>> STRAUSS?
>> PRESENT.
>> MOORE?
>> PRESENT.
>> RINCK?
>> HERE.
>> CHAIR?
>> HERE.
>> THERE'S FIVE PRESENT.
>> I PROVE TO ADOPT THE AGENDA
IS THERE IS A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE
AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THANK YOU ALL
VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS
MORNING TO, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS
WHAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA, AND
I ALWAYS WANT TO THANK OUR
CENTRAL STAFF FOR HELPING US
PREPARE HYBRID PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD. PUBLIC COMMENTS
SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA AND WITHIN THE
PER VIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE.
>> CLERK, HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO
WE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR TODAY?
>> WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS SIGNED
UP. ONE IN PERSON.
>> ONE VIRTUAL.
>> OKAY, WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE
IN-PERSON SPEAKER AND THEN MOVE
TO THE REMOTE SPEAKERS. EACH ONE
WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. CLERK,
CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE
INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD.
>> THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS
UP TO 20 MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL
BE CALLED IN ORDER THEY ARE
REGISTERED. IN-PERSON SPEAKERS
FIRST AND THEN VIRTUAL. SPEAKERS
WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN TEN
SECONDS ARE LEFT. THEY WILL BE
MUTED TO ALLOW FOR THE NEXT
SPEAKER. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE
FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST, AND
THAT IS MARK WOOD.
>> MARK WEED. I WAS EXPECTING TO
HAVE ONE OF MY ASSOCIATING HERE
TODAY, AND I'M SORRY HE IS NOT
HERE YET, BUT I'M SURE HE WILL
COME IN RELIEVEMENT. WE
REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON
SIXTH AVENUE, DOWN BY THE SODO
STATION, AND TALKING TOWARDS THE
ORDINANCE TODAY, WE ARE IN FAVOR
OF THE ORDINANCE. THE MISSING IS
WHY ISN'T IT CITYWIDE? WHY IS
IT ONLY FOR SOUND TRANSIT? IT
WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IN ORDER
TO MOVE THINGS AHEAD FOR
EVERYONE IN THE CITY THAT WE
CONSIDER LOOKING AT IT IN A
BROADER SENSE. IN ADDITION, IN
THE CASE OF THE AREA DOWN THERE
AROUND SODO STATION, ONE OF THE
PROVISIONS WITHIN THE ORDINANCE
IS MAKING SURE THE COMMUNITY IS
BEST SERVED BY WHATEVER WORK IS
BEING DONE AROUND THE STATION
AREAS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
SURE THAT THAT IS OBSERVED AND
ACTUALLY EMBRACED FOR THE
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE
THE TIME TODAY.
>> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> NEXT WE HAVE DAVID HAYNES.
>> DAVID, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX.
>> DAVID HERE. THANK YOU. ON THE
PRESENTATION, I NOTICED THERE'S
SOMETHING ON THERE THAT SAYS
INSURES A SENSE OF BELONGING FOR
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AT ALL
STATIONS, MAKING SURE THAT
STATIONS ARE NOT WHITE SPACES.
WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN?
IT'S LIKE FIRST YOU ALL HAVE
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. YOU'RE
NOT QUALIFIED FOR CERTAIN
POLLICIS, YET PUSHING THROUGH
THINGS AS A FAVOR AND TAINTING
EVERYTHING WITH RACISM. I SWEAR
TO CHRIST THE DOJ NEEDS TO
INVESTIGATE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR
YOUR SPECIAL SELF-DEALING FAVORS
AND UNQUALIFIED POLICIES THAT
ARE DOING TO SQUANDER BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS DOWN FROM THE TOP IN
SEATTLE WHERE YOU CAN'T GET
WITHOUT ANOTHER TRANSFER. YOU
ARE SQUANDERING BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS ON TAXES, AND YET YOUR
SOCIETY CONTINUES TO IMPLODE.
NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE IT
TOTALLY SUCKS. YOU HAVE SPEAKERS
BLARING IN YOUR EAR LIKE THEY
ARE TRYING TO KEEP THE JUNKIES
AWAY, BOTHERING EVERYBODY ELSE,
JOLTING IN THE TUNNEL MADE
CHEAPLY BY CORRUPT UNIONS THAT
GET A PUNCH PASS ON YOUR
FAILURES. YOU KEEP PUSHING ALONG
WITH ST3 WITH SPECIAL INTEREST
FAVORS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE
CAN LINE THEIR POCKETS WITH TAX
MONEY TO SELL OUT TO HAVE A
STUPID TRAIN THAT BUILDS A
RESUME FOR PROGRESSIVE
DEMOCRATS. THE SAME ONES WHO
HAVE TAINTED OUR SOCIETY WITH
SKIN COLORED RACISM, AN IGNORANT
CONJURING OF THE PAST WITH YOUR
MISEDUCATION OF HATE. YOU ARE
ALL REVOLTING. YOU'RE NO BETTER
THAN THE PAST COUNCIL. YOU'RE
JUST PUSHING THE ENVELOPE AND
DUMPING PEOPLE OVER THE CLIFF
WITH YOUR FAILURE OF BAD
POLICIES OF RACISM.
>> THERE ARE NO MR. SPEAKERS.
>> VERY GOOD. AS THERE ARE NO
MR. SPEAKERS, THE PUBLIC
COMMENTARY PERIOD IS CLOSED. WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR ITEMS OF
BUSINESS. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE
-- EXCUSE ME. WILL YOU PLEASE
READ THE FIRST AND ONLY ITEM OF
BUSINESS AS REFLECTED ON THE
AGENDA INTO THE RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM ONE.
COUNCIL BILL 120975. AN
ORDINANCE RELATING TO LAND USE
AND ZONING; ADDRESSING SIGNAGE;
CLARIFYING REQUIREMENTS AND
SUPPORTING EFFICIENT PERMITTING
PROCESSES FOR LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT
FACILITIES; ADDING NEW SECTIONS
>> THANK YOU. I SEE OUR
PRESENTERS ARE AT THE TABLE.
IDENTIFY YOUR YOURSELF AND BEGIN
WHEN YOU'RE READY.
>> I'M SARA MAXANA. THANK YOU
FOR HAVING US TODAY.
>> GOOD MORNING, LINDSAY KING,
SOUND TRANSIT 3 PROJECT MANAGER.
>> CENTRAL COUNCIL STAFF.
>> COOL.
>> ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US
BACK AT THE TABLE. WE ARE EAGER
TODAY TO FOLLOW UP OUR
CONVERSATION FROM THE APRIL 30th
COMMITTEE MEETING. WE HAVE A
SLIDE DECK PREPARED THAT
RESPONDS TO SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION ITEMS
FROM THAT COMMITTEE MEETING THAT
PERTAIN TO ISSUES RELATED TO OUR
CODE AMENDMENT LEGISLATION AS
WELL AS SOME COMMENTS AND
QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP THAT ARE
OUTSIDE OF THE PER VIEW OF CODE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE WOULD STILL
LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS. OH THAT IS TRICKY, YEP.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE ARE GOING TO
START OFF WITH TALKING ABOUT
SOME OF THE NONCODE AMENDMENT
RELATED ISSUES INCLUDING SAFETY
AND USER EXPERIENCE ON TRANSIT,
RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS
DISPLACEMENT, AND SOME OF THE
ISSUES COMING UP WITH THE CODE
AMENDMENT LEGISLATION, INCLUDING
A BRIEF RECAP OF THE AMENDMENTS,
WALKING THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS
OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE
THREE PLUS YEARS OF COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT THAT INFORMED THIS
PROPOSAL, AND THEN TALKING A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TREE AND
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, SOME
OF THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
THAT CAME UP WITH THAT, AND THEN
WRAP UP WITH THE NEXT STEPS. WE
ALWAYS START OFF EVERY SLIDE
JUST GROUNDING AGAIN IN SOUND
TRANSIT 3, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY
OVER 70% OF SEATTLE VOTERS BACK
IN THE 2016 BALLOT INITIATIVE.
IT IS THE LARGEST INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECT IN THE CITY'S HISTORY.
WEST SEATTLE AND BALLARD,
TOGETHER, COMBINED AND BRINGING
TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO
TRANSFORM HOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS
ACCESS THEIR HOMES, JOBS, AND
DESTINATIONS, AND ALSO BRINGING
VERY REAL IMPACTS TO THE CITY AS
IT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED THROUGH
EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. OUR TEAM
IS AN INTERDEPARTMENTAL ONE
SEATTLE EFFORT TO WORK ACROSS
THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WITH SOUND
TRANSIT, STAKEHOLDERS AND THE
COMMUNITY IN THE PLANNING OF THE
INVESTMENT. WE ARE LED BY THE
WATER FRONT OF CIVIC TRANSIT BUT
DEPEND ON THE EXPERTISE ACROSS
DOZENS OF CITY DEPARTMENTS. WE
ARE GOING TO START OFF TODAY
TALKING ABOUT TWO ISSUES THAT
CAME UP IN THE APRIL 30th
COMMITTEE MEETING, SAFETY AND
USER EXPERIENCE ON TRANSIT AND
RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS
DISPLACEMENT. I WANT TO START
OFF TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCIL
ACTION IN 2022, WHICH WAS
FOLLOWING THE DRAFT EIS. AT THE
TIME IT WAS THE DRAFT EIS FOR
WEST SEATTLE AND BALLARD LINK
EXTENSIONS. CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED
32055 THAT RECOMMENDED A
PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE FOR WEST
SEATTLE AND BALLARD LINK
EXTENSIONS IN ADVANCE OF THE
SOUND TRANSIT BOARD ALTERNATIVE.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
HIGHLIGHT THIS ACTION BECAUSE
SELECTING THE STATION LOCATIONS
AND WHERE THOSE GUIDEWAYS ARE
GOING TO GO IS TYPICALLY THE
MOST IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO
EFFECT THE OUTCOMES OF THE
PROJECT. SO IT WAS A CRITICAL
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY, THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE, FOR CITY
COUNCIL TO TAKE A POSITION TO
SHAPE THOSE OUTCOMES. THE ACTION
CITY COUNCIL TOOK SPOKE
SPECIFICALLY TO SAFETY, USER
EXPERIENCE, AND DISPLACEMENT. A
MAP OF THE WEST SEATTLE
EXTENSION, AND ALL OF THE
STATION LOCATIONS AND GUIDEWAYS
IDENTIFIED IN THAT COUNCIL
ACTION DID END UPPING IN THE
STATIONS AND GUIDEWAYS THAT WERE
SELECTED BY THE SOUND TRANSIT
BOARD LATER THAT YEAR. SO THE
COUNCIL RESOLUTION BASED
RECOMMENDATION FOR A PREFERRED
ALTERNATIVE ON FIVE KEY VALUES.
RACIAL EQUITY, SAFETY AND USER
EXPERIENCE, COMMUNITY INCLUDING
COMMUNITY IMPACTS INCLUDING
MINIMIZING RESIDENTIAL AND
BUSINESS DISPLACEMENT,
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION,
MINIMIZING IMPACTS TO SENSITIVE
AREAS, AND THEN FINANCIAL
STEWARDSHIP, HAVING A MIND
TOWARDS THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS
BEING USED TO FUND THE PROJECT.
WHILE WE WALK THROUGH THE
SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT CAME UP AT
THE APRIL 30th COMMITTEE
MEETING, SAFETY AND USER
EXPERIENCE, MINIMIZING
RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS
DISPLACEMENT WILL SPEAK
SPECIFICALLY TO SOME OF THE
EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS COUNCIL
ACTION HELPED TO SHAPE OUTCOMES
IN A POSITIVE WAY. STARTING WITH
SAFETY AND USER EXPERIENCE ON
TRANSIT, SELECTING A PREFERRED
ALTERNATIVE FOR WEST SEATTLE IN
PARTICULAR, PRIORITIZE SAFETY
AND USER EXPERIENCE OF THE
ALTERNATIVE, THE EXAMPLE I WOULD
LIKE TO SHARE THE DELRIDGE
STATION ALTERNATIVES IN ROUGHLY
THREE DIFFERENT AREAS. DAKOTA
STREET, DELRIDGE WAY, AND
ANDOVER THE ALTERNATIVE ON THE
NORTH END NEAR ANDOVER WAS MADE
IN LARGE PART OVER THE
RESPONSIBILITIES OF DELRIDGE
WAY. DELRIDGE WOULD HAVE CREATED
SITE, PRECLUDED VISIBILITY, AND
IT WOULD HAVE CREATED A DARK
CORRIDOR UNDER WHICH PEOPLE ARE
ACCESSING STATIONS, AND CREATED
THE TYPE OF DESIGN SITUATION
THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY LEND
ITSELF TO FEELING SAFE,
PARTICULARLY AT NIGHT, SO ONE OF
THE DECISIONS TO SITE THE
STATION FURTHER NORTH ALLOWED
FOR A BETTER LIT AREA, BETTER,
SAFER AREA FOR PEDESTRIANS. IN
ADDITION FOR WEST SEATTLE AND
BALLARD, WE ARE WORKING TO
IMPROVE SAFETY AND USER
EXPERIENCE THROUGH A NUMBER OF
FINAL DESIGN AND PERMITTING
CONSIDERATIONS INCLUDING
ADVANCING SEPTED PRINCIPLES
CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH
ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. SOUND
TRANSIT HAS AGREED FOR WEST
SEATTLE TO LOOK FOR
OPPORTUNITIES TO INCORPORATE
INTO FINAL DESIGN. WE ARE
APPLYING THE DESIGN GUIDES IN
THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS
INCLUDING SUITE OF STRATEGIES
FOR DESIGN THAT INCLUDE OPEN
SPACE DESIGN AND ACTIVATION,
SAFETY, COMFORT, LIGHTING,
WAYFINDING, A LOT OF THE DESIGN
FACTORS THAT CAN LEND ITSELF TO
A SAFER ENVIRONMENT. SAFETY AND
USER EXPERIENCE DOESN'T JUST
RELATE TO DESIGN. IT RELATES TO
THE EXPERIENCE PEOPLE HAVE ON
TRANSIT THERE WERE QUESTIONS
THAT CAME UP ON THE COMMITTEE
MEETING ABOUT SAFETY ON TRAINS
ITSELF. THE CITY IS PARTNERING
WITH A NUMBER OF EFFORTS
SPEAKING TO SAFETY ON TRAINS.
THE KING COUNTY REGIONAL TRANSIT
SAFETY TASK FORCE, A PARTNERSHIP
WITH SOUND TRANSIT. I GUESS I
HAVE SOUND TRANSIT TWICE ON THAT
SIDE. LABOR, LAW ENFORCEMENT,
WORKING TOWARDS ACHIEVABLE AND
MEASURABLE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS
WITH THE FOCUS ON THE EXPERIENCE
OF TRANSIT RIDERS AND EMPLOYEES.
ALSO WORKING ON IMPROVING SAFETY
AND ACCESS TO TRANSIT AND LOCAL
DESTINATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
WALKING AND ROLLING, BIKING,
DRIVING THROUGH AND NEAR
STATIONS THROUGH SEVERAL EFFORTS
INCLUDING THE MLK JR. SAFETY
PROJECT AND SOUND TRANSITS AT
GRADE CROSSING PROGRAMS. LOOKING
AT WAYS TO IMPROVE SAFETY IN THE
VICINITY OF THE STATION AREAS.
SPEAKING TO RESIDENTIAL AND
BUSINESS DISPLACEMENT, AN ISSUE
COMING UP AT THE COMMITTEE
MEETING, RELATING TO THE
SELECTION OF THE PREFERRED
ALTERNATIVE FOR THE DELRIDGE
SEGMENTS. THE ACTION ON
SELECTING AN ALTERNATIVE. THE
LOWEST OR THE ON LOW END OF
RESIDENTIAL DISPLACEMENT
CONSIDERED TO THE OTHER OPTIONS
BEING CONSIDERED. AND MODERATE.
UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS NO
SINGLE ALTERNATIVE THAT WOULD
MINIMIZE BOTH. IT WAS LOOKING
FOR A BALANCE THAT WOULD HAVE
MINIMIZED PARTICULARLY
RESIDENTIAL DISPLACEMENT AND
OTHER ALTERNATIVES FOR DELRIDGE
FOR EXAMPLE HAD SUBSTANTIALLY
MORE DISPLACEMENT. WE ARE ALSO
NOW WORKING WITH SOUND TRANSIT
AND AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS AND
TENANTS INCLUDING BUSINESSES AND
RESIDENTS AS WEST SEATTLE IS NOW
ENTERING THE FINAL DESIGN PHASE
OF THE PROJECT. SOUND TRANSIT IS
GOING TO BEGIN TO PROPERTY
ACQUISITION, AND THAT INCLUDES
ASSISTANCE TO PROPERTY OWNERS
AND TENANTS AFFECTED BY PROPERTY
ACQUISITION OR RELOCATION. WE
ARE SUPPORTING THAT PROCESS BY
POINTING FOLKS TO THE RIGHT
DEPARTMENTS AND STAFF AT SOUND
TRANSIT TO HELP THEM GET THE
SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED. AND THEN
IN ADDITION THE STATE
LEGISLATURE JUST ADOPTED EARLIER
THIS MONTH THE INCREASE TO THE
CAP FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE
DISPLACED. THAT WAS LEGISLATION
THAT THE CITY SUPPORTED, AND SO
BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO RECEIVE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE
COMPENSATION IN THAT RELOCATION
EFFORT. THAT NEW AMOUNT IS ALSO
TO BE ADDRESSED, ADJUSTED FOR
INFLATION OVER TIME. WE SEE
THESE AS POSITIVE EFFORTS THAT
ARE GOING TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES
AS THEY ARE IMPACTED BY THE
PROJECT. WITH THAT WE ARE GOING
TO PIVOT TO THE ISSUES OR
QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP RELATED
TO THE CODE AMENDMENT PACKAGE
ITSELF, AND I'M GOING TO HAND
THINGS OVER TO LINDSAY TO WALK
US THROUGH THESE NEXT SET OF
SLIDES.
>> THANK YOU, SARA. FIRST, I'D
LIKE TO START BY RECAPPING WHERE
WE WERE ON APRIL 30th WHEN I
PRESENTED THE CODE AMENDMENTS
UNDER CONSIDERATION.
PARTICULARLY TWO GROUPS. THE
PROCESS RELATED IMPROVEMENTS AND
DESIGN RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
JUST TO RECAP, WE HAVE SPENT THE
LAST FIVE YEARS DEVELOPING THE
CODE AMENDMENT PACKAGE AS IT WAS
PRESENTED TO YOU. OUR GOALS ARE
TO RESOLVE CODE CONFLICTS TO BE
ABLE TO PERMIT THE CENTRAL
FACILITY AND STREAMLINE THE
PROCESS BY REMOVING REDUNDANT OR
UNNECESSARY PROCESS STEPS TO
FACILITATE TIMELY DELIVERY OF
PERMITS. OUR PROCESS RELATED
IMPROVEMENTS FOCUSING ON THREE
AREAS. THE FIRST TREE LINING THE
MASTER USE PERMIT PROCESS. OUR
GOAL WITH STREAMLINING THE
MASTER USE PERMIT PROCESS WAS TO
MAKE THE APPEAL PROCESS MORE
EFFICIENT AND TIMELY WHILE STILL
MAINTAINING THE PUBLIC TOUCH
POINT IN THE PROCESS. SO OUR
MASTER USE PERMITS WILL INCLUDE
THE LARGE WHITE SIGN, PUBLIC
MAILINGS AND NOTICE, ALONG WITH
POTENTIAL PUBLIC MEETINGS IN
COMMUNITY BEFORE WE RENDER A
DECISION, THAT WAY A COMMUNITY
CAN BE INVOLVED WHEN IT IS MOST
TIMELY TO INFORM PERMITTING
DECISIONS AND PARTICIPATE IN THE
PROCESS. THE SECOND IS TO CREATE
A PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE PRELIMINARY
CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS
A TOOL TO BE USED AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE PERMIT PROCESS
TO LAY OUT THE STRATEGY FOR
CONSTRUCTION WHEN MULTIPLE
PERMITS WILL BE OCCURRING IN THE
SAME AREA AND GEOGRAPHY. WE NEED
TO MAINTAIN MOVEMENT OF
VEHICLES, PEDESTRIANS, BUSES,
PEOPLE WALKING, ROLLING AROUND
THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE
CONSTRUCTION IS OCCURRING, AND
THE PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT PLAN IS A TOOL TO
HELP US SUPPORT THAT PROCESS.
THE THIRD CREATING A
PROJECT-LEVEL TREE AND
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, WE
WILL DIVE IN TO
DETAIL LATER TODAY, BUT A
HOLISTIC STRATEGY FOR TREE
MANAGEMENT. THE DESIGN RELATED
IMPROVEMENTS, AND SARA SPOKE TO
THESE AS WELL. TO ESTABLISH
LIGHT RAIL SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS AND DESIGN GUIDELINES
TO FACILITATE AN EFFICIENT AND
CLEAR REGULATORY STRUCTURE FOR
STATIONS REGARDLESS OF THEIR
GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION IN THE CITY,
AND WE INTEND TO REVISE THE
BICYCLE PARKING REQUIREMENTS
SIMILARLY TO BE RESPONSIVE TO
THE GEOGRAPHY AND STATIONS ARE
LOCATED. WE WILL ESTABLISH THE
ADVISORY REVIEW BODY WITH PUBLIC
FACING MEETING WITH THE PUBLIC
TO ENGAGE IN STATION DESIGN.
NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU FOR ASKING
US TO DETAIL WHAT WE HAVE DONE
IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SPACE,
AND APOLOGIES FOR NOT INCLUDING
THAT IN THE LAST PRESENTATION. I
WILL START WITH THE BEGINNING OF
THE PROCESS AND DETAIL WHERE WE
WENT, WHO WE TALKED TO, WHAT WE
HEARD, AND HOW THAT INFORMED OUR
CODE AMENDMENTS IN 2023 WE
KICKED OFF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
EFFORTS WITH A STATION PLANNING
SURVEY AND BIKE SURVEY AND A
SERIES OF PUBLIC OPEN HOUSES IN
FALL OF 2023 AND SPRING OF 2024.
THE SURVEY AND THE ONLINE OPEN
HOUSES GENERATED OVER 2100
RESPONSES. SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT
COMMUNITY PRIORITIES ARE AROUND
STATION DESIGN, SO THAT COULD
INFORM THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS
AND THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT
WERE PRESENTED TO YOU. COMMUNITY
RESPONDED THAT THEY WANTED SAFE
AND CLEAN SPACES. THEY ALSO
WANTED TO FEEL LIKE THEY HAD THE
ABILITY TO EASILY TRANSFER
BETWEEN MOVEMENTS OF VEHICLES,
BUSES, AND STATIONS. ALL OF
THESE HELP INFORM THE
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WILL
GUIDE STATION DEVELOPMENT
INCLUDING CLEAR LINE OF SIGHT,
LIGHTING, PATHS OF TRAVEL,
LOCATING KEY INTERSECTIONS FOR
MODES AND STATION ENTRIES. BOTH
OF THOSE STATION PLANNING SURVEY
AS WELL AS THE OPEN HOUSES
PROVIDED WITH IN-LANGUAGE
SUPPORT. IN 2023 AND '24, WE
CONTINUED OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH BY
BEING IN THE COMMUNITY AT
VARIOUS COMMUNITY EVENTS
THROUGHOUT THE ALIGNMENTS. IN
2024, WE STARTED A SERIES OF
DIFFERENT SEATTLE DESIGN
COMMISSION PUBLIC MEETINGS,
PRIMARILY SOUND TRANSIT WAS
PRESENTING THE PRELIMINARY
ENGINEERING DESIGNS FOR ALL OF
THE WEST SEATTLE LINK STATIONS
AND GUIDEWAY SEGMENTS. THE
FEEDBACK PROVIDED BY THE PUBLIC
DURING THESE MEETINGS AS WELL AS
THE SEATTLE DESIGN COMMISSIONERS
FURTHER HELPED INFORM WHETHER OR
NOT WE NEEDED TO AMEND OUR
AMENDMENTS TO DESIGN BETTER
DESIGN OUTCOMES EITHER THROUGH
THE CREATION OF DESIGN STANDARDS
OR THROUGH THE DESIGN
GUIDELINES. LATER WE GAVE
SPECIFIC BRIEFINGS ON THE DESIGN
GUIDELINES AND CODE DEVELOPMENT
TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK TO INFORM
THOSE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE
BIG BULK OF OUR ENGAGEMENT
KICKED OFF IN FALL OF LAST YEAR,
SENDING NEARLY 100 DIFFERENT
E-MAILS TO INTERESTED PARTIES,
BOTH TRIBES, ALL OF THE
DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS AND KEY
STAKE HOLDER GROUPS BOTH IN THE
ALIGNMENT AREA OR WITH A
PARTICULAR EMPHASIS ON THE
ELEMENTS OF OUR PROPOSAL
INCLUDING TREES AND BICYCLE
PARKING. THE COMMUNICATION FROM
THE INTERESTED PARTIES THEN
INFORMED A SERIES OF BRIEFINGS
THAT WE COMPLETED OVER THE NEXT
SIX MONTHS. OUR BRIEFINGS
INCLUDED TO THE BOARDS AND
COMMISSIONS INCLUDING THE URBAN
FORESTRY COMMISSION REGARDING
THE TREE MANAGEMENT PLAN, THE
SEATTLE DESIGN COMMISSION, AS
NOTED PREVIOUSLY, AS WELL AS THE
BIKE BOARD AND THE TRANSIT
BOARD. THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED
FROM THE URBAN FORESTRY
COMMISSION LARGELY SUPPORTED
EARLY AND SYSTEMATIC ADDRESSING
OF TREES THROUGH A SINGULAR TREE
AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN
FOR EACH LINK EXTENSION. THE
SUPPORT OF A PUBLIC-FACING
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TOOL FOR
PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND TREE
IMPACTS AND THE MITIGATION BEING
PROPOSED WAS REVOLUTIONARY AND
SUPPORTED ACROSS THE BOARD. THE
SEATTLE BICYCLE BOARD AS WELL AS
THE TRANSIT BOARD SUPPORTED THE
STATION TYPOLOGY THAT WE ARE
PROPOSING REGARDING THE BICYCLE
PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO
UNDERSTAND THAT STATION LOCATION
MATTERS AS FAR AS BICYCLE
PARKING NEED. IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT
ACROSS THE BOARD FOR BICYCLE
PARKING, WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE
IS SAFE PARKING THAT IS CLOSE TO
STATION ENTRIES WITH GOOD
LIGHTING AND VISIBILITY AS WELL
AS THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT
DIFFERENT TYPES OF BICYCLES.
SOUND TRANSIT ALSO DID A SURVEY
IN THE SUMMER OF 2024 IN ORDER
TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS
PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM PARKING
AT BICYCLE OR BICYCLE FACILITIES
AT EXISTING STATIONS, AND WHAT
PEOPLE FOUND WAS THAT MANY
PEOPLE NEEDED BICYCLES FOR THE
LAST MILE OF THEIR TRIP,
HOWEVER, WITH THE LARGE
DISTRIBUTION OF STATIONS ACROSS
THE CITY, WE ANTICIPATE THERE
WILL BE MORE NEED FOR BICYCLE
PARKING THAN WHAT THE CURRENT
SYSTEM REQUIRES. ONCE WE DID OUR
CODE AMENDMENT ENGAGEMENT, WE
HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF
STAKEHOLDERS WHO WANTED VERY
SPECIFIC BRIEFINGS TO ADDRESS
THEIR CONCERNS AS THEY HAD
IDENTIFIED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT STATEMENT. FROM THERE WE
WENT TO THE SODO BIA, THE
DOWNTOWN ST3 STEERING COMMITTEE,
THE DELRIDGE DEVELOPMENT
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND
PRESENTED TO THE PORT OF SEATTLE
AND ENGAGED WITH TRIBES
REGARDING THEIR CONCERNS.
CONCERNS ARE VARIED, HOWEVER IT
SHOULD BE NOTED BOTH THE BIA AND
THE STEERING COMMITTEE HAD
CONCERNS OVER THE CONSTRUCTION
OF THE LIGHT RAIL FACILITIES. WE
DECIDED TO PUT THE PLAN IN THE
CODE IN RESPONSE TO THEIR DIRECT
CONCERNS. LASTLY WE WRAPPED UP
WITH OUR CPA PROCESS INCLUDING
PUBLIC NOTICE, PUBLICATION IN
THE LUBI AND INFORMATION ON SDOT
WEBSITES INCLUDING FACT SHEETS
AND IN-LANGUAGE SUPPORT. IF
ANYONE HAS ASKED FOR A BRIEFING
AROUND CODE AMENDMENTS, WE HAVE
PROVIDED A BRIEFING AROUND CODE
AMENDMENTS. ANYONE AND EVERYONE
WHO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT IT,
WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE,
EVEN LEADING UP TO THE PUBLIC
HEARINGS THAT IS AN OPEN
INVITATION. WE ARE PROUD OF THE
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WE DID AS WELL
AS CREATING A CODE THAT WAS
RESPONSIVE TO WHAT WE HEARD FROM
THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO
RESPONDED TO SURVEYS OR SHOWED
UP TO IN-PERSON EVENTS OR
REQUESTED SPECIFIC BRIEFINGS.
>> IF THERE'S ONE THING I WOULD
LIKE TO UNDERSCORE, ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE
SEVERAL YEARS OF THE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT WE DID, COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO THE CODE THAT WE ARE
PROPOSING TO YOU FOR THE THREE
PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS WHICH
RELATES TO THE THREE, THOSE WILL
PUTT IN PLACE NEW COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT ENVIRONMENTS THAT DO
NOT EXIST TODAY. NOT ONLY ARE WE
PUTT A GOOD DEAL OF COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT TO SHAPE THE PROPOSAL
IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT IT'S GOING
TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT
MOVING FORWARD.
>> SO FROM HERE WE WILL PIVOT TO
THE SPECIFIC REQUESTS FOR
INFORMATION ABOUT THE TREE AND
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN. TO
REVISIT WHAT THE KEY ADVANTAGE
OF THE TREE AND VEGETATION
MANAGEMENT IT WILL CREATE A
TRANSPARENT PROCESS WITH UPFRONT
ENGAGEMENT AS SARA MENTIONED.
THE TRICK HERE WITHOUT THE DO
NOTHING SCENARIO, SDI WOULD BE
ISSUING AND REVIEWING PERMITS,
HUNDREDS OF THEM IN AN
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS WITHOUT
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
>> DO YOU MIND IF WE PAUSE
REALLY QUICKLY FOR A QUESTION? I
BELIEVE THERE'S A QUESTION ON
THE PREVIOUS PORTION REGARDING
ENGAGEMENT?
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE ROUND TWO AND
ADDRESSING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
WE HAD LAST TIME. ON COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT, CAN YOU TALK A BIT
ABOUT -- I UNDERSTAND THE
ENGAGEMENT TO THE BOARDS AND
COMMISSIONS AND SPECIALTY GROUPS
AND STAKEHOLDERS THE CITY
NORMALLY ENGAGES WITH. I WANT TO
HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT WAS DONE IN
TERMS OF BROAD COMMUNITY. SO I
SEE FARMERS MARKETS, BUT NOT
EVERYONE GOES TO THEIR FARMERS
MARKETS. I MEAN THE BIA, UNLESS
YOU'RE IN THE COMMITTEE,
POINTED OUT THE CONSTRUCTION
IMPACTS AND CONCERNS AROUND
THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THEY
KNOW IS SHARED BROADLY BY
RESIDENTS ACROSS THE CITY. WHAT
ENGAGEMENT WAS DONE WITH JUST
THE AVERAGE RESIDENT ON THIS?
BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCE IS IF WE
DON'T DO THE OUTREACH ON THE
FRONT END, ON THE BACK END,
PEOPLE GET REALLY UPSET, AND
THERE WILL BE DISRUPTION.
THAT'S JUST NATURE. WE TRY TO
MITIGATE, BUT IT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN. THE THING IS PEOPLE GET
REALLY UPSET IF THEY DON'T KNOW
AHEAD OF TIME. ON THE BACK END,
THEY READ SOME POSTING, CPA
POSTING, THERE'S GOING TO BE A
DISRUPTION HERE, AND THAT'S HOW
THEY FOUND OUT, AND THEY FEEL
LIKE THEY WEREN'T BROUGHT
ALONG. THE STAKE HOLDER GROUPS
WE DO A GREAT JOB OF LETTING
THEM KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. THE
AVERAGE PERSON, NOT SO MUCH. I
WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT,
AND THEN I KNOW YOU MENTIONED,
LINDSAY, IN THE PLAN THAT IS
GOING TO BE IN THE CODE --
SORRY.
>> CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT?
>> EXACTLY. THERE'S OUTREACH
BEING DETAILED IN THERE, AND
MAYBE YOU CAN TALK MORE ABOUT
THAT BECAUSE IS THE PLAN TO DO
SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH BEFORE
THE PERMITTING GETS ISSUED? OR
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT POST? OR
AT WHAT POINT?
>> OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> AS FAR AS THE BROAD OUTREACH,
WE WERE TRYING TO BE IN THE
COMMUNITIES FIRST AND FOREMOST
THAT WERE BEING AFFECTED BY THE
LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT SYSTEM. THE
OPEN HOUSES THAT WERE HELD IN
2023 AND 2024 WERE SPECIFIC AND
OPEN AND AVAILABLE FOR ALL FOUR
STATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
LOCATED IN THE WEST SEATTLE
AREA. THERE WAS REPRESENTATION
AND OUTREACH GIVEN TO EACH OF
THE COMMUNITIES WITH STATIONS
LOCATED IN THOSE AREAS, AND
THERE WAS -- I CAN'T REMEMBER
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT CAME TO
THOSE MEETINGS.
>> AND I'D LIKE TO ADD, TOO,
THAT WHILE THAT WAS THE WEST
SEATTLE OPEN HOUSES, ONE OF THE
ADVANTAGES WE HAD IN DEVELOPING
THE CODE AMENDMENTS OVER THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS, SOUND
TRANSIT AT THE SAME TIME WAS
WORKING ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL
REVIEW PROCESS FOR BOTH WEST
SEATTLE AND BALLARD, WHICH MEANT
THERE HAVE BEEN EVENTS FOR THE
LAST FOUR YEARS THAT HAVE
BROUGHT COMMUNITY MEMBERS
TOGETHER AND DRAFT EIS WITH
COMMENTS. WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL
REVIEW STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN
COMBING THROUGH THE COMMENTS AND
LISTENING AT BOARD MEETINGS TO
COMMENTS FOR THE LAST FOUR OR
FIVE YEARS ON THE PROJECT, WHERE
WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PEAR FROM AFFECTED PROPERTY
OWNERS L THERE DISPLACEMENT OR
PUBLIC SAFETY OR ACCESS OR
CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACTS TO
ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS
IN WEST SEATTLE OR CONCERNS
ABOUT TREE LOSS SO WE HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO -- I WOULD SAY PIGGYBACK
ON LISTENING IN AND BEING PART
OF SOUND TRANSIT'S PROCESS OVER
THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS,
COVERING NOT ONLY THE GEOGRAPHY
THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY
THE WHOLE BREATH OF ISSUES THAT
COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE BRINGING.
>> VERY GOOD POINT. AND THEN
REGARDING THE PRELIMINARY
CONCERNS FOR MANAGEMENT PLANS
SPECIFICALLY, THE IDEA BEHIND
IT, IT WOULD BE CREATED IN DRAFT
FORM IN ADVANCE OF THE
PERMITTING PROCESS BEGINNING. SO
THAT AS THE PERMIT PROCESS
BEGINS, THE INFORMATION IS
AVAILABLE FOR BOTH PUBLIC REVIEW
AND COMMENT AS PART OF THE
PROCESS. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR EARLY ENGAGEMENT IN ADVANCE
OF PERMITTING, BUT WE HAVE NOT
COMMITTED AT A BROAD SCOPE TO
HOLDING PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR
EVERY PERMIT THAT COMES IN THE
DOOR. HOW WE PACKAGE OUR PUBLIC
MEETINGS REMAINS TO BE
DETERMINED. THE IDEA IS WE WOULD
BE IN THE COMMUNITY AND
SOLICITING FEEDBACK ON THE
CONSTRUCTION PLAN, SO THAT IF
PEOPLE'S CONCERNS ARE NOT
ADEQUATELY REPRESENTED IN THE
MANAGEMENT PLAN, THEY WOULD BE
ABLE TO DO A TIMELY COMMENT
BEFORE IT'S ACTIONABLE.
>> LINDSAY, COULD YOU DESCRIBE A
PERMIT THAT WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC
MEETING AND ONE THAT MIGHT NOT?
>> SURE. EVERY STATION WE INTEND
TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING
ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THERE ARE
ALSO OTHER MAJOR PERMITS THAT
ARE LOCATED IN SENSITIVE AREAS
LIKE PIGEON POINT OR LONG FELLOW
CREEK THAT HAVE BROAD PUBLIC
SIGNIFICANCE. WE WOULD
ANTICIPATE MEETINGS WHERE THERE
IS BROAD PUBLIC SIGNIFICANCE TO
HELP STREAMLINE THE PERMITTING
PROCESS.
>> THANK YOU, LINDSAY AND SARA.
I KNOW SARA, YOU'RE NO STRANGER
TO THIS HAVING WORKED ON THE
MERCER BLOCK. I HAVE -- MY FINAL
QUESTION, THANK YOU, CHAIR, IF
THAT'S OKAY? IS SO I HEAR WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO
DO THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
BEFORE YOU OR AS PART OF IT
SOUNDS LIKE THE PERMITTING
PROCESS, NOT BEFORE YOU DO THE
PERMITTING NECESSARILY?
>> IT COULD HAPPEN EITHER WAY.
WE COULD DO ENGAGEMENT BEFORE
STARTING PERMITTING IF IT
INFORMS MULTIPLE PERMITS
POTENTIALLY. IF IT'S ONE
PRIMARY PERMIT, WE MIGHT WANT TO
DO IT IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTING
PERIOD SO THERE COULD BE
ADVANTAGES TO TIMING IT EITHER
WAY.
>> SO IS THIS CONTAINED IN THE
PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT PLAN WHEN YOU'RE
GOING TO DO IT? IT SOUNDS LIKE
YOU HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION
YET? AND THEN THERE'S THE SOUND
TRANSIT A TOTALLY SEPARATE
ENTITY AND AGENCY THAT WE HAVE
NO CONTROL OVER. I GET THAT
PART, BUT -- THIS PART OF OUR
PERMITTING PROCESS, WE ARE DOING
THE ENGAGEMENT, AND PRESUMABLY
THEY ARE DOING THEIRS?
>> CORRECT.
>> HOPEFULLY WE HAVE SOME
INSIGHT INTO THEIRS, AND AT SOME
POINT THEY WILL BE SHARING?
>> I WILL SAY ONE THING THAT WE
DID LEARN FROM THE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HAVE
HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE, IT'S BEST TO
DO ENGAGEMENT WITH SOUND
TRANSIT. IF YOU ARE IN
COMMUNITY, WE BOTH WANT TO HEAR
WHAT COMMUNITY HAS TO SAY AND
HOW THAT WOULD INFORM OUR
PROCESS. ANY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE
DO IN COMMUNITY, SOUND TRANSIT
WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
REPRESENTING THEIR PROJECT. WE
WOULD NEED TO BE IN COORDINATION
OF SOUND TRANSIT AND REPRESENT
THE REGULATORY SIDE OF THE
MEETING THAT BEING SAID, THE
PUBLIC MEETING OF THE CODE
ELEMENT ISN'T SPECIFIC TO THE
PRELIMINARY MANAGEMENT
CONSTRUCTION PLAN. IT'S AN
OVERARCHING ALLOWANCE FOR US TO
HOLD PUBLIC MEETINGS WHEREVER WE
WOULD LIKE TO INFORM THE
PERMITTING PROCESS, SO WHEN YOU
SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW
WHEN WE ARE GOING TO HOLD IT,
THERE'S FLEXIBILITY IN THE CODE
TO HOLD IT WHEN IT'S MOST
IMPACTFUL TO THE PROJECT, BUT IT
ISN'T TIDE TO ANY ONE SPECIFIC
CODE AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE
PRESENTING. IT'S ABOVE AND
BEYOND ALL OF IT JUST TO INFORM
PERMITTING. SORRY IF THAT'S
CONFUSING.
>> IT'S NOT CONFUSING. I'M
JUST GLAD TO HEAR YOU ARE
WORKING WITH SOUND TRANSIT ON
THE ENGAGEMENT PLAN BECAUSE
THAT'S HOW I WOULD WANT TO DO
IT. IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, AND
WE SHOULD BE COLLABORATING AND
WORKING TOGETHER ON THE
COMMUNITY OUTREACH. I WOULD LIKE
TO -- AS PART OF THIS, HEAR A
MORE CONCRETE PLAN AND TIME LINE
FOR WHEN THAT ENGAGEMENT RATHER
THAN THIS FLEXIBILITY PIECE
BECAUSE --
>> GOT IT.
>> IT WOULD BE -- IT WOULD
INSPIRE MORE CONFIDENCE IF WE
KNEW LIKE THIS IS THE TIME LINE
FOR THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS
PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS,
VERSES THERE'S THE FLEXIBILITY
NOW.
>> GOT IT.
>> AND THEN THE PUBLIC, I MEAN
WE ARE CONSTANTLY IN THE SPACE
WITH PUBLIC WHERE THEY DON'T
ALWAYS TRUST GOVERNMENT.
>> SURE.
>> AND OUR AGENCIES.
>> YES.
>> THAT ARE AFFILIATED, AND IT
WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW AT WHAT
POINT.
>> PERFECT.
>> IN THIS PROCESS YOU WILL DO
THAT ENGAGEMENT.
>> THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN
CURRENTLY IS THAT THE PUBLIC
MEETING WOULD OCCUR DURING THE
PERMIT PROCESS. WE HAVE
SUGGESTED THAT IT WOULD BE MOST
TIMELY AND LESS IMPACTFUL TO THE
SCHEDULE PROCESS TO DO SO DURING
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. WE
WOULD HOLD THE PUBLIC MEETING
WHILE THE PUBLIC IS CURRENTLY
COMMENTING, SO AT THE BEGINNING
OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE BEFORE WE LET
THEM PROCEED? ALL RIGHT. SO
PLEASE PROCEED. I HAVE
QUESTIONS, TOO, BUT WE WILL WAIT
UNTIL THE END.
>> OKAY.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> BACK TO THE TVMP, THE TREE
AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT. WHERE
WE LEFT OFF, IT WAS ONE DOCUMENT
THAT WOULD ADDRESS TREE AND
VEGETATION BEFORE, DURING, AND
AFTER CONSTRUCTION. THE BENEFIT
IS A CONSOLIDATED DOCUMENT IN
LIEU OF A PERMIT BY PERMIT
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW. THE
ABILITY TO CREATE ONE PUBLIC
FACING DOCUMENT ALLOWS FOR THE
UPFRONT TREE LOSS AND WHERE
TREES WILL BE PLANTED AND
MAINTAINED. THAT IS UNIQUE AND
NOVEL AS FAR AS FREE MANAGEMENT
IS CONCERNED. WE INTEND TO DO
SPECIFIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
URBAN FORESTRY COMMISSION. WE
WENT TO THEM TO OUTLINE WHAT
SHOULD BE INCLUDE INNED THE TREE
AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE
CONCEPT, BUT WANTED TO GET MORE
INTO THE DETAILS. THAT'S WHERE
WE ENVISION A PHASE TWO
ENGAGEMENT WHERE THE DETAILS OF
THE PLAN WOULD BE SHARED WITH
THE URBAN AND FORESTRY
COMMISSION FOR THEIR FEEDBACK IN
ADVANCE OF BEING APPROVED.
TRIBES ALSO COMMENTED THEY WOULD
LIKE TO LOOK AT THE TREE AND
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN IN
ADVANCE OF IMPLEMENTING. THAT'S
PART OF THE 106 PROCESS AND HAD
BEEN ENVISIONED ALREADY. THE
OTHER MAJOR BENEFIT OF THE TREE
AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT IS
CREATING A HOLISTIC
FORWARD-FACING STRATEGY WITH THE
ABILITY TO START TREE
REPLACEMENT EARLIER AND DURING
CONSTRUCTION, NOT PLAYING
CATCHUP AFTER LIGHT RAIL IS
CONSTRUCTED, BUT BEING PROACTIVE
AND INCLUDING IT AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE. NEXT SLIDE. AS PART OF
OUR LAST BRIEFING ON APRIL 30th
, YOU REQUESTED SPECIFIC
INFORMATION ABOUT THE ABILITY TO
TRANSPLANT TREES. THE CITY HAS
TAKEN THAT REQUEST AND TURNAWAY,
AND CONFIRMED WITH OUR ARBORISTS
AND SOUND TRANSIT ARBORISTS
ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF BEING
ABLE TO DO THAT. , TRANSPLANTING
TREES. THERE'S A NUMBER OF
LIMITATIONS AND COST OUTCOMES
THAT WE NEED TO BRING TO YOUR
ATTENTION THAT WOULD PREVENT US
FROM UNIVERSALLY SAYING WE CAN
TRANSPLANT TREES OR NOT. IT
REQUIRES MORE WORK AND
INFORMATION AVAILABLE. THE
LIMITATIONS WE WANT TO
UNDERSTAND, SIZE, SPECIES,
GENUS, AND HEALTH ARE PARAMOUNT
TO IF A TREE SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED FOR TRANSPLANT IN THE
FIRST PLACE. ALSO THERE'S AN
ACCESSIBILITY CONCERN FOR BOTH
THE SENDING SITE AND RECEIVING
SITE. A SIMPLE WAY OF
CONSIDERING ACCESSIBILITY, IF
THERE'S POWER LINES FOR
INSTANCE NEXT TO A SITE, IT WILL
BE VERY HARD TO MOVE THE TREE
OFF THE SITE WITHOUT ASSOCIATED
COST FOR THE POWER LINES.
SECOND, THERE ARE WORSES OF THE
PROJECT IN UNIQUE GEOGRAPHIES
THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW THE
RELOCATION OF TREES. IMAGINE
SLOPES OR SLIDES. WE WILL NOT
HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE THEM
OUT OF THE HILLSIDES WITHOUT
CREATING HARM TO THE SURROUNDING
SITES. WE UNDERSTAND THAT LARGER
TREES ARE HARDER TO TRANSPLANT
AND HAVE A LOWER SURVIVAL RATE
THAT TYPICALLY IF THERE HAS BEEN
SUCCESS, IT IS WITH SMALLER
TREES THAT ARE MORE NIMBLE TO BE
TRANSPLANTED. THE THIRD BULLET
IS CRITICAL FOR US TO
UNDERSTAND. THE SEASON AND TIME
NEEDED FOR TRANSPLANTING MAY NOT
ALIGN WITH THE PROJECT SCHEDULE.
YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TRANSPLANT
TREES AT EVERY SEASON OF THE
YEAR. THAT IT IS LIMITED IN
SCOPE WHEN YOU CAN TRANSPLANT
TREES. YOU COUPLE THAT WITH THE
ACQUISITIONS ARE UNKNOWN, AND
WHEN THEY DO COME THROUGH, THEY
IMMEDIATELY LIKE TO START
CONSTRUCTION. THE SEQUENCE OF
ACQUIRING LAND OBTAINING PERMITS
AND STARTING CONSTRUCTION IS
VERY, VERY SEQUENTIAL, AND AT
THE STALE OF THE PERMITS WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT DELAYS OF WEEKS OR
MONTHS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO
CREATE KNOCK-DOWN EFFECTS ACROSS
THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT
SCHEDULE. IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER
OR NOT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ALIGN
THE PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS ALONG
WITH THE SEASON FOR
TRANSPLANTING, COUPLE THAT WITH
WHEN WE NEED TO START
CONSTRUCTION LOGISTICALLY HAS
MANY, MANY SCHEDULE
IMPLICATIONS. THE COST OF
TRANSPLANTING TREES IS
SIGNIFICANT. AS WE UNDERSTAND
IT, SOUND TRANSIT WOULD NOT BE
ABLE TO TRANSPLANT TREES WITHIN
THEIR OWN PROJECT FOOTPRINT
SINCE THEY ARE CONSTRUCTING
WITHIN THEIR PROJECT FOOTPRINT.
TREES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE
TRANSPLANTED WOULD BE
COORDINATED WITH THE CITY OF
SEATTLE TO CITY PROPERTY. THE
CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY
TO TRANSPLANT TREES OF THEIR OWN
AND WOULD NEED TO CONTRACT OUT
TO SPECIALISTS IN ORDER TO DO
SO. INITIAL ESTIMATES SEEM TO
COME IN BETWEEN 10 AND 100 TIMES
HIGHER THAN THE TREE
REPLACEMENT. IN A SCENARIO WHERE
SO MUCH COSTS ARE INCURRED,
SOUND TRANSIT HAS WHAT IS
CONSIDERED OR WHAT THEY CALL A
BETTERMENT POLICY. SOMETHING
THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND THE
CODE THAT INCURS A LOT OF COST
BECOMES THE RESPONSIBILITY OF
THE CITY TO PAY FOR. IT IS
UNCLEAR WHAT TRANSPLANTING TREES
WOULD BECOME BETTERMENTS, BUT
IT'S LIKELY A CONSIDERATION FOR
US MOVING FORWARD. LASTLY, THE
CITY HAS EXPERIENCED A COUPLE OF
DIFFERENT TRANSPLANTING RECENTLY
THAT HAD VERY LOW SURVIVAL RATE,
AND SO THE COST BENEFIT OF BEING
ABLE TO TRANSPLANT TREES IS IN
QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE MORE YOU WOULD ADD?
>> I COULD ADD, WE DID -- I WANT
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LINDSAY AND
I ARE NOT THE SUBJECT MATTER
EXPERTS IN URBAN FORESTRY OR
CERTAINLY TREE TRANSPLANTING. WE
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSULT
WITH OUR ARBORISTS AT THE CITY.
THE URBAN FORESTRY TEAM AT SDOT
AND OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND
ENVIRONMENT AND SEATTLE PARKS IN
DEVELOPING THESE -- THE
INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE. WE DO
HAVE A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC
EXAMPLES THAT THE CITY CAN POINT
TO IN RECENT HISTORY IN
TRANSPLANTING TREES THAT HAVE
NOT YIELDED SURVIVAL OF THE
TREES, AND THERE'S A GOOD DEAL
OF HESITATION ABOUT THE UP-FRONT
COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT
IS NOT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE
OR TECHNICAL ABILITY THE CITY
HAS. WE HAVE TO CONTRACT OUT,
AND THE LOW SURVIVAL RATE OF THE
TREES. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT
TO APPROACH WITH A LOT OF
CAUTION. I ALSO WANT TO
UNDERSCORE FROM THE POINT OF THE
CITY'S INVOLVEMENT IN ANY
IDENTIFICATION OF BETTERMENTS,
WE THINK THIS WOULD LIKELY
QUALIFY AS A BETTERMENT UNDER
POLICY AND POINTING TO THE
GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT JUST
ADOPTED LAST MONTH ABOUT
PRECLUDING THE SITING OF AN
ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITY THAT
STATES THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR ENSURING A TIMELY -- SHOOT,
I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THE EXACT
WORDS WITH ME. TIMELY ISSUANCE
OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS THAT
IS ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN AN
EXPEDITED MATTER. THAT THIS
CONCEPT, WHILE I THINK COMING
FROM A PLACE OF ABSOLUTELY
WANTING TO PRESERVE ECOLOGICAL
FUNCTIONING AND CANOPY, WE THINK
WOULD INTRODUCE UNCERTAINTY TO
THE SCHEDULE IN A WAY THAT COULD
TRIGGER SOME OF THOSE STATUTORY
CONCERNS.
>> WE DO, THOUGH, WANT TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING TO GET
READY, KIND OF PIVOTING TO
THERE'S A LOT THAT THE CITY IS
DOING TO PREPARE FOR OUR ROLE IN
THE TREE AND VEGETATION
MANAGEMENT PLAN. LINDSAY, MAYBE
I WILL LET YOU TAKE THOSE
BULLETS, AND I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THE LAST ONE.
>> OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU
FOR THE TAG TEAM.
>> REALLY QUICK. WE DO HAVE SOME
MEMBERS WHO DO HAVE A HARD STOP
IN A FEW MINUTES, SO I'M
WONDERING IF WE CAN PAUSE HERE
FOR THEM TO ASK THE QUESTIONS
THEY MAY HAVE OR HOW MUCH LONGER
DO YOU HAVE ON YOUR
PRESENTATION?
>> I THINK THERE'S TWO MORE
SLIDES MAYBE. NOT TOO MUCH. YOU
WANT TO LET THEM ROLL?
>> YEAH.
>> CONTINUE, PLEASE.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY. WE ARE PREPARING FOR
THE TREE AND VEGETATION
MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE NEXT STEP
IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TREE
AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN
IS TO REVIEW THE DRAFT PLAN. THE
CITY WILL COMPLETE ITS FIRST
REVIEW IN THE COMING QUARTERS,
AND WE WILL GO OUT FOR PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT ON THE PLAN AS NOTED
WITH THE URBAN FORESTRY
COMMISSION AND AVAILABLE MORE
GENERALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO
ENGAGE IN THE PLAN. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE
DIRECTORS MUST APPROVE THE PLAN
BEFORE IT'S ADOPTED, AND WE
HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE
LARGER TREES WITHIN THE
FOOTPRINT WHEN FEASIBLE. YOU CAN
SEE WHAT SOUND TRANSIT CALLS THE
VEGETATED CLEAR ZONE AROUND THE
GUIDEWAY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO
NOTE WHILE SOUND TRANSIT IS
ACQUIRING LAND TO BUILD THE
GUIDEWAY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
INFORM WHERE AND HOW TREES ARE
PLACED AROUND THE GUIDEWAY WHILE
STILL MAINTAINING THE CLEAR ZONE
AROUND IT. NOT ALL AREAS OF THE
GUIDEWAY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE TREES, BUT THOSE AREAS THAT
DO, WE WILL ENCOURAGE THE
LARGEST TREES POSSIBLE.
>> AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
POINTS OF THIS IS THAT THERE ARE
GOING BE A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE
GOING TO NEED TO BE REPLACED
OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT
FOOTPRINT. WE ARE DEVELOPING A
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE
ST3 TREE REPLACEMENT THAT WILL
HAPPEN OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT
AREA, AND IN THAT, WE WILL BE
ABLE TO CONSIDER, AGAIN, THE
STRATEGIES TO ENCOURAGE CONFERS
AND LARGER TREES AND ASSESS THE
TRANSPLANT OF TREES THAT WOULD
BE APPROPRIATE.
>> AND THEN JUST TO BRING HOME
THE FINAL PART ABOUT THE CODE
AMENDMENTS GENERALLY. WE HAVE
BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY FOR MANY
YEARS TO HELP CREATE THE CODE
AMENDMENTS IN ORDER TO
STREAMLINE THE HUNDREDS OF
PERMITS THAT WE ANTICIPATE. OUR
GOALS ARE TO CREATE CLEAR
STANDARDS, STREAMLINE THE PERMIT
PROCESS, MAINTAIN AND SHEPHERD A
TRANSPARENT AND PUBLIC PROCESS,
AND ALWAYS MAINTAIN OUR
AUTHORITY TO ASSESS AND MITIGATE
IMPACTS OF LIGHT RAIL
CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION.
>> AND THIS IS OUR LAST SLIDE.
NEXT STEPS, EXPECTING A PUBLIC
HEARING ON MAY 29th, AND THERE
WILL BE ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION
LATER THIS YEAR RELATED TO WEST
SEATTLE, AND THEN PERMITTING FOR
WEST SEATTLE IS EXPECTED TO
START IN EARNEST IN Q3 AND Q4.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU
TO THE TEAM AND THE PRESENTATION
TODAY. THE LAST TIME WE TALKED
AND SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE THAT,
INDIVIDUALLY IN MY OFFICE,
COLLEAGUES THIS IS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION THAT KEEPS US MOVING
TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER LIGHT RAIL
FASTER, MORE EFFICIENTLY WITH
LESS EXPENSE. WHAT I MEAN BY
THAT, IF WE RETAIN THE CURRENT
SYSTEM AS WITHOUT THIS BILL, WE
WILL BE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME
AND MONEY ON PROCESSES RATHER
THAN OUTCOMES. THIS BILL IS
DESIGNED TO RETAIN ALL OF THE
DIFFERENT STEPS AND PROCEDURES
FOR EVERYONE TO BE ENGAGED AND
INVOLVED, AND IT BATCHES THEM IN
TO PROCESSES THAT CREATE MORE
EFFICIENCY. THIS IS NEEDED.
IT'S NEEDED NOW BECAUSE WORK ON
WEST SEATTLE IS ALREADY
OCCURRING. I'M TAKING A TOUR IN
NINE MINUTES. WORK THAT IS
SUPPOSED TO BE GOING ON IN
SEATTLE FOR THE WEST SEATTLE
SEGMENT THAT THIS BILL DIRECTLY
APPLIES TO. WE DON'T HAVE TIME
TO WAIT. I THANK EVERYONE FOR
THEIR WORK. I URGE A YES VOTE.
THANK YOU, CHAIR. RY MUCH, CHAI
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ALL OF
YOU FOR COMING BACK WITH THE
MUCH MORE FLUSHED OUT
PRESEASONNATION ON THE TREE AND
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PLAN. I
APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT HAS
GONE IN TO THAT. I GUESS I WOULD
SAY I STILL HAVE A FAIR NUMBER
OF QUESTIONS, BASICALLY WHAT
I'M HEARING IS THAT IT'S GOING
TO BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A
VARIETY OF REASONS TO TRANSPLANT
TREES, AND I GUESS I'M NOT
QUITE READY TO GIVE UP ON THAT.
SO I WILL CERTAINLY HAVE
QUESTIONS AND THINGS I WOULD
LIKE TO PURSUE OFFLINE. I THINK
IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO WORK
WITH THE URBAN FORESTRY
COMMISSION AND ASSESSING WHERE
WE CAN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSPLANT
TREES, SO I JUST WON'T GO IN TO
ALL OF MY QUESTIONS AT THIS
POINT, BUT BOTH TO APPRECIATE
THE SORT OF HOLISTIC APPROACH, I
REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT RATHER
THAN PERMIT BY PERMIT, BUT I
THINK THERE'S STILL SOME ROOM
FOR MORE TREE PRESERVATION THAN
WHAT HAS BEEN PUT HERE. I WOULD
LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU. THANK YOU
FOR THE PRESENTATION WITH THE
URBAN FORESTRY COMMISSION. THANK
YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I AGREE
WITH MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. I FEEL LIKE I UNDERSTAND
THE CHALLENGES YOU HAVE
PRESENTED AROUND PRESERVING A
TREE, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I
FEEL LIKE WE CAN -- WE OUGHT TO
BE ABLE TO DO THOSE CALCULATIONS
AS THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH
CONSTRUCTION. I UNDERSTAND,
PERHAPS, WE CAN'T SAVE ALL OF
THE TREES, BUT I THINK IT'S
HARDER ON THE OUTSET OR EASIER
ON THE OUTSET TO SAY ALL OF THE
REASONS WHY IT WOULD BE
DIFFICULT AND THEN NOT DO IT,
RATHER THAN LET'S SEE IF THERE
ARE SOME OF THOSE THAT CAN BE
PRESERVED. THAT SHOULD BE PART
OF THIS CONVERSATION. AND THEN
WE ARE MAKING REALLY INFORMED
DECISIONS VERSES LIKE A WHOLE --
WE CAN'T DO IT, SO WE ARE NOT
GOING TO DO IT, IF THAT MAKES
SENSE. I DO APPRECIATE, THOUGH
THAT YOU LOOKED INTO THIS. I
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK YOU
HAVE DONE SO FAR INTO LOOKING
INTO THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
SOME KIND OF PLAN FOR, CAN WE
SAVE SOME OF THE TREES,
UNDERSTANDING WE ARE NOT GOING
TO BE ABLE TO SAVE ALL OF THEM.
IT SHOULDN'T BE ALL OR NONE
BECAUSE IT'S HARD. IT SHOULD BE
WHAT CAN WE DO? NOT WHAT CAN'T
WE DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
CHAIR.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RINCK?
>> THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK.
I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT THE
IMPORTANT LEGISLATION TO KEEP
PROJECTS ON TRACK. AS A POINT OF
CURIOSITY, APPRECIATE THE
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RELATED
TO TREES. I'M PARTICULARLY
STRUCK BY THE BULLET POINT
AROUND COST, SEEING THAT
TRANSPLANTING TREES INDICATES
HIGHER COSTS 10 TO 100 TIMES
HIGHER THAN A TREE REPLACEMENT.
CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT? ARE
THERE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES YOU
CAN POINT TO IN TERMS OF HOW
MUCH ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO EXPAND ON IT A LITTLE BIT. WE
HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
WITH SOME, AGAIN, WE ARE NOT THE
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, BUT
THERE'S AN EFFORT AND A
PARTNERSHIP ACROSS SEVERAL
DEPARTMENTS RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE
BEEN LOOKING AT SUCCESSFUL TREE
TRANSPLANT EXAMPLES FROM OTHER
AREAS, AND THERE WAS A RECENT
EXAMPLE IN BOISE THAT HAS HAD A
GOOD DEAL OF ATTENTION WHERE IN
WHICH A SEQUOIA WAS MOVED FROM A
DEVELOPMENT, ESSENTIALLY A
HOSPITAL I UNDERSTAND, AND IT
WAS MOVED TO A GREEN FIELD SITE
ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY OR NOT VERY
FAR AWAY. THE TOTAL COST
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WAS
APPROXIMATELY $300,000,
INVOLVING PREP WORK A YEAR IN
ADVANCE TO THE ROOT SYSTEM TO
GET THE TREE -- I GUESS THERE'S
A PRUNING PROCESS YOU DO TO THE
ROOTS ABOUT A YEAR IN ADVANCE
AND GIVE THE TREE SOME TIME TO
REPAIR FOR THAT, ABOUT A YEAR IN
ADVANCE OF MOVING. IT REQUIRED
CLEAR ACCESS TO THE PRE AND POST
TRANSPLANT SITES. AS LINDSAY
MENTIONED, POWER LINES OR
GETTING HEAVY MACHINERY ON THE
RECEIVING AND SENDING SITE FOR
THAT LARGE-SCALE MACHINERY. IN
THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THEY WERE
ABLE TO CLEAR THE ACCESS ROOT.
IT WAS A SHORT, LEVEL ROOT, TO
MOVE THE TREE FROM ONE SITE TO
ANOTHER. AND THEN THERE WAS FIVE
YEARS OF MAINTENANCE THAT WAS
INVOLVED FOLLOWING THE
TRANSPLANTING, BY A PRIVATE
CONTRACTOR THAT INCLUDED
IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AT THE ROOTS,
IRRIGATION SYSTEMS IN THE CROWN,
AND A FULL ANCHOR SYSTEM TO
SUPPORT THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE,
AND ALL OF THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE
FOR FIVE YEARS BY A PRIVATE
CONTRACTOR BEFORE IT WAS HANDED
OVER TO THE FOLKS THERE. THAT'S
OUR UNDERSTANDING THERE. AT FIVE
YEARS, THE TREE IS STILL ALIVE.
WE HAVE NOT HAD SIMILAR SUCCESS
WITH RECENT TREE PLANTINGS IN
THE CITY OF SEATTLE. THAT GIVES
YOU AN IDEA OF THE SCALE AND
AMOUNT OF TIME IN ADVANCE. A
YEAR OF PREPWORK, BUT MAY ASK A
FOLLOWUP?
>> THAT 300,000 FIGURE, DOES
THAT INCLUDE THE FIVE YEARS OF
MAINTENANCE WORK? OR IS THAT
JUST THE INITIAL YEAR OF PREP
AND MOVING IT?
>> OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? IN MY
NOTES I DON'T HAVE IT
EXPLICITLY. I BELIEVE IT
INCLUDED SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE
WORK, BUT I COULD FIND THAT OUT
FROM THE FOLKS THEY BELIEVE THE
SEATTLE PARKS THAT ARE DOING
THAT RESEARCH.
>> CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT. I WOULD
LOVE A FOLLOWUP JUST FOR THE
CLARITY. CERTAINLY THE NUMBERS
HELP TO COLOR A LITTLE MORE IN
TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT WITH THE EFFORTS. CHAIR
THAT CONCLUDES MY EFFORTS. THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I'M
EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS
LEGISLATION.
>> I SEE COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP AGAIN?
>> I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME
CONTEXT. ACTUALLY IT'S REALLY
UNFORTUNATE THAT SOMETHING THAT
WAS SO INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL IS
BEING USED AS A MODEL HERE TO
SHOOT DOWN A SIMILAR ATTEMPT
HERE. PERSONAL, ADDITIONAL DATA
SHOWS THAT ACTUALLY THE GIANT
SEQUOIA BEING CUT DOWN TODAY AT
GREEN LAKE COULD HAVE ACTUALLY
BEEN MOVED WITHOUT HAVING TO
BEGIN THE TREE ROOT PRUNING
EARLIER BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON
SEQUOIAS ARE MUCH EASIER TO
TRANSPLANT. THERE WERE MANY
PEOPLE THAT COULD HAVE MADE THIS
HAPPEN FOR LESS COST, SO I JUST
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE
THAT MUCH OF THIS IS BASED ON
THE SPECIES OF THE TREE AND THE
WILLINGNESS TO GET IT DONE AND
NOT USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE. IT
WAS A UNIQUE EXAMPLE OF A VERY,
VERY BIG AND VERY, VERY OLD
TREE, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO
FIND GIANT SEQUOIAS ALL ALONG
THIS PROPOSED ROUTE, SO LET'S
NOT USE THAT EXCEPTION, WHICH
ACTUALLY COULD HAVE BEEN DONE
HERE FOR LESS MONEY AND DONE NOW
TO SAY THAT THIS CANNOT BE DONE
AND IT IS UNSUCCESSFUL. I WOULD
APPRECIATE FURTHER CLARIFICATION
ABOUT ALL OF THIS BECAUSE
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
DISCUSSION WITH THE ARBORISTS
AND PARKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT BEING
ABLE TO MOVE THE GIANT SEQUOIA
TODAY AND OTHER TREES, AND
THERE'S MANY REASONS THINGS
HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
ANOTHER THING I WOULD LOOK AT,
WHAT IS THE SURVIVAL RATE OF
SAPLINGS VERSES TRANSPLANTED
TREES. A VERY LOW RATE OF
SAPLINGS, AND THEY REQUIRE
SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT AND TIME.
THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. JUST FOR
CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, THERE
WILL NOT BE A VOTE ON THIS TODAY
BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING PUBLIC
HEARING ON THE 29th. OKAY. AND
WE WILL BE VOTING ON THE 29th
ON THIS. IT'S UP TO ME? COOL,
ALL RIGHT. OKAY, SO A COUPLE OF
FOLLOWUP QUESTIONS, AND ALSO
RELATED TO THE TREES, I KNOW WE
HAD DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF
TREE LOCATION VERSES TREE
REPLACEMENT. THE INFORMATION
ABOUT THE SURVIVAL RATE IS VERY
GOOD TO HAVE, BUT AS, YOU KNOW,
HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW,
MAYBE IT'S GENUS SPECIFIC, TIME
OF YEAR SPECIFIC, TIER SPECIFIC,
SO, AGAIN, GOOD INFORMATION,
GOOD CLARIFICATION TO HAVE. I
WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WHERE
POSSIBLE, PRESERVE RATHER THAN
REPLACE, AND IF THAT MEAN YOU
DESIGN AROUND THE THING, DESIGN
AROUND IT. OKAY, IT'S A COUPLE
MORE CURVES. SO WHAT? AND SINCE,
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE HIGHLIGHTED
SEPTED IN TERMS OF STATION
DESIGN, I ALSO WANT TO FOLLOW UP
WITH THAT CONCEPT WHEN IT COMES
TO VEGETATION AND LIGHTING. SO
MY ENCOURAGEMENT TO THE PLANNERS
OF THESE STATIONS IS LOOK AT THE
VEGETATION PLAN AND LIGHTING
PLAN AND PUT THEM ON TOP OF EACH
OTHER AND MAKE SURE THEY DON'T
CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. THE
LIGHTING PLAN WHEN THE TREE PLAN
COMES INTO FULL MATURITY IT
BLOCKS IT. CAN YOU GO BACK TO
SLIDE NINE PLEASE? AND THIS IS
WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
DISPLACEMENT AND THE -- I GUESS
COMPENSATION FOR THE FOLKS WHO
WILL BE DISPLACED? I KNOW
THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
BUSINESSES GETTING UP TO 200K,
AND ADJUSTMENTS FOR INFLATION
FOR THE DISPLACEMENT OF THEIR
BUSINESSES, AND THAT DOESN'T
TELL ME WHAT ABOUT THE SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FOLKS. HOW
ARE THEY GOING TO BE MADE WHOLE
IF THEIR PROFIT IS IN THE PATH
OF THE RAIL? AND YOU KNOW,
CONSIDERING HOUSING PRICES IN
SEATTLE, 200K AIN'T GOING TO
CUT IT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
>> THE 200K, JUST TO NOTE THAT
IS RELATED TO THE BUSINESS
REESTABLISHMENT. IT'S NOT FOR
THE PHYSICAL -- THE ACTUAL
PROPERTY RELOCATION ASSISTANCE
PROVIDED WHETHER RESIDENTIAL OR
BUSINESS IS SEPARATE FROM THE
REESTABLISHMENT COMPONENT. WE
WANT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE I
JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT IS
SOUND TRANSIT AND SOUND
TRANSIT'S ROLE TO PROVIDE THE
RELOCATION ASSISTANCE, AND WE
DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH TO
IT, OR OVERSPEAK TO IT, BUT THAT
DURING THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION
PROCESS, RELOCATION ASSISTANCE,
WHETHER IT'S TO TENANTS,
PROPERTY OWNERS, OR BUSINESSES
ARE PROVIDED THROUGH A
COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE NEGOTIATED
WITH SOUND TRANSIT. SOUND
TRANSIT'S REAL PROPERTY
DIVISION IS WORKING WITH
PROPERTY OWNERS. THEY HAVE BEEN
WORKING IN WEST SEATTLE WITH
EARLY ACQUISITIONS IDENTIFIED BY
THE BOARD LAST YEAR, WELL IN
ADVANCE OF PERMITTING, THEY WERE
HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS WITH
AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS. WE ARE
SUPPORTING THAT PROCESS. WE
WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET
INFORMATION BACK TO THIS COUNCIL
FROM SOUND TRANSIT ABOUT THE
SPECIFICS. I THINK THAT IT IS
VERY SPECIFIC TO EACH PROPERTY
WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE
RELOCATION ASSISTANCE ENDS UP
BEING BECAUSE IT'S SENSITIVE TO
THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
>> AND THEN IF YOU GO TO SLIDE
12 PLEASE? YEAH, THE WHOLE PART
OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
THERE'S A CONCERN, AND LET'S
SAY THERE'S BEEN A HISTORY OF
CONCERN ABOUT SOUND TRANSIT
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, HAVE THEY
BEEN FULLY TRANSPARENT? HAVE
THEY BEEN FULLY ENGAGING WITH
NEIGHBORHOODS? WE CAN THINK OF
SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THAT
HAS BEEN THE CONCERN OR USE
COULD EVEN SAY THE CRITICISM,
HEY, WE WERE REALLY NEVER REALLY
BROUGHT INTO THE PROCESS, SO AS
WE LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR
PROJECT AND WE LOOK AT THIS
PARTICULAR AMENDMENTS THAT WE
ARE LOOKING TO MAKE TO CODE,
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT I THINK FOR
EVERYONE ON THIS PANEL THAT
THERE'S BEEN SINCERE AND
GENUINE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
YOU KNOW, NOT JUST TO THE BIA,
WHICH ALSO VERY IMPORTANT.
THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF MY
QUESTIONS, BUT TO THE COMMUNITY
AS A WHOLE. HOW MUCH OPPORTUNITY
DOES THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE
HOW MUCH HAVE THEY HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN? THAT'S
VERY IMPORTANT TO US. WE WANT TO
MAKE SENSE OF THAT, AND IF THERE
NEEDS TO BE MORE ENGAGEMENT
BAKED IN BEFORE STUFF HAPPENS,
BEFORE WE PUT PEN TO PAPER OR
WHATEVER, I THINK YOU MAY BE
SEEING THE REQUEST, LET'S MAKE
SURE WE ARE DOING OUR PART, AND
AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN'T
CONTROL WHAT SOUND TRANSIT DOES,
BUT WE CAN CONTROL WHAT WE DO.
SO, AGAIN, WANT TO PUT THAT OUT
THERE, AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE
HAVE THE MOST ROBUST COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT WE CAN PRIOR TO PEN
GOING TO PAPER OR SHOVEL HITTING
DIRT.
>> COULD I JUST RESPOND REALLY
QUICKLY?
>> YEAH.
>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT
UP. I THINK WE JUST WANT TO SAY
WE SHARE THAT CONCERN, AND I
THINK WHEN WE LOOK AGAIN AT
THESE PROCESS-RELATED
IMPROVEMENTS, ALL THREE OF THOSE
WILL BAKE IN ADDITIONAL
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WOULD
NOT EXIST UNDER THE CURRENT
CODE.
>> OKAY.
>> THIS IS VERY MUCH AT THE
FOREFRONT OF OUR MINDS AND
SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD DURING
THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS IS THAT
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
PERMIT PROCESS ISN'T JUST AN
ADMINISTRATIVE EXERCISE, YOU
KNOW, ON THE 19th FLOOR OF THE
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL TOWER PERMIT
BY PERMIT, BUT RATHER AN UP
FRONT OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE
COMMUNITY CAN SEE ALL OF THE
CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS IN THE
GEOGRAPHY AND HAVE A CHANCE TO
BE INVOLVED IN WHAT THE
CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN OR
TREE AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT
PLAN LOOK LIKE.
>> OKAY, AND WILL THAT BE IN
WRITING?
>> YES, THAT'S IN THE CODE
AMENDMENT.
>> SWEET. OKAY, COOL.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, DID YOU
HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CHIME
IN ON?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR SOLOMON, MY
APOLOGIES FOR MISREADING MY
CALENDAR. I WAS READING 30
MINUTES AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, AND
THAT'S WHY I RETURNED HERE.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PAYMENTS
FOR EITHER PEOPLE OR BUSINESSES
THAT ARE BEING DISPLACED, IT HAS
BEEN CONTROVERSIAL OVER THE
YEARS WHICH IS WHY THERE'S SUCH
A VERY PRESCRIPTIVE SITUATION TO
ADDRESS EACH AND EVERY PLACE. I
BELIEVE THERE WAS A BILL BEFORE
THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR THAT
PASSED THAT MAKES SOME CHANGES.
THERE'S A -- FOR BETTER OR FOR
WORSE, THERE'S A VERY CLEAR
FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT DOES AND DOES
NOT OCCUR. I ALSO WANT TO FLAG
FOR THE CONVERSATIONS, WE GOT
INTO THE CONVERSATION OF
BETTERMENTS. IT'S A TERM OF ART
WITH SOUND TRANSIT. IT IS THE --
AND WE PASSED THE SOUND TRANSIT
POLICIES EARLIER THIS YEAR OR
LAST YEAR, AND REALLY CREATING
CLEAR, IN OR OUT POLICIES FOR
BETTERMENT. WHAT IS, WHAT IS NOT
A BETTERMENT. WHO IS AND WHO IS
NOT PAYING FOR THAT BETTERMENT
BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN A DIFFERENT
APPLICATION IN DIFFERENT CITIES
AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE LIGHT
RAIL SYSTEM, AND SO THERE'S,
AGAIN, A CLEAR POLICY THAT WE
JUST HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THAT IF
WE ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS,
IT'S NOT SOUND TRANSIT THAT
WILL BE PAYING FOR CERTAIN
THINGS IT WILL BE THE CITY OF
SEATTLE, SO JUST WANTED TO KEEP
THAT CONVERSATION GOING, AND
LOOKING FORWARD TO -- YOU SAID
THIS IS GOING TO BE VOTED ON IN
THE NEXT COMMITTEE S THAT
CORRECT?
>> YES, IT WILL.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT WE PASS THIS
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE AT
THIS POINT, THE RECORD OF
DECISION HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR
WEST SEATTLE. WE ARE AT THE
GO-NO GO STAGE. IF THE COUNCIL
IS A NO GO, EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW
THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
>> YES, UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
>> LOOKING TO SEE IF I HAVE ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS? LAST ONE ABOUT
THE ENGAGEMENT. SO, YOU KNOW,
YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT WITH STAKEHOLDERS.
CAN YOU SPEAK BRIEFLY TO HOW
HAVE THE CONCERNS RAISED DURING
THOSE ENGAGEMENTS BEEN
INCORPORATED INTO PLANS FOR
CONSTRUCTION OR MITIGATION?
>> SO SPECIFICALLY THE
CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN AND
HOW THE CONCERNS -- OKAY.
STAKEHOLDERS AT THE SODO AND
DOWNTOWN ENTRANCE STEERING
COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY CONCERNED
ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT OF
BUSINESSES AND RESIDENCES IN
THEIR GEOGRAPHIC AREA WHILE
CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY, AND
NOT JUST ONE CONSTRUCTION
PROJECT, BUT MULTIPLE PROJECT
IMPACTS BEING CONSIDERED
CUMULATIVELY, AND THE
PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT PLAN HAS NEVER BEEN
VISIONED IN THE CODE BEFORE, AND
SPECIFYING THAT WE NEED TO
CONSIDER CONSTRUCTION
IMHOLISTICALLY IS THE CONCEPT
THAT IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIVE.
SOUND TRANSIT WOULD BE COMING IN
AND ASSESSING THE IMPACT OF THE
PERMITS ALONE. WE ARE ASKING
THEM TO ASSESS THE IMPACTS OF
THE PERMIT IN RELATIONSHIP TO
THE PERMITS IN THE GEOGRAPHY.
THE DOWN TOUR CORE, FRICTION, IF
YOU HAVE THREE STATIONS UNDER
CONSTRUCTION AT ONE TIME, HOW DO
GOODS MOVE AROUND THE DOWNTOWN
CORE IN THAT SCENARIO? YOU
CAN'T LOOK AT IT WITH JUST ONE
STATION. YOU HAVE TO THINK OF
THREE IF THEY WILL BE UNDER
CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT IS WHERE THE PRELIMINARY
CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN IS
BEING RESPONSIVE. IT CREATES THE
TOOL FOR US TO DO THAT
ASSESSMENT WITH SOUND TRANSIT
AND HAVE IT BE TRANSPARENT AND
PUBLIC FACING FOR THOSE
COMMUNITY STAKE HOLDERS TO
PARTICIPATE IN.
>> IF I COULD JUST ADD QUICKLY
THAT IS A CONCERN THAT CAME UP
IN THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, I
WOULD SAY FROM THE SODO BUSINESS
OWNERS, PORT OF SEATTLE, ALL
THROUGH DOWNTOWN, SEATTLE
CENTER, THEY WERE VOCAL IN OUR
ENGAGEMENT ABOUT THE CONCERNS
RELATED TO OUR CONSTRUCTION, BUT
BY PUTTING THIS IN THE CODE, IT
IMPACTS THE BUSINESSES AND
RESIDENTS WITH THE UPFRONT
MITIGATION PLANNING IN ADVANCE
OF PERMITTING.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> CHAIR, THANK YOU. SARA, THANK
YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THAT
BECAUSE THIS IS AN SDOT PIECE.
HOW ARE YOU MOVING FOLKS AROUND
WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS HAPPENING?
FOLKS HAVE HAD IN THE PAST AND
CURRENTLY A LOT OF FRUSTRATION
WITH SDOT AND THEIR ABILITY TO
MANAGE FOR TRAFFIC AND MOVING OF
PEOPLE AND GOODS DURING THIS
TIME. SO THAT IS VERY MUCH PART
OF THE OUTREACH I'M TALKING
ABOUT AT THE FRONT END AND
MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE TALKING
TO FOLKS ABOUT BEFORE IS
IMPORTANT. AND I WILL SAY THAT
JUST HAVING YESTERDAY, TRYING TO
GET AROUND THE MARKET WITH ALL
OF THE CLOSURES, AND THERE DOES
SEEM TO BE EVEN IN THE TIMING OF
THE LIGHTS CHANGING IS ONE WAY
THAT YOU COULD DO TO MITIGATE
FOR MOVING PEOPLE AROUND, AND
FROM WHAT I SAW YESTERDAY, IT
DID NOT INSPIRE CONFIDENCE
BECAUSE I AM NOT -- I AM NO
TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I'M
SITTING THERE THINKING F THIS
LIGHT HAD CHANGED AT THE SAME
TIME AS THIS LIGHT, WE WOULD BE
MOVING PEOPLE FASTER THAN JUST
NOW WAITING, AND BY THE TIME THE
LIGHT -- YOU GET THE PICTURE.
YOU HAVE DONE THIS, TOO. SO, YOU
KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE
TRAFFIC. IT'S BUSES, AND IT'S
JUST FOOT TRAFFIC, SO YOU KNOW,
ALL OF THESE EXPERIENCES ARE
LEGITIMATE REASONS FOLKS MAY
HAVE CONCERN. I JUST WANT TO
MAKE SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS
ON THE FRONT END WITH THE
COMMUNITY FOLKS, RESIDENTS, AND
BUSINESSES WHO ARE IMPACTED AND
WILL BE EVERY DAY. AGAIN, I'M
GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE I
SAID IT LAST TIME, I AM
SUPPORTIVE OF SOUND TRANSIT 3.
I'M A BIG PUBLIC TRANSIT
ADVOCATE. DID NOT HAVE A
DRIVER'S LICENSE UNTIL I WAS
30. TRUE STORY. THIS IS NOT
MEANT TO BE AN OBSTRUCTIONIST.
WE NEED TO DO THE OUTREACH ON
THE FRONT END ROBUSTLY SO ON THE
BACK END WE MITIGATE FOR FOLKS
GETTING REALLY UPSET BECAUSE WE
KNOW IT'S COMING. SO I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING
BEFOREHAND, AND THEN AS IT IS
OCCURRING, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO KEEP GOING THESE OUTREACH
POINTS, AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD
LOVE TO SEE SOME KIND OF
OUTREACH WITH TIME LINE PLAN FOR
AS THESE PERMITS ARE COMING UP,
HOW WE ARE GOING TO ENGAGE WITH
FOLKS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE
ARE DOING THIS WORK AND NOT JUST
SOUND TRANSIT, BUT SDOT IS VERY
MUCH A BIG PARTNER IN THIS AND
WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO
MITIGATE THINGS. IT'S NOT JUST
NAMING IT NOW, ACKNOWLEDGING IT
NOW, AND THEN DURING. IT'S THAT
WE NEED TO DO SOME THINGS,
OUTREACHWISE DURING AS WELL I'M
JUST NOT HEARING THAT. THANK
YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S SEE, ANY
OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE? ANY FINAL COMMENTS
FROM THE PANEL?
>> I THINK THE ONE THING I WOULD
LIKE TO SAY WITH REGARDS TO THE
OUTREACH PLAN, OUTREACH SHOULD
BE A HOLISTIC STRATEGY. THERE
SHOULD BE CODE ENGAGEMENT, BUT
THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE ONLY
PLACE SPECIFYING THE ENGAGEMENT
DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY. NOT
NECESSARILY RELYING ON CODE TO
SPECIFY EVERY SINGLE ENGAGEMENT
OPPORTUNITY, BUT TO DEVELOP A
HOLISTIC ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY
WITH SDOT THAT GOES ABOVE AND
BEYOND JUST THE INDIVIDUAL
PERMITS WE ARE CREATING THOSE
REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AROUND.
>> ALL OF THAT.
>> OF IT.
>> YOU WANT A BIGGER STRATEGY.
>> YEP, THANK YOU.
>> THANKS, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR
BEING HERE TODAY AND PRESENTING.
AS WAS MENTIONED, WE WILL HAVE A
MEETING ON THE 29th. THERE WILL
BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT
MEETING, AND I AM ANTICIPATING
WE WILL VOTE AT THAT MEETING AS
WELL. SO THAT ACTUALLY CONCLUDES
OUR -- YOU KNOW THE AGENDA ITEMS
FOR THE MEETING TODAY. SO IF
THERE IS A -- IS THERE ANY
FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE
THE COMMITTEE? OKAY, HEARING
NONE, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE
THURSDAY, MAY 29th AT 2:00 P.M.
HEARING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE
ARE ADJOURNED. THE TIME IS
10:47. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
EVERYONE.