MEMBERS PRESENT.
>> GREAT. UP THERE WERE NO
OBJECTIONS, THE AGENDA WILL BE
ADOPTED. HEARING NO OBJECTION,
THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. I DO WANT
TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE
TODAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO
THIS THURSDAY AFTERNOON,
TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY , I WILL
FIGURE OUT WHAT DAY IT IS. THE
MEETING OF THE LAND USE -- YOU
KNOW. AS ALWAYS, I WANT TO GIVE
ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO CENTRAL STAFF,
YOU KNOW, THE CLERKS , TO SDCI,
SDOT, SOUND TRANSIT, AND
EVERYONE WHO HELPED US PREPARE
FOR TODAY'S MEETING. WE WILL
NOW OPEN THE HYBRID PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD. PUBLIC COMMENT
SHOULD RELATE TO ITEMS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA, AND WITHIN THE
PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE.
CLERK, HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE
HAVE SIGNED UP FOR TODAY?
>> WE HAVE SIX IN PERSON AND
FIVE REMOTE .
>> OKAY. LET'S GIVE EVERYONE
TWO MINUTES. WE WILL START WITH
THE IN PERSON SPEAKERS FIRST.
BEFORE WE READ THE PUBLIC
COMMENTS, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO
MAKE SURE EVERYONE WHO TOOK TIME
OUT OF THEIR DAY TO COME DOWN
HERE AND SHARE PUBLIC COMMENT
HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
PLEASE RESPECT EACH OTHER ,
RESPECT EACH OTHER'S TIME AS WE
GO FORWARD. THANK YOU.
>> -- CLERK, PLEASE READ THE
INSTRUCTIONS.
>> THE COMMENT PERIOD MODERATED
IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. THE
PUBLIC HIM APPEARED IS 20
MINUTES. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED
IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY
REGISTERED. IN PERSON WILL BE
CALLED FIRST BUT AFTER WHICH, WE
MOVE TO REMOTE SPEAKERS UNTIL
THEY COME OUT. HAS ENDED.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A TIME WHEN
10 SECONDS OR LESS. MICROPHONES
WILL BE MUTED IF THEY DO NOT AND
COMMENTS IN THE ALLOTTED TIME.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW
OPEN. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE
FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
>> AND YOU CAN CALL THE NEXT FEW
SPEAKER SO THEY CAN GET LINED
UP.
>> LEONARD, SARAH, ALEX
ZIMMERMAN , AND . MY APOLOGIES.
>> OKAY. PLEASE BEGIN.
>> IS THIS ON? HELLO? I WOULD
LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR
SPEEDING UP LIGHT RAIL
PERMITTING. I AM HERE TO SPEAK
AGAINST COUNSEL MAREN THAT
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA'S MMA. ARE
CITIZENS ASK WHY IT TAKES 30
YEARS TO BUILD A TRAIN FROM
DOWNTOWN TO BALLARD. WHY CAN'T
LEADERS DELIVER FOR
CONSTITUENTS? WHY CAN'T CITY
GOVERNMENTS DO ANYTHING? THIS IS
A PRIME EXAMPLE. THE ENDLESS
STREAM OF NEEDLESS VIRTUAL
SIGNALING THROUGH BUREAUCRACY
THAT DROWNS IN RED TAPE.
COUNCILMEMBER, WE HAVE ALREADY
BEEN CONSULTED IN THE PEOPLE
VOTED FOR THIS PROJECT. IS NOT
YOUR DUTY AS A DEMOCRATICALLY
ELECTED LEADER TO CARRY OUT THE
WILL OF THE PEOPLE, OR AT THE
VERY LEAST, STEP OUT OF THE WAY.
I WILL STATE A FACT MANY WON'T
WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
THERE'S GOING TO BE
CONSTRUCTION. NO AMOUNT OF
PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD CHANGE
THAT. WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS IS
ANOTHER TOOL FOR RICH
WELL-CONNECTED TO MAKE SURE THIS
PROJECT TAKES TOO LONG OR RUNS
OVER BUDGET OR IT STOPPED
ALTOGETHER. IT IS TIME FOR THE
REST OF THIS COUNCIL TO LEAD AND
DEFER EXPERTS. STRIKE THIS
AMENDMENT AND BUILD THE TRAINS.
THANK YOU.
>> NEXT, SERA.
>> -- SERA .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO SPEAK
AGAINST COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA'S
PROPOSAL THAT WILL SLOW DOWN
LIGHT RAIL DEVELOPING, INCREASE
COSTS AND ERODE PUBLIC TRUST IN
THE ABILITY BY THE CITY TO GET
THINGS THAT. WHEN I TAKE THE
LIGHT RAIL AT RUSH HOUR, I
CAN'T MOVE AN INCH IN ANY
DIRECTION. SATELLITES USE THE
LIGHT RAIL AND RELY ON IT TO GET
TO WORK, SCHOOL, APPOINTMENTS.
IF WE DELAY PROCESS TO HEAR OUT
A FEW ANGRY INDIVIDUALS, I'M
SURE NOT EVEN A MILE WOULD BE
BUILT TODAY. IT IS A RUNNING
JOKE AMONG SEATTLE MILLENIALS
AND SUNDAY ARE GREAT , GREAT,
GREAT GRANDKIDS MIGHT BE ABLE TO
RIDE THE LINK TO BALLARD. THE
REST OF THE BILL CHANGES THAT
NARRATIVE AND CUTS REDTAPE
THANKS THE LEADERSHIP OF THE
REST OF THE COUNCIL PLEASE DO
NOT INCLUDE THE AMENDMENT. WE
DON'T NEED SURVEY AFTER SURVEY.
WE JUST NEED TO BUILD. THANK
YOU.
>> NEXT UP, ALEX ZIMMERMAN.
>> MY DIRTY GESTAPO FASCIST ,
PIG . I AM TRUMP SUPPORTER. I
SPEAK 5000 TIMES IN COUNCIL
CHAMBER. I HAVE 6000 DAYS OF
TRESPASS. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT
AGENDA NUMBER TWO ABOUT CRIME
ENVIRONMENT. I AM TOTALLY
CONFUSED. WHEN I GO TO PARKS,
FOR EXAMPLE, NICE ENVIRONMENT,
YOU KNOW, AND EVERY TREE. WHY
HUMAN CANNOT DO THIS? DOGS HAVE
MORE POWERS AND WE HAVE. IT DOES
NOT SURPRISE ME. IT MAKES PEOPLE
ANGRY. PEOPLE WILL BE ANGRY .
CRIME WILL GO UP. IT'S VERY
SIMPLE. I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU
HOW WE CAN CHANGE THIS. FIRST,
WHAT WE NEED IS OPEN BETTER
ROOM. COUNCIL RINCK DOING THIS
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE CHOICE.
TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE. ONE DAY
PER WEEK . EVERYBODY CAN GO AND
SPEAK. GUYS, YOU CONTROL THE
700,000 . COCKROACHES. CONTROL
HER. I SEE THIS HERE. FOR 30
YEARS, FOR 20 YEARS, AND FOR THE
LAST 10 YEARS IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
PEER FASCISM DEEPER AND DEEPER.
IT IS NOT SURPRISING. NOW,
NUMBER ONE FASCIST COUNTY IN
AMERICA. LAST WEEK, STATISTICS,
FROM NUMBER ONE FOLLOWING TWO
NUMBER 10. IT COLLAPSE. THE
SYSTEM FALL DOWN MEANS COLLAPSE.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TALKING
TO THIS IDIOT. VIVA
>> REPORTER:. VIVA NEW AMERICAN
REVOLUTION. WHEN PEOPLE IN
SEATTLE DON'T STAND UP OR
CHANGE THIS CHAMBER TOTALLY,
NOTHING WILL BE CHANGED.
>> NEXT UP .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I AM HERE TO COMMENT ON
COUNCIL BILL 120975 ,
SPECIFICALLY ON THE CONTENTS OF
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA'S AMENDMENT
AS PRESENTED LAST WEEK. I'M A
RESIDENT IN DISTRICT 4. I WATCH
THE ENTIRE MEETING LAST WEEK,
AND I WAS PRETTY DISAPPOINTED
WITH THE CHARACTERIZATION THAT
YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, HAD
THAT THIS AMENDMENT WAS NOT A
BIG LIFT. I HAVE BEEN OBSERVING
THE PROCESS OF LIGHT RAIL
PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION,
HAVING GROWN AND LIVED IN
SEATTLE A MAJORITY OF MY LIFE. I
SEE THE RESULT OF THIS SEATTLE
PROCESS AS PLAYED OUT IN THE
CITIES OF BELLEVUE AND MERCER
ISLAND TO CURTAIL TRANSIT
ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. SOUND
TRANSIT HAS GOTTEN VERY GOOD AT
COLLECTING PUBLIC COMMENT AND
INCORPORATING IT INTO THEIR
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
THE GOAL OF THE COUNCIL BILL IS
TO STREAMLINE PERMITTING AND TO
ALLOW FOR FASTER CONSTRUCTION.
YOUR AMENDMENT, BY DEFINITION,
SLOWS DOWN PERMITTING AND
CONSTRUCTION AND ADDS REDUNDANT
WORK TO CITY DEPARTMENTS. IT
SHOULDN'T MATTER IF PUBLIC,
COMES BY WAY OF REGIONAL
PARTNERS OR CITY DEPARTMENTS.
THE FACT THAT YOU DID NOT CHECK
WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS BEFORE
PROPOSING YOUR AMENDMENTS IS
POOR GOVERNANCE. THE FACT THAT
YOU DID NOT CITE CLEAR EXAMPLES
THAT PROMPTED THIS AMENDMENT IS
POOR GOVERNANCE. THE FACT THAT
YOU INTRODUCED THIS AMENDMENT
WITH NO PUBLIC POSTING OF THE
AMENDMENT UNTIL SEVERAL DAYS
AFTER THE MEETING IS A SIGN OF
POOR GOVERNANCE. THE AMENDMENT,
AS WRITTEN, APPEARS TO MY
DIRECTLY AS AN ANTI-PATTERN TO
WHITE MASS TRANSIT TAKES SO LONG
TO BUILD IN THE UNITED STATES,
EVEN INCLUDING REPORTS OFFERED
BY THE FEDERAL TRANSIT
ADMINISTRATION. THEREFORE, I
URGE YOU, COUNCILMEMBER, TO
WITHDRAW YOUR AMENDMENT TO
PREVENT FURTHER DELAY OF THIS
BILL OUT OF COMMITTEE. IF THIS
CONTENT IS IMPORTANT TO ADD,
THEN THE COMMITTEE CAN TAKE IT
UP AT A LATER TIME AS A SEPARATE
BILL WHERE IT DOESN'T
JEOPARDIZE THE PASSAGE -- [
INAUDIBLE ]
>> NEXT.
>> SURE SOLOMON, MEMBERS OF THE
COUNCIL, I AM THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION
CHOICES COALITION. WE ARE THE
WATCHED ESTATE NONPROFIT TRANSIT
ADVOCATE. WE WERE PROUD TO LEAD
THE SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN IN 2016
THAT EXPANDED LIGHT RAIL ACROSS
THE REGION. ONE OF THE ONLY
THINGS WERE POPULAR THE LIGHT
RAIL EXTENSION IN SEATTLE IS
GETTING IT DONE SOONER. WE KNOW
THAT EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL
WANTS TO SEE THAT TOO. AS
CURRENTLY WRITTEN, WE HAVE
CONCERNS WITH AMENDMENT ONE FOR
COUNCIL BILL 120975 REQUIRING A
COMMUNITY OUTREACH PLAN BEFORE
PERMIT SUBMISSION COULD
INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL STATES THAT
STEPS. WE NEED TO GET LIGHT RAIL
RIGHT . EVERY DAY WE DELAY MEANS
ANOTHER GROUNDING BUS COMMUTE
AND TRAFFIC FOR PEOPLE ON THE
ROUTE 40, ROUTE 62 OR. WE KNOW
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEIR
STAFF, SOUND TRANSIT AND CITY
STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD
BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE SURE
THIS CODE CHANGE IN AMENDMENT
DOESN'T DELAY RIGHT -- LIGHT
RAIL. WE ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE
PROGRESS AND EAGER TO SEE THIS
AMENDMENT COME TO A RESOLUTION
THAT HELPS US BUILD LIGHT RAIL
QUICKLY. THINK YOU FOR YOUR WORK
ON IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> NEXT, WE HAVE STEVE.
>> LOW FEES. THESE ARE SYMPTOMS
OF THE BIG PROBLEM . THE BIG
PROBLEM IS THE CITY , THIS
COMMITTEE, AND EVEN THE STATE ,
AND MANY STATES AND
MUNICIPALITIES, EXCEPT -- ACCEPT
THE BUILD LIVE. THE BIG LIE IS
THAT WE CAN BUILD OUR WAY ALONE
OUT OF HOMELESSNESS . WELL, WE
HAVE MORE UNITS THAN WE HAVE
HOMELESS PEOPLE . OUR PROBLEM IS
THAT WE DON'T MATCH UP WELL
WITH INCOMES . WE ALSO HAVEN'T
DONE VERY WELL IN THIS STATE ON
MENTAL HEALTH AND A FEW OTHER
ISSUES . I AM SO OLD THAT I
REMEMBER WHEN WASHINGTON STATE
WAS A MODEL MENTAL HEALTH STATE.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN THAT FOR A
VERY, VERY LONG TIME. SO LET US
TAKE A LOOK AT THE REAL PROBLEM
, AND THAT PROBLEM IS ACCEPTANCE
OF THE IDEA THAT WE COULD MAKE
WEALTHY DEVELOPERS EVEN
WEALTHIER , AND OUR PROBLEMS
WILL GO AWAY. THEY HAVE ONLY
GOTTEN WORSE . I THINK IT IS
TIME WE START TO TAKE A LOOK AT
OTHER MEANS , AND SOME OF IT IS
A MENTAL HEALTH, SOME OF IT IS
NOT OVER ZONING. OVER ZONING
TAKES, MAYBE, AN EIGHT OR 12
UNIT APARTMENT HOUSE, AND YOU
RAISE THE TAXES, MAKES IT
UNAFFORDABLE, AND THEN YOU HAVE
TO BUY -- YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NEW
ONE THERE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE
FAR MORE EXPENSIVE. THAT IS WHY
WE ARE SEEING FEWER LOWER
MIDDLE-CLASS AND WORKING-CLASS
PEOPLE ABLE TO STAY IN THE CITY
. I HEARD A LITTLE PREACHING
HERE ABOUT SOUND TRANSIT. THEY
DO SO MUCH THINGS SO BEAUTIFUL.
THEY COLLECT THE FARES. THEY
KNOW WHAT THE SAFE LEVEL OF
FENTANYL IS. THEIR DRIVERS ARE
AMAZED AT THAT. SOME OF THEIR
PASSENGERS ARE TOO. BECAUSE I
DON'T THINK THE HEALTH PEOPLE
HAVE FIGURED [ INAUDIBLE ] --
>> NEXT UP . AFTER MARK WE MOVED
TO REMOTE.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN
WORKING WITH A NUMBER OF FOLKS
IN THE SOTO AREA OVER A LONG
PERIOD OF TIME. I WANT TO TALK
IN FAVOR OF STREAMLINING THE
PROCESS THAT YOU ARE IN THE
THROES OF DOING. ALSO, I WANT TO
SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT
THAT COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA HAS .
WE ARE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS
PROCESS IS ALL ABOUT . AT TIMES,
THERE REALLY ISN'T A FEELING
THAT WE, AS PEOPLE IN THE LINE
OF RAIL , ARE BEING LISTENED TO.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THE
CITY DOES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
BE AWARE OF WHAT THAT EAT OUT --
OUTREACH IS AND WHAT THE RESULT
OF THE OUTREACH ARE. AND SO, ALL
I CAN SAY IS THAT THERE ARE
PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DO FEEL
LIKE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE
HEARD, AND HEARD A LITTLE BIT
MORE BY THE CITY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>> WE WILL NOW MOVE TO REMOTE
CALLERS. FIRST STEP -- UP.
>> I AM HERE TO ADDRESS
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA'S
AMENDMENT PROPOSING ADDITIONAL
COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR THE SOUND
TRANSIT PERMITTING SUPPORTED BY
LAME DUCK COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
THE AMENDMENT WAS ORIGINALLY
PRESENTED AS A FAMILY AND SMALL
ADDITION TO THE LIGHT RAIL
PERMITTING CODES. IT PROMISES TO
HAVE LITTLE, OR NO DELAYS, TO
THE PROJECT TIMELINE . SOUNDS
PERFECT, RIGHT? ALTHOUGH ON THE
SURFACE IT SOUNDS PEACHY,
ESPECIALLY AFTER THE PHRASES
LIKE THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO
BE ENGAGED, IT IS EASY TO
MISTAKE THIS FOR WHAT IT REALLY
IS, ANOTHER VEILED ATTACK
AGAINST THE SOUND TRANSIT
EXPANSION. INCREDIBLY, THESE TWO
COUNCILMEMBER IS INTRODUCED AND
TRY TO PUSH THROUGH THEIR
OUTREACH AMENDMENT ON WHAT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE THE LAST DAY TO
FINALIZE A VOTE ON THE LAND USE
CODE. OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE
BLINDSIDED AND HAD TO READ ALL
THE CHANGES ON THE SPOT WHILE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEY CLAIM TO
TRY TO ENGAGE WITH HAD
ABSOLUTELY NO OPPORTUNITY TO
READ OR COMMENT. WORSE YET,
RIVERA AND MOORE HAVE A HISTORY
OF USING DISINGENUOUS COMMITTEE
OUTREACH PROGRAMS TO TRY TO STOP
OTHER CRITICAL PROJECTS THAT
WILL HELP SHAPE SEATTLE PREFER
SIMPLE, EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN
DISCUSSING THE ONE SEATTLE
HOUSING INITIATIVE IN THE OFFICE
OF PLANNING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT, THEY TRIED TO
JUSTIFY STARK OPPOSITION TO
COMMUNITIES BY A BROADER AND
MORE ELABORATE PROCESS OF
COMMUNITY OUTREACH WERE
NECESSARY BEFORE JUMPING TO ANY
CONCLUSIONS ONE SEATTLE WAS
PROPOSING. IRONICALLY, WHEN
COMMUNITY OUTREACH WAS ACTUALLY
DONE BY ONE SEATTLE, THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF
RESPONDENTS WANTED
DENSIFICATION. NEARLY 70%
DEMENTED ADDING APARTMENTS OR
CONDOS. THIS IS JUST THE FIRST
OF MANY EXAMPLES OF RIVERA AND
MOORE TRYING TO WEAPONIZED
BUREAUCRACY. THEY HAVE LITTLE
INTEREST IN THE CONCERN OF THE
ACTUAL PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES.
OF THAT, THEY'RE FIGHTING TO
DELAY AND DETER AN
OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED PROJECT
MORE THAN 70% OF THE CITY VOTED
FOR. PLEASE DON'T LET RIVERA
AND MOORE DELAY THE LIGHT RAIL
WE ALL WANT FOR EVEN A DAY
LONGER. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT UP .
>> HELLO. CAN YOU WILL HEAR ME?
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU. CHAIR SOLOMON AND
OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, GREAT TO
BE HERE. I AM A PRIVATE CITIZEN
WHO ACTUALLY HAS SERVED ON SOUND
TRANSIT STAKEHOLDER ADVISORY
GROUP, AND ST3 ADVISORY GROUP I
LIVE IN WEST SEATTLE AND HAVE
BEEN ACTIVE IN LEARNING AND
WORKING ON SOUND TRANSIT 3 WELL
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. I URGE YOU
TO SUPPORT AMENDMENT ONE FOR
COUNCIL BILL 120975. I
PERSONALLY , IN THE TIMES I
SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE, HAVE
WITNESSED SOUND TRANSIT AGREEING
TO A NEW ALIGNMENT HERE IN WEST
SEATTLE AFTER THE PUBLIC
OUTREACH CONCLUDED. I CAN
TESTIFY THAT SOUND TRANSIT'S
OUTREACH HAS BEEN MISERABLE AND
SPOTTY. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW
MANY TIMES I CALLED SOUND
TRANSIT TO SAY, YOU HAVE GOT TO
GET PEOPLE OUT HERE TO TELL WHAT
SEATTLE WHAT IS GOING ON. I
BELIEVE IN PUBLIC OUTREACH. I
BELIEVE IN SOUND TRANSIT. AND I
BELIEVE IN SUPPORTING AMENDMENT
ONE. I HOPE YOU DO TOO. I HAVE
EXPERIENCE , AND I AM NOT
SPEAKING AS SOMEBODY WHO IS PAID
TO SPEAK. THANK YOU .
>> NEXT UP .
>> HELLO. I AM COMMENTING ON
COUNCIL BILL 120975 . PLEASE
REJECT AMENDMENT ONE AND REJECT
ADDING REDTAPE TO EXPANDING OUR
LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM. THE RESIDENTS
OF SEATTLE WANT THE LIGHT RAIL.
WE VOTED ON IT. WE ARE PAYING
FOR IT. STOP DELAYING SYSTEM
EXPANSION. THIS AMENDMENT ADDS
ADDITIONAL COSTS AN ADDITIONAL
TIME FOR SOUND TRANSIT TO BRING
LIGHTLY RAIL TO OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS AMENDMENT IS
THE EPITOME OF THE SEATTLE
PROCESS . THE SEATTLE PROCESS
SUCKS. BUILD THE TRAIN. REJECT
AMENDMENT ONE. THANK YOU .
>> NEXT UP .
>>
EVER SEEN WHEN A LAWYER CHEATS
THE SYSTEM AND WE PLACED THE LAW
AS THEY READ THE CRITERIA OF THE
JUDGE WILL READ DURING A COURT
CASE? ALSO, THAT THEY CAN CREATE
EVIDENCE THAT GUARANTEES THEY
CAN GET A SLAMDUNK? IT IS KIND
OF LIKE THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST
IN THE IMPAIRED JUDGMENT OF
MARISSA RIVERA AND THE OTHER
LANDLORDS ON THE LAND USE
COMMITTEE THAT NEED TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A
CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THEIR
CONFLICT OF INTEREST GETTING IN
THE WAY OF THE 21st CENTURY
FIRST WORLD REDEVELOPMENT.
WHAT'S UPSETTING IS COUNCIL IS
TRYING TO FORCE A $7 BILLION
TRAIN TO GO FROM WEST SEATTLE
THAT IS NOWHERE NEED -- NEAR THE
BEACH TO GO THREE MEASLY STOPS
TO DOWNTOWN SEATTLE ON A
DIFFERENT TUNNEL . IT IS BAD
POLICY, ESPECIALLY WITH SOUND
TRANSIT HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO
OPEN UP ST2, BUT ALL THESE
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR ST3
FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. THERE
ARE EXPERTS AT WORKING THE PAID
PLAN. BUT COUNCIL WANTS TO,
LIKE, CONTINUE TO DELAY PROGRESS
AND MANIPULATE THE BELIEF THAT
ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN IS A CRIME
PREVENTION WHEN WE HAVE SEEN
FAILURE AFTER FAILURE BETWEEN
PIKE AND PINE STREET ON THIRD
AVENUE WHERE THEY BROKE UP ONE
BUS STOP TO MAKE THREE FROM $1
MILLION AS IF THAT WILL QUELL
THE CRIME. IT IS PRINTED OUT AND
DISPERSED IT FURTHER. QUITE
FRANKLY, CHAIR WHO HAS NEVER
BEEN ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, ARE
YOU REALLY A SEATTLE POLICE
OFFICER OF 35 YEARS, OR ARE YOU
A CRIME PREVENTION EXPERT THAT
COPYCATS OTHER BAD POLICIES FOR
DIFFERENT CITIES THAT SEEM TO
RUN INTERFERENCE FOR BLACK DRUG
PUSHERS AND THE CRIMINAL ADULTS
WHO UNDERMINE THE YOUTH THAT YOU
HID BEHIND FOR 35 YEARS? YOU ALL
SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THERE IS A
CONFLICT OF INTEREST EVERY TIME
THERE IS A LAND USE COMMITTEE
AND COMPREHENSIVE --
>> NEXT UP.
>> HELLO . CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES .
>> THANK YOU. I AM A LONG TIME
SEATTLE RESIDENT . I SUPPORT THE
EFFORT TO STREAMLINE PERMITTING
AND AM VERY CONCERNED BY
AMENDMENT ONE AND ASK YOU TO
REJECT IT. FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT
GOING TO GET ALL OF SOUND
TRANSIT 3. IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE.
ONE LARGE REASON FOR THIS IS
BECAUSE WE ADD MANY HURDLES TO
THE PROCESS. I FEEL THAT
AMENDMENT ONE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE
OF THAT HURDLE . WHEN WE ARE
DEALING WITH FINANCING BILLIONS
OR TENS OF BILLIONS OR HUNDREDS
OF BILLIONS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS,
THAT TIME IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF
MONEY . I WOULD ASK YOU TO
PLEASE REJECT THIS AMENDMENT .
THERE IS ALREADY SIGNIFICANT
OUTREACH. THERE IS ALSO A BIT OF
. THE COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE OF
SEATTLE, WHICH ARE NOT GOING TO
GET THERE TRANSIT PROJECTS
BECAUSE WE SPEND TOO LONG
BICKERING, HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR
TRAINS AS WELL. I WANT AN
INTERCONNECTED PUGET SOUND
REGION. PLEASE REJECT AMENDMENT
ONE. LET'S GET THESE TRAINS
BUILT . SEATTLE AND THE
SURROUNDING AREAS DESERVE IT.
THANK YOU .
>> NEXT UP .
>>
-- CAMERON?
>> HELLO. SORRY. [ INAUDIBLE ] I
JUST CALLED IN. THERE MAY NEED
TO BE A BIT OF INFORMATION THAT
THE WEBINAR MAYBE DOESN'T WORK.
ANYWAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CAMERON, I
AM ALSO HERE TO VOTE NO ON
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA'S
AMENDMENT. ASKING FOR A VERY
SIMPLE REASON, VOTERS APPROVE
THESE PROJECTS NEARLY A DECADE
AGO. I SAY THIS BUT TO EMPHASIZE
THAT WE NEED TO GET SHOVELS ON
THE GROUND AS IT IS POSSIBLE,
BUT ALSO TO INVITE YOU TO ASK
WHAT SOUND TRANSIT HAS BEEN UP
TO SINCE THEN. THE ANSWERS THAT
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING DESIGNS AND
STUDIES, AND ALONG THE WAY, THEY
HAVE BEEN DOING OUTREACH. THEY
HAVE WORKSHOPS. I KNOW BECAUSE I
HAVE BEEN TO SOME. HAVE
CONDUCTED SURVEYS. I KNOW
BECAUSE I HAVE TAKEN SUPPER ALL
THIS TO SAY THE SHOWING OF WORK
THAT COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA'S
AMENDMENT AIMS TO REQUIRE HAS
BEEN DONE ALREADY. IT IS BEEN
DONE RATHER THAN POTENTIALLY
REQUIRING COURT ORDERS AND
COSTLY DELAYS IN RETURNING TO
THE DRAWING BOARD ON SHOVEL
READY PLANS. SOME OF US WOULD
ARGUE IT HAS BEEN OVERDONE. WE
WOULD SUBMIT AS EXHIBIT A IN
THAT ARGUMENT THE FACT THAT
SOUND TRANSIT HAS BEEN AT THIS
FOR NEARLY A DECADE AND SHOVELS
ARE STILL NOT IN THE GROUND. AND
LEFT PROCESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR
DELAY MOTIVATED MINORITY OF THE
PUBLIC ARE WHY THIS REGION AND
COUNTRY HAVE SO MUCH TROUBLE
BUILDING MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA 'S
AMENDMENT WOULD DOUBLE DOWN ON
THE CULTURE RATHER THAN FOCUSING
ON DELIVERING THIS NECESSARY AND
TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT WITH
THE URGENCY IT DEMANDS. NEW RISK
OF COSTLY PROJECT DELAYS IN THE
BILL PLEASANTLY DESIGNED TO
REMOVE THEM AND EXTRAORDINARY
REQUIREMENTS NOT SEEN ELSEWHERE
IN THE PERMITTING CODE. FOR
THOSE REASONS, I'M ASKING YOU
VOTE NO. THANK YOU .
>> WE HAVE ONE LAST IN PERSON
COMMENTOR.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I JUST WANT TO ADD A
COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS
REGARDING COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA'S AMENDMENT REGARDING
SOUND TRANSIT . I AM DEEPLY
INVESTED IN THE HEALTH OF SOUND
TRANSIT RAIL SO I CAN MORE
EASILY VISIT AND TRAVEL AROUND
SEATTLE, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE
STRESSFUL TRAFFIC AND DON'T
LIKE PAYING FOR REALLY EXPENSIVE
PARKING , BUT I LOVE VISITING
SEATTLE, AND I LOVE THIS CITY. I
UNDERSTAND RIVERA'S VIEW , BUT
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE DO
NOT NEED PUBLIC OUTREACH BECAUSE
WE HAVE ALREADY GONE THE PUBLIC
OUTREACH. VOTERS ALREADY
APPROVED LIGHT RAIL MULTIPLE
TIMES. ALSO, SOUND TRANSIT BOARD
IS ELECTED, AND IF ANY
INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS DO NOT LIKE
THINGS THAT THE BOARD IS DOING,
THEY COULD GO THROUGH THE NORMAL
DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND VOTE FOR
SOMEONE ELSE . IN YAKIMA WE DO
NOT NEED ANY MORE COMMUNITY
OUTREACH. IT WILL ONLY ADD MORE
RED TAPE. SOUND TRANSIT HAS
ALREADY STRUGGLED WITH THIS FOR
YEARS. WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE
OF IT. IT IS ALMOST LIKE AN OPEN
JOKE ABOUT HOW LONG TRANSIT
PROJECTS TAKE TO GET
CONSTRUCTED. YEAH, WE DO NOT
NEED MORE OF IT FOR LITERALLY NO
REASON. YEAH. THAT PRETTY MUCH
SUMS IT UP. THANK YOU .
>> THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL
REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
EVERYONE, FOR YOUR COMMENTARY.
IT IS APPRECIATED. AND IT IS
HEARD. AS THERE ARE NO
ADDITIONAL REGISTERED SPEAKERS,
WE WILL NOW PROCEED TO THE ITEMS
OF BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE READ ITEM 1 INTO THE
RECORD?
>> COUNCIL BILL 120975, AN
ORDINANCE RELATING TO LAND USE
AND ZONING; ADDRESSING SIGNAGE;
CLARIFYING REQUIREMENTS AND
SUPPORTING EFFICIENT PERMITTING
PROCESSES FOR LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT
FACILITIES .
>> THANK YOU. AS A REMINDER,
THIS LEGISLATION UPDATES THE
CITY CODES TO SUPPORT EFFICIENT
PERMITTING PROCESSES FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OF LIGHT RAIL
TRANSIT FACILITIES AND WOULD
HELP FULFILL THE PERMIT PROCESS
IMPROVEMENT GOALS IDENTIFIED BY
THE CITY, AND BY SOUND TRANSIT ,
IN 2019. BYPASSING THIS
ORDINANCE, THE AMENDED CODE
WOULD SUPPORT TIMELY
CONSTRUCTION OF THE WEST SEATTLE
LEG EXTENSION IN THE BALLARD
LINK EXTENSION PROJECTS.
REPRESENTATIVES FROM SDOT, SDCI
AND COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF ARE
AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU , STAFF, FOR JOINING
US. AS YOU HAVE ALREADY JOINED
US AT THE TABLE, PLEASE, FOR THE
RECORD, INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.
>> COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF.
>> OFFICE OF THE WATERFRONT
CIVIC PROJECTS AND SOUND
TRANSIT.
>> SDCI.
>> OKAY, GREAT. WE HAVE HAD
THREE PRESENTATIONS FROM YOU
ALL. WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF
INFORMATION FROM YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR THAT. WITH THAT,
DO ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FOR THE STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT?
OKAY.
>> CAN WE MOVE THE BILL AND DO
THE AMENDMENT AND THEN DO THE
QUESTIONS?
>> YES. I NOW MOVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BILL 120975 . IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED . ARE THERE ANY
COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA .
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I MOVED TO
AMEND COUNCIL BILL 120975 WITH
AMENDMENT ONE VERSION 3.
>> SECOND .
>> MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND
THE BILL AS PRESENTED. AMENDMENT
ONE, VERSION 3. COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED TO
SPEAK ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
>> CHAIR, THEN WE HAVE CENTRAL
STAFF EXPLAIN THE AMENDMENT ?
AND THEN, I AM HAPPY TO SPEAK TO
IT .
>> CERTAINLY.
>> AMENDMENT ONE, VERSION 3 IS A
SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT VERSION OF
THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS DISCUSSED
LAST WEEK. THIS WOULD REQUIRE
THAT SOUND TRANSIT SUBMIT A
COMMUNITY OUTREACH REPORT THAT
SUMMARIZES PUBLIC OUTREACH , AND
ALSO ALSO RISES THE DIRECTOR OF
SEATTLE FROM -- DEPARTMENT OF
CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS TO
REQUIRE ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AS A
DISCRETIONARY DECISION. A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE MOMENT
THE COUNCIL CONSIDERED LAST
WEEK. THAT HAD A PRE-APPLICATION
COMPONENT, AS WELL AS A REVIEW
COMPONENT AFTER APPLICATION.
THIS IS JUST AN APPLICATION THAT
WOULD APPLY AT THE TIME OF
PERMIT APPLICATION FOR LIGHT
RAIL TRANSIT FACILITIES. FOR THE
PUBLIC, THERE ARE A CAPUT --
COUPLE OF POTENTIAL MEMBERS TO
THE AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE
TALKED ABOUT HERE .
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU
FOR REVIEWING THAT. I WANT TO
SAY THAT LAST WEEK, CHAIR, FIRST
OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US
A FEW MORE DAYS TO GO THROUGH
THIS AMENDMENT. IT HAS BEEN MY
POSITION, AND CONTINUES TO BE,
THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
SOUND TRANSIT TO SHOW THEIR WORK
TO THE CITY AND SHOW US THE
PUBLIC OUTREACH THEY WERE DOING.
WAS NEVER INTENDED TO CAUSE ANY
DELAYS OR COSTS. I WANT TO THANK
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE SOUND
TRANSIT 3 TEAM AND SDCI FOR
WORKING WITH ME SINCE FRIDAY TO
TRY TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE TO
GET TO THE INTENT , TO MY
INTENT, AND LANGUAGE THEY FELT
COMFORTABLE WITH. AND SO, THE
LANGUAGE THAT YOU SEE , THE
LANGUAGE THAT FOLKS HAD MOST
CONCERNED ABOUT, OR THAT SEEMED
THAT WOULD BE, PERHAPS, WERE
THINKING IT MIGHT ADD DELAY , IS
THE LANGUAGE THAT THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, WITH THE DEPARTMENTS
PROFFERED, AND THAT YOU SEE A
SECTION HERE. AGAIN, I WANT TO
THANK THEM FOR HELPING THE
LANGUAGE TO GET TO THE INTENT,
WHICH IS TO REALLY MAKE SURE
THAT, AS SOUND TRANSIT IS
APPLYING FOR THESE PERMITS, THAT
THEY ARE SHOWING THEIR WORK.
THEY ARE ALREADY DOING, AS I
SAID LAST WEEK, THEY ARE ALREADY
DOING OUTREACH. THEY HAVE
ALREADY DOCUMENTED THE OUTREACH.
THE ONLY THING IS THEY ARE NOT
REQUIRED TO SHARE THE OUTREACH
WITH THE DEPARTMENT, AND THIS
REALLY WOULD BE REQUIRING THEM
TO SHARE THEIR WORK AND SHARE
THEIR OUTREACH RESULTS WITH THE
DEPARTMENT. THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE
HERE BEFORE YOU. I DON'T KNOW
IF THE TEAM WANTS TO ADD
ANYTHING ELSE. THAT IS PRETTY
MUCH IT. WE WORKED TOGETHER TO
COME UP WITH LANGUAGE TO SHOW
THAT SO THAT WE WERE INSURED THE
CITY WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION
WITHOUT CREATING ANY ADDITIONAL
BURDEN OR DELAY OR COST .
ESPECIALLY SINCE I HAVE SAID,
AND CONTINUE TO SAY, I AM VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF LIGHT RAIL. I RIDE
LIGHT RAIL. I AM REALLY LUCKY TO
HAVE A STATION NEAR WHERE I
LIVE. I AM SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T
HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE UNTIL I
WAS 30. I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF
PUBLIC TRANSIT IN GENERAL. THANK
YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY
COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT ONE?
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WOULD
JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY. WE'VE
HEARD A LOT OF TALKING POINTS
THAT I THINK WERE ACTUALLY
DIRECTED TO THE AMENDMENT THAT
CAME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE
BEFORE. IF WE COULD JUST, I
KNOW, KETIL, YOU WENT THROUGH
THIS, BUT IF YOU COULD MAYBE
HIGHLIGHT HOW THIS AMENDMENT IS
QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT
FROM WHAT WAS PROPOSED BY
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA , SUCH AS,
AND NO LONGER REQUIRES PRIOR
APPROVAL APPLICATION.
>> THERE WERE THREE COMPONENTS
TO THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS
DISCUSSED LAST WEEK. ONE WAS
PRE-APPLICATION OUTREACH
REQUIREMENTS. SO SOUND TRANSIT
WOULD HAVE HAD TO SUBMIT A
COMMUNITY OUTREACH PLAN THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND
APPROVED BY SDCI PRIOR TO PERMIT
APPLICATION. IT IS AN ANALOGOUS
SITUATION. AND THEN, THE
OUTREACH PLAN WOULD BE THE
OUTCOME OF THAT WOULD BE A
COMPONENT OF THE PERMIT
APPLICATION TO THE CITY. SO ONCE
THE INITIAL OUTREACH IS DONE,
CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN, THEY
WOULD INCLUDE INFORMATION FROM
THAT OUTREACH IN THE APPLICATION
ITSELF. AND THEN, FINALLY, THE
SDCI DIRECTOR WOULD HAVE BEEN
REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY IN THE
PERMIT DECISION HOW THE DECISION
RESPONDED TO THAT PUBLIC
COMMENT, IF THE PUBLIC COMMENT
WAS APPLICABLE TO THE
DECISION-MAKING BY THE SDCI
DIRECTOR. THOSE COMPONENTS ARE
NO LONGER PART OF THE AMENDMENT.
THE AMENDMENT WOULD JUST REQUIRE
A REPORT AT APPLICATION BY SOUND
TRANSIT ON THE OUTREACH THEY HAD
UNDERTAKEN PRIOR TO PERMIT
APPLICATION .
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT IS VERY
HELPFUL. DO YOU HAVE ANY
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE
NUMBER -- AGAIN, THIS IS NO
LONGER HAVING TO DO WITH
PREAPPROVAL, BUT I AM JUST
CURIOUS ABOUT THE TOTAL NUMBER
OF PERMITS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>> I WILL ASK , MAYBE, LINDSAY
TO SPEAK TO THAT. THE OVERALL
APPLICATION OF THIS LEGISLATION
IS A SOUND TRANSIT COULD CHOOSE
TO BUNDLE PERMITS. THERE IS SOME
DISCRETION THAT SOUND TRANSIT
WOULD HAVE ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD
BUNDLE PERMITS FOR DIFFERENT
ALIGNMENTS , FOR DIFFERENT
SEGMENTS OF AN ALIGNMENT IN THE
CITY. THERE IS AN ESTIMATE FROM
SDCI ABOUT HOW MANY APPLICATIONS
THERE MAY BE FROM SOUND TRANSIT,
BUT ULTIMATELY, THERE IS
DISCUSSION BY THE APPLICANT AND
HOW THEY CHOOSE TO BUNDLE
THINGS.
>> THANK YOU FOR ASKING,
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. AT THIS
POINT, WE ANTICIPATE 59 PERMITS
FOR THE WEST SEATTLE LINK
EXTENSION. WE WILL BE MOVING
INTO THE PERMIT PACKAGING
DISCUSSIONS WITH SOUND TRANSIT.
THE PACKAGING IS LARGELY
DEPENDENT ON THE TYPE OF REVIEW
THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED . THE
SITE-SPECIFIC CONDITIONS AND THE
COMPLEXITY OF REVIEW. WE WILL BE
ANALYZING THAT AS WE START TO
PACKAGE THE PERMITS TOGETHER .
IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PERMITS IT
CAN MOVE EFFICIENTLY AS FAST AS
POSSIBLE, THAT WILL TAKE A
LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. THERE WILL
NEVER BE A SITUATION WHERE THERE
IS ONE PERMIT PER SECOND. THERE
WILL ALWAYS BE SIGNIFICANTLY
MORE PERMITS, BUT POTENTIALLY,
LESS THAN 59.
>> IS THAT SORT OF A PROCESS YOU
ARE GOING THROUGH NOW? BECAUSE
IT IS A PROCESS THAT WE WILL BE
DOING IN THE COMING WEEKS. WE
HAVE DONE IT AT A HIGH LEVEL FOR
SOME OF THE SODO LEVEL, BUT NOT
FOR THE MASTER PERMIT USE YET.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE ADDITIONAL
QUESTION. I KNOW IN THIS
LANGUAGE THAT WAS ARRIVED AT,
AND ACTUALLY, MY UNDERSTANDING
WAS IT WAS SUGGESTED BY THE
EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS IN
CONSULTATION WITH SDOT. ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN CHANGE
IS IT SAYS SHALL INCLUDE A LIST
OF STAKEHOLDERS PREVIOUSLY
TARGETED FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH.
CAN YOU MAYBE EXPLAIN WHAT THAT
MEANS? PREVIOUSLY TARGETED?
>> SURE. SOUND TRANSIT DOES
ENGAGEMENT IN ADVANCE OF
PERMITTING, AS EVERYONE HAS
DISCUSSED HERE. WE UNDERSTAND
THAT SOUND TRANSIT DOES THIS
ENGAGEMENT. THE GOAL OF
IDENTIFYING THE IMPACT THE
STAKEHOLDERS IN ADVANCE OF
PERMITTING IS TO DOCUMENT THE
ENGAGEMENT LOCATION, THE PEOPLE
THEY TARGETED FOR ENGAGEMENT,
AND THEN TO PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF
THAT TO THEN INFORM THE
PERMITTING THAT WE WOULD RENDER
A DECISION ON. THE BIG THING
HERE IS THAT, ONCE A PERMIT
COMES IN THE DOOR, WE ARE IN A
REGULATORY PROCESS AT THAT POINT
IN TIME. WE'RE DOING PUBLIC
NOTICE. WE ARE DOING,
POTENTIALLY, PUBLIC MEETINGS.
WHAT THIS DOES IS CREATES
SOMEWHAT OF A BRIGHT LINE
BETWEEN WHAT SOUND TRANSIT IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR DOCUMENTED,
WHICH IS THE ENGAGEMENT IN
ADVANCE OF PERMITTING, AND THEN
WHAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY
OF SDCI DURING THE PERMITTING
PROCESS AS A PART OF THE PUBLIC
RECORD TO SOLICIT PUBLIC
COMMENTS AND RENDER A DECISION
BASED ON THOSE COMMENTS. WHAT IS
UNIQUE ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE
WILL BE ABLE TO BE INFORMED,
BOTH BY THE COMMENTS THAT WERE
ACCEPTED BY SOUND TRANSIT IN
ADVANCE OF PERMITTING, AS WELL
AS THE COMMENTS WE GET DURING
PERMITTING, WHICH IS UNIQUE.
>> OKAY. ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO
GET -- BROADENED THE AMOUNT OF
COMMENT PROVIDED.
>> YES.
>> OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK
YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. I KNOW
THERE ARE TWO OTHER AMENDMENTS.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE WANT
TO PROCEED WITH THOSE.
>> I HAVE A PLAN.
>> I SEE COUNCILMEMBER RINCK ,
YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED.
>> THANK YOU, I MOVE TO AMEND
THE AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED ON
THE R█ECENTLY DISTRIBUTED
AMENDMENT.
>> IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT
RESENTED IN AMENDMENT 1B. YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED TO ADDRESS THIS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR SOLOMON BUT
I WILL FIRST PASS IT TO KETIL TO
PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW .
>> THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO AMEND
-- AMENDMENT LANGUAGE PROPOSED
BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA THAT
MODIFIES THAT LANGUAGE SLIGHTLY
BY STRIKING LANGUAGE THAT WOULD
GIVE TO THE SDCI DIRECTOR THE
AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL
OUTREACH AS A PART OF [
INAUDIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU, AMENDMENT ONE,
VERSION THREE FIVE. COLLEAGUES,
THIS AMENDMENT IS TO ALIGN THE
UNDERSTOOD INTENT OF THE
UNDERLYING AMENDMENT, BUT WITH
REDUCED LEGAL RISK AND BY
REMOVING THE DELAYS AND
INCREASED COSTS THE UNDERLYING
AMENDMENT COULD CREATE. GIVING
THE SDCI DIRECTOR THIS TYPE OF
DISCRETION TO DELAY PERMIT
PROCESSES IS NOT SOMETHING WE
SEE IN ANY OTHER TYPE OF
PERMITTING PROCESS . WE SHOULD
NOT APPLY AN ARBITRARY STANDARD
TO A PROJECT VOTERS APPROVED
OVERWHELMINGLY BEEN BROUGHT TO
US BY A PUBLIC AGENCY WHILE
APPLYING A LESS STRICT STANDARD
TO EVERY OTHER PERMIT IN THE
CITY, INCLUDING THOSE BY PRIVATE
DEVELOPERS. WE NEED TO BE
ALIGNED IN THIS PROCESS. AND SO,
WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE A COUPLE
OF QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR.
CAN THE SDCI DIRECTOR REQUIRE
REPEATED REPORTS?
>> UNDER THIS LANGUAGE, AND I
WANT -- IF I COULD PREFACE THIS
BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, FIRST I
WANT TO ECHO THE THANK YOU TO
THE CHAIR FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
WORK THROUGH THIS IN THE LAST
WEEK. THINK IT TO COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA FOR THE TREMENDOUS
COLLABORATION THAT HAPPENED OVER
THE LAST WEEK TO PROPOSE THIS
LANGUAGE. I WILL NOTE THAT THAT
PARTICULAR SENTENCE IS LANGUAGE
THAT WE SUGGESTED AS A WAY TO
BRIDGE THE VERY REAL INTENTION
OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR
PERMITTING PROCESS IS INFORMED
BY THE ENGAGEMENT THAT SOUND
TRANSIT HAS DONE, AS WELL AS THE
ENGAGEMENT THE CITY IS REQUIRED
TO DO AS PART OF THAT REGULATORY
PROCESS, AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE
WE ARE NOT INTRODUCING UNDUE
RISK OR DELAY OR UNCERTAINTY.
OUR READ OF THIS LANGUAGE IS
THAT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH
REPORT WOULD BE ISSUED, OR WOULD
BE INCLUDED, AS PART OF THE
PERMIT APPLICATION MATERIALS. I
WILL DEFER THAT I WILL ANSWER
THE QUESTION, BUT DEFER TO
LINDSAY, WHO IS MORE THE SUBJECT
MATTER EXPERT ON THIS THAN I AM.
THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE
ARE CREATING THAT SOUND TRANSIT
DOES THIS ENGAGEMENT ALREADY.
WILL BE A PACKAGING OF THAT
ENGAGEMENT WOULD BE INCLUDING
THAT ENGAGEMENT IN THE
APPLICATION MATERIALS. THIS
SENTENCE, AS OPPOSED TO THE
PREVIOUS ITERATION OF THE
AMENDMENT LANGUAGE FROM LAST
WEEK, JUST ALLOWS THE DISCRETION
THAT IF THERE WERE AN INSTANCE
WHERE WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT
ENGAGEMENT WAS SUFFICIENT, OR
WHERE THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN
HAVING ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT, IT
ALLOWS THE DISCUSSION FOR THE
DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR TO ASK FOR
ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT ON THE
PART OF SOUND TRANSIT I WOULD
ASK LINDSAY TO RESPOND . MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHILE THIS
LANGUAGE DOESN'T EXIST TODAY,
THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR DOES
HAVE THE DISCRETION TO ADD
ENGAGEMENT THAT THE CITY DOES AS
PART OF OUR REGULATORY PROCESS.
SO WE DO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO
DO THAT. THIS WOULD JUST MAKE
EXPLICIT THE DISCRETION TO
REQUEST SOUND TRANSIT TO DO
ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> [ INAUDIBLE ] WOULD REQUIRE
ONE REPORT TO BE SUBMITTED AT
THE TIME OF PERMITTING TO INFORM
THE PERMIT REVIEW. WHAT WOULD
THEN HAPPEN IS, AS A PART OF OUR
REVIEW IN THE PERMIT PROCESS,
AND IN REVIEWING THE REPORT AS A
PART OF OUR REVIEW, IF WE FOUND
THAT WE WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL
ENGAGEMENT FOR ONE REASON OR
ANOTHER, CONTACTED BY A
COMMUNITY MEMBER, MAYBE THAT
ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT WAS
NECESSARY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY
TO POTENTIALLY GO BACK OUT TO
COMMUNITY. I THINK WHAT IS
UNIQUE ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE
WOULD FIRST GO OUT THERE AS A
PUBLIC AGENCY, I THINK, WITH
SOUND TRANSIT , IF WE COULD. I
DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A
SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD ASK
SOUND TRANSIT TO GO OUT
INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT THE CITY
DURING THE TIME OF PERMITTING. I
THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE
COLLABORATIVELY. WE ARE IN A
PERMIT PROCESS. I THINK WHAT
THIS LINE WOULD DO A PRACTICAL
APPLICATION IS REQUIRE SOUND
TRANSIT TO COME WITH US TO AN
ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY.
>> IT SAYS MAY . SORRY, CHAIR,
MAY I ADDRESS? I HAVE A FEW MORE
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
>> IF WE COULD LET HER -- LET
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK FINISH
QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE WILL COME
BACK AND RECOGNIZE YOU .
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. FOR THE
PURPOSES OF CLARIFICATION, ARE
THERE ANY GUARDRAILS TO STOP A
DIRECTOR FROM HOLDING THESE CLR
REPORTS , OR HOLDING PROJECTS IN
A STATE OF SUSPENSE BY
REPEATEDLY REQUIRING NEW ONES?
>> WE ARE NOT REQUIRING A NEW
COR. ENGAGEMENT WOULD BE SENT TO
SOLICIT AND RECEIVE COMMENTS
REAL TIME AS A PART OF THAT
ENGAGEMENT.
>> IS THIS TYPE OF DISCRETION
GRANTED TO ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT
HEAD ON ANY OTHER PERMITTING
PROCESS? HAS THIS BEEN DONE
BEFORE?
>> NO.
>> WHAT ARE THE UNKNOWNS WHEN IT
COMES TO THIS FINAL SENTENCE IN
THE UNDERLYING BILL, OR
UNDERLYING AMENDMENT FROM A
DEPARTMENTAL POINT OF VIEW?
>> WHEN, AND HOW, WE WOULD APPLY
THAT SENTENCE.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES,
I'M GOING TO GET A LITTLE
WONKY. SOUND TRANSIT HAS TOLD MY
OFFICE DIRECTLY THAT ONCE THEY
HAVE REACHED THE 60% DESIGN
THRESHOLD, THEY WOULD SUBMIT THE
PERMIT APPLICATION, ALONG WITH
THE TRAN50. AFTER
THEY CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE
DESIGN, AND COULD EVEN GET TO
80% BY THE TIME THE DIRECTOR
COULD GIVE THEM THE NEWS THEY
NEED TO REVERT BACK TO A PRE-60%
DESIGN TO DO AN ADDITIONAL COR.
THERE IS NOTHING HOLDING THE
DIRECTOR BACK FROM ASKING FOR
COR . BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE,
PERHAPS, THAT IS NOT THE CASE. I
WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FIND
WAYS TO REMEDY THAT. BUT WE KNOW
FROM SEATTLE EXTENSIONS ALONE,
AS WAS STATED EARLIER, A MINIMUM
OF 59 MASTER USE PERMITS, ALONG
WITH 200 PLUS OTHER INDIVIDUAL
PERMITS, ARE HERE. COLLEAGUES,
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE
RATIONALE FOR MY AMENDMENT,
BEING ABLE TO STRIKE THIS LAST
SENTENCE IN THE UNDERLYING
AMENDMENT TO TRY TO MINIMIZE
SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AND
UNKNOWNS THAT COULD ARISE BY
INCLUDING THIS KIND OF LANGUAGE,
AND WHAT SOUNDS LIKE A NEW
ELEMENT. I'M ASKING FOR YOUR
SUPPORT. THANK YOU .
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WANTED TO
CLARIFY. FIRST OF ALL, THIS
ENTIRE WHAT THAT SENTENCE WAS
PROFFERED BY THE EXECUTIVE AND
THE DEPARTMENT THEMSELVES. IT
WAS VETTED BY LAW. THERE IS NO
INCREASED LEGAL RISK. THE
DIRECTOR MAY REQUIRE, DOESN'T
SAY REQUIRES. THIS IS JUST
REALLY GIVING FLEXIBILITY TO THE
DIRECTOR , AND AS LINDSAY SAID,
IF THEY ARE WORKING WITH SOUND
TRANSIT AND GET THIS REPORT ,
COMMUNITY OUTREACH REPORT, AND
IT IS DETERMINED THAT, PERHAPS,
SOMETHING ADDITIONAL IS NEEDED,
THEN THAT GIVES THE DIRECTOR AND
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, FOR THAT
MATTER, THE FLEXIBILITY TO WORK
WITH SOUND TRANSIT TO GET
ADDITIONAL, PERHAPS, DO
ADDITIONAL OUTREACH SOMEWHERE. I
HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT THE SDCI
DIRECTOR OR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
IS DOING ANYTHING ADDITIONAL
BASED ON ONE CONSTITUENT'S
REQUEST. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING
THEY WOULD IDENTIFY. CORRECT ME
IF I'M WRONG, MY EXPERIENCE
WITH THE DEPARTMENTS IS, IF
SOMETHING GOES NOT AS PLANNED IN
THE CONTEXT OF THIS WORK, THEN
IT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY,
HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME
ADDITIONAL OUTREACH FOR THIS
PART OF THE THING WE DID NOT
ANTICIPATE. BUT AGAIN, IT IS NOT
A REQUIREMENT TO DO SO, IT IS
MERELY A FLEXIBLE -- A POINT OF
FLEXIBILITY. AND SO, THAT IS
REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS,
BECAUSE IT IS REALLY JUST TO
ALLOW THAT FLEXIBILITY. WHILE I
UNDERSTAND THAT THE EXTERNAL
AGENCY MIGHT NOT CARE FOR THIS
PARTICULAR ADDITIONAL
FLEXIBILITY, WE ALSO NEED TO
PRESERVE, FOR OUR CITY AND OUR
DEPARTMENTS AND CONSTITUENTS,
THE FLEXIBILITY SO THAT ON THE
BACKEND OF SOMETHING GOES WRONG,
WE ARE NOT IN A SITUATION WHERE
SOMEONE IS TRYING TO SUE US
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO OUR DUE
DILIGENCE. I THINK THAT THIS WAS
PRUDENT THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY
PROFFERED BY THE MAYOR AND
DEPARTMENT. I APPRECIATE THE
FLEXIBILITY , AND THAT MAY
REQUIRE LANGUAGE VERSUS AN
ACTUAL REQUIREMENT. I WILL SAY
THAT , AGAIN, I APPRECIATED THE
DEPARTMENTS AND MAYOR'S OFFICE
PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS TO MAKE
SURE WE WERE NOT CREATING UNDUE
DELAYS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME
MAKING SURE WE HAVE INFORMATION
THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THIS WORK
AS THE DIRECTOR AND THE
DEPARTMENT ARE REVIEWING THE
PERMIT , SIMILAR TO, AS LINDSAY
SAID EARLIER, OR MAYBE IT WAS
SARAH, AND THE DESIGN REVIEW
PROCESS. WHILE IT MIGHT BE
UNIQUE TO THE SITUATION, IT IS
NOT UNIQUE TO THE CITY, IN
GENERAL IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN.
IT WOULD BE PROCESSED FOR OTHER
PROJECTS. THANK YOU, CHAIR .
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
COMMENTARY OR THOUGHTS? ALL
RIGHT. I KNOW THERE IS ANOTHER
AMENDMENT. I FEEL WE NEED TO
MOVE ON THIS ONE BEFORE WE MOVE
TO THE NEXT ONE. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE
ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT 1B?
>> [ ROLL CALL ] THREE VOTES IN
FAVOR AND TWO OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH . I JUST
WANT TO SAY THAT , YOU KNOW,
WHEN I LOOK AT THE UNDERLYING
BILL, MY THING IS, ARE WE DOING
WITH THE BILL INTENDS TODAY?
MAKE IT EASIER, STREAMLINE THE
PERMITTING PROCESS AND GET
THINGS GOING ? WE HAVE HAD
DELAYS , AND WE NEED TO MOVE THE
PROCESS FORWARD. THAT IS MY
UNDERLYING THINKING AS WE GO
THROUGH THIS. I KNOW WE DO HAVE
ANOTHER AMENDMENT . I SHOULD
SAY, YES, THE RECOMMENDATION TO
AMEND THE BILL WITH AMENDMENT B
DOES PAST. 1B .
>> CORRECT.
>> CLERK , AS MENTIONED, WE DO
HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE .
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I MOVE TO
AMEND AMENDMENT -- AMENDMENT
ONE, VERSION THREE, SECTION 30
1B WITH 1C.
>> SECOND.
>> MOVED AND SECONDED.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, DO YOU WANT
CENTRAL STAFF TO , OR PANEL TO
DISCUSS BEFORE YOU ADDRESS THE
BILL?
>> YES, PLEASE.
>> AMENDMENT 1C, WHICH IS AN
AMENDMENT TO AMENDMENT ONE AS
AMENDED BY 1B WILL RESTORE
LANGUAGE THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST
WEEK AND PRIOR ITERATIONS OF THE
COMMUNITY OUTREACH REPORT . IT
WOULD SPECIFICALLY AT A
REQUIREMENT TO THE COMMUNITY
OUTREACH REPORT, INCLUDE PROJECT
INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED
DURING OUTREACH, SOME
INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECT
ITSELF. HERE IS WHAT THE
LANGUAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE. THE
NEW LANGUAGE IS IN PURPLE. THE
FINAL SENTENCE WAS --
>> OKAY. DELTA MEMBER MOORE, YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED .
>> THANK YOU. AS I SAID, THIS
WAS ON THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT
BROUGHT BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
I AM JUST SEEKING TO REINSTATE
IT . AS NOTED, SINCE WE ARE NOT
REQUIRING PRIOR APPROVAL, THIS
IS SIMPLY GOING TO BE PROVIDING,
REQUIRE THEM TO INCLUDE WHAT WAS
THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED. I
JUST THINK , IN ORDER FOR THERE
TO BE WHOLESOME REVIEW, THAT WE
OUGHT TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE
INFORMATION PROVIDED, AND ALSO
SINCE THERE IS GOING TO BE A
SUMMARY OF PUBLIC COMMENT, IT IS
HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE
RESPONDING TO. I CONSIDER IT TO
BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT , AND A
SIMPLE AMENDMENT THAT ISN'T
GOING TO ADD AN UNDUE DELAY OR
COST. I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT. I HAVE ONE TECHNICAL
QUESTION, THOUGH, BECAUSE, SINCE
COUNCILMEMBER -- EXCUSE ME,
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK'S AMENDMENT
PASSED STRIKING THE LANGUAGE
ABOUT THE DIRECTOR MAY REQUIRE
ADDITIONAL OUTREACH, THAT IS IN
HERE. I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW
THAT WORKS.
>> THE RECORD IS PRETTY CLEAR.
THIS LAST SENTENCE IS NO LONGER
, THE COMMITTEE ACTION
>>> THE FINAL SENTENCE. OF THIS
AMENDMENT WERE TO PASS, THE
SUBSECTION B WOULD BE EVERYTHING
YOU SEE OF TO THAT FINAL
SENTENCE. I CAN READ IT OUT
LOUD, PERHAPS, FOR THE SAKE OF
THE RECORD. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD
AMEND SUBSECTION 1B, SUBSECTION
B OF SECTION 23 OF SECTION 2380
002 TO READ AS FOLLOWS. FOR
LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT FACILITY
APPLICATIONS THAT INCLUDE LIGHT
RAIL STATIONS, MAINTENANCE BASES
AND TEMPER USES FOR LIGHT RAIL
TRANSIT FACILITY STRUCTURE, THE
APPLICANT WILL SUBMIT A
COMMUNITY OUTREACH REPORT , THE
TRAFFICKING. IT SHOULD INCLUDE A
LIST OF IMPACTED STAKEHOLDERS
PREVIOUSLY TARGETED FOR PRIOR
OUTREACH IN ADVANCE OF
PERMITTING, INCLUDING PRINT,
DIGITAL AND IN-PERSON. PURPOSES
AND OBJECTIVES FOR THE OUTREACH,
PROJECT INFORMATION SHARED
DURING OUTREACH, AND A SUMMARY
OF PUBLIC COMMENT. AND IT WOULD
STOP THERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE?
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE , FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND
INCLUDING THIS FROM THE PAST
AMENDMENT THAT I BROUGHT. I ALSO
WANT TO SAY THAT I DID CHECK IN
WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE
DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY, YOU KNOW, WERE OKAY WITH
THIS PARTICULAR SENTENCE SINCE
IT WAS A HOLDOVER FROM THE LAST
AMENDMENT. AND THEY WERE FINE
WITH IT. I THINK IT MAKES A LOT
OF SENSE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE A PROJECT INFORMATION THAT
WAS BEING SHARED AS PART OF THIS
OUTREACH. AGAIN, SOUND TRANSIT
ALREADY HAS THIS. HAVING THEM
GIVE IT TO US, I DON'T THINK,
WILL INCUR ANY DELAYS OR COSTS
OR IS A HEAVY LIFT FOR THE
AGENCY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS .
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. TO THE
COMMITTEE TABLE OR TO THE
SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, I CAN
READ THE WORDS ON THIS PAGE. I
GREW UP IN BALLARD EMMA BUT I
DID LEARN TO READ. PROJECT
INFORMATION SHARED DURING
PROJECT OUTREACH. WHAT DOES THAT
MEAN? . I ASKED THAT, NOT
RHETORICALLY. I AM HAPPY FOR
ANYONE TO ANSWER. I SAY THAT AS,
ARE WE GOING BACK TO 2015 FOR
ST3 OUTREACH? ARE WE GOING BACK
TO THE MEETING AT BALLARD HIGH
SCHOOL WHERE COUNCILMEMBER
SHOWED UP TO SOUND TRANSIT AND
TOLD THEM THEY WEREN'T BUILDING
A BRIDGE. EFFECT, WE WERE DOING
A TUNNEL TO SOUND TRANSIT'S
CHAGRIN. WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF
THIS? FRANKLY, HOW MANY PIECES
OF PAPER ARE WE GOING TO PRINT ?
ARE WE MINIATURIZING SOME OF
THIS OUTREACH? . I'M A LITTLE
STUNNED.
>> OUR INTERPRETATION -- WAS AT
A QUESTION TO ME? BUT I'M HAPPY
TO HAVE ANYONE ANSWER.
>> OUR INTERPRETATION IS THAT
THE WHOLE INTENT HERE IS REALLY
FOCUSED ON THE ENGAGEMENT
INFORMING THE PERMIT ACTIVITY.
IS NOT MEANT TO GO ALL THE WAY
BACK TO WHEN ST3 WAS FIRST BEING
DEVELOPED IN 2014 IN ADVANCE OF
THE VOTE. IT IS REALLY FOCUS ON
ALL OF THE ENGAGEMENT HAPPENING
BETWEEN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW,
WHICH IS A PRETTY ROBUST
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, AND THEN
FINAL DESIGN AND GETTING
EVERYTHING TO A PERMIT
SUBMITTAL. OUR INTERPRETATION OF
THE LANGUAGE, AS PROPOSED IN THE
AMENDMENT, IS THAT IT WOULD THEN
TIE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROJECT
INFORMATION TO THE ENGAGEMENT
REPORT SO IT IS CLEAR WHAT
ENGAGEMENT WAS ABOUT THE STATION
DESIGNS OR WHAT WAS ABOUT THE
GUIDEWAY DESIGNS, OR ABOUT THE
EFFECT OF LANDOWNERS OR PROPERTY
OWNERS. BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW AS
A BOARD MEMBER, THERE ARE SO
MANY DIFFERENT PLACES WERE SOUND
TRANSIT ENGAGES ON SO MANY
DIFFERENT ISSUES RELATED TO THE
SYSTEM. SO THIS WOULD REQUIRE
SOUND TRANSIT IN THAT REPORT TO
TIE THE ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITY TO
WHAT THE ENGAGEMENT WAS ABOUT.
WAS AT ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL
IN CRITICAL AREAS OR TREE LOSS
NEAR THE DELRAY STATION? WAS IT
ABOUT IMPACTED PROPERTY OWNERS
IN SODO. THAT IS MY
INTERPRETATION, BUT I WOULD
INVITE -- I WOULD PUT THE
QUESTION OUT TO OTHERS TO MAKE
SURE THAT IS THE SHARED
INTERPRETATION.
>> I KNOW WE HAD SOUND TRANSIT
AND SOUND MOVE BILLS THROUGH THE
CITY OF SEATTLE. WAS IS NOT -- I
MEAN, THIS INFORMATION WAS
CLEARLY COLLECTED FOR THOSE
PERMITS. WAS THERE AN ISSUE
GETTING THIS INFORMATION FROM
SOUND TRANSIT? WHAT PROBLEM IS
THIS LOOKING TO SOLVE? MAYBE YOU
CAN ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION.
COLLEAGUES, THE REASON YOU ARE
SEEING ME GETTING A LITTLE
EXERCISE OVER HERE IS I HAVE
SPENT HOURS AND HOURS TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS AND
POTENTIAL UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES OF COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA'S AMENDMENT. I JUST ONLY
HAD, AGAIN, 30 MINUTES TO TRY TO
DIGEST . AND YES, IT IS SIX
WORDS , BUT SIX WORDS CAN CREATE
A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF
BUREAUCRACY, A LOT OF RED TAPE.
I AM TRYING TO FULLY UNDERSTAND
BEFORE A VOTE ON THIS WHAT WE
ARE IMPLYING BACK TO THE
QUESTION OF, WAS THIS A PROBLEM
GETTING THIS INFORMATION FROM
SOUND TRANSIT DOING SOUND MOVE
AND ST2?
>> NOT HAVING BEEN HERE DIRECTLY
FOR SOUND MOVE AND TRANSIT --
ST2 PERMITTING, I WILL SAY AT A
HIGH LEVEL THE WHOLE INTENT OF
THE CODE AMENDMENT LEGISLATION
IS TO DO BETTER THAN WE DID IN
SOUND MOVE AND ST2 BECAUSE WE
RECOGNIZED THE PROJECT IS SO
MUCH MORE COMPLICATED, WE WANT
TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER IT
QUICKLY. THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH
REPORT LANGUAGE THAT IS HERE,
JUST TO GO BACK, YOU KNOW, OUR
DEPARTMENTS WORKED VERY
COLLABORATIVELY AND ARE
SUPPORTIVE OF THE LANGUAGE
DRAFTED. WE DON'T SEE THIS
ADDITIONAL SIX WORDS AS ADDING
ANYTHING UNTOWARD OR ANYTHING
THAT WOULD ADD UNDUE DELAY OR
COMPLEXITY THAT WOULDN'T
ALREADY BE PART OF WHAT SOUND
TRANSIT IS DOING. THAT IS OUR
INTERPRETATION OF IT,
COUNCILMEMBER .
>> -- MAYBE , IF THERE'S
ANYTHING TO ADD FROM YOUR
PERSPECTIVE.
>> THESE SIX WORDS ARE NOT GOING
TO ADD ADDITIONAL DELAY. OR IS
THERE RISK IN THE SIX WORDS
CREATING ADDITIONAL DELAY? DO WE
BELIEVE SOUND TRANSIT IS
COLLECTING THIS INFORMATION
ALREADY AS PART OF THE QUARTERLY
UPDATES THEY PROVIDE TO THE
BOARD, THE ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITY
THEY ARE DOING. OUR
INTERPRETATION OF THE LANGUAGE,
YOU KNOW, WE SAW THE LANGUAGE
AND TALKED ABOUT OUR POSITION ON
THE LANGUAGE. THIS ISN'T A
FORMAL EXECUTIVE POSITION,
BECAUSE IT IS LINGUISTIC GOT
ADDED BACK IN. IN GOOD FAITH,
JUST TO SAY AT THE TABLE HERE,
OUR INTERPRETATION OF THIS IS
THAT IT DOESN'T DO HARM, AND
THAT IT'S OKAY. WE HAVEN'T HAD
THE TIME TO GO BACK TO SOUND
TRANSIT AND ASKED THEM, BUT OUR
INTERPRETATION IS THAT THIS IS
LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN MOVE
FORWARD WITH .
>> JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, WE, AS
THE CITY OF SEATTLE HAVE NOT
ENGAGED WITH SOUND TRANSIT ON
THE SIX WORDS?
>> I'M NOT DIRECTLY ENGAGE WITH
THEM ON THESE SIX WORDS PER
>> THANK YOU. THAT IS A PROBLEM
FOR ME.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK IT IS A
FAIR QUESTION . AGAIN, THE
INTENT FROM THE SPONSOR IS ,
BECAUSE THIS WAS WITHIN THE
ORIGINAL LANGUAGE FROM
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, WHICH WHEN
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PRIOR TO
PERMIT APPLICATION, SUBMITTING A
COMP PLAN. THE PLAN REQUIRED A
LIST OF WHO WAS GOING TO BE
IMPACTED, THE METHODS OF
COMMUNICATION , THE PURPOSE AND
OBJECTIVES FOR THE OUTREACH, AND
THE PROJECT INFORMATION
ANTICIPATED TO BE SHARED DURING
THE OUTREACH. CLEARLY, THE
INFORMATION WAS TIED TO YOUR
OUTREACHING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING
TO HAPPEN , AND WE WANT THAT
INFORMATION TO BE -- WE WANT TO
KNOW THAT INFORMATION YOU ARE
PROVIDING TO THEM THAT THIS IS
COMING. IT IS A LITTLE TRICKY
WHEN YOU ARE PULLING IT AND
PUTTING IT INTO A NEW PROVISION,
BUT THAT IS CURRENTLY WHAT THE
INTENT , CERTAINLY, MY INTENT
AND SPONSOR OF THIS AMENDMENT IS
JUST TO REINSTATE THAT. TELL US
WHAT YOU TOLD THEM AS PART OF
THE PLAN THAT YOU ARE PRESENTING
A SHOWING US WHO YOU OUT REACHED
TO , AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT
OUTREACH. WHAT DID YOU TELL
THEM, AND WHAT DID THEY SAY? I
DON'T KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS, IF THAT RESOLVES ANY OF
YOUR CONCERNS. THAT IS CERTAINLY
THE INTENT OF WHAT THIS IS.
>> THANK YOU. JUST ANSWER
DIRECTLY , COUNCILMEMBER MOORE,
IF I A TIME TO SPEAK TO SOUND
TRANSIT, THAT WOULD HELP RESOLVE
THE CONCERNS. YOU MAKE A GOOD
POINT. YOU MAKE A GOOD CASE. MY
PROBLEM IS THAT THE PROCESS OF
GOVERNING IS HINDERED WITHOUT MY
ABILITY TO CHECK IN WITH THE
AGENCY WHICH I ALSO SIT ON AS A
BOARD MEMBER. THANK YOU.
>> I WILL RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. THANK YOU
--
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE FOR EXPLAINING THAT. IT IS
CONSISTENT WITH MY ORIGINAL --
WHEN I INTENDED, WHEN I
ORIGINALLY ADDED THE SIX WORDS,
AS YOU SAY , WHAT DID YOU TELL
THE PEOPLE WHEN YOU DID THE
OUTREACH? IT WAS AS SIMPLE AS
THAT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I
HAVE AN OUTREACH SUMMARY FROM
SOUND TRANSIT . AS I SAID LAST
TIME, WE HAD A REALLY GREAT
CONVERSATION. I GOT A BRIEFING.
COLLEAGUES, I DON'T THINK YOU
HAVE THIS, AND THIS IS PART OF
MY POINT TOO. IT IS REALLY NICE
TO SEE THE OUTREACH THAT THE
AGENCIES DO WHEN THEY ARE DOING
THESE PROJECTS. IN HERE, THEY
VERY CLEARLY HAVE TIMELINES FOR
THE OUTREACH, WHOM THEY DID THE
OUTREACH TO, HOW MANY OUTREACH
EVENTS , IN PERSON, OPEN HOUSES,
EMAILS THEY SENT, YOU KNOW, ET
CETERA, ET CETERA. WITH A
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SCHEDULE ,
AND THEN SOME PRELIMINARY STAFF
FOR BALLARD LINK EVEN. THIS IS
NOT -- I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW
MANY PAGES THIS IS. IT IS UNDER
20 PAGES. IT IS 18 PAGES, OR 19.
IT IS NOT ONEROUS BUT I DO FEEL
LIKE THIS IS SOMEHOW BEING
PORTRAYED A LITTLE BIT -- JESS,
I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S
FRUSTRATIONS. I AGREE THAT
PROCESS SHOULD NOT HINDER THE
THINGS WE WANT TO DO. AGAIN,
WHEN I CAME TO THE CITY 25 YEARS
AGO, I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE THERE
WASN'T A TRANSIT , A LIGHT RAIL
TRAIN SYSTEM, BECAUSE THAT IS
WHAT I GREW UP WITH. WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THESE PROJECTS
ARE MOVING FORWARD . AT THE SAME
TIME, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING.
AND SO, IT MAY SEEM TO EVERYONE
THAT I AM ASKING FOR THIS, BUT
IT IS REALLY NOT INTENDED TO BE
A PAUSE, A DELAY OR OBSTRUCTION.
IT IS REALLY MEANT TO BE -- I
HAVE HEARD FROM FOLKS THAT WE DO
PROJECTS, NOT JUST THIS PROJECT,
MANY DIFFERENT PROJECTS. PEOPLE
ARE CONSTANTLY SAYING, WE
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
I KNOW IT IS HARD TO DO
OUTREACH. I STARTED MY CAREER 30
YEARS AGO IN OUTREACH. YOU FIND
ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS. THERE
WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE WHO SAYS
THEY DIDN'T KNOW, BUT THE MORE
THINGS YOU CAN SHOW THEM, THE
MORE THAT THEY CAN SEE, I DON'T
KNOW HOW YOU MISSED IT. WE DID
IT. THEY ARE DOING IT. I SAID
BEFORE, I SAID IT ABOUT FIVE
TIMES TODAY, I WILL SAY ONE LAST
TIME. SOUND TRANSIT IS DOING THE
OUTREACH. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR THEM TO SHOW THEIR WORK TO
US. I SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO ASK
FOR A BRIEFING TO SEE THE WORK
THAT THEY ARE SHARING IT WITH
OUR CITY DEPARTMENT. THAN I HAVE
IT TOO, AND YOU ALL HAVE IT, IF
YOU WANT TO AT THIS LEVEL. THAT
IS ALL THIS IS. AND SO, YOU
KNOW, WHILE I APPRECIATE
EVERYONE IS CONCERNED, AND I
UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CONCERN IS
COMING FROM, I CAN ASSURE YOU
THAT MY INTENT, WHAT WAS IN MY
BRAIN, WAS NOT TO, AT ALL,
DELAY, HAVE EVEN THIS LONG OF A
CONVERSATION ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT WAS SO INNOCUOUSLY
PROFFERED AT THE LAST MEETING,
BUT THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT SO
THAT WE SHOW OUR WORK TO OUR
CONSTITUENTS. AGAIN, I WANT TO
THANK THE DEPARTMENT AND THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR ENGAGING
WITH ME AND UNDERSTANDING THE
INTENT BEHIND THIS, AND REALLY,
PUTTING SOME LANGUAGE TOGETHER
THAT WE CAN ALL BE OKAY WITH
THAT REALLY DOESN'T DELAY
ANYTHING SO THAT WE, YOU KNOW,
WE CAN ADDRESS THE
CONSTITUENTS' CONCERN AROUND
OUTREACH THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY
HEARING, AND AT THE SAME TIME,
WE ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE WITH
THIS AMAZING PROJECT. I WANT TO
SEE MY NEIGHBORS IN WEST SEATTLE
AND BALLARD HAVE THE SAME ACCESS
TO LIGHT RAIL THAT I HAVE IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD , AND THAT MY KIDS
AND I RIDE CONSTANTLY. ALL I CAN
SAY IS THAT IS WHERE IT WAS
COMING FROM. WHAT IS BEING ASKED
IS JUST, TELL US WHAT YOU TOLD
THEM AS PART OF THE DIRECTOR'S
REVIEW OF ALL OF THIS. THIS IS
JUST ONE ADDITIONAL THING. MAYBE
IT WASN'T PROFFERED IN THE
PAST. MAYBE NOBODY THOUGHT TO
INCLUDE IT OR ASK FOR IT, BUT I
THOUGHT ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DO
HAVE 30 YEARS OF OUTREACH UNDER
MY BELT, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS
IMPORTANT FOR CONSTITUENTS TO
KNOW, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE
DIRECTOR AND THE DEPARTMENT WHO
IS ACTUALLY PROFFERING THESE
PERMITS, AND IN THE SPIRIT OF
PARTNERSHIP, SOMETIMES SOMEBODY
CAN SAY, HEY, HERE IS AN
ADDITIONAL WAY YOU CAN DO
OUTREACH, AN ADDITIONAL
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PROFFERED
IN PARTNERSHIP, NOT AS
OBSTRUCTION, THAT WOULD BE
HELPFUL TO REALLY CONTINUE TO
BUILD SUPPORT FOR THIS THING.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAFFIC
APUS BUT I BELIEVE STILL IN
DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENT 1C. I
WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE AMENDMENT
SPONSOR IF SHE WOULD CONSIDER,
PERHAPS, BRINGING THIS TO FULL
COUNSEL. WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF
THE CONCEPT, I WOULD LIKE YOUR
OFFICE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION
INTO DISCUSSION WITH SOUND
TRANSIT BEFORE BEING ABLE TO
VOTE ON THIS. WITHOUT THAT, I
WOULD NEED TO ABSTAIN ON THE
AMENDMENT FOR TODAY.
>> HELP THE MATTER MOORE.
>> I'M HAPPY TO WAIT UNTIL FULL
COUNCIL. THAT WILL GIVE US A
CHANCE TO TALK TO SOUND TRANSIT,
AND ALSO, I COULD CLARIFY THIS
INFORMATION SHARED DURING THE
OUTREACH SHOULD BE AS DOCUMENTED
-- IT WOULD BE PROJECT
INFORMATION SHARED DURING THE
OUTREACH DOCUMENTED IN THE
COMMUNITY OUTREACH REPORT. WE
ARE SENDING SOME GUARDRAILS AND
PARAMETERS. I AM HAPPY TO WAIT.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR AGREEMENT
TO HOLD THIS UNTIL NEXT COUNCIL.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO , ASK
THE CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF
COUNCIL BILL --
>> POINT OF WATER. ARE WE AT A
POINT OF VOTING ON THE
UNDERLYING AMENDMENT? I THOUGHT
WE WERE PULLING LITERACY AT THIS
POINT
>> WE ARE PULLING LITERACY AT
THIS POINT. -- C AT THIS POINT.
>> BEFORE WE GO, I HAVE COMMENTS
ON THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT.
>> ACTUALLY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
DISCUSSIONS ON THE AMENDMENT AS
AMENDED .
>> THANK YOU. I TAKE FULL FACE
IN THE SPONSORS STATEMENT. I
BELIEVE YOUR INTENTIONS ARE NOT
TO CREATE HARM, TO CREATE DELAY,
TO CREATE CHURN, TO CREATE
TENSION. OVERALL, THIS
CONVERSATION DOES, YOU KNOW,
THERE IS LIGHT RAIL IN DISTRICT
4, IN DISTRICT 5, THERE IS NOT
IN DISTRICT 1 AND 6. IT FEELS
LIKE THE HAVES TELLING THE
HAVE-NOTS HOW TO DO THEIR
BUSINESS. THAT IS WHAT THIS
FEELS LIKE TO ME TODAY. I WANT
TO BRING US BACK AND BRING US TO
A REGIONAL LEVEL . SOUND
TRANSIT'S BUDGET, AS WE SHARED
, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEEK ,
IS NOT SUSTAINABLE IN THE 2040s
WITHOUT SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES MADE
AND DEFICIENCIES FOUND IN
OPERATIONS AND IN CONSTRUCTION .
THERE WAS NOT -- THE WORD
REALIGNMENT WAS INTENTIONALLY
NOT USED. WERE GOING THROUGH AN
ENTERPRISE EXERCISE . BUT I CAN
TELL YOU THAT THE ALARM BELLS
ARE RINGING, AND THEY ARE
RINGING LOUD . THIS MIGHT NOT OF
HIT SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL'S
CHAMBERS YET. I BELIEVE THIS IS
THE THIRD TIME I HAVE SAID IN A
WEEK. AND STILL, THE FULL
IMPLICATIONS OF THE BUDGET BEING
OUT OF BALANCE IN THE 2040s IS
BIGGER THAN ANY OF US REALIZE .
WE HAVE ALREADY HAD BOARD
MEMBERS DISCUSSING MINIMUM
OPERATING SEGMENTS AS A WAY TO
SOLVE FOR THIS. WHAT DOES THAT
FALSELY MEAN FOR THE CITY OF
SEATTLE? THAT MEANS THE WEST
SEATTLE EXTENSION WOULD MAKE IT
TO DELL RIDGE. IT MEANS THE
BALLOT SEGMENT WOULD MAKE IT TO.
WHEN I HEARD THIS STATED AT THE
BOARD ROOM, I GOT A LITTLE HOT
AND SAID, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO
THAT, THEN YOU HAVE TO CHANGE
THE NAME FROM THE BALLOT SEGMENT
TO THE SMITH SEGMENT. WE, AS THE
CITY OF SEATTLE, MUST DO ALL WE
CAN TO STREAMLINE COSTS AND
PROCESSES, BECAUSE SOUND TRANSIT
IS DOING THE SAME, AND BECAUSE
WITH SEATTLE IS ALREADY DOUBLE
THE COST OF ORIGINAL ESTIMATIONS
, AND WE DON'T HAVE FINAL
NUMBERS FOR BALLARD, BUT I CAN
ONLY IMAGINE IT TO BE THE SAME,
WHICH IS WHY WE MUST, AS A CITY
OF SEATTLE, DO ALL WE CAN TO
STREAMLINE COSTS AND PROCESSES.
THE LARGEST COST DRIVER IS
DELAYED. WHILE LINK LIGHT RAIL
HAS ALREADY REACHED D 4 AND D 4,
TRAINS WITH SEATTLE ARE NOT
GUARANTEED. AS I SAID, THIS
AMENDMENT FEELS LIKE THE HAVES
TELLING THE HAVE-NOTS HOW TO DO
THEIR BUSINESS. THAT MIGHT NOT
BE THE CASE, AND IT IS NOT YOUR
INTENTION. I KNOW THAT TO BE
TRUE, BUT INTENTIONS OF FEELINGS
ARE NOT FACTS. NOTHING PRECLUDES
COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM ENGAGING
SOUND TRANSIT . I DO BELIEVE IT
IS COUNCIL MEMBERS ' DUTIES TO
ENGAGE . IF YOU'RE NOT
RECEIVING THE INFORMATION YOU
WANT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO LET
BOARD MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR
KNOW. I CAN TELL YOU THAT OVER
THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF I HAVE
HAD MY STRUGGLES RECEIVING
INFORMATION FROM SOUND TRANSIT
TO THE POINT I ABSTAINED ON A
VOTE FROM THEM FOR SOME BASIC
INFORMATION. I BELIEVE THAT THE
AGENCY HAS COURSE CORRECTED. I
HAVE SEEN MORE INFORMATION
SHARED, AND I'VE HEARD
CONSTANTINE USE THE WORDS
MEDICAL TRANSPARENCY MORE TIMES
IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS
THAN I HAVE GOT FINGERS AND
TOES. WILL COLLEAGUES ALSO MIGHT
NOT REMEMBER IT WAS ELECTED
LEADERS GROUP OF 2018 AND 2019,
WHICH DETERMINES THE PREFERRED
ALTERNATIVE FOR BOTH WITH
SEATTLE AND BALLARD. COUNCIL
MEMBERS JOHNSON, O'BRIEN,
GONZALES, HERBOLD, AS WELL AS
MAYOR. AND WERE BROUGHT INTO
WORK WITH REGIONAL PARTNERS.
THIS WAS A SPECIFIC GROUP OF
INTENSE COLLABORATION AND
OUTREACH . YOU MAY OR MAY NOT
REMEMBER OLD BELLEVUE . YOU
MIGHT NOT, BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER
BALDUCCI HAS IMPROVED
BELLEVUE'S REPUTATION AS FAR AS
TRANSIT GOES IN A WAY THAT I
DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE HAS IN
YEARS, BECAUSE IT WAS A TIME
THAT BELLEVUE WAS RESISTANT TO
RECEIVING LIGHT RAIL. THERE CITY
COUNCIL AT A COST , DELAY AND
MADE PLANNING MORE DIFFICULT.
THE UNDERLYING BILL HERE SETS US
ON A DIFFERENT PATH AND OLD
BELLEVUE BY STREAMLINING
PROCESSES, SAVING COSTS AND
TIME. BUT I WORRY THIS AMENDMENT
SETS THIS WORK BACK. I DON'T
WANT OUR CITY TO BE LIKE OLD
BELLEVUE. WE HAVE HER
MUNICIPALITIES WHO DON'T YET
HAVE LIGHT RAIL HOW TO SPEED
DELIVERY TO THEIR RESIDENTS. ON
THE OTHER HAND, WE DON'T WANT
TO BE SEEN IN THE REGION AS
HINDERING A STREAMLINED PROCESS,
BECAUSE SUCH BEHAVIOR SHOWS
REGIONAL PARTNERS , WHETHER
INTENTIONAL OR NOT, WHETHER TRUE
OR JUST A FEELING, THAT SEATTLE
ISN'T DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE
TO HELP SOLVE THE BIG PROBLEMS
BEFORE THE REGION AND THE
AGENCY. BECAUSE OF WE ARE NOT
SEEING PARTNERING TO SOLVE THE
BIG PROBLEMS, THEY MAY SAY WE
SHOULD FINISH THE SPINE BEFORE
EXPANDING IN SEATTLE. WE ONLY
JUST REACHED SNOHOMISH COUNTY
LAST AUGUST. AND WITH SEATTLE
AND BALLARD ARE IN PLANNING
STAGES THAT OR AHEAD OF REACHING
EVERETT. THE ORIGINAL PROMISE OF
LINK LIGHT RAIL WAS TO CONNECT
THE SPINE. WE COME AGAIN, STILL
HAVEN'T REACHED PIERCE COUNTY.
AT ALL. I WILL REMIND THE BODY
THAT SOUND TRANSIT IS A REGIONAL
ENTITY . SEATTLE HAS TWO OF 18
VOTES. WE NEED TO BE SEEN AS A
PARTNER BECAUSE THE SOUND
TRANSIT BUS IT IS NOT WHOLE IN
THE 2040S. SEATTLE PROJECT ARE
PLANNED TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE
WE FINISH THE SPINE AND CRITICAL
VOTES HAVE NOT YET BEEN TAKEN,
AND WE AS A CITY, CAN BE
OUTVOTED. I AM CONCERNED THAT
THIS AMENDMENT INDICATES TO THE
REGION THAT WE ARE ACTING LIKE
THE OLD W , EVEN THOUGH I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT IS THE SPONSOR'S
INTENTION. IT IS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP
STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS AND GET
THESE TRAINS BUILT. NICU.
>> -- THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. I SEE WE
HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS . I AM
MINDFUL OF TIME. I DO NOT WANT
TO CUT OFF ANY OF MY COUNCIL
MEMBERS FROM HAVING THE
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS
THEMSELVES. NOT SURE IF IT WAS
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE OR RINCK WHO
HAD THEIR HAND UP FIRST.
>> RINCK.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THE
CONFUSION AND LAST-MINUTE NATURE
OF THESE CHANGES FROM LAST
WEEK'S COMMITTEE IS WHAT HAS
BROUGHT US HERE TODAY. MY
CONCERNS WERE CONFIRMED --
AFFIRMED IN THAT THIS AMENDMENT,
THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PRESENTED
LAST WEEK AND DISCUSSED HERE IN
COMMITTEE, WITHOUT MONTHS OF
DELAY AND INCREASE COSTS. SINCE
THEN, MY OFFICE HAS RECEIVED
OVER 750 EMAILS IN OPPOSITION TO
THIS AMENDMENT. THERE HAS BEEN A
LOT OF CONCERN BY OUR
CONSTITUENCY DUE TO LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY AND THE
ACCESSIBILITY OF THE AMENDMENTS.
IT WASN'T PUBLISHED PUBLICLY
UNTIL THE WEEK AFTER IT WAS
FIRST CONSIDERED. AND WHILE MANY
OF MY CONCERNS HAVE BEEN
MITIGATED IN THE UNDERLYING
AMENDMENT AS A WHOLE, AND I
THINK THE AMENDMENT SPONSOR FOR
HER RECEPTIVITY TO FEEDBACK AND
FOR THE COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL OF
MY MMI FOR TODAY, I STILL
BELIEVE THAT THIS UNDERLYING
AMENDMENT BRINGS US BACK AND
DOES NOT MOVE US FORWARD. THANK
YOU .
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE .
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I JUST WANT
TO SAY , THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
GO BACK AND WORK WITH SDCI AND
SOUND TRANSIT AND THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE
CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED. I
THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT NOT
TO FALL INTO THIS , SORT OF,
CLASSIST TROPE THAT IF YOU
DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING, WE ARE
PITTING ONE COMMUNITY AGAINST
ANOTHER. WE ARE ALL SEEKING TO
GET TRANSIT FOR ALL OF OUR
RESIDENTS , NO MATTER WHERE YOU
LIVE IN THE CITY. THERE ARE
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. THIS IS
NOT ABOUT NIMBY IS HIM. IT IS
GOING TO BE SPUN THAT WAY DOES
THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT CAME
WERE PERSONAL ATTACKS. THE
MOORE, RIVERA DOUBLE PUNCH KIND
OF NONSENSE PERSONAL ATTACKS.
JUST MORE HATE BECAUSE PEOPLE
DON'T AGREE WITH A PARTICULAR
POSITION WE ARE TAKING. THIS
ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE WE
DON'T GIVE A FLYING F ABOUT
ANYBODY THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH
IS NONSENSE. IT IS INSULTING. I
SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE IN PUBLIC
SERVICE . I STARTED AS A PUBLIC
DEFENDER . I ATE PEANUT BUTTER
SANDWICHES BECAUSE I DIDN'T
MAKE ENOUGH MONEY . I LIVED WITH
THREE OTHER PEOPLE AS A
PROFESSIONAL. I HAVE SPENT MY
ENTIRE LIFE WORKING TO BETTER
OTHERS . I CANNOT BEGIN TO TELL
YOU HOW TIRED I AM OF THIS
NARRATIVE . SO YEAH, I SUPPORT A
LITTLE BIT MORE PROCESS, BECAUSE
THEY ARE ALREADY ENGAGED IN THE
PROCESS. THERE IS NOTHING HERE
THAT WE ARE ASKING THEM TO DO
THAT THEY ARE NOT ALREADY DOING.
WE ARE JUST ASKING THEM TO SHOW
US THEIR WORK. PARTLY TO COVER
OUR OWN BACKSIDE, BECAUSE AS WE
SAW WITH THE COMP PLAN, WE HAD A
LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN THEY
WEREN'T OUTREACH TO TO AND A
LOT OF DISAGREEMENT ABOUT
WHETHER THAT HAPPENED OR NOT. WE
NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT WE
DID IT IT LOOKS LIKE SOUND
TRANSIT IS ACTUALLY DOING A
REALLY GOOD JOB BASED ON WHAT
THEY HAVE PRESENTED TO
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. I THINK
THEY ARE MAKING PROGRESS .
THEY'RE DOING MUCH BETTER. WE
ARE JUST ASKING YOU TO SHOW US
YOUR WORK. IT IS A SIMPLE
ATTACHMENT TO THE APPLICATION.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
DISCUSSION ABOUT, IT IS GOING TO
CREATE IMMENSE DELAY, IMMENSE
COST. THERE HAS NOT BEEN A
SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS ACTUALLY
PRESENTED A FACT . THOSE ARE ALL
ASSERTIONS. WHERE ARE THE FACTS?
WE HAVE GOT 59 PERMITS. MANY OF
THEM ARE GOING TO BE BUNDLED.
WHERE ARE THE ACTUAL FACTS OF
COST AND DELAY? I DO NOT SEE
THEM. THE OTHER POINT IS, THE
EXECUTIVE HAS DRAFTED THIS
LANGUAGE. THEY VIEW IT AS BEING
SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK, AND
THAT WILL NOT CONTINUE, THAT
WILL NOT CREATE UNNECESSARY
DELAY. ANY PROBLEMS THAT
OCCURRED WITH ST3 ARE LONG IN
THE MAKING. THEY ARE NOT TIED TO
THIS VERY SIMPLE TRANSPARENCY
AMENDMENT . WE ARE ALL ABOUT
TRANSPARENCY . AND NOW, WE HAVE
TAKEN OUT THE PIECE ABOUT
REQUIRING , ALLOWING THE
DIRECTOR TO HAVE ADDITIONAL
DISCRETION . FAIR ENOUGH. I
THINK THAT IS A GOOD CHANGE,
EVEN THOUGH I VOTED AGAINST IT.
IT IS STILL A GOOD CHANGE. IT
ALSO COME AGAIN, REMOVES THE
ABILITY FOR THIS NARRATIVE THAT
THIS WILL SOMEHOW CREATE
ADDITIONAL DELAY. WE HAVE GOT TO
BE ABLE TO HAVE THOUGHTFUL ,
FACT-BASED CONVERSATIONS AND
DISAGREEMENT. WE HAVE GOT TO
MOVE AWAY FROM THESE IDEOLOGICAL
HEARTS TALKING POINTS THAT
PROHIBIT US FROM MAKING PROGRESS
IN THIS CITY. THIS IS JUST A
SMALL, SMALL EXAMPLE OF THE
BIGGER PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE
FACING IN THIS CITY IN TRYING TO
MOVE THINGS FORWARD AND WORK
TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY. I
UNDERSTAND CONCERNS ABOUT THE
PROCESS. AGAIN, IT WAS ALL DONE
LATE, BUT EVERYBODY HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT. WE
HAVE HAD FULL DEBATE UP HERE. I
HAVE AGREED TO PULL MINDS WE CAN
HAVE ADDITIONAL DEBATE. SO I
JUST NEED TO GET THAT OFF MY
CHEST. I KNOW THAT NO MATTER
WHAT I SAY, IT IS GOING TO BE
SPUN. I HATE TRANSIT, I HATE
POOR PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, I'M ALL
ABOUT. THE FACTS SHOW THAT THAT
IS NOT THE CASE . FEEL FREE TO
COME AND TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW I
HAVE DEDICATED 30 PLUS YEARS TO
THE PUBLIC SERVICE AND IMPROVING
THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T
HAVE A VOICE AND HAVE CHOSEN TO
PUT MYSELF OUT HERE FOR ALL THIS
LOVE THAT I GET EVERY DAY .
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. COLLEAGUES,
THE EMAILS THAT WE ALL GOT WERE
BASED ON VERSION 1. WE ARE ON
VERSION 3. THIS IS SO MUCH
DIFFERENT THAN THE ORIGINAL
VERSION. AND IT IS BETTER,
BECAUSE WE WORKED TOGETHER.
THERE WAS NOTHING NEFARIOUS
ABOUT BRINGING AMENDMENT ONE.
AGAIN, I'VE EXPLAINED MULTIPLE
TIMES WHAT I WAS TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH. I HAVE TO SAY , I
SAID LAST WEEK, AND I CONTINUE
TO BE IN DISBELIEF, ABOUT WHAT
THIS VERY MINOR AMENDMENT WAS
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. I THINK
THERE IS SOMETHING UNDERLYING
POLITICAL AT PLAY HERE THAT I AM
-- I INADVERTENTLY STEPPED INTO.
BUT FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT,
THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS
AMENDMENT THAT IS EGREGIOUS .
YOU HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES,
NOT JUST FROM COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE AND I, BUT FROM THE
MAHER'S OFFICE, THE ST3 TEAM,
THE SDCI THAT THIS IS NOT GOING
TO CAUSE DELAY OR COSTS, BECAUSE
THIS WAS CHANGED TO ACCOMPLISH
WHAT I HAD ORIGINALLY IN MIND,
AND SO IT WILL ACCOMPLISH US
GETTING THE WORK FROM SOUND
TRANSIT AND SHOWING THEIR WORK,
AS WE HAVE TO PERMIT THIS , THIS
IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. TO
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE TODAY, AND
THE SAME POINTS WE BOTH MADE
LAST WEEK, WE ARE COVERING OUR
BACKS BY HAVING , MAKING SURE WE
HAVE INSIGHT INTO THAT OUTREACH.
AND SO, AGAIN, NO DELAYS. WE
HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES . NO
COSTS. AT THIS POINT, ANY
RETICENCE TO VOTE FOR THIS IS
STRICTLY POLITICAL AND NOT
POLICY. THAT IS FINE. THAT IS
PEOPLES PREROGATIVE. BUT I DO
NOT WANTED TO BE LEFT UNSAID
THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW CREATING A
DELAY , OR COST, OR SOME
OBSTRUCTION TO SOME
LONG-STANDING THING THAT IS
HAPPENING WITH ST3. WHATEVER IS
HAPPENING IS NOT BASED ON THIS
AMENDMENT. I DON'T WANT THIS
VERY SMALL AMENDMENT THAT I VIEW
AS GOOD GOVERNANCE TO BE THE
SCAPEGOAT FOR A BIGGER PROBLEM
THAT MIGHT BE UNDERLYING THESE
PROJECTS. I DON'T THINK IT IS
OKAY. I THINK EVERYONE HAS AMPLE
OPPORTUNITY IN A DIFFERENT FORM
AND IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO SHOW
THEIR DISPLEASURE OR WHATEVER IT
IS THAT IS UNDERLYING THIS
CONVERSATION AND WHAT I VIEW TO
BE A POLITICAL PLAY. IT IS NOT
BASED ON THIS ONE VERY MINOR
AMENDMENT THAT IS NOT REQUIRING
, HONESTLY AND TRULY, MUCH OF
ANYTHING. AT THIS POINT. YOU ARE
WELCOME TO VOTE FOR IT, NOT VOTE
FOR HER. OF ITALY, WE ALL HAVE
THAT PREROGATIVE. BUT I DO NOT
WANT IT -- THE CONTINUAL ABOUT
COSTING MONEY, MORE MONEY, OR
ADDING DELAYS. THAT IS NOT TRUE.
THIS BILL THAT WE ARE VOTING ON
TODAY. THIS IS NOT LAST WEEK'S
VERSION. THIS IS NOW AT VERSION
3 THAT I WORKED WITH THE
MAHER'S OFFICE ON. THEY ARE
FINE WITH IT. THEY DON'T VIEW
IT AS CREATING COSTS. THE
DEPARTMENT IS THE ONE DOING THE
WORK. SO THEY WOULD SAY SO IF
THEY FELT THAT WAY. I DON'T
KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THAT THIS
NOW IS GETTING USURPED TO MAKE
SOME OTHER POLITICAL POINT , AND
I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU SET
THOSE ASIDE FROM THIS AMENDMENT.
NOT HAVE THIS AMENDMENT BE
SOMETHING MORE THAN IT REALLY
IS. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. KETIL, CAN
YOU DISPLAY THE CORRECTED
VERSION OF THE AMENDMENT THAT IS
BEFORE US RIGHT NOW?
>> THE CLOSEST THING TO A
CORRECTED VERSION OF THE
AMENDMENT IS THE -- PROBABLY, IT
WOULD BE THIS. THIS IS THE
VERSION OF THE AMENDMENT AS
AMENDED .
>> OKAY. YOU KNOW, AS I SAID
BEFORE, THE PURPOSE OF THE
UNDERLYING LEGISLATION IS TO
STREAMLINE THINGS , TO MOVE
THINGS FORWARD, TO GET THINGS ON
TRACK. WHEN I SAW THE AMENDMENT
AND THE CORRECTED AMENDMENT, YOU
KNOW, I DID HAVE SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS FOR SOUND TRANSIT THAT
I DID ASK HIM DID GET AN ANSWER.
MY ASKED WAS, IS THIS GOING TO
SLOW YOU DOWN? CAN YOU LIVE WITH
THIS? THE ANSWER WAS YES. IN
THAT SPIRIT, UNDERSTANDING THAT
WE WANT TRANSPARENCY, WE WANT TO
SEE OUTREACH PLAN. I THINK ABOUT
THE OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE IN
CID REGARDING STATION ALIGNMENT
THERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE FEELING
THAT THEY WERE NOT HEARD. ASKING
FOR THEM TO -- ASKING FOR SOUND
TRANSIT TO SHOW US YOUR WORK,
SHOW US WHAT YOU'RE TALKING --
SHOW US WHO YOU TALKED TO AND
WHAT YOU ASKED SO WE HAVE A
SENSE OF THAT. AGAIN, MY SENSE
IS, FROM OUR PARTNERS, THEY ARE
OKAY WITH THAT. AGAIN, THEY'RE
ALREADY DOING IT. WE ARE JUST
ASKING THEM TO SHOW IT TO US.
DOESN'T SEEM TO BE UNDUE BURDEN
FOR THEM. WITH THAT, I WILL ASK
THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON
THE ADOPTION OF THE AMENDED
VERSION -- AMENDMENT 1 AS
CURRENTLY AMENDED .
>> VICE CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> ABSTAIN .
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RINCK .
>> ABSTAIN.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA.
>> CHAIR SOLOMON. THERE ARE
THREE VOTES IN FAVOR, ZERO
OPPOSED AND TWO ABSTENTIONS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH
THAT AMENDMENT, LET'S CALL THE
ROLL ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO
PASS COUNCIL BILL 120975.
>> VICE CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RINCK.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA.
>> RINCK -- TRAN50 .
>> --
>> THE MOTION CARRIED. THE
RECOGNITION TO PASS COUNCIL BILL
120975 AS AMENDED WILL BE SENT
TO THE JUNE 10
>> THE MOTION CARRIED. THE
RECOGNITION TO PASS COUNCIL BILL
120975 AS AMENDED WILL BE SENT
TO THE JUNE 10, 2025 COUNCIL
MEETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
EVERYBODY. THINK YOU FOR THE
VERY SPIRITED DEBATE. THANK YOU
ALL FOR HANGING IN THERE FOR IT.
LET ME DO -- THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE TODAY. GIVEN THE TIME, I'M
GOING TO DO IT QUICK TIME CHECK
TO SEE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A HARD
STOP AT 4:00 P.M.? YOU DO? OKAY.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS
GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF CRIME
PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL
DESIGN. I CAN GO THROUGH A
30,000 FOOT LEVEL SO THIS
COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS, AND THE
COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS, WHAT IT
IS WE ARE TRYING TO BRING FOR
THEM IN TERMS OF GETTING CRIME
PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL
DESIGN CLARIFIED IN SEATTLE.
WITH THAT, I JUST NEED A MINUTE
OR SO TO TRANSITION TO THE
PRESENTATION TABLE. DON'T KNOW
IF THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED
BEFORE.
IF YOU COULD PUT IT IN
PRESENTATION MODE. THANK YOU.
OKAY. I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF
ODD, BUT I AM GOING TO RUN
THROUGH , VERY QUICKLY, AN
OVERVIEW OF WHAT CRIME
PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL
DESIGN IS FOR THE PURPOSES OF
TRYING TO GET IT CODIFIED IN
SEATTLE. THE REASON I AM THE
PRESENTER IS BECAUSE OF MY
BACKGROUND. THE PUBLIC AND MY
COLLEAGUES MAY NOT EVEN KNOW
THIS, BUT YOU DO KNOW I UP IN A
35 YEAR , OR CLOSE TO 35 YEAR
CRIME PREVENTION CHLORINATOR
WITH SEATTLE PLEASE. I HAVE BEEN
A PRACTITIONER FOR ABOUT 25
YEARS, MAYBE LITTLE BIT MORE
THAN 25. I'VE ALSO BEEN A CPTED
INSTRUCTOR FOR WELL OVER 10
YEARS. CURRENTLY, AS PRESIDENT
OF THE WASHINGTON STATE CRIME
PREVENTION ASSOCIATION, I AM THE
PRIMARY CPTED INSTRUCTOR FOR
THAT ASSOCIATION . IN THE PAST
FEW YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
CERTIFY OVER 150 INDIVIDUALS
FROM MULTIPLE AGENCIES AS CPTED
TRAINED PROFESSIONALS. WITHOUT
BRAGGING, I WOULD SAY I AM
PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST
EXPERIENCED ACTIVE OED'S
PRACTITIONERS IN WASHINGTON
STATE. THE INTENT OF THIS
PRESENTATION WAS TO GO OVER SOME
DEFINITIONS OF CPTED SOME OF THE
ELEMENTS, HOW IT IS APPLIED ,
WHERE IT IS CODIFIED, AND HOW IT
COULD BE CODIFIED IN SEATTLE. I
WILL SKIP THE CRIME TRIANGLE.
ACTUALLY, YOU CAN GO BACK. WHEN
WE -- YOU KNOW, IN THE CRIME
TRIANGLE MODEL, WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT IS, IN ORDER FOR CRIME TO
OCCUR, YOU NEED THREE THINGS.
YOU NEED THE OFFENDER, A TARGET
OR VICTIM, AND A PLACE FOR THAT
CRIME TO OCCUR. NOW, WE MAY NOT
BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE
OFFENDERS MOTIVES ARE MEANS. WE
MAY NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO DO
ANYTHING ABOUT THE PERSON WHO
MAY BE THE VICTIM OF THAT CRIME.
BUT THROUGH CPTED, WE CAN IMPACT
THE PLACE TO MAKE CRIME LESS
LIKELY TO HAPPEN. THAT IS THE
WHOLE INTENT. CPTED IS DEFINED
AS THE PROPER DESIGN AND
EFFECTIVE USE OF THE BUILT
ENVIRONMENT THAT CAN LEAD TO A
REDUCTION IN FEAR AND THE
INCIDENCE OF CRIME AND
IMPROVEMENT IN THE QUALITY OF
LIFE. WHEN IT COMES RIGHT DOWN
TO IT, CPTED IS NOT ONLY LOOKING
AT THE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT, IT
IS LOOKING AT THE INTERACTION OF
PEOPLE, AND IT IS LOOKING AT HOW
WE INCREASE COMMUNITY, HOWEVER
YOU DEFINE THAT COMMUNITY. NOT
JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MAPLE
LEAF NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS
COMMUNITY, BUT WE COULD BE
TALKING ABOUT A SCHOOL
COMMUNITY. WE COULD BE TALKING
ABOUT A HEALTHCARE CAMPUS
COMMUNITY. WE COULD BE TALKING
ABOUT A RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY. SO
HOWEVER YOU ALL DEFINE
COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST
NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFIC, BUT HOW
DO PEOPLE, GROUPS, INTERACT WITH
EACH OTHER. IT REALLY IS A
MULTIDISCIPLINARY APPROACH. THE
GOAL REALLY IS TO REDUCE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR CRIME THAT MAY
BE INHERENT IN THE DESIGN OF THE
BUILT ENVIRONMENT. THE WAY WE
DESIGN OUR ENVIRONMENT CAN
ENCOURAGE BEHAVIORS, AS WELL AS
DISCOURAGE NEGATIVE BEHAVIORS.
THAT IS ONE OF OUR GOALS. I'M
SKIPPING THROUGH THESE BECAUSE
YOU ALL CAN READ. I WAS TOLD
LONG AGO IN THE AIR FORCE, I CAN
READ, DON'T BRIEF ME THE SLIDE.
WHEN WE LOOK AT CPTED, WE
CONSIDER WHAT WE CALL THE 3 D'S,
DESIGNATION, DEFINITION AND
DESIGN. BOTTOM LINE, ALL HUMAN
SPACE HAS SOME DESIGNATED
PURPOSE. WHAT IS THIS THING?
WHAT IS IT INTENDED TO BE? THERE
ARE DEFINITIONS OF THAT SPACE.
WHAT ARE THE BORDERS? WHO OWNS
IT? HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY WHO OWNS
IT? HOW DO IDENTIFY WHAT IS
ACCEPTABLE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT?
AND THEN, ALL HUMAN SPACES ARE
DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THAT
PURPOSE. SO HOW DO YOU BUILD THE
THING TO SUPPORT WHAT IT IS YOU
WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN AT THE
THING? SO CPTED, YOU KNOW, HAS
FIVE OVERLAPPING CONCEPTS.
NATURAL SURVEILLANCE, NATURAL
ACCESS CONTROL, TERRITORIAL
REINFORCEMENT, IMAGE AND
MAINTENANCE, AND SOCIAL
MANAGEMENT. NATURAL SURVEILLANCE
REALLY DOES COME DOWN TO , YOU
KNOW, INCREASING THE PERCEPTION
THAT PEOPLE CAN BE SEEN , AND
YOU DO THAT THROUGH THE
PLACEMENT OF DIFFERENT FEATURES.
THEY MAXIMIZE THIS ABILITY. FROM
A CRIME PREVENTION STANDPOINT,
IF YOU INCREASE THE POSSIBILITY
THAT THE CRIMINAL OFFENDER CAN
BE SEEN, YOU DO SEE THE
LIKELIHOOD THAT OFFENDER WILL
COMMIT THAT CRIME. SOME OF THE
DESIGN STRATEGIES FOR NATURAL
SURVEILLANCE ARE AVOIDING
LIGHTING THAT CREATES GLARE OR
SHADOWS, AVOIDING CONSTRUCTION
THAT PROVIDES FOR AMBUSH POINTS
OR AREAS OF CONCEALMENT, YOU SEE
EXAMPLES OF LANDSCAPING.
LANDSCAPING THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE
TO SEE THROUGHOUT THEIR
ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT INSTRUCTING
SHRUBBERY. EVEN STAIRWELL
DESIGN. BEING ABLE TO SEE
THROUGH STAIRWELLS, AS OPPOSED
TO HAVING SOLID STAIRWELLS THAT
ALLOW FOR SOMEONE TO TALK
UNDERNEATH THEM, LIKE IN MANY OF
THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS WHERE
YOU WALK INTO THE STAIRWELL AND
AT THE BOTTOM THERE IS SOMEBODY
CAMPED OUT . IT IS OBVIOUS THEY
HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
DESIGN STRATEGIES, INCLUDING
PLACING WINDOWS, OVERLOOKING
SIDEWALKS AND PARKING AREAS.
USING SHORT FENCING TO ALLOW FOR
NATURAL VISIBILITY. YOU KNOW,
INCREASING GLAZING AREAS . A LOT
OF THIS ALSO COMPLEMENTS SOME OF
THE LEAD BUILDING REQUIREMENTS.
AGAIN, ALLOWING IN MORE NATURAL
LIGHT AND MORE NATURAL
SURVEILLANCE. NATURAL ACCESS
CONTROL REALLY IS HOW PEOPLE ARE
GUIDED THROUGH A SPACE. THIS CAN
BE DONE THROUGH HOW YOU DESIGN
THE STREETS, THE WALKWAYS. IT
CAN BE DONE THROUGH LANDSCAPING
BY HAVING CLEARLY DEFINED
ENTRYWAYS, CONTROLLING OTHER
ACCESS POINTS. MAKING A CLEAR
WHERE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO
ENTER A SPACE. HAVING A
COMPREHENSIVE WAYFINDING SYSTEM.
AND WHILE THERE IS NATURAL
ACCESS CONTROL, THERE ARE ALSO
ORGANIZED MECHANICAL ACCESS
CONTROL . WE WILL SEE A COUPLE
OF THOSE EXAMPLES HERE. FOR
EXAMPLE, YOU SEE THE KEY CARD.
THAT IS A NATURAL EXAMPLE OF
ACCESS CONTROL. THIS ALLOWS FOR
PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, BUT DOESN'T
ALLOW FOR THE VEHICLES TO
INTRUDE. TURNSTILES, FENCES.
THESE ARE ALL MEASURES OR
EXAMPLES OF ACCESS CONTROL. WHEN
WE THINK ABOUT ACCESS CONTROL,
WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT
TARGET HARDENING. IT IS FOCUSING
ON PREVENTING ENTRY OR ACCESS.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE
DON'T HAVE EXCESSIVE TARGET
HARDENING . LIKE BARS ON WINDOWS
MAY SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE. WHEN
I WALKED DOWN THE STREET IS THE
PLACE WITH BARS ON THE WINDOWS,
IT DOESN'T EXACTLY INVITE ME TO
WANT TO GO INTO THAT BUSINESS.
SO HOW ELSE CAN WE HARDEN THAT
TARGET ? -- WITHOUT IT CREATING
THAT FORTRESS EFFECT? SOMETHING
AS SIMPLE THAT YOU MAY NOT EVEN
THINK ABOUT IN YOUR OWN HOMES.
THE MOST PORTABLE PART OF YOUR
FRONT DOOR IS NOT THE LOCKING
MECHANISM, IT IS THE DOORJAMB.
WHEN A DOOR IS FORCED OPEN, IT
IS THE JAM THAT GIVES, NOT THE
LOCK. BUT YOU CAN STRENGTHEN
YOUR DOOR JUST BY INSTALLING
LONGER SCREWS IN THE STRIKE
PLATES WHERE THE LOCK GOES. BY
HAVING THOSE SCREWS EMBED INTO
THE STUDS SURROUNDING THE DOOR,
AND MAKES IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT
TO FORCE OPEN A PROPERLY LOCKED
DOOR. THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF
TARGET HARDENING. SOME OF THE
OTHER EXAMPLES YOU CAN SEE HERE,
HAVING A FULL LENGTH ASTRAGAL ON
AN OUTWARD OPENING DOOR TO
PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM PUTTING A
PRYBAR IN THERE. THERE IS A
COFFEE SHOP IN GEORGETOWN THAT
WAS HAVING AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE
BREAKING THEIR WINDOWS TO GAIN
ENTRY. SO THEY MADE DECORATIVE
GIRL WORK THAT LOOKS LIKE THEIR
LOGO THAT THEY PLACED ON THE
WINDOW . YOU CAN STILL USE THE
WINDOW AND GET THE VENTILATION,
BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE USED
AS AN ENTRY POINT. THERE IS A
PRODUCT CALLED SECURITY FILM
THAT, WHILE WITH THIS FILM
APPLIED, IF SOMEONE TRIES TO
BREAK THROUGH THAT WINDOW, THE
GLASS MAY SHATTER, BUT THE FILM
HOLDS IT IN PLACE. THIS IS
ACTUALLY A BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO
BARS ON WINDOWS. IT IS NOT AS
OBVIOUS AND STILL ACCOMPLISHES
THE SAME THING. TERRITORIAL
REINFORCEMENT REALLY COMES DOWN
TO THE ISSUE OF WHO OWNS THE
SPACE. WHAT ARE THE RULES OF
CONDUCT? HOW DO YOU DEFINE THAT
TERRITORY? THIS COULD BE DONE
WITH SIGNAGE, DESIGN ELEMENTS
AND HELPS DEFINE THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN PUBLIC, SEMIPUBLIC,
SEMIPRIVATE AND PRIVATE SPACE.
LIGHTING , FENCING, PLANTER
BOXES. ALL OF THOSE ARE EXAMPLES
OF TERRITORIAL REINFORCEMENT.
AGAIN, WHERE IS IT OKAY FOR
PEOPLE TO BE FOR THE PUBLIC, AND
THEN, OH, THIS IS DIFFERENT. YOU
KNOW. THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN,
IT'S OKAY TO BE HERE, BUT NOT
NECESSARILY HERE WITHOUT
PERMISSION. SO AGAIN, SOME OF
THESE MEASURES CAN BE USED TO --
IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER.
BOLLARDS AND PLANTER BOXES CAN
BE A TERRITORIAL REINFORCEMENT
MEASURE, AS WELL AS AN ACCESS
CONTROL MEASURE. THE EXAMPLE OF
CLUTCH CANNABIS. THEY HAD
SOMEBODY DRIVE A FRONT LOADER
THROUGH THE FOR WINDOW A FEW
YEARS BACK. FIRST QUESTION I
HAVE IS, WHERE DID THEY GET THE
FRONT LOADER TO DRIVE THROUGH
THE PLACE? AND BY THE WAY, THE
GOT $100 OF THE ATM AND ABOUT
$1000 WORTH OF PRODUCT. THIS WAS
THREE YEARS AGO. THIS IS JUST A
FEW WEEKS AGO. THEY PUT UP
BOLLARDS . THEY STILL HAVEN'T
REPLACED THE WINDOW. I DON'T
KNOW WHY. SUPPLY CHAIN. I DON'T
KNOW. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF
SEATTLE CANNABIS COMPANY . THEY
ALSO HAD A VEHICLE INTRUSION.
SOMEONE JUST PLOWED THROUGH THE
PLACE AND STOLE A BUNCH OF
PRODUCT. WHAT YOU SEE HERE ,
AFTER THAT HAPPENED, AND WHILE
THEY ARE DOING THE REPAIR, THEY
DID PUT UP BOLLARDS. YOU CAN SEE
NOW, AGAIN, A FEW WEEKS AGO .
THEY STILL HAVE THE BOLLARDS BUT
REPLACED THE STOREFRONT. LOOKS
MUCH NICER. AGAIN, THEY'VE
TAKEN THOSE MEASURES TO PREVENT
THOSE VEHICLE INCURSIONS. I HAVE
WORKED WITH A LOT OF BUSINESSES
IN THE PAST THAT HAVE HAD
VEHICLES DRIVE THROUGH THEIR
STOREFRONTS TO COMMIT THOSE
BURGLARIES. MAINTENANCE. IT
REALLY DOES GET DOWN TO A SENSE
OF, SOMEBODY CARES ABOUT THIS
PROPERTY. IT GIVES THE
IMPRESSION OF OWNERSHIP. IT
ALLOWS FOR THE CONTINUATION OF
THAT SPACE FOR ITS INTENDED
PURPOSE. THIS IS WHERE
LANDSCAPING COMES IN. THIS IS
WHERE WE TALK ABOUT , WE HAVE
THE TWO FOOT SIX FOOT OR TWO
FOOT EIGHT FOOT RULE. TREE
CANOPIES NO LOWER THAN SIX FEET
OR EIGHT FEET. YOU WANT THAT SO
THAT, AT PEDESTRIAN SCALE, YOU
CAN SEE COMPLETELY AROUND YOU.
YOU HAVE GOOD LIGHT OF SIGHT AND
VISIBILITY. THE EXAMPLE LISTED
HERE, SHOWN HERE, BASICALLY,
WHAT WAS DONE WAS TRIMMING OF
EDUCATION -- VEGETATION. NOW
NEIGHBORS HAVE A BETTER
OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IS
HAPPENING ON THAT PORCH. THE
VEGETATION IS TRIMMED DOWN
ENOUGH SO THAT SOMEONE WITH
HOSTILE INTENT DOES NOT HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON A DOOR OR
WINDOW WITHOUT GETTING SEEN.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE. ALSO, IT
ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE INSIDE THE
HOME TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON
OUTSIDE BETTER BECAUSE THEY HAVE
BETTER LINE OF SIGHT. HERE ARE
SOME EXAMPLES OF, AGAIN, SOME
GOOD MAINTENANCE . YOU SEE ON
THE LEFT . ON THE RIGHT-HAND
SIDE OF THE SCREEN, BEFORE CPTED
PERMITS, SOME VEGETATION
MAINTENANCE . THE BOTTOM PICTURE
SHOWS YOU AFTER THEY MADE THE
CHANGES AND HOW THAT OPENS UP
THE LINE OF SIGHT AND PROVIDES
BETTER VISIBILITY IN AND OUT OF
THE PROPERTY. AGAIN, EXAMPLES OF
GOOD MAINTENANCE . YOU HAVE THE
EXAMPLE OF LAWNS MAINTAINED,
VEGETATION LOW, TREE LIMBS HIGH.
LOOKING AT THE BUS SHELTER.
THERE'S NO GRAFFITI, NO TRASH.
WE HAVE SOLAR LIGHTS. IT LOOKS
REALLY GOOD. AND SOME EXAMPLES
OF NOT SO GOOD. I DON'T EVEN
KNOW HOW YOU GET THOSE
STREETLIGHTS TO DO SOMETHING
LIKE THAT, BUT THESE ARE REAL
EXAMPLES. LOOKING AT THE
VEGETATION ON THE RIGHT-HAND
SIDE . ANYBODY FEEL COMFORTABLE
WALKING THROUGH THAT? PROBABLY
NOT. I WOULD SAY TO TRIM THAT
BACK BUT WHEN YOU HAVE EXAMPLES
OF DOORS BEING PRIED OPEN, THAT
SENDS A MESSAGE THAT NO ONE
REALLY CARES TO TAKE THE TIME TO
MAKE THOSE REPAIRS. SAME THING
WITH THE SIGN THAT IS MARKED UP
WITH GRAFFITI. IT SENDS A
MESSAGE THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT
THIS ENVIRONMENT. AGAIN, SOME
OTHER EXAMPLES OF SOME SLIGHT
CHANGES. ON THE TOP, JUST ADDING
LIGHTING. MAKING SURE THE
LIGHTING IS ADEQUATE. ON THE
BOTTOM, AN EXAMPLE OF JUST DOING
SOME VEGETATION MAINTENANCE WITH
BETTER VISIBILITY INTO THE
PARKING LOT. IF ANYONE IS INTENT
ON COMMITTING A CAR PROWL, THEY
WILL BE SEEN BY SOMEBODY. NOW,
SOCIAL MANAGEMENT. THE FIRST
FOUR ARE SET TO FOCUS ON THE
PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT. SOCIAL
MANAGEMENT REALLY FOCUSES ON
HUMAN INTERACTION. THE
CONNECTIVITY WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT. THAT COMMUNITY. BRINGING
PEOPLE TOGETHER. WE HAVE TO
CONSIDER THAT HUMAN ELEMENT AND
HOW PEOPLE INTERACT IN THAT
SPACE. SO THERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF
-- IT WAS DONE YEARS AGO WHERE
HE WORKED WITH THE PARKS
DEPARTMENT , CITY LIGHT IN THE
SURROUNDING COMMUNITY TO MAKE
IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT PARK. IT
HAD BEEN OVERTAKEN BY A NEGATIVE
ELEMENT. SO BY MAKING SOME
VEGETATION MAINTENANCE
IMPROVEMENTS, BY MAKING SOME
LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS , BY DOING
SOME ENFORCEMENT ON THE PART OF
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BY
INVITING IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY
, THE CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET
TO SPONSOR SOME FAMILY-FRIENDLY
ACTIVITIES IN THE PARK, WE SAW A
CHANGE IN WHO WAS USING THAT
SPACE . FROM THE WORK THAT WAS
DONE YEARS AGO, I WOULD SAY IT
HAS CULMINATED IN WHAT WE SEE
TODAY WITH THE INTERNATIONAL
FESTIVAL THAT HAPPENS EVERY
AUGUST. THIS YEAR IT IS AUGUST
10. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FROM
AROUND THE REGION COME TO THIS
PARK . IT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF
HOW THE COMMUNITY CAN WORK
TOGETHER TO ACTIVATE A A
POSITIVE ACTIVITY. THAT IS A
WHOLE PURPOSE. CAN WE CHANGE THE
ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE IT
ATTRACTIVE FOR FAMILIES AND
POSITIVE USERS? THAT IS OUR
GOAL. THIS SLIDE WRAPS IT UP
HAVING LARGE WINDOWS PROMOTES
NATURAL SURVEILLANCE, PORCHES
AND SIDEWALKS CAN PROMOTE SOCIAL
INTERACTION BETWEEN NEIGHBORS ,
ARCHITECTURE OR FENCING THAT IS
LOW ALLOWS FOR VISIBILITY AND
PROVIDES VISIBLE OBSTRUCTIONS,
VEGETATION THAT IS LOW ENOUGH SO
THAT YOU CAN SEE OVER IT , AND
TREE LIMBS HIGH ENOUGH SO THERE
IS NO OBSTRUCTIONS IN THAT WAY.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
MAJOR BENEFITS OF CPTED,
REDUCTION IN CRIME, REDUCTION OF
POTENTIAL OF CRIME, PEOPLE FEEL
SAFER IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT
LOOKS ATTRACTIVE. PEOPLE ARE
USING IT . YOU HAVE GOT MORE
POSITIVE USER GROUPS, AND YOU
WILL ATTRACT MORE POSITIVE USER
GROUPS. IF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL
SAFE, THEY WILL ACT THAT WAY,
AND THEN WHO IS USING THAT
ENVIRONMENT? YOU CAN ALSO
INCREASE THE LEVEL OF ECONOMIC
ACTIVITY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. I
HAVE SEEN THIS , ESPECIALLY IN
COLUMBIA CITY, OVER THE YEARS IN
THE WORK I HAVE DONE. ALSO, IT
CAN HELP LOWER COSTS. IF WE CAN
DESIGN SOMETHING SO YOU DON'T
HAVE AS MANY DOORS, YOU DON'T
NEED AS MANY LIGHTS, YOU DON'T
NEED AS MANY SECURITY CAMERAS,
YOU DON'T NEED AS MANY SECURITY
GUARDS, YOU'RE ACTUALLY
REDUCING THE COST OF THE
PROJECT. YOU ARE ALSO REDUCING
THE AMOUNT OF EMERGENCY
RESPONDERS OR LAW ENFORCEMENT
RESPONDERS WHO HAVE TO AN
ENVIRONMENT IF YOU CAN DESIGN A
PROPERTY TO REDUCE THE POTENTIAL
FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. SOME OF
THE OBSTACLES OF ADOPTING CPTED.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT
IT IS. A LOT OF ARCHITECTS
DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. MANY
TIMES THE ARCHITECTURAL VISION
CONFLICTS WITH ME AS A CPTED
PROTECTION OR IN TERMS OF SAFETY
AND SECURITY. WE NEED --
INCREASINGLY, MORE AND MORE
ARCHITECTS ARE INCORPORATING 3
D'S AND SECURITY INTO BUILDING
DESIGNS. A LOT OF EXISTING
BUILDINGS WERE NOT DESIGNED WITH
CPTED PRINCIPLES IN MIND. A LOT
OF WHAT -- WHAT I HAVE HAD A
CHANCE TO REVIEW IS FROM THAT
STANDPOINT. IS LIKE, OH, WE HAVE
THIS PROBLEM. WELL, PART OF IT
IS BASED ON THE WAY YOU DESIGNED
THE THING. MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO
GET IN ON THE DESIGN PHASE.
HOPEFULLY, IN THE BELOW 60%
DESIGN PHASE, SO THE CHANGES IN
RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN MAKE
ACTUALLY PENCIL OUT FOR
SOMEBODY. BY THE TIME WE GET TO
THE 80% DESIGN PHASE, IT IS TOO
LATE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
RESISTANCE TO CHANGE . I CAN'T
TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE
MADE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE
PEOPLE I MADE THE
RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO, WE ARE
GOOD. THAT IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE.
THERE'S ALSO THIS PERCEPTION
THAT 3 D'S IS A FIX ALL FOR
EVERYTHING. IT IS NOT. IT IS A
TOOL. IS A TOOL IN A TOOLBOX.
BUT IT IS A USEFUL TOOL. IS NOT
GOING TO SOLVE ALL YOUR PROBLEMS
, BUT IT CAN BE VERY HELPFUL. I
HAVE TWO MINUTES.
>> I HAVE MY HAND RAISED. NUMBER
ONE, I NEED TO -- YOU GOT
THROUGH 33 SLIDES IN 15 MINUTES.
I HAVE A RULE IN MY COMMITTEE
THAT PRESENTERS AREN'T ALLOWED
TO BRING MORE THAN 15 SLIDES
TOTAL. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DID
THAT. AS I HAVE REVIEWED YOUR
SLIDE DECK, I NOTICED WE ARE AT
A BIT OF A TRANSITION POINT
WHERE WE ARE ABOUT TO START
TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS
SPECIFICALLY. CAN YOU BRING THIS
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE? I AM
INTERESTED . MY COMMENTS ARE
ACTUALLY ON THE SLIDE. I AM A
CARD-CARRYING MEMBER OF THE I
LOVE ARCHITECTS CLUB. ARCHITECTS
SOMETIMES DESIGN THINGS THEY
BELIEVE TO BE BEAUTIFUL THAT, IN
FACT, ONE OF FOUL OF CPTED
PRINCIPLES. I HAVE SEEN IT ALL
OVER THE PLACE. THE ONLY WAY TO
GET COMPLIANCE THERE EMMA BEYOND
EDUCATION, IS CODE REQUIREMENT.
AND SO, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO
A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW WE
CAN PUT SOME OF THESE THINGS
INTO CODE, BECAUSE I KNOW, JUST
FROM THE LAND-USE PROCESS, THAT
PROCESS WILL EXTEND FOR MANY,
MANY MONTHS. YOUR KNOWLEDGE
HERE, I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN VERY
INFORMATIVE. I AM REQUESTING TO
FINISH THE SLIDE DECK AT A
FUTURE MEETING.
>> YES. BE RESPECTFUL OF
EVERYONE'S TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE
JUST ABOUT OUT TIME -- AT TIME,
I WANTED TO TAKE TIME TO AT
LEAST INTRODUCE THIS. THIS IS
NOT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING . I AM
HAPPY TO ADD TO THE NEXT
LAND-USE COMMITTEE MEETING TO
JUMP INTO THE NEXT PHASES, WHICH
WILL GO INTO SPECIFIC EXAMPLES
OF WHAT I HAVE DONE, WHAT I HAVE
REVIEWED , AND WHAT I HAVE GONE
BACK TO THOSE DEVELOPERS WITH,
AS WELL AS WHERE, BUT OTHER
MUNICIPALITIES HAVE IN CODE, AND
HOW WE CAN ADOPT IT IN CODE TO
MAKE SENSE FOR SEATTLE. IF THE
COMMITTEE IS ACCEPTABLE OR
AMENABLE TO THAT, I'M SEEING
THUMBS-UP. WE ARE GOOD? OKAY. I
WILL CLOSE THE PRESENTATION DOWN
AT THIS TIME. I WILL REJOIN THE
DAIS TO CONTINUE TO FACILITATE
THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. AS WAS
MENTIONED, THIS IS JUST THE
AROUND TRINITY 11. WE WILL
CONTINUE THIS AT OUR NEXT
COMMITTEE THE NEXT COMMITTEE IS
SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 18, I BELIEVE
AT 2:00 P.M. WE HAVE REACHED THE
END OF OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY. ARE
THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO
COME
WE WILL BE ADJOURNED AT
4:01 P.M. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
EVERYONE. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
AND ATTENTION. ENJOY THE REST OF
YOUR DAY.
>> THANK YOU.