>>> 2025 MEETING, IT IS 2:03.
I'M SARAH NELSON, WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER.
>> PRESENT.
>> EIGHT PRESENT.
>>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE WILL
SHARE COMMENTS ON THE
PROCLAMATION THEN I'LL OPEN
THE FLOOR FOR COMMENTS FROM
COUNCIL MEMBERS THEN AFTER
COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS, WE'LL
SUSPEND THE RULES TO PRESENT
THE PROCLAMATION TO OUR GUESTS
AND ALLOW FOR GUESTS TO PROVIDE
BRIEF EXCELLENTS THEMSELVES.
WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE.
>> I WANT TO EXTEND MY DEEP
THANKS TO THE HUMAN SERVICES
DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR
PARTNERSHIP IN BRINGING FORWARD
THIS PROCLAMATION, ADDITIONALLY
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY
COLLEAGUES FOR ADDING THEIR
SIGNATURE ON THIS LEGISLATION
YESTERDAY. BASIC RESOURCES LIKE
SHELTER, MONEY OR AFFECTION.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT IS --
IT IS ABHORRENT THAT IT IS
HAPPENING AT ALL AND THAT IT'S
HAPPENING HERE IN SEATTLE. I'M
PROUD TO HELP SURVIVORS IN
NAVIGATING A PATH FORWARD.
TODAY WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE WITH
US NUMEROUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT
HAVE DEEP EXPERIENCE IN WORKING
WITH SURVIVORS AND THEY HAVE
PROVIDED TIRELESS EFFORTS TO
SUPPORT OUR SEATTLE NEIGHBORS
IN HEALING FROM THIS TRAUMA.
I'M HONORED TO PRESENTING ALL
OF YOU WITH A SIGNED
PROCLAMATION THAT JANUARY SHALL
BE RECOGNIZED AS HUMAN
TRAFFICKING PREVENTION MONTH.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH ARE
THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL
MEMBERS?
>> SEEING NONE, WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE
COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WISH TO
HAVE THE THEIR SIGNATURES,
PARDON ME. IF NO OBJECTION THE
COUNCIL RULES WILL BE SUSPENDED
AND THE PROCLAMATION WILL BE
PRESENTED. HEARING NO
OPPOSITION. THE PROCLAMATION
WILL NOW BE PRESENTED.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> HELLO, MY NAME IS JASMINE
ODORO AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
REST. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY
OF SEATTLE ON BEHALF OF REST.
AND THE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS WHO
ARE DOING THIS WORK. THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR THIS PRO
PROCLAMATION IN RECOGNIZING
THIS PROBLEM WITHIN OUR CITY
AND COMMUNITY. I PRAY THAT AS
WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS
PARTNERSHIP AND AS IT CONTINUES
THAT SEATTLE WILL CONTINUE TO
LEAD THE WAY IN PRIORITIZING,
MOBILIZING AND TARGETING
EFFORTS.
>>> COLLEAGUES AT THIS TIME WE
WILL START THE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD. THE COMMENT PERIOD. WE
WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH AND
PLEASE BEGIN WITH THE IN PERSON
SPEAKERS.
>> SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN
ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE
REGISTERED. WE'LL BEGIN WITH
IN PERSON SPEAKERS AND FOLLOW
WITH THE REMOTE SPEAKERS.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
10 SECONDS ARE LEFT ON THEIR
TIME AND SPEAKERS MIC'S WILL
BE MUTED IF THEY DON'T ENTER
THEIR COMMENTS WITHIN THE
ALLOTTED TIME TO ALLOW US TO
CALL ON THE NEXT SPEAKER.
>> THE FIRST SPEAKER IS
CAROLINE, LANISHA AND TOLEDO.
>> CAROLINE MALONE. I'M
CAROLINE MALONE I LIVE AT
CHANCERY PLACE APARTMENT
910MERRIAME STREET AND SO DOES
THIS CRIMINAL COP WHO REFUSES
TO LEAVE. AND BECAUSE I PROTEST
HIS PRESENCE, HE'S CONCOCTED A
SCHEME TO HAVE ME EVICTED. I
MUST TWO TO COURT ON BEHALF OF
CHANCERY PLACE APARTMENTS WHICH
IS ILLEGAL. BECAUSE CHANCERY
PLACE APARTMENTS IS MANAGED BY
CATHOLIC COMMUNITY SERVICES.
BUT THIS CRIMINAL COP, I DON'T
KNOW HIS NAME, IT'S NOT GIVEN
TO ME. BUT HE LIVES IN THE
BUILDING AND BECAUSE I
CONSTANTLY PROTEST HIS
PRESENCE, HE'S CONCOCTED A
SCHEME TO ACCUSE ME OF UNLAWFUL
DETAINMENT. NOW, THESE ARE 10
PAYMENTS. RENTAL PAYMENTS MONEY
ORDERS HE RETURNS TO ME EACH
MONTH IN ORDER TO ACCUSE ME OF
UNLAWFUL DETAINMENT. AND SO,
THIS IS CRIMINAL. NO ONE WILL
TAKE UP THE CAUSE. CITY COUNCIL
WON'T LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE OF
COURSE IT'S ONE OF THEIR
BELOVED COPS BEHIND IT. BUT I
INTEND TO GO TO COURT ON
FEBRUARY 4th TO DEFEND MYSELF.
BECAUSE 10 MONTHS EACH TIME I
SUBMIT A RENTAL PAYMENT, IT'S
SENT BACK TO ME IN ORDER TO
CLAIM THAT I'M OCCUPYING
PREMISES WITHOUT PAYING. THERE
ARE OTHER ISSUES. I'M UNDER 24
HOUR SURVEILLANCE BECAUSE I
PROTEST THIS THUG. OTHER COPS
COME ON THE PREMISES. I EITHER
SUBMIT OR ELSE GO ON MY WAY AND
NOT SAY. AND SEATTLE FIREMEN
ALSO ARE HARASS ME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> HI MY NAME IS LENISHA DAVIS.
EARLIER TODAY THE COUNCIL MELT
TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO MAKE
SEATTLE SAFER FOR ALL OF US. I
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON FOR BEING
THE FIRST ON THE COUNCIL TO
CHAMPION THIS FIGHT. FOUR YEARS
AGO IN YOUR RUN FOR OFFICE, YOU
WERE THE LONE VOICE STANDING
AGAINST CAUSE TO DEFUND OUR
POLICE. YOU WERE STRONG IN YOUR
STRENGTH INSPIRED OTHERS TO
JOIN YOU. AND NOW, SEATTLE IS
BLESSED WITH A COUNCIL THAT
TRULY BELIEVES IN THE VALUE OF
PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS A
COUNCIL OF HEROS. RECENTLY
JEALOUSY SHOWED ITSELF AGAIN AS
THE DISTRICT 2 CANDIDATE
RESIGNED. SHE DECIDED TO ATTACK
MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL. IT WAS
NOT APPROPRIATE AND HER WORDS
ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY THE
RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT 2.
DISTRICT 2 SUPPORTS WHAT THIS
COUNCIL IS DOING AND YOU WILL
SEE US STANDING WITH YOU WHEN
YOU NEED US. AND DISTRICT TWO
SUPPORTS THE APPOINTMENT OF
BISHOP RAY ROGERS TO THE VACANT
DISTRICT 2 SEAT. BISHOP ROGERS
HAS LIVED IN DISTRICT 2 HIS
ENTIRE LIFE. DISTRICT ROGERS IS
RECOGNIZED AND RESPECTED BY ALL
LEVELS OF SOCIETY. BISHOP
ROGERS HAS STOOD BY YOU. FOR
THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW, BISHOP
PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW THAT HE
HAS A SHIELD AT YOUR BACK
PROTECTING YOU FROM PERSONAL
ATTACKS HE HAS PUT HIS
REPUTATION ON THE LINE BECAUSE
HE BELIEVES IN YOUR VISION FOR
SEATTLE. THIS WEEK HE WILL ASK
YOU TO GIVE HIM THE SAME CHANCE
THAT HE GAVE SOME OF YOU TO
MAKE SEATTLE A BETTER PLACE FOR
US ALL. HE BELIEVED IN YOU
ENOUGH TO PLANT A FLAG. HE TOLD
THOSE AROUND YOU THAT YOU
DESERVE TO BE HEARD.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU
TO STOP TALKING.
>>> NEXT WE HAVE DAVID TOLEDO
FOLLOWED BY JOHN STROMSOND.
>> HI THERE. I BROUGHT ONE OF
THESE TODAY WHICH I DON'T
NORMALLY HAVE. I USUALLY FREE
STYLE IT. BUT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO
I STOOD BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND
AT THAT TIME I ASKED YOU TO
CONSIDER APPOINTING TONYA WOO
TO THE DISTRICT VACANT SEAT. I
WANTED TO APOLOGIZE. MAYBE I
WAS A LITTLE TOO ZELOUS IN
SUPPORTING TONYA NOT KNOWING
SHE WAS NOT INTERESTED IN THE
POSITION. THE THING ABOUT ME IS
I'M 100 PERCENTER. IF I
SUPPORT YOU I'M GOING TO KEEP
SUPPORTER YOU. SO I WOULD LIKE
TO SHARE A STORY WITH YOU.
ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO BEFORE I WAS
REALLY INTO POLITICS I GOT TO
KNOW MAYOR McGINN. HE WAS VERY
OPEN TO SOME OF THE WORK
READINESS PROGRAMS I WAS
SUPPORTING. AND EVENTUALLY THE
CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE SOME
OF THEM. SO I WAS VERY MUCH A
SUPPORTER OF McGINN. AND IN
SOME CASES I FEEL LIKE THESE
WERE REALLY LIFE CHANGING
APPOINTMENTS. BUT A FEW YEARS
LATER WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR
REELECTION, McGINN WAS
SERIOUSLY ATTACKED BY SOME OF
THE LOCAL ARTS TABLOIDS. WHICH
MADE ME KIND OF FURIOUS BECAUSE
I COULD SEE THE GOOD WORKS HE
WAS DOING. NOT ONE
COMMISSIONER, MANAGER, NOR
DIRECTOR STOOD UP FOR McGINN.
NOT ONE PERSON IN A POSITION TO
MAKE A DIFFERENCE SAID, LOOK AT
WHAT MIKE HAS DONE FOR THE ARTS
COMMUNITY. SO THAT REALLY BROKE
MY HEART. I WANT TO ASK YOU IS
THERE VALUE IN A FRIEND, AN
ASSOCIATION OR LEADER THAT WILL
STORM THE GATES WITH YOU.
BEHIND THE SCENES SUPPORT IS
GOOD BUT ISN'T THERE VALUE ON
A FRIEND THAT PUTS THEIR
REPUTATION ON THE LINE FOR YOU.
THAT WILL SPEND THEIR STREET
CAPABILITY OR POLITICAL CAPITAL
TO PROTECT YOU BECAUSE THERE IS
SUCH A PERSON AND HIS NAME IS
BISHOP RAY ROGERS. THANK YOU.
>> FOLLOWING JOHN WILL BE
YVETTE. AFTER YVETTE WILL BE
MONTE.
>> ONE YEAR AGO, ONE YEAR AGO
YESTERDAY THE PAY UP GIG WORKER
BILL WENT INTO EFFECT INTO
SEATTLE. MANY OF US SPOKE HERE
TO THE COUNCIL TO TELL YOU IT
WASN'T WORKING AS PLANNED.
WASHINGTON WORKERS SAID IT WAS
TOO SOON TO MAKE CONCLUSIONS.
NOW WE HAVE ONE YEAR.
EVERYTHING WE TOLD YOU HAS COME
TO FRUITION. EVERYTHING THAT
WORKING WASHINGTON HAS PROVEN
FALSE. THE RESTAURANT DELIVERY
MARKET IS DESTROYED. A
SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE
DOING DELIVERY WERE JUST BARELY
SURVIVES. ALL OF THOSE WORKERS
ARE GONE. SO NOW MANY OF THOSE
ARE LIKELY HOMELESS. SEATTLE
HAS THE FASTEST GROWING
HOMELESSNESS POPULATION IN THE
COUNTRY AND THE PAY UP BILL IS
CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. INCOME
FROM DELIVERY IS CRITICAL FOR
PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHORT TERM
UNEMPLOYMENT AND ENABLES THEM
TO PAY RENT. NOW THEY HAVE NO
SAFETY NET. WHAT HAPPENS TO
THEM. WE WERE ALL MAKING A GOOD
LIVING BEFORE WORKING
WASHINGTON DECIDED TO MEDDLE IN
A MARKET THAT WAS WORKING FOR
ANYONE WILLING TO WORK HARD. I
KNOW THE COUNCIL HAD GOOD
INTENTIONS WITH THE PAY UP
BILL. WORKING WASHINGTON MISLED
YOU BECAUSE THEY WERE ARROGANT
AND IGNORANT OF THE MARKET AND
THE WAY IT ACTUALLY WORKS AND
OF COURSE HAD AN AGENDA TO
CREATE UNION WORKERS. THERE ARE
SO MANY VULNERABLE WORKERS WHO
CAN'T FUNCTION IN A FULL TIME
JOB BECAUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES. DELIVERY WAS PERFECT
FOR THEM TO SUBSIST ON THEIR
OWN. THAT IS NOW GONE. PLEASE
RECONSIDER THE REVISED BILL
CB1272025. NOTHING IS WORSE
THAN DOING NOTHING. PAY UP HAS
HARMED SO MANY PEOPLE WHO
DON'T HAVE THE AGENCY TO COME
DOWN HERE AND ADVOCATE FOR
THEMSELVES. YOUR JOB AS COUNCIL
MEMBERS IS TO HELP CITIZENS,
WORKERS AND BUSINESSES THAT PAY
UP BILL HAS HARMED ALL THREE.
THIS IS A FIXABLE PROBLEM BUT
IT WON'T RESOLVE ITSELF.
PLEASE HELP US.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL
MEMBERS, YVETTE DINERS.
RECENTLY WHEN I SPOKE TO THE
COUNCIL ABOUT LACK OF
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
ORGANIZATIONS THAT GET CITY
FUNDING. TODAY I WANT TO BRING
ATTENTION TO TWO ORGANIZATIONS
THAT GET MONEY FROM THE CITY
AND DO AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH
FUNDING. THE FIRST ONE IS
FARMLAND WETLAND. THE FARM TO
PRESCHOOL PROGRAM THEY PROVIDE
OVER 200 GOOD FOOD BAGS TO
PRESCHOOLS IN THE AREA. IF FOR
EXAMPLE THIS WEEK GOOD FOOD
BAGS HAS ORGANIZED RAINBOW
SWISS CHARD AND PEARS. I
BROUGHT YOU SOME ORGANIC BEARS
FROM OKANAGA COUNTY. AND THE
NEAT THING ABOUT IT IS THE GOOD
FOOD BAGS ARE FUNDED BY THE
CITY WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY
COOL. THE OTHER ORGANIZATION IS
HOPE. AND THE MONEY THEY GOT
FROM THE CITY WAS USED TO
ORGANIZE A CHRISTMAS PARTY.
EVERYTHING WAS FREE FROM THE
FOOD, THE PICTURES OF BLACK
SANTA, THE ACTIVITIES AND EACH
AND EVERY ATTENDEE GOT A
CHRISTMAS PRESENT. THANK YOU
FOR THE FUNDING AND A SHOUT OUT
TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO
EXCELLENT WORK WITH THE MONEY
THEY GET FROM THE CITY. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. OH AND HERE ARE
YOUR PEARS. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT IS MONTE, FOLLOWING
MONTE WILL BE MARYANNE.
>>> HI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
CITY COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE
TIME TO HEAR OUR REMARKS. MY
NAME IS MONTE ANDERSON I
REPRESENT THE SEATTLE BUILDING
TRADES. WE AT SEATTLE BUILDING
TRADES HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE
COMMUNITY AROUND HOUSING IN
SOTO. I THINK A LOT OF YOU HAVE
BEEN BRIEFED ON IT. WE HAVE
LETTERS. I JUST WANT TO COME
HERE TO LET YOU ALL KNOW TO LET
YOU KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT YOU
AND THE DECISIONS AROUND THE
CITY. I THINK IT'S TIME TO
LISTEN TO CITIZENS THAT WANT
HOUSING AND NOT BE JUST KIND OF
PUSHED AROUND ON SOME KIND OF
IDEA OF THAT WE'RE NOT ACTING
IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PEOPLE
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING AND
PUBLIC SAFETY. I COMMEND THE
SPEAKERS BEFORE ME ABOUT
TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND
SARAH AND THE OTHERS WHO HAVE
WORKED. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MY
WORKERS TO COME DOWNTOWN AND
WORK. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT
WE SUPPORT YOU AND HOPEFULLY WE
CAN GET A HOLISTIC IDEA IN
TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND
HOUSING AND WHAT WORKS AND WHAT
DOESN'T WORK. AND STICK TO THE
FACTS HERE. I THINK WE'RE
GOING TO GO A LONG WAYS WITH
THIS. JUST WANTED TO LET YOU
KNOW WE'RE DOWN HERE TO
SUPPORT YOU. SUPPORT THE
COMMUNITY, SUPPORT SOME HOUSING
AND ALONG WITH IT PUBLIC
SAFETY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>> HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M
MARIANNA HIKE. I'M THE
PRESIDENT OF THE PROFESSIONAL
WORKERS. COUNCIL BILL 120-2133
TO THE ECONOMIC COMMITTEE FOR
FURTHER CONSIDERATION. THIS
ADDRESSES TWO OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR SEATTLE.
IF THIS MEASURE ISN'T ADVANCED
WE MISS FACING AN OPPORTUNITY
TO ADDRESS PUBLIC HOUSING AND
PROVIDE EDUCATION FOR OUR
RESIDENTS. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS
SPENT 15 YEARS WITH THE
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, PLAY A
KEY ROLE IN THIS PLAN, OFFERING
HANDS ON TRAINING. BY
SUPPORTING APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAMS. IT'S A GOOD
OPPORTUNITY THAT OUR WORK FORCE
GETS TO NOT ONLY GET TO WORK IN
THE CITY BUT AFFORD TO WORK IN
THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT
THEY LIVE IN. SO WITH THAT
BEING SAID I WANT TO THANK YOU
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY AND HOPE WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD. THANKS.
>>> NEXT WE HAVE JESSE
CERVANTES FOLLOWING BILLY AND
THEN GAIL.
>>> GOOD AFTERNOON SEATTLE CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M JESSE
CERVANTES. I'M WITH THE
REGIONAL CARPENTERS. I SEE HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS TO ADDRESS THE
HOUSING SHORTAGES THAT CONTINUE
TO AFFECT OUR CITY. I'M URGING
YOU TO PUSH TO THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR
FURTHER DISCUSSION. THIS
PROPOSAL IS A CRITICAL STEP IN
TACKLING HOUSING AND CREATING
CAREERS THAT PEOPLE CAN RELY
ON. THIS PROPOSAL ISN'T JUST
ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IT'S ABOUT
MAKING SURE SEATTLE HAS THE
TOOLS IT NEEDS TO GROW BOTH
ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY. WE
NEED TO INVEST IN OUR WORK
FORCE, CREATE PATH WAYS TO REAL
CAREERS AND ENSURE THAT THE
GROWTH OF OUR CITY BENEFIT
EVERYONE. I ASK YOU TO MOVE
THIS FORWARD.
>> WE HAVE BILLY.
>>> AFTERNOON COUNCIL PRESIDENT
AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS I
LISTENED TO COUNCIL MOORE
BEFORE THE MEETING, I HOPE YOU
ALL GOT TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH
FAMILY. A GOOD TIME TO GET AWAY
AND NOW WE'RE BACK AFTER. MY
NAME IS BILLY WEATHER. TODAY
SPEAKING TO COUNCIL BILL IRC.
STAY THE COURSE OF THE PROPOSED
REFERRAL AND MOVEMENT OF THIS
DISTRICT PROPOSAL. RATHER THAN
ANOTHER DELAY WHEN THE SUPPORT
FOR MAKERS AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA IS
CRITICAL. THIS PROPOSAL HAS
STRONG SUPPORT AND A BROAD
BASE, DIVERSE AND GROWING
COALITION AND STRONG SUPPORT
FROM THE BROADER SEATTLE
COMMUNITY. AS SHOWN IN THE
LETTER THAT WAS SENT OVER TO
EACH ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO HAVE COMMENTS
TODAY. THANK YOU.
>> HOWARD GAIL AND THEN
FOLLOWED BY ALEX ZIMMERMAN.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, HOWARD GAIL
DISTRICT 7. SO EARLIER TODAY,
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
LISTENED TO THE BILL ON CROWD
CONTROL. THE NEW BILL. IT
PASSED OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE
WITH A DIVIDED VOTE. AGAIN I
WANT TO RETURN TO THE FACTS
WHICH SEEM TO BE IGNORED. IN
2021 THIS, NOT THIS COUNCIL BUT
THE COUNCIL PASSED UNANIMOUSLY
WITH TWO CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS
THE ORIGINAL CROWD CONTROL
LEGISLATION. AND, WHAT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT HERE IS IF YOU
LOOK AT THAT BILL, THE FLOW OF
HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
IMPLEMENTED WAS A CITY ATTORNEY
SUBMITTED IT TO THE COURT TO
PUT THE COURT ON NOTICE. THE
SPD THEN WITHIN 60 DAYS CREATED
WAS SUPPOSED TO CREATE POLICIES
TO COMPLY WITH THAT ORDNANCE
AND THEN THE COURT WAS SUPPOSED
TO APPROVE THOSE POLICIES. THAT
ENTIRE PROCESS WAS SHORT
CIRCUITED. AND THEN, HERE WE
ARE FOUR YEARS LATER GOING BACK
WITH 10 AMENDMENTS THAT ARE
CONFUSING. STILL INADEQUACY
TRYING TO ASSERT THE WILL OF
THE COUNTY AND PEOPLE FROM FOUR
YEARS AGO. THIS IS COMPLETELY
ILLEGITIMATE. LET ME POINT OUT,
KIND OF AN INDICATION OF HOW
FAR REMOVED FROM REALITY AS
COUNCIL IS, YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT STILL PERMITTING POLICE
TO THROW BLAST BALLS AND
DEBATING WHETHER IT SHOULD BE
UNDER HANDED, OVER UNDERRED, AT
A PERSON, NOT AT A PERSON. AWAY
FROM A CROWD. AGAIN I POINTED
THIS OUT. 13-YEAR-OLD STUDY
FROM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN
FLORIDA SHOWING THAT WITH THE
MOST ACCURATE CONFINED
CIRCUMSTANCE AND REPEATEDLY
THROWING EXACTLY THE BLAST
BALLS WE USE IN SEATTLE THEY
BROKE INTO 73 FRAGMENTS. THE
ACTUAL BLAST BALL ITSELF ENDED
UP FROM A MINIMUM OF 2 FEET,
FROM IT'S INTENDED TARGET TO
17 FEET. AGAIN THE WHOLE IDEA
THAT BLAST BALLS CAN EVEN BE
USED. THE ONLY REASON THEY
EXIST AND THE ONLY REASON THE
SPD WANTS THEM IS BECAUSE IT
HELPS ESCAPE RESPONSIBILITY.
THANK YOU.
>> ALEX SERMAN FOLLOWING ALEX
IS SARAH.
>> KYLE, MY DIRTY NAZI. MY NAME
IS ALEX SERMAN TRUMP SUPPORTER
FOR 10 YEARS. FROM BEGINNING
AND EACH MY ELECTION. YEAH. FOR
10 YEARS. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT
SOMETHING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
CRITICAL RIGHT NOW. ALL
INTERNET RIGHT NOW TALKING
ABOUT DEMOCRATS WHO ACTING LIKE
A MOB, LIKE VANDETTA. I LIVE
HERE 40 YEARS AND SPEAK IN
COUNCIL CHAMBERS 2,000 TIMES.
HERE. SEATTLE IS PROBABLY
NUMBER ONE CITY IN AMERICA.
PROBABLY DIFFERENT FROM 35,000
LETTERS WE HAVE. SO MY QUESTION
RIGHT NOW TO YOU, AND I SPOKE
TO YOU MANY TIMES BUT MY
QUESTION RIGHT NOW ABOUT THIS
700,000 WHO LIVE, NEVER SUPPORT
VERY SIMPLE POINT.10IN
SEATTLE LIVE FREE LIKE SUPPOSED
TO BE FROM DEFINITION. LIKE
TRUMP ASKS FOR EXAMPLE. YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN. AND MORE
REPUBLICAN. I'M NOT
REPUBLICAN, NO. SO MY
PROPOSITION AND I TALK ABOUT
YOU FOR MANY YEARS. 10 YEARS
PROBABLY, OPEN BETTER ROOM IN
CITY HALL, SO PEOPLE CAN GO AND
SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES WITHOUT
CONTROLLING OF COUNCIL MOB
VANDETTA LIKE YOU. YOU'RE
DOING THIS FOR MANY YEARS. THIS
IS 7 UNDER PLUS THOUSAND,
THEY'RE SCARED EVER SUPPORT
THIS IDEA. THE MENTALITY LOOKS
AT THEM LIKE A GERMAN NAZI DID
THE GERMAN. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS
MEANS. PEOPLE SCARED. THEY'RE
NORMAL PEOPLE. VIVA TRUMP, VIVA
NEW AMERICA AND THE REVOLUTION.
>> LAST PERSON SPEAKER IS
SARAH.
>> HELLO EVERYBODY. I JUST
WANTED TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING
LATE. TRAFFIC WAS BAD BUT I
STILL WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT
TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. ON
BEHALF OF THE, I WANT TO EXTEND
MY GRATITUDE TO THE CITY OF
SEATTLE FOR THIS PROCLAMATION
DURING HUMAN TRAFFICKING
AWARENESS MONTH. AS A VICTIM OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND DIRECTOR
OF SURVIVOR SERVICES THIS MEANS
SO MUCH TO ME PERSONALLY AND TO
OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITY. SINCE
WE BEGAN OUR WORK IN JULY, WE
HAVE HAD THE HONOR OF SERVING
42 SURVIVORS. A NUMBER THAT
CONTINUES TO GROW. I'M
INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THE, WORK
WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED ALONGSIDE
THE CITY COUNCIL CREATING
INTENTIONAL PATHS FOR
SUPPORTING SURVIVORS AND
HOLDING TRAFFICKERS AND BUYERS
ACCOUNTABLE. THIS WORK IS NOT
JUST TRANSFER MADE FOR MY
COMMUNITY BUT IT IS ALSO DEEPLY
HEALING FOR ME. I WAS TURNED
OUT ON AURORA AND THIS WORK
GIVES ME HOPE THAT THE PAIN
I'VE ENDURED WAS NOT IN VAIN.
I CANNOT USE MY EXPERIENCES TO
UPLIFT AND HELP THE WOMAN I
SERVE EVERY DAY. THE MORE WE
LOVE IS COMMITTED TO THIS WORK.
AND IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL. WE
BELIEVE IN RADICAL, TRAUMA
INFORMED AND INTENTIONAL CARE.
AND RESOURCES AND WE ALL, AND
WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR
WHAT IS RIGHT AND FOR WHAT
SURVIVORS DESERVE. TO THE CITY
COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR
LISTENING TO THE VOICES OF
SURVIVORS AND SHOWING UP DAILY
FOR THE MOST MARGINALIZED AND
VULNERABLE PEOPLE. YOUR
PARTNERSHIP AND DEDICATION
INSPIRE ME AND THE MORE WE LOVE
TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD. AND I
JUST WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, YOU GUYS.
>> WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO REMOTE
SPEAKERS. A REMINDER TO OUR
REMOTE SPEAKERS. PLEASE PRESS
STAR SIX AFTER YOU HEAR THE
MESSAGE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN
UNMUTED. OUR FIRST REMOTE
SPEAKER IS AMY HAGOPIAN
FOLLOWED BY GEORGIA SLEETH. GO
AHEAD AMY.
>> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME.
>> YES.
>> HELLO. THIS IS AMY HAGOPIAN
I LIVE IN DISTRICT 3. I'M A
PROFESSOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON
OUR SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL. I'M
HERE TODAY TO CALL YOUR
ATTENTION TO THE WORK THE
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON SCHOOL
OF PUBLIC HEALTH DID IN 2021 TO
DOCUMENT THE PUBLIC HEALTH
CONSEQUENCES OF THE 2020 FIRES
IN SEATTLE. WE GATHERED THE
COURT DOCUMENTS THAT WERE
SUBMITTED ON THE LAWSUIT ON
BEHALF OF PLAINTIFFS AND
CATEGORIZED THE INJURIES CAUSED
BY TYPE OF WEAPONS USED. I SENT
YOU BOTH AN E-MAIL ABOUT THE
WEBSITE FOR THIS. WHEN YOU GO
TO THE WEBSITE YOU WILL SEE THE
WEBINAR WE REPORTED OF OUR
PUBLIC FORUM ON THE 2020 POLICE
VIOLENCE. WITH PUBLIC HEALTH
LAW SCHOOL AND SEVERAL EXPERTS.
MY OWN GRANDCHILDREN CAME WITH
ME TO THE VERY FIRST DOWNTOWN
PROTEST AT THE END OF MAY IN
2020. AS SOON AS WE ARRIVED,
THE FLASH ROUNDS WERE
UNLEASHED. WITH CHILDREN
CLEARLY PRESENT AND ONE OF
THESE WAS HARMED SERIOUSLY. AS
A RESIDENT OF THE CENTRAL
DISTRICT, I LIVE JUST A FEW
BLOCKS FROM THE EAST PRECINCT.
I PARTICIPATED IN THE PROTEST
WITH TEAR GAS AND WAS PUSHED
AND SHOVED BY POLICE. A FORMER
STUDENT WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED
AND WAS AMONG THE PLAINTIFFS
WHO SPLIT THE $10 MILLION
SETTLEMENT THE CITY HAD TO PAY
OUT TO END THE LAWSUIT. I ALSO
HAVE TO REFER YOU TO THE
PREVENTION JOURNAL JUST
PUBLISHED LAST WEEK BY MY
COLLEAGUES. PUBLIC HEALTH WOULD
NOT BE SERVED BY ALLOWING
SEATTLE POLICE TO USE WEAPONS
THAT INJURED SO SEVERELY PEOPLE
IN 2020.
>> THANK YOU AMY. OUR NEXT
SPEAKER IS GEORGIA SLEETH.
FOLLOWING WILL BE JUDY
ACALADES. GO AHEAD GEORGIA.
GEORGIA YOU MAY NEED TO PRESS
STAR 6.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY.
>> YEAH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME
IS DR. GEORGIA SLEETH AND I'M
A PHYSICIAN ON INJURY
PREVENTION IN SEATTLE. AND I'M
ALSO CALLING IN REGARDING
COUNCIL BILL 12519 THAT WAS
DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS MORNING.
I AM CALLING TO REINFORCE.
EARLIER THIS MONTH MY RESEARCH
TEAM AND I PUBLISHED A STUDY ON
INJURY ON CAPITOL HILL. IN THE
JOURNEY OF INJURY PREVENTION.
THEY FOUND THAT NEARLY ONE IN
FOUR PATIENTS WHO PRESENTED TO
THE HOSPITAL HAD INJURY LEADING
TO SUFFERING. THAT DOES NOT
INCLUDE THOSE WHO TREATED THEIR
INJURIES AT HOME. MY REVIEW OF
THE GROWING LITERATURE ON LESS
LETHAL WEAPONS LIKE IRRITANTS
SHOW THAT THEY CAN LEAD TO
ACUTE INJURY. AS PHYSICIANS WE
SEE HOW THESE INJURIES AND
CHEMICAL EXPOSURE CAN
EXACERBATE UNDER GOING MEDICAL
CONDITIONS. BASED ON THESE
STUDIES AND RECENT HISTORY, I
HEAR THAT REINSTATING LESS
LETHAL WEAPONS WOULD BE A
DETRIMENT ON HEALTH. THANK YOU
SO MUCH.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JUDY
ALCAVEDAS. GO AHEAD JUDY.
>> HI MY NAME IS JUDY
ALCALEDAS, I LIVE IN D4. THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING. I
APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW IT'S A
LOT. I WANT TO BRING US BACK TO
THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY. WHEN
MEDIA OUTLETS ACROSS SUFFERED
THE DEATH OF J61. J61 IS SADLY
ANOTHER CANARY IN THE COAL
MINE. I URGE YOU TO FOLLOW THE
FEDERAL NOA SOUTHERN KILLER
WHALE. AS YOU ADD DENSITY IN
THE ONE SEATTLE PLAN. POOR
CHOICES SUCH AS SPRAWL AND
INCREASED HARD SCAPE WILL
INCREASE POLLUTION WITH NO
SPACE FOR THE FILTRATION
BENEFITS OF TREES ANY WHERE. WE
NEED LOT DENSITY, STACKED PLATS
AND SHARED WALLS. PLEASE LOOK
AT OTHER CITIES. PLEASE LOOK AT
PORTLAND, SHARED WALLS AND
SPECK PLATS HAVE EXISTED SINCE
THE BEGINNING OF HOUSING. IT'S
OKAY, AND PLEASE I ENCOURAGE
YOU TO PLEASE DO YOUR OWN
RESEARCH WITH THE ONE SEATTLE
PLAN. DON'T FROM PRESSURED TO
APPROVE THE ONE SEATTLE PLAN
WITHOUT CHANGES. PLEASE DO REAL
RESEARCH ON DENSITY AND URBAN
NATURE. AND HOW WE CAN CONTINUE
TO, TO HAVE OUR SEATTLE, OUR
SEATTLE ECOSYSTEM. IT REALLY IS
IN YOUR HANDS. THESE ARE BIG
CHANGES. THEY ARE IN YOUR HANDS
AND WE CAN DO SO MUCH BETTER
WITH DENSITY. PLEASE DO
RESEARCH AND I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, BUY.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS ALBERTO ALVAREZ. GO AHEAD
ALBERTO.
>> FIRST OFF, DRIVERS ARE
PAINTING RENT AND COVERING GAS
EXPENSES IS MANAGEABLE, NO? WE
PULL THE WEIGHT OF ORDERS
ACROSS THIS ENTIRE CITY. FROM
BALLARD TO CHINA TOWN. FROM
CHINA TOWN TO SOUTH RAINIER,
FROM LAKE CITY TO QUEEN ANNE
AND QUEEN ANNE FROM WEST
SEATTLE. WE CONNECT ALL
CUSTOMERS IN THE CITY ACROSS
ALL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SMALL
BUSINESSES. WE ARE THERE 24
HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK,
THROUGH THE COLDEST WINTERS,
THROUGH THE POWER OUTAGES AND
NOW THE RETURN TO OFFICE
TRAFFIC. WE ARE MOTIVATED AND
HARD WORKING. AND ALWAYS READY
TO DEFEND OUR RIGHTS AND WAGES.
SECOND POINT, KETTLE AND NELSON
BOTH A DISAPPOINTMENT ON THIS
COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA,
PLEASE IMPROVE YOUR STANCE WHEN
IT COMES TO PUBLIC HARM CAUSED
BY POLICE OVERREACTION. AT A
TIME WHEN THE LGBTQ AND
IMMIGRANT FAMILIES WILL FACE
HARDSHIPS THAT KETTLE AND
NELSON ARE BLIND AND WILLFULLY
IGNORANT TO. PRACTICAL AND
MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AMENDMENTS
SUBMITTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
MOORE AND COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK
WERE VOTED DOWN. KETTLE AND
MOORE ARE NOT TAKING INTO
ACCOUNT THE REAL DANGEROUS
AFFECTS THEIR DECISIONS ON THIS
COUNCIL WILL HAVE, SIDE NOTE,
NELSON YOUR POWER GRAB OF
MAKING EVERY PRIORITY AND ISSUE
EXCLUSIVE TO YOUR OWN ECONOMY
IS ON THE NOTICE. THE SOONER
YOU ARE VOTED OUT, THE BETTER.
THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.
>> OUR LAST SPEAKER IS DAVID
HAYNES. GO AHEAD DAVID AND
PLEASE REMEMBER TO PRESS, OH
YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT DAVID HAYNES. STOP
THE SEXPLOITATION OF STATION 2.
BEGAN PREDATORRIZING. YOU WILL
TEAR DOWN THOSE SLUM HOTELS
THAT WERE USED FOR IT AND HAVE
THE GOVERNOR DEPLOY ARMY CORP.
OF ENGINEERS TO BILL THE
FOUNDATION AND THE NATIONAL
GUARD LABOR TO BUILD A ROBUST
HOUSING FOR SHELTER. MAKESHIFT
LIKE DRUG TREATMENT AND LIKE
LOW SECURITY FACILITIES.
INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IT FOR
ANOTHER YEAR AND DOING NOTHING,
OTHER THAN ANOTHER PROCLAMATION
TO MESSAGE THE SIGNALING. ALL
WHILE WAITING ON AND HAVING TO
CANCEL BECAUSE THE OFFICE OF
HOUSING IS SOME WHAT RACIST AND
NOT EXACTLY QUALIFIED AND
TRUSTWORTHY ENOUGH. AND, THE
VICE CHAIR OF THE LAND USE
COMMITTEE WHO DOESN'T REALLY
TAKE, WHY DO YOU TAKE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE COMP
PLAN. AND WHY IS IT THAT THE
BUDGET CHAIR WHO HELPED PASS
ALL THESE INSTEAD OF SHIFTING
THE PARADIGM CREATING ON THESE
ALREADY GOT EXACERBATED THROUGH
THE PUBLIC SAFETY, HOMELESS
CRISIS. WHY DOES HE GET TO
CANCEL ANOTHER COMMITTEE
MEETINGS AS IF THERE'S MORE
IMPORTANT BUSINESS DO OUTSIDE
OF SEATTLE. AS IF, CITY HALL IS
GOING VIOLENT TOWARD PROTESTERS
AS THEY FAVOR THE COPS AND
FASCISTS AFTER FOUR DIRECTIVES
TO START THROWING BLAST BALLS
AWAY FROM PEOPLE CAUSING
TROUBLE AND LURE INNOCENT
PEOPLE FROM THE SIDE AS IF THEY
CARE SO MUCH THEY WIND UP
HITTING THE WRONG PEOPLE. WHY
ARE YOU PURPOSEFULLY ALLOWING
THE SAME ILL TRAINED COPS TO
EXEMPT LOW LEVEL DRUG DEALERS
FROM AIR. WHY DO YOU KEEP
ALLOWING OPEN AIR DRUG MARKETS.
>> THAT WAS OUR LAST REMOTE
SPEAKER.
>> OKAY, WE'VE REACHED THE END
OF OUR ALLOTTED TIME FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR TODAY. THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON. I MOVE TO
ADOPT THE INTRODUCTION AND
REFERRAL CALENDAR. IS THERE A
SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO THE REFERRAL
CALENDAR.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> I MOVE THE ITEM 2 ON THE
FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
COMMITTEE TO THE SELECT
COMMITTEE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN.
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO AMEND THE
INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL
CALENDAR BY CHANGING THE
REFERRAL OF THE COUNCIL BY
120933 FROM THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO THE
SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. GO AHEAD
YOU MAY SPEAK TO YOUR REQUEST.
>> THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES FIRST
I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE
BECAUSE YESTERDAY I WAS NOT AS
COMPOSED AS I WOULD LIKE TO BE.
I WAS SIMPLY JUST CAUGHT OFF
GUARD AND A BIT SURPRISED. I'M
RAISING THIS AMENDMENT TODAY
NOT TO CRITIQUE THE SUBSTANCE
OF THE BILL BUT TO PROTECT THE
COUNCIL'S PROCESS. AND THIS
AMENDMENT DOES KEEP THE BILL
MOVING. I WON'T TAKE UP THE
CONTENTS OF THE BILL TODAY
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS ISSUE
DESERVES ITS TIME IN COUNCIL.
THE SPONSOR DESERVES THE TIME
AND COMMITTEE TO PUT THEIR
PROPOSAL FORWARD AND TO HAVE A
ROBUST CONVERSATION. ABOUT THE
PROPOSED POLICY. SORRY. MY
COMMENTS TODAY ARE STRICTLY
FOCUSED ON THE PROCESS. WE HAVE
TWO COMMITTEES THAT DEAL WITH
LAND USE ISSUES LIKE THE ONE
DETAILED IN THE, THIS BILL IS
ABOUT. WE HAVE THE LAND USE
COMMITTEE AND THE SELECT
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE.
IT'S CLEAR THIS LEGISLATION
SHOULD BE GOING TO ONE OF THEM.
YESTERDAY WHEN WAS CAUGHT OFF
GUARD AND SURPRISED AND WHEN
I'M LOOKING AT OUR CALENDAR,
THE LAND USE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN
REPLACED BY THE SELECT
COMPREHENSIVE LAND COMMITTEE ON
MOST OF ITS STANDING PLAN.
THAT'S WHY I CHOSE THE LAND
COMMITTEE TO KEEP THE BILL
MOVING RATHER THAN TO DELAY IT.
MY POSITION IS ON WHO IS ON THE
COMMITTEE. I DON'T BELIEVE
IT'S ON THE COUNCIL'S BEST
INTEREST TO VIOLATE THAT
AGREEMENT. PUBLIC SAFETY
ISSUES, HOUSING ISSUES BELONG
TO HOUSING AND HUMAN SERVICES
COMMITTEE, TRANSPORTATION
ISSUES BELONG IN THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. AND
THIS IS CLEARLY A LAND USE
ISSUE. THIS CLEARLY SHOULD GO
TO ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES.
WHEN WE CIRCUMVENT OUR
COMMITTEE, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR
OUR PROCESS. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR
OUR DISCOURSE, IT'S BAD FOR
OUR INSTITUTION AND PART OF HOW
I WAS CAUGHT OFF GUARD
YESTERDAY IS THE RIC WAS NOT
PUBLISHED UNTIL NEARLY THE END
OF OUR COUNCIL BRIEFING
MEETING. I WAS JUST CAUGHT OUT
OF GUARD. FOR THAT REASON, I AM
MOVING TO AMEND THE REFERRAL
CALENDAR OF THIS LEGISLATION
FROM THE GOVERNANCE TO THE
SELECT COMMITTEE. A COMMITTEE
THAT EVERYONE SITS ON. A
COMMITTEE THAT IS DESIGNED TO
HAVE OVERSIGHT ON THE ISSUES
RAISED ON THE LEGISLATION AND
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
LEGISLATION HAS ITS DAY IN
COMMITTEE. AND HAS A ROBUST
POLICY CONVERSATIONS. THANK
YOU.
>> COLLEAGUES I ASK THAT YOU,
THAT YOU OPPOSE THE REQUEST,
THE MOVEMENT TO MOVE THE
LEGISLATION TO THE LAND USE
COMMITTEE OR THE SELECT
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE,
BECAUSE THIS IS I REFERRED THIS
TO THE GOVERNANCE AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE BECAUSE
THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
BILL WITH A LAND USE ELEMENT. I
WAS MOTIVATED BY THIS, THIS
LEGISLATION WHICH I HAVE BEEN
AWARE OF AND IN SUPPORT OF FOR
OVER A YEAR. I MET IT DURING
THE DISCUSSIONS OF THE
INDUSTRIAL LANDS LEGISLATION
AND MONTE OF THE BUILDING AND
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL WAS
WALKED THE HALL IN 2023 AND
WALKED THE HALL LAST YEAR AS
WELL. TALKING TO COUNCIL
MEMBERS ABOUT THE BENEFITS
HERE. THERE IS A LAND USE
ELEMENT BUT WHAT IS AS I SAID
MOTIVATING ME IS THE FACT THAT,
SMALL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL
BUSINESSES NEED MORE SPACE IN
SEATTLE. AND IF YOU, IF THIS
IS, LAST YEAR I WAS IN
CONVERSATION WITH ANDREA PORTER
WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF SEATTLE MADE AND LEARNED
THAT 2 TO 3 MAKERS ARE LEAVING
SEATTLE EVERY MONTH OR SO.
BECAUSE SEATTLE IS VERY
EXPENSIVE AND THERE ARE SOME
USE AND RESTRICTIONS FOR
CERTAIN BUSINESSES. WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT MAKERS BUSINESSES
I'M TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING
FROM A COFFEE ROASTER TO A
ROBOT MANUFACTURER. PLACES
WHERE THINGS ARE MADE AND SOLD.
THOSE SPACES ARE HARD TO FIND.
THAT'S WHY I'M INTERESTED IN
THIS LEGISLATION AND THE WAY TO
HAVE THOSE, THOSE THE
CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE SPACES IS
REALLY ONLY FEASIBLE IF
THERE'S SOMETHING ON TOP.
BECAUSE NOBODY IS GOING TO GO
OUT AND BUILD A SMALL
AFFORDABLE COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR
THAT KIND OF USE. AND SO, THERE
IS A LAND USE COMPONENT BECAUSE
THIS LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW
HOUSING IN THE STADIUM DISTRICT
IN THE UI ZONE WHICH THEN
INTRODUCES ANOTHER BENEFIT
WHICH DOES REQUIRE THAT THE
HOUSING IN THAT ZONE BE
AFFORDABLE OR WORK FORCE HAS IT
FROM 60 TO 90% AMI. S THAT IS
WHY WE RECEIVED A LETTER WITH A
LOT OF PRETTY L OGOS AND BROAD
COALITION SUPPORT. I DON'T
WANT TO GO INTO THE BENEFITS OF
THE LEGISLATION EITHER. BECAUSE
IT IS A LAND USE LEGISLATION SO
THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME TO
GO THROUGH ALL THE MULTIPLE
BENEFITS THAT OF THIS
LEGISLATION. HOWEVER, THE FACT
REMAINS THAT, THAT THE FACT,
THE ALLOWANCE OF HOUSING DOES
THEN DEGENERATE SUPPORT FROM
OUR HOUSING PROVIDERS AND THE
FACT THAT THE AREA THAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT HAS LONG BEEN A
PLACE WHERE THERE'S SOME
SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES.
THAT IS ALSO WHY THE
NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO THIS
AREA SIGNED IN SUPPORT OF THIS
LEGISLATION. I'M SPEAKING IN,
SPECIFICALLY TOWARD THE PIONEER
SQUARE AREA AND THE CHINA TOWN
INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. SO THEY
SIGNED ON. SO BUT IT COMES BACK
DOWN TO FOR ME, THE FACT THAT
IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO
FIND A PLACE WHERE LIGHT
MANUFACTURING BUSINESSES CAN
MAKE THEIR PRODUCTS AND THEN
SELL THEM. AND SO, THAT IS THE
ULTIMATE REASON WHY I, THIS IS
AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
LEGISLATION AND WHY IT WAS
REFERRED TO MY COMMITTEE. NOW
THE FACT REMAINS YOU MADE A
GOOD POINT COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS THAT WE ALL HAVE
COMMITTEES AND WE'RE ALL
SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH CERTAIN
LEGISLATIONS. IT'S SOMETIMES
VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY THIS IS
ONLY LAND USE OR ONLY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT OR ONLY PARKS ETC.
THAT IS WHY THERE'S TIME FOR
THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO REVIEW
THE LEGISLATION IN
COUNCILLATION WITH CENTRAL
STAFF. THERE'S CONVERSATION
WHERE IT SHOULD GO, WHICH
COMMITTEE, ETC. SO THINGS ARE
NOT ALWAYS CUT AND DRY. BECAUSE
LEGISLATION CAN SOMETIMES, IT
MAKES SENSE TO, IT WOULD MAKE
SENSE TO PUT A PIECE OF
LEGISLATION IN A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. LAST IN
2002 I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR
EXAMPLE. THERE WAS LEGISLATION
THAT WAS, THAT WAS REFERRED TO
THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND HUMAN
SERVICES COMMITTEE THAT HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC
SAFETY AND HUMAN SERVICES BUT
BECAUSE THAT WAS LEGISLATION
THAT THE, THAT THE CHAIR OF
THAT COMMITTEE WAS INTERESTED
IN HAVING. SO THESE, THE
REFERRAL TO A PARTICULAR
COMMITTEE IS FLEXIBLE AND SO, I
AS PRESIDENT TOOK THE
PREROGATIVE TO PUT IT IN MY
COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT WAS
POSSIBLE TO BRING IT TO, TO MY
COLLEAGUES AND ALSO TO FULL
COUNCIL SOONER THAN IT COULD
POSSIBLY IN THE SELECT LAND USE
COMMITTEE. THE SELECT
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE IS
YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE ONLY
HAVE DATES THROUGH FEBRUARY
5th. AND THAT IS BECAUSE SOME
OF THE NUANCES OF THE
LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO BE
COMING BEFORE US AND ALSO THE
FACT THAT THERE'S SOME TYING
UP ON LOSE ENDS THAT HAVE TO BE
DONE ON THE EIS. AND SO IT'S
NOT REALLY CLEAR WHEN THE, WHEN
THE VOTES COULD HAPPEN ON THIS
LEGISLATION OR OTHER
LEGISLATION THAT COULD POSSIBLY
HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
NEXUS. AND SO, AGAIN WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES
THAT NEED SPACE TO THRIVE AND
GROW. AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES
THAT SIGNED ON IN SUPPORT OF
THIS LEGISLATION IN 2023 ARE
STILL REALLY INTERESTED IN
HAVING THIS BILL GO FORWARD.
THERE ALSO IS OBVIOUSLY
BECAUSE, BASED ON PUBLIC
COMMENT, THERE IS A STRONG
LABOR COMPONENT HERE, WE DON'T
NEED TO GO INTO ALL OF THE
BENEFITS FOR THIS, BUT THIS HAS
BEEN A VISION TO HAVE A VERY,
VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF HOUSING IN
THE STADIUM DISTRICT FOR A VERY
LONG TIME. IT WAS PART OF THE
PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE THAT
ACCOMPANIED THE 2023 INDUSTRIAL
LANDS LEGISLATION AND SO, IT'S
TAKING A LONG TIME AND, IT
WOULD BE AND WHO KNOWS WHEN IT
WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE
FOR A VOTE IF IT WERE TO GO TO
THE SELECT COMP PLAN COMMITTEE.
AND SO, I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO
ALLOW IT TO STAY IN THE
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
AND IT WILL PROBABLY BE BEFORE
US I BELIEVE THAT THE SECOND
COMMITTEE VOTE WILL, THE SECOND
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION WILL BE IN
EARLY OR LATE FEBRUARY IN OR
EARLY MARCH, AND EVERYBODY WILL
HAVE A CHANCE TO READ AND
UNDERSTAND THE MANY BENEFITS OF
WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THE
LEGISLATION. IN ADDITION TO
PROVIDING MORE SPACE FOR SMALL
LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES
THAT ARE ALSO CALLED MAKERS
BUSINESSES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> YES. I AM LOOKING AT MY
SCREEN. COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO SPEAK ON
THIS ISSUE AS THE VICE CHAIR OF
THE GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY
COMMITTEE AND ASK FOR MY
COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS
MOTION TO MOVE IT TO THE SELECT
COMMITTEE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN. I'VE OFTEN SAID HOW
IMPORTANT THE COMMITTEE WORK IS
IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
BUT IT GOES BEYOND THAT AND I
BELIEVE THE, THE SELECT
COMMITTEE ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
WHICH IS INHERENTING THE LAND
USE MISSION IS THE RIGHT PLACE
TO GO. AND FOR ONE, ALL NINE OF
US WILL BE THERE. AND I BELIEVE
FROM A GOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE
THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO
FORWARD WITH THIS TOPIC AND
THIS ISSUE. I WOULD ALSO SAY,
AS THE DIRECTOR, AS THE CHAIR
OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE,
THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS THAT
GO INTO PUBLIC SAFETY. I DO NOT
BELIEVE THIS LEGISLATION IS A
PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. SEPARATELY, I HAVE
THREE MAIN PRIORITIES STRATEGIC
PRIORITIES. FIRST IS PUBLIC
SAFETY. AS YOU KNOW IN 2024 WE
PASSED 11 MAJOR BILLS ON PUBLIC
SAFETY. AND WE'RE PRESSING ON
THAT. AND ALL THE OTHER PIECES
THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN
25. SECOND FOR ME IS I SAY THE
PORT. IT'S REALLY THE MARITIME
INDUSTRIAL ECONOMY AND HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS TO ENSURE THAT
WE HAVE A VIABLE PORT 100 YEARS
FROM NOW. THAT IS SO KEY.
BECAUSE AT ONE POINT WE HAD
RESOURCES, TIMBER. NEXT THING
WE'RE SUPPORTING PEOPLE GOING
TO ALASKA. AT ONE POINT IT WAS
AIRPLANES. AEROSPACE. NOW IT'S
TECH. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR
ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE IN 100
YEARS FROM NOW. SO IT'S KEY TO
ENSURE THE VIABILITY OF THE
PORT. AND BY THE WAY IT'S NOT
ONLY THE PORT OF SEATTLE. IT'S
THE PORT OF SEATTLE. KING
COUNTY, WASHINGTON STATE. I
OFTEN SAY IT'S NOT JUST FOR
SEATTLE FOR THE NEAR EAST.
BELLEVUE, THE TRI CITIES AND
SPOKANE. WE HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITY NOT TO
LOOK OUT JUST FOR OURSELVES,
BUT FOR THE REGION. FOR THE
STATE AND REALLY FOR A LARGE
PORTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND I RECOGNIZE OUR LABOR
BROTHERS ARE HERE AND I SUPPORT
THEM IN SO MANY WAYS BUT I ALSO
SAY WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK FOR
THE LABORERS WHO SPEAK THE
AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS. IN THE
MIDDLE -F EAST OF WASHINGTON
STATE. WHO'S GOING TO SUPPORT
THE LABOR IN MOSES LAKE THAT'S
LOOKING TO EXPORT SOME TYPE OF
PRODUCT. I'VE MET SOME OF
THESE PEOPLE AT THE PORT. MY
CALL IS, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL
OF THIS AND I BELIEVE THE
SELECT COMMITTEE ON
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE BEST
WAY TO DO IT. AGAIN COLLEAGUES
I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS
MOTION. THANK YOU.
>>> I JUST WANT TO RESPOND. I
SEE THERE ARE OTHER HANDS UP
AND I WILL CALL ON YOU ALSO.
BUT I WANT TO RESPOND. IF I
SAID THAT THIS WAS A PUBLIC
SAFETY, A PIECE OF PUBLIC
SAFETY LEGISLATION THAT IS NOT,
THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION. I
WAS INTENDING THAT IT HAD
PUBLIC SAFETY BENEFITS. BY
PROVIDING MORE LIFE ON THE
STREET ETC. COUNCIL MEMBER
RIVERA. THANK YOU COUNCIL
PRESIDENT. THANK YOU COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD. I'M COMPELLED BY
THE FACT THAT THIS PARTICULAR
PIECE OF LEGISLATION HAS A LOT
OF COMPONENTS AS WE'VE HEARD
FROM SOME OF YOU ALL TODAY.
IT'S GOT HOUSING IMPLICATIONS,
OBVIOUSLY THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT PIECE WHICH IS WHY
COUNCIL PRESIDENT YOU PROFFERED
IT. IT HAS THE LAND USE PIECE
OBVIOUSLY AND TRANSPORTATION. I
DO BELIEVE IT HAS A PUBLIC
SAFETY PIECE. NOT AS IN MAIN.
BUT IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS
WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO SUPPORT
DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PARTICULAR
PART OF THE CITY. I THINK IT'S
APPROPRIATE SINCE IT TOUCHES ON
SO MANY THINGS TO BRING IT
THROUGH COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S
COMMITTEE. AND WE WILL ALL HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT
IT. AND LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AND
VOTE ON IT IN THAT COMMITTEE.
AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS. I'M
FINE LETTING THIS LEGISLATION
SIT IN COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S
COMMITTEE, THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> THANK YOU MA'AM COUNCIL
PRESIDENT AND FOR STARTERS AND
FOR CLARITY, YOU KNOW AT THIS
VERY EARLY STAGE I'M NOT AT
ALL TAKING A POSITION ON THE
MERITS OF THE UNDERLYING
ISSUES, ANY OF THEM INVOLVED IN
THIS PROPOSED PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. I THINK THE
QUESTION BEFORE US IS MORE OF A
PROCEDURAL ONE. I WANT TO THANK
COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR PROPOSING
THIS. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS FOR
HELPING US THINK DIFFERENTLY
ABOUT THE CURRENT PATH. WE
SHOULD ALWAYS CHALLENGE YOU
KNOW, CHALLENGE ASSUMPTIONS AND
CHALLENGE EACH OTHER TO BE
BETTER. AND HAVE THESE, AND
HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND
SO, SO FOR ME, I'M PERSUADED
BY ELEMENTS OF ALL, EVERYTHING
I'VE HEARD SO FAR. FOR ME
TIMING TURNS OUT TO BE THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING OF THIS ALL. I
GENERALLY AGREE THAT, THIS I
DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EVER BE
BEHOLDEN TO, ONE COMMITTEE
VERSUS THE OTHER. LIKE THAT'S
TOO RIGID AND IT ERODES ANY
ROOM WHATSOEVER FOR FLEXIBILITY
AND WE NEED TO MOVE FAST AND
URGENTLY AND GO, GO, GO.
SOMETIMES THAT MEANS WE RUFFLE
SOME FEATHERS. ANY WAY. SO, BUT
I GENERALLY AGREE THAT, ALL
OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL. THE
TOPIC AND FOCUS AND THRUST OF
THIS BILL IS BETTER SUITED FOR
THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE
COMP PLAN. AS A GENERAL
PROPOSITION. MY ONLY CONCERN
WITH THAT IS, MY ONLY POTENTIAL
CONCERN FOR THAT IS, I DON'T
KNOW IF THERE'S TIME. I DON'T
KNOW IF THERE'S TIME FOR US TO
ADEQUATELY AND THOUGHTFULLY
GIVE THIS THE TIME, ATTENTION
AND CONSIDERATION INCLUDING
ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT
THIS DESERVES. I HAD A REALLY
PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH THE
SELECT COMMITTEE CHAIR. CHAIR
HOLLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU FOR
BEING PROACTIVE AND REACHING
OUT TO ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY.
I HEARD A LOT OF EXCELLENT
THINGS AND A LOT OF THOUGHT
BEING PUT INTO THIS WHOLE
PROCESS. AND YOU KNOW, MY
IMPRESSION IS WE ARE UNDER VERY
TIGHT TIME LINE IN TRYING TO
SQUEEZE, SHOE HORN THIS AND TO,
AND TO THAT. AND TO A THREE
PHASE COMP PLAN PROCESS. I
DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS WOULD GO
AND IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY
ACCOMMODATE IT. LIKE I
GENERALLY AGREE ON THE ONE HAND
THAT THAT WOULD BE A BETTER
BODY. BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IN
THE ABSENCE OF POTENTIALLY LAND
USE COMMITTEE, I JUST DON'T
KNOW IF THERE'S TIME TO DO IT.
AND I ALSO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE
AMENDMENT AUTHORS PREROGATIVE
TO PROPOSE LEGISLATION AT ANY
TIME THEY SEE FIT. EVEN IF I
STRONGLY DISAGREE. WHY? BECAUSE
THEY ARE DIRECTLY ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THE IMPACT AND RESULT AND
THAT MIGHT MEAN, BECAUSE
THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF THINGS
THAT GO INTO AND FACTOR INTO,
OUR TIMING FOR LAUNCHING A
PARTICULAR STRATEGIC INITIATIVE
OR NOT AND WHEN AND HOW TO DO
IT. IT'S NOT JUST, LIKE YOU
JUST SIT BEHIND THE SCENES AND
COOK UP A POLICY AND YOU'RE
GOING TO LAUNCH IT AND IT WILL
PREVAIL ON THE MERITS. IT'S
NOT HOW THIS WORKS. SO I AM
STRONGLY TO THE AMENDMENTS AND
AUTHORS ON THEIR PREFERRED
TIMING. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT
MIGHT MEAN WE RUFFLE SOME
FEATHERS OF OUR COLLEAGUES. IT
MIGHT MEAN DIFFERENT PEOPLE
THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE
BEST TIMING. THE OPTIMAL TIMING
FOR THAT. AND IT MIGHT MEAN WE
POTENTIALLY LOSE SUPPORT FOR
OUR EFFORT. WE ARE ALL
RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT THIS IS
CLEARLY ONE OF YOURS. AND SO,
YOU KNOW, FOR THAT REASON I'M
DIFFERENTIAL, UNDERSTANDING
THAT DISRUPT SOME HARMONY HERE.
FOR THOSE REASONS I'M GOING TO
BE SUPPORTING KEEPING THE
CURRENT PATH. HAD WE HAD THE
CURRENT SHARE OR EXCUSE ME HAD
WE HAD THE CHAIR OF THE LAND
USE COMMITTEE, HERE I WOULD ASK
THEIR POSITION ON THIS BUT THAT
IS OBVIOUSLY A VACANT ROLE AT
THIS POINT. SO, YOU KNOW
HOPEFULLY WE'LL CLOSE THE LOOP
HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
WEEKS. BUT, BECAUSE THEIR
POSITION WOULD BE, ANOTHER DATA
POINT NOT NECESSARILY A
DISPOSITIVE ONE BUT A DATA
POINT AT LEAST FOR MY
PERSONALLY CONSIDERATION. THAT
SAID, ALL THIS GOT SPRUNG UP
VERY QUICKLY. I WAS WITH MANY
OF YOU ALL IN A FOUR PLUS HOUR
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING
THEN GOT OUT OF THAT. AND YOU
KNOW BACK TO BACK TO THIS. AND
IN BETWEEN TIME HAD SOME VERY
BRIEF CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME
FOLKS INCLUDING A HANDFUL OF
FOLKS IN LABOR AND AS I
UNDERSTAND IT, JUST AGAIN, ALL
CAME QUICKLY. AS I UNDERSTAND
IT SO FOLKS IN THE BUILDING
TRADES HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE
PAST CHAIR. COUNCIL MEMBER
MORALES ON THE LAND USE. WHO
SEEMS TO THINK THE CURRENT PATH
IS THE BEST ONE. THAT'S THE
CRAZY OF THE TELEPHONE GAME.
BUT IF TRUE IT IS A NICE CHERRY
ON TOP. STILL I DO AGREE AND
THANK, AND THEY ARE
ACCOUNTABLE. I'M STRONGLY
DIFFERNTIAL TO THE LEGISLATIVE
AUTHOR ON THEIR PREFERRED
TIMING AND IF THIS IS, AND WE
CAN'T GUARANTEE A RESPECT OF
THAT TIMING AT THE SELECT
COMMITTEE LEVEL. FOR THAT
REASON I'M GOING TO BE
SUPPORTING THE CURRENT PATH,
THANK YOU.
>> WOW I DON'T THINK THE IRC
HAS EVER HAD THIS KIND OF
CONVERSATION. COUNCIL MEMBER
RINCK.
>> SO I WANT TO SPEAK TO AGAIN
THE MATTER OF PROCESS AS
OPPOSED TO POLICY. BECAUSE I DO
THINK EVEN JUST THE DISCUSSION
HERE TODAY REALLY SPEAKS TO THE
COMPLEXITIES OF THE POLICY
MATTER AT HAND. BUT I DO WANT
TO CIRCLE TO PROCESS. BECAUSE
WE ESTABLISH AND FORM THESE
COMMITTEES FOR A REASON. WE
TAKE THESE ON AS OUR
RESPONSIBILITIES AND WE SPEND
THE EXTRA TIME TO WORK
ALONGSIDE THE APPROPRIATE
DEPARTMENTS AND GO THROUGH
EXTRA TRAININGS. AND I WILL
SPEAK WITH THE HEAD OF BEING
SOMEONE WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE
LAND USE COMMITTEE. AND GOING
THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL EXTRA
TRAININGS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND
THINGS LIKE QUASI JUDICIAL
DECISION MAKING. I KNOW IN THAT
ROLE AND BEING PART OF THE LAND
USE COMMITTEE I TAKE IT AS A
HUGE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE
THINKING ABOUT LAND USE. NOW,
THIS IS A PARTICULARLY SPECIAL
YEAR BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE
CONSIDERING LAND USE AS A PART
OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUFF
BUT WHEN I THINK TO AND LOOK TO
OTHER REPRESENTATIVE AREAS I
KNOW AND SEEN THIS REPORT ON
COUNCIL WHERE WE TRY TO LOOK AT
COUNCIL MEMBER MATTERS. I KNOW
COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA I'VE GONE
TO YOU ON THE ROLE OF THE
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
WORKING ALONGSIDE EACH OF THE
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE IN DIFFERENCE TO
THEIR ROLE. AND SO, I WOULD
SAY, I WORRY ABOUT ESPECIALLY
GIVEN THIS PARTICULAR
LEGISLATION AND THE SPECIFICS
AROUND THINGS LIKE LAND USE. AS
I UNDERSTAND THIS LEGISLATION,
IT IS A ZONING CHANGE WHICH IS
PRETTY SQUARELY A LAND USE
ACTION. I JUST HAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENCE HERE
ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S SUCH A
CLEAR LINE AROUND WHAT THIS
LEGISLATION WOULD DO. AND WOULD
SAY THAT, AS A LAND USE
COMMITTEE MEMBER, I WOULD JUST
FEEL A BIT THAT MY ROLE AS A
PART OF THAT BODY FEELS A BIT
DISEMPOWERED KNOWING I WOULD
NOT HAVE A COMMITTEE
RESPONSIBILITY WEIGHING IN ON
THIS MATTER. THAT CONCLUDES MY
COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
>> MR. STRAUSS GO AHEAD AND
I'LL HAVE THE LAST WORD
PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT ALL THE
COMMENTS YOU PROVIDED ABOUT THE
MERITS OF THE BILL AND THE
CONTENT OF THE BILL IS EXACTLY
WHY THIS BILL SHOULD HAVE ITS
DAY AT COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO
BE REALLY CLEAR THERE. IT WAS
SHARED THAT THERE'S AN
INTERSECTION BETWEEN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND LAND USE AND
COUNCIL PRESIDENT YOU SAID
YOURSELF THIS IS LAND USE
LEGISLATION. IN YOUR COMMENTS
JUST A MOMENT AGO. AND IS
DESCRIBED IN THAT MANNER BY THE
REQUIREMENT OF THE PUBLIC, THE
30 DAY REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS. I'M
GOING TO READ FROM THE BILL FOR
A MOMENT HERE. AN ORDNANCE
RELATING TO LAND USE AND
ZONING. AMENDING SECTION 23 OF
OUR CODE. THAT'S REALLY JUST
THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING.
THIS IS, THE ORDNANCE ITSELF
SAYS AN ORDNANCE RELAYING TO
LAND USE AND ZONING. LAST THING
I WILL SAY, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
POINT WELL TAKEN ABOUT THE
DATES NOT OFFICIALLY SET FOR
THE SELECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
COMMITTEE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT
I'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT MEMOS FROM CENTRAL
STAFF AND THE CHAIR STATING
DATES TO SAVE AND I ALSO NOTE
THAT IN YOUR ROLE COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, ALL YOU NEED TO DO
IS SEND A MEMO, ESTABLISHING
ADDITIONAL DATES THAT WOULD BE
CONSISTENT WITH THE DATES THAT
WERE ALL RESERVING RIGHT NOW. I
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE THE
DISCUSSION ON THIS. AND I URGE
YOUR SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS TO
THE SELECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
COMMITTEE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER.
>> THANK YOU. I GUESS WE'RE
ALL GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.
SO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE
COMMENTS OF COUNCIL MEMBER
SAKA, THE SORT OF PROS AND CONS
TO WEIGH HERE. I APPRECIATE THE
CONCERN ABOUT PROCEDURE FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. I GUESS
THOUGH THAT I WOULD SAY I THINK
WE CAN BECOME TOO TIED. I MEAN,
EVERY TWO YEARS I KNOW, WHEN WE
ALL STARTED THE COMMITTEE
ASSIGNMENTS WERE REDONE IN
TERMS OF WHAT COMMITTEES HAD
WHAT SUBJECT MATTER TO THEM.
SO, THEY ARE NOT IMMUTABLE.
THEY CHANGE WITH LEADERSHIP AND
WITH DIRECTIONS OF THE COUNCIL
I AS A MEMBER OF LAND USE, YOU
KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
LAND USE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO
REALLY BRING UP AND THAT WE'RE
NOT BEING ABLE TO BRING UP BOTH
BECAUSE OF THE VACANCY AND
BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE COMP
PLAN BEFORE US. WE HAVE AND
AGAIN, WE RAN INTO THIS ISSUE
WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH A
BUDGET WHEN WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT, YOU KNOW EDI MONEY AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY. IN
TERMS OF HOW DO WE SUPPORT
SMALL BUSINESSES OF COLOR. AND
HAVING TOO MANY SILOS AND
SAYING YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS
BECAUSE THAT'S, THEY'RE ALL
INTERCONNECTED. AND TO ME THE
THE BOTTOM LINE IS IS THIS BILL
GOING TO GET THE SAME PUBLIC
AND AIRING THAT ALLOWS US TO
FEEL THAT PWEF BEEN FULLY
BRIEFED AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE
HAVE TWO PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE
OF THE ISSUE THAT WILL BE IF IT
GOES, STAYS IN THE GOVERNANCE
COMMITTEE THAT HAVE POTENTIAL
POINTS OF USE. I FEEL VERY
CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S GOING
TO BE AN AIRING AND DISCUSSION
OF THE PROS AND CONS. IT'S
GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT DOES TOUCH ON ALL THESE
OTHER THINGS. AND SO I DON'T
SEE IT AS, FUNDAMENTAL,
FUNDAMENTAL CHALLENGE TO THE
INTEGRITY OF THE SYSTEM OR THE
INTEGRITY OF THE COMMITTEE
ASSIGNMENT PROCESS. SO FOR
THOSE REASONS, I AM GOING TO BE
SUPPORTING, OR WHATEVER, VOTING
AGAINST THE REQUEST. THANK YOU.
>> IS THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE, I
WILL, IS THERE ANOTHER, COUNCIL
MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. EXCUSE
ME.
>> GOING AFTER COUNCIL MEMBER,
FEELS LIKE GOING AFTER A
RULING. YOU ALWAYS HAVE VERY
THOUGHTFUL WORDS. COUNCIL
MEMBER MORRIS I JUST WANTED TO
THROW THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANK
YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AS WELL.
LOOK, THIS IS A LOT TO UNPACK.
WE HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE HAVE A VACANCY, WE HAVE
OTHER PRESSING MATTERS ON
COUNCIL. I KNOW IT'S A LOT.
I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE
CURRENT PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN
SET FORWARD. FOR THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. I
UNDERSTAND THERE ARE DIFFERENT
COMPONENTS TO THIS LEGISLATION
THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. I'M
LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING A DEEP
DIVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE
ARE. BUT I DO HAVE TO AGREE
WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE'S
COMMENTS REGARDING
UNDERSTANDING IS THIS GOING TO
GET THE LEVEL OF ATTENTION AND
FROM ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR
US. SO ANY WAY, I'M GOING TO
BE SUPPORTING FOR IT TO BE ON
ITS CURRENT PATH. AND JUST WANT
TO THANK EVERYONE. I THINK THIS
IS A HEALTHY DISCUSSION FOR ALL
OF US TO HAVE AS COUNCIL
MEMBERS EVEN IF WE AGREE TO
DISAGREE. I JUST WANT TO THANK
OUR COLLEAGUES FOR THE HEALTHY
DISCUSSIONS. SO THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, ARE WE DONE? WE HAVE
MORE HANDS. IT'S HARD FOR ME
TO TRACK WHO IS IN. SO WHO HAD
THEIR HAND UP FIRST?
>> YEAH. ME AND THEN ROB.
>> OKAY, BEFORE IF YOU DON'T
MIND. I DO WANT TO RESPOND TO
THE READING. COUNCIL BILL
120667 READS. RECRUITING OF
POLICES IN THE SEATTLE. POLICE
DEPARTMENTS TRANSFERRING
POSITION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
HUMAN RESOURCES TO SPD ETC.
WHERE WAS THAT LEGISLATION
HEARD? IN MY COMMITTEE, WHY?
BECAUSE IT HAD TO DO WITH
PERFECTING THE PROCESSES BY
WHICH WE HIRE OFFICERS BECAUSE
WE WERE TRYING TO, MAKE SURE WE
COULD, WE COULD BUILD BACK THE
NUMBERS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP
OUR CITY SAFE. SO WHEN SO
THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF
MANY PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT
THIS COUNCIL HAS VOTED ON
COMMITTEES THAT PERHAPS MAY NOT
BE THE OBVIOUS DESTINATION FOR
A PARTICULAR PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. OKAY, SO GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO MY
EARLIER COMMENTS AND I AGREE
WITH SO MANY COMMENTS UP HERE.
I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE ALL
RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PIECES OF
LEGISLATION. REGARDLESS IF IT
GOES TO COMMITTEE OR FULL
COUNCIL OR SELECT COMMITTEES.
IN THIS CASE THE SELECT
COMMITTEE IS ALL OF US. YOUR
COMMITTEE, GOVERNANCE, SORRY,
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IT
DOESN'T MATTER WHERE IT GOES.
WE ALL HAVE TO LEARN ABOUT
THESE ISSUES AND VOTE ON THESE
ISSUES. AND THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING
FORWARD AS COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA
SAID EARLIER AS YOU ARE THE
SPONSOR OF THE LEGISLATION, AND
GIVEN THE DIVISION OF LABOR
HERE WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE
COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO BEGIN
WITH. OR NOT MEETINGS BUT
COMMITTEES TO BEGIN WITH IS TO
JUST DIVIDE THE WORK. IT MAKES,
I AM FINE FOR IT TO GO THROUGH
YOUR COMMITTEE BECAUSE I KNOW
THAT WE WILL ALL GET A CHANCE
TO STUDY THE ISSUE, DELIVERY,
HAVE THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION
AROUND THIS ISSUE. SO, THANK
YOU JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT
PIECE.
>> WILL THE PERSON THAT HAD
THEIR HAND UP PLEASE NEXT TALK.
>> JUST TO PILE ON HERE, I WANT
TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE
FOR HER COMMENTS. I THINK PRIOR
TO ALL THE COMMENTS BEFORE, NO
DISRESPECT TO ANYONE. THAT
SPOKE BEFORE HER, BUT I THINK
SOME OF THE MOST OF THE EARLIER
THE THRUST OF THE EARLIER
COMMENTS. MINE SPECIFICALLY
FOCUS ON THIS ONE SPECIFIC
ISSUE BEFORE US. WHICH IS WHY I
APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER
MOORE'S COMMENTS BECAUSE IT
HELPS ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY
TAKE A STEP BACK. AND ZOOM OUT
AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS, YES
IT'S ABOUT THIS ISSUE BEFORE
US BUT ALSO IT'S CAPABLE OF
REPETITION. AND IT'S RIPE, IT
CAN AND LIKELY WILL HAPPEN
AGAIN. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE
NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE GENERAL
RULES AND THEN CASES AND BE
FLEXIBLE. I WORRY ABOUT BEING
OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE. I HEAR ALL
THE COMMENTS SHARED. ALONG WITH
COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE'S
COMMENTS EARLIER. WHAT I
SUPPORT IS A FULL, FAIR AND
TRANSPARENT HEARING AND
CONSIDERATION ON THIS TOPIC AND
ALL TOPICS. AND I HAVE HEARD
NOTHING FROM COUNCIL PRESIDENTS
WORDS OR ACTIONS. SO FAR THAT,
THAT WON'T HAPPEN IN THE
GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY. FOR
THOSE REASONS I SUPPORT THE
CURRENT PATH. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. IS YOUR HAND UP
AGAIN? OKAY GO AHEAD.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THANK
YOU. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE
THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT
OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES,
THEY VARY QUITE A BIT. YOU KNOW
THERE'S THINGS RELATED TO
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. THERE'S
SOME LAW PIECES THEN THERE'S
SOME ADMINISTRATIVE PIECES. SO
POLICE RECRUITMENT HAD MANY
SHORTFALLS IN THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE AND SPD AND THE
COMMISSION AND WE'RE WELL OVER
IT. THIS IS A GOVERNANCE ISSUE.
THERE WAS THAT LINE FOR THAT
TOPIC TO BE IN THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. AGAIN,
THIS STRIKES ME AND IT READS AS
A LAND USE ISSUE. I GUESS
EVERYBODY HAS THEIR POSITIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT.
>> I HEARD YOUR INTAKE OF
BREATH AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF
YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING
ELSE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION, THINGS GO
THROUGH.
>> THE COMMITTEE ACTION IS
RECOMMENDATION.
>> SO SOONER AND LATER WE ALL
GET TO VOTE ON SOMETHING EVEN
IT FAILS THE SPONSOR SHOULD
BRING IT TO FULL COUNCIL.
>> YES.
>> I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S
COMMENTS AND I FEEL FOR THAT
REASON, I'M OKAY MOVING
FORWARD IN THIS PATH. THOUGH,
AGAIN AS I SAID EARLIER, I
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S
COMMENTS.
>> THE MORE THE MERRIER IN
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION. FOLLOWING
THE PRACTICE OF OTHER
COLLEAGUES. ANYBODY IS WELCOMED
TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE AS IT
IS DISCUSSED AND HEARD. AND
ALSO, OFFER AMENDMENTS THAT CAN
EITHER BE SPONSORED BY SOMEONE
WHO'S IN THE COMMITTEE, YOU
CAN BRING IT AT FULL COUNCIL.
I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THE
AMENDMENTS AT FULL COUNCIL AS
WELL. SO WITH THAT, DO I NEED
TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
THE MOTION.
>> POINT OF ORDER OR POINT OF
CLARIFICATION. MA'AM, CAN YOU
JUST BE VERY CRISP AND CLEAR
ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY WE ARE
VOTING FOR. WHAT A YES VOTE
WOULD PROTEND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO VOTE TO IRC. SO A
YES VOTE WOULD CHANGE THE IRC.
AND A NO VOTE WOULD KEEP THE
IRC WITH COMMITTEE REFERRAL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> NO.
>> THREE IN FAVOR, FIVE
OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION FAILS AND THE IRC
WILL REMAIN THE SAME. IS THERE
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. SEEING NO
DISCUSSION, THE INTRODUCTION
REFERRAL CALENDAR IS ADOPTED.
WE WILL, IF THERE'S NO
OBJECTION. OKAY. DO I NEED TO
REPHRASE. DO I NEED TO SAY THAT
SENTENCE AGAIN?
>> CALENDAR WILL BE ADOPTED.
>> IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION THE
CALENDAR WILL BE ADOPTED.
MOVING ON. I'M TRYING TO FIND
MY SCRIPT. PLEASE GIVE ME A
MOMENT HERE.
>> I WAS IN THE LEGISLATIVE
DATA BASE LOOKING AT THE
NUMBERS OF ALL THAT. OKAY. ALL
RIGHT. MOVING ON. WE WILL NOW
ENTERTAIN THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
SO.
>> ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
>> WHAT DID YOU SAY?
>> ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
>> IF THERE'S NO, THE AGENDA
WILL BE ADOPTED. SEEING NONE,
THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WE WILL
CONTINUE ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. ITEMS INCLUDE THE
MINUTES OF JANUARY 7, 2025,
COUNCIL BILL 120931. AND 9
APPOINTMENTS FROM THE HOUSING
AND HUMAN SERVICES AND FOUR
APPOINTMENTS FROM THE LIBRARY
COMMITTEE. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS
THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE
TO REMOVE?
>> SEEING NONE. I MOVE TO ADOPT
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. IS THERE
A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S
BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO
ADOPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON THE ADOPTION OF THE
CONSENT CALENDAR.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIV ERA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> 8 IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> OKAY, THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE
TO THE MINUTES AND LEGISLATION
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ON MY
BEHALF. OKAY, THERE ARE NO
COMMITTEE REPORTS TODAY. SO IS
THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO
COME BEFORE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW?
BEFORE WE ADJOURN? I'M NOT
HEARING ANYTHING. SO, IF
THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS,
WE'LL MOVE INTO THE EXECUTIVE
SESSION. AS PRESIDING OFFICER
I'M ANNOUNCING THE SEATTLE
COUNCIL WILL NOW CONVENE INTO
THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE
PURPOSE IS TO EVALUATE THE
QUALIFICATIONS OF CANDIDATES
FOR APPOINTMENT TO ELECTIVE
OFFICE. SO YOU KNOW THE DRILL,
THIS WILL, THERE IS SCHEDULED
FOR ABOUT AN HOUR. SO. 4:40.
OKAY. WE THIS WILL CONTINUE
TILL ABOUT 4:40 AND IF THE
EXECUTIVE SESSION GOES LONGER,
I WILL COME BACK ON AIR AND
STATE THE EXPECTED TIME OF
DURATION. AND IF BUT WE COULD
JUST FINISH AT WHICH POINT THE
MEETING WOULD END
AUTOMATICALLY. ALL RIGHT, THANK
YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY FOR
YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND I'LL SEE
YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE.