>>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. THE
AUGUST 5th, 2025 MEETING OF THE
TRANSPORTATION MEETING WILL COME
TO ORDER. I'M THE CHAIR OF THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. WILL
THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
COUNCILMEMBER RINK.
>> PRESENT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUS.
>> PRESENT.
>> VICE CHAIR HOLLINGSWO RT H.
>> PRESENT.
>> CHAIR.
>> HERE.
>> CHAIR THERE ARE FOUR MEMBERS
PRESENT THOUGH I WILL NOTE THAT
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE IS --
APPEARS ONLINE BUT IS FACING
TECHNICAL ISSUES.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I NOTE
THAT COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE IS
EXCUSED UNTIL HE IS ABLE TO JOIN
OFFICIALLY. COLLEAGUES IF THERE
IS NO OBJECTION THE AGENDA WILL
BE ADOPTED. HEARING AND SEEING
NO OBJECTION THE AGENDA IS A
DON'TED. GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC FORTUNING IN TO TODAY'S
EXCITING MEETING OF THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THIS
WILL BE OUR LAST AND FINAL
MEETING BEFORE THE AUGUST
RECESS. THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF
AUGUST. TODAY WE HAVE A FULL,
ROBUST AGENDA BEFORE US. OUR
FIRST ITEM WILL BE A
PRESENTATION FROM THE PUGET
SOUND REGIONAL COUNCIL AND THE
GREAT WORK THEY DO TO SUPPORT
OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS. I HAVE
THE PLEASURE OF SETTING
ALONGSIDE OUR COLLEAGUE
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE ON THE
TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD. A
SUBBOARD OF THE PUGET SOUND
REGIONAL COUNCIL AND THE BROADER
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. LOOKING
FORWARD TO A FUN FILLED JAM
PACKED PRESENTATION FROM THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JOSH BROWN ON
SOME OF THE WORK. THIS COMMITTEE
OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF
HAS DEDICATED CONSIDERABLE TIME
TO HIGHLIGHTING THE WORK OF OUR
-- THAT OUR SDOT DOES EVERY DAY.
OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS INCLUDING
SOUND TRANSIT, KING COUNTY METRO
AND TODAY THE PUGET SOUND
REGIONAL COUNCIL ALSO DO
EXCELLENT WORK. WE WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THAT WORK AND
SHARE OUT SOME OF THE REGIONAL
LEARNINGS SO THANK YOU EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR JOSH BROWN FOR BEING
HERE TODAY. OUR SECOND ITEM IS A
POSSIBLE VOTE ON AN
ALLEYVACATION. WE HEARD ABOUT
THIS IN THE LAST COMMITTEE
MEETING IN DISTRICT 3 AND
BORDERS DISTRICT 2 AS WELL.
LOOKING FORWARD TO A REFRESHER
FROM THE CENTRAL STAFF AND
DEPARTMENT EXPERT ON THIS TOPIC.
FINALLY LAST BUT NOT LEAST WE
WILL HAVE A BRIEFING DISCUSS AND
POSSIBLE VOTE ON A NUMBER OF
DEEDS AND EASEMENTS. I
UNDERSTAND THERE ARE NO
SUBSTANTIAL POLICY DECISIONS TO
BE MADE BUT THEY ARE VERY
IMPORTANT THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS
BRIEFED ON THEM AND MAKING SURE
THIS COMMITTEE IS COMFORTABLE
VOTING ON THEM TODAY.
IN
THIS IS THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF
THE COMMITTEE WORK. THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THAT SAID
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE HYBRID
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
COMMENTSSHOULD RELATED TO ITEMS
ON THEA THE AGENDA.
>> WE HAVE ONE IN PERSON SPEAKER
AND ONE REMOTE AND COUNCILMEMBER
KETTLE HAS JOINED US.
>> YES. I WAS HERE. I WAS IN THE
ZOOM PENALTY BOX BUT I GOT OUT.
>> WELCOME COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES. WE WILL START WITH THE
IN PERSON SPEAKER FIRST. CLERK
COULD YOU READ THE PUBLIC
COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS.
>> THE PUBLIC COMMENT MIRED WILL
BE MODERATED IN THE FOLLOWING
MATTER. IT'S UP TO 20 MINUTES,
SPEAKER ALSO BE CALLED IN THE
ORDER IN WHICH THEY REGISTERED.
THEY WILL ALTERNATE BETWEEN IN
PERSON AND REMOTE UNTIL THE
COMMENT PERIOD HAS ENDED.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
THEY HAVE TEN SECONDS LEFT. THEY
WILL BE MUTED WHEN THEY ARE OUT
OF TIME. THE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD IS NOW OPEN. WE WILL
START WITH THE FIRST SPEAKER ON
THE LIST. HOLLY PARDNER.
>> GOOD MORNING. I'M HERE TODAY
BECAUSE I SAW THE -- AND I
WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK
THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF
SEATTLE AND SDOT IN PARTICULAR
FOR A SIX YEAR PARTNERSHIP IN A
VERY COMPLEX PROJECT THAT I HAVE
ENJOYED WORKING ON. SO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR KIND AND INSPIRATIONAL
WORDS.
>> THANK YOU. OKAY AND WE HAVE
ONE REMOTE PUBLIC COMMENTER.
DADE HAYNES. DAVID, WHEN YOU ARE
AUTHORIZED TO SPEAK PLEASE
REMEMBER TO SPEAK STAR 6.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DAVID
HAYNES. YOU KNOW HOW DISTRICT 5
TRIED IT SWEEP OUT ALL THE
CRIMINALS CRIMINALS? THERE SEEMS
TO BE A PROBLEM WITH HUMAN
TRAFFICKERS THAT ARE USING THE
SOUND LINK LIGHT-RAIL TRAINS AND
THEY GOT THEIR PROSTITUTES IN
TOW AND WITH IN ARM'S DISTANCE.
THEY ARE LIKE GETTING DROPPED
OFF IN UNIVERSITY DISTRICTS AND
THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THEY ARE
GETTING AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE WE
HAVE THESE UNTRUSTWORTHY,
DISHONEST, EXTREMELY LAZY PEOPLE
IN THE BADGE, A SECURITY GUARD
WHO ARE CLUELESS ABOUT WHAT THE
HECK IS GOING ON IN THE
COMMUNITY AND THEY DON'T REALLY
CARE. IT'S LIKE THIS GUY TRIED
TO FIGHT ME BECAUSE I ASKED HIM
NOT TO SMOKE AT THE 148 LINK
LIGHT-RAIL AND THE SECURITY
GUARD SAID HE IS ONLY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UPPER
PLATFORM. HE COULD ALMOST LOOK
OVER AND SEE THE GUY TRYING TO
BOTHER PEOPLE BUT THAT'S NOT
HIS JURISDICTION. EVEN THOUGH
IT'S ON THE SAME PART OF THE
PROPERTY. AND, YOU KNOW,
YESTERDAY I HAD TO RUN ACROSS
THE LINK -- EXCUSE ME. I GOT OFF
THE LINK LIGHT-RAIL AND TEN
SECONDS BEFORE I GOT TO THE
BOTTOM OF THE STEPS THE NUMBER
65 DRIVES AWAY. SO, WHAT'S
HAPPENING IS KING COUNTY METRO
IS NOT BEING LIKE -- EFFICIENTLY
WORKING WITH SOUND LINK
LIGHT-RAIL TO MAKE THE TRANSPER
TRANSFER PROPER SO I JUST STOOD
AND MADE THE BUS STOP AND LET ME
ON THE BUS. YOU SHOULD HAVE
WAITED TEN SECONDS AND IT'S
LIKE RIDICULOUS THINGS LIKE THAT
RUIN YOUR DAY EVERY DAY RELYING
ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. YOU
KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THE JUNKIES
ON THE SOUND LINK LIGHT-RAIL ON
THE FRONT PART OF THE CAR. EVERY
TIME THEY BREATHE, WHATEVER
TOXIC SPEWS OF DISEASE THAT
COMES OUT OF THEM GOES ALL THE
WAY TO THE BACK. A SPEW ONTO
INNOCENT PEOPLE. WE NEED TO
ADDRESS THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
>> THANK YOU, DAVID. THAT IS ALL
THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
>> WELL DONE. WE WILL NOW MOVE
ON TO THE FIRST ITEM OF
BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
READ IT, ITEM NUMBER 1.
>> AGENDA ITEM 1, PSRC REGIONAL
TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. WILL OUR
PRESENTER PLEASE JOIN US AT THE
TABLE AND SHARE YOUR
PRESENTATION? ONCE READY PLEASE
INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND PROCEED.
>>> GOOD MORNING SHARE AND
MEMBERS OF THE TRANSPORTATION
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME HERE TODAY. I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE THE
COMMITTEE ON THE WORK WE DO AT
PSRC IN CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH
THE CITY OF SEE THE SEATTLE. I
WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER
SAKKA AND KETTLE. THEY ARE THE
LEADS DOING A LOT OF HEAVY
LIFTING. ASSOCIATION LOOK
FORWARD TO SHARE SOMETHING WORK
AND WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO
TODAY, IN TERMS OF PROVIDING THE
UPDATE IS NOT JUST DIVE INTO OUR
WORK IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION
PLANNING BUT MAYBE TAKING A STEP
BACK FOR THE CONTEXT OF REGIONAL
PLANNING IN THE PUGET SOUND
AREA. REMIND THE COUNCIL ON
WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT PLAN.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING TO
IMPLEMENT THE CURRENT PLAN AND
THE EFFORTS UNDERWAY TO DEVELOP
THE NEXT PLAN FOR THE REGION.
LET'S GO BACK TO 1960, TWO
YEARS BEFORE THE SPACE NEEDLE
DOTTED THE BEAUTIFUL SKYLINE.
THE CITY'S POPULATION WAS
NEARLY 560,000 PEOPLE. ABOUT A
THIRD OF THE POPULATION OF THE
ENTIRE REGION AND IT'S
INTERESTING TO GO BACK IN THAT
PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE STATE
WAS THE SIZE OF IOWA. WE SAW
OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS HUGE
GROWTH AT NEARDOUBLING OTHER
AREA'S POPULATION FROM 1960 TO
1990. AN UNUSUAL SITUATION TOOK
PLACE. OUR LARGEST CITY, SEATTLE
LOST POPULATION. WE HAD FLIGHTS
TO THE SUBURBS. THIS WAS NOT
JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN
OUR CITY. WE WERE SEEING THE
SAME FLIGHT TO THE SUBURBS
HAPPENING ACROSS THE UNITED
STATES. WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR
REGION AND IN OUR STATE WAS A
RESPONSE TO THAT FLIGHT TO THE
SUBURBS, A LACK OFINFRASTRUCTURE
AND COORDINATED PLANNING. THE
GROWTH MANAGEMENTS ACT WAS
ADOPTED IN 1990 AND THEY FORMED
A REGIONAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS I KNOW YOU
ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. OUR
AGENCY THE PUGET SOUND REGIONAL
COUNCIL WAS REORGANIZED IN 1991.
THAT WAS A BIG FOCUS TO CHANGING
TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT
APPROACH WHERE WE HAD THE
PLANNED USE.
OUR ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS
WILL BE DETERMINED BY OUR
REGIONAL PLANNING. VISION 2050
IS THE VISION. LAST TIME WE
ADOPTED A REGIONAL GROWTH
STRATEGY WAS IN OCTOBER OF 20.
WHERE WE WERE AS A COUNTRY AND
WORLD IN OCTOBER OF 2020 AND THE
PANDEMIC. IT WAS A CHALLENGING
TIME BUT THAT WAS THE TIME FOR
US TO REALLY SET THE NORTH STAR
AS BEST AS WE COULD DURING A
PRETTY CHALLENGING PUBLIC HEALTH
CRISIS TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE
REGION WOULD GROW TO 5.8 MILLION
RESIDENTS BY 2050. IT'S A GOOD
POINT TO REFLECT ON HOW OUR
REGIONAL PLANS CONNECT. VISION
2050 ARE LAND USE AND GROWTH
STRATEGY FOR THE REGION IS THE
NORTH STAR. THIS IS VERY MUCH
DIFFERENT THAN FROM OTHER
REGIONS. WE HAVE NPO'S ACROSS
THE COUNTRY. EVERY METROPOLITAN
AREA WITH POPULATION OF OVER
50,000 RESIDENTS IS REQUIRED TO
HAVE A METROPOLITAN PLANNING
ORGANIZATION. THOSE REGIONS JUST
FOCUS ON TRANSPORTATION IN A
BOX.
WE ARE TIED TO AND FEED INTO
VISION 2050. THE WAY I WOULD
INVERT THAT IS ITS VISION 2050
AND THEN USING OUR ECONOMIC
STRATEGY AND TRANSPORTATION PLAN
TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE ARE DOING
THOSE KEY PRIORITIES AND
PLANNING POLICIES AND VISION
2050. SO WHEN HE ADOPTED VISION
2050 IN 2020 WE HAD DIFFERENT
THINGS HAPPENING IN THE REGION.
IN MY CAREER NEARLY 20 YEARS IN
GOVERNMENT SERVICE WE HAVE BEEN
STRUGGLING TO GET VOTER APPROVAL
TO BUILD OUR REGIONAL LIGHT-RAIL
TRANSIT NETWORK OF EXPANDING
TRANSIT WHETHER IT'S B RT
CORRIDORS OR KITSAP COUNTY, THE
FAST FERRY SYSTEM. WE ARE IN A
PLACE IN 2020 WHERE WE KNEW OVER
THE COMING YEARS WE HAD HISTORIC
INVESTMENTS IN TRANSIT COMING
ONLINE. WE BUILT VISION 2050
AROUND RESPONDING AND TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THE PLANNED TRANSIT
INVESTMENTS. FOR THE FIRST TIME
IN THE REGION WE SET GROWTH
TARGETS OF HOW MUCH OF OUR JOBS
AND EMPLOYMENT AND POPULATION
GROWTH WOULD HAPPEN AROUND KEY
GROWTH CENTERS. 65% OF THE
REGION'S POPULATION ALONG THE
KEY TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND
STATION AS LONG WITH 75% OF OUR
EMPLOYMENT GROWTH. WE SET THAT
AS A GOAL FOR THE REGION. LET'S
THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE PLACES
WHERE WE HAVE JOBS AND THAT ARE
IDENTIFIED AS REGIONAL GROWTH WE
MOVED TO THE REGION, MY FAMILY
IN THE EARLY 90s. THINK ABOUT
WHAT BELLEVUE LOOKED LIKE OR
SOUTH LAKE UNION IN THE EARLY
90s. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN
WHAT THEY ARE TODAY. THAT WAS
INTENTIONAL. WE SET A FOCUS ON
PLACES LIKE DOWNTOWN BELLVILLE.
PLACES WHERE WE WANT TO TARGET
GROWTH AND IT'S RESPONDED. AT
THE SAME TIME THE PORT OF TACOMA
AND PAYNE FIELD WHICH ARE
INDUSTRIAL CENTERS ALONG WITH
SOTO. WE HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC
JOB IN TERMS OF PRESERVING THE
FOOT PRINT OF THESE CRITICAL JOB
CENTERS. WE CONNECT WITH
TRANSPORTATION. THAT'S THE RING
WITH THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION
PLAN HAVING THE VISION WHERE WE
WANT GROWTH TO GO AND THEN
CONNECTING THE RIGHT TRANSIT
INVESTMENTS TO THOSE KEYS
PLACES. IF YOU DO AN OVERLAY OF
WHERE THE REGIONAL GROWTH
CENTERS IN THE REGION WHICH IS
THE MAP ON THE LEFT, ALL THOSE
DOTS. THESE ARE THE PLACES IN
THE REGION THAT WILL ACCEPT THE
HIGHEST NUMBER OF JOBS AND
POPULATION GROWTH IN THE REGION.
THEN IF YOU MOVE OVER TO THE
RIGHT WHERE WE ARE MAPPING OUT
THE KEY TRANSIT CORRIDORS YOU
SEE HOW LINKED THEY ARE. THAT IS
BY -- THAT IS ON PURPOSE AND
THAT IS BY DESIGN. THAT IS VERY
MUCH CONNECTING HOW
TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE ARE
SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATED HERE IN
THE PUGET SOUND REGION. THE
RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES WE
HAVE REDUCED SPRAWL SINCE
ADOPTION OF THE GROWTH
MANAGEMENT ACT IN 1991 ABOUT 30%
OF THE GROWTH WAS HAPPENING
OUTSIDE OF THE URBAN GROWTH AREA
AND OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS.
TODAY VIRTUALLY, WELL IN KING
COUNTY NEARLY ALL OF THE GROWTH
IS HAPPENING WITH IN THE URBAN
GROWTH BOUNDARY AND ON A
REGIONAL BASIS IT'S 97% OF
GROWTH HAPPENING WITH IN THE
URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY. WE ARE
SEEING CHANGES IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE. SINCE 1990 THE CITY'S
POPULATION HAS ABSOLUTELY
BOOMED. WE HAVE REVERSED THE
TREND OF POPULATION LOSS IN THE
CITY OF SEATTLE 300,000
RESIDENTS HAVE JOINED THE CITY
OF SEATTLE SINCE 1990. A PRETTY
DRAMATIC FIGURE. IF YOU COMPARE
THE CITY TO OTHER SIMILAR CITIES
THAT HAVE STRONG TECH ECONOMIES,
ON THE WATERFRONT, BOSTON AND
SAN FRANCISCO, OBVIOUSLY COME
UP. THESE ARE CITY THAT HAVE TO
GROW UP. FROM 1960 TO 1990 ALL
THREE OF THESE CITIES HAD
SIMILAR GROWTH PATHS IN TERMS OF
POPULATION BEING LOST BUT REALLY
WHILE ALL THREE OF THESE CITIES
HAVE GROWN SINCE 1990 SEATTLE'S
GROWTH IS OFF THE CHARTS
COMPARED TO BOSTON AND SAN
FRANCISCO. ABOUT 100,000 PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN ADDED TO BOSTON AND
SAN FRANCISCO SINCE 1990.
300,000 IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
THREE TIMES THE GROWTH. THINK
WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF
BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THE
HOUSING CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE
AS A REGION. SO LET'S SHIFT TO
TRANSPORTATION. I SET YOU
UPWARDS WITH A STRONG LAND USE
FOCUS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE WHY THE
CONFERENCE OF PLAN THAT THE CITY
IS GOING THROUGH TIED TO WHAT'S
IMPORTANT AS PART OF THIS NEXT
TRANSPORTATION PLAN. LET ME
START WITH WHAT A REGIONAL
TRANSPORTATION PLAN AS A
METROPOLITAN PLANNING
ORGANIZATION OVER 50,000
RESIDENTS WERE REQUIRED UNDER
FEDERAL LAW EVERY FOUR YEARS TO
ADOPT A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION
PLAN. WE HAVE TO ADOPT A
REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN
EVERY FOUR YEARS. IT HAS TO HAVE
THE MINIMUM OF A 20 YEAR
PLANNING WHO STOP. WE HAVE TO
HAVE ASSUMPTIONS IN TERMS OF
REVENUE THAT WE CAN FORECAST
WHETHER IT'S CURRENT LAW
REVENUE. REVENUE THAT'S ON THE
BOOKS THAT WE ARE USING FOR
TRANSPORTATION OR THE POTENTIAL
TO SECURE NEW REVENUE SOURCES
OVER THAT 20 PLUS PLANNING
HORIZON. IF WE DO DON'T HAVE A
REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN WE
CAN'T UNLOCK THE DOOR AND TAP
INTO ALL THE CRITICAL FUNDS THAT
THE AREA COUNTS ON. WE
DISTRIBUTE EVERY TWO YEARS OVER
$600 MILLION OF TRANSPORTATION
FUNDING. THINK OF THE FTA GRANTS
OR OTHER KEY GRANTS THAT THE
CITY COMPETES FOR ON A FEDERAL
BASIS. WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS PLAN
TO UNLOCK THE DOOR TO THAT
FEDERAL FUNDING OF ALL SORTS.
AND WE HAVE TO HAVE PROJECTS TO
BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT FEDERAL
FUNDING. THEY HAVE TO BE
IDENTIFIED IN THE REGIONAL
TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THAT REALLY
GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE CLOSE
CONNECTION BETWEEN THE WORK THAT
MY STAFF DOES WITH ALL OF OUR
MEMBER GOVERNMENTS, CITIES,
COUNTIES, TRANSIT AGENCIES OR
OTHER PARTNERS. IN THE CURRENT
PLAN WE ADOPTED LAST TIME IN
2022 WITH THE PLANNING HORIZON
OUT TO 2050 IT'S A BIG PLAN.
$300 MILLION IN 28 YEARS. S IN A
BIG NUMBER. IF YOU A STEP BABB.
HALF OF THE INVESTMENTS, OVER
HALF,A 6% IS ABOUT MAINTAINING
WHAT WE HAVE. I KNOW THAT
RESONATES WITH THIS COMMITTEE
THAT HAS A STRONG FOCUS ON
MAINTAINING THE INFRASTRUCTURE
OR THE BRIDGES OR IMPORTANT
ASPHALT OVERLAYS. IN TERMS OF
CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE A
VERY TRANSIT FOCUSED REGIONAL
TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 70% OF THE
DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
CAPACITY EXPANSION IN THE PU GET
SOUND REGION, 70% IS TIED TO
TRANSIT PROJECTS. VERY DIFFERENT
FROM WHAT YOU SEE FROM OTHER
REGIONS WHERE YOU WILL HAVE A
MUCH MORE ROAD CENTERED OR
HIGHWAY CENTERED PLAN. AND GOOD
NEWS TO REPORT WHEN WE ADOPTED
THIS PLAN IN 2022, 84% OF THE
PLAN WAS FULLY FUNDED BY CURRENT
LAW REVENUE. SO MEANING OVER THE
NEXT 28 YEARS WE ONLY NEED TO
SECURE 16% OF THE $300 BILLION
TOTAL. I WAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER
OF THE PLAN BEING FUNDED BY OUR
CURRENT LAW REVENUE THAT WE HAVE
EXPERIENCED IN A WHILE. THAT'S
A MEASURE OF THE SUCCESSES FROM
SOUND TRANSIT THREE TO ACTION BY
THE STATE TO SECURE INVESTMENTS.
THIS WOULD BUILD OUT 36 BUS
RAPID TRANSIT ROUTES AND
CORRIDORS IN THE REGION. TEN
PASSENGER FERRY ROUTES AND 116
MILES OF LIGHT-RAIL AS EXAMPLES
OF KEY PROJECTS. WHAT'S INCLUDED
IN THE PLAN, PROJECTS OF ALL
TYPES. CITY STREETS, COUNTY
ROADS, REGIONAL TRANSIT. LOCAL
TRANSIT PROJECTS, STATE FERRY,
HIGHWAYS, OTHER KEY PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW THAT -- THAT ARE NEEDED
ON A REGIONAL BASIS. I BRING
THIS UP BECAUSE THERE ARE KEY
ELEMENTS OF THE TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEM THAT AREN'T INCLUDED IN
THE PLAN. THE WAY TO MAYBE
REALLY THINK ABOUT IT BASICALLY
IS YOU CAN THINK OF A PROJECT
THAT CAN BE FUNDED BY THE
FEDERAL HIGHWAY OR TRANSIT
ADMINISTRATION THAT'S ALL THE
PROJECTS I JUST OUTLINED THAT'S
IN THE PLAN F THERE ARE PROJECT
THAT ARE RELATED LET'S SAY TO
SEATAC INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
THAT ARE FAA RELATED THEY
AREN'T IN THE PLAN. WE TALK
ABOUT AIRPORT, AMTRAK CASCADE.
WE DON'T HAVE FRA AND FAA
RELATED PROJECTS AND REVENUE IN
THE PLAN. WE OBVIOUSLY
COORDINATE WITH OUR AIRPORTS AND
WITH THE AMTRAK CASCADES ON
PRIORITIES BUT WE DON'T HAVE
THAT LEVEL OF CONTROL THAT'S
NEEDED. WHEN WE ADOPTED THE PLAN
IN 2022 WE FOCUSED ON PUTTING A
POINT ON NEW PRIORITIES FOR THE
REGION. SAFETY, EQUALITY,
CLIMATE, TRANSIT ACCESS ALONG
WITH A STRONGER, INVENTORY OF
THE TRANSPORTATION. I KNOW THESE
ARE PRIORITIES FOR THIS COUNCIL
COMMITTEE AS WELL AND FOR THE
CITY OF SEATTLE. FIRST WITH
SAFETY. WE IDENTIFIED SAFETY AS
A CRISIS. WE WERE AND CONTINUE
TO BE HEADED IN THE WRONG
DIRECTION IN THE TERMS OF THE
NUMBER OF SERIOUS ACCIDENTS AND
DEATHS. WE CONVENED AS AN ACTION
ITEM FROM THE CURRENT PLAN A
SAFETY SUMMIT FOR THE REGION FOR
THE FIRST TIME IN JUNE OF 2023
BRINGING TOGETHER STAKE HOLDERS
ONE OF THE ACTION ITEMS IN THE
PLAN WAS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
REGIONAL SAFETY ACTION PLAN. WE
HAVE OVER 20 JURISDICTIONS IN
THE AREA. MORE OF THE WORK DONE
BY THE CITY THAT HAVE GONE OUT
AND DEVELOPED SAFETY ACTION
PLANS TO REALLY BE SPECIFIC
ABOUT HOW WE CAN TURN THE TIDE
AGAINST SERIOUS ACCIDENTS AND
DEATHS ON THE ROADWAYS. THIS --
THIS PREVIOUS MAY WE ADOPTED AT
OUR GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEETING FOR
THE FIRST TIME THE REGION SAFETY
ACTION PLAN PROVIDING A NORTH
STAR FOR WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS
ON IN TERMS OF TURNING THE TIDE
ON DEATH AND ACCIDENT, SERIOUS
ACCIDENTS ON THE ROADWAYS. WE
HAVE LEANED IN TO EQUITY FOR THE
$600 MILLION OTRANSPORTATION
FUNDING. WE HAVE AN EQUITY PILOT
TO HELP US THINK OF THE WAYS TO
HELP US PROVIDE EQUITY AS PART
OF SELECTION PROCESS THAT WILL
INFORM FUTURE PROCESSES AND I
THINK A BIG ELEMENT FOR THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WAS BETTER
OUTREACH TO COMMUNITIES THAT
HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF THE
DECISION MAKING FOR KEY PROJECTS
AND COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE LEARNED
A LOT IN TERMS OF HOW TO ADDRESS
THAT. WE CONTINUE TO LEAN IN ON
CLIMATE. OFTEN TIMES IN CLOSE
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CLEAN AIR
ENERGY THE CLIMATE PRODUCTION
PROGRAM WHICH HAS BROUGHT
TOGETHER MANY PARTNERS AND THEN
JUST WRAPPING UP TRANSIT ACCESS.
I LED WITH WHEN WE ADOPTED THE
PLAN IN 2022 AND ADOPTED VISION
20 OTHER WE HAD ADOPTED SOUND
TRAN IT WITH THE NUMBER OF
TRANSIT MEASURE ACROSS THE AREA.
THINKING ABOUT HOW WE GET THE
MOST OUT OF THESE INVESTMENTS. I
THINK WHAT WE HAVE FOUND WITH
THE DATA AND ANALYSIS IS OFTEN
TIMES THE BEST WAY TO GET PEOPLE
TO RIDE MORE TRANSIT MAY NOT BE
THE FREQUENCY BUT GETTER BETTER
ACCESS TO THE LAST MILE
CONNECTIONS AND EASIEST WAY TO
HAVE GREAT ACCESS TO TRANSIT IS
TO BUILD A LOT OF HOUSING AND
JOBS IN VERY CLOSE AREAS TO THE
TRANSIT CENTERS AND CORRIDORS.
THE SECOND WAY IS TO THINK ABOUT
THE LAST MILE CONNECTIONS
WHETHER THEY BE IMPROVED
SIDEWALKS, BIKING, OR OTHER
MODES TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE
TO ACCESS OUR TRANSIT CENTERS.
LET ME SKIP AHEAD AND JUMP INTO
WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW. AGAIN
EVERY FOUR YEARS -- IT FEELS
LIKE WE ARE ALWAYS PLANNING.
THAT'S THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT'S FAULT FOR MAKING
US UPDATE THESE PLANS EVERY FOUR
YEARS. SO, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE
OF OUR ANALYSIS AND DRAFT PLAN
DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEXT
TRANSPORTATION PLAN. WE WILL
ADOPT OUR NEXT TRANSPORTATION
PLAN IN 2026. THE PLANNING
HORIZON CONTINUES TO BE OUT TO
2050. HOW IS THIS PLAN GOING TO
BE DIFFERENT? WHAT ARE KEY
ELEMENTS ELEMENT? I MENTIONED A
CRITICAL ONE FROM THE MEMBER
GOVERNMENTS AND THAT IS THE
ADOPTION OF CONFERENCE PLANS.
SO, WE ARE WORKING WITH ALL OF
OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AT CITY
AND COUNCIL CONFERENCE OF PLANS
BEING UPDATED, TAKING ALL THE
PROJECTS BEING IDENTIFIED IN THE
CONFERENCE OF PLANS ALONG WITH
UPDATED FORECASTS IN TERMS OF
COSTS AND REVENUES AND
INCORPORATE THATINTO THE NEXT
TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THAT'S ONE
OF THE BIGGEST MOST FUNDAMENTAL
WAYS. THINK OF THIS NEXT PLAN AS
ONE OF THE FIRST DOMINOS
IDENTIFYING HOW WE IMPLEMENT THE
COLLECTIVE CONFERENCE OF PLANS.
REALLY IMPORTANT WORK AS WE
DEVELOP THIS. WE HAVE ASKED OUR
BOARD AND WE ASKED
COUNCILMEMBERS WHO SERVE ON THE
-- ON THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY
BOARD TO GIVE US FEEDBACK ON
PRIORITIES. YOU WILL SEE THAT A
LOT OF PRIORITIES THAT WE HEARD
FROM OUR BOARD MEMBERS ON ARE
THE SAME ONES THAT WE HAVE BEEN
LEANING IN TO. SAFETY, CLIMATE,
TRANSIT, EQUITY, FERRIES HAS
COME UP. MUCH HIGHER THAN IT WAS
FOUR YEARS AGO. WE HAVE BEEN
DOING A LOT OF WORK AT PSRC TO
SUPPORTSUPPORT THE WASHINGTON
STATE FERRY FLEET. WHEN YOU LOOK
AT OUR PRIORITIES THAT WE ARE
HEARING FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS
THERE'S NOT A BIG SHIFT OR
CHANGE. WE HAVE A DIRECTION WE
ARE HEADED IN THAT COMES VISION
2050 AND IT'S ABOUT FIGURING
OUT THE NEXT STEPS. THE LAST
SLIDE I WOULD JUST SHARE WITH
YOU BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO
QUESTIONS AND CONVERSATION IS
OUR REVENUE ASSUMESES ARE REALLY
A CRITICAL PIECE FOR HOW WE
IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN. I WANTED TO
FLAG THIS FOR THE CITY. NEWS
THAT'S NOT POSITIVE TO REPORT
IS WE HAVE LOST TRACTION A
LITTLE BIT IN TERM OF THE
FORECAST FOR CURRENT LAW
REVENUES VERSES THE FUNDING GAP.
WHEN WE ADOPTED THE PLAN IN 2022
2022 WE HAD A 16% FUNDING GAP,
NOW IT'S A 21% FUNDING GAP. WE
KNOW THE COST OF PROJECTS ALL
TYPES. THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE
PLAN. YOU KNOW THE OTHER
CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS THINKING
ABOUT HOW DO WE FILL THAT GAP?
WE HAD SOME VERY AGGRESSIVE
IDEAS IN THE LEVEL AND THE
FLEXIBILITY FOR A POTENTIAL ROAD
USER CHARGE IN THE REGION. WE
HAD IDEAS THAT WERE
SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN
REVENUE LEVELS AND WHAT STATE
LEGISLATIVE LEADERS HAVE SHOWN
AN APPETITE FOR. I THINK THE
OTHER ELEMENT OF THE ROAD USER
CHARGE JUST TO BE CLEAR IS WE
ARE SEEING MORE RELUCTANCE FROM
STATE AND LEGISLATIVE LEADERS IN
TERMS OF PROVIDING FLEXIBILITY
FOR THAT ROAD USER CHARGE TO GO
TO LOCAL PROJECTS, CITY STREETS
OR COUNTY ROADS AND CRITICALLY
FOR US IN THE PUGET SOUND REGION
TO TRANSIT. THAT WILL BE A KEY
AREA AND TOPIC OF CONSIDERATION
FOR OUR BOARD AS WE DEVELOP THIS
PLAN. WHAT OUR REVENUES ARE AND
WHAT WE SHOULD BE PERIOD EYEING
TO MOVE TOGETHER. A COUPLE
THINGS I WOULD NOTE WHEN WE LOOK
AT THE FUNDING GAPS. I WANT TO
BE CLEAR ABOUT ONE THING. THE
WAY WE ANALYZE AND INCORPORATE
ASSUMPTIONS FOR SOUND TRANSIT.
THIS IS A 2050 PLAN.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, WE ARE
AWARE OF THE FINANCIAL PRESSURES
THAT SOUND TRANSIT IS UNDER TO
DELIVER THE PROGRAM. WE ASSUME
THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO
COMPLETE IT BY 2050. A LOT OF
THE PROJECTS HAVE TIME HORIZONS.
IF WE NEED TO WORK WE WILL WORK
TOGETHER ON WHAT THAT MAY LOOK
LIKE. I WANTED TO NOTE FOR THE
FIRST TIME BY FAR THE LARGEST
REVENUE GAP IN THE
TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS NOT STATE
HIGHWAYS. IT IS NOT ACTUALLY OUR
TRANSIT SYSTEM. IT'S CITY
STREETS AND ROADWAYS. I THINK
THAT STORY THAT I SHARED AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE AMOUNT OF
GROWTH WE HAVE SEEN IN THE CITY
OF SEATTLE AND THE FACT THAT
CITIES ACROSS THE PUGET SOUND
REGION ARE GROWING UP AND NOT
OUT. WHAT THIS MEAN IS THAT OUR
CITIES IN PARTICULAR HAVE A LOT
OF PRESSURE TO THINK ABOUT HOW
YOU REIMAGINE AND REBUILD YOUR
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IN A WAY
THAT WORKS FOR A MORE URBAN
ENVIRONMENT. THE SPRING DISTRICT
IN BELL VILLE. WE HAVE SEEN THE
SPRING DISTRICT POP UP ALONG THE
LIGHT-RAIL CORRIDOR. YOU KNOW
THINK ABOUT WHAT WAS THERE JUST
A FEW YEARS AGO. IT WAS A
WAREHOUSE DISTRICT WE HAD A COKE
DISTRIBUTION AREA. WE HAD A
LARGE SAFEWAY. FOR THE CITY OF
BELLEVUE NO DIFFERENT THAN A LOT
OF THE WORK THAT CITY OF
LYNNWOOD OR TACOMA ARE DOING AS
WE SPEAK. ALONG WITH SAFETY AND
CLIMATE. YOU ARE HAVING TO
REIMAGINE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND
CONVERT WHAT HAD BEEN TWO LANE
ROADS FOR TRUCKS, THINK ABOUT
HOW YOU REBUILD THAT ENTIRE
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO WORK
FOR PEOPLE AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT'S EXPENSIVE. THAT'S WHAT
WE ARE SEEING REFLECTED. SO WITH
THAT I KNOW I COVERED A LOT. I
THREW A LOT AT YOU. I WANTED TO
KEEP ENOUGH TIME OPEN FOR
QUESTIONS AND CONVERSATION. I'M
HAPPY TO GO BACK TO ANY OF THE
EARLIER SLIDES. GRATEFUL FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF THE
COMMITTEE. GREATFUL FOR THE WORK
BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ALONG
WITH STAFF AND LOOK FORWARD TO
ANY QUESTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU.
>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BROWN. REALLY
APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION
HERE. I WILL OPEN IT UP TO
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL
IN JUST A MOMENT. AGAIN JUST
WANT TO SAY THANK OUR GUEST
PRESENTER TODAY. I WILL NOTE
THAT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BROWN IS
A FORMER ELECTED OFFICIAL HAVING
SERVED I THINK KITSAP COUNTY
COMMISSIONER FOR A FEW TERMS. WE
ARE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM
AT THE HELM OF PSRC. COLLEAGUES,
I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS
AND I NOTE THAT -- IN PARDON IN
ADVANCE COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. I
KNOW THIS WAS -- THIS WAS WAY
MORE THAN A REFRESHER FOR YOU
AND I BUT IMPORTANT STUFF.
COLLEAGUES. QUESTIONS. COMMENTS.
ALL RIGHT. GO HEAD.
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE NEVER
DISAPPOINTS. GO HEAD. FLOOR IS
YOURS.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR
SAKA. DIRECTOR BROWN, I'M
REALLY -- I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR JOINING US TODAY. I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE
COMMUNITY TO GIVE BASELINE. YOUR
PRESENTATION WENT A LONG WAY TO
DO THAT. CONVERSELY THINK IT'S
GOOD TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.
CLEARLY SOUND TRANSIT, KC METRO
PARTNERSHIPS AND SOME OF THOSE
ISSUE THAT COME UP, YOU KNOW.
YOU PROBABLY HEAR FROM DIFFERENT
AREAS BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD FOR
US AS ELECTED LEADERS OR IN --
POSITIONS LIKE WITH THE PSRC TO
HEAR THAT COMMENT. SOMETIMES
COLORFUL WITH THAT PERSON BUT,
YOU KNOW IT DOES HIGHLIGHT SOME
OF THE CHALLENGES BECAUSE WE
WANT TO GROW OUR RIDER SHIP. WE
WANT TO GROW THE PARTICIPATION
IN PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM AND SO
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE JUST TO
HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE,
YOU KNOW. WE ALL HAVE EXTERNAL
COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS, WE ALL
HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM. I REALLY
LIKE THE PUGET SOUND REGIONAL
COUNCIL BUT IT IS ORGANIZED. IT
IS DISCIPLINED AND IT'S FOCUSED
ON A PRODUCT. IT WAS A VERY
STRONG STAFF. SO THANK YOU TO
YOUR STAFF AS WELL. IT GETS A TO
B WITH SOME MAJOR DOLLARS, MAJOR
PLANS AND SO I JUST WANTED TO
THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT'S REALLY
A -- IT'S A BENCHMARK.
YESTERDAY IN OUR COUNCIL MEETING
WE WERE -- I WAS TALKING RELATED
TO THE BUDGET. I WAS TALKING
ABOUT THE NEED FOR SEATTLE
HOUSING PLAN. PART OF THE REASON
WHY I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THE
SEATTLE HOUSING INVESTMENT PLAN
IS BECAUSE OF THE EXPERIENCE OF
WATCHING THE PSRC. THIS
TRANSPORTATION PLAN EVERY FOUR
YEARS. IN TERMS OF THE PSRC
ANGLE BUT THEN ALSO WHAT WE DID
HERE LOCALLY WITH OUR CITY
COUNCIL AND SDOT. IT'S BECAUSE
OF THE EXPERIENCE AND SHOWING IT
TO BE DONE PROFESSIONAL. WE NEED
A SIMILAR PROCESS ON THE HOUSING
SIDE. I DON'T KNOW IF HUDD
DRIVES THIS THE WAY THAT, YOU
KNOW, THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION DOES BUT I
SUSPECT NOT. BOTTOM LINE IS THE
COMBINATION SETS A GREAT EXAMPLE
AND SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO
REPEAT IN OTHER AREAS. I JUST
WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR --
FOR LEADING BY EXAMPLE, DIRECTOR
BROWN. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
COUNCILMEMBER RINK. FLOOR IS
YOURS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW WHEN I
WAS WITH THE SOUND CITY
ASSOCIATION YEARS AGO AND WE
WORKED ON 2050 IT WAS CERTAINLY
A TIME. I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS
IMPRESSIVE TO SEE THE WAY PSRS
TOGETHER AND CHAMPIONS REGIONAL
COLLABORATION. THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE IN COMMITTEE TODAY. I
HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
MAYBE PUTTING ON MY HAT AS
SUSTAINABILITY CHAIR A QUESTION
ABOUT EXPANDING ON THE CLIMATE
ELEMENT AS OUTLINED. I KNOW IN
2022 WE ADOPTED AN RT P THAT
DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEET OUR
CLIMATE GOALS AND NOW THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ATTACKING
THING THAT ARE BEDROCK TO EVEN
THAT PLAN WE ADOPTED. THIS
CLIMATE ELEMENT IS DEEPLY
IMPORTANT. WHAT IS CURRENTLY
HAPPENING NOW WITH THOSE
ELEMENTS?
>> YEAH. EXCELLENT QUESTION.
CLIMATE CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF
OUR FUNDAMENTAL PRIORITIES FOR
THE REGION. A CHALLENGE WHEN WE
DEVELOP OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN
IS THINKING ABOUT WHICH LEVERS
WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL
AND MAKE THE IMPACT ON CLIMATE.
WE ARE DOING SOME THINGS VERY
WELL AS A REGION. ONE WITH LAND
USE. PLANNING A COMPACT
ENVIRONMENT. WE KNOW WE HAVE A
PRETTY SUBURBAN ENVIRONMENT
TODAY BUT THINK OF THE REGION
TODAY, FOUR AND A HALF MILLION
PEOPLE AND BY 205. THOSE
RESIDENTS WILL BE IN THE URBAN
CORE. THE CITY OF SEATTLE. THE
LAST FIVE YEARS ALONE IN TERMS
OF SPLIT POPULATION GROWTH HAS
GROWN FASTER THAN PEARCE AND
SNOHOMISH COMBINED. TWO COUNTY
THAT ARE 1.8 MILLION PEOPLE, SO
NEARLY TWICE -- TWICE THE
POPULATION OF THE CITY OF
SEATTLE ARE GROWING SLOWER THAN
THE CITY ALONE. THAT IS THE BEST
THING WE CAN DO FOR CLIMATE IS A
COMPACT ENVIRONMENT. THE SECOND
BEST THING IS TO MAKE SURE WE
HAVE REALLY GREAT TRANSIT AND
BIKING AND WALKING OPTIONS SO
PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO JUMP IN
THEIR CARS. THE AREAS WHERE IT
GETS MORE CHALLENGING FOR US IS
WE LOOKED AT THE ROAD USER
CHARGE AS A POTENTIAL LEVER TO
BE ABLE TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO
LEAN INTO TRANSIT AND OTHER
OPTIONS WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THE
LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN MUCH MORE
RELUCTANT TO PROVIDE A ROBUST
ROAD USER CHARGE TO LET US
REALLY CHANGE TRAVEL BEHAVIORS.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT ELSE CAN
WE DO IN THE TOOLBOX OF OPTIONS?
WHAT WE FOUND AFTER WE ADOPTED
OUR PREVIOUS TRANSPORTATION PLAN
THROUGH A LOT OF ANALYSIS AND
WORKING WITH EXPERT IS THAT LAST
MILE CONNECTION TRANSIT ACCESS
IS REALLY A NEXT KEY LEVER THAT
WE CAN REALLY DRIVE TOGETHER. I
THINK THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE ARE
BUILDING BIG EXPENSIVE PROJECTS
AND WE THINK OF -- WE GO TO THE
CELEBRATION FOR, YOU KNOW FOR
THE REDMON OPENING. WE WILL ALL
BE AT THE FEDERAL WAY OPENING,
THE LYNNWOOD OPENING. THOSE ARE
AMAZING PROJECTS BUT WE SHOULD
THINK ABOUT HOW TO CELEBRATE
THAT LAST MILE SIDEWALK OR THAT
BIKE LANE TO GET PEOPLE TO THE
CONNECTIONS. THAT PROBABLY
DOESN'T BRING OUT OUT HUNDREDS
OR THOUSANDS BUT THEY ARE REALLY
CRITICAL. I THINK WE ARE TRYING
TO IDENTITY WAYS TO BE ABLE, YOU
KNOW, TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE
KEY ACTION THAT THE MEMBER
GOVERNMENTS CAN MAKE. THE LAST
THING I WOULD SAY IS THESE
REGIONAL PLAN WE UPDATE WHERE
EVERY FOUR YEARS. WE WILL HAVE A
SNAP SHOT OF WHERE WE ARE AT AND
I THINK THAT IT GIVES US AN
OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND ARE WE
MAKING PROGRESS TO OUR GOALS OR
FALLING BEHIND? I THINK THAT IS
THE BEST OPPORTUNITY IN THIS
NEXT TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO
UNDERSTAND AGAIN, USING THE DATA
AND ANALYSIS TO INFORM US ARE WE
KEEPING PACE WITH WHERE WE WANT
TO GO OR ARE WE FALLING BEHIND
AND IF WE ARE FALLING BEHIND
THEN WE NEED TO DEVELOP
COLLECTIVE ACTION TO BE ABLE TO
ADDRESS IT. THE LIMITATION WE
HAVE WITH OUR PLAN IS WE ARE NOT
ARE THE PLANNING AGENCY. I THINK
WHERE WE CAN HELP AND YOU THE
OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT ARE
PASSIONATE ABOUT CLIMATE IS
IDENTIFYING THAT PROGRESS,
IDENTIFYING LEVERS THAT WE CAN
BRING TO BEAR IN TRYING TO
DEVELOP ON WHAT DO WE DO NEXT.
>> THANK YOU. WHEN YOU SAY
COMPACT ENVIRONMENT I HEAR MORE
HOUSING IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> TRANSIT. MORE HOUSING
ANYWHERE WE BUILD TRANSIT. YOU
KNOW THINK OF COMMUNITY LIKE
LYNNWOOD. WHEN I STARTED THE
PSRC EXIVE DIRECTOR LYNNWOOD
STRUGGLED TO SEE HOUSING BEING
BUILT IN THEIR CENTER THIS IS
YEARS WHEN THE LINK OPENED. WE
ARE SEEING A TRANSFORMATION .
IT'LL CONTINUE TO TRANSFORM.
IT'S IN THE SUBURBS STEPPING UP
TO GROWTH IN A PLANNED
COORDINATED WAY AROUND THE
TRANSIT INVESTMENTS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. AS A
FOLLOW UP TO THIS UNDERSTANDING
THAT ONE OF THETHINGS YOU NOTED
WAS WHAT WE WILL SEE FOR THE
2026 UPDATE IS LARGELY
INCORPORATION PLANS. MY
UNDERSTANDING DID I'M WONDERING
ARE YOUANTICIPATING THIS 2026
PLAN TO BE A MAJOR UPDATE? WOULD
YOU DEFINE IT THAT WAY?
>> ABSOLUTELY. THE CLEAR
DIRECTION WE RECEIVED FROM OUR
BOARD AFTER WE ADOPTED THE PLAN
IN 2022 WAS TOKO TO START WITH
THE MAJOR UPDATE. WHAT WE WILL
SEE IS A NEW BASELINE OF
PROJECTS AND PRIORITY THAT COME
FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THAT
COME FROM THE CONFERENCE OF
PLANS. THAT'S ONE ELEMENT THE
OTHER ELEMENT I WOULD POINT TO
IS WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
REALLY HAVE A CLEAN SLATE
APPROACH TO THE CAPACITY
PROJECTS FOR OUR -- FROM -- FROM
WASHINGTON STATE AND FROM OUR
HIGHWAY SYSTEM THAT HAVE BEEN
LINGERING IN THE PLAN FOR A LONG
TIME. WHAT WE RECENTLY PRESENTED
TO THE BOARD -- NOT TO GET AHEAD
OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS BUT WE
PRESENTED THREE OPTIONS TO THE
BOARD AS PART OF CLEANING UP THE
CAPACITY LIST FOR PROJECTS IN
THE AREA. NUMBER ONE, IS IF A
PROJECT DOESN'T HAVE ANY
FUNDING CURRENTLY DEDICATED TO
ANY PART OF THE PROJECT WE
MOVING THOSE PROJECTS. NUMBER
TWO, IF A PROJECT IS NOT TO
START UNTIL AFTER 2040, REMOVING
THEM AS WELL AND THEN THE THIRD
OPTION WAS TO REMOVE CAPACITY
PROJECTS THAT SCORE LOW IN TERMS
OF OUR PROJECT PRIORITY PROCESS.
SO THE BOARD WILL GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS TO GIVE US STAFF
DIRECTION IN TERMS OF WHICH ONE
OF THOSE OPTIONS WE MOVE FORWARD
WITH. WE OPTION WOULD BE TO DO
ALL THREE. SO, HYPOTHETICALLY AN
ACTION AND A DIRECTION THAT THE
TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD
COULD GIVE TO MY STAFF WOULD BE
TO SAY, FOR CITY PROJECTS,
COUNTY PROJECTS AND TRANSIT
PROJECTS LET'S PROVIDE
MORENESSIBLE MORE CAPACITY TO
KEEP THEM IN THE FLEXIBILITY
LIST. WHEN IT COMES TO OUR
HIGHWAY INVESTMENT LIST, THE
CAPACITY LIST, REMOVE ALL THREE
SETS OF THOSE PROJECTS. IF A
HIGHWAY PROJECT IS NOT UNDERWAY.
IF THERE IS NO FUNDING CURRENTLY
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT,
NOT TO BEGIN UNTIL AFTER 2040
AND IT SCORES LOW IN RELATION TO
VISION 2050, REMOVE IT FROM THE
LIST. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY
BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS PLAN TO
MAKE IT A MAJOR UPDATE. IT'LL
DEPEND ON THE GUIDANCE FROM THE
TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD IN
TERMS OF HOW BOLD THE POLICY
BOARD WANTS TO BE BUT WE ARE
OPENING IT UP AND GETTING EVERY
OPPORTUNITY TO THE BOARD MEMBERS
TO GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT
YOU WANT THIS PLAN TO LOOK LIKE
AND NOT JUST KEEPING PROJECT
THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG
TIME BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN IN
THE PLAN FOR A LONG TIME BUT
HAVING A CLEAN SLATE APPROACH.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND MY
LAST QUESTION IS IF WE COULD GO
BACK JUST TWO SLIDES TO THE
FABULOUS TABLE HIGHLIGHTING
AVAILABLE REVENUES AND PROPOSED
EXPENSES. THANK YOU FOR THIS.
THIS IS A LOT OF CLARITY AND I
HAVE SOME FOLLOW UPS.
DO YOU HAVE A BREAK DOWN OF
WHERE THE GAP MONEY COULD COME
FROM AND WHAT'S VIABLE?
>> GREAT QUESTION. IF YOU LOOK
AT THE NEW REVENUE TABLE RIGHT
NOW YOU SEE ALL ZEROS. SO, IF
YOU WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT OUR
CURRENT TRANSPORTATION PLAN THE
LARGEST NEW REVENUE SOURCE THAT
WAS ASSUMED WAS A ROAD USER
CHARGE. JUST A LITTLE
BACKGROUND. WHAT WE HEARD FROM
LEGISLATIVE LEADERS THIS PAST
SESSION IS THAT THEY WERE SOME
LEGISLATIVE LEADERS WERE
COMFORTABLE PER SUING A ROAD
USER CHARGE THAT WAS --
REPLACEMENT ROUGHLY 2.4 CENTSS
PER MILE AND THAT WOULD BE
LIMITED FOR ROADWAY AND HIGHWAY
PURPOSES. NONE OF THOSE FUNDS
COULD GO TO TRANSIT PURPOSES.
WHAT WE HAD THOUGHT IN OUR PLAN
WAS NUMBER ONE A MUCH HIGHER
RATE, OFF PEAK RATE, OF FIVE
CENTS AND A PEAK RATE OF
10-CENTS A MILE WHICH WOULD HAVE
CREATED BILLIONS MORE IN TERMS
OF FUNDING FOR THE REGION. THE
SECOND THOUGHT WE HAD IN OUR
CURRENT PLAN IS A FLEXIBLE USE
OF THOSE REVENUES. BEING ABLE TO
PLUG THE HOLE FOR OUR TRANSIT
PARTNERS. BEING ABLE TO FUND
NONMOTORIZED INVESTMENTS AND A
LOT OF THING THAT THE STATE IS
VERY RELUCTANT TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH. SO WHAT WE NEED TO WORK
TOGETHER ON AS PART OF
DEVELOPING THIS PLAN IS DO WE
KEEP OUR ASSUMPTIONS FROM 2022
THAT SEEM CHALLENGING FROM WHAT
WE ARE HEARING LEGISLATIVE
LEADERS OR DO WE PIVOT IN A
DIFFERENT DIRECTION? WITH THE
DATA ABSOLUTELY SHOWS IS THE
BIGGEST NEED IN TERMS OF NUMBERS
AND DOLLARS AMOUNT IS FUNDING
FOR OUR CITY STREETS, AND
ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND URBAN
CORES TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH,
NUMBER TWO, TRANSIT SERVICE. SO
WHAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IS
STRONG COORDINATION WITH THE
CITY OF SEATTLE IN TERMS OF
THINKING OF WHAT TYPE OF REVENUE
TOOLS WOULD WORK FOR THE CITY
AND HOW DO WE GO ABOUT IT? JUST
A FOLLOW UP WOULD BE THINKING OF
IF THE STATE CONTINUES TO MOVE
DOWN THIS PATH OF LIMITING THE
ROAD USER CHARGE AT 2.4 CENTS A
MILE TWO POLICY QUESTIONS COME
UP THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE IN
TO THE PLAN. A REQUIREMENT THAT
THOSE FUNDS JUST DON'T GO TO
STATE PROJECTS. THAT THERE IS A
SPLIT WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
NUMBER TWO, THAT THE POTENTIAL
THAT FOR STATE INVESTMENTS THAT
THOSE FUNDS BE DEDICATED TO PREF
VACATION, MAINTENANCE AND
SAFETY. THOSE ARE A COUPLE
POLICY OPTIONS AND BEYOND THAT
IF THAT IS THE BASELINE THAT'S
STATE IS LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH, 2.4 CENTSS A MILE AN A
STATEWIDE BASIS WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT DO WE
ASK FOR SOME REGIONAL OR LOCAL
OPTIONS BEYOND THAT 2.4 CENTSS A
MILE? REMEMBER WE HAVE DONE THIS
FOR OTHER NEEDS IN THE CENTRAL
PUGET SOUND REGION. THE GROWTH
WE ARE EXPERIENCING IS
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
YOU ARE SEEING IN OTHER PARTS OF
WASHINGTON STATE. WE COULD ASK
FOR SOME TYPE OF ROAD USER
CHARGE ADD ON. HOWEVER, THAT MAY
BE INCORPORATED. THAT COULD THEN
GO TO PURPOSES IN THE PLAN AND
PRIORITY AND I THINK WHERE I
WOULD STEER THE, YOU KNOW FOR
CONVERSATION WOULD BE THE NEED
FOR CITY STREETS AND LOCAL
TRANSIT. WE NEED TO COLLABORATE
AND WORK TOGETHER ON WHAT THE
NEW TOOLS COULD BE. IT'S NOT
UNUSUAL THAT OUR -- THAT STATE
LEGISLATIVE LEADERS DO NOT HAVE
AS AGGRESSIVE AS AN APPETITE AT
TIMES AS WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE IN
THE CENTRAL PUGET SOUND REGION.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ASKED FOR
AUTHORIZATION OR TRANSIT
PACKAGES AND GOING BEYOND OTHER
PARTS OF THE STATE ARE WILLING
TO FUND. YOU KNOW WE ARE
PROBABLY BACK IN THAT PLACE
AGAIN WHERE WE NEED DIFFERENT
TOOLS THAN WHAT WORKED FOR THE
STATE AS A WHOLE.
>> THANK YOU. THAT WAS
INSTRUCTIVE. REALLY APPRECIATE
IT. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER RINK. AND VERY
INSIGHTFUL DIALOGUE THERE. I
NOTE THAT DURING ONE OF OUR
EARLIER COUNCIL BRIEFINGS I
SHARED WITH MY COLLEAGUES OUR
CONVERSATION WITH STATE SENATOR
AND I ASKED ABOUT NEW REVENUE
OPTIONS, PARTICULARLY WITH
RESPECT TO THIS UPCOMING SESSION
NEXT YEAR THE SHORT SESSION AND
AS YOU SORT OF SUGGESTED THERE
IS -- THERE APPEARS TO BE
SOMEWHAT LIMITED APPETITE FOR
NEW REVENUE AND THE THINGS THAT
POTENTIALLY COULD BE ON THE
TABLE INCLUDE TWEAK AROUND THE
EDGES TO THE TRANSPORTATION
BENEFIT. I WILL BE WORKING --
WORK IS UNDERWAY WITH OUR
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION. OIR TO LOOK AT
OPTIONS TO INFORM OUR POLICY
APPROACH FOR THIS COMING
LEGISLATIVE SESSION AS A CITY.
THAT WORK CONTINUES. FINAL
QUESTION -- WELL -- I WILL SEE
-- PAUSE FOR A COMMENT IN ANYONE
ELSE HAS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. DIRECTOR
GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN TODAY. I
DON'T HAVE MANY QUESTIONS FOR
YOU. I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE
HOW YOU TIED THE GROWTH THAT OUR
REGION HAS EXPERIENCED THROUGH
TRANSIT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY
ASOMUGHA AS WE TAKE UP THE PLAN
ABOUT ITEMS IN THE CITY HAVING
GROWN UP IN THE CITY I REMEMBER
THE 90s OF WHAT FELT LIKE YOU
--.
>> YOU AREN'T THAT OLD.
>> YOU FELT LIKE YOU KNEW EVERY
SINGLE PERSON IN THE CITY
BECAUSE YOU SAW THEM AT SOME
POINT. YOU WOULD RUN INTO PEOPLE
F YOU HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH
THEM IT REALLY FELT LIKE WE WERE
A SMALL TOWN. THAT'S NOT THE
CASE TODAY. LOOKING AT THE
NUMBERS BETWEEN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE AND THE CITY OF SAN
FRANCISCO. MAYBE WE COULD PULL
THE SLIDES BACK UP ACTUALLY.
SORRY. JUST SHOWING THE AMOUNT
OF GROWTH THAT -- THANK YOU,
THAT WE HAVE HAD BETWEEN 1960
AND 1990 WHICH WAS THAT WE LOST
POPULATION AS DID SAN FRANCISCO
BUT THEY WERE ALREADY AT SEVEN
AND A HALF THOUSAND PEOPLE. IN
THE LAST 15, 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS
I GUESS IT IS THAT THEY ONLY
GREW AT 100,000. THAT'S NOT A
LOT OF GROWTH FOR THEM. PROBABLY
EXPLAINS WHY SAN FRANCISCO HAS
GOTTEN SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE.
SEATTLE IS ALSO MORE EXPENSIVE.
LESS SO BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY
WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE CITY.
LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS IT SHOWS
US THE GROWING PAINS WE HAVE
EXPERIENCED. WHY -- I DON'T
KNOW IF THE NUMBERS STILL
ACCURATE BUT A FEW YEARS AGO IT
COST ABOUT $2,000 TO MOVE IN THE
CITY OF SEATTLE FROM PAYING FOR
FIRST, LAST, AND ALL OF THE
OTHER EXPENSES THAT ARE
ASSOCIATED WITH MOVING. IN
CHICAGO IT WAS $500 AVERAGE TO
MOVE. IT'S BACK TO WHAT YOU
WERE SAYING ABOUT LYNNWOOD. THE
TRANSIT TO OTHER PLACE THAT WE
CAN BUILD HOUSING THE REASON
CHICAGO IT'S ONLY $500 IS
BECAUSE AS THE ENTIRE CITY IS
CONNECTED WITH TRANSIT. IT'S
ONE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BECOMING
MORE COSTLY TO LIVE IN THERE IS
ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU
CAN STILL GET TO YOUR WORK. YOU
CAN GET TO YOUR JOB AND YOUR
FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT'S STILL
AFFORDABLE TO LIVE. WHILE
SEATTLE ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO TAKE
ON MORE DENSITY SO WE DON'T
BECOME WHAT SAN FRANCISCO IS. WE
ALSO NEED TO EXPAND OUR REACH TO
BECOME MORE LIKE CHICAGO IN A
WAY THAT WE ARE ABLE TO NAVIGATE
THROUGHOUT THIS COMMUNITY,
THROUGHOUT THIS REGION STILL
MAINTAIN OUR LIVELIHOODS NO
MATTER WHERE WE ARE IN OUR LIFE
AND REMAIN CONNECTED. IT'S VERY
DIFFERENT THAN THE 90s. THERE'S
SOME THINGS THAT I LOVE AND SOME
THINGS THAT I MISS. IF YOU
AREN'T GROWING YOU'RE
SHRINKING. WE HAVE A GOOD
PROBLEM ON OUR HANDS BUT IT'S
ONE TO SOLVE BECAUSE WITHOUT
YOUR WORK CONNECTING LAND USE
TRANSIT AND OUR REGION ACROSS
MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS I THINK
WE WOULD BE IN A LOT OF TROUBLE.
I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I WILL
LEAVE IT WITH. IF YOU WANT TO
SHARE ANYTHING BACK. PSRC IS
REALLY IMPORTANT. YOU ARE
CONNECTING COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
-- WE AREN'T REQUIRED TO WORK
TOGETHER UNLESS BY YOU. WE --
EACH AREA HAS ITS OWN RULES AND
I THINK THAT'S CONTRIBUTED TO
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE
HAVE AND IT'S REALLY GOOD TO
HAVE AN ORGANIZATION SUCH AS
YOURSELF BRINGING US TOGETHER.
NOT A QUESTION, VERY LONG
STATEMENT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
ADD ANYTHING WELCOME YOUR
OPINION.
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND
THINK WE HAVE A LOT TO BE PROUD
OF. YOU ARE RIGHT. MORE WORK TO
DO TOGETHER.
>> THANK YOU.
>> EXCELLENT. COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS. I WILL NOTE -- THIS IS
A GREAT SLIDE. THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER FOR YOUR COMMENTS
THERE. I WILL PILE ON WITH MY
OWN TWO CENTS. I NOTE THAT SO --
816,000 PER THE UNITED STATES --
THE LATEST UNITED STATES CENSUS
ESTIMATES FOR THE CITY'S
POPULATION AND WHICH -- MY
UNDERSTANDING REFLECTS A FAIRLY
SIZABLE BUMP FROM A TREND
PERSPECTIVE OVER THE LAST COUPLE
REPORTING YEARS AND ALSO MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT IS THAT IF
CURRENT TRENDS HOLD OVER THE
NEXT FEW YEARS WE ARE EXPECTED
TO EXCEED AND PASS THE CITY OF
SAN FRANCISCO IN OVERALL
POPULATION WHICH IS -- WHICH
WOULD BE A VERY AMAZING THING.
CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO I LIVE
THERE'S FOR LAW SCHOOL. A LOT
OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
IT'S -- IT'S A -- IT'S THE
MOST -- AFTER THE CITY OF NEW
YORK IT'S THE SECOND DENSEST
CITY IN AMERICA. IT'S A 7 BY 7
-- LIKE 49 SQUARE MILES ON THE
PENINSULA. THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE
TO GROW OUT SO IT'S VERY DENSE.
WE HERE IN SEATTLE ARE THE LAND
MASS IS ALMOST DOUBLE. LIKE 84
SQUARE MILES, SOMETHING ALONG
THOSE LINES. YOU KNOW THROUGH
HB1110 COMPLIANCE LEGISLATION
AND OUR OWN COMP PLAN PROCESS WE
ARE GOING THROUGH WE WILL GET
MORE DENSE. OUR POPULATION WILL
AGAIN IF CURRENT TRENDS HOLD,
POLICY TRENDS HOLD WE WILL
LIKELY EXCEED THE CITY OF CITY
WHICH WOULD BE REMARKABLE. ALL
RIGHT. MOST OF MY OTHER
QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. IN THE
INTEREST OF TIME AND I KNOW HOW
TO GET AHOLD OF YOU. SO, BEFORE
WE CLOSE OUT LET ME JUST ASK --
WE -- WE UNDERSTAND AND I THINK
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS SET UP IN
A GOODMANNER, GOOD WAY THAT
THERE IS A TIGHT INTEGRATION
BETWEEN GROWTH MANAGEMENT, LAND
USE POLICY, AND TRANSPORTATION
POLICY. TIGHTLY INTEGRATED
THERE. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT SOME
OF THE RECENT WORK TO LAND A
HOUSING RESEARCH CENTER AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND I
THINK THE EXECUTIVE BOARD MAINLY
HAS BEEN DRIVING ON THAT BUT
ALSO THE -- ONE OF THE OTHER
BOARDS THAT I SIT ON. THAT'S
PRETTY COOL, PRETTY EXCITING.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING IT UP. I HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED WITH OUR AGENCY AS BOTH
AS A BOARD MEMBER AND EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR THIS IS MY 19th YEAR.
IF I GO BACK TO WHEN I STARTED
THERE WAS A PERSPECTIVE THAT
HOUSING WAS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT
ISSUE THAT'S HANDED
JURISDICTION BY JURISDICTION AND
THERE WAS STRONG DIRECTION BACK
THEN FOR PSRC NOT TO REALLY BE
INVOLVED REGIONALLY. WE HAVE
SEEN BECAUSE A COMPLETE 180. OUR
BOARD IS FOCUSED ON WAY THAT
THROUGH THE REGIONAL PLANNING
WORK THAT WE CAN SUPPORT
COLLECTIVE EFFORTS TO, YOU KNOW
TO CONFRONT THIS HOUSING
CHALLENGE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE
HAVE DONE IS PROVIDE DATA AND
ANALYSIS TO THE LEGISLATURE. ITS
BEEN REFERENCED A FEW HOUSING
BILL THAT HAVE COME UP AND WE
HAVE HAD LEGISLATORS REACH OUT
TO US TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND AS IF
-- DRAFTED HOUSING LEGISLATION
WHAT WOULD IT MEAN FOR THE
REGION? WELL, WE HAVE TRIED TO
BE RESPONSIVE BUT WHAT WE FOUND
ALONG THE WAY IS NUMBER ONE OUR
DATA AND ANALYSIS IS ONLY FOR
KING, PEARCE AND KITSAP. WE
COULDN'T PROVIDE ANY DATA FOR
-- WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE IN
THE TRI CITIES OR SPOKANE OR
BELLINGHAM THE SECOND IS WE
REALIZE IT WAS DIFFICULT TO BE
RESPONSIVE IN A SHORT TIMELINE
TO THE NEEDS OF LEGISLATORS WHO
HAVE A BILL AND THEN NEXT WEEK
THERE'S A COMMITTEE HEARING. WE
AREN'T ORGANIZED OR STRUCTURED
TO RESPOND QUITE THAT QUICKLY.
ARE THERE BETTER MODELS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE SAW WAS THAT IN A
NUMBER OF STATES THERE ARE
HOUSING RESEARCH CENTERS. TWO
GOOD EXAMPLES WOULD BE THE
CENTER AT BERKELEY WHICH IS A
DECADE OLD IT'S ACTUALLY
RELATIVELY NEW IN THE CASE OF
THE MANY OF THE CENTERS OR THE
ONE AT NYU THAT DO REALLY GREAT
WORK TO PROVIDE HOUSING
ANALYSIS, RESEARCH AND DATA TO
INFORM THE PUBLIC ON BOTH WHAT
TRENDS ARE AND WHERE THERE COULD
BE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS
HOUSING. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
WITH PARTNERS. WE REACHED OUT TO
THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON.
THEY LOVE THE IDEA OF HOSTING
THE CENTER AT UDOV. WE HAD A
MEETING LAST YEAR BRINGING
TOGETHER MANY PARTIES AND
PARTIES TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE.
GET INPUT AND INSIGHTS. WE HAD A
LEGISLATIVE REQUEST FOR A MODEST
AMOUNT OF FUNDING WHICH WAS THE
MOST CHALLENGING HERE TO GET
FUNDING FOR SOMETHING NEW IN
OLYMPIA. WE CAME UP A LITTLE
SHORT IN SECURING DIRECT FUNDING
BUT THE LEADERSHIP IS OFF TO THE
RACES TO ESTABLISH THE CENTER.
IT SHOULD BE KNOWN AS THE
HOUSING FUTURE CENTER AT UDOV.
IT'LL BE AT THE COLLEGE OF
BUILDING ENVIRONMENTS WITH
STRONG COLLABORATION WITH THE
SCHOOL OF PUBLIC POLICY. WE ARE
OFF RAISING MONEY AND DEVELOPING
PARTNERSHIPS TO MAKE THIS CENTER
A REALITY. MORE TO COME ON IT. I
THINK ALONG WITH REALLY GREAT
RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS AND DATE
DATA. IT'S ALSO FOCUSED ON --
HOUSING LEADER ITSELF THEY WORK
IN THE NONPROFIT SPACE OR IN
GOVERNMENT OR IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN
REAL ESTATE AND HAVING THAT
HOUSING FOCUS IS BRINGS ONLINE A
LOT OF DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS.
GOOD WORK TO TESTIMONY AND I
HOPE IF I'M HERE GIVING YOU A
PRESENTATION IN A YEAR WE WILL
HAVE BETTER UPDATES ON THE
LAUNCH OF THIS CENTER.
>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU MR.
BROWN. APPRECIATE IT. IT'S A --
IT'S A -- WORLD CLASS LEADING
UNIVERSITY IN THE UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON. I THINK IT MAKES A
LOT OF SENSE TO HOUSE A WORLD
CLASS LEADING HOUSING CENTER
THERE. MORE TO COME. IN ANY
EVENT. UNLESS ANY FELLOW
COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY FINAL
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS WANT TO
THANK YOU AGAIN MR. BROWN FOR
YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY, YOUR
CONTINUED COLLABORATION, LOVE
THE PARTNERSHIP ON THE REGIONAL
LEVEL AND MORE TO COME. THANK
YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> AWESOME. WE WILL NOW MOVE
ONTO OUR SECOND ITEM OF
BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM TWO.
COUNCILMEMBER 121026. AN
ORDINANCE VACATING THE ALLEY IN
BLOCK 14 TO THE NORTH RANIER AND
ACCEPTING A PROPERTY USE
ANDDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE
PETITION OF GRAND STREET COMMONS
LLC, GRAND STREET COMMONS
NBHLLL, APPROXIMATE, CLERK FILED
314459.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND
LOOKS LIKE OUR PRESENTERS HAVE
JOINED US AT THE TABLE. ONCE
READY PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF
AND BEGIN YOUR PRESENTATION AND
COLLEAGUES, YOU WILL RECALL THAT
THIS IS A SECOND TIME BEING
BEFORE COMMITTEE FOR THIS
PRESENTATION. WE WOULD LOVE FOR
THE PRESENTERS TO GIVE US A
QUICK REFRESHER OF THIS SUBJECT
MATTER BUT IN ANY EVENT. PLEASE
GO HEAD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
>> BEVERLY BARNETT SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
>> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE --
AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD GRANT
THE FINAL APPROVAL TO GRAND
STREET COMMONS FOR AN ALLEY
VACATION. IT WAS FIRST APPROVED
A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. PROJECT
HAS BEEN BUILT. THEY HAVE MET
ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THE
COUNCIL PLACED ON THE VACATION
AND THEY ARE READY TO CLOSE OUT
THE PROJECT. VERY BRIEFLY, THE
ALLEY TO BE VACATED IS BETWEEN
RANIER AVENUE SOUTH AND 23rd
AVENUE SOUTH JUST SOUTH OF GRAND
STREET. IF FACILITATED THE
DEVELOPMENT OF A LOW INCOME
HOUSING PROJECT WITH 206
RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS PART OF A
THREE BLOCK PROJECT THAT IN
TOTAL INCLUDES 775 UNITS WITH
ALMOST HALF OF THEM AFFORDABLE.
IT INCLUDES A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT PUBLIC BENEFITS.
>> GOOD MORNING. EVERY STREET
AND ALLEY VACATION IS REQUIRED
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC BENEFITS THE
COUNCIL STREET VACATION POLICIES
OUTLINE THE KIND OF THING THE
COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND
IT'S TO BE A BALE BETWEEN WHAT
THE PUBLIC ACHIEVES AND WHAT THE
DEVELOPMENT ACHIEVES. WE LOOK AT
THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT AFTER
THE VACATION AND HOW MUCH THE
VACATION CONTRIBUTES TO THE
DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THE
SITE. SO WITH THIS PUBLIC
BENEFIT THIS CHART WE WENT OVER
IS REALLY CLEAR. THE COUNCIL
ALWAYS LOOKS AT THE PHYSICAL
ENVIRONMENT AND WE LOOK AT
ACHIEVING PUBLIC SPACE THAT
SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE
GENERAL PUBLIC, NOT JUST THE
TENANTS OR RESIDENTS OF THE
DEVELOPMENT AND THIS INCLUDED
GREAT PUBLIC SPACES. THE RIGHT
OF WAY WAS IMPROVED WITH THINGS
LIKE BENCHES AND ART. FOUNTAIN,
THE DEVELOPER WORKED ON A
COMMUNITY BASED ART PROGRAM THAT
THE ART PANELS REFLECT THE
HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY
ALSO I THINK ANOTHER UNUSUAL
ELEMENT IS THE CULTURAL SPACE
AGENCY PARTNERSHIP SO WITH IN
THE BUILDING THERE IS A SPACE
PROVIDED FOR ART SHOWINGS,
COMMUNITY FOCUSED EVENTS,
COMMUNITY BASED ACTIVITIES AND I
THINK THOSE ARE UNUSUAL. I THINK
THE BALANCE ON THIS PUBLIC
BENEFIT IS VERY MUCH ON THE
PUBLIC SIDE I THINK EVERYTHING
THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED IS
ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, REALLY
IS VERY WARM AND INVITING AND
IT'S AN AREA WHERE THERE IS A
LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IT IS CLOSE
TO LIGHT-RAIL AND SIGNIFICANT
TRANSIT AND THE SPACES I THINK
ARE REALLY WELCOMING. SO,
OVERALL OUR TASK HERE IS TO
ENSURE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS
COMPLIED AND PROVIDED EVERYTHING
AND I THINK IN MANY WAYS THEY
KIND OF WENT THE EXTRA MILE IN
MAKING THE PUBLIC BENEFIT REALLY
APPEAR TO BE COMMUNITY BASED AND
FUNCTIONS AS COMMUNITY. WE THINK
EVERYTHING IS DONE. IT'S READY
TO GO AND I THINK OVERALL IT'S
A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF REAL
PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY
HOUSING, THE SUPPORT OF THE
GRANTING THE VACATION AND THE
WORK WITH US ON PUBLIC BENEFIT
AND ART PROGRAMS AND THE DESIGN
COMMISSION WAS VERY ENGAGED WITH
THEM THROUGH ALL OF THIS. IT'S
A GOOD MIX OF EVERYTHING I
THINK.
>> ADOPTION OF COUNCIL BILL
121026 121026 WOULD MOVE THE
OWNERSHIP TO MOUNT BAKER HOUSING
WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THE
BUILDING ON THE BLOCK AND WOULD
PROVE A PROPERTY USE AND
DEVELOPMENT THAT ENSURING THE
LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF THE
PLAZA AND OTHER LONG TERM AREAS.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WILL
FIRST SEE IF ANY OF MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. ON THIS ITEM.
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR. BEVERLY,
ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU. YOU
HAVE LITERALLY BEEN DOING
EVERYTHING FOR THE LAST TWO
WEEKS, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING
YOUR WORK ON EVERYTHING UNDER
THE SUN. CHAIR, I FEEL VERY COM
COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PROJECT. I
THINK IT'S DONE GREAT THINGS. I
JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU FOR ALL
OF YOUR WORK.
>> THANK YOU. I TO KNOW HIS WORK
AND ITS BEEN MORE THAN TWO
WEEKS. THIS PROCESS FOR COMP
PLAN AND TRANSPORTATION. I KNOW
YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE FINAL
STRETCH EFFORT IN THE LAST
COUPLE WEEKS. YEAH. APPRECIATE
THE EFFORTS OF THE CENTRAL
STAFF. AWFUL THE CENTRAL STAFF
INCLUDING CAL FOR THE NEXT FEW
AGENDA ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. HEARING
AND SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS, I MOVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BEG 121026. IS THERE A
SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OFCOUNCIL BILL
121026. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER
COMMENTS? HEARING AND SEEING
NONE ON THE SCREEN NOPE. OKAY.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO
PASS BILL 121026?
>> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> RINK.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> HOLLINGSWO RT H.
>> YES.
>> SAKA.
>> YES.
>> THERE ARE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR
AND ZERO OPPOSED.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS BIG
MILESTONE AND THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL
PASS COUNCIL BILL 121026 WILL BE
SENT TO THE AUGUST 12th, 2025
CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE WILL NOW MOVE ONTO AGENDA
ITEM NUMBERS 3 THROUGH 8 OF
BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
READ ITEMS 3 THROUGH 8.
>>> AGENDA ITEM 3, 121016 AND
ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE
NORTHEAST 130th STREET AND
NORTHEAST 125th SAFETY PROJECT.
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF THE
EATL DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION TO REQUIRE,
ACCEPT AND RECORD A DEED FOR
STREET PURPOSES, SET IN TRACK
60, COUNTRY HOME PLATT DIVISION
1. AGENDA ITEM 4, COUNCIL BILL
121017, ORDINANCE ACCEPTING
VARIOUS DEEDS FOR ALLEY OR
STREET PURPOSES LAYING OFF
OPENING, WIDENING, EXTENDING AND
ESTABLISHING PORTIONS OF RIGHT
OF WAYS, PLACING THE REAL
PROPERTY CONVEYED BY SAID DEED
UP THE JURISDICTION OF THE SEE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION, COUNCIL BILL
121, ACCEPTING 25 LIMIT PURPOSE
EASEMENTS, ALLEY TURN AROUND AND
SIGNAL POLE PURPOSES, PLACING
THE REAL PROPERTY CONVEYED UNDER
THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION. AGENDA ITEM 6,
121019, ACCEPTING DEEDS FOR
STREET OR ALLEY PURPOSES LAYING
OFF OPENING, WIDENING, AND
ESTABLISHING PORTIONS OF RIGHT
OF WAY, PLACING THE REAL
PROPERTY CONVEYED UNDER THE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND
CONFIRMING CERTAIN PRIOR ACTS.
ITEM 7, COUNCIL BILL 121020,
ORDINANCE ACCEPTING 25 LIMITED
PURPOSE EASEMENTS FOR PUBLIC
SIDEWALK, ALLEY TURN AROUND AND
SIGNAL POLE PURPOSES, PLACING
THE REAL PROPERTY CONVEYED UNDER
THE JURISDICTION OF
THEDEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION.
AGENDA ITEM 8, COUNCIL BIG
121021, ORDINANCE ACCEPTING
VARIOUS DEEDS FOR STREET OR
ALLEY PURPOSES, LAYING OFF
OPENING, WIDENING, EXTENDING AND
ESTABLISHING PORTIONS OF RIGHT
OF WAY, PLACING THE REAL
PROPERTY CONVEYED BY SAID DEEDS
UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
>> ALL RIGHT. WELL. LET ME POUR
SOME WATER FOR THE COMMITTEE
CLERK. MAY BE OUT OF BREATH
AFTER THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU FOR BEARING WITH US. THANK
YOU PRESENTERSOR JOINING US AT
PRESENTEERS.
>> THANK YOU.
SORRY.
I WILL TALK ABOUT THE BIG
PACKAGE OF PROPERTY LEGISLATION
IN TWO GROUPS. THE FIRST GROUP
IS COUNCIL BILLS 12107 THROUGH
121021. THESE ARE FIVE PACKAGES
OF DEDICATION ORDINANCES. THE
BACKGROUND IS THAT UNDER THE
CITY CHARTER, WELL -- FIRST
PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT OFTEN IS
REQUIRED UNDER THE LAND USE CODE
TO SET ASIDE PROPERTY TO THE
CITY FOR PURPOSES OF SIDEWALKS,
STREETS, OR ALLEYS.
THEN THE CHARTER GRANTS THE CITY
COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE RIGHT OF
WAY DECISIONS EXECUTED BY THE
CITY.
THE TRANSACTIONS PRIVATE
DEVELOPMENT ARE -- APART FROM
THE PROPERTY OWNERS BY SDOT AND
THEN THEY CREATE AND PROPOSE A
COUNCIL BILL TO ACCEPT THE DEEDS
AND EASEMENTS AS REQUIRED UNDER
ARTICLE 4, SECTION 14 OF THE
CITY CHARTER WHICH AS YOU KNOW
IS THE PART OF THE CHARTER THAT
DEFINES THE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR
THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE
SUBSECTION ADDRESSES ORDINANCES
RELATED TO PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS
AND RIGHT OF WAY DECISIONS.
>> JUST TO UNDER SCORE THAT.
THIS IS VERY MUCH MINISTERIAL
LEGISLATION. SO THESE ARE
SLIVERS OF PROPERTY TIED TO
REGULAR DEVELOPMENT, PRIVATE
DEVELOPMENT. ABOUT 125 SEPARATE
PARCELS ARE AFFECTED HERE. THE
DEEDS HAVE BEEN RECORDED SO THIS
IS THE FORMAL COUNCIL ACTION TO
ACCEPT THE PROPERTIES.
>> AND AS COUNCIL NOTES WE
PACKAGED THE BILLS IN TO 25
PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS PER BILL.
THAT'S FOR SAKE OF EFFICIENCY.
SOMETIMES IT TAKES A YEAR OR TWO
TO BUILD UP THAT MANY PROPERTY
TRANSACTIONS BUT WE TRY TO
PACKAGE THEM TOGETHER TO SAVE
COUNCIL TIME SO YOU AREN'T GOING
THROUGH 125 BILLS RATHER THAN
FIVE BILLS THAT THE CLERK HAS TO
READ THROUGH. ONCE COUNCIL
APPROVES THE ORDINANCES IN
EFFECT -- WE CAN UPDATE THE
CITY'S GIS LAYERS ENSURING
CORRECT PROPERTY DECISIONS AND
RIGHT OF WAY BOUNDARY THAT ARE
IMPORTANT FOR BOTH PRIVATE
PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS AND CITY
PERMITTING SYSTEMS. THE 6th BILL
IS DIFFERENT. IT'S ACTUALLY
RELATED TO AN ACQUISITION OF
PROPERTY FOR A SPECIFIC CAPITOL
PROJECT. THIS IS 125th SAFETY
PROJECT THAT WE WILL TALK MORE
ABOUT IN A SECOND. THIS INVOLVES
INSTEAD OF 25 BILLS OR 25
TRANSACTIONS PER BILL THIS IS
ONE TRANSACTION AND IT'S A VERY
SMALL SLIVER OF 70 SQUARE FEET
BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CITY
NEEDS TO LAY OFF AS RIGHT OF WAY
AND THEN RECORD THE DECIDE DEED
AS SUCH. I WILL HAND IT OVER TO
DENNY TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU.
THE PROJECT IS IMPROVING
NORTHEAST 130th AND NORTHEAST
125th CORRIDOR INTO A MULTIMODAL
CONNECTION AT 130th STREET. WE
ARE APPROACHING CONSTRUCTION AND
ARE EXPECTED TO OPEN -- SORRY.
THE PROJECT AREA IS ON NORTHEAST
130th AT FIRST AVENUE GOING TO
5th AVENUE AND THEN WE TRAVEL
DOWN ROOSEVELT WAY NORTHEAST
FROM 130th TO 10th AVENUE AND
THEN WE GET ONTO 125th TRAVELING
DOWN TO LAKE CITY WAY. FOR THE
PROPERTY ACQUISITION DETAILS ON
THE AERIAL VIEW ON THE RIGHT AND
THE YELLOW BOX THE RED TRINGLE
IS THE 72 SQUARE FEET OF
ACQUISITION THAT THE PROJECT IS
OBTAINING FOR THE PROJECT. THE
CITY PAID $6,500 FOR THIS
PROPERTY. SOME OF THE PROJECT
ELEMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT
SPECIFICALLY TO THE ACQUISITION
IS A SHARED USE PATH THAT IS A
NEW STREET DESIGN FOR 130th THAT
WILL HELP BUILD A CONNECTION FOR
THE SOUND TRANSIT TO THE SOUND
TRANSIT LIGHT-RAIL. THERE ARE
ALSO IMPROVED CROSSINGS, NEW
STREET DESIGNS ON 125th, TRAFFIC
CALMING ELEMENTS, CURB PROTECTED
BIKE LANES, UPGRADED AND NEW BUS
STOPS AND A ROUND ABOUT AT 125th
AND ROOSEVELT WAY. I MENTIONED
THE SHARED USE PATH ALREADY.
>> AND JUST TO BE CLEAR THE
TRANSACTION IS ONLY FOR THAT RED
TRIANGLE THAT'S 72 SQUARE FEET.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. FAA THE
CENTRAL STAFF PERSPECTIVE CAN
YOU REPEAT THE POLICY
IMPLICATIONS ANY FOR US TO
CONSIDER HERE.
>> FOR THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT
PARCELS THERE IS NO POLICY
CHOICE. IT IS JUST THE OUTCOME
OF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. IT'S A
MUCH LARGER PROJECT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT A SMALL BACK UP
SIDEWALK ACQUISITION TO HELP
MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS
CORNER INTERSECTION. IT MAY --
IF THE COUNCIL DID NOT APPROVE
THIS -- DID NOT ACCEPT THIS
ACQUISITION IT MAY MEAN SOME
REDESIGN OF THE PROJECT BUT
IT'S NOT REALLY DRIVING ANY
POLICY CHOICES FOR THE PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YEAH.
THIS IS ABOUT AS ROUTINE
BUSINESS THAT COMES BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY
COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AS
POSSIBLE. THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR
HAVING THIS GO TO FULL COUNCIL
AND ALSO THROUGH COMMITTEE. IT
IS VERY IMPORTANT WORK. SO, BY
CHARTER WE ARE REQUIRED TO GO
THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO HERE WE
ARE. ALL RIGHT. COLLEAGUES, ANY
FINAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? LOOKS
LIKE COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. GO
HEAD. FLOOR IS YOURS.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU
ON YOUR PRESENTATION. I
APPRECIATE IT. OBVIOUSLY AS
CHAIR NOTED THIS IS -- WE ARE
MOVING FORWARD AND IT'S GOOD TO
SEE THE DIFFERENT PIECES. ONE OF
THE SLIDES THE BULLET NOTED
THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REGARDING --
THE -- THE REASONS WHY IN THE
MORE GENERAL SENSE IT WAS LIKE
PROBABLY THE THIRD OR 4th --
THERE IT IS. STOP THERE. THANK
YOU. THESE PROPERTY DEADATIONS
DEDICATIONS ARE USED TO WIDEN
THE STREET. YOU CAN ASK MORE
GENERAL QUESTIONS? THIS IS ONE
THING I HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON. I
WANT TO ENSURE THAT FIRE
ENGINES, LADDER TRUCKS CAN MAKE
IT THROUGH ALLEYS. THIS COMES UP
WITH IN THE PLAN CONTEXT. I HAVE
BEEN HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS
REGARDING ALLEYS AND I HAVEN'T
MADE ANY AMENDMENTS RELATED TO
ALLEYS LIKE BACKYARD SET BACKS
BECAUSE BASED ON CONVERSATIONS
WITH SPU AND OTHERS IT DIDN'T
SEEM LIKE A NEED TO DO THAT. I
WAS JUST CURIOUS IN A GENERAL
SENSE WHAT SDTT IS SDOT IS
LOOKING FOR WHEN IT LOOKS TO
WIDEN A STREET OR ALLEY. YOU CAN
SPEAK TO LIKE WHAT ARE YOU
LOOKING TO DO, BIG PICTURE OR IS
IT LIKE INDIVIDUAL SPOT THINGS
OR IS THERE A GRANDER STRATEGY
IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW A BROADER
IMPROVEMENT OF ALLEYS TO ASSIST
IN LOGISTICS. SPU COLLECTS
PUBLIC SAFETY ACCESS, I WAS JUST
CURIOUS. THANK YOU.
>> IT'S DRIVEN MORE THAN
ANYTHING ELSE BY THE LAND USE
CODE. SO IT'S REALLY THE
DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR
THAT PARTICULAR PRIVATE
DEVELOPMENT. IF, YOU KNOW
THERE'S -- MAJOR REPLATTING
LIKE I THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE
HOPE 6 PROJECTS WHERE THE OLDER
STREETS WERE COMPLETELY
RECONFIGURED IN TO NEWER STREETS
AND ALLEYS WERE CREATED WHERE
THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE
PAST. THAT WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY
THE MOPP OR -- OR THE UNDERLYING
LAND USE REQUIREMENTS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER I THINK
THERE'S -- YOU KNOW A LOT OF
CASES THESE ARE SMALLER
DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE REALLY, YOU
KNOW, DEALT WITH THROUGH THE
PERMITTING PROCESS, THROUGH
STREET IMPROVEMENT PLAN, REVIEW
AND SO A LOT OF TIMES IT DOES BE
-- IT'S -- IT FALLS ON THE
PLANNER TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND
THE CODE FOR WHAT THIS --
WHATEVER THE DEVELOPMENT
PROPOSAL IS TO FIT WITH THE
EXISTING SITUATION. OTHER AREAS
WE ARE TALKING AT MAJOR
RENOVATIONS, LARGER MASTER
PROJECT PIECES THAT WOULD COME
THROUGH SEPARATE LEGISLATION.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE
ARE I ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE BUT
WE DO COME ACROSS IT IF WE ARE
DOING A -- THERE'S A
CONSIDERATION FOR LARGE
DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHERE YOU
WOULD SEE SORT OF MAJOR ALLEY
WAY OR MAJOR RIGHT OF WAY POLICY
IMPLEMENTATION.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY FOR
NOT GIVING YOU A SHOUT OUT WHEN
I CALLED OUT THE OTHER NAMES.
APOLOGIZE. YEAH. I APPRECIATE
IT. IT'S INTERESTING, YOU KNOW
GIVEN THAT A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE
DOING ALLEY VACATIONS BUT I'M
ONE WHO IS IN SUPPORT OF
STRENGTHENING GENERALLY ALLEYS
AND THEIR ABILITY TO HELP SERVE
OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE IF WE
KEEP PUSHING THINGS ON TO THE
STREET WHICH WE ALREADY SEE
IT'S GOING TO GRIDLOCK OUR
STREETS AND GRIDLOCK OUR, OUR
CITY. THEN WE ARE -- YOU KNOW
THE IDEA OF THE 15 MINUTE CITY
BECOMES A 35 MINUTE CITY. THANK
YOU. APPRECIATE THE FOLLOW UP.
>> AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. WELL,
THANK YOU. I WILL TAKE A QUICK
CHECK HERE. SEE IF ANY OF MY
OTHER COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY FINAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HEARING
AND SEEING NONE, I WANT TO
EXPLAIN A FEW THINGS FIRST. THE
STRUCTURE OF THIS ANTICIPATED
VOTE. WE WILL LIKELY VOTE ON
THESE BILLS IN TWO PACKAGES IF
YOU WILL. THE FIRST ITEM OR
EXCUSE ME THE ITEM NUMBER 3
FIRST FOLLOWED BY 4 THROUGH 8.
COLLEAGUES BECAUSE THIS
PARTICULAR DEED WAS CITED AS
ACTION FROM THE PROPROPERTY
LEGISLATION THAT WE HEARD THIS
MORNING WE WILL BE VOTING ON
THIS PIECE SEPARATELY SO, AGAIN,
ITEMS 3 THROUGH 8 WERE ALREADY
READ IN TO THE RECORD AT ONE
TIME. SO WE WILL NOW MOVE AND
VOTE ON ITEM 3 FIRST. I MOVE
THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND
PASSAGE OF COUNCIL BILL 121016.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND PASSAGE. 121016. ARE
THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
HEARING AND SEEING NONE WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
RECOMMENDED -- ON THE
RECOMMENDATION TO PASS COUNCIL
BILL 121616?
>> KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> RINK.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> VICE CHAIR.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> THERE ARE FIVE IN FAVOR AND
ZERO OPPOSED.
>> ALL RIGHT. THE RECOMMENDATION
THAT'S COUNCIL PASS 121016 WILL
BE SENT TO THE AUGUST 12th, 2025
CITY COUNCIL MEETING. DO ANY OF
MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY
FINAL QUESTIONS ON BILLS 121017
THROUGH 121021? HEARING SEEING
NONE ON THESE BILLS I AM
PROPOSING THAT ITEMS 4 THROUGH 8
BE VOTED ON TOGETHER WITH ONE
VOTE. A MEMBER MAY CHOOSE TO
REMOVE AN ITEM TO VOTE ON IT
SEPARATELY. WOULD ANY COMMITTEE
MEMBER LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM
FOR A SEPARATE VOTE? HEARINGAND
SEEING NO MOTIONS TO DO SUCH SO
HEARING NO ITEMS REMOVED WE WILL
PROCEED WITH VOTING ON ITEMS 4
THROUGH 8. I MOVE THAT THE
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BILLS 121017 THROUGH
121021. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IS IT MOVED AND SECKED TO
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF 121017
THROUGH 121021. ARE THERE ANY
FINAL COMMENTS? HEARING AND
SEEING NONE, WE WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE
RECOMMENDATION TO PASS COUNCIL
BILLS 121017 THROUGH 121021?
>> KETTLE.
>> AYE.
>> RINK.
>> YES.
>> STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> VICE CHAIR.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR SAKA.
>> AYE.
>> THERE ARE FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR
AND ZERO OPPOSED.
>> ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION
CARRIES. THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL
PASS COUNCIL BILLS 121017 WILL
BE SENT TO THE AUGUST 12th CITY
COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAVE REACHED
THE END OF TODAY'S MEETING
AGENDA. OUR NEXT COMMITTEE
MEETING WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 2nd
AT 9:30 A.M. IS THERE ANY FINAL
BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE BEFORE WE ADJOURN
TODAY? HEARING SEEING NONE, NO
FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE
THE COMMITTEE. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
IT IS 10:59 A.M.