>> GOOD MORNING, THE HUMAN
SERVICES, LABOR AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT EATING OF THE
SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL WILL COME
TO ORDER. IT IS 9:32 A.M. MARCH
6th, 2026. I AM CHAIR ALEXIS
MERCEDES RINCK. WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE?
>> VICE CHAIR FOSTER.
COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH.
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. THERE ARE
FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU. I MOVED TO APPROVE
THE AGENDA. IF THERE IS NO
OBJECTION THE AGENDA WILL BE
ADOPTED. HEARING NO OBJECTION
THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. HELLO AND
WELCOME EVERYONE. HAPPY FRIDAY.
WE HAVE THREE AGENDA ITEMS FOR
US TODAY. THE FIRST IS A
BRIEFING FROM THE SEATTLE FILM
COMMISSION ON THEIR BODY OF WORK
FOLLOWED BY A VOTE ON
APPOINTMENT TO THE FILM
COMMISSION AND THEN WE WILL BE
CLOSING WITH A BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION FROM THE KING COUNTY
REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY
ON CONTINUUM OF CARE WHICH MY
OFFICE HAS BEEN TRACKING CLOSELY
OVER THE PAST YEAR. SO FOR THE
PUBLIC ALONGSIDE THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, MY OFFICE HAS BEEN
CONDUCTING MONTHLY STAKEHOLDER
MEETINGS ON THIS TOPIC SINCE
LAST YEAR. AND I FELT IT WAS
IMPORTANT TO BRING SOME OF THE
DISCUSSION TO THE PUBLIC AS OUR
REGION GRAPPLES WITH HOW TO
NAVIGATE MAJOR POLICY CHANGES BY
THE DEPARTMENT OF U.S. HOUSING
AND DEVELOPMENT. WE WILL NOW
OPEN THE HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD. PUBLIC COMMENTS SHOULD
RELATE TO THE ITEMS ON THE
AGENDA OR WITHIN PURVIEW OF THE
COMMITTEE. HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO
WE HAVE?
>> CURRENTLY WE HAVE ZERO IN
PERSON AND VIA REMOTE SIGNED UP.
>> I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A
FIRST. GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
>> THERE IS A REMOTE SPEAKER
ONLINE.
>> ARE WE SEEING A REMOTE
SPEAKER?
>> MY MISTAKE.
>> WILLIAM.
>> GREAT. IF YOU CAN PLEASE
PRESS STAR SIX AND YOU HEAR THE
PROMPT. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE
GIVEN TWO MINUTES AND WILL BE
JUST GOING TO THAT REMOTE
SPEAKER. IF THAT REMOTE SPEAKER
COULD PRESS STAR SIX WHEN YOU
HEAR THE PROMPT YOU HAVE BEEN
UNMUTED. IF YOU ARE SPEAKING WE
CAN'T HEAR YOU. TRY AGAIN. STAR
SIX.
>> THE CALLER APPEARS NOT TO BE
THERE. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> NOT A PROBLEM. THANK YOU ALL.
WITH THAT, THERE ARE NO
ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS AND WE WILL
BE MOVING ONTO ITEMS OF
BUSINESS. AND MOVING ONTO OUR
FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS, WILL THE
CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM ONE INTO
THE RECORD?
>> ITEM ONE, SEATTLE FILM
COMMISSION OVERVIEW BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION, APPOINTMENT FOLLOWED
BY ITEM TWO APPOINTMENT 3452
APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL GAST ON
AS A MEMBER OF THE SEATTLE FILM
COMMISSION FOR A FIRM TERM UNTIL
APRIL 20 2028.
>> I WILL INVITE OUR PRESENTERS
TO THE TABLE TO GET SETTLED IN.
COLLEAGUES, THE CLERK READ ITEMS
ONE AND TWO IN THE RECORDS AWAY
CAN DISCUSS AT ONE TIME. I WILL
MOVE THE APPOINTMENT AFTER WE
HAVE DISCUSSED THE OVERVIEW AND
APPOINTMENT TO THE SEATTLE FILM
COMMISSION. AS OUR PRESENTERS
COME TO THE TABLE FEEL FREE TO
GET SETTLED IN AND THEN
INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE
RECORD BY STATING YOUR FULL
NAME. AND YOUR ORGANIZATION.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
RINCK. HELLO COUNCILMEMBERS. MY
NAME IS CHRIS SWENSON, THE FILM
PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE SEATTLE
OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE
THIS CONVERSATION AND
PRESENTATION FROM COMMISSIONERS.
AND ALSO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF
INFORMATION ABOUT THE STRUCTURE
OF THE COMMISSION WHERE IT IS
AND ALL THE PRIORITIES RIGHT
NOW. THE SEATTLE FILM COMMISSION
IS A GROUP OF 11 VOLUNTEERS AND
DISTINCT POSITIONS WITHIN THE
FILM INDUSTRY. THEY THE
COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED IN
2023 AS THE BODY THAT ADVISES
THE CITY OF SEATTLE THROUGH THE
OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
ON THE WAYS TO EQUITABLY SUSTAIN
AND GROW FILM PRODUCTION JOBS
AND WORK HERE IN SEATTLE. IT'S
INTENTIONALLY ADMINISTERED BY
THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE FOCUS IS
CREATION AND THE ARTS OF FILM IS
GOOD, WHAT THE COMMISSION
FOCUSES ON IS FILMMAKER ABILITY
TO DO THAT WORK AND MAKE A
LIVING IN SEATTLE AND LIVE IN
SEATTLE. IT'S ALL ABOUT
BRINGING THE WORK AND KEEPING
THE WORK HERE, WHATEVER THE
MEDIUM IS IN THE FILM INDUSTRY
AND COMMUNITY. THE 11 POSITIONS
ARE AS I MENTIONED EACH IN A
SPECIFIC DISCIPLINE WITHIN THE
FILM INDUSTRY. FIVE OF THE
POSITIONS ARE APPOINTED BY CITY
COUNCIL, FIVE ARE APPOINTED BY
THE MAYOR AND THEN THE 11th IS
APPOINTED BY THE COMMISSION
ITSELF. I HAVE THE GREAT HONOR
OF ADMINISTERING THE COMMISSION
AND MANY MONTHLY MEETINGS AND
CONVERSATIONS. CAN WE GO TO THE
NEXT SLIDE? I WOULD LOVE TO
INTRODUCE THE SEATTLE FILM
COMMISSION CHAIR KAT OGDEN WHO
WILL WALK THROUGH THE PRIORITIES
AND SOME OF THE CURRENT WORK
THEY ARE DOING AND THEN
INTRODUCE OUR INCOMING
COMMISSIONER.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS KAT OGDEN ,
THE CHAIR OF THE SEATTLE FILM
COMMISSION AND I ALSO SIT IN
EDITION SEVEN SO I REPRESENT
WORK ON FILM SETS, EVERYONE FROM
OUR CRAFT SERVICES DEPARTMENT
THAT BRINGS AROUND SNACKS TO
SUSTAIN US AND OUR LONG HOURS TO
FILM DIRECTORS AND IN SOME CASES
CREATIVE PRODUCERS ON SITE.
ELECTRICIANS, GRIP, ELECTRIC,
PEOPLE THAT DRIVE TRUCKS. THE
SEATTLE FILM COMMISSION HAS
THREE PRIORITY COMMITTEES. WE
HAVE THE WORKFORCE AND
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT
COMMITTEE, CHAIRED BY TOM WHO
REPRESENTS COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION
COMPANIES. AND THIS COMMITTEE
FOCUSES ON MODELING PARTNERSHIPS
THAT WILL GROW FILM AND BUSINESS
IN THE CITY SO THAT WILL INCLUDE
WORKING WITH TECHNOLOGY
COMPANIES, WHO OFTEN NEED
COMPLIANCE VIDEOS TO COMMERCIAL
THAT MIGHT SEE ANYWHERE FROM
YOUTUBE TO TELEVISION. WE HAVE
OUR PUBLIC POLICY COMMITTEE
WHICH IS CHAIRED BY MARK WHO
REPRESENTS FILM LOCATION
MANAGERS AND THIS COMMITTEE
ADVISES THE CITY OF SEATTLE ON
POLICIES AND INITIATIVES THAT
WILL TRAIN AND RETAIN FILM JOBS
IN THE CITY. FOUR EXAMPLE,
PARKING. ANYTHING THAT WILL MAKE
IT EASIER FOR FILMMAKERS TO WORK
HERE. MARKETING AND BRANDING IS
OUR THIRD COMMITTEE WHO
REPRESENTS POST-PRODUCTION AND
THIS IS TO PROMOTE OUR WORK AND
EXPLAIN WHAT WE ARE DOING SO
MEMBERS OF THE FILM COMMITTEE
CAN FIND US BUT ALSO TO PROMOTE
SEATTLE AS A PREMIER DESTINATION
THAT IS CENTERED IN GROWING
ACCESS FOR TRADITIONALLY
UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS. SO WE
HAVE SOME SELECT PRIORITIES THAT
WE FOCUS ON IN OUR FIRST FEW
YEARS. AND AMONG THEM WOULD BE
THE COMMERCIAL INITIATIVE. SO ON
THIS WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE
OED TO ADVISE REGARDING
COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION WOULD BE
AS I MENTIONED COMPLIANCE VIDEOS
OR COMMERCIALS AND WE KICK IT
OFF WITH A NETWORK EVENT ON
APRIL 2nd WHICH WILL RAISE
AWARENESS OF THE WORK THAT WE DO
HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND
CONNECT US MORE WITH PEOPLE THAT
ARE SEEKING THE KIND OF WORK WE
DO. WE ALSO HAVE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT SUPPORT FOR TRAFFIC
MANAGEMENT FOR FILM AND
PRODUCTION. THIS IS VERY
IMPORTANT TO FILMMAKERS. WERE
YOU NEED THE SEATTLE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST YOU WITH
TRAFFIC AND WE HAVE ADVISED
HIRING EQUITY FOR OFFICERS
NEEDED TO PERFORM TRAFFIC
CONTROL FOR FILM PRODUCTIONS.
THAT HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO
THE COMMISSION AND FOR PEOPLE
WHO WORK IN FILM. WE ALSO HOSTED
THE INSIDE SCOOP. THE NEXT EVENT
IS IN LATE MARCH. THIS IS
DESIGNED FOR SMALL DISCUSSIONS
THOUGH IT HAS EXPANDED TO LARGER
GROUPS AND IT IS LED BY SEATTLE
FILM COMMISSIONER SECTOR WHERE
WE OPEN THE DOOR TO PEOPLE WHO
ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING IN THE
FIELDS THAT MAYBE HAD NOT
CONSIDERED IT OR DON'T
UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN BE A
BLUE-COLLAR TRADE PROFESSION AND
THAT HAS BEEN A LOT OF FUN. AND
THEN WE FOCUS ON FILM POLICY.
TWO EXAMPLES OF THAT. SO THE
STATE WASHINGTON FILM WORKS
BRINGS IN WORK AND AS
COMMISSIONERS WE ARE FOCUSED ON
HOW CAN WE BRING IN MORE WORK
AND SPECIFICALLY BRING NETWORK
TO SEATTLE. WHERE WE LOVE TO
LIVE AND STAY AND WORK IN OUR
PROFESSIONS. WE ALSO HAVE
ADVISED AND DISCUSSED WASHINGTON
LEGISLATION RECENTLY INCREASED
TAX ON PRODUCTION ADVERTISING.
AND WE ARE IN DISCUSSION OF WHAT
THE CITY CAN DO SO THAT
PRODUCTION WORK IS NOT
DISCOURAGED HERE. WE WANT TO
MAINTAIN OUR WORK HERE, PEOPLE
LIVING IN SEATTLE, PEOPLE BUYING
HOMES, STAY IN SCHOOL HERE SO
THEY DON'T HAVE TO RELOCATE. SO
AS WE MENTIONED, THE SEATTLE
FILM COMMISSION HAS 11 POSITIONS
AND WE EACH REPRESENT A
DIFFERENT SECTOR, EXCUSE ME, OF
FILM COMMUNITY AND INDUSTRY. SO
WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT REPRESENTS
FREELANCE ACTORS AND AGENCIES.
WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT REPRESENTS
FILM INDUSTRY LABOR UNIONS, WE
HAVE MANY UNIONS ONSET AND THAT
CAN BE VERY MIXED. OTHERS WILL
BE NONUNION AND BOTH ARE
IMPORTANT. WE HAVE POSITIONED
NUMBER THREE WHICH IS
ADVERTISING AND CREATIVE
AGENCIES. WE HAVE COMMERCIAL
PRODUCTION OR PRODUCTION
COMPANIES, WE HAVE A POSITION
THAT REPRESENTS FILM SCHOOLS,
PROGRAMS, EDUCATORS, PEOPLE THAT
DO OUTREACH TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE
INTO THIS PROFESSION. WE HAVE A
SEAT THAT REPRESENTS
POST-PRODUCTION COMPANIES. I
REPRESENT FILM PRODUCTION GROUP.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOMEONE
THAT REPRESENTS FILM FESTIVALS
AND CONTENT COMPANIES. WE HAVE
FILM FESTIVALS AND FILM MARKETS
WHERE YOU SHOW YOUR FILM AND IT
WILL BE SOLD AND THAT WOULD HAVE
SHOWCASED THE BUTYL BEAUTIFUL
CITY OF SEATTLE. WE HAVE THE
FILM ORGANIZATIONS THAT BELONG
TO AND ADVOCATE FOR COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE UNDERREPRESENTED. AND
WE SEE THAT AS OUR STRENGTH
GOING FORWARD AND OURSELVES AS A
COMMUNITY AND PROFESSION. AND
THEN OUR LAST IS COMMERCIAL
TECHNOLOGY AND EMERGING
TECHNOLOGY BUSINESS. I KNOW I
COVERED A LOT VERY QUICKLY. I
WORK IN AN INDUSTRY WHERE I JUST
WANT TO INVITE ANY QUESTIONS.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK
ANYTHING.
>> BEFORE WE GET TO DISCUSSION
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
FILM COMMISSION OR THE FILM
INDUSTRY SINCE WE HAVE EXPERTS
AT THE TABLE? VICE CHAIR FOSTER.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU
FOR THE PRESENTATION. YOU
MENTIONED IN ONE OF YOUR SLIDES
AND YOU SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
BEING ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE THE
FILM INDUSTRY AND THE CHALLENGES
WITH TAXES AND ADVERTISING. I'M
WONDERING IF THERE STRATEGIES
THAT YOU ARE SEEING THAT HAVE
HELPED TO ENCOURAGE THE FILM
INDUSTRY HERE IN WASHINGTON
STATE OR STRATEGIES YOU'VE SEEN
OTHER STATES TAKE THAT WE MIGHT
WANT TO CONSIDER EITHER LOCALLY
OR STATE LEVEL.
>> THAT HAS BEEN A RATHER LARGE
DISCUSSION AND I WOULD SAY THAT
I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO CONSULT
WITH MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS
BEFORE I MADE A DEFINITIVE
STATEMENT BUT I WILL SAY ONE
THING THAT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY
HELPFUL THAT I THINK
STRENGTHENING THE RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE CITY AND DIFFERENT
ENTITIES WE DO NOT WANT TO BE
SILOED. WE ALSO ARE CONTINUALLY
DISCUSSING THE FACT THAT WE ARE
PART OF THE CREATIVE INDUSTRIES.
WHAT WE MAKE IS ART AND HOPE BUT
ALSO WHAT WE MAKE IS CONTENT.
AND SO REALLY RAISING THE
AWARENESS THAT THIS IS A VIABLE
PROFESSION AND A LOT OF THE
PEOPLE DO THIS FOR A LIVING.
THEY WILL WORK ON EVERYTHING
FROM A MUSIC VIDEO TO A
COMMERCIAL TO INDUSTRIAL AND ALL
COME TOGETHER AND COMMUNITY
SOURCE A FILM. SO WHAT WE HAVE
SEEN IS WHEN THAT PARTNERSHIP IS
VERY CLOSE WITH THE CITY AND THE
OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT WE
INCREASE OUR VISIBILITY THAT WE
ALSO INCREASE OUR NETWORK. WE
HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE SEATTLE MUSIC COMMISSION. I
WOULD SAY THEY HAVE PROVIDED
IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL
MENTORSHIP TO US. WE HAVE HAD
CONTINUED ACCESS TO THE OFFICE
OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE DO
HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT
THIS TAX ON THE COMMERCIAL TAX
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I
THINK ONCE WE HAVE MORE
INFORMATION FROM THE COMMISSION
WE WOULD BE BETTER ABLE TO
PRESENT AND WOULD LOVE TO
PRESENT THAT OR HAVE MEETINGS
REGARDING IT.
>> I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT
THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO
HELP SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY IN
PARTICULAR WHEN THE COMMISSION
IS READY TO DO THAT. I THINK
THAT'S GREAT. A DEAR FRIEND OF
MINE IS A FILM EDITOR AND
ANOTHER ONE WORKS IN, WHAT IS IT
CALLED. FOOD CONTENT AND LIKE
STAGING AND IT'S FASCINATING.
SO I APPRECIATE LEARNING MORE
ABOUT HOW WE CAN EXPLORE THE
INDUSTRY NEXT TIME YOU'RE AT
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD
TO THAT?
>> NO.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
LOOKING FORWARD TO REPRESENTING
THE FILM COMMISSION.
>> OKAY. I WOULD LOVE TO PRESENT
MICHAEL GASTON. WE ARE ALL
VOLUNTEERS ON THE FILM
COMMISSION AND HE HAS
VOLUNTEERED TO JOIN US AS A
COMMISSIONER. HE WOULD REPRESENT
EMERGING TECHNOLOGY, IMMERSIVE
TECHNOLOGY AND EMERGING
TECHNOLOGY BUSINESS.
>> HELLO. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL
MEMBERS. I AM HONORED TO BE THE
APPOINTEE FOR POSITION 11 OF THE
SEATTLE FILM COMMISSION AND I
WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR
NOMINATING ME AND ALSO THINK THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND COUNSEL FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. AS THE
FOUNDER OF A LOCAL INDEPENDENT
STUDIO AND PRESIDENT OF AN
INTERACTIVE PRODUCTION COMPANY
MY BACKGROUND HAS BEEN ROOTED IN
NEW MEDIA FOR I'M JUST GOING TO
SAY WELL OVER A DECADE, NO POINT
IN AGING MYSELF ON THE RECORD.
AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR
IMMERSIVE AND EMERGING
TECHNOLOGY I'VE SEEN HOW OUR
IMAGINATION FOR THE FILM
INDUSTRY HAS EXPANDED. SO THAT
WE CAN NO LONGER REALLY CONSIDER
OURSELVES A CITY OF JUST CAMERA
AND LIGHTS BUT ALSO ONE OF
REAL-TIME ENGINES, DIGITAL
BACKGROUNDS, INTERACTIVE
STORYTELLING AND I THINK THAT
SEATTLE HAS A UNIQUE HOME-COURT
ADVANTAGE WHERE OUR WORLD-CLASS
TECH SECTOR MEETS THIS DEEP
CINEMATIC HISTORY. AND THE
ABILITY TO HELP THIS INDUSTRY
EVOLVE SO THAT WAY PRODUCTIONS
REMAIN IN THE CITY AND
HIGH-PAYING REMAINS IN THE CITY
IS MY NUMBER ONE GOAL. I'M
EAGER TO GET STARTED AND I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME,
CONSIDERATION AND SUPPORT WITH
THE CREATIVE ECONOMY. HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING
HERE THIS MORNING AND FOR
STEPPING FORWARD TO FILM ON THE
SURFACE-- SERVE ON THE FILM
COMMISSION. DO WE HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPOINTEE
BEFORE US? VICE CHAIR FOSTER.
WELL, I WILL THEN TAKE A MOMENT
TO SAY FOR LOOKING AHEAD IT WAS
HELPFUL TO HAVE THE GROUNDING OF
SOME OF THE KEY PRIORITIES FOR
THE FILM COMMISSION. WHAT DO YOU
SEE AS UPCOMING OPPORTUNITIES
FACING THE FILM SECTOR?
>> I THINK THAT THE CREATOR
ECONOMY IS EXPLODING AND THERE
ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO
TAKE THESE ALTERNATIVE CREATIVE
ROLES AND FIND NEW INDUSTRIES
FOR THEM. EARLIER, ON OUR WAY
AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
VERTICAL EXCLUSION OF VERTICAL
DRAMAS AND KAT IS WORKING IN
THAT SPACE AND I'M WORKING ON A
NEW COMPANY IN THAT SPACE AND
FINDING A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
MOVING NOT JUST WITHIN THE
TRADITIONAL FILM ROLES BUT ARE
FINDING THEMSELVES CREATING
ENTIRELY NEW ROLES. WHERE THERE
IS NOT EVEN A VOCABULARY FOR IT.
SO FINDING SPACE AND FINDING
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM IS
WHAT I SEE.
>> YOU USED A TERM. VERTICAL.
WHAT IS THAT?
>> I COULD WAX POETIC ABOUT
VERTICAL DRAMAS FOR HOURS. WHAT
I WILL SAY IS THAT THERE'S BEEN
A RISE IN THE KIND OF BRIEF
INTERSTITIAL DRAMAS THAT EXIST
ON PLATFORMS LIKE TIKTOK AND
INSTAGRAM BUT THEN FIND THEIR
WAY INTO THEIR OWN APPLICATIONS
THAT PEOPLE CAN GO THROUGH ON
THEIR PHONES. AND WITH THESE ARE
ARE BASICALLY CLIFFHANGER
STORIES THAT ARE TOLD OVER THE
COURSE AND BREAKING UP BROKEN UP
OVER ONE TO THREE MINUTES.
STARRING NONTRADITIONAL ACTORS,
THEY ARE BEING FILMED
NONTRADITIONAL HE AND THEY HAVE
BECOME A SIGNIFICANT INDUSTRY IN
CHINA BUT ALSO GROWING HERE. IT
IS A $100 BILLION INDUSTRY RIGHT
NOW.
>> VERTICAL IS THE WAY YOU ARE
WATCHING IT. SO THIS IS
BROADCAST ON THE SEATTLE CHANNEL
WHICH IS HORIZONTAL. SO IT ADDS
THAT KIND OF IMMEDIACY. AND I
THINK THAT'S ALSO A GOOD
EXAMPLE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE
THAT THE INDUSTRY AND THE WAY
YOU MAKE THINGS IS INCOMPLETE
UPHEAVAL RIGHT NOW. BIG STUDIOS
ARE CONSIDERING NOT RELEASING
THE THEATERS BECAUSE IT'S JUST
NOT THE WAY PEOPLE WATCH THINGS
ANYMORE. SO WE REALLY RELY ON
THE SEATTLE FILM COMMISSION TO
ADVISE US ON HOW THE EVOLUTION
IS HAPPENING. WHAT THINGS TO
PRIORITIZE IN THE INDUSTRY AND
COMMUNITY AS WELL.
>> THAT DOVETAILS VERY WELL WITH
WHAT THE SEATTLE FILM COMMISSION
HAVE DONE BY FOCUSING ON THE
COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THE TRAINING
GROUND TO SHOOT VERTICAL CONTENT
WOULD BE HOW YOU WOULD INTERACT
ON A COMMERCIAL FILM SET. SO
SEATTLE IS UNIQUELY POSED TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. THAT'S
JUST A PERSONAL OPINION.
>> SEEING A HAND FROM COUNCIL
PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR. TEACHER HAD
TO REMIND ME. FIRST OF ALL,
MICHAEL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SERVICE AND THEN ALSO YOU ARE
LEADERSHIP AS WELL IN YOUR
CREATIVITY. THE CHAIR HAD TO
REMIND ME THAT I WAS ON THE CUT,
THE SHOW THAT YOU FOUND IT OR
THE COMPANY THAT YOU FOUNDED AND
JUST THE TYPE OF, AND YOU HAD
SAID IT. JUST HOW THE FILM
INDUSTRY AND CONTENT AND ALL
THESE DIFFERENT THINGS ARE
SHIFTING. I THINK YOUR WORK
SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AND SUPER
HAPPY TO HAVE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON
THIS APPOINTMENT AND JUST
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WORK THAT
YOU BRING AS WELL. SO HAD A FUN
TIME ON YOUR SHOW AS WELL.
>> IN QUEUE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
HOLLINGSWORTH. IF ANYONE WANTS
TO WATCH SIBLING FEAR PONG IS A
FANTASTIC VIDEO BECAUSE THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT IS HILARIOUS
AND PERSONABLE. WE ALL KNOW
THIS. THIS REALLY SPEAKS TO
AGAIN, I HAVE WATCHED MANY CUT
VIDEOS OVER THE YEARS AND IT
CAN'T BE SAID ENOUGH, YOUR
LEADERSHIP HAS KIND OF INNOVATED
AND TRANSFORM WHAT WE THINK OF
IN TERMS OF ENTERTAINMENT. SO
I'M EXCITED TO SEE YOUR
EXPERTISE TO THE SEATTLE FILM
COMMISSION. SO MANY INDUSTRIES
ARE RAPIDLY EVOLVING. SO CURIOUS
TO SEE. I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW
TODAY AROUND VERTICAL DRAMA.
MAYBE I WILL GO GET SUCKED INTO
VERTICAL DRAMAS MYSELF. BUT
MAYBE AS A CLOSING QUESTION. WE
TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES JUST ON THE DURING
THE PRESENTATION. BUT WONDERING
FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE WITH THE
EXPERTISE THAT YOU BRING IF
THERE IS ANYTHING YOU WOULD ADD
TO THAT CHALLENGES FACING THE
INDUSTRY.
>> I THINK THE CHALLENGE WITH
THE MOST OBVIOUS CHALLENGE IS
THE FACT WE ARE LIVING IN
UNPRECEDENTED TIMES AND SO THE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT USED TO
EXIST FOR THE FILM INDUSTRY IS
JUST INCOMPLETE UPHEAVAL. WHAT
THAT BRINGS IS TREMENDOUS
OPPORTUNITY. EVEN THOUGH THERE
ISN'T THE TRADITIONAL ROUTES
ANYMORE, THE EASY WAYS FROM THE
GROUND FLOOR THAT YOU CAN WORK
YOUR WAY UP TO, THE COMPANIES
LIKE CUTS, THE INTENTION BEHIND
THAT WAS TO CREATE A NEW KIND OF
CENTER WHERE WE COULD BRING IN
PEOPLE FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT
BACKGROUNDS. TO I WOULD SAY THAT
THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES JUST THE
LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT I
THINK THAT WE ARE FORMING A NEW
ONE.
>> IN QUEUE FOR THAT. AND AGAIN,
REALLY EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD
AND FURTHER ENGAGE WITH THE FILM
COMMISSION ANY FINAL QUESTIONS
FOR OUR APPOINTEE OR THE FILM
COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT. I'M
GOING TO MOVE US FORWARD AND
TAKE US TO MOVING THIS
APPOINTMENT FORWARD. I MOVE THAT
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS
CONFIRMATION OF APPOINTMENT
3452. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> MOVED AND SECONDED TO
RECOMMEND THE CONFIRMATION OF
THE APPOINTMENT. ANY FINAL
COMMENTS BEFORE THE VOTE? WILL
THE CLERK THESE CALL THE ROLE ON
RECOMMENDATION TO CONFIRM THE
APPOINTMENT.
>> CHAIR RINCK. VICE PRESIDENT
FOSTER. COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT HOLLINGSWORTH.
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. THERE ARE
FIVE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
>> IN QUEUE QUICK. THE MOTION
CARRIES THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATION WILL BE SENT TO
THE MARCH 17th CITY COUNCIL
MEETING. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING
HERE THIS MORNING.
CONGRATULATIONS. AND WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND ITEM OF
BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE
READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD?
>> KING COUNTY REGIONAL
HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY AND
CONTINUUM OF CARE BRIEFING AND
DISCUSSION.
>> THANK YOU. AS MENTIONED
EARLIER DURING MY OPENING
REMARKS MY OFFICE HAS BEEN
TRACKING THE ISSUE RELATED TO
CONTINUUM OF CARE FUNDING SINCE
ABOUT LAST YEAR. I BELIEVE THIS
BODY WAS FIRST INTRODUCED TO THE
POTENTIAL FOR THREATS TO
CONTINUUM OF CARE FUNDING DURING
OUR APRIL SELECT COMMITTEE ON
FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION POLICY
CHANGES. AND SINCE THEN WE'VE
BEEN FOLLOWING CLOSELY. I KNOW
WE HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS
DURING THE BUDGET ABOUT THE
RELEASE AND WE TOOK BUDGET
ACTION THEN TO HOLD ASIDE SOME
FUNDS WELL WE SORTED OUT THE
SITUATION. WE FELT IT IMPORTANT
TO BRING KCRHA TO COMMITTEE
TODAY TO DAYLIGHT SOME OF THE
ONGOING ELEMENTS OF THIS AND
ALSO JUST AS A REFRESHER OF
CONTINUUM OF CARE AND HOW DOES
IT SERVE OUR REGION. I WILL BE
TURNING IT OVER TO OUR SPEAKER
FROM KCRHA TODAY. TAKE A MOMENT
TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF BY STATING
YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION FOR
THE RECORD. AND THEN START YOUR
PRESENTATION.
>> MY NAME IS JEFF SIMS, THE
CHIEF PROGRAM OFFICER AND I USE
HE HIM PRONOUNCE. IN QUEUE FOR
THE TIME TO PRESENT TODAY. I
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE
NOT HAVING ANY ISSUES SEEING THE
SLIDES THAT WE HAVE.
>> THUMBS UP. THANK YOU. I
WANTED TO START OFF TO YOUR
POINT COUNCILMEMBER RINCK TO
MAKE SURE I GET SOME BACKGROUND
ON WHAT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE
PROGRAM IS. YOU WILL HEAR ME SAY
CO SAY COC. WHAT YOU SEE ON
SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS THE TOTAL
AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE RECEIVE
THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. THIS IS
THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING
AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT PRINCIPAL
WAY OF PROVIDING FEDERAL FUNDS
TO LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO
RESPOND TO THE HOMELESSNESS
CRISIS IN OUR COUNTRY. THE KING
COUNTY OVERALL CONTINUUM OR COC
WE RECEIVE $65 MILLION FOR
AWARDS AND SERVICES. THERE IS A
SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN OUR TOTAL
AMOUNT. HUD ALSO GIVES EVERYBODY
SOME AMOUNT OF PLANNING FUND. 65
MILLION IS REALLY THE KEY NUMBER
THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON TODAY.
THERE'S THREE HIGHLIGHTED AT
THE TOP I WILL SPEND MORE TIME
ON THAT BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE
BREAKDOWN ON HOW WE UTILIZE
THOSE FUNDS. PERMANENT HOUSING
INTERVENTIONS. WE MAKE SURE A
HOUSEHOLD EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS AND THE PALACE.
ACTUALLY ENDING HOMELESSNESS.
THOSE ARE AT RISK BECAUSE POLICY
CHANGES AT THE U.S. DEPARTMENT
OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
ARE SEEKING TO UNDERTAKE. FOR
SOME BACKGROUND THE LAST
NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ALTHOUGH
EVERY CONTINUUM IN THE COUNTRY
HAD BEEN GIVEN A TWO-YEAR AWARD
DETERMINATION IN THE LAST
FUNDING COMPETITION THAT WE WENT
THROUGH HUD WAS PLANNING TO
INTERRUPT THAT I MAKING A NEW
FUNDING ANNOUNCEMENT. THAT WOULD
HAVE HEAVILY IMPACTED THOSE
ITEMS AT THE TOP. I CAN GO INTO
FURTHER DETAILS BUT I DON'T
WANT TO CONFUSE THE MATTER TODAY
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER FOR THE
QUESTIONS ON THAT. AND BECAUSE
OF VARIOUS LEGAL ACTIONS WHICH
IS WHAT I'M GOING TO SPEND MY
TIME ON THOSE ACTIONS THAT HUD
WANTED TO PURSUE WERE PAUSED.
BEFORE I GO INTO THE SPECIFIC
DETAILS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON
AND WHERE OUR CURRENT STATUS IS
TODAY I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WHY
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE
ESPECIALLY WHAT IS UNIQUELY IN
FRONT OF US IN THE NEXT FOUR
DAYS. WE ARE ANTICIPATING SOME
ACTION AT THE FEDERAL DISTRICT
COURT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
POTENTIAL THAT SOME AWARDS THAT
WOULD GET RENEWED BETWEEN JULY
AND DECEMBER OF THIS CALENDAR
YEAR. NOT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY
TO JUST AUTOMATICALLY RENEW AS
HAS BEEN OUR PLAN AND
EXPECTATION FOR MORE THAN A
YEAR. THAT HAS A LOT OF IMPACT
WHICH IS WHY WE ARE IN FRONT OF
THE COMMITTEE TODAY. THERE IS
MORE THAN 3000 HOUSEHOLDS THAT
WOULD HAVE THEIR HOUSING AT
RISK. OR WOULD BE AT RISK OF
HAVING THEIR SUPPORT THEY
RECEIVED LOST. THAT WOULD IMPACT
MAJOR PROVIDERS THROUGHOUT OUR
COMMUNITY. MANY OF THE OPERATE
NUMEROUS BUILDINGS, PERMANENT
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR OTHER
FACILITIES. AND THAT ON MAJOR
PROVIDERS UNDERSTATES THE
IMPACT. THERE'S BEEN HUNDREDS
OF MILLIONS OF CAPITAL FUNDING
AND TAX CREDIT FINANCING THAT
HAS USUALLY GONE INTO MANY OF
THOSE THINGS AND THERE IS TENS
OF MILLIONS MORE OF OTHER FUNDS
THAT GET WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDS
THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE
THAT ARE FURTHER WOVEN INTO
THESE PROJECTS TO MAKE THEM
WORK. THERE'S A LOT OF STAFFING
AND SERVICE IMPACT THAT PEOPLE
WOULD BE INTERRUPTED WITH. SOME
OF THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT IS
IMPACTED AND THERE IS BROADER
IMPLICATION. HOMELESSNESS IS
ONLY ONE OF THE SYMPTOMS THAT
THESE HOUSEHOLDS TEND TO
INTERACT WITH. CRIME, EDUCATION,
ALL OF THOSE SERVICE SYSTEMS AND
RESPONSES COULD BE IMPACTED IF
WE SAW MORE THAN 3000 HOUSEHOLDS
SUDDENLY LOSING THE
INTERVENTIONS THAT HAVE ALLOWED
THEM TO EXIT HOMELESSNESS. THAT
IS THE REASON WE ARE HERE TODAY.
LET'S GET INTO THE SPECIFIC
UPDATE. HUD SOUGHT TO MAKE
POLICY CHANGES AND IMPOSE THOSE
NEW POLICY CHANGES THROUGH A
FUNDING COMPETITION LAST
NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. THROUGH
LEGAL ACTION SPECIFICALLY BY THE
NATIONAL ALLIANCE TO END
HOMELESSNESS WHICH WAS PART OF
MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS THAT ALSO
FILED A LAWSUIT THERE WAS AN
INJUNCTION ISSUED BY A FEDERAL
DISTRICT COURT OUT OF RHODE
ISLAND AFFECTING THE ENTIRE
COUNTRY THAT FORCED HUD TO STOP
SAYING IT WOULD'VE CAUSED
IRREPARABLE HARM. WE ARE
EXPECTING THE FINAL JUDGMENT IN
THAT COURT CASE SOON IN THE
INTERIM WITH THAT INJUNCTION
PREVENTING HUD FROM PROCEEDING
HUD HAS SOUGHT AN APPEAL OF THAT
INJUNCTION. THE REASON THEY ARE
SEEKING THAT IS TOWARD THE
BOTTOM. SINCE THAT WAS ISSUED
CONGRESS APPROPRIATED FUNDS FOR
THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THEY LAID
OUT A STAGGERED TIMELINE THAT IF
AN ACTION TO AWARD NEW FUNDS
ISN'T COMPLETED BY X DATE SOME
OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE TO BY
STATUTE TO GET RENEWED. WE ARE
ALREADY FAR ENOUGH ALONG IN THE
TIMELINE THAT CONGRESS TOOK AND
IMPOSED INTO LAW TO MAKE SURE
THAT ANYTHING IN THE FIRST HALF
OF THIS YEAR FROM NOW THROUGH
JUNE IS AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO
RENEW. WHAT HUD SOUGHT TO APPEAL
WHICH IS WHAT THEY FILED THIS
LAST MONDAY, AFTER ASKING FOR IT
TO JUST BE LIFTED AND THE COURT
DENIED THAT. THEY APPEALED ON
MONDAY SAYING THAT IF THEY ARE
UNABLE TO PROCEED AND ASKING FOR
PERMISSION TO PROCEED BEFORE
APRIL 1st OF THIS YEAR. THAT'S
WHY THE NEXT TWO DAYS ARE REALLY
CRITICAL. UNDERTAKING THAT AWARD
THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON PAUSE.
THOUGH IT ONLY AFFECTS PROJECTS
THAT ARE RENEWING IN JULY
THROUGH DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
THAT'S A LOT OF FUNDING. I WANT
TO PAUSE AND MAKE SURE THERE'S
NOT ANY QUESTIONS PEOPLE HAVE
ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY THE
STATUS TODAY AND WHAT WE ARE
BEFORE I MOVE INTO SOME OF OUR
FURTHER FOCUS ESPECIALLY I CAN
TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE RISKS ON
THE NEXT SLIDE AND THEN FURTHER
THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO
DEFINITELY HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF
WHAT HAPPENS WITH LEGAL ACTIONS.
>> THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT
PAUSE. I KNOW THIS IS A COMPLEX
TOPIC. OUR SPEAKER TODAY IS
FORMER CENTRAL STAFF SO HE KNOWS
THE DEAL. VICE CHAIR FOSTER.
>> SHOUT OUT TO CENTRAL STAFF.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDES. I
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
CLEAR HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE LISTED
HERE. IS THAT WITHIN CITY OR THE
COUNTY?
>> THAT IS ACROSS THE ENTIRE
COUNTY. A LOT OF THEM ARE IN THE
CITY OF SEATTLE AND I DON'T
KNOW THE SPECIFIC BREAKDOWN. A
LOT OF THESE PROJECTS TRANSCEND
THOSE LINES SO WE HAVE THREE
VERY LARGE AWARDS THAT PROVIDE
PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BUT
IN SCATTERED SITES SO IN A
PRIVATE MARKET APARTMENT
SOMEWHERE RECEIVING SUPPORTIVE
SERVICES TO BE IN PERMANENT
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND
HOUSEHOLD CAN MOVE ALL OVER.
THAT IS JUST OUR THREE LARGEST
ONES. WE HAVE NUMEROUS
BRICK-AND-MORTAR FACILITIES THAT
ARE IMPACTED.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT
NUMBER THE 3247 REPRESENTS THE
INDIVIDUALS THAT MIGHT BE IN
PRIVATE MARKET BUILDINGS LIKE
YOU SAID AS WELL AS BUILDINGS
THAT ARE ALL PSH OWNED AND
OPERATED BY OUR PROVIDERS.
>> YEAH. AND ALSO GOING BACK TO
THAT EARLIER SIDE THERE IS RAPID
REHOUSING PROGRAMS AS WELL SO
THAT 3000 247 IS ALL OF THOSE
PROGRAM TYPES. IT IS THE FULL
LIST OF PROGRAM TYPES. ANYTHING
THAT RENEWS BETWEEN JULY AND
DECEMBER. ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF
PROGRAMS. MOST OF IT BECAUSE WE
HAVE INTENTIONALLY HUD IN ORDER
TO GET AWARDED DIRECTED US TO
PRIORITIZE. IT MOSTLY GOES TO
PSH. THAT IS A HUGE POLICY
SHIFT. IN ORDER TO GET THE FUNDS
WE NEEDED TO TAKE THE STEPS.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN
COMPETITIVE AS A COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU. IN QUEUE CHAIR.
>> GREAT QUESTION. IF WE CAN GO
BACK TO THE 2025. SLIDE THREE.
JUST TO REALLY HONE IN ON THIS
POINT. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT COC
BROADLY AS A WHOLE PROGRAM
GENERALLY COC COUNTYWIDE
SUPPORTS ABOUT 4500 HOUSEHOLDS
AND SO THIS SPECIFICALLY SPEAKS
TO THE FUNDING AT RISK IN THE
IMMEDIATE TERM. 3200 HOUSEHOLDS.
>> ONLY HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE WE
ARE EXPECTING A DECISION BY THE
APPEALS COURT
>> PROVIDING THE HELPFUL HISTORY
ABOUT WHERE WE'VE BEEN YOU
ALLUDED TO WHEN HUD ISSUED THE
2025 THEY ATTACHED A NUMBER OF
POLICY CHANGES TO THAT. CAN YOU
SPEAK TO WHAT KIND OF POLICY
CHANGES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT?
>> THE MOST PRONOUNCED IN TERMS
OF FUNDING IMPACT IS A CHANGE IN
THAT PRIORITY AROUND PERMANENT
HOUSING WHICH IS WHY I STARTED
OFF WITH THE SLIDE. SINCE 2012
WHENEVER THE GOVERNMENT PUT
TOGETHER THE PLAN TO END
HOMELESSNESS A PRIORITY FOR
THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS HAS BEEN
WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
DIRECTED AS THE PRIORITIES WE
NEEDED TO FOLLOW IF YOU WANTED
TO RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDING AND
BE COMPETITIVE. THE PRINCIPAL
CHANGE IS TO MOVE AWAY FROM
PERMANENT HOUSING INTERVENTIONS
WHICH HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED FOR
THE PAST MANY YEARS. AND THESE
ARE BRICK-AND-MORTAR STRUCTURES
WITH PEOPLE LIVING IN THEM AND
WANTED TO HAVE A PORTFOLIO THAT
WOULD BE DIVIDED. THEY TALKED
ABOUT A PORTFOLIO THAT IS ONE
THIRD SHELTER, ONE THIRD
PERMANENT HOUSING, 130
TRANSITIONAL HOUSING WHICH WOULD
SHIFT AROUND WHAT KIND OF UNITS
WE HAVE. HUD IS SEEKING TO
IMPOSE VARIOUS CAPS OR LIMITS ON
HOW MUCH WE CAN PUT INTO
PERMANENT HOUSING UNDERMINING
WHAT'S BEEN REQUIRED OF US
THROUGH FUNDING COMPETITION.
THAT IS NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER
TWO, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT
WE CAN RECEIVE. HISTORICALLY YOU
WOULD SEE 90 TO 97% OF THE MONEY
THAT YOU RECEIVED IN THE PRIOR
YEAR WOULD BASICALLY BE FOR
RENEWAL. INITIALLY WE WANTED TO
MAKE THAT 30% IN THAT CYCLE,
CONGRESS ACTIONS REQUIRE THEY
GET AT LEAST 60%. THAT IS STILL
A REDUCTION. SO THAT PUTS A LOT
OF PROJECTS AT RISK. I'M GOING
TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT LATER
AND GIVING A SENSE OF THE
MAGNITUDE. THERE IS ALSO
NUMEROUS OTHER POLICY CHANGES.
SOME OF THEM WE HAVE A SEPARATE
COURT CASE THAT IS PREVENTING US
FROM HAVING TO COMPLY WITH THOSE
NEW RESTRICTIONS. AROUND
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, CERTAIN
EXECUTIVE ORDERS, ACKNOWLEDGING
THAT THE COURTS LOOK AT AND SAID
YOU CANNOT IMPOSE IT IN THIS
WAY. WE ARE PART OF ONE OF
DOZENS OF JURISDICTIONS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY THAT ARE PART OF
THAT COURT CASE THAT HAS ANOTHER
INJUNCTION AND PREVENTING HUD
FROM IMPOSING CONDITIONS ON US.
IT'S UNCLEAR HOW THAT WOULD
PLAY OUT IN THOSE WOULD CONTINUE
INTO 2026 BUT IT'S UNCLEAR TO
US WHAT EXACTLY HUD WOULD
CONTINUE TO TRY TO INCLUDE AS WE
GET INTO THE SUMMER AND DO
FUTURE FUNDING COMPETITIONS BUT
A LOT OF THOSE ARE SPECIFIC.
>> IN QUEUE FOR BREAKING THAT
DOWN. THERE'S TWO SEPARATE
LAWSUITS GOING ON RELATED TO THE
VARIOUS POLICY CHANGES. DO WE
HAVE A SENSE OF TIMELINE FOR THE
OTHER LAWSUIT GOING ON RELATED
TO GENDER IDEOLOGY REQUIREMENTS
, IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT
COMPLIANCE AND SO ON.
>> THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY
UPDATES OR ACTIONS AND THAT
COURT CASE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS
NOW. THE LAST ACTION WAS IN
JUNE. PERHAPS THERE WAS A MORE
RECENT HEARING. BUT THERE
HASN'T BEEN ACTION THERE. I
THINK IT WAS JUST A MORE RECENT
HEARING.
>> BUT THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL
BEFORE US IS THE ONE WE WILL
FIND OUT ON MONDAY.
>> ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE
WE MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. I WILL
TURN IT BACK TO OUR PRESENTER.
THANK YOU I WANTED TO MAKE SURE
THE ACTIONS I WAS TALKING ABOUT
WERE CLEAR BUT WE ARE GOING TO
COME BACK. I'M GOING TO COME
BACK TO SOME OF THEM. SO WE ARE
ONLY TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS THAT
RENEW FROM JULY THROUGH
DECEMBER. BUT JUST FROM HOW IT
HAPPENS AND THE WAY THAT WHEN WE
WON AWARDS THAT IS A HUGE
AMOUNT. 52, ALMOST 53 MILLION
WORTH OF AWARDS AT RISK. THAT'S
A LOT OF MONEY OBVIOUSLY.
THERE'S A LOT OF IMPACT ON CORE
SERVICES ESPECIALLY HOUSING. WE
ARE DOING SOME PROACTIVE
PLANNING AROUND THIS, HOW WE CAN
SUPPORT AGENCIES AND TRANSITION
AND I WILL GET INTO THAT IN JUST
A LITTLE BIT. BECAUSE IT TIES
INTO ANOTHER STEP. SO MOVING
AWAY FROM WHAT IS AT HAND OVER
THE NEXT 10 DAYS, BY MARCH 10th.
INTO WHAT IS GOING TO DEFINITELY
HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF THE COURT
CASE. WHERE HUD SHOULD BE
RELEASING THE NEXT FUNDING
COMPETITION ROUND. WE ANTICIPATE
YOUR POINT CHAIR RINCK OUR
SEPARATE COURT CASE TO PROTECT
US FROM SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONS
BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE THINGS TO
STILL BE IMPOSED AS A COMMUNITY.
SO WE ARE EXPECTING THIS
COMPETITION TO A CORE OCCUR THIS
SUMMER. A LOT OF THE ACTIONS WE
PAUSED SO FAR IS BECAUSE HUD
BROKE ITS PROCESS. WE WERE GIVEN
A TWO-YEAR AWARD AND THEY WANTED
TO CHANGE THAT HALFWAY THROUGH.
IT CAUSES HARM WHEN YOU BREAK
THOSE KIND OF CYCLES. WHAT WE
ARE EXPECTING THINGS TO INCLUDE
IN THIS YEAR OR THE SUMMER ARE A
LOT OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED
ABOUT. SO THE PERMANENT HOUSING
CAPS, NOT GIVING US 90 TO 97% OF
OUR MONEY AS A RENEWAL BUT 60%.
MAYBE LESS. PUTTING ALL KINDS OF
MANDATES IN THEIR LIKE REQUIRING
SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND
PARTICIPATION IN SUPPORTIVE
SERVICES SO NOT MAKING THAT
VOLUNTARY. AND OTHER VARIOUS
CHANGES THAT ARE POLICY CHANGES.
SO THERE'S ALSO MULTIPLE
THRESHOLDS THAT CHANGE HOW THE
PROCESS WORKS THAT ARE KIND OF
ON OFF SWITCH IS SO TO SPEAK.
DID YOU PASS A THRESHOLD TO BE
QUALIFIED OR NOT. YES? OKAY YOU
CAN GO INTO THE FUNDING
COMPETITION OR NO, THAT'S NOT
GOING TO WORK. THIS IS THE LAST
SET OF BULLETS. TWO PREPARE
OURSELVES TO BE ABLE TO BE
COMPETITIVE. SO WE HAVE DONE
SOME MAPPING TO GET A SENSE OF
WHAT PROJECTS ARE A RISK. THE
TYPE OF PROJECTS THEY'RE GOING
TO WANT TO FIND, WE'VE DONE
MULTIPLE WORKSHOPS FOR EXAMPLE
TO HELP AGENCIES THAT MIGHT
OFFER TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OR
MIGHT OFFER SUPPORTIVE SERVICE
PROJECTS. AND THINK THROUGH WHAT
IS REQUIRED. WHAT ARE YOUR
FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS AND HOW DO
YOU HAVE TO STRUCTURE TO BE
COMPETITIVE ALONG THOSE LINES SO
THAT WHEN IT COMES AROUND WE ARE
STILL WELL-POSITIONED
REGARDLESS. WE'VE ALSO DONE
SOME THINGS LIKE MAKE SURE WE
HAVE SEATS ON OUR BOARD THAT
ENSURE THE REPRESENTATION THAT
HUD IS GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON.
PRIORITIES WE WOULD HAVE HAD
ANYWAY BUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE
THOSE FILLED AND SO WE ARE ABLE
TO RESPOND POSITIVELY. AND THEN
STRENGTHENING OUR COORDINATION
WITH OTHER PARTNERS ESPECIALLY
THIS TIME AROUND IN THE
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SPACES
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND
FOCUSING ON THAT. WE HAVE A FEW
NEW BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE
BRINGING FORMER KING COUNTY
SHERIFF, IT'S A REALLY EXCITING
ADDITION. SO THIS IS GOING TO GO
INTO A LITTLE BIT REGARDLESS OF
WHAT HAPPENS WE THINK THAT THE
BIGGEST THING THAT WILL OCCUR
THIS SUMMER IS AROUND THE MONEY
IMPACT. THIS IS A REALLY DENSE
SIDE. OUR TOTAL AWARD THAT JUST
REMIND YOU THAT RIGHT NOW WHAT
WE ARE GETTING A $65 MILLION TO
OPERATE PROJECTS, THAT IS OUR
TOTAL AWARD. BASED OFF OF WHAT
CONGRESS PASSED WE WOULD ONLY BE
GETTING A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN
40 MILLION. THAT'S A LOT OF
FUNDING THAT WE WOULD BE LOSING.
POTENTIALLY LOST IS $26 MILLION.
THAT WILL NOT BE AUTOMATICALLY
RENEWED. THIS IS IN
CONGRESSIONAL STATUTE. AND THEN
LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT WE ANTICIPATE. HUD HAS
SIGNALED IT IS LIKELY TO STILL
HAVE A LIMIT THAT YOU CAN'T
RENEW, YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN
30% OF THE MONEY GO TOWARD
RENEWING PROJECTS. THAT IS A
REALLY TECHNICAL STATEMENT.
BOTTOM LINE OF IT IS THAT HUD IS
GOING TO LIMIT HOW MANY OF OUR
PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECTS WHICH
IS ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WE
FUND. COULD BE REVIEWED. EVEN IF
THEY MAKE THE MONEY AVAILABLE WE
WILL GIVE YOU THE DOLLARS BUT
YOU CAN'T SPEND IT ON PERMANENT
HOUSING. SO POTENTIALLY $40
MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT
WOULD NOT BE COMPETITIVE IN WHAT
HUD LIKELY IS GOING TO IMPOSE ON
US. THEY JUST WOULDN'T BE
ELIGIBLE TO BE PUT FORWARD. THIS
IS KIND OF A RESTATEMENT OF WHAT
THOSE RISKS ARE. SO LOOKING AT
$40 MILLION ON THE PERMANENT
HOUSING SIDE. PROJECTS THAT WE
HAVE TREMENDOUS DOMINO EFFECT IN
THAT FUNDING. IF WE LOOK AT THE
AMOUNT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
HAVE A COMPETITIVE PROCESS
AROUND THAT WE MIGHT NOT GET
BACK AT ALL MUCH LESS BE ABLE TO
USE AS WE WANT IS 26 MILLION.
AND THEN THERE IS NUMEROUS
IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR BROADER
SYSTEM IF WE HAD THAT
DESTABILIZATION OCCUR. SO WITH
THAT I AM ALL DONE. THANK YOU
AND I DO APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHARE
THESE IMPACTS WITH YOU AND MAKE
SURE THIS IS FRONT OF MIND FOR
ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
COMMITTEE. IT IS OBVIOUSLY VERY
IMPORTANT AND EXISTENTIAL
QUESTIONS FACING OUR SYSTEM.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE
PRESENTATION TODAY JEFF. AND I
KNOW THROUGH JUST THIS POINT
THAT THERE IS THIS IS A COMBINED
EFFORT WITH SEATTLE AND KING
COUNTY. THIS IS WHY WE'VE BEEN
CONVENING. WE HAVE KING COUNTY
PARTNERS AT THE TABLE AND TRYING
TO SORT OUT THIS ISSUE AND I
KNOW WE'VE HAD ONGOING
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE MOVE
FORWARD TOGETHER BUT CERTAINLY
WANT TO ELEVATE THERE ARE SOME
MAJOR POLICY QUESTIONS IN FRONT
OF US AS IT RELATES TO THIS
FUNDING. AND HOW WE MOVE
FORWARD. I'M GOING TO OPEN IT
UP FOR QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL
HAVE ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION.
COUNCILMEMBER SAKA.
>> NO QUESTIONS. JUST WANT TO
THANK YOU MR. SIMS FOR BEING
HERE TODAY, PRESENTING A VERY
INSIGHTFUL AND RATHER
ELIMINATING PRESENTATION ON THIS
VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC. AND ALWAYS
FOUND YOU TO BE WHENEVER YOU
HAVE APPEARED BEFORE VARIOUS
COMMITTEES JUST ALWAYS VERY
KNOWLEDGEABLE AND HELPFUL
HELPING US SHED LIGHT ON
WHATEVER IT IS YOU ARE
PRESENTING ON ON BEHALF OF
KCRHA. AND THANK YOU FOR THE
UNDERLYING WORK YOU DO.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. WE
REALLY DEEPLY APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND AND
SETTING ASIDE FUNDS FOR A
CONTINGENCY RESERVE.
>> I KNOW THIS IS VERY DENSE
MATERIAL. THERE'S A LOT OF
ACRONYMS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
HUD, COC, I'M WONDERING, JEFF,
I KEEP CALLING YOU JEFF, I
APOLOGIZE FOR THE INFORMALITY IN
THAT. MR. SIMS. I AM WONDERING
IF YOU COULD WALK US HIGH-LEVEL
THROUGH WHAT WE CAN EXPECT
THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS
JUST A QUICK TIMELINE OVERVIEW
OF THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS FROM
KCRHA PERSPECTIVE.
>> THE MOST LIKELY THING WE NEED
TO PAY ATTENTION TO IS THE
FEDERAL APPEALS COURT DECISION
THAT WAS REQUESTED BY HUD ON
MARCH 9th OR BY MARCH 9th. THERE
IS A CHANCE FOR EXAMPLE THEY
COULD SAY YES WELL THE COURT
PROCEEDINGS MOVE FORWARD. AND WE
WILL TRY TO GO BACK AFTER THE
FACT AND SORT THAT OUT. SO
THAT'S REALLY THE NUMBER ONE
THING WE ARE WATCHING OVER THE
NEXT FEW DAYS. IF BY HUD'S OWN
STATEMENTS THEY NEED TO BE ABLE
TO PUT THIS FUNDING ANNOUNCEMENT
OUT BY APRIL 1st OR THEY ARE NOT
GOING TO MEET THAT TIMELINE AND
THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO JUST
ALLOW US TO RENEW OUR PROJECTS.
MARCH 10th IS OUR FIRST, APRIL
1st IS OUR NEXT. IF YOU HAVEN'T
SEEN THE FUNDING ANNOUNCEMENT BY
THAT POINT IT SEEMS LIKELY
THROUGH THE END OF THE CALENDAR
YEAR WE WOULD HAVE STABLE
FUNDING. SO THEN WE WOULD MOVE
TO THE SUMMER AND WHAT THEY PUT
OUT AT THAT TIME AND THAT WOULD
GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT ARE THE
POLICY ESPECIALLY THE FUNDING
POLICY SIDE IMPACTS OF WHAT HUD
IS GOING TO EXPECT AT THAT TIME.
AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADJUST
AS A COMMUNITY TO BE RESPONSIVE
TO THAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND HOW
IS KCRHA ENGAGING WITH PROVIDER
COMMUNITY ON THIS? HOW ARE YOU
ALL COMMUNICATING TO PROVIDERS
ABOUT THESE UPDATES, WHAT ARE
THE TABLES OR SPACES YOU ARE
TALKING THROUGH THESE TIMELINES?
I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COC
AS ONE VEHICLE. IT WOULD BE
HELPFUL TO KNOW IF THERE IS
PROVIDER REPRESENTATION THERE
AND CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT THE
PROVIDER COMMUNITY.
>> WE DO MEET RELATIVELY
RECURRING. LAST NOVEMBER AND
DECEMBER WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT
A FUNDING ANNOUNCEMENT WE MET
WITH OUR EXISTING. THIS IS HOW
WHAT WE HAVE CONTRACTED HAS
CHANGED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO
WE HAVE CONVENED SEVERAL
MEETINGS ALONG THOSE LINES TO
TRY TO TIME THEM TO BE MOST
RELEVANT FOR PROVIDERS. WE ARE
MOSTLY TRYING TO AND THIS IS
ALSO GOOD FOR MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WE ADVISE YOU GOING TO
KCRHA AND LOOKING AT OUR BLOG
BECAUSE THERE IS A TENSION DRAIN
IF YOU ARE CONTINUING TO EMAIL
OUT. IN ORDER TO NOT HAVE THAT
BUT ALSO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE
PAYING ATTENTION TO THE
HIGH-LEVEL ITEMS WE ARE FOCUSING
ON UPDATES REGARDING COURT CASES
IN THOSE SPACES. AND THEN AS
REALLY IMPORTANT MILESTONES
OCCUR YOU WOULD SEE IN THE
NEWSLETTERS SOME OF WHICH GO TO
CONTRACTED PROVIDERS. SOME GO TO
PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY THAT WANTS
THEM. THAT IS HOW WE SHARE THOSE
REALLY KEY UPDATES. SO THAT'S
BEEN OUR PRIMARY WAY OF MAKING
SURE ALL OF OUR AGENCIES ARE
ENGAGED AND INFORMED. I MADE
REFERENCE TO OTHER ACTIONS SO
THOSE MEETINGS ARE GOOD
DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK POINTS.
AND THEN IT'S REQUIRED AS PART
WE GO THROUGH VARIOUS STEPS EACH
TIME CONFIRMING WITH AGENCIES
THEY DO WANT TO RENEW.
ESPECIALLY WITH OTHER FEDERAL
PROJECTS. BUT GOING THROUGH
STEPS LIKE THAT AND THINGS LIKE
THE WORKSHOPS WE HAVE DEVELOPED
TO MAKE SURE THAT AGENCIES HAVE
A FIRM SERVICE DELIVERY THEY
WOULD HAVE TO AND MAKING SURE
THE INFORMATION IS THERE. AND
THEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK
QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND THINK
ABOUT HOW THEY MIGHT CHANGE HOW
THEY OPERATE THEIR PROJECTS.
>> I'M GOING TO TURN IT NEXT TO
VICE CHAIR FOSTER.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR
THE PRESENTATION. YOU TALKED
ABOUT SOME OF THESE KEY DATES
COMING UP WAITING FOR A RULING
FROM THE COURT ON THE INJUNCTION
AND THEN AS WELL THIS APRIL 1st
DEADLINE WHERE THE CONGRESSIONAL
INTERPLAY. SAY WE DON'T SEE A
NEW OUT ON APRIL 1st AND THAT
WOULD MEAN THEY NEED TO FOLLOW
THROUGH WITH THEIR COMMITMENT AS
THEY CURRENTLY EXIST. ALSO MY
UNDERSTANDING AND PLEASE CONFIRM
WITH ME IF I AM CORRECT. WE MAY
STILL EXPERIENCE A DELAY IN THE
DELIVERY OF THOSE DOLLARS IN
TERMS OF THEM BEING DELIVERED ON
TIME TO WHEN PROVIDERS MIGHT BE
EXPECTING THEM. SPEAK TO THAT
POTENTIAL LAG AND THE IMPACT
EVEN IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO.
>> EVERYTHING YOU STATED IS
CORRECT. THERE IS A POTENTIAL
THAT HUD COULD BECAUSE THEY HAVE
NOT PROCEEDED WITH AWARD RENEWAL
AND THAT IS THE CASE EVEN WITH
SOME IN THE FIRST QUARTER THAT
ACROSS THE COUNTRY AGENCIES
HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR RENEWAL
LETTER YET SO THERE IS THE
CHANCE YOU COULD SEE A DELAY IN
RECEIVING THAT. THERE IS FURTHER
POTENTIAL AND MAYBE THEY DON'T
STRIKE LANGUAGE THAT THERE IS
THAT SEPARATE COURT CASE. WE
WOULD BE INCURRING COSTS BUT NOT
ABLE TO GET FEDERAL
REIMBURSEMENT AND THAT IS
ESPECIALLY BECOMES A SUBSTANTIAL
ISSUE BECAUSE OUR INTENTION IS
TO CONTINUE TO BE PAYING OUT THE
FUNDS TO PROVIDERS ALLOWING THEM
TO INVOICE US BUT THEN WE START
RUNNING IN THE RED. WE HAVE TO
PAY INTEREST ON THAT. SO THEN
DEPENDING ON HOW LONG WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT IT COULD START
ADDING UP INTO THE MILLIONS AT A
TIME WITH SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST
ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND THAT CUTS
INTO OUR ABILITY TO OPERATE AT
THAT POINT.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU UPLIFTING
THAT. THAT IS MAYBE THE MORE
ROSY SCENARIO WE WOULD BE IN IF
WE WERE STILL RECEIVING THOSE
DOLLARS AND EVEN IN THAT CASE
KCRHA COULD END UP HAVING
ADDITIONAL COSTS AND CITY OF
SEATTLE IS THE LARGEST INVESTOR
IN KCRHA AND SO AS WE LOOK AHEAD
ANOTHER COLLEAGUE OF MINE IS
SAYING IT'S ALWAYS BUDGET AND
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
AWARE OF THOSE POTENTIAL IMPACTS
AND WE ARE TRACKING THOSE.
>> IN QUEUE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
AND JUST TO CONNECT THE DOTS
BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT WITH
THE CONDITIONAL POLICY AROUND
MOVING UP TO 60% GOING TOWARD
PERMANENT HOUSING FOR THE YEAR
THAT IS FROM THE HUD BILL.
>> I WILL JUST SAY THAT THERE IS
MULTIPLE 12 TYPICALLY
CONGRESSIONAL APPROPRIATION
BILLS AND THEY DEAL WITH
CLUSTERS OF DEPARTMENTS SO THIS
WOULD BE TRANSPORTATION HOUSING
AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. T HUD FOR
SHORT. IT IS ALREADY ENACTED AS
LAW. PART OF WE SHOULD GIVE SOME
CREDIT TO OUR SENATOR WHO WAS ON
THE COMMITTEE FOR SOME OF THE
LANGUAGE AND SHEPHERDING THAT
THROUGH THE PROCESS.
>> THANK YOU FOR LIFTING UP THE
AMAZING WORK OUR SENATOR. I KNOW
OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN IN
CONVERSATION WITH THEIR OFFICE
AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF OTHER
REGIONAL LEADERS. SENATE MURRAY
TOOK UP THE MANTLE OF FIGHTING
FOR FUNDING AND HAS BEEN LEADING
THE NATION TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
PROTECTING THESE DOLLARS AND
KEEPING FOLKS HOUSED SO I JUST
WANT TO LIFT UP HER INCREDIBLE
WORK AND I KNOW THE LEADERSHIP
THAT THIS BODY HAS TAKEN TO TRY
TO SET FUNDING ASIDE TO MAKE
SURE AS WE ARE NAVIGATING THIS
VERY UNCERTAIN TIME HAS HELPED
GIVE HER SOME OF THAT FIGHT I
WANT TO COMMEND AGAIN THE WORK
OF THIS COUNCIL AND WE ARE
NAVIGATING A REALLY UNCERTAIN
SCENARIO WITH WHAT IS HOPEFULLY
BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR VERY
IMPORTANT FUNDING WHEN IT COMES
TO KEEPING FOLKS HOUSED. ARE
THERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON
THIS TOPIC? I'M NOT SEEING ANY
HANDS. AND SO I WILL KIND OF
WRAP US UP TO SAY WE CLEARLY
HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE NEED
TO START WORKING ON ANSWERS TO.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE A PART
OF THIS BODY. I KNOW WE HAVE
BEEN CONVENING THIS IN A NUMBER
OF CITY AND COUNTY DEPARTMENTS.
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNING
COMMITTEE AND HAVING THE
PARTICIPATION OF COUNCIL OFFICES
HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL. WE
WANTED TO USE IT SOMETIME TODAY
TO DAYLIGHT THIS ISSUE AND BE
ABLE TO HAVE THIS DIALOGUE IN
PUBLIC AND LIFT UP WHERE WE ARE
IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS. SO I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
PARTICIPATING NOT JUST TODAY BUT
THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS TRYING TO
KEEP EVERYBODY TOGETHER ON WHAT
IS HAPPENING AND HOW WE NAVIGATE
A PATH FORWARD. I HOPE IT'S
CLEAR THERE'S MORE TO COME AS
WE EAGERLY AWAIT THE COURT
DECISION NEXT WEEK. AND START
CRAFTING A PATH FORWARD. IF
THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL COMMENT
OR QUESTIONS, I AM GOING TO WRAP
US THEN AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE MR. SIMS. COLLEAGUES,
WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF
TODAY'S AGENDA. IS THERE
ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE
ORDER? ALL RIGHT. NOBODY WANTS
TO SHARE THEIR WEEKEND PLANS.
GOT IT. WITH THAT, I WILL SAY
THAT HEARING NO FURTHER
BUSINESS, WE ARE ADJOURNED. IT
IS 10:33 A.M. THANK YOU
EVERYONE. HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
>> IN QUEUE. THANK YOU JEFF.