GOO GOOD MORNING, THE PUBLIC
SAFETY MEETING IS IN ORDER.
CALL THE ROLL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SHOULD
>> CHAIR KETTLE. W MINUTES.
>> THERE ARE FOUR MEMBERS
PRESENT WITH ONE ON THE WAY.
>> THANK YOU. IF THERE IS NO
OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS
ADOPTED. LOOKING AND HEARING
AND SEEING NOTHING, THE HEARING
IS ADOPTED. WELCOME TO OUR
PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING. I REALLY
APPRECIATE EVERYONE IN
ATTENDANCE FOR TODAY'S
DISCUSSION INVOLVING REALTIME
CRIME CENTER AND CLOSE CIRCUIT
TV LEGISLATION WE HAVE BEFORE
US. BEFORE STARTING I WANTED TO
SAY THANK YOU TO THE TEAM. KING
COUNTY FOR THEIR AGREEMENT ON
THE KING COUNTY JAIL. IT IS
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO WHAT WE
ARE DOING HERE WITH OUR
STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK PLAN AND I
REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT
THAT WENT INTO THAT AGREEMENT
BOTH ON THE CITY SIDE AND THE
COUNTY SIDE. IT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNTY AND
THE CITY TO WORK TOGETHER.
PUBLIC DEFENSE IS VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT FOR OUR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM. IT IS UNDER
STAFFING CHALLENGES LIKE MANY
ELEMENTS OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM. WE HAVE TO WORK WITH
THE COUNTY, WITH THE STATE TO
HELP WORK THROUGH THOSE
CHALLENGES PARTICULARLY IN
LIGHT OF PENDING SUPREME COURT
ACTION ON THAT FRONT. SO I LOOK
FORWARD TO THE NEW DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC DEFENSE. SPEAKING OF THE
JAIL, TOO, ONE THING THAT WE
ALSO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS
THE LONG TERM. THIS IS A FIVE
YEAR AGREEMENT. PERIODICALLY
REVIEWED. BUT THERE ARE LONG
TERM GOALS. WHAT THE COUNTY IS
LOOKING AT REGARDING THE JAIL
AND SO FORTH, WE NEED TO BE
MINDFUL AND ENGAGED TO
UNDERSTAND THAT TO ENSURE THAT
OUR LONG TERM NEEDS ARE MET.
SPEAKING OF LONG TERM NEEDS TO
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM,
AGAIN, MANY CONVERSATIONS THAT
WE ARE HAVING WITH INDIVIDUALS
ON BLAKE FIX ADJUSTMENTS, AND
THE FOLLOW ON ACTIONS THAT
STILL NEED TO BE DONE, TO
ENSURE OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM IS SET AND THE STATEWIDE
PUBLIC DEFENDER. WE HAVE MAJOR
ISSUES AND AGAIN, WE NEED THE
SUPREME COURT, THE CHIEF
JUSTICE AND THE GOVERNOR TO BE
PRACTICAL IN THE SENSE THAT WE
HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH
THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IN
PUBLIC DEFENSE WHILE
MAINTAINING THE VIABILITY AND
STRENGTH OF THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM. IT WILL HAVE
ALL THE IMPACT FOR ALL THE WORK
WE ARE DOING. IF ELEMENTS OF
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
FALTER, THAT WILL UNDO ALL THE
WORK WE ARE DOING IN TERMS OF
CREATING A SAFE BASE IN OUR
CITY AND ADDRESSING THE PER
MESSIVE ENVIRONMENT THAT
EXISTS. WITHIN THE PER VIEW OF
THE COMMITTEE.
>> WE HAVE 13 IN-PERSON PUBLIC
COMMENTERS AND 13, 12 ONLINE
WITH SOME NOT QUITE PRESENT
YET.
>> I SUPPORT, THE FATHER OF A
NINE-YEAR-OLD, I APPRECIATE THE
ONE ALREADY COMMENTING, HIS
INVOLVEMENT IN PUBLIC AFFAIRS.
SO WELCOME TO THE YOUNGEST NO
DOUBT OF THE AUDIENCE TODAY. SO
THANK YOU.
WE WILL START WITH IN-PERSON.
AND THEN GO TO THE REMOTE
SPEAKERS.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL
BE MODERATED IN THE FOLLOWING
MANNER. IT IS UP TO 60 MINUTES,
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE
ORDER IN WHICH THEY REGISTERED.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
TEN SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THEIR
TIME. SPEAKERS' MICS WILL BE
MUTED IF THEY DO NOT END WITHIN
THE ALLOTTED TIME. THE THE
PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION BEGINS.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MILES
PORTLAND.
>> THANK YOU, SO YOU GUYS, THIS
AMOUNTS TO, REALLY BAD. NEED
IMMEDIATELY TO REPEAL, THERE IS
NO ALLOTMENT OF FUND FOR
CLEARLY MARKED SIGNS SAYING
DRUG FREE ZONE ET CETERA. IT IS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND DEFINED BY
JUDGE HOLMES IN ABRAHAM VERSUS
THE UNITED STATES. CONNECTED
DOES NOT DETERMINE CAUSE OF
SUCH OR CAUSE BY DRUGS. USED IN
SPECULATION LIKE FIREWORKS
LEGISLATION. LEGISLATION IS A
LAWSUIT WAITING TO HAPPEN. HE
CONTINUES TO NOT BE CURTAILED
UNLESS THERE IS A PRESENT
DANGER. EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE,
THE SAME AS WALKING DOWN THE
STREET. WHICH THEY CONCLUDED
DID NOT MEET THE CLEAR PRESENT
DANGER TEST. CLEAR AND PRESENT
DANGER TEST. LATER, WE SHOULD
BE EXTREMELY VIGILANT UNLESS
THERE IS IMMEDIATE THREAT. THAT
THE DEFENDANT CAME BACK AND
COMMITTED A CRIME. CAN HE PROVE
THE DEFENDANT KNEW THEY WERE IN
POSSESSION OF SUCH DRUG? CAN HE
PROVE.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. NEXT?
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE CYNTHIA
SPIECE TO BE FOLLOWED BY B.J.
LAST.
>> HI. I'M CYNTHIA SPIESE, I
WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY A FEW
THINGS. AN ANALYSIS OF ALL
ENGLISH CITY STUDIES, YOU
DON'T NEED TO WASTE MONEY ON A
PILOT WHEN WE KNOW THE ANSWER.
DATA SHARING IS NOT THE ISSUE.
IT IS THE VENDOR BEING
COMPELLED UNDER WARRANT. YOU
CANNOT WRITE A FORCIBLE
CONTRACT CLAUSE. NO JUDGE WILL
HONOR THAT. THIS ISN'T A PILOT
BECAUSE NEITHER DEFINES A TIME
LIMIT FOR THE PROGRAM. THROWING
OUT THOUSANDS OF PUBLIC
COMMENTS THAT OPPOSE THE
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES IS
NOT GOOD GOVERNANCE OR SCIENCE.
IT IS SELF-CENTERED BIASING OF
THE OUTCOME AN KILLING
DEMOCRACY. IT SEEMS THE CURRENT
ADMINISTRATION'S JUST MEANS
SURROUND YOURSELF WITH YES MEN
AND IGNORE THE OFFICE OF CIVIL
RIGHTS AND THE PUBLIC.
APPROVING THIS IS GIVING A
BLANK CHECK TO EXXON. YOU ARE
BUYING INTO SLICK MARKETING
HYPE. DON'T PASS THESE BILLS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. B.J. LAST TO BE
FOLLOWED BY MATT OFFENBACHER.
>> GOOD MORNING, I'M B.J.
LAST. PRESENTING COUNCIL WITH A
LETTER SIGNED BY 60 COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS CALLING FOR THE
CITY TO REJECT
DEMONSTRATING THIS. SO WHEN YOU
GUYS IGNORE THIS AND MOVE
FORWARD SAYING THE PEOPLE WHO
SIGNED THIS DON'T KNOW WHAT
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU ARE
SAYING THE RAINIER BEACH ACTION
COALITION. WHO STREETS, OUR
STREETS. DON'T KNOW WHAT
CREATES SAFETY. DON'T KNOW THE
THREATS TO IMMIGRANTS. YOU ARE
SAYING THE ACLU, PLANNED
PARENTHOOD ADVOCATE AND OTHERS
DO NOT KNOW WHAT ARE ACTUAL
THREATS FOR PEOPLE SEEKING
ABORTION HEALTH CARE. YOU ARE
SAYING CARE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND
SURVEILLANCE BEING USED TO
TARGET. YOU ARE SAYING FRIENDS
OF DANNY BLAINE DOES NOT
UNDERSTAND THIS CITY USING
PROCESSES TO TARGET CERTAIN
GROUPS BY THE WEALTHY IN THE
CITY WHO ARE COMFORTABLE ENOUGH
WITH THE MAYOR TO SEND HIM
UNSOLICITED NUDE PICKS.
>> THANK YOU. MATT TO BE
FOLLOWED BY STEVE HUMPHREY I
THINK.
>> GOOD MORNING. I'M A
RESIDENT OF CAPITOL HILL AND A
SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN SODO.
I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO REJECT
THE TECH ASSISTED CRIME PILOT
TODAY. AT TOP OF THE IMPACT
REPORT, SPD CLAIMS THIS TECH
WILL PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE AND
HELP PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
COERCED INTO SEX WORK. THE
THING IS ALL THE EVIDENCE
POINTS TOWARD THIS TECH BEING
EXACTLY THE WRONG TOOL FOR
ACHIEVING THESE IMPORTANT
GOALS. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF
YOUR INTENTION IS TO CREATE
ZONES OF THE CITY WHERE PEOPLE
FEEL CONTINUALLY UNDER
SUSPICION, AND THREAT OF
ARREST, IF YOUR INTENTION IS TO
HARASSMENT GRANTS, PEOPLE OF
COLOR AND OTHER MINORTIZED
COMMUNITIES YOU ARE ON THE
RIGHT TRACK WITH THESE BILLS.
COMMUNITY PROBLEMS REQUIRE
COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS. THIS PILOT
IS EXPENSIVE AND THESE FUNDS
ARE MUCH BETTER DIRECTED TO
GROUPS WHO ARE READY DOING WORK
OF COMMUNITY SAFETY. THIS IS
WHAT MR. GREGORY DAVIS IS
TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE SAYS OUR
TECH IS BETTER THAN THAT TECH.
OUR TECH, OUR YOUNG PEOPLE,
THEIR INGENUITY AND THEIR
GENIUS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I'M STEVE. I LIVE AT 1005
HARBOR AVENUE. I'M HERE IN
SUPPORT OF COUNCIL BILL 128-44
AND SPECIFICALLY COUNCILMEMBER
SAKA. IN THE PAST 12 TO 18
MONTHS WE CAN IDENTIFY FIVE
PURPOSEFUL KILLINGS ALONG
HARBOR AND ALKI. A 22-YEAR-OLD
MAN WAS KILLED IN FRONT OF MY
HOME BY APPROXIMATELY 4:00 A.M.
AFTER CALLING 944, I WATCHED
HIM DIE IN THE STREET. I HAD A
WINDOW BLOWN OUT BY ONE OF THE
BULLETS AS DID A NEIGHBOR.
THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR OTHER
KILLINGS AND ONE STABBING
BETWEEN MY HOME AND LUNA PARK.
SEATTLE LACKS POLICE RESOURCES
AND NOTHING CAN BE DONE SHORT
OF USING ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS OF
SOME TYPE TO INVESTIGATE AND
SOLVE CRIME. WE DO NOT KNOW THE
OUTCOME OF ANY OF THESE CRIMES
I JUST DESCRIBED BECAUSE WE ARE
NOT AWARE THAT ANYBODY HAS BEEN
APPREHENDED OR CONVICTED. THIS
CAN HELP TO INVESTIGATES AND
ELIMINATE SOME OF THIS TYPE OF
CRIME. IT IS NOT INTRUSIVE IF
IT IS USED PROPERLY AND WE
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MIKE GAIN TO BE FOLLOWED BY
GREG DRUBNECK.
>> GOOD MORNING. I'M A LIVE
LONG WEST SEATTLE RESIDENT AND
WORK WITH A GROUP CALLED THE
HARBOR ALKI COMMUNITY GROUP
LOOK FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR
COMMUNITY. I'M IN SUPPORT OF
ROB SAKA'S AMENDMENT NUMBER 4.
WE CONTINUALLY EXPERIENCE GUN
VIOLENCE, FELONY CRIMES, CAR
BREAK-INS, GROUP GATHERINGS.
ALL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PAST FEW
YEARS, MANY OF THE COMMUNITY
HAVE BECOME NUMB TO IT. WE HAVE
EXPERIENCED MULTIPLE GUN
DEATHS. WE HEAR GROUP
GATHERINGS AND GUNSHOTS FIRED
AND IT HAS BECOME SOMETHING WE
HAVE GOTTEN USED TO. COMMUNITY
MEMBERS DON'T BOTHER CALLING
911 ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY KNOW
FROM EXPERIENCE OFFICERS CANNOT
RESPOND. SADLY, WE JUST DON'T
HAVE THE ADEQUATE NUMBER OF
OFFICERS TO PROPERLY POLICE THE
AREAS SO THE CAMERAS ARE A GOOD
WAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND
THEY DON'T DISCRIMINATE.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT
CAMERAS. THEY ARE COLOR BLIND.
THEY DON'T CARE WHERE YOU ARE
FROM, YOUR ETHNICITY, YOUR
BELIEFS. THEY COVER THE
DIVERSITY ISSUES.
>> THANK YOU. GREG TO BE
FOLLOWED BY SHANNON WOODMAN.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL
MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND TO ROB SAKA FOR
HELPING TO SPONSOR THIS, THE
CB120844 AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR.
I LIVE ON ALKI AVENUE. I HAVE
BEEN ON ALKI FOR EIGHT YEARS
BUT LIVED IN MARINE VIEW DRIVE
WEST SEATTLE MY WHOLE LIFE. I
HAVE EXPERIENCED BREAK-INS, I
HAVE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE AT 4:00
IN THE MORNING, TWO GUYS RIDING
BICYCLES WITH CROWBARS GOING
INTO CAR TO CAR TO CAR. I KNOW
THAT THE SEATTLE POLICE IS
DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN. BUT
WITH LACK OF POLICE, THE
CAMERAS IS A SOLUTION. AT LEAST
TO KEEP AN EYE ON AND AS MIKE
SAID, IT IS, THERE IS NO
DIVERSITY AND WHO IT IS DOING
IT, HOW IT IS BEING DONE, WHEN
IT IS BEING DONE. WE WOULD LIKE
SOME TYPE OF RELIEF AND SOME
HELP. I THINK THE SOLUTION IS
UP AND DOWN HARBOR AVENUE AND
ALKI. WE HAVE SEEN THE CRIME
GROW, GROW, GROW. YEAR AFTER
YEAR FOR MURDER TO BREAK-INS. E
WITH APPRECIATE YOU GIVING IT
THE BEST CONSIDERATION ABOUT
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, I'M SHANNON
WOODMAN OF WASHINGTON ALARM. MY
FAMILY HAS BEEN SECURING LIVES
AND PROPERTY IN THIS GREAT CITY
FOR OVER 80 YEARS. I AM ALSO A
HOMEOWNER AND A BUILDING OWNER
AND BOTH OF THOSE HAVE SECURITY
SYSTEMS IN THEM. I AM, WE WERE
NOTIFIED ONE WEEK AGO THAT
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
CHANGING THEIR ALARM RESPONSE
POLICY EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1st.
THEY WILL REQUIRE AUDIO OR
VISUAL VERIFICATION TO DISCATCH
AN OFFICER GOING FORWARD. IN
THE CITY OF SEATTLE, THEIR
MISSION STATEMENT SAYS THEY
WILL WORK WITH THE CITIZENS OF
SEATTLE YET IN 2024, THEY HAVE
NOT WORKED WITH OUR ALARM
INDUSTRY, OUR EXPERTS,
INCLUDING OUR ASSOCIATIONS AND
BEST PRACTICES. TWO WEEKS TIME
IS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO
NOTIFY OUR 65,000 ALARM USERS
IN CITY OF SEATTLE. NOR TO
CHANGE ALARM RESPONSE PROTOCOL
INS OUR MONITORING STATIONS. WE
ARE ASKING FOR MORE TIME TO
STUDY THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> BETHANY BURTON TO BE
FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY BARBER.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL.
BETHANY WITH NORTHWEST
REPRESENTING THE SECURITY AND
FIREARM INDUSTRY IN WASHINGTON
STATE. LAST WEEK, THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT CHANGED ITS
DISPATCHING PROTOCOL EFFECTIVE
OCTOBER 1st TO REQUIRE
SUPPORTING EVIDENCE SUCH AS
AUDIO, VISUAL, PANIC ALARMS OR
EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE THAT A
PERSON IS ILLEGALLY ATTEMPTING
TO ENTER A PROPERTY. THIS TWO
WEEKS NOTICE IS INADEQUATE FOR
PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTING THE
UPDATES REQUIRED FOR THE 65,000
SECURITY SYSTEM OWNERS IN
SEATTLE. WE ARE RESPECTFULLY
REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TIME TO
COORDINATE WITH LOCAL
BUSINESSES WHO WOULD LIKE TO
UPGRADE THEIR SYSTEMS. THANK
YOU.
>> ASHLEY BARBER?
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I'M ASHLEY BARBER. I
WAS INFORMED SEATTLE PB WOULD
NO LONGER BE RESPONDING TO
VERIFIED FALSE ALARMS. THIS
CAME HAS BEEN IN PROCESS FOR
EIGHT MONTHS. I'M THE DAUGHTER
OF A RETIRED POLICE CHIEF. I
UNDERSTAND FIRSTHAND THE STRAIN
ON RESOURCES THAT OUR POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS EXPERIENCING. I
HAVE ALSO WORKED IN THE
SECURITY INDUSTRY MORE THAN 13
YEAR. FALSE ALARMS ARE AN
EXISTING PROBLEM. LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND THE SECURITY
INDUSTRY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO
COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT
BENEFITS OUR CUSTOMERS THAT
DOESN'T LEAVE THEM STRANDED
AND VULNERABLE. I ASK FOR
ADDITIONAL TIME TO COME
TOGETHER TO WORK ON SOLVING
THIS ISSUE ONCE AND FOR ALL.
THANK YOU.
>> PETER CONDUT FOLLOWED BY
RENEE PETERS.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. I'M
PETER CONDIT. I LIVE IN GREEN
LAKE. I'M AGAINST SURVEILLANCE
IN SEATTLE AND INTEGRATING
PRIVATE CAMERAS INTO REALTIME
CRIME CENTER. I DO NOT WANT
POLICE OR ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE SYSTEMS TO WATCH
ME AND MY FAMILY AS WE GO ABOUT
OUR LIVES. SURVEILLANCE LEADS
TO SELF-CENSORING AND A LOSS OF
INDIVIDUALITY, CREATIVITY AND
OF COURSE, PRIVACY. CITY
COUNCIL SHOULD REJECT THESE
POLICE TECHNOLOGIES AND USE THE
MILLIONS THEY WOULD COST ON
PUBLIC HEALTH BASED SAFETY AND
COMMUNITY SUPPORTS LIKE
HOUSING, FOOD ACCESS, AND
LIBRARIES. THE HARMFUL IMPACTS
OF SURVEILLANCE FALL
DISPROPORTIONATELY ON
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ALREADY
FACED VIOLENCE FROM WHITE
SUPREMACY AND COLONIALISM. SPD
STOPS BLACK AND NATIVE
SEATTLEITES. AND THE POLICE
HAVE A HABIT OF KILLING THE
PEOPLE THEY ARE MEANT TO HELP.
BLACK LIVES MATTER, INDIGENOUS
LIVES MATTER. VOTE NO.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, RENEE PETERS
FOLLOWED BY GENE CLARK. THEN WE
WILL MOVE INTO REMOTE SPEAKERS.
>> I'M ONE OF THE COCHAIRS FOR
THE COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE
WORKING GROUP. ARISTATE THAT
FIVE OF SIX OF THE WORKING
GROUP MEMBERS DO NOT SUPPORT
THE CONTINUATION OF THE
PROPOSALS. THERE HAS NOT BEEN
ENOUGH TIME TO ENSURE THE
INDIVIDUAL CONCERN AREAS HAVE
BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED AND
INTEGRATED INTO THE SUMMARIES.
THERE ARE MEMOS PRODUCED IN THE
LAST WEEK OR SO. THERE IS NO
OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW
AMENDMENTS WITH THE SAME
VIGLIOTTI DOOR. AMENDMENT
NUMBER 3 EXPANDS THE AURORA
SURVEILLANCE ZONE WHICH
REPRESENTS A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE
IN WHAT WE ARE EVALUATING. I
AND OTHER WORKING GROUP MEMBERS
ARE HAPPY TO BE RESOURCE FOR
THE COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE
COLOR TO THE ASSESSMENT WE
SUBMITTED. WE SHOULD ESTABLISH
BETTER REPRESENTATION OF THE
WORKING GROUP AS A STANDARD
PART OF THE SESSIONS AND
BEYOND. GIVEN THE PROPOSALS ARE
NOT RETRO ACTIVE WE STILL HAVE
A CHANCE TO PROMOTE SAFETY.
>> THANK YOU. GENE PARK TO BE
FOLLOWED BY VANESSA REYES AND
THAT'S IT FOR IN PERSON.
>> I'M FROM CAPITOL HILL. MY
MAIN CONCERN IS WITH SHOT
SPOTTER. THERE HAS BEEN A STUDY
FROM CAMBRIDGE SHOWING THAT
THERE IS AN 87% FALSE POSITIVE
RATE. AND THE BOSTON POLICE
FOUND 70% HAVE SHOWN NO
EVIDENCE OF A GUNSHOT. AS
SOMEBODY WHO WORKS IN TECH,
THESE TECHNOLOGIES RELY ON
LARGE DATA SETS SO THEY ARE
ALWAYS GATHERING DATA. THE
THING IS WITH DATA AND THE
INTERNET, IT HAS A TENDENCY TO
STAY ON THE INTERNET A VERY
LONG TIME AND COME BACK AND
BITE YOU IN THE BUTT WHEN YOU
LEAST EXPECT IT. YOU ARE TRYING
TO INTRODUCE A TECHNOLOGY THAT
WILL COST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
A DAY AND ALERT THE POLICE TO
THINGS THEY DON'T NEED TO BE
ALERT ON WASTING MORE MONEY AND
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A WASTE OF
TIME. THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE
TIME TO LOOK INTO HOW OUR DATA
WILL BE TRACKED AND USED. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> VANESSA REYES WILL BE OUR
LAST IN-PERSON SPEAKER BEFORE
WE GO TO THE REMOTE SPEAKERS.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCILMEMBERS.
I'M VANESSA REYES. I'M HERE
TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT
EXPANDING THE USE OF
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES FOR
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE TECHNOLOGIES YOU ARE
CONSIDERING ARE EXPENSIVE AND
HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE
INEFFECTIVE AT DETERRING CRIME
AND THEY POSE SERIOUS CIVIL
LIBERTY CONCERNS FOR PEOPLE WHO
ARE SEEKING ABORTIONS AND
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. OF
CONCERN IS HOW THEY ALLOW THE
SER COUPLE VINCE OF PEEP
WACKERRING WORKING BY PROVIDING
AVENUES FOR OUR DATAS TO BE
SOLD TO PRIVATE CORPORATIONS OR
SHARED WITH DHS FOR FEDERAL
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
OR OTHER STATES SEEKING TO
PROSECUTE PEOPLE SEEKING
REPRODUCTIVE OR GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE. ACROSS THE
COUNTRY, WOMEN, IMMIGRANTS,
TRANS AND QUEER COMMUNITY ARE
FACING PERSECUTION AND ATTACKS
AND IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE
FOR SEATTLE TO EXPAND THE
SURVEILLANCE. PLEASE RECONSIDER
THE TECHNOLOGIES AND I URGE YOU
TO CONSIDER THE STUDIES FOR
IMPACT AROUND THESE
TECHNOLOGIES. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, WE ARE GOING TO
THE REMOTE SPEAKERS, THE FIRST
REMOTE SPEAKER IS TRAVANA
THOMPSON WILEY. PLEASE PRESS
STAR 6. WHEN YOU HEAR THE
PROMPT, YOU HAVE BEEN UNMUTED.
>> HI, I'M A LONG TIME
RESIDENT OF SEATTLE. I'M
CALLING IN TO URGE YOU TO
REJECT SPD'S REQUEST TO
PURCHASE RTCC AND INVEST THE
1.5 CURRENTLY ALLOCATED FOR
EQUITABLE EVIDENCE BASED
STRATEGY. I HAVE GROWN IN UP IN
SEATTLE MOST OF MY LIFE AND
SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW POLICE USE
THE SURVEILLANCE TOOLS. IT IS
HILARIOUS TO TELL BLACK AND
BROWN FOLKS THAT CAMERAS ARE
COLOR BLIND. BIPOC HAVE BEEN
SUSPECTED OF WRONG DOING SINCE
COLONIZERS INVADED OUR SHORES.
THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION OF
GUILT, RACISM, CLASSISM AND
SEXISM AND CONTINUATION OF THE
COLONIAL PROJECT. WE HAVE
ISSUES, HOWEVER OUR COMMUNITY
IS DEMANDING REAL SOLUTIONS. IT
IS CONCERNING THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL IS USING CITY MONEY TO
INVEST IN SYSTEMS KNOWN TO
FAIL. MANY EVIDENCE BASED
PROGRAMS ALREADY EXIST IN
SEATTLE ALREADY DOING THE WORK.
REJECT THIS PROPOSAL AND PUT
THE MONEY INTO COMMUNITY. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> THE NEXT REMOTE SPEAKER IS
CHARLOTTE STARK. PRESS STAR 6.
>> I'M CHARLOTTE STARK FROM
ALKI SUPPORTING COUNCILMEMBER
SAKA'S AMENDMENT 4 TO INCLUDE
ALSO ALKI AND HARBOR AVENUE. WE
HAVE CITY POLICE CHIEF
LIEUTENANTS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS
SWEARING BY THE CCTV CAMERAS
THAT THEY ARE A GAME CHANGER IN
THE MOST IMPORTANT TECHNOLOGY
TOOL IN POLICING. WE HAVE
THOUSANDS OF CAMERAS ON ALKI AT
ANY GIVEN WEEKEND. IN THE HANDS
OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WITH NO
EXPECTATIONS BY THE PUBLIC AND
A PUBLIC SPACE. THAT VIDEO ON
PUBLIC PROPERTY WILL NOT BE
TAKEN. THIS IS THE AGE AND THE
ERA WE ALL LIVE IN, THAT
INCLUDES RING CAMERAS AND
SECURITY CAMERAS ON BUSINESSES
AIMING TOWARD STREETS. WE HAVE
HAD 11 SHOOTINGS AT LEAST IN
LESS THAN FOUR YEARS WE HAVE
HAD AT LEAST EIGHT SHOOTING
VICTIMS. ON TOP OF THAT, A
NUMBER OF FATALITIES AND A HAIL
OF GUNFIRE THAT HAS RIDDLED
CARS AND HOMES TO THE POINT
THAT WE HAVE NEARLY 100 SHOTS
FIRED THAT DID NOT HIT PEOPLE,
BUT CERTAINLY SCARE PEOPLE INTO
LIVING IN THE STATUS OF FEAR.
WE NEED THE PROTECTION AND THE
EYES AND I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA'S AMENDMENT
4.
>> OUR NEXT REMOTE SPEAKER IS
ROSE HARRIOTT.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> I'M ROSE HARRIET AND I'M A
CONCERNED COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO
IS A SURVIVOR OF SERIOUS HARM,
SERIOUS VIOLENCE. I AM DEEPLY
CONCERNED BY THE CONVERSATION
HAPPENING HERE TODAY HAS A
SURVIVOR THAT DOES NOTHING TO
ADDRESS SAFETY. ALL YOU ARE
DOING IS CONTINUING TO
PERPETUATE RACISM BY
SURVEILLING COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR. I AND OTHER SURVIVORS
WILL NOT BE MADE MORE SAFE BY
SURVEILLANCE. WHAT WILL MAKE US
MORE SAFE IS PROVIDING
PREVENTIVE SERVICES TO OUR
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE WILL NOT
BE MADE MORE SAFE BY HAVING OUR
BODIES, OUR ACTIONS CAUGHT ON
CAMERA. HARM CAUGHT ON CAMERA
DOES NOT MAKE US MORE SAFE.
WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED IS
PREVENTIVE SERVICES AND TO BE
CONSIDERED PART OF THE PUBLIC.
BIPOC COMMUNITY MEMBERS DESERVE
RESOURCES, WE KNOW AS A
COMMUNITY THAT THINGS THAT WILL
KEEP US MORE SAFE, WHAT WILL
PREVENT HARM AND VIOLENCE IS A
HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT. WHICH IS
BIPOC YOUTH LED PROGRAMMING.
HOUSING, HEALTHY FOOD. ACCESS
TO RESOURCES. EDUCATION, HEALTH
CARE,.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP IS MARGARET
SPITZENAS. REMINDER TO PRESS
STAR 6. GO AHEAD.
>> I AM MARGARET, THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE SECURITY
INTEGRATION AND LIVE SAFETY
ASSOCIATION OF THE NORTHWEST.
AND I REPRESENT THE ALARM
DEALERS AND THEIR CUSTOMERS. I
HAVE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR
35 YEARS. AS WE HAVE WORKED
WITH MANY JURISDICTIONS ON
ALARM ORDINANCES. I'M HERE TO
TALK ABOUT THE NEW POLICY FROM
THE POLICE CHIEF. STATISTICS
SHOW THAT 85% OF THE ALARM
USERS DO NOT PRODUCE ANY CALLS
FOR SERVICE IN A GIVEN YEAR, WE
ARE WONDERING IF IT IS FAIR TO
PENALIZE THESE ALARM OWNERS FOR
THE CONTACT OF A FEW WHO CAN BE
BELT WITH WITH FINES OR OTHER
PENALTIES OR NO RESPONSE. WE
WOULD LIKE TO LAB RAT WITH THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ASK TO
POSTPONE THE ENFORCEMENT OF
THIS POLICY ON OCTOBER 1st SO
WE CAN TALK AND COME UP WITH
BETTER SOLUTIONS, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE HELEN
GILBERT NEXT.
>> HI, I'M HELEN GILBERT. I
LIVE IN NORTHEAST SEATTLE AND I
AM SPEAKING TODAY FOR RADICAL
WOMEN AND THE GROUP WE ARE
WORKING WITH, THE PUGET SOUND
MOBILIZATION FOR REPRODUCTIVE
JUSTICE. WE URGE YOU TO REJECT
PROPOSED SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD THREATEN
PRIVACY AND HAS HISTORICALLY
BEEN SHOWN TO NOT STOP CRIME.
AS FEMINISTS WE ARE CONCERNED
THESE ADDITIONAL SPY CAMERAS
COULD BE USED TO PROSECUTE
WOMEN SEEKING ABORTIONS WHEN
THEY HAVE FLED FROM STATES FROM
THE PROCEDURE IS CRIMINALIZED.
AND IT WOULD ENABLE STALKERS
AND ABUSIVE PARTNERS TO GAIN
ACCESS TO WHERE ABOUTS OF
POTENTIAL VICTIMS. WE KNOW THAT
SUCH TECHNOLOGIES
DISPROPORTIONATELY HARM PEOPLE
OF COLOR AND IF NOTHING ELSE
AFFECT YOUR OWN COMMUNITY IS
AGAINST THE PLAN BECAUSE OF ITS
THREAT TO CIVIL LIBERTIES
SHOULD CONVINCE YOU TO REJECT
THIS HARMFUL PLAN. STOPPING
CRIME NEEDS MONEY SPENT TOWARD
HUMAN SERVICES. EDUCATION, DRUG
TREATMENT, MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT.
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE AIDEN
CARROLL.
GO AHEAD. AIDEN, CAN YOU GO
AHEAD?
ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ONTO
CASPER SPARKS.
CASPER. PLEASE PRESS STAR 6.
THERE YOU GO.
>> GOOD MORNING. I AM SPEAKING
TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO
SURVEILLANCE TECH IN SEATTLE.
IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, TEXAS
ATTORNEY GENERAL SUBPOENAED
SEATTLE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL
SEEKING PATIENT MEDICAL RECORDS
BECAUSE THEY SUSPECTED TEXAS
RESIDENTS MIGHT TRAVEL TO OUR
CITY TO RECEIVE GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE. IF SURVEILLANCE
TECH WAS IN PLACE AT THAT TIME,
THEY COULD JUST ASK SPD NICELY
AND I SIMPLY DON'T TRUST THAT
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD
VALUE OUR PRIVACY OVER FRIENDLY
COOPERATION WITH ANOTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. FURTHER, I
WILL REMIND THE COUNCIL YOU
HAVE ALREADY HEARD FROM
COUNTLESS ORGANIZATIONS,
EXPERTS, AND CONSTITUENTS ABOUT
WHY SURVEILLANCE TECH DOESN'T
WORK. YOU WERE FULLY INFORMED
ABOUT THE RISKS AND HAZARDS
THIS TECH BRINGS TO THE
CITIZENS OF SEATTLE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. WE WILL GO BACK
TO AIDEN CARROLL. AIDEN, PLEASE
PRESS STAR 6. AIDEN, YOU'RE ON.
>> THAT WOULD MAKE US SAFER.
BUT WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE
DETAILS, IT IS NEVER THAT
SIMPLE. IT IS NEVER JUST OH, WE
ARE GOING TO FIND, IDENTIFY THE
BAD GUYS. AND MAKE THEM STOP
BEING BAD. LIFE DOESN'T WORK
THAT WAY. AND THE FACT IS THERE
IS A WHOLE LOT OF SCIENTIFIC
EVIDENCE ABOUT HOW WE CAN
REDUCE CRIME. NOW, IMAGINE YOU
LIVE IN 1850s , TRYING TO
OPERATE THE UNDERGROUND
RAILROAD WHEN THERE ARE CAMERAS
ON EVERY CORNER. IMAGINE YOU
LIVE IN THE 1770s WHEN IT IS
STILL OFFICIALLY, WE DON'T
HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH HERE.
AND YOU GET LOCKED UP BY SAYING
WE SHOULDN'T BE A MONARCHY
ANYMORE.
THESE ARE NOT ABSTRACT ISSUES
IF YOU ARE SEEKING AN ABORTION
OR AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT OR
ASSAULT SURVIVOR. THESE ARE
REAL CONCRETE PROBLEMS THAT
DON'T HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE THE
WAY REAL PROBLEMS LIKE
SHOOTINGS DO HAVE ALTERNATIVES.
YOU HAVE BEEN OFFERED THEM AND
REJECTED THEM. YOU DO NOT WANT
SAFETY. YOU WANT THE ILLUSION
OF SAFETY.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WE HAVE
KATIE GENDRY.
>> HELLO, I'M CALLING IN TODAY
TO REJECT COUNCIL BILL 18844
AND THE AMENDMENTS AND THE
IMPLEMENT OF SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY AND AUTOMATED
LICENSE PLATE READER, SO MUCH
DATA PROVES SURVEILLANCE DOES
NOT KEEP US SAFE. CAMERAS
EVERYWHERE SPYING ON THE PEOPLE
OF SEATTLE AND COPS TRACKING
PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY DOES NOT
PREVENT OR STOP VIOLENCE. THIS
VIOLATES THE PEOPLE'S CIVIL
RIGHTS AND PRIVACY. THIS IS AN
EXPENSIVE WASTE OF PRECIOUS
PUBLIC MONEY WE NEED TO SPEND
ON FUNDING PROGRAMS AND
RESOURCES THAT REDUCE VIOLENCE.
LIKE MEETING PEOPLE'S NEEDS.
THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE A
PART OF SEATTLE'S PUBLIC
HISTORIES. SO MANY PEOPLE CALL
IN TO REJECT YOUR VISION. YOU
ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND 60
ORGANIZATIONS IN SEATTLE WHO
HAVE BEEN OPPOSING THIS. PEOPLE
WILL SEE HOW YOUR ACTION'S
DECISIONS DO NOT REFLECT ON
WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT, WHAT YOUR
CONSTITUENTS WANT. YOU ARE
THREATENING OUR DEMOCRACY. DO
NOT PASS THIS CREEPY HORRIFIC
BILL.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WE HAVE
SHANE CLARY.
>> GOOD MORNING MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I'M DR. SHANE
CLARY, VICE PRESIDENT OF
COMPLAINS. I HAVE BEEN IN THE
ARM INDUSTRY FOR 50 YEARS AND I
AM SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO THE
POLICY THAT WE WERE JUST
NOTIFIED OF LAST WEEK BY THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT
GOES INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER
1st. AND WE ARE JUST ASKING
THAT WE SLOW THIS DOWN JUST A
BIT SO THAT THE INDUSTRY CAN
MEET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
TO GO OVER THE REQUIREMENTS OF
THE POLICY. THERE ARE OTHER
SOLUTIONS BESIDES WHAT THEY ARE
SUGGESTING. THERE IS THE COST
FACTOR THAT RIGHT NOW FOR THE
POLICY WERE TO GO INTO EFFECT
WOULD REQUIRE TECHNOLOGY THAT
MOST BUSINESSES AND RESIDENCES
DO NOT HAVE. AND AT THAT, I
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT UP, WE HAVE DAVID HAYNES.
>> THANK YOU, DAVID HAYNES,
MAYBE CITY COUNCIL CHAIR SHOULD
TAKE IT UPON HIMSELF TO CALL
ALL THE NOBLE CRIME FIGHTING
COPS THAT QUIT OUT OF PRINCIPLE
AND PROTEST UNDER ADRIAN DIAZ
AND COME BACK AND OFFER THE
$50,000 BONUS AND OVERTIME TO
BE USED TO FIGHT CRIME. CAN WE
REALLY TRUST THE EXECUTIVES TO
CHOOSE THE PROPER TECHNOLOGY TO
ENHANCE THE COP'S ABILITY TO
PINPOINT THE ACCURACY OF
COMBATING CRIME? TIM BURGESS,
THE DEPUTY MAYOR BOTH USED TO
BE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. THEY
ARE THE ORIGINAL VOTE TO EXTEND
DRUG PUSHERS FROM JAIL. THEY
ARE THE FIRST BACK STAB ON THE
COMMUNITY THAT STARTED THE
IMPLOSION OF SOCIETY WE ARE
DEALING WITH NO. AND YET, THEY
ARE THE ONES IN CHARGE OF
SCREENING COPS, AND CHOOSING
TOOLS. IS THE MAYOR GOING TO
CHOOSE A LOW QUALITY LENS TO
MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO SEE
THE DRUG ACTIVITY OR MAKE A
HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE
CAMERAS BEING INSTALLED?
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE MAX DOGGETT.
THESE ARE THINLY VEILED
REMARKETED TOOLS OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT. A REITERATION. JUST
LOOK AT THE HISTORY IF YOU HAVE
ANY DOUBT OR THINK THAT IS
HYPERBOLE. I'M GRATEFUL TO ALL
THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WHO
HAVE COME OUT. IT IS TELLING
THAT THE PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF
THIS BILL ARE ALL RESIDENTS OF
LUXURY PROPERTIES. AND THE
PEOPLE OPPOSED TO IT REPRESENT
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. I
WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A MOMENT OF
SILENCE FOR THE VICTIMS OF THE
POLICE.
>> THANK YOU. OUR PENULTIMATE
SPEAKER IS LILA B.
>> HI, I'M LILA B. IN DISTRICT
4. DO NOD ADVANCE RCCT. I'M
GLAD THE SHOT SPOTTER IS NOT ON
THE TABLE BECAUSE AT
TECHNOLOGY'S INHERENT FAULT TO
MISTAKENLY MURDERING A
14-YEAR-OLD. THAT IS A PRODUCT
OF RELIANCE ON SURVEILLANCE AND
WILL LIKELY HAPPEN HERE. YOU
PROMISE THEY WON'T ADD AI OR
FACIAL RECOGNITION FOR NOW. ALL
THAT IS REQUIRED TO CHANGE THAT
IS A SOFTWARE UPDATE AND THE
PROMISES ARE HOLLOW. SEATTLE
ICE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE
TECHNOLOGIES WERE SAID TO BE
MORE ACCOUNTABLE. SEVEN OTHER
PLACES HAVE THE CONSENT DECREE
AND REALTIME CRIME CENTER
INCLUDING CHICAGO WHO KILLED
14-YEAR-OLD ADAM TOLEDO ALONG
WITH BALTIMORE, SPRINGFIELD,
ALBUQUERQUE, ET CETERA. SEATTLE
IS NOT ANY MORE ACCOUNTABLE
BECAUSE THERE IS A CONSENT
DEGREE. I YIELD THE REST OF MY
TIME. VOTE NO.
>> THE LAST SPEAKER IS T
SANNON.
>> HI, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF
OF THE ACLU OF WASHINGTON. IN
STRONG OPPOSITION OF THE PILOT
PROGRAM. MY RESEARCH SHOWS THAT
BOTH TECHNOLOGIES DO NOT REDUCE
VIOLENCE CRIME. INSTEAD,
INCREASING SURVEILLANCE WILL
DISPROPORTIONATELY HARM
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND MAKE
IT POSSIBLE FOR ICE AND RED
STATES TO PROSECUTE IMMIGRANTS
AND PEOPLE COMING TO SEATTLE
FOR REPRODUCTIVE AND GENDER
AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE.
SAFEGUARDS ARE NOT ENOUGH. FOR
EXAMPLE, TO INFORM WHEN THEY
RECEIVE REQUEST FOR DATA, THEY
CAN STILL BE LEGALLY OBLIGATED
TO NOT TELL SPB. AND THIS WOULD
STILL INVOLVE ILLEGAL CHALLENGE
THAT SPD COULD. THE RISKS ARE
NOT WORTH SPENDING MONEY ON
TECHNOLOGIES THAT WILL NOT MAKE
SEATTLE SAFER. WE URGE YOU TO
REJECT BOTH COUNCIL BILLS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU CLERK, THANK YOU
EVERYONE FOR THE PUBLIC
COMMENT, PARTICULARLY ALL OF
YOU WHO CAME TODAY IN PERSON, I
KNOW THAT TAKES EXTRA EFFORT.
AND THOSE WHO HAVE EMAILED ON
THE TOPIC AND COMMUNITY FORMS.
THE ISSUES WE HAVE FACING.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK EVERYONE
FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT. I WANT
TO NOTE THAT COUNCIL PRESIDENT
HAS JOINED THE COMMITTEE. SO WE
ARE SET HERE IN THE COMMITTEE.
I ALSO IN TERMS OF PUBLIC
COMMENT ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEVIN
POINTS MADE. DATA POINT WILL BE
ADDRESSED DURING THIS COMMUNITY
MEETING. ACCOUNTABILITY HAS
BEEN MENTIONED TALKING ABOUT
THE FACT WE HAVE OIJ. CPC. AND
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE IMPUTES
FROM OTHER AREAS. AND JUST FOR
CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I DID
GET AN EMAIL BECAUSE I DID NOTE
IN THE LAST MEETING, IN TERMS
OF PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE HAD
GOTTEN EMAILS FROM PEOPLE POWER
WASHINGTON. I WAS ACKNOWLEDGING
WE HAD RECEIVED IT AND READ IT
AND HIGHLIGHTING QUESTIONS LIKE
IN TERMS OF THE AUTOMATIC
UPDATES. I DID NOT MEAN TO
IMPLY THAT PEOPLE POWER
WASHINGTON WAS SOMEHOW
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS OR THEIR
QUESTIONS HAD BEEN, I WANT TO
MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION FROM
THE LAST MEETING.
SEPARATELY AS WELL. I WANT TO
NOTE, I DID NOT KNOW OF THIS
LETTER FROM SEPTEMBER 13th. BUT
I DO HAVE THE LETTER FROM THE
CHIEF ON THE ALARM QUESTION.
NOW I HAVE YOUR LETTER ON THE
ALARM QUESTION. AND WE HAVE A
STRONG RELATIONSHIP IN
COMMUNICATIONS AND ALL OF THE
ABOVE WITH SPD SO WE WILL
FOLLOW UP WITH THEM. SO AGAIN,
PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY TO
HAVE YOUR POINTS AIRED AND
ADDRESSED. NOT SURE HOW THEY
WILL BE ADDRESSED BUT I
ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT YOU ARE
HERE. LASTLY, I DO APPRECIATE
THE SNAPS IN TERMS OF THE VERY
PROFESSIONAL ENGAGED SESSION.
WE WILL NOW PROCEED TO ITEMS OF
BUSINESS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
AND ADDITION TO WHAT I HAVE
SAID ARE ENCOURAGED TO SUBMIT
WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT AND
EMAIL THE COUNCIL AT
COUNCIL@SEATTLE.GOV. WE WILL
NOW MOVE ONTO OUR FIRST ITEM OF
BUSINESS, WILL THE CLERK READ
ITEM 1 TO COUNCIL LL 120845, AN
ORDINANCE RELATED TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION AND AUTHORIZING
APPROVAL OF USES AND ACCEPTING
THE 2024 SURVEILLANCE IMPACT
REPORT AND THE 2024 EXECUTIVE
OVERVIEW FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S USE OF REALTIME
CRIME CENTER SOFTWARE.
>> THANK YOU, AND I WELCOME
DIRECTOR ANDERSON, DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC SAFETY. AND MR. MAXEY,
CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER FOR
SPD. CAPTAIN BRITT, MR.
JAKOWSKY ON TECHNOLOGY AND
FINALLY FROM OUR ESTEEMED
CENTRAL STAFF TEAM, MR.
JOHNSON. MEMBERS, IF YOU DON'T
MIND, I WAS GOING TO ASK
CAPTAIN BRIT TO WALK THROUGH AS
TWO OF OUR MEMBERS WE ARE
MISSING FROM THE FIRST MEETING.
IF YOU CAN WALK THROUGH THE
SLIDES R QUICKLY, JUST TO HAVE
THE BASELINE BEFORE MOVING INTO
AMENDMENTS AND THE QUESTIONS
THEY WILL GENERATE.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? GOOD
AFTERNOON, THANK YOU FOR AGAIN,
GOOD MORNING ACTUALLY. THANK
YOU FOR HAVING ME EACH I
BELIEVE LAST WEEK DEPUTY MAYOR
BURGESS DID THE PRESENTATION SO
I WILL JUST RUN THROUGH THE
SLIDES HERE. AGAIN, THIS IS THE
OBJECTIVE OF THIS PILOT PROJECT
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY IS TO
ADDRESS GUN VIOLENCE. HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND FELONY CRIME. I
THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE
CHOOSING TO PRESENT THIS AND
ASK FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL ON
THIS IS BECAUSE GUN VIOLENCE
AND VIOLENT CRIME AGAINST THE
PEOPLE OF SEATTLE COMPELS US TO
ACT AND USE EVERY OPTION WE
HAVE. SO, THE FIRST SLIDE TALKS
ABOUT THE PILOT PROJECT
OBJECTIVES. THAT THESE
TECHNOLOGIES WILL REDUCE CRIME
AND IMPROVE OUR OUTCOMES FOR
PROSECUTION. ALL OF THESE TOOLS
ARE KEY WHEN WE HAVE THE
CHALLENGES THAT WE CURRENTLY
HAVE WITH PRISON STAFFING. IF
WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS IS THE CRIME ANALYSIS
DATA. AGAIN, THE NEXT SLIDE I
THINK SHOWS. WE HAVE AN
INCREASE. GUN VIOLENCE FROM
2012 TO 2024. WE WERE REACHING
526 INCIDENTS AND WE WERE ON
PACE TO EXCEED 2023 WHICH GOES
TO WHY WE NEED TO DO THIS.
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT WITH OTHER
EFFORTS SUCH AS POLICE PATROL,
ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENTS,
DEALING WITH THE OVERGROWN
TREES. POLICE SAFETY
INITIATIVES, THEY ARE PROVEN TO
REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME AND
PROPERTY CRIME AS WELL. NEXT
SLIDE. OTHER INVESTMENTS THAT
WE ARE MAKING BECAUSE WE KNOW
THAT POLICE ACTION IS NOT
ENOUGH. AND THE MAYOR IS
DEDICATED TO INVEST IN UPSTREAM
APPROACHES. OUR OTHER
INVESTMENTS INCLUDE 100
MILLION-DOLLARS ON NON-POLICE
RESPONSE, DIVERSION FROM THE
LEGAL CRIMINAL SYSTEM. AND THE
REASON FOR THIS IS MAYOR
HARRELL'S VISION IS TO MAKE
THE CITY SAFE FOR ALL OF US.
THE TECHNOLOGY PILOT ADDRESSES
A LOT OF THE CONCERNS FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT WE JUST HEARD.
ONE, THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL ONLY
MONITOR PUBLIC PLACES LIKE
SIDEWALKS AND STREETS.
NOTIFICATION SIGNS WILL BE
POSTED. VIDEO WILL ONLY BE KEPT
FOR 30 DAYS UNLESS THERE IS
EVIDENCE OF A CRIME AND THEN IT
WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DIGITAL
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AS EVIDENCE.
FACE TECHNOLOGY, FACE
RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY WILL NOT
BE USED. AND SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WILL NOT BE
COOPERATING IN ANY CRIMINAL OR
CIVIL ENFORCEMENT RELATED TO
IMMIGRATION OR ANYTHING RELATED
TO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS OR
GENDER AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE
SERVICES SO AGAIN, TRYING TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS IN
PUBLIC COMMENT. IT WILL BE DATA
DRIVEN. THE OFFICE OF THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL WILL DEVELOP
AND MANAGE IMPLEMENTATION AND
OUTCOMES AND THIS WILL BE
BASED, THE INFORMATION WILL BE
BASED WITH THE DATA ANALYTICS
TEAM. THE GOAL IS TO BE OCTAVE
AND TRANSPARENT. THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL ENABLE A
PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD, WHAT
IS BEING RECORDED. THE POLICE
ACTIONS BEING USED FROM AND THE
EXPERTS EVALUATION.
TRANSPARENCY IS A NECESSARY
ASPECT OF THIS AND IT IS KEY WE
HAVE THAT AS PART OF THIS. THE
TYPE OF CRIME TECHNOLOGIES IS
AGAIN THE CLOSED CIRCUIT
TELEVISION. REALTIME CRIME
CENTER AND I WILL TURN IT OVER
TO CAPTAIN BRIT TO TALK ABOUT
THE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGIES. THANK
YOU.
>> THE TWO TECHNOLOGIES TALKED
ABOUT TODAY ARE THE CLOSED
CIRCUIT TV CAMERAS. AURORA, THE
CHINA TOWN INTERNATIONAL
DISTRICT INCLUDING LITTLE
SAIGON. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
>> THIS IS ALL A PART OF OUR
PROCESS TO TRY AND ACCOMPLISH
WHAT WE CALL PRECISION
POLICING. AS WAS MENTIONED BY
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, WE ARE AT
INCREDIBLY LOW RATES OF
OFFICERS. AND SEVERAL OF THE
PUBLIC COMMENTS MENTIONED HOW
LOW WE ARE ON POLICE OFFICERS.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE TO
BRIDGE THE GAP. THE GOAL IS
PRECISION POLICING. MAKING WHAT
WE HAVE BETTER AND MORE
EFFICIENT AT WHAT THEY NEED TO
DO. THAT'S A FIVE STEP
PROCESS. THE FIRST IS TO
RESPOND QUICKLY. THESE
TECHNOLOGIES WILL GIVE US THE
ABILITY TO RESPOND WITHOUT
GETTING ON SCENE YET. WE WILL
BE GETTING REALTIME INFORMATION
TO THE UNITS EN ROUTE TO MAKE
SURE THEY ARE BETTER AND WELL
INFORMED WHEN THEY ARRIVE ON
THE SCENE. INVESTIGATING
THOROUGHLY IS THE SECOND PART.
THAT MEANS THAT BY UTILIZING
THE FOOTAGE THAT IS AVAILABLE,
WE WILL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY
SUSPECTS MORE EFFECTIVELY. AND
THAT IS THE THIRD PART OF THIS
WHICH IS IDENTIFYING OFFENDERS
CORRECTLY. IT IS NOT JUST
OFFENDERS WE NEED TO IDENTIFY,
HOWEVER. WE MAY NEED ASSISTANCE
IN IDENTIFYING VICTIMS. OR
WITNESSES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN
THESE VARIOUS INCIDENTS AS
WELL. THE FOURTH STEP IS
ARRESTING SAFELY. WHEN WE HAVE
BETTER INFORMATION, IT LEAD TO
MORE DESIRABLE OUTCOMES. IF WE
KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING AT A
SCENE, WE CAN MAKE BETTER PLANS
TO ARREST IN A SAFER FASHION.
THE LAST PIECE OF THE PRECISION
POLICING IS TO PROSECUTE
SUCCESSFULLY. AND BY USING THE
EVIDENCE THAT IS COLLECTED
THROUGH THE RTCC AND THE CLOSED
CIRCUIT TV SYSTEMS, WE ARE ABLE
TO PRESENT A CLEARER MORE
ACCURATE CASE FOR THE
PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE FOR THE
JUDGE, FOR THE JURY TO CONSIDER
WHAT IS GOING ON AND MAKE THEIR
BETTER INFORMED DECISIONS AT
TRIAL AS WELL.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
MEASURING THE PERFORMANCE
OUTCOMES OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES,
THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL WILL BE RETAINING AN
EXPERT TO STUDY THE
EFFECTIVENESS. THEY WILL BE
WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
PERFORMANCES ANALYTICS AND
RESEARCH UNIT. WITH ACCESS TO A
LARGE SCALE RESEARCH NETWORK
THAT CAN ASSIST IN THIS
PROCESS. THE SPECIFIC OUTCOMES
ARE REPORTED CRIME RATES AND
TRENDS IN THE GEOGRAPHIC ZONES
THAT ARE IDENTIFIED. POLICE
ACTIONS INCLUDING ARRESTS,
CITATIONS, RECOVERED VEHICLES
AND GUNS. CRIME CLEARANCE
RATES. AND THE COMMUNITY
PERCEPTIONS. WE WANT PEOPLE TO
FEEL SAFER AND BE SAFER. IT IS
IMPORTANT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC
INFORMED AS TO HOW WE ARE DOING
THIS AND HOW WE ARE USING THIS
TECHNOLOGY. WE DON'T OPERATE
IN THE DARK. WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT EVERYBODY SEES WHAT
WE ARE DOING AND HAS CONFIDENCE
THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THEIR
RIGHTS WHILE WE ARE MAKING SURE
THAT THEY ARE SAFE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AND UNLESS, I WILL HAND IT OVER
TO THE COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF
FOR THOUGHTS AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COUNCIL
MEMO THAT YOU HAD TO INCLUDE
THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS. AND
PILOT PARAMETERS. VERY HELPFUL
AS YOU WILL SEE IN SOME OF THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE WILL BE
GOING THROUGH TODAY. SO IF YOU
HAVE A BRIEF KIND OF SUMMARY
YOU CAN ADD, YES, THANK YOU
CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE THE
COMMUNITY. I AM GOING TO GIVE
YOU A VERY ABBREVIATED SUMMARY
OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED. ONCE
AGAIN, THESE WOULD AUTHORIZE
THE MAYOR TECHNOLOGY CRIME
PREVENTION PILOT WITH THE BILL
WE ARE DISCUSSING. APPROVING
AND ACCEPTING THE USE OF THE
REALTIME CRIME SOFTWARE. AND
APPROVING THE USE OF THE CCTV
CAMERA SYSTEMS. THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF CC TV IS
DEPENDENT ON ALSO HAVING
AUTHORIZATION FOR THE RTCC
SOFTWARE. THE SPEAKING TO THE
DURATION OF THE AUTHORIZATION,
THE CCTV SYSTEM SIR
AUTHORIZATION WOULD
INDEFINITELY AUTHORIZE SPD TO
RUN THIS PILOT. THERE ARE
MILESTONES AT YEAR ONE AND YEAR
TWO WITH REGARD TO REPORTING.
THE SIR DOES NOT INCLUDE A FIRM
END DATE ON THAT PILOT. IT
WOULD BE A CONTINUOUS
AUTHORIZATION. IN TERMS OF THE
FISCAL IMPACT, THERE'S $1.5
MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED IN
THE 2024 BUDGET FOR THIS PILOT
PROGRAM TAKEN TOGETHER. THERE
MAY BE ADDITIONAL ASSOCIATED
PERSONNEL THAT WILL BE ONCE
IMPLEMENTATION IS GOING. OF
THAT $1.5 MILLION APPROPRIATED
IN 2024, 1.1 WAS ORIGINALLY
ALLOCATED TO THE REALTIME CRIME
CENTER. AND $400,000 WHICH
ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED FOR AN
ACCUSIC GUNSHOT SYSTEM.
SUBSEQUENTLY, THE PROPOSAL FOR
THE GUNSHOT LOCATION SYSTEM WAS
WITHDRAWN SO THAT IS NOT PART
OF THIS PILOT. THERE WAS A
PROVISO ATTACHED THAT WILL BE
LIFTED BY THIS LEGISLATION. THE
MEMO OUTLINES VARIOUS POLICY
CONSIDERATIONS RELATED TO THE
PILOT TIME LINE AND PARAMETERS.
THE DATA RISKS. IF I MIGHT, I
WILL ALSO PROVIDE A BRIEF
OVERVIEW OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT
HAVE BEEN FILED AND I WILL TAKE
THAT ONE BILL AT A TIME SINCE I
BELIEVE WE ARE OFFICIALLY
CONSIDERING 120845 ON THE
REALTIME CRIME CENTER AT THIS
MOMENT. SO I WILL HOLD OFF ON
THE AMENDMENTS TO CCTV UNTIL
THAT IS UP.
>> THANK YOU. I SHOULD NOTE,
TOO, THAT, LITTLE BIT. REALTIME
CRIME CENTER THEN CCTV, BUT IN
TERMS OF COUNCIL BILL ORDERING,
JUST SO PEOPLE DON'T GO TO
THAT SEQUENTIAL NUMBER AND DO
THE SAME WITH THE TWO PROGRAMS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY .
>> AS I MENTIONED THERE ARE
FIVE AMENDMENTS FILED FOR
120845 REALTIME CRIME CENTER
AUTHORIZATION. AMENDMENT ONE
WOULD ESSENTIALLY TECHNICAL
CHANGE, IT WOULD REMOVE FROM
RECITALS, BEING A NON-LEGALLY
ENFORCEABLE. REMOVE MENTION OF
THE CITY AUDITOR. THIS CHANGE
IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL
INTENT OF THE PILOT TOTHE OIG,
OUTSIDE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS
RETAINED AS WELL. AMENDMENT 2
WOULD ADDRESS VENDOR
CONTRACTING FOR THE REALTIME
CRIME CENTER SOFTWARE
TECHNOLOGY. THIS WOULD REQUEST
THAT SPD REQUIRES CERTAIN
CONTRACT TERMS AND ANY CONTRACT
EXECUTED WITH A THIRD PARTY
VENDOR. THEY WOULD BE DESIGNED
TO HELP PROTECT DATA OWNED AND
HELD BY THE THIRD PARTY
CONTRACTOR. SEEKING THIS DATA,
AND A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY
RETAIN LEGAL COUNCIL TO
CHALLENGE ANY SUCH WARRANT
WOULD BE SUBPOENA. THE
AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE SPD TO
NOTIFY COUNCIL UPON RECEIPT OF
ANY INFORMATION RELATED TO A
VENDOR WARRANT OR SUBPOENA AND
REQUIRE SPD PROVIDE THE COUNCIL
WITH THE CONTRACT. ONCE
EXECUTED BUT NO LATER THAN
DECEMBER 31st OF 2024.
AMENDMENT 3 TO THE REALTIME
CRIME CENTER WOULD SUBSTITUTE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT
EFFECTIVELY EXPANDING THE SCOPE
OF THE NORTH AURORA AVENUE SITE
TO 85th AND AURORA AT THE
SOUTHBOUND RE. AND 145th STREET
IN AURORA AT THE NORTHBOUND RE.
THAT IS AN EXPANSION FROM THE
ORIGINAL SCOPE OF 95th TO
130th. THAT SIR, SUBSTITUTED
SIR INCLUDES REVISED MAPS
REFLECTING THIS EXPANSION.
AMENDMENT 4 WOULD ADDRESS THE
INTEGRATION OF PRIVATE CAMERAS
INTO A REALTIME CRIME CENTER.
THIS AMENDMENT ESSENTIALLY
REQUIRES SPD TO REPORT BACK TO
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ON
THE PLAN AND POLICIES FOR
INTEGRATION OF PRIVATE CAMERAS
PRIOR TO UTILIZING SUCH A
FEATURE OF THE REALTIME CRIME
CENTER SOFTWARE. AMENDMENT 5
WOULD REQUIRE SPD TO REPORT
BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE WHEN THE EVALUATION
OF THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE. AND
THAT WILL BE CONDUCTED AT THE
END OF 2025 AND 2026'S
DETAILED AND SURVEILLANCE
IMPACT REPORT. THOSE ARE THE
AMENDMENTS FOR 120845 WHICH
AUTHORIZES THE USE OF REALTIME
CRIME CENTER SOFTWARE. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR.
JOHNSON. AND ACTUALLY
EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU ALSO FOR BEING HERE
AND BEING A RESOURCE FOR THESE
AS WE GO THROUGH AMENDMENTS.
WITH THAT, I MOVE THE PASSAGE
OF THE BILL. IT IS MOVED AND
SECONDED TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE
OF THE BILL. ARE THERE ANY
GENERAL COMMENTS SINCE WE DO
HAVE A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS BY
ANYONE HERE? AT THE DAIS? OKAY.
WE WILL MOVE INTO THE
AMENDMENTS. I MOVE TO AMEND
COUNCIL BILL 120845 AS
PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT 1.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. IT IS MOVED AND
SECONDED TO ADOPT AMENDMENT 1.
CENTRAL STAFF IS RECOGNIZED. WE
HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT UNLESS
YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.
THANK YOU.
AS MENTIONED BY MR. JOHNSON,
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT ONE?
NO? WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON THE ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT ONE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
>> AMENDMENT ONE IS ADOPTED.
THANK YOU. NOW TO AMENDMENT
TWO. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, WOULD
YOU LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT
NUMBER TWO?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR,
SO I MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL
120845 AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT 2. ARE THERE ANY
SECONDS?
>> SECOND.
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> THANK YOU.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
ADOPT AMENDMENT 2. CENTRAL
STAFF HAS ALREADY DESCRIBED
THIS AMENDMENT. AS SPONSOR
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED TO ADDRESS IT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I,
TOO, SHARE A NUMBER, THE
CONCERNS ARTICULATED ABOUT THE
STORAGE OF THIS DATA. ON THIRD
PARTY WEBSITE BY A THIRD PARTY
VENDOR. AND ACCESS TO
REPRODUCTIVE CARE, HEALTH CARE,
IMMIGRATION, TRANSGENDER CARE.
BY OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT DO
NOT SUPPORT THE INDIVIDUAL'S
RIGHT TO PURSUE THAT KIND OF
CARE AND I BROUGHT THIS
AMENDMENT TO THE ALPR
LEGISLATION. THIS IS THE EXACT
SAME AMENDMENT WHICH IS
BASICALLY REQUIRING SPD TO
INCLUDE IN THEIR CONTRACT WITH
THE VENDOR THAT THEY WILL BE
NOTIFIED IF THOSE ACTIONS ARE
TAKEN BY OUTSIDE JURISDICTIONS.
AND REQUIRE THE OUTSIDE VENDOR
TO SEEK LEGAL COUNCIL AND LET
US KNOW ABOUT THE OUTCOME SO WE
CAN BE TRACKING WHETHER OR NOT
THIS IS. IF THE LEGITIMATE FEAR
IS COMING TO PASS AND HOW WE
DEAL WITH IT GOING FORWARD. I
DID WANT TO THANK DEMASO FOR
YOUR HELP ON GETTING THE
AMENDMENTS TOGETHER SO QUICKLY.
>> THANK YOU, THIS IS A
FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND I JUST
WANTED TO NOTE AS NOTED IN THE
PREVIOUS MEETING, ALPR WAS VERY
HELPFUL IN TERMS OF HOW WE ARE
GOING THROUGH THIS. ON THIS
TOPIC, TOO, I JUST WANTED TO
ADD THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT
THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP.
IS READING THROUGH THE WORKING
REPORT. AND MR. LLOYD. IT
HIGHLIGHTS UNTIL DATA IS
EXTRACTED FROM CCT SYSTEMS, IT
IS TEMPORARILY STORED ON THE
DEVICE. AND VIDEO CAMERAS WILL
BE KEPT FOR 30 DAYS AND NOT
KEPT LONGER. THAT WAS MENTIONED
EARLIER IN THE BRIEF. SO IN
LARGE PART, THE DATA WILL
REMAIN ON THE CAMERA SYSTEM
UNLESS PULLED WHICH I THINK
THEN WOULD TRIGGER THE CONCERNS
AND WHAT THIS WILL ADDRESS. IS
THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE
TO ADD? THAT IS NOT SOMETHING
THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT THUS
FAR AND I WONDERED IF YOU COULD
SPEAK TO THAT.
>> CERTAINLY, SIR. THE FOOTAGE
IS STORED ON THE DEVICE AT THE
LOCATION OF THE CAMERA. THAT IS
IN PLAY FOR ALL CAMERAS THE
BENEFIT THERE IS THAT THE
RECORD ON THE CAMERA IS STORES
ANYWHERE 10 TO 30 DAYS. THE
LIMITS OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND
THE SYSTEM. IT WILL BE NO
LONGER THAN 30 DAYS. ONCE THE
FOOTAGE IS DEEMED NOT VALUABLE,
IF IT SAT THERE TEN DAYS AND WE
HAVEN'T USED IT, THAT FOOTAGE
IS THEN OVERWRITTEN WITH THE
NEXT SERIES OF FOOTAGE. SIMILAR
TO SECURITY CAMERAS AT PRIVATE
LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT TIME. ONCE
IT IS MOVED INTO THE VIDEO
EVIDENCE LOCKER, IT IS SUBJECT
TO OUR DIGITAL EVIDENCE RULES.
STORING IT ON THE SITE ALLOWS
IT TO BE TRANSITORY IN NATURE
AND HELD A SHORT PERIOD OF
TIME. SO THE CTCO RESPONSE IS
ACCURATE.
>> IT IS GERMANE AND REALLY
IMPORTANT GIVEN THE CONCERNS OF
THE RIGHTFUL CONCERNS OF MANY
TO INCLUDE COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS?
>> CHAIR KETTLE IF I COULD
ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE
HELPFUL.
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
PITCH IN HERE. LACED ON THE
LAST AMENDMENT, WE HAVE GONE
BACK AND STARTED THE
CONTRACTING PROCESS WITH AXON.
OUR STRATEGY WAS TO MOVE IT
OUTSIDE OF THE PRODUCT SPECIFIC
LANGUAGE INTO THE MASTER
CONTRACT. ONCE THIS GETS FULLY
HAMMERED OUT AND AGREED TO,
THIS WILL APPLY TO ALL THE
PRODUCTS. BODY WORN CAMERA,
CCTV INFORMATION. SO WE
ABSOLUTELY WELCOME THE
AMENDMENT BUT WE ARE TRYING TO
HAVE IT APPLIED TO ALL OF OUR
SYSTEMS. WE ADDED IN
IMMIGRATION AS ONE OF THE
CATEGORIES ON ALPR. THAT WOULD
BE THE SAME LANGUAGE FOR THE
MASTER CONTRACT ACROSS THE
BOARD.
>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE
THAT. AND IT GOES VERY GERMANE
AND VERY ON POINT AND GOES TO
THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE ARE
LOOKING TO DO. I UNDERSTAND
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO. SO
THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
SO THANK YOU MR. MAXEY. ALL
RIGHT, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FAVE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU. AMENDMENT NUMBER
TWO IS ADOPTED. CONTINUING WITH
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER THREE?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MOVE
TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL 120845 AS
PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT 3.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
>> SO, THIS AMENDMENT EXPANDS
THE PROPOSED NORTH AURORA
AVENUE CCTV PILOT SITE FROM THE
ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. I ASK IT BE
EXPANDED FROM 85th TO 145th.
THE BOUNDARIES OF DISTRICT 5.
THEY ARE ALSO THE BOUNDARIES OF
WHAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORIC
COMMERCIAL SEXUAL EXPLOITATION
TRACK AND THERE HAS BEEN
SIGNIFICANT CRIME BELOW THE
95th STREET LEVEL.
TWO-AND-A-HALF WEEKS AGO THERE
WAS AN INTENTIONAL ARSON OFF OF
90th AND NESBITT CAPTURED BY
PRIVATE CAMERAS. THERE HAVE
BEEN A NUMBER OF SHOOTINGS SO
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT NEED TO
CAPTURE ALL OF THAT ADDITIONAL
ACTIVITY. SO THAT IS WHY I'M
BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. ARE THE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS FROM COLLEAGUES?
REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT?
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, TWO
THINGS, THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF
THIS AREA. TWO, I WOULD THINK
IS THIS AS PER SPD'S ABILITY
TO FIRST THE BUDGET ISSUE IN
TERMS OF INCREASED COST. AND
THEN THE TIME AND ABILITY TO DO
IT. THAT WOULD BE TO SPD'S
DISCRETION IN TERMS OF FIELDING
IT. IS THERE ANYTHING RELATED
TO THAT, THAT NEED TO BE
CONSIDERED OR SPOKEN TO?
>> SO I WILL LET THEM SPEAK TO
THAT. THERE WAS NO OBJECTION TO
EXPANDING THE AREA BUT I WOULD
NEED TO COME UP WITH THE FUNDS
TO ADD THE CAMERAS AND THE
BLOCKS THAT ARE BEING EXPANDED
SO I WILL BE BRINGING THAT
REQUEST TO BUDGET. CERTAINLY.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? BY
THE WAY, I DO CONSIDER THIS A
FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. BUT IT DOES
HAVE THE BUDGE. IS THERE
ANYTHING ELSE?
>> NOT AT ALL. THERE IS
ABSOLUTELY NO OPPOSITION TO IT.
IT IS SIMPLY A BUDGET ISSUE.
>> ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL
PRESIDENT?
>> I WANT TO NOTE, I WAS IN A
COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE
NORTH SEATTLE INDUSTRIAL
ASSOCIATION TAKING ABOUT OUR
PUBLIC SAFETY EFFORTS AND WHEN
LEGISLATION AND
SAID THAT IT IS TOO BAD IT
DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO
AURORA BRIDGE. AND THAT BECAUSE
OF THE IMPACTS OF THE
COMMERCIAL SEXUAL EXPLOITATION
ON THE AREA AROUND BF DAY SO I
WANTED TO SAY I BELIEVE THAT
YOUR REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH
WHAT I AM HEARING WHEN I CAULK
TO FOLKS. THERE IS PORT FOR
EXPANDING OUR EFFORTS IN
GENERAL. AND IT IS A BUDGET
ISSUE I SUPPOSE, BUT AT THE
SAME TIME, I WANT TO JUST NOTE
THAT I SUSPECT THAT THERE WILL
BE REQUESTS GOING FORWARD THAT
THERE IS AN EXPANSION OF THIS
TECHNOLOGY SO WE'LL HAVE TO
DEAL WITH THAT. BUT JUST
REPRESENTING WHAT I'M HEARING
OUT THERE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I SHOULD NOTE ON THAT, KIND OF
LIKE WITH THE SODA BILL. THIS
COMMITTEE IS REALLY LOOKING AT
IN TERMS OF DATA DRIVEN AND HOT
SPOTS, THE CRIME DATA NEEDS TO
DRIVE THIS. THAT IS IMPORTANT
IN TERMS OF ANY TECHNOLOGY.
THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE
COMMITTEE'S OVERSIGHT RULE. SO
DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE
EXTENSION IN THIS AMENDMENT. WE
HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT WE
CANNOT DO THAT. ANY OTHER WORK
IN THE FUTURE JUST LIKE SODA
WILL BE BASED ON WHAT THE DATA
IS TELLING US. I ALSO WANT TO
NOTE, ONE THING THAT COMES UP
IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND CAME
UP IN THE COMMUNITY
SURVEILLANCE WORK GROUP. ONE
THING I NOTED IN THAT COMMITTEE
MEETING IS THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL DOES AN INCREDIBLE
AMOUNT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH. WHAT
COUNCIL PRESIDENT WAS REFERRING
TO WAS SOMETHING WE ALL DO ON A
REGULAR BASIS. IN TERMS OF THE
DOWNTOWN CORE. WALK ABOUTS,
RIDE ALONGS, ALL OF THE ABOVE.
COMMUNITY GROUPS, CHURCH
GROUPS. WHOLE DIFFERENT SETS.
THAT IS SOMETHING NOT REALLY
CAPTURED IS THE FACT THAT OUR
OPINIONS AND OUR THOUGHTS AND
QUESTIONS ARE INFORMED BY
COUNTLESS INTERACTIONS. WITH
THAT, CLERK, PLEASE REMIND ME
IF WE VOTED FOR COUNCIL THREE.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 3.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR AND ZERO
OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU. AMENDMENT 3 IS
ADOPTED.
' MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL
123-0845 AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT 4.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND.
VICE CHAIR IS MOVED AND
SECONDED TO ADOPT NUMBER 4.
CENTRAL STAFF HAS SPOKEN TO IT.
I'M THE SPONSOR OF THIS BILL.
AS SOMEBODY WHO IS STILL A
BLOCK WATCH CAPTAIN FOR HIS
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MEMBER OF THE
BROADER QUEEN ANNE BLOCK WATCH
AND THE BUSINESS WATCH AND THE
LIKE, IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO
HAVE THE OUTREACH TO THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY PARTICULARLY
AS IT RELATES TO AMENDMENT
NUMBER 4. AND THIS AMENDMENT IS
JUST TO BASICALLY DOUBLE CHECK
AND TO GET A SENSE OF
ESSENTIALLY CREATING A BUSINESS
WATCH IS HOW I LOOK AT IT.
HAVING BUSINESSES VOLUNTEER AND
OTHERS VOLUNTEER TO HAVE A PART
OF A GROUP TO BE CALLED UPON IF
SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN IF THE
RTCC NOTICES SOMETHING TO
QUICKLY BE IN CONTACT AS
OPPOSED TO AN OFFICER GOING
OUT, KNOCKING ON DOORS, TRYING
TO CONTACT PEOPLE. THIS WILL
AID IN OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND
BUT THIS AMENDMENT IS REALLY
JUST TO GET, THIS IS AN
EXPANSION IF YOU WILL. IT IS
IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMITTEE TO
HAVE WHICH NECK IN. ANY
QUESTIONS? OR COMMENTS?
CLEARLY, IT IS A FRIENDLY
AMENDMENT SINCE I SPONSORED IT.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMENT,
BUT IF THERE IS ANY COMMENT
FROM SPD, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO
SO.
NOPE. OKAY. CLERK, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON AMENDMENT 4.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
>> AMENDMENT FOUR IS ADOPTED.
NOW MOVING TO THE LAST
AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT FIVE, IT
IS MOVED, I MOVE TO AMEND
COUNCIL BILL 123-0845 AS
PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT 5.
120845.
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED.
CENTRAL STAFF SPOKEN TO THIS.
ARE THERE ANY, I'LL SPEAK TO
IT AGAIN. THIS IS IN TERMS OF
OUR OVERSIGHT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY WHICH IS REALLY
IMPORTANT. THIS CAME UP IN
PRIVATE COMMENT. IT IS
IMPORTANT TO HAVE THESE CHECK
INS. AND HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY
FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THESE
REPORTS IN TERMS OF HOW WE ARE
GOING AS A PILOT PROJECT. SO
THAT IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. THAT
IS THE DRIVER FOR AMENDMENT
NUMBER FIVE. ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON NUMBER
FIVE?
>> CHAIR, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO
COMMEND YOU FOR BRINGING THESE
ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY
AMENDMENTS. I THINK THEY ARE
IMPORTANT. I APPRECIATE THAT
YOU TAKE THESE ISSUES SERTOLI.
AND YOU ARE RESPONDING TO
COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. SO THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. NOT SEEING
ANY HANDS. OKAY. CLERK, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PRESIDENT
NELSON.
>> AYE .
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A WALK ON
AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT SIX. IS
THAT RIGHT? NOPE? OH, THAT'S
THE OTHER BILL. OH.
OKAY, SO WE WILL SKIP THAT. SO
NOW, LET ME GO BACK TO MY
ORIGINAL SCRIPT. WE HAVE
AMENDMENTS.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON BILLS
AS AMENDED? VICE CHAIR SAKA.
>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING FORTH THIS LEGISLATION
AND ALSO, A SPECIAL THANKS TO
MAYOR HARRELL, HIS OFFICE. AND,
THE VARIOUS EXECUTIVE
DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING SPD FOR
THEIR WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT
PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE. THE
EXECUTIVE HAS INITIATED A
ROBUST PROCESS WITH A DETAILED
70 PLUS PAGE SURVEILLANCE AND
IMPACT REPORT. IT ADDRESSES THE
NUMBER OF PRIVACY CONCERNS AS
WELL AS POTENTIAL DISPARATE ON R
. VIOLENCE CRIME IMPACTS PEOPLE
OF COLOR DISPROPORTIONATELY.
AND, AS SHARED WITH THIS
COUNCIL, SHOOTING EVENTS THIS
YEAR TO DATE HAVE SHOWN THAT
58% OF VICTIMS WERE PEOPLE OF
COLOR. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT GUN
VIOLENCE IS UP WHILE POLICE
STAFFING LEVELS ARE AT HISTORIC
LOWS AND DEPLORABLE LOWS.
THE EVALUATIONS OF THE PILOT
PROGRAM INCLUDED IN THIS BILL
AS AMENDED.
SO, LIKE ALL MATTERS CONCERNING
COMMUNITY SAFETY, I ALWAYS
MAINTAINED A YES AND APPROACH.
AND, THAT IS IS WHAT WE ARE
DOING HERE. I'M PROUD TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL AS AMENDED
HERE TODAY.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL
PRESIDENT?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM IN
FULL SUPPORT OF THIS
LEGISLATION, THIS PACKAGE OF
TECHNOLOGY WAS APPROVED BY THE
LAST COUNCIL IN THE
DELIBERATIONS IN BUDGET
DELIBERATIONS OF 2023 FOR THIS
THIS YEAR AND NEXT. THIS HAS
BEEN BEFORE COUNCIL A LONG
TIME. I JUST PROVIDED THAT
HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE FOR
INFORMATION. WE HAD TO GO
THROUGH THE SIR PROCESS.
SO I WANTED TO NOTE AGAIN, I
WANT TODAY RESPECT IN
ORGANIZATIONS FOCUSED ON CIVIL
LIBERTIES. WE AS COUNCIL HAVE
TO BALANCE THAT CONCERN WITH
OTHER CONCERNS AND THE SAFETY.
AND HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF
CONSTITUENTS. WE ARE THREADING
THIS NEEDLE. AND WE ARE DEALING
WITH A SHORTAGE OF OFFICERS AND
RAPIDLY DEVELOPING
TECHNOLOGIES. I MISSED LAST
WEEK'S MEETING BECAUSE I WAS
IN WASHINGTON DC FOR THE
NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES
CONFERENCE FOR THE PRESIDENTS
OF CITY COUNCILS OF LARGE
CITIES AND IT REALLY IS
INTERESTING WHEN YOU GET
OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF SEATTLE
AND YOU SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES
ARE DOING, IT GIVES YOU A
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OR A
BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND WE
TOURED THE REALTIME CRIME
CENTER. THEY CALL IT SOMETHING
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IN DC. WHERE
THEY ARE USING CCTV AND OTHER
SOFTWARE IN ADDITION TO GUN.
THE TECHNOLOGY THAT GOES BY THE
BRAND NAME OF SHOT SPOTTER. MY
POINT IS THAT THIS IS A CITY
KNOWN TO BE EXTREMELY
PROGRESSIVE AND THEY HAVE
EMPLOYED THIS TECHNOLOGY ACROSS
THE WAY. AND I MUST SAY THAT
SEATTLE NEEDS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
AND BE ALSO GET WITH THE
PROGRAM AND RECOGNIZE THIS CAN
HELP AND WE ARE PUTTING
IMPORTANT SAFEGUARDS ON ITS
USE. AND I WILL BE IN SUPPORT
OF THIS. SO THAT IS MY POINT.
THIS IS HAPPENING IN
PROGRESSIVE CITIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AND I JUST WANTED TO
REPRESENT THAT PERSPECTIVE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO YES. SO
FOR COUNCIL BILL 123-0845, THE
REALTIME CRIME CENTER, I WANTED
TO NOTE BEFORE VOTING, WHAT THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT WAS TALKING
ABOUT, THE OVERSIGHT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY PIECES ARE VERY
IMPORTANT. AND THAT THEY
REFLECT SEATTLE'S VALUES AND I
THINK IN TERMS OF THE
INTERACTION AND THE ANSWERS
THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN, HAVE
PUT THOSE INTO PLAY. ONE OF THE
THINGS I HEAR IN TERMS OF
SOMETIMES THE OPPOSITION, IT IS
TAKING IT FROM ANOTHER TIME SO
I WANTED TO NOTE RELATE TODAY
THE CONSENT DECREE, AS I DID AT
ALL FIVE PRECINCTS, YES, THERE
IS A REASON WHY WE HAVE A
CONSENT DECREE. AND WE CANNOT,
WE ALWAYS HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT. YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
ALL THE WORK DONE THROUGH THE
CONSENT DECREE PERIOD. THE LAST
DOZEN YEARS. IN TERMS OF
BUILDING A FORCE, BUILDING AN
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM WITH OUR
ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS. THIS
IS REALLY UNIQUE AMONG ALL THE
CITIES. EVEN AMONG THE CITIES
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT WAS
TALKING ABOUT AND WE HAVE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THIS AND THAT WAS
THE RATIONALE AND THE MOVING
FORWARD. AND BY THE WAY, WE
WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THE
CONSENT DECREE EVEN ONCE IT IS
DONE ALONG THESE LINES. AND WE
NEED TO BUILD AND SUPPORT OUR
ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS AND
PARTICULARLY, IN THIS CASE, OIG
BECAUSE IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING
HERE WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY. AND
ENGAGED WITH THE VENDOR AND
ACROSS THE ELEMENTS OF
GOVERNMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE
ARE MOVING FORWARD AND SMARTLY
AS IT RELATES TO TECH ADVANCES.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO RESTATE
ONE MORE TIME THE OUTREACH WE
HAVE BEEN DOING. AS CANDIDATES,
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE DONE. AS
WE MOVE FORWARD. WITH ALL THE
POINTS MADE, I AM OBVIOUSLY
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BILL. WILL
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE BILL
TO PASS 120845 AS AMENDED?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FAIR IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMUNITY RECOMMENDATION THAT
THE BILL PASS AS AMENDED WILL
BE SENT TO THE OCTOBER 8th CITY
COUNCIL MEETING. NOW WE WILL
MOVE ONTO THE SECOND ITEM OF
BUSINESS.
>> COUNCIL BILL 120844. AN
ORDINANCE RELATED TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
AUTHORIZING APPROVAL OF USES
AND ACCEPTING THE 2024
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT AND
2024 EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW OF THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
USE OF CLOSED CIRCUIT
TELEVISION CAMERA SYSTEMS.
AMENDS ORDINANCE 1 # 26955
WHICH ADOPTED THE 2024 BUDGET
AND LIFTING A PROVISO.
>> I RECOMMEND THE MOVING OF
PASSAGE OF 120844. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
ARE THERE ANY GENERAL COMMENTS
AS WE DO HAVE AMENDMENTS FOR
THIS BILL AS WELL.
OKAY. WE WILL MOVE DIRECTLY
INTO AMENDMENTS. I MOVE TO
AMEND 120844 AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT NUMBER 1.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. THIS AMENDMENT IS
A TECHNICAL FIX. IT HAS ALREADY
BEEN SPOKEN TO. ANY QUESTIONS
ON COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER
ONE? HEARING AND SEEING NONE,
WILL THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR.
>> AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE IS
ADOPTED. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE
AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO?
>> YES. I MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL
BILL 120844 AS PRESENTED IN
AMENDMENT TWO.
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
ADOPT AMENDMENT NUMBER 2.
CENTRAL STAFF HAS TO IT.
ACTUALLY, WE HAVE NOT DONE
THAT.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. AS YOU
MENTIONED, YOUR AMENDMENT ONE
WAS SUBSTANTIATIVELY IDENTICAL
TO THE AMENDMENT ON 120855. IT
IS LARGELY IDENTICAL TO THE
AMENDMENT PASSED ON 845 THAT
JUST NAMES THE CONTRACT FOR
CLOSED CIRCUIT. NAMED THE
CONTRACT FOR REALTIME CRIME
CENTER SOFTWARE. BUT, OTHER
THAN THAT, THE AMENDMENT IS
SUBSTANTIATIVELY IDENTICAL IN
TERMS OF REQUESTING THE SAME
CONTRACT TERMS.
>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS?
>> HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE,.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE,.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
NOW WE MOVE ONTO NUMBER THREE.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER
THREE?
>> I MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL
120844 AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT 3.
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
ADOPT AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE.
CENTRAL STAFF, I WON'T FORGET
THIS TIME, IS RECOGNIZED TO
DESCRIBE AMENDMENT NUMBER
THREE.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR. ONCE AGAIN,
THIS IS SUBSTANTIATIVELY
IDENTICAL TO THE NORTH AURORA
AVENUE EXPANSION AMENDMENT.
CON FIGURE ED. REALTIME CRIME
CENTER INCLUDED DESCRIPTION AND
MAPS OF THE PROPOSED PILOT
SITES FOR CCTV. SO THIS
AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY TO
AFFECT CHEW WAIT.
>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER
THREE? HEARING NONE, SEEING
NONE, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON ADOPTION OF
AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FAVOR FIVE, NONE OPPOSED.
>> AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE IS
ADOPTED. MOVING TO AMENDMENT
NUMBER FOUR. VICE CHAIR SAKA,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE
AMENDMENT NUMBER 4, VERSION
TWO?
>> I MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL
120844 AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT NUMBER 4, VERSION TWO
WHICH WAS RECENTLY DISTRIBUTED.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. IT IS MOVED AND
SECONDED TO ADOPT.
BRIEFLY AMENDMENT 4 IS
ORIGINALLY FILED, DIRECTS THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS
PART OF THE PLANNED EVALUATION.
TO STUDY THE APPROPRIATENESS,
FEASIBILITY AND COST TO
POTENTIAL CCTV CAMERA
DEPLOYMENTS AND OTHER AREAS OF
THE CITY OUTSIDE OF THOSE
IDENTIFIED FOR THIS PILOT
INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
THE ALKI AND HARBOR AVENUE
AREAS OF WEST SEATTLE. THE ONLY
CHANGE IS IT DIRECTS SPD AS
PART OF THIS REPORT STUDY TO
EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL USE OF
CLOSED CIRCUIT TELEVISION
CAMERAS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
CONCERNS AND CATEGORIES OF
CRIME, OUTSIDE OF THOSE
CURRENTLY INCLUDED IN THE PILOT
AS A REMINDER. THE PILOT IS
FOCUSED ON GUN VIOLENCE, HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND OTHER
PERSISTENT CRIMES AND FELONY
CRIMES SO THIS AMENDMENT WOULD
ASK SPD. IT WOULD NOT CHANGE
THE SCOPE OF THE PILOT.
>> THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON.
>> MY AMENDMENT NUMBER 4,
VERSION 2 DIRECTS THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO EVALUATE THE
APPROPRIATENESS OF EXPANDING
CCTV DEPLOYMENTS. TO OTHER
KNOWN PROBLEM AREAS OF THE CITY
INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
ALKI AND HARBOR AVENUE IN WEST
SEATTLE. AS WELL AS EXPLORE THE
POTENTIAL USE AND DEPLOYMENT OF
CCTV TO ADDRESS ADDITIONAL
PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS. THIS
WAS IN DIRECT LIGHT OF A
CONVERSATION I HAD OFFLINE
DIRECTLY WITH YOU, MR. CHAIR.
AND I SUPPORT THE INITIAL PILOT
DEPLOYMENT TO ADDRESS GUN
VIOLENCE, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND
THE PERSISTENT FELONY CRIMES.
THAT IS A GOOD START. BUT THERE
ARE OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY
CHALLENGES AND CONCERNS THAT WE
ALSO NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF
INCLUDING SOME OF THE PROBLEM
RACING ACTIVITY AND ASSOCIATED
CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE SEEN
WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND MY
CONSTITUENTS IN ALKI AND HARBOR
AVENUE COMMUNITIES AND SO, YES,
MR. CHAIR, I ALSO AGREE WITH
OUR EARLIER ASSESSMENT THAT OUR
DEPLOYMENT AND USE OF THESE
TECHNOLOGIES NEED TO BE GUIDED
BY DATA. THIS WOULD EXPAND THE
TYPES OF DATA WE ARE GOING TO
CAPTURE. SOME OF THE MOST
EGREGIOUS INCIDENT OF GUNS
VIOLENCE HAVE OCCURRED ALONG
THAT AREA. INCLUDING ONE ABOUT
A YEAR, YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO NOW
STILL UNSOLVED TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
A YOUNG MAN WAS TRAGICALLY
KILLED AT THE WHALE TAIL PARK
WHERE KIDS PLAY AT THE SAND
BOX. SO IN ANY EVENT, I WANT TO
THANK MY CONSTITUENTS OF
DISTRICT ONE FOR LENDING THEIR
VOICES TODAY. I APPRECIATE ALL
THE IC COMMENTS. THAT TH
SH
THE LAWLESSNESS OF ALKI AND
HARBOR VIEW REMAINS A CRITICAL
PUBLIC SAFETY CRISIS. WHAT I
CALL TOM FOOLERY. THE NONSENSE
THAT GOES ON THERE AT ALKI AND
HARBOR AVENUE HAS TO STOP. AND,
WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL TOOLS.
MY CONSTITUENTS, CLAMORS FOR
ANY USE WHATSOEVER. AUTOMATED
ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGIES TO
HELP SUPPLEMENT AND AUGMENT THE
STAFFING SHORTAGES. WHETHER
THAT IS TRUE WITH AUTOMATED
ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGIES, WE
NEED THOSE. WHETHER THAT IS
THROUGH AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT
TECHNOLOGIES, NOISE, THERE IS A
PATH THERE, WE ARE WORKING ON
IT. YES. WE NEED THOSE TWO. OR,
SIMPLY MONITORING A KNOWN
PROBLEM AREA. THINGS VERY
QUICKLY ESCALATE. MY
CONSTITUENTS ARE DEMANDING.
MINDFUL OF THE NOTABLE SECURITY
CHALLENGES. AND I THINK WE HAVE
SOME GOOD MITIGATIONS IN PLACE
TO ADDRESS THOSE. BUT WHAT'S
GOING ON HAS TO STOP. AND ALSO,
I WANT TO THANK CAPTAIN BRIT.
HE SAYS THIS TECHNOLOGY SEEKS
TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY PER
SPENCES. OF PERCEPTION. WE WANT
PEOPLE TO FEEL SAFER. IS
DEPLOYMENT OF THESE
TECHNOLOGIES INCLUDING BUT NOT
LIMITED TO HARBOR AVENUE AND
ALKI, IS THAT LIKELY GOING TO
PREVENT CRIME? MAYBE, MAYBE
NOT. PROBABLY NOT. I THINK SOME
PEOPLE WILL THINK TWICE WHEN
THEY KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE
CAPTURED AN MONITORED. AND HAVE
THAT USED AS EVIDENCE. IN THE
INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS FOLLOWING
POTENTIAL CRIME THEY MIGHT
COMMIT. BUT WILL IT HELP
CONTRIBUTE TO THE FEELINGS OF
SAFETY? IN IMPACTED AREAS? YES.
YES IT WILL. THAT PILOT PROJECT
IS TAILORED AS THE CITY
AUDITOR'S RECENT REPORT SHOWS
WE ADOPT A PLACE BASED PUBLIC
SAFETY APPROACH. SPECIFICALLY
TARGETING PLACE SPACE ACTIONS
AND SOLUTIONS. WE NEED TO BE
OPEN TO USING SUCH TECHNOLOGY
TO CREATE BETTER PUBLIC SAFETY
OUTCOMES AND TARGETED AREAS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT'S
WHY THIS AMENDMENT EXPANDS UPON
WHAT SHOULD BE EVALUATED. AND
CREATES A PATH TO DOING THAT.
THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT IN
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALKI AND
HARBOR AVENUE HAS GRAPPLED
WITH, RANGES FROM ILLEGAL
STREET RACING. SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED IN FUTURE
DEPLOYMENTS. UNDER THIS
AMENDMENT. AND RELATED CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY UP TO AND INCLUDING
GUN VIOLENCE SUCH AS THE TRAGIC
KILLING OF LUIS ANGEL, SOLIS
LARA THIS PAST JUNE AT WHAT THE
LAWLESS NESS. ANOTHER SHOOTING
THAT OCCURRED IN THE AREA THIS
PAST WEEKEND. SO COLLEAGUES,
THE CRIME ALONG THIS BEAUTIFUL
WATERFRONT. THIS BEACH AREA.
ALL THE SEATTLE AND I KNOW SOME
OF MY COLLEAGUES MIGHT
DISAGREE.
AS A POPULAR INTERNATIONAL
ATTRACTION, IT IS ALSO
SUFFERING FROM ONGOING
NIGHTMARE OF MANY RESIDENTS.
MANY ARE TRAUMATIZED. THEY
CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT FROM THE
LOUD MUSIC THAT WITH THE DRUGS
AND ALCOHOL AND GUNS ALSO
ESCALATES INTO GUN VIOLENCE.
PEOPLE'S HOMES BEING SHOT UP.
PEOPLE DYING. PEOPLE IN THAT
AREA ARE EXPERIENCING TOXIC
STRESS AND TRAUMA. AND THAT
WOULD HELP CONTRIBUTE TO SAFETY
IN THAT AREA. SO I JUST WANT TO
ECHO AND AMPLIFY AND UPLIFT THE
VOICES OF SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS.
BY THE WAY, THAT WAS AN
IN-PERSON, THIS WAS A SLIVER.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
AND, AS A WORLD LEADING
TECHNOLOGY WE ARE SEEING IN
SEATTLE, LET'S SMARTLY USE AND
DEPLOY TECHNOLOGY IDENTIFY BAD
ACTORS AND CREATE A SAFER
SEATTLE FOR ALL. IT IS
IMPORTANT WE LISTEN TO ALL
PERSPECTIVES, EVERY LAST ONE.
THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE ALKI
RESIDENTS WHO SHOWED UP TODAY.
AND WE WORKED WITH TO CREATE
THIS AMENDMENT COLLEAGUES. I
ASK FOR A YES VOTE ON THIS
AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VICE CHAIR SAKA. I
DO CONSIDER THIS TO BE A
FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. COUNCIL
PRESIDENT?
>> I'LL BE A YES VOTE. JUST
DITTO WHAT YOU SAID, SIR. I
APPRECIATE THIS LEGISLATION IS
NARROWLY TAYLORED AND DATA
DRIVEN. SO I RESPECT IT WILL
EXPAND NOT JUST THE GEOGRAPHIC
SCOPE, BUT THE KIND OF CRIMES
BEING LOOKED AT. AND I HAVE TO
SAY THAT I SUPPORT THIS. IN
PART BECAUSE WE AS COUNCIL
MEMBERS WHEN WE ARE TALKING TO
OUR CONSTITUENTS OUT THERE, IT
IS HARD FOR US TO HEAR ABOUT
REPEATED CRIMES OF A CERTAIN
NATURE OVER AND OVER AND OVER
AGAIN AND TELL THEM WELL, THAT
DOESN'T REALLY RISE TO THE
LEVEL OF THE USE OF THIS
TECHNOLOGY FOR THAT AND FILL IN
THE BLANK. FROM OUR CONSTITUENT
STANDPOINT, THEY WANT US TO
FOCUS ON WHAT IS INFRINGING
UPON THEIR SAFETY AND WELL
BEING. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THIS AMENDMENT FOR THAT REASON.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OBVIOUSLY,
I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH
VICE CHAIR SAKO ON THIS
AMENDMENT AND I THINK FROM A
GOOD GOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE AS
WE WORK THROUGH THIS PILOT AND
THE DATA, PARTICULARLY UP TO
YEAR TWO. WE SHOULD HAVE SAN
FRANCISCOS. FROM CONVERSATIONS.
WORKING WITH THE DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC SAFETY. WHAT WE CAN DO
HERE. ULTIMATELY, WE MAY OR MAY
NOT MOVE IN A CERTAIN
DIRECTION. THAT WILL COME OUT
BASED ON THE DATA, BASED ON
WHAT WE ARE SEEING ON THE
GROUND. AND WHAT'S THE POLICY
CONSIDERATION. THERE IS A THING
I KNOW CALLED THE FAS TEST.
WILL IT BE FEASIBLE,
ACCEPTABLE, AND SUITABLE?
THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO ONCE WE
GET TO THIS POINT. BUT WE
SHOULD START THAT CONVERSATION
OR THINKING ABOUT IT AND THEN
AS WE WILL COME UP IN A MY END,
THE NEXT AMENDMENT SO WE CAN
MAKE LOOK TO ADDRESS THE
CHALLENGES. THANK YOU VICE
CHAIR SAKA FOR YOUR AMENDMENT.
SO CLERK, PLEASE, CALL THE ROLL
ON ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT 4
VERSION 2.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> ALL IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU. AMENDMENT 4
VERSION 2 IS ADOPTED. I MOVE TO
AMEND COUNCIL BILL 120844 AS
PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT NUMBER
5.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU. IT IS MOVED AND
SECONDED TO ADOPT AMENDMENT
NUMBER 5. CENTRAL STAFF? YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR, AS YOU
MENTIONED, AMENDMENT 5 IS
SUBSTANTIATIVELY IDENTICAL TO
THE SIMILAR AMENDMENT TO 120845
REQUIRING SPD TO REPORT BACK TO
THIS COMMITTEE ON THE RESULTS
OF THE EVALUATION ASSESSMENTS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE CAN
SET UP MEETINGS BUT I THINK IT
IS IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY
GIVEN THE CONCERNS MENTIONED
REGARDING PRIVACY. TO HAVE THE
FORMAL CHECK INS IN THE BILL
ITSELF. I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU, AMENDMENT NUMBER
5 IS ADOPTED. AS NOTED, I GOT
AHEAD OF MYSELF BECAUSE THIS
BILL AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER
ONE DOES HAVE AN AMENDMENT
NUMBER 6, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THE WALK
ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 6?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I MOVE TO
AMEND 120844 AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT SIX.
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVE AND SECONDED TO
ADOPT AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX.
CENTRAL STAFF IS RECOGNIZED TO
DESCRIBE AMENDMENT SIX.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR. AMENDMENT
SIX TO COUNCIL BILL 120844
ADDRESSES PUBLIC RECORDS ACTS
DISCLOSURE OF CLOSED CIRCUIT
TELEVISION DATA, THE
SURVEILLANCE IMPACT REPORT FOR
THIS TECHNOLOGY NOTES THAT
UNDER THE WASHINGTON STATE
PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, CLOSED
CIRCUIT TV FOOTAGE OF THIS KIND
IS PRESUMPTIVIVELY CONSIDERED
PUBLIC RECORD AND SUBJECT TO
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUESTS.
THIS AMENDMENT INSTRUCTS THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO
ESSENTIALLY FOLLOW EXISTING
PRACTICE AND PUBLIC RECORD ACTS
EXEMPTIONS AS THEY APPLY TO
CERTAIN PROTECTIONS,
EXEMPTIONS, RELATED TO BODY
WORN VIDEO FOOTAGE.
PARTICULARLY PROTECTIONS FOR
VICTIMS OF CRIME. MINORS AND
RELATED TO HEALTH CARE
FACILITIES. EXEMPTIONS RELAER CN
BE SEEN LEAVING OR ARRIVING AT
CERTAIN HEALTH CARE FACILITIES.
SO THIS AMENDMENT INSTRUCTS SPD
TO NOT DISCLOSE CLOSED CIRCUIT
TELEVISION DATA IN RESPONSE TO
A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST IN A
MANNER INCONSISTENT WITH THESE
EXEMPTIONS AND THE EXISTING
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
PROTOCOLS DESCRIBING COMPLIANCE
WITH THOSE EXEMPTIONS. UNLESS
REQUIRED TO DO SO BY A COURT
ORDER, THE AMENDMENT ALSO
REQUIRES SPD'S LEGAL COUNCIL
TO PROMPTLY NOTE I HAVE THE
CITY COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE
LEGAL COUNCIL.
>> I APPRECIATE IT.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED TO ADDRESS IT.
>> I WILL JUST MAKE A FEW BRIEF
REMARKS.
>> THE PUBLIC NATURE OF THE
CCTV VIDEO FOOTAGE.
I APPRECIATE THAT SPD HAS A
POLICY FOR BODY WORN CAMERA
DISCLOSURE AND THEY ARE TRYING
TO BE SENSITIVE TO PRIVACY AND
THE CONCERNS WE HAVE TO
REPRODUCTIVE AND GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE AND PEOPLE HERE
AS IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES. SO,
AGAIN, THERE IS NO PERFECT
SOLUTION BUT WE ARE DOING OUR
BEST TO CREATE SOME BROAD BROAD
GUIDELINES.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER.
WITH REGARD TO THIS AMENDMENT,
ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WE HAVE
IS WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO VET
THIS WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT.
THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS. SO
I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN MAYBE
HOLD ON THIS PARTICULAR
AMENDMENT UNTIL WE HAVE HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. I JUST
DID GET NOTICE OF THIS
AMENDMENT THIS MORNING AND I
DON'T KNOW IF SPD HAS ANYTHING
MORE THEY WANT.
>> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IT
HAS BEEN VETTED BY THE LAW. AND
THEY HAVE APPROVED IT. IT IS
EXACTLY THE SAME LANGUAGE AS WE
USE FOR ALPR.
>> I WOULD SECOND THE REQUEST
TO HAVE A LITTLE ADDITIONAL
TIME. SOME OF THE EXCEPTIONS
WOULD NOT APPLY TO CCTV BECAUSE
THEY ARE STATUTORY PRIVACY
EXEMPTIONS AND I WANT TO MAKE
SURE THE LANGUAGE HERE DOES NOT
IMPLY THAT SPD WOULD BE BOOT
STRAPPING EXEMPTIONS FROM ONE
CATEGORY INTO ANOTHER WHERE
THEY MAY NOT APPLY. SPD OF
COURSE WILL APPLY THE PUBLIC
RECORDS ACT. WE WILL DO SO
DILIGENTLY. THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE
HERE GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF
PAUSE.
>> I ASK CENTRAL STAFF TO
RESPOND.
>> I'LL JUST NOTE THAT THIS
AMENDMENT WAS VETTED BY THE LAW
DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THIS
SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WAS REVIEWED.
SPD, GENERAL COUNCIL PRIOR TO
THIS BEING INTRODUCED.
>> WHAT DID THE GENERAL COUNCIL
SAY?
>> GENERAL COUNCIL WAS OKAY
WITH THIS LANGUAGE AS WRITTEN.
>> YEAH. I AM NOT INTRODUCING
THIS WITHOUT HAVING GOTTEN SIGN
OFF FROM SPD AND FROM LEGAL
COUNCIL. SO I APPRECIATE THE
CONCERNS BUT I BELIEVE THEY
HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
>> IF THE GENERAL COUNCIL IS
SIGNED OFF ALONG WITH LAW, CAN
YOU, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE
GENERAL COUNCIL, WE COULD WORK
BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER 8th TO
ADDRESS AND I COULD WORK WITH
COUNCIL PRESIDENT IF THERE IS,
AND COUNCILMEMBER MOORE OF
COURSE IF THERE IS A NEED TO
ADJUST THE BILL AT THAT TIME.
WE CAN HAVE COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. AND BRING ANY
ADJUSTMENTS AS AN AMENDMENT AT
FULL COUNCIL.
WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE?
>> IT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME. WE
WANTED TO AMEND THIS IF
NECESSARY.
>> I DO. WELCOME AMENDMENTS IN
FULL COUNCIL. THAT PARTICULAR
AGENDA WILL BE QUITE FULL. THAT
WAS AN OPTION FOR US. I AM
TAKING MY LEAD FROM THE CHAIR.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> WE CAN ADJUST AT THE FULL
COUNCIL. THE SPD GENERAL
COUNCIL, SO, IF THERE IS ANY
ADDITIONAL, I WILL ADJUST AT
FULL COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON
AMENDMENT 6? HEARING NONE,
SEEING NONE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, CHAIR
KETTLE. FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE
OPPOSED.
>> AMENDMENT 6 IS ADOPTED.
ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS ON
THE BILL AS AMENDED? HEARING
NONE, SEEING NONE, THE ONLY
COMMENT I WILL SAY IS WE WILL
FOLLOW UP ON THE ITEM WE JUST
DISCUSSED TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE
SET. WILL THE CLERK CALL THE
ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION TO PASS COUNCIL
BILL 120845 AS AMENDED?
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PRESIDENT
NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU, THE MOTION
CARRIES AND THE COMMUNITY
RECOMMENDATION THAT COUNCIL
BILL 120844 WILL BE SENT TO THE
OCTOBER 8th CITY COUNCIL
MEETING. I JUST WANTED TO CLOSE
BEFORE GOING TO ADJOURNMENT, IN
AN EARLIER COUNCIL MEETING I
HAD DISCUSSED GETTING THE
UPDATE TO THE 30 BY 30 PROGRAM.
AND TALKED ABOUT SEPTEMBER 24th
AS BEING A POSSIBLE DATE FOR
THAT. IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH
THE MAYOR'S TEAM AND SPD,
THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT EVENTS
RELATED TO 30 BY 30. INSTEAD OF
HAVING A FORMAL AGENDA ITEM
TODAY. I WANTED TO NOTE SINCE I
DID MENTION THAT BEFORE. WE
WILL GET A FULL 30 BY 30 UPDATE
AGENDA ITEM LATER IN THE YEAR.
IF THERE IS ANY OTHER UPDATES
ON THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE
TO DIRECTOR ANDERSON. WE CAN
WAIT UNTIL THAT POINT. MY
UNDERSTANDING NOW IT IS A
LITTLE BIT OF A CART BEFORE THE
HORSE. SO WE WILL DO THAT
UNLESS THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS.
>> I CAN GO OVER SOMETHING
BRIEFLY. BUT I THINK IT WOULD
BE APPRECIATED TO PRESENT IN
FULL. PROBABLY MUCH MORE GIVEN
MUCH MORE FULL PICTURE OF THE
WORK GOING ON. SO I WILL LEAVE
IT TO COUNCIL.
>> WE WILL DO THAT. IT WILL BE
AT THE END OF THE YEAR. THIS IS
A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC. I
APPRECIATE THAT. SO WITH THAT,
WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF THE
AGENDA. IS THERE ANY FURTHER
BUSINESS BEFORE WE ADJOURN?
NONE? HEARING NONE, SEEING
NONE, THERE IS NO FURTHER
BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.