.
ACCREDITED BY BOTH THE NATIONAL
COMMISSION ON CORRECTIONAL
HEALTH CARE AND THE STATE
ASSOCIATION AMONG OTHER
ACCREDITATIONS AND COMPLIANCE
STANDARDS AND THE TWO ON-SITE
EXPERTS, SO, THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. SORRY
FOR NOT SEEING THE YOUNGER
VIRTUAL REAL HAND LIFTED.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE ?
>> SORRY, GREG.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA'S POINT. I
DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT APPEAR
LIKE I WAS CONTRADICTING
DIRECTOR MYERBERG IT WILL BE 20
GUARANTEED BEDS. I WANTED TO
POINT OUT THAT THE ILA OFFERS
FLEXIBILITY TO SEEK ADDITIONAL
BEDS AT A FURTHER TIME. THE
CITY DOES NOT HAVE A PLAN TO
GROW THAT NUMBER IN ORDER OF
MAGNITUDE. THERE WILL BE 20
BEDS IN THE AMENDMENT. I WAS
NOT CONTRADICTING THE DIRECTOR.
>> THAT IS NOT HOW I INTERPRET
IT. IF 20 BEDS IS THE FLOOR,
THAT'S GREAT, THAT'S FINE. I
JUST NEED THAT DOCUMENTED.
THANK YOU.
>> YES, VICE CHAIR, IT WILL BE
DOCUMENTED. WE WILL BE, YES.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I AM
SUPPORTIVE, I WILL BE VOTING
FOR THIS OUT OF COMMITTEE
TODAY. I WANT TO GIVE A HEADS
UP ON PAGE EIGHT OF GREG'S
MEMO THAT THERE IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ADD AN AMENDMENT
LANGUAGE RELATED TO REPORTING
ON SOLUTIONS TO OPERATIONAL AND
POLICY ISSUES AS A CONDITION OF
IMPLEMENTATION. I WILL BE
CONSIDERING SUCH AN AMENDMENT
AS A HEADS UP.
>> YES, THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE
THAT.
>> THANK YOU. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON COUNCIL
BILL 120825?
>> [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] THERE
ARE FOUR AND ZERO AGAINST AND
ONE ABSTAINING.
>> THE RECOMMENDATION THAT
COUNCIL PASS COUNCIL BILL
120825 WILL BE SENT TO THE
FLOOR CIVIL COUNCIL. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH AND AGAIN, THANK YOU
EVERYONE. WHAT WE SEE HERE,
LOOKING AT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM AND PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM
AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH
THESE ISSUES WITH KING COUNTY
AND OTHER ENTITIES AS WE MOVE
FORWARD. WILL DO THIS WITH
COMPASSION AND WISDOM. WE SEE
THIS BALANCE IN THE LEGISLATION
IN THE EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THE
PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES
OVERALL. WE NEED TO REMEMBER
THAT IN THE LONG TERM WE NEED
TO HAVE A STRONG AND SAFE CITY
ACROSS ALL COMMITTEES SO THAT
WE CAN HELP THOSE IN NEED. ONE
LAST POINT. WE WILL LOOK
FORWARD AND I RECOGNIZE THE
CHALLENGES AND DIFFERENCES IN
TERMS OF PHILOSOPHY. AND
IDEOLOGY. ONE THING RELATED TO
MISDEMEANORS, WE CANNOT JUST
DISMISS THEM AND EXPLAIN AWAY
THE MISDEMEANOR CRIME. YES,
COMPARED TO FELONIES, IT DOES
NOT MATCH UP. THE BOTTOM LINE
IN THE CITY, THIS IS WHAT THE
NEIGHBORS ARE FEELING. A
STAGGERING AMOUNT OF
MISDEMEANOR CRIME THAT IS
HAVING MASSIVE IMPACTS ON OUR
NEIGHBORS AND MASSIVE IMPACTS
ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
IN NEED. THAT IS WHERE OUR
FOCUS NEEDS TO BE. THANK YOU