>> IT IS TO: 03. I AM SARAH
NELSON, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. WILL
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE?
>> [ ROLL CALL ]
>> HOLLINGSWORTH?
>> I'M PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU. NINE PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS HAS A
PROCLAMATION PROCLAIMING OCTOBER
9th, 2025, TO BE CHRISTOPHER
WILLIAMS DAY. COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS WILL -- SHARE THE
PROCLAMATION AND THEN I WILL
OPEN THE FLOOR TO COMMENTS FROM
COUNCILMEMBERS. AFTER
COUNCILMEMBER CUMMINS WE WILL
SUSPEND THE RULES FOR
PROCLAMATION TO OUR GUEST AND
ALLOW THE GUEST TO PROVIDE BRIEF
COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS,
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO
ADDRESS THE PROCLAMATION.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I SEE WE HAVE A PACKED CHAMBER.
HALF ARE HERE FOR CHRISTOPHER
WILLIAMS AND HALF ARE HERE FOR
THE CONVERSATIONS LATER IN THE
AGENDA. IF YOU WILL PERMIT US ,
WE WILL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS
LATER. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO
TAKE A MOMENT TO CELEBRATE A
LONGTIME STEWARD OF SEATTLE'S
DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION. CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS
AND VERONICA , BECAUSE I KNOW IT
TAKES TWO TO DO EVERY JOB. I
DON'T HAVE COMMENTS PREPARED ,
CHRISTOPHER. I'M GOING TO JUST
SPEAK FROM THE HEART.
CHRISTOPHER, YOU'VE FIXED SOME
ANY PROBLEMS IN OUR CITY THAT
NOBODY NEWER PROBLEMS. YOU'VE
PROVIDED SOLUTIONS BEFORE THINGS
BROKE. YOU WERE ABLE TO COME IN
AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ARE
GOING TO CHANGE HOW WE ARE DOING
THE PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERY DAY SEATTLE CITIZENS ARE
SERVED TO THE BEST OF THE
ABILITY FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE
AND PARKS AND RECREATION. PARKS
AND RECREATION NOT ONLY RESPONSE
TO THE EXECUTIVE AND CITY
COUNCIL, THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR
OWN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION AND
BOARD. WHENEVER SOMEBODY HAS
THREE BOSSES IT CAN BE DIFFICULT
TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS THE ONE TO
LISTEN TO. CHRISTOPHER, YOU'VE
ALWAYS LISTENED TO THE FOURTH
BOSS, WHICH IS THE PEOPLE OF THE
CITY OF SEATTLE. YOU COME
THROUGH TO MAKE SOLUTIONS WORK.
YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO CUT RED
TAPE ONE IT'S ABLE TO BE CUT.
YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE , I
HAVE TO WONDER, IS IT BECAUSE
THE WATERFRONT PARK IS DONE THAT
YOU ARE NOW LEAVING? WE
COULDN'T HAVE THAT SUCCESS
WITHOUT YOU. WE COULDN'T HAVE
THE SUCCESSES THROUGHOUT OUR
CITY. WHETHER IT WAS BEACH
COMMUNITY CENTER, WHETHER IT WAS
THE LAKE CITY COMMUNITY CENTER,
WHETHER IT'S THE BOATHOUSE ,
THE HYDRO PITS OR THE BOATHOUSE
AT GREEN LAKE. YOUR FINGERPRINTS
ARE EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY . WE
COULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT
YOU. I HAVE WORRIED FOR TODAY
FOR MANY YEARS. AND I'M ALSO
RELIEVED BECAUSE ANDY HAS
STEPPED UP INTO THE SEATS THAT I
USUALLY SEE YOU SITTING IN.
ANDY, YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED, I
HAVEN'T CALLED YOU IN A COUPLE
OF MONTHS. I HAVE CALLED ANDY
EVERY OTHER WEEK. AND THAT
SUCCESSION PLANNING DOESN'T
ALWAYS HAPPEN -- YOU HAVE ASKED
TO BE THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE
PARKS DEPARTMENT MANY TIMES
OVER. YOU'VE ALWAYS RESPECTFULLY
DECLINED . AND THAT'S OKAY
BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT TRUE
LEADERSHIP DOES NOT REQUIRE
BEING IN THE CEO POSITION. YOU
HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LEADER BY
EXAMPLE. WHILE I CAN ALWAYS
REMEMBER EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID
TO ME I CAN ALWAYS REMEMBER HOW
YOU'VE MADE ME FEEL. WHETHER IT
WAS A STAFF MEMBER WORKING FOR
COUNCILMEMBER -- WHO IS HERE OR
GETTING THINGS DONE FOR OUR
CITY. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IF YOU
WANT TO CALL ANOTHER
COUNCILMEMBERS I MIGHT CRIB A
COUPLE OF WORDS OUT OF THIS
PROCLAMATION.
>> SURE. DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA . SUFFICE
HE COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA AND THEN
I WILL GO DOWN THE LIST.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
CHRISTOPHER, AS I SAID EARLIER,
I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT. YOU
MIGHT CHANGE YOUR MIND. I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR THE MANY, MANY
YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE CITY.
YOU'VE SERVED AS THE
SUPERINTENDENT INTERIM ROLL AS
INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT MORE THAN
ONCE. THE FACT THAT I'VE SEEN A
LOT OF COLLEAGUES HERE , BOTH
DIRECTORS FROM OTHER CITY
DEPARTMENTS AND THEN MANY
CALLINGS FROM PARKS HERE IS A
TESTAMENT TO YOU. AND YOUR
COLLABORATION AND THE HARD WORK
YOU HAVE PUT INTO YOUR ROLL AT
THIS CITY. ALWAYS WITH A SMILE,
ALWAYS WITH GRACE, ALWAYS
COLLABORATIVE. YOU HAVE ALWAYS
RETURNED MY CALL. WHETHER I WAS
IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, OR NOW
IN THIS ROLL , WITHOUT FAIL.
AGAIN, ALWAYS WITH A SMILE AND
ALWAYS READY TO PROBLEM SOLVE
WITH ME. I JUST CANNOT
UNDERSCORE THE SERVICE THAT
YOU'VE PROVIDED TO THE CITY AND
HOW APPRECIATIVE I AM FOR THAT
SERVICE. I KNOW I'M NOT ALONE
IN THAT GRATITUDE AND IN THAT
RECOGNITION. I'M GLAD TO SEE
THAT THIS DAY HAS COME FOR YOU
AND FOR YOUR FAMILY. IT'S VERY
WELL-EARNED. YOUR RETIREMENT. I
REALLY WISH YOU A REALLY AMAZING
RETIREMENT. AND I KNOW THAT WE
WILL SEE YOU AROUND THE CITY
BECAUSE YOU CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT
THE CITY AND YOU CARE THAT MUCH
ABOUT THE PARKS IN THE CITY. I
KNOW THIS IS JUST A "SEE YOU
LATER" AND I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD
WORK THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN. AND
THANK YOU TO YOUR PARTNER AND
FAMILY FOR ALLOWING YOU ALL
THOSE YEARS TO TAKE THE
LEADERSHIP ROLL THAT YOU HAVE AT
THE CITY. SO THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ?
>> LET ME SAY TWO THINGS FIRST.
AS SOMEONE WHO LEFT AND CAME
BACK, DON'T.
>> COME ON! IT'S NOT THAT BAD.
>> I JUST W█ANT TO START WITH
THAT AND RECOGNIZE, OF COURSE,
WHAT COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS SAID,
RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER BAG
SHAW WHO SHARED PARKS AND
WATERFRONT BEFORE ME. THEN SHE
HANDED IT OFF TO ME. I SAID, MY
PLUCKY SIDEKICK. SHE BECAME MY
VICE CHAIR. THEN I HAD SIX MORE
YEARS. CHRISTOPHER, YOU WITH
JESUS, AND NOW WITH DIAZ. I
DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START
WITH THE PARKS. COMMUNITY
MEETINGS, LAWSUITS, BUDGET, THE
ZOO, WATERFRONT , AQUARIUM,
POCKET PARKS, OFF LEASH DOG, WE
COULD GO ON, AND ON, AND ON.
EVEN THOUGH WE TRIED TO MAKE YOU
THE GUY IN CHARGE YOU HAVE
ALWAYS SAID, I'M GOING TO STAY
RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHERE I NEED
TO BE. AND NOW I KNOW WHY. I
JUST WANT TO SAY, IT'S SUCH A
PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU. I
DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC HEARS US
ENOUGH . WHEN THEY ARE PUBLIC
SERVANTS LIKE YOU, AND I HAVE
LEARNED THIS IN ANY COUNTRY AS
WELL, THERE ARE PEOPLE GOING
ANYWHERE THAT CARE. I JUST
REMEMBER A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU ARE
DOING AND YOU ARE SITTING AT THE
TABLE AND YOU QUIETLY REMIND ME,
YOU NEED TO MOVE THAT COMING TO
SECOND THAT. I WANT TO THANK
YOU. AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND HOW HARD PEOPLE WORK
IN ALL OF THESE CITY DEPARTMENTS
TO MAKE THE CITY WORK . JUST
BEHIND-THE-SCENES STUFF. I KNOW
PEOPLE COME HERE AND THEY ARE
ANGRY AND HOLLER AT US. THE CALL
IS NAMES. OKAY. THERE'S PEOPLE
LIKE YOU THAT MAKE THIS A REASON
WHY I WOULD COME BACK HERE. I
KNOW YOU PUT UP WITH A LOT ,
GIRL. I KNOW YOU DID. SEE? WITH
THAT, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU,
COUNSELOR BAG SHOP. CAN YOU
RAISE YOUR HAND? PLEASE LET
PEOPLE KNOW YOU'RE HERE. THERE
SHE IS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT
PICK
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I WILL BE SUPERFAST. MR.
WILLIAMS, CHRISTOPHER, THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR
CITY. I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR A LONG
TIME. HE WORKED WITH MY FATHER
AT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND HE
ALWAYS VERY HIGHLY OF YOU AND
ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU'VE
DONE. ANYTIME I SPOKE WITH
ANYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY THEY
ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THEIR GREAT
INTERACTION WITH YOU, HOW YOU
CARED PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE
PARK SYSTEM. YOU ARE LIKE A
WALKING ENCYCLOPEDIA. YOU KNOW
PARKS IN AND OUT. I SEE YOUR
LOVELY WIFE SHAKING HER HEAD.
YOU KNOW THE SYSTEM IN AND OUT.
NOT JUST THE PARKS DEPARTMENT,
BUT THE GROUPS THAT CONTINUE TO
KEEP OUR PARKS HEALTHY AND
CONNECTED HIM AND THAT ARE
ADVOCATING FOR THEM. THAT IS A
BIG PIECE IN WHAT OUR PARKS
DEPARTMENT DOES IS MAKING SURE
WE HAVE GREAT INTERACTION WITH
OUR COMMUNITY. AND I REALLY
THANK YOU FOR REALLY SETTING THE
TONE AND THE BAR. HOPEFULLY YOU
ENJOY EVERY PIECE OF YOUR
RETIREMENT FORWARD. SO THANK
YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
MR. WILLIAMS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SERVICE TO THE CITY AND THANK
YOU TO YOUR FAMILY. WE ALL KNOW
THAT IS REAL. I JUST WANT TO
SAY, WE THINK IT SUPPORT. THANK
YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, TO
CELEBRATE THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN
IN SERVICE TO THE CITY FOR SUCH
A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. AND THAT
SERVICE HAD SUCH A HIGH LEVEL
FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. SO THANK
YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
CELEBRATE MR. WILLIAMS. SINCE WE
ARE A MARITIME CITY I WILL CLOSE
BY SAYING, FAIR WINDS AND
FOLLOWING SEAS. WHATEVER LIES
NEXT IN YOUR NEXT CHAPTER. THANK
YOU.
>> LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE IS
ANYBODY ELSE WITH HER HAND UP. I
WILL SIMPLY SAY, I WILL MISS
YOU. YOU KNOW, OUR PARKS ARE A
COMMONS. IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST
TANGIBLE AND BELOVED SYMBOL OF
OUR DEMOCRACY. IT'S WHERE WE
COME TOGETHER, IT'S EVERYTHING
IN BETWEEN. AND THE STEWARDSHIP
OF OUR PARKS SAYS A GREAT DEAL
IF NOT THE MOST OF OUR
STEWARDSHIP OF OUR DEMOCRACY
BASICALLY. I KNOW THIS SOUNDS
GRANDIOSE. OUR PARKS ARE
REPRESENTATION OF OUR ABILITY TO
DELIVER. TO JUST PERFORM LOCAL
GOVERNMENT FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.
DELIVERING BASIC SERVICES. IT'S
ALSO DOING SO IN A WAY THAT
IMPROVES PEOPLE'S LIVES AND
SHOWS WHAT WE CAN BE AS A CITY
TOGETHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
ALSO HOPE THAT YOU WRITE YOUR
MEMOIR SOMEDAY. IT WOULD BE
INTERESTING. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. MAYBE
THIS IS FOR THE CLERK. WE HAVE
COUNCILMEMBER JOEY HOLLINGSWORTH
WITH US IN OPEN SESSION. CAN SHE
PLEASE SIGN?
>> I COULDN'T HEAR THE END OF
WHAT YOU SAID.
>> CAN COUNCILMEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH SIGNED THE
PROCLAMATION SINCE WE ARE IN
OPEN SESSION?
>> ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT?
THERE'S A TECHNICALITY. GO
AHEAD.
>> AT THIS POINT, THE PROTOCOL
FOR IT , THE SIGNATURES ARE
REPRESENTED FROM THOSE MEMBERS
THAT ARE PRESENT FOR THAT
MEETING AND WHO SIGNED ONTO AT
THAT MEETING.
>> I WILL SCRIBBLE IN JOY'S
NAME LATER.
>> CAN I GET A VERBAL SIGNATURE?
I VERBALLY SIGN THE
PROCLAMATION.
>> WE WILL PUT A POST-IT NOTE ON
THERE. I WILL JUST CLOSE WITH
SOME FINAL REMARKS READING FROM
THE PROCLAMATION. I WILL READ
EVERY WORD OF IT. CHRISTOPHER,
YOU EMBODY QUIET POWER. YOU HAVE
SERVED OUR NATION, YOU HAVE
SERVED OUR CITY . YOU COME NOT
LOOKING FOR THE SPOTLIGHT OR THE
SOAPBOX, OR TO SAY WHAT IS RIGHT
AND WRONG. YOU COME TO SAY WHAT
WILL WORK FOR SEATTLE. IT'S HOW
WE GET THE JOB DONE. HOW WE GET
THE JOB DONE AS QUICKLY AND
EQUITABLE AS POSSIBLE. IT'S
JUST A SINCERE PLEASURE. SO
READING FROM THIS , HAVING GROWN
UP IN SEATTLE AND AS A GRADUATE
OF COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, A FORMER
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS
OFFICER AND COMMITTED COMMUNITY
LEADER , CHRISTOPHER'S
PROFESSIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS ARE
MATCHED BY HIS PERSONAL
INTEGRITY. HE HAS BEEN
RECOGNIZED BY THE MUNICIPAL LEAD
OF IN COUNTIES PUBLIC EMPLOYEE
OF THE YEAR AND THE RECIPIENT OF
THE NATIONAL RECREATIONAL AND
PARKS ASSOCIATION ROSE AWARD FOR
HIS CONTRIBUTION AND EXCEPTIONAL
COMMITMENT TO HIS FIELD OF
PROFESSION. CHRISTOPHER HAS
SERVED FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS
HERE IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND
HIS STEADFAST COMMITMENT ENSURES
SEATTLE'S PARKS AND OPEN SPACES
THRIVE. AND HE HAS BEEN
INSTRUMENTAL IN PROMOTING THE
CITY'S HEALTH, SUSTAINABILITY
AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. YOU HAVE
SERVED IN A NUMBER OF ROLES IN
THE PARKS AND RECREATION. UNDER
FIVE DIFFERENT MAYORS, INCLUDING
ACTING SUPERINTENDENT THREE
TIMES. JEFF PROVIDED THE
DEPARTMENT WITH THE STEADY
DIRECTION DURING CHALLENGING
TIMES . ALWAYS STEPPING UP TO
GUIDE THE TEAM WITH
PROFESSIONALISM AND GRACE. AND
AS DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT AND
CHIEF OF STAFF CHRISTOPHER
MANAGED THE DAY-TO-DAY
OPERATIONS OF THE PARKS AND
RECREATION SYSTEM THAT IS
CONSISTENTLY RANKED AMONG THE
TOP 10 IN THE NATION. AP NEVER
LET ME FORGET THAT. EXPERTLY
OVERSEEING MORE THAN 1000
EMPLOYEES, 10 SWIMMING POOLS, 26
COMMUNITY CENTERS AND THE
MAINTENANCE OF 6200 ACRES OF
PARKLAND ACROSS THE CITY. WHICH
INCLUDE NEARLY 500 DEVELOPED
PARKS. WE COULDN'T HAVE THIS
CITY SUCCESS WITHOUT YOU. I'M
SURE THAT AP AND ANDY WILL
CONTINUE THAT LEGACY WHILE YOU
ARE OUT FISHING. IF YOU HAVE ANY
EXTRA FISH, YOU'VE GOT MY
NUMBER. WITH THAT, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT, I WOULD ASK IF WE
COULD ALL TAKE A PHOTO AND TO
HAVE CHRISTOPHER'S GUESTS JOIN
US ON THE SIDE OF THE BARRIER IF
THAT WOULD BE ALL RIGHT.
>> SURE. I HAVE TO SUSPEND THE
RULES FOR THE PROCLAMATION TO
OUR GUEST AND ALLOW THE GUEST TO
PROVIDE BRIEF COMMENTS. I SEE NO
OBJECTION TO SUSPENDING THE
RULES . LET'S GO FORWARD. THE
COUNCILS ARE SUSPENDED. THE
PROCLAMATION WILL NOW BE
PRESENTED . AFTER IT IS
PRESENTED CHRISTOPHER CAN SAY A
FEW WORDS TO US. GO AHEAD,
PLEASE PICK
>> WONDERFUL. SO IF YOU ARE HERE
FOR CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS ,
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, WE ARE DOING
THIS ON THE FLY. TELL ME IF WE
ARE OUT OF LINE. IF YOU'RE HERE
FOR CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS, IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO THIS
FRONT AREA. CHRISTOPHER AND
VERONICA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
JOIN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS
SIDE OF THE DAIS. DOES THAT
WORK? ON THE SIDE. YEP. IS THAT
OKAY? THERE'S A LOT OF MIXING .
SORRY.
>> JUST TELL ME WHAT TO DO.
>> JUST COME RIGHT IN.
>> OKAY. CAN I START? ALL RIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
COUNCIL. JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL
OF THE KINDER MARKS AND NICE
WORDS. THEY ARE SINCERELY
HEARTFELT AND I FEEL GREAT HERE.
I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
I'VE SAT AT THE TABLE MANY
TIMES . JUST THE ABUNDANT
COURTESY AND RESPECT THEY OFFER
TO CITY STAFF WHENEVER WE COME
HERE AND SIT IN FRONT OF YOU. I
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT .
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT
HEAR A LOT BUT IT MEANS A LOT
FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME AND STAFF WHO
WORK IN THE DEPARTMENT. I WANT
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TEAM I WORK
WITH . DIAZ, OUR SUPERINTENDENT,
MICHELLE FINNIGAN, ANDY
SHEPPARD, DESIREE, -- KATELYN,
RACHEL, AND ALEX , WHO WILL BE
TAKING MY PLACE . JUST A
WONDERFUL GROUP OF COLLEAGUES
AND PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE. THEY
KEEP IT REAL . WHAT IS SPECIAL
ABOUT THIS TEAM IS NOBODY IS
VYING FOR RECOGNITION OR TO GET
NOTICE. THEY WORK REALLY WELL
TOGETHER IN PROFESSIONAL WAY. I
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE A COUPLE OF
-- WERE HERE. CAULEY MILLER, WHO
HIRED ME WAY BACK WHEN. AND KEN
IS HERE. THERE HE IS. AND HOLLY.
AND KURT GREENE IS ALSO HERE . I
THINK KURT GREENE HAD HIS OWN
PROCLAMATION DAY WAY BACK WHEN .
I WANT TO SURPRISE SOME PEOPLE
HERE. SALLY BACK SHOT, STEVE
BOYD, BOB DAVISON, MY FAMILY, MY
LOVELY WIFE, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW
WHO ARE HERE . AND JUST WITH
HEARTFELT GRATITUDE AND
APPRECIATION FOR EVERYONE HERE
WHOSE NAME I DIDN'T CALL. BUT I
LOVE YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU. WE
HAVE SHARED TOGETHER IS SO MUCH
RECIPROCAL RESPECT AND
APPRECIATION AND A LOVE FOR THE
PARK AND RECREATION SYSTEM. AND
A BASIC COMMONALITY AROUND THE
LOVE OF THE PARK SYSTEM HAS
DRIVEN OUR RELATIONSHIP FOR MORE
THAN 30 YEARS. THAT HAS HELD A
SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART. THANK
YOU TO THE COUNCIL . AND THANK
YOU TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HERE FOR
30 YEARS AND PROVIDE FOR MY
FAMILY. IT HAS BEEN A
TRANSFORMATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND
TRANSFORMATIONAL RIDE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
>> AFTER APPLAUSE THERE IS
SUPPOSED TO BE AN ENCORE. JUST
KIDDING. EVERYBODY, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. OKAY. MOVING ON.
COLLEAGUES, AT THIS TIME WE WILL
OPEN THE HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD. PUBLIC COMMENT IS
LIMITED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S
AGENDA. THE INTRODUCTION AND
REFERRAL CALENDAR, AND THE
COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM. HOW MANY
PEOPLE DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO
SPEAK TODAY?
>> WE HAVE 60 IN PERSON AND 69
REMOTE.
>> OKAY. WE WILL DO 10 AND 10,
PLEASE. START WITH 10 IN PERSON
COMMENTERS.
>> SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED THE
ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE
REGISTERED. WE WILL ALTERNATE
BETWEEN SETS OF IN PERSON
SPEAKERS AND REMOTE SPEAKERS.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
10 SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THEIR
TIME. SPEAKERS MICROPHONES WILL
BE MUTED IF THEY DO NOT END
THEIR COMMENTS WITHIN THE
ALLOTTED TIME TO ALLOW US TO
CALL ON THE NEXT SPEAKER. WE
WILL NOW BEGIN WITH OUR IN
PERSON COMMENTERS.
>> WE HAVE THE FIRST 10
SPEAKERS. WE HAVE EVENT AND THEN
RACHEL SNELL, JOE GOC'S AND
ALEX. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE START,
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, FROM
THE WATERFRONT PARK. I WENT TO
THE GRAND OPENING. IT IS JUST,
JUST WONDERFUL. I ALSO WANT TO
THANK YOU. I WANT TO COMMENT TO
THE CAMERAS. I WOULD RATHER HAVE
THEM AND NOT NEED THEM THEN NEED
THEM AND NOT HAVE THEM. I DON'T
HAVE TIME TODAY TO SPEAK ON
ACCOUNTABILITY. BUT I ALSO HAVE
A SMALL TOKEN OF APPRECIATION ,
TO GIVE THAT TO YOU ONCE THE
MEETING IS OVER. THAT'S ALL I
HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE I'VE ONLY
GOT ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, PRESIDENT
NELSON AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY
COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RACHEL
SNELL. I, LIKE MANY OTHER
SEATTLE , URGING YOU TO VOTE NO
ON SP'S PILOTED USE OF THE
SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM. FEDERAL
AUTHORITIES CURRENTLY USE THESE
TOOLS THROUGH ICE AND HOMELAND
SECURITY TO -- IMMIGRANTS AND
THOSE SEEKING GENDER FROM CARE
AND VIOLATE THE RIGHTS TO
PRIVACY AND WILL IN FACT
DECREASE PUBLIC SAFETY.
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES HERE IN
SEATTLE ARE ALREADY FACING --
FAMILIES ARE BEING TORN APART
AND MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS DON'T
FEEL SAFE GOING TO SCHOOL, WORK,
GROCERY STORE WITHOUT HAVING TO
WORRY ABOUT BEING KIDNAPPED OR
HUMMING TO AN EMPTY HOME.
INSTEAD OF PROMOTING ANOTHER
WORTHLESS PIECE OF LEGISLATION,
LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A HABIT OF
DOING, AND WASTE MORE TAX
DOLLARS, WHY NOT TAKE A STAND
FOR ACTUAL PUBLIC SAFETY? STAND
UP FOR THE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES WHO
TRULY MAKE THE CITY AN AMAZING
CITY TO LIVE IN. AND THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER -- FOR YOUR
TIRELESS LEADERSHIP.
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD. I WANT TO
NOTE, I WAS ALERTED THAT THE
43rd LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT
REPRESENTATIVE SEAN SCOTT IS IN
THE HOUSE. I DIDN'T REALIZE
THAT WHAT I WAS STARTING TO CALL
PEOPLE. IT'S OUR TRADITION FOR
ELECTEDS AND FORMER ELECTEDS THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. IF YOU
WOULD LIKE, YOU CAN COME UP
AFTER THE SPEAKER. THANK YOU. GO
AHEAD, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE SPOKEN TO SEATTLE CITY
COUNCIL MEETINGS FOUR TIMES
REGARDING THE USE OF AMPLIFIED
SOUND SYSTEMS ON THE SIDEWALK
SURROUNDING T-MOBILE PARK. I
HAVE SPOKEN TO THE MAYOR, CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLEASE CAPTAIN
AND REPRESENTATIVES OF SEATTLE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON
NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. DURING THAT
TIME THE PROBLEM HAS GOTTEN
WORSE. ON SUNDAY THIS PAST
HOMESTAND SIX INDIVIDUALS USING
LOUDSPEAKERS WERE CIRCLING THE
BALLPARK AS THEY BLASTED
FAMILIES WAITING FOR A GAME WITH
THE HIGHEST SOUND LEVELS I HAVE
EVER RECORDED AT T-MOBILE PARK.
THEY WERE ALL OVER 110 DECIBELS
AND ONE WAS BROADCASTING AT
121.7 DECIBELS. AND THIS WAS
LITTLE LEAGUE DAY. FOUR MONTHS
AGO I WAS TOLD THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS LOOKING TO
DRAFT LEGISLATIVE APPROACH TO
FIX THE GAPS IN OUR CURRENT
LAWS. THE KIDS HAVE TO SUFFER OF
HEARING LOSS FOR THE REST OF
THEIR LIVES BEFORE THIS CAN BE
SOLVED? THANK YOU.
>> GO AHEAD AND CALL THE NEXT
SPEAKER. I WANT TO SAY, WE WILL
ATTEMPT TO GET THROUGH EVERYBODY
WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK TODAY. TO
MAKE SURE WE CAN KEEP THINGS
ROLLING, PLEASE -- HANDS AND
SNAPS ARE ENCOURAGED. BUT
SHOUTING, CHANTING, CLAPPING AND
OTHER DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR,
PLEASE, NO THANK YOU.
>> WE NOW HAVE ALEX -- AT LEAST.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ALEX FEHER.
I AM SPEAKING JUST FOR MYSELF,
BUT ALSO FOR SEATTLE INDIVISIBLE
AS WELL. I WANTED TO ADDRESS WHY
WE ARE CONSIDERING EXPANDING THE
SURVEILLANCE RIGHT NOW. MIDDLE
OF OUR PILOT PROGRAM WITHOUT THE
RESULTS IN. THE CITY'S OWN
PROCESSES TO EVALUATE FIRST AND
THEN DECIDE. YET, THE
INDEPENDENT STUDY WON'T BE
READY UNTIL 2026 , 2027. WHAT
YOU ARE PROPOSING THE EXPANSION
NOW. IF LIKE THAT BREAKS THE
PROMISE OF A DATA-DRIVEN PILOT
IN THE FIRST PLACE. IN ADDITION,
THE CIVIL RIGHTS RISKS ARE REAL
. THE CPC AND THE ACLU OF
WASHINGTON ARE BOTH OPPOSING
THIS EXPANSION, CITING THREATS
OF DATA, HOSTILE ACTORS,
INCLUDING IMMIGRATION
ENFORCEMENT. I JUST WANT TO
PAUSE ON THAT MOMENT FOR SECOND.
REGARDLESS OF YOUR INTENTIONS,
SEATTLE CANNOT GUARANTEE HOW
THIRD PARTIES OR THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WILL USE THIS DATA.
ICE WILL GAIN ACCESS, JUST LIKE
THEY HAVE IN MEDICAID AND THE
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING.
>> HELLO. I AM HERE TODAY . AS
WE SPEAK , FEDERAL AGENTS IN
CHICAGO ARE PREPARING TO ROLL
OUT TROOPS. FEDERAL AGENTS HAVE
INVADED D.C. AND THEY HAVE
THREATENED TO INVADE SEATTLE AND
PORTLAND AS WELL. WHILE YOU GUYS
SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU
DON'T WANT TO SEE , WHAT ARE
YOU DOING ABOUT IT? YOU ARE
PASSING BILLS THAT MAKE IT
EASIER FOR DONALD TRUMP TO GET
AWAY WITH HIS CONSTITUTIONAL
ABUSES. POLICE SHOULD HAVE TO
GET A WARRANT IF THEY WANT TO
ACCESS THIS FOOTAGE. SIMPLE AS
THAT. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT
TO SPY ON EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.
I WENT TO GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL,
COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
I'M VERY PROUD OF GOING TO
GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL. DON'T DO
THIS TO OUR COMMITTEE. MEMBER
SOLOMON, YOU HAVE BEEN IN MY
HOUSE BEFORE. FROM DISTRICT 2.
YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY. I KNOW
THAT YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON BUT
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU
CAN VOTE FOR. THIS WILL HARM MY
COMMUNITY. COUNCIL MEMBER
RIVERA, YOU WON BY LESS THAN 500
VOTES, BOTH OF YOU. MEMBER
NELSON IS NOT GOING TO WIN
REELECTION. AND COUNCILMEMBER
SAKA. I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
>> WE HAVE A LEASE. FOLLOWING
ELISE WILL BE ALISA AND THEN
CARL.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I JUST WANT
TO POINT OUT , WHILE EVERYBODY
IS IN LOVE WITH TECHNOLOGY, TOYS
AND MACHINES , THAT MY EXPENSE
WITH CCTV HAS BEEN PRETTY
USELESS. CCTV CAUGHT WHOEVER
STOLE MY HUSBAND'S BICYCLE IN
BROAD DAYLIGHT IN A SAFEWAY
PARKING LOT. YEAH, WE NEVER SAW
THE BIKE OR THE PERPETRATOR EVER
AGAIN. WHEN SOMEONE IS HAVING
PROBLEMS AND GO THROUGH THE
ALLEY OR SMASHED OVER HALF A
DOZEN WINDOWS AND THE CARS THAT
ARE PARKED IN THE ALLEY, YEAH,
THAT WAS ON CCTV. WE HAD TO GO
TO OUR INSURANCE . NOBODY EVER
CAUGHT THE GUY, NOBODY EVER
REALLY COULD DO MUCH. AND JUST
RECENTLY, AGAIN, ON CCTV WE
COULD WATCH AS SOMEBODY BROKE
INTO OUR RECYCLE AND TRASH AND
TOOK A GREAT, BIG DEFECATION ALL
OVER EVERYTHING. I WOULD SAY,
PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE
AND COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MY NAME IS -- I LIVE IN
CAPITAL DISTRICT 3. SURVEILLANCE
DOES NOT PREVENT CRIME .
SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT INCREASE
SAFETY. SURVEILLANCE OF THIS
KIND IS TOO POWERFUL AND TOO
UNREGULATED TO BE IN THE HANDS
OF A POLICE FORCE THAT HAS
DEMONSTRATED THEY CAN'T EVEN
DRIVE PROPERLY. THIS BILL IS A
THINLY VEILED ATTEMPT FOR THIS
BODY TO DOUBLE DOWN ON YOUR
FAILURES. MORE MONEY FOR MORE
WEAPONS . MORE MONEY FOR MORE
OUT OF TOUCH POLICING BY
OUT-OF-STATE COPS . AND MILLIONS
MORE FOR IT ALL. THE ONLY THING
THAT WE NEED MORE OF THAT WE
DON'T HAVE IS BOLD LEADERS. WE
ARE IN A NATIONAL STATE AND
CITYWIDE FIGHT TO PROTECT OUR
NEIGHBORS. DO YOU WANT US TO BE
ASHAMED TO BE YOURS? I YIELD MY
TIME.
>> WE NOW HAVE CARL . AFTER CARL
WILL BE LUCAS MOORE AND THEN
TARA MILLER.
>> MY NAME IS CARL., SEATTLE
RESIDENT . I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE
EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY IN SEATTLE. THE DATA
SHOWS CRIME IN SEATTLE IS GOING
DOWN. YET SOMEHOW OUR COUNCIL
MEMBERS FEEL THIS IS THE TIME TO
SELL OUT OUR PRIVACY AND HUMAN
RIGHTS TO CORPORATIONS IN THE
NAME OF PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT HOW
SAFE IS THAT? THE VENDORS
REGULARLY SHARE DATA WITH ICE
AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT
ENTITIES BOND OUR STATE
JURISDICTION. COUNSEL, IF YOU
VOTE YES YOU WILL SERIOUSLY
ENDANGER WOMEN SEEKING
HEALTHCARE WHO COME HERE FROM
STATES WHERE ABORTION IS
ILLEGAL. YOU WILL BE AIDING AND
ABETTING ICE. SURVEILLANCE
VENDORS DON'T CARE ABOUT
INNOCENT PEOPLE'S PRIVACY. THEY
HAPPILY SELL YOUR DATA TO THE
HIGHEST BIDDER. WHETHER THAT'S
AN ADVERTISING COMPANY OR THE
STATE OF TEXAS. THEY ARE IN IT
FOR THE MONEY, NOT OUR SAFETY.
COUNSEL, WHAT ARE YOU IN IT FOR?
YOU CAN MAKE THE BRAVE CHOICE TO
PROTECT OUR HUMAN RIGHTS OR YOU
CAN BE COWARDS AND VOTE YES TO
PROP UP OUR MAYOR'S FAILING
REELECTION CAMPAIGN BY JOINING
HIM AND PRETENDING TO BE TOUGH
ON CRIME DURING AN ELECTION
YEAR. I URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE NO.
THANK YOU.
>> WE NOW HAVE LUCAS MOORE AND
THEN TARA.
>> THE NEWS OF THE TRUMP'S
ADMINISTRATION OVERSTEPPING IS A
TUESDAY NIGHT FOR US. WE SEE IT
OVER, AND OVER, AND OVER, AND
OVER AGAIN. SANCTUARY CITY
OAKLAND POLICE HAVE ALREADY
FUNNELED SURVEILLANCE DATA INTO
ICE. SO WHY CAN'T IT HAPPEN
HERE? WOULD THIS HARM THE SAFETY
OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IF THE
SPD GOT ICE TWO, OH MY GOD ,
THERE ARE TWO DOGS HERE.
THERE'S SPD, WHICH IS ARTIE
VIOLENT. AND THERE'S THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. IF YOU SAY YES
TO THIS BILL YOU WERE NOT ONLY
FEEDING THE SPD , WHICH IS ARTIE
VIOLENT, BUT YOU'RE FEEDING THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WHO PUBLIC
-- PUBLICLY WANTS ALL OF US THAT
IN THIS ROOM. VOTE NO.
>> WE NOW HAVE TARA AND THEN
AFTER TARA WE WILL HAVE, SORRY,
MEDINA. AND THEN WE WILL GO TO
ONLINE SPEAKERS.
>> MY NAME IS TARA. THE DISTRICT
5. I AM ONE OF THE CHURCH
COUNCILS CO-EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS.
WE ARE -- POTENTIAL CITY --
SURVEILLANCE. WE ARE ASKING YOU
TO DELAY THE EXPANSION. OUR
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SWIFTLY
DEMONIZED AND ATTACKED AS MANY
COMMITTEES AS A CAN. BLACK AND
BROWN COMMUNITY'S, LGBTQ
COMMITTEES AND MIGRANT
COMMUNITIES OF WHICH THE CHURCH
COUNCIL IS IN ACCOUNTABLE
RELATIONSHIP. PEOPLE ARE
TERRIFIED FOR THEIR SAFETY. AND
AS A AND TRANS PERSON I AM TOO.
THIS IS A TIME MORE THAN EVER
MERCEDES WHO CLAIM TO PROVIDE
CENTURY MUST TAKE THAT VALUE
SERIOUSLY. IS OUR MORAL
OBLIGATION IN AN IMMORAL TIME.
IN THE FACE OF ANOTHER BUDGET
DEFICIT AND FEDERAL CUTS TO
COMMUNITY SERVICES $1 MILLION TO
FURTHER SURVEIL OUR COMMUNITY
DOES NOT EMBODY THE CITIES VALUE
OF CARE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. DELAY
EXPANDING THE PILOT PROGRAM
UNTIL IT CAN BE EVALUATED,
CONDUCT MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF
THIS PROGRAM AND INVEST IN
EVIDENCE-BASED COMMUNITY SAFETY
PROGRAMS. THANK YOU.
>> MEDINA, WHO WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES.
>> IT AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I'M USING AN
INTERPRETER TO SHARE MY
TESTIMONY. I AM REQUESTING
ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THIS
ACCOMMODATION. I AM A COMMUNITY
ORGANIZER WITH THE CHURCH
COUNCIL AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT
5. I URGE YOU TO REJECT THE
RUSHED EXPANSION OF THE VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM . EXPANDING
IT NOW IGNORES THE AGREED TO
MAKE YOUR EVALUATION AND RAISES
CONCERNS ABOUT MISUSE AND HIDDEN
INTENTIONS. THIS PROGRAM
THREATENS IRREPARABLE HARM TO
RACIAL PROFILING THE
DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGETED
BLACK, BROWN AND LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES. THE CONSEQUENCES
ARE REAL AND FRIGHTENING. WE
CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE
PARENTS ARE AFRAID TO GO TO
WORK, WHERE CHILDREN STOPPED
GOING TO SCHOOL, WHERE ANYONE IS
SUBJECT TO SCRUTINY, PROFILING
AND DETENTION. OUR CITY HAS THE
CHANCE TO LEAD DIFFERENTLY AND
SHOW THAT WE WILL NOT COMPROMISE
FREEDOM FOR THE ILLUSION OF
SECURITY. I URGE YOU TO DELAY
THE EXPANSION, CONDUCT
MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
ABOUT THIS IMPACT OF THIS
PROGRAM, AND INVEST IN
EVIDENCE-BASED COMMUNITY SAFETY
PROGRAMS.
>> WE WILL MOVE TO REMOTE
SPEAKERS. AS A REMINDER TO OUR
REMOTE SPEAKERS TO PLEASE PRESS
STAR 6 AFTER YOU HEAR THE
MESSAGE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ON
MUTED. WE WILL BEGIN WITH RED
FOLLOWED BY ALPER, AND -- GO
AHEAD, READ.
>> IT AFTERNOON, SEATTLE VOTERS.
SEATTLE CALLS ITSELF A SANCTUARY
CITY. BUT ACTUALLY SPEAK LOUDER
THAN LABELS. RECENTLY,
WASHINGTON'S DEPARTMENT OF
LICENSING WAS CAUGHT QUIETLY
SHARING INFORMATION WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT, UNDERMINING
IMMIGRANT SAFETY. WITH THIS BILL
WE ARE EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE
CAMERAS IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE
MANY VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
WORK. THIS IS AN TRUE SANCTUARY.
IT'S PERFORMATIVE SANCTUARY.
EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE ALIGNS
MORE WITH PROJECT 2025 THAN WITH
OUR CITY VALUES OF PRIVACY,
SAFETY AND INCLUSION. OUR
GENERAL ELECTION BALLOTS WILL BE
ARRIVING SOON. REMEMBER,
REMEMBER WHO VOTED FOR THIS BILL
AND WHO STOOD AGAINST IT.
SEATTLE HAS THE MOST POLICE
OFFICERS AT THE CAPITAL ON
JANUARY 6th. PUBLIC SAFETY IS
NOT IN THE HANDS OF IMMIGRANTS.
IT'S UNDER THREAT FROM VIOLENT
INSURRECTIONIST. REJECT THIS
BILL, LOOK AT THE DATA AND STOP
PRETENDING OTHERWISE.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALPER
FOLLOWED BY -- GO AHEAD, ALPER.
>> HI. MY NAME IS ALPER. I LIVE
IN WEDGEWOOD. I WANTED TO
PROVIDE SOME COMMENTS AGAINST
THE ADOPTION OF COUNSEL BILL
121052 . IN MY OPINION THIS IS
NOT A GOOD TIME TO BE PUSHING
THIS SORT OF LEGISLATION THAT
I'VE READ MULTIPLE DOCUMENTS
RELATED TO THIS BILL AND AM
REALLY STRUGGLING TO SEE THE
NEED TO ENACT THE BILL AS
WRITTEN NOW. THE MAJOR POINT
THAT I WANT TO MAKE YOUR,
SEATTLE'S OWN ORDINANCE IS
RELATED TO SURVEILLANCE AND
REQUIRES EVALUATION TO ENSURE
THAT A PILOT IS WARRANTED TO
BECOME PERMANENT. FOR THE
DOCUMENTS I WAS ABLE TO ACCESS I
AM NOT CONVINCED. THE OFFICE OF
CIVIL RIGHTS CERTAINLY ISN'T
CONVINCED THAT THIS INVESTMENT
IS WARRANTED AND DOES PROVIDE
STRONG STEPS FORWARD FOR
COMMUNITY POLICING. BACK MY
CURRENT RESEARCH AND
CRIMINOLOGY. OTHER COMMENTS OR
NOTES THAT WE HAVE NOT EVEN
REACHED THE TWO-YEAR MARK I URGE
THE COUNCIL -- AND COMMUNITY
CONCERNS -- I WANT TO CONVEY MY
HEARTFELT THANKS TO CHRISTOPHER
WILLIAMS FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE
CITY. BRAVO.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS -- SHE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
JILL FREBERG AND THEN ASHLEY. GO
AHEAD.
>> I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE
REFERRAL SERVICE TO URGE COUNSEL
TO VOTE AGAINST THE EXPANSION.
AS A SERVICE PROVIDER TO OVER
30,000 ASIAN, HAWAIIAN AND
PACIFIC ISLANDERS WE UNDERSTAND
THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE EXPANSION OF THIS PROGRAM
DOES THE OPPOSITE OF PROTECTING
OUR IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES.
EXPANDING THE DATA AND
INFORMATION WE COLLECT ON CITY
RESIDENCE TO A CLOUD-BASED
SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM CREATES AN
INFRASTRUCTURE AND POTENTIAL
LOOPHOLE FOR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION
ENFORCEMENT TO TARGET
COMMUNITIES OUR CITY HAS SWORN
TO PROTECT. THIS NAÏVE AND
IRRESPONSIBLE TO IGNORE THAT WE
ARE IN A POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT
WHERE FEDERAL AGENTS ARE ACTING
WITH COMPLETE IMPUNITY TO ACCESS
PRIVATE DATA TO CARRY OUT A MASS
DEPORTATION AGENDA. WITHOUT ANY
RESEARCH OR EVALUATION ON THE
PROGRAM IMMIGRANTS OF THE CITY
BELIEVE A VOTE TO EXPAND THIS
PROGRAM IS ANYTHING BUT AN EMPTY
POLITICAL GESTURE TO ADDRESS
PUBLIC SAFETY AT THE COST OF OUR
PROTECTION. WE URGE YOU TO VOTE
AGAINST THE EXPANSION.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS JILL FREBERG, FOLLOWED BY
ASHLEY. GO AHEAD, JILL.
>> HI. I LIVE A BLOCK FROM
GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL. THE
CAMERAS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE
GARFIELD CAMPUS DID NOT PREVENT
THE MURDER OF MURPHY PAIN, NOR
HAS THAT FOOTAGE HELPED
APPREHEND HIS KILLER . BUT
THAT'S JUST ANECDOTAL. THERE
ARE AMPLE STATISTICAL DATA
INDICATING THAT SURVEILLANCE
CAMERAS DO NOT REDUCE CRIME.
HOWEVER, INSTALLING SURVEILLANCE
CAMERAS DOES CREATE THE
APPEARANCE THAT THE CITY IS
DOING SOMETHING TO SO-CALLED
REDUCE CRIME. BUT THE DATA TELLS
US THAT THIS INVASION OF PRIVACY
WILL NOT ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS AND
THE CITY COUNCIL KNOWS IT. AT A
TIME WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
IS TRAMPLING HUMAN RIGHTS
PROTECTIONS AND THREATENING TO
WAGE WAR ON SO-CALLED SANCTUARY
CITIES . THERE IS NO TRUE
GUARANTEE THAT THE DATA AND
FOOTAGE COLLECT BY THESE CAMERAS
WILL END UP IN THE WRONG HANDS.
THE CITY SHOULD BE PROTECTING
ITS CITIZENS . NOT MAKING THEM
EVEN MORE VULNERABLE. THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ASHLEY
FOLLOWED BY HOWARD GALE AND THEN
CATHERINE DAWSON. GO AHEAD,
ASHLEY.
>> HI. I'M ASKING YOU TO NOT
EXPAND AS PD'S USE OF CAMERAS.
YOU HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS
AGAINST THIS LEGISLATION TODAY.
IF YOU WALK INTO THIS CHAMBER
WITH YOUR MIND MADE UP I JUST
ASK THAT YOU OPEN UP A SMALL
CRACK IN YOUR CERTAINTY AND
CONSIDER OUR POSITION. I KNOW
THAT THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE
PLANNING TO VOTE YES WERE
ELECTED ON PUBLIC SAFETY
PLATFORM AND I KNOW YOU DO WANT
TO DO RIGHT BY THE COMMUNITY.
I'M JUST ASKING, LOOK AT THE
SITUATION WE ARE IN AND ASK IF
IT'S THE SAME AS WE WERE TWO
YEARS AGO. WE ARE WATCHING CRIME
DROP, WE ARE WATCHING HOMICIDES
DROP. AND NOW THE THREAT TO OUR
PUBLIC SAFETY COMES IN THE FORM
OF REDUCTION TO OUR CIVIL
LIBERTIES. RIGHT NOW A CITY
GOVERNMENT CANNOT GUARANTEE
ANYONE SAFETY FROM OUR FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN ONLY
MITIGATE RISK. CCTV SURVEILLANCE
IS AN INVASIVE AND POWERFUL AND
DANGEROUS TOOL. AND IT WILL BE
USED TO KIDNAP MEMBERS OF OUR
COMMUNITY. IT WILL BE USED TO
STOP PEOPLE FROM SEEKING
HEALTHCARE. YOU CAN DO SO TODAY
AND STAND --
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS HOWARD GALE, FOLLOWED BY
CATHERINE DAWSON. GO AHEAD,
HOWARD.
>> IT AFTERNOON. HOWARD GALE.
OVER 156,000 SEATTLEITES WHO ARE
FOREIGN-BORN ARE NOW UNDER
IMMINENT THREAT IN AN AMERICA
WHERE SEATTLE IS HIGH IN THE
LIST OF CITIES THAT OUR FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WAS TO GO TO WAR
WITH. THOSE -- KIDNAPPING,
DETENTION OR DEPORTATION WILL
STILL FACE THE DAILY FEAR AND
TRAUMA FROM SIMPLE ROUTINE ACTS
LIKE GOING TO WORK, GOING
SHOPPING, TAKING THE CHILDREN TO
SCHOOL, GOING TO CHURCH, AND
ENJOYING CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS
FESTIVALS. NEVER KNOWING WHEN OR
WHERE THEY MIGHT BE ABDUCTED.
THEY AND THEIR LOVED ONES WILL
FACE LIFE ALTERING TRAUMAS. THE
QUESTION IS, IN THE COMING
YEARS, DO WE WANT TO END UP LIKE
THE AMERICANS OF THE 1940s WHO
CAN ONLY SAY, WE WERE GOOD, WE
DID NOT PARTAKE IN SENDING FOLKS
TO INTERNMENT CAMPS. OR DO WE
WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE DID
WHAT WE COULD TO PREVENT FOLKS
FROM BEING TAKEN ? UNDER SUCH
DIRE CIRCUMSTANCES THIS COUNSEL
IS SHAMEFULLY CONSIDERING
LEGISLATION TO INCREASE VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE, FURTHER
ENDANGERING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
FOLKS RATHER THAN CONSIDERING
LEGISLATION TO PROTECT.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS
CATHERINE. CATHERINE WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY KATIE GENTRY AND
FLORA WRIGHT. GO AHEAD,
CATHERINE.
>> HI, I'M CATHERINE. I'M A
RENTER IN DISTRICT 3 AND I'M
CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION
TO EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE. I
LIVE IN CAPITOL HILL AND
PREVIOUSLY THE CENTRAL DISTRICT,
THE PRIMARY AREAS -- BEING
PROPOSED. I'M OPPOSED TO THIS
PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT EXPANDS THE
POWERS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
AND WILL FURTHER DISCRIMINATION.
PERSONALLY, I DON'T WANT TO
LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS
CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE. IT FEELS
ESPECIALLY URGENT AS MANY PEOPLE
HAVE NOTED BECAUSE WE ARE --
VIOLENCE, INCLUDING ICE
ABDUCTIONS AND -- OUR OWN CITY
RECENTLY AS WELL . YOU CAN'T
TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE
ANTI- LGBTQ POLICE VIOLENCE AND
-- ARE AFFECTED. AND THE SHARING
OF DATA THROUGH THE WASHINGTON
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND
MEDICAID. WE CAN AFFORD RIGHT
NOW TO PUT ANY MORE POWER OR
TRUST IN THE HANDS OF THE POLICE
STATE. I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE
VOTE NO ON EXPANDING --
SURVEILLANCE. THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KATIE
GENTRY FOLLOWED BY FLORA WRIGHT.
GO AHEAD, KATIE.
>> MY NAME IS KATIE. I LIVE IN
D6. SURVEILLANCE AND POLICING DO
NOT KEEP US SAFE. THEY ACTUALLY
MAKE US MORE UNSAFE AND CAUSE
SIGNIFICANT HARM IN OUR
COMMITTEE. CIVIL LIBERTIES
GROUPS HAVE PROVED THAT
WASHINGTON PLEASE HAVE SHARED
SURVEILLANCE DATA WITH THE FEDS
. WE ARE IN A POLITICAL CLIMATE
NOW WHERE OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES
ARE ACTIVELY BEING VIOLATED. WE
DON'T NEED EMPTY WORDS WERE
FALSE PROMISES , OR SHALLOW
VALUES. WE NEED YOU TO TAKE BOLD
AND BRAVE ACTION TO CHALLENGE
THE STATUS QUO AND WHITES OF
PRIVACY, AND TO HOLD FIRM AND
VALUES FOR PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY CARE AND SUPPORT.
SHOWING THAT YOU ARE NOT
SUPPORTIVE OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. SHOWS THAT YOU
OPPOSE ICE IN KIDNAPPING OUR
NEIGHBORS. PROVE IT BY TAKING
ACTION NOW TO PROTECT OUR
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. VOTE NO ON
INCREASED SURVEILLANCE. WE DO
NOT WANT MORE SURVEILLANCE IN
OUR COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS FLORA WRIGHT. FLORA WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL WILL MARTH
AND THEN AIDEN CAROL. GO AHEAD,
FLORIDA. THERE YOU GO.
>> HELLO. HELLO. I'M A RESIDENT
OF DISTRICT 3 CALLING TO OPPOSE
EXPANSION OF MASS VIOLENCE. MORE
SURVEILLANCE HELPS TRUMP TARGET
SEATTLE'S LGBTQ, ABORTION
SEEKERS, AND EVERYONE'S RIGHT TO
PRIVACY. -- HAS BEEN USED
HUNDREDS OF TIMES TO HUNT
IMMIGRANTS AND -- ACCESS TO
NATIONWIDE SEARCHES THAT CAN
STILL MAKE DIRECT REQUESTS
THROUGH THE EMAIL SERVER WITHOUT
PUBLIC OVERSIGHT. MEANWHILE, THE
FEDS CAN TAKE CONTROL OF DISEASE
-- THE SAME COMPANY AS PD USES.
AS PD HAS A HISTORY OF ABUSING
SURVEILLANCE TO SPY ON PERSONS
IN 2020 AND STOCKING FOR
ROMANTIC PARTNERS. LAST MONTH
THEY USED CCTV TO RACIALLY
PROFILE INTEREST AN INNOCENT MAN
AND TELL HIM FOR A WEEK. NO
SIGNIFICANT EFFECTS OF OBSERVED
VIOLENT CRIME. -- RESEARCH --
RECENTLY CLAIMED THEY WERE DUPED
BY THE ATLANTIC -- BOARD MEMBER
THAT -- [ INAUDIBLE ] LISTEN TO
YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND VOTE NO.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL.
MICHAEL WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
AIDEN CAROL GO AHEAD, MICHAEL.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
MICHAEL. I'M A RENTER IN D3 AND
AM CALLING TO VOICE MY STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED
EXPANSION OF SPD SURVEILLANCE
CAPABILITIES. CRIMINALIZATION
DOESN'T MAKE US SAFER AND IT
FEELS PARTICULARLY MYOPIC TO
IMPLEMENT SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY WHEN JUST YESTERDAY
SUPREME COURT RULED IN FAVOR OF
LEAVING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT FOR
PROTECTING LOS ANGELES RESIDENTS
ON THE BASIS OF RACIAL
PROFILING. THIS MORNING THE
WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY SAID
THAT TRUMP WOULD LOVE TO SEND
ARMED TROOPS INTO EVERY DEMOCRAT
RUN CITY IN THE COUNTRY. WHAT DO
YOU THINK THESE TOOLS WILL BE
USED FOR AND BY WHOM? HOW DO YOU
THINK THEY WILL BE USED IN A
YEAR? WHAT EXACTLY WILL ANY OF
THIS KEEP SAFE? REALIZATION AND
SURVEILLANCE OF POOR PEOPLE ,
BLACK AND BROWN FOLKS OF
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, NONE OF
THIS DOES ANYTHING TO IMPROVE
SAFETY OR QUALITY OF LIFE. I
SADLY CANNOT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND
THINKING THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
START THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU CAN
LEVERAGE YOUR POSITION AND POWER
TO PROTECT VULNERABLE PEOPLE
LIVING IN THE CITY AND FIGHT
BACK. THANK YOU.
>> OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS
GROUP WILL BE AIDEN CAROL. GO
AHEAD, AIDEN.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> WE NEED TO REPAIR THE SOCIAL
FABRIC. THE CONCEPT THAT -- IS
AN OLD ONE. BUT IT IS THE BASIC
REALITY. WHEN WE SEE THAT
NEITHER POLICE NOR SURVEILLANCE
CAN PREVENT OR RESPOND TO CRIME.
THIS PROPOSAL WAS WRONG BEFORE
TRUMP. BUT IT SEEMS TO BE EXTRA
OBVIOUS NOW. I WOULD THINK WE
CAN POINT OUT, I'VE MOVED UP
THE LIST HERE BECAUSE A BUNCH OF
PEOPLE SEEMINGLY HAD TO GO BACK
TO WORK AND THE STALLING DID NOT
GO UNNOTICED. AND HE LED THE
ATTACK ON THE BLM GARDEN. I'M
SURE THAT AP AND CHRIS HAVE BEEN
VERY INVOLVED IN THE ATTACK ON
HOMELESSNESS IN THE LAST DECADE
TO THOUSANDS OF DEAD HOMELESS --
>> WE WILL MOVE BACK INTO IN
PERSON SPEAKERS. WE HAVE -- AND
CHARLOTTE. AND THEN COURTNEY.
>> MY NAME IS CALEB. I'M A
LOCAL UNITED METHODIST PASTOR
HERE IN KING COUNTY AND I'M
HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF SOME
OF MY FELLOW FAITH LEADERS IN
MIGRANT COMMUNITIES. AS A PASTOR
I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF
WALKING ALONGSIDE AND PROVIDING
PASTORAL CARE FOR MIGRANT
COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT KING
COUNTY. THESE COMMUNITIES ARE
ALREADY DEEPLY FEARFUL ABOUT THE
RISK OF BEING DETAINED AND
DENIED DUE PROCESS. AS WE GO
THROUGH THE GROCERY STORE , AS
THEY WALKED THEIR CHILDREN TO
SCHOOL, AS THEY GO TO WORK OR
EVEN GO TO CHURCH. HOW MUCH MORE
FEEL FULL WILL THEY BE KNOWING
THAT THERE IS INCREASED
SURVEILLANCE THROUGHOUT SEATTLE
THAT COULD BE USED TO TARGET
THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES ? AS A
PASTOR AND A PERSON OF FAITH , I
TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY SEATTLE'S
VALUE OF PROVIDING SANCTUARY AND
I URGE YOU TO ALSO TAKE THIS
VALUE SERIOUSLY BY DELAYING THE
SURVEILLANCE PILOT PROGRAM UNTIL
IT CAN BE PROPERLY EVALUATED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> AFTER CHARLOTTE WE HAVE
COURTNEY.
>> I JUST WANT TO TELL A STORY
ABOUT LIKE IN ORANGE COUNTY ,
THE HOME DEPOT CAMERAS . THEY
ARE BEING USED TO HELP ICE .
WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN OUR
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE
SEEKING -- SEEING LOCAL OFFICERS
COLLUDING WITH ICE. LIKE THE
CALLER SAID, HIS PROFILING
PEOPLE . EVEN THOUGH THE SUPREME
COURT DID NOT SUPPORT THE LOWER
COURT RULING WE KNOW THAT IT IS
NOT RIGHT AND WE STILL HAVE TO
DO THE RIGHT THING. WE ARE
ESSENTIALLY CITY AND WE HAVE TO
HAVE A STANCE OF NONCOOPERATION.
WHY ARE WE MAKING THINGS EASIER
FOR PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW WANT TO
HURT OUR COMMUNITY? I THINK THAT
WE WANT TO GET READY FOR BEING
INVADED BY THE NATIONAL
GOVERNMENT.
>> WE NOW HAVE COURTNEY. AFTER
COURTNEY WILL BE EMMY .
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS,
I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 3.
I'M ON THE 43rd BORDER RECORDS,
SPEAKING OF MY PERSONAL -- I'M
OPPOSING THE EXPANSION OF --
CRIME CENTER. THE SCALE OF THE
EXPANSION IS CONCERNING. I AGREE
WITH MOST OF MY FELLOW PUBLIC
COMMENTERS HERE TODAY. WE SEE
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
IGNORING THE LAWS ON INK AND
PAPER. I DON'T TRUST THEM TO
NOT SCRAPE THE DATA. I DON'T
TRUST THEM TO NOT INTERFERE WITH
THE DATA COLLECTION . SEATTLE IS
ALREADY ON THE WATCHLIST FOR THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AGAIN, WHY
ARE WE MAKING IT EASIER? BOB
KETTLE, BOB SAKA, YOU'RE BOTH
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WERE CAPABLE
OF AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE
CAPABLE OF NOW? OR ARE YOU DOING
THIS TO US? HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE
OPPOSING THIS?
>> THANK YOU.
>> FOLLOWING EMMY WILL BE --
>> A FORMER MEMBER OF THE
COMMUNITY TASK FORCE AND LEGAL
SYSTEM REALIGNMENT THAT WAS
TASKED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION
TO CITY COUNCIL. THE
RECOMMENDATION REMAINED ABOUT
FOUR YEARS AGO WAS TO USE
EXTREME CAUTION ON THE USE OF
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND
ALGORITHMIC -- THEY WILL HAVE A
DISPARATE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON
COMMITTEES OF COLOR AND OTHER
MARGINALIZED COMMITTEES. THE
RECOGNITION SOUGHT BY THE
COUNCIL, WITH WHICH WE SPENT A
WHOLE YEAR DELIBERATING IN
EARNEST, THIS COUNSEL SEEMED TO
BE RUSHING TOWARD A FURTHER
EXPANSION OF CRIMINALIZATION
TECH WITHOUT EVEN INVESTIGATING
ITS EFFICACY OR HARMS . AT THE
VERY MOMENT THE FEDERAL FORCES
ARE FORCED TO STEP IN AND
OVERRIDE LOCAL LAWS AND POLICIES
PROTECTING IMMIGRANTS AND OTHER
MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE. THE
STAKE CANNOT BE HIGHER. ASK THE
COUNCIL TO WAIT ON THE
SURVEILLANCE BILLS UNTIL STUDIES
HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED FOR THE PROS
AND CONS. AND THROUGH THE COURTS
TO SEEK OUT LIMITED EXECUTIVE
POWER AND --
>> WE HAVE JEFF AND THEN DAVID.
>> JEFF , THEN DAVID, THE
NICOLE. I CAN'T READ THE LAST
NAME. IT STARTS WITH A B.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? HI THERE. MY
NAME IS JEFF. I CONTINUOUSLY
COME TO THESE THINGS TO
HOPEFULLY SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT
WHAT FEELS IMPORTANT TO THE
CITY. I HAVE LIVED IN THE
CENTRAL DISTRICT AND I SPENT A
LOT OF TIME IN CID. THERE'S A
LOT GOING ON, THERE'S A LOT OF
BUSINESS . I LIVE IN THE CENTRAL
DISTRICT , SPECIFICALLY THE MOST
CRIME I SEE IS PEOPLE SPEEDING
DOWN 23rd. AND I DON'T THINK
YOU'RE GOING TO CATCH ANYTHING
ON CAMERA. IT JUST SEEMS SO
BACKWARD TO INSTALL CAMERAS IN
WHAT IS OTHERWISE A PRETTY
PEACEFUL, RESIDENTIAL AREA. I
THINK THERE'S A STREET CAMERA
RIGHT OUTSIDE OF MY SUBSIDIZED
HOUSING THAT PRETTY MUCH JUST
LOOKS IN MY WINDOW. I CAN
ACTUALLY SEE THE SAME THINGS
IT'S SEEING AND I HAVEN'T SEEN
A SINGLE THING THAT'S
CONCERNING. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT
IS THE AMOUNT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE
THAT ARE GOING TO BE ROLLED UP
INTO THIS AND PUT ON A STRAIGHT
PATH TO THE PRISON SYSTEM.
>> IT'S DAVID, THEN IT'S
NICOLE. AND THEN BJ LAST.
>> MY NAME IS DAVID. I'M ASKING
YOU TO OPPOSE THE SURVEILLANCE
PROPOSAL. FIRSTLY, THANK YOU TO
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK FOR HAVING
OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS
DEMONSTRATE TO YOUR FELLOW
COUNCILMEMBERS HOW DAMAGING
FORCING THIS THERE WOULD BE. IT
SHOULD GIVE PAUSE TO ANY
COUNCILMEMBERS CLAIMING TO CARE
ABOUT THE WELL-BEING OF THE CITY
AND ITS CITIZENS. A FASCIST
AUTHORITARIAN IS CREATING A
POLICE AND SURVEILLANCE STATE
THAT WAS CREATED BY BOTH
POLITICAL PARTIES AND THIS
COUNSEL IS TRYING TO PUSH
THROUGH A SORT OF DIET PROPOSAL.
I.C.E. AGENTS HAVE ALREADY SHOWN
AN ABILITY TO SIDESTEP SANCTUARY
CITY PROTECTIONS AND WASHINGTON
AGENCIES, LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF
LICENSING, HAVE ALREADY
COLLABORATED WITH I.C.E.. I.C.E.
IS ALREADY ABDUCTING OUR
NEIGHBORS AND THESE ASSAULTS
WILL ONLY INTENSIFY AS FASCISM
BECOMES MORE ENTRENCHED DUE TO
BODIES LIKE THIS FAILING TO MEET
THE MOMENT. AS THE ACLU AND MANY
ORGANIZATIONS AND SPEAKERS HAVE
POINTED OUT, SURVEILLANCE DOES
NOT REDUCE CRIME. YOUR STRIPPING
PEOPLE OF THEIR RIGHTS TO
PRIVACY. THIS WILL
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT MY
NEIGHBORS, MY ON HOUSE NEIGHBORS
SUFFER DAILY. THE CITY HAS
FAILED TO BOTH LISTEN TO AND
ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NICOLE?
>> AFTER NICOLE IT WILL BE BJ
AND THEN --
>> IT AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
NICOLE. EARLIER YOU SAID OUR
PARKS ARE OUR COMMENTS. IT'S
WHERE WE GO FOR SOLITUDE. I GO
TO THEM FOR COMMUNITY. -- WHAT
WE CAN BE AS A CITY TOGETHER. I
MOVED TO SEATTLE 11 YEARS AGO.
I'VE NEVER BEEN TO CITY HALL
UNTIL YESTERDAY. AND NOW AGAIN
TODAY. TO CARRY A MESSAGE TO
YOU. OUR MESSAGE. SEATTLE HAS A
P PROBLEM. PEOPLE POINTING -- TO
PART FROM PREVIOUSLY SAFE
SPACES. I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND
THE EFFECT OF CONSTANT CAMERAS
THAT THEY CAN HAVE ON COMMUNITY.
I HAVE HEARD HOW SEATTLE USERS
FEEL LESS WELCOME IN THEIR
FAVORITE PLACE TO COMMUNE . I
HAVE TALKED TO THE I.C.E. CREAM
VENDORS WHOSE SALES ARE DOWN DUE
TO LESS PEDESTRIANS . TODAY'S
VOTE WILL NOT REFLECT ON YOU
LATELY. WILL YOU ALIGN YOURSELF
PUBLICLY WITH THE FASCIST REGIME
SWEEPING OUR NATION OR REALIGN
SEATTLE WITH OTHER INTERNATIONAL
CITIES INVESTING IN UPLIFTING
THE VERY COMMUNITIES THIS VOTE
WOULD HARM? VOTE NO.
>> THANK YOU.
>> BJ . AFTER BJ WILL BE -- AND
THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO ONLINE
SPEAKERS PICK
>> I'M HERE SPEAKING AGAINST
THE EXPANSION OF CCTV. I WANT TO
WAIT -- MAKE ONE THING CLEAR.
COUNCIL MEMBERS KEEP SAYING THAT
CCTV FOOTAGE IS ONLY STORED FOR
FIVE DAYS. THAT IS GROSSLY
INCORRECT. IT ALLOWS IT TO BE
STORED FOR 30 DAYS. CLAIMING IT
IS FIVE IS MISLEADING THE
PUBLIC. IF YOU WANT IT TO BE
FIVE YOU CAN AMEND THE BILL
TODAY TO CHANGE IT TO FIVE.
OTHERWISE, STOP MISLEADING THE
PUBLIC. NEXT, PEOPLE HAVE TALKED
ABOUT THIS DATA GETTING USED BY
I.C.E. AND IMMIGRATION
ENFORCEMENT. WE KNOW THAT. SPD
HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH
I.C.E.. THEY ATTACK PEOPLE WHO
ARE TRYING TO PREVENT I.C.E.
FROM KIDNAPPING SOMEONE TO MAKE
SURE I.C.E. COULD . AMENDMENT A
EVEN SPECIFIES THAT SEATTLE
WORKS WITH THE FEDERAL
IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES ON
CRIMINAL MATTERS. WE KNOW HOW
THIS PLAYS OUT. I.C.E. JUST ASKS
FOR INFORMATION, SWEARING AT
SOMETHING CRIMINAL, AND SPD
HANDS IT OVER TO THEM. THERE IS
NOTHING AGAINST THAT HAPPENING.
SURVEILLANCE IS IN SAFETY. WE
HAVE OVER 20 YEARS OF STUDIES.
AND IF IT WAS, THIS WOULD BE
GOING TO BALLARD, -- NOT THE
CID.
>> WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER AND
THEN WE WILL GO TO ANOTHER
SPEAKER. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> HI, I AM A RESIDENT WORKER
AND HISTORIAN IN THE CHINATOWN
INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. I OPPOSE
THE EXPANSION OF THE
SURVEILLANCE NETWORK. YOU PUT 20
CAMERAS ON NEARLY EVERY
INTERSECTION IN THE CID. PEOPLE
CAN ENTER OR LEAVE THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT BEING
SURVEILLED. YOU DID THIS TO A
POOR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT
REMEMBERS THE RACIST
SURVEILLANCE OF THE 20th CENTURY
WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SURVEILLED
JAPANESE-AMERICANS BEFORE
SENDING THEM TO CONCENTRATION
CAMPS AND THE COPS HAD BOOKS OF
CHINESE MUG SHOTS TO PROFILE AND
JUSTIFY POLICE VIOLENCE.
SURVEILLANCE AND POLICING DOES
NOT MAKE MY COMMUNITY SAFE. IN
FACT, YOU'RE ACTIVELY PUTTING
US IN HARMS WAY. BECAUSE THE
CCTV DATA IS NOT STORED IN
WASHINGTON OUR IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITY IS BEING PUT AT RISK
OF I.C.E. THE SURVEILLANCE
EXPANSION ROLLS OUT THE RED
CARPET FOR I.C.E. TO KIDNAP OUR
FAMILIES, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
DO WE NOT DESERVE SAFETY? THESE
DO NOT EXPAND THE SURVEILLANCE
NETWORK TODAY OR EVER.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT REMOTE
SPEAKERS WILL BE -- KAISER.
>> A REMINDER TO PLEASE, JAZZ
HANDS, SNAPS BETWEEN SPEAKERS,
BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE
SIGNED UP AND WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE
TO SPEAK AND THAT WE PROCEED IN
A WAY THAT RESPECTS EVERYBODY'S
TIME AND COMMENT. THANK YOU. GO
AHEAD, JODI PICK
>> YES. AND I WILL REMIND THE
REMOTE SPEAKERS TO PRESS STAR 6
WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR MESSAGE. OUR
NEXT THREE REMOTE SPEAKERS ARE
KAISER, ALLEGRA, AND HANNAH. GO
AHEAD.
>> HI. I AM A CITIZEN OF
DISTRICT 3 REPRESENTED BY
COUNSEL FOR HOLLINGSWORTH AND I
WANT TO AVOID THE EXPANSION OF
CCTV AND [ INAUDIBLE ] WE
ALREADY LIVE UNDER THE
SURVEILLANCE STATE WHERE PEOPLE
HAVE ACCESS TO OUR TRAFFIC CAM
FOOTAGE AND USE IT TO TRACK
PEOPLE. [ INAUDIBLE ] IT IS NOT
A HYPOTHETICAL MISUSE, IT'S
HAPPENING NOW, TODAY. AND
EXPANDING THE STUDENTS EFFORT
THAT ALLOWS I.C.E. TO FUNCTION
AND PUTTING ANY OF THAT DATA IN
A CLOUD SERVICE IS THE LAST
THING WE SHOULD BE DOING. WE
SHOULD RESTRICT THE USE OF
TECHNOLOGY SO THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND OTHER STATES
CANNOT USE THEM AGAINST
VULNERABLE PEOPLE. YOU HAVE A
RESPONSE BUILDING AN OPPORTUNITY
TO PROTECT OUR PRIVACY AND
SAFETY IN THIS MOMENT. THAT'S
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO RISE TO
THE OCCASION. LIKE MOST OF THE
PEOPLE HERE, RIGHT NOW THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT THREAT TO THE
SANCTUARY CITY IS FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS ALLEGRA FOLLOWED BY HANNAH
JONES. GO AHEAD.
>> MY NAME IS ALLEGRA. SEATTLE
DISTRICT 7. [ INAUDIBLE ] LET'S
CONSIDER WHO ELSE OPPOSES THIS
TO URGE THE COUNCIL TALL THE
PILOT PROGRAM. IN THE CITY THE
OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS REPORT
HAS SAID RESEARCH HAS NOT
DEMONSTRATED THE SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGIES REDUCE PERSISTENT
FELONIES AND VIOLENT CRIMES. THE
WORKING GROUP [ INAUDIBLE ] THE
SALE RENTERS COMMISSION AND THE
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION
STATES THAT THE COMMUNITY
NUMBERS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY
AGAINST EXPANSION AND IMMEDIATE
CONCERNS OF ACTORS OUTSIDE OF
THE CITY, LIKE I SAID, THIS
USING SURVEILLANCE INFORMATION.
THE CITY IS REACHING ITS
COMMITMENT TO SCRUTINIZE
SURVEILLANCE, AND THE IMPACT ON
CIVIL RIGHTS DURING A TWO-YEAR
PILOT FOR CONTINUATION OR
EXPANSION. IN ADDITION, OVER 60
COMMITTEE GROUPS OPPOSE,
INCLUDING THE ACLU OF WASHINGTON
WHO HAD THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
HAS RUSHED THE DECISION.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS HANNAH JONES, WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY NICO . AND THEN
ASHLEY FORD. GO AHEAD, HANNAH.
HANNAH, HE PRESSED STAR 6 ?
OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO
NICO, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
ASHLEY FORD. GO AHEAD, NICO.
OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO ASHLEY
FORD, FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE. GO
AHEAD, ASHLEY FORD .
>> [ INAUDIBLE ] EARLIER THIS
YEAR MOST OF YOU TOOK QUICK
ACTION TO SIGN ONTO AN ORDINANCE
DECLARING SEATTLE TO BE A
WELCOMING CITY FOR LGBTQ PEOPLE
AND FOR GENDER AFFIRMING CARE.
SO WE KNOW THAT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION IS COMING FOR
PEOPLE. YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS COMING
FOR SEATTLE. WE ARE TAKING STEPS
TO COLLECT INFORMATION IS GOING
TO PUT US IN HARMS WAY.
SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AT ALL
WELCOMING. I REALLY NEED YOU ALL
TO UNDERSTAND THAT TO AND
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES THIS IS
NOT PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS DATA
COLLECTION THAT'S GOING TO BE
WESTERNIZED AGAINST US. IF THE
FEDERAL ADMINISTERED AND KEEPS
HEADING IN THE DIRECTION THAT
IS. AND WE KNOW THAT IT PROBABLY
WILL. YOU CAN SEE THAT
WASHINGTON HAS LAWS IN PLACE TO
PROTECT US FROM THIS PEER BUT
THE FACT IS, WE KNOW THESE LAWS
DON'T PROTECT US AS MUCH AS WE
ONCE THOUGHT. THESE DON'T DO
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THE JOB
FOR THEM. THESE PROTECT OUR
CIVIL RIGHTS AND DELAY THIS
EXPANSION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS STEPHANIE FILARDI, FOLLOWED
BY EDITH EVERGREEN AND THEN
SCOTT STERNBERG. GO AHEAD,
STEPHANIE.
>> HI. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE AND
I WORK AT PRENATAL SUPPORT
WASHINGTON WHERE WE SUPPORT
FAMILIES NAVIGATING THE
CHALLENGES OF NEW PARENT. --
FOUNDATION NONPROFITS PROMOTE
THE DIGNITY AND RESPECT OF LGBTQ
PLUS WITHIN THE LEGAL SYSTEM. WE
STAND IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO
ANY EXPANSION OF PUBLIC
SURVEILLANCE IN OUR CITY. WE ARE
ALREADY FACING EXTERNAL
PRESSURES. -- LIVE IN A SOCIETY
[ INAUDIBLE ] INCREASING
SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT MAKE THEM
SAFER. IT -- [ INAUDIBLE ]
STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE IN A
SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT YOU
IS NOT CRIMINAL. BUT
SURVEILLANCE REINFORCES THOSE
NARRATIVES. IT INCREASES FEAR
AND DETERS PEOPLE FROM CARE AND
[ INAUDIBLE ] WE CANNOT BE
COMPLICIT IN BUILDING SYSTEMS
THAT MONITOR RATHER THAN
NURTURE.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS EDITH
EVERGREEN, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED
BY SCOTT STERNBERG. GO AHEAD,
EDITH. EDITH, YOU MAY NEED TO
PRESS STAR 6. OKAY. GO AHEAD,
EDITH. I SEE YOU.
>> OKAY. I LIVED IN SEATTLE FOR
OVER 50 YEARS . I STRONGLY URGE
THE COUNCIL TO VOTE NO ON THE
EXPANSION FOR THOSE CAMERAS. I
BELIEVE THEY ARE A VIOLATION OF
AMERICAN CITIZEN RIGHT TO
PRIVACY. THE CREEPING NATURE OF
SURVEILLANCE MAPS A CONSTANT AND
VIGILANT OBSERVATION OF
LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS WITH NO
FUTURE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE
CITY [ INAUDIBLE ] I'VE BEEN
TOLD THERE IS A BUDGET DEFICIT
AND PROGRAMS FOR THOSE IN NEED
HAVE BEEN CUT. I DON'T SEE HOW
THE CITY COUNCIL CAN JUSTIFY THE
FUNDS NECESSARY FOR THIS
PROJECT. THE DATA DOES NOT
SUPPORT -- GIVEN BY THE SEATTLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT DO NOT JUSTIFY
THE USE OF SURVEILLANCE CAMERA
OF LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS SCOTT STERNBERG. SCOTT WILL
BE FOLLOWED BY JESSICA
CASTELLANOS AND THEN LIZ
WALTERS. GO AHEAD, SCOTT. SCOTT,
PLEASE PRESS STAR 6.
>> HELLO?
>> HELLO.
>> I OPPOSE THE SURVEILLANCE AND
ASK EACH OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS
TO REJECT THIS PROPOSED
EXPANSION. MY NAME IS SCOTT
STERNBERG OF BEACON HILL.,
PUBLIC HEALTH RESEARCHER AND A
FAMILY THERAPIST. I BRING THAT
BACKGROUND TO MY STANCE HERE.
SURVEILLANCE IS A TOOL OF SOCIAL
OPPRESSION AND STATE VIOLENCE.
SURVEILLANCE IS USED TO
CRIMINALIZE COMMUNITIES,
PARTICULARLY MARGINALIZED
COMMUNITIES, AND CREATE PRETEXT
TO ARREST, INCARCERATE , DEPORT
, KIDNAP AND DISAPPEAR PEOPLE.
THESE DANGERS WERE HIGHLIGHTED
BY MANY IN PUBLIC COMMENTS
PREVIOUSLY WHEN THE PILOT
PROJECT USING THESE TOOLS WAS
FIRST PROPOSED. HOWEVER, YOU,
THE COUNCIL, IGNORED IT AND
VOTED TO APPROVE THE PILOT. I
ASK THAT YOU AGAIN VOTE NO. THE
RESEARCH DEMONSTRATES , OVER AND
OVER, THAT CCTV DOES NOT --
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JESSICA
CASTELLANOS , FOLLOWED BY LIZ
WALTERS AND THEN CODY D. GO
AHEAD, JESSICA.
>> IT AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBER'S. MY NAME IS JESSICA
CASTELLANOS. I'M SPEAKING AS A
SEATTLE DISTRICT TO RESIDENT AND
MANAGING DIRECTOR OF KIDS NEEDED
DEFENSE, WHICH PROVIDES SERVICES
TO UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN IN OUR
CITY. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON
EXPANDING THE SURVEILLANCE PILOT
. EXPANDING JUST THREE MONTHS IN
THE EVALUATION IS PREMATURE AND
DANGEROUS. THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TRIED TO UNLAWFULLY
DEPORT GUATEMALAN CHILDREN IN
FEDERAL CUSTODY AND WARNED OF
MORE INVOLUNTARY -- IMPACTING
CHILDREN IN WASHINGTON. SALES
CONTRACT ONLY INCREASES THE
RISKS WITHOUT SAFEGUARD
SENSITIVE DATA IS VULNERABLE.
SALE NEEDS TO LIVE UP TO ITS
VALUES AS A WELCOMING CITY.
THESE POSITIVE EXPANSION AND
PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE
RESIDENTS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS LIZ WALTERS, FOLLOWED BY CODY
D AND CHAPMAN. GO AHEAD, LIZ.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS LIZ
WALTERS. I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL
TO REJECT THE PROPOSED CCTV
EXPANSION. FOR MY EXPENSE AS A
CASE MANAGER -- AND CENTRAL
DISTRICT RESIDENT. THERE ARE
DANGEROUS INTENTIONS FOR SP AND
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USE
SURVEILLANCE FOUR. EXPANDING
SURVEILLANCE WOULD BE A GRAVE
MISUSE OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES
THAT COULD INSTEAD BE USED TO
ASHLEY PREVENT THE CRIME AND
SURVEILLANCE TO ADDRESS.
SURVEILLANCE DOESN'T STOP
CRIME, SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT
PREVENT CRIME. PREVENT CRIME BY
ENDING POVERTY, HUNGER,
HOMELESSNESS AND VARIOUS FORMS
OF SOCIETAL NEGLECT. EXPANSION
OF SURVEILLANCE IN OUR CITY ONLY
-- HYPER PLACING POOR PEOPLE AND
PEOPLE OF COLOR. AGAIN, THIS
WILL NOT STOP CRIME. EACH AND
EVERY ONE OF YOU KNOWS WHAT
STOPS CRIME. FEED PEOPLE, HOUSE
PEOPLE, GIVE PEOPLE JOBS , GIVE
PEOPLE MEDICAID, EXPAND PUBLIC
TRANSIT AND MAKE IT FREE. GIVE
PEOPLE SOMETHING TO DO WITH
THEIR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS CODY D, FOLLOWED BY OUR LAST
REMOTE SPEAKER IN THIS GROUP,
CHAPMAN. GO AHEAD, CODY.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS CODY. I AM
DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
PROPOSED INCREASE IN
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND HOW
IT WILL DEEPLY, NEGATIVELY
IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. I'M
ASKING THAT WE DO NOT EXPAND
CITY SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND
INSTEAD INVEST IN MORE EFFECTIVE
PROGRAMS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF
THE CITY . MANY PEOPLE IN
SEATTLE, DESPITE THEIR OWN BEST
EFFORTS AND THE EFFORTS OF THEIR
NEIGHBORS, ARE STILL LACKING
ADEQUATE SHELTER, FOOD, MEDICAL
CARE AND OTHER ESSENTIAL BASIC
NEEDS . THE CITY WILL BE
INVESTING INEFFICIENTLY IN THEIR
COMMUNITY'S BY PUTTING MORE
RESOURCES INTO SURVEILLANCE
WHILE PEOPLE STILL SUFFER WHILE
THEY LIVE WITHOUT WHAT THEY NEED
TO SURVIVE , THRIVE AND EVEN
DIE. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN
INCREASED SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT
ACTUALLY DECREASE VIOLENT CRIME.
ALTHOUGH, IT WOULD MAKE
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS EVEN MORE
VULNERABLE TO EXPLOITATION AND
HARM BY THOSE WHO HAVE
ILLEGITIMATE ACTIONS OR USAGE OF
THIS INFORMATION WITH THESE
PROPOSED CHANGES. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR LAST REMOTE
SPEAKER FOR THIS GROUP IS KAREN.
PLEASE PRESS STAR 6. HELLO.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS KAREN. I
OPPOSE THE ADDITIONAL CCTV
SURVEILLANCE . I AM ANXIOUS AND
SO MY WORDS MIGHT COME OUT A
LITTLE BIT GARBLED. I WOULD URGE
YOU TO REFLECT ON HOW THIS CALL
AND MEETING HAS GONE SO FAR. I
DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYONE HAS
BEEN IN APPROVAL OF THIS SO FAR.
SO I WOULD REALLY URGE YOU TO
LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN YOUR
COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.
>> WE WILL GO BACK TO IN PERSON
SPEAKERS. WE WILL START WITH SUE
CADE, JOE FOX AND THEN --
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS SUE. I AM 80
YEARS IN SEATTLE NOW. JUST HAD
MY BIRTHDAY. I AM HERE
REPRESENTING THE CID COMMUNITY .
I AM A MEMBER OF THE CID
COALITION. ALSO KNOWN AS -- NOT
HOTELS. I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN
THAT OUR COMMUNITY GOES WAY
BACK. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF
DESTRUCTION. NOW WAS NOT THE
TIME TO PUT IN SURVEILLANCE
CAMERAS. WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER
PRESSING NEEDS. WE NEED HOUSING
. LIKE MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID,
LAKE -- LET'S MAKE THIS AN
AMAZING SEATTLE. I'VE GROWN UP
HERE FOR 80 YEARS. I GRADUATED
FROM GARFIELD. NOT JUST THE CID
BUT ALL OF SEATTLE . LET'S
CANCEL THE SURVEILLANCE.
>> WE HAVE JOAN AND THEN CROW.
>> HI. THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR
COMMENTS, SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL.
I AM JOAN. I'M GOING TO SPEAK
IN MY PERSONAL CAPACITY AS A
TRANS PERSON. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE
SEEN THE TRUMP DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE LABEL MY COMMUNITY AS
MENTALLY DEFECTIVE AS A WAY OF
TRYING TO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHTS.
AS SOMEBODY WHO WORKS DIRECTLY
WITH TRANS REFUGEES WHO FLED TO
THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE
PERSECUTION THEY FACE BY OUR
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT , AND IN
CITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND
STATES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY ,
THIS EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE
WOULD DIRECTLY PUT THEM AT RISK.
RIGHT NOW I HAVE HELD THEM IN MY
ARMS AS THEY HAVE CRIED. AS THEY
HAVE FELT SCARED. COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE, I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO
KEEP PEOPLE SAFER. BUT THIS IS
NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. THIS WILL
PUT MY COMMUNITY AT RISK . IT
WILL PUT THE MOST VULNERABLE
MEMBERS OF OUR CITY IN HARM'S
WAY. I KNOW THAT'S NOT YOUR
INTENTION AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A
CHANCE TO CHANGE YOUR MIND.
THANK YOU.
>> WE NOW HAVE CROW. AFTER CROW
WILL BE BRENT LEPPERT AND THEN
DAN HOUSE.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS CROW AND I
AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 4. I
AM HERE TO URGE YOU TO VOTE NO
TO EXPAND THE SURVEILLANCE OF
SPD'S CCTV CAMERAS. I.C.E. CAN
AND WILL GAIN ACCESS TO THIS
SURVEILLANCE . AFTER THE RECENT
SUPREME COURT RULING THEY WILL
USE THE CCTV FOOTAGE FOR MORE
RACIAL PROFILING AND RACIAL
TARGETING OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE
POPULATIONS. SEATTLE IS KNOWN
ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS A CENTURY
CITY FOR IMMIGRANTS AND FOR
THOSE SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE CARE,
FOR THOSE SEEKING GENDER FORMING
CARE, AND APPROVING THIS
EXPANSION WOULD PUT ALL OF THESE
COMMUNITIES IN HARM'S WAY. AND
I'M URGING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST
IT. THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE --
>> HI, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM
BRENT LAMPERT. I JUST MOVED BACK
TO THE CENTRAL DISTRICT A FEW
WEEKS AGO AFTER SPENDING TWO
YEARS IN D.C., WHERE HE WORKED
FOR THE WHITE HOUSE UNDER BOTH
BIDEN AND TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION'S. I'M NOT
AGAINST SURVEILLANCE AND GENERAL
ALL THE TIME. I WORKED IN
NATIONAL SECURITY. I UNDERSTAND
THAT SOMETIMES IT IS NEEDED. I
DO NOT TRUST THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION TO NOT GO AFTER
THIS DATA . AND I DON'T THINK
THAT WE SHOULD PURSUE IT UNTIL
THERE IS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT
HOW YOU ARE GOING TO PROTECT
SEATTLE FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WHEN THEY DO COME
AFTER US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR TIME.
>> HI. MY NAME IS DAN HOUSE. I
LIVE IN DISTRICT 5 AND I WORK IN
DISTRICT 6. EXPANDING VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE WILL NOT MAKE THE
CITY SAFER . ON MY WAY HERE
TODAY I WAS WAITING FOR THE BUS
, AND AS HAPPENS SOMETIMES IN
THE CITY, I WAS ACCOSTED BY ONE
OF MY ON HOUSE TO NEIGHBORS WHO
IS EXPERIENCING ADDICTION. IT
WAS UPSETTING AND IT MADE ME
FEEL UNSAFE. HOWEVER, I KNOW
THAT EXPANDING VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE WOULD NOT PREVENT
INCIDENTS LIKE THIS. WHAT WILL
PREVENT THAT IS SPENDING OUR
LIMITED RESOURCES ON HOUSING ,
ON ADDICTION TREATMENT, MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT AND EXPANDING
VIDEO SURVEILLANCE WILL MAKE THE
CITY LESS SAFE. IT WILL MAKE ALL
OF US LESS SAFE . ESPECIALLY OUR
IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS, OUR ON
HOUSE TO NEIGHBORS AND OUR TRANS
NEIGHBORS. AND PEOPLE SEEKING
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH. I URGE YOU
, IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE
TERMS, TO VOTE NO ON THESE
BILLS. THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE CHRIS LITTLE HOUSE
AND THEN BILL CLIFFORD AND
CAROLINE.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS CHRIS
ROJAS. I HAVE WORKED IN COMPUTER
VISION FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. AS
AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD OF
COMPUTER VISION AND I'M HERE TO
WARN YOU THAT IT IS ESPECIALLY
DANGEROUS AT THIS POINT IN
HISTORY TO TURN SEATTLE INTO A
MESS SURVEILLANCE STATE. WITH
THE ADDITIONAL PROPOSED CCTV
CAMERAS. THE TECHNOLOGY USED TO
BE ABLE TO TRACK THE MOVEMENT OF
EVERYONE , AND TO BE ABLE TO
ROLL THAT BACK IN TIME TO
DETERMINE WHERE ANYONE HAS BEEN
FOR THE LAST HOWEVER LONG IT WAS
DEVELOPED AND TESTED AS A TOOL
OF WAR IN IRAQ. AND WHAT THE
THEY DO WITH THE TECHNOLOGY
AFTER IT WAS DONE WITH THE WAR?
THEY BROUGHT IT TO U.S. CITIES
IN 2016 AND THE ACLU TOLD POLICE
TO STOP USING IT. SEATTLE IS A
LIBERAL STRONGHOLD WHO HAS
ROUTINELY STOOD UP TO TRUMP.
THEY WANT TO INSTALL A TOOL OF
WAR AGAINST ITS PEOPLE? A MESS
SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM THAT CAN BE
TAKEN OVER BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO TARGET ANYONE,
LIKE THE GOVERNOR, THE MAYOR,
THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU. DO NOT
INSTALL.
>> WE HAVE BILL CLIFFORD AND
THEN CAROLINE MUELLER. IS BILL
HERE? AND THEN CAROLINE MUELLER
AND GARRETT JOHNSON.
>> AND PEOPLE LINE UP OR SPEAK
FOR THE PERSON FRONT ME?
>> IS REALLY HARD TO HEAR THE
NAMES OUT THERE.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR LETTING
US KNOW. CAN YOU TALK LOUDER?
TURN YOUR MIKE UP.
>> ESSENTIALLY COMMENTS THIS
MORNING BY EMAIL. SO NOT GOING
TO GO OVER THEM AGAIN. I FEEL
LIKE I MADE SOME GOOD POINTS
ABOUT THE MENTAL IMPACT OF
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE THAT'S
GOING TO BE USED IN THIS. IT
GOES AGAINST THE DECARBONIZATION
GOALS OF SEATTLE. I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT TWO THINGS THAT HAPPENED ,
PERSONALLY, TO ME. I MOVED INTO
THE GARFIELD NOVA TARGET AREA IN
1979. I KNOW KIDS HAVE BEEN
SHOT. I KNOW KIDS HAVE DONE THE
SHOOTING. I ALSO WORKED IN USE
DIVERSION FOR A WHILE. AND I CAN
TELL YOU, ALL THOSE KIDS WILL
TESTIFY THAT A CAMERA DOESN'T
STOP AN ANGRY, SCARED OR
ALIENATED KID WITH A GUN OR POOR
IMPULSE CONTROL FROM SHOOTING.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES. I
ALSO DROVE FOR METRO FOR 36
YEARS. AFTER MARK McLAUGHLIN WAS
SHOT IN 1988. WE HAD VIDEO
CAMERAS BUT THEY PROMISED THEY
NEVER USE THEM FOR DISCIPLINE.
OUR CURRENT NEWSLETTER SAYS THEY
ARE PLAYING VIDEO 6000 TIMES A
YEAR FOR MINOR COMPLAINTS.
>> PLEASE CALL THE NEXT FOUR
PEOPLE . IF WE QUIET PEOPLE IN
BETWEEN SPEAKING WE CAN HEAR THE
NAMES SHE IS CALLING. WE NEED TO
PICK UP THE PACE OF THIS A
LITTLE BIT BY SHORTENING THE
TIME IN BETWEEN SPEAKERS.
>> THE LAST THREE SPEAKERS IN
THIS SET ARE CAROLINE MUELLER,
GERRIT JOHNSON AND --
>> HI, CITY COUNCIL., RESIDENT
OF DISTRICT 2. HI, MARK SOLOMON.
I COME TO YOU TODAY AS A MEMBER
OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IS DEEPLY
CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF
CCTV. SEE, I'M A SCIENTIST BY
TRADE. WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING
OUT EXPERIMENTS I USE KNOWN
DATA. I PRIORITIZE AREAS THAT
ARE SHOWN STATISTICALLY TO HAVE
THE HIGHEST LIKELIHOOD OF
SUCCESS. THE 2019 STUDY OF CCTV
BY J JOHN COLLEGE OF CRIMINAL
JUSTICE COLLATED ALL CCTV DATA
FROM THE 40 YEARS PRIOR AND
ORGANIZED CHANGES IN CRIME INTO
THE FOLLOWING FIVE CATEGORIES.
DISORDER, WHICH INCLUDES
ADDICTIONS AND MENTAL HEALTH,
DRUG TRAFFICKING, PROPERTY
DAMAGE, VEHICLE DAMAGE AND
VIOLENT CRIME. IN THEIR
CONCLUSION, CCTV ONLY
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED PROPERTY
AND VEHICLE DAMAGE. DISORDER AND
VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION WERE NOT
EVEN CLOSE TO SIGNIFICANCE.
THEREFORE, I BELIEVE CCTV HAS
THE ABILITY TO MONITOR PROPERTY
BUT IT WILL NOT CHANGE OUR
CULTURE TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF
SEATTLE. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK
AT WHAT CHICAGO IS DOING AND
FOLLOW THEIR LEAD. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME.
>> HELLO, COUNSEL. MY NAME IS
GARRETT. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 3. I
FEEL LIKE THIS IS A LAZY WAY OF
HANDLING CRIME. I OPPOSE THE
REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER BECAUSE
THERE ARE BETTER ALTERNATIVES TO
PREVENT CRIME THAN MESS
SURVEILLANCE. FOR EXAMPLE,
DENVER'S STAR PROGRAM SENDS
MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS TO
NONVIOLENT 911 CALLS, REDUCING
LEVELS TO 35% IN THE FIRST YEAR.
SEATTLE'S ONLY PROGRAM DIVERTS
PEOPLE FROM JAILS AND SERVICES,
WHICH WE CAN ALSO FIND USING THE
MONEY FOR THIS PROGRAM. OAKLANDS
VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION TEAM HAS
REDUCED TO THIS FOR MORE THAN --
FOR SEVERAL YEARS. AND CRIME
PREVENTION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
DESIGN, AND THE PLANET. I KNOW
THAT PROPER LIGHTING AND DESIGN
CAN HELP REDUCE CRIME RATHER
THAN SURVEYING PEOPLE IN THEIR
BATHROOMS. THE STRATEGIES COST
LESS, BUILD TRUST AND ADDRESS
ROOT CAUSES. THANK YOU. JUST
VOTE NO.
>> OUR LAST SPEAKER -- GOOD
AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS PICK
MY NAME IS ALINA AND I'M HERE
REPRESENTING FRIENDS OF LITTLE
SAIGON. WE OPPOSE INCREASED
SERVICE TECHNOLOGY IN SEATTLE
BECAUSE OF THE RISKS IT POSES TO
OUR IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE
COMMUNITY'S. WE ARE SEEING
TRULY FRIGHTENING THREATS TO
IMMIGRANT AND COMMUNITY SAFETY.
JUST YESTERDAY THE U.S. SUPREME
COURT GAVE PERMISSION FOR I.C.E.
TO CONDUCT RAIDS IN L.A. BASED
ON RACIAL PROFILING. RAIDS HAVE
BEEN GETTING MORE VIOLENT AND
RAMPANT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN
USING SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY TO
AID IN DEPORTATION EFFORTS AND
WE CANNOT RISK SEATTLE DATA
BEING USED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
RESEARCH SHOWS CCTV CAMERAS DO
NOT REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME OR MAKE
OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER. INSTEAD,
WE MUST INVEST IN COMMUNITY
CENTERED SOLUTIONS TO PUBLIC
SAFETY THREATS. SUCH AS
SUPPORTING OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE
EXPERIENCING THE GREATEST NEED,
WHICH WILL RAISE THE OVERALL
QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL SEATTLE
RESIDENTS. WE ASK THAT THE CITY
DELAY THE EXPANSION OF THE
SURVEILLANCE PILOT AND DO
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH
EMERGING, REFUGEES AND OTHER
COMMUNITIES ABOUT THE INTENDED
IMPACTS OF SURVEILLANCE BEFORE
ANY ACTION IS TAKEN. WE URGE YOU
TO EXPOSE -- OPPOSE AND INVEST
IN SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE
ROOT CAUSE OF CRIME. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT THREE
REMOTE SPEAKERS ARE -- FOLLOWED
BY JULIA BUCK AND THEN -- GO
AHEAD , NOEL.
>> HEY. HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> OKAY, GREAT. I AM A RESIDENT
OF DISTRICT 2. I'M HERE TO
VEHEMENTLY REJECT THE BILL THAT
WE ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT. I'M
A LITTLE UPSET THAT I HAVE TO BE
RUSHED THROUGH THIS BECAUSE THIS
IS A VERY RUSHED DECISION ON
YOUR PART AND IT IS CLEAR TO ME
THAT WE ARE RUSHING TO GET OUT
OF THE DOOR WHEN 120
CONSTITUENTS ARE HERE VEHEMENTLY
OPPOSING THIS WITH DATA AND
BACKED UP BY WHAT THE PEOPLE
ACTUALLY WANT AND NEED. I URGE
YOU TO STAND WITH THE PEOPLE. WE
ARE ALL THE PEOPLE HERE. WITH
PEOPLE'S MOVEMENTS FOR JUSTICE
AND LASTING PEACE . OUR FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS NOW CALLED THE
DEPARTMENT OF WAR. THAT WOULD BE
AGAINST US IF WE MOVE IN THIS
DIRECTION.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS JULIA BUCK, WHO WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY -- AND THEN LOIS
MARTIN. GO AHEAD, JULIA.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS JULIA BUCK
AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT
6 IN SEATTLE. SINCE I LAST SPOKE
ABOUT THE SURVEILLANCE IN THE
CITY COUNCIL MEETING SEATTLE
OFFICIALS MANAGED TO BECOME A
NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT BECAUSE
THEY WERE QUOTE, UNQUOTE DUPED
BY MARSHALL FREEMAN , WHO WAS
INTRODUCED AS A MEMBER OF THE
ATLANTA POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO
ACTUALLY WAS A BOARD MEMBER OF
-- PROVIDER. IN ADDITION, THE
GOVERNMENT IS TAKING CONTROL OF
D.C. SYSTEM AND IS USING IT TO
IMPOSE MARTIAL LAW AND INVADE
AUSA. MEANWHILE, OUR ON MIKE
SULLIVAN, THE PRESIDENT OF FOG,
IS PRAISING TRUMPS TAKEOVER OF
D.C. AND POSING WITH TOM HOMAN.
THIS EXPANSION IS GARBAGE. I
URGE YOU TO REJECT IT.
>> -- GO AHEAD, AV.
>> MY NAME IS ALLIE. I LIVE IN
DISTRICT 7. HONESTLY, I'M JUST
APPALLED THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY IS
EVEN BEING MARKETED AS SOMETHING
THAT'S GOING TO MAKE OUR CITY
SAFER. INCREASED SURVEILLANCE
WILL TURN SEATTLE INTO AN EVEN
STRONGER SURVEILLANCE STATE THAT
SEEKS OUT, AND TRAPS AND
PUNISHES PEOPLE OF COLOR , THE
IN-HOUSE AND THE LGBTQ
COMMUNITY. EXPANDING
SURVEILLANCE WILL DO NOTHING BUT
HARM MARGINAL COMMUNITIES. THEY
WILL BE USED TO COURTNEY WITH
I.C.E. AND OTHERS TO BRUTALLY
DISAPPEAR PEOPLE, AS WE HAVE
ALREADY SEEN. IT WOULD BE DONE
TO BELIEVE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS
USED TO PROTECT ANYONE EXCEPT
THE WEALTHY WHITE AND
CONSERVATIVE, WHICH IS A GROUP
OF PEOPLE THAT WANT NOTHING MORE
THAN TO STAMP OUT ANY SEMBLANCE
OF DIVERSITY. FOR THESE REASONS,
AND SOME ANYMORE I CAN NAME
RIGHT NOW DUE TO TIME, I AM
URGING YOU TO PLEASE VOTE NO ON
IMPLEMENTING ADDITIONAL
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. THANKS.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LOIS
MARTIN, FOLLOWED BY -- AND THEN
OLIVIA GREEN. GO AHEAD.
>> GO AHEAD, COUNSEL NUMBERS.
NEARLY EVERY MAJOR CITY RELIES
ON CAMERAS TO DISCOURAGE CRIME,
PROVIDE EVIDENCE AND
EMERGENCIES, AND PROTECT
RESIDENTS. SEATTLE DESERVES THE
SAME TOOLS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY
SAFE. BUT WE MUST FEAR THE
EXPANSION WITH SAFEGUARDS, THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING
I.C.E., ABUSING SYSTEMS FOR
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT OR
COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE. THE CITY
MUST SHUT DOWN ACCESS A MEALY.
CAMERAS SHOULD NEVER BE WEAPON
ICED AGAINST IMMIGRANT OR
VULNERABLE COMMITTEES. WITH
STRONG OVERSIGHT, EQUITY AND
PLACEMENT, TRANSPARENCY AND A
FIREWALL AGAINST FEDERAL MISUSE,
SEATTLE CAN STRENGTHEN SAFETY
WHILE OPPOSING VALLEYS -- ENSURE
THESE [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS -- WILL BE FOLLOWED BY OLIVIA
GREEN. GO AHEAD.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM SPEAKING
ON BEHALF OF THE ACLU OF
WASHINGTON. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE
COUNSEL BILLS EXPANDING CCTV .
THESE TECHNOLOGIES WILL NOT MAKE
OUR COMMUNITY SAFER. AND THEY
WILL CREATE REAL HARM.
SURVEILLANCE DATA IS ARTIE BEING
REQUESTED AND ACCESSED BY
OUT-OF-STATE AND FEDERAL
AGENCIES. AND IT'S BEING USED
TO TARGET VULNERABLE GROUPS,
INCLUDING IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE
SEEKING GENDER FROM CARE AND
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE. IN
WASHINGTON, D.C. THE LOCAL --
HAS BECOME A HUB FOR POTENTIAL
FEDERAL ACCESS TO BOTH PUBLIC
AND PRIVATE CAMERAS. THIS KIND
OF OVERREACH IS NOT
HYPOTHETICAL. IT IS HAPPENING.
HERE IN WASHINGTON STATE -- AND
I.C.E. HAVE ALREADY ACCESSED
INFORMATION FROM WASHINGTON
AGENCIES DESPITE PROTECTION.
SEATTLE SHOULD NOT BE NEXT. WE
URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO THE
OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION TO THESE
TECHNOLOGIES , INCLUDING FROM
THE CITY'S OWN SURVEILLANCE
WORKING GROUPS. PLEASE VOTE NO
ON BOTH COUNSEL BILLS. THANK
YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS OLIVIA
GREEN, FOLLOWED BY -- AND THEN
AMY. GO AHEAD, OLIVIA.
>> HI. MY NAME IS OLIVIA. I'M
AN LGBTQ RESIDENT OF SEATTLE AND
I'M CALLING TO URGE YOU TO VOTE
NO ON EXPANDED SURVEILLANCE FOR
THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE LOCATION OF THE CAMERAS IN
THE CID AND AROUND GARFIELD HIGH
SCHOOL, AND AROUND -- PARK
DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGET BLACK,
INDIGENOUS AND OTHER PEOPLE OF
COLOR AND PEOPLE. PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES, LOW INCOME AND
HOUSEL'S RESIDENCE. ALSO, THE
EXPANSION OF SEATTLE'S
SURVEILLANCE NETWORK INCLUDES
THE CONCENTRATED SURVEILLANCE OF
CHILDREN, SPECIFICALLY IN
GARFIELD , NOVA AND ALTERNATIVE
HIGH SCHOOLS THAT SERVE BY POCK
YOUTH, QUEER YOUTH AND -- MASS
SURVEILLANCE IS WORKING TO
FURTHER THE SCHOOL TO PRISON
PIPELINE. SURVEILLANCE IS A
POWERFUL TOOL BEING USED BY
I.C.E. AND BORDER CONTROL TO
TARGET IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES IN
WASHINGTON STATE AND IN SEATTLE.
THANK YOU.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS --
FOLLOWED BY AMY . AND THEN
ALICIA HENDRIX. GO AHEAD,
DAMIEN.
>> HI. I'M A SEATTLE HOMEOWNER
IN D6 AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT
REAL PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S WHY
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE EXPANSION
OF CCTV AND THE REAL-TIME CRIME
CENTER. THE PROPOSED EXPANSION
IS MISGUIDED AND IRRESPONSIBLE.
CONTRARY TO THE VENDOR CLAIMS,
SUCH TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT MAKE
OUR COMMUNITY SAFER, BACKED UP
WITH VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES IN
GREATER DANGER. WE ARE BEING
DELUSIONAL IF WE THINK THE DATA
BEING COLLECTED HERE WILL NOT BE
USED BY I.C.E. OR HOMELAND
SECURITY TO BYPASS DUE PROCESS
AND KIDNAP AND ABDUCT MEMBERS OF
OUR COMMUNITY . THIS ALONE
SHOULD LEAD THE COUNCIL TO PUT A
PAUSE ON THIS INCREASED
SURVEILLANCE. WE ALSO KNOW THAT
THE SURVEILLANCE IS GOING TO
TARGET VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES .
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS AMY FOLLOWED BY ALICIA
HENDRIX AND THEN -- GO AHEAD,
AMY.
>> HI, MY NAME IS AMY. I'M
CALLING FROM DISTRICT 7. BOB
KETTLES DISTRICT. I AM CALLING
TO OPPOSE THE CCTV EXPANSION. A
LOT OF OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTERS
HAVE MENTIONED , THE
SURVEILLANCE TARGETS MAKES MORE
VULNERABLE FOR COMMUNITY SUCH AS
IMMIGRANTS AND FOLKS SEEKING
HEALTHCARE FOR ABORTION OR
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. I ALSO
WANT TO IMPLORE BOB KENDALL AND
THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO
THINK ABOUT THEY DON'T SEE
THEMSELVES AS ONE OF THOSE
VULNERABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR
THE FLUID NATURE OF CRIME AND
ANYBODY CAN BE CONSIDERED A
PROTESTER WHO IS WORTH TARGETING
UNFAIRLY . THE SURVEILLANCE CAN
GO AS FAR AS ENTERING WHO SHOWS
UP TO WHICH COMMUNITY MEETING.
IT'S EXPENSIVE, IT'S
DANGEROUS, IT'S INEFFECTIVE AT
REDUCING CRIME AND IT'S AN ACT
OF BETRAYAL FOR ALL SEATTLEITES.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS ALICIA HENDRIX WHO IS OUR
LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS REMOTE
GROUP. GO AHEAD, ALICIA.
>> I AM -- I'M AN ACTIVE-DUTY
AIR FORCE PILOT -- I.C.E. RATES
HAVE INCREASED AND RESIDENTS ARE
SEPARATED FROM FAMILIES WITHOUT
DUE PROCESS. I DO NOT BELIEVE
THAT INCREASING SURVEILLANCE --
IN-HOUSE POPULATIONS, [
INAUDIBLE ] I BELIEVE MY
TAXPAYER DOLLARS SHOULD HELP
PEOPLE ACCESS EQUITABLE HOUSING,
HEALTHCARE AND EDUCATION. I
BELIEVE WE CAN FIGHT CRIME BY
INVESTING IN ONE ANOTHER AS
HUMAN BEINGS RATHER THAN [
INAUDIBLE ] PERSONALLY
IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION BEING
ABSORBED AND MISHANDLED BY THE
GOVERNMENT. BOB FERGUSON HAS
SAID THAT OUR STATE HAS NEVER --
AUTHORITARIANISM. SURVEILLANCE
IS A KEY TOOL OF FASCISM.
INCREASED SURVEILLANCE WOULD
CAST ASIDE OUR CITY VALUES OF
FOSTERING A THRIVING, EQUITABLE
AND SUSTAINABLE -- DISREGARD
THIS DIGNITY OF OUR CITIZENS FOR
TOOLS OF OPPRESSION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. OUR LAST SPEAKER
FOR THIS REMOTE GROUP IS .
>> HI. I'M A MEMBER OF --
AGAINST POLITICAL OPPRESSION.
I'M OPPOSED TO THE EXPANSION OF
SURVEILLANCE . I DO NOT TRUST
SPD WITH OUR DATA. I'M WORRIED
THAT THEY WILL NOT HAVE
COMMUNITY CONTROL THE POLICE NOR
COMMUNITY CONTROL OF THE
SURVEILLANCE. THIS IS A POLICE
DEPARTMENT THAT LOVES TRUMP AND
HAS BEEN SUED RECENTLY, EVEN
WITHIN THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT,
OVER ISSUES REGARDING RACISM AND
SEXISM. I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT
THE CCTV EXPANSION NEAR GARFIELD
HIGH SCHOOL. I'M CONCERNED SPD
WILL USE THIS DATA AS A WAY TO
CRIMINALIZE BLACK STUDENTS
INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING COMMUNITY
SAFETY. I'M ESPECIALLY OPPOSED
TO THIS EXPANSION -- TECH
SURVEILLANCE [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR
INSTANCE, WITH EXPANDED DATA
COLLECTED, TRUMP AND THE
NATIONAL CAN COME IN AND TAKE
OVER THE CRIME CENTER. -- AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE OPPOSED TO
AND I'M OPPOSED TO IT TOO.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK
TO IN PERSON SPEAKERS. I WILL
TRY TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT
LOUDER. MY APOLOGIES. WE WILL
USE NUMBERS, WHICH IS WHAT I
PREFER TO ENSURE WHERE WE ARE
AT. SO WE ARE NOW AT NUMBER 31.
31 OF 65. WE ARE GOING TO CALL
OUT THE NEXT FOUR NAMES HE CAN
START LINING UP WE HAVE VANESSA
, MADISON BARBARA AND THEN SARA
TURNER. -- SPEAKING AGAINST
EXPANDING CCTV AND REAL-TIME
CRIME CENTER SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY. THIS INCREASED
SURVEILLANCE CREATES MORE RISKS
TO IMMIGRANTS, REFUGEES AND
OTHER MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.
ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS TECHNOLOGY
IS OPERATED BY PRIVATE PARTIES.
THIS SUMMER WE HAVE SEEN HOW OUR
LOCAL ENDS STAY PROTECTIONS HAVE
BEEN DISREGARDED BY A FEDERAL
ADMINISTRATION INTENT ON USING
EVERY TOOL AVAILABLE TO
TERRORIZE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES.
THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF HOW
OUR DATA FROM OUR STATE
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING, OUR
STATE MEDICAID PROGRAM AND ALSO
LICENSE PLATE READERS USED BY
THE KING COUNTY HOUSING
AUTHORITY HAVE BEEN ACCESSED BY
I.C.E. DESPITE OUR LOCAL
ATTEMPTS TO PROTECT THAT DATA.
SEATTLE CAN'T CALL ITSELF A
WELCOMING CITY FOR IMMIGRANTS
WHILE EXPANDING ANOTHER AVENUE
THAT CAN BE USED TO DETAIN AND
DEPORT OUR NEIGHBORS. PLEASE
VOTE NO TO EXPAND SURVEILLANCE.
>> HELLO AGAIN, EVERYBODY. YOU
MAY REMEMBER ME -- WHO CARES
ABOUT YOUR CIVIL LIBERTIES. MOM
SAYS I'M THE PRETTY ONE. I'M
HERE TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION
AGAINST THE CCTV CAMERAS. FIRST,
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ASININE
COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
KENDALL SAID DURING THE
COMMITTEE VOTE. WHEN PEOPLE ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION INVADING SEATTLE
AND USING THESE CAMERAS FOR
ILLEGAL PURPOSES BOB SAID THAT
WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN AND THE
PUBLIC COMMENTERS HAD TALKING
POINTS. THEY WERE TALKING
POINTS, THEY WERE LEGITIMATE
FEARS THAT WE HAVE. I.C.E. HAS
ALREADY USED DATA FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND THE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. AND THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WILL USE
CAMERAS FOR DEPORTATION BECAUSE
YOU ALL RIGHT TERRIBLE BILLS.
NEXT, I WANT TO ADDRESS MY
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. YOU
PROPOSED THE CAMERAS AROUND
GARFIELD, WHICH IS DOWN THE
STREET FOR ME. WHAT WILL
ACTUALLY HELP STUDENTS A FIELD
IS FULLY FUNDING MENTAL HEALTH
SERVICES, FUNDING AFTERSCHOOL
PROGRAMS AND VIOLENCE PREVENTION
PROGRAMS. YOU POSTED A TASTELESS
MEME LAST NIGHT THAT SHOWS HOW
-- I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE
CCTV CAMERAS. FINALLY, CAMERAS
ARE NOT PREVENTING CRIME --
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE MADISON BARBER AND
THEN SARA TURNER. I BELIEVE IT
IS SAGE MITCHELL.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS MADISON
BARBER. I'M A RECENT RESIDENT
OF DISTRICT 1 AND I'M HERE TO
ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO VOTE NO TO
CB 21053. I RECENTLY MOVED UP
HERE FROM NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA
WHERE SIMILAR TECHNOLOGY WAS
USED . AND I CAN TELL YOU ALL
FIRSTHAND THAT IT HAS DONE
NOTHING TO MITIGATE OR EVEN
PREVENT CRIME. IF ANYTHING, THE
ORDINANCES THAT YOU ARE ALL
PROPOSING WOULD BE DANGEROUS AND
INVASIVE TO OUR COMMUNITIES,
PARTICULARLY OUR MARGINALIZED
COMMUNITIES. AS WELL AS BEING
ANTITHETICAL TO SEATTLE BEING A
CENTURY CITY. AND IF ALL ELSE ,
THESE ORDINANCES WOULD BE
SYMBOLIC OF BENDING THE KNEE TO
THE TRUMP AND MINISTRATION. VOTE
NO.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS SARA TURNER
AND I'M A BLOCK OFF OF --
AVENUE. IN COUNCILMEMBER
JUAREZ'S DISTRICT. [ INAUDIBLE
] AS A CHRISTIAN AND A RESIDENT
OF AN ALREADY HIGHLY SURVEILED
NEIGHBORHOOD I AM DEEPLY
CONCERNED ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS
VIOLATIONS BY EXPANDING THE
CITY'S REAL-TIME VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE. THIS EXPANDED
SURVEILLANCE PUTS ALREADY
VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS AT EVEN HIGHER
RISK. OUR IN HOUSE TO NEIGHBORS,
OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS,
REGARDLESS OF THE DOCUMENTATION
OR CITIZENSHIP STATUS, OUR BLACK
AND BROWN NEIGHBORS, OUR LGBTQ
NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORS SEEKING
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE. THIS IS
A THREAT TO THE SAFETY OF ALL OF
US. SEATTLE HAS BEEN A SANCTUARY
TO SO MANY COMMUNITIES. AS A
CHRISTIAN , AND AS YOUR
CONSTITUENT, I TAKE SERIOUSLY
OUR CLAIM TO PROVIDE SANCTUARY.
I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ALSO
TAKE THIS VALUE SERIOUSLY. THANK
YOU.
>> AFTER SAGE WE THEN HAVE EMMA.
I BELIEVE IT IS EMMA AND THEN
NICHOLAS LAYTON AND PHILIP
LEWIS.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS SAGE
MITCHELL. I AM OPPOSED TO THE
EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE IN
SEATTLE. IT IS DEEPLY
PROBLEMATIC TO SURVEIL THE
POPULATION AND USE IT AGAINST US
WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
OVERREACHING THE WAY IT IS. WE
HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE THREE
BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT, AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL, ARE ESSENTIALLY
COLLUDING WITH EACH OTHER. THE
CHECKS AND BALANCES ARE NOT
DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY,
RESPECTFULLY , TO ACTUALLY STAND
UP AND OPPOSE WHAT'S HAPPENING
THERE. YOU NEED TO PROTECT THIS
COMMUNITY. THAT IS YOUR DUTY.
AND I AM NOT SEEING THAT YET. I
DEMAND IT. I WOULD LIKE TO
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO READ IBM AND
THE HOLOCAUST, AND AUTOMATING
INEQUALITY. THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE EMMA .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.,
RESIDENT OF THE CID. WE ARE
LIVING IN A TIME WHERE THE
IMPACT OF A SURVEILLANCE STATE
IS BASED MORE HEAVILY ON AN
INDIVIDUAL'S EXPENSE THAN
PREVIOUSLY IN THE COUNTRY.
LOPSIDED IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT
CONTINUES TO DESTABILIZE AND
DESTROY COMMUNITIES BOTH
SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY ACROSS
THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING IN STATES
LIKE OURS. WE WOULD BE DOING
YOURSELF A DISSERVICE BY --
EASILY CO-OPTED BY THOSE
ANTIDEMOCRATIC AND ANTI-AMERICAN
FORCES THAT ARE NOT PLAY. IT
INHERENTLY MAKES THE ASSUMPTION
THAT THESE KIND OF SYSTEMS
CANNOT BE ABUSED. IT CANNOT BE
STRESSED ENOUGH THAT THE LAW
DOES NOT MATTER FOR WHOM THIS
DATA IS VALUABLE. THEY WILL
STEAL IT, ILLEGAL OR NOT. IT CAN
BE TEMPTING FOR GOVERNING BODY
TO ATTEMPT TO SOLVE PROBLEMS
THAT ARE PEOPLE PROBLEMS, LIKE
THOSE IN SEATTLE, USING
TECHNOLOGY RATHER THAN
COMPASSION. THIS DOES NOT WORK.
I HOPE THE SEATTLE COUNCIL CAN
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE
PLUMMETING. ANY OF YOU IN THIS
CHAMBER HAVE ALREADY --
>> OKAY. WE NOW HAVE NICHOLAS,
PHILIP LEWIS AND THEN CHELSEA
STEPHENSON. NICHOLAS, PHILIP,
CHELSEA . OKAY. NICHOLAS IS NOT
HERE. WE WILL PROCEED TO PHILIP.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBER'S. MY NAME IS PHIL LEWIS
AND I SERVE AS ONE OF THE
COCHAIRS FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS
COMMISSION AS A PASTOR IN THE
SOUTH LAKE UNION NEIGHBORHOOD. I
HAVE SEEN THE IMPACTS OF POLICY
LIKE THIS FIRSTHAND. ACTUALLY,
MY MOM'S HOMETOWN OF MEMPHIS,
TENNESSEE. TOO OFTEN THESE KIND
OF APPROACHES IN MEMPHIS PUSH
YOUNG PEOPLE INTO THE SCHOOL TO
PRISON PIPELINE RATHER THAN
SETTING THEM UP TO THRIVE AS THE
COMMUNITY DESIRES FOR THEM TO BE
ABLE TO DO. I WANT TO THANK THE
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK IN THE
OFFICE FOR THE CIVIL RIGHTS
ANALYSIS THAT SHE REQUESTED FROM
THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU PROVIDED
TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY IN THAT
WAY. WE KNOW THAT SURVEILLANCE
DOES NOT CRACKDOWN ON VIOLENT
CRIME. SURVEILLANCE ACTUALLY
CRACKS DOWN ON THE CIVIL RIGHTS
OF BLACK AND BROWN IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
AND OUR CITY. WE KNOW THAT THE
REALITIES OF THESE IMPACTS ARE
FELT THROUGHOUT OUR CITY AND IN
OUR COUNTRY. THIS IS WHY URGE ON
BEHALF OF THE COCHAIRS OF THE
HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION TO VOTE
NO ON THIS BILL AND TO FOLLOW
THE DIRECTIVE OF THE OFFICE OF
CIVIL RIGHTS THAT WAS GIVEN TO
YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.
>> WE HAVE CHELSEA , GUILLERMO
AND THEN JASON PICK
>> MY NAME IS CHELSEA
STEPHENSON. I AM A RESIDENT AND
VOTER OF DISTRICT 5 OF
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. I AM A
FORMER LONGTIME EMPLOYEE
PROVIDING COMMUNITY SAFETY WORK
IN DISTRICT 2. AND CURRENTLY
SERVING AS A VOLUNTEER ON THE
HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. I AM
HERE ASKING YOU GUYS TODAY TO
PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE EXPANSION
OF CCTV. HAVING WORKED A DECADE
WITH YOUNG PEOPLE AND
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES IN
SOUTH SEATTLE, I HAVE SEEN,
FIRSTHAND, THE FEARS AND
CONCERNS BROUGHT FORTH WHEN
PROPOSING LEGISLATION LIKE THIS.
I AM, INSTEAD, ASKING THAT YOU
DELAY EXPANSION OF THE
SURVEILLANCE PILOT PROGRAM UNTIL
COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION DATA IS
AVAILABLE AND FEDERAL DATA
ACCESS PROTECTIONS CAN BE
GUARANTEED. CONDUCT MEANINGFUL ,
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH
REFUGEES AND OTHER VULNERABLE
COMMUNITIES, AND INVEST IN
EVIDENCE-BASED --
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEAR MOE, JASON AND THEN WE
WILL GO BACK TO REMOTE SPEAKERS.
>> HELLO, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS
GUILLERMO. I AM HERE ON BEHALF
OF ONE AMERICA. ONE AMERICA IS
AN IMMIGRANT RIGHTS ORGANIZATION
HAS SERVED THE CITY FOR NEARLY
24 YEARS. IN THE NAME OF THE
SAFETY AND PROTECTION OF OUR
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES WE URGE
YOU TO GO ON EXPANDING THE CCTV
AND SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES.
WE ARE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE
CITY HAS IGNORED THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF ITS OWN
SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP, THE
OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS , ADVICE
AGAINST THE ADOPTION OF THESE
BILLS, AND THIS RAISES SERIOUS
CONCERNS ABOUT THE HARM
TECHNOLOGIES WILL BRING. THE
LACK OF OUTREACH BY HIS COUNSEL
TO COMMUNITIES THAT WILL BE MOST
IMPACTED, AND THE TASTINESS OF
THE PROCESS AS A WHOLE. THE
SERVICE PROVIDERS WE ALSO FEAR
THAT THESE TOOLS WILL BE USED TO
TARGET US WHEN WE ARE WORKING
WITH CLIENTS AND MEMBERS. THERE
IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE CITY
CAN PROTECT THIS DATA FROM BEING
ABUSED BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. WE LIVE IN DEEPLY
UNPRECEDENTED TIMES WHERE THERE
IS A FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION
USING EVERYTHING AT THEIR
DISPOSAL TO VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS.
LET'S NOT GIVE THEM ANOTHER
TOOL. WE STRONGLY URGE THIS
COUNCIL TO DELAY THESE BILLS AND
FIRST CONDUCT MEANINGFUL
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THESE
COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU.
>> JASON CHEN WILL BE THE LAST
SPEAKER. THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO
REMOTE SPEAKERS.
>> IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY NAÏVE
OF THIS COUNCIL NOT TO RECOGNIZE
HOW THIS PROPOSED EXPANSION OF
SURVEILLANCE WILL END UP
TARGETING THE MOST VULNERABLE
AMONG YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
ACTIVISTS , MARGINALIZED
COMMUNITY'S, AND MOST
RELEVANTLY NOW, IMMIGRANTS.
LET'S NOT FORGET HOW, IN 2020,
OPERATION PALLADIUM SPIED ON
CIVILIANS 24/7 IN ORDER TO SEND
FEDERAL AGENTS INTO MAJOR
SANCTUARY CITIES TO INCREASE
IMMIGRANT ARRESTS. AND NOW WE
HAVE SEEN INTERNAL EMAILS
DESCRIBING THE I.C.E. INTEND TO
, QUOTE, FLOOD THE STREETS WITH
AGENTS. EVEN IF THIS IS NOT
MISUSED BY SPD, WHAT GUARANTEE
CANNOT POSSIBLY BE THAT DHS WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO SIT IN FOR ACCESS
TO THIS COVERAGE? IF YOU OR A
CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS
OPPOSED TO THE DESTRUCTIVE,
INTRUSIVE AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL
METHODS OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, THEN VOTE
AGAINST CREATING THIS DANGEROUS
AND INVASIVE SURVEILLANCE
NETWORK.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT THREE
REMOTE SPEAKERS WILL BE CODY ,
MICHAEL SCHROEDER FOLLOWED BY
JACKSON MAR . GO AHEAD, CODY.
>> HI. MY NAME IS CODY FROM
DISTRICT 4 AND AM SPEAKING
AGAINST THE EXPANSION OF CCTV --
I.C.E. IS ROUNDING UP OUR
NEIGHBORS [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> LEAD, MICHAEL SCHROEDER.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME,
COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
MICHAEL SCHROEDER. I AM ASKING
FOR THE COUNCIL TO KNOW [
INAUDIBLE ] IT IS UNNECESSARY.
PUBLIC DATA SHOWS THAT CRIME HAS
BEEN DECREASING. SPD SAYS THAT
THEY ARE TOO UNDERSTAFFED TO
FIGHT CRIME. VIOLENT CRIME HAS
DROPPED BELOW LEVELS OF 2018,
BEFORE THE SPIKE OF THE
PANDEMIC. [ INAUDIBLE ]
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JACKSON.
FOLLOWED BY JORDAN AND THE DATE.
GO AHEAD, JACKSON.
>> MY NAME IS JACKSON. I LIVE IN
DISTRICT 3 AND EMERGING THE
COUNCIL TO VOTE NO TO THE
SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM. DESPITE
PROMISES OF THE POLICE CHIEF AND
HIS COUNSEL TO PROTECT SEATTLE
FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION,
SPD HAS ALREADY FACILITATED THE
MASS DEPORTATION CAMPAIGN. TODAY
THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING
GIVING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT A
MASSIVE EXPANSION OF
SURVEILLANCE THAT THEY WOULD
HAVE NO ABILITY TO PREVENT FROM
FALLING INTO THE HANDS OF VICE
OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY
HAVE ARTIE PROMISED TO EXPAND
THE POLICE CAMPAIGN BEYOND D.C.
TO OTHER BLUE CITIES, MAINLY
SEATTLE SPECIFICALLY. THEY WILL
COME HERE. THE ONLY QUESTION IS
WHETHER WE WILL HAVE HANDED THEM
THE TOOLS TO CRACKDOWN ON
IMMIGRANTS -- [ INAUDIBLE ]
DELAY THE EXPANSION OF THE PILOT
PROGRAM AND INVEST IN
EVIDENCE-BASED COMMUNITY SAFETY
PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY REDUCE
HARM WHILE STRENGTHENING
COMMUNITY TRUST , WHICH IS WHAT
MANY OF YOU RAN ON IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS GORDON WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED
BY NATE.
>> HI, MY NAME IS JORDAN. MY
MEMBER OF CAPITOL HILL. I'M
CALLING TO STRONGLY EXPOSE THE
MASS SURVEILLANCE IN THE REST OF
THE CITY. AT A TIME WHEN THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TRASHING
PRIVACY LAWS -- LIKE SEATTLE AND
COMPELLING COOPERATION FOR LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT'S TRULY AN
OUTRAGE THAT THE COUNCIL IS
CONSIDERING THE MASS EXPANSION
OF SURVEILLANCE. THERE IS NO WAY
TO ASSURE THAT THESE CAMERAS
WON'T BE TURNED AGAINST
SATELLITES TO VIOLATE OUR
OBJECTIVE RIGHTS TO ASSEMBLY AND
FREE SPEECH. IF WE THINK THAT
SOME AMENDMENT TO THIS OR STATE
LAWS GOING TO SOMEHOW PREVENT
THE ABUSE BY THE LEAST
LAW-ABIDING PRESIDENT IN OUR
HISTORY THAN WE ARE INCREDIBLY
NAÏVE. I.C.E. IS ALREADY
GETTING DATA FROM LOCAL AND
STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT. WHY DOES
THIS COUNCIL WANT TO MAKE IT
EASIER FOR VULNERABLE
SEATTLEITES TO BE TERRORIZED?
ALSO, I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING
THAT WHEN I REVIEW THE MAP OF
THE PROPOSED CAMERA LOCATIONS
THERE ARE DENSE CLUSTERS IN
CAPITAL, AND FOR STILL.
NON-BALLARD, NINE WEST SEATTLE.
SURELY, THIS COUNCIL ISN'T
SUGGESTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS
HISTORICALLY KNOWN FOR THEIR
LARGE QUEER AND BLACK
COMMUNITIES ARE NEEDED EXTRA
SURVEILLANCE? I STRONGLY URGE
ALL OF YOU TO REJECT THE MASS
EXPANSION. THANK YOU.
>> THIS MOVE WILL OPEN SEATTLE
RESIDENTS TO OUT-OF-STATE
ORGANIZATIONS WHO WILL BYPASS
THEIR OWN STATE LAWS.
>>> MORNING OTHER CONCERNS, THIS
TO PURSUE THOSE DROVE HER TO
HER FIRST APPOINTMENT.
AUTHORITIES WOULD KNOW HER
WHEREABOUTS. I AM AFRAID THAT
SHE WOULD BE DELAYED TO GET CARE
HERE. AND WE MUST COUNCIL
AGAINST THESE ORDNANCES. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS
NICOLE ALLBRIGHT FOLLOWED BY
JACKSON FOLLOWED BY NIKENBAUKER.
>> MY NAME IS NICOLE. I'M A
RESIDENT OF CAPITOL HILL. I'M
GOING TO BE ECHOING OTHERS TO
VOTE NO. IT'S BEEN JUST MONTHS
SINCE TRUMP LEFT OFFICE AND
HE'S ALREADY USED VIOLENT CRIME
TO SEND TROOPS INTO CITIES LIKE
OURS. SEATTLE HAS ALREADY BEEN
NAMED A TARGET AND WE HAVE NO
REAL SOLUTION TO PROTECT DATA.
WITH MULTIPLE SPD OFFICERS
IDENTIFIED AT THE CAPITAL ON
JANUARY SIXTH, HOW CAN WE TRUST
THE DEPARTMENT FOR OVERREACH.
HOW CAN WE TRUST THAT THEY
EVERYONE -- EVEN WANT TO. THIS
ISN'T ABOUT SURVEILLANCE, THIS
IS ABOUT POWER. AND WHO ARE THEY
REALLY PROTECTING. NOT AN
EXPANDING TOOL TO BE USED
AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS. FOR THOSE
OF YOU STILL ON THE FENCE
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN A
MINORITY GROUP I WANT TO REMIND
YOU THAT POLICING THE MARGINS IS
ONLY THE BEGINNING OF FASCISM.
>>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BEA
JACKSON. YOU MAY NEED TO PRESS
STAR SIX BEA. WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE ON TO MATT AUSTINBACHEN.
MATT ARE YOU THERE.
>> I AM. HI COUNCIL MEMBERS
THANKS FOR LISTENING TO US
TODAY. AND I DO HOPE YOU'RE
TAKING IN ALL THIS AMAZING
TESTIMONY. LESS THAN A YEAR AGO
YOU VOTED FOR A TWO YEAR CPTV
PILOT PROGRAM. THIS WAS A
COMPROMISE. FOR A STRONG
COMMUNITY OPPOSITION, FEW CAMERA
SURVEILLANCE AT THAT TIME. YOU
WENT AHEAD AND APPROVED IT BUT
YOU ALSO PROMISED US THAT YOU
WOULD EVALUATE THE PROGRAM
BEFORE ANY FURTHER EXPANSION OF
IT. THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED. MANY
HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU EXPANDING
CCTV IS A BAD IDEA. THE OFFICE
OF CIVIL RIGHTS, YOUR OWN POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS. WE
DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO AGREE FOR
DEMOCRACY TO WORK. BUT WE DO
HAVE TO TRY OUR BEST TO BE
HONORABLE. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO
SERVE YOUR CITY WITH HONOR. IT
MEANS NO BAIT AND SWITCH. NO
SQUIRRELY BACK ROOM DEALS.
>> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS
DUSTIN WARD WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED
BY DENNISON THEN WE'LL TRY BEA
JACKSON ONCE MORE. BUT GO AHEAD
DUSTIN WARD.
>> MY NAME IS DUSTIN WARD AND I
RUN THE POLICE WATCHDOG. I
BELIEVE THE RISK AND THREAT OF
THIS LEGISLATION HAVE ALREADY
BEEN COVERED PRETTY WELL. I WANT
TO TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF
WHICH I THINK THERE ARE A FEW.
PARTICULARLY, I WANT TO FOCUS ON
HOW THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT HAS SOLD THIS, THEY
SAID THEY HAD 600 INCIDENTS THE
RPC WAS INVOLVED IN. OVER 60s
DAYS. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW
THE RTC WAS INVOLVED. WE KNOW
THERE ARE LESS THAN 10 INCIDENTS
THAT WERE INCLUDED ON THE POLICE
BLOTTER AND FOR THE MOST PART
THEY WERE KIND OF UNDER
WHELMING. THE TWO THAT RESULTED
IN ARREST WERE MISDEMEANOR
CRIMES OF DUI AND A SIMPLE
ASSAULT. SO IF THAT'S LIKE
THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD AT SOME
REAL.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BEA
JACKSON. IF BEA IS ONLINE. GO
AHEAD HARRISON.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR YOUR
TIME. I'M A RENTER IN B5.
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN SAID THOSE WHO
WOULD GIVE UP LIBERTY FOR LITTLE
TEMPORARY SAFETY, FEAR NEITHER
LIBERTY OR SAFETY. LIBERTY IS A
RIGHT AND MENTAL HEALTH
NECESSITY. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN,
WHEN PEOPLE ARE SURVEILLED THEY
BEGIN TO EXHIBIT SYMPTOMS OF
PSYCHOSIS AND PARANOIA. AS
PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THESE
CAMERAS ARE GOING TO BE SET UP
IN NEIGHBORS THAT TARGET GROUPS
AND MINORITIES OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION TARGETS. EVEN
NASHVILLE TENNESSEE REFUSED TO
MOVE WITH THE SYSTEM BECAUSE
NASHVILLE BELIEVED IT WOULD
FUNNEL STRAIGHT TO I.C. E. TEXAS
USED RTCD TO GET CCTV DATA.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BEA
JACKSON. GO AHEAD BEA. THERE YOU
GO.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> MY NAME IS BEA JACKSON.
DEFINITELY WANT YOU GUYS TO SAY
NO TO EXPANDING THE CCTV.
BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY GIVING
LIKE OPEN AIR PRISON. LIKE IT'S
REALLY GIVING FASCISM AND I'M
NOT SURPRISED ALL THE WHITE
COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD VOTE YES.
BUT ALL THE POC WOULD REALLY BE
GIVING A LINING WITH FASCIST.
THAT'S SO NOT CUTE, NOT COOL.
SO YEAH. DON'T DO IT. JUST
DON'T DO IT BABE. YEAH, THANK
YOU.
>> WE'RE NOW MOVING BACK TO IN
PERSON COMMENTERS.
>> THANK YOU, JODIE. OKAY THE
NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS WE HAVE
JACKIE MAGDA. JOEL SWILINGER,
SIMON UNOSO. AND CLARA CANTOR.
>> HI COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS
JACKIE MASDA I'M A RESIDENT OF
THREE. A FOUR YEAR STUDY
CONDUCTED BY THE CITY UNIVERSITY
OF NEW YORK STATES THE CCTV
CAMERAS HAD NO SIGNIFICANT
EFFECT ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
COMBATING CRIMES MAY BE TO SEE
WHETHER RESOURCE WOULD BE BETTER
ALLOCATED. INSTEAD OF SPENDING
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON
INEFFECTIVE TECHNOLOGIES. NOT
ONLY ARE THE TECHNOLOGIES
INEFFECTIVE. THEY MAY ALSO BE
UNSAFE. IN THIS ALARMING MOMENT
OF HISTORY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE JOEL, SIMON. JOEL
THEN SIMON. THANK YOU.
>> HELLO MY NAME IS JOEL. I'M A
RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SIX AND
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY
OPPOSITION. EXPANDING
SURVEILLANCE UNDER CONSTITUENTS
WON'T CHANGE THE CIRCUMSTANCES
UNDER WHICH CRIME HAS TAKEN
PLACE. THIS WILL ONLY SERVE
WHICH WE KNOW FOR A FACT DOES
NOT REDUCE CRIME. THE WASHINGTON
DOL HAS ALREADY BEEN GRANTING
ACCESS TO I.C.E. FOR ITS
INTERNAL SEARCH ENGINE WHICH
CONTAINS SENSITIVE DETAILS SUCH
AS NAMES, ADDRESSES AND VEHICLE
INFORMATION. IT IS NOT
FARFETCHED TO ASSUME THESE NEW
CAMERAS WILL INEVITABLY BE USED
TO DETAIN OR DEPORT FAMILIES AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. IT'S NOT A
COINCIDENCE THESE CAMERAS ARE
PRIMARILY IN QUEER AND --
INSTEAD OF WORKING BY FEAR. VOTE
NO.
>> HI MY NAME IS SIMON KANAPIS.
I'M HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS THE
BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE
BEACON HILL COUNCIL. BECAUSE OF
THIS WE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE
EXPANDED SURVEILLANCE PROPOSED
121, 52 AND CB121-053. I'M
GOING TO READ MUCH SMALLER
VERSION OF THE LETTER THAT WE
SENT OUT TO YOU ALL. BUT I,
EXPECT THAT IT'S IN YOUR INBOX.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS 70% PEOPLE
OF COLOR, 44% IMMIGRANTS AND
REFUGEES AND HOME TO QUEER AND
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. THE WE
ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED THE SEATTLE
POLICE OFFICER HAS PUBLICLY MADE
STATEMENTS THAT HE WOULD SUPPORT
ASSISTING I.C.E. AND WE'RE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE SECURITY.
>> WE NEXT HAVE CLARA. THEN
PATRICK McGEE. DO WE HAVE CLARA.
I DON'T SEE CLARA. WE WILL MOVE
ON TO AARON KENNEDY, THEN JAN
MILLER. OKAY NO ERIC. PATRICK
McGE.
>> MY NAME IS ERIC. I'M HERE TO
SPEAK ABOUT YOUTH RIGHTS. I'M A
MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL YOUTH
RIGHTS ASSOCIATION. I KNOW THE
CITY OF SEATTLE COULD DO MORE TO
PROTECT THE LEGAL RIGHTS AND
POLITICAL FREEDOMS OF ITS
MINORS. WE WOULD LIKE,
CAFETERIAS TO STAY OPEN DURING
WEEKENDS AND SCHOOL BREAKS. WE
WOULD ALSO LIKE, THE CITY OF
SEATTLE TO EXTEND VOTING RIGHTS
TO MINORS IN COUNCIL AND MAYORAL
ELECTIONS. FULLY MINOR WHO LIVES
IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE DESERVES
THE RIGHT TO HAVE A SAY IN WHAT
GOES ON IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE
BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THEM. THANK
YOU.
>> WE HAVE PATRICK.
>> YEAH, HI I'M PAT MCCABE. I
LIVE IN WEST SEATTLE. I
PARTICULARLY WANT COUNCIL MEMBER
SAKA WHO VOTED LAST YEAR TO
APPROVE THE CCTV PILOT TO HEAR
ME. THE COUNCIL IS NOW
CONSIDERING SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY OF NO PROVEN
EFFECTIVENESS THAT IS BEING
PRESENTED AS A ONE SIMPLE TRICK
SOLUTION TO SAFETY. YOU GET YOUR
OWN CIVIL OFFICE OF RIGHTS
CALLING IT A THREAT TO
COMMUNITIES WITH QUOTE DIRECT
CONSEQUENCES FOR EQUAL
PROTECTION PRIVACY AND THE
FREEDOMS OF SPEECH IN
ASSOCIATION. MEANWHILE, WE'RE
LOOKING AT A DEMONSTROUS REGIME
THREATENING AMERICAN CITIES WITH
WAR. WHATEVER PROMISE IS
SEATTLE. COME ON COUNCIL
MEMBERS. THE PILOT HASN'T
PANNED OUT. THE FACTS ON THE
GROUND HAVE CHANGED DRASTICALLY.
YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO ANY
PREVIOUS.
>> WE NEXT HAVE, JAN MILLER,
ALLIE CARLSON, DENNIS, I THINK
IT'S DENNIS MADRIGAL.
>> I THINK IT'S IAN.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> PLEASE BE READY TO SPEAK AS
SOON AS THE PERSON IN FRONT OF
YOU HAS ENDED SPEAKING. BECAUSE
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO
THE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE AS WELL.
>> WE HAVE IAN, DENNIS, AND
CARL.
>> ALL RIGHT, HELLO CITY COUNCIL
MY NAME IS IAN MILLER. I'M HERE
TO URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. THE
CONSENT DECREE HAS BEEN TERM
MATED. -- TERMINATED. JUST A FEW
MONTHS AGO THEY USED EXCESSIVE.
JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO THE SPD
ASSISTED BY ARRESTING PROTESTERS
TRYING TO STOP UNIDENTIFIED
I.C.E. AGENTS FROM ILLEGALLY
KIDNAPPING IMMIGRANTS. THE
SUPREME COURT JUST RULED THAT
ICE IS ALLOWED TO DETAIN AND
QUESTION ANYONE THEY EXPECT OF
BEING AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT JUST
ON THE COLOR OF THEIR SCREEN AND
THE LANGUAGE THEY SPEAK. DO WE
REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE CAN TRUST
THE SPD. DO WE THINK THEY
WOULDN'T COLLABORATE WITH I.CE
AND WOULD USE. TO THOSE WHO WANT
TO VOTE YES I WANT TO ASK, ARE
YOU TRYING TO BE COMPLICIT OR DO
YOU THINK THIS IS JUST SOMETHING
THAT WON'T WORK.
>> ALLIE.
>> HI I'M A RESIDENT OF
DISTRICT THREE AND A FREQUENTER
OF THE CID. I'M HERE TO OPPOSE
THE EFFORTS TO EXPAND CCTV
CAMERAS ACROSS THE CITY. I KNOW
WE'RE A TECH CITY BUT COME ON.
AT LEAST IN REGARDS TO -- I KNOW
WE HAVE A VERY LONG TIME TESTED
TRADITION HERE IN THIS CITY OF
MAKING SHORT SIDED STUPID
DECISIONS BUT I BEG US NOT TO DO
IT THIS TIME. TO SLOW DOWN HERE,
I'M A QUEER RESIDENT OF THIS
CITY. I'M TIRED OF GOING OUT
AND EVERY DAY INCREASINGLY
FEARING FOR MY LIFE. FEARING FOR
MY NEIGHBORS LIFE. FEARING FOR
MY FRIENDS LIFE WHO ARE
IMMIGRANTS AND ALSO QUEER
PEOPLE. EVEN CITIZENS. THEY'RE
GOING AFTER CITIZENS. WE'VE ALL
SEEN GARCIA. WE'RE ALL GARCIA.
>> WE NOW HAVE, WE HAVE DENNIS
THEN FOLLOWING DENNIS WILL BE
CARL NELSON THEN WE'LL MOVE
INTO REMOTE SPEAKERS.
>> HELLO, MADRIGAL. THROUGHOUT
THE LIFE OF THE USA, THE
DEFINITION OF CRIMINALS HAS
CHANGED. FROM THE IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITY PROTESTING FOR RIGHTS.
TO THE PEOPLE PROTESTING. THIS
VERY PROPOSITION TO EXPAND THE
KR-RBG CTV CAMERAS THROUGHOUT
SEATTLE WILL GREATLY EMPOWER
THOSE WHO HAVE CHANGED WHAT IT
IS A CRIMINAL. AND AFFILIATIONS
ADDRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT THE
DUE PROCESS IS UNDER ATTACK.
RECENTLY IT WAS DISCOVERED THE
I.C.E. HAS BEEN FOUND TO MISUSE
DATA TO TRACK UNDOCUMENTED
RESIDENTS. EVERYONE THE VERY
PATRIOT ACT WE HAD WAS MISUSED.
WE SHOULD NOT TRUST THE STATE
WITH CAMERA SURVEILLANCE. [
INDESCERNIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU.
>>> MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MY NAME
IS CARL NELSON. I'M A 16 YEAR
SEATTLE RESIDENT, RENTER. I'M
ALSO HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO EXPANDING THE
SURVEILLANCE PILOT. EARLIER LAST
MONTH, WASHINGTON, D.C. POLICE
FORCE WAS LITERALLY TAKEN OVER
BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHICH
PROMPTED THE HEAD OF SEATTLE
MIKE SULLEN TO SAY. A MAN
ELECTED BY ABOUT 60% OF HIS RANK
IN FILE RESIDENT. PAY ATTENTION
TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE
DISTRICT OF COLOMBIA BECAUSE IT
IS THE BLUEPRINT WHEN IT COMES
TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIONS. HE
SAID THIS TO THE UNION HEAD OF
WASHINGTON, D.C.'S POLICE
UNION. TO IMAGINE SEATTLE IS
UNIQUE IS NAIVELY FOOLISH AND
DESTRUCTIVE AT BEST. RESEARCH
HAS NOT SUPPORTED CLAIMS THAT
THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS ANY REAL
EFFECT AND IT'S PURPORTED AIMS
AT COMBATING AND GIVEN OUR
FEDERAL SITUATION, I URGE YOU
ALL TO SHOOT THIS DOWN. THANK
YOU.
>>> WE'LL NOW MOVE BACK INTO
REMOTE COMMENTER. OUR NEXT
COMMENTER WILL BE SEAN, ROLAND
AND LIAM NEWHOUSE BROWN. GO
AHEAD SEAN.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN IN THE CHAMBER AND
THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL I WILL
SPARE YOU TIME TODAY WITH A VERY
SIMPLE STATEMENT. I HAVE THIS
MUCH TO SAY TO THE POLITICIANS
TODAY. IF YOU DO NOT PROTECT THE
FOURTH AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED
STATES CONSTITUTION PEOPLE WILL
EMBRACE THE SECOND AS THE
SOLUTION TO THEIR PROBLEMS.
REMEMBER THAT. GOOD DAY.
>> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS
ROLAND KAUFFMAN. THEN SAGE
WALAND. GO AHEAD ROLAND.
>> HI MY NAME IS ROWAN KAUFFMAN,
I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO ASK AS A
CONSTITUENT AND BEG YOU THE
COMMUNITIES OF YOUR CITY THAT
YOU VOTE NO ON EXPANDING
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
IMPLEMENTATION. YOU ALREADY KNOW
AND HEARD PLENTY TODAY OF THE
DANGERS FACED. THIS SHOULD BE
ENOUGH TO GUARANTEE YOUR VOTE
AGAINST THE THREAT TO OUR CITY.
FIRST OF ALL AS A PART OF 50% OF
SEATTLITES. I DO NOT HAVE THE
COMFORT TO BE SURVEYED IN OUR
HOMES. OUR POLITICAL CLIMATE IT
IS BEYOND OBVIOUS WHY SUCH
INCREASED SURVEILLANCE ARE
HONESTLY TERRIFIED AND I ASK NOT
ONLY FOR MYSELF, MY NEIGHBORS,
THE CITY AS A WHOLE BUT FOR ALL
OF YOU. YOU TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS
AND FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO
OBSERVE.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LIAM
NIEHOUSE. FOLLOWED BY SAGE WALA
ND. GO AHEAD.
>> HELLO MY NAME IS LIAM FROM
DISTRICT FOUR AND I'M SPEAKING
IN OPPOSITION OF EXPANDING
POLICE SURVEILLANCE. DOESN'T
MEAN THESE TOOLS CANNOT BE USED
AGAINST US BY THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. AS EVERYONE HAS
SAID PREVIOUSLY. THE SPD HAS
ALREADY COOPERATED WITH ICE TO
ARREST WASHINGTONIANS AND I
WOULD LIKE TO READ A POEM. FIRST
THEY CAME FOR THE SOCIALISTS AND
I DID NOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE I
WAS NOT A SOCIALIST. THEN THEY
CAME FOR THE TRADE UNIONISTS AND
I DID NOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE I
WAS NOT A TRADE UNIONISTS. THEN
THEY CAME FOR THE JEWS AND I DID
NOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE I WAS NOT
A JEW. AND THEN THEY CAME FOR ME
AND THERE WAS NO ONE LEFT TO
SPEAK FOR ME. SO I'M NOT
SPEAKING OUT. I WOULD LIKE FOR
ALL OF YOU TO SPEAK OUT AS WELL
BY VOTING NO ON THIS BILL. DO
NOT GIVE THEM MORE TOOLS SO THAT
THEY CAN SILENCE US, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS SAGE WALAND FOLLOWED BY
CHARLIE KAPLAN PEREZ AND DILLAN
BAKER. GO AHEAD SAGE.
>> HI, I JUST ALSO WANTED TO
CALL AND BE AN OPPOSITION TO THE
EXPANSION OF THIS INEFFECTIVE
AND DANGEROUS PREP. I KNOW THE
COUNCIL IS NOT NAIVE BECAUSE TO
WORK IN POLITICS AND BE BEHIND
THOSE CLOSED DOORS YOU CAN'T BE.
THIS WILL BE USED TO HARM OUR
NEIGHBORS. IT WILL BE USED TO
HARM PEOPLE. AND WHATEVER THE
POLICY STATES IT DOES NOT
MATTER. SO DON'T LET THIS BE
YOUR LEGACY. I REALLY HOPE YOU
DECIDE TO DO THE RIGHT THING,
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, OUR NEXT SPEAKER
IS KAITLIN PEREZ.
>> HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> HI MY NAME IS CHARLIE KAPLAN
PEREZ. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING
TO ME TODAY. JUST AS EVERYBODY
HAS SAID, THE RESEARCH DOES NOT
SUPPORT. IT IS OBVIOUS WHY IT
CAN BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE
COMMUNITY. I KNOW YOU COME TO
THIS MEETING WITH YOUR MIND MADE
UP, BUT IT IS JUST A SIGN OF
COURAGE AND STRENGTH TO BE ABLE
TO MEET A MOMENT WHERE IT IS AND
CHANGE YOUR MIND AND I THINK
WE'VE ALL HEARD ENOUGH TODAY TO
KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR
COMMUNITY. AND I URGE YOU TO
VOTE NO ON THE EXPANSION
SURVEILLANCE IN SEATTLE. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS
DENNIS BAKER AND THEN JAY
FOXCOVE. GO AHEAD DILLAN.
>> HI, MY NAME IS DILLAN BAKER
I'M ALSO SPEAKING TO OPPOSE THE
EXPANSION OF THE SURVEILLANCE
NETWORK. YOU HEARD PLENTY OF
COUNTER ARGUMENTS AT THIS POINT
SO I WILL KEEP IT PERSONAL AND
ON ONE POINT. I'M THE LEAD
RESEARCH ENGINEER AT THE
DISTRIBUTED AI RESEARCH
INSTITUTE. I STUDY HARMS OF
TECHNOLOGY AND BIAS. I'M A
SEATTLE HOMEOWNER IN DISTRICT
ONE. I DO A LOT OF STUDYING OF
TECHNOLOGY, WHO BUILDS IT, HOW
IT'S BUILT. I'VE BEEN WORKING
IN TECH FOR A LONG TIME. IPSE
THE WAY THIS STUFF IS DEVELOPED.
THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE NOT
CREATED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE
EXPERTS IN KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE.
THEY'RE CREATED BY PEOPLE WHO
ARE EXPERTS AT BUILDING CAMERAS
AND SELLING THEM TO POLICE
DEPARTMENTS. THEY MARKET THEIR
TECHNOLOGY HOWEVER THEY
IMMEDIATE TO AND YOU ARE
REPRESENTATIVES ARE THEIR TARGET
AUDIENCE. I'VE WATCHED THIS
HAPPEN SO MANY TIMES BEFORE. THE
PEOPLE WHO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, WHO
STUDY HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE
LOOK AT HOUSING AND EXPANDED
LIBRARY HOURS. THAT KEEPS PEOPLE
SAFE.
>> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS
SHAR SMITH WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED
BY JEFF FOXTROBE. GO AHEAD SHAR.
>> HELLO MY NAME IS SHAR SMITH.
I'M CALLING TO SAY HELL NO TO
THE EXPANSION OF THIS
SURVEILLANCE. A VOTE IS A VOTE
FOR TRUMP'S FASCIST AGENDA.
CIVIL RIGHTS ARE AN IMPEDIMENT
TO OUR GROWTH RATHER THAN A
NECESSITY AND SAFETY OF OUR
COMMUNITY. THIS WILL NOT MAKE
ANY OF US SAFER BUT IT WILL MAKE
SURE THAT TRUMP'S GOONS WILL BE
ASSISTED BID BOTH SPD AND THIS
QUEST TO TEAR OUR FAMILIES AND
SEND PEOPLE TO CAMPS IN EL
SALVADOR AND ELSEWHERE.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JAY
FOXGLOBE.
>> I'M JOINING THE CHORUS OF
VOICES CALLING YOU TO VOTE NO TO
THE EXPANSION. I HOPE OUR TIME
AND TESTIMONY WILL NOT BE IN
VEIN. WE HAVE NO ASSURANCES AS
TO HOW IT WILL NOT FALL INTO THE
HANDS OF I.C.E. AND OTHER
AGENCIES. YOU CANNOT PAT
YOURSELF IN THE BACK OF CREATING
A CULTURE OF INCLUSIVETY IF
YOU'RE THREATENING THE SAFETY
OF VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES BY
FOLLOWING THEIR EVERY MOVE AS
THEY GO ABOUT THEIR LIFE. TIME
AND AGAIN YOUR CONSTITUENCY AND
FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT
FORWARD STORIES THAT STRESS THE
DIFFERENCE FUNDING CAN MAKE TO
STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY RESOURCES
AND HELP FOLKS FACING HEALTH
EMERGENCIES AND THOSE IN HOUSING
BRACKETS. INCREASING
SURVEILLANCE WILL NOT REDUCE
CRIME AND WILL ENDANGER THE
COMMUNITIES AND KEEP SEATTLE TO
BE WHAT IT IS.
>> AND OUR LAST REMOTE SPEAKER
FOR THIS GROUP, BECKY SESSA. GO
AHEAD DAVID.
>> HI, NO MORE USE OF CRIME
FIGHTING TOOLS. IT'S LIKE GUN
TOTING CRIMINAL WALKS UP AND
ROBS MY EMPLOYEES IN THE STADIUM
DISTRICT AGAIN, WE NEED A MORE
DETAILED VIDEO AND A CAPABILITY
TO DEPLOY A DRONE, TO HONE IN ON
A PERPETRATOR ATTEMPTING TO RUN
AND CHANGE THE COLOR OF THEIR
SHIRT AROUND THE CORNER.
BECAUSE, BY THE TIME THE COPS
GET INFORMED IT TURNS OUT MOST
WILL BE INSIDE THE SEA HAWKS
GAME IN OPPOSING TEAMS JERSEYS
MAKING OVERTIME ENTRAMPING DRUNK
SEA HAWK FANS. WHILE NOT EVEN
TIED TO FIGHT CRIME AROUND THE
DISTRICT. WE NEED DRONES TO HONE
IN ON A PERPETRATOR AND TIE IN
THE KIOSKS TO THE STADIUM
NETWORK OF CCTV CAMERAS AND MAKE
IT MORE DEPLOYABLE AND USER
FRIENDLY. AND YOU KNOW, RELY ON
THE VETTING AND PROPER HIRING
AND TRAINING.
>> THANK YOU OUR LAST SPEAKER
FOR THIS REMOTE GROUP IS BECKY
CESSA. GO AHEAD BECKY.
>> HI.
>> THANK YOU, GO AHEAD.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. I'M
COMING FROM AN ALLERGY
APPOINTMENT. OKAY, WE DO NOT
WANT MORE SURVEILLANCE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES AND ACLU WASHINGTON
HAS WRITTEN A LETTER WITH
STUDIES SHOWCASING WHY THESE
TECHNOLOGIES ARE NOT ACCESSIVE
AND VIOLATE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS. AND
ENSURE THEY IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.
EXCUSE ME. OR DO NOT SHOW UP IN
IMMIGRATION HEARINGS. THERE HAVE
BEEN DATA SHARING INCIDENTS AT
THE STATE LEVEL. WHAT MAKES ME
FEEL UNSAFE AT THE MOMENT IS THE
OVERREACH OF OUR FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WITH THE RACIST
TARGETING OF THE PEOPLE I CARE
ABOUT. I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF
GROWING UP IN IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITIES AND I WANT THEIR
SAFETY PRIORITIZED SINCE THEY
MAKE THIS CITY A PLACE I WANT TO
LIVE. THIS SURVEILLANCE IS NOT
ONLY UNNECESSARY BUT I OPPOSE
THE CONSEQUENCES.
>> THANK YOU, WE'LL NOW MOVE
BACK TO IN PERSON PUBLIC
COMMENTERS.
>> OKAY OUR NEXT, EXCUSE ME OUR
NEXT SPEAKERS ARE GOING TO BE
KATE RUBENS. BETHNY MILLER,
SANDY H. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE
KATE RUBEN. THANKS.
>> HI, COCHAIR OF THE SEATTLE
RENTERS COMMISSION. THE PROPOSED
MASS SURVEILLANCE EXPANSION
DISPROPORTIONALLY TARGETS
RENTERS, BLACK INDIGENOUS AND
OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR AND QUEER,
TRANS, DISABLED AND LOW INCOME.
SPD PLANS TO ACCEPT LIVE FEED
FROM APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
RESIDENTS CAN BE SURVEILLED AND
TRACKED FROM THE MOMENT THEY
LEAVE THEIR HOMES. WE'RE FACING
THREATS. IT'S TIME TO TAKE THE
MOMENT WE'RE IN SERIOUSLY. A 40
YEAR META ANALYSIS FOUND THAT
SURVEILLANCE HAS NO EFFECT ON
VIOLENT CRIME. YOU'RE
CONSIDERING PUTTING OUR SAFETY,
PRIVACY AND CIVIL LIBERTIES AT
RISKS, FOR WHAT EXACTLY. THE
RENTERS COMMISSION JOINS THE
OFFICER FOR CIVIL RIGHTS, POLICE
COMMISSION.
>>> THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE BEEN
VERY CHARRABLE TO YOU.
CHARITABLE. THEY'VE MADE
LOGICAL ARGUMENTS ON WHY THIS
PROGRAM IS NOT RIGHT. IT'S
DONALD TRUMP ON A SILVER PLATTER
BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S SAFER FOR
YOU TO LIVE ON THE RIGHT HAND OF
THE DEVIL INSTEAD OF UNDER HIS
BOOTS. BECAUSE YOU'RE COWARDS.
I'M NOT SHEER TO TELL YOU TO
VOTE NO. WHAT I'M HERE TO
REMIND YOU THEY'RE BUILDING A
BUNKER IN NEW ZEALAND BECAUSE
THEY NEED SOME WHERE TO HIDE
FROM US. WHEN THE POWER GRID
GOES DOWN, THEY'RE NOT BRINGING
YOU WITH THEM. WHEN WE START
EATING PEOPLE, WE'RE GOING TO
REMEMBER WHO VOTED FOR THESE
THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO KNOW
YOUR NAME, YOUR FACES, WE'RE
GOING TO KNOW YOUR FAMILIES,
WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHERE YOU
LIVE. ALL FOR WHAT TWO PARTS,
USED MOTOR OIL, ONE PART:
>> PLEASE PROCEED.
>> HI, PLEASE READ THE CCTV ASR
LISTS THE ORIGINAL LOCATIONS AS
BEING PART OF THE PILOT AND
VIOLENT OMISSION AS A DEPLOYMENT
THAT IS PERMANENT. A RECORD
AMOUNT OF PEOPLE SUBMITTED
COMMENT AND 60 ORGANIZATIONLESS.
-- ORGANIZATIONINGS. --
ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING CASA
LATINA. PLUS THE COMMUNITY
SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP,
POLICE COMMISSION AND SEATTLE
RUN COMMISSION. AS THE AUGUST
PRIMARY SHOWED, THE MAJORITY OF
VOTERS WILL NOT HAPPY WITH THE
COUNCIL'S ACTIONS AND DO NOT
WANT THESE TECHNOLOGIES. ANYONE
WHO VOTES WILL CLEARLY NOT BE
REELECTED. PLEASE VOTE NO ON
BOTH COUNCIL BILLS, THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE SD.
>> HI, I'M A RESIDENT IN
DISTRICT 5 AND I OFTEN AT LEAST
ONCE SOMETIMES TWICE A DAY, I
PASS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION OF
AURORA AND 85th WHERE THIS
TECHNOLOGY ALREADY EXISTS ON
ALMOST EVERY SINGLE CORNER OF
IT. I FEEL GREAT SHAME BECAUSE
ABOUT A MONTH AGO, I WAS SITTING
AT THAT LIGHT. I WAS ABOUT SEVEN
CARS DEEP. AT THE CORNER IS A
GAS STATION WHICH HAS ABOUT
FOUR, FOUR CAMERAS ON THE ROOF
OF IT AND HARDLY EVER SEE ANY
VEHICLES GO IN THERE AND GET
GAS. BUT THERE WAS A DILAPIDATED
RV PARKED AT THE, ONE OF THE
STATION GAS PUMPS. AND WHILE I
WAS WAITING, I SAW SPD COME TO
THAT GAS STATION. AND THE OWNER
OF THAT RV WAS ABOUT TO EXIT AND
LEAVE, BUT THE, THEY CAME AND
THEY HARASSED HIM FOR EXPIRED
TABS. HARASSED HIM FOR EXPIRED
TABS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> CAMERON FRAIZER AND THEN
CASEY AND EDEN. CAMERON, CASEY.
>> ALL RIGHT, HELLO MY NAME IS
CAMERON SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
TECH FOUR HOUSING IN OPPOSITION
TO PROPOSED EXPANSION OF VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE IN SEATTLE. THIS
PROPOSAL COMES AS ICE IS HUNTING
DOWN THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR
COMMUNITY. WE KNOW THIS TYPE OF
DATA IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO --
IN THIS CONTEXT THE PUBLIC
ABSOLUTELY CANNOT ENTRUST
SURVEILLANCE TECH TO THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WITH MORE JANUARY 6th
ATTENDEES THAN ANY OTHER IN THE
COUNTRY. OR THE DEPARTMENT
WHO'S UNION PRESIDENT SAID THE
ARMS TAKE OVER OF DC SHOULD
SERVE AS A BLUEPRINT FOR
POLICING NATIONWIDE. THIS
SUMMER, SEATTLE RESIDENTS SPENT
MONTHS IN PRISON. THAT PERSON
HAPPENED TO BE AN AMAZON
EMPLOYEE AND THE RESOURCES TO
DEFEND HIM. OTHER CITIES HAVE
BROUGHT DOWN CRIME FASTER WITH
PROGRAMS FOR HEALTH. THIS
PROGRAM WOULD.
>> CASEY THEN EDEN.
>> HELLO MY NAME IS CASEY AND
I'M LIVING IN CAPITOL HILL.
JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE WE
WANT YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS
PROGRAM. IT DOES NOT HELP KEEP
PEOPLE SAFE. AS AN ER NURSE, I
KEEP PEOPLE SAFE AND THAT'S NOT
BY SURVEILLANCING CONSTANTLY.
IT'S BY OFFERING THEM SUPPORT
AND HELP WHEN THEY NEED IT. WHAT
IN THE 1974 ARE WE DOING. WHY
ARE WE TRYING TO SURVEY MYSELF
WALKING TO THE PARK OR GOING TO
THE GROCERY STORE. IT DOESN'T
HELP ANYBODY. I HOPE THOSE WHO
HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND
BRING THE CONSTITUENTS. WE ALL
COME IN HOPES YOU WILL APPEAL. I
CAN SEE PEOPLE ARE NOT MAKING
EYE CONTACT WITH US. THEY'RE
READING THEIR E-MAILS. WE WANT
TO BE SAFE TOO.
>> WE HAVE EDEN. AFTER EDEN
IT'LL BE BETHNY.
>> MY NAME IS EDEN ARMSTRONG.
I'M WITH THE UNIQUE OPINION OF
NOT AGREEING. I'M A TRANSWOMAN
WHO COMES FROM FLORIDA. A
REPUBLICAN STATE AND I HAVE A
CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT
SURVEILLANCE IS. I HAVE TO WORRY
IF I USE THE BATHROOM OF MY
CHOICE. USING THESE CCTV CAMERAS
ALLOWING THE CITY TO SET UP THIS
KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE ALLOWS
THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION TO
USE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
APOLOGIES. IF YOU THINK THAT IS
NOT POSSIBLE, IF YOU THINK OH IT
COULDN'T HAPPEN HERE I ASSURE
YOU IT COULD. HARVARD ONE OF THE
MOST RENOWNED INSTITUTIONS WAS
NOT ABLE TO KEEP UP AGAINST THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. IN WHAT
WORLD DO YOU THINK THAT IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN TO
THE CITY OF SEATTLE. IT CAN AND
IT WILL. CREATING AND ENFORCING
THIS PROGRAM IN A FAR BIGGER
MANNER THAN IT HAS BEEN WILL
ONLY SEEK TO HURT MINORITY
GROUPS THAT YOU WORK SO HARD TO
PROTECT. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO,
THANK YOU.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON CITY COUNCIL,
MY NAME IS BETHANY MILLER. I
ECHO THE CONCERNS OF MANY OF
THESE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE
SPOKEN TODAY. THAT THIS WILL NOT
PREVENT CRIME, MERELY DOCUMENT
THE CRIMES THAT HAPPEN. WE HAVE
BETTER WAYS TO SPEND MONEY IN
THIS CITY. THINGS THAT COULD
REALLY IMPROVE THE LIVES OF
PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. MORE THAN
BEING SURVEILLED. WITH THE
CURRENT REGIME THAT IS IN PLACE
IN DC, I THINK IT IS NOT, IF
NONE OF US ARE SAFER HAVING THIS
DATA OUT THERE. I ALSO BELIEVE
THAT ONCE WE SEE THIS PRIVACY,
IT IS REALLY HARD TO GET IT
BACK. ONCE THESE CAMERAS ARE IN
PLACE, TAKING THEM DOWN, IS
REALLY HARD. ONCE A FASCIST
REGIME COMES IN IT'S HARD TO
GET THEM OUT. THAT IS WHY WE
NEED TO RESIST NOW. BOB I'M
HERE, YOU'RE MY NEIGHBOR. I'M
HERE REPRESENTING MY FAMILY AND
A LARGE GROUP OF YOUR NEIGHBORS
ON QUEEN ANNE WHO COULD NOT BE
HERE TODAY. WE ARE BEGGING YOU.
>> THANK YOU. SANDY THEN WE'LL
MOVE INTO REMOTE SPEAKERS.
>> HELLO CITY COUNCIL, THANKS
FOR HEARING US SPEAK. MY NAME IS
SANDY HAH I LIVE IN DISTRICT
THREE. I'M A HOMEOWNER AND A 17
YEAR RESIDENT OF SEATTLE. I URGE
YOU ALL TO VOTE NO ON COUNCIL
BILLS 121052 AND 121053. THE
SEATTLE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS,
DID A THIRD PARTY ASSESSMENT OF
THESE BILLS AND THEY ADVISED
AGAINST PASSING THESE BILLS.
THEY EVADED THE ORDNANCE 13576.
I ASK YOU, IN WHAT WAY
IMPLEMENTING THESE BILLS WOULD
ACTUALLY SUSTAIN THE COMMITMENT
OF THIS COUNCIL TO UPHOLD THE
SURVEILLANCE ORDNANCE. WHAT HAS
BEEN SHOWN WITH RTCC IS
INCONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF IT
ACTUALLY PREVENTING SERIOUS
CRIMES. IT'S COST AND RESOURCE
INTENSIVE. WHICH MEANS BOTH
MONEY AND ENERGY COST TO MONITOR
IT AS WELL AS --
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> OUR NEXT THREE REMOTE
SPEAKERS.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY WE HAVE
FOUR IN PERSON, SIX REMOTES. I
AM, AND WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER
WHO HAS A HARD STOP AT 7:00 AND
THERE COULD BE OTHERS THAT I
DON'T KNOW ABOUT. SO MY PLAN IS
TO HAVE EVERYBODY SPEAK. PLEASE,
AND THEN WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO
OUR ITEMS OF BUSINESS.
>> ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GO
WITH THE FIRST THREE REMOTE
SPEAKERS, JACOB, SANCHEZ BACA.
FOLLOWED BY JUNE FREEMAN AND
THEN OISEN GUNNING. GO AHEAD
JACOB. OKAY. JACOB PRESS STAR
SIX. WHY YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO JUNE
FREEMAN, GO AHEAD. OH HERE WE GO
JACOB. I THINK I SEE YOU. GO
AHEAD. OKAY WE WILL MOVE TO JUNE
FREEMAN AND OISON GUNNING. GO
AHEAD JUNE.
>> MY NAME IS JUNE, I'M A
DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT. SO MANY
COMMENTERS HAVE CLEARLY
EXPLAINED HOW THIS PREMATURE
SURVEILLANCE IS UNSTUDIED AND
THAT SURVEILLANCE IS DANGEROUS
AND THE CRIMINALIZATION OF BASIC
HEALTH CARE. ON A PERSONAL NOTE,
THE PROPOSED CAMERA PLACEMENT IN
AND AROUND WOULD SURVEIL ME FROM
SHORTLY AFTER I WALK OUT MY
DOOR. I WOULD BE WATCHED IN
REALTIME WHEN I WALK THROUGH THE
WEST SIDE OF THE PARK TO THE
GROCERY STORE OR FARMERS MARKET.
AND WHEN I SIT IN THE PARK WITH
MY FRIENDS IN MY COMMUNITY.
THAT'S A PLACE WHERE I FEEL
SAFE, AND WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO
ME AND I JUST, I WANT YOU TO --
WHETHER ANY OF THE COUNCIL
MEMBERS WOULD WANT THAT FOR
YOURSELF. PLEASE VOTE NO.
>> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS
OISON GUNNING WHICH WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY JACOB SANCHEZ BACCA.
GO AHEAD OISON.
>> HELLO MY NAME IS USHING
GUNNING. I'M A HIGH SCHOOL
TEACHER. AND I JUST LIKE
EVERYBODY ELSE HERE AM CALLING
TO EXPRESS EXTREME DISAPPROVAL
AT THIS EXPANSION OF THE RTCC.
NOBODY WANTS THIS. THIS IS THE
KIND OF THING THAT ONCE YOU OPEN
THE DOOR IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO
ROLL BACK. ONCE YOU SET UP
SECURITY CAMERAS IT'S VERY HARD
TO UNDO THAT. AND AS EVERYONE
ELSE HAS SAID, ESPECIALLY IN THE
CONTEXT OF I.C.E. RAIDS.
INVASIONS OF THE CITY, EQUALLY
IRRESPONSIBLE. IF YOU THINK SPD
IS GOING TO SAY NO WHEN I.C.E.
COMES ASKING FOR SURVEILLANCE. I
ALSO I GUESS WOULD JUST, AS
OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, ABOUT
THE PLACEMENT OF THESE THINGS
THIS IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY
OUTSIDE MY FRONT DOOR. EVERY
TIME AS THE LAST COMMENTER SAID.
EVERY TIME I LEAVE MY HOUSE I'M
GOING TO BE ON CAMERA. I WOULD
NOTE THAT IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF
ANY OF YOUR HOUSES. HOW WOULD
YOU FEEL IF I.C.E. WOULD SIT
OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE AND FILM
YOU EVERY DAY AND PROMISE YOU
THAT THEY WILL DELETE IT EVERY
30 DAYS. NO.
>>> GO AHEAD ZOEY.
>>> HELLO MY NAME IS ZOEY. AS
MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE
ALREADY EXPRESSED, WE KNOW
I.C.E. HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO
USE THESE CAMERAS TO HUNT DOWN
OUR VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS.
EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE WILL ONLY
OPEN THE DOOR TO PROFILING AND
PUT LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AT
FURTHER RISK. SURVEILLANCE DOES
NOT STOP CRIME. SUPPORTING OUR
CITIZENS DOES. PEOPLE NEED
HOUSING AND HEALTH CARE AND
COMMUNITY RESOURCES NOT MORE
CAMERAS WATCHING THEIR EVERY
MOVE. THERE COULD NOT BE A WORSE
TIME FOR SEATTLE TO RUSH THROUGH
SUCH AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS
POLICY. IF COUNCIL TRULY WANTS
TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE, IT'S
STRONGER PROTECTION GREATER
ACCOUNTABILITY IN SUPPORT.
>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALBERTO
ALVAREZ FOLLOWED BY SEAN ISAM.
TWO AHEAD ALBERTO.
>> COUNCIL, NOT SURVEILLANCE
TOOLS ALREADY BEING USED TO
PERSECUTE PEOPLE ACROSS THE
NATION. NO PROMISE OR GUARANTEE
CAN PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES.
ONLY STOPPING THIS EXPANSION CAN
PREVENT IT FROM BEING
WEAPONIZED. IT IS A FACT THAT
THE ADMINISTRATION IS ALREADY
KIDNAPPING OUR IMMIGRANT
NEIGHBORS ATTACKING THE RIGHTS
OF THE LGBT AND VERY SOON THE
FREEDOMS OF WOMEN. ABORTION CARE
AND TRANSCARE PATIENTS WILL FALL
VICTIM TO BOUNTY HUNTER LAWS
FROM OTHER STATES. TELLING
ENTIRE COMMUNITIES THEIR CITY
WILL ENDANGER THEIR FREEDOM IN
INHUMANE AND DISCRIMINATORY.
THIS COUNCIL IS HAPPY TO SAY A
LOT AND DO NOTHING. TO HELP
COMMUNITIES WHO ARE IN CRISIS AS
OF THIS VERY MOMENT. STOP
EXPANDING MASS SURVEILLANCE,
STOP SERVING UP OUR CITY TO A
FASCIST TAKE OVER. HAVE A GOOD
DAY.
>> THANK YOU OUR LAST REMOTE
SPEAKER IS SEAN ISAM. GO AHEAD
SEAN.
>> HELLO MY NAME IS SEAN ISAM.
GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS,
I LIVE IN ROB SAKA'S DISTRICT.
YOU ALL IGNORED OUR OUTCRY TO
KEEP THE SPD LEAST LETHAL WEAPON
IN PLACE. TODAY I'M NOT HERE TO
PLEAD YOU. YOU NEED TO VOTE NO
ON CB121052 AND CB121053. I.C.E.
AND DHS HAVE ALREADY BEEN
KIDNAPPING OUR STATE AND CITIES
CITIZENS FROM THE FEDERAL
COURTHOUSE. DOWN ON SECOND
AVENUE AND HAULING THEM DOWN TO
THE NORTHWEST DETENTION CENTER
IN TACOMA UNTIL THEY CAN BE
FLOWN OUT OF THE KING COUNTY
AIRPORT ON MULTIPLE WEEKLY
DEPORTATION FLIGHTS ACROSS THE
STREET FROM THE MUSEUM OF
FLIGHT. IF YOU CAN ACKNOWLEDGE
THIS. THE DATA IS NOT ON THE
SIDE OF THIS PROPOSAL. YOUR
CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT ON THIS
SIDE OF THE PROPOSAL.
>> WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO IN
PERSON SPEAKERS.
>> I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE
SPEAKER. IT'S KIRK ROBINS THEN
WE CAN MOVE INTO IN PERSON.
>> I AM KIRK ROBINS. IF THERE'S
A KIRK ROBINS OUT THERE, GO
AHEAD.
>> HI I'M KIRK ROBINS FROM
DISTRICT SIX. I AM ADDRESSING
AGENDA ITEM SIX WHICH INVOLVES
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. IT
SEEMS LIKE CALLING 160 POLES
BETWEEN THEM IS NOT MAINTENANCE.
AND IT'S EXEMPT ON THE PRETEXT
OF IT BEING ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.
I WATCHED THE HEARING, I
COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE
COMMITTEE IGNORED THIS AFTER
HAVING BROUGHT TO THEIR
ATTENTION BY ONE OF THE
COMMENTERS. THERE ARE TREATY,
FEDERAL TREATIES PROTECTING
BIRDS. THERE'S AN EXEMPTION
REQUIRED FROM THE FAA FOR THIS
MATTER. I CAN'T REALLY EXPECT
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE
PROACTIVE IN MATTERS LIKE THIS.
BUT I THINK THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION IS MORE THAN JUST A
CHORE. IT'S MORE THAN SOMETHING
THAT KICKS IN WHEN YOU'RE
DEALING WITH A FEDERAL SUPER
FUND DESIGNATION. OR GAS STOVES.
I THINK, GO GET BACK TO TAKING
THIS SERIOUSLY AND THINK OF IT
AS A DUTY RATHER THAN A CHORE.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO
IN PERSON SPEAKERS. WE HAVE
TIMOTHY KITCHEN AL TIFFANY
BURKES AND THEN COCO WEBER.
TIMOTHY.
>> HI THERE COUNCIL MEMBER.
MEMBERS, EVERYONE. I'VE MET
SOME OF YOU BEFORE. MY NAME IS
TIMOTHY KITCHEN. I'M FROM
FREEMONT. I HAVE LIVED PRESIDENT
OF THE STUDENT BODY IN SEATTLE.
SO MOST OF YOU CAMPAIGN ON
EVIDENCE BASED POLICY. MY ASK
YOU KEEP YOUR PROMISE AND LET
THE PILOT PROGRAM COMPLETE AND
BE ANALYZED AS INTENDED. THIS IS
PERSONAL. MY FAMILY IS PART
HISPANIC. I'M BASICALLY
TERRIFIED THE KIDS IN MY FAMILY
WHO LOOK HISPANIC WILL BE
DEPORTED TO DEATH CAMPS.
EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE WILL
INCREASE THAT RISK. A WEEK AGO,
TRUMP TRIED TO DEPORT FAMILIES
TO SOUTH AMERICA. TRUMP WOULD
LIKE NOTHING MORE THAN TO SEE MY
FAMILY MURDERED. NO LAW WE PASS
CAN PROTECT US FROM POSSIBLE
FEDERAL FASCIST ACCESS. THANK
YOU.
>> AL.
>> OKAY LET'S GET STRAIGHT TO
THE POINT. ESSENTIALLY TODAY YOU
ARE VOTING FOR SURVEILLANCE THAT
WILL TRACK US EACH AND EVERY
MINUTE OF OUR LIVES. WE WILL
HAVE OUR MOVEMENTS DOCUMENTED IN
ACTS ON CAMERA USING AI THAT IS
REFRESHED EACH MONTH TO TRACK
US. THEY WILL HAVE 30 DAYS TO
TRACK US. AND THIS DATA WILL BE
MADE AVAILABLE TO I.C. E. IT
WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE
FEDS, AND IT WILL BE MADE
AVAILABLE TO TRUMP. WHO WILL BE
ABLE TO USE THIS INFORMATION TO
TRACK DOWN ANYONE THEY CONSIDER
A DECENTER. THIS IS CRIMINAL.
THIS IS A SURVEILLANCE STATE
THAT YOU ARE INSTALLING TODAY.
AND YOU ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND IT
EVEN FURTHER THAN THIS. THIS IS
RIDICULOUS. AND FOR A FACT, THIS
IS ENABLING A NAZI ORGANIZATION.
THIS IS ENABLING PEOPLE THAT ARE
TAKING OUR NEIGHBORS OUT OF
THEIR HOMES. THIS IS ENABLING
PEOPLE TO BE STOLEN OUT OF THEIR
PLACE THEY CALL HOME. AND WE
WILL NOT FORGET EACH OF YOUR
NAMES. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF
YOU'RE TEMPORARY. IF IT
DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE ON
YOUR WAY OUT. IT DOES NOT
MATTER. PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
>> WE HAVE TIFFANY THEN COCOA.
>> HELLO SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS TIFFANY AND I'M THE
ADVOCACY ORGANIZER FOR THE
WASHINGTON IMMIGRANT SOLIDARITY
NETWORK. WISEN FOR SHORT. I'M
ALSO A SEATTLE RESIDENT, A
WOMANIST, BLACK FEMINIST, AND
FREEDOM FIGHTER. I'M PROUD TO
CALL SEATTLE MY HOME AND I'M
EVEN MORE PROUD TO STAND IN
OPPOSITION OF SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGY. I HAVEN'T EVEN
HEARD ONE PERSON SPEAKING IN
SUPPORT. SO I THINK IT'S A NO
BRAINER TO VOTE NO ON THIS. SPD
HAS ONLY STARTED USING THIS
PROGRAM THREE MONTHS AGO. SO
THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR
THE EXPANSE. I HAVE ATTENDED
OVER 200 PROTESTS AND NEVER FELT
SAFE WITH A DRONE CAMERA OR
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. THANK
YOU.
>> HELLO MY NAME IS COCO AND
I'M A TEACHER IN SEATTLE. I
LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. I TEACH
IN DISTRICT FOUR. AND BEFORE I
BEGIN I WANT TO SAY I HOPE YOU
HON HONOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE
COMMUNITY WHO IS ARE QUEER, WHO
ARE PUTTING THEIR LIVES AT RISK
COMING ON TV SAYING PLEASE THANK
YOU OF OUR LIVES. NOW I WANT TO
SPEAK AS A TEACHER. I WORK WITH
CHILDREN WITH LEARNING
DISABILITIES. I WORK WITH OUR
MOST, OUR MOST EMERGING STUDENTS
IN OUR SCHOOLS. SO KIDS WITH
AUTISM, MULTILINGUAL LEARNERS,
IMMIGRANT FAMILIES. AND YOU CAN
IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A
KID WHO'S NOT DOING TOO WELL IN
SCHOOL. WELL, I DO KNOW BECAUSE
I USED TO WORK IN THE KING
COUNTY. I VOLUNTEERED IN THE
KING COUNTY JAIL AS A TUTOR
SUPPORTING PEOPLE GETTING THEIR
GED. SO WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN
YOUR COUNTY JAIL WHO ALL NEED
THEIR GED. WE ARE FAILING.
SEATTLE'S OWN REPORE IS THAT IN
EARLY.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE TO BE
FAIR TO EVERYBODY. SO PLEASE.
>> THAT WAS OUR LAST REGISTERED
SPEAKER, PRESIDENT.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH EVERYBODY FOR COMING
OUT. AND FOR BEING SO RESPECTFUL
TO EACH OTHER. AND FOR EVERYBODY
STICKING IT SO THAT WE COULD
HEAR ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. WE
WILL NOW PROCEED WITH OUR ITEMS
OF BUSINESS. SO PUBLIC COMMENT
IS NOW CLOSED AND WE WILL
PROCEED. OKAY IF THERE'S NO
OBJECTION, NO IF THERE'S NO
OBJECTION, THE CALENDAR WILL BE
ADOPTED. HEARING NO OBJECTION,
THE CALENDAR IS ADOPTED. IF
THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING
NONE, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WE
WILL NOW CONSIDER THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AND THE ITEMS ARE, THE
MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 2, 2025,
COUNCIL BILL 121070 WHICH IS
PAYMENT OF THE BILLS AND 19
APPOINTMENTS FROM THE CITY
COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS
COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE REMOVED FROM TODAY'S
CONSENT CALENDAR? ALL RIGHT
SEEING NONE. IS THERE A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIV ERA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLINGS WORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> AYE.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE PLACE
MY SIGNATURE ON THE ITEM ON MY
BEHALF.
>> ITEM ONE, COUNCIL 121065.
>> I MOVE. IS THERE A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> OKAY THIS BILL AUTHORIZING
THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENT CBA BETWEEN THE CITY
OF SEATTLE AND THE SEATTLE FIRE
CHIEFS ASSOCIATION IAFF LOCAL
2898 EFFECTIVE FROM JANUARY 1,
2022 THROUGH DECEMBER 31st,
2026. IT IMPLEMENTING A
RETROACTIVE FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT
BETWEEN JANUARY 1, 2022 AND
DECEMBER 31, 2026. THE AGREEMENT
AFFECTS 31 EMPLOYEES AND
INCLUDES 4.67 IN RETROACTIVE
PAYMENTS. THERE'S ALSO 2.75 TO
BE INCLUDED IN THE 2026 PROPOSED
BUDGET TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE
CBA. THE WAGE INCREASES ARE 4%
IN 2022. 5% IN 2023, 4% IN 2024,
4% IN 2025, AND 5% IN 2026. ALL
RIGHT ORIGINALLY I WAS GOING TO
HAVE CENTRAL STAFF UP HERE TO
PRESENT THE LEGISLATION. BUT DUE
TO OUR TIME CONSTRAINTS I WILL
JUST SIMPLY ASK IF THERE'S ANY
QUESTIONS AND IF SO, WE CAN
SUSPEND THE RULES AND HAVE
CENTRAL STAFF COME TO THE TABLE.
GO AHEAD COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I JUST WANTED TO AS A PART OF
THE PUBLIC SAFETY, I WORK WITH
THE SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ENSURE
THAT WE DO HAVE THESE LABOR
AGREEMENTS ON THE RANK AND FILE
WITH LOCAL 27. WE'VE BEEN SET
BUT FOR THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP
IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE AND
IT'S TIME TO GET THIS RESET.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO SO AND
I ALSO SHOULD NOTE, THIS IS LONG
DELAYED. THERE'S DIFFERENT
REASONS FOR THAT. BUT IT'S ALSO
DELAYED OVER A PERIOD WHERE WE
HAD HIGH INFLATION AS WELL.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE DYNAMICS
THAT ARE IN PLAY. BUT IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT TO SUPPORT THE
SENIOR LEADERSHIP OF THE SEATTLE
FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO, THANK YOU
COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND I, SUPPORT
THIS BILL. THANK YOU FOR THOSE
COMMENTS. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER
COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT I'M NOT
SEEING ANY. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ON THE
PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> AYE.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX
THE SIGNATURE ON MY BEHALF. WILL
THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM TWO
INTO THE RECORD.
>> COUNCIL PWEB 121070. AN
ORDNANCE APPROPRIATING MONEY TO
PAY IMPACT REPORT AND 2025
EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW FOR THE
SEATTLE CITY DEPARTMENT USE OF
CLOSE CIRCUIT.
>> YOU'RE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER
TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY RECORD.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I FIRST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU
FOR EVERYONE WHO'S COME FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT. IN ADDITION TO
THAT WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF
E-MAILS, LETTERS AND OTHER INPUT
RECEIVED BY THE COUNCIL WHEN
WE'RE OUT AND ABOUT. IT'S
BASICALLY AN EVERY DAY
EXPERIENCE. I THANK YOU ALL FOR
THAT. COLLEAGUES COUNCIL BILL
PATH TO GET TO THIS POINT TODAY
STARTED LAST YEAR WITH OUR
AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER.
ALPR LEGISLATION. WE RECEIVED A
GREAT AMOUNT OF INPUT THAT LED
TO MAJOR AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL.
AND THEN THESE AMENDMENTS AND
THAT PROCESS ALSO WERE
INFLUENTIAL IN DRAFTING OF THE
ORIGINAL CCTV AND THE RTCC THE
REALTIME CRIME CENTER BILLS.
WHICH WAS FURTHER AMENDED BY THE
COUNCIL LAST YEAR. THE RESULT
BEING, A CCTV AND REALTIME CRIME
CENTER BILLS THAT WERE SEATTLE
CCTV AND REALTIME CRIME CENTER
BILLS THAT WERE REPRESENTING
SEATTLE VALUES AND THE SEATTLE
WAY. OUR ALPR CCTV AND RTCC
BILLS ARE NOT STANDARD BILLS.
THEY ARE NOT STANDARD BILLS.
THEY DO NOT REPRESENT WHAT YOU
SEE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE
COUNTY. AND THEY'RE NOT RED
STATE, BLUE STATE SEATTLE --
BLUE STATE BILLS, THEY'RE
SEATTLE BILLS. AND AGAIN THESE
AMENDS DO GENERATE FROM THE
COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED.
THIS ACROSS THE BOARD BY THE WAY
NOT JUST FOR THESE TWO BILLS
THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING TODAY. AND
THIS JUST SHOWS UP IN DIFFERENT
WAYS. FOR EXAMPLE, LAST WEEK WE
HAD SOME COMMENTERS AND THEY
WERE TALKING ABOUT FLOCK. FLOCK,
FLOCK, FLOCK. AT NO TIME WAS
FLOCK PART OF THIS. AT NO TIME.
I HAD MANY PEOPLE SAY HEY YOU
SHOULD LOOK INTO FLOCK. I SAID
THANK YOU BUT NO THANK YOU. WE
NEVER HAD FLOCK. DESPITE THE
FACT THAT THESE COMMENTS WERE
COMING AT US. THERE'S ALSO A
POINT THAT, ANY AND EVERY SWORN
OFFICER IN THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, COULD THEN TURN THIS
INFORMATION OVER TO FEDERAL
AUTHORITIES. I HAVE A LETTER
HERE FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE
THAT SPEAKS TO THE REALTIME
CRIME CENTER SYSTEMS AND IT SAYS
THERE'S ONLY 28 PEOPLE WHO HAVE
ACCESS TO FUSES WHICH IS THE
SYSTEM. THE PRIMARY SOFTWARE
SUPPORTING THE CRIME CENTER. OF
THOSE FOUR ITD EMPLOYEES, 23 ARE
REALTIME CRIME CENTER ANALYSIS
AND VIDEO SPECIALISTS AND ONE IS
A SWORN MEMBER OF THE SERVICE.
ONE IS A SWORN MEMBER OF THE
SERVICE. CAPTAIN JIM BRITT WHO
MANAGING THE REALTIME CRIME
CENTER. ALL 23 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
BACKGROUNDED AND ATTAINED CJIS
CERTIFICATION. I RAISE THAT
BECAUSE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF
HOW WE ARE DOING THIS AS OPPOSED
TO SOME OF THE
CHARACTERIZATIONS. IN ADDITION,
YOU KNOW THERE'S BEEN TALK
ABOUT FACIAL RECOGNITION AND THE
LIKE. WE DO NOT HAVE FACIAL
RECOGNITION. SEATTLE CITY OF
SEATTLE AND SPD DO NOT ALLOW ANY
FACIAL RECOGNITION SOFTWARE
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS
HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S COME
FROM THE MAYOR. FROM THE CHIEF
OF POLICE, CAPTAIN BRITT BUT
ALSO FROM US IN THE COUNCIL. SO,
DHS --
>> THERE WILL BE NO DISRUPTIONS
FROM THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE
CONTINUE. THAT IS DISRUPTIVE
BEHAVIOR, PLEASE REFRAIN.
>> COLLECTED BY THE CAMERAS
INCLUDED ALPR AND VIDEO. IT'S
NOT PROTECTED BY WASHINGTON
SHIELD LAWS. HAS NO ACCESS
REGARDING CIVIL MATTERS SUCH AS
IMMIGRATION. UNLESS THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT SUSPECTS -- SUBPOENAS
FOOTAGE FROM THE VENDOR WHICH WE
HAVE. THE OWNER OF THE DATA WHO
OWNS THE DATA AND THUS APPLIES
TO THE OWNER NOT WHERE THE DATA
IS STORED. THIS IS ANOTHER
EXAMPLE WHERE THIS COMES UP
AGAIN AND AGAIN BUT IT'S
DIFFERENT. DATA FROM THE CCTV
WILL BE SHARED TO THE FUSION
CENTERS. IN THAT SAME LETTER
FROM THE CHIEF, HE TALKS ABOUT
THERE'S ONLY ONE SWORN OFFICER
THERE. HE DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS
TO THE DATA. CAPTAIN BRITT IS
THE ONLY SWORN OFFICER WHO HAS
ACCESS TO THAT DATA. I THINK
THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO
AGAIN NOTE. TO THE POINT, KIND
OF MENTION CCTV IS USED FOR
CRIMES BUT IMMIGRATION STATUS IS
NOW CLASSIFIED AS A CRIME
ACCORDING TO THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. EXECUTIVE ORDER IS
NOT LAW. PLUS THE KEEP
WASHINGTON ACT 2019 IS QUITE
CLEAR ABOUT THIS WITH
IMMIGRATION CRIMES AND SO WE ARE
COVERED IN THIS SENSE. HOW LONG
DOES SPD RETAIN THE VIDEO
FOOTAGE. AND BY THE WAY, IF
THERE WAS SOME PIECE TO THAT, WE
DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TODAY THAT
WE'LL ADDRESS. THE DATA IS ON
THE CAMERA. IT STAYS THERE FOR
FIVE DAYS THEN IT'S OVER
WRITTEN. IT'S ONLY PULLED,
IT'S ONLY PULLED.
>> YOU ARE ENGAGING IN
DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR. THE SECOND
OF THE THIRD WARNING.
>> IT WILL ONLY BE PULLED WHEN
CUED BY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY,
POLICE OFFICERS OR DISPATCH.
TALK ABOUT CAMERAS WILL BE ON
RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND SEE INTO
PEOPLE'S HOMES AND THE LIKE.
THIS HAS COME UP AGAIN AND
AGAIN. AND I JUST WANTED TO
NOTE, THE MAYOR SAID THIS, AND I
HAVE SAID THIS. THERE WILL BE NO
DIRECT LINK BETWEEN REALTIME
CRIME CENTER AND RESIDENTIAL
USES. RESIDENTS, RESIDENTIAL
LOCATIONS. THERE IS NONE. THE
ONLY THING THAT IS BEING DONE IS
A REGISTRY WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY
A BLOCK WATCH PROGRAM. SO, FOR
EXAMPLE, IF SOMETHING WAS TO
HAPPEN IN A PART OF THE CITY AND
THEN THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER
ALONG WITH DISPATCH IS SAYING
HEY, WE HAVE THIS HAPPENING.
NORMALLY, DETECTIVES, OFFICERS
WOULD GO OUT DOOR KNOCK AROUND
THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY EXCUSE
ME DO YOU HAVE CAMERAS OR
ANYTHING YOU CAN ADD TO THIS
SITUATION. THE REGISTRY JUST
ALLOWS FOR THE REALTIME CRIME
BASICALLY SPD TO THEN GO TO THAT
HOME TO SAY HEY, EXCUSE ME, DO
YOU HAVE THAT? THEN THAT WOULD
COME IN JUST AS IN ANY OTHER
REGULAR INSTANCE -FPT THIS IS
NOT ANYTHING RELATED TO THE
REALTIME CRIME CENTER AND ITS
LINEAGES TO CCTV, APR AND THE
LIKES. THIS OFTEN COMES UP.
THESE OTHER LOCATIONS. THE
OAKLAND EXAMPLE WHICH WAS
TOTALLY DIFFERENT, AUSTIN. WE'VE
NOTED THAT THEY HAVE FLOCK
CAMERAS AND VERY DIFFERENT
SITUATION THAN WHAT WE HAVE. AND
THEIR LAWS ARE NOT WRITTEN LIKE
OURS. I SHOULD NOTE AND THIS IS
VERY IMPORTANT. THEIR GOVERNOR
IS GOVERNOR ABBOTT. THEIR
ATTORNEY GENERAL IS ATTORNEY
GENERAL PAXTON. VERY DIFFERENCE
FROM ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM
BROWN. IN THE ROLL OUT FOR THE
PROGRAM, IT SHOWS CLEARLY AN
INCIDENT WHERE SOMEONE PISTOL
WHIPPED, PISTOL WHIPPED SOMEBODY
AT 100 AND AURORA THEN HAD SHOTS
FIRED. FORTUNATELY A YEAR AGO
THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE GOTTEN
AWAY. THAT PERSON CASUALLY JUST
GOT ON A BIKE. PROBABLY NOT HIS
OWN. WENT SOUTH ON AURORA.
AGAIN, A YEAR AGO, THAT PERSON
WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY. BUT
INSTEAD, HE WAS NOTED TURNING
RIGHT, WEST ON TO 97th. THAT
INFORMATION ALLOWED THIS
INDIVIDUAL AFTER A SERIES OF
EVENTS TO BE ARRESTED.
ESSENTIALLY ON THE SPOT. AS IT
WORKED OUT. A LOT OF TIMES
PEOPLE THINK IF WE HAVE 100
INSTANCES OF CRIME WE HAVE 100
PEOPLE DOING IT. THAT'S NOT THE
CASE. THIS PERSON THAT PISTOL
WHIPPED SOMEBODY AND GOT ON A
BIKE. THAT PERSON HAS DONE IT
BEFORE AND WOULD BE DOING IT
AGAIN. BUT BECAUSE OF THE
REALTIME CRIME CENTER AND THAT
CCTV CAMERA, THAT PERSON WAS
ARRESTED. AND NEXT TIME, WE'VE
SEEN IT IN OUR COMMUNITY IN BELL
TOWN WHERE THIS IS SOMETHING
WHERE WE HAD, DEEP IMPACT WITH
THE CCTV CAMERAS AND SO, AND IN
JUST OVERNIGHT OR YET. YOU KNOW
IN THE CID, THE REALTIME CRIME
CENTER HAD A VIDEO OF AN ATTACK
OF AN INDIVIDUAL 44, INDIVIDUAL
WHO WAS STABBED BY A 44-YEAR-OLD
MAN. HERE'S SOMETHING
ADDITIONAL TO THIS. THIS IS JUST
FROM THE CID OVER THE LAST 24
HOURS. THIS INFORMATION IS GOING
TO ALLOW FOR A GREATER
PROSECUTION, BETTER PROSECUTION
OF THIS PERSON WHO HAD STABBED
THIS 44-YEAR-OLD MAN. PUBLIC
COMMENT HAS ALREADY ENDED. SO, I
JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT THERE'S
BEEN MANY POINTS MADE BY THE
COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE THAT. I
TRULY WELCOME THEM BECAUSE A LOT
OF THEM HAVE, THE NUMBER OF
TIMES THAT HAVE BEEN INTEGRATED
THROUGH THE LEGISLATION DIRECTLY
OR THROUGH AN AMENDMENT. THEY
ARE NOT HOWEVER UNIVERSAL IN
COMMUNITY. I HAVE A LETTER THAT
SAYS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE
OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST
EXPANSION. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
A DECADE AGO. A DECADE AGO.
>> PEOPLE ATTENDING THIS
MEETING, YOU ARE ENGAGING IN
DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR. WHICH IS
SLOWING DOWN AND IMPEDING OUR
ABILITY TO DO OUR JOBS. SO
PLEASE SILENCE IN THE CHAMBERS.
>> A DECADE AGO THE CITY COUNCIL
TRANSITIONED FROM BEING A
COUNCIL AT-LARGE TO OUR DISTRICT
COUNCIL. THE FIRST TERM OF THIS
WAS IN AFTER THE 2015 ELECTIONS
WHICH WAS REALLY A TRANSITION
PERIOD FROM THE AT-LARGE TO THE
DISTRICT MODEL. THEN THE SECOND
TERM WAS AFTER THE ELECTION
WHICH INCLUDED THE PANDEMIC. SO
IT DIDN'T REALLY GET OFF THE
GROUND AND DUE TO THE IMPACTS OF
THE PANDEMIC. THIS 23 ELECTION
AND THIS TERM OF THE COUNCIL IS
FULLY A DISTRICT COUNCIL FROM
CAMPAIGN THROUGHOUT ITS TERM.
AND THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE
THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES
MYSELF INCLUDED AND THE
COMMENTS. WE'RE IN DISTRICT
EVERY DAY. WE'RE INTERACTING
EVERY DAY WITH INDIVIDUALS AND
GROUPS REGARDING THIS ISSUE,
PLUS OTHERS. JUST LAST WEEK, I
WAS IN INNER BAY TALKING TO AN
INDIVIDUAL RELATED TO PROBLEMS
THAT THEY HAVE THERE. EVERY
SINGLE ONE OF THOSE 24 PEOPLE,
THOSE 2 DOZEN PEOPLE WERE BEING
HAPPY TO HAVE A CCTV PROGRAM IN
INNER BAY. SO THIS IDEA THAT
COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE
OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST
EXPANSION, IS FALSE. BECAUSE
EACH OF US ENGAGE AND EACH OF US
HAVE THESE AREAS WHERE THEY NEED
SUPPORT. THESE ARE SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY.
BOTTOM LINE HERE IS, BECAUSE I
HEAR THESE DIFFERENT THINGS
REGARDING THE COMMUNITY. BUT,
THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL IS IN
ESSENCE NOW THE SEATTLE
COMMUNITY CITY COUNCIL. BECAUSE
WE ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY IN OUR
DISTRICTS ON A DAILY, DAILY
BASIS. LASTLY, COUNCIL BILL
121052 AND I'LL ADD COUNCIL
121053 ARE NOT A PAIR STANDING
ALONE OR WITH JUST THE ALPR
LEGISLATION BUT AS PART OF OUR
INTEGRATED STRATEGIC PLAN AS WE
WORK TO CREATE A SAFE BASE IN
OUR CITY AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY
WITH CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING.
WE'VE DONE THIS, AND THIS CAME
UP IN COMMITTEE THIS MORNING. OF
ALL THE BILLS THAT WE'VE BEEN
DOING BUT THE THING IS, THESE
BILLS ARE DESIGNED TO COME
TOGETHER AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER
AND TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITIES.
SO THESE BILLS THAT WE SEE
TODAY, ARE PART OF THAT EFFORT.
THE TECHNOLOGY BILLS ARE PART OF
THAT EFFORT. AND SO COLLEAGUES,
I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE
THERE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO
ON TO THE AMENDMENTS. SEEING
NONE. LET'S SEE, IT'S BEEN
MOVED AND SECONDED. WELL, GO
AHEAD.
>> YES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVE
TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL 121052 AS
AMENDED IN AMENDMENT A.
>> IS THERE A SECOND.
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO AMEND THE BILL. COUNCIL
MEMBER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED IN
ORDER TO ADDRESS IT.
>> THIS AMENDMENT IS AN
AMENDMENT SPONSORED BY MYSELF
AND COSPONSORED BY MY COLLEAGUE
COUNCIL MEMBER RINK. AGAIN TO
THE POINT OF LISTENING TO PUBLIC
COMMENT, THE AMENDMENT IS TO
ADDRESS ANY FUTURE DESPITE OUR
EFFORTS, SEATTLE CCTV DATA IS
DEMANDED OR RELEASED TO I.C. E.
IN THAT ESSENCE, THE CITY OF
SEATTLE WOULD PAUSE. THIS
AMENDMENT WOULD AUTHORIZE A 60
DAY PAUSE IN THE SYSTEMS FOR THE
FOLLOWING CIRCUMSTANCES. ONE THE
CITY OF ITS VENDOR RECEIVE A
WARRANT, SUBPOENA OR COURT ORDER
FOR SEATTLE CCTV DATA IN AN
IMMIGRATION MATTER. OR THE CITY
RELEASES DATA FOR IMMIGRATION
ENFORCEMENT MATTER. COLLEAGUES
AGAIN THIS RELATES TO COMMENTS
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND THINKS
THAT WE KNOW FROM OUR EXPERIENCE
AND THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN
SPEAKING AT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE TERMS OF
FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
NATIONAL GUARD. SO I ASK FOR
YOUR SPORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WOULD COUNCIL
MEMBER RINCK AS COSPONSOR WOULD
YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS AS
WELL.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
AND COLLEAGUES THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT AMENDMENT AND THANKFUL
FOR THE PARTNERSHIP FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER KETTLE ON IT. AS STATED,
IF DATA IS RELEASED PERTAINING
TO A SUBPOENA OR WARRANT FOR A
SPECIFICALLY A CIVIL FEDERAL
IMMIGRATION MATTER. WE WILL BE
ABLE TO HAVE AN OFF RAMP TO TRY
TO PROTECT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND
COMMUNITY. THE PAUSE OF CCTV
CAMERA SYSTEMS FOR 60 DAYS WILL
ALLOW US TO DELIBERATE AND
RESOLVE THIS ISSUE WHICH MAY
INCLUDE THE ENDING OF THE CCTV
PROGRAM. WE CAN'T HAVE PUBLIC
SAFETY WITHOUT PUBLIC TRUST AND
OVERSIGHT OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES
AND WE NEED THE ABILITY TO LEAVE
THE PROGRAM IF IT IS NOT IN --
IF IT IS NOT SERVING ITS
INTENDED PURPOSE OR IN THIS CASE
BEING UTILIZED AND WEAPONIZED
AGAINST US. IT IS ENCOURAGE YOUR
SUPPORT ON THIS. IT'S IMPORTANT
TO HAVE AN OFF RAMP OF THIS.
THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
KETTLE AND COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK
FOR BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT
FORWARD. AS COUNCIL MEMBER
KETTLE SAID IN HIS OPENING
REMARKS, WE HAVE NOT PASSED ANY
OF THESE LEGISLATION WITHOUT
PUTTING GUARDRAILS IN PLACE. IN
FACT, WHEN WE STARTED EXCUSE ME
ALPR I MYSELF PROFFERED AN
AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT
GUARDRAILS AROUND THAT INCLUDING
LIMITING ACCESS TO ONE PERMANENT
INDIVIDUAL IN THE REALTIME CRIME
CENTER WHO COULD BE AUTHORIZED
TO READ THE LRAPLR AND ALSO,
MAKING SURE THAT ANY REQUEST TO
SEARCH AND I'M READING FROM THE
ACTUAL AMENDMENT HISTORICAL
READS BY ANY OFFICER, MUST BE
ACCOMPANIED BY A WRITTEN REQUEST
IDENTIFYING THE REQUESTER. THE
REASON FOR THE SEARCH INCLUDING
THE REASONABLE SUSPICION OR
PROBABLE CAUSE AND THE
ASSOCIATED CASE NUMBER AND
SUBMITTED TO AN AUTHORIZED
INDIVIDUAL TO PERFORM THE
SEARCH. AND WE DID THIS TO PUT
GUARDRAILS IN PLACE BECAUSE
THESE ARE TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAVE
UNINTENDED OR COULD HAVE AN
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND I
WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEONE
FROM A DIFFERENT STATE WHO WOULD
CROSS TO SEATTLE TO GET SERVICES
INCLUDING REPRODUCTIVE SERVICES
AND GENDER AFFIRMING CARE TO BE
SUBJECTED TO SOME KIND OF, YOU
KNOW, ASK FROM A DIFFERENT STATE
FOR INFORMATION AND WE DID NOT
WANT TO, WE WANT TO PROTECT
INDIVIDUALS WHO COME HERE TO GET
CARE. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE
IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE
SHARING THIS TYPE OF
INFORMATION. SIMILARLY, THIS
AMENDMENT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
KETTLE IS PROFFERING IS PUTTING
VERY IMPORTANT GUARDRAILS
BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING
AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND BECAUSE
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THIS
BEING USED AGAINST OUR RESIDENTS
HERE IN SEATTLE. OUR IMMIGRANT
RESIDENTS ARE LGBTQ, AND TRANS
RESIDENTS AND OUR VULNERABLE
RESIDENTS. I DON'T SIT ON THE
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. SO THIS
IS MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE
ON THIS BUT I AM VERY GRATEFUL
THAT THIS AMENDMENT HAS COME
FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO PUT
GUARDRAILS AROUND THESE TOOLS
THAT WE ARE USING THAT ARE
HELPING WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
EFFORTS IN COMBINATION AND THAT
ALSO, YOU KNOW WE'RE TAKING
THESE THINGS SERIOUSLY. WE'RE
TAKING THE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY
AND WE'RE MAKING SURE TO PUT
GUARDRAILS AROUND THESE THINGS.
AND MAKING SURE THAT IF THERE IS
A REACH OUT FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO
PUT A STOP TO THE PROGRAM AND
THEN REASSESS WHAT WE NEED TO DO
NEXT. SO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I SEE,
COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. DO YOU
HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. GO
AHEAD.
>> I WANTED TO OFFER AN
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION FOR THE
LISTENING PUBLIC TODAY. THIS
AMENDMENT MARKS AN IMPORTANT
APPROVAL TO THE PROGRAM FOR AT
LEAST 60 DAYS BUT IT IS ONLY
SPECIFIC IF THERE'S A SUBPOENA
OR WARRANT FOR A CIVIL
IMMIGRATION MATTER. I JUST WANT
TO CLARIFY THAT FOR FOLKS WHO
ARE LISTENING TODAY. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THAT. I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER.
>> MEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> AMENDMENT A PASSES WOULD YOU
PLEASE CONTINUE TO, THE
FOLLOWING AMENDMENT. I BELIEVE
THAT IS, COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> I MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL
121052 AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT
B.
>> SECOND.
>> THE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED.
SO PLEASE GO AHEAD AND DESCRIBE
IT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
THIS AMENDMENT BE REQUIRES THAT
THE CCTV SYSTEM PILOT EVALUATION
MUST DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S
AN ASSOCIATION WITH A REDUCTION
TO CRIME. THIS AMENDMENT WAS
DRAFTED FROM THE OFFICE OF THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL AND THE
RESEARCHERS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
PENNSYLVANIA. IF THE PILOT
EVALUATION DOES NOT DETERMINE IN
ASSOCIATION, THEN THE EXECUTIVE
WILL NEED TO CONSIDER IN
COMPLIANCE WITH THE SIR. IN
COMMITTEE WE HAD SEEN A VERSION
OF THIS REQUIRING INSTEAD RATHER
THAN AN ASSOCIATION ACAUSAL. IN
OUR WORK HAVE BOTH ACCEPTED THIS
AMENDMENT AS PART OF THEIR
MONITORING AND EVALUATION
PROCESS. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD
INCLUDES FIVE BROAD LAYERS OF
VALUATION. ANY ASSOCIATION
BETWEEN THESE PILOTS AND A
REDUCTION IN CRIME. IN ORDER TO
MAINTAIN ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE
PUBLIC WHO ARE FUNDING THESE
PILOTS AND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT
WILL RECEIVE THE NEGATIVE
IMPACTS OF OVER SURVEILLANCE.
I'M ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR
AN EVALUATION THAT ANSWERS THIS
SIMPLE QUESTION. DID THIS PILOT
PROGRAM ACCOMPLISH ITS GOALS IN
REDUCING CRIME. THE EVIDENCE IS
EVALUATION. I ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT ON THIS AMENDMENT THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK
FOR HER AMENDMENT. THIS IS
SIMILAR TO THE AMENDMENT THAT WE
HAD IN COMMITTEE THAT FAILED
THERE. I RECOGNIZE TOO THAT THE,
THE CONSULTATION WITH THE OIG
AND UPENN AS PART OF THE
EVALUATION OF THE PROGRAM, AND
ESSENTIALLY THE OVERLAP THAT WAS
ALREADY THERE WITH THE UPENN
PROGRAM AND WHAT IS INCLUDED
INTO THIS AMENDMENT. THE
CHALLENGE AS WE HAD IN COMMITTEE
TODAY IS THAT, THE LANGUAGE IS
ALREADY SAYING SPD WILL EVALUATE
THE EFFICACY THROUGH STANDARD
MEASURES. PRIORITY RESPONSE,
PATROL COVERAGE WHEN NOT
RESPONDING TO CALLS. EQUITY,
PERCEPTIONS OF TRUST,
PERCEPTIONS OF SAFETY. THE CCTV,
RTC AND ENHANCED ALPR. NO
INCREASE OR DECLINE IN MEASURES
OF POLICE OVERPRESENCE. MEASURE
OF IMPACT AND AN INCREASE OF
PERCEPTION OF TRUST AND SAFETY.
THAT IS WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. IT
IS BROADER AND SO, AGAIN I
RECOGNIZE AND I APPRECIATE THE
AMENDMENT BUT I THINK IT'S,
BETTER TO HAVE THIS BROADER CAST
IN TERMS OF THE EVALUATION THAT
WE HAVE FOR THIS, FOR THIS BILL.
SO, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO VOTE
NO AND I SHALL BE VOTING NO,
THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT SEEING NONE.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE ADOPTION.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES. YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON.
>> NO.
>> THREE IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION FAILS AND
AMENDMENT B IS NOT ADOPTED. GO
AHEAD.
>> PRESIDENT.
>> WELCOME TO CONTINUE WITH
AMENDMENT C.
>> THANK YOU. I MOVE TO AMEND
COUNCIL BILL 121052 AS PRESENTED
ON AMENDMENT C.
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO AMEND THE BILL AS PRESENTED
ON AMEND C. COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK
AS SPONSOR YOUR RECOGNIZED IN
ORDER TO ADDRESS IT.
>> THANK YOU, UNLESS SPD SUBMITS
TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL
PASSES AN ORDNANCE THAT INCLUDES
AN SIR AND EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW
THAT REFLECT THE APPROVAL OF A
NEW ACQUISITION PURSUANT TO
SURVEILLANCE ORDNANCES.
COLLEAGUES IN THE MIDST OF OUR
BUDGET SHORTFALL AND
UNDERSTANDING THE INHERENT RISK
OF INCREASING SURVEILLANCE IN
OUR CITY WE NEED TO REMEMBER
THIS IS A PILOT AND NOT A FULLY
OPERATIONAL PROGRAM. THE PROOF
OF CONCEPT IS STILL YET TO BE
SEEN AND IN THE SPIRIT OF
ENSURING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN
GOOD PROCESS I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE, AND HOPE YOU AGREE THAT WE
SHOULD SEE A NEW ORDNANCE, SIR
AND EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW IF THIS
PILOT IS CHOSEN TO BE EXTENDED.
WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKING
SHORTCUTS AND JUMPING FROM
PILOTS TO FULL PROGRAMS WITHOUT
GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO
ENSURE THE COMMUNITY VOICES ARE
HEARD. AND FOR THESE REASONS I
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS? OKAY SEEING NONE.
COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. SORRY.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
AGAIN, I THANK COUNCIL MEMBER
RINCK. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO
BE DOING THIS REVIEW. AS JUST
NOTED IN THE PAST AMENDMENT.
DISCUSSION, RELATED TO THE OIG
AND UPENN. AND AGAIN, THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY
COVERED IN THE BILL. AND SO
HERE'S THE CHALLENGE AS NOTED
YOU KNOW WITH HAVING A BEYOND
JULY 1, 2028. WE NEED TO ENSURE
THAT THIS IS AS WE GO THROUGH
THIS PROCESS. BECAUSE AS WE KNOW
FROM SITTING ON THIS, TIME LINES
AND SCHEDULES ARE NOT WHAT WE
THINK THEY ARE. WE KNOW THIS
FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO
RIGHT NOW WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN. DIFFERENT PIECES. SO
THERE'S ALREADY IN PLACE A
REVIEW AND HOW TO DO THIS THE
TRANSITION FROM PILOT TO REGULAR
IF SUCCESSFUL. HAVING THE DATE
AS STATED, WOULD BE PROBLEM AND
CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE
WOULD NOT HAVE COVERAGE DESPITE
THE FACT THAT IT MAY BE SHOWN TO
BE BENEFICIAL ACROSS THE BOARD
AS MADE IT NOTED IN THE PREVIOUS
AMENDMENT DISCUSSION. SO, AGAIN
I APPRECIATE THE PIECE. I THINK
IT'S ALREADY COVERED. MY
RECOMMENDATION IS TO VOTE NO.
THANK YOU.
>> ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. OKAY.
NOT SEEING ANY. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
AMENDMENT C.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> NO.
>> FOUR IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION FAILS AND
AMENDMENT C IS NOT ADOPTED.
MOVING ON TO AMENDMENT D.
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I MOVE AMENDMENT D TO COUNCIL
BILL 121052.
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
TO AMEND THE BILL AS PRESENTED
ON AMEND D. COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED AS
SPONSOR TO ADDRESS IT.
>> THANK YOU, I WANT TO THANK
EVERYBODY FOR HAVING THIS
THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION TODAY.
BRINGING FORWARD THESE
AMENDMENTS AND THE PUBLIC
COMMENT WE RECEIVED. I WILL
PROVIDE COMMENTS NOW REGARDING
MY AMENDMENT DURING THE
AMENDMENT PROCESS. MY COMMENTS
WILL BE ON THIS AMENDMENT, THE
UNDERLYING BILL AND THE
FOLLOWING BILL. I'M PUTTING
FORWARD THIS AMENDMENT TODAY TO
REDUCE THE EXPANSION OF CCTV TO
ONLY THE STADIUM DISTRICT. THERE
ARE GOOD REASONS FOR THE LIMITED
SURVEILLANCE PILOT IN AREAS LIKE
THE STADIUM DISTRICT WHICH COULD
BECOME TARGETS DURING THE WORLD
CUP. AND, WE NEED TO TAKE MORE
TIME TO PLAN AND REVIEW FURTHER
EXPANSION OF USING THIS
TECHNOLOGY. I'M NOT AGAINST
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AS IT
HAS ITS ROLE. OUR CENTRAL
DISTRICT PRESIDENT THAT I'M NOT
SEEING ANYMORE WHO WORKED FOR
BOTH PARTIES SAID IT BETTER THAN
ME. I'M NOT A NO TO EXPANSION
BUT I AM WE NEED MORE TIME ON
THE UNDERLYING BILL IF WE EXPAND
BEYOND JUST THE STADIUM
DISTRICT. WHAT GIVES ME PAUSE
ARE THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE LAST
FEW MONTHS AND WEEKS. WHILE WE
WAIT TO RECEIVE THE LEGAL
DETERMINATION FROM THE COURTS
REGARDING FEDERAL ACTIONS I KNOW
IN MY HEART THAT THEIR ACTIONS
ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THE NORTH
STAR OF OUR DEMOCRACY'S
FOUNDERS. COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE
HAS MADE IMPORTANT CHANGES TO
THIS BILL AS HAS COUNCIL MEMBER
RINCK. WE ARE NOT IN FILL IN THE
BLANK CITY OR STATE THAT WILL
WILLINGFULLY TARGET AMERICANS.
WE ARE IN SEATTLE. I DO TRUST
CHIEF SEAN MARTINS. I TRUST HIM
TO PROTECT SEATTLEITIS FROM ALL
THREATS. I TRUST HIS USE OF THE
REALTIME TO DECREASE CRIMINAL
ACTIVITYLESS. -- ACTIVITIES. I
BELIEVE EXPANSION TO THE
SPORTING DISTRICT IS PRUDENT. I
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO MY
AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS
FOR BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT. I
WAS, I LEARNED ABOUT THIS
AMENDMENT TODAY. READING IT.
WOULD LOVE TO ENGAGE IN A
CONVERSATION REGARDING THE TWO
AREAS MY DISTRICT. HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH
PEOPLE ON CAPITOL HILL. AND OUR
CENTRAL DISTRICT AS WELL. I KNOW
WE HAD PEOPLE COME IN FROM A
COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS FROM
CENTRAL DISTRICT AND
PREDOMINANTLY CAPITOL HILL. IN
COMMITTEE I VOTED YES ON THIS
AND BROUGHT SOME OF THE
AMENDMENTS WHICH I HEARD FROM
CONCERNS REGARDING ARTERIALS
ALSO SOME CLINICS, THAT WERE
CONCERNED ABOUT SOME EXTRA
OVERSIGHT OF SECURITY FOR THEIR
CLIENTS. THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT
TO GET A DELICATE BALANCE. I
WON'T BE SUPPORTING THESE TODAY
GIVEN THE REASON WHY IF WE'RE
NOT SUPPORTING ANY TYPE OF NEW
CCTV CAMERAS, FOR THIS
LEGISLATION THEN WE SHOULD
SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERING ANY OF
THEM. WE SHOULDN'T TAKE OUT ONE
NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE OTHER IN
MY OPINION. THAT'S VERY
DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS. SO I
WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> ARE THERE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS? OKAY WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
AMENDMENT D.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> NO.
>> TWO IN FAVOR, 7 OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION FAILS AND
AMENDMENT D IS NOT ADOPTED.
MOVING ON. WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN
AMENDMENT D.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I MOVE TO PASS AS PRESENTED ON
AMENDMENT E.
>> SECOND.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED
AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT E.
COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK AS
PRESIDENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> PRESENTED IN THE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE, OUR OFFICE
WANTED TO INTRODUCE A
PROHIBITION OF CCTV CAMERAS ON
NONARTERIAL STREETS. WE
UNDERSTAND DEEPLY APPRECIATE HIM
PUTTING IT FORWARD. WE WANT TO
LIMIT THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF
SURVEILLANCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
WHICH INCLUDES REMOVING THESE
FROM NONARTERIAL STREETS AS
THERE'S AN EXPECTATION OF
PRIVACY AND IN AND AROUND PARKS
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE SEATTLE REMAINS A SAFE
PLACE FOR COMMUNITY. ESPECIALLY
THOSE WHO COME FROM UNDER SERVED
COMMUNITIES SUCH AS THROUGHOUT
CAPITOL HILL, OUR BELOVED
GAYBORHOOD. THANK YOU AND I URGE
YOUR SUPPORT.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> FULLY SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT
FOR ARTERIALS AS SPD HAS
IDENTIFIED WHERE THEY FEEL THE
CAMERAS WOULD BE BEST SITUATED
AND I FULLY SUPPORT THIS. SO
THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS?
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF
AMENDMENT E.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> NO.
>> FOUR IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION FAILS AND
AMENDMENT E IS NOT ADOPTED. ARE
THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS ON THE
BILL AS AMENDED? COUNCIL MEMBER,
I DON'T KNOW WHO HAD THE HAND
UP FIRST BUT I WILL CALL ON
COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL
PRESIDENT. I DO WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE PUBLIC
COMMENTARY WE RECEIVED TODAY. I
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE E-MAILS
THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ON THIS
MATTER AND I UNDERSTAND THE
CONCERNS AND THE FEAR. IT'S
REAL. ESPECIALLY GIVEN WHAT OUR
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING,
IT'S REAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THAT BEING SAID, I'M PROBABLY
ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE ON THIS,
I'M ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT
UNDERSTANDS THE TECHNOLOGY, IN
AS AN INDICATION SPECIALIST.
LOOKING AT REALTIME EVENTS AND
RESPONDING IN REALTIME. TO
DIRECT RESOURCES TO WHAT WAS
HAPPENING IN REALTIME. THOSE
WERE ALL WHERE I LIVED. YOU
DON'T HAVE JUST TWO INTEL GUYS
UP THERE YOU HAVE THREE. SO
AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE
TECHNOLOGY. AND I ALSO
UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW THE
SENTIMENT THAT THIS IS NOT GOING
TO PREVENT CRIME. YOU'RE RIGHT.
CAMERAS ARE NOT A CRIME
PREVENTION TOOL. THEY'RE AN
INVESTIGATIVE TOOL. EXCUSE ME.
WHEN AN OFFICER, A POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT WHAT
CASES TO INVESTIGATE. WHAT CASES
TO ASSIGN TO AN INVESTIGATOR.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS IT
SOLVABLE. HOW DO YOU GET
SOMETHING THAT IS SOLVABLE? YOU
NEED EVIDENCE. YOU NEED A
CREDIBLE WITNESS. YOU NEED
FINGERPRINTS. OR YOU NEED VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE. IF IT'S NOT
SOLVABLE IT DOESN'T GET
ASSIGNED. WHEN I HEAR FOLKS,
THIS ISN'T GOING TO DO
ANYTHING. TELL THAT TO THE
FAMILY WHO'S HOUSE HAS GOTTEN
BROKEN INTO. BECAUSE THE STATS
ARE SAYING THINGS ARE GETTING
BETTER. THINGS ARE NOT SAYING
ANYTHING WHEN IT'S YOUR HOUSE
THAT GOT BROKEN INTO OR YOUR
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GOT SHOT AT. I
HEAR THAT FROM THE PEOPLE IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD. I HEAR THAT FROM
MY COMMUNITY WHO ARE THE ONES
SAYING, YEAH IF WE HAD CAMERAS.
THAT COULD HELP. UNDERSTAND THE
MEASURES THAT THERE ARE THE
PREVENTABLE MEASURES. I AGREE.
WE ALSO AGREE THAT WE NEED
INVESTIGATIVE TOOLS SO THAT WE
CAN HOLD FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE FOR
THEIR BEHAVIOR. RIGHT. THERE'S
A LOT MORE I CAN SAY GIVEN THE
BACKGROUND THAT I'M COMING
FROM. BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT
WITH THE SAFEGUARDS THAT HAVE
BEEN PUT IN PLACE, THIS COULD BE
AN EFFECTIVE TOOL TO HELP US
ADDRESS SOME OF THE VIOLENT
CRIME OR PROPERTY CRIME THAT WE
DO HAVE IN THE CITY AND HOLD
FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE. FOR THE
CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
RINCK.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I WANT TO FIRST THANK THE 105
PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. I THINK
THAT WAS MY TALLY. I MIGHT BE
WRONG. SO DON'T QUOTE ME. BUT
IT WAS DEFINITELY MORE THAN 100
FOLK WHO IS CAME OUT TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON. SO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT IN
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WHEN THIS
PILOT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED
LAST YEAR IT'S FAIR TO SAY WE
WERE IN A DIFFERENT MOMENT. THIS
WAS SOLD TO COMMUNITY AS A PILOT
PROGRAM BUT HERE WE ARE JUST
MONTHS AFTER THAT SO CALLED
PILOT PROGRAM STARTED, AND THE
MAYOR IS ASKING FOR AROUND 400
MORE CAMERAS AROUND OUR CITY TO
BE USED FOR 24/7 POLICE
SURVEILLANCE. REQUEST ANYONE ON
THIS DIUS TELL ME IF THE
ORIGINAL CAMERAS THAT COUNCIL
APPROVED ARE WORKING? BECAUSE
THE ANSWER IS NO WE HAVE NO
DATA. AN ANICDOTE MAYBE. THEY'VE
ONLY BEEN UP FOR A COUPLE OF
MONTHS. WE PARTNERED WITH THE
UNIVERSITY FOR A STUDY BUT THEY
HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO DO THAT
WORK. THIS WOULD EBG -- EXPAND
THE PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WHY ARE WE RUSHING TO DO THIS
WHEN THE DATA WE REQUESTED HAS
NOT BEEN COLLECTED. AND WHY ARE
WE DOING THIS WHEN THE PRESIDENT
IS USING THIS DATA TO TARGET OUR
-- SO LAST NIGHT MY COLLEAGUE ON
THE SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS ALERTED ME TO
BREAKING NEWS THAT SAN FRANCISCO
POLICE LET OUT OF STATE COPS RUN
1.6 MILLION SEARCHES. 1.6
SEARCHES ON THEIR SURVEILLANCE
DATA. IN CONTRADICTION OF ALL OF
THEIR STATE LAWS. THOSE
SNATCHING UP DATA INCLUDED THE
STATE OF TEXAS. THE U.S.
IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS
ENFORCEMENTS WHO HAS USED THIS
KIND OF DATA TO TRACK
NONCRIMINAL IMMIGRANTS FOR
KIDNAPPING AND DISAPPEARING
PEOPLE TO FOREIGN PRISON CAMPS.
JUST LAST MONTH IN WARDS,
COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE DID NOT
IMAGINE THAT THE CONTRACT IS
THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
WOULD USE THAT DATA TO WAGE WAR
ON IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. JUST
YESTERDAY, BOTH CNN AND THE NEW
YORK TIMES HAVE REPORTED
DELIVERY DRIVERS ARE IN HIDING
BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN FOLLOWING
UBER DRIVERS THROUGH
SURVEILLANCE. IN DENVER, DATA
COLLECTED WAS ACCESSED IN AN
IMMIGRATION RELATED SEARCHES
OVER 1,400 TIMES. WE SAW AN A
LRP ACCESS TO ILLINOIS LICENSE
PLATE CAMERA DATA. DESPITE BEING
IN A STATE THAT HAS THE TRUST
ACT WHICH IS THEIR VERSION OF
KEEP WASHINGTON WORKING.
JURISDICTIONS LIKE IN RIVER SIDE
COUNTY, L.A. COUNTY, ORANGE
COUNTY, SAN DIEGO COUNTY, ALL
HAVE THEIR OWN VERSIONS OF KEEP
WASHINGTON WORKING. AND THEIR
DATA WAS STILL SHARED WITH
I.C.E. AND CBP. I CAN CONTINUE
TO TALK ABOUT PROVIDENCE, RED
LANDS IN CALIFORNIA, TOLEDO OHIO
AND NASHVILLE TENNESSEE. SURE NO
CITY HAS DONE IT EXACTLY THE WAY
THAT WE HAVE. WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR
PROVIDERS AND DIFFERENT
COMPANIES. AND WE ALL HAVE
DIFFERENT SAFETY PROTOCOLS. BUT
THIS IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE
BOARD. DO WE KNOW WITH 100%
CERTAINTY WHAT HAPPENED IN EACH
OF THESE CASES THAT CAUSED THEIR
SYSTEMS TO FAIL. WHY DO WE THINK
WE'RE SO SPECIAL. SO ACROSS ALL
ACROSS THE U.S. AND OTHER
LIBERAL AND BLUE CITIES WHERE
COMMUNITIES LIVE HOPING THEIR
GOVERNMENT WILL SERVE AND
PROTECT THEM, WE'VE SEEN THESE
DATA BREACHES AND WEAPONNIZATION
OF DATA CARRY OUT
CRIMINALIZATION REGIME. AND NOW
THE TRUMP REGIME IS THREATENING
TO SEND TROOPS INTO BLUE CITIES.
I'M SURE AS WE SPEAK. OPERATION
MID-WAY BLITZ IN CHICAGO,
INTENTIONALLY BLAMING THEIR
CITIES SANCTUARY LAWS AND STATE
SANCTUARY LAWS JUST LIKE THE
ONES WE HAVE HERE IN WASHINGTON
AND SEATTLE. THIS IS JUST
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FEDERAL
OVERREACH THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN,
THAT WE'VE SEEN IN L.A. AND DC.
SO, THESE TOOLS CCTV, RTCC THESE
ARE THE TOOLS THAT THE TRUMP
REGIME NEEDS TO ENACT THEIR
CRUEL AGENDA. WE'VE SEEN THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN ACCESS
CITY SURVEILLANCE DATA WITH OR
WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION AND IT
CAN DO SO WITH OURS. I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT A HYPOTHETICAL
SCENARIO BECAUSE AMENDMENT D DID
NOT GO PASSED. MEANING IF THIS
GOES THROUGH AND THIS EXPANSION
GOES THROUGH THERE WOULD BE
CAMERAS ON CAL ANDERSON. CAL
ANDERSON IS A SITE FOR A NUMBER
OF PROTESTS AND DEMONSTRATIONS
WHERE PEOPLE GO TO EXPRESS,
EXERCISE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT
RIGHTS. WE SAW THIS THIS YEAR
WITH THE NO KINGS MARCH. A
SUBSEQUENT MARCH ON CAPITOL HILL
LIKE WITH THIS YEAR'S MAY DAY
PROTEST AND RALLY AND PARADE.
UNDER THIS BILL, AND THIS
EXPANSION AT ANY POINT, THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN SUBPOENA
THIS DATA. EVEN IF THERE'S
INFORMATION ON THE CAMERAS THAT
ARE ONLY KEPT FOR FIVE DAYS THEY
CAN STILL SUBPOENA WITHIN THOSE
FIVE DAYS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING
THAT IS CAUGHT IN THOSE CAMERAS,
IT WOULD BE BOUNCED FOR A 30 DAY
HOLD. THAT WE KNOW THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WATCHES
DEMONSTRATIONS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. THEY ARE WATCHING. AND
SO, IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
SUBPOENAS OUR DATA, WE MUST TURN
IT OVER. AND WHILE WE AS A CITY
MAY NOT HAVE FACIAL RECOGNITION
ON OUR CAMERAS WHEN DID THAT
VIDEO FOOTAGE GOES TO THEM THEY
CAN GO FACIAL RECOGNITION ON
THAT DATA. AND THAT THERE IN
LIES THE ISSUE. BUT I BRING THIS
UP BECAUSE THEY CAN CHARGE
PEOPLE WITH FEDERAL CRIMES AND
THEY DID SO JUST IN SPOKANE
RECENTLY. THEY CHARGED NINE
SPOKANE PROTESTERS. THEY WERE
NOT CHARGED BY CITY POLICE, THEY
WERE CHARGED BY FEDERAL OFFICERS
FOR CONSPIRACY TO IMPEDE
OFFICERS. THESE WERE FOLKS WHO
WERE JUST PROTESTING AGAINST
I.C. E. SO I BRING THESE
EXAMPLES UP TO COLOR WHAT THIS
COULD MEAN. AND THERE'S A BROAD
COALITION OF ORGANIZATIONS
TRUSTED INSTITUTIONS AND
LEGISLATORS WHO SEE THIS TOO AND
HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THIS.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY
POLICE AND COMMISSION AND I WANT
TO HIGHLIGHT A QUOTE FROM THEIR
LETTER, EXPLAINING LACKS DATA
ESTABLISHING THE EFFICACY THAT
WE'VE HEARD HERE TODAY AND WHEN
DOING SO EXPOSES THE SEATTLE
COMMUNITY TO FEDERAL OVERREACH
AND FURTHER MISUSE OF PRIVAT
INFORMS WILL FURTHER MIS
MISTRUST. THE CITY HAS JUST
EMERGED FROM FEDERAL OVERSIGHT
OF MPD. THIS IS THE TIME TO
LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY VOICE.
YESTERDAY WE RECEIVED A LETTER
FROM 18 COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
ONE AMERICA, CHURCH COUNCIL OF
GREATER SEATTLE. SEATTLE
INDIVISIBLE, FRIENDS OF LITTLE
SAIGON. NORTHWEST IMMIGRANT
RIGHTS, UCC, LATINO COMMUNITY
FUND OF WASHINGTON STATE. LOVE
AND JUSTICE COMMUNITY OF THE
CONGREGATION OF THE CHURCH OF
JESUS CHRIST. PEOPLE POWER
WASHINGTON. AND AT THE START OF
THIS MEETING WE RECEIVED A
LETTER FROM 17 STATE LEGISLATORS
INCLUDING THE LEADERSHIP OF THE
HOUSE MEMBERS OF COLOR CAUCUS
AND TO QUOTE THIS LETTER, QUOTE,
INCREASING THE SURVEILLANCE OF
WASHINGTONIASN WHEN WE ARE
DEALING OF PRIVATE BREACHES MUST
NOT BE DONE IN HASTE AS
LEGISLATORS WE STAND IN SUPPORT
OF THE KEEP WASHINGTON WORKING
ACT AND WITH ALL WASHINGTON.
PASSED IN 2019 AND RESTRICTS
STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENTS
FROM COOPERATING WITH FEDERAL
STATE ENFORCEMENT INCLUDING
PROHIBITING THEM FROM ASKING
ABOUT IMMIGRATION STATUS,
SHARING PERSONAL INFORMATION OR
DETAINING INDIVIDUALS FOR CIVIL
-- COULD UNDER MINE THE
LEGISLATIVE INTENT OF THIS
POLICY TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY
AND CIVIL RIGHTS OF ALL
WASHINGTON RESIDENTS. TO FOSTER
TRUST WITH OUR IMMIGRANT REFUGEE
COMMUNITIES AND TO KEEP
COMMUNITIES SAFER BY PREVENTING
LOCAL RESOURCES FROM BEING USED
IN FEDERAL IMMIGRATION
DEPORTATIONS. THIS TECHNOLOGY
AND TECHNOLOGY SIMILAR TO IT HAS
RECENTLY BEEN IN THE NEWS FOR
ITS FAILURE TO MEANINGFULLY AND
CONSISTENTLY BE SECURED LEADING
TO DATA BREACHES THAT COULD
RESULT IN SENSITIVE DATA BEING
SHARED WITH I.C.E. AND PUTTING
COMMUNITIES AT RISK. WITH THE
LESSONS LEARNED WITH THE RECENT
FAILURES AT OUR OWN LEVEL OF
GOVERNMENT TO SECURE SIMILARLY
SENSITIVE INFORMATION. IT IS OUR
ASK THAT YOU PAUSE THESE BILLS
UNTIL BOTH PUBLIC AND LEGAL
CONFIDENCE IN THEIR USE IS
ESTABLISHED. WE SIMPLY CANNOT
RISK THE FURTHER VICTIMIZATION
OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT SHOWS
LIMITED REGARD FOR
CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS END
QUOTE. THAT IS FROM 17 OF OUR
STATE LEGISLATORS.
>> PLEASE.
>> TAKING A PAUSE. CONTINUE OUR
OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE COME
HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THESE
BILLS. TO QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM
OUR POLICY BRIEFING MEMO THAT
HAS BEEN SHARED WITH ALL OF US.
NOT ONLY DOES THE MONITORING OF
SOME PEOPLE AND NOT OTHERS
VIOLATE EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER
THE 14th AMENDMENT OR THE FIRST
ARTICLE 1 SECTION 7 OF THE
WASHINGTON CONSTITUTION WE ARE
CONTINUING TO DISPROPORTIONALLY
HARM COMMUNITIES OVER
REPRESENTED IN OUR CRIMINAL
LEGAL SYSTEM. THESE CAMERAS ZONE
THAT THEY MUST POLICE SAFELY.
THAT GOVERNMENT HAS THEIR BACK,
IT TELLS THEM THAT WE ARE
WATCHING THEM. AND THAT THESE
ARE ALREADY MARGINALIZED QUEER
COMMUNITY, AND IMMIGRANTS THAT
ALREADY LIVE ON THE EDGE. WE ALL
JUST WITNESSED PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'VE GOTTEN OVER A THOUSAND
E-MAILS THIS WEEK. THE COMMUNITY
WE ALL SERVE SEEMS UNEQUIVOCALLY
OPPOSED. I DO NOT LOOK FORWARD
TO THE DAY WHERE WE HAVE TO SIT
BACK ON THIS DIUS AND DEAL WITH
THE AFTERMATH OF OUR DATA BEING
HANDED OVER TO OTHER ACTORS. I
DO NOT WANT TO BE SITTING HERE
IN THE FUTURE TELLING PEOPLE,
I'M SORRY WE PUT YOUR COMMUNITY
IN DANGER. WHEN WE COULD HAVE
STOPPED IT TODAY. IT IS A MATTER
OF WHEN NOT IF THE INFORMATION
WILL BE HANDED TO THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. I URGE YOU TO THINK
OF YOUR NEIGHBOR, THINK OF YOUR
COMMUNITY AND TO THINK IF YOU
YOURSELF WOULD LIKE TO LIVE WITH
A CAMERA INFRINGING ON YOUR
CIVIL LIBTIES. FOR THESE REASONS
AND TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF
SEATTLE I WILL BE VOTING NO ON
THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL.
ORDER IN THE HOUSE. THIS IS
DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR. I'M JUST
TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS
MEETING. COUNCIL MEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT
NELSON. THANK YOU FOR THAT
COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. I DON'T
WANT TO JUST JUMP INTO MY
COMMENTS WITHOUT RECOGNIZING
THOSE POWERFUL WORDS AND WHAT
YOU SAID. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCIL
MEMBER KETTLE. I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT ON
THIS. EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES WE
DON'T AGREE, WE CAN AGREE TO
DISAGREE. BUT, I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT ON
THIS. IN TRYING TO LISTEN TO
FOLKS AS WELL. I KNOW THAT WE
ARE IN CHALLENGING TIMES. IN OUR
CITY. AND FOR ME, WHEN I THINK
ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S NOT
AN OR, IT'S AN AND. I'VE HAD
THE HONOR AND OPPORTUNITY BUT
ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY TO
ANSWER TO PEOPLE, YOU ALL EVERY
SINGLE DAY. FROM E-MAILS,
COMMENTS, PHONE CALLS, IN
PERSON. I HAVE TO RESPOND TO
PEOPLE ON THESE ISSUES FROM OUR
COMMUNITY. AND TALK TO PEOPLE
EVERY DAY. I'VE ALSO HAD THE
INTIMATE CONNECTION AND CLOSE TO
PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED
BY VIOLENCE AND CRIME IN OUR
CITY. FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST
LOVED ONES, PEOPLE WINDOWS THAT
HAVE BEEN BLOWN UP. CHILD CARES,
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT EVERY
DAY. I'VE HAD TO LISTEN TO
THEIR TRAUMA AND COMFORT THEM
EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND IT'S MY
JOB TO HELP KEEP THEM SAFE. I'VE
ALWAYS SUPPORTED EVERYTHING, ALL
THE INVESTMENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE
TALKED ABOUT TODAY. THAT THEY
SAID ARE IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR
COMMUNITY SAFE FROM FOOD ACCESS,
TO AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS. OUR
CARE TEAMS, SOCIAL WORKER, HUMAN
SERVICES, COMMUNITY
REINVESTMENT. THAT CAME FROM THE
STATE THROUGH CANNABIS SOCIAL
EQUITY. ARTS PROGRAMS, DIVERSION
PROGRAMS. MY WHOLE LINE HAS BEEN
WE CAN INVEST $1,500 TODAY IN
OUR YOUTH OR WE'RE GOING TO BE
INVESTING $40,000 FOR ECHO GLEN.
THAT HAS BEEN MY LINE ALL THE
TIME ABOUT OUR YOUTH. AND I'VE
ALWAYS USED MY PLATFORM FOR
THESE RESOURCES AS WELL. I
DIDN'T NEED TO RUN FOR OFFICE
TO SHOW UP FOR COMMUNITY. I'VE
BEEN DOING THAT SINCE DAY ONE.
AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
ME TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO THAT.
MY INTERACTIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
TO HELP PEOPLE. AND I BELIEVE
THAT WE HAVE SOME SAFEGUARDS IN
PLACE WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT
HAVE BEEN PLACED. THAT HAVE BEEN
VOTED ON. AND ALSO, TOO, THIS IS
REALLY HARD, THIS IS REALLY
DIFFICULT AS MY INTENTIONS
PERSONALLY ARE TO TRY TO FIGURE
OUT DIFFERENT AVENUES AND TOOLS
IN OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE A BALANCED
APPROACH. THAT I'M LISTENING TO
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT SHOWN UP
HERE. THAT I'VE TALKED TO
PEOPLE EVERY DAY. THAT ARE ON
23rd AND JACKSON. PARENTS THAT
ARE AT WASHINGTON SCHOOL OR
GARFIELD PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE A
DIFFERENT OPINION FROM PEOPLE
WHO SPOKE TODAY. THAT MAY HAVE A
DIFFERENT OPINION ON PEOPLE WHO
SENT E-MAILS. THAT HAS BEEN MY
JOB TO LISTEN AND FIND A
BALANCE. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED
THIS IN COMMITTEE AND I'M ALSO
GOING TO BE SUPPORTING IT TODAY
AND MAKING SURE THAT I USE MY
POSITION THAT WHILE THIS
TECHNOLOGY IS BEING IMPLEMENTED,
THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN
OUR POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT
IT'S NOT MISUSED. AND WE CAN
ALSO, AND I KNOW SOMEONE JUST
LAUGHED THERE. I'M REALLY
SERIOUS ABOUT THAT WHEN I SAY
IT. YOU CAN LAUGH IF YOU WANT
TO. THAT'S FINE. BUT I'M
SERIOUS WHEN I HAVE TAKEN THIS
OATH TO MAKE SURE THAT I PROTECT
PEOPLE FROM DAY ONE. BECAUSE I
LITERALLY HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE
PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST FAMILIES
AND LOVED ONES. AND THEY'RE
TEXTING ME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
NIGHT ON THEIR TRAUMA BECAUSE
THEY CAN'T AFFORD GROCERIES.
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE ABLE TO
TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOLS. OR I
GO TO THEIR FUNERALS. I
LITERALLY HAVE TO ANSWER TO
THESE PEOPLE AND I DO BELIEVE
THIS COULD BE A TOOL AND
TECHNOLOGY TO HELP WITH
INVESTIGATION FOR OUR CITY IN
CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE SEE A RISE
IN CERTAIN CRIME AND ACTIVITIES
IN OUR CITY. SO THAT IS MY
POSITION. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE
HERE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT BUT
THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY I
HAVE TO RESPOND AND BE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE IN OUR
DISTRICT. SO, I WILL BE VOTING
YES ON THIS LEGISLATION AND
THANK YOU.
>> PRESIDENT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE. I
WOULD, I WON'T REPEAT A LOT OF
THE THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY
SAID. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS
LEGISLATION. I DO WANT TO, JUST
COMMENT ON THE, OKAY. I WANT TO
COMMENT ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE
IN THE PAST, WE EXTENDED, WE
ACTUALLY ADDED AND EXPANDED TO
THE CARE DEPARTMENT BEFORE THE,
BEFORE WE GOT THE EVALUATION
PROJECT. I MEAN THE EVALUATION
REPORT WHICH WAS DUE AT THE END
OF THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE
RESULTS OF THE, OF WHAT WE WERE
SEEING ON THE STREET. AND SO IT
IS NOT UNPRECEDENTED TO GO AHEAD
AND EXPAND THE PROGRAM BEFORE
THE END OF THE PILOT PROGRAM OR
BEFORE WE HAVE RECEIVED THE PLAN
FOR, EVALUATION. COUNCIL MEMBER
SAKA.
>> THANK YOU MA'AM PRESIDENT. I
WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK
THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO
TOOK TIME TO COME OUT AND
PRESENT COMMENT TODAY. THOSE WHO
HAVE SUBMITTED E-MAIL COMMENTS
AND FEED BACK OVER THE LAST FEW
WEEKS. REALLY FEW MONTHS SINCE
THIS PROPOSAL WAS ORIGINALLY
TRANSMITTED. AND HAS BEEN GONE
THROUGH OUR COMMITTEE REVIEW
PROCESS TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT FOR
JUST A BIT TO THANK THE
COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION FOR
THEIR TERRIFIC WORK. AND FOR
MEETING WITH MY OFFICE. TO
DISCUSS THEIR FEED BACK AND
SPECIFIC CONCERNS. THANK YOU TO
THE CBC FOR BEING SUCH A GOOD
ADVOCATE FOR MANY COMMUNITIES
ACROSS THE CITY OF SEATTLE. I
ALSO WANT TO THANK THE OFFICE OF
CIVIL RIGHTS FOR THEIR
ENGAGEMENT AND ADVOCACY AS WELL.
COMMUNITY VOICE IS NEEDED NOW
MORE THAN EVER. AS WE FACE
UNPRECEDENTED ATTACKS ON OUR
FREEDOM AND VALUES FROM THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. INCLUDING
ATTEMPTS TO MILITARIZE OUR
CITIES AND WEAPONIZE OUR
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM AGAINST OUR
FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. IN THE
IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE COMMUNITY.
AS SOMEONE WHO'S A PROUD SON OF
A NIGERIAN IMMIGRANT, SOMEONE
WHO HAS WENT TO TITLE 13
DIFFERENT K THROUGH 12 TITLE ONE
SCHOOLS GROWING UP. ALL OF THEM,
FOR KIDS LIKE MYSELF AT THE
TIME, FROM DISADVANTAGED
BACKGROUNDS. SOCIO ECONOMICALLY,
TONS OF REFUGEES. THIS IS AN
ISSUE THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO
ME. BALANCING THE MANY NEEDS.
WE'RE HEARING VALID CONCERNS.
VALID FEED BACK FOR MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC TODAY AND OVER THE
PAST FEW MONTHS. TO COUNCIL
MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH'S POINT.
WE'RE ALSO HEARING CONCERNS AND
FEED BACK FROM MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC THAT WANT ASSISTANCE AND
WANT BETTER ACTION AGAINST
PROPERTY CRIME, AND VIOLENT
CRIME. WE NEED TO HOLD
INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTABLE FOR
THAT. SO BALANCING THESE
COMPETING NEEDS IS VERY
IMPORTANT. I HAPPEN TO REPRESENT
SOUTH PARK. A COMMUNITY AND
NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A VERY,
OBVIOUSLY A VERY HIGH LATINO
POPULATION. HISPANIC POPULATION,
THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
I.C.E. RIGHT NOW AND IMMIGRATION
ENFORCEMENT. I ALSO REPRESENT
NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE, HIGH POINT.
ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT HAS A
HIGH CONCENTRATION OF IMMIGRANT
REFUGEES. MOSTLY FROM EAST
AFRICA. MANY OF WHICH ARE ALSO
CONCERNED ABOUT AGGRESSIVE
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT BY THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RIGHT NOW.
THESE ARE VERY VALID CONCERNS.
THIS IS NOT EASY STUFF THAT
WE'RE CALLED UPON NOW TO, TO
MAKE DECISIONS. SO THANK YOU
COLLEAGUES AS WELL. I THINK THE
AMENDED BILL BEFORE US, RESPONDS
TO MANY NOT ALL OF THE VALID
CONCERNS THAT WE'RE HEARING.
AND WE'VE SEEN VARIOUS COUNCIL
MEMBERS PROPOSE IDEAS BECAUSE
THEY CARE. WE'VE SEEN US TAKE
POSITIONS AND ATTEMPT TO STEP
OUTSIDE OF OUR COMFORT ZONES.
REPRESENTING OUR CONSTITUENTS
BEST INTEREST. TRYING TO GOVERN
FROM A MAJORITARIAN PERSPECTIVES
BECAUSE THESE ARE VALID CONCERNS
THAT WE HAVE. I WANT TO THANK
OUR COLLEAGUES FOR ALL THE WORK
THAT GOT US TO THIS POINT. HERE
WE ARE. THAT SAID. I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION
TODAY. I BELIEVE THIS PILOT
PROGRAM PROVIDES OUR CITY A
NEEDED SAFETY TOOL WITH STRONG
DATA AND PRIVACY PROTECTIONS AND
IT REFLECTS A VERY LIMITED
PROGRAM. NOT ONLY SET OUT AND
DEFINED IN THE CONTEXT OF THESE
CURRENT CONVERSATIONS AND
DELIBERATIONS ABOUT THIS
PROPOSAL. BUT ALSO, PRIOR
RELATED TECHNOLOGIES. EARLIER
LAST YEAR WHEN WE ORIGINALLY
AUGHT RAOEUSZED THE SERVE FOR --
AUTHORIZED THE CCTV, I'M PROUD
TO PUT SECURITY SAFEGUARDS
INSURING THAT UNDER NO
CIRCUMSTANCES, WE'LL BE
PROVIDING. BECAUSE OF THAT
EARLIER WORK. ARE BAKED INTO THE
BASE PROPOSAL THAT ARE GOING
TODAY. WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS
OF AMENDING IT AND IN MY VIEW
MAKING IT EVERYONE BETTER. AND
SO, THIS IS, TO COUNCIL MEMBER
SOLOMONS EARLY POINT. IT IS AND
CAN BE AN IMPORTANT CRIME
FIGHTING TOOL AND IT CAN ALSO BE
A HELPFUL INVESTIGATIVE TOOL.
BECAUSE WE HEAR CONCERNS FROM
RESIDENTS TIRED OF PROPERTY
CRIME, TIRED OF HAVING THEIR
HOMES SHOT UP. TIRED OF, THEFT.
AND PROVIDE OVERSIGHT REFLECTING
SEATTLE'S VALUES OF
COLLABORATION AND LOOKING OUT
FOR ONE ANOTHER. OUR CITY IS
EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED FROM USING
TOOLS LIKE THIS AS A MEANS TO
WORK WITH AGENCIES LIKE I.C.E.,
AND OUR CITY WILL LIMIT ITS USE
AS A TOOL TO KEEP EVERYONE IN
OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. AND THIS
TOOL FOR SPD IN THIS CASE AND
I'M CONFIDENT, I TOO SHARE THE
CONFIDENCE AND POLICE CHIEF
BARNES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
ROBUST COMPREHENSIVE PROTECTIONS
BAKED INTO THIS LEGISLATION ARE
FAITHFULLY AND STEADFAST FULLY
EXECUTED, STEADFAST FULLY
PROBABLY NOT A WORD. BUT
IMPLEMENTED. INCLUDING THE PIECE
OF PAUSING. THANK YOU COUNCIL
MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBERS RINCK
AND KETTLE FOR THE INCLUDING
YOUR AMENDMENT TO ALLOW US TO
PAUSE IF WE RECEIVE ANY OF THOSE
SUBPOENAS OR ANY MECHANISMS
INDICATING THAT THIS, WE'RE
BEING REQUESTED BY FEDERAL
AGENCIES FOR IMMIGRATION
PURPOSES. THIS BILL IS BETTER
BECAUSE OF YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR
LEADERSHIP. AS A FORMER
PRACTICING TECHNOLOGY ATTORNEY,
DATA PROTECTION, LAWYER, AND
SOMEONE WHO JUST GEEKS OUT ABOUT
TECHNOLOGY GENERALLY. I THINK
THAT THIS LIMITED USE AND
DEPLOYMENT OF TECHNOLOGY IN
SEATTLE IS IMPORTANT. ESPECIALLY
AS AMENDED. FOR ME PERSONALLY IF
I SENSE IN ANY WAY THAT THIS
PILOT PROGRAM IS BEING USED
IMPROPERLY, OR NOT IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE STRICT GUARDRAILS WE
LAID OUT. I WILL BE AMONG THE
FIRST TO CALL FOR ITS IMMEDIATE
SECESSION. ALSO AS VICE CHAIR OF
OUR COUNCIL COMMITTEE I TAKE MY
ROLE FOR OVERSIGHT VERY
SERIOUSLY. I COMMIT TO ENSURING
THIS TECHNOLOGY IS USED BY OUR
POLICE DEPARTMENT PROPERLY, AND
IS NOT, A COERCIVE TOOLS BY THE
ACTORS OF THE OTHER WASHINGTON.
FINALLY I WANT TO THANK THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE, PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE CHAIR KETTLE OUR OWN
CENTRAL STAFF ANALYSIS ON THIS
TOPIC IN THE CASE OF THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SHERIFF
KETTLE YOUR LEADERSHIP. THIS IS
NOT THE END ALL BE ALL. THIS IS
NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL OF OUR
PROBLEMS. BUT IT WILL HELP
INVESTIGATE SOME CRIME. FOR
THOSE REASONS I WILL BE
SUPPORTING IT TODAY. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I WANT TO START, I'LL TRY TO
BE BRIEF. I REALLY APPRECIATE
THOSE WHO SHOWED UP TODAY. AND
COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK, THERE WERE
105. WIZ KEEPING TRACK TOO. I
HAVE BEEN ON THIS DIUS ENOUGH
THAT KNOW WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WHEN PEOPLE
DON'T COME OUT THERE'S PEOPLE
OUT THERE THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF
THIS. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS
AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY. FIRST
OF ALL I HEARD A LOT OF
MISINFORMATION HERE TODAY. I
DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE GOT
THEIR INFORMATION BUT I WANT TO
TELL YOU WHAT I LOOKED AT. I HAD
AN OPPORTUNITY BEING A MEMBER OF
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
MEETING WHERE WE VOTED THIS OUT
OF COMMITTEE. AND READ THE
MATERIAL. I DID READ THE OFFICE
OF CIVIL RIGHTS POLICY BRIEFING
MEMO. THANK YOU DIRECTOR WHEELER
SMITH. I LOOKED AT THE THREE
ARTICLES AND YOU TUBE THAT WAS
PRESENTED. I WANT TO THANK THE
SEATTLE POLICE COMMISSION. I
READ THEIR LETTER AND THAT WAS
ON SEPTEMBER 4th. AND I READ THE
CHIEF'S RESPONSE DATED
SEPTEMBER 5th IN RESPONSE TO
THEIR SEPTEMBER 4th LETTER.
YESTERDAY WE GOT FIVE NEW
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE INTRODUCED
AND WE WERE BRIEFED ON THEM
YESTERDAY AND I GOT A CHANCE TO
SIT AND TALK TO FOLKS ABOUT ALL
OF THAT AND WHAT WE HEARD. I'VE
BEEN ON COUNCIL AND HAVE HEARD
FROM OUR COMMUNITY. WHETHER WE
WERE TALKING ABOUT CAMERA VESTS,
SHOT SPOTTER, I'VE SEEN IT ALL,
I'VE HEARD IT AUTOMAKER. BEFORE
I GO ANY FURTHER ON A PERSONAL
NOTE, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL
MEMBER SOLOMON ON HIS WORDS AND
THE FACT THAT IT'S PRETTY
OBVIOUS WHEN YOU HAVE COUNCIL
MEMBER SOLOMON, HOLLINGSWORTH
AND SAKA, OF COLOR. I JUST WANT
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, COUNCIL
MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH I KNOW IT
WAS HARD FOR YOU TO MAKE THE
DECISION YOU MADE. AND YOU AND I
HAVE HAD LONG TALKS ABOUT RACE,
POLITICS, VIOLENCE, WE'VE ALSO
HAD LONG TALKS ABOUT RIGHTS AND
RESPONSIBILITIES. PRIVILEGE AND
ACCOUNTABILITY. I KNOW IT
WASN'T EASY FOR YOU TO DO WHAT
YOU DID TODAY. AND I WANT TO
THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE AN UP
AND COMING LEADER BECAUSE I'M SO
APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. MY
COMMUNITY HAS BEEN IN DANGER.
HAS BEEN TARGETED, HUNTED EENSL
AVED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS
COUNTRY. SO MAYBE SOME OF YOU
FEEL DIFFERENT ABOUT A DATA
BREACH. I TELL YOU WHAT I FEEL
ABOUT. I AM WORKING AND DEALING
WITH DEATH. GUN VIOLENCE,
VIOLENT CRIME, INCARCERATION.
RACIAL INEQUITY, RACIAL
TARGETING, IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT'S A
POLITICAL ACT AND I LEARNED THIS
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH. TO GET UP AT 65
AND BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY
AS A MEMBER OF COLOR COMMUNITY.
AS A MEMBER OF THE LATINA. I
DON'T GET TO SIT DOWN. OUR
COMMUNITIES HAVE NOT HAD THE
LUXURY OF CALLING 911. OUR
PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED. I
APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION. WE GOT
DEATH, THREATS AGAIN AND I WROTE
THEM DOWN. FIVE. ONE REGARDING A
GUN. FOUR TO OUR PERSONALS
BECAUSE WE'RE DOING OUR JOB.
NOW I THANK THAT YOU'RE ALL
ALLIES AND YOU CARE ABOUT US, I
GUESS WE'RE BIPROXS NOW. THANK
YOU. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I
DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY THAT MANY
OF YOU HAVE. MY DAUGHTERS DON'T
HAVE THAT LUXURY, MY BROTHERS,
MY SISTER. SAKA THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE GREW UP.
WHERE WE WALK AS PEOPLE OF COLOR
AND DEALT WITH THIS. SO I'M NOT
WORRIED ABOUT A DATA BREACH.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE
LEGISLATIONS AND THE VOICES YOU
HEARD IN COMMITTEE AND THEN SOME
TO MAKE IT RIGHT. IT'S A PILOT
PROGRAM. AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER
SOLOMON SAID IT IS AN
INVESTIGATIVE TOOL. NO ONE EVER
SAID A CAMERA STOPS VIOLENCE.
AND YOU CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT
THE TRUMP REGIME. WE ALL WATCH
THE NEWS. WE GET IT. WE KNOW.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO WITH FEAR,
I'M GOING TO GO WITH FACTS.
I'M GOING TO GO WITH SUBJECT
MATTER, EXPERTISE, KNOWLEDGE AND
RESPECT FOR EVERYONE IN THIS
ROOM. FOR THOSE OF YOU, I HOPE
YOU CAN BE RESPECTFUL TO ME THE
WAY I'VE BEEN TO YOU TO LISTEN
TO YOU FOR OVER THREE HOURS.
WHEN I'VE BEEN IN UP IN THIS
DIUS FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I GOT
TO WITNESS SOME BEHAVIOR. IT
COMES WITH A LOT AND I'M TIRED
OF IT. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THIS BILL TODAY. THANK YOU
COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES
FOR ALL THEIR COMMENTS BECAUSE
THESE ARE REALLY HARD DECISIONS
THAT WE MAKE ON A REGULAR BASIS
AND ESPECIALLY TODAY. I WANT TO
SAY WE ALL AGREE ON THE
EGREGIOUS TACTICS OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. WE WERE
CONCERNED ABOUT IT POTENTIAL
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHICH IS
WHY I SAID EARLIER, WE PUT
GUARDRAILS IN PLACE OF THE
ORIGINAL CCTV AT THE TIME AND
NOW FOR THIS EXPANSION THAT
WE'RE TAKING UP TO ADDRESS THE
PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES BEING
EXPERIENCED ACROSS THE CITY.
WHAT ABOUT THOSE RESIDENTS
DEALING WITH FIRES SHOT IN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HEAR FROM
ON A REGULAR BASIS. ON A DAILY
BASIS. WHAT ABOUT OUR SMALL
BUSINESSES. MANY THAT ARE FROM
OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, WHO
ARE EXPERIENCING PUBLIC SAFETY
ISSUES WHEN THEY'RE JUST TRYING
TO MAKE ENDS MEET. WHAT ABOUT
THOSE PARENTS WHO'S CHILDREN
HAVE BEEN MURDERED OR INJURED
AND WHO'S CRIMES HAVE NOT BEEN
SOLVED YET. JUST THIS WEEKEND
ALONE, A 17-YEAR-OLD WAS SHOT IN
MY DISTRICT AT COLLIN PARK AND
TO MY KNOWLEDGE NO ARRESTS HAVE
BEEN MADE. NOW I UNDERSTAND
THESE CAMERAS ARE NOT GOING TO
BE AT COLLIN PARK BUT THESE
CAMERAS ARE GOING TO BE IN
PLACES WHERE WE'VE HEARD PUBLIC
SAFETY AND THESE CRIMES ARE
HAPPENING. TO ME, THIS IS A
CRIME SOLVING TOOL. I'M GLAD TO
KNOW THAT THIS VIDEO IS
AUTOMATICALLY DELETED AFTER FIVE
DAYS. UNLESS IT IS BEING PULLED
FOR A CRIME IN THE CITY. THAT'S
ANOTHER GUARDRAIL. AS A LATINA
WOMAN WHO GREW UP IN THE INNER
CITY AND AS A MOTHER WHO'S KIDS
AND THEIR PEERS WERE INVOLVED AS
A SCHOOL SHOOTING AND AS SOMEONE
WHO DID KNOW YOUR RIGHTS
EDUCATION AFTER SEPTEMBER 11th
ANISIMOVA VERSE REU -- AN
ANNIVERSARY WE'RE GOING TO BE
LOOKING AT IN SEVERAL DAYS. I DO
NOT NEED TO BE TOLD THAT I DO
NOT UNDERSTAND. I AM SO GLAD
YOU'RE PASSIONATE, YOU HEAR
I'M PASSIONATE TOO. WE CAN
AGREE TO DISAGREE ON CERTAIN
THINGS. BUT WE NEED TO RESPECT
EACH OTHER AND LIKE COUNCIL
MEMBER JUAREZ, I SAT HERE FOR
THREE HOURS LISTENING TO
EVERYONE RESPECTFULLY. BECAUSE I
CARE, I CARE THOUGH YOU MAY NOT
BELIEVE IT, WHAT YOU HAVE TO
SAY. AND I ALSO CARE ABOUT THE
PHONE CALLS AND ALL THE E-MAILS
THAT WE GOT. AND THE
CONVERSATIONS IN COMMUNITY. SO I
WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS
LEGISLATION. AND THIS WILL NOT
BE THE END OF THIS LEGISLATION
BECAUSE THERE WILL BE EVALUATION
OF THIS LEGISLATION. AND WE'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
OUR PARTNERS AT THE COMMUNITY
POLICE COMMISSION, THE OIG AND
OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE
CONTINUE TO USE THIS WE'RE
DOING IT RIGHT AND IT DOESN'T
HAVE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
BUT WE ARE TRYING TO USE THESE
TOOLS ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN
WE'RE STILL UNDER STAFFED AT
SPD. SO THIS CANNOT BE AN ALL OR
NOTHING. WE HAVE TO WORK
TOGETHER, WE HAVE TO AGREE TO
DISAGREE ON SOME THINGS AND WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS
TOGETHER. AND I DON'T WANT
FOLKS TO CHECK OUT BECAUSE YOU
DIDN'T GET THE RESULTS THAT YOU
DIDN'T WANT. WE NEED TO
CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE BEAT BACK
THIS ADMINISTRATION THEY WANT US
TO BE DIVIDED. AND WE CANNOT DO
THAT. YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO,
IT'S YOUR RIGHT BUT I DON'T
WANT TO. SO YOU CAN DISAGREE
WITH MY VOTE TODAY. AND I STILL
WANT TO WORK WITH YOU TIMOTHY.
AND I'M GLAD YOU CAME HERE
TODAY. AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE
OUR CONVERSATIONS. AND I RESPECT
YOU. SO, I WILL BE VOTING ON
THIS TODAY AND I DO THANK ALL OF
YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THANK
YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER
COMMENTS. SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO
HAVE THE LAST WORD.
>> I THANK YOU COUNCIL
PRESIDENT. THANK YOU COLLEAGUES
FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND FROM WHERE
THEY COME FROM. I THINK IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT TO HEAR IT.
QUICKLY I JUST WANTED TO SAY, NO
COMMENTS WERE MADE RELATED TO
ALPR. THERE'S ONLY 43 PEOPLE
WHO HAVE ACCESSED THE. A THIRD
ARE FROM THE INTEL INVESTIGATORS
GROUP AND A THIRD WERE FROM THE
CRIME CENTER. WHEN THEY ACCESS
ALP DATA THEY HAVE TO ENTER THE
CASE NUMBER AS WELL AS A BRIEF
STATEMENT OF PROBABLE CAUSE OR
REASONABLE SUSPICION FOR THE
VEHICLE AND THE INVOLVEMENT IN A
CRIME. I HEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN. THERE ARE SEVERAL
PIECES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
WE KEEP ADDRESSING THEM. BY THE
WAY THERE'S NOT 400 CAMERAS
WITHIN THE CCTV PROGRAM. I
REALLY APPRECIATE. AT THE SAME
TIME I HAVE TO MOTE THAT WHEN IT
SAYS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE
OVERWHELMING AGAINST EXPANSION.
THAT'S QUITE CLEAR BECAUSE WE
DO OUR OWN OUTREACH. AND YOU
KNOW, AS NOTED TOO, YOU KNOW,
THE EXPANSION INCREASES MISTRUST
OF THE CITY AND SPD, WHAT ALSO
INCREASES MISTRUST OF SEATTLE
AND SPD, IS THE INABILITY TO
AGREE WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
CHALLENGES TO THE ABILITY THAT
WE CAN. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY
THAT, YOU KNOW THE CITY HAS NOT
FULFILLED ITS PROMISE -PS --
PROMISES TO LISTEN COMMUNITY. I
HEAR DAY IN AND DAY OUT, DAY IN
AND DAY OUT, SO, I MAKE THAT
PROMISE. I CARRY THROUGH ON THAT
PROMISE. AND FOR THE OFFICE OF
CIVIL RIGHTS, WE FOLLOW AS
STATED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
TO BALANCE POTENTIAL LEGAL
SYSTEM BENEFITS WITH STRONG
PROTECTIONS FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND
LIBERTIES AND SAFEGUARDS AGAINST
DIFFERENT IMPACTS ON --
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. I
REALIZE WE'RE A COUNTRY IN
CRISIS. SOMETHING I'VE SEEN
AROUND THE WORLD AGAIN AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN. 2003, 2004 I WAS IN
BAGHDAD THINKING HOW LUCKY ARE
WE AS A COUNTRY TO HAVE OUR
FOUNDING FATHERS, OUR
CONSTITUTION AND INSTITUTIONS. I
DON'T SAY THAT ANYMORE. OUR
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN ON
AN AUTHORITARIAN NATION AND
APPROACH. I ALSO RECOGNIZE AND I
HEAR YOU ABOUT THE TIE TO OUR
SITUATION HERE IN SEATTLE AND
I'VE HEARD AND READ THE
CONNECTIONS MADE BY MANY TO
COUNCIL BILLS 121052 AND 121053.
I UNDERSTOOD THE POINTS AND I
ALSO KNOW THE EFFORTS MADE AND
THESE TWO BILLS TO PROTECT THE
CITY AND TO CREATE A SAFE BASE.
THESE BILLS INCORPORATE THE
SEATTLE WAY. SEPARATELY, AND
THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT I HAVE
SPOKEN TO THE ISSUES OF FEDERAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND NATIONAL
GUARD DEPLOYMENTS AND COMMITTEE
DURING CHAIR COMMENT -PT -- AND
WITH A STATEMENT RELEASED LAST
WEEK. IT IS ABOUT
PROFESSIONALISM. IT IS ABOUT
HAVING A HIGH STANDARD. WE DO
THAT. SPD DOES NOT USE FACE
COVERINGS. THEY HAVE TO ANNOUNCE
THEMSELVES. THEY HAVE TO
IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. THINGS THAT
ARE NOT HAPPENING WITH FEDERAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE MILITARY IS
FOR AMERICA'S DEFENSE. IT'S NOT
FOR PARTISAN AND POLITICAL
DEPLOYMENTS THAT ARE
PERFORMATIVE. YOU KNOW THE
NATIONAL GUARD WE DO NOT NEED
THE NATIONAL GUARD HERE IN
SEATTLE. THE NAVY SENT ME TO THE
NAVAL COMMAND. WE DON'T NEED
THEM. I DON'T NEED SOME PLANNER
IN THE NATIONAL GUARD BUREAU IN
THE PENTAGON. WE DO NOT NEED
THAT. WHAT WE DO NEED IS ATF,
DEA, FBI TO STOP THE FLOW OF
GUNS AND DRUGS UP THE I4
CORRIDOR. A PROGRAM TO AID, OUR
EQUIPMENT FOR SEATTLE FIRE
DEPARTMENT AND IMPORTANTLY TIED
TO THAT IS SUPPORT FEMA. WE
DON'T NEED THE NATIONAL GUARD.
WE DO NOT NEED WHAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS PROPLGS. --
PROMISING. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED.
I ALSO RECOGNIZE THE RISK THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT A RISK
BASED ON OUR CCTV AND RTCC BILLS
IN ARP2 THAT INCORPORATE THE
SEATTLE WAY. THE SEATTLE VALUES.
THE AMENDMENT FROM TODAY FURTHER
ADDS. LASTLY, WE HAVE A CHARTER
RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
SAFETY TO OUR CITY. OVER THE
LAST DECADE WE HAVE FAILED IN
THAT. RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE
THAT SAFETY. WE HAVE MADE THAT
CONNECTION. OUR TECHNOLOGY BILL
SUCH AS ARP IN 24 AND ARE MAKING
AN IMPACT IN 25. I'M ALREADY
SEEING DATA. I'M ALREADY SEEING
DATA ON THESE BILLS BECAUSE I'VE
BEEN OUT TO THE PRECINCTS. I'VE
TALKED TO SERGEANTS, I'VE TALKED
TO LIEUTENANTS ON THESE PIECES
IN EVIDENCE WITH WHAT HAPPENED
IN CID JUST WITHIN THE LAST 24
HOURS. COUNCIL BILLS 121052 AND
121053 WILL FURTHER AID US IN
OUR RESPONSIBILITIES. SO
COLLEAGUES, I ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT ON THIS BILL. BOTH BILLS
TO BE FRANK. THANK YOU COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
>> THANK YOU. I AM NOT SEEING
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS. SO WILL
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON THE ADOPTION OF THE
APH*EPBDED BILL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> 7 IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE BILL
PASSES AS AMENDED AND THE CHAIR
WILL SIGN IT. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE
LEGISLATION ON MY BEHALF.
>> AND WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
READ ITEM THREE INTO THE RECORD.
>> COUNCIL BILL RELATED TO
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND
IMPLEMENTATION. AND TO O2025
EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW. THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE BILL
PASS.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. YOU'RE
RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE
THE COMMITTEE REPORT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT
AND IN THE INTEREST OF
EVERYBODY'S TIME AND THE FACT
THAT THIS BILL IS BASICALLY
PAIRED WITH COUNCIL BILL 121053.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE
VARIOUS POINTS THAT RELATE TO
RTCC AND THE CCTV, WITH ALL THE
DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD. ALL THE
POINTS THAT WERE MADE I ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT IN PASSING THIS
BILL. THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? I'M
NOT SEEING ANY COMMENTS ON, NOT
SEEING ANY HANDS UP HERE. I
WOULD LIKE TO ADJUST AN
OBSERVATION HERE. SDOT CURRENTLY
OPERATING CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE
CITY. AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO
ANYBODY IN THE WORLD. SDOT
CONTROLS THE CAMERAS AND THEY'RE
A TOOL. INSURANCE COMPANIES USE
SOFTWARE TO CONSTANTLY RECORD
ALL CAMERA FEEDS LIVE. AND THOSE
RECORDINGS GET UP LOADED ON TO
YOU TUBE, INSTAGRAM, IN
COMPILATIONS OF CAR CRASHES
CAUGHT ON CAMERA. INSURANCE
COMPANIES USE THOSE RECORDINGS
AND THEIR INVESTIGATIONS TO
DETERMINE FAULT IN AUTOMOTIVE
CRASHES. AS IT STANDS, THE
ACTIONS OF THE RESOLUTION IN
THESE CAMERAS IS NOT VERY CLEAR.
NOT CLEAR ENOUGH TO MAKE OUT
INDIVIDUAL FACES BUT IT CAN
IDENTIFY SPECIFIC VEHICLES. SO
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT
THE FOOTAGE OF THESE SDOT
CAMERAS IS ALREADY BEING WIDELY
USED FOR MANY PURPOSES AND IT'S
ALSO BEING PRIVATIZED. TO ME
THAT'S IMPORTANT CONTEXT AS WE
LOOK INTO THIS LEGISLATION. AND
BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SIMPLY
ALREADY AVAILABLE FOOTAGE THAT
WILL BE USED IN, ITS USED BY
PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THIS
POINT. I'VE HAD THE OCCASION TO
GO TO VARIOUS CITIES IN THE
COUNTRY. LAST FALL WENT TO
WASHINGTON, D.C. VERY
PROGRESSIVE CITY. AND VISITED
THEIR REALTIME CRIME CENTER.
THEY CALL IT SOMETHING
DIFFERENT. BUT THAT HAS 44,
44,000 PRIVATE FEEDS GOING INTO
IT FROM ROADS AND ALSO
BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS ETC. SO
WHAT WE ARE, TO ME WHAT THIS IS
ALL ABOUT IS USING EVERY SINGLE
TOOL IN OUR TOOL BOX TO HELP
KEEP OUR, RESIDENTS AND OUR
BUSINESSES SAFER. AVAILING
OURSELVES OF TECHNOLOGY THAT IS
IN USE IN VARIOUS CITIES IN THE
COUNTRY. I INVITE TO BRING OTHER
COMMENTS. YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD
BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE.
>> COLLEAGUES, WE DISCUSSED THIS
IN DEPTH. AND I ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT, THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF
THE BILL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> NO.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> 7 IN FAVOR, 2 OPPOSED.
>> THE BILL PASSES AND THE CHAIR
WILL SIGN IT. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE
LEGISLATION ON MY BEHALF.
>>> ALL RIGHT WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE READ ITEM FOUR INTO THE
RECORD.
>> THE FINANCE AND COMMITTEE
COUNCIL BILL 1210 CONTRACTS AND
MANY PROVISIONS OF THE ROSTER
AND CONTRACTOR BOND PROCESSES.
TO ALIGN WITH THE STATE LAW. THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE BILL
PASS.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, AS
MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED TO PROVIDE THE
COMMITTEE REPORT.
>> THANK YOU. I WOULD BE
INTERESTING IN HOLDING THE
REMAINING BILLS UNTIL NEXT
WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING. AS
SAYING YOU'RE AT 6:30 AND YOU
HAVE A MEMBER WITH A HARD 7.
>> WE WILL GO AS FAR AS WE CAN,
UNTIL, THIS IS ON. I BELIEVE MY
STAFF HAS GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH
YOUR STAFF TO FIND OUT IF THIS
HAS TO HAPPEN TODAY. I AM GOING
TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH
THIS PARTICULAR BILL.
>> PLEASE DO NOT IMPUGN MY STAFF
AND MYSELF.
>> IT IS MY INTENTION TO GO
THROUGH AND GET THROUGH AND GET
AS MUCH DONE AS WE CAN. THERE
ARE THREE MORE ITEMS ON TODAY'S
AGENDA AND WE WILL END IN TIME
FOR OUR COLLEAGUE TO BE ABLE TO
LEAVE ON TIME. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THE BILL BEFORE US
IS COUNCIL BILL 121046. WHICH
ALLOWS THE CITY OF SEATTLE TO
ENGAGE IN THE SMALL WORKS ROSTER
THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE STATE
RATHER THAN HAVING BUSINESSES
REQUIRED TO SIGN UP FOR MANY
SMALL WORK ROSTERS. THIS ALLOWS
FOR ONE. IT IS AN ALLOWANCE. NOT
A REQUIREMENT AND A GOOD IDEA. I
URGE YOUR YES VOTE. THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? OKAY
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES.
>> JUAREZ.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ
ITEM FIVE INTO THE RECORD.
>> THE REPORT OF LAND USE
COMMITTEE AGENDA ITEM 5.
RELATEING TO LAND USE AND
ZONING. AMENDING CHAPTER 23.42
OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT. TO
REZONE LAND IN THE LAKE CITY
NEIGHBORHOOD. THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDS THE BILL PASS.
>> SOLOMON AS CHAIR.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD MY TIME
TO COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I AM SO EMBARRASSED. I'M SO
SORRY. I AM EATING A PIECE OF
CANDY. OKAY, THIS IS
EMBARRASSING. SO I'VE SAID THIS
BEFORE AND I'LL BE VERY, VERY
BRIEF. AGAIN, LAKE CITY
COMMUNITY CENTER, 10 YEARS IN
THE MAKING. OVER 10 YEARS IN THE
MAKING. FIRST IN SEATTLE TO
DEVELOP HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY
CENTER. TWO CITY DEPARTMENTS ALL
WORK TOGETHER IN THE LAST 10
YEARS, DEPARTMENT OF REC,
SEATTLE PUBLIC LIBRARIES. THE
TWO BOTTOM FLOORS WILL BE A
COMMUNITY CENTER. WORK OUT ROOM,
GYM AND WE HAVE A CHILDREN'S
CENTER. WE'RE VERY EXCITED
ABOUT THAT. 113 NEW HOMES ABOVE.
THESE ARE LARGE HOMES. THESE ARE
NOT TWO BEDROOM. TWO, THREE, AND
FOUR BEDROOMS TO SERVE WORKING
FAMILIES. THE HOMES WILL BE
AFFORDABLE WITH THE AVERAGE
INCOME AT 58MI. SO THIS IS VERY
EXCITING FOR US. WE'RE GOING TO
WORK WITH CHILD CARE. THEY WILL
PROVIDE HEALTH CARE AND CHILD
CARE. CONSTRUCTION IS SUPPOSED
TO START IN 2027 BUT I'M HOPING
WE CAN MOVE DIRT A LOT FASTER
BECAUSE WE NEED THAT HOUSING IN
THE CITY AND IN D5. WITH THE
LIBRARY AND THE FARMERS MARKET
RIGHT NEXT DOOR. WE'RE COMMITTED
THAT IT WILL NOT BE A GHOST
TOWN. AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL THOSE
THINGS THAT WE WANT. I DON'T
HAVE TO YIELD, I'M DONE. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
SOLOMON.
>> ALL RIGHT I'M NOT SEEING ANY
HANDS RAISED. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE PASS THE ROLE ON THE
PASSAGE OF THE BILL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> NINE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THE BILL PASSES AND THE CHAIR
WILL SIGN IT. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE.
>> AT THE BILL RIGHT GOLF
COMPLEX AT JEFFERSON PARK.
PORTIONS OF THE NETTING AND
POLLS WILL EXCEED ZONE HEIGHT
LIMITS. AND ARE INTENDED TO
ADDRESS TRESZ PASS SOERGTED WITH
RESTORED THESE LOCATION. AS
PROPOSED THE PROJECT REQUIRES
THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL UNDER
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE
23.76.064. WHICH ALSO AUTHORIZED
THE COUNCIL TO MODIFY
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR CITY
FACILITIES. SEATTLE PARKS
REQUESTS A WAIVER OF THE
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ALLOW
THE POLES AND NETTING TO EXCEED
THE HEIGHT LIMIT. THE DEPARTMENT
OF CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS
REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND ISSUED
ITS ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION
ON JULY 21, 2025. AND RECOMMENDS
APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT. ON
SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2025, LAND USE
COMMITTEE WAS BRIEFED ON THE
PROJECT. HELD A PUBLIC HEARING
AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
COUNCIL TO GRANT THE
MODIFICATION OF DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS AS CONDITIONED ON THE
CLERK FILE. I WILL ALSO ADD THAT
AT THAT MEETING THERE WERE SOME
REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION MADE
OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION. ONE OF WHICH IS TO
LOOK AT THE, MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF
THE NETTING TO BE CONSISTENT
WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE NETTING
AT THE DRIVING RANGE AT THE BILL
RIGHT COMPLEX. AS WELL AS TREE
PRESERVATION. IN ADDITION TO
GROUNDS MAINTENANCE TO REMOVE
THE BLACKBERRIES THEY'RE
ENCROACHING ON THE 24th AVENUE
SIDE TO ACTUALLY MADE THAT
COURSE MORE PLAYABLE. IF YOU
WILL. SO THOSE REQUESTS WERE
MADE AT COMMITTEE. AND THE
RECOMMENDATION FROM THE
COMMITTEE IS FOR APPROVAL AND
ADOPTION OF 314536.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT
REPORT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. SEEING
NONE. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON THE GRANTING OF THE
CONDITION.
>> KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> YES AYE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON.
>> AYE.
>> NINE IN FAVOR. NONE OPPOSED.
>> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX
MY SIGNATURE TO THE FINDINGS,
CONCLUSIONS AND DECISIONS ON MY
BEHALF. ALL RIGHT, THERE WERE NO
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AND THERE'S NOT A
RESOLUTION FOR INTRODUCTION AND
ADOPTION TODAY. SO, COLLEAGUES,
I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT, THE, WE
DID IT. WE GOT THROUGH ALL THE
ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR STICKING WITH US.
IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION,
COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGS WORTH
EXCUSED ABSENCE WILL BE
RESCINDED. HEARING NO OBJECTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH
SEPTEMBER 9 EXCUSED ABSENCE IS
NOW RESCINDED BECAUSE SHE IS
HERE. IS THERE ANY OTHER
BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE
COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. WE'VE
REACHED THE END OF TODAY'S
AGENDA. THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING
IS SCHEDULED ON SEPTEMBER 16 AT
2:00 P.M., IT IS NOW 6:37,
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR STICKING
WITH US. HEARING NO FURTHER