MONDAY, FEBRUARY 24 AND THE
SPECIAL GOVERNANCE AND
ACCOUNTABILITY MEETING WILL COME
TO ORDER. I AM CHAIR SARA
NELSON- . COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON
IS EXCUSED TODAY. THIS IS A
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR
THIS LEGISLATION. WELL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SMACKED
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH .
>> HERE .
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA .
>> PRESENT .
>> CHAIR NELSON ?
>> PRESENT .
>> AND WE ARE JOINED BY OTHER
COUNCILMEMBERS AS WEATHER. WE
WILL HAVE A HEARING ON ALLOWING
USE OF THE STADIUM OVER WAY
TRANSITION DISTRICT. FOLLOWING
THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WILL HAVE
A PANEL DISCUSSION ON THE SAME
MATTER WITH THE FREIGHT MOBILITY
COMMISSION AND THE INTERNATIONAL
LONGSHORE AND WAREHOUSE UNION AT
THE REQUEST OF COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE. IF NO OBJECTION , THE
AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED . HEARING
NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS
ADOPTED . AT THIS TIME WE OPEN
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR
THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR ITEMS
WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE
GOVERNANCE, ACCOUNTABILITY &
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
BUT PRIMARILY ONLY ON THIS
LEGISLATION . LET'S SEE, THE
PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEM CB
120933 RELATES TO THE SAME ITEMS
ON THE PUBLIC HEARING TOPICS. IF
YOU WOULD JUST SPEAK TO THE
ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, MAKE SURE
YOU HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THE
PUBLIC HEARING . THE SIGN-UP
SHEET IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET
OUT OF MY MOUTH HERE . I JUST
WANT TO RESTATE IT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT YOU WERE ON
RECORD FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING .
IF YOUR COMMENTS RELATE TO THE
HOUSING AND STADIUM DISTRICT, WE
NEED YOU TO HOLD THAT FOR A FEW
MINUTES ONCE WE START THE PUBLIC
HEARING SO YOUR COMMENTS CAN BE
PART OF THAT RECORD. HOW MANY
SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK
TODAY ?
>> AS OF NOW, WE HAVE ONE
VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENTOR WITH
REGARDS TO GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
>> OKAY , WE WILL HAVE ONE
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER
AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE
REST OF OUR AGENDA. GO AHEAD. HE
CAN HAVE ONE MINUTE, PLEASE .
>> I WILL CALL ON THE SPEAKERS
AND THE ORDER THEY SIGNED UP TO
SPEAK STARTING WITH THE VIRTUAL
COMMENTOR THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE
SPEAKER AND THERE IS ONE MINUTE.
WHEN YOU HEAR THE CHIME , THERE
ARE SECONDS LEFT AND YOU MAY BE
CUT OFF SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE
NEXT SPEAKER. PLEASE PRESS STAR
AND 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. THE
FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTOR WILL BE
DAVID HAYNES. PLEASE PRESS STAR
AND 6 ON YOUR CELL PHONE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M NOT
SEEING DAVID HAYNES AS
PRESIDENT?
>> OKAY , THEN WE WILL MOVE ON
TO THE REST OF OUR AGENDA .
>> IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT
FOR THE PURVIEW'S OF THE AGENDA
ITEM . THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, SO, THEN -- WILL YOU
PLEASE READ THE ITEM THAT IS NOW
-- WE WILL OFFICIALLY OPEN THE
PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR
MEETING. WOULD YOU PLEASE READ
THAT ITEM INTO THE RECORD?
>> ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS
COUNCIL BILL MOORE -- 120933
RELATING TO 23.74.002 AND
23.74.008 OF THE MUNICIPAL COLD
TO ALLOW MULTIPLE USES OF THE
STADIUM DIVISION OVERLAY
DISTRICT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING
.
>> I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE
PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM KNOW WHAT WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT THIS
LEGISLATION DOES. FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THE COUPLE -- AND
PUBLIC AND THIS LEGISLATION
WOULD AMEND PROVISIONS OF THE
LAND USE WHICH IS LINKED TO THE
AGENDA . THIS LEGISLATION WOULD
AMEND THE PROVISIONS OF THE LAND
USE CODE TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL
USES IN THE STADIUM TRANSITION
OVERLAID DISTRICT WHICH I CALL
SHORTHAND THE STADIUM DISTRICT
WHICH WAS STIPULATED IN THE
MAYOR'S FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT STATEMENT PRODUCED IN
2023 FOR THE INDUSTRIAL LAND
STRATEGY AND ZONING LEGISLATION.
IN 2023, THE LAND WITHIN THIS
STAOD, MOST RESIDENTIAL USES
WERE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE STAOD
. IT WOULD AMEND THE STAOD
PROVISION TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL
USES THAT COULD BE IN THE OTHER
OVERLAY DISTRICTS . ONE REQUIRES
50% OF DWELLING UNITS REMAIN
AVAILABLE AT AFFORDABLE RENT OR
AN AFFORDABLE SALE PRICE BY 60%
TO 90% AREA INCOME FOR A PERIOD
OF 75 YEARS. THE CONDITION
PROHIBITING RESIDENTIAL USES
WITHIN 200 FEET OF A MAJOR TRUCK
STREET WOULD BE REMOVED FOR A
TWO BLOCK STRETCH BETWEEN
MARTINEZ WAY AND SOUTH HOME GAIT
STREET BETWEEN FIRST AVENUE
SOUTH IN OCCIDENTAL'S AVENUE
SOUTH. I PUT THIS FORWARD
BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE NEED MORE
WORKFORCE HOUSING BUT PRIMARILY
TO INCREASE MORE AFFORDABLE
LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPACES FOR
SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE JOBS
THEY CREATE . THIS IS SUPPORTED
BY THE PIONEER SQUARE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STADIUM
AUTHORITIES . AND THE CID, IN
PART, FOR THE INCREASED PUBLIC
SAFETY THAT THE 24/7 ACTIVATION
BRINGS. THOSE ARE THE POLICY
GOALS I AM TRYING TO GET AT AND
AS PRESIDING OFFICER, I WILL
OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON COUNCIL
BILL 120933. HOW MANY SPEAKERS
ARE SIGNED UP TODAY ?
>> AT THIS POINT WE HAVE 10
VIRTUAL REMOTES BEAKERS AND 50
IN PERSON SPEAKERS .
>> ALL RIGHT , WE WILL GO AHEAD
WITH THEM. EVERYBODY GETS ONE
MINUTE AND WE WILL START -- I
WILL LIKE TO CALL ON FOLKS WHO
HAVE COME HERE FIRST. LET'S DO
20 IN PERSON AND THEN SWITCH TO
REMOTE, PLEASE. GO AHEAD . THEN
WE WILL GO BACK AND FORTH, BUT I
WANT TO MAKE SURE I PRIVILEGE
THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK OFF FROM
THEIR JOBS AND CAME HERE TO GIVE
COMMENT TODAY.
>> I WILL READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE
ORDER REGISTERED AND PUBLIC
ADMINISTRATION WILL BE OPEN
UNTIL CONCLUSION OF THIS
HEARING. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE
PROVIDED ONE MINUTE AND A 10
SECOND WARNING TO WRAP UP
COMMENTS. SPEAKER MICROPHONES
MAY BE MUTED AT THE END OF THE
ALLOTTED PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.
RELATED TO COUNCIL BILL 120933
WILL BE RELAYED AT THIS HEARING.
SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO BEGIN BY
STATING THEIR NAME . THE FIRST
10, IF YOU HAVE CARDS ONE
THROUGH 10, PLEASE COME ON DOWN.
>> MY APOLOGIES, FIRST WE WILL
START WITH COMMISSIONER HAWKINS
.
>> I FORGOT THE TRADITION OF
ALLOWING PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO
PROVIDE COMMENT FIRST.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO
HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO PREPARE MY
COMMENT .
>> [ LAUGHTER].
>> WAIT, COULD YOU PUT IT BACK
TO HIM -- THERE WE GO.
>> I CAN'T HEAR , MAYBE YOU
COULD SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE
.
>> LET'S SEE IF IT IS TURNED
UP.
>> IS THAT BETTER ?
>> YES.
>> FROM OUR DAYS AS THE LAST
STOP FOR KLONDIKE PROSPECTORS TO
BECOMING TIMBER EXPORTS AND
EVENTUALLY AEROSPACE, SEATTLE
HAS THRIVED ON TRADE. IT'S NO
ACCIDENT EITHER. SEATTLE
ATTRACTED IMPORTS AND BECAME A
WAY FOR GRAIN AND SEAFOOD TO
SHIP TO MARKETS AROUND THE
WORLD. THE PORT IS MORE THAN THE
DOCKS. IT'S AN ECOSYSTEM OF
HEAVY HAUL ROADS, RAILWAYS AND
HOUSING. THE AREA SOUTH IS THE
GRITTY BACK BONE OF THAT NETWORK
AND WE NEED TO MAINTAIN IT. WE
HAD A DEAL AND WE LOOK FORWARD
TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS. THIS
AMENDMENT CREATES A ROADBLOCK TO
FUTURE PROGRESS. WE ALL AGREE WE
NEED MORE HOUSING AND WE THINK
WE CAN NEGOTIATE AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR MORE HOUSING NEAR THE
STADIUM THAT DOES NOT PUT
MARITIME JOBS AT RISK. THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. [
APPLAUSE ].
>> I'M GOING TO DO THE JAZZ
HANDS RULE . PLEASE REFRAIN FROM
CLAPPING BECAUSE IT SLOWS DOWN
SPEAKERS. GO AHEAD, NEXT.
>> WE WILL RESUME FOR CARDS ONE
THROUGH 10. PLEASE COME ON DECK
. THANK YOU.
>> MY NAME IS TIA PETROVICH AND
I HAVE LIVED IN PIONEER SQUARE
OVER THREE DECADES. I AND 1000
OTHER RESIDENTS LIVE ON THE
NORTH EDGE OF LUMEN FIELD AND
IT'S OUR BACKYARD. WE ARE A
BOOKEND OF WHAT A MAKERS
DISTRICT COULD BE TO THE SOUTH
END OF THE BALLPARK WE ARE A
BLOCK AND A HALF OF WAY. AS
RESIDENTS, WE HAVE NEVER HAD
IMPACT ON THE PORT. WE ARE HALF
A BLOCK FROM THE STREET FRONT
AND A BLOCK FROM THE WATERFRONT.
THREE BLOCKS FROM THE FERRY BOAT
SYSTEM. IT'S A GREAT
NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT MOST OF
PIONEER SQUARE , MY HOME, THE
PORT, THE STADIUM AND THE
HIGHWAY 99 UNDERGROUND TUNNEL
ARE BUILT ON AND THROUGH
LANDFILL . WE KNOW HOW TO SAFELY
BUILD ON AND THROUGH LANDFILL.
WE NEED BUT HOUSING WHERE
APPROPRIATE AND POSSIBLE. THIS
PROJECT IS POSSIBLE AND IT IS
THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THANK
YOU.
>> CAN WE GET NUMBER 2, 3, 5, 6,
7, 8, 9 , AND 10 DOWN FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT .
>> I AM JOE WALL AND I WORK AS A
LONGSHOREMAN IN SEATTLE WITH A
FEW THOUGHTS ON THE PROPOSED
CHANGES . I AM OPPOSED TO
ANYTHING THAT ERODES OUR
INDUSTRIAL BASE, INCLUDING THIS
PROPOSAL THAT IS ZONED
INDUSTRIAL. IT IS A TAKE AWAY
FROM THE LAST MEETING I HAD NOT
HEARD OF WITH THE MAKERS AND
THAT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR
ABOUT . I NOTICED THE STADIUM
DISTRICTS WERE INVOLVED IN THIS.
I WENT ON THE INTERNET LOOKING
FOR MAKERS AND STADIUMS BUT I
COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING. I DID
FIND INFORMATION ABOUT LUXURY
HOUSING AROUND STADIUMS. A NEW
ANCHOR FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND
BILLIONAIRES ARE SNAPPING UP
REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPING MOVIE
THEATERS AND REALTY -- RETAIL
PARKS. SO, I SUSPECT THIS IS AN
INCREMENTAL PLAN AND WE JUST SEE
THE FRONT END OF IT. I DON'T
KNOW THAT MAKERS HAVE A PLACE IN
THEIR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT HERE,
IN REALITY . THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. JUST A
REMINDER THAT THERE WILL BE A 10
SECOND WARNING TO WRAP UP
COMMENTS. NEXT WE HAVE NUMBER 3.
>> HELLO , CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> HI , MY NAME IS JANE SQUIRES
AND I OWN A DESSERT COMPANY AND
WE ALSO OWN A DESSERT TRUCK. I
AM HERE AS A MEMBER OF SEATTLE
MADE TO SUPPORT COUNCIL BILL
120933 FOR STADIUM MAKERS
DISTRICT . I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS
TIMES WHERE I HAVE NEEDED TO
FIND A CONVENIENT LOCATION
THAT'S AFFORDABLE AND SEATTLE .
LAST YEAR I PERSONALLY PAID
CLOSE TO $4000 PER MONTH FOR
KITCHEN SPACE AND I OWNED MOST
OF THE EQUIPMENT, BOTH SMALL AND
LARGE. THE HIGH COSTS ARE
STIFLING GROWTH AND INNOVATION
FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. WE NEED
MORE AFFORDABLE KITCHEN OPTIONS
AND A CENTRALLY LOCATED PLACE IN
THE CITY TO SUPPORT LOCAL
ENTREPRENEURS AND FOSTER A
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU. CAN WE PLEASE GET
5, 6, 7, 8, 9, AND 10 DOWN. 4
DECIDED NOT TO DO PUBLIC
COMMENTS AND WE WILL GO TO 5.
THANK YOU.
>> HELLO, I AM JOHN MARCHIONE
AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE PUBLIC STADIUM AUTHORITY
LUMEN FIELD. THE STADIUM
AUTHORITY IS FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF
COUNCIL BILL 120933 ADOPTING
HOUSING AND SMALL BUSINESSES
CREATING A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
WILL CREATE JOBS, HOUSING,
TRANSPORTATION AND ITS --
ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE WHOLE
CITY. THE COMMUNITY PROVIDE SAFE
SPACES FOR RESIDENTS AND
DESERVES TO ENJOY . IN A BROADER
SENSE, THE STADIUM DISTRICT WILL
PROVIDE A TRANSITION ZONE IN
DOWNTOWN TO INDUSTRIAL LAND THAT
IS COMPLEMENTARY TO ITS
NEIGHBORS, THE CID, PIONEER
SQUARE AND COMMUNITIES. THIS
DEBATE HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 14
YEARS AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN MUCH
CHANGE IN THE PROPERTY. APPROVE
THE BILL, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, NEXT WE WILL HAVE
PUBLIC COMMENT OR NUMBER 6.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCILMEMBERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. I AM
GRATEFUL FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO
SEATTLE AND SMALL BUSINESSES
LIKE MINE. MY NAME IS JENNIFER
PORTER AND WE MANUFACTURE SCHOOL
UNIFORMS AND OFFER CONTRACTS
SEWING SERVICES IN WALLINGFORD .
I AM HERE AS A MEMBER OF SEATTLE
MADE TO SUPPORT COUNCIL BILL
120933 . I STARTED MY BUSINESS
IN 2007 MANUFACTURING
CHILDREN'S WHERE IN SEATTLE AND
I AM PROUD TO SHARE I'VE BEEN
ABLE TO DO SO OVER THESE MANY
YEARS. MY LONGEVITY OWES MUCH TO
THE MAKER COMMUNITY IN THE CITY.
WE CREATED -- CREATIVITY AND
HARD WORK HAS BEEN PART OF EVERY
STEP. I AM HOPEFUL ABOUT THE
MAKER COMMUNITY 'S FUTURE IN
SEATTLE . GUARANTEEING THE
BUSINESS HELP WITH MAKERS IN
SEATTLE IS A WISE INVESTMENT IN
LOCAL BUSINESS IN OUR ECONOMY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION
TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCILMEMBER,
MY NAME IS HELENE HETHERINGTON
AND I AM LOCAL RULE 242 AND I
RISE IN SUPPORT OF COUNCIL BILL
20933 . IN ADDITION TO THE
LIVING WAGE THIS WOULD CREATE ,
WE HAVE A STRONG COALITION AND
YOU HEARD SOME OF THEM HERE
TODAY . COMMUNITY SUPPORT, SMALL
BUSINESS MAKERS AND TRADE UNIONS
AMONG THE PUBLIC FACILITIES
STADIUM DISTRICT . A COUPLE OF
THINGS TO BE INSURED IN THIS
THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT A
LITTLE BIT IS THE AMOUNT OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 500 UNITS OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THIS
WILL PROVIDE IS ONE SIXTH AND WE
JUST WENT TO SEATTLE VOTERS LAST
NOVEMBER AND ASKED THEM TO
APPROVE $1 BILLION IN AFFORDABLE
HOUSING . THIS PRIVATELY FUNDED
WOULD PRODUCE ONE SIXTH OF WHAT
THAT WOULD DO AMONG OTHER
THINGS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING . MY NAME IS
NICOLE GRANT AND I YOU SHE AND
HER PRONOUNS. I'M A JOURNEYMAN
ELECTRICIAN AND A MEMBER OF IBD
1146. WE ARE PROUD TO STAND WITH
THE COALITION OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING ADVOCATES, MAKERS, SMALL
BUSINESS PEOPLES AND COMMUNITIES
LIKE PIONEER SQUARE AND
CHINATOWN INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT
. WE HAVE OUR OWN REASONS AS
ELECTRICIANS FOR SUPPORTING THIS
LEGISLATION . THE TRUTH IS WE
HAVE OVER 1000 MEMBERS OF OUR
UNION WHO HAVE BEEN OUT OF WORK
FOR OVER ONE YEAR . FOR US ,
UNION BUILT AFFORDABLE HOUSING
IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY WAYS WE
SEE PEOPLE GETTING BACK TO WORK
. IMAGINE WHAT THAT IS LIKE FOR
A FAMILY TO NOT HAVE A WAGE FOR
THEIR FAMILY . I KNOW YOU CAN
PICTURE WHAT IT IS LIKE. PLEASE
PUT US BACK TO WORK.
>> WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT OR
NUMBER NINE AND FOLLOWING THAT,
NUMBER 10.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCILMEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ANDERSON WAS SEATTLE
BUILDING TRADES REPRESENTING
ABOUT 25,000 CONSTRUCTION
WORKERS IN KING COUNTY AND I
WANT TO SUPPORT THE MAKER'S
DISTRICT WITH WHAT IT IS AND
WHAT IT IS. IT WILL MAKE JOB AND
HELP MAKERS TO CREATE
GENERATIONAL WEALTH. HERE IS
WHAT THE FACTS SAY IT WILL NOT.
THEY SAY WILL NOT IMPACT FREIGHT
AND DIS IS CLEAR . I ALSO
REPRESENT 200 PORT WORKERS WHO
DO MAINTENANCE ON THE PORT. THIS
IDEA WE ARE CREATING WORK IN A
VACUUM FOR THE BUILDING TRADES
IS NOT TRUE. I WOULD NOT STAND
HERE WORK REPRESENTING THE
WORKERS IF I THOUGHT IT WOULD
HARM THEM OR THEIR ABILITY TO
PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES. I AM
PART OF A BROAD COALITION .
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME . I ALSO WANT TO SAY I
SUPPORT THE PAINTERS UNION AND
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BUG ON YOUR
SIGN, YOU ARE HOLDING A NONUNION
SIGN.
>> THANK YOU .
>> COUNCILMEMBERS , I AM AN
EXPORTER FOR MOSES LAKE
WASHINGTON AND I'M WITH THE HAY
GROWERS COALITION AND REPRESENT
TRANSPORTATION AS WELL. WE ARE
IN OPPOSITION OF THIS MOVEMENT.
WE REPRESENT OVER 50,000
AGRICULTURAL EMPLOYEES IN THE
HAY AND FORAGE . IT IS THE
LARGEST CONTAINER EXPORTER UP
THE WEST COAST. MORE THAN 50%
GOES TO THE PORT OF SEATTLE AND
A CHANGE LIKE THIS WOULD DESTROY
JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR US.
WE WERE SO EXCITED WHEN TERMINAL
5 MODERATE HIS NATION WAS
COMPLETED WITH SEVERAL HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS INTO THAT
TERMINAL . WE RESPONDED WITH
HEAVY INVESTMENTS ON AGRICULTURE
IN THE SIDE OF THE STATE AND
THIS WOULD DERAIL A HUGE PORTION
. MAKE NO MISTAKE WE CAN COMPETE
ON A GLOBAL SCALE AND WE WILL
LOSE BUSINESS TO MANY COUNTRIES
AND RESPECTFULLY WE STAND IN
OPPOSITION. [ APPLAUSE ].
>> HELLO CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND
EVERYBODY ELSE THAT IS HERE. MY
NAME IS DEBORAH PANNA MARON I'M
A LONG VETERAN OF THE INDUSTRY
HERE IN SEATTLE. AFTER RETIRING
FROM MY ROLE IN PRODUCTION AND
TECHNICAL MANAGEMENT, I TAUGHT
VOCATIONAL CLASSES FOCUSED ON
MANUFACTURING IN THIS SECTOR . I
DEVELOPED RELATIONSHIPS WITH A
NUMBER OF COMPANIES IN THE
STADIUM DISTRICT WHO HAVE, OVER
THE YEARS, OFFER TO HIRE
GRADUATES FROM THE PROGRAMS I
TAUGHT . THEIR GRADUATES
GENERALLY DECLINED JOBS BECAUSE
THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN
THE CITY OR PAY FOR
TRANSPORTATION OR PARKING . SO,
COMPANIES LIKE OUTDOOR RESEARCH
WHICH IS IN THE AREA WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT, MOVED OUT SO THEY
COULD ATTRACT WORKERS IN CANTON
AND AND TUKWILA AND OTHER
LOWER-COST AREAS . SO, I AM
PROMOTING THIS BECAUSE I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE STAY IN THE
CITY TO WORK. ONE LAST PLUG IS
THAT THE MAKERS MOVEMENT AS PART
OF THE FREE COMMERCE MOVEMENT
AND SEATTLE IS VERY MUCH A PART
OF THAT.
>> PUBLIC COMMENTERS, 12, 13,
14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, AND 20,
COME ON DOWN .
>> I AM SARAH ADAMS WITH THE
BUSINESS DEBT WORK AS HOME TO
SEATTLE MADE AND I AM HERE TO
SUPPORT THE STADIUM DISTRICT.
SEATTLE MADE WAS IN RESPONSE TO
THE ACUTE NEED FOR MANUFACTURERS
AND PRODUCERS THAT STRUGGLE WITH
ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE MAINTENANCE
SPACE IN THIS HIGH-COST CITY
THAT IS NOT INTENTIONALLY
INVESTED IN THIS SECTOR ARE. THE
DISTRICT IS AN IMPORTANT STEP
TOWARDS MAKING THAT INVESTMENT
WHICH WILL NOT ONLY SUPPORT
INVESTMENT BUT WILL CONTRIBUTE
TO THE MULTIPLIER EFFECT WHERE
EACH DOLLAR WILL ADD SIGNIFICANT
RETURN BY CREATING JOBS AND
STIMULATE DEMAND AND LEAD TO
FURTHER INVESTMENT . I WOULD
LIKE TO STATE WE WOULD NOT
SUPPORT THIS IF WE THOUGHT IT
WOULD CAUSE MORE DROPS THAN IT
CREATES. AND WE ASKED TO TABLE
THIS FOR THERE IS A LOOK AT
TRAFFIC AND OTHER THINGS.
>> THANK YOU .
>> NOT NEXT WE WILL HAVE NUMBER
13 .
>> HI , MY NAME IS NAJI AND I'M
A FAMILY RUN BUSINESS AND WE
SUPPLY BAKED GOODS TO HOTELS
THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN SEATTLE.
CURRENTLY, MY KITCHEN IS IN
EVERETT AND THE COMMUTE HAS BEEN
DRASTIC TO EVEN DO FIELD
RESEARCH IN SEATTLE. A LOT OF
BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING
SINCE COVID AND IT IS A TO US .
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO
REVITALIZE BUT WE HAVE TO BE
MINDFUL, AS WELL IS IT TAKES A
LOT AND WE ARE HOLDING EVERYONE
ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE OUR
BUSINESSES DO SUCCEED IN THE
NEAR FUTURE . SO, I WANTED
EVERYONE TO BE THANKFUL FOR THE
PROGRAMS WE HAVE SUCH AS SEATTLE
MADE AND SEATTLE RESTORE THAT
LOOKOUT FOR WHOLESALE BUSINESSES
AS WELL AS RETAIL BUSINESSES .
SO, COMING TOGETHER AS A
COLLECTIVE AND HOW WE FEEL IN
OUR THOUGHTS . WE KEEP OUR
BUSINESSES LOOKING OUT FOR ONE
ANOTHER.
>> THANK YOU . NUMBER 14.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS BRENDAN
BLOOM AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE
OF WORKING AS A SECURITY
PROFESSIONAL HERE IN SEATTLE. I
STAND HERE TODAY ALONG WITH MY
UNION IN SUPPORT OF THE MAKERS
DISTRICT FOR JOB OPPORTUNITIES
AND PUBLIC SAFETY . CURRENTLY
THE AREA NEAR THE STADIUM IS
UNDERUTILIZED AND BUSINESSES ARE
RUN DOWN AND THERE IS AN
INCREASE SECURITY CONCERN. DARK
ALLEYS AND VACANT BUILDINGS AND
LACK OF FOOT TRAFFIC THAT
INVITES CRIME RATHER THAN
COMMERCE. THE BUSINESS ACTIVITY
MEANS MORE JOBS NOT ONLY FOR
ENTREPRENEURS BUT FOR SECURITY
PROFESSIONALS, MAINTENANCE
WORKERS, HOSPITALITY , STAFF AND
OTHER WORKERS. SEATTLE HAS BEEN
A CITY OF INNOVATION AND
CRAFTSMANSHIP AN OPPORTUNITY.
THE MAKER'S DISTRICT WILL TURN
THE AREA INTO ONE OF CREATIVITY
AND COMMERCE. ONE OF THAT IS
SAFE AND HEALTHY AND
ECONOMICALLY BENEFICIAL . THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU .
>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE , I AM
SAM HAMM WITH THE SHEET METAL
WORKERS AND THE SEATTLE TRADE
COUNCIL AND I'M THANKFUL TO BE
HERE THIS MORNING. I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
AFFORDABILITY PIECES. SEATTLE IS
IN NEED AND IN PARTICULAR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IN 2023,
$970 MILLION PROVIDING 3100 NEW
HOMES WITH HOME OWNERSHIP OVER A
SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD . THAT IS
APPROXIMATELY 443 UNITS PER YEAR
AT $313,000 PER HOME. THE
STADIUM MAKERS DISTRICT PROPOSAL
WILL PROVIDE 500 HOMES AT NO
PUBLIC COST. OKAY ? THESE ARE IN
ADDITION TO PUBLIC PLANS.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS REQUIRED
AS PART OF THE HOUSING ZONE AND
50% OF ALL HOUSING PLAN FOR THE
DISTRICT WILL BE AFFORDABLE FOR
HOUSES BETWEEN 60 AND 75 YEARS.
LET'S GET TO WORK. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING , MY NAME IS
TRINA JOPPA FROM LOCAL 46 AND I
REPRESENT THE LIMIT ENERGY
ELECTRICIANS. I'M HERE TO TELL
YOU WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE
WHERE WE WORK AND IT'S A
STRUGGLE FOR ALL UNION MEMBERS.
IT HITS HOME QUITE FREQUENTLY.
SO, IN ORDER FOR US TO STAY COME
EDIT EVENT TO COMMUTE AND TRAIN
WITH APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, WE
NEED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER A PLACE
WHERE THEY CAN LIVE AND SUPPORT
THEIR FAMILIES. AS WE MOVE
FORWARD, I HOPE WE CAN WORK
TOGETHER TO GET THIS PUSHED
THROUGH. NOT ONLY WILL IT HELP
THE MAKERS BUT IT WILL HELP OUR
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.
>> HI, I AM JAMIE FLEMING WITH
TEAMSTERS 174 AND WE ARE
SPEAKING AGAINST THIS. WITH MY
BROTHERS AND SISTERS AT THE
LONGSHORE , THEY TALK ABOUT HOW
THIS IS NOT CREATING JOBS BUT
SHIFTING JOBS FROM ONE UNION TO
ANOTHER. I THINK MORE SO AS A
HUMAN BEING, I AM AGAINST THE
IDEA OF BASICALLY JAMMING ONTO
THE LANDFILL . THIS PIECE OF
LAND COULD NOT BE MORE POLLUTED.
IT'S A LIQUEFACTION ZONE AND
THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY WAS
JAMMED THROUGH A RECORD SPEED.
THERE IS NO WAY THIS HOUSING
WILL BE AFFORDABLE . I THINK
EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS IN
FAVOR OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF
WRAPPING PAPER THEY HAVE WRAPPED
AROUND A POOR IDEA THAT HAS NOT
BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH. THERE IS A
MAJOR FREIGHT CORRIDOR THROUGH
THIS AREA. NOW WE ARE GOING TO
PUT KIDS IN A PLACE WHERE THEY
WILL GET HIT BY A TRUCK . OUR
MEMBERS DON'T WANT TO HIT
ANYBODY WITH TRUCKS, OBVIOUSLY.
I THINK ANYBODY IN THIS AREA,
GENERALLY, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE
BUILDING ON THE LANDFILL, THANK
YOU.
>> [ APPLAUSE ].
>> OKAY, PEOPLE, I AM TRYING TO
APPLY THE RULE OF NO CLAPPING IN
BETWEEN FOR EITHER SIDE SO
PLEASE BE RESPECT FULL .
>> GO AHEAD .
>> THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST
ROUND OF 20 AND WE WILL MOVE TO
THE VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENTS. AS
A REMINDER, EACH SPEAKER WILL
HAVE ONE MINUTE WITH A 10 SECOND
WARNING TO WRAP UP . SPEAKER
MICROPHONES WILL BE MUTED AT THE
END OF THE ALLOTTED TIME AND
ONLY THE PUBLIC REGARDING
COUNCIL BILL 120933 IS BEING
ACCEPTED . MY APOLOGIES, I GOT
TOO EXCITED. GOING BACK TO
NUMBER 17 .
>> THERE ARE 20, GO ON.
>> HI, MY NAME IS CHRISTINE
BENNETT AND I MAKE CLOTHING AND
ACCESSORIES IN SEATTLE USING
EXCLUSAMERICAN WILL . I AM
HERE AS A MEMBER OF SEATTLE MADE
TO ASKED THAT COUNCIL TO SUPPORT
BILL 120933. I CURRENTLY
MANUFACTURE AND MY HOME STUDIO
BECAUSE MANUFACTURING IN THE
CITY IS TOO EXPENSIVE . WE NEED
MORE AFFORDABLE MAKER SPACES TO
ALLOW BUSINESSES LIKE MINE TO
STAY HERE AND THRIVE. THANK YOU.
>> MY NAME IS BRANDON BRENT AND
I AM A MANAGER AT SSA MARINE .
SSA MARINE IS A LEADING
INDEPENDENT MARINE OPERATOR WITH
250 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE
WORLD . WE ARE PROUD TO BE
HEADQUARTERED IN SEATTLE AND WE
HAVE A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO
THE PORT OF SEATTLE. WE'VE BEEN
OPERATING DECADES. TODAY, WE AND
OUR PARTNERS AT MANAGE
OPERATIONS AND TERMINALS 5, 18
AND 91. WE WANT TO EXPRESS
CONCERNS REGARDING COUNCIL BILL
120933. THE WORKING WATERFRONT
IS ECONOMIC BACK BONE OF THE
CITY OF SEATTLE. THE MARITIME
INDUSTRY IS FOUNDATIONAL TO THE
STATE'S STATUS AS A GLOBAL
INDUSTRY LEADER. WE MUST NOT
SACRIFICE FREIGHT MOBILITY AND
PRECIOUS LAND NEAR THE DEEPWATER
SEABOARD . THESE ARE UNIQUE AND
IRREPLACEABLE . THANK YOU.
>> MY APOLOGIES FOR THE
REMAINING PUBLIC COMMENTERS FOR
THE FIRST ROUND . NOW, WE WILL
GO TO THE VIRTUAL PUBLIC
COMMENTERS . AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER, SPEAKERS ARE CALLED IN
THE ORDER REGISTERED. THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD APPLIES TO THIS
PUBLIC HEARING. EACH SPEAKER
WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE AND A 10
SECOND WARNING TO WRAP UP .
MICROPHONES WILL BE MUTED AT
THAT TIME. ONLY PUBLIC COMMENTS
RELATED TO COUNCIL BILL 120933
WILL BE ACCEPTED AT THIS PUBLIC
HEARING. THE FIRST REMOTE
COMMENTOR THAT WE HAVE WILL BE
JOSHUA CURTIS. PLEASE UNMUTE
YOURSELF, JOSHUA .
>> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
WASHINGTON STATE BALLPARK
FACILITY . TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO
ADDRESS CONCERNS REGARDING
LIQUEFACTION. THIS WAS AN ISSUE
ADDRESSED AND HAS BEEN ADDRESSED
IN THE BUILDING CODE FOR MANY
YEARS. OUR OWN BALLPARK, WHICH
COVERS 20 ACRES OF THE
LIQUEFACTION ZONE AND SEES
ALMOST 50,000 FANS. HOME PLATE
CENTER, THE OFFICE COMPLEX
ACROSS THE STREET COMPLETED IN
2012 IS THE SAME. ANY NEW
BUILDINGS IN THE AREA WHETHER
CURRENT OR NEW RESIDENTIAL WOULD
BE CONSTRUCTED WITH UP-TO-DATE
STANDARDS DESIGNED TO MITIGATE
DANGEROUS LIQUEFACTION . INDEED,
THE OLDER DERELICT BUILDINGS IN
THE AREA ARE NOT ILL TO THESE
STANDARDS AND IT IS AN ISSUE .
NEW STRUCTURES LESSEN THE
DANGERS OF A LIQUID FASHION
EVENT IN OUR AREA DUE TO
UNSTABLE TO SOIL . THIS IS A RED
HERRING .
>> JUST A REMINDER FOLKS WHEN
YOU HEAR THE 10 SECOND CHIME IS
TIME TO WRAP IT UP. NEXT WE HAVE
CHRIS MAR. PLEASE PRESSTAR AND
6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> GOOD MORNING CHRIS .
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> --
>> WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. TRY
AGAIN.
>> YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> WE CANNOT HEAR YOU VERY WELL
. WE WILL GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER
AND COME BACK TO YOU IF YOU
COULD GET TO A DIFFERENT
MICROPHONE .
>> THE NEXT COMMENTOR IS DAVID
HAYNES, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> LOCATION INHALATION, WHAT
CAUSES CANCER ? SHUT DOWN THE
PORT DURING GAME TIME. COUNCIL
WANTS TO CHANGE THE TRUCK ROUTES
TO APPEASE THE SEATTLE SELLOUTS
WHO DON'T WANT PEOPLE MOVING
INTO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE AREAS
WHILE DOING THE BIDDING OF A
BILLIONAIRE DONOR SELLING OUT
FOR REELECTION SUPPORT FROM
UNQUALIFIED SLUM DEVELOPERS WHO
DON'T BUILD 21ST-CENTURY
QUALITY HOUSING . THE COUNCIL
AUDACIOUSLY CLAIMS THEY WILL
MAKE IT SAFE FOR THE SEAHAWKS BY
SACRIFICING INNOCENT PEOPLE LIKE
SACRIFICIAL LAMBS WHO WILL BE
LIVING AMONG CRIMINALS ALL WHILE
WE HAVE A TOXIC INDUSTRIAL ZONE
THAT IS UNSUITABLE FOR
CAREGIVERS TO PROVIDE CARE
BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL SUFFER FROM
THE LACK OF FRESH AIR. ONLY ONE
MINUTE FOR THIS, THIS IS MORE
IMPORTANT THAN ONE MINUTE AND I
KNOW THE COUNCIL HAS MORE
IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO BUT THIS
IS REVOLTING.
>> THANK YOU DAVID.
>> TRY THE PERSON THAT CAME
BEFORE.
>> CHRIS MAR ?
>> WE ARE GOING TO TRY AGAIN .
>> YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW ?
>> YES, WE CAN .
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> I AM THE CHAIR OF THE
FACILITY THAT OVERSEES T-MOBILE
PARK WITH THE MANY BENEFITS OF
SEATTLE . LAST YEAR WE SHARED
THE DISAPPOINTMENT THAT THE
MARITIME AND INDUSTRIAL PACKAGE
ONLY HAD A LIMITED NUMBER OF
HOUSING UNITS DESPITE THE
DIRECTOR'S HOUSING REPORT
CONCLUSION IT WOULD NOT
NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PORT OF
SEATTLE AND INDUSTRIAL
NEIGHBORS. WITH THE ADOPTION OF
THIS REVISION BY COUNCILMEMBER
NELSON , THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY
TO CORRECT THIS AND EMBRACE A
MORE VIBRANT STADIUM DISTRICT
WITH JOBS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING
. PLEASE JOIN 170,000 UNION
WORKERS AND THOSE WITH
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS IN
SUPPORTING THIS. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH .
>> THANK YOU . NEXT WE WILL HAVE
PETER HIRSCH WRAP AND .
>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS
PETER'S RAPINE AND I AM THE
VICE PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN
WATERWAYS. IT IS WITH THE
TUGBOAT AND ARE BARGE INDUSTRY.
THOUSANDS OF JOBS IN SEATTLE AND
AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE SEATTLE
SUPPLY CHAIN. YOU HAVE HEARD
FROM A NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES
TODAY WHO STAND WITH THE
COALITION . ONCE THE LANDS ARE
GONE, THEY ARE GONE FOREVER .
OUR COALITION IN A RECENT LETTER
AND A SIMPLE MANAGE -- MESSAGE
CONCLUDED THIS . IT IS THE
FUTURE OF THE MARITIME INDUSTRY
THRIVES AND TO LEADING GLOBAL
TRADE . THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
.
>> THANK YOU . NEXT WE WILL HAVE
JAMIE LEE.
>> PRESS STAR AND 6, JAMIE .
>> HELLO, I AM JAMIE LEE FROM
THE CHINATOWN RESIDENTIAL
AUTHORITY AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT
OF COUNCIL BILL 120933. THE USES
WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR PIONEER
SQUARE . WE NEED MORE HOUSING
AND INCLUDING THIS IN THE
STADIUM DISTRICT WILL BRING
ALMOST 500 NEW HOMES TO THE
AREA. THERE WILL BE SOCIAL AND
ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE AREA
INCLUDING BRINGING IN SMALL
BUSINESS AND NEW JOBS. IT WOULD
ENHANCE THE LIVABILITY OF
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS BUT
ALSO IMPROVE. PLEASE PASS
COUNCIL BILL 120933 FOR
APPROVAL. THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE
JEANNIE PER SET . PLEASE PRESS
STAR AND 6.
>> GOOD MEMBER -- GOOD MORNING
COUNCILMEMBERS. I AM JIMMY
DORSET WITH HUDSON PROPERTIES .
WE OWN AND MANAGE COMMERCIAL
OFFICE SPACE IN DOWNTOWN SEATTLE
. 1 MILLION OF WHICH IS IN
PIONEER SQUARE. I AM IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF COUNCIL BILL 120933
TO ALLOW HOUSING HALF OF WHICH
MUST BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
THE STADIUM DISTRICT . THIS WILL
NOT ONLY ADDRESS THE HOUSING
CRISIS BUT WILL ADDRESS THE
ECONOMIC ENGINES FOR THE STADIUM
MAKERS . FOR BUSINESSES
PRIMARILY OWNED BY WOMEN AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS OF MEANS
FOR CREATIVE WEALTH AND A
RICHNESS AND VIBRANCY TO OUR
CITY'S CULTURE. I WOULD
APPRECIATE A YES VOTE BY YOU ON
COUNCIL BILL 120933, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU . NEXT WE HAVEMULA
>> GOOD MORNING. I AM PATIENTS
MULATTA AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT CONSORTIUM. I
TESTIFY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
PROPOSAL. THE MAJORS DISTRICT IS
A ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY
TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF OUR
REGION FOR GENERATIONS TO COME .
THIS PROPOSAL IS FORWARD
THINKING AND IT IS INCLUSIVE IN
TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT AND
BALANCING THE NEEDS OF INDUSTRY
, SMALL BUSINESSES, AND HOUSING.
THERE ARE UNDERUTILIZED
WAREHOUSES AND IT COULD BE A
VIBRANT MIXED-USE AREA THAT
WOULD BE USED YEAR-ROUND . WE
ARE IN URGENT NEED FOR MORE
HOUSING, ESPECIALLY AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND WE ASK YOU TO HOLD
ONTO THE INNOVATION THAT WE HAVE
ALWAYS HELD ONTO IS A CITY.
PLEASE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS
PROPOSAL .
>> NEXT WE GO TO ANDREA . PLEASE
PRESS STAR AND SIX TO UNMUTE
YOURSELF .
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
ANDREA SOTO AND I AM A MEMBER OF
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE
BASEBALL STADIUM TSB AND PAST
PRESIDENT OF THE HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT CONSORTIUM AND I
WOULD LIKE TO SUPPRESS STRONG
SUPPORT FOR COUNCIL BILL 120933
. THE BOARD HAS BEEN WORKING
HARD MANY YEARS TO ENHANCE THE
AREA AROUND THE BALLPARK AS A
VIBRANT AND DESIRABLE
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CAN COEXIST
WITH EXISTING MARITIME AND
INDUSTRIAL USES . HOUSING IS THE
ENGINE OF REVITALIZATION ,
ECONOMIC DIVERSITY AND VIBRANCY
. IN SEATTLE, WE HAVE AN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AND
THE MAKE IS DISTRICT REPRESENTS
A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD
TRULY MIXED-USE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING WITHOUT USING OUR
PRECIOUS PUBLIC DOLLARS . THIS
IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT CANNOT BE
MISSED, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU . AND THE LAST ROW
MONT REMOTE COMMENTOR WILL BE
JERROD ENGLAND, GO AHEAD .
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
JERROD ENGLAND I'M CALL IT FROM
THE AREA REPRESENTING 100 SMALL
FARMERS WITH THE COOPERATIVE. WE
OPPOSE COUNCIL BILL 120933. IN
WASHINGTON STATE WE PRODUCE SOME
OF THE BEST APPLES AND THE
MAJORITY OF OUR CROP IS
TRANSPORTED TO ASIAN MARKETS .
THE TRANSPORTATION ROUTES ARE
CRITICAL FOR MOVEMENT TO THESE
MARKETS. IN TALKING TO THE TRUCK
DRIVERS WHO MOVE OUR FRUIT THE
LONG DISTANCE AND MOUNTAIN
PASSES TAKE LESS TIME THAN THE
SHORTER DISTANCES DUE TO HIGH
CONGESTION . PROTECTING
INDUSTRIAL LANDS FOR INDUSTRIAL
USES IS CRITICAL TO ONGOING USE
AND WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL, THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT , NOW WE WILL GO
BACK TO THE REMAINING IN-PERSON
PUBLIC COMMENTERS. WE WILL START
WITH NUMBER 21 AND GO ON TO 30.
THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, I AM STEVE
CRANE AND A SEATTLE BASED
ENTREPRENEUR AND I STRONGLY SUB
COURT COUNCIL BILL 120933. MY
COMPANY IS THE PEEP SHELL AND
BEFORE YOU GET TOO EXCITED, I
MAKE VIDEO BIRDHOUSES SO YOU CAN
WATCH BIRDS FROM YOUR SMART
PHONE . ONE YEAR AGO THIS VERY
WEEK, I MADE IT TO SHARK TANK
WITH MY BIRDHOUSES. OVER 30
BUSINESSES APPLIED TO BE ON THE
SHOW THAT YEAR AND MINE WAS ONE
OF THEM. IT TOOK 18 MONTHS AND
SIX AUDITIONS TO BRING MY
COMPANY TO THE NATIONAL STAGE?
YOU KNOW WHAT THE MOST DIFFICULT
PART OF THE PROCESS WAS? IT
WASN'T FACING MR. WONDERFUL, IT
WAS STARTING MANUFACTURING HERE
IN SEATTLE. I AM HERE TO SAY OF
VOTE SUPPORTING THE MATRIX --
MAKERS DISTRICT FOR SMALL-SCALE
MANUFACTURING LIKE MINE IN
SEATTLE. A VOTE AGAINST IS A
VOTE AGAINST INNOCENT BABY BIRDS
EVERYWHERE. THANK YOU.
>> HELLO AND GOOD MORNING . MY
NAME IS JOE PATTERSON . I'M
JUST CURIOUS IF ANYONE ELSE IN
THIS ROOM OWNS A BREWERY? NO ?
ONLY YOU ? OF BREWERY IS A NAMED
INDUSTRY IN THIS NEW MAKERS
DISTRICT . YOU ARE NOT A
DEVELOPER , YOU ARE A CUSTODIAN
OF A PUBLIC ART -- PORT . PLEASE
DON'T JEOPARDIZE THIS TO ENRICH
YOURSELF AND VOTE THIS DOWN ,
THANK YOU.
>> [ APPLAUSE ].
>> GOOD EVENING -- SORRY, GOOD
MORNING COUNCILMEMBERS . MY NAME
IS NICK STEAD AND I AM A PROUD
MEMBER OF THE WORKERS SUPPORTING
THEIR FAMILIES. I REPRESENT THE
FARMERS OF EASTERN WASHINGTON
AND THE STEELWORKERS OF EAST
SEATTLE WHO DEPEND ON DEEPWATER
PORTS TO SHIP THEIR GOODS. WE
LOVE AND RESPECT OUR BROTHERS
AND SISTERS IN THE BUILDING
TRADES. THE STADIUM DISTRICT IS
THE WRONG PLACE TO BUILD
AFFORDABLE HOUSING . TRAFFIC IS
BAD IN THIS AREA AND IT WILL
MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR FREIGHT.
IT'S ALREADY IMPASSABLE FOR
FREIGHT WHEN GAMES ARE GOING ON.
THE IDEA THAT ADDING MORE
HOUSING AND PEOPLE TO AN ALREADY
BUSY AREA IS GOING TO MAKE THIS
AREA SAFER IS RIDICULOUS . LOCAL
CITY GOVERNMENT HAS APPROVED TWO
LOCATIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
IN SEATTLE INCLUDING GEORGETOWN.
HOW WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT
BUILDING THEIR ? I WILL TELL YOU
WHY. IT'S BECAUSE CHRIS HANSEN
DOESN'T OWN THOSE . IT'S ALL
ABOUT A WEALTHY BILLIONAIRE AND
MAKING HIM MONEY.
>> [ APPLAUSE ] .
>> THANK YOU, SIR, THANK YOU.
>> HI, MY NAME IS SARAH AND I'M
A SEATTLE LONGSHOREMAN AND I'M
AGAINST THIS BUT POSTAL . TENS
OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS RELY ON
EFFICIENT OPERATIONS INCLUDING
AGRICULTURAL PARTNERS. THE PORT
SUPPORTS 7000 DIRECT JOBS ON OUR
WATERFRONT. THESE JOBS PROVIDE
GENERATIONAL PAY EQUITY FOR
WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR . AS
WE LOOK AT SECURING A NEW
CUSTOMER FOR TERMINAL 46, WE
NEED TO ENSURE INDUSTRY AND
HOUSING IS CONTRARY TO THE
POINT. THIS CITY IS RATED LOWEST
ON THE ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY. .
THERE ARE NO SCHOOLS, GREEN
SPACES, HOUSES OF WORSHIP OR
OTHER AMENITIES FOUND IN A
NEIGHBORHOOD . NO NOISE LEVELS
EXCEED CITY AND STATE
REGULATIONS. SINCE THIS IS BUILT
ON THE PHIL, MATERIAL THAT WAS
FILLED IN 100 YEARS AGO TO
SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY. IT IS
LIQUEFACTION THAT WOULD PLACE
PEOPLE IN HARMS WAY IF THERE'S
A NATURAL DISASTER . THIS
UTILIZES FREIGHT MOBILITY AND
THESE INDUSTRIAL LANDS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> [ APPLAUSE ].
>> HELLO, I AM JOHN HICKS FELTER
AND I'VE LIVED IN TOWN LONGER
THAN I'VE BEEN A LONGSHOREMAN
SINCE 2011. WITH VACANT SPACE,
THEIR BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN AND YOU
CAN GET JOBS REVITALIZING THAT
AND REVITALIZE AWAY FROM TRUCKS
AND TRAINS . SEATTLE LONGSHORE
WORKERS HAVE BEEN WORKING THE
WATERFRONTS AND WE HAVE BANNERS
IN OUR HALL BACK FROM WHEN WE
WERE RIGORS AS WELL AS LONGSHORE
AND STEVE ADORES. WE WANT TO
WORK THOSE JOBS ANOTHER CENTURY
BUT IF THE TERMINAL IS GONE,
THOSE JOBS WILL NEVER COME BACK.
>> [ APPLAUSE ].
>> THINK YOU NUMBER 26 .
>> GOOD MORNING , I'M THE CHIEF
OPERATIONS OFFICER WITH NOR
SEAPORT ALLIANCE. THE SEAPORT
ALLIANCE SUPPORTS HUNDREDS OF
JOBS THROUGH THE STATE . THERE
IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
AMOUNT OF CARGO THROUGH THE
GATEWAY AND THE PEOPLE WE EMPLOY
THROUGH THIS ACT TIVOLI . WE
FEEL A RESPONSIBILITY TO
PRESERVE AND GROW CARGO VOLUMES
IN SEATTLE . REOPENING
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOUSING MAKE
SECURING BUSINESS MORE DIFFICULT
. WE NEED SECURITY ON THE
WATERFRONT AND PUTTING HOUSING
ACROSS FROM THE MARINE TERMINALS
JEOPARDIZES CARGO MOVEMENT AND
THE JOBS . THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, NUMBER 27 PULLED
THEIR NAME FROM THE PUBLIC
HEARING AND WE WILL GO TO NUMBER
28, PLEASE.
>> HELLO , MY NAME IS NATHAN AND
I AM WITH THE ILWU LOCAL 19. WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT A SOLUTION
ABOUT HOUSING. WITH HOUSING
DOWNTOWN , WHAT'S IT GOING TO
COST ? PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD
HOUSING RIGHT NOW . THE PROBLEM
WITH HOUSING IS WE NEED TO LOWER
THE COST SO PEOPLE CAN GET INTO
HOUSING. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN
POOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU
CAN GET INTO HOUSING. WHAT ABOUT
JOBS . THE PORT ALLOWS US TO
HAVE JOBS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR
FAMILIES. MEDICAL AND THIS AND
THAT. THIS SITUATION, YOU ARE
BLOWING IT UP. LET'S FIX
DOWNTOWN FIRST BEFORE WE ADD ON
MORE STUFF, YOU KNOW. LOOK AT
OUR FREIGHT WITH THE IMPORT AND
EXPORT . WE DON'T HAVE IT
COMING IN AND WE DON'T HAVE IT
GOING OUT . THE BOTTOM LINE OF
IT IS , I SUPPORT OUR UNION .
LET'S KEEP OUR WORKMEN GOING
AND STOP THE CHAOS WITH ALL THIS
HOUSING STUFF THAT WILL CAUSE
CRIME.
>> THANK YOU .
>> NEXT NUMBER 29 TO WRAP UP THE
NEXT 10 AND IT WILL BE NUMBER 30
AFTERWORDS .
>> AND WILL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
SPEAKING NEXT KIND OF LINEUP .
>> HELLO , MY NAME IS KALINA
BRUCE. WE ARE WITH THE CANDLE
BAR WE USE CANDLES TO BRING
PEOPLE TOGETHER WITH
STORYTELLING . I AM HERE AS A
MEMBER OF SEATTLE MADE TO ASK
THE COUNCIL CONSIDER COUNCIL
BILL 120933 WITH THE STADIUM
MAKER'S DISTRICT . WE STARTED
IN THE KITCHEN AND WORKS TO
BIGGER SPACE. FINDING AFFORDABLE
LOCATIONS IN SEATTLE HAS BEEN A
MAJOR CHALLENGE EVEN AS WE GROW
OUR BUSINESS. SEATTLE IS KNOWN
AS A HUB FOR INNOVATION AND
CREATIVITY BUT SMALL MAKERS LIKE
MYSELF ARE FINDING IT DIFFICULT
TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN SPACE.
THERE IS A LACK OF DEDICATED
MAKER SPACE , ESPECIALLY FOR
UNDERREPRESENTED ENTREPRENEURS
LIKE MYSELF WHO ARE FACING
CHALLENGES IN ACCESSING CAPITAL
. MANY OF US WANT TO EXPAND . IF
WE WANT THESE BUSINESSES TO STAY
IN OUR CITY, WE WOULD NEED REAL
INVESTMENT TO SUPPORT OUR WORK.
>> THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. MY NAME
IS AMBER RISON I AM HERE
REPRESENTING 50,000 WORKERS AND
FAMILIES AND A WIDE VARIETY OF
INDUSTRIES ACROSS WASHINGTON
STATE AND BEYOND . THE COST OF
AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING IN
SEATTLE IS AT A CRISIS AND
MEMBERS ARE AT A BREAKING POINT
. THIS COULD BE PART OF
CRITICALLY NEEDED SOLUTIONS TO
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE MAKERS
DISTRICT INCLUDING WORKFORCE
HOUSING WOULD BE A HUGE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY. THE
FACT THAT IT IS WITH AGREEMENTS
IS MORE COMPELLING . WE BELIEVE
WE CAN SUPPORT SEATTLE'S
TRADITIONAL AND IMPORTANT
MARITIME JOB BASE WHILE
INCORPORATING THIS VIBRANT
MAKERS DISTRICT . IT'S AN
EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO ADD
LIVING WAGE JOBS AND PROVIDE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM FOR THOSE
WHO ARE TYPICALLY FARTHEST FROM
THEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU . NEXT, WE GO FROM
31 TO 40. 31 WILL BE DENNIS
MARTINEZ.
>> GOOD MORNING HONORABLE
COUNCILMEMBERS. I STAND HERE
TODAY TO SPORT THE MAKERS
DISTRICT PROJECT. MY NAME IS
DENNIS MARTINEZ AND I'M A PROUD
46 YEAR RETIRED UNION MEMBER OF
THE PIPEFITTERS AND
STEAMFITTERS. I'M ALSO AN EIGHT
YEAR MEMBER OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION AND I SAY THIS TO
HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I
SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS
WILL INCREASE HOUSING IN OUR
AREA . WORKFORCE HOUSING IS AT
AN ALL-TIME LOW WITH PEOPLE
SPINNING 45 TO 60 MINUTES TO
COMMUTE IN SEATTLE WHICH CREATES
A LONGTIME STRESS WITH AN ADDED
COMMUTE. WE ATTENDED THE ALL
CONFERENCE LAST WEEK AND HEARD
THAT ALL CITIES MUST START
PUSHING FOR MORE WORKFORCE
HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE LEGISLATIVE BILL 1491 WITH
ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT WILL
INCREASE THE DENSITY
REGULARIZATION'S FOR THE
HOUSING. PLEASE SUPPORT THIS
BILL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU .
>> MY NAME IS LISA HOWARD AND I
AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR
THE ALLIANCE OF [ INDISCERNIBLE
] . I'M HERE TO SUPPORT COUNCIL
BILL 120933 FOR THE STADIUM --
MOORE NORTH OF T-MOBILE PART .
THE INITIATIVE REPRESENTS A
FORWARD THINKING APPRECIATION
FOR FORWARD THINKING WHILE
CREATING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR
SMALL-SCALE MANUFACTURERS,
ARTISANS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES.
THIS PROPOSAL IS WELL STUDIED
AND CAREFULLY BALANCED TO
COMPLEMENT INDUSTRIAL USES
RATHER THAN DETRACT FROM AND
DAMAGE THEM. WE CAN GENERATE
JOBS AND SUPPORT
ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND PROVIDE AN
EXTENSION OF THE HISTORIC
DISTRICT 'S THE CREATIVE
ECONOMY . AND WE CAN PROVIDE
HOUSING ALONG THE WAY. THANK
YOU.
>> I URGE YOU TO PASS COUNCIL
BILL 120933 AND URGE YOU TO
CREATE A PLACE IN SEATTLE WHERE
IN SPIRIT THRIVES.
>> NUMBER 33.
>> SUBSEQUENT PEOPLE IF YOU
COULD BE READY TO SPEAK RIGHT
AFTERWARDS .
>> MY NAME IS JOE DUGGER AND MY
MOTHER GRADUATED FROM THE HIGH
SCHOOL IN 1964 IN SEATTLE IS
HOME. I'M A 28 MEMBER OF THE
UNIT SUPPORTS OVER 6200 MEMBERS
. MANY OF THOSE, HUNDREDS, IN
FACT, WORK MAINTENANCE FOR
SEATTLE HERE AT THE WATERFRONT
AND UP AT THE AIRPORT . I AM
HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
COUNCIL BILL 120933 BECAUSE
IT'S A WIN FOR WORKERS LIKE ME
WHO POWER SEATTLE . THIS BILL
ENSURES FAIR WAGES, SAFE JOBS
AND WORK FOR SKILLED TRADES
PEOPLE. FOR DECADES, I'VE SEEN
THE UNION FIGHT FOR DIGNITY AND
RESPECT . PLEDGING ALLIANCE WITH
THAT LEGACY . WITH
APPRENTICESHIP FOR THE NEXT
GENERATION LIKE MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD
WHO I'M CURRENTLY RAISING .
SEATTLE THRIVES BECAUSE OF
WORKING INITIATIVES LIKE THIS .
PLEASE PASS THIS BILL TO KEEP
JOBS SECURE IN OUR COMMUNITY
STRONG. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING,
MY NAME IS RON MANN WILL AND
I'M IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO
COUNCIL BILL 120933. THE
ARGUMENTS I HAVE HEARD FOR
CHANGING THE ZONING ARE
NONSENSICAL . PUTTING HOUSING IN
AN AREA PRONE TO CRIME IN ORDER
TO STOP CRIME MAKES NO SENSE .
AT LAST MEETING THE COMMITTEE
SHOWED DISREGARD FOR THE
CITIZENS IN A MULTIYEAR PROCESS
THAT LED TO THE CURRENT ZONING .
THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL WANTS
TO CLEAN UP THE BLIGHT AND CRIME
IN THE AREA, JUST DIRECT THE
POLICE AND LAWMAKERS TO MAKE
CRIME ILLEGAL AGAIN. DIRECT THE
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ADDRESS
CRIME. THERE IS NO INTEREST IN
THE JOBS DESTROYED. CLOSING THE
STREETS IS THE GOAL IN GETTING
RID OF FREIGHT MOBILITY IS THE
GOAL. THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL
WANTS HOUSING TO BE AFFORDABLE ,
REMOVE THE IMPEDIMENTS TO BUILD
HOUSING. LOWER THE EXTREME
PROPERTY TAXES AND WORK WITH
LEGISLATURES TO REMOVE THE
BURDENS PLACED ON HOUSING.
>> [ APPLAUSE ].
>> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> ANDRA MEMBERS OF THE CITY
COUNCIL, I AM ANDREA CORNELIS .
I'M A MEMBER OF LOCAL 242 AND I
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE
PROPOSED MAKER'S DISTRICT . HAS
THE OF ABILITY TO TRANSFORM AN
UNDERUTILIZED AREA INTO A HUB
WITH HOUSING FOR THOSE IN NEED
AND CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
LOCAL ARTISANS AND
ENTREPRENEURS. THE MAKERS
DISTRICT WILL BRING ACTIVITY TO
THE AREA AND INCREASE FOOT
TRAFFIC AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
WHICH ARE PROVEN METHODS ARE
REDUCING CRIME AND IT WILL
ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY . WHEN AN
AREA IS THRIVING WITH BUSINESS
WORKSHOPS AND PUBLIC SPACES, IT
DISCOURAGES ILLICIT ACTIVITIES
AND WITH THIS INITIATIVE THE
CITY COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY
TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABLE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND INVEST IN SAFER
CITIES. I URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO
THE VOICES OF MANY AND I APPROVE
THE MAKERS DISTRICT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, NUMBER 36 AND IF
WE COULD GET 36, 37 AND ALL THE
WAY TO 40 IN-LINE AND THAT WAY
WE CAN KEEP GOING .
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS
AND FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS .
MY NAME IS CHELSEA AND I'M A
FOURTH-GENERATION LONGSHOREMAN .
I'M A PROUD MEMBER OF DISTRICT
1 AND I'M HERE AGAINST
DEVELOPING OUR DEVELOPING LANDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THE
FACT THE CITY WAS BUILT ON OUR
PORTS AND WATERWAYS AND IT WOULD
NOT BE THE CITY IT IS TODAY. OUR
JOBS HAVE PROVIDED FOR
INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH AND IT
HAS ALLOWED MY FAMILY TO GO TO
COLLEGE . I WAS THE FIRST MEMBER
OF MY FAMILY TO GO TO COLLEGE. I
BROUGHT MY IMMIGRANT GRANDFATHER
OUT OF WORKING IN THE COAL MINES
OF PENNSYLVANIA. THE IL W YOU --
ILWU SUPPORTS PEOPLE IN THE
TRAYS AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A
MAKERS MARKET SOMEWHERE IN
SEATTLE WHICH WOULD NOT IMPAIR
THE TRANSPORTATION ROUTES TO GET
TO I-90. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> NUMBER 37.
>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS
CHARLIE BAND DOCK AND I'M A
LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF
SEATTLE AND I'VE BEEN WORKING
AT THE DOCS AS A LONGSHOREMAN
ALMOST 20 YEARS . LET'S TALK
PLAINLY ABOUT WHAT THIS IS
REALLY ABOUT BECAUSE THIS IS A
PROBLEM NOT JUST HERE IN SEATTLE
BUT AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THE
WORLD. A BILLIONAIRE HEDGE FUND
MANAGER BOUGHT A BUNCH OF
PROPERTY THAT HAD CERTAIN ZONING
ATTACHED TO IT AND HE THINKS HE
CAN CHANGE THE RULES TO HIS
BENEFIT . HE THINKS HE CAN USE
HIS INFLUENCE WITH GOVERNMENT
ANOTHER LEAP -- LEADERS TO
CHANGE THE RULES FOR HIM. LET'S
TALK ABOUT THE JOBS HERE. SMITH
TOWER IS JUST A FEW BLOCKS AWAY
. BUILT IN 1914 . I DON'T THINK
THERE IS MANY CONSTRUCTION TRADE
JOBS THERE RIGHT NOW. THE PORT
OF SEATTLE WAS ESTABLISHED IN
1911 AND WE ARE STILL EMPLOYING
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN SERVING
THE ENTIRE UNION . THIS IS
SELFISH TO SAY WE DON'T WANT
HOUSING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND
WE WILL PUT IT DOWN HERE.
>> K , THIS IS THE LAST TIME
I'M GOING TO ASK WHAT APPEARS
TO BE ONE SIDE THAT KEEPS
CLAPPING AFTER THEIR SIDE IS
TALKING . LET'S BE FAIR AND
RESPECT THE RULES THAT ARE
ESTABLISHED SO WE CAN GO THROUGH
ALL OF THE MEMBERS.
>> GOOD MORNING . MY NAME IS
JOHN GARY AND I AM WITH ILWU
LABOR RELATIONS. I RISE IN
OPPOSITION TO COUNCIL BILL
120933 . AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE
SIGNS OUT HERE, WE HAD A DEAL.
WE ARE HERE TODAY AND THAT'S
APPARENTLY NOT THE CASE. WITH
THE PASSAGE OF THE MARITIME AND
INDUSTRIAL LANDS IN 2023 YET
HERE WE ARE AGAIN FIGHTING FOR
THE LIVELIHOOD OF WORKING-CLASS
JOBS AT THE WATERFRONT . YOU
HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY THE
SMELL OF A RICH BILLIONAIRE
LANDOWNER'S MONEY AND HIS
GREED. IF YOU VOTE THIS UP , I
AM MANY OTHERS WILL QUESTION
YOUR WORD, YOUR CHARACTER , AND
YOUR INTEGRITY. AS LONG AS THE
ILWU AND OTHER SIGNATORIES RISE
IN OPPOSITION . WE WILL NOT
STAND DOWN, THIS WILL ALWAYS BE
A WORKING WATERFRONT.
>> MY NAME IS WAYLON ROBERT,
I'M A MERCHANT SEAMAN AND A
RENTER IN DISTRICT 3 AND THE
POLITICAL DIRECTOR OF THE
SAILORS UNION PACIFIC . THE
SAILORS UNION OF THE PACIFIC HAS
BEEN ON THE SEATTLE WATERFRONT
SINCE 1885 . OUR INDUSTRY IS THE
MOST CONSISTENT SOURCE OF
REVENUE FOR OUR CITY FOR OVER
100 YEARS. OUR PORTS IS OVER
FOUR HOURS CLOSER TO THE WORLD
THAN TACOMA IS . WE CAN ALWAYS
HAVE THIS INDUSTRY IF WE PROTECT
IT . EVERY DAY WE HAVE ABOUT
9000 TRUCKS GOING THROUGH THIS
CORRIDOR . IF WE BUILD HOUSING,
THIS WILL COMPROMISE OUR ACCESS
TO THE DOCS. I ASKED THAT YOU
OPPOSE THIS BILL AND THAT MY
MEMBERS HAVE A FUTURE IN THE
CITY WITH CONTINUED ACCESS TO
OUR WATERFRONT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NUMBER 40 .
>> HI, MY NAME IS ANGIE WALKINS
AND I AM NEW AT TO MY CAREER AS
A LONGSHORE WORKER. I'M NEW TO
THIS CAREER BECAUSE I DECIDED I
NEEDED WHAT WOULD BE A FAMILY
WAGE JOB AND NOT A LIVING WAGE
JOB WHICH IS THE BARE MINIMUM. I
HAVE WORKED PART-TIME AT
BELLTOWN THREE YEARS . THE
REFERENCE TO BELLTOWN WAS MADE
IN THE LAST MEETING AS AN
EXAMPLE OF A DENSELY POPULATED
URBAN AREA WHERE THERE IS
HYPOTHETICALLY NOT A LOT OF
CRIME . WORKING IN BELLTOWN, I
CAN TELL YOU MORE DENSITY AND
POPULATION HASN'T , FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE WORKING DOWN THERE
EVERY DAY DOES NOT SEEM TO MAKE
A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE LACK OF
CRIME AND DISPARITY IN THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD. I BELIEVE THAT
DENSELY POPULATING PEOPLE INTO
ANOTHER AREA AS AN IDEA TO CLEAN
IT UP AND MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE
PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE IS SIMPLY
NOT TRUE FROM MY LIVED
EXPERIENCE. THANK YOU EVERYBODY
FOR COMING OUT AND LISTENING.
DON'T THROW AWAY LONG-TERM
FAMILY WAGE JOBS FOR SHORT TERM
LIVING WAGE JOBS .
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THERE ARE
TWO ADDITIONAL REMOTE
COMMENTERS, MAY WE GET BACK TO
THEM?
>> HOW MANY HAVE WE GONE
THROUGH, NOW?
>> THESE WERE TWO LATE SIGN
ON'S.
>> YES, THE LAST BATCH OF IN
PERSON, WE GONE THROUGH 20?
>> NO, THERE ARE TWO OR MORE --
REMOTE COMMENTERS .
>> LET'S TALK WITH THE 10
REMAINING IN THE IN THE REMOTE
CAN SPEAK AT THE END .
>> ALL RIGHT, IF NUMBERS 41
THROUGH 50 CAN COME DOWN AND
FORM A LINE. WE WILL START WITH
NUMBER 41. MY APOLOGIES, I
CANNOT PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME
.
>> TYRONE HARVEY , LONGSHOREMAN
ORIGINALLY FROM PITTSBURGH,
PENNSYLVANIA . I AM OPPOSED TO
THIS . THE BOTTOM LINE IS I
DON'T WANT SEATTLE TO LOOK LIKE
PITTSBURGH IN 1975 . WHEN WE
LOST STEEL AND OTHER DIFFERENT
MANUFACTURING , WHAT ENDED UP
HAPPENING WAS PARTS OF
PITTSBURGH BECAME A GHOST TOWN .
I AM 14 DAYS YOUNGER THAN MARK
CUBAN AND HE'S A BILLIONAIRE
AND HE'S NOT IN PITTSBURGH
TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS AND
DESTROY THINGS. ONCE AGAIN , I
OPPOSE THIS AND I HOPE SEATTLE
CAN MAINTAIN SOME SORT OF
SEMBLANCE BECAUSE I SAW IT AS A
YOUNG CHILD IN PITTSBURGH,
PENNSYLVANIA WHAT WOULD COME
HERE.
>> THANK YOU . NUMBER 42.
>> HI, MY NAME IS AARON McKAY
AND I WORKED AT THE PORT 20
YEARS . MY DAD WORKED TO THE
PORT UNTIL HIS DEATH. DOES
BUILDING THESE BUILDINGS OFFER
THAT ? THOUSANDS OF JOBS ARE
DEPENDENT UPON THE PORT. FOR THE
PORT TO BE SUCCESSFUL YOU NEED
FREIGHT MOBILITY TO AND FROM THE
FREEWAY. THIS CORRIDOR IS
CRUCIAL FOR THE PORT TO BE
SUCCESSFUL . IF YOU DUMP 1000 OR
MORE CARS ON THE STREET AT ALL
TIMES OF THE DAY , IT WILL
JEOPARDIZE THE PORT IN OUR JOBS.
THESE ARE FAMILY WAGE JOBS THAT
LAST A CAREER. YOU CAN MAKE A
LOT OF MONEY IF YOU ARE AN
OUT-OF-STATE BILLIONAIRE AND YOU
WANT TO BUY CHEAP POLLUTED
INDUSTRIAL LAND AND WAVE YOUR
MAGIC WAND AND TURN IT IN TO
EXPENSIVE 100+ UNIT UP
APARTMENTS. WHEN THESE JOBS ARE
GONE, THESE ARE GONE FOREVER.
THE MAKERS DISTRICT IS MAKING US
NOT HAVE ANY JOBS .
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT
COUNCILMEMBERS THANK YOU, I AM
THE INTERNATIONAL SECRETARY
TREASURER OF THE MASTERS. I LIVE
IN THE SEATTLE 6 DISTRICT. OUR
MARITIME INDUSTRIAL LANDS ARE
BEDROCK ECONOMIC FOUNDATIONS FOR
THE CITY OF SEATTLE . OUR
INDUSTRIAL LAND SUPPORTS
LONG-TERM GENERATIONAL WEALTH
AND WE MUST PROTECT THIS AREA .
ONCE THIS IS DEVELOPED WITH
RESIDENTIAL HOTEL MAKER'S
DISTRICT, WE WILL LOSE IT. THIS
LAND IS IMPORTANT TO THE TRADE
IN AND OUT AND THROUGH OUR
STATE. I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE
COUNCIL BILL 120933. SUPPORT OUR
MARITIME INDUSTRIAL LANDS .
THANK YOU.
>> HELLO , I AM CARLYN SMITH AND
I WAS BORN AND RAISED AND STILL
LIVE IN THE CITY. I'M HERE TO
TAKE ANOTHER DAY OFF TO TRY TO
CONVINCE YOU TO STOP THREATENING
MY WORK AND LIVELIHOOD. IN THE
COMPROMISE THAT WAS STRUCK TWO
YEARS AGO WAS THE RIGHT ONE.
THIS ACTION BY THE COUNCILMEMBER
PRESIDENT SHOULD BE A STARK
WARNING TO ANY MEMBER OF THE
COUNCIL WORKING ON A COMPROMISE
THAT THEY SAY ARE ROADMAPS FOR
THE NEXT 20 YEARS. AS REVEALED
IN THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING,
SOMEONE WAS IN THE HALLWAY
TELLING THE PARTIES TO WAIT A
YEAR OR TWO AND COME BACK FOR
ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PIE. GIVE A
LITTLE NOW AND THEY WILL BE BACK
. I'M WAITING FOR MY BROTHERS
AND SISTERS TO HAVE LOTS OF WORK
THAT IT WOULD BE SHORTSIGHTED TO
COMPROMISE JOBS THAT HAVE BEEN
ON THE SHORE SINCE BEFORE
SEATTLE WAS A CITY FOR TWO OR
THREE YEAR CONSTRUCTION JOBS.
THESE JOBS CAN AND WILL GO AWAY
. THEY WILL MOVE TO PRINCE
RUPERT AND TACOMA AND L.A. WHERE
THE INDUSTRIAL GATEWAYS ARE NOT
SQUANDERED . NOT FOR SOME LAND
THEY WANT BUT A STADIUM ON.
>> THINK YOU .
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL AND
CHAIR NELSON. I AM THE SECRETARY
TREASURER FOR THE BOATMAN'S
UNION. I AM OUT OF THE TRADE AND
I'M HERE TO HELP REPRESENT THE
MARITIME BRANCH OF THE WORK ON
THE WATERFRONT. WE REPRESENT NOT
JUS . ALTHOUGH MANY OF OURARE E
IMPORTANTLY, THESE JOBS QUICKLY
BECOME CAREERS. MORE IMPORTANT
THAN THAT , THESE ARE CAREERS
THAT HELP SUSTAIN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE SPEAK STRONGLY IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL AND IN THE INTEREST
OF PROTECTING THE COMMUNITIES
THAT SUSTAIN THESE CAREERS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU .
>> HELLO , I AM ALEA PROUD
LONGSHOREMAN FOR LOCAL 19. I'VE
WORKED AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE 28
YEARS . IT IS UNCONSCIONABLE
AFTER LESSONS WE LEARNED DURING
THE SUPPLY CHAIN CRISIS DURING
THE PANDEMIC THAT WE WOULD LIMIT
OUR INDUSTRIAL LANDS . WE NEED
MORE IN THIS CITY AND
EVERYWHERE. OVER 854,000 FAMILY
WAGE JOBS DEPEND ON THE PORT OF
SEATTLE TO MOVE CARGO AND KEEP
CARGO MOVING. 854,000 PEOPLE
WILL KNOW WHO TO BLAME WHEN
SEATTLE DECIDES IT DOES NOT WANT
TO BE A PORT CITY ANYMORE. THANK
YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] .
>> MY NAME IS JORDAN ROYER AND
WE REPRESENT MARINE TERMINAL
OPERATORS AND SHIPPING LINES ON
THE WEST COAST AND WE WORK ON
THIS ISSUE IN EVERY PORT WE
OPERATE IN . THEY TRIED TO PUT A
BASEBALL STADIUM AT HOWARD
TERMINAL IN OAKLAND THAT WE
FOUGHT THAT SUCCESSFULLY SO THE
PORTABLE LEND IS STILL
OPERATIONAL . I WAS ON THE
ORIGINAL STAKEHOLDER GROUP THAT
CAME UP WITH THE DEAL IN 2023.
WE THOUGHT WE HAD A DEAL AND DID
NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO KEEP
DOING THIS. I KNOW IT IS
UNCOMFORTABLE FOR EVERYBODY BUT
IF YOU SEND A SIGNAL FOR CHEAP
INDUSTRIAL LAND AND GET IT
REZONED TO SELL IT AT A HIGHER
PRICE, THIS WILL KEEP HAPPENING
. THAT IS MY CONCERN AND WHY THE
DEAL IN 2023 WAS SO IMPORTANT .
EVERYBODY SAID, WE HAVE A DEAL
AND DON'T HAVE TO KEEP ARGUING
ABOUT THIS ANYMORE . WE RESPECT
WHAT WE NEED TO FUNCTION AS A
PORT CITY. I WOULD URGE YOU TO
CONTINUE WITH THAT SO WE DON'T
HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK OVER
AND OVER AGAIN AND THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MY NAME IS HAYNES AND -- HAS
ILL PEMBERTON AND I'M A MEMBER
OF ILWU LOCAL 19 AND I'M A
SECOND-GENERATION LONGSHORE
WORKER . MY SISTER IS BEHIND ME
AND SHE IS JUST SHARP STARTING
HER CAREER. I CURRENTLY LIVE ON
BEACON HILL . I'M OPPOSED TO
THIS BILL . THIS WOULD CURTAIL
OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IT
IS -- WHAT I KEEP THINKING ABOUT
IS I'M NOT SURE WHO IS GOING TO
LIVE HERE. I'M DOWN THERE EVERY
DAY AND I GO TO SLEEP AT HOME,
STILL HEARING THE SOUND OF THE
TRUCKS BACKING UP . STILL HAVING
THE SMELL OF EXHAUST IN MY
CLOTHING. I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE
LONGSHORE WORKER THAT WOULD WANT
TO LIVE SO CLOSE TO THE PORT,
EVEN THOUGH MANY OF OUR MEMBERS
LIVE VERY FAR AWAY . ALSO, I
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE POINT
THAT THIS AREA IS ALREADY ZONED
FOR BUSINESS AND SO THAT WOULD
NOT BE A NEW CHANGE, THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU.
>> HELLO, I'M IRENE PEMBERTON
AND THAT WAS MY SISTER. I'M A
LIFELONG SEATTLE RESIDENT AND
GROUP IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT. I
WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AT THE LAST
MEETING THAT WE WERE TOLD IN
REFERENCE TO THE HOUSING
COVENANTS THAT RESIDENTS WOULD
SIGN ACKNOWLEDGING THEY ARE
LIVING IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. I
WOULD ALSO SAY ON COVENANTS THAT
THEY ARE EXAMPLES OF RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENTS ON THE NORTH WALL
OF LUMEN FIELD AND THEY DID SIGN
COVENANTS AND THEY DO COMPLAIN
ABOUT STADIUM IN COURT
ACTIVITIES. AT THE WAVE AND THE
NO LOW , THEY DID SIGN COVENANTS
AND THEY HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE IN
TERMS OF NO LAWSUITS. SHE TOLD
US THERE HAD BEEN COMPLAINTS BY
THE RESIDENTS AND THE COVENANT
IS IN -- EFFECTIVE IN PROTECTING
PROPERTY OWNERS FROM LAWSUITS.
TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS
LEGISLATION IS NOT INTERESTED IN
PROTECTING THE RESIDENTS FROM
THE NOISE AND AIR POLLUTION THAT
THEY WILL BE CONSTANTLY EXPOSED
TO . WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
THIS IS NOT WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MY NAME IS SCOTT SERNA CAN I
DO NOT WORK FOR A BILLIONAIRE
AND I MET AFFORDABLE HOUSING
CONSULTANT MOST RECENTLY WORKING
WITH ART SPACE THAT IS WANTING
TO BUILD 100 AFFORDABLE HOUSING
UNITS FOR ARTISTS IN THE MAKERS
AREAS BELOW. WHEN ARTISTS LEAVE,
THEY DON'T COME BACK EITHER .
ONE THING I HEAR ABOUT FREIGHT
MOBILITY . NEW MARKET RATE UNITS
DO A .5 PARKING RATE RATIO.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, USUALLY THE
DEMAND IS FOR NO PARKING .
CONSIDERING THIS IS NEAR THE
LINK LIGHT RAIL , THIS COULD BE
A TRANSIT ORIENTED LIGHT RAIL
WITH A TRANSIT ORIENTED
COMMUNITY. 1000 HOUSING UNITS,
HALF OF WHICH WOULD BE
AFFORDABLE THERE WOULD BE UP .5
PARKING RATIO AT 250 PARKING
SPACES. ON ANY GIVEN GAME DAY
THERE ARE 20,000 OR 30,000 CARS
MAKING THEIR WAY AND IT'S A
DROP IN THE BUCKET AND WILL HAVE
MINIMAL IF ANY IMPACT ON THE
FREIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> NOW WE HAVE NUMBER 51, THE
LAST IN PERSON PUBLIC COMMENTOR.
PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY UP TO THE
FRONT, PLEASE.
>> GOOD MORNING . MY NAME IS LIZ
AND LYONS AND I AM WITH THE
PROPERTIES THAT OWN AND OPERATE
THE STADIUMS . ONE THING THAT
HAS NOT BEEN NOTED HERE IS THIS
LAND HAS BEEN ZONED COMMERCIAL
AND FOR OFFICE FOR OVER TWO
DECADES. HOUSING HAS LOWER TRIP
GENERATION THEN OFFICE WORK OR
COMMERCIAL. IF THIS IS NOT A
MAKER'S DISTRICT, THE OLD
WAREHOUSES AND LOTS WILL BE
DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT. IT WILL
MOST LIKELY BE PLANNED OFFICE
BUILDINGS OR AN ENTERTAINMENT
DISTRICT WHICH WILL HAVE A
GREATER IMPACT ON FREIGHT
MOBILITY. WE ALSO HAVE TO
REMEMBER THERE WAS AN EI S AND A
GRANULAR STUDY DONE OF THIS THAT
DETERMINED IT WOULD NOT IMPACT
MOBILITY AND WOULD NOT HARM AND
THE INDUSTRIAL AND MARITIME BASE
. THANK YOU.
>> THINK YOU . COUNCIL PRESIDENT
, MAY I GO BACK TO THE REMAINING
PUBLIC COMMENTOR'S?
>> YES .
>> THANK YOU . ALL RIGHT,
SWITCHING GEARS BACK TO REMOTE
PUBLIC COMMENT . GIVE ME A QUICK
SECOND HERE . ALL RIGHT, CHAD C
, PLEASE PRESS STAR AND 6 TO
UNMUTE YOURSELF.
>> MY NAME IS CHAD AND I AND THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
DEVELOPMENT COALITION AND I WISH
TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION
TO COUNCIL BILL 120933. I AM
PROUD OF THE WORK OF THE
COMMITTEE AND WE HAD A DEAL. WE
SHOULD NOT BE REVISITING THIS
AGREEMENT. WE SUPPORT AFFORDABLE
HOUSING . BUT IT IS IMPACTING
THE LARGEST PORT GATEWAY WITH
THOUSANDS OF WORKERS. 'S WE
SHOULD NOT BE CREATING NEW
ROADBLOCKS FOR THE ARTS DISTRICT
. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAD. NEXT, WE
WILL HAVE PAULA .
>> HI, MY NAME IS PAULA McVEIGH
AND I'M A LONGSHORE WITH LOCAL
52 AND I'M IN OPPOSITION OF
THIS THING, I'M SORRY I FORGOT
THE NUMBER. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
THE SAFETY OF FAMILIES IN THIS
AREA . IT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
CONCERNS. IF YOU WALK DOWN IN
THE SOTO AREA OR WHERE THIS IS
PLANNED TO BE BUILT, IT IS NOT
SAFE. TRYING TO PICK KIDS WITH
FAMILIES IN THE MIDDLE OF WHERE
TRUCKS ARE ROLLING THROUGH, WE
NEED TO PROTECT THE INDUSTRIAL
AREA AND KEEP IT INDUSTRIAL .
IT'S NOT A SAFE PLACE FOR
FAMILIES TO BE LIVING . I
UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THIS IS
NOT THE PLACE, THANK YOU.
>> THINK YOU .
>> MAC CONTINUE THE IN PERSON
PUBLIC COMMENTERS?
>> YES .
>> NUMBER 52 . NUMBER 52 FOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT , COME ON DOWN .
>> YOU ARE WEARING THE CHIEF'S
HAT.
>> I'M A SEATTLE LONGSHOREMAN.
THE SOTO AREA IS PRETTY MUCH
ZONED AND SET UP FOR INDUSTRIAL
BUSINESSES AND YOU CANNOT MOVE
THESE BUSINESSES TO WALLINGFORD,
LET'S SAY . THESE PROVIDE
ESSENTIAL STUFF AND EVERYTHING
YOU HAVE PROBABLY CAME FROM A
WAREHOUSE IN THE SOTO AREA.
EVERYTHING IN A FIVE STATE AREA
. WITH THE RAIL YARDS AND ALL OF
THAT, YOU JUST DISPLAYS IT BUT
THE BUSINESSES CANNOT GO
ANYWHERE ELSE. WE ARE OUT WITH
JOBS AND EVERYTHING AND IT IS
COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THAT
CONCLUDES BOTH REMOTE AND IN
PERSON PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE
PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING COUNCIL
BILL 120933.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR
TAKING TIME AWAY FROM YOUR JOBS
TO GIVE PUBLIC SPEAKING POINTS
ON THIS IMPORTANT LEGISLATION.
THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER TO
PRESENT AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING
ON COUNCIL BILL 120933. THE
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
NOW WE WILL HAVE COMMENTS BY
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE . IF
ANYBODY NEEDS TO USE THE
RESTROOM , NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO
DO THAT WELL PEOPLE ARE COMING
TO THE TABLE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH EVERYBODY.
>> COULD YOU JUST SAY WE ARE IN
BRIEF RECESS .
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
CALL ROLE AFTER THE RECESS? AS
WE RESUME THE MEETING, SHE WILL
COME .
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH ?
MICK COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE .
>> HERE .
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA QUESTION
MARK
>> PRESENT .
>> COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON ?
>> CHAIR NELSON ?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON IS
EXCUSED .
>> AND PLEASE READ INTO THE
MINUTES .
>> FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> OKAY , THIS IS INCLUDED IN
TODAY'S AGENDA AT THE REQUEST
OF COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE . I WILL
BRIEFLY LET HIM EXPLAIN WHY --
FIRST I WILL LET THE PRESENTERS
PRESENTS. PRESENTERS, PLEASE
COME TO THE TABLE.
>> ARE THE THREE PRESENTED .
>> WE HAVE WE HAVE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR FROM THE WASHING
IMPORTS ASSOCIATION IN CASE
ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT
STATE WIDE IMPLICATIONS FOR
SUPPLY CHAIN PRODUCERS AND
SUPPLIES, ET CETERA .
>> WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP AN
EQUAL NUMBER OF ADVOCATES AT THE
TABLES AND IN OUR PANELS . SO,
IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
THAT CAN ONLY BE ANSWERED BY THE
ADDITIONAL GUESTS, I WILL HAVE
TO ACCEPT THAT BECAUSE I DON'T
WANT TO MAKE A SCENE, BUT WE ARE
TRYING TO KEEP THINGS SORT OF --
WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN
PARITY. GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT .
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR NOT
JUST SUPPORT BUT TO HAVE THE
FREIGHT LOGISTICS PIECE ALSO
SPOKEN TO AS WELL . ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT IS
UNDERSTANDING THE DYNAMICS AND
THERE IS A LOT OF DYNAMICS THAT
PERTAIN TO THE SHIPPING INDUSTRY
THAT RELATE TO PORT OPERATIONS .
I THINK THESE PIECES ARE
UNDERSERVED AND IT'S IMPORTANT
TO HAVE THIS PANEL SPEAK
ESPECIALLY THE PRESIDENT FROM
THE ILWU AND THE FREIGHT
ADVISORY BOARD WHO CAN SPEAK
REALLY WELL. AND I ADMIT THE
COMMISSION PRESIDENT HAS BACKUP
BUT AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU
KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE
BACKUP WHEN TOPICS COME UP AND
THAT'S THE MAIN REASON. I
APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING OUT
TODAY. WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF
PUBLIC COMMENT AND I DON'T WANT
TO DELAY ANY LONGER AND WILL
TURN IT OVER TO THE PANEL. THANK
YOU.
>> OKAY, TRADITIONALLY WHEN A
COUNCILMEMBER HAS LEGISLATION
THEY ARE ADVANCING , THEY GET
THEIR PROPONENTS AT THE TABLE,
ET CETERA AND THAT IS WHY IT WAS
NOT INCLUDED IN THE BEGINNING OF
THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS. BUT,
COUNCILMEMBER CATTELL AND I ARE
CLOSE ALLIES AND HE IS ALSO THE
VICE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AND
SO WE ARE -- I AM MAKING AN
EXCEPTION FOR THE GENERAL
TRADITION . GO AHEAD AND PLEASE
INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND BEGIN
YOUR PRESENTATION.
>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND GO FIRST
AND THEN PASTOR MY
CO-PRESENTERS. GOOD MORNING
COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON AND
OTHER MEMBERS OF COMMITTEE, MY
NAME IS TOSHIKO HASEGAWA AND I
AM CO-CHAIR AND WITH THE CARGO
OPERATION WITH DOMESTIC AND
TRADE TERMINALS . I THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE
WITH YOU DIRECT REALLY THE
COMPONENTS OF THE LEGISLATION AS
WELL AS THEIR PROPONENTS OF
INDUSTRIAL LAND CLERK DOES AND
OUR WORK TO BUILD A PORT FOR THE
FUTURE. OUR POSITION TODAY IS
SIMPLE , DO NOT PROCEED WITH
THIS BILL AND PLEASE ENABLE THE
CERTAINTY WE ALL AGREED TO IN
2023 . IT IS IMPORTANT WE BE
HONEST ABOUT WHAT THIS
LEGISLATION DOES . IT PUTS
HOUSING ON THE FRONT STEP OF
INDUSTRY ELIMINATING A 200 FOOT
BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENCE AND
OUR PRIMARY HEAVY HAUL . IT'S A
SPECIAL CARVEOUT FOR A SPECIFIC
PROPERTY BENEFITING ONE
BILLIONAIRE DEVELOPER FROM
CALIFORNIA AND IT WOULD
UNDERMINE OUR GOALS FOR QUALITY
OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS. TO
START, THE PROPOSAL COMPROMISES
SAFETY PUTTING PEDESTRIANS AND
DIRECT CONFLICT WITH FREIGHT AND
TRAINS HIS RECKLESS URBAN
PLANNING. THE COMPANION
TRANSPORTATION CHAMPION BY
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS WITH THIS
IMPORTANT WORK LEANED ON THE
CITY'S OWN RACE AND SOCIAL
JUSTICE TOOLKIT SAYING THAT
HEAVY TRUCK SHOULD NOT MOVE
THROUGH RESIDENTIAL SPACES. I AM
D2 RESIDENT WHO KNOWS THE
CONFLICTS WITH THE TALLIES WITH
PEDESTRIANS AND TRANSPORTATION
ROUTES. NEXT, THIS LEGISLATION
IS A HOUSING JUSTICE ISSUE .
PEOPLE DESERVE HOUSING AND
ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AMENITIES THAT SOTO LACKS LIKE
LIBRARIES, GROCERY STORES AND
GREEN SPACES. PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
INDUSTRIAL AREAS EXPERIENCE
SIGNIFICANT QUALITY-OF-LIFE
IMPACT S LIKE NOISE POLLUTION
FROM LOUD TRUCKS AND THE SOUND
OF HEAVY MACHINERY AND TRAIN
WHISTLES . GLARE FROM LIGHTS AND
IMPORTANTLY EXPOSURE TO AIR AND
WATER POLLUTION. THIS ASPECT, IN
PARTICULAR IS SOMETHING THE PORT
HAS SPENT MILLIONS TO ADDRESS
AND IT'S CALLED ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE . TAKE IT FROM THE PORT
COMMISSIONER WHO SPENT COUNT AS
HOURS LISTENING TO RESIDENTS
ABOUT THEIR HARDSHIP AND OUR
RESPONSIBILITY TO REMEDIATE.
PEOPLE LIVING NEAR INDUSTRY AND
TRANSPORTATION HUBS HAVE A
DISPARATE IMPACT SUCH HIGHER
INCIDENCE OF CANCER, LOW BIRTH
WEIGHT AND INFANT MORTALITY.
WHERE PEOPLE LIVE NEXT TO
INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS THERE IS A
LOWER THAN AVERAGE LIFE
EXPECTANCY BY 13 YEARS. THIS
PROPOSAL IS NOT HOUSING
CHAMPIONSHIP. PEOPLE DESERVE
BETTER AND MARKING THIS FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AKIN TO
REDLINING. HURTING BUSINESS AND
THE WORKING WATERFRONT AND
INDUSTRIAL LANDS HAVE AN
OUTSIZED 30% OF INDUSTRIAL
REVENUE . WHEN WE MEET CUSTOMERS
, WE HEAR ABOUT THE CERTAINTY
NEEDED TO OPERATE WITHIN SEATTLE
. IN FACT, OUR NORTHWEST SEAPORT
ALLIANCES IN ASIA RIGHT NOW
TALKING WITH POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS
. WE ARE A DISCRETIONARY PORT
WHICH MEANS WE COMPETE WITH
OTHER PORTS IN ORDER TO GET
BUSINESS. THESE ARE BOTTOM-LINE
COMPANIES MAKING DECISIONS BASED
ON OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES.
THEY NEED RELIABILITY AND THEY
NEED CONSISTENCY . AND, WE ARE
OPERATING IN A DIFFICULT
ENVIRONMENT WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP
ONLY INTENSIFYING RELATIONS WITH
OUR LATEST TRADE PARTNER, CHINA
. PUTTING HOUSING ACROSS THE
STREET FROM THE DEEP WATER
TERMINAL AND THE PRIMARY FREIGHT
ROUTE IS A SERIOUS LOGISTICAL
PROBLEM. YOU WILL DRIVE BUSINESS
TO CANADA OR CALIFORNIA AND
WITHOUT VOLUME, LONGSHOREMEN DO
NOT WORK . DESPITE THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION'S ATTACK ON
SUSTAINABILITY , I AM HERE TO
TELL YOU THE GLOBAL CLEAN ENERGY
ECONOMY IS THRIVING. WE DO WHAT
SEATTLE DOES BEST. LEADING ON
PROGRESSIVE VALUES AND
SUPPORTING THE MARITIME VALUE
WITH DECARBONIZATION AND
SUPPORTING THE ECONOMY GLOBALLY.
THE WORK IS UNDERWAY . IT LOOKS
LIKE SHORE POWER AT OUR CARGO
AND CRUISE TERMINALS WITH
ADOPTION OF GREEN FUELS FOR C
AND CARGO SHIPS. IT'S INVESTING
INTO MARITIME'S FUTURE WORK
FORCE THROUGH MARITIME HIGH
SCHOOL AND THE YOUTH MARITIME
COLLABORATIVE AND YOUTH TIME
BLUE WHERE WE SUPPORT
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON. IT LOOKS LIKE THE
COAST GUARD EXPANDING ITS BASE
HERE IN SEATTLE THANKS TO OUR
CONGRESSIONAL CHAMPIONS AND ITS
RECORD OF DECISION IS COMING IN
THE SPRING. AND THE VISION OF
ACTIVATING TERMINAL 46 AS A TWO
BERTH TERMINAL TO SUPPORT
STATE-OF-THE-ART CARBON NEUTRAL
VESSELS THAT SUPPLY THE REGION
WITH GOODS. THIS WORK IS A BIG
DEAL WITH TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC
AND ENVIRONMENTAL POTENTIAL .
THIS BILL PUTS ALL OF THAT AT
RISK. IF YOU PASS THIS
LEGISLATION, YOU COMPROMISE OUR
ABILITY TO COMPETE FOR CARGO
MARKET SHARE AND LEAD ON THE
VISION FOR TRANSFORMING CLIMATE
CHANGE AND YOU IMPACT LONGSHORE
AND OTHER MARITIME JOBS. IN 2023
, IT WAS AN HONOR TO JOIN MAYOR
HARRELL FOR INDUSTRIAL LANDS FOR
WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A DECADE. WE
APPRECIATE THE QUARTERLY
MEETINGS WITH THOUGHT
PARTNERSHIP. THE PORTS WERE
CREATED AND INDUSTRIAL LANDS
PROTECTED TO PROTECT INDUSTRIAL
RESOURCES AND MAKE SURE THE
PEOPLE BENEFIT FROM THESE ASSETS
IN PERPETUITY . SO, I ASK YOU
WHY THIS PROPERTY , WHY NOW? WE
AGREE THAT HOUSING AVAILABILITY
IS A CRISIS AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS
A PRIORITY . WE BELIEVE IN
CREATING UNION JOBS FOR OUR
LABOR WORK FORCE . I WAS RAISED
IN A LABOR HOUSEHOLD AND MY
PARENTS TAUGHT ME THAT WE NEED
TO STAND UP WITH AND FOR EACH
OTHER . IN THE AGE OF DRILL,
BABY, DRILL , TRADE WARS AND
UNIONBUSTING, I'VE BEEN SAYING
TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH A FULL
CHEST THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS
OUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE AND WE
SHOULD BE STANDING IN SOLIDARITY
. WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOGETHER
TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
COMMUNITIES TO THRIVE WITH EACH
OTHER AND NOT AT EACH OTHER'S
EXPENSE . WE CERTAINLY SHOULD
NOT BE KOWTOWING TO THE INTEREST
OF AN OUT-OF-STATE BILLIONAIRE .
I HAVE DEEP RESPECT FOR THE
LIVELIHOOD OF EVERY PERSON IN
THIS ROOM . INDEED, WE NEED TO
BUILD THE INDUSTRIAL
INFRASTRUCTURE AND PORT OF THE
FUTURE . THIS LEGISLATION
DISRUPTS THE CAREFUL THOUGHT AND
HOLISTIC FRAMEWORK THAT OUR
CONSTITUENTS DESERVE AND IT HAS
BEEN DIVISIVE. ARE WE TRULY SO
FAR APART? WE NEED TRUE
LEADERSHIP FROM THE COUNCIL TO
LEAD US TO THE ONE SEATTLE
FUTURE WHERE THE TRANSFER NATION
AND TUBERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
OVERALL NEEDS OF THIS MOVEMENT.
THANK YOU .
>> BEFORE GOING ONTO THE NEXT
SPEAKER, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU
HAVE A POTENTIAL TIME CONFLICT.
YOU HAVE COVERED A LOT OF --
>> WHAT DID YOU SAY, I COULDN'T
HEAR YOUR ANSWER?
>> WE DO NOT HAVE A CLOCK BEFORE
US AND CANNOT TIME OURSELVES .
>> IF IT'S OKAY , I BELIEVE YOU
HAVE TO LEAVE EARLIER OR THAT
YOU ARE IN A CRUNCH, AS I WAS
TOLD BEFORE THE MEETING. CAN I
ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BEFORE
MOVING ONTO THE NEXT PERSON,
SINCE YOU ARE HERE?
>> YES.
>> ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS -- IT
HAS BEEN ON MY MIND SINCE THE
BEGINNING. WHY DID THE COURT NOT
CHALLENGE THE EIS THAT SHOWED
LITTLE TO NO ADVERSE IMPACTS ,
ET CETERA . THAT'S WHAT I WANT
CLARITY ON SO I CAN BETTER HEAR
THE FREIGHTS MOBILITY PERSON ON
YOUR PANEL .
>> CERTAINLY . I WILL SAY IT IS
AS PROBLEMATIC NOW AS IT WAS
THEN . IF WE HAD KNOWN THEN, WE
WOULD'VE CHALLENGED TO THE
MATTER BUT THE TRUTH IS WE HAD
MOVE FORWARD IN CONFERENCE WITH
THE MAYOR AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS
WHICH INCLUDED A COMPROMISE
PACKAGE WHICH INCLUDED HOTELS
WHICH WE BELIEVE WOULD GIVE US
THE CERTAINTY THAT WE NEED MOST
OF ALL FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. I
WILL SAY PROBLEMATIC AS IT WAS,
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS CHAMPIONED
A COMPANION RESOLUTION WHICH HAD
THE INTRODUCTION OF FREIGHT AND
SOCIAL JUSTICE TOOLKIT .
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. AND ,
ANYBODY WHO IS EVER TRIED TO
WAIT FOR THE EIS TO BE DONE
KNOWS THAT THE ANALYSIS THAT
NEEDS TO BE DONE IS QUITE TIMELY
. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COMPARE
THAT TO A RESOLUTION AND THANK
YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
AND , SO, BASICALLY YOU DID NOT
CHALLENGE BECAUSE YOU KNOW NOW
THAT INFORMATION HAS COME TO
LIGHT SINCE THAT DID NOT COMPEL
THE BOARD TO CHALLENGE THE EIS
AT THE TIME? IS THAT CORRECT ?
>> WE HAD MOVE FORWARD INTO
CONFERENCE WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS
AND THE MAYOR WHICH LED TO THE
COMPROMISE LEGISLATION THAT WE
WERE THERE FOR THE SIGNING OR .
>> WELL, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE
COMPROMISE DEVELOPMENT THE PORT
AGREED TO OR WAS AT THE TABLE
WHEN NUMBERS OF 3000 UNITS OF
HOUSING WERE PROPOSED DURING THE
PROCESS AND THAT WAS REDUCED TO
, I DON'T KNOW, 1500 OR SO AND
THEN IT WAS IN THE PREFERRED
ALTERNATIVE AND THEN IT DIDN'T
END UP IN THE LEGISLATION.
>> MAY I?
>> YES .
>> SO I WAS ON STAFF AT THE PORT
OF SEATTLE COMMISSION AT THE
TIME. THE PORT OF SEATTLE SENT A
22 PAGE COMMENT LETTER ON THE
EIS AND ALL THE CONCERNS WE HAD
. AT THE TIME, THE LETTER
CLEARLY STATED WE DID NOT
SUPPORT AN ALTERNATIVE THAT
INCLUDED HOUSING IN THIS AREA.
THAT CAME FORWARD AS A
COMPROMISE AND MANY STAKEHOLDERS
, I WAS SAY NOBODY GOT WHAT THEY
WANTED AT THE TIME . IN OUR
COMMENT LETTER, WE DID
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CERTAIN AREAS
DID ALLOW FOR HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT BUT NOT THE AREAS WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY . THAT
EXPLAINS WHY THERE WAS NOT A
CHALLENGE AT THE TIME AND SPITE
OF QUITE A BIT OF CONCERN .
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT THE URBAN
INDUSTRIAL ZONING REQUIREMENT TO
50% AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT 60%
-90% AMI APPLIED TO ALL OF THE
NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE ZONE WAS
UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE WHEN IT
WAS REMOVED FROM THE STADIUM
OVERLAY DISTRICT BY THE
PROHIBITION OF NO TRUCK'S -- OR
NO HOUSING RESIDENTIAL USES
WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE HEAVY
TRUCK ROUTES . SO, IT JUST SEEMS
-- YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND YOU ARE
RIGHT THAT THE UI DID ALLOW FOR
HOUSING IN MOST PLACES AND THEN
BEFORE THE LEGISLATION CAME
FORWARD, THE EXCEPTION WAS MADE
FOR THE STADIUM DISTRICT. OKAY
ANY OTHER ?
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT , I THOUGHT
WE WERE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE
END .
>> YOU TOLD ME AT THE BEGINNING
OF THIS MEETING THAT THERE WAS A
POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH OUR
COMMISSIONERS PARTICIPATION IN
THIS PANEL AND THE REQUEST WAS
TO PUT THE PANEL BEFORE THE
PUBLIC HEARING. I DIDN'T WANT
TO DO THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE
SURE --
>> PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT . IF
YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE
CONTENTION OF THE PARTICIPANTS,
GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
>> MAY I ?
>> YES .
>> I JUST WANT TO STATE -- SAY
FOR THE RECORD THAT I CAN STICK
AROUND IF YOU NEED ME TO STICK
AROUND .
>> GO AHEAD, EVERYBODY ELSE WE
WILL NOT INTERRUPT .
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER
TOSHIKO HASEGAWA WHAT YOU TALKED
ABOUT IN TERMS OF YOUR UNION
FAMILY BACKGROUND. I TOO WAS
SOMEONE IN A UNION AND WE SEEM
TO HAVE MANY UNION MEMBERS COME
TO TESTIFY IN SOMEWHERE IN'S
PORT AND SOME NOT . THERE IS
BROAD FEELINGS AROUND THIS FROM
OUR LABELER PARTNERS AND WE
WANTED TO STATE THAT AS YOU ARE
DISCUSSING . I WANT TO BE TRUE
TO WHAT WE HEARD AND WE HEARD
FROM MANY DIFFERENT LABEL
PARTNERS BOTH IN SUPPORT AND NOT
IN SUPPORT. MY QUESTION IS ,
RELATED TO THAT AREA , AND, I'M
TRYING TO GET MORE INFORMATION .
I WAS NOT PART OF THE
NEGOTIATIONS WHEN THIS ALL
HAPPENED . I AM WONDERING, THE
AREAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL AND
OFFICE WHICH WOULD ALREADY HAVE
AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC , SO I'M
NOT UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN ALLOWING FOR LIMITED
WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE AREA
GIVEN THAT IT IS ALREADY --
THERE ARE BIG BUILDINGS THERE
THAT ARE COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE
SPACE.
>> SO, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN HOUSING VERSUS OFFICE
SPACE WITHIN THE AREA?
>> IT'S NOT WHAT IS THE
DIFFERENCE , I UNDERSTAND THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOUSING AND
OFFICE SPACE. COMMERCIAL ALSO
BRINGS PEOPLE AND TRAFFIC.
>> IT IS AN ENTERTAINMENT AREA.
>> YES, I CONSIDER THAT
COMMERCIAL TOO . SO, THERE IS
MORE ACTIVITY IN THE AREA , NOW,
WHICH MEANS MORE TRAFFIC . I
DON'T KNOW WHY ALLOWING FOR
LIMITED WORKFORCE HOUSING WILL
HAVE MORE IMPACT THAN IS ALREADY
THERE WITH THE COMMERCIAL USE.
THAT INCLUDES HOTELS,
ENTERTAINMENT AND OFFICE SPACE
IN THE SPORTS COMPLEX .
>> AND , IT IS KNOWN FOR HOTELS
TO BRING ADDITIONAL FOOT TRAFFIC
WHICH I THINK SOME STAKEHOLDERS
WERE WILLING TO SEE AND THAT WAS
A POINT OF COMPROMISE TWO YEARS
AGO WHEN WE GOT TO THAT OR WHAT
WE THOUGHT WAS AN AGREEMENT .
THE DIFFERENCE WITH HOUSING IS
THAT THESE ARE PERMANENT
RESIDENTS AND OVER THE COURSE OF
TIME THEY WILL BE EXPOSED TO THE
IMPACTS OF INDUSTRIAL OPERATION
. THEY WILL BE THERE ALL THE
TIME AND NOT JUST COMING TO THE
HOTEL FOR A NIGHT AND THEN GOING
TO LEAVE. YOU WILL HEAR FROM
THESE CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE
LIVING HERE I NEXT TO AN
INDUSTRIAL OPERATION. IF WE ARE
DOING IT RIGHT , THAT INDUSTRIAL
OPERATION WILL ONLY GROW . IN
ADDITION TO THE PEOPLE LIVING
THERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT,
THAT'S WHERE THEY COME INTO
WITH FREIGHT TRAFFIC. I THOUGHT
IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR FROM
A TEAMSTER SAYING I DON'T WANT
TO HIT ANYBODY WITH MY TRUCK. WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LONG-TERM
SAFETY IMPACTS OF PUTTING
PEDESTRIANS IN CONFLICT WITH
FREIGHT . SO WE DO HAVE AN
INITIATIVE TOOLKIT ASSESSMENT OF
THE CITY'S OWN MAKING THAT
IDENTIFIED THAT AS A RULE,
FREIGHT SHOULD NOT BE PUT IN
RESIDENTIAL AREAS .
>> AND YET WE HAVE RESIDENCE IN
PIONEER SQUARE WHICH IS RIGHT
THERE TOO .
>> AND I AM NOT SURPRISED THEY
ARE ADVOCATING FOR MORE
AMENITIES .
>> IT DOES NOT ANSWER MY
QUESTION ABOUT TRAFFIC. THERE
ARE USES ALLOWED THAT IS
BRINGING MORE TRAFFIC TO THE
AREAS .
>> COUNCILMEMBER, WE DO HAVE A
FREIGHT MOBILITY EXPERT AT THE
TABLE. I RECOMMEND YOU LET MY
CO-PANELIST SAY THEIR PIECE AS
WELL AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE
OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME .
>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND I WILL
FOLLOW UP ON MY QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE EQUITY ANALYSIS AND THE
CONDITIONS THAT ARE ALREADY SET
ON THE HOUSING THAT WOULD BE
BUILT ANYWHERE. GO AHEAD AND
CONTINUE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION,
PLEASE .
>> THANK YOU CHAIR .
COUNCILMEMBERS, I AM DAN
McKISSON WITH THE COUNCIL. I HAD
MY FIRST SHIFT ON THE WATERFRONT
IN 1886 AND SINCE I WAS A
CASUAL, I ALSO WORKED AT THE
RAIL YARD . I HAVE BEEN IN SODA
MY ENTIRE CAREER IN SEATTLE AND
I HAVE SEEN THE CHANGES . MOST
OF THESE ARE NOT GOOD FOR
INDUSTRY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
THE STATE OF THE STADIUM OR WHAT
IS BEING REFERRED TO AS THE
STADIUM DISTRICT. THE REAL NAME
OF THAT AREA IS THE STADIUM
TRANSITION OVERLAY DISTRICT .
THAT WAS PUT INTO EFFECT
SPECIFIC WAY TO MAKE A BUFFER
BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE
STADIUMS AND INDUSTRY. SINCE
'86, I HAVE WATCHED THE LEAGUE
OF INDUSTRIAL LANDS AND IT'S
BEEN A PROBLEM . WE HAVE MANY
MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE AND IT
MAKES IT MORE DANGEROUS AND
IT'S HARDER TO MOVE FREIGHT .
AND LET ME TALK ABOUT JOBS . THE
WASHINGTON MARITIME FEDERATION
STUDY IN 2022 IS STATEWIDE WE
HAVE 22,000 JOBS ASSOCIATED WITH
MARITIME AND SHIPPING .
STATEWIDE WE HAVE 2500
REGISTERED LONGSHORE WORKERS .
WHICH MEANS FOR EVERY LONGSHORE
WORKER THERE ARE NINE ASSOCIATED
JOBS. ON AVERAGE, THOSE WORKERS
EARN $112,000 ANNUALLY .
LONGSHORE JOBS ARE WITH SHIPS
CALLING ON THE PORT OF SEATTLE.
NO SHIPS, NO JOBS AND IT'S THAT
SIMPLE. LONGSHORE WORK , WHEN
AVAILABLE, IS ORDERED BY
EMPLOYERS 24 HOURS PER DAY SEVEN
DAYS PER WEEK. WHEN IT'S BUSY
AND YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK
OVERTIME, YOU CAN EARN MORE THAN
$112,000 AND THAT'S WITHOUT A
COLLEGE DEGREE. WE CONDUCT TWO
DISPATCHES PER DAY WITH ONE IN
THE MORNING AND ONE AT NIGHT.
WHEN ALL TERMINALS ARE
OPERATING, WE HAVE 20 SHIP GAINS
ON NIGHTS . WE CAN MOVE 20,500
CONTAINERS TO AND FROM SHIPS IN
A 24 HOUR PERIOD . THOSE
CONTAINERS MOVING IN AND OUT OF
THE PORT ARE USING RAIL OR TRUCK
. OUR AG EXPORTERS DEPEND
HEAVILY ON SAFE AND EFFICIENT
MOVEMENT THROUGH THOSE COURT
ORDERS . HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS HAVE BEEN'S BEEN ON
FREIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE TO
IMPROVE SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY .
WE HAVE BEEN PROMISED MITIGATION
AND PROJECTS THAT NEVER HAPPENED
. FOR EXAMPLE, PEDESTRIAN
IMPROVEMENTS WERE PROMISED WHEN
THEY BUILT THE STADIUMS AND WHEN
THEY BUILT THE BASEBALL STADIUM,
THAT NEVER HAPPENED. THERE IS
BEEN NO IMPROVEMENT TO A
PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IN THE AREA .
THEN YOU HAVE SR 519 ON ATLANTIC
STREET . THAT ORIGINAL PROJECT
WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOUR LANES TO
I-5 AND I-90 . THE OTHER HALF OF
THAT WAS FOUR LANES OFF OF I-90.
SOMEHOW THE CITY ALLOW THAT NOT
TO HAPPEN BY ALLOWING OTHER
STRUCTURES TO BE BUILT. WE HAVE
50% OF THE PROJECT DONE . 50%
AND YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT IT IS
LIKE ON GAME DAY, WE DON'T MOVE
FREIGHT THROUGH THERE BECAUSE
IT'S TOO DANGEROUS . AND THE
BUILDING ASSOCIATION WITH THE
PROPERTY AND DISPATCH IN SOTO
SINCE 1980 . WE HAVE DEALT WITH
MANY OF THE SAME PROBLEMS BEING
PUT FORWARD FOR HOUSING AND THE
STADIUM TRANSITION. ALMOST WITH
SAFETY AND PARKING. AS PROPERTY
OWNERS WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE
CITY TO ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS
TO MAKE THE ENVIRONMENT SAFER.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT EFFORT.
SIMPLY ADDING HOUSING TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WERE NOT
HAVE THOSE SAME INFORMATION IN
ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS .
MAYBE WE SHOULD BE POKING ON
THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THE
SOTO NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE HAD A
90% OCCUPANCY EVEN DURING THE
2007 AND 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS.
OUR LOCAL GREW BY 30% . DURING
COVID, THE OCCUPANCY RATE DID
NOT DROP BELOW 90% . DOWNTOWN
SEATTLE IS STILL EXPERIENCING UP
TO 30% VACANCY RATES IN MANY
BUILDINGS. SOTO CONSISTENTLY
PRODUCES JOBS . 12% OF THE
PROPERTY IN THE CITY AND 30% OF
THE TAX REVENUE. WE HAD A SLIDE
DECK THAT WE DON'T HAVE TIME
FOR . I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT
OUT WHEN YOU GUYS GOT A COPY OF
THIS PAGE , I THINK IT'S PAGE
TWO WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT STATEMENT THAT TALKS
ABOUT WHY HOUSING IS NOT GOOD
THERE. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY IN
THE EIS WHY HOUSING IS NOT SAFE
FOR PEOPLE . THE PROPERTY IS
FLANKED ON THREE SIDES BY TRUCK
STREETS. ATLANTIC FIRST AND
COLGATE. AND AMTRAK WANTS A
STUDY ON COLGATE AND WE NEED TO
MITIGATE THAT. THE BNC NORTH IS
ONE BLOCK TO THAT EAST AND THERE
IS A REASON WHY THE ORIGINAL
LEGISLATION PROVIDED A 20 FOOT
BUFFER BETWEEN MAJOR TRUCK
STREETS AND HOUSING . IT IS
SIMPLY A SAFETY SITUATION . YOU
KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HOTELS,
RIGHT ? ALL OF THOSE ADDITIONS
TO THE TRANSITION DISTRICT , WE
DIDN'T LIKE ANY OF THEM AND
STILL DON'T LIKE THEM .
COMPROMISES WERE MADE . WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE WHEN THAT FIRST
HOTEL IS BUILT THAT WE ARE
BUILDING SIDEWALKS AND
PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WIDE ENOUGH
FOR THE HOTELS BUT WE HAVEN'T
SEEN THE PLANNING OVER THE YEARS
. LET'S BUILD IT AND HOPE
PEOPLE CAN GET THROUGH THEIR.
YOU KNOW , WE THOUGHT WE HAD A
DEAL . YOU KNOW, THE STAKEHOLDER
GROUP WITH WHICH WE HAD
REPRESENTATION ON SENT AN
AGREEMENT TO THE MAHER'S DESK
THAT HAD NO HOUSING IN IT AND
THEN THE DEVELOPERS RAN UP THERE
AND ASKED FOR HOUSING . PEOPLE
NEGOTIATED HOTELS. WAS
ABSOLUTELY NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE
HOTELS BECAUSE IT'S A PROBLEM
WITH PEDESTRIANS. SO, WITH THE
WORK OF COUNCILMAN STRAUSS, WE
GOT 927 WHICH HASN'T HAD A
CHANCE TO BE IMPLEMENTED . IT'S
TWO YEARS AWAY AND WE ARE
ALREADY BACK AT THE TABLE. WE
THOUGHT WE HAD A LONG-TERM
AGREEMENT ON INDUSTRIAL LAND AND
INSTEAD THERE'S A BLACK CLOUD
OF UNCERTAINTY OVER THE BOARD OF
SEATTLE AND CUSTOMERS. PLANNING
20 OR 30 YEARS OUT AND HAVING TO
CONTINUALLY GUESS WHAT THE CITY
IS DOING CREATES UNCERTAINTY .
FINALLY WE ASKED CITY JOIN THE
MARITIME WORKERS AND THE PORT OF
SEATTLE AND THE FARMERS AND
EVERYBODY ELSE ASSOCIATED WITH
THE COURT AND THE JOBS . THAT WE
CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE OF
CERTAINTY FOR LOCAL, STATE ,
INTERNATIONAL CUSTOMERS THAT
DEPEND ON OUR PORT. SIMPLY, OUR
JOBS DEPEND ON THE PORT. THANK
YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. MY NAME
IS DAN KELLY AND I CURRENTLY
SERVE AS THE CHAIR FOR THE
ADVISORY BOARD. I'M A NEW
RESIDENT TO THE SEATTLE AREA.
I'VE BEEN HERE SIX YEARS TOTAL
IN FOR MY DAY JOB I WORK FOR A
DOMESTIC BARGE OPERATION THAT
SERVES ALASKA AND HAWAII AND
I'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR 36
YEARS NOW. WE OWN AND OPERATE
100 ACRES OF PROPERTY WHICH IS
WHERE WE GO OUT. IT'S A
CRITICAL LINK TO THE AREAS
CONNECTING TO THE REGION
INTERNATIONALLY . THROUGH
GROCERIES AND EVERYTHING THEY
CONSUME AS WELL AS THE PRODUCT
THAT THEY CAN SELL AND WHATNOT.
AS FAR AS THE FREIGHT ADVISORY
BOARD , I'M SURE THE COUNCIL
HAS RECEIVED AND READ THE LETTER
PROVIDED FOR THEM AND I DON'T
INC. I NEED TO GO THROUGH THE
TALKING POINTS TO REPEAT THEM
TODAY. AS FAR AS TRUCKING IN THE
REGION GOES , AND EFFECTIVE
SUPPLY CHAIN AND TRUCKING
OPERATION RELIES ON
DEPENDABILITY . I DON'T THINK
WE CAN DESCRIBE THE REGION AS
BEING PREDICTABLE THAT WE GO TO
DOWN THERE . THERE IS LOTS OF
DISTURBANCES THAT WE HAVE . WE
WANT TO PROTECT THE MAJOR TRUCK
LANES THAT WE HAVE GOT AND THAT
WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND MAINTAIN
IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONES. TO
PROTECT THOSE THAT WE HAVE.
ADDING ANY RESIDENTIAL TO A
MAJOR TRUCK LANE IS GOING TO
CAUSE DISRUPTION. THAT IS GOING
TO BE THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT WILL
CAUSE MAJOR DISRUPTION AND
ACCESS TO THE WORK. WHEN I THINK
OF THIS ISSUE, I DON'T THINK OF
THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE BUT FROM
SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE
HAVE SET MOVING FORWARD AND HOW
THAT COULD FURTHER ERODE THE
MAJOR TRUCK LANES. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE .
>> THANK YOU . I WANT TO THANK
THE PANELISTS WITH BACKUP . AND
YOUR TESTIMONY IS REALLY
IMPORTANT . I ALSO WANTED TO
NOTE WE DO HAVE A BRIEFING THAT
I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT INTO THE
RECORD . EVERYONE HAS A HARD
COPY HERE AND WE CAN DO THAT
SEPARATELY . IT HIGHLIGHTS THE
THINGS OUT THERE PUBLICLY AND IT
HIGHLIGHTS THE ISSUES REGARDING
THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE SOTO
MARITIME INDUSTRIAL AREAS , SO
THANK YOU . I REALLY APPRECIATE
THE THINGS PEOPLE HAVE SAID
HERE. AND IN ADDITION TO THANK
YOU ALL , I WOULD LIKE THINK
EVERYBODY WHO'S COME FROM THE
PORT BUT ALSO THE MAKERS FROM
THE BUILDINGS AND TRADES.
CONSULTANTS, I APPRECIATE
EVERYONE COMING . REPORTERS
COMING AND PRESENTING AND
SPEAKING THEIR TRUTHS BECAUSE
THERE ARE A LOT OF TRUTHS HERE.
WE DO NEED HOUSING AND AREAS FOR
A MAKERS DISTRICT . I BELIEVE
THERE ARE OTHER AREAS WHERE WE
CAN DO THAT. TO INCLUDE
POTENTIALLY IN SOTO WAREHOUSING
IS A CHALLENGE. IT IS IMPORTANT
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I SAY TO
MY COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME AS WE
DO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY
INCORPORATE AMENDMENTS FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY SO, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR COMING OUT . I ALSO
WANT TO NOTE I APPRECIATE THAT
YOU SEE MY POSITION STEPPING
THROUGH SOME OF THE MAIN AREAS .
IT HAS BEEN CLEAR IN THE LAST
MEETING. I THINK IT IS REALLY
THEM WHARTON'S FOR TWO POINTS
TO UNDERSTAND AND COMMISSION
PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE YOU
HIGHLIGHTING THE PIECE. THERE
ARE MAJOR HEADWINDS WE ARE
FACING. ALSO THE UNCERTAINTY .
WE ARE IN COMPETITION WITH THE
WORLD. WE HAVE SOME ADVANTAGE
WITH A DEEP WATER. FURTHER
NORTH. EVERYBODY PROBABLY KNOWS
GREAT CIRCLE ROUTE BUT DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHAT AN ADVANTAGE
THAT IS TO L.A. AND LONG BEACH,
FOR EXAMPLE. WE NEED TO BE
ENSURING WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
OUR ADVANTAGES BECAUSE THERE ARE
SO MANY CHALLENGES AND WE HAVE
SO MUCH COMPETITION AND WE NEED
TO BE SET FOR SUCCESS . BECAUSE
OF THAT, THERE IS NOT MUCH
FREEBOARD LEFT. IF SHIPS ENTERED
UP AT ANCHORAGE OR BECAUSE THE
MOBILITY SIDE WAS NOT THERE ,
THAT SHOWS UP IN STATISTICS .
THE SHIPPING INDUSTRY IS BRUTAL
AND DECISION-MAKERS ARE BRUTAL
AT THE DISCRETIONARY PORT . SO,
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANYBODY TO
DELVE MORE INTO IT . IT'S A
POINT THAT IS NOT UNDERSTOOD IN
TERMS OF THE CHALLENGES THE
SHIPPING INDUSTRY PRESENTS FOR
SEATTLE. AND MIKE I ADD AT THE
PORT OF SEATTLE AND THE
NORTHWEST . AS WE SAW , IT
DOESN'T TAKE MUCH WITH L.A.
FIRES TO THE SOUTH BUT TOOK OUT
L.A. AND LONG BEACH, THIS IS
IMPORTANT FOR OUR NATION . CAN
WE SPEAK TO THE CHALLENGES FROM
A BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
MY NAME IS DON ESTABROOK AND I
AM DEPUTY CEO AT THE ALLIANCE.
WELL SAID , THE COMPETITION IS
FIERCE . BACKING UP JUST A
LITTLE BIT , WHAT WE ARE FACED
WITH RIGHT NOW IS AN OPPORTUNITY
TO TAKE IT VANTAGE OF OUR VERY
STRONG VALUE PROPOSITION . IN
THE SHORT TERM, THE TRADE
VOLUMES HAVE BEEN FLOWING . OVER
THE LONG-TERM, LOOSING WORLD
TRADE CONTINUE TO GROW . WE HAVE
TO ENSURE WE ARE IN THE RIGHT
POSITION TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THAT AND WE ARE. THE STRATEGY
WITH VOLUME THROUGH THE PORT OF
SEATTLE THROUGH THE NEXT FIVE
YEARS. THE REASON WE FEEL SO
BULLISH IS THE FACT WE HAVE
ADVANTAGES WE JUST HIGHLIGHTED.
OUR PROXIMITY TO ASIA AND THE
DEEPWATER PORTS AND CONNECTIVITY
TO THE RAILROADS. MOST
IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE THE
AVAILABLE CAPACITY TODAY TO
DEPLOY AND THE ABILITY TO EXPAND
INTO THE FUTURE. BUT, AS
COMMISSIONER HASEGAWA SAID ,
THERE ARE CHOICES AND IF WE ARE
NOT ABLE TO OFFER CUSTOMERS A
HIGHLY EFFICIENT, RELIABLE, AND
CONSISTENT SERVICE, THEY HAVE
ALTERNATIVES . WE HAVE
ALTERNATIVES . THERE ARE
COMPETITIVE PORTS UP AND DOWN
THE WEST COAST . WITHIN OUR OWN
REGION, WE HAVE FORMIDABLE
COMPETITION WITH VANCOUVER , BC
INTO THE NORTH, PRINCE RUPERT .
>> AND I INTERRUPT YOU JUST A
MOMENT. YOU ARE NOT LISTED ON
THE AGENDA AND I HAVE GIVEN
GRACE BY ALLOWING MORE
PRESENTERS TO AMPLIFY
INFORMATION THAT THE PRESENTERS
DON'T HAVE. SO, PLEASE , ANSWER
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE'S QUESTION
SOON .
>> WE ARE IN A POSITION OF
GROWTH WITH A STRONG VALUE
PROPOSITION. THE COMPETITION IS
FIERCE AND IF WE CANNOT DELIVER
BEST IN CLASS SERVICE, THEY WILL
FIND A PORT THAT CAN .
>> I WILL POINT OUT THAT TO
COMPETE FOR MARKET SHARE IN THE
GLOBAL ECONOMY, WE HAVE TO OFFER
BEST IN CLASS SERVICE . PART OF
THE COMPONENTS TO BEST IN CLASS
SERVICE IS AVAILABILITY AND TURN
TIME FOR TRUCKERS TO PICK UP AND
DROP OFF THEIR LOADS TO THEIR
DESTINATION IN THE MIDDLE OF
WASHINGTON STATE AND THROUGHOUT
THE COUNTRY. THE FIRST FIVE
MILES IN AND OF FIVE MILES OUT
OF THE PORT OF SEATTLE ARE THE
HARDEST TO GET THROUGH. THERE IS
ACTUALLY INTERACTIVE LIVE
DASHBOARDS THAT CUSTOMERS CAN
LOOK AT TO DECIDE HOW LONG OUR
TURN TIMES ARE. WE HAVE TO BE
ABLE TO PITCH AND SELL THE
CERTAINTY OF OPERATIONAL
EFFICIENCY . WE ARE HAPPY TO
BRING YOU ON TOURS AND MANY OF,
AND SOME HAVE NOT . IT IS A
COMPLEX LOGISTICAL OPERATION AND
IT REQUIRES ALL OF US DOING OUR
PART AS PART OF THOSE MANEUVERS.
SO, WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO
ACTIVELY ATTRACT CUSTOMERS TO BE
ABLE TO IMPROVE VOLUME THROUGH
OUR GATEWAY. IF YOU LOOK AT IT
FROM ASIA'S POINT OF VIEW AND
IF THEY GET NO TARIFFS GOING
THROUGH CANADA OR BETTER
EFFICIENCY THROUGH CALIFORNIA,
WE WILL BE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE.
THE ONLY LINE OF BUSINESS WE
HAVE BUILT INTO OUR BUSINESS
MODEL IS OUR AG PRODUCERS IN
WASHINGTON STATE WHO GO OUT
THROUGH THE NORTH HARBOR . WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL STATE
ECONOMY AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. AND IN RESPONSE,
THIS IS WHERE I KEEP COMING BACK
TO THE EIS THE SAID A LIMITED
AMOUNT OF HOUSING WOULD NOT
CAUSE AND EFFECT ON NEARBY
ACTIVITY WITH THIS WHOLE TRAFFIC
PIECE AND BEING ABLE TO GET YOUR
FREIGHT THROUGH. THE EIS SAID
THAT HAVING LIMITED HOUSING
WOULD NOT IMPACT THAT AND IT
SEEMS TO BE INCONGRUOUS WITH
WHAT THE EIS SHOWS. SO, THIS IS
A PIECE -- AND YOU DID NOT
APPEAL THE EIS . SO IT SEEMS TO
BE NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE
EIS SHOWED . SO, I FEEL LIKE IS
IT JUST THE -- I HEAR YOU ARE
DISAGREEING WITH THE EIS THAT WE
DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
STUDIES TO SHOW WHAT IS TRULY
GOING TO BE -- YOU KNOW, WHAT WE
CAN SEE IN TERMS OF ADVERSE
EFFECTS. SO, YOU SEEM TO -- YOU
ARE DISAGREEING WITH THE EIS AND
WHAT WE TO GO ON WHEN WE MAKE
THESE DECISIONS ARE THE
IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
STATEMENTS. SO, I AM STRUGGLING
WITH THAT PIECE OF THIS BECAUSE
YOU ARE GOING BACK TO THE
FREIGHT PIECE WHICH SEEMS TO BE
THE MAIN PIECE AND IT IS
INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HEARD
FROM THE EIS .
>> I'M HAPPY TO CLARIFY. SO, TO
BE CLEAR , THE FREIGHT MOBILITY
IS ALREADY A CHALLENGE. MAKING
CHANGES ACROSS FROM OUR PRIMARY
FREIGHT ROUTE AND ARE HEAVY HAUL
CORRIDOR WILL EXACERBATE THOSE
PROBLEMS . WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT
ACTIVATION IN SOTO AND OTHER
AREAS AND CAN HAVE THE BROADER
CONVERSATION BUT IT SHOULD BE
PART OF A MORE COMPREHENSIVE
CONVERSATION. THIS LEGISLATION
IS NOT THAT. THIS IS A HUMPTY
DUMPTY APPROACH TO BREAK APART
THE INDUSTRIAL LANDS PIECE BY
PIECE AND YEAR AFTER YEAR TO THE
POINT WHERE WE CANNOT PUT THEM
BACK TOGETHER AGAIN . MY
QUESTION FOR YOU IS IF WE ARE
COMING TO THE TABLE TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT
THESE OPERATED STATIONS LIKE THE
MAKER'S ZONE AND THE COURT HAS
COMPROMISED TIME AND TIME AGAIN
AND THAT'S WHAT WE CAME TO
HOTELS BACK IN 2023 . BUT, YOU
KNOW, THIS LEGISLATION DOES NOT
ALLOW THE TIMELINE FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO DO THAT.
>> YOU HAVE A QUICK FOLLOW-UP ?
>> I DO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP BECAUSE
THIS COMPROMISE PIECE TOO , YOU
TALK ABOUT HAVING A DEAL AND WE
HEARD LAST TIME ABOUT THIS DEAL
. THE DEAL, IN AND OF ITSELF, IS
THAT THE LAST MINUTE DEAL WHERE
THE ORIGINAL MAYOR'S
ALTERNATIVE WAS CHANGE SEEMINGLY
AT THE LAST MINUTE, IT SOUNDS
LIKE ? IS THAT THE DEAL YOU ARE
REFERRING TO? IS IT A DIFFERENT
DEAL? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND
OUT WHAT THE DEAL IS THAT HAS
BEEN RAISED?
>> IT IS THE DEAL THAT WAS
AGREED UPON AT THE FISHERMAN'S
TERMINAL THAT WAS SIGNED INTO
LAW. IT SAID AN AGREEMENT AND AN
EXPECTATION WITH WHAT THE
INDUSTRIAL LANDS WOULD LOOK
LIKE. WITH WHAT THE PORT OF
SEATTLE WOULD NEED TO SATISFY
WITH THE LOST INDUSTRIAL LANDS
WITH THE CERTAINTY THIS IS NOT
GOING TO COME UP YEAR AFTER YEAR
AFTER YEAR. A TRAIL OF
BREADCRUMBS DOES NOT EXUDE
TRANSPARENCY OR CONFIDENCE IN
WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO COME TO
AGREE WITH AND IT WILL JUST COME
BACK NEXT YEAR .
>> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
GETTING BACK TO --
>> FIRST, LET ME SAY THAT THIS
ISSUE OF THE IMPACT ASSOCIATED
WITH HOUSING IN THE STADIUM
DISTRICT AND TRYING TO GET TO
THE BOTTOM OF IT WAS WHAT I WAS
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND THAT
WAS MY MAIN QUESTION IN 2023.
BECAUSE, IF I WERE CONVINCED
FROM THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE
PRODUCED LEADING UP TO THE
LEGISLATION IN THE EIS, I WOULD
NOT BE TRYING TO DO THIS. OF
COURSE, IF THERE WERE EVIDENCE
THIS WOULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT
ADVERSE IMPACTS ON PORT
OPERATIONS AS AN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND SOMEONE
COMMITTED TO ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AND TRYING
TO GET SMALL BUSINESSES AND
INDUSTRIAL JOBS , I WOULD NOT BE
DOING THIS. THAT IS WHY WE ARE
PRESSING ON THIS WHOLE WIDE
INSURED FEEL THE EIS . THE
IMPACTS ON FREIGHT , ESPECIALLY
FROM EASTERN WASHINGTON IS THE
MAIN ISSUE -- WELL, IT'S ONE OF
THE -- LET'S SAY IT IS THE MAIN
ISSUE OF THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR
OPPOSITION. SO, IT SEEMS THAT
CONCLUSION FROM THE TRAFFIC
ANALYSIS IN THE EIS WOULD BE THE
THING THAT THE PORT WOULD
DEFINITELY TRY TO APPEAL . SO,
MAYBE -- I HAD A QUESTION FOR
THE FREIGHT MOBILITY FOLKS. DO
AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS -- I SAY
THAT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A LOT
OF THE COMMENT, AND I CERTAINLY
WANT MALT AND HOPS DELIVERED TO
THE WATERFRONT. WHAT ROUTES DO
AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS TAKE WHEN
THEY GET FROM I-92 T-5 OR TO THE
GRANARY ?
>> THE GRANARY , THEY COME BY
TRAIN .
>> OKAY .
>> OKAY, THEY COME BY TRAIN. THE
SR 519 CORRIDOR IS THE FASTEST
WAY . LITERALLY, IF YOU'RE
GOING EAST, YOU ARE THREE LIGHTS
AWAY .
>> SO WALK IT THROUGH FOR PEOPLE
WHO DON'T HAVE A MAP .
>> THE GOAL IS TO GET TWO TRIPS
A DAY INTO THE CITY AND INTO THE
TERMINALS TO DROP OFF THEIR
PRODUCT. SO, GETTING THERE THE
FASTEST WAY IS THROUGH SR 519 .
THOSE BROUGHT UP HOUSING DOWN
THERE, RIGHT ? WE HAVEN'T EVEN
SEEN THE EFFECT OF THE
ADDITIONAL ZONING THAT HAS BEEN
ADDED TO THE AREA . I MEAN,
THERE IS NO PLANS TO GET
PEDESTRIANS ACROSS SR 519 WHEN
THERE IS FREIGHT EXCEPT FOR ONE
CROSSWALK . THE OTHER THING IS
IF YOU PUT HOUSING DOWN THERE,
THERE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
ELSE THERE YOU DON'T HAVE
CHURCHES AND YOU DON'T HAVE
SCHOOLS AND YOU DON'T HAVE
GROCERY STORES. YOU DON'T HAVE
THE BASICS. IT'S NOT A GREAT
PLACE FOR HOUSING . GAVE SEEN AN
EXAMPLE OF SOUTHLAKE UNION WHERE
THEY CHANGE THE ZONING THERE.
AND MARITIME HAD TO STOP A SHIFT
BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY
COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES
THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON THERE
FOR 100 YEARS. THEY ENDED UP
MOVING OUT OF THAT TERMINAL .
WHEN YOU ADD PEOPLE THAT LIVE
THERE YEAR ROUND , THEY ARE
GOING TO HAVE COMPLAINTS AND
THAT'S NORMAL. THAT'S WHY WE
ALWAYS WANT TO BUFFER. BETWEEN
THE PORT AND HOUSING . BECAUSE
WHEN THEY BUY THEIR PROPERTY,
THERE IS LIGHTS AND THERE IS
NOISE AND IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.
YOU KNOW , THE WHOLE ZONING DOWN
THERE , THERE IS A HIGHER
THRESHOLD OF NOISE THAT CAN BE
ALLOWED. DO YOU THINK THOSE
PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO COMPLAIN
ABOUT THE HIGHER THRESHOLD AND
COME BACK TO TRY TO GET THAT
CHANGED?
>> I APPRECIATE THAT, BEFORE YOU
CONTINUE, DAD -- MR. KELLY, YOU
ARE THE FREIGHT ADVISORY . WHEN
THEY COME DOWN 518 OR SOMETIMES
590 TEEN TO GET TO T-5, WHAT DO
THEY DO AFTER THAT ?
>> I'M NOT PART OF THE
INTERNATIONAL .
>> OKAY .
>> I DO DOMESTIC CARRIER THAT'S
COMING THROUGH.
>> ONCE WE GET THE GREAT PROJECT
DONE AND THE HEAVY HAUL CORRIDOR
AS WELL , THESE GO WEST UNTIL
THEY MAKE A LEFT. THEY EITHER GO
TO 40 -- WELL THEY CAN GO
STRAIGHT INTO 46 FROM THERE.
THEN 18 AND 35 TO AVOID THE
TRAFFIC ON I CO-5 .
>> SO RIGHT NOW THEY TAKE FIRST
?
>> TO GET TO TERMINAL 5, RIGHT
NOW THEY USE THE THREE WAY , BUT
THIS IS A ROUTE THEY CAN USE
WHEN THE FREEWAY IS BACKED UP.
>> I WENT ON A TOUR AND I'LL
HAVE EVERYBODY KNOW I WENT ON
THE TOUR AND I LEARNED A GREAT
DEAL. THERE ARE TRUCKS ON FIRST
AND A LOT OF OTHER TRAFFIC AS
WELL .
>>
>> I DID SIGNAL THAT YOU
MENTIONED THE IMPACTS OF THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THERE AND
COULD LIVE THERE . I AGREE IT IS
A HEALTH AND EQUITY ISSUE . THE
URBAN INDUSTRIAL ZONE DOES COME
WITH SEVERAL CONDITIONS . IT'S
A LOT OF CONDITIONS BUT WHEN IT
COMES TO NOISE , ALL DWELLING
UNITS MUST HAVE SOUND INSULATING
WINDOWS SUFFICIENT TO MAINTAIN
INTERIOR SOUND LEVELS WITH
EXISTING NOISE LEVEL CONTROLS AT
THE SITE . AND THEN THE ANALYSIS
OF EXISTING NOISE LEVELS AND THE
CAPACITIES OF THE WINDOW
CAPACITY . ALL DWELLING UNITS
SHOULD HAVE A PERMANENTLY
INSTALLED AIR COOLING SYSTEM AND
A BALANCED VENTILATION SYSTEM
WHICH MAY BE COMBINED. IT WILL
FILTER OUTDOOR AIR SUPPLIED
THROUGH FILTERS RATED M ERV 13
OR HIGHER AS RECOMMENDED BY THE
SOCIETY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
IT HAS TO BE LOCATED IN A
CERTAIN WAY. REALLY, WHAT I
THINK THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK
FOR THIS AMENDMENT UNTIL IT WAS
POINTED OUT THAT IT'S ALREADY
IN HERE. AS POINTED OUT THAT THE
OWNER MUST ENTER THE RESIDENTIAL
BUILDING MUST AGREE TO TWO
COVENANTS BASICALLY SAYING THAT
THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS
THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE
ARE -- THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THE
CONDITIONS EXIST. THAT IS WHAT
SOME PEOPLE IN PUBLIC COMMENT
AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR
AND IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT A
GOOD THING TO HAVE RESIDENTS
OPPOSING THE CONDITIONS TO WHICH
THEY LIVE . THAT IS AN ISSUE
THAT COULD COME UP WHEN A BLOCK
WAS REMOVED AND TURNED INTO
RESIDENTIAL USE AND I DO
UNDERSTAND THAT. GO AHEAD .
>> WITH ALL THOSE CONDITIONS,
DOESN'T THAT KIND OF POINT TO
THE INCOMPATIBILITY OF THOSE
AREAS?
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT .
>> YEAH, IT DOES AND SO THERE
ARE BUILDINGS . WHAT ABOUT THE
TERRAZZO ? IT IS TRUE THAT THERE
ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN BINDER
SQUARE WHICH IS THE SAME THING .
WHEN THIS WAS WORKED OUT WITH
THE MAYOR'S TEAM AND THE
STAKEHOLDERS, THE CONDITIONS
WERE APPLIED TO THE URBAN
INDUSTRIAL ZONE TO ACCOMMODATE
THE CONST THE PROCESS DURING THE
PROCESS.
>> I APPRECIATE WHICH IS TO YOU
QUICK POINTS TO CLOSE ME OUT.
THE FIRST IS THAT I UNDERSTAND
THE POINT REGARDING THE FEIS AND
I THINK THE F STANDS FOR FLAWED
. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM
THE FREIGHT ADVISORY BOARD
REGARDING THE TRANSIT AND DOING
ALL THESE THINGS TO ENSURE THE
JUST-IN-TIME CAPABILITY FOR ALL
THE REASONS MENTIONED FOR BEING
A DISCRETIONARY BOARD. ON THE
ENVIRONMENTAL PIECE , IN THE
LAST MEETING I TALKED ABOUT THE
LOVE CANAL WHICH IS A SUPERFUND
SITE AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE
HAVE THE LOVE CANAL BUT THERE'S
A SUPERFUND SITE TO THE SOUTH
AND WEST AND ONE NEVER KNOWS
EXACTLY THE CHALLENGES. BUT
LET'S JUST LOOK AT NOISE AND
AIR. THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM . I
UNDERSTAND THERE IS COVENANTS
AND AGAIN THERE ARE MILITARY
FOLKS OUT HERE AND THOSE
COVENANTS ARE NOT GOING TO MEET
ANYTHING, PARTICULARLY AFTER
TIME GOES BY. LOOK AT MILITARY
BASES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WE
DON'T HAVE TO GO FAR . THE
NAVAL AIR STATION THAT WHIDBEY
ISLAND GETS HIT AGAIN AND AGAIN
. AND EACH DEED SAYS THERE IS A
NAVAL AIR STATION AND PRACTICE
FIELD AND THAT GETS IGNORED . I
CAN SEE HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF
IN SOTO. I THINK IT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT IS A
VERY VALUED ARGUMENT TO SAY,
HEY, WE HAVE A MASSIVE 23
INDUSTRIAL LEGISLATION -- I MEAN
IT WAS PASSED IN '23 . WITH THE
CHANGES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT
LEGISLATION , I THINK THAT IS
REALLY IMPORTANT . IT DOESN'T
EVEN MENTION, REALLY , OR I
SHOULD SAY DOESN'T TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT WHAT THE COAST GUARD IS
GOING TO DO. THE COAST GUARD IS
HUGE AND LIKE THE 800 POUND
GORILLA HERE. AND THE EIGHT
ENVIRONMENTAL PIECES ARE ANOTHER
800 POUND GORILLA . AND I WANT
TO END ON ONE LAST THING. TRUST
ME, I AM LOOKING TO CHANGE
LEGISLATION AND WE JUST PASSED
LAST WEEK A WEAPONS BILL WITH
TWO IMPORTANT PIECES OF
LEGISLATION DONE IN YEARS PAST
AND NOT THE TWO DISTANT PAST. I
UNDERSTAND THERE WERE OTHER
THINGS . THE LEGISLATION IS LIKE
A COMMERCIAL CONTRACT, ALMOST. I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HONOR
THAT CONTRACT. TO GIVE THAT
STABILITY . YOU KNOW, THE POINT
, AGAIN, THE POINT ABOUT
UNCERTAINTY IS WE NEED THE
ATMOSPHERE OF CERTAINTY . THAT
IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN
ESSENTIAL COMMERCIAL CONTRACT
HONORED . I KNOW IT IS A LITTLE
DIFFERENT AND I KNOW WE DO
CHANGE LEGISLATION AND PUBLIC
SAFETY, WE ARE DOING IT . WHEN
IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL PIECES
THAT IMPACT BUSINESSES , MAJOR
BUSINESSES AND NOT JUST PIECES
HERE AND THERE , 30% OF THE
REVENUE IN GOOD TIMES AND BAD .
THAT IS SO HELPFUL WHEN WE GO
THROUGH THE GREAT RECEPTION OR A
GLOBAL PANDEMIC . THESE ARE
THINGS I LOOK AT . THANK YOU
COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY . I THINK IT IS
VALID IN TERMS OF THE DEMOCRATIC
PROCESS . IT IS IMPORTANT HAVE
THE SPEAKERS HERE TODAY. I ADMIT
THERE IS TWO ADDITIONAL ONES , I
UNDERSTAND THAT . BUT I THINK IT
IS IMPORTANT THAT IN ADDITION TO
THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IT IS
MASSIVELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE
PANEL ON THIS TOPIC,
PARTICULARLY AS IT COMES OUT OF
THE MASSIVE LEGISLATION THAT OUR
COLLEAGUE COUNCILMEMBERS DID NOT
TOO LONG AGO . THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY.
>> AND COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS HAS
HIS HAND UP AS WELL.
>> DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND
BEFORE OR AFTER ?
>> HE CAN GO AHEAD BECAUSE I'VE
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY .
>> I HAVE TWO STATEMENTS AND SIX
QUESTIONS , JUST SO WE KNOW
WHERE WE ARE AT . AND, A
CLARIFICATION AND I WILL ADD TO
THAT . CLARIFYING WHAT I BELIEVE
THAT DAN McKISSON SAID THAT THE
FASTEST WAY INTO THE PORT IS SR
519 . FOR EVERYONE ELSE IN THE
CITY, THAT IS EDWARD MARTINEZ
WAY. AND DIRECTLY CONNECTED BY
ALASKA WAY , TO SAY THAT IS
WHERE YOU WOULD GO TO GET TO T-5
IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THE FIXES
ARE UNDERWAY TO IMPROVE THE
TRANSPORTATION IF VISION C . I
ASKED, HOW WOULD YOU GET THERE
TODAY DURING A CONSTRUCTION
PROJECT ? IT'S LIKE ASKING HOW
WOULD YOU GET DOWN THE SIDEWALK
BEING BUILT? ASKING HOW WE GET
TO THE GRAIN TERMINAL IS LIKE
ASKING HOW WOULD YOU GET YOUR
TRUCKS TO THE AIRPORT ? TODAY WE
ARE FOCUSED ON T-46 . I'M NOT
TALKING ABOUT SMITH COVE TODAY .
THAT IS MY CLARIFICATION. THIS
STATEMENT IS THAT INDUSTRIAL
IMPORT ACTIVITIES ARE THE BACK
BONE OF OUR ECONOMIC STRENGTH
HERE IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
OVER THE COURSE OF THE RECESSION
THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE IN THE
DOWNSTREAM ECONOMIC IMPACTS FROM
THE PANDEMIC . SEATTLE HAS
UNDERPERFORMED NATIONAL AVERAGES
IN EVERY SINGLE SECT OR EXCEPT
FOR PORT AND INDUSTRIAL
ACTIVITIES WHICH STAKE CONSTANT
YEAR OVER YEAR. THEY DON'T GET
REALLY HIGH AND THEY DON'T GET
REALLY LOW. DURING ECONOMIC
TIMES, IT IS EASY TO OVERLOOK
THE BACK BORN OF OUR STRENGTH
WHICH IS POURED AND INDUSTRIAL
ACTIVITIES . IT IS LITERALLY
WHAT WE HAVE A LINE ON TO
BALANCE OUR BOOKS . AND
STATEMENT NUMBER TWO, MR. KELLY
, I THINK YOU UNDERSOLD WHAT YOU
DO . I SAY THAT BECAUSE ALASKA
IS THE CONNECTION TO ALASKA.
BEYOND I-90 CONNECTING TO
WESTERN WASHINGTON, IT CONNECTS
US TO THE WILDERNESS COMMUNITIES
OF ALASKA. I'M KIND OF PROUD
BECAUSE WHILE SOME OF THE
BIGGEST TECH COMPANIES ARE
LOCATED AND HEADQUARTERED IN
DISTRICT 7 , DISTRICT 6 HAS THE
LARGEST THE FRUIT PRODUCER IN
THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS
WESTERN TUGBOAT WHICH BUILDS
THEIR OWN TUGBOATS . THEY BUILD
THOSE BOATS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND
YOU ARE THE CONNECTION TO
COMMUNITIES IN ALASKA . THE LAST
TIME I CHECKED, IT IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO FLY A FREEZER OR AN
APPLIANCE INTO AN ALASKAN
AIRPORT . THANK YOU FOR
CONNECTING SEATTLE TO ALASKA.
SO, I'VE GOT QUESTIONS AND THEY
ARE STATED IN PAST, PRESENT, AND
FUTURE .
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS , I
ASKED THAT YOU HONOR THE RULES
YOU SET OUT IN YOUR MEETINGS
WHEN AND OTHER MEETINGS . SO,
COULD YOU ASK THEM ALL TOGETHER
AT ONCE AND PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF
THE TIME ?
>> AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT , YOU
BROUGHT THAT UP A NUMBER OF
TIMES. TO CLARIFY, I ALLOWED
EVERYONE TO SPEAK FOR THEIR
DURATION AND IF SOMEONE WANTED
TO SPEAK THAT HADN'T SPOKE , I
DID THAT. IF YOU WANT TO ASK ONE
QUESTION AND COME BACK TO MY
OTHER FIVE COME I'M HAPPY TO DO
THAT BUT I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ASK
ON THE RECORD TODAY .
>> GO AHEAD AND ASK THEM ALL .
>> WITH DUE RESPECT --
>> PLEASE DO NOT INTERRUPT . YOU
ASKED ME A QUESTION AND WE WILL
GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH ALL OF
YOUR QUESTIONS AND LEAVE THEM ON
THE TABLE BUT WE DO HAVE OTHER
QUESTIONS TO GET TO .
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AS I
STATED I WILL ASK ONE AT A TIME
. I DO HAVE ABOUT SIX QUESTIONS
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK.
>> SO, THIS IS CLARIFYING AND WE
ARE GOING TO THE PAST. ONE OF
THE THINGS I HEARD TODAY WAS THE
COMPROMISE AND DAN McKISSON, YOU
DIDN'T LIKE IT THEN AND YOU
DIDN'T LIKE IT NOW.
>> HERE IS THE QUESTION , I KEEP
HEARING THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT IF
IT WAS SO BAD THEN , WHY WASN'T
THE EIS APPEALED? I'M GOING TO
REPEAT BACK WHAT I THINK I HEARD
WHICH IS THAT THE EIS WAS NOT
APPEALED BECAUSE THERE WAS AN
AGREEMENT MADE THAT HOUSING
WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE 2023
FINAL PRODUCT . THE REASON THAT
WAS NOT APPEALED WHEN THE APPEAL
WAS OPEN WAS BECAUSE THAT WOULD
HAVE DELAYED THIS PROCESS EVEN
FURTHER AND POTENTIALLY UNDONE
THIS ENTIRE NEARLY A DECADE
COMPROMISE. SO, THAT IS GETTING
BACK TO WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY,
DAN, WHICH IS YOU DIDN'T LIKE
THE COMPROMISE THEN, AND I KNOW
THAT BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME VERY
CHOICE WORDS FOR ME. A HARD
CONVERSATION, BUT WE ARE STILL
SITTING HERE . THAT IS WHEN WE
TALKED ABOUT THIS TRANSPORTATION
RESOLUTION . IT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THE TRANSPORTATION
DYNAMICS ON THE ROAD ARE NOT
WORKING TODAY MUCH LESS WITH ANY
CHANGE . SO, THAT IS MY QUESTION
HERE. BEYOND AND WITHIN THAT ,
THE COMPROMISE THAT IS CENTRAL
TO ME AS I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR
YOU DID NOT WANT HOTELS ALLOWED
AND THERE ARE NO HOTELS ALLOWED?
DID I UNDERSTAND WITH THE EIS
PROCESS, YOU CAN YOU SHARE THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOTELS AND
HOUSING AND CAN YOU GIVE ME A
SUMMARY BACK FROM THAT EIS
CONVERSATION , WHY WAS IT THAT
WE DIDN'T DO THE TRANSPORTATION
RESOLUTION ?
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER .
FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY I WAS
REPRESENTING LOCAL NIGHT TEEN.
IT WAS NOT MY DECISION AND I
HAVE A MANDATE TO PROTECT
INDUSTRIAL LANDS AT ALL COSTS AS
IF OUR JOBS DEPEND ON IT. THE
EIS, I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN .
WHEN WE TOLD THUS LE
CAME OUT AND THERE WAS NO
HOUSING IN THE STADIUM AREA ,
THERE IS OTHER STUFF IN THERE WE
DIDN'T LIKE ME HAD LONG
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT . THEN
THE HOTEL COMPROMISE CAME UP AND
WE WERE FURIOUS BECAUSE WE
DON'T SEE IT AS COMPATIBLE DOWN
THERE EITHER . AND WITH THE CITY
THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BUILD ONE
. THEY BUILT THE MARINERS HOTEL
AND FIRST WITH 519 OR EDGAR
MARTINEZ WAY OR WHATEVER YOU
WANT TO CALL IT. ARE YOU GOING
TO BUILD SIDEWALKS FOR THE OTHER
POTENTIAL HOTELS. THERE IS NO
FUTURE PLANNING TO GET
PEDESTRIANS ACROSS THE MAJOR
FREIGHT CORRIDOR . THE
COMPROMISE WE WORKED ON WAS THE
RESOLUTION TO STEP BACK AND TO
SEE HOW THE NONINDUSTRIAL USE IS
IMPACTED IN THE AREA AND WE HAVE
NOT GOTTEN TO THAT POINT , I
HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION
.
>> YES, COUNCIL PRESIDENT WOULD
YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE WITH MY
QUESTIONS NOW?
>> YOU CAN GO AHEAD .
>> SOUNDS GOOD, SOUNDS GOOD .
>> THIS IS STEMMING OFF OF THAT
. IN 2023 AND THIS IS MY LAST IN
THE PAST QUESTION AND AFTER THIS
I MOVED TO THE PRESENT . IF
THERE HAD BEEN AN AMENDMENT AND
SO IT WAS TRANSMITTED WITHOUT
HOUSING IN THE STADIUM
TRANSITION OVERLAY DISTRICT , IF
THERE HAD BEEN AN AMENDMENT
EITHER BY MYSELF OR ANYONE ELSE
WHO IS SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE,
WHAT WOULD THAT HAVE DONE TO
THAT CONVERSATION? WOULD IT
CHANGE THE COURT 'S POSITION ON
THE CITYWIDE COMPROMISE ? WOULD
WE BE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT
COMPROMISE. I KNOW YOU WERE
WORKING ON THE PROJECT AT THAT
POINT . I KNOW YOU DON'T SPEAK
FOR THE PORT, NECESSARILY,
TODAY, BUT THAT IS MY QUESTION .
2023 , WE ARE NEGOTIATING THIS
AND THE EIS HAS IMPACTS ON THE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK WHICH I
DISAGREE WITH. IT IS TRANSMITTED
BUT DOES NOT HAVE HOUSING AND IF
HOUSING IS ADDED BACK IN AS AN
AMENDMENT, WHERE IN THE
CONVERSATION? WOULD WE HAVE
GOTTEN AN AGREEMENT ?
>> I AM SURPRISED THERE IS SO
MUCH FOCUS ON A LACK OF APPEAL
AND THE PROCESS RESULTED IN A
PACKAGE THAT ALL SIDES COULD
SUPPORT AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS AN
INCREDIBLY GOOD OUTCOME. WE
DIDN'T LIKE THE EIS WITH 22
PAGES OF CONCERNS ABOUT IT . THE
TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS TOOK ON
AN AREA WIDE PROGRAMMATIC
ANALYSIS WITH SPECIFIC PROPOSALS
ON FREIGHT . TRAFFIC HAS BEEN A
PROBLEM IN THE AREA SINCE THE
STADIUMS WERE BILLED AND IT WILL
GET WORSE WITH MORE DEVELOPMENT
IN THE AREA AND THAT HAS BEEN
FOR A LONG TIME. THE DECISION
NOT TO APPEAL, I DON'T THINK IT
WAS AN ACTIVE DECISION AND WE
WERE WORKING ON A COMPROMISE
THAT WOULD NOT OF BEEN POSSIBLE.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE
UNDERSTANDING AT THE TIME. SO,
YEAH, I'M SURPRISED IS WHY IT
WASN'T APPEALED THEN , IT WAS
PART OF A COMPROMISE .
>> BEYOND THE EIS, WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT THE CITYWIDE
AGREEMENT AND NEGOTIATION , IF
HOUSING HAD BEEN PUT BACK , HOW
WOULD THAT HAVE CHANGED AND
WOULD WE HAVE THAT COMPROMISE?
>> I DOUBT THAT AND IT IS A
BRIGHT LINE ISSUE FOR THE PORT
OF SEATTLE IS SOME TIME . I GOT
A CALL ABOUT JUST THE HOTEL
BEING THERE AND HOW THEY FELT
ABOUT THAT . I CAN'T IMAGINE
HOW THE LABOR PARTNERS WOULD
HAVE REACTED TO THE HOUSING . I
THINK THAT IS A SINCERE CONCERN
WITH THAT, IT IS SAFE TO SAY .
>> I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE
PRESENT AND I HAVE ABOUT FOUR
MORE BUT I WILL SAVE THEM .
>> THANK YOU. I TOO WANT TO
THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE
TODAY. I WANT TO THINK THAT
COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR HAVING
BOTH. THERE WERE TWO PANELS AND
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HEAR
FROM EVERYONE AN IMPORTANT FOR
US TO BE EDUCATED ABOUT
DECISIONS WE MAKE . I WOULD SAY
MR. FITCH YOU ARE SURPRISED
ABOUT THE LACK OF APPEAL AND IS
BECAUSE SOME OF US WERE NOT HERE
WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS HAPPENING
AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
STATEMENT IS IMPORTANT AND IT
GUIDES THE DECISIONS THE CITY
MAKES WHEN EXPLORING LAND-USE
LEGISLATION AND SO THEY ARE
IMPORTANT TOOLS TO HELP GUIDE
THE CONVERSATION AND THAT IS WHY
YOU ARE HEARING AT LEAST SOME OF
US ASKING. I WAS NOT HERE AND
THAT'S WHY I'M FOCUSED ON THAT
. WHEN FOLKS ARE NOT ALIGNED
WITH WHAT THE EIS SAYS, THERE IS
AN APPEALS PROCESS AND THAT IS
YOUR AVENUE TO GET SOMETHING
DIFFERENT AND THAT'S WHY YOU
ARE HEARING THAT. I , ALSO --
ONE PIECE IS I KNOW -- I HAVE MY
NOTES HERE . I BELIEVE THE PORT
AGREED TO ALMOST 900 HOUSING
UNITS AND TRADITIONAL AREAS LIKE
SOUTH PARK AND THE MANUFACTURING
AND INDUSTRIAL CENTER. SO, THIS
MAKER'S SPACE IS A SMALL AREA .
I UNDERSTAND AND I AM COMPELLED
BY ALL THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED
IN TERMS OF INDUSTRIAL WINDS AND
THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR MARITIME
WORK . AND, I KNOW THIS IS A
SMALL AREA AND SO THAT WAS
ALLOWED , OR AT LEAST THE PORT
AGREED TO DO THAT THEN, BUT THIS
WAS NOT ALLOWED. I'M CURIOUS AS
TO THAT. YOU KNOW, WHY YOU
SEEMED FINE WITH THAT AND NOT
THIS. IT SEEMS IMPORTANT , CAN
SOMEONE TALK ABOUT THAT PIECE OF
IT?
>> I WILL GO WITH IT. YOU ARE
SPOT ON. IT'S ALLOWED IN EVERY
INDUSTRIAL ZONE EXCEPT THIS ONE
AND THAT WAS PART OF THE
COMPROMISE . I THINK THAT IS WHY
THERE WAS SOME RESISTANCE
BECAUSE THERE ARE FOLKS ON THE
CONCERNED SIDE WONDERING WHY
DEVELOPMENT IS ALLOWED
SPECIFICALLY IN ONE ZONE RATHER
THAN OTHER INDUSTRIAL ZONES AND
IT WAS A COMPROMISE. I THINK IT
WAS ONE OF THE ESSENCES OF THE
COMPROMISE. I WILL SAY TOO THAT
YOU MENTIONED NOT HAVING BEEN
THERE WHEN THE DEAL WAS MADE.
I'M EXTREMELY BY THE PEOPLE
EXPRESSING CONCERN . THE
SHIPPERS AND THE TERMINAL
OPERATORS WHO OPERATE THE
TERMINALS . THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
TELLING YOU TRAFFIC IS AN
OPERATIONAL ISSUE ARE SPEAKING
WITH A CLEAR MESSAGE AND SO THAT
IS ADDITIONAL .
>> I WOULD ADD A LOT OF PLACES
CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL HAVE
NOT BEEN BUILT UP YET. WHY ARE
WE TRYING TO REZONE OTHER AREAS
WITH NO IMPACT TO THE OPERATION
WE HAVEN'T FULFILLED OTHER
AREAS?
>> IS THIS AREA DIFFERENT? I'M
WONDERING WHY THE COMPROMISE IS
DIFFERENT FOR WHERE YOU ARE
ALLOWING THE 900 UNITS OR SO AND
DID NOT HEAR?
>> IT IS LOCATED ON A HEAVY
CORRIDOR ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY
DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM
THE INTERNATIONAL CONTAINER FIRM
AND IT IS DIFFERENT IN THE EYES
OF THE POOR THAN THE OTHER
INDUSTRIAL ZONES .
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND , I HAD ANOTHER COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS BUT I CAN REACH OUT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I DON'T
WANT TO TAKE UP MORE TIME
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, SO THANK YOU
.
>> MY GOAL WAS TO HAVE THIS --
I'M NOT GOING TO CUT THIS PANEL
OFF. MY GOAL WAS TO GET OUT BY
12:30 HAS FOLKS HAVE TO GET OUT
TO LUNCH AND THEN GET TO THEIR
JOBS. GO AHEAD, PLEASE .
>> I'M GOING TO STICK TO THE
URBAN INDUSTRIAL CONVERSATION.
I'VE BEEN TO THE PAST AND THE
PRESENT AND I GET TO THE FUTURE
IN JUST A SECOND. I WILL ANSWER
THE QUESTION I JUST HEARD ASKED
WHICH IS WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT
THIS VERSE IS EVERY OTHER AREA
THAT WAS REZONED . THE
DIFFERENCE IN MY MIND IS THAT
EVERY OTHER AREA THAT HAD A NET
LOSS OF INDUSTRIAL ZONING
BECAUSE OF THE ALLOWANCE FOR
HOUSING WAS ON THE BORDER OF OUR
INDUSTRIAL LANDS THAT ALREADY
HAD RESIDENTIAL ZONES. I WILL
ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN , HOW IS
THIS PLACE DIFFERENT THAN THE
REST OF THE ZONES? ANYONE CAN
ANSWER THAT . REALLY, THE
QUESTION IS -- AND I WILL LEAVE
THE QUESTION HERE, HOW IS THE
HALF-MILE BETWEEN T 46 AND I-90
ANY DIFFERENT THAN 200 OR 400
FEET OFF OF LARRY AVENUE WHICH
IS UP AGAINST VINNY RICH ?
>> YOU ARE DESCRIBING WHAT WAS
FORMALLY KNOWN AS THE INDUSTRIAL
BUFFER ZONE. THE DIFFERENCE IS
THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM
AN INTERNATIONAL CARGO TERMINAL
IN THE CENTER.
>> THE NEXT QUESTION .
>> I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT
THE PROPERTY THAT WAS
TRANSFORMED -- THE PROPERTY I
REFERRED TO BEFORE WAS IN THE
INDUSTRIAL BUFFER ZONE AND IT
WAS MADE INTO NEIGHBORHOOD
COMMERCIAL, I BELIEVE . SO,
THAT'S WHY I SAY THERE IS
INCONSISTENCY AND HOW THIS HAS
BEEN APPLIED .
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT .
THE CONSISTENT ASPECT ACROSS
THIS PLAN IS THAT THERE WAS
COMPROMISE .
>> AND A FLOOR LIMIT.
>> THERE WAS NOT ALL OUT
OPPOSITION AND IF THERE WAS, WE
MITIGATED IT. I DON'T LIKE
EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THE PLAN
AND THAT IS WHAT COMPROMISE IS .
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU KEEP
COMING BACK TO CITE SPECIFIC
PLACES THROUGHOUT THE CITY .
WHAT I CAN ANSWER YOU WITH IS
THE PRODUCT YOU SAW PAST WAS THE
RESULT OF COMPROMISE AND THAT'S
WHY IT WAS IN THERE. BACK TO THE
PRESENCE WITHIN THE URBAN
INDUSTRIAL THERE IS A 200 FOOT
PROHIBITION FOR HOUSING WITHIN
THE FREIGHT LANES. MR. KELLY, IF
YOU WANT TO JUMP ON THAT , WHY
IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE A BUFFER
BETWEEN THE RATE ROUTE ON THE
HOUSING IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE ?
>> I THINK THERE IS A
TRADITIONAL INCOMPATIBILITY
BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL LANDS AND
RESIDENTIAL LANDS AND THAT'S
WHY YOU HAVE THE ZONING THAT YOU
HAVE . THE BUFFER PROVIDES A
MEASURE OF SAFETY BETWEEN THE
ACTIVITIES THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
I THINK THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT
IT IS.
>> SO IF THE BUILDING IS BEING
BUILT ALONG LARRY WAY UP AGAINST
VINNY RICH, IT HAS TO SIT BACK
200 FEET FROM THE FREIGHT ROUTE
BECAUSE OF NOISE AND POLLUTION
AND SAFETY AND INCOMPATIBILITY
BETWEEN HOUSING AND INDUSTRIAL
ZONES? IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT WOULD BE MY SUBMISSION,
YES .
>> AND THE COMPROMISE WITH
PHINNEY RIDGE IS THERE IS
ALREADY HOUSING. TO COME BACK TO
THE STADIUM TRANSITION OVERLAY
AREA , THERE IS NOT A 200 FOOT
SETBACK FROM THE FREIGHT ROUTES
. WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THAT?
>> NOISE AND SAFETY . I MEAN ,
THESE PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO GET
FROM SOUTH TO NORTH . THEY'RE
NOT GOING SOUTH BECAUSE THAT'S
THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS. THEY NEED
TO CROSS EDGAR MARTINEZ WAY OR
SR 519 AND THERE IS NO WAY TO DO
THAT, NOW . FREIGHT STOPS WHEN
THERE IS A STADIUM EVENT ,
MOSTLY FOR SAFETY AND ACCESS.
REMEMBER WE ONLY GOT 50% OF THE
PROJECT WITH FOUR LANES GOING
DIRECTLY FOR FREIGHT ADD FOUR
LANES AND THIS IS BEEN GOING ON
FOR YEARS . INDUSTRIAL ZONING
USED TO START AT KING STREET AND
THEN WE PUT THE STADIUMS IN AND
IT IS LEAKING FURTHER AND
FURTHER SOUTH. HE PUT HOUSING IN
THIS TRANSITION AREA AND THEN
THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO CROSS
AND THEN WHY KEEP TAKING AWAY
LANDS THAT ARE 90% OCCUPIED?
>> THANK YOU . THE LAST QUESTION
IS TO PART TRANSITIONING FROM
THE PRESENT TO THE FUTURE AND A
LITTLE BIT OF THE PAST WHICH IS
IT TOOK ABOUT SIX YEARS OF
FACILITATING CONVERSATION FOR
THE AGREEMENT TO BE EVEN
PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF
SEATTLE. THAT WAS A LONG AND
FACILITATED CONVERSATION AMONG
STAKEHOLDERS WHO DO NOT AGREE
SOMETIME ON ANYTHING . WITH THE
PROCESS BEFORE US, HOW IS THIS
PROCESS GOING? IS IT INCREASING
OR DECREASING THE COMMUNICATION
OR TRUST BUILDING OR ANYTHING
ELSE THAT WOULD LEAD US INTO THE
FUTURE ? THE FUTURE QUESTION
TIED WITH THE TWO-PARTER , INTO
THE FUTURE TO CONTINUE THIS
CONVERSATION, WHAT WOULD YOU SEE
AND WHAT WOULD YOU NEED TO
PARTICIPATE IN CONTINUING THIS
CONVERSATION? SO, HOW IS IT
GOING AND HOW DO WE NEED TO GO
IN THE FUTURE?
>> I WOULD SAY THE PORT IS
ALWAYS COMMITTED TO COME TO THE
TABLE AND TALK ABOUT THE IDEAL
VISION AND WHAT WOULD BE IN THE
BEST INTEREST FOR THE RESIDENTS
WE ARE HERE TO SERVE. JUST LIKE
WE HAVE COME TO THE TABLE IN THE
LAST SIX YEARS ARE AT THE TABLE
WITH YOUR WITH YOU TODAY . THE
CROSSING AT T 46 WILL NEVER BE
VIABLE FOR US . IF WE WANT A
BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT
ZONING AND THE BEST SPOT FOR THE
MAKERS DISTRICT AND OTHER USES,
FIRST, WE NEED TIME. LEGISLATION
IN A CRUNCH TIMELINE IS NOT A
PARTNERSHIP WE WOULD EXPECT TO
BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN .
PRIMARILY, THE PORT COMMISSION
VOTED LONG AGO TO HOLD AND
TENANT HAVE NO LOST INDUSTRIAL
LANDS. IF ANYTHING IS
IDENTIFIED, IT WILL HAVE TO BE A
LONG NEGOTIATION ABOUT
INDUSTRIAL LANDS SO WE DON'T
LOSE A SINGLE SQUARE FOOT. THE
OTHER THING WE NEED IS CERTAINTY
. WE ARE TIRED OF EVERY TIME WE
COME TO WHAT WE THINK IS AN
AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO COME
BACK AND DEFEND THE INTEGRITY OF
OUR INDUSTRIAL LANDS .
RESPECTFULLY, COUNCILMEMBER, I
POSED YOU THE QUESTION WHAT
WOULD IT TAKE FOR THIS TO NOT
COME UP AGAIN NEXT YEAR?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND
AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.
>> [ APPLAUSE ].
>> I DON'T EXPECT TO SEE THIS
ON A SURPRISE INTRODUCTION
REFERRAL CALENDAR AFTER THE
COUNCIL WAS CLOSED A LITTLE
HASTILY, I WOULD SAY. IN CLOSING
REMARKS, I WILL PASS IT BACK TO
YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THAT I
WAS THE LAND-USE CHAIR FOR ANY
OTHER COLLEAGUE THAT HAS SERVED.
IN THOSE FOUR YEARS, WE HAD
TODAY AND LEGALLY REQUIRED
PUBLIC HEARING WITCHES DIFFERENT
THAN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
AT THE BEGINNING . I DON'T
BELIEVE I SAW ANY LEGALLY
REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING LONGER
THAN 10 OR 15 MINUTES IN MY
ENTIRE TIME AS THE CHAIR AND
TODAY WAS VERY DIFFERENT. THANK
YOU .
>> I COMPLETELY AGREE THERE IS
HIGH INTEREST IN THIS AND THAT
IS PRECISELY WHY I DID NOT WANT
TO PUSH THIS ISSUE IN 2023 WHEN
I WAS TOLD THAT WOULD TURN OVER
-- THAT WOULD RUIN THE WHOLE
EFFORT THAT LED TO THE -- TO THE
APPROVAL OF THAT LEGISLATION WAS
SO IMPORTANT AND I DIDN'T WANT
TO MESS THAT UP. WHEN I WAS
WANTING TO ADVANCE IT , IT WAS
BASICALLY WEIGHT DON'T MESS UP
THIS LEGISLATION AND SOME OTHER
TIME, ET CETERA BUT NOT NOW .
SO, I MADE CLEAR THAT WHAT I
WANT IS MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING
AND MORE SPACE FOR SMALL
MAKER'S BUSINESSES THAT CAN
MAKE PRODUCTS AND PERFORM
ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NOT
PERMITTED ELSEWHERE AND OTHER
COMMERCIAL ZONES . AND BETTER
SAFETY IN THE AREA . THOSE ARE
THINGS I WOULD LIKE AND, I WANT
FOLKS TO KNOW THAT AS A
MOTIVATION FOR ME TO DO WHAT
I'M DOING. SO, I APPRECIATE
YOUR PARTICIPATION HERE . I WILL
LET THE PERSON WHO CONVENED THIS
PANEL HAVE THE LAST WORD. THANK
YOU ALL FOR COMING.
>> I WILL NOT SPEAK FOUR MINUTES
TO TAKE US TO 12:30 I WILL SPEAK
FOR FOUR SECONDS. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> [ APPLAUSE ].
>> WAIT A MINUTE, I'M SUPPOSED
TO OFFICIALLY ADJOURN. I'M
SORRY. OKAY, IT IS 12:27 . THANK
YOU FOR COMING IN THIS
OFFICIALLY ADJOURNS THE MEETING.
THE NEXT MEETING IS ON THURSDAY
, THE 27th.
>> THANK YOU ALL . THANK YOU
ALL.