>>> GOOD MORNING THE JUNE 21st,
2024 MEETING OF THE INABILITY,
CITY LIGHT, ARTS AND CULTURE
COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER.
IT IS NOW 9:34 A.M. I'M TANYA
WOO, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] THERE
ARE THREE VOTING MEMBERS
PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS AND MORALES HAVE BEEN
EXCUSED. I WANT TO WELCOME
COUNCIL PRESIDENT WHO IS IN
ATTENDANCE, THANK YOU FOR
JOINING US TODAY. IF THERE ARE
NO OBJECTIONS, THE AGENDA WILL
BE ADOPTED . HEARING NO
OBJECTIONS, THE AGENDA IS
ADOPTED. WE WILL NOW OPEN THE
HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
THEY SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA AND WITHIN THE
PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE.
CLERK, HOW MANY SPEAKERS ARE
SIGNED UP TODAY?
>> WE HAVE TWO REMOTE SPEAKERS.
>> THANK YOU. EACH SPEAKER WILL
HAVE TWO MINUTES. WE WILL START
WITH THE IN PERSON SPEAKERS .
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE
ORDER IN WHICH THEY REGISTERED
AND THERE WILL BE A CHIME
WITHIN 10 SECONDS LEFT IN YOUR
TIME. MICROPHONES WILL BE
MUTED. IF YOU GO OVER YOUR TIME
, AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
IS OPEN. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE
FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST. THE
FIRST REMOTE SPEAKER IS ALBERTO
ALVAREZ. PLEASE PRESS STAR 6 .
SORRY, ONE MOMENT.
WE ARE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL
DIFFICULTIES. YOU WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES AND YOU WILL HEAR A
CHIME WITHIN 10 SECONDS . THANK
YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE WILL
GET STARTED AS SOON AS WE ARE
ABLE TO.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
TODAY'S PRESENTATION STATES
THE FOLLOWING. 65 PERCENT OF
GREATER WORKERS ARE
NONTRADITIONAL WORKERS AND THUS
HAD TO FACULTY ACCESSING
UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE. A
WORKER REMINDED THE CITY
COUNCIL THAT THEY ARE AN A/V
PROFESSIONAL WHO IS ALSO A
LONGTIME WORKER , IN FACT, MANY
CREATIVE WORKERS ARE ALSO
INDEPENDENT CONTRACT ERRORS AND
RIDE-SHARE , GROCERY SHOPPING ,
AND SERVICES LIKE DOOR DASH AND
UBER EATS. THEY DO THIS TO MAKE
ENDS MEET WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE
ACCESS TO UNEMPLOYMENT AND TO
COVER LIVING COSTS IN BETWEEN
PROJECTS. I WANT TO REMIND THE
PRESIDENT -- PRESENT
COUNCILMEMBERS THAT FOR A
HEALTHY AND PRO-SEATTLE ECONOMY
, FAIR WAGES, AND WORKER
PROTECTIONS MUST BE UPHELD AND
AFFIRMED. SUPPORT THE RIGHTS OF
WORKERS ACROSS THE BOARD. A
THRIVING SEATTLE IS A WORKING
SEATTLE. THANK YOU. I YIELD MY
TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT REMOTE
SPEAKER IS SABRINA. PLEASE
PRESS *6 WHEN YOU HEAR THE
PROMPT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ON
MUTED.
>> GOOD MORNING,
COUNCILMEMBERS. GOOD MORNING,
CHAIR WOO . I'M CALLING ON
BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL THAT WILL
ADOPT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
PORT OF SEATTLE AND THE CITY OF
SEATTLE FOR THE SHORE POWER
CONNECTION PROJECT . THIS IS A
LONG TIME COMING AND WE ARE SO
EXCITED TO SUPPORT IT. FOR THE
RECORD I'M SABRINA, SEEPING
HIS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF PORT
OF SEATTLE AND WE ARE SO
EXCITED TO -- OUR WATERFRONT.
WILL BE THE FIRST PORT TO HAVE
FULL ELECTRIC WATERFRONT FOR
OUR VESSELS. IS HUGE FOR
DOWNTOWN RECOVERY AND I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
AND PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME WITH
ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE
PICKED A LOOK FORWARD TO A FULL
COUNCIL ADOPTION THE FIRST WEEK
OF JULY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. SO, AS A
REMINDER, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
ARE ENCOURAGED TO SUBMIT
WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE
SIGN OF CARDS AVAILABLE ON THE
PODIUM OR EMAIL THE CONSUL AT
COUNCIL@SEATTLE.GOV . IT LOOKS
LIKE THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL
SPEAKERS AND WE WILL NOW
PROCEED TO OUR ITEMS OF
BUSINESS. WE WILL MOVE ON TO
THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM
ONE INTO THE RECORD?
>> ARTS ECONOMIC ROUNDTABLE FOR
BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU. I'M EXCITED TO
HAVE COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON
TO JOIN US AND TO ALSO
COSPONSOR THIS ROUNDTABLE. I
WILL LET YOU SPEAK ABOUT HOW
THIS GOT STARTED.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
HAVING ME HERE . I REALLY
APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND
THANK YOU ALL AND THE PANELISTS
WHO WILL BE SITTING AT THE
TABLE SHORTLY, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR COMING, AS WELL. I'M
SORRY NELSON AND EVER SINCE
TAKING OFFICE I HAVE BEEN CHAIR
OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
I WILL EXPLAIN WHAT MIGHT
COMMENTS WILL REVEAL WHY I ASK
TO PARTICIPATE IN SUGGESTED
THIS ROUNDTABLE. THE ARTS AND
CULTURE SECTOR ARE IN ITSELF IS
A POWERFUL DRIVER OF ECONOMIC
ACTIVITY AND JOB CREATION. IN
ADDITION, CONTRIBUTING TO THE
VIBRANCY OF OUR CITY AND
QUALITY-OF-LIFE. FOR SOME
PERSPECTIVE, IT HAS BEEN SAID
THAT THE ARTS DRAW 1 MILLION
MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN THEN
SPORTS GAMES ANNUALLY , AND SO
THAT JUST GIVES YOU A SENSE OF
HOW MANY PEOPLE WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS
-- WHAT THE CORRECT NUMBER IS,
BUT I GIVE IT AS A INDICATION ,
THAT MAGNITUDE OF THE ECONOMIC
IMPACT OF ARTS, CULTURE,
HERITAGE INSTITUTIONS AND NOT
JUST DOWNTOWN BUT ACROSS THE
CITY. REMEMBER, THESE
INSTITUTIONS FEED THE RETAIL
AND THE HOSPITALITY BUSINESSES
IN THE REGION AS WELL, SO,
IT'S IMPORTANT FROM AN
ECONOMIC -- THE ARTS ARE VITAL
AND CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT TO THE
CITY OF SEATTLE FOR OUR REVENUE
THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH TO
RUN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. BECAUSE
PEOPLE THE LIGHT -- DECIDE TO
SPEND THEIR DISCRETIONARY
INCOME TAKING IN THE ARTS --.
SOMETIMES WE THINK ABOUT IT AS
NICE TO HAVE OR ELITIST BECAUSE
MAYBE THAT IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE
THAT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO
APPRECIATE OR ATTEND A SHOW .
BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE
BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO TALKING
ABOUT ALL OF THE WORKERS, NOT
ONLY ON THE STAGE OR SCREEN, WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT
SUPPORT THE INSTITUTIONS FROM
BEHIND THE SCENES. THE PEOPLE
THAT CLAIM FIFTH AVENUE
THEATRE. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
PART OF THIS VITAL COMMUNITY,
SO THAT IS WHY I FEEL VERY
STRONGLY THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT
HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN
SUPPORTING THE ART SECTOR AND
THE VERY FACT IS THAT SEATTLE
IS LAGGING OTHER WEST COAST
CITIES WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE
RETURNING TO THEIR SEATS IN
VENUES . I LEARNED THIS FROM
MANNY WHO WILL BE UP HERE AND
AGAIN, WE PEOPLE
OUTSIDE CITY HALL WHO ARE
REPRESENTING THE NEEDS AND
INTERESTS. THAT IS AN
INDICATION THAT THERE ARE VERY
SPECIFIC POLICIES AND
PRIORITIES WE SHOULD BE
CARRYING FORWARD TO INSURED NOT
JUST OUR OUR SECTOR BUT OUR
CITY AS A WHOLE REBOUNDS FROM
THE PANDEMIC . AND SO, THE IDEA
TO HAVE A ROUNDTABLE CAME FROM
A MEETING THAT I ATTENDED WITH
LEADERS OF ARTS INSTITUTIONS
ACROSS THE CITY, ARTS CULTURE
AND HERITAGE INSTITUTIONS , AND
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF
THE THINGS THAT AILS THE SECTOR
, AND OF COURSE ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT PEOPLE NOTED WAS ,
PEOPLE WILL NOT COME BACK TO
DOWNTOWN SPECIFICALLY IF THEY
DON'T FEEL SAFE COMING BACK
AFTER HOURS, AND THERE HAVE
BEEN A FEW RECENT SURVEYS THAT
DO SHOW THAT TOO MANY PEOPLE
FEEL CONCERNED ABOUT COMING TO
THE DOWNTOWN CORE AFTER DARK.
THAT IS A DIFFERENT POLICY
DISCUSSION, AND I'M NOT GOING
TO PULL THE TITLE AND MAKE THAT
ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. I JUST
WANT TO KNOW THAT I AM
INTERESTED TODAY TO LISTEN .
I'M NOT GOING TO TALK MUCH
MORE. I WANT TO KNOW SOME OF
THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M
INTERESTED IN , WHAT OTHER
CITIES ARE BETTER SUPPORTING
THE ARTS SECTOR? WHAT CAN WE
REPLICATE HERE, IF ANYTHING?
AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND MORE
HOW I CAN TAKE IN WHAT IS SAID
TODAY AND INCORPORATE IT INTO
MY WORK AS CHAIR OF THE
GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU. I'M VERY EXCITED
TO HOST THE ROUNDTABLE IN THIS
COMMITTEE. WE ARE COMMITTING
EVERY THIRD FRIDAY OF THE MONTH
TO THE ARTS AND ECONOMIC
ROUNDTABLE. WE WILL HAVE A
DIFFERENT FOCUS EVERY MONTH
WITH SOME PARTICIPANTS ROTATING
AS WELL AND THERE IS TWO MAIN
GOALS , PROVIDE A PLATFORM THAT
UPLIFTS THIS WORK , NOT JUST BY
OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS BUT OUR
EXTERNAL PARTNERS AS WELL, AND
TO ALSO INFORM , EDUCATE
OURSELVES OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT
ARTS AND CULTURE AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT INTERSECTION . I
ACKNOWLEDGE IT IS ONE BIG
ECOSYSTEM AND BIG COMPONENTS
ARE CONNECTED AND WANTING TO
LIFT THIS CREATIVE ECONOMY AS
MUCH AS WE CAN. I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL
THE ANSWERS AND NOT ALWAYS BE
IN ALIGNMENT. THERE ARE SO MANY
AMAZING IDEAS BUT WE WILL LOVE
TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS AND
INFORM PEOPLE OF WHAT IS
HAPPENING AND BE ABLE TO -- AND
FROM OURSELVES AS WELL WHEN WE
LOOK AT POLICIES AND
LEGISLATION. BEFORE I TURNED
THIS OVER TO OUR PRESENTERS, I
WANT TO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES
TO LISTEN AND SAVE QUESTIONS
AND COMMENTS FOR THE END. MANY
WILL FACILITATE QUESTION AND
ANSWER PERIOD FOR US. I WANT TO
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO ARE
WATCHING AND LISTENING TO
SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS AND FORM
TOPIC SUGGESTIONS TO OUR OFFICE
SO WE CAN INCORPORATE FEEDBACK
FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS. I
WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE
ROUNDTABLE PARTICIPANTS TO
GATHER AT THE TABLE. WHEN YOU
ARE READY, PLEASE INTRODUCE
YOURSELVES.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU
MIGHT HAVE TO HOLD THE
MICROPHONE REALLY CLOSE TO YOUR
FACE . THERE IS A LITTLE GREEN
LIGHT THAT WILL APPEAR THAT
WILL LET YOU KNOW THE
MICROPHONE IS ON.
>> LET'S START OVER THERE WITH
SETH.
>> I'M SETH GEISER, THE
MANAGER FOR THE DOWNTOWN
SEATTLE ASSOCIATION
METROPOLITAN DISTRICT.
>> GOOD MORNING. I'M GULGUN
KAYIM, THE DIRECTOR OF ARTS AND
CULTURE.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MY
NAME IS MANNY CAWALING, THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INSPIRE
WASHINGTON. I'M A LIFELONG
SEATTLEITE, THIRD GENERATION. I
LIVE IN THE CENTRAL AREA AT
30th AND CHERRY. OF COURSE I
HAVE HAD A LONG SERVICE OF
PARTNERSHIP WITH SEATTLE , AS A
FORMER SEATTLE CENTER
COMMISSIONER AS WELL AS A LOT
OF PARTICIPATION AND A VARIETY
OF PROGRAMS THAT SERVE OUR CITY
LIGHTS I AM SO GRATEFUL YOU
HAVE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION
AND TO WORK TOGETHER WITH ALL
OF YOU. INSPIRE WASHINGTON, WE
ARE YOUR CULTURAL ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATION . WE EXIST TO
SERVE EVERY STATE COMMUNITY
FROM SPOKANE TO SEATTLE,
INSPIRE WASHINGTON SERVES
COMMUNITIES BY SUPPORTING ALL
OF OUR CULTURAL PARTNERS . THEY
ARE THE ONES THAT INSPIRE
WASHINGTON COMMUNITIES EVERY
DAY AND EVERY STATE REGION IN
EVERY CITY OF SEATTLE
NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH THEIR
VALUABLE COMMUNITY CENTERED
PROGRAMS. I AM HONORED TO BE
HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR CULTURAL
PARTNERS . THE DIFFERENT FIELDS
WITHIN THE CREATIVE AND
CULTURAL STRUCTURE WITH ALL OF
YOU PICK THEY ARE A COALITION
OF NONPROFIT CULTURAL AND
SCIENCE ORGANIZATIONS AND THE
COMMERCIAL CREATIVE INDUSTRY
STATEWIDE WE ARE NEARLY 18,000
BUSINESSES, THOUSANDS OF
EMPLOYEES AND COUNTLESS
CREATIVE CONTRACTORS WHO DRIVE
SIGNIFICANT , ECONOMIC, AND
SOCIAL IMPACTS . EVERY CITY IN
TOWN , AND HAMLET, AND
WASHINGTON BENEFITS FROM
PROGRAMS IN SCIENCE, HERITAGE
AND THE ARTS. ALL OF US SHARE
COMMON VALUES, PASSIONS AND
BELIEFS. OUR CULTURAL WORK AS
UPLIFTING TO COMMUNITY LIFE. WE
INSPIRE TREMENDOUS SOCIAL AND
TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC IMPACTS. WE
ARE NOT NICE TO HAVE. AMENITIES
COUNT ON US, CITIES COUNT ON
US. WE ARE AN ESSENTIAL PARTNER
FOR BUILDING RESILIENT AND
CONNECTED COMMUNITIES. CULTURE
IS VITAL AND INSPIRATIONAL. IT
IGNITES CURIOSITY , CREATIVITY,
CRITICAL THINKING, AND THAT
CONNECTION OF PEOPLE AND PLACES
AROUND US. ARTS, CULTURE AND
CREATIVE WORK ARE EXCEPTIONAL
HERE IN SEATTLE. WE ARE A
CULTURAL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD .
WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN OUR
BEAUTIFUL CITY MATTERS TO OUR
CITIZENS, THE STATE, OUR
NATION, AND EVEN
INTERNATIONALLY. I DO NOT
EXAGGERATE. THE BIRTH OF OUR
PROGRAMMING, THE HIGH QUALITY
OF WORK IS THE ENVY OF MANY
CITIES ACROSS THE NATION AND
WORLD. WOULD HAVE SOMETHING
SPECIAL. WE ARE A LEADER, AND
YOU ALL ARE STEWARDS OF A
TREMENDOUS CULTURAL LEGACY AND
HAVE THE POWER TO INSPIRE MORE
GROWTH THAT WILL BEAR
TREMENDOUS SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC
IMPACTS AND OF COURSE JUST MAKE
LIFE BEAUTIFUL AND VIBRANT IN
SEATTLE. THAT IS WHY WE ARE
HERE TODAY. WHY WE WILL BE
TALKING MORE ABOUT OUR SECTOR
AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR
COLLABORATION. OF COURSE, AS WE
HAVE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THE
PANDEMIC HAS HAD TREMENDOUS
IMPACTS ON OUR BUSINESSES. BUT
MANY OF OUR PARTNERS ARE STILL
HERE. MANY OF OUR CREATIVE
PEOPLE ARE STILL HERE AND THEY
ARE LOOKING FOR MORE SUPPORT SO
THAT THEY CAN DO MORE , BE
MORE, AND SUPPORT OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR CITIZENS
IN SEATTLE. HONORED TO HAVE
THIS TREMENDOUS PANEL TO BE
TALKING ABOUT THEIR IDEAS AND
INFORMATION THEY BEAR AND THE
UNIQUE ROLE THAT EACH OF THEM
PLAYS IN SUPPORTING CULTURAL
AND CREATIVE ECONOMY. TO WRAP
UP, I WANT TO MAKE A FEW
STATEMENTS TO GROUND TODAY'S
CONVERSATION. THIS IS A
REPRESENTATIVE CONVERSATION.
CERTAINLY, WE ARE A DOZEN
PEOPLE HERE IN THIS ROOM, AS
WELL AS ON THE ZOOM SPACE. WHAT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS
PERSONAL TO SO MANY FOLKS
ACROSS SEATTLE. IT IS PERSONAL
FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
PROVIDING WORK. IS REALLY
PERSONAL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE BENEFITING FROM THIS WORK.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO LEARN . THERE IS SO MUCH
WITHIN THIS WORK THAT WE CAN
LEARN TO INSPIRE US FOR ACTION.
THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO DISCOVER SHARED
AGREEMENTS. WHAT DO WE AGREE
ON? WHAT DO WE NOT AGREE ON?
HOW WILL WE COLLABORATE INTO
DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE? OF TH
FOR US TO INSPIRE A GREATER
RECOVERY OF CULTURAL AND
CREATIVE PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE
MORE PEOPLE WORK , MORE PEOPLE
ARE BENEFITING FROM THE
CULTURAL PROGRAMS , AND ALSO
THAT IT HAS A RIPPLE EFFECT
INTO BUSINESSES AND SECTORS
BEYOND THEATERS AND PERFORMANCE
VENUES AS WELL. OF COURSE, A
LOT OF TALK HAPPENED LAST YEAR
TOWARDS THE END ABOUT THE
TREMENDOUS IMPACT OF DOORS
OPEN, INSPIRE WASHINGTON WAS A
DRIVER FOR THAT. OF COURSE, WE
BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE
TRANSFORMATIVE OPPORTUNITIES IN
BUILDING CULTURAL
INFRASTRUCTURE OUTSIDE OF
SEATTLE , WHERE THERE HAS NOT
BEEN AS MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE.
LET'S THINK ABOUT BLACK
DIAMOND. IT IS ALSO AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE SUPPORT AT
THE COUNTY LEVEL TO OUR
VALUABLE ORGANIZATIONS IN
SEATTLE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT
SEATTLE'S ROLE IN SUPPORTING
CULTURAL PROGRAMS IS NOT
NECESSARY . IN FACT, IT MAKES
IT MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER.
THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE IN
WASHINGTON STATE WHERE IT IS
MORE EXPENSIVE AND CHALLENGING
TO DO CULTURAL, CREATIVE WORK
THAT IN SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.
THAT IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE MOST
INSPIRED PLACES FOR US TO DO
THIS. I WELCOME THIS
COLLABORATION AND CONVERSATION
WITH ALL OF YOU, AND I KNOW
THAT FROM THIS STARTING POINT,
WE ARE GOING TO GO A GREAT
DISTANCE AND DISCOVER A LOT OF
GREAT INKS THAT WE WILL DO
TOGETHER.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S MY CUE,
RIGHT?
>> LET'S START WITH THE
PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
>> I WAS ASKED TO PUT A BRIEF
PRESENTATION TOGETHER TO GET US
STARTED. THE PURPOSE OF THIS
PRESENTATION ISN'T TO BE
APPREHENSIVE BUT TO GIVE US
SOME INFORMATION TO GO ON. WE
DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO
SPEND A TINY AMOUNT OF TIME IN
DEFINITIONS AND IDENTIFY WHERE
IT IS THAT WE ARE WORKING. I
PULLED TOGETHER A WAY FOR US TO
THINK ABOUT THAT. AND THEN MOVE
ON TO A VERY SMALL TOUCH ON
WHAT THE PANDEMIC DID TO THE
CREATIVE ECONOMY, JUST SO THAT
AS WE ARE COMING OUT OF THAT
PHASE, SO WE CAN ALL HAVE THE
CONTEXT IN FRONT OF US AS WE
THINK ABOUT THE CREATIVE
SECTOR. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO,
I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD IN
THE PRESENTATION. ONE THING I
SHOULD SAY IS THAT THE ISSUE OF
DEFINING THAT CRATE OF ECONOMY
HAS COME UP AS WE HAVE PUT
TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION AND
THIS PANEL, AND WE WOULD LOVE
TO HAVE A FURTHER CONVERSATION
WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
BUT, FROM THE HISTORICAL
STANDPOINT, IT'S A SECTOR THAT
HAS BEEN HARD TO DEFINE . HOW
DO YOU DEFINE CREATIVITY? THERE
HAS BEEN A LOT OF RESEARCH DONE
AROUND IT , NATIONALLY AND
INTERNATIONALLY, AND LATELY,
ESPECIALLY, THERE HAS BEEN A
LOT OF DATA THAT HAS BEEN
PULLED TOGETHER IN
COLLABORATION WITH FEDERAL
PARTNERS, SO THE BUREAU OF
ECONOMIC ANALYSIS HAS BEEN
WORKING WITH WEST STAFF, THE
FEDERATION TO PULL TOGETHER A
COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF THE
CREATIVE SECTOR BECAUSE WITHOUT
AN ABILITY TO DEFINE IT THROUGH
DATA IS VERY HARD FOR US TO
TALK ABOUT. SO, THAT IS ONE
THING I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT
THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST
FIVE OR SIX YEARS. MOVING
FORWARD, I WANTED TO START WITH
A REMINDER OF THE CITY
DEPARTMENTS THAT REALLY HAVE
DIRECT TOUCH ON THE CREATIVE
ECONOMY. THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND
CULTURE, THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, AND SEATTLE
CENTER, WE ARE ALL DIRECT LEAD
ENGAGED WITH THE CREATIVE
ECONOMY. OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO
HAVE SOME INVOLVEMENT , BUT I
WOULD -- AS HE WAS IN OUR
DISCUSSION ON DIFFERENT
DEFINITIONS -- WE REALLY ARE
INVOLVED IN THE PRODUCTION AND
SUPPORT OF THE SECTOR. WE WILL
TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. WE
ARE NOT GOING TO GO INTO OUR
PARTICULAR PROGRAM AREAS. WE
ARE GOING TO -- THAT IS GOING
TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME, BUT WE
ARE GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
THESE THREE DEPARTMENTS CREATE
THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE
CITY TOGETHER. NEXT SLIDE,
PLEASE. I PUT THIS SLIDE UP
HERE JUST TO GIVE US SOME
ABILITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE
DO IN TERMS OF ECONOMY. SO,
ECONOMY IS THE SYSTEM OF
EXCHANGES AND THERE IS TWO
ASPECTS . THERE ARE SOME
ASPECTS THAT WE SHOULD BEAR IN
MIND. THIS PARTICULAR GRAPHIC
COMES FROM MY WORK IN THE CITY
OF MINNEAPOLIS, WORKING ON
DEFINING AND MEASURING THE
CREATIVE SECTOR, AND THIS
DEFINITION REALLY AMPLIFIES THE
INTERCONNECTED NATURE OF CRATER
PRODUCTION . WHAT I MEAN BY
PRODUCTION IS, PRODUCING
PRODUCTS , EVENTS , STUFF,
THINGS THAT ARE -- MAYBE A PLAY
WE WANT TO SEE. CELL, IN THE
CENTER OF THIS, WE VISUALIZE IT
LIKE A SOLAR SYSTEM. IN THE
CENTER THERE IS THE SON. YOU
HAVE YOUR SKILLED PRODUCERS WHO
ARE MAKING THE THING WE ARE
CALLING ARTS. SURROUNDING THAT,
THE OUR SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS
OR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT
PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
ORGANIZATIONS THAT REALLY ARE
THERE TO AMPLIFY A PARTICULAR
AUDIENCE . FOR EXAMPLE, IN
ORDER TO AMPLIFY THE POTTERY
AUDIENCE , AND THEY ALSO
PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
AND INVESTMENT FOR THAT
PARTICULAR GENRE OF FIELD FOR
OUTSIDE OF THAT IS ARTS
EDUCATION . WHAT IS ARTS
EDUCATION IMPORTANT? WE ARE
TRAINING THE FUTURE ARTISTS OR
CREATIVE PRODUCERS AND
AUDIENCES , AND HAVING INFORMED
AUDIENCES IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THERE IS A LOT OF CONNECTIONS
ALONG THIS LINE. THERE IS
CREATIVE INDUSTRIES , ARTS
FESTIVALS, CROSS SECTOR ARTS,
PHILANTHROPY AND PUBLIC SECTOR
SUPPORTS, CIVIC GROUPS . ALL OF
THESE WORK TOGETHER LIKE AN
ECOSYSTEM DOES. IS
INTERRELATED. OUTPUTS OF
THE SECTOR OUR SOCIAL AND
ECONOMIC. THERE ARE ECONOMIC
OUTPUTS WHICH WE WILL TALK
ABOUT IN TERMS OF GDP OR
REVENUES OR JOBS , BUT THERE IS
ALSO SOCIAL OUTPUT, AND WE
SHOULD NOT FORGET THE SOCIAL
IMPACTS THAT THE CREATIVE
SECTOR HAS. THAT CAN BE IN
TERMS OF VIBRANCY, BELONGING,
ET CETERA , AND I'M GOING TO
TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. I'M
GOING TO PAUSE HERE BECAUSE MY
COLLEAGUE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT
THE WORK HE DOES IN
RELATIONSHIP TO THIS.
>> THANK YOU. I REALLY LIKE
THIS SLIDE. IT IS A VISUAL
SLIDE AND I LIKE TO SEE THINGS
MAPPED OUT. IT IS ILLUSTRATIVE
OF HOW INTERCONNECTED ALL OF
THESE DIFFERENT PIECES ARE,
WHICH IS BOTH FABULOUS BECAUSE
IT MEANS THAT THERE IS SO MUCH
CROSSOVER AND POTENTIAL IN
THOSE GRAY AREAS. IT MEANS IT
IS COMPLEX BECAUSE IT'S HARD
TO TEASE OUT WHO IS DOING WHAT.
WHEN I SAW THIS AND WE WERE
PREPARING FOR THIS
PRESENTATION, I HAD A LITTLE
BIT OF AN AHA MOMENT THINKING
ABOUT HOW THE ARTS AND CULTURE
IS TAKING CARE OF THAT CENTER
OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM AND OED IS
FOCUSED ON THE PERIPHERY WITH
OF THE CREATIVE INDUSTRY, CROSS
SECTOR ARTS PIECES. I'M REALLY
EXCITED AS WE GO FORWARD IN
THIS ECONOMY, DISCUSSION TO
DRAW SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR OUR
CITY, SOMETHING THAT IS
REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW OUR OWN
SOLAR CREATIVE ECONOMY SOLAR
SYSTEM WORKS. I THINK THAT WILL
BE HELPFUL AND HELP WITH SOME
OF THE DEFINITION, BUT ALSO
CONTINUE TO ILLUSTRATE THE
COMPLEXITY OF THE CROSS
CONNECTION. I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO THAT AS A FUTURE
PIECE WE CAN COLLABORATE ON.
>> THANK YOU. AS MARKHAM
MENTIONED, ART SPENDS MOST OF
ITS TIME IN THE PRODUCTION
SPACE. SO WE ARE SUPPORTING THE
PEOPLE MAKING THE ART IN
VARIOUS WAYS. WE DO SPEND SOME
TIME IN INDUSTRIES AND
SOMETIMES IN FESTIVALS BECAUSE
THEY COME TO US FOR SUPPORT,
BUT WE ARE REALLY THERE TO
ENSURE THE CENTER IS HEALTHY.
MOVING ON. AS I MENTIONED , THE
CREATIVE SECTOR ALSO HAS SOCIAL
RETURNS. WHAT ARE SOME OF
THESE? WELLNESS, COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE,
SOCIAL COHESION, PLACE MAKING
AND BELONGING, AND WE COULD ADD
TO THIS LIST. I WANTED TO
REMIND US THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT THE CREATIVE SECTOR
PRODUCES IN ADDITION TO THE
NUMBERS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
I THINK WE ALL DEBATE ABOUT IN
TERMS OF NONPROFIT CREATIVE
SECTOR ORGANIZATIONS, WHEN WE
THINK ABOUT RETURN ON OUR
INVESTMENTS, WHICH SHOULD BE
ALSO COUNTING SOCIAL RETURNS,
NOT JUST THE NUMBER OF TICKETS
SOLD OR THE REVENUES THEY
PRODUCE, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE
CAME, WHAT THE VIBRANCY RESULT
IS. THOSE THINGS ARE HARDER TO
MEASURE, BUT THEY ARE REALLY
IMPORTANT BECAUSE NONPROFITS
ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABOUT
PRODUCING REVENUE OR PROFIT,
THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT THE
SOCIAL IMPACTS. I WANTED TO
REMIND OURSELVES THAT SINCE WE
DID HAVE A HEALTHY DEBATE ABOUT
THAT, IT'S A BOTH AND. MOVING
ON. I'M GOING TO HAND THIS
OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE TO TALK A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT , BUT WE
ARE ENTERING INTO THE SECTION
THAT REMINDS US , BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC, WHAT WERE THE
CREATIVE ECONOMY RETURNS ON
INVESTMENT? WHAT WERE THE
ECONOMIC RETURNS? THIS
PARTICULAR SLIDE COMES FROM
OED'S CREATIVE ECONOMY REPORT.
I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO
MARKHAM.
>> THANKS. I WILL START BY
PUTTING A LITTLE CAVEAT. AS SHE
MENTIONED, CREATIVE ECONOMY IS
STILL IN DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE
AGREED AT THIS TABLE THAT WHAT
WE NEED IS A DEFINITION THAT
WORKS FOR US, FOR OUR CITY AND
OUR UNIQUE ECOSYSTEM. EVEN
THOUGH THIS DATA ON THE SLIDE
REFLECTS THE OED CREATIVE
ECONOMY REPORTS FROM 2019, WE
ARE IN THE PROCESS OF KICKING
OFF A REFRESH THAT -- NEITHER
SEVEN OR I WERE AROUND WHEN
THAT COMMISSION WAS MADE. I'M
REALLY HAPPY WITH IT TO CREATE
THIS BETWEEN OUR TWO OFFICES
ALONGSIDE SEATTLE CENTER AND
ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDER PARTNERS
TO REALLY INK ABOUT
POST-PANDEMIC, WHAT ARE WE
TALKING ABOUT, WHAT IS WITHIN
THE GREATER ECONOMY AND HOW DO
WE FIND THE STRENGTH AND
OPPORTUNITIES IN THERE TO
REALLY GO TO WORK AS WELL AS
ONE OF THE GAPS WE NEED TO
ADDRESS IMMEDIATELY AND
LONG-TERM? A CAVEAT WERE
LOOKING AT IS A LOOK BACK AND
DOESN'T NECESSARILY REPRESENT
THE ENTIRE CREATIVE ECONOMY
WILL BE TALKING ABOUT AS WE GO
FORWARD. A COUPLE OTHER
CAVEATS, THE DATA DOESN'T
INCLUDE NONPROFIT REVENUES.
WHICH I THINK IS AN OVERSIGHT
BECAUSE EMPLOYERS ARE
EMPLOYERS, AND THEY ARE
IMPORTANT TO OUR ECONOMY. AS
WELL AS THE CALL EARLIER WHO
WAS REFLECTING ON THE GIG
ECONOMY AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT
IS TO THE CREATIVE ECONOMY. AS
WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING
TO MEASURE AND HOW WE LOOK AT
THE CREATIVE ECONOMY LOOKING
FORWARD, THESE NUANCES ARE
IMPORTANT AND WILL DRIVE OUR
DECISIONS ON INVESTMENTS AS
PROGRAMMING AND WHATNOT.
RELATEDLY, THE WORKFORCE
NUMBERS THAT WE CHOSE FOR THIS
2019 REPORT INCLUDE BOTH THE
TRADITIONAL CREATIVE INDUSTRIES
ARTS AND CULTURE SECTOR WORK ,
AND SOME TECH SECTOR JOBS
BECAUSE OF THE CREATIVE ECONOMY
SKILL SET, THE WORKFORCE CUTS
ACROSS MANY DIFFERENT SECTORS.
THERE ARE JOBS IN MANY
DIFFERENT INDUSTRY SECTORS THAT
REQUIRE CREATIVE SKILL SETS. I
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS
WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, WE
UNDERSTAND THERE IS SOME NEW
WANTS THAT IS IMPORTANT TO
GRASP AND WE WILL BE COMING
BACK TO YOU AS WE REFRESH THE
REPORT TO GET YOUR ADVICE AND
COUNCIL TO DRIVE THE DECISION
MAKING. CREATIVE JOBS ARE
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO OUR
ECONOMY FROM A DUTY TO BE --
GDP PERSPECTIVE. IT IS A DRIVER
FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH , BUT I
THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT WE PRIDE
OURSELVES ON BEING INNOVATIVE
AND HAVING INNOVATIVE SPIRIT.
THAT COMES FROM THAT CREATIVITY
AND HARNESSING THAT CREATIVITY
AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO
COMMERCIALIZE IT AND HAVE IT
MAKE MONEY. WE HAVE
DEMONSTRATED IT TIME AGAIN IN
MANY DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES. I'M
EXCITED ABOUT, HOW DO WE FIGURE
OUT WHAT THAT NEXT SET OF
INDUSTRIES IS GOING TO LOOK
LIKE? WHETHER IT IS GREEN
INTELLIGENCE OR ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE HOW DO WE LEAD THE
FOREFRONT IN THINKING AND DOING
OF THE ECONOMIC WORK? I'M
GOING TO TURN IT BACK TO YOU,
GULGUN . YOU PROBABLY HAVE A
BETTER HANDLE.
>> AS I MENTIONED, WEST STAFF
IS A DATA AGGREGATOR AND
PROVIDES NUMBERS ON JOBS AND
REVENUES WITHIN THE CREATIVE
SECTOR . WHEN YOU PURCHASE THIS
DATA, YOU ARE ABLE TO COMPARE
YOURSELF TO OTHER CITIES WHO
ARE USING THE SAME DATA SETS.
SO, THE DATA THEY PULL FROM IS
NATIONAL DATA, SO THE BUREAU OF
LABOUR STATISTICS IS ONE
EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THEIR DATA
SETS, AND WHEN I CREATED THE
REPORT IN MINNEAPOLIS, I TOLD
CBI DATA. I WAS INTERESTED IN
NONPROFIT AND FOR-PROFIT
REVENUES . I WAS INTERESTED IN
THE WORKFORCE, SO THAT INCLUDED
THE GIG ECONOMY, NOT JUST THE
PEOPLE HIRED BY ORGANIZATIONS .
AND SO, THIS IS THE CLOSEST WE
CAN GET, THE CBI DATA, TO A
CONFERENCE OF DATA SET THAT
PROVIDES A BIG UMBRELLA . AND
SO THE CVI INDEX VALUE IS A
COMBINATION OF NUMBERS OF JOBS
AND REVENUE WITHIN YOUR CITY
AND IT COMPARES IT TO OTHER
CIS THE COUNTRY. WHAT
THIS TELLS YOU IS, SEATTLE IS
SEVENTH AMONG LARGE CITIES.
WHEN I SAY LARGE CITIES, THERE
IS A CONSORTIUM OF CITIES . 60
CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES
WITH POPULATIONS OVER HALF 1
MILLION , AND WE TEND TO
COMPARE OURSELVES TO EACH
OTHER. AND SO, I CAN TELL YOU
THAT MINNEAPOLIS IS SIX AND IT
IS A SMALLER SIZED CITY AND WE
CAN TALK ABOUT WHY THAT IS.
BUT, THAT IS WHERE SEATTLE WAS
IN 2019 AND THAT MEANS IT IS
4.5 TIMES LARGER THAN OTHER
CITIES. IT'S A COMBINATION OF
JOBS AND REVENUES IS 4.5 TIMES
LARGER'S . I HOPE THAT
EXPLAINS IT. NEXT SLIDE,
PLEASE. ONE THING WE ALSO WANT
TO NOTE IS, WHEN YOU INVEST IN
THE CREATIVE SECT THERE, AS I
MENTIONED, YOU ARE INVESTING IN
MORE THAN JUST DIRECT REVENUES.
YOU ARE INVESTING IN SOCIAL
IMPACTS AND ANCILLARY SPENDING.
THAT IS THE TYPE OF SPENDING
PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY COME TO AN
EVENT, GO TO A FESTIVAL THEY
WILL BUY A PARKING TICKET,
PARKING THEIR CARS, OR GO TO
RESTAURANTS OR THEY WILL GO TO
A BAR OR SOME OTHER ASPECT OF
THE BUSINESS CORRIDOR THAT THE
EVENT IS IN. AND SO, THIS TYPE
OF ANCILLARY SPENDING DOES HAVE
AN IMPACT . WE KNOW THAT WHEN
THERE IS A MOVIE THEATER OR A
BAR THAT PRODUCES PERFORMANCES,
IT DOES TEND TO DRAW PEOPLE AND
BRING FOOT TRAFFIC, NOT JUST
ANIMATING THE STREET BUT ALSO
SUPPORTS OTHER BUSINESSES.
THERE ARE CERTAIN FESTIVAL DATA
THAT CAN REALLY SUPPORT HOW
CERTAIN FESTIVALS REALLY DRIVE
BUSINESS FOR THE REST OF THE
YEAR . AND SO, THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO MAKE
SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND. JUST A
COUPLE OF NUMBERS HERE, IN 2023
, ARTS AND CULTURE EVENTS
GENERATED 30 MILLION IN
ANCILLARY SPENDING IN THE
DOWNTOWN CORE. AND THEN THERE
IS ALSO CREATIVE SECTOR DIRECT
SPENDING, AND WHAT I MEAN BY
THAT IS, WE INCLUDE THAT IN THE
ANCILLARY SPENDING CATEGORY .
THIS IS NOT BUYING A TICKET.
THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
SPENT BY THE ORGANIZATION TO
MAKE THE CREATIVE PRODUCT . SO,
IT COULD BE CREATING A SET FOR
A PLAY. YOU SPENT ALL THIS
MONEY TO PURCHASE THE
MATERIALS, ET CETERA . THAT
TYPE OF DIRECTOR SPENDING ALSO
HAS IMPACTS. NEXT SLIDE,
PLEASE. MOVING ONTO THE WEB
FORCE, AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A
GIG ECONOMY, SO 65% OF CREATIVE
WORKERS ARE NONTRADITIONAL
WORKERS. THEY ARE PIECING
TOGETHER THEIR WORK FROM LOTS
OF DIFFERENT CONTRACTS. THAT IS
A CHALLENGE AND PROVED ITSELF
DURING THE PANDEMIC BECAUSE
THIS WORKFORCE IN PARTICULAR
HAD DIFFICULTY ACCESSING
FEDERAL SUPPORT IN UNEMPLOYMENT
INSURANCE. ALSO, WHAT HAPPENED
OVER THE PANDEMIC BECAUSE OF
THIS DIFFICULTY, THERE WAS A
CULTURAL BRAIN DRAIN. FOLKS IN
THE CREATIVE SECTOR HAD TO MOVE
INTO OTHER JOBS IN ORDER TO
MAKE A LIVING BECAUSE OF THE
DIRE CONSEQUENCES OF EVERYTHING
SHUTTING DOWN. AND THEN LOOKING
AT THE DATA IN MORE DETAIL, WE
LEARNED THAT CREATIVE WORKERS
OF COLOR WERE PARTICULARLY
IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC. IF
YOU CAN MOVE OVER TO THE NEXT
SLIDE, THIS WILL BE A GOOD
ILLUSTRATION. I'M NOT GOING TO
SPEND TONS OF TIME ON THIS
SLIDE BUT JUST TO NOTE THAT THE
MOST IMPACTED BY CAULK -- BIPOC
COMMITTEES WERE 78 PERCENT
NATIVE PACIFIC ISLANDER. AND
THAT 72% OF BLACK AND MIDDLE
EASTERN ARAB CREATIVE WORKERS
AS WELL AS 70% OF LATINX
WORKERS . THESE WERE THE ONES
THAT REALLY FELT THE IMPACT THE
MOST IN TERMS OF ACCESSING --
IN TERMS OF LOSS OF INCOME.
MOVING ON. OTHER TYPES OF
PANDEMIC IMPACTS DURING THE --
. WE KNOW EVERYTHING SHUT DOWN
AND THERE WERE FEDERAL SUPPORTS
. THE PANDEMIC RELIEF AND
RESOURCES TOOK MANY FORMS .
HOWEVER, ONE THING TO NOTE, AS
WE -- THIS PHRASE WE USE, FIRST
TO CLOSE LESS TO OPEN WAS
REALLY REAL FOR THE CREATIVE
SECTOR. IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST
TO CLOSE BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY,
SOCIAL ENGAGEMENT AND AS IT WAS
CLOSE, IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST
TWO ACTUALLY RECEIVE SUPPORTS.
THROUGH THESE VARIOUS FEDERAL
PROGRAMS LIKE CARES, PAYCHECK
PROTECTION PROGRAM AND
EMERGENCY INJURY AND DISASTER
LOANS , AMERICAN RESCUE ACT, ET
CETERA, WE HAVE DATA TO SHOW
THAT THAT CREATIVE SECTOR
ACTUALLY WAS THE SLOWEST TO
RECEIVE SUPPORT. ONE
ILLUSTRATION ABOUT THAT IS, IN
THE RELIEF SUPPORT FOR THE SHUT
VENUES. VENUES OF ALL SIZES,
MUSIC VENUES, ET CETERA, THEY
RECEIVE SUPPORT IN 2021, BUT
THAT IS BECAUSE THEY DID DIRECT
ADVOCACY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
HE WENT TO THE FEDS AND SAID,
WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY ACCESS
TO OPERATING OUR VENUES. AND
THEN THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION
PROGRAM -- THE PANDEMIC
UNEMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
DID AN ANALYSIS OF WHO RECEIVED
ITS FUNDING AND 37% OF GIG
WORKERS RECEIVED ITS FUNDING.
THAT IS ALL GIG WORKERS, NOT
JUST CREATIVE. IT SHOWS YOU
THAT BEING A GIG WORKER WAS
VERY DIFFICULT DURING THE
PANDEMIC IT MEANT THAT YOU
WEREN'T ABLE TO RECOUP ANY OF
YOUR INCOME OR VERY LITTLE OF
YOUR INCOME THROUGH PANDEMIC
RELATED SUPPORTS. I DON'T WANT
TO SPEND TONS OF TIME HERE
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MOVE ON TO
OUR CONVERSATION. BUT, NEXT
SLIDE PLEASE. WE ARE IN THE
BUREAU OF ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AND
THIS PARTICULAR DATA SET
ACTUALLY IS THE SAME DATA SET
USED BY WEST STAFF. IT DOES NOT
INCLUDE THE DATA THAT WAS DRAWN
INTO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT REPORT, BUT HERE WE
SEE THE SAME INDUSTRIES. WE ARE
LOOKING THE
TWO THINGS I WOULD LIKE YOU TO
SPEND TIME ON IS THE INDUSTRIES
AT THE TOP, THE TOP FIVE
INDUSTRIES BY VALUE ADD. GROSS
DOMESTIC PRODUCT , THESE
PARTICULAR INDUSTRIES ARE THE
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS . WHAT
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THERE
ARE THE WAYS IN WHICH CREATIVE
SECT OR DISTRIBUTES ITS
PRODUCTS. THOSE OF THE TOP FIVE
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS , AND
UNDERNEATH THAT THE CORE ARTS
AND CULTURAL INDUSTRIES ARE THE
ONES THAT ARE PRODUCING THE
PRODUCTS, SO BACK TO THIS IDEA
OF PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE I JUST
MOVED THREE OF THOSE OUT TO
MAKE IT EASIER TO LOOK AT.
PUBLISHING, RETAIL AND
INFORMATION SERVICES ARE THE
TOP THREE IN TERMS OF
DISTRIBUTION. ARCHITECTURAL
SERVICES, ADVERTISING AND
PROMOTERS OF PERFORMING ARTS
ARE THE TOP THREE IN TERMS OF
PRODUCTION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS PARTICULAR GRAPH IS ALSO
VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S
LONGITUDINAL INFORMATION. IT
TELLS US WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE
THE PANDEMIC, WHERE WE WERE AND
THEN WHAT HAPPENED DURING AND
AFTER. NOW, ONE THING I DIDN'T
MENTION IS, THIS IS ABOUT THE
STATE CUT --, NOT THE CITY. WE
HAVE NOT PRODUCED OUR REPORT
YET. THE BA ONLY DOES
STATE-LEVEL REPORTS. BUT IT IS
FAIR TO ASSUME THAT SEATTLE IS
THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF THE
STATE, SO A LOT OF IT APPLIES
TO US. GIVEN THAT, WE CAN SEE
HERE THAT WHERE WE WERE BEFORE
THE PANDEMIC IN 2018, THE DIP
WE HAD , THE DOTTED LINE
COMPARES US TO THE REST OF THE
STATE. AGAINST THE REST OF THE
COUNTRY, WE ARE NOT DOING WELL.
WE ARE RECOVERING SLOWLY. WHILE
WE ARE THIRD IN TERMS OF OUR
GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, WE ARE
48th IN TERMS OF RECOVERY .
THAT IS SOMETHING TO BEAR IN
MIND. AND THAT IS THE SAME WITH
EMPLOYMENT, NOT JUST THE
PRODUCTION, BUT EMPLOYMENT, WE
ARE SLOW TO RECOVER. NEXT SLIDE
PLEASE. THIS IS THE FINAL
SLIDE. AGAIN, BACK TO THE GDP,
EXACTLY WHAT I SAID EARLIER,
SIXTH , AND 36 A MONTH ALL
STATES , THIRD AMONG ALL STATES
FOR DDP AND 48th AMONG ALL
STATES FOR GDP GROWTH. THAT'S
IT. WE DIDN'T WANT TO PROVIDE
ANY CONCLUSIONS BECAUSE WE
WANTED TO USE THIS TO STIMULATE
CONVERSATION, PROVIDE YOU WITH
SOME CONTEXT AND TO HAVE A GOOD
CONVERSATION.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
PROVIDING SUCH A WONDERFUL
PRESENTATION. CLEARLY, WE ARE
REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE SUCH
PASSIONATE, THOUGHTFUL, AND
INFORMED LEADERS IN THIS WORK.
I TURN IT OVER TO YOU, AND THIS
WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. WHAT
ARE YOUR COMMENTS, THOUGHTS,
AND QUESTIONS?
>> COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMEMBER ?
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS VERY
INSIGHTFUL, WONDERFUL PRESENT
TATIAN. DIRECTOR McINTYRE,
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ALSO,
THANK YOU FOR TAKING GREAT
LIBERTY WITH CASUAL FRIDAYS
WITH THAT POLO SHIRT. IN THIS
ESTEEMED CHAMBER . ALL GOOD, I
HAVE A POLO SHIRT UNDERNEATH
THIS AS WELL. NO WORRIES.
WELCOME. TERRIFIC PRESENTATION.
I LOVE ALL OF THIS. AND , ONE
THING THAT I HEARD IS THAT WE
ARE WORKING HARD TO CONSTRUCT
THE DEFINITION OF THE CREATIVE
ECONOMY AND VARIOUS THOUGHTS
AND CONSIDERATIONS INVOLVED IN
THAT . HOW I GENERALLY APPROACH
THESE ISSUES IS, BECAUSE IT CAN
GET EASY TO GET HUNG UP ON
DEFINING ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
HOW I APPROACH THESE ISSUES IS
THINKING, WHAT IS THE
UNDERLYING GOAL THAT WE ARE
WORKING TOWARDS HERE,
COLLECTIVELY? ONE WAY TO THINK
ABOUT THAT IS , WHAT ARE SOME
OF THE UNDERLYING CHALLENGES OR
PROBLEMS WE ARE SEEKING TO
SOLVE ? IN A LIMITED RESOURCE
ENVIRONMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, WORK
IN THE CITY BEST OPTIMIZE ITS
RESOURCES TO DRIVE IMPACT AND
FURTHER ADVANCE OUR CREATIVE
ECONOMY? I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY ANNE
STATE WITH CLARITY PURPOSES AND
GOAL OF THE WORK. THAT WILL
INFORM THE DEFINITION. AND THEN
I WILL SHARE IN THE ABSENCE OF
THAT, GENERALLY HOW I APPROACH
CREATIVE ECONOMY AND WHAT I
THINK THAT IS. I WILL SAY THAT
IS --. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
LAWYER , I THINK OF THE
CREATIVE ECONOMY AS ANYTHING
THAT QUALIFIES FOR ANY FORM OF
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
PROTECTIONS, WHETHER PATENT,
TRADE SECRETS, COPYRIGHTS,
TRADEMARKS, ALL OF WHICH ARE A
FORM PRINCIPALLY OF STATE AND
FEDERAL STATUTES IN
IMPLEMENTING CASE LAW. IN SOME
CASES, INTERNATIONAL REGIMES
LIKE PATENTS AND THINGS LIKE
THAT. THIS RIGHT HERE, I HAVE
MY ANTI-ASH FORMULA. THIS IS
VASELINE INTENSIVE CARE , COCOA
BUTTER , COCOA RADIANT IS A
BRAND . IT IS A TRADEMARK. THIS
IS -- SOMEONE DESIGNED THIS AND
WHETHER OR NOT YOU SEEK FORMAL
PROTECTION, THAT INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY PROTECTION EXISTS.
THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE AND NO
DOUBT, THERE ARE MANY OTHERS. I
THINK THE BROADEST FORM -- AND
THERE IS OVERLAPPING FORMS OF
PROTECTION, INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY PROTECTION, PATENTS .
SOMETHING CAN BOTH QUALIFY FOR
PATENTS AND COPYRIGHTS, BUT I
THINK, BROADLY, THINGS THAT
MIGHT BE SUBJECT TO COPYRIGHTS
ARE THE MOST GERMANE BECAUSE IT
INCLUDES A LOT OF THINGS .
ORIGINAL WORKS OF AUTHORSHIP
AND THAT IS A LOT OF STUFF.
RATHER THAN GET SUPER ACADEMIC
AND LEGALESE ON YOU , I SURE
THAT AS CONTEXT BEATING --
BECAUSE I THINK IT IS HOW WE
GENERALLY APPROACH THIS WORK OR
ONE POTENTIAL PATH AND VIEW ON
THAT, BUT THE BROADER
OPPORTUNITY I THINK WE HAVE IS
TO REALLY HONE IN AND LOCK DOWN
A CONSENSUS SET OF GOALS AND
PURPOSES THAT ARE GOING TO
INFORM THIS WORK , BECAUSE THE
CREATIVE ECONOMY IN OUR CITY IS
THRIVING , BROADLY, BUT AS WE
KNOW, INCLUDING THROUGH THE
IMPACTS OF THE PANDEMIC, THE
BENEFITS OF THAT ARE NOT SHARED
EQUALLY ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF
CREATORS . THEY ARE DOING VERY
WELL AT MICROSOFT AND AMAZON
AND ADOBE, WHICH MAKES CREATIVE
TOOLS AND SOLUTIONS FOR
CRATERS, DIGITAL CREATORS , BUT
SOME OF THESE MOST VULNERABLE
CRATERS THAT ARE SELLING ART ,
LIKE PAINTINGS AND PERFORMING
SHOWS AND ANY NUMBER OF OTHER
THINGS, THEY ARE THE ONES MOST
IN THE ABSENCE OF CITY
INVOLVEMENT INVESTMENT, THEY
ARE THE ONES MOST IN NEED. I
JUST WANTED TO REFLECT , SELF
REFLECT, AND SHARE HOW I
GENERALLY APPROACH THIS WORK,
BUT ALSO ASK YOU ALL , WHERE DO
YOU THINK THE CITY CAN BEST
OPTIMIZE ITS INVESTMENTS IN
THIS SPACE , GIVEN THE LIMITED
RESOURCE ENVIRONMENT TO SERVE
THE GREATEST GOOD, FOR THE
GREATEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE? THE
TWO CITY FOLKS, I WILL ASK.
>> THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.
FOCUS IS ALSO IMPORTANT. EVEN
AS WE ARE REFRESHING THIS
REPORT, THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE
ARE WAITING IN THE WINGS. WE
HAVE AN ENTIRE CREATIVE ECONOMY
TEAM OVER AT OED. WE ARE
WORKING WITH SOME TREMENDOUS
PARTNERS AND I WOULD SAY IN AN
AREA OF ALIGNMENT WHERE WE HAVE
IDENTIFIED AS SIGNIFICANT
CHALLENGES IS DOWNTOWN PICK
DOWNTOWN IS THE ECONOMIC ENGINE
FOR OUR CITY, REGION ANNE
STATE. RE-ESTABLISHING DOWNTOWN
SEATTLE AS THE CENTER FOR ARTS,
CULTURE, SUPPORT CENTER
ENTERTAINMENT IS ONE OF THE
GOALS. CLEARLY, SOME OF THE
INSTITUTIONS DOWNTOWN ARE
HURTING AS WELL AS WE HAVE
TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY WITH ALL
SORTS OF VACANT SPACE. SO, I
WOULD INVITE SETH TO JUMP IN AS
WELL, TO HEAR FROM ONE OF OUR
PARTNERS THAT IS WORKING ON
THIS AND HAS PUT TOGETHER A
GREAT TABLE TO COME UP WITH
SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. SETH, IF
YOU WOULDN'T MIND TALKING FROM
YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
>> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED BECAUSE
HOPEFULLY THE DOCUMENT HAS MADE
IT TO YOU BUT SINCE LAST FALL,
DSA HAS BEEN DOING THE ARTS AND
CULTURE COALITION. IS A GROUP
OF PEOPLE THAT RANGE FROM FOLKS
WHO COME DOWNTOWN TO WORK IN
ARTS VENUES AND GALLERIES.
PEOPLE WHO OWN AND OPERATE
THOSE SPACES COME UP THROUGH
CASINOS AND EXECUTIVES OF MAJOR
NONPROFITS AND INSTITUTIONS.
PART OF IT WAS TO TALK. I THINK
FOLKS REALIZED THAT A BYPRODUCT
OF THE PANDEMIC IS THINGS GOT
SILOED AND ISOLATED BUT LED TO
INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES. THERE
IS THIS REMEMBRANCE THAT THESE
ARE INTRICATE AND CONNECTED
SYSTEMS AND THAT IT WOULD BE A
GOOD SERVICE TO EACH OTHER TO
TALK AND SHARE , WHAT IS YOUR
EXPERIENCE AND HOW CAN WE GET
THROUGH THIS TOGETHER? HOW CAN
WE MOVE TO A FUTURE THAT IS
MORE RESILIENT FOR THE NEXT
SHOCK THAT MAY BECOMING. WE NOW
HAVE PRIORITY AGENDA . I CAN GO
THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS . THERE
IS SO MUCH MORE. WE HAVE WORK
GROUPS THAT ARE SPIRALING OFF
TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS PICNIC
HE WANTS FOR THE CITY IS TO
DOUG ABOUT STREAMLINING,
PERMITTING AND CODE SUPPORT FOR
FOLKS WHO WANT TO CREATE NEW
SPACES, OR SHORE UP THE ONES
THEY ALREADY HAVE IMPROVE
ACCESS TO RESOURCES AND
CONNECTIONS FOR ARTISTS. A BIG
PART IS THERE ARE A LOT OF
THINGS HAPPENING BUT IF YOU
DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU CAN CHEW
UP TO IT. THERE IS A JOKE
WITHIN RATE OF FOLKS THAT THEY
ARE ALL VERY SUPPORTIVE BUT IT
FEELS LIKE PASSING THE SAME $10
ENTRY FREE IN A CIRCLE. HOW DO
WE MAKE SURE THE BROADER
COMMUNITY IN SEATTLE KNOWS
ABOUT THESE AND HELPS INVEST
THROUGH THEIR PHYSICAL PRESENCE
AT PERFORMANCES AND SHOWS?
RELATING TO THE VISIBILITY OF
THE ARTS AND CULTURE. MAKING
SURE THAT THE CITY RECOGNIZES
THAT THERE IS A DEDICATED
SUPPORT SYSTEM BOTH FINANCIALLY
AND IN POLICY. THERE IS A
CONCERN THAT SOMETIMES WHEN
THERE IS A LARGE MOVEMENT
TOWARDS CIVIC FUNDING , THE
PHILROPIC OR THE PRIVATE
SECTOR SAYS, OH, WE GOOD.
AND THEN THEY PULL OUT ALL OF
THE RESOURCES. HOW DO WE
MEASURE THE ENTIRE CREATIVE
ECOSYSTEM IS BEING TAKEN CARE
OF? WE ARE NOT LOSING PEOPLE AS
WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
>> I'M GOING TO ADD, I AGREED
100% WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE .
THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS
THE PLACES THAT I SEE THE CITY,
THAT NEEDS -- THE CREATIVE
SECTOR IS UNDERCAPITALIZED.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, THERE
ISN'T ENOUGH REVENUE. THERE
ISN'T ENOUGH SET ASIDE . THERE
ISN'T ENOUGH CUSHION TO DEAL
WITH ABSORBING SHOCKS. AND SOME
ASPECT TO THAT IS RELATED TO
THE FACT THAT MANY OF OUR LARGE
NONPROFITS ARE IN CITY OWNED
FACILITIES. THEY ARE UNABLE TO
GET A LINE OF CREDIT ON THEIR
BUILDING WHEN THEY NEED EXTRA
CASH. CASH FLOW IS A REAL
PROBLEM. CAPITALIZATION AND
QUESTIONS AROUND HOW TO HELP
ASSIST THESE LARGER
INSTITUTIONS WHO ARE EMPLOYERS
IN STABILIZING . AND THEN ON
THE JOB SIDE , ONE THING I DID
WANT TO MENTION, AND I THINK I
WAS NOT AS DIRECT ABOUT IT, IS
THAT THIS INTERCONNECTED NATURE
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE
CREATIVE SECTOR, YOUR MUSICIAN
WORKING IN A SMALL CLUB MAY
ACTUALLY BE A GRAPHIC DESIGNER
DURING THE DAY , WORKING FOR A
BIG BUSINESS. A PERFECT EXAMPLE
IS -- WAS DESIGNED BY A VERY
FAMOUS ARCHITECT, FRANK GEHRY
WHO WAS ALSO A SCULPTOR. HE
EXHIBITED HIS SCULPTURES.
PEOPLE ARE INTERCONNECTED AND
WORKING ACROSS THE SECTORS.
INVESTING AND ONE WILL ACTUALLY
SPUR OTHER TYPES OF PRODUCTS
AND ANOTHER. ANYWAY, GOING ONTO
WORKFORCE, CLEARLY THE
INFORMATION , WHEN WE
DISAGGREGATE THE DATA BY RACE
TELLS US THAT SOME COMMITTEES
ARE STRUGGLING MORE THAN OTHERS
AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT
WHY. LOOK INTO, WHAT IS THE
PRECARIOUS NATURE OF WORK FOR
THE GIG ECONOMY AND ENSURING
THAT WE ARE PROVIDING SUPPORT
WHERE IT IS NEEDED, TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE WHERE NEEDED ,
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY
THEY ARE ALSO BUSINESSES.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ALL. I
APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL
COMMENTS HERE AND THE GREAT
PARTNERSHIP AND COLLABORATION
IS REFLECTED IN YOUR RESPONSES,
BUT ALSO SOME OF THE WORK THAT
LED YOU TO THIS TABLE TOGETHER.
MADAM CHAIR?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. GOING
BACK TO , MANNY, YOUR OPENING
COMMENTS, YOU MADE THE POINT OF
EMPHASIZING THAT -- OPEN DOOR?
THE DOOR IS OPEN. I ALWAYS GET
THAT WRONG. THE DOOR IS OPEN
BENEFITS ARTS INSTITUTIONS,
ARTS, HERITAGE, OUTSIDE OF
SEATTLE. IS THAT A POLICY
CHOICE? WAS THAT IN THE
LEGISLATION?
>> DOORS OPEN SUPPORTS EVERY
COMMUNITY IN KING COUNTY. THAT
INCLUDES SEATTLE. 25% OF THE
INVESTMENT OF DOORS OPEN IS
REALLY AS A FLOOR AND NOT A
CEILING. IT IS AN EXTRA LAYER
OF FUNDING FOR COMMITTEES
OUTSIDE OF SEATTLE.
>> SO THAT IS IN THE
LEGISLATION?
>> WE WERE JUST RECOGNIZING
THAT TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
CULTURAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN
SEATTLE, THE NEED OF COURSE TO
DEVELOP MORE THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTY , AND ALSO LIKE I SAID,
WE CAME TO THAT AGREEMENT
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY
POURS A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN
AND THAT IS HOW WE ARE ABLE TO
MAKE THAT AGREEMENT ,
RECOGNIZING THAT THROUGH ALL OF
THOSE INVESTMENTS, ALL OF OUR
CULTURAL AND ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES WILL BE SERVED AND
THEREFORE ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES
WILL ALSO BE SUPPORTED AS WELL.
>> GOT ITS. THANK YOU. SO I
HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
DATA PRESENTED. I'M GLAD THAT
WE MENTIONED THAT THERE IS
CROSS-POLLINATION AND --. THAT
EXPRESSION , HE IS A BASS
PLAYER BUT HIS DAY JOB IS XYZ,
RIGHT? PEOPLE MOVE IN AND OUT
OF THE CREATIVE AND CORPORATE
CULTURE OVER THE COURSE OF
THEIR DAY. SO, YOU ARE
DESIGNING A WEBSITE AT WORK AND
THEN YOU ARE PAINTING AT NIGHT,
WHATEVER. SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE
WHEN WE TRY TO DEFINE THINGS
TOO MUCH , LET'S NOT MISS THE
UNDEFINED. ANYWAY, ON PAGE
FIVE, THERE WAS A FIGURE THAT
SAID, WE ARE SEVENTH IN THAT
INDEX, RIGHT? BUT THAT WAS
SEVENTH IN TERMS OF --. WRITES.
THAT WAS IN 2019 SO WHAT ARE WE
NOW?
>> THE DATA ACTUALLY -- IT WAS
THE 2019 REPORT, SO THAT WAS
WHEN THE REPORT WAS REPRODUCED.
THE DATA ITSELF IS ALWAYS
LAGGING, SO IT IS 2017 DATA
BECAUSE IT TAKES A WHILE FOR
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO
COLLECT ALL OF THE BUREAU AND
LABOR STATISTICS TO COLLECT THE
DATA. WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TWO
YEARS BEHIND. THAT COMES FROM
2017 NUMBERS .
>> THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH USED
TO ME BECAUSE I'M WORRIED
ABOUT THE PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW,
SO --. NO DISS ON YOU, BUT
COULD YOU GO TO PAGE 12 WITH
THE LINES? YEAH, THIS IS
STRIKING. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT
IS GOING ON HERE. I RECOGNIZE
THAT THE BLUE LINE IS
WASHINGTON, NOT SEATTLE, BUT
SEATTLE IS WELL REPRESENTED IN
THAT BLUE LINE. WHAT HAPPENED
HERE? I NOTICED THAT OUR
DECLINE FROM 19 TO 21 WAS NOT
AS SHARP AS THE DOTTED LINE. I
HAVE THEORIES ABOUT WHY THAT
IS, BUT THE MORE STRIKING PART
IS THAT THE DOTTED LINE GOES UP
RIGHT AFTER 2020 AND OURS
CONTINUES TO FALL. AND SO, THIS
IS RELATED TO MY COMMENT ABOUT
THE SEVENTH IN THE NATION. THAT
IS FROM 2017. THIS IS WHAT IS
IMPORTANT TO ME. WE ARE NOT
BOUNCING BACK. I WANT TO KNOW
WHY. ONE OF MY THEORIES IS, WE
ARE VERY TECHNOLOGICALLY
ADVANCED AND I HEARD THAT MANY
PERFORMANCE VENUES ENABLED
THERE SUBSCRIBERS TO CONTINUE
PARTICIPATING IN THE ARTS
ONLINE . MUSIC AND THINGS LIKE
THAT ARE PUBLISHED ONLINE.
COULD THAT BE A REASON WHY
NUMBER ONE OUR DECLINE WAS NOT
SO SHARP AND DEVASTATING BUT
ALSO WHAT IT IS NOT GOING BACK
UP? OR IS IT BECAUSE WE ARE ONE
OF THE LAST STATES TO END THE
CIVIL EMERGENCY?
>> I DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO
ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THAT IS A
GREAT QUESTION AND I WOULD BE
REALLY CURIOUS WHAT MY
COLLEAGUES THINK. I CAN TELL
YOU FROM SURVEY DATA THAT WE
HAVE DONE, JUST OF NONPROFITS.
I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THOSE 241
NONPROFITS WE SURVEYED. WHEN WE
ASKED ABOUT THE CAPITALIZATION
QUESTION, THE FISCAL CLIFF THAT
IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM WHEN
PANDEMIC SUPPORTS LEAVE, WHAT
WOULD BE THE IMPACT? WE WERE
TOLD , LESS PROGRAMMING, LESS
PRODUCTS, BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT
BE ABLE TO PRODUCE. WHAT WE ARE
LOOKING AT HERE IS PRODUCT
PRODUCTION AND EMPLOYMENT . SO,
WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE TWO
THINGS. AND SO, WE ARE SEEING
THAT ARCTIC PRODUCTION IS DOWN
AND IT ISN'T RECOVERING IN THE
SAME WAY. WE ARE LOOKING AT
EMPLOYMENT HAS BEEN DOWN AND IS
NOT RECOVERING IN THE SAME WAY.
THOSE TWO ARE CONNECTED. THESE
ARE EMPLOYERS HIRING PEOPLE TO
MAKE THINGS. THEY ARE MAKING
FEWER THINGS, ESPECIALLY IF
THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT CASH
FLOW. IF THEY ARE
UNDERCAPITALIZED AND UNABLE TO
HAVE THE CUSHION THEY NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK HAPPENS
. SO, THAT IS A VERY INFORMAL ,
NONSCIENTIFIC . WAITED SURVEY
241 ORGANIZATIONS. THAT'S WHAT
WE FOUND OUT, BUT I WOULD BE
CURIOUS TO DIG INTO THE
QUESTION FURTHER AND , MARKHAM
AND SETH , WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I READ THAT WASHINGTON, AS
WE HAVE DISCUSSED BY PROXY
SEATTLE, HAS THE ABILITY TO
EXCEL IN PRODUCTION. WE
DEMONSTRATED THAT PREVIOUSLY.
WE HIT A VERY ROUGH PATCH AND
WE ARE NOT RECOVERING WELL BUT
I AM SEEING OPPORTUNITY THERE.
IF WE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND
ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS
WE ARE ASKING ABOUT , HOW DO WE
RECOVER FASTER? HOW DO WE PUT
OURSELVES BACK AT THE FOREFRONT
OF LEADING THIS ACROSS THE
UNITED STATES? THERE IS
TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY
TO BE HAD. CLEARLY, WE HAVE
SOME DECISIONS TO MAKE IN THE
NEAR TERM TO PUT US BACK ON A
BIT OF TRAJECTORY. THIS IS
ALARMING BECAUSE THIS IS US
COMPETITIVELY AGAINST THE REST
OF THE STATES. THAT CULTURAL --
ISRAEL. THAT IS ONE OF THE
LONGEST TERM THREATS WE HAVE IN
OUR CREATIVE ECONOMY. WE HAVE
GOT TO SOLVE FOR THAT VERY
QUICKLY AS A GROUP AND TEAM AS
A CONCERTED ONE SEATTLE MANOR,
OTHERWISE WE ARE GOING TO BE AT
RISK OF CONTINUING THIS
TRAJECTORY, WHICH IS
PROBLEMATIC FOR LONG-TERM
ECONOMIC OUTLOOK.
>> I WILL NOTE, THE FACT THAT
EVERYBODY ELSE IS PRODUCING AND
WE ARE STILL IN DECLINE, THE
TOP GRAPH IS STUNNING. THE LINE
IS GOING IN THE OPPOSITE
DIRECTION. I'M GOING TO BE
FOCUSED ON THAT GOING FORWARD.
WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
COMPARING OURSELVES TO OTHER
STATES AND CITIES , EVERYBODY
IS CELEBRATED WHEN WASHINGTON
STATE INCREASED ITS INCENTIVES
AND SUPPORT OF FILM THE FILM
INDUSTRY IN GENERAL . THERE
WERE $3 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR
SUPPORT IN THE FORM OF GRANTS
FOR FILM IN WASHINGTON AND THEN
NOW IT IS 15. THAT IS A
TREMENDOUS INCREASE, BUT WHEN
YOU COMPARE US TO OTHER STATES
, AND THIS IS PARTLY WHY I WAS
SO FOCUSED ON ESTABLISHING A
FILM COMMISSION, BECAUSE
SEATTLE HAS LOST ITS RIGHTFUL
PLACE AT THE TOP OF THE HEAP AS
THE BEST FILMMAKING CITY IN THE
COUNTRY, AND IT IS BECAUSE OF
COMPETITION. THERE ARE OTHER
STATES THAT PROVIDE INCENTIVES
FOR REDUCING -- PRODUCING. WHEN
YOU SEE THAT PEACH AT THE END
OF THE MOVIE, GEORGIA, I THINK
THEY'RE PART OF MONEY IS LIKE
50 MILLION . AND, INDIVIDUAL
CITIES. WE LOSE TO VANCOUVER
ALL THE TIME. SO, IF THAT IS IN
PART WHY THAT BLUE LINE IS
GOING DOWN AND THE DOTTED ONE
IS GOING UP, NOTE TO THE
LEGISLATURE. ANYWAY, THANKS. GO
AHEAD AND COMMENT ON THAT.
>> TO PERSONALIZE IT FOR ALL OF
YOU, LET'S TALK ABOUT
PRODUCTION IN REAL TERMS. MANY
OF YOU REPRESENT VERY SPECIFIC
COMMUNITIES. LOOK AT THE
ORGANIZATIONS IN YOUR
COMMUNITIES, THEATER COMPANIES,
THEY ARE PRODUCING LESS SHOWS
WITH LESS ACTORS ON STAGE. IT
IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO BE ABLE TO
PRODUCE PRODUCT AND
ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING THE
BEST THAT THEY CAN AS THE COST
GETS STEEPER AND OF COURSE I
THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE
ORGANIZATIONS CITYWIDE , YOU
SEE EXAMPLES OF PRODUCTION, NOT
JUST THIS AMBIGUOUS TERM, WE
CAN SEE IT EVERYWHERE IN THE
CULTURAL SECTOR. THEY ARE STILL
PRODUCING, BUT THEY HAVE MORE
DRAGS ON THE WORK.
>> SOME SOLUTIONS THAT
ORGANIZATIONS ARE LOOKING FOR,
WE HEARD ABOUT A RECENT MERGER
WITH THE ACT AS WELL AS SEATTLE
SHAKESPEARE COMPANIES. THEY ARE
LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE MODELS
TO GET CONTROL OF COSTS. SO,
THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF
MANY THAT IS HAPPENING, AND THE
NONPROFIT SPHERE. I'M CURIOUS
ABOUT WHAT MUSIC VENUES ARE
DOING. I'M THEORIES ABOUT FILM
VENUES. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT
INDIVIDUAL WORKERS, ESPECIALLY
AS WE SEE A LOT OF MIGRATION OF
WORKFORCE TO THE METRO, AND AS
OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE, LIKE
OUR NEIGHBORS ARE BECOMING OUR
COMPETITORS. AS BELLE VIEW
INVESTS IN ITS CREATIVE SECTOR
AND PRODUCES WORK, FOLKS IN THE
CREATIVE SECTOR THAT LIVE THERE
WILL STAY THERE. WE WILL BE
GRADING -- CREATING ART
PETITION AGAINST DOWNTOWN. WE
WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW
IMPORTANT DOWNTOWN IS. THIS
INVESTMENT BY DOORS OPEN HAS A
THREATS FOR US IN CREATING OUR
COMPETITION. PUSHING AGAINST
OUR EFFORTS TO BRING PEOPLE
DOWNTOWN. ONE
LAST QUESTION, AND BY THE WAY,
SAID, WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE
COALITION I REALIZED, THAT IS
THE MEETING I WENT TO. THAT WAS
CONVENED BY DSA, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR EVERYTHING DSA DOES
FOR DOWNTOWN AND THE WHOLE
CITY. ARE WE UNIQUE AMONGST
CITIES TO HAVE AN ADMISSIONS
TAX? I THINK IT IS LIKE 10%. I
DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OUR
ADMISSION TAX IS.
>> OUR DEDICATED REVENUE STREAM
IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR CITIES . THE
WAY IN WHICH SEATTLE HAS
DECIDED ON ITS DEDICATED
REVENUE STREAM I THINK IS
UNIQUE . IN MY LAST POSITION I
DID RESEARCH AMONG OTHER CITIES
BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT A
DEDICATED REVENUE STREAM. THIS
WAS DEFINITELY UNIQUE. IT HAS
ITS PLUSES AND MINUSES. SOME
CITIES USE TIF FUNDING MSO TAX
INCREMENT FINANCING
>> WHAT DOES OURS PAY FOR? CAN
YOU PLEASE LET FOLKS KNOW WHAT
OUR ADMISSIONS TAX FUNDS AND
HOW MUCH IT IS?
>> THE ADMISSION TAX GOES TO A
NUMBER OF -- ACROSS ALL OF OUR
PROGRAM AREAS. IT GOES TO
SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS,
ORGANIZATIONS. WE ALSO SUPPORT
WORK AT THE SEATTLE CENTER. WE
ALSO CONTRACT WITH THE STATE
TOURISM BUREAU THAT FOCUSES ON
PROMOTING ARTS. IN THAT ARENA
OF PROMOTION AS WELL, WE
SUPPORT FESTIVALS. WE REALLY
GROW -- GO ACROSS THE BOARD
WITH ADMISSIONS TAX AND
ENSURING IT GETS TO ALL PARTS
OF THE SECTOR. IT IS SPREAD
THIN TO BE SURE , BUT THE FOCUS
IS ON THE PRODUCTION AND THE
DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS FOR ARTS
AND CULTURE. WE ALSO HAVE AN
AMOUNT OF WORK AND EDUCATION.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT SOLAR
SYSTEM, THOSE THREE ARENAS ARE
WHERE WE SPEND OUR ADMISSIONS
TAX FUNDING. BUT IT IS UNIQUE
AMONG CITIES, TO BE CLEAR. SOME
CITIES HAVE REALLY BEEN
CREATIVE ABOUT THEIR DEDICATED
REVENUE STREAMS. SOME HAVE USED
TAXES ON SMOKING, FOR EXAMPLE.
THERE IS A RANGE OF WAYS IN
WHICH CITIES HAVE SOUGHT TO
HAVE DEDICATED REVENUE STREAMS
, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT IS VERY
HARD FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO
RUN ON AN ARTS PLATFORM , SO
THEREFORE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR
DEDICATED REVENUE STREAM SO
THAT THERE ARE SOME CULTURAL
INVESTMENTS DON'T HAVE TO GO
THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. HE
SPOKE ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES
-- AND THANK YOU, SETH FOR ALL
THE SUGGESTIONS. IS OR ANYTHING
YOU CAN THINK OF THAT COUNCIL
CAN DO IN TERMS OF ANY
OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU MAY SEE?
OR ANY OPPORTUNITIES YOU WOULD
LIKE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT?
>> WE LIKE LOW HANGING FRUIT.
EASY TO GET HIGH IMPACT.
>> I MEAN, I THINK THE MOST
IMMEDIATE IS THE RECOGNITION
--. THE LAST TIME WE DID A
SURVEY IN DOWNTOWN, THERE WERE
533 GROUND-LEVEL VACANCIES. AS
BUILDING OWNERS COME TO US AND
SAY, WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE
WANT TO THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT
LEASING STRUCTURES, THERE IS
NOT A SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE LIKE LINED UP AT THE DOOR
TO GET IN THERE, THEY JUST NEED
ASSISTANCE. THAT IS EITHER
THROUGH A PROGRAM LIKE SEATTLE
RESTORED, WHICH I'M NOT A
MASSIVE FAN ENOUGH TO HELP
MEDIATE THAT BUT IT IS
SOMETIMES JUST SIMPLE
MATCHMAKING TO INTRODUCE THOSE
PEOPLE TOGETHER. WE ARE NOW
TRYING TO BUILD UP WITHIN THE
DSA, A ROSTER OF WHO ARE THESE
BUILDING OWNERS WHO WANT TO OPT
INTO THESE MORE CREATIVE IDEAS,
BUT ALSO, WHO IS OUT THERE WHO
IS READY TO GO SO THAT WAY WHEN
THE BUILDING OWNER WANTS TO
GIVE YOU THE KEYS, WE CAN HIT
THE GROUND RUNNING. WHATEVER
COUNCIL CAN DO TO SORT OF
PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION
SHARING , BUT ALSO RESOURCES GO
A LONG WAY.
>> I AGREE WITH SETH THAT SPACE
IS A REALLY BIG PRIORITY FOR
DOWNTOWN GENERALLY BUT ALSO FOR
CREATIVE ECONOMIES. FOR YOU
GUYS, THINKING ABOUT WHAT TYPES
OF USES ARE ALLOWED AND IN
WHICH TYPES OF SPACES, HOW DO
YOU PERMIT THOSE USES AND WHAT
IS THE SPEED AT WHICH THOSE
PERMITS MOVE THROUGH ? AS SETH
MENTIONED, RESOURCES, BECAUSE
SEATTLE IS A VERY EXPENSIVE
CITY, SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO
CREATIVELY OFFSET COST OR
RETHINK DIFFERENT TYPES OF
MODELS FOR LEASING OR OWNERSHIP
I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
>> IN MY ARENA, I WOULD SAY
HELPING SOLVE THE RECOVERY
ISSUE IS GOING TO BE THE
BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I WOULD
HAVE. COLLABORATING WITH THE
EXECUTIVE ON THAT. WHAT I MEAN
BY THAT IS, WE ARE THINKING
ABOUT DOWNTOWN RECOVERY BUT WE
ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT ARTS AND
CULTURE RECOVERY, AND WE ARE
DEALING WITH THE FISCAL CLIFF
AT THE END OF THE YEAR IN TERMS
OF FEDERAL FUNDING GOING AWAY
FROM ANY NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATIONS, AND AS I
MENTIONED, THEY PRODUCE
PRODUCTS . HOW CAN WE ENSURE
THAT THEY DON'T FALL OFF THE
CLIFF? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK
LIKE? THERE ARE SOME SOLUTIONS
THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE
EXECUTIVE ON, BRINGING FORWARD
ON HOW THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE.
BUT THAT IS A CONCERN.
>> I WOULD ALSO ADD, LOW
HANGING FRUIT WOULD ALSO JUST
SPUR MORE PARTNERSHIP AND MORE
CONVERSATION WITH PHILANTHROPY
, BUSINESSES, CORPORATIONS, AND
ALSO JUST BEING AN ACTIVE
PARTNER IN EVERY WAY THAT
ANYONE IS ADVOCATING FOR MORE
SUPPORT THAT WILL FIND ITS WAY
TO SEATTLE. THAT COULD BE
INSPIRE WASHINGTON OR ANYONE
THAT IS GOING AFTER SUPPORT IN
THE NEXT SESSION OR WITH OTHER
FORMS OF GOVERNMENT.
>> I THINK RETURN TO WORK IN,
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT RETURN
TO WORK FOR SEATTLE AND COUNTY
EMPLOYEES AS WELL. SO, WE
DON'T TELL THE PRIVATE SECTOR
WHAT TO DO BUT WE LEAD BY
EXAMPLE. SO, --.
>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO LET
EVERYONE KNOW THAT THIS WAS AN
AMAZING CONVERSATION. THIS IS A
GREAT INFORMATION AND GROUND
SETTING AND SING THE FOUNDATION
FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS. I
WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR
PARTICIPANTS FOR SHARING YOUR
WORK IN JOINING US THIS MORNING
AND GIVING US YOUR TIME . THANK
YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, FOR
YOUR COSPONSORSHIP AND AGAIN,
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR
FEEDBACK TO HELP INFORM THE
NEXT FORUM , OR YOU HAVE A
TOPIC THAT YOU WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING,
PLEASE LET OUR OFFICE KNOW .
AGAIN, WE ARE CONVENING EVERY
THIRD FRIDAY OF THE MONTH AND
THIS COMMITTEE , SO, THANK YOU
ALL AGAIN, AND WE WILL SEE YOU
NEXT MONTH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR
NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS. WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM TWO INTO
THE RECORD?
>> COUNCIL BILL 120802 , AN
ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE CITY
LIGHT DEPARTMENT, AUTHORIZING
THE EXECUTION OF A TWO YEAR
AGREEMENT WITH THE PORT OF
SEATTLE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF
SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED
WITH TERMINAL 46 AND THE PIER
66 SHORE POWER PROJECT AND
NEGOTIATION EXECUTION OF
OPERATIONS AGREEMENT. FOR
BRIEFING , DISCUSSION, AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU. ONCE OUR
PRESENTERS ARE READY, PLEASE
JOIN US AT THE TABLE. SURE YOUR
PRESENTATION AND INTRODUCE
OURSELVES, AND BEGIN WHEN
READY.
>> GOOD MORNING, MAURA BRUEGER.
I'M --. WE ARE PLANNING TO
THAT SLIDE DECK AGAIN, AND WE
DO HAVE AN AVAILABLE IF NEEDED.
IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER.
>> GOOD MORNING,
COUNCILMEMBERS. ANDREW STRONG,
I'M OVERSEEING OUR ENGINEERING
PROJECT DELIVERY AND
ENVIRONMENTAL TEAMS.
>> SHOULD I PULL IT UP?
[ WHISPERING ]
>> I WANT TO THANK MAURA FOR
REACHING OUT TO OUR OFFICES AND
WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
WE MAY HAVE. THANK YOU FOR
PRESENTING THIS AT THE LAST
COMMITTEE MEETING AND I AM
LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARNING
MORE AND ASKING SOME QUESTIONS.
>> THIS IS THE LAST PAGE OF THE
PRESENTATION WERE IT EXPLAINS
THE ORDINANCE THAT IS BEFORE
YOU, WHAT IT DOES, WHICH IS
EXECUTE AND DELIVER TWO YEAR
MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH
THE PORT OF SEATTLE , AND THEN
WE WILL MOVE FORWARD AS WELL
WITH EXECUTING A 30 YEAR
OPERATIONS AGREEMENT BETWEEN
CITY LIGHT AND THE PORT OF
SEATTLE. THAT IS THE VOTE YOU
ARE ASKING FOR TODAY. I NOTE
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA HAS SOME
QUESTIONS. I'M SURE YOU GET
DOZENS OF EMAILS, SO WE ARE
HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE ANSWERS
TO THOSE QUESTIONS IF THAT
WOULD BE HELPFUL TO YOU.
>> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I BE
RECOGNIZED?
>> YES, GO AHEAD.
>> THAT IS THE FORMAL PROCESS,
BY THE WAY. WE SHOULDN'T JUST
BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN. GET
PERMISSION FROM THE CHAIR OR
COUNCIL PRESIDENT AS
APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU, YEAH. I
DID SEE THAT AND I DID ASK MY
STAFF TO FORWARD THAT TO THE
TOP OF MY INBOX . I LOOKED AT
IT NOW AS WELL. SO, I
APPRECIATE THE CLARITY. FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THE VIEWING PUBLIC,
IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO COVER
THE SUBSTANCE. I HAVE ONE
FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, BUT YEAH,
IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO COVER
THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT YOU
FOLLOWED UP WITH. THANK YOU.
>> CERTAINLY. THANK YOU FOR
THAT. THERE WERE THREE
QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED . IS
IT MORE OR LESS COSTLY FOR
CRUISE SHIPS TO USE SHORE POWER
INSTEAD OF RUNNING DIESEL
ENGINES HERE IN SEATTLE? AT
THIS TIME, IT IS PERCEIVED TO
BE MORE EXPENSIVE WHEN SHIPS
PLUG INTO SHORE POWER THAT IF
THEY CONTINUE TO RUN THEIR
DIESEL AUXILIARY ENGINES .
TYPICALLY, SHIPS WILL PLUG IN
FOR -- WITHIN AN HOUR OF
ARRIVING AT DOCK. THEY WILL
UNPLUG ABOUT AN HOUR BEFORE
THEY DEPART , AND THE AVERAGE
TIME THAT THEY ARE ON SHORE
POWER IS ABOUT SEVEN TO EIGHT
HOURS, ACCORDING TO THE PORT OF
SEATTLE. THE PROJECTED
UTILIZATION RATE OF SHORE POWER
AT PIER 66 , IT IS ANTICIPATED
FOR FULL SEASON UP TO 2027 AT
ABOUT 70% OF THE CALLS WOULD
CURRENTLY BE ON SHORE POWER. BY
PORT COMMISSIONERS ORDER, DUE
TO JUNE 11th MEETING , IT WILL
RESTRICT ALL CRUISE SHIPS TO
PLUG INTO SHORE POWER AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE 2027 SEASON.
SO, IT IS PERCEIVED THAT SOME
OF THE SHIPS LIKE THE
TECHNOLOGY THAT, WHEN THEY
DOCK, TO BE ABLE TO PLUG IN AT
THIS POINT.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
ADDITIONAL CLARITY AND
FOLLOW-UP, FOLLOW THROUGH. MY
OTHER QUESTION, WHICH ISN'T
GOING TO BE A MATERIAL BLOCKER
OR ISSUE FOR PURPOSES OF ME
VOTING, IF THAT'S WHAT THE
CHAIR DECIDES TO DO TODAY, BUT
I WOULD APPRECIATE FOLLOW-UP .
ADDITIONAL FOLLOW-UP IS NEEDED.
YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE
INFORMATION ON THIS, AND IT'S
GOOD TO KNOW THAT PORT
COMMISSIONERS PASS THAT ORDER
ON JUNE 11th TO REQUIRING ALL
CRUISE SHIPS DO PLUG INTO SHORE
POWER AT THE START OF THE 2027
SEASON , AND THAT IS 100% A
PORT DECISION AND SEEMS TO MAKE
A LOT OF SENSE. OF COURSE,
EVERYTHING WE DO DOESN'T
HAPPEN IN ISOLATION. IT HAS
IMPACTS AND NO DOUBT, THEY
THOUGHT ALL OF THIS THROUGH
WHEN DOING THIS, BUT I WANT TO
MAKE SURE WE ARE ALSO THINKING
THIS THROUGH ON OUR END, TOO.
YOU MENTIONED ONE FACTOR, NOT
ALL SHIPS ARE CURRENTLY
TECHNOLOGICALLY CAPABLE OF
DOING THAT AND MEETING THAT
REQUIREMENT, MEANING THAT
COMPLIANCE OBLIGATION IN 2027 ,
ISSUE NUMBER ONE. ISSUE NUMBER
TWO IS , WE HAVE LESS CONTROL
OVER THESE FACTORS. ISSUE
NUMBER TWO IS, BECAUSE OF WHAT
YOU MENTIONED IN THE FIRST
QUESTION , SPECIFICALLY THAT IT
IS MORE EXPENSIVE FOR SHIPS TO
-- TODAY AT LEAST -- MORE
EXPENSIVE FOR SHIPS TO PLUG
INTO SHORE POWER RATHER THAN
CONTINUE TO USE THEIR DIESEL
ENGINES . IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE
AND MORE COSTLY AND SO SOME
CRUISE SHIPS COULD MAKE THE
BUSINESS DECISION , HEY, IT IS
A REQUIREMENT HERE, MAYBE WE
DON'T WANT TO USE THE PORT AS
A DOCKING STATION BECAUSE IT IS
TOO COST PROHIBITIVE. SO, IT IS
TOO COST PROHIBITIVE TO COMPLY
WITH BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
THE ADEQUATE NUMBER OF SHIPS
THAT ARE TECHNOLOGICALLY
CAPABLE OF COMPLIANCE, OR EVEN
ASSUMING THEY DO, THEY MAKE A
BUSINESS OPERATIONAL DECISION
THAT SEATTLE ISN'T THE BEST
PLACE FOR THAT. SO, YES IT IS
TRUE THAT 100% OF SHIPS WILL BE
REQUIRED TO PLUG IN BY 2027 .
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL HAVE
--. THAT LEAVES AND DOESN'T
ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL DEMAND.
SO, IN LIGHT OF THOSE FACTORS,
AND OTHERS, HOW DOES THAT
IMPACT DEMAND?
>> --.
>> HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?
>> WELL, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE
OF DEMAND, IF 70% OF THE
PERCEIVED SHIPS FOR THE 2024
SEASON AND 25 SEASON , UP TO 27
, IF IT IS TROF THE
CALLS TO PLUG IN, WE ARE NOT
ANTICIPATING ANY DEMAND-SIDE
ISSUES . CERTAINLY FROM A
CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE
THE ABILITY TO FEED CRUISE
SHIPS EVEN AT 100% STARTING
RIGHT OFF. YOU KNOW, IT IS
MULTIPLE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD
BEFORE YOU ARE STARTING TO LOOK
AT ANY CAPACITY IMPACT FROM THE
FURTHER ELECTRIFICATION OF THE
PORT, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE PLANS
IN MIND TO EXPAND OUR
ELECTRICAL GRID IN THAT AREA,
POTENTIALLY BUILDING ANOTHER
SUBSTATION AT THE PORT OF
SEATTLE AND WORK AHEAD OF THE
PORT OF SEATTLE'S
ELECTRIFICATION NEEDS. THEY
HAVE BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT WITH
US WHAT THEIR FUTURE NEEDS ARE
PERCEIVED TO BE, AND THIS 30
YEAR OPERATING AGREEMENT IS
INTENDED TO CAPTURE ALL OF THAT
AS WE MOVE FORAND SO, ON THE
DEMAND SIDE, WE ARE POSITIONED
TO MEET THE DEMAND, ASSUMING
100% THE CURRENT RATES OF THESE
SHIPS ARE IN MARGINAL DECLINE,
OR EVEN DESPITE WHAT WE KNOW
TODAY , WE ARE PREPARED AS A
CITY TO MEET THE DEMAND FROM A
CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE.
>> ABSOLUTELY, YES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE
TIMELINE? WE SIGNED MOU AND
THEN THERE IS -- DOES THAT ALSO
EXECUTE A 30 YEAR AGREEMENT ?
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMING
SOON.
>> I'M , COULD YOU REPEAT THE
QUESTION?
>> THE TIMELINE . DID -- A
TWO-YEAR AGREEMENT , BUT THERE
IS ALSO A 30 YEAR OPERATIONS
AGREEMENT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. WHAT YOU
ARE APPROVING TODAY IS THE
TWO-YEAR AGREEMENT, WHICH IS
FOR THE CURRENT PROJECT, WHICH
IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, AND WILL
BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS
SUMMER, AND THEN WE ARE
DIRECTED AS WELL TO GO AHEAD
AND DEVELOP A LONGER OPERATIONS
AGREEMENT WITH THE PORCH.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHEN WE WILL BE
ABLE TO SEE THAT?
>> IF ANDY DOESN'T KNOW, WE
CAN HAVE PHIL AMBROSE, THE
PROJECT MANAGER, PROVIDE THAT
INFORMATION TO YOU OF WHEN THAT
WOULD BE AVAILABLE. IT FOCUSES
ON HOW THE MAINTENANCE AND
OPERATION OF THAT MARINE CABLE
WHICH IS OWNED BY THE PORT, HOW
THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
UTILITY AND THE PORT OF SEATTLE
WORKS.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO
CALL OUT THAT THE PORT IS FULLY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CORONATION
WITH OUR LOCAL TRIBES, WHICH
INCLUDE THE SUQUAMISH,
MUCKLESHOOT AND OTHERS. DO YOU
KNOW IF THAT IS BEING DONE
CURRENTLY. HAS THEN BEEN
FORTHCOMING? IS THAT A QUESTION
FOR THE PORT?
>> THE WORK THE PORT HAS DONE
FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
MARINE CABLE?
>> WITH THE LOCAL TRIBES, DO
KNOW WHERE THAT IS?
>> I'M HAPPY TO GET MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE PORTS
COORDINATION WITH THE TRIBES.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD . I
DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER
QUESTIONS. AND IF THERE ARE NO
MORE FURTHER QUESTIONS, I WOULD
LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE COA
>> SEC IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL. ANY
FURTHER COMMENTS? WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE
BILL PASSES?
>> [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] THERE
ARE THREE IN FAVOR.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES IN THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT COUNCIL
BILL 120802 PASS. IT WILL BE
SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR
FINAL CONSIDERATIONS. THANK
YOU. WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF
TODAY'S MEETING AGENDA . ARE
THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO
COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE
BEFORE WE ADJOURN? HEARING NO
FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE
THE COMMITTEE, WE ARE NOW
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.