>>> SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
SELECT COMMITTEE OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL COME TO
ORDER. IT IS 11:03 ON THE DOT
AND I'M JOY HOLLINGSWORTH AND
THE CHAIR OF THE SELECT
COMMITTEE AND CLERK WILL YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL TODAY? [
ROLL CALL ]
>> EIGHT PRESENT.
>> AWESOME. EIGHT PRESENT. I
WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR
COMING. WE'RE GOING TO NOW
CONSIDER THE AGENDA. IF THERE'S
NO OBJECTIONS THE AGENDA WILL BE
ADOPTED. HEARING AND SEEING
NONE, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED.
TODAY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ONLY BE
ACCEPTING WRITTEN PUBLIC
COMMENT. THERE WILL BE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENT THIS
EVENING AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
5:00 P.M. WHERE WE'LL CONDUCT A
HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS
WITH IN-PERSON AND REMOTE PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD. PLEASE REFER TO
THE AGENDA TO GET RETAILS ABOUT
DIFFERENT START TIMES FOR
IN-PERSON AND REMOTE SPEAKERS
AND I'LL REMIND EVERYONE TODAY
WE'RE STARTING AT 5:00 P.M. FOR
IN-PERSON SPEAKERS FROM 5:00 TO
7:30. AND THEN WE WILL BE DOING
BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN HYBRID
CALLERS STARTING AT 7:30 WITH
THE REST OF OUR IN-PERSON
SPEAKERS AS WELL. WE ALSO WILL
HAVE CHILD CARE SERVICES HERE
FOR FOLKS THAT NEED IT AS WELL.
AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO
AHEAD AND JUMP INTO THE ITEMS OF
BUSINESS. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE
READ ITEM BUN INTO THE RECORD.
>> COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT PRESENTATION FOR
BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU. AND PRESENTERS
DIRECTOR RICO QUIRINDONGO.
MICHAEL FROM OFFICE OF PLANNING
AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, I
ALSO WANT THE THANK MY
COLLEAGUES COMING. I KNOW WE GOT
A LITTLE SNOW TODAY AND IN
SEATTLE AS WE LAUGH AT FOLKS IN
SOMETIMES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
WHEN THEY GET RAIN AND SOMETIMES
DON'T KNOW HOW THE DRIVE, I'M
PRETTY SURE PEOPLE BACK EAST
LAUGH AT US WHEN WE GET SNOW
HERE IN SEATTLE. WITH THE COUPLE
OF INCHES OF SNOW. BUT SOME OF
THIS REMINDS ME OF WHILE WE'RE
GETTING SET UP AT THE TABLE.
REALLY BLESSED TO HAVE GREAT
METEOROLOGISTS LIKE RICH
MARRIOTT. BUT IT REMINDS ME OF
STEVE POOLE AND HE WOULD SEE
EVERYONE AT THE GROCERIES
GETTING -- GETTING STUFF BECAUSE
STEVE POOLE WOULD SMELL SNOW IN
THE AIR AND HE WOULD ALWAYS
PREDICT IT RIGHT ON TIME. WITH
THE FRESHEST SHARPEST HAIRLINE
IN HISTORY. AND SO JUST -- HE
WILL BE MISSED. STEVE POOLE. AND
ALSO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF TOO
AS WELL ON THE SECOND FLOOR WHO
HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL IN OUR
SECURITY AND EVERYONE WHO IS
CONTINUING TO KEEP OUR CITY
RUNNING. WE SAW SNOW PLOWS OUT
LAST NIGHT. WE SAW PEOPLE, YOU
KNOW, EVERYWHERE. AND JUST --
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A GREAT AGENDA TODAY. SO
TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING
ABOUT THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
PROCESS THAT OPCD DID IN THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AS WELL. AND HOW
THEY INTEGRATED THAT INTO THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I KNOW THAT
WE ARE ALL EAGER TO HEAR ABOUT
HOW IT WAS INTEGRATED IN THE
PLAN AND CHANGES THAT WERE MADE
AND ALL THIS GOOD STUFF. AND
ALSO WOULD LIKE THE RECORD TO
REFLECT THAT COUNCILMEMBER RINCK
HAS JOINED US. THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. AND I
BELIEVE WE ARE READY AND MY
TEEING UP IS DONE. THANK YOU
DIRECTOR QUIRINDONGO AND
MICHAEL. WELCOME.
>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU ALL
FOR HAVING US THIS MORNING. WE
ARE -- PRESENTING TODAY SLIDE
DECK THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A
CHANCE TO PRESENT LAST TIME WE
WERE IN FRONT OF THE SELECT
COMMITTEE. WE'LL BE TALKING
ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT PHASING
OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF
YEARS. AND THE REPORTS THAT ARE
AVAILABLE ONLINE. THE DRAFT PLAN
COMMENTS AND HOW WE'VE INCOURTED
FEED -- INCORPORATED FEEDBACK SO
FAR INCLUDING THE ZONING UPDATE
COMMENTS THAT WE GOT IN OCTOBER
THROUGH DECEMBER. NEXT SLIDE. SO
WE'LL START BY JUMPING IN ON
OUR ENGAGEMENT PHASING AND
REPORTS AND I'LL TURN IT OVER
TO MICHAEL.
>> YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
EXCELLENT. SO BEFORE GETTING
INTO A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE HEARD
ESPECIALLY DURING SPRING AND
FALL OF 2024, WE JUST WANT TO
REFRESH YOUR KNOWLEDGE WITH AN
OVERVIEW OF THE OVERALL
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND WHERE
WHAT WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON TODAY
FITS IN WITH THE LARGER PROCESS.
TO START WITH AS WE BRIEFED THIS
COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 6th, OUR
OVERALL ENGAGEMENT WAS DIVIDED
INTO FOUR PHASES. AND EARLY
ENGAGEMENT DURING EARLY 2022
WHICH WE CALLED LISTEN AND
LEARN, FROM MID 2022 THROUGH
2023, A DEEPER EXPLORATION OF
ISSUES AND POTENTIAL POLICY
CHANGES AND GROWTH STRATEGY CON
CENTERS WHICH WE CALLED SHAPE
THE PLAN. AND THEN PHASE THREE
WHICH COMMENCE WITH THE RELEASE
OF FIRST ROUND DRAFT MATERIALS
IN SPRING OF LAST YEAR. WE HAD
OUR REVIEW AND REFINE PHASE
WHICH WE'LL BE GOING INTO MORE
DETAIL ON TODAY AS WELL WE'LL
BE GOING ON INTO MORE DETAIL ON
PHASE OUR WHICH HAPPENED JUST
THIS LAST FALL REMEMBER WHEN WE
RELEASED THE DRAFT ZONING
PROPOSALS. OFF OF THESE PHASES
WERE GUIDED BY THE GOALS YOU SEE
HERE ON THIS SLIDE. AND WE'LL
TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE
PRINCIPLES AND CONCEPT WHENCES
-- CONCEPTS WHEN TALKING ABOUT
THE ENGAGEMENT ITSELF. AT EACH
PHASE OF ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE
PROVIDED INFORMATION TO THE
PUBLIC BOTH ON THE FRONT END AND
THEN AT THE BACK END ABOUT THIS
PROCESS. THE ONE PIECE OF
DOCUMENTATION THAT WS THE TOE.
THE ENGAGEMENT SUMMARY REPORT.
THIS COVERS THE ENTIRETY OF THE
FOUR PHASES AND PROVIDES QUITE A
BIT OF DETAIL WHICH FOR YOUR
REFERENCE I MAY REFER YOU TO AS
WE GO THROUGH THE CONVERSATION
TODAY BUT ESPECIALLY WHAT WE PUT
OUT THERE IN TERMS OF MATERIALS.
LINKS TO ALL THE PUBLIC FACING
MATERIALS HAS LISTS OF ALL THE
MEETINGS AND THE STAKEHOLDERS WE
MET WITH. HAS DETAILS ABOUT THE
OPEN HOUSES AND OTHER MEETINGS
SOME OF OUR OUTREACH AND MEDIA
PUBLIC FACING MATERIALS. THAT'S
ALL INCLUDED IN THIS NEW SUMMARY
REPORT WHICH WE'VE JUST
RELEASED FOR THE WHOLE PROCESS.
WE IN 2022 AND 2023, WE POSTED
REPORT OUTS FROM OUR ENGAGEMENT
PROCESS THROUGH THAT TIME PERIOD
AND WE'RE POISED TO RELEASE FOR
THE LAST TWO PHASES FOR PHASE
THREE AND FOR PHASE FOUR. REPORT
OUTS ON WHAT WE HEARD IN 2024. I
WILL BE SUMMARIZING FOR YOU
TODAY WHAT WE HEARD IN THOSE TWO
PHASES. SO FIRST I'M GOING TO
GET -- WE'LL TAKE THESE ON ONE
AT A TIME AND TALK ABOUT SPRING
2024. WHERE WE TOOK IN PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THE DRAFT PLAN. AND
OTHER DRAFT MATERIALS. SO IN
MARCH OF 2024 WE -- OPCD
RELEASED THREE KEY DOCUMENTS.
ONE WAS THE DRAFT ONE SEATTLE
PLAN. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
UPDATE ITSELF. WHICH HIGHLIGHT
-- AND INCLUDED THE DRAFT GROWTH
STRATEGY. THE SECOND DOCUMENT
WAS THE DRAFT PROPOSAL FOR
UPDATING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
RESIDENTIAL ZONES. TO COMPLY
WITH HB 1110. THIS WAS AN EARLY
CONCEPT PIECE. T IT'S NOT THE
DRAFT LEGISLATION YET BUT IT HAD
A LOT OF THE DETAILS THAT
APPEARED IN THE FINAL DRAFT
LEGISLATION ITSELF AND FINALLY
THE DRAFT EIS. I WANT TO PAUSE
HERE AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S
A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE
SAY DRAFT GROWTH STRATEGY, WHAT
DO THE PUBLIC SEE AND WHAT DID
THEY HAVE TO REACT TO AND
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON IN
SPRING OF LAST YEAR? THE MAP ON
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE DRAFT
GROWTH STRATEGY MAP THAT WAS
AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. IT ALSO
HAD THE LARGER GROWTH STRATEGY
ELEMENT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN THAT WAS AVAILABLE IN
DRAFT. AND IN TOTAL, IT SHOWED
THE LOCATION AND SIZE OF THE NEW
PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS.
FOR EXAMPLE. IT SHOWED THE
APPROXIMATE AREAS FOR EXPANSIONS
OF EXISTING CENTERS. IT SHOWED
THE FREQUENT TRANSIT ROUTES THAT
WERE PROPOSED FOR POTENTIALUP
ZONES AND IT HAD POLICIES THAT
DESCRIBED WHAT TYPES OF USES AND
THE HEIGHTS AND INTENSITY OF
DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WOULD BE
ENVISIONED FOR EACH OF THE
YEARS. NOT THE AS DETAILED AT
THE ZONING MAP BUT IT PROVIDED
LOT OF INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC
AT THAT TIME AND THE DRAFT
PROPOSAL FOR HB 1110 AS NOTED
HAD A LOT OF THE INFORMATION
YOU'D HAVE IN A ZONING CODE. IT
TALKED ABOUT THE PROPOSED
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND JUST
IN BROAD CONCEPTS WHAT THE NEW
ZONING CODE WOULD -- WOULD BE
INTENDED TO ACCOMPLISH. IT WOULD
HAVE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS. WE
DESCRIBED AN INCENTIVE FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THERE WAS AT
THAT TIME ALSO A PROPOSAL TO SET
ASIDE AREAS THAT WERE AT HIGHER
RISK OF DISPLAITMENT FOR A LOWER
DENSITY UNDER HOUSE BILL 1110
AND WE ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
ON THIS. WE PROVIDED MORE DETAIL
TO YOU OWN JANUARY 6th AND I
WANT TO REMIND YOU ON SOME OF
THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT WE DID
DURING SPRING OF 20224 TO REACH
OUT TO THE PUBLIC. WE HAD EIGHT
OPEN HOUSES OVER 1500
PARTICIPANTS IN THE OPEN HOUSES
AND THEY WERE IN LOCATIONS
ACROSS THE CITY AND WE HAD THE
ONLINE OPTION AS WELL. AND WE
WERE -- ENCOURAGED AND, YOU
KNOW, PLEASED WITH A LOT OF THE
ATTENDANCE AND TALKING TO THE
PUBLIC AND THE OPEN HOUSES, BUT
WE ALSO REALIZED AT THAT TIME
THAT WE DIDN'T APPEAR THAT WE
WERE HEARING FROM LOT OF
RESIDENTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS
ACROSS THE CITY. THERE ARE A LOT
OF ORGANIZATIONS AND FOLKS WHO
WERE FOLLOWING THE POLICY
PROCESS A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY
THAT WE JUST OBSERVED WERE
SHOWING UP AT THE OPEN HOUSES
MORE SO THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES
IN THE CITY. WE INTENTIONALLY
REACHED OUT TO COMMUNITY
COUNCILS AND OTHER COMMUNITY
BASED AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
AND HAD OVER 30MEETINGS DURING
THE SPRING OF WELL TO ENHANCE
OUR OUTREACH BEYOND THE OPEN
HOUSES. WE HAD A ROBUST ONLINE
PRESENCE AND ENGAGEMENT HUB WAS
OUR DEDICATED WEBSITE AND
ALLOWED TOOLS FOR PROVIDING
COMMENT AND ANOTHER WEBSITE WAS
THERE FOR THE DRAFT EIS STORY
MAP WEBSITE VERY USER-FRIENDLY.
AND THE COMMENT PERIOD LASTED
FOR 60 DAYS AND ACTUALLY MORE
THAN 60 DAYS FOR THE DRAFT PLAN
WE EXTENDED THE COMMENT PERIOD A
LITTLE BIT. WHO DID WE HEAR
FROM? WE RECEIVED NEARLY 6,000
COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT PLAN
INCLUDING WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM
OPEN HOUSES AND EMAILED COMMENTS
AND NEARLY 4,000 INDIVIDUAL
COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT PLAN
ITSELF. SOME PEOPLE -- IT
PROVIDED MORE THAN ONE COMMENT.
AND OF THAT NEARLY 4,000, THERE
ARE ABOUT 1200 INDIVIDUAL
COMMENTERS. WE ALSO RECEIVED
QUITE A NUMBER OF LETTERS FROM
ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THREE
LETTERS FROM COALITIONS
REPRESENTING NEARLY 100
ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN
INDIVIDUAL LETTERS FROM
ORGANIZATION -- FROM OVER 80
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS,
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS,
BUSINESS, THE ENVIRONMENT,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOUSERS, AND
HOUSING ADVOCATES AND OTHERS. SO
WHAT DID WE HEAR? AGAIN, THIS IS
IN SPRING OF 2024. IN RESPONSE
TO THE DRAFT PLAN. WELL, FIRST
WITH REGARD TO THE GROWTH
STRATEGY. WE HEARD GENERAL
STRONG SUPPORT FOR MORE HOUSING
AND PLAN PROVIDING FOR MORE
HOUSING ACROSS THE CITY. MORE
DIVERSE HOUSING CHOICES IN ALL
NEIGHBORHOODS AND MORE HOUSING
DENSITY NEAR TRANSIT AND THE
CONCEPT OF HOUSING AND MORE
COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH
HOUSING NEAR SHOPS, SERVICES,
AND AMENITIES THAT 15 MINUTE
CITY IDEA WHICH HAS BEEN
FLOATING AROUND AND NOW PEOPLE
TALK ABOUT CITY PLANNING LAST
SEVERAL YEARS, IS CERTAINLY A
CONCEPT THAT WE TRY TO ADVANCE
THROUGH THIS PLAN. GENERALLY, WE
HEARD FROM MOSTCOMMENTERS CALLS
FOR THE CITY TO DO MORE. LIKED
WHAT THEY SAW AND ASKED US TO DO
MORE AND THERE WERE SPECIFIC
CALLS FOR PLAN TO INCLUDE MORE
REGIONAL AND URBAN CENTERS.
THERE WERE CALLS FOR THE PLAN TO
INCLUDE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTERS. I'LL REMIND YOU THE
DRAFT HAD 24 NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTERS IDENTIFIED AS A
PROPOSAL. AND WE ALSO HEARD
COMMENTS URGING US IN THE GROWTH
STRATEGY AROUND THOSE TRANSIT
CORRIDORS TO EXTEND BEYOND JUST
THE BLOCKS FACING THE CORRIDORS
TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITY, MORE HOUSING ON
QUIETER STREETS, AND MORE
HOUSING IN MORE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WE HEARD THREE MAIN TYPES OF
THINGS WE WERE ASKED TO DO MORE
OF. ON MIDDLE HOUSING, WE HEARD
GENERAL STRONG SUPPORT@CONCEPT
OF MIDDLE HOUSING AND
ACKNOWLEDGMENT THERE WAS NEW
STATE REQUIREMENT AND WE
RECEIVED MANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS
ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS AND OTHER DETAILS IN
OUR INITIAL PROPOSAL. ESPECIALLY
TO START WITH, THE PROPOSAL TO
HAVE LOWER DENSITY IN AREAS OF
HIGHER RISK OF DISPLACEMENT. WE
GENERALLY HEARD OPPOSITION TO
THAT CONCEPT. THERE WAS AN
EXPRESS DESIRE FOR -- ALL
NEIGHBORHOODS NEEDED MORE
HOUSING SUPPLY AND MORE
AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP
OPPORTUNITIES AND OTHER BENEFITS
OF THE NEW MIDDLE HOUSING
PROVISIONS SHOULD BE EXTENDED TO
ALL NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE
PROPERTY OWNERS IN ALL
NEIGHBORHOODS DESERVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN THEIR
PROPERTY TO ADD HOUSING. WE
HEARD A VERY STRONG CALL FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ALLOW
MORE FLOOR AREA ON A SITE. THE
ORIGINAL PROPOSAL INCLUDED A
FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT'S THE
DEVELOPMENT STANDARD THAT SETS
THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FLOOR IN NEW
DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS ORIGINALLY A
0.9 F. A. R.. THE STATE MODEL
CODE WAS ACTUALLY LEASED JUST
AFTER WE RELEASED THE DRAFT PLAN
AND SET A HIGHER EXPECTATION FOR
CITIES OF A 1.2 F. A. R.. AND WE
RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT
THAT OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL 0.9
WOULD HAVE BEEN A CONSTRAINT ON
NEW DEVELOPMENT, MEANING WE
WOULD PROBABLY SEE LESS MIDDLE
HOUSING AND WOULD RESULT IN
SMALLER UNITS AND THERE WAS AN
EXPRESS DESIRE FOR MORE HOUSING
UNITS THAT WERE LARGE ENOUGH FOR
FAMILIES. WE RECEIVED COMMENTS
SUGGESTING THAT REDUCING
SETBACKS WOULD HELP ENCOURAGE
MORE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THE
NEW NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL
ZONE. WE HEARD COMMENTS IN
SUPPORT OF STRONG INCENTIVES FOR
STACKED FLATS. THE ORIGINAL
PROPOSAL DID NOT HAVE A SEPARATE
SET OF TREATMENT FOR STACKED
FLATS. THEY WERE SEEN AS A MORE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TYPE. ONE
THAT WAS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO
OLDER RESIDENTS TO YOUNG
CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES. BECAUSE THEY ARE
ONE -- SINGLE LEVEL UNITS
WITHOUT A LOT OF STAIRS. AND WE
WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT
WE COULD ENCOURAGE THAT THROUGH
THE PLAN AND THE ZONING IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AREA IN
PARTICULAR. AND ALSO SUPPORT FOR
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVE
I SHOULD SAY. AND FINALLY, WE
WERE -- RECEIVED A T
COMMENTS ABOUT PARKING AND
PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
SPECIFICALLY TO TAKE FURTHER
STEPS TO ELIMINATE OR REDUCE
PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THERE
WAS BROAD SUPPORT FOR THE CORNER
STORES WHICH ARE ALLOWED IN THE
MAYOR'S PLAN UNDER -- IN
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL. EVEN
FROM FOLKS WHO HAD TOOK ISSUE
WITH THE HIGHER HOUSING DENSITY
THE CORNER STORE CONCEPT WAS
VERY POPULAR BOTH IN THE SPRING
AND THEN LATER IN THE FALL. AND
EVEN WITH SOME CALLS FOR US TO
CONSIDER LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT
LITERALLY ON CORNERS. SO WHILE
WE WERE HEARING BROAD CALLS FOR
THE CITY TO DO MORE DURING THE
SPRING. WE WERE ALSO STARTING TO
HEAR CALLS ABOUT DENSITY. THIS
IS MUTED AND MORE QUIETER IN THE
SPRING AND BECAME I'D SAY MORE
PREVALENT CONCERN IN THE FALL
BUT WE STARTED TO HEAR CONCERNS
FROM RESIDENTS OF DIFFERENT
NEIGHBORHOODS, SPECIFICALLY
AROUND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF
NEW DEVELOPMENT AND DENSITY ON
TREES AND TREE CANOPY. WE HEARD
CONCERNS ABOUT LOSS OF OPEN
SPACE GENERALLY. WE HEARD VERY
SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT THE
LOCAL IMPACTS OF DENSER HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING SHADE AND
SOLAR ACCESS TO ADJACENT OR
NEARBY BUILDINGS. POTENTIAL
TRAFFIC. NOISE, OTHER IMPACTS.
WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT HISTORIC
RESOURCES AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS
AND WHAT ESPECIALLY WHAT THE NEW
MIDDLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS
MIGHT MEAN FOR HISTORIC
DISTRICTS. AND FINALLY, WE HEARD
CONCERNS ABOUT DISPLACEMENT
RISKS. COULD IN NEW DEVELOPMENT,
THE NEW DENSITY EXACERBATE
DISPLACEMENT IN THE CITY? WE DID
HEAR ABOUT OTHER COMPONENTS OF
THE PLAN AND I'M NOT GOING TO
GO INTO MUCH DETAIL ABOUT TOPICS
SUCH AS TRANSPORTATION AND PARKS
AND OPEN SPACE AND CLIMATE AND
RESILIENCE JUST TO PICK A FEW OF
THE PROMINENT TOPICS WE DID
FLARE THE PUBLIC ABOUT. BUT
FOLKS WERE INTERESTED IN TALKING
ABOUT THESE ISSUES. THEY WERE
INTERESTED IN GENERALLY AND
SUPPORTIVE OF THE CITY IS TRYING
TO DO WITH THE PLAN IN THESE
AREAS TO ENCOURAGE ALTERNATIVES
TO AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC AND
ENHANCED MOBILITY. TO PROVIDE
ACCESS TO OPEN SPACE AS WE GROW
AND BOTH REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS AND ALSO BE READY FOR
CLIMATE IMPACTS. AND WE GOT A
LOT OF VERY SPECIFIC IDEAS FROM
THE PUBLIC ON THOSE AND REALLY
WELCOMED THOSE. HOW DID WE USE
THE COMMENTS FROM THE SPRING? SO
WE CLOSED OUR COMMENT PERIOD IN
MAY OF 2024. WE DID WORK OVER
THE SUMMER TO REVISE THE GROWTH
STRATEGY AND AS WE BRIEFED THE
COMMITTEE ON INCREASED NUMBER OF
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS IN RESPONSE
TO PUBLIC COMMENT FROM 24 TO 30
IN TOTAL AND THERE WERE
ADDITIONAL AREAS FOR PROPOSED
EXPANSIONS TO REGIONAL AND URBAN
CENTERS ALSO RESPONSIVE TO SOME
OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD IN THE
SPRING. ON THE HOUSE BILL 1110
ZONING LEGISLATION, THERE WAS
SOME KEY CHANGES HERE WE DID
CHANGE THE ALLOWED F. A. R. FROM
0.9 TO 1.2 AGAIN CONSISTENT WITH
THE STATE MODEL CODE IN THAT
AREA. WE REMOVED THE TAILORED
APPROACH TO AREAS AT HIGH RISK
OF DISPLACEMENT. THERE WAS A NEW
INCENTIVE FOR STACKED FLATS
WHICH WE DESCRIBED TO YOU AS A
PREVIOUS MEETING. AND WE ARE
PROPOSING TO REDUCE THE PARKING
REQUIREMENTS ABOVE AND BEYOND
WHAT'S REQUIRED UNDER HOUSE
BILL 1110 BUT NOT TOTALLY
ELIMINATING PARKING REQUIREMENTS
IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY. AND
THERE'S REVISED POLICY LANGUAGE
IN A NUMBER OF THE ELEMENTS, THE
DOCUMENT THAT ACTUALLY IS THE
MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED PLAN DOES
HAVE SOME CHANGES IN THE POLICY
ELEMENTS AS WELL THAT WERE
INFORMED BY AND RESPONSIVE TO
PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I'M GOING TO
MOVE ON AND TALK ABOUT THE FALL
ENGAGEMENT. IN THE FALL, FOUR
DOCUMENTS WERE RELEASED FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT. SO WE -- MAYOR
WE DID THE DRAFT PLAN IN THE
SPRING. THE DRAFT EIS AND A
DRAFT HOUSE BILL 1110 ZONING
LEGISLATION. IN THE FALL, THE
ZONING LEGISLATION FOR MIDDLE
HOUSING OUR NEW NEIGHBORHOOD
RESIDENTIAL ZONE WAS REVISED AND
RELEASED AS A REPORT THAT
DESCRIBED THE APPROACH IN ITS
ACTUAL DRAFT LEGISLATION. WE
ALSO RELEASED DRAFT ZONING MAPS
THAT PROVIDED MORE DETAIL ON
PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGES AND
OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. AND
DRAFT LEGISLATION THAT WOULD
ACCOMPANY THE ZONING MAPS. IT'S
IMPORTANT HERE I WANT TO
EMPHASIZE AGAIN WHAT LEVEL OF
DETAIL. WHAT INFORMATION DID THE
PUBLIC HAVE TO RESPOND TO? SO
THE FIRST OF ALL, AS INFORMATION
TO INFORM THE PUBLIC, WE
RELEASED THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED
GROWTH STRATEGY IN SEPTEMBER AND
YOU SEE THAT MAP AT THE LEFT.
IT'S QUITE SIMILAR TO THE DRAFT
THAT WAS RELEASED IN THE SPRING.
BUT WITH MORE DEFINITION AROUND
BOUNDARIES, OF NEW NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTERS AND SOME OF THE
EXPANSION AREAS. AND HERE IN THE
-- IN THE FALL, ACCOMPANIED BY
OUR ZONING MAPS, WHICH YOU SEE
EXAMPLES AT RIGHT, THERE'S MORE
DETAIL ABOUT THE HEIGHTS AND
USES THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED IN
NEW ZONING WITHIN EACH OF THOSE
AREAS AND YOU SEE AN EXAMPLE OF
A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. A TRANSIT
CORRIDOR. AND AN EXPANSION THEIR
AROUND THE EXISTING CENTER. MORE
DETAILS RELEASED IN THE FORM OF
DRAFT ZONING MAPS THAT
ACCOMPANIED THE RELEASE OF THE
MAYOR'S PROPOSED GROWTH
STRATEGY AND YOU SEE THOSE
REPRESENTED ON THE SCREEN. SO WE
HAD A SIMILAR APPROACH TO
REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC. I
WOULD DESCRIBE IT AS MORE
INTENSIVE IN THE FALL. EVEN THAN
IN THE SPRING. WE HAD AN OPEN
HOUSE SERIES AND WE HAD SEVEN
OPEN HOUSES AND ONE IN EACH
COUNCIL DISTRICT. WE HAD THREE
DIFFERENT ONLINE OPEN HOUSE
EQUIVALENTS. WE ALSO HAVE MORE
ONLINE SESSIONS AS WELL. WE HAD
VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS AND THESE
WERE SEVERAL HOUR SESSIONS WHERE
THE PUBLIC COULD LOG IN AND TALK
TO STAFF AND GET THEIR QUESTIONS
ANSWERED. WE DID EIGHT OF THOSE
THROUGHOUT THE TWO MONTH
ENGAGEMENT PERIOD. WE HAD A
DEDICATED WEBSITE WITH
COMMENTING TOOLS. AND WE DID --
I WOULD SAY DID QUITE A BIT MORE
ADVERTISING AND GETTING THE WORD
OUT ABOUT OUR ENGAGEMENT IN THE
FALL INCLUDING PAID ADVERTISING
WITH VARIOUS MEDIA AND THERE ARE
RADIO SPOTS THAT RAN ON KOUW
DURING THIS PERIOD. IN THE
SPRING AND FALL IT'S WORTH
MENTIONING WE GOT A LOT OF
EARNED MEDIA COVERAGE. WE HAD
PROBABLY A HALF DOZEN SPOTS ON
PUBLIC RADIO FEATURING THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THESE WERE
FEATURED STORIES ABOUT DIFFERENT
COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN. WE HAD
TV NEWS COVERAGE. SEATTLE TIMES
AND OTHERS COVERED THE PROCESS.
THIS WAS REALLY HELPFUL IN
GETTING THE WORD OUT. BUT WE
ALSO PAID FOR ADVERTISING IN THE
FALL. WHO WE HEARD FROM? IT
LOOKED A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE
FALL THAN IN THE SPRING. I THINK
THERE WAS EVIDENT IF YOU
ATTENDED MID OF THE OPEN HOUSES,
AND HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS.
WE CONTINUED TO GET BROAD CITY
WISE APARTMENT BUT WE STARTED TO
HEAR MORE FROM RESIDENTS OF
AREAS THAT WERE PROPOSED FOR
ZONING CHANGES. WE RECEIVED OVER
9,000 COMMENTS DURING THE FALL
DURING THE 60 DAY COMMENT
PERICLUDED COMMENTS OUR ONLINE
YOU SEE AN IMAGE OF THIS AT THE
RIGHT WHERE PEOPLE COULD CLICK
ON A LOCATION AND PROVIDE VERY
SUBSTANTIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD OR THEIR BLOCK OAR
A STREET THEY WERE CONCERNED
ABOUT. WE HADED THE ONLINE FORUM
OF WAY TO SUBMIT A COMMENT
WITHOUT GOING TO THE TROUBLE OF
SENDING AN EMAIL BUT WE ALSO
RECEIVED NEARLY 2,000 EMAILS AS
WELL FROM MANY INDIVIDUALS
ACROSS THE CITY. THERE WERE
NEARLY 6,000 EWE MEEK COMMENTERS
DURING THIS PROCESS. THEN WE
CONTINUED TO RECEIVE LETTERS
FROM ORGANIZATIONS CITY-WIDE
COMMUNITY A RANGE OF INTERESTS
AND STAKEHOLDER CATEGORIES FROM
THOSE ORGANIZATIONS NEARLY 40
LETTERS ON THE FALL DRAFTS. SO
BRIEFLY, WHAT WE HEARD TO START
WITH REGARDING THE NEW
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND
RESPONSE TO THE HB 1110
REQUIREMENTS, WE -- EVEN FROM
PEOPLE WHO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT
THE DRAFT LEGISLATION. WE DID
HEAR GENERAL SUPPORT THAT WE
NEED MORE HOUSING IN THE CITY.
AND THAT THE KINDS OF HOUSING
THAT THE NEW AND MIDDLE HOUSING
REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATE
WOULD PROVIDE FOR WERE THE TYPES
OF HOUSING THAT THE CITY NEEDED.
ESPECIALLY FAMILY SIZED HOUSING
AND MORE AFFORDABLE HOME I'M
OPPORTUNITIES AND THERE WAS
BROAD RECOGNITION OF THAT BUT
THERE WERE SPECIFIC CONCERNS
ABOUT THE DRAFT LEGISLATION THAT
WE STARTED TO HEAR MORE SPECIFIC
FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT.
CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT. BULK
AND SCALE OF THE NEW MIDDLE
HOUSING HOMES.
CONCERNS ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL
OR HISTORIC CHARACTER OF
DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
ESPECIALLY ONES THAT HAD
NATIONAL OR LOCAL RECOGNITION
THOSE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
LIGHT AND SHADE IMPACTS. TRAFFIC
AND PARKING. AGAIN THIS IS IN
THAT MIDDLE HOUSING SCENARIO AND
THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE WOULD
HAVE MORE TYPES OF HOUSING
ALLOWED. CONCERNS ABOUT
INFRASTRUCTURE ESPECIALLY
STORMWATER WAS ONE THING THAT
CAME UP IN A LOT OF COMMENTS.
AND IMPACT ON TREES BOTH
EXISTING TREES CONCERNED THAT
THEY MIGHT BE REMOVED THROUGH
NEW DEVELOPMENT OR
REDEVELOPMENT, AND HOW MUCH
SPACE WE WERE PROVIDING FOR FOR
PLANTING NEW TREES. WE HAVE
HEARD I THINK FAIRLY EQUALLY
ABOUT THE TWO CONCERNS REGARDING
TREES. EVEN WHILE WE RECEIVED
THOSE COMMENTS OF CONCERN WE DID
ALSO CONTINUE TO HEAR STRONG
SUPPORT GENERALLY FOR THE CITY
HAVING A ROBUST RESPONSE TO
HOUSE BILL 1110. WHAT DID WE
HEAR ABOUT THE ZONING MAPS AND
THE PROPOSAL FOR THE REST OF THE
CITY? WE HEARD QUITE A LOT AND I
WOULD SAY THERE WAS MORE
FEEDBACK ON THIS COMPONENT THAN
ON THE HB1110 ZONING. WE HEARD A
VERY SIGNIFICANTLY AS I
MENTIONED FROM RESIDENTS OF THE
AREAS THAT WERE PROPOSED FOR
ZONING CHANGE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTERS ALONG THE TRANSIT
CORRIDOR, SOME OF THE EXPANSION
AREAS AROUND THE EXISTING
CENTERS. AND THEIR CONCERNS WERE
MANYDIFFERENT ISSUES AND TO
START WITH JUST REQUESTS TO
REMOVE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTERS OR TO GREATLY REDUCE THE
PROPOSED DENSITY IN AREAS THAT
WERE SEEN AS PROBLEMATIC FOR
THAT KIND OF CHANGE. BUT WE ALSO
HEARD SOME VERY SPECIFIC
COMMENTS AND CONCERNS AGAIN
ABOUT THE SCALE OF BUILDINGS.
ESPECIALLY THE PROXIMITY OF FIVE
STORY DEVELOPMENT RELATIVE TO
EXISTING HOMES. WE HEARD
CONCERNS ABOUT THE ADEQUACY OF
EXISTING TRANSIT SERVICE. ABOUT
ITS FREQUENCY. AND WHAT
DESTINATIONS THAT TRANSIT WOULD
BE GOING TO AND WHETHER ALL OF
THOSE AREAS WERE INDEED
APPROPRIATE FOR HIGHER DENSITIES
ALONG OUR TRANSIT ROUTES. WE
HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WAS
SEEN AS LIMITED ACCESS TO
ESSENTIAL GOODS AND SERVICES AND
HOW MANY STORES WERE NEARBY AND
WERE THERE PUBLIC AMENITIES LIKE
POST OFFICE AND LIBRARY, PARKS?
SO A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD
KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE AREAS THAT
WE WERE PROPOSING NEW HOUSING.
CONCERNS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AGAIN, LOT OF FOCUS ON
STORMWATER BUT ALSO SOME OF THE
SORT OF TRANSPORTATION
INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE STREETS,
HOW NARROW THE STREETS WERE.
WERE THERE CURBS AND GUTTERS AND
IMPACT ON TREES WITH
REDEVELOPMENT. LIKE WITH
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND OTHERS
AND SOME CONCERN ABOUT TREES AND
THEN A LOT OF LOCALIZED FACTORS.
WE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT
IN MY PART OF TOWN, HERE'S THE
ISSUE. THINGS LIKE TOPOGRAPHY.
HISTORIC DISTRICTS AGAIN. OTHER
VERY SPECIFIC LOCAL CONCERNS. SO
THIS IS ALL REALLY IMPORTANT
INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN
USING. WHILE WE HEARD THOSE
CONCERNS, WE ALSO CONTINUE TO
HEAR BROAD SUPPORT FOR THE TEXT
THE CITY WAS TAKING FROM A LOT
OF OTHER FOLKS WHO PROVIDED
COMMENT DURING THE FALL
INCLUDING CONTINUED CALLS FOR US
TO DO MORE THAN WAS PROPOSED
WITH THE MAYOR'S REVISED GROWTH
STRATEGY. IT'S MY LAST SLIDE.
AND HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. AND
WELCOME DISCUSSION. WHAT ARE WE
DOING WITH THAT FALL ENGAGEMENT?
-- BUT WE HEARD DURING THE FALL.
WE'RE NOT QUITE AS FAR ALONG AS
WE -- AS WE WERE WITH WITH
RESPECT TO THE DRAFT PLAN. WE
ARE STILL GOING THROUGH ALL THE
COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD IN THE
FALL. THERE ARE NEARLY 6,000
COMMENTS THEY PROVIDE LOT OF
DETAIL AND IMPORTANT
INFORMATION. AND OPCD IS USING
THAT TO INFORM HOW WE WERE
REVISING THE NEW H B 1110 THAT
LEGISLATION WHICH ISCOMING
FORWARD IN MARCH TO YOU. THEN
LATER IN SPRING THE LEGISLATION
WE'RE CALLING CENTERS AND
CORRIDORS, THAT'S ADOPTION OF
THE NEW ZONING MAPS AND OTHER
CODE CHANGES THAT WILL PROMOTE
HOUSING IN THOSE AREAS. WE ARE
ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE COMMENTS
AND INFORMING ANY CHANGES THAT
WE WOULD BRING FORWARD. REVISED
MAPS AND REVISED CODE LANGUAGE
AND WE WERE TAKING THAT COMMENT
VERY SERIOUSLY. WE'RE READING
ALL OF THE COMMENTSOFFICE
TO BRING A REVISED PROPOSAL.
RICO, DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE OUT
WITH ANY COMMENTS ABOUT HOW
WE'RE USING COMMENTS AND THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ENGAGEMENT
AND THE PLAN ITSELF?
>> WELL, I WANT TO OPEN UP FOR
QUESTIONS OBVIOUSLY. I THINK
THAT IT'S -- I THINK THAT WHAT
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE
PRESENTATION AND THE
CONVERSATION THUS FAR IS THAT WE
-- WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF
COMMENTS FROM FOLKS. AND WE ARE
DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO
ENSURE THAT IN OUR COLLABORATIVE
WORK WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
THAT THE COMMENTS THAT ARE
RECEIVING AND I THINK THAT WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO SHARE THEM WITH YOU
AS WELL. THAT THEY INFORM THE
POLICY DECISIONS THAT WE'RE
MAKING AS IT RELATES TO WHAT
SHOWS UP IN THE PLAN AS WELL AS
AS IT RELATES TO CHANGES AND
MODIFICATIONS TO OUR ZONING
MAPS. SO WITH THAT I JUST -- I
WOULD OPEN IT UP.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE
STARTED THIS MEETING AND I
FORGOT TO -- I APOLOGIZE. I
FORGOT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS FOR WE'RE ONLY HERE AT
11:00 A.M. BECAUSE YOU SHORTENED
YOUR MEETING TODAY THIS MORNING
IN THE FINANCE MEETING. YOU WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. MY
APOLOGIES AND I WILL STOP THERE.
AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE
OF QUESTIONS FROM FOLKS. AND I
SEE COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, YOUR
HAND IS RAISED. COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND THE
FINAL POINT IN OUR FINANCE
COMMITTEE MEETING THIS MORNING
WAS A DISCUSSION ON HOW MANY
SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEES WE'RE
HAVING SO WE'LL BE CIRCLING UP
WITH EACH OF YOU TO UNDERSTAND
WHERE CERTAIN PIECES OF
LEGISLATION WILL GO AND OTHER
BUDGET OR SELECT BUDGET.
DIRECTOR QUIRINDONGO AND
MICHAEL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU AND
YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FOR THE
EXTENSIVE NUMBER OF OUTREACH
EVENTS THAT YOU HELD THIS FALL.
I KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME
SCHEDULING CHALLENGES AND I WAS
HAPPY TO MAKE IT TO ONE OF THEM
AND I'M EMBARRASSED BY THE
PHOTO THAT YOU HAD UP THERE THAT
I WAS IN. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I DID SHARE WITH YOU AT
THAT TIME WITH YOU MY CONCERN
THAT IT SEEMED AS IF WE WERE NOT
GETTING A WIDE VARIETY OF PEOPLE
ENGAGED IN THESE OPEN HOUSES.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I
ATTENDED THE ONE IN DISTRICT 6.
BUT I ALSO ATTENDED THE ONE IN
DISTRICT 7 BECAUSE FOLKS IN
MAGNOLIA WEREN'T NECESSARILY
GOING TO COME TO LOYAL HEIGHTS
AND THEY WERE HABITUAL ABOUT
GOING OVER TO QUEEN ANNE.
CONCERNS THAT IT WAS SO FOCUSED
ON THE DISTRICT THAT DISTRICT 6
DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION
ABOUT GREENWOOD AS I THINK WE
WOULD HAVE LIKED. ALL OF THAT
SAID, MY TAKEAWAY WAS THAT EVERY
DAY SEATTLE-ITES WEREN'T
NECESSARILY ENGAGING IN THE
PROCESS BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL.
FOR THEM AT THAT POINT YET. AND
SOMETIMES THAT MEANS JUST THAT
THERE IS A PROPOSED MAP BUT
MAYBE FOLKS AREN'T RECOGNIZING
IT. MR. HUBNER, YOUR COMMENT
ABOUT THE EARNED NEED YEA AND
THE FEATURED STORIES IS TRUE. I
HEARD THOSE STORIES AND I READ
THOSE STORIES. AND THOSE STORIES
WERE ALSO AT A HIGH LEVEL ABOUT
THE WHOLE PLAN OVERALL. AND IT
DIDN'T NECESSARILY SPEAK ABOUT
WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON
SOMEBODY'S BLOCK. AND THAT'S
KIND OF WHERE THE CONCERN FOR ME
IS COMING IS THAT SINCE ABOUT
BEGINNING OF DECEMBER, I HAVE
HAD A WHOLE DIFFERENT GROUP OF
PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO ME TO
HAVE THESE MET MEETINGS AND I'M
GETTING TO A QUESTION IN A
MOMENT. BUT I KNOW THAT I SHARED
THIS WITH YOU THE OTHER DAY.
THAT I DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT
NOT EVERYDAY SEATTLE-ITES WERE
AWARE THAT THEY HAD PUBLIC HOUSE
OPPORTUNITIES THIS FALL. AND NOW
THAT THIS PLAN IS REAL AND
BEFORE US, THAT PEOPLE ARE NOW
HAVING DESIRES TO HAVE THEIR
VOICE HEARD. I HAD OFFICE HOURS
JUST THE OTHER DAY WITH SOMEBODY
THAT WAS SO CONCERNED THAT THEY
DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE
THEIR COMMENTS HEARD AND THEIR
VOICE HEARD AND I -- REASSURED
THEM THAT IT HADN'T BEEN
TRANSMITTED TO COUNCIL YET. AND
I WAS HERE TO MEET WITH THEM AS
THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. AND SO
THERE'S ALSO A FEELING THAT
THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER
OPPORTUNITY. I CAN'TED IF EACH
OF US WANTED THE HOST THE OPEN
HOUSE IN OUR DISTRICT THAT WOULD
BE NEARLY UNTENABLE AS EACH OF
US HAVE FOUR STAFF. THAT WOULD
BE I MEAN IT COULD HAPPEN. BUT
YOU KNOW? IT'S -- WHEREAS YOU
KNOW, YOUR DEPARTMENT IS SET UP
TO DO THESE OUTREACH EVENTS AND
I'M NOT HERE ASKING FOR A
SPECIFIC SOLUTION TODAY. I AM
ASKING CHAIR IF WE CAN CONTINUE
THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW OPCD
CAN CONTINUE ENGAGEMENT WITH
FEEDBACK AND HOW THAT WORKS. AND
I SAY THAT BECAUSE ALSO IF THE
FEIS IS APPEALED WE HAVE MUCH
MORE TIME. IF IT'S NOT WE'RE
ON A PRETTY SHORT TIMELINE. BUT
YOU KNOW, I'LL GET DOWN TO THE
QUESTION SPECIFICALLY. IS FOR
FOLKS THAT BECAME AWARE IN EARLY
DECEMBER OF THE COMMENT PERIOD
THAT ENDED ON DECEMBER 20th, AND
YOU HAVE ALWAYS HEARD ME
FEEDBACK AND WHEN I WAS LAND USE
CHAIR I WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR
COMMENT PERIODS TO END DURING
THE HOLIDAYS OR TO GO OVER
HOLIDAYS WITHOUT AN EXTENSION.
BUT FOR SOMEBODY THAT DID SUBMIT
THEIR COMMENTS IN THOSE LAST FEW
WEEKS OR DECEMBER 19th OR
DECEMBER 20th, HOW WERE THOSE
COMMENTS TAKEN INTO
CONSIDERATION? DID THEY SHOW UP
IN YOUR FINAL FEIS AND CAN YOU
WALK ME THROUGH HOW YOU TOOK
PEOPLE'S COMMENTS AND WHAT THE
OUTCOME OF THEM COMMENTING WAS?
>> AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE IN THE
PROCESS OF REVIEWING ALL OF
THOSE COMMENTS NOW. THE PURPOSE
OF THE FALL ENGAGEMENT WAS TO
INFORM THE LEGISLATION FOR THE
HOUSE BILL 1110 NEW NEIGHBORHOOD
RESIDENTIAL ZONING ONE AND TWO
ZONING FOR CENTERS AND
CORRIDORS. NEITHER OF THOSE HAVE
BEEN SENT TO COUNCIL YET AND
WE'RE WORKING TO REVISE THOSE
DRAFT PROPOSALS FOR TRANSMITTAL
TO YOU. WE ARE SO FIRST AND
FOREMOST, WE'RE USING THOSE
COMMENTS TO INFORM ANY CHANGES
TO THE LEGISLATION. WE ARE AWARE
THAT THERE WERE -- THERE ARE --
COMMENTS THAT REFLECT ON AND
PROVIDE INPUT TO THE PLAN
ITSELF. TO THE LARGER GROWTH
STRATEGY. WE DID MAKE AN EFFORT
TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AT
THAT HIGH LEVEL THE NEW AREAS
FOR GROWTH LIKE THE NEW
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS ARE
REPRESENTED IN THE COMP PLAN
THAT WERE THERE FACTORS OR
ISSUES THAT MIGHT SUGGEST
TWEAKING THE BOUNDARIES, YOU
KNOW, MAKING SOME CHANGES THAT
WE COULD MAKE IN A VERY SHORT
PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE RELEASING
THE PLAN IN EARLY JANUARY AND WE
DID DO THAT. THERE WERE SOME WE
DID -- DO A -- SCAN OF WHAT WE
HAD HEARD AS TOE WHAT IT WOULD
MEAN FOR THE GROWTH STRATEGY MAP
AND THERE ARE SOME SMALL CHANGES
THERE. AND WHEN THE ZONING
LEGISLATION IN MAY IS WE
HAVE QUITE A LOT OF LATITUDE
WITHIN THE WAY THE PLAN TALKS
ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND
CORRIDORS TO REFLECT AND TO MAKE
ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON PUBLIC
COMMENTS. SO THERE'S VERY
LITTLE THAT'S REALLY SET IN
STONE IN THE PLAN ITSELF. AND
THE ZONING LEGISLATION WILL BE
VERY SUBSTANTIVE AND WE'LL
CONSIDER WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY.
IT'S A LOT OF COMMENT AND A LOT
OF IT IS VERY DETAILED SO WE ARE
TAKING OUR TIME WITH IT.
>> THANK YOU. CAN YOU REMIND ME
WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
COMMENT PERIOD ENDED IF THE --
IF THE COMMENT PERIOD ON THE
20th WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE
ZONING PROPOSALS?
>> THE COMMENT PERIOD ON THE
PLAN WAS IN THE SPRING. THAT WAS
THE FIRST SEGMENT OF MY
PRESENTATION. THAT WAS IN THE
DRAFT PLAN WAS RELEASED. THE
ENGAGEMENT IN THE FALL THE
COMMENT PERIOD WAS SPECIFICALLY
AROUND THE ZONING. THAT SAID,
SOMETIMES COMMENTS ABOUT ZONING
SUGGEST WE MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE
BOUNDARIES AROUND CENTERS OR
OTHER CHANGES THAT ARE AT THAT
HIGHER LEVEL IN THE PLAN. WE'RE
ENDEAVORING TO CONNECT THE DOTS
WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.
>> LET ME REPEAT BACK TO YOU
WHAT I THINK I HEARD IS THAT THE
FEIS WAS JUST PUBLISHED LAST
WEEK WAS BASED ON THE COMMENT
THAT ENDED IN THE SPRING. WHEN
DID THAT COMMENT PERIOD END.
>> THE FEIS IS ON A SEPARATE
PARALLEL TRACK FROM THE PLAN
ITSELF. IN THE SPRING, WE
RELEASED TWO THINGS. THE DRAFT
PLAN AND THERE'S 60 DAY COMMENT
PERIOD ON THE DRAFT PLAN. THERE
WAS A DRAFT EIS THAT HAD A
CONCURRENT 60 DAY COMMENT
PERIOD. WE RECEIVED OVER 500
COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT EIS. AND
THE FINAL EIS WHICH WAS
RELEASTED LAST THURSDAY INCLUDES
RESPONSES TO ALL OF THOSE
COMMENTS AND IT'S A VERY
SEPARATE PROCESS AND WE RESPOND
TO EACH COMMENT THAT WE GET IN A
DRAFT EIS. AND ALL OF THOSE SO
THAT'S ALL THAT WAS IN THE
SPRING AND THERE WAS NO --
NOTHING NEW RELEASED ON THE EIS
IN THE FALL. AND THERE WERE NO
NEW COMMENTS ON THE EIS IN THE
FALL.
>> THE COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE
FEIS WAS THE SPRING.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> OKAY AND YOU INCORPORATED
THOSE COMMENTS TO PUBLISH THE
DOCUMENT YOU DID LAST WEEK.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, ARE
THE ZONING PROPOSALS AND THAT
COMMENT PERIOD ENDED ON DECEMBER
20th IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> AND YOU HAVE NOT YET
TRANSMITTED THOSE BILLS, IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO
IMCORPORATE THE COMMENTS THE
FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMENTS THAT
YOU HAVE RECEIVED?
>> WE ARE READING ALL OF THEM.
AND IDENTIFYING ISSUES AND
POTENTIAL CHANGES AND WORKING
WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO
PREPARE THAT LEGISLATION. OF
WHAT WE WOULD TO WITH ANY SET OF
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE ARE GOING
THROUGH IT VERY -- MEANINGFULLY
AND IN DETAIL. BECAUSE PEOPLE
HAVE A LOT TO SAY AND WE'RE
TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
>> VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU
GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS. I SEE COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MR. HUBNER FOR
YOUR BRIEF AND DIRECTOR
QUIRINDONGO FOR JOINING US
TODAY. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I
DO APPRECIATE THE OUTREACH THAT
HAS BEEN DONE AND I RECOGNIZE,
YOU KNOW, SOME CHANGES COULD
HAVE BEEN MADE IN TERMS OF
NOTIFICATIONS. BUT I DO
APPRECIATE LIKE -- DIRECTOR
JOINING ME FOR THE QUEEN ANNE
HISTORICAL SOCIETY. WHICH HAVE
PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST
INTERESTING OUTREACH SESSIONS
THERE'S BEEN. BUT WE HAVE HAD
OTHERS WITH THE QUEEN ANNE
COMMUNITY COUNCIL AT THE
COMMUNITY CENTER THERE AND WE
HAVE MORE COMING UP MAGNOLIA
COMMUNITY CENTER AND I'M
MEETING WITH THE MAGNOLIA GROUP
RELATED TO SOUTHEAST MAGNOLIA. I
SUSPECT MY COLLEAGUES ARE DOING
MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF OUTREACH AS
WELL. IT'S INTERESTING, THREE R
CENTERS. TWO URBAN CENTERS. I'M
COUNTING EAST LAKE AND A BIT OF
EAST LAKE AND D 7. AND ONE
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IN --
DISTRICT 7. AND THEN IN TERMS OF
SOME OF THE MAJOR AREAS, BECAUSE
OF -- THERE'S A QUESTION -- SO
A LOT OF THE FOCUS IS THAT ONE
AREA OF D-7 MAGNOLIA BUT REALLY
QUEEN ANNE IS THE CENTER OF THIS
PHASE. MY FIRST QUESTION IS JUST
FOR CONFIRMATION. THE CENTERS
AND CORRIDORS ZONING LEGISLATION
WITH MAY BEHIND IT. THAT'S FOR
THE URBAN CENTERS AND
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. THE
TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
THE REGIONAL CENTERS ARE THAT
NEXT PHASE IN SEPTEMBER. JUST
FOR CONFIRMATION.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> THE AREAS WHERE THE MAYOR'S
PLAN INCLUDES PROPOSED EXPANSION
OF REGIONAL CENTERS LIKE UPTOWN.
THE SMALL EXPANSION OF THE
NORTH. EDGE OF UPTOWN. THAT
WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE MAY
LEGISLATION THE CENTERS AND
CORRIDORS LEGISLATION.
>> BUT EVERYTHING ELSE RELATED
TO THE REGIONAL CENTERS WOULD BE
IN THAT NEXT PHASE FOR
SEPTEMBER? OR PHASE THREE.
>> IT WOULD BE FOR FUTURE
CONSIDERATION IF THERE ARE
ZONING CHANGES IN EXISTING
CENTERS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE
LOOKING AT. THERE'S NO PROPOSED
LEGISLATION AT THIS TIME. BUT IT
WOULD COME LATER.
>> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S
IMPORTANT PARTICULARLY FOR MY
DISTRICT. AS YOU KNOW, DISTRICT
7 CAME IN HORIZONTALLY BECAUSE
WE WENT VERTICAL. AND THE -- THE
VOICES OF THE RESIDENTS IN THOSE
REGIONAL CENTERS REALLY, YOU
KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO
BE HEARD AND IT'S SIMILAR IN MY
EXPERIENCE TALKING TO, YOU KNOW,
THE OTHER PARTS OF DISTRICT 7
AND REALLY OTHER PARTS OF THE
CITY, AND THAT KIND OF GOES TO
THE 15 MINUTE CITY DELIVERABLE
CITY. YOU KNOW, LIKE WE WERE
REALLY PUSHING FOR THE, YOU
KNOW, COMMERCIAL OF THE
RESIDENTIAL CONVERSIONS AND
DOWNTOWN. AND MY STAFF IS GOING
TO BRING DIRECTOR OF THE
DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COUNCIL'S
NEW FLYER THAT I PROMISED YOU AT
THE LAST MEETING AND I'LL HAVE
THEM BRING IT TO ME HERE. AND
I'LL HAVE ONE FOR YOU TOO
HUBNER. SO THE DOWNTOWN
COMMUNITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE SO
MANY RESIDENTS THAT'S COMING UP
AND I HAVE HAD RECENT MEETINGS
WITH BELLTOWN AND THEY'RE
TALKING ABOUT THAT LIVABLE CITY
TOO. AND HERE'S THE CHALLENGE.
LIKE HOW MANY GROCERY STORES ARE
IN THE GREATER DOWNTOWN? WHEN I
SAY GREATER DOWNTOWN YOU KNOW,
DOWNTOWN ITSELF BUT ALSO, YOU
KNOW, PIONEER SQUARE. CID. YOU
KNOW, THE PIKE PLACE MARKET.
BELLTOWN. UPTOWN. AND SOUTH
LAKE, YOU KNOW. LIKE HOW MANY
THERE? PHARMACIES. YOU KNOW,
THERE'S BUNCH OF CAFE AND
RESTAURANTS BUT NOT THE MIX AND
SOME AREAS HAVE LESS. LIKE
BELLTOWN. THEY'RE REALLY
HURTING AND THEN THE SMALL
BUSINESSES AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S
SO MANY FIRST FLOOR KIND OF
EMPTY, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES
THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE
THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW,
REALLY COME ACROSS THE ENTIRETY
OF DISTRICT 7. BUT IT'S AN
INTERESTING PIECE WITH REGARDING
TO THE AREAS WITHIN THE REGIONAL
CENTERS. AND BOTH THERE AND IN
PLACES LIKE QUEEN ANNE, IT WAS
THE IDEA OF KEEPING THE
HISTORICAL PIECES. YOU KNOW, I
LIVED IN THREE TIMES IN THE DC
AREA AND DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, HAS
MR. GREAT WAY OF MAINTAINING THE
OLD BUILDINGS AND KEEPING THE
SHELLS AND THEN BUILDINGS NEW
AND WITHIN AND UP. BUT KEEPING
THAT FEATURE AND WE DON'T
NECESSARILY DO THAT AS WELL.
THERE'S LITTLE BIT AS I
MENTIONED IN A MEETING RECENTLY
FOR OUR DISTRICT 7 NEIGHBORHOOD
COUNCIL. BASICALLY A COUNCIL OF
D 7s COMMUNITY COUNCILS. AND YOU
KNOW, HOW THE -- YOU COME ON
WEST LAKE TO HIT MERCER
SOUTHBOUND. THE OLD I THINK IT
WAS FORD -- I FORGET THE
AUTOMOBILE AND THEY KEPT THAT
FACADE AND THEN THEY BUILT, YOU
KNOW, AROUND IT AND THEN ABOVE.
YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THAT
HISTORICAL KIND OF PIECES IS SO
IMPORTANT. AND THEN THE
TRANSPORTATION PIECES. THAT CAME
OUT LIKE IN THIS MEETING WITH
THE DISTRICT 7 NEIGHBORHOOD
COUNCIL. AND DOWNTOWN THE
GREATER DOWNTOWN IS ALSO
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PIECE
BECAUSE AS WE DO THE HOUSING AND
THAT, THE TRANSPORTATION PIECES
HAS GOT TO BE THERE. OTHERWISE
WE WON'T HAVE THAT 15 MINUTE
LIVABLE CITY. AND FOR
CONSTITUENT SUZANNE WHO'S OUT
THERE I'M GOING TO SAY THE WORD
TREES. WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY
ANOTHER BIG ISSUE THIS AND WE
THE WAY REGARDING MY DISTRICT 7
NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL. MR.
ANDERSON WHO'S OUT HERE, HE
PARTICIPATED IN, YOU KNOW, IN
TERMS OF HISTORICAL CHARACTER
LIKE DENNY TRIANGLE AND
MAINTAINING A WAY TO KEEP THAT
FEEL BUT ALSO DO THE
DENSIFICATION. THESE ARE THE
THINGS THAT REALLY CAME OUT OF
THE OUTREACH THAT -- THAT I HAVE
BEEN DOING AS THE, YOU KNOW,
DISTRICT 7 REPRESENTATIVE. SO MY
QUESTION THERE IS, HAVE YOU SEEN
ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THE
REGIONAL CENTER AREAS VERSUS
LIKE -- OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY
OR, YOU KNOW, AND THE LIKE?
>> YES. WE DID RECEIVE SOME
COMMENTS REGARDING GENERALLY A
DESIRE FOR PLANNING FOR GROWTH
AND DENSITY AROUND OUR MAJOR
TRANSIT INVESTMENTS. MANY OF
THEM ARE IN OUR EXISTING --
REGIONAL CENTERS. AND TO SOME IN
URBAN CENTERS AS WELL AND
LIGHTRAIL. THE -- EXISTING
STATIONS AND ALSO THE PLANNED
ONES FOR, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY
DOWNTOWN HAS A LOT OF NEW
LOCATIONS FOR FUTURE STATIONS.
SOME ROBUST RAPID TRANSIT LINES
AS WELL. WE DID HEAR COMMENTS
URGING THE CITY TO CONSIDER MORE
DENSITY GENERALLY AROUND STATION
AREAS AND ALSO SPECIFICALLY IN
REGIONAL CENTERS. IT WASN'T
PART OF THE -- THERE WEREN'T
CHANGES IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS
IN THE DRAFT PLAN THAT WAS
RELEASED IN SPRING OF LAST YEAR.
NOR WERE THERE VERY MANY ZONING
CHANGES THAT TOUCHED THE
EXISTING CENTERS IN THE FALL SO
THERE WASN'T A LOT TO REACT TO
FROM THE PUBLIC. I WOULD SUSPECT
THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE A LOT OF
COMMENT ABOUT LAND USE AND
DENSITY AND HOUSING IN OUR
EXISTING CENTERS. I THINK I'M
NOT AT ALL SURPRISED TO HEAR
THAT YOU ARE HEARING ABOUT THAT
FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS. BUT WE
DEFINITELY HEARD THAT THE PUBLIC
VALUES AND RECOGNIZES REGIONAL
CENTERS ARE A BIG PART OF HOW WE
ARE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH
IN THE FUTURE. AND IN FACT, IF
YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRIBUTION OF
LIKE WHAT ROLE OUR REGIONAL
CENTERS HAVE IN THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSED PLAN, IT IS STILL A
VERY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE
GROWTH THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED
OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. EVEN
WITH ALL OF THE OTHER CHANGES
WOULD BE IN REGIONAL CENTERS AND
WE HAVE TO BE READY FOR IT.
>> OKAY. AND I SUSPECT SOME OF
THAT COULD BE WITHIN LIKE --
COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S GOVERNANCE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT THAT SMALL BUSINESS,
YOU KNOW, PIECE THAT LIVABLE
CITY PIECE. I JUST WANTED TO
KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN
AN ISSUE THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IN DISTRICT
7 AND I MYSELF AM SUPPORTIVE OF
IT. IT'S AN INNER BAY AND
REALLY ACKNOWLEDGES WHAT'S
ALREADY THERE FOR THE MOST PART.
AND IT'S KIND OF CONSTRAINED
BUT A IT'S AN INNER BAY. BUT
THAT'S THE ONE AREA IN INNER
BAY WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THE
HOUSING SO HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTER THERE MAKES SENSE TO ME.
AND I HAVE NOT HAD ANY PUSHBACK
ON THAT. SO ONE LESS
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER TO WORRY
ABOUT FOR YOU. AND ONE OF THE
CONVERSATIONS TO INCLUDE THE
DISTRICT 7 NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL
WHICH HAD OTHER GROUPS LIKE
QUEEN ANNE AND SEATTLE
NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAYS, IS THE
IDEA OF SOME MINI NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTERS WHICH I HAVE BROUGHT UP
PREVIOUSLY AND I COULD FOLLOW UP
WITH YOU ON THAT. THERE WAS SOME
INTEREST IN THAT KIND OF LIKE A
STEP BY STEP APPROACH TO SEE,
YOU KNOW; WHICH ONES MAY GROW
ORGANICALLY. SO THAT WAS OF
INTERESTING EXCHANGE AND OF
COURSE I ALWAYS KEEP THE PUBLIC
SAFETY PIECE FRONT AND CENTER. I
WON'T ASK YOU A QUESTION ON
THAT. ANOTHER POINT TOO THAT
CAME UP IN THE OUTREACH AND
SOMETHING I HAVE COME TO BELIEVE
IN AS WELL BASED ON MY
EXPERIENCE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO
HAVE THE VARIED HOUSING TYPES.
YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE FLEX
STATS AND, YOU KNOW, THE
TRIPLEXES AND ALL THESE
DIFFERENT MIXES OF TYPES OF
HOUSING. AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN
SEE. AND SO -- I THINK THAT -- I
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU
BUT I WOULD SAY PARTLY THAT
I'MAGE TO NOT WAIT UNTIL MAY. I
THINK LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE
PROBABLY READY TO ACCEPT THE
ZONING LEGISLATION NOW. BECAUSE
WE'VE DONE OUR OWN OUTREACH AND
AM I READY AND THIS WAS, YOU
KNOW, SOMEBODY'S THOUGHTS WERE
INCLUDED IN THE NEWSLETTER WE
PUT OUT AND THE TWO PAGER I'M
GOING TO PUT OUT. SO WE'RE
ANXIOUSLY AWAITING AND BUT -- IN
THE MEANTIME, THE OUTREACH WILL
CONTINUE LIKE I SAID WITH
MAGNOLIA COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND
QUEEN ANNE COMMUNITY COUNCIL
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IN THIS
PHASE THAT'S WHERE THE CENTER
OF DISTRICT 7 IS. SO THANK .
>> I CHICANING MEMBER SAKA AND
THEN FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA AND THEN FOLLOWED BY
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR AND
THANK YOU BOTH FOR TODAY'S
PRESENTATION. IT IS NO SURPRISE
TO ME THAT SO MUCH OF OUR
COMMUNITY IS EAGER TO ENGAGE ON
THIS ISSUE GIVEN THE WAYS IN
WHICH SO MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY
ARE IMPACTED BY THE HOUSING
CRISIS. IT IS -- URGENT AND IT
IS DIRE FOR MANY. AND WILL
CONTINUE TO SEE THAT ENGAGEMENT
PLAY OUT WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING
LATER TODAY BUT MY QUESTIONS FOR
YOU ALL ON THE EDGE GAMEMENT YOU
HAVE BEEN DOING WITH THE
COMMUNITY. WHAT METHOD DID YOU
USE TO MAKE SURE THOSE WHO HAVE
BEEN GIVING PUBLIC COMMENT ARE
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BROODY
COMMUNITY? NAMELY TRY TO REACH
BLACK AND INDIGENOUS AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AS WELL AS
RENTERS?
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE
WERE VERY FOCUSED ON FROM THE
BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. WE
ACTUALLY STARTED THE ENTIRE ARC
OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE
BEGAN. EVEN BEFORE 2022 WHEN
PRIOR COUNCIL ASKED OPCD TO DO
AN EVALUATION OF THE EXISTING
SEATTLE 2035 PLAN AND WE HAVE
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AROUND THAT.
THERE'S OUR REPORT PRODUCED BY
POLICY LINK. WE BROUGHT IN TO
HELP US EVALUATE THE CURRENT
PLAN AND WE DID ENGAGEMENT THEN.
VERY INTENTIONALLY REACHING OUT
TO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE
HISTORICALLY NOT BEEN AS ENGAGED
OR BEEN ABLE TO ENGAGE ON A
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. JUST BIPOC
COMMUNITIES AND DIFFERENT
CULTURAL COMMUNITIES IN THE
CITY. A WIDE SWATH OF FOLKS THAT
WE KNEW HISTORICALLY HAVE NOT
BEEN INVOLVED SO WE STARTED
THEN. IN THE FIRST TWPHASES OF
ENGAGEMENT, WHICH WE'RE GOING
TO FOCUS ON TODAY. THAT'S WHERE
WE DID THE HEAVY LIFTING AROUND
BROADENING THE TENT IN OUR
OUTREACH. HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT
WOULD BE OUR -- ENHANCED SO
WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS TO BEGIN WITH.
THERE ARE THE COMMUNITY LIAISON
PROGRAM AND DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS HAS -- STAFF WHO
ARE AVAILABLE, THAT ARE MEMBERS
OF OR RELATIONSHIPS WITH
DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE
CITY BRING IN LANGUAGE AND
RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND
OUTREACH. WE WORK WITH
DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS
DURING THAT PERIOD VERY HEAVILY.
WE CONTRACTED WITH COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS. THIS IS A
NEW MODEL FOR OPCD. AGAIN, WE
HAD A CALL FOR PROPOSALS FROM
ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENT OR
WORK IN COMMUNITIES. WE WANTED
TO HIGHLIGHTEN ENGAGEMENT WITH
AND WE HAD EIGHT DIFFERENT
CONTRACTS WITH COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS. REPORTS FROM THE
WORK THEY DID TO ENGAGE WITH
COMMUNITY ARE AVAILABLE ON OUR
WEBSITE. THEY ALSO MEET
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF AND WE
DID TARGETED OUTREACH AROUND
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE AT RISK OF
DISPLACEMENT. THOSE ARE JUST
HIGHLIGHTS. THERE ARE MANY
DIFFERENT AND MANY DIFFERENT
JUNCTURES WE DID THE EXTRA
EFFORT TO BROAD P OUR ENGAGEMENT
TO REACH FOLKS WE HADN'T O CAN .
GO TO THE MAIN ONE SEATTLE PLAN
WEB PAGE, YOU WILL SEE ONE OF
THE -- ONE OF THE ROLLED UP
SUBJECT AREAS IS ENGAGEMENT. THE
LAST TAB ON THAT. OR THE LAST
LINK ON THAT IS POLICY
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CBO
PARTNERS IN THE SPRING OF '23 WE
RECEIVED REPORTS SO IT WAS THE
-- ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN LABOR
ALLIANCE VALLEY SUSTAINABILITY
ASSOCIATION LIBRARY, KAYMER
COMMUNITY OF SEATTLE KING
COUNTY, PATHWAYS, CABOT HILL EGO
DISTRICT AND RISING TIDE. SO YOU
CAN GET -- SO WE CONTRACT WITH
EACH OF THOSE CBOs TO DO THEIR
OWN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS
RELATED TO THE PLAN. AND THEN
COMPILE RESPONSES FROM
COMMUNITIES SO THAT'S WHERE YOU
CAN GET A BUNCH MORE DETAIL
THERE. WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING
WITH OTHER COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
SPECIFICALLY ENGAGED AROUND
BLACK HOME OWNERSHIP AND
PROVIDING RESOURCES FOR
COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO EITHER
RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE HOME
THAT THEY ARE IN, OR BE FIRST
TIME HOME BUYERS.
>> THANK YOU FOR LAYING THAT OUT
AND WHAT ENCOURAGED TO CONTINUE
TO DAYLIGHT THAT WORK. THAT'S
REALLY INCREDIBLE AND
ENCOURAGING TO HEAR THOSE KIND
OF PARTNERSHIPS AND HOW THIS
WORK REALLY BEGAN WITH FOSTERING
AND ENGAGING WITH THOSE GROUPS.
AND KIND OF ALSO TO THAT END,
THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR
CITY COMMISSION, STRIVE TO BE
REPRESENTATIVE IN SO MANY WAYS
AND THEY'RE DESIGNED AS SUCH TO
REPRESENT A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT
GROUPS AND BACKGROUNDS AND
EXPERIENCES. SO WONDERING ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, FOR THE VARIOUS CITY
COMMISSIONS WE HAVE, FROM THE
RENTERS COMMISSION TO DISABILITY
COMMISSION AND LGBTQ COMMISSION,
HOW HAVE SOME OF OUR COMMISSION
PARTNERS ENGAGED ON THE PLAN AND
HOW HAS THEIR FEEDBACK PERHAPS
BEEN INCORPORATED?
>> SO THERE'S -- THERE'S
DETAIL IN THAT SUMMARY REPORT
THAT I TALKED ABOUT DURING THE
PRESENTATION. IT LISTS ALL OF
THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT
WE ENGAGED WITH. I CAN'T
REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMB BUT I
THINK IT'S -- COUPLE PROBABLY
DOZEN DIFFERENT BOARDS AND
COMMISSIONS THAT WE EITHER
PROVIDED PRESENTATIONS TO, HAD
FOLLOW-UP PRESENTATION AND
DISCUSSION, AND/OR RECEIVED
LETTERS FROM AND I KNOW LOT OF
THEM HAD COMMENTS DURING THE
PROCESS AS WELL. SO WE PUT A LOT
OF EFFORT INTO BOARDS AND
COMMISSIONS AND IT'S A GREAT
WAY AS YOU HAVE NOTED TO REACH A
VERY BROAD CONSTITUENCY AND WITH
FOLKS THAT CAN COME TO THE TABLE
HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING A
LITTLE BIT MORE AND ALSO PROVIDE
VERY ISSUE SPECIFIC AREA SUBJECT
AREA SPECIFIC FEEDBACK AS WELL.
SO ALL OF THOSE WERE BENEFIT AND
VALUE
>> ON SLIDE 11, YOU NOTED THAT
THE PUBLIC ASKED FOR MORE
REGIONAL AND URBAN CENTERS, MORE
REGIONAL CENTERS, WIDER CORE TR
RESPONSE TO THE FIRST DRAFT. THE
SECOND DRAFT ADDED MORE. WE WENT
FROM 20 FOR PROPOSED CENTERS TO
30 EXPANSIONS TO REGIONAL AND
URBAN CENTER EXPANSIONS AND
THERE IS A NOTE ON SLIDE 22 THAT
IN ADDITION TO CONCERNS THAT HAD
ARISEN, THERE STILL WERE CALLS
TO ZONE FOR MORE HOUSING IN MORE
AREAS. ULTIMATELY, WE SAW LITTLE
CHANGE BETWEEN THE SECOND DRAFT
AND THE DRAFT NOW BEFORE US .
SOME OF OUR CENTERS SEEM TO HAVE
REDUCED SLIGHTLY IN SCALE. CAN
YOU EXPLAIN HOW COMMENTS ON THE
SECOND DRAFT, WITH RESPECT TO
CONSIDERING THE NUMBER, SIZE AND
LOCATION OF REGIONAL AND URBAN
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS WERE
INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL
PROPOSAL?
>> WITH RESPECT TO THE NUMBER,
LOCATION, AND SIZE OF THE
CENTERS, THAT WAS BACK IN THE
SPRING OF 2020 FOR. WE
INCORPORATED THAT FEEDBACK
BETWEEN THE DRAFT PLAN IN THE
SPRING AND THE MAYOR'S
PREFERRED, RECOMMENDED GROWTH
STRATEGY WHICH WAS RELEASED IN
SEPTEMBER. I WOULD CHARACTERIZE
THE COMMENTS AS TWO KINDS. ONE
WAS BROADLY, JUST ON THE ISSUE.
THERE SHOULD BE MORE
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, LET'S
SAY. ALSO, SPECIFIC. X LOCATION
WOULD BE A GREAT LOCATION FOR AN
ADDITIONAL CENTER. WE HAD THOSE
TWO TYPES OF COMMENTS. WE LOOKED
AT THOSE AND THAT HELPED INFORM
THE PROCESS OF, FOR EXAMPLE,
IDENTIFYING THE FIVE OR SIX
ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS
THAT WERE IN THE MAYOR'S
PREFERRED VERSUS THE DRAFT AND
AREAS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING
WITH ADDITIONAL EXPANSION. BOTH
BROADLY AND SPECIFICALLY, ABOUT
LOCATIONS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
>> I SUPPOSE I WAS FOCUSING ON
BETWEEN THE SECOND DRAFT, THE
PAUL DRAFT.
>> BETWEEN THE SPRING AND THE
FALL. THE SPRING WITH THE DRAFT
PLAN IN THE FALL WAS THE
MAYOR'S RECOMMEND GROWTH
STRATEGY THAT WAS RELEASED IN
SEPTEMBER. THAT IS ONLY VERY,
VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS IN THE
MAYOR'S PLAN WHICH WAS RELEASED
IN JANUARY. AS I MENTIONED IN MY
PRESENTATION, THERE ARE SOME
VERY SMALL BOUNDARY CHANGES THAT
WERE MADE TO THE MAP BUT IT IS
LARGELY THE SAME AS THE MAYOR'S
STRATEGY AS RELEASED IN
SEPTEMBER.
>> MOVING US TO -- ON SLIDE 12,
THERE WAS A SPECIFIC ASK ABOUT
REDUCING OR ELIMINATING
OFFSTREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN, OR TELL ME
FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, WHY
WE STILL HAVE PARKING
REQUIREMENTS?
>> SO, FIRST, I WANT TO EXPLAIN
IN THE DRAFT RELEASED IN THE
SPRING, THERE WAS NOT A
RECOMMENDATION SPECIFICALLY ON
PARKING REQUIREMENTS. RATHER,
JUST INDICATING THAT WE WERE
LOOKING AT PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
SECOND, JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE,
HOUSE BILL 1110 DOES HAVE
CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. CERTAIN
AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE WE ARE
NOT REQUIRED TO REQUIRE
OFFSTREET PARKING, THAT IS
WITHIN A HALF-MILE OF OUR MAJOR
TRANSIT STATIONS. THAT IS THE
LANDSCAPE WE WERE LOOKING AT.
FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE,
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK
VERY CLOSELY AT AND CONSIDER THE
BALANCE BETWEEN THE AND IF IT'S
OF PARKING IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS
AND WE HAVE BEEN HAVING A PLACE
TO PUT AUTOMOBILES, ESPECIALLY
IN LIGHT OF THE LIMITED SUPPLY
OF ON STREET PARKING WHICH
VARIES ACROSS THE CITY. WITH,
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, THAT HAS
BEEN, I THINK, STUDIED QUITE
EXTENSIVELY IN THE PLANNING
LITERATURE AND THE OTHER CITIES.
WHICH IS, WHERE YOU REQUIRE
OFFSTREET PARKING AT A CERTAIN
POINT, IT STARTS TO BECOME A
COST AND A RESTRAINT ON HOUSING
DEVELOPMENTS BOTH IN TERMS OF
PURE SITES ARE FEASIBLE BECAUSE
OF THE COST OF PARKING BUT ALSO,
THE SPACE IN THE BUILDING AND
SPACE ON THE SITES THAT NEED TO
BE TAKEN UP THE CARS AND NOT BY
PEOPLE. THIS IS A BALANCING ACT
AND PUTTING A PROPOSAL TOGETHER,
WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE TO TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT THE NEW STATE
REQUIREMENTS, WHAT WE HEARD FROM
PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PROPOSAL
IS TO TAKE THE EXISTING -- FOR
THE REMAINDER OF THE CITY WHERE
WE ARE STILL ALLOWED UNDER STATE
LAW TO REQUIRE OFFSTREET
PARKING, TO REDUCE IT BY ABOUT
HALF. THAT REQUIREMENT FROM THE
CURRENT ONE STATE PER PRINCIPAL
UNIT 21 SPACE PER EVERY TWO
UNITS.
>> GIVEN SOME OF THOSE POSITIVE
FEEDBACKS RELATED TO CORNER
STORES , I DEFINITELY HEARD
ABOUT THAT. WHAT IS THE
CONSIDERATION TO EXPAND THEIR
SCOPE TO NON-CORNER LOTS AND TWO
OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES THAT MAY
BE -- JUST TO HELP PROMOTE SMALL
BUSINESSES. AND THINKING HAIR
SALONS, LAUNDROMATS OR
BOOKSTORES.
>> THAT IS A LEVEL OF DETAIL YOU
WILL SEE IN THE ZONING
LEGISLATION ITSELF AND THAT IS
SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING AT
RIGHT NOW. THAT WOULD BE IN THE
MAY, PROJECTED FOR THE MAY
ZONING TRANSMISSION. PARDON ME,
I MISSPOKE. THAT WOULD BE IN THE
MARCH TRANSMISSION.
>> WONDERFUL.NCLUDES MY
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
FIELDING THEM AND THANK YOU FOR
THE TIME, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
RINCK. NEXT, WE HAVE
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MY
COLLEAGUES --
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES. WE CAN HEAR YOU VERY
LOUD, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. WE
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE
GOOD.
>> I CAN HEAR YOU FINE. IS THE
VOLUME TURNED UP?
>> WE CORRECTED IT. IT WAS A
LITTLE LOUD IN HERE. THANK YOU,
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> I HAVE A LOUD VOICE AS IS.
WELL, FIRST OFF, COLLEAGUES, IT
IS ALWAYS MY STRONGEST
PREFERENCE TO JOIN YOU IN PERSON
AND APOLOGIES I CANNOT DO THAT
TODAY. AS COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS,
AS WE HEARD IN THAT COMMITTEE
EARLIER THIS MORNING, THE
FINANCE COMMITTEE AND TRAVEL
COMMITTEE, I HAVE TWO OF THREE
KIDS OF MY OWN ELEMENTARY HOME
TODAY. OF COURSE, SNOW DAY,
REMOTE SCHOOL, WHATEVER THAT IS.
IT IS SURVIVAL MODE IN MY
HOUSEHOLD RIGHT NOW. I
APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE
AND GRACE. IT IS LUNCH TIME
SOON. I THINK IT IS
UNQUESTIONABLE'S FOR EVERYONE,
MYSELF INCLUDED. IN ANY EVENT,
DIRECTOR, REALLY APPRECIATE THIS
PRESENTATION. I ALSO WANT TO SAY
A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT AND KUDOS TO
EVERYONE AT OP -- OPCD WORKING
CLOSELY WITH ME IN MY OFFICE TO
HOLD AT THE REQUEST OF ME IN MY
OFFICE TO HOLD A FEW EXTRA
SESSIONS SPECIFICALLY IN MY
DISTRICT AS PART OF THE BROADER
COMMUNITY OUTREACH. THANK YOU
FOR THAT. WE ARE FAIRLY FAR
BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL IN TERMS
OF WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE STATE
STATUTORY IMPOST DEADLINE
REQUIREMENTS FOR CHARTING OUR
GROWTH STRATEGY AND PLAN FOR THE
NEXT 10, 20 YEARS BUT WE ARE NOT
GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS
ALONE, NOR HAVE WE GONE THROUGH
IT ALONE. THE DOWNSIDE OF BEING
A LITTLE FURTHER BEHIND IS THAT
WE ARE RUNNING UP AGAINST THE
CLOCK. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY, AT LEAST, OTHER
CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS HAVE
ALREADY COMPLETED THEIR
PROCESSES SO WE COULD
CONCEIVABLY, BETTER UNDERSTAND
BEST PRACTICES AND WHAT THEY DID
IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH
AND ENGAGEMENT. WHAT HELP, WHAT
WORK, OR DIDN'T WORK FOR THEIR
OWN PROCESSES. SO, MY FIRST
QUESTION IS -- RELATES TO THAT.
DID OUR CITY'S OWN OUTREACH AND
ENGAGEMENT APPROACH DIFFER FROM
OTHER CITIES AROUND THE STATE
THAT WE ARE AWARE OF,
PARTICULARLY OTHER LARGER
CITIES? WHAT DID THEY DO THAT WE
DIDN'T AND VICE VERSA? WHAT DID
WE DO THAT THEY DIDN'T
NECESSARILY DO. -- DO?
>> I WILL TAKE A CUT AT THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER, I DON'T REALLY
KNOW. WE HAVEN'T DONE -- THAT
IS A LITTLE BIT OF MONDAY
MORNING QUARTERBACK LOOK BACK --
I THINK THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK
INTO TO TAKE FULL STOCK OF WHAT
OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THROUGH
THE PROCESS. THAT SAID, WE DO
WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OTHER
JURISDICTIONS IN THE COUNTY AND
IN THE REGION BECAUSE WE ALL ARE
ON THE SAME TIMELINE FOR DOING
OUR COMP PLAN UPDATES. WE ARE IN
MEETINGS WITH THEM, THE PUGET
SOUND REGIONAL COUNCIL AND OTHER
FORUMS. WE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO
COMPARE NOTES ON OUR ENGAGEMENT.
I WOULD SAY THAT, BY AND LARGE,
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE
BEEN DOING THAT OUR NEW THINGS
THAT HAVE SET A MODEL FOR SOME
OTHER JURISDICTIONS. I DON'T
WANT TO SAY THAT -- I KNOW THERE
WAS A LOT OF GOOD WORK THAT
OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO THAT WE
LEARN FROM BUT I THINK WE HAVE
HAD THE RESOURCES AND SOME OF
THE CONVERSATION WITHIN OUR
CITY. OR EXAMPLE, THIS CONCEPT
OF CONTRACTING WITH
COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS IS
SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT THE
STATE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE HAS
REACHED OUT TO US FOR GUIDANCE
ON HOW WE DID THAT, BOTH
LOGISTICALLY AND HOW WE WORKED
IT INTO OUR POLICY. OTHER CITIES
HAVE REACHED OUT TO US TO LEARN
FROM WHAT WE HAVE DONE. SOME OF
THE ONLINE TOOLS WE HAVE USED
FOR ENGAGEMENT, WE ALL STARTED
THIS PROCESS -- I CHUCKLE
BECAUSE WE ALL REMEMBER BACK IN
2022 OR SO, WE WERE STILL VERY
MUCH IN HYBRID WORLD. WOULD WE
DO THESE MAJOR UPDATES WITH
SUSTAINABILITY TO HAVE MANY
IN-PERSON MEETINGS. WE DID
COMPARE NOTES WITH OTHER CITIES
ON THAT AND WE DID LEARN FROM
EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF THE
TOOLS, WHAT SOFTWARE WE WERE
USING, HOW WE WERE REACHING OUT
TO PEOPLE, HOW WE WERE HAVING
TRUE INTERACTION WITH THE
PUBLIC, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT
CAN COME WITH THE ONLINE FORMAT.
THOSE ARE TWO AREAS WHERE WE DID
DO INFORMAL COLLABORATION BUT I
LOOK FORWARD TO REVIEWING, AS WE
ARE FINISHING UP THE COMP PLAN,
LEARNED FROM ALL OF OUR EFFORTS
AND WE COULD CERTAINLY COME BACK
TO CANCEL AND TALK ABOUT WHAT
SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES AND
WHAT WE COULD DO GOING FORWARD.
THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME WE
WILL DO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR A
LARGE LAND-USE POLICY EFFORT IN
THE CITY.
>> HE IT. NO. THANK YOU FOR
THAT. YES, WE DO NOT NEED TO
RE-CREATE THE WHEEL AND WE CAN
LEVERAGE OUR CHAIR OF LEARNING
BETTER ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS.
MY NEXT QUESTION GOES TO HOW
SOME SPECIFIC FEEDBACK WAS
INCORPORATED. YOU TALK ABOUT
THAT IN THE PRESENTATION WHICH,
THANK YOU. YOU INDICATED THAT
THERE WAS SPECIFIC FEEDBACK TO
GO BIGGER, BOLDER, MORE
AGGRESSIVE, IF YOU WILL AND IN
PART TO ADDRESS MISSING MIDDLE
HOUSING, TO GO MORE ABOVE, ON
TOP OF WHAT THE STATE
REQUIREMENTS ARE AND, I THINK,
IN ONE OF THE FOLLOWING SLIDES,
YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE DONE THAT
IN PART I GOING FROM 20 FOR TO
30 NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, AMONGST
OTHER CHANGES. YOU ALSO
MENTIONED THAT YOU HEARD SOME
FEEDBACK ON THE OTHER END OF THE
SPECTRUM AND -- PERTAINING TO
CONCERNS AROUND DENSITY AND
PRESERVING THE UNIQUE CHARACTER
AND FEEL OF WHAT EACH
NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT LOOK LIKE .
SO, JUST CURIOUS TO BETTER
UNDERSTAND -- A TWO PART
QUESTION. WITH RESPECT TO THOSE
LETTER CONCERNS AROUND DENSITY
AND PRESERVING EACH
NEIGHBORHOOD'S UNIQUE FEELS,
HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT BALANCING
THAT DELICATE NEEDLE, SO TO
SPEAK, IN THIS PROPOSED PLAN.
QUESTION ONE. DO YOU
SPECIFICALLY ANTICIPATE THAT YOU
WILL FURTHER ADDRESS SOME OF
THOSE CONCERNS UNDER THE PENDING
LEGISLATION IN MARCH AND MAY, I
BELIEVE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER, CAN YOU REPEAT
THE FIRST QUESTION?
>> HE IT. IT IS AROUND DENSITY .
DID YOU GO ABOUT ADDRESSING SOME
OF THOSE CONCERNS WITH RESPECT
TO THIS PROPOSED PLAN THAT IS
BEFORE US NOW AND THEN, HOW DO
YOU ANTICIPATE FURTHER
ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS, IF AT
ALL IN THE PENDING LEGISLATION
THAT IS SUPPOSED TO DROP IN
MARCH AND MAY, I BELIEVE?
>> HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING
CONCERNS RELATED TO DENSITY IN
THE LEGISLATION WE ARE SENDING
DOWN? I WOULD SAY A COUPLE OF
THINGS. IN COLLABORATION WITH
THE CE, WHAT THE
DESIGN OF PLAN THAT WE TRIED
TO BALANCE, WE OBVIOUSLY ARE
OBLIGATED TO COMPLY WITH HB 1110
. THAT IS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE. I
THINK BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE
LOOKED AT THE PUGET SOUND
REGIONAL COUNCIL REQUIREMENTS
FOR PROVIDING A FRAMEWORK FOR
THE CITY AND DIVIDING SOME
RATIONALE AND BASIS FOR WHERE WE
BELIEVE THAT GROWTH CAN AND
SHOULD OCCUR AND TRYING TO
THREAD THE NEEDLE BETWEEN THE
PROPOSALS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTERS, EXPANSION OF URBAN
CENTERS, EXPANDED DENSITY A LONG
CORRIDOR'S , TO DO THAT IN A
SURGICAL SORT OF WAY AND TO BE
INFORMED BY THE EXISTING FABRIC
OF NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK THAT
WHAT WE ARE HEARING IS THAT SOME
PEOPLE THINK THAT WE GOT IT
RIGHT AND SOME PEOPLE THINK WE
NEED TO DO MORE. SOME PEOPLE
THINK WE NEED TO DO LESS. WE
HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TAILOR OUR
APPROACH AS IT RELATES TO THE
COMPONENTS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN
THE LEGISLATION. OBVIOUSLY, THE
LEGISLATION WE WOULD BE GETTING
IN MAY, RELATED TO THE CORE
DOORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS,
WE ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT
NOW. I AM NOT SURE IF THAT
ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
>> IT IS FINE, FOR NOW. LET'S
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION
OFF-LINE. I AM INTERESTED IN
HEARING HOW THE DEPARTMENT
INTENDS -- THEY WILL SEE THAT
DURING THE FINAL LEGISLATION
THAT ENDS UP BEING TRANSMITTED.
IN ANY EVENT, MOVING ON. MY
FINAL QUESTION PERTAINS TO
MAILING MAILERS. WE TALKED ABOUT
THE OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE AND
TARGETED OUTREACH AND EFFORTS TO
REACH BROADER AUDIENCES, NOT
JUST POLICY WANTS . WE TALKED
ABOUT EARNED MEDIA, WHICH IS
GREAT. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE
LIMITATIONS WITH EARNED MEDIA. I
WANT TO TALK -- GET YOUR
THOUGHTS ON MAILERS. WE HAVE ALL
BEEN HEARING A LOT OF FEEDBACK,
WHICH I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE
FEEDBACK, THE TREMENDOUS
FEEDBACK WE HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR
FROM THE PUBLIC. VERY
INSIGHTFUL, VERY EMPOWERING FROM
MY PERSPECTIVE. KEEP IT COMING.
A FEW THINGS -- ONE SPECIFIC
PIECE OF FEEDBACK THAT I HAVE
HEARD A FEW TIMES NOW, IN
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WRITTEN
COMMENT, AND I HAVE HEARD IT
FROM A FEW OF MY CONSTITUENTS IN
DISTRICT 1 AS WELL, IS THAT ,
PEOPLE WISH THERE WOULD HAVE
BEEN SOME SORT OF ORGANIZED
MAILERS. THE CITY SHOULD HAVE
SENT A MAILER THAT SAID, YOUR
NEIGHBORHOOD IS SUBJECT TO
REZONE OR SOMETHING IN A
CONSPICUOUS NOTICE, TYPE OF BOLD
PRINT OF SOME SORT, WHICH I
THINK IS A REALLY INTERESTING
IDEA. MAILERS ARE EXPENSIVE BUT
DOING SOME SORT OF OUTREACH
COULD POTENTIALLY BE HELPFUL. I
GUESS, A TWO PART QUESTION. DID
YOU DO ANY MAILERS AS PART OF
THIS OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT
STRATEGY WHATSOEVER? AND THEN,
SECOND PART IS, WHAT DO YOU
THINK OF THAT IDEA OF ENGAGING
IN MAILER TARGETED OUTREACH?
>> TO THE FIRST QUESTION, NO, WE
DID NOT DO ANY MAILERS. TO THE
SECOND QUESTION, WHAT WE THINK
ABOUT MAILERS, I THINK -- WOW. I
DON'T KNOW IF IT MATTERS WHAT I
THINK ABOUT MAILERS. I THINK
THAT THE QUESTION IS, ARE
MAILERS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL TO GET
FOLKS ENGAGED? I THINK WHEN WE
LOOK AT HOW WE WERE DOING, WHAT
THE CONSTRAINTS ON OUR BUDGET
WERE, WE DID RESEARCH ABOUT
DOING A CITYWIDE MAILER AND AS
YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR COMMENTS,
IT IS PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE TO
MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO, WE MADE A
CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT WE WOULD
INVEST OUR DOLLARS IN THE OTHER
FORMS OF ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DID
DO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY
. BUT, I HAVE HEARD SOME OF THE
SAME. I DID NOT GET ANYTHING IN
MY SNAIL MAIL. I HAVE HEARD SOME
OF THE SAME COMMENTS.
>> THANK YOU. NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MADAM
CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
SAKA. NEXT, WE HAVE
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA FOLLOWED BY
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. COUNCIL
MEMBER RIVERA?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND
THANK YOU, OPCD FOR BEING HERE
TODAY. I AM GOING TO ECHO SOME
OF THE COMMENTS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES BUT I WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT I ADD MY VOICE FOR THE
RECORD. YOU HAVE HEARD ME SAY
BEFORE ABOUT MY FRUSTRATION ON
THE LACK OF
AND MORE
OF INFORMATION THAT LED TO SO
FEW COMMENTS IN THE SPRING
VERSUS THE FALL. IN THE SPRING,
YOU GOT ABOUT 1200, AS YOU
STATED TODAY, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IN THE FALL, YOU GOT OVER 5000
AND I BELIEVE THAT IS BECAUSE
YOU PROVIDED MORE INFORMATION TO
CONSTITUENTS BASED ON FEEDBACK
YOU RECEIVED FROM US AND PERHAPS
SOME CONSTITUENTS AT THOSE
LISTENING SESSIONS IN THE
SPRING. THEY WERE NOT MAPPED BY
WHICH PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE
PROPOSALS WERE . DIRECTOR, YOU
AND I HAVE CHATTED ABOUT THAT
AND WE WERE TOGETHER AT THAT
FALL SESSION WHERE FOLKS GAVE
THAT FEEDBACK, AT THE POINT OF
WHICH THOSE MAPS WERE RELEASED,
THEN PEOPLE KNEW HOW THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE IMPACTED
AND THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE
FEEDBACK. UNFORTUNATELY, THE
FEEDBACK WAS TOO LATE TO
INCORPORATE IN THE ACTUAL PLAN,
WHICH I HAVE TO SAY, WHEN I GOT
HERE IN JANUARY AND SHORTLY IN
THE SPRING, WAS WHEN THE FIRST
SET OF SESSIONS HAPPENED. EVEN I
DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE
COMMUNITY DID NOT GET FEEDBACK
IN THE SPRING, IT WOULD NOT BE
INCORPORATED IN THE PLAN. IN
FACT, YOUR TEAM TOLD ME THE
OPPOSITE . THERE WOULD BE
ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE
FEEDBACK AND WE WOULD PUBLISH
THE MAPS LATER. THAT IS TRUE,
YOU PUBLISHED THE MAPS BUT IT
WAS NOT ABOUT THE PLAN, IT WAS
ABOUT THE ZONING PEACE. THOSE
ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I
THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY -- THAT
FRUSTRATION YOU ARE HEARING IS
BECAUSE WE ARE HEARING
FRUSTRATION FROM OUR
CONSTITUENTS ABOUT, OR MANY OF
US ARE, OR MANY OF US, IS THAT
PEOPLE WERE CONFUSED ABOUT THE
PROCESS AND BY THE TIME THEY GET
FEEDBACK, IT WAS TOO LATE TO
INCORPORATE IN THE ACTUAL PLAN
WHICH SOME PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
WANTED RATHER THAN JUST AS PART
OF THE CHANGES TO ZONING
LEGISLATION. SO, THAT IS THE
COMMENT I WILL MAKE ABOUT THAT.
I WILL SAY, ALSO , THAT THE LACK
OF BROAD ENGAGEMENT, I WAS ALSO
TOLD BY OPCD TO TELL
CONSTITUENTS TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO
YOU ALL BY KNOWING THAT -- WHAT
I KNOW NOW BACK IN THE SPRING, I
WOULD HAVE ENGAGED IN A NUMBER
OF PUBLIC SESSIONS. I WOULD HAVE
INVITED OPCD TO SO THAT YOU
COULD HAVE GOTTEN BROADER
ENGAGEMENT. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE
YOU REACHED THESE 1200 COMMENTS
ABOUT, AND THEN YOU HAD SOME
COALITIONS WHO WROTE LETTERS AND
MORE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
PROBABLY MORE ENGAGED IN THESE
THINGS AS LOCAL PEOPLE , AS MY
COLLEAGUES DESCRIBE. YOU MADE
CHANGES TO THE PLAN BASED ON
WHAT I BELIEVE SHOULD BE LIMITED
FEEDBACK. I ALSO WANT TO SAY
THAT WHEN I TALKED TO
CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT 4,
PEOPLE SUPPORT HE HAD KNOWLEDGE
THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING ACROSS
THE CITY AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF
CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE KIDS THAT
CAN'T AFFORD TO COME BACK AND
LIVE WHERE THEY GREW UP. THERE
IS BROAD SUPPORT FOR MORE
HOUSING ACROSS THE CITY. THE
FRUSTRATION AROUND THIS OUTREACH
PIECE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A
LACK OF SUPPORT FOR MORE
HOUSING. I WILL SAY THAT FOLKS
UNDERSTAND HB 1110, THE LAW OF
THE LAND. I AM GOING TO BE DOING
THAT. PEOPLE WERE CAUGHT OFF
GUARD BY THE ADDITIONAL PIECE TO
HB 1110 AND I THINK PEOPLE WERE
NOT AWARE THAT THAT WAS
HAPPENING UNTIL MUCH LATER AND
THEN THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS TOO
LATE. IF THAT INFORMATION HAD
COME EARLIER, I DON'T THINK WE
WOULD BE GETTING AS MUCH
FRUSTRATION, DEFINITELY FROM ME
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FROM MY
CONSTITUENTS. THE FRUSTRATION I
HAVE IS TRYING TO PASS ON THE
INFORMATION I AM HEARING. I
THINK PEOPLE WOULD HAVE FELT
THEY WERE IN A BETTER PLACE IF
THEY HAD BEEN BROUGHT ALONG
THROUGH THE PROCESS. THAT REALLY
HAS BEEN THE SOURCE OF
FRUSTRATION, NOT A LACK OF
SUPPORT FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING.
I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME
PIECES, AND YOU HAVE NOTED,
MICHAEL, WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH
THE SOURCES OF CONCERN RELATED
TO TREES AND TRANSPORTATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT THEY ARE
THINGS THAT PEOPLE VERY MUCH
CARE ABOUT. I AM GLAD TO SEE
THAT YOU HAVE NOTED IT HERE. MY
BIG QUESTION IS , HOW ARE YOU
GOING TO ADDRESS -- THESE WERE
NOT ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN
BECAUSE YOU DID NOT GET THESE IN
THE SPRING. IF YOU HAD RECEIVED
THIS AND PUT IN THE SPRING,
PERHAPS HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO INCORPORATE SOME CHANGES IN
THE PLAN THAT WOULD HAVE
ADDRESSED THESE CONCERNS. NOW,
WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. WE CAN'T
GO BACK IN TIME. WE HAVE HEARD
HIM COLLEAGUES ASKING HOW YOU
WILL INCORPORATE THESE CONCERNS
AS PART OF THE ZONING CHANGES
THAT YOU WILL BE SENDING
DOWNSTAIRS. DIRECTOR, I THOUGHT
I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU COULD
STILL INCORPORATE -- WE ARE NOT
AS FAR ALONG WITH THE DRAFT
PLAN. WE WILL BE USING
INFORMATION TO INFORM CHANGES. I
DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS BECAUSE
IF A PLAN GETS APPEALED, THERE
WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO
INCORPORATE CHANGES TO THE PLAN
OR IF YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE
COUNCIL CAN AMEND THE PLAN OR IF
YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE ZONING
LEGISLATION. I JUST WANT TO BE
CLEAR ON WHEN YOU SAY CHANGES,
WHAT YOU MEAN EXACTLY, FOR
CLARITY.
>> SURE. WE ARE WORKING ON
CHANGES RELATED TO PHASE -- WE
ARE NOT CALLING IT BASIS
ANYMORE. SORRY. RELATED TO THE
CORRIDORS AND CENTERS
LEGISLATION. THAT IS THE
LEGISLATION IN MAY. WE ARE
CURRENTLY WORKING ON CHANGES TO
THE PLAN ITSELF, WHICH HAS
ALREADY BEEN TRANSMITTED , NOT
THE ADOPTED LEGISLATION, THOUGH
WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT AS
WELL. I GUESS -- DOES THAT HELP?
>> YES. SO, THE PLAN YOU ARE NOT
GOING TO MAKE CHANGES TO. THE
PLAN IS WHAT IT IS. THE ZONING
LEGISLATION, YOU ARE GOING TO
INCORPORATE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK
YOU HEARD INTO THE ZONING
LEGISLATION THAT YOU SENT OUT.
CORRECT?
>> YES. I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE
THE PLAN HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED TO
COUNCIL , I THINK WE ARE SO OF
THE MINDSET THAT, IN YOUR
CONVERSATION WITH US, THERE ARE
OTHER CHANGES TO THE PLAN THAT
IS NOW IN YOUR HANDS. WE WANT TO
BE ABLE TO HELP AS IT RELATES TO
YOUR ANALYSIS OF THOSE, THE HIGH
LEVEL POLICY WORK THAT HAS BEEN
THE PLAN ALSO. WE ARE NOT
CHANGING THAT TEXT LANGUAGE
RIGHT NOW BUT THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT WE WILL WORK ON.
>> I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON
THIS. THE RANGE OF CONCERN AND
ISSUES THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN
THE COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT YOU
ARE REFERRING TO, THAT RANGE OF
ISSUES I WOULD SAY, PRIMARILY
CAN BE ADDRESSED AND WOULD BE
ADDRESSED THROUGH THE ZONING
LEGISLATION. THESE ARE A LOT OF
VERY PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT
RELATE TO THE OUTCOMES OF
DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE SHAPED BY
ZONING. HOUSE BILL 1110 ZONING,
THE OTHER LEGISLATION ON ZONING
, THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD BE
LOOKING FOR WHERE YOU WOULD BE
LOOKING AS A COUNCIL AND
OFFERING AN AMENDMENT , BUT THAT
LEGISLATION WILL HAVE THE
BIGGEST IMPACT ON EVERYTHING
FROM TREES TO PARKING TO OTHER
ISSUES. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
IS A HIGHER LEVEL POLICY
DOCUMENT AND EVEN WHERE THERE U
CONSIDERING BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENTS
TO THE COMP PLAN, THERE IS
LATITUDE IN THE DIRECTION ON
ZONING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER
TAILORING EVEN THE BOUNDARIES
YOU SEE ON THE GROWTH STRATEGY.
REBUILT IN SOME FLEXIBILITIES SO
YOU COULD CONSIDER THE MORE
DETAILED PROPOSAL IN THE ZONING
LEGISLATION TO RESPOND
ESPECIALLY TO THE GRANULAR
COMMENTS YOU HAVE GOTTEN FROM
YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. I WILL
SAY THAT THE COMP PLAN, IT IS A
POLICY DOCUMENT AND IT DOES
STATE VERY CLEARLY WHAT WE WILL
BE DOING. IN AS FAR AS IT IS
THAT BROADER POLICY THING,
CONSTITUENTS ARE CONCERNED THAT
THESE CONCERNS, LIKE TREES AND
INFRASTRUCTURE AND
TRANSPORTATION WERE NOT
ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED IN THE SPAN
THAT IS THE ROADMAP FOR HOW WE
WILL BE DOING ZONING
LEGISLATION. I THINK
CONSTITUENTS UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
CAN ALWAYS MAKE CHANGES AT THE
POINT OF WHERE YOU ARE DOING THE
ZONING LEGISLATION. THEY WOULD
HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN IN THE
PLAN SOME OF THESE CONCERNS
ADDRESSED BECAUSE THEY THEN FEEL
LIKE IF IT IS NOT IN THE PLAN,
WHICH I KNOW GETS UPDATED EVERY
10 YEARS, THERE IS A DISCOMFORT
IN KNOWING THAT THERE ARE THINGS
IN THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE
CONCERNS WITH . IF WE HAD
STARTED THIS PROCESS EARLIER, AS
I SAID EARLIER, YOU MIGHT HAVE
INCORPORATED SOME OF THE ISSUES
LIKE TREES OR TRANSPORTATION IN
THE PLAN BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN BE
ADDRESSED ON THE BACK END WITH
THE ZONING LEGISLATION BUT FOLKS
WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE TWEAKS
MADE TO THE PLAN THAT WOULD BE
MORE IN LINE WITH A BALANCED
APPROACH THAT THEY WOULD HAVE
LIKED TO HAVE SEEN. I THINK THAT
IS FAIR, FOR CONSTITUENTS TO
HAVE EXPECTED THAT.
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
OBVIOUSLY IN THE PLAN, THERE ARE
NUMEROUS POLICIES BOTH RELATED
TO TRANSPORTATION AND RELATED TO
TREES. I THINK WHAT I HEAR YOU
SAYING IS THAT THERE IS AN
INTEREST BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO
MODIFY SOME OF THAT POLICY
LANGUAGE. I THINK BEFORE THE
PLAN IS ADOPTED, BECAUSE IT
ISN'T ADOPTED, I THINK THERE IS
STILL THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
OTHER CHANGES.
>> CORRECT BUT THAT WOULD BE AT
THE COUNCIL LEVEL. YOU GUYS NEED
TO DO THE WORK TO MAKE SURE
THOSE CHANGES WERE INCORPORATED
BECAUSE YOU DID NOT HAVE THE
BROAD COMMENTS IN THE SPRING
THAT YOU WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO
MAKE THOSE CHANGES BEFORE YOU
SEND IT TO US.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING.
>> IT IS WHAT IT IS AT THIS
POINT IN TIME. THAT IS WHAT
FOLKS ARE VERY FRUSTRATED BY.
THEY DID NOT FEEL LIKE
ENGAGEMENT WAS EARLY AND ROBUST,
BROADLY AND ONLY SOME VOICES GOT
HEARD.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA. NEXT WE HAVE
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR . THANK YOU
FOR THE PRESENTATION AND
ANSWERING OUR TOUGH QUESTIONS.
SO, LET ME JUST TRY TO NAIL YOU
DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I HEAR
A LOT OF CAREFUL PARSING OF
ANSWERS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT
THERE IS THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND
YOU ANSWER TO A PARTICULAR
DIFFERENT AUTHORITY THAN THE
COUNCIL BUT THAT SAID, WHAT I
WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY --
THIS IS RELATING TO NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTERS, WHICH I WILL NOTE, HB
1110 DOES NOT REQUIRE
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS.
>> CORRECT.
>> I WILL ALSO NOTE THATPROPOSE
DISTRICT 5, TWO OF WHICH SEEM
FINE AND A THIRD WAS
CONTEMPLATED AND WAS NOT PUT IN.
I DON'T ENTIRELY KNOW WHY. I
THINK THAT WAS A MISSED
OPPORTUNITY. YOU MIGHT BE
LOOKING AT INCLUDING IT. THAT
SAID, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE
COMMENTS THAT YOU RECEIVED SINCE
THE FALL CAN NOW BE UTILIZED TO
CHANGE THE LEGISLATION THAT YOU
SEND DOWN TO REMOVE CERTAIN
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS
DESIGNATION, SPECIFICALLY LIKE
MAPLELEAF? CAN YOU -- IN THE
LEGISLATION YOU ARE SENDING
DOWN, CAN YOU REMOVE THAT
DESIGNATION? CAN YOU REMOVE THE
MADRONA DESIGNATION?
>> WE ARE NOT REMOVING ANY OF
THE DESIGNATIONS.
>> OKAY. YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY
UTILIZING ANY OF THE FEEDBACK
THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED FROM
SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY LIVE
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IS PROPOSED.
IS THAT CORRECT? YOU ARE LEAVING
THAT TO COUNCIL TO DEAL WITH?
>> I WOULD SAY, WHILE WE ARE NOT
REMOVING ANY OF THE
DESIGNATIONS, WE ARE STILL IN
THE ACTIVE PROCESS OF ANALYSIS
AND CONSIDERATION RELATED TO THE
ZONING WITHIN THE DESIGNATION.
>> RIGHT. WHICH LEADS ME TO MY
NEXT QUESTION. WHY WOULD YOU
BOTHER DESIGNATING IT AS A
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IF YOU ARE
THEN GOING TO ZONE IT DOWN? WHY
SHOULD WE TRUST THAT WE
DESIGNATED A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER
AND THEN 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD,
IT DOESN'T GET FULLY BUILT UP
AS A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND WE
CHANGE THE ZONING? TO ME, THAT
MAKES NO SENSE TO DESIGNATE
SOMETHING A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER
WHICH HAS A PARTICULAR -- THERE
ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT NEED
TO EXIST FOR SOMETHING TO BE
DESIGNATED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTER AND THEN TO CHANGE THE
ZONING TO BRING IT DOWN TO
SOMETHING THAT IS MORE PALATABLE
TO THE PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT.
WHY NOT JUST REMOVE THE
DESIGNATION?
>> SORRY, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER
DESIGNATION DOESN'T DESIGNATE
WHAT THE LEVEL OF DENSITY IS
WITHIN THE CENTER ITSELF. I
THINK WE HAVE HAD THIS
CONVERSATION IN THE PAST. ALL
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS ARE NOT
EQUAL FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS,
LIKE, WHAT IS THERE
PRE-EXISTING, WHAT IS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING
AREA, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THERE
WERE VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND
I APOLOGIZE THAT I DON'T HAVE
IT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW BUT
WE CAN GET IT TO YOU. THERE WERE
VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT WERE
USED TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THE
CENTERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY
CONSIDERED WITHIN THE EIF AND
THEN THE ONES THAT WERE
INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN. THE
REASON I REFER TO THE
CONTEMPLATION OF ZONING WITHIN
THE CENTERS, THAT ADDITIONAL
LEVEL OF DENSITY OR CAPACITY FOR
GROWTH BEYOND WHAT IS IDENTIFIED
IN HB 1110 , THE INTENT WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS IS TO
ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT EXISTS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY AND
SUGGEST THAT THERE IS THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL
GROWTH TO BUILD ON WHAT IS THERE
TODAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS
HELPFUL.
>> ACTUALLY, I RESPECTFULLY
DISAGREE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN
HEARING YOU HAVE PRESENTED THAT
THE BASE -- ONE OF THE REASONS
YOU WERE PURSUING NEIGHBORHOOD
CENTERS WERE SO YOU COULD BUILD
FIVE AND SIX STORY BUILDINGS AND
THAT THE ZONING -- THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IS WHAT
DRIVES THE ZONING AND THAT IS
WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT FIVE AND
SIX. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT
THREE AND FOUR. WHAT I AM
HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT WE CAN
NEGOTIATE. YOU GIVE US THE
DESIGNATION AND WE WILL
NEGOTIATE THE HEIGHT. MY
POSITION IS, WHY BOTHER
NEGOTIATING THE HEIGHT? I THINK,
DOWN THE ROAD, WE ARE LOOKING AT
KEEPING THE DOOR OPEN TO PUTTING
UP FIVE AND SIX STORY BUILDINGS
BECAUSE WE HAVE ZONED IT AWAY.
THAT IS NOT A SUFFICIENT
RESPONSE. SECONDLY, I WANT TO
KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT
TREES? THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS,
EVEN FROM THE SCREEN, ABOUT
TREES AND I DON'T SEE ANY KIND
OF SPECIFIC POLICY OR STRATEGY
TO DEAL WITH TREES. SIMPLY
SAYING WE ARE GOING TO PUT TREES
IN THE PARKING STRIPS IS
RIDICULOUS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT
GOING TO HAVE PARKING, FOR ONE
THING. ALSO, AS WE SEE IN THE
BEACON HILL WHERE THEY JUST HAD
TO TAKE HIM 30 OR 40 TREES IN
ORDER TO REDO THE DRAINAGE
SYSTEM THERE , THE RIGHT OF WAY,
YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO PRESERVE
TREES. WHERE EXACTLY ARE YOU
TAKING ALL OF THIS VERY, VERY
CONCENTRATED AND -- I WOULD SAY
-- ACROSS THE CITY COMMENTS
ABOUT TRULY, TRULY PRESERVING
TREE CANOPY. I AM NOT TALKING
ABOUT REPLACING A 50 OR 100 YEAR
OLD TREE WITH THREE SAPLINGS.
THAT IS NOT COMPARABLE. WHERE IS
THAT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE
LEGISLATION THAT COMES DOWN TO
US IN MAY?
>> THE ANSWER, WHERE IS IT GOING
TO BE IN THE LEGISLATION IN MAY,
I AM NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION.
>> SO RIGHT NOW -- OBVIOUSLY, I
TAKE FROM THAT ANSWER THAT THERE
IS NO INTENT TO ADDRESS THE TRUE
CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING
ADDRESSED ACROSS THE CITY ABOUT
TREES. THANK YOU. THE NEXT THING
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS --
>> COUNCILMEMBER, I HAVE
SOMETHING TO ADD. I DO WANT TO
-- WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THE
COMMENTS ON TREES, SOME OF WHICH
PERTAIN TO THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN. SOME OF THEM PERTAIN TO
THE ZONING PROPOSAL. SOME OF
THEM PERTAIN TO THE CITY'S TREE
ORDINANCE. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE
AWARE BUT THE TREES ARE VERY
MULTIFACETED ISSUE. WE ARE
WORKING WITH THE CHAIR,
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH, TO
CONSIDER HOW WE COULD BRING A
MORE COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION
ABOUT TREES AND HOW THAT
INTERSECTS WAS THE COMP PLAN AND
STRATEGY AT A LATER MEETING.
DEFINITELY NOT TRYING TO
SIDESTEP THAT AT ALL. WE TAKE IT
VERY SERIOUSLY AND WE COULD COME
BACK AND GIVE YOU A LOT OF
INFORMATION AND HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. IT SEEMS A
LITTLE LATE IN THE DAY WHEN
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
THIS BUT NONETHELESS, LATER IS
BETTER THAN NEVER SO I
APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO FEEL
LIKE THE ATTEMPTS TO ACCOMMODATE
A GREATER VARIETY OF TOPOLOGY IS
NOT BEING APPROPRIATELY DEALT
WITH. WE NEED TO BE DEALING WITH
INCLUDING COURTYARD COTTAGES. WE
NEED TO -- I'M NOT ENTIRELY
SURE THAT THE FAR WILL
INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD
STACK FLATS, WHICH IS AN
IMPORTANT PIECE TO THIS. I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE MORE OF HOW THAT
WILL ACTUALLY WORK. THEN, TOO AM
A COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE'S
COMMENT, I AM NOT READY TO VOTE
ON THIS. THIS IS PREMATURE .
WE'VE GOT TO VOTE ON 11-10 AND
I THINK THAT IS ABLE TO MAKE
AFFORDABILITY ISSUES WHICH IS A
CRISIS IN THIS CITY. SIMPLY
BUILDING MORE RENTAL HOUSING FOR
PRIVATE EQUITY TO OWN IS NOT THE
ANSWER. WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES
DEALING WITH THAT IN OLYMPIA.
ANYWAY, THAT IS A SEPARATE PIECE
HERE, THIS IDEA THAT WE WILL
SOLVE ALL OF THE PROBLEMS FOR
RENTERS BY JUST BUILDING A LOT
OF HOUSING. IF IT IS PRIVATE
EQUITY THAT IS OWNING IT AND
THEY GET AN EXEMPTION FOR ANY
NEW DEVELOPMENT IN 10 YEARS, YOU
ARE NOT GOING TO GET STABILIZED
RENT SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR
ABOUT THAT. BASICALLY, WHAT I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I ECHO
THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE,
COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA , THIS
PUBLIC PROCESS -- PLEASE, LET'S
NOT REPEAT THIS NEXT TIME.
LET'S DO A BETTER JOB. WE WERE
ABLE TO GET A FLYER ABOUT THE
INITIATIVE 1 B. I AM ASSUMING
SOME OF THAT WAS PRIVATE MONEY.
IF WE CAN SEND OUT A FLYER ABOUT
AN INITIATIVE ON SOCIAL HOUSING,
WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO SEND OUT
A FLYER ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN THAT IS GOING TO COMPLETELY
REMAKE THE WAY THIS CITY LOOKS
FOR THE NEXT 10 AND 20 YEARS.
NOT ONLY LOOKS BUT OPERATES. WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING
PARKING, WHICH, WE NEED TO
REMOVE PARKING BUT THAT WILL
HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE
CITY. WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB
OF BRINGING IN PUBLIC COMMENT
AND I THINK THE VERY FACT -- MY
TAKE AWAY IS THAT WHEN YOU
ACTUALLY MANAGED TO GET BROADER
ENGAGEMENT, YOU ACTUALLY FOUND
THAT THERE WAS A LOT LESS BUY
INTO THE PLAN THAT HAD BEEN PUT
FORTH. WHAT TROUBLES ME IS THAT
WHEN IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THERE
WAS LESS BUY IN FROM THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE WITH THIS
DEVELOPMENT ON THE GROUND, THERE
IS STILL NO WILLINGNESS TO TRULY
ENGAGE AND REFASHION THIS. THAT
WORK IS BEING PUT IN OUR LAPS
AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK
THAT THAT IS APPROPRIATE. IT
ALSO PITS NEIGHBOR AGAINST
NEIGHBOR, COUNCILMEMBER AGAINST
COUNCILMEMBER. IT IS NOT A ONE
SEATTLE APPROACH. PLEASE DO A
BETTER JOB NEXT TIME. I DO NOT
WANT TO BE RUSHING THROUGH THIS.
WE HAVE A DEAL WITH 11-10,
ABSOLUTELY BUT, PLEASE, LET US
HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS CITY TRULY LOOKS
LIKE WHAT IT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE
AND TRULY HAS AFFORDABILITY. I
WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE, HOW
MANY CONVERSATIONS DID YOU HAVE
WITH THE MASTER BUILDERS
ASSOCIATION? HOW MANY
CONVERSATIONS DID YOU HAVE WITH
PRIVATE DEVELOPERS AND COMING UP
WITH -- BOTH IN TERMS OF WHAT
WOULD WORK FOR THEM AND ALSO
JUST ALLOWING -- OPENING THE
FLOODGATES TO THE UNLIMITED
DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS NOT GOING
TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
MOORE. I SEE THAT COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND
RAISED BUT I WANT TO RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMEMBER -- COUNCIL
PRESIDENT NELSON . YOU HAVE NOT
SPOKEN YET. I JUST WANTED TO
RECOGNIZE IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK
BUT IF NOT, NO WORRIES. I DON'T
WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK
THAT OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD GO
FORWARD.
>> WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA
AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS
AND I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW,
WE ARE ABOUT ONE HOUR AND 45
MINUTES AND ENDS IS SCHEDULED
FOR TWO HOURS SO I JUST WANT YOU
TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
>> JUST A QUICK COMMENT ,
CONVERSELY, IF YOU HAD DONE THE
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, TRULY PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT TO RESIDENCE BROADLY,
EARLY ON, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN
THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY
WOULD HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF A
PLAN THAT WAS REALLY A ONE
SEATTLE APPROACH. IF THEY HAD
THE INFORMATION EARLY AND IF
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE ABLE TO
MAKE SOME TWEAKS TO THE PLAN
EARLY, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE
SEEN SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THESE
THINGS ANYWAY BUT PEOPLE FELT
LIKE IT WAS A VERY BACKHANDED
WAY OF DOING IT AND I NEVER WANT
TO BE IN THAT SPACE. I WANT TO
BE IN THE SPACE WHERE WE ARE
BRINGING FOLKS ALONG, NOT WHERE
PEOPLE ARE FEELING LIKE THEY
WERE NOT GIVEN CONSIDERATION AND
THEY WERE NOT GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY TWEAKS
OF ANY KIND THAT WERE IMPORTANT
TO THEM. I SAY CONVERSELY, IF
YOU HAD GIVEN THEM THAT
OPPORTUNITY, THEY WOULD HAVE
SUPPORTED SOME OF THIS STUFF
WITH MAYBE SOME MINOR TWEAKS. I
HAD THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS
FROM FOLKS IN THE DISTRICT THAT
I REPRESENT. I THINK IT IS A
MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO GET PEOPLE
ON BOARD AND REALLY GET SOME OF
THESE ISSUES ADDRESSED THAT WE
ALL SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
RIVERA. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR
HOLLINGSWORTH. I HAD A COUPLE OF
NOTES THAT I DID NOT END ON IN
MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS WHICH WAS
-- MY COMMENTS WERE REALLY,
OUTREACH IS NEVER REALLY DONE,
OUTREACH IS NOT DONE, OUTREACH
IS A CIRCULAR LOOP WHERE IT IS
NOT JUST HEARING FROM PEOPLE, IT
IS MAKING A CHOICE AND THEN
FOLLOWING UP WITH THEM AS WELL.
IN MY OWN PERSONAL AS DISTRICT 6
REPRESENTATIVE, I HAVE ALREADY
SAID THIS TO COLLEAGUES AND I AM
SAYING IT AGAIN ON THE RECORD, I
AM GOING TO BE GOING OUT AND
WALKING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS WITH
RESIDENTS. I AM TAKING OFFICE
HOURS. I HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO
MEET WITH ME ABOUT THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVERY WEEK IN
MY OFFICE HOURS, SOMETIMES
MULTIPLE OFFICE HOURS
APPOINTMENTS IN A ROW ABOUT IT.
FOR ME, OUTREACH IS NOT DONE. NO
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS. I JUST WANT TO THANK
EVERYONE FOR THEIR COMMENTS AND
ALSO, I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND OPCD. I
THOUGHT THIS WAS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT PRESENTATION TO HAVE
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE
TRANSPARENCY ABOUT INFORMATION
THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED, HOW
COMMENTS WERE BEING
INCORPORATED, WHO WAS AT THE
TABLE, WHO IS NOT, WHAT DOES
THAT LOOK LIKE, THE FEEDBACK
THAT WAS RECEIVED, AND ALSO THE
METHOD. THE METHODOLOGY IS
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT ABOUT HOW
WE ARE RECEIVING INFORMATION
FROM FOLKS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
WHAT I HAVE HEARD AND I WILL
CONTINUE TO MEET WITH PEOPLE --
I WANT TO THANK THE DIRECTOR WHO
WILL JOIN ME WITH SOME MEETINGS
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU
OPENING UP YOUR SCHEDULE TO MEET
WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS AND
ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE THAT
MIGHT HAVE -- DID COMMENTS OR
BEFORE, WE ARE TRYING TO MEET
WITH EVERYONE AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE. WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM
DISTRICT 3 AND IN OTHER
DISTRICTS IS THAT PEOPLE WANT
DENSITY TO EQUAL AFFORDABILITY
AND SOMETIMES THAT HAS NOT
MATCHED UP. WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT
THAT. WE HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE
ABOUT ANTI-DISPLACEMENT AND
WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE
CAN BE ABLE TO GROW AND LIVE
HERE IN THE CITY. IT IS NOT ONE
OR THE OTHER. I WILL CONTINUE TO
SAY THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH
PEOPLE THINK IT IS US VERSUS
THEM. NOBODY IS TRYING TO FIGHT.
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET ALONG
IN THE CITY. WE ARE DONE
FIGHTING. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE
WANT TO FIGHT AND THAT IS FINE
BUT WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET
ALONG AND MOVE FORWARD AND NOT
FEEL RUSHED. I HAVE HEARD A LOT
OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT FLAT
STACKS, WANTING THAT, FAMILY
HOUSING. WE HAVE HEARD A LOT
ABOUT THAT, THAT WE HAVE A LOT
OF ONE-BEDROOMS AND A LOT OF
STUDIOS IN SEATTLE AND PEOPLE
WANT TWO OR THREE BEDROOMS. WHAT
ARE WE DOING IN SEATTLE TO
CREATE THAT BETTER OPPORTUNITY
FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO
THAT? I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
-- THANK YOU ALL. I KNOW YOU ALL
HAVE DONE A LOT OF OUTREACH SO
FAR IN THE CITY AND I KNOW THAT
IT IS NEVER ENOUGH. TO DOUBLE
DOWN ON COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS '
COMMENT, OUTREACH IS CONSISTENT
AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE
OUTREACHING TO US BECAUSE THEY
KNOW THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT THE
COUNCIL LEVEL. THEY ARE
OBVIOUSLY GOING TO OUTREACH TO
US, THE FRONT PORCH OF CITY HALL
IS WHAT I LIKE TO CALL THE CITY
COUNCIL. WE ARE THE FIRST THING
THAT PEOPLE SEE IN THE FIRST
DOORBELL THAT PEOPLE RING, WHICH
IS FINE. SO, REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT. I ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE
WANT TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS
UP HERE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, THAT
IT IS NOT JUST THE POLITICAL
VOICES THAT ARE THE ONES
CARRYING CONVERSATIONS, THAT
THIS IS FROM THE COMMUNITY, THAT
THIS IS BIRTHED FROM PEOPLE IN
THE COMMUNITY, THAT ARE
CONNECTED TO THIS AND ARE GOING
TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS. PEOPLE,
ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE --
THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR
US TO UNDERSTAND AND FOR US TO
LISTEN TO AND I THINK YOU ALL
HAVE HEARD FROM OUR
COUNCILMEMBERS AND MY
COLLEAGUES, SOME OF THOSE
FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS BECAUSE WE
ARE GETTING THE BRUNT OF IT IN
THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE PHONE
CALLS AND EMAILS AND THE PEOPLE
TALKING TO US ON THE BUS AND THE
PEOPLE TALKING TO US ON THE
SIDEWALK AND THE PEOPLE TALKING
TO US IN CHURCH AND THE PEOPLE
TALKING TO ME IN THE GROCERY
LINE AND THE PEOPLE TALKING TO
ME RIGHT AT MY HOUSE AS THEY'RE
WALKING BY, TELLING ME ABOUT THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AS YOU CAN
SEE, I CAN TELL YOU ALL THE WAYS
IN WHICH I AM ACCESSIBLE AND HOW
PEOPLE ARE REACHING OUT. OKAY?
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> I WILL ADD TO THAT, BACKYARD
FIRES.
>> BACKYARD FIRES. AND, PEOPLE
CALLING THE MOTHER AND TELLING
ME ABOUT THAT. COULD YOU IMAGINE
A PHONE CALL FROM YOUR MOTHER
ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS?
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO THROW
THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE BEYOND
CITY HALL, NOT JUST THROUGH
EMAILS . WE ARE CONSTANTLY
HAVING CONVERSATIONS. CITY
COUNCIL IS OUR LIFE. YOU DON'T
GET TO TAKE THAT HAT OFF AND
LEAVE IT AT THE SECOND FLOOR.
YOU LITERALLY HAVE IT EVERYWHERE
YOU GO IN LIFE AND THAT IS WHAT
WE SIGNED UP FOR. WE ARE MADE
FOR IT SO I WELCOME IT BUT IT IS
HERE. ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU ALL HAVE ANY CLOSING
COMMENTS AT ALL ABOUT THE
FEEDBACK BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOU ALL COMING.
>> THE ONLY THING I WOULD CLOSE
WITH IS, I AGREE 100%. COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT DOES NOT HAVE AN AND
APOSTATE. IT IS ONGOING. THAT IS
WHY I AM MAKING MYSELF AVAILABLE
TO EVERYONE WITH THE COMMUNITY
MEETINGS, NEIGHBORHOOD WALKS. I
WANT TO BE A RESOURCE FOR ALL OF
YOU AND FOR OUR OFFICE TO BE
ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU AS YOU
LOOK AT ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND
OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE PLAN.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER
SOLOMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
RECOGNIZING ME. I JUST WANT TO
LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM ENGAGED,
I HAVE BEEN LISTENING AND I
AGREE WITH WHAT MOST HAS BEEN
SAID FROM MY COLLEAGUES
REGARDING ENGAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY
REGARDING PRESERVING OUR TREE
CANOPY, INCREASING OUR TREE
CANOPY. HER CONSTITUENTS ARE
REACHING OUT. THEY HAVE REAL
CONCERNS ABOUT THE ENTIRE
PROCESS, WHETHER THEY HAVE BEEN
HEARD, WHETHER THEIR CONCERNS
HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND
I AM LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN
BALANCE DEVELOPMENT WITH
PRESERVING TREES. I AM ALSO
MINDFUL THAT JUST BECAUSE WE
HAVE HAD THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE
WILL HAVE AFFORDABILITY. I
DEFINITELY WANT US TO HAVE
AFFORDABILITY AS WELL AS
INCREASING OUR HOUSING STOCK. AS
YOU HAD MENTIONED, COUNCILMEMBER
HOLLINGSWORTH, ABOUT FAMILY
HOUSING. THE IMPORTANCE OF
HAVING FAMILY HOUSING SO THAT
THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO KEEP
PEOPLE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS ,
THE POSSIBILITY OF GENERATIONAL
WEALTH THROUGH PROPERTY
OWNERSHIP AND THAT IS VERY
IMPORTANT TO THE POST IN MY
NEIGHBORHOODS AND DISTRICT TO
DIG. I JUST WANTED TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND I WANTED TO
SAY, THANK YOU TO THE GENTLEMAN
FOR THEIR PRESENTATION TODAY AND
THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE
PROVIDED. I AM LOOKING FORWARD
TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO
CONTINUE THAT OUTREACH SO PEOPLE
ARE INFORMED. WE WERE LOOKING AT
THINGS AT A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL.
IT IS A LOT DIFFERENT WHEN IT IS
LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WILL BE
HAPPENING ON YOUR BLOCK. THAT IS
WHERE PEOPLE ARE MORE ENGAGED IN
HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THEY
CAN DEFINITELY FEEL HEARD. I
JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT AND I
AM LOOKING FORWARD TO FURTHER
CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER,
SOLOMON. WE REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT. I DO SEE TWO HANDS.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE AND COUNCIL
MEMBER STRAUSS, I AM ASSUMING
THOSE ARE OLD HANDS. COUNCIL
PRESIDENT NELSON, YOU JUST
RAISED YOUR HAND . YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED.
>> CAN YOIN YOUR COMMENTS, YOU
THE CHANGE FROM THE FIRST DRAFT
PLAN TO THE SECOND PLAN THAT IS
NOW BEFORE US AND YOU SAID THAT
THERE WAS THE DECISION TO APPLY
HB 1110 ACROSS THE BOARD EVENLY.
THE PLAN FOR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT
CARVEOUT, SO TO SPEAK, I CAN'T
REMEMBER THE WORD YOU USED THAT,
WHEN YOU DECIDED AGAINST GOING
IN THAT DIRECTION, DO YOU KNOW
WHAT WAS THE DELTA IN UNITS OF
HOUSING ? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE FIRST ONE AND THE
SECOND ONE? NOT ALL OVER THE
CITY BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA
YOU WERE LOOKING?
>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THAT QUESTION. I DON'T RECALL
THAT WE DID RIGOROUS ANALYSIS OF
THAT. WE DID RELEASE MAPS BUT
DURING THE SPRING OF 2020 FOR,
IT SHOWS THE AREAS WHERE IT
WOULD BE APPLIED. IT IS A
RELATIVELY LIMITED AREA OF THE
CITY, NOT INSIGNIFICANT BUT IT
WAS PROBABLY IN THE 10% TO 15%
RANGE OF NEIGHBORHOOD
RESIDENTIAL AREA. IT WOULD NOT
BE A LOT OF UNITS BECAUSE
CERTAIN ANALYSIS, WE COULD
CERTAINLY, THEORETICALLY DO
THAT.
>> I AM NOT PUTTING MORE WORK ON
YOUR PLATE, I WAS JUST WONDERING
IF THE INFORMATION WAS
AVAILABLE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY
MORE HANDS . THAT IS THE END OF
THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU,
EVERYONE. THERE IS NO ITEMS ON
THE AGENDA AND I DON'T SEE ANY
OTHER BUSINESS COMING BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE. I AM GOING TO TAKE A
POINT OF PRIVILEGE. I JUST SAW
AN ARTICLE, UNFORTUNATELY,
SHOWING BROTHERS FROM WILD ROSE,
WHO IS ONE OF THE CO-OWNERS,
UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY. WILD
ROSE IS A STAPLE IN NIGHTLIFE,
OBVIOUSLY ON CAPITOL HILL AND
WHAT IT STANDS FOR AND WHAT IT
MEANS. IT IS JUST UNFORTUNATE.
SENDING THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO
THE PARTNERS AND FAMILY DURING
THIS HARD TIME. I KNOW THAT
PEOPLE ARE HURTING RIGHT NOW ON
CAPITOL HILL AND I JUST WANTED
TO TAKE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE TO
RECOGNIZE THAT IN THE MEETING.
IF THERE IS NO OTHER FURTHER
BUSINESS, THIS CONCLUDES THE
FEBRUARY 5 MEETING FOR THE
SELECT COMMITTEE OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE WILL SEE
EVERYONE BACK HERE AT 5:00 SHARP
FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS
NOW OFFICIALLY 12:56. THANK YOU.