>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. THE
AUGUST 6th 2024 MEETING OF THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WILL
COME TO ORDER. IT IS NOT GOING
32 A.M. I AM ROB SAKA, CHAIR OF
THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
OF THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> YEAR.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
COUNCILMEMBER WOO . VICE CHAIR
HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> HERE .
>> CHAIR SAKA GREAT
>> HERE CREATE
>> CHAIR, THERE ARE THREE
MEMBERS PRESENT.
>> I MOVED TO ADOPT THE AGENDA
IS THERE SECOND?
>> SECOND .
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECOND
TO ADOPT THE AGENDA. RECALL
COLLEAGUES, MY COMMENT FROM THE
COUNCIL BRIEFING. WE WILL HAVE
ONE ITEM, IF THERE ARE NO
ITEMS, THE AGENDA WILL BE
AMENDED TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER
TWO . HEARING NO OBJECTIONS AND
SEEING THUMBS UP, THE AGENDA IS
HEREBY AMENDED WITH THE REMOVAL
OF ITEM NUMBER TWO. ALSO, IF
THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS THE
AMENDED AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED
PREHEARING NO OBJECTIONS AND
SEEING NONE. THE AMENDMENT IS
HEREBY ADOPTED.
>> WELCOME, EVERYONE, MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC, THOSE TUNING IN
AND SEATTLE TVLAND. EXCITED TO
BE WITH YOU HERE TODAY AFTER A
LONG SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE
LEVY. WE ARE ZOOMING BACK TO
SOME OF THE NORMAL ROUTINE,
IMPORTANT NITTY-GRITTY DETAILS
TO HELP KEEP CITY GOVERNMENT
AND IN THIS CASE S.D.O.T.
RUNNING AND FUNCTIONING AND
MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN
EFFECTIVELY PERFORM AND CARRY
OUT OUR MISSION, SPECIFICALLY
FRONTLINE WORKERS. COLLEAGUES ,
I FEEL LIKE I OWE SOMEWHAT OF A
APOLOGY, VICE CHAIR
HOLLINGSWORTH AND COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE. WE DID SO MUCH EXCITING
WORK WITH RESPECT TO
TRANSPORTATION POLICY PLANNING
EARLIER THIS YEAR , WE PASSED A
UNANIMOUS SEATTLE
TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT SETS
THE FRAMEWORK AND VISION FOR 20
YEARS , FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS
IN THE CITY. WE PUT SOME COLOR
AROUND THE EDGES AND DEFINED
WHAT SPECIFIC INVESTMENTS YOU
MEAN . IF APPROVED BY VOTERS IN
THE REVIEW PROCESS, NOW , WE
GET TO DO, AGAIN, THE NORMAL ,
REALLY IMPORTANT LEGISLATIVE
WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE AND THIS
BODY THAT HELPS ENABLE SO MUCH
AND UNLOCK SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY
THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I FEEL
LIKE WE DID A LITTLE DATE BAIT
AND SWITCH AT THIS IS SEXY AND
IMPORTANT WORK. DON'T FORGET
THAT. IN ANY EVENT , WE WILL
NOW OPEN THE HYBRID PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD. IT SHOULD
RELATE TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S
AGENDA AND WITHIN THE PURVIEW
OF THIS COMMITTEE, THIRD HOW
MANY SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP?
>> WE HAVE ZERO IN-PERSON
SPEAKERS AND ONE REMOTE SPEAKER
SIGNED UP AND THEY ARE NOT
PRESENT.
>> ALL RIGHT. I WILL READ THE
NEXT BIT. EACH SPEAKER WILL
HAVE TWO MINUTES. WE WILL START
, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ONLY,
POSSIBLE FOLKS WHICH IS REMOTE
. CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE
PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS IN
CASE THEY HAPPEN TO JOIN IN THE
NEXT MINUTE?
>> SURE. THE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD WILL BE MODERATED IN THE
FOLLOWING MANNER. IT IS UP TO
20 MINUTES IT SPEAKERS WILL BE
CALLED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH
THEY REGISTERED. SPEAKERS WILL
ALTERNATE BETWEEN SETS OF IN
PERSON AND REMOTE SPEAKERS
UNTIL THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
HAS ENDED. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A
CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT.
MICROPHONES WILL BE MUTED IF
THEY DO NOT IN THEIR COMMENT
WITHIN THE ALLOTTED TIME TO
ALLOW US TO CALL THE NEXT WEEK
OR. THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS NOW
OPEN AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE
NEXT SPEAKER ON THE LIST. THE
FIRST SPEAKER IS REMOTE AND IT
IS DARNEL HIBLER . I AM NOT
SEEING DARNELL IN THE MEETING.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOT SEEING
ANY SPEAKERS SO THERE ARE NO
ADDITIONAL REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
WE WILL NOW PROCEED TO OUR
ITEMS OF IS THIS . WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM OF
BUSINESS, THE CLERK PLEASE READ
THE TITLE OF ITEM 1 INTO THE
RECORD ?
>> AGENDA ITEM 1, COUNSEL BILL
120826 A GRANT RELATED TO FUNDS
OF NON-CITY SOURCES AUTHORIZING
THE DIRECTOR TRANSPORTATION TO
ACCEPT SPECIFIED GRANTS AND
EXECUTE RELATED AGREEMENTS AND
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AMENDING
ORDINANCE 12 6955 WHICH ADOPTED
THE 2024 BUDGET, CHANGING OF
PREPARATIONS FOR THE SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION AND
VARIOUS BUDGET CONTROL LEVELS,
AND FROM VARIOUS FUNDS IN THE
BUDGET, AND RATIFYING AND
CONFIRMING CERTAIN PRIOR ACTS.
>> THANK YOU. WILL OUR
PRESENTERS PLEASE JOIN US AT
THE TABLE? WHEN YOU ARE READY
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND
GO AHEAD .
>> THANK YOU. --
>> CHRIS GODWIN, S.D.O.T.
>> ARMAND SHAHBAZIAN S.D.O.T.
>> WE ARE GOING TO BRING UP THE
PRESENTATION. FOR THE RECORD I
AM CHRIS GODWIN, I AM THE
S.D.O.T. FINANCE MANAGER AND I
WILL PRESENT THE FIRST HALF OF
THIS AND THEN PASS IT OFF TO
ARMAND SHAHBAZIAN AND HE WILL
TALK IN DETAIL ABOUT ONE OF THE
GRANTS AND A BIT ABOUT THE
PROGRAM. COUNCILMEMBERS, THE
REASON WE ARE HERE TODAY IS
TALK ABOUT ACCEPTING GRANT
REVENUES AS YOU ARE AWARE, IN
ORDER FOR THE CITY TO ACCEPT
THIRD PARTY REVENUES, THEY HAVE
TO BE ACCEPTED BY THE CITY
COUNCIL. LEGISLATION ASKED FOR
YOU TO ACCEPT THOSE SO WE CAN
SPEND THEM ON PROJECTS. MOVING
ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT
AS A REMINDER WE LIKE TO DO
THIS IN EVERY PRESENTATION
VISION, MISSION AND VALUES AND
GOALS. WE SEE SEATTLE AS A
THRIVING COMMUNITY POWERED BY
DEPENDABLE TRANSPORTATION THAT
WORKS FOR ALL AND WE ARE ON A
MISSION TO PROVIDE
TRANSPORTATION THAT PROVIDE
SAFE AND AFFORDABLE ACCESS.
CORE VALUES AND GOALS PROVIDE
EQUITY, ATTAINABILITY,
LIVABILITY AND. OKAY. WE HAVE A
COUPLE OF AWARDS THAT WE ARE
ASKING YOU TO ACCEPT . THE TWO
AWARDS ARE ABOUT 303,000 FROM
THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL
RESOURCES FOR URBAN AND
COMMUNITY FORESTRY GRANT AND
$500,000 THAT IS DIRECT
APPROPRIATION FROM THE STATE
LEGISLATURE TO MODEL DIGITAL
CONFLICT AREA. MY COLLEAGUE
WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT MORE
IN A MOMENT. DUE TO THE TIMING,
THESE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE
SUPPLEMENTAL PACKAGE THAT YOU
HAVE BEFORE YOU AT THE MOMENT.
THESE AWARD SUPPLEMENT EXISTING
PROGRAMS , WE DO NOT NEED LOCAL
MATCH. THE ONLY PREPARATION WE
ARE ASKING IS FOR THE GRANT
ITSELF AT THIS TIME. THE FIRST
GRANT, WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED
MUTE FORESTRY AND ASSISTANCE
GRANT THAT WILL HELP ANALYSIS
TO IDENTIFY STREET TREE
PLANNING, OBSTACLES , FOR
OPPORTUNITY AND -- LISTEN 25%
CANOPY WHICH IS ALSO PRIORITY
IN THE SOCIAL INDEX. THIS IS A
TIME TO GO THROUGH THOSE MAPS
WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR TREEPLANTING AND ADDITIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES COMING DOWN THE
PIKE IN ORDER FOR US TO PURSUE
ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES AND
PROGRAM CHANGES. WE NEED TO GET
A GOOD MAP ON WHERE THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES EXIST AT THE
MOMENT AND THAT IS WHAT THIS
WILL FUND, TIME FOR PEOPLE TO
GO AND MAP THE OPPORTUNITIES .
ACTUAL OUTCOMES WILL INCLUDE A
GIF LAYER THAT WE WILL INCLUDE
IN THE RESOURCES. THE CENSUS
TRACT, A PARTICULAR NOTE
INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPES,
INDUSTRIAL, DENSE URBAN,
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL, MIXED
AND RESIDENTIAL. ON THE SECOND
HALF , I AM GOING TO PASS THAT
OFF TO ARMAND TO TALK ABOUT THE
ACTUAL GRANT .
>> THANK YOU, CHRIS. THIS PROJE
WASHINGTON STATE SUPPLEMENTAL
TRANSPORTATION BUDGET AND IT
WILL SEEK TO CREATE A DIGITAL
SYSTEM TO PROVIDE INFORMATION
TO CONNECTED FLEETS INCLUDING
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE FLEETS ON
INFORMATION WHERE THERE MAY BE
CONFLICT AREAS INCLUDING
EMERGENCY RESPONDERS MAY BE
LOCATED AS WELL AS TRAFFIC
INCIDENT AREAS. THE PROJECT
ALSO CREATES AN IMPLANTATION
GUIDE FOR JURISDICTIONS TO
IMPLEMENT IN THEIR LOCATIONS .
TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND AS
TO HOW WE ARE FRAMING THIS
WORK, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE
HELPFUL TO GO OVER THE TIMELINE
FOR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE
OPERATIONS IN THE CITY.
WASHINGTON STATE HAS SEEN
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE ACTIVITY
SINCE 2019 . GOING BACK TO 2017
IS WHEN GOVERNOR INSLEE
AUTHORIZED AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE
TESTING STATEWIDE WHICH CREATED
A PATHWAY FOR COMPANIES TO TEST
THEIR VEHICLES ANYWHERE IN THE
STATE. IN THAT SAME YEAR , THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT
TRANSPORTATION RELEASED THE NEW
MOBILITY PLAYBOOK WHICH
INCLUDED A PULMONARY FRAMEWORK
ON HOW TO REGULATE AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLE OPERATIONS . IN 2019,
THE FIRST COMPANY STARTED KNOWN
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE TESTING AND
THAT COMPANY IS , THEY HAVE
MAINTAINED TESTING PRESENT
SINCE 2019 . IN THAT SAME YEAR,
THEY JOINED THE WASHINGTON
STATE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE
WORKING GROUP , THERE IS AN
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE THAT WAS
CREATED AND SEATTLE WAS A SOUL
CITY REPRESENTATION ON THAT
COMMITTEE. IN 2021, A SECOND
VENDOR BEGAN VEHICLE TESTING,
THAT COMPANY IS ZOOX , THEY ARE
NOW OWNED BY AMAZON. IN 2022,
TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE, THE
INCREASE TESTING ACTIVITY WE
CREATED A CITY PERMIT PROGRAM
FOR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE TESTING
TO SUPPLEMENT THE REQUIREMENTS
THAT THE STATE HAS. SOME OF OUR
REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE REQUIRING
TEST DRIVER AND ALL VEHICLES
PROVIDING FIRST RESPONDER
DEMONSTRATION EVENT AND
INTERACTION GUIDE FOR FIRST
RESPONDERS SO THEY KNOW HOW TO
INTERACT WITH VEHICLES SHOULD
IT BE IN A COLLISION . IN 2023
WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH
THE CITY OF BELLEVUE TO CREATE
A VISION FOR AUTOMATED VEHICLES
WHICH OUTLINES A SET OF
REGIONAL GOALS THAT CAN BE
APPLIED TO OUR JURISDICTION
RECKON I THINK THAT AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO
TRANSFORM TRANSPORTATION BEYOND
JUST THE CITY BOUNDARIES . IN
2023, WE ALSO ISSUED OUR FIRST
PERMIT TO BOTH ZOOX AND 20
NVIDIA, ALSO IN 2023 S.D.O.T.
JOINED THE VEHICLE PARTNER
EDUCATION WHICH IS A INDUSTRY
COLLABORATIVE GROUP AND WE WERE
ONE OF THE FIRST TO JOIN THAT
GROUP . IN 2024, WHICH IS , WE
HAVE THE SEATTLE TRANSPORTATION
PLAN WHICH INCLUDES THE
MOBILITY ELEMENT WHICH SERVES
AS OUR GUIDE FOR HOW WE
APPROACH THIS TECHNOLOGY . WE
ALSO LAUNCHED OUR THOMAS
VEHICLE INCLUSIVE PLANNING
PROJECT WHICH INCLUDES A COHORT
OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WERE
PROVIDING PERSPECTIVE INPUT ON
HOW WE MIGHT APPROACH
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE PLANNING. WE
WILL BEGIN OUR PROJECT , WHICH
I WILL SHARE IN MORE DETAIL
SHORTLY. TO GUIDE THIS PROJECT
WE HAVE LOOKED AT EXPENSES OF
CITIES WHO HAVE HAD MORE MATURE
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE DEPLOYMENTS
INCLUDING SAN FRANCISCO AND
AUSTIN, TEXAS . WE HAVE LEARNED
QUITE A LOT FROM THE CITIES WHO
HAVE HAD AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES
OPERATING IN HIGHER NUMBERS,
BOTH DRIVER AND DRIVER LESS AND
PROVIDING PASSENGER SERVICES AT
SOMETHING WE HAVE SEEN,
ESPECIALLY FROM SAN FRANCISCO
AS A COMMON OCCURRENCE IN WHICH
A THOMAS VEHICLES ACCOUNT FOR
WHAT IS CALLED A EDGE CASE
WHICH IS A SCENARIO THAT THEY
MAY NOT BE WELL PROGRAMMED FOR
TREATMENT OF THOSE CASES
INVOLVE FIRST RESPONDERS . WE
HAVE SEEN NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES NOT
PROPERLY PULLING OVER WHEN
THERE IS A FIREFIGHTING VEHICLE
PASSING , OR NOT BEING ABLE TO
DETECT THE FIRE HOSES AND
RUNNING OVER FIRE HOSES AND NOT
BEING ABLE TO ADEQUATELY ACCEPT
TRAFFIC CONTROL MANEUVERS FROM
HUMAN TRAFFIC CONTROL OFFICERS
. THIS DIAGRAM IS AN EXAMPLE OF
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLE EXPERIENCES A CONFLICT
WITH A FIRST RESPONDER
PRESENTLY. WHAT HAPPENS IS THE
VEHICLE WILL COME TO A STOP IN
ANY POSITION THAT IS
INCONVENIENT FOR FIRST
RESPONDERS, ESPECIALLY WALKING
THE TRAVEL PATH. FIRST
RESPONDERS THEN HAVE TO EITHER
CONNECT WITH THE REMOTE ADVISOR
FROM THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE
COMPANY OR CALL 911 DISPATCH TO
BE CONNECTED TO THE AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLE OPERATOR. FROM THEN ,
THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE OPERATOR
MIGHT THEN ENGAGE THEIR FLEET
SUPPORT FOLKS TO COME OUT AND
REMOVE THE VEHICLE WHICH COULD
BE 20 MINUTES. CURRENTLY FIRST
RESPONDERS AND TRAFFIC CONTROL
CAN COME OUT AND TOLD THE
VEHICLE. NEEDLESS TO SAY, MANY
OF THESE CAUSES SIGNIFICANT
DELAYS WHICH CAN OFTEN HAMPER
THE REACTION TIME FROM FIRST
RESPONDERS . I THAT CAME
HEAD-TO-HEAD IN AN INCIDENT IN
WHICH AN AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE
CARRYING A PASSENGER IN SAN
FRANCISCO COLLIDED WITH A FIRE
TRUCK RESPONDING TO AN
EMERGENCY AND THAT DELAYED THE
EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIME . TO
AVOID THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
WHAT WE ARE CALLING A DIGITAL
CONFLICT AWARENESS SYSTEM .
WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS
TO INTAKE INFORMATION THAT THE
CITY IS PRODUCING WHICH
INCLUDES REAL-TIME 911 DISPATCH
INFORMATION ON CONSTRUCTION
ZONES AND ALSO REAL-TIME
TRAFFIC INCIDENTS , TO TAKE ALL
THAT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE
AND TRANSLATE IT INTO A DATA
STANDARD THAT CAN BE READ
CONNECTED FLEETS INCLUDING
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES AND OTHER
CONNECTED FLEETS . WE WILL USE
THAT INFORMATION TO CREATE
SPECIFIC GEO-FENCES WHICH ARE
ESSENTIALLY DIGITAL BOUNDARIES
THAT VEHICLE SHOULD NOT
APPROACH. THESE DIGITAL
BOUNDARIES CAN BE QUITE
NUANCED. FOR CERTAIN
EMERGENCIES WE MIGHT INSTITUTE
A SLOW ZONE FOR VEHICLES TO
MOVE SLOWLY IF THERE MAY BE
MORE TRAFFIC CONTROL OR A
SPECIFIC NO GO ZONE SO VEHICLES
COULD FIND AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE
. WE WILL PROVIDE THOSE IN REAL
TIME AS THE REAL-TIME IS
PRODUCED TO THE DIFFERENT FLEET
OPERATORS AND WE WILL BE ABLE
TO MONITOR HOW THAT IS BEING
USED TO MAKE SURE THAT
OPERATORS ARE ACTUALLY IN
TAKING THAT INFORMATION AND
UTILIZING IT . OUR PLAN IS TO
ENGAGE WITH A DIFFERENT
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE OPERATORS TO
UNDERSTAND IMPACTS THAT IT
MIGHT HAVE ON THE OPERATION
BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE .
SOME POSITIVE IMPACTS CAN BE
REDUCTION IN INTERVENTION BY
THE REMOTE OPERATORS TO HELP
GUIDE VEHICLES , OR SUCCESSFUL
REROUTE BY AN AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLE TO AVOID A CONFLICT
ZONE . WE WILL THEN WORK WITH
THE UNIVERSITY WASHINGTON TO
CREATE A IMPLANTATION GUIDE FOR
OTHER CITIES WHO ARE ALSO USING
THIS DATA STANDARD. THE OUTCOME
IS THAT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES AND
OTHER CONNECTED FLEETS WILL BE
AWARE OF CONFLICT ZONES BEFORE
THEY APPROACH THEM AND WILL BE
ABLE TO AVOID THEM TO AVOID
DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS CAUSED BY
THE IMPACT.
>> ALL RIGHT . THANK YOU.
REALLY INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION
CREATE A UNIQUE AREA, AT LEAST
FOR ME , WITH RESPECT TO THE
SECOND GRANT ITEM THERE GRADE
JUST FOR CLARITY , THIS GRANT
WERE NOT -- I GUESS MY FIRST
OFF, WE ARE ACCEPTING FUNDS, WE
ARE NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO BUILD
THIS TECHNOLOGY FEATURE
OURSELVES, WE ARE GOING TO
CONTRACT IT OUT AND LET A THIRD
PARTY DEPLOY IT, IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> CORRECT. WE ARE USING THE
CITY DATA SOURCES AS THE DATA
INPUT, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH A
THIRD-PARTY TO MEET WITH THE
DEVELOPER OF OUR DIGITAL POLICY
FEET FEED.
>> ALSO, JUST FOR CLARITY, IF
AUTHORIZED, THIS PROGRAM IS NOT
AT ALL GOING TO MODIFY THE
EXISTING PROCESS FOR AUTONOMOUS
VEHICLES IN THE CITY , IT IS
STILL SUBJECT TO THE SAME EXACT
SAFETY STANDARDS AND PROTOCOLS
THAT WERE ROLLED OUT WHEN THIS
WAS PASSED , CORRECT? INCLUDING
MANDATORY PRESENCE OF A TEST
DRIVER IN EACH VEHICLE ,
AMONGST OTHER THINGS THAT YOU
MENTIONED . COLLEAGUES, JUST
FOR CLARITY AS WELL, FOR
SOMETHING AS WE KNOW AND HAVE
LEARNED OVER TIME, THIS IS
$100,000 PLUS SOME CHANGE WORTH
OF LEGISLATION THAT IS REQUIRED
, LEGISLATION IS REQUIRED EVERY
TIME WE SET THIRD-PARTY FUNDING
FROM ONE DOLLAR, WHATEVER THE
DOLLAR AMOUNT, SUBJECT TO
CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE NOT
APPLICABLE HERE. TYPICALLY , WE
ADDRESS THIS PROCESS , THE
NORMAL LEGISLATIVE PURSUING TO
WHAT WE ENABLE AND ARE ABLE TO
ACCEPT THIS KIND OF FUNDING IS
TRUE THE BUDGET AND SUPPLEMENT
THE BUDGET PROCESS AND CERTAIN
OCCASIONS LIKE THIS WE HAVE
STANDALONE LEGISLATION TO ALLOW
US TO DO THAT , THIS IS ONE
CLASSIC EXAMPLE .. . CLASSIC
STUFF. FIRST OFF, COUNCILMEMBER
WOO IS HERE AND COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS IS EXCUSED UNLESS HE
CAN JOIN. WE HAVE QUESTIONS,
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR SOCCER,
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
VERY INTERESTING LOOK INTO THE
FUTURE , IT WILL BE INTERESTING
TO SEE HOW THINGS PLAY OUT. ONE
PIECE THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I
HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE MORE
GENERAL SENSE. MY EXPOSURE IS
REGULAR SEATTLE THAT YOU READ
IN ARTICLES AND YOU HEAR ABOUT
SAN FRANCISCO'S EXPERIENCE AND
YOU SEE DIFFERENT PIECES LIKE
THAT. I DO NOT HAVE THE
IN-DEPTH PIECE THAT CHAIR SAKA
WOULD GET BECAUSE OF HIS WORK
WITH S.D.O.T.. I DID FIND THE
EXPANSE OF SAN FRANCISCO
INTERESTING AS IT RELATES TO,
THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC LATELY OF
THE S.D.O.T. PUBLIC SAFETY
INTERFACE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS
IF THERE IS ANYTHING FURTHER ON
THAT IN TERMS OF S.D.O.T. , AS
F.D.O.T. , OR ANY KIND OF
CORONATION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC
SAFETY WORLD HERE IN SEATTLE
AND PUBLIC SAFETY WORLD IN SAN
FRANCISCO FOR EXAMPLE , OR ANY
OTHER PART OF THE COUNTRY THAT
MAY HAVE A SIMILAR PROGRAM. ARE
THERE ANY EARLY LESSONS LEARNED
IN TERMS OF THAT?
>> THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. WE
HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT
AND SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO
KEEP THEM UPDATED ON ALL OF OUR
PROJECTS AND ALSO THE
DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE SEEN IN
OTHER CITIES. MOST RECENTLY WE
CONNECTED THE SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT WITH THE CITY OF
AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT WHOSE
LEAVING CONVERSATIONS ON BETTER
ALIGNMENT BETWEEN FIRST
RESPONDING ORGANIZATIONS AND TO
SHARE LESSONS LEARNED. WE HAVE
MADE THOSE INTRODUCTIONS, WHICH
IS EXCITING. S.D.O.T. IS ALSO
IN A VERY ACTIVE IN THE
NATIONAL CITY ASSOCIATION
TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS. THEY
HAVE THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE
WORKING GROUP HERE AND WE ARE
VERY ACTIVE IN THAT GROUP AND
WE ALSO SHARE OUT INFORMATION
THAT WE HAVE LEARNED ABOUT
POLICE AND FIRE TEAM. WE KEEP
POLICE AND FIRE WITHIN OUR
CITYWIDE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE AND
INTERDEPARTMENTAL TEAM THAT WE
READILY SHARE UPDATES WITH.
THROUGH OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH
POLICE AND FIRE, WE HAVE
UPLIFTED SOME AREAS THAT WE
HAVE REALLY HEARD LOUD AND
CLEAR , BOTH THE VENDORS WHO
HAVE TESTING PRESENCE IN THE
CITY, AS WELL AS TWO STATE
POLICYMAKERS WHO ARE
CONSIDERING DEPLOYMENT
LEGISLATION . SOME OF THOSE
INCLUDE THE REQUEST TO HAVE A
DEVICE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE
VEHICLE FOR FIRST RESPONDERS TO
BE ABLE TO AUTOMATICALLY TALK
WITH FLEET SUPPORT. CURRENTLY ,
THE COMPANIES THAT ARE TESTING
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES REQUIRE A
FIREFIGHTER OR POLICE OFFICER
TO CALL THE PHONE NUMBER USING
A TELEPHONE, WHICH WE HAVE TOLD
THEM IS NOT QUITE SUFFICIENT
FOR SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BE
WEARING RESPONDING EQUIPMENT,
THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE PHONE ON
THEM. WE HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE
AT UPLIFTING WHAT WE HEAR FROM
POLICE AND FIRE AS WELL AS THE
VENDORS. AS PART OF OUR PERMIT
PROGRAM WE REQUIRE A
DEMONSTRATION. WE RECENTLY HAVE
ONE WITH -- ZOOX WHO HAS THEIR
LARGEST TESTING FACILITY AND WE
HAD MORE THAN 30
REPRESENTATIVES FROM SEATTLE
POLICE, FIRE AND TRANSPORTATION
OPERATIONS GROUP THAT THIS
TRAFFIC INCIDENT RESPONSE .
THEY GOT TO HAVE VARIOUS
SUSTAINED AMOUNT OF TIME OF
ASKING QUESTIONS WITH THE
VENDORS AND ALSO PHYSICALLY
INTERACTING WITH THE VEHICLE TO
SEE HOW THEY MIGHT ENGAGE WITH
DIFFERENT SENSORS AND HOW TO
TURN OFF THE VEHICLE SHOULD IT
BE INVOLVED IN A COLLISION . WE
ARE VERY ACTIVE IN MAKING SURE
THAT THOSE EVENTS CONTINUE ,
ESPECIALLY IF THE TESTING
VEHICLES EVOLVE AND CHANGE.
>> THANK YOU. AS A FOLLOW-UP TO
THAT, THANK YOU FOR THAT
RESPONSE. I FORGET THE TITLE OF
THE WORKING GROUP , CAN YOU
SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE
AS FROM A GOOD GOVERNESS
PERSPECTIVE , IT WOULD BE
INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT PARTS
OF CITY GOVERNMENT ARE BEING
BROUGHT IN. BEYOND PUBLIC
SAFETY, WHAT ELSE IS BEING
BROUGHT IN AND HOW DOES THAT
INTERACT AND HOW DOES THAT
SUPPORT THE EFFORT?
>> IT IS A PRETTY BROAD GROUP .
RIGHT NOW IT IS MANY DIFFERENT
TEAMS WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION
DEPARTMENT, WE ALSO INCLUDE
POLICE AND FIRE . WE ALSO HAVE
MEMBERS FROM THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT ATTEND
AND ALSO FROM SEATTLE IT , FROM
THE PRIVACY ASPECT . THE GROUP
MEETS GENERALLY, WE TRY TO MEET
ONCE A QUARTER , VIRTUALLY, AND
I PROVIDE MORE REGULAR EMAIL
UPDATES TO THAT GROUP. THE
GROUP IS MORE ACTIVE DURING THE
LEGISLATIVE SESSION BECAUSE
THERE HAS BEEN DEPLOYMENT
LEGISLATION THAT THE STATE
LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN
CONSIDERING FOR SOME TIME.
DURING THAT SESSION WE TRY TO
STAY VERY COORDINATED WITH WHAT
THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ARE
FROM DIFFERENT FOLKS AT THE
CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
ALIGNED IN OUR RESPONSE.
>> THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE
IT. ONE LESS THING GOING BACK
TO PUBLIC SAFETY, LITTLE
OUTSIDE OF THIS, PAGE 7 , I
REALLY APPRECIATE THE TERM
GEO-FENCING . WITH E MOBILITY,
THE SCOOTERS, I HAVE BEEN ON
THE WATERFRONT AND HAVE HAD
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FOLKS
THERE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT
GROUPS THAT HAVE OVERSIGHT
BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING IN A
NEW BIKE LANE, WHICH IS GREAT
AND HAVING SEPARATION FROM THE
PEDESTRIANS. I JUST WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT GEO-FENCING IS AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE OR FACTOR IN
PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL , AS WE
GET BACK TO THIS INTERFACE
BETWEEN S.D.O.T. AND PUBLIC
SAFETY. I APPRECIATE HAVING
THAT ON THERE. CHAIR SAKA,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
>> OF COURSE , OUR CHAIR PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE IS GOING TO,
WAS GOING TO OR ALWAYS MEANT TO
ASK ASTUTE PUBLIC SAFETY
RELATED QUESTIONS. SOME WITH
THE COMMISSION OF MY PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR,
CHAIR SAKA.
>> THANK YOU. I SAW THAT COMING
A MILE AWAY. THAT WAS A GREAT
QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THAT
RESPONSE. THIS DOES NOT MODIFY
OUR ABILITY TO OR DO ANYTHING
TO OUR ABILITY TO GRANT PERMITS
OR RESTRICT THEM OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT . ALL THE RULES ARE
SET AND THERE IS A PROGRAM IN
PLACE FOR THAT . PERSONALLY IT
IS SOMETHING I'M EXCITED ABOUT
AS A TECH LAWYER , I AM VERY
OPTIMISTIC, I'M CAUTIOUSLY
OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC
IMPLEMENTATION AND TECHNOLOGY ,
SEATTLE HAS ITS PART AS WELL.
SHOUT OUT TO ZOOX AND SEATTLE
WHO ARE ONE OF THE COMPANIES
THAT ARE INDUSTRY LEADERS IN
THIS SPACE. THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION DOES NOT MODIFY
THAT , IT JUST ALLOWS US TO
ACCEPT A GRANT TO BUILD A
CERTAIN TECHNOLOGY AND TOOL
THAT WE CAN USE TO STUDY AND
GATHER DATA AND THEREFORE
INSIGHTS AND FURTHER INNOVATE .
ANYWAYS, COLLEAGUES , ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY .
COOL. THANK YOU AGAIN , ARMAND,
CHRIS AND PHIL, I APPRECIATE
THE PRESENTATION. I MOVE --
FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT TO
CONFIRM ONE MORE TIME, ANY
FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ?
ALL RIGHT PRETTY COOL. I MOVE
THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS
PASSAGE OF COUNSEL BILL 120826
. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND .
>> ALL RIGHT . IT HAS BEEN
MOVED AND SECOND RECOMMEND
PASSAGE OF THE BILL. ANY FINAL
COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, SEEING
NONE, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF
THE BILL?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER WOO.
>> YES BREES VICE CHAIR
HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> THAT WAS FOUR BOTH IN FAVOR.
>> MOTION CARRIES. THE
COMMITTEE RECORDATION THAT THE
BILL PASSED WILL BE SENT TO THE
CITY COUNCIL FOR VINYL
CONSIDERATION. WE REMOVED THE
SECOND ITEM FROM THE AGENDA,
SO, THAT MEANS , WE HAVE
REACHED THE END OF TODAY'S
MEETING AGENDA AT THE NEXT
MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR
SEPTEMBER 3rd , RIGHT AFTER OUR
RECESS . I HOPE YOU ALL ARE
RESTED, ENERGIZED AND READY TO
GO , DAY ONE, WHEN WE GET BACK
WE ARE FIRED UP AND AT IT AGAIN
ON EXCITING TRANSPORTATION
POLICY PLANNING EFFORTS AT THE
COUNCIL LEVEL. IS THERE ANY
FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE
THE COMMITTEE BEFORE WE
ADJOURN? HEARING NO FURTHER
BUSINESS THAT COME BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE, WE ARE ADJOURNED .
IT IS 10:01 A.M.