LAND USE COMMITTEE. WILL THE
COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ?
>> VICE CHAIR STRAUSS?
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MERCEDES RINCK?
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA?
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR SOLOMON?
>> HERE.
>> THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS
PRESENT.
>> ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT -- ALSO,
I WANTED TO NOTE THAT
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE IS EXCUSED
FROM TODAY'S MEETING . IF THERE
IS NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL
BE ADOPTED. HEARING NONE, THE
AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THANK YOU ALL
VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT THIS
AFTERNOON TO DISCUSS LAND USE.
AS ALWAYS, I WANT TO THANK
CENTRAL STAFF, OUR CITY CLERK,
MY STAFF AND THANK YOU FOR
TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO
COME HERE TODAY.
>> ON THE AGENDA TODAY, WE DO
HAVE TWO ITEMS WE HAVE SOME
APPOINTMENTS THAT WE ARE GOING
TO BE MAKING AND THEN WE ARE
GOING TO CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION
ON CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH
ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN AND THE
ATTEMPT TO GET THAT CODIFIED
WITHIN THE CITY OF SEATTLE. BUT,
WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE HYBRID
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. SO,
PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD RELATE TO
ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AND
ITEMS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS
COMMITTEE. PLEASE.
>> CLERK, HOW MANY SPEAKERS WE
HAVE SIGNED UP TODAY?
>> WE HAVE TWO IN PERSON
SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND CURRENTLY
ONE REMOTE SPEAKER.
>> VERY GOOD. EACH SPEAKER WILL
HAVE TWO MINUTES. CLERK, PLEASE
READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.
>> WE MODERATE IN THE FOLLOWING
MANNER. THE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD IS UP TO 20 MINUTES.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN WHICC
COMMENT PERIOD HAS ENDED.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A TIME WHEN
10 SECONDS ARE LEFT ON THEIR
TIME. SPEAKERS MICROPHONES WILL
BE MUTED IF YOU DO NOT AND
COMMENTING ON THE ALLOTTED TIME.
THIS WILL ALLOW US TO CALL IN
THE NEXT SPEAKER. PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD IS NOT OPEN. WE CAN NOW
INTRODUCE THE FIRST SPEAKER ON
THE LIST. TWO MINUTES.
>> ONE SECOND. ONE SECOND. LET
US GET THE CLOCK SET FOR YOU.
>> I LIVE HERE FOR 40 YEARS. I
SPEAK IN COUNCIL CHAMBER 5000
TIMES. I HAVE 6000 DAY OF
TRESPASS AND YOU PERSECUTE ME
FIVE TIMES. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY
I AM TALKING RIGHT NOW ABOUT
ENVIRONMENT. MY PROPOSITION
RIGHT NOW IS HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT
THIS MEANS? 100 PERCENTAGE BS,
50 PAGES WHEN WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT HOW WE CAN STOP CRIME. I
HAVE A SIMPLE PROPOSITION. I
PROPOSE YOU GIVE TESLA. TESLA IS
GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. TO
EVERY POTENTIAL CRIMINAL. GIVE
ME A TESLA. MAYBE YOU NOT
PROSECUTE ME NUMBER SIX. YOU ARE
BUNCH OF -- I TALKING ABOUT THIS
ROOM EMPTY. ICON LAST WEEK AND
NOBODY CARE. EXACTLY HAPPEN
RIGHT NOW. WHY? BECAUSE FOR FIVE
YEAR WE HAVE COME FROM NUMBER
ONE TO NUMBER 10. WE HAVE FALLEN
DOWN. SYSTEM COLLAPSE. IT CANNOT
BE FOREVER. WE CLEANSE THIS
DIRTY CHAMBER TOTALLY. FULL
INTENT, DOWN 100 PERCENTAGE
COLLAPSE OF ALL -- VIVA TRUMP,
VIVA NEW AMERICA. GIVE ME. GIVE
ME TESLA. I WILL BE GOOD BOY.
>> MOVING ONTO THE NEXT SPEAKER,
STEVE.
>> BEFORE YOU DO BEGIN YOUR
REMARKS, I DID WANT TO REFLECT
FOR THE RECORD THAT
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK HAS JOINED
US.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS ON YOUR
AGENDA TODAY IS TO APPOINT TO
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I
USED TO BE A MUCH BIGGER JOB
THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. IN YOUR
AND EVALUATING OF CITIZENS AND
KEEPING US OUT OF THE PROCESS
BECAUSE, LORD KNOWS, WE WOULD
ONLY MUCK IT UP AND COST
DEVELOPERS MONEY, WHICH WE ALL
KNOW IS A MORTAL SIN IN SEATTLE.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REMEMBER
THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL
THAT BROUGHT URBAN VILLAGES INTO
SEATTLE. WHAT WE HAD WAS A LOOK
AT EACH DEVELOPMENT AND TO SEE
HOW IT FIT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW, WE DON'T CARE HOW IT IT'S
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE
GOING TO PUT IT IN AND MAYBE
THAT AFFECTS THE LIVABILITY IN
THE CITY OF SEATTLE. NOW, I
DON'T MAKE OVER 100,000 A YEAR
SO YOU WOULD BE JUST AS HAPPY TO
SEE ME GONE ANYWAY BUT I DON'T
INTEND TO LEAVE AS OF YET. I
KNOW MANY WHO HAVE BUT I THINK
WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT
BUILDING THE SEATTLE THAT WE
WANT TO LIVE IN AND I DON'T
THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE A SLAVE
TO THE AGENDA OF THE DEVELOPMENT
COMMUNITY.DECIDED
THAT TREES WOULD HAVE TO GO --
WE USED TO HAVE DIVERSITY IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW WE HAVE THESE
BOXES THAT YOU ARE PUTTING DOWN
THAT DON'T REQUIRE VERY MUCH
ENGINEERING BECAUSE IT IS ALL
PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING. IT
HAS BEEN ENGINEERED. TREES ARE
NOT IMPORTANT. NOW, ON THE NORTH
END, WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF
TREES MUCH MORE THAN THE SOUTH
END BUT YOU ARE EQUALIZING
BECAUSE YOU ARE DESTROYING THE
TREES THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE AND THAT IS ONE OF THE
PROBLEMS I SEE OF NOT CARING
ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK IN THE
CITY. PEOPLE DIDN'T USED TO
WANT TO BE ON THE LAND USE
COMMITTEE AND THERE WAS A GOOD
REASON.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MOVING ON TO OUR TWO VIRTUAL
SPEAKERS. WE WILL BE STARTING
WITH ERIN BROWN.
>> WHEN YOU ARE READY, HIT *6 .
>> MY NAME IS AARON ANNE BROWN
AND I AM RESIDENT OF ANCHOR PART
1155 DEXTER AVENUE NORTH AND
I'M HERE TO URGE THIS COMMITTEE
TO INTERVENE DIRECTLY WITH
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF CODES AND
INSPECTIONS AND HOLD THE
PERMITTING PROCESS RELATED TO
BELLWETHERS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
OF MASTERY'S PERMIT 301 680
WHICH WOULD REMOVE THE
REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE TENANT
PARKING. THIS REQUIREMENT IS NOT
ARBITRARY. IT WAS A CONDITION OF
THE 2016 CONTRACT REASON THAT
ALLOWED THE PROJECT TO BE BUILT.
UNDER THE REZONE AGREEMENT,
BELLWETHER IS OBLIGATED TO
PROVIDE 26 TENANT PARKING
STALLS, TWO ADA ACCESSIBLE
PLACES, ONE CAR SPOT AND THESE
WERE CONDITIONS AGREED TO IN
EXCHANGE FOR ZONING AND HER SMC
23.34.004 . THOSE OBLIGATIONS
ARE TO BE MAINTAINED IN
PERPETUITY. INSTEAD, BELLWETHER
HAS ACTED IN WILLFUL VIOLATION
OF THESE TERMS IN DECEMBER 2024.
MY PARKING WAS STRIPPED WITHOUT
NOTICE OF JUSTIFICATION.
BELLWETHER THEN CREATED A
WAITLIST, A MASSIVE REALLOCATION
TENANT CALLS PLACING THE IS
NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST BUT
REFUSED TO OFFER ME A SPACE
DESPITE REPEATED -- REPEATED
REQUEST AND VISIBLE BILLABILITY.
MANY COMPLAINTS WERE IGNORED AND
IT WAS NOT UNTIL APRIL 30 25
THAT THEY WERE FINALLY ISSUED A
NOTICE TO COMPLY WITH PARKING
OBLIGATIONS. LESS THAN TWO WEEKS
LATER, BELLWETHER FILED A
REQUEST TO AMEND THEIR NU P TO
ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT
ALTOGETHER, RETROACTIVELY
EXCUSING THEIR NONCOMPLIANCE.
THIS IS AN EGREGIOUS ABUSE OF
THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND AN
ATTEMPT TO SUMMERS SEATTLE LAND
USE CODE AND DISENFRANCHISED
TENANTS, LOW INCOME TENANTS WHO
DEPEND ON THAT PARKING ACCESS
FOR BASIC MOBILITY AND SAFETY. I
ALSO SUBMITTED A REASONABLE
ACCOMMODATION WHICH WAS IGNORED
AND ADDING INSULT TO INJURY,
BELLWETHER NEVER INFORMED
TENANTS OF THEIR ATTEMPT TO
AMEND EVEN THOUGH IT DIRECTLY
IMPACTS OUR ACCESSIBILITY,
SAFETY AND RIGHTS. THE LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY -- IT IS NOT A GOOD
FAITH REQUEST. IT IS AFTER THE
PRACTICE. I AM ASKING THIS
COMMITTEE TO FORMALLY REQUEST
STANDARDS AND DENY THE
APPLICATION ON THE GROUNDS OF AN
ACTIVE VIOLATION OF TENANT HARM.
>> THANK YOU. OUR FINAL SPEAKER
FOR TODAY WILL BE DAVID HAYNES.
>> DAVID HAYNES. THE
PRESENTATION ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL
DESIGN IS PROOF THAT WE NEED TO
TEAR DOWN PIONEER SQUARE IN
CHINATOWN AND REBUILD A
21ST-CENTURY FIRST WORLD QUALITY
ADVANCED INTERPRETATION
PEDESTRIAN CENTRIC RESIDENT
FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD. NOT ON
THE SIDE OF THE DRIVE-BY
ROADWAYS AND PREDATORY
CONVENIENT NEIGHBORHOODS FOR
EVIL CRIMINALS TO HIDE WITHIN
THE SLUMS THAT CONDUCT THEIR
UNCIVIL WAR ON COMMUNITY WITH
IMPUNITY WHILE RELYING ON
CRIMINAL NIGHTCLUBS , OVER
SERVING BARTENDERS GIVEN A PASS
BECAUSE THEY GENERATE TAX
DOLLARS, SHORTCHANGING
COMMUNITY, LEAVING EVERYBODY
VULNERABLE, PROPPING UP SLUM
REAL ESTATE AS RESIDENTS ARE IN
DANGER AS CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO
FOCUS MORE ON ENVIRONMENTAL
DESIGN AND SIDEWALKS AS THEIR
AGENDA ON PUBLIC SAFETY WHILE
REALLY NOT ADDRESSING THE ROOT
PROBLEMS OF CRIME, THE ACTUAL
CRIMINALS. INNOCENCE HAS NO
PRIVACY. IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE SO
MANY LANDLORDS ON THE CITY
COUNCIL SABOTAGING THE
CONFERENCE A PLAN AND ALLOWING
FOR A LAND ABUSE THAT FORCES
EVERYBODY INTO THE SAME RUNDOWN
REAL ESTATE ON THE SIDE OF THE
ROAD THAT CREATES A NEED FOR ALL
OF THIS TAX WORK FIXED
PERCEPTION OF SAFETY, WE CAN
HAVE A 21st CENTURY FIRST WORLD
QUALITY REDEVELOPMENT OF HOMES
AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT
PROVIDE ROBUST FLOOR PLANS FOR
THE NEIGHBORHOOD. INSTEAD, WE
HAVE ALL OF THIS MODERN THIRD
WORLD RUNDOWN RENTALS AND DOUBLE
AND TRIPLE MORTGAGES THAT ARE
OPPRESSING THE SMALL BUSINESSES
AND THE WORKERS THAT ARE FORCED
TO WORK ON THE SIDE OF THE
POLLUTED ROAD AND YET, I NEVER
HEAR ALL OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE A
CONFLICT OF INTEREST EVERY TIME
THEY START THE HOUSING, THE
HOMELESS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND
THE LANDLORD-TENANT ISSUES AND
EVEN THE ETHICS ISSUES. YOU ALL
ARE SIGNALING WHENEVER YOU CAN
MANIPULATE THE MEDIA TO SEEM
LIKE YOU ARE IMPROVING YOUR SELF
FROM CERTAIN CONSIDERATIONS ON
RENTAL AND IT IS OFFENSIVE. YOU
WILL NEED LEGISLATION TO
PRIORITIZE FINANCING NEW HOMES
AND BUILDINGS.
>> THANK YOU, DAVID. COUNCIL
MEMBERS, THAT WAS OUR LAST
SPEAKER.
>> AS THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER,
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW
CLOSED. WE WILL NOW MOON TO
THE FIRST ITEM OFOUR BUSINESS.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEMS
ONE THROUGH THREE INTO THE
AGENDA?
>> AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH
THREE, APPOINTMENT 03186 THROUGH
03188, THE REAPPOINTMENT AND
APPOINTMENT OF McCAELA DAFFERN,
REBECCA BRUNN AND JULIA
JANNON-SHIELDS AS MEMBERS OF THE
SEATTLE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR
A TERM OF APRIL 15, 2028, FOR
BREAKING, DISCUSSION, AND
POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU. IC OUR PRESENTERS
ARE COMING UP TO THE TABLE. WHEN
YOU ARE READY, PLEASE INTRODUCE
YOURSELVES FOR THE RECORD AND
YOU MAY BEGIN.
>> AM I LIVE? THANK YOU SO MUCH
CHAIR SOLOMON AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS VANESSA
MURDOCK AND I AM THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE SEATTLE SCIENCE
MISSION. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE
OURSELVES HERE TODAY AND THE
APPOINTEES RECOMMENDED. I WILL
TURN TO THEM IN JUST A MOMENT. I
DO WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SYNOPSIS
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE
PLANNING COMMISSION IS A 16
MEMBER INDEPENDENT VOLUNTEER
BODY THAT IS APPOINTED BY THIS
BODY, THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR,
AND THE COMMISSION ITSELF WITH
ALL APPOINTMENTS BEING SUBJECT
TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL. THE COMMISSION ADVISES
THIS BODY, THE MAYOR, AND CITY
STAFF ON ISSUES RELATED TO LAND
USE, HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION,
AND LIVABILITY. IN THE PAST FEW
YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN VERY
INVOLVED IN FOLLOWING THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE ONE SEATTLE
PLAN AND WE ARE CAREFULLY
FOLLOWING THE DELIBERATIONS OF
THIS BODY AS YOU CONSIDER THAT
PLAN AND THE ASSOCIATED
LEGISLATION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE
HEARING ON MONDAY AND AGAIN, WE
ARE FOLLOWING THE DELIBERATIONS
VERY CLOSELY. WITH THAT, I WOULD
LIKE TO TURN IT TO REBECCA BRUNN
TO INTRODUCE HERSELF AND THEN
FOLLOWING THAT WILL BE JULIA.
>> HELLO. I AM LIVE. GREAT. THAT
AFTERNOON, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME
IS REBECCA BRUNN. I USE SHE/HER
PRONOUNS, I AM A RENTER IN
DISTRICT 6 AND I AM DELIGHTED TO
BE HERE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE
PLANNING COMMISSION. IN MY DAY
JOB, I AM A SENIOR PROJECT
MANAGER FOR TRANSIT ORIENTED
DEVELOPMENT, OUTBOUND TRANSIT I
MANAGE A PORTFOLIO OF AGENCY
OWNED SURPLUS PROPERTIES ON
THEIR JOURNEY TOWARD
REDEVELOPMENT AS AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. I HAVE PROJECTS ALL
OVER THE CITY AND BEYOND AND
THEY INCLUDE AFFORDABLE
MULTIFAMILY RENTAL PROJECTS AND
EMINENTLY AFFORDABLE PROJECTS. I
HAVE SEEN FIRST-HAND ALL OF THE
JOYS AND FRUSTRATIONS OF HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND BEYOND
THAT, SEEN HOW IMPORTANT IT IS
THAT WE REALLY CAPITALIZE ON
THESE GENERATIONAL DEVELOPMENTS
ON TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE TO
BUILD OUT AREAS AND HELP OUT
HOUSEHOLDS OF ALL SHAPES AND
SIZES TO AFFORD THE MOBILITY
THAT IS REQUIRED TO FULLY
PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY. I WAS
REALLY INSPIRED TO APPLY TO THE
COMMISSION BECAUSE I THINK THAT
THE PORTABILITY AND MOBILITY
SHOULD BE EXTENDED TO EVERYBODY
IN THE CITY NO MATTER WHERE THEY
LIVE, STATIONARY OR NOT AND THAT
LAND USE POLICIES TEND
THEMSELVES TO GENERATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES TO OFFER THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO
TRULY PARTICIPATE AND BE IN
CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY THAT
THEY LIVE IN. THANK YOU AGAIN
FOR HAVING ME. I AM REALLY
EXCITED TO GET TO WORK, PENDING
APPROVAL. THANK YOU AGAIN.
>> THANK YOU, REBECCA. JULIA
JANNON-SHIELDS?
>> HERE WE GO. HI ALL, LAND USE
COMMITTEE COUNCILMEMBERS. I AM
JULIA JANNON-SHIELDS AND I USE
SHE/HER PRONOUNS AND I AM
HONORED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR
APPOINTMENT TO THE SEATTLE
PLANNING COMMISSION. I GREW UP
IN THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA
WHERE I SAW FIRSTHAND HOW RAPID
DEVELOPMENT CAN HARM DIRECTLY
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND THE
SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENTS AND
THAT EXPERIENCE REALLY SHAPED MY
COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY DRIVEN
PLANNING THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO
THRIVE IN PLACE. I CURRENTLY
SERVE AS KING COUNTY'S
INAUGURAL REGIONAL PLANNING
EQUITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM
MANAGER, LEADING EQUITABLE
ENGAGEMENT AND LONG-RANGE
PLANNING. I ALSO COCHAIRED THE
PUGET SOUND REGIONAL COUNCIL
EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SERVE
ON THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY LAND
TRUST AND AND A PARTNER AT BLACK
SPACE URBAN COLLECTIVE WASTE OUT
OF NEW YORK WHERE I LEAD
WORKSHOPS FOR ORGANIZATIONS LIKE
THE AMERICAN PLANNING
ASSOCIATION ON CULTURALLY
RESPONSIVE ENGAGEMENT AND
PLANNING PRACTICES. I DEEPLY
RESPECT TO THE COMMISSION'S
EFFORTS TO AMPLIFY TRANSPARENCY
AND COMMUNITY VOICE, HENCE MY
INTEREST IN APPLYING AND I'M
EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO
CONTRIBUTE TO A MORE INCLUSIVE,
COLLABORATIVE, AND HEALING
APPROACH TO PLANNING SEATTLE'S
FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
AND CONSIDERATION.
>> DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE
PERSON WHO IS UP FOR
REAPPOINTMENT?
>> CERTAINLY. McCAELA DAFFERN IS
CURRENTLY COCHAIR OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION. SHE IS THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE
MANAGER WITH KING COUNTY'S
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT POSITION. McCAELA
HAS SERVED THREE YEARS AND IS
SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT TO SERVE
ANOTHER THREE . SHE BRINGS THE
EXPERIENCE OF WORKING AT THE
COUNTY, WORKING ON AFFORDABLE
HOUSING ISSUES PRIOR TO HER TIME
AT THE COUNTY. SHE WORKED FOR
COMMUNITY HOUSING UP ON CAPITOL
HILL. SHE IS A GREAT ASSET TO
THE COMMISSION AND I AM HOPEFUL
THAT YOU WILL APPROVE HER
REAPPOINTMENT.
>> COMMITTEE MEMBERS,
COLLEAGUES, DO WE HAVE
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR OUR
GUESTS? COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
EXCEEDS, VICE CHAIR.
>> CALL ME WHATEVER YOU NEED TO.
CLERK , I AM ALSO GOING TO ASK
TO SHARE A SCREEN. I KNOW THAT
IS A LITTLE ODD BUT REBECCA, IT
IS NICE TO MEET YOU. I GOT TO
RIDE THE BUS WITH HATCHER
YESTERDAY AND HEARD THAT
UNFORTUNATE NEWS BUT I AM REALLY
EXCITED TO MEET YOU. SOMETHING
THAT I TALKED TO THATCHER ABOUT,
DOING TRANSIT ORIENTED
DEVELOPMENT, I AM SEATTLE'S
SISTER CITY LIAISON WITH A CITY
IN CHINA. IT IS THE WORLD'S
LARGEST CITY OF 38 MILLION
PEOPLE. THEY HAVE A LIGHT RAIL
THAT IS ACTUALLY IN A BUILDING.
I AM GOING TO SHOW THIS IF I CAN
FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE -- THERE
WE GO. HERE WE GO. HERE WE HAVE
AN ACTUAL LIGHT RAIL STATION
WITHIN A BUILDING. I WOULD LIKE
TO SUBMIT THIS FOR THE RECORD AS
SOMETHING THAT IS VERY -- WE
HAVE THE SPACE. I AM ALWAYS
PUSHING, CAN WE DO THIS? CAN WE
DO THIS? I HAVE HEARD MAYBE, NOT
YET, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT. SINCE
I HAVE YOU BEFORE ME RIGHT NOW,
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO BE
READY TO HAVE LIGHT RAIL COME
INTO SEATTLE FROM A PLANNING
COMMISSION STANDPOINT? WE'VE
GOT NEARLY $20-$30 BILLION OF
INVESTMENTS. IT WILL BE 100 YEAR
INFRASTRUCTURE. WHAT WE NEED TO
BE THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE ARE
GETTING READY TO HAVE LIGHT RAIL
COME EXPAND WITHIN OUR CITY?
>> A SIMPLE, EASY QUESTION. VERY
EASY TO ANSWER. I WOULD NEVER
TRY TO SPEAK ON THATCHER'S
BEHALF. HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF
THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE
AND IS THE HIGHEST BETWEEN OUR
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. I BELIEVE
WHAT THAT REFERENCE WOULD BE IS
THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS,
POSSIBLY THAT EFFORT IS WELL
UNDERWAY, TRYING TO INTEGRATE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING , OTHER TYPES
OF DEVELOPMENT WITH OUR LIGHT
RAIL STATIONS AND OUR NEW
ALIGNMENTS. I AM NOT A PART OF
THAT PROGRAM SO I CANNOT SPEAK
TO THAT SPECIFICALLY BUT I WOULD
SAY I'M THE PLANNING
COMMISSION'S PERSPECTIVE, THEY
DO GREAT WORK IN LOOKING AT LAND
USE CODE, DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY,
LOOKING AT PERMITTING REFORMS,
THINGS LIKE THAT, ALL OF THESE
THINGS WE CAN DO TO GREASE THE
WHEEL TOWARD HITTING THOSE
PROJECTS OFF THE GROUND, MAKING
GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WITH THE
LOCAL JURISDICTION, WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, REALLY PUTTING IN
THAT WORK ON THE FRONT END TO
MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE READY
TO PUT IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE,
WHETHER IT IS DELIVERED
CONCURRENTLY OR SEQUENTIALLY
WITH THE TRANSIT AND THE
DEVELOPMENT, HOWEVER THAT CAN
WORK, TO MAKE SURE WE READ
FOR IT WHEN IT HAPPENS AND WE
DON'T MISS THAT WINDOW. I THINK
IT IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK THE
PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY
HAVE BEEN DOING GREAT WORK ON
GETTING THERE ALREADY.
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU. JULIA,
YOU SERVE WITH THE HOMESTEAD
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST. THEY JUST
HONORED ONE OF MY LONGTIME
HEROES, STEVE DARCY PUTTING AN
A/D YOU BEHIND IT AND NOW
PUTTING THAT ON THE MARKET AS
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR EVERYDAY
PEOPLE. WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE
THINKING ABOUT AS FAR AS LAND
USE ZONING AND PLANNING? WHAT WE
NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IN
ORDER TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS LIKE
HOMESTEAD COMMUNITY LAND TRUST
TO PROVIDE THOSE AFFORDABLE
HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES TO
SEATTLEITES?
>> PULLED A REAL CLOSE TO YOUR
MOUTH.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER, FOR
THE QUESTION. I THINK IT IS SO
THOUGHTFUL AND CLEAR THE
INTENTION AND CARE THAT IS
BEHIND IT. I THINK WHEN IT COMES
TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE HOMESTEAD
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND WORKING
TO ENSURE WE HAVE MORE PORTABLE
HOUSING WITH THINGS WE CAN DO AS
THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND THE
PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK
ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR ALL
REPORT AND REALLY THE FOCUS ON
COMMUNITY IMPACT AND WHERE
COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE HIGHEST TO
REALLY ENSURE THAT WE ARE MOVING
THE NEEDLE IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION. HOMESTEAD COMMUNITY
LAND TRUST HAS BEEN REALLY
TRANSFORMATIVE IN TERMS OF
CENTERING ENGAGEMENT AND
PROCESSES LIKE COMMUNITY TO
THINK ABOUT WHAT DO WE REALLY
WANT TO SEE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
AND HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT IT IS
NOT -- CONTINUES TO PRESERVE THE
HISTORY AND THE CULTURE OF OUR
REGION WHILE CONTINUING TO PUT A
PATH FORWARD TOGETHER. WHILE I
MIGHT NOT HAVE A DIRECT
OVERARCHING ANSWER, COMMUNITY
REALLY KNOWS BEST AND IT HAS
BEEN REALLY INSIGHTFUL AND
WONDERFUL. AS A BOARD MEMBER,
SPEAK ON DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES,
HEARING WHAT THEY WANT AND HOW
THEY CAN REALLY BUILD TOGETHER.
WE SPENT LAST WEEKEND IN THE
SKYWAY DOING A TWO DAY COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WHERE WE
TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY OF
REDLINING WITHIN SEATTLE, THEN
THE DESIGN MAPPING AND WHAT DO
WE WANT TO SEE AND HOW CAN THAT
REALLY BE REFLECTED AND THAT
TYPE OF WORK THROUGHOUT KING
COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SEATTLE
IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE
PUSHING THIS FORWARD AND HAVING
PROCESSES LIKE THE PLANNING
COMMISSION I REALLY ALLOW
COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE IN FRONT
OF AUDIENCES LIKE THIS AND TALK
ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE AND
HOW THEY CAN CONTINUE TO
REPRESENT THE COMMUNITIES TO
ENSURE WE ARE WORKING TOWARD A
SEATTLE FOR EVERYONE. I HOPE
THAT IS INSIGHTFUL AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THOSE
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES COMING
TOGETHER.
>> ANSWER THAT GIVES ME HOMEWORK
TO READ THE REPORT.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO OUR
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR . THANK YOU
BOTH FOR BEING HERE TODAY TO
SPEAK WITH US. THANK YOU FOR
BEING WILLING TO SERVE ON THE
PLANNING COMMISSION. IT IS CLEAR
THAT YOU BOTH BRING AN ABUNDANCE
OF EXPERTISE. I AM THINKING
ABOUT THE BODIES OF WORK COMING
AHEAD OF US AND WE ARE MOVING .
WE ARE GOING TO KEEP BEING IN
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WORK FOR
A WHILE AND THE PLANNING
COMMISSION HAS WEIGHED IN ON THE
PREVIOUS DRAFTS OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I AM
WONDERING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE,
WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE
OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE AS A
COUNCIL AND AS A CITY WITH THIS
CONFERENCE A PLAN AS WE ARE
ENGAGING THIS WORK AND HOW WOULD
YOU LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL BE
BETTER ENGAGING WITH A BODY OF
WORK?
>> I WILL TAKE A STAB AT THAT.
OBVIOUSLY IT IS A BIG LIST, HUGE
EFFORT, SO MANY VOICES IN THE
ROOM, SO MANY VOICES COMING FROM
EVERYWHERE. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT
FOR COUNCIL TO REALLY TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVE LIVES AND COME TO A
CONCLUSION THAT EVERYONE IS
HAPPY WITH AND I FEEL LIKE WHAT
HAS COME OUT OF THE PROCESS IS
GOOD. OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD LOVE TO
SEE A LOT OF HOUSING DIVERSITY,
A LOT OF DENSITY AND A LOT OF
ROOM FOR GROWTH THERE. WHAT CAME
OUT OF THAT PROCESS IS A GOOD
REPRESENTATION OF COMPROMISE AND
I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT PUT INTO
THAT COMPROMISE. PERSONALLY, I
WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN IT
ON FURTHER. I CAN'T SPEAK TO
HOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS
INTERACTED BECAUSE I WAS NOT ON
THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT I DO
KNOW THAT THEY HAVE VOICED A
SIMILAR OPINION THROUGHOUT THIS
PROCESS. I AGREE WITH THAT
OPINION. HOWEVER, THE PLANNING
COMMISSION HAS TO ADVISE THE
COUNCIL AND LET YOU ALL MAKE THE
HARD DECISIONS ON LISTENING TO
THOSE VOICES BUT I WOULD LOVE TO
SEE FURTHER ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
PLANNING COMMISSION ON BOTH THE
COMP PLAN AND WHATEVER WORK
FURTHER COMES OUT THROUGH THAT.
THERE ARE ALWAYS ITEMS THAT ARE
REVEALED THROUGH A DISCUSSION
AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BUT
THAT CAN BE SNUFFED OUT AFTER
THE FACT, ONE THAT FOCUSES FROM
GETTING THIS DOCUMENT AND THIS
PACKAGE DONE TO LET'S LOOK BACK
AT THE PROCESS AND SEE WHAT WE
CAN OPTIMIZE IN THE FUTURE.
THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS. I
AM SURE I WILL HAVE MORE IN THE
COMING WEEKS.
>> THAT WAS WONDERFUL. I
DEFINITELY ECHO THE SENTIMENT. I
THINK THE OTHER THING THAT COMES
TO MIND FOR ME IS, IN THIS PAST
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WITH THE PLAN
TO REALLY DEDICATE FUNDS TOWARD
ALLOCATING THEM TO
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS TO
LEAD THEIR EFFORTS AND THEIR
COMMUNITY, REALLY UNDERSTANDING
THEM AS EXPERTS AND GETTING TO
BE DOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN
A WAY THAT IS REALLY AUTHENTIC
WAS REALLY EXPIRING --
INSPIRING, ESPECIALLY AS I AM
STARTING OUT THIS NEW PROGRAM IN
KING COUNTY FOR REGIONAL
PLANNING EQUITY AND ENGAGEMENT.
THOSE ARE MODELS THAT I AM JUST
IN AWE OF AND AM REALLY GRATEFUL
TO BE SEEING AND HAVING
PARTNERED OUR REGION THAT ARE
DEDICATED TO THAT AND MOVING
FORWARD, AT LEAST FROM A
PLANNING COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE
AND WORKING WITH COUNCIL,
CONTINUING TO ENSURE THAT THERE
ARE FUNDS DEDICATED TO COMMUNITY
PARTICIPATION IN A RANGE OF WAYS
TO ENSURE THAT FOLKS CAN COME
WHETHER IT IS CHILDCARE OR FOOD
OR TRANSPORTATION BUT THEN ALSO
CONTINUING TO HONOR THFACT THATY
BEST AND GIVING THEM THOSE
RESOURCES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED
AND MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY
ARE AT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS
WONDERFUL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO
THE WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO
PARTNER AND PUSH THAT WORK
FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU BOTH AGAIN FOR YOUR
SERVICE. REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE
YOU JOINING THE PLANNING
COMMISSION. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA, ANY COMMENTS FROM YOU?
>> NO COMMENTS FROM -- WELL, I
WILL JUST SAY LIKE I ALWAYS SAY.
I RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE
VOLUNTEER POSITIONS. I ALWAYS
APPRECIATE EVERYONE SHOWING UP
TO SERVE. IT IS AN IMPORTANT --
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN
IMPORTANT BODY AS IT ADVISES ON
ALL THINGS LAND USE RELATED AND
I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
SERVE.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE NOTHING
FURTHER TO ADD. I WANT TO
EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. IT IS A
REALLY HIGH-PAYING GIG.
DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU AND
EVERY PERSON ON EVERY COMMISSION
TO TAKE THEIR VOLUNTEER TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT ,
I MOVED THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND CONFIRMATION OF
APPOINTMENTS 3186 THROUGH 3188.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO RECOMMEND
CONFIRMATION OF THE
APPOINTMENTS. ANY OTHER FURTHER
COMMENT? OKAY. CLERK, WILL YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA?
>> AYE.
>> CHAIR SOLOMON?
>> AYE.
>> VERY GOOD. THE MOTION CARRIES
AND THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATIONS AS COUNCIL
CONFIRMS THE APPOINTMENT WILL BE
SENT TO THE JUNE 24, 2025 FULL
CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU
ALL VERY MUCH. AGAIN, THANK YOU
FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO BRINGING YOU THE FULL
NOMINATIONS -- YOUR FULL
NOMINATIONS TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
APPOINTMENT CONFIRMATION.
>> THANK YOU ALL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A
BIT OF A TRANSITION HERE. CLERK,
WILL YOU PLEASE READ AGENDA ITEM
FOUR INTO THE RECORD?
>> AGENDA ITEM 4, CONFIRMATION
26400, INFORMATIONAL ITEM
CONSERVING CRIME PREVENTION
THROUGH BARE-METAL DESIGN, FOR
BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> FOR THIS PORTION, I WILL BE
MOVING TO THE PRESENTATION TABLE
AND I WILL BE JOINED BY SOME
COLLEAGUES THERE.
>>> WE ARE CONTINUING THE
DISCUSSION ON CRIME PREVENTION
THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN AND
THE ARGUMENT FOR GETTING IT
CODIFIED IN SEATTLE AND I WOULD
LIKE MY COLLEAGUES TO INTRODUCE
THEMSELVES FOR THE RECORD.
>> I'M LISA NITZE , PRINCIPAL
WITH NITZE-STAGEN AND DEVELOPER
IN SEATTLE.
>> I'M LORI McEWUEN , THE VICE
PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT AT
NITZE-STAGEN.
>> ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I
HAVE ASKED THEM TO JOIN ME IS
THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPERS. THEY
ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BUILDING
OUR HOUSING. THEY ARE THE ONES
WHO VOLUNTARILY REACHED OUT TO
ME TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THE
PROJECT. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGE HER
PERSPECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THE
TOPIC. TO PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT
OFF BEFORE, AS MENTIONED, THESE
ARE JUST AN EXAMPLE OF
PROJECT'S -- PROJECTS I HAVE
LOOKED AT. COMMUNITY CENTERS,
OPEN SPACES. THE SPACES DO APPLY
TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT BUT ANY
HUMAN ENVIRONMENT. COMMUNITY
CENTER, PARK. TO THAT END, I
WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF
PROJECT'S. I WANT TO HAVE MORE
DISCUSSION. I THOUGHT IT WAS
MORE IMPORTANT. ONE OF THE
PROJECTS WE LOOKED AT IS THE
NITZE-STAGEN PROJECT ON 4001
SOUTH WILLOW STREET. AN EIGHT
STORY BUILDING, 195 RESIDENTIAL
UNITS, 12 PARKING STALLS. I JUST
DON'T LOOK AT WHAT THE BUILDING
IS, I LOOK AT WHERE IS IT GOING,
WHERE IS IN THE SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW IT WILL IMPACT
THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND HOW
IS THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT GOING
TO IMPACT THE SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN I LOOK AT
THIS ONE, I AM LOOKING AT WHAT
IS IN THE AREA. IT IS BASICALLY
TWO WALKS AWAY FROM THE LIGHT
RAIL STATION AREA. ACROSS THE
STREET, YOU HAVE A TAX CREDIT
PROPERTY. RIGHT DOWN THE STREET,
YOU HAVE ANOTHER LOW INCOME TAX
CREDIT PROPERTY. YOU ALSO HAVE
MARKET RATE APARTMENTS IN THE
IMMEDIATE AREA AS WELL AS A
SEATTLE HOUSING AUTHORITY
PROPERTIES. YOU HAVE SHOPPING,
COMMERCIAL, MEDICAL, DENTAL,
BANKING. VERY THRIVING, VERY
DIVERSE COMMUNITY. SO, WHEN I
LOOKED AT THE INITIAL PLAN, WHAT
YOU ARE SEEING HERE IS THE
PICTURE ABOVE, THE GARAGE LEVEL.
AS A PRACTITIONER, I AM LOOKING
AT WHERE ARE POTENTIAL ACCESS
POINTS. WHERE ARE THE POTENTIAL
CONFLICT POINTS. I AM LOOKING AT
THE GROUND LEVEL. I AM LOOKING
AT WHERE IS THE ENTRANCE TO THIS
GARAGE? WHERE IS THAT RAMP? I AM
ALSO LOOKING AT HOW WIDE IS THAT
RAMP? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE
VEHICLES GOING IN AND COMING OUT
CAN BE CONSISTENT WITH EACH
OTHER AS WELL AS SOMETHING I AM
LOOKING AT, HOW CAN WE HAVE
VISUAL CUES IN THE GARAGE TO
PREVENT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC,
ICICLE TRAFFIC AND VEHICULAR
TRAFFIC FROM COMING INTO
CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY
ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR
SET UP HERE.
>> I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO
LORI. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY
THAT WE NOW ARE PRIMARILY
BUILDING MIXED INCOME AND
AFFORDABLE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING
IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES. WE HAVE
MANY OF THEM GOING UP IN THE
SOUTH SEATTLE AREA AND THREE OF
THEM IN OTHELLO. THE FIRST THING
THAT WE DO WHEN WE BEGIN PUTTING
OUR PLANS TOGETHER, HAS BEEN TO
GO TO MARK AND SAY, WHAT ARE WE
MISSING HERE? WHAT ARE WE
MISSING HERE THAT WILL CAUSE
ISSUES FOR SAFETY FOR OUR
TENANTS THAT ARE GOING TO CREATE
PROBLEMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE
ARE LOOKING AT IT IN A WHOLE LOT
OF DIFFERENT WAYS FROM OUR
PERSPECTIVE AND YOU MISS STUFF.
MARK HAS BEEN ENORMOUSLY HELPFUL
TO US AND HE HAS DONE THAT NOW
FOR I THINK SIX OF OUR PROJECTS.
LORI CAN SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS
OF IT. OF COURSE, MARK IS
LOOKING AT IT FROM HIS
PERSPECTIVE WHICH IS ALL SAFETY.
THEN THERE IS MEETING IN THE
MIDDLE. THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN
DO THAT MIGHT BE FORGOTTEN
ABOUT. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT
YOU ASK IMMEDIATELY, MARK, IS
AROUND THE ACCESS AND IN THAT
CASE, THE RAMP -- THIS IS GOING
TO BE TRICKY. WHAT WE TAKE FROM
THE CHECKLIST IS THAT WE ARE
CONSTRAINED ON THE SITE. WE
CAN'T MAYBE HAVE THIS AS WIDE
AS WE LIKE. LET'S PUT IN SOME
MIRRORS. LET'S PUT IN STRATEGIES
WE CAN ADD AND REALLY ADDRESS
SAFETY . WE CAN'T BUILD IT THAT
WAY BUT WE CAN PUT IN ELEMENTS
TO IMPROVE IT. IN THIS GARAGE,
WE HAVE VERY LIMITED PARKING BUT
WE ALSO HAVE ALL THE BIKES IN
THE BUILDING AND WE HAVE A
FITNESS CENTER. THERE ARE A LOT
OF DIFFERENT USES THAT ARE
MOVING AROUND ON THIS LEVEL.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL POINT OUT
THAT WHEN I FIRST GOT THIS
PROJECT, IT LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN
IT DOES NOW. THE AMENITY OF THE
FITNESS CENTER WAS NEW. THE
LOCATIONS OF BIKE STORAGE HAS
BEEN MOVED. THIS HAS BEEN A
LITTLE BIT OF THE CHANGE HERE .
I ALSO ASKED ABOUT WHAT COLOR
ARE THE WALLS? IF YOU HAVE
LIGHT-COLORED WALLS AND A
GARAGE, YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF THE REFLECTIVE LIGHT AND YOU
DON'T NEED AS MANY LIGHTS
STANDARD. THAT CAN CREATE ENERGY
EFFICIENCY. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE
LOOKING AT WITH THE GARAGE. I AM
ALSO THINKING THAT ONCE I AM IN
THE GARAGE, I CAN GET ANYWHERE
IN THAT BUILDING AND FROM A
SAFETY AND SECURITY STANDPOINT,
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOESN'T
HAPPEN HERE . IF YOU ARE IN THE
GARAGE AND YOU NEED TO GET TO
THE STREET LEVEL BUT YOU WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO ANY OF THE
RESIDENTIAL LEVELS AND THAT
MEANS HAVING THE ELEVATORS
FOBBED. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE
CONSIDERATIONS I WOULD BRING
FORTH WITH THEM. WHEN I LOOK AT
THE AMENITY OF THE FITNESS ROOM,
I AM WONDERING, IS THERE SOME
KIND OF GLAZING THERE? CAN
PEOPLE LOOK OUT? CAN FOLKS WHO
ARE IN THE GARAGE SEE INTO THE
FITNESS ROOM? WHAT KIND OF
VISIBILITY IS BETWEEN THOSE TWO
PLACES SO THAT IF I AM GOING TO
GO INTO THE FITNESS ROOM, I WANT
TO KNOW WHAT I'M WALKING INTO.
I WANT TO IS IN
THERE SO I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT
THERE IS SIX GUYS WHO WEIGH 300
POUNDS PUMPING AWAY. JUST AS A
PRECAUTION. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE
GROUND FLOOR, THE PRIMARY THING
THAT STANDS OUT TO ME, AND THAT
IS THE PHOTO ON THE BOTTOM
LEVEL, WHERE IS THE MAIN
ENTRANCE? HOW DO I GET INTO THIS
PLACE? YOU CAN SEE OVER ON THE
RIGHT SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE THE
RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THOUGH
ONE-BEDROOM, THE TWO BEDROOM
LOFT, THAT WAS INITIALLY
DESIGNED TO BE A COMMERCIAL
SPACE. THAT HAS SINCE BEEN TAKEN
OUT AND HAS NOW BEEN UPGRADED TO
RESIDENTIAL UNITS ONLY WHICH IS
WHY THE INITIAL UNIT COUNT OF
191 HAS NOW INCREASED TO 195.
THE COMMERCIAL SPACE WAS TAKEN
OUT. ADDITIONAL RENTALS WERE PUT
IN. THAT BEING SAID, I STILL
WANT TO KNOW, WHERE IS MY ENTRY
POINT? I SEE THERE IS A LOBBY
VESTIBULE THAT ENTERS INTO THE
LOBBY. IS NOT A CONTROLLED ENTRY
THAT YOU NEED A KEY CARD TO GET
IN? IS THERE A SECONDARY LOCK?
YOU NEED TO BUZZ IN, THOSE KINDS
OF THINGS. WHERE DOES THE
LEASING OFFICE HAVE VISIBILITY
OF THE LOBBY? DOES THE LEASING
OFFICE HAVE GOOD VISIBILITY OF A
PACKAGE AREA AND THE MAIL AREA?
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE
OFTEN IN THESE TYPES OF
BUILDINGS IS PACKAGING. I WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS GOOD
VISIBILITY THROUGHOUT THAT
COMMON SPACE. AGAIN, DO I NEED
TO PROPERLY ACCESS THE
ELEVATORS? DO I NEED A FOB TO
ACCESS ANY OF THESE RESIDENTIAL
HALLWAYS? THAT IS SOMETHING I
WOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A
VISUAL OF THE EXTERIOR.
>> I DO.
>> THE ONE THING I SAY BEFORE WE
LEAVE THIS IS THAT AFTER OUR
CONVERSATION FOR ALL OF OUR
PROJECTS, ONE THING WE ARE
REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IS
TRYING TO PROVIDE ACCESS THROUGH
ONE MAIN POINT AND THEN, LIKE IN
THIS CASE, THAT HALLWAY IS ONLY
AN EXIT. YOU ENTER THROUGH THE
MAIN LOBBY AND THEN YOU CAN'T
ENTER BACK IN -- YOU CAN SEE THE
DOOR AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY.
WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE CONTROLLING
WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THE
BUILDING. WE ARE ALLOWING THEM
TO EXIT FREELY BUT TO COME
THROUGH AN AREA WHERE THERE IS
MORE PEOPLE TOGETHER, MAKING
SURE THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
>> THANK YOU. LET ME SEE IF I
CAN BACK IT UP TO GET INTO THIS.
>> THERE ARE TWO ELEMENTS OF
THIS THAT LORI CAN SPEAK ABOUT
THAT ARE CHANGED FROM THE
ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT ARE
SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE
INPUT THAT WE GOT. THE STAIRS
AND THE OPEN AREA, WHICH IS LAND
THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY THAT WE
AGREED TO MAKE INTO A PUBLIC
PARK.
>> THE STAIRCASE THAT YOU CAN
SEE IN THE CENTER OF THE
BUILDING THERE, THERE WILL BE A
PIECE OF ART ON THAT SCARE CASE
-- STAIRCASE THAT WAS DESIGNED
BY A LOCAL ARTIST THAT WAS
ORIGINALLY DESIGNED AS AN OPEN
AIR STAIRCASE THAT PROVIDED --
IT CAUSED SOME DESIGN CHALLENGES
BUT ALSO SEEMED LIKE THROUGH OUR
CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCILMEMBER
SOLOMON, THAT IT PROVIDED SOME
POTENTIAL SECURITY CONCERNS AS
WELL. WE JUST BROUGHT THAT INTO
THE BUILDING. WE STILL HAVE THE
PUBLIC ART. THE PLAZA AREA THAT
WE JUST MENTIONED, THAT IS THE
AREA WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST
INPUT. THAT IS A CITY OF SEATTLE
PROPERTY. IT IS ADJACENT TO OUR
BUILDING AT THE CORNER OF WILLOW
STREET AND MARTIN LUTHER KING
JR. SOUTH AND WE WANTED TO
IMPROVE THAT PROPERTY HAS A
BENEFIT TO THOSE RESIDENTS AND
THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I THINK
THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN
THINKING THROUGH WHAT DOES NOT
DESIGN LOOK LIKE IN A WAY THAT
IS POSITIVE FOR PEOPLE RATHER
THAN BECOMING A PROBLEM AREA.
THERE IS A LOT OF INPUT ON
COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON AND WHAT
THE SPACE TURNED INTO BE.
>> THE OPEN-AIR STAIRWELL LOOK
LIKE IT COULD BE ACCESSED FROM
THE CLOWN FOR -- GROUND FLOOR
AND FROM THERE YOU HAD ACCESS TO
ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL LEVELS
ABOVE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS
WAS TO HAVE THAT GATED OFF SO
THAT IT WASN'T JUST
GROUND-LEVEL ACCESS INTO THAT
STAIRWELL TO BE ABLE TO GET TO
ANYWHERE IN THE BUILDING.
ANOTHER ONE OF THE PLANS HAD TO
LOOK AT 178 PAGES. TYPICALLY,
THAT IS THE KIND OF VOLUME I AM
LOOKING AT. AGAIN, I AM
PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON GROUND
FLOOR, GARAGE, ANY ACCESS
POINTS. I AM LOOKING AT GLAZING
MATERIAL. I AM LOOKING AT TYPE
OF DOORS, TYPE OF LIGHTING.
AGAIN, THIS IS BASICALLY THE
GARAGE LEVEL THAT WE ALREADY
SAW. AGAIN, GROUND-FLOOR. I
TEACH OTHER PRACTITIONERS HOW TO
LOOK AT A BLUEPRINT, HOW TO
REVEAL THE FLOOR PLAN. WE HAVE A
GROUND-LEVEL PLANNING SCHEDULE
THAT YOU CAN SEE. ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT I WOULD DO ON TOP OF
LOOKING AT THE VEGETATION PLAN
IS LOOKING AT THE LIGHTING PLAN
AND MAKING SURE THAT THE
LIGHTING PLAN AND THE VEGETATION
PLAN DON'T CONFLICT WITH EACH
OTHER BECAUSE IT IS NOT UNCOMMON
THAT THERE WILL BE A GREAT
VEGETATION PLAN AND GREAT
LIGHTING PLAN BUT WHEN THAT
VEGETATION REACHES FULL
MATURITY, IT IS BLOCKING LIGHT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE
TWO ELEMENTS ARE ACTUALLY IN
CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER AND NOT
IN CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. THE
AREA TO YOUR RIGHT, THAT IS THE
PLAZA THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED.
THIS OPEN AIR AREA HERE IS FROM
THE PREVIOUS PLANS WHERE YOU SEE
THE OPEN COURTYARD AND THEN, WHO
WERE THE INTENDED USERS FOR
THIS? THE FOLKS WHO WILL BE IN
THE RETAIL SPACE? OR, WILL IT BE
FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE
RESIDENTIAL? HOW DO YOU DO
TERRITORIAL REINFORCEMENT TO
ENSURE THAT THE SPACE IS BEING
USED BY THE FOLKS YOU INTENDED
IT TO BE USED BY? AGAIN, WHAT
ELSE IS THERE ALREADY. WHO ELSE
IS IN THE AREA? HOW ARE WE
SEPARATING THAT FROM THE STREET?
HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WE
DON'T HAVE ANY VEHICLES IN THAT
AREA WERE WE HAVE PEOPLE
GATHERING. JUST A COUPLE OF
CONSIDERATIONS THAT I HAVE
THERE. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO
ADD?
>> NO. JUST, IN AGGREGATE,
BECAUSE WE DO THIS ON ALL OF OUR
PROJECTS, OUR DESIGNERS OR
ARCHITECTS HAVE REALLY ABSORBED
AND OFFERED A LOT. THESE THINGS
ARE ALL BEING WORKED IN
SUBSEQUENT IN A WAY THAT IT IS
HELPFUL. THE ONE THING THAT LORI
AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT
IT HAS TO BE DONE EARLY ON
BECAUSE IT IS VERY, VERY
EXPENSIVE TO CHANGE WALLS AND
LIGHTS AND POLES AND THINGS LIKE
THAT. THE VALUE HERE IS GETTING
AT THIS VERY EARLY IN THE DESIGN
PROCESS AND GETTING INPUT. IF IT
IS TOO LATE, THEN IT GETS HARDER
AND HARDER TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT
THE GOOD IDEAS.
>> WHICH, ACTUALLY, AT WHAT
DESIGN STAGE WOULD IT BE TOO
LATE TO IMPLEMENT THESE CHANGES?
>> I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE
LOOKING AT THIS -- YOU HAVE YOUR
MASKING IN PLACE. YOU STARTED TO
PUT TOGETHER YOUR SHIP AND THEN
YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION
RESPECTIVELY ENOUGH. IF IT IS
TOO EARLY, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE
TO RESPOND, TO HAVE THE
GUIDANCE, RATHER JUST THE WAY
YOU HAVE DONE IT WHERE IT IS
ASKING, DO YOU HAVE THIS? IT IS
EFFECTIVE WHEN YOU HAVE A SET OF
PLANS THAT ARE SO MALLEABLE,
WHERE YOU ARE ABLE TO CHANGE THE
ELECTRICAL AND ADD LIGHTING AND
THEN ALSO, TO DO A SUBSEQUENT
CHECK ALMOST RIGHT BEFORE
CONSTRUCTION. DID WE GET ALL OF
THIS? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE
MISSED? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT
IS NOW IN CONFLICT WITH WHAT WE
HAD EARLIER? TWO REVIEWS. TWO
REMINDERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE
CHECKLIST.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES?
>> I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
THIS IS VERY GOOD INFORMATION.
MAYBE WE WILL ANSWER THIS OVER
THE COURSE OF THE CONVERSATION.
WHERE I AM GETTING HUNG UP IS A
SIMILAR QUESTION. WHEN DO WE
CHECK-IN? HOW DO WE CHECK IN?
ONE OF THE BEST PARTNERS WE HAVE
IN THE CITY, SOMETHING I ALWAYS
APPRECIATE ABOUT SOMETHING YOU
DO IS THAT THERE IS A THIRD
BOTTOM LINE. HOW ARE YOU, AS A
COMPANY, BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF
SEATTLE AND HOW ARE YOU MAKING
SEATTLE BETTER? I AM NOT
SURPRISED TO SEE YOU AT THE
TABLE TODAY. THE QUESTION FOR ME
BECOMES, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY CIVIC
MINDED IN THE SAME WAY? I AM NOT
CALLING THEM BAD. THERE IS NO
NEGATIVE CONNOTATION. IT IS JUST
THAT YOU ARE THAT MUCH BETTER.
THANK YOU. HOW DO WE ENGAGE WITH
THEM. DO WE CODIFY PARTS OF
THIS? THEN, IT BECOMES HARDER IN
SOME WAYS. I HAVE SEEN WELL
INTENDED CODE BECOME
PROBLEMATIC. IS IT ALL CARROTS?
ARE WE PROVIDING INCENTIVE? ARE
WE PROVIDING A MASSIVE -- LARGER
MASS IN HIGHER HEIGHTS? IF
PEOPLE ENGAGE IN A CERTAIN
ASPECTS OR IS IT REQUIRING
CONSULTATION AT CERTAIN POINTS
IN THE DESIGN PROCESS. JUST
HEARING THE CONVERSATION SO FAR
THIS MORNING, THAT IS WHERE MY
MIND IS GOING. I AM NOT ASKING
FOR A DIRECT ANSWER HERE BUT
MAYBE WE CAN WEAVE IT INTO THE
CONVERSATION.
>> IT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND I
THINK THE RIGHT QUESTION BECAUSE
THE POINT IS THAT WE ARE ALL
TRYING TO DO MAXIMUM THINGS WE
CAN IN ORHOOD AND IF
ALL OF THE BUILDINGS ARE HAVING
THIS LEVEL OF THOUGHTFULNESS
ABOUT THIS, IN THE AGGREGATE, IT
WILL BE SAFER FOR THE TENANTS.
HOW DO YOU GET THERE? I JUST
HAPPEN TO HAVE WORKED WITH MARK
ON SOME COMMUNITY THINGS. IF YOU
WANT, I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
STUFF AND THAT IS HUGE HELP.
MARK IS HELPING US IN OUR OWN
CIRCLES AND JUST DOING A COUPLE
OF PRESENTATIONS ABOUT IT. LORI
IS THE ONE TO SPEAK TO IT. IT IS
A SHAME NOT TO DO IT. IT IS UP
TO US TO HAVE IT PROLIFERATE
SOME BUT THEN THE FAR END OF
THAT IS FOR DEVELOPERS, THE MORE
MANDATES THAT YOU CREATE AND THE
MORE THINGS THAT ONE HAS TO DO
OR HAS TO WAIT FOR AN REVIEW ON
OR OTHER KINDS OF THINGS, THAT
IS TERRIBLY COSTLY AND VERY,
VERY BURDENSOME WHEN WE ARE ALL
TRYING TO GET SUCCESSFUL HOUSING
BUILT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO
MEET THE NEED. IT IS SOMEWHERE
IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
>> I WOULD AGREE. I WOULD SAY
PROVIDING THE CHECKLIST EARLY
ON, WHEN YOU BEGIN THE
PERMITTING PROCESS, I DON'T
KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU
INCORPORATE IT BUT THE CHECKLIST
GETS YOUR WHEELS TURNING. IT IS
NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU PLAN
AND WAIT X AMOUNT OF MONTHS FOR
A RESPONSE BUT THESE ARE THE
THINGS YOU NEED TO BE THINKING
ABOUT. DO YOU HAVE THESE? THEN,
ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO TAKE IT
FROM THERE. THESE ARE THE
ELEMENTS -- THE CHECKLIST IS SO
THOROUGH AND THOUGHTFUL.
DEVELOPERS CAN INCORPORATE THESE
THINGS IF THEY ARE GIVEN THE
GUIDANCE ON HOW IT CAN BE DONE
PROPERLY.
>> I JUST LOOK AT BUILDINGS IN
BALLARD THAT WERE BUILT IN THE
2006 TO 2010 RANGE THAT DID NOT
EVEN HAVE GATES ON THEIR
GARAGES. THEY JUST GOT OPEN
PARKING LOTS AND THE PUBLIC
SAFETY CHALLENGES THAT WERE
CREATED FROM THOSE POCKETS, IF
YOU WILL, NOT ONLY IMPACTED THE
RESIDENTS BUT IMPACTED THE
GREATER COMMUNITY. A LOT OF
THOSE HOA'S HAD TO PUT $30,000
IN TO MAKE THOSE RETROFITS. IT
IS HARD TO GO AND FIX THE
PROBLEM ONCE IT IS BUILT. THAT
IS WHY I THINK -- COUNCILMEMBER
SOLOMON, YOUR QUESTION OF WHEN
IT IS THE RIGHT TIME IS EXACTLY
RIGHT . I'M GOING TO BE QUIET
AND KEEP LISTENING TO THE
PRESENTATION AND I WOULD LOVE TO
KEEP WORKING AND ANSWER YOUR
QUESTIONS.
>> GREAT. THAT ACTUALLY IS A
GOOD SEGUE. AT WHAT POINT IS IT
TOO LATE TO MAKE CHANGES? THAT
IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE
COMMUNITY CENTER. I WAS ASKED BY
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW
THIS AS THE CENTER WAS UNDER
REDEVELOPMENT. THEY WERE ALREADY
SO FAR ALONG IN THE PROCESS. I
THINK THEY WERE AT THE 60%
STAGE. ANYTHING I RECOMMENDED AT
THAT POINT WAS PROBABLY TOO LATE
AND THE ONE THING I NOTICED WHEN
I WAS LOOKING AT THIS PLAN --
AGAIN, I AM ALWAYS LOOKING
WHERE IS THIS THING? WHAT IS IN
THE AREA? WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF
SURROUNDING AREA GOING TO BE ON
IT? WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF IT ON
THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WHEN I
LURK -- LOOK, YOU HAVE A POOL,
YOU HAVE HENDERSON WHICH HAS
SEVEN DIFFERENT BUS ROUTES THAT
CONVERGE. YOU HAVE RAINIER BEACH
HIGH SCHOOL A COUPLE OF BLOCKS
TO THE EAST. YOU HAVE THE
LIBRARY A COUPLE OF BLOCKS
SOUTH. YOU HAVE MAJOR SHOPPING
THAT IS KITTY CORNER FROM THERE.
YOU HAVE JUST ABOUT TWO BLOCKS
WEST, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. TO
THE NORTH OF THIS, YOU HAVE AN
ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL, SOUTH LAKE.
THERE IS A LOT IN THIS
PARTICULAR AREA AND AS YOU CAN
SEE, SOUTH OF THE COMMUNITY
CENTER, YOU HAVE THIS LARGE OPEN
PLAZA. ONE OF THE THINGS I
NOTICED ABOUT THE PLANS WERE
THAT THE ENTRANCES. YOU HAVE ONE
MAJOR ENTRANCE ON THE NORTH SIDE
WHICH LEADS TO THE MAIN PARKING
AREA AND YOU HAVE MAJOR ENTRANCE
TO THE SOUTHSIDE THAT LEADS TO
THE PLAZA AREA. BOTH WERE
INTENDED TO BE OPEN AT ALL TIMES
AND I LOOKED AT THE ORIENTATION
AT THE FRONT DESK. THE FRONT
DESK IS ONLY ORIENTED NORTH.
THERE ARE NO EYES FROM THAT DESK
ON THE SOUTH ENTRANCE. THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT I MADE WAS
TO REORIENT THAT DESK 90 DEGREES
SO THERE WOULD BE NATURAL EYES
ON BOTH THE NORTH ENTRANCE AND
THE SOUTH ENTRANCE. THAT WAS NOT
DONE. BUFFER STATUS COMMUNITY
CENTER OPENED, THERE WAS A FIGHT
DISTURBANCE THAT DEVELOPED IN
THE FIGHT MADE ITS WAY NORTH
THROUGH THAT SOUTH ENTRANCE,
THROUGH THE COMMUNITY CENTER, AT
THE NORTH ENTRANCE AND INTO THE
MAIN PARKING LOT. SINCE THEN,
THEY HAVE HAD TO CLOSE THAT DOOR
ON THE SOUTH PLAZA AND BASICALLY
KEEP IT CLOSED, KEEP IT LOCKED.
WHEN I WAS AT THE COMMUNITY
CENTER THIS PAST WEEKEND, AGAIN,
THERE ARE SIGNS ON THE DOOR THAT
DIRECT PEOPLE TO GO AROUND TO
THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING
BECAUSE THAT DOOR GOT USED. ONE
OF THE THINGS I ASKED ABOUT WAS
CAMERAS. CAN YOU PUT A CAMERA ON
THE DOOR? YES, THERE IS A CAMERA
ON THE DOOR. ALTHOUGH, WHERE YOU
SEE WHERE THE CAMERA IS THAT
LOOK SAD THAT DOOR IS PRETTY
MUCH THE CENTER OF A HALLWAY BY
BOTH CLASSROOMS BETWEEN THE POOL
AND THE CLASSROOMS OVER ON THE
RIGHT-HAND SIDE. THEY ARE NOT
VERY GOOD VISIBILITY. THERE IS A
CAMERA THAT LOOKS AT THE PLAZA
BUT IT DOES NOT LOOK ON THE
STORE. THE CAMERAS CAN ONLY BE
VIEWED FROM A UTILITY CLOSET
ACROSS THE HALL ON THE MAIN
DESK. I SAID MAKE SURE THE FOLKS
AT THE MAIN DESK CAN DO IT.
CURRENT CONFIGURATIONS ARE THE
CAMERAS CAN ONLY BE VIEWED BY
THE COMMUNITY CENTER'S
DIRECTOR'S DESK. THAT WOULD BE
A CHANGE THAT I WOULD MAKE IN
TERMS OF POLICY IN TERMS OF
CAMERA PLACEMENT. I WOULD
RECOMMEND MORE BUT THIS IS AN
EXAMPLE OF RECOGNITION BEING
MADE AT A POINT WHERE IT WAS TOO
LATE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE CHANGES.
THE WHOLE IDEA ABOUT
CODIFICATION WITH THIS IS, THINK
ABOUT THIS EARLY IN E DO WE
DO IT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A
SERIES? ONE OF THE THINGS I
LOOKED AT WAS, WHAT ARE OTHER
CITIES, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES --
WHAT DO THEY HAVE IN TERMS OF
CODE? I LOOKED AT THE EXAMPLE OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA, WHICH PROBABLY
HAS THE MOST ROBUST LANGUAGE IN
THEIR CODES. ONE IS A STATEMENT
THAT SAYS, YOU TAP AND SUPPORT A
VELOCITY. IT IS A STATEMENT THAT
WITH -- WAS PURPOSE. IT
BASICALLY WAS SAYING THAT NOT
ONLY DO WE SUPPORT THIS STUFF
BUT WE WILL SUPPORT IT THROUGH
ALL OF OUR PROCESSES.
>> ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE
OVERLAY DISTRICT. IT CALLS OUT
WHICH ELEMENTS WILL BE
INCORPORATED AND PRIMARILY WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT NATURAL
SURVEILLANCE, NATURAL ACCESS
CONTROL AND TERRITORIAL
REINFORCEMENT. AS WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, THERE ARE
THE FIVE OVERLAPPING STRATEGIES
FOR THE PURPOSES OF
CODIFICATION. NATURAL
SURVEILLANCE, NATURAL ACCESS
CONTROL AND TERRITORIAL
REAPPOINTMENT ARE THE ONES THAT
WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AND GET
INCORPORATED INTO CODE. AN
EXAMPLE FROM JUPITER, FLORIDA,
WITH SECTION 2718 58,
SUPPLEMENTAL DISTRICT
REGULATIONS. IT SPELLS OUT THAT
CPTED CENTERS SHALL BE
INCORPORATED INTO ALL NEW
DISTRICTS. THEY ARE PRIMARILY
TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
AND, THEY LAY OUT SPECIFIC
EXAMPLES REGARDING MURALS AND
SCULPTURES AND ARTWORK. PUBLIC
ART IS ANOTHER GOOD CPTED
PRINCIPAL. ADDICTS RIDGES
GRAFFITI, ESPECIALLY IF THE
ARTWORK IS DONE BY A LOCAL
ARTIST. THEY'VE GOT A MURAL
THAT WILL BE ON THE STAIRWELL
THAT WILL BE DONE BY A LOCAL
ARTIST. IT IS GREAT. IT IS AN
ACTIVITY GENERATOR. IT IS A
LOCAL ART FOCAL POINT AS WELL.
>> WHEN I LOOK AT THE CITY OF
GRAND RAPIDS, THEY HAVE A CPTED
ORDINANCE THAT THEY SPELL OUT
WHAT IT IS AND WHAT THEY INTEND
THE ORDINANCE TO DO. VIRGINIA
CONNECTS SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES
PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR AND
MORE NEWLY REMODELED
CONSTRUCTIONS. IT HAS TO BE
REVIEWED BY SOMEBODY WHO HAS GOT
EXPERTISE IN DESIGN. SOMETHING
ELSE TO LOOK AT THAT. IS IT
GOING TO BE SUBMITTING PLANS?
THOSE PLANS WILL BE LOOKED AT BY
SOMEBODY WHO HAS A CPTED
BACKGROUND.
>> NOW, WE ARE GETTING INTO MORE
OF THE REQUIREMENTS? THE THICK?
>> YES.
>> WE'VE GOT OUR EXPERTS HERE.
DO THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES --
ARE THEY GETTING IT RIGHT WITH
TIMING? DO WE ALSO NEED TO BE
INCLUDING INCENTIVES? I FEEL THE
REAL -- I MEAN, THIS IS REAL,
BECAUSE I SEE IT ALL THE TIME.
ANY ADDITIONAL REVIEW OR
CONVERSATIONS CAN REALLY CREATE
A BACKLOG. IF WE HAD 802,000
COUNCILMEMBER MARK SOLOMON'S,
WE COULD HAVE ALL OF THE TIME IN
THE WORLD. I GET A LITTLE
WORRIED ABOUT THE BOTTLENECKS.
JUST AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH
THESE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES,
HELPING ME BETTER UNDERSTAND
WHERE DID THEY GET IT RIGHT?
WHERE DID THAT CREATE AN
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE AND THEN
THE SECONDARY QUESTION OF
WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE
CONSULTATION OR MEETING CERTAIN
CODES , WHAT IS NEEDED FROM
THERE? IS IT JUST PURE HEIGHT?
IS IT NOTHING? IS IT FOR AREA
RATIO? HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW I
CAN BE HELPFUL.
>> I WOULD THINK THAT -- FOR US,
AS MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING THE
LIST BUT NOT NECESSARILY
INCLUDING IT AS AN ACTUAL
ELEMENT OF THE REVIEW PROCESS,
THAT IS A STARTING POINT. EVEN A
CHECK THAT YOU HAVE REVIEWED THE
CHECKLIST, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT IT IS OUT THERE. IT IS
IN THE HANDS OF MULTIFAMILY
DEVELOPERS. OR SOMETHING LIKE
SCHOOL, YOU NEED TO GO TO A
THERAPIST OR PROJECTS THAT ARE
RISKING LOSING FUNDING. MAYBE IT
IS A DIFFERENT PROCESS.
>> THAT IS REALLY HELPFUL. I
JUST THINK OF THE BALLBRARY. TH
ONTO IT AND THE STRANGE THING,
THEY PUT A GLASS WALL NEXT TO
THE DOOR. IT IS SO BAD THAT YOU
CAN FIND THE DOOR. BEYOND ALL OF
THE OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES
THAT IT CREATES, THEY LITERALLY
HAD TO PUT A SANDWICH BOARD OUT
NOW BECAUSE I WAS HAVING TO
DIRECT PEOPLE FROM MY FISHBOWL
OFFICE. I THINK YOUR INCLUSION
OF PUBLICLY FUNDED PROJECTS, OR
ESPECIALLY CITY BUILDING FOR
SCHOOLS, THAT IS HELPFUL. THANK
YOU.
>> THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO
SOME OF THE THINGS WHERE WE HAVE
SEEN SOME EXAMPLES FROM OTHER
MUNICIPALITIES AND I WANT TO
SHOW A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT
ARE RIGHT HERE. THERE ARE
REPORTING JURISDICTIONS IN
WASHINGTON STATE THAT HAVE CPTED
SOMEWHERE IN CODE . HERE ARE
SOME EXAMPLES FROM CITY OF
SEATAC . AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE
PURPOSE OF 17. IT CREATES
STANDARDS THAT ADDRESS CPTED AND
THAT SHOULD APPLY TO ALL
LAND-USE CATEGORIES. THEY ARE
SAYING THIS TIME I WILL SHOW IT
ONLY APPLIED INCLUDING BUILDINGS
WITH HEIGHT IMPROVEMENTS.
WALLACE SUGGESTS THAT
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SHOULD
-- A LOT OF WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT
IN TERMS OF WHAT -- IT IS
CHAPTER 19, ADOPTING GUIDELINES
IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAND-USE
POLICIES, IN ACCORDANCE WITH
CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH
ENVIRONMENTAL GUIDELINES. HERE
IS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT
GUIDELINES. WE ARE LOOKING AT
IMPLEMENTING SOME TYPE OF --
HERE'S WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT
REQUIRING. JUST AS I MENTIONED,
THAT OWNERSHIP, THAT REALLY IS
ABOUT THAT TERRITORIALITY.
TERRITORIALITY IS A SENSE OF
OWNERSHIP. IT GOES ON TO
HIGHLIGHT WHERE IT WILL BE USED,
INCORPORATING DESIGN FEATURES
AND WHY? WHAT IS THE RATIONALE
FOR INCORPORATING THESE ELEMENTS
INTO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING?
BECAUSE YOU CAN READ, I WON'T
READ THROUGH EVERY LINE.
>> LORI, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS
MORE. WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE
THINGS, THEY ARE ALL -- WHEN YOU
ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING
ENCOURAGED TO OR HAVING IT,
GOING THROUGH A CHECKLIST, BEING
GIVEN A CHECKLIST AT THE
BEGINNING OF IT AND THE
EXPECTATION THAT ONE WILL HAVE
BROUGHT ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO
WITHIN THAT CHECKLIST IS VERY --
A GREAT START. WHAT WE HAVE
FOUND IS IF YOU HAVE THINGS THAT
REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO GO OVER THEM
OR IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE --
IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE REVIEWS
OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE
IMPLEMENTED THINGS, IT IS VERY,
VERY COSTLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE
SUCH MASSIVE TIME LAGS HERE. YOU
WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF
A RAPID IMPLEMENTATION THAT
WOULD NOT TAKE US AS BACKWARDS
INTO MAKING THE PROJECT SO
EXPENSIVE.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION
BEFORE?
>> CIRCLING BACK, THE DESIGN
REVIEW GUIDELINES, THAT DOES
GIVE THE DIRECTOR THE AUTHORITY
TO APPROVE, MODIFY, OR DESIGN
PROPOSALS IN THIS PROCESS? THE
DIRECTOR NOW HAS THE ABILITY TO
APPROVE, MODIFY, OR DENY A
PROJECT, HAVING THE REQUIREMENTS
BE IN ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE
DIRECTOR CAN EXERCISE THAT
HAMMER. WHAT I LIKE TO EMPHASIZE
IS THE INCENTIVE AS HAS BEEN
MENTIONED. THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER. THEY
BASICALLY SAY IF THEY HAVE PLANS
TO SUBMIT, SUBMIT IT WITH THE
PLANS. THEY HAVE PROVIDED
WRITTEN GUIDANCE AS THE KIND OF
THING THEY ARE LOOKING OR. THIS,
I BELIEVE, IT LEADS TO THE COPY
OF THE CHECKLIST. I HAVE
DEVELOPED A DRAFT CHECKLIST FOR
THE CITY OF SEATTLE THAT IS
EXTREMELY COMPREHENSIVE. IT IS
NOT -- BASICALLY IT IS A MASTER
CHECKLIST. IT APPLIES TO A
PARKING GARAGE, A SCHOOL, A
CHURCH, OPEN PHASE. IS THIS YES?
IS THIS SNOW? RATHER THAN HAVING
SEVEN DIFFERENT CHECKLISTS,
HAVING JUST ONE WEAR WHATEVER
APPLIES, YOU FILL THAT PORTION
OUT. WHAT I HAVE SEEN ANOTHER
CITY IN AUBURN, THEY HAD A POINT
SYSTEM WHERE IF YOU MEET CERTAIN
CPTED GUIDELINES, AND FOR AUBURN
TO ONLY APPLY FOR CANNABIS
RETAILERS. IF THE PLAN MEETS
THOSE PARTICULAR CPTED
GUIDELINES, THEY GET POINTS
ADDED FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
FOR THE CITY OF BELLEVUE, CPTED
REALLY ONLY APPLIES IN THEIR
CODE TOWARD HOMELESS SHELTERS.
DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES APPLIED
IN DIFFERENT WAYS. IT IS A
DATABASE I CAN ACCESS THE SHOWS
WHICH JURISDICTIONS IN WHICH
CITIES -- SEES ME, WHICH STATES,
ACTUALLY HAVE CPTED IN CODE AND
CAN POINT YOU DIRECTLY TO THAT
CODE. WE DO HAVE THE RESOURCES
WE CAN LOOK AT AND DRAW FROM. WE
ARE NOT RE-CREATING THE WHEEL.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT
ARE ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM LIKE
SEATAC, LIKE FEDERAL WAY, LIKE
LOOKING THAT AS MODELS ITSELF
FOR OUR OWN. HERE IS WHERE I AM
LOOKING AT. ONE PROPOSED LIST,
SIMILAR TO TAMPA THAT EXPRESSES
4%. IT IS THE WAY OF REDUCING
CRIME. THAT CONTINUES LANGUAGE
SIMILAR TO ANY PLANS THAT WILL
BE REVIEWED. SOMEBODY WHO HAS A
CPTED LENS HAS TO BE LOOKING AT
THAT. NOW, YOU MAY BE THINKING
THAT THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF
PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE THESE
EXPERTISE AND I WOULD SAY THAT
THERE ARE. THERE ARE A LOT TO
HAVE THESE AS MENTIONED. MY
COLLEAGUES FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT HAVE FOLKS IN THE
PARKS DEPARTMENT. I HAVE HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME TRAINING
WORK IN THE WASHINGTON
DEPARTMENT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT
AND A LOT OF THEM ARE IN
CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTION.
THEY ARE AWARE OF CPTED AND
GETTING FOLKS TRAINED UP AND
HAVING SOMEBODY WITH THAT LENS
LOOK AT THIS ALONG WITH THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT AND EVERY OTHER
DEPARTMENT, THAT IS BASICALLY
WHAT WE ARE SAYING. THEY ARE
GOING TO REVIEW IT ANYWAY,
LET'S JUST MAKE SURE SOMEBODY
WITH A CPTED LENS IS LOOKING AT
IT AS WELL.
>> ALSO, LOOKING AT GUIDELINES
FOR WHAT WE HAVE IN FEDERAL WAY
THAT PROVIDES THAT GUIDANCE,
WHAT IS THAT CHECKLIST? IF YOU
WANT ME TO BE CONSIDERING THIS,
WHAT IS THE STUFF YOU WANT ME TO
CONSIDER? THAT IS WORTH COMING
UP WITH THE CHECKLIST. MAKE IT
EASY. DON'T MAKE IT GUESSWORK.
WHEN WE LOOK AT PLANS FOR
DEVELOPERS OR NITZE-STAGEN, WHEN
I ASK A QUESTION, THEY SAY, WE
DID NOT THINK ABOUT THAT . THAT
IS WHY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE
WORDED BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO
START THINKING ABOUT THAT, AS
HEAD OF TIME. ONE QUESTION THAT
HAS COME UP FOR ME WAS, FIRST
RESPONDER ACCESS INTO BUILDINGS
THAT ARE LOCKED OUT. NOW, FIRE
HAS A LOCKBOX. THEY CAN GET INTO
ANY BUILDING. POLICE DON'T HAVE
ACCESS TO THE FIRE LOCKBOX. I
HAVE HEARD FROM SO MANY OFFICERS
WHO HAVE SAID, I TRIED FOR A
RESPONSE TO THIS ADDRESS BUT I
COULD NOT GET INTO THE BUILDING.
EVEN IF I COULD GET INTO THE
BUILDING -- IT IS FATHER ACCESS
ONLY. I COULD NOT GET TO THE
FLOOR. I COULD NOT GET IN THE
ELEVATOR. I COULDN'T GET INTO
THE STAIRWELL. THEY ARE
RESPONDING TO A HOSTILE PERSON
WITH AN AX IN THE STAIRWELL AND
THEY CAN GET TO THEM. THEY ARE
RESPONDING TO A DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE SITUATION ON THE FOURTH
FLOOR AND THEY CAN GET THERE
WITHOUT THE PERSON LETTING THEM
UP. ABB NOT BREATHING, AGAIN,
OFFICERS RESPONDING BUT THE
PEOPLE WHO CALLED OR NOT ABLE TO
LET THEM IN BECAUSE THEY ARE
DEALING WITH THE CRISIS IN THAT
UNIT. AGAIN, OFFICERS CANNOT GET
IN THE BUILDING. THEY CANNOT GET
UP THE ELEVATORS AND THEY CANNOT
GET TO THE FLOOR WHERE NEEDED.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS
WORK WITH THESE BUILDINGS TO
PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT SPECIFIC
ACCESS, USUALLY IN THE FORM OF
BOB'S -- FOBS. THEY WILL DO A
RECESSED BOX THAT HAS A KEYCODE
, MULTIPLE FOBS IN THAT BOX SO
THAT THE INITIAL RESPONDING
OFFICER CAN GET A FOB , GAIN
UNIVERSAL ACCESS TO THAT
BUILDING, GET INTO THE
STAIRWELL, ELEVATORS, GO TO
WHATEVER FLOOR THEY NEED AND IF
THEY NEED BACKUP, THEY CAN CALL
FOR ANOTHER OFFICER AND THAT
OFFICER CAN, AND YOU GIVE THEM
THAT SAME CODE BECAUSE THE CODE
WOULD BE MARRIED TO THAT ADDRESS
IN THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH
SYSTEM. IF OFFICER A NEEDS
BACKUP, OFFICER B CAN SHOW UP,
GET A CAR, GET A FOB TO RESPOND
TO BACK THAT OFFICER WITHOUT
HAVING THAT INITIAL OFFICER
DISENGAGE. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
DO THAT WITH A NUMBER OF
BUILDINGS IN D 2 AND AGAIN,
SOMETHING THAT WE WANT THESE
BUILDINGS TO CONSIDER,
ESPECIALLY THE MULTIFAMILY
BUILDINGS WHERE YOUR FOB WILL
ONLY GET YOU INTO THE COMMON AND
TO YOUR FLOOR, PERIOD. WE HAVE A
NUMBER OF BUILDINGS LIKE THAT IN
THE SOUTHEND. WE HAVE HAD TO
WORK CLOSELY WITH THOSE
BUILDINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN
OFFICERS ARE RESPONDING TO
SOMETHING AND WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT LIFE SAFETY STUFF,
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, A HOMELESS
PERSON, THEY CAN GAIN ACCESS TO
A BUILDING AND GET TO WHERE THEY
NEED TO GO TO RENDER THAN AID.
SO, THAT WAS A LOT. ARE THERE
QUESTIONS? AND I AM SURE THERE
ARE.
>> WHERE DID YOU FIND THAT
PHOTO?
>> I HAVE BEEN ASKING THAT A
LOT. I GUESS I WILL JUST KEEP
TALKING. IT REALLY IS A QUESTION
OF HOW, WHEN DO WE REQUIRE OR
INCENTIVIZE -- I JUST THINK
COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON, HERE WE
ARE HAVING A PRIVATE MEETING IN
PUBLIC, RIGHT? WHAT ARE THE NEXT
STEPS? DO WE CREATE A PILOT? DO
WE CREATE REQUIREMENTS FOR
PUBLICLY OWNED BUILDINGS LIKE
WHEN YOU COMMUNITY CENTER ? GRE
LAKE COMMUNITY CENTER AND
RAINIER BEACH WERE SUPPOSED TO
BE BUILT AT THE SAME TIME.
RAINIER BEACH WENT INTO PHASE
ONE BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH
SPACE FOR BOTH OF THEM. NOW,
GREEN LAKE IS UP AND LUCKILY WE
ARE NOT AT 30% DESIGN BUT I AM
SUDDENLY REALIZING THAT IF I AM
NOT THERE TO REQUIRE IT, ARE
THEY GOING TO GO THROUGH A
CHECKLIST AND THEN ARE WE GOING
TO END UP CLOSING ONE OF THE
DOORS FOREVER? I JUST HAD TO
THINK ABOUT THE FUNCTIONAL NEXT
STEPS FOR HERE . HOW DO WE
ENSURE IT IS NOT JUST A
PRESENTATION ON JUNE 18, 2025.
HOW ARE WE MAKING LASTING
IMPRINTS?
>> THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS IS IF
WE DO NOTHING ELSE, LET'S START
WITH THE STUFF THE CITY OWNS,
WHETHER IT IS A COMMUNITY CENTER
OR A LIBRARY. THERE ARE SO MANY
CPTED RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE MULTIPLE
TIMES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
FOLLOWED THROUGH ON. IF WE HAD,
WE WOULD HELP ADDRESS THE CRIME
GOING ON. WHEN I LOOK AT
JEFFERSON PARK, I HAD A CHANCE
TO REVIEW THOSE PLANS FOR GRAVEL
THAT WAS BROKEN. I WAS ABLE TO
SAY LET'S LOOK AT THE PLAY AREA
THIS WAY SO THAT OFFICERS
DRIVING BY CAN SEE INTO IT. SO,
SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
>> TO ME, WHAT HAS TO BE DONE
EARLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE IS
WHEN THERE IS STILL TIME TO MAKE
THOSE CHANGES. MY GUT SAYS -- I
AM JUST SPEAKING 60%. MAYBE
THERE IS STILL TIME TO DO
SOMETHING BUT AT THAT POINT, IT
WILL BE -- IF WE ARE TRYING TO
LOOK AT IT AT THE CONTACT PHASE,
LIKE, WE WANT TO DO X, GREAT.
HERE IS A CHECKLIST FOR YOU.
EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS THE
BETTER AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT A
WAY TO INCENTIVIZE THIS. DO WE
OFFER INCREASED -- DO WE AWARD
POINTS? HERE IS THE THING THAT
IS REALLY -- IN SOME WAYS VERY
FRUSTRATING FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN
GO TO ANY COMPANY. I CAN GO TO
LISA OR WHOEVER AND SAY HERE IS
MY RECOMMENDATION. THEY DON'T
HAVE TO DO IT. DO WE GET IT TO
THE POINT WHERE WE ARE SAYING,
YOU WILL? THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE
SAYING WE DON'T WANT THAT .
THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT LANGUAGE
TO USE. PLEASE CONSIDER AS
OPPOSED TO YOU WILL. WE CAN BE
IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. CPTED
WILL BE INCORPORATED . IT
DOESN'T SAY WHAT THE OR ELSE IS
. THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER
JURISDICTIONS WHERE IT IS JUST
HIGHLY ENCOURAGED OR THE OTHER
JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY
CONSIDER THESE THINGS AND WHAT I
AM LOOKING AT FOR US IS ADOPTING
PHILOSOPHIES , GIVE SOMETHING TO
THOSE DEVELOPERS THAT THEY CAN
GO BY TO LOOK AT AND THEN HAVE
SOMEBODY THAT HAS HAD THE KIND
OF TRAINING THAT I DO TO LOOK AT
THE STUFF. AT THE SAME TIME,
EVERYONE ELSE IS PUTTING THEIR
NOSE IN THE FAN AND IT BECOMES
THE CAPACITY TO MAKE SURE WE
HAVE ENOUGH TRAINED PERSONNEL IN
THE CITY SYSTEM TO MAKE IT
HAPPEN, TO MAKE THAT PROCESS
SEAMLESS, THAT IS EASY ENOUGH TO
DO. IT IS EASY ENOUGH TO GET A
GOOD AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TRAINED
UP.
>> I AM ALMOST SEEING THE
REQUIREMENT THAT SOMEBODY
RECEIVES THE CHECKLIST LIKE YOU
WERE SAYING. COULD IT BE A
CHECKED BOX ON THE APPLICATION,
RECEIVED AND REVIEWED? THAT
BEING THE FIRST ROUND IN THE
PILOT TO THEN THE SECOND STEP
BEING INCENTIVE FOR MEETING A
CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE
REQUIREMENTS AND THOSE
INCENTIVES CAN BE FILL IN THE
BLANK?
>> YOU CAN ALSO COME BACK TO US
LATER. WE JUST HAPPEN TO BE HERE
TODAY.
>> WHAT YOU MENTIONED IS EXACTLY
IT, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE
IN THE CITY. ADDITIONAL HEIGHT.
THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SORTED
OUT. ABSOLUTELY. THAT KIND OF
COULD HAVE SOME REAL VALUE.
>> THE THIRD PIECE BEING THE
REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLICLY OWNED
BUILDINGS. I WOULD HESITATE ONLY
BECAUSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PROJECTS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE
ONLY PUBLICLY FUNDED PROJECT AND
I DON'T WANT TO CREATE THE SAME
ROADBLOCK BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
THEY NEED TO HAVE A HIGHER
THRESHOLD OF ENGAGEMENT SO MAYBE
THE PUBLICLY FUNDED ONE IS WHERE
WE DIG IN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF
PUBLICLY OWNED BUILDINGS. WE ADD
A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TIERS SO
WE CAN TEST THE PILOT OUT SO WE
ARE MINIMIZING THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES. FOR ANYONE
WATCHING ON THE SEATTLE CHANNEL,
WE ARE LITERALLY JUST TALKING
THIS OUT SO DON'T HOLD ANY OF
US TO ANY OF THIS.
>> I WOULD ALSO FOLLOW SEATAC
AND NOT REQUIRE THIS FOR
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES. I
WOULD EXEMPT -- PRETTY MUCH WE
WOULD EXEMPT ANYTHING UNDER 20
UNITS, TO REQUIRE THAT THEY GO
THROUGH THIS KIND OF CHECKLIST
SETTING.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> I WILL CHIME IN OVER HERE.
POLICIES HAVE BEEN A LITTLE
QUIET ON THIS BECAUSE I AM
TRYING TO DIGEST MYSELF. THANK
YOU FOR WALKING US THROUGH THIS
AND TRYING TO IN REAL TIME
UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE OF THIS
APPROACH AND EXECUTION YOU ARE
BRINGING TO THIS. I HAVE A
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE BECAUSE
YOU BROUGHT UP THIS AND WHY YOU
WOULD WANT TO EXEMPT
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES FROM THIS? I
JUST WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND.
>> WHY WOULD I EXEMPT
SINGLE-FAMILY? AS THE
SEATAC ORDINANCE THAT SAYS YOU
SHOULD APPLY THESE PRINCIPLES
WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT
SINGLE-FAMILY, WE ARE JUST NOT
GOING TO REQUIRE IT. WHAT I AM
THINKING ABOUT IS, WHAT IS A
CITY BUILT? WHAT DOES THE CITY
OWN? THEN WE TALK ABOUT MULTI
FAMILY, WORKFORCE HOUSING WHERE
WE HAVE HAD SAFETY CONCERNS
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THINGS
HAVE BEEN DONE. WE WANT YOU TO
CONSIDER THESE THINGS. DUPLEX,
TRIPLEX, NOT NECESSARILY GOING
TO HAVE THE SAME KIND OF
SECURITY. YES, I DO WANT YOU TO
HAVE GOOD, NATURAL VISIBILITY OF
YOUR WINDOW. I DO WANT YOU TO
HAVE GOOD ACCESS CONTROL. I DO
WANT THE PROPERTY WELL
MAINTAINED AND WELL IDENTIFIED
BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, DO I WANT
TO REQUIRE THAT AN INDIVIDUAL
HOMEOWNER OR SOMEONE WHO IS
DOING A DUPLEX OR A COUPLE OF
CALL -- COTTAGES, DO YOU WANT TO
REQUIRE THAT THEY FOLLOW THESE?
NOT NECESSARILY. I WANT TO
ENCOURAGE THEM TO? ABSOLUTELY.
>> THANK YOU FOR BREAKING THAT
DOWN FOR ME. I AM WONDERING --
SORRY. I AM LOSING MY VOICE.
SORRY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS. THANK YOU FOR
NITZE-STAGEN FOR BEING HERE
TODAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
EXPERTISE YOU ARE BRINGING TO
THE TABLE. I AM ALSO TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
PEER DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS ,
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THEIR
LEVEL OF FAMILIARITY WITH THIS
AS A CONCEPT OR THE WORK THAT
THEY HAVE DONE INCORPORATING
CPTED PRINCIPLES?
>> I HONESTLY -- IT IS SOMETHING
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT QUITE A
BIT. WE HAVE HAD ALL OF OUR
DESIGN TEAM MEET WITH
COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON FOR OUR
LAST FOUR OR FIVE PROJECTS . IT
IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE
TALK ABOUT IN OUR CIRCLE BUT I
CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OTHER
SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES
ARE INCORPORATING THIS PROCESS.
>> I DON'T HEAR IT TALKED ABOUT
SO I THINK THAT WE ARE SIMPLY
GETTING IT SO IT IS TALKED
ABOUT. THAT IS A BIG STEP
FORWARD IN THINKING THAT WAY.
AGAIN, STARTING WITH SOMETHING
AS SIMPLE AS A CHECKLIST. IT IS
NOT AN OBVIOUS WAY OF THINKING
FOR PEOPLE. IT MAKES INCREDIBLY
GREAT SENSE TO START THINKING
ABOUT IT.
>> AND IT IS VERY MANAGEABLE
ONCE YOU SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH
THIS LIST. IT IS NOT CONFUSING
IN ANY WAY BUT TO LISA'S POINT,
IT IS JUST MAYBE NOT OBVIOUS.
JUST HAVING IT OUT THERE AND
TALKED ABOUT.
>> THAT IS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL.
DEFINITELY FEEDBACK RECEIVED.
GETTING IT OUT THERE.
>> SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
I AM WONDERING -- THIS MIGHT BE
A QUESTION AS WE MOVE ALONG IN
THE PROCESS, QUESTION FOR
CENTRAL STAFF. I AM CURIOUS
ABOUT THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE WE
HAVE CURRENTLY WITHIN STC I ON
THIS MATTER. I AM NOT A THAT IS
A QUESTION YOU CAN ANSWER,
COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON BUT I AM
CURIOUS WHAT KIND OF CITY STAFF
EXPERTISE WE HAVE IN THIS AREA.
>> THE EXACT MEMBERS OF HOW MANY
STAFF ARE CPTED AWARE ? QUITE A
FEW. CERTIFIED? PROBABLY VERY
FEW. I WOULD SAY THAT YOUR
BIGGEST COHORT OF CPTED
CERTIFIED PRACTITIONERS IS
WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
WITH YOUR CRIME PREVENTION
COORDINATORS. SOME OF THE
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS HAVE
BEEN TRAINED IN CRIME PREVENTION
AND ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN THE
CLASS I DID IN TUMWATER A COUPLE
OF WEEKS AGO HAD A COUPLE
MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT WHO
CAME AND GOT THEIR
CERTIFICATIONS THERE AND I KNOW
OTHER PARK STAFF THAT ARE
CERTIFIED AS WELL. AGAIN,
GETTING FOLKS TRAINED UP,
CERTIFIED IS ACTUALLY PRETTY
EASY PROCESS AND NOT THAT
EXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN I
LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS
THROUGH THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE
OF CRIME PREVENTION WITH THE
AMERICAN CRIME PREVENTION
INSTITUTE OR EVEN A STATE CRIME
PREVENTION. ALL OF THOSE OFFER
CPTED CERTIFICATION PROBLEMS
THIS LAST QUESTION IS A MORE
HOLISTIC QUESTION. ON
PROJECTS LOOKING AT WAYS TO
IMPROVE SAFETY THROUGH
ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. I AM
WONDERING WHAT YOU THINK IS THE
MOST MISUNDERSTOOD ELEMENT ABOUT
THIS BODY OF WORK.
>> I THINK THAT YOU WOULD NEED
TO DO -- LIKE, MAKE SOME GRAND
CHANGES. INSTEAD, IT IS MORE ,
KIND OF, MICRO. LIKE, IT -- YOU
KNOW, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR
LIGHTING PLAN, BUT HAVE YOU
THOUGHT ABOUT THE NEXT STEP OF
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN 10 YEARS
WHEN YOUR VEGETATION HAS GROWN?
THAT IS JUST ONE LITTLE NOTCH
FURTHER. YOU KNOW, YOU OBVIOUSLY
HAVE LOCKS ON YOUR DOOR AND THE
ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM IN YOUR
BUILDING, BUT HAVE YOU ACCESS
CONTROLLED, YOU KNOW, THE --
LIKE, THE VESTIBULE DOORS? THE
STAIRWELL DOORS? IT IS REALLY
THINKING ONE STEP FURTHER. IT IS
NOT A MAJOR REDESIGN.
>> SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS
THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE GARAGE
DOOR , WITH THE PROJECT WE WERE
LOOKING AT, I WANT TO KNOW HOW
LONG IT TAKES TO OPEN, HOW LONG
IT TAKES TO CLOSE, AND THE LAG
TIME. I WANT TO PREVENT SOMEBODY
FROM EITHER TAILGATING ON FOOT
OR IN A VEHICLE BEHIND SOMEBODY
WHO IS JUST COMING IN. THERE IS
A BUILDING I REVIEWED JUST NORTH
OF UNIVERSITY BRIDGE WHERE THE
OPENING TIME OF THAT DART WAS,
LIKE, 1.3 SECONDS. THAT IS ALL
IT TOOK FOR IT TO OPEN. IT
STAYED OPEN LONG ENOUGH FOR A
CAR TO PASS ENCLOSED IN 1.3
SECONDS, AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY
HALL GARAGE, WHICH THE DOOR
TAKES, I DON'T KNOW, TWO OR
THREE HOURS TO OPEN. I MEAN, IT
JUST CHUGS ALONG. FAR TOO LONG
OF AN OPENING SPEED AND FAR TOO
LONG OF AN OPENING TIME. I WOULD
ACTUALLY LOOK AT REDUCING THE
TIME THAT DOOR STAYS OPEN.
REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT
TAKES FOR THE DOOR TO ACTUALLY
OPEN AND CLOSE TO PREVENT THOSE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE ILL INTENT ,
USUALLY BREAKING INTO
SOMEBODY'S CAR, FROM FALLING IN
BEHIND SOMEBODY. I HAVE SEEN
THAT HAPPEN IN THE JACKSON PLACE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOOD.
PEOPLE TAILGATING BEHIND SOMEONE
PULLING INTO THEIR CONDO.
>> WE ACTUALLY JUST INSTALLED A
GARAGE DOOR IN THE 900 RAINIER
PROJECT THAT IS INCREDIBLY FAST
AS A RESULT OF OUR
CONVERSATIONS. THE ADDITIONAL
COST IS SO MINIMAL, BUT IT IS SO
EFFECTIVE. THAT IS THE KIND OF
THING. THESE ARE SMALL CHANGES,
BUT THEY ARE REALLY IMPACTFUL.
>> OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTION.
THANK YOU. REALLY HELPFUL.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? OKAY.
GREAT. WITH THAT, I WANT TO
THANK MY COLLEAGUES --
COLLEAGUES , MY FRIENDS. I WANT
TO THANK MY FRIEND FOR COMING
AND BEING PART OF THIS
PRESENTATION . SHARING YOUR
EXPERTISE AND THOUGHTS AS THE
FOLKS THAT ARE BUILDING HOUSES
IN THIS COMMUNITY AS TO THE
BENEFITS OF CODIFYING CPTED,
WHAT SOME OF THE DRAWBACKS MAY
BE. WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE
YOUR EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA. I
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU
TO CRAFTING SOMETHING THAT WE
CAN GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
ASKING US. IT'S A PLEASURE TO
BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS KIND OF
STUFF TO TRY AND HAVE THE BEST
POSSIBLE DECISIONS MADE ABOUT
YOUR NEXT STEPS HERE. BUT IF YOU
WOULD LIKE ANY FURTHER , YOU CAN
CERTAINLY ASK SOME OF OUR PEERS
AS WELL TO REVIEW WHATEVER
PILOTS YOU COME UP WITH OR
THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> YEAH, I THINK THEY CALL THAT
STAKEHOLDERING. IS A NEW TERM I
HAVE LEARNED. I TAKE THAT AS
TALKING TO PEOPLE. SO YES, WOULD
LOVE TO HAVE FURTHER
CONVERSATIONS.
>> HAPPY TO HELP. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, LAURIE.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE REACHED THE
END OF THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY
FURTHER ITEMS FOR BUSINESS OR
DISCUSSION? OKAY. HEARING NONE,
I WILL CALL THE JANUARY --
EXCUSE ME, JUNE 18 COMMITTEE AT
THE LAND USE COMMITTEE TO AN
END. THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE
JULY 2 AT 2:00 P.M. AT 2:00 P.M.
WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, IT IS
3:34 P.M., AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYONE.