>>> THE SUSTAINABILITY ARTS AND
CULTURE MEETING WILL COME TO
ORDER. IT'S 9:32 A.M., DECEMBER
5th, 25. I AM ALEXIS MERCEDES.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT
COUNCILMEMBER -- IS EXCUSED. [
ROLL CALL ]
>> THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS
PRESENT.
>> I'M HEARING NO OBJECTION.
THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. GOOD
MORNING, COLLEAGUES. THIS IS OUR
FINAL SUSTAINABILITY, LIGHT ARTS
AND CULTURE COMMITTEE MEETING OF
2025. ALSO A VERY SPECIAL ONE,
AS IT IS COUNCILMEMBER LYNN'S
FIRST ONE WITH US. I LOOK
FORWARD TO TACKLING ISSUES WITH
YOU AND 26. IN THAT SAME SPIRIT,
WE ARE JUST OVER A YEAR OUT FROM
THE BOMB CYCLONE THAT SLAMMED
OUR REGION IN 2024. LEAVING TWO
PEOPLE DEAD FROM FALL AND SHE'S
AND CAUSING MASS POWER OUTAGES
FOR OVER 600,000 PEOPLE ACROSS
11 WASHINGTON COUNTIES. I WANT
TO COMMEND CITY LIGHTS FOR YOUR
DUTIFUL RESPONSE AND HARD WORK
THROUGHOUT THE INCREDIBLY
CHALLENGING OUTAGE THAT AFFECTED
THOUSANDS OF OUR NEIGHBORS. ALSO
NOTE THAT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION HAS TWICE DENIED
WASHINGTON STATE'S $34 MILLION
EMERGENCY DECLARATION TO FEMA
FOR DAMAGES AND REPAIR WITHOUT
EXPLANATION. AS AN OF DATE THIS
DECISION REMAINS UNDER APPEAL,
FILED BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
ON A LIGHTER NOTE, TODAY'S
COMMITTEE HAS OUR GREEN NEW DEAL
OVERSIGHT BOARD, OUR MUSEUM
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE
CULTURAL SPACE AGENCY AND'S
DELAY REVIEW PANEL, FOLLOWED BY
A BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION WITH
CITY LIGHT ON INFRASTRUCTURE
STABILITY AND RELIABILITY. I AM
PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN
HEARING WHAT THE CONNECTION
BETWEEN OUR UTILITY
INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUTAGES ARE,
AS I KNOW MY OFFICE AND I
IMAGINE A NUMBER OF OUR OFFICES
HAVE HEARD FROM CONSTITUENTS ON
THIS TOPIC OVER THE PAST YEAR.
WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN THE
HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT . MAC.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHOULD RELATE TO
ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA OR
WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS
COMMITTEE. CLERK, HOW MANY
SPEAKERS ARE SIGNED UP TODAY?
>> CURRENTLY, WE HAVE ZERO IN
PERSON AND ZERO ONLINE SPEAKERS.
>> OKAY. CONSIDERING THERE ARE
NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS , WE WILL
PROCEED TO OUR ITEMS OF BUSINESS
FOR TODAY. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO
COMMITTEE BUSINESS. WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM 1 INTO
THE RECORD.
>> ITEM 1, APPOINTMENT 03349,
APPOINTMENT OF FATIMA HAS GREEN
NEW DEAL OVERSIGHT BOARD TO A
TERM APRIL 30th, 2028, FOR
RECENT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE
VOTE.
>> FABULOUS. THANK YOU. GETTING
OUR COLLEAGUE FROM OFFICE TO
SUSTAINABILITY FOR A MOMENT.
ONCE YOU ARE READY, IF YOU COULD
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR
THE RECORD BEFORE SPEAKING. AND
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA HAS JOINED
US. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
SAKA.
>> GOOD MORNING , COUNCILMEMBER.
MY NAME IS -- I AM THE IN TERM
CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ASSOCIATE AT THE OFFICE
OF SUSTAINABILITY AND
ENVIRONMENT . AS YOU MENTIONED,
I WILL BE INTRODUCING A GREEN
NEW DEAL OVERSIGHT BOARD TODAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, FATIMA IS NOT
ABLE TO BE HERE DUE TO THE FACT
IT IS THE LAST WEEK OF CLASSES.
SHE IS HERE IN SPIRIT AND I WILL
READ HER BIO. FATIMA IS A YOUTH
ORGANIZER, COMMUNITY ADVOCATE
AND LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE
RAINIER BEACH ACTION COALITION
WHERE SHE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, YOUTH
LEADERSHIP AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT
WORK FOR OVER SIX YEARS. BORN
AND RAISED IN SEATTLE , FATIMA
IS DEEPLY PASSIONATE ABOUT
CREATING SPACES WHERE YOUNG
PEOPLE OF COLOR FEEL SEEN,
SUPPORTED AND EMPOWERED. HER
WORK CENTERS AROUND EQUITY,
HEALING AND SHIFTING SYSTEMS TO
BETTER SERVE HISTORICALLY
UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES ,
ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH SEATTLE. SHE
IS EXCITED TO BRING COMMUNITY
VOICE AND LIVED EXPERIENCE TO
THE GREEN NEW DEAL OVERSIGHT
BOARD. HER APPOINTMENT WILL BE
FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
ORGANIZATION REPRESENTATIVE .
>> COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS
FROM THE OFFICE? THAT I THINK WE
WILL KEEP IT SHORT. THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND SHARING
A BIT ABOUT THIS APPOINTEE. IF
THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS I
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND CONFIRMATION OF
APPOINTMENT 03348. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED FOR
CONFIRMATION OF APPOINTMENT
00348. ANY FINAL COMMENTS? WILL
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION TO
CONFIRM THE APPOINTMENT?
>> [ ROLL CALL ]
>> CHAIR, THERE ARE FOUR IN
FAVOR, ZERO POST.
>> THANK YOU. THE MOTION CARRIES
AND THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION
OF THE APPOINTMENT WILL BE
CONFIRMED AND SENT TO THE
DECEMBER 16th FULL CITY COUNCIL
MEETING. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
BEING HERE. WITH THAT, WE WILL
MOVE RIGHT ALONG. WILL THE
COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE READ TWO
THROUGH SEVEN IN THE RECORD?
>> ITEMS TWO THROUGH SEVEN,
APPOINTMENTS 03350, 03352,
03349, 03353, 0351, 03354.
POINTS AS MEMBERS OF THE MUSEUM
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR
STEPHANIE ELLIS SMITH, ROBERT
HOFFMAN, DOUGLAS E MARBURG,
ROSIE TO ROMERO AND RAYMOND
THOMAS JONES FOR BRIEFING,
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU ALL
FOR BEING HERE. ONCE YOU GET
SETTLED IN PLEASE INTRODUCE
YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD BEFORE
SPEAKING.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR RINCK AND
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS,
COUNCILMEMBER LYNN AND
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS CINDY
BOLTON. ON THE CHIEF FINANCIAL
OFFICER FOR THE ART MUSEUM AND
THE STAFF LEAD FOR THE MUSEUM
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
>> AND MORNING, COUNSEL. MY NAME
IS IVY AND I AM THE DEVELOPMENT
ASSISTANT AT THE SEATTLE ART
MUSEUM .
>> AND MORNING, COUNSEL. I AM
RAYMOND THOMAS JONES . IN
CONSIDERATION FOR MEMBERSHIP TO
THE MDA COUNSELOR.
>> WONDERFUL. PLEASE PROCEED TO
THE PRESENTATION OF THE
APPOINTEES.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A NUMBER
OF REAPPOINTMENTS THAT ARE BEING
CAUGHT UP IN THIS MEETING. WE
ARE THANKFUL TO GET THEM DONE
BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. I
PREPARED COMMENTS FOR THE
APPOINTMENTS AND WILL BE
REPRESENTING THOSE FIVE VOTES.
DR. JONES HAS JOINED US THIS
MORNING, HE IS OUR NEW
APPOINTMENT AND WILL BE SHARING
SOME REMARKS AS WELL. I'M JUST
GOING TO ROLL THROUGH. IF YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF
THEM PLEASE STOP HIM. CHAIR
RINCK, DO WE WANT TO APPOINTMENT
BY APPOINTING? DO YOU WANT TO
READ THEM ONE BY ONE?
>> THE CLERK HAS ALREADY --
PLEASE KEEP THE CONTENT FOCUSED.
>> THANK YOU. THE FIRST
REAPPOINTMENT IS STEPHANIE ELLIS
SMITH. THE CEO AND FOUNDER OF
PHILANTHROPIC ADVISORY FIRM
FOUNDED IN 2017 THAT WORKS WITH
DONORS WHO ARE READY TO ACTIVATE
THEIR ASSETS FOR SOCIAL CHANGE.
AS AN ADVISOR AND SOCIAL IMPACT
SPECIALIST SHE AIMS TO BUILD A
WORLD WHERE PHILANTHROPY IS A
NURTURING AND EQUITY CENTERED
PRACTICE THAT CONNECTS WEALTH TO
THE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES THAT
NEED IT THE MOST. STEPHANIE IS
ALSO THE FOUNDER AND FORMER
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CENTRAL DISTRICT FORUM FOR ARTS
AND IDEAS, AN ORGANIZATION THAT
PRESENTS AND PRODUCES LECTURES,
READINGS AND PERFORMING ARTS,
EVENTS ROOTED IN
AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE. SHE IS
A LEADER WITH NEARLY 30 YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE IN THE NONPROFIT AND
PHILANTHROPIC CENTERS , AND HAS
SERVED AS A NONPROFIT CEO , COO,
FOUNDATION, TRUSTEE , BUSINESS
OWNER AND COMMUNITY ACTIVIST.
STEPHANIE HAS SERVED ON NUMEROUS
BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS,
INCLUDING THE WASHINGTON STATE
ARTS COMMISSION APPOINTED BY
GOVERNOR GARY LOCKE. THE SEATTLE
ARTS COMMISSION APPOINTED BY
MAYOR GREG NICKELS, AND THE
CENTRAL WATERFRONT COMMITTEE
APPOINTED BY MAYOR ED MURRAY.
SHE HAS ALSO RECEIVED NUMEROUS
AWARDS, INCLUDING PUGET SOUND
BUSINESS JOURNALS 40 UNDER 40,
AND SEATTLE WEEKLY'S BEST
EXPANDER OF CULTURAL BOUNDARIES.
STEPHANIE'S WORK AT THE
INTERSECTION OF PHILANTHROPY,
EQUITY AND SOCIAL IMPACT IS
WONDERFULLY ALIGNED WITH CORE
VALUES AND WE ARE EXCITED TO
HAVE HER PERSPECTIVE ON THE MDA.
NEXT UP IS ROBERT D KAPLAN, OR
AS I KNOW HIM, BOB KAPLAN, WHO
IS ALSO A LONGTIME SAM TRUSTEE.
HE IS A YOU DUMB GRAD WITH A BA
IN POLITICAL SCIENCE AND A JD
FROM THE LAW SCHOOL. PRIOR TO
RETIRING IN HIS LEGAL PRACTICE
BOB WORKED ON CASES INVOLVING
SMALL BUSINESS, CHARITABLE
ORGANIZATIONS, ARTISTS AND
AUTHORS AND WAS RECOGNIZED BY
THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION FOR
HIS PRO BONO WORK. HE HAS SERVED
ON NUMEROUS BOARDS OF NONPROFIT
AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT
FOCUS ON HEALTH CARE FOR
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY AND THE
ARTS. WITH HIS WIFE, MARGARET ,
BOB IS A PASSIONATE COLLECTOR OF
AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINAL ART ,
WHICH THEY HAVE GENEROUSLY
SHARED WITH SAM FOR SEVERAL
IMPORTANT EXHIBITIONS, INCLUDING
ANCESTRAL MODERN, HONORING 50
YEARS OF -- PAINTING AND ART
FROM AUSTRALIA'S TOPIC. THE
NEXT REAPPOINTMENT IS FOR DOUG
NORBERT. DOUG IS ALSO A LONGTIME
SAM TRUSTEE, ALSO SINCE 2003.
HE'S AN ORIGINAL PARTNER AND
RETIRED VICE CHAIRMAN AND
PRESIDENT OF -- COMPANY , A
LEADING DEVELOPER IN THE PACIFIC
NORTHWEST. DOUG WAS ALSO THE
FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF
NORTHWEST TRUST AND COMMERCE
BANK. HE HAS ALSO SUPPORTED THE
BUILDING OF -- HALL AND A FORMER
PRESIDENT OF -- THEATER. I WILL
AND PERSONALLY THAT DOUG'S REAL
ESTATE AND BANKING EXPERIENCE
HAS BEEN IN VALUE ON THAT MDA
COUNSEL, GIVEN THE REAL ESTATE
STRUCTURE THAT THE MUSEUM HAS
AND THE ORIGINAL ISSUANCE OF
MUNICIPAL BONDS TO FINANCE THE
EXPANSION OF THE DOWNTOWN MUSEUM
IN 2007 AND THE TWO SUBSEQUENT
REFINANCING OF THOSE BONDS.
ROSITA HAS SERVED ON THE MDA
COUNSEL AS A MAYORAL APPOINTEE
SINCE 2007 . SHE HAS WORKED IN
EDUCATION TEACHING ARE TO
PRESCHOOL , ELEMENTARY,
GRADESCHOOL CHILDREN WITH THE
BACKGROUND IN -- AND ART
THERAPY. SHE EARNED A MASTER OF
EDUCATION FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON. ROSITA ALSO OWNED
AND DIRECTED AN ART GALLERY IN
SEATTLE FOR 15 YEARS AND WAS
APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR TO TWO
TERMS WITH COMMISSION FOR
WASHINGTON STATE ARTS . SHE IS
ALSO THE COFOUNDER OF THE --
CLUB IN THE NORTHWEST AND -- .
SHE HAS BEEN A DEDICATED --,
ALSO -- AT THE SALA CONSERVATORY
AND THE SEATTLE CHINESE GARDENS.
SHE HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN --
INTERNATIONAL AND THE -- SCHOOL
OF --. PUGET SOUND SOCIETY AND
WASHINGTON STATE -- SOCIETY. THE
LAST REAPPOINTMENT ON THE AGENDA
TODAY IS FOR ROBERT STRONG. HE
IS ALSO A LONGTIME SAM TRUSTEE
AND BOARD TREASURER. I HELPED TO
SHEPHERD SAM THROUGH THE 2000
FINANCIAL CRISIS AND WASHINGTON
MUTUAL, WHICH WAS THE
CODEVELOPER OF THE BLOCK WHERE
THE DOWNTOWN MUSEUM IS , ALONG
WITH A NOW OR FORMER RUSSELL
INVESTMENT CENTER. BOB STRONG IS
A RETIRED FINANCIAL ADVISOR.
PREVIOUSLY FINANCE ADVISOR OF
THE STRONG GROUP. PART OF THE --
COMPANY. HE HAS INCLUDED SENIOR
VICE PRESIDENT McADAMS, REAGAN,
VICE PRESIDENT REAGAN McKENZIE,
AND VICE PRESIDENT OF
INVESTMENTS AT -- WEBER. BOB
STRONG SPECIFIC ENGAGEMENTS
INCLUDE TREASURER OF THE SEATTLE
ART MUSEUM, CHAIR OF OUR FINANCE
COMMITTEE, CHAIR OF THE
INVESTMENT COMMITTEE AND MEMBER
OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF
RAINIER SCHOLARS. I WILL KICK
THIS OFF AND PASS THE MICROPHONE
TO YOU. DR. JONES IS THE NEWEST
APPOINTEE TO THE MDA COUNSEL.
THIS WILL BE HIS FIRST TERM. YOU
CAN SEE HIS WONDERFULLY
EXTENSIVE AND IMPRESSIVE CV IN
HIS PACK. HE HAS A LONG CAREER
IN THE ARTS BOTH AS AN ARTIST
AND MUSICIAN HIMSELF AND HAS
DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF IN SEVERAL
PERMANENT DEAN POSITIONS. THANK
YOU , DR. RAYMOND TYMAS-JONES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD
MORNING TO ALL OF YOU. I MEANT
DELIGHTED TO PRESENT MYSELF IN
CONSIDERATION TO BE A MEMBER OF
THE MUSEUM DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
COUNSEL. UNTIL 2024, WHEN I
RETIRED, I SPENT 34 OF MY 41
YEARS IN ARTS LEADERSHIP AND
HIGHER EDUCATION PARTS EXECUTIVE
DECISIONS THAT FIVE INSTITUTIONS
IN NORTHERN IRELAND . OHIO
UNIVERSITY, UNIVERSITY OF UTAH
AND CORNISH COLLEGE OF THE ARTS
IN MY FINAL INSTITUTION, WHERE
HE SERVED AS PRESIDENT. IN THESE
POSITIONS I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR
BUDGETS ACADEMIC INTEGRITY OF
OUR CURRICULUM. FACULTY
DEVELOPMENT. I FEEL THAT IN
DEVELOPMENT. I FEEL THAT MY
POSITIONS GIVE ME GREAT
OPPORTUNITIES TO PRESENT AND
PROVIDE MY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE
MDA GOING FORWARD AS A MEMBER. I
APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION
SINCE MOVING TO SEATTLE IN 2018.
I HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD OF
KING FM 98. PILL CHUCK ART
SCHOOL . I LOOK FORWARD TO
BRINGING THOSE EXPERIENCES TO
THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR
TODAY'S PRESENTATION AND
REFRESHING US ON THE AMAZING --
WE'VE HAD SERVING ON THE
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. BUT ALSO,
THANK YOU AGAIN , DR. JONES, FOR
BEING BEFORE COMMITTEE TODAY. AS
WE CONSIDER YOUR POINT TO THE
BOARD. WITH THAT, COLLIES, ANY
QUESTIONS? COUNSEL FOR STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. DR.
TYMAS-JONES, A LEADING --
READING YOUR CV FOR THE RECORD,
IT'S LIKE 15 PAGES. I FEEL LIKE
WE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK FOR HOURS
FOR BUT I WILL USE OUR COMMUNAL
TIME IN THAT WAY. I NOTICED THAT
YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK ACROSS
THE COUNTRY, WHETHER IT'S
BUFFALO , THE MIDWEST, SALT
LAKE, HERE IN SEATTLE. A NUMBER
OF DIFFERENT WAYS, BOTH IN THE
ADMINISTRATION BUT ALSO A
PRACTITIONER OF THE ARTS. IF YOU
COULD PROVIDE US A HIGH LEVEL
BEST PRACTICES, THINGS TO AVOID
IN BOTH ADMINISTRATION OF THESE
TYPES OF AGENCIES. FROM AN
ARTISTIC PERSPECTIVE, WHAT ARE
THE THINGS WE NEED TO AND DO
HERE IN SEATTLE THEY HAVE SEEN
ACROSS THE NATION ? THINGS THAT
ARE GOING WELL ACROSS THE NATION
THAT WE SHOULD DO BETTER AND
THINGS THAT WE SHOULD AVOID HERE
SEEING THOSE PITFALLS ELSEWHERE.
>> I DIDN'T SPEAK TO THIS. BUT
DURING MY TIME HERE I'VE WORKED
ON A COMMITTEE FOR CULTURE. I
THINK THE CITY OF SEATTLE DOES
EXTRAORDINARY JOB WITH ITS ARTS
AND CULTURE COMMITTEE AND THE
ARTS COMMISSION. HAVING BROAD
REPRESENTATION OF THE CITIZENS
OF THE CITY , I HAVE NOT FOUND
THAT ANYWHERE ELSE TO THE DEGREE
I HAVE FOUND THAT INTENTIONALITY
HERE IN SEATTLE. SO FROM THAT
PERSPECTIVE I THINK THAT IS A
MAJOR, MAJOR PLUS FOR ARTS AND
ARTISTS TO WANT TO BE A PART OF
THIS COMMUNITY . ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WOULD BE AN ADDED
PLUS FOR THE ARTS COMMUNITY HERE
, YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THIS,
BUT HOUSING FOR ARTISTS SO THAT
THERE IS NO NEED FOR THEM TO
CONSIDER MOVING ELSEWHERE , BUT
RATHER REMAIN HERE IN THIS
COMMUNITY THAT THEY LOVE AND
CHERISH IN TERMS OF THE BROAD
OPPORTUNITIES . FROM THAT
PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT I WOULD CONSIDER. IN
TERMS OF AN ARTIST, PERSONALLY,
THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE A MYRIAD
IN THIS CITY. I WAS A SINGER. I
STOPPED ACTUALLY SINGING WHEN I
MOVED HERE TO BECOME PRESIDENT
OF CORNISH . IN ALL OF MY OTHER
POSITIONS I REMAIN ACTIVE AS A
CONCERT ARTIST BUT FOUND THAT
THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF CORNISH
WERE PROHIBITED, WERE
PROHIBITIVE IN TERMS OF TRYING
TO RUN THE SCHOOL AND TAKE TIME
OUT TO CONTINUE MY OWN ARTISTIC
DEVELOPMENT. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN
BACK TO IT, TO BE TRUTHFUL WITH
YOU, SINCE I RETIRED. I PLAN TO.
>> GOOD. WELL THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO THIS
COMMISSION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> CALLINGS, ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS?
>> SIMILARLY , I ALSO WANTED TO
REMARK ON THE 15 PAGE CV IS
QUITE IMPRESSIVE AND READING
THROUGH IT MADE ME PARTICULARLY
EXCITED TO KNOW THAT THE MUSEUM
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY WILL BE
HAVING YOUR EXPERTISE AS A PART
OF IT. I'M ALSO VERY GLAD TO
HEAR THAT YOU WILL BE TAKING UP
PERFORMING AGAIN, HOPEFULLY IN
THE NEAR FUTURE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ONE QUESTION FOR YOU TODAY,
JUST THINKING OF THE IMPORTANCE
OF THE CLR MUSEUM AS A CULTURAL
INSTITUTION IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE
CHALLENGES FACING THE
INSTITUTION? WHAT ARE THE
OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND WHAT IS
GIVING YOU HOPE OR EXCITEMENT
ABOUT SERVING ON THE MUSEUM
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY?
>> FOR ANY ARTS ORGANIZATION,
ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND TIME,
IT IS THE IDEA OF SUFFICIENT
FINANCIAL SUPPORT . BOTH OF THE
CITY GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS ITS
COMMUNITY. THAT WOULD REMAIN AS
A MAJOR CHALLENGE . IN ORDER TO
CONTINUE THE REMARKABLE
PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE , AND
THE OPPORTUNITIES TO PRESENT
ARTS AND CULTURE OF A MYRIAD OF
COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE
BOUNDARIES OF SEATTLE AND THE
PACIFIC NORTHWEST . IT IS THE
CHALLENGE OF HAVING ADEQUATE
FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE A
ROBUST PROGRAM.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THANK
YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
SERVE ON THE DEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY BOARD. AGAIN, LOOKING
AT YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOU'VE
ALREADY BEEN A VALUED COMMUNITY
MEMBER SERVING THE CITY SO I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND
YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND WITH THAT, CALLINGS, IF
THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS I WILL MOVE US ALONG.
I MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND CONFIRMATION OF THE
APPOINTMENTS. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND CONFIRMATION. ANY
FINAL COMMENTS? WILL THE
COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE CALL A
ROLE ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION TO CONFIRM THE
APPOINTMENT?
>> [ ROLL CALL ]
>> CHAIR, THERE ARE FOUR IN
FAVOR AND ZERO POST.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT
THEY POINTS BE CONFIRMED WILL BE
SENT TO THE DECEMBER 16th FULL
CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU
ALL AGAIN FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WILL LOOK COMMITTEE CLERK
PLEASE READ ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH
15 INTO THE RECORD?
>> ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 15 , A
POINTS. 03379, 03380, 03381,
03385 , 00332, 00336, 00 383 AND
00384. POINTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS
OF MEMBERS OF THE SPACE AGENCY
FOR LESLIE BAIN, AARON NATHANIEL
CARR AND ANGELA -- SO SORRY
ABOUT THE NAMES, BY THE WAY. I
PROMISE I REHEARSED. AFUA
KOUYATE , NICK RONAN AND
STEFFENS-TERRY AS --
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING BEFORE
COMMITTEE TODAY. THESE INTRODUCE
YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD.
>> YES, THANK YOU. I AM THE
DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS
AND CULTURE FOR THE CITY.
>> PLEASE PROCEED.
>> I AM NOT MAKING THIS
PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE MICHAEL
PETERSON OF THE CULTURAL SPACE
AGENCY SHOULD BE ON THE CALL TO
MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
>> WONDERFUL. AND I SEE HIM ON
THE ZOOM.
>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE. MY NAME
IS MICHAEL PETERSON. I AM MAKING
TODAY'S PRESENTATION. AS
STATED, WE WILL BE APPOINTING
NUMEROUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND
REAPPOINTING OTHERS AS WELL . I
DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE LESLIE
BAIN ON THE ZOOM WHO WILL BE
ABLE TO SHARE FOR THEMSELVES . I
BELIEVE WE ALSO HAVE -- AS WELL
AS AFUA KOUYATE. I WILL SPEAK ON
BEHALF OF THE OTHERS CURRENTLY
NOT PRESENT . CLARK IS BEING
APPOINTED TODAY AS A GOVERNING
COUNCIL MEMBER. SHE HAS
EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE
AND IS THE CEO OF NOURISHING
ROOTS, FIGHTING FOOD INJUSTICE.
WE ARE SO PRIVILEGED TO HAVE HER
AS PART OF THE GOVERNING COUNCIL
HERE WITH CULTURAL SPACE AGENCY.
NICK RONAN HAS EXTENSIVE ARTS
AND CULTURE EXPERIENCE AND HAS
BEEN A GREAT ADDITION AS WELL.
AND STEFFENS-TERRY, ANOTHER
COMMUNITY LEADER THAT HAS
CONTINUED TO FIGHT SOCIAL
INJUSTICE AND RACIAL INEQUITIES
THAT HAVE PERMEATED THE CITY. WE
ARE SO CAREFUL TO HAVE THESE
FOLKS AS PART OF THE GOVERNING
COUNCIL. AT THIS POINT IN TIME,
I WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT TO
LESLIE, AARON AND AFUA KOUYATE
TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF TODAY.
>> THANK YOU. I BELIEVE LESLIE,
YOU ARE ABLE TO COME OFF MUTE .
I BELIEVE HE'S BEEN PROMOTED AS
A PANELIST. FEEL FREE TO SPEAK
WHEN YOU'RE READY.
>> THANK YOU. THANKS SO MUCH FOR
HAVING US HERE. I'M VERY
EXCITED TO BE PART OF THE
GOVERNING COUNCIL IF SO
APPROVED. A FOUNDER OF CULTURAL
PLACE MAKING. I HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED SINCE 2013 WORKING WITH
ARTS AND CULTURE ON FOUNDATIONAL
THINKING AND DOCUMENTS FOR THE
CULTURAL SPACE AGENCY . I WORKED
WITH HIM ON THE CAP REPORT, 30
IDEAS FOR CREATION, ACTIVATION
AND PRESERVATION OF CULTURAL
SPACE, WHICH THIS IS ONE OF
THOSE 30 IDEAS. THE REPORT ON
SETTING UP THE EQUITY PROGRAM
AND SUSTAINABILITY FOR SETTING
UP CSA. THESE DOCUMENTS ARE ON
THE CITY'S WEBSITE. I HAVE BEEN
ACTIVE WITH BILLED ART SPACE
EQUITABLY SINCE THE BEGINNING
AND PART OF THE CURRICULUM
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FROM THE
FIRST COHORT. I BELIEVE STRONGLY
IN THIS MISSION AND THE VALUES
OF CSA AND ITS IMPORTANCE TO THE
CITY. SO THANK YOU FOR
CONSIDERATION.
>> THANK YOU, LESLIE. I ALSO SEE
AFUA KOUYATE'S ONLINE IS A
PANELIST.
>> YES. GOOD MORNING , COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS AFUA KOUYATE. I'M
BORN AND RAISED IN THE CENTRAL
AREA. I SPENT THE LAST 50 YEARS
BUILDING A MINISTRY OF
AFRICAN-AMERICAN MUSIC SONG AND
DANCE. CURRENTLY, WE ARE
CELEBRATING OUR 40th ANNIVERSARY
THIS YEAR . THIS IS MY SECOND
TERM ON THE GOVERNING COUNCIL. I
CURRENTLY SIT AS THE VICE
PRESIDENT . MY FIRST TERM WAS
JULY 15th, 2021 , AND I'M VERY
EXCITED ABOUT COMING IN TO A
SECOND TERM . MY PRIORITY REALLY
IS AROUND COMMITMENT AND BEING A
VOICE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS
MORNING. AND I ALSO SEE HERE IN
CAR IS ON THE LINE AS WELL. GOOD
MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
AARON CARR. I AM ORIGINALLY FROM
DETROIT, MICHIGAN BUT I HAVE
BEEN HERE WORKING IN SEATTLE FOR
ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW. I STARTED
OFF WORKING ALONGSIDE SEATTLE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS , ACADEMIC AND
BEHAVIORAL INTERVENTIONS. IN
THAT TIME I DID A LOT OF COOL
STUFF. EVEN WORKING WITH THE
DISTRICT OVERALL IN CO-DESIGNING
THE FIRST YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL
. SINCE THEN , I HAVE GOTTEN
INTO THAT ROLE AS A CONSULTANT
IN COMMUNITY, DESIGNING A LOT OF
DIFFERENT PROCESSES WHERE WE
BRING COMMUNITY MEMBERS INTO THE
FOLD AND ENSURE THAT THEIR
VOICES ARE AMPLIFIED. I HAVE
DONE THAT WORK WITH THE CITY OF
SEATTLE WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCES
DEPARTMENT IN CREATING
CURRICULUM. I ALSO AM EXCITED TO
CONTINUE TO DO THAT WORK HERE
WITH THE CULTURAL SPACE AGENCY
OF ENSURING THE ARTISTS OF THE
COMMUNITY, THEIR VOICES ARE
HEARD AND WE HAVE CULTURALLY
RESPONSIVE AND SIGNIFICANT
PROGRAMMING AND WORK THAT REALLY
REPRESENTS AND SUPPORTS THE
NEEDS OF OUR CURRENT ARTIST. I
WAS ACTUALLY IN THE CSA BASE
PROGRAM MYSELF , GRADUATED AND
THEN MOVED INTO SUPPORTING SOME
OF THE CURRICULUM DESIGN. I JUST
REALLY ENJOYED BEING ON THE
ADVISORY, ON THE GOVERNING
COUNCIL AND SHARING THAT FOLKS
CONTINUE TO GET WHAT THEIR NEEDS
ARE AND GET THEIR NEEDS MET.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE,
AARON. AND JUST DOUBLE CHECKING,
ARE THERE ANY OTHER APPOINTEES
OR RE-APPOINTEES ONLINE BEFORE I
TURN IT BACK TO THE ROOM? I
DON'T SEE ANY SO I'M GOING TO
MOVE US TO DIRECTOR -- I KNOW
YOU'RE HERE IN YOUR CAPACITY AS
AN APPOINTEE TODAY RATHER THAN
DIRECTOR. SO I WILL TURN IT TO
YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. MY ROLE ON
THE CULTURAL SPACE AGENCY, IF
APPROVED, WILL BE AS THE
MAYOR'S APPOINTEE -- A
NONVOTING MEMBER. I WILL BE
JOINING, ALSO, THE EXECUTIVE
COMMITTEE AS A WAY FOR US TO
REINFORCE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN
THE CITY AND THE CULTURAL SPACE
AGENCY. AS YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR,
THE CULTURAL SPACE AGENCY BEGAN
AS A PROGRAM WITHIN THE OFFICE
OF ARTS AND CULTURE , THEN
BECAME A PDA. LED BY COMMUNITY
AND STAFF IN THE OFFICE OF ARTS
AND CULTURE . WE HAVE HAD AN
INFORMAL RELATIONSHIP SINCE.
SOME MEETING QUITE REGULARLY FOR
CHECK-IN'S WITH THE CULTURAL
SPACE AGENCY STAFF . AND NOW WE
FELT IT WAS TIME TO FORMALIZE A
RELATIONSHIP A LITTLE BIT MORE
IN ORDER TO REINFORCE AND
PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT.
>> FABULOUS. THANK YOU,
DIRECTOR. COLLEAGUES, ANY
QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPOINTEES FOR
TODAY? COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS?
>> NO QUESTIONS. JUST GRATITUDE
FOR YOUR VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO
OUR CITY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES I'M
HAPPY TO ASK AT LEAST ONE SINCE
OUR APPOINTEES HAVE COME BEFORE
US TODAY . FOR YOU ALL, WHAT ARE
YOU EXCITED ABOUT FOR THE
CULTURAL SPACE AGENCY IN THE
NEXT YEAR? WHAT ARE YOU HOPING
TO CONTRIBUTE AND WHAT DO YOU
SEE AS THE FUTURE? HAPPY TO
WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE A STAB AT
IT FIRST.
>> YOU GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, LESLIE. I'M
REALLY EXCITED ABOUT EXPANSION.
WE'VE HAD TO PIVOT JUST
RECENTLY . SO WE ARE BACK DOWN
TO OUR RESTRUCTURING AND MAKING
THINGS WORK FOR HOW WE CAN
EXPAND. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED
ABOUT THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN RIGHT NOW TOWARD
EXPANSION. I'M EXCITED ABOUT --
BEING PART OF OUR CONSTITUENCY.
SO THAT, RIGHT THERE, IS A
WORKFORCE THAT I'M EXCITED
ABOUT.
>> THANK YOU PICK
>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. I
WOULD SAY CAPACITY BUILDING IS
WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT, GETTING
STRONGER AND REALLY PROVIDING A
VERY NEEDED SERVICE FOR
COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE OTHERWISE
DIFFICULTY GETTING THE CULTURAL
SPACE THAT MAKES OUR CITY THE
KIND OF PLACE EVERYONE WANTS TO
LIVE AND TO BE INVOLVED IN.
>> I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE
CONTINUATION AND THE BUILDING ON
SUCCESS OF THE BASE PROGRAM.
JUST KNOWING SO MANY YOUNG
ARTISTS THAT ARE EMERGING,
COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY IN THE PROGRAM,
KNOWING THAT THEY WILL BE PART
OF OUR CONSTITUENCY AND
COMMUNITY SOON AND OFFER UP
THEIR EXPERTISE IS REALLY
EXCITING TO ME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> YEAH. I BELIEVE IN THE
MISSION THAT THE CULTURAL SPACE
AGENCY, NOT JUST BECAUSE OUR
OFFICE WAS VERY MUCH A PART OF
IT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S MUCH
NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY. I'M
LOOKING FORWARD TO HELPING THE
CULTURAL SPACE AGENCY BUILD ITS
CAPACITY. THAT'S ONE THING THAT
NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED , AND
REALLY FOCUS IN ON THAT MISSION.
>> FABULOUS. I WOULD LIKE TO
THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME
THIS MORNING AND FOR YOUR
PASSION FOR CREATING MORE
CULTURAL SPACE IN OUR CITY. SO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS
TO SERVE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO
PUTTING IS A POINT IS THROUGH.
IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS , I MOVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND CONFIRMATION
OF THE APPOINTMENT. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND PICK
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND CONFIRMATION OF THE
APPOINTMENT. ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
WONDERFUL. WILL THE COMMITTEE
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
THE RECOMMENDATION TO CONFIRM
THE APPOINTMENT?
>> [ ROLL CALL ]
>> CHAIR, THERE ARE FOUR IN
FAVOR IN ZERO POST.
>> RECOMMENDS THAT THE POINTS BE
CONFIRMED SENT TO THE DECEMBER
16 FULL CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME THIS
MORNING. AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MIGHT BE TOO EARLY TO SAY
HAPPY HOLIDAYS. OH WELL. WILL
THE COMMITTEE CLERK PLEASE READ
ITEM 16 THROUGH 18 INTO THE
RECORD?
>> ITEMS 16 THROUGH 18,
APPOINTMENTS . 03361, 03360,
03359 . APPOINTMENT AND
REPAYMENTS OF MEMBERS OF THE
CITY LIGHT REVIEW PANEL FOR LEO
LAMB, TOYIN OLOWU AND GINA
CRISTINA SIMA.
>> PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO
INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE
RECORD.
>> AND MORNING, CHAIR RINCK AND
COUNSELORS. SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
COORDINATOR.
>> AND MORNING, MY NAME IS
ANGELA BERTRAND., MEMBER OF
STRATEGIC PLANNING AT SEATTLE
CITY LIGHT.
>> AND MORNING, COUNSEL NUMBERS.
MY NAME IS GINA CRISTINA SIMA
AND I AM UNDER APPOINTMENT TO
THE PANEL.
>> PERFECT. THANK YOU. WE WILL
WORK ON MOVING OVER GENERAL
MANAGER LINDEL AND I'M SEEING A
HAND FROM COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> JUST A REMINDER, HERE CITY
COUNCIL, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK
DREADFULLY INTO THE MICROPHONE
VERY CLOSELY. PLEASE MOVE THOSE
MICROPHONES CLOSER . THANK YOU
MUCH POINT
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS. IN ADDITION TO BEING
OUR HISTORIAN HE IS ALSO OUR
AUDIO TECH.
>> I ALSO FORGET SOMETIMES.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS. AND I AM SEEING GENERAL
MANAGER LINDEL ON THE LINE. IF
YOU WANT TO COME OFF OF MUTE AND
INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE
RECORD.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR RINCK. MY
NAME IS DON LINDEL AND I'M THE
GENERAL MANAGER AND CEO FOR
SEATTLE CITY LIGHT . TODAY'S
ITEMS REFLECT OUR CONTINUED
FOCUS ON ACCOUNTABILITY ,
RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF
PUBLIC ASSETS AND STRENGTHENING
LONG-TERM RELIABILITY FOR THE
CUSTOMERS WE SERVE. OUR FIRST
ITEM IS THE REVIEW PANEL
APPOINTMENT. FOR THIS ITEM YOU
WILL HEAR FROM OUR AMAZING
STRATEGIC PLANNING AND
PERFORMANCE MANAGER , ANGELA
BERTRAND , ALONG WITH OUR
WONDERFUL REVIEW PANEL MEMBERS,
OUR CHAIR , LEO LAMB, JOINED
VIRTUALLY, AND GINA CRISTINA
SIMA, ATTENDING IN PERSON. THE
ACTION BEFORE YOU INCLUDES THE
REAPPOINTMENT OF TWO CURRENT
MEMBERS AND THE APPOINTMENT OF
ONE NEW MEMBER SUPPORTING
CONTINUITY IN THE PANEL'S
INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT OF OUR
STRATEGIC PLAN AND OUR PATH. WE
ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE
CONTRIBUTIONS OF ALL OF OUR
REVIEW PANEL MEMBERS . WITH
THAT, I WILL HAND IT OFF TO
ANGELA.
>> THANK YOU. AS SHE SAID, I'M
HERE TODAY TO SEEK THE
APPOINTMENT OF THE REAPPOINTMENT
OF LEO LAMB AND TOYIN OLOWU TO
THE REVIEW PANEL, AS WELL AS THE
INITIAL APPOINTMENT OF GINA
CRISTINA SIMA TO THE REVIEW
PANEL . IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN
2010 BY ORDINANCE. THEIR ROLE IS
TO REVIEW, ASSESS -- STRATEGIC
PLAN AND THE ACCOMPANYING PATH
TO PROVIDE AN OPINION ON BOTH
WHEN THE PLAN IS SUBMITTED TO
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE CITY
COUNCIL FOR OUR APPROVAL. THE
REVIEW PANEL IS MADE UP OF NINE
MEMBERS REPRESENTING CITY LIKE
CUSTOMERS AND PARTNERS. AS YOU
CAN SEE, EACH PANEL MEMBER HAS A
ROLE. FIVE OF THESE POSITIONS
ARE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR OR ARE
ASSIGNED BY CITY COUNCIL. ALL
NINE ARE CONFIRMED BY CITY
COUNCIL. TODAY WE ARE ASKING FOR
THE REAPPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS
AND THE APPOINTMENT OF ONE NEW
MEMBER. FIRST, WE HAVE MR. TOYIN
OLOWU, WHO IS UNABLE TO JOIN US
TODAY. THE FINANCE CONTROLLER
AT THE SEATTLE STEEL DIVISION
OVERSEEING OPERATIONS FOR ONE OF
SEATTLE CITY LIGHTS LARGEST
INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS CONTRIBUTE
$29 MILLION IN ELECTRICITY
PAYMENTS IN 2023 , AND EMPLOYING
300 PEOPLE LOCALLY. WITH A
STRONG BACKGROUND IN FINANCIAL
MANAGEMENT TOYIN OLOWU HAS
COST-SAVING INITIATIVES, SUCH AS
DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS,
DEMONSTRATING BOTH FISCAL
RESPONSIBILITY AND A COMMITMENT
TO SUSTAINABILITY. HIS EXPERTISE
AND PERSPECTIVE AS AN INDUSTRIAL
CUSTOMER CONTINUE TO BRING
VALUABLE INSIGHT TO THE PANEL'S
WORK. HONOR TO SERVE A SECOND
TERM AS THE INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMER
REPRESENTATIVE , POSITION SIX ON
THE SEATTLE CITY LIGHT REVIEW
PANEL. NEXT, WE HAVE MR. LEO ,
WHO JOINS US VIRTUALLY TODAY. HE
HAS BEEN A SEATTLE RESIDENT FOR
OVER 20 YEARS AND A FORMER
ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING FACULTY
MEMBER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON. HE BRINGS EXPERTISE
, SUSTAINABILITY, ENGINEERING,
PRODUCT DESIGN, CONSULTING AND
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. HE HAS A
STRONG RECORD OF LEADING
ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH STRATEGIC
PLANNING AND COMPLEX INITIATIVES
THAT DRIVE INNOVATION,
PERFORMANCE AND GROWTH. WITH A
PASSION FOR ADVANCING CLEAN
ENERGY AND EQUITY, MR. LEO LAM
IS HONORED TO CONTINUE SERVING
HIS THIRD TERM AS A MEMBER OF
THE CITY REVIEW PANEL. IF LEO IS
ONLINE I WAS GOING TO OFFER HIM
A CHANCE TO ADD ANY THOUGHTS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'M NOT
SEEING MR. LEO LAM ON THE LINE
UNFORTUNATELY. MAYBE YOU WILL
JOIN US AS WE ARE CHATTING A BIT
WITH GINA DURING THIS PROCESS.
ANY CLOSING REMARKS ?
>> I HAVE ONE LESS PERSON TO
ADD. WE HAVE MISSED GINA
CRISTINA SIMA WITH US. SEEKING
HER INITIAL PILOT. SHE BRINGS
EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN
e-COMMERCE AND STRATEGY. SHE
MANAGED A 190 MILLION PORTFOLIO
AMAZON , HELPING THOUSANDS OF
SMALL AND MEDIUM-SIZED
BUSINESSES GROW THROUGH BRAND
DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORT. HER
BACKGROUND IN CONSULTING AND
FINANCIAL ANALYSIS HAS
STRENGTHENED HER SKILLS AND
STRATEGY, COLLABORATION AND
PROBLEM SOLVING WITH GENUINE
INTEREST AND SUSTAINABILITY
ENGAGEMENT. GINA IS CONTRIBUTING
HER EXPERTISE AND PERSPECTIVE AS
THE AT LARGE CUSTOMER
REPRESENTATIVE POSITION EIGHT ON
THE SEATTLE CITY LIGHT REVIEW.
GINA CRISTINA SIMA, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING?
>> YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
THE CONSIDERATION. I RELOOK
FORWARD TO CONTRIBUTING THE
STRATEGIC PLANNING OPERATIONAL
RECORD AHEAD FOR THE CITY
SEATTLE REVIEW PANEL. THANK YOU.
>> THESE ARE STRONG CANDIDATES
THAT I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE
WORKING WITH AND PRESENT FOR
APPOINTMENT. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE
PRESENTATION TODAY. COLLEAGUES,
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS?
>> THANK YOU. GINA, MAYBE YOU DO
ACTUALLY WORK IN AN AREA THAT IS
ANALYZING HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY
WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO RUN ALL
OF THE WEB BASED SERVICES FOR
ALL OF THE PRODUCTS. I KNOW THAT
I'M SEEING HERE THE e-COMMERCE
, ET CETERA . BUT YOU ARE IN THE
MIX THERE. WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE
THINKING ABOUT AS WE TRANSITION?
AND THIS LEADS INTO THE NEXT
PRESENTATION. WHAT DO WE NEED TO
BE THINKING ABOUT AS WE
TRANSITION INTO A MORE ELECTRIC
ENERGY DEPENDENT SOCIETY ? WHAT
DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FROM THE
INSIDE TO YOU? YOU CAN MOVE THAT
MICROPHONE IS CLOSE TO YOU AS
YOU WANT.
>> I WILL TRY MY BEST. THAT'S A
BIG QUESTION. AS IT PERTAINS TO
THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING THERE
I THINK DON WILL SPEAK TO THIS
AS WELL. WE ARE REALLY LOOKING
AT MODERNIZING OUR ELECTRICAL
GRID. THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE
PRIORITY . AS I ALLUDED TO
EARLIER , ADDING AS MUCH
OPERATIONAL RECORD TO THE
WONDERFUL WORK THAT SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT IS ALREADY DOING IN ORDER
TO AMPLIFY THE RESULTS OF THAT
WORK OVERTIME. OF COURSE,
THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS
TO BE CONSIDERED AND I AM
BECOMING A SQUEAKY WHEEL ON THE
REVIEW PANEL TO BE ASKING THOSE
QUESTIONS WITH THINKING AHEAD .
WE HAVE DATA CENTERS THAT WE
WILL MAYBE BE ADDING TO THE
ELECTRICAL GRID. WHAT DOES THAT
LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? IS
ARE ALL QUESTIONS THAT WE ARE
THINKING THROUGH AND I'M SURE
YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT IT
THROUGH THE WORK TO COME AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU. AND PLEASE DO BE
THAT SQUEAKY WHEEL BECAUSE IS A
LOT OF THINGS THAT CITY LIGHT IS
DOING REALLY WELL AND THERE'S
MANY THINGS THAT THE AGENCY
NEEDS TO IMPROVE UPON. I THINK
EVERYONE IS SHAKING THEIR HEADS.
WE ALL KNOW THIS. RIGHT? MUCH
LIKE IN 2017 OR 2018, THE S.
MOVE SEATTLE LEVY HAD BLOWN THE
WHISTLE AND WE ARE MORE IN LINE
TO MEET OUR OBJECTIVES OF THAT
LEVY. IF THAT OVERSIGHT PANEL
HAD NOT DONE THAT WE WOULD NOT
BE ABLE TO RECALIBRATE AND MEET
OUR OBJECTIVES OF THAT LEVY. IN
THE SAME WAY, ASK YOU TO BE A
SQUEAKY WHEEL AND DO GOOD WORK
ON BEHALF OF ALL CITY LIGHT
CUSTOMERS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COLLEAGUES, ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPOINTEE
TODAY? ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS FOR TODAY.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS IS ALIGNED
WITH ME ON THIS AND I ALSO WANT
TO VOICE MY APPRECIATION FOR THE
SQUEAKY WHEELS OF THE WORLD.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE
ISSUES THAT MATTER AND AFFECT
THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
SERVE. I HAVE BEEN SO IMPRESSED
WITH THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE THAT
IS A PART OF THE CITY LIGHT
REVIEW PANEL. I'M SO EXCITED TO
REAPPOINT AS WELL THE OTHER
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PART OF
THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO SERVE ON THIS
BODY. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH YOU. COLLEAGUES, IF THERE
ARE NO FINAL QUESTIONS I WILL
MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMEND THE CONFIRMATION OF
THE APPOINTMENTS. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND CONFIRMATION OF THE
APPOINTMENT. ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
WILL THE COMMITTEE CLICK PLEASE
CALL THE ROLE ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION TO CONFIRM THE
APPOINTMENTS?
>> [ ROLL CALL ]
>> FOUR IN FAVOR, ZERO POST.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE
COMMITTEE MET FOUNDATION THAT
THE OPPONENTS BE CONFIRMED WILL
BE SENT TO THE DECEMBER 16th
FULL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THANK
YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE THIS
MORNING. WILL THE COMMITTEE
CLICK PLEASE READ ITEM 19 INTO
THE RECORD?
>> ITEM 19. PRESENTATION OF
INFRASTRUCTURE AND RELIABILITY
FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> BEAUTIFUL. AS OUR COLLEAGUES
WITH CITY LIGHT MAKE THEIR WAY
UP TO THE COMMITTEE TABLE ,
COLLEAGUES, I WILL REMIND YOU
THIS IS THE BIG, EXCITING
PRESENTATION I MENTIONED DURING
BRIEFING EARLIER THIS WEEK. WE
ALL, I BELIEVE, HAVE GUN
REQUESTS AND QUESTIONS WHEN IT
COMES TO OUTAGES THAT DO HAPPEN
IN OUR CITY. THIS IS A REAL
OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR DIRECTLY
FROM CITY LIGHT ABOUT HOW THE
UNDERSTAND OUR CURRENT
INFRASTRUCTURE AND SYSTEMS AT
HAND. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING
HERE TODAY FOR THIS PRESENTATION
. PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO
INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE
RECORD.
>> HI. AGAIN, BRIDGET MALINA.
COUNSEL LEGISLATION COORDINATOR
FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHT.
>> IN MORNING. HINA ARAI, SENIOR
POLICY AND STRATEGY MANAGER.
>> IN MORNING, COUNSEL. ANDY
STRONG. I AM THE ENGINEERING ,
ENVIRONMENTAL AND -- OFFICER FOR
CITY LIGHT PICK
>> AND GOOD MORNING. I AM DON
LINDELL, THE GENERAL MANAGER AND
CEO FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHT. OUR
SECOND AND FINAL ITEM THIS
MORNING IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENTS AND LONG-TERM
RELIABILITY BRIEFING. FOR THIS
ITEM YOU WILL HEAR FROM HINA
ARAI, SENIOR POLICY AND STRATEGY
MANAGER, AND AGAIN FROM ANDREW
STRONG . THIS PRESENTATION
OUTLINES THE CONDITION OF THE
CITY LIGHT OWNED ELECTRIC GRID
CURRENT RELIABILITY TRENDS AND
THE LONG-TERM INVESTMENTS
REQUIRED TO IMPROVE OUR
RELIABILITY AND SUPPORT
SEATTLE'S GROWTH , AND INCREASE
ELECTRIFICATION. IT HIGHLIGHTS
BOTH THE CHALLENGES AHEAD AND
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A MORE
RESILIENT FUTURE READY GRID.
WITH THAT, I WILL INVITE HINA
ARAI TO BEGIN THE PRESENTATION.
>> ACTUALLY COME I WILL GO AHEAD
AND START , DAWN. AGAIN, THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
UPDATE YOU ON CITY LIGHTS OUR
STRATEGIC MAINTENANCE FOR
LONG-TERM RELIABILITY GOES OVER
THE NEXT 10 YEARS . OVER THE
NEXT DECADE WE WILL FACE A
SIGNIFICANT JOURNEY AS WE NEED
TO ADDRESS HISTORICALLY
UNDERFUNDED AND DEFERRED
MAINTENANCE. ELEVATE OUR
RELIABILITY STANDARDS , AND MEET
THE ACCELERATING DEMAND FOR
ELECTRIFICATION IN BOTH
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
SECTOR TEARS AS HAS BEEN
DISCUSSED BEFORE. IF YOU ASK
WHETHER THESE REVOLVING --
CURRENT PROJECTIONS, THE ANSWER
IS YES. WE ARE ACTIVELY
EVALUATING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE
. WITH THAT CONTEXT, WE WOULD
LIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF
OUR RELIABILITY NUMBERS, KEY
PROJECTS , AND THE RESOURCES
REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THEM. SLIDE
TWO PLEASE. JUST TO GROUND
ASSAULT , CONVENTIONAL POWER
SYSTEM ENCOMPASSES THE FOLLOWING
PHASES. ITS POWER GENERATED FROM
HYDROELECTRIC RESOURCE , SOLAR
OR WIND . HYDRO IS OBVIOUSLY
SOMETHING THAT WE OWN AND
MAINTAIN AT HYDRATION, AT A HIGH
RATE. WE HAVE WIND AND SOLAR
ASSETS THROUGH PPA, OR POWER
PURCHASE AGREEMENTS. SUBSTATION
TRANSFORMERS STEPS OF VOLTAGE
FOR TRANSMISSION. TRANSMISSION
LINES CARRY ELECTRICITY OVER
LONG DISTANCES . NEIGHBORHOOD
SUBSTATION, TRANSFORMER STEP
DOWN VOLTAGE TO A DISTRIBUTION
VOLTAGE. AND THEN TRANSFORMERS
-- STEPPED ELECTRICITY BEFORE
ENTERING RESIDENTIAL OR
COMMERCIAL SECTORS. AND AGAIN,
SERVICE LINE FOR RESIDENT. THESE
ARE SYSTEMS THAT SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT OWNS AND MAINTAINS. AS WE
GET INTO SOME OF THE INFORMATION
WE WILL BREAK IT DOWN INTO THOSE
SECTORS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO
REALIZE THAT AS OUR EXISTING --
HAS REACHED CAPACITY WE MAY BE
LOOKING AT NUCLEAR AND
GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES. SLIDE
THREE PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU, BRIDGET. GOOD
MORNING AGAIN. THE TABLE ON THE
SCREEN, EXPLAIN THE X AND Y
AXIS. UNDERGROUND ASSETS
IDENTIFIED BY UG, AND OVER SAID
ASSETS IDENTIFIED BY OH. THE
ACCESS LISTS THE NUMBER OF TIMES
THEY ARE IDENTIFIED AS THE CAUSE
OF THE OUTAGES. THIS CHART
DISPLAYS THE UNPLANNED OUTAGES
CAUSED SPECIFICALLY BY EQUIPPING
FAILURE OVER MARCH , 2024, TO
FEBRUARY, 25 TIME PERIOD. PLEASE
KEEP IN MIND THE OUTAGES FROM
EXTERNAL FACTORS, SUCH AS
STORMS, FALLEN TREES OR VEHICLES
/PULL COLLISIONS ARE EXCLUDED.
AS YOU CAN SEE, BY A LARGE
MARGIN, THE TOP THREE OUTAGE
DRIVERS ARE TIED TO OUR
UNDERGROUND SYSTEM. FOR EXAMPLE,
YOU WILL SEE THE TOP CONTRIBUTOR
IS PRIMARY CABLE. THE
UNDERGROUND PRIMARY CABLE, THE
UNDERGROUND TRANSFORMER AND THE
UNDERGROUND ARRESTOR. WITHIN
THESE -- CABLE IS THE MOST
PROBLEMATIC. WE WILL COVER THE
SPECIFIC ASSET IN MORE DETAIL
LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. THE
TAKE AWAY WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO
HAVE FROM THE SLIDE IS THAT OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE IS AGING AND HAS
BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER
INVESTED IN SINCE THE 2001
ENERGY CRISIS WHEN CITY LIGHT
WAS FORCED TO REDUCE MAINTENANCE
CREW AND BUDGETS. THAT
INVESTMENT GAP CONTINUES TO
PERSIST , AND AS SUCH, MEETING
OUR RELIABILITY GOALS WILL
REQUIRE RENEWED AND SUSTAINED
INVESTMENT , BOTH IN
INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESOURCES.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE SECOND
CHART CAPTURES OUR RELIABILITY
METRICS OVER THE LAST FOUR
YEARS. SO IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED
TO THE SLIDE JUST SHARED, WHICH
IS WHAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO HOW
WE RELIABLY SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS.
THE X ACCESS LISTS THE YEARS AND
THE Y AXIS, BOTH ON THE RIGHT
AND LEFT, LIST THE NUMBER OF
MINUTES. I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST
START BY EXPLAINING THE PURPLE
LINE, ALTHOUGH AT THE BOTTOM,
AND MAKE MY WAY UP. THE PURPLE
LINE REPRESENTS THE FREQUENCY OF
OUR OUTAGES AND THE PURPLE
TRIANGLE IDENTIFIES OUR TARGET.
SIMILARLY, THE ORANGE LINE
REPRESENTS THE AVERAGE DURATION
OF OUR OUTAGES AND THE ORANGE
TRIAL REPRESENTS WHERE WE WANT
TO BE . FINALLY, THE BLUE LINE
REPRESENTS THE DURATION OF TIME
FOR A CUSTOMER WHO IS
EXPERIENCING AN OUTAGE. AND
AGAIN, THE BLUE TRIANGLE IS WHAT
OUR TARGET IS. AS YOU CAN SEE,
THERE IS A CLEAR AND GROWING GAP
BETWEEN WHERE SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
IS TODAY AND WHERE WE NEED TO
BE. THAT GAP IS GETTING WIDER
FASTER BECAUSE OF THE AGING
ASSETS I DISCUSSED IN THE LAST
SLIDE. RELIABILITY IS ONE OF THE
MOST DIRECT WAYS CUSTOMERS
EXPERIENCE THEIR UTILITY. YOU
BOTH STARTED BY SHARING HOW
YOU'VE HEARD FROM YOUR
CONSTITUENTS FREQUENTLY ON THESE
OUTAGES. WHEN RELIABILITY SLIPS
IT AFFECTS DAILY LIFE, ECONOMIC
ACTIVITY AND PUBLIC TRUST. AND
IF WE DAWN'T ACT SOON OUTAGES
WILL ONLY BECOME MORE FREQUENT
AND MORE COSTLY. WE HAVE A
CLEAR, LONG-TERM GOAL TO BE IN
THE TOP 25% OF NORTHWEST
UTILITIES WITHIN THE NEXT 10
YEARS. AND WE HAVE A PLAN TO GET
THERE. FOCUSED , STRATEGIC
INVESTMENTS THAT WILL REVERSE
THIS TREND AND STRENGTHEN SYSTEM
PERFORMANCE , WHICH WE WILL
SHARE NOW.
>> NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. EACH OF
OUR ASSET SYSTEMS GET AN OVERALL
GRADE. THE CONDITION RATING
SCALE USED FOR OUR SYSTEMS FROM
ONE TO FIVE. ONE MEANS THAT OUR
ASSETS ARE ESSENTIALLY NEW OR
LESS THAN 20% OF THEIR LIFECYCLE
. FIVE IS A CRITICAL OR NEAR
FAILURE SCORE REQUIRING
REPLACEMENT FOR MEDIATION WITHIN
THE NEXT TWO YEARS. PUT SIMPLY,
THE SMALLER THE NUMBER THE
BETTER FOR OVERALL HEALTH. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT
ALTHOUGH AN AVERAGE NUMBER MAY
SEEM TO GIVE SOME CONFIDENCE, IT
DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE AREN'T
IMMEDIATE NEEDS TO REPAIR
INFRASTRUCTURE . AND I WILL
HIGHLIGHT US. OUR GENERATION
ASSET SCORES 2.8. THE GOOD NEWS,
WE HAVE INVESTED AND REBUILT
MOST OF OUR HYDRO UNITS. THESE
ARE IN GOOD HEALTH , AS ARE OUR
MAJOR SYSTEMS LIKE LARGE
TRANSFORMERS AND SUBSTATIONS ON
OUR SITE . THAT SAID, WE STILL
MUST INVEST IN MEDIUM TO LOW
VOLTAGE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS AND
PLACING CONTROL OPPONENTS AT OUR
HYDROELECTRIC SITES. THIS BUDGET
IS LARGELY ACCOUNTED FOR
ALREADY. LARGE UPCOMING PROJECTS
NOT FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR INCLUDE
OUR LICENSING AGREEMENT ,
INCLUDING ANY TRIBAL OFF LIGHTS
AGREEMENT. THIS COULD INCLUDE A
COMMITMENT OF UP TO $4 BILLION
OVER A NEW LICENSE, WHICH WE
HOPE WILL BE 50 YEARS. WORK
WOULD INCLUDE PASSAGE PROJECTS,
TRIBAL FACILITIES, A SMALL HYDRO
PROJECT AND OTHERS. OUTSIDE OF
THE RELICENSING COMPONENT ,
THERE ARE TWO LARGE CIVIL
PROJECTS CURRENTLY NOT FUNDED .
OUR BOUNDARY FACILITY WE MUST
DEMOLISH AND REBUILD A LARGE BAY
BRIDGE AND ASSOCIATED INTAKE
STRUCTURE . AT THE GORGE DAM
THERE IS A SEISMICALLY DEFICIENT
SUPERSTRUCTURE THAT REQUIRES
MODIFICATION. THESE ARE BOTH
RATED AS FOUR, WHICH MEANS THEY
SHOULD BE DONE WITHIN THE NEXT
SEVEN YEARS. AS A PRICE OF
POWER, ESPECIALLY GREEN POWER ,
CONTINUE TO INCREASE AROUND PEAK
DEMAND TIMES . UTILITY MIGHT
FIND IT ADVANTAGEOUS TO INVEST
IN A PUMP STORAGE PROJECT AT
IDRISS A. FOR THE PURPOSES OF
THIS PRESENTATION, THIS WORK IS
NOT COUNTED IN OUR OVERALL
DOLLAR FIGURE FOR BUDGET FIGURE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OUR
TRANSMISSION TOWERS, DESPITE
THEIR AGE, ARE LARGELY IN GOOD
SHAPE. AND OUR CABLES ARE
ADEQUATE. WE NEED TO INVEST IN
THE FUTURE IS OUR SMALL
COMPONENTS. AND HERE IS AN
EXAMPLE. THIS IS A CABLE IN YOUR
. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE
ATTACHMENT BOWL IS ROUGHLY 80%
WORN THROUGH. THIS IS INDICATIVE
OF A LOT OF OUR SYSTEM. IT
INVOLVES MORE DETAILED WORK
THROUGHOUT OUR 6060 MILES OF
TRANSMISSION. THE REASON WHY
THIS IS RELEVANT IS THAT CITY
LIGHT HAS A WILDFIRE RISK
REDUCTION STRATEGY BORN OUT OF
NECESSITY . AS A RESPONSE TO
CALIFORNIA FIRES CAUSED BY
TRANSMISSION LINE FAILURES ,
FROM 2019 THROUGH 2023 THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION APPROVES THE THREE
LARGEST UTILITIES IN CALIFORNIA,
COLLECTING 27 BILLION IN
WILDFIRE PREVENTION AND
INSURANCE COST. THE COST IS
PROJECTED TO KEEP RISING.
DEPENDING UPON THE UTILITY,
THESE COSTS MAKE UP ANYWHERE
FROM 10 TO 24% OF TOTAL REVENUE
REQUIREMENTS. PG AND E ILONA HAS
HAD TO PAY A SETTLEMENT OF $13.5
BILLION TO VICTIMS OF 2017 AND
2018 WILDFIRES THAT WERE CAUSED
BY TRANSMISSION FAILURES. THIS
UTILITY CANNOT FIND ITSELF IN
THE SAME SITUATION. ALSO, OF
NOTE, WITH INCREASE OF ELECTRIC
DRIVEN BY THE MARKET AT THE PORT
OF SEATTLE POTENTIAL FOR
MULTIPLE NEW DATA CENTERS,
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
EXPANSION, UTILITIES WILL HAVE
TO INVEST IN INCREASED CAPACITY
AND NEW TRANSMISSION
INFRASTRUCTURE. NEXT SLIDE
PLEASE. THE SUBSTATION ASSET
SCORE IS 3.24 AND ALONE
REPRESENTS THE SCORE IN OUR
SYSTEM. THE GOOD NEWS, MAJOR
TRANSFORMERS AND MAJOR CONTROL
SYSTEMS OF THE HEART OF ANY
SUBSTATION THAT ARE MOSTLY IN
GOOD CONDITION. HOWEVER,
MANAGEMENT IS FORECASTING A
SHARP INCREASE IN NECESSARY --
REPLACEMENT FUNDING OVER THE
NEXT 10 YEARS. THIS IS A
FUNCTION OF MANY OF SEATTLE CITY
LIGHT SUBSTATION ABOUT THE SAME
AGE. THEIR COMMON LONG-LIVED
ASSETS ARE REPLACEMENT AT THE
SAME TIME. THESE ARE SMALL
COMPONENTS, LIKE CIRCUIT
BREAKERS, WHICH IS --
CAPACITORS. AND THINGS OF THAT
NATURE THAT HAVE A HUGE IMPACT
WHEN IT COMES TO RELIABILITY. WE
MUST ACCELERATE THIS WORK BY
THREE TIMES WHAT WE ARE
PRESENTLY DOING . IT'S ALSO
IMPORTANT TO THAT WITH THE NEED
FOR ADDITIONAL CAPACITY WE WILL
HAVE TO BUILD NEW SUBSTATION
INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PORT OF
SEATTLE ALONE, WITH ITS DRIVE
TOWARD ELECTRIFICATION, WILL
CREATE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 300 AND
400 MEGAWATTS OF NEW, ADDITIONAL
LOAD ALONG SEATTLE'S
WATERFRONT. OUR SYSTEMS ARE
CURRENTLY APPROACHING CAPACITY .
WE ARE CURRENTLY PLANNING FOR
WHAT A NEW SUBSTATION WILL LOOK
LIKE AND WHERE WILL BE LOCATED.
A SUBSTATION OF THIS CAPACITY IS
ANYWHERE FROM $400-$700 MILLION
DEPENDING ON NUMBER OF FACTORS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE TOO
THAT DEPENDING UPON THE SPEED OF
TRANSITION OF LARGE VEHICLES TO
ELECTRIFICATION THERE IS A
CHANCE THAT A SECOND SUBSTATION
WILL NEED TO BE BUILT ON THE
SOUTH SIDE OF OUR SERVICE
TERRITORY IN ORDER TO HANDLE THE
ADDITIONAL VOTE. IT'S IMPORTANT
TO NOTE THAT I AM NOT COUNTING
THIS COST IN THE TENURE
PROJECTIONS AT THIS POINT. IN
THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE ANTICIPATE
HAVING TO INSTALL LARGE BATTERY
SYSTEMS AS WE SEE INCREASED
VOLATILITY IN OUR TRANSMISSION
SYSTEMS AND SERVE OUR TERRITORY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
DISTRIBUTIONAL ASSET CONDITIONS
AND SCORES. SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
HAS TWO TYPES OF DISTRIBUTION.
WE HAVE A RADIO SYSTEM THAT
SERVES MOST OF OUR SERVICE
TERRITORY AND A NETWORK SYSTEM
THAT SERVES OUR DOWNTOWN AND
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AREAS.
OUR NETWORK SCORES 2.3. OUR
NETWORK REPRESENTS A VERY WELL
ADHERED TO MEET AND SYSTEM THAT
HAS PROVEN OVER THE YEARS TO BE
RESILIENT AND RELIABLE. OUR
RADIO SYSTEM ESCORTED 3.1 , BY A
SIGNIFICANT MARGIN, AS IS
ALREADY POINTED OUT, THE TOP
THREE FAILURES IN OUR RADIO
SYSTEMS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH OUR
UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS, WHICH
SERVED THE MAJORITY OF OUR
SERVICE TERRITORY. OF THOSE, IT
IS OUR DIRECT BURIED CABLE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS MOST
TROUBLESOME AND IS IN FACT
LARGELY DRIVING OUR INCREASE ON
RELIABILITY. A DIRECT BURIED
CABLE DOES REQUIRE EXPENSIVE
INFRASTRUCTURE. THE DUCT BANK IS
A SERIES OF CONDUIT BURIED WITH
THE CONCRETE THAT NEW OR
REPLACEMENT CABLE CAN EASILY BE
SLID IN AND OUT OF. THE DIRECT
BURIED CABLE INSTALLATIONS
METHOD USED BY CITY LIGHT IN THE
LATE 70s AND 80s WAS A
LOWER-COST OPTION USED BY CITY
LIGHT AND SEVERAL OTHER
UTILITIES AROUND THE SAME
DURATION. NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
DIDN'T WANT UNSIGHTLY OVERHEAD
LINES FORMED LOCAL IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICTS TO FUND THE
INSTALLATION OF THIS WORK.
DIRECT BURIED CABLE IS EVENLY
DISTRIBUTED OVER MOST OF OUR
RESIDENTIAL TERRITORY AND IS
ESPECIALLY PRESENT A LONG VIEW
PROPERTIES. THERE ARE
APPROXIMATELY 330 MILES OF
DIRECT BURIED CABLE THAT WE WILL
HAVE TO REPLACE. AND BECAUSE OF
ITS RAPIDLY DETERIORATING
INFRASTRUCTURE AT THIS POINT
THIS MUST BE DONE OVER THE NEXT
10 YEARS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS COULD
REPRESENT A REPLACEMENT PROGRAM
REQUIRING AS MUCH AS $2 BILLION
ALONE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
SLIDE NINE PLEASE. WHAT WE ARE
HAVING TO REBUILD NEW OR REPLACE
EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ALSO
HAVE TO SUPPORT MAJOR PROGRAMS
WITH PARTNERS OUTSIDE OF OUR
SYSTEMS. THESE INCLUDE PROGRAMS
LIKE -- OR FORMERLY SEATTLE
STEAM. THEY ARE LOOKING AT A
POTENTIAL FOR 125 ADDITIONAL
MEGAWATTS FOR THEIR
ELECTRIFICATION -- SOUND TRANSIT
THREE AND WSDOT ON THEIR 520
SYSTEMS REPRESENT PROJECTS THAT
WILL REQUIRE CITY LIGHT TO
REPLACE MAJOR PORTIONS OF OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE, AND ALSO HAD --
ADD CAPACITY. IT REPRESENTS
ABOUT 75 MEGAWATTS WORTH OF
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. THE
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON IS
LOOKING AT A CAMPUS EXPANSION
AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THEIR
CENTRAL PLANT AWAY FROM NATURAL
GAS AND TOWARD ELECTRIFICATION.
THERE IS AN INTEREST FROM AT
LEAST FIVE DEVELOPERS TO LOCATE
NEW DATA CENTERS WITHIN CITY
LIGHT SERVICE TERRITORY. IT'S
UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT WHAT THIS
REPRESENTS FOR TOTAL CAPACITY,
BUT IT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT. AS
MENTIONED BEFORE, PORT OF
SEATTLE HAS AN INTEREST IN AS
MUCH AS 400 MEGAWATTS OF
ELECTRIFICATION ALONG THE
WATERFRONT. BUILDING
ELECTRIFICATION PROGRAM
REPRESENTS THE CITY LIGHTS
ABILITY TO PARTNER WITH
QUALIFYING INFRASTRUCTURE OWNERS
AND DEVELOPERS TO CREATE THE
NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
CARBON COMPLIANCE. AND THEN,
FINALLY, CERTAINLY NOT LAST AND
CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, EV
CHARGERS. CITY LIGHT MUST EITHER
DIRECTLY INSTALL OVER 11,000
CHARGERS OVER THE NEXT FIVE
YEARS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO
UNDERSTAND THAT AFFECTING CITY
LIGHTS ABILITY TO SUPPORT THESE
PROGRAMS CAN ACCURATELY PREDICT
CAPITAL COSTS OR SEVERAL GLOBAL
FACTORS CAUSED BY UNCERTAIN
TARIFF, WORLDWIDE SHORTAGES ,
REGIONAL CONFLICTS AND OTHERS.
HOW THIS AFFECTS US HIS
BIOMATERIAL TIMELINE. LARGE
TRANSFORMERS AND SWITCH GEARS
THAT, JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, IS
TO TAKE ANYWHERE FROM A YEAR AND
A HALF TO TWO YEARS TO GET. NOW
TAKE THREE TO SIX YEARS. COST
ESCALATIONS DUE TO MATERIAL
UNCERTAINTY -- ELECT VACATION
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, REGIONAL
CONFLICTS AND UNCERTAIN TARIFFS
AGAIN HAVE DRIVEN UP MATERIAL
COSTS FAR GREATER THAN REGULAR
INFLATION. AND THEN HUMAN
RESOURCES. TO MEET THESE TASKS
FOR THE FUTURE CITY LIGHT DOES
NOT HAVE THE NUMBER OF
ENGINEERS, PROJECT MANAGERS ,
FIELD CREWS, CONTRACT
SPECIALISTS OR OTHERS THAT WILL
BE NECESSARY TO MEET THE
CHALLENGES . SO NOT COUNTING THE
NEEDS TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL
ENERGY RESOURCES OR THE
TRANSMISSION NECESSARY TO
TRANSPORT THAT . IF NOT COUNTING
THE ROUGHLY $4 BILLION THAT WE
QUOTED EARLIER FOR THE 50 YEAR
LICENSE, OR THE POSSIBILITY OF
-- CITY LIGHT IS LOOKING AT
ROUGHLY $3.4 BILLION OF
ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT OVER THE
NEXT 10 YEARS TO SAFEGUARD OUR
FACILITIES AND TO IMPROVE OUR
SERVICE RELIABILITY AND MEET OUR
GOALS TO BENEFIT OUR CUSTOMER
AUDIENCE. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
TIME?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE
PRESENTATION. CALLINGS,
QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS?
>> CHAIR, IF OTHER FOLKS HAVE
QUESTIONS I COULD TAKE TWO HOURS
ON THIS. LET'S RUN BACK THROUGH
THE SLIDES. IF WE WANT TO GO
BACK TO LIFESPAN. AND I DAWN'T
HAVE MY COPY . BACK TO ONE OF
THOSE FIRST TWO SLIDES. LET ME
PULL UP MY COPY OF THIS
PRESENTATION. THERE IT IS.
LET'S GO TO SLIDE TWO, IF YOU
WOULD. SLIDE TWO. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. YOU RAN THROUGH A LOT OF
REALLY DENSE INFORMATION
QUICKLY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO
OTHER WAY AROUND THAT. BREAKING
THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE
HERE, IN THE CONVENTIONAL POWER
SYSTEM, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT
OUR OWN SYSTEM YOU SHARED THAT
MUCH OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS
STARTING TO AGE OUT . WHEN WE
ARE LOOKING AT THE TRANSMISSION
TOWERS , WHAT IS A TYPICAL
LIFESPAN OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE?
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH OF
THESE. I'M GOING TO SKIP
GENERATION AND GOING TO
TRANSMISSION DISTRIBUTION.
>> CERTAINLY. THE BULK OF OUR
660 MILES ROUGHLY OF
TRANSMISSION IS IN OUR SKAGIT
INFRASTRUCTURE. THE MAJORITY OF
THOSE TOWERS WERE PUT UP IN THE
30s AND 40s. WE DID AN
ASSESSMENT OF THEIR HEALTH TWO
TO THREE YEARS AGO. AND THE
TOWERS ARE ACTUALLY IN GREAT
SHAPE. THERE'S MINOR REPAIRS TO
DO . BUT THAT BUDGET IS WITHIN
OUR SYSTEM AT THIS POINT. AGAIN,
WHERE WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE IS
MORE ON THE SMALLER SYSTEMS.
GOING THROUGH AND MAKING SURE
THAT WE WILL RISK FAILURE .
SORRY, WE DAWN'T RISK
TRANSMISSION LINES FALLING FROM
THESE TOWERS BECAUSE OF OUR
HANGERS AND INSULATORS. THAT'S
WHAT'S DRIVING OUR FUTURE WORK.
>> SO WITHIN THE TRANSMISSION,
THE TOWERS THAT ARE 100 YEARS
OLD ARE FINE. BUT THE HANGERS
THAT ARE MAYBE 50 YEARS OLD ARE
NOT.
>> REX.
>> SO WHAT IS THE LIFESPAN OF
THE COMPONENTS THEN? I GUESS
I'M LOOKING FOR IS, WHAT IS THE
LIFESPAN THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT
UPON INSTALLATION OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THERE
TODAY?
>> YES, CERTAINLY. HANGERS AND
INSULATORS, TYPICALLY, 50 YEARS.
SO WE ARE AT LIFECYCLE.
>> BECAUSE THEY WERE MOSTLY
RECENTLY UPDATED IN THE 1970s?
>> YES. THERE WAS RESIDUAL WORK
THAT WAS DONE IN THE 70s. YES.
>> JUST ANOTHER POINT CASE THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE 100 YEARS AGO WAS
BUILT BETTER THAN 50 YEARS AGO.
IF WE WANT TO MOVE THEN INTO THE
SUBSTATION'S , I DAWN'T KNOW.
AS OF FOLLOWING THE TRANSMISSION
WE GENERATE IN SKAGIT, WE HAVE
THE TRANSMISSION LINES THAT GET
US DOWN . ONCE WE GET TO BOTTLE
WHAT IS THE LIFESPAN OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE , THE
TRANSFORMERS AND ANY OTHER
PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
YOU HAVE THERE.
>> A LOT OF UTILITIES USE
TRANSFORMERS DIFFERENTLY THAN WE
DO. -- TYPICALLY, IN THE
INDUSTRY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 30
TO 40 YEARS FOR TRANSFORMERS. WE
OVERSIZE OUR TRANSFORMERS FOR
LONGEVITY . WE TYPICALLY GET 60
YEARS FROM OUR LARGE
DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMERS. WE
HAVE 62 OF THEM. THAT MEANS WE
REPLACE 1 TO 2 OF THEM A YEAR.
WE FIND THAT'S AN ADEQUATE
PROGRAM FOR NOW.
>> AND HOW HAVE WE KEPT UP ON
THAT? HAVE WE BEEN KEEPING UP ON
THAT?
>> YES. IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW
, AS OUR NAMEPLATE CAPACITY
INCREASES DRAMATICALLY IN THE
NEXT FEW YEARS , YOU ARE GOING
TO SEE THOSE TRANSFORMERS
UNDERGO MORE SUBSTANTIAL WEAR.
OUR TREND OF EVERY 60 YEARS
MIGHT EVENTUALLY BECOME EVERY 40
YEARS AS WE USE OUR EQUIPMENT
HARDER.
>> ESSENTIALLY, WHAT I'M
HEARING IS THAT WE BUY
TRANSFORMERS THAT ARE LARGER
THAN OUR NEEDS SO WE ARE NOT
OPERATING THEM AT THEIR PEAK
LOAD, WHICH CREATES LESS WEAR
AND TEAR , MEANING WE DAWN'T
HAVE TO REPLACE THEM AS OFTEN.
THAT'S JUST FOR TRANSMISSION,
NOT DISTRIBUTION PICK
>> EXACTLY. CORRECT.
>> SO WE SENT THE POWER DOWN
INTO, WHETHER IT'S THE ONE UPON
105th WERE A FEW OTHER
SUBSTATIONS , IS THAT WHERE IT
BECOMES DISTRIBUTION? WE ARE
MOVING FROM NUMBER THREE. WE
TALKED ABOUT NUMBER FOUR .
NUMBER TWO IS POSSIBLE. MAYBE
THESE ARE A LITTLE MIXED UP. BUT
ONCE WE GET BACK INTO THE CITY,
IS THAT NUMBER FOUR?
>> YES. YES. THAT REPRESENTS
BROAD, DENNY, ANY OF THE OTHER
MAJOR SUBSTATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
>> SO BROAD, DENNY, THE ONE ON
105th, THOUGH SUBSTATIONS ,
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE
HAVE TRANSFORMERS THAT ARE FOR
TRANSMISSION TO GET TO ANOTHER
SUBSTATION. AND THEN WE ALSO
HAVE TRANSFORMERS FROM
DISTRIBUTION. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> CORRECT.
>> IN THE SAME SENSE, WE WERE
JUST TALKING, WE HAVE
TRANSFORMERS FOR TRANSMISSION
THAT'S RATED WAY ABOVE OUR USE,
AND THEREFORE, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE
AS MANY PROBLEMS. BUT ONCE WE
MOVE INTO DISTRIBUTION , WHAT'S
THE SCENARIO? THAT WE ARE MOVING
, WE ARE DOWNGRADING THE
ELECTRICITY FOR TRANSMISSION
LEVEL TO DISTRIBUTION LEVEL .
THEN DO WE HAVE TO TRANSFORM THE
ENERGY ONCE MORE?
>> OUR DISTRIBUTION IN OUR
NETWORK IS 13.8 KILOVOLTS. OUR
RESIDENTIAL IS 26 KV . WHEN IT
HITS OUR OVERHEAD OR SMALLER
UNDERGROUND TRANSFORMERS , LIKE
DISTRIBUTED AS RESIDENTIAL OR
COMMERCIAL VOLTAGE, -- VOLTS ,
THERE ARE OTHER VOLTAGES
DEPENDING ON THE CUSTOMERS. THAT
COVERS THE MAJORITY .
>> LET'S PLAY THAT GAME ONE
MORE TIME. JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS
A LOT OF NUMBERS. WE TRANSMIT
230 KV. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY OUR
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM. OUR
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM IS 230 KV,
OR 115 KV. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT
TRANSMISSION VOLTAGES.
>> I WOULD ASSUME THE INCREASES
OUR COST BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS
NOT CONSISTENT. IS THAT
GENERALLY CORRECT?
>> IDEALLY, WE WOULD WANT TO
TRANSMIT A HIGHER VOLTAGE. TWO
130 KV. IF YOU REMEMBER OUR OLD
HISTORY, WE WERE A RESULT OF
TAKING OVER A NUMBER OF OTHER
UTILITIES OVER TIME. SOME OF
THAT STILL RESIDES IN OUR
SYSTEM.
>> SO THIS PRESENTATION IS ALSO
DESCRIBING , BECAUSE WE ANNEXED
OTHER UTILITIES THAT HAD
DIFFERENT SYSTEMS THAT MAYBE HAD
DIFFERENT THE OPERATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES. WE ARE AT
A POINT THAT WE HAVE TO UPDATE
EVERYTHING TO BECOME CONSISTENT
ACROSS OUR UTILITIES.
>> THAT'S TRUE. YES.
>> I'M A SIMPLE PERSON AT THE
END OF THE DAY. AT THE BEGINNING
OF THE DAY AND RIGHT NOW. SO WE
TRANSMIT FROM SKAGIT AT 2:30, WE
GET TO BOTTLE, WE KEEP IT TO TO
COOK -- 230 BEFORE WE GET
ABROAD. ONCE WE ARE AT BROAD WE
DROP DOWN TO 13.8. OR DO WE DROP
IT TO 26?
>> BROAD COVERS BOTH NETWORK AND
RADIO PICS OF BOTH.
>> SO THE 13.8 IS NETWORK?
>> THE 13.8 IS NETWORK.
>> TO GET INTO THE RADIAL
SYSTEMS, THAT'S 26.
>> CORRECT. TO GET INTO YOUR
HOUSE , THAT'S 480 OR 120.
>> TYPICALLY, 120. YES.
>> SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT
NUMBER FIVE, THAT'S THE 13.8?
>> CORRECT.
>> AND WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT
NUMBER SIX, THAT'S 26?
>> SIX IS THE TRANSFORMER STEP
DOWN OF ELECTRICITY BEFORE
ENTERING RESIDENCE. SO THAT GOES
FROM 26 TO 120 VOLTS.
>> SO NUMBER SEVEN WOULD BE THE
120 VOLTS?
>> NUMBER SEVEN IS JUST A SHORT
LINE BETWEEN THE OVERHEAD
TRANSFORMER AND THE HOUSE.
>> OKAY. REMEMBER, I'M A SIMPLE
PERSON HERE. WHAT I'M GETTING AT
HERE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
NETWORK. WE HEARD ABOUT
TRANSMISSION BEING GENERALLY
OKAY BECAUSE OF THAT PROJECT.
THE NETWORK LEVEL, 13.8 KV ,
WHAT ARE THE TRANSFORMERS THERE?
DID YOU ALSO PURCHASE ABOVE THE
SPECS THAT WE NEEDED TO USE
USING AT A LOWER RATE AND CREATE
MORE LONGEVITY? WHAT'S THE
LIFESPAN FOR THE TRANSFORMERS?
>> WE DO. THOSE ARE SMALLER
UNDERGROUND TRANSFORMERS AND
THEY ARE IN A MORE DIFFICULT
ENVIRONMENT AND OUR LARGE
TRANSFORMERS. TYPICALLY, WE
WOULD ASSUME 30 YEARS. WE HAVE A
HEALTHY REPLACEMENT PROGRAM FOR
THAT FOR OUR NETWORK SYSTEMS.
>> IS THE NETWORK DISTRIBUTION
CONSISTENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE
UTILITY? OR ARE WE ALSO SEEING A
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UTILITIES
THAT WE HAVE ANNEXED?
>> THAT IS CONSISTENT. AGAIN,
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THE
NETWORK SYSTEM IS CONCENTRATED
ON DOWNTOWN SEATTLE AND THE
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON. SO WE
HAVE TWO NETWORK SYSTEMS.
>> AND THOSE ARE CONSISTENT
ACROSS DOWNTOWN ?
>> CORRECT.
>> NOW WE WILL JUMP INTO THE
RADIAL, WHICH I'M GUESSING HAS
SOME OF THE LARGER AMOUNTS OF
PROBLEMS. IS THE RADIAL
DISTRIBUTION CONSISTENT ACROSS
THE ENTIRE UTILITY? WE HAVE
PARTS OF UNINCORPORATED KING
COUNTY. SUCH OUTSIDE OF JUST THE
CITY BOUNDARIES. IS THIS ALL
CONSISTENT?
>> IT IS. IT'S ALL CONSISTENT
AT 26 KV.
>> WITHIN THERE, WHAT IS THE
LIFESPAN OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE
OF THOSE TRANSFORMERS?
>> THE TRANSFORMERS THEMSELVES,
OR HAVE TRANSFORMERS ARE ROUGHLY
30 YEARS . WE ARE STARTING TO BE
MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE IN
CHANGING THOSE OUT AT AN
ACCELERATED RATE. MORE SO
BECAUSE OF THE EXPANDED CAPACITY
THAN THE LIFECYCLE CONDITIONS.
>> AND THEN TO GET FROM THE 26
DOWN TO THE 120, MAYBE THIS IS
WHERE WE ARE HAVING THE SAME
CONVERSATION DIFFICULTIES. I
THOUGHT IT WAS THE OVERHEAD
TRANSFORMER THAT WE ARE SEEING
IDENTIFIED AS NUMBER SIX. IS
THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THERE ARE
SOME UNDERGROUND TRANSFORMERS
THAT ARE ALSO DOING THE
EQUIVALENT OF THE MAJORITY OF
THE OVERHEAD. SO WHERE THERE IS
DIRECT BURIED CABLE SYSTEMS, FOR
EXAMPLE, THOSE ARE UNDERGROUND
TRANSFORMERS DOING THE SAME WORK
AS WHAT NUMBER SIX IS SHOWING.
>> WE WILL GET INTO DIRECT
UNDERGROUND CABLE, BURIED
UNDERGROUND CABLE IN JUST A
MINUTE. I'M GOING TO BRING IT
BACK OUT OF THE THEORETICAL AND
INTO THE REAL. A NUMBER OF YEARS
AGO RESIDENTS REACHED OUT
REGARDING REPEATED POWER
OUTAGES. WE ARE TALKING ONE
ALMOST EVERY MONTH FOR PERIOD OF
TIME. IT WAS WAY ABOVE THE
LEVELS . IT WAS PROBABLY WOULD
MOVE SOME OF THE DATA IN ONE OF
THE SLIDES HERE. REALLY PUSHING
THE ENVELOPE. WHEN WE HAD THOSE
DISCUSSIONS YOU WERE SHARING THE
INFRASTRUCTURE NEARLY THERE. IT
HAD MOST RECENTLY BEEN REPLACED
IN THE 1970s SO THESE ARE THE
UNDERGROUND TRANSFORMERS. IT
ALSO BURIED CABLE IN THE AREA.
>> THAT WAS A DIRECT BURIED
CABLE.
>> THE ISSUE THAT WE FOUND WAS
THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS
FAILING BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY AT
THE END OF ITS LIFESPAN , IT HAD
GONE TO THE PEAK LEVEL OF ITS
USAGE. RATHER THAN RUNNING AT A
LOWER LEVEL TO INCREASE THE
LIFESPAN IT REALLY GET RAMPED
UP. TO GET TO THE POINT IN THE
CONVERSATION , A WHOLE SWATH OF
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE
REPLACED. CITY LIGHT WAS
REPLACING IT ONE BY ONE, PIECE
BY PIECE, TRYING TO FIX THE
PROBLEM WITH THE BEST COST
EFFICIENCY POSSIBLE. THROUGH
THAT, WHAT I NOTICED IS WHEN ONE
THING IS FIXED IT WAS PUSHING
WEAR AND TEAR TO ANOTHER PART OF
THE SYSTEM, BREAKING IT DOWN.
THAT'S WHEN YOU CAME IN AND
REPLACED ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE
DURING ALL UP TO THE SAME GRADE.
WE HAVE A POWER OUTAGE -- USING
THAT EXPERIENCE ON MARKET STREET
AND BALLARD, HOW MANY PARTS OF
OUR CITY ARE IN THAT SAME
POSITION WERE ABOUT TO BE IN
THAT SAME POSITION?
>> A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. WHEN WE
DO TALK. THAT SCENARIO IS A GOOD
SCENARIO. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING
IT BACK TO THE DIRECT BURIED
CABLE BECAUSE THAT REPRESENTS
THE WORST OF OUR SYSTEM. IT IS
330 MILES . THAT'S SUBSTANTIAL.
IT DOES REPRESENT A NUMBER OF
YOUR DISTRICT'S FOR COUNSEL
OVERALL. AGAIN, IT'S PREVALENT
IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I KNOW
SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN SOME
LETTERS FROM CONSTITUENTS THAT
ARE QUITE UPSET, AND RIGHTFULLY
SO, ABOUT UNRELIABILITY IN
CERTAIN AREAS. A LARGE NUMBER OF
OUTAGES. THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE
OF OUR FUTURE IN THE NEXT 10
YEARS IF WE DAWN'T TAKE CARE OF
THE SYSTEM NOW. THIS IS URGENT.
HINA ARAI TALKED EARLIER ABOUT
OUR GOALS. IF WE DAWN'T INVEST
OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS IT WILL
TREND RADICALLY UPWARDS AND WE
CAN'T HAVE THAT.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRESS, I WANT
TO ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE YOUR
QUESTIONING BUT I WANT TO
RECOGNIZE GENERAL MANAGER LINDEL
ONLINE WITH HER HAND RAISED. IF
SHE WANTS TO CHIME IN ON
ANYTHING WE CAN DISCUSS IT HERE
BEFORE YOU CONTINUE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M SORRY
TO NOT BE AT THE TABLE. I WAS ON
VACATION THIS WEEK. I'M JUMPING
IN AT THE MEETING REMOTELY. I
THINK IT MAY BE HELPFUL. WE ARE
LOOKING OUT WHAT IS THE LENGTH
OF LIGHT AT EACH COMPONENT, THAT
IS WHAT COUNTS MEMBER STROSS WAS
FOCUSING IN ON. 40 YEARS FOR
DISTRIBUTION EQUIPMENT IS
STANDARD. WE DID DO SOME
INJECTING IN THAT 15 TO 20 YEAR
RANGE TO TRY TO LENGTHEN THE
LIFE OF THESE ASSETS . NOW WE
ARE AT 60 YEARS PLUS. WE ARE
REPLACING ABOUT FIVE MILES A
YEAR, LITTLE LESS THAN THAT. A
LITTLE LESS THAN FIVE MILES A
YEAR. SO WITH 330 MILES WE WILL
HAVE CABLE THAT IS OVER 100
YEARS OLD , EVEN 150 YEARS OLD
BY THE TIME YOU GET TO IT IF WE
CONTINUE AT THE CURRENT PACE. SO
IT MAY HELP JUST TO FRAME THIS
UP FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. IF WE
LOOK AT SLIDE NUMBER FOUR , ON
THE SLIDE, WE CAN REALLY SEE THE
IMPACT TO CUSTOMERS. SO THE
TARGET IS EITHER AT OUR
COMPARABLE UTILITIES OR EVEN
SLIGHTLY WORSE COMPARABLE
UTILITIES. WE ARE NOT HITTING
OUR TARGETS. WE ARE BRINGING THE
AVERAGE OF PUBLIC UTILITIES DOWN
WITH OUR INCREASINGLY CONCERNING
LIABILITY ISSUES. AND THESE ARE
REALLY IMPACTFUL TO OUR
CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE HAD CUSTOMERS
STUCK IN AN ELEVATOR FOR SIX
HOURS. WE'VE HAD CUSTOMERS OUT
FOR 30 OUT OF 36 HOURS WHERE WE
JUST HAVE THESE REPEATED AND
CASCADING COMPONENT FAILURES
THAT COUNTS MEMBER STROSS WAS
REFERENCING. WHAT WE REALLY DO
NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO REALLY
FOCUS ON NOT BEING THE CAUSE OF
OUR OWN OUTAGES. ABOUT A LITTLE
OVER 40% OF OUR OUTAGES AND
WILDLIFE ARE CAUSED BY US. THEY
WOULD NOT EXPECT TO SEE THAT.
UNDERGROUND IS GENERALLY MORE
RELIABLE THAN OVERHEAD. BUT
UNDERGROUND, WHEN IT IS 60 YEARS
OLD, IS NOT MORE RELIABLE . IT
IS NOT RELIABLE. AND WE'VE GOT
TO GET AFTER THAT . AND THE
ASSOCIATED COMPONENTS THAT ARE
CONNECTED TO IT. I LOVE
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS 'S
QUESTION AROUND HOW MANY OF OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS, MANY OF THEM , IF
YOU THINK OF OUR DOWNTOWN
NETWORK IS KIND OF A BIG CIRCLE
, THAT PART OF OUR GRID GETS AN
A+ . I WILL KNOCK ON WOOD AS I
SAY THIS. BUT IT'S EXTREMELY
RARE FOR US TO HAVE AN OUTAGE
DOWNTOWN. BUT IF WE MOVE OUTSIDE
AND INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE
ARE SEEING LITERALLY THOUSANDS
OF CUSTOMERS OUT WEEKLY. AGAIN,
WITH 40% OF THAT LAYING ON THE
DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. SO WE HAVE
GOT EVERY BIT OF LIFE OUT OF
THESE COMPONENTS. WE HAVE
MAXIMIZED THE INVESTMENT THAT
PEOPLE 40, 50 AND 60 YEARS AGO
MADE IN THIS GRID AND IT'S TIME
FOR US TO DO THE INVESTMENT. SO
THEN WE WILL HAVE A DISTRIBUTION
GRID TO LIVE OFF MOVING FORWARD.
SO I HOPE THAT'S HELPFUL.
>> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. THAT WAS
HELPFUL . JUST TO STAY AND MAKE
IT REALLY REAL, AS CASCADING
COMPONENT FAILURES AND BALLARD
HAD SET UP AN ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL
IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY WERE
GOING TO BE HOSPITALIZED BECAUSE
THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THEIR
OXYGEN MACHINE PLUGGED IN FOR
OVER 24 HOURS. IT WAS ONLY
BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO BRING A
BATTERY TO HER THAT SHE WASN'T
TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL. WHEN WE
THINK ABOUT THAT, WHAT
ADDITIONAL COST TO OUR SOCIETY
IS INCURRED, IT WE HAVE MEDIC
ONE ROLLING OUT. WE HAVE THAT
PERSON TAKING UP POSSIBLE
RESOURCES, ET CETERA. BUT I WILL
COME BACK TO THE DIRECT BURIED
CABLE WITH ONE LAST QUESTION.
THIS IS GOING THROUGH, COMPONENT
BY COMPONENT. FOR THE
TRANSFORMERS AT RADIO
DISTRIBUTION, ARE WE ON PACE
WITH THOSE REPAIRS OR ARE WE
BEHIND?
>> WE ARE COMING UP TO SPEED ON
THAT. I TALKED ABOUT A MORE
AGGRESSIVE REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE
THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. SO YES.
WE ARE GETTING UP TO SPEED ON
THE . WE ARE A MUCH MORE
AGGRESSIVE AND PROACTIVE ABOUT
REPLACING OUR TRANSFORMERS.
>> IS AN AFFAIR TO SAY THERE IS
A BROAD RANGE? YOU AND I TALKED
ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE SOME
TRANSFORMERS THAT HAVE BEEN
REPLACED BUT WE ALSO
TRANSFORMERS THAT ARE NOT ON
PACE, THAT ARE TOO OLD AND NEED
TO BE REPLACED. THAT'S WHY ANDY
IS REFERENCING THAT WE NEED TO
STEP IT UP. I THINK WE TELL THE
WHOLE STORY FROM WORST TO BEST
AT THIS POINT IN FRONT OF YOU.
>> THANK YOU, GENERAL MANAGER.
JUST A NOTE, YOU SAID YOU HAVE
330 MILES OF DIRECT BURIED
CABLES. IS THAT CORRECT? SO IF
YOU WERE TO STRETCH THAT OUT
FROM HERE, SOUTHWARD, YOU WOULD
ARRIVE AT ROSEBURG , OREGON.
WHICH IS JUST GRAND PASS BETWEEN
ROSEBURG AND CALIFORNIA. SO
THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF CABLE THAT
WE HAVE UNDER OUR STREETS,
MAKING SURE THAT OUR NETWORK
WORKS. LINDEL MENTIONED IT WOULD
TAKE 130 YEARS AT OUR CURRENT
PACE TO REPLACE US. THE ONLY
THING WORSE THAN THAT WERE OUR
SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROGRAM
UNTIL LAST TRANSPORTATION LEVY
WITH THE AMOUNT OF SIDEWALK
MONEY GOING THERE. WHAT IS THE
REAL COST THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK
AT TO REPLACE ALL OF THIS DIRECT
BURIED CABLE? AND I WOULD ASSUME
THAT, IF WE ARE DEPLOYING CREWS
TO DO THIS, THERE ARE PLACES
WHERE THERE IS ABOVEGROUND CABLE
THAT WE WANT AS A COST
EFFICIENCY.
>> YOU MENTIONED LAKE FOREST
PARK EARLIER , THAT IS A
COMMUNITY WITH A LARGE NUMBER OF
TREE CANOPY . THAT IS AN EXAMPLE
OF ONE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE
WANT TO GO IN AS PART OF THIS
OVERALL REPLACEMENT WORK AND
UNDERGROUND THOSE OVERHEAD
SYSTEMS. THERE ARE PLENTY OF
OTHER AREAS IN SEATTLE.
>> LET ME JUMP IN HERE. OUR
SEATTLE UTILITY CUSTOMERS PAYING
FOR LAKE FOREST PARKS UPGRADES?
>> NO. THERE IS A SEPARATE
FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AT PARK
SHORELINE AND OTHER FRANCHISES.
>> THANK YOU. SORRY. I CUT YOU
OFF. WHAT IS THE COST THAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT FOR REPLACING
THIS 330 MILES?
>> WHAT WE ARE ESTIMATING FOR A
DIRECT BURIED CABLE IS ABOUND --
AROUND ROUGHLY $2 MILLION A
YEAR. THIS WILL BE DONE THROUGH
A VERY LARGE DESIGN PROGRAM
WHERE WE WILL PARTNER WITH
POTENTIALLY AN INTERNATIONAL
COMPANY THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO
BE ABLE TO DO THIS WORK .
REALISTICALLY, YOU ARE LOOKING
AT 30 TO 33 MILES A YEAR.
THAT'S AN ENORMOUS CIVIL
INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. THERE'S A
VARIOUS MEANS THAT WE CAN USE TO
MINIMIZE NEIGHBORHOOD
DISRUPTION. BUT THERE'S GOING
TO BE PLENTY OF AREAS WHERE WE
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH
OUR CITIZEN OWNERS AND TRY TO
MINIMIZE THE DISTURBANCE TO
THEIR DAILY LIVES. BUT IT IS
GOING TO HAVE IMPACT.
>> IF WE ARE REPLACING ABOUT 30
TO 33 MILES PER YEAR, THAT GETS
US FROM HERE TO REDMOND. WHEN WE
ARE LOOKING AT THAT YOU BRING ME
TO A POINT THAT I WAS GOING TO
BRING UP LATER. IT'S IMPORTANT
FOR US TO BE USING OUR OWN
WORKFORCE HERE IN OUR REGION AND
INCREASING OUR APPRENTICESHIP
OPPORTUNITIES AHEAD OF. AND
MAYBE IT IS ADVANCED PLANNING
WITH A LOCAL COMPANY SO THAT
THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THEIR
APPRENTICES IN , AND ALONG THEIR
LEARNING SCHEDULE , SO THAT WHEN
WORK BECOMES AVAILABLE FOR
REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL IN THIS
AREA, THAT WE'VE GOT LOCALS,
WE'VE GOT LOCAL APPRENTICES THE
WE'VE GOT PRIORITY WORKING FOR
US ON THESE BIG PROJECTS.
THAT'S A STATEMENT, NOT A
QUESTION. I WILL JUST MOVE ON.
>> AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS
WITH LOCAL 77. IN ADDITION TO
THAT, THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY
THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE USING
AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE WORKING
WITH US TO LEARN THAT NEW
TECHNOLOGY AND EVENTUALLY TAKE
THAT OVER.
>> THANK YOU. ONE LAST POINT ON
THIS , YOU MENTIONED THE PROBLEM
THAT WE ARE FACING HERE IN THIS
WAY STARTED IN 2001 AFTER THE
FINANCIAL SCAM IS WHAT I WILL
CALL IT. I DAWN'T KNOW WHAT
OTHER PEOPLE CALL IT. WE HAVE
HEARD THIS COME UP, THIS MOMENT
IN TIME COME UP IN MANY
DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS OVER THE
COURSE OF THESE FEW YEARS ,
WHETHER IT WAS FOR THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY IS GREAT STABILIZATION
FUND . 2001 IN THE ENRON SCAM
HURT US. IN WHAT WAY DID THAT
SET US BACK THEN? AND WHAT
CAUSED US TO NOT CATCH UP
SOONER?
>> THE ENRON CRISIS OR WESTERN
ENERGY CRISIS , IN ORDER FOR
THIS UTILITY TO SURVIVE O AND M
FUNDS WERE CUT AND A CERTAIN
NUMBER OF CREWS WERE CUT AS WELL
TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE THE
SCANDAL . THAT HAS EVER BEEN
MADE UP IN THE DURATION . THAT
IS SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY,
WITHIN THIS 10 YEAR TIMEFRAME,
WILL LOOK TO ADDRESS FOR THE
COUNCIL.
>> I THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO BRING THAT UP
BECAUSE, MUCH LIKE IN THE 2008
RECESSION, THERE ARE STATE-LEVEL
DEPARTMENTS THAT NEVER COME BACK
FROM THOSE CUTS. HERE, IN THE
BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT 2008 AND OUR
UNFORTUNATE DECISION TO LAY OFF
AS DCI PLANNERS AND WE HAD TO
REHIRE THEM QUICKLY AND IT
CREATED A BOW WAKE. WHAT I'M
HEARING TODAY AS WE HAD A
FINANCIAL CRISIS IN 2001, WE
USED SCARCITY SOLUTIONS ,
POSTERITY MEASURES, AND WE HAD
NEVER FULLY RECOVERED 25 YEARS
LATER.
>> RIGHT.
>> THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT . BUT
THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE
TO FACE HERE TOGETHER. I WANT TO
MOVE ON TO SLIDE NUMBER FIVE. I
GEEK OUT WITH THESE FOLKS TOO
OFTEN. JUST INTERRUPT ME AT ANY
TIME.
>> WE WILL CONTINUE,
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANKS. ALL OF THESE THINGS
MAKE GOOD SENSE TO ME . THERE
ARE A FEW THAT ARE LEFT OFF THAT
I THINK ARE HIGHLY IMPORTANT .
MAYBE THEY FALL INTO OTHER. BUT
THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE
WITHIN OUR HYDRO GENERATION
FACILITIES , THE TECHNOLOGY
NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED. THE
TECHNOLOGY OF GENERATING ,
TRANSMITTING AND USING
ELECTRICITY HAS NOT CHANGED. BUT
SOMETIMES THINGS WEAR OUT OVER
100 YEARS. IS THAT BEING PLANNED
FOR IN THESE INVESTMENTS?
>> IT IS. THE REASON I DIDN'T
MENTION IT , THAT'S LARGELY
BUDGETED AND ACCOUNTED FOR AT
THIS POINT . I DID MENTION THE
NEED TO UPGRADE OUR MEDIUM AND
LOW VOLTAGE SYSTEMS TO CONTROL
OUR'S BILL GATES AND OTHER
SAFETY COMPONENTS THAT WE VIEW
AS CRITICAL. AGAIN, MUCH OF THAT
BUDGET IS ALREADY IN PLACE AND
BEING PLANNED FOR NOW.
>> IF I CAN JUMP IN THERE ,
THANK YOU. ANDY AND -- MAY NOT
HAVE QUITE TOUCHED BASE. WE DO
HAVE TECHNOLOGY DEBT AS WELL. IN
FACT, HOW WE MANAGE AND
DISTRIBUTE ENERGY NEEDS TO
CHANGE. THE REST OF THE WORLD ,
ESPECIALLY IN THE U.S., HOW WE
MANAGE THE ENERGY AND DISTRIBUTE
IT , WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL
-- ROOFTOP SOLAR COULD HELP. THE
BATTERY SYSTEM THAT ANDY STRONG
HAS ALLUDED TO, WHICH WE ARE
LOOKING AT FOR IN-HOME AND IN
BUSINESS , BATTERY STORAGE THAT
OUR CUSTOMERS CAN CALL ON. THEY
HAVE AN OUTAGE. BUT THAT WE CAN
CALL ON IF WE HAVE A PEAK LOAD.
WE NEED TO PUT THESE ELECTRONS
INTO PLAY AND THAT MEANS THAT WE
NEED TO HAVE THEM JOIN THE GRID
INTO THE RIGHT FACE. ELECTRICITY
RUNS IN THREE PHASES. THAT'S
WHY THERE'S THREE WIRES . BACK
TO GHOSTBUSTERS, WE CAN SAY WE
NEVER WENT ACROSS THE PHASES.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM
STRONGER, IT'S BECAUSE IT MAKES
THE SIGNAL WEAKER. IT CANCELS
OUT WHEN WE CROSS THE SPACES. WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE TO INCORPORATE
THAT. ELECTRICITY MOVES AT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT SO WE NEED
TECHNOLOGY THAT ALSO MOVES AT
THAT SPEED THAT WILL HELP US TO
INCORPORATE THAT. AND WE HAVE
THE ABILITY TO BE MORE
EFFICIENT, TO DO MORE WITH LESS
WITH THE RIGHT TECHNOLOGY IN
PLACE ALL ALONG OUR SYSTEM. WITH
SENSORS ALONG TRANSMISSION ,
WITH HOW WE UTILIZE THE
TECHNOLOGY IN OUR GENERATION
SITES . SO THERE'S A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE EFFICIENCY
AND WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD A
PRESENTATION ON OUR TECHNOLOGY
NEEDS AS WELL. SO I JUST WANTED
TO, AGAIN, FLAVOR THE
CONVERSATION WITH A LITTLE BIT
OR TOTAL PICTURE THAT ANDY MIGHT
NOT BE AWARE OF. THANK YOU.
>> FANTASTIC. THANK YOU, GENERAL
MANAGER. I WILL SAVE MY
STATEMENTS ABOUT , AND I DAWN'T
KNOW THE TECHNICAL TERM FOR THE
BUILDING WHERE WE ARE WATCHING
ALL OVER THE GRID, THE
TRANSMISSION AND ALL OF THAT.
>> THE SYSTEM OPERATIONS CENTER
PICK
>> THE SYSTEM OPERATION CENTER
FEELS MORE LIKE THEM WITH --
LUNAR MOON LANDING THAN IT DOES
IN ELECTRIC VEHICLE. WE WILL
COME BACK TO THAT. IN THE
GENERATION I WILL HIGHLIGHT FOR
YOU HERE AND NOW THAT IT IS AS
CRITICAL THAT WE KEEP THE
COMPONENTS THAT KEEP THE ENERGY
FLOWING AS IT IS WE KEEP
UP-TO-DATE THE PARTS OF OUR
GENERATION FACILITIES THAT KEEP
OUR EMPLOYEES HOUSE AND HEALTHY.
WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT I RECEIVE UPDATES, THE
HOUSING UPDATES AT BOUNDARY DAM.
I KNOW THAT THE HOUSING IN --
HAD TO BE EVACUATED AFTER THE
SOURDOUGH FIRE AND WE HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DO FULLBORE
REPLACEMENT OF THOSE YOU
PROBABLY HAVEN'T HAD UPDATES
SINCE THE MID-OR EARLY 80s , AS
WELL AS SOME OF THE BREAK ROOMS
IN THIS GENERATION FACILITIES .
NO HARM, NO FOUL. IT SEEMS LIKE
YOU'RE WALKING RIGHT BACK INTO
1978. THERE'S VHA'S -- VHS
TAPE PLAYERS AND ALL OF THAT .
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
EMPLOYEES ARE PART OF OUR CITY
FAMILY THAT ARE IN REMOTE AND
FAR-FLUNG PARTS OF OUR STATE, IT
MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE -- ARE ABLE
TO BE CARED FOR IN THE WAYS THAT
EVERY OTHER CITY EMPLOYER CARED
FOR. I DAWN'T KNOW IF THAT
FALLS INTO OTHER. I WANTED TO
BRING THAT UP WITH YOU TODAY.
NOTHING FURTHER HERE AND WE WANT
TO MOVE ON TO TRANSMISSION
INVESTMENTS PLEASE. RIGHT HERE,
I THINK THE BIGGEST FLAG THAT I
HAVE IS THE WILDFIRE MITIGATION.
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO MEET WITH PSE
AND ON EASTERN WASHINGTON .
>>& ONE.
>> SITTING DOWN AND SPEAKING
WITH THEM ABOUT WILDFIRE
MITIGATION , WE HAVE FAR FEWER
MILES OF TRANSMISSION THAN THEY
DO. THEY HAVE SWABS OF OUR
ENTIRE STATE, WHEREAS WE HAVE A
SINGLE COURT ORDER. THEY ARE
PROVIDING TRANSMISSION , THEY
ARE NOT WEATHER DATA CENTERS
BECAUSE THEY ARE SO REMOTE AND
THAT REDUCES THEIR INSIGHT AND
ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CORRECTLY
SHUT DOWN OR REDUCE LOAD , OR GO
INTO THOSE WILDFIRE MITIGATION
STRATEGIES. GRANTED, THE EASTERN
SIDE OF THE STATE IS DRIER AND
HOTTER , AND MORE PRONE TO
WILDFIRE. WHAT I WILL SHARE WITH
YOU HERE AND NOW IS THAT THOSE
ISSUES ARE COMING HERE. WE SAW
THAT WITH THE LAKE CUSHMAN FIRE
WHERE IT DIDN'T STOP BURNING
UNTIL IT STARTED RAINING. AND
THAT WAS A JULY 4th FIRE. THAT
IS IN WHAT SOME WOULD CALL A
RAIN FOREST. SO IF WE ARE HERE
LOOKING AT WESTERN WASHINGTON,
WE ARE WILDLY FAR BEHIND ON OUR
WILDLAND FIRE MITIGATION. I
BRING THAT UP BECAUSE A COMPANY
LIKE, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT
HE SAID , WHEN A VISTA OR
WHOEVER THEY ARE. THEY'VE
INVESTED MILLIONS, AND MILLIONS,
AND MILLIONS INTO THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROVIDE SOME
BETTER INSIGHT. I THINK THEY
MIGHT EVEN BE SHARING THEIR DATA
WITH TED NOAH AND OTHERS BECAUSE
THEY HAVE SET UP SUCH A ROBUST
SYSTEM. ALL OF THAT TO SAY,
WHERE WE TODAY AND WHERE DO WE
NEED TO GO? WHAT'S OUR CURRENT
SITUATION REPORT ON OUR WILDLAND
FIRE MITIGATION?
>> WE HAVE A PLAN FILED WITH THE
STATE SINCE 24. THE SMALL
COMPONENTS THAT WE ARE WORRIED
ABOUT FROM WILDFIRE MITIGATION.
WE'VE STEPPED UP AND REVISED
OUR VEGETATION MANAGEMENT
PROGRAM TO DEAL WITH THE NUMBER
ONE CAUSE OF TRANSMISSION FIRES.
BUT NOW WE NEED TO GO THROUGH
AND DO THE SMALL STEPS. THE
CRITICAL SMALL INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT IT TAKES TO KEEP THOSE
SYSTEMS OUT OF HARMS WAY.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY PLAN
AT THIS TIME TO SET UP THOSE
DATA CENTERS FOR US TO BE
MONITORING? THE REASON I ASK
THAT TODAY, I DAWN'T THINK
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS
INCREDIBLY NECESSARY RIGHT NOW .
BUT AS WE MOVE INTO HOTTER,
DRIER CLIMATES , YOU KNOW, I
REMEMBER LOOKING AT MT. RAINIER
AS A KID AND THERE WERE GLACIERS
ALL THROUGH THE SUMMER. THERE
STILL ARE, BUT THEY ARE MUCH
HIGHER UP. AS A KID, THE
OLYMPICS STILL HAD SOME
SNOWFIELDS ON ALL THROUGH
SUMMER. TODAY THEY LOOK MORE
LIKE CALIFORNIA. DO WE HAVE A
PLAN SET IN PLACE FOR OUR
ABILITY TO SET UP MONITORING
STATIONS ALONG OUR TRANSMISSION
LINES?
>> WE DAWN'T DIRECTLY HAVE ANY
PHYSICAL VIEWPOINTS IF THAT IS
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. LIKE
CAMERA SYSTEM SET UP ON OUR
TRANSMISSION SYSTEMS. I THINK
IT'S MORE IMPORTANT FOR US,
AGAIN, TO GO THROUGH AND DO THE
SMALL, REMEDIAL WORK. WE ARE
LOOKING AT DRONE CAPACITY TO
SURVEY OUR LINES ON A MORE
REGULAR BASIS. VERSUS THE
HELICOPTERS THAT WE USE TO
UTILIZE. BUT WE HAVEN'T
INITIATED THAT PROGRAM AT THIS
POINT.
>> OKAY.
>> THAT ALSO GOES WITH THE
TECHNOLOGY COMPONENT. WHAT WE
CAN DO IS PUT SENSORS . YOU ARE
EXACTLY RIGHT. THEY ARE NOT
WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT LOCAL
WEATHER. BUT IF WE HAVE SENSORS
ON THE LINE THEY CAN TELL US
AMBIENT TEMPERATURE AND WIND.
AND IF WE KNOW AMBIENT
TEMPERATURE AND WIND, WE CAN
THEN SEND MORE ELECTRICITY
THROUGH THE LINES WHEN IT IS
COOLER AND WINDY SO THAT THE
AMBIENT TEMPERATURE IS LOWER.
AND WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
ELECTRICITY THAT GOES THROUGH
THOSE LINES WHEN THOSE LINES ARE
IN A POSITION WHERE THEY ARE
HOTTER OR WE DAWN'T SEE THAT
WIND. AGAIN, THAT'S A GREAT
QUESTION AROUND THE ADVANCEMENT
OF TECHNOLOGY AND THE POTENTIAL
THAT IS THERE. AND HE MENTIONED
THAT WE HAVE A WILDFIRE PLANT
SINCE 2014. BUT THAT IS A PLAN
THAT WE ALSO UPDATE. I BELIEVE
ANNUALLY, OR EVERY OTHER YEAR. I
THINK I DID EVERY OTHER YEAR. SO
WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE THE CHANGES
THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IN THAT
PLAN WITH THE IMPROVING
TECHNOLOGY AND THE IMPROVING
MITIGATION MEASURES THAT OTHER
UTILITIES ARE FINDING AND
INVESTING. IT'S A PLACE WHERE
THE ENTIRE UTILITY INDUSTRY
READILY SHARES INFORMATION
BECAUSE ALL OF US WANT TO
MITIGATE THAT RISK . NOT JUST
FOR THE DOLLARS, IN FACT, THE
DOLLARS TO ME ARE SECONDARY. BUT
FOR THE COST IN HUMAN LIVES THAT
CAN COME FROM THOSE WILDFIRES.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
DAWN'T CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
>> WELL SAID. THE ONLY OTHER
POINT I WILL MAKE IS, PLEASE
ALSO COLLECT THE HUMIDITY IF YOU
ARE PUTTING IN THE SENSORS. WITH
THE 12 MINUTES LEFT IN THIS
COMMITTEE I CAN TALK FOR TWO
MORE HOURS. I WILL PEPPER YOU
WITH MY QUESTIONS THE NEXT TIME
WE MEET . BACK TO YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS , FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL
QUESTIONS. I CERTAINLY LEARNED A
LOT MYSELF IN THIS. AND THANK
YOU, CITY LIGHT TEAM, FOR YOUR
THOUGHTFUL RESPONSES. THIS IS
CLEARLY A TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT
PROJECT AND AN URGENT ONE. NEXT,
I WILL TURN TO COUNCILMEMBER
LIN.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU
FOR THE DETAILED PRESENTATION.
I DO JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS WAS
SAYING IN TERMS OF THE WORKFORCE
OPPORTUNITIES HERE. IT SOUNDS
LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE 10
YEARS OF WORK THAT WOULD LOVE TO
MAKE SURE THAT THOSE JOBS ARE
GOING TOWARDS LOCAL PRIORITY
HIGHER, TOWARDS OUR YOUTH . FOR
THE FIRST TIME IN EDUCATION THE
-- LEVY FOR APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAMS. WHEN WE KNOW THERE'S
GOING TO BE 10 YEARS OF STEADY
WORK COMING AHEAD WE SHOULD
ABSOLUTELY BE WORKING WITH OUR
LABOR PARTNERS, BUT ALSO WITH
OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL PARTNERS, WITH
OUR DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND
EARLY LEARNING TO MAKE SURE WE
ARE FUNDING THOSE APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAMS. I WOULD LOVE TO
UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE ABOUT
THIS, THE DIRECT BURIED CABLE
PROGRAM, A LITTLE BIT OF THE
HISTORY THERE. IT SOUND LIKE
THERE'S 330 MILES OF DIRECT
BURIED CABLE THAT WE ARE HOPING
TO CONVERT TO CABLE AND CONDUIT.
IS THAT ROUGHLY CORRECT?
>> THAT IS.
>> AND THAT CABLE AND CONDUIT IS
EASIER TO MAINTAIN AND REPAIR
OVER TIME BECAUSE YOU CAN JUST
SORT OF SWAPOUT THE CABLE
EASIER. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YOU ARE RIGHT.
>> DID I HEAR $2 BILLION ROUGHLY
IN TERMS OF COST THAT YOU WERE
SAYING?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY IN THE
BUDGET?
>> CORRECT.
>> IS THAT MOSTLY ON THE
RESIDENTIAL SIDE?
>> IT IS PICK
>> SO THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY
AFFECT RESIDENTIAL RATES.
CORRECT. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO
UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT. IF
THERE IS A MAP WHERE THESE WERE
LOCATED. I THINK YOU TALKED A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF
THIS WHERE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS
WERE PAID FOR UNDER GROUNDING
THROUGH LOCAL IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICTS. I DID HEAR, IN
GENERAL, THAT UNDER GROUNDING IS
MORE RELIABLE. BUT IT SOUNDS
LIKE THIS DIRECT BURIED WAS ,
PERHAPS THIS MY COMMENTARY,
PERHAPS NOT THE BEST CHOICE . SO
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY. I WANT TO
UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S SOME
EQUITY ISSUES IN TERMS OF
CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE
ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS, THAT NOW
WE ARE PAYING FOR AS A SYSTEM.
WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS THESE ARE IN
AND WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS DAWN'T
HAVE THIS. IS THIS BURIED
UNDERGROUND CABLE, IS THIS 26 KV
? IS IT SIMILAR TO A
DISTRIBUTION LINE IN OTHER
NEIGHBORHOODS?
>> THAT IS ALSO CORRECT. YES.
>> COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT SORT OF WHAT
NEIGHBORHOODS? IS THERE A MAP?
ARE THERE EQUITY ISSUES THAT WE
SHOULD BE AWARE OF IN TERMS OF
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE
OVERGROUND LINES?
>> WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO
DISTRIBUTE A MAP THAT ROUGHLY
SHOWS THE DISTRIBUTION OF OUR
DIRECT BURIED CABLE. AND EQUITY
AS PART OF OUR FUTURE PROGRAM.
EQUITY NOT ONLY WANTS EXISTING
FOR OUR DIRECT BURIED CABLE
SYSTEM NOW, BUT FOR FUTURE
TRANSITION OF OVERHEAD TO
UNDERGROUND LINES.
>> OKAY. I WILL MAKE ONE MORE
COMMENT. I HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF
JIM LINDELL TALK ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF DISTRIBUTED ENERGY
WITH SOLAR, WITH BATTERIES . I
THINK I HEARD THE TERM, IN
VERSION. I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON
ALL OF THIS. I CERTAINLY WANT TO
SUPPORT THAT WORK IN TERMS OF
OUR RELIABILITY . SO ANYTHING WE
CAN DO TO FURTHER THAT WORK , TO
FURTHER NEIGHBORHOOD SOLAR TO
BATTERIES , INCLUDING CONSUMER
LEVEL TYPE OF WORK . I WOULD
LOVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT.
FINALLY, ONE MORE THING, IN
TERMS OF THESE LARGE CUSTOMERS .
WHETHER IT'S DATA CENTERS, I
HEARD THE PORT . THOSE SOUND
LIKE THEY MIGHT BE ON THE
COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THE LEDGER.
I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD NOT BE
IMPACTING OUR RESIDENTIAL
CUSTOMERS. IS THAT CORRECT? IN
GENERAL, HOW DOES THAT TYPE OF
-- WHETHER IT'S SUBSTATION WORK
THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT FOR THE
PORT, DO THOSE CUSTOMERS PAY FOR
THAT? IS THAT SORT OF A
DIFFERENT LEDGER THAT PAYS FOR
THAT TYPE OF WORK?
>> YEAH. IT'S COMPLICATED.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
CAN INDIVIDUALLY GO THROUGH WITH
YOU IN THE FUTURE . THEY WERE
SHORT.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO JUMP IN?
>> PLEASE, GENERAL MANAGER.
>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO JUMP IN
ON THAT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A
LARGE LOAD POLICY THAT WOULD BE
COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN
THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE. WE
ARE IN LINE WITH STATE LAW,
ENSURING THE BENEFICIARY PAYS.
YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COST OF
THE SYSTEM UPGRADES AND THE NEW
GENERATION ARE BORNE BY THE NEW
LARGE LOAD. SO THOSE NEW LARGE
LOADS DO NOT IMPACT OUR
RESIDENTIAL RATE. AS WE ARE
WORKING WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS
TO ENGINEER A SOLUTION UNDER
ANDY'S FABULOUS LEADERSHIP , WE
ARE ALSO LOOKING TO COST OUT
WHAT SYSTEM UPGRADES EXPENSE WE
NEED FOR THE ORGANIZATION TO PAY
FOR UP FRONT . AND THEN, FROM A
GENERATION STANDPOINT , THIS
WILL BE A FUTURE PRESENTATIONS
THE ENTIRE COUNSEL AS WELL AS
JUST TO YOU, SIR. EVERY MEGAWATT
WE BUY FROM HERE ON IN IS GOING
TO COST ROUGHLY TWICE OR MORE AS
OUR BEAUTIFUL HYDROPOWER. WE ARE
AT THE POINT WHERE WE MAX OUT
OUR HYDROPOWER AND WE NEED TO
BUY ADDITIONAL GENERATION . FOR
THOSE LOADS THAT ARE CAUSED BY A
LARGE POWER CUSTOMER, WE WILL BE
ASKING THEM TO ALSO HELP SUPPORT
US WITH THE COST OF THAT
GENERATION. IT IS SOMETHING WE
WILL DEFINITELY KEEP OUR EYE ON
FOR OUR CFO, KRISTI GRANGER. SHE
AND HER TEAM ENSURED THAT,
THROUGH OUR COST OF SERVICE
STUDY, WE ARE PUTTING THE RIGHT
TO BURDEN ON THE RIGHT TYPE OF
CUSTOMER. WE HOPE THAT HELPS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT
CERTAINLY ADDRESSES MY CONCERN ,
DEFINITELY DAWN'T WANT TO SEE
OUR RESIDENTIAL RATE CUSTOMERS
BEAR THE BURDEN OF SOME OF THESE
LARGE LOAD CUSTOMERS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LIN.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THIS
TIME BEFORE I GO INTO MY VERY
FEW QUESTIONS? BECAUSE EVERYONE
ASKED MINE. THANK YOU,
COLLEAGUES, FOR REALLY ROBUST
DISCUSSION. YOU MAKE MY JOB
EASY. I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON
ONE POINT HERE ABOUT WHERE WE GO
FROM HERE. IT HAS BEEN VERY
CLEARLY PRESENTED TODAY AS WE
ARE FACING AN EMERGING CRISIS
FOR OUR BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE . I
MADE AS A PERSONAL POINT OF
PRIVILEGE THAT, EVEN IN MY OWN
LIFE EXPERIENCES WITH ENERGY
SYSTEMS FAILING, I HAVE SEEN
FIRSTHAND THE DEVASTATING
CONSEQUENCES OF THAT I KNOW YOU
ALLUDED TO THE CALIFORNIA FIRES
OF LIVES LOST DUE TO LACK OF
MAINTENANCE TO THE ELECTRICAL
SYSTEM THAT CAUSED THE SPARK
THAT CAUSED A FIRE THAT TOOK THE
LIVES OF 85 FOLKS . BUT ALSO,
18,000 STRUCTURES . BUT ALSO
THINKING ABOUT , IN MY OWN
UPBRINGING, IF ANYONE IS
FAMILIAR WITH THE SAN BRUNO GAS
EXPLOSION ALSO CAUSED BY PG AND
D . ANOTHER CASE OF DEFERRED
MAINTENANCE , ESSENTIALLY
CAUSING AN EXPLOSION THAT TOOK
OUT 38 HOMES , WHERE EIGHT LIVES
WERE LOST. AND I HEARD THE
EXPLOSION FROM THE HOUSE. SO
WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE , OUR ELECTRICAL
SYSTEMS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
OUR LIVES AND LIVELIHOOD . HE
EXPERIENCED WITH THE CONSTITUENT
WITH POWER BEING OUT BEING
UNABLE TO MAINTAIN THE MEDICAL
CLIMATE THAT THEY NEEDED FOR
THEIR LIVELIHOOD. I HEARD
SIMILAR CASES ACROSS THE CITY.
WE ARE IN A CLIMATE CRISIS AND
OUR REGION PROCEEDS TO GET
HOTTER AND COLDER, NECESSITATING
RESIDENT NEEDS TO KEEP
THEMSELVES COLD AIR CONDITIONING
AND WARM WITH HEATING. WITH
THOSE POINTS, I WANT TO KNOW
WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR $2
BILLION OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS
TO BE ABLE TO REALLY TAKE UP
THIS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND
WORK . CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH
WHAT'S COMING AHEAD, BOTH AS A
RELATES TO OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH
RATES AND ANY COMPLEMENTARY
PLANNING , I BELIEVE, IF I'M
RECALLING CORRECTLY, WE HAVE AN
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLAN UPDATE
COMING NEXT YEAR. I MIGHT BE
WRONG ON THAT. BUT ANYTHING
ABOUT OUR PLANNING AND WORK ,
BROUGHT HER PLANNING AROUND
ENERGY GENERATION, HOW WE
UNDERSTAND ENERGY DEMAND AND SO
ON. IF YOU COULD PLEASE SPEAK TO
THAT.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND
THAT $2 BILLION REPRESENTS OUR
DIRECT BURIED CABLE PROGRAM. I
WAS QUOTING MORE IN THE $3.4
BILLION RANGE . TO TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE
AND EMPHASIS THAT WE HAVE , THIS
WILL BE ADDRESSED IN OUR
STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WILL BE
COMING UP IN QUARTER ONE OF NEXT
YEAR . WE WILL HIGHLIGHT THE
RESOURCES AND THE PLANNING IS
NECESSARY TO DO THIS WORK IN THE
NEXT 10 YEARS.
>> THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, ANY
FINAL QUESTIONS FOR OUR CITY
LIKE CALLINGS BEFORE WE WRAP
TODAY RIGHT ON TIME? I WANT TO
THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR
THOUGHTFUL ENGAGEMENT FOR THE
HARD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
CRITICAL INFORMATION AND YOU
HAVE CERTAINLY GIVEN US A LOT TO
THINK ABOUT AND TAKE UP THIS
WORK IN THE NEXT YEAR. WITH THAT
, WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF
TODAY'S MEETING AGENDA. IS
THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO
COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE BEFORE
WE ADJOURN? I'M HEARING NO
FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE
THE COMMITTEE. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
IT IS 11:30 A.M. HAPPY HOLIDAYS,
EVERYBODY.